| superm1 | xivulon, use -us -uc | 00:05 |
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| superm1 | avoids signing files that way | 00:06 |
| xivulon | superm1 thx | 00:06 |
| superm1 | np | 00:07 |
| evand | hrm, mpt is missing. | 07:38 |
| evand | cjwatson_: is this acceptable in your eyes: http://evalicious.com/resize-partition.png | 07:38 |
| evand | I figured the names can be grabbed from os-prober and .disk/info respectively | 07:39 |
| evand | color suggestions welcome (I'll probably grab the theme colors) | 07:39 |
| evand | oh and I'll shrink the height down when I wire up the size request to the label height. | 07:43 |
| evand | or perhaps I should replace Ubuntu 8.04 with "Install Target" or something along those lines. Hrm. | 07:47 |
| cjwatson_ | evand: looks good! | 09:24 |
| cjwatson_ | fishing it out of .disk/info if possible would be neat, maybe with a fallback for when it isn't possible | 09:24 |
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| soren | cjwatson: I need some more help with this iscsi.. I can't figure out the easiest way to test it. If I shove the udeb into the initrd (using EXTRAS), it's already unpackad, so it seems anna-install doesn't do anything, but I need it to execute the postinst script for it to ask me the relevant questions.. How to do? | 09:44 |
| cjwatson | do you have an installer-menu-item field in control? | 09:46 |
| cjwatson | if so, you should be able to go back to the main menu and select it | 09:46 |
| cjwatson | otherwise, (a) you probably should, (b) try udpkg --configure | 09:47 |
| soren | Ah, no I don't. | 09:47 |
| soren | Just Installer-Menu-Item: something or X-&? | 09:49 |
| soren | XB-&, it seems. | 09:50 |
| cjwatson | right | 09:57 |
| cjwatson | if you want tedious facts ;-) | 09:58 |
| soren | *g* | 10:00 |
| soren | Erm.. Ok, now I get: | 10:00 |
| soren | Unable to set title for open-iscsi-udeb. | 10:00 |
| soren | and shortly after: | 10:01 |
| soren | Menu item 'open-iscsi-udeb' succeeded but requested to be left unconfigured. | 10:01 |
| soren | I'm guessing this means something to you? | 10:01 |
| soren | cjwatson: ^^ | 10:01 |
| cjwatson | that means it exited with status 10 | 10:06 |
| cjwatson | unable to set title means you forgot to include a debian-installer/open-iscsi-udeb/title template, but is otherwise harmless | 10:07 |
| cjwatson | exiting 10 usually means either you deliberately backed up or else you failed to handle some other error from debconf | 10:07 |
| soren | Exited with status 10? I'm guessing something debconfy does this if you don't play nicely? I certainly neve explicitly exit 10. | 10:07 |
| cjwatson | code 10 from debconf means "question does not exist" | 10:08 |
| cjwatson | so perhaps you messed up your templates somehow | 10:08 |
| soren | cjwatson: Ah, that's quite possible. | 10:10 |
| soren | Yes, my templates are not even in the udeb. wtf.. | 10:10 |
| cjwatson | that would do it. missing dh_installdebconf? | 10:11 |
| soren | Er, yes. I probably removed it when I got offended that it didn't want to install my .config because it was a udeb... I was quite tired at that point :) | 10:12 |
| cjwatson | well, it was correct | 10:13 |
| cjwatson | you don't use .config in udebs | 10:13 |
| soren | Exactly. | 10:13 |
| soren | I wasn't thinking straight. | 10:13 |
| cjwatson | :-) | 10:13 |
| soren | I'm better now (I hope). | 10:13 |
| soren | er... | 10:15 |
| soren | Oh, right, it's in control, not data. Never mind. | 10:15 |
| soren | With a bit of luck this'll be ready later today, so we can have a new installer tomorrow with shiny new kernels full of virtio love and iscsi magic. Woo! | 10:16 |
| cjwatson | kewl | 10:17 |
| cjwatson | maybe by then my mirror run will have stopped eating ALL MY BANDWIDTH | 10:18 |
| soren | :) | 10:19 |
| soren | Hmm... Where are templates stored in the installer? They're not in /var/lib/dpkg/info.. | 10:20 |
| soren | And /var/cache/debconf doesn't exist. | 10:20 |
| cjwatson | they're in /var/lib/dpkg/info in the initrd, until /lib/debian-installer-startup.d/S30templates runs and loads them into the debconf db in /var/lib/cdebconf/ | 10:23 |
| cjwatson | S20templates I mean | 10:23 |
| soren | ...at which point they'll disappear from /var/lib/dpkg? | 10:23 |
| cjwatson | S20templates explicitly removes them to save memory | 10:23 |
| cjwatson | templates files tend to be pretty big, what with translations and all | 10:24 |
| soren | I was just about to mumble something about memory :) | 10:24 |
| soren | Woo! It's asking me about iscsi now. | 10:57 |
| * soren does a victory dance | 10:58 | |
| cjwatson | nice | 10:59 |
| soren | Hm... It needs a few modules to be installed. Should I just add them to the core-storage-modules or should I be adding a new udeb for that? | 11:01 |
| cjwatson | are they iscsi-specific? | 11:02 |
| soren | Yes. | 11:03 |
| soren | So add another udeb to the kernel build for the icsi modules and make the open-iscsi-udeb depend on that? | 11:05 |
| cjwatson | I think so, yeah | 11:06 |
| soren | One step forwards, two steps backwards. | 11:07 |
| soren | *headdesk* Why, oh why, is the key combo for closing a kvm window and for switching to the syslog vt in the installer the same? | 11:30 |
| * soren <---- not bitter | 11:31 | |
| soren | cjwatson: Any reason why getpwuid would fail in the installer? | 11:43 |
| soren | Odd.. open-iscsi doesn't care if your uid is 0. It cares about whether or not the username assigned to your uid is "root". | 12:08 |
| soren | and for some reason getpwent(0) fails in the installer. | 12:08 |
| * soren -> lunch | 12:10 | |
| cjwatson | might need to depend on libnss-files-udeb | 12:18 |
| cjwatson | the nss modules you need aren't necessarily there otherwise | 12:18 |
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| soren | cjwatson: Ah! Yes, that helped significanly. | 13:04 |
| soren | W00t! http://warma.dk/iscsi-installer.png | 13:04 |
| soren | 14:04:23 < soren> cjwatson: Ah! Yes, that helped significanly. | 13:05 |
| soren | 14:04:42 < soren> W00t! http://warma.dk/iscsi-installer.png | 13:05 |
| cjwatson_ | soren: nice! | 13:12 |
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| soren | cjwatson: Final piece of the puzzle: The finish-install bit. This is where I'm supposed to install the iscsi package into the target system and copy over the configuration, correct? | 15:37 |
| cjwatson | you'd usually want to install it a bit earlier than that | 15:44 |
| cjwatson | you can call apt-install at (almost) any point, as long as it's before the CD is unmounted | 15:44 |
| cjwatson | (phone) | 15:44 |
| soren | Ok. I thought that was exactly the sort of thing finish-install was for. | 15:46 |
| soren | Well, I can't do it until there's a filesystem to install it onto, so I need to hook into something that runs after partman. | 15:46 |
| soren | (Just get back to me when you're off the phone. No rush) | 15:46 |
| cjwatson | soren: do you need to put the configuration in place before or after installing the package? | 16:20 |
| cjwatson | soren: usually it's best to ask for the package to be installed as part of pkgsel, which involves running apt-install in a post-base-installer.d hook | 16:20 |
| soren | cjwatson: Doesn't matter, I guess. | 16:20 |
| soren | I see. | 16:20 |
| soren | "apt-install foo" just queues foo for isntallation later? | 16:21 |
| cjwatson | soren: if you can arrange it, the most elegant way tends to be to create the configuration in post-base-installer.d (when /target exists and has a base system in it) and queue it for installation with apt-install | 16:21 |
| cjwatson | actually, wait a moment | 16:21 |
| cjwatson | yeah, that's right | 16:21 |
| soren | I create the configuration before partman runs. | 16:21 |
| soren | I just need to copy it over to the target system at some point. | 16:21 |
| cjwatson | apt-install queues for installation if it's running before apt-setup, and installs it immediately if it's running after apt-setup | 16:21 |
| soren | Ah, ok. | 16:21 |
| cjwatson | the benefit of queueing if possible is that it's faster and you get to piggyback on pkgsel's progress bar | 16:22 |
| cjwatson | (saves starting up apt yet another time) | 16:22 |
| soren | Ok.. | 16:22 |
| soren | So /usr/lib/post-base-installer.d/<some number>open-iscsi, I guess? | 16:23 |
| cjwatson | it is possible to install stuff from early finish-install.d hooks, but I prefer not to if possible | 16:23 |
| soren | Any advice on the numbering? | 16:23 |
| cjwatson | doesn't make much difference | 16:23 |
| soren | Ok. | 16:23 |
| cjwatson | hmm, let me just see how other similar things do it | 16:24 |
| cjwatson | notwithstanding the above it might be better to be consistent :-) | 16:24 |
| soren | I just noticed that the ordering in finish-install could be very important. | 16:24 |
| cjwatson | finish-install definitely, post-base-installer not really | 16:24 |
| soren | That too, yes :) | 16:24 |
| soren | Ok. | 16:24 |
| cjwatson | hmm | 16:26 |
| soren | This has been an interesting exercise. This is my first package to a) be a udeb and b) use debconf. Not to mention all the installer integration stuff. | 16:26 |
| cjwatson | the nearest thing I can find to standard practice is actually to queue the package for installation with apt-install in a suitable partman hook (basically once the user has committed to using it) and create configuration in finish-install | 16:26 |
| cjwatson | it's not really hugely important where you put the configuration in place, so meh, whatever | 16:27 |
| cjwatson | one of the problems with flexibility is that you can use it. :-) | 16:27 |
| * soren chuckles | 16:28 | |
| soren | So in finish-install, it should be <20, or thereabouts? | 16:30 |
| cjwatson | apt-install must be <15 | 16:32 |
| cjwatson | copying configuration to the target must be <95 | 16:32 |
| cjwatson | look at what's there and pick the thing that seems closest in spirit | 16:33 |
| soren | Will do. | 16:33 |
| xivulon | cjwatson diff of iso-scan is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55041/ | 16:36 |
| xivulon | did not test it though | 16:36 |
| cjwatson | thanks, I saw | 16:37 |
| cjwatson | would be better as a bug if you don't want it lost :) | 16:37 |
| xivulon | Bug #189630 | 16:37 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 189630 in lupin "d-i/hdmedia should have hooks similar to the ones in lupin/casper" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189630 | 16:37 |
| xivulon | will add iso-scan to it | 16:37 |
| xivulon | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/iso-scan/ or https://bugs.launchpad.net/iso-scan/ ? | 16:39 |
| cjwatson | the former | 16:39 |
| xivulon | done | 16:40 |
| xivulon | please feel free to comment on custom-installation/preseed part | 16:40 |
| xivulon | in casper basically I use a custom-installation folder that contains preseed + override files (if required) + hook scripts | 16:41 |
| xivulon | at the moment I do not require much more than preseed, but in the past hooks and overrides were handy | 16:42 |
| xivulon | would like to add something like that to d-i hdmedia too | 16:44 |
| xivulon | in the patch above I noticed they were using find | grep -i as opposed to find -iname. Is that because the version of find is crippled? I assumed it supported maxdepth | 16:56 |
| evand | re moving wubi from nsis to python and friends> with feature freeze next friday, I don't think it'd be a good idea. NSIS may be losing its maintainer, but it seems stable in its current form. | 17:23 |
| evand | now that's not to say you can't work on that in a separate branch with the intention of using it for the Wubi UI in Hardy+1 | 17:24 |
| xivulon | I agree with that, we can use python in next cycle, also for winfoss | 17:24 |
| xivulon | That will bring up space requirement by about ~ 2MB | 17:25 |
| xivulon | In my experiments, using pywin.mfc + py2exe/pyinstaller + upx, I can get away with 1.5-2.5MB for a full gui executable | 17:25 |
| evand | not terrible. | 17:26 |
| xivulon | also it will be inpractical to use native nsis package for building wubi this time around | 17:27 |
| evand | that's ok | 17:27 |
| evand | I think our current setup works fine for this release | 17:27 |
| xivulon | since it does not support System plugin calls (low level dll calls) and that requires a C wrapper for each time I use that | 17:27 |
| xivulon | evand if you manage to build it, I'd rather have you generate the builds | 17:28 |
| xivulon | I do not feel confident in having those being downloaded from a public server | 17:28 |
| evand | what do you mean by public server? | 17:28 |
| xivulon | sourceforge | 17:28 |
| xivulon | I and the old wubi contributors have ssh access, but if any of our passwords has been compromised that would be a big issue | 17:30 |
| evand | You can't rotate the passwords? | 17:30 |
| xivulon | for me yes | 17:31 |
| evand | if you're really concerned, we can move the stable wubi release that gets pulled in to http://people.ubuntu.com/~evand | 17:31 |
| xivulon | I like that better | 17:32 |
| evand | pulled into the live cd* | 17:32 |
| evand | ok | 17:32 |
| evand | I'll take care of that later today | 17:32 |
| xivulon | I was also working on a much overdue wubi code cleanup (including makefile reorganization) but I do not think I will have that by friday | 17:35 |
| xivulon | that should not affect functionality, but would make the life of others accessing the code much easier | 17:35 |
| xivulon | that becomes less urgent though considering that I will probably not use native makensis for the time being and that I might recode in python later on | 17:37 |
| evand | mmm, I imagine it will have to wait until the next release if it's not ready by Friday. This being a LTS release I imagine that slangasek will not appreciate freeze exception requests. | 17:38 |
| evand | ah, indeed. | 17:38 |
| evand | xivulon: thoughts on Henrik's email and follow up on the wiki page? Is coding proposal 2 something you can take care of? | 17:39 |
| cr3 | evand: hiya, you might know this: what's the name of the command to grab all the packages from a system which can be piped to another command so that the same packages can be installed on another machine? | 17:39 |
| evand | I usually use dpkg-query for such things. I'm not sure if there's a more elegant solution though. | 17:40 |
| xivulon | dpkg --get-selections? | 17:40 |
| evand | cr3: dpkg-query -W -f='${Package}\n' | 17:42 |
| xivulon | evand I haven't tried that with nsis and nsDialogs, if I can hook mouseover and click events should be doable, will need suitable artwork though | 17:43 |
| xivulon | I might not be able to complete it by friday though, or maybe I will be able to do only a rougher version (no graphics) | 17:44 |
| evand | dpkg-query -W -f='${Package}\n' | tr '\n' ' ' | sudo xargs apt-get install | 17:44 |
| cr3 | xivulon: that's what I was looking for, thanks! | 17:44 |
| evand | would be both ends | 17:44 |
| evand | xivulon: ok | 17:45 |
| xivulon | I am also looking at the buglist now | 17:45 |
| xivulon | translation staff I can postpone correct? | 17:45 |
| xivulon | I will need to change translation strings a bit | 17:45 |
| evand | I thought wubi had i18n support, no? | 17:46 |
| xivulon | yes but need to update some translations | 17:46 |
| xivulon | so far someone else was taking care of that, now it's just me | 17:47 |
| xivulon | and have to hook to rosetta | 17:47 |
| evand | so by postpone do you mean postpone until after FF or until the next Ubuntu release? | 17:48 |
| xivulon | after FF | 17:48 |
| xivulon | that will mostly involve updating PO files and changing strings around | 17:49 |
| xivulon | will try to do as much as possible before ff though | 17:49 |
| evand | I *think* that's ok as the language pack deadline is April 17th. | 17:49 |
| xivulon | that was my understanding too | 17:50 |
| xivulon | but on top of importing po files I may also change some strings/variables internally | 17:50 |
| xivulon | that too requires a cleanup | 17:50 |
| evand | I'd make as much of an effort to minimize the size of the delta post-FF. Obviously do what you have to wrt to i18n updates, but the less code that gets changed, the less chance there is of a bug appearing in the 11th hour. | 17:51 |
| xivulon | of course | 17:52 |
| xivulon | I am going through my list should be doable by friday, would need some help on #189630, I will submit a patch for custom-installation-scan mimicking iso-scan | 18:11 |
| CIA-24 | debian-installer: cjwatson * r873 ubuntu/ (build/config/common debian/changelog): | 18:21 |
| CIA-24 | debian-installer: * build/config/common: Update for Hardy (oops; fortunately this only | 18:21 |
| CIA-24 | debian-installer: mattered for manual builds). | 18:21 |
| xivulon | evand on your side (tag wubi) any item that seem problematic? | 18:24 |
| xivulon | cjwatson re metalinks, even if the feature is not implemented yet, we'd need to agree metalink urls soon since they will be hardcoded | 18:25 |
| xivulon | in an ini file at least, but it will be annoying changing that before releases to reflect metalink url name changes | 18:26 |
| xivulon | I might point to some symlinks/redirectable urls as well... | 18:26 |
| CIA-24 | ubiquity: evand * r2439 ubiquity/ubiquity/components/summary.py: You probably don't want to install grub to a swap partition. | 21:09 |
| CIA-24 | ubiquity: evand * r2440 ubiquity/ (bin/ubiquity-dm debian/changelog): * Updated the location of gnome-settings-daemon in ubiquity-dm. | 21:30 |
| CIA-24 | oem-config: evand * r408 oem-config/ (debian/changelog oem-config-dm): * Updated the location of gnome-settings-daemon (LP: #190029). | 21:33 |
| CIA-24 | oem-config: evand * r409 oem-config/ (aclocal.m4 configure configure.ac): Forgot to bump to 1.27 | 21:34 |
| CIA-24 | oem-config: evand * r410 oem-config/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog): | 21:36 |
| CIA-24 | oem-config: * Automatic update of included source packages: console-setup | 21:36 |
| CIA-24 | oem-config: 1.21ubuntu2. | 21:36 |
| CIA-24 | oem-config: evand * r411 oem-config/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.27 | 21:43 |
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