[00:00] <marcus_> Midtronic: it says when it goes to install openoffice-kde tht a kdelibs4c2a or soesuch is missing and is a dependency.
[00:00] <hola2> virnik:where are you
[00:00] <marcus_> Midtronic: i would settle for just clearing the que of packages if at all possible.
[00:00] <marcus_> Midtronic: i mean i can always put the packages back in. :)
[00:01] <Arwen> anyone - have there been any security/whatever patches to the main packages over the last few weeks?
[00:01] <hola2> virnik:where are you
[00:04] <PriceChild> Arwen, kernel i think, read the ML
[00:08]  * genii hands Dr_willis a coffee
[00:08] <Dr_willis> I just woke up. :) 3rd shift sucks.
[00:09] <genii> Dr_wot in from workillis: I just g
[00:09] <genii> bah
[00:09] <genii> I just ot in from work
[00:09] <nosrednaekim> touchpad?
[00:09] <genii> Yes
[00:09] <nosrednaekim> ^_^
[00:10] <genii> nosrednaekim: It's very annoying :)
[00:11] <nosrednaekim> I have a fn key to turn it off :)
[00:11] <nosrednaekim> best feature in the world
[00:13] <brad__> I'm trying to install the ati driver, but it's not going well
[00:13] <brad__> I mean HELLLPPPPP
[00:13] <nosrednaekim> brad__: what methos are you using?
[00:13] <nosrednaekim> *method
[00:13] <virnik> hola2: here
[00:13] <virnik> hola2: I am just working
[00:13] <virnik> sorry, can't help u now
[00:13] <virnik> I got a lot of work to do
[00:13] <virnik> bye
[00:14] <brad__> the restricted driver manager says, I don't need any
[00:15] <nosrednaekim> brad__: how old is the card?
[00:15] <brad__> so I apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[00:15] <brad__> 9200
[00:15] <brad__> 9200 SE
[00:15] <nosrednaekim> I don't think that needs fglrx.....
[00:16] <brad__> that might be why xorg is unplease when i change from ati to fglrx
[00:17] <brad__> I've noticed that with ubunut my models are not in my xorg, like dbr and all of those
[00:17] <yao_ziyuan> i wrote the solution here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skim/+bug/181300
[00:17] <yao_ziyuan> and told #pclinuxos-support to refer to it
[00:18] <yao_ziyuan> i sincerely hope all major kde-based distros can solve the chinese input availability problem asap
[00:18] <genii> yao_ziyuan: Geez. Weren't you here yesterday on about the same topic?
[00:18] <Schuenemann> how do I install ruby?
[00:18] <yao_ziyuan> genii: everyday :)
[00:19] <genii> hmm
[00:19] <brad__> sudo apt-get install ruby irb rubygems
[00:20] <Daisuke_Ido> yao_ziyuan: let it go already
[00:20] <nippleclamp> brad__: what's the command to see all the avaliable channels? I always forget :S
[00:20] <yao_ziyuan> ok
[00:20] <Schuenemann> brad__, but that's 1.8.2 !
[00:20] <genii_> bah ghosted
[00:21] <shinda> hey guys, I keep getting audio errors - device in use eventhough I got no audio programs or sites open, I try to restart alsa /etc/init.d restart (also tried stop and start) but doesn't seem to work. Any one got any other advice?
[00:23] <Yannick75> hello!
[00:23] <Yannick75> does anyone know how to add file links to the desktop ?
[00:24] <Yannick75> (in KDE 4.0.1)
[00:25] <Daisuke_Ido> start by going back to 3.5.8...  but seriously, i'm not sure, #kubuntu-kde4 might be more helpful
[00:25] <Schuenemann> brad__, it seems package ruby1.8 is 1.8.6
[00:27] <Yannick75> ok
[00:27] <Yannick75> well, i'm using kde 3.5.8
[00:27] <Yannick75> but i'm testing 4.0.1 as well
[00:27] <Yannick75> though i know its not for real 'production'
[00:27] <Arwen> 4.0.1? say what? there's already a new version out?
[00:28] <Yannick75> yes Arwen
[00:28] <biovore> Its changing every day
[00:28] <Yannick75> 4.0.1 fixes lots of bugs from 4.0.0
[00:28] <jussi01> !kde4
[00:28] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[00:29] <Yannick75> but i dont see anything fixed about the bugs i have detected as a simple user...that anyone can see!
[00:30] <Yannick75> 4.0.2 in march i think
[00:30] <Yannick75> the biggest next version will be 4.1 (july 2008), because there will be new apps
[00:31] <Yannick75> that will be hopefully a version for any user, not for testers lol
[00:31] <brad__> I'm not up on graphics card and all, what the a pretty good card ?
[00:31] <Arwen> brad__, an 8800GTX
[00:31] <Arwen> or a Quadro FX 5900 (I think)
[00:32] <brad__> made by ?
[00:32] <jussi01> brad__: anything nvidia is nice.
[00:32] <biovore> they all use the same driver on linux
[00:32] <Arwen> brad__, NVIDIA
[00:33] <brad__> I want to play some wow on linux
[00:33] <doobeh> in kde4-- how do I add a button to the bottom bar (i turned on the old-style app launcher, and now its just a button on the desktop)
[00:34] <brad__> wtf, I'm looking at the price of these cards, and they are out of there minds if they thing I'm paying that
[00:34] <Arwen> brad__, WoW kind of sucks :-P
[00:34] <brad__> it might, but my son does not seem to care
[00:34] <Arwen> brad__, you never said you were on a budget.
[00:34] <Arwen> Try a 7600GT
[00:34] <grul> try 7600 GS
[00:34] <Arwen> or a 6600GT
[00:34] <grul> it's stupid goo
[00:34] <grul> d
[00:34] <brad__> wait. I am not on a budget, but I'm not stupid either
[00:35] <grul> I have an ATI card from the late 90s and it sucks
[00:35] <brad__> I have a radon 9200
[00:35] <brad__> I do already have the ati driver installed ......
[00:36] <YgorOnLine> Hello, I'm migrating from Ubuntu to Kubuntu.... Where is the games? :P
[00:36] <biovore> under games..
[00:37] <YgorOnLine> Do not exists a 'games' menu in the K button
[00:37] <biovore> kubuntu - ubuntu are the same thing basicly.. a couple of packages differernt (the kde / gnome)
[00:37] <brad__> mirgrating from Ubuntu to  Kubunut ? is that even possiable, it's like migrating from the channel SCI-Fi to TNT
[00:38] <Arwen> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[00:38] <unagi> if i wanted to restart X via command line what would the command be
[00:38] <Arwen> :-)
[00:38] <biovore> no.. install the kubuntu-desktop package or the ubuntu-desktop package.. can have your cake and eat it too.
[00:38] <brad__> YgorOnLine: do a apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[00:38] <Arwen> and then a few hours purging packages
[00:38] <brad__> Arwen: no fair, I thought it first
[00:38] <unagi> wait what biovore you can have both
[00:38] <biovore> yup
[00:38] <biovore> there just programs.. the at the login manager you can select gnome/kde/xfce etc
[00:38] <brad__> I kill kdm and restart it
[00:39] <unagi> kdm
[00:39] <unagi> got it
[00:39] <YgorOnLine> he... well
[00:39] <biovore> or gdm..
[00:39] <biovore> if your gnome lover
[00:39] <YgorOnLine> ok, I will to do a apt-get
[00:39] <unagi> but in kjde restarting x would  be kill all -hup kdm right?
[00:40] <unagi> what is the opposite of &&?
[00:40] <YgorOnLine> Really, I like the gnome's tools, but the interface of kde smells better
[00:40] <unagi> i like kde
[00:41] <Arwen> KDE doesn't have braindead defaults :-P
[00:41] <unagi> ?
[00:41] <biovore> unagi: && on what.
[00:41] <YgorOnLine> and about kde4, already testing?
[00:41] <Arwen> and it actually has configuration tools :-)
[00:41] <unagi> in a bash script
[00:41] <YgorOnLine> (you)
[00:41] <biovore> unagi: I think you can use ;
[00:41] <unagi> for 'if that doesnt execute'?
[00:42] <biovore> not sure..
[00:42] <unagi> anyone know?
[00:42] <sub[t]rnl> i missed the question
[00:42] <YgorOnLine> Would be better if I download the beta of kde4 and install here? Or to wait the next kubuntu?
[00:42] <unagi> is there a bash opperator that is opposite to &&?
[00:42] <biovore> beta is for testing.. lots of bugs, and not really completely stable..
[00:42] <Arwen> don't install the beta of KDE4, it will very probably be broken
[00:43] <sub[t]rnl> like, or?
[00:43] <sub[t]rnl> ||
[00:43] <biovore> unagi: check the "advanced bash programing howto"
[00:43] <unagi> i dunno, whatever says 'if that doesnt execute'
[00:43] <sub[t]rnl> do this command && do this if first was good
[00:43] <sub[t]rnl> do this command || or do this one if first is bad
[00:43] <biovore> in a bash script you can check the program return val
[00:43] <YgorOnLine> Ok, I will to try stay stopped... Thanks for all :)
[00:43] <unagi> oh cool
[00:43] <unagi> thank you
[00:44] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, exit status 0 is success
[00:44] <sub[t]rnl> anything else is fail
[00:44] <biovore> I think $* or something is the bash variable for last command executed return's val
[00:45] <sub[t]rnl> i find !$ extremely usefull
[00:45] <sub[t]rnl> :>
[00:46] <brad__> now here is an odd problem. I started warcraft 3, knowing it would not run, and sure enough, it died, but now my screen is stuck in the wrong resolutino
[00:46] <biovore> try ctrl-alt-+
[00:46] <unagi> awesome it worked
[00:46] <Schuenemann> I always confuse myself. How do I create a link to /usr/bin/irb1.8 called irb?
[00:47] <unagi> now i dont have to worry about if im in gnome or kde the script will work
[00:47] <brad__> yea, I've already tryed that one
[00:47] <biovore> ln -s <source> <dest>
[00:47] <Schuenemann> ln -s irb /usr/bin/irb1.8 ?
[00:47] <sub[t]rnl> yup
[00:47] <biovore> other way around..
[00:47] <genii> other way
[00:47] <genii> biovore: heh
[00:47] <Schuenemann> so source is where I want to link?
[00:47] <brad__> it's no good captian
[00:48] <brad__> I can restart the X server, but I don't want to
[00:48] <biovore> keypad +/- ?
[00:48] <biovore> ctrl-alt-keypad +
[00:48] <brad__> negitive
[00:48] <unagi> restarting X is the bees knees
[00:48] <unagi> everyone is doing it
[00:48] <biovore> wine must have bougured up something..
[00:49] <biovore> or your xorg.conf isn't setup just right..
[00:49] <brad__> I think I have only one resolution in my Xorg.conf
[00:49] <unagi> i have 2 xorg.confs =)
[00:49] <Schuenemann> ln -s /usr/bin/irb1.8 irb doesn't work, "irb" still looks for the old entry, which says "irb not installed. use apt-get install etc"
[00:49] <brad__> I knew that was a bad idea when I set it up
[00:49]  * brad__ dies
[00:49] <brad__> hi
[00:50] <Schuenemann> dead people don't talk
[00:50] <brad__> wrong channel
[00:50] <biovore> Schuenemann: you put irb in /usr/bin or something..
[00:50] <Schuenemann> biovore, it's in ~, where I'm calling it from now
[00:50] <biovore> try ./irb then
[00:50] <Schuenemann> this one worked
[00:50] <brad__> Schuenemann: I'm not talking, I'm haunting you
[00:50] <biovore> your home dir isn't in your path.. :-P
[00:51] <Schuenemann> I thought it looked first in cd, then in path
[00:51] <biovore> you can set it to do that..
[00:51] <biovore> windows does that.. unix normaly dosn't
[00:51] <Schuenemann> hmmm...
[00:51] <biovore> have to specify ./ in the end of your path
[00:51] <Schuenemann> the windows seems more appropriate to me
[00:52] <YgorOnLine> Someone to work with mono here?
[00:52] <Schuenemann> anyway, how I locate the other link? without looking for each dir in my path?
[00:52] <biovore> well it the unix world.. you don't run things out of your home dir.. you have a directory of binaryies in you home directory thats in your path
[00:52] <Schuenemann> hmm
[00:53] <Arwen> biovore, well, you could
[00:53] <Arwen> or you could not
[00:53]  * genii contemplates /usr/bin /usr/sbin    etc
[00:53] <biovore> or you install your package in /opt or /usr/local/bin
[00:53] <biovore> there is no good rule of tumb here..
[00:53] <biovore> :-P
[00:54] <biovore> I ussualy install 3rd party binary only packages in /opt
[00:54] <biovore> and software stuffI built go in under /usr/local
[00:54] <Schuenemann> where is the other irb link?
[00:54] <biovore> ?
[00:54] <Schuenemann> the one it calls when I type irb
[00:55] <biovore> thats a ubuntu bash thing.. its say that irb isn't installed
[00:55] <Schuenemann> ahh...
[00:55] <biovore> just like typing tcsh at the prompt will probably say something simular if you haven't installed tcsh
[00:56] <Schuenemann> well, I just have to move the link I created, then
[00:56] <Schuenemann> ok, I thought there was a link for that before
[00:56] <Schuenemann> thanks
[00:56] <biovore> irb I think is in the repos if you want apt-get to install it..
[00:56] <biovore> bbl
[00:57] <Schuenemann> I did
[00:57] <Schuenemann> but the program name is irb1.8, quite boring to type that 1.8 all the time
[00:57] <Schuenemann> I created a link called irb and placed on /usr/bin, everything is fine now
[00:57] <biovore> alias irb1.8='irb'
[00:57] <biovore> fixed :-P
[00:57] <biovore> stick that in your .bashrc
[00:57] <Schuenemann> an alias isn't a link?
[00:58] <Schuenemann> hmm
[00:58] <biovore> I got it backwards
[00:58] <biovore> alias irb='irb1.8'
[00:58] <biovore> alias irb=irb1.8
[00:58] <biovore> type that in bash
[00:58] <biovore> then type irb
[00:58] <biovore> should run it..
[00:59] <biovore> dir is also alias like that to ls
[00:59] <biovore> so you can type dir at the bash prompt and it will list the directory still
[00:59] <Schuenemann> why dir isn't coloured?
[00:59] <biovore> no color flag
[00:59] <biovore> its directly alias to ls
[00:59] <bigdad1e> what command to i use to install something with steam?
[00:59] <Schuenemann> interesting
[01:00] <biovore> ls --color gives a color directory listing
[01:00] <biovore> ls is aliased as ls --color
[01:00] <biovore> bbl
[01:00] <Schuenemann> well, the alias doesn't work
[01:01] <Schuenemann> nevermind, I had to close konsole before testing
[01:02] <bigdad1e> say i want to install steaminstall.exe in srcds_l what command do i use for wine to install?
[01:03] <Schuenemann> bigdad1e, to execute that file, just wine steaminstall.exe
[01:03] <bigdad1e> wine: command not found
[01:03] <Schuenemann> you have to install wine, then
[01:03] <bigdad1e> i thought i just did
[01:04] <Schuenemann> what you did?
[01:04] <jussi01> bigdad1e: just go to system settings -> advanced -> windows programs, then it will auto install wine
[01:04] <jussi01> !wine
[01:04] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[01:05] <Schuenemann> I think you need to add a repo in order to get the latest versions
[01:05] <Schuenemann> bigdad1e, http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[01:08] <bigdad1e> nothing will let it install
[01:08] <phoenixz> with what command can I see what groups my user belongs to?
[01:09] <phoenixz> or another user for that matters?
[01:09] <Pici> phoenixz: groups
[01:09] <brad__> AH I'm back
[01:09] <phoenixz> Pici, great, thanks!
[01:10] <phoenixz> and.. how can I use chmod to get r-s settings?
[01:10] <brad__> what R a good irc client, and then a torrent client
[01:11] <Arwen> brad__, konversation and ktorrent
[01:11] <Arwen> you could also use irssi for IRC and rtorrent or azureus for torrents
[01:11] <brad__> Arwen:  you just lost respect points
[01:11] <Arwen> hmm? konversation works fine for me. You could try the alternatives I gave.
[01:12]  * brad__ wanders off to ##linux
[01:18] <icu2> hi there people
[01:18] <sudo> Hello! Who has WORKING drivers for realtek ATI-ALC1200? I'm so tired after a number of instructions, which don't give any result...
[01:18] <biovore> ATI = screwed
[01:19] <ForgeAus> !ati
[01:19] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:19] <sudo> How to find GOOD drivers for my sound card?
[01:19] <biovore> They don't exist probably
[01:19] <ForgeAus> soundcard? hmmm
[01:19] <ForgeAus> !realtek
[01:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about realtek - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:19] <biovore> !alsa
[01:19] <icu2> whos using kubuntu 8.04? cant manage to install netbeans having the jre and jdk installed form sun, and the repos
[01:19] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:19] <stephan> hello
[01:28] <batis610> how can i update firefox?
[01:29] <Arwen> with apt-get
[01:29] <Arwen> or by using an official Mozilla Corp. build.
[01:29] <n1tro> or from adept manager
[01:32] <Roy_M> Hi, I have a problem with kubuntu KDE3.5 and I need to boot into KDE4 from the command line. Problem is that when I do a startx it automatically boots into kde3.5. Supposedly there is a file that can be edited that points startx to KDE4. Does anyone have any info about this?
[01:36] <nosrednaekim> Roy_M: hrm... why do you have to do startx? the login manager doesn't work?
[01:37] <Roy_M> nosrednaekim, well becase I have logged in via the terminal to do startx, it just goes straight in without giving an option to choose.
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> Roy_M: run "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"
[01:38] <Roy_M> I might drop out in a sec, as my laptop batter it getting very low, so thanks for your hlep if i do :)
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> that will give you kdm so yyou can choose
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> Roy_M: NP
[01:38] <Roy_M> nothing happens
[01:38] <Roy_M> returned to the cli
[01:39] <nosrednaekim> after running that, go to ctrl+alt+f7
[01:41] <Roy_M> nothing in ctrl+alt+F7 at ctrl+alt+F8 it tries to boot kde4 but it says that kde4 is not the default display manager
[01:41] <nosrednaekim> oooh, its probably trying to use kdm4
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm" and select kdm, as opposed to kdm-kde4
[01:42] <Roy_M> heh kdm is broken or not full installed
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> <_<
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> apt-get install kdm
[01:43] <Roy_M> should I be getting a new iso and starting from scratch
[01:44] <nosrednaekim> no...probably not.
[01:44] <sh4rm4> some words in the  "man" commands are underlined - are these hyperlinks and how can i follow them?
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> sh4rm4: they are porbably other commands (esp if they are followed by a number in parentheses)
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> those commands can be accesed by saying "man thecommand"
[01:46] <sh4rm4> like the word "types" is underlined in the mount man
[01:46] <sh4rm4> i guess theres a list of supported acronyms
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> oh...
[01:47] <sh4rm4> so "man types" ?
[01:47]  * |Dominus| salve
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> sh4rm4: umm no, I just checked what you meant.. not sure why they are underlined
[01:48] <Greenery_> how to check what version of nvidia binary driver being installed using terminal?
[01:48] <sh4rm4> nosrednaekim: it looks kinda important
[01:56] <sh4rm4> i installed freebsd to another partition. how can i add a line thats points there to grub ?
[01:56] <sh4rm4> a line to the bootmenu
[02:00] <batis610> is there any downloader like flash get in linux?
[02:00] <Arwen> kget
[02:00] <Arwen> it's not too customizable though
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> sh4rm4: I don;'t know how the BSD kernel works... I thin that would be better suited for a BSD channel
[02:02] <sub[t]rnl> sh4rm4➜ whats the name of the partition freebsd is on?
[02:04] <tyson_> how can i sort the kmenu alphabetically?
[02:05] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: manually :)
[02:06] <tyson_> i hope kde4 fixes that
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> AFAIK, it hasn't
[02:06] <thechris> kubuntu64 flash for konqueror = ?
[02:06] <tyson_> fun
[02:07] <biovore> it works.. just a pain in the but
[02:14] <jussi01> !flash64 | thechris
[02:14] <ubotu> thechris: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[02:19] <yurimxpxman> are there any good word processors for the tty?
[02:19] <Arwen> um, emacs and vi
[02:19] <Arwen> not sure if you can call em word processors though
[02:24] <Dr_willis> With TeX they are . :)
[02:24] <jussi01> nano is a favorite of many
[02:24] <Dr_willis> well "Document creation systems"
[02:25] <Dr_willis> TeX and LaTeX are hard to beat.
[02:36] <Arwen> can anyone recommend a kwin decoration? It has to not have rounded edges.
[02:37] <jussi01> Arwen: klearlooks? :P
[02:38] <Arwen> something that's not too ugly :-P
[02:39] <jussi01> Arwen: icewm?
[02:40]  * regeya is using openbox with kde, so meh
[02:46] <Arwen> gah, why can't I get rid of hplip? grr...
[02:46] <Arwen> silly dependency scheme
[02:47] <Smutt> can someone help me...i just installed kubuntu 7.10  with kde 4  on my laptop.....and i dont know where to go to connect to a wireless network...i was able to connect to wireless network with regular ubuntu 7.10 so i know linux recognizes my wireless card can someone please help me
[02:47] <BenPA> hi all ... can someone point me to why smart package manager does not sync apt-sources in Gusty
[02:48] <Smutt> is anyone there
[02:48] <Smutt> come on need some help here
[02:49] <Smutt> anyone there
[02:49] <Arwen> !patience | Smutt
[02:49] <ubotu> Smutt: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:49] <sub[t]rnl> !kde4 | Smutt
[02:49] <ubotu> Smutt: KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[02:50] <Arwen> I seem to be the only one here and I don't understand wifi
[02:50] <Smutt> ok thanx
[02:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> ...and i was just about to point him to knetworkmanager...
[02:52] <Arwen> he left? oh dear
[02:57] <BenPA> Smutt: I have always downloaded knetworkmanager
[02:59] <Arwen> gah, someone screwed up the smplayer-translations package
[03:04] <Gun_Smoke> I need to have /usr/bin/vmware-toolbox run at startup.  How do I accomplish.
[03:04] <Gun_Smoke> that
[03:07] <WeedGrinch> How do I make a simple file to run "javac *.java" in the terminal?
[03:07] <WeedGrinch> like batch will do it on windows
[03:07] <BenPA> hi all ... can someone point me to why smart package manager does not sync apt-sources in Gusty
[03:07] <jawee_> I'm trying to compile something. I have the build essential package installed, but the configure script is throwing this error: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[03:08] <jawee_> Is there another package I need to install or is it an issue with this script?
[03:09] <jawee_> WeedGrinch: Bash scripts = Batch Scripts on Windows, except more powerful
[03:09] <WeedGrinch> just save it as .bat and run it?
[03:10] <Smutt> anyone know how to connect to a wireless network with kubuntu
[03:10] <sub[t]rnl> jawee_➜ xlibs-dev
[03:10] <jawee_> sub[t]rnl: thanks!
[03:10] <Smutt> i just installed kubuntu with kde4 and i cant find a network manager that has wireless
[03:11] <jawee_> Smutt: knetworkmanager supports wireless if your card is supported...
[03:11] <WeedGrinch> What card do you have?
[03:11] <Smutt> i tried that and says that package isnt installed
[03:11] <Smutt> well my card worked on normal ubuntu 7.10
[03:11] <Smutt> i dont know wat it is
[03:11] <WeedGrinch> Thats wierd
[03:11] <Smutt> but it works on ubuntu 7.10
[03:12] <Smutt> i tried knetworkmanager in console and said not installed or something
[03:12] <WeedGrinch> Whats the diff between ubuntu and kubuntu? I'm on ubuntu, i just use kubuntu for support cuzz #ubuntu is crowded
[03:12] <jawee_> WeedGrinch: Kubuntu uses the KDE desktop.
[03:12] <Smutt> lol faster i think...and much better if you do lots of programming
[03:12] <Smutt> just a different look and feel
[03:12] <WeedGrinch> :|
[03:12] <WeedGrinch> seriusly?
[03:13] <Smutt> but its all linux under the hood
[03:13] <jawee_> WeedGrinch: and save it as .sh... you may want to read about bash files first
[03:13] <WeedGrinch> Ok thanks jawee
[03:13] <Smutt> so anyone have any ideas
[03:13] <Pici> !variant
[03:13] <WeedGrinch> if i didnt have all of my files and preferances saved on ubuntu I would use kubuntu
[03:13] <ubotu> !GTK and !Qt are !GUI toolkits (i.e. software libraries that draw buttons, textboxes, etc). !GNOME, !KDE, !Xfce and friends are "!desktop environments", which build on top of such libraries to provide a "consistent" desktop experience. !Kubuntu and !Xubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with KDE and Xfce (respectively) installed as default, instead of GNOME. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu
[03:13] <Smutt> i cant find a wireless network manager on my kubuntu
[03:13] <jawee_> WeedGrinch: if you are just wanting to make a shortcut for a command, you can create an alias under your .bashrc file
[03:14] <jawee_> WeedGrinch: This will load whenever you start a terminal
[03:14] <WeedGrinch> I just want one that will compile all the .java files in the dir, running "javac *.java" in the terminal will do this
[03:14] <WeedGrinch> so what do i put in for the file? and what do I save it as?
[03:15] <biovore> ls *.java | xargs -n1 javac
[03:15] <WeedGrinch> thanks bio
[03:15] <WeedGrinch> What do i save the file as tho? i mean, what extension?
[03:16] <jawee_> WeedGrinch: .sh
[03:16] <WeedGrinch> ty
[03:16] <WeedGrinch> Warning - could not install module JPDA Debugger API
[03:16] <WeedGrinch> 	JPDA Debugger API - This module requires jpda.jar to be accessible.
[03:16] <WeedGrinch> This file was not found. Usually this means you are trying to run the IDE with the JRE instead of the full JDK.
[03:16] <WeedGrinch> If so, please use the --jdkhome command line option to specify a JDK installation.
[03:17] <WeedGrinch> Uhm, what?
[03:17] <jawee_> WeedGrinch: actually, it doesn't matter. all you need to do is chmod +x filename.whatever afterwards
[03:17]  * WeedGrinch scratches his head
[03:17] <WeedGrinch> just do that in the terminal
[03:17] <biovore> sounds like your missing something
[03:17] <WeedGrinch> yea
[03:18] <biovore> you have the jdk and jre installed?
[03:18] <WeedGrinch> Thats what I get when I try to run netbeans
[03:18] <WeedGrinch> Im pretty sure
[03:18] <WeedGrinch> one sec
[03:18] <WeedGrinch> I installed icedtea-java7-jdk
[03:18] <WeedGrinch> That what i need?
[03:20] <jawee_> WeedGrinch: that is the opensource version of Java, which may not necessarily be complete
[03:21] <WeedGrinch> So, just run netbeans without it>?
[03:22] <biovore> netbeans needs sun's I think..
[03:22] <WeedGrinch> man im so confused
[03:24] <kadam> Hello!  I posted this is kubuntu-kde4, but I suspect it's not necessarily a KDE4 problem.  My taskbar buttons/widgets aren't showing sometimes, until I mouse over them.  They flicker, too, and the clock has flawed rendering until I mouse over it.  My video is also quite slow.  I have an NVidia GeForce 6800 Ultra, 256MB, and the restriced driver installed.  Does anyone know what might be going on, or how to fix this?
[03:25] <WeedGrinch> My friend had a problem with Nvidia
[03:25] <WeedGrinch> he said it wasn't fun :(
[03:26] <jawee_> kadam: Have you recently upgraded drivers?
[03:26] <Dr_willis> compared to the problems ive seen with ati...... :)
[03:26] <kadam> WeedGrinch: I don't think it would be 8)
[03:27] <jawee_> kadam: I believe Nvidia recently released new drivers for some of their cards, which were causing issues.
[03:27] <WeedGrinch> :)
[03:27] <kadam> jawee_: I don't think so.  It was about a week ago I installed, then I did an apt-get update, upgrade, and dist-upgrade to get kde4.0.1.  Would that have caused an update on the video driver?
[03:28] <kadam> jawee_: Ahh, I see.  Do you know if it's possible to get an older driver?
[03:29] <jawee_> kadam: I am honestly not sure. I have avoided using the propietary driver for my card because I know hibernate and suspend won't work, which I need on my laptop. Prehaps someone else will be able to help...
[03:29] <WeedGrinch> what i run /opt/cxoffice/share/icons/cxuninstall.xpm to uninstall crossover It says permission denied
[03:29] <WeedGrinch> when*
[03:30] <jawee_> kadam: It'd be nicer if if these companies would simply OSS their drivers :)
[03:30] <WeedGrinch> ah shit
[03:30] <WeedGrinch> i run teh fkin icon
[03:30] <WeedGrinch> ran*
[03:31] <kadam> jawee_: Thank you, and yes, I agree 8)
[03:32] <niall> well AMD have ;]
[03:33] <kadam> niall: For real?  Last I heard, NVidia was the way to go for linux... :O
[03:34] <biovore> nvidia is
[03:34] <jawee_> Intel Integrated is!
[03:34] <kadam> that's what I have on my lappy 8)
[03:34] <jawee_> well, for the very non serious 3d user...
[03:34] <jawee_> kadam: since this isn't kubuntu specific, you may have better luck in #ubuntu
[03:35] <kadam> I'm thinking maybe I should install nvidia-glx.  If I see it using aptitude search, how do I know if it's installed already?  Also, how do I know if I want to use nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new?
[03:35] <kadam> jawee_: Alright, I'll mosey on over if I can't get it resolved 8)
[03:37] <ubuntu> is there someting wrong with gibon kubunut ...i'm about to install it and I do not have a chance to select partitions.
[03:39] <M4d_fore> Kadam: im not on expert on this im just reading from Adept that nvidia-glx is for anything around the Geforce 4 series there abouts and the nvidia-glx-new is for the series above, i think so anyhow
[03:40] <M4d_fore> sorry im not much help, but no one was responding to your comment
[03:40] <ubuntu> please help... how do I install kubunut on sda3 ? manual option always results in creating new partitions
[03:41] <kadam> M4d_fore: Alright, I'm googling it right now anyway 8)  Am I correct in understanding that an 'A' next to a package name means I've got it installed?  Also, the glx is necessary for hardware acceleration?
[03:42] <ubuntu> guided option wants to install it on partition #1 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) as ext3
[03:43] <M4d_fore> Kadam, where are you looking from in getting that 'A' .  And i've always been lead to believe that the glx is necessary for hardware acceleration
[03:46] <kadam> M4d_fore: I see the 'A' when I do aptitude-search, by certain package names...  I did an apt-get install nvidia-glx-new, and it says it's installed already... But not having hardware acceleration would sure explainthe slowness I'm seeing...
[03:49] <M4d_fore> Kadam, well when i do the aptitude search i get a 'i' next to my install packages
[03:49] <M4d_fore> and a 'p' for ones that are not installed
[03:50] <kadam> M4d_fore: Ahh, I see an i next to some I presume are installed... I still see a big A next to the i on some of them 8)  Oh well! hehe
[03:51] <M4d_fore> sorry i cant be much help, i was here for help myself regarding openoffice... im trying to look for what this 'A' stands for though
[03:53] <kadam> M4d_fore: No problem!  THanks for answering 8)
[03:53] <M4d_fore> oh Kadam, im looking  on a page and it says that 'A' might mean "Automatic flag" now i really not sure what that is
[03:54] <M4d_fore> http://www.luv.asn.au/overheads/aptitude/aptitude-intro.html  i scrolled down to "Package list display" theres not much detial for  you im sorry to say but might be something in there to help
[03:55] <M4d_fore> but i must go to bed, its 3:55am here
[03:55] <M4d_fore> do hope you find a solution to your problem
[03:55] <M4d_fore> take care
[04:01] <Strangelet> Where could I find the the previous of the Linux flash plugin for Firefox?
[04:09] <Dr_willis> I thinki saw it mentioned  in a thread. that the older versions are somewhere on the flash ftp site.
[04:09] <Dr_willis> but aparently it either moves about.. :) or is in a large archive file of all the old versions.
[04:09] <Dr_willis> this was from the flash/ubuntu threads the bot once pasted.. (he dont paste the thread url any more however)
[04:13] <Strangelet> Dr_willis, well, I found it, thanks :)
[04:13] <Dr_willis> yea
[04:13] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:13] <Strangelet> http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=tn_14266&sliceId=2
[04:13] <Dr_willis> i thought the flash got fixed.
[04:13] <Strangelet> I believe this is it. :)
[04:14] <Strangelet> nahh, still hangs A LOT.
[04:14] <Dr_willis> Under firefox? or konqueror?
[04:15] <Strangelet> Konqueror
[04:15] <Strangelet> Firefox works flawlessly
[04:15] <Dr_willis> I dont use konqueror.. so cant confirm or deny that :)
[04:16] <_2> .
[04:17] <Dr_willis> ..
[04:17] <_2> .*
[04:18] <Jucato> hm...
[04:18] <_2> long time no C++ Jucato
[04:18] <nazca> help me, thanks
[04:18] <Jucato> I've only been gone for 2 days? O.o
[04:19] <_2> i haven't been around much either you know.
[04:20] <_2> nazca the third door on the left  --->
[04:20] <Jucato> hm.. that's my right...
[04:22] <_2> and privaledge
[04:22] <_2> :)
[04:22] <Dr_willis> Doh! thats the broom closet!
[04:23] <_2> you don't want me typing what came to mind there...  lol
[04:24] <Dr_willis> I aint cleaning up that mess! ;0
[04:24] <AMcBain> Hi. I'm simply trying to play a DVD with menus, and Kaffeine segfaults outright, VLC will run it in non-menu mode (crash otherwise) but just loop the "previews" and I can't get anything to work. I have the medibuntu repo installed and have installed libdvdcss2. Any ideas?
[04:25] <_2> Dr_willis well why did you follow nazca into the broom closet anyway ?
[04:25] <AMcBain> And yes, I tried the Ubuntu online tutorial (which installed Totem) and Totem crashes too. I even tried manually mounting the disk.
[04:25] <AMcBain> (I have since removed Totem)
[04:25] <Dr_willis> Is he still in there!
[04:25] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:25] <Dr_willis> AMcBain,  thats.. weird
[04:26] <Dr_willis> check the 'dmesg' output while trying to play the disks. it may be some deeper issue
[04:26] <AMcBain> Well, I'm rather unimpressed by the number of times and number of apps that I have managed to segfault on Kubuntu ... makes me sad.
[04:27] <Dr_willis> I cant even think of ONE app that segfaults on me
[04:27] <Dr_willis> which leads me to think - you got deeper issues.
[04:27] <AMcBain> Try Dolphin. I can segfault that. (and of course the aforementioned Kaffeine)
[04:27] <Dr_willis> I switch to konqueror for my file manager..
[04:27] <_2> would me too.   i segfaulted one app    in my life time...
[04:27] <Dr_willis> best place for dolphin is in a can of tuna. :)
[04:28] <AMcBain> If you hover over a file, and wait for the tooltip to appear, then drag the file to another Dolphin window, the original Tooltip sticks around. If you enter the tooltip with the cursor, the window the file was originally from segfaults and closes.
[04:28] <AMcBain> Way to go Tooltips.
[04:31] <AMcBain> Great. This sucks. If VLC can't even play it, that means I'm screwed. Linux is lovely.
[04:31] <Genius16> amcbain: whats goin on? just joined the channel.\
[04:31] <sub[t]rnl> AMcBain➜ is it necessary to constantly come in here and throw negative remarks about the operating system?
[04:31] <_2> i have a disk that i recorded in a VCR/DVD player but linux doesn't see data on it.   says no disk in drive
[04:32] <Dr_willis> or its possible theres a issue with the disk., or dvd drive...
[04:33] <Genius16> ah alot of stand alone dvd recorders have compatability issues when they burn the disc. did you try "finializing" it on the player?
[04:33] <AMcBain> sub[t]rnl: Well considering that I join the channel when I need help, and that is usually when something doesn't work or something is broken (which usually doesn't make me happy depending on how important it is) ...
[04:33] <_2> Genius16 the player has finialize option ???
[04:33] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. what is that command that tries to take a source package and make a deb from it?
[04:33] <Genius16> some do, at least the few ive used.
[04:34] <Dr_willis> the one we are not supposed to use/rely on. :P
[04:34] <_2> Dr_willis oh you mean the unsupported one....   let me think
[04:35] <Dr_willis> Yea..  :)  ijust saw it mentioned on a web site.. and cant even find that now.
[04:36] <Genius16> anyone in here ever use E?
[04:36] <Genius16> oh er... i mean the window manager.
[04:36] <biovore> Enlightenment?
[04:36] <Genius16> yeah
[04:36] <Dr_willis> used it on and off over the past few years.
[04:36] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:37] <_2> debian-builder ?
[04:37] <Genius16> id just rename the tar file to a .deb and hope for the best. you're likely to get similar results.
[04:38] <Dr_willis> i was thinking checkinstall
[04:38] <Genius16> why are you wanting to compile your own deb?
[04:38] <Jucato> !checkinstall | Dr_willis
[04:38] <ubotu> Dr_willis: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[04:38] <_2> pbuilder + checkinstall ?
[04:38] <_2> oh you found it.  nm
[04:38] <Dr_willis> Genius16,  because the program has no deb :)
[04:38] <Jucato> nah... checkinstall with pbuilder is overkill
[04:38] <Dr_willis> not that i can get checkinstall to do it.. :)
[04:38] <Jucato> checkinstall is the hacky dirty way to do it
[04:39] <Dr_willis> but the poor slob in #ubuntu is  wanting to compile it.. and it does compile from source.. :)  im letting the others in there teach him what  'cd' means. :)
[04:39] <_2> lol
[04:39] <Genius16> you shouldnt use cd if you cant figure it out.
[04:40] <_2> "but how do i change dirrectories?"
[04:40] <Genius16> for like 10 bucks you can get a pocket book from oriley with a bunch of commands. that thing is awesome.
[04:41] <Jucato> for 0 bucks, you could also get something probably similar from www.tldp.org :)
[04:41] <AMcBain> Okay, I just tried KMPlayer, and it appears that XINE is the item that doesn't like my disk, because that is what the (K)MPlayer tried to use.
[04:41] <Jucato> try installing mplayer and make kmplayer use that
[04:41] <joe_> k so
[04:42] <_2> for like $0 you can do   ls /*bin /usr/*bin
[04:42] <Dr_willis> _2,  thats when i  decided to let the others handle it. :)
[04:42] <joe_> i need help installing ventrillo
[04:42] <toothpick> Hello, ther first time I booted kubuntu after install it asked me about proprietary drivers...what is that program?
[04:42] <joe_> i followed some tutorial and i cant find these two files
[04:42] <joe_> libwine
[04:42] <toothpick> I don't see it come up any more and I want to install the wireless and ati drivers.
[04:42] <joe_> and libwine-alsa
[04:42] <Genius16> _2 yeah i guess you can if you want a screen full of stuff you'll be typing "man" for. the pocket book is rather handy \
[04:42] <joe_> so i cant use it
[04:42] <joe_> halp plz
[04:43] <joe_> ...
[04:43] <joe_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41737
[04:43] <joe_> this is the tutorial i used
[04:43] <_2> Dr_willis yeah.   you know though   some times those types are not so hard to help.  they just don't know any preconcived abilities
[04:43] <Jucato> toothpick: KMenu -> System Settings -> Advanced tab -> Restricted Manager
[04:43] <toothpick> thanks
[04:44] <toothpick> My first day with kubuntu, had been using debian based distros for quite some time though...seems like this is going to do me well.
[04:44] <_2> !repos | joe_ they should be in the repos
[04:44] <ubotu> joe_ they should be in the repos: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:44] <Dr_willis> _2,  yep. they gotta get 'this' going.. and they dont have time to learn  the 'basics' :)
[04:44] <joe_> there not
[04:44] <Dr_willis>  aha - i was totallyconfused about how to use checkinstall.. :)
[04:44] <Dr_willis> there we go.
[04:45] <joe_> i searhced for them on package manager but it came up empty
[04:45] <_2> Dr_willis some times,   but not always.
[04:45] <joe_> and i added the repos
[04:45] <Dr_willis> now it built. :) it installed here.. it ran hera
[04:45] <_2> update the package cache after changing the sources list ?
[04:45] <Dr_willis> now to find a site to put the deb on
[04:45] <toothpick> thanks again
[04:46] <Genius16> i think those packages are old and not in the repos
[04:46] <_2> !info libwine
[04:46] <ubotu> Package libwine does not exist in gutsy
[04:46] <_2> !info libwine-alsa
[04:46] <ubotu> Package libwine-alsa does not exist in gutsy
[04:46] <joe_> they told me to add a repo in there
[04:46] <Genius16> libwine-dev does
[04:46] <_2> yes they aren't
[04:46] <joe_> it should be in theat repo
[04:46] <Genius16> but its an old package not used anymore
[04:47] <joe_> should that package help?
[04:47] <joe_> oh btw
[04:47] <joe_> if i use Gnome Meeting
[04:47] <joe_> will i be able to connect with ventrillo users
[04:47] <Genius16> http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy-backports/libdevel/libwine-dev
[04:47] <_2> !find libwine
[04:47] <ubotu> Package/file libwine does not exist in gutsy
[04:47] <joe_> yeh i need it for gusty
[04:48] <joe_> gutsy*
[04:48] <hemanathan> can anyone explain me how to install jdk1.6 in kubuntu
[04:48] <_2> interesting.
[04:48] <Dr_willis> egads - hes just now installing build-essential.. :) i told him to install that like an hr ago.
[04:48] <Dr_willis> :P
[04:48] <Genius16> _2 what tutorial are you using to install vent
[04:48] <_2> no
[04:49] <joe_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41737&page=4
[04:49] <hemanathan> can anyone explain me how to install jdk1.6 in kubuntu
[04:49] <sub[t]rnl> !java | hemanathan
[04:49] <_2> !info sun-java6-jdk
[04:49] <ubotu> hemanathan: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[04:49] <ubotu> sun-java6-jdk (source: sun-java6): Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 6. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-03-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 9286 kB, installed size 31304 kB
[04:50] <Genius16> _2 thats the oldest post ever. have you looked for a newer one?
[04:50] <_2> Genius16 may i ask what it is that you think we are talking about ?
[04:51] <Genius16> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=9832
[04:51] <Genius16> that tutorial is from '05 its referring to packages no longer used
[04:51] <_2> and why am i supposed to be accoiated with that ?
[04:51] <joe_> ic
[04:52] <joe_> ok
[04:52] <joe_> si
[04:52] <joe_> so
[04:52] <_2> Genius16 in shout.  you have the wrong guy.
[04:52] <joe_> i tryd that too
[04:52] <joe_> BUT
[04:52] <_2> short
[04:52] <joe_> i cant find msgsm32.acm
[04:52] <Genius16> _2 roflshaterblades
[04:52] <_2> !enter | joe_
[04:52] <ubotu> joe_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:52] <joe_> it allways directs me to a website that wants me to sign up and get spammed
[04:53] <_2> those are the only kind of web sites that i feel should be hacked/cracked
[04:54] <Genius16> http://members.driverguide.com/driver/detail.php?driverid=7019. will let you dl it by viewing ads (thats so lame)
[04:54] <_2> yep
[04:55] <_2> used to be able to login as user driver passwd all
[04:55] <_2> back when driver guide was worth using
[04:56] <Genius16> heck you could try it without said file.
[04:56] <Genius16> i would anyway.
[04:58] <Genius16> man im drunk.
[04:58] <_2> so is my typin*
[04:59] <Genius16> anyone use compiz-fusion (or beryl or any other composting stuff) with an intel chipset?
[04:59]  * _2 actually tried [h,i,n,g,*] where * turned up ^
[05:00] <sub[t]rnl> i do
[05:00] <_2> most used key on my keyboard is the [backspace]
[05:00] <Genius16> i got an 855gma and everything is like working superb (which is like, strange) except video. when i move a video window it like, turns green. no realtime moving of it i suppose. similar?
[05:01] <sub[t]rnl> used too, now I use the x11 video driver, works flawlessly
[05:01] <Genius16> my most used key is alt+space. katapult rules
[05:01] <sub[t]rnl> should be an option to use it in most video players
[05:02] <sub[t]rnl> i would recommend smplayer.  Great gui front end to mplayer.  Go into settings, and change the video driver to x11.  You'll have all the compositing with the video (real time)
[05:03] <Dr_willis> i cant get smplayer to do diddly-poo
[05:03] <Dr_willis> it just never wanted to actually play. :)
[05:03] <Genius16> cool
[05:04] <Genius16> sub: thanks. that fix0rs it
[05:04] <_2> Dr_willis  diddly-poo ?   is that more or less than  diddly ?
[05:05] <Dr_willis> double less :)
[05:05] <Dr_willis> It wouldent even crash for me
[05:05] <Dr_willis> heh.
[05:05] <_2> lol
[05:06] <Genius16> i hate it when programs wont crash.
[05:06] <Genius16> once i got so mad i did su rm -R *.*
[05:07] <_2> wont work or crash.   me too
[05:07] <_2> Genius16 next time try cat /dev/zero > /dev/hda     lots more fun
[05:07] <Genius16> rofl
[05:08] <Genius16> i used to work on cisco ubr9k series routers. we used to joke about the debug command.
[05:08] <Genius16> it was great if you wanted to flood the memory.
[05:09] <Genius16> maybe its because ive had a few (about 15) but i just wanna go into #ubuntu and answer every "how do i" question with "magic"
[05:10]  * _2 goes to watch Genius16 get banned from #ubuntu
[05:10] <Genius16> its ok. i dont like gnome
[05:10] <joe_> ventrillo fails
[05:11] <joe_> is there anythign i can use to connect to ventrillo
[05:11] <joe_> without using ventrillo?
[05:11] <sub[t]rnl> netcat :>
[05:11] <joe_> netcat?
[05:12] <sub[t]rnl> joe_➜ might want to look at teamspeak or another alternative
[05:12] <biovore> I got ventrillo working in wine.. have to copy a codec from window into your wine drive for it to work. (use alsa in wine)
[05:12] <joe_> i need to connect to ventrilo ppl tho
[05:12] <joe_> i did that
[05:13] <Genius16> joe_ erm no alternative. its closed source bro:(
[05:13] <joe_> does it matter if the package is not for gutsy?
[05:13] <joe_> it uses an ip to connect to ppl tho
[05:13] <Genius16> what package?
[05:13] <Genius16> netcat?
[05:13] <biovore> It works under wine with some work..
[05:13] <biovore> ventrillo
[05:14] <joe_> yes
[05:14] <Genius16> netcat was kind of a joke.
[05:14] <biovore> need to have a SB-Live or Audigy card (emu10k or emu10k1) cars for it to work though..
[05:14] <joe_> o lol
[05:16] <Genius16> joe_ but in the future if its a .deb it should work with most or all debian distros. and if its a source package, it should work with most or all gnu platforms.
[05:16] <joe_> ic
[05:17] <Genius16> theres no literal "gusty only" kind of thing.
[05:18] <Genius16> linux distros are kinda like beer. anyone can drink any of them and get drunk.
[05:19] <_2> and hurl
[05:20] <Genius16> only time i hurl is if i drink more than 750ml
[05:21] <hemanathan> lovely: hi how are you
[05:21] <toothpick> Is beryl apt-gettable?
[05:22] <lovely> anyone know where to look for getting gusty gibbon to work? I have been using dapper for a couple years now and had automatix...
[05:22] <Genius16> install it?
[05:22] <lovely> yea
[05:23] <Genius16> so whats goin on with it?
[05:23] <toothpick> apt-cache search beryl doesn't find anything
[05:23] <Dr_willis> automatix is less and less needed  with each release. it never really was needed. :)
[05:23] <Dr_willis> You dont need beryl any more either
[05:23] <Dr_willis> !compiz | toothpick
[05:23] <ubotu> toothpick: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[05:23] <Dr_willis> !beryl
[05:23] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[05:23] <Genius16> the new "offishal" composting manager in 7.10 is compiz-fusion
[05:23] <toothpick> thanks
[05:24] <lovely> ok, so how do i get the music files and vid files to work?
[05:24] <Dr_willis> lovely,  install the proper tools/codecs
[05:24] <Dr_willis> medibuntu has most all the files you need.
[05:24] <Dr_willis> !medibuntu
[05:24] <Genius16> the strict easiest way IMO to get mp3 support is to run amarok and try to play one.
[05:24] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[05:24] <lovely> Fing duh
[05:25] <Dr_willis> dosent the video players also ask a similer thing Genius16 ? i forget  - its been a while.
[05:25] <Genius16> or yeah, medibuntu is probably a better option. since it'll give you more than just the mp3 codec lol
[05:25] <Genius16> i dunno. i havent installed ubuntu in months.
[05:25] <Dr_willis> install 'kubuntu-restricted-extras' package for  a starter. it has a lot of the extra bits you will want.
[05:25] <lovely> but I am not fluent in the language and thus do not know there names, and have spent the last 4 hours looking for them.
[05:25] <lovely> ]thank you
[05:26] <Dr_willis> w32codecs  from medibuntu , for a start, and that  kubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:26] <Dr_willis> is about alli need to install
[05:27] <Genius16> i usually install vlc for all the video stuffs.
[05:27] <Genius16> oh and media player connectivity for firefox! anyone ever use that plugin?
[05:28] <Genius16> if not you're missing out. it lets you open embedded video in a player of your choice.
[05:29] <lovely> thank you again. I was starting to lose my hair
[05:50] <vbgunz> does anybody have any serious idea *why* some update only a few days ago, renders flash completely moot in Konqueror? everytime I close a page with flash on it, I get the nspluginviewer sigsegv popup... this is more than annoying :/
[05:50] <vbgunz> and flash just doesn't work, in any regards, at all except only in firefox
[05:51] <vbgunz> I see the topic... wow
[05:51] <Genius16> answering questions in #ubuntu while drunk is easy. conversing about stuff isnt.
[05:51] <biovore> no clue.. But I have noticed the same problem.. flash works on konqueror.. but crashes alot.. I think a konqueror security update might have busted flash on konqueror.
[05:52] <biovore> !flash
[05:52] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:53] <vbgunz> flash on konqueror for me does not work at all, every close of the page with flash causes a sigsegv of nspluginviewer to popup... so it's currently a bit worse than not just working... Its crashing
[05:54] <rgreening>     use FF until the y fix the issue, or try Hardy Heron Alpha (it works under Hardy)
[05:54] <vbgunz> Hardy is KDE 4?
[05:55] <rgreening> No...
[05:55] <val0> my x server crashed :( and I need to reconfigure it, what's the cli command to start the config?
[05:56] <rgreening> Hardy is 8.04 and has KDE3 and/or 4.. not 4 by default either
[05:56] <Genius16> yeah i wish to god people would refer it to as its version number on the forums instead of its "codename"
[05:57] <Genius16> i just know ive got 7.10.... i have no idea what friggin animal that is. a badger? ferrit? cat? moose maybe.
[05:58] <vbgunz> I think a fish
[05:58] <vbgunz> glad 4 is not forced, nice
[05:58] <Genius16> i think so too.
[05:58] <vbgunz> brb
[05:58] <Genius16> 7.10 the Torrential Trout
[05:59] <enzo_> How do I setup an alias?
[05:59] <Genius16> alias? like a link to a file?
[05:59] <rgreening> 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon
[05:59] <Genius16> that reminds me of goatse \
[06:00] <rgreening> And the reason for the Animal Naming goes back to the roots of GNU/Linux and is a Homage of sorts.
[06:00] <enzo_> Genius16: Goatse? Don't wanna know. Alias for a command
[06:00] <Genius16> if its a link to a file the ln command is what you need. if youre seeking a typical "windows shortcut" make it a symbolic link with ln -s (file TO link) (filename FOR the link)
[06:00] <rgreening> See O'Reilly books, for example, which do the same for each of their books
[06:00] <rgreening> It's a tradition
[06:00] <Genius16> oh im cool with it. i just dont keep up with it.
[06:01] <Genius16> and i wish everyone else didnt either. that, or at least say "yeah im running 4.65 Rabbid Rabbit"
[06:01] <Genius16>  instead of "Rabbid Rabbit"
[06:01] <Genius16> need mroe of that stuff that gets me drunk. afk
[06:02] <enzo_> How do I setup an alias for a command?
[06:03] <Dr_willis> alias foo=bar
[06:03] <enzo_> Thank you Dr_willis
[06:03] <Dr_willis> alias ll='ls -l'
[06:03] <rgreening> R > G, so R is newer.. easy :)
[06:03] <hydrogen> except
[06:04] <hydrogen> wwhat happens after Veritious Veal?
[06:04] <enzo_> Dr_willis: How do I check if its taken?
[06:04] <hydrogen> W > V but Warty < Veritous
[06:04] <Genius16> run it
[06:04] <hydrogen> I WIN
[06:05] <Genius16> if you want "poo" to be the alias run poo in terminal see if it does something.
[06:05] <Dr_willis> enzo_,  try the logical  thing. type 'alias' :)
[06:07] <enzo_> :) it works
[06:08] <Dr_willis> and edit the .bashrc to make the changes permenet
[06:12] <Genius16> Dr_willis: thats no fun...
[06:21] <italys> hi all
[06:21] <italys> any clue how to install alsaconf?
[06:21] <italys> alsa-util doesn't include it in ubuntu
[06:22] <Dr_willis> Hmm
[06:22] <Dr_willis> !find alsaconf
[06:22] <ubotu> Package/file alsaconf does not exist in gutsy
[06:24] <italys> i tried compiling it by sound
[06:24] <italys> but it says libasound is missing even though i installed it
[06:24] <italys> s/sound/hand
[06:31] <enzo_> Dr_willis: How do I make changes to .bashrc for permanency?
[06:31] <Dr_willis> you edit the file
[06:31] <Dr_willis> its just a text file.
[06:32] <enzo_> Ok. ~/.bashrc          But what do I add?
[06:33]  * Daisuke_Ido blinks
[06:33] <Genius16> ad alias foo=poo
[06:33] <Dr_willis> What did you use.. :)
[06:33] <Genius16> anywhere really. but keep it neat cause thats the programmers way or something.
[06:33] <Dr_willis> mine has example alias lines in it allready
[06:34] <enzo_> alias dvdmount='sudo mount -o loop -t udf'
[06:34] <Genius16> i guess if you want your alias to be read and parsed first put it in the beginning. though i dont think you'll notice a differenc
[06:34] <Dr_willis> # You may want to put all your additions into a separate file like
[06:34] <Dr_willis> # ~/.bash_aliases, instead of adding them here directly.
[06:34] <Genius16> Dr_willis: what do they know? right?
[06:35] <Dr_willis> there are 6 example alias's in my  .bashrc
[06:35] <Genius16> enzo_: thats the line you want to put in to make it perm.
[06:36] <Dr_willis> Its so obvious its hidden! :)
[06:42] <Genius16> ok. im "the room is spinning" drunk.
[06:45] <Daisuke_Ido> Genius16: you still have a way to go before my favorite phase of drunkenness
[06:45] <Daisuke_Ido> "the room is staying still, but the rest of the universe is spinning"
[06:46] <Genius16> oh man im an alcoholic
[06:46] <Genius16> im not effing up my typing after drinking 3/4 a fifth of vodka
[06:47] <Genius16> i think i pass out at that point though. i dont think the universe has ever spun for me (not with booze anyway!)
[06:47] <Genius16> ZING!
[06:47] <Genius16> does anyone say zing anymore?
[06:51] <ethan961> zing
[07:02] <ahmos> Hi everybody,can someone help me compilling superkaramba plz?!
[07:06] <Jucato> ahmos: why compile it? just install it from Add/Remove programs
[07:07] <ahmos> I had ..but it seems an old version and I can't install themes like liquid weather
[07:07] <Jucato> there isn't any new version of Superkaramba for the past.. um... 2 years
[07:08] <ahmos> !!
[07:08] <Jucato> !info superkaramba
[07:08] <ubotu> superkaramba (source: kdeutils): a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 533 kB, installed size 1424 kB
[07:09] <Jucato> well, the "version" is bumped by new KDE releases. but it's still the same basically.
[07:09] <ahmos> ok I opened the superkaramba i already installed,then clicked new stuf then i choosed the liquid weather
[07:09] <Jucato> see http://netdragon.sourceforge.net/ssuperkaramba.html
[07:09] <ahmos> but i can't open it ,so how or from where
[07:10] <Jucato> it should be listed in the Superkaramba window that lists installed themes. double click on it to run it
[07:12] <ahmos> no it is not. only new stuff and open local theme
[07:12] <Jucato> then liquid weather might not have downloaded or installed correctly
[07:13] <Jucato> not really familiar with superkaramba anymore... but I'm 100% sure that there is no new version. so you don't need to compile
[07:13] <ahmos> ok no problem...but thank u very much for your help ;)
[07:14] <ahmos> yes it is working with other themes
[07:22] <mendred> ahmos: as far as i know, liquid weather needs to be downloaded and installed manually
[07:25] <ahmos> ok mendred.thank you
[07:25] <mendred> ahmos: wc
[07:39] <ahmos> mendred: yes it worked after installing manually.. ;)
[07:39] <mendred> ahmos: cool :)
[07:39] <ahmos> :)
[07:40] <ahmos> thank's again
[07:41] <hyper_ch> what's the best way to upgrade to hardy alpha3? Reinstallation?
[07:52] <elitrou> hi, i just switched to the brand new kde 4.01 on fiesty, and a lot of things don't work
[07:53] <elitrou> i'm trying to figure out, where it's kde4 immaturity or some configuration problem
[07:54] <elitrou> for example the sounds adjustment buttons are not recognized anymore
[07:59] <elitrou> anyone here?
[07:59] <elitrou> i mean awake and listening :)
[08:00] <hyper_ch> no
[08:10] <SupaFly> hey just wondering can someone shed some light on this question please: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4297734&postcount=1
[08:34] <Voyage_> i want to use a proxy for every protocol and port, specially for 80 and 8080 for all applications. how can i setup it?
[08:35] <hyper_ch> !squid | Voyage_
[08:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about squid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:35] <hyper_ch> Voyage_: reasearch "squid"
[08:35] <Jucato> !info squid
[08:35] <ubotu> squid (source: squid): Internet object cache (WWW proxy cache). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.14-1ubuntu2.1 (gutsy), package size 627 kB, installed size 1580 kB
[08:35] <hyper_ch> since when is it !info ?
[08:36] <Jucato> since like.. um... last year
[08:36] <Voyage_> This package provides the Squid Internet Object Cache developed by the National Laboratory for Applied Networking Research (NLANR) and Internet volunteers.
[08:36] <hyper_ch> Jucato: haven't been in the english channels for a looooong time
[08:37] <jcgkffycs> SupaFlly: I am not expert, but form my experience, kubuntu, and linux in general is very ok with massive hardware change, I installed kubntu onto an external 80 gig hard disk and booted of of it on random computers with various hardware configurations with not troble at all, that's my two cents, about you particular hardware, i honestly don't know, but I don know switching from single to dual core is no problem as long as they
[08:37] <jcgkffycs> are both 32 bit.
[08:38] <jcgkffycs> SupaFly
[08:38] <Jucato> freenode_#kubuntu.log:[Sat Dec 29 2007] [06:26:46] <hyper_ch>   stdin: it's a "K" question and not a "Gnome" one
[08:38] <Voyage_> how do i manullay set proxy setings ?
[08:38] <Jucato> hyper_ch: my last recorded "sentence" from you :)
[08:39] <hyper_ch> Jucato: that was only a short glimpse into this channel ;) because of a hardy issue
[08:39] <Jucato> :P
[08:40] <hyper_ch> issue remains but there's a workaround...
[08:41] <Voyage_> hyper_ch
[08:42] <linux_> ciao
[08:44] <chrome2> howdy!
[08:48] <Voyage_> i want to use a proxy for every protocol and port, specially for 80 and 8080 for all applications. how can i setup it?
[08:49] <Voyage_> i have the proxy ip
[08:54] <hyper_ch> Jucato: is it true that when you hit 3500 beans on uuforums that you then can set yourself a custom title?
[08:54] <Jucato> custom title? dunno
[08:56] <hyper_ch> Jucato: I thought you'd know ;)
[08:56] <Jucato> you thought wrong :)
[08:56]  * Jucato is not big on ubuntuforums
[08:56] <hyper_ch> Jucato: I hardly do
[08:56] <hyper_ch> Jucato: I mean I rarely do *g*
[08:57] <Jucato> :P
[08:57] <hyper_ch> Jucato: why aren't you big on uuforums?
[08:57] <Jucato> coz I'm not. does it need to have a reason? :D
[08:57] <hyper_ch> yes ;)
[08:58] <Jucato> probably biggest reason is that I'm relatively inactive there :)
[08:58] <hyper_ch> so, which hardy shall I use... the beautiful Xubuntu, the integrated kubuntu or the default ubuntu? ^^
[08:59] <[ifr0g]> hyper_ch, The Beautiful Integrated Kubuntu :)
[08:59] <Jucato> hm.. lemme see, you're in #kubuntu, so I'd recommend Kubuntu... and then direct you to #ubuntu+1 :)
[08:59] <hyper_ch> Jucato: why isn't there a  #kubuntu+1
[09:00] <Jucato> there's hardly a need for it (for now)
[09:00] <hyper_ch> ^^
[09:00] <hyper_ch> I still wonder why the devs screwed up my dvd drive in hardy ;)
[09:01] <Jucato> ask them. in #ubuntu+1 :D
[09:01] <hyper_ch> the kernel devs are not in there ;)
[09:02] <hyper_ch> but the bug is confirmed and assigned to them
[09:02] <hyper_ch> but they didn't set a priority yet :(
[09:02] <Jucato> #ubuntu-kernel :D
[09:02] <hyper_ch> and btw, why are you so early online?
[09:02] <Voyage_>  how can i use a proxy for downloads by adept package manager?
[09:03] <Jucato> hyper_ch: because it's 17:00 here
[09:03] <hyper_ch> Voyage_: route the port that is being used by apt through a proxy
[09:03] <hyper_ch> Jucato: oh :)
[09:05] <Lynoure> hmm
[09:05] <hyper_ch> Lynoure: mhhhmmm
[09:06] <Lynoure> hyper_ch: just trying to figure out what's been going on :)
[09:06] <hyper_ch> Lynoure: not much
[09:06]  * Lynoure is not big on any forums either
[09:06] <hyper_ch> the forums is great ;)
[09:06] <Lynoure> Give me Usenet over forums any day :)
[09:06] <hyper_ch> HELP NEEDED ^^
[09:07] <hyper_ch> Big question: How do I actually backup the private and public keys in KGPG?
[09:07] <Lynoure> hyper_ch: just like you back up anything else... just keep it off nasties' hands
[09:08] <chrome2> OMG I have flash working!
[09:08] <chrome2> well that was painless. ish.
[09:08] <Lynoure> hyper_ch: normally the files are in .gnupg, I think
[09:08] <chrome2> guys, whats the easiest way to get all the beryl bling working?
[09:08] <hyper_ch> Lynoure: there must be some other way than plainly copying the files
[09:09] <Lynoure> hyper_ch: you can use any tool you'd normally use for backups, keep, dirvish, tar, whatever
[09:09] <hyper_ch> Lynoure: I only see the option to export the public keys
[09:09] <hyper_ch> Lynoure: in kgpg
[09:10] <hyper_ch> Lynoure: yeah, but tell someone who doesn't like the cli to use it
[09:10] <Lynoure> hyper_ch: if you backup your home like you ought to, it's probably already in your backups
[09:10] <Lynoure> hyper_ch: keep is all gui.
[09:10] <hyper_ch> Lynoure: but how to do it in kgpg?
[09:10] <Lynoure> hyper_ch: If I answer that, next you want to know how to backup firefox settings from inside firefox
[09:11] <hyper_ch> Lynoure: that would be great ;)
[09:12] <Lynoure> hyper_ch: if you are serious, ask the people in #kpgp, but I bet there is no way to do complete backups of the data within kgpg
[09:13] <hyper_ch> Lynoure: that sux :)
[09:13] <Lynoure> hyper_ch: to me it just makes sense to have comprehensive backup solution somewhere, and not partials in every app
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[09:14] <hyper_ch> Lynoure: if you want to copy just the keys to somewhere else it makes sense not to have a complete backups solution ;)
[09:15] <Lynoure> hyper_ch: cp .gnupgp /my/backup/dir/somewhere   or just drag it in dolphin
[09:16] <hyper_ch> Lynoure: can you import those into gpg on windows then?
[09:16] <Lynoure> hyper_ch: private keys? just dump them back into that dir you took them from, and they should be found
[09:17] <Lynoure> hyper_ch: but there is Import key... as well
[09:17] <hyper_ch> Lynoure: but is the format the same on linux and windows?
[09:17] <hyper_ch> Lynoure: that's why I want to "export" and not just simply copy
[09:20] <gyaresu> Hey. I noticed KDE4 is out properly(?). If I just add the "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu gutsy main" to my sources.list is it really just a matter of installing kde4-core? Unsupported etc. I'm very experienced but thought it wise to ask.
[09:21] <Lynoure> hyper_ch: I really don't use Microsoft Windows much, certainly not for encryption
[09:21] <hyper_ch> Lynoure: well, at some places your just forced to use it
[09:21] <Lynoure> hyper_ch: if there is kgpg for MS Win, the format should be the same, after all, gpg is pretty standard now
[09:21] <Lynoure> hyper_ch: Joys of being an entrepreneur, this :)
[09:22] <hyper_ch> Lynoure: the joys of not having my bar's exam yet and being required to do the internship
[09:23] <Lynoure> hyper_ch: they key format is so standard that no matter what you use for gpg, it should be able to import your public and private key
[09:23] <hyper_ch> Lynoure: you know, M$ has it's own definition of a standard
[09:26] <Lynoure> hyper_ch: So, what software do you use on MS Win?
[09:26] <hyper_ch> tb/enigmail
[09:26] <Lynoure> hyper_ch: That one is fully compatible with normal gpg keys, even uses gnupgp as the backend
[09:27] <Lynoure> hyper_ch: any other problems? :)
[09:27] <hyper_ch> Lynoure: Tons of other problems ;)
[09:27] <Lynoure> hyper_ch: One at a time, then :)
[09:27] <hyper_ch> Lynoure: why does my computer have a neuronic interface?
[09:28] <Lynoure> hyper_ch: I'm not a native English speaker, so please reprase that...
[09:28] <hyper_ch> Lynoure: neither am I :)
[09:28] <hyper_ch> Lynoure: why doesn't my computer have an interface that plugs directly into my brain?
[09:28] <psi_> morning all
[09:29] <Lynoure> hyper_ch: a book called Synners will answer that in detail
[09:29] <psi_> hyper_ch: czause then u would spen all day looking at porn
[09:29] <hyper_ch> Lynoure: synners... ahven't heard of it
[09:29] <hyper_ch> psi_: I wouldn't have to "look" anymore... it would just be loaded into my brain and I could do other things besides it ;)
[09:30] <Lynoure> hyper_ch: it's by Pat Cadigan
[09:31] <hyper_ch> Lynoure: dunon... currently I'm occupied with The Dark Tower novels
[09:31] <psi_> hyper_ch: i don't think there is any man here who if they had porn beamed straight into there brain could do anything else
[09:31] <Jucato> ahem...
[09:31] <Jucato> ---> #kubuntu-offtopic
[09:32] <hyper_ch> that's why I prefer the german kubuntu channel ;9
[09:42] <val0> my x server crashed :( and I need to reconfigure it, what's the cli command to start the config?
[09:42] <pag> val0, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:43] <val0> pag: thanks so much
[09:43] <pag> np :)
[09:46] <annma> hi! I am trying a Live CD of KUbuntu 7.10 and I can't access my Windows partitions
[09:49] <Pramod> I need help about GRUB
[09:49] <Pramod> can anyone help me out?
[09:49] <Pramod> it is about the GRUB Error 21
[09:50] <Pramod> I use a Sata2 hard drive...
[09:51] <annma> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=62717
[09:51] <Pramod> when i finish installing Kubuntu and restart my pc on GRUB it says Grub loading stage 1.5... then it says error 21 and halts
[09:56] <hola> sameone knows how to share pppoe between client and server?
[09:58] <sigma_1234> wonder when kde4 will include all the kubuntu apps
[09:59] <annma> sigma_1234: what kubuntu apps?
[10:01] <annma> sigma_1234: ?
[10:02] <sigma_1234> like kaffeine and openoffice
[10:02] <esperegu> anyone knows if it is possible to use a nfs share with just something like: nfs://10.1.1.1
[10:02] <annma> sigma_1234: lol
[10:02] <esperegu> it gives an error on my pc
[10:02] <annma> openoffice is not a KDE app
[10:02] <sigma_1234> the gutsy kde4 cd doesnt have any of the kubuntu apps
[10:03] <sigma_1234> yeah i know that but when wil someone put it on the kde cd?
[10:03] <annma> no idea
[10:03] <annma> this channel is pretty quiet
[10:04] <Lynoure> annma: on weekends, often is. I hope you'll still find what you need here
[10:05] <annma> I find the Live CD a bit bare on the desktop
[10:05] <annma> I wonder how new people can manage it
[10:05] <annma> not sure whom to report this
[10:05] <jussi01> annma: which live cd?
[10:06] <jussi01> nrmal gutsy?
[10:06] <annma> 7.10 yes
[10:06] <annma> got it in a mag
[10:06] <jussi01> !bug
[10:06] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[10:06] <pinepain> !flash
[10:06] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:07] <annma> all those names are killing me
[10:07] <jussi01> annma: names?
[10:08] <annma> isn't that for nerds?
 To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash*
[10:08] <jussi01> annma: you mean dapper and edgy? or?
[10:08] <pinepain> hi, i just try to install flash plugin from adobe on kubuntu 7.10. it works fine in ff but not in konqueror
[10:08] <annma> yes and Gnash and all
[10:09] <pinepain> how can i fix it?
[10:09] <jussi01> pinepain: yeah, there is a bug in konq atm
[10:09] <pinepain> uhhh.... any fixes
[10:09] <hola> sameone knows how to share pppoe between client and server?
[10:10] <jussi01> annma: dapper and edgy are just like equivalent to win ME or win XP, and gnash is just a program name, like Flash, or open office or firefox
[10:11] <pinepain> flash works nice on old 7.04... maybe i need an older pluggin??
[10:11] <jussi01> !flashissues | you can try this pinepain
[10:11] <ubotu> you can try this pinepain: The Flash plugin installation has been broken for some time. A fix has been released now, although it might not have yet reached all mirrors. If the update fails to install Flash, try « sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree ; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree »
[10:11] <annma> jussi01: hmmm
[10:13] <jussi01> annma: every release of k/ubuntu has a name - to make it easier to refer to, so you will see people ask, are you running gutsy, or feisty or what ever the name is
[10:13] <jussi01> !codenames | annma
[10:13] <ubotu> annma: Ubuntu has awesome release codenames. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames for more
[10:13] <mnemonix> hoooooooooooooooola weones!!!!!
[10:13] <mnemonix> q pasa!
[10:13] <jussi01> !es | mnemonix
[10:13] <ubotu> mnemonix: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[10:14] <mnemonix> no thanx
[10:14] <mnemonix> im just kiddin'
[10:14] <jussi01> !en > mnemonix :)
[10:14] <mnemonix> bye!!!
[10:15] <annma> a channel full of bots
[10:18] <jussi01> annma: which bots?
[10:19] <annma> you're not a bot?
[10:19] <pinepain> lol
[10:20] <jussi01> nope :)
[10:20] <jussi01> annma: ubotu is
[10:20] <hyper_ch> I am a bot
[10:20] <jussi01> annma: you can call the bot by using !keyword
[10:20] <jussi01> !botabuse
[10:20] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[10:20] <annma> I know, I know
[10:20] <jussi01> like that
[10:20] <annma> just kidding
[10:21] <annma> I was only trying to feel like a newbie would
[10:22] <pinepain> emm.... apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree faild. it saz md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz.
[10:22] <hyper_ch> pinepain: you need to manually install it
[10:22] <pinepain> i know
[10:22] <pinepain> read my 1st msg
[10:23] <pinepain> i already install it, but flash pluggin doesnt work in konquerror
[10:23] <jpatrick> oh, hi annma!
[10:24] <martalli> there is a *deb I read about on tombuntu
[10:24] <martalli> that will work for konqi, too (but not as good as the original
[10:24] <annma> hi jpatrick
[10:25] <martalli> Here is the link:
[10:25] <martalli> GhxM6R
[10:25] <martalli> ugh
[10:25] <martalli> http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2007/12/31/why-cant-ubuntu-install-adobe-flash-player-anymore/
[10:25] <hola> sameone knows how to share pppoe between client and server?
[10:27] <pinepain> hola iptables?
[10:28] <hola> pinepain: is it not so easy
[10:28] <pinepain> hola: yupp. why do u need to share bandwith?
[10:29] <pinepain> 2all: is it ok to post urls here?
[10:29] <jussi01> pinepain: what kind of urls?
[10:29] <hola> pinepain: i tried to explain why
[10:29] <hola> pinepain: i have a host
[10:29] <hola> pinepain: and a client created with virtual box
[10:30] <hola> pinepain: and i want do not use NAT
[10:30] <hola> pinepain: becouse in this way host is invisible to cleint and client to host(telnet, ping rsh ....)
[10:30] <pinepain> jussi01: url with howto
[10:31] <jussi01> pinepain: if its relevant to kubuntu support, sure
[10:31] <pinepain> jussi01: tombuntu one, http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2007/12/31/why-cant-ubuntu-install-adobe-flash-player-anymore/
[10:31] <jussi01> pinepain: as long as it isnt a "questionable" howto, such as automatix or something
[10:32] <hola> pinepain: do you think that you are able to help me?
[10:33] <pinepain> hola: iptables? shure! i had something like this. but i have ws and server and now i share 80
[10:33] <pinepain> hola: ... 80% to server and the other to ws.
[10:36] <pinepain> sux, i hate flash. i've install it but plugging cause SIGTERM. isn't it adobe fault?
[10:38] <Blissex> pinepain: sometimes the GNASH/KLASH free clone of Flash takes precedence over the Macromedia one and it is a lot buggier still.
[10:40] <kiefer_> How do I change my clock from 24 hour format to 12 hour format?
[10:43] <hola> pinepain: do you hink that it could be possibile what i want to do?
[10:44] <pinepain> hola: it helps me, u should try =). it hard to learn iptables but they're very powerful. BTW, there is a lot of mans and howtoes about it
[10:49] <alromaithi> guys i just got Kubuntu 8.04 Hardy , and installed compiz through adept but it doenst work
[10:49] <jussi01> alromaithi: hardy support in #ubuntu+1
[10:50] <hola> pinepain: ok tnk
[10:57] <Riddell> ** Kubuntu meeting in three minutes #ubuntu-meeting
[10:58] <deepfreez> Hi, i have some problem... i running kubuntu and i try install kvirc ... when i type "make" give me this error: http://pastebin.ca/897236
[10:58] <jussi01> thanks for the heads up Riddell
[10:59] <jussi01> deepfreez: kvirc is in the repos iirc
[10:59] <jussi01> !info kvirc
[10:59] <ubotu> kvirc (source: kvirc): KDE based next generation IRC client with module support. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:3.2.4-5ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 3075 kB, installed size 9152 kB
[10:59] <jussi01> deepfreez: so sudo apt-get install kvirc will get it for you
[10:59] <deepfreez> give me the error
[10:59] <deepfreez> :|
[11:00] <jussi01> deepfreez: what I am saying, is there is no need to compile it
[11:00] <deepfreez> eepfreez@homelinux:~$ kvirc
[11:00] <deepfreez> kvirc: symbol lookup error: kvirc: undefined symbol: _ZN6KviSSL10globalInitEv
[11:01] <Voyage_> how can i make adept package manager to use a proxy on port 8080?
[11:02] <Voyage_> hyper_ch
[11:06] <Voyage_> well iam in kubuntu. let say apt. or lets say i want all applications to use my.ip.proxy.net:8080  . how to do it?
[11:06]  * Voyage_ waits for an answer
[11:07] <jussi01> Voyage_: patience - im looking - IIRC though there was a program named apt-proxy
[11:07] <Jucato> !aptproxy | Voyage_
[11:07] <ubotu> Voyage_: apt-proxy is a program that acts as a local apt repository server for a LAN, only fetching from the internet when required. To set it up see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptProxy
[11:07] <Voyage_> k
[11:08] <Jucato> Voyage_: also please don't cross-post Kubuntu questions in #kde. distro questions should go in here
[11:08] <Voyage_> jussi01 isnt there an app that makes all apps (or selected ones) to use a proxy on a port?
[11:08] <GrahamA> Hello, I've added a Samsung ML-1610 printer to my system and all in all it seems fine but it only prints test pages and if I send any other documents like PDF and open office writer files it seems to have problems with
[11:09] <GrahamA> Also it printed something from kwrite fine
[11:10] <sudo> I have no sound on my kubuntu. I tried all the links to drivers, bud they didn't change anything... My card config: 1.HDA ATI SB 2.HDA ATI HDMI
[11:11] <kiefer> sudo: this might sound silly, but have you played in KMix to check all the sound levels?
[11:11] <Jucato> Voyage_: have you tried the settings in Konqueror, Settings menu -> Configure Konqueror -> Proxy?
[11:12] <sudo> kiefer: No, how to do that?
[11:12] <Voyage_> yes
[11:12] <sudo> I tried alsamixer only
[11:12] <Voyage_> Jucato yes i did that and i can browse by my.proxy.com:8080 but i can use other apps like apt. that still uses port80.............
[11:15] <Voyage_>  i did that and i can browse by my.proxy.com:8080 but i can use other apps like apt. that still uses port80.............
[11:16] <Voyage_> sory for repeat
[11:16] <sudo> kiefer: Oh, kmix, of course I did it first... I just feel bad after three nights of sex with Linux...
[11:16] <jussi01> Voyage_: as a stand in for now - you could use apt from konq - apt:// in the status bar
[11:17] <Voyage_> jussi01 what do you mean. how exactly
[11:17] <Jucato> er.. please watch the language sudo
[11:17] <axel> hola
[11:17] <jussi01> Voyage_: type into the konq adddress bar: apt://
[11:19] <axel> tutti infrattati
[11:19] <Jucato> !it | axel
[11:19] <ubotu> axel: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:19] <Voyage_> jussi01 malform
[11:19] <axel> ok, tnks
[11:19] <Voyage_> jussi01 malformed url it says
[11:19] <sudo> Is my language watcheable?
[11:19] <sudo> *visible...
[11:20] <jussi01> Voyage_: sorry, that should be apt:/
[11:20] <axel> sorry for noise
[11:20] <Voyage_> k
[11:22] <axel> ciao a tutti
[11:22] <sudo> Is my shrift ok?
[11:24] <n1tro> hey wow doesn't recognize my console button (over tab) so i was just thinking if there's anything i could do about it :P
[11:26] <MidMark> hi, there is a method to have back screen settings working in hardy?
[11:26] <jussi01> MidMark: hardy support in #ubuntu+1 :)
[11:26] <pinepain> does anybody know how to saz to opera to use flush pluggin? i've add in plugginpath.ini it's location but nothing. it won't work =(
[11:28] <MidMark> sorry
[11:29] <Voyage_> any one have any info about ircd apps?
[11:29] <Jucato> !ircd
[11:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ircd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:30] <Jucato> hm...
[11:32] <pinepain> does anybody know how to saz to opera to use flush pluggin? i've add in plugginpath.ini it's location but nothing. it won't work =( .. as well as in konqueror
[11:32] <Jucato> try asking in #opera they might know better
[11:33] <Jucato> Voyage_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrcServer and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dancer-IRCD
[11:38] <Voyage_> Jucato i want to compare ircds. hybrid ratbox inspircd.  whats the best
[11:38] <Voyage_> ?
[11:42] <pinepain> sry, but how to make flash pluggin to work with konqueror? it cause SIGTERM every time when i try to open page with flash
[11:43] <Maxim000> Only FF can flash.
[11:43] <Voyage_> i cant compare hybrid ratbox and inspircd . need max stability/security and max features. and easy one.. any suggestions?
[11:44] <Maxim000> where is keymaps in kubuntu?
[11:45] <pinepain> nop. in 7.04 i have it in opera, ff and konq.., but in new 7.10 only in ff
[11:45] <Maxim000> yes
[11:46] <Maxim000> install old konk
[11:46] <Maxim000> or 7.04 :))
[11:46] <Maxim000> downgrade
[11:49] <pinepain> Maxim000, definitly, it'll help =)) but i need other solution
[11:52] <Maxim000> AFAIK - no other :(
[11:53] <pinepain> WOW!!! flash works nice in opera 9.5 beta, but not in 9.25
[11:53] <Thecks> pinepain: TELL ME ABOUT IT!
[11:54] <Thecks> It does my head in, and Opera 9.5 is buggy for me.
[11:54] <Thecks> In fact, crashes about 80% of start up times
[11:54] <Maxim000> Opera is proprietary...
[11:54] <Maxim000> why u don't like FF?
[11:56] <pinepain> Thecks: about what
[11:56] <Thecks> The fact it works fine in 9.5 but not 9.25
[11:56] <pinepain> Maxim000: actually i like lynx
[11:56] <Maxim000> :)
[11:57] <pinepain> Thecks: flash pluggin work for opera 9.50beta =)
[11:57] <Thecks> Yes, but the beta crashes a lot for me
[11:58] <pinepain> wow, mine is fine now =)
[11:58] <pinepain> whats ur OS
[11:59] <pinepain> Maxim000: sometimes i need to chek does opera parce my webpage correctly.
[11:59] <Voyage_> i cant compare hybrid ratbox and inspircd . need max stability/security and max features. and easy one.. any suggestions?
[12:00] <Maxim000> pinepain, i see :)
[12:02] <walmik> hi.. i ve just installed  nvidia drivers using Envy on my compaq pressario laptop. Can anyone please tell me how I can change the resolution . All my earlier attempts ended in reinstalling kubuntu... pls help
[12:02] <walmik> i have installed kubuntu over 5 times already
[12:02] <walmik> in the same day!
[12:03] <walmik> i can come some other time if everyones busy
[12:03] <nibbe> Whenever I try to access my 2nd HDD it sais "Permission Denied". why? This just came all of a sudden, it's never acted like this before
[12:03] <pinepain> walmik: have u tried system settings???
[12:04] <pinepain> nibbe: chek permission
[12:04] <walmik> pinepain: i did
[12:04] <walmik> pinepain: it has max 800 x 600
[12:04] <walmik> pinepain: when i try the other options, my machine doesnt boot as it gets stuck on a loop with a microcode error and i reinstall kubuntu
[12:05] <pinepain> walmik: wow. nvidia rulez, last time i've install its driver i got kernel panic =)
[12:05] <nibbe> pinepain: how?
[12:05] <pinepain> nibbe: ls -LA [here ur mount dir]
[12:06] <walmik> pinepain: any idea how i can run at 1280 x 800? i really dont want to go back to vista
[12:06] <pinepain> nibbe: on my pc it looks like ls -lA /media
[12:06] <walmik> pinepain: i even get the nvidia logo on startup
[12:06] <im-a-n00b> hey all, does anyone know what "error receiving uevent message: no buffer space available" means?
[12:07] <pinepain> walmik: yuppp. nvidia haz us all =). do u really need nvidia driver? i don't use any nvidia driver and everythin works!
[12:08] <RogueJediZero> pinepain: glxgears too?
[12:08] <walmik> pinepain: i really dont need it but then how do i get 1280x800 resoultiuon?
[12:09] <pinepain> RogueJediZero: yeah, but weeeeeeery slow =)
[12:10] <RogueJediZero> pinepain: Well, there you go. That's one reason why you'd be advised to get the driver.
[12:10] <pinepain> walmik: dunno. if there is no such resolution in settings then try xorg.conf, it works for me on old mandrake with CRT monitor
[12:11] <pinepain> RogueJediZero: but it better than ugly green logo on startup
[12:11] <pinepain> walmik: BTW, what modes are there in setting
[12:11] <RogueJediZero> pinepain: You can turn that off. I'd have to look up how exactly,  but you can
[12:12] <walmik> pinepain: max is 800x600. when i change the hardware settings i can increase this but i end up not beiing able to login agian
[12:12] <pinepain> RogueJediZero: =), last time when i tried to install official driver i got kernel panic =))
[12:14] <RogueJediZero> pinepain: Whoa. Then I understand your reluctance
[12:15] <walmik> hasnt anyone faced a problem with nvidia or basic resolition
[12:15] <RogueJediZero> pinepain: Where did you get the driver anyway?
[12:15] <pinepain> walmik: that sux. but i've find that win 1024x768 is not equal linux 1024x768
[12:15] <nosrednaekim> eh?
[12:15] <nosrednaekim> pinepain: how so?
[12:16] <pinepain> RogueJediZero: actually now i dont use any external driver. it seems X works not bad without it
[12:17] <pinepain> nosrednaekim: dunno. i had manually config nvidia driver in win to get nice pic
[12:18] <nosrednaekim> pinepain: ah..ok
[12:18] <im-a-n00b> hey all, does anyone know what "error receiving uevent message: no buffer space available" means?
[12:18] <nosrednaekim> im-a-n00b: are you running out of RAM? and where was that message from?
[12:18] <pinepain> im-a-n00b: sry, but did u tried google it?
[12:19] <pinepain> nosrednaekim: imho, it something with HW
[12:19] <im-a-n00b> have a gig of ram... message was during boot... straight after loading hardware drivers.. have googled it.. others have had the problem but i havent seen a deffinate this is what causes it
[12:19] <im-a-n00b> it onle happens occasonally
[12:20]  * im-a-n00b isnt having a good night at typing
[12:20] <nosrednaekim> im-a-n00b: you having any problems?
[12:20] <pinepain> im-a-n00b: what is ur swap size
[12:20] <im-a-n00b> nosrednaekim: i havent noticed any..
[12:21] <im-a-n00b> nosrednaekim: i just dont want it to die on me when i least expect it... swap is also about a gig (1300 mb)
[12:22] <nosrednaekim> im-a-n00b: then I wouldn't worry about it.
[12:22] <hola> iim able to download paskages fromm uuntu but konqueror does not connectet to internet
[12:23] <nosrednaekim> hola: are you using knetworkmanager?
[12:23] <im-a-n00b> nosrednaekim: ok... was getting worried that one day ill boot.. and all will be gone... or in a melted metal and plastic heap on the floor lol
[12:23] <pinepain> im-a-n00b: there is some solutions http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=290079
[12:23] <hola> nosrednaekim: why this question
[12:23] <im-a-n00b> pinepain: ok.. thanks :)
[12:24] <nosrednaekim> hola: i'm the one asking questions ;)
[12:24] <hola> nosrednaekim: i think yes
[12:24] <hola> the icon is present
[12:24] <nosrednaekim> hola: are you using it?
[12:25] <pinepain> im-a-n00b: BTW, this is a firs google result on ur question
[12:25] <im-a-n00b> pinepain: yeah.. i just checked the link.. ive seen that page... random solutions.. and no real specifics on the problem itself
[12:25] <im-a-n00b> been to launchpad too
[12:26] <im-a-n00b> at one point someone said it was a kernel error.. .but it would be happening in other distros if that was the case right?
[12:26] <nibbe> how do I get back to the standard Kubuntu theme? (havent used this computer in a loooong time :-P)
[12:27] <nosrednaekim> nibbe: I've wondered the same thing at times.....:)
[12:27] <hola> nosrednaekim: tell me how to know if it is running or t.
[12:27] <hola> Actually im using NAT
[12:27] <im-a-n00b> nibbe: in a terminal type kcontrol
[12:27] <nosrednaekim> hola: if its icon is in the panel,its running
[12:27] <nibbe> ah
[12:27] <nibbe> thanks
[12:27] <hola> nosrednaekim: have a kill it
[12:28] <nosrednaekim> hola: yes, if you are not using it, kill it
[12:29] <im-a-n00b> ok... going now.. night all.. i think ill sleep on the problem (and if i dont go now that will mean sleeping on my computer)
[12:29] <hola> nosrednaekim: sorry, the result is the same, no web navigation
[12:29] <nosrednaekim> im-a-n00b: ^_^
[12:30] <nosrednaekim> hola: so, you can ping things? like "ping www.google.com"?
[12:30] <im-a-n00b> thanks all for the input :)
[12:30] <hola> nosrednaekim: in NAT mode i think that it is not possible
[12:30] <nosrednaekim> hola: it should be....
[12:30] <nosrednaekim> if you can get out with apt.
[12:32] <pinepain> !flash
[12:32] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[12:32] <hola> nosrednaekim: no, it does not works
[12:32] <pinepain> !udev > pinepain
[12:33] <nosrednaekim> hola: hrm, ok, i'm not familiar with proxies, so I'm not sure what to say.... try getting firefox and see if that can get out.
[12:33] <pinepain> !nspluginwrapper
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nspluginwrapper - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:33] <hola> nosrednaekim: ok im download it just now
[12:33] <deepfreez> Hi, i install kde4 and i have a problem with XMMS >> http://pastebin.ca/897291 , i running kubuntu desktop
[12:34] <Dr_willis> i would suggest using somthing other then xmms. its gotten a bit out of date. and has a lot of 'quirks'
[12:34] <Dr_willis> bmpx is a nice player.
[12:34] <hansjd> what is the best multimedia player for kubuntu (also versatile)
[12:35] <Dr_willis> depends on what you want. :)
[12:35] <nosrednaekim> hansjd: I would of course say amarok :)
[12:35] <hola> nosrednaekim: the same
[12:35] <hansjd> Dr_willis: mostly for video
[12:35] <Dr_willis> i tend to use bmpx, or mirro, or  different players depending on the task.
[12:35] <nosrednaekim> hola: but you can talk on IRC?
[12:35] <Dr_willis> for video i tend to use vlc.
[12:36] <nosrednaekim> hansjd: for video, use vlc
[12:36] <hansjd> vlc... thanx
[12:36] <deepfreez> ok
[12:36] <Dr_willis> you can even get anduse vlc under windows :)
[12:37] <hola> now im on host
[12:37] <hola> nosrednaekim: hai i try on client?
[12:37] <hansjd> btw... is there anything that can play wmv...
[12:37] <Dr_willis> depends on the codec of the wmv,
[12:37] <nosrednaekim> hola: oh... this is from within a virtualmachine?
[12:37] <walmik> pinepain: hi... the resolution problem is solved
[12:38] <Dr_willis> Its alll about the codecs :)
[12:38] <hola> nosrednaekim: yes
[12:38] <nosrednaekim> hola: what?
[12:38] <hansjd> rephrase my question... what codec do i need
[12:38] <hola> nosrednaekim: the problem is on virtual machine
[12:38] <Dr_willis> a wmv file can be any of a dozen codecs...
[12:39] <Dr_willis> !w32codecs
[12:39] <ubotu> The Win32 codecs are available from the Medibuntu repositories (see « /msg ubotu medibuntu »), and for releases prior to Gutsy, also at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:39] <jpatrick> !info libxine1-ffmpeg | hansjd
[12:39] <ubotu> hansjd: libxine1-ffmpeg (source: xine-lib): mpeg related plugins for libxine1. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.7-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 435 kB, installed size 908 kB
[12:39] <nosrednaekim> hola: oh.. that makes it even harder, I'd say ask in the channel of your virtual machine.
[12:39] <walmik> hi all... in IE a zipped folder is not getting downloaded but the same zipped file can be downloaded. The file is inside Flash linked with getURL,, can anyone pls help in this matter?
[12:39] <pinepain> walmik: man! cool. how do u solve it?
[12:40] <walmik> pinepain: well it was kinda foolish of me... i had used Envy to install the driver and it had created a Nvidia control panel which was in Settings
[12:40] <hola> nosrednaekim: i have 2 virtual machine, only one have this problem
[12:40] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. I have to wonder how a zipped 'folder' is different from a ziped file. they would both be whatever.zip files.
[12:40] <walmik> pinepain: thanks for ur help anyways
[12:41] <pinepain> walmik: and IE == m$ internet explorer?
[12:41] <walmik> Dr_willis: ya thats right.. any idea wat cud be making IE treat it differently
[12:41] <walmik> pinepain: IE is internet explorer
[12:41] <Dr_willis> walmik,  its ie... I dont know or use ie. :)
[12:42] <Dr_willis> use a download manager to grab it ifyou want it badly i guess.
[12:42] <pinepain> man ie? lol
[12:42] <walmik> Dr_willis: neither do i but all the sites have to confirm to all the browsers
[12:42] <pinepain>  u use ie in win or in linux?
[12:43] <monte48lowes> I have to use IE at work. I came in late.. what's the question?
[12:43] <walmik> pinepain: i know wat u mean but then the client demands that all the site my company does must load in all browsers
[12:43] <Dr_willis> how can a zipped folder be any different from a zipped file.. zip files can contain foldera and files.
[12:43] <walmik> pinepain: i use it one of my machines just for testing
[12:44] <walmik> Dr_willis: i dont want any file... i have to just make it availabl for all users to download it from a site i m working on
[12:45] <Dr_willis> walmik,  somthing is not making sence here. I dont see how  a zip file with just a folder or 2 in it. could be treated differently then a zip file with a file or 2 in it.
[12:45] <taras> i need help with sound in kubuntu
[12:45] <Dr_willis> Unless the browser is some how opening the zip files.
[12:45] <walmik> Dr_willis: ya its the same....
[12:45] <pinepain> taras: ru?
[12:45] <monte48lowes> taras: have you had sound working at all?
[12:46] <walmik> Dr_willis: i suppose its a recent bug which has popped up
[12:46] <walmik> Dr_willis: coz the same link worked well earlier
[12:46] <taras> im half ruussian and half ukranian, and the sound does not work at all
[12:47] <pinepain> walmik: is it so neccessary to use flash at all?
[12:47] <walmik> pinepain: its a flash website, hence its a must
[12:47] <monte48lowes> taras: what sound card does your computer have?
[12:47] <pinepain> taras: а что именно у тебя не получается?
[12:48] <Jucato> !ru
[12:48] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[12:48] <taras> i have an integrated sound card on an old intel motherboard
[12:48] <walmik> pinepain: is there any other place i can ask this question... just like this one helps people discussing kubuntu
[12:48] <walmik> pinepain: maybe another server or someting
[12:49] <taras> pinepain; im terrible at reading, i can olny speak
[12:49] <monte48lowes> taras: do you have any volume control from the taskbar icon?
[12:49] <pinepain> walmik: actually i cant understand whats ur problem with files
[12:50] <taras> yes, the volume is up and everything
[12:50] <taras> i just had a huge leap from windoews xp to kubuntu, so i have no idea what im doing
[12:50] <monte48lowes> ok. Alt-F2 > konsole > <Enter>
[12:51] <monte48lowes> taras: this will open a terminal, or you can use the menu
[12:51] <walmik> pinepain: thats ok.. its nice of u to show this much concern anyways... is ther another server or channel where i can discuss this... i mean the way i logged in here, can i login elsewhere from here as wekk
[12:51] <taras> you could just say open up konsole
[12:51] <monte48lowes> true
[12:51] <taras> im not that new
[12:51] <monte48lowes> lol
[12:51] <Dr_willis> You can never tell in this channel. :)
[12:52] <Dr_willis> over heard last night.. "ok how to i cd /home/Desktop ?"
[12:52] <Dr_willis> :)
[12:52] <taras> actually i have a load of problems i cant fix
[12:52] <monte48lowes> taras: type alsamixer
[12:52] <hola> nosrednaekim: solved
[12:53] <nosrednaekim> hola: sweet,how did you fix it?
[12:53] <pinepain> walmik: actually u should search on freenode ... or google it. dunno. all problems i had i've solve with manuals
[12:53] <taras> ok
[12:53] <monte48lowes> this will open 'alsamixer'. check for any volume controls that are not turned up
[12:53] <walmik> pinepain: is freenode inside Konversaation
[12:53] <monte48lowes> taras: use <Tab> to go through all the pages
[12:53] <nosrednaekim> Dr_willis: lol
[12:54] <taras> ok. everything is up or almost all the way up
[12:54] <pinepain> walmik: emmm.. freenode is a irc server. and konversation is a client
[12:54] <nosrednaekim> walmik: koversation generally connects to freenode by default
[12:54] <monte48lowes> is anything muted?
[12:54] <deepfreez> How i can add "alsa" for Amarok :|
[12:54] <pinepain> walmik: press F5 to get chanal list tab
[12:54] <walmik> nosrednaekim: ok
[12:55] <walmik> pinepain: i ll try this
[12:55] <taras> a few things are muted, but nothing that looks important
[12:55] <taras> like surround and mics
[12:55] <monte48lowes> try unmuting everything, one at a time
[12:56] <monte48lowes> those can be tricky, you never know what it's going to do
[12:56] <taras> ic
[12:57] <monte48lowes> taras: please verify the speakers are plugged into the correct jack and power is available to them
[12:58] <monte48lowes> taras: during troubleshooting it's good to remember Occam's Razor
[12:58] <kaminix> Anyone else having problems installing the new Medibuntu Skype package?
[12:58] <taras> yes, stereo is plugged in, to a reciever that powers speakers
[12:59] <taras> and whats occams razor?
[12:59] <monte48lowes> the simplest answer is usually the correct one
[12:59] <nosrednaekim> cept its not spelled "razor"...
[12:59] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[12:59] <nosrednaekim> (I don't think)
[13:00] <monte48lowes> google it... :P
[13:00] <sergey> hello! Sorry, anyone know how to switch off scan mirrors at the end Ubuntu installation?
[13:00] <pinepain> sergey: there is a few install modes
[13:01] <taras> i nothing seems to be working
[13:01] <monte48lowes> don't lose hope
[13:01] <taras> the test sound in the sound system options doesnt make sound, and youtube videos dont make sound
[13:01] <kaminix> Where can one vote for the Kubuntu homepage mockups?
[13:02] <nosrednaekim> sergey: yeah, disconnect(or disable) your network
[13:02] <pinepain> sergey: in the beginig try to press esc a few times and play with settings there, AFAIR, there is something like questions iportantce level
[13:02] <taras> whatever, forget sound, its not important right now
[13:02] <monte48lowes> try as many basic things as you can, outside of the computer. verify the cables are working correctly, attached to the correct locations etc...
[13:02] <monte48lowes> taras: what other problems are you dealing with
[13:02] <kaminix> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55330/ <--- Any ideas of how to solve this?
[13:03] <pinepain> nosrednaekim: will not work. installer will try to scan mirriows even there is no connection at  all =))
[13:03] <hola> nosrednaekim: it was a resolv.conf access file problem
[13:03] <taras> i have to figure out other problems, hold on
[13:03] <nosrednaekim> pinepain: no it won't (in my experience)
[13:04] <nosrednaekim> hola: ah,ok
[13:04] <taras> i cant open up my external NTFS hard drive even after installing NTFS config
[13:04] <Dr_willis> taras,  you did run the ntfs-config program? not just isntalled it? :)
[13:04] <taras> wait what, i thought it does that automatically
[13:04] <hola> nosrednaekim: thanks
[13:04] <taras> how do i run it?
[13:04] <Dr_willis> sudo ntfs-config :)
[13:05] <nosrednaekim> kaminix: try uninstalling skype first.... it might spit out some more useful messages
[13:05] <monte48lowes> taras: NTFS is not cleanly unmounted by windows during some shutdowns, connect the drive to a windows machine and cleanly unmount it.
[13:05] <pinepain> nosrednaekim: wow! on my expirience it tried =)
[13:05] <kaminix> nosrednaekim: aptitude remove or purge?
[13:05] <taras> i have one cumputer, this used to have windows
[13:05] <nosrednaekim> kaminix: purge
[13:05] <taras> somputer*
[13:06] <taras> computer**
[13:06] <taras> i just woke up, my heads not on right
[13:06] <taras> the unclean mount might be a problem
[13:07] <kaminix> nosrednaekim: Thanks, worked fine now. :)
[13:07] <taras> i cant do that. whenever i install windows it get curropted after 5 restarts
[13:07] <taras> corrupted*
[13:09] <taras> hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 100
[13:09] <taras> 1000*
[13:10] <taras> thats the error i got
[13:10] <taras> i shouldve googled that
[13:10] <Dr_willis> I had to run the ntfs-confiog program, checked botht he options. then  the user was able to mount my ntfs disks.
[13:10] <pinepain> SUXXXXXXXXXX, flash 7 works perfect in konqueror, flash 9 pluggin - nspluginviewer SIGTERM
[13:10] <Dr_willis> Unles sof course its was lalready mounted.
[13:10] <monte48lowes> taras: good luck, I will check back later. I have to go
[13:12] <taras> its not mounted, i cant get into it, but im pretty sure it wasnt un mounted from windows, unless it umnounts at shutdown
[13:12] <Dr_willis> windows?  its possible its been tagged as being needed to be checked by windows.
[13:12] <Dr_willis> in that case you could try to mount it from the terminal, and  see if any erorrs print out
[13:14] <taras> i dont know that command im guessing sudo mount (HD name)?
[13:14] <ahmos> Hi,I ned a little help please,I think I've finished installing most of programms I need,so I want to back up my system ..so how and how to restor it if my system failed to start?
[13:15] <pinepain> ahmos: what part u want to bkup
[13:16] <ahmos> all of my root partition !!
[13:16] <pinepain> ahmos: WOW, r u shure? why?!!??
[13:17] <pinepain> ahmos: in most cases it is enough to backup configs, data and profile
[13:17] <ahmos> I'm afraid after some days I do some thing wrong and lose evry thing I have installed and adjusted...:D
[13:17] <ahmos> aha
[13:18] <ahmos> so how
[13:18] <ahmos> ?
[13:18] <pinepain> ahmos: =) try to save root partition on external srorage or other partition
[13:19] <pinepain> pinepain: sudo cp -R / to_ur_device
[13:20] <pinepain> ahmos: sry, just bkup directories u want and bevar cycle links
[13:20] <pinepain> ahmos: it is no reason to bakup /dev , /tmp
[13:20] <ahmos> ok
[13:21] <taras> i really need help with the external hard drive, if any one can
[13:22] <ahmos> can I ask what is the back up interval
[13:23] <pinepain> ahmos: depends of ur needs
[13:24] <ahmos> so how ..I see that i can adjust numbers
[13:24] <taras> what if i reinstall windows and un mount the drive from there
[13:24] <pinepain> ahmos: i make bkups of config and profile 1-2 times in month and every day bkup my data
[13:25] <ahmos> ah,ok
[13:27] <taras> what if i restart the drive
[13:28] <taras> now i got it to the desktop
[13:29] <ahmos> and how to resore it from a terminal
[13:31] <andersin> can someone please tell me how I can upload to PPA?
[13:34] <monte48lowes> taras: do you have ntfsprogs installed?
[13:34] <monte48lowes> taras: there is a program within that package: ntfsfix
[13:35] <taras> so i have to install thoes?
[13:36] <monte48lowes> taras: I have not used it before, what I am reading though it can reset the journal
[13:36] <monte48lowes> which is keeping the drive from being mounted
[13:36] <taras> cannot find package
[13:36] <konrad> andersin: PPA?
[13:36] <rodolfo> hola
[13:37] <taras> ntfs progs is installing
[13:38] <taras> its installed, how do i open it
[13:40] <ReALF> hi. i use kubuntu 7.04. my konqueror doesn't show web sites, but another browser is ok. how can i make work konqueror?
[13:42] <monte48lowes> the man page suggests: ntfsfix /dev/sdxx
[13:42] <monte48lowes> better: man ntfsfix
[13:45] <andersin> konrad: personal package archives
[13:46] <BenPA> hi all ... can someone point me to why smart package manager does not sync apt-sources in Gusty under kubuntu
[13:47] <jaguilera> hi all, so it seems the konq+flash issue is resolve on kde's svn (http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132138) any packager here to tell as when will it be on the repos?
[13:48] <pinepain> jaguilera: just use flash 7
[13:48] <jaguilera> is it in the adobe ftp? i'll look it up..
[13:49] <pinepain> jaguilera: dunno, there is dev package, if u want i can upload library
[13:50] <jaguilera> pinepain: nevermind, I can live without flash until it gets to the repos (anyway it works in ffox so), but thx anyway
[13:50] <Jucato> jaguilera: it should be working in Hardy Alpha 3 already (see the last release announcement)
[13:51] <jaguilera> Jucato: mm, that's too much bleeding edge given my current workload ;)
[13:51] <jaguilera> I can't afford testing an alpha right now
[13:52] <Jucato> either way, you'll have to wait until either you're ready/willing to use hardy (beta or later) or the fix is backported to gutys (if it will)
[13:53] <jaguilera> I hope it gets backported eventually
[13:53] <BluesKaj> BenPA, it's not a matter of synching wirh sources as much as opening some of the repositories such as the restricted ones , in the sources.list
[13:53] <sergey> sorry for stupied question. but how to install glib from Ubuntu disc?
[13:54] <BluesKaj> !sources.list | BenPA
[13:54] <ubotu> BenPA: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[13:55] <sergey> thanks
[13:57] <pinepain> sergey: apt-cache search glib
[13:57] <pinepain> sergey: if there is glib: sudo apt-get install glib
[13:57] <Jucato> glib should already be installed by default.. it's a very basic and needed library afaik
[13:57] <BenPA> BluesKaj:  How am I suppose to know if the repos for smartpm or which ever one it is that I need to make sure is opened?
[14:00] <BluesKaj> BenPA, in the run program box : kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list ..then look at the deb repositories and make sure any listed are enabled by removing the # in front. Save the file and then do: sudo apt-get update,  in the terminal
[14:02] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | BenPA , then you can add these :
[14:02] <ubotu> BenPA , then you can add these :: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[14:03] <BenPA> BluesKaj:  thanks, I understand but which one should effect smartpm ... I seem to be getting apt-get but unlike other versions, Gusty shows no links
[14:03] <BenPA> BluesKaj:  oh, ok ... I think that is what I needed to know
[14:03] <BluesKaj> BenPA, let me check, hang on
[14:06] <BluesKaj> aha BenPA , you're trying to install redhat RPM apps eh?
[14:07] <BluesKaj> !RPM | BenPA
[14:07] <ubotu> BenPA: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[14:07] <BenPA> BluesKaj:  no, smartpm installs with apt-get inside of Gusty
[14:08] <BluesKaj> yes but it still is a vehicle for installing RPMs
[14:09] <BluesKaj> BenPA, smartpm is listed in adept if you have the proper repos enabled/listed
[14:10] <BenPA> BluesKaj:  I am not sure of that but smart or (smartpm) installs in feisty with no problem and syncs apt-get repos to smart's repos
[14:10] <Helmer> hello people
[14:10] <BluesKaj> BenPA, i just found it in adept
[14:11] <BluesKaj> !hi | Helmer
[14:11] <ubotu> Helmer: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[14:11] <BenPA> BluesKaj:  are you suggesting I should install it using adept?
[14:12] <BluesKaj> if it's there, BenPA
[14:12] <BluesKaj> I just did...gonna try it out
[14:13] <taras> oh i know
[14:13] <taras> my sound card doesnt have drivers for it
[14:14] <taras> because when i make it do a system error ping, a little beeps comes out of the computer speaker
[14:14] <BenPA> BluesKaj:  per the smart channel help ... if you type ... sudo smart channel --show ... it should show if the repo is sync'd
[14:15] <marco__> how can I have audio support for HDA SB 450
[14:15] <marco__> ?
[14:17] <sfn> hi
[14:18] <sfn> i downloads and install .kth theme
[14:19] <sfn> but i can chane it ??
[14:19] <BluesKaj> ok BenPA, what's the advantage of using smartpm vs apt, adept or synaptic ?
[14:19] <sfn> *change
[14:20] <sfn> *but i can't chane it ??
[14:20] <Jucato> !changethemes | sfn
[14:20] <ubotu> sfn: To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes
[14:20] <BluesKaj> marco__, asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"
[14:21] <gundam_rx78nt1> Good morning.
[14:22] <gundam_rx78nt1> How do I "fall back" on an application that has been upgraded?
[14:22] <gundam_rx78nt1> for example: I upgraded amarok to 1.4.8 and want to go back to 1.4.7
[14:23] <BenPA> BluesKaj:  smart can be used the same way in any linux distribution that participates so if I switch or to say Linux Mint
[14:24] <BenPA> BluesKaj:  it would be the same format and I like the smart fix function and it's easier to find packages
[14:24] <BluesKaj> yes BenPA , I checked it out ...it seems it would really help Distros like Suse with their unstable repos system
[14:25] <BenPA> BluesKaj:  lol
[14:25] <hola> i have a problem installin amsn?
[14:25] <gundam_rx78nt1> any pointers?
[14:26] <gundam_rx78nt1> hola: what is the problem?
[14:26] <BenPA> BluesKaj:  I don't use Suse but it works great under (k)ubuntu because they support it
[14:26] <hola> gundam_rx78nt1: after sudo apt-get install amsn it say:
[14:26] <BenPA> BluesKaj:  and with Linux Mint
[14:26] <hola> gundam_rx78nt1: loadin TkCximage failed
[14:26] <Voyage_> how muchdollars will cost me for a minimum dedi server?
[14:28] <BluesKaj> BenPA, linux mint is it a "specialty field " type of distro
[14:28] <BluesKaj> ?
[14:28] <nevoeiro> hola: try installing tcl8.4 and tk8.4 ...
[14:28] <BenPA> BluesKaj:  I found one other report of the same issue with Gusty last year that someone reported but there was no reposnse
[14:28] <BenPA> BluesKaj:  Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu
[14:29] <gundam_rx78nt1> How do I "fall back" on an application that has been upgraded?
[14:29] <BenPA> BluesKaj:  I am converting others to Linux and that distro is the easiest ... I have it installed on 2 other machines that are dual booted
[14:29] <gundam_rx78nt1> for example: I upgraded amarok to 1.4.8 and want to go back to 1.4.7
[14:29] <BluesKaj> gnome desktop eh ?
[14:30] <hola> gundam_rx78nt1: tl8.4 and 8.5 are already installed. The same for tk
[14:31] <BluesKaj> why fasllback gundam_rx78nt1...what's the trouble with amarok 1.4.8 ?
[14:31] <BluesKaj> err fallback
[14:31] <gundam_rx78nt1> BluesKaj: I am still having playback problems.
[14:32] <gundam_rx78nt1> I have followed every instruction/advise on the net
[14:32] <BluesKaj> gundam_rx78nt1, describe the problems
[14:32] <gundam_rx78nt1> and it still "hicups" every 5 to 10 seconds.
[14:32] <gundam_rx78nt1> it plays and then pauses a split seconed for every 5 to 10 seconds.
[14:33] <gundam_rx78nt1> Interrrupting playback.
[14:33] <gundam_rx78nt1> I have already updated libxine1 from 1.1.7 to 1.1.8 but it still did the same thing.
[14:33] <BluesKaj> gundam_rx78nt1, install, or reinstall libxine1-ffmpeg
[14:33] <gundam_rx78nt1> that has already been done numerous times.
[14:33] <nevoeiro> hola: http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4738
[14:34] <gundam_rx78nt1> It was working fine when I had fiesty.
[14:34] <BluesKaj> no gundam_rx78nt1 you need the libxine1-ffmpeg pkg
[14:34] <gundam_rx78nt1> It all went to doodoo once I installed Gutsy.
[14:34] <Arwen> nevoeiro, nice wallpaper
[14:35] <nevoeiro> ?
[14:35] <gundam_rx78nt1> BluesKaj: I already have the libxine1-ffmpeg pkg already installed.
[14:35] <BluesKaj> gundam_rx78nt1, libxine1-ffmpeg is the the required update for amarok 1.4.8
[14:35] <BluesKaj> then uninstall libxine 1.1.8
[14:36] <gundam_rx78nt1> and then?
[14:36] <nevoeiro> this is the link containing the answer to hola's problem
[14:36] <BluesKaj> you should be good to go
[14:36] <nevoeiro> *whatever*
[14:37] <gundam_rx78nt1> BluesKaj: if I uninstall libxine 1.1.8, it removes amarok, kaffiene, and the rest of the xine packages...
[14:37] <gundam_rx78nt1> and if I do that, how do I install an older version?
[14:38] <no1uknow> I'm a newbie... When I reboot, I have certain programs that startup like KTorrent and Terminal Windows... How do I stop KTorrent from opening on Startup?
[14:40] <gundam_rx78nt1> no1uknow: go to your .kde directory and look for Autostart.
[14:40] <BluesKaj> gundam_rx78nt1, perhaps reinstalling them might clear the problem
[14:40] <gundam_rx78nt1> remove it from there.
[14:40] <Marco-basta> I'm not speak England
[14:40] <vzduch> !it | Marco-basta
[14:40] <ubotu> Marco-basta: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[14:41] <no1uknow> gundam_rx78nt1: It is empty
[14:41] <Marco-basta> grazie a te finalmente un po di italiano
[14:41] <hola> nevoeiro: tnks i removed tcl 8.5 and it works
[14:41] <nevoeiro> :)
[14:42] <vzduch> Marco-basta: you better have your English polished up in time because it's probably the most widely used language on the Internet ;)
[14:42] <gundam_rx78nt1> BluesKaj: I  have been reinstalling the following packages for the past 3 days: libxine1, libxine-ffmpeg, amarok-xine, amarok, kaffeine
[14:43] <gundam_rx78nt1> I just don't know what to do... playback on xmms is not affected.  I mean even DVD playback on kaffeine suffers the same problem.
[14:43] <BluesKaj> no1uknow, alt-F2 type or copy and paste this : kdesu konqueror /usr/share/autostart  look for ktorrent and delete it from the file
[14:45] <BluesKaj> !codecs
[14:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[14:46] <no1uknow> BluesKaj: checking this out, one sec
[14:47] <BluesKaj> !restricted
[14:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[14:47] <DiceyDaysx> Anyone know where kde4 dolphin stores it's .trash
[14:49] <tommi_> Hi, I've just installed KDE 4 and everything works fine, except that I've encountered a problem with the sound. When I start my computer and log in straight to KDE 4 the sound doesn't work. I basically have first log in using KDE 3.5, then logout, and then log in to KDE 4 to have sound enabled. Does anyone have an idea what to do or what I've missed? Any help appreciated.
[14:50] <Arwen> !kde4
[14:50] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[14:50] <BluesKaj> gundam_rx78nt1, you have w32codecs , libdvdscss2 , kubuntu-restricted-extras installed ? I must ask the obvious :)
[14:51] <BluesKaj> gundam_rx78nt1, err libdvdcss2
[14:52] <gundam_rx78nt1> the kubuntu-restricted-extras wasn't installed. the rest of them were.
[14:53] <gundam_rx78nt1> brb.  I have to change something on my MB bios
[14:57] <simun> is enyone from croatia?
[14:57] <nosrednaekim> no
[14:58] <jussi01> nosrednaekim: what was the out come of the meeting today?
[14:58] <jussi01> for you specifically ;)
[14:59] <nosrednaekim> jussi01: well, there weren't enough people to conclusively vote me in, I think its waiting for nixternal and couple other's vote
[14:59] <miguel> Hola a tod@s
[14:59] <jussi01> !es | miguel
[14:59] <nosrednaekim> hey miguel
[14:59] <ubotu> miguel: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[14:59] <jussi01> nosrednaekim: cool :D
[15:00] <miguel> Gracias alla voyy ;-)
[15:01] <BluesKaj> !hr
[15:01] <ubotu> za hrvatski dodjite na #ubuntu-hr, da ne zbunjujete engleze.
[15:01] <nosrednaekim> hr?
[15:02] <BluesKaj> aha , see there is botscrpit for croatian
[15:02] <BluesKaj> croatian country domain is "hr"
[15:03] <BluesKaj> that's first time i've seen it requested tho :)
[15:04] <samuel16> Hello everybody I have some problems with downloaded fonts
[15:04] <samuel16> I have a font downloaded from dafont.com
[15:04] <samuel16> and now I don´t know how to import it in Kubuntu
[15:05] <jussi01> !fonts
[15:05] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[15:06] <kaminix> Keep getting sigsegv for the new nspluginviewer update. Have no idea why or anything, how do I bug report it? How do I check for duplicate reports?
[15:07] <nosrednaekim> !bugs
[15:07] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[15:08] <samuel16> Thanks I should try that
[15:09] <john_> hi
[15:10] <jussi01> !hi
[15:10] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[15:10] <tomahasamoot> How can I turn on auto-hide for the cursor?  I want it to disapear while I'm typing.
[15:10] <tomahasamoot> s/cursor/mouse pointer/
[15:11] <john_> where can i find help?
[15:11] <nosrednaekim> tomahasamoot: I think that is in systemsettings->mouse and keyboard
[15:11] <tomahasamoot> I looked there... let me look again
[15:11] <BluesKaj> !ask | john_
[15:11] <ubotu> john_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[15:12] <tomahasamoot> no, it's not there
[15:12] <Arwen> Hey cool, Kwin supports transparency without any of that Composite nonsense.
[15:13] <nosrednaekim> tomahasamoot: hrm, not sure where it would be then...
[15:13] <john_> this is my first time connected. but i only seem to connect to irc. how can i browse the internet. konquerer says it cant connect to host?
[15:14] <nosrednaekim> john_: can you ping things?
[15:14] <john_> yes i can ping
[15:14] <nosrednaekim> john_: try running "ping www.google.com" from a konsole
[15:15] <nosrednaekim> john_: do you have knetworkmanager running?
[15:15] <nosrednaekim> ok
[15:15] <john_> no. should knetworkmanager run?
[15:16] <nosrednaekim> are you sure its not running? there should be an icon for it in the system tray
[15:16] <ubuntu> hi
[15:18] <john_> hmmm. knetworkmanager doesnt seem to do anything when i try and run it
[15:18] <gundam_rx78nt1> BluesKaj: Ok, now I get the "loading of player part 'XinePart' failed. All Video Drivers failed to initialize!
[15:18] <nosrednaekim> run "killall knetworkmanager" from a konsole...
[15:18] <nosrednaekim> john_: ^^
[15:20] <john_> it says: knetworkmanager: no process killed
[15:23] <BluesKaj> gundam_rx78nt1, open kaffeine , make the player engine is kafeine-xine in "settings" if not , then reinstall kaffeine
[15:26] <BluesKaj> gundam_rx78nt1, err make sure the player engine is kaffieine-xine
[15:28] <gundam_rx78nt1> Ok, I am about to through this junk out the 3rd floor window.
[15:29] <gundam_rx78nt1> I want to go back to kaffeine 0.8.3
[15:29] <gundam_rx78nt1> not 0.8.5
[15:29] <gundam_rx78nt1> what do I need to do?
[15:29] <gundam_rx78nt1> BluesKaj: it's the only engine installed.
[15:45] <Ricket> In KDE4 how can I reorganize my Favorites part of my launcher menu thing?
[15:45] <Cavallito> why cyboard repear stops working when I run eclipse :/
[15:45] <Ricket> I add an app to it and the app goes to the bottom of the list and then I can't figure out how to sort the list or change the order at all
[15:46] <Jucato> Ricket: ask in #kubuntu-kde4 but I don't think that's possible yet
[15:46] <PPSD> in KDE3 is there any way to send a command to a konsole window, maybe using dcop?
[15:48] <snarkster> where do i find the config files for my kmenu?
[15:49] <pinepain> PPSD: why do u need such thing
[15:50] <PPSD> pinepain: i want to write script which automatically creates some consolesessions and executes commands in those sessions
[15:51] <pinepain> PPSD: sry, but what kind of script?
[15:51] <pinepain> PPSD: konsole is frontend for shell interpreter
[15:52] <pinepain> PPSD: u probably should write shell (e.g. bash or python) and run it with cron
[15:53] <jduppie> i cant connect to any http protocol. how do i fix this?
[15:53] <PPSD> pinepain: nono i mean the konsole frontend, i want to click a button on which runs s scripts, and a new konsole (the window program) pops up with some sessions open having executed some commands
[15:54] <pinepain> jduppie: any proxies? firewalls? maybe NAT problemm?
[15:54] <PPSD> pinepain: i just figured there is a "sendSession" dcop command but sometimes it is accessible and sometimes not
[15:54] <jduppie> pinepain: im connecting from home through bluetooth
[15:56] <pinepain> PPSD: oh, i see. dcop or dbus will help u, but maybe pass script name as arg?
[15:57] <pinepain> jduppie: does other protocols work fine?
[15:58] <jduppie> pinepain: it looks like i can only connect to irc and thats about it. im new to this, so i dont know if i should start something :)
[15:59] <jduppie> pinpain: when i try and browse through konqueror, it says it cant connect to host. but after about  seconds, the browser updates the little icon to the site i was trying to connect
[16:00] <pinepain> jduppie: try to ping google.com
[16:01] <jduppie> pinepain: i get a reply from google.com
[16:04] <pinepain> jduppie: try to connect using 8080 port or to ssl
[16:06] <pinepain> jduppie: but i think this is not good idea =) i don't remember sites what listen on 8080 or 443
[16:06] <Cavallo> hj
[16:07] <jduppie> pinepain: hehe, ok. i wont try the 8080. the ssl didnt work either
[16:09] <pinepain>  jduppie: emm... u probably have some server with bluetooth, do u?
[16:10] <jduppie> pinepain: not that i know of. this is a fresh install of kubuntu 7.10. the first thing i did after install was create the connection. is there anything else i should set up first before connecting to the net?
[16:12] <jhutchins> jduppie: Usually that's a symptom of either having a proxy configured when you shouldn't, or not having a proxy configured when you should.
[16:12] <jhutchins> Over bluetooth though, who knows.  Could be lag/timeouts.
[16:12] <pinepain> jduppie: dunno, but it looks like NAT | proxy | firewall problemm
[16:13] <pinepain> can u connect from other platforms to :80 port
[16:13] <jduppie> pinepain, jhutchins: thanks guys. i will check if there are any firewall things to disable
[16:13] <pinepain> PPSD: i find that konsole has -e option
[16:14] <pinepain> jduppie: try to connect with ur phone or from other platform (win, mac)
[16:15] <custelinha> ol
[16:15] <custelinha> ola
[16:15] <custelinha> alguem poderi me ajudar
[16:15] <BluesKaj> !pt | custelinha
[16:15] <ubotu> custelinha: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[16:16] <custelinha> como assim
[16:16] <custelinha> ??
[16:16] <jduppie> pinpain: im connected through bluetooth with my nokia. windows works fine
[16:16] <ubuntu> Hi All
[16:16] <pete__> u ok
[16:16] <pete__> hi
[16:16] <pete__> wats goin on
[16:16] <ubuntu> I have a quick question
[16:16] <pete__> ok
[16:16] <BluesKaj> custelinha,  /join #ubuntu-br
[16:17] <ubuntu> I am running on the live disk of an older version of Kubuntu
[16:17] <ubuntu> I think it's 6. something
[16:17] <BluesKaj> 6.04 ?
[16:17] <ubuntu> Yeah, I think that's it
[16:17] <BluesKaj> dapper
[16:17] <ubuntu> If I install this on my HD, can I "update" to 7.10?
[16:17] <pinepain> jduppie: and u can surf on win?
[16:17] <ubuntu> For some reason the ISO is just not creating the image correctly
[16:18] <ubuntu> So can I simply upgrade to it from 6.04?
[16:18] <pinepain>  jduppie: maybe there some auth on server or some rule (i have a mac rule in my net)
[16:18] <jduppie> pinepain: yes i can surf on win. its just kubuntu that i cant. where do you check firewall settings for kubuntu?
[16:18] <pete__> sudo apt-get install update worked from 6.08 to 7.10 for me
[16:18] <BluesKaj> ubuntu, no
[16:19] <ubuntu> Oh, okay
[16:19] <ubuntu> Thanks
[16:19] <BluesKaj> dapper-edgy-feisty-gutsy or do a clean install of gutsy from a live cd or alternat install
[16:20] <pete__> hi
[16:20] <Signil> once i emptied the trash bin is there any way to get the files back?
[16:20] <pinepain>  jduppie: by default u have no firewall
[16:20] <pinepain>  jduppie: why not u just run live CD on ur win pc
[16:21] <pinepain>  jduppie if it ok that 99
[16:21] <jduppie> pinepain: hmmm. im trying get away from windows :)
[16:22] <pinepain>  jduppie: sry, if u connect on win from live cd that 99% auth or other protection
[16:22] <Signil> once i emptied the trash bin is there any way to get the files back?
[16:23] <pinepain> Signil: yuppp
[16:23] <jduppie> pinepain: ok. ill play around and see if i can figure something out. thanks for you help pinepain
[16:23] <abeaudoin> hello
[16:24] <nibbe__> When I connect my Digital camera to my computer nothing happens...
[16:25] <nibbe__> my MP3 and my microSD-cards work, but not my camera. why?
[16:25] <abeaudoin> i have just installed kubuntu 7.1 and i have a bug there a lot of text missing ex when i delete the ok button = _: verb trash
[16:25] <KaSho> he
[16:25] <Signil> kk
[16:28] <pinepain> Signil: btw, u want to delete files forewer or restore deleted data? ;)
[16:28] <Signil> restore !
[16:29] <pinepain> Signil: lol, what is fs type
[16:29]  * BluesKaj waits patiently for pinepain to explain "the how to get trash-deleted files back "
[16:29] <Signil> lol
[16:30] <pinepain> debugfs works for me fine on ext2
[16:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> most aren't using ext2, as i do believe the default is ext3
[16:30] <BluesKaj> what about ex3?
[16:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> next?
[16:31] <pinepain> afaik it works on ext3 =)
[16:32] <pinepain> so u just need to fine all files with not null del time =))
[16:32] <Signil> hmm k
[16:33] <Daisuke_Laptop> so you're still going to lose most of it
[16:33] <pinepain> it doesn't 100% help cause it is possible other files replace/damage deleted ones
[16:33] <pinepain> not at lll
[16:33] <pinepain> at all
[16:34] <pinepain> half a year ago a've done sudo rm -rf ~ =)))
[16:35] <pinepain> with a looooooot of voodoo and google i get back my docs =) but i didn't mess with other stuff like firefox profile, etc
[16:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> do you have several chins?  that's what the smileys are implying :)
[16:39] <pinepain> rofl, no. definitly don't :)
[16:56] <nibbe__> I'm trying to use a program (PicToDS), but it gives me an error saying "Cannot run program '/usr/bin/unrar' (in directory ../bin): java.io.IOException: error=2, No such file or directory". How do i solve it? Already have apt-get installed Unrar.
[16:57] <Jucato> nibbe__: the problem might be in the program (PicToDS) itself (it's java?). you can check if unrar really installed in the correct place: "which unrar"
[16:57] <theTheme> Hey everyone, I updated the kernel headers and it deleted my chainloading information (not the first time, but I've lost the page that I usually go to for that information)  I have been googleing and forum searching and I just can't find it.  Does anyone know what I could add to the boot sequence?  it is like 3 or 4 lines
[16:57] <nibbe__> it's java, yes.
[16:58] <Jucato> !grub | theTheme
[16:58] <ubotu> theTheme: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[16:58] <theTheme> alright! thank you
[16:59] <nibbe__> can't find unrar anywhere, but It has been downloaded
[16:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> if which unrar doesn't give you anything, it hasn't been installed
[17:00] <nibbe__> nibbe@Station:~$ which unrar
[17:00] <nibbe__> /usr/bin/unrar
[17:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> then it's PicToDS's problem
[17:01]  * Jucato nods
[17:01] <BluesKaj> nibbe__,` in the terminal type: unrar , then see if there is any output
[17:02] <nibbe__> there is
[17:02] <BluesKaj> do you have ant .rar files ?
[17:02] <BluesKaj> any
[17:02] <nibbe__> nope
[17:02] <Jucato> well it's installed, in the right place too
[17:03] <nibbe__> gonna re-download pictods
[17:03] <Jucato> so I'm guessing, it's PicToDS
[17:08] <WeedGrinch> !gparted
[17:08] <ubotu> GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[17:09] <WeedGrinch> I need help with Gparted, i open it up, but it wont let me create a new partition, i have over 300 gigs not used
[17:10] <WeedGrinch> do I have to unmount it?
[17:10] <BluesKaj> WeedGrinch, you have shrink the partition first to make room for another , then you can makwe and format the new one
[17:11] <WeedGrinch> I cant do anything to the partition though
[17:11] <BluesKaj> WeedGrinch, are you running the GParted Live CD ?
[17:11] <WeedGrinch> desktop ap
[17:11] <BluesKaj> gotta use the Live CD
[17:11] <WeedGrinch> Im out of blank CD's
[17:12] <WeedGrinch> lol
[17:12] <BluesKaj> you can't resize partitions that you're using
[17:12] <WeedGrinch> :$
[17:12] <WeedGrinch> i feel kinda dumb
[17:13] <BluesKaj> you could try a pen drive if you can make it bootable
[17:13] <WeedGrinch> how would I make it bootable?
[17:13] <BluesKaj> !bootable
[17:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootable - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:13] <WeedGrinch> lol
[17:13] <BluesKaj> heh
[17:14] <WeedGrinch> I have a rewriteable CD
[17:14] <legacy--> why can't i run thunderbird on KDE?
[17:14] <WeedGrinch> so i can just do that
[17:14] <BluesKaj> never done it .. Jucato ?
[17:14] <WeedGrinch> Thanks bluesKaj
[17:19] <LamerMan> hi everyone, i've found gdb 7.1 on one of file servers for apt/sources.list, but i'm not sure that the source is reliable enough. Could you suggest me some secure server that may contain the latest version of debuggers, compilers?
[17:20] <biovore> gnu.org
[17:20] <LamerMan> i mean some server with deb packages
[17:20] <LamerMan> not to compile it
[17:20] <NickPresta> LamerMan, what's wrong with gdb in the repos?
[17:21] <biovore> he wants bleeding edge I think..
[17:21] <LamerMan> i'm not sure that it does not contain trojans
[17:21] <biovore> the repos are as secure as your going to get
[17:21] <biovore> http://packages.ubuntu.org
[17:21] <NickPresta> LamerMan, if you want bleeding edge but you're afraid to use other repos or publicly created debs, you have to compile.
[17:21] <biovore> or security.ubuntu.org
[17:22] <AMcBain> Nope, nothing to complain about this time. I got my Thunderbird profile to work under Kubuntu. I had to chmod rx permissions to all groups and chown the files to me (may not have been necessary) ...
[17:22] <AMcBain> So I'm quite happy.
[17:22] <NickPresta> You can always use checkinstall to create a deb for installation.
[17:22] <biovore> If you making your own tool-chain for something.. your better of with sources..
[17:23] <LamerMan> NickPresta, i believe there must be some official repositories with such gdb version. on official it's vey unlikely to contain some viruses
[17:23] <NickPresta> LamerMan, the official repository of which you speak has gdb version 6.6, I believe
[17:26] <biovore> latest gdb from gnu.org is 6.7
[17:26] <LamerMan> i was mistaken, there IS gdb 6.7 in official repositories, but when i perform "apt-get update", i can't see this version in aptitude. What's wrong? :)
[17:27] <Dagaka> can I install KDE 4.0.1 of kubuntu-desktop on an normal ubuntu 7.10 install?
[17:27] <LamerMan> in my aptitude there is only gdb 6.6
[17:27] <biovore> have to install kubuntu-desktop then kde4 stuff.. but yes.. you can run gnome and kde on the same box
[17:28] <NickPresta> LamerMan, in the official Ubuntu repositories, there is only version 6.6 available. 6.7 is not available yet.
[17:28] <LamerMan> http://ru.archive.ubuntu.com contains 6.7.1
[17:28] <Dagaka> ok thanks biovore, so once I've installed kubuntu-desktop I just follow the instructions from here: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php ?
[17:28] <LamerMan> is it not official?
[17:29] <biovore> I think its not in there because is not part of the development tool-chain
[17:29] <LamerMan> how could i install it then?
[17:31] <biovore> gdb 6.6 vs 6.7 only realy has fixes for sparc and ppc in it..  Not much else.. unless you have problems with 6.6 for some reason.. 6.7 probably won't make a differance.
[17:32] <NickPresta> LamerMan, you can install it via this deb file (http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gdb/gdb_6.7.1-2ubuntu1_i386.deb). However, I don't know what additional or changed depends it has from 6.6 (if any) so use at own risk, since your package manager doesn't think you need to upgrade.
[17:33] <compaq1> test
[17:34] <LamerMan> NickPresta, thanks, if it can't install it by aptitude i will install it in theis way, but is there really no way to install it correctly? why aptitude does not the 6.7.1 version?
[17:35] <LamerMan> why aptitude does not *list the 6.7.1 version?
[17:36]  * BluesKaj suspects ultra-caution is LamerMan's philosophy 
[17:36] <LamerMan> :)
[17:37] <biovore> 6.7.1 is probably in testing
[17:39] <LamerMan> biovore is aptitude able to distinguish test versions?
[17:39] <BluesKaj> LamerMan, I'm just curious ...have you been "burned" by keylogging or rootkits or ... ?
[17:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> BluesKaj: what brought on that question?
[17:45] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Laptop, LamerMan's ultra caution
[17:45] <BluesKaj> and is there something we should know :)
[17:47] <hsn_> i need to increase maximum size of shared memory, how to do that?
[17:47] <sigma_1234> where is the hardy release schedule?
[17:48] <gyakubov> Hi there...
[17:48] <gyakubov> Is that possibile to install KDE 4 on Ubuntu 6.10 ?
[17:49] <sigma_1234> prob not as the packages are for gutsy
[17:50]  * Signil is away: Gone away for now.
[17:50] <songoku> hola buenos dias
[17:50] <gyakubov> thnx Sigma. Do U know where to find instructions?
[17:50] <coreymon77> songoku: you speak english?
[17:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> gyakubov: you'd be well served by upgrading at least to feisty, as edgy will no longer be supported as of april
[17:50] <songoku> no
[17:51] <coreymon77> !es | songoku
[17:51] <ubotu> songoku: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[17:51] <Daisuke_Laptop> songoku: but you understood that question
[17:51] <songoku> soy new in linux kubuntu
[17:51] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Laptop: many people who dont speak english understand "do you speak english"
[17:51] <songoku> tanks you ubuntu
[17:51] <gyakubov> unable to upgrade to feisty for unknown reason ???
[17:52] <sub[t]rnl> !away > Signil
[17:52] <gyakubov> update manager shows no option for that
[17:52] <coreymon77> gyakubov: well you do have to add the repositories for it first
[17:52] <sub[t]rnl> !upgrade | gyakubov
[17:52] <LamerMan> btw, i have default kubuntu installation (i'm new to linux), i didn't set anything (just default configuration), only root password at the very beginning. Is there some other accounts on my system that could be used remotely? some guests, nobodies?
[17:52] <ubotu> gyakubov: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[17:53] <gyakubov> tnx
[17:53] <sub[t]rnl> LamerMan➜ not without an exploit.
[17:53] <coreymon77> LamerMan: default installation gives you two accounts, root and your user account
[17:53] <coreymon77> LamerMan: any others you have to make for yourself
[17:54] <sub[t]rnl> there is no root account by default
[17:54] <coreymon77> LamerMan: yes, you cant actually login as root unless you enable that
[17:54] <coreymon77> LamerMan: you can only use sudo within your user account (which i think is better personally)
[17:55] <coreymon77> sub[t]rnl: there is always a root accoount, you just cant actually log in as in unless you enable it
[17:55] <sub[t]rnl> no, there is an administrative group
[17:55] <sub[t]rnl> that a user can gain access too via sudoers
[17:56] <sub[t]rnl> !root | coreymon77y
[17:56] <ubotu> coreymon77y: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[17:56] <flo_> does anyone have a little experience with kde4? if so, do you know how to reset the default settings (I tried removing the .kde4 folder but that didn't work)
[17:56] <coreymon77> sub[t]rnl: ive been using kubuntu for 6 years now, i know how sudo works
[17:56] <LamerMan> sub[t]rnl, coreymon77 thanks, i've been told that someone have installed squid on my computer. i don't really believe it :) i think he's jocking... there's no squid at all (locate squid), but i'm new to linux, i'm just afraid i didn't configure something that could let it happen (no taking account of exploits)
[17:57] <coreymon77> LamerMan: dont worry, without root capabilites, they cant do anything harmful anyways
[17:57] <cafka> how to change apache2 network interface from eth0 to eth1 ????
[17:58] <sub[t]rnl> flo_➜ renaming your ~/.kde4 folder should restore default.  (i wouldn't delete it, unless your positive there is nothing in there you need)
[17:58] <flo_> that's actually what I did
[17:58] <flo_> but somehow a new .kde4 folder got created instantly
[17:59] <sub[t]rnl> it does, kde creates it
[17:59] <sub[t]rnl> you need to restart x afterwards
[17:59] <flo_> yeah, I did that too
[18:00] <flo_> I installed kde4 when it was still in alpha, and I had the problem that the panel at the bottom completely disappeared, and I haven't been able to get it back
[18:00] <sub[t]rnl> try running 	plasma
[18:01] <sub[t]rnl> flo_➜ #kubuntu-kde4 will probably be more appropriate for you.
[18:01] <cafka> how to change apache2 network interface from eth0 to eth1 ???? can i ???
[18:01] <flo_> oh, I didn't know about that channel
[18:02] <flo_> thank you sub[t]rnl
[18:05] <pinepain> cafka: what??? 0_o
[18:06] <cafka> pinepain, i want to change the apache network interface from eth0 to eth1..
[18:06] <pinepain> cafka: i've read it, but why
[18:07] <coreymon77> cafka: does eth0 work?
[18:07] <llutz> cafka: set ist listening to your eth1-ip-adress
[18:07] <llutz> ist=it
[18:07] <cafka> let say u have laptop and u have wired lan on eth0 and wifi on eth1 and the cable is not connected..
[18:08] <coreymon77> cafka: wired and wifi have to be on different interfaces
[18:08] <llutz> iirc apache listens on adresses not devices
[18:08] <cafka> coreymon77, eth0 dont work thats the point.. for that i want to change it
[18:08] <coreymon77> okay
[18:08] <pinepain> cafka: read this http://www.ssi.bg/~ja/nano.txt
[18:08] <cafka> llutz, no.. u're wrong i change it the address but notning..
[18:09] <llutz> have you restarted apache?
[18:09] <cafka> llutz,  yeap
[18:10] <cafka> everything is coz the interface
[18:10] <coreymon77> cafka: wired ethernet and wifi cannot be on the same interface, then neither of them will work
[18:11] <cafka> i know
[18:11] <cafka> wired is eth0 and wifi eth1
[18:11] <cafka> apache is configured for eth0 not eth1
[18:11] <coreymon77> oh
[18:11] <coreymon77> now i get it
[18:13] <llutz> cafka: what is your "Listen" entry in the config now?
[18:13] <cafka> localhost
[18:14] <cafka> coreymon77, something to recomend?
[18:14] <pinepain> cafka: work around $ man interfaces
[18:14] <llutz> cafka: you have to change that to eth1-ip adress
[18:15] <cafka> llutz, eth1 and eth0 have same ip :)
[18:15] <llutz> cafka: that cannot work
[18:15] <llutz> or do you use bridged devices?
[18:15] <cafka> no..
[18:15] <cafka> they have same ip.
[18:15] <llutz> cafka: read apache-documentation and off course some tcp/ip basics
[18:16] <shaffy> does anyone know how to change the color of pop-up balloons (msgs that show when mouse is hovered over something)?  both the color of the background and text in mine are white, rendering them unreadable.
[18:16] <cafka> clear
[18:16] <sudo> How to come into system as root? When I enter password system answers 'You can't...as root'
[18:17] <coreymon77> sudo: you cant come log in as root
[18:17] <coreymon77> sudo: that is disabled by default and is highly not reccomended
[18:17] <coreymon77> sudo: just use sudo
[18:17] <shaffy> does anyone know how to change the color of pop-up balloons (msgs that show when mouse is hovered over something)?  both the color of the background and text in mine are white, rendering them unreadable.
[18:17] <sudo> Then how can I save changes in file?
[18:17] <coreymon77> sudo: huh?
[18:17] <coreymon77> sudo: what do you want to do
[18:18] <sudo> It is read-only
[18:18] <SlimeyPete> sudo: use sudo or kdesu when opening it
[18:18] <SlimeyPete> !sudo
[18:18] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[18:18] <SlimeyPete> !kdesu
[18:18] <ubotu> In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[18:18] <bmk789> why would lsusb randomly show my webcam?  some reboots it shows and some it doesnt exist
[18:18] <coreymon77> sudo: what are you trying to do
[18:19] <coreymon77> sudo: what file are we talking here
[18:19] <sudo> I want to add "alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel" to /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[18:20] <coreymon77> sudo: and what distro are you using (feisty, gutsy, dapper...)
[18:20] <sudo> coreymon77: ?
[18:21] <coreymon77> sudo: are you using feisty, gutsy, dapper, edgy
[18:21] <sudo> What is it?
[18:21] <coreymon77> sudo: what version of kubuntu are you using
[18:21] <sudo> text editors?
[18:21] <coreymon77> sudo: no, kubuntu
[18:21] <sudo> kubuntu 7.10...
[18:21] <coreymon77> sudo: oh, okay
[18:22] <coreymon77> sudo: thats gutsy
[18:22] <SlimeyPete> sudo: press alt-f2 then "kdesu kate /etc/modprobe.d/aliases"
[18:22] <coreymon77> SlimeyPete: wrong
[18:22] <coreymon77> SlimeyPete: in gutsy is kdesudo
[18:22] <SlimeyPete> oh right
[18:22] <coreymon77> sudo: open a terminal
[18:22] <coreymon77> sudo: and type kdesudo kate /etc/modprode.d/aliases
[18:23] <coreymon77> then type your root password when asked
[18:23] <coreymon77> that will open kate with root privileges
[18:23] <sudo> Thanks!
[18:23] <coreymon77> sudo: no problem
[18:26] <Tarin> what do i do if i lose my nick pasword
[18:27] <coreymon77> Tarin: what, your nickserv password
[18:27] <coreymon77> ?
[18:28] <Tarin> yeah
[18:28] <coreymon77> Tarin: dont
[18:28] <cafka> ppl how to see what drivers i have on my network devices???
[18:28] <Tarin> lol
[18:28] <ubuntu_> Hey, I'm having trouble with my grub
[18:28] <coreymon77> Tarin: simple as that
[18:28] <coreymon77> cafka: you mean what drivers are being detected?
[18:29] <Kieren1> I've installed Kubuntu over an instalation of Ubuntu and my grub hasn't been updated
[18:29] <coreymon77> Kieren1: kubuntu and ubuntu are not different oses
[18:29] <cafka> coreymon77 yes
[18:29] <coreymon77> Kieren1: they are the same
[18:29] <Kieren1> I know but it wont load
[18:29] <coreymon77> Kieren1: just select kde at the login screen
[18:29] <Kieren1> Neither will Windows, which wasn't reinstalled
[18:30] <llutz> cafka: check "dmsg"
[18:30] <Tarin> are you getting an error when you try to load windows?
[18:30] <llutz> cafka: check "dmesg"
[18:31] <Kieren1> Yeah, something about not able to load
[18:31] <bmk789> lsusb wont show my webcam at all, what gives?
[18:31] <Tarin> Kieren1: not able to load OS or something to that affect
[18:31] <Kieren1> Yeah
[18:31] <rgreening> update-usbids
[18:31] <rgreening> then try again
[18:31] <Tarin> your bootconfig file is corrupt
[18:31] <Kieren1> Same with Windows and Ubuntu
[18:32] <Kieren1> How do I reinstall that?
[18:32] <Tarin> Kieren1: are you using 2 disks or one disk with 2 partitions
[18:32] <Kieren1> 1 disk 2 partitions
[18:32] <rgreening> Kieren1: Use a live CD and then you will need to chroot
[18:32] <Kieren1> And 1for swap
[18:33] <Kieren1> I'm on the live CD now
[18:33] <rgreening> man chroot
[18:33] <Tarin> you may also need a windows disk to access the recovery console and edit the boot config file
[18:34] <hyper_ch> where can I find the restricted driver's manager?
[18:34] <rgreening> Kieren1: was Grub your boot manager or Window
[18:34] <llutz> hyper_ch: install restricted-manager-kde
[18:35] <Tarin> hyper_ch:can you get to it via sys settings and then the advanced tab?
[18:35] <jan-gerrit> retep94
[18:35] <Kieren1> Boot manager I think
[18:35] <hyper_ch> thx
[18:35] <Kieren1> Not to sure about grub stuff
[18:36] <Tarin> Kieren1: well when u booted and it worked what kind of screen did u getto give you choices for booting?
[18:36] <rgreening> Kieren1: was kubuntu installed second or did you install windows after kubuntu
[18:36] <Kieren1> rgreening: I installed Windows then Ubuntu
[18:36] <Tarin> Kieren1: did it list the kubuntu first then windows under it
[18:37] <Kieren1> Which worked, then I installed Kubuntu as a fresh install over Ubuntu last night
[18:37] <Tarin> Kieren1: did it list the kubuntu first then windows under it
[18:37] <rgreening> huh?
[18:37] <hyper_ch> is there a reason why restricted driver maanger won't be installed by default on kubuntu?
[18:37] <Kieren1> It lists Ubuntu, then Windows
[18:37] <Tarin> then grub was your boot manager
[18:38] <SlimeyPete> hyper_ch: it's a GTK app
[18:38] <Kieren1> Okay
[18:38] <SlimeyPete> so it's meant for GNOME, really.
[18:38] <llutz> SlimeyPete:  restricted-manager-kde   a gtk-app?
[18:38] <hyper_ch> SlimeyPete: sounds to me like a qt app ;)
[18:38] <rgreening> SlimeyPete : there's a kde version
[18:39] <SlimeyPete> oh right
[18:39] <Tarin> Kieren1: i had the same issue but i cant remember how i fixed it
[18:39] <Xbehave> is there  a qt equivelent of miro? and is there anyway i can get my firefox3 install to count as firefox?
[18:39] <Tarin> but i made sure afterwards i used 2 diff disks
[18:39] <Kieren1> :(
[18:40] <Tarin> that way you can remove one and the machine should default to whatever disk is still installed
[18:40] <anon32> Xbehave, yes, when you compile firefox3, add a line in the debian control "Provides: firefox"
[18:40] <Tarin> have you googled this yet?
[18:40] <Kieren1> Yeah, tried a few things and haven't gotten anywhere yet
[18:40] <hyper_ch> llutz: is the rest. man. not listed anymore in hardy?
[18:41] <Xbehave> anon32, i didnt compile it i simply installed the tar, is there a way without compiling?
[18:41] <anon32> err, no. You're trying to cheat the packaging system...
[18:41] <llutz> hyper_ch: #ubuntu+1  not hardy here
[18:42] <Xbehave> !ot
[18:42] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[18:43] <Tarin> Kieren1: do you have a windows disk?
[18:43] <Kieren1> Yeah
[18:44] <Xbehave> anon32 is there a way to tell it to ignore the fact firefox or override it?
[18:44] <anon32> Xbehave, tell what?
[18:45] <anon32> you could make a fake package called firefox (with no files) and install that.
[18:45] <Xbehave> ah good idea thnx
[18:45] <Tarin> boot from it and when it gives you the option for recovery console go into that and type this "fdisk /mbr" without the quotes
[18:45] <Tarin> it wont hurt anything but it may help
[18:45] <NickPresta> Xbehave, why not pin the firefox package from ever being installed? http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html (Bottom, pin section)
[18:46] <Tarin> there is also a command called fixmbr try that as well
[18:46] <Kieren1> Okay
[18:46] <Kieren1> I'll give it a go
[18:46] <Kieren1> Thanks, i'll let you know how it goes
[18:46] <Tarin> just out of curiosity why did u try to install kubuntu over ubuntu
[18:46] <Tarin> ok
[18:47] <Kieren1> Well I don't like Gnome, I've dont use it
[18:47] <Tarin> ahhhhhh
[18:47] <Kieren1> And I was doing an install so I just put Kubuntu on
[18:47] <Kieren1> I dont use it*
[18:47] <Tarin> is it gutsy?
[18:47] <Kieren1> Yeah
[18:48] <Tarin> ok yeah give those a try and let me know
[18:48] <Kieren1> Will do
[18:48] <Kieren1> Thanks
[18:48] <Tarin> also get exact copies of any errors
[18:48] <Kieren1> Will do
[18:49] <sudo> In which config can I change my (I don't know this word in English... 1120*840 try to guess what is it)?)
[18:50] <Tarin> resolution
[18:50] <anon32> resolution? it's under display settings
[18:50] <Tarin> sys settings then display settings
[18:53] <Schuenemann> hey, where does firefox save temporary files?
[18:53] <anon32> .mozilla/firefox/something/somedir
[18:54] <llutz> temp-files in /tmp
[18:54] <anon32> the cache constitutes temp files too
[18:54] <Schuenemann> it doesn't seem to be either
[18:55] <anon32> what are you looking for?
[18:55] <Schuenemann> well, the cache is so small
[18:55] <Schuenemann> some pictures
[18:55] <anon32> last I checked, cached files have no extension so it'd be hard to find em either way.
[18:56] <llutz> Schuenemann: "about:cache?device=disk"   in adress-line, maybe it helps
[18:56] <Schuenemann> yep, but there are few files anyway
[18:56] <Schuenemann> konqueror can preview the images
[18:56] <michaelrob> hey, can anyone help me install firefox? I downloaded it and extracted but can't make it install and it's greyed out in adept
[18:56] <Schuenemann> it's not there though... isn't there a directory like windoze & IE with thousands of files?
[18:57] <Schuenemann> michaelrob, use apt-get
[18:57] <llutz> michaelrob: sudo aptitude install firefox
[18:57] <anon32> yes, in your profile under Cache. But depending on your settings the amount of stuff there will differ
[18:58] <Schuenemann> llutz, cool
[18:58] <Schuenemann> llutz, but that isn't local
[18:59] <michaelrob> i did the aptitude command and it didn't need seem to do anything, says "Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)"
[18:59] <anon32> is adept running?
[18:59] <anon32> and if not, see !adeptfix
[18:59] <michaelrob> yes
[19:00] <michaelrob> ok, closed adept and now it says "
[19:00] <michaelrob> No candidate version found for firefox
[19:00] <michaelrob> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[19:01] <llutz> it's in main, so check your sources.list
[19:01] <michaelrob> how do I do that? I'm completely new to linux
[19:01] <llutz> michaelrob: what does "apt-cache policy firefox |grep -i insta"  give out?
[19:02] <michaelrob> Installed: (none)
[19:02] <llutz> michaelrob: how did you install kubuntu and which version (lsb_release -a)?
[19:03] <michaelrob> it's the alternate cd, 7.10
[19:03] <llutz> firefox should have  been installed...
[19:03] <michaelrob> i ran into problems on the install when it was "searching and installing software" or something ot that effect, i had to skip it and manually download hte kubuntu desktop at the command prompt
[19:04] <llutz> michaelrob: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to !pastebin plz
[19:04] <llutz> !pastebin
[19:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[19:05] <Tarin> michaelrob: i may have missed this but did u try to get firefox from the site itself thats how installed it
[19:06] <michaelrob> i downloaded it from mozilla but can't get that to run either, i clicked the firefox shell script and it didnt work
[19:06] <michaelrob> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55404/
[19:06] <llutz> you should install it from repo if possible
[19:06] <Tarin> ahhhhh
[19:06] <llutz> michaelrob: ah broken
[19:06] <llutz> !sources
[19:07] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[19:07] <Tarin> thats not much of a surces list
[19:07] <michaelrob> indeed
[19:08] <anon32> is there a way to use the fonts from my Windows installation rather than the (unreliable) msttcorefonts package?
[19:08] <llutz> !repo
[19:08] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[19:08] <BluesKaj> michaelrob, i hate to ask the obvious but did you check adept for Firefox?
[19:08] <michaelrob> it's greyed out and unclickable
[19:08] <llutz> BluesKaj: his sources.list is broken, just cdrom-entry
[19:09] <llutz> BluesKaj: do you have a link for a gutsy sources.list?
[19:09] <BluesKaj> I'll post mine in pastebin , it's pretty standard
[19:10] <Tarin> i would post mine but its not vrey standard lol
[19:10] <llutz> mine too, but german-localized :)
[19:11] <Tarin> yeah probably more trouble than its worth to use yours lol
[19:11] <BluesKaj> llutz, michaelrob : http://www.pastebin.ca/897675
[19:12] <llutz> michaelrob: take that list and save it to /etc/apt/sources.list   after saving: sudo aptitude update
[19:12] <BluesKaj> except michaelrob it uses canadian sources
[19:13] <michaelrob> when i save it says i dont have write access
[19:13] <Tarin> you need to do it as root
[19:14] <Tarin> you can use sudo or open a root konsole window. i prefer to sudo EVERYTHING
[19:14] <michaelrob> got it
[19:14] <BluesKaj> michaelrob, don't forget to save the file and also you will need to do : sudo apt-get update in the terminal afrerwards
[19:14] <llutz> Tarin:  "sudo EVERYTHING" is a really bad idea
[19:15] <Tarin> really? i dont want to get used to doing things as root
[19:15] <Tarin> what should i not sudo
[19:15] <BluesKaj> llutz oops din't see you r text there
[19:15] <llutz> Tarin: if you sudo everything, it is like working as root
[19:15] <Tarin> sorry i should have been more clear
[19:16] <Tarin> i meant only things i HAVE to sudo
[19:16] <llutz> ^^ ok
[19:16] <Tarin> lol
[19:16] <Ukrainian_Dragon> Hiall
[19:16] <Tarin> yeah if its root it not required i wont use it
[19:16] <fivetwentysix2> how do i add my self to a group?
[19:17] <fivetwentysix2> I want to add my self to the www-data group
[19:17] <fivetwentysix2> because i did chown root:www-data to my /var/www folder
[19:17] <llutz>  fivetwentysix2 sudo adduser <your-username> group
[19:17] <fivetwentysix2> thank you!
[19:17] <pain> Hello all
[19:18] <Tarin> hello
[19:18] <BluesKaj> michaelrob, once you are used to editing the sources.list , you may want to look for repositories closer to your location
[19:18] <fivetwentysix2> llutz when do these changes have an affect?
[19:18] <fivetwentysix2> llutz: When I restart my computer?
[19:18] <michaelrob> ok
[19:18] <llutz> fivetwentysix2: after relogin
[19:18] <pain> omg im trying to install team speak, and i readed all the web sites looking for help
[19:18] <michaelrob> canada isn't tooo bad
[19:18] <llutz> fivetwentysix2: no need ffor reboot
[19:18] <fivetwentysix2> llutz: Okay thanks!
[19:19] <pain> i used sudo -i, then sudo make install ... and install ...
[19:19] <pain> nothing works :/
[19:19] <fivetwentysix2> Does wget support download resuming?
[19:19] <pain> how can i install team speak on the kubuntu ?
[19:19] <Voyage_> how to install inspircd by package manager?
[19:19] <llutz> michaelrob: have you done the update? then try " sudo aptitude install firefox "again
[19:19] <michaelrob> i already installed FF
[19:19] <michaelrob> worked great
[19:20] <Tarin> good deal
[19:20] <pain> :S
[19:20] <Tarin> sorry pain i dont know about that one
[19:20] <Tarin> !teamspeak
[19:20] <pain> -.-'''
[19:20] <ubotu> Teamspeak is the proprietry VoIP software see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TeamSpeak  For a open source alternative consider using Mumble http://mumble.sourceforge.net/
[19:20] <fivetwentysix2> pain
[19:20] <biovore> goto teamspeak's site and download it..
[19:20] <pain> ;)
[19:21] <michaelrob> i also think I have a problem with my video driver, I think I have inegreated ATI and when  Imove windows around they leave trails, Is that normal?
[19:21] <pain> yes
[19:21] <fivetwentysix2> pain: sudo apt-get install teamspeak-client
[19:21] <pain> i have the gr2 file
[19:21] <llutz> !ati
[19:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[19:21] <llutz> michaelrob: ^^
[19:21] <pain> and already extract it
[19:21] <pain> *br2
[19:21] <Tarin> manual update to gutsy takes tooooo loooong lol
[19:21] <biovore> pain: but beware.. if you don't have a sound card that can do HW mixing.. TeamSpeak probably going to suck... (SB Live or Audigy(2/4) card)
[19:21] <fivetwentysix2> pain: sudo apt-get install teamspeak-client
[19:22] <pain> k thanks
[19:22] <Tarin> are ati drivers restricted?
[19:22] <michaelrob> i don't see a "restricted driver manager"
[19:23] <fivetwentysix2> Tarin: i believe they are open source
[19:23] <Tarin> oh cool i use nvidia but i was curious
[19:23] <BluesKaj> michaelrob, you may want to replace the sources.list that I just posted with this one : http://www.pastebin.ca/897693
[19:23] <pain> ... E: couldnt find package teamspeak-clien fivetwentysix2 :/
[19:23] <fivetwentysix2> pain: client.
[19:23] <bmk789> what should i use to record video with sound from a webcam
[19:23] <fivetwentysix2> pain: you had a typo
[19:24] <pain> ys
[19:24] <pain> yes
[19:24] <pain> i did client
[19:24] <Tarin> blueskaj: whats the diff
[19:24] <llutz> michaelrob: install "restricted-manager-kde" and look into advanced-systemsettings after
[19:24] <fivetwentysix2> pain go into console
[19:24] <pain> yes
[19:25] <pain> i am there was a root
[19:25] <fivetwentysix2> tye sudo apt-get install teamspeak and press tab twice
[19:25] <BluesKaj> Tarin, the previous list was canadian repos which may filter foreign ISPs
[19:25] <fivetwentysix2> type*
[19:25] <Tarin> ahhhhh
[19:25] <Tarin> gotcha
[19:25] <fivetwentysix2> pain if you don't see it
[19:25] <BluesKaj> Tarin, sometimes they're a bit slow as well
[19:25] <acee1234> everything involving video or effects is choppy on my computer (flash playback on the web, movies, compiz effects, even typing is lagged) any ideas?
[19:26] <Tarin> ya know why cant everyone just get along and let everyone use the same internet the same way
[19:26] <pain> well im doing that.... but
[19:26] <pain> stills the same
[19:26] <fivetwentysix2> pain: teamspeak-client is in the multiverse/net repository. Confirm that you have enabled that required repository
[19:26] <pain> k
[19:27] <fivetwentysix2> pain: you're using adept right?
[19:27] <michaelrob> so back to my video problem, the windows leave trails when I drag them that go away after a second but they are annoying and I can't find the "restrctited driver manager" at the link given
[19:27] <pain> yes
[19:27] <fivetwentysix2> pain: Since you're using kubuntu go into adept
[19:27] <fivetwentysix2> Then at the top menu click adept and manage repositories
[19:27] <Voyage_> how to install inspircd by package manager?
[19:27] <fivetwentysix2> Check Software restricted by copyright or legal issues (multiverse)
[19:28] <Tarin> michaelrob: do you have any desktop effects installed and/or turned on
[19:28] <michaelrob> not that I know of
[19:28] <pain> you mean view then manage repositories
[19:28] <fivetwentysix2> yes
[19:28] <pain> im there
[19:28] <fivetwentysix2> Check Software restricted by copyright or legal issues (multiverse)
[19:28] <fivetwentysix2> then apply
[19:28] <fivetwentysix2> or close
[19:28] <fivetwentysix2> then you should see teamspeak-client
[19:28] <Tarin> michaelrob: if you go to kmenu and settings near the top is anything listed
[19:29] <Ralesk> hi all
[19:29] <germ_> yo
[19:29] <Ralesk> There's this plugin called opensync-plugin-kdepim but it doesn't do anything to Kontact for example...
[19:29] <fivetwentysix2> pain: find it?
[19:29] <pain> :/ well i cant see that
[19:29] <michaelrob> kmenu>system settings?
[19:29] <rodolfo> alguien de Argentina?
[19:30] <Tarin> no just settings
[19:30] <pain> i cant find the Check Software restricted
[19:30] <fivetwentysix2> pain: did you check multiverse?
[19:30] <pain> i can send you a pint screen or something
[19:30] <michaelrob> i dont see "settings" in the kmenu
[19:30] <pain> no
[19:30] <fivetwentysix2> it's in manage reposirtories
[19:30] <Tarin> ok
[19:30] <pain> yes im there :S
[19:30] <Ralesk> (thing is, I have a Moto Z8 and I'd love to be able to sync without rebooting to Windows all the time; and people seem to say it's SyncML compatible, but I'd love to have a decent frontend for that...)
[19:31] <llutz> Ralesk: try kitchensync
[19:31] <fivetwentysix2> and the first tab is Kubuntu software correct?
[19:31] <X314> whats the command to configure X in terminal?
[19:31] <fivetwentysix2> pain in adept
[19:31] <pain> yes
[19:31] <Ralesk> it's installed with kdepim, but what do I run to run it?  there's no kitchensync binary
[19:31] <pain> im there then i click view and pressed manage repository
[19:31] <llutz> Ralesk: but don't be disappointed if it doesn't work. I gave up to sync my Nokia-phone
[19:32] <Tarin> michaelrob: ok do kmenu>sys settings>window behavior
[19:32] <michaelrob> ok, i'm there
[19:32] <pain> maybe i should go back to windows.... im sick of cant do nothing on this, i did installed teamspeak and a game on debian
[19:32] <pain> but i cant here :S
[19:32] <Tarin> click the moving tab
[19:32] <michaelrob> k
[19:33] <Tarin> and tell me what is NOT checked
[19:33] <pain> sry for be so lame
[19:33] <fivetwentysix2> pain: ...
[19:33] <acee1234> everything involving video or effects is choppy on my computer (flash playback on the web, movies, compiz effects, even typing is lagged) any ideas?
[19:33] <fivetwentysix2> pain: You're not helping me help you..
[19:33] <pain> kk sry
[19:33] <pain> about that
[19:33] <michaelrob> "display window geometry..." , "allow mocing and resizing..." and "Snap windows only..."
[19:33] <fivetwentysix2> pain: When you see software sources after clicking manage repositories
[19:33] <pain> its hard to cant see whats in front of me
[19:33] <fivetwentysix2> pain: You'll see the tab kubuntu software.
[19:33] <Tarin> pain: dont get discouraged i moved from Win and it took me a good 3 months to really get the hang of it
[19:33] <SlimeyPete> acee1234: try installing the restricted drivers, if there are any for your graphics card?
[19:33] <fivetwentysix2> pain: there's a box downloadable from the internet
[19:34] <Tarin> i got everything i needed to know from these guys
[19:34] <fivetwentysix2> pain: and then there's a bunch of things you can check
[19:34] <acee1234> SlimeyPete:  i did
[19:34] <fivetwentysix2> pain: the forth item that u can check says, Software restricted by copyright or legal issues (multiverse)
[19:34] <fivetwentysix2> pain: Do you see it?
[19:34] <pain> im using kubuntu 6 version btw
[19:34] <fivetwentysix2> oh!
[19:34] <Tarin> michaelrob: try removing the x in show contents when moving
[19:35] <Tarin> pain: that is very helpful info
[19:35] <pain> so thats why i cant see that ?
[19:35] <pain> sry i should had sayd that before
[19:35] <michaelrob> well, no trails but no content when moving the window either, lol
[19:35] <acee1234> SlimeyPete: rebooting ...
[19:35] <pain> but well what version should i get
[19:35] <fivetwentysix2> pain: 1 second.
[19:35] <pain> kubuntu, ubuntu ?
[19:35] <Tarin> how good is your system
[19:35] <pain> kk
[19:36] <michaelrob> this one is a bit old, integrating grpahics, 3ghz cpu, 512mb ram
[19:36] <fivetwentysix2> Ok
[19:36] <Ralesk> llutz: so, where do I find kitchensync?  all I know is that it's on my system, nothing more :/
[19:36] <fivetwentysix2> open up console
[19:36] <pain> i only want to use team-speak and a game called wolf enemy territory
[19:36] <pain> k
[19:36] <pain> im there
[19:36] <llutz> Ralesk: alt-f2: kitchensync
[19:36] <fivetwentysix2> pain: type sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.lst
[19:36] <fivetwentysix2> sorry
[19:36] <fivetwentysix2> pain: type sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:36] <fivetwentysix2> pain: not lst :-)
[19:36] <Tarin> michaelrob: hmmmm that should be plenty to run this. what resolution and monitor size
[19:37] <fivetwentysix2> pain: Have you done that?
[19:37] <pain> yes
[19:37] <pain> cannot connect to X server
[19:37] <pain> :S
[19:37] <Ralesk> llutz: oh great, I see it wasn't even installed -- good that the apt-cache show description says it's *part of kdepim* :P  installing now
[19:37] <fivetwentysix2> pain: What can't connect to the X server?
[19:37] <pain> it says Kate: cannot connect to X server
[19:37] <nosrednaekim> !kdesudo | fivetwentysix2
[19:38] <ubotu> fivetwentysix2: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[19:38] <michaelrob> monitor is around 15" lcd, the resolution is 1280x1024
[19:38] <Voyage_> icant find one.  theres no repository that gives inspircd?
[19:38] <fivetwentysix2> nosrednaekim: i told him to sudo kate so he can modify his sources.list file
[19:38] <fivetwentysix2> ...
[19:38] <nosrednaekim> fivetwentysix2: use kdesudo for graphical apps
[19:38] <Tarin> michaelrob: have you tried a slightly lower res? is that the native res for that monitor?
[19:39] <pain> so what should i do guys ?
[19:39] <fivetwentysix2> pain: okay use kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:39] <michaelrob> hmm, 1024x768 works better i suppose
[19:39] <michaelrob> still ghosting over other windows, though
[19:39] <michaelrob> and it's all giant
[19:40] <Tarin> michaelrob: using dvi or vga cable?
[19:40] <michaelrob> vga
[19:40] <fivetwentysix2> pain: Did that work?
[19:40] <pain> but i need to download something, because i did that on the console and i get -bash: kdesudo: commando not found
[19:41] <pain> ?
[19:41] <nosrednaekim> michaelrob: whats the problem again?I came in late..
[19:41] <pain> *command
[19:41] <michaelrob> when i move a windows around it leaves a trail over all the other windows for a second
[19:41] <nosrednaekim> pain: ok, then use "kdesu"
[19:41] <pain> k ;)
[19:41] <nosrednaekim> michaelrob: are you using the VESA driver?
[19:42] <michaelrob> also, video is recognized as "ati rage 128" with driver "ati"
[19:42] <fivetwentysix2> nosrednaekim: Want to explain to him how to enable multiverse repositories on Ubuntu 6?
[19:42] <fivetwentysix2> nosrednaekim: Kubuntu6 sorry since i've never used it
[19:42] <Tarin> michaelrob: have you tried updating drivers?
[19:42] <michaelrob> how do i do that?
[19:42] <pain> kdesu: cannot connect to X server
[19:42] <nosrednaekim> michaelrob: fivetwentysix2: thats the most up-to-date driver
[19:42] <pain> but well thanks for the help all ;)
[19:43] <pain> maybe i should download other version ?
[19:43] <nosrednaekim> pain: this is 6.06, the LTS release?
[19:43] <nosrednaekim> pain: things are alot easier in gutsy :)
[19:43] <pain> ohh...
[19:43] <Tarin> nosrednaekim: well thats out then. thanks
[19:43] <pain> ;)
[19:43] <pain> well let me see
[19:43] <pain> about the version
[19:43] <pain> but i think is that one, yeah
[19:44] <velh0> hello my kubuntu friends!!!
[19:44] <nosrednaekim> pain: lsb_release -a
[19:44] <Ralesk> llutz: okay, seems to run (crappiest UI I've seen in ages though), how do I find out the "usb interface" and other things like that?
[19:44] <Tarin> nosrednaekim: any ideas why there would be trails moving a window?
[19:44] <pain> yes it says description: Ubuntu 6.0601 LTS
[19:44] <llutz> Ralesk: check opensync-documentation and configure your needed plugins
[19:44] <velh0> I need to install ubuntustudio (the one with realtime kernel) in my kubuntu laptop. can anybody help me?
[19:44] <nosrednaekim> Tarin: no 2d accel I would assume, or just a down-right slow video bard
[19:45] <pain> codename dapper
[19:45] <Ralesk> okies, will do, thanks :)
[19:45] <nosrednaekim> pain: ok... if you have the ability, do get gutsy(7.10)
[19:45] <michaelrob> probably just slow video because it's integrated but they don't trail in windows
[19:45] <Tarin> nosrednaekim: had him turn off show window contents and it works but who really wants to use it that way!
[19:45] <pain> kk
[19:45] <pain> ;)
[19:45] <nosrednaekim> !ubuntustudio
[19:45] <ubotu> UbuntuStudio is a collection of packages for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best Audio/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories. For more info and install instructions, join #ubuntustudio or see http://ubuntustudio.org
[19:46] <velh0> thankx ;)
[19:46] <michaelrob> so if the problem is just slow video then I assume I'm screwed, correct?
[19:47] <pain> K guys i will be back
[19:47] <pain> just gonna download that new version  gutsy(7.10)
[19:47] <nosrednaekim> michaelrob: this is just plain KDE ith no transparent window borders?
[19:47] <pain> Thanks for the help ^
[19:47] <pain> ^^ ;)
[19:47] <nosrednaekim> pain: great
[19:47] <michaelrob> right
[19:48] <Tarin> nosrednaekim: and he hasnt added any window or desktop customizations
[19:48] <nosrednaekim> Tarin: well, the crystal window decorations can be transparent, and it slows things down
[19:49] <nosrednaekim> michaelrob: try doing a "glxinfo" and see if you have direct rendering.
[19:49] <Tarin> nosrednaekim: he is using 1280x1024 on a 15" lcd with a native of 1024x768
[19:49] <Tarin> vga only
[19:49] <anon32> nosrednaekim, isn't crystal's transparency done the same way as konsole? Entirely in software?
[19:49] <michaelrob> how does one do a "gixinfo"?
[19:49] <anon32> michaelrob, glxinfo. And you type that into a terminal.
[19:50] <nosrednaekim> erm... you can't use a HIGHER res on a monitor...
[19:50] <nosrednaekim> anon32: correct.
[19:50] <anon32> you can, it'll just span or downscale :-P
[19:50] <Tarin> right
[19:50] <anon32> or break :-)
[19:50] <Tarin> lol
[19:50] <nosrednaekim> oh... well, thats probably not good for graphics performance either.
[19:50] <Tarin> nope
[19:50] <anon32> and it looks ugly :-)
[19:50] <michaelrob> direct rendering = yes
[19:50] <nosrednaekim> anon32: hrm... good catch, I'm not sure where the transparency is done.
[19:51] <fred_> how i put the flash plugin in konqueror
[19:51] <fred_> please
[19:51]  * anon32 only today figured out how to turn round edges off in Crystal. Yay.
[19:51] <nosrednaekim> michaelrob: humm, if it has 3d, it should have decent 2d as well, I wonder why its doing that.
[19:52] <X314> whats the command to configure X in terminal anyone?
[19:52] <BluesKaj> michaelrob, what's your graphics card ?
[19:52] <SlimeyPete> X314: you can edit your X configuration with "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[19:53] <SlimeyPete> unless you mean you want to set your $DISPLAY
[19:53] <michaelrob> integrated ati rage 128 says kubuntu
[19:53] <acee1234> im having a host of problems with ubuntu's graphics but cant seem to get anyone's attention im running ati x1400 and running the restricted drivers direct rendering return yes but everything flickers window movement scrolling etc online movie playback is horrible and even by typing is delayed at times. any ideas? im not runnng compiz
[19:53] <sub[t]rnl> X314➜  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[19:54] <Tarin> hey guys i gotta run bbl
[19:54] <BluesKaj> ok , michaelrob try ' fgl_glxgears ' in the konsole
[19:54] <michaelrob> command not found
[19:56] <sub[t]rnl> glxgears?
[19:56] <michaelrob> it brngs up a picture of gears
[19:56] <michaelrob> turning
[19:57] <michaelrob> and is reading off fps now: 451, 477, 556, etc
[19:57] <BluesKaj> ok michaelrob install mesa-utils
[19:57] <michaelrob> would that be apt-get insstall mesa-utils?
[19:58] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[19:58] <mike> how exactly does one add library paths using kubuntu?
[19:58] <michaelrob> mesa-utils is already the newest version.
[19:58] <michaelrob> mesa-utils set to manual installed.
[20:02] <zeralas> How can I reset my xorg.conf to default?
[20:03] <Ralesk> gah, why is like 99% of the bloody documentation about how to install this thing from source?!
[20:04] <jussi01> zeralas: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[20:04] <jussi01> Ralesk: which thing?
[20:05] <Ralesk> jussi01: opensync
[20:07] <acee1234> if you dont have any ideas then who might i ask.
[20:08] <jussi01> acee1234: which processor?
[20:09] <hyper_ch> how can I disable the kwallet daemon?
[20:09] <acee1234> acee1234: core duo 2.0ghz
[20:09] <acee1234> jussi01:core duo 2.0ghz
[20:09] <jussi01> acee1234: I had a similar thing, wait 1
[20:09] <alejandro> hello
[20:09] <BluesKaj> michaelrob, do you have  the restricted driver in system settings/advanced enabled ?
[20:10] <acee1234> jussi01: np
[20:10] <michaelrob> says i don't need any
[20:10] <sub[t]rnl> hyper_ch➜ kcontrol -> security & privacy -> KDE Wallet
[20:10] <alejandro> kde network
[20:11] <alejandro> alguien habla español
[20:11] <michaelrob> oh well, i can live with windows trails
[20:11] <michaelrob> is there a way to make the image for the shortcut to firefox bigger on my desktop so it stands out more?
[20:12] <alejandro> alguien sabe configurar red local en kubuntu
[20:12] <hyper_ch> sub[t]rnl: :( not there in hardy
[20:12] <BluesKaj> michaelrob, with that graphics card I think you should enable the restricted driver ...you'll have better graphics
[20:13] <michaelrob> it says that there are no restricted drivers for it
[20:13] <hyper_ch> sub[t]rnl: ok, had to reinstall kwalletmanager
[20:13] <hyper_ch> sub[t]rnl: thx
[20:13] <BluesKaj> michaelrob, in system settings/advanced ?
[20:13] <michaelrob> yes
[20:14] <jussi01> !es | alejandro
[20:14] <ubotu> alejandro: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[20:14] <michaelrob> which i click the restrcited driver manager it says i don't need any
[20:15] <alejandro> ok gracias ubotu
[20:15] <jussi01> acee1234: try adding noapic nolapic to the grub options - that worked for me on my x1300
[20:15] <BluesKaj> no michaelrob < i mean the restricted driver listed in the advanced tab in system settings
[20:15] <acee1234> jussi01:  uhhh how
[20:16] <jussi01> acee1234: reboot, look at the grub menu - there are instuctions there - you press c IIRC
[20:16] <jussi01> or was it e???
[20:16] <jussi01> hmmm
[20:16] <acee1234> e=edid
[20:16] <acee1234> edit
[20:16] <jussi01> acee1234: go have a look anyway.
[20:17] <acee1234> ok brb
[20:18] <michaelrob> it says "there are no proprietary drivers in use on this system"
[20:18] <michaelrob> and there are none listed
[20:18] <kaminix> Anyone else having probs with flash-nonfree and nspluginviewer in Konqueror since the last update?
[20:18] <JoshOvki> kaminix read /titile
[20:19] <kaminix> Ah. :)
[20:19] <JoshOvki> :)
[20:19] <kaminix> Any ideas when it will be fixed?
[20:20] <acee1234> "c" gave me the command prompt typing noapic nolapic didnt do anything
[20:22] <acee1234> can someone tell me the name of the guy i was talking to just a secong ago because my log is cleared
[20:23] <JoshOvki> acee123: it was jussi01
[20:23] <acee1234> thank you
[20:23] <LWATCDR> Any have any suggestions on getting Wifi working?
[20:24] <LWATCDR> I installed Kbuntu on my notebook and For the life of me can not get it to see my wifi network.
[20:24] <LWATCDR> Is there some way to get it to see the available networks?
[20:24] <acee1234> jussi01: what exactly was i supposed to type
[20:25] <JoshOvki> hi LWATCDR, is your wireless device detected do you know?
[20:26] <LWATCDR> I have a Wifi0 and a wlan0 showing.
[20:26] <JoshOvki> ok, do you have knetwork manager loaded?
[20:26] <LWATCDR> I figure that the wlan0 is the bluetooth.
[20:26] <LWATCDR> Yes
[20:26] <LWATCDR> Knetwork manager is loaded.
[20:27] <JoshOvki> ok, in command run   vim /etc/network/interfaces
[20:27] <JoshOvki> what displays?
[20:27] <mike> how does one add library paths in kubuntu?
[20:27] <mike> besides typing export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib/mylib etc before running the program
[20:28] <Ralesk> mike: you could put such a line into your .bashrc for example :)
[20:28] <michaelrob> i need help finding drivers for my canon pixma mp780 printer, i hear that the iP 4100 driver is what I need but can't find it
[20:29] <mike> yeah but Ive heard that it has something to do with ld.so.conf and ldconfig, but I have had no success using it after reading the man pages on it
[20:29] <mike> and .bashrc seems hacky to me
[20:30] <Schuenemann> what's wrong with doing that to .bashrc?
[20:30] <rdw> does flash plugin already install?
[20:30] <rdw> for amd64
[20:31] <rdw> does it work yet
[20:32] <JoshOvki> rdw: according to the title the flash plugin installation is broken
[20:32] <nosrednaekim> !flash
[20:32] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[20:32] <rdw> it's been like that for months!
[20:32] <rdw> can they even fix it?
[20:32] <niall> you can download a working deb and install it yourself
[20:32] <nosrednaekim> rdw: thank adobe
[20:32] <niall> that's what I did
[20:33] <kaminix> Flash worked like the day before yesterday for me rdw
[20:33] <LWATCDR> okay in network/interfaces I have iface wifi0 inet dhcp wireless-essid sazume
[20:33] <mike> Because, should I want to remove that library line a month from now, it'd be a lot better to have it wherever else library paths are defined, rather than remembering "ITS IN BASHRC" (which I wont)
[20:34] <niall> rdw: http://www.debian-multimedia.org/flashplayer/
[20:34] <JoshOvki> LWATCDR: ok, exit that. Make a copy, and remove everything from the original. Save and restart
[20:34] <Csigaa> hi
[20:34] <rdw> really? are you on 64-bit?
[20:34] <rdw> kaminix:
[20:34] <kaminix> rdw: Wops, missed that part. I'm on x86
[20:35] <niall> rdw: just download the thing in that link ;x
[20:35] <rdw> i can see it. thanks niall
[20:36] <LWATCDR> okay redstarting
[20:36] <rdw> now if only java worked :) :p :/
[20:36] <jfb> IRC question: how do I identify myself in order to join a channel
[20:37] <niall> java apps?
[20:37] <rdw> nope, java plugin for firefox
[20:37] <niall> oh
[20:37] <rdw> eclipse works for me allright
[20:39] <mike> so nobody can answer that question?
[20:39] <LWATCDR> JoshOvki: It has restarted
[20:39] <niall> what question?
[20:39] <mike> how does one add library paths in kubuntu?
[20:39] <mike> besides typing export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib/mylib etc before running the program
[20:40] <JoshOvki> LWATCDR: has knetwork manager picked up any wireless networks?
[20:40] <LWATCDR> Nope
[20:40] <nosrednaekim> mike: and besides putting it in the .bashrc?
[20:40] <mike> yes
[20:40] <mike> as I SAID
[20:40] <mike> NO CAPS
[20:40] <LWATCDR> And the WAP is about 6 inches from it.
[20:40] <mike> UGH
[20:40] <mike> sorry
[20:40] <mike> as I said
[20:40] <JoshOvki> LWATCDR: ok, whats in that interfaces file now?
[20:40] <mike> that's hacky
[20:41] <mike> and its beyond me why adding it to ld.so.conf and running ldconfig does not solve this problem
[20:41] <nosrednaekim> mike: not sure, I suppose you could put it in rc.local and have it be exported at boot.
[20:43] <stephen> salut !
[20:43] <Ralesk> llutz: it seems that there's nothing that responds to syncml-obex-client -u on this system :(((  looks like I'm screwed with this phone
[20:44] <LWATCDR> nothing JoshOvki
[20:44] <LWATCDR> ipconfig did find my ethernet card.
[20:44] <JoshOvki> LWATCDR: in terminal run   iwconfig
[20:45] <DiceyDays> Anyone here uses Konversation? How do I stop it from using my name when I join a chat?
[20:45] <LWATCDR> It says no wireless extensions
[20:46] <michaelrob> the instructions for the pritner driver i just download says i need cupsys, where do i get it?
[20:46] <JoshOvki> lwatcdr: leads me to thnk that the driver isnt installed for it
[20:46] <stephen> sudo aptitude install cupsys ?
[20:46] <sub[t]rnl> DiceyDays➜ server list -> edit network -> edit identity -> advanced
[20:47] <DiceyDays> sub[t]rnl: Thanks :)
[20:47] <LWATCDR> It is a thinkpad A32P
[20:48] <LWATCDR> A31 P
[20:48] <LWATCDR> So I think it has a Prisim card that is is the kernel
[20:48] <chind> his anyone here familiar with unionfs? i want to mount '/' with it after i've booted to save changes to a usb stick. i have the following but the files don't get stored for some reason.  "mount -t unionfs -o dirs=/media/disk:/aofs=ro none /"
[20:48] <nosrednaekim> LWATCDR: lol... just worked on one of them for my freind
[20:49] <LWATCDR> So nosrednaekim is the card in the kernel?
[20:50] <JoshOvki> LWATCDR: is there a wireless button on your laptop?
[20:50] <nosrednaekim> LWATCDR: well, the one I had didn't have a card. but the prism's should be in the kernel..... try running a "lspci" to see what type of chipset it has
[20:50] <LWATCDR> No
[20:50] <JoshOvki> ok
[20:50] <LWATCDR> And yes it is a Prisim 2.5
[20:50] <nosrednaekim> LWATCDR: thats all lspci says about it?
[20:52] <LWATCDR> Intersil Corp Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset (rev 01)
[20:52] <yakuzi> Hi all
[20:52] <nosrednaekim> ah... wavelan, thats older I think, let me go google that
[20:53] <LWATCDR> I could just grab a lan cable and try and run the updates
[20:54] <yakuzi> i've a question concerning my logitech MX518 mouse and touchpad on my laptop. I got the mouse nicely working trough the "walktrough" on the forums, but is there a way to check if the logitech mouse is connected? because if i don't connect the mouse, the laptop stalls when booting, if the mouse is connected, it works like a charm
[20:54] <nosrednaekim> nah...that probably wouldn't do any good, but it might be helpful if I find something you need to DL.
[20:54] <LWATCDR> I also have started to download the kubuntu DVD thinking that it might have more drivers available.
[20:55] <nosrednaekim> LWATCDR: it doesn't
[20:56] <fivetwentysix> How do I configure firefox to work with Sun Java 6 JRE?
[20:56] <fivetwentysix> !jre
[20:56] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[20:56] <BluesKaj> yakuzi, the HAL might be looking for the mouse , if you have it enabled in system settings
[20:56] <fivetwentysix> !firefox
[20:56] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[20:57] <acee1234> jussi01: you there?
[20:57] <jussi01> acee1234: yes
[20:58] <acee1234> sry didnt realize i was disconected
[20:58] <acee1234> jussi01: what exactly was i suposed to do
[20:58] <saebbi_> perl -e 'print "A"x10000' | xclip -selection "clipboard"
[20:59] <yakuzi> BluesKaj: i was thinking about 2 possible reasons/ 1, i had to adjust the xorg.conf file as told in the walktrough, and it uses a bootable scipt for lomoco so the mouse runs on highest DPI from boot
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[20:59] <JoshOvki> seabbi: shut the hell up
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[20:59] <acee1234> spam->boot
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[20:59] <fivetwentysix> Ban him
[20:59] <nosrednaekim> !ops
[20:59] <emilsedgh> Riddell: ping!
[20:59] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, Tm_T, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild or jussi01!
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[20:59] <sepeck> 13 year old
[21:00] <hydrogen> hmm
[21:00] <hydrogen> only one letter on the keyboard :(
[21:00] <hydrogen> kind of sad
[21:00] <JoshOvki> thank you stdin
[21:00] <emilsedgh> ah
[21:00] <LjL> stdin: was that intended?
[21:00] <stdin> LjL: not entirely, no
[21:01] <nosrednaekim> thanks ljl, stdin
[21:01] <JoshOvki> and thanks ljl
[21:01] <stdin> LjL: trying to /msg now actually, host is very similar
[21:01] <LjL> well many are connected from there
[21:01] <mike> So what packages are for making kde look pretty?
[21:01] <hydrogen> gnome-base
[21:01] <hydrogen> :p
[21:01] <NickPresta> !tell mike about compiz
[21:02] <NickPresta> mike, that factoid, for Compiz, will make anything pretty and fun :)
[21:02] <hydrogen> compiz--
[21:02] <JoshOvki> !compiz | mike
[21:02] <hydrogen> and unstable
[21:02] <ubotu> mike: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[21:02] <hydrogen> and likely to eat children
[21:02] <stdin> LjL: no reply, but I'll remove the ban as it wasn't intended anyway
[21:02] <mike> compiz is unstable?  Is that what you meant?
[21:03] <nosrednaekim> LWATCDR: still looking BTW ;)
[21:03] <NickPresta> mike, compiz is in development so while it isn't 100% stable (things may break or function incorrectly) it is fairly stable enough for regular desktop usage.
[21:03] <LWATCDR> okay I even tried a reboot
[21:03] <michaelrob> can you change individual icon sizes in KDE?
[21:04] <velh0> my system just crashed for no reason :(
[21:04] <mike> And Emerald does what in relation to compiz?
[21:04] <LWATCDR> I could always fall back and try Ubuntu, That is what I am running on my Desktop.
[21:04] <nosrednaekim> michaelrob: no, I don't think so
[21:05] <nosrednaekim> mike: title bar and window decorations
[21:05] <mike> so then I probably want that?
[21:05] <nosrednaekim> LWATCDR: its the asme kernel, so it will act the same way
[21:05] <LWATCDR> Doing an install isn't all that hard. I just don't want to go back to OpenSuse.
[21:05] <BluesKaj> yakuzi, perhaps the xorg file needs some editing like you mentioned in input device/ "configured mouse" but I wouldn't know a command that will turn it off and on automatically when a mouse isn't needed
[21:05] <NickPresta> mike, you could say emerald is your theme manager and decorator.
[21:05] <nosrednaekim> mike: well, there is also compiz-kde, but emerald is way nicer
[21:06] <mike> so then compiz is just the backend?
[21:06] <LWATCDR> I had it working in OpenSuse but I really hate yast and it is so cluttered comparied to Ubuntu/kUbuntu.
[21:06] <acee1234> jussi01: i was having issues with video glitching and you told be to do somethng at the command prompt what was that?
[21:06] <nosrednaekim> LWATCDR: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4245942#post4245942
[21:06] <jussi01> acee1234: no, not at the command prompt, when ggrub loads. add noapic nolapic to the grub boot options
[21:07] <yakuzi> BluesKaj: well if i would know how to see what's happening when booting, i could see where he hangs (there's an echo line in the bootable lomoco script)
[21:07] <BluesKaj> Suse would be ok but the insistence on the yast repos system is it's downfall IMO
[21:07] <acee1234> jussi01: how?
[21:07] <nosrednaekim> mike: compiz does other things, such as make windows wobbly, draw a cube of your desktop and many many others
[21:07] <JoshOvki> acee1234: when you restart press   Esc  and then    c
[21:07] <mike> and emerald makes it so I can minimize/maximize/close?
[21:08] <velh0> how can i recover from a crash without the need of restarting the machine? how can i kill a process when my system is  frozen?
[21:08] <acee1234> jussi01: ok thaat gives me the command line
[21:08] <nosrednaekim> velh0: you could try sshing in
[21:08] <LWATCDR> Great I will try flashing the card.
[21:09] <LWATCDR> I have it dual booting and it works under XP
[21:09] <BluesKaj> velho , ctrl+alt+backspace will bring you back to the login screen
[21:09] <nosrednaekim> mike: pretty much...
[21:10] <mike> hmm, okay, installed emerald and compiz packages, and got a theme for emerald
[21:10] <bootsmorris> hi all
[21:10] <mike> now I will figure out how to turn compiz on :)
[21:11] <acee1234> JoshOvki: that gives me the command line then what
[21:12] <JoshOvki> acee1234: try google, i cant remember and i havnt got anything to test on
[21:13] <acee1234> JoshOvki: will do thank you
[21:13] <JoshOvki> acee1234: type   help   it might give you some options
[21:13] <velh0> nosrednaekim: how and were can i try that?
[21:14] <coreymon77> nosrednaekim: you there?
[21:14] <acee1234> JoshOvki: google answered
[21:14] <acee1234> JoshOvki: i think
[21:14] <JoshOvki> acee1234: excelent :)
[21:14] <mike> what is used to change the look of the main KDE menu? (I guess the windows "Start" menu equivalent)
[21:15] <JoshOvki> mike: thinkpad A32P
[21:15] <JoshOvki> mike: sorry wrong thing in clipboard
[21:16] <mike> but I dont want to buy a new laptop to change the look of that particular menu :/
[21:16] <JoshOvki> mike:  http://www.kde-look.org
[21:16] <BluesKaj> mike, there are a couple of other menus like kickoff and tasty menu
[21:17] <velh0> how can i recover from a crash without the need of restarting the machine? how can i kill a process when my system is  frozen?
[21:17] <anon32> depends how its locked up
[21:17] <anon32> if only X is dead, you can use some kind of remote login like ssh
[21:18] <bootsmorris> if x froze ctrl alt backspace
[21:18] <velh0> anon32: like completely frozen
[21:18] <anon32> see if alt+sysrq+b does anything
[21:19] <velh0> can i access it tru the system by ctrl+alt+f8 for example?
[21:19] <anon32> dunno
[21:19] <velh0> and kill the process
[21:19] <velh0> ?
[21:20] <velh0> i thouth linux was a completel reliable system, but it crashes once in a wille
[21:20] <anon32> completely reliable
[21:20] <velh0> all i want to know is what do i need to do to recover the system (like what i do in WIndows, e.g.)
[21:20] <JoshOvki> velh0: everything crashes once in a while, besides it probly wasnt the linux kernal that crashed, but a problem inside on your install
[21:21] <JoshOvki> *program
[21:21] <anon32> nothing is completely reliable.
[21:21] <anon32> velh0, see if ctrl+alt+backspace works
[21:21] <anon32> if that doesn't try using ssh to login from another computer
[21:21] <anon32> than see if alt+sysrq+s/u/b (in that order) works
[21:22] <anon32> then just hard power cycle
[21:22] <velh0> hell...so what can i do to make it more stable? any help would be truly apreciated :)
[21:22] <anon32> if you have dodgy video drivers, go for a slower or older one that you know works
[21:22] <velh0> anon32: what do you mean by sysrq?
[21:22] <anon32> it's the "printscreen" button
[21:22] <anon32> usually next to scroll lock
[21:22] <velh0> oh!
[21:23] <velh0> im using a laptop
[21:24] <yakuzi> BluesKaj: the line where it hangs is this "running local boot scripts (/etc/rc/local)" before that it gives the echo line... so my guess it's the lomoco setting done by boot that causes the problem
[21:25] <LWATCDR> Well if nothing else I really need a new battery for my notebook :)
[21:26] <bmk789_> what does it mean when the local printer box is greyed out when i try to add a printer?
[21:28] <victor__> hallo
[21:28] <SlimeyPete> hi
[21:28] <victor__> guess what
[21:28] <fivetwentysix> Does alien convert .rpm to .deb?
[21:28] <SimplyTechie> fivetwentysix, yes.
[21:28] <Unksi> fivetwentysix: yes
[21:28] <fivetwentysix> How do I use alien?
[21:28] <velh0> hey, what da hell was that for???
[21:29] <fivetwentysix> da hell?
[21:29] <fivetwentysix> lol
[21:29] <victor__> i just learned how to use my verizone ev-do card  YAY ME
[21:29] <SimplyTechie> fivetwentysix, alien [--to-deb] [--to-rpm] [--to-tgz] [--to-slp] [options] file [...]
[21:29] <velh0> all that alt+printscreen stuff just power off the computer
[21:29] <fivetwentysix> Thank you SimplyTechie
[21:30] <velh0> if that is all the help i can get in here, i need no help at all!
[21:30] <SimplyTechie> np ;)
[21:30] <SimplyTechie> velh0, huh ?
[21:31] <velh0> SimplyTechie: i was asking for some help. about how could i recover a crash system without the need of power off the computer
[21:31] <Dhraakellian> hmm
[21:32] <Dhraakellian> Kubuntu seems to have set me up with LILO
[21:32] <SimplyTechie> opps.
[21:32]  * Dhraakellian was expecting Grub
[21:33] <Dhraakellian> but given how rarely I reboot that computer, a little less prettiness on bootup doesn't matter too much
[21:34] <bmk789_> what does it mean when the local printer box is greyed out when i try to add a printer?
[21:34] <velh0> my kubuntu crashes once in a wile for no reason
[21:34] <SimplyTechie> lilo ant bad..
[21:34] <SimplyTechie> bmk789_, maybe no permisson to add
[21:34] <velh0> i'm a noobie, so i just hope this is my fault and not the system
[21:34] <bmk789_> SimplyTechie: it was as root
[21:35] <velh0> anyway, i would like to solve this issue
[21:35] <bmk789_> but i could add any other type of printer
[21:35] <SimplyTechie> bmk789_,  which printer ?
[21:35] <bmk789_> SimplyTechie: lexmark X85
[21:36] <jpgeerets> hi folks
[21:36] <jpgeerets> have sound problem...
[21:36] <jpgeerets> someone any idea?
[21:37] <Dhraakellian> Is there any particular reason why the text-mode installer on the DVD set me up with LILO instead of GRUB?
[21:41] <fivetwentysix> !kate
[21:41] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[21:41] <fivetwentysix> !kaffeine
[21:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kaffeine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:41] <fivetwentysix> !xvid
[21:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[21:41] <aleksanteri> !msg | fivetwentysix
[21:42] <ubotu> fivetwentysix: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[21:42] <aleksanteri> bah..
[21:42] <jussi01> !botabuse
[21:42] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[21:42] <aleksanteri> that's the one
[21:42] <jussi01> !msgthebot > aleksanteri
[21:42] <jussi01> :)
[21:42] <aleksanteri> *rolls eyes*
[21:42] <hydrogen> !icandothistoo
[21:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icandothistoo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:43] <fivetwentysix> !being stupid
[21:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about being stupid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:43] <jussi01> be nice to the bot ;)
[21:43] <yakuzi> !bootscript
[21:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootscript - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:43] <SimplyTechie> bmk789_,  Cups has a config for allowing certian services..
[21:43] <SimplyTechie> might be lucky lookin into it.
[21:44] <X314> okay, so here is a bit of a problem for you all. I have just changed graphicscard and screen. after a bit of fiddeling, its now working. save for that everything white is super eyeburning white. when everything else is normal
[21:44] <fivetwentysix> This bot is stupid!
[21:44] <bmk789_> i tried pulling up localhost:631 but it wouldnt let me add anything
[21:44] <X314> if I change the gamma to lower. everything not white becomes close to black
[21:45] <SimplyTechie> bmk789_,  /etc/cups/cupsd.conf but i havnt played with cups.
[21:45] <SimplyTechie> someone here would know better.
[21:45] <jussi01> X314: play with brightness and contrast on the screen - contrast in particular
[21:46] <X314> jussi01: I have, doesnt make it better. either everthing save for the white is really dark, or everything white hurts your eyes
[21:46] <blekos> hello,  do the applications for kde 3.5 run on kde 4.0 (or gnome applications like gnucash & firestarter)
[21:47] <jussi01> blekos: yes
[21:47] <jussi01> blekos: for kde4 support head on over to #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[21:47] <blekos> thnx
[21:50] <X314> guess I will have to live with it for now.. maybe it will be solveable at a later time
[21:53] <Dhraakellian> !lilo
[21:53] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li]nux Boot[Lo]ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[21:53] <Dhraakellian> !grub
[21:53] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:53] <Dhraakellian> okay
[21:54] <mmance> anyone know of something that converts html to a png or jpg via commandline
[21:55]  * Dhraakellian wonders why, if GRUB is recommended, lilo got installed instead
[21:55] <mani213> do i have to save the settings cause every time i retart the settings change
[21:55] <mani213> it there i can type in konsole to save it?
[21:55] <Dhraakellian> would the fact that I used the text-mode installer on the Kubuntu LiveDVD have anything to do with it?
[21:56] <bmk789_> Dhraakellian: what filesystem did you use?
[21:56] <Dhraakellian> ext3 on /
[21:56] <Dhraakellian> and /home
[21:56] <Dhraakellian> using lvm, if that means anything
[21:56] <Dhraakellian> hmm
[21:56]  * Dhraakellian realizes that he forgot to tell the installer to use sda1 as /boot
[21:57] <bmk789_> id reinstall and check partitions carefully
[21:57] <Dhraakellian> heheh
[21:57] <llutz> mmance: use convert (+ html2ps )
[21:58] <llutz> mmance: its in imagemagick package
[21:58] <Dhraakellian> mani213: to save your konsole session settings, Settings > Save as default
[21:58] <Dhraakellian> if that's what you meant
[21:59] <Dhraakellian> actually, not session settings per se
[21:59] <Dhraakellian> to save where it starts up and such, I think you'd actually have to make a new profile or something
[21:59] <Dhraakellian> but what I said will set the new default color scheme and whatnot
[22:00] <mani213> how do i get a animated clock on my desktop like they got that for vista?
[22:00] <mani213> whats the wigit called?
[22:00] <bmk789_> mani213: you can use cairo-clock
[22:01] <mani213> thanks alot
[22:01] <gundam_rx78nt1> BluesKaj: are you still logged on?
[22:01] <mani213> what about wetaher?
[22:01] <mani213> weather etc
[22:01] <jussi01> !superkaramba
[22:01] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[22:01] <bmk789_> !plasma
[22:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plasma - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:01] <bmk789_> !plasmoids
[22:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plasmoids - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:02] <Dhraakellian> bmk789_: but that'd be in #kubuntu-kde4, wouldn't it?
[22:02] <bmk789_> yes
[22:02] <Dhraakellian> anyway, thanks for the filesystem question
[22:02] <Dhraakellian> got me thinking along the right lines, I think
[22:03] <bmk789_> np
[22:04] <val0> bmk789_: check out kde-look.org (plasmoids)
[22:04] <val0> if that's what you are looking for :D
[22:06] <mani213> i installed cairo-clock
[22:06] <mani213> so what do i do to activate it?
[22:06] <mani213> liek what do i type in console?
[22:08] <subopt> I've got serious browser instability with GutsyGibbon (x86-32). The problem seems to have something to do w/Java. I've reinstalled Java and my browsers a few times now, but nothing seems to be helping. Any pointers?
[22:09] <gundam_rx78nt1> subopt, what is the problem?
[22:10] <Dhraakellian> 0x3A28213A 0x6339392C, 0x7363682E
[22:11] <JoshOvki> memory locations
[22:11] <Dhraakellian> pointers
[22:11] <genberto> c'e' nessuno ???
[22:11]  * Dhraakellian should be ashamed
[22:11] <Dhraakellian> a) for the bad joke
[22:11] <Dhraakellian> b) for stealing said joke from xkcd
[22:11] <Dhraakellian> c) for not doing so in the off-topic chan
[22:11] <subopt> gundam_rx78nt1: I'm having frequent browser lockups. It seems to happen mostly when i hit a link that wants to do a java popup.
[22:11] <JoshOvki> whats the translation?
[22:15] <val0> does anyone here use centerim as their msn client? if so can you connect to msn server? I can't for the last 24 hours using centerim, but can using kopete
[22:16] <mohbana> hey guys i am trying out kde 4.0 on ubuntu 7.10 its great
[22:17] <JoshOvki> !kde4 | mohbana
[22:17] <ubotu> mohbana: KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[22:17] <JoshOvki> mohbana: move to #kubuntu-kde4   :)
[22:20] <jackster> anyone have any idea why KDE 4 has dissapeared as an option from Session Type on my login screen?
[22:20] <jackster> seems to have happened at some point over the last two days
[22:21] <JoshOvki> jackster: #kubuntu-kde4
[22:21] <jackster> thanks JoshOvki
[22:22] <siofwolves> hi, i'm an ex windows user, really into kubuntu atm. the sound volume just doesn't seem as loud as in windows. full volume on kubuntu is like %40 full volume using windows. do i need to alter/set/configure some sound settings?
[22:23] <jpatrick> !sound
[22:24] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[22:26] <michaelrob> hey, is it possible to run beryl in kubuntu or is it gnome only?
[22:27] <DiceyDaysx> Is there any way to edit konqueror, like firefox's about:config?
[22:27] <siofwolves> jpatrick, thx. i do have sound, but not liud sound ;-) thanks for the help :-)
[22:27] <emilsedgh> !compiz | michaelrob
[22:27] <ubotu> michaelrob: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[22:27] <siofwolves> loud*
[22:27] <jpatrick> siofwolves: just thought the links might be some help
[22:27] <emilsedgh> michaelrob: beryl is dead, use compiz
[22:28] <dsmith_> michaelrob: what ver. distro?
[22:28] <dsmith_> yes, use compiz
[22:28] <michaelrob> 7.10, im reading the ubuntu wiki on it atm
[22:28] <dsmith_> michaelrob: compiz is in the repos
[22:28] <dsmith_> you will also need emerald
[22:29] <dsmith_> use alt-F2 to switch between windows managers
[22:31] <michaelrob> i entered the comand from the wiki, it asked if i wanted to continue and I say "Y" and then it said abort
[22:38] <Tonren> Can someone please help me get my external USB drive working?
[22:40] <hola> is it possible to shre pppoe
[22:46] <DiceyDaysx> Is anyone else here using kde4? If so, how is konqueror working for you?
[22:47] <jussi01> DiceyDaysx: kde4 support in #kubuntu-kde4
[22:48] <DiceyDaysx> Thanks. Didn't know that room existed
[22:52] <unagi> !gps
[22:52] <ubotu> Street mapping and GPS navigation software available for Ubuntu includes !GpsDrive (GTK, raster maps, free), !Roadnav (GTK, free vector maps from Tiger and OSM, free), !GoogleEarth (Qt, proprietary vector maps, proprietary)
[22:53] <anon32> is there any way I could use the fonts from my existing Windows install instead of downloading them with msttcorefonts?
[22:54] <llutz> anon32: for single user, copy them to ~/fonts
[22:54] <anon32> globally
[22:54] <llutz>  ~/.fonts
[22:54] <unagi> anyone here use gps?
[22:54] <biovore> try /usr/share/fonts (I think for global)
[22:54] <Wasserstoff> !anybody | unagi
[22:54] <llutz> anon32: use kcontrol - fonts
[22:54] <ubotu> unagi: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[22:56] <anon32> llutz, ok. Is there a way I could just use them straight from my Windows install without copying em over? Sounds like a waste of space to me.
[22:57] <llutz> anon32: you could link the win-fontsdir somewhere to be used within linux and add that to the font-manager i think
[22:58] <anon32> hmm
[22:58] <anon32> another thing: does anything depend on msttcorefonts? if so, could I make apt pretend I have the package installed?
[23:02] <ahmos> can kubuntu detect and install new hard wares automatically?
[23:03] <Agent_bob> i'm having an issue with "/usr/bin/openvt -sfc 23" doesn't use the users shell.   anyone know what might be the problem
[23:04] <Agent_bob> err never mind. i think i see it.
[23:04] <ahmos> hello!!!
[23:04] <Agent_bob> ahmos operating systems don't install hardware, they only access hardware
[23:05] <Agent_bob> but yes it will detect it
[23:05] <Agent_bob> or should
[23:06] <shaffy> does anyone know how to change the color of the text or background in the mousover balloon/popup tips?
[23:06] <ahmos> I've added anew IEEE card and installed Kino but I can't capture a video..any ideas?
[23:06] <Agent_bob> ahmos run your app from a terminal to see if it gives error messages
[23:07] <ahmos> sorry..
[23:08] <ahmos> no problems and program seems fine
[23:08] <peter_> spricht jeman deutsch?
[23:08] <Agent_bob> !de
[23:08] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[23:09] <peter_> !de
[23:09] <hola1> ho is it possible to share pppoe connection
[23:10] <llutz> hola1: you need ip_masquerading, ip_forwarding
[23:10] <peter_> tanks i'm go out byebye
[23:10] <shaffy> does anyone know how to change the color of the text or background in the mousover balloon/popup tips?
[23:11] <hola1> llutz: i tried in every ways
[23:11] <ahmos> oh i get this (warning: raw1394 kernel module not loaded or failure to read/write /dev/raw1394! )
[23:12] <Agent_bob> ahmos sudo modprobe raw1394
[23:12] <Agent_bob> ls -l /dev/raw1394
[23:12] <hola1> llutz: are you an expert?
[23:13] <llutz> hola1: nope
[23:13] <rodolfo> Alguien habla español????????
[23:13] <Agent_bob> !es | rodolfo
[23:13] <ubotu> rodolfo: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[23:13] <rodolfo> Gracias
[23:13] <llutz> hola1: you have a linux-PC with 2 network-devices. one for pppoe, one for localnet?
[23:14] <hola1> llutz: i have a linux PC + a virtual pc
[23:14] <ahmos> crw-rw---- 1 root disk 171, 0 2008-02-10 00:58 /dev/raw1394
[23:15] <Agent_bob> ahmos ^ might be your problem
[23:15] <llutz> hola1: virtual-pc like vmware/virtualbox? use NAT
[23:15] <web> join #linuxbr
[23:15] <ahmos> so?
[23:15] <Agent_bob> sudo chmod 666 /dev/raw1394
[23:15] <Agent_bob> and try again
[23:15] <hola1> llutz: no......if i use NAT every machine is not visibile each other
[23:16] <unagi> !info google earth
[23:16] <ubotu> Package google does not exist in gutsy
[23:16] <web> alguem do Brasil por aí?
[23:16] <ahmos> yes it worked..thank you Agent_bob very much  ;)
[23:16] <llutz> hola1: then use bridged networking and configure ipforwarding on host-pc
[23:16] <hola1> llutz: im tried vith bridge
[23:17] <hola1> llutz: are you able to help me
[23:17] <llutz> hola1: you should install something like dnsmasq for dns and dhcpd too
[23:17] <Agent_bob> ahmos that fix wont hold past a reboot.  so remember what you did,   or fix it more permanantly
[23:17] <llutz> hola1: vmware?
[23:17] <hola1> llutz: virtualbox
[23:17] <Xdanger> hey guys i jus installed KDE desktop on my Ubunut gusty 7.10..and i now can choose a KDE or GDM session at login..the problem is i had compiz installed in GDM...but i cant get the effects in KDM
[23:17] <llutz> hola1:  tap-devices up and running?
[23:17] <Xdanger> how can i do that??
[23:18] <ahmos> how to fix it more permanantly?
[23:18] <Agent_bob> ahmos a more permanant fix would be to add your user to the "disk" group
[23:18] <hola1> llutz: may i show you which steps im followed?
[23:18] <llutz> hola1: yes plz
[23:18] <hola1> brctl addbr br0
[23:18] <jcfp> unagi: medibuntu has a googleearth package
[23:18] <hola1> ifconfig eth0 0.0.0.0
[23:19] <hola1> brctl addif br0 eth0
[23:19] <hola1> dhclient br0
[23:19] <Agent_bob> ahmos you could also change the default for the device (not the reccomended way)
[23:19] <hola1> VBoxAddIF vbox0 user br0
[23:19] <hola1> llutz: are they correct
[23:20] <llutz> hola1: not sure about the last one. i use tun/tap devices in virtualbox. so every VM gets its own net-device
[23:20] <hola1> llutz: tell me .....i can use tap
[23:20] <hola1> llutz: tell me what have i do
[23:21] <llutz> hola1: plz wait a mom, i have to recall what i did...
[23:22] <llutz> hola1: are you registered here, i would like to query you
[23:22] <hola1> llutz: im sorry no
[23:22] <Agent_bob> activate ipv4_forwarding in the kernel   set the default route to the pppoe connection ip   and point all the other boxes to that gateway
[23:23] <llutz> Agent_bob: does that work with just br0-device in VMs instead of using tun/tap?
[23:24] <Agent_bob> llutz that works for normal linux boot systems   i don't know about vmware
[23:24] <Agent_bob> it's worth a try tho
[23:26] <Agent_bob> if the bridge is seemless it should
[23:27] <Agent_bob> llutz are we talking a dmz or a hostile net ?
[23:27] <Dhraakellian> so /mnt vs. /media
[23:28] <llutz> Agent_bob: 1 PC + 1 virtualbox installation on it should share the pcs pppoe-connection
[23:28] <Agent_bob> Dhraakellian depends on what you like.    i use mnt
[23:28] <Dhraakellian> the former for more permanent stuff and the latter for temporary removable media?
[23:28] <Agent_bob> llutz yeah that should be easy
[23:28] <llutz> Agent_bob: _but_ they should "see" each other in the net, so NAT wouldn't work
[23:29] <Agent_bob> Dhraakellian no. mnt for everything that init doesn't mount     my openion.
[23:29] <Agent_bob> llutz hmmm
[23:30] <Agent_bob> Dhraakellian however the "ubuntu way" is to use /media/ for everything   so like i said, it depends on your preferances
[23:31] <Dhraakellian> heheheh
[23:31] <Dhraakellian> and my preferences include not having to change symlinks to /mnt/sdb5
[23:32]  * Agent_bob wonders why symlinks ....
[23:32] <Agent_bob> you can mount on $HOME/something too you know.
[23:33] <Dhraakellian> it's more than just one thing
[23:33] <Dhraakellian> video, FLAC storage waiting to be converted to Vorbis, etc
[23:33]  * Dhraakellian shrugs
[23:34] <Agent_bob> !fstab
[23:34] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[23:34] <Agent_bob> !filesystem
[23:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about filesystem - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:34] <Agent_bob> !filesystems
[23:34] <ubotu> ext3 is the default fileystem in Ubuntu (and many other Linuxes). Alternative Linux filesystems include reiserfs and xfs. fat32 and ntfs are DOS/Windows filesystems. hfs and hfs+ are filesystems for the Mac. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems
[23:35] <Agent_bob> that's not it.
[23:35] <Dhraakellian> !partitions
[23:35] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[23:35] <Agent_bob> there was an infonode that explained the basics of why linux uses /usr  share/ and so forth
[23:35] <Dhraakellian> ah
[23:35] <llutz> !lsb
[23:35] <ubotu> The Linux Standard Base, or LSB, is a joint project by several Linux distributions under the organizational structure of The Free Standards Group to standardize the internal structure of Linux-based operating systems. The LSB is based on the POSIX specification, the Single UNIX Specification, and several other open standards, but extends them in certain areas.
[23:36] <llutz> !fhs
[23:36] <ubotu> An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[23:36] <Agent_bob> that's it
[23:36] <Agent_bob> LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview <<< what a name
[23:37] <Dhraakellian> so, according to that page, I had it backwards
[23:37] <Agent_bob> there is actually a more linux generic one too...
[23:38]  * Dhraakellian shrugs again
[23:38] <Agent_bob> Dhraakellian heh   but like i said when it comes to /mnt /media $HOME/<nountpoint>   it's  totally 100% user discression
[23:38] <Dhraakellian> yep
[23:38] <llutz> Agent_bob: like this? http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html
[23:39] <Agent_bob> llutz yes very much like that.
[23:40] <Agent_bob> have to do things.  back in a few
[23:41] <theunixgeek> If I sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, will all default Kubuntu apps also be installed?
[23:47] <unagi> can someone help me figure out gpsdrive?>
[23:48] <Stilo> !tr
[23:48] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.