ubotuIn ubotu, jdong said: jfuv is <reply>New or inexperienced users may find vim hard to master. Please do not insist on using a complex editor.00:01
PriceChildI promised I'd add it if he sent it through ubotu...00:02
jdongthe chances of someone stumbling across this acronym.... ;-)00:03
naliothwhat is jfuv ?00:03
PriceChildjust use vim00:04
naliothNew or inexperienced users may find [vim|vi|emacs] hard to master.00:04
naliothoh, i get it.00:04
naliotha vim thing00:04
PriceChildnalioth, you are the only person I know to take the dong seriously.00:07
* jdong points out to PriceChild that he should probably have thought over his wording a bit more carefully00:07
PriceChildoh for crying out loud...00:07
* PriceChild goes to sit in the corner.00:08
LjLbit irritating this fellow, yeah.00:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about twss - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:13
LjL!no | pici00:14
ubotupici: Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!00:14
Picitakk LjL 00:15
LjLingen orsak00:15
ubotuastro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (iris)00:46
jackFYI-Sparrow here, just not on my normal box01:34
LjLwho's fyi-sparrow?01:35
jackCute, real cute01:35
LjLerr what's up with snuxoll01:36
LjLi mean, i think we've discussed Creationist before in #kubuntu, and decided we could just leave him alone01:36
LjLbut he's acting like an op in -ot01:37
jackHE was banned from #Mepis as well if memory serves01:37
LjLhe snuxoll?01:37
LjLnot to mention the kind of things he and goatz were saying before creationist joined01:37
LjLpretty ironic that he would jump on him methinks01:37
jackSorry.. creationist01:37
LjLwell fine, i do have him on highlight01:38
LjLstill i don't think that nickname is worth much ado01:38
LjLkittie agrees01:39
ubotuDrDerek called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (ghettoxover)03:35
crdlbxnu is trolling07:33
ubotuastro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (xnu)08:21
elkbuntuGary, you might want to check on xnu in #xubuntu08:30
ubotuastro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (ghetto)09:19
ubotuastro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (ghetto)09:26
ikonia!launchpad > ikonia11:46
ikoniaguys, whats the status of the flash plugin issue - it's marked as "fix released" in launchpad and "closed"11:47
ikoniaI can't get hold of Brendon but thought I'd see if I'd missed a release update.11:47
ubotuThe Flash plugin installation has been broken for some time. A fix has been released now, although it might not have yet reached all mirrors. If that is the case for your mirror, please wait a couple of hours.11:49
ikoniawhat is the fix ?11:52
ikoniaI can't see info on it, the bug for gutsy is just marked as closed11:52
jussi01ikonia: Im not sure - I guess you could grab the package from -updatesand have a look...11:53
ikoniathe way I'm reading it the md5sum's have been updated....and thats it11:54
ikoniaI hope I'm reading that wrong11:54
Hobbseeikonia: why?11:58
ikoniaas that's was the dirty fix that for months has been refused to be done11:58
ikoniait would be a shame if people have waited months for a fix that was refused, to then be done11:58
Hobbseethere's also a patch in kde* that makes it not break.11:59
ubotuIn #ubuntu-us-ga, nomasteryoda said: ubotu what is ubuntu12:16
jussi01!bot > nomasteryoda12:16
ikoniaHobbsee: ahh I didn't see that in the change log12:30
jussi01!staff | [14:29] <abrakada> #LinuxChat on Dalnet needs some good company and good channel operators. wana join? type /server -m irc.dal.net and join #LinuxChat to see.12:32
ubotuHey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel or Gary,  I could use a bit of your time :)12:33
PiciSame person(s) have been spamming for a few days from various hosts.12:33
jussi01Pici: I know, i asked nalioth about it yesterday12:33
jussi01[14:29] *** abrakada [n=Agenomot@]12:34
* jussi01 hugs the staff. :D12:37
elkbuntuthe loser even registered the nick12:38
jussi01elkbuntu: lol, unbeleivable12:38
elkbuntuoh, no, that was the kline12:38
elkbuntuno.. it wasnt... the idiot registered it12:38
elkbuntu do /ns info abrakada12:38
jussi01hehe, kinda funny sometimes12:39
PiciWell, makes sense, seeing that they're sending queries to people.12:40
jussi01anyway, Im off home. catch you all in a while12:40
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jussi01Hobbsee: ping13:02
Hobbseejussi01: pong13:04
jussi01Hobbsee: quick pm?13:04
ubotuSlart called the ops in #ubuntu ()13:35
LjLwonderful, wonderful... my flash *worked*, before the update.16:34
jussi01LjL: seems a lot of people are complaining of that16:34
LjLwell, seeing as the update was so rushed out in fury, it's understandable that there might be some issues </sarcasm>16:35
jussi01LjL: dont worry, its got me _very_ annoyed. if you come across a fix, please let me know. 16:36
LjLjussi01: i don't know... when i dist-upgraded, it just seemed like it would try to use the flash that i had already in my cache, and which had the wrong md5, and so would leave it alone16:37
LjLbut apparently it didn't leave it alone16:37
mneptokLjL: sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree16:50
mneptokshe work again. :)16:50
LjLmneptok: not quite16:51
LjLsudo rm /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz ; sudo apt-get --reinstall install flashplugin-nonfree <- got it reinstalled16:51
LjLbut it doesn't seem to have any intention of working in konqueror16:51
LjLit doesn't prompt me to install it anymore - but a flash app just gives me a gray box16:51
mneptokis the k-nsplugins package installed?16:52
mneptokand you have to actually remove the package with apt-get16:52
mneptoknot rm files16:52
LjLmneptok: it's installed, and yes i tried removing (purging) too later16:52
naliothflash = satan16:53
mneptoknalioth: please, don't disparage Satan16:53
* nalioth makes a note not to disparage mneptoks mother-in-law16:53
jpatrickmneptok: install gnash! report all bugs17:09
LjLflash might be bad17:09
LjLbut reading the bug report (which i refused to read until now) is really getting me agitated17:10
LjLPici: not as bad as statements as "The way I see it is: This is Ubuntu, not Kubuntu and as such Firefox is the default browser. Ubuntu should be concerned with Ubuntu. let Kubuntu deal with fixing Konqueror." for sure17:10
PiciLjL: I've heard quite a few statements like that in #ubuntu regarding the broken package.17:11
jpatrickLjL: which bug report?17:13
LjLjpatrick: bug #17389017:15
ubotuLaunchpad bug 173890 in flashplugin-nonfree "flashplugin-nonfree fails to install... new version?" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17389017:15
jpatricknot 'fixed released' yet? hmm17:16
LjLPici: as long as it's the casual user... but you see, people posting on launchpad ought to know that kubuntu is not some third-party derivative but a fucking part of main, and konqueror is the default browser on it17:16
LjLjpatrick: yes it's fixed released, it's just ubotu messing upo17:16
PiciLjL: I make no assumptions about LP's user populations.17:17
jpatrickLjL: Kubuntu rocks!17:18
LjLso what was the other free player besides gnash?17:20
LjL(also perhaps konqueror should ship with a Konqueror useragent, so perhaps people wouldn't say things such as "17:22
LjLI have reasonably-high volume sites to which I have stats access. Last I saw, The Hurd had more hits than Konqueror.")17:22
PiciWhat useragent does it have by default?17:22
LjLPici: safari IIRC17:22
LjLPici: well, actually, no it doesn't. i recall it doing it though, perhaps it's already been changed in gutsy or something.17:23
LjLMozilla/5.0 (compatible; Konqueror/3.5; Linux) KHTML/3.5.8 (like Gecko)17:24
naliothLjL: there are no other free players (in an OSS sense of 'free')17:33
LjLnalioth: hm i distinctly recall one though... perhaps in early alpha17:34
naliothLjL: if there are, they've not appeared on the radar yet . . .17:35
LjL!find swfdec17:37
ubotuFound: libswfdec0.3, libswfdec0.3-dev, libswfdec0.4, libswfdec0.4-dbg, libswfdec0.4-dev (and 4 others)17:37
Picihah, in #ubuntu: 12:36:57 <Riddell> ** if anyone is using gutsy and flashplugin-nonfree please ping me17:37
LjLnalioth: swf-player and swfdec-mozilla was what i had in mind17:38
naliothLjL: i don't think that works very well at all  :(17:38
LjLprobably not17:39
LjLnalioth: however it claims to play youtube (which gnash claims as well, but just failed to here)17:40
naliothi've compiled gnash and swf-whatever and only gnash halfway worked17:42
LjLwell ok it exists though17:42
LjL!no flashissues is <reply> The Flash plugin installation has been broken for some time. A fix has been released now, although it might not have yet reached all mirrors. If the update fails to install Flash, try « sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree ; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree »17:46
ubotuI'll remember that LjL17:46
naliothand then they can gamble on the fact that it has reached their mirror   :P17:56
PiciIts been a day...17:56
LjLit's reached the mirrors17:57
LjLi'm not sure about any konqueror fixes - if there is any17:57
PriceChildIts a tsmithe!18:29
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LjLneed to go for dinner, someone can tell this to tobias_ (not tobias) when he comes back19:23
LjLtobias_: if it's worked, now try again installing the headers, « sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) », then go on with the vbox setup. you can remove the old kernels, if the new one works - « dpkg -l | grep linux-image », and remove everything except for 2.6.22-14-generic19:23
LjLnevermind he just came back19:23
ubotuIn ubotu, pepperjack said: truecrypt is a free open-source on-the-fly disk encryption software see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TruecryptHiddenVolume19:28
Pici!truecrypt is <reply> Truecypt is a free open-source on-the-fly disk encryption software.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TruecryptHiddenVolume19:31
ubotuI'll remember that, Pici19:31
Picino0tic_: can we help you?19:52
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* jussi01 tickles Pici with an italian op19:54
no0ticPici, yes, bring me a working connection19:56
* jussi01 forwards no0tic to ##fixyourconnection :P19:56
ubotusub[t]rnl called the ops in #kubuntu ()20:20
naliothnot a nice character, that one  :(20:21
* Pici wonders if the people in #u+1 were sincere with their apologies.20:28
PiciGuess not.20:30
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=== no0tic_ is now known as no0tic
jpatrickfrom #k - ops is Help! - could we have that ops is removed?21:36
naliothubotu: list ops21:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about list ops - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:37
* nalioth can remove it, but doesn't know the exact syntax :(21:38
naliothand i don't want to remove _all_ the !ops triggers   :|21:38
no0ticnalioth, I think forget ops-#kubuntu should work21:39
jpatrickodd, according to the site it does have <reply>21:39
naliothyes, it has the same result as #ubuntu (ops nicks altered accordingly)21:39
naliothjpatrick: ubotu must treat you 'special'21:40
jpatrickah well21:40
LjLjpatrick, i thought i fixed that an hour or so ago?21:43
jpatrickLjL: ah, must not have seen it :)21:43
PriceChildSomeone's fixed it now?21:45
naliothPriceChild: we don't show it to be 'broken'21:46
PriceChildyeah i just checked and was fine21:47
* jpatrick watches "L" on #k22:06
LjLwow, that nickname is free22:07
LjLwell no not free22:07
jpatricknot much of a name either22:08
ubotuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join)22:09
ubotuIn ubotu, jpatrick said: !no, kde4 ies <reply>KDE 4.0.1 is the latest release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde422:10
m0nkhey guys, think today could be the day my ban is lifted?22:15
Jack_Sparrowm0nk: I looked at that after we talked yesterday.  I agree your attitude is helping, but that was NOT nice..  You are lucky it was him that banned you.  I personally would not have even considered lifting it for a month.  22:17
m0nkJack_Sparrow: i understand22:18
Jack_SparrowI kust hope you understand the seriousness of the problem22:18
jpatrick"16:25 < Jo71n_7_8471n> this if fun command `ls / -R > /dev/dsp`"22:18
m0nkJack_Sparrow: i do, and today i felt what it really is when people screw you over22:18
no0ticjpatrick, yes, indeed, is funny :)22:19
jpatrickno0tic: ah, right, I thought of something else22:19
no0ticjpatrick, and harmless, afaik22:19
m0nkno0tic: can i ask what exactly that does?22:19
LjLsomething not nice at night if you have the speakers on22:20
jpatrickno0tic: but.. just look at the nick, etc :P22:20
no0ticjpatrick, :)22:20
Jack_SparrowPumping all that data to the sound card... ugh22:20
* Pici shrugs22:21
no0ticJack_Sparrow, only dirs/files names 22:21
Jack_SparrowYea.. ALL of them22:21
m0nknever really thought of doing that interesting22:21
jpatrickJack_Sparrow: if you want that cat -R or something22:21
Picicat /dev/urandom22:22
Jack_SparrowNo thanks22:22
Jack_Sparrowm0nk: May I suggest you check back next week... I am sympathetic.. but I really have to side with others that have reviewed this.22:22
m0nkPici: i also find that funny to do from SSH when someone is using my computer22:22
m0nkJack_Sparrow: i can do that i guess22:23
Jack_SparrowThanks.. appreciate it22:23
m0nknext monday ok?22:23
Jack_SparrowSounds good, I will be here22:23
m0nkok 22:23
m0nkhave a good one22:23
Jack_SparrowEnjoy your weekend22:23
jpatricktoo late!22:23
Jack_SparrowNow Ljl can speak again...22:24
LjLyeah i spoke anyway but he didn't notice22:24
Jack_SparrowWas that ok to bump him to next week22:25
Jack_SparrowI do think he has learned his lesson, but not my decision...  I doubt he will ever be a problem again. once it is lifted22:26
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LjLnot me22:52
Garywhaaaaaaaa, it's a Seveas 22:52
mc44it's a Gary22:53
naliothit's a GAZZAK!22:53

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