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snarksterintelikey: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=720000:00
ubotuYou might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto00:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about compositor - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:02
ubotuCompiz-Fusion (and the older Compiz and Beryl) are window managers that employ the "composite" extension of X to draw windows using graphics cards' 3D hardware. They can additionally provide "desktop special effects" (such as the "cube") by means of plug-ins. Join #compiz-fusion for help and support with advanced features. See also « /msg ubotu compiz » and « /msg ubotu effects »00:02
savetheWorldAnyone here know the command to start a second X server up ?   it begins with "startx" but I cant recall the rest.00:05
geniiYou have to specify another default term like :1 since :0 will be in use obviously. The exact syntax however I forget at the moment00:07
dbglt-- :1 I think00:08
savetheWorldgenii:  thanks00:08
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savetheWorldstartx -- :1 seems to work00:11
ROOT_OF_ALL_EVILЧто вы думаете о КДЕ?00:11
geniisavetheWorld: Good :)00:11
genii!ru | ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL00:12
ubotuROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke00:12
FaiDillinGercan someone please help me set up my wifi lan with a rt61 chipset ???  i fucked up with knetwork manager, and now it wont show my any wifi networks00:13
FaiDillinGerand i am using an rj45 cable right now00:13
geniiFaiDillinGer: Remove any entries you may have made for it in /etc/network/interfaces and then knetworkmanager will not think it is a manually configured device00:13
FaiDillinGergenii : thx, but do i also have to remove things related to the 'lo' interface ?00:14
giovannidW SUSE00:14
ubuntuhallo, wer kann mir helfen00:14
geniiFaiDillveinGer: No, just wlan0 or whater it used for the adapter identifier00:14
FaiDillinGergenii : thx , yes its wlan100:15
genii!de | ubuntu00:15
ubuntumein kubuntu startet nicht mehr00:15
ubotuubuntu: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de00:15
FaiDillinGergenii : ill reboot and tell you about it, thx mate00:15
ubuntuoh sorry00:15
geniiFaiDillveinGer: np00:15
ddelonyHow do I deactivate my proprietary video card driver/00:16
FaiDillinGergenii: thanks mate it worked ... but i got another problem now lol00:17
ddelonyNever mind, found the menu option.00:18
geniiFaiDillveinGer: Well, ask the channel and see who may know the solution :)00:18
FaiDillinGerwell my problem is that my wifi connection will not work for more than 5 minute (rt61 chipset). has anyone been experiencing the same problems ???00:18
FaiDillinGeri know this problem came after a driver or something was upgraded00:19
BluesKajddelony, to uninstall it properly, it depends how you installed it ,00:19
geniiFaiDillinGer: Actually I've been having the same problem but with a realtek 8187, no solution I've found yet. Using a pc card Atheros for the moment00:19
aharoondoes kubuntu 8.04 has proplems or i can use witout any fear00:20
BluesKajFaiDillinGer, low signal output , perhaps ?00:21
geniiFaiDillinGer: What I know is NOT causing it: packet size differences between adapter/router/modem,  power savings settings on the adapter, whether wep/wap/open00:21
BluesKajaharoon, nothing is totally without problems but I've heard that the latest RC is pretty stable.00:22
FaiDillinGerBluesKaj: i dont think so. the router is just 2 meters away, but i got my brothers computer with the same pci card, thats under windows and not experiencing this problem00:22
arcticpenguin380are there other journalling fs00:22
FaiDillinGergenii: its a wpa network00:22
BluesKajhmm ... ok00:22
geniiFaiDillinGer: The same disconnect was happening for me no matter what authentication the access point used00:23
FaiDillinGergenii: exactly, i tried wep but i have the same problem00:23
aharoonok i meant kubuntu 7.10 working fine to me but i think 8.04 has kde4 instead of kde3 so i wanted to use it but i afraid of face proplems of rc00:23
geniiFaiDillinGer: If the adapter uses the sky or sky2 driver it may be somehow part of the problem00:23
FaiDillinGersky ?? i have no clue what this is00:24
geniiFaiDillinGer: But as I said, I have not yet tracked down exactly the issue and have resorted for now to using another adapter00:24
FaiDillinGergenii: well i am also using a cable for the moment, but it is in the middle of my room and i know i will step on it and fall at some moment lol00:25
arcticpenguin380is kde4 meant to be adopted now?00:25
Dr_willisarcticpenguin380,  i dont think so. Its more of a developers - testbed00:26
arcticpenguin380like mac os 10 was?00:26
soldanrHello Everybody! I have been struglin for the last 3 days with booting problems. Runing XP on SATA, Kubuntu on 20GB IDE Master and one 250MB IDE slave (added after installation). On the boot with GRUB I get the famous NTLDR missing, cause it is most likely trying to use the slave IDE instead of the SATA disk to find XP. I do thave the options of hd0, hd1, hd2 on grub but tried them all.00:26
soldanrDoes having Cable Select on the IDE causes that?00:28
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE00:28
geniisoldanr: Swap the position on the cables for the drives00:28
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE00:28
arcticpenguin380so when will kde 4 be meant for production then?00:29
soldanrok, will try00:29
geniisoldanr: Slave in middle, master on end of cable00:29
soldanrtahat is what i have00:29
geniisoldanr: Then instead check to make sure both have CS on, or else set manually 1 to master 1 to slave00:30
soldanrhave done that too, :)00:30
DillinGeris there a way to update the rt61 driver ?00:31
soldanri am going to check the links guys, brb... thanks00:33
geniiDillinGer: Well, you might try the method here if you feel up to it: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=2151900:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about reiser4 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:35
DillinGerthx genii i was googling for almost the same, but thats what i wanted00:36
geniiDillinGer: np ... let me know if it solves your issue or not, I'm an interested observer :)00:37
DillinGerok genii np00:37
CaptObviousokay so I'm trying to install the PS3 version from the alternate CD00:42
CaptObviousand I get a choice of 3 kernels to install00:42
CaptObviouslinux-cell and a couple of others - linux-cell errors when I try to install it00:42
CaptObviousis this a known issue?00:43
neo22How do I start a new session from the command line?00:44
neo22the switch user button isn't working.00:44
neo22xserver something right?00:44
Dr_willisIve spawned new X sessions with some sudo startx -- :100:47
Dr_willisor similer command.00:47
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aharoonwhat is ksniffer using for?00:50
genii!info ksniffer00:51
ubotuksniffer (source: ksniffer): network traffic analyzer for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1 (gutsy), package size 425 kB, installed size 1412 kB00:52
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aharooni used it and it some tcp and arp packets what is this mean00:53
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aharoonit showed tcp and arp00:53
geniiaharoon: If you don't know what it's showing to you then most likely it's not a program that you have a need for00:54
Daisuke_Idouh huh00:54
aharoonok im new to linux sorry00:55
Daisuke_Idothat applies to any os anywhere00:55
vsudilovanyone know a way to make konsole -truely- transparent, as opposed to this 'transparent-to-the-desktop' bull?00:56
aharooni thought its a program for stopping people who use programs for netcut and these stuff00:56
geniiaharoon: Mostly it's used by network admins to monitor packets on their systems00:57
aharoonok thanks00:57
Dr_willisvsudilov,  you have to use compiz for that.00:57
ahmosHi, i've installed superkaramba from repos. but i can't open themes that i've installed..00:57
vsudilovDr_willis: All right, I'm using it00:57
ahmosso any help plz?00:57
Dr_williscompiz can set arbitary windows transparent to different levels with some key combo/module.00:58
ubotusuperkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org00:58
vsudilovI'll look in their gui config00:58
Dr_willisHmm..  ahmos  ive never had good luck with karamba, or superkaramba00:58
ahmosme too like it seems00:58
DillinGergenii: i didnt manage to make ti work00:59
geniiDillinGer: :( I'm out of immediate ideas then, apologies00:59
DillinGergenii: np dude, just to let you know00:59
snarksterintelikey: any luck or to boring?01:00
* genii hands out another round of coffe... er beers01:00
snarksterbeer please01:00
* BluesKaj has a beer , but this is my last one :) ....ahem 01:00
snarksterlater dudes01:01
Daisuke_Idoi'll stick to coffee01:01
vsudilovhm anyone know the compiz option to make konsole transparent?01:01
geniiBluesKaj: Watching the Leafs game and drinking a Labatt 50 atm01:01
Daisuke_Idoit's not in compiz, it's in konsole's settings01:02
Daisuke_Idothat has nothing to do with compiz whatsoever01:02
vsudilovno -- that only gives it pseudo-transparency with the desktop01:03
vsudilovbut not transparency with any other windows01:03
vsudilovie, I can't read this irc chat while using the "transparent" konsole01:03
Dr_williscompiz can make anything transparent - to different levels. :)01:03
Dr_williskonsole has a 'pesudo-transparency' feature that shows the existing wallpaper.01:04
vsudilovexactly, which is useless O.o01:04
Dr_willisvsudilov,  or usefull...01:04
sethvsudilov, start konsole with the --real-transparency switch01:04
Dr_willisI find your true transparency useless. :) since it makes stuff hard to read.01:04
starenkahi anybody can help dig out kde401:04
sethvsudilov, i.e. "konsole --real-transparency"01:04
Dr_willisa special switch! :) heh - there ya go.01:04
vsudilovseth: lemme try that now01:04
Dr_willisI wonder if some extra X features need tobe enabled for that.01:05
vsudilovseth: sweet, that was easy!01:05
starenkahey :)01:05
starenkasbdy can help?01:05
Daisuke_IdoDr_willis: it would appear that no one actually *uses* the real transparency stuff, it's like geek street cred for screenshot artists01:06
starenkaadded kde4 src to source list01:06
sethstarenka, KDE4 is in #kubuntu-kde401:06
Daisuke_Idostarenka: try in #kubuntu-kde401:06
starenkaoh sry then01:06
starenkahavent seen the channel01:06
sethread /topic for great justice01:06
starenkatry before cry, right?01:07
mathieu_up me01:08
vsudilovhm -- can't seem to append the option --real-transparency to konsole when it launches from a key-binding01:10
biovorevsudilov: I made a kde menu entry for it.. and tied the short cut key to it..01:11
vsudilovright, I have that too. But, it still doesn't use the --real-transparency option01:11
vsudilovbiovore: it uses this option with your configuration?01:12
deurytedoes anyone know the master comman line to fix a crashed kubuntu desktop ??01:12
sethdeuryte, if kwin just died, Alt + F2 >> kwin01:13
deurytewhat is kwin ??01:13
sethdeuryte, other than that you'll have to be more specific on what you mean by crashed desktop01:13
tekteendeuryte: the k window manager01:14
geniideuryte: There is no "master command line" something that will make everything magically fine again. The first thing to finding your solution is to have more information on how/why it crashed in the first place and then proceed from there01:14
vsudilovGAGGGEGAHG why are simple GUI tweaks so difficult ???01:15
deuryteseth: i went and changed a setting in the bios to start my sata in "raid" mode, all went well, but i decided to reset it back to "ide" mode, then it would only boot to a command line mode. no kde01:15
biovorevsudilov: I made a new menu entry (basicly copied the kconsole entry already there) and append the --real-transparency option.  Then I tie that menu entry to a short cut key (Ctrl-Shift-K here)01:15
biovorevsudilov: The command for my menu entry is  konsole --real-transparency01:16
neo22Is there compositing in hardy heron?01:16
biovoreKDE4 has it built in..01:16
neo22After upgrading to hardy.01:16
osama plz want to know how to create a cd with mulitiple content as vedio and text with nice menu?01:17
osama[03:15] [Error] plz: Unknown command.01:17
deuryteseth: i even tried " su -i/etc/iniy.d/kdm"   didnt work after command "startx"..01:17
neo22kde4 is saying it's not finding xcomposite or something01:17
biovorenvida card? you have composite enable in xorg.conf01:17
neo22oh, did my xorg.conf get reset?01:17
deuryteseth: it seems it wont recognize my ati 9200se vid card..01:17
vsudilovbiovore: Thanks, that trick works on my machine too. Funny that you have to make a dummy konsole shortcut...01:19
* genii hands seth the Advil01:19
sethgenii, ?01:19
geniiseth: Headache remedy, I suspect deuryte's issue will occupy you for a while ;)01:20
sethdeuryte, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" should get you back on track01:20
deurytethanks seth:01:20
sethif you're just not getting into KDE but you're booting properly01:20
deurytebrb will try01:20
sethdeuryte, when it asks you to choose a driver, try the radeon driver01:21
sethif that doesn't get you in, let me know what /var/log/Xorg.0.log has to say01:21
BluesKajtoo late, my suggestion was going to be the default restricted driver in system settings/advanced01:22
BluesKajmost lower end radeons will benefit from the older default restricted driver01:23
sethBluesKaj, yeah, I just figured try the lowest denominator first and we can worry about bumping it up once he can get into kde01:24
geniiseth: I suspect he is getting a busybox since he was messing with switching from raid to ide in his bios01:24
geniieg: initramfs fallthrough01:24
setharg :P if that's true i'm not going to be of any help. was just going off what he said above, that there was an error about the ati card01:26
genii[20:15:30] <deuryte> seth: i went and changed a setting in the bios to start my sata in "raid" mode, all went well, but i decided to reset it back to "ide" mode, then it would only boot to a command line mode. no kde01:27
sethdeuryte>seth: it seems it wont recognize my ati 9200se vid card..01:28
geniiseth: I think he may be confused LOL01:29
MGrundeI'm having trouble with one of my reiserfs drives, reiserfsck returns "Bad root block 0. (--rebuild-tree did not complete)"01:29
geniiseth: At any rate if he has actual shell and it's just complaining about some video issue hopefully it will progress01:30
sethgenii, yeah, we'll see01:30
* seth plays Sola Rola while waiting on him01:31
* genii sips his beer01:33
geniiHis reboot seems to be taking a while01:34
CaptObvioushow do you set the resolution on boot?  like the kubuntu loading bar screen res?01:38
geniihoax: to switch to a channel use /j #channelname01:39
geniiCaptObvious: Something like a kernel option vga=<something>01:40
CaptObviousI did that already and it's still 1280x102401:40
geniiCaptObvious: Then offhand no idea01:41
superdude2435sound not working, tried everything,anyone have any suggestions?01:45
sethsuperdude2435, what card01:46
seth(or what type of onboard)01:46
superdude2435hold a sec01:46
superdude2435how would i check?01:47
BluesKajsuperdude2435, or : lspci | grep audio01:49
superdude2435Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)01:49
batis610how can i change opening file with one click to two clikcs??01:50
BluesKajsuperdude2435,  asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"01:50
Dragnslcrbatis610- System Settings -> Keyboard and Mouse -> Mouse01:51
draikHello all01:58
geniisuperdude2435: You are using an intel HDA card. Please see ubotu link shortly02:01
genii!intelhda | superdude243502:01
ubotusuperdude2435: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto02:01
draikHow do I put an AVI video compilation onto a DVD?02:01
draikAs video, not data.02:02
* genii is starting to hate the 82801DB/DBL/DBM audio chipsets02:02
belorixHey, i have Kubuntu 7.10 and was wondering how to install restricted drvers for nvidia02:06
belorixI also experiance random Freeze ups02:06
draikbelorix: Is should be ready for you in System Settings > Advanced (tab) > Restricted Drivers.02:07
belorixWith Kubuntu how do i enable all repos02:09
draikbelorix: Adept Manager > Adept > Manage Repositories02:10
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belorixNow what could be causing me random freezeups02:11
draikbelorix: type /sysinfo02:11
draikSysinfo for 'Lair': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz at 3216 MHz (6432 bogomips), HD: 460/766GB, RAM: 2270/3035MB, 137 proc's, 32.53min up02:12
Daisuke_Laptopstupid k9copy segfaulting :\02:12
draikWhat are your specs? Something must be slow.02:12
draikDaisuke_Laptop: My whole laptop is doing that02:12
Manadhello...anyone here have an idea why my torrents on Kubuntu are so slow when they were much faster on Windows? Even the same torrent running from 2 different machines (using the same internet connection) is much slower on Linux. I can't seem to go above 20kb/s download.02:12
draikDaisuke_Laptop: I can't run my games and such. I don't want to do it all over again.02:12
ManadI'm using deluge02:13
paule118Die Fehlermeldung lautet: 13.02:13
draik!ru | paule11802:13
ubotupaule118: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke02:13
Manadand it's not port-forwarding, I did that and it passes Deluge's port-forwarding test02:13
maduserin ktorrent I had to change some settings before it was fast02:14
madusertorrents as well can be very slow02:14
maduserstuff with the upload and download rates02:14
maduserset my upload to 10kbs02:14
paule118 Fehlermeldung : 13.02:15
draikKTorrent is set to no limits on up/down speeds02:15
maduserbut if you upload at a high speed it will slow down your download02:15
paule118 Fehlermeldung : 13.02:15
Manadno, it's not that. I reduced the upload speed to 50% of my connection. I also set it to 10% while troubleshooting.02:15
ManadI'm not new to torrents, I'm new to linux02:16
maduserI rember reading this stuff for configuration for utorrent for fast speeds02:16
belorixnow draik, What do i look for in sys info02:17
draikCan someone tell me how to get an AVI into DVD format?02:17
draikbelorix: type           /sysinfo            in the channel. We will all see your computer specs.02:17
biovorehttp://www.linux.com/feature/53702 <-- how to convert a avi into a DVD02:18
belorixSysinfo for 'belorix-desktop': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: AMDAthlon643500+ at 1000 MHz (2005 bogomips), , RAM: 431/439MB, 118 proc's, 16.22min up02:18
draikbiovore: Thank you :)02:19
draikbelorix: How many megs is the VRAM?02:19
draikbelorix: Video RAM. How many megs of RAM does the nVidia card have?02:20
ubotuPowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ02:21
batis610in kde4, how can i change the fact that i havn't icons of all oppened windows in all desktops in the current desktop panel?02:21
Daisuke_Laptopbatis610: ask in #kubuntu-kde402:22
belorixHi, how can i get desktop-effects or compiz02:27
barbara_can I add locations to the system menu that is on the panel?02:28
barbara_I want to add my documents02:28
crackhead_25--how do i set the QTDIR variable ???02:29
CaptObviouskubuntu for some reason isn't starting up kde on boot, how do I tell it to?02:30
tininHi, I need to get some .deb packages to install kubuntu in a machine without internet, How could I do it?02:35
dsmith_biovore: What happened to MD LUG?02:35
biovorewhich LUG?02:36
CaptObvioustinin: USB key02:36
dsmith_Ubuntu MD02:36
dsmith_Sysinfo for 'dsmith-laptop': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz at 3000 MHz (6000 bogomips), HD: 34/167GB, RAM: 1963/2026MB, 179 proc's, 3.6h up02:36
biovorenot sure..02:36
biovoreI hear stuff on the email reflector but I never see anyone in the IRC channel02:36
dsmith_i saw the message from Craig..02:36
belorixhow can i get the clock to come outof military time02:36
tininI mean how could I download packages with dependencies to a usb key? CaptObvious02:36
tininI'm trying to use a Virtualbox to see wich packages I need02:37
Dr_willisbelorix,  right click on the clock - 'time and date settings' set it to use am/pm mode.02:38
tininwith a default kubuntu02:38
Dr_willisand YES.. i think it should default to am/pm also. :)02:38
CaptObviousif you don't know how to put files onto a USB key, you have no business running linux02:38
dsmith_belorix: date & time format02:38
maduserwhy not military time?02:38
Dr_willisYou need to restart the clock.02:38
Dr_willismaduser,  because 90% of the clocks in my house are NOT set to military time.. so why should this one.02:38
dsmith_maduser: some ppl canot add 12 to anything02:39
Dr_willisand given the target audiance of ubuntu/kubuntu -  - Keep things simple.02:39
biovorestop using those 4 letter words.. MATH.. evil02:39
dsmith_well with flying I have to know UTC02:39
maduserlinux, however is not for retards02:39
CaptObviousright, Dr_willis02:39
CaptObviousthe real issue02:39
tininwoah  Apt On CD is what I was searching...02:39
geniiDr_willis: You have me intrigued as to the other 10% of your clocks now02:39
CaptObviousI have kubuntu on my PS302:39
CaptObviousdefault install02:39
CaptObviousit just doesn't seem to be launching kdm on boot02:39
dsmith_genii: heheh02:40
CaptObviousI can launch it fine with startx02:40
CaptObviousbut I have to log in via the console first02:40
Dr_willisgenii,  i'm into shortwave/ham radio. :) some of them are set to UTC. :002:40
Dr_willisgenii,  then ya got the clock thats made of ball-bearings going around on a ramp. :)02:40
geniiDr_willis: Aaaaaah Ok :)02:40
biovoresame here.. I use qsstv for slowscan TV :-P02:40
tininCan you have 3d graphics in ps3 CaptObvious?02:40
CaptObvioustinin: no02:40
tininBut is it possible?02:41
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CaptObviousDr_willis: /etc/X11/default-display-manager is set to /usr/bin/kdm02:42
xeviousi just installed artsbuilder in 7.10 and it crashes whenever i try to execute02:42
CaptObviousit doesn't error or anything, it just doesn't seem to try to launch it02:42
tininhttp://kotaku.com/346073/ps3-megabox-homebrew-project-is-linux-for-commitment+phobes CaptObvious02:42
CaptObviousthere's a kdm in /etc/init.d02:42
tinin3D Linux gaming02:43
tininEmulation of games of almost all the platforms02:43
tininPossibility of launching PS3 games directly from MegaBOX02:44
CaptObvioustinin: I don't care02:44
tininsorry, I'm want to buy a ps3, I'd like to know how well kubuntu would run on it02:45
CaptObviousvery well if I could just get this working02:46
geniiCaptObvious: If you do sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart               does it give any useful information?02:46
geniiOr does it start kdm?02:46
CaptObvioussed: -e expression #1, char 32: unterminated 's' command02:46
biovoresed -e s/thing/replace/02:47
biovoreneeds a / on the end probably02:47
MGrundeDoes dd_rhelp/dd_rescue copy the entire partition, freespace and all, or does it only copy files?02:47
geniimaybe script error in the kdm startup02:47
CaptObviousshould I just remove then reinstall kdm?02:47
CaptObviousor is it just the init.d script that's broken?02:48
geniiCaptObvious: If biovore is right may be some break in the init.d script. But perhaps try the: sudo apt-get remove --purge kdm;sudo apt-get install kdm              then try again starting it02:49
CaptObviousdammit - where is repository info kept?02:50
CaptObviousit wants the CD and I want to remove that from sources02:50
geniiUsually in /etc/apt/sourcs.list02:50
geniibut the ps3 kubuntu may vary from the usual02:51
geniitypo from me. /etc/apt/sources.list                <- was missing an "e" in sources02:51
CaptObviouspackage kdm is not available but is referenced by another source02:52
tininCan I run ubuntu ppc in a virtual machine in my 86 pc?02:52
CaptObviousheh, there's no network interfaces defined02:53
CaptObviousyet there were before02:53
CaptObviouslspci returns nothing02:53
CaptObviouslike, absolutely nothing02:53
biovoreCaptObvious: PCI sounds broken..02:56
geniiI don't know anything much about the ps3 kubuntu02:57
biovoretinin: maybe.. have to use qemu to emulate a PPC platform.. Not sure if it would work though..02:57
Dr_willisOther then the fact tht i see a LOT of people asking questions about it - due to their problems. :P)02:58
CaptObviousokay, networking is up :P02:58
tininbiovore thanx, I was trying with virtualbox, as it seems easier. I just need to download some text to speech ppc packages to use with a live cd, but I need to take care of all dependencies02:59
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CaptObviousokay I got kdm reinstall03:04
CaptObvioussame error03:04
CaptObviousis there any way to regenerate the script in /etc/init.d?03:04
CaptObviousor could I just copy it from another machine?03:04
CaptObviousokay, new error now03:07
CaptObviouson /etc/init.d/kdm restart03:07
CaptObviouscannot create /var/run/kdm/Xaccess03:07
barbara_can I add locations to the system menu that is on the panel?03:09
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barbara_CaptObvious: use sudo03:10
CaptObviousthen I get the sed error03:11
CaptObvioussed: -e expression #1, char 32: unterminated 's' command03:11
CaptObviousthat's after copying the init script from another machine03:11
Manadif I have a Samba share, would Windows clients be able to read shares that are on non-NTFS drives?03:12
CaptObvioussamba is a protocol in itself03:12
Manadso it's just like FTP or HTTP then? I don't have to worry about the filesystem?03:12
CaptObviousscrew it03:13
CaptObviousI just added startx into my .profile03:13
Manadok then, question 2...how can I format an NTFS drive and be able to use it in linux? What tool does this in KDE suite?03:14
ManadI meant, repartition it as ext303:14
ManadI know I can mount NTFS drives03:14
CaptObviousManad: ext2fs -j /dev/sda103:14
CaptObviousobviously replace /dev/sda1 with the drive you want to wipe03:15
CaptObviousthe -j means ext3 instead of ext203:15
Manadext3 is what all the cool people use, right?03:16
CaptObviousit's the norm03:16
hydrogenext3 is ext2 + journal03:19
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Eko_Hermiyantohi.. I have Ubuntu and install KDE in my Ubuntu, how I can upgrade my KDE into the latest one?03:20
Eko_Hermiyantoi have type apt-get upgrade03:20
Eko_Hermiyantobut result nothing03:20
NightBirdEko_Hermiyanto: do you mean install kde 4?03:20
ManadCaptObvious: "ext2fs" command not found03:21
ubotuKDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde403:21
CaptObviousthat's what it is in gentoo, not sure in kubuntu03:21
Manadyou sure that exists in Kubuntu by default? I have 7.1003:21
hydrogenno it isn't..03:21
NightBirdkubuntu 7.10 defaults to kde3.503:21
NickPrestaEko_Hermiyanto, do you want to use KDE 4.0.1? Personally, I would still have 3.5.8 around.03:21
hydrogenuse mkfs.ext303:21
NightBirdyou can set it up to be able to run kde4 as well03:22
hydrogenor mke2fs03:22
NightBirdwhich should be that first link03:22
hydrogenext2fs has never been a command on any distro03:22
Manadthink you need 8.04 for kde4. But I'd recommend waiting, that's what all the sites say (even KDE themselves), it's very early in terms of features.03:22
Eko_HermiyantoNightBird: yes03:22
Eko_HermiyantoNickPresta: I love to get it03:22
Manadhydro: mke2fs /dev/sda5           ??03:22
NickPrestaManad, you can get KDE 4.0.1 in Gutsy (and it will be available by default in 8.04)03:22
* NightBird uses kde4 without problems03:22
ManadI meant mkfs.ext303:22
hydrogenmke2fs -j /dev/sda5 or mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda503:22
NickPrestaEko_Hermiyanto, check out the !kde4 factoid.03:22
NickPresta!tell Eko_Hermiyanto about kde403:23
CaptObviousI have a weird problem with my machine with a radeon 900003:23
CaptObviousit's way too bright, like the gamma is too high03:23
CaptObviousthe livecd is the same03:23
NightBird!kde4 Eko_Hermiyanto03:23
NightBirdwell bah03:23
NightBirdoh well03:23
NightBirdit's earlier in the chat though03:24
NickPrestaNightBird, I asked ubotu to PM him the KDE4 factoid :)03:24
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NightBirdthe only thing I really miss in kde4 is for something to display the current cpu and ram usage...03:25
NightBirdI'm sure there's something  somewhere for it, but I haven't found it yet...03:25
hydrogenksysguard has been ported03:25
NickPrestaNightBird, I would just use a SuperKaramba widget. I believe it has (or is getting) a KDE4 update03:25
hydrogenalt-f2-> show system activity03:25
NightBirdhydrogen: I mean something to appear in the task bar :P03:26
hydrogenwhy would you use superkaramba?03:26
Manadhydrogen, the mkfs.ext3 command finished, but the drive does not show up in "Disks & Filesystems" as ext3 yet, it's empty. Do I need to reboot the OS?03:26
Eko_HermiyantoNightBird: oh thanks, i get a way to install the new kde into my ubuntu. thanks dude03:26
CaptObviousreal men use top03:26
hydrogentheres a system monitor plasmoid03:26
Goop2is there a good synth with a GUI that works with ALSA?03:26
hydrogenbut its still in early development03:26
hydrogenhanging out in playground03:26
NightBirdCaptObvious: yeah, but I already have like 4 konsoles open already >_>03:27
Manadif I have 2 ext3 partitions, one full, one empty, can I merge them without losing the data on the one that's full?03:29
Bandithow can i tell which sound device my mic is in kubuntu ?03:29
CaptObviousyou want to do JBOD?03:29
CaptObviousactually, can linux treat 2 ext3 partitions on seperate disks as 1 large partition?03:30
CaptObviousor 3 on 3 seperate disks?03:30
hydrogenwith LVM03:31
hydrogennot by default03:31
CaptObviousthat'd be useful for my fileserver03:32
CaptObviousmind you03:32
CaptObviousyou can mount a volume in any directory, right?03:32
CaptObviousso I could have a whole separate disk mounted in ~/downloads03:32
CaptObviouslike windows can with NTFS03:33
NightBirdyou can make any file systems mount point be anywhere in linux...  like I have a 60 ext3 partition set up as my /home directory, while my / directory has 40 gigs to use elsewhere03:34
hydrogen mm03:35
hydrogenI have a -8.0 zetabyte drive for my /home03:35
Manadhydrogen, i have my new ext3 parttion ready, but Disks & Filesystems shows it as disabled. How do I enable it without restarting the computer? I set a mount point, so it's just a matter ofenabling.03:36
Manadthe GUI has no such option03:37
Manadexcept "enable at startup"03:37
NightBirdManad: try mount <directory it will mount too>03:37
NightBirdfrom a console03:37
CaptObviousmount /dev/hda1 /mnt/whatever03:38
hydrogenyou will need to be root03:38
hydrogenor use sudo03:38
NightBirdyeah... so if you're mounting the partition to the path /lol the command would be "sudo mount /lol"03:38
Manadallright, that worked! Thanks! :P03:38
ManadI knew abount Mount but thought "enabled" would be a hardware thing unrelated to mount03:39
CaptObviousyou could put it in your fstab for the future03:39
NightBirdCaptObvious: I think that's pretty much what he did do with a gui03:40
NightBirdthough, if it provided a way to create it, I find it odd that it wouldn't also provide a mechanism to mount it now03:40
Manadyeah, it's not very intuitive03:41
Manadbut I guess the newbie user (ie me if you guys weren't helping me) would know that he can restart the pc to mount it03:42
toyo|deskhey all03:44
CaptObviousI just rebooted03:44
NightBirdeh... that's one of those habits that you have to try to break new people of that habit03:44
CaptObviousand kdm launched03:44
CaptObviousoh dammit, wrong machine03:44
CaptObviousthis was the one that worked anyway :P03:44
NightBirdyou should rarely have to restart linux03:44
CaptObviousI rebooted to plug HDDs back in :P03:44
toyo|deskso I dont know who all was here last night when I was talking about my USB 2.0 issue that I have03:45
NightBirdat least compared to windows... the only time I find that you have to reboot in linux is for a new kernel install03:45
toyo|deskbut the tip I tried to correct it just helped it for a while03:45
toyo|deskit still kills the hard drive after a while03:46
CaptObvioushal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 100003:46
CaptObviousI take it that means I need root :P03:46
toyo|deskto mount the drive?03:46
CaptObviousto browse it03:46
Manadis it possible a USB hard drive will fail to mount on Linux? I detect it just fine, but it syas "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000"03:47
toyo|deskright click it hit properties03:47
toyo|deskclick mounting03:47
toyo|deskuncheck mount as user03:47
toyo|deskthat worked for me03:47
toyo|deskon my ntfs part03:47
toyo|deskof my external03:47
Manadthat worked03:47
Manadwhy doesn't it do that by default? how is the average guy supposed to know?03:49
toyo|deskI had to look around on the internet for a long time for that tip03:50
toyo|deskI think it only has to do with ntfs partitions03:51
toyo|desker sorry ntfs partitions on external drives03:51
toyo|deskanyway dose anyone know where the ubuntu/kubuntu devs chill?03:53
crimsun"away from IRC".03:53
toyo|deskkernel devs specifically03:54
DreadKnighttoyo|desk: #ubuntu-dev03:54
crimsunagain, away from IRC.  They do chat in #ubuntu-kernel during USA business hours.03:54
geniitoyo|desk: Likely the employee lounge at Canonical03:54
Manadsorry to keep asking questions, but I wanted to share a folder with a Windows computer and was under the impression Kubuntu came with Samba. If I go to System Settings > Sharing it warns me that "SMB server is not installed on this machine"03:55
bigdad1ehi everyone. i am having a problem with uncompressing hldsupdatetool.bin can someone help me?03:55
DreadKnightManad: sudo apt-get install samba    i guess :P03:55
ubotuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.03:55
Manadthanks for the link03:56
bigdad1eive been at it for 3 hours now reading up on everything and nothing seems to be helping me at all.03:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about uncompress - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ncompress - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:57
geniibigdad1e:  ./hldsupdatetool.bin03:57
bigdad1etried it doesnt work03:57
geniibigdad1e: What message does it give when you try that?03:58
bigdad1ebigdad1e@bigdad1e-desktop:~/gameserver/srcds$ ./hldsupdatetool.bin03:58
bigdad1ebash: ./hldsupdatetool.bin: No such file or directory03:58
bigdad1eits in there03:58
ubotuwebmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead.03:58
Daisuke_Idois the capitalization right?03:58
ubotuebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See the plans for Hardy at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EboxSpec03:59
bigdad1eits all lowercase03:59
geniibigdad1e: Is that the actual dir it is in?03:59
geniibigdad1e: The next thing which comes to mind is that is IS executing, but the program is looking for some file or directory which does not exist in the places it looks.04:00
morticiis there anyway to set a permanent DNS server setting, so that i don't have to enter it every time i boot up the pc?04:00
CaptObviousbigdad1e: sudo chmod +x hldsupdatetool.bin04:01
bigdad1etried that too04:01
CaptObviousmortici: sudo nano /etc/hosts04:01
CaptObviousoh wait04:01
geniibigdad1e: I mean that the progam called hldsupdatetool.bin is running. But then part of what it does when beginning to operate is look for something which does not exist04:01
morticiCaptObvious: thats for the host file04:01
CaptObviousDNS server setting rather than DNS entry?04:01
bigdad1enothing comes up when i put that command in04:01
CaptObviousdo you not get DNS server by DHCP?04:01
CaptObviousbut anyway04:01
CaptObvioussudo nano /etc/resolv.conf04:01
morticithanks :)04:02
morticii do04:02
morticibut i want different DNS servers :)04:02
bigdad1eim lost right now and its starting to get the best of me lol04:02
morticiwell it says the changes will be over written04:02
morticidoesn't help me much there04:03
morticiis there a permanent location else where?04:03
CaptObviousyeah, wherever network interfaces are defined in kubuntu04:03
* CaptObvious thrashes 3 hard drives at once04:03
Picimortici: add this to /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf: prepend domain-name-servers xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx;04:03
morticiwhen i set it there they disappear04:03
bigdad1egenii: can you pm me04:03
morticiPici:  you are god :)04:04
Picimortici: mine is like this for OpenDNS: prepend domain-name-servers,;04:04
CaptObvious"Fetched 11.6MB in 6s (1687kb/s)" <304:04
morticiPici: did you comment out domain-name-servers in the request field?04:05
Picimortici: No, I didnt.04:05
morticithis works with dhcp awsome04:05
morticieven better04:06
Piciyep yep :)04:06
morticiis there a way for a manual setup to do the same thing, IF i wanted to eliminate DHCP and set static routes?04:06
geniibigdad1e: I'm not here much longer. try: sudo apt-get install lib32gcc1                    then after try to run the file again by: ./filename04:06
geniieg: ./hldsupdatetool.bin04:07
hydrogenis there a version of acrobat reader for linux?04:07
bigdad1ethat worked04:08
joh6nnany search i run in apt-cache has lots of blank lines mixed in with the output, and once the search is done, bash acts like i held down the enter key; anyone know what might cause that?04:08
bigdad1ethanks alot04:08
bigdad1eyou saved my computer from a firey grave lol.04:08
bigdad1eyou have a wonderful day or night depending on where ever you are located. but thank you soo much.04:09
bigdad1elife saver04:09
geniibigdad1e: np. Have a good night04:09
geniiSee everyone later <passes coffees out to all>04:09
bigdad1egood night everyone and thank you for all your help.04:09
morticithere has to be a location to set the settings perminately for the manual configed address....04:10
hydrogenor let me rephrase that.. how do I get acrobat reader in kubuntu?04:10
Dragnslcrhydrogen- kpdf should be installed by default04:11
joh6nnhydrogen: do you want acrobat specifically, or just something to read pdfs?04:11
hydrogenI need acrobat04:11
hydrogennot a pdf reader04:11
hydrogenacrobat reader*04:11
hydrogennot any pdf reader*04:11
hydrogento clarify04:11
DragnslcrIs there some specific pdf file that isn't being displayed correctly in kpdf?04:11
hydrogenIt is an interactive pdf04:12
hydrogenand kpdf can't handle04:12
hydrogenand okular is misbehaving for me :/04:12
DragnslcrAdobe's site might have a Linux version available04:12
DragnslcrIf not, you could try using wine04:12
joh6nnthere's one in the repositories, i think04:12
hydrogenadobe has an rpm..04:13
posingaspopularsigh, okay so I was messnig with knetworkmanager, now all my setting are wrong04:13
hydrogennot seeing anything in apt04:13
posingaspopulari cant even scan for networks anymore04:13
hydrogenbut I wasn't sure if it was hidden somewhere04:13
posingaspopularis there a way to revert everything I did?04:13
joh6nnhmm.  guess not04:13
joh6nni thought there was04:13
joh6nnwell, like Dragnslcr said then, check the adobe site04:14
joh6nnanybody have any guess what would make apt-cache start spitting out blank lines in any search?04:15
ubuntusomeone please help me, this live CD messed up up my MBR and i cant get back into windows, my windows CD wont even boot04:17
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thesiegeany ideas guys?04:17
thesiegeim on a live cd and i tried downloading ms-sys but i cant compile it04:18
joh6nnUbuntu: thesiege what do you mean, the cd won't boot?04:18
draikHow do I clear my CLI history?04:19
Dragnslcrdraik- you can clear out ~/.bash_history04:19
joh6nndraik: you mean erase the history so no one can see what you did, or just clear the screen?04:19
thesiegemy xp cd wont boot04:19
draikClear out everything I've typed04:19
joh6nnthesiege: you said that.  i'm looking for error messages, or at the least a little more detail04:20
draikthesiege: I think you're in the wrong channel04:20
hydrogentype `clear`04:20
hydrogenor `reset`04:20
draikClear only clears the screen. Reset didn't do it.04:20
thesiegeerror 2104:20
thesiegefrom grub04:20
thesiegewhen i tried installing ubuntu from the live cd to a removeable HDD i got this error after reboot04:21
thesiegenow only the live cd works04:21
reaperdragonhey ktorrent wont start up any advice04:21
morticistart it in konsole04:21
morticiand see what the error is04:21
reaperdragonit says already started04:22
draikI read that wrong. I swore reaperdragon said "kTorrent won't start up any devices"04:22
joh6nnthesiege: open up /boot/grub/menu.lst04:22
reaperdragonbut it's not in my start bar04:22
reaperdragonlike it use to be04:22
* draik thinks it's time for lasik eye surgery04:23
thesiegeok, id do that how?04:23
joh6nnthesiege: pick any text editor, and just browse to that file04:23
joh6nnonce you've got it open, scroll down to the bottom04:23
reaperdragonktorrent is showing in my bar04:23
reaperdragonis not04:24
thesiegeok im there04:24
joh6nnthesiege: the entries down at the bottom, that make up the menu, they should all have lines that say something like "root            (hd#,#)"04:26
draikQDVDAuthor is taking too long. Is there an alternative to putting an AVI as Video DVD that will not take 3+ hours04:26
thesiegeyeah i see them04:26
joh6nndoes it say "root          (hd0,0)" ?04:26
thesiegethe last one does04:27
thesiegethe windows one04:27
thesiegebut the first one has root(hd1,0)04:27
joh6nndo you have windows and linux on separate hard drives?04:28
joh6nnor are they on the same drive?04:28
thesiegewell i was trying to put linux on the removable hdd04:28
thesiegeand currently i am on a live CD and windows is on  the internal hdd04:28
joh6nnso they're on different drives?04:29
thesiegetechnically yes04:29
draikYay... 3 hours and 11 minutes... yet again for the past x minutes04:29
joh6nnhave you moved the drives around since you tried to install?04:29
thesiegewell, not really, like i said, i only have 1 internal drive, and then i have my external drive04:30
joh6nnjust for kicks, type "mount" in a terminal, and PM the results to me04:31
thesiegeit says im unregistered, i cant pm04:33
thesiegeits right there04:33
unagii think im ready to remove gnome and stick with kde.........but im worried it might remove something i need/want04:35
joh6nnpaste in all the menu entries from grub, too.  just for the hell of it04:35
joh6nnunagi: so leave it be for now?04:35
joh6nnor do you need the space?04:35
bigdad1ecan someone help me with setting up an ftp server?04:36
unagii dont NEED it but i rarely switch to gnome anymore04:36
unagii mean like im so  use to using gedit04:36
unagithough i like kate04:36
unagiis there a page that shows a translation of progs from gnome to kde?04:36
biovorejust run your gnome program in kde..04:37
unagiif i remove gnome it removes all gnome based progs right?04:37
bigdad1ehow hard is it to set up an ftp server?04:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ftpserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:39
bigdad1e!ftp server04:39
ubotuFTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP04:39
biovorenope.. install proftpd or wu-ftp04:39
ubotuFTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd04:39
biovoreor one of thoes others04:39
bigdad1eand it will set it up so other people can connect to a seleted folder and upload files to it from their home or business?04:40
thesiegeanything joh6nn?04:40
DreadKnightbigdad1e: you are asking for a ftp-server :P04:40
biovoreFTP is sorta of a problem because its plain text..  try sftp  (winscp on windows)04:41
joh6nnthesiege: looking now04:41
biovoreshould work if you have ssh installed04:41
bigdad1ei installed proftp and gproftp doesnt seem to like me to much?04:41
Lthreethreeteejust use ssh04:42
unagiuse html\04:42
DreadKnightssh is cool xD04:42
bigdad1essh for ftp server?04:43
joh6nnthesiege: what drive are you trying to boot from?04:43
ubotuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/04:43
biovoreIs ssh is installed you can sftp into the box..  (passwords not in plain site that way, more secure)04:44
thesiegei would like to boot the windows drive hda104:44
bigdad1ewill people runing windows be able to access the files?04:44
biovoreif they have winscp installed.. yes04:44
ses59i installed a 32bit adobe reader and now it is messing up opening pdf files but i can not find a way to apt-get to uninstall it any suggestions on how to remove the bad program?04:44
bigdad1ei need something they wont need anything but an ftp client to connect to04:45
ses59i have a 64 bit kubuntu running04:45
joh6nnthesiege: which drive are you actively attempting to boot from?04:45
joh6nnbigdad1e: i strongly recommend forcing them to use an sftp client, rather than an ftp client.  or is that not an option?04:46
thesiegejoh6nn: im not sure i understand the question04:47
bigdad1eit is but im new to linux and i dont know how to install all of these programs04:47
thesiegei told my bios to boot from the internal HDD04:47
joh6nnthesiege: and that's the drive that windows is on?04:47
bigdad1ejoh6nn: can you show me?04:47
Lthreethreetee!apt | bigdad1e04:49
ubotubigdad1e: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)04:49
joh6nnthesiege: i understand exactly what happened, but i don't know how to explain it.  basically, you've bitten off more than you can chew, and it's more than i can help you with at 10 till midnight, with work in the morning04:49
joh6nnwhat happens when you try to boot your windows CD?04:49
bigdad1ei know the basics of apt and aptitude sudo but configuring the ftp server is what i dont knwo what to do with04:49
albertolempirahey guys i have a dumb question... Can i have some desktop effects (like Compiz Fusion) on  KDE 4 ¿?04:50
thesiegeit says inspecting systems hardware and then nothing happens04:50
biovorealbertolempira: there built into kde404:50
draremhow can I copy my current kde session to a test one, dont want to mess up current one04:50
joh6nnbigdad1e: i'm gonna go to bed in a second, but if you hop into #ubuntu i'm sure someone there will be able to help04:50
biovorejust have to turn them on.. there not that fancy yet..04:50
thesiegedont worry, i can come back tomorrow, its not that important04:50
morticialbertolempira: yes, right click on the window and select window behaviour you can enable special effects from there04:50
joh6nnall right, i'm tired04:52
thesiegethanks man04:52
albertolempiramortici: thanks!04:53
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Vermyndaxhey all05:09
VermyndaxI am having a really weird problem05:09
VermyndaxI *just* installed Kubuntu 7.1005:09
Vermyndaxfrom the DVD05:09
_2all is not here right now.  can we help ?05:09
Vermyndaxlogin to my desktop05:09
Vermyndaxand it says there's a distribution upgrade... huh?05:10
VermyndaxI just installed the newest05:10
Vermyndaxand adept refuses to update packages05:10
Vermyndaxhmmm now that I've rebooted, X won't start05:11
Vermyndaxany idea why it would tell me there is a distribution upgrade and start loading the dist upgrade tool?05:12
_2and that's a fresh install....   i think i will wait and let "all" handle that one...05:12
Vermyndaxyeah it's a fresh install... totally bizarre05:12
Vermyndaxnow I'm in the command line doing an apt-get upgrade/update05:12
Daisuke_Laptopit tells you there's a distribution upgrade and loads the upgrade tool because adept is bugged.  it's now been bugged for four months.05:12
Vermyndaxso let's see what happens now05:12
Daisuke_Laptopand NOTHING has been done to resolve this.05:12
VermyndaxDaisuke_Laptop: wow... so, what's the method for updating then?05:12
Daisuke_Laptopgod i love kde05:12
Vermyndaxwow that really, really sucks05:13
VermyndaxI am in command line updating it now05:13
VermyndaxI was going to load KDE 4.0.1 just to see it anyway05:13
toyo|deskare there any kde apps for adjusting the cpu frequency05:15
Vermyndaxrebooting now let's see what happens05:15
Vermyndaxproblem is... evolution drives me nuts, which is why I prefer kde05:16
Vermyndaxwell, that seems to have fixed it05:16
VermyndaxI am in the splash now05:17
draremif I right-click -> remove panel from kde3, how can i get it back05:17
draremis there just an easy way to create a new session based on kde3 and test with that05:19
_2new session ? logout  drop to a console and run#  mv ~/.kde ~/.backup_kde    # log back in.05:20
_2is that what you mean ?05:20
draremyes, so it shows up in my session list and I can select it05:20
VermyndaxI am a sadist05:21
Vermyndaxhere comes kde4-core05:21
_2oh kdm option...     errr not sure what to say there05:21
_2what i said will reset your kde session to defaults  but wont add an option that isn't already in kdm.05:22
Vermyndaxanyone else here using kde 4.0.1?05:22
_2i'm not even using X05:23
_2drarem if it remember rightly, you can add an entry in /etc/X11/sessions/ something....   errr been to long.05:24
_2i think i have several dirs in /etc that apt didn't remove when i cleaned my system05:30
Vermyndaxnot impressed05:36
_2a hoe-ax ?   isn't that a multi-purpose gardening tool ?05:39
_2sort of like a pick-ax ?    only it's a  hoax    :)05:40
wastedfluidMay sound stupid; but I can not figure it out for the life of me.  Does anyone know how to disable this OSD of messages with Kopete... when I get a message, it pops up these annoying OSD's of it.. and I've looked all in the configure dialog, and can't find it.05:41
_2thought i'd look up [pbflush] and see if i wanted it on my box or not.   found this thread http://lists.samba.org/archive/linux/2004-February/009679.html    laugh a minute06:07
Carutsuhey why can't i use the pop3:/ kioslave, it asks if i want to open it with kmail instead of just logging in06:18
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_2[17187201.872000] Device 'vesafb.0' does not have a release() function, it is broken and must be fixed.06:21
Eko_Hermiyantomy KDE 4 works good in Ubuntu... oh yes baby06:21
Carutsuanyone knows what I'm talking about... at least :P06:22
_2Carutsu about email access via konqueror it looks like.  but what happens if you just navigate the ip    not use the kio ?06:25
Carutsuwhat do you mean, writting foomail@fooserver ?06:25
hydrogenthat wouldn't work06:26
Carutsunop it tries to send a mail _206:26
_2ah it's mimed.  k06:26
Carutsu_2: it seems06:27
Carutsuhydrogen: any clues why it doesn't "just work"TM ? :P06:27
hydrogenCarutsu: kmail is probably set as your pop3 handler06:28
hydrogenhigher than konqueror06:28
Carutsumm, perhaps... lets see06:28
Carutsuthank you all, I'll try to solve it at a later time06:29
_2i really think that this box could do without all of these   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d208d741406:30
_2an i wonder where my ps went....06:32
Carutsuhydrogen: mm I wasn't able to find pop3:/ in konqueror's dialog, as far as I can see it just manages files06:32
Carutsumime tipes06:32
_2true: /bin/ps: No such file or directory06:33
_2!find /bin/ps06:34
ubotuFile /bin/ps found in procps06:35
hydrogenwhat did you do!06:35
_2hmm ?06:35
_2oh i just installed procps06:36
hydrogenwhy did you uninstall it? Oo06:36
_2caues i cleaned this system06:36
_2for Q in `dpkg -l | grep 'ii ' | cut -d' ' -f3` ;do apt-get -y --purge remove $Q ;done      <<<<  i ran that.06:37
Smutthey what f button do i press to boot my laptop from cd drive06:38
hydrogendoesn't that uninstall everything you have?06:38
NightBirdSmutt: depends on the bios...06:38
_2hydrogen no.06:38
_2skipps everything marked "essential"06:38
Smuttim trying to install kubuntu and f10 and f8 not working06:38
NightBirdSmutt: you may need to set it to boot by default by getting into the bios options, or you may have the ability to declare a one time boot from06:38
NightBirdI've seen F1, F2, F8 and Escape all being buttons to do special things with the bios06:39
Smuttits an asus f3 series laptop...anyone else here have an asus?06:39
_2hydrogen but if one adds --force-yes   then it does what you were thinking06:39
NightBirdI have an asus06:39
Smutthow to boot it from cd drive06:39
NightBirdI have to use the F2, but there is no guarantee that that will be sufficient06:39
Smuttwats this force thing u guys speak of....i dont wanna do it by mistake?06:39
Smuttf2 and f3 should have same boot load button06:40
NightBirdI hit F2 to open the bios, change the boot order to have the cd drive be boot from before the disk06:40
Smuttalright kool06:40
Daisuke_Idoi've also seen tab and delete as major bios keys06:40
Smutti guess ill try that06:40
Smuttwat button shoudlnt i push because might nuke my drives06:40
NightBirdyeah... there is no real standard in how to enter bios configuration...06:40
_2Smutt you wont force the package manager by mistake.   if you do it, it will be intentional.     it always is.06:41
Smuttdamn...they need a damn standard06:41
Smuttlol ok06:41
Smuttcya all ill be back on kubuntu hopefully06:41
Daisuke_Idowow...  looks like they got flash fixed.06:41
_2daisuke yeah del is very common06:42
Daisuke_Ido!fr | mirador06:42
ubotumirador: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:42
miradorje suis nouveau sous kubuntu06:42
Daisuke_IdoVersion < clever.06:43
* NightBird goes to bed06:43
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_2well they may have fixed flash but they have not fixed "tzconfig"06:49
_2not on the LTS anyway06:50
_2when i power down, i'll check the hardware clock from bios and make sure it is set to utc06:51
_2i'm pretty sure it is though06:51
Daisuke_Ido_2: tzconfig is fine on the newer releases - don't know why they wouldn't backport it06:57
_2me either06:59
djdarkmanhello, there was a kde4 update this morning, did it contain the kicker custumization?07:12
djdarkmanohhh soorry, never mind07:13
djdarkmandidn`t see the topic07:13
kunal_there is no kicker in KDE407:13
djdarkmanok, I dont know how it`s called07:14
djdarkmanI was referring to the panel...07:14
Eko_Hermiyantothere is somewhat like kicker in the panel07:15
Eko_Hermiyantokickoff is the name07:15
djdarkmankickoff is the name of the new fancy kmenu....07:16
Eko_Hermiyantothe new kde is amazing07:17
ethan961the panel was disappearing on me, and I couldn't find the executable name to launch it again07:17
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RcommanderHi guys I need some help configuring Kubuntu on my Asus g1s07:19
RcommanderOn my Asus g1s in Gnome ubuntu all my FN keys works fine, however in Kubuntu they don't seem to work right??07:20
Patrick13251I'm trying to install some nvidia drivers on Kubuntu 7.10 and having issues shutting down x properly.  Does anyone have a moment to help?07:23
Rcommanderpatrick what kind of computer do you have?07:23
Patrick13251Homemade Intel Dual core, installed the 64 bit kernel07:24
Rcommanderwhats the mobo?07:24
Rcommanderi mean brand07:24
Patrick13251I think asus with an nvidia chipset07:24
Rcommanderok do you have 4GB ram?07:25
Rcommanderyou need to update the bios, what is happening is that older Asus bios' cannot map the north bridge correctly, download the bios for your mobo that says "support for Penryn CPU' or "memory issue fixed"07:26
Rcommanderyou should be fine07:26
Patrick13251Ok, is there a place I can get more info about this?  And thanks for the help by the way.07:26
Rcommanderum no i had to do this for mine...if you google they have a kernel patch or something...but i ain't savvy enough to install it07:27
apparleCan I update my repositories without net07:27
Smutthi all im new to kubuntu...where do i go on kubuntu to connect to a wireless network...im on laptop07:30
apparleI donot have net at home but I want to upgrade my repositories. can I do that07:41
Patrick13251Apparle, I sent you some messages directly.  Did you get those?07:46
Patrick13251Apparle, I haven't tried it but have you looked here? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31002007:48
apparlePatrick13251: I did not geet any of your messages07:50
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apparlePatrick13251: could you come offtopic. Please07:59
Patrick13251apparle, Im an irc noob.  I must be doing something wrong then.08:03
Patrick13251on my client I just click on your name and a new window pops up.  Typing in there doesn't go to you apparently08:04
apparlesome one please help us IRC as both of us are noob s about IRC. How do we talk privately?08:06
apparlePatrick13251: I can see that the link is very useful but is there a windows version08:07
Patrick13251no but if you have a different PC you could use a live-cd of some kind and then probably put it on a USB stick08:08
Patrick13251then again, Im no expert, maybe they do have a PC version of apt08:09
Patrick13251maybe for cygwin or mingw08:09
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apparlePatrick13251: I could not understand exactly what to do. Could you explain?08:18
apparlePatrick13251: Could you explain what to do with what was stated in the link08:20
apparlePatrick13251: Please explain how to use the script in more detail08:27
apparleprivmsg Patrick1325108:29
apparleprivmsg Patrick13251 sadf08:29
Patrick13251im getting messages in the other window now08:31
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apparlePatrick13251: Ok reply in the new window08:32
Patrick13251Ok I replied in the other window, do you see it?08:34
apparlePatrick13251: No. Type this command in this window "/PRIVMSG apparle <msg>" .replace <msg> with your msg08:35
Patrick13251I'm typing that but nothing happens, is there a typo in it?08:39
Patrick13251Anyway its really late here and I have to hit the sack.  I had a peek at the link and it won't work for you directly08:40
apparlePatrick13251: I am also getting late for lecture bye08:41
apparlebye bye08:41
harmentalhey guys..i have realized i no longer have a swap!!08:42
harmentalany hints?08:42
harmentalmy fstab claims: "/dev/hda6 none swap sw 0 0"08:45
Patrick13251is /etc/init.d/kdm stop not working correctly in Kubuntu 7.10?08:57
mith_hi all! are there any way to easily configure my multimedia keyboard?08:59
noam_is it just me or the latest flash player update breaks konqueror?09:01
spartacusHi. Just a question re installing Kubuntu on an existing Ubuntu installation. The 4.0.1 news page says to install kde4-core, while FAQ says to install kubuntu-desktop. Should I read that to mean I need both?09:16
emilsedghspartacus: kubuntu-desktop will install kubuntu stuff which are KDE3 based09:17
emilsedghspartacus: if you want a complete kubuntu with stability, go with kubuntu-desktop, if you want to be on the edge of desktop technology and you dont mind losing a few features and a little bit of stability, go with kde4-core09:18
spartacusemilsedgh: OK, I don't mind bleeding edge stuff now and then. I should get a full KDE 4 desktop available in KDM after installing kde4-core?09:20
emilsedghspartacus: i think so, read the announcement, teaches how to install kde4 stuff09:20
llutzspartacus: you won't bcus most of the apps aren't ported to kde4 now09:21
spartacusemilsedgh: I have. I didn't  think it was clear that kde-desktop only installed 3.x, so wanted to check what was needed...09:22
spartacusllutz: yeah, that's fine though - I'm mostly looking for the KDE4 core desktop...09:22
ctx144khello all, i wanna change my quit-dialog in KDE... i dont need the 2 options for sleeping-mode09:22
ctx144kis there a way to diable them?09:23
ForgeAusAndLinux is Kubuntu for Windows :)09:32
ForgeAuswell the KDE pack is, its based on kubuntu gutsy currently09:32
ForgeAus(400mb image)09:32
ForgeAussudo seems to be missing09:33
ForgeAusthe Kmenu "notification" icon (ie windows system tray) has lotsa kde apps :)09:34
ForgeAusand you can edit files from anywhere in kate :)09:34
ForgeAusor browse from anywhere09:35
RiddellForgeAus: where's this?09:37
jussi01!gr | themzot_09:38
ubotuthemzot_: #ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes09:38
themzot_\ #gympedin09:38
ubotuTo switch your keyboard layout on GNOME: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (GNOME) - KDE: K -> System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout (KDE) - Xfce: see https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts09:44
ubotukeyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts09:44
ForgeAusRiddell Google: AndLinux (its based on CoLinux)09:45
ForgeAusits interesting, not there yet but quite good09:46
ForgeAusbasically runs from a .drv file (which is a 4 gig hardfile of a kubuntu dustro)09:46
ForgeAusgrr distro09:46
ForgeAusits cut down of course09:46
ForgeAustheres also a smaller 100 or so mb xfce one09:47
ForgeAusand a swap .drv09:47
nareshovHi, does the kubuntu installer do LVM install?09:47
ForgeAusbut the .drv files are pretty much static (although they are resizable there's a tool with it for that)09:47
ForgeAusonly one problem I don't know how to shut it down lol09:49
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ROOT_OF_ALL_EVILВсем добрый день!09:51
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jussi01!ru | ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL09:55
ubotuROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke09:55
ROOT_OF_ALL_EVILSorry, I was wrong...09:56
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nicobrainmoin, moin09:59
nicobrainkann ich mir aus ner live-cd nen command-line system installieren?10:00
llutz!de | nicobrain nur wenn du nach installation 90% des Sys löschst10:00
ubotunicobrain nur wenn du nach installation 90% des Sys löschst: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:00
ROOT_OF_ALL_EVILMy players (coffein and oth.) don't show video. What's the reason?10:01
nicobrainah okay...danke10:01
ROOT_OF_ALL_EVILDid anybody have such problem?10:02
ROOT_OF_ALL_EVILMy players (coffein and oth.) don't show video. Did anybody have such problem?10:03
jussi01ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL: what kind of video, and are you getting an error message?10:06
ROOT_OF_ALL_EVILVideo - .avi ; mpg. No message. Scrollbar is going like video is  played...10:07
jussi01!avi | ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL10:08
ubotuROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:08
CreationistROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL: Have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras?10:09
ROOT_OF_ALL_EVILI'll test it now...10:10
jussi01ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL: that should be kubuntu-restricted-extras for kubuntu10:12
nareshovDoes the Kubuntu installed support LVM installs?10:14
jussi01!lvm | nareshov10:17
ubotunareshov: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO10:17
ForgeAushmm how to do kde3 + kde4?10:23
jussi01ForgeAus: just install kde4 on top of a kde3 install - you will find instructions in the topic of #kubuntu-kde410:26
ForgeAuslol the topic there says to come here :)10:27
ForgeAus'This channel is for KDE4 support on Kubuntu only. If you are running KDE3, please go to #kubuntu10:27
inetproja maar wys vir Frikkadel10:28
nevilleHas anybody here ever used Uck?10:28
nevilleIf so, what have they thought of it?10:28
jussi01ForgeAus: hmmm, I suppose you could read it like that.10:28
inetprooops ... sorry10:28
ForgeAusI'm trying to do something that it probably shouldn't be able to do anyway, for now I'm happy to leave it10:29
ForgeAusI'm just happy to have whats turning out to essentially be an embedded kubuntu in my windows10:30
ForgeAusogl support is terrible tho10:30
ForgeAusI need a better diff X-server or something to replace TAP whatever that is10:30
jussi01neville: what is it?10:32
ForgeAushehe I'd be interesting to see if wine does anything more from inside andlinux than it does in plain kubuntu10:32
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nevilleUbuntu Customisation Kit10:32
ubotuUCK is a tool that helps you customise official Ubuntu Live CDs (including Kubuntu/Xubuntu and Edubuntu) to your needs. See http://uck.sourceforge.net/10:32
ForgeAuswhats gobuntu?10:32
nevilleSo far, it seems to be awesome :D10:33
ubotugobuntu is a freedom-focused flavour of Ubuntu intended for experienced Linux enthusiasts. See http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/gobuntu for more information and download mirrors..10:33
ForgeAusoh so its just missing non FOSS stuff?10:33
nevilleNo more having to download everything again after format for me :D10:33
ROOT_OF_ALL_EVILI use a laptop Asus, but sound doesn't work completely. Alsamixer didn't help... what can I do?10:33
jussi01ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL: which sound card ?10:33
ForgeAusI had problems with Asus and sound with kubuntu too10:34
jussi01ForgeAus: pretty much10:34
ForgeAusstill dunno what they were10:34
jussi01a little more info would be good ;)10:34
ForgeAusok now I can get rid of interix and maybe pkgsrc bootstrap my andlinux (I'm sure it wasn't meant for that! rofl but it could b fun)10:34
ForgeAusalso to test if slackware binaries work in AndLinux like they do in Kubuntu10:35
ForgeAusif this works I don't need to fix my kubuntu partition I can just use this instead10:36
ForgeAusand maybe put MacOSX there in place of it:)10:36
jussi01ForgeAus: -offtopic ;)10:37
ROOT_OF_ALL_EVILjussi01: How can i watch version of my sound card (for more information)?10:38
phobos_how to intall KDE4.010:39
jussi01ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL: lspci in terminal should have it listed10:39
jussi01!kde4 | phobos_10:39
ubotuphobos_: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde410:39
phobos_thx men10:41
ctx144kanyone knows how to change resolution of kubuntu7.10 splashscreen?10:44
ROOT_OF_ALL_EVILjussi01: I can send you result of lspci10:44
ROOT_OF_ALL_EVILBecause I can't understand it's results...10:46
psi_i have an issue with mplayer when it starts playing a movie the picture is massive any ideas?10:46
ROOT_OF_ALL_EVILAudio device: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon X1200 Series Audio Controller10:47
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ROOT_OF_ALL_EVILI have kubuntu on lap-top Asus. Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon X1200 Series Audio Controller. There's no sound. What should I do?10:54
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP310:56
jussi01ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL: sorry, was away for afew mins10:56
ROOT_OF_ALL_EVILDon't matter...10:57
ROOT_OF_ALL_EVILSo, what do you think about this?10:57
jussi01ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL: did you do what the bot instructed?10:58
ROOT_OF_ALL_EVILI'm doing this now, but links are not so helpful...10:59
jussi01ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL: you tried the first part: K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked11:00
ROOT_OF_ALL_EVILOf course, I did it first11:03
m_tadeuhi...is there a way to install the openoffice2.3 packages in feisty?11:07
thanasim_tadeu: there might be packages or installers on the openoffice site, but i'm not sure11:10
m_tadeuthanasi: just installer binaries....was avoiding that. I'd rather use .deb packages from a repository11:12
thanasim_tadeu: not sure then. haven't tried it yet11:13
PolitikerALTDoes anyone know a tool to temporarily disable one core (Intel Core 2 Duo) in order to save energy?11:22
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LynourePolitikerALT: is there such a tool for some OS out there?11:27
tomahasamootHow can I download src pkgs?11:28
Lynouretomahasamoot: apt-get source packagename11:30
tomahasamootoh thanks!11:30
tomahasamootI thot I was looking for foo-src11:31
tomahasamootwhat directory will it dump the source files into?11:32
ubotukeyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts11:32
Lynouretomahasamoot: the once you are in.11:33
ROOT_OF_ALL_EVILHow to run 'ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run'?11:38
jussi01./ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run from the dir its in11:39
Tecmii have kubuntu 7.10 in cd, someone know how to boot from disk if i dont have access to bios?11:40
Tecmii hate these schools computers, everything disabled.11:41
LynoureTecmi: it's not really a kubuntu problem... if your bios does not boot from disk, and you cannot access it (why?), you are pretty much out of luck11:41
ForgeAusargh I need OSX86!11:41
thanasiTecmi: can you edit menu.lst for grub?11:41
LynoureTecmi: I feel your pain, but alas, without bios block / no disk boot they'd have to get reinstalled nightly in most schools... and some actually go that route.11:42
Tecmino, have vista in ewery computer and disalloved to use them as logged root11:42
Tecmii just wanted tu run kubuntu from disk, not install or anything :)11:42
Tecmiand sry about my poor english skills11:43
thanasiTecmi: no luck then. if you can install a VM you can boot it from there but you'll stille need admin rights to install anything11:43
LynoureTecmi: yes, unfortunately for each kubuntu booter there is couple of kids who really like to mess up things... You could offer yourself as a volunteer and get bios access, if they work that way there =)11:44
jussi01Tecmi: you could also check if usb boot has been enabled... ;)(or forgottoen to be disabled)11:45
Tecmii think its disabled too.11:45
Tecmimaybe i just use that fucking putty11:46
ubotuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.11:46
Tecmithx 4 all, i try that usb boot later11:47
simion314hi, can i load in parallels my real windows xp partition? it will be a waste of space and time to install other xp11:52
* ForgeAus shrugs11:53
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Lynouresimion314: parallels? isn't that closed source stuff, for os x, mostly? and on win xp? Is there Kubuntu there somewhere in that question?11:57
simion314Lynoure:  yes, it is avaiable for ubuntu 15 days trial in repositories, i want to test it11:58
ForgeAusI don't know much about parallels11:59
ForgeAushas anyone pkgsrc bootstrapped their kubuntu?12:00
Lynouresimion314: if it was in ubuntu repositories, I think it will only work in (k)ubuntu, not xp12:01
ForgeAusit would have to be a different version of it for XP12:02
ForgeAusbut it may host XP I don't know12:02
ForgeAusfor all I know it may do a good job of hosting XP12:02
simion314i can create a xp guest but i do not want that, i wish i can load my windows partition, just a test to compare with vmware12:03
Lynouresimion314: Maybe you can get Parallels trial for XP from somewhere else...12:09
ForgeAusyou can use vmware to load your xp partition12:10
ForgeAus(or VirtualBox if you like, that'd be smaller)12:10
ForgeAuswhats the point of having Adept become more like Synaptic if theres already a Kynaptic project?12:12
jussi01ForgeAus: that, I beleive would be a #kubuntu-devel question12:13
ForgeAusI agree there jussi :)12:13
dscorbinFor some reason, none of my KDE windows are resizable.  Any ideas?  There is no "sizeable border"12:16
Lynouredscorbin: sounds like some compiz thing...12:16
lsz...or some kwin thing.12:16
lszHi all, i'm new here.12:17
Lynourelsz: :)12:17
dscorbinLynoure: compiz?12:20
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion12:20
Lynouredscorbin: if you don't know what it is, and it's not a hand-me-down kubuntu you are running, you probably don't have it. So it would not then be the cause, either12:21
lszah, I also have some trouble with my compiz+emerald+kubuntu12:22
dscorbinIt's brand new install of Kubuntu 7.1012:22
lszwhen i start compiz, then run something like kmix or kopete, the icon won't appear in the sys tray12:22
lszinstead, it goes out of the panels and it is a very small window.12:23
lszi have to run kwin --replace to get it in the right position.12:23
jussi01lsz: I often have that also - havent got a fix yet :/12:23
emilsedghis there any archive available for #kubuntu?12:25
lsz@jussi01, you mean, it is a `feature' instead a bug?12:25
Lynourelsz: there seems to be various kubuntu-compiz gui weirdnesses... and as I don't help with compiz here, it's usually my first question to the people with gui weirdness. :)12:25
jussi01lsz: yeps :D12:25
Lynouredscorbin: hmm, and there is absolutely no resizing possible at any of the edges? That is weird.12:30
SlimeyPetesounds like kwin hasn't loaded.12:30
dscorbinYes, but not for all applications, just KDE ones.  Xchat and firefox are fine, but konsole, konquerer, etc are not12:31
dscorbinkwin is running12:31
dscorbinI can maximize those widnows, but no simple reszing12:33
lszdo those windows have title bars?12:33
ForgeAuscareful it might be QT not KDE12:34
lszright-click, any menu item say resize?12:34
dscorbinAnd I just discovered if I select Resize from the system menu, I can,and that leaves me  a "grabble border"12:34
ForgeAuswhats a grabble border?12:34
dscorbinI mean i can then resize THAT window.12:34
lszwhat THAT?12:35
dscorbinThe window I selected RESIZE on.12:35
dscorbinAnd ti appears to have chanced for new windows now.12:35
dscorbinVery....Things seem better now.  Hope it doesn't come back with a restart12:36
Dr_Willisyou are not using compiz?12:36
ForgeAusdscorbin sounds like you modified something interesting somehow :)12:36
lszEverything well?restart X and wish you good luck.12:36
ForgeAusdoes compiz-fusion work with better with KDE than beryl did?12:36
ForgeAus(it didn't have virtual desktop support from memory)12:37
lszsurely No12:37
Dr_WillisBeryl is dead. :)12:37
Dr_Williscompiz - works.. decently well.12:37
ForgeAuswell not dead, it merged back into compiz12:37
Dr_Willisit got assimulated. :)12:37
ForgeAusthas why compiz-fusion12:37
ForgeAusthe fusion bit to indicate reintegration with beryl12:37
Dr_Willisbut the lack of beryl in the name means.. they dident  like the name. :)12:38
ForgeAusafterall initially all it was was a fork of the beryl project anyway :)12:38
Dr_WillisThen again.. compiz-fusion is a bit of a mouthfull12:38
lszI added "kwin --replace" and "compiz" and "emerald --replace" into my panel12:38
Dr_WillisThe servent has became the master! Young Grasshopper!12:38
ForgeAuswell after a few releases it will probably just drop back to being compiz :)12:38
lszbecause i often use that12:38
ubotuBeryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz12:38
ForgeAusjussi I think I just got through saying that12:39
ForgeAuswell I didn't say about beryl being discouraged but if anyone planned to install beryl I'd have recommended compiz-fusion instead :)12:39
ForgeAusbut now you did that... it makes me wonder something12:40
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion12:40
ForgeAusI might change my mimetypes and make krusader my default file manager I think12:41
ForgeAushmmm AndLinux is smoother internet than my native Windows, thats strange12:50
ForgeAusespecially since it passes through12:50
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psi_arrrgghh all my fonts are tiny and i can't read the text in this chat room how do i fix it can some one wright in caps please12:51
savetheWorldpsi_: WHAT PROGRAM ARE YOU USING?12:52
psi_look at my what?12:52
savetheWorldpsi_: WHAT PROGRAM ARE YOU USING?12:52
Dr_WillisIF your over all fonts are tiny in kde - you can set them all with the fonts control panel settings.12:52
psi_nope can't see it12:52
savetheWorldpsi_: WHAT PROGRAM ARE YOU USING?12:52
psi_sigh guess i got to reinstall kubuntu thanks for trying guys12:53
lsz:D, i mean12:53
lsz :的 should be :D12:53
Dr_Willisand reinstalling will fix fonts how exactly?12:53
savetheWorldI guess the more serious question is should someone who cant figure that out be allowed to use a computer? Even Windows users can solve that.12:53
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ForgeAusas much as I hate to admit it GTK is handy :(12:54
Dr_WillisYou could hit alt-ctrl NUMPAD + and - to set the  res lower12:54
lsz  savetheWorld: I don't quite understand your "should someone who cant figure that out be allowed to use"12:55
jussi01!hi | CJari12:55
ubotuCJari: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!12:55
CJariI'm trying to figure why rosegarden stopped playing the midi files, I wonder if there's other program taking the sound system?12:55
lszarts + timidity = a lot of trouble12:56
CJariactually I hear no sounds at all in rosegarden but other apps play sounds12:56
ubotuTrouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo12:56
lszthat's your rosegarden didn't link to the arts12:56
CJarijussi01: actually its not just the midi, but all the notes when you record, maybe they use the midi?12:57
lszi had the same trouble with noteedit a few days ago, and i still don't know what did i do12:57
lszbut it works now.12:58
CJarihmm do I need timidity library in order to play midi in rosegarden?12:58
lszdon't know rosegarden because i havn't used that.12:59
lszDid rosegarden work yesterday?12:59
lszor some other day?12:59
jussi01CJari: if you dont get an answer here, you may find someone in #ubuntustudio knows13:01
CJarilsz it worked just a while ago :) then I dont know what happened13:02
CJaribut Im used to kill the timidity process, now I uninstalled it, maybe thats it13:02
CJariand I restarted few times13:02
lszCJari: OK, then just do something like restart X, config the sound system in kcontrol/systemsettings, restart artsd...13:03
lsz CJari: ...and even restart linux...13:03
lszand wish a good luck.13:03
CJarilsz I did restart linux :)13:06
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lszCJari: I just tried a lot of useless things and now it works...I don't know further. Maybe it is because the arts takes your soundcard, and others(timidity, rosegarden) can't access it.13:08
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CJarilsz hmmm ok I used the kill command to end artsd but it didnt help13:09
CJariusing timidity again - that always works13:09
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ses59_i have problem with booting my computer.  I tried to load kde 4 and had bad install of adobereader 32 bit on 64 system13:21
ses59_and kde 4 crashed and had apt-get to remove it13:21
lszKDE 4 support in #kubuntu-kde4  ...13:22
ses59_now get this error on reboot:Kinit: name_to_dev_t (/dev/disk/by-uuid/f2494166-068f-40f4-95ad-ed3d9060b448 = sda5 (8,513:22
ses59_Kinit: trying to resume from /dev/disk/by uuid/f2494166-068f-40f4-95ad-ed3d9060b448 this also13:22
ses59_Kinit: No resume image, doing norman boot . . .13:23
lszthis is not an error message because i see something like this every day13:23
ses59_what file do i need to edit to fix it where it ask to be loged in13:23
lszon my computer, after"doing normal boot...", the splash screen stand out .13:24
ses59_i do not get login screen now and permission are not correct on my log now i can not reboot the computer13:24
bentob0xanybody knows how to make pulseaudio working with Kubuntu 7.10?13:25
ses59_ok not an error but still need to fix for login screen is up and get permission reset13:25
lszses59_: what did you do before that crash?13:25
lszjust a set of apt-get?13:26
ses59_i was trying to open pdf file and it lockup and then on hard reboot task bar gone and nothing working13:26
MGalaxyhow can I force thunderbird to open FEEDs in Firefox, not in a new window in thunderbird?13:27
ses59_did go recovery mode and run apt-get to remove some of kde 4 settings and now can log in and start x and get desktop13:27
lszdid you try recovery mode?13:27
lszyou mean, you are root now?13:28
ses59_can i delete the setting under /dev/disk/by uuid/ long number13:29
LukeLMHi everyone.. I just went to remove KDE-4, and I thought selecting any packages with 'kde4' in them would be good.. however it wasw not and I removed some other packages like kdesktop by accident.. now when I go to readd them I get stuff like "broken packages". Can anyone help?13:29
ses59_no not root but loged in with my name and password13:29
ForgeAuslike you need to fixbroken13:30
lszjust try rename the settings...13:30
ForgeAusgrr LukeLM you need to fix-broken13:30
ses59_lukeLM sounds like you and I tried kde 4 to soon13:30
hellmastergood morning everyone13:30
LukeLMdpkg --fix-broken ?13:30
lszI tried kde4 too13:30
ForgeAusyeah well kde-4 is fairly new (practically still in beta)13:30
lszbut that works fairly well13:31
lszafter all, i prefer kde3 now.13:31
ForgeAusLuke I don't remember which command its a switch of but if I were you I'd try it with apt-get before I'd go dpkg13:31
hellmasteri have a question, how do i know my current screen resolution and how can i change it?13:31
ForgeAuskcontrol hellmaster (or system-settings)13:31
lszsystemsettings, not system-settings13:32
ForgeAusor if you like cli I think you can use xrandr13:32
hellmasterim in kcontrol, where exactly?13:33
ForgeAusthere should be a monitors subseciton there13:33
lszoh by the way, i have a question here13:34
lszmy locale is Chinese(zh-cn), but some of the text here is in some language other than Chinese and English13:35
lszthey are like:"Sol kenar üstte","Basasagi"13:36
lszand there is something under the "s" and above "g" in "Basasagi"13:37
lszwho knows what's that?13:38
ForgeAushehe using compiz to make my XP desktop rotate would be impressive :)13:41
tomahasamootForgeAus: you can do that, put XP in a VM on your desktop, then rotate away13:44
lszyou can rotate without compiz in xp, i remember.13:48
Bauldrickany good web filter programs for kids13:49
Xbehaveis there any way to find out memory frequency?13:49
lszXbehave: yes13:52
lsz输入 sudo lshw 也可以察看看这些信息.注意这里的 *-memory 下面有 *-bank:0 之类的代表内存插槽,再下面有 clock: 533MHz (1.9ns) 代表此插槽上插的是DDR 533 的内存.(注意这里不加sudo就看不到内存频率)13:53
lszer...let me translate it for you.13:53
lszsudo lshw13:54
lszthen find something like *-memory, then you will find something like 533MHz (1.9ns)13:54
lszif you don;t sudo, no freq will be shown.13:54
Xbehavewhats the command because my knoversation showed sudo lshw *wierd characters* *-memory  *more charagers* *-bank:013:56
lszsudo lshw13:57
lszthat's Chinese...13:58
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lszwhat's uhlmi doing...13:58
lszok, nothing...14:01
harmentalhey guys...does anyone have an external USB fat32 HD which is mounted automatically at startup (when plugged obviously)?14:02
harmentalif so....could he be gentle enough to pass me the fstab line achieving that?14:02
lszjust unplug then plug, then it will be mounted...14:02
harmentali've been dealing with this since yesterday ...and nothing seems to work....14:02
lszi think it is something like /dev/sdb1 or something14:03
harmentallsz: actually that's the part that works...but i want the HD to be mounted automagically at startup....14:03
flatsAnyone know where java installs to?  I just installed the latest and I need to set it up for use with firefox and all the sun info says it installs into usr/lib/ but I can't find it there!!!14:03
flatsI need to add it as a plugin but just can't find it14:03
Xbehavefirefox plugins are in a few places, i use /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins14:04
flatsI found the plugin folder14:04
lszjava is in /usr/lib/j*****14:04
flatsThat what it says, but I don't see it.  It's not a hidden file is it?14:04
lszsomething like that.14:05
BluesKajHowdy all :)14:05
flatsI dont have any directory even starting with a j14:05
flatsin usr/lib14:05
flatsahhh wait do I have to be root to see it?14:05
flatsjava -> /etc/alternatives/java.....   this is the only thing I see as root14:07
flatsin /usr/lib14:07
lszrun jcontrol14:07
lszthen in the second tab: Java14:07
lszyou will find it there14:07
Xbehavei ran lshw and i get "*-bank:1/ description: DIMM DDR Synch/physical id: 1/ slot: M2/ size: 256MB/ width: 64 bits" but theres no frequecy14:08
lszsudo lshw14:08
lszsudo lshw | grep Hz14:09
lszif you like, this is better.14:09
Xbehaveyeah sudo lshw14:09
lszdescription: DIMM DDR Synchronous 533 MHz (1.9 ns)14:09
psi_ahhhh fixed fonts lol14:09
lszthat's mine14:09
_Angelus_finally there a timer to suspend and to turn off pc on kubuntu tanks to kde414:09
psi_i have just installed kubuntu again and it says there are 130 updates i click to install them then it says there is aversion update and freezes then i have to quit out of it when i reboot pc kubuntu dies14:10
lszpoor psi_14:11
lszXbehave: did you get it?14:12
lsz        *-bank:0             description: DIMM DDR Synchronous 533 MHz (1.9 ns)             physical id: 0             slot: DIMM 1             size: 512MB             width: 64 bits             clock: 533MHz (1.9ns)14:12
eddyplz where i find the acer aspire 5050 wireless driver for ndiswrapper14:12
psi_is it best to update through console using apt-get or use GUI?14:12
lszapt-get and synaptics are the same, i think14:13
Xbehavei get it without the clock perhaps its because its in the 2nd slot14:13
lszbut my adept often crash14:13
psi_mine crashes often to14:13
psi_but it freezes every time i try to install the 130 updates14:13
psi_what is command to update via console?14:14
Xbehavesudo aptitude safe-update14:14
Xbehaveoops i meant or sudo aptitude dist-updgrade14:15
Xbehavebut you need to sudo aptitude update 1st14:15
psi_did that now what14:16
psi_This aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers.14:16
Xbehavesudo aptitude dist-upgrade should work what error do you get14:17
Flaviohi guys14:17
psi_thats working now thanks14:17
Flavioannyone here who speaks german ?14:17
alf_hi. does anybody know russian support channel?14:17
ubotuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke14:17
alf_thank you14:18
psi_i was so slose14:18
Flavio#kubuntu-de :D14:18
alf_it's empty(((14:19
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots14:19
psi_alf_: #ubuntu-ru14:19
BluesKajmaybe the russian room name script should be cyrillic :P14:21
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl14:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about welsh - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:21
eddyplz where i find the acer aspire 5050 wireless driver for ndiswrapper14:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about scotish - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:21
BluesKajpolish isn't cyrillic , ukranian is14:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cornish - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:21
eddyplz where i find the acer aspire 5050 wireless driver for ndiswrapper14:22
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk14:22
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gutsy and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.14:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ukrainian - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:22
psi_eddy: what chipset is it14:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about chipset - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:22
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots14:23
ubotuSo, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.14:23
BluesKajpsi & lsz ... enuff alreddy !14:24
psi_i stopped ages ago14:24
psi_eddy: ???14:24
lszoh, i looked enuff up in the dict.14:25
psi_eddy: http://download.driverscollection.com/drivers/b970da7affd138f664e3aae3f65a3a67/47ac665e/A/ACER/Notebooks/WLAN.zip14:25
eddyits a atheros chipset14:26
eddyi think14:26
psi_any one here use virgin boradband?14:27
psi_yes eddy it is a atheros chipset you can download drivers from here http://driverscollection.com/?file_id=3842814:27
eddywell i start already download but when it finish, how i will use the ndiswrappper14:34
eddysorry for my english14:35
sub[t]rnleddy➜ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%2914:36
ForgeAuswell sub I was right about the /etc thing with my fglxr (sp)14:37
ForgeAuseverythign has gone from /etc/alternatives14:37
ForgeAusso links missing all over the place14:37
* genii puts on a new pot of coffee and settles in14:37
ForgeAusworking on getting some back14:37
sub[t]rnlForgeAus➜ cool, ever get it sorted out?14:37
ForgeAusI'm learning and getting a few steps closer but I don't think I'd go as far as to say sorted out14:38
ForgeAusalso a few other directories were turned into files too14:38
ForgeAusso not likely going to work in a hurry14:38
ForgeAusI need to identify which ones and fix them but not easily done14:38
ForgeAustoo busy toying with andlinux :)14:39
ForgeAus(its nice too)14:39
ForgeAusbut no desktop14:39
ForgeAus(its basically an interoperable kde for windows)14:40
ForgeAuswell more than just kde more like kubuntu14:40
ForgeAusfor example you can run kpackage directly on your desktop :)14:40
ForgeAus(that is your windows desktop)14:40
ForgeAusKDE4Win is similar I guess14:41
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ForgeAushmmm I wonder if they'll find a way to pass DirectX through Wine :)14:43
ForgeAusnot that theres a need to really14:43
ForgeAussince you can run windows apps natively in the windows host shell :)14:43
Xbehavethey wouldnt the wine devs want to replace windows API so i doubt theyd go out of thier way so that people break MS copyright,14:45
ForgeAusXbehave? what do you mean?14:46
ForgeAusif your running AndLinux from within windows you already have DirectX capability, all you need for Wine to do is pick up on it and pass through ...14:47
ForgeAusno copyright issue there is there?14:47
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ForgeAus(implementing DirectX in Wine may or may not be copyright issue I wouldn't know personally)14:47
Xbehaveah right i miss understood14:48
psicobrai'm back baby14:48
ForgeAushehe did you bring your front with you?14:48
psicobradamit i always forget that 114:48
psicobrawoohoo found it14:49
ForgeAusfound what?14:49
psicobranow i'm front and back baby14:49
ForgeAusmore like back to front14:49
psicobradamit now i gots to walk backwards14:49
psicobrastairs are going to be tricky14:50
ForgeAuslol well you did say you found something without saying what it was you found14:50
psicobramy front14:50
ForgeAusoh is that all14:50
psicobrakinda improtant tho14:50
ForgeAusI'm rather attached to mine14:50
psicobrai was once to14:50
psicobrauntill the accident14:50
eddythank for the help14:51
ForgeAusanyway anyone actual kubuntu problems that I probably cant solve?14:51
ForgeAusI think I missed out a got any in there somewhere14:51
Xcellwhich onboard temperature pgm is best?14:51
ForgeAus:) there we go14:51
psicobrajust ment that the gkrellm was directed at you14:52
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_Angelus_guys, where is the trash bin in kde4.0.1?14:59
lg188i think right below ...:s14:59
lg188:s in your bar15:00
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lg188.. hi somebody .js knowledge ?15:01
_Angelus_i have a lot of missing packages15:01
_Angelus_is there some package that installs every kde4.0.1 package ?15:01
lg188i donth think so _Angelus_  ..15:05
_Angelus_there is15:05
_Angelus_its called kde415:05
_Angelus_but somehow it installs some kde4.0.0 packages15:05
BluesKaj_Angelus_, yes , but do you really want that ... there are so many pkgs15:06
_Angelus_of course15:06
_Angelus_im a big kde fan, and i want everything kde offers :P15:06
lg188why do you ask it than ??15:06
_Angelus_lg188:  cause i didnt know that kde4 package existed15:06
_Angelus_i discovered it 2mins ago :P15:07
ForgeAusI'm a kde fan too :)15:07
Frekuwell, start a fan club15:07
ForgeAusyeah in the kicker replacement (I think it might be called kickoff now nless thats the menu)15:07
BluesKajkickoff is the Suse kicker eye candy15:10
alf_! russian15:11
ubotuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke15:11
* _Angelus_ tries to understand that15:12
lg188you say it excepted 1 sentence after that you say there isn't that there is ??15:13
misticwarriorwazup ?15:13
lg188somebody that has .js knowledge ?15:14
misticwarriorI have a problem with a wifi card... In fact it's a belkin (PCI), and when I plug it in a PCI port, kubuntu doesn't want to start... it stops at "detecting hardware drivers"... Do you know why ?15:14
ubotuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke15:14
lg188somthing roge with the driver15:15
ubotuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke15:15
lg188search for a driver i think15:15
BluesKajalf_, stop that15:15
lg188alf stop it15:15
alf_sorry, i have problems with my connection15:16
BluesKajalf_, calling up the bot isn't going to help your connection15:16
alf_i didn't receive answer here15:17
lg188so what ? you don't have to spam us with "!Russian" thing allright ?15:17
lg188sombody .js knowledge please private chat me15:17
alf_i am sorry for that, i thought my messges don't go there15:17
lg188kk it's allright15:18
BluesKajlg188, just ask your question in here15:18
lg188somebody .js knowledge please private chat me15:18
Xbehave!russian > juan15:18
lg188owh yeah sorry for multi ask sorry for that15:18
Xbehavealf you can /msg ubotu russian for the info too15:19
misticwarrior I have a problem with a wifi card... In fact it's a belkin (PCI), and when I plug it in a PCI port, kubuntu doesn't want to start... it stops at "detecting hardware drivers"... Do you know why ?15:19
lg188Xbehave: its :"!russian | juan" i think or are things changed ?15:19
Xbehavenah i got it wrong15:20
Xbehave!ubotu | juan15:20
ubotujuan: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots15:20
Xbehaveis there no way for it to pm the answer ?15:20
alf_ok than. i just have a problem while rebooting kubuntu 7.04. it isn't shutting down and paints strange picture of stripes and dots on a screen. where can i look log file?15:20
lg188!ubotu |lg18815:20
BluesKajlg188, no, the !ru > juan  works , the bot opens a PM on juan's client , not here15:21
amikhi, can someone help me out with detecting a wireless network?15:21
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs15:21
Xbehaveo yeah i just got my name wrong and spammed somebody called juan oops15:21
ctx144kwhich pakackage include the default - (k)ubuntu - kernel?15:23
amikthe thing is KNetworkManager at first showed three possible networks to connect to, but then I chose 'manual configuration', which managed to connect properly. However, I want to return to 'automatic' knetworkmanager operation, but now knetworkmanager doesn't show any wireless networks...15:24
Xbehavectx144k:  linux-generic15:24
amikis there any way to 'undo' the manual configuration and have knetworkmanager do it's automatic thing like it did before?15:24
ctx144kupps sorry, i mean the kernel-source15:25
lg188oh kk15:25
alf_and while it freezes, caps lock is blinking.15:26
lg188somebody .js knowledge please private chat me ?15:27
Xbehavectx144k: linux-source15:27
ibouis it possible to automatically launch knotes on boot ?15:28
_Angelus_ibou: add it to .kde/Autostart15:28
lg188i think by just using it ...15:29
ibou_Angelus_: how ?15:29
Xbehavewhats the point of hibernation in kubuntu?15:29
ctx144kXbehave, so easy :-)15:29
_Angelus_ibou: "echo "knotes" > ~/.kde/Autostart/Knotes.sh15:29
Xbehaveif i hibernate i come back to the same desktop if i reboot i come back to the same desktop session. does hibernation let you boot faster?15:30
muesli_Xbehave: no, that's not true15:30
_Angelus_no Xbehave15:30
ibouangelus thanks15:30
muesli_Xbehave: it will restart the applications15:30
lg188Xbehave:  its a sort of saving your sesion in windos what its auto doeing in kubuntu so idk15:30
ibou_Angelus_: thanks15:30
amikanyone? (didn't find an answer in the docs)15:31
_Angelus_Xbehave: Suspend boots faster, because it stores an image in ram, hibernation stores and image in hard drive15:31
muesli_Xbehave: but with hibernation all applications will stay in the very state you left them15:31
siofwolveshi. my screen size in kbuntu is stuck at 640 x 480 there are no other sizes in Monitor & Display - System Settings. Any idea's ?15:31
_Angelus_so the fastest is Suspend, hibernation is as slow as booting up Xbehave15:31
lg188siofwolves:  thats wierd i think15:32
_Angelus_no problem ibou15:33
Daisuke_Idosiofwolves: what video card and what driver?15:34
ibou_Angelus_: should i write #!/bin/sh on the line before "echo "knotes"" ?15:34
siofwolvesati radeon 9800 and defualt driver15:34
Daisuke_Idoand i know nothing about ati :\15:35
Daisuke_Idosorry :(15:35
Xbehavelshw wont give me my ram speed, does anybody no a good guide so i make sure i by the right ram?15:35
Daisuke_Idoi would recommend running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg' and setting the driver to ati15:35
siofwolvesit did work normally, i was messing around with compiz and i think that may have something to do with it15:35
lg188ibou: try to update drivers ... or look for default screen i place of plug 'n play screen15:36
_Angelus_no ibou15:36
Daisuke_IdoXbehave: do you know your processor and socket type?15:36
siofwolvesi only installed kbutu yesterday, so i may just reinstall a bit later15:36
XbehaveDaisuke_Ido: not sure but i could probably find out15:37
BluesKajkbutu eh ...15:40
niallis there any way to change the icons in kontact?15:41
niallthe bigs ones on the left15:41
lg188somebody .js knowledge please private chat (google gadget scripting)15:41
BluesKajlookin configure kontact15:41
niallI've looked15:42
ubotuPlease ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.15:42
misticwarriorI have a problem with a belkin desktop wireless card. When I plug it in my PCI port, kubuntu doesn't want to start... it stops at "detecting hardware drivers"... do you know why ?15:43
SelanitQuestion: occasionally my system freezes completely - will not respond to the mouse, the keyboard, and cannot be accessed over the network.  When this happens, the caps lock and scroll lock lights on the keyboard begin flashing.  What do the flashing lights indicate?  Kernel panic?15:46
iboueach time i launch kontakt, i have korganizers alarm deamon which is launched too. I don't want it and do not find any option to avoid that. Is there one ?15:48
BluesKajSelanit, could be an Xorg prob15:48
_Angelus_i installed every kde4 package, and i still dont have a trash can15:51
Xbehaveits a celeron M but im having dificulty finding the socket15:51
SelanitBluesKaj:  It usually happens when I have just run a modprobe on my network driver, which I have to do frequently.15:51
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BluesKajSelanit, why do you have to modprobe your network driver ..is it misconfigged ?15:56
JoshOvki_Angelus_: what happens in dophin when you try to go to   trash:/   ?15:56
Xbehaveif i dont install cpu freq controlling software is the laptop set to run in dynamic mode or will it be running full speed all the time15:58
SelanitTypically, my network stops functioning about 2-5 minutes after I boot.  I can get it to work again by running ifdown wlan0, rmmod rt61, and modprobe rt61.  But sometimes when I do that the whole system freezes.  I'm heartily sick of the whole stupid thing.  I wish my network would just freaking work.15:58
JoshOvkiXbehave it is set to dynamic. But if you click the batter icon you can set what it does when plugged in and unplugged15:58
BluesKajSelanit, is this a lan or wan , like an office or is it your home network?15:59
SelanitLAN - I've got a little linksys router hooked up to a cable modem.  All was well until my landlady re-did the stucco on the apartment building, at which time the cable outlet by the computer got disabled.  I had to move the router to the opposite end of the apartment, and switch to a wireless card in my desktop.16:01
BluesKajoh i see it now an wan, ok16:01
Daisuke_Idowell, technically a WLAN16:01
BluesKaj!wireless | Selanit16:02
ubotuSelanit: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs16:02
hansjdhi there... i'm new to kubuntu, and i just downloaded the ATI driver from their webpage, and now i cant run the driver16:02
XbehaveJoshOvki: it does give me any options just when to suspedn /resume but aslong as its in dynamic i dont mind16:02
SelanitI went to a lot of trouble selecting my wireless card - I wound up with an Edimax EW-7128G, which has open source drivers.  But in order to get those open source drivers to function, I had to compile them manually and do a static configuration, and they still don't work reliably.16:02
hansjdshouldn't it just be sudo [file] ???16:03
BluesKajhansjd, which ati card to you have ?16:03
SelanitAnd thank you for the link, but I've read all of those wifi docs and indeed written some of them.16:03
psi_hi all whats the command again mount a ntfs drive?16:03
hansjdBluesKaj:  x1600 mobility16:03
Daisuke_Idothe edimax is a ralink 2500 chipset, isn't it?16:03
SelanitIt is an ralink chipset - hold on, lemme check the exact model16:03
SelanitIt's an ralink rt6116:04
Daisuke_Idothat should work out of the box16:06
Selanitlspci says: 00:08.0 Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI16:06
SelanitAnd it didn't.16:06
BluesKajhansjd, my advice is not to install the DL'd driver ...the proprietary ATI drivers don't work well on onboard/laptop graphics cards . You're better off trying the the restricted driver in system settings /advanced16:06
hansjdBluesKaj:  but they did work on my ubuntu installation i had...16:08
SelanitAt the moment I'm using the CVS serialmonkey driver ...16:08
SelanitMaybe I should check to see if there's a new release in the last month or so.16:08
hansjdBluesKaj: now i just can't find out to install the drivers16:08
hansjdthis is all i get when i try to install >sudo: ati-driver-installer-8-01-x86.x86_64.run: command not found<16:09
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BluesKajwell hansjd, if you must ...the command is: ' ./ati-driver-installer-8-01-x86.x86_64.run '16:10
hansjdhmm... ok16:10
hansjdguess it's is different in kubuntu then :S16:11
BluesKaj.run files use the ./ command prefix16:11
hansjdroot@hansjd-kubuntu:/home/hansjd# ./ati-driver-installer-8-01-x86.x86_64.run16:13
hansjdbash: ./ati-driver-installer-8-01-x86.x86_64.run: Permission denied16:13
hansjddoing something wrong?16:13
SelanitNope, the rt61 driver hasn't been updated since last April.  Sigh.16:13
LeeJunFanis it package mtools that allows relabeling dos partitions?16:13
acee1234i cant get k3b to correctly burn a disk. it tells me it completed successfully untill i try to read the data and it finds none. i look at the back of the disk and it looks like it did a crap job writing with the banding16:14
acee1234any ideas16:14
acee1234if no ideas any suggestions where to ask16:15
BluesKajhansjd, sudo /ati-driver-installer-8-01-x86.x86_64.run16:15
BluesKajerr sudo ./ati-driver-installer-8-01-x86.x86_64.run16:15
Daisuke_Idoacee1234: could be the drive, too16:15
acee1234Daisuke_Ido: works fine in windows boot16:15
JuJuBeeIs there a way to lock the screensaver and desktop background so students cannot change it?16:16
hansjdBluesKaj: this is all i get... sudo: /ati-driver-installer-8-01-x86.x86_64.run: command not found16:17
sigma_1234is it marked at executable?16:17
JoshOvkihansjd sudo ./ati-driver-installer-8-01-x86.x86_64.run16:18
JoshOvkiyou have to remember that first dot16:18
Daisuke_Idoyou are using the 64 bit version of kubuntu right?16:18
hydrogenJuJuBee: mm.. kiosk mode may allow you that extra bit of configuration16:19
hydrogen!find kiosk16:19
ubotuFound: kiosktool, datakiosk16:19
hydrogen!info kiosktool16:19
ubotukiosktool (source: kiosktool): tool to configure the KDE kiosk framework. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0-1.1ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 442 kB, installed size 1704 kB16:19
hansjdDaisuke_Ido: nope it is a x86 and a x86_6416:19
hansjdJoshOvki:  i have tried with dot also... same response16:19
BluesKajhansjd, i corrected the command , but I guess you didn't see that  sudo ./ati-driver-installer-8-01-x86.x86_64.run16:19
JuJuBeehydrogen : will that take over systemsettings? or should I lock that?16:20
hansjdBluesKaj:  i tried that too16:20
JoshOvkiok, hansjed   sudo chmod 777 ati-driver-installer-8-01-x86.x86_64.run16:20
JoshOvkithen run the sudo ./ati-driver-installer-8-01-x86.x86_64.run again16:20
iboueach time i launch kontakt, i have korganizers alarm deamon which is launched too. I don't want it and do not find any option to avoid that. Is there one ?16:21
hansjdJoshOvki: thanks alot16:21
BluesKajhansjd, or you could get exe permission in properties by right clicking on the file16:21
hansjdit worked16:21
* BluesKaj forgets ppl don't check for permissions 16:22
* JoshOvki agrees with BluesKaj16:22
sigma_1234ibou: i also want to do that16:22
hansjdBluesKaj: i have only tried ubuntu before this... i didn't have to check that there :/16:23
BluesKajJoshOvki, what about chmod +x ...is that similar to chmod 777 ?16:23
BluesKajhansen, well, this is kubuntu ... if you want the pleasures of kde , then you need to learn a few things is all :)16:24
JoshOvkiBluesKaj, i think with  +x  it just gives all execute permissions, chmodding gives everyone read, write and execute16:24
BluesKajoops sorry hansen16:24
JuJuBeehydrogen : you use kiosktool?16:25
hydrogenJuJuBee: I do not16:25
JuJuBeeLooks like "root" must be enabled to use it.16:25
simion314hi, how can i determine my boot partition?16:25
BluesKajok, JoshOvki , I'm the only user so I don't worry much about others :)16:25
JoshOvkiBluesKaj: same here :) then why i use 77716:26
BluesKajhansjd , if kubuntu is too difficult you can always install gnome desktop , if you wish16:26
Daisuke_Idothere's also a great functionality-limited kde clone available16:27
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BluesKajok JoshOvki , I'll make a note of that16:28
ubuntuhi all16:28
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ninHerany ono isp user down here ?16:31
abbehi channel16:32
abbeIs KDE 4.0.1 available in kubuntu 'gutsy' repositories ?16:33
ubotuKDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde416:33
BluesKaj!kde 4.0.116:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kde 4.0.1 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:33
abbeSlimeyPete: thanks16:34
SlimeyPete(the kde4 repos have been updated to 4.0.1)16:34
abbeSlimeyPete: another question, I'm currently using KDE 4 from PPAs and want to switch to gutsy repositories16:34
abbeSlimeyPete: can I simply remove all KDE4 packages, and comment out kubuntu-members-kde4 PPA, and then install all KDE4 packages, hmm...16:35
abbeIs this recommended ?16:35
SlimeyPeteyes, I think that should work. You should ask in #kubuntu-kde4 - someone there may have done it themselves.16:35
abbeokay thanks16:36
snarksterok i installoed kde4 but for some reason cant install amarok..16:36
ForgeAusI have myself an apt problem16:38
ForgeAusits trying to install ltsp-client-core16:38
ForgeAusthat didn't work because I'm not an ltsp client16:38
ForgeAuswhich is fine but it keeps telling me its an unmet dependancy and won't let me skip installing it16:38
ForgeAusI can't remove it either since it isn't installed16:39
JoshOvkiForgeAus:  sudo apt-get install -f16:39
Daisuke_IdoForgeAus: i hit a problem like that not too long ago16:39
Daisuke_Idoand JoshOvki, $50 says he's tried that16:39
Joker7680anyone with HAL experience?16:39
ForgeAusgrrr no josh doing that wasn't to install it16:40
ForgeAuserm sorry, don't that WANTS to install it16:40
Daisuke_IdoForgeAus: i think i actually went and did dpkg -r <package name from /var/cache/apt/archives/>16:41
alex_anyone know why i am forced to use the -nolapic boot option to get my kernel to load (duel core 64 but computer, running on Asus Crosshair Motherboard)16:41
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ForgeAusbut its not installed16:41
Daisuke_IdoForgeAus: same issue here16:41
Daisuke_Idobut that got it to quit trying to install it16:42
DareDevil_ can anyone recomend an ircd. i want the most secure and the most stable and with most veriety options and control16:43
ForgeAusum tried it and complained that it isn't installed already16:43
hydrogenDareDevil_: you can't have all of those things16:44
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snarksterso it appears that it is impossible to install amarok after you have installed the kde4.0 live cd16:44
DareDevil_well close to them?16:44
_Shade_hi there16:45
lg188_Shade_: hello16:46
_Shade_how to get support for mp3 playback etc when using 64 bit distro?16:46
Alex135_Shade_: install ubuntu restricted extras16:46
ForgeAusahh fixed it16:47
Alex135_Shade_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras16:47
ForgeAusall I had to do was dpkg -r the stuff that was complaining depended on it16:47
_Shade_Alex135: i did - it came to nothing16:47
lg188somebody .js knowledge please private chat (google gadget scripting)16:47
ForgeAus(I didn' trealize the package names were different16:48
Alex135_Shade_: try installing the mediubuntu repos... let me get the link16:48
ForgeAusyay flash for my konqi16:48
_Shade_Alex135: amarok still says that there's no mp3 support and asks if i'd like to install it... then it says it's installed and still no mp3 support :)16:48
_Redondos_When I try to put the "3D planet viewer" on my KDE 4 desktop it says: "could not load widget, 3d shaders not supported"16:49
Alex135_Shade_: see here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu16:49
Alex135_Shade_: that will tell you how to install the mediubuntu repos and will enable all kinds of fun stuff16:49
Alex135_Shade_: i am running ubuntu with KDE installed16:50
lg188how do you let a program know in a place where text should be that you mean a variable  in .js16:50
Alex135so esentially its Kubuntu, but it should all work the same16:50
_Redondos_When I try to put the "3D planet viewer" on my KDE 4 desktop it says: "could not load widget, 3d shaders not supported". How can I fix it?16:51
snarkster_Redondos_: your video driver isnt right16:51
_Shade_Alex135: the point is that it's hardy :(16:51
Alex135_Shade_ you are running hardy?16:51
snarksterlater guys16:52
_Shade_Alex135: yes16:52
Alex135_Shade_: i dont know much about hardy16:53
_Redondos_When I try to put the "3D planet viewer" on my KDE 4 desktop it says: "could not load widget, 3d shaders not supported". How can I fix it?16:53
hydrogen!patiences | _Redondos_16:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about patiences - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:54
hydrogen!patience | _Redondos_16:54
ubotu_Redondos_: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines16:54
_Shade_Alex135: how about the nvidia restricted drivers? can i still use them while on 64 bit box?16:54
Alex135_Shade_: you should be able to do that16:54
_Shade_Alex135: i persume it run in 32 bit mode since there's no 64 bit version (yet)16:56
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Alex135_shade_: i am runnig 64bit but i have nvidia drivers working16:56
Alex135_Shade_: i installed nvidia-glx-new16:57
ForgeAusnow its mscorefonts16:57
ForgeAusthey take ages to install lol16:57
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)16:58
Alex135i g2g, almost time for me to goto studdy hall16:58
UnDaany1 there?17:03
UnDacan u help me here >.>17:03
UnDai open configure n i get error with17:04
SlimeyPetewhat error?17:05
UnDait says library files for libpython2.5.so not found in path17:05
Obituaryhi you all17:05
UnDaits a clean version i just installed yesterday n updated :S17:05
UnDahavnt done anything17:05
UnDabut its hardy beta 4 i think17:06
Obituaryhi whare are you all fro17:06
iboueach time i launch kontakt, i have korganizers alarm deamon which is launched too. I don't want it and do not find any option to avoid that. Is there one ?17:06
SlimeyPeteUnDa: that might be the problem. Try asking in #ubuntu+1.17:07
UnDak lemme try17:07
UnDaubuntu+1? doesnt matter if its kubuntu?17:07
DareDevil_ can anyone recomend an ircd. i want the most secure and the most stable and with most veriety options and control17:08
SlimeyPeteUnDa: shouldn't matter, no. Ubuntu and Kubuntu are the same underneath.17:08
James__Hello All.. I am new to linux and I am running 7.10 and I think I "broke" my xorg.conf. All I get a login line and it will not load my desktop. I did look in my /ext/X11 directory and I have 5 different xorg.conf files each with a different number after it. What do I do?17:08
SlimeyPeteJames__: do a "less /var/log/Xorg.0.log" to see the error log17:09
SlimeyPetemaybe that will give you a clue17:10
James__ok it tells me (WW) The directory "/use/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist. Entry deleted from font path.17:12
James__is that the cause?17:12
SlimeyPeteprobably not, no. Press '/' and type EE then enter. That'll search the file for 'EE' (which indicates a serious error)17:12
SlimeyPeteuppercase EE, note (search is case-sensitive)17:13
lg188somebody .js knowledge ? (google gadget scripting)17:15
James__OK I have 3 lines 1st: (EE) Unable to find a valid framebuffer device, 2nd (EE) NV0: Failed to open framebuffer device, 3rd (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a suable configuration.17:15
James__at least thats all I can see on the screen if there are other's it scrolled past what I am able to display17:16
SlimeyPeteJames__: right, sounds like it's trying to load the wrong driver or is looking for the card in the wrong place.17:16
ForgeAusomg Lynx! now I do feel notsalgic! rofl17:17
ForgeAushmmm dillo is pretty much the quickest browser I've ever seen out there!17:18
ForgeAusof course good luck trying to use Youtube with it rofl17:19
_Shade_anyone using hardy on a 64 bit box?17:19
James__So what do I do in order to fix this?17:20
mkzI'm running kubuntu gutsy and OOo 2.3.0. I'm finding that occasionally when I launch scalc the window opens up in a full screen with no decoration to permit me to resize it.  It's not the same full screen as provided by ctrl-shft-J, as the menu and toolbars are visible, it's just missing the windowframe and title bar.17:20
mkzhas anyone else experienced any issues with OOo 2.3 and kubuntu (with or without Compiz)?17:21
savetheWorldhi guys- I have gotten used to using apt-get install xxx to install programs.  What do I do to use it to get sources?17:28
mkzif I'm not mistaken the source packages are usually appended with a -dev... so if you are using apt-get install xxx then you should see if there is an xxx-dev package and use apt-get for this as well...17:30
mkzsomeone correct me if I'm wrong17:30
savetheWorldthanks. I'll take a look17:30
savetheWorldmkz - well the sources I'm looking for are for bash.  But there is no -dev package for it.  I wonder if its part of the gnu-utils?17:32
mkzsavetheWorld: I couldn't say. sorry.  You may have to find the source for bash on it's website and download it as a tar file.17:32
DareDevil_is unreal ircd secure and stable as hybrid?17:34
savetheWorldmkz: Le Gaspe'!17:36
mkzsavetheWorld: qui?17:37
savetheWorldmkz:  Gasping in a french accent.. :-D17:38
mkzsavetheWorld: that seems to be chic these days (saw it on a forum port just yesterday).  What's the gasp for?  You see the source or are daunted by the tast?17:39
savetheWorldSee Pepe' Le'Pue -- Warner bros cartoons17:39
savetheWorldmkz: you have to be an old geezer or a real cartoon afficianado to remember him17:40
* mkz both old geezer and cartoon nut17:40
MadTonycompared to? most other nin wn users are old geezers in that respect, all the kids care about is games..17:41
mkzI've just downloaded bash 3.2 from http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/bash/.  It's not so bad17:42
savetheWorldmkz: me too17:42
mkzmine builds right out of the tar17:43
mkzare you looking to do something particular?17:43
mkzbtw - qui or ce qui is french for what... :)17:43
mkzthough I suppose I should have written it as "Le What?"... :)17:44
savetheWorldmkz: I just wanted to read the sources.  I'm trying to decode why i cant reset the location of the history file on kubuntu as i have on others *NIXes in the past.17:47
UnDahey u got any idea of how can i make kubuntu look like this? http://b2dbuntu.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/welcome.png17:47
SSJ_GZUnDa: That's just a mockup.17:48
SSJ_GZ(of KDE4)17:48
UnDabrb ima retart17:49
mkzyou might take a peak at cairo-dock if you want that taskbar now...17:52
_Shade_i have changed the sound server to alsa and i have no sound. How do i get the arts back? i have no such option in kcontrol17:55
mkzquestion: how do you save default settings for the "Advanced options of a task in the taskbar (and what is the taskbar called in linux?)?17:59
mkzI guess it's called the kde panel17:59
mkzso, when I right click on a process listed in kde panel and select the Advanced menu option I can choose such things as Always On Top and Full Screen.  I have a problem where some applications set these settings and I want to be sure they don't.  Any ideas?18:00
mkzit appears the menu I'm talking about is called the Operations menu18:02
venikcan anyone help with SAMBA configuration?  I am trying to share a printer and a folder with a WINDOWS XP machine18:03
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vedavoxcam someone verify something for me before I sub a bug report?18:07
vedavoxis amarok 1.4.8 failing to submit to last.fm, tried 2 PC's both saying 'QObject::connect: Incompatible sender/receiver arguments' in the terminal18:08
UnDagot some trubles again >.>18:09
UnDawith screen configuration editor18:09
UnDawhen i open it shows a blank error18:09
UnDait says nothin18:10
_Shade_ey how do i use the strigi thingy? it doesn't find anything :P18:10
vedavox_Shade_: you have to let it compile a database first, personally I just use kfind18:11
UnDan it does search lol just oppened it18:12
vijay_after some time of connection, speed become slower , any help?18:17
=== gerhardkkk is now known as gerhardkde4
vedavoxvijay_: anything taking up process time?18:19
vedavoxvijay_: use ctrl + esc to bring up the process table18:19
simion314hi, i do not have a floppy drive and i need an windows xp boot floppy disk, i found on the web an .exe file and a .zip file but not a .img file, i need a .img file18:20
hansjdanyone know a good C++ IDE for kubuntu?18:21
gerhardkde4hansjd: kdevelop rocks18:23
hansjdgerhardkde4: thnx18:23
* DareDevil_ asks last question - where do you think InspIRCd stands. is it as close to security and stability as hybrid has ?18:24
simion314hi, i do not have a floppy drive and i need an windows xp boot floppy disk, i found on the web an .exe file and a .zip file but not a .img file, i need a .img file18:30
teo-where can i find the packages i have downloaded using apt-get ?????18:31
stdinteo-: why not just let apt-get download them?18:32
emilsedghteo-: /var/cache/apt/archives18:32
emilsedghhowdy stdin?18:34
stdinwas that a question? ;)18:34
DareDevil_the comparison shows irc inspircd has all the options and supports. i dont know is it stable and secure as hybrid is and will it give me more control or give limitations...18:36
Xbehave_i want to make a director that users can write to but they cant delete the whole dir, what permisions do i set? i tried chown root.users then chmod 77518:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about workspacwe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about workspaces - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about workspace - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:48
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.18:48
ddelonyMy compiz cube is just a rectangle.18:48
=== valentin413 is now known as valentin413_
draikWhat is a good video capture card that I can use with Kubuntu?18:49
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion18:50
ddelonyI'm tyring to add workspaces to my desktop, but I can't seem to find the setting.18:56
trond_my question is: is it possible to get write access to windows partitions/disks when running kubuntu? i have them all mounted..'18:56
puffandstuffEvery kde application i run under ubuntu is so laggy (freezes + refresh latency etc) i can't run kdevelop or even kdiff for exemple, please help :"(18:57
psi_puffandstuff: i had the same problem18:59
puffandstuffpsi_, you solved it ?18:59
stdinddelony: system settings -> Desktop -> Multiple Desktops18:59
psi_yes but not in a good way puffandstuff have you been messing with compiz-fusion?19:00
stdintrond_: yes, with ntfs-3g19:00
stdin!ntfs-3g | trond_19:00
ubotutrond_: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions19:00
puffandstuffpsi_, messing ? well when i activate fusion it works correctly but i desactivate it19:01
psi_puffandstuff: i think it was compiz-fusion that cause the problem the only way i fixed it was to reinstall kubuntu from scratch19:02
psi_since doing that haven't touched compiz again and it is sweet as a nut19:03
puffandstuffpsi_ omg, well i've better to review my configuration19:03
psi_puffandstuff: i tried that but i couldn't solve it19:03
psi_i had nothing on here to loose19:04
puffandstuffpsi_, i've a lot of work on this station so i cant do this now19:04
psi_fair enough19:05
ubotuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke19:15
stdinsome people are so impatient19:16
=== no0tic_ is now known as no0tic
klu4ikwho from Russia?19:23
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto19:25
=== paolo is now known as paolotip
=== sam64 is now known as Goop2
Goop2I keep getting errors where programs can't connect to JACK19:31
ddelon1I decided to go back to regular Ubuntu, but the Kubuntu boot screen is still there. I already changed back to GDM.19:32
venikstill looking for help with SAMBA.  When I try to add shares to it (folder or printers), the WINDOWS machine on the local network fails to see them19:32
venikI am running Kubuntu 7.1019:32
jcgkffycsis hardy going to have kde 4 in it?19:36
unagihow do i use my webcam with msn or aim in kubuntu, i know it works because tvtime gives me video from it?19:48
JoshOvki_try  aMsn19:50
unagi ty19:52
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fouafondsalut tout le mnde!19:54
fouafondya qqun?19:55
BluesKaj!fr | fouafond19:55
ubotufouafond: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.19:55
fouafondqqun peu m'aider je suis nouveau sous linux19:55
geniifouafond: Anglais ici19:57
liz_Hey all. Anyone know how to get the Guest account to access the internet?20:13
trappistthe internet has a guest account?!20:15
liz_no Guest log in with kubuntu20:16
capricorn_tmhi there :)20:17
Limbeauxnewbie question.  i have debian etch w/ kde3 installed.  is there a way to upgrade to kubuntu or do i have to start over?20:17
capricorn_tmAnyone has Kde4 installed here?20:17
capricorn_tm@limbeaux, I think the two are not compatible mate. You'll have to reinstall over20:18
emilsedgh!kde4 | capricorn_tm20:18
ubotucapricorn_tm: KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde420:18
capricorn_tmokay thanks :)20:19
liz_when I log in as a Guest on kubuntu I can't access the internet... anyone know why?20:24
liz_no dsl, connecting wirelessly20:27
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ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs20:30
Tm_Tliz_: does those help?20:30
liz_Tm_T: checking it out now, thx20:33
MilhousePunkRockHello everyone!20:35
MilhousePunkRockI am looking for a wysiwyg xml editor for KDE... Any ideas?20:36
Tm_TMilhousePunkRock: what kind of xml? as in, xml can be a lot of things20:37
martijnvanvlietMilhousePunkRock: try kompozer20:37
MilhousePunkRockTm_T: Well, mainly I just want to change a amarokfs theme to fit my needs20:38
MilhousePunkRockand I am not willing to actually learn xml for that20:38
MilhousePunkRockmartijnvanvliet: Thanks, I will look into it20:38
martijnvanvlietMilhousePunkRock: it will do html, dunno if it will do xml20:38
martijnvanvlietMilhousePunkRock: otherwise there is quanta, but that is not xml20:39
Tm_TMilhousePunkRock: heh, then "any browser + text editor" should be fine, though, I do it testing with amarok directly20:39
martijnvanvlieti mean not wysiwyg20:39
=== manuel_ is now known as Holden
MilhousePunkRockwhat apt-cache show kompozer tells me seems to be exactly what i am looking for20:40
MilhousePunkRockTm_T: You missed the WYSIWYG part ;)20:40
Tm_TMilhousePunkRock: no I didn't but there's no better way to see what you get ;-P20:41
Holdenhello, I guess this is a common problem but I can't get around it. I'm using Ubuntu and installed KDE. I have a USB external drive which GNOME automatically mounts with no problem. However in KDE it won't mount until I actually try to access it with dolphin. Also I had to uncheck "mount as user" to be able to mount it. I want it to mount automaically at startup, any ideas?20:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:41
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter20:41
MilhousePunkRockbah, kompozer is gtk20:42
matahariis there an extra channel for hardy-stuff?20:43
MilhousePunkRockmatahari: #ubuntu+120:44
martijnvanvlietmatahari: yes there is: #ubuntu+120:44
MilhousePunkRockkompozer does not open the amarokfs xml file20:45
martijnvanvlietMilhousePunkRock:  i dunno, but xml is structure based anyways, not content20:45
linux_anybody that can help me with an installation question?20:50
neopsychecan someone help me compile and / or install20:57
emilsedgh!ask | neopsyche20:57
ubotuneopsyche: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)20:57
neopsychecan someone help me compile and/or install XDTV20:58
Holdenis there a way to decrease the lag when I do the selection box with the mouse ?21:00
savetheWorldHolden: make sure all the animation and special effects are turned off?21:18
HoldensavetheWorld:  they are21:22
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=== khalid__ is now known as khalid_
savetheWorldoh. :-(21:22
reaperdragonwhat program can i use to burn a mp3 cd not the same as a audio cd21:34
jpatrickreaperdragon: k3b?21:35
reaperdragonbut it wont burn mp3 cd21:35
reaperdragoni mean i dont fully understand21:35
reaperdragona cd that has a list of mp3s on it for my car cd player to play21:36
reaperdragonany advice21:36
jpatrick!info libk3b2-mp3 | reaperdragon21:38
ubotureaperdragon: libk3b2-mp3 (source: k3b): The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-0ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 43 kB, installed size 116 kB21:38
MagicFabI'd like to know what would be a good replacement or equivalent backup application for kdar - http://kdar.sourceforge.net/21:40
MagicFabKdar was dropped after Edgy21:41
=== mrdigital-nick is now known as mrdigital
jaweeMagicFab: I've never used KDar, but possibly Konserve?21:43
jaweeMagicFab: If not, take a look at http://directory.fsf.org/category/bu/21:44
MagicFabjawee, hmm.... no updates since dapper, mailing list dead :(21:46
neo22So, uh, is there a way to run awn with kde 4 + hardy heron?21:46
MagicFabjawee, tx for the URL21:46
jaweeMagicFab: I personally just use bash scripts :)21:46
jaweeanyway gtg21:47
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MagicFabjawee, "keep"  seems more like it21:48
neo22Also, what is the channel for heron?21:48
MagicFab-> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=keep&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all21:48
batis610i can't access to my external hard disc, i have this message: an error occured while accessing 'MyBook', the system said:org.freedesktop.hal.device.permissiondeniedbypolicy: hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000.... i have gutsy kde421:52
ArtimusHow can I tell where a package is installed from?  I'm trying to figure out if the package I have is from gutsy-proposed or not.21:53
crazy6why doesn't my sound work when I come back from Sleep ; did I do something to offend it?21:56
ForgeAusum what to do when your system locks up saying Not starting WINGs display manager (WDM); it is not the default display manager21:56
=== michael is now known as sammy-afk
Daisuke_Idocrazy6: are you by any chance using a dellbuntu?21:58
crazy6Daisuke_Ido: nah, Lenovo21:58
Daisuke_Ido!mount | batis61021:58
ubotubatis610: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter21:58
Daisuke_Idocrazy6: same issue i'd imagine...  sometimes it just doesn't come back after sleep21:58
Daisuke_Idoi don't remember how to fix it :(21:59
sammy-afkanyone have ffmpeg installed and want to take 2 seconds to try to have it convert a shn file for me and confirm this crazy behavior? ffmpeg seems to continue on forever as if the shn file has no end, it's crazy.21:59
crazy6hrm I can't seem to restart the sound system via the KDE control panel22:00
psi_sammy-afk: sure why not22:00
psi_sammy-afk: what file u trying to convert22:00
tininHow could I know wich is my graphic card?22:01
ForgeAusum what to do when your system locks up on startup saying Not starting WINGs display manager (WDM); it is not the default display manager???22:02
jpatricktinin: lspci | grep "VGA"22:02
ArtimusWhy won't apt download the latest flash plugin for me?  I have proposed enabled.  It's sticking with 9.0.48.  9.0.115 is listed, but apt will not download it.22:02
Daisuke_IdoArtimus: /topic22:03
Daisuke_IdoForgeAus: you never even get to KDM>22:03
ArtimusDaisuke_Ido: That's not answering why it won't install the latest version.22:04
ForgeAusthats right22:04
ForgeAusjust text screen still22:04
sammy-afkoh no, did psi_ leave? that'll teach me to ignore joins/parts/quits :/22:04
* sammy-afk checks whowas. rats!22:04
sammy-afkanyone else with ffmpeg and two seconds willing to dl this .shn file so I can confirm this crazy behavior and file a bug?22:05
ForgeAusline before it says * Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)22:05
neopsychehi. how do i build from source?22:05
jpatrick!b-e > neopsyche (see pm from ubotu)22:05
ForgeAusno keys seem to do anything here22:05
ForgeAusi can use alt-f keys to get to different screens but they're all blank22:06
ForgeAusis there a way to get to a prompt?22:07
virnikhi there, can somebody help me out with suspend? when I suspend computer by classical command echo -n mem > /sys/power/state, my computer gone to sleep. if I woke it up, it will wake up, but then suspend again. I have to wake it again, to make it work. can somebody help me out?22:07
virnikForgeAus: CTRL+ALT+F122:07
virnikForgeAus: and it is not prompt, it is shell22:08
ForgeAusvirnik I havn't got that far yet22:08
ForgeAusits still in the f1 screen22:08
ForgeAusno X yet22:08
virnikForgeAus: ah so22:08
sammy-afkneopsyche: you want to build a project from source that doesn't already have a ubuntu or debian package? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall22:08
virnikForgeAus: so, what is your problem?22:08
ForgeAusI can't use the computer22:08
ForgeAusits hung during login script22:09
ForgeAusno prompts of any kind no shell no nothing22:09
virnikForgeAus: how?22:09
virnikForgeAus: it is easy22:09
neopsychesammy-afk: yes because the deb says dependency problem22:09
ForgeAuswhat is easy?22:09
virnikForgeAus: just press ESC when booting GRUB22:09
virnikthen press E on second line22:09
ForgeAusoh yeah um grub22:09
virnikedit it22:09
sammy-afkneopsyche: and you can't fill the dependency with an already existing package?22:09
ForgeAuswait lemme see if grub works here22:09
virnikand add single at the end22:09
virnikForgeAus: it works, it is standard now22:10
virniknow, it will boot up to single user mode22:10
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virniku will have no networking, nothing, but u can easily start it up22:10
virniknow, just give system root pass, and u are in22:10
virnikit is much more easier22:11
ForgeAusum no grub22:11
virnikForgeAus: r u using lilo?22:11
ForgeAusmust b22:11
ForgeAusor something22:11
virnikForgeAus: it is similiar22:11
virnikwhat distro u got?22:11
virnikit is almost the same22:11
virnikjust look to google22:12
virnikcan't remember from spin, which shortcuts lilo uses22:12
ForgeAusit goes 2 quick thru startup22:12
ForgeAuscan't keep up22:12
ForgeAusand no scrollbar to scroll back :(22:12
virnikwhy are u using such distro?22:12
ForgeAusI can type22:12
virnikForgeAus: this is #kubuntu channel22:12
virnikno AndLinux chan22:13
ForgeAushehe andlinux is kubuntu :)22:13
virnikso it is somewhat ....strange22:13
ForgeAusthats the distro22:13
ForgeAusits just embedded in WindowsXP22:13
virniknever heard of it22:13
ForgeAus(ie using coLinux)22:13
ForgeAusand Xming for Xserver22:13
virnikcan't help u then...22:13
ForgeAusbut even with kubuntu native I've had similar problems22:14
virnikno experiences with such thing...once its not pure linux...it can't enter my HDD22:14
virnikForgeAus: which problems?22:14
virnikcan u tell me again?22:14
ForgeAuswhen something fowls up during boot and you don't get a prompt (and/or KDM)22:14
ForgeAuswhat 2 do?22:14
virnikcos in native kubuntu or ubuntu, it is easy to fix such things22:14
ForgeAusfor you maybe22:14
ForgeAusI'm not that well versed in these things22:14
virnikin my case22:15
virniki should swictch to single user mode22:15
virnikpass root password22:15
virnikthen fire up eth device, atp-get install mc22:15
ForgeAusctrl alt del restarts22:15
virnikrun mc, and look to /var/log/messages or dmesg22:15
virnikForgeAus: no22:15
ForgeAusI can't run mc without a prompt22:15
virnikctrl+alt+del restarts only when computer is fully operating22:16
virnikotherwise, it will freeze at runleve 122:16
ForgeAusgrr its past the bootloader anyway22:16
virnikare u sure, that there is no GRUB?22:16
ForgeAusits mounted filesystems too I think22:16
virnikubuntu distros are supplied by it by default22:16
ForgeAusnot quite sure no grub but I don't get to go to grub22:16
ForgeAusyeah thats what I thought was weird too22:17
virnikForgeAus: as I said, just press ESC after reset22:17
virnikpress, press, press22:17
virnikit shall work22:17
virnikonce u'll get GRUB menu22:17
virniku can do more things22:17
virnikit have wait time 0, by default I think22:18
ForgeAusno esc doesn't do anything22:18
ForgeAuscontinually pressing it22:18
virnikare u sure u are sitting at front of computer, and no TV? :-)))22:18
ForgeAus(I sent a ctrl+alt+delete to the terminal)22:18
ForgeAusyes it is a PC22:18
Daisuke_Ido!attitude | virnik22:18
ubotuvirnik: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines22:18
Daisuke_Ido!u | virnik22:18
ubotuvirnik: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..22:18
ForgeAusI'm in windows still the console is in a shell (emulated under XP)22:19
ForgeAusI need to get it to boot tho22:19
virnikDaisuke_Ido: what is problem with my lang?22:19
hydrogeny do ppl care about the way things r ritten?22:19
virnikhydrogen: i dunno why...strange,isn't it?22:19
virnikhydrogen: while I use shortcuts, it makes my typing speed more efficient...so y should I care?22:20
ForgeAusvirnik like I said earlier its mounted filesystems and halfway thru running a script22:20
=== aharoon is now known as memoriesdies
virnikForgeAus: it is really strange. u cant go to the GRUB, nor get single user mode...22:20
ForgeAuswhat is single user mode?22:21
Chris_SwiftHello all, I have recently installed Kubuntu and right now I am using GNOME, I want for firefox to be my default browser, but whenever I click a link from Konversation, it asks me which program to open the link with, can anyone help out?22:21
virnikForgeAus: it is special run level22:21
ForgeAusvirnik I don't think it boots via grub22:21
nosrednaekimForgeAus: "recovery"22:21
virnikForgeAus: once u get to it, u will see. no network by default22:21
ForgeAusahh recovery, no I don't et that option22:21
virnikno root pass need22:21
neo22Adept froze on me.22:21
ForgeAusseems to start after that22:21
neo22And I had to kill it.22:21
nosrednaekimChris_Swift: can't you say "set app as default"?22:21
neo22But I can't use the repos now.22:21
ForgeAus(or with something else instead)22:21
virnikand u have full right to fix yo' system22:21
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »22:21
neo22Could not get lock var/lib/dpkg/lock yada yada yada22:21
ForgeAusif it were native I could just boot into live CD :)22:22
Chris_Swiftnosrednaekim: Is that a new function, I had to install version 6.0622:22
virnikForgeAus: true22:22
memoriesdieshi i want to ask how to make arabic subtitles display for movies it appears foregin simpoles and i cannt display arabic id3 but any arabic files i can read them good22:22
ForgeAusanyway this is gutsy not feisty like my CD is22:22
virnikliveCD is more efficient, sometime22:22
ForgeAusvirnik any other ideas?22:22
nosrednaekimChris_Swift: no... it should be an option in the dialog that pops up.22:22
virniku can use easily chroot to yo' disk, and make all administrative thingies22:22
nosrednaekimChris_Swift: can you tell if its a GOME dialog or a KDE dialog?22:22
virnikForgeAus: out of mind...sorry...but if u find out, just lemme know...it is really interesting22:23
hydrogenteh easy way to tell22:23
ForgeAusvirnik any way I can get to some kinda prompt (or bypass the error)?22:23
hydrogendoes it have more than one button on the bottom22:23
Chris_Swiftnosrednaekim: I have no idea, how can I tell?22:23
virnikcan somebody help me out with suspend? when I suspend computer by classical command echo -n mem > /sys/power/state, my computer gone to sleep. if I woke it up, it will wake up, but then suspend again. I have to wake it again, to make it work. can somebody help me out?22:23
virnikForgeAus: that was how to bypass it, as I said u22:23
virnikcan u tell me on which service it frozen?22:24
nosrednaekimChris_Swift: well, the widget style should look different22:24
ForgeAusI Set KDM to be the default but its trying to load WDM instead22:24
Chris_Swiftnosrednaekim: Do you have an example screenshot?22:24
virnikForgeAus: i remember that some years ago, this was caused by NTP daemon, or sendmail...but it was RedHat problems with early Fedora 122:24
nosrednaekimvirnik: use kpowermanager22:24
virniknosrednaekim: NO22:24
virniknosrednaekim: to be clear22:24
virniknosrednaekim: it is unusable22:24
virniknosrednaekim: cos I am using NVIDIA22:25
nosrednaekimChris_Swift: unfortunately, no since I ham using KDE4 and it would look totally different22:25
ForgeAusthe actual error message is Not starting WINGs display manager (wdm); it is not the default display manager22:25
virniknosrednaekim: and u know what....NVIDIA drivers got serious problems with bypasing VBE states.22:25
Chris_Swiftnosrednaekim: I will upload an SS to imageshack22:25
nosrednaekimForgeAus: an you do a ctrl+alt+f2?22:25
virnikeven with debug and some hours spend on it, I make it usable only halfway22:25
nosrednaekimChris_Swift: ok22:25
ForgeAusyes nos22:25
virniksometime it frozen, sometime not22:25
ForgeAusbut no prompt there22:25
virnikbut now, I have made and written my own scripts to /etc/acpi22:25
virnikits working really nice22:26
virnikonly ugly thing is, that I must wake it up twice, after suspend22:26
virnikcos it will wake up, and then sleep again22:26
memoriesdies hi i want to ask how to make arabic subtitles display for movies it appears foregin simpoles and i cannt display arabic id3 but any arabic files i can read them good22:26
virnikok, another wakeup, and it is ok22:26
nosrednaekimForgeAus: ok, what you need to do is chroot in from a liveCD and change the default display manager back to KDM22:26
nosrednaekimvirnik: probably someting wrong with your script22:26
virnikmemoriesdies: just choose your arabic font, and tell mplayer, what is it's encoding22:27
ForgeAushehe nos, that would be ok it would work, but I'm booting from within WinXP (I think this Kubuntu uses lilo instead of grub too)22:27
virnikand tell it what encoding r u using in that subtitle file22:27
ForgeAus(its AndLinux)22:27
Chris_Swiftnosrednaekim: http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1268/screenshot1qc1.png22:27
virniknosrednaekim: I dont think so22:27
Chris_Swiftnosrednaekim: There ya go22:27
nosrednaekimChris_Swift: gracias22:27
memoriesdiesi did that with kafien and vlc and didnt appear correct22:28
nosrednaekimForgeAus: eh?22:28
virniknosrednaekim: just look here: http://www.abclinuxu.cz/forum/show/16447722:28
virnikthere is that script written22:28
Chris_Swiftnosrednaekim: Oh, I fip,orgot something very omportant22:28
ForgeAushehe check it out (I know its kubuntu-based because it tells me)22:28
virnikwhat can be wrong with it?22:28
virnikit works nice22:28
Chris_Swiftnosrednaekim: Sorry wrong screenshot22:28
virnikbut once I make my computer sleep, I have to wake it up twice22:28
nosrednaekimForgeAus: kubuntu based is not kubuntu......22:29
ForgeAusyeah nos thats right22:29
hydrogenkubuntu is based on kubuntu22:29
ForgeAusbut same thing would be if I were using kubuntu itself, there has to be a way to do something during a failed boot script22:29
hydrogenI misread that22:29
hydrogenI thought you said kubuntu is not based on kubuntu22:29
hydrogenyou didn't22:29
Daisuke_Idoyou know how when there's a language barrier, the person that has a different native or well-spoken language can come across sounding like a...  well, like an ignorant tool?22:29
ForgeAushehe hydrogen its not kubuntu based on kubuntu22:29
Daisuke_Idoor possibly an arrogant tool22:30
geniikubuntu is not based on kubuntu22:30
Chris_Swiftnosrednaekim: http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/7356/screenshot2fb9.png22:30
Chris_Swiftnosrednaekim: The proper image22:30
nosrednaekimForgeAus: which means you are probably in the wrong channel..... if it can't be fixed with a liveCD, I have no idea.22:30
ForgeAusits AndLinux which is a embedded kubuntu-based distro in Windows22:30
* genii reels and sips more coffee22:30
virnikDaisuke_Ido: it is not true22:30
ForgeAus(using colinux which basically emulates the kernel)22:30
Daisuke_Idovirnik: what isn't true?22:30
nosrednaekimForgeAus: sorry, can't help you with that!22:30
virnikDaisuke_Ido: I am not american, nor british, nor any other english-native-speaking person...but still, I know slang...22:31
virnikso where is problem? I am using it everywhere22:31
Daisuke_Idoyou're so vain...  you probably think that quote was about you22:31
gorongoroany software for kubuntu,  canfrog¿?¿?22:31
* Daisuke_Ido apologizes to carly simon22:32
virnikDaisuke_Ido: and I do not think that I am arogant or ignorant... when u use something for a long time, u'r just used to it, that's all22:32
virnikDaisuke_Ido: sure I think that, cos u said similiar thing before...22:32
nosrednaekimChris_Swift: interesting! it must be a new feature :)22:32
Daisuke_Idoit was, of course, and i didn't say you thought you were ignorant or arrogant22:32
nosrednaekim!ot | virnik Daisuke_Ido22:32
ubotuvirnik Daisuke_Ido: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!22:32
Daisuke_Idoi'm saying you're coming off sounding like an arrogant tool22:32
Chris_Swiftnosrednaekim: Ok well I am updating Ubuntu right now so we will have to wait and see22:33
Daisuke_Idowho would be better suited for the attitudes in #debian22:33
virniknosrednaekim: nice, but nobody cares about my Q22:33
virnikand I cant move without help now22:33
Daisuke_Idoby the way, suspend works fine with nvidia22:33
virnikDaisuke_Ido: lol, just read google22:34
virnikit have so many problems22:34
Daisuke_Idowell, let's see...22:34
virnikclean install of gutsy 64b22:34
virnikand do not work22:34
Daisuke_Idosee, you never said 64 bit22:34
virnikok, so I have made some modifications22:34
virnikno way22:34
Daisuke_Idoand if you made modifications, you're on your own22:34
virnikproblem is, that it IS working22:34
Daisuke_Idohave fun, good luck22:34
virnikah....do not say that, it sounds really stupid.22:34
hydrogeneveryone makes modifications to their system22:35
virnikok, recapitulation, ok?22:35
Daisuke_Idohydrogen: not everyone makes modifications to their suspend and resume scripts22:35
virnik1] first for all, its 64b distro22:35
virnik2] second, clean install, and it do not work22:35
hydrogennope, instead I have to rewrite the kdm init script because the default one is stoopid22:35
virnik3] with nvidia-glx-new, it do not work22:35
nosrednaekimvirnik: stop stop.... we can't help you with your acpi script.... ask the person who made the acpi script, ok?22:36
virnikproblem of points made above is, that it actually suspend, but wakes up to blank black screen22:36
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virniknosrednaekim: I am not asking about MY SCRIP!22:36
ubotuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.22:36
virniki am asking about suspend progress from KDE and kubuntu native scripts invented to it22:36
sam64_trying to burn a copy of UbuntuStudio, but K3b can't see my DVD22:37
virnikI have found out, how to make it work22:37
nosrednaekimvirnik: well, that would be knetworkmanager, or guidance-power-manager then.22:37
virniknosrednaekim: both are uninstalled22:37
virniknosrednaekim: I am using kpowersave22:37
virnikbut kpowersave have this features off22:38
nosrednaekimvirnik: well, thats what we support here, not 3rd party acpi scripts.22:38
virnikso my question is, what can interfere?22:38
Daisuke_Idoif i say what i would like, i would probably not be allowed in here anymore, so i'm going to go get a drink, pop some popcorn, and just watch22:38
virniknosrednaekim: damn... I want just one info22:38
nosrednaekimvirnik: interfere with WHAT?22:38
virnikcan u give me time to explain myself?22:38
nosrednaekimdo so in one complete message22:39
virniknosrednaekim: its hard when u bother only with "pure scripts" and Daisuke_Ido "it's not pure, u r on your own"22:39
nosrednaekimvirnik: just state your problem in one message if you want help.22:40
virnikwithout explaining22:40
virniknosrednaekim: I have posted it in one long message twice22:40
Daisuke_Idono, this is an official support channel, if you would like to use a customised script, it's recommended that you know what you're doing, because we dont.22:40
virnikno reaction22:40
virnikDaisuke_Ido: I am willing to use pure scripts, but they do not work22:40
virnikthat is the problem22:40
virnikwith nvidia driver from repo, it freezes on black screen. I can switch to X sometime, but mostly, it freezes.22:41
virnikkernel is alive, like network and sound too. only graphic card can't make it up. and that's your "pure" scripts22:42
Daisuke_Idoso instead of trying to fix it, you go to an unsupported solution, then come here when you need help with that.22:42
jpatrickvirnik: what does " pmi capabilities" give?22:42
holasomeone knows how to share pppoe between host and lient?22:42
virnikDaisuke_Ido: are u serious? i have spend more then eight hours on it22:42
virnikjpatrick: same22:42
virnikno change22:42
jpatrickto what?22:43
Daisuke_Idoah, and how was i supposed to know that?  i'm not a mind reader.22:43
virnikproblem is somewhere about warming up the card22:43
virnikevent with VBE restore false, it still cant make it through22:43
hydrogenDaisuke_Ido: stop trolling, if you can't be helpful its better to be quiet22:43
virnikDaisuke_Ido: true, u r not. but while I was explaining what i just tried, u blamed me for customizations22:43
virnikhydrogen: thx a lot22:44
neo22Damn. I can't get the ati drivers to stick. I go through this every time I upgrade.22:44
Daisuke_Idookay...  what video card22:44
neo22Ati 1900xtx.22:44
neo22It's saying mesa.22:44
Daisuke_Idonot you :)22:44
Daisuke_Idoi know nada about ati, sorry22:45
virnikDaisuke_Ido: Nvidia 7600 GO22:45
neo22oh :(22:45
nosrednaekimneo22: which drivers?22:45
virniknotebook version, made by ASUS22:45
virniklatest from oficial22:45
virnikbut latest from repo are the same22:45
virnikbut slower22:45
virnikDaisuke_Ido: its ASUS F3T AP008, if it helps22:46
nosrednaekimneo22: from the ati website, or from the restricted-manager22:46
virnikDaisuke_Ido: strange, that with other distros, this feature works fine. but I am with kubuntu too long, more then 4 years, so I do not want to switch distro22:47
neo22I added the bit about composite disable to my xorg.conf22:47
nosrednaekimneo22: ah.... do you have composite disabled in the xorg?22:47
nosrednaekimdid you restart X after that?22:48
neo22I think so.22:48
neo22I'll restart it to be sure.22:48
virnikso, after 8 hours of work on this, trying almost everything, I just switched to custom scripts. and it works nice. except that annoying wakeup, where I have to wake it twice...because after first wakeup, computer normally wake, but goes to sleep again22:48
holasomeone knows how to share pppoe between host and lient?22:48
nosrednaekimwell, you do need to restart after installing the drivers22:48
virnikhola: just allow packet forwarding22:49
bigdad1ei need help making my ip visible. instead of the im tryin gto run a source dedicated server and it wont work. can someone please help me?22:49
holavirnik: are you an expert?22:49
virnikhola: then on your host machine make NAT for your client22:49
virnikhola: kind of, if u know CZFree.Net22:49
virnikwireless broadband community of linux and unix networking specialists22:49
Daisuke_Idowith kubuntu for more tan 4 years?22:50
holavirnik: i tried in differetn way but the result is always that connection is not reacable formm host22:50
virnikDaisuke_Ido: not exactly....I switched from Fedora 322:50
nosrednaekimbigdad1e: ifconfig should show you..22:50
Daisuke_Idothe nvidia-glx-new and nvidia driver on the site are the same22:50
neo22still mesa.22:51
Daisuke_Idoi can't see why that would be an issue though :\22:51
virnikDaisuke_Ido: yep...22:51
virnikDaisuke_Ido: true, it is strange...22:51
virnikso it is why I am yelling here...22:51
virnikcos google can't help me out22:51
holavirnik: have you 10 minuto for me in order to drive me on it22:51
virnikso I have made my own script, it is really easy...and working22:52
virnikhola: sure22:52
virnikhola: what is your problem exactly?22:52
bigdad1ewhen i put the command in to run the server its telling me ipunkown22:52
holavirnik: let me summarized and i told you that nobody else has been able to help me22:53
virnikhola: stop stop stop22:53
virnikhola: just look inside your query22:54
holavirnik: which query22:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about srcds - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:54
virnikhola: is my case, but in your case, this is IP of your ppp022:54
bigdad1eis there a irc chat for srcds?22:54
bigdad1eor steam22:54
holavirnik: let me summarized hoh i did22:55
virnikhola: so change it22:55
virnikhola: if your ppp0 is working and host can reach internet, use script I have posted y22:55
virnikit is working fine22:55
virnikjust change IPs22:55
FrauHansenhm, when i change my static IP  via 'ifconfig eth0 xxx.xx.xxx.xxx' i can't surf afterwards because FF can't find the proxy. pinging LAN works. how come?22:55
holasorry where i find the script22:56
virnikhola: is IP of your client...so change it22:56
virnikhola: in your querry22:56
holahelp me22:56
virnikhola: damn, u got it in your querry22:56
holawhat do you mean with query22:57
virniki will not past it here, because it will make room flooded22:57
holai dont understand sorry22:57
Daisuke_Idohola: private message22:57
Daisuke_Idoand no, he doesn't22:57
nosrednaekimFrauHansen: youneed to set up a DNS server22:57
virnikprivate messages are forbidden here22:57
virniki will post it here22:57
virnikcan I?22:57
virnik20 lines22:57
Daisuke_Idobecause you can't send queries unless you register your nick22:57
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)22:57
Daisuke_Ido!register | virnik22:57
virnikjust joke22:58
ubotuvirnik: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration22:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ip - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:58
FrauHansennosrednaekim: you mean with the same command?22:58
virnikhola: I will post it on the web22:58
nosrednaekimFrauHansen: no.. you have to add it to the /etc/resolv.conf22:58
holavirnik: ok22:58
virnikhola: look here22:59
virnikI have made pastebin for 30 minutes22:59
FrauHansennosrednaekim: but it's in there. im surfing, lets say with xxx.xx.xxx.123 and when i change to ...124 inet is unreachable22:59
virnikso, u can copy it23:00
virnikeasy script23:00
virnikwhich actually works fine23:00
nosrednaekimFrauHansen: and you set the .123 address with ifconfig as well?23:00
Agent_bobin all truth. many times i have seen people paste to the channel 8 or 10 lines,  and then other users post 30+ lines reproving them and instructing them what to do in the feuture...      doesn't make sense when the channel is slow.   only when it's busy.23:01
nosrednaekimand running a red light is fine when there is no-one there as well ;)23:01
FrauHansennope. thats in /etc/network/interfaces and was cinfigured in kde-system-config-thingy23:01
nosrednaekimFrauHansen: ah... so try setting it to 124 there...23:02
Agent_bobnosrednaekim fine as in harms nothing, or fine as in wont get you a ticket ?23:02
nosrednaekimAgent_bob: well, fine in as harms nothing..... but if there is no-one there, you're not going to get a ticket either ;)23:03
Daisuke_Idounless there's a camera23:03
Agent_bobnosrednaekim never been mailed a ticket from an intersection camera eeh23:03
FrauHansennosrednaekim: my goal is actually a script to quickly change IPs. so i have to change interfaces and do /etc/init.d/networking restart ?23:03
holavirnik: iptables v1.3.6: host/network `IP_OF_CLIENT' not found23:03
holaptables v1.3.6: Bad IP address `IP_OF_PPP0'23:04
virnikhola: u must change it23:04
virnikhola: theese two are not variables23:04
virnikhola: just write there IP of your client23:05
virnikand IP of your ppp0 device23:05
Agent_bobFrauHansen you mean something like     ifconfig eth0 <new_ip>23:05
FrauHansenAgent_bob: yep, kind of23:05
Agent_bobor dhclient restart  ?23:06
nosrednaekimAgent_bob: nope....well,i've also never run a red :)23:06
FrauHansenAgent_bob: no, static IPs23:06
virnikAgent_bob: dhclient eth023:06
Agent_bobvirnik right.  was thinking the sysV interface.23:07
virnikAgent_bob: ah so...23:07
Agent_bobFrauHansen if static then ifconfig is probably your friend23:07
holavirnik: im sorry...it does not work23:07
Agent_bobFrauHansen why do you need to change static ip's ???     what are you cracking?  your neighbours wireless service ?23:09
virnikhola: it work23:09
virnikhola: this script is used by my sister now, cos she is using internet from my laptop23:09
FrauHansenAgent_bob: none of your business :D23:09
yasahirotell me... does anybody know of any decent video editors for kubuntu?23:09
nosrednaekimvirnik: because it works for you, doesn't mean it will work for someone else23:09
Agent_bobFrauHansen then the answers how to are none of your business.23:09
virniknosrednaekim: stop23:09
nosrednaekimyasahiro: i've heard good things about cinellera23:09
virniknosrednaekim: if he got ppp0 device23:10
Agent_bob!warez | FrauHansen23:10
ubotuFrauHansen: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o23:10
holavirnik: i belive that it works on your side23:10
virnikand he is able to connect to the internet23:10
virnikthere is no reason why it should not work23:10
virnikhola: ok, once again23:10
gaerohi there23:10
virnikwhat is your LAN IP?23:10
FrauHansenAgent_bob: that wasn't necessary :(23:10
virnikand what is your LAN IP of your guest?23:10
virnikhola: what is your network device name, which is used for LAN?23:11
Agent_bobFrauHansen was required.    <FrauHansen> Agent_bob: none of your business :D23:11
holavirnik: im created a client with virtualbox. Do ou think that could be it the reason?23:11
virnikhola: sure it can23:11
virnikhola: virtual machine is handled other way23:11
yasahirowhere can i get cinellera....23:11
virnikjust edit your virtual box config, and make it bridge networks23:11
nosrednaekim!find cinellera23:11
holavirnik: can we tri togheter?23:11
virnikwith your ppp023:11
ubotuPackage/file cinellera does not exist in gutsy23:12
virnikhola: nope. I am using vmware, not virtualbox23:12
holavirnik: i already created a bridge23:12
holaand a virtual interface23:12
virnikand can u ping from one to other?23:13
virnikcan theese network devices see each other?23:13
nosrednaekimyasahiro: not sure.... google it23:13
holaof course23:13
Daisuke_Ido!info cinelerra23:14
ubotuPackage cinelerra does not exist in gutsy23:14
ubotuCinelerra is a video editor and compositor that cannot be included in Ubuntu for legal reasons. Install instructions can be found on http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu23:15
Daisuke_Idoah ha!23:15
Daisuke_Idothere you are23:15
holavirnik: are you still there23:16
virnikhola: so...have u set your default route on your virtual machine?23:16
virnikcan u ping internet IPs? it can be only problem of DNS resolution, which u haven't set properly23:16
holavirnik: i want to ask you it. What address i have to set as gateway on client?23:16
virnikhola: I am, but I am leaving for few minutes for bath and smoke23:17
nosrednaekimAgent_bob: spelling is key :)23:17
virnikhola: on client, set your host's IP23:17
virnikhola: this is how routing works23:17
Agent_bobnosrednaekim is that why i'm always locked out ???23:17
virnikyour host is gateway here, for your guest system23:17
nosrednaekimAgent_bob: lol!23:17
* virnik gonna smoke...uaaah, Davidoff, what a pleasure!23:18
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ignoramushey guys... got a seemingly easy one for ya... How do i format a usb flash drive to ntfs?23:19
Agent_bobuse windows23:19
Daisuke_Idounless it's larger than 8gb or so, there's not much point23:20
Agent_bobbut i would sujest vfat23:20
ignoramusnaw, it's small, but i got it for free.  I'd like to use it at work, hence the ntfs..23:20
Daisuke_Idovfat would be a better choice23:20
Agent_bobbut i would sujest vfat23:20
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Daisuke_Idoignoramus: if you use windows at work, use vfat23:20
ignoramusDaisuke_Ido: OK, whats the command? is it with "mkfs"?23:21
XceIIJust put a new video card in, keeps saying, (loading local scripts), it has been sitting 30 mins, is there something wrong, or that i should do?23:21
Agent_bobignoramus mkfs.vfat /dev/<devicenode>23:21
ignoramusagent_bob: thanks23:21
nosrednaekimXceII: does recovery mode boot correctly?23:21
holavirnik: tell me when you are available23:22
bigdad1ecan someone please help me with srcds? having trouble and dont know what to do23:22
XceIIright now im on ubuntu, the problem is in ubuntu, noone in ubuntu is answering, how do i get to recovery mode in ubuntu, or how do i fix this?23:22
ignoramusAgent_bob: when i try it, ubuntu complains its a mounted file system, but its not even seen when unmounted... hmmm...23:22
Agent_bobso umount it first23:23
ignoramusAgent_bob: nm, it worked this time... thanks again23:23
nosrednaekimXceII: recovery mode is a grub boot menu option23:23
XceIIin ubuntu?, i never seen it23:23
Agent_bobsudo umount /dev/<devicenode> ;sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/<samenode>          <<< like so23:24
Agent_bobnosrednaekim that's   ffr23:24
nosrednaekimXceII: yup....23:24
nosrednaekimAgent_bob: what?23:24
kaminixnspluginviewer keeps crashing after the last update. :/23:25
Agent_bobsorry nosrednaekim not @ you23:25
XceIIlet me try again, thanks23:25
bruce_join #synce23:25
Agent_bob<ignoramus> that's   ffr23:25
bigdad1ehow do i change my ip settings?23:25
TonrenMy USB external drive isn't auto-mounting properly.  When I manually mount it, it works, but the auto-mount fails.23:25
* Agent_bob hates when text scrolls just at exectly the WRONG moment...23:25
virnikhola: back23:26
holavirnik: help me23:26
TonrenIt says, "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000"23:26
Agent_bobbigdad1e knetwork manager ?23:26
bigdad1ewont open for me23:27
Agent_bobbigdad1e static or dhcp ?23:27
bigdad1edont really know23:27
bigdad1enew to all this23:27
bigdad1etrying to set up srcds and the ip is unkown so it wont work23:28
Agent_bobthen what is about your ip that you are wanting to change ?23:28
virnikhola: glad to, but it seems hard to solve problem with such little info23:28
holavirnik: which info do you need23:28
virnikhave u set default GW on your guest?23:28
bigdad1eAdent_bob: can you RDC with me?23:29
bigdad1eand show me how to get the ip to work?23:29
holavirnik: route add -net default gw eth223:29
virnikso your GW have IP
bigdad1ei want my ip to be seen.23:30
yao_ziyuani wanna illustrate what's my dream os:23:30
holait is host ip23:30
Agent_bobbigdad1e what i'm saying in essense is this.  you probably don't need to mess with your ip if it's working and you don't know anything about it.   and if you are trying to setup srcds and it is complaining about an ip then work on srcds not on the ip.23:30
bigdad1ewhen i start my srcds it comes up ipunknown23:30
virnikwhat device is used to connect to LAN on your host?23:30
yao_ziyuanthis is a fedora8-kde-livecd installed as a virtual machine23:31
yao_ziyuantwo points:23:31
yao_ziyuan1. it has kde 3.5.823:31
holavirnik: i create a brdige br0 connected to eth023:31
virnikhola: wait23:31
virnikhola: why bridge?23:31
bigdad1eive looked all over and found nothing that helps me. i dont know what to do now23:31
yao_ziyuan2. it has chinese input (the 3rd tray icon from right)23:31
holavirnik: and so i create a virtual interface vbox23:31
virnikso again23:31
virnikno bridge please23:32
virnikdestroy that device23:32
Agent_bobwhat is  srcds  anyway ?23:32
virniku should have eth0 on host23:32
virnikand eth2 on guest23:32
Daisuke_Idoyao_ziyuan: it's not kubuntu, why are you bringing it up here?23:32
bigdad1esource dedicated server23:32
virniketh0 on host shall have
bigdad1efor steam/counter strike source23:32
yao_ziyuanDaisuke_Ido: because i want kubuntu to support chinese input like this one23:32
virniketh2 on guest shall have something like
virniknow u shall be able to ping from each to other23:33
hydrogen!skim | yao_ziyuan23:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about skim - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:33
holavirnik: whitout bridge the cleitn ip is very different23:33
yao_ziyuansome clues:23:33
hydrogen!scim | yao_ziyuan23:33
ubotuyao_ziyuan: Chinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM23:33
yao_ziyuan1. skim should be abandoned23:33
Agent_bobbigdad1e well i'm going to go out on a limb and say that when you configure srcds propperly for your system it will stop complaining about unknown ips23:33
virnikhola: just change it23:33
virnikto be in the same subnet23:33
yao_ziyuanthose distros who support chinese input perfectly (ubuntu, fedora8) don't use skim at all (even for kde)23:33
holavirnik: ok i have to close this connection now becouse is it attached with the bridge23:34
Agent_bobtry pointing it at localhost     good for testing23:34
holavirnik: may you wait a minuto23:34
Daisuke_Idobut...  what do they use?23:34
bigdad1ei did everything they way it was in the tutorial i did them on windows no problem but never on linux23:34
Daisuke_Idoyao_ziyuan: just for the record, scim is the default in ubuntu23:35
yao_ziyuanDaisuke_Ido: yes23:35
Agent_bobbigdad1e maybe google.com/linux   search for a howto setup srcds23:35
yao_ziyuanDaisuke_Ido: kubuntu should follow exactly the same steps that ubuntu installs chinese input functionality23:35
yao_ziyuanDaisuke_Ido: that way there will be a scim-gtk-frontend tray icon, even for kde23:36
bigdad1ebeen doing them for 26 hours now. having been to bed yet reading and trying new things so i came here23:36
Daisuke_Idoscim is a the common input method, ot23:36
sam64_I was trying to make a disk for UbuntuStudio, but K3b wont recognise my disk23:36
Daisuke_Idoas far as i know, it's usable just fine in kde23:36
yao_ziyuanDaisuke_Ido: with kubuntu's current way of installing scim, it doesn't work23:37
yao_ziyuanDaisuke_Ido: kubuntu's current approach is to use "skim" as a middleman23:37
bigdad1eill do it all over again and see what it does.23:37
yao_ziyuanDaisuke_Ido: and skim doesn't do the job at all23:37
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Agent_bobyao_ziyuan "kubuntu should follow exactly the same steps that ubuntu installs chinese input functionality" <<< wrong.  one is gnome the other is kde  they should not follow the same methoods because they are different environments.   i realize that kubuntu is broken and you should file a bug and offer to help with the fix if you have some special insight on that issue.  but trolling this channel day after day about that will23:38
Agent_boband you don't want that23:38
yao_ziyuanAgent_bob: i already filed one23:38
yao_ziyuanAgent_bob: yes i should put my new findings there23:39
hexchhello, how do I change premissions on hd so user can have root access to it alwaus ?23:39
Daisuke_Idoyao_ziyuan: so you sit back and wait, or you get the source and fix skim yourself23:39
yao_ziyuanDaisuke_Ido: my finding is that we should abandom skim and use the ubuntu/fedora way23:39
Agent_bobyao_ziyuan yes you should.  and you can update this channel but don't make a big deal out of something that most people can't do anything about anyway23:40
Daisuke_Idowhat *is* the fedora way23:40
Agent_bobyao_ziyuan they neither want to hear you complain about skim nor me compalin about timezone configurations.  both are in need of fixing.   but these guys aren't the ones to do it.23:41
Agent_bobnor me complain about kdm writing in /root   which i have done in the past...  ;/23:42
yao_ziyuani filed this before: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skim/+bug/18130023:45
yao_ziyuanand i have found how to solve it23:45
yao_ziyuani will put the solution both here and on the report23:45
xxBasYxxHow can I set up one keyborad shortcut when editing text for two actions: 1) select from kurzor to end of line 2) delete selection ... plz ?23:45
hola2virnik: are you there23:45
Daisuke_Idoyao_ziyuan: don't post it here23:46
Daisuke_Idojust put it in the bug report23:46
yao_ziyuanthen some general comments:23:48
yao_ziyuani think ubuntu/kubuntu's biggest competitor is fedora23:48
sam64_Linux isn't about competition23:51
hola2virnik: are you there23:51
Midtronichowdy, I'm trying to set up a second keyboard as dvorak.. it's recognized and working, I just don't know where to change the settings for it23:53
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marcus_hello. i have a slight problem. Apparently I need to have a lib to make my packages work. Can anybody tell me the command line option to fix this?23:54
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Midtronicsudo apt-get install <lib>23:56
marcus_but i have 68 packages that can not install so i dont know if i can do that.23:58
Midtronicthe dependencies should be taken care of by apt23:59

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