=== no0tic_ is now known as no0tic-local [00:14] In ubotu, ethan961 said: !sony is the master of rootkits on audio cd's [00:16] err.. thank you? [00:37] is anyone in #xubuntu [00:39] so if anyone is in #xubuntu i extremely dislike the words typed by the nick blake__ and now his nick is negro. its offensive to me [00:40] negro is now an offensive term? [00:40] no but n*gger is [00:40] soldats: ah, ok, that it is. [00:41] jdong, "negro" is offensive in italian [00:41] it somewhat hurts to see that word displayed in a family friendly channel [00:42] no0tic-local: yeah, different countries are in different places on the euphemism treadmill [00:42] it's a fascinating subject, I once wrote a paper on it [00:43] did I piss him off or something? :( [00:44] well I'm idling in the channel and nothing's happening (tm) [00:47] jdong, not a matter of euphemisms really... [00:47] * Seveas euphemisms jdong [00:47] Seveas: ow! [00:47] jdong: "negro" and "nigger" are the very same word, both from latin "niger", simply meaning "black". [00:47] LjL: true, but at one point in the USA (late 80s or so) it was the politically correct, preferred term. [00:48] but in the mid 90's and beyond it flipped back to being offensive. [00:48] in fact, the current trend is "African American" is starting to become a questionable term [00:48] jdong: maybe, but i'm saying, it's not a matter of italy being on a different place on the euphemisms treadmill - it's just that the *italian* word "negro" translates quite literally into "nigger" [00:48] LjL: cool :) [00:49] jdong: while the *english* word "negro" is a loanword (which can possibly explain why it's felt as softer, donno) [00:49] LjL: I'll put that on the list of words not to use in Italy :) [00:49] jdong, also avoid 'LjL' [00:50] :) [00:50] negro is 'black' in spanish [00:50] it's a rather nasty offensive word [00:50] nalioth: what i'm saying. [00:50] nigger is also "black" [00:50] LjL, no, you were saying italian :p [00:50] they *all* mean "black" etymologically [00:50] * jdong sits back and watches amusedly [00:50] Seveas: in italian it doesn't mean "black", though, which is "nero" :) [00:51] ♪ I see a red door and I want it painted nigger ♫ [00:51] that just doesn't sound good :) [00:51] "etymologically" doesn't mean it's what it *means* [00:51] ok [00:51] LjL: in english "nero" is a CD burning utility [00:51] (kidding) [00:52] Words used in English: "black", native word literally meaning "black"; "nigger", native word coming from latin "niger", which means "black" in latin; "negro", loanword from spanish where it means "black", coming from latin "niger" again [00:53] Words used in Italian: "nero", native word literally meaning "black", from latin "niger", meaning "black"; "negro", native word literally meaning "nigger", from latin "niger", meaning "black" [00:53] Words used in Latin: seveus, meaning "mad dutchman" [00:55] LjL, http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=QD58hS-zPAk [00:55] hmm, not the one i was looking for [00:56] hmm, can't find it [00:56] too bad [00:58] Seveas: you see, if the flash "fix" didn't break my flash, perhaps [01:00] anon32 slightly trolling in #k [01:27] apparently Hirvinen thought it was a good idea to publicise a root exploit in #ubuntu and #kubuntu ... [01:30] Hirvinen called the ops in #ubuntu (Sorry, if I infringe on policy, but I think this locals root exploit, https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=209460 , works at least on Hardy 2.6.24-7 and Edgy 2.6.17-12. I think it would be topic-worthy.) [01:30] Hirvinen called the ops in #kubuntu (Sorry, if I infringe on policy, but I think this locals root exploit, https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=209460 , works at least on Hardy 2.6.24-7 and Edgy 2.6.17-12. I think it would be topic-worthy.) [01:32] ??? [01:34] ... [01:45] i told him to file a bug [01:47] PriceChild: good boy [01:47] PriceChild: actually [01:47] PriceChild: a CVE had already been tracked, the team is aware of it [01:47] funky [01:47] most of the guys are out on weekend though [01:47] jdong, wanna tell him? [01:47] PriceChild: nah you can tell them [01:52] Hey ethan961, can I help? [01:54] Not at the moment, although if I have been banned from a channel, and I want to appeal, does the op who banned me need to be online? [01:56] "depends" [01:56] ok, thanks === Jack_Sparrow is now known as RJ_Squirrel [04:38] so how does get unbanned from #ubuntu.... considering I haven't been there in ages [04:39] ChamPro: I would need to see who banned you in the first place. [04:40] ChamPro: Most everyone is gone.... or busy [04:40] okie.... [04:40] saturday night.... :) [04:40] when's a good time to come back? [04:41] ChamPro: Sunday daytime USA or monday [04:41] gotcha [04:41] I would not even be here if I was not showing someone around irc [04:41] Thanks for understanding [04:46] Jack_Sparrow: you are a marked man, quit trying to weasel out of things :D [04:46] Argh!!!!!!!!!!!!! [04:47] Look at what time I started this am.. By my count about 18 hours ago [04:47] * nalioth looks closer at ChamPro [04:47] Thanks for checking on this [04:49] ChamPro: i don't see any reason you should be banned from #ubuntu [04:49] i don't even see any bans in #ubuntu that would keep you out [04:50] ChamPro: try and join again [04:55] " Cannot join #ubuntu (You are banned)." [04:56] Jack_Sparrow: do you see any bans in there that'd affect ChamPro ? [04:56] ChamPro: are you using a tor server or anything like that [04:57] nope... just connecting through xchat-gnome [04:57] plain ol' Verizon [04:57] 23:54 -!- 179 - #ubuntu: ban *!*@141.151.* [by nalioth!i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth, 1570992 secs ago] [04:57] Yes, I can see that [04:57] whoa. [04:58] alrighty then [04:58] * crdlb takes a cookie [04:58] that's a big set of IPs [04:58] ChamPro: well, when you have troublmakers who recycle their IPs and come back repeatedly . . . [04:58] you can join #ubuntu now, ChamPro :) [04:59] * nalioth sends crdlb a cookie monster, too [04:59] thanks [05:00] I'm in [05:25] tonyyarusso: i'm sad :( [05:26] nalioth: why this time? [05:26] * tonyyarusso is sad b/c days are only 24 hours and there are only 7 of them in a week [05:26] you've not built any OSX goodies lately [05:28] It's true. TBH, I haven't built anything lately of the Ubuntu type - I've been too distracted from the volunteer Ubuntu building by the for-pay Drupal building. [05:28] aha [05:29] so how much money do you owe me for powerpc drupal constructs? :P [05:30] None - one of them is on DreamHost and the other is a Sun server at school. === no0tic_ is now known as no0tic-local [05:51] MasterShrek called the ops in #ubuntu () [07:06] hello [07:06] ? [07:06] anyone here? [07:08] ? [09:31] hi [09:32] i hav been banned at the #ubuntu beacause i just ask too many question? [09:36] can i be relese from the ban beacause i see nothing that i have done wrong [09:36] Hey there tommyie. [09:37] hi [09:38] One moment while I check logs. [09:39] thx [09:44] tommyie, what's with the new nickname btw? [09:45] just change...im not pro ( aminpro..) [09:45] :) [09:45] You are not aminpro? [09:45] im aminpro [09:45] oh but you're not pro [09:45] it's just nicknames [09:46] What's #ubuntu for? [09:46] yes im not pro [09:46] i hav problem in installing ubuntu [09:47] Yesterday you were asking about "syslinux" though? [09:47] yes..but i hav another method but failed... [09:47] i give up the syslinux..so i try another method to install it [09:48] Ok so what's #ubuntu for? [09:49] its for asking if we hav problems(support) [09:50] problems and support in general? like if I have a problem with a girlfriend can I go ask in there? [09:50] itsa a general help..recomended ..where to start [09:50] What about if I have a problem with Windows? [09:50] genaral help in ubuntu [09:51] if its related in installing the ubuntu [09:51] aha close enough [09:51] !support [09:51] The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org [09:51] srry page not found.... [09:52] if you read the topic in there when you joined, you'd see its for ubuntu support only. [09:52] We don't support syslinux [09:52] ooh [09:52] i tought ubuntu is linux's [09:52] i tought they r together [09:52] Nope :) Ubuntu is just one variant of linux. [09:53] oooh [09:53] its like linux [09:53] nope... [09:53] in the same way ubuntu is a distribution of linux [09:53] a square is a type of rectangle [09:53] oohh..ic..ic [09:53] but a rectangle isn't a type of square etc. etc. === tommyie is now known as amin1 [09:55] i chane my neme but without hte pro [09:56] So we happy with that concept? [09:56] yes [09:56] !guidelines | amin1 [09:56] amin1: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [09:56] amin1, could you read that link then say my name in this channel please? :) [09:57] like... +PriceChild: [09:57] yup [09:57] +PriceChild: ok [09:59] +PriceChild : when can i join back so i can resolve my problem... my hardrive is gone....but it shows the computer management( not in mycomputer) [10:00] amin1, go read the guidelines then say when done [10:12] ok [10:12] done [10:12] +PriceChild: i mean done [10:13] amin1, happy to abide by those guidelines in #ubuntu? [10:13] :) [10:14] yes [10:18] amin1, you can rejoin #ubuntu, please stay on topic and follow the guidelines. [10:18] Seveas, I seem to be having troubles with chanserv.py whilst connected via bip :/ [10:18] thank you very much..... [10:18] :) [10:19] PriceChild, bip? [10:19] Gary, bip [10:19] !info bip [10:19] bip (source: bip): multiuser irc proxy with conversation replay and more. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 70 kB, installed size 248 kB [10:19] ahhh [10:20] amin1, anything else I can help with? [10:21] No idea why bip makes a difference, should be transparent :/ [10:56] I'm in the mood to be mean.... [10:57] toying with letting back in but muting and +z'ing.... but i shouldn't... because that's wrong. [11:04] 05:10 < solidnail> all the pakis please stand up please stand up [11:04] WTF [11:06] 05:12 * solidnail jonybravo iraq war is going on and you are doing this [11:06] guys, kick [11:07] jpatrick called the ops in #ubuntu (solidnail - ot, rude) [11:07] jpatrick, ops works a lot lot quicker [11:07] PriceChild: :p [11:09] I'm on this list supposedly... [11:13] * jpatrick eyes Kheops in #k [11:17] woop woop death threat [11:17] yay! [11:18] you must feel so loved now :) [11:18] makes me feel all warm inside [11:18] but awww... now he said "jk" [11:18] aww [11:19] i'm laughing so hard inside. i swear. really, i am. [11:31] death threats, blimey === mc44_ is now known as mc44 [12:41] Gary, prod [12:41] * Gary gets prodded [12:41] could you drop the nick ubotu2 [12:42] has been used for a second 30 weeks ago [12:42] actually, it has been used for a whopping 5 minute [12:42] s [12:43] done [12:43] thanks [12:43] take it you don't need my /nicksetup spam? [12:43] :) [12:44] gonna link it to ubotu [12:48] it's a pain to register 11 nicknames on freenode :) [12:48] haha [12:49] I've seen nicks with 19 linked [12:49] ubotu{,2,3,4}{,`,_} [12:49] Sorry, I don't know anything about 2,3,4}{,`,_} - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [12:49] @lart himself [12:50] LjL, prod [12:51] Gary, LjL registered ubotu`, would you mind dropping that as well so I can register and link it? [12:52] dropped Seveas [12:53] and linked [12:53] 5 down, 6 to go [12:53] not gonna make me drop em all are you? [12:54] * Gary wants to see daylight today [12:54] neh, those are most likely not registered [12:54] they're not [12:55] they're not not registered? :p [12:55] unless you did that in the last minute :p [12:56] what nicks? [12:56] hah [12:56] I'll tell that after I rgeistered them [12:57] okay, I'll wait till after to drop em then :p [12:57] * Gary hides [12:58] I will send the long pointy stick to hunt you down [12:58] arghhhhhhhhhh [12:58] I've got 14 nicks :P [12:59] Seveas: You want UbuntuBot? :) [13:00] is this like pokemon card sharing? [13:00] That was my custom bot that stored bits of python in mysql and dynamically executed them for all functions except the factoid database :) [13:00] never had to restart the bot to reprogram basically all of it [13:01] Amaranth, new ubotu will do something with a similar goal but better design [13:02] hey now, it was a pretty cool design 3 years ago :P [13:02] heh, almost exactly two years ago, and it was used for 2 weeks [13:02] wow, back then it only had to deal with like 300 users [13:03] err, almost exactly three years ago [13:03] 2 nicks to go [13:27] In #ubuntu-mozillateam, Ubulette said: !forget dbgsym [13:36] In #ubuntu-mozillateam, Ubulette said: !forget dbgsym* [13:37] In #ubuntu-mozillateam, Ubulette said: !forget dbgsym* [13:41] !dbgsym [13:41] described on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash [13:41] Ubulette, why do we want to delete that? [13:43] because we (asac and me) wanted to change the previous value but the bot kept saying it already means something else [13:45] and !forget didn't work either [13:45] PriceChild, ^^ [13:47] Ubulette, what do you want to change it to? [13:48] PriceChild, asac wanted to rephrase a bit so he started to fight with the bot, nothing worked [13:49] Ubulette, !no dbgsym is [13:51] oh, thanks :) [13:51] In #ubuntu-mozillateam, Ubulette said: !no dbgsym is also described on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash [13:51] hm [13:51] i just pasted the last try of asac [13:52] * PriceChild wonders what the point in this was [13:52] !no dbgsym is described on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash [13:52] I know nothing about dbgsym yet, PriceChild [13:53] don't ask me, ask asac ;) [13:53] !dbgsym [13:53] described on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash [13:53] !dbgsym [13:53] !-dbgsym [13:53] dbgsym-also has no aliases - added by asac on 2008-02-10 14:34:56 [13:53] ah i see what's happenned [13:54] ole [13:54] In #ubuntu-mozillateam, shirish said: ubotu: asac is https://launchpad.net/~asac [13:54] Hey asac [13:54] For some reason, dbgsym was deleted. [13:54] hi PriceChild [13:54] Then dbgsym-also was made. [13:54] yeah ... i removed it by !forget dbgsym [13:55] well ... i did that because i couldn't add any new dbgsym info [13:55] I have deleted dbgsym-also, and brought back dbgsym [13:55] great [13:55] !dbgsym [13:55] dbgsym is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash [13:55] asac, the correct way to edit existing factoids is "no factoid is foo" [13:55] the "no" is important when editing [13:55] yeah ... i tries to delete and in a second step create it ... but that doesn't work. imo a bug [13:56] not really [13:56] when deleted... this happens: [13:56] !search dbgsym [13:56] Found: dbgsym-also*, dbgsym [13:56] ah ... so its still remembered? [13:56] notice the star? that shows its deleted, so it won't be called [13:56] it means its easy to bring it back [13:56] so people can not remove valuable infos by accident? [13:56] how to bring it back then? [13:56] i didn't find anything on the wiki [13:56] "unforget foo" [13:56] oh cool [13:57] now i understand :) [13:57] did you give Ubulette factoids ops rights? can you do so? [13:57] Seveas, manages the bot. [13:58] Seveas: ^^ [13:58] PriceChild: ok thanks ;) [13:58] Ubulette, are you a developer/motu ? [13:58] I don't know Ubulette so I won't give him/her access [13:58] if anybody on the ops team can vouch for him/hir, that might change [13:59] he works a lot on the mozillateam [13:59] but nevermind ... i think we can live without it [13:59] he can always do edits, they're forwarded here for revies [13:59] review* [14:00] ok [14:00] edits are normally done pretty quickly as there's always someone here tbh [14:01] asac, nm, i'm fine [14:02] tonyyarusso, is a mozilla guy right? [14:02] and the way shirish was hanging around makes me a bit :/ [14:04] grr Seveas hold me back [14:05] Hi everyone [14:06] would please someone take care of a problem that arised in #ubuntu [14:06] an user came asking about iceweasel and firefox [14:06] and was promptly kicked by seveas with not agreeable reasons [14:06] when i protested i was kicked as well [14:06] assasukasse, you called me a nazi. That's not done [14:07] come back in a week [14:07] i said this is a nazi behaviour [14:07] same difference [14:07] Seveas: power corrupts [14:07] indeed [14:08] Hello dobau, can I help? [14:17] Seveas, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=692881 [14:18] hangs on connecting [14:18] problem your end [14:19] could be, I can't connect to fridge/planet either [14:19] anyway, what's it about [14:20] http://pastebin.ca/898644 [14:20] good riddance [14:20] Removed the logs, closed the thread and suggested he pm you to resolve the issue. === mc44_ is now known as mc44 [14:21] Seveas: someone's in love with you [14:21] Seveas: how do you know it's russian when they don't use UTF? [14:21] whois on the ip [14:23] Seveas: is that in autowhatever.py yet? :) [14:23] no [14:23] The poster is assasukasse. [14:25] * PriceChild stalks him and watches what he's viewing [14:32] PriceChild, you is evil [14:32] Pici, are you around or just in that machine still? [14:32] ompaul, what'd I do? [14:32] stalking [14:32] :) [14:37] ahh [14:37] he sent a nice pm [14:37] (not being sarcastic) [14:49] PriceChild, note that the thing here is that the person who is being asked about is a serial troll on the subject of ice weasel - love is racing across the tundra and at night the troll stoppers catch up with you [14:50] ompaul, I didn't realise he had a history sorry. [14:50] makes me more comfortable with the outcome :) [14:50] earthtroll? [14:51] LjL, more like w00t-wegotasubjecttotrollabout [14:51] ompaul: was a pun [14:52] think four elements [14:52] LjL, sorry I was blinded by the word troll - it does something to me, and then I morf into something else :) [15:03] PriceChild: not in the sense of working for them or anything, but the one package I work on in universe is of the mozilla family, yes. [15:29] anyone here? [15:29] yes [15:29] How can we help? [15:29] i am wondering if a website can get permission to connect to room ubuntu with pjirc [15:30] !register | Mr__ [15:30] Mr__: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration [15:30] well this would be a webchat [15:30] Mr__, given the effect of web chat and the abuses of it I can't see it happening any time soon [15:31] i c [15:31] i just wanted to add ubuntu support on and ubuntu based site [15:31] Mr__, unfortunate but the way any such service including tor has been abused it does not help the ubuntu channel work [15:32] ic [15:32] understood [15:33] as for ubuntu based site be aware of the jobs that wiki.ubuntu.com help.ubuntu.com and ubuntuforums do [15:33] Mr__, ^^ what might be useful would be for you to explain to people how to get connected to IRC using a sensible client [15:33] and how to register with freenode [15:34] i c [15:34] i was think a link that launched xchat for them [15:34] well they have to have xchat installed first [15:34] Mr__, mibbit.com have worked out a system to let them get their users in our channel. [15:35] * ompaul was unaware of this [15:35] until now [15:35] ompaul, try it :) [15:36] well i will follow the rules [15:36] just trying to create something for all us ubuntu fans [15:37] i already had to change the name [15:37] lol === jdong_ is now known as jdong [15:49] * jpatrick hugs ompaul [15:49] ompaul: the patch for mibbit seems to work fine other than a bit of spam when they log in [15:49] hehe [16:07] mib mib :) [16:08] how do you see the ip from a mibbit user then? [16:08] /whois mib_acjtgl9q [16:09] ident and realname [16:09] ah [16:09] nice [16:09] so even if you use a cloak you can see the ip [16:09] yes that's a side effect [16:09] freenode's issue, not ours or mibbits [16:10] LjL, watching the rugby? [16:10] This mibbit thing is pretty neat [16:10] yeah, the guy who manages mibbit would like to just have the host showing in the normal hostname part of the mask [16:10] it's possible on other networks [16:10] mib_acjtgl9q, gonna start using it as your default client? :) [16:10] but obviously it requires that the ircd has something to do that [16:10] PriceChild: not really [16:10]