| tormod | thanks a lot | 00:06 |
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| rtg | tormod: it'll probably take a 3-4 days to show up in the archive. | 00:09 |
| rtg | off to a mardi gras party. | 00:09 |
| tormod | was just back from Carneval here :) | 00:10 |
| rtg | I saw pictures of that in Brazil. Looks like fun. gotta go. | 00:11 |
| tormod | 'night | 00:22 |
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| kraut | moin | 08:26 |
| abogani | Morning all | 08:53 |
| abogani | amitk: No way last -rt kernel flavour on amd64 with nvidia-glx-new driver didn't works. | 08:56 |
| amitk | abogani: so reinstalling the driver doesn't help? | 08:56 |
| abogani | amitk: "apt-get remove --purge nvidia-glx-new", reinstall and reboot don't help | 08:57 |
| amitk | did you try the hardy live cd? | 08:59 |
| abogani | amitk: 2.6.22-14.51 no, 22-14.47 works after depmod -a, before of the 22-14.47 works fine | 08:59 |
| abogani | amitk: In your opinion where should i look? | 09:00 |
| amitk | abogani: have you tried the hardy live cd? | 09:01 |
| abogani | amitk: Yes it works but it is -generic or i can select -rt on boot menu? :-) | 09:02 |
| amitk | abogani: -rt is not on the live cd. You will have to install the -rt kernel separately | 09:02 |
| abogani | so i should install Hardy, right? | 09:03 |
| amitk | tjaalton: might have some more ideas | 09:03 |
| tjaalton | abogani: what was the original problem? | 09:06 |
| abogani | I can't explain to myself why, with the same hw, on 32bit works great and on 64bit is broken :-( | 09:06 |
| abogani | tjaalton: After last (security) update of the kernel X don't want start at boot with nvidia X driver on 64bit (32bit works fine).... | 09:06 |
| tjaalton | abogani: does it work if you disable usplash (nousplash on the kernel cmdline) | 09:06 |
| abogani | tjaalton: Kernel loading all things without warning or error. lsmod nvidia return Ok. | 09:07 |
| abogani | X tell me this: (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module! Please ensure | 09:08 |
| abogani | (EE) NVIDIA(0): that there is a supported NVIDIA GPU in this system, and | 09:08 |
| tjaalton | abogani: please put the full log somewhere | 09:08 |
| tjaalton | also the part from dmesg where it loaded ok | 09:09 |
| abogani | tjaalton: Ok | 09:11 |
| abogani | tjaalton: I have removed all -rt packages (linux-image-*-rt, linux-ubuntu-*-rt, linux-restricted-*-rt) and i have reinstalled the same and it works! | 10:37 |
| tjaalton | abogani: good to hear :) | 10:38 |
| laga | tjaalton: any change #144322 will be fixed? (a bit off-topic in here, but since i just saw you here..) | 10:41 |
| laga | s/change/chance/ | 10:41 |
| tjaalton | bug 144322 | 10:41 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 144322 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "interlacing broken in gutsy on radeon/ati open source driver" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144322 | 10:41 |
| tjaalton | laga: try the package from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XorgOnTheEdge | 10:42 |
| laga | tjaalton: for the ati driver? | 10:43 |
| tjaalton | yes | 10:43 |
| laga | tjaalton: i compiled it manually from git and it didn't work a few weeks ago. of course, i'll try the package but i doubt it'll be fixed. | 10:44 |
| tjaalton | laga: then your best bet is to post your results on the upstream bug :) | 10:45 |
| laga | tjaalton: ah. which translates to "it'll never be fixed" because upstream is somewhat unresponsive | 10:48 |
| tjaalton | laga: alex happens to work for AMD/ATI now | 10:48 |
| tjaalton | so maybe it's not high priority, but will be fixed | 10:49 |
| laga | well, i figured it wouldn't be fixed because he's too busy working for them right now :) | 10:49 |
| laga | there's a workaround so i'll be OK, though | 10:49 |
| amitk | abogani: that is weird. We don't want to become windows, so it would be good to know what happened... ;-) | 11:00 |
| ogra | thegodfather, dropping rpc sevices didnt help with bug 189224 ... i fear its actually the unlock thats broken for me (bug updated) | 11:01 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 189224 in linux "sunrpc causes kernel oopses on 2.6.24-5-generic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189224 | 11:01 |
| abogani | amitk: sounds reasonable :-) | 11:07 |
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| Kano | hi rtg ,did you see that alsa 1.0.16 final is out now? | 16:11 |
| rtg | Kano: nope, but I'll pick it up in the next couple of days. | 16:11 |
| Kano | i guess not much changed | 16:11 |
| Kano | it was out today | 16:12 |
| tll | Hi, it's there a rt2x00/rt73usb module backport for the gutsy 2.6.22 kernel through the module-assistant? | 16:43 |
| rtg | tll: not to my knowledge. furthermore, its gonna be quite difficult because of changes in the mac80211 API. | 16:44 |
| tll | rtg, thanks for answering - I know I'm a bit OT here. So make-kpkg is the only way out? I fear this will break the network-manager et al. stuff. | 16:53 |
| rtg | tll: I have not used make-kpg in awhile. It stopped working for me during Gutsy. | 16:54 |
| tll | rtg, I just got lazy and stopped using kpg and debian. I hate that the kernel/userlevel interdependency breaks things - so I switch to ubuntu and hope for faster release cycles. :) So here it caught me again. And I was buying ralink for the gnu-feeling ;( | 16:58 |
| rtg | tll: if you can get me open sources for the ralink drivers, I could put them in l-u-m. | 17:01 |
| rtg | assuming, of course, that they work with 2.6.24 and have no license restrictions. | 17:02 |
| tll | rtg, here: http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/rt2x00-cvs-daily.tar.gz, they should work with 2.6.24-rc1 and have no license restrictions, AFAIK, they are the only ones. | 17:04 |
| rtg | tll: the rtl series are already in the kernel: rtl8187_rtl8225.c and rt2x00/ | 17:05 |
| tll | rtg, yepp I know, so it's dist-upgrading to hardy then? | 17:11 |
| Kano | rtg: as far as i know has rt73 problems with networkmanager | 17:12 |
| rtg | tll: boot the live CD first. The wireless stuff ought to work (or not as the case may be) | 17:12 |
| rtg | I've read that some folks are having better luck with wicd. | 17:13 |
| tll | rtg, thanks good idea. I will check the cd and wicd, nm is often painful. | 17:14 |
| tll | Kano, yes and rt73usb is really broken with gutsy and my card. I will try rt73 and wicd, maybe they'll like each other. | 17:19 |
| tll | http://wicd.sourceforge.net/wiki/doku.php?id=testing sounds like a hit, thanks. I will try now. | 17:23 |
| Kano | with rt2500 others have got not problems, just rt73 seems stupid... | 17:23 |
| Kano | rtg: wicd seesm to be a bit stupid, it shows WEP for WPA wlans.. | 17:27 |
| rtg | Kano: I didn't think WEP was possible for WPA. Perhaps its just a mis-type. | 17:29 |
| Kano | it detects it false | 17:30 |
| ogra | Kano, i dont have any problems here with the recent hardy kernel and the NM 0.7 packages from asac's ppa | 17:45 |
| ogra | (rt73) | 17:45 |
| Kano | well i use hostap to test | 17:45 |
| ogra | working fine with WEP here at home as well as with th WPA in our main office ... | 17:45 |
| ogra | i didnt try unencrypted though | 17:45 |
| ogra | that was the only mode that worked reliable in gutsy | 17:46 |
| Kano | i never use wep, thats totally unsecure.. well forcing to use wpa1 worked however with that wicd | 17:57 |
| maks_ | Kano is to lame to have an open network :) | 18:00 |
| asac | Kano: nm 0.7? | 18:02 |
| Kano | asac: 0.6.5 | 18:02 |
| Kano | using that with hostap results in system crash after a few transfered bytes.. | 18:02 |
| asac | Kano: please try nm 0.7 from my ppa | 18:03 |
| asac | Kano: do you use wext with wincd? | 18:03 |
| asac | wicd? | 18:03 |
| Kano | sure | 18:04 |
| asac | then try nm 0.7 | 18:04 |
| Kano | but that wicd is not really stable | 18:04 |
| asac | how? | 18:04 |
| Kano | usually i write my network/interfaces manually | 18:04 |
| Kano | with that specific card | 18:04 |
| asac | but still using wext for supplicant? | 18:05 |
| asac | Kano: try https://edge.launchpad.net/~asac/+archive 0.7 in hardy please | 18:06 |
| asac | and let me know. thanks | 18:06 |
| Kano | asac: i use etch + my own backports | 18:06 |
| asac | etch? why would this channel of any help then? | 18:07 |
| Kano | asac: i use the ubuntu kernel - just a bit modified | 18:07 |
| Kano | anything against reusing the kernel? | 18:08 |
| asac | its your system :) | 18:08 |
| Kano | btw. there is no network-manager-kde in your archive | 18:12 |
| asac | that doesn't exist for 0.7 yet | 18:13 |
| Kano | well i need the kde interface | 18:14 |
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| torkel | asac: will nm 0.7 be included in hardy or is it too late already? | 19:04 |
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| smb | mjg59: ping | 20:52 |
| mjg59 | Hi | 21:00 |
| smb | Hi Matthew, I was told you would be a good contact regarding my current question of which hdaps driver might be more preferrable for ubuntu hardy. The one in the kernel or rather the one from tp-smapi (includeing the other stuff). For edgy you got tp-smapi into the kernel. But somehow stuff got dropped after that. | 21:04 |
| mjg59 | The smapi one is probably more useful in the long run | 21:04 |
| asac | torkel: most likely hardy+1 (unless upstream goes final soon, which is unlikely imo) | 21:06 |
| smb | It looked more recent and more powerful to me. I was wondering why nothing went into the mainline kernel. It was mentioned that this is rather due to some procedural reasons. Do you know a bit more of that history behind that? | 21:06 |
| rtg | mdomsch: do you know anything about USB keyboards not working on recent syslinux? Specifically on Dimension E520 and 9200. This is a change in behavior from Feisty to Gutsy. | 21:19 |
| amitk | mjg59: is there some question as to the provenance of the tp_smapi code? | 21:34 |
| mjg59 | amitk: No, I think all those got answered | 21:35 |
| amitk | smb: ^^^ | 21:37 |
| smb | amitk: mjg59: Hm, still the statement from Shen Multinymous was: mainline inclusion will not happen any soon. | 21:38 |
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| TheMuso | c | 23:21 |
| TheMuso | ugh wrong tab | 23:21 |
| mdomsch | rtg, nothing here | 23:30 |
| mdomsch | hmm, though sounds somewhat familiar | 23:30 |
| mdomsch | ping hpa | 23:30 |
| mdomsch | rtg, there was something either in syslinux or early boot that hpa had messed up briefly, but thought he had fixed | 23:32 |
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