[00:11] <Ubulette> asac, please sponsor mozclient 0.04, nss & nspr and sm 1.1.8 (all branches pushed to lp, tarballs are on my site at their usual place)
[12:42] <asac> Ubulette: any regressions for existing nss/nspr depends?
[12:42] <asac> rdepends ;)
[12:45] <Ubulette> what do you mean ?
[12:46] <Ubulette> asac, ^^
[12:49] <asac> just wondered if you tested old firefox/xulrunner and evolution with the new nss installed
[12:49] <asac> i can test that too though
[12:49] <asac> (evolution with imaps or pops to trigger nss usage)
[12:51] <Ubulette> it should work. the only possible issue is SEC_StringToOID (moved from libnss3 to libnssutils3) so some packages may need a respin. not sure which ones use this symbol
[12:52] <asac> why do we split the package?
[12:52] <asac> instead of just shipping everything in libss3 ?
[12:53] <Ubulette> it's not me, nss guys introduced a whole new lib with tons of functions but only this one moved, the others are new
[12:53] <Ubulette> -this one+this symbol
[12:53] <asac> yeah ... but we could keep those in the same package, couldn't we?
[12:53] <Ubulette> it is
[12:54] <Ubulette> both are in libnss3-1d
[12:54] <asac> ok if i there is no bin NEW package then most likely fine
[12:54] <Ubulette> no NEW
[12:59] <Ubulette> asac, could you push mozclient too ?
[13:00] <asac> yeah ... i will look and upload all
[13:03] <asac> Ubulette: have you seen miro discussion on ubuntu-devel(-discuss) ?
[13:03] <Ubulette> nope
[13:03] <asac> let me look
[13:03] <asac> are you subscribed to any?
[13:04] <asac> (of the -devel lists)
[13:04] <Ubulette> no, i have enough mails already.
[13:04] <asac> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2008-February/003279.html
[13:05] <asac> is miro in archive still using xul 1.8? don't we have 1.5 somewhere?
[13:06] <asac> hmm looks like its using xulrunner-1.9
[13:06] <Ubulette> ?? it's using *your* xul1.9 patch
[13:06] <Ubulette> yes
[13:07] <asac> yeah ... couldn't remember if that was already uploaded
[13:07] <asac> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2008-February/003286.html
[13:07] <asac> claims that it crashes frequently?
[13:07] <Ubulette> it doesn't for me
[13:08]  * asac looking at bugs
[13:08] <Ubulette> someone reported a corruption since it's using xul1.9 http://geekport.com/files/mirocrop.png
[13:08] <asac> Ubulette: you don't see private crashes, do you? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/miro/
[13:11] <asac> hmmm ... miro uses xine?
[13:11] <Ubulette> yes
[13:12] <asac> thats a blocker for main/CD i guess
[13:12] <asac> i think we only have gstreamer in main
[13:14] <asac> Ubulette: i will talk to pitti how we can get you access to all private crashers
[13:16] <asac> Ubulette: can you see bug 185194 now?
[13:16] <ubotu> Bug 185194 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/185194 is private
[13:17] <Ubulette> hm, yes, with a lock at the top right
[13:17] <asac> ok ... i will subscribe mt to all current private crashers of miro for now
[13:18] <asac> the procedure for opening those up is like: review stacktrace for any sensible data ... then remvoe the CoreDump (if the retracer didn't do that yet) and open the bug
[13:18] <Ubulette> btw, i do miro trunk (aka 1.5) in my ppa, your xul1.9 patch is no longer ok
[13:19] <asac> when will 1.5 be out?
[13:19] <Ubulette> never, it's trunk. it's an always ahead version, like b4pre
[13:20] <asac> ah ... so the next is 2.0 ?
[13:20] <asac> e.g. 1.5 is dev version and final releases get full major versions?
[13:20] <Ubulette> not sure. they have only 1 branch, it could be 1.1
[13:20] <Ubulette> yes
[13:21] <asac> is 1.5 their name?
[13:21] <asac> or is it something you picked?
[13:21] <Ubulette> their name
[13:21] <asac> ok
[13:21] <asac> any ETA for next release from trunk?
[13:22] <Ubulette> 1.1 is out
[13:22] <Ubulette> even 1.1.2 for linux
[13:23] <asac> but thats not a new branch forked away from trunk recently?
[13:23] <asac> e.g. just a maintenance release for the 1.0 release
[13:25] <asac> ok i think you should see all current crashers now
[13:25] <asac> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/miro/
[13:25] <asac> most look like xine
[13:25] <Ubulette> https://develop.participatoryculture.org/trac/democracy/browser
[13:26] <Ubulette> looks flat to me. their trunk is just the dev branch, that is taggued from time to time
[13:27] <asac> strange ... but still they use a version that wouldn't fit in between the previous and next release
[13:28] <Ubulette> https://develop.participatoryculture.org/trac/democracy/browser/trunk/tv/resources/app.config.template
[13:28] <Ubulette> 1.5 is defined there
[13:29] <Ubulette> when they released, they change appVersion accordingly
[13:30] <asac> yeah ... wierd versioning scheme i would say
[13:30] <Ubulette> http://xkcd.com/149/
[13:31] <asac> hehe
[13:39] <Ubulette> i've written to google to ask for permission to ship their icons for prism-webapps
[13:39] <Ubulette> they said, expect 4 weeks for an answer
[13:40] <asac> which mail did you use?
[13:40] <Ubulette> the form online
[13:40] <Ubulette> there's no email, except press@
[13:41] <asac> maybe you should check on -devel as well
[13:41] <asac> (mail)
[13:41] <asac> for firefox we have an exception to ship a non-free icon
[13:42] <asac> no idea if we can derive a general line from it though.
[13:42] <Ubulette> i've asked on motu weeks ago, they told me to ask google
[13:42] <asac> Ubulette: yeah ... i will raise this. maybe you need to ask technical-board for a decision if its ok to include non-free images in main/universe
[13:43] <Ubulette> isn't this a different topic ?
[13:43] <Ubulette> i need both right ?
[13:43] <asac> yeah ... getting google permission is one half only
[13:44] <Ubulette> icons are already in hardy through prism, but upstream removed them from svn
[13:44] <asac> yeah ... might be a bug :)
[13:44] <asac> lets see
[13:45] <asac> i don't think i can get an answer this weekend
[13:46] <Ubulette> noone complained so far
[13:46] <asac> which doesn't imply that its ok :)
[13:46] <asac> worst case we add the icon package to multiverse (given that google grants the right to distribute those at all)
[13:57] <asac> bug 180879
[13:57] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 180879 in prism "Desktop categories may need changing" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180879
[13:58] <Ubulette> yes
[13:58] <Ubulette> i know but webapps are no part of prism
[13:58] <Ubulette> i've created prism-webapps for that
[13:59] <Ubulette> but i'm stuck by icons
[13:59] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/prism-webapps/
[13:59] <asac> that page exists ... for whatever reason
[13:59] <asac> nothing published though
[14:00] <Ubulette> probably me, but obviously not complete
[14:00] <Ubulette> i've trashed the bzr branches for now
[14:00] <asac> ah
[14:00] <asac> any ppa package?
[14:00] <Ubulette> yes
[14:00] <asac> just wondering why that page exists
[14:01] <asac> ok ... that might be one reason
[14:01] <Ubulette> http://ppa.launchpad.net/fta/ubuntu/pool/main/p/prism-webapps/
[14:02] <asac> k
[14:03] <Ubulette> I need to move the other webapps in there but because of the prism version, i'll have to bump mine
[14:03] <Ubulette> or use an epoch
[14:05] <asac> you could just use PRISM_VERSION+split as upstream version if you don't want to go epoch i guess
[14:06] <Ubulette> ?
[14:06] <Ubulette> prism is 0.8+, prism-webapps is 0.01 so either I do 1:0.01 or start at 1.00
[14:07] <Ubulette> bahh http://paste.ubuntu.com/4373/
[14:07] <asac> why can't you use 0.01?
[14:08] <asac> what has happened to mozsetup.py?
[14:09] <Ubulette> prism-google-reader | 0.8+svn20071115r8030-0ubuntu1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy/universe Packages
[14:09] <asac> ah
[14:09] <asac> go epoch then i guess
[14:10] <Ubulette> i really need to update prism as xul dropped support for xpm a while ago
[14:10] <asac> is that intentional?
[14:10] <asac> i mean why would they drop xpm?
[14:11] <asac> (or just for the window icon?)
[14:11] <Ubulette> they obsoleted xpm and prefer png now
[14:11] <asac> yeah ... thats fine. but still xpm support should be avail
[14:12] <asac> maybe its a build-option to reenable?
[14:13] <asac> hmm ffox really doesn't open xpm images anymore
[14:13] <Ubulette> mozilla bug 410215
[14:13] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 410215 in Widget: Gtk "GTK's .xpm decoding is weird, stop using XPM as the default window icon" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=410215
[14:13] <Ubulette> http://kazehakase.sourceforge.jp/?date=20080129  "supported xulrunner 1.9 detection"
[14:14] <Ubulette> we should do that at some point: http://beuno.com.ar/archives/48
[14:16] <asac> yeah ... imo we should wait a bit. not all distros may have 1.0 bzr yet
[14:17] <asac> and our branches are not that huge after all :)
[14:17] <asac> but the new format rocks for sure
[14:17] <asac> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~asac/firefox/mozilla.apps.1.8.0
[14:17] <asac> that wasn't possible at all with the old format. the new works almost as fast as git
[14:18] <Ubulette> what is this branch for ?
[14:18] <asac> all security backports we carry - that will land soon in mozilla CVS
[14:19] <Ubulette> manual or scripted ?
[14:19] <asac> for 1.5 branch
[14:19] <asac> the upstream landing?
[14:19] <Ubulette> no, this bzr branch
[14:20] <asac> well ... upstream cvs doesn't receive any checkins atm :) ... so manual, yes.
[14:20] <Ubulette> waa
[14:23] <Ubulette> damn, this miro xul patch is a pain to update
[14:23] <asac> the conflicts didn't look that hard
[14:23] <asac> whats the problem?
[14:24] <Ubulette> context is too big so large chunks are rejected, almost everything
[14:24] <asac> ah ok ...  i am used to that ;)
[14:24] <Ubulette> and every few days, it fails again
[14:24] <asac> you can split hunks in emacs quite easily
[14:25] <asac> lets get that patch to a reasonable state and submit it upstream i guess;)
[14:44] <Ubulette> hmm, miro ftbfs, i don't know why
[14:45] <Ubulette> http://paste.ubuntu.com/4375/
[14:47] <asac> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'uname'
[14:48] <asac> is that due to xul 1.9 patch?
[14:49] <Ubulette> nope
[14:50] <Ubulette>   File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/Pyrex/Compiler/Scanning.py", line 190, in initial_compile_time_env
[14:50] <Ubulette>     for name, value in zip(names, platform.uname()):
[14:50] <Ubulette> it seems it's an error in python, not in miro
[14:52] <Ubulette> in python-pyrex
[14:57] <asac> maybe uname has been moved to somewhere else?
[14:57] <Ubulette> it's in os, but they used platform
[14:59] <Ubulette> it seems to work if i change it to os.uname()
[14:59] <asac> strange
[15:12] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/pyrex/0.9.6.4-1
[15:12] <asac> that upload?
[15:16] <Ubulette>      pyrex |  0.9.6.4-1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Sources
[15:16] <Ubulette> yes
[15:16] <Ubulette> but in cli, it works
[15:17] <asac> what works in cli?
[15:17] <Ubulette> >>> import platform
[15:17] <Ubulette> >>> platform.uname()
[15:17] <Ubulette> ('Linux', 'ix', '2.6.24-5-generic', '#1 SMP Thu Jan 24 19:45:21 UTC 2008', 'i686', '')
[15:17] <asac> platform.uname()?
[15:18] <asac> sure you are running py2.5?
[15:18] <Ubulette> and pyrex does just that
[15:19] <asac> hmm ... no idea without looking
[15:19] <asac> maybe platform isn't imported?
[15:22] <Ubulette> I think it is, at least there's an import at the top
[15:24] <Ubulette> get https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~fta/democracy/miro.trunk   #47, use debian/rules get-current-source
[15:24] <Ubulette> for me it fails with http://paste.ubuntu.com/4375/
[15:25] <Ubulette> i have to run, i'll be back in 2~3h
[15:28] <asac> cu
[18:13] <Ubulette> back
[18:14] <Ubulette> asac, did you up something ?
[18:14] <Ubulette> you said midi ;)
[18:30] <Ubulette> asac, did you try miro ?