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Luciferhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/blueprint/+spec/task-tracking   <--- is there any way for me to comment on that?01:30
mwhudsoni think you can write on the whiteboard, but i don't know if that would be useful01:31
Luciferhmmm, it didn't look terribly useful when I looked at it :(01:32
Lucifernow I want to search for a "comment on blueprints" feature in the launchpad blueprint list ;)01:32
mwhudsonwell, it will result in mail being sent to some people01:32
mwhudsonnot sure who01:32
mwhudsonsending mail to launchpad-users may be a better idea :)01:33
Luciferthat particular blueprint is locked up behind a password prompt, so for all I know the comment I wanted to make is already made01:33
smhow can I get some old translation import queue entries purged ?02:46
smthe first 3 at https://translations.launchpad.net/zwiki/trunk/+imports02:46
thumpersm: you could try asking a question on the rosetta project...03:04
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Alohahow do i access launchpad.canonical.com?04:21
Hobbseeyou don't?04:21
Alohaoh heh :)04:21
Alohajust wanted to look up information for the pre 2.0 sprint04:21
Alohawhen you do apt-get do you download from soyuz?04:28
Alohaoh. then what packages does soyuz manage?04:45
jameshAloha: soyuz manages building of the packages and builds the package archive04:51
jameshAloha: apt-get then retrieves packages from that package archive (which is served as static files from a web server)04:51
Alohajamesh, so soyuz is the thing that actually builds the packages, like on the PPA servers... they use soyuz?04:52
jameshAloha: PPAs are managed by soyuz, yes.04:52
Alohajamesh, gotcha. what is launchpad calendar? theres nothing on the project page04:52
jameshAloha: a feature that we never really developed properly, and then withdrew04:53
Alohajamesh, gotcha, thnx04:53
lifelessthumper: damn ozone04:54
thumperlifeless: burnt?04:55
lifelesscaitlyn, yay accidentally paging up in the channel04:55
thumperlifeless: that'd be caitlin04:59
Alohalaunchpad says there was an error connecting to launchpad server05:01
lifelessback now05:03
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ubotuNew bug: #189866 in soyuz "publish-distro should be a LaunchpadScript" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18986611:17
ubotuNew bug: #189830 in python-launchpad-bugs "Launchpad's login bug: two times to be able to enter" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18983011:18
ubotuNew bug: #189880 in rosetta "Need to support six plural forms" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18988011:18
asacyou surely know the dupe suggestion list when filing a bug :)? i tried to produce similar results using adv. search form, no success.11:28
asacany idea? maybe some url/post data magic would do the trick?11:28
ubotuNew bug: #189890 in rosetta "Max. number of plural forms is hard-coded" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18989011:55
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ubotuNew bug: #189904 in soyuz "cron.germinate change to avoid hardcoding URLs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18990413:00
zulhi, how do I make one group a sub-member of another group13:21
zulie: I want ubuntu-xen to be a member of ubuntu-virt13:22
Hobbseezul: are you an admin of the first group?13:22
Hobbseeer, the parent group?13:22
salgadozul, if you're an admin of ubuntu-virt you can go and add ubuntu-xen to it13:22
zulsalgado: ah..ok..gotcha13:23
salgadozul, note that one of the admins from ubuntu-xen will have to approve that, though13:23
salgadothey'll be notified by email that they should either approve or not13:24
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ddaahey there14:34
ddaaI'm setting up a project for Logix http://livelogix.net/logix/index.html14:34
ddaathere's one of those annoying ghost account already using the name "logix"14:35
ddaaI would like this name for the Logix Team14:35
ddaaCould someone be so kind as to rename the logix user to something else?14:35
ddaakiko-afk: can you do this?14:36
kiko-afkI could, let me just check14:49
ubotuNew bug: #189923 in malone "RFE: discourage no-package bug filing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18992314:49
kiko-afkddaa, done!14:50
ddaakiko-afk: thanks14:50
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kikotwo ghosts with two stones14:50
bigjoolsit's a right ghost story14:51
ubotuNew bug: #189932 in launchpad "Inconsistency in showing the Translation status  (dup-of: 189931)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18993215:00
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No`hi all16:03
No`can anyone explain me why my tiny project with no release yet is now on the "featured project" on the home page?16:03
No`is it a bug?16:05
bacNo`:  the 'featured projects' are hand-picked projects the launchpad team thinks deserve highlighting.  i've seen PyRoom mentioned in a few blogs recently, perhaps that is why it was picked.  enjoy the exposure!16:17
No`bac: but it has been created on sunday! and it's... almost empty! *sigh*16:18
* No` will then put a sign on the project home page: EARLY BETA, YOU'VE BEEN WARNED ;)16:19
mrevellNo`: I think it's a good thing that the project's on the home page, tbh. If you'd really prefer it wasn't, we can remove it. Don't forget, Launchpad's a development platform, so people won't necessarily be expecting a polished product.16:20
jelmermrevell: Hi Matt16:21
jelmermrevell: Do you know whether there are any plans to allow exporting bug data ?16:21
mrevelljelmer: Hi!16:21
mrevelljelmer: Yes, that's something we're planning to provide. What are you looking to do, in particular?16:22
jelmermrevell: Some way to export the bugs for a single project in a standard format (XML or something) and as a single file16:23
jelmermrevell: for offline use, and so I'm sure I can migrate if I ever want to16:24
mrevelljelmer: It's our goal to make it easy to do that but it's not available right now. 16:26
ubotuNew bug: #189962 in malone "Subscribing oneself to a bug is not recorded on /+activity" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18996216:30
mtaylorstatik: around? 16:54
kiko-fudhey mtaylor 16:58
mtaylorhey kiko-fud !16:58
mtaylorkiko-fud: are you spreading fear, uncertainty or doubt? 16:58
kiko-fudI am a fud defeater16:59
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kikoit's hard but I lay down the law17:02
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kiko*** meeting in T-8 minutes in #launchpad-meeting, be there or be^217:52
stubI'm definitely still roundish so I guess I have to turn up :-P17:55
ubotuNew bug: #189980 in twisted "pidfile of buildd-sequencer needs to be world-readable" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18998017:56
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ubotuNew bug: #189994 in launchpad "Add python-turbogears and germinate to launchpad-dependencies" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18999418:50
ubotuNew bug: #57716 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 (restricted) "Edgy  Eft - fglrx module not started (dup-of: 63182)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/5771620:18
ubotuNew bug: #60422 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 (restricted) "Problem with fglrx in edgy. (dup-of: 63182)" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/6042220:18
ubotuNew bug: #61451 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 (restricted) "totem-xine very slow since fglrx 7.0.0-8.25.18+ (dup-of: 63182)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/6145120:18
ubotuNew bug: #66287 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 (restricted) "fglrx freeze machine (dup-of: 63182)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/6628720:28
ubotuNew bug: #67325 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 (restricted) "fglrx bug (dup-of: 63182)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/6732520:28
aantnI'm getting an error when trying to push my branch to launchpad20:29
aantn"The authenticity of host 'bazaar.launchpad.net (' can't be established."20:29
aantnhere's the full thing20:30
kikoaantn, say yes.20:32
aantnkiko: kk20:33
kikoaantn, ken?20:35
aantnkiko: it connects without a problem now... thanks20:40
* aantn pushes his first branch20:40
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kikoaantn, טוב מאוך  20:44
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aantnkiko: heh :-D20:45
aantnbut you got the last letter wrong :P20:45
kikoaantn, I hate kaf20:46
kikomy keyboard tricks me into using it20:46
kikowhy isn't there a dalet sofit though. I wonder if there used to be20:47
* aantn shrugs20:47
aantnthere's no gimmel sofit either20:47
kikoaantn, don't sofit forms exist because it was hard to tell words apart in narrow script?20:48
aantnkiko: I'm not sure... It would be interesting to look into20:50
aantnkiko: shouldn't there be a sofit form for every letter that's commonly found at the end of words then?20:51
kikoaantn, that would make sense, but it's not the case. the only reference I've found so far says it's a "purely calligraphic phenomenon": http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/b-hebrew/2005-October/026546.html20:52
aantnkiko: hmm...20:54
kikoor "remnants of unstressed final vowels": http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/b-hebrew/2005-October/026527.html20:54
kikowow, maybe nobody knows20:54
ubotuNew bug: #190024 in launchpad "OOPS in a non-existent feeds url " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19002420:55
aantnkiko: I always found taf and tsaf to be interesting20:55
aantnsupposedly tsaf correct pronunciation is a "th" sound20:56
kikoaantn, what's tsaf?20:58
aantnkiko: last letter20:58
aantn(however you want to spell it in english :-D )20:58
kikolast letter of what? 20:59
aantnkiko: the hebrew alphabet20:59
kikoaantn, so tav, sure -- but tsav? is that with a dagesh in it?21:00
kiko(does tav even take a dagesh)21:00
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aantnkiko: most people don't use it21:02
aantnsome ashkenazik jews pronounce it similar to a tsadi21:02
kikoaantn, is there a difference in letter shape?21:03
kikoor is it just a positional difference?21:03
aantnits more of a yeshivish pronunciation21:03
aantnkiko: just the dot21:04
aantnkiko: you mostly hear it used with a tsadi ("tz") sound amoung charedim21:04
kikohow interesting21:05
kikoah, this is why you have sabbath versus sabbat21:05
kikowow, that's very interesting!21:05
aantnkiko: exactly21:06
kikoI didn't know tav took dagesh21:06
kikobut I don't know much about anything!21:06
aantnkiko: heh, you know far more about the hebrew language than I do21:08
kikoall I know is from 10 days I spent there around new years!21:08
aantnkiko: my knowledge is completely none academical and only from school and experience21:09
aantnkiko: where do you live?21:09
kikoin brazil21:09
kikotrue land of sunshine, etc21:09
* aantn made aliyah from the U.S. last year21:10
kikoI hear there's been snow in jerusalem this month?21:10
aantnI've seen a fair number of south americans in Israel21:10
aantnkiko: yes21:10
kikolots of people from argentina21:10
kikoit was cold when I was there, but nothing like snow21:10
aantnIt's not *real* snow21:10
aantn(only a foot)21:10
kikolike -2C in the very early morning21:10
kikolike london snow then!21:11
* aantn comes from NY21:11
kikoaantn, how are you finding bzr so far?21:11
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kiko-afkjohan wants me to go watch movies instead of work21:13
kiko-afkonly 7pm! and already slacking21:13
aantnkiko-afk: enjoy :-D21:14
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ubotuNew bug: #190032 in launchpad "Personal branches can only be edited by the author" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19003221:36
mwhudsonwithout reading the report, it's a bit hard to see that one as a bug21:43
ubotuNew bug: #190053 in launchpad-bazaar "codebrowse should not use the system bzrlib" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19005322:30
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