| goppp | hey any use ubuntu, and gotten dual monitor to work | 00:05 |
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| zoredache | !dualhead | 00:07 |
| ubotu | Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama | 00:07 |
| goppp | I tryed that | 00:07 |
| zoredache | and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174 | 00:08 |
| zoredache | yeah, I don't know much beyond the basics... | 00:08 |
| zoredache | those guides seemed pretty complete | 00:09 |
| goppp | k | 00:09 |
| DirtySanchez | i downloaded xubuntu desktop.. the problem is, it takes me hours to load everything, i just want to install it right away.. is there some way to do this in the menu? | 00:16 |
| zoredache | what do you mean in the menu? | 00:17 |
| DirtySanchez | when i put the cd in my drive, and reboot my shitty windows to start from the CD ROM | 00:17 |
| DirtySanchez | then i press F2 and "C" to start from the CD | 00:18 |
| DirtySanchez | then a menu shows up.. to install xubuntu | 00:18 |
| zoredache | you probably should look at downloading and installing from the 'alternate disk' if you are having performance issues from the livecd | 00:19 |
| DirtySanchez | 'alternate disk' it will just install it right away? | 00:20 |
| zoredache | no, not right away, | 00:20 |
| zoredache | your computer still needs to be partitioned, formated, and have files copyied on to it | 00:20 |
| zoredache | the installation will be faster though | 00:21 |
| DirtySanchez | yes, that's what i mean.. if 'alternate disk' is just for installing | 00:21 |
| zoredache | Well you can also boot to a rescue mode command line. But it is generally for installation only | 00:22 |
| zoredache | no gui, or anything else fancy | 00:22 |
| DirtySanchez | what i understood from livecd what it does, is loads up the system so you get an idea of what is all about, and that takes hours for me | 00:22 |
| zoredache | well that is an advantage of the livecd... but the livecd doesn't work well if you a)don't have lots of ram, b) don't have a fast optical drive) | 00:23 |
| DirtySanchez | yes | 00:23 |
| DirtySanchez | my ram sucks, my drive too | 00:23 |
| DirtySanchez | i will download the alternate cd. thanks for your help | 00:26 |
| DirtySanchez | cya around | 00:26 |
| zoredache | is there a command line tool that will give the entire path to a file, when given a relative path? | 00:51 |
| nam3d | locate? | 00:51 |
| zoredache | locate searches through a database that is rarely updated. I need to get the full path for something that will be recently created | 00:53 |
| jgamio | somebody can help to use compiz | 01:16 |
| nam3d | if I run a command, how do i make the output appear in an text file? | 01:28 |
| zoredache | usually you just use the redirection operator | 01:28 |
| zoredache | so --- echo "hello world" > textfile.txt | 01:29 |
| zoredache | or ifconfig > textfile.txt | 01:29 |
| zoredache | if you want to append use >> | 01:29 |
| nam3d | what do you mean with append? | 01:29 |
| zoredache | your output is added to the file instead of replacing the file | 01:30 |
| nam3d | okay | 01:30 |
| zoredache | see http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-3.html for tons of detail about redirection and piping | 01:30 |
| mindframe_ | anyone know of a good guide to get compiz running in xubuntu? | 02:17 |
| voltage | not familiar with that app mindframe_ | 02:20 |
| venz | Question: Is the xfce4 package already a window & desktop manger? | 02:40 |
| TangentBuntu | hey | 03:46 |
| TangentBuntu | I'm trying to start x | 03:46 |
| TangentBuntu | /root/.xinitrc: line 1: xfce-session: command not found | 03:46 |
| neur1 | hello i'm trying to conf my sound and alsaconf doesn't work , what's the correct command? | 07:13 |
| neur1 | what's the command to conf alsa? , tried alsaconf didn't work | 07:22 |
| ere4si | neurl: I found alsa.conf in /usr/share so... - sudo /usr/share/alsa.conf | 07:32 |
| TheSheep | ere4si: that won't work | 07:34 |
| ere4si | sorry neurl - /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf - but it says for me command not found, but locate just found it | 07:34 |
| TheSheep | neur1: you don't need to configure alsa | 07:34 |
| TheSheep | neur1: it should work with the default configuration | 07:34 |
| ere4si | neurl: try alsamixer and see if that is what you need - command = alsamixer | 07:36 |
| neur1 | k | 07:37 |
| emdash | anyone know /win 2 | 07:37 |
| emdash | gar | 07:37 |
| TheSheep | emdash: excuse me? | 07:37 |
| ere4si | neurl: the wiki for alsamixer commands - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alsamixer | 07:39 |
| emdash | TheSheep: typo | 07:39 |
| emdash | rather, forgot to clear th input buffer before typing irc commands | 07:39 |
| TheSheep | emdash: alt+2 is faster ;) | 07:40 |
| neur1 | thanks | 07:40 |
| ere4si | k | 07:40 |
| emdash | TheSheep: i always forget the key bindings | 07:42 |
| ere4si | been trying to fix this for ages - I vnc into my headless xubuntu server and open thunar and it shuts straight away, I open it again and it stays open - there's nothing in any log on any comp - how can I resolve this? | 07:48 |
| TheSheep | ere4si: can you try opening it in a terminal and see if it shows any messages? | 07:50 |
| ere4si | TheSheep, shows no messages | 07:52 |
| TheSheep | ere4si: even the first time when it crashes? | 07:54 |
| ere4si | tried that ages ago and many times since - never a message or log entry or even a beep... | 07:54 |
| TheSheep | then try strace | 07:55 |
| ere4si | k | 07:55 |
| TheSheep | strace thunar | 07:56 |
| TheSheep | should give you plenty of information | 07:56 |
| ere4si | read(6, 0x80e6718, 2048) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) - third last line, TheSheep | 07:58 |
| ere4si | exit_group(0) = ? | 07:58 |
| ere4si | Process 7325 detached - last two lines | 07:58 |
| ere4si | ? | 07:58 |
| ere4si | these were printed after the dir was diplayed | 07:59 |
| ere4si | TheSheep, thanks for the heads up on strace - I'll need to do some reading to find out the results :) | 08:01 |
| TheSheep | ere4si: you need strace -f to follow forks | 08:05 |
| ere4si | thnks TheSheep will explore that | 08:19 |
| ere4si | lots to read! | 08:19 |
| neur1 | thanks again | 08:24 |
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| goppp | !dualhead | 11:43 |
| ubotu | Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama | 11:43 |
| goppp | !Xinerama | 11:43 |
| ubotu | xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead | 11:43 |
| === web_know1 is now known as web_knows | ||
| Epicenter | Hello :) If I want to use the XFree86 X server instead of Xorg, how do I do it? I know how to install the xfree86 server but how do I pick which one runs? thanks. | 13:20 |
| ablomen | Epicenter, why do you want to do that? | 13:22 |
| Epicenter | I've read about someone who got XFree86 working well on my laptop with the siliconmotion driver. When I run Xorg, with the same driver, the server uses 50-100% of the CPU all the time. it's uselessly slow | 13:22 |
| Epicenter | So low the mouse cursor jerks around and only updates once a second or two. | 13:22 |
| Epicenter | *so slow | 13:22 |
| Epicenter | I think Xorg tries to use hardware acceleration, and the Lynx3DM+ chipset seems to be SLOWER than software graphics. It is in windows. | 13:23 |
| ablomen | hmm but at least in gutsy the xserver-xfree86 package is just a transitional package (it just installs xorg when your upgrading from a very old *buntu) | 13:24 |
| Epicenter | ablomen: Ugh... any recommendations then? | 13:25 |
| ablomen | Epicenter, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion/+bug/136853/comments/6 | 13:26 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 136853 in xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion "[Gutsy] multiple regressions since Feisty" [High,Confirmed] | 13:26 |
| Epicenter | Uh-oh. | 13:27 |
| ablomen | so maybe the color depth thing works | 13:27 |
| Epicenter | I have both this guy's problems | 13:27 |
| Epicenter | the blanking screen and no virtual consoles working | 13:27 |
| Epicenter | they are all black screens | 13:27 |
| ablomen | well he claims it fixes it :) | 13:29 |
| Epicenter | So 24bpp is impossible then huh? | 13:29 |
| Epicenter | oh well. I'll live. | 13:29 |
| Epicenter | giving this a try... | 13:30 |
| Epicenter | How did you find this bug repoert? | 13:30 |
| Epicenter | *report | 13:30 |
| ablomen | google ;) | 13:32 |
| ablomen | "siliconmotion ubuntu" | 13:32 |
| Epicenter | Curses! | 13:32 |
| Epicenter | So simple. :) | 13:32 |
| Epicenter | come to think of it the colors sure go screwy a lot too | 13:33 |
| Epicenter | especially when gdm comes up | 13:34 |
| ablomen | after the fix? | 13:34 |
| Epicenter | trying to do the fix now | 13:35 |
| Epicenter | X is so slow it's hard to type | 13:35 |
| ablomen | ah ok :) | 13:35 |
| Epicenter | Is Modprobe permanent? | 13:36 |
| Epicenter | or do I need to do it every time I power cycle the machine | 13:36 |
| TheSheep | Epicenter: every time | 13:37 |
| ablomen | you can add it too /etc/modules | 13:37 |
| TheSheep | Epicenter: you can add that module to /etc/modules | 13:37 |
| Epicenter | X is down to a much more manageable <1% :) | 13:39 |
| Epicenter | and ... v.consoles work :D | 13:39 |
| Epicenter | thanks! | 13:39 |
| Epicenter | if I'm running Xubuntu but I want to install the Gnome desktop environment how would I do it? | 13:55 |
| ablomen | sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop | 13:58 |
| Epicenter | Thanks :) | 13:58 |
| TheSheep | Epicenter: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop if you want complete ubuntu | 13:58 |
| Epicenter | I hope it doesn't need too much space. / is 6gb | 13:59 |
| TheSheep | Epicenter: I'm afraid there is no single package to install if you only want gnome alone | 13:59 |
| Epicenter | How much extra crap comes with gnome? | 14:00 |
| Epicenter | What's the difference between Xubuntu-desktop and Ubuntu-desktop? | 14:02 |
| Epicenter | They both add gnome I assume | 14:02 |
| TheSheep | Epicenter: mostly xfce instead of gnome, plus some other default applications, like abiword and gnumerica instead of openoffice | 14:03 |
| TheSheep | Epicenter: no, xubuntu comes with xfce | 14:03 |
| Epicenter | ahh | 14:04 |
| Epicenter | I assume I can remove whatever I don't want later and not enter dependency hell? | 14:04 |
| TheSheep | Epicenter: yes | 14:04 |
| Epicenter | Sweet. | 14:05 |
| TheSheep | Epicenter: well, trying to remove some packages will ask you to remove half of your system, obviously | 14:05 |
| TheSheep | Epicenter: but you get to confirm it | 14:05 |
| Epicenter | Goody. | 14:05 |
| Epicenter | I hope Gnome isn't too slow. I don't like XFCE much, but this isn't too snappy a system | 14:06 |
| Epicenter | Doesn't even show icons for mounted disks on the dekstop. That's TOO minimalistic | 14:06 |
| Epicenter | if I wanted that minimalist I'd use a terminal... | 14:06 |
| TheSheep | Epicenter: it does it | 14:06 |
| Epicenter | ? | 14:06 |
| TheSheep | Epicenter: it shows icons on the desktop | 14:06 |
| Epicenter | mine doesn't :( | 14:07 |
| TheSheep | Epicenter: make sure you have it enabled in settings->desktop settings | 14:07 |
| TheSheep | Epicenter: but it's enabled by default | 14:07 |
| Epicenter | I guess not on mine. ( | 14:08 |
| Epicenter | :( | 14:08 |
| ablomen | Epicenter, the only thing gnome has over xfce that is "significant" is gnomeVFS, so you have to mount your network shares by hand | 14:08 |
| ablomen | the rest is all there | 14:08 |
| Epicenter | Is it a lot slower? | 14:08 |
| ablomen | what? gnome? | 14:09 |
| Epicenter | Yep. | 14:09 |
| ablomen | yeah it is | 14:09 |
| Epicenter | XFCE is pretty sluggish already | 14:09 |
| ablomen | i even notice the difference on my main system (which has good specs) | 14:10 |
| Epicenter | I don't see any Settings->Desktop settings | 14:10 |
| Epicenter | I have a preferences menu but there's neither in there. | 14:10 |
| ablomen | Epicenter, open the settings manager => desktop settings => behavior tab =>Desktop icons | 14:12 |
| ablomen | and set that to file/launcher icons | 14:12 |
| ablomen | then you can check home, file system, removable devices etc | 14:12 |
| Epicenter | I definitely don't see a Settings Manager. | 14:13 |
| ablomen | thats menu (with the mouse in the blue ubuntu logo), settings, settings manager | 14:13 |
| Epicenter | None of that, either. | 14:14 |
| Epicenter | No blue logos anywhere | 14:14 |
| Epicenter | Applications, Places, System, Firefox/Mail/help icons, a few applets displaying time, date, battery info, shutdown button. | 14:15 |
| Epicenter | taskbar at the bottom. that's it | 14:15 |
| ablomen | huh.. your desktop doesnt look like this?.. http://www.xubuntu.org/files/thunar.png | 14:16 |
| Epicenter | The ubuntu logo is red and orange, not blue. No settings menu in there | 14:17 |
| Epicenter | Accessories, Games, Graphics, Intenret, Office, Sound&Video, Add/remove. | 14:17 |
| ablomen | then your using gnome... | 14:17 |
| Epicenter | the desktop wallpaper is also different | 14:17 |
| Epicenter | this sure doesn't look like gnome to me :P | 14:17 |
| ablomen | could you put a screenshot up somewhere? | 14:18 |
| Epicenter | I'll give it a shot | 14:18 |
| TheSheep | Epicenter: that's gnome | 14:18 |
| TheSheep | Epicenter: that's ubuntu, not xubuntu | 14:19 |
| Epicenter | weird | 14:19 |
| Epicenter | since I installed from a xubuntu disc | 14:20 |
| TheSheep | Epicenter: magic :) | 14:20 |
| Epicenter | blah... | 14:20 |
| Epicenter | alright, once these 5 billion updates finish I'll install xubuntu-desktop then I guess | 14:21 |
| TheSheep | and then you can choose xfce form the sessions menu at login | 14:21 |
| Epicenter | right | 14:22 |
| Epicenter | jesus, what is the update manager DOING in there that is taking so long, compiling a new kernel? | 14:23 |
| Epicenter | It's been on linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic for 20 minutes | 14:24 |
| TheSheep | Epicenter: it's compiling initrd for it | 14:24 |
| TheSheep | Epicenter: it has to be compiled for every computer, unfortunately | 14:24 |
| Epicenter | ahh | 14:24 |
| Epicenter | Initrd.. that has something to do with boot, right? | 14:24 |
| TheSheep | yes, that's he script that is run right at the beginning -- the one that displays progress bar and loads all th services | 14:25 |
| Epicenter | Ahh | 14:25 |
| TheSheep | it also mounts all disks and stuff | 14:25 |
| Epicenter | WTF | 14:26 |
| Epicenter | in Firefox, my cursor keeps turning into a cube of garbage and leaving trails of corruption | 14:26 |
| Epicenter | X just hates this card doesn't it? | 14:28 |
| TheSheep | no idea | 14:29 |
| Epicenter | ugh now the cursor's leaving this shit everywhere | 14:32 |
| TheSheep | !language | 14:34 |
| ubotu | Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. | 14:34 |
| Epicenter | my bad | 14:34 |
| TheSheep | nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! | 14:35 |
| Epicenter | Is that so! | 14:36 |
| Epicenter | Hm. I hope CPUID and MSR are in the kernel | 14:36 |
| Epicenter | So I can use longrun to manipulate CPU settings | 14:36 |
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| Guus__ | what does the little round button do that is to the left of the close/maximise/minimise? | 15:42 |
| TheSheep | Guus__: pins the window to all workspaces | 15:50 |
| TheSheep | Guus__: "sticks" | 15:50 |
| Guus__ | ok | 15:50 |
| Guus__ | thabk you :) | 15:50 |
| agrebnev | Hello all. I have a problem with Xubuntu 7.10 and Keyboard layouts. My changes are not saved. Any advice? | 16:00 |
| TheSheep | agrebnev: change the X default keyboard layout | 16:01 |
| TheSheep | agrebnev: with 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' | 16:01 |
| agrebnev | TheSheep: I was asked many questions about x config. I have answered DEFAULT to all. Nothing changed. I want to add additional layout to US layout. | 16:07 |
| === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache | ||
| PriceChild | ok | 17:03 |
| mrdlouisd | I have a pen drive that has the boot flag option on and I can't get it to turn off. I'm extremely new to linux and just cant figure out how to format it. | 17:03 |
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| === pricechild is now known as PriceChild | ||
| james9178 | Good morning, could anyone tell me how to create a shortcut in thunar? | 18:45 |
| TheSheep | james9178: drag and drop with the right mouse button | 18:46 |
| TheSheep | james9178: then select link from the menu | 18:46 |
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| james9178 | ahh, that was painless, thanks! | 18:48 |
| james9178 | thanks for your help yesterday btw, In the end i just rebuilt the laptop and mounted the parttion as /home from the start | 18:49 |
| TheSheep | james9178: it didn't work? | 18:50 |
| james9178 | no, I must have done something worng | 18:51 |
| TheSheep | or I forgot about something | 18:51 |
| === leche_y_galletas is now known as leche | ||
| solomon | can xubuntu be installed from a usb stick? i see a lot about installing _to_ a usb stick, but i'm just concerned about booting from one to run the installer | 20:32 |
| TheSheep | solomon: have you looked at the !install page? | 20:46 |
| solomon | TheSheep: hm, why would i do a think like that? i googled... :D | 20:50 |
| zoredache | solomon: yes, it can. it does get tricky though. When I ran the install, the installer put grub onto my usb stick instead of my hard drive | 20:50 |
| TheSheep | !install | solomon | 20:50 |
| ubotu | solomon: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate | 20:50 |
| === PriceChild is now known as pricey | ||
| goppp_ | !multi head | 21:58 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about multi head - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 21:58 |
| TheSheep | !twinhead | 22:03 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about twinhead - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 22:03 |
| * TheSheep scratches his head | 22:03 | |
| TheSheep | !dual-head | goppp_ | 22:04 |
| ubotu | goppp_: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama | 22:04 |
| goppp_ | I tryed that but it didn'twork | 22:06 |
| Bianconeri | hello I want to install eeexubuntu on my eee pc and I am somewhat confused, should I just wipe out the xandros partition or install on sdhc or what? | 22:50 |
| Gforce20 | I need some help with Xubuntu. It takes me back to the login screen whenever I try to open a Terminal. | 22:53 |
| Gforce20 | Is this a common/easy-to-fix problem? I'm kind of new to Linux. | 22:56 |
| zoredache | it is a known bug.... | 22:58 |
| zoredache | I don't think there is a fix other then using a crappy video driver | 22:58 |
| zoredache | https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-terminal/+question/7143 | 23:00 |
| Gforce20 | Hm, thanks. | 23:02 |
| Gforce20 | Also, my wireless network card isn't being recognized anymore (it once was), but I'll search for that using that website. Thanks | 23:03 |
| bazz | how can i have a few commands execute every time i log in? i use gdm/xfce and i've tried ~/.config/autostart/foo.desktop but that doesn't seem to work. | 23:08 |
| zoredache | add them in settings/autostarted applications | 23:08 |
| bazz | zoredache: which is where? | 23:09 |
| zoredache | or write a script and add that to autostarted | 23:09 |
| zoredache | click on the button that is on the top-left corner of your screen | 23:09 |
| zoredache | then seetings, then autostarted applications | 23:09 |
| bazz | zoredache: can an autostarted app be a script? | 23:10 |
| zoredache | yes | 23:10 |
| zoredache | the script needs to be executable and have the correct interpeter mentioned in the #! | 23:11 |
| bazz | zoredache: ahh, that's why that wasn't working for me before | 23:11 |
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