[04:08] <^Elfboy> hi
[04:08] <^Elfboy> would some one know how o can set ftp so i can load thing and stuff to server
[04:09] <^Elfboy> or point me to something to read
[04:10] <ScottK2> Don't use ftp.  It's insecure.
[04:10] <^Elfboy> ok
[04:10] <^Elfboy> what shojuld i use
[04:10] <ScottK2> You can use sftp.  On ubuntu-server you just have to install the openssh-server
[04:11] <^Elfboy> openssh-server is install
[04:12] <^Elfboy> i can ssh in to server from laptoop
[04:12] <^Elfboy> useing locAL host
[04:12] <susscorfa> hi does anyone know a good way of backuping to a server without rsync on the destination
[04:14] <ScottK> ^Elfboy: Then if you have an sftp client on the laptop, you'll be able to use sftp.
[04:14] <^Elfboy> sftp in term
[04:14] <^Elfboy> is there a ugi
[04:14] <ScottK> That'll work or there are gui clients
[04:15] <^Elfboy> :)
[04:15] <ScottK> What is the laptop
[04:15] <^Elfboy> gentoo
[04:15] <ScottK> Gnome or KDE
[04:15] <^Elfboy> kde
[04:15] <ScottK> Konqueror will do it.
[04:15] <^Elfboy> ok
[04:15] <ScottK> sftp://url.of.server/
[04:16] <^Elfboy> ok
[04:16] <^Elfboy> let me try
[04:16] <ScottK> susscorfa: My first thought is install rsync.
[04:16] <susscorfa> i dont have admin rights otherwise i would have done that
[04:17] <susscorfa> scp ing a few gigs every time is not realy a option
[04:17] <^Elfboy> sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet
[04:17] <^Elfboy> ScottK:  thanks man
[04:17] <ScottK> ^Elfboy: You're welcome.  That'll work if you want to switch to Kubuntu too...
[04:18] <^Elfboy> cool
[04:18] <^Elfboy> :)
[04:19] <ScottK> susscorfa: I don't have a suggestion that doesn't involve having rights to install stuff on one end.
[04:19] <susscorfa> hmm ok ill look on
[04:28] <^Elfboy> ok back
[04:28] <^Elfboy> i have the sftp set up in server
[04:28] <^Elfboy> when i tryed to move fil i get access denied
[04:30] <^Elfboy> in server was there some thing i need to change ?
[04:35] <^Elfboy> ?????????????
[04:35] <^Elfboy> Sc
[04:35] <^Elfboy> ScottK: u around
[04:38] <ScottK> Yeah
[04:38] <^Elfboy> cool
[04:39] <^Elfboy> i got in the server  but cant remove or add anything
[04:39] <ScottK> Generally you access sftp as a normal user and copy onto the server in your home directory.  From there you can use sudo cp or sudo mv to put the files where you want them.
[04:39] <^Elfboy>  i get access denied
[04:39] <ScottK> You need to move stuff to where you have full rights.
[04:40] <^Elfboy> on gentoo i have rights to all
[04:41] <ScottK> That doesn't sound very secure.
[04:42] <^Elfboy> i change permasion in /home/user
[04:42] <^Elfboy> shold work
[04:42] <ScottK> And make sure you login in with the same user via sftp
[04:43] <^Elfboy> ?
[04:43] <^Elfboy> ohhh
[04:43] <^Elfboy> nm
[05:04] <^Elfboy> ok i give up
[05:05] <antdedyet> Evening.
[05:05] <^Elfboy> hi hi
[05:06] <^Elfboy> is there a better sftp then konr
[05:06] <^Elfboy> ose thats one is not working for mr to good
[05:06]  * antdedyet gets ready to find server release notes for ubuntu hardy alpha 4 
[05:07] <^Elfboy> lol
[05:08] <^Elfboy> im runing gentoo-kde
[05:29] <ScottK> ^Elfboy: It works great on Kubuntu, so I don't know what to tell you.
[05:30] <^Elfboy> beats me
[05:31] <^Elfboy> im o gentoo
[05:48] <^Elfboy> can some tell me where i can read on how to use term as sftp
[06:02] <antdedyet> ScottK: you are up for MOTU soon. Cool!
[06:40] <CrummyGummy> Hi all, I'm trying to upgrade my Feisty box to Gutsy. It keeps aborting with no error. Any ideas where to look?
[06:41] <nealmcb> wow - long server team meeting today - lots of good work - kudos to the team!
[06:46] <CrummyGummy> Maybe its got something to do with this. ->  sshd[27882]: fatal: Cannot bind any address.
[07:07] <faulkes-> thats interesting
[07:07] <faulkes-> what does ifconfig say about your network interfaces
[07:08] <faulkes-> unless you've told sshd to bind only to certain addresses, it should bind to loopback/localhost as well
[07:13] <CrummyGummy> I havn't restricted the binding to sshd. I'll put my ifconfig on pastebin. I don't think this is my real problem but I noticed that the advertised sshd on 9004 didn't work on my other box during upgrade.
[07:14] <CrummyGummy> I think that the problem is that nfs-common is being kept back. I'm not sure how to upgrade this.
[07:15] <CrummyGummy> I can't remove it because /var/cache/apt/archives is mounted on nfs.
[07:16] <CrummyGummy> http://pastebin.com/m61cf1d8e
[07:24] <faulkes-> well, yes, I think you can discount the sshd message, the network stack seems to be up
[07:24] <faulkes-> I take it nfs is on the 10 network
[07:24] <faulkes-> and /var/cache/apt/archives is mounted RO?
[07:26] <CrummyGummy> Yes its on the 10 network, no its rw,
[07:27] <faulkes-> ok, I'm new, so forgive me this question, is there a particular reason you can't remove it because it's mounted via nfs?
[07:30] <CrummyGummy> apt uses /var/cache/apt/archives which is mounted via nfs so I can't remove nfs-common. Or is that dumb?
[07:31] <faulkes-> I'm not an apt expert so I couldn't say
[07:32] <faulkes-> is there a reason you need /var/cache/apt/archives mounted via nfs or a particular reason for that setup?
[07:34] <CrummyGummy> Saves on bw costs. Its not a huge issue but its a saving non the less.
[07:35] <faulkes-> and you are doing what for the upgrade, "sudo apt dist-upgrade" or some such?
[07:36] <faulkes-> all these scientists really need to find better ways to make us healthy
[07:37] <faulkes-> because while I appreciate research showing that drinking 500ml of beet juice / day reduces blood pressure
[07:37] <faulkes-> ITS BEET JUICE
[07:37] <CrummyGummy> K, I've unmounted it so nothing is using it. nfs-common is still being kept back on dist-upgrade and upgrade.
[07:37]  * CrummyGummy shivers.
[07:37] <CrummyGummy> That sounds aweful.
[07:37] <faulkes-> is there a message associated with it being kept back?
[07:38] <CrummyGummy> DEBUG demoted: 'binfmt-support gcj-4.1-base gij-4.1 libgcj7-jar libglib1.2 liblzo1 libttf-dev libttf2'
[07:38] <CrummyGummy> ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.'
[07:38] <CrummyGummy> hmmm, that was an hour ago.
[07:38] <CrummyGummy> lemme look further.
[07:39] <faulkes-> no offense to the scientists but if they want to be taken seriously, they should be studying what health benefits a 3 martini lunch provides you
[07:40] <faulkes-> alot more people would buy into that kind of health diet
[07:40] <CrummyGummy> hehe, that sounds much better.
[07:45] <CrummyGummy> faulkes-: I removed it reinstalled it and the upgrades working now. Thanks.
[07:46] <CrummyGummy> it was a wierd dependancy problem...
[07:47] <faulkes-> not sure I really did anything but glad to help
[07:48] <CrummyGummy> lol, its way better than talking to a void...
[07:48] <avatar_> % sudo ufw status
[07:48] <avatar_> ERROR: problem running ip6tables
[07:48] <faulkes-> you're just lucky I can't sleep ;)
[07:48] <CrummyGummy> hehe
[07:49] <faulkes-> avatar: do you have ipv6 disabled?
[07:49] <avatar_> no
[07:50] <faulkes-> hrrmm
[07:50] <faulkes-> I havent really looked at ufw yet so
[07:50] <avatar_> faulkes-: ipv6 support was just committed tonight :)
[07:50] <faulkes-> iirc from the meeting today it is supposed to be functional with ipv6
[07:50] <avatar_> appearently with some bugs
[07:50] <faulkes-> apparently
[07:51] <avatar_> hmm, server meeting was yesterday right?
[07:52] <faulkes-> yes
[07:52] <faulkes-> what does  /sbin/ip6tables -L -n report
[07:53] <avatar_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/4281/
[07:54] <faulkes-> hrmm, so everything appears to be ok there
[07:54] <faulkes-> have you looked to see what the status argument is calling in ufw?
[07:58] <avatar_> no, i just updated en tried after reading my mail wich about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ufw/+bug/188934
[07:58] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 188934 in ufw "default ipv6 policy is block " [Medium,Fix released]
[08:01] <faulkes-> ah
[08:01] <faulkes-> not sure I can really help with it more than that
[08:01] <faulkes-> and I should crawl into bed so I at least get a couple hours of sleep
[08:02] <avatar_> goodnite :)
[08:02] <avatar_> i've just started my workig day :)
[08:02] <faulkes-> nite
[08:25] <kraut> moin
[08:26] <antdedyet> morning ...
[08:45] <kraut> where do i change the language, which dpkg uses for example for dpkg -l?
[08:46] <avatar_> with setting your 'locale' ?
[08:48] <kraut> avatar_: how with daper?
[08:48] <kraut> dpkg-reconfigure locale doesn't work
[08:49] <avatar_> set LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[08:50] <kraut> where do i configure that permanent?
[08:51] <kraut> locale shows me allways "LANG=de_DE.UTF-8"
[08:52] <avatar_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[08:53] <avatar_> with default locales configured in /etc/environment
[08:54] <kraut> ah, i found the error in /etc/environment
[08:54] <kraut> thanks
[10:01] <clusty> hey
[10:01] <clusty> having issues getting X running for the server
[10:02] <clusty> i am getting "no valid fontpath" fatal X erroe
[10:02] <clusty> is it misconfigured or missing packages
[10:50] <tjaalton> hardy install on an ESX-server guest went fine, using our server installation package set (646 packages)
[10:54] <soren> tjaalton: Awesome news!
[10:55] <soren> tjaalton: I don't see why it wouldn't work, but it's still nice to know :)
[10:56] <tjaalton> yeah, it's pretty straightforward
[10:57] <tjaalton> only thing that I'm normally nervous about is that if the package set installs, since one single package failing to install halts the whole thing :)
[10:57] <tjaalton> but it's mostly a desktop install issue anyway
[10:58] <tjaalton> (conflicts, migrations etc)
[11:01] <tjaalton> and when the next d-i image is built, we'll be able to use ssh-key based remote access to the machine, and monitor the installation logs remotely from a log server (thank you Google :)
[11:12] <nijaba> tjaalton: any tries with JeOS?
[11:13] <tjaalton> nijaba: no, it would need a special setup. What's special about it? Isn't it just a task which installs a minimal set of packages?
[11:14] <nijaba> tjaalton: the kernel also has a lot less drivers
[11:14] <tjaalton> ah
[11:14] <nijaba> and it seems we were missing some for proper ESX install on 7.10
[11:14] <nijaba> could not verify it though
[11:15] <nijaba> tjaalton: hence my request....
[11:16] <avatar_> tjaalton: you tried ons esx 3.5?
[11:16] <tjaalton> the problem is that the ESX frontend server isn't on public network, so I'm not sure how I'll be able to push the image there :)
[11:16] <avatar_> right now i'm installing a few ESX hosts for a customer
[11:17] <avatar_> i can spend a few minutes installing JeOS
[11:17] <nijaba> avatar_: that would be awsome !
[11:17] <tjaalton> nijaba: seems to be 3.0.2
[11:17] <avatar_> tjaalton: okay, i'll give it a try on esx 3.5
[11:18] <nijaba> \o/
[13:21] <zul> morning
[13:22] <ScottK> antdedyet: I am already a MOTU.  I'm up for core-dev (from the scrollback about 7 hours ago).
[13:37] <sommer> hey all
[13:39] <nijaba> hello sommer
[13:49] <ScottK> Hello sommer
[14:47] <ivoks> hi
[14:47] <ScottK> Hello ivoks
[14:48] <ScottK> ivoks: pitti gave me some hope I may have an answer on the amavisd-new MIR today.
[14:48] <ScottK> So maybe there's a chance to integrate it into the tasksel.
[14:50] <ivoks> great
[14:50] <ivoks> we can always add diff once it's accepted
[14:51] <ivoks> i would go with very basic setup with amavis
[14:51] <zul> hey ivoks
[14:51] <ivoks> zul: hi
[14:52] <ivoks> zul: umm... could you just brief me on drbd status in kernel?
[14:53] <zul> ivoks: its in the archive now
[14:53] <zul> as of 2.6.24-6 I believe
[14:53] <ivoks> it's just in -server kenel?
[14:54] <zul> generic as well I believe
[14:54] <ivoks> hm...
[14:54] <ivoks> oh, i'm on -5
[14:54] <zul> that could be your problem :)
[14:54] <ivoks> yeah...
[14:55] <zul> /lib/modules/2.6.24-6-generic/ubuntu/block/drbd
[14:55] <ivoks> interesting... i don't have -6, but i do have -5 in archive
[14:55] <ivoks> er... -7
[14:56] <ivoks> ok, first i'll deal with bacula :D
[14:58] <zul> 2.2.8 is sitting in merges.ubuntu.com so you might want to merge it first
[14:58] <soren> -6 failed to build.
[14:58] <soren> zul: Someone did that earlier today.
[14:58] <soren> norsetto, I belive.
[14:58] <soren> believe, even.
[14:58] <soren> MoM just hasn't run since then.
[14:58] <ivoks> zul: i already have merged them localy...
[14:58] <zul> nifty..
[14:58] <ivoks> i'm working on a diff that would sort some things out..
[14:59] <ivoks> i've talked with upstream about changes i'm planing to do, and they are ok with it
[14:59] <ivoks> we don't want -sqlite version in main, right?
[15:00] <ivoks> just -mysql and -postgresql?
[15:00] <soren> Why not -sqlite?
[15:00] <soren> I prefer that one. By far!
[15:00] <ivoks> so, we do want it?
[15:00] <ivoks> ok :)
[15:00] <soren> Why wouldn't we?
[15:01] <zul> we dont support sqllite dont we?
[15:01] <ivoks> cause for free you get whole sql :)
[15:01] <soren> Sure we do.
[15:01] <soren> It's just the command line interface for it, that's in universe (which is rather silly, if you ask me).
[15:02] <soren> libsqlite3-{0,dev,doc} are all in main.
[15:02] <soren> Er... sqlite3-doc. Not libsqlite3-doc.
[15:02] <avatar_> pff, vmware--
[15:02] <soren> I think sqlite is sexy.
[15:03] <avatar_> indeed, sqlite is nice.
[15:03] <ivoks> right, 2.2.8 is merged
[15:04] <ivoks> good to know that most of the ubuntu changes in bacula were accepted in upstream or debian
[15:24] <ScottK> lamont: I'm running your postfix 2.4.7 backport to Gutsy on my test server right now.  Upgraded and works without issue.  Thanks.
[15:25] <lamont> rock.  I'll push it back to the others then
[15:26] <lamont> ScottK: and then I just need to know what we're doing for 2.5.1... I figured I'd let Wietse move that past -rc1 before I upload it...
[15:26] <ScottK> Ah.  Right.
[15:27] <avatar_> fresh install of vmware esx. Create new guest, configure it to boot from hardy iso. Power on. Poof, crash :(
[15:27] <ScottK> lamont: I'd suggest pushing 2.5.0-1 to Sid/Hardy now and then updating to 2.5.1 when he releases it.  That way you'll get more 'feedback' if there are packaging issues to deal with at the same time.
[15:28] <lamont> good point
[15:28] <mathiaz> soren: any tought on the ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list used as a contact email for ubuntu-server LP team ?
[15:28] <mathiaz> soren: see my email on ubuntu-server from yesterday
[15:28] <lamont> which still gets back to "what did ScottK want me to do to postfix, again?" so I can put that into 2.5.0-1
[15:28] <ScottK> Right.
[15:28] <mathiaz> zul: ^^
[15:28] <lamont> I'll upload postfix this afternoon
[15:28] <soren> mathiaz: I've seen it and it looks reasonable.
[15:28] <lamont> evening
[15:28] <soren> mathiaz: In fact, it looks quite good.
[15:28] <ScottK> lamont: I'll ping you with some bug numbers in a few minutes.
[15:29] <lamont> ob nit.  how about if you ping me and then give me bug numbers. :)
[15:29]  * lamont ducks
[15:29] <zul> mathiaz: Ive looked and sounds good to me
[15:29] <lamont> bug numbers hurtseses when they bounce off my hull.
[15:30]  * ScottK regrets the lack of ordnance he used to have available when he was in the Navy ...
[15:31]  * faulkes- loves him some good ordnance
[15:32] <ScottK> Being Gunnery Officer on a 10,000 ton Cruiser was fun.
[15:32] <zul> its not size of the gun that counts its how you use it
[15:33] <zul> :)
[16:00] <faulkes-> hrm, some good ufw feedback on planet
[16:00] <faulkes-> or rather, positive feedback in it being liked and being human
[16:01] <ScottK> From a very prominent Ubuntu blogger too.
[16:22] <hsn_> how to resize ntfs partition?
[16:26] <hsn_> qtparted
[16:39] <ScottK> lamont: I sent you mail on postfix updates to your debian.org address.  Thanks to greylisting you don't have it yet, but it's in the air.
[16:40] <lamont> heh.  ok
[16:40] <lamont> d.o, u.c, c.c all come the same place in the end
[16:40] <ScottK> Right, just figured that was the most reasonable one to send it to since we're discussing Postfix 2.5 in Debian.
[16:41] <lamont> heh
[16:41] <lamont> ok
[16:41] <lamont> they're all just .forwards or aliases to lamont@m.c
[17:00] <ScottK> Well debian.org took the mail, so you should have it now.
[17:12] <^Elfboy> hi all
[17:17] <^Elfboy> im trying to install a psybnc on my server but i got this http://www.pastebin.ca/895189
[17:18] <^Elfboy> some take a look for me please
[18:36] <ikonia> q
[18:36] <ikonia> oops
[20:31] <zul> ScottK: ping
[20:31] <ScottK> Pong
[20:31] <zul> how well do you know the clamav maintainer in debian?
[20:33] <ScottK> We've had a not insignificant, but not steady dialogue.
[20:33] <ScottK> He takes some of my Ubuntu changes and tells me to get stuffed when I mess up.
[20:33] <zul> If I ask him about updating freeradius debian nicely how would he take it?
[20:34] <ScottK> I think he's not hostile to Ubuntu, but not extremely interested in it.  If you offered help/patches/etc, I think he'd take it well.
[20:35] <zul> is he on irc?
[20:36] <ScottK> sgran has been idle for 2 hours, 27 minutes, and 38 seconds.
[20:36] <ScottK> Sort of.
[20:36] <ScottK> (on OFTC).
[20:39] <zul> ok thanks
[21:38] <^Elfboy> is there a ftp serveer that will run so i can load  and get stuf odd the server
[21:41] <faulkes-> mathiaz: got a good response from forum council on the email, I believe you were cc'd
[21:42]  * ScottK waits for mathiaz to get it done so the bugmail stops.
[21:42] <ScottK> ... unwanted bugmail ...
[21:43] <^Elfboy> lol
[21:44] <mathiaz> faulkes-: yes - saw that. Look good ! Thanks for taking this task :)
[21:44] <mathiaz> ScottK: I've asked the creation of ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list.
[21:44] <ScottK> mathiaz: Glad to hear it.
[21:44] <mathiaz> ScottK: Once it's created, I'll update the LP configuration.
[21:44]  * ScottK nods
[22:08] <faulkes-> mathiaz: I'll work on the first part of what was discussed tonight so it can be reviewed and the forum council can act on it
[22:09] <faulkes-> I should have something fleshed out for tomorrow
[22:15] <mathiaz> faulkes-: excellent !
[22:50] <jcastro> Hi guys, is the likewise-open in dendrobates' PPA supposed to work?
[22:50] <jcastro> I just tried joining to a domain today and it gave me an error 0004 and was wondering if the package was ready for general consumption
[22:54] <faulkes-> I'm not sure on it's readyness (that doesn't it isn't, just that I don't know)
[22:54] <seany> has anyone had any luck getting LDAP authentication working in 7.10? i'm having a hell of a time getting local logins to work
[22:54] <seany> i want to say i'm hitting a issue with libnss-ldap, but i'm not really sure
[23:15] <faulkes-> jcastro, seany, I probably can't help directly but maybe if you put some more details about the issues you're encountering into the channel, one of the fine u-s members can pick it up
[23:16] <seany> i've set it up and it doesn't work :-p
[23:16] <seany> hold on let me type it up
[23:17] <seany> i'm fairly sure i've getting caught on this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libnss-ldap/+bug/155947
[23:17] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 155947 in libnss-ldap "ldap config  causes Ubuntu to hang at a reboot" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[23:18] <seany> i setup openldap +samba like i normally would have, and when i get to changing the pam stuff, when ever i reboot the machine it hangs after trying to login
[23:18] <seany> some times it will let me enter a user and pw, other times just a user
[23:18] <jcastro> faulkes-: well, I can't even find a log for the likewise thing, so I guess I'll just wait until it hits universe and give it a shot
[23:18] <seany> when it's in this state all of the external services are down, can't ping it, no ssh etc
[23:19] <mathiaz> jcastro: a new version of likewise has been uploaded to dendrobates' ppa
[23:19] <mathiaz> jcastro: and published about an hour ago
[23:19] <jcastro> ah
[23:19] <seany> booting into single user mode and starting things manually gets me to a place where things are usable, and i can fire off services one at a time to get things working, but that's not a solution
[23:19] <jcastro> mathiaz: I don't have an AD environment at home but I can get to one during lunch, I'll give it a shot tomorrow
[23:55] <mathiaz> jcastro: looking into the source code, your error code seems to be CENTERROR_DOMAINJOIN_NO_ETH_ITF_CFG_FILE
[23:59] <jcastro> mathiaz: I just installed the package and tried to join via the cli command, I must have missed a configuration step someplace
[23:59]  * jcastro failed to read documentation