| stgraber | ogra: We may have found the bug for iTalc :) (at least Tobias found a QRgb mistake in his code) | 11:49 |
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| laga | ogra: ping | 11:50 |
| stgraber | RichEd-1: italc now works | 13:09 |
| stgraber | RichEd-1: upstream tells me he'll release a new version later in the day and I hope to have it ready for inclusion by Monday | 13:09 |
| * RichEd-1 cheers for stgraber and Tobias for identifying & fixing | 13:10 | |
| stgraber | RichEd-1: so oliver will have till Thursday to fill the MIR and have it moved to main (if he doesn't want to fill a FF exception too) | 13:10 |
| * RichEd-1 cheers twice & jumps up & down at the news that it's on the inclusion path | 13:10 | |
| RichEd-1 | w00t | 13:10 |
| RichEd-1 | stgraber: where can I get a featutre list for the version you are working on ? | 13:11 |
| RichEd-1 | and some high level info on how it works ... | 13:11 |
| RichEd-1 | i.e. teacher loads app on normal PC desktop | 13:11 |
| stgraber | RichEd-1: http://italc.sourceforge.net/ seems to be a good start | 13:11 |
| stgraber | RichEd-1: the client part will be starting by default on the clients and the server part will be available to the member of the admin group | 13:12 |
| stgraber | RichEd-1: starting it will show the classroom UI with all the computers and the possible actions at the top of the window | 13:12 |
| RichEd-1 | and version # of the code you are working on so i can make sure i have the correct documentation feature set ? | 13:12 |
| stgraber | 1.0.6 which will be released today, functions are identitical as 1.0.3, 1.0.4 and 1.0.5 as those were only bugfixes | 13:13 |
| RichEd-1 | (go on .. that level of detail is perfect ... it's for the suits in Intel who will never touch iTalc but want to tell people that "teacher admin" is available | 13:13 |
| RichEd-1 | also, w.r.t. the component that runs on the client: | 13:13 |
| RichEd-1 | #1 does it do any display on the local client | 13:13 |
| RichEd-1 | i.e. will the smaller screen be any problem ? | 13:14 |
| stgraber | no, it's completely hidden so no problem client side | 13:14 |
| stgraber | the only problem is if one wants to run the teacher part on a CMPC | 13:14 |
| RichEd-1 | #2 any other potential issues with runnning this on the classmate | 13:14 |
| RichEd-1 | i think ogra should test it asap on his notebook, taking over his cmpc | 13:14 |
| RichEd-1 | stgraber: nah ... the teacher needs a workstation end of story | 13:15 |
| RichEd-1 | the teacher is an adult | 13:15 |
| stgraber | well, I haven't a CMPC or any of those small screen device around (still waiting for my EEE) but it shouldn't cause any problem as a client | 13:15 |
| RichEd-1 | make a note to remind ogra to test when you "release the code to him" | 13:15 |
| RichEd-1 | i'll mail him as well | 13:15 |
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| achandrashekar | Hello.I am setting up two edubuntu servers (Athlon X2 2.2GHz's,2GB of mem,450GB HDD) to power a 60 person lab type environment. Id like more information how to cluster the boxes to power up the lab. Is there any type of how to for this? | 17:47 |
| johnny | anybody here testing out hardy? | 17:51 |
| achandrashekar | anybody on the clustering? | 17:57 |
| achandrashekar | rephrase of my original question anyone familiar with openmosix framework for clustering and how it works with edubuntu? | 18:12 |
| johnny | i've never heard anybody in this channel mention openmosix | 18:13 |
| johnny | is that software still in devel? | 18:13 |
| Paladine | yodles | 18:14 |
| achandrashekar | its a mechanism for clustering for ltsp and supposedly you need a recompilation of kernel to get it going. So I figured that "might" be what is being considered in terms of clustering | 18:15 |
| Paladine | I have been assigned the task of setting up an Open Learning environment so I was looking for some advice | 18:15 |
| achandrashekar | but | 18:15 |
| achandrashekar | Id like to get a set up going such that I CAN cluster two boxes, and/or use the idling clients to work in a powerful cluster | 18:15 |
| johnny | it might be too advanced for most of the folks in this channel | 18:17 |
| johnny | try #ltsp | 18:17 |
| johnny | as well | 18:17 |
| achandrashekar | hmm..is there a development thread of edubuntu channel?? | 18:17 |
| johnny | and/or #ubuntu-server .. if there is one | 18:17 |
| johnny | your question isn't development atm | 18:17 |
| achandrashekar | ie..i have read something about a development group working on this. | 18:17 |
| johnny | oh | 18:17 |
| johnny | well, email those folks to see where they hang out i guess | 18:18 |
| achandrashekar | okay..will have to join "yet another" list...lol | 18:18 |
| achandrashekar | ;) | 18:18 |
| Paladine | is there an edubuntu mailing list? it might be easier for me to write everything in an email than to try and do it over irc | 18:18 |
| achandrashekar | i "might" just get busy with trying to set it up myself and see what happens. | 18:19 |
| achandrashekar | and then seeing if there is any interest. | 18:19 |
| stgraber | Paladine: http://lists.ubuntu.com => edubuntu-user or edubuntu-devel | 18:19 |
| Paladine | thanks stgraber | 18:19 |
| stgraber | achandrashekar: I never heard of someone doing clustering with LTSP, some have multiple LTSP servers and do load balacing (that's the official and supported way) | 18:20 |
| achandrashekar | stgraber: http://openmosix.sourceforge.net/ltsp-omr4-1.html | 18:22 |
| stgraber | achandrashekar: is MOSIX working with 2.6 ? last I heard of it it was only for 2.4 | 18:23 |
| achandrashekar | yep...that seemed to be the issue. That was going to be the next lead in question..to see "how far" it had come..but it appears...it has been a slow road. | 18:24 |
| stgraber | I never saw openmosix running on 2.6, that will be your major issue with Ubuntu/Edubuntu as I doubt you can run a 2.4 kernel on Ubuntu (mainly due to udev) | 18:25 |
| johnny | if openmosix hasn't advanced to a 2.6 kernel by now | 18:27 |
| johnny | it sounds like a dead project | 18:27 |
| stgraber | lastest release is from December 9, 2004 | 18:28 |
| johnny | yep.. dead | 18:28 |
| johnny | achandrashekar, i wouldn't put much effort into that method then | 18:28 |
| johnny | there must be a reason nobody has picked it up in so long | 18:28 |
| stgraber | johnny: it simulates a big SMP computer, so if your software aren't threaded it's useless (it was the main problem with MOSIX and that kind of clustering) | 18:29 |
| achandrashekar | I see..hmm..i guess the question what the best methodology is to use the "combined" horespower of two systems to power up an ltsp env, And if there is a how to for that for edubuntu.. I guess your previous post about where to look is best? | 18:30 |
| achandrashekar | best question to ask about methodology i mean... | 18:30 |
| achandrashekar | sorry poor grammar | 18:30 |
| achandrashekar | i "could" power up 1/3 of the lab with one, and the other, and yet another.. | 18:31 |
| achandrashekar | but i figured id never have ALL nodes up at the same time..so why not come up with a solution to aggregrate the power..i suppose its a bit of wishful thinking. | 18:32 |
| achandrashekar | nodes used that is..not "up" ...my bad. | 18:32 |
| Paladine | k email sent to the list hopefully there will be hundreds of people all wanting to share their experiences with me :) | 18:49 |
| pem725 | I have a quick question about root logins to the F1 terminal | 19:00 |
| pem725 | I followed the directions detailed in the handbook but when I try to login - even after rebooting the server and my thin client - the root login and password are not accepted | 19:01 |
| pem725 | any ideas why this might be happening? | 19:01 |
| stgraber | pem725: what exactly did you do ? | 19:04 |
| pem725 | I did sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 | 19:04 |
| stgraber | pem725: I don't have the handbook in mind and it's not always up to date (depending on where you are reading it from) | 19:04 |
| pem725 | and then I issued a passwd command | 19:04 |
| pem725 | entered a password and confirmed it | 19:04 |
| johnny | and then you rebuild the image? | 19:04 |
| pem725 | I am assuming I did this for the root user | 19:04 |
| pem725 | yes | 19:05 |
| johnny | that's all i had to do | 19:05 |
| pem725 | hmmm | 19:05 |
| johnny | was set it and rebuild the image | 19:05 |
| pem725 | I might need to step through the process slower | 19:05 |
| pem725 | when you login, do you login as root? | 19:05 |
| johnny | login to the thinclient? | 19:06 |
| johnny | yes | 19:06 |
| pem725 | yes | 19:06 |
| pem725 | great | 19:06 |
| pem725 | k | 19:06 |
| johnny | but only from the terminal | 19:06 |
| pem725 | I will try it again | 19:06 |
| pem725 | yes, thanks. | 19:06 |
| pem725 | the reason I need to do this is to confirm that my via thin client is using the via xorg driver | 19:06 |
| pem725 | my video performance is so bad on my thin client | 19:06 |
| pem725 | horrible in fact | 19:06 |
| stgraber | pem725: so there is an easier way to do that than setting a root pw | 19:07 |
| pem725 | excellent | 19:07 |
| pem725 | I'm all eyes | 19:07 |
| stgraber | pem725: create a lts.conf file in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/ | 19:07 |
| pem725 | ok | 19:08 |
| pem725 | I have one for my via client already | 19:08 |
| stgraber | ok, so you already have a general or default section at the top ? | 19:08 |
| pem725 | yes | 19:08 |
| pem725 | is there something I can add to the already existing default section? | 19:09 |
| stgraber | just add : SCREEN_01=shell | 19:09 |
| pem725 | great | 19:09 |
| pem725 | will that allow me to login as my regular user and then sudo su? | 19:10 |
| johnny | no | 19:10 |
| stgraber | no, it'll open a root shell | 19:10 |
| pem725 | ok | 19:10 |
| pem725 | I guess I am confused here. | 19:10 |
| pem725 | so the shell will already have root logged in | 19:11 |
| pem725 | correct? | 19:11 |
| stgraber | yes | 19:11 |
| pem725 | wonderful | 19:11 |
| pem725 | thank you very much. Once I get this done, I will tackle sound and local devices | 19:11 |
| pem725 | thanks for your help. | 19:11 |
| stgraber | np | 19:13 |
| stgraber | pem725: here it doesn't seem to work with _01, I'm trying with _02 now | 19:14 |
| stgraber | pem725: ok, it works fine with _02, it'll open a root shell on tty2 (F2) | 19:17 |
| johnny | stgraber, do you have a hardy install? | 19:20 |
| stgraber | johnny: yes running in Xen | 19:21 |
| stgraber | and my lappy on Hardy (but Ubuntu, not edubuntu) | 19:21 |
| johnny | can you test something for me? it should only take 2 minutes | 19:21 |
| stgraber | sure | 19:21 |
| johnny | that's fine..doesn't matter if it's edubuntu or whatever afaik | 19:21 |
| johnny | what version of gnome-settings-daemon does it currenlty include? | 19:21 |
| stgraber | stgraber@castiana:~$ dpkg -l | grep gnome-settings-daemon | 19:22 |
| stgraber | ii gnome-settings-daemon 2.21.90.2-0ubuntu2 | 19:22 |
| johnny | aha.. perfect | 19:22 |
| johnny | do you have xnest? | 19:22 |
| stgraber | yes | 19:22 |
| johnny | ok.. su to some user and then run | 19:22 |
| johnny | some other user not currently running | 19:23 |
| johnny | and then | 19:23 |
| johnny | Xnest -ac :1 | 19:23 |
| johnny | err | 19:23 |
| johnny | Xnest -ac :1 & | 19:23 |
| johnny | and then DISPLAY="0:1"/usr/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon | 19:23 |
| johnny | that's all | 19:23 |
| stgraber | Xnest doesn't work as my test user doesn't seem to have the right to access my X instance | 19:24 |
| johnny | thus -ac ? | 19:26 |
| johnny | that's what i had to do | 19:27 |
| stgraber | test@castiana:~$ Xnest -ac :1 | 19:27 |
| stgraber | No protocol specified | 19:27 |
| stgraber | Fatal server error: | 19:27 |
| stgraber | Unable to open display ":0.0". | 19:27 |
| johnny | that makes no sense.. | 19:27 |
| stgraber | it makes sense, a software (xnest), tries to access my X server without my tester user having the right to do so | 19:28 |
| stgraber | -ac is valid for everything running in the Xnest, not on the main X server | 19:28 |
| johnny | hmm.. i didn't do anything special on my server to make it work | 19:28 |
| stgraber | if you do : | 19:29 |
| stgraber | su yourtestuser | 19:29 |
| stgraber | DISPLAY=:0 xeyes | 19:29 |
| stgraber | does it work ? | 19:29 |
| stgraber | (it shouldn't) | 19:29 |
| johnny | su - | 19:29 |
| johnny | is what i did | 19:29 |
| johnny | sure.. but that's why i do 0:1 | 19:29 |
| johnny | which i seem to have rights to do :) | 19:29 |
| stgraber | hmm, in fact I was wrong, :1 is my current X server (or at least I have a :1 server running) | 19:31 |
| stgraber | though trying with :2 doesn't work either | 19:31 |
| stgraber | test@castiana:/home/stgraber$ Xnest -ac :2 | 19:31 |
| stgraber | Fatal server error: | 19:31 |
| stgraber | Could not create server lock file: /tmp/.X2-lock | 19:31 |
| stgraber | hmm, let me clean a bit my /tmp | 19:32 |
| johnny | i know in the dbus xorg file i only have display0 and display1 | 19:32 |
| johnny | so i'm sticking with :0 and :1 atm | 19:32 |
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