[00:00] <snarkster> intelikey: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7200
[00:01] <ahmos> !sensors
[00:01] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[00:02] <ddelony> !compositor
[00:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compositor - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:02] <ddelony> !composite
[00:02] <ubotu> Compiz-Fusion (and the older Compiz and Beryl) are window managers that employ the "composite" extension of X to draw windows using graphics cards' 3D hardware. They can additionally provide "desktop special effects" (such as the "cube") by means of plug-ins. Join #compiz-fusion for help and support with advanced features. See also « /msg ubotu compiz » and « /msg ubotu effects »
[00:05] <savetheWorld> Anyone here know the command to start a second X server up ?   it begins with "startx" but I cant recall the rest.
[00:07] <genii> You have to specify another default term like :1 since :0 will be in use obviously. The exact syntax however I forget at the moment
[00:08] <dbglt> -- :1 I think
[00:08] <savetheWorld> genii:  thanks
[00:11] <savetheWorld> startx -- :1 seems to work
[00:11] <ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL> Что вы думаете о КДЕ?
[00:11] <genii> savetheWorld: Good :)
[00:12] <genii> !ru | ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL
[00:12] <ubotu> ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[00:13] <FaiDillinGer> can someone please help me set up my wifi lan with a rt61 chipset ???  i fucked up with knetwork manager, and now it wont show my any wifi networks
[00:13] <FaiDillinGer> and i am using an rj45 cable right now
[00:13] <genii> FaiDillinGer: Remove any entries you may have made for it in /etc/network/interfaces and then knetworkmanager will not think it is a manually configured device
[00:14] <FaiDillinGer> genii : thx, but do i also have to remove things related to the 'lo' interface ?
[00:14] <giovannid> W SUSE
[00:14] <ubuntu> hallo, wer kann mir helfen
[00:14] <genii> FaiDillveinGer: No, just wlan0 or whater it used for the adapter identifier
[00:15] <FaiDillinGer> genii : thx , yes its wlan1
[00:15] <genii> !de | ubuntu
[00:15] <ubuntu> mein kubuntu startet nicht mehr
[00:15] <ubotu> ubuntu: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[00:15] <FaiDillinGer> genii : ill reboot and tell you about it, thx mate
[00:15] <ubuntu> oh sorry
[00:15] <genii> FaiDillveinGer: np
[00:16] <ddelony> How do I deactivate my proprietary video card driver/
[00:17] <FaiDillinGer> genii: thanks mate it worked ... but i got another problem now lol
[00:18] <ddelony> Never mind, found the menu option.
[00:18] <genii> FaiDillveinGer: Well, ask the channel and see who may know the solution :)
[00:18] <FaiDillinGer> well my problem is that my wifi connection will not work for more than 5 minute (rt61 chipset). has anyone been experiencing the same problems ???
[00:19] <FaiDillinGer> i know this problem came after a driver or something was upgraded
[00:19] <BluesKaj> ddelony, to uninstall it properly, it depends how you installed it ,
[00:19] <genii> FaiDillinGer: Actually I've been having the same problem but with a realtek 8187, no solution I've found yet. Using a pc card Atheros for the moment
[00:20] <aharoon> does kubuntu 8.04 has proplems or i can use witout any fear
[00:21] <BluesKaj> FaiDillinGer, low signal output , perhaps ?
[00:21] <blizzzek-kde4> gn8
[00:21] <genii> FaiDillinGer: What I know is NOT causing it: packet size differences between adapter/router/modem,  power savings settings on the adapter, whether wep/wap/open
[00:21] <genii> wpa*
[00:22] <BluesKaj> aharoon, nothing is totally without problems but I've heard that the latest RC is pretty stable.
[00:22] <FaiDillinGer> BluesKaj: i dont think so. the router is just 2 meters away, but i got my brothers computer with the same pci card, thats under windows and not experiencing this problem
[00:22] <arcticpenguin380> are there other journalling fs
[00:22] <FaiDillinGer> genii: its a wpa network
[00:22] <BluesKaj> hmm ... ok
[00:23] <genii> FaiDillinGer: The same disconnect was happening for me no matter what authentication the access point used
[00:23] <FaiDillinGer> genii: exactly, i tried wep but i have the same problem
[00:23] <aharoon> ok i meant kubuntu 7.10 working fine to me but i think 8.04 has kde4 instead of kde3 so i wanted to use it but i afraid of face proplems of rc
[00:23] <genii> FaiDillinGer: If the adapter uses the sky or sky2 driver it may be somehow part of the problem
[00:24] <FaiDillinGer> sky ?? i have no clue what this is
[00:24] <genii> FaiDillinGer: But as I said, I have not yet tracked down exactly the issue and have resorted for now to using another adapter
[00:25] <FaiDillinGer> genii: well i am also using a cable for the moment, but it is in the middle of my room and i know i will step on it and fall at some moment lol
[00:25] <arcticpenguin380> is kde4 meant to be adopted now?
[00:26] <Dr_willis> arcticpenguin380,  i dont think so. Its more of a developers - testbed
[00:26] <arcticpenguin380> like mac os 10 was?
[00:26] <soldanr> Hello Everybody! I have been struglin for the last 3 days with booting problems. Runing XP on SATA, Kubuntu on 20GB IDE Master and one 250MB IDE slave (added after installation). On the boot with GRUB I get the famous NTLDR missing, cause it is most likely trying to use the slave IDE instead of the SATA disk to find XP. I do thave the options of hd0, hd1, hd2 on grub but tried them all.
[00:28] <soldanr> Does having Cable Select on the IDE causes that?
[00:28] <arcticpenguin380> !ntfs
[00:28] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[00:28] <genii> soldanr: Swap the position on the cables for the drives
[00:28] <arcticpenguin380> !hfs
[00:28] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[00:29] <arcticpenguin380> so when will kde 4 be meant for production then?
[00:29] <soldanr> ok, will try
[00:29] <genii> soldanr: Slave in middle, master on end of cable
[00:29] <soldanr> tahat is what i have
[00:30] <genii> soldanr: Then instead check to make sure both have CS on, or else set manually 1 to master 1 to slave
[00:30] <soldanr> have done that too, :)
[00:31] <DillinGer> is there a way to update the rt61 driver ?
[00:33] <soldanr> i am going to check the links guys, brb... thanks
[00:35] <genii> DillinGer: Well, you might try the method here if you feel up to it: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=21519
[00:35] <arcticpenguin380> !reiser4
[00:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reiser4 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:36] <DillinGer> thx genii i was googling for almost the same, but thats what i wanted
[00:37] <genii> DillinGer: np ... let me know if it solves your issue or not, I'm an interested observer :)
[00:37] <DillinGer> ok genii np
[00:42] <CaptObvious> okay so I'm trying to install the PS3 version from the alternate CD
[00:42] <CaptObvious> and I get a choice of 3 kernels to install
[00:42] <CaptObvious> linux-cell and a couple of others - linux-cell errors when I try to install it
[00:43] <CaptObvious> is this a known issue?
[00:44] <neo22> How do I start a new session from the command line?
[00:44] <neo22> the switch user button isn't working.
[00:44] <neo22> xserver something right?
[00:45] <neo22> ?
[00:46] <neo22> anyone?
[00:47] <Dr_willis> Ive spawned new X sessions with some sudo startx -- :1
[00:47] <Dr_willis> or similer command.
[00:50] <aharoon> what is ksniffer using for?
[00:51] <genii> !info ksniffer
[00:52] <ubotu> ksniffer (source: ksniffer): network traffic analyzer for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1 (gutsy), package size 425 kB, installed size 1412 kB
[00:53] <aharoon> i used it and it some tcp and arp packets what is this mean
[00:53] <aharoon> it showed tcp and arp
[00:54] <genii> aharoon: If you don't know what it's showing to you then most likely it's not a program that you have a need for
[00:54] <Daisuke_Ido> uh huh
[00:55] <aharoon> ok im new to linux sorry
[00:55] <Daisuke_Ido> that applies to any os anywhere
[00:56] <vsudilov> anyone know a way to make konsole -truely- transparent, as opposed to this 'transparent-to-the-desktop' bull?
[00:56] <aharoon> i thought its a program for stopping people who use programs for netcut and these stuff
[00:57] <genii> aharoon: Mostly it's used by network admins to monitor packets on their systems
[00:57] <aharoon> ok thanks
[00:57] <Dr_willis> vsudilov,  you have to use compiz for that.
[00:57] <ahmos> Hi, i've installed superkaramba from repos. but i can't open themes that i've installed..
[00:57] <vsudilov> Dr_willis: All right, I'm using it
[00:57] <ahmos> so any help plz?
[00:58] <Dr_willis> compiz can set arbitary windows transparent to different levels with some key combo/module.
[00:58] <Dr_willis> !superkaramba
[00:58] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[00:58] <vsudilov> I'll look in their gui config
[00:58] <Dr_willis> Hmm..  ahmos  ive never had good luck with karamba, or superkaramba
[00:58] <ahmos> me too like it seems
[00:59] <DillinGer> genii: i didnt manage to make ti work
[00:59] <genii> DillinGer: :( I'm out of immediate ideas then, apologies
[00:59] <DillinGer> genii: np dude, just to let you know
[01:00] <snarkster> intelikey: any luck or to boring?
[01:00]  * genii hands out another round of coffe... er beers
[01:00] <snarkster> beer please
[01:00]  * BluesKaj has a beer , but this is my last one :) ....ahem 
[01:01] <snarkster> later dudes
[01:01] <Daisuke_Ido> i'll stick to coffee
[01:01] <vsudilov> hm anyone know the compiz option to make konsole transparent?
[01:01] <genii> BluesKaj: Watching the Leafs game and drinking a Labatt 50 atm
[01:02] <Daisuke_Ido> it's not in compiz, it's in konsole's settings
[01:02] <Daisuke_Ido> that has nothing to do with compiz whatsoever
[01:03] <vsudilov> no -- that only gives it pseudo-transparency with the desktop
[01:03] <vsudilov> but not transparency with any other windows
[01:03] <vsudilov> ie, I can't read this irc chat while using the "transparent" konsole
[01:03] <Dr_willis> compiz can make anything transparent - to different levels. :)
[01:04] <Dr_willis> konsole has a 'pesudo-transparency' feature that shows the existing wallpaper.
[01:04] <vsudilov> exactly, which is useless O.o
[01:04] <starenka> hullo
[01:04] <Dr_willis> vsudilov,  or usefull...
[01:04] <seth> vsudilov, start konsole with the --real-transparency switch
[01:04] <Dr_willis> I find your true transparency useless. :) since it makes stuff hard to read.
[01:04] <starenka> hi anybody can help dig out kde4
[01:04] <seth> vsudilov, i.e. "konsole --real-transparency"
[01:04] <Dr_willis> a special switch! :) heh - there ya go.
[01:04] <vsudilov> seth: lemme try that now
[01:05] <Dr_willis> I wonder if some extra X features need tobe enabled for that.
[01:05] <vsudilov> seth: sweet, that was easy!
[01:05] <seth> ^_^
[01:05] <starenka> hey :)
[01:05] <starenka> sbdy can help?
[01:06] <Daisuke_Ido> Dr_willis: it would appear that no one actually *uses* the real transparency stuff, it's like geek street cred for screenshot artists
[01:06] <starenka> added kde4 src to source list
[01:06] <seth> starenka, KDE4 is in #kubuntu-kde4
[01:06] <Daisuke_Ido> starenka: try in #kubuntu-kde4
[01:06] <seth> hehe
[01:06] <starenka> oh sry then
[01:06] <starenka> havent seen the channel
[01:06] <seth> read /topic for great justice
[01:06] <starenka> rah
[01:07] <starenka> ohkay
[01:07] <starenka> try before cry, right?
[01:08] <mathieu_> up me
[01:10] <vsudilov> hm -- can't seem to append the option --real-transparency to konsole when it launches from a key-binding
[01:11] <biovore> vsudilov: I made a kde menu entry for it.. and tied the short cut key to it..
[01:11] <vsudilov> right, I have that too. But, it still doesn't use the --real-transparency option
[01:12] <vsudilov> biovore: it uses this option with your configuration?
[01:12] <deuryte> does anyone know the master comman line to fix a crashed kubuntu desktop ??
[01:13] <seth> deuryte, if kwin just died, Alt + F2 >> kwin
[01:13] <deuryte> what is kwin ??
[01:13] <seth> deuryte, other than that you'll have to be more specific on what you mean by crashed desktop
[01:14] <tekteen> deuryte: the k window manager
[01:14] <genii> deuryte: There is no "master command line" something that will make everything magically fine again. The first thing to finding your solution is to have more information on how/why it crashed in the first place and then proceed from there
[01:15] <vsudilov> GAGGGEGAHG why are simple GUI tweaks so difficult ???
[01:15] <deuryte> seth: i went and changed a setting in the bios to start my sata in "raid" mode, all went well, but i decided to reset it back to "ide" mode, then it would only boot to a command line mode. no kde
[01:15] <biovore> vsudilov: I made a new menu entry (basicly copied the kconsole entry already there) and append the --real-transparency option.  Then I tie that menu entry to a short cut key (Ctrl-Shift-K here)
[01:16] <biovore> vsudilov: The command for my menu entry is  konsole --real-transparency
[01:16] <neo22> Is there compositing in hardy heron?
[01:16] <biovore> KDE4 has it built in..
[01:16] <neo22> Hmmm
[01:16] <neo22> After upgrading to hardy.
[01:17] <osama>  plz want to know how to create a cd with mulitiple content as vedio and text with nice menu?
[01:17] <osama> [03:15] [Error] plz: Unknown command.
[01:17] <deuryte> seth: i even tried " su -i/etc/iniy.d/kdm"   didnt work after command "startx"..
[01:17] <neo22> kde4 is saying it's not finding xcomposite or something
[01:17] <biovore> nvida card? you have composite enable in xorg.conf
[01:17] <neo22> ati
[01:17] <neo22> oh, did my xorg.conf get reset?
[01:17] <neo22> ugh.
[01:17] <deuryte> seth: it seems it wont recognize my ati 9200se vid card..
[01:19] <vsudilov> biovore: Thanks, that trick works on my machine too. Funny that you have to make a dummy konsole shortcut...
[01:19]  * genii hands seth the Advil
[01:19] <seth> genii, ?
[01:20] <genii> seth: Headache remedy, I suspect deuryte's issue will occupy you for a while ;)
[01:20] <seth> deuryte, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" should get you back on track
[01:20] <deuryte> thanks seth:
[01:20] <seth> if you're just not getting into KDE but you're booting properly
[01:20] <deuryte> brb will try
[01:21] <seth> deuryte, when it asks you to choose a driver, try the radeon driver
[01:21] <seth> if that doesn't get you in, let me know what /var/log/Xorg.0.log has to say
[01:22] <BluesKaj> too late, my suggestion was going to be the default restricted driver in system settings/advanced
[01:23] <BluesKaj> most lower end radeons will benefit from the older default restricted driver
[01:24] <seth> BluesKaj, yeah, I just figured try the lowest denominator first and we can worry about bumping it up once he can get into kde
[01:24] <genii> seth: I suspect he is getting a busybox since he was messing with switching from raid to ide in his bios
[01:24] <genii> eg: initramfs fallthrough
[01:26] <seth> arg :P if that's true i'm not going to be of any help. was just going off what he said above, that there was an error about the ati card
[01:27] <genii> [20:15:30] <deuryte> seth: i went and changed a setting in the bios to start my sata in "raid" mode, all went well, but i decided to reset it back to "ide" mode, then it would only boot to a command line mode. no kde
[01:27] <genii> ^
[01:28] <seth> deuryte>	seth: it seems it wont recognize my ati 9200se vid card..
[01:29] <genii> seth: I think he may be confused LOL
[01:29] <MGrunde> I'm having trouble with one of my reiserfs drives, reiserfsck returns "Bad root block 0. (--rebuild-tree did not complete)"
[01:30] <genii> seth: At any rate if he has actual shell and it's just complaining about some video issue hopefully it will progress
[01:30] <seth> genii, yeah, we'll see
[01:31]  * seth plays Sola Rola while waiting on him
[01:33]  * genii sips his beer
[01:34] <genii> His reboot seems to be taking a while
[01:35] <hoax> #ubuntu
[01:36] <hoax> #kubuntu
[01:38] <CaptObvious> how do you set the resolution on boot?  like the kubuntu loading bar screen res?
[01:39] <genii> hoax: to switch to a channel use /j #channelname
[01:40] <genii> CaptObvious: Something like a kernel option vga=<something>
[01:40] <CaptObvious> I did that already and it's still 1280x1024
[01:41] <genii> CaptObvious: Then offhand no idea
[01:45] <superdude2435> sound not working, tried everything,anyone have any suggestions?
[01:46] <seth> superdude2435, what card
[01:46] <seth> (or what type of onboard)
[01:46] <superdude2435> intergrated
[01:46] <superdude2435> umm
[01:46] <superdude2435> hold a sec
[01:47] <superdude2435> how would i check?
[01:48] <biovore> lspci
[01:49] <BluesKaj> superdude2435, or : lspci | grep audio
[01:49] <superdude2435> Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[01:50] <batis610> how can i change opening file with one click to two clikcs??
[01:50] <BluesKaj> superdude2435,  asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"
[01:51] <superdude2435> ok
[01:51] <superdude2435> thanks
[01:51] <Dragnslcr> batis610- System Settings -> Keyboard and Mouse -> Mouse
[01:58] <draik> Hello all
[02:01] <genii> superdude2435: You are using an intel HDA card. Please see ubotu link shortly
[02:01] <genii> !intelhda | superdude2435
[02:01] <ubotu> superdude2435: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[02:01] <draik> How do I put an AVI video compilation onto a DVD?
[02:02] <draik> As video, not data.
[02:02]  * genii is starting to hate the 82801DB/DBL/DBM audio chipsets
[02:06] <belorix> Hey, i have Kubuntu 7.10 and was wondering how to install restricted drvers for nvidia
[02:06] <belorix> I also experiance random Freeze ups
[02:07] <draik> belorix: Is should be ready for you in System Settings > Advanced (tab) > Restricted Drivers.
[02:08] <paule118> ß????????ß
[02:09] <belorix> With Kubuntu how do i enable all repos
[02:09] <paule118> schit
[02:10] <draik> belorix: Adept Manager > Adept > Manage Repositories
[02:11] <belorix> Now what could be causing me random freezeups
[02:11] <draik> belorix: type /sysinfo
[02:12] <draik> Sysinfo for 'Lair': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz at 3216 MHz (6432 bogomips), HD: 460/766GB, RAM: 2270/3035MB, 137 proc's, 32.53min up
[02:12] <Daisuke_Laptop> stupid k9copy segfaulting :\
[02:12] <draik> What are your specs? Something must be slow.
[02:12] <draik> Daisuke_Laptop: My whole laptop is doing that
[02:12] <Manad> hello...anyone here have an idea why my torrents on Kubuntu are so slow when they were much faster on Windows? Even the same torrent running from 2 different machines (using the same internet connection) is much slower on Linux. I can't seem to go above 20kb/s download.
[02:12] <draik> Daisuke_Laptop: I can't run my games and such. I don't want to do it all over again.
[02:13] <Manad> I'm using deluge
[02:13] <paule118> Die Fehlermeldung lautet: 13.
[02:13] <draik> !ru | paule118
[02:13] <ubotu> paule118: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[02:13] <Manad> and it's not port-forwarding, I did that and it passes Deluge's port-forwarding test
[02:14] <maduser> in ktorrent I had to change some settings before it was fast
[02:14] <maduser> torrents as well can be very slow
[02:14] <Manad> which?
[02:14] <maduser> stuff with the upload and download rates
[02:14] <maduser> set my upload to 10kbs
[02:15] <paule118>  Fehlermeldung : 13.
[02:15] <draik> KTorrent is set to no limits on up/down speeds
[02:15] <maduser> yeah
[02:15] <maduser> but if you upload at a high speed it will slow down your download
[02:15] <paule118>  Fehlermeldung : 13.
[02:15] <Manad> no, it's not that. I reduced the upload speed to 50% of my connection. I also set it to 10% while troubleshooting.
[02:16] <Manad> I'm not new to torrents, I'm new to linux
[02:16] <maduser> ad
[02:16] <maduser> I rember reading this stuff for configuration for utorrent for fast speeds
[02:17] <belorix> now draik, What do i look for in sys info
[02:17] <draik> Can someone tell me how to get an AVI into DVD format?
[02:17] <draik> belorix: type           /sysinfo            in the channel. We will all see your computer specs.
[02:18] <biovore> http://www.linux.com/feature/53702 <-- how to convert a avi into a DVD
[02:18] <belorix> Sysinfo for 'belorix-desktop': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: AMDAthlon643500+ at 1000 MHz (2005 bogomips), , RAM: 431/439MB, 118 proc's, 16.22min up
[02:19] <draik> biovore: Thank you :)
[02:19] <draik> belorix: How many megs is the VRAM?
[02:19] <belorix> swap|?
[02:20] <belorix> 512mb
[02:20] <draik> belorix: Video RAM. How many megs of RAM does the nVidia card have?
[02:20] <belorix> idk
[02:21] <tinin> !ppc
[02:21] <ubotu> PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[02:21] <batis610> in kde4, how can i change the fact that i havn't icons of all oppened windows in all desktops in the current desktop panel?
[02:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> batis610: ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[02:27] <belorix> Hi, how can i get desktop-effects or compiz
[02:28] <barbara_> can I add locations to the system menu that is on the panel?
[02:28] <barbara_> I want to add my documents
[02:29] <crackhead_25> --how do i set the QTDIR variable ???
[02:30] <CaptObvious> kubuntu for some reason isn't starting up kde on boot, how do I tell it to?
[02:35] <tinin> Hi, I need to get some .deb packages to install kubuntu in a machine without internet, How could I do it?
[02:35] <dsmith_> biovore: What happened to MD LUG?
[02:36] <biovore> which LUG?
[02:36] <CaptObvious> tinin: USB key
[02:36] <dsmith_> Ubuntu MD
[02:36] <dsmith_> Sysinfo for 'dsmith-laptop': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz at 3000 MHz (6000 bogomips), HD: 34/167GB, RAM: 1963/2026MB, 179 proc's, 3.6h up
[02:36] <biovore> not sure..
[02:36] <biovore> I hear stuff on the email reflector but I never see anyone in the IRC channel
[02:36] <dsmith_> i saw the message from Craig..
[02:36] <belorix> how can i get the clock to come outof military time
[02:36] <tinin> I mean how could I download packages with dependencies to a usb key? CaptObvious
[02:37] <tinin> I'm trying to use a Virtualbox to see wich packages I need
[02:38] <Dr_willis> belorix,  right click on the clock - 'time and date settings' set it to use am/pm mode.
[02:38] <tinin> with a default kubuntu
[02:38] <Dr_willis> and YES.. i think it should default to am/pm also. :)
[02:38] <CaptObvious> if you don't know how to put files onto a USB key, you have no business running linux
[02:38] <dsmith_> belorix: date & time format
[02:38] <tinin> ok
[02:38] <maduser> why not military time?
[02:38] <Dr_willis> You need to restart the clock.
[02:38] <Dr_willis> maduser,  because 90% of the clocks in my house are NOT set to military time.. so why should this one.
[02:39] <dsmith_> maduser: some ppl canot add 12 to anything
[02:39] <dsmith_> lol
[02:39] <Dr_willis> and given the target audiance of ubuntu/kubuntu -  - Keep things simple.
[02:39] <maduser> true
[02:39] <biovore> stop using those 4 letter words.. MATH.. evil
[02:39] <dsmith_> well with flying I have to know UTC
[02:39] <maduser> linux, however is not for retards
[02:39] <CaptObvious> right, Dr_willis
[02:39] <CaptObvious> the real issue
[02:39] <tinin> woah  Apt On CD is what I was searching...
[02:39] <genii> Dr_willis: You have me intrigued as to the other 10% of your clocks now
[02:39] <CaptObvious> I have kubuntu on my PS3
[02:39] <CaptObvious> default install
[02:39] <maduser> nice
[02:39] <CaptObvious> it just doesn't seem to be launching kdm on boot
[02:40] <dsmith_> genii: heheh
[02:40] <CaptObvious> I can launch it fine with startx
[02:40] <CaptObvious> but I have to log in via the console first
[02:40] <Dr_willis> genii,  i'm into shortwave/ham radio. :) some of them are set to UTC. :0
[02:40] <Dr_willis> genii,  then ya got the clock thats made of ball-bearings going around on a ramp. :)
[02:40] <genii> Dr_willis: Aaaaaah Ok :)
[02:40] <biovore> same here.. I use qsstv for slowscan TV :-P
[02:40] <tinin> Can you have 3d graphics in ps3 CaptObvious?
[02:40] <CaptObvious> tinin: no
[02:41] <tinin> But is it possible?
[02:41] <CaptObvious> no
[02:42] <CaptObvious> Dr_willis: /etc/X11/default-display-manager is set to /usr/bin/kdm
[02:42] <xevious> i just installed artsbuilder in 7.10 and it crashes whenever i try to execute
[02:42] <CaptObvious> it doesn't error or anything, it just doesn't seem to try to launch it
[02:42] <tinin> http://kotaku.com/346073/ps3-megabox-homebrew-project-is-linux-for-commitment+phobes CaptObvious
[02:42] <CaptObvious> there's a kdm in /etc/init.d
[02:43] <tinin> 3D Linux gaming
[02:43] <tinin> Emulation of games of almost all the platforms
[02:44] <tinin> Possibility of launching PS3 games directly from MegaBOX
[02:44] <CaptObvious> tinin: I don't care
[02:45] <tinin> sorry, I'm want to buy a ps3, I'd like to know how well kubuntu would run on it
[02:46] <CaptObvious> very well if I could just get this working
[02:46] <genii> CaptObvious: If you do sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart               does it give any useful information?
[02:46] <genii> Or does it start kdm?
[02:46] <CaptObvious> sed: -e expression #1, char 32: unterminated 's' command
[02:47] <biovore> sed -e s/thing/replace/
[02:47] <biovore> needs a / on the end probably
[02:47] <CaptObvious> huh?
[02:47] <MGrunde> Does dd_rhelp/dd_rescue copy the entire partition, freespace and all, or does it only copy files?
[02:47] <genii> maybe script error in the kdm startup
[02:47] <CaptObvious> should I just remove then reinstall kdm?
[02:48] <CaptObvious> or is it just the init.d script that's broken?
[02:49] <genii> CaptObvious: If biovore is right may be some break in the init.d script. But perhaps try the: sudo apt-get remove --purge kdm;sudo apt-get install kdm              then try again starting it
[02:50] <CaptObvious> dammit - where is repository info kept?
[02:50] <CaptObvious> it wants the CD and I want to remove that from sources
[02:50] <genii> Usually in /etc/apt/sourcs.list
[02:51] <genii> but the ps3 kubuntu may vary from the usual
[02:51] <CaptObvious> ta
[02:51] <genii> typo from me. /etc/apt/sources.list                <- was missing an "e" in sources
[02:52] <CaptObvious> package kdm is not available but is referenced by another source
[02:52] <tinin> Can I run ubuntu ppc in a virtual machine in my 86 pc?
[02:53] <CaptObvious> heh, there's no network interfaces defined
[02:53] <CaptObvious> yet there were before
[02:53] <CaptObvious> lspci returns nothing
[02:53] <CaptObvious> like, absolutely nothing
[02:56] <biovore> CaptObvious: PCI sounds broken..
[02:57] <genii> Weird
[02:57] <genii> I don't know anything much about the ps3 kubuntu
[02:57] <biovore> tinin: maybe.. have to use qemu to emulate a PPC platform.. Not sure if it would work though..
[02:58] <Dr_willis> Other then the fact tht i see a LOT of people asking questions about it - due to their problems. :P)
[02:58] <CaptObvious> okay, networking is up :P
[02:59] <tinin> biovore thanx, I was trying with virtualbox, as it seems easier. I just need to download some text to speech ppc packages to use with a live cd, but I need to take care of all dependencies
[03:04] <CaptObvious> okay I got kdm reinstall
[03:04] <CaptObvious> ed
[03:04] <CaptObvious> same error
[03:04] <CaptObvious> is there any way to regenerate the script in /etc/init.d?
[03:04] <CaptObvious> or could I just copy it from another machine?
[03:07] <CaptObvious> okay, new error now
[03:07] <CaptObvious> on /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[03:07] <CaptObvious> cannot create /var/run/kdm/Xaccess
[03:09] <barbara_> can I add locations to the system menu that is on the panel?
[03:10] <barbara_> CaptObvious: use sudo
[03:11] <CaptObvious> then I get the sed error
[03:11] <CaptObvious> sed: -e expression #1, char 32: unterminated 's' command
[03:11] <CaptObvious> that's after copying the init script from another machine
[03:12] <Manad> if I have a Samba share, would Windows clients be able to read shares that are on non-NTFS drives?
[03:12] <CaptObvious> samba is a protocol in itself
[03:12] <Manad> so it's just like FTP or HTTP then? I don't have to worry about the filesystem?
[03:13] <hydrogen> roight
[03:13] <CaptObvious> screw it
[03:13] <CaptObvious> I just added startx into my .profile
[03:14] <Manad> ok then, question 2...how can I format an NTFS drive and be able to use it in linux? What tool does this in KDE suite?
[03:14] <Manad> err
[03:14] <Manad> I meant, repartition it as ext3
[03:14] <Manad> I know I can mount NTFS drives
[03:14] <CaptObvious> Manad: ext2fs -j /dev/sda1
[03:15] <CaptObvious> obviously replace /dev/sda1 with the drive you want to wipe
[03:15] <Manad> gotcha
[03:15] <CaptObvious> the -j means ext3 instead of ext2
[03:16] <Manad> ext3 is what all the cool people use, right?
[03:16] <CaptObvious> it's the norm
[03:19] <hydrogen> ext3 is ext2 + journal
[03:20] <Eko_Hermiyanto> hi.. I have Ubuntu and install KDE in my Ubuntu, how I can upgrade my KDE into the latest one?
[03:20] <Eko_Hermiyanto> i have type apt-get upgrade
[03:20] <Eko_Hermiyanto> but result nothing
[03:20] <NightBird> Eko_Hermiyanto: do you mean install kde 4?
[03:21] <NightBird> !kde4
[03:21] <Manad> CaptObvious: "ext2fs" command not found
[03:21] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[03:21] <CaptObvious> that's what it is in gentoo, not sure in kubuntu
[03:21] <Manad> you sure that exists in Kubuntu by default? I have 7.10
[03:21] <Manad> ah
[03:21] <Manad> ok
[03:21] <hydrogen> no it isn't..
[03:21] <NightBird> kubuntu 7.10 defaults to kde3.5
[03:21] <NickPresta> Eko_Hermiyanto, do you want to use KDE 4.0.1? Personally, I would still have 3.5.8 around.
[03:21] <hydrogen> use mkfs.ext3
[03:22] <NightBird> you can set it up to be able to run kde4 as well
[03:22] <hydrogen> or mke2fs
[03:22] <daoudi5> hello
[03:22] <NightBird> which should be that first link
[03:22] <hydrogen> ext2fs has never been a command on any distro
[03:22] <Manad> think you need 8.04 for kde4. But I'd recommend waiting, that's what all the sites say (even KDE themselves), it's very early in terms of features.
[03:22] <Eko_Hermiyanto> NightBird: yes
[03:22] <Eko_Hermiyanto> NickPresta: I love to get it
[03:22] <Manad> hydro: mke2fs /dev/sda5           ??
[03:22] <NickPresta> Manad, you can get KDE 4.0.1 in Gutsy (and it will be available by default in 8.04)
[03:22]  * NightBird uses kde4 without problems
[03:22] <Manad> I meant mkfs.ext3
[03:22] <hydrogen> mke2fs -j /dev/sda5 or mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda5
[03:22] <NickPresta> Eko_Hermiyanto, check out the !kde4 factoid.
[03:23] <NickPresta> !tell Eko_Hermiyanto about kde4
[03:23] <CaptObvious> I have a weird problem with my machine with a radeon 9000
[03:23] <CaptObvious> it's way too bright, like the gamma is too high
[03:23] <CaptObvious> the livecd is the same
[03:23] <NightBird> !kde4 Eko_Hermiyanto
[03:23] <NightBird> well bah
[03:23] <NightBird> oh well
[03:24] <NightBird> it's earlier in the chat though
[03:24] <NickPresta> NightBird, I asked ubotu to PM him the KDE4 factoid :)
[03:24] <NightBird> ah
[03:25] <NightBird> the only thing I really miss in kde4 is for something to display the current cpu and ram usage...
[03:25] <NightBird> I'm sure there's something  somewhere for it, but I haven't found it yet...
[03:25] <hydrogen> ksysguard has been ported
[03:25] <hydrogen> or
[03:25] <NickPresta> NightBird, I would just use a SuperKaramba widget. I believe it has (or is getting) a KDE4 update
[03:25] <hydrogen> alt-f2-> show system activity
[03:26] <hydrogen> eh
[03:26] <NightBird> hydrogen: I mean something to appear in the task bar :P
[03:26] <hydrogen> why would you use superkaramba?
[03:26] <Manad> hydrogen, the mkfs.ext3 command finished, but the drive does not show up in "Disks & Filesystems" as ext3 yet, it's empty. Do I need to reboot the OS?
[03:26] <Eko_Hermiyanto> NightBird: oh thanks, i get a way to install the new kde into my ubuntu. thanks dude
[03:26] <CaptObvious> real men use top
[03:26] <hydrogen> theres a system monitor plasmoid
[03:26] <Goop2> is there a good synth with a GUI that works with ALSA?
[03:26] <hydrogen> but its still in early development
[03:26] <hydrogen> hanging out in playground
[03:27] <NightBird> CaptObvious: yeah, but I already have like 4 konsoles open already >_>
[03:27] <CaptObvious> P
[03:27] <CaptObvious> :P*
[03:28] <Manad> nevermind
[03:29] <Manad> if I have 2 ext3 partitions, one full, one empty, can I merge them without losing the data on the one that's full?
[03:29] <genii> Yes
[03:29] <Bandit> how can i tell which sound device my mic is in kubuntu ?
[03:29] <CaptObvious> you want to do JBOD?
[03:30] <CaptObvious> actually, can linux treat 2 ext3 partitions on seperate disks as 1 large partition?
[03:30] <CaptObvious> or 3 on 3 seperate disks?
[03:30] <CaptObvious> separate*
[03:31] <hydrogen> with LVM
[03:31] <hydrogen> yes
[03:31] <hydrogen> not by default
[03:32] <CaptObvious> that'd be useful for my fileserver
[03:32] <CaptObvious> mind you
[03:32] <CaptObvious> you can mount a volume in any directory, right?
[03:32] <CaptObvious> so I could have a whole separate disk mounted in ~/downloads
[03:33] <hydrogen> yes
[03:33] <CaptObvious> like windows can with NTFS
[03:34] <NightBird> you can make any file systems mount point be anywhere in linux...  like I have a 60 ext3 partition set up as my /home directory, while my / directory has 40 gigs to use elsewhere
[03:35] <hydrogen>  mm
[03:35] <hydrogen> I have a -8.0 zetabyte drive for my /home
[03:36] <Manad> hydrogen, i have my new ext3 parttion ready, but Disks & Filesystems shows it as disabled. How do I enable it without restarting the computer? I set a mount point, so it's just a matter ofenabling.
[03:37] <Manad> the GUI has no such option
[03:37] <Manad> except "enable at startup"
[03:37] <NightBird> Manad: try mount <directory it will mount too>
[03:37] <NightBird> from a console
[03:38] <CaptObvious> mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/whatever
[03:38] <hydrogen> you will need to be root
[03:38] <hydrogen> or use sudo
[03:38] <NightBird> yeah... so if you're mounting the partition to the path /lol the command would be "sudo mount /lol"
[03:38] <Manad> allright, that worked! Thanks! :P
[03:38] <NightBird> np
[03:39] <Manad> I knew abount Mount but thought "enabled" would be a hardware thing unrelated to mount
[03:39] <CaptObvious> you could put it in your fstab for the future
[03:40] <NightBird> CaptObvious: I think that's pretty much what he did do with a gui
[03:40] <Manad> yeah
[03:40] <NightBird> though, if it provided a way to create it, I find it odd that it wouldn't also provide a mechanism to mount it now
[03:41] <Manad> yeah, it's not very intuitive
[03:42] <Manad> but I guess the newbie user (ie me if you guys weren't helping me) would know that he can restart the pc to mount it
[03:44] <toyo|desk> hey all
[03:44] <CaptObvious> woah
[03:44] <CaptObvious> I just rebooted
[03:44] <NightBird> eh... that's one of those habits that you have to try to break new people of that habit
[03:44] <CaptObvious> and kdm launched
[03:44] <CaptObvious> oh dammit, wrong machine
[03:44] <CaptObvious> this was the one that worked anyway :P
[03:44] <NightBird> you should rarely have to restart linux
[03:44] <CaptObvious> I rebooted to plug HDDs back in :P
[03:45] <toyo|desk> so I dont know who all was here last night when I was talking about my USB 2.0 issue that I have
[03:45] <NightBird> at least compared to windows... the only time I find that you have to reboot in linux is for a new kernel install
[03:45] <toyo|desk> but the tip I tried to correct it just helped it for a while
[03:46] <toyo|desk> it still kills the hard drive after a while
[03:46] <CaptObvious> tf
[03:46] <CaptObvious> wtf*
[03:46] <CaptObvious> hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[03:46] <CaptObvious> I take it that means I need root :P
[03:46] <toyo|desk> to mount the drive?
[03:46] <CaptObvious> to browse it
[03:47] <Manad> is it possible a USB hard drive will fail to mount on Linux? I detect it just fine, but it syas "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000"
[03:47] <toyo|desk> right click it hit properties
[03:47] <toyo|desk> click mounting
[03:47] <toyo|desk> uncheck mount as user
[03:47] <toyo|desk> that worked for me
[03:47] <toyo|desk> on my ntfs part
[03:47] <toyo|desk> of my external
[03:47] <Manad> that worked
[03:48] <toyo|desk> :)
[03:49] <Manad> why doesn't it do that by default? how is the average guy supposed to know?
[03:50] <toyo|desk> I had to look around on the internet for a long time for that tip
[03:51] <toyo|desk> I think it only has to do with ntfs partitions
[03:51] <toyo|desk> er sorry ntfs partitions on external drives
[03:53] <toyo|desk> anyway dose anyone know where the ubuntu/kubuntu devs chill?
[03:53] <crimsun> "away from IRC".
[03:53] <Manad> nonsense
[03:54] <toyo|desk> kernel devs specifically
[03:54] <DreadKnight> toyo|desk: #ubuntu-dev
[03:54] <crimsun> again, away from IRC.  They do chat in #ubuntu-kernel during USA business hours.
[03:54] <genii> toyo|desk: Likely the employee lounge at Canonical
[03:54] <toyo|desk> aye
[03:54] <toyo|desk> lol
[03:55] <Manad> sorry to keep asking questions, but I wanted to share a folder with a Windows computer and was under the impression Kubuntu came with Samba. If I go to System Settings > Sharing it warns me that "SMB server is not installed on this machine"
[03:55] <bigdad1e> hi everyone. i am having a problem with uncompressing hldsupdatetool.bin can someone help me?
[03:55] <DreadKnight> Manad: sudo apt-get install samba    i guess :P
[03:55] <DreadKnight> !samba
[03:55] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[03:56] <Manad> thanks for the link
[03:56] <bigdad1e> ive been at it for 3 hours now reading up on everything and nothing seems to be helping me at all.
[03:57] <bigdad1e> !uncompress
[03:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uncompress - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:57] <bigdad1e> !ncompress
[03:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ncompress - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:57] <genii> bigdad1e:  ./hldsupdatetool.bin
[03:57] <bigdad1e> tried it doesnt work
[03:58] <genii> bigdad1e: What message does it give when you try that?
[03:58] <bigdad1e> bigdad1e@bigdad1e-desktop:~/gameserver/srcds$ ./hldsupdatetool.bin
[03:58] <bigdad1e> bash: ./hldsupdatetool.bin: No such file or directory
[03:58] <bigdad1e> its in there
[03:58] <CaptObvious> !webmin
[03:58] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead.
[03:58] <CaptObvious> :P
[03:58] <Daisuke_Ido> is the capitalization right?
[03:58] <CaptObvious> !ebox
[03:59] <ubotu> ebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See the plans for Hardy at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EboxSpec
[03:59] <bigdad1e> yea
[03:59] <bigdad1e> its all lowercase
[03:59] <genii> bigdad1e: Is that the actual dir it is in?
[04:00] <genii> bigdad1e: The next thing which comes to mind is that is IS executing, but the program is looking for some file or directory which does not exist in the places it looks.
[04:00] <bigdad1e> home/bigdad1e/gameserver/srcds
[04:00] <mortici> is there anyway to set a permanent DNS server setting, so that i don't have to enter it every time i boot up the pc?
[04:01] <CaptObvious> bigdad1e: sudo chmod +x hldsupdatetool.bin
[04:01] <bigdad1e> tried that too
[04:01] <CaptObvious> mortici: sudo nano /etc/hosts
[04:01] <CaptObvious> oh wait
[04:01] <genii> bigdad1e: I mean that the progam called hldsupdatetool.bin is running. But then part of what it does when beginning to operate is look for something which does not exist
[04:01] <mortici> CaptObvious: thats for the host file
[04:01] <CaptObvious> DNS server setting rather than DNS entry?
[04:01] <bigdad1e> nothing comes up when i put that command in
[04:01] <CaptObvious> do you not get DNS server by DHCP?
[04:01] <CaptObvious> but anyway
[04:01] <CaptObvious> sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf
[04:02] <mortici> thanks :)
[04:02] <mortici> i do
[04:02] <mortici> but i want different DNS servers :)
[04:02] <CaptObvious> :)
[04:02] <mortici> ok
[04:02] <bigdad1e> im lost right now and its starting to get the best of me lol
[04:02] <mortici> well it says the changes will be over written
[04:02] <mortici> :/
[04:03] <mortici> doesn't help me much there
[04:03] <mortici> is there a permanent location else where?
[04:03] <CaptObvious> yeah, wherever network interfaces are defined in kubuntu
[04:03] <mortici> weird
[04:03]  * CaptObvious thrashes 3 hard drives at once
[04:03] <Pici> mortici: add this to /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf: prepend domain-name-servers xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx;
[04:03] <mortici> when i set it there they disappear
[04:03] <bigdad1e> genii: can you pm me
[04:04] <mortici> Pici:  you are god :)
[04:04] <Pici> mortici: mine is like this for OpenDNS: prepend domain-name-servers 208.67.222.222, 208.67.220.220;
[04:04] <CaptObvious> "Fetched 11.6MB in 6s (1687kb/s)" <3
[04:05] <mortici> Pici: did you comment out domain-name-servers in the request field?
[04:05] <Pici> mortici: No, I didnt.
[04:05] <mortici> k
[04:05] <mortici> this works with dhcp awsome
[04:06] <mortici> even better
[04:06] <Pici> yep yep :)
[04:06] <mortici> is there a way for a manual setup to do the same thing, IF i wanted to eliminate DHCP and set static routes?
[04:06] <genii> bigdad1e: I'm not here much longer. try: sudo apt-get install lib32gcc1                    then after try to run the file again by: ./filename
[04:07] <genii> eg: ./hldsupdatetool.bin
[04:07] <hydrogen> is there a version of acrobat reader for linux?
[04:07] <bigdad1e> yay
[04:08] <bigdad1e> that worked
[04:08] <joh6nn> any search i run in apt-cache has lots of blank lines mixed in with the output, and once the search is done, bash acts like i held down the enter key; anyone know what might cause that?
[04:08] <bigdad1e> thanks alot
[04:08] <bigdad1e> you saved my computer from a firey grave lol.
[04:09] <bigdad1e> you have a wonderful day or night depending on where ever you are located. but thank you soo much.
[04:09] <bigdad1e> life saver
[04:09] <genii> bigdad1e: np. Have a good night
[04:09] <genii> See everyone later <passes coffees out to all>
[04:09] <bigdad1e> good night everyone and thank you for all your help.
[04:10] <mortici> there has to be a location to set the settings perminately for the manual configed address....
[04:10] <hydrogen> or let me rephrase that.. how do I get acrobat reader in kubuntu?
[04:11] <Dragnslcr> hydrogen- kpdf should be installed by default
[04:11] <joh6nn> hydrogen: do you want acrobat specifically, or just something to read pdfs?
[04:11] <hydrogen> I need acrobat
[04:11] <hydrogen> not a pdf reader
[04:11] <hydrogen> acrobat reader*
[04:11] <hydrogen> not any pdf reader*
[04:11] <hydrogen> to clarify
[04:11] <Dragnslcr> Is there some specific pdf file that isn't being displayed correctly in kpdf?
[04:12] <hydrogen> It is an interactive pdf
[04:12] <hydrogen> and kpdf can't handle
[04:12] <Dragnslcr> Ah
[04:12] <hydrogen> and okular is misbehaving for me :/
[04:12] <Dragnslcr> Adobe's site might have a Linux version available
[04:12] <Dragnslcr> If not, you could try using wine
[04:12] <joh6nn> there's one in the repositories, i think
[04:13] <hydrogen> adobe has an rpm..
[04:13] <posingaspopular> sigh, okay so I was messnig with knetworkmanager, now all my setting are wrong
[04:13] <hydrogen> not seeing anything in apt
[04:13] <posingaspopular> i cant even scan for networks anymore
[04:13] <hydrogen> but I wasn't sure if it was hidden somewhere
[04:13] <posingaspopular> is there a way to revert everything I did?
[04:13] <joh6nn> hmm.  guess not
[04:13] <joh6nn> i thought there was
[04:14] <joh6nn> well, like Dragnslcr said then, check the adobe site
[04:15] <joh6nn> anybody have any guess what would make apt-cache start spitting out blank lines in any search?
[04:17] <ubuntu> someone please help me, this live CD messed up up my MBR and i cant get back into windows, my windows CD wont even boot
[04:17] <thesiege> any ideas guys?
[04:18] <thesiege> im on a live cd and i tried downloading ms-sys but i cant compile it
[04:18] <joh6nn> Ubuntu: thesiege what do you mean, the cd won't boot?
[04:19] <draik> How do I clear my CLI history?
[04:19] <Dragnslcr> draik- you can clear out ~/.bash_history
[04:19] <joh6nn> draik: you mean erase the history so no one can see what you did, or just clear the screen?
[04:19] <thesiege> my xp cd wont boot
[04:19] <draik> Clear out everything I've typed
[04:20] <joh6nn> thesiege: you said that.  i'm looking for error messages, or at the least a little more detail
[04:20] <draik> thesiege: I think you're in the wrong channel
[04:20] <hydrogen> type `clear`
[04:20] <hydrogen> or `reset`
[04:20] <draik> Clear only clears the screen. Reset didn't do it.
[04:20] <thesiege> error 21
[04:20] <thesiege> from grub
[04:21] <thesiege> when i tried installing ubuntu from the live cd to a removeable HDD i got this error after reboot
[04:21] <thesiege> now only the live cd works
[04:21] <reaperdragon> hey ktorrent wont start up any advice
[04:21] <mortici> start it in konsole
[04:21] <mortici> and see what the error is
[04:22] <reaperdragon> it says already started
[04:22] <draik> I read that wrong. I swore reaperdragon said "kTorrent won't start up any devices"
[04:22] <joh6nn> thesiege: open up /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:22] <reaperdragon> but it's not in my start bar
[04:22] <reaperdragon> like it use to be
[04:23]  * draik thinks it's time for lasik eye surgery
[04:23] <thesiege> ok, id do that how?
[04:23] <joh6nn> thesiege: pick any text editor, and just browse to that file
[04:23] <thesiege> ok
[04:23] <joh6nn> once you've got it open, scroll down to the bottom
[04:23] <reaperdragon> ktorrent is showing in my bar
[04:24] <reaperdragon> is not
[04:24] <thesiege> ok im there
[04:26] <joh6nn> thesiege: the entries down at the bottom, that make up the menu, they should all have lines that say something like "root            (hd#,#)"
[04:26] <draik> QDVDAuthor is taking too long. Is there an alternative to putting an AVI as Video DVD that will not take 3+ hours
[04:26] <thesiege> yeah i see them
[04:26] <joh6nn> does it say "root          (hd0,0)" ?
[04:27] <thesiege> root		(hd1,0)
[04:27] <thesiege> the last one does
[04:27] <thesiege> the windows one
[04:27] <thesiege> but the first one has root(hd1,0)
[04:28] <joh6nn> do you have windows and linux on separate hard drives?
[04:28] <joh6nn> or are they on the same drive?
[04:28] <thesiege> well i was trying to put linux on the removable hdd
[04:28] <thesiege> and currently i am on a live CD and windows is on  the internal hdd
[04:29] <joh6nn> so they're on different drives?
[04:29] <thesiege> technically yes
[04:29] <joh6nn> ok
[04:29] <draik> Yay... 3 hours and 11 minutes... yet again for the past x minutes
[04:29] <joh6nn> have you moved the drives around since you tried to install?
[04:30] <thesiege> well, not really, like i said, i only have 1 internal drive, and then i have my external drive
[04:31] <joh6nn> just for kicks, type "mount" in a terminal, and PM the results to me
[04:33] <thesiege> it says im unregistered, i cant pm
[04:33] <thesiege> http://pastebin.com/m46f20355
[04:33] <thesiege> its right there
[04:35] <unagi> i think im ready to remove gnome and stick with kde.........but im worried it might remove something i need/want
[04:35] <joh6nn> paste in all the menu entries from grub, too.  just for the hell of it
[04:35] <joh6nn> unagi: so leave it be for now?
[04:35] <joh6nn> or do you need the space?
[04:36] <bigdad1e> can someone help me with setting up an ftp server?
[04:36] <unagi> i dont NEED it but i rarely switch to gnome anymore
[04:36] <thesiege> http://pastebin.com/m210667fc
[04:36] <unagi> i mean like im so  use to using gedit
[04:36] <unagi> though i like kate
[04:36] <unagi> is there a page that shows a translation of progs from gnome to kde?
[04:37] <biovore> just run your gnome program in kde..
[04:37] <unagi> if i remove gnome it removes all gnome based progs right?
[04:39] <bigdad1e> how hard is it to set up an ftp server?
[04:39] <bigdad1e> !ftpserver
[04:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ftpserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:39] <bigdad1e> !ftp server
[04:39] <ubotu> FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[04:39] <biovore> nope.. install proftpd or wu-ftp
[04:39] <unagi> !ftp
[04:39] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[04:39] <biovore> or one of thoes others
[04:40] <bigdad1e> and it will set it up so other people can connect to a seleted folder and upload files to it from their home or business?
[04:40] <thesiege> anything joh6nn?
[04:40] <DreadKnight> bigdad1e: you are asking for a ftp-server :P
[04:41] <biovore> FTP is sorta of a problem because its plain text..  try sftp  (winscp on windows)
[04:41] <joh6nn> thesiege: looking now
[04:41] <bigdad1e> true
[04:41] <biovore> should work if you have ssh installed
[04:41] <bigdad1e> i installed proftp and gproftp doesnt seem to like me to much?
[04:42] <Lthreethreetee> just use ssh
[04:42] <unagi> use html\
[04:42] <DreadKnight> ssh is cool xD
[04:43] <bigdad1e> ssh for ftp server?
[04:43] <joh6nn> thesiege: what drive are you trying to boot from?
[04:43] <DreadKnight> !ssh
[04:43] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[04:44] <biovore> Is ssh is installed you can sftp into the box..  (passwords not in plain site that way, more secure)
[04:44] <thesiege> i would like to boot the windows drive hda1
[04:44] <bigdad1e> will people runing windows be able to access the files?
[04:44] <biovore> if they have winscp installed.. yes
[04:44] <ses59> i installed a 32bit adobe reader and now it is messing up opening pdf files but i can not find a way to apt-get to uninstall it any suggestions on how to remove the bad program?
[04:45] <bigdad1e> i need something they wont need anything but an ftp client to connect to
[04:45] <ses59> i have a 64 bit kubuntu running
[04:45] <joh6nn> thesiege: which drive are you actively attempting to boot from?
[04:46] <joh6nn> bigdad1e: i strongly recommend forcing them to use an sftp client, rather than an ftp client.  or is that not an option?
[04:47] <thesiege> joh6nn: im not sure i understand the question
[04:47] <bigdad1e> it is but im new to linux and i dont know how to install all of these programs
[04:47] <thesiege> i told my bios to boot from the internal HDD
[04:47] <joh6nn> thesiege: and that's the drive that windows is on?
[04:47] <thesiege> yes
[04:47] <bigdad1e> joh6nn: can you show me?
[04:49] <Lthreethreetee> !apt | bigdad1e
[04:49] <ubotu> bigdad1e: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[04:49] <joh6nn> thesiege: i understand exactly what happened, but i don't know how to explain it.  basically, you've bitten off more than you can chew, and it's more than i can help you with at 10 till midnight, with work in the morning
[04:49] <joh6nn> what happens when you try to boot your windows CD?
[04:49] <bigdad1e> i know the basics of apt and aptitude sudo but configuring the ftp server is what i dont knwo what to do with
[04:50] <albertolempira> hey guys i have a dumb question... Can i have some desktop effects (like Compiz Fusion) on  KDE 4 ¿?
[04:50] <thesiege> it says inspecting systems hardware and then nothing happens
[04:50] <biovore> albertolempira: there built into kde4
[04:50] <drarem> how can I copy my current kde session to a test one, dont want to mess up current one
[04:50] <joh6nn> bigdad1e: i'm gonna go to bed in a second, but if you hop into #ubuntu i'm sure someone there will be able to help
[04:50] <biovore> just have to turn them on.. there not that fancy yet..
[04:50] <thesiege> dont worry, i can come back tomorrow, its not that important
[04:50] <mortici> albertolempira: yes, right click on the window and select window behaviour you can enable special effects from there
[04:50] <bigdad1e> ok
[04:50] <bigdad1e> thanks
[04:52] <joh6nn> all right, i'm tired
[04:52] <joh6nn> night
[04:52] <thesiege> thanks man
[04:53] <albertolempira> mortici: thanks!
[04:55] <mortici> np
[05:09] <Vermyndax> hey all
[05:09] <Vermyndax> I am having a really weird problem
[05:09] <Vermyndax> I *just* installed Kubuntu 7.10
[05:09] <Vermyndax> from the DVD
[05:09] <_2> all is not here right now.  can we help ?
[05:09] <Vermyndax> login to my desktop
[05:10] <Vermyndax> and it says there's a distribution upgrade... huh?
[05:10] <Vermyndax> I just installed the newest
[05:10] <Vermyndax> and adept refuses to update packages
[05:11] <Vermyndax> hmmm now that I've rebooted, X won't start
[05:12] <Vermyndax> any idea why it would tell me there is a distribution upgrade and start loading the dist upgrade tool?
[05:12] <_2> and that's a fresh install....   i think i will wait and let "all" handle that one...
[05:12] <Vermyndax> yeah it's a fresh install... totally bizarre
[05:12] <Vermyndax> now I'm in the command line doing an apt-get upgrade/update
[05:12] <Daisuke_Laptop> it tells you there's a distribution upgrade and loads the upgrade tool because adept is bugged.  it's now been bugged for four months.
[05:12] <Vermyndax> so let's see what happens now
[05:12] <Daisuke_Laptop> and NOTHING has been done to resolve this.
[05:12] <Vermyndax> Daisuke_Laptop: wow... so, what's the method for updating then?
[05:12] <Daisuke_Laptop> god i love kde
[05:13] <Vermyndax> wow that really, really sucks
[05:13] <Vermyndax> I am in command line updating it now
[05:13] <Vermyndax> I was going to load KDE 4.0.1 just to see it anyway
[05:15] <toyo|desk> are there any kde apps for adjusting the cpu frequency
[05:15] <Vermyndax> rebooting now let's see what happens
[05:16] <Vermyndax> problem is... evolution drives me nuts, which is why I prefer kde
[05:16] <Vermyndax> well, that seems to have fixed it
[05:17] <Vermyndax> I am in the splash now
[05:17] <drarem> if I right-click -> remove panel from kde3, how can i get it back
[05:17] <_2> kicker
[05:19] <drarem> is there just an easy way to create a new session based on kde3 and test with that
[05:20] <_2> new session ? logout  drop to a console and run#  mv ~/.kde ~/.backup_kde    # log back in.
[05:20] <_2> is that what you mean ?
[05:20] <drarem> yes, so it shows up in my session list and I can select it
[05:21] <Vermyndax> heh
[05:21] <Vermyndax> I am a sadist
[05:21] <Vermyndax> here comes kde4-core
[05:21] <drarem> ty
[05:21] <_2> oh kdm option...     errr not sure what to say there
[05:21] <drarem> oh
[05:22] <_2> what i said will reset your kde session to defaults  but wont add an option that isn't already in kdm.
[05:22] <Vermyndax> anyone else here using kde 4.0.1?
[05:23] <_2> i'm not even using X
[05:23] <drarem> ok
[05:24] <_2> drarem if it remember rightly, you can add an entry in /etc/X11/sessions/ something....   errr been to long.
[05:25] <drarem> thanks
[05:30] <_2> i think i have several dirs in /etc that apt didn't remove when i cleaned my system
[05:36] <Vermyndax> not impressed
[05:37] <_2> :[
[05:39] <_2> a hoe-ax ?   isn't that a multi-purpose gardening tool ?
[05:40] <_2> sort of like a pick-ax ?    only it's a  hoax    :)
[05:41] <wastedfluid> May sound stupid; but I can not figure it out for the life of me.  Does anyone know how to disable this OSD of messages with Kopete... when I get a message, it pops up these annoying OSD's of it.. and I've looked all in the configure dialog, and can't find it.
[06:07] <_2> thought i'd look up [pbflush] and see if i wanted it on my box or not.   found this thread http://lists.samba.org/archive/linux/2004-February/009679.html    laugh a minute
[06:18] <Carutsu> hey why can't i use the pop3:/ kioslave, it asks if i want to open it with kmail instead of just logging in
[06:21] <_2> [17187201.872000] Device 'vesafb.0' does not have a release() function, it is broken and must be fixed.
[06:21] <Eko_Hermiyanto> my KDE 4 works good in Ubuntu... oh yes baby
[06:21] <Eko_Hermiyanto> :D
[06:22] <Carutsu> anyone knows what I'm talking about... at least :P
[06:25] <_2> Carutsu about email access via konqueror it looks like.  but what happens if you just navigate the ip    not use the kio ?
[06:25] <Carutsu> what do you mean, writting foomail@fooserver ?
[06:26] <_2> yeah
[06:26] <hydrogen> err
[06:26] <hydrogen> that wouldn't work
[06:26] <Carutsu> nop it tries to send a mail _2
[06:26] <_2> ah it's mimed.  k
[06:27] <Carutsu> _2: it seems
[06:27] <Carutsu> hydrogen: any clues why it doesn't "just work"TM ? :P
[06:28] <hydrogen> Carutsu: kmail is probably set as your pop3 handler
[06:28] <hydrogen> higher than konqueror
[06:28] <Carutsu> mm, perhaps... lets see
[06:29] <Carutsu> thank you all, I'll try to solve it at a later time
[06:30] <_2> i really think that this box could do without all of these   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d208d7414
[06:32] <_2> an i wonder where my ps went....
[06:32] <Carutsu> hydrogen: mm I wasn't able to find pop3:/ in konqueror's dialog, as far as I can see it just manages files
[06:32] <Carutsu> mime tipes
[06:33] <_2> true: /bin/ps: No such file or directory
[06:34] <_2> !find /bin/ps
[06:35] <ubotu> File /bin/ps found in procps
[06:35] <_2> ok.
[06:35] <hydrogen> what did you do!
[06:35] <_2> hmm ?
[06:36] <_2> oh i just installed procps
[06:36] <hydrogen> why did you uninstall it? Oo
[06:36] <_2> caues i cleaned this system
[06:37] <_2> for Q in `dpkg -l | grep 'ii ' | cut -d' ' -f3` ;do apt-get -y --purge remove $Q ;done      <<<<  i ran that.
[06:38] <Smutt> hey what f button do i press to boot my laptop from cd drive
[06:38] <hydrogen> uhm
[06:38] <hydrogen> doesn't that uninstall everything you have?
[06:38] <NightBird> Smutt: depends on the bios...
[06:38] <_2> hydrogen no.
[06:38] <_2> skipps everything marked "essential"
[06:38] <Smutt> im trying to install kubuntu and f10 and f8 not working
[06:38] <hydrogen> ah
[06:38] <NightBird> Smutt: you may need to set it to boot by default by getting into the bios options, or you may have the ability to declare a one time boot from
[06:39] <NightBird> I've seen F1, F2, F8 and Escape all being buttons to do special things with the bios
[06:39] <Smutt> its an asus f3 series laptop...anyone else here have an asus?
[06:39] <_2> hydrogen but if one adds --force-yes   then it does what you were thinking
[06:39] <NightBird> I have an asus
[06:39] <Smutt> how to boot it from cd drive
[06:39] <NightBird> I have to use the F2, but there is no guarantee that that will be sufficient
[06:39] <Smutt> wats this force thing u guys speak of....i dont wanna do it by mistake?
[06:40] <Smutt> f2 and f3 should have same boot load button
[06:40] <NightBird> I hit F2 to open the bios, change the boot order to have the cd drive be boot from before the disk
[06:40] <Smutt> alright kool
[06:40] <Daisuke_Ido> i've also seen tab and delete as major bios keys
[06:40] <Smutt> i guess ill try that
[06:40] <Smutt> wat button shoudlnt i push because might nuke my drives
[06:40] <NightBird> yeah... there is no real standard in how to enter bios configuration...
[06:41] <_2> Smutt you wont force the package manager by mistake.   if you do it, it will be intentional.     it always is.
[06:41] <Smutt> damn...they need a damn standard
[06:41] <Smutt> lol ok
[06:41] <Smutt> cya all ill be back on kubuntu hopefully
[06:41] <Daisuke_Ido> wow...  looks like they got flash fixed.
[06:42] <mirador> bonjour
[06:42] <_2> daisuke yeah del is very common
[06:42] <Daisuke_Ido> !fr | mirador
[06:42] <ubotu> mirador: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:42] <mirador> je suis nouveau sous kubuntu
[06:42] <mirador> merci
[06:43] <Daisuke_Ido> Version 9.0.48.0.2+really0ubuntu12.1 < clever.
[06:43]  * NightBird goes to bed
[06:49] <_2> well they may have fixed flash but they have not fixed "tzconfig"
[06:49] <_2> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d2f00d8c8
[06:50] <_2> not on the LTS anyway
[06:51] <_2> when i power down, i'll check the hardware clock from bios and make sure it is set to utc
[06:51] <_2> i'm pretty sure it is though
[06:57] <Daisuke_Ido> _2: tzconfig is fine on the newer releases - don't know why they wouldn't backport it
[06:59] <_2> me either
[07:03] <_2> shalom
[07:12] <djdarkman> hello, there was a kde4 update this morning, did it contain the kicker custumization?
[07:13] <djdarkman> ohhh soorry, never mind
[07:13] <djdarkman> didn`t see the topic
[07:13] <kunal_> there is no kicker in KDE4
[07:14] <djdarkman> ok, I dont know how it`s called
[07:14] <djdarkman> I was referring to the panel...
[07:15] <Eko_Hermiyanto> yes
[07:15] <Eko_Hermiyanto> there is somewhat like kicker in the panel
[07:15] <Eko_Hermiyanto> kickoff is the name
[07:16] <djdarkman> kickoff is the name of the new fancy kmenu....
[07:17] <Eko_Hermiyanto> the new kde is amazing
[07:17] <ethan961> the panel was disappearing on me, and I couldn't find the executable name to launch it again
[07:19] <Rcommander> Hi guys I need some help configuring Kubuntu on my Asus g1s
[07:20] <Rcommander> On my Asus g1s in Gnome ubuntu all my FN keys works fine, however in Kubuntu they don't seem to work right??
[07:23] <Patrick13251> I'm trying to install some nvidia drivers on Kubuntu 7.10 and having issues shutting down x properly.  Does anyone have a moment to help?
[07:23] <Rcommander> patrick what kind of computer do you have?
[07:24] <Patrick13251> Homemade Intel Dual core, installed the 64 bit kernel
[07:24] <Rcommander> whats the mobo?
[07:24] <Rcommander> i mean brand
[07:24] <Patrick13251> I think asus with an nvidia chipset
[07:25] <Rcommander> ok do you have 4GB ram?
[07:25] <Patrick13251> Yes
[07:25] <Rcommander> ok
[07:26] <Rcommander> you need to update the bios, what is happening is that older Asus bios' cannot map the north bridge correctly, download the bios for your mobo that says "support for Penryn CPU' or "memory issue fixed"
[07:26] <Rcommander> you should be fine
[07:26] <Patrick13251> Ok, is there a place I can get more info about this?  And thanks for the help by the way.
[07:27] <Rcommander> um no i had to do this for mine...if you google they have a kernel patch or something...but i ain't savvy enough to install it
[07:27] <Rcommander> myself
[07:27] <apparle> Can I update my repositories without net
[07:30] <Smutt> hi all im new to kubuntu...where do i go on kubuntu to connect to a wireless network...im on laptop
[07:39] <sayucyof> hello
[07:41] <apparle> I donot have net at home but I want to upgrade my repositories. can I do that
[07:46] <Patrick13251> Apparle, I sent you some messages directly.  Did you get those?
[07:48] <Patrick13251> Apparle, I haven't tried it but have you looked here? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=310020
[07:50] <apparle> Patrick13251: I did not geet any of your messages
[07:51] <ogy> tst
[07:59] <apparle> Patrick13251: could you come offtopic. Please
[08:03] <Patrick13251> apparle, Im an irc noob.  I must be doing something wrong then.
[08:04] <Patrick13251> on my client I just click on your name and a new window pops up.  Typing in there doesn't go to you apparently
[08:06] <apparle> some one please help us IRC as both of us are noob s about IRC. How do we talk privately?
[08:07] <apparle> Patrick13251: I can see that the link is very useful but is there a windows version
[08:08] <Patrick13251> hmm
[08:08] <Patrick13251> no but if you have a different PC you could use a live-cd of some kind and then probably put it on a USB stick
[08:09] <Patrick13251> then again, Im no expert, maybe they do have a PC version of apt
[08:09] <Patrick13251> maybe for cygwin or mingw
[08:18] <apparle> Patrick13251: I could not understand exactly what to do. Could you explain?
[08:20] <apparle> Patrick13251: Could you explain what to do with what was stated in the link
[08:27] <apparle> Patrick13251: Please explain how to use the script in more detail
[08:29] <apparle> privmsg Patrick13251
[08:29] <apparle> privmsg Patrick13251 sadf
[08:31] <Patrick13251> im getting messages in the other window now
[08:32] <ethan961> haha
[08:32] <apparle> Patrick13251: Ok reply in the new window
[08:34] <Patrick13251> Ok I replied in the other window, do you see it?
[08:35] <apparle> Patrick13251: No. Type this command in this window "/PRIVMSG apparle <msg>" .replace <msg> with your msg
[08:39] <Patrick13251> I'm typing that but nothing happens, is there a typo in it?
[08:40] <Patrick13251> Anyway its really late here and I have to hit the sack.  I had a peek at the link and it won't work for you directly
[08:41] <apparle> Patrick13251: I am also getting late for lecture bye
[08:41] <apparle> bye bye
[08:41] <Patrick13251> later
[08:42] <harmental> hey guys..i have realized i no longer have a swap!!
[08:42] <harmental> any hints?
[08:45] <harmental> my fstab claims: "/dev/hda6 none swap sw 0 0"
[08:57] <Patrick13251> is /etc/init.d/kdm stop not working correctly in Kubuntu 7.10?
[08:59] <mith_> hi all! are there any way to easily configure my multimedia keyboard?
[09:01] <noam_> is it just me or the latest flash player update breaks konqueror?
[09:16] <spartacus> Hi. Just a question re installing Kubuntu on an existing Ubuntu installation. The 4.0.1 news page says to install kde4-core, while FAQ says to install kubuntu-desktop. Should I read that to mean I need both?
[09:17] <emilsedgh> spartacus: kubuntu-desktop will install kubuntu stuff which are KDE3 based
[09:18] <emilsedgh> spartacus: if you want a complete kubuntu with stability, go with kubuntu-desktop, if you want to be on the edge of desktop technology and you dont mind losing a few features and a little bit of stability, go with kde4-core
[09:20] <spartacus> emilsedgh: OK, I don't mind bleeding edge stuff now and then. I should get a full KDE 4 desktop available in KDM after installing kde4-core?
[09:20] <emilsedgh> spartacus: i think so, read the announcement, teaches how to install kde4 stuff
[09:21] <llutz> spartacus: you won't bcus most of the apps aren't ported to kde4 now
[09:22] <spartacus> emilsedgh: I have. I didn't  think it was clear that kde-desktop only installed 3.x, so wanted to check what was needed...
[09:22] <emilsedgh> good
[09:22] <spartacus> llutz: yeah, that's fine though - I'm mostly looking for the KDE4 core desktop...
[09:22] <ctx144k> hello all, i wanna change my quit-dialog in KDE... i dont need the 2 options for sleeping-mode
[09:23] <ctx144k> is there a way to diable them?
[09:23] <ctx144k> disable
[09:32] <ForgeAus> wow
[09:32] <ForgeAus> AndLinux is Kubuntu for Windows :)
[09:32] <ForgeAus> well the KDE pack is, its based on kubuntu gutsy currently
[09:32] <ForgeAus> (400mb image)
[09:33] <ForgeAus> sudo seems to be missing
[09:33] <ForgeAus> oddly
[09:33] <themzot_> ΗΣ;ΥΦΨΡΕςΦ8
[09:34] <themzot_> ΙΔΦ3Υηφωςςςγγγηηθφιεδδθθθθθθθθςυρφη
[09:34] <ForgeAus> the Kmenu "notification" icon (ie windows system tray) has lotsa kde apps :)
[09:34] <ForgeAus> and you can edit files from anywhere in kate :)
[09:35] <ForgeAus> or browse from anywhere
[09:37] <Riddell> ForgeAus: where's this?
[09:38] <jussi01> !gr | themzot_
[09:38] <ubotu> themzot_: #ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[09:38] <themzot_> \ #gympedin
[09:44] <mith_> !keyboard
[09:44] <ubotu> To switch your keyboard layout on GNOME: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (GNOME) - KDE: K -> System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout (KDE) - Xfce: see https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[09:44] <mith_> !Shortcuts
[09:44] <ubotu> keyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[09:45] <ForgeAus> Riddell Google: AndLinux (its based on CoLinux)
[09:46] <ForgeAus> its interesting, not there yet but quite good
[09:46] <ForgeAus> basically runs from a .drv file (which is a 4 gig hardfile of a kubuntu dustro)
[09:46] <ForgeAus> grr distro
[09:46] <ForgeAus> its cut down of course
[09:47] <ForgeAus> theres also a smaller 100 or so mb xfce one
[09:47] <ForgeAus> and a swap .drv
[09:47] <nareshov> Hi, does the kubuntu installer do LVM install?
[09:47] <ForgeAus> but the .drv files are pretty much static (although they are resizable there's a tool with it for that)
[09:49] <ForgeAus> only one problem I don't know how to shut it down lol
[09:51] <ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL> Всем добрый день!
[09:55] <jussi01> !ru | ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL
[09:55] <ubotu> ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[09:56] <ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL> Sorry, I was wrong...
[09:59] <nicobrain> moin, moin
[10:00] <nicobrain> kann ich mir aus ner live-cd nen command-line system installieren?
[10:00] <llutz> !de | nicobrain nur wenn du nach installation 90% des Sys löschst
[10:00] <ubotu> nicobrain nur wenn du nach installation 90% des Sys löschst: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:01] <ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL> My players (coffein and oth.) don't show video. What's the reason?
[10:01] <nicobrain> ah okay...danke
[10:02] <ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL> Did anybody have such problem?
[10:03] <ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL> My players (coffein and oth.) don't show video. Did anybody have such problem?
[10:06] <jussi01> ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL: what kind of video, and are you getting an error message?
[10:07] <ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL> Video - .avi ; mpg. No message. Scrollbar is going like video is  played...
[10:08] <jussi01> !avi | ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL
[10:08] <ubotu> ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:09] <Creationist> ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL: Have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[10:10] <ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL> I'll test it now...
[10:12] <jussi01> ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL: that should be kubuntu-restricted-extras for kubuntu
[10:14] <nareshov> Does the Kubuntu installed support LVM installs?
[10:15] <nareshov> installer*
[10:17] <jussi01> !lvm | nareshov
[10:17] <ubotu> nareshov: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[10:23] <ForgeAus> hmm how to do kde3 + kde4?
[10:26] <jussi01> ForgeAus: just install kde4 on top of a kde3 install - you will find instructions in the topic of #kubuntu-kde4
[10:27] <ForgeAus> lol the topic there says to come here :)
[10:27] <ForgeAus> 'This channel is for KDE4 support on Kubuntu only. If you are running KDE3, please go to #kubuntu
[10:28] <inetpro> ja maar wys vir Frikkadel
[10:28] <neville> Has anybody here ever used Uck?
[10:28] <neville> If so, what have they thought of it?
[10:28] <jussi01> ForgeAus: hmmm, I suppose you could read it like that.
[10:28] <inetpro> oops ... sorry
[10:29] <ForgeAus> I'm trying to do something that it probably shouldn't be able to do anyway, for now I'm happy to leave it
[10:30] <ForgeAus> I'm just happy to have whats turning out to essentially be an embedded kubuntu in my windows
[10:30] <ForgeAus> ogl support is terrible tho
[10:30] <ForgeAus> I need a better diff X-server or something to replace TAP whatever that is
[10:32] <jussi01> neville: what is it?
[10:32] <ForgeAus> hehe I'd be interesting to see if wine does anything more from inside andlinux than it does in plain kubuntu
[10:32] <jussi01> nm...
[10:32] <neville> Ubuntu Customisation Kit
[10:32] <jussi01> !uck
[10:32] <ubotu> UCK is a tool that helps you customise official Ubuntu Live CDs (including Kubuntu/Xubuntu and Edubuntu) to your needs. See http://uck.sourceforge.net/
[10:32] <jussi01> :D
[10:32] <ForgeAus> whats gobuntu?
[10:33] <neville> So far, it seems to be awesome :D
[10:33] <jussi01> !gobuntu
[10:33] <ubotu> gobuntu is a freedom-focused flavour of Ubuntu intended for experienced Linux enthusiasts. See http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/gobuntu for more information and download mirrors..
[10:33] <ForgeAus> oh so its just missing non FOSS stuff?
[10:33] <neville> No more having to download everything again after format for me :D
[10:33] <ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL> I use a laptop Asus, but sound doesn't work completely. Alsamixer didn't help... what can I do?
[10:33] <jussi01> ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL: which sound card ?
[10:34] <ForgeAus> I had problems with Asus and sound with kubuntu too
[10:34] <jussi01> ForgeAus: pretty much
[10:34] <ForgeAus> still dunno what they were
[10:34] <ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL> Realtek
[10:34] <jussi01> a little more info would be good ;)
[10:34] <ForgeAus> ok now I can get rid of interix and maybe pkgsrc bootstrap my andlinux (I'm sure it wasn't meant for that! rofl but it could b fun)
[10:35] <ForgeAus> also to test if slackware binaries work in AndLinux like they do in Kubuntu
[10:36] <ForgeAus> if this works I don't need to fix my kubuntu partition I can just use this instead
[10:36] <ForgeAus> and maybe put MacOSX there in place of it:)
[10:37] <jussi01> ForgeAus: -offtopic ;)
[10:38] <ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL> jussi01: How can i watch version of my sound card (for more information)?
[10:39] <phobos_> hey
[10:39] <phobos_> how to intall KDE4.0
[10:39] <jussi01> ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL: lspci in terminal should have it listed
[10:39] <jussi01> !kde4 | phobos_
[10:39] <ubotu> phobos_: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[10:41] <phobos_> thx men
[10:44] <ctx144k> anyone knows how to change resolution of kubuntu7.10 splashscreen?
[10:44] <ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL> jussi01: I can send you result of lspci
[10:46] <ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL> Because I can't understand it's results...
[10:46] <psi_> i have an issue with mplayer when it starts playing a movie the picture is massive any ideas?
[10:47] <ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL> Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon X1200 Series Audio Controller
[10:48] <ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL> \n
[10:54] <ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL> I have kubuntu on lap-top Asus. Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon X1200 Series Audio Controller. There's no sound. What should I do?
[10:56] <jussi01> !sound
[10:56] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:56] <jussi01> ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL: sorry, was away for afew mins
[10:57] <ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL> Don't matter...
[10:57] <ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL> So, what do you think about this?
[10:58] <jussi01> ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL: did you do what the bot instructed?
[10:59] <ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL> I'm doing this now, but links are not so helpful...
[11:00] <jussi01> ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL: you tried the first part: K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked
[11:03] <ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL> Of course, I did it first
[11:07] <m_tadeu> hi...is there a way to install the openoffice2.3 packages in feisty?
[11:10] <thanasi> m_tadeu: there might be packages or installers on the openoffice site, but i'm not sure
[11:12] <m_tadeu> thanasi: just installer binaries....was avoiding that. I'd rather use .deb packages from a repository
[11:13] <thanasi> m_tadeu: not sure then. haven't tried it yet
[11:22] <PolitikerALT> Does anyone know a tool to temporarily disable one core (Intel Core 2 Duo) in order to save energy?
[11:27] <Lynoure> PolitikerALT: is there such a tool for some OS out there?
[11:28] <tomahasamoot> How can I download src pkgs?
[11:30] <Lynoure> tomahasamoot: apt-get source packagename
[11:30] <tomahasamoot> oh thanks!
[11:31] <tomahasamoot> I thot I was looking for foo-src
[11:32] <tomahasamoot> what directory will it dump the source files into?
[11:32] <jussi01> !shortcuts
[11:32] <ubotu> keyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[11:33] <Lynoure> tomahasamoot: the once you are in.
[11:33] <tomahasamoot> ok
[11:33] <tomahasamoot> thanks
[11:38] <ROOT_OF_ALL_EVIL> How to run 'ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run'?
[11:39] <jussi01> ./ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run from the dir its in
[11:40] <Tecmi> i have kubuntu 7.10 in cd, someone know how to boot from disk if i dont have access to bios?
[11:41] <Tecmi> i hate these schools computers, everything disabled.
[11:41] <Lynoure> Tecmi: it's not really a kubuntu problem... if your bios does not boot from disk, and you cannot access it (why?), you are pretty much out of luck
[11:41] <ForgeAus> argh I need OSX86!
[11:41] <thanasi> Tecmi: can you edit menu.lst for grub?
[11:42] <Lynoure> Tecmi: I feel your pain, but alas, without bios block / no disk boot they'd have to get reinstalled nightly in most schools... and some actually go that route.
[11:42] <Tecmi> no, have vista in ewery computer and disalloved to use them as logged root
[11:42] <Tecmi> i just wanted tu run kubuntu from disk, not install or anything :)
[11:43] <Tecmi> and sry about my poor english skills
[11:43] <thanasi> Tecmi: no luck then. if you can install a VM you can boot it from there but you'll stille need admin rights to install anything
[11:43] <thanasi> still*
[11:43] <Tecmi> yep
[11:44] <Lynoure> Tecmi: yes, unfortunately for each kubuntu booter there is couple of kids who really like to mess up things... You could offer yourself as a volunteer and get bios access, if they work that way there =)
[11:45] <jussi01> Tecmi: you could also check if usb boot has been enabled... ;)(or forgottoen to be disabled)
[11:45] <Tecmi> i think its disabled too.
[11:46] <Tecmi> maybe i just use that fucking putty
[11:46] <Tecmi> :p
[11:46] <jussi01> !ohmy
[11:46] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[11:47] <Tecmi> thx 4 all, i try that usb boot later
[11:52] <simion314> hi, can i load in parallels my real windows xp partition? it will be a waste of space and time to install other xp
[11:53]  * ForgeAus shrugs
[11:57] <Lynoure> simion314: parallels? isn't that closed source stuff, for os x, mostly? and on win xp? Is there Kubuntu there somewhere in that question?
[11:58] <simion314> Lynoure:  yes, it is avaiable for ubuntu 15 days trial in repositories, i want to test it
[11:59] <ForgeAus> I don't know much about parallels
[12:00] <ForgeAus> has anyone pkgsrc bootstrapped their kubuntu?
[12:00] <ForgeAus> KuBSDuntu?
[12:01] <Lynoure> simion314: if it was in ubuntu repositories, I think it will only work in (k)ubuntu, not xp
[12:02] <ForgeAus> it would have to be a different version of it for XP
[12:02] <ForgeAus> but it may host XP I don't know
[12:02] <ForgeAus> for all I know it may do a good job of hosting XP
[12:03] <simion314> i can create a xp guest but i do not want that, i wish i can load my windows partition, just a test to compare with vmware
[12:09] <Lynoure> simion314: Maybe you can get Parallels trial for XP from somewhere else...
[12:10] <ForgeAus> you can use vmware to load your xp partition
[12:10] <ForgeAus> (or VirtualBox if you like, that'd be smaller)
[12:12] <ForgeAus> whats the point of having Adept become more like Synaptic if theres already a Kynaptic project?
[12:13] <jussi01> ForgeAus: that, I beleive would be a #kubuntu-devel question
[12:13] <ForgeAus> I agree there jussi :)
[12:16] <dscorbin> For some reason, none of my KDE windows are resizable.  Any ideas?  There is no "sizeable border"
[12:16] <Lynoure> dscorbin: sounds like some compiz thing...
[12:16] <lsz> ...or some kwin thing.
[12:17] <lsz> Hi all, i'm new here.
[12:17] <Lynoure> lsz: :)
[12:20] <dscorbin> Lynoure: compiz?
[12:20] <jussi01> !compiz
[12:20] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[12:21] <Lynoure> dscorbin: if you don't know what it is, and it's not a hand-me-down kubuntu you are running, you probably don't have it. So it would not then be the cause, either
[12:22] <lsz> ah, I also have some trouble with my compiz+emerald+kubuntu
[12:22] <dscorbin> It's brand new install of Kubuntu 7.10
[12:22] <lsz> when i start compiz, then run something like kmix or kopete, the icon won't appear in the sys tray
[12:23] <lsz> instead, it goes out of the panels and it is a very small window.
[12:23] <lsz> i have to run kwin --replace to get it in the right position.
[12:23] <jussi01> lsz: I often have that also - havent got a fix yet :/
[12:25] <emilsedgh> is there any archive available for #kubuntu?
[12:25] <lsz> @jussi01, you mean, it is a `feature' instead a bug?
[12:25] <Lynoure> lsz: there seems to be various kubuntu-compiz gui weirdnesses... and as I don't help with compiz here, it's usually my first question to the people with gui weirdness. :)
[12:25] <lsz> :D
[12:25] <jussi01> lsz: yeps :D
[12:30] <Lynoure> dscorbin: hmm, and there is absolutely no resizing possible at any of the edges? That is weird.
[12:30] <SlimeyPete> sounds like kwin hasn't loaded.
[12:31] <dscorbin> Yes, but not for all applications, just KDE ones.  Xchat and firefox are fine, but konsole, konquerer, etc are not
[12:31] <dscorbin> kwin is running
[12:32] <lsz> weird!
[12:33] <dscorbin> Yes.
[12:33] <dscorbin> I can maximize those widnows, but no simple reszing
[12:33] <lsz> do those windows have title bars?
[12:34] <dscorbin> Yes.
[12:34] <ForgeAus> careful it might be QT not KDE
[12:34] <lsz> right-click, any menu item say resize?
[12:34] <dscorbin> And I just discovered if I select Resize from the system menu, I can,and that leaves me  a "grabble border"
[12:34] <ForgeAus> whats a grabble border?
[12:34] <dscorbin> I mean i can then resize THAT window.
[12:35] <lsz> what THAT?
[12:35] <dscorbin> The window I selected RESIZE on.
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> freaky.
[12:35] <dscorbin> And ti appears to have chanced for new windows now.
[12:36] <dscorbin> Very....Things seem better now.  Hope it doesn't come back with a restart
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> you are not using compiz?
[12:36] <ForgeAus> dscorbin sounds like you modified something interesting somehow :)
[12:36] <lsz> Everything well?restart X and wish you good luck.
[12:36] <ForgeAus> does compiz-fusion work with better with KDE than beryl did?
[12:37] <ForgeAus> (it didn't have virtual desktop support from memory)
[12:37] <lsz> surely No
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> Beryl is dead. :)
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> compiz - works.. decently well.
[12:37] <ForgeAus> well not dead, it merged back into compiz
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> it got assimulated. :)
[12:37] <ForgeAus> thas why compiz-fusion
[12:37] <ForgeAus> the fusion bit to indicate reintegration with beryl
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> but the lack of beryl in the name means.. they dident  like the name. :)
[12:38] <ForgeAus> afterall initially all it was was a fork of the beryl project anyway :)
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> Then again.. compiz-fusion is a bit of a mouthfull
[12:38] <lsz> I added "kwin --replace" and "compiz" and "emerald --replace" into my panel
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> The servent has became the master! Young Grasshopper!
[12:38] <ForgeAus> well after a few releases it will probably just drop back to being compiz :)
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> :)
[12:38] <lsz> because i often use that
[12:38] <jussi01> !beryl
[12:38] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[12:39] <ForgeAus> jussi I think I just got through saying that
[12:39] <ForgeAus> well I didn't say about beryl being discouraged but if anyone planned to install beryl I'd have recommended compiz-fusion instead :)
[12:40] <ForgeAus> but now you did that... it makes me wonder something
[12:40] <ForgeAus> !compiz
[12:40] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[12:40] <ForgeAus> :)
[12:41] <ForgeAus> I might change my mimetypes and make krusader my default file manager I think
[12:50] <ForgeAus> hmmm AndLinux is smoother internet than my native Windows, thats strange
[12:50] <ForgeAus> especially since it passes through
[12:51] <psi_> arrrgghh all my fonts are tiny and i can't read the text in this chat room how do i fix it can some one wright in caps please
[12:52] <lsz> LOOK AT YOUR CLIENT‘S PREF！
[12:52] <savetheWorld> psi_: WHAT PROGRAM ARE YOU USING?
[12:52] <psi_> look at my what?
[12:52] <savetheWorld> psi_: WHAT PROGRAM ARE YOU USING?
[12:52] <lsz> PREFERENCE
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> IF your over all fonts are tiny in kde - you can set them all with the fonts control panel settings.
[12:52] <psi_> nope can't see it
[12:52] <savetheWorld> psi_: WHAT PROGRAM ARE YOU USING?
[12:53] <lsz> MUST I WRITE IN ASCII ARTS？ ：的
[12:53] <psi_> sigh guess i got to reinstall kubuntu thanks for trying guys
[12:53] <lsz> :D, i mean
[12:53] <lsz>  ：的 should be :D
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> and reinstalling will fix fonts how exactly?
[12:53] <savetheWorld> I guess the more serious question is should someone who cant figure that out be allowed to use a computer? Even Windows users can solve that.
[12:54] <ForgeAus> as much as I hate to admit it GTK is handy :(
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> You could hit alt-ctrl NUMPAD + and - to set the  res lower
[12:54] <CJari> hi
[12:55] <lsz>   savetheWorld: I don't quite understand your "should someone who cant figure that out be allowed to use"
[12:55] <jussi01> !hi | CJari
[12:55] <ubotu> CJari: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[12:55] <CJari> I'm trying to figure why rosegarden stopped playing the midi files, I wonder if there's other program taking the sound system?
[12:56] <lsz> arts + timidity = a lot of trouble
[12:56] <CJari> actually I hear no sounds at all in rosegarden but other apps play sounds
[12:56] <jussi01> !midi
[12:56] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[12:56] <lsz> that's your rosegarden didn't link to the arts
[12:57] <CJari> jussi01: actually its not just the midi, but all the notes when you record, maybe they use the midi?
[12:57] <lsz> i had the same trouble with noteedit a few days ago, and i still don't know what did i do
[12:58] <lsz> but it works now.
[12:58] <CJari> hmm do I need timidity library in order to play midi in rosegarden?
[12:59] <lsz> don't know rosegarden because i havn't used that.
[12:59] <CJari> ok
[12:59] <lsz> Did rosegarden work yesterday?
[12:59] <lsz> or some other day?
[13:01] <jussi01> CJari: if you dont get an answer here, you may find someone in #ubuntustudio knows
[13:02] <CJari> lsz it worked just a while ago :) then I dont know what happened
[13:02] <CJari> but Im used to kill the timidity process, now I uninstalled it, maybe thats it
[13:02] <CJari> and I restarted few times
[13:03] <lsz> CJari: OK, then just do something like restart X, config the sound system in kcontrol/systemsettings, restart artsd...
[13:03] <lsz>  CJari: ...and even restart linux...
[13:03] <lsz> and wish a good luck.
[13:06] <CJari> lsz I did restart linux :)
[13:06] <CJari> thanks
[13:08] <lsz> CJari: I just tried a lot of useless things and now it works...I don't know further. Maybe it is because the arts takes your soundcard, and others(timidity, rosegarden) can't access it.
[13:09] <CJari> lsz hmmm ok I used the kill command to end artsd but it didnt help
[13:09] <CJari> using timidity again - that always works
[13:21] <ses59_> i have problem with booting my computer.  I tried to load kde 4 and had bad install of adobereader 32 bit on 64 system
[13:21] <ses59_> and kde 4 crashed and had apt-get to remove it
[13:22] <lsz> KDE 4 support in #kubuntu-kde4  ...
[13:22] <ses59_> now get this error on reboot:Kinit: name_to_dev_t (/dev/disk/by-uuid/f2494166-068f-40f4-95ad-ed3d9060b448 = sda5 (8,5
[13:22] <ses59_> Kinit: trying to resume from /dev/disk/by uuid/f2494166-068f-40f4-95ad-ed3d9060b448 this also
[13:23] <ses59_> Kinit: No resume image, doing norman boot . . .
[13:23] <lsz> this is not an error message because i see something like this every day
[13:23] <ses59_> what file do i need to edit to fix it where it ask to be loged in
[13:24] <lsz> on my computer, after"doing normal boot...", the splash screen stand out .
[13:24] <ses59_> i do not get login screen now and permission are not correct on my log now i can not reboot the computer
[13:25] <bentob0x> anybody knows how to make pulseaudio working with Kubuntu 7.10?
[13:25] <ses59_> ok not an error but still need to fix for login screen is up and get permission reset
[13:25] <lsz> ses59_: what did you do before that crash?
[13:26] <lsz> just a set of apt-get?
[13:26] <ses59_> i was trying to open pdf file and it lockup and then on hard reboot task bar gone and nothing working
[13:27] <MGalaxy> how can I force thunderbird to open FEEDs in Firefox, not in a new window in thunderbird?
[13:27] <ses59_> did go recovery mode and run apt-get to remove some of kde 4 settings and now can log in and start x and get desktop
[13:27] <lsz> did you try recovery mode?
[13:27] <lsz> ...
[13:28] <lsz> you mean, you are root now?
[13:29] <ses59_> can i delete the setting under /dev/disk/by uuid/ long number
[13:29] <LukeLM> Hi everyone.. I just went to remove KDE-4, and I thought selecting any packages with 'kde4' in them would be good.. however it wasw not and I removed some other packages like kdesktop by accident.. now when I go to readd them I get stuff like "broken packages". Can anyone help?
[13:29] <ses59_> no not root but loged in with my name and password
[13:30] <ForgeAus> like you need to fixbroken
[13:30] <lsz> just try rename the settings...
[13:30] <ForgeAus> grr LukeLM you need to fix-broken
[13:30] <ses59_> lukeLM sounds like you and I tried kde 4 to soon
[13:30] <hellmaster> good morning everyone
[13:30] <LukeLM> dpkg --fix-broken ?
[13:30] <lsz> I tried kde4 too
[13:30] <ForgeAus> yeah well kde-4 is fairly new (practically still in beta)
[13:31] <lsz> but that works fairly well
[13:31] <lsz> after all, i prefer kde3 now.
[13:31] <ForgeAus> Luke I don't remember which command its a switch of but if I were you I'd try it with apt-get before I'd go dpkg
[13:31] <hellmaster> i have a question, how do i know my current screen resolution and how can i change it?
[13:31] <ForgeAus> kcontrol hellmaster (or system-settings)
[13:32] <lsz> systemsettings, not system-settings
[13:32] <ForgeAus> or if you like cli I think you can use xrandr
[13:33] <hellmaster> im in kcontrol, where exactly?
[13:33] <ForgeAus> there should be a monitors subseciton there
[13:34] <hellmaster> thanks!!!
[13:34] <lsz> oh by the way, i have a question here
[13:35] <lsz> my locale is Chinese(zh-cn), but some of the text here is in some language other than Chinese and English
[13:36] <lsz> they are like:"Sol kenar üstte","Basasagi"
[13:37] <lsz> and there is something under the "s" and above "g" in "Basasagi"
[13:38] <lsz> who knows what's that?
[13:41] <ForgeAus> hehe using compiz to make my XP desktop rotate would be impressive :)
[13:44] <tomahasamoot> ForgeAus: you can do that, put XP in a VM on your desktop, then rotate away
[13:48] <lsz> you can rotate without compiz in xp, i remember.
[13:49] <Bauldrick> any good web filter programs for kids
[13:49] <Xbehave> is there any way to find out memory frequency?
[13:52] <lsz> Xbehave: yes
[13:53] <lsz> 输入 sudo lshw 也可以察看看这些信息.注意这里的 *-memory 下面有 *-bank:0 之类的代表内存插槽,再下面有 clock: 533MHz (1.9ns) 代表此插槽上插的是DDR 533 的内存.(注意这里不加sudo就看不到内存频率)
[13:53] <lsz> er...let me translate it for you.
[13:54] <lsz> sudo lshw
[13:54] <lsz> then find something like *-memory, then you will find something like 533MHz (1.9ns)
[13:54] <lsz> if you don;t sudo, no freq will be shown.
[13:56] <Xbehave> whats the command because my knoversation showed sudo lshw *wierd characters* *-memory  *more charagers* *-bank:0
[13:57] <lsz> just
[13:57] <lsz> sudo lshw
[13:57] <Xbehave> thx
[13:58] <lsz> that's Chinese...
[13:58] <lsz> what's uhlmi doing...
[14:01] <Xbehave> uhlmi?
[14:01] <lsz> ok, nothing...
[14:02] <harmental> hey guys...does anyone have an external USB fat32 HD which is mounted automatically at startup (when plugged obviously)?
[14:02] <harmental> if so....could he be gentle enough to pass me the fstab line achieving that?
[14:02] <lsz> just unplug then plug, then it will be mounted...
[14:02] <harmental> i've been dealing with this since yesterday ...and nothing seems to work....
[14:03] <lsz> i think it is something like /dev/sdb1 or something
[14:03] <harmental> lsz: actually that's the part that works...but i want the HD to be mounted automagically at startup....
[14:03] <flats> Anyone know where java installs to?  I just installed the latest and I need to set it up for use with firefox and all the sun info says it installs into usr/lib/ but I can't find it there!!!
[14:03] <flats> I need to add it as a plugin but just can't find it
[14:04] <Xbehave> firefox plugins are in a few places, i use /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[14:04] <flats> I found the plugin folder
[14:04] <lsz> java is in /usr/lib/j*****
[14:04] <flats> That what it says, but I don't see it.  It's not a hidden file is it?
[14:05] <lsz> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.03/
[14:05] <lsz> something like that.
[14:05] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[14:05] <flats> I dont have any directory even starting with a j
[14:05] <flats> in usr/lib
[14:05] <flats> ahhh wait do I have to be root to see it?
[14:06] <lsz> no
[14:07] <flats> java -> /etc/alternatives/java.....   this is the only thing I see as root
[14:07] <flats> in /usr/lib
[14:07] <lsz> run jcontrol
[14:07] <lsz> then in the second tab: Java
[14:07] <lsz> you will find it there
[14:08] <Xbehave> i ran lshw and i get "*-bank:1/ description: DIMM DDR Synch/physical id: 1/ slot: M2/ size: 256MB/ width: 64 bits" but theres no frequecy
[14:08] <lsz> sudo lshw
[14:09] <lsz> sudo lshw | grep Hz
[14:09] <lsz> if you like, this is better.
[14:09] <Xbehave> yeah sudo lshw
[14:09] <lsz> description: DIMM DDR Synchronous 533 MHz (1.9 ns)
[14:09] <psi_> ahhhh fixed fonts lol
[14:09] <lsz> that's mine
[14:09] <_Angelus_> weeeeeeee
[14:09] <_Angelus_> finally there a timer to suspend and to turn off pc on kubuntu tanks to kde4
[14:09] <_Angelus_> hurray
[14:10] <psi_> i have just installed kubuntu again and it says there are 130 updates i click to install them then it says there is aversion update and freezes then i have to quit out of it when i reboot pc kubuntu dies
[14:11] <lsz> poor psi_
[14:12] <lsz> Xbehave: did you get it?
[14:12] <lsz>         *-bank:0             description: DIMM DDR Synchronous 533 MHz (1.9 ns)             physical id: 0             slot: DIMM 1             size: 512MB             width: 64 bits             clock: 533MHz (1.9ns)
[14:12] <eddy> plz where i find the acer aspire 5050 wireless driver for ndiswrapper
[14:12] <psi_> is it best to update through console using apt-get or use GUI?
[14:13] <lsz> apt-get and synaptics are the same, i think
[14:13] <Xbehave> i get it without the clock perhaps its because its in the 2nd slot
[14:13] <lsz> but my adept often crash
[14:13] <psi_> mine crashes often to
[14:13] <psi_> but it freezes every time i try to install the 130 updates
[14:14] <psi_> what is command to update via console?
[14:14] <Xbehave> sudo aptitude safe-update
[14:15] <Xbehave> oops i meant or sudo aptitude dist-updgrade
[14:15] <psi_> thanks
[14:15] <psi_> error
[14:15] <Xbehave> but you need to sudo aptitude update 1st
[14:16] <psi_> did that now what
[14:16] <psi_> This aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers.
[14:17] <Xbehave> sudo aptitude dist-upgrade should work what error do you get
[14:17] <Flavio> hi guys
[14:17] <psi_> thats working now thanks
[14:17] <Flavio> annyone here who speaks german ?
[14:17] <alf_> hi. does anybody know russian support channel?
[14:17] <Xbehave> !russian
[14:17] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[14:18] <psi_> #kubuntu-ru
[14:18] <alf_> thank you
[14:18] <psi_> i was so slose
[14:18] <Flavio> #kubuntu-de :D
[14:18] <Flavio> thx
[14:19] <alf_> it's empty(((
[14:19] <psi_> !ubotu
[14:19] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[14:19] <psi_> alf_: #ubuntu-ru
[14:20] <alf_> thx
[14:21] <BluesKaj> maybe the russian room name script should be cyrillic :P
[14:21] <psi_> !polish
[14:21] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[14:21] <psi_> !welsh
[14:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about welsh - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:21] <eddy> plz where i find the acer aspire 5050 wireless driver for ndiswrapper
[14:21] <psi_> !scotish
[14:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scotish - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:21] <BluesKaj> polish isn't cyrillic , ukranian is
[14:21] <psi_> !cornish
[14:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cornish - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:22] <eddy> plz where i find the acer aspire 5050 wireless driver for ndiswrapper
[14:22] <lsz> !chinese
[14:22] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[14:22] <lsz> !kde
[14:22] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gutsy and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[14:22] <alf_> !ukrainian
[14:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ukrainian - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:22] <psi_> eddy: what chipset is it
[14:22] <lsz> !chipset
[14:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chipset - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:23] <lsz> !ubotu
[14:23] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[14:23] <lsz> !anything
[14:23] <ubotu> So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.
[14:23] <lsz> ...
[14:24] <BluesKaj> psi & lsz ... enuff alreddy !
[14:24] <psi_> i stopped ages ago
[14:24] <psi_> eddy: ???
[14:25] <lsz> oh, i looked enuff up in the dict.
[14:25] <psi_> eddy: http://download.driverscollection.com/drivers/b970da7affd138f664e3aae3f65a3a67/47ac665e/A/ACER/Notebooks/WLAN.zip
[14:26] <eddy> its a atheros chipset
[14:26] <eddy> i think
[14:27] <psi_> any one here use virgin boradband?
[14:27] <psi_> yes eddy it is a atheros chipset you can download drivers from here http://driverscollection.com/?file_id=38428
[14:34] <eddy> well i start already download but when it finish, how i will use the ndiswrappper
[14:35] <eddy> sorry for my english
[14:36] <sub[t]rnl> eddy➜ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29
[14:37] <ForgeAus> well sub I was right about the /etc thing with my fglxr (sp)
[14:37] <ForgeAus> everythign has gone from /etc/alternatives
[14:37] <ForgeAus> so links missing all over the place
[14:37]  * genii puts on a new pot of coffee and settles in
[14:37] <ForgeAus> working on getting some back
[14:37] <sub[t]rnl> ForgeAus➜ cool, ever get it sorted out?
[14:38] <ForgeAus> I'm learning and getting a few steps closer but I don't think I'd go as far as to say sorted out
[14:38] <ForgeAus> also a few other directories were turned into files too
[14:38] <ForgeAus> so not likely going to work in a hurry
[14:38] <ForgeAus> I need to identify which ones and fix them but not easily done
[14:39] <ForgeAus> too busy toying with andlinux :)
[14:39] <ForgeAus> (its nice too)
[14:39] <ForgeAus> but no desktop
[14:40] <ForgeAus> (its basically an interoperable kde for windows)
[14:40] <ForgeAus> well more than just kde more like kubuntu
[14:40] <ForgeAus> for example you can run kpackage directly on your desktop :)
[14:40] <ForgeAus> (that is your windows desktop)
[14:41] <ForgeAus> KDE4Win is similar I guess
[14:43] <ForgeAus> hmmm I wonder if they'll find a way to pass DirectX through Wine :)
[14:43] <ForgeAus> not that theres a need to really
[14:43] <ForgeAus> since you can run windows apps natively in the windows host shell :)
[14:45] <Xbehave> they wouldnt the wine devs want to replace windows API so i doubt theyd go out of thier way so that people break MS copyright,
[14:46] <ForgeAus> Xbehave? what do you mean?
[14:47] <ForgeAus> if your running AndLinux from within windows you already have DirectX capability, all you need for Wine to do is pick up on it and pass through ...
[14:47] <ForgeAus> no copyright issue there is there?
[14:47] <ForgeAus> (implementing DirectX in Wine may or may not be copyright issue I wouldn't know personally)
[14:48] <Xbehave> ah right i miss understood
[14:48] <psicobra> i'm back baby
[14:48] <ForgeAus> hehe did you bring your front with you?
[14:48] <psicobra> damit i always forget that 1
[14:49] <ForgeAus> rofl
[14:49] <psicobra> woohoo found it
[14:49] <ForgeAus> found what?
[14:49] <psicobra> now i'm front and back baby
[14:49] <ForgeAus> more like back to front
[14:49] <psicobra> damit now i gots to walk backwards
[14:50] <psicobra> stairs are going to be tricky
[14:50] <ForgeAus> lol well you did say you found something without saying what it was you found
[14:50] <psicobra> my front
[14:50] <ForgeAus> oh is that all
[14:50] <psicobra> kinda improtant tho
[14:50] <ForgeAus> I'm rather attached to mine
[14:50] <psicobra> i was once to
[14:50] <psicobra> untill the accident
[14:51] <eddy> thank for the help
[14:51] <ForgeAus> anyway anyone actual kubuntu problems that I probably cant solve?
[14:51] <ForgeAus> I think I missed out a got any in there somewhere
[14:51] <Xcell> which onboard temperature pgm is best?
[14:51] <ForgeAus> :) there we go
[14:52] <psicobra> gkrellm
[14:52] <Xcell> k
[14:52] <psicobra> Xcell:
[14:52] <Xcell> t/y
[14:52] <Xcell> ya
[14:52] <psicobra> just ment that the gkrellm was directed at you
[14:52] <Xcell> k
[14:59] <_Angelus_> guys, where is the trash bin in kde4.0.1?
[14:59] <_Angelus_> :S
[14:59] <lg188> i think right below ...:s
[15:00] <lg188> :s in your bar
[15:01] <lg188> .. hi somebody .js knowledge ?
[15:01] <_Angelus_> :S
[15:01] <_Angelus_> i have a lot of missing packages
[15:01] <_Angelus_> is there some package that installs every kde4.0.1 package ?
[15:05] <lg188> i donth think so _Angelus_  ..
[15:05] <_Angelus_> there is
[15:05] <_Angelus_> its called kde4
[15:05] <_Angelus_> but somehow it installs some kde4.0.0 packages
[15:06] <BluesKaj> _Angelus_, yes , but do you really want that ... there are so many pkgs
[15:06] <_Angelus_> of course
[15:06] <_Angelus_> im a big kde fan, and i want everything kde offers :P
[15:06] <lg188> why do you ask it than ??
[15:06] <_Angelus_> lg188:  cause i didnt know that kde4 package existed
[15:07] <_Angelus_> i discovered it 2mins ago :P
[15:07] <ForgeAus> I'm a kde fan too :)
[15:07] <Freku> well, start a fan club
[15:07] <_Angelus_> yeah
[15:07] <ForgeAus> yeah in the kicker replacement (I think it might be called kickoff now nless thats the menu)
[15:10] <BluesKaj> kickoff is the Suse kicker eye candy
[15:11] <_Angelus_> yeah
[15:11] <alf_> ! russian
[15:11] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[15:11] <alf_> !russian
[15:11] <_Angelus_> :O
[15:12]  * _Angelus_ tries to understand that
[15:13] <misticwarrior> hey
[15:13] <lg188> you say it excepted 1 sentence after that you say there isn't that there is ??
[15:13] <misticwarrior> wazup ?
[15:13] <lg188> good
[15:14] <lg188> somebody that has .js knowledge ?
[15:14] <misticwarrior> I have a problem with a wifi card... In fact it's a belkin (PCI), and when I plug it in a PCI port, kubuntu doesn't want to start... it stops at "detecting hardware drivers"... Do you know why ?
[15:14] <alf_> !russian
[15:14] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[15:15] <lg188> somthing roge with the driver
[15:15] <alf_> !russian
[15:15] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[15:15] <lg188> search for a driver i think
[15:15] <BluesKaj> alf_, stop that
[15:15] <lg188> alf stop it
[15:16] <alf_> sorry, i have problems with my connection
[15:16] <BluesKaj> alf_, calling up the bot isn't going to help your connection
[15:17] <alf_> i didn't receive answer here
[15:17] <lg188> so what ? you don't have to spam us with "!Russian" thing allright ?
[15:17] <lg188> sombody .js knowledge please private chat me
[15:17] <alf_> i am sorry for that, i thought my messges don't go there
[15:18] <lg188> kk it's allright
[15:18] <BluesKaj> lg188, just ask your question in here
[15:18] <lg188> somebody .js knowledge please private chat me
[15:18] <Xbehave> !russian > juan
[15:18] <lg188> owh yeah sorry for multi ask sorry for that
[15:19] <Xbehave> alf you can /msg ubotu russian for the info too
[15:19] <misticwarrior>  I have a problem with a wifi card... In fact it's a belkin (PCI), and when I plug it in a PCI port, kubuntu doesn't want to start... it stops at "detecting hardware drivers"... Do you know why ?
[15:19] <lg188> Xbehave: its :"!russian | juan" i think or are things changed ?
[15:20] <Xbehave> nah i got it wrong
[15:20] <Xbehave> !ubotu | juan
[15:20] <ubotu> juan: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[15:20] <Xbehave> is there no way for it to pm the answer ?
[15:20] <alf_> ok than. i just have a problem while rebooting kubuntu 7.04. it isn't shutting down and paints strange picture of stripes and dots on a screen. where can i look log file?
[15:20] <lg188> !ubotu |lg188
[15:21] <BluesKaj> lg188, no, the !ru > juan  works , the bot opens a PM on juan's client , not here
[15:21] <amik> hi, can someone help me out with detecting a wireless network?
[15:21] <BluesKaj> !wireless
[15:21] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[15:21] <Xbehave> o yeah i just got my name wrong and spammed somebody called juan oops
[15:23] <ctx144k> which pakackage include the default - (k)ubuntu - kernel?
[15:24] <amik> the thing is KNetworkManager at first showed three possible networks to connect to, but then I chose 'manual configuration', which managed to connect properly. However, I want to return to 'automatic' knetworkmanager operation, but now knetworkmanager doesn't show any wireless networks...
[15:24] <Xbehave> ctx144k:  linux-generic
[15:24] <amik> is there any way to 'undo' the manual configuration and have knetworkmanager do it's automatic thing like it did before?
[15:25] <ctx144k> upps sorry, i mean the kernel-source
[15:25] <lg188> oh kk
[15:26] <alf_> and while it freezes, caps lock is blinking.
[15:27] <lg188> somebody .js knowledge please private chat me ?
[15:27] <Xbehave> ctx144k: linux-source
[15:28] <ibou> is it possible to automatically launch knotes on boot ?
[15:28] <ctx144k> thx
[15:28] <_Angelus_> ibou: add it to .kde/Autostart
[15:29] <lg188> i think by just using it ...
[15:29] <ibou> _Angelus_: how ?
[15:29] <Xbehave> whats the point of hibernation in kubuntu?
[15:29] <ctx144k> Xbehave, so easy :-)
[15:29] <ctx144k> thx
[15:29] <Xbehave> np
[15:29] <_Angelus_> ibou: "echo "knotes" > ~/.kde/Autostart/Knotes.sh
[15:29] <_Angelus_> :)
[15:30] <Xbehave> if i hibernate i come back to the same desktop if i reboot i come back to the same desktop session. does hibernation let you boot faster?
[15:30] <muesli_> Xbehave: no, that's not true
[15:30] <_Angelus_> no Xbehave
[15:30] <ibou> angelus thanks
[15:30] <muesli_> Xbehave: it will restart the applications
[15:30] <lg188> Xbehave:  its a sort of saving your sesion in windos what its auto doeing in kubuntu so idk
[15:30] <ibou> _Angelus_: thanks
[15:31] <amik> anyone? (didn't find an answer in the docs)
[15:31] <_Angelus_> Xbehave: Suspend boots faster, because it stores an image in ram, hibernation stores and image in hard drive
[15:31] <muesli_> Xbehave: but with hibernation all applications will stay in the very state you left them
[15:31] <siofwolves> hi. my screen size in kbuntu is stuck at 640 x 480 there are no other sizes in Monitor & Display - System Settings. Any idea's ?
[15:31] <_Angelus_> so the fastest is Suspend, hibernation is as slow as booting up Xbehave
[15:32] <Xbehave> thx
[15:32] <lg188> siofwolves:  thats wierd i think
[15:33] <_Angelus_> no problem ibou
[15:34] <Daisuke_Ido> siofwolves: what video card and what driver?
[15:34] <ibou> _Angelus_: should i write #!/bin/sh on the line before "echo "knotes"" ?
[15:34] <siofwolves> ati radeon 9800 and defualt driver
[15:35] <Daisuke_Ido> and i know nothing about ati :\
[15:35] <Daisuke_Ido> sorry :(
[15:35] <Xbehave> lshw wont give me my ram speed, does anybody no a good guide so i make sure i by the right ram?
[15:35] <Daisuke_Ido> i would recommend running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg' and setting the driver to ati
[15:35] <siofwolves> it did work normally, i was messing around with compiz and i think that may have something to do with it
[15:36] <lg188> ibou: try to update drivers ... or look for default screen i place of plug 'n play screen
[15:36] <_Angelus_> no ibou
[15:36] <Daisuke_Ido> Xbehave: do you know your processor and socket type?
[15:36] <siofwolves> i only installed kbutu yesterday, so i may just reinstall a bit later
[15:37] <Xbehave> Daisuke_Ido: not sure but i could probably find out
[15:38] <siofwolves> bbl
[15:40] <BluesKaj> kbutu eh ...
[15:41] <niall> is there any way to change the icons in kontact?
[15:41] <niall> the bigs ones on the left
[15:41] <lg188> somebody .js knowledge please private chat (google gadget scripting)
[15:41] <BluesKaj> lookin configure kontact
[15:42] <BluesKaj> !pm
[15:42] <niall> I've looked
[15:42] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[15:43] <misticwarrior> I have a problem with a belkin desktop wireless card. When I plug it in my PCI port, kubuntu doesn't want to start... it stops at "detecting hardware drivers"... do you know why ?
[15:46] <Selanit> Question: occasionally my system freezes completely - will not respond to the mouse, the keyboard, and cannot be accessed over the network.  When this happens, the caps lock and scroll lock lights on the keyboard begin flashing.  What do the flashing lights indicate?  Kernel panic?
[15:48] <ibou> each time i launch kontakt, i have korganizers alarm deamon which is launched too. I don't want it and do not find any option to avoid that. Is there one ?
[15:48] <BluesKaj> Selanit, could be an Xorg prob
[15:51] <_Angelus_> i installed every kde4 package, and i still dont have a trash can
[15:51] <Xbehave> its a celeron M but im having dificulty finding the socket
[15:51] <Selanit> BluesKaj:  It usually happens when I have just run a modprobe on my network driver, which I have to do frequently.
[15:56] <BluesKaj> Selanit, why do you have to modprobe your network driver ..is it misconfigged ?
[15:56] <JoshOvki> _Angelus_: what happens in dophin when you try to go to   trash:/   ?
[15:57] <lg188> afk
[15:58] <Xbehave> if i dont install cpu freq controlling software is the laptop set to run in dynamic mode or will it be running full speed all the time
[15:58] <Selanit> Typically, my network stops functioning about 2-5 minutes after I boot.  I can get it to work again by running ifdown wlan0, rmmod rt61, and modprobe rt61.  But sometimes when I do that the whole system freezes.  I'm heartily sick of the whole stupid thing.  I wish my network would just freaking work.
[15:58] <JoshOvki> Xbehave it is set to dynamic. But if you click the batter icon you can set what it does when plugged in and unplugged
[15:59] <BluesKaj> Selanit, is this a lan or wan , like an office or is it your home network?
[16:01] <Selanit> LAN - I've got a little linksys router hooked up to a cable modem.  All was well until my landlady re-did the stucco on the apartment building, at which time the cable outlet by the computer got disabled.  I had to move the router to the opposite end of the apartment, and switch to a wireless card in my desktop.
[16:01] <BluesKaj> oh i see it now an wan, ok
[16:01] <BluesKaj> bummer
[16:01] <Daisuke_Ido> well, technically a WLAN
[16:01] <Daisuke_Ido> :P
[16:02] <BluesKaj> !wireless | Selanit
[16:02] <ubotu> Selanit: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[16:02] <hansjd> hi there... i'm new to kubuntu, and i just downloaded the ATI driver from their webpage, and now i cant run the driver
[16:02] <Xbehave> JoshOvki: it does give me any options just when to suspedn /resume but aslong as its in dynamic i dont mind
[16:02] <Selanit> I went to a lot of trouble selecting my wireless card - I wound up with an Edimax EW-7128G, which has open source drivers.  But in order to get those open source drivers to function, I had to compile them manually and do a static configuration, and they still don't work reliably.
[16:03] <hansjd> shouldn't it just be sudo [file] ???
[16:03] <BluesKaj> hansjd, which ati card to you have ?
[16:03] <Selanit> And thank you for the link, but I've read all of those wifi docs and indeed written some of them.
[16:03] <psi_> hi all whats the command again mount a ntfs drive?
[16:03] <hansjd> BluesKaj:  x1600 mobility
[16:03] <Daisuke_Ido> the edimax is a ralink 2500 chipset, isn't it?
[16:03] <Selanit> It is an ralink chipset - hold on, lemme check the exact model
[16:04] <Selanit> It's an ralink rt61
[16:06] <Daisuke_Ido> that should work out of the box
[16:06] <Selanit> lspci says: 00:08.0 Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI
[16:06] <Selanit> And it didn't.
[16:06] <BluesKaj> hansjd, my advice is not to install the DL'd driver ...the proprietary ATI drivers don't work well on onboard/laptop graphics cards . You're better off trying the the restricted driver in system settings /advanced
[16:08] <hansjd> BluesKaj:  but they did work on my ubuntu installation i had...
[16:08] <Selanit> At the moment I'm using the CVS serialmonkey driver ...
[16:08] <Selanit> Maybe I should check to see if there's a new release in the last month or so.
[16:08] <hansjd> BluesKaj: now i just can't find out to install the drivers
[16:09] <hansjd> this is all i get when i try to install >sudo: ati-driver-installer-8-01-x86.x86_64.run: command not found<
[16:10] <BluesKaj> well hansjd, if you must ...the command is: ' ./ati-driver-installer-8-01-x86.x86_64.run '
[16:10] <hansjd> hmm... ok
[16:11] <hansjd> guess it's is different in kubuntu then :S
[16:11] <BluesKaj> .run files use the ./ command prefix
[16:13] <hansjd> root@hansjd-kubuntu:/home/hansjd# ./ati-driver-installer-8-01-x86.x86_64.run
[16:13] <hansjd> bash: ./ati-driver-installer-8-01-x86.x86_64.run: Permission denied
[16:13] <hansjd> doing something wrong?
[16:13] <Selanit> Nope, the rt61 driver hasn't been updated since last April.  Sigh.
[16:13] <LeeJunFan> is it package mtools that allows relabeling dos partitions?
[16:14] <acee1234> i cant get k3b to correctly burn a disk. it tells me it completed successfully untill i try to read the data and it finds none. i look at the back of the disk and it looks like it did a crap job writing with the banding
[16:14] <acee1234> any ideas
[16:15] <acee1234> if no ideas any suggestions where to ask
[16:15] <BluesKaj> hansjd, sudo /ati-driver-installer-8-01-x86.x86_64.run
[16:15] <BluesKaj> err sudo ./ati-driver-installer-8-01-x86.x86_64.run
[16:15] <Daisuke_Ido> acee1234: could be the drive, too
[16:15] <acee1234> Daisuke_Ido: works fine in windows boot
[16:16] <JuJuBee> Is there a way to lock the screensaver and desktop background so students cannot change it?
[16:17] <hansjd> BluesKaj: this is all i get... sudo: /ati-driver-installer-8-01-x86.x86_64.run: command not found
[16:17] <sigma_1234> is it marked at executable?
[16:18] <JoshOvki> hansjd sudo ./ati-driver-installer-8-01-x86.x86_64.run
[16:18] <JoshOvki> you have to remember that first dot
[16:18] <Daisuke_Ido> you are using the 64 bit version of kubuntu right?
[16:19] <hydrogen> JuJuBee: mm.. kiosk mode may allow you that extra bit of configuration
[16:19] <hydrogen> !find kiosk
[16:19] <ubotu> Found: kiosktool, datakiosk
[16:19] <hydrogen> !info kiosktool
[16:19] <ubotu> kiosktool (source: kiosktool): tool to configure the KDE kiosk framework. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0-1.1ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 442 kB, installed size 1704 kB
[16:19] <hansjd> Daisuke_Ido: nope it is a x86 and a x86_64
[16:19] <hansjd> JoshOvki:  i have tried with dot also... same response
[16:19] <BluesKaj> hansjd, i corrected the command , but I guess you didn't see that  sudo ./ati-driver-installer-8-01-x86.x86_64.run
[16:20] <JuJuBee> hydrogen : will that take over systemsettings? or should I lock that?
[16:20] <hansjd> BluesKaj:  i tried that too
[16:20] <JoshOvki> ok, hansjed   sudo chmod 777 ati-driver-installer-8-01-x86.x86_64.run
[16:20] <JoshOvki> then run the sudo ./ati-driver-installer-8-01-x86.x86_64.run again
[16:21] <ibou> each time i launch kontakt, i have korganizers alarm deamon which is launched too. I don't want it and do not find any option to avoid that. Is there one ?
[16:21] <hansjd> JoshOvki: thanks alot
[16:21] <BluesKaj> hansjd, or you could get exe permission in properties by right clicking on the file
[16:21] <hansjd> it worked
[16:22]  * BluesKaj forgets ppl don't check for permissions 
[16:22]  * JoshOvki agrees with BluesKaj
[16:22] <sigma_1234> ibou: i also want to do that
[16:23] <hansjd> BluesKaj: i have only tried ubuntu before this... i didn't have to check that there :/
[16:23] <BluesKaj> JoshOvki, what about chmod +x ...is that similar to chmod 777 ?
[16:24] <BluesKaj> hansen, well, this is kubuntu ... if you want the pleasures of kde , then you need to learn a few things is all :)
[16:24] <JoshOvki> BluesKaj, i think with  +x  it just gives all execute permissions, chmodding gives everyone read, write and execute
[16:24] <BluesKaj> oops sorry hansen
[16:25] <JuJuBee> hydrogen : you use kiosktool?
[16:25] <hydrogen> JuJuBee: I do not
[16:25] <JuJuBee> K
[16:25] <JuJuBee> Looks like "root" must be enabled to use it.
[16:25] <simion314> hi, how can i determine my boot partition?
[16:25] <BluesKaj> ok, JoshOvki , I'm the only user so I don't worry much about others :)
[16:26] <JoshOvki> BluesKaj: same here :) then why i use 777
[16:26] <JoshOvki> *thats
[16:26] <BluesKaj> hansjd , if kubuntu is too difficult you can always install gnome desktop , if you wish
[16:27] <Daisuke_Ido> there's also a great functionality-limited kde clone available
[16:28] <BluesKaj> ok JoshOvki , I'll make a note of that
[16:28] <ubuntu> hi all
[16:28] <SlimeyPete> hi.
[16:31] <ninHer> any ono isp user down here ?
[16:32] <abbe> hi channel
[16:33] <abbe> Is KDE 4.0.1 available in kubuntu 'gutsy' repositories ?
[16:33] <SlimeyPete> yes
[16:33] <SlimeyPete> !kde4
[16:33] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[16:33] <BluesKaj> !kde 4.0.1
[16:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde 4.0.1 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:34] <abbe> SlimeyPete: thanks
[16:34] <BluesKaj> interesting
[16:34] <SlimeyPete> (the kde4 repos have been updated to 4.0.1)
[16:34] <abbe> SlimeyPete: another question, I'm currently using KDE 4 from PPAs and want to switch to gutsy repositories
[16:35] <abbe> SlimeyPete: can I simply remove all KDE4 packages, and comment out kubuntu-members-kde4 PPA, and then install all KDE4 packages, hmm...
[16:35] <abbe> Is this recommended ?
[16:35] <SlimeyPete> yes, I think that should work. You should ask in #kubuntu-kde4 - someone there may have done it themselves.
[16:36] <abbe> okay thanks
[16:36] <snarkster> ok i installoed kde4 but for some reason cant install amarok..
[16:38] <ForgeAus> I have myself an apt problem
[16:38] <ForgeAus> its trying to install ltsp-client-core
[16:38] <ForgeAus> that didn't work because I'm not an ltsp client
[16:38] <ForgeAus> which is fine but it keeps telling me its an unmet dependancy and won't let me skip installing it
[16:39] <ForgeAus> I can't remove it either since it isn't installed
[16:39] <JoshOvki> ForgeAus:  sudo apt-get install -f
[16:39] <Daisuke_Ido> ForgeAus: i hit a problem like that not too long ago
[16:39] <Daisuke_Ido> and JoshOvki, $50 says he's tried that
[16:39] <Joker7680> anyone with HAL experience?
[16:40] <ForgeAus> grrr no josh doing that wasn't to install it
[16:40] <ForgeAus> erm sorry, don't that WANTS to install it
[16:41] <Daisuke_Ido> ForgeAus: i think i actually went and did dpkg -r <package name from /var/cache/apt/archives/>
[16:41] <alex_> anyone know why i am forced to use the -nolapic boot option to get my kernel to load (duel core 64 but computer, running on Asus Crosshair Motherboard)
[16:41] <ForgeAus> but its not installed
[16:41] <Daisuke_Ido> ForgeAus: same issue here
[16:42] <Daisuke_Ido> but that got it to quit trying to install it
[16:43] <DareDevil_>  can anyone recomend an ircd. i want the most secure and the most stable and with most veriety options and control
[16:43] <ForgeAus> um tried it and complained that it isn't installed already
[16:44] <hydrogen> DareDevil_: you can't have all of those things
[16:44] <ForgeAus> hehe
[16:44] <lg188> ...
[16:44] <lg188> back
[16:44] <snarkster> so it appears that it is impossible to install amarok after you have installed the kde4.0 live cd
[16:44] <lg188> btk
[16:44] <DareDevil_> well close to them?
[16:45] <_Shade_> hi there
[16:46] <lg188> _Shade_: hello
[16:46] <_Shade_> how to get support for mp3 playback etc when using 64 bit distro?
[16:46] <Alex135> _Shade_: install ubuntu restricted extras
[16:47] <ForgeAus> ahh fixed it
[16:47] <Alex135> _Shade_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:47] <ForgeAus> all I had to do was dpkg -r the stuff that was complaining depended on it
[16:47] <_Shade_> Alex135: i did - it came to nothing
[16:47] <Alex135> hmmm....
[16:47] <lg188> somebody .js knowledge please private chat (google gadget scripting)
[16:48] <ForgeAus> (I didn' trealize the package names were different
[16:48] <Alex135> _Shade_: try installing the mediubuntu repos... let me get the link
[16:48] <_Redondos_> hi
[16:48] <ForgeAus> yay flash for my konqi
[16:48] <_Shade_> Alex135: amarok still says that there's no mp3 support and asks if i'd like to install it... then it says it's installed and still no mp3 support :)
[16:49] <_Redondos_> When I try to put the "3D planet viewer" on my KDE 4 desktop it says: "could not load widget, 3d shaders not supported"
[16:49] <Alex135> _Shade_: see here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[16:49] <Alex135> _Shade_: that will tell you how to install the mediubuntu repos and will enable all kinds of fun stuff
[16:50] <Alex135> _Shade_: i am running ubuntu with KDE installed
[16:50] <lg188> how do you let a program know in a place where text should be that you mean a variable  in .js
[16:50] <Alex135> so esentially its Kubuntu, but it should all work the same
[16:51] <_Redondos_> When I try to put the "3D planet viewer" on my KDE 4 desktop it says: "could not load widget, 3d shaders not supported". How can I fix it?
[16:51] <snarkster> _Redondos_: your video driver isnt right
[16:51] <_Shade_> Alex135: the point is that it's hardy :(
[16:51] <Alex135> _Shade_ you are running hardy?
[16:52] <snarkster> later guys
[16:52] <_Shade_> Alex135: yes
[16:53] <Alex135> _Shade_: i dont know much about hardy
[16:53] <_Redondos_> When I try to put the "3D planet viewer" on my KDE 4 desktop it says: "could not load widget, 3d shaders not supported". How can I fix it?
[16:54] <hydrogen> !patiences | _Redondos_
[16:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patiences - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:54] <hydrogen> !patience | _Redondos_
[16:54] <ubotu> _Redondos_: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[16:54] <_Shade_> Alex135: how about the nvidia restricted drivers? can i still use them while on 64 bit box?
[16:54] <Alex135> _Shade_: you should be able to do that
[16:56] <_Shade_> Alex135: i persume it run in 32 bit mode since there's no 64 bit version (yet)
[16:56] <Alex135> _shade_: i am runnig 64bit but i have nvidia drivers working
[16:57] <Alex135> _Shade_: i installed nvidia-glx-new
[16:57] <ForgeAus> now its mscorefonts
[16:57] <ForgeAus> they take ages to install lol
[16:58] <misticwarrior> !pastebin
[16:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[16:58] <Alex135> i g2g, almost time for me to goto studdy hall
[16:58] <Alex135> bye
[17:03] <UnDa> hi
[17:03] <UnDa> any1 there?
[17:03] <SlimeyPete> yes
[17:03] <UnDa> can u help me here >.>
[17:04] <UnDa> i open configure n i get error with
[17:04] <UnDa> libpython2.5.so
[17:05] <SlimeyPete> what error?
[17:05] <UnDa> it says library files for libpython2.5.so not found in path
[17:05] <Obituary> hi you all
[17:05] <UnDa> its a clean version i just installed yesterday n updated :S
[17:05] <UnDa> havnt done anything
[17:06] <UnDa> but its hardy beta 4 i think
[17:06] <Obituary> hi whare are you all fro
[17:06] <ibou> each time i launch kontakt, i have korganizers alarm deamon which is launched too. I don't want it and do not find any option to avoid that. Is there one ?
[17:07] <SlimeyPete> UnDa: that might be the problem. Try asking in #ubuntu+1.
[17:07] <UnDa> k lemme try
[17:07] <UnDa> ubuntu+1? doesnt matter if its kubuntu?
[17:08] <DareDevil_>  can anyone recomend an ircd. i want the most secure and the most stable and with most veriety options and control
[17:08] <SlimeyPete> UnDa: shouldn't matter, no. Ubuntu and Kubuntu are the same underneath.
[17:08] <James__> Hello All.. I am new to linux and I am running 7.10 and I think I "broke" my xorg.conf. All I get a login line and it will not load my desktop. I did look in my /ext/X11 directory and I have 5 different xorg.conf files each with a different number after it. What do I do?
[17:09] <SlimeyPete> James__: do a "less /var/log/Xorg.0.log" to see the error log
[17:10] <SlimeyPete> maybe that will give you a clue
[17:12] <James__> ok it tells me (WW) The directory "/use/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist. Entry deleted from font path.
[17:12] <James__> is that the cause?
[17:12] <SlimeyPete> probably not, no. Press '/' and type EE then enter. That'll search the file for 'EE' (which indicates a serious error)
[17:13] <SlimeyPete> uppercase EE, note (search is case-sensitive)
[17:15] <lg188> somebody .js knowledge ? (google gadget scripting)
[17:15] <James__> OK I have 3 lines 1st: (EE) Unable to find a valid framebuffer device, 2nd (EE) NV0: Failed to open framebuffer device, 3rd (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a suable configuration.
[17:15] <lg188> bye
[17:16] <James__> at least thats all I can see on the screen if there are other's it scrolled past what I am able to display
[17:16] <SlimeyPete> James__: right, sounds like it's trying to load the wrong driver or is looking for the card in the wrong place.
[17:17] <James__> k
[17:17] <ForgeAus> omg Lynx! now I do feel notsalgic! rofl
[17:18] <ForgeAus> hmmm dillo is pretty much the quickest browser I've ever seen out there!
[17:19] <ForgeAus> of course good luck trying to use Youtube with it rofl
[17:19] <_Shade_> anyone using hardy on a 64 bit box?
[17:20] <James__> So what do I do in order to fix this?
[17:20] <mkz> I'm running kubuntu gutsy and OOo 2.3.0. I'm finding that occasionally when I launch scalc the window opens up in a full screen with no decoration to permit me to resize it.  It's not the same full screen as provided by ctrl-shft-J, as the menu and toolbars are visible, it's just missing the windowframe and title bar.
[17:21] <mkz> has anyone else experienced any issues with OOo 2.3 and kubuntu (with or without Compiz)?
[17:28] <savetheWorld> hi guys- I have gotten used to using apt-get install xxx to install programs.  What do I do to use it to get sources?
[17:30] <mkz> if I'm not mistaken the source packages are usually appended with a -dev... so if you are using apt-get install xxx then you should see if there is an xxx-dev package and use apt-get for this as well...
[17:30] <mkz> someone correct me if I'm wrong
[17:30] <savetheWorld> thanks. I'll take a look
[17:32] <savetheWorld> mkz - well the sources I'm looking for are for bash.  But there is no -dev package for it.  I wonder if its part of the gnu-utils?
[17:32] <mkz> savetheWorld: I couldn't say. sorry.  You may have to find the source for bash on it's website and download it as a tar file.
[17:34] <DareDevil_> is unreal ircd secure and stable as hybrid?
[17:36] <savetheWorld> mkz: Le Gaspe'!
[17:37] <mkz> savetheWorld: qui?
[17:38] <savetheWorld> mkz:  Gasping in a french accent.. :-D
[17:39] <mkz> savetheWorld: that seems to be chic these days (saw it on a forum port just yesterday).  What's the gasp for?  You see the source or are daunted by the tast?
[17:39] <mkz> s/tast/task
[17:39] <savetheWorld> See Pepe' Le'Pue -- Warner bros cartoons
[17:40] <savetheWorld> mkz: you have to be an old geezer or a real cartoon afficianado to remember him
[17:40]  * mkz both old geezer and cartoon nut
[17:41] <MadTony> compared to? most other nin wn users are old geezers in that respect, all the kids care about is games..
[17:42] <mkz> I've just downloaded bash 3.2 from http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/bash/.  It's not so bad
[17:42] <savetheWorld> mkz: me too
[17:43] <mkz> mine builds right out of the tar
[17:43] <mkz> are you looking to do something particular?
[17:43] <mkz> btw - qui or ce qui is french for what... :)
[17:44] <mkz> though I suppose I should have written it as "Le What?"... :)
[17:46] <UnDa> lol
[17:46] <savetheWorld> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pep%C3%A9_Le_Pew
[17:47] <savetheWorld> mkz: I just wanted to read the sources.  I'm trying to decode why i cant reset the location of the history file on kubuntu as i have on others *NIXes in the past.
[17:47] <UnDa> hey u got any idea of how can i make kubuntu look like this? http://b2dbuntu.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/welcome.png
[17:48] <SSJ_GZ> UnDa: That's just a mockup.
[17:48] <SSJ_GZ> (of KDE4)
[17:49] <UnDa> brb ima retart
[17:52] <mkz> you might take a peak at cairo-dock if you want that taskbar now...
[17:55] <_Shade_> i have changed the sound server to alsa and i have no sound. How do i get the arts back? i have no such option in kcontrol
[17:59] <mkz> question: how do you save default settings for the "Advanced options of a task in the taskbar (and what is the taskbar called in linux?)?
[17:59] <mkz> I guess it's called the kde panel
[18:00] <mkz> so, when I right click on a process listed in kde panel and select the Advanced menu option I can choose such things as Always On Top and Full Screen.  I have a problem where some applications set these settings and I want to be sure they don't.  Any ideas?
[18:02] <mkz> it appears the menu I'm talking about is called the Operations menu
[18:03] <venik> can anyone help with SAMBA configuration?  I am trying to share a printer and a folder with a WINDOWS XP machine
[18:07] <vedavox> cam someone verify something for me before I sub a bug report?
[18:08] <vedavox> is amarok 1.4.8 failing to submit to last.fm, tried 2 PC's both saying 'QObject::connect: Incompatible sender/receiver arguments' in the terminal
[18:09] <UnDa> hey
[18:09] <UnDa> got some trubles again >.>
[18:09] <UnDa> with screen configuration editor
[18:09] <UnDa> when i open it shows a blank error
[18:10] <UnDa> it says nothin
[18:10] <_Shade_> ey how do i use the strigi thingy? it doesn't find anything :P
[18:11] <vedavox> _Shade_: you have to let it compile a database first, personally I just use kfind
[18:12] <UnDa> n it does search lol just oppened it
[18:14] <vijay_> hi
[18:17] <vijay_> after some time of connection, speed become slower , any help?
[18:19] <vedavox> vijay_: anything taking up process time?
[18:19] <vedavox> vijay_: use ctrl + esc to bring up the process table
[18:20] <simion314> hi, i do not have a floppy drive and i need an windows xp boot floppy disk, i found on the web an .exe file and a .zip file but not a .img file, i need a .img file
[18:21] <hansjd> anyone know a good C++ IDE for kubuntu?
[18:23] <gerhardkde4> hansjd: kdevelop rocks
[18:23] <hansjd> gerhardkde4: thnx
[18:24]  * DareDevil_ asks last question - where do you think InspIRCd stands. is it as close to security and stability as hybrid has ?
[18:30] <simion314> hi, i do not have a floppy drive and i need an windows xp boot floppy disk, i found on the web an .exe file and a .zip file but not a .img file, i need a .img file
[18:31] <teo-> where can i find the packages i have downloaded using apt-get ?????
[18:32] <stdin> teo-: why not just let apt-get download them?
[18:32] <emilsedgh> teo-: /var/cache/apt/archives
[18:33] <teo-> thnx
[18:33] <teo-> bb
[18:34] <emilsedgh> howdy stdin?
[18:34] <stdin> was that a question? ;)
[18:36] <DareDevil_> the comparison shows irc inspircd has all the options and supports. i dont know is it stable and secure as hybrid is and will it give me more control or give limitations...
[18:45] <Xbehave_> i want to make a director that users can write to but they cant delete the whole dir, what permisions do i set? i tried chown root.users then chmod 775
[18:48] <ddelony> !workspacwe
[18:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about workspacwe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:48] <ddelony> !workspaces
[18:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about workspaces - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:48] <ddelony> !workspace
[18:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about workspace - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:48] <Pici> !msgthebot
[18:48] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[18:48] <ddelony> My compiz cube is just a rectangle.
[18:49] <draik> What is a good video capture card that I can use with Kubuntu?
[18:50] <ddelony> !compiz
[18:50] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[18:55] <trond_> hello
[18:56] <puffandstuff> hello
[18:56] <ddelony> I'm tyring to add workspaces to my desktop, but I can't seem to find the setting.
[18:56] <trond_> my question is: is it possible to get write access to windows partitions/disks when running kubuntu? i have them all mounted..'
[18:57] <puffandstuff> Every kde application i run under ubuntu is so laggy (freezes + refresh latency etc) i can't run kdevelop or even kdiff for exemple, please help :"(
[18:59] <psi_> puffandstuff: i had the same problem
[18:59] <puffandstuff> psi_, you solved it ?
[18:59] <stdin> ddelony: system settings -> Desktop -> Multiple Desktops
[19:00] <psi_> yes but not in a good way puffandstuff have you been messing with compiz-fusion?
[19:00] <stdin> trond_: yes, with ntfs-3g
[19:00] <stdin> !ntfs-3g | trond_
[19:00] <ubotu> trond_: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[19:01] <puffandstuff> psi_, messing ? well when i activate fusion it works correctly but i desactivate it
[19:02] <psi_> puffandstuff: i think it was compiz-fusion that cause the problem the only way i fixed it was to reinstall kubuntu from scratch
[19:03] <psi_> since doing that haven't touched compiz again and it is sweet as a nut
[19:03] <puffandstuff> psi_ omg, well i've better to review my configuration
[19:03] <psi_> puffandstuff: i tried that but i couldn't solve it
[19:04] <psi_> i had nothing on here to loose
[19:04] <puffandstuff> psi_, i've a lot of work on this station so i cant do this now
[19:05] <psi_> fair enough
[19:15] <alex__> Привет!
[19:15] <stdin> !ru
[19:15] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[19:16] <stdin> some people are so impatient
[19:20] <klu4ik> hi
[19:23] <klu4ik> who from Russia?
[19:25] <_Shade_> !nvidia
[19:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[19:31] <Goop2> I keep getting errors where programs can't connect to JACK
[19:32] <ddelon1> I decided to go back to regular Ubuntu, but the Kubuntu boot screen is still there. I already changed back to GDM.
[19:32] <venik> still looking for help with SAMBA.  When I try to add shares to it (folder or printers), the WINDOWS machine on the local network fails to see them
[19:32] <venik> I am running Kubuntu 7.10
[19:36] <jcgkffycs> is hardy going to have kde 4 in it?
[19:48] <unagi> how do i use my webcam with msn or aim in kubuntu, i know it works because tvtime gives me video from it?
[19:50] <JoshOvki_> try  aMsn
[19:52] <unagi>  ty
[19:54] <fouafond> salut tout le mnde!
[19:55] <fouafond> ya qqun?
[19:55] <BluesKaj> !fr | fouafond
[19:55] <ubotu> fouafond: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[19:55] <fouafond> qqun peu m'aider je suis nouveau sous linux
[19:56] <fouafond> ???
[19:57] <genii> fouafond: Anglais ici
[20:13] <liz_> Hey all. Anyone know how to get the Guest account to access the internet?
[20:15] <trappist> the internet has a guest account?!
[20:16] <liz_> no Guest log in with kubuntu
[20:17] <capricorn_tm> hi there :)
[20:17] <Limbeaux> newbie question.  i have debian etch w/ kde3 installed.  is there a way to upgrade to kubuntu or do i have to start over?
[20:17] <capricorn_tm> Anyone has Kde4 installed here?
[20:18] <capricorn_tm> @limbeaux, I think the two are not compatible mate. You'll have to reinstall over
[20:18] <emilsedgh> !kde4 | capricorn_tm
[20:18] <ubotu> capricorn_tm: KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[20:19] <capricorn_tm> okay thanks :)
[20:24] <liz_> when I log in as a Guest on kubuntu I can't access the internet... anyone know why?
[20:25] <genii> dialup?
[20:27] <liz_> no dsl, connecting wirelessly
[20:29] <liz_> anyone?
[20:30] <Tm_T> !wifi
[20:30] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[20:30] <Tm_T> liz_: does those help?
[20:33] <liz_> Tm_T: checking it out now, thx
[20:35] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[20:36] <MilhousePunkRock> I am looking for a wysiwyg xml editor for KDE... Any ideas?
[20:37] <Tm_T> MilhousePunkRock: what kind of xml? as in, xml can be a lot of things
[20:37] <martijnvanvliet> MilhousePunkRock: try kompozer
[20:38] <MilhousePunkRock> Tm_T: Well, mainly I just want to change a amarokfs theme to fit my needs
[20:38] <MilhousePunkRock> and I am not willing to actually learn xml for that
[20:38] <MilhousePunkRock> martijnvanvliet: Thanks, I will look into it
[20:38] <martijnvanvliet> MilhousePunkRock: it will do html, dunno if it will do xml
[20:39] <martijnvanvliet> MilhousePunkRock: otherwise there is quanta, but that is not xml
[20:39] <Tm_T> MilhousePunkRock: heh, then "any browser + text editor" should be fine, though, I do it testing with amarok directly
[20:39] <martijnvanvliet> i mean not wysiwyg
[20:40] <MilhousePunkRock> what apt-cache show kompozer tells me seems to be exactly what i am looking for
[20:40] <MilhousePunkRock> Tm_T: You missed the WYSIWYG part ;)
[20:41] <Tm_T> MilhousePunkRock: no I didn't but there's no better way to see what you get ;-P
[20:41] <Holden> hello, I guess this is a common problem but I can't get around it. I'm using Ubuntu and installed KDE. I have a USB external drive which GNOME automatically mounts with no problem. However in KDE it won't mount until I actually try to access it with dolphin. Also I had to uncheck "mount as user" to be able to mount it. I want it to mount automaically at startup, any ideas?
[20:41] <Tm_T> !automount
[20:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:41] <Tm_T> hmmmm
[20:41] <Tm_T> !mount
[20:41] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[20:42] <Tm_T> bah
[20:42] <MilhousePunkRock> bah, kompozer is gtk
[20:42] <martijnvanvliet> lol
[20:43] <matahari> hi
[20:43] <matahari> is there an extra channel for hardy-stuff?
[20:44] <MilhousePunkRock> matahari: #ubuntu+1
[20:44] <martijnvanvliet> matahari: yes there is: #ubuntu+1
[20:44] <matahari> thanks
[20:44] <MilhousePunkRock> hmm
[20:45] <MilhousePunkRock> kompozer does not open the amarokfs xml file
[20:45] <martijnvanvliet> MilhousePunkRock:  i dunno, but xml is structure based anyways, not content
[20:50] <linux_> anybody that can help me with an installation question?
[20:57] <neopsyche> can someone help me compile and / or install
[20:57] <emilsedgh> !ask | neopsyche
[20:57] <ubotu> neopsyche: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[20:58] <neopsyche> can someone help me compile and/or install XDTV
[20:58] <neopsyche> please
[21:00] <Holden> is there a way to decrease the lag when I do the selection box with the mouse ?
[21:18] <savetheWorld> Holden: make sure all the animation and special effects are turned off?
[21:22] <Holden> savetheWorld:  they are
[21:22] <savetheWorld> oh. :-(
[21:34] <reaperdragon> what program can i use to burn a mp3 cd not the same as a audio cd
[21:35] <jpatrick> reaperdragon: k3b?
[21:35] <reaperdragon> yea
[21:35] <reaperdragon> but it wont burn mp3 cd
[21:35] <reaperdragon> i mean i dont fully understand
[21:36] <reaperdragon> a cd that has a list of mp3s on it for my car cd player to play
[21:36] <reaperdragon> any advice
[21:38] <jpatrick> !info libk3b2-mp3 | reaperdragon
[21:38] <ubotu> reaperdragon: libk3b2-mp3 (source: k3b): The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-0ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 43 kB, installed size 116 kB
[21:40] <MagicFab> Hello
[21:40] <MagicFab> I'd like to know what would be a good replacement or equivalent backup application for kdar - http://kdar.sourceforge.net/
[21:41] <MagicFab> Kdar was dropped after Edgy
[21:43] <jawee> MagicFab: I've never used KDar, but possibly Konserve?
[21:44] <jawee> MagicFab: If not, take a look at http://directory.fsf.org/category/bu/
[21:46] <MagicFab> jawee, hmm.... no updates since dapper, mailing list dead :(
[21:46] <neo22> So, uh, is there a way to run awn with kde 4 + hardy heron?
[21:46] <MagicFab> jawee, tx for the URL
[21:46] <jawee> MagicFab: I personally just use bash scripts :)
[21:47] <jawee> anyway gtg
[21:48] <MagicFab> jawee, "keep"  seems more like it
[21:48] <neo22> Also, what is the channel for heron?
[21:48] <MagicFab> -> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=keep&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
[21:52] <batis610> i can't access to my external hard disc, i have this message: an error occured while accessing 'MyBook', the system said:org.freedesktop.hal.device.permissiondeniedbypolicy: hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000.... i have gutsy kde4
[21:53] <Artimus> How can I tell where a package is installed from?  I'm trying to figure out if the package I have is from gutsy-proposed or not.
[21:56] <crazy6> why doesn't my sound work when I come back from Sleep ; did I do something to offend it?
[21:56] <ForgeAus> um what to do when your system locks up saying Not starting WINGs display manager (WDM); it is not the default display manager
[21:58] <Daisuke_Ido> crazy6: are you by any chance using a dellbuntu?
[21:58] <crazy6> Daisuke_Ido: nah, Lenovo
[21:58] <Daisuke_Ido> !mount | batis610
[21:58] <ubotu> batis610: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[21:58] <Daisuke_Ido> crazy6: same issue i'd imagine...  sometimes it just doesn't come back after sleep
[21:59] <Daisuke_Ido> i don't remember how to fix it :(
[21:59] <sammy-afk> anyone have ffmpeg installed and want to take 2 seconds to try to have it convert a shn file for me and confirm this crazy behavior? ffmpeg seems to continue on forever as if the shn file has no end, it's crazy.
[21:59] <crazy6> wah
[22:00] <crazy6> hrm I can't seem to restart the sound system via the KDE control panel
[22:00] <psi_> sammy-afk: sure why not
[22:00] <psi_> sammy-afk: what file u trying to convert
[22:01] <tinin> How could I know wich is my graphic card?
[22:02] <ForgeAus> um what to do when your system locks up on startup saying Not starting WINGs display manager (WDM); it is not the default display manager???
[22:02] <ForgeAus> pre-login
[22:02] <jpatrick> tinin: lspci | grep "VGA"
[22:02] <Artimus> Why won't apt download the latest flash plugin for me?  I have proposed enabled.  It's sticking with 9.0.48.  9.0.115 is listed, but apt will not download it.
[22:03] <Daisuke_Ido> Artimus: /topic
[22:03] <Daisuke_Ido> ForgeAus: you never even get to KDM>
[22:04] <Artimus> Daisuke_Ido: That's not answering why it won't install the latest version.
[22:04] <ForgeAus> thats right
[22:04] <ForgeAus> just text screen still
[22:04] <sammy-afk> oh no, did psi_ leave? that'll teach me to ignore joins/parts/quits :/
[22:04]  * sammy-afk checks whowas. rats!
[22:05] <sammy-afk> anyone else with ffmpeg and two seconds willing to dl this .shn file so I can confirm this crazy behavior and file a bug?
[22:05] <ForgeAus> line before it says * Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)
[22:05] <neopsyche> hi. how do i build from source?
[22:05] <jpatrick> !b-e > neopsyche (see pm from ubotu)
[22:05] <ForgeAus> no keys seem to do anything here
[22:06] <ForgeAus> i can use alt-f keys to get to different screens but they're all blank
[22:07] <ForgeAus> is there a way to get to a prompt?
[22:07] <virnik> hi there, can somebody help me out with suspend? when I suspend computer by classical command echo -n mem > /sys/power/state, my computer gone to sleep. if I woke it up, it will wake up, but then suspend again. I have to wake it again, to make it work. can somebody help me out?
[22:07] <virnik> ForgeAus: CTRL+ALT+F1
[22:08] <virnik> ForgeAus: and it is not prompt, it is shell
[22:08] <ForgeAus> virnik I havn't got that far yet
[22:08] <ForgeAus> its still in the f1 screen
[22:08] <ForgeAus> textmode
[22:08] <ForgeAus> no X yet
[22:08] <virnik> ForgeAus: ah so
[22:08] <sammy-afk> neopsyche: you want to build a project from source that doesn't already have a ubuntu or debian package? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[22:08] <virnik> ForgeAus: so, what is your problem?
[22:08] <ForgeAus> I can't use the computer
[22:09] <ForgeAus> its hung during login script
[22:09] <ForgeAus> no prompts of any kind no shell no nothing
[22:09] <virnik> ForgeAus: how?
[22:09] <ForgeAus> GGRRRR
[22:09] <virnik> ForgeAus: it is easy
[22:09] <neopsyche> sammy-afk: yes because the deb says dependency problem
[22:09] <ForgeAus> what is easy?
[22:09] <virnik> ForgeAus: just press ESC when booting GRUB
[22:09] <virnik> then press E on second line
[22:09] <ForgeAus> oh yeah um grub
[22:09] <virnik> edit it
[22:09] <sammy-afk> neopsyche: and you can't fill the dependency with an already existing package?
[22:09] <ForgeAus> wait lemme see if grub works here
[22:09] <virnik> and add single at the end
[22:10] <virnik> ForgeAus: it works, it is standard now
[22:10] <virnik> now, it will boot up to single user mode
[22:10] <virnik> u will have no networking, nothing, but u can easily start it up
[22:10] <virnik> now, just give system root pass, and u are in
[22:11] <virnik> it is much more easier
[22:11] <ForgeAus> um no grub
[22:11] <virnik> ForgeAus: r u using lilo?
[22:11] <ForgeAus> must b
[22:11] <ForgeAus> or something
[22:11] <virnik> ForgeAus: it is similiar
[22:11] <ForgeAus> (AndLinux)
[22:11] <virnik> what distro u got?
[22:11] <virnik> ah
[22:11] <virnik> lilo
[22:11] <virnik> it is almost the same
[22:12] <virnik> just look to google
[22:12] <virnik> can't remember from spin, which shortcuts lilo uses
[22:12] <ForgeAus> it goes 2 quick thru startup
[22:12] <ForgeAus> can't keep up
[22:12] <virnik> heh
[22:12] <ForgeAus> and no scrollbar to scroll back :(
[22:12] <virnik> why are u using such distro?
[22:12] <ForgeAus> I can type
[22:12] <virnik> ForgeAus: this is #kubuntu channel
[22:13] <virnik> no AndLinux chan
[22:13] <ForgeAus> hehe andlinux is kubuntu :)
[22:13] <virnik> so it is somewhat ....strange
[22:13] <ForgeAus> thats the distro
[22:13] <virnik> what?
[22:13] <ForgeAus> its just embedded in WindowsXP
[22:13] <virnik> never heard of it
[22:13] <ForgeAus> (ie using coLinux)
[22:13] <virnik> ah
[22:13] <ForgeAus> and Xming for Xserver
[22:13] <virnik> ok...
[22:13] <virnik> saionara
[22:13] <ForgeAus> lol
[22:13] <virnik> can't help u then...
[22:14] <ForgeAus> but even with kubuntu native I've had similar problems
[22:14] <virnik> no experiences with such thing...once its not pure linux...it can't enter my HDD
[22:14] <virnik> ForgeAus: which problems?
[22:14] <virnik> can u tell me again?
[22:14] <ForgeAus> when something fowls up during boot and you don't get a prompt (and/or KDM)
[22:14] <ForgeAus> what 2 do?
[22:14] <virnik> cos in native kubuntu or ubuntu, it is easy to fix such things
[22:14] <ForgeAus> for you maybe
[22:14] <virnik> ok
[22:14] <ForgeAus> I'm not that well versed in these things
[22:15] <virnik> in my case
[22:15] <virnik> i should swictch to single user mode
[22:15] <virnik> ctrl+alt+del
[22:15] <virnik> pass root password
[22:15] <virnik> then fire up eth device, atp-get install mc
[22:15] <ForgeAus> ctrl alt del restarts
[22:15] <virnik> run mc, and look to /var/log/messages or dmesg
[22:15] <virnik> ForgeAus: no
[22:15] <ForgeAus> I can't run mc without a prompt
[22:16] <virnik> ctrl+alt+del restarts only when computer is fully operating
[22:16] <virnik> otherwise, it will freeze at runleve 1
[22:16] <ForgeAus> grr its past the bootloader anyway
[22:16] <virnik> lol?
[22:16] <virnik> are u sure, that there is no GRUB?
[22:16] <ForgeAus> its mounted filesystems too I think
[22:16] <virnik> ubuntu distros are supplied by it by default
[22:16] <ForgeAus> not quite sure no grub but I don't get to go to grub
[22:17] <ForgeAus> yeah thats what I thought was weird too
[22:17] <virnik> ForgeAus: as I said, just press ESC after reset
[22:17] <virnik> press, press, press
[22:17] <virnik> it shall work
[22:17] <virnik> once u'll get GRUB menu
[22:17] <virnik> u can do more things
[22:18] <virnik> it have wait time 0, by default I think
[22:18] <ForgeAus> no esc doesn't do anything
[22:18] <virnik> hehe
[22:18] <ForgeAus> continually pressing it
[22:18] <virnik> are u sure u are sitting at front of computer, and no TV? :-)))
[22:18] <ForgeAus> (I sent a ctrl+alt+delete to the terminal)
[22:18] <ForgeAus> yes it is a PC
[22:18] <Daisuke_Ido> !attitude | virnik
[22:18] <ubotu> virnik: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[22:18] <Daisuke_Ido> !u | virnik
[22:18] <ubotu> virnik: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[22:19] <ForgeAus> I'm in windows still the console is in a shell (emulated under XP)
[22:19] <ForgeAus> I need to get it to boot tho
[22:19] <virnik> Daisuke_Ido: what is problem with my lang?
[22:19] <hydrogen> y do ppl care about the way things r ritten?
[22:19] <virnik> hydrogen: i dunno why...strange,isn't it?
[22:20] <virnik> hydrogen: while I use shortcuts, it makes my typing speed more efficient...so y should I care?
[22:20] <ForgeAus> virnik like I said earlier its mounted filesystems and halfway thru running a script
[22:20] <virnik> ForgeAus: it is really strange. u cant go to the GRUB, nor get single user mode...
[22:21] <ForgeAus> what is single user mode?
[22:21] <Chris_Swift> Hello all, I have recently installed Kubuntu and right now I am using GNOME, I want for firefox to be my default browser, but whenever I click a link from Konversation, it asks me which program to open the link with, can anyone help out?
[22:21] <virnik> ForgeAus: it is special run level
[22:21] <ForgeAus> virnik I don't think it boots via grub
[22:21] <nosrednaekim> ForgeAus: "recovery"
[22:21] <virnik> ForgeAus: once u get to it, u will see. no network by default
[22:21] <ForgeAus> ahh recovery, no I don't et that option
[22:21] <neo22> Uh.
[22:21] <virnik> no root pass need
[22:21] <neo22> Adept froze on me.
[22:21] <ForgeAus> seems to start after that
[22:21] <neo22> And I had to kill it.
[22:21] <nosrednaekim> Chris_Swift: can't you say "set app as default"?
[22:21] <neo22> But I can't use the repos now.
[22:21] <ForgeAus> (or with something else instead)
[22:21] <virnik> and u have full right to fix yo' system
[22:21] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix
[22:21] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[22:21] <neo22> Could not get lock var/lib/dpkg/lock yada yada yada
[22:21] <neo22> Thanks
[22:22] <ForgeAus> if it were native I could just boot into live CD :)
[22:22] <Chris_Swift> nosrednaekim: Is that a new function, I had to install version 6.06
[22:22] <virnik> ForgeAus: true
[22:22] <memoriesdies> hi i want to ask how to make arabic subtitles display for movies it appears foregin simpoles and i cannt display arabic id3 but any arabic files i can read them good
[22:22] <ForgeAus> anyway this is gutsy not feisty like my CD is
[22:22] <virnik> liveCD is more efficient, sometime
[22:22] <ForgeAus> virnik any other ideas?
[22:22] <nosrednaekim> Chris_Swift: no... it should be an option in the dialog that pops up.
[22:22] <virnik> u can use easily chroot to yo' disk, and make all administrative thingies
[22:22] <nosrednaekim> Chris_Swift: can you tell if its a GOME dialog or a KDE dialog?
[22:23] <virnik> ForgeAus: out of mind...sorry...but if u find out, just lemme know...it is really interesting
[22:23] <hydrogen> teh easy way to tell
[22:23] <ForgeAus> virnik any way I can get to some kinda prompt (or bypass the error)?
[22:23] <hydrogen> does it have more than one button on the bottom
[22:23] <Chris_Swift> nosrednaekim: I have no idea, how can I tell?
[22:23] <virnik> can somebody help me out with suspend? when I suspend computer by classical command echo -n mem > /sys/power/state, my computer gone to sleep. if I woke it up, it will wake up, but then suspend again. I have to wake it again, to make it work. can somebody help me out?
[22:23] <virnik> ForgeAus: that was how to bypass it, as I said u
[22:24] <virnik> can u tell me on which service it frozen?
[22:24] <nosrednaekim> Chris_Swift: well, the widget style should look different
[22:24] <ForgeAus> I Set KDM to be the default but its trying to load WDM instead
[22:24] <Chris_Swift> nosrednaekim: Do you have an example screenshot?
[22:24] <virnik> ForgeAus: i remember that some years ago, this was caused by NTP daemon, or sendmail...but it was RedHat problems with early Fedora 1
[22:24] <nosrednaekim> virnik: use kpowermanager
[22:24] <virnik> nosrednaekim: NO
[22:24] <virnik> nosrednaekim: to be clear
[22:24] <virnik> nosrednaekim: it is unusable
[22:25] <virnik> nosrednaekim: cos I am using NVIDIA
[22:25] <nosrednaekim> Chris_Swift: unfortunately, no since I ham using KDE4 and it would look totally different
[22:25] <ForgeAus> the actual error message is Not starting WINGs display manager (wdm); it is not the default display manager
[22:25] <virnik> nosrednaekim: and u know what....NVIDIA drivers got serious problems with bypasing VBE states.
[22:25] <Chris_Swift> nosrednaekim: I will upload an SS to imageshack
[22:25] <nosrednaekim> ForgeAus: an you do a ctrl+alt+f2?
[22:25] <virnik> even with debug and some hours spend on it, I make it usable only halfway
[22:25] <nosrednaekim> Chris_Swift: ok
[22:25] <ForgeAus> yes nos
[22:25] <virnik> sometime it frozen, sometime not
[22:25] <ForgeAus> but no prompt there
[22:25] <virnik> but now, I have made and written my own scripts to /etc/acpi
[22:26] <virnik> its working really nice
[22:26] <virnik> only ugly thing is, that I must wake it up twice, after suspend
[22:26] <virnik> cos it will wake up, and then sleep again
[22:26] <memoriesdies>  hi i want to ask how to make arabic subtitles display for movies it appears foregin simpoles and i cannt display arabic id3 but any arabic files i can read them good
[22:26] <virnik> ok, another wakeup, and it is ok
[22:26] <nosrednaekim> ForgeAus: ok, what you need to do is chroot in from a liveCD and change the default display manager back to KDM
[22:26] <nosrednaekim> virnik: probably someting wrong with your script
[22:27] <virnik> memoriesdies: just choose your arabic font, and tell mplayer, what is it's encoding
[22:27] <ForgeAus> hehe nos, that would be ok it would work, but I'm booting from within WinXP (I think this Kubuntu uses lilo instead of grub too)
[22:27] <virnik> and tell it what encoding r u using in that subtitle file
[22:27] <ForgeAus> (its AndLinux)
[22:27] <Chris_Swift> nosrednaekim: http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1268/screenshot1qc1.png
[22:27] <virnik> nosrednaekim: I dont think so
[22:27] <Chris_Swift> nosrednaekim: There ya go
[22:27] <nosrednaekim> Chris_Swift: gracias
[22:28] <memoriesdies> i did that with kafien and vlc and didnt appear correct
[22:28] <nosrednaekim> ForgeAus: eh?
[22:28] <virnik> nosrednaekim: just look here: http://www.abclinuxu.cz/forum/show/164477
[22:28] <virnik> there is that script written
[22:28] <Chris_Swift> nosrednaekim: Oh, I fip,orgot something very omportant
[22:28] <ForgeAus> hehe check it out (I know its kubuntu-based because it tells me)
[22:28] <virnik> what can be wrong with it?
[22:28] <virnik> it works nice
[22:28] <Chris_Swift> nosrednaekim: Sorry wrong screenshot
[22:28] <virnik> but once I make my computer sleep, I have to wake it up twice
[22:29] <nosrednaekim> ForgeAus: kubuntu based is not kubuntu......
[22:29] <ForgeAus> yeah nos thats right
[22:29] <hydrogen> ouhh
[22:29] <hydrogen> wut?
[22:29] <hydrogen> kubuntu is based on kubuntu
[22:29] <hydrogen> oh
[22:29] <ForgeAus> but same thing would be if I were using kubuntu itself, there has to be a way to do something during a failed boot script
[22:29] <hydrogen> I misread that
[22:29] <hydrogen> I thought you said kubuntu is not based on kubuntu
[22:29] <hydrogen> you didn't
[22:29] <Daisuke_Ido> you know how when there's a language barrier, the person that has a different native or well-spoken language can come across sounding like a...  well, like an ignorant tool?
[22:29] <ForgeAus> hehe hydrogen its not kubuntu based on kubuntu
[22:30] <Daisuke_Ido> or possibly an arrogant tool
[22:30] <genii> kubuntu is not based on kubuntu
[22:30] <Daisuke_Ido> depending
[22:30] <Chris_Swift> nosrednaekim: http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/7356/screenshot2fb9.png
[22:30] <Chris_Swift> nosrednaekim: The proper image
[22:30] <nosrednaekim> ForgeAus: which means you are probably in the wrong channel..... if it can't be fixed with a liveCD, I have no idea.
[22:30] <ForgeAus> its AndLinux which is a embedded kubuntu-based distro in Windows
[22:30]  * genii reels and sips more coffee
[22:30] <virnik> Daisuke_Ido: it is not true
[22:30] <ForgeAus> (using colinux which basically emulates the kernel)
[22:30] <Daisuke_Ido> virnik: what isn't true?
[22:30] <nosrednaekim> ForgeAus: sorry, can't help you with that!
[22:31] <virnik> Daisuke_Ido: I am not american, nor british, nor any other english-native-speaking person...but still, I know slang...
[22:31] <ForgeAus> grrr
[22:31] <virnik> so where is problem? I am using it everywhere
[22:31] <Daisuke_Ido> you're so vain...  you probably think that quote was about you
[22:31] <gorongoro> any software for kubuntu,  canfrog¿?¿?
[22:32]  * Daisuke_Ido apologizes to carly simon
[22:32] <virnik> Daisuke_Ido: and I do not think that I am arogant or ignorant... when u use something for a long time, u'r just used to it, that's all
[22:32] <virnik> Daisuke_Ido: sure I think that, cos u said similiar thing before...
[22:32] <virnik> directly
[22:32] <nosrednaekim> Chris_Swift: interesting! it must be a new feature :)
[22:32] <Daisuke_Ido> it was, of course, and i didn't say you thought you were ignorant or arrogant
[22:32] <nosrednaekim> !ot | virnik Daisuke_Ido
[22:32] <ubotu> virnik Daisuke_Ido: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[22:32] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm saying you're coming off sounding like an arrogant tool
[22:33] <Chris_Swift> nosrednaekim: Ok well I am updating Ubuntu right now so we will have to wait and see
[22:33] <Daisuke_Ido> who would be better suited for the attitudes in #debian
[22:33] <virnik> nosrednaekim: nice, but nobody cares about my Q
[22:33] <virnik> and I cant move without help now
[22:33] <Daisuke_Ido> by the way, suspend works fine with nvidia
[22:34] <virnik> Daisuke_Ido: lol, just read google
[22:34] <virnik> it have so many problems
[22:34] <Daisuke_Ido> well, let's see...
[22:34] <virnik> clean install of gutsy 64b
[22:34] <virnik> and do not work
[22:34] <Daisuke_Ido> see, you never said 64 bit
[22:34] <virnik> ok, so I have made some modifications
[22:34] <virnik> no way
[22:34] <Daisuke_Ido> and if you made modifications, you're on your own
[22:34] <virnik> problem is, that it IS working
[22:34] <Daisuke_Ido> have fun, good luck
[22:34] <hydrogen> emm
[22:34] <virnik> ah....do not say that, it sounds really stupid.
[22:35] <hydrogen> everyone makes modifications to their system
[22:35] <virnik> ok, recapitulation, ok?
[22:35] <Daisuke_Ido> hydrogen: not everyone makes modifications to their suspend and resume scripts
[22:35] <virnik> 1] first for all, its 64b distro
[22:35] <virnik> 2] second, clean install, and it do not work
[22:35] <hydrogen> nope, instead I have to rewrite the kdm init script because the default one is stoopid
[22:35] <virnik> 3] with nvidia-glx-new, it do not work
[22:36] <nosrednaekim> virnik: stop stop.... we can't help you with your acpi script.... ask the person who made the acpi script, ok?
[22:36] <virnik> problem of points made above is, that it actually suspend, but wakes up to blank black screen
[22:36] <virnik> nosrednaekim: I am not asking about MY SCRIP!
[22:36] <virnik> helll
[22:36] <Daisuke_Ido> !ohmy
[22:36] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[22:36] <virnik> i am asking about suspend progress from KDE and kubuntu native scripts invented to it
[22:37] <virnik> ok
[22:37] <sam64_> trying to burn a copy of UbuntuStudio, but K3b can't see my DVD
[22:37] <virnik> so
[22:37] <virnik> I have found out, how to make it work
[22:37] <nosrednaekim> virnik: well, that would be knetworkmanager, or guidance-power-manager then.
[22:37] <virnik> nosrednaekim: both are uninstalled
[22:37] <virnik> nosrednaekim: I am using kpowersave
[22:38] <virnik> but kpowersave have this features off
[22:38] <nosrednaekim> virnik: well, thats what we support here, not 3rd party acpi scripts.
[22:38] <virnik> so my question is, what can interfere?
[22:38] <Daisuke_Ido> if i say what i would like, i would probably not be allowed in here anymore, so i'm going to go get a drink, pop some popcorn, and just watch
[22:38] <virnik> nosrednaekim: damn... I want just one info
[22:38] <nosrednaekim> virnik: interfere with WHAT?
[22:38] <virnik> can u give me time to explain myself?
[22:39] <nosrednaekim> do so in one complete message
[22:39] <virnik> nosrednaekim: its hard when u bother only with "pure scripts" and Daisuke_Ido "it's not pure, u r on your own"
[22:40] <nosrednaekim> virnik: just state your problem in one message if you want help.
[22:40] <virnik> without explaining
[22:40] <virnik> nosrednaekim: I have posted it in one long message twice
[22:40] <Daisuke_Ido> no, this is an official support channel, if you would like to use a customised script, it's recommended that you know what you're doing, because we dont.
[22:40] <virnik> no reaction
[22:40] <virnik> Daisuke_Ido: I am willing to use pure scripts, but they do not work
[22:40] <virnik> that is the problem
[22:41] <virnik> with nvidia driver from repo, it freezes on black screen. I can switch to X sometime, but mostly, it freezes.
[22:42] <virnik> kernel is alive, like network and sound too. only graphic card can't make it up. and that's your "pure" scripts
[22:42] <Daisuke_Ido> so instead of trying to fix it, you go to an unsupported solution, then come here when you need help with that.
[22:42] <jpatrick> virnik: what does " pmi capabilities" give?
[22:42] <hola> someone knows how to share pppoe between host and lient?
[22:42] <virnik> Daisuke_Ido: are u serious? i have spend more then eight hours on it
[22:42] <virnik> jpatrick: same
[22:42] <virnik> no change
[22:43] <jpatrick> to what?
[22:43] <Daisuke_Ido> ah, and how was i supposed to know that?  i'm not a mind reader.
[22:43] <virnik> problem is somewhere about warming up the card
[22:43] <virnik> event with VBE restore false, it still cant make it through
[22:43] <hydrogen> Daisuke_Ido: stop trolling, if you can't be helpful its better to be quiet
[22:43] <virnik> Daisuke_Ido: true, u r not. but while I was explaining what i just tried, u blamed me for customizations
[22:44] <virnik> hydrogen: thx a lot
[22:44] <neo22> Damn. I can't get the ati drivers to stick. I go through this every time I upgrade.
[22:44] <Daisuke_Ido> okay...  what video card
[22:44] <neo22> Ati 1900xtx.
[22:44] <neo22> It's saying mesa.
[22:44] <Daisuke_Ido> not you :)
[22:45] <Daisuke_Ido> i know nada about ati, sorry
[22:45] <virnik> Daisuke_Ido: Nvidia 7600 GO
[22:45] <neo22> oh :(
[22:45] <nosrednaekim> neo22: which drivers?
[22:45] <virnik> notebook version, made by ASUS
[22:45] <virnik> latest from oficial
[22:45] <virnik> but latest from repo are the same
[22:45] <virnik> but slower
[22:45] <neo22> fglrx
[22:46] <virnik> Daisuke_Ido: its ASUS F3T AP008, if it helps
[22:46] <nosrednaekim> neo22: from the ati website, or from the restricted-manager
[22:46] <neo22> restricted-manager
[22:47] <virnik> Daisuke_Ido: strange, that with other distros, this feature works fine. but I am with kubuntu too long, more then 4 years, so I do not want to switch distro
[22:47] <neo22> I added the bit about composite disable to my xorg.conf
[22:47] <nosrednaekim> neo22: ah.... do you have composite disabled in the xorg?
[22:48] <nosrednaekim> ah..ok
[22:48] <nosrednaekim> did you restart X after that?
[22:48] <neo22> I think so.
[22:48] <neo22> I'll restart it to be sure.
[22:48] <virnik> so, after 8 hours of work on this, trying almost everything, I just switched to custom scripts. and it works nice. except that annoying wakeup, where I have to wake it twice...because after first wakeup, computer normally wake, but goes to sleep again
[22:48] <hola> someone knows how to share pppoe between host and lient?
[22:48] <nosrednaekim> well, you do need to restart after installing the drivers
[22:49] <virnik> hola: just allow packet forwarding
[22:49] <bigdad1e> i need help making my ip visible. instead of the 127.0.0.1 im tryin gto run a source dedicated server and it wont work. can someone please help me?
[22:49] <hola> virnik: are you an expert?
[22:49] <virnik> hola: then on your host machine make NAT for your client
[22:49] <virnik> hola: kind of, if u know CZFree.Net
[22:49] <virnik> wireless broadband community of linux and unix networking specialists
[22:50] <Daisuke_Ido> with kubuntu for more tan 4 years?
[22:50] <hola> virnik: i tried in differetn way but the result is always that connection is not reacable formm host
[22:50] <Daisuke_Ido> interesting.
[22:50] <Daisuke_Ido> anyway
[22:50] <virnik> Daisuke_Ido: not exactly....I switched from Fedora 3
[22:50] <virnik> so...
[22:50] <nosrednaekim> bigdad1e: ifconfig should show you..
[22:50] <Daisuke_Ido> the nvidia-glx-new and nvidia driver on the site are the same
[22:50] <Daisuke_Ido> 9755
[22:51] <neo22> still mesa.
[22:51] <Daisuke_Ido> i can't see why that would be an issue though :\
[22:51] <virnik> Daisuke_Ido: yep...
[22:51] <virnik> Daisuke_Ido: true, it is strange...
[22:51] <virnik> so it is why I am yelling here...
[22:51] <virnik> cos google can't help me out
[22:51] <hola> virnik: have you 10 minuto for me in order to drive me on it
[22:52] <virnik> so I have made my own script, it is really easy...and working
[22:52] <virnik> hola: sure
[22:52] <virnik> hola: what is your problem exactly?
[22:52] <bigdad1e> when i put the command in to run the server its telling me ipunkown
[22:53] <hola> virnik: let me summarized and i told you that nobody else has been able to help me
[22:53] <virnik> hola: stop stop stop
[22:54] <virnik> hola: just look inside your query
[22:54] <hola> virnik: which query
[22:54] <bigdad1e> !srcds
[22:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about srcds - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:54] <virnik> hola: 10.23.202.85 is my case, but in your case, this is IP of your ppp0
[22:54] <bigdad1e> is there a irc chat for srcds?
[22:54] <bigdad1e> or steam
[22:55] <hola> virnik: let me summarized hoh i did
[22:55] <virnik> hola: so change it
[22:55] <virnik> hola: if your ppp0 is working and host can reach internet, use script I have posted y
[22:55] <virnik> u
[22:55] <virnik> it is working fine
[22:55] <virnik> just change IPs
[22:55] <FrauHansen> hm, when i change my static IP  via 'ifconfig eth0 xxx.xx.xxx.xxx' i can't surf afterwards because FF can't find the proxy. pinging LAN works. how come?
[22:56] <hola> sorry where i find the script
[22:56] <virnik> hola: 192.168.100.19 is IP of your client...so change it
[22:56] <virnik> hola: in your querry
[22:56] <hola> help me
[22:56] <virnik> hola: damn, u got it in your querry
[22:57] <hola> what do you mean with query
[22:57] <virnik> i will not past it here, because it will make room flooded
[22:57] <hola> i dont understand sorry
[22:57] <Daisuke_Ido> hola: private message
[22:57] <virnik> hm
[22:57] <Daisuke_Ido> and no, he doesn't
[22:57] <virnik> ok
[22:57] <nosrednaekim> FrauHansen: youneed to set up a DNS server
[22:57] <virnik> private messages are forbidden here
[22:57] <virnik> sight
[22:57] <virnik> ok
[22:57] <virnik> i will post it here
[22:57] <virnik> can I?
[22:57] <virnik> 20 lines
[22:57] <nosrednaekim> no!
[22:57] <Agent_bob> no
[22:57] <Daisuke_Ido> because you can't send queries unless you register your nick
[22:57] <nosrednaekim> !paste
[22:57] <Agent_bob> !pastebin
[22:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[22:57] <virnik> :-)))
[22:57] <Daisuke_Ido> !register | virnik
[22:58] <virnik> just joke
[22:58] <ubotu> virnik: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[22:58] <bigdad1e> !ip
[22:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ip - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:58] <FrauHansen> nosrednaekim: you mean with the same command?
[22:58] <virnik> hola: I will post it on the web
[22:58] <nosrednaekim> FrauHansen: no.. you have to add it to the /etc/resolv.conf
[22:58] <hola> virnik: ok
[22:59] <virnik> hola: look here
[22:59] <virnik> http://pastebin.ca/896763
[22:59] <virnik> I have made pastebin for 30 minutes
[22:59] <FrauHansen> nosrednaekim: but it's in there. im surfing, lets say with xxx.xx.xxx.123 and when i change to ...124 inet is unreachable
[23:00] <virnik> so, u can copy it
[23:00] <virnik> easy script
[23:00] <virnik> which actually works fine
[23:00] <nosrednaekim> FrauHansen: and you set the .123 address with ifconfig as well?
[23:01] <Agent_bob> in all truth. many times i have seen people paste to the channel 8 or 10 lines,  and then other users post 30+ lines reproving them and instructing them what to do in the feuture...      doesn't make sense when the channel is slow.   only when it's busy.
[23:01] <nosrednaekim> and running a red light is fine when there is no-one there as well ;)
[23:01] <FrauHansen> nope. thats in /etc/network/interfaces and was cinfigured in kde-system-config-thingy
[23:02] <nosrednaekim> FrauHansen: ah... so try setting it to 124 there...
[23:02] <Agent_bob> nosrednaekim fine as in harms nothing, or fine as in wont get you a ticket ?
[23:03] <nosrednaekim> Agent_bob: well, fine in as harms nothing..... but if there is no-one there, you're not going to get a ticket either ;)
[23:03] <Daisuke_Ido> unless there's a camera
[23:03] <Agent_bob> nosrednaekim never been mailed a ticket from an intersection camera eeh
[23:03] <FrauHansen> nosrednaekim: my goal is actually a script to quickly change IPs. so i have to change interfaces and do /etc/init.d/networking restart ?
[23:03] <hola> virnik: iptables v1.3.6: host/network `IP_OF_CLIENT' not found
[23:04] <hola> ptables v1.3.6: Bad IP address `IP_OF_PPP0'
[23:04] <virnik> hola: u must change it
[23:04] <virnik> hola: theese two are not variables
[23:05] <virnik> hola: just write there IP of your client
[23:05] <virnik> and IP of your ppp0 device
[23:05] <Agent_bob> FrauHansen you mean something like     ifconfig eth0 <new_ip>
[23:05] <FrauHansen> Agent_bob: yep, kind of
[23:06] <Agent_bob> or dhclient restart  ?
[23:06] <nosrednaekim> Agent_bob: nope....well,i've also never run a red :)
[23:06] <FrauHansen> Agent_bob: no, static IPs
[23:06] <virnik> Agent_bob: dhclient eth0
[23:07] <Agent_bob> virnik right.  was thinking the sysV interface.
[23:07] <virnik> Agent_bob: ah so...
[23:07] <Agent_bob> FrauHansen if static then ifconfig is probably your friend
[23:07] <hola> virnik: im sorry...it does not work
[23:09] <Agent_bob> FrauHansen why do you need to change static ip's ???     what are you cracking?  your neighbours wireless service ?
[23:09] <virnik> hola: it work
[23:09] <virnik> hola: this script is used by my sister now, cos she is using internet from my laptop
[23:09] <FrauHansen> Agent_bob: none of your business :D
[23:09] <yasahiro> tell me... does anybody know of any decent video editors for kubuntu?
[23:09] <nosrednaekim> virnik: because it works for you, doesn't mean it will work for someone else
[23:09] <Agent_bob> FrauHansen then the answers how to are none of your business.
[23:09] <virnik> nosrednaekim: stop
[23:09] <nosrednaekim> yasahiro: i've heard good things about cinellera
[23:10] <virnik> nosrednaekim: if he got ppp0 device
[23:10] <Agent_bob> !warez | FrauHansen
[23:10] <ubotu> FrauHansen: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[23:10] <hola> virnik: i belive that it works on your side
[23:10] <virnik> and he is able to connect to the internet
[23:10] <virnik> there is no reason why it should not work
[23:10] <virnik> hola: ok, once again
[23:10] <gaero> hi there
[23:10] <virnik> what is your LAN IP?
[23:10] <FrauHansen> Agent_bob: that wasn't necessary :(
[23:10] <virnik> and what is your LAN IP of your guest?
[23:11] <virnik> hola: what is your network device name, which is used for LAN?
[23:11] <Agent_bob> FrauHansen was required.    <FrauHansen> Agent_bob: none of your business :D
[23:11] <hola> virnik: im created a client with virtualbox. Do ou think that could be it the reason?
[23:11] <virnik> hola: sure it can
[23:11] <virnik> hola: virtual machine is handled other way
[23:11] <yasahiro> where can i get cinellera....
[23:11] <virnik> just edit your virtual box config, and make it bridge networks
[23:11] <nosrednaekim> !find cinellera
[23:11] <hola> virnik: can we tri togheter?
[23:11] <virnik> with your ppp0
[23:12] <ubotu> Package/file cinellera does not exist in gutsy
[23:12] <virnik> hola: nope. I am using vmware, not virtualbox
[23:12] <hola> virnik: i already created a bridge
[23:12] <hola> and a virtual interface
[23:13] <virnik> and can u ping from one to other?
[23:13] <virnik> can theese network devices see each other?
[23:13] <nosrednaekim> yasahiro: not sure.... google it
[23:13] <hola> yes
[23:13] <hola> of course
[23:14] <Daisuke_Ido> !info cinelerra
[23:14] <ubotu> Package cinelerra does not exist in gutsy
[23:15] <Agent_bob> !cinelerra
[23:15] <ubotu> Cinelerra is a video editor and compositor that cannot be included in Ubuntu for legal reasons. Install instructions can be found on http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu
[23:15] <Daisuke_Ido> ah ha!
[23:15] <Daisuke_Ido> there you are
[23:16] <hola> virnik: are you still there
[23:16] <virnik> hola: so...have u set your default route on your virtual machine?
[23:16] <virnik> can u ping internet IPs? it can be only problem of DNS resolution, which u haven't set properly
[23:16] <hola> virnik: i want to ask you it. What address i have to set as gateway on client?
[23:17] <virnik> hola: I am, but I am leaving for few minutes for bath and smoke
[23:17] <nosrednaekim> Agent_bob: spelling is key :)
[23:17] <virnik> hola: on client, set your host's IP
[23:17] <virnik> hola: this is how routing works
[23:17] <Agent_bob> nosrednaekim is that why i'm always locked out ???
[23:17] <virnik> your host is gateway here, for your guest system
[23:17] <nosrednaekim> Agent_bob: lol!
[23:18]  * virnik gonna smoke...uaaah, Davidoff, what a pleasure!
[23:19] <ignoramus> hey guys... got a seemingly easy one for ya... How do i format a usb flash drive to ntfs?
[23:19] <Agent_bob> use windows
[23:20] <Daisuke_Ido> unless it's larger than 8gb or so, there's not much point
[23:20] <Agent_bob> but i would sujest vfat
[23:20] <ignoramus> naw, it's small, but i got it for free.  I'd like to use it at work, hence the ntfs..
[23:20] <Daisuke_Ido> vfat would be a better choice
[23:20] <Agent_bob> but i would sujest vfat
[23:20] <Daisuke_Ido> ignoramus: if you use windows at work, use vfat
[23:21] <ignoramus> Daisuke_Ido: OK, whats the command? is it with "mkfs"?
[23:21] <XceII> Just put a new video card in, keeps saying, (loading local scripts), it has been sitting 30 mins, is there something wrong, or that i should do?
[23:21] <Agent_bob> ignoramus mkfs.vfat /dev/<devicenode>
[23:21] <ignoramus> agent_bob: thanks
[23:21] <nosrednaekim> XceII: does recovery mode boot correctly?
[23:22] <hola> virnik: tell me when you are available
[23:22] <bigdad1e> can someone please help me with srcds? having trouble and dont know what to do
[23:22] <XceII> right now im on ubuntu, the problem is in ubuntu, noone in ubuntu is answering, how do i get to recovery mode in ubuntu, or how do i fix this?
[23:22] <XceII> kubuntu
[23:22] <ignoramus> Agent_bob: when i try it, ubuntu complains its a mounted file system, but its not even seen when unmounted... hmmm...
[23:23] <Agent_bob> so umount it first
[23:23] <ignoramus> Agent_bob: nm, it worked this time... thanks again
[23:23] <nosrednaekim> XceII: recovery mode is a grub boot menu option
[23:23] <XceII> in ubuntu?, i never seen it
[23:24] <Agent_bob> sudo umount /dev/<devicenode> ;sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/<samenode>          <<< like so
[23:24] <Agent_bob> nosrednaekim that's   ffr
[23:24] <nosrednaekim> XceII: yup....
[23:24] <nosrednaekim> Agent_bob: what?
[23:25] <kaminix> nspluginviewer keeps crashing after the last update. :/
[23:25] <Agent_bob> sorry nosrednaekim not @ you
[23:25] <XceII> let me try again, thanks
[23:25] <bruce_> join #synce
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[23:25] <bigdad1e> how do i change my ip settings?
[23:25] <Tonren> My USB external drive isn't auto-mounting properly.  When I manually mount it, it works, but the auto-mount fails.
[23:25]  * Agent_bob hates when text scrolls just at exectly the WRONG moment...
[23:26] <virnik> hola: back
[23:26] <hola> virnik: help me
[23:26] <Tonren> It says, "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000"
[23:26] <Agent_bob> bigdad1e knetwork manager ?
[23:27] <bigdad1e> wont open for me
[23:27] <Agent_bob> bigdad1e static or dhcp ?
[23:27] <bigdad1e> dont really know
[23:27] <bigdad1e> new to all this
[23:28] <bigdad1e> trying to set up srcds and the ip is unkown so it wont work
[23:28] <Agent_bob> then what is about your ip that you are wanting to change ?
[23:28] <virnik> hola: glad to, but it seems hard to solve problem with such little info
[23:28] <hola> virnik: which info do you need
[23:28] <virnik> have u set default GW on your guest?
[23:29] <bigdad1e> Adent_bob: can you RDC with me?
[23:29] <bigdad1e> and show me how to get the ip to work?
[23:29] <hola> virnik: route add -net default gw 192.168.1.10 eth2
[23:30] <virnik> ok
[23:30] <virnik> so your GW have IP 192.168.1.10
[23:30] <bigdad1e> i want my ip to be seen.
[23:30] <virnik> nice
[23:30] <virnik> now
[23:30] <yao_ziyuan> i wanna illustrate what's my dream os:
[23:30] <hola> it is host ip
[23:30] <Agent_bob> bigdad1e what i'm saying in essense is this.  you probably don't need to mess with your ip if it's working and you don't know anything about it.   and if you are trying to setup srcds and it is complaining about an ip then work on srcds not on the ip.
[23:30] <bigdad1e> when i start my srcds it comes up ipunknown
[23:30] <yao_ziyuan> http://infowire.googlegroups.com/web/fedora8.png
[23:30] <virnik> what device is used to connect to LAN on your host?
[23:31] <yao_ziyuan> this is a fedora8-kde-livecd installed as a virtual machine
[23:31] <yao_ziyuan> two points:
[23:31] <yao_ziyuan> 1. it has kde 3.5.8
[23:31] <hola> virnik: i create a brdige br0 connected to eth0
[23:31] <virnik> hola: wait
[23:31] <virnik> hola: why bridge?
[23:31] <bigdad1e> ive looked all over and found nothing that helps me. i dont know what to do now
[23:31] <yao_ziyuan> 2. it has chinese input (the 3rd tray icon from right)
[23:31] <hola> virnik: and so i create a virtual interface vbox
[23:31] <virnik> ah
[23:31] <virnik> so again
[23:32] <virnik> no bridge please
[23:32] <virnik> destroy that device
[23:32] <Agent_bob> what is  srcds  anyway ?
[23:32] <virnik> u should have eth0 on host
[23:32] <virnik> and eth2 on guest
[23:32] <Daisuke_Ido> yao_ziyuan: it's not kubuntu, why are you bringing it up here?
[23:32] <bigdad1e> source dedicated server
[23:32] <virnik> eth0 on host shall have 192.168.1.10
[23:32] <bigdad1e> for steam/counter strike source
[23:32] <yao_ziyuan> Daisuke_Ido: because i want kubuntu to support chinese input like this one
[23:32] <virnik> eth2 on guest shall have something like 192.168.1.11
[23:33] <virnik> now u shall be able to ping from each to other
[23:33] <hydrogen> !skim | yao_ziyuan
[23:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about skim - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:33] <hola> virnik: whitout bridge the cleitn ip is very different
[23:33] <yao_ziyuan> some clues:
[23:33] <hydrogen> !scim | yao_ziyuan
[23:33] <ubotu> yao_ziyuan: Chinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM
[23:33] <yao_ziyuan> 1. skim should be abandoned
[23:33] <Agent_bob> bigdad1e well i'm going to go out on a limb and say that when you configure srcds propperly for your system it will stop complaining about unknown ips
[23:33] <virnik> hola: just change it
[23:33] <virnik> to be in the same subnet
[23:33] <yao_ziyuan> those distros who support chinese input perfectly (ubuntu, fedora8) don't use skim at all (even for kde)
[23:34] <Daisuke_Ido> scim
[23:34] <hola> virnik: ok i have to close this connection now becouse is it attached with the bridge
[23:34] <Agent_bob> try pointing it at localhost     good for testing
[23:34] <hola> virnik: may you wait a minuto
[23:34] <Daisuke_Ido> but...  what do they use?
[23:34] <bigdad1e> i did everything they way it was in the tutorial i did them on windows no problem but never on linux
[23:35] <Daisuke_Ido> yao_ziyuan: just for the record, scim is the default in ubuntu
[23:35] <yao_ziyuan> Daisuke_Ido: yes
[23:35] <Agent_bob> bigdad1e maybe google.com/linux   search for a howto setup srcds
[23:35] <yao_ziyuan> Daisuke_Ido: kubuntu should follow exactly the same steps that ubuntu installs chinese input functionality
[23:36] <yao_ziyuan> Daisuke_Ido: that way there will be a scim-gtk-frontend tray icon, even for kde
[23:36] <Daisuke_Ido> ...huh?
[23:36] <bigdad1e> been doing them for 26 hours now. having been to bed yet reading and trying new things so i came here
[23:36] <Daisuke_Ido> scim is a the common input method, ot
[23:36] <sam64_> I was trying to make a disk for UbuntuStudio, but K3b wont recognise my disk
[23:36] <Daisuke_Ido> as far as i know, it's usable just fine in kde
[23:37] <yao_ziyuan> Daisuke_Ido: with kubuntu's current way of installing scim, it doesn't work
[23:37] <yao_ziyuan> Daisuke_Ido: kubuntu's current approach is to use "skim" as a middleman
[23:37] <bigdad1e> ill do it all over again and see what it does.
[23:37] <Daisuke_Ido> ...okay?
[23:37] <yao_ziyuan> Daisuke_Ido: and skim doesn't do the job at all
[23:38] <Agent_bob> yao_ziyuan "kubuntu should follow exactly the same steps that ubuntu installs chinese input functionality" <<< wrong.  one is gnome the other is kde  they should not follow the same methoods because they are different environments.   i realize that kubuntu is broken and you should file a bug and offer to help with the fix if you have some special insight on that issue.  but trolling this channel day after day about that will
[23:38] <Agent_bob> and you don't want that
[23:38] <yao_ziyuan> Agent_bob: i already filed one
[23:39] <yao_ziyuan> Agent_bob: yes i should put my new findings there
[23:39] <hexch> hello, how do I change premissions on hd so user can have root access to it alwaus ?
[23:39] <Daisuke_Ido> yao_ziyuan: so you sit back and wait, or you get the source and fix skim yourself
[23:39] <hexch> always*
[23:39] <yao_ziyuan> Daisuke_Ido: my finding is that we should abandom skim and use the ubuntu/fedora way
[23:40] <Agent_bob> yao_ziyuan yes you should.  and you can update this channel but don't make a big deal out of something that most people can't do anything about anyway
[23:40] <Daisuke_Ido> what *is* the fedora way
[23:41] <Agent_bob> yao_ziyuan they neither want to hear you complain about skim nor me compalin about timezone configurations.  both are in need of fixing.   but these guys aren't the ones to do it.
[23:42] <Agent_bob> nor me complain about kdm writing in /root   which i have done in the past...  ;/
[23:45] <yao_ziyuan> i filed this before: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skim/+bug/181300
[23:45] <yao_ziyuan> and i have found how to solve it
[23:45] <yao_ziyuan> i will put the solution both here and on the report
[23:45] <xxBasYxx> How can I set up one keyborad shortcut when editing text for two actions: 1) select from kurzor to end of line 2) delete selection ... plz ?
[23:45] <hola2> virnik: are you there
[23:46] <Daisuke_Ido> yao_ziyuan: don't post it here
[23:46] <yao_ziyuan> ok
[23:46] <Daisuke_Ido> just put it in the bug report
[23:48] <yao_ziyuan> then some general comments:
[23:48] <yao_ziyuan> i think ubuntu/kubuntu's biggest competitor is fedora
[23:51] <sam64_> Linux isn't about competition
[23:51] <hola2> virnik: are you there
[23:53] <Midtronic> howdy, I'm trying to set up a second keyboard as dvorak.. it's recognized and working, I just don't know where to change the settings for it
[23:54] <marcus_> hello. i have a slight problem. Apparently I need to have a lib to make my packages work. Can anybody tell me the command line option to fix this?
[23:56] <Midtronic> sudo apt-get install <lib>
[23:58] <marcus_> but i have 68 packages that can not install so i dont know if i can do that.
[23:59] <Midtronic> the dependencies should be taken care of by apt