[11:02] <kwwii> well, this is certainly a busy channel
[11:27] <bersace> Hi everyone
[11:27] <bersace> i largely prefer having a polished theme for LTS rather than a new buggy theme
[11:27] <bersace> breaking thing is a matter of LTS+1 ;)
[11:27] <bersace> keep up the good work
[11:27] <bersace> andreasn: congrats for all you icons, much nice :)
[11:30] <andreasn> bersace: hm? what icons?
[11:30] <andreasn> all of them?
[11:30] <kwwii> hi bersace
[11:30] <kwwii> hi andreasn
[11:31] <kwwii> http://sinecera.de/panel_icons_example.png
[11:31] <kwwii> andreasn: check those icons out and let me know what you think
[11:31] <kwwii> naturally they are not perfect yet :-)
[11:32] <andreasn> cool
[11:32] <andreasn> I defenitly want to push gnome upstream in this direction too
[11:33] <andreasn> I mean, we do that on other platforms, like n810 and openmoko anyway
[11:33] <andreasn> I can't make out the icon on the left, is that deskbar-applet?
[11:39] <bersace> kwwii: kind of OS X like ;)
[11:40] <bersace> kwwii:  is think you should not be so simplistic
[11:40] <bersace> see, Apple has its own logo plus spotlit logo color
[11:40] <bersace> i mean, please keep update, logout and application logo
[11:40] <bersace> update needs to be coloured
[11:41] <kwwii> update would be colored when it needs action
[11:42] <kwwii> actually, it would not be shown when it is not in use I guess
[11:42] <kwwii> some things will have color
[11:42] <kwwii> and the long term idea is to look into using an etched look down the road some days
[11:42] <kwwii> day
[11:42] <kwwii> making simple shapes is the right way forward, I think
[11:45] <kwwii> andreasn: yeah, it is supposed to be the deskbar applet :-)
[11:45] <kwwii> andreasn: have there been any discussions about using this kind of idea upstream?
[11:46] <andreasn> no big discussions really
[11:46] <andreasn> I just chatted with vuntz a bit about it
[11:47] <kwwii> one thing I notice is that if we use simple icons they need to be a bit smaller or they stand out too much
[11:47] <kwwii> of course, I have no idea how this can be implemented yet :-)
[11:48] <bersace> kwwii: do you actually intend to drop the distributor logo ?
[11:49] <kwwii> bersace: no, that was just something I missed when making the mockup
[11:49] <bersace> ok
[11:49] <bersace> nop
[11:49] <kwwii> it will be the only thing that is always colored, I guess
[11:49] <bersace> i did a wallpaper last month : http://bersac.hd.free.fr/~bersace/tmp/tango-blur.png
[11:49] <bersace> (not yet named)
[11:50] <bersace> do you like it ?
[11:50] <bersace> (this is NOT a proposal for Ubuntu ;) )
[11:51] <kwwii> still loading
[11:51] <kwwii> hehe, I like the things you can do with fyre :-)
[11:52] <kwwii> I thought about using some kind of program like that to randomize the defualt wallpaper
[11:52] <kwwii> just create one on the fly  - but I guess that will never work well
[11:58] <andreasn> cool idea though
[12:21] <elkbuntu> kwwii, svg animations could almost work, if you want to torment yourself
[12:37] <kwwii> I want to be known as the guy who brought javascript to the Gnome desktop :p
[12:39] <andreasn> http://www.pyrodesktop.org/Main_Page
[12:39] <andreasn> too late :)
[12:42] <kwwii> lol
[14:59] <kwwii> nothlit: I suggested you for UDS this year, hope you don't mind :-)
[15:00] <kwwii> erm, s/year/May
[15:05] <kwwii> btw, who made Fela Kuti?
[21:00] <nothlit> kwwii: oh ok great :)
[21:00] <nothlit> kwwii: https://launchpad.net/~cogneato (AshCogs) made it