goppphey any use ubuntu, and gotten dual monitor to work00:05
ubotuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama00:07
gopppI tryed that00:07
zoredacheand http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22117400:08
zoredacheyeah, I don't know much beyond the basics...00:08
zoredachethose guides seemed pretty complete00:09
DirtySanchezi downloaded xubuntu desktop.. the problem is, it takes me hours to load everything, i just want to install it right away.. is there some way to do this in the menu?00:16
zoredachewhat do you mean in the menu?00:17
DirtySanchezwhen i put the cd in my drive, and reboot my shitty windows to start from the CD ROM00:17
DirtySanchezthen i press F2 and "C" to start from the CD00:18
DirtySanchezthen a menu shows up.. to install xubuntu00:18
zoredacheyou probably should look at downloading and installing from the 'alternate disk' if you are having performance issues from the livecd00:19
DirtySanchez'alternate disk' it will just install it right away?00:20
zoredacheno, not right away,00:20
zoredacheyour computer still needs to be partitioned, formated, and have files copyied on to it00:20
zoredachethe installation will be faster though00:21
DirtySanchezyes, that's what i mean.. if 'alternate disk' is just for installing00:21
zoredacheWell you can also boot to a rescue mode command line.  But it is generally for installation only00:22
zoredacheno gui, or anything else fancy00:22
DirtySanchezwhat i understood from livecd what it does, is loads up the system so you get an idea of what is all about, and that takes hours for me00:22
zoredachewell that is an advantage of the livecd... but the livecd doesn't work well if you a)don't have lots of ram, b) don't have a fast optical drive)00:23
DirtySanchezmy ram sucks, my drive too00:23
DirtySanchezi will download the alternate cd. thanks for your help00:26
DirtySanchezcya around00:26
zoredacheis there a command line tool that will give the entire path to a file, when given a relative path?00:51
zoredachelocate searches through a database that is rarely updated.  I need to get the full path for something that will be recently created00:53
jgamiosomebody can help to use compiz01:16
nam3dif I run a command, how do i make the output appear in an text file?01:28
zoredacheusually you just use the redirection operator01:28
zoredacheso --- echo "hello world" > textfile.txt01:29
zoredacheor ifconfig > textfile.txt01:29
zoredacheif you want to append use >>01:29
nam3dwhat do you mean with append?01:29
zoredacheyour output is added to the file instead of replacing the file01:30
zoredachesee http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-3.html for tons of detail about redirection and piping01:30
mindframe_anyone know of a good guide to get compiz running in xubuntu?02:17
voltagenot familiar with that app mindframe_02:20
venzQuestion: Is the xfce4 package already a window & desktop manger?02:40
TangentBuntuI'm trying to start x03:46
TangentBuntu/root/.xinitrc: line 1: xfce-session: command not found03:46
neur1hello i'm trying to conf my sound and alsaconf doesn't work , what's the correct command?07:13
neur1what's the command to conf alsa? , tried alsaconf didn't work07:22
ere4sineurl: I found alsa.conf in /usr/share so... -  sudo /usr/share/alsa.conf07:32
TheSheepere4si: that won't work07:34
ere4sisorry neurl - /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf  - but it says for me command not found, but locate just found it07:34
TheSheepneur1: you don't need to configure alsa07:34
TheSheepneur1: it should work with the default configuration07:34
ere4sineurl: try alsamixer and see if that is what you need - command = alsamixer07:36
emdashanyone know /win 207:37
TheSheepemdash: excuse me?07:37
ere4sineurl: the wiki for alsamixer commands - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alsamixer07:39
emdashTheSheep: typo07:39
emdashrather, forgot to clear th input buffer before typing irc commands07:39
TheSheepemdash: alt+2 is faster ;)07:40
emdashTheSheep: i always forget the key bindings07:42
ere4sibeen trying to fix this for ages - I vnc into my headless xubuntu server and open thunar and it shuts straight away, I open it again and it stays open - there's nothing in any log on any comp - how can I resolve this?07:48
TheSheepere4si: can you try opening it in a terminal and see if it shows any messages?07:50
ere4siTheSheep, shows no messages07:52
TheSheepere4si: even the first time when it crashes?07:54
ere4sitried that ages ago and many times since - never a message or log entry or even a beep...07:54
TheSheepthen try strace07:55
TheSheepstrace thunar07:56
TheSheepshould give you plenty of information07:56
ere4siread(6, 0x80e6718, 2048)                = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) - third last line, TheSheep07:58
ere4siexit_group(0)                           = ?07:58
ere4siProcess 7325 detached - last two lines07:58
ere4sithese were printed after the dir was diplayed07:59
ere4siTheSheep, thanks for the heads up on strace - I'll need to do some reading to find out the results :)08:01
TheSheepere4si: you need strace -f to follow forks08:05
ere4sithnks TheSheep  will explore that08:19
ere4silots to read!08:19
neur1thanks again08:24
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ubotuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama11:43
ubotuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead11:43
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EpicenterHello :) If I want to use the XFree86 X server instead of Xorg, how do I do it? I know how to install the xfree86 server but how do I pick which one runs? thanks.13:20
ablomenEpicenter, why do you want to do that?13:22
EpicenterI've read about someone who got XFree86 working well on my laptop with the siliconmotion driver. When I run Xorg, with the same driver, the server uses 50-100% of the CPU all the time. it's uselessly slow13:22
EpicenterSo low the mouse cursor jerks around and only updates once a second or two.13:22
Epicenter*so slow13:22
EpicenterI think Xorg tries to use hardware acceleration, and the Lynx3DM+ chipset seems to be SLOWER than software graphics. It is in windows.13:23
ablomenhmm but at least in gutsy the xserver-xfree86 package is just a transitional package (it just installs xorg when your upgrading from a very old *buntu)13:24
Epicenterablomen: Ugh... any recommendations then?13:25
ablomenEpicenter, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion/+bug/136853/comments/613:26
ubotuLaunchpad bug 136853 in xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion "[Gutsy] multiple regressions since Feisty" [High,Confirmed]13:26
ablomenso maybe the color depth thing works13:27
EpicenterI have both this guy's problems13:27
Epicenterthe blanking screen and no virtual consoles working13:27
Epicenterthey are all black screens13:27
ablomenwell he claims it fixes it :)13:29
EpicenterSo 24bpp is impossible then huh?13:29
Epicenteroh well. I'll live.13:29
Epicentergiving this a try...13:30
EpicenterHow did you find this bug repoert?13:30
ablomengoogle ;)13:32
ablomen"siliconmotion ubuntu"13:32
EpicenterSo simple. :)13:32
Epicentercome to think of it the colors sure go screwy a lot too13:33
Epicenterespecially when gdm comes up13:34
ablomenafter the fix?13:34
Epicentertrying to do the fix now13:35
EpicenterX is so slow it's hard to type13:35
ablomenah ok :)13:35
EpicenterIs Modprobe permanent?13:36
Epicenteror do I need to do it every time I power cycle the machine13:36
TheSheepEpicenter: every time13:37
ablomenyou can add it too /etc/modules13:37
TheSheepEpicenter: you can add that module to /etc/modules13:37
EpicenterX is down to a much more manageable <1% :)13:39
Epicenterand ... v.consoles work :D13:39
Epicenterif I'm running Xubuntu but I want to install the Gnome desktop environment how would I do it?13:55
ablomensudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop13:58
EpicenterThanks :)13:58
TheSheepEpicenter: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop if you want complete ubuntu13:58
EpicenterI hope it doesn't need too much space. / is 6gb13:59
TheSheepEpicenter: I'm afraid there is no single package to install if you only want gnome alone13:59
EpicenterHow much extra crap comes with gnome?14:00
EpicenterWhat's the difference between Xubuntu-desktop and Ubuntu-desktop?14:02
EpicenterThey both add gnome I assume14:02
TheSheepEpicenter: mostly xfce instead of gnome, plus some other default applications, like abiword and gnumerica instead of openoffice14:03
TheSheepEpicenter: no, xubuntu comes with xfce14:03
EpicenterI assume I can remove whatever I don't want later and not enter dependency hell?14:04
TheSheepEpicenter: yes14:04
TheSheepEpicenter: well, trying to remove some packages will ask you to remove half of your system, obviously14:05
TheSheepEpicenter: but you get to confirm it14:05
EpicenterI hope Gnome isn't too slow. I don't like XFCE much, but this isn't too snappy a system14:06
EpicenterDoesn't even show icons for mounted disks on the dekstop. That's TOO minimalistic14:06
Epicenterif I wanted that minimalist I'd use a terminal...14:06
TheSheepEpicenter: it does it14:06
TheSheepEpicenter: it shows icons on the desktop14:06
Epicentermine doesn't :(14:07
TheSheepEpicenter: make sure you have it enabled in settings->desktop settings14:07
TheSheepEpicenter: but it's enabled by default14:07
EpicenterI guess not on mine. (14:08
ablomenEpicenter, the only thing gnome has over xfce that is "significant" is gnomeVFS, so you have to mount your network shares by hand14:08
ablomenthe rest is all there14:08
EpicenterIs it a lot slower?14:08
ablomenwhat? gnome?14:09
ablomenyeah it is14:09
EpicenterXFCE is pretty sluggish already14:09
ablomeni even notice the difference on my main system (which has good specs)14:10
EpicenterI don't see any Settings->Desktop settings14:10
EpicenterI have a preferences menu but there's neither in there.14:10
ablomenEpicenter, open the settings manager => desktop settings => behavior tab =>Desktop icons14:12
ablomenand set that to file/launcher icons14:12
ablomenthen you can check home, file system, removable devices etc14:12
EpicenterI definitely don't see a Settings Manager.14:13
ablomenthats menu (with the mouse in the blue ubuntu logo), settings, settings manager14:13
EpicenterNone of that, either.14:14
EpicenterNo blue logos anywhere14:14
EpicenterApplications, Places, System, Firefox/Mail/help icons, a few applets displaying time, date, battery info, shutdown button.14:15
Epicentertaskbar at the bottom. that's it14:15
ablomenhuh.. your desktop doesnt look like this?.. http://www.xubuntu.org/files/thunar.png14:16
EpicenterThe ubuntu logo is red and orange, not blue. No settings menu in there14:17
EpicenterAccessories, Games, Graphics, Intenret, Office, Sound&Video, Add/remove.14:17
ablomenthen your using gnome...14:17
Epicenterthe desktop wallpaper is also different14:17
Epicenterthis sure doesn't look like gnome to me :P14:17
ablomencould you put a screenshot up somewhere?14:18
EpicenterI'll give it a shot14:18
TheSheepEpicenter: that's gnome14:18
TheSheepEpicenter: that's ubuntu, not xubuntu14:19
Epicentersince I installed from a xubuntu disc14:20
TheSheepEpicenter: magic :)14:20
Epicenteralright, once these 5 billion updates finish I'll install xubuntu-desktop then I guess14:21
TheSheepand then you can choose xfce form the sessions menu at login14:21
Epicenterjesus, what is the update manager DOING in there that is taking so long, compiling a new kernel?14:23
EpicenterIt's been on linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic for 20 minutes14:24
TheSheepEpicenter: it's compiling initrd for it14:24
TheSheepEpicenter: it has to be compiled for every computer, unfortunately14:24
EpicenterInitrd.. that has something to do with boot, right?14:24
TheSheepyes, that's he script that is run right at the beginning -- the one that displays progress bar and loads all th services14:25
TheSheepit also mounts all disks and stuff14:25
Epicenterin Firefox, my cursor keeps turning into a cube of garbage and leaving trails of corruption14:26
EpicenterX just hates this card doesn't it?14:28
TheSheepno idea14:29
Epicenterugh now the cursor's leaving this shit everywhere14:32
ubotuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.14:34
Epicentermy bad14:34
TheSheepnobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!14:35
EpicenterIs that so!14:36
EpicenterHm. I hope CPUID and MSR are in the kernel14:36
EpicenterSo I can use longrun to manipulate CPU settings14:36
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Guus__what does the little round button do that is to the left of the close/maximise/minimise?15:42
TheSheepGuus__: pins the window to all workspaces15:50
TheSheepGuus__: "sticks"15:50
Guus__thabk you :)15:50
agrebnevHello all. I have a problem with Xubuntu 7.10 and Keyboard layouts. My changes are not saved. Any advice?16:00
TheSheepagrebnev: change the X default keyboard layout16:01
TheSheepagrebnev: with 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'16:01
agrebnevTheSheep: I was asked many questions about x config. I have answered DEFAULT to all. Nothing changed. I want to add additional layout to US layout.16:07
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mrdlouisdI have a pen drive that has the boot flag option on and I can't get it to turn off. I'm extremely new to linux and just cant figure out how to format it.17:03
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james9178Good morning, could anyone tell me how to create a shortcut in thunar?18:45
TheSheepjames9178: drag and drop with the right mouse button18:46
TheSheepjames9178: then select link from the menu18:46
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james9178ahh, that was painless, thanks!18:48
james9178thanks for your help yesterday btw, In the end i just rebuilt the laptop and mounted the parttion as /home from the start18:49
TheSheepjames9178: it didn't work?18:50
james9178no, I must have done something worng18:51
TheSheepor I forgot about something18:51
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solomoncan xubuntu be installed from a usb stick?  i see a lot about installing _to_ a usb stick, but i'm just concerned about booting from one to run the installer20:32
TheSheepsolomon: have you looked at the !install page?20:46
solomonTheSheep: hm, why would i do a think like that?  i googled... :D20:50
zoredachesolomon: yes, it can.  it does get tricky though.  When I ran the install, the installer put grub onto my usb stick instead of my hard drive20:50
TheSheep!install | solomon20:50
ubotusolomon: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate20:50
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goppp_!multi head21:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about multi head - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about twinhead - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:03
* TheSheep scratches his head22:03
TheSheep!dual-head | goppp_22:04
ubotugoppp_: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama22:04
goppp_I tryed that but it didn'twork22:06
Bianconerihello I want to install eeexubuntu on my eee pc and I am somewhat confused, should I just wipe out the xandros partition or install on sdhc or what?22:50
Gforce20I need some help with Xubuntu. It takes me back to the login screen whenever I try to open a Terminal.22:53
Gforce20Is this a common/easy-to-fix problem? I'm kind of new to Linux.22:56
zoredacheit is a known bug....22:58
zoredacheI don't think there is a fix other then using a crappy video driver22:58
Gforce20Hm, thanks.23:02
Gforce20Also, my wireless network card isn't being recognized anymore (it once was), but I'll search for that using that website. Thanks23:03
bazzhow can i have a few commands execute every time i log in?  i use gdm/xfce and i've tried  ~/.config/autostart/foo.desktop but that doesn't seem to work.23:08
zoredacheadd them in settings/autostarted applications23:08
bazzzoredache: which is where?23:09
zoredacheor write a script and add that to autostarted23:09
zoredacheclick on the button that is on the top-left corner of your screen23:09
zoredachethen seetings, then autostarted applications23:09
bazzzoredache: can an autostarted app be a script?23:10
zoredachethe script needs to be executable and have the correct interpeter mentioned in the #!23:11
bazzzoredache: ahh, that's why that wasn't working for me before23:11
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