| geser | slangasek: thanks | 00:01 |
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| sistpoty | slangasek: btw.: can you accept nvidia-settings into universe (it was removed due to conflicts with l-r-m, which tjaalton and me discussed afterwards and /me tried to get the result into shape)... formerly nvidia-settings source lived in restricted, but I've found nothing that doesn't speak against inclusing in universe | 00:20 |
| sistpoty | slangasek: however if you prefer, I'll mail to -devel first with what I've done and why | 00:20 |
| rockets | Is there any chance of fakeraid support in the installer in hardy? | 00:31 |
| slangasek | sistpoty: in the middle of some other stuff now, sorry | 00:31 |
| slangasek | sistpoty: so email to -devel sounds ok | 00:32 |
| sistpoty | ok, will do ... thanks | 00:32 |
| cjwatson | rockets: subject to bug-fixing, the alternate/server installer should have most of the unnecessary | 00:34 |
| cjwatson | err | 00:34 |
| cjwatson | most of the necessary bits | 00:34 |
| cjwatson | rockets: the desktop installer is unlikely to gain it for hardy | 00:34 |
| rockets | cjwatson, so if i install via the alternate cd, with hardy final, it should work? | 00:34 |
| cjwatson | hmm, somebody does need to promote partman-dmraid and such to main once they're tested though | 00:34 |
| rockets | I mean I've done it with dmraid + debootstrap. | 00:35 |
| cjwatson | evand: ^-- could you look at that once you get this machine from rtg? | 00:35 |
| rockets | Its very not-fun. | 00:35 |
| cjwatson | rockets: I'm not willing to guarantee it yet because it's not in place yet | 00:35 |
| cjwatson | but we're not a million miles away | 00:35 |
| rockets | cool | 00:35 |
| rockets | thx | 00:35 |
| cjwatson | partman-dmraid is pretty crazy, but I have seen it working (the UI is not the best, just functional) | 00:36 |
| DarkSun88 | Hi all. | 00:36 |
| cjwatson | that was when fjp was hacking on it at debconf last year though | 00:36 |
| pochu | Is there any policy regarding whether daemons should be enabled by default or not when you install a -daemon package? | 00:46 |
| sladen | pochu: enabled, otherwise pursumely you wouldn't have apt-get installed them | 00:53 |
| pochu | sladen: That's what I guessed. I'm about to close as invalid bug 109434, but I can see the point from the reporter that you can enable/disable the server from the game menu, and that you may want to have the server installed without running, and only enable it when you are going to play with a friend. So I'm confused right now. | 00:55 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 109434 in wesnoth "Installing a server for a game automatically auto-inits and runs every boot." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109434 | 00:55 |
| pochu | sladen: I also see the user case that e.g. I have a server, install the package and want it to be working out of the box... | 00:56 |
| pochu | But thanks. | 00:56 |
| sladen | pochu: is this a game server that gets isntalled at the same time as the client part of the game? | 01:01 |
| pochu | sladen: no, it's a different package which won't be installed with the game | 01:01 |
| pochu | There's nothing even suggesting it. | 01:02 |
| sladen | pochu: there should be a way to disable it, but have that enabled by default | 01:03 |
| pochu | sladen: perhaps a debconf question on whether enable it or not, defaulting to yes, as has been suggested in the report? | 01:07 |
| sladen | pochu: yes, if it's at a level that will not be displayed by default | 01:13 |
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| Iulian | G'morning | 07:07 |
| Hobbsee | evening | 07:09 |
| calc | which tool uses the debian/pycompat file? | 07:12 |
| persia | calc: python-support | 07:14 |
| persia | Err. Sorry, that's debian/pyversions. python-central might use it as well. | 07:15 |
| twb | Where can I find the schedule for hardy freeze and release dates? | 07:16 |
| persia | !schedule | 07:16 |
| ubotu | Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases | 07:16 |
| twb | Thank you. | 07:17 |
| calc | persia: oh ok | 07:21 |
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| abbe | hi channel | 11:02 |
| abbe | I've made some packages for some free some free software, and I want to host them in my PPA | 11:03 |
| abbe | any ideas how to proceed | 11:03 |
| Hobbsee | abbe: #launchpad for ppa support, and you want to see the PPA quick start guide | 11:03 |
| pochu | !ppa | 11:04 |
| ubotu | With Launchpad's Personal Package Archives (PPA), you can build and publish binary Ubuntu packages for multiple architectures simply by uploading an Ubuntu source package to Launchpad. See https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart. | 11:04 |
| abbe | thanks Hobbsee , but I've activated my PPA, and I tried uploading but my stuff is rejected | 11:06 |
| abbe | twice | 11:06 |
| abbe | :( | 11:06 |
| jpatrick | abbe: see the QuickStart page | 11:07 |
| abbe | jpatrick: okay, I'll review that page, thanks | 11:08 |
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| abbe | wow this time, PPA is accepted, I made no changes at all | 11:16 |
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| pochu | !ops | 12:04 |
| ubotu | Help! bhale, infinity, Hobbsee, jdub, thom, fooishbar, fabbione, mdz, lamont, or Keybuk | 12:04 |
| Amberl51l14ix7b4 | come is televisions virtual entertainment. HI confuse with about for now. all Of culture, reality entertainment its why | 12:04 |
| Hobbsee | Seveas: find me a staffer. now. | 12:05 |
| pochu | Thanks Hobbsee. | 12:05 |
| elkbuntu | Hobbsee, there's at least one staffer aware of them | 12:06 |
| Hobbsee | elkbuntu: ah yes, looks like there is now. | 12:06 |
| Hobbsee | Seveas: out of curiousity, did you page tomaw then? | 12:08 |
| geser | doko_: how should I understand "Upload as gcj-4.3" from the gcj-4.2 changelog when the (binary) packages are still named *-4.2? | 12:28 |
| pochu | soren: I've updated gtk-vnc to 0.3.3. As I had to update your ext_key_event patch, would you mind reviewing (and if it's good, sponsoring) it? It's at bug 190446. TIA! | 13:03 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 190446 in gtk-vnc "Please sponsor gtk-vnc (main) 0.3.3 into Hardy" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190446 | 13:03 |
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| Seveas | Hobbsee, I was away shopping, I didn't do anything :) | 13:47 |
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| phaidros | hi, how could I get rid of "wlan0_rename" and get a useful name for the device? | 16:10 |
| phaidros | is udev 70-persistent-net-rules the correct approach here? | 16:11 |
| abbe | phaidros: I also changed there only | 16:12 |
| phaidros | well, anyhow system does not bother what is in the udev conf for that mac address :) | 16:12 |
| phaidros | abbe: worked? | 16:12 |
| abbe | phaidros: obviously, it worked :) | 16:12 |
| abbe | phaidros: SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTRS{address}=="00:13:20:b7:55:0a", NAME="fxp0" | 16:13 |
| phaidros | ok, because I *get* the eth1 then, but it has no wireless extensions, meanwhile wlan0_rename still exists and has wireless extesnsions o.O | 16:13 |
| abbe | phaidros: BtW, thats my wired NIC | 16:13 |
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| phaidros | yeah, doesn't matter for the rule :) | 16:14 |
| abbe | phaidros: wlan0_rename is your Wireless interface, right ? | 16:14 |
| phaidros | abbe: yes. | 16:15 |
| phaidros | the resultung *eth1* seems like a virtual device I 've seen when using madwifi (with atheros cards) | 16:15 |
| phaidros | is there another udev rule for wifi devices? or where comes the wlan0_rename come from? | 16:16 |
| abbe | phaidros: try 'modprobe -r' to remove wifi driver and that interface | 16:17 |
| abbe | phaidros: and then attempt modprobe again to load the wifi driver | 16:17 |
| phaidros | already tried that | 16:17 |
| andersin | Is there a way to access gutsy-backports in the PPA? | 16:19 |
| abbe | phaidros: did you tried ifdown-ing the interfaces ? | 16:19 |
| phaidros | abbe: yes | 16:21 |
| phaidros | abbe: I am cinfused because the udev rule creates the eth1 device, but still wlan0_rename exists and is the only one with wireless extensions .. | 16:22 |
| phaidros | confused | 16:22 |
| abbe | phaidros: okay does your wifi requires some kind of daemon running, hmm...? | 16:23 |
| phaidros | abbe: what do you mean with daemon? | 16:24 |
| phaidros | no daemon I know of :) | 16:24 |
| ScottK | andersin: No AFAIK, but PPA questions are better asked in #launchpad. | 16:24 |
| abbe | phaidros: I mean, some background process, you should've been running in order for your wifi to work, like ipw3945d for ipw3945 wifi | 16:25 |
| geser | phaidros: have you restarted udev? | 16:25 |
| phaidros | abbe: oh, ok .. first time in my life I see those demons : iwl3945 | 16:25 |
| phaidros | what are they for? | 16:25 |
| phaidros | geser: yes | 16:25 |
| abbe | phaidros: they're for some firmware thingie | 16:26 |
| phaidros | abbe: there are three: iwl3945 iwl3945/0 iwl3945/1 | 16:26 |
| geser | phaidros: check also if there is an other rule for eth1 in that file | 16:26 |
| abbe | phaidros: I think they're holding your wifi interface | 16:26 |
| phaidros | geser: udev conf is fine, triple checken and usually works on my machines | 16:27 |
| phaidros | checked | 16:27 |
| phaidros | abbe: but those processes should terminate when rmod'ing | 16:27 |
| phaidros | *test* | 16:27 |
| phaidros | gone | 16:27 |
| phaidros | ok, after modprobe the 3 processes are back, even restarted udev again in between | 16:28 |
| phaidros | and have 2 devoces, one eth1 (unusable, looks löike a virtual one), and still wlan0_rename with all functions | 16:29 |
| phaidros | ok, as I interpretate: I have seen on madwifi (driver for atheros) a master device (usually wlan0) and created virtual devices (eg ath0) | 16:30 |
| phaidros | the renamed eth1 looks very similar to the madwifi wlan0 .. | 16:30 |
| abbe | phaidros: fgrep -Ri wlan /etc might help ;) | 16:31 |
| andersin | ScottK: thanks | 16:31 |
| phaidros | how or where do virtual devices get created with the new 80211 ? | 16:31 |
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| phaidros | abbe: | 17:01 |
| phaidros | oops | 17:01 |
| phaidros | abbe: furhter than 75-persistent-net-generator.rules I can find nothing related o.O | 17:01 |
| abbe | phaidros: sorry I went away | 17:04 |
| abbe | phaidros: okay | 17:04 |
| abbe | phaidros: you're running Gutsy or Hardy ? | 17:05 |
| phaidros | hardy .. | 17:06 |
| phaidros | with gutsy I'd have gone to #ubuntu :) | 17:07 |
| ScottK | Then #ubuntu+1 | 17:08 |
| phaidros | ho ok :) | 17:09 |
| phaidros | ScottK: but I guess this is dev related because directly related to the new 80211 stack and its handling in ubuntu | 17:09 |
| phaidros | so, here or +1 ? | 17:10 |
| abbe | phaidros: /topic :) | 17:10 |
| phaidros | abbe: ik, still undecided :) | 17:10 |
| phaidros | ok | 17:10 |
| phaidros | :p | 17:10 |
| ScottK | I'd say #ubuntu+1 would be better, but it's not otherwise busy here so I don't know that it matters much right now. | 17:11 |
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| ubuntu-mateusz | Hi, I cant get help on #ubuntu my lvm2 installation doesnt boot, no error, it freezes on using mode 1920x800 | 22:00 |
| ubuntu-mateusz | ? | 22:03 |
| Mithrandir | ubuntu-mateusz: this channel is not for support, sorry. | 22:14 |
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| avb | hi all | 23:14 |
| avb | is it possible to backport latest audacious from -dev? | 23:14 |
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| avb | from hardy to gutsy | 23:15 |
| minghua | avb: Please follow the instructions in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports#head-37a793d5ee480081f1c9f19e07fcdcdae5e6a9ed | 23:22 |
| avb | ah, thanks | 23:23 |
| avb | sorry, havent seen this page | 23:23 |
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| jono | hey all - anyone know the name of that ubuntu site that shows the latest bugs, forums threads etc and updates them in realtime? | 23:40 |
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