ubotu | New bug: #189772 in mesa-utils (main) "[hardy] glxinfo uses 100% CPU" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189772 | 00:00 |
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ubotu | New bug: #150638 in linux-source-2.6.22 "framebuffer mode results in black screen starting with kernel 2.6.22-13-generic (dup-of: 129910)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150638 | 00:05 |
ubotu | New bug: #183869 in xorg-server (main) "mouse is not working after upgrading to hardy" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183869 | 02:49 |
tjaalton | bryce: whoa, you closed a couple of intel bugs :) | 07:22 |
bryce | :-) | 07:23 |
bryce | tjaalton: halfway to my goal of reducing -intel to <100 bugs | 07:24 |
tjaalton | I guess there are a lot of bugs on drivers which should really be against mesa | 07:25 |
tjaalton | DRI, 3D etc | 07:26 |
bryce | could be | 07:26 |
bryce | it's interesting how much easier it is working on bugs once they're cataloged properly | 07:26 |
tjaalton | right | 07:27 |
bryce | so like today since I'd finished with New, I just focused on bugs marked 'Incomplete' | 07:27 |
bryce | next time I'll focus on the confirmed ones and get them upstreamed | 07:28 |
tjaalton | or ask to try with hardy | 07:28 |
bryce | I did that a lot today | 07:28 |
tjaalton | yeah | 07:28 |
bryce | it was interesting just how large a portion of the bugs were plain old out of date | 07:28 |
bryce | sort of makes me think how unproductive a lot of the bug reporting efforts are - the bug report never gets seen upstream, yet the issue got fixed anyway, so the effort of reporting the bug merely generated work, with no benefit. | 07:30 |
bryce | not really their fault though of course | 07:30 |
tjaalton | I think our documentation should be changed to use 'lspci -nn | grep VGA', which should be enough. -vvnn creates too much noise | 07:31 |
tjaalton | thats partly because there are too many bugs open | 07:32 |
tjaalton | ..still | 07:32 |
tjaalton | so if we only had those that we are certain about, it would be easier to identify new ones and forward upstream | 07:32 |
bryce | yup | 07:34 |
tjaalton | having a release biannually doesn't really help :P | 07:36 |
bryce | in any case, I feel like we're making good progress with them | 07:37 |
bryce | I'd like to get to a point where I can focus on creating fixes more than just managing bug loads | 07:38 |
tjaalton | a reasonable goal indeed :) | 07:57 |
tjaalton | yay, we are below 1600 bugs (1580) | 07:58 |
bryce | nice; where is that totaled? | 07:59 |
tjaalton | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+packagebugs | 07:59 |
tjaalton | that's my start page when triaging | 07:59 |
tjaalton | bbl | 08:01 |
bryce | ah cool | 08:01 |
bryce | looks like most bugs are in lrm | 08:02 |
tjaalton | yeah :/ | 08:52 |
tjaalton | ati needs a cleanup as well | 08:53 |
tjaalton | maybe I should put the BTFH hat on and start bashing :P | 08:53 |
bryce | hehe :-) | 09:12 |
tjaalton | bryce: did you notice my comment about the bug list you showed me? only one of them has been tested against the ~latest driver, and the rest should be fixed according to upstream (I actually closed some of them) | 09:19 |
tjaalton | this was about intel vs. i810 | 09:19 |
bryce | oh cool, no I missed that | 09:20 |
tjaalton | so it looks like i810 could be dropped IMHO | 09:20 |
bryce | was that this page? http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogasawara/qa-hardy-list-archive/sort-by-package/current-buglist.html | 09:20 |
tjaalton | 12:04 < bryce> 114331 135093 147189 157610 16887 131972 and probably others | 09:21 |
tjaalton | nope, that :) | 09:21 |
bryce | ahh | 09:21 |
tjaalton | 147189 is the one that seems to be valid now, and I forwared it upstream | 09:22 |
bryce | ok | 09:23 |
bryce | there were some more 8xx ones I looked at in doing the triage today. I don't remember whether I asked for them to be re-tested or if they looked legit | 09:24 |
bryce | but yeah, I think we're getting close to being ready to deprecate it | 09:26 |
tjaalton | I asked Shaun (147189) to try the latest driver | 09:26 |
tjaalton | since it seems that the past week there has been some changes that should fix issues with i830 | 09:27 |
Ng | ooh, new -intel this morning :) | 09:38 |
bryce | heya Ng | 09:38 |
Ng | hey hey :) | 09:38 |
Ng | how evil am I for using EXA, greedy migration and "ExaNoComposite" "false"? | 09:39 |
Ng | seems to make EXA as nippy as XAA | 09:39 |
tjaalton | for me just the greedy stuff is enough (965) | 09:40 |
tjaalton | bryce: we actually toyed with the idea to use EXA only for 965 and use greedy :) | 09:40 |
tjaalton | this was on #ubuntu-desktop yesterday | 09:40 |
bryce | not a bad idea actually | 09:44 |
tjaalton | and XAA for the rest | 09:46 |
tjaalton | I'm not sure if it's doable, but.. | 09:46 |
bryce | yeah, I was wondering if that's feasible myself | 09:47 |
bryce | bedtime... night | 09:48 |
tjaalton | greedy makes it use CPU more, so I haven't tried what happens to the battery lifetime | 09:48 |
tjaalton | night! | 09:48 |
Ng | hmm | 09:48 |
Ng | there's something odd about the new driver | 09:48 |
tjaalton | Ng: oh? describe | 09:49 |
Ng | tjaalton: it's quite hard to describe, but things like the fading in of menus is more like a flicker | 09:49 |
Ng | and it almost seems like colours are made up of 8bit gif dithering | 09:49 |
tjaalton | hmm | 09:50 |
tjaalton | Ng: you had 945? | 09:51 |
Ng | nah this is 855 | 09:51 |
tjaalton | ah ok | 09:51 |
Ng | gonna try pulling out those options | 09:53 |
Ng | it's possible my eyes have just gone funny ;) | 09:53 |
Ng | no, that didn't help :/ | 09:54 |
Ng | going back to XAA doesn't seem to have helped either | 09:58 |
tjaalton | ok, so it seems like a regression then | 09:59 |
Ng | a pretty hard one to describe, but for example glxgears - the green gear looks like it alternates between light green dots and dark green dots instead of all of the pixels being a uniform green | 10:02 |
Ng | I should still have the old package, I'll give that a try again just to be sure I'm not mad | 10:04 |
tjaalton | hehe | 10:04 |
Ng | nope, definitely not mad :) | 10:06 |
Ng | 2:2.2.0+git20080107-1ubuntu2 is better | 10:06 |
jcristau | should be pretty easy to bisect then | 10:07 |
tjaalton | yes, since that version had all the commits up to ~Jan 31. | 10:07 |
Ng | filed as #189868 | 10:14 |
tjaalton | thanks | 10:15 |
tjaalton | looks like the only possible commit which broke this is "Allow non-strict free order for bo_list" a70b59bd44d14e77c9e522dbe225b62a8bcf3050 | 10:37 |
Ng | tjaalton: I'd be happy to test a build without that :) | 10:48 |
jcristau | Ng: git-revert a70b59bd; make :) | 10:48 |
tjaalton | Ng: I'll reply to the bug, 'patch -R < foo' should work too :) | 10:51 |
tjaalton | yeah, menus work fine on my 965 | 11:01 |
ubotu | New bug: #189863 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "[Hardy]Window borders are not drawn using fglrx" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189863 | 11:17 |
ubotu | New bug: #189868 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "regression in 2.2.0.90-2ubuntu2 on i855GM" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189868 | 11:17 |
Ng | bah, wgetting that git link downoads 30kb of html | 11:44 |
tjaalton | hmm? not here | 11:44 |
Ng | in a browser I get a patch | 11:45 |
tjaalton | 928 bytes | 11:45 |
Ng | this is a patch to i830_memory.c, right? | 11:46 |
tjaalton | yes | 11:47 |
Ng | it's not reverse applying cleanly. just looking at why | 11:47 |
tjaalton | it's not that huge either, so you can just edit by hand if all else fails :) | 11:48 |
Ng | I sure wish patch could tell me why though | 11:50 |
* Ng shrugs. visual inspections suggest I reverted it by hand fine, but the patch still doesn't apply. gonna build it and see what happens ;) | 11:53 | |
Ng | tjaalton: nope, still doing it without that patch, afaics | 12:00 |
tjaalton | bah | 12:00 |
tjaalton | Ng: look at the commits since the one 13 days ago, list found here http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=xorg/driver/xf86-video-intel.git;a=shortlog;h=xf86-video-intel-2.2-branch | 12:08 |
tjaalton | and apply one at a time on top of the working driver | 12:08 |
tjaalton | but I guess you don't have the sources anymore? | 12:08 |
tjaalton | you can find it here: http://users.tkk.fi/~tjaalton/dpkg | 12:10 |
Ng | cool, ta | 12:11 |
seb128 | is there a known bug about middle click events being duplicates sometimes on hardy? | 13:36 |
tjaalton | I don't remember seeing one | 15:01 |
ubotu | New bug: #189969 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "Newest revision (2.2.0.90-2ubuntu2) leaves garbage on screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189969 | 17:15 |
Ng | interesting | 17:16 |
Ng | that's 855 | 17:16 |
Ng | it's very distressing how many variants there are of each model. I've never seen anything remotely like that bug ;/ | 17:17 |
tjaalton | could be the same commit that causes the breakage | 17:35 |
tjaalton | Ng: even more important for you to find out which commit broke it :) | 17:41 |
Ng | tjaalton: yeah, I'll try and work through the patches this weekend | 17:48 |
tjaalton | hmm, I could forward it upstream in the meantime | 17:48 |
tjaalton | done | 18:21 |
Ng | cool, thanks | 18:33 |
ubotu | New bug: #36625 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "can't remove nvidia-glx" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36625 | 18:36 |
ubotu | New bug: #22297 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 "no icon for nvidia settings in gnome menu (dup-of: 44897)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22297 | 19:31 |
tjaalton | \o/ the only remaining bug regarding i830 is fixed with 2.2.0.90 | 19:36 |
tjaalton | so now we only have the regression with 855 :) | 19:36 |
bryce | whoohoo | 19:36 |
tjaalton | so, we could drop -i810 with 2.2.1 final | 19:37 |
tjaalton | I don't think it's of much value anymore, unless someone really insists on using xinerama | 19:37 |
tjaalton | going through lrm bugs btw.. man, there are plenty | 19:38 |
bryce | yeah | 19:39 |
bryce | when I was looking at fglrx the other day, I just searched on "fglrx" so I could focus on just that subset | 19:40 |
tjaalton | the good thing is that many bugs are marked against many lrm versions, so it's trivial to mark wontfix the old ones | 19:40 |
bryce | yup | 19:40 |
tjaalton | bug 36625 might have the information needed to finally fix the nvidia/fglrx uninstall issues.. | 19:41 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 36625 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 "can't remove nvidia-glx" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36625 | 19:41 |
tjaalton | (bumped the version, was against 2.6.17) | 19:41 |
tjaalton | seems like if mesa has been updated or tried another revision of the driver, this could happen | 19:43 |
ubotu | New bug: #190004 in xf86-input-evtouch (universe) "Please merge xf86-input-evdev 0.8.7-3 (universe) from debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190004 | 19:50 |
ubotu | New bug: #54335 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "fglrx should contain install instructions" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54335 | 19:56 |
ubotu | New bug: #54966 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 (restricted) "nvidia-glx boasts unnecessary dependencies" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54966 | 19:56 |
bryce | yeah | 19:58 |
bryce | after FF I want to really hammer on some bugs - hopefully I'll have this xrandr gui done by then! | 19:58 |
bryce | there's been a lot of people coming to us about keyboard and mouse problems... makes me think we need to look into that more seriously | 20:00 |
ubotu | New bug: #22255 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 (restricted) "Potential deadlock when the connection to the AP is lost?" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22255 | 20:02 |
tjaalton | we should switch to input-hotplug (=evdev).. :) | 20:02 |
tjaalton | ie. waiting for gravity | 20:03 |
ubotu | New bug: #48276 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "iwlist can make network tools unusable when it crash" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48276 | 20:06 |
ubotu | New bug: #158317 in compiz (main) "Random screen flicker on Dell Inspiron 9400 (dup-of: 164589)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158317 | 22:46 |
ubotu | New bug: #160747 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Random black frames (screen flickering) #7.10 (dup-of: 164589)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/160747 | 22:46 |
ubotu | New bug: #34017 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Include nvidia-settings and nvidia-xconfig" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34017 | 23:15 |
ubotu | New bug: #39082 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15 (restricted) "nVidia driver in dapper API mismatch" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39082 | 23:35 |
ubotu | New bug: #126251 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 "nvidia-settings menu item missing (dup-of: 44897)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/126251 | 23:46 |
ubotu | New bug: #149204 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 "[gutsy] Xorg crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/149204 | 23:57 |
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