[00:13] <unagi> !delorme
[00:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about delorme - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:26] <yasahiro> im having a small problem with amarok...
[00:27] <anon32> yasahiro, I hate it when that happens...
[00:27] <yasahiro> it can play my flac lossless files just fine... but mp3 files wont play..
[00:28] <anon32> !restrictedformats
[00:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[00:28] <anon32> have you read that? sorry to assume
[00:28] <yasahiro> well, i have installed the restricted extras... thats how i got dvd's to play
[00:28] <anon32> hmm
[00:29] <anon32> more specifically, do you have libxine1-ffmpeg installed?
[00:29] <Dhraakellian> http://rafb.net/p/8ZkDlQ74.html
[00:29] <Dhraakellian> Y or N?
[00:29] <Dhraakellian> or does it not really matter too much?
[00:29] <yasahiro> libxine1-ffmpeg is already the newest version
[00:30] <anon32> Dhraakellian, are you upgrading ubuntu versions?
[00:30] <anon32> it's probably harmless
[00:30] <Dhraakellian> from a sudo aptitude safe-upgrade on a fresh install
[00:30] <anon32> if it's a fresh install, go ahead and hit "yes"
[00:30] <Dhraakellian> since adept updater was giving me grief
[00:31] <anon32> yasahiro, try starting amarok on the command line and see if it spews any errors
[00:31] <Dhraakellian> oh, and I'd just like to say for the record that irssi proxy totally rocks.  (still connected via the laptop, but using konversation on the desktop, where copying and pasting the errors is easier)
[00:32] <yasahiro> all that happened was a dialog came up saying amarok currently cant play mp3 files, and gives me an option to install mp3 support
[00:32] <Dhraakellian> and I'll stay connected even though I'm about to reboot due to a kernel update in that safe-upgrade
[00:41] <echosystm> does anyone know of a stable distribution with kde4?
[00:42] <GerrySly> hey guys, is there a way to continue an interrupted sftp upload?
[00:42] <GerrySly> I had a power failure whilst uploading a 1.6GB file and I was half way through, is there a way I can continue from where I left off?
[00:45] <anon32> where's the list of Hardy release goals?
[00:46] <Dhraakellian> echosystm: both Kubuntu and Suse let you install KDE4 stuff alongside KDE3.  For more help with KDE4 on kubuntu, try #kubuntu-kde4
[00:46] <echosystm> but is it available in the repo?
[00:46] <Dhraakellian> not sure
[00:47] <Dhraakellian> haven't tried it since some time around beta2
[00:47] <Dhraakellian> not with Kubuntu, at least
[00:47] <Dhraakellian> ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[00:48] <echosystm> seems like fedora is the only major distro that has kde4 by default
[00:48] <ubuntu> !grub
[00:48] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[00:48] <Dhraakellian> F9, maybe
[00:48] <Dhraakellian> F8 is still KDE3.5
[00:48] <Dhraakellian> !kde4
[00:48] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[00:49] <echosystm> f9 is not stable is it?
[00:50] <Ubiquitous> hi
[00:51] <Ubiquitous> anyone there?
[00:51] <Dhraakellian> echosystm: I don't believe so
[00:52] <Dhraakellian> Ubiquitous: what's the issue?  I can't guarantee that I can help, but I can guarantee that I can't answer a question if you don't ask it
[00:52] <ubuntu> new updates messed up my grub, can someone help me ?
[00:52] <ubuntu> It gives 'File Not Found' in booting.
[00:58] <anon32> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/HardyDesktopEffects <-- the hell? compiz as default? Also, why does the wiki run on HTTPS?
[01:00] <NightBird> anon32: compiz is default in ubuntu already...
[01:00] <NightBird> I think...
[01:00] <LjL> NightBird: correct (ubuntu though not kubuntu)
[01:00] <nacho_> hola
[01:01] <Ubiquitous> hi!
[01:01] <nacho_> habla alguien en español
[01:01] <anon32> NightBird, that's wonderful... now my ATI setup can be even more broken than it already is.
[01:01] <NightBird> yeah... the next kubuntu may be using kde4 by default which comes with it's own set of eye candy
[01:01] <PriceChild> anon32, it only turns on for cards not in its blacklist...
[01:01] <PriceChild> !cfblacklist
[01:01] <ubotu> Desktop Effects are supported on graphics cards that use the default Intel and ATI drivers and the restricted !NVIDIA drivers, except for the following, which are blacklisted due to stability/compatibility issues: Intel 965, ATI Rs480 and Rv350, ATI Mobility x300, x600 and x700 - Join #compiz-fusion for anything not officially supported by Ubuntu
[01:02]  * NightBird could be running compiz with his ati card with only minor problems..
[01:02] <anon32> mine's not in the blacklist, but it will definitely still crash my system
[01:02] <anon32> so yeah...
[01:02] <anon32> also, according to the specs, it will fall back to using software rendering?
[01:02] <nacho_> any people speak spanihs
[01:03] <PriceChild> !es | nacho_
[01:03] <ubotu> nacho_: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[01:03] <NightBird> anon32: I think compiz tries to fire up the gnome interface if it fails
[01:04] <NightBird> er... the gnome window manager
[01:04] <anon32> according to the spec, it will call XRender in the absense of OpenGL
[01:04] <NightBird> yeah
[01:04] <anon32> that's software isn't it?
[01:05] <NightBird> no, XRender requires support from the video card
[01:05] <anon32> hmm
[01:05] <NightBird> er... from the driver
[01:06] <anon32> maybe it doesn't fail that much then. Still would like to see it blacklisted for chips using the "radeon" driver though.
[01:06] <fivetwentysix> If I install KDE 4.0 can i still use 3.5 ?
[01:06] <anon32> yes
[01:06] <NightBird> doesn't the open source radeon driver support aiglx anyways?
[01:06] <fivetwentysix> Do I have to do anything special or is the option always available by default on the sessions menu?
[01:06] <anon32> NightBird, yes, but the driver sucks
[01:07] <NightBird> it'll appear as an option on the sessions menu
[01:07] <anon32> it randomly locks my system up for example
[01:09] <NightBird> anon32: that stinks... I'm assuming that fglrx doesn't support your card then too?
[01:09] <anon32> it does, but fglrx is broken
[01:09] <anon32> (gah, why does vsync make my screen tear diagonally?)
[01:09] <anon32> and... why do my displays have to run at the same resolution?
[01:10] <anon32> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/dpkg-lzma <-- lzma will kill older systems
[01:15] <NightBird> ah the classic trade off... which do you value more... speed or size...
[01:17] <anon32> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/RestrictedManagerRewrite <-- what the restricted manager really needs to be able to do is handle custom xorg.conf's. And if not, fail gracefully.
[01:23] <Hirvinen> A local root exploit in Gentoo. In Ubuntu as well: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=209460
[01:25] <ForgeAus> Nightbird whats wrong with balance?
[01:25] <anon32> Hirvinen, shit, you're right
[01:26] <Hirvinen> Yup. This is bad.
[01:26] <anon32> together with a remote unprivileged exploit, that would be major pwnage
[01:27] <unagi> !gps
[01:27] <anon32> and I'm sure there's at least one of those in firefox
[01:27] <ubotu> Street mapping and GPS navigation software available for Ubuntu includes !GpsDrive (GTK, raster maps, free), !Roadnav (GTK, free vector maps from Tiger and OSM, free), !GoogleEarth (Qt, proprietary vector maps, proprietary)
[01:27] <unagi> !googleearth
[01:27] <ubotu> Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html - A package for Ubuntu is available in the !Medibuntu repository
[01:27] <Hirvinen> Mentioned exploit works also at least on older 2.6.17-12. Not on 2.6.20-16 though.
[01:29] <unagi> !geepeeyes
[01:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about geepeeyes - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:29] <unagi> !info geepeeyes
[01:29] <ubotu> Package geepeeyes does not exist in gutsy
[01:30] <anon32> under desktop resolutions, the option 1280x800 doesn't exist, but if I just add it to xorg,conf, will it work?
[01:30] <Hirvinen> !ops | Sorry, if I infringe on policy, but I think this locals root exploit, https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=209460 , works at least on Hardy 2.6.24-7 and Edgy 2.6.17-12. I think it would be topic-worthy.
[01:30] <ubotu> Sorry, if I infringe on policy, but I think this locals root exploit, https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=209460 , works at least on Hardy 2.6.24-7 and Edgy 2.6.17-12. I think it would be topic-worthy.: Help! Riddell, Tm_T, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild or jussi01!
[01:33] <ForgeAus> lol windows doesn't even let me browse to that site
[01:35] <unagi> anyone know how to use google earth with gps?
[01:49] <gundam_rx78nt1> man it's quiet in here...
[01:50] <mixed> what utilities are there in kubuntu to manage hard drive space? I have a 500 gig HD and am only using about 200 gigs
[01:51] <gundam_rx78nt1> what do you mean by manage?
[01:51] <mixed> I want to view existing partitions, space used and space free then I suppose there's another utility that will allow me to create extended partitions on the free space
[01:52] <gundam_rx78nt1> qparted is one and if
[01:52] <gundam_rx78nt1> you want to see it on the command line, I believe df -h would do...
[01:54] <mixed> on SuSE there's a utility that gives a graphical view of the hard drive like qparted although you can only view the information, I'm going to see what utilities are available in synaptic
[02:03] <thistle> I am running kubuntu 7.10 AMD64 on a Dell Vostro 1700 with the Intel 3945 abg wireless card.  KNetworkManager diesn'see the card at all.  KWiFiManager can configure the card for WEP but the wireless interface drops a lot of data and runs really slow.  The Dell D820 I'm on right now is running kubuntu 7.10 i386 with the same card and works great.  I'm not sure where to go with it.  Any ideas?
[02:08] <heinkel_111> !flash
[02:08] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[02:09] <heinkel_111> dapper and edgy....what about an update
[02:09] <heinkel_111> !flash 64 bit
[02:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash 64 bit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:10] <gundam_rx78nt1> thistle: did you check if you can see wireless extensions with iwconfig and then confirm that it was up with ifconfig <cardname> up?
[02:11] <gundam_rx78nt1> Sorry if I am asking the obvious
[02:15] <thistle> I can get the card to come up.  It will associate the the access point but it drops data like mad.  I have been temped to see of the live i386 DVD had the same issue.  Could it be the AMD64 build?  There is a bug with nearly the same issue that has nearly the same description that has been open for quite a while.  It was assigned to the kernel team if I recall.
[02:17] <thistle> better to check the obvious.  it will bite you every time.
[02:20] <mani213> whats a good dvd player for linux?
[02:22] <thistle> It may not be pretty but I normally use VLC.  It plays such a wide variety of content that I use it for almost everything.
[02:22] <mani213> vlc is not a dvd player isnt that only for avi files etc?
[02:23] <thistle> It will play DVDs
[02:23] <Thingus> mani213: VLC plays almost every format there is.
[02:23] <mani213> what about ogle player?
[02:24] <Thingus> mani213: If you have the DVD codecs install, Kaffiene will play DVDS.
[02:24] <heinkel_111> is it possible to roll back to the4 previous verwsion of the flashplayer-plugin? It actually worked...
[02:24] <unagi_> kan kaffiene play iso?
[02:24] <mani213> lets say i dont have condecs installed then how would i install them?
[02:24] <unagi_> !codec
[02:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:24] <heinkel_111> i am on kubuntu 7.10 AMD 64 btw
[02:27] <unagi> how do i recover the password of my nick
[02:28] <wire> hello
[02:29] <unregistered> h
[02:29] <unregistered> y is no 1 talking?
[02:30] <NightBird> because no one is asking questions?
[02:30] <unregistered> ok
[02:39] <gundam_rx78nt1> is there any kde application that can change the desktop resolution with a click of the mouse (I mean gives you a list of resolution options and you click the one you want)?
[02:40] <gundam_rx78nt1> I have laptop running 1280x800. My projector is 1024x768 and I would like to change the desktop resolution on the  fly.
[02:41] <heinkel_111> gundam, at least there is xrandr which does just that
[02:41] <heinkel_111> look for KDE + xrandr or maybe krandrd
[02:42] <heinkel_111> sorry krandr...just guessing WILDLY here ;)
[02:42] <gundam_rx78nt1> what does xrandr means?
[02:43] <gundam_rx78nt1> grx78.NT1
[02:43] <heinkel_111> it is a program, it works from the command line so not exactly what you were looking for
[02:43] <gundam_rx78nt1> ok, let me see if it works.
[02:44] <heinkel_111> type man xrandr and get confused ;)
[02:44] <heinkel_111> try googling a little maybe, i am no expert at this and it is more than 1 year since i used it
[02:48] <gundam_rx78nt1> heinkel, grander is what I was looking for.
[02:48] <gundam_rx78nt1> grandr
[02:48] <spawn57> what's with the flash play update ? ..
[02:48] <spawn57> flash plugin update ..in ubuntu gutsy
[02:48] <Artimus> Is there something I have to add to xorg.conf to make xrandr work in Kubuntu?  "xrandr -s 640x480" does nothing.  Neither does 800x600.
[02:49] <gundam_rx78nt1> Artimus: try grandr
[02:49] <heinkel_111> spawn57---if you are using konqueror, DONT UPGRADE FLAsH
[02:49] <X9nLinux1> Anybody have an idea how much of people in / visiting this chatroom uses Linux on a Mac?
[02:50] <heinkel_111> some idiot has put in an update which breaks flash
[02:50] <spawn57> ah crap, it just got updated
[02:50] <heinkel_111> welcome to the club
[02:50] <spawn57> great...
[02:50] <gundam_rx78nt1> does anybody know of a program in kde that will go through your music collection and find duplicates?
[02:50] <spawn57> what happens with it, konqueror crashes?
[02:51] <heinkel_111> i feel that the kubuntu users are being left in the cold, it works with firefox so ubuntu will release the upgrade
[02:51] <heinkel_111> and distribute to kubuntu users as well
[02:51] <gundam_rx78nt1> hell, that isn't the only thing... do we want to make a list
[02:51] <heinkel_111> and screw us for using konqueror
[02:51] <heinkel_111> and kde
[02:51] <spawn57> is there a distro that's kde centric?
[02:52] <spawn57> ..should I move to opensuse? ... i hate rpms though
[02:52] <gundam_rx78nt1> Broken things that worked in Feisty and why did I have to upgrade?
[02:53] <gundam_rx78nt1> spawn57: you can "tough it out" and learn with us so we can contribute to the community...
[02:53] <heinkel_111> spawn57: there is only one thing I can say, right now I feel sorry for kubuntu piggibacking on kubuntu
[02:53] <ForgeAus> lol I just thought of something, does Cygwin work under Wine?
[02:53]  * heinkel_111 is considering debian
[02:53] <spawn57> debian is sweet, but it's slow
[02:53] <spawn57> that's why I used ubuntu
[02:53] <spawn57> kubuntu
[02:53] <heinkel_111> after 3 years with kubuntu
[02:54] <heinkel_111> i am having a hard time as a second-class cistizen in the ubuntu universe at least
[02:54] <spawn57> ..yeah contributing, I dunno where to start though
[02:54] <gundam_rx78nt1> heinkel: I just don't like the changes they make from one version to the other without considering if we would like it.
[02:55] <gundam_rx78nt1> For example: kdm theme manager, worked in Feisty. Not in Gutsy.
[02:55] <heinkel_111> i don't like the fact that they upgrade for kubuntu users without taking into consideration that the upgrade should actually work for our system
[02:56] <gundam_rx78nt1> I have had more problems with gutsy on my desktop since I upgraded than I did when I messed up my installation of gentoo on the same box.
[02:57] <heinkel_111> that is work for kubuntu users that give a flying f%"#%!"# about mozilla and gtk based apps
[02:57] <heinkel_111> anyway, i have some shrimps that needs to be eaten. cya!
[02:58] <gundam_rx78nt1> oh well... unless I do a LFS, then I will never get the perfect distro.
[02:58] <gundam_rx78nt1> enjoy.
[02:59] <gundam_rx78nt1> !lm-sensors
[02:59] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[02:59] <dcc> hi
[02:59] <dcc> yes
[03:00] <gundam_rx78nt1> hello dcc.
[03:01] <unregistered> whos the op of this channel?
[03:02] <gundam_rx78nt1> I don't know.
[03:02] <unregistered> can i be op? just to try, i promise to be good
[03:02] <Dr_willis> lfs perfect? Hmm...  Definitions may vary. :)
[03:02] <Dr_willis> The ops are hidden.
[03:02] <unregistered> how to make them come out then?
[03:02] <Dr_willis> they only op theirselfs as needed.
[03:02] <alejandro> spanish help
[03:02] <dcc> yes
[03:02] <unregistered> icic
[03:02] <hydrogen> I bet if you continue to stay off topic you will find one pretty quickly
[03:03] <dcc> asl
[03:03] <dcc> hi poh
[03:03] <gundam_rx78nt1> !spanish
[03:03] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[03:03] <dcc> hey
[03:04] <dcc> i dont know what ur saying
[03:04] <gundam_rx78nt1> did you get that alejandro?
[03:04] <dcc> me???????????
[03:04] <dcc> wat ur name plssss
[03:04] <Dr_willis> dcc,  try making some sence.
[03:04] <Dr_willis> This is not a social room.
[03:05] <dcc> sori..........
[03:05] <gundam_rx78nt1> ok, does anybody knows of any application in kubuntu that will go through your music collection and find any duplicates?
[03:07] <dcc> k
[03:08] <batis610> i've just installed vmware... how can'i switch between my system and the virtual machine, because while virtual machine is running i cant use my system?
[03:10] <X9nLinux1> Can Edgy or Feisty be installed on an old B&W Tower?
[03:10] <biovore> old B&W tower?
[03:10] <X9nLinux1> Can Edgy or Feisty be installed on an old B&W Mac Tower?
[03:10] <Dr_willis> !ppc
[03:10] <ubotu> PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[03:10] <X9nLinux1> yeah
[03:11] <biovore> Mac?
[03:11] <X9nLinux1> yes
[03:11] <biovore> the old macs.. no
[03:12] <biovore> I there there is linux for them.. but this distro is ment for newer hardware.
[03:12] <X9nLinux1> its a new world G3 @.... maybe 3-400 mhz
[03:12] <biovore> oh
[03:12] <MadTony> ppc was also AMiga don't forget
[03:12] <Dr_willis> Original amigas was 68000's
[03:12] <biovore> yup
[03:12] <MadTony> as were original macs..
[03:12] <Dr_willis> :) later they had ppc add on stuff. Never had one of those.
[03:12] <Dr_willis> Ive had very bad luck with PPC linux on my imacDV
[03:13] <MadTony> and the newer amigas are g3
[03:13] <MadTony> they've followed each others arc pretty closely
[03:13] <MadTony> oh and there's a g4 amiga also
[03:14] <MadTony> yes you can find the info on the net.......
[03:14] <X9nLinux1> yeah... like I can find a 1931 comic strip at the library of congress (eventually)
[03:16] <X9nLinux1> what I mean is... it takes a lot to ferret out info sometimes.  Not because there is none... but because there is so much to wade through at times before finding whatever item I really wanted at that moment.
[03:16] <MadTony> I'll make it easier http://www.funnyphotos.net.au/images/microsoft-word-gansta-edition1.jpg
[03:16] <MadTony> oops
[03:16] <MadTony> wrong one, haha
[03:17] <MadTony> http://www.compuquick-amigadirect.com/cgi-bin/shop/shop.cgi?keywords=_new_amigas&cart_id=
[03:21] <Negatratoron> Hi-hi
[03:22] <X9nLinux1> Well, Dapper has given me a bit of grief on older iMac, so maybe putting feisty on the G3 tower might work better than the other configuration.
[03:22] <Negatratoron> Do any of y'all have time now to help with kubuntu crashing randomly?
[03:23] <batis610> i'm in kde4... and i've removed the clock on my taskbar.... ow can i restor it please... i found taskbar settings nowhere!!??
[03:23] <batis610> i'm in kde4... and i've removed the clock on my taskbar.... how can i restore it please... i found the taskbar settings nowhere!!??
[03:23] <adz21c> batis610: the clock is a plasma widget, go to add widgets and drag directly from the window to the panel
[03:23] <adz21c> batis610: also kde4 questions belog in #kubuntu-kde4 :-)
[03:25] <batis610> adz21c: thks
[03:25] <adz21c> batis610: np
[03:26] <stdin> !nickspam > danopia
[03:27] <danopia> ...
[03:29] <Negatratoron> Well, I'll just start spilling the data that I have on the crashes and hope that some of y'all have some idea what's going on:
[03:29] <Negatratoron> I have an excerpt from /var/log/kern.log pastebinned:
[03:29] <Negatratoron> http://pastebin.com/m6e4d80f1
[03:30] <Negatratoron> The meaty error bit is near the bottom
[03:30] <Negatratoron> The computer seems to crash when it's loading big things into the memory...
[03:30] <Negatratoron> which makes sense, because an excerpt from the excerpt from kern.log says:
[03:30] <Negatratoron> BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 81e040f8
[03:31] <Negatratoron> I really don't know what that means, but it looks like an issue with RAM allocation to my untrained eye :)
[03:31] <Negatratoron> I know that it's not a hardware problem, because Windows XP has no problems
[03:32] <Negatratoron> The computer crashes regardless of what I have selected as a graphics card driver
[03:32] <Negatratoron> And now I'll wait and see if someone has anything to say...
[03:32] <Negatratoron> lol
[03:42] <sub[t]rnl> Negatratoron➜ what kernel are you using
[03:42] <Negatratoron> Uname -a:
[03:42] <Negatratoron> Linux Kubuntu 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Fri Feb 1 04:59:50 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:43] <Negatratoron> Thank you
[03:44] <sub[t]rnl> hrm, might want to file a bug.  Be sure to include your uname, dmesg, and a lspci --vvnn
[03:44] <sub[t]rnl> !bug | Negatratoron
[03:44] <ubotu> Negatratoron: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[03:45] <Negatratoron> Okay, thank you
[03:45] <sub[t]rnl> dig around in launchpad and see if anything similar comes up before you post.  thanks
[03:45] <Negatratoron> k
[04:02] <Nutubuntu> I can't seem to change screen resolution ... how do I fix that?
[04:03] <sub[t]rnl> !resolution > Nutubuntu
[04:06] <ses59> I am looking for some help on using kvm to install xp on my computer from iso on the hard drive
[04:06] <ses59> i have read some help sheets but still unclear on how to start setting up the kvm
[04:07] <ses59> i used package manager and installed kvm on gutsy
[04:22] <subopt> I've got serious browser instability with GutsyGibbon (x86-32). The problem seems to have something to do w/Java. My browsers freeze frequently, usually when i click on a link that calls a Java popup. I've reinstalled Java and my browsers a few times now, but nothing seems to be helping. Any pointers?
[04:28] <Dr_willis> reinstalling rarely  helps under linux. :)
[04:28] <Dr_willis> Check what java version you are using perhaps?
[04:41] <ubuntu> ii
[04:46] <TastyTomato> hi, i can't get adept to run anymore
[04:47] <biovore> !aptfix
[04:47] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[04:49] <TastyTomato>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[04:49] <TastyTomato>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[04:56] <TastyTomato> got it
[04:56] <TastyTomato> thx
[05:10] <ubuntu> help me please
[05:10] <ubuntu> i have an ATI radeon sapphire x1650 card and it freezes kubuntu when it boots
[05:11] <acee1234> ive been trough unbunt/kubuntu chanells trying to fix display flickering and was told to disable compositing in my xorg  which fixed that issue but upon doing this i killed compiz any ideas i have an ati x1400
[05:11] <biovore> ati == problems
[05:11] <ubuntu> so can i get a driver or something
[05:12] <acee1234> biovore:  if there was a way to change it in my laptop i would
[05:13] <biovore> well there is ATI's driver.. but it sucks..
[05:13] <biovore> some ATI cards are better then others though..
[05:14] <ubuntu> so what do i do
[05:14] <biovore> don't do opengl stuff..
[05:14] <ubuntu> you haventy given me an answer
[05:14] <ubuntu> XD
[05:14] <acee1234> biovore: lesson dont buy compute with ati in it upon next upgrde
[05:14] <biovore> rgr
[05:14] <biovore> I get all nvidia
[05:14] <biovore> intel onboard graphics work fairly well on linux as well
[05:14] <ubuntu> i built my computer
[05:14] <ubuntu> and i like ATI very much
[05:15] <ubuntu> i have onboard graphics but i also am a hardcore gamer in windows
[05:15] <ubuntu> so thats why i need it
[05:15] <xRaich[o]2x> ATI released harddrive specifications last year. by the end of the year there should be a complete free driver for a lot of ATI cards.
[05:15] <biovore> well don't complain here.. we don;t make the ATI drivers
[05:15] <xRaich[o]2x> s/harddrive/hardware
[05:15] <biovore> that document was mostly BS
[05:15] <ubuntu> im not complaining
[05:16] <ubuntu> im asking for help
[05:16] <biovore> !ati
[05:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:16] <biovore> thats about the best you can do.. :-(
[05:16] <acee1234> so x1400 = no comp
[05:16] <acee1234> compiz
[05:16] <biovore> basicly
[05:16] <acee1234> joy
[05:16] <ubuntu> thank you very much ubotu
[05:17] <biovore> compiz requires nvidia or intell graphics
[05:17] <ubuntu> ws that so hard biovore?
[05:17] <acee1234> its a bot...
[05:18] <Nutubuntu> I am going to have to tar |untar my old ~ directory from an old drive taken from my old box, to my new Gutsy box. I'm concerned about overwriting dot-files or directories that handle kde or gnome stuff (ran both from time to time) ... and I don't know enough to know whether that's a risk. Anyone?
[05:18] <ubuntu> what is a bot
[05:18] <xRaich[o]2x> ubotu is
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <biovore> its a program that responds to commands
[05:19] <ubuntu> oh shit
[05:19] <ubuntu> my bad...
[05:19] <ubuntu> lol this is my first time using linux
[05:20] <Dr_willis> !domo ari gatto :)
[05:20] <Nutubuntu> ubuntu - the bot doesn't care :) (I had made friends with a bot in another chan, once, or thought I had -- after all, "he" always said hi to me when I /joined ...)
[05:20] <ubuntu> lol i feel like an idiot
[05:20] <ubuntu> ok but umm
[05:21] <Dr_willis> for starters ya may want to pick a better nickname  /Nick NewLinuxDood
[05:21] <ubuntu> on that website trhe bot gave me... do i just input the command for ATI
[05:21] <Dr_willis> To install the ati drivers, you have to install the proper ati packages.  The restricted-manager tool should of automated that however.
[05:21] <Nutubuntu> Dr_willis: he can probably have mine, I'm going to change it to I-am-SO-stupid-sometimes
[05:22] <ubuntu> ok
[05:22] <Dr_willis> Of course with ati - a lot of  getting ATI to work right.. can be a gamble.
[05:22] <idontknowanythin> hey
[05:22] <idontknowanythin> lol
[05:22] <idontknowanythin> but like i cant even start kubuntu with the card in
[05:22] <idontknowanythin> so will that driver enable it?
[05:22] <NIghtFire> aside from bein a citified greenhorn a "dude" is also a sore on a cows behind.
[05:22] <Nutubuntu> Hey ... you're just the guy who talks to bots ... I'm the guy who can't read the instructions and formats /home ... :/
[05:23] <idontknowanythin> HAHAHAHA
[05:25] <idontknowanythin> hey i feel like an idiot
[05:25] <idontknowanythin> im on the live CD lol
[05:25] <idontknowanythin> be back in a bit
[05:25] <NIghtFire> we all have to start somewhere
[05:34] <PickledOnion> how can i get amarok to play ram or rm files?
[05:38] <Tinason> is it possible to automatically mount a usb drive at a certain location whenever its inserted?
[05:43] <biovore> Tinason: If you know the volume ID.. it get mouted to /media/<volume_id>
[05:44] <biovore> else you could write a udev rule for it..
[05:44] <Tinason> i guess i could just create a symlink in my home folder to /mount/usb_stick ?
[05:44] <Tinason> i mean, media/usb_stick
[05:47] <biovore> well you can have a link on your desktop.. link to device or something like that..
[05:53] <sub[t]rnl> Tinason➜ are you see an icon on the desktop when its plugged in or mounted?
[05:54] <Tinason> yes, but i wanted to access the usb stick as a subdirectory in ~
[05:54] <solidnail> linux vs mac who wins?
[05:54] <sub[t]rnl> Tinason➜ ah, gotcha
[05:55] <sub[t]rnl> Tinason➜ could always change the mount point to your home dir
[05:56] <Tinason> the option i found wont let me mount it anywhere except in /media
[05:56] <Tinason> ...im sure theres another way to do it though
[05:57] <Daisuke_Ido> solidnail: please don't try to start a flame war in here, there's absolutely no point
[05:57] <solidnail> Daisuke_Ido mm how do you mean?
[05:58] <Daisuke_Ido> i mean exactly what i said, and leave it at that
[05:58] <the-erm> What is the best file system to backup to?  I'm backup up to an ext3 fs right now, but it takes a long time to remove old backups.  Would ext2 work better for that?
[05:59] <sub[t]rnl> Daisuke_Ido➜ I'd have figured you would be used to ignoring those types of questions by now. :>
[05:59] <Daisuke_Ido> what can i say, i'm easily baited :D
[06:00] <Tinason> the-erm, am i the only aussie in here?
[06:00] <Tinason> sorry, i didnt mean to address that to you, mate
[06:00] <the-erm> Tinason: I don't know.
[06:01] <Tinason> well, anyway (slightly off topic,) let it be known that if john howard ever gets knighted by the queen i will throw up
[06:16] <c1|freaky> can someone make an upside down question mark for me? (for copy&paste?)
[06:17] <hemanathan> can anyone tell me how to enable the firewall
[06:17] <maduser> get guarddog
[06:18] <hemanathan> can anyone tell me how to enable the firewall
[06:19] <xRaich[o]2x> hemanathan: Install guarddog
[06:20] <hemanathan> xraich[o]2x : how to install guard dog
[06:21] <xRaich[o]2x> sudo apt-get install guarddog. Or use Adept if you prefer GUI.
[06:25] <howard__> hi
[06:51] <dorkface> Hi all, I have a .tff file with a font that I really want to use.  I tried searching google, but is it possible to convert .tff to .pcf, so konsole can understand it?
[06:52] <epimeth> dorkface: dunno... sorry
[06:53] <dorkface> epimeth: no problem :)
[06:57] <hemanathan> when i install guarddog i get an error message unable t start guarddog firewall
[06:58] <hemanathan> anyone help me ya
[07:00] <hemanathan> when i install guarddog i get an error message unable t start guarddog firewall
[07:04] <biovore> guarddog is just a graphical program that does stuff with iptables.. guarddog probably dosn't have permission to access iptables..
[07:06] <biovore> (guarddog probably needs to run a root)
[07:33] <gundam_rx78nt1> where do I go to edit default color scheme in kde?
[07:33] <gundam_rx78nt1> I am talking about the .kcsrc files
[07:34] <hyper__ch> where are the quicklauncher bar entries stored?
[07:36] <emilsedgh> gundam_rx78nt1: manually?
[07:36] <gundam_rx78nt1> emilsedgh: yes, manually.
[07:36] <gundam_rx78nt1> I got a color scheme that I need to compare with a default one.
[07:37] <emilsedgh> gundam_rx78nt1: personal color schemes are in ~/.kde/share/apps/kdisplay
[07:37] <emilsedgh> and system ones are in /usr/share/apps/kdisplay
[07:41] <gundam_rx78nt1> emilsedgh: thanks.  I installed a color scheme and it broke the icons for open office.  Instead of buttons I get text for the places of the buttons.
[07:42] <gundam_rx78nt1> has something to do with color schemes if I read correctly on the web.
[08:03] <theTheme> Hey everyone, I'm trying to relink a torrent with ktorrent, but I can't find where it saves the .torrent file by default, does anyone know where it is?
[08:04] <hyper__ch> theTheme: you could search your system - but very likely it's somewhere in ~/.kde/...
[08:04] <ForgeAus> hmm time to write out a fesity.iso!
[08:06] <hyper__ch> huhu Jucato
[08:12] <Daisuke_Ido> ~/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent/*
[08:12] <theTheme> I found them, but none of them are labeled...frustrating, they are in a folder called "tor15" for example and inside that folder there are number of files, but none that can differentiate them
[08:12] <Daisuke_Ido> yep
[08:12] <Daisuke_Ido> it's a pain
[08:12] <hyper__ch> that's one reason I don't use ktorrent any longer
[08:13] <Daisuke_Ido> hyper__ch: i'm always open for torrent client suggestions, what do you use?
[08:13] <hyper__ch> Daisuke_Ido: rtorrent.... ncurses based
[08:13] <hyper__ch> Daisuke_Ido: The TPB crew also uses it ;)
[08:14] <hyper__ch> Daisuke_Ido: only drawback - it does not have an ipfilter like ktorrent... you have to use iptables for that
[08:14] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm a little more inclined toward a more graphical client, just because i'm spoiled like that
[08:14] <hyper__ch> Daisuke_Ido: rtorrent is graphical ;)
[08:15] <Daisuke_Ido> i said *more* graphical :)
[08:15] <Daisuke_Ido> now, if i were setting up a box *just* for torrenting, i would go with something like that
[08:15] <hyper__ch> Daisuke_Ido: it's got even an ncurses interface by default and a few wuis
[08:16] <hyper__ch> best thing is, it's completely controlable from any ssh connection ;)
[08:16] <hyper__ch> (if you don't use a wui)
[08:16] <Daisuke_Ido> and that's why i would use it for a seed box
[08:16] <hyper__ch> Daisuke_Ido: ;)
[08:16] <hyper__ch> and it doesn't hog the memory as badly as ktorrent
[08:17] <maduser> ktorrent kicks ass
[08:17] <hyper__ch> not rtorrent's ;)
[08:18] <hyper__ch> Daisuke_Ido: you're strictly looking for a kde app?
[08:19] <Daisuke_Ido> actually, i don't even use kde anymore :D
[08:19] <Daisuke_Ido> but deluge doesn't like me, and azureus just isn't going to ever touch my pc
[08:19] <hyper__ch> Daisuke_Ido: deluge has become fairly popular and transmission will be hardy's default torrent client on ubuntu
[08:20] <hyper__ch> Daisuke_Ido: It's been a long time since I looked at deluge and never had a glance at transmission at all
[08:21] <hyper__ch> Daisuke_Ido: and there's of course the option of running utorrent through wine ;)
[08:31] <paris> kk';
[08:34]  * hyper__ch needs to adjust his uuforums title to hardy :)
[08:42] <cicero> hello room
[08:43] <hyper__ch> although I am not "room" I say hello back to cicero ^^
[08:43] <cicero> hello hyper.
[08:44] <cicero> this is my third day using kubuntu.
[08:46] <hyper__ch> cicero: when addressing someone, make use of TAB completion ;) meaning type the firstr 2-3 chars of that person's name and then press the tabulator key for auto-completion ;)
[08:47] <cicero> hyper__ch: ok
[08:47] <cicero> hyper__ch:  keen
[08:47] <hyper__ch> cicero: that prevents typing errors and makes you type less ;)
[08:48] <hyper__ch> cicero: three days using linux or three days using kubuntu?
[08:49] <cicero> hyper__ch:  tthnx. 3 days using linux/kubuntu. i had SuSE 8 a while back that i tinkered with but was running win2k.
[08:49] <hyper__ch> cicero: and not given up yet? ^^
[08:50] <sayucyof> hello
[08:50] <cicero> hyper__ch: i dont really like xp and my system cant handle vista, so i looked at some flavors of linux to acutally run my computer on, and liked ubuntu, and like kde a bit better than gnome.
[08:50] <hyper__ch> hello sayucyof
[08:51] <hyper__ch> cicero: try Xfce ^^
[08:51] <cicero> hyper__ch:  xfce?
[08:51] <hyper__ch> cicero: just a lot of people testing out linux want an OS that behaves like windows, looks like windows, runs all the windows apps - with more security --> linux is the wrong choice then
[08:51] <sayucyof> :)
[08:52] <hyper__ch> cicero: another desktop environment...it's minimalistic compared to kde/gnome
[08:52] <hyper__ch> cicero: "xubuntu"
[08:53] <cicero> hyper__ch:  i cant stand the windows philosphy of assuming that i want it a certain way and then forcing me to have to turn everything off. i would rather have a system i can figure out, and then turn on the features that i like best.
[08:53] <hyper__ch> cicero: ;)
[08:55] <cicero> hyper__ch:  i know enough to be dangerous, but not enough to know what i like yet. :)  but i like the kubuntu desktop a bit better than the ubuntu.
[08:55] <hyper__ch> cicero: each DE can be installed at the same time... another beauty of linux... in windows you're just set with one....
[08:57] <hyper__ch> cicero: you got any issue?
[08:57] <cicero> hyper__ch:  ic. sometimes when i try to start the adept manager it says that there is a conflict with one already running even though i just started the comp.
[08:58] <hyper__ch> cicero: didn't you shut it down properly the last time?
[08:59] <cicero> hyper__ch:  i use the logout and shut down buttons.
[08:59] <hyper__ch> cicero: and you are running which version of kubuntu?
[09:00] <cicero> hyper__ch:  7.10
[09:00] <hyper__ch> cicero: with kde4 or kde 3.5?
[09:00] <cicero> hyper__ch:  3.5..... ah... when i first installed kubuntu the system locked up and i had to shut it down hard.
[09:01] <hyper__ch> cicero: when it says so the next time, open a terminal and run:   ps aux | grep adept
[09:01] <hyper__ch> ththat should tell all the instances of it running
[09:02] <cicero> hyper__ch:  k
[09:02] <hyper__ch> cicero: also run:  lsof | grep adept
[09:03] <cicero> hyper__ch:  l as in lima?
[09:03] <hyper__ch> today uuforums will hit the 500k member mark :)
[09:03] <hyper__ch> cicero: ???
[09:03] <hyper__ch> Members: 499,611
[09:03] <cicero> hyper__ch:  lsof l as in lima.
[09:04] <hyper__ch> cicero: you mean a capital i or a small L? --> it's a small L
[09:04] <cicero> hyper__ch:  yeah. thanx. small L
[09:04] <hyper__ch> (list open files)
[09:06] <hyper__ch> lsof | grep adept --> list open files and filter the output so that each outputted line contains the string "adept"
[09:08] <iDivine> Umm, Yes, I recently had KDE4 and KDE, I was wondering, How do I take it off my system?.. I'm on Ubuntu now.
[09:09] <hyper__ch> iDivine: uninstall the according kde packages
[09:09] <cicero> hyper__ch:  um... i dont understand any of it. lol. exept the permission denied. lol
[09:09] <hyper__ch> cicero: ??? paste the command and output
[09:09] <iDivine> hyper__ch, How would I do that? I'm pretty new to Linux
[09:09] <hyper__ch> !pastebin | cicero
[09:09] <ubotu> cicero: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:09] <hyper__ch> iDivine: depending on how you insstalled kde
[09:10] <iDivine> Through Synaptic
[09:10] <hyper__ch> iDivine: simplest think is to open synaptic, search for "KDE" and mark the packages for removal
[09:10] <bidossessi> hi folks
[09:11] <hyper__ch> iDivine: however ayisu has compiled a list of kde packages in gutsy....
[09:11] <bidossessi> i'm looking for an app that could take pictures or videos from my webcam. i know of cheese for GNOME, but i need something for KDE. any ideas?
[09:11] <hyper__ch> iDivine: http://www.psychocats.net --> install pure gnome
[09:11] <iDivine> hyper__ch, Pure Gnome?
[09:11] <hyper__ch> iDivine: yes... it will list all the kde packages there
[09:11] <tommi_> The #kubuntu-kde4 channel is dead... Anyone here with experience of KDE 4? I'm experiencing a problem with the sound...
[09:12] <hyper__ch> kde4 ist still beta IMHO
[09:12] <hyper__ch> bidossessi: kopete has webcam capabilites... maybe there's also an option for recording there
[09:12] <hyper__ch> bidossessi: search adept
[09:15] <bidossessi> hyper__ch, it's strange to open a chat application to take pics and videos off a webcam. is adept an application?
[09:16] <hyper__ch> bidossessi: as long as you get done what you need who cares what an application was designed for?
[09:16] <hyper__ch> bidossessi: adept is the kde equivalent of synaptic
[09:17] <bidossessi> hyper__ch, common sense cares. something like cheese for gnome is designed especially with that idea in mind. i use gnome myself so iwouldn't know. thx anyway
[09:18] <hyper__ch> bidossessi: why wouldn't you know because of using gnome?
[09:18] <bidossessi> never heard of adpet, that's what i meant
[09:19] <bidossessi> rather new ubuntu user as well. my standard OS is opensuse
[09:20] <cicero> hyper__ch:  cicero    5583  0.5  3.2  33628 15656 ?        S    00:34   0:10 adept_notifier cicero    5864  0.6  2.9  27132 14368 ?        S    01:05   0:00 kdesu -u root -     c adept_manager root      5867  3.1  6.5  48764 31764 ?        S    01:05   0:02 adept_managercicero    5887  0.0  0.0   1756   480 ?        S    01:06   0:00 /bin/sh -c kons     ole --noclose -e /bin/sh -c "ps  aux | grep adept" cicero    5888 51.0  3.5  33552
[09:20] <cicero> 17296 ?        R    01:06   0:00 konsole --noclo     se -e /bin/sh -c ps  aux | grep adeptcicero    5889  0.0  0.0   1756   480 pts/2    Rs+  01:06   0:00 /bin/sh -c ps       aux | grep adept
[09:20] <cicero> hyper__ch:  sorry for the long post
[09:20] <hyper__ch> !pastebin | cicero
[09:20] <ubotu> cicero: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:20] <cicero> hyper__ch:  that was terh ps aux command
[09:25] <cicero> hyper__ch:  okay. page loaded. sorry about that.
[09:29] <cicero> hyper__ch: did i do that right?
[09:29] <neville> where abouts are the graphic files for icons stored?
[09:29] <neville> As in, what path leads to the folder that houses them?
[09:29] <hyper__ch> cicero: I still have no url of the output
[09:30] <cicero> hyper__ch: url of the output?
[09:30] <cicero> hyper__ch: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55456/
[09:31] <cicero> hyper__ch: i am slow sometimes. thanx for being patient.
[09:32] <hyper__ch> cicero: you do have adept running
[09:32] <hyper__ch> so now wonder you get this output
[09:33] <cicero> hyper__ch:  it doesnt show on the desktop but when i try to start it, it says that it is running
[09:33] <hyper__ch> cicero: sudo killall adept
[09:33] <sub[t]rnl> cicero➜ sudo killall adept_manager
[09:34] <sub[t]rnl> !aptfix | cicero
[09:34] <ubotu> cicero: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[09:34] <sub[t]rnl> neville➜ normally in /usr/share
[09:35] <sub[t]rnl> neville➜ if your looking for something specific, try finding it with 	locate whatever	 or use find. example, 	find / -name '*.png' 2>&-
[09:36] <neville> Ah, thanks alot for that
[09:37] <ctx144k> hello all, i wanna change my shell-colors in name@domain:  -  for that i typed in console the follow code: PS1='\[\033[01;32m\]\u@\h\[\033[00m\]:\[\033[01;34m\]\w\[\033[00m\]> '
[09:37] <ctx144k> its runing well
[09:38] <ctx144k> but, if i paste that in ~/.bashrc it doesnt work in new shells
[09:38] <ctx144k> but other commands like  alias la=`ls -la` work well...
[09:38] <ctx144k> so my question why PS1=foobar doesnt work
[09:39] <sub[t]rnl> ctx144k➜ start a new shell, and do 	export PS1	 to see if its what you want
[09:40] <cicero> hyper__ch:  sorry. my mouse keeps going crazy like its possessed.
[09:40] <sub[t]rnl> export $PS1
[09:40] <ctx144k> ok ill try
[09:40] <ctx144k> it doesent work too
[09:40] <simion314> i can't conect to ubuntu when i ping www.ubuntu .com the ip appears  there (91.189.94.158) and after 1-2 minutes i get 2 responses from arctowski.canonical.com (91.189.94.158)
[09:40] <ctx144k> as root it works well
[09:41] <sub[t]rnl> ctx144k➜ whos .bashrc are you editing, roots or users?
[09:41] <ctx144k> first root - there i havent any problems... now iam edit the .bashrc from the user - an there it doesnt work
[09:42] <ctx144k> other commands work in users .basrc...  so i think perhaps something other PS1 willbe load after bashrc - but i havent any idea
[09:44] <sub[t]rnl> ctx144k➜ are you using kubuntu?
[09:44] <ctx144k> yes
[09:44] <ctx144k> 7.10
[09:44] <ctx144k> ne new install
[09:44] <sub[t]rnl> ctx144k➜ show me export $PS1
[09:44] <ctx144k> a new install
[09:44] <ctx144k> but from alternate-cd
[09:44] <dhq> is there anyway to remove a builtin hdd password
[09:45] <ctx144k> ${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w\$}
[09:46] <sub[t]rnl> ctx144k➜ open the users .bashrc, and comment out that section
[09:47] <ctx144k> i already did... all lines with PS1
[09:48] <ctx144k> moment ill paste my .bashrc
[09:48] <sub[t]rnl> you shouldn't comment all lines that have it, you'll want your defined PS1 un-commented
[09:49] <ctx144k> http://rafb.net/p/b3a2Mt31.html
[09:49] <ctx144k> see my .bashrc
[09:49] <ctx144k> i know :)
[09:49] <sub[t]rnl> ctx144k➜ uncomment line 36
[09:50] <sub[t]rnl> sorry, line 94
[09:50] <sub[t]rnl> and then comment out line 96
[09:51] <sub[t]rnl> no need to export a bash variable, you export variables that are created by you.
[09:51] <cicero> hyper__ch:  reHello. thanx. adept is working now.
[09:51] <ctx144k> ???
[09:52] <ctx144k> it doesnt work as export and as nonexport
[09:52] <simion314> i can't conect to ubuntu when i ping www.ubuntu .com the ip appears  there (91.189.94.158) and after 1-2 minutes i get 2 responses from arctowski.canonical.com (91.189.94.158), after 10 minutes other 2 responses, i have no ideea, (except to try to reinstall)
[09:52] <sub[t]rnl> ctx144k➜ at the bottom of your file.. where you see # PS1='\[\033[01;31m\]\u@\h\[\033[00m\]:\[\033[01;34m\]\w\[\033[00m\]> '  <--- remove the #
[09:53] <ctx144k> that is the root-part
[09:53] <ctx144k> i need the users-part 2 lines under it
[09:53] <sub[t]rnl> then remove the export
[09:53] <ctx144k> i did
[09:54] <ctx144k> it doesent workl as user !
[09:54] <ctx144k> as root it works perfekt
[09:54] <sub[t]rnl> show me 	echo PS1
[09:54] <sub[t]rnl> $PS1
[09:54] <ctx144k> ${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w\$}
[09:54] <sub[t]rnl> did you invoke a new shell?
[09:55] <ctx144k> i startet a new "konsole"
[09:55] <sub[t]rnl> show me your .bashrc now
[09:55] <ctx144k> or a new login on command-line
[09:56] <sub[t]rnl> no, a new non interactive shell (without login) will invoke ~/.bashrc
[09:56] <sub[t]rnl> login will call /etc/profile
[09:56] <ctx144k> http://rafb.net/p/TrpqEP38.html
[09:57] <ctx144k> source ~/.bashrc
[09:57] <ctx144k> but it doesent work, the other commands like "la" are working
[09:58] <sub[t]rnl> ctx144k➜ change it to this
[09:58] <aleksanteri> export PS1=...
[09:59] <aleksanteri> not PS1=...
[09:59] <sub[t]rnl> no
[09:59] <ctx144k> i did - it doent work !
[09:59] <sub[t]rnl> wait 1
[09:59] <sub[t]rnl> ctx144k➜ PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\[\033[01;32m\]\u@\h\[\033[00m\]:\[\033[01;34m\]\w\[\033[00m\]> '
[10:00] <sub[t]rnl> save, then invoke a new shell
[10:00] <cicero> hyper__ch:  thanx again, hyper, and everyone else who helped. have a good day everybody. bbl.
[10:01] <ctx144k> it doesnt work
[10:01] <ctx144k> echo $PS1  <-  showsa the same as before
[10:05] <sub[t]rnl> show me the output from ls -l .bashrc
[10:06] <ctx144k> ok i founded the problem...
[10:06] <ctx144k> but i dont bot why
[10:06] <sub[t]rnl> i would guess spelling
[10:07] <sub[t]rnl> :>
[10:07] <ctx144k> the loading of .bashrc stops after line 88-91:  http://rafb.net/p/TrpqEP38.html
[10:08] <sub[t]rnl> ah
[10:08] <sub[t]rnl> i see it
[10:08] <ctx144k> when i uncomment that lines PS1 willbe set
[10:08] <ctx144k> but... why?!?
[10:08] <sub[t]rnl> change it to this at the bottom
[10:08] <sub[t]rnl> if [ -f /etc/bash_completion ]; then
[10:09] <sub[t]rnl> . /etc/bash_completion
[10:09] <ctx144k> ah... i understand-- line-endings ^^
[10:10] <sub[t]rnl> well, if you said its not getting loaded below those lines, fix them, or move the PS1 variables before it
[10:10] <ctx144k> i pasted that from an under windows created txt-file in ~/.bashrc
[10:10] <sub[t]rnl> is English your native language?
[10:12] <ctx144k> de_DE
[10:12] <ctx144k> utf is disabled
[10:13] <ctx144k> hmmm bash_completion willbe not loaded correct
[10:14] <sub[t]rnl> well, for some reason in your .bashrc, your running the if -f bash_completion twice
[10:14] <ctx144k> i writed in bash_completion in last line follow:  echo "1233"
[10:15] <ctx144k> as root it works well, i get 1233 on screen after starting a new shell
[10:15] <ctx144k> as user after calling source /etc/bash_completion not
[10:16] <sub[t]rnl> remove the calling source, it already does that a few lines before
[10:17] <ctx144k> ah ok
[10:17] <ctx144k> i see
[10:17] <momal> Has anyone had any sound problems with alsa since updates of few days back? seem to be getting "snd_pcm_open() failed:-19:No such device" using 7.10 only just recently like since today.
[10:18] <ctx144k> sub[t]rnl, thanks !!
[10:18] <sub[t]rnl> ctx144k➜ anytime
[10:19] <ctx144k> ubuntu/kubuntu are desktop-distros... wouldbe great when the developer would set such console-settings as defaut
[10:20] <ctx144k> the same with ~.vimrc
[10:20] <gundam_rx78nt1> momal: I had so many problems with it until I came up and re-installed Fiesty.
[10:20] <ctx144k> set ruler / set bs=2 / set paste / syntax enable
[10:21] <momal> gundam_rx78nt1: heh... I refuse to do that Its only a fresh install this month. Something within the last 2 days of updates has messed alsa/xine up really bad >_<
[10:22] <gundam_rx78nt1> yep. I lost the alsa option for the xine engine for kaffeine and amarok.
[10:23] <sub[t]rnl> try re-installing the xine package
[10:24] <momal> yeah I have tried reinstalling everything to do with xine/alsa
[10:24] <momal> and still same problem
[10:25] <sub[t]rnl> have you posted a bug?
[10:26] <momal> no... its a case of i need it fixed nowl ol
[10:26] <sub[t]rnl> :>
[10:32] <ghery63> prova
[10:34] <jpatrick> !it | ghery63
[10:34] <ubotu> ghery63: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:46] <dZen|n|> Hello, I have a problem, I have compiz installed on kubuntu gytsy. My window decoration crashes all the time 2-3 timer pr day. My solution is to retstart kdm.
[10:48] <neville> Is it the default window manager?
[10:49] <dZen|n|> neville: what do you mean with that ?
[10:50] <neville> Well, when you start your computer, does it start Compiz by default?
[10:50] <dZen|n|> yeah
[10:50] <neville> Would changing it back to the default, 2D window manager suit you fine?
[10:51] <neville> Compiz is still pretty buggy, and is only really useful for making friends jealous :P
[10:51] <dZen|n|> ok How do I disable it, so I can start it manually ?
[10:51] <simion314> hi, i still can't connect to ubuntu.com, restart my internet connection, boot in windows,  the ip appears when i ping but the answer is not comming, i can't read forums  to try to find such problems, i can see other web pages, this is strange
[10:52] <neville> Press Alt+F2, and a little command box should pop up
[10:52] <neville> Type into that kwin replace &
[10:52] <neville> Then logout and back in, and it should be back to normal
[10:52] <dZen|n|> oki thx.
[10:53] <dZen|n|> by the way I don't have any friends, im impressing my self
[10:53] <dZen|n|> :D
[10:53] <neville> Hahaha, same here :P
[10:54] <teo_> where can i find the archives i have downloaded with apt-get ??
[10:54] <dZen|n|> well I am just impressed that kubuntu with compiz don't use so much ram as crappy vista
[10:54] <dZen|n|> I am used to use suse, so I am pretty new to ubuntu/kubuntu
[10:55] <emilsedgh> teo_: /var/cache/apt/archives
[10:55] <neville> I've given Suse a go before, and maybe I'm just biased, but Kubuntu is actually alot easier to use in my opinion
[10:56] <emilsedgh> comparing vista to kubuntu isnt good...its like comparing a doll house with a huge building ;)
[10:57] <neville> Look, Vista isn't that bad
[10:57] <simion314> hi, i still can't connect to ubuntu.com, restart my internet connection, boot in windows,  the ip appears when i ping but the answer is not comming, i can't read forums  to try to find such problems, i can see other web pages, this is strange and stupid, why ubuntu? i can't use apt because it can't get to ubuntu
[10:57] <neville> I mean
[10:57] <dZen|n|> well kubuntu us great, the best linux dist. My friedns at work use gentoo, thet need to compile everything self. A system shouldnt bee so hard to use. We live in a fancy world :d
[10:57] <emilsedgh> s/to/with :P
[10:57] <neville> It's great for "borrowing" the D3D 10 .dll files for Wine for patch 'n play gaming :P
[10:57] <dZen|n|> simion314: ubuntu.com wokrd fine with me, do you have adsl ?
 yes
[10:58] <neville> Yeah, Kubuntu is the best :D
[10:58] <theunixgeek> How can I get desktop icons to display in Kubuntu, like Computer, Documents, etc?
[10:59] <dZen|n|> theunixgeek: right click add to desktop :D
[10:59] <Lynoure> theunixgeek: you just add them on your desktop, and they should show just fine. What happens in your case?
[10:59] <emilsedgh> neville: i was just kidding, i never tried vista :P
[10:59] <neville> Oh, really?
[10:59] <neville> Well, it left a bad taste in my mouth
[10:59] <dZen|n|> simion314: thoes your adsl link blinks ?
[11:00] <neville> Aero is blegh
[11:00] <dZen|n|> I have to use vista at my work, my boss would not let me use linux :(
[11:00] <theunixgeek> Lynoure: Like, links?
[11:00] <neville> He's brave, allowing the use of Vista in productive environment this early :P
[11:01] <simion314> dZen|n|: yes, i can connect to google or wikipedia and when i try to ping it finds this ip addres [91.189.94.158]
[11:01] <dZen|n|> I have used it since day one...
[11:02] <neville> :/
[11:02] <dZen|n|> simion314: what do you get when you try to ping google.com ?
[11:03] <simion314> [91.189.94.158]: it is working, it gets imediat response
[11:03]  * aleksanteri has vista installed, unfortunately. he thinks it's the crappiest OS ever to be
[11:03] <simion314> [91.189.94.158] i am thinking to try a proxy
[11:03] <dZen|n|> simion314: thoes it acctually ping ?
[11:04] <simion314> yes
[11:04] <dZen|n|> simion314: you should get something like this:
[11:04] <dZen|n|> PING google.dk (72.14.221.104) 56(84) bytes of data.
[11:04] <dZen|n|> 64 bytes from fg-in-f104.google.com (72.14.221.104): icmp_seq=1 ttl=243 time=29.7 ms
[11:04] <dZen|n|> 64 bytes from fg-in-f104.google.com (72.14.221.104): icmp_seq=2 ttl=243 time=31.5 ms
[11:04] <dZen|n|> 64 bytes from fg-in-f104.google.com (72.14.221.104): icmp_seq=3 ttl=243 time=29.7 ms
[11:04] <stefano_> Is There Someone who speack in Italian?
[11:04] <jpatrick> !it | stefano_
[11:04] <ubotu> stefano_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:05] <simion314> yes i get a good response from ping
[11:05] <dZen|n|> simion314: thats weard try to flush your dns :D
[11:06] <simion314> how?
 now it works, i have no ideea wjat happened thx
[11:07] <stefano_> How can i change the tar.gz file in .deb?
 it would fell like the ubuntu denied my connection
[11:07] <dZen|n|>  /etc/init.d/nscd restart
[11:07] <Kheops> heya
[11:07] <Kheops> :)
[11:08] <dZen|n|> simion314: I tould you that it was weard :d
[11:08] <dZen|n|> Kheops: hello!
[11:08] <neville> stefano_ Don't you just extract the files inside the tar.gz file, then run whatever executable was inside it from the console?
[11:08] <Kheops> hellow
[11:08] <Kheops> :)
[11:08] <Kheops> what is with this little server
[11:08] <Kheops> :)
[11:08] <dZen|n|> nothing
[11:09] <Kheops> hmmm  California US
[11:09] <Kheops> nice
[11:09] <Kheops> ;)
[11:09] <Kheops> hmmmm i can login here ?
[11:09] <Kheops> :)
[11:09] <dZen|n|> are you on crack ?
[11:09] <jpatrick> Kheops: you already are
[11:10] <Kheops> jpatrick: i mean login
[11:10] <Kheops> not only join
[11:10] <Kheops> :)
[11:10] <Kheops> i mean a server robot
[11:10] <Kheops> X Q
[11:10] <Kheops> etc
[11:11] <jpatrick> Kheops: /msg NickServ help register
[11:11] <jpatrick> !enter | Kheops
[11:11] <ubotu> Kheops: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:11] <Kheops> ChanServ
[11:11] <Kheops> :)
[11:11] <Kheops> nice
[11:11] <stefano_> yes....but it's very complicated! Is There a WebSite which could teach me how can i do it?
[11:11] <Kheops> aha
[11:11] <Kheops> :)
[11:11] <Kheops> nice channel
[11:11] <Kheops> 330 nicks
[11:11] <Kheops> ;)
[11:12] <chanika> so I'm in the middle of a dist-upgrade from dapper to gutsy
[11:12] <jpatrick> chanika: wow, good luck
[11:12] <chanika> it couldn't resolve the conflicts at first, but I gave it a boost and then it removed konq and mail and some other stuff
[11:12] <Kheops> hmmm Kubuntu RUlez !
[11:12] <Kheops> :)
[11:13] <hola> saome one uses virtualbox
[11:13] <chanika> any bets on how badly things will break when it's done?;)
[11:13] <chanika> also... anyone know even the first thing about connecting to an l2p vpn?
[11:14] <Kheops> hmm somebody knows a good fire wall on Kubuntu ?
[11:14] <Lynoure> chanika: how you are upgrading? release by release?
[11:14] <jpatrick> !firewall | Kheops
[11:14] <ubotu> Kheops: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[11:14] <Kheops> 10x
[11:14] <Kheops> ;)
[11:15] <chanika> lynoure: just dist-upgrade, all at once
[11:15] <Kheops> i read right now
[11:15] <Lynoure> chanika: uh...
[11:15] <Kheops> very good documentation
[11:15] <Lynoure> chanika: and you cannot wait till hardy (8.04) where that would be actually supported?
[11:15] <Kheops> good job boys i use Kubuntu from the Begining
[11:18] <Lynoure> chanika: Then my guess is quite many things will break, or at least you'll have to tweak a lot of config files. I'd go for an install and not upgrade if I really wanted to go from dapper to gutsy (and had separate home... or just good backups)
[11:18] <Kheops> patrik
[11:18] <Kheops> is still free distrubution ?
[11:19] <jpatrick> Kheops: yes
[11:19] <Kheops> good because when he appeared i comand 20 cds :)
[11:19] <Kheops> just for test and it is powerfull
[11:27] <Kheops> where i can find a tutorial about iptables ?
[11:28] <Kheops> with all explication
[11:28] <jpatrick> Kheops: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[11:28] <Kheops> nop
[11:28] <Kheops> i read
[11:28] <Kheops> is how to set up
[11:28] <Kheops> not what and why should i do
[11:28] <Kheops> i to read a tutorial who explain all
[11:29] <Kheops> what means ... etc
[11:33] <support> malam semua
[11:33] <jpatrick> !en | support
[11:33] <ubotu> support: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[11:35] <sui> hi
[11:44] <Wallgod> hi all i just downloaded firefox and out its content in opt/firefox... but i m unable to start firefox
[11:44] <Wallgod> how do i start firefox?
[11:46] <Kheops> :)))))
[11:46] <Kheops> rebot
[11:46] <Kheops> and then look at K Menu -> Internet
[11:46] <Wallgod> Kheops: do i reboot to start firefox?
[11:46] <Kheops> and i hope is there
[11:46] <Kheops> yep
[11:46] <Kheops> reboot and he will apear
[11:46] <Wallgod> Kheops: ok i ll try that... thanks
[11:47] <Kheops> np
[11:55] <Wallgod> can anybody please tell me how i can start firefox... i used the tar command to put it in /opt/firefox/
[11:56] <Wallgod> there has to be somebody here who knows how to this...
[12:01] <velh0> Wallgod: use an easy GUI installer interface
[12:01] <velh0> like synaptic or adept
[12:01] <velh0> and install firefox
[12:01] <velh0> then reboot
[12:02] <velh0> and look at K Menu>Internet
[12:06] <Kheops> heya
[12:06] <Repsa_Jih> hey
[12:06] <Kheops> does anyone knows a whois command ?
[12:06] <Kheops> for ips
[12:07] <Kheops> bash command
[12:07] <bug_> hi all
[12:07] <Kheops> hi
[12:07] <bug_> need a bit help if i can
[12:08] <nathan__> hi
[12:08] <bug_> i'm trying to get ccsm to work with gutsy
[12:08] <Kheops> hmmm does anybody knows a whois bash command for Kubuntu ?
[12:08] <bug_> any help?
[12:10] <bug_> anyone?
[12:11] <Repsa_Jih> I'm sorry
[12:11] <ForgeAus> hey all :)
[12:11] <ForgeAus> um how do I mount a file?
[12:11] <ForgeAus> it complains its not in fstab or mtab
[12:11] <ForgeAus> mount: can't find /mnt/base in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[12:12] <ForgeAus> base is a file and /mnt/base is where I was trying to put it
[12:21] <kreib> SPDIF sound, can it be connected to the CD input on an amplifier?
[12:26] <ahmos> Hi when i try to capture a video by kiro i get this(warning: raw1394 kernel module not loaded or failureto read/write /dev/raw1394!)
[12:26] <ahmos> so any ideas?
[12:29] <ahmos> hello!!
[12:29] <ForgeAus> how come when I try to load konqueror as root it complains No protocol specified?
[12:30] <Kheops> :)))))))))))))))
[12:30] <ForgeAus> root@ubuntu:/mnt/sda1/SFU/usr/share/locale# konqueror
[12:30] <ForgeAus> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[12:30] <ForgeAus> Xlib: No protocol specified
[12:30] <Kheops> how did u try to runn konqueror as root ?
[12:30] <ForgeAus> well you can sudo
[12:31] <ForgeAus> but I was already in sudo -i
[12:31] <llutz> ForgeAus: you have to export Xauthority before or, of course, use "kdesu konqueror"
[12:31] <Kheops> hmm
[12:31] <ForgeAus> ahh IC
[12:31] <Kheops> try with K Menu
[12:31] <ForgeAus> same error
[12:31] <ForgeAus> how with kmenu?
[12:31] <ahmos> I think alt+f2 then type kdesu konqueror
[12:32] <ForgeAus> konqeror wasn't even in the kmenu :( in feist from LIveCD
[12:32] <Kheops> K Menu -> Run Command ForgeAus
[12:32] <Kheops> and type what llutz write
[12:32] <Kheops> kdesu konqueror
[12:32] <Kheops> and it will work
[12:32] <ForgeAus> yes thanx :)
[12:32] <Kheops> it's work ?
[12:33] <ForgeAus> ahh much better :)
[12:33] <Kheops> np
[12:33] <Kheops> ;)
[12:33] <ForgeAus> no need to use commandline to remove files
[12:33] <Kheops> :)_
[12:33] <Kheops> nop
[12:33] <Kheops> manualy
[12:33] <Kheops> :D)
[12:33] <Kheops> shift+del
[12:33] <ForgeAus> I feel much better :)
[12:33] <Kheops> ahahha
[12:33] <ForgeAus> did I mention they were on an NTFS partition? lol
[12:33] <Kheops> if u read KDE manual u will find a lot of interesting things
[12:33] <Kheops> :)
[12:33] <ForgeAus> its already fusemounted tho
[12:34] <ahmos> Hi when i try to capture a video by kiro i get this(warning: raw1394 kernel module not loaded or failureto read/write /dev/raw1394!)
[12:35] <ahmos> there is a command I can't remmeber it like sudo chmod 666 ..... or something like that :D
[12:35] <ForgeAus> hmmm I cant delete :(
[12:35] <ForgeAus> even in here
[12:35] <Kheops> hmmm
[12:35] <Kheops> ForgeAus:
[12:35] <Kheops> what are u trying to do
[12:35] <Kheops> ?
[12:36] <ForgeAus> remove some Services for Unix files leftover from my "interix" install in XP
[12:36] <Kheops> hmm
[12:36] <ForgeAus> it wouldn't let me in XP so I thought I'd try linux
[12:36] <Kheops> give permision
[12:36] <ForgeAus> the rest of Interix is missing
[12:36] <ForgeAus> how to give permission?
[12:36] <Kheops> give permision to folder
[12:36] <Kheops> that u want to delete
[12:36] <Kheops> chmod
[12:36] <ForgeAus> ok
[12:36] <Kheops> chmod 777 folder?*
[12:37] <Kheops> chmod 777 folder that u are trying to delete/*
[12:38] <ForgeAus> chmod: changing permissions of `SFU': Operation not supported
[12:38] <mohd> as
[12:38] <Kheops> hmmm
[12:39] <Kheops> run kdesu for konqueror and delete them
[12:39] <Kheops> root have all permision
[12:40] <RoboCop> i need a server with root access. but i dont have much data transfer and connectivity speed requirments. can any one recomend a good lowest cost dedi.. and with root acces. vps dds ..?
[12:40] <ForgeAus> thats what I thought but it doesn't work either
[12:40] <ForgeAus> either that or konqi isn't running in root
[12:40] <llutz> Kheops: go and read a little about unix-permissions on non-unix-filesystems :)
[12:41] <Kheops> hmm non unix ? :))))
[12:41] <ForgeAus> its NTFS
[12:41] <ahmos> !chmod
[12:41] <ubotu> An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[12:41] <llutz> Kheops: Xp = btfs = non-unix
[12:41] <Kheops> i know
[12:41] <RoboCop> *nix
[12:41] <llutz> ntfs
[12:41] <mohd> malay
[12:41] <Kheops> i have an ntfs partition
[12:41] <Kheops> no problem
[12:41] <mohd> ok
[12:41] <ForgeAus> it should b no problem
[12:41] <ForgeAus> I dunno why interix locked them up like that
[12:41] <ForgeAus> they should be removable
[12:41] <ForgeAus> thats weird
[12:41] <mohd> what your name
[12:41] <llutz> Kheops: then you used the correct mount-options. if not, you cannot use chmod easiliy
[12:42] <mohd> h
[12:42] <Kheops> pfffff
[12:42] <rdw> when i boot kubuntu through EasyBCD (i installed vista ;-( ) my progress bar gets stuck
[12:42] <mohd> sorry
[12:42] <Kheops> he don't mount well
[12:42] <Kheops> the partition
[12:42] <Kheops> unmount and then remount
[12:43] <Kheops> llutz: do u know a bash command or something for ip whois details ?
[12:43] <mohd> i don t speking inglish
[12:43] <llutz> Kheops: "man whois"
[12:43] <Kheops> ky
[12:43] <Kheops> let me type :)
[12:43] <mohd> I DONT SPEAKING INGLISH
[12:44] <Kheops> No manual entry for whois
[12:44] <Kheops> :)
[12:44] <Kheops> try again
[12:44] <mohd> ok
[12:44] <llutz> Kheops: install whois first
[12:44] <Kheops> ky
[12:44] <mohd> playing fight
[12:44] <Kheops> give me the link
[12:44] <mohd> ()
[12:44] <Kheops> :)
[12:45] <Kheops> whois repository
[12:45] <Kheops> :)
[12:45] <mohd> kkk
[12:45] <llutz> !enter | Kheops
[12:45] <ubotu> Kheops: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:45] <mohd> lll;;;;;;;llll;;;
[12:45] <Kheops> lnik ?
[12:45] <Kheops> link
[12:46] <ForgeAus> hehe maybe I need to use killbox to remove the files
[12:46] <Kheops> llutz: give me the link
[12:46] <llutz> Kheops: use adept
[12:47] <Kheops> ky
[12:47] <Kheops> i use
[12:48] <geggam> just curious... do newbs still come into IRC and ask how to run .exes ?
[12:48] <RoboCop> i need a server with root access. but i dont have much data transfer and connectivity speed requirments. can any one recomend a good lowest cost dedi.. and with root acces. vps dds ..?
[12:48] <Repsa_Jih> How do you run .dll's on Linux? ;)
[12:49] <geggam> wine
[12:49] <Repsa_Jih> Meh, wasn't a serious question, actually :)
[12:49] <geggam> i know
[12:49] <geggam> :P
[12:49] <Kheops> llutz: do u know if Star Craft works well on Wine
[12:49] <Kheops> ?
[12:50] <geggam> i come in here once every so often because the questions people ask here are a good metric to tell the progress
[12:50] <llutz> Kheops: no, not interested in gaming nor in wine at all
[12:50] <Jucato> Kheops: please ask about that in #winehq
[12:51] <llutz> geggam: wat progress? what you see is, that most of the guys easily find IRC but are unable to use searchsites like google :(
[12:51] <geggam> that will never change llutz
[12:51] <geggam> it was a problem in 99 and continues
[12:51] <Kheops> ky Jucato
[12:51] <geggam> before 99 i cant tell u
[12:51] <Kheops> hellow
[12:51] <geggam> at least u dont have rpm hell
[12:52] <llutz> geggam: nope, inthose days more people tried to fix their problem themself. nowadays: "help me, now, perfectly!"
[12:52] <geggam> in those days the only nerds trying to do linux were nerds
[12:53] <geggam> now its "cool"
[12:53] <llutz> _that_ is the point
[12:53] <llutz> time to use solaris :)
[12:53] <geggam> im a freebsd whore
[12:53] <geggam> :D
[12:53] <Jucato> or gnu/hurd... but you guys might want to continue in #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[12:54] <Jucato> (and please watch the language. thanks)
[12:55] <mefisto__> can I create dvd's with devede, but use qdvdauthor to create the dvd menu?
[13:00] <ForgeAus> hmmm whats /etc/rc*?
[13:00] <ForgeAus> hehe gnu/hurd, interesting :)
[13:02] <rdw> when i boot kubuntu through EasyBCD (i installed vista ;-( ) my progress bar gets stuck
[13:03] <ForgeAus> hmmm easybcd? dunno enough about it, maybe you should try aeroboot! lol
[13:03] <rdw> it helped me to load my grub
[13:04] <rdw> from there it gets complicated :)
[13:04] <ForgeAus> (its ok lotsa googling to find that one I don't expect you to, besides its Japanese - but I think theres an english version, anyhow really nice looking boot manager :) gui one...
[13:04] <kiefer> hrmm, I downloaded a .rar archive, its 85mb and is meant to contain like 20 files, when I open it it says 0 files 0 bytes, any advice?
[13:04] <ForgeAus> of course I havn't installed it as yet
[13:04] <ForgeAus> and the theme is a windows vista one :(
[13:04] <ForgeAus> kiefer are you sure you downloaded it all?
[13:04] <ubuntu> hey gues
[13:04] <kiefer> absolutley positive
[13:05] <ubuntu> WOW
[13:05] <kiefer> watched it hit 100%, thats why im stumped :S
[13:05] <ForgeAus> hmmm and you have an unrar utility
[13:05] <kiefer> yeah
[13:05] <kiefer> used 'sudo apt-get install unrar-free'
[13:05] <ForgeAus> ok well sounds like either the archive was corrupt (or more than that unrar-free program could handle) or something I don't know about...
[13:05] <ubuntu> Guys ,,, Its Just Amazing OS, Fk Ms Win
[13:06] <kiefer> ForgeAus: haha thanks anyway
[13:06] <kiefer> ubuntu: i already knew that ^_^
[13:06] <ForgeAus> ubuntu ??? it???
[13:07] <ubuntu> Yes
[13:07] <Sbucat> :) hello
[13:07] <ubuntu> All Doing My Jobs From The Mornning  & Live CD... !!!!!!
[13:08] <ForgeAus> hehe using a LiveCD here too
[13:08] <geggam> too much coffee ?
[13:08] <Hesham> Testing...
[13:08] <geggam> u failed
[13:08] <hola> same one uses virtualbox
[13:08] <Hesham> :)
[13:09] <Hesham> Hey Guys, How To Mount NTFS Drives On Kubuntu??
[13:09] <Jucato> !ntfs
[13:09] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[13:10] <ForgeAus> hmm wish this liveCD had krusader or mc
[13:10] <Hesham> THNX
[13:15] <ForgeAus> hmmm so whats /etc/rc* about?
[13:15] <ForgeAus> it runs this stuff during startup right?
[13:21] <llutz> ForgeAus: it contain start-stop-scripts for different runlevels, used by sysvinit
[13:21] <aharoon> how i enable UPNP service in my system?
[13:23] <ForgeAus> oh ok
[13:23] <ForgeAus> sounds like something I shouldn't have got...
[13:23] <ForgeAus> I kinda undermined it by removing an init.d symlink
[13:24] <ForgeAus> do you think it will still be a problem?
[13:24] <ForgeAus> (I know it won't load the delinked program but thats what I wanted)
[13:24] <aharoon> how i enable universal plug & play service?
[13:25] <llutz> ForgeAus: sudo update-rc.d -f <progname> remove         should do it
[13:25] <ForgeAus> aharoon in systemsettings (or kcontrol)  afaik
[13:25] <ForgeAus> ahh ok
[13:25] <llutz> uPnP = security nightmare
[13:25] <ForgeAus> I'll put the symlink back then
[13:26] <Kheops> llutz:
[13:26] <Kheops> how is going ? :)
[13:26] <ForgeAus> (that doesn't remove the app tho does it? just disables its rc* entry?
[13:26] <llutz> ForgeAus: right
[13:26] <ForgeAus> thanx :)
[13:26] <aharoon> i enable this service when i used windows to speed torrent download
[13:26] <ForgeAus> um wait I gotta boot into it to do that, otherwise have to chroot and not going through that from here
[13:26] <ForgeAus> copying that t some info file for later memory
[13:27] <Hesham> Is There Big Differences Kubunto 6.06 LTS & Kubuntu 7 ?????????????
[13:28] <Jucato> Hesham: yes. about 1 and a half year of updated packages and new features. if you need something super stable and don't mind using older version of packages, use the LTS. If you want something more up to date, use 7.10
[13:28] <ForgeAus> thanx llutz :)
[13:29] <Kheops> Jucato: what is the command to see what version do u have ?
[13:29] <ForgeAus> uname
[13:29] <Jucato> ForgeAus: nope
[13:29] <llutz> lsb_release -a
[13:29] <ForgeAus> wait maybe not
[13:30] <Jucato> Kheops: the one llutz gave
[13:30] <Kheops> ky
[13:30] <Jucato> ForgeAus: that's specifically for kernel version
[13:30] <ForgeAus> ahh ok thanx Jucato, I'm still confused as you can tell
[13:30] <Jucato> :)
[13:30] <Kheops> :)
[13:30] <Jucato> one step at at time... little by little :)
[13:30] <Kheops> 6.06.1 yeah
[13:30] <Kheops> rulez
[13:30] <Kheops> :)
[13:30] <ForgeAus> (I was using uname for some other distro)
[13:31] <Jucato> hm... 6.06.2 was out already afaik...
[13:31] <Jucato> ForgeAus: well you can relate the kernel version to which version was available for a particular distro release.
[13:31] <ForgeAus> musta been something I was reading about AndLinux or MacOSX
[13:32] <Jucato> (and not everyone has lsb_release, so "cat /etc/release" is probably more accurate)
[13:32] <ForgeAus> I need a ToH kernel to run it on my PC if I make it a Hackintosh
[13:32] <ForgeAus> unfortunately its illegal to do so :(...
[13:32] <ForgeAus> the compatibility would be nice tho
[13:33] <ForgeAus> I considered seriously going to buy Leopard from the shop... its not as expensive as Windows and it gives Apple less grounds to prosecute me if anything happens
[13:33] <rebugger> ForgeAus: lol
[13:35] <ForgeAus> Jucato, interesting coz when I tried that I got:
[13:35] <ForgeAus> root@ubuntu:/# cat /etc/release
[13:35] <ForgeAus> cat: /etc/release: No such file or directory
[13:35] <Jucato> hm.. but lsb_release -a works?
[13:35] <ForgeAus> yeah
[13:35] <llutz> cat /etc/*release
[13:35] <ForgeAus> maybe its something about the livecd?
[13:35] <aharoon> i looked in system settings and i didnt find anything called upnp
[13:35] <Jucato> weird...
[13:36] <ForgeAus> ahh yeah the * fixed it
[13:36] <llutz> file name is /etc/lsbrelease
[13:36] <Jucato> ah ok...
[13:36] <ForgeAus> this liveCD is Feisty :)
[13:36] <Jucato> oh well, even that is non-standard it seems :P
[13:36] <ForgeAus> ok before I go I better fix fglxr (sp?)
[13:36] <llutz> Jucato: the Ubuntu-Way (TM)
[13:37] <ForgeAus> rofl
[13:37] <Jucato> aharoon: I don't think you set it up there. if you're using ktorrent, there's a UPnP plugin that you have to enable and then configure it there
[13:37] <aharoon> i installed the upnp plugin in ktoorent but i know it should be enapled by system first
[13:39] <aharoon> is it true?
[13:39] <JavaBeans> Hi Al
[13:39] <JavaBeans> All*
[13:40] <Jucato> aharoon: not sure... try enabling it there first. I don't think there's a global UPnP setting in KDE anyway
[13:40] <aharoon> where should i find it in system setting?
[13:40] <JavaBeans> Can anybody help me with my graphics card issue
[13:40] <ForgeAus> um is it normal for /lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/drivers/video/ to list aty instead of ati?
[13:41] <JavaBeans> I can't get above 1024*768
[13:41] <ForgeAus> I think I'll make a symlink just in case
[13:41] <JavaBeans> But it finds my GeForce 7800
[13:41] <aharoon> i enapled it allready but i feal torrent download is slow too much it doesnt pass 4 kb\s but the regular downlad reach 31 kb/s  and the same torrent in windows download in 25 kb/s
[13:42] <ForgeAus> um how do I make a simlink to a folder?
[13:42] <ForgeAus> in konqueror?
[13:43] <ForgeAus> commandline is ln right?
[13:44] <ForgeAus> can you just copy -> paste as link?
[13:44] <momal> snd_pcm_open() failed <-- can anyone help me for some reason suddenly I can't get any sound in kubuntu 7.10
[13:44] <aharoon> where is th proplem u think?? what makes torrent slow?
[13:45] <ForgeAus> actually I shouldn't do that here anyway
[13:45] <ForgeAus> if the link path is absolute it will be wrong anyway
[13:46] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[13:47] <JavaBeans> Hi
[13:47] <Kheops> hmmm
[13:48] <Kheops> what's a  repository's key ?
[13:50] <hyper__ch> what's kdebase-bin-kde3 needed for?
[13:51] <BluesKaj> Kheops, the repository key is a validation that the source packages are bugfree and legit ...I think. Sometimes the key can't be validated due to changes in pkgs.
[13:52] <Kheops> ky
[13:52] <Kheops> 10x
[13:53] <gundam_rx78nt1> BluesKaj: I have found my problem with Amarok...
[13:53] <BluesKaj> hyper__ch, copy and paste kdebase-bin-kde3 into adept searchbox then look at the 'properties' the explanation will pop up.
[13:53] <BluesKaj> cool, gundam_rx78nt1 , what was it ?
[13:53] <hyper__ch> BluesKaj: maybe someone would directly know
[13:54] <gundam_rx78nt1> when the update for alsa came out conflicted with the settings I had on amarok.
[13:54] <BluesKaj> hyper__ch, we're not here to hold your hand , if you can follow instructions that's what we're here for.
[13:54] <gundam_rx78nt1> I wiped out the xine config files in my .xine directory and it workd.
[13:54] <hyper__ch> BluesKaj: hmmm, why would kde4-core want to remove kdebase-bin-kde3 ?
[13:54] <hyper__ch> BluesKaj: did I ask to hold my hand?
[13:55] <gundam_rx78nt1> oh, are we dancing here? LOL.
[13:55] <gundam_rx78nt1> BluesKaj: the funny thing is that someone last night had the same problem as I did.
[13:56] <BluesKaj> hyper__ch, can you copy & paste ?
[13:56] <hyper__ch> !pastebin
[13:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[13:57] <hyper__ch> BluesKaj: sure I can ^^ -->  http://phpfi.com/295573
[13:58] <Kheops> somebody to help here about Wine ?
[13:58] <hyper__ch> Kheops: depends on your problem with it
[13:58] <Kheops> i instal wine
[13:58] <Kheops> dosen't work
[13:59] <hyper__ch> Kheops: and what doesn't work?
[13:59] <Kheops> wine
[13:59] <Kheops> cfg
[13:59] <PPSD> is there a way to type in a unicode character in kde directly?
[13:59] <Kheops> wine-0.9.53
[13:59] <hyper__ch> Kheops: and what error?
[13:59] <Kheops> hmm
[13:59] <Kheops> moment
[13:59] <Kheops> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[13:59] <Kheops> Xlib: No protocol specified
[14:00] <Kheops> Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
[14:00] <Kheops> Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
[14:00] <Kheops> Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
[14:00] <Kheops> Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
[14:00] <Kheops> err:ole:apartment_createwindowifneeded CreateWindow failed with error 1114
[14:00] <hyper__ch> Kheops: xserver is running?
[14:00] <BluesKaj> hyper__ch, I tried kde4 side by side with the existing kde3 and they seemed to work ok until some pkges got taken over by kde4 excluseively , maybe that's what your question is about ...I wan't impressed with kde4 so I uninstalled it.
[14:00] <Kheops> what is xserver ?
[14:01] <momal> !xserver
[14:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:01] <momal> !xorg
[14:01] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[14:01] <Kheops> hmmm
[14:01] <Kheops> u don't know what is that
[14:01] <Kheops> ....
[14:01] <hyper__ch> BluesKaj: according to the description kdebase-bin-kde3 seems to be quite important... but are you implaying kde3 could still run with the kdebase-bin-kde4 version?
[14:02] <hyper__ch> Kheops: on the machine you're trying to run wine, do you have gnome or kde or xfce or fluxbox etc. running?
[14:02] <BluesKaj> yes hyper__ch , but not all pkges ..but i don't know why
[14:02] <Kheops> aham
[14:02] <Kheops> KDE runs
[14:02] <hyper__ch> BluesKaj: oh well, I'll try it
[14:03] <Kheops> hyper__ch: ?
[14:03] <Jucato> hyper__ch: it's ok if kdebase-bin-kde3 is removed (when installing kde4)... you can ask in #kubuntu-kde4 for details
[14:03] <hyper__ch> Kheops: then I don't know... did you install it from the repos?
[14:03] <Kheops> yes
[14:03] <BluesKaj> Kheops, what graphics card are you using ?
[14:03] <Kheops> hmmmmm why it dosen't work ?
[14:03] <nareshov> Hi, why can't I set Luxi Mono as my Konsole font even though I have it installed? It doesn't show up in Konsole's font-picker!
[14:03] <Kheops> GeForce FX 5200
[14:03] <hyper__ch> Kheops: the budgetdedicated repos?
[14:03] <Kheops> yes
[14:03] <Kheops> i install it corectley
[14:04] <hyper__ch> Kheops: last time I did it, it run without issues
[14:04] <Kheops> .....
[14:04] <hyper__ch> Kheops: winecfg
[14:04] <Kheops> how i can run it ?
[14:04] <Kheops> same error
[14:04] <hyper__ch> Kheops: dunno, maybe ask in #wine or #winhq (or whatever the channel is)
[14:05] <ForgeAus> bbl
[14:05] <ForgeAus> from in windows
[14:05] <ForgeAus> to try my AndLinux to see if its fixed
[14:08] <BluesKaj> Kheops, what app are you trying to run in wine ?
[14:10] <Kheops> star craft
[14:10] <Kheops> but wine dosen't seems to work
[14:10] <hyper__ch> Kheops: what are your computer specs?
[14:10] <neville> Kheops
[14:10] <hyper__ch> Kheops: cpu and ram
[14:10] <BluesKaj> Kheops, how did you install wine , with apt or adept ?
[14:11] <Kheops> command line
[14:11] <BluesKaj> ok apt
[14:11] <Kheops> aham
[14:11] <Kheops> apt-get
[14:11] <Kheops> etc
[14:11] <Kheops> cpu and ram
[14:11] <Kheops> INTEL 3.1 Ghz
[14:11] <Kheops> Ram 1 GB
[14:11] <Kheops> is there enough ?
[14:11] <hyper__ch> Kheops: wouldn't installing windows in vmware or vbox be much more confortable?
[14:12] <Kheops> what's that ?
[14:12] <hyper__ch> Kheops: those are two different programs, that allow you to run other operating systems within
[14:12] <BluesKaj> Kheops, did you install any other graphics drivers besides the the default nvidia ?
[14:12] <hyper__ch> Kheops: e.g. you can run a windows xp within your ubuntu installation
[14:13] <hyper__ch> Kheops: the only thing is, it doesn't support (yet) direct x... but startcraft does not need that
[14:13] <hyper__ch> Kheops: with your processor and ram it should run ok
[14:13] <Kheops> hmmm
[14:14] <Kheops> i don't have any secial drive
[14:14] <Kheops> for my video card
[14:14] <Kheops> ....
[14:14] <Kheops> defauld
[14:15] <hyper__ch> Kheops: what videocard have you got?
[14:15] <Kheops> GeForce FX 5200
[14:16] <BluesKaj> ok Kheops , pls check system settings/advanced for "restricted drivers"
[14:16] <hyper__ch> damn, you were quicker ;)
[14:16] <Kheops> ky..
[14:16] <Kheops> and them ?
[14:17] <BluesKaj> Kheops, do you have them listed?
[14:17] <Kheops> wait
[14:18] <Kheops> i can't find systen advanced
[14:18] <hyper__ch> under the search bar
[14:19] <Kheops> nop
[14:19] <Kheops> not there
[14:19] <Kheops> tell me exactly
[14:19] <BluesKaj> Kheops, inthe Kmenu-system settings
[14:19] <hyper__ch> Kheops: open a terminal
[14:19] <JavaBeans> I have a GeForce 7800 and using the restricted drivers didn't fix my resolution
[14:19] <hyper__ch> BluesKaj: maybe he need to install it first
[14:19] <JavaBeans> I can't get any higher than 1024*768
[14:20] <Kheops> BluesKaj:  : yes
[14:20] <Kheops> but is not there
[14:20] <BluesKaj> JavaBeans, did you reboot ?
[14:20] <JavaBeans> Yeah
[14:20] <hyper__ch> Kheops: apt-cache search restricted --> post the output here:   http://www.phpfi.com  --> after that give the URL of the site
[14:20] <Kheops> any restricted drivers
[14:20] <JavaBeans> I figured I need to change the xorg
[14:20] <JavaBeans> To add the right horizontal sync
[14:20] <JavaBeans> Or add other resolutions
[14:20] <Kheops> BluesKaj:  !
[14:20] <Kheops> i don't see any RESTRICTED DRIVERS there
[14:21] <hyper__ch> Kheops: open a terminal
[14:21] <hyper__ch> Kheops: apt-cache search restricted --> post the output here:   http://www.phpfi.com  --> after that give the URL of the site
[14:21] <BluesKaj> ok Kheops , no restricted drivers for your card , perhaps the proprietary ones on nvidias website will help ..I'm not sure
[14:21] <Kheops> hmm
[14:21] <Kheops> no
[14:21] <Kheops> tell me where i can find RESTRICTED DRIVERS
[14:21] <Kheops> ?
[14:22] <SlimeyPete> !restricted
[14:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[14:22] <hyper__ch> Kheops: open a terminal
[14:22] <hyper__ch> Kheops: apt-cache search restricted --> post the output here:   http://www.phpfi.com  --> after that give the URL of the site
[14:22] <Kheops> what is that ?
[14:22] <SlimeyPete> hrm, ignore ubotu ;)
[14:22] <BluesKaj> JavaBeans, sometimes installing monitor drivers helps , not just the graphics card drivers , if you're on a desktop
[14:22] <Kheops> can somebody HELP ME TO RUN WINE ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???
[14:22] <Kheops> can somebody HELP ME TO RUN WINE ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???
[14:23] <JavaBeans> Yes, I am on a desktop
[14:23] <JavaBeans> I have a viewsonic monitor
[14:23] <Kheops> can somebody HELP ME TO RUN WINE ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??? ?!?!?!??!?!?!
[14:23] <Jucato> Kheops: please stop doing that
[14:23] <SlimeyPete> Kheops: calm down.
[14:23] <BluesKaj> !shout | Kheops
[14:23] <ubotu> Kheops: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[14:23] <JavaBeans> I'll see if I can find drivers for my particular monitor
[14:23] <bomber> how about a nice kick/ban for starters
[14:24] <hyper__ch> hiho Jucato
[14:24] <LjL> !etiquette > Kheops    (Kheops, see the private message from Ubotu)
[14:24] <Kheops> so can This channel helps me ?
[14:24] <LjL> Kheops: what's the question?
[14:24] <SlimeyPete> Kheops: someone may help you if you are patient and polite.
[14:24] <Kheops> lol ?
[14:24] <Kheops> i'm very polite
[14:24] <LjL> Kheops: lol is not a question
[14:24] <rebugger> lol
[14:25] <rebugger> ^^
[14:25] <Kheops> so i think not
[14:25] <Kheops> helping here..
[14:25] <SlimeyPete> Kheops: you're not being polite.
[14:25]  * BluesKaj backs off...some new ideas might help 
[14:25] <Kheops> i'm very very polite
[14:25] <SlimeyPete> Kheops: what is your problem with wine?
[14:25] <Jucato> Kheops: 1. wine is a very non-standard application. it's used, as you know to run Windows programs on a Linux machine, so don't expect that it's a common thing that everyone has and everyone can help
[14:25] <bomber> what have you done so far to get wine setup?
[14:25] <SlimeyPete> is it giving you an error?
[14:25] <LjL> Kheops: drop the arguing about politeness and ask your question please
[14:25] <Jucato> 2. #winehq might be a better place for you to get help with Wine
[14:26] <Kheops> yes
[14:26] <Kheops> i install it
[14:26] <Kheops> from the official web site
[14:26] <Kheops> and when i type winecfg
[14:26] <LjL> Kheops: why?
[14:26] <Kheops> error comes up
[14:26] <rebugger> what error?
[14:26] <Kheops> i duno how i can start that Wine program
[14:26] <LjL> Kheops: WINE is available in the repositories
[14:26] <Kheops> i paste here
[14:26] <Jucato> that's #3... you install something from a 3rd-party source... so that lessesn the amount of help we can do
[14:26] <LjL> no
[14:26] <LjL> !paste
[14:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[14:26] <Kheops> LjL: i know
[14:27] <Kheops> but i install it from command line
[14:27] <gundam_rx78nt1> see ya'll later.
[14:27] <LjL> Kheops: how did you install it, exactly?
[14:27] <Kheops> yep
[14:27] <Kheops> wine-0.9.53
[14:27] <LjL> *how* did you install it? what did you type?
[14:27] <Kheops> when i type /wine --version
[14:27] <Kheops> hmmm
[14:27] <Kheops> man it is installed
[14:27] <LjL> Kheops, mind answering my questions?
[14:27] <Kheops> but i don't know how it works
[14:28] <LjL> Kheops: how did you install it?
[14:28] <Kheops> nop
[14:28] <Kheops> as the web site write
[14:28] <LjL> which is?
[14:28] <Kheops> moment
[14:28] <Kheops> to paste u
[14:28] <Kheops> wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[14:28] <LjL> Kheops: ok.
[14:28] <Kheops> sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/dapper.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list
[14:28] <ForgeAus> hey all :)
[14:28] <ForgeAus> back
[14:29] <ForgeAus> but it didn't fix my AndLinux
[14:29] <Kheops> sudo apt-get update
[14:29] <Kheops> sudo apt-get install wine
[14:29] <Kheops> that's all
[14:29] <LjL> Kheops: which Kubuntu version are you on?
[14:29] <Kheops> 6.06.1
[14:29] <ForgeAus> still hangs but fixed the error, now its just on * runing local scripts (rc.local)
[14:29] <Kheops> dapper
[14:29] <LjL> Kheops: what happens if you type « wine notepad »?
[14:29] <ForgeAus> something ELSE in there is stopping it
[14:29] <Kheops> Description:    Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS
[14:29] <Kheops> Release:        6.06
[14:29] <Kheops> Codename:       dapper
[14:30] <Kheops> hmmm
[14:30] <Kheops> if i type wine notepad ?
[14:30] <LjL> Kheops: yes, in a shell - wine notepad
[14:30] <Kheops> ky
[14:30] <Kheops> wait
[14:30] <Kheops> same
[14:30] <Kheops> error
[14:30] <LjL> Kheops: time to tell us what error
[14:31] <Kheops> i tell 3 times
[14:31] <Kheops> nobody helps
[14:31] <LjL> Kheops: i must have missed it
[14:31] <Kheops> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[14:31] <Kheops> Xlib: No protocol specified
[14:31] <Kheops> ALSA lib seq_hw.c:456:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory
[14:31] <Kheops> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[14:31] <Kheops> Xlib: No protocol specified
[14:32] <Kheops> Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
[14:32] <Kheops> Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
[14:32] <Kheops> Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
[14:32] <Kheops> Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
[14:32] <jpatrick> !paste | Kheops
[14:32] <ubotu> Kheops: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[14:32] <rebugger> !nopaste
[14:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nopaste - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:32] <LjL> Kheops: that shell isn't a root shell, is it?
[14:32] <LjL> Kheops: why on earth are you running wine (or anything) in a root shell?
[14:33] <LjL> Kheops: the problem is that wine won't run from a root shell. neither will any other graphical application, really.
[14:33] <JavaBeans> Hey guys, just another quick question
[14:33] <JavaBeans> How can I edit the xorg file without logging in as root?
[14:33] <LjL> Kheops: root shouldn't be *enabled* for starters
[14:33] <LjL> Kheops: run it as normal user?
[14:34] <Kheops> hmmm
[14:34] <LjL> !root
[14:34] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[14:34] <LjL> !noroot
[14:34] <ubotu> We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[14:34] <Kheops> what should i do ?
[14:34] <rebugger> JavaBeans: think, that doesnt work
[14:34] <Kheops> ?!?!?!
[14:34] <LjL> Kheops: run it from a normal user. not root.
[14:34] <Kheops> how ?
[14:34] <BluesKaj> JavaBeans, you need permissions to edit xorg
[14:34] <Kheops> relogin ?
[14:34] <LjL> Kheops: if you know how to get a root shell, you should know how to get a *non* root shell...?
[14:34] <JavaBeans> Yes, I understand
[14:35] <JavaBeans> That's why I am asking how to obtain that privilage
[14:35] <Kheops> ky
[14:35] <LjL> Kheops: are you running you *KDE* as root?
[14:35] <JavaBeans> Because I need to edit it...
[14:35] <LjL> your*
[14:35] <Kheops> nop
[14:35] <LjL> Kheops: then just open a Konsole not as root. and type "exit" in the root one.
[14:35] <hyper__ch> JavaBeans: sudo nano /etc/xorg/xorg.conf
[14:35] <BluesKaj> JavaBeans, alt+F2, kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:35] <Kheops> it's working
[14:36] <hyper__ch> JavaBeans: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:36] <hyper__ch> ^^
[14:36] <Kheops> LjL: i don't understand why wine don't work on root
[14:36] <Kheops> ?
[14:36] <LjL> Kheops: unsurprising. please never run things as root, especially not a whole shell, unless you know *exactly* what you're doing.
[14:36] <JavaBeans> Thanks for the help
[14:36] <LjL> Kheops: because your X screen is owned by your user, not by root
[14:37] <Kheops> ky
[14:37] <Kheops> good to know
[14:37] <LjL> Kheops: when you need to run something graphical as root, use "kdesudo". however, this isn't needed most of the times, *at all*, and may be dangerous.
[14:37] <LjL> !kdesudo > Kheops    (Kheops, see the private message from Ubotu)
[14:37] <LjL> Kheops: to run programs in WINE, you can just type « wine /path/to/the/program.exe », generally speaking. not as root.
[14:37] <BluesKaj> LjL, kheops is running dapper
[14:38] <LjL> right
[14:38] <Kheops> ky
[14:38] <Kheops> 10x
[14:38] <Kheops> i used kubuntu only for servers
[14:38] <Kheops> don't know about graphical or something
[14:38] <LjL> Kheops: "kdesu" on dapper, not "kdesudo"
[14:38] <Kheops> only servers
[14:38] <LjL> Kheops: well, on a server too, there's no real reason to use a root shell as a rule
[14:38] <Kheops> hmm i was running root always..
[14:39] <Kheops> because i can do everything
[14:39] <Kheops> :)
[14:39] <LjL> Kheops: you won't die out of typing "sudo" before programs that actually *need* to be root
[14:39] <LjL> i do that all the time, and i'm still alive
[14:39] <Kheops> :)
[14:39] <Kheops> ky man
[14:40] <Kheops> now it works ..10x to u
[14:40] <Kheops> i type winecfg
[14:40] <llutz> Kheops: scriptkiddies love guys like you ;)
[14:40] <Kheops> and how can i play Star Craft ? :)
[14:40] <Kheops> llutz: i don't run any script
[14:40] <Kheops> ;)
[14:40] <rebugger> oO
[14:40] <Kheops> and no male script
[14:40] <llutz> if you always act as root, you will sooner or later
[14:40] <Kheops> because i know some pearl
[14:40] <Kheops> :)))
[14:41] <Kheops> and when i was young i do some exploits and flood archives
[14:41] <Kheops> np
[14:41] <Kheops> hmmm LjL : how can i play Star Craft on this Wine
[14:41] <rebugger> (cant say anything to that.......)
[14:41] <rebugger> (just thinking of: .....arrrrrgg)
[14:42] <Jucato> Kheops: I'm gonna say it again for the nth time.. "how to run ____ in Wine" questions are best asked in #winehq
[14:42] <Kheops> pfff pfff
[14:43] <Kheops> oky
[14:43] <rebugger> (ignorance should be kicked)
[14:43] <llutz> rebugger: i could say a lot, but i have to watch  language here ...
[14:43] <rebugger> ^^ yes llutz
[14:43] <yakuzi> BluesKaj: the problem i had? i solved it, on the guide (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219894&highlight=logitech+mouse) i found after a while loking i had to replace "option "CorePointer"" with "option "SencCoreEvents" True""
[14:43] <Kheops> don't use the ubotu to me :)
[14:43] <Kheops> i don't like him :>
[14:44] <rebugger> sometimes i think..... "well, linux isnt for you - just forget it" ^^
[14:44] <Jucato> rebugger: more like "you aren't for linux" :)
[14:44] <rebugger> ^^
[14:45] <BluesKaj> hey yakuzi , cool ! , glad to hear you managed just fine :)
[14:45]  * chanika continues the dist-upgrade madness
[14:46] <yakuzi> i've to say, it's sad the mouse doesn't work like it should directly, but it's doable for a linux noob to get it working (if you aren't afraid of trying something)
[14:46] <llutz> Jucato: "Linux is userfriendly, its just selective about its friends"   not selective enough </ot>
[14:46] <rebugger> chanika: i stumbled on distupgrade ^^ tried to dist-upgrade a dapper to gutsy (in a vm) and didnt work...
[14:46] <chanika> what do I do about perl locale warnings?
[14:46] <rebugger> lol llutz
[14:47] <chanika> rebugger: that's exactly what I'm forcing upon this poor laptop
[14:47] <JavaBeans> After I make a change to the xorg file within the terminal, how do I save the changes back to the file?
[14:47] <LjL> JavaBeans: with nano?=
[14:48] <rebugger> chanika: i'm trying it in a vm before working on my vserver.... why the hell cant they give me a gutsy-install... if it wont work, ill have to go with debian4
[14:48] <llutz> chanika/ rebugger why don't you install fresh, saves you lots of time (and more)?
[14:48] <BluesKaj> yakuzi, in my experience 50% of probs are solved by users themselves (myself included) just some patience and judicious searches seem to work wonders :)
[14:48] <rebugger> llutz: next week i get a vserver with dapper (they dont offer gutsy)
[14:48] <rebugger> llutz: so i have to find a good way to upgrade to gutsy
[14:48] <llutz> rebugger: then better use debian4 (imho)
[14:49] <llutz> rebugger: debootstrap with gutsy maybe
[14:49] <JavaBeans> Yeah, I'm using nano
[14:49] <LjL> JavaBeans: Ctrl+X, Enter, Enter. do you have a backup?
[14:49] <JavaBeans> Yeah
[14:49] <JavaBeans> Thanks ;-)
[14:49] <rebugger> rebugger: debian - i was just thinking about that, but would like to give ubuntuserver a try
[14:49] <yakuzi> BluesKaj: trial and error always works ;-)
[14:50] <chanika> darnit
[14:50] <rebugger> llutz: didnt ever try a debootstrap
[14:50] <chanika> installing udev would break libdevmapper1.02
[14:50] <chanika> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::logic_error'
[14:50] <BluesKaj> JavaBeans, oh , din't realize you were using the cli
[14:51] <llutz> rebugger: give it a try if you don't want debian
[14:51] <rebugger> llutz: any good howto?
[14:51] <chanika> how do Ifix that error?
[14:51] <llutz> rebugger: i only had a german one... just ask mr. google
[14:52] <rebugger> llutz: gib mir die deutsche :)
[14:52] <rebugger> llutz: and i will google too
[14:52] <BluesKaj> llutz, I had a die hard debian user tell me that (k)ubuntu was becoming too "suburban & mainstream" for his taste :)
[14:53] <rebugger> llutz: everyone should use, what he wants ;)
[14:53] <BluesKaj> of course he hadn't tried (k)ubuntu
[14:53] <theunixgeek> I followed http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/18/removing-kde-icons-in-gnome-remove-gnome-icons-in-kde/ to remove KDE  apps from the GNOME menus and vice versa; how do I undo it.
[14:54] <theunixgeek> ?
[14:54] <rebugger> BluesKaj: well and hardliners are hardliners
[14:54] <llutz> BluesKaj: i put my hope on hardy, because gutsy here is the unstablest distro i had in about 13 yrs
[14:54] <llutz> rebugger: cannot find it anymore :(
[14:54] <rebugger> llutz: well, no problem - ill ask mr. google
[14:54] <chanika> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-23-386/usr/sbin/mkinitramfs: line 152: mktemp: command not found
[14:55] <chanika> ouch
[14:55] <rebugger> chanika: ran into the same problems - it will get worser ;)
[14:55] <chanika> uhoh.
[14:56] <chanika> um, so Ican't install mktemp because aptitude is too messed up
[14:56] <yakuzi> llutz: indeed, 7.10 isn't that stable... i had a few random shut-dows when doing just nothing :s, but that already some time ago i had it... maybe it's already fixed by an update :p
[14:56] <chanika> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.Reading package lists... Error!E: Malformed 3rd word in the Status line
[14:56] <rebugger> yakuzi, llutz: it works like a charm ;).... nearly
[14:57] <yakuzi> indeed, nearly, now i've my mouse working nicely and the few shut-downs gone ;-)
[14:57] <Stratman4300> got a quick question if anyones got a sec??
[14:57] <llutz> rebugger: so everone has it's own experience with it.
[14:58] <rebugger> llutz: righty right
[14:58] <rebugger> Stratman4300: just ask the question
[14:59] <Stratman4300> probably a silly question....  but...  just switched from Debian last night...    configuring my panels.....
[14:59] <yakuzi> yup...Feisty convinced me to try gutsy when it came out, and now i have to say i appreciate linux way more than windows.. win has too strange things and you can't solve them yourself :D
[14:59] <BluesKaj> !ask | Stratman4300
[14:59] <ubotu> Stratman4300: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[14:59] <Stratman4300> now i'm trying to adjust the size of my external taskbar.....  but i don't see the menu in the panel configurator to select which panel your configuring....
[15:00] <Stratman4300> ehh...  sorry....  new to IRC   =P
[15:00] <Stratman4300> did they do away with that menu???
[15:00] <rebugger> Stratman4300: just rightclick the panel, that you want to resize - and go to the settings
[15:00] <rebugger> then you can resize it
[15:02] <llutz> Stratman4300: or run kcontrol instead of crippled systemsettings, there you should find all those setting-menus
[15:02] <Stratman4300> right i select my external taskbar....  click configur external taskbar...  and it takes me to the panel configuration....   i go to arrangment to adjust the size but it selects to main panel by default....   there isn't a menu to select which panel your configuring anymore....   it's always been there in debian....  thought maybe i was going crazy..  lol
[15:03] <Jucato> it's a bug. you need to restart the panel to tell it that a new panel has been added/removed.
[15:03] <Jucato> Alt+F2, "dcop kicker kicker restart"
[15:03] <Stratman4300> ahhhh  gotcha....  thanks guys
[15:04] <Stratman4300> yup that did it...  thanks!!   :)
[15:04] <rider> hello
[15:08] <velh0> i need to press the power off button in my pc to activate hibernation in my kubuntu. how can I do that? thank you...
[15:11] <stefano> k
[15:11] <stefano> What?
[15:14] <JavaBeans> Hi all
[15:14] <JavaBeans> Just wanted to say thanks for the few that helped me with my graphics deal
[15:14] <JavaBeans> The monitor was the issue
[15:15] <miki> what happens with compiz after this changes in ubuntu i can't see window normaly in hardy?
[15:15] <BluesKaj> yes JavaBeans , sometimes ppl forget about the monitor settings ...quite important actually'
[15:16] <JavaBeans> Yeah, it was the last thing I thought about
[15:16] <JavaBeans> Always go straight for Nvidia, lol
[15:17] <BluesKaj> weel, ATI here and my monitor needed some custom settings to get my preferred resolution to work.
[15:17] <JavaBeans> When I was running windows it said that my refresh rate was 60
[15:17] <JavaBeans> And it would hide any other refresh rates that were not compatible
[15:17] <JavaBeans> Yet I am running 65 right now
[15:17] <JavaBeans> Is that going ot damage my monitor in any way?
[15:18] <JavaBeans> to*
[15:18] <BluesKaj> no, not 65
[15:18] <Patrick_Dugue> hi
[15:18] <rebugger> JavaBeans: no, but your eyes
[15:18] <rebugger> JavaBeans: try > 70
[15:18] <JavaBeans> So it needs to be higher?
[15:18] <JavaBeans> It appears that my monitor was not made to handle that
[15:18] <JavaBeans> It's a viewsonic 2235wm
[15:19] <rebugger> would be better for your eyes, to have it >70hz
[15:20] <BluesKaj> my old mitsubishi is running at 75hz
[15:20] <BluesKaj> Time to push some snow ..BBL
[15:21] <NiteOwl255> Can anyone assist me with getting kubuntu to work with my wLan?
[15:22] <muesli> is there a hardy specific ubuntu channel?
[15:23] <rebugger> BluesKaj: snow? where are you from sibiria?
[15:24] <NightBird> !hardy
[15:24] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:26] <NiteOwl255> does anyone have experience setting up kubuntu with a wireless router?
[15:27] <rebugger> NiteOwl255: well, why dont you just tell, what your problem is?
[15:27] <NiteOwl255> okay
[15:27] <Chani> I gave up, I'm gonna try and use my last blank cd to burn gutsy.... if the guy is still interested after all this insanity
[15:28] <Chani> his windoze install is even more broken right now, so who knows, he might be willing to let me keep mucking with things
[15:28] <NiteOwl255> it seems that the network connection will not connect to my wireless router, I have a NetGear WG111t usb 802.g usb adapter trying to connect to my WRT54GL linksys router
[15:29] <rebugger> NiteOwl255: so what have you done? is your wireless-adapter working?
[15:30] <NiteOwl255> it seems to be, it was showing me the available wrl network and I saw mine, tried to connect to it
[15:30] <rebugger> k
[15:30] <rebugger> how is/was the signal quality?
[15:31] <NiteOwl255> in the progress it would get up to about %57 and would say trying to setup ip address or something but then it would say that I could not connect
[15:31] <NiteOwl255> the signal quality was very good
[15:32] <rebugger> NiteOwl255: ok, thats no big problem
[15:32] <rebugger> NiteOwl255: just try to reconnect
[15:32] <rebugger> when it says: getting ip, it means you are connected
[15:32] <rebugger> NiteOwl255: dhcp is running on the router?
[15:32] <rebugger> NiteOwl255: so it can get an ip
[15:32] <NiteOwl255> but here's the thing, I use static IP so I went into manual settings and set the IP and everhting
[15:33] <rebugger> aah
[15:33] <rebugger> ok
[15:33] <NiteOwl255> I know it's set the the right IP, gateway and subnet but it still will not connect
[15:33] <rebugger> NiteOwl255: well, havent tried it with static ips
[15:34] <rebugger> NiteOwl255: i would suggest: keep playing around with the settings - you are near
[15:34] <rebugger> NiteOwl255: or just enable dhcp for your wlan
[15:34] <rebugger> ;)
[15:34] <NiteOwl255> here's another thing, in the network setting, under manual config
[15:35] <NiteOwl255> in the route tab, I set it to my wrl adapter I save the changes and even tried rebooting but it keeps going back to me ether controller
[15:36] <NiteOwl255> it seems like it's not keeping my setting or something
[15:36] <rebugger> NiteOwl255: well sorry, cant help with that - never needed these options
[15:37] <NiteOwl255> thanks anyways
[15:37] <luigi_> !it
[15:37] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[15:37] <blekos> hi, does anybody use cnr, how can i install it?
[15:38] <NiteOwl255> really starting to piss me off, as far as I can see it should work but the one setting not stay to what I set it tells me that it's something else wrong maybe
[15:38] <rebugger> blekos: wat is cnr?
[15:38] <jussi01> click n run
[15:38] <blekos> click  n run
[15:38] <ericwl> NiteOwl255: NetworkManager will always prefer your ethernet cable over your WLAN if it's the issue.
[15:39] <henk> hi all, i just installed kubuntu and copied my .kde from a previous ubuntu installation... however, the menu editor doesn't seem to want to start... can someone tell me which app would that be? apparantly, there is no "menu-editor" command :)
[15:39] <NiteOwl255> but I've even tried disabling the ether controller but it re-enables it
[15:39] <NiteOwl255> why is that?
[15:40] <ericwl> NiteOwl255: and what if you just unplug the cable?
[15:40] <luigi_> can i add on kopete the italian server of ubuntu?
[15:40] <luigi_> how?
[15:40] <Jucato> henk: kmenuedit
[15:40] <henk> thx!
[15:40] <NiteOwl255> the cable is already unplugged
[15:41] <Jucato> luigi_: you're using Konversation. why do you need to add it to Kopete?
[15:41] <NiteOwl255> stubborn thing I'm finding
[15:41] <Jucato> luigi_: also, #ubuntu-it is on this same server. you just need to go to the channel. no need to add a new server
[15:42] <luigi_> noooo i need to add on konversation.. apologies!
[15:42] <NiteOwl255> it seems to want to connect wirelessly only with DHCP
[15:43] <NiteOwl255> shouldn't I be able to tell it what IP to use and stuff?
[15:43] <luigi_> Jucato your link doesn't work.
[15:43] <ericwl> NiteOwl255: OK, you lost me...
[15:43] <NiteOwl255> sorry, where did I loose you?
[15:44] <Jucato> luigi_: what link? just click on #ubuntu-it or type /j #ubuntu-it
[15:44] <ericwl> NiteOwl255: let me try to repeat what I understood (or what I think I would do at your place :-) )...
[15:45] <luigi_> damn! someone can help me with a doubt with a wireless?
[15:46] <ericwl> NiteOwl255: you didn't change anything to your computer, only to your router, where you assigned a fixed IP address to the MAC address of your WLAN adapter?
[15:46] <ericwl> luigi_: don't ask to ask, just ask....
[15:47] <dorkface> HI all.  I have a .tff file that has a font that I really want to use.  I've searched google, but I couldn't find anything on converting .tff to .pcf.  Is it possible?
[15:47] <dorkface> or can konsole use .tff?
[15:48] <NiteOwl255> oh no, I've set my router to static IPs. So any computer wanting to contect to it have to be config to a specific IP range, subnetmask and gateway.
[15:49] <NiteOwl255> with DHCP the router provide that info to the computers trying to connect to it
[15:49] <NiteOwl255> I prefer to do it manually
[15:50] <mixed> anyone wants to help me remove windows from my distro?
[15:51] <NiteOwl255> this mean that on my kubuntu I have to tell it manually what IP, subnet and gateway to use
[15:51] <ericwl> NiteOwl255: OK, understood (not why you do this, but what you do).
[15:51] <mixed> I have Linux installed in a SATA drive and windows in an IDE HD, it's all set up as dual-boot, how can I remove the IDE HD from my distro and make linux boot up normal?
[15:52] <ericwl> NiteOwl255: sorry, not experience with static IPs and WLAN. If I want to have a specific computer always get the same IP, I just set it up accordingly in my router, using the MAC address.
[15:53] <ericwl> dorkface: konsole can use ttf (I assume that's what you mean with tff).
[15:53] <NiteOwl255> I'm not familiar with that
[15:54] <NiteOwl255> but still is there a way for me to force the setting?
[15:54] <dorkface> ericwl: ah, yes, I do.  :)  Do you happen to know how to be able to get konsole to use the file?  When I go into the font options, there are only a few fonts to select from, and no import option.
[15:56] <Jucato> konsole can only use monospace fonts
[15:56] <Jucato> (afaik)
[15:56] <ericwl> dorkface: jucato is right konsole shows only monospace fonts installed on your system.
[15:56] <dorkface> ah
[15:57] <dorkface> ericwl: So, I am basically out of luck? hehe
[15:58] <ericwl> NiteOwl255: if you use ifconfig, you'll say for each interface a HWaddr value (6 hexadecimal numbers, like 00:1C:C4:84:80:55)
[15:59] <ericwl> Most WLAN routers offer the possibility to link a fixed IP address to a MAC (or hardware) address.
[15:59] <mefisto__> dorkface: you probably wouldn't want non-monospace fonts, otherwise formatting using tabs and spaces won't look as intended.
[15:59] <ericwl> And you don't need to change anything to the computers.
[16:00] <dorkface> mefisto__: ah
[16:00] <NiteOwl255> i guess, so there no way to get it working under the current config?
[16:00] <dorkface> Thanks all, though :)
[16:01] <ericwl> Perhaps, just no experience with it...
[16:03] <crislsizl> hello
[16:04] <crislsizl> anyone reading this?
[16:04] <emilsedgh> crislsizl: sure!
[16:05] <emilsedgh> !ask | crislsizl
[16:05] <rebugger> no, lease try again later ;)
[16:05] <ubotu> crislsizl: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[16:05] <crislsizl> i installed ubuntu on my kubuntu and it didnt work. now after i tried to uninstall it didnt work right either
[16:06] <crislsizl> now i got the kubuntu bootscreen and login screnn
[16:06] <crislsizl> i would like to now how either install kubuntu properly or uninstall it properlt
[16:07] <mixed> !grub
[16:07] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[16:07] <sigma_1234> is it possible to run ubuntu in kubuntu with virtualbox?
[16:07] <crislsizl> i am a total noob!
[16:08] <crislsizl> i got ubuntu
[16:08] <crislsizl> and it works
[16:08] <crislsizl> but i tried to install kubuntu on the command line
[16:09] <crislsizl> and it seemed to work
[16:09] <crislsizl> until i rebootet
[16:09] <crislsizl> boot screen and login=kubuntu
[16:09] <crislsizl> desktop=ubuntu
[16:09] <rebugger> you can set in the loginscreen, what do you want to use - KDE or Gnome
[16:09] <subopt> What should my JAVA_HOME be set to?
[16:10] <crislsizl> i would like to have the whole environment in kubuntu
[16:10] <rebugger> crislsizl: then set it to kde
[16:10] <rebugger> subopt: what do you need it for?
[16:10] <crislsizl> nothing special
[16:10] <crislsizl> i was curious
[16:11] <subopt> rebugger: cosmo.
[16:12] <noob_crislsizl> is there a better room to ask such questions than here?
[16:12] <blekos> i want to run a .jar file, how can I install java? Do I need Java envirionmet?
[16:12] <marc> hiho
[16:12] <noob_crislsizl> go to add hardware and choose java
[16:12] <marc> i can't run a setup.sh file
[16:13] <rebugger> blekos: sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre && sudo update-alternatives --config java
[16:13] <blekos> add hardware??
[16:13] <marc> with the parm ./setup.sh
[16:13] <rebugger> blekos: java -jar ./file.jar
[16:13] <rebugger> marc: chmod +x setup.sh && ./setup.sh
[16:13] <rebugger> marc: or: sh ./setup.sh
[16:14] <noob_crislsizl> how do i get a channel list for this irc???
[16:14] <marc> doesn't work
[16:15] <marc> permission denied
[16:15] <rebugger> marc: sudo sh ./setup.sh
[16:15] <marc> i am aalready in root.
[16:15]  * Sbucat io odio i pignoli!
[16:16] <rebugger> marc: well then you have a problem ;)
[16:16] <ericwl> marc: what are the rights of setup.sh when you do 'ls -l setup.sh'?
[16:17] <noob_crislsizl> anyone want to help a helpless noob?
[16:17] <rebugger> !ask | #noob_crislsizl
[16:17] <noob_crislsizl> install kubuntu?
[16:17] <ubotu> #noob_crislsizl: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[16:18] <marc> -rwxr-xr-x
[16:18] <rebugger> marc: should work
[16:18] <rebugger> marc: just to be sure: exit the root-shell and type "sudo sh ./setup.sh"
[16:19] <noob_crislsizl> rebugger can u open a private message box, othereise its irritating
[16:19] <rebugger> noob_crislsizl: no, i wont "personal support".... well, i would give... but just for big cash $$ ;)
[16:20] <ericwl> marc: can you copy&paste the exact message you get when you call ./setup.sh?
[16:20] <marc> marc@webserver:~/kylix3_open$ sudo sh ./setup.sh
[16:20] <marc> ./setup.sh: 93: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[16:21] <ericwl> marc: Aha, script is buggy!
[16:21] <marc> marc@webserver:~/kylix3_open$ sudo  ./setup.sh
[16:21] <marc>                                    BORLAND KYLIX 3
[16:21] <marc> Abh�ngigkeiten werden �berpr�ft...
[16:21] <marc> WARNUNG: konnte nicht gefunden werden libX11.so
[16:21] <marc> Kernel-Version >= 2.2.0....OK
[16:21] <marc> Glibc-Version >= 2.1.2....OK
[16:21] <marc> X11-Server....OK
[16:21] <marc> Libjpeg-Version >= 6.2.0....OK
[16:21] <marc> ./setup.sh: line 350: [: x11-2: integer expression expected
[16:22] <marc> ./setup.sh: line 352: [: x11-2: integer expression expected
[16:22] <marc> ./setup.sh: line 354: [: x11-2: integer expression expected
[16:22] <marc> ./setup.sh: line 350: [: x11-2: integer expression expected
[16:22] <rebugger> marc - stop
[16:22] <marc> ./setup.sh: line 352: [: x11-2: integer expression expected
[16:22] <marc> ./setup.sh: line 354: [: x11-2: integer expression expected
[16:22] <marc> Libgtk-Version >= 1.2.0....FEHLGESCHLAGEN
[16:22] <marc> Ihr System erf�llt die Mindestsystemanforderungen nicht.
[16:22] <marc> Setup kann nicht fortgesetzt werden.
[16:22] <marc> ?
[16:23] <RoboCop> i need a server with root access. but i dont have much data transfer and connectivity speed requirments and no restrictions. can any one recomend a good lowest cost dedi.. and with root acces. vps dds ..?
[16:24] <ericwl> marc: I think you need to install libx11 (libx11-6 package under gutsy).
[16:25] <ericwl> marc: and you need to have libgtk1.2 installed
[16:26] <thechris> wma skips, amd64.  is there a fix for this or advice?
[16:26] <ericwl> marc: and the script is really buggy (btw, 'sh ./setup.sh' fails because it's a bash script)
[16:27] <marc> yeah i think i must install the libgtk1.2 but whats the syntax for apt-get?
[16:27] <thechris> odd, did they not put the #!/bin/bash in the file?
[16:27] <ericwl> thechris: you speak to me?
[16:27] <thechris> ericwl: yeah
[16:28] <ericwl> marc: apt-get install libgtk1.2 (or use Synaptic)
[16:28] <ericwl> thechris: it's most probably there and that's why './setup.sh' and 'sh ./setup.sh' fails
[16:29] <ericwl> thechris: calling the script with 'sh ./setup.sh' overwrites the bang thing...
[16:30] <ericwl> thechris: (I meant  './setup.sh' *works* and 'sh ./setup.sh' fails)
[16:31] <ericwl> marc: I need to go but you might face other issues, Kylix is pretty old stuff and might not work without some tweaking of the installation script on a newer Linux.
[16:32] <MaskOfSanity> yeah but i will try it
[16:32] <MaskOfSanity> else i will delete all kylix files.... it should be only a test
[16:32] <ericwl> tweak = try ;-)
[16:33] <MaskOfSanity> but it seems to start
[16:34] <MaskOfSanity> it works
[16:34] <MaskOfSanity> thx
[16:35] <MaskOfSanity> whats a good alternate to kylix?
[16:35] <MaskOfSanity> a cpp ide?
[16:35] <MaskOfSanity> which?
[16:36] <hydrogen> kdevelop?
[16:36] <hydrogen> vim?
[16:37] <sourcemaker> I habe installed virtualbox... but the modules is not found
[16:37] <sourcemaker> FATAL: Module vboxdrv not found.
[16:37] <MaskOfSanity> hmm.. but i think with kylix it should be able to run bcb projekts from windows to compile for linux
[16:40] <subopt> I think i need to *completely* reinstall Gutsy. I've got frequent browser lockups, and i've reinstalled both Java and the browsers several times. Is there some way to do a complete reinstall of everything i've got?
[16:40] <sourcemaker> Same Problem:  apt-get install --reinstall virtualbox-ose-modules-2.6.22-14-generic
[16:40] <sourcemaker> ekrengel: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a segmentation fault.
[16:41] <ekrengel> huh?
[16:41] <sourcemaker> ekrengel: sorry... wrong user
[16:41] <ekrengel> haha
[16:41] <ekrengel> k
[16:41] <ekrengel> i was like what did i do?
[16:41] <ekrengel> lol
[16:41] <odra> hi
[16:41] <jpatrick> !enter | ekrengel
[16:41] <ubotu> ekrengel: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[16:42] <odra_> caf
[16:43] <odra_> je zde nějaký Čech?
[16:43] <BluesKaj> !cz | odra_
[16:43] <ubotu> odra_: České uživatele žádáme, aby mluvili v kanále #ubuntu anglicky. Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Děkujeme.
[16:44] <odra_> sorry
[16:47] <rodolfo> cual es el Kubuntu español?
[16:47] <rebugger> !es
[16:47] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:59] <keoni> has anyone else experienced their sound just stop working out of the blue running 7.10 or any any suggestions on how to fix it?
[16:59] <SlimeyPete> keoni: yes I experienced that
[16:59] <SlimeyPete> I have an ATI SB450 HDA
[16:59] <keoni> what was the cause?
[17:00] <SlimeyPete> keoni: the version of ALSA in Gutsy doesn't support it (there's some sort of regression bug)
[17:00] <keoni> ah
[17:00] <SlimeyPete> I believe that the latest version does support it but I haven't tried it yet
[17:01] <keoni> my sound was working then i just noticed that i cannot unmute
[17:01] <teguh> how to upgrade kde
[17:01] <SlimeyPete> teguh: to kde 4?
[17:01] <teguh> yes
[17:01] <SlimeyPete> !kde4
[17:01] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[17:01] <JavaBeans> Hey all
[17:01] <SlimeyPete> hi
[17:01] <keoni> ah ill just  see if i can find another sound card lying around somewhere
[17:01] <SlimeyPete> keoni: probably best
[17:01] <alien__> hi
[17:02] <SlimeyPete> if you can find a Soundblaster you're good to go
[17:02] <JavaBeans> Unlike Ubuntu 7.10, Kubtuntu doesn't come preinstalled with Beryl, correct?
[17:02] <SlimeyPete> JavaBeans: correct
[17:02] <SlimeyPete> you don't want Beryl these days anyway, compiz-fusion is the successor to beryl/compiz.
[17:02] <JavaBeans> oh, okay
[17:02] <SlimeyPete> but it's not available by default either
[17:02] <alien__> can somebody help me to configure apache for php ?
[17:02] <JavaBeans> I'm a bit behind on the beryl deal
[17:02] <JavaBeans> I need to set compiz up then
[17:03] <SlimeyPete> alien__: just installing the php modules should work
[17:03] <JavaBeans> Thanks :-)
[17:03] <rebugger> alien__: there are enough tutorials - just ask google
[17:03] <SlimeyPete> !compiz
[17:03] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[17:03] <alien__> SlimeyPete> alien__: just installing the php modules should work
[17:03] <alien__> i install apache and php
[17:03] <SlimeyPete> alien__: if you use apt/adept to install the apache php modules, you apache configuration will be set up automatically
[17:03] <alien__> :)
[17:03] <SlimeyPete> yeah but you need libapache2-php or similar
[17:03] <SlimeyPete> (sorry, I'm on Windows atm so can't look)
[17:03] <alien__> i install apache and php
[17:04] <alien__> but how to connect apache on php
[17:04] <alien__> when i put script in http://localhost
[17:04] <SlimeyPete> yeah, but you need the php module for apache.
[17:04] <SlimeyPete> which is called libapache2-php or something similar to that.
[17:04] <alien__> which php module ?
[17:04] <hola> sameone uses virtualbox?
[17:04] <alien__> okey
[17:04] <SlimeyPete> hola: yes, I do
[17:04] <SlimeyPete> alien__: I'm sorry but I can't remember the exact name
[17:04] <SlimeyPete> there are php4 and php5 modules available
[17:04] <hola> SlimeyPete: have you tried ssh from hot t client?
[17:05] <JavaBeans> Does anyone here have a favorite Java IDE to use in Kubuntu?
[17:05] <SlimeyPete> hola: hrm... no, I don't think I have, sorry. I usually use a graphical login on the client.
[17:05] <SlimeyPete> JavaBeans: Eclipse is popular (but *huge*)
[17:05] <Lynoure> JavaBeans: eclipse is the one that you are most likely to see in the working life, still, I think
[17:05] <SlimeyPete> JavaBeans: when doing my degree I just used vim and javac, worked fine ;)
[17:06] <JavaBeans> Yeah, I've heard a bit about Eclipse
[17:06] <JavaBeans> We normally use JCreator on Windows machines
[17:06] <JavaBeans> I am not a fan of NetBeans
[17:06] <SlimeyPete> you need a meaty workstation to use Eclipse without getting annoyed at it, though. It's quite big and slow.
[17:06] <rebugger> netbeans rocks
[17:07] <JavaBeans> I also need to bring over some of my C# code
[17:07] <JavaBeans> Not sure if I can do that though
[17:07] <SlimeyPete> Eclipse seems like the Java equivalent of Visual Studio - tonnes of features but none of them work *quite* as well as you'd hope, and it'll eat as many resources as it can gets its hands on
[17:07] <JavaBeans> Yeah, that sounds like visual studio lol
[17:08] <JavaBeans> Not that I don't love what Visual Studio does for the business world
[17:08] <werner> SlimeyPete: right!!!!
[17:08] <JavaBeans> I don't want to hand code GUIs at work now
[17:08] <werner> when i was dev in java, i also only used NetBeans!
[17:08] <JavaBeans> It is still something that is good to know
[17:08] <JavaBeans> Right now I am just moving to the Linux platform for more system programming
[17:09] <werner> (now i'm only dev with QT4
[17:09] <werner> )
[17:09] <JavaBeans> I tried it out and decided I want to contribute if possible
[17:09] <JavaBeans> The current projects I am bringing over will not benefit the community at large because the needs are specific to one company
[17:10] <JavaBeans> I just need to find out a few real needs of the community and look into what I would have time to do
[17:11] <alien__> SlimeyPete
[17:11] <SlimeyPete> yeah, I wish my work was of more use to the wider community tbh (it's all closed-source internal stuff)
[17:11] <alien__> are you think on this
[17:11] <alien__> ibapache2-mod-php5
[17:11] <SlimeyPete> alien__: yes? :)
[17:11] <alien__> mod ?
[17:11] <alien__> okey
[17:11] <SlimeyPete> yes, that's the one
[17:11] <alien__> thanks
[17:11] <SlimeyPete> if you want php5.
[17:11] <alien__> okey
[17:11] <JavaBeans> Yeah, I feel the same SlimeyPete
[17:11] <alien__> but i install php5
[17:11] <alien__> i just need to configure it
[17:11] <SlimeyPete> alien__: if you install libapache2-mod-php5 it should configure itself automatically
[17:12] <JavaBeans> But if I can get a small community online to work on a project for linux on the weekends and during free time I would feel good knowing I am doing something anybody can use
[17:12] <SlimeyPete> though...hrm, hang on, I shall look at my own apache config
[17:12] <JavaBeans> I think Linux is well served enough in the graphical area at this point
[17:12] <werner> JavaBeans: do you use sourceforge?
[17:13] <JavaBeans> I don't use sourceforge
[17:13] <werner> JavaBeans: is there a reason why not?
[17:13] <SlimeyPete> alien__: you may need to add "Options ExecCGI" to the definition of your directory in your apache configuration
[17:13] <JavaBeans> No particular reason, just haven't
[17:14]  * SlimeyPete recently got slightly involved with a new project called pyroom
[17:14] <JavaBeans> The only time I use something like that is at work, but it's not sourceforge
[17:14] <werner> JavaBeans: there you may find a big community and everybody can join the project and dev-team ...
[17:15] <JavaBeans> I'll look around the site for sure, thanks a lot werner
[17:15] <SlimeyPete> trouble with sourceforge is there's so much on it and it's difficult to find anything interesting unless you know exactly what you want
[17:16] <JavaBeans> At work we have our own system setup like that, so everything is internal
[17:16] <werner> JavaBeans: i am dev within the SF-community and i am glad with the features of the platforme
[17:16] <JavaBeans> Which is why I never really checked out sourceforge
[17:16] <werner> JavaBeans: okay, i see :)
[17:16] <JavaBeans> But if I am going to be doing this from home that would be awesome!
[17:16] <alien__> SlimerPete: i get error
[17:17] <SlimeyPete> alien__: what's the error?
[17:17] <werner> JavaBeans: try it :)
[17:17] <alien__> Error: Conflicts with the instlaled package  "apache2-mpm-worker"
[17:18] <SlimeyPete> alien__: hmm. You could try "apt-get remove apache2-mpm-worker" first. It will tell you what it wants to remove. Check that it isn't trying to remove something which you want.
[17:21] <Alex135> I cant get limewire working, i had installed something realted to java before and now i cant get it working right... can someone help me?
[17:22] <SlimeyPete> try "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre"
[17:22] <Alex135> already installed
[17:22] <Freddy2> hello
[17:22] <SlimeyPete> hi.
[17:22] <Alex135> Firefox intalled something that started with a G... i dont remember the name
[17:23] <Freddy2> does desktop version include smp support? (useful for multi core cpus)
[17:23] <alien__> SlimeyPete: i install the mod and http://127.0.0.1/ work but when i clink on test.php script it just give me to download test.php
[17:23] <SlimeyPete> alien__: yeah sounds like execcgi option is not set
[17:24] <alien__> how to set it ? :S
[17:24] <SlimeyPete> alien__: look in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf or in the /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ scripts
[17:24] <Alex135> whats the name of the plugin that firefox likes to install when it wants java?
[17:24] <SlimeyPete> look for your directory (the one you are putting the file in eg /var/www)
[17:25] <Alex135> there are a few of them i know...
[17:25] <SlimeyPete> there should be a "<Directory /var/www>" bit. Put "Options +ExecCGI" in that bit.
[17:25] <SlimeyPete> then do "sudo apache2ctl restart"
[17:27] <JavaBeans> Alright, heading out for a while
 there should be a "<Directory /var/www>" bit. Put "Options +ExecCGI" in that bit.
[17:27] <JavaBeans> Take it easy all
[17:27] <alien__> how you mean "Put option +EXECGI
[17:27] <werner> alien: in the httpd.conf (or whatever ...)
[17:27] <SlimeyPete> write "Option +ExecCGI" between the "<directory /var/www>" and "</directory>"
[17:30] <alien__> sorry i dont undrestnad what you mean :S
[17:30] <alien__> how to put, and where
[17:31] <sourcemaker> I try to use kvpn to login into a windows vpn network. The login is ok... but I do not receive any DNS?
[17:34] <SlimeyPete> alien__: look for <directory /var/www> in apache2.conf or in sites-enabled.
[17:35] <werner> alien__: open your apache configuration file and search for <directory /var/www>
[17:35] <SlimeyPete> alien__: you can use "kdesudo kate /etc/apache2/apache2.conf" to open the file.
[17:35] <werner> alien__: after that line write "Option +ExecCGI"
[17:36] <werner> or rt(f)m
[17:37] <ThomasD> !sound
[17:37] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[17:39] <alien__> Slimey, after which line i put Option +ExecCG
[17:39] <alien__> i opet site-enable and found
[17:39] <alien__> line var/www
[17:39] <Alex135> nvm i found what i needed... IcedTea was screwing up my system
[17:40] <SlimeyPete> alien__: after <directory /var/www/> and before </directory>
[17:42] <mefisto__> is k3b supposed to be able to rip movies from a dvd? the function in the tools menu doesn't seem to do anything
[17:43] <waylandbill> sda1 how do I tell that to grub?
[17:43] <sigma_1234> !info k9copy
[17:43] <ubotu> k9copy (source: k9copy): DVD backup tool for KDE. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.3-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 1409 kB, installed size 2748 kB
[17:44] <mefisto__> sigma_1234: I was just wondering about that k3b function in tools menu. Is it currently broken?
[17:45] <SlimeyPete> waylandbill: eh? what do you mean?
[17:45] <sigma_1234> why does kubuntu not use lilo as a boot loader. i find it looks alot better graphically?
[17:45] <SlimeyPete> if you want to change boot options, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[17:45] <alien__> i put that
[17:45] <sigma_1234> it probably just doesnt work
[17:45] <alien__> but when i opet test.php its just give me to download test.php
[17:45] <SlimeyPete> alien__: and you did "sudo apache2ctl restart"?
[17:46] <waylandbill> linux occupies all of hda, added an sata drive and want to tell grub that windows is on the sata.
[17:46] <werner> alien__: have you enabled php in apache.conf?
[17:46] <alien__> no
[17:46] <alien__> :S
[17:46] <SlimeyPete> werner: package should've done that automatically,surely
[17:46] <alien__> where i must enable ? :S
[17:46] <werner> AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
[17:46] <SlimeyPete> alien__: did you do the restart? if not, you need to. sudo apache2ctl restart.
[17:47] <werner> SlimeyPete: ah, ok, here not :-) (debian)
[17:47] <alien__> Syntax error on line 6 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default:
[17:47] <alien__> Invalid command 'Option', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration
[17:47] <alien__> damir@damir:~$
[17:47] <sigma_1234> !lilo
[17:47] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li]nux Boot[Lo]ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[17:48] <sigma_1234> !info lilo
[17:48] <ubotu> lilo (source: lilo): LInux LOader - The Classic OS loader can load Linux and others. In component main, is optional. Version 1:22.8-3ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 355 kB, installed size 1132 kB
[17:48] <SlimeyPete> alien__: "Options"
[17:48] <SlimeyPete> alien__: not "Option"
[17:49] <waylandbill> I just dont know how the sata differs from the ide when I write the config to do the chainload
[17:49] <alien__> okey, i was read this
[17:49] <alien__> :)
 alien__: after that line write "Option +ExecCGI"
[17:49] <SlimeyPete> qah
[17:49] <SlimeyPete> ah
[17:49] <SlimeyPete> well, it's "Options" :)
[17:49] <werner> my falut, sorry
[17:50] <alien__> i restart
[17:50] <alien__> but its the same :(
[17:51] <werner> SlimeyPete: maybe he should check out AddType application/x-httpd-php .php ??
[17:51] <alien__> okey
[17:51] <sourcemaker> damm... I can use vpn in linux.. what's wrong... I try to connect with a windows vpn server but it does not work
[17:51] <alien__> now it works
[17:51] <alien__> :)
[17:51] <SlimeyPete> werner: yes, probably.
[17:51] <sourcemaker> The connection is established.. but the route does not work... I can ping the server I require twice... then the route is wrong... no ping
[17:51] <alien__> thanks for help
[17:52] <SlimeyPete> alien__: :)
[17:52] <werner> have a nice day
[17:54] <chupie> i have kubuntu installed on my laptop and i want to use the monitor out port.. how would i go about using that?
[17:55] <acee1234> can anyone tell me how to keep my computer from freezing when i try to restart x or even log out using ati x1400 with restricted drivers
[17:57] <acee1234> i guess this room is dead
[18:02] <RoboCop> Configuration failed. The following error occured:
[18:02] <RoboCop> Could not detect sqlite3! Please specify the path to the directory containing sqlite3.h via the command line option --sqlite3-includes="/path/to/file"
[18:03] <RoboCop> help?
[18:03] <mephist> where am i ?
[18:03] <mephist> so...any body here?
[18:04] <mephist> Haaaa
[18:04] <mephist> see u ...^^~
[18:04] <mephist> 有人嗎
[18:08] <ScorpKing> RoboCop: what are you trying?
[18:09] <RoboCop> ScorpKing INSTAL and ircd. inspircd
[18:11] <ScorpKing> RoboCop: sorry, i don't understand. are you trying to install mysql?
[18:12] <RoboCop> ScorpKing no. i just got the msg i pasted
[18:13] <ScorpKing> RoboCop: look through the forums on http://www.inspircd.org/forum/
[18:13] <RoboCop> k
[18:14] <iamanidiot> ok i need help
[18:15] <ScorpKing> !ask | iamanidiot
[18:15] <ubotu> iamanidiot: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[18:15] <iamanidiot> i have weird sound drivers and need to compile them but i have no idea how to
[18:15] <iamanidiot> i have been told to read the install file but it makes no sense
[18:16] <ScorpKing> iamanidiot: open konsole and go to the directory where the source is then type ./configure
[18:17] <mefisto__> iamanidiot: but why do you want "weird sound drivers"?
[18:17] <iamanidiot> oh like it isnt supported natively by KDE
[18:17] <ScorpKing> !hardware
[18:17] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[18:18] <ScorpKing> iamanidiot: see if it's listed there ^
[18:18] <henk> hi all, I just installed Kubuntu Gutsy on this system and I have a strange problem with printing... cups' error log tells me lp0 give a permission denied and syslog gives me some strange inode permission error? does this ring any bells?
[18:18] <ScorpKing> !sound > iamanidiot
[18:18] <iamanidiot> ok i got the configure command
[18:18] <iamanidiot> now what
[18:18] <iamanidiot> make
[18:18] <iamanidiot> make install
[18:18] <iamanidiot> ?
[18:18] <ScorpKing> iamanidiot: yes - make
[18:19] <iamanidiot> then?
[18:19] <henk> strange thing is, printing a test page while setting up the printer worked like normal...
[18:19] <RoboCop> ScorpKing . i have located it. but in the app setup. it says .bash: --sqlite3-includes=/usr/include/sqlite3.h: No such file or directory
[18:20] <ScorpKing> RoboCop: doesn't it need a sql database?
[18:20] <RoboCop> ScorpKing dont know
[18:20] <iamanidiot> do i do make install next?
[18:20] <ScorpKing> iamanidiot: sudo make install
[18:20] <iamanidiot> ok
[18:23] <iamanidiot> ok now it says to edit my /etc/modules.conf or conf.modules
[18:23] <henk> hm... doing a chmod o+rw /dev/lp0 solved my problem... but i don't think that's a smart thing to do?
[18:24] <iamanidiot> ScorpKing: what do i do next?
[18:24] <ScorpKing> henk: no. what do ls -l /dev/lp0 say?
[18:25] <ScorpKing> iamanidiot: the module should be installed now. read that sound link ubotu gave you
[18:26] <iamanidiot> ScorpKing: it still says i have more to do in the readme
[18:26] <ScorpKing> !paste | iamanidiot
[18:26] <ubotu> iamanidiot: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[18:26] <ScorpKing> iamanidiot: pastebin it please
[18:26] <ScorpKing> the readme ;)
[18:27] <iamanidiot> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55500/
[18:28] <ScorpKing> iamanidiot: what does ./snddevices do?
[18:29] <iamanidiot> is that a rehtorical ?
[18:29] <iamanidiot> ok i did that command
[18:29] <ScorpKing> iamanidiot: that must be a file in the source directory
[18:29] <iamanidiot> i dont understand step 4
[18:29] <ScorpKing> ah
[18:29] <ScorpKing> iamanidiot: kdesudo kate /etc/modules
[18:30] <iamanidiot> refused by server
[18:30] <iamanidiot> no protocol specified
[18:31] <iamanidiot> cannot connect to X server
[18:31] <ScorpKing> ugh..
[18:31] <ScorpKing> some of that is normal
[18:32] <ScorpKing> iamanidiot: you logged in as root?
[18:32] <iamanidiot> yes
[18:32] <ScorpKing> ah. that's the problem
[18:32] <iamanidiot> ?
[18:32] <ScorpKing> exit and try as normal user
[18:32] <iamanidiot> how do i exit
[18:32] <iamanidiot> just close konsole?
[18:32] <ScorpKing> type exit
[18:32] <ScorpKing> yes
[18:32] <iamanidiot> ok
[18:32] <iamanidiot> im in as myself
[18:33] <ScorpKing> iamanidiot: kdesudo kate /etc/modules
[18:33] <iamanidiot> ikm in
[18:33] <iamanidiot> i am in*
[18:33] <ScorpKing> what card do you have?
[18:34] <iamanidiot> realtek
[18:34] <ScorpKing> ok. now you can do step 4
[18:35] <iamanidiot> and that would be?
[18:35] <ScorpKing> from line 73 on that pastebin
[18:36] <iamanidiot> and then save it?
[18:36] <ScorpKing> yes
[18:36] <iamanidiot> k
[18:36] <iamanidiot> and then it says to compile the library and utilitie
[18:37] <iamanidiot> s
[18:37] <ScorpKing> iamanidiot: it sais reboot and the follow the rest of the steps
[18:37] <iamanidiot> ok
[18:49] <ScorpKing> iamanidiot: any news?
[18:50] <ubuntu__> yo
[18:50] <BluesKaj> yo yo
[18:50] <ubuntu__> whats up, dawg?
[18:50] <ScorpKing> hehe. hiya BluesKaj
[18:50] <BluesKaj> no dawgs or yoyos here
[18:51] <BluesKaj> hey ScorpKing
[18:51] <ubuntu__> is coolio a dawg?
[18:52] <BluesKaj> uhmm, ubuntu__, do you have a relavent kubuntu question ?
[18:53] <intelikey> guess not
[18:54] <BluesKaj> good, I can't stand that IM ghettospeak
[18:54] <theTheme> I'm having a problem running EAC under wine.  I've set up the profiles that I want to use, but whenever I try to load those profiles I get an "unhandled exception" error.  Has anyone had this problem?  I've read a lot of things that say that EAC runs flawlessly in wine
[18:55] <intelikey> BluesKaj i resemble that remark :)
[18:55] <BluesKaj> for those of us unfamiliar with EAC, pls tell us what it is
[18:55] <BluesKaj> intelikey, resemble ?  :)
[18:56] <intelikey> yeah
[18:56] <theTheme> Sorry, Exact Audio Copy
[18:57] <intelikey> doing something that linux can't natively do theTheme ?
[18:58] <BluesKaj> theTheme, whynot use cdrecord
[18:58]  * intelikey realizes that there are some things.  but can't imagine useing wine for audio
[18:59] <theTheme> I'm just familiar with EAC from windows, setting up profiles for secure copies and such.  I'd be willing to learn new software if somone could point me to a good guide, and I can get an exact FLAC copy
[18:59] <WaltzingAlong> !compiz > rkyve
[19:00] <intelikey> !flac
[19:00] <BluesKaj> intelikey, me either , why not just boot into windows if he loves the app so much
[19:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[19:00] <BluesKaj> !cdrecord
[19:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdrecord - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:01] <BluesKaj> !info cdrecord
[19:01] <ubotu> cdrecord (source: cdrtools): command line CD writing tool. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10:2.01.01a33-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 539 kB, installed size 1224 kB
[19:01] <toothpick> I need flash with opera for my daughters webkinz...I can't have my wife having another reason to complain about linux.
[19:02] <lauren> so i installed kde4 on my ubuntu install... but kde (even without compiz) moves pretty slowly.... anyone have any suggestions?
[19:02] <BluesKaj> toothpick, why not use Firefox ?
[19:02] <intelikey> toothpick both flash and opera are closed source
[19:02] <toothpick> I'll try firefox
[19:03] <theTheme> Well, thanks guys
[19:03] <intelikey> or should i say neither flash nor opera are free
[19:03] <theTheme> I'll look into CDrecord
[19:04] <toothpick> Last little thing I'm running into when I mount a cd I get an error about not being able to save a bookmark in my home path .kde
[19:04] <ScorpKing> when using superkaramba X hangs (using 1.45GB RAM, 99% CPU) when the screensaver (slideshow) runs for a while and i come back to the box after about 30 minutes. is there a way to fix this or should i just not use superkaramba?
[19:05] <intelikey> toothpick force your wife to read the M$ EULA :)
[19:05] <toothpick> intelikey: what alternative to picasa do you recommend for open source?
[19:05] <BluesKaj> toothpick, also, install the flashplugin-nonfree
[19:05] <WaltzingAlong> digikam
[19:06]  * ScorpKing loves digikam..
[19:06] <intelikey> toothpick and the error probably means you ran something with sudo rather than kdesu     solution # sudo chown $USER -R $HOME/.kde
[19:08] <toothpick> ok thanks
[19:08] <toothpick> probably true, cause I didn't even know there was a kdesu
[19:08] <toothpick> just was using sudo su
[19:08] <intelikey> !kdesu
[19:08] <ubotu> In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[19:08] <intelikey> !sudo
[19:08] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[19:10] <Negatratoron> Hi-hi, and I have a question about /boot/grub/device.map...
[19:11] <Negatratoron> In grub.conf, there exists the line:
[19:11] <Negatratoron> root (hd3,0)
[19:11] <BluesKaj> !enter
[19:11] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[19:11] <Negatratoron> Okay
[19:12] <intelikey> grub.conf ?   what distro ?
[19:12] <Negatratoron> Did I say grub.conf
[19:12] <Negatratoron> I meant menu.lst
[19:12] <Negatratoron> sorry
[19:13] <BluesKaj> BBL ...stuff to do
[19:14] <jussi01> Negatratoron: whats the question?
[19:14] <Negatratoron> I'm trying to figure out how to phrase this all in one line :)
[19:14] <intelikey> what is the question ?       i was thinking that  why  might be the question...
[19:15] <ScorpKing> how do i send mail from bash? i get "/var/log/exim4/mainlog:2008-02-10 21:12:33 1JOHbN-0004RJ-99 ** me@someserver.com R=nonlocal: Mailing to remote domains not supported". am i supposed to add smtp login info somewhere?
[19:15] <Negatratoron> When I boot, grub gives an error 17.  I can solve this by changing the "root (hd3,0)" to "root (hd0,0)".
[19:15] <Negatratoron> The question is as follows:
[19:15] <Negatratoron> Modifying device.map has no effect on anything.  Why?
[19:16] <intelikey> only read when updating the MBR ?
[19:16] <intelikey> for three houndred please
[19:16] <Negatratoron> What?
[19:17] <kubuntu__> can someone plz help me?
[19:17] <sub[t]rnl> hd0,0 is the grub equivalent of your hard drives first partition ex. sda1.  grubs hd0,1 would be sda2, et cetra. define the correct place in the menu.lst
[19:17] <intelikey> sorry. bad joke.     answer is the same though.   /boot/grub/device.map is only read when updating the MBR   i think.
[19:18] <vhozard> i have xawtv and i want a config file ~./xawtv to make resolution 720x576, howto?
[19:18] <sub[t]rnl> !ask | kubuntu_
[19:18] <ubotu> kubuntu_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[19:18] <vhozard> ok
[19:18] <vhozard> so: i have xawtv and i want a config file ~./xawtv to make resolution 720x576, howto?
[19:19] <Negatratoron> Does anyone know of some way to force device.map to be read?
[19:19] <intelikey> Negatratoron grub-install
[19:19] <vhozard> anyone: i have xawtv and i want a config file ~./xawtv to make resolution 720x576, howto?
[19:19] <Negatratoron> Okay, thank you
[19:20] <jussi01> !repeat | vhozard
[19:20] <ubotu> vhozard: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[19:20] <vhozard> ok
[19:21] <intelikey> Negatratoron also of note.  the nomynclature of grub is wIErD </shivers>  if you have two ide drives on seperate cables /dev/hda and /dev/hdc  they are still (hd0)  and  (hd1)  to grub.
[19:22] <Negatratoron> I don't actually have any IDE drives, but thank you anyway
[19:22] <vhozard> i have xawtv and i want a config file ~./xawtv to make resolution 720x576, howto?
[19:22] <intelikey> Negatratoron same for *ata
[19:23] <nacho_> hello any people speak spanish
[19:24] <Lynoure> !es
[19:24] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[19:24] <intelikey> vhozard i know that your question is the most important thing in the world.  but you are repeting it a little bit oftener than needs be.   have you tried to read the xawtv docs ?
[19:25] <intelikey> vhozard maybe search for "xawtv runtime configuration" even.     if i had ever played with xawtv maybe i could help, but i haven't.
[19:27] <teo_> can some one tell me how to install php with gd library ??
[19:27] <vhozard> i searched, but i cant find
[19:28] <vhozard> and, yes, intelikey you are right i must calm down
[19:28] <fdoving> teo_: first install php the normal way, then install the package php5-gd
[19:28] <intelikey> !info php5-gd | teo_ this ?
[19:28] <ubotu> teo_ this ?: php5-gd (source: php5): GD module for php5. In component main, is optional. Version 5.2.3-1ubuntu6.3 (gutsy), package size 32 kB, installed size 164 kB
[19:29] <teo_> thnx..
[19:29] <vhozard> maybe, with screenshot someone van help: http://vhozard.googlepages.com/xawtv.jpg
[19:32] <vhozard> anyone who can help me with xawtv???
[19:32] <vitok> Hallo Leute! Kann mir vielleicht jemand einen Tip bei der Grundeinstellung des BIOS geben?
[19:32] <vhozard> vitok, plz speak english
[19:33] <vitok> Oh, i`m Sorry.
[19:33] <gregor_> or #kubuntu-de
[19:33] <vhozard> yes
[19:33] <jussi01> !de | vitok
[19:33] <ubotu> vitok: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[19:34] <jussi01> vhozard: pastebin the config file - cant garantee I can help, but Ill take a look
[19:34] <JohnFlux> is it possible to do an apt-get dist-upgrade    without it downloading _all_ the packages first?
[19:34] <JohnFlux> so that it installs the packages as it goes along
[19:35] <jussi01> JohnFlux: no, not that I know of
[19:35] <intelikey> vhozard http://tldp.org  and type in a search for xawtv  ?
[19:35] <vhozard> jussi, thats the problem i dont know the config file (it doesnt come with installing via apt-get)
[19:36] <intelikey> vhozard also usefull     dpkg -L xawtv | less   to list all files from the xawtv package
[19:37] <vhozard> ill try
[19:37] <chefjr> hallo ...
[19:37] <intelikey> vhozard sometimes that will show things in /etc that you may have over looked.   also any docs that come with it.   /usr/share/doc/*
[19:38] <vhozard> i'll searcg
[19:38] <vhozard> search
[19:41] <vhozard> intelikey i cant find
[19:42] <intelikey> sorry.  that's all i can do for you on that one.
[19:42] <thechris> flash amd64
[19:42] <vhozard> ok, thanks anyway
[19:42] <thechris> the script on the forums did not work
[19:47] <RoboCop> Could not detect openssl! Please specify the path to the directory containing openssl/ssl.h via the command line option --openssl-includes="/path/to/file"
[19:48] <intelikey> RoboCop trying to compile something ?
[19:48] <RoboCop> intelikey ya
[19:49] <usuario> test
[19:49] <RoboCop> intelikey inspircd.
[19:50] <LamerMan> how can i kill a tcp connection from console?
[19:50] <intelikey> hmmm i'm not seeing an openssl-dev package...
[19:50] <intelikey> LamerMan ifconfig <interface> down
[19:50] <intelikey> LamerMan kill the process that opened it ?
[19:50] <LamerMan> one tcp connection, not the whole interface
[19:51] <LamerMan> :)
[19:51] <intelikey> heh. well you have to be specific, or you'll get what you ask for    :)))
[19:51] <LamerMan> intelikey, just killing connection without killing processes or the whole network
[19:52] <intelikey> LamerMan normally there is a process "holding the door open"   find and kill it.
[19:52] <LamerMan> intelikey, i need it to debug that process :)
[19:52] <sub[t]rnl> or use netstat
[19:53] <sub[t]rnl> tcpkill too :>
[19:54] <sub[t]rnl> sudo tcpkill host x.x.x.x
[19:54] <intelikey> hmmm tcpkill  i don't have that, wonder what package it comes in ?
[19:54] <LamerMan> sub[t]rnl thanks, i've been just recommended this program on another channel, i'll try it
[19:55] <sub[t]rnl> intelikey➜ apt-file tells me dsniff
[19:55] <intelikey> k
[19:56] <fdoving> dsniff got a bunch of usefull stuff.
[19:57] <sub[t]rnl> not a bunch, ettercap can do the majority of the entire dsniff package
[19:57] <sub[t]rnl> but yeah, tcpkill is nice
[19:57] <Nutubuntu> I've built a new box with new disks and want to transfer my /home/directory ... there was a handy tar cmd sequence that allowed piping tar from one mountpoint through untar into another, transferring the files and permissions structure along with the files themselves, but I can't remember it or (so far) figure it out from man tar ... I'm a n00b to tar.
[19:58] <intelikey> i dont think i'll install dsniff right now.    "dmidecode dsniff laptop-detect libdb4.2 libice6 libnet1 libnids1.20 libpcap0.8 libsm6 libssl0.9.7 libx11-6 libxau6 libxext6 libxmu6 libxt6 x11-common"
[19:58] <intelikey> too many deps.
[19:59] <sub[t]rnl> what was the total install size it gave?
[19:59] <RoboCop>  i need ssl.h     which package might be having it?
[19:59] <RoboCop> sub[t]rnl
[20:00] <sub[t]rnl> !find openssl
[20:00] <ubotu> Found: libcurl4-openssl-dev, pyopenssl-doc, python-pyopenssl, python-pyopenssl-dbg, aolserver4-nsopenssl (and 11 others)
[20:00] <intelikey> Nutubuntu    tar -cf - "$1" | tar -xf - -C "$2"
[20:00] <ubuntu> >server irc<iiens<net
[20:02] <Nutubuntu> intelikey: thanks!
[20:05] <shazow> hiya, I just did a fresh install of the latest kubuntu hardy, and kdm loads fine, but when i log in, at "initializing system services", it fails with the error "Could not start ksmserver"
[20:06] <nosrednaekim> shazow: #ubuntu+1
[20:06] <sn00zer> hello all, is there a way to find out why amarok is taking 92% of my cpu whenever the track changes?
[20:06] <shazow> k
[20:06] <nosrednaekim> shazow: if they can't help you there, file a bug
[20:06] <shazow> nosrednaekim: thanks
[20:07] <shazow> very convenient that the ubuntuforums decided to be taken down today :P
[20:07] <nosrednaekim> shazow: there is always the kubuntuforums
[20:07] <shazow> not as much luck there
[20:08] <andreas__> hi there. is there a project that offers "respins" of kubuntu? i don't want to download 700mb only to find out i have to download another 500mb for the same packages..
[20:08] <nosrednaekim> andreas__: what do you mean, respics
[20:09] <nosrednaekim> *respins
[20:09] <andreas__> respins
[20:09] <nosrednaekim> remastersys might be able to do it.
[20:09] <nosrednaekim> andreas__: ooo I get cha...
[20:09] <andreas__> http://fedoraunity.org/re-spins
[20:09] <andreas__> like these
[20:10] <andreas__> remastersys, let me have a look
[20:12] <andreas__> seems like i would have to have a working copy of mint...
[20:12] <nosrednaekim> oh.....
[20:13] <andreas__> i first thought of jidgo, but i didn't found a jigdo template newer than the official release..
[20:13] <intelikey> Krap. to install festival, i have to install both perl and python   ;/
[20:14] <intelikey> so i guess i just won't install it.      but i may hack it....
[20:14] <andreas__> what do you have against perl and python
[20:14] <intelikey> bloat
[20:15] <biovore> scripting languages..
[20:15] <biovore> there all bloat
[20:15] <andreas__> ah yes. it will take another 50mb of your 500gb disk
[20:15] <NickPresta> andreas__, intelikey runs a fairly minimalistic system, if I recall correctly :)
[20:15] <intelikey> andreas__ 57.5MB of my 4g disk.
[20:16] <andreas__> ever considered slackware ;)
[20:16] <intelikey> yep have 5.0 non-release release on cd
[20:16] <fdoving> dsl is nice.
[20:16] <intelikey> have dsl too
[20:16] <andreas__> ah 5.0 was a good one
[20:16] <andreas__> the best 1995 has to offer, as i always say
[20:17] <intelikey> :)
[20:17] <fdoving> how is 12? i've downloaded the dvd, not had time to test yet.
[20:17] <andreas__> solid
[20:18] <intelikey> andreas__ but i'm not gonna be downloading dvd's over dialup.   one cd was bad enough.
[20:19] <andreas__> slackware offers cds. you can get  a complete system (without kde) with the first cd
[20:19] <intelikey> and a 57m dl is six days of bandnarrowness     that's part of what i have against perl & python
[20:20] <intelikey> well that was exagerated just a little.  but you get the point.
[20:20] <andreas__> really doesn't matter thouth. give 12.1 a try when it comes out
[20:21] <intelikey> i dont even have bash installed    "more bloat"  :)
[20:22] <sub[t]rnl> sheesh
[20:22] <sub[t]rnl> what are you running on, an etch-a-sketch?
[20:22] <sub[t]rnl> :>
[20:23] <intelikey> chalk board
[20:23] <intelikey> :)
[20:23] <biovore> intelikey's computer has switches on the front for direct binary input :-P
[20:23] <sub[t]rnl> muaha
[20:24] <andreas__> hmm, 4gb hard drive.. i'd say a p2 and 64 match that
[20:24] <andreas__> 64mb ram
[20:26] <intelikey> Kernel: Linux 2.6.15-Area51-586 | Distro: Debian/GNU Ubuntu | CPU: P1MMX processor @ 100 Mhz | Mem usage: 8.1/123.5 MB (7%) | Swap usage: unavailable | Disk usage(/dev/root): 2.7/4.2 GB (64%) | Uptime: 4 days 23 mins 55 secs
[20:27] <biovore> hmm.. My gumstix has more horse power then intelikey's PC
[20:27] <biovore> :-P
[20:27] <intelikey> :)
[20:28] <darkalien> hello witch packet must i install that i can watch flv? my player is totem
[20:28] <andreas__> cheater; you have upgraded the ram
[20:28] <andreas__> darkalien: xine based players should work
[20:29] <intelikey> andreas__ :)    it did have 32m when i installed.      and yes ubuntu hoary could be installed on 32m ram  but it wan't easy.
[20:29] <andreas__> to be more precise they need to utilize ffmpeg. videolan, mplayer, kaffeine should all work
[20:29] <darkalien> can i watch it with totem ? its my favorite
[20:30] <val0> how do you check what SSL library you have installed?
[20:30] <andreas__> iff there is a xine-backend for totem or a gstreamer-plugin
[20:30] <darkalien> ok mom
[20:30] <andreas__> i really don't know the state of the art for gstreamer
[20:32] <keny> hi
[20:32] <darkalien> flash demuxer plugin faild :(
[20:32] <keny> wie geht's
[20:32] <andreas__>  pkg-config --modversion openssl
[20:33] <darkalien> keny du bist in einem englischem irc
[20:33] <val0> andreas__: thanks
[20:35] <DiceyDays> Does the kubuntu 7.10 alternate cd support install time encryption?
[20:35] <noam_> hi i have a question. as per http://mikearthur.co.uk/2007/12/30/konqueror-with-latest-adobe-flash-howto/ i tried making kmplayer play .swfs with /home/noam/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so, however this doesn't work, kmplayer still tries using mplayer to play those. is ubuntu's kmplayer special regarding configuration?
[20:35] <alien__> SlimeyPete
[20:35] <noam_> i see there are 3 kmplayerrc files...
[20:35] <reepicheep__> #name Francis Drake
[20:37] <intelikey> !away > SirFrancis
[20:38] <SirFrancis> sorry
[20:39] <noam_> christ! this solution does not work in ubuntu because kmplayer doesn't have npp compiled in
[20:39] <noam_> so we're screwed and we'll never have flash in konqueror again *burts out crying*
[20:39] <andreas__> there already is patch
[20:40] <noam_> for nspluginviewer?
[20:40] <andreas__> a patch.
[20:40] <andreas__> actually i'm surprised the kubuntu folks haven't applied it
[20:40] <andreas__> yes. konqueror with the 115 flash plugin
[20:40] <andreas__> afaik suse and fedora have it applied
[20:41] <noam_> in testing, and as far as i understand it sort of semi-working-ish
[20:41] <intelikey> a patch a ?
[20:41] <intelikey> apache ?
[20:41] <jpatrick> andreas__: it's been applied and uploaded
[20:41] <jpatrick> andreas__: days ago
[20:42] <andreas__> well, good for you.
[20:42] <andreas__> and for noam_
[20:43] <noam_> what? so nspluginviewer shouldn't crash on flash when 115 is installed?
[20:43] <andreas__> it should never crash ;)
[20:43] <noam_> in the current condition of kubuntu 7.10, as represented by the state of the repositories, is nspluginviewer crashing?
[20:44] <andreas__> first of all, you should remove all those hacks you have found on random blogs on the internet  :P
[20:44] <intelikey> on a perfect chalk board you would neven hear fingure nails
[20:44] <noam_> :)
[20:45] <noam_> andreas__, and, is there a way to get flash working in konqueror?
[20:45] <ForgeAus> hey intelikey :)
[20:46] <intelikey> ForgeAus shalom
[20:46] <andreas__> there is. just don't ask me how; i don't even run kubuntu at the moment. update your system, remove everything you have done yourself and hope
[20:56] <intelikey> !burp </troll>
[20:57] <aharoon> hi ihave proplem with ktorrent its download speed never increase than 3kb/s the same torrent on windows download at 20-25kb/s in kubuntu i download regular at 25 kb/s
[20:58] <djdarkman> hello, I`ve noticed big difference between the CD version of kubuntu gutsy and the downloaded version, is this real?
[20:58] <djdarkman> or is it just me?
[20:58] <djdarkman> *corretly between the CD and the DVD
[20:59] <intelikey> live CD's are alwasy sluggish
[20:59] <djdarkman> yes but even after install???
[20:59] <intelikey> shouldn't be   no
[20:59] <Toothpick> I seem to lose my internet connection (wireless broadcom) and rebooting is the only thing that brings it back.
[20:59] <intelikey> same version ?
[21:00] <nosrednaekim> Toothpick: are you using ndiswrapper?
[21:00] <djdarkman> yes, but strangely, the CD version installs kubuntu incorrectly
[21:00] <surgy> hey scump
[21:00] <djdarkman> maybe it`s becasuse on the DVD i used the text mode install?
[21:01] <intelikey> that's not so strange.    yes use the textmode    ubuquity leaves much to be desired
[21:02] <nosrednaekim> well, the DVD has more crap on it..
[21:02] <intelikey> lots
[21:02] <aharoon> anyone have idea how to configure ktorrent to speed download?? or at least repair my sittuation
[21:03] <Crashed> Hey guys, I'm running the live Kubuntu disc (I'm a linux newbie). I'm having a problem installing flash player.
[21:04] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: yes, flash installation is broken.
[21:04] <intelikey> !flash
[21:04] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[21:04] <intelikey> nosrednaekim again ?
[21:04] <Crashed> Thanks a lot intelikey.
[21:05] <Crashed> Oh flash is broken? :(
[21:05] <intelikey> it was,  but i thought they fixed it...
[21:05] <Crashed> I get a new computer, it's got no OS, so I pop in Kubuntu so I can *finally* watch youtube videos.
[21:05] <jeisma> anyone know anything about perl?
[21:05] <Crashed> And now you're telling me that I can't!? >:(
[21:06] <nosrednaekim> ooo, maybe they fixed it.
[21:06] <jeisma> Crashed why can't you? you should be able to
[21:06] <Crashed> I don't know how to install it. :)
[21:06] <tim_> !nickserve
[21:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nickserve - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:06] <Crashed> .tar.gz, .rpm, and YUM. Which should I choose?
[21:06] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: go download the adobe deb for it.
[21:06] <Crashed> Ah.
[21:06] <aharoon>  hi ihave proplem with ktorrent its download speed never increase than 3kb/s the same torrent on windows download at 20-25kb/s in kubuntu i download regular at 25 kb/s
[21:06] <tim_> can any one tell me how to retrieve my nickserv password
[21:06] <nosrednaekim> there SHOULD be a .deb for it there
[21:07] <Crashed> There is none on the page.
[21:07] <intelikey> !register > tim_
[21:07] <sub[t]rnl> aharoon➜ are you behind a router?
[21:07] <aharoon> yes
[21:07] <Toothpick> nosrednaekim: don't think so, I'm using the proprietary driver though
[21:07] <Toothpick> so maybe
[21:07] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: then get the tar.gz
[21:08] <sub[t]rnl> aharoon➜ do you have the proper ports forwarded?
[21:08] <Crashed> Alright, I open the tar.gz with Ark
[21:08] <Crashed> Then what do I do?
[21:08] <nosrednaekim> Toothpick: nah... that would be Fw_cutter then...
[21:08] <aharoon> i opened 3 port in router and set them in port , udp tracker port , upnp and nothing changed
[21:08] <Crashed> Inside is a shell script and a .so file.
[21:08] <Crashed> When I try to run the shell script, it just shows me the script.
[21:08] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: untar it into a folder, go to that folder on the command line, and run the shell script
[21:09] <nosrednaekim> run the shell script from the command line with "./shellscriptname"
[21:09] <Crashed> Is there a hotkey in Kubuntu to bring up the desktop?
[21:09] <aharoon>  port , udp tracker port , DHT communication
[21:10] <sub[t]rnl> aharoon➜ in the general tab in ktorrent, enable use DHT to get addition peers.  Set the port and have your router forward that port.  Enable protocol encryption as well, in case your isp is monitoring
[21:10] <Crashed> Ahha. It is working. :)
[21:10] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: hrm, can't think of it off the top of my head, but i'm sure you could set one.
[21:10] <Crashed> On Windows, I'd use the windows key + D.
[21:10] <Crashed> Very convenient.
[21:11] <aharoon> i already did that nothing changed
[21:11] <Crashed> Does Age of Empires run on Kubuntu?
[21:11] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: possibly under WINE
[21:11] <Crashed> I should probably just make this my permanent OS, but I wanna play some games.
[21:11] <sub[t]rnl> aharoon➜ your settings within Download prefrences will also play a factor into your torrent speeds.  Especially maximum connects and maximum upload rate.
[21:11] <Crashed> Hm. What kind of system requirements would you say you'd need for WINE?
[21:11] <intelikey> sub[t]rnl hehhe  that "in case your isp is monitoring" line set off three alarms here   lol
[21:11] <sub[t]rnl> woops :P
[21:12] <Crashed> AMD 3000+, 768MB DDR RAM sound good?
[21:12] <sub[t]rnl> aharoon➜ let me rephrase, in case your isp is monitorring torrent traffic.
[21:12] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: if it can play the original game under windows... it can play it under wine.
[21:12] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: at least on the hardware side...WINE might not have the capability for that game yet
[21:13] <Crashed> Ah, I see.
[21:13] <aharoon> everything is set to 0 i changed ports of port, UDP tracker and fforworded them in router i set number of upload slots to 10 max upload rate to 3
[21:13] <Crashed> Hm, Flash player needs Mozilla.
[21:13] <Toothpick> yes, fwcutter, any ideas?
[21:13] <Crashed> I was using Konqueror.
[21:13] <Crashed> Konquorer
[21:13] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: it says that?
[21:13] <sub[t]rnl> aharoon➜ if everything is set to 0, then you have some problems.  Setting unlimited will hamper your speeds
[21:13] <aharoon> i dont think the proplem with isp i download from windows at 25kb
[21:13] <Crashed> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[21:13] <Crashed> Eh.
[21:14] <Crashed> ERROR: Your home directory does not have a Mozilla, Netscape, or Opera
[21:14] <aharoon> what is the pest setting?
[21:14] <Crashed> browser user directory. Run one of these browsers at least once
[21:14] <Crashed> Kubuntu doesn't come with FireFox preinstalled, does it?
[21:14] <sub[t]rnl> aharoon➜ theres a formula that you can find for the settings, based off your maximum upload/download rates
[21:14] <sub[t]rnl> aharoon➜ are you using dialup?
[21:14] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: run "touch .mozilla"
[21:14] <aharoon> dsl 256
[21:15] <tim_> is there anyway to reset my nickserv password? the intelikey link didnt help
[21:15] <Crashed> Man I love my new PC. I've been running an AMD K6-2 475 MHz, 64MB RAM, 12.5GB HDD, 8MB integrated graphics for the longest time.
[21:15] <sub[t]rnl> aharoon➜ well, thats a horrid download rate then.  if you find a torrent with a good ratio of peers/seeders that is over say 100, then you should be getting at least 200
[21:15] <mefisto__> I'm getting an error in konsole when trying to start konqueror and kaffeine "Inconsistency detected by ld.so" any idea how to fix it?
[21:16] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: yech :)
[21:16] <Crashed> Ran it, it says nothing. And when I try installing Flash I get the same error. I'll just go install FF now.
[21:16] <tim_> !nickserve
[21:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nickserve - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:16] <Crashed> This machine's got an x800XL :)
[21:16] <matt__> i seem to be having minor issues with katapult. It is supposed to use the entries for kmenuedit, correct? That is the only "catalog"  I have selected, but there is a lot of "spam" when I use katapult. I'm thinking that most of the "spam" is automatic entries made by wine or something? I've deleted everthing out of kmenuedit that I don't want, but still nothing.
[21:16] <intelikey> nosrednaekim err ummm if .mozilla is not a dir that will make a regular file which may be in the way of future actions    maybe   rm .mozilla ;mkdir .mozilla -p
[21:16] <Crashed> Scores 4.9 / 5.9 on Vista, not that that matters too much.
[21:16] <aharoon> the same torrent i tried  on my pc but i was in windows os it download at 20-25 kb\s the proplem with setting i guess
[21:16] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: hrm... so true whoops
[21:17] <intelikey> nosrednaekim commands listed there are safe even if the dir exists.
[21:17] <Crashed> Could the fact that I'm running Kubuntu off the Live CD be causing a slower download speed on my torrent?
[21:17] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: run "rm .mozilla"
[21:17] <Crashed> Because there's like 900 seeders, but I'm only hitting 25 KB/s.
[21:17] <aaron_> lol
[21:17] <aaron_> thast shitty
[21:17] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: it could....
[21:17] <Crashed> Nothing nos.
[21:17] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: good...
[21:18] <Crashed> Good? :P
[21:18] <nosrednaekim> install firefox then....
[21:18] <gitrdun^> lol
[21:18] <Crashed> I absolutely dispised FireFox on my K6-2 system. Now I'm gonna love it :D
[21:18] <Crashed> Despised.
[21:18] <Crashed> I can't spell at all today.
[21:18] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: usually, when you run simple commands on the command line, its better if they DON"T tell you anything.
[21:18] <gitrdun^> im on shrrooms i cant see
[21:18] <Crashed> Nos: I'll remember that.
[21:19] <matt__> i seem to be having minor issues with katapult. It is supposed to use the entries for kmenuedit, correct? That is the only "catalog"  I have selected, but there is a lot of "spam" when I use katapult. I'm thinking that most of the "spam" is automatic entries made by wine or something? I've deleted everthing out of kmenuedit that I don't want, but still nothing.
[21:19] <intelikey> Crashed what he's saying is that in linux "no error == no error"
[21:20] <Crashed> Alright, cool.
[21:20] <mefisto__> what does the error "Inconsistency detected by ld.so" mean? any idea how to fix it?
[21:20] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: how are you installing firefox? through apt-get?
[21:20] <DiceyDaysx> Does the kubuntu 7.10 alternate cd support install time encryption?
[21:20] <nosrednaekim> DiceyDaysx: I think so.
[21:20] <Crashed> So do you think $200 for a used AMD 3000+ (s939), 256MB (I think) x800XL, 768MB DDR RAM, 40GB HDD, + TV tuner was a good deal?
[21:20] <DiceyDaysx> nosrednaekim: K. Thanks
[21:21] <Crashed> nos... is that what I should be doing? I always forget about apt-get.
[21:21] <intelikey> mefisto__ doesn't sound good.   what opjest is barking that error ?
[21:21] <Crashed> I just downloaded the FireFox tar.gz off the site.
[21:21] <aharoon> no ides here?
[21:21] <aharoon> *ideas
[21:21] <mefisto__> intelikey: when I try to start konqueror, and kaffeine (so far)
[21:21] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: thats the hard way.... run "apt-get update && apt-get install firefox"
[21:21] <Crashed> Err
[21:22] <Crashed> I ran sudo apt-get install firefox
[21:22] <Crashed> I was getting bitched at for not being root.
[21:22] <intelikey> mefisto__ what did you do   reload without reformating ?
[21:22] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: right... but did you update your package lists first?
[21:22] <Crashed> No :(
[21:22] <mefisto__> intelikey: I don't know what you mean
[21:22] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: "sudo apt-get update"
[21:22] <Crashed> Is installing WINE just as easy as installing FireFox?
[21:23] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: yes
[21:23] <nosrednaekim> if its in the repositories, its just as easy (and WINE is)
[21:23] <Crashed> Oh, awesome then.
[21:23] <Crashed> Should I re-install firefox now that I've updated?
[21:23] <intelikey> mefisto__ the error makes me think that you have libs that don't match the library database cache       it's checking a lib "dot.so file" and saying "wow i shouldn't be geting that info from that file"
[21:23] <noobtube> ok how can i access my /etc/module.conf
[21:23] <noobtube> ?
[21:24] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: oh... it installed it before?
[21:24] <Crashed> Yes it did.
[21:24] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: nah... no need then.
[21:24] <Crashed> This is a fairly recent Kubuntu image.
[21:24] <Crashed> Alright, cool.
[21:24] <nosrednaekim> run firefox... and then run that flash installer again.
[21:24] <Crashed> I just ran firefox, it looked like it was loading for a minute -- it's dissapeared from my task bar now.
[21:24] <intelikey> mefisto__ like maybe you installed another glibc package or something   "probably not glibc but something along that line"
[21:25] <noobtube> can i get some help? how do i get to my /etc/modules.conf?
[21:25] <mefisto__> intelikey: I got this error after installing kdetv. It ran ok the first time, but after closing it, it wouldn't start. then I couldn't start konq or kaffeine
[21:25] <nosrednaekim> noobtube: "kdesudo kate /etc/modules.conf"
[21:25] <noobtube> thank you
[21:25] <Crashed> FireFox is no where to be found.
[21:26] <Crashed> I run it, it loads, it goes away.
[21:26] <Crashed> :(
[21:26] <intelikey> yep library hickup.  mefisto__   run# sudo ldconfig -v     see what it reviels
[21:26] <andreas__> run it from a terminal
[21:26] <andreas__> ther ejust might be a more helpful error message ;)
[21:27] <aharoon> is there any program for torrnet to try it?
[21:27] <aharoon> better than ktorrent
[21:27] <mefisto__> intelikey: what should I be looking for in the output?
[21:27] <val0> so what's the dealio with the kernel exploit? should we worry :D
[21:28] <intelikey> mefisto__ error messages
[21:28] <intelikey> mefisto__ even warnings
[21:29] <intelikey> val0 which exploit ?
[21:29] <Crashed> Oops
[21:30] <Crashed> Changed resolution, and it killed all my applications./
[21:30] <Crashed> Anyway, what's up with Firefox?
[21:30] <val0> intelikey: first article on /. today :D
[21:31] <val0> and it specifically mentions debian/ubuntu
[21:31] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: try running it from the command line, it should give you a decent error message
[21:32] <Crashed> I just type in 'firefox' ?
[21:32] <nosrednaekim> yep
[21:32] <Crashed> No errors.
[21:32] <Crashed> But nothing happens.
[21:32] <nosrednaekim> it goes right back to the command line?
[21:33] <Crashed> Almost instantly, yes.
[21:33] <mefisto__> intelikey: I get a long list like this: libnss_mdns6.so.2 -> libnss_mdns6.so.2 but no warnings or errors
[21:33] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: run "ls | grep .moz"
[21:33] <nosrednaekim> does it return anything?
[21:33] <val0> intelikey: did you find it or do you want me to send you a link?
[21:33] <Crashed> Nothing
[21:33] <tarin> can anyone help me setup gutsy as a webserver
[21:34] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: odd, you know, sometimes things behave wierdly off the liveCD... why aren't you installing?
[21:34] <nosrednaekim> !webserver
[21:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about webserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:34] <Crashed> I was going to install windows. :/
[21:34] <nosrednaekim> !LAMP | tarin
[21:34] <ubotu> tarin: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[21:34] <Crashed> Please don't hurt me for saying that :P
[21:34] <intelikey> mefisto__ are you still unable to open konqueror ?
[21:34] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: I won't... I have windows on here, I use it for Garmin navigation.
[21:34] <Crashed> Hell, I should just install this and play around with linux.
[21:35] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: install XP first.
[21:35] <Crashed> Well, don't hurt me for this either, but I'm downloading XP.
[21:35] <nosrednaekim> !warez
[21:35] <ubotu> piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[21:35] <Crashed> Yeah I know :(
[21:35] <Crashed> Ive been using such an ancient PC for so long that I haven't been able to even run XP.
[21:35] <andreas__> (vista is better anyway)
[21:35] <Crashed> I need to pick up a copy sometime.
[21:35] <intelikey> val0 looks like if you have the infected kernel,  then yes.   there should be a patch in the repos very soon
[21:35] <nosrednaekim> lol
[21:35] <andreas__> :D
[21:36] <mefisto__> intelikey: same error: Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/i386/dl-machine.h: 550: elf_machine_rel_relative: Assertion `((reloc->r_info) & 0xff) == 8' failed!
[21:36] <Crashed> I don't want to install 98SE :]
[21:36] <val0> intelikey: the new ver of firefox has an issue too :( and adobe 2008 as well... great weekend! i don't wont to go to work tomorrow
[21:36] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: then install Kubuntu.
[21:36] <Crashed> That I am doing right now.
[21:37] <intelikey> val0 heh.  yeah.
[21:37] <Crashed> Alright, it's asking me what kind of partition I want for Kubuntu.
[21:37] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: what do you use your computer for? games? or mostly surfing and such.
[21:37] <Crashed> Which option is the use-all option?
[21:37] <intelikey> val0 that's yet another bid for using the LTS or debian stable.
[21:37] <Crashed> Well, it *used* to be mostly surfing. But now that I can play games, I definately want to catch up.
[21:38] <Crashed> Stopp playing games since 2000. I really need to catch up :)
[21:38] <Crashed> I stopped*
[21:38] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: well, there are plenty of free games for Linux, if you don't already have some bought
[21:38] <intelikey> mefisto__ is that a 64 bit install ?
[21:38] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: you mean for partitioning?
[21:38] <Crashed> Yes
[21:38] <Crashed> I want it to use my entire HDD, but I can't really understand.
[21:38] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: "guided - use entire disk"
[21:38] <mefisto__> intelikey: no
[21:38] <intelikey> k
[21:38] <Crashed> I don't see that option.
[21:39] <nosrednaekim> what options do you see?
[21:39] <Crashed> 'Erase entire disk' - I got that one.
[21:39] <val0> intelikey: as opposed to? (asking because i really don't know :D)
[21:39] <Crashed> Resize master, partition #1
[21:39] <Crashed> Use the largest continuous free space
[21:39] <intelikey> mefisto__ well i'm at a loss on that.   time to hit google and the bug reports.
[21:39] <Crashed> And manually edit.
[21:39] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: yeah..."erase entire disk"
[21:39] <intelikey> val0 ubuntu latest
[21:39] <Crashed> Alright, thanks.
[21:39] <intelikey> val0 or debian testing
[21:40] <mefisto__> intelikey: trouble is I don't understand much of what I've found, and no mention of a solution
[21:40] <thiemster> only 38 more members to go in the ubuntu forums for 500,000
[21:40] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: never seen that mix of options before though.... is this the 7.10, gusty (the latest release)?
[21:40] <Crashed> Would I be able to still talk on IRC while installing?
[21:40] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: yes
[21:40] <Crashed> Awesome :D
[21:40] <Crashed> What's the command to check?
[21:40] <intelikey> mefisto__ yeah. i'm not much help there either,  sorry.
[21:40] <val0> intelikey: oh i see, i always thought those were for people who know what they are doing, so i am not going anywhere near those!
[21:40] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: though if you are torrenting... you may not want to wipe the disk, cause thats "hopefully" where you are torrenting to
[21:41] <Crashed> Well, it says it's formatting everything.
[21:41] <intelikey> val0 well ubuntu dapper drake LTS isn't affected by that exploit.  kernel is loder than the window of exploit
[21:41] <Crashed> test
[21:42] <Crashed> Why is my mouse scroll button binded to the clipboard?
[21:42] <intelikey> loder/older
[21:42] <Crashed> That is very odd :P
[21:42] <val0> intelikey: cool, thanks for the info!
[21:42] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: command to check is "lsb_release -a"
[21:42] <intelikey> Crashed middle click.
[21:42] <Crashed> Hopefully WINE works with my favourite application.
[21:43] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: middle click in KDE is paste
[21:43] <Crashed> Hm, this is 6.10, nosrednaekim.
[21:43] <Goliath23> hi. I heard that the newer nvidia drivers fix a problem with kde4 and provide better performance. the newest package I can get in gutsy is driver version 1.00.14 the nvidia homepage provides 169.09 ... is there a better way to install a newer version than taking the one from the nvidia homepage?
[21:43] <intelikey> val0 2.6.17 through 2.6.24.1 only.
[21:43] <Crashed> Ah, that's good to know.
[21:43] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: fairly old....
[21:43] <Crashed> Oh really?
[21:43] <nosrednaekim> over a year
[21:43] <Crashed> Heh
[21:43] <Crashed> Wrote this damn thing on a CD-R.
[21:43] <nosrednaekim> 2 releases old,
[21:44] <Crashed> Saving my only CD-RW for Windows.
[21:44] <intelikey> nosrednaekim and Crashed as long as xorg has existed....   5 years ?
[21:44] <nosrednaekim> but don't worry, it'll work fine.
[21:44] <Crashed> What kind of system resources does Kubuntu use?
[21:44] <intelikey> oh sorry.  i'm out of sync there.
[21:44] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: hrm, didn't know that was a X thing. ^_^
[21:44] <Crashed> I remember it was bad news when I ran it on my K6-2. Took nearly an hour to boot up.
[21:44] <intelikey> nosrednaekim yes it's X not kde.
[21:45] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: should be speedy on that hardware...
[21:45] <Crashed> :]
[21:45] <intelikey> nosrednaekim actualy linux  not X   but i don't know the origen of that
[21:45] <Crashed> I'm thinking of dropping a light HTTP server OS on my K6-2. Turn it into a server.
[21:45] <Crashed> Probably wouldn't even be able to handle a website decently.
[21:45] <intelikey> Crashed apache cherokee ?
[21:46] <intelikey> sure it will.
[21:46] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: oh yeah.... it should...
[21:46] <Crashed> Hm
[21:46] <Crashed> Maybe I should do that then.
[21:46] <Crashed> Does Kubuntu have any free, good software for TV tuners?
[21:46] <intelikey> until they post your url on /.
[21:47]  * intelikey runs cherokee on all his pinguins
[21:47] <Crashed> Kubuntu is so shiny compared to 98SE.
[21:47] <intelikey> i didn't say they were open to the public.
[21:48] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: depends on if the TV tuner is supported.there is Ktv and MythTv
[21:48] <Crashed> Hm
[21:48] <Crashed> http://byond.com/members/Crashed/files/crashedpc.html
[21:48] <intelikey> !tv
[21:48] <ubotu> http://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out
[21:49] <VanDyke> hummm
[21:49] <Crashed> I've got a powerview TV tuner.
[21:49] <VanDyke> can't join #ubuntu
[21:49] <Crashed> Oh jesus, that page looks like garbage. It looked fine in IE. I'm gonna love hating IE now :P
[21:50] <Crashed> And I should probably put 'Time since Crashed's PC arrival'
[21:50] <intelikey> VanDyke banned ?
[21:50] <VanDyke> yea
[21:50] <VanDyke> and the weird thing is
[21:50] <VanDyke> I've never been to that channel before
[21:50] <nosrednaekim> !hardware | Crashed, look for it in this page
[21:50] <ubotu> Crashed, look for it in this page: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[21:51] <intelikey> maybe your nick/ip preceeded you...
[21:51] <VanDyke> really strange
[21:51] <VanDyke> intelikey: are you in that channel?
[21:51] <intelikey> no.
[21:51] <Crashed> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimedia
[21:52] <Crashed> I'm guessing my card isn't supported?
[21:52] <intelikey> VanDyke there is a channel   #ubuntu-ops   for this sort of thing.
[21:52] <VanDyke> I just installed ubuntu 8.04 in my desktop
[21:52] <Crashed> If it doesn't work, I'll have to use XP - definately. :(
[21:52] <intelikey> and a #ubuntu+1 for that sort of thing
[21:53] <VanDyke> intelikey: thx bro
[21:53] <intelikey> Crashed use what ever your concious will let you use.    mine and the EULA just don't jive.
[21:54] <intelikey> VanDyke welcome
[21:54] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: it may have a different chipset, find the exact model with "lspci"
[21:54] <intelikey> or lshw
[21:55] <Crashed> alright, time to restart to finish the installation.
[21:56] <nosrednaekim> c ya!
[21:56] <VanDyke> intelikey: got in :P
[21:57] <nosrednaekim> VanDyke: FYI... the hardy channel is #ubuntu+1
[21:58] <VanDyke> nosrednaekim: thx :)
[22:01] <tzanger> good afternoon
[22:02] <tzanger> just a question about linux-image-ume - any benefit to running it on an intel laptop?
[22:02] <nosrednaekim> ume?
[22:03] <nosrednaekim> never heard of that one
[22:03] <nosrednaekim> !find linux-image-ume
[22:03] <ubotu> Found: linux-image-ume
[22:03] <nosrednaekim> !search linux-image-ume
[22:03] <ubotu> Found:
[22:03] <nosrednaekim> !info linux-image-ume
[22:03] <ubotu> linux-image-ume (source: linux-meta): Linux kernel image on 386 Embedded/Mobile. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.22.14.21 (gutsy), package size 24 kB, installed size 52 kB
[22:03] <nosrednaekim> tzanger: nah... don't use that.
[22:04] <tzanger> nosrednaekim: ok, I'll just get the source for the regular vesion and turn up things like tickless
[22:04] <nosrednaekim> tzanger: k
[22:04] <tzanger> thanks :-)
[22:05] <Crashed> Meh.
[22:05] <Crashed> Yay for installed Kubuntu :)
[22:05] <tzanger> actually I will try to set up the latest release of linux... -rt kills hibernate/suspend on this laptop
[22:05] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: coolo :)
[22:06] <Crashed> Thanks a lot for all the help, nosrednaekim
[22:06] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: now... you want flash?
[22:06] <Crashed> Yeah, I'm working on it right now.
[22:06] <nosrednaekim> yeah... you'll have to re grab firefox.
[22:06] <Crashed> Already got it, and now it even works! :P
[22:06] <nosrednaekim> ah.. one step ahead :)
[22:07] <Crashed> These are some killer slow download speeds.
[22:07] <Crashed> I need to run a bandwidth test.
[22:07] <Crashed> I think my integrated network card is crap on this PC.
[22:07] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: yeah... you'll probably need to switch off of the main Download mirrors.
[22:07] <nosrednaekim> or that could be the problem.
[22:07] <Crashed> It's a 10/100 card.
[22:08] <Crashed> So it *should* be fine.
[22:08] <Crashed> Oh cool.
[22:08] <Crashed> That was really weird. I started off floating at 50 KB/s (flash install file).
[22:08] <Crashed> It went down and floated at 20, but at the very end it was hitting 150 KB/s.
[22:09] <nosrednaekim> <_<
[22:10] <nosrednaekim> well, the mirrors wouldn't affect the flash DL.. that would be  for firefox and other apps
[22:10] <Crashed> Is there a graphical process manager, like Windows's task manager?
[22:11] <Crashed> Hm.
[22:11] <Crashed> One bandwidth test says I was capping at 700 kilobits per second (yeah, kilobits).
[22:11] <Crashed> This one says 3000 kilobits, which is the connection I have.
[22:12] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: ctrl+esc
[22:12] <nosrednaekim> or maybe alt+esc.. I forget
[22:13] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: you ain't getting no sympaty from me...i'm on dial-up
[22:13] <nosrednaekim> ^,^
[22:13] <Crashed> Heh, that must suck.
[22:13] <Crashed> You pay your own bills, and/or you live in the middle of no where?
[22:14] <nosrednaekim> middle of nowhere
[22:14] <Crashed> Yeah, that's the main problem people have.
[22:14] <Crashed> No DSL or cable available in their area.
[22:14] <Crashed> Cable is as cheap as dial-up these days.
[22:15] <Crashed> What kind of game can I run to test out my graphics card's power?
[22:15] <nosrednaekim> well, we do have cable avail.... but it costs like $60 as compared to $12 per month for dial-up
[22:15] <Crashed> Actually, I should install WINE.
[22:15] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: nah... save that.. try some free linux games.
[22:15] <clintc> Crashed: spring-ta will do it
[22:15] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: gl-117 is a sweet combat flight sim
[22:15] <Crashed> spring-ta?
[22:16] <clintc> Crashed: or scroched 3d
[22:16] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: not sure what games were in the edgy repositories
[22:16] <clintc> Crashed: spring-ta = cool real time strategy game
[22:16] <Crashed> It feels so good being able to play flash games now :D
[22:16] <nosrednaekim> !find tremulous (edgy)
[22:16] <ubotu> Found: tremulous, tremulous-data, tremulous-doc, tremulous-server
[22:16] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: heh :)
[22:17] <Crashed> Hey, this also means I can actually run some of my 3D opengl python projects too.
[22:17] <clintc> Crashed: spring-ta gives my nvidia 6800 a pretty good workout
[22:18] <sayucyof> hello
[22:18] <Crashed> the x800XL is supposed to be comparable to the 6800GT
[22:18] <clintc> can anyone suggest a really good dvd burner for working with k3b.. my lite-on just died and I need to replace it
[22:18] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: oh.. thats an ATI? did you install the drivers.....
[22:19] <kompaq> d
[22:19] <Crashed> No
[22:19] <sayucyof> nv :)
[22:20] <Crashed> I should install the drivers shouldn't I.
[22:20] <clintc> Crashed: here is a link for spring-ta: http://spring.clan-sy.com/ .. great game if you like rts
[22:21] <Crashed> Installing it is pretty complicated.
[22:21] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: run "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx"
[22:21] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: its a heck of a lot easier in the latest version :)
[22:22] <Crashed> Latest version of Kubuntu or spring-ta?
[22:22] <Crashed> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglr
[22:22] <Crashed> E: Couldn't find package xorg-driver-fglr
[22:22] <Crashed> That first paste was an accident.
[22:23] <BluesKaj> 60 bucks for cable internet ...that a bit pricey nosrednaekim ...I'm in the boonies to some degree here and I pay 45bucks for so called 7mb speed which works out to 700kbs of course
[22:23] <Crashed> Bell, Blueskaj?
[22:24] <BluesKaj> yup Crashed , sympatico dsl
[22:24] <Crashed> Blueskaj: they're well known for delivering a fraction of what their 'up to' package.
[22:24] <Crashed> 2008 is predicted to be the slowest year in internet latency anyway.
[22:24] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: put a x on the end of that....
[22:24] <BluesKaj> most ISP do the same
[22:24] <Crashed> Yeah.
[22:25] <Crashed> Oh, oops nos.
[22:25] <Crashed> This cheap $5 optical mouse really stinks at accuracy.
[22:25] <nosrednaekim> !find fglrx
[22:25] <ubotu> Found: fglrx-control, xorg-driver-fglrx, xorg-driver-fglrx-dev, fglrx-kernel-source
[22:25] <surgy> is there any way i can record my screen? as in record everything displayed on my screen and then save it as a .mov or soemthing?
[22:25] <oloughlin75> Hello! Is there a way to install ndiswrapper on kubuntu? My realtek 8185L is not working and ndis wont compile when I download it.
[22:25] <BluesKaj> well ,the guy at my ISP support says its quoted in megbits not megabytes
[22:25] <Crashed> Alright, it looks like it finished.
[22:25] <Crashed> I assume I have to restart now.
[22:26] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: not yet
[22:26] <Crashed> Okay... I'll just happily play 'Gangster Life' then :)
[22:26] <nosrednaekim> oloughlin75: yes,you can grab it from the repositories..
[22:26] <oloughlin75> nosrednaekim: When I search for ndis nothing comes up?
[22:26] <BluesKaj> Crashed, you on Rogers ?
[22:26] <Crashed> I am.
[22:26] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: you need to modify your xorg.conf first (hooray for text file editing)
[22:26] <Crashed> Their service is pretty good.
[22:27] <BluesKaj> yeah, my son uses them in windsor
[22:27] <nosrednaekim> oloughlin75: is this a fresh install?
[22:27] <oloughlin75> Yes
[22:27] <nosrednaekim> oloughlin75: run a "sudo apt-get update"
[22:28] <oloughlin75> Ok
[22:28] <clintc> surgy: check here: http://www.freecharity.org.uk/2007/04/12/the-secret-to-screencasting-with-ubuntu-and-free-software/
[22:28] <Crashed> Is it /etc/X11/xorg.conf nosrednaekim?
[22:28] <oloughlin75> I am amazed mys ound works out of the box on the alpa release :)
[22:28] <Crashed> I should probably plugin my speakers.
[22:28] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: oooh, you are good :)
[22:28] <Crashed> ;P
[22:28] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf" to edit it as root.
[22:28] <Crashed> What am I writing/editing?
[22:29] <Crashed> I don't seem to be getting permission errors by using nano.
[22:29] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: you need to change one thing and add three lines
[22:29] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: you will when you try to save it.
[22:29] <Crashed> Good call.
[22:29] <Crashed> I'm getting intense errors.
[22:29] <surgy> whats the command to take a screenshot?
[22:30] <Crashed> kate ran anyway.
[22:30] <nosrednaekim> meh! command line text editor.... you my freind are bona-fide geek already
[22:30] <Crashed> So, what specifically nosrednaekim?
[22:30] <oloughlin75> nosrednaekim: All I see for ndiswrapper is the frontend GUI version?
[22:30] <clintc> surgy: ksnapshot
[22:30] <Crashed> nosrednaekim: shucks, I'm blushing :P
[22:30] <nosrednaekim> oloughlin75: any "ndiswrapper-common"?
[22:30] <oloughlin75> no
[22:30] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: just a moment..
[22:30] <nosrednaekim> oloughlin75: what version are you running? 8.04?
[22:31] <oloughlin75> Yeah
[22:31] <nosrednaekim> oloughlin75: ask in #ubuntu+1 then..I don'tknow why it wouldn't be available
[22:31] <oloughlin75> The frontend is loading I am not sure if it installed it
[22:32] <Crashed> I'm lovin' my new system.
[22:33] <clintc> can anyone suggest a dvd burner they really like?
[22:33] <Crashed> I've got some Benq DVD-+RW CD-=RW
[22:34] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: add the lines referened here to the end fo that file http://www.felipe-alfaro.org/blog/2006/09/06/ubuntu-edgy-ati-fglrx-dri-3d-acceleration-and-xorg-composite-extension/
[22:34] <BluesKaj> Crashed, are you new to Linux or just kubuntu ?
[22:34] <Crashed> I hear they're piles of crap, but I've got it anyway!
[22:34] <Crashed> BluesKaj: both, really.
[22:34] <andreas__> clintc: get the cheapest. it shouldn't matter
[22:34] <Crashed> I've used linux here and there. I do a little SSH sometimes.
[22:34] <Crashed> Debian mostly.
[22:34] <BluesKaj> welcome to the wonderful world of Kubuntu
[22:35] <Crashed> Thanks. You guys are the most helpful people I've ever encountered.
[22:35] <hola> samoeone uses virtualbox?
[22:35] <andreas__> free hugs for everyone!
[22:35] <nosrednaekim> !helpernack
[22:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about helpernack - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:35] <nosrednaekim> !helpersnack
[22:35] <ubotu> Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[22:36] <oloughlin75> What would I use to get my touchpad up and running properly? It doesnt do draging or scrolling?
[22:36] <andreas__> man synaptics
[22:36] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: and you'll also need to change the driver from the current "ati" to "fglrx"
[22:36] <BluesKaj> well we try to help and encourage
[22:36] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: in that file...
[22:36] <Crashed> nosrednaekim: is it only adding those 3 lines?
[22:36] <Crashed> Oh, I see.
[22:37] <nosrednaekim> and changing the driver from ati to fglrx
[22:37] <Crashed> A search for 'driver' did not return anything.
[22:37] <andreas__> oloughlin75: you'll have to edit xorg.conf / configure X11 properly with some tool
[22:38] <Crashed> A search for 'ati' came up with random words with 'ati' in it.
[22:38] <oloughlin75> andreas__: For the touchpad?
[22:38] <andreas__> oloughlin75, yes
[22:38] <oloughlin75> Alright ksynaptics wont work?
[22:39] <andreas__> in standard mode it emulates a simple mouse, but with the synaptics driver you will have all the features
[22:39] <Crashed> nosrednaekim: sorry, but what exactly am I supposed to do?
[22:39] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: its in Section "Device"
[22:39] <Crashed> 	Driver		"vesa"
[22:39] <Crashed> That?
[22:39] <nosrednaekim> yeah.
[22:39] <Crashed> Ah.
[22:39] <nosrednaekim> change vesa to fglrx
[22:39] <andreas__> ksynaptics needs afaik the synaptics driver loaded ( with a option to share some memory )
[22:39] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: sorry, you must have installed in safe-graphics mode
[22:39] <Crashed> Save, close, reboot?
[22:40] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: yeah.... but before you do, some instruction on what to do if X doesn't come up on reboot.
[22:40] <Crashed> Revert the changes using the command line?
[22:40] <BluesKaj> Crashed, which ati graphics do you have ?,, in the terminal : lspci | grep video , if your not sure.
[22:40] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: boot recovery mode, and edit that file, changing the fglrx back to vesa
[22:40] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: precisely
[22:40] <Crashed> Alright.
[22:41] <nosrednaekim> hopefully that shouldn't neccesary though
[22:41] <Crashed> BluesKaj: nothing was returned from that command. But I have an ATI X800XL
[22:41] <oloughlin75> andreas__: How do I get the driver to load?
[22:41] <andreas__> edit xorg.conf
[22:42] <andreas__> Section Input Device
[22:42] <Crashed> Alright, rebooting.
[22:42] <oloughlin75> What do you use to edit it? Kate?
[22:42] <andreas__> i'm almost sure kubuntu has some tool for that, but i don't know of any
[22:42] <andreas__> sorry
[22:43] <nosrednaekim> andreas__: not the version he isusing
[22:43] <hola> samoeone uses virtualbox?
[22:44] <JavaBeans> Hi all
[22:44] <oloughlin75> Hey
[22:44] <JavaBeans> Has the issue of the lost window decorations in OpenOffice been solved yet?
[22:44] <nosrednaekim> hey JavaBeans
[22:44] <nosrednaekim> JavaBeans: with compiz? yes
[22:44] <JavaBeans> Ah!  Perfect
[22:44] <Crashed> That was a quick reboot.
[22:44] <nosrednaekim> JavaBeans: go to #compiz,I forget the exact fix
[22:45] <JavaBeans> Thanks alot guys
[22:45] <JavaBeans> :-D
[22:45] <Crashed> nosrednaekim: looks like there's no problems.
[22:45] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: run "glxinfo"and see if you have to Direct rendering
[22:45] <andreas__> oloughlin75, open xorg.conf , look for a inputdevice section and replace in the line with "Driver" whatever stands there with synaptics. for further information 'man 4 synaptics' could be helpful
[22:45] <andreas__> got to go. seeya
[22:45] <Crashed> A bunch of crap is outputted, but it all looks like opengl
[22:46] <Crashed> Ah, direct rendering: yes :)
[22:46] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: look at the first 5 lines or so
[22:46] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: ok... great, that was relavtively easy :)
[22:46] <oloughlin75> Thanks andreas
[22:46] <Crashed> Woot!
[22:46] <Crashed> nosrednaekim: how about WINE now?
[22:47] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: go ahead :)... but we don't support the actual installation of windows apps here, you have to go to #winehq for that.
[22:47] <nosrednaekim> mostly cause none of us here knows a thing about it :)
[22:47] <Crashed> Hehe
[22:48] <Crashed> How would I install WINE though, apt-get install wine?
[22:48] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: put please try some free linux games first.... bzflag, gl-117, tremulous.... etc
[22:48] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: yup... there is a nice GUI frontend for apt too, called adept_manager
[22:48] <Crashed> I came across adept manager already.
[22:48] <Crashed> It kept throwing itself on my screen.
[22:48] <nosrednaekim> lol
[22:49] <nosrednaekim> that would be adept_updater
[22:49] <Crashed> Ah
[22:49] <Crashed> Well, that install wine command failed.
[22:49] <oloughlin75> where is xorg.conf located?
[22:49] <Crashed> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package
[22:49] <Crashed> locate xorg.conf
[22:50] <Crashed> Unix is like french :)
[22:50] <Crashed> You put the verb at the front.
[22:50] <oloughlin75> woah
[22:50] <oloughlin75> thanks!
[22:50] <sayucyof> oloughlin75$B!!!?(Betc$B!?(BX11$B!?(Bxorg.conf
[22:51] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: lol
[22:51] <nosrednaekim> !info wine (edgy)
[22:51] <ubotu> wine (source: wine): Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB
[22:51] <Crashed> I have to download wine (edgy)?
[22:53] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: no... but yo may need to enable the universe repository
[22:53] <Maxim000> how I can mount .nrg? sudo mount -o loop,offset=307200 /image.nrg /dev/loop0 don't work :(
[22:53] <Crashed> !universe repository
[22:53] <sayucyof> System construction
[22:53] <nosrednaekim> !repositorie
[22:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repositorie - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:53] <nosrednaekim> !repository
[22:53] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[22:53] <Crashed> !how to enable repository
[22:54] <nosrednaekim> read the above ^^
[22:54] <sayucyof> Crashed: i installed wine
[22:54] <sayucyof> System construction
[22:54] <Crashed> System construction?
[22:54] <Maxim000> writes - you must specify the filesystem type. if i specify iso9660 it writes wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0
[22:54] <sayucyof> yes
[22:55] <sayucyof> then advanced
[22:55] <Maxim000> so, how can I mount .nrg?
[22:55] <Crashed> System Construction doesn't seem to be in the System tab
[22:56] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: systemsettings
[22:56] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: and i'm not sure that the wine configurator is available in edgy
[22:57] <Crashed> I don't see system construction :/
[22:57] <Crashed> Oh wait, system construction is system settings?
[22:57] <nosrednaekim> yep ;)
[22:57] <Crashed> Ahha.
[22:57] <Crashed> Tricky.
[22:57] <Crashed> What's after advanced?
[22:57] <sayucyof> oh yes
[22:57] <sayucyof> yes
[22:58] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: there may be a wine configurator there, but it depends on your version, you're might be too old
[22:58] <sayucyof> windows app
[22:58] <Crashed> Nothing here.
[22:58] <niall> does anyone know how to get stage6 working?
[22:58] <Crashed> No wine or windows.
[22:58] <nosrednaekim> don't worry about it.... just read that tutorial on how to enable repositories.
[22:58] <nosrednaekim> niall: gentoo?
[22:58] <niall> ?
[22:59] <nosrednaekim> niall: whats stage6
[22:59] <niall> stage6.com, it's a streaming video site which uses divx
[22:59] <sayucyof> Crashed: r u used kubuntu7.10?
[22:59] <nosrednaekim> !stage6
[22:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stage6 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:59] <niall> I can play divx media, and I can play other videos in embedded konquerer, such as WMV
[22:59] <nosrednaekim> sayucyof: no...6.10
[22:59] <Crashed> 6.10, say
[22:59] <niall> but my plugin isn't setup to support the .dvix MIME type
[22:59] <sayucyof> sorry
[23:00] <sayucyof> i said 7.10
[23:00] <Crashed> I can't just plugin my speakers, right? I gotta reboot first?
[23:01] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: nah....just pop them in
[23:01] <Crashed> I am love linux
[23:01] <Crashed> It makes me speak German
[23:01] <nosrednaekim> :)
[23:02] <sayucyof> speaker? hehehe
[23:03] <Crashed> Yay, sound!
[23:03] <niall> any idea how I could get embedded .divx files to play in my browser then?
[23:03] <sayucyof> What is sound card?
[23:03] <Xbehave> by default aptitude installed recomened packages. is there a way of striping my install down to kubuntu + a list of packages ( just the programs of what ive intalled and deps) ?
[23:04] <Crashed> What's my sound card? Not a clue.
[23:04] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: sayucyof if it works, you dan't ask questions :)
[23:04] <Crashed> Exactly :D
[23:04] <europlant> darren
[23:04] <sayucyof> lol
[23:05] <europlant> czech
[23:05] <Crashed> This repository thing is confusing.
[23:05] <nosrednaekim> !cz
[23:05] <ubotu> České uživatele žádáme, aby mluvili v kanále #ubuntu anglicky. Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Děkujeme.
[23:05] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: how so?
[23:06] <Crashed> I don't know what I'm doing.
[23:06] <Crashed> To install Wine.
[23:06] <oloughlin75> I added "Driver" synaptics and it didnt affect the mouse function at all
[23:06] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: really, all you have to do is edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and get rid of the comments in front of the repositories you want to enable
[23:06] <europlant> http://www.themothmanlives.com/
[23:06] <nosrednaekim> comments ==a # sign
[23:06] <oloughlin75> so i tried running the touchpad thing and it told me to add something, and not x isnt working
[23:07] <Crashed> Which repository should I enable?>
[23:07] <europlant> skype work on kubuntu, please
[23:07] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: universe
[23:07] <oloughlin75> i need to do sudo nano ... to edit in comand line right?
[23:07] <nosrednaekim> oloughlin75: yea
[23:07] <oloughlin75> fun!
[23:07] <Crashed> damn permission denied. ungh.
[23:07] <Crashed> Can't I make 'crashed' root?
[23:07] <europlant> !!!skype work on kubuntu, please?
[23:07] <Crashed> Permanently?
[23:08] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: for non-graphical apps, yes "sudo -i"
[23:08] <Crashed> nosrednaekim: I have enabled that repository. What's next?
[23:08] <nosrednaekim> !skype | europlant
[23:09] <ubotu> europlant: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[23:09] <europlant> thank
[23:09] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: run "sudo apt-get update"
[23:09] <Crashed> yay for installing wine.
[23:09] <Crashed> yay for nosrednaekim
[23:10] <sayucyof> http://wiki.ubuntu-forum.de/index.php/Wine
[23:10] <Crashed> Interestingly enough nosrednaekim and installing wine are the same length!
[23:10] <Crashed> Holy germanese
[23:11] <charles> 132
[23:11] <Crashed> They don't have an english version of that page, sayucyof?
[23:12] <nosrednaekim> !wine
[23:12] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[23:12] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: hehe
[23:12] <sayucyof> l;)
[23:13] <ignoramus> hey all.  got a question about the mplayer plugin for FF... Is there any way to adjust the volume?  All the other controls work, but click on the "volume" icon does nothing.
[23:13] <Crashed> holy crap.
[23:13] <Crashed> Running 'winecfg' just made my speakers scream.
[23:14] <nosrednaekim> heh
[23:15] <oloughlin75> BLAH!
[23:15] <oloughlin75> I like linux, but it is so much harder to get everything working properly
[23:15] <Crashed> oloughlin75: I'm in the same boat.
[23:15] <SlimeyPete> 's all part of the experience.
[23:16] <oloughlin75> lmao - not a good part, though
[23:16] <niall> what you trying to get to work?
[23:16] <Crashed> cd
[23:16] <Crashed> Oops
[23:16] <Crashed> Hey, I'd like to know why Kubuntu is making my speakers beep randomly.
[23:17] <oloughlin75> right now the touchpad, i set the driver to synaptics in the xorg.conf, and i ran a utility that told me to add something else, which broke xorg
[23:17] <Crashed> Noo! My exe failed :(
[23:17] <ignoramus> oloughlin75: did you add "SHM" to your xorg.conf?
[23:17] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: yeah... wine is not very reliable
[23:17] <oloughlin75> Thats what I tried, and thats what broke it
[23:18] <oloughlin75> is it JUST "SHM"?
[23:18] <ignoramus> oloughlin75: are you still having problems?
[23:18] <oloughlin75> I am up and running, but I couldnt get the UI before
[23:18] <oloughlin75> i add "SHMConfig"
[23:18] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: I have to go.... good luck with Linux :)
[23:19] <oloughlin75> should it be just "SHM"?
[23:19] <ignoramus> no- you should add "Options" > "SHMconfig" > "on"
[23:19] <Crashed> nosrednaekim: thanks a lot with all the help.
[23:19] <oloughlin75> where?
[23:19] <Crashed> I'll try to figure this out on my own :)
[23:19] <ignoramus> in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:19] <oloughlin75> oh
[23:19] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: google is your freind... use it.
[23:19] <Crashed> Google hates me, actually.
[23:19] <oloughlin75> I thought that is what i did, but i will try again
[23:19] <Crashed> I bullied it during high school.
[23:20] <nosrednaekim> Crashed: heh well "don't be mean to the school nerd, someday he'll be your boss"
[23:20] <nosrednaekim> I hate to say that was by Bill Gates
[23:20] <ignoramus> oloughlin75: see my perfectly working xorg entry > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55542/
[23:21] <oloughlin75> ignoramus: is it safe to copy and paste that into mine? :)
[23:21] <oloughlin75> i see what I did wrong now...
[23:21] <oloughlin75> Thanks a lot ignoramus!
[23:22] <oloughlin75> ill brb
[23:22] <ignoramus> oloughlin75: it's safe to add that SHM line, yes :)
[23:22] <ignoramus> oloughlin75: the other entries i've fine-tuned for my touchpad - you may have better results using other settings
[23:24] <[mfk]> hi!
[23:24] <ignoramus> hello!
[23:25] <[mfk]> i've a problem with the MBR of my hd0
[23:25] <ignoramus> so anyone else having problems with volume on the mplayer-plugin?
[23:25] <[mfk]> who can help me?
[23:25] <sayucyof> you
[23:25] <ignoramus> [mfk] prolly someone :) what's the problem?
[23:25] <sayucyof> lol
[23:27] <sayucyof> [mfk]: you used linux only?
[23:27] <[mfk]> i've installed from Wubi Kubuntu 7.10 on my USB-HDD, i cannot make the bootup on it because my motherboard doesn't support the bootup on USB device..however, i want to cancel the MBR, and then retry to install it (from the Lice CD)
[23:27] <[mfk]> (*Live!)
[23:28] <[mfk]> no i've windows xp on hd0
[23:28] <ignoramus> [mfk]: so you want to partition your internal HDD, right?
[23:29] <[mfk]> no..
[23:29] <[mfk]> i want to install it on my external HDD
[23:29] <ignoramus> [mfk]: hmm... i see the dilemma... :/
[23:29] <[mfk]> but i want to cancel the MBR of the previous installation and understand where to install the bootloader during the next installation
[23:30] <oloughlin75> ignoramus: I just added your xorg.conf info for the touchpad and it hasnt done anything?
[23:30] <sayucyof> need usb boot
[23:31] <blizzzek> gn8
[23:31] <[mfk]> yes i know but i've read it's possible to make a bootable cd that make the bootup on the USB device
[23:31] <oloughlin75> The touchpad thing I downloaded still tells me Shared Memory not accessible, please add SHMConfig on...
[23:31] <ignoramus> oloughlin75: you restarted x?
[23:31] <oloughlin75> ignoramus: yes
[23:31] <ignoramus> [mfk]: maybe this can help? > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811
[23:32] <ignoramus> oloughlin75: please pastebin your entire xorg.conf
[23:32] <[mfk]> ignoramus: wait i open it
[23:32] <founder_> Hi
[23:32] <mixed> can anyone recommend me an open source DB?
[23:32] <[mfk]> database?
[23:33] <Dr_willis> MySQL
[23:33] <Dr_willis> :)
[23:33] <[mfk]> exatly :)
[23:33] <heinkel_111> mixed: MySQL
[23:33] <[mfk]> exactly :)
[23:33] <oloughlin75> Ok
[23:33] <oloughlin75> ignoramus: http://pastebin.org/18972 is my xorg
[23:33] <heinkel_111> unless you need something very secure for a high number of users
[23:33] <mixed> is there any specific reason why you would prefer MySQL over postGRE?
[23:34] <ignoramus> oloughlin75: i think i see the problem.. hang on
[23:34] <oloughlin75> Ok
[23:34] <themonotone> sqlite or postgresql
[23:34] <themonotone> :-D
[23:35] <ignoramus> i've found that mysql sometimes is a resource hog (it managed my Amarok db)
[23:35] <themonotone> I'm a fan of sqlite honestly :-) no need to setup a db and have yet another login
[23:36] <[mfk]> ignoramus: i'm printing it, i'm going to bed and i'll read it
[23:37] <mixed> ignoramus, so which DB  you would recommend?
[23:37] <[mfk]> ingoramus: perhaps i'll make kubuntu dreams ;) however thanks. i believe this will help me to understand more about Kubuntu
[23:37] <[mfk]> goodnight to everybody
[23:37] <ignoramus> dr_willis is the better source, but i've had better luck with sqlite
[23:37] <Dr_willis> Ive only used mysql with Mythtv
[23:37] <sayucyof> [mfk]: wait
[23:37] <[mfk]> okay
[23:38] <Dr_willis> Which to use - deopends on your needs.
[23:38] <[mfk]> sayucyof: okay :)
[23:38] <oloughlin75> ignoramus: Do you see what m problem is/?
[23:38] <sayucyof> why you dont want install mbr?
[23:38] <ignoramus> oloughlin75: see if adding this to your xorg.conf helps > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55546/
[23:38] <mixed> themonotone, would you know which DB is most widely use, open source wise?
[23:39] <ignoramus> oloughlin75: once added, you just have to restart X (Ctrl+Alt+Bkspc) to put it into effect
[23:39] <sayucyof> if you know  MBR fix command
[23:39] <themonotone> sure, bdb
[23:39] <sayucyof> fdisk /mbr  on windows cmd
[23:39] <themonotone> its used on probably every unix box known to man by some program or other :-)
[23:39] <[mfk]> i simply want to cancel the MBR created on the installation of Kubuntu from Wubi!
[23:40] <[mfk]> sayucyof: i've tried but nothing, when i rebot i re-have the same MBR, cannot understand why!
[23:41] <[mfk]> i've tried also fixmbr command in dos
[23:41] <sayucyof> boot from hd0?
[23:41] <[mfk]> yes the mbr is on hd0
[23:42] <[mfk]> it was installed there automatically from wubi
[23:43] <[mfk]> i cannot understand why!
[23:43] <Dr_willis> i dident think wubi used  a mbr. I thought it some how alteree the windows boot files/configs.. but ive never used wubi. only read a little about it.
[23:43] <[mfk]> mhmh...
[23:43] <[mfk]> it's an enigma
[23:44] <[mfk]> i want my previous MBR back
[23:44] <sayucyof> lol
[23:44] <[mfk]> than try to reinstall it
[23:44] <[mfk]> yes, lol!
[23:45] <mefisto__> error when trying to start konqueror or kaffeine: Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/i386/dl-machine.h: 550: elf_machine_rel_relative: Assertion `((reloc->r_info) & 0xff) == 8' failed!
[23:45] <ignoramus> dr_willis: you think Super Grub Disk could help him?
[23:45] <Dr_willis> No idea, if wubi altered the xp/whatever boot  ini files.. I dont see how.
[23:46] <sayucyof> http://wubi.sourceforge.net/faq.php
[23:46] <sayucyof> read here
[23:46] <Dr_willis> If it truely altered the mbr, then 'fdisk /mbr' should of installed the normal windows mbr.
[23:46] <[mfk]> exactly, should!!!
[23:47] <ignoramus> [mfk]: what kind of output do you get when running fdisk?
[23:47] <Dr_willis> i would have to say - check the wubi docs on what it does.  - I did not think it messed with the mbr.
[23:47] <[mfk]> ignoramus: nothing!
[23:48] <oloughlin75> SOOO easy to plunge into command line!
[23:49] <ignoramus> oloughlin75: did you get your touchpad working?
[23:49] <oloughlin75> ignoramus: Thank you a lot alot! Mouse works!
[23:49] <[mfk]> god
[23:49] <ignoramus> oloughlin75:  good! :)
[23:49] <[mfk]> i believe it was the easiest thing of the world
[23:49] <ignoramus> [mfk]: did you say you have windows on the internal hdd?  xp or vista?
[23:49] <oloughlin75> ignoramus: I had to take out the lin that you used that specified the ocnfigured mouse-- i erased that input device
[23:50] <[mfk]> XP!
[23:50] <oloughlin75> thanks a ton for the help
[23:50] <ignoramus> [mfk]: you should be able to use the XP Recovery part of the install disc to fix mbr, right?
[23:50] <ignoramus> oloughlin75: no problem
[23:50] <[mfk]> ignoramus & Dr_willis: i didn't disinstalled WUBI!!!! I'm really a dull!
[23:51] <ignoramus> [mfk]: dude, calm down.  what I'm saying is, "Do you have your XP install disc handy?"
[23:51] <[mfk]> yes i've tried it from my installation cd
[23:52] <ignoramus> [mfk]: if so, you should be able to insert the disc, and go through the recovery process to "Repair Windows" - it will overwrite your messed up mbr
[23:52] <[mfk]> i've done it but i'm supposing the problem is because i haven't disinstalled Wubi!
[23:52] <[mfk]> i try to reboot and i come back here
[23:53] <ignoramus> [mfk]: wubi's not even on that hdd!
[23:53] <ignoramus> jeeze.
[23:53] <mixed> how do you install synaptic?
[23:53] <mixed> forget it, it's already installed LoL
[23:54] <oloughlin75> One more question, how do I install w32codecs? It is telling me it is referenced by another package
[23:54] <ubuntu> hi
[23:54] <ignoramus> oloughlin75: sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[23:54] <ignoramus> ;)
[23:55] <sayucyof> :)
[23:55] <ignoramus> oloughlin75: oh, i didn't see that last part... does it say what package?
[23:56] <europlant> Thanks you to nosrednaekim, ubotu (robot:) and Crashed for advise of install skype, it is easy
[23:56] <[mfk]> mates i've solved!!
[23:57] <[mfk]> it was Wubi!!
[23:57] <ignoramus> oloughlin75: try running "sudo apt-get -f install"
[23:57] <ignoramus> [mfk]: how did you fix it?
[23:58] <[mfk]> now the MBR is returned as previuosly: when i've disinstalled Wubi i've seen it cancelled a file in c: called kubuntu.mbr, i believe this file was call at the boot from the boot.ini, a kind of .css into the .htm!
[23:58] <[mfk]> i'ìve simply unistalled Wubi :)
[23:58] <ignoramus> [mfk]: facepalm.jpg
[23:59] <[mfk]> the easiest things are always the most difficult to understand!
[23:59] <sayucyof> :)