[00:14] <ubotu> In ubotu, ethan961 said: !sony is the master of rootkits on audio cd's
[00:16] <jdong> err.. thank you?
[00:37] <soldats> is anyone in #xubuntu
[00:39] <soldats> so if anyone is in #xubuntu i extremely dislike the words typed by the nick blake__ and now his nick is negro. its offensive to me 
[00:40] <jdong> negro is now an offensive term?
[00:40] <soldats> no but n*gger is
[00:40] <jdong> soldats: ah, ok, that it is.
[00:41] <no0tic-local> jdong, "negro" is offensive in italian
[00:41] <soldats> it somewhat hurts to see that word displayed in a family friendly channel
[00:42] <jdong> no0tic-local: yeah, different countries are in different places on the euphemism treadmill
[00:42] <jdong> it's a fascinating subject, I once wrote a paper on it
[00:43] <jdong> did I piss him off or something? :(
[00:44] <jdong> well I'm idling in the channel and nothing's happening (tm)
[00:47] <LjL> jdong, not a matter of euphemisms really...
[00:47]  * Seveas euphemisms jdong 
[00:47] <jdong> Seveas: ow!
[00:47] <LjL> jdong: "negro" and "nigger" are the very same word, both from latin "niger", simply meaning "black".
[00:47] <jdong> LjL: true, but at one point in the USA (late 80s or so) it was the politically correct, preferred term.
[00:48] <jdong> but in the mid 90's and beyond it flipped back to being offensive.
[00:48] <jdong> in fact, the current trend is "African American" is starting to become a questionable term
[00:48] <LjL> jdong: maybe, but i'm saying, it's not a matter of italy being on a different place on the euphemisms treadmill - it's just that the *italian* word "negro" translates quite literally into "nigger"
[00:48] <jdong> LjL: cool :)
[00:49] <LjL> jdong: while the *english* word "negro" is a loanword (which can possibly explain why it's felt as softer, donno)
[00:49] <jdong> LjL: I'll put that on the list of words not to use in Italy :)
[00:49] <Seveas> jdong, also avoid 'LjL'
[00:50] <jdong> :)
[00:50] <nalioth> negro is 'black' in spanish
[00:50] <Seveas> it's a rather nasty offensive word
[00:50] <LjL> nalioth: what i'm saying.
[00:50] <LjL> nigger is also "black"
[00:50] <Seveas> LjL, no, you were saying italian :p
[00:50] <LjL> they *all* mean "black" etymologically
[00:50]  * jdong sits back and watches amusedly
[00:50] <LjL> Seveas: in italian it doesn't mean "black", though, which is "nero" :)
[00:51] <Seveas> ♪ I see a red door and I want it painted nigger ♫
[00:51] <Seveas> that just doesn't sound good :)
[00:51] <LjL> "etymologically" doesn't mean it's what it *means*
[00:51] <LjL> ok
[00:51] <jdong> LjL: in english "nero" is a CD burning utility
[00:51] <jdong> (kidding)
[00:52] <LjL> Words used in English: "black", native word literally meaning "black"; "nigger", native word coming from latin "niger", which means "black" in latin; "negro", loanword from spanish where it means "black", coming from latin "niger" again
[00:53] <LjL> Words used in Italian: "nero", native word literally meaning "black", from latin "niger", meaning "black"; "negro", native word literally meaning "nigger", from latin "niger", meaning "black"
[00:53] <LjL> Words used in Latin: seveus, meaning "mad dutchman"
[00:55] <Seveas> LjL, http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=QD58hS-zPAk
[00:55] <Seveas> hmm, not the one i was looking for
[00:56] <Seveas> hmm, can't find it
[00:56] <Seveas> too bad
[00:58] <LjL> Seveas: you see, if the flash "fix" didn't break my flash, perhaps
[01:00] <LjL> anon32 slightly trolling in #k
[01:27] <stdin> apparently Hirvinen thought it was a good idea to publicise a root exploit in #ubuntu and #kubuntu ...
[01:30] <ubotu> Hirvinen called the ops in #ubuntu (Sorry, if I infringe on policy, but I think this locals root exploit, https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=209460 , works at least on Hardy 2.6.24-7 and Edgy 2.6.17-12. I think it would be topic-worthy.)
[01:30] <ubotu> Hirvinen called the ops in #kubuntu (Sorry, if I infringe on policy, but I think this locals root exploit, https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=209460 , works at least on Hardy 2.6.24-7 and Edgy 2.6.17-12. I think it would be topic-worthy.)
[01:32] <jdong> ???
[01:34] <Pici> ...
[01:45] <PriceChild> i told him to file a bug
[01:47] <jdong> PriceChild: good boy
[01:47] <jdong> PriceChild: actually
[01:47] <jdong> PriceChild: a CVE had already been tracked, the team is aware of it
[01:47] <PriceChild> funky
[01:47] <jdong> most of the guys are out on weekend though
[01:47] <PriceChild> jdong, wanna tell him?
[01:47] <jdong> PriceChild: nah you can tell them
[01:52] <PriceChild> Hey ethan961, can I help?
[01:54] <ethan961> Not at the moment, although if I have been banned from a channel, and I want to appeal, does the op who banned me need to be online? 
[01:56] <PriceChild> "depends"
[01:56] <ethan961> ok, thanks
[04:38] <ChamPro> so how does get unbanned from #ubuntu.... considering I haven't been there in ages
[04:39] <Jack_Sparrow> ChamPro: I would need to see who banned you in the first place.
[04:40] <Jack_Sparrow> ChamPro: Most everyone is gone.... or busy
[04:40] <ChamPro> okie....
[04:40] <jdong> saturday night.... :)
[04:40] <ChamPro> when's a good time to come back?
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> ChamPro: Sunday daytime USA or monday
[04:41] <ChamPro> gotcha
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> I would not even be here if I was not showing someone around irc
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Thanks for understanding
[04:46] <nalioth> Jack_Sparrow: you are a marked man, quit trying to weasel out of things   :D
[04:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Argh!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Look at what time I started this am.. By my count  about 18 hours ago
[04:47]  * nalioth looks closer at ChamPro 
[04:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Thanks for checking on this
[04:49] <nalioth> ChamPro: i don't see any reason you should be banned from #ubuntu 
[04:49] <nalioth> i don't even see any bans in #ubuntu that would keep you out
[04:50] <Jack_Sparrow> ChamPro: try and join again
[04:55] <ChamPro> " Cannot join #ubuntu (You are banned)."
[04:56] <nalioth> Jack_Sparrow: do you see any bans in there that'd affect ChamPro ?
[04:56] <Jack_Sparrow> ChamPro: are you using a tor server or anything like that
[04:57] <ChamPro> nope... just connecting through xchat-gnome
[04:57] <ChamPro> plain ol' Verizon
[04:57] <crdlb> 23:54 -!- 179 - #ubuntu: ban *!*@141.151.* [by nalioth!i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth, 1570992 secs ago]
[04:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Yes, I can see that
[04:57] <nalioth> whoa.
[04:58] <nalioth> alrighty then
[04:58]  * crdlb takes a cookie
[04:58] <ChamPro> that's a big set of IPs
[04:58] <nalioth> ChamPro: well, when you have troublmakers who recycle their IPs and come back repeatedly . . . 
[04:58] <nalioth> you can join #ubuntu now, ChamPro :)
[04:59]  * nalioth sends crdlb a cookie monster, too
[04:59] <ChamPro> thanks
[05:00] <ChamPro> I'm in
[05:25] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: i'm sad  :(
[05:26] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: why this time?
[05:26]  * tonyyarusso is sad b/c days are only 24 hours and there are only 7 of them in a week
[05:26] <nalioth> you've not built any OSX goodies lately
[05:28] <tonyyarusso> It's true.  TBH, I haven't built anything lately of the Ubuntu type - I've been too distracted from the volunteer Ubuntu building by the for-pay Drupal building.
[05:28] <nalioth> aha
[05:29] <nalioth> so how much money do you owe me for powerpc drupal constructs?  :P
[05:30] <tonyyarusso> None - one of them is on DreamHost and the other is a Sun server at school.
[05:51] <ubotu> MasterShrek called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[07:06] <Mr__> hello
[07:06] <Mr__> ?
[07:06] <Mr__> anyone here?
[07:08] <Mr__> ?
[09:31] <tommyie> hi
[09:32] <tommyie> i hav been banned at the #ubuntu beacause i just ask too many question?
[09:36] <tommyie> can i be relese from the ban beacause i see nothing that i have done wrong
[09:36] <PriceChild> Hey there tommyie.
[09:37] <tommyie> hi
[09:38] <PriceChild> One moment while I check logs.
[09:39] <tommyie> thx
[09:44] <PriceChild> tommyie, what's with the new nickname btw?
[09:45] <tommyie> just change...im not pro ( aminpro..)
[09:45] <tommyie> :)
[09:45] <PriceChild> You are not aminpro?
[09:45] <tommyie> im aminpro
[09:45] <PriceChild> oh but you're not pro
[09:45] <tommyie> it's just nicknames
[09:46] <PriceChild> What's #ubuntu for?
[09:46] <tommyie> yes im not pro 
[09:46] <tommyie> i hav problem in installing ubuntu
[09:47] <PriceChild> Yesterday you were asking about "syslinux" though?
[09:47] <tommyie> yes..but i hav another method but failed...
[09:47] <tommyie> i give up the syslinux..so i try another method to install it
[09:48] <PriceChild> Ok so what's #ubuntu for?
[09:49] <tommyie> its for asking if we hav problems(support)
[09:50] <PriceChild> problems and support in general? like if I have a problem with a girlfriend can I go ask in there?
[09:50] <tommyie> itsa a general help..recomended ..where to start
[09:50] <PriceChild> What about if I have a problem with Windows?
[09:50] <tommyie> genaral help in ubuntu 
[09:51] <tommyie> if its related in installing the ubuntu
[09:51] <PriceChild> aha close enough
[09:51] <PriceChild> !support
[09:51] <ubotu> The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org
[09:51] <tommyie> srry page not found....
[09:52] <PriceChild> if you read the topic in there when you joined, you'd see its for ubuntu support only.
[09:52] <PriceChild> We don't support syslinux
[09:52] <tommyie> ooh
[09:52] <tommyie> i tought ubuntu is linux's
[09:52] <tommyie> i tought they r together
[09:52] <PriceChild> Nope :) Ubuntu is just one variant of linux.
[09:53] <tommyie> oooh
[09:53] <tommyie> its like linux
[09:53] <PriceChild> nope...
[09:53] <PriceChild> in the same way ubuntu is a distribution of linux
[09:53] <PriceChild> a square is a type of rectangle
[09:53] <tommyie> oohh..ic..ic
[09:53] <PriceChild> but a rectangle isn't a type of square etc. etc.
[09:55] <amin1> i chane my neme but without hte pro
[09:56] <PriceChild> So we happy with that concept?
[09:56] <amin1> yes
[09:56] <PriceChild> !guidelines | amin1 
[09:56] <ubotu> amin1: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:56] <PriceChild> amin1, could you read that link then say my name in this channel please? :)
[09:57] <amin1> like... +PriceChild: <message>
[09:57] <PriceChild> yup
[09:57] <amin1> +PriceChild: ok
[09:59] <amin1> +PriceChild : when can i join back so i can resolve my problem... my hardrive is gone....but it shows the computer management( not in mycomputer)
[10:00] <PriceChild> amin1, go read the guidelines then say when done
[10:12] <amin1> ok
[10:12] <amin1> done
[10:12] <amin1> +PriceChild: i mean done
[10:13] <PriceChild> amin1, happy to abide by those guidelines in #ubuntu?
[10:13] <amin1> :)
[10:14] <amin1> yes
[10:18] <PriceChild> amin1, you can rejoin #ubuntu, please stay on topic and follow the guidelines.
[10:18] <PriceChild> Seveas, I seem to be having troubles with chanserv.py whilst connected via bip :/
[10:18] <amin1> thank you very much.....
[10:18] <amin1> :)
[10:19] <Gary> PriceChild, bip?
[10:19] <PriceChild> Gary, bip
[10:19] <PriceChild> !info bip
[10:19] <ubotu> bip (source: bip): multiuser irc proxy with conversation replay and more. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 70 kB, installed size 248 kB
[10:19] <Gary> ahhh
[10:20] <PriceChild> amin1, anything else I can help with?
[10:21] <PriceChild> No idea why bip makes a difference, should be transparent :/
[10:56] <PriceChild> I'm in the mood to be mean....
[10:57] <PriceChild> toying with letting <alexkreuz> back in but muting and +z'ing.... but i shouldn't... because that's wrong.
[11:04] <jpatrick> 05:10 < solidnail> all the pakis please stand up please stand up
[11:04] <jpatrick> WTF
[11:06] <jpatrick> 05:12  * solidnail jonybravo iraq war is going on and you are doing this
[11:06] <jpatrick> guys, kick
[11:07] <ubotu> jpatrick called the ops in #ubuntu (solidnail - ot, rude)
[11:07] <PriceChild> jpatrick, ops works a lot lot quicker
[11:07] <jpatrick> PriceChild: :p
[11:09] <PriceChild> I'm on this list supposedly...
[11:13]  * jpatrick eyes Kheops in #k
[11:17] <PriceChild> woop woop death threat
[11:17] <elkbuntu> yay!
[11:18] <elkbuntu> you must feel so loved now :)
[11:18] <PriceChild> makes me feel all warm inside
[11:18] <PriceChild> but awww... now he said "jk"
[11:18] <elkbuntu> aww
[11:19] <elkbuntu> i'm laughing so hard inside. i swear. really, i am.
[11:31] <Gary> death threats, blimey
[12:41] <Seveas> Gary, prod
[12:41]  * Gary gets prodded
[12:41] <Seveas> could you drop the nick ubotu2
[12:42] <Seveas> has been used for a second 30 weeks ago
[12:42] <Seveas> actually, it has been used for a whopping 5 minute
[12:42] <Seveas> s
[12:43] <Gary> done
[12:43] <Seveas> thanks
[12:43] <Gary> take it you don't need my /nicksetup spam?
[12:43] <Seveas> :)
[12:44] <Seveas> gonna link it to ubotu
[12:48] <Seveas> it's a pain to register 11 nicknames on freenode :)
[12:48] <Gary> haha
[12:49] <Gary> I've seen nicks with 19 linked
[12:49] <Seveas> ubotu{,2,3,4}{,`,_}
[12:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 2,3,4}{,`,_} - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:49] <Seveas> @lart himself
[12:50] <Seveas> LjL, prod
[12:51] <Seveas> Gary, LjL registered ubotu`, would you mind dropping that as well so I can register and link it?
[12:52] <Gary> dropped Seveas 
[12:53] <Seveas> and linked
[12:53] <Seveas> 5 down, 6 to go
[12:53] <Gary> not gonna make me drop em all are you?
[12:54]  * Gary wants to see daylight today
[12:54] <Seveas> neh, those are most likely not registered
[12:54] <Seveas> they're not
[12:55] <Gary> they're not not registered? :p
[12:55] <Seveas> unless you did that in the last minute :p
[12:56] <Gary> what nicks?
[12:56] <Seveas> hah
[12:56] <Seveas> I'll tell that after I rgeistered them
[12:57] <Gary> okay, I'll wait till after to drop em then :p
[12:57]  * Gary hides
[12:58] <Seveas> I will send the long pointy stick to hunt you down
[12:58] <Gary> arghhhhhhhhhh
[12:58] <Amaranth> I've got 14 nicks :P
[12:59] <Amaranth> Seveas: You want UbuntuBot? :)
[13:00] <Gary> is this like pokemon card sharing?
[13:00] <Amaranth> That was my custom bot that stored bits of python in mysql and dynamically executed them for all functions except the factoid database :)
[13:00] <Amaranth> never had to restart the bot to reprogram basically all of it
[13:01] <Seveas> Amaranth, new ubotu will do something with a similar goal but better design
[13:02] <Amaranth> hey now, it was a pretty cool design 3 years ago :P
[13:02] <Amaranth> heh, almost exactly two years ago, and it was used for 2 weeks
[13:02] <Amaranth> wow, back then it only had to deal with like 300 users
[13:03] <Amaranth> err, almost exactly three years ago
[13:03] <Seveas> 2 nicks to go
[13:27] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-mozillateam, Ubulette said: !forget dbgsym
[13:36] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-mozillateam, Ubulette said: !forget dbgsym*
[13:37] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-mozillateam, Ubulette said: !forget dbgsym*
[13:41] <PriceChild> !dbgsym
[13:41] <ubotu> described on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[13:41] <PriceChild> Ubulette, why do we want to delete that?
[13:43] <Ubulette> because we (asac and me) wanted to change the previous value but the bot kept saying it already means something else
[13:45] <Ubulette> and !forget didn't work either
[13:45] <Ubulette> PriceChild, ^^
[13:47] <PriceChild> Ubulette, what do you want to change it to?
[13:48] <Ubulette> PriceChild, asac wanted to rephrase a bit so he started to fight with the bot, nothing worked
[13:49] <PriceChild> Ubulette, !no dbgsym is <your new message>
[13:51] <Ubulette> oh, thanks :)
[13:51] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-mozillateam, Ubulette said: !no dbgsym is also described on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[13:51] <Ubulette> hm
[13:51] <Ubulette> i just pasted the last try of asac
[13:52]  * PriceChild wonders what the point in this was
[13:52] <PriceChild> !no dbgsym is described on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[13:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about dbgsym yet, PriceChild
[13:53] <Ubulette> don't ask me, ask asac ;)
[13:53] <PriceChild> !dbgsym
[13:53] <ubotu> described on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[13:53] <PriceChild> !dbgsym
[13:53] <PriceChild> !-dbgsym
[13:53] <ubotu> dbgsym-also has no aliases - added by asac on 2008-02-10 14:34:56
[13:53] <PriceChild> ah i see what's happenned
[13:54] <asac> ole
[13:54] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-mozillateam, shirish said: ubotu: asac is https://launchpad.net/~asac
[13:54] <PriceChild> Hey asac 
[13:54] <PriceChild> For some reason, dbgsym was deleted.
[13:54] <asac> hi PriceChild 
[13:54] <PriceChild> Then dbgsym-also was made.
[13:54] <asac> yeah ... i removed it by !forget dbgsym
[13:55] <asac> well ... i did that because i couldn't add any new dbgsym info
[13:55] <PriceChild> I have deleted dbgsym-also, and brought back dbgsym
[13:55] <asac> great
[13:55] <asac> !dbgsym
[13:55] <ubotu> dbgsym is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[13:55] <PriceChild> asac, the correct way to edit existing factoids is "no factoid is foo"
[13:55] <PriceChild> the "no" is important when editing
[13:55] <asac> yeah ... i tries to delete and in a second step create it ... but that doesn't work. imo a bug
[13:56] <PriceChild> not really
[13:56] <PriceChild> when deleted... this happens:
[13:56] <PriceChild> !search dbgsym
[13:56] <ubotu> Found: dbgsym-also*, dbgsym
[13:56] <asac> ah ... so its still remembered?
[13:56] <PriceChild> notice the star? that shows its deleted, so it won't be called
[13:56] <PriceChild> it means its easy to bring it back
[13:56] <asac> so people can not remove valuable infos by accident?
[13:56] <asac> how to bring it back then?
[13:56] <asac> i didn't find anything on the wiki
[13:56] <PriceChild> "unforget foo"
[13:56] <asac> oh cool
[13:57] <asac> now i understand :)
[13:57] <asac> did you give Ubulette factoids ops rights? can you do so?
[13:57] <PriceChild> Seveas, manages the bot.
[13:58] <asac> Seveas: ^^
[13:58] <asac> PriceChild: ok thanks ;)
[13:58] <PriceChild> Ubulette, are you a developer/motu ?
[13:58] <Seveas> I don't know Ubulette so I won't give him/her access
[13:58] <Seveas> if anybody on the ops team can vouch for him/hir, that might change
[13:59] <asac> he works a lot on the mozillateam
[13:59] <asac> but nevermind ... i think we can live without it
[13:59] <Seveas> he can always do edits, they're forwarded here for revies
[13:59] <Seveas> review*
[14:00] <asac> ok
[14:00] <PriceChild> edits are normally done pretty quickly as there's always someone here tbh
[14:01] <Ubulette> asac, nm, i'm fine
[14:02] <PriceChild> tonyyarusso, is a mozilla guy right?
[14:02] <PriceChild> and the way shirish was hanging around makes me a bit :/
[14:04] <PriceChild> grr Seveas hold me back
[14:05] <assasukasse> Hi everyone
[14:06] <assasukasse> would please someone take care of a problem that arised in #ubuntu
[14:06] <assasukasse> an user came asking about iceweasel and firefox
[14:06] <assasukasse> and was promptly kicked by seveas with not agreeable reasons
[14:06] <assasukasse> when i protested i was kicked as well
[14:06] <Seveas> assasukasse, you called me a nazi. That's not done
[14:07] <Seveas> come back in a week
[14:07] <assasukasse> i said this is a nazi behaviour
[14:07] <Seveas> same difference
[14:07] <assasukasse> Seveas: power corrupts
[14:07] <assasukasse> indeed
[14:08] <PriceChild> Hello dobau, can I help?
[14:17] <PriceChild> Seveas, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=692881
[14:18] <Seveas> hangs on connecting
[14:18] <PriceChild> problem your end
[14:19] <Seveas> could be, I can't connect to fridge/planet either
[14:19] <Seveas>  anyway, what's it about
[14:20] <PriceChild> http://pastebin.ca/898644
[14:20] <Seveas> good riddance
[14:20] <PriceChild> Removed the logs, closed the thread and suggested he pm you to resolve the issue.
[14:21] <LjL> Seveas: someone's in love with you
[14:21] <LjL> Seveas: how do you know it's russian when they don't use UTF?
[14:21] <Seveas> whois on the ip
[14:23] <LjL> Seveas: is that in autowhatever.py yet? :)
[14:23] <Seveas> no
[14:23] <PriceChild> The poster is assasukasse.
[14:25]  * PriceChild stalks him and watches what he's viewing
[14:32] <ompaul> PriceChild, you is evil
[14:32] <ompaul> Pici, are you around or just in that machine still?
[14:32] <PriceChild> ompaul, what'd I do?
[14:32] <ompaul> stalking
[14:32] <ompaul> :)
[14:37] <PriceChild> ahh
[14:37] <PriceChild> he sent a nice pm
[14:37] <PriceChild> (not being sarcastic)
[14:49] <ompaul> PriceChild, note that the thing here is that the person who is being asked about is a serial troll on the subject of ice weasel - love is racing across the tundra and at night the troll stoppers catch up with you
[14:50] <PriceChild> ompaul, I didn't realise he had a history sorry.
[14:50] <PriceChild> makes me more comfortable with the outcome :)
[14:50] <LjL> earthtroll?
[14:51] <ompaul> LjL, more like w00t-wegotasubjecttotrollabout
[14:51] <LjL> ompaul: was a pun
[14:52] <LjL> think four elements
[14:52] <ompaul> LjL, sorry I was blinded by the word troll - it does something to me, and then I morf into something else :)
[15:03] <tonyyarusso> PriceChild: not in the sense of working for them or anything, but the one package I work on in universe is of the mozilla family, yes.
[15:29] <Mr__> anyone here?
[15:29] <jussi01> yes
[15:29] <jussi01> How can we help?
[15:29] <Mr__> i am wondering if a website can get permission to connect to room ubuntu with pjirc
[15:30] <ompaul> !register | Mr__ 
[15:30] <ubotu> Mr__: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[15:30] <Mr__> well this would be a webchat
[15:30] <ompaul> Mr__, given the effect of web chat and the abuses of it I can't see it happening any time soon
[15:31] <Mr__> i c
[15:31] <Mr__> i just wanted to add ubuntu support on and ubuntu based site
[15:31] <ompaul> Mr__, unfortunate but the way any such service including tor has been abused it does not help the ubuntu channel work
[15:32] <Mr__> ic
[15:32] <Mr__> understood
[15:33] <ompaul> as for ubuntu based site be aware of the jobs that wiki.ubuntu.com help.ubuntu.com and ubuntuforums do 
[15:33] <ompaul> Mr__, ^^ what might be useful would be for you to explain to people how to get connected to IRC using a sensible client
[15:33] <ompaul> and how to register with freenode 
[15:34] <Mr__> i c
[15:34] <Mr__> i was think a link that launched xchat for them
[15:34] <ompaul> well they have to have xchat installed first
[15:34] <PriceChild> Mr__, mibbit.com have worked out a system to let them get their users in our channel.
[15:35]  * ompaul was unaware of this
[15:35] <ompaul> until now
[15:35] <PriceChild> ompaul, try it :)
[15:36] <Mr__> well i will follow the rules
[15:36] <Mr__> just trying to create something for all us ubuntu fans
[15:37] <Mr__> i already had to change the name
[15:37] <Mr__> lol
[15:49]  * jpatrick hugs ompaul 
[15:49] <Jack_Sparrow> ompaul: the patch for mibbit seems to work fine other than a bit of spam when they log in
[15:49] <ompaul> hehe
[16:07] <mib_acjtgl9q> mib mib :)
[16:08] <mib_acjtgl9q> how do you see the ip from a mibbit user then?
[16:08] <LjL>  /whois mib_acjtgl9q
[16:09] <LjL> ident and realname
[16:09] <mib_acjtgl9q> ah
[16:09] <mib_acjtgl9q> nice
[16:09] <mib_acjtgl9q> so even if you use a cloak you can see the ip
[16:09] <LjL> yes that's a side effect
[16:09] <PriceChild> freenode's issue, not ours or mibbits
[16:10] <PriceChild> LjL, watching the rugby?
[16:10] <mib_acjtgl9q> This mibbit thing is pretty neat
[16:10] <LjL> yeah, the guy who manages mibbit would like to just have the host showing in the normal hostname part of the mask
[16:10] <LjL> it's possible on other networks
[16:10] <PriceChild> mib_acjtgl9q, gonna start using it as your default client? :)
[16:10] <LjL> but obviously it requires that the ircd has something to do that
[16:10] <LjL> PriceChild: not really
[16:10] <Seveas> PriceChild, no way :)
[16:11] <Seveas> PriceChild, it has no chanserv.py
[16:11] <PriceChild> Seveas, true....
[16:11] <PriceChild> Seveas, chanserv.py isn't working with bip to do with "u" and "bans" :/
[16:11] <mib_84dw6ej1> nice
[16:12] <LjL> mib_84dw6ej1: there's one pretty nasty thing. try joining #ubuntu and then muting yourself
[16:13] <mib_84dw6ej1> It sends me to -proxy-users :)
[16:13] <mib_84dw6ej1> blimey, folodbot reacted
[16:14] <LjL> mib_84dw6ej1: yep join again
[16:14] <LjL> Seveas: by nickname
[16:14] <LjL> (yes, i guess i should implement by hostname too. i always mute by nickname...)
[16:14] <Seveas> funky!
[16:15] <LjL> Seveas: exempts trump mutes (obviously), so i had to do that. not very nice but hey :)
[16:15]  * mib_84dw6ej1 likes
[16:17] <LjL> you might want to unban yourself
[16:18] <Seveas> neh, I'm cloaked
[16:18] <Seveas> and chanserv.py auto-unbans me if needed
[16:21] <LjL> Seveas: /cs unban doesn't unban by hostname if you have a cloak - cloak or IP only :)
[16:22] <LjL> [17:22:20] [Notice] -ChanServ- No bans matching [LjL!n=ljl@ubuntu/member/ljl] and [LjL!n=ljl@81.208.36.87] were found on #ubuntu-ops
[16:22] <Seveas> LjL, but the ban also doesn't apply
[16:23] <LjL> Seveas: true but when it does apply it means you're not identified to services so you can't request an unban to begin with
[16:23] <LjL> anyway, i'm banned on ##ljl i think, so who am i to speak
[16:24] <mib_84dw6ej1> lol
[16:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Too bad you cant see what I just posted in there..
[17:18] <ompaul> yoda nay want to do datt
[17:19] <ompaul> now laddie!
[17:19] <ompaul> ! nickspam | seanw 
[17:19] <ubotu> seanw: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu-ops - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also /msg ubotu Guidelines
[17:19]  * ompaul rofl
[17:20]  * PriceChild grins at dongbotu
[17:20] <jdong> :)
[17:20] <jdong> not related! I swear! ;-)
[17:20] <seanw> hahaha
[17:20] <seanw> Sowwy!
[17:23] <ompaul> too late - whatdayamean tooo late .....
[17:23]  * ompaul has a rockin evening en route this evening
[17:24] <ompaul> Nazareth in Dublin in a couple of hours
[18:46] <ubotu> ikonia called the ops in #ubuntu (AcaroJR)
[18:47] <jpatrick> what a strange guy^
[18:47] <Pici> What did he say?
[18:48] <jpatrick> I'm going to eat you're pe...
[18:48] <Pici> How odd.
[19:29] <ubotu> Cpudan80 called the ops in #ubuntu (oscar)
[19:30] <jpatrick> oh god
[19:31] <jpatrick> I threw him out of #u-es about an hour ago
[19:32] <jpatrick> look slike he was kicked by someone else as well
[21:52] <VanDyke> hi
[21:52] <VanDyke> is there any OP around? 
[21:53] <Pici> VanDyke: Whats up?
[21:53] <VanDyke> seems like I'm banned from #ubuntu
[21:53] <Pici> VanDyke: Please change to a less colorful and more family friendly realname on your irc client.
[21:53] <VanDyke> but I don't remember entering the channel
[21:54] <VanDyke> hmmm
[21:54] <VanDyke> lol
[21:54] <VanDyke> ok will do that
[21:55] <VanDyke> nice
[21:55] <VanDyke> thx Pici
[21:57] <Pici> !idle | VanDyke you're welcome.
[21:57] <ubotu> VanDyke you're welcome.: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.
[21:57] <VanDyke> k
[22:02] <jdong> ops, heads-up Ive banforwarded a person from #uf to here
[22:02] <jdong> 17:00 -!- KIAaze [n=KIAaze@193.48.86.5] has quit [":(){ :|:&};:"]
[22:02] <jdong> ^^ for that reason.
[22:34] <Seveas> jdong, heh :)
[22:35] <ikonia> heads up on stevepriate in #ubuntu trying to get people to setup proxies for him to bypass his uni's network 
[22:47] <ikonia> Seveas: surprised you put up with that as long as you did
[22:47] <Seveas> hey, I'm trying to be troll-friendly
[22:47] <Seveas> doesn't really help :)
[22:47] <ikonia> ;)
[23:24] <ubotu> Flannel called the ops in #ubuntu (ArtiZ)
[23:24] <ubotu> MasterShrek called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[23:25] <PriceChild> LjL, bots just unmuted... but didn't mute on the flood.
[23:25] <PriceChild> ah because 3 is missing i guess