[00:01] <ubotu> In ubotu, jdong said: jfuv is <reply>New or inexperienced users may find vim hard to master. Please do not insist on using a complex editor.
[00:02] <PriceChild> I promised I'd add it if he sent it through ubotu...
[00:03] <jdong> the chances of someone stumbling across this acronym.... ;-)
[00:03] <nalioth> what is jfuv ?
[00:04] <PriceChild> just use vim
[00:04] <nalioth> New or inexperienced users may find [vim|vi|emacs] hard to master.
[00:04] <nalioth> oh, i get it.
[00:04] <nalioth> a vim thing
[00:07] <PriceChild> nalioth, you are the only person I know to take the dong seriously.
[00:07]  * jdong points out to PriceChild that he should probably have thought over his wording a bit more carefully
[00:07] <PriceChild> oh for crying out loud...
[00:08]  * PriceChild goes to sit in the corner.
[00:10] <LjL> bit irritating this fellow, yeah.
[00:13] <Pici> !twss
[00:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twss - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:14] <LjL> !no | pici
[00:14] <ubotu> pici: Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[00:15] <Pici> takk LjL 
[00:15] <LjL> ingen orsak
[00:17] <jdong> lol
[00:46] <ubotu> astro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (iris)
[01:34] <jack> FYI-Sparrow here, just not on my normal box
[01:35] <LjL> who's fyi-sparrow?
[01:35] <jack> Cute, real cute
[01:36] <LjL> err what's up with snuxoll
[01:36] <LjL> i mean, i think we've discussed Creationist before in #kubuntu, and decided we could just leave him alone
[01:37] <LjL> but he's acting like an op in -ot
[01:37] <jack> HE was banned from #Mepis as well if memory serves
[01:37] <LjL> he snuxoll?
[01:37] <LjL> not to mention the kind of things he and goatz were saying before creationist joined
[01:37] <LjL> pretty ironic that he would jump on him methinks
[01:37] <jack> Sorry.. creationist
[01:38] <LjL> well fine, i do have him on highlight
[01:38] <LjL> still i don't think that nickname is worth much ado
[01:39] <LjL> kittie agrees
[03:35] <ubotu> DrDerek called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (ghettoxover)
[07:33] <crdlb> xnu is trolling
[08:21] <ubotu> astro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (xnu)
[08:30] <elkbuntu> Gary, you might want to check on xnu in #xubuntu
[09:19] <ubotu> astro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (ghetto)
[09:26] <ubotu> astro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (ghetto)
[11:46] <ikonia> !launchpad > ikonia
[11:47] <ikonia> guys, whats the status of the flash plugin issue - it's marked as "fix released" in launchpad and "closed"
[11:47] <ikonia> I can't get hold of Brendon but thought I'd see if I'd missed a release update.
[11:49] <jussi01> !flashissues
[11:49] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation has been broken for some time. A fix has been released now, although it might not have yet reached all mirrors. If that is the case for your mirror, please wait a couple of hours.
[11:52] <ikonia> what is the fix ?
[11:52] <ikonia> I can't see info on it, the bug for gutsy is just marked as closed
[11:53] <jussi01> ikonia: Im not sure - I guess you could grab the package from -updatesand have a look...
[11:54] <ikonia> the way I'm reading it the md5sum's have been updated....and thats it
[11:54] <ikonia> I hope I'm reading that wrong
[11:58] <Hobbsee> ikonia: why?
[11:58] <ikonia> as that's was the dirty fix that for months has been refused to be done
[11:58] <ikonia> it would be a shame if people have waited months for a fix that was refused, to then be done
[11:59] <Hobbsee> there's also a patch in kde* that makes it not break.
[12:16] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-us-ga, nomasteryoda said: ubotu what is ubuntu
[12:16] <jussi01> !bot > nomasteryoda
[12:30] <ikonia> Hobbsee: ahh I didn't see that in the change log
[12:32] <jussi01> !staff | [14:29] <abrakada> #LinuxChat on Dalnet needs some good company and good channel operators. wana join? type /server -m irc.dal.net and join #LinuxChat to see.
[12:33] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel or Gary,  I could use a bit of your time :)
[12:33] <Pici> Same person(s) have been spamming for a few days from various hosts.
[12:33] <jussi01> Pici: I know, i asked nalioth about it yesterday
[12:33] <jussi01> :)
[12:34] <jussi01> [14:29] *** abrakada [n=Agenomot@116.71.189.94]
[12:37]  * jussi01 hugs the staff. :D
[12:38] <elkbuntu> the loser even registered the nick
[12:38] <jussi01> elkbuntu: lol, unbeleivable
[12:38] <elkbuntu> oh, no, that was the kline
[12:38] <jussi01> oh
[12:38] <elkbuntu> no.. it wasnt... the idiot registered it
[12:38] <elkbuntu>  do /ns info abrakada
[12:39] <jussi01> hehe, kinda funny sometimes
[12:39] <jussi01> hehe
[12:40] <Pici> Well, makes sense, seeing that they're sending queries to people.
[12:40] <jussi01> anyway, Im off home. catch you all in a while
[12:40] <Pici> cyas
[13:02] <jussi01> Hobbsee: ping
[13:04] <Hobbsee> jussi01: pong
[13:04] <jussi01> Hobbsee: quick pm?
[13:04] <Hobbsee> sure
[13:35] <ubotu> Slart called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[16:34] <LjL> wonderful, wonderful... my flash *worked*, before the update.
[16:34] <jussi01> LjL: seems a lot of people are complaining of that
[16:35] <LjL> well, seeing as the update was so rushed out in fury, it's understandable that there might be some issues </sarcasm>
[16:36] <jussi01> LjL: dont worry, its got me _very_ annoyed. if you come across a fix, please let me know. 
[16:37] <LjL> jussi01: i don't know... when i dist-upgraded, it just seemed like it would try to use the flash that i had already in my cache, and which had the wrong md5, and so would leave it alone
[16:37] <LjL> but apparently it didn't leave it alone
[16:50] <mneptok> LjL: sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[16:50] <mneptok> she work again. :)
[16:51] <LjL> mneptok: not quite
[16:51] <LjL> sudo rm /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz ; sudo apt-get --reinstall install flashplugin-nonfree <- got it reinstalled
[16:51] <LjL> but it doesn't seem to have any intention of working in konqueror
[16:51] <LjL> it doesn't prompt me to install it anymore - but a flash app just gives me a gray box
[16:52] <mneptok> is the k-nsplugins package installed?
[16:52] <mneptok> and you have to actually remove the package with apt-get
[16:52] <mneptok> not rm files
[16:52] <LjL> mneptok: it's installed, and yes i tried removing (purging) too later
[16:53] <nalioth> flash = satan
[16:53] <mneptok> nalioth: please, don't disparage Satan
[16:53]  * nalioth makes a note not to disparage mneptoks mother-in-law
[17:09] <jpatrick> mneptok: install gnash! report all bugs
[17:09] <LjL> flash might be bad
[17:10] <LjL> but reading the bug report (which i refused to read until now) is really getting me agitated
[17:10] <Pici> might?
[17:10] <LjL> Pici: not as bad as statements as "The way I see it is: This is Ubuntu, not Kubuntu and as such Firefox is the default browser. Ubuntu should be concerned with Ubuntu. let Kubuntu deal with fixing Konqueror." for sure
[17:11] <Pici> LjL: I've heard quite a few statements like that in #ubuntu regarding the broken package.
[17:12] <jpatrick> grr
[17:13] <jpatrick> LjL: which bug report?
[17:15] <LjL> jpatrick: bug #173890
[17:15] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 173890 in flashplugin-nonfree "flashplugin-nonfree fails to install... new version?" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173890
[17:16] <jpatrick> not 'fixed released' yet? hmm
[17:16] <LjL> Pici: as long as it's the casual user... but you see, people posting on launchpad ought to know that kubuntu is not some third-party derivative but a fucking part of main, and konqueror is the default browser on it
[17:16] <LjL> jpatrick: yes it's fixed released, it's just ubotu messing upo
[17:17] <Pici> LjL: I make no assumptions about LP's user populations.
[17:18] <jpatrick> LjL: Kubuntu rocks!
[17:20] <LjL> so what was the other free player besides gnash?
[17:22] <LjL> (also perhaps konqueror should ship with a Konqueror useragent, so perhaps people wouldn't say things such as "
[17:22] <LjL> I have reasonably-high volume sites to which I have stats access. Last I saw, The Hurd had more hits than Konqueror.")
[17:22] <Pici> What useragent does it have by default?
[17:22] <LjL> Pici: safari IIRC
[17:23] <LjL> Pici: well, actually, no it doesn't. i recall it doing it though, perhaps it's already been changed in gutsy or something.
[17:24] <LjL> Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Konqueror/3.5; Linux) KHTML/3.5.8 (like Gecko)
[17:33] <nalioth> LjL: there are no other free players (in an OSS sense of 'free')
[17:34] <LjL> nalioth: hm i distinctly recall one though... perhaps in early alpha
[17:35] <nalioth> LjL: if there are, they've not appeared on the radar yet . . .
[17:37] <LjL> !find swfdec
[17:37] <ubotu> Found: libswfdec0.3, libswfdec0.3-dev, libswfdec0.4, libswfdec0.4-dbg, libswfdec0.4-dev (and 4 others)
[17:37] <Pici> hah, in #ubuntu: 12:36:57 <Riddell> ** if anyone is using gutsy and flashplugin-nonfree please ping me
[17:38] <LjL> nalioth: swf-player and swfdec-mozilla was what i had in mind
[17:38] <nalioth> LjL: i don't think that works very well at all  :(
[17:39] <LjL> probably not
[17:40] <LjL> nalioth: however it claims to play youtube (which gnash claims as well, but just failed to here)
[17:42] <nalioth> i've compiled gnash and swf-whatever and only gnash halfway worked
[17:42] <LjL> well ok it exists though
[17:46] <LjL> !no flashissues is <reply> The Flash plugin installation has been broken for some time. A fix has been released now, although it might not have yet reached all mirrors. If the update fails to install Flash, try « sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree ; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree »
[17:46] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[17:56] <nalioth> and then they can gamble on the fact that it has reached their mirror   :P
[17:56] <Pici> Its been a day...
[17:57] <LjL> it's reached the mirrors
[17:57] <LjL> i'm not sure about any konqueror fixes - if there is any
[18:29] <PriceChild> Its a tsmithe!
[19:23] <LjL> need to go for dinner, someone can tell this to tobias_ (not tobias) when he comes back
[19:23] <LjL> tobias_: if it's worked, now try again installing the headers, « sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) », then go on with the vbox setup. you can remove the old kernels, if the new one works - « dpkg -l | grep linux-image », and remove everything except for 2.6.22-14-generic
[19:23] <LjL> nevermind he just came back
[19:28] <ubotu> In ubotu, pepperjack said: truecrypt is a free open-source on-the-fly disk encryption software see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TruecryptHiddenVolume
[19:31] <Pici> !truecrypt is <reply> Truecypt is a free open-source on-the-fly disk encryption software.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TruecryptHiddenVolume
[19:31] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Pici
[19:52] <Pici> no0tic_: can we help you?
[19:54]  * jussi01 tickles Pici with an italian op
[19:56] <no0tic> Pici, yes, bring me a working connection
[19:56]  * jussi01 forwards no0tic to ##fixyourconnection :P
[19:56] <no0tic> :D
[20:20] <ubotu> sub[t]rnl called the ops in #kubuntu ()
[20:20] <stdin> handled
[20:21] <nalioth> not a nice character, that one  :(
[20:26] <PriceChild> Hmmmmm
[20:27] <Pici> ...
[20:28]  * Pici wonders if the people in #u+1 were sincere with their apologies.
[20:30] <Pici> Guess not.
[21:36] <jpatrick> from #k - ops is Help! - could we have that ops is removed?
[21:37] <nalioth> ubotu: list ops
[21:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about list ops - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:38]  * nalioth can remove it, but doesn't know the exact syntax :(
[21:38] <nalioth> and i don't want to remove _all_ the !ops triggers   :|
[21:39] <no0tic> nalioth, I think forget ops-#kubuntu should work
[21:39] <jpatrick> odd, according to the site it does have <reply>
[21:39] <nalioth> yes, it has the same result as #ubuntu (ops nicks altered accordingly)
[21:40] <nalioth> jpatrick: ubotu must treat you 'special'
[21:40] <jpatrick> ah well
[21:43] <LjL> jpatrick, i thought i fixed that an hour or so ago?
[21:43] <jpatrick> LjL: ah, must not have seen it :)
[21:45] <PriceChild> Someone's fixed it now?
[21:46] <nalioth> PriceChild: we don't show it to be 'broken'
[21:47] <PriceChild> yeah i just checked and was fine
[22:06]  * jpatrick watches "L" on #k
[22:07] <LjL> wow, that nickname is free
[22:07] <LjL> well no not free
[22:08] <jpatrick> not much of a name either
[22:09] <ubotu> FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join)
[22:10] <ubotu> In ubotu, jpatrick said: !no, kde4 ies <reply>KDE 4.0.1 is the latest release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[22:10] <jpatrick> ops..
[22:11] <jpatrick> s/ies/is
[22:15] <m0nk> hey guys, think today could be the day my ban is lifted?
[22:17] <Jack_Sparrow> m0nk: I looked at that after we talked yesterday.  I agree your attitude is helping, but that was NOT nice..  You are lucky it was him that banned you.  I personally would not have even considered lifting it for a month.  
[22:18] <m0nk> Jack_Sparrow: i understand
[22:18] <Jack_Sparrow> I kust hope you understand the seriousness of the problem
[22:18] <jpatrick> "16:25 < Jo71n_7_8471n> this if fun command `ls / -R > /dev/dsp`"
[22:18] <jpatrick> #u^^
[22:18] <m0nk> Jack_Sparrow: i do, and today i felt what it really is when people screw you over
[22:19] <no0tic> jpatrick, yes, indeed, is funny :)
[22:19] <jpatrick> no0tic: ah, right, I thought of something else
[22:19] <no0tic> jpatrick, and harmless, afaik
[22:19] <m0nk> no0tic: can i ask what exactly that does?
[22:20] <LjL> something not nice at night if you have the speakers on
[22:20] <jpatrick> no0tic: but.. just look at the nick, etc :P
[22:20] <no0tic> jpatrick, :)
[22:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Pumping all that data to the sound card... ugh
[22:21]  * Pici shrugs
[22:21] <no0tic> Jack_Sparrow, only dirs/files names 
[22:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Yea.. ALL of them
[22:21] <m0nk> never really thought of doing that interesting
[22:21] <jpatrick> Jack_Sparrow: if you want that cat -R or something
[22:22] <Pici> cat /dev/urandom
[22:22] <Jack_Sparrow> No thanks
[22:22] <Jack_Sparrow> m0nk: May I suggest you check back next week... I am sympathetic.. but I really have to side with others that have reviewed this.
[22:22] <m0nk> Pici: i also find that funny to do from SSH when someone is using my computer
[22:23] <m0nk> Jack_Sparrow: i can do that i guess
[22:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Thanks.. appreciate it
[22:23] <m0nk> next monday ok?
[22:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Sounds good, I will be here
[22:23] <m0nk> ok 
[22:23] <m0nk> have a good one
[22:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Enjoy your weekend
[22:23] <jpatrick> too late!
[22:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Now Ljl can speak again...
[22:24] <LjL> yeah i spoke anyway but he didn't notice
[22:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Was that ok to bump him to next week
[22:25] <LjL> yeah
[22:26] <Jack_Sparrow> I do think he has learned his lesson, but not my decision...  I doubt he will ever be a problem again. once it is lifted
[22:49] <Seveas> mc44!
[22:49] <mc44> who?
[22:52] <LjL> not me
[22:52] <Gary> whaaaaaaaa, it's a Seveas 
[22:53] <Seveas> sst
[22:53] <mc44> it's a Gary
[22:53] <nalioth> it's a GAZZAK!