[00:00] <dabbill> oh its showing that aptitude is useing 100%, but i dont have it open
[00:00] <danand_> kdallas - np
[00:00] <asdrubal> HI BUNTUS!
[00:00] <dabbill> how do i kill that proccess ?
[00:00] <kdallas> Q3: Is there finally an IM tool which supports both voice and video? Thanks
[00:00] <magick> danand_, Thanks. a enabling the send rcv buffer fixed it. I knew the answer wasn't " you can't stream! copy first" heh. All is fixed and streaming HD is no problem :) thank you.
[00:00] <jrib> dabbill: killing it may leave you with a broken dpkg database... what was it doing last?
[00:01] <unagi_> im not getting in map information on gpsdrive anymore anyone know why?
[00:01] <danand_> dabbill - ps -A | grep aptitude to get the PID of aptitude - then kill -9 [atitudes pid]
[00:01] <dsmith_> does turbotax work with ubuntu?
[00:01] <dabbill> i was installing some thing, and crashed my system, and sence then its been running at 100%
[00:01] <SniperFromHell> Does anyone know what HTTP cache is, and why it keeps starting up every half hour? Also, why do my torrent speeds on kTorrent throttle so much. Does this happen to anyone else with this specific program?
[00:02] <dsmith_> turbotax online that is
[00:02] <Green> LadyNikon thanks . dam i must get my eyes check out.
[00:02] <eelriver> top will tell you the pid. It's on the far left
[00:02] <Green> Love the "Purisa" font style
[00:02] <dsmith_> LadyNikon: Where you been at?
[00:02] <danand_> magick - cool :) - thought that was strange for a gigabit network. I can watch dvd movies on a samba box over wireless network
[00:02] <unagi_> no one knows anything about gpsdrive?
[00:03] <dabbill> sweet now both cores are at 0%
[00:03] <dabbill> thanks :)
[00:03] <LadyNikon> Green: :)
[00:04] <SniperFromHell> Does anyone know what HTTP cache is, and why it keeps starting up every half hour? Also, why do my torrent speeds on kTorrent throttle so much. Does this happen to anyone else with this specific program?
[00:04] <hou5ton> ok ... I have continued to research the issue with Ubuntu and webcam support in Skype.  Apparantly there needs to be an additional module compiled, but it is already present in SuSE and PCLinuxOS
[00:04] <Intertricity> Hey guys.. I installed my nvidia driver that was offered to me on installing 7.10.. do I need to install the driver directly from the nVidia site to get dual monitor?
[00:04] <Intertricity> I'm stuck with only one monitor atm
[00:04] <Bluey> can someone help me fix my /dev/sda2 error?
[00:05] <hou5ton> If I put Ubuntu back on this laptop, will someone help me compile a module.  :-)
[00:05] <KenSentMe> In a standard ubuntu installation there are folders in my home like Music Documents etc. Those are visible in the Places menu. How can i add folders to that list?
[00:05] <Green> Does anyone know if there's programs for linux to erase permanently or rewrite over the files on a hard drive ? OR EVEN FILES PRIVATE FILES???
[00:05] <AD7six> Hi. I'm getting this error sporadically (last time when trying to run vim "ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 6246, errno = 4" I've googled the error message but don't know what it means - and can't find a process with that pid could anyone offer advice on where to look for the problem? This machine has generally started to be slow is it possibly hardware (hard disk?) related?
[00:05] <danand_> Bluey - try to be a bit more specific ... whats the exact nature of the problem
[00:05] <SniperFromHell> KenSentMe: right click and edit menu.
[00:05] <jrib> KenSentMe: easy way: anything you bookmark in nautilus will be added there
[00:06] <LjL> Green: shred, wipe
[00:06] <SniperFromHell> that too.
[00:06] <notechyet> can someone tell me a good way to get the network going
[00:06] <SniperFromHell> Does anyone know what HTTP cache is, and why it keeps starting up every half hour? Also, why do my torrent speeds on kTorrent throttle so much. Does this happen to anyone else with this specific program?
[00:06] <KenSentMe> jrib, ah, cool. Didnt know that, thanks
[00:06] <Starnestommy> SniperFromHell: do your other torrent programs also experience throttling>
[00:07] <Green> LjL I though you still can recover files...
[00:07] <LjL> unagi_: no, i don't know about gpsdrive, i can only suggest checking out roadnav for another (vector-based) navigation program
[00:07] <Bluey> danand_ when i try to start up ubuntu the whole screen turns into what looks like a ocmmand prompt, with a bunch of numbers and words. at the end it says i have a /dev/sda2 error and the automatic file system check failed
[00:07] <Green> LjL is shred complete rewritten the files /hd and unable to recover ?
[00:07] <LjL> Green: after using shred or wipe? definitely not without expensive equipment
[00:07] <SniperFromHell> Starnestommy: I don't know. I've never had any other ones than kTorrent.
[00:07] <SniperFromHell> What are some good ones?
[00:07] <LjL> Green, used on ext3, both can be problematic
[00:07] <Starnestommy> SniperFromHell: I've heard some ISPs throttle bittorrent
[00:07] <LjL> Green: at least ext3 with some flavor of journal
[00:07] <SniperFromHell> I know it cant be my connection because i download from other servers at constant speeds
[00:08] <SniperFromHell> oh
[00:08] <LadyNikon> configure: error: Sufficiently new version of libasound not found.  I get this while trying to configure "btsco"
[00:08] <Green> Ljl so what u recommend "shred or wipe"?
[00:08] <lz7> Bluey: it maybe hardware fault or file system fault, you need to know what type of error you get, and examine your drive with smarmontools for example
[00:08] <SniperFromHell> Starnestommy: what program do you recommend?
[00:08] <SniperFromHell> also, how do i send a message to you that notifies someone, like you just did for me.
[00:09] <LjL> Green: probably equivalent
[00:09] <Starnestommy> SniperFromHell: I don't use bittorrent, so I wouldn't be sure.
[00:09] <danand_> Bluey - sorry no idea on that one - redirect your question to the whole channel
[00:09] <emitchlpd> is anyone using vpnc and network manager on a normal *wired* network connection?
[00:09] <lz7> Bluey: smartmontools
[00:09] <Starnestommy> SniperFromHell: say their nick in a message?
[00:09] <LjL> Green: wipe is more versatile
[00:09] <SniperFromHell> oh ok
[00:09] <SniperFromHell> so like
[00:09] <SniperFromHell> Starnestommy: sup ?
[00:09] <Bluey> lz7: how do i begin to do that?
[00:09] <Starnestommy> SniperFromHell: yes
[00:09] <Green> Ljl and where would i get this shred and wipe or both different programs
[00:09] <SniperFromHell> Cool, thanks.
[00:10] <SniperFromHell> Does anyone know what HTTP cache is, and why it keeps starting up every half hour?
[00:10] <LjL> !info shred | green
[00:10] <LjL> !info wipe | green
[00:10] <ubotu> green: Package shred does not exist in gutsy
[00:10] <ubotu> green: wipe (source: wipe): Secure file deletion. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.21-3 (gutsy), package size 42 kB, installed size 132 kB
[00:10] <LjL> Green: shred is installed by default
[00:10] <lz7> Bluey: you said error, may you be more specific what error, and do you have problems with your drive?
[00:10] <arnducky> Hey LadyNikon, if you don't get your sound issues solved this session, try to find Crimsum in here -- he's woot at sound problems (coder)
[00:11] <danand_> Ljl - are shred and wipe ok on ext3 filesystems?
[00:11] <Green> ljl shred? installed by default? where i don't see it
[00:11] <crusie> arnducky: does he have an answer or driver for the xfi card in 32 bit ubuntu ?
[00:11] <LjL> danand_: no
[00:11] <Bluey> lz7: my drive is fine. and i get 2 errors on start up. a /dev/sda2 error and that the auto file system check failed
[00:11] <LjL> danand_: at least not with some flavors of journalling
[00:11] <LjL> Green: ... try typing "shred" in a shell
[00:11] <SniperFromHell> Does anyone know what HTTP cache is, and why it keeps starting up every half hour?
[00:12] <Starnestommy> SniperFromHell: do you have squid or apache installed?
[00:12] <arnducky> crusie, i dunno, you can but ask -- but if anyone does...
[00:12] <Green> ljl nothing happen just told me to `shred --help and still nothing happen it show <
[00:12] <SniperFromHell> Starnestommy: Nope, neither.
[00:12] <lz7> Bluey: well, if everything is fine, you can just disable fsck from running, or run it manually, type man fsck for that
[00:12] <SniperFromHell> Starnestommy: At least I don't think.
[00:12] <LadyNikon> I need "checking for libasound headers version >= 1.0.3... not present.
[00:12] <LadyNikon> "
[00:12] <LjL> green, danand_: "In the case of ext3 file systems, the above disclaimer applies (and shred is thus of limited effectiveness) only in data=journal mode, which journals file  data in  addition  to  just  metadata.   In  both the data=ordered (default) and data=writeback modes, shred works as usual." from man shred
[00:12] <crusie> crimsun: you there dude ?
[00:12] <SniperFromHell> How do I check? (ive never installed them but maybe some other package did?)
[00:13] <arnducky> crusie, have you checked out launchpad and ubuntuforums?
[00:13] <Starnestommy> LadyNikon: I think you need libasound-dev
[00:13] <crusie> well creative haven't put out a 32 bit driver yet
[00:13] <LjL> Green: err yeah, it means you need to provide it with arguments. have you never used command-line programs before? i'll give you some pointers.
[00:13] <LjL> !man > green    (green, see the private message from Ubotu)
[00:13] <LjL> !cli > green    (green, see the private message from Ubotu)
[00:13] <Starnestommy> LadyNikon: er, libasound2-dev
[00:13] <crusie> arnducky: meaning I'd be stuck with oss
[00:13] <crusie> instead of alsa
[00:13] <arnducky> eww
[00:13] <arnducky> or <shudder> SDL
[00:14] <LadyNikon> Starnestommy: yay its working
[00:14] <crusie> arnducky: and I must say... my few times with oss tells me that I don't really need it ^
[00:14] <arnducky> crusie, join us in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[00:15] <crusie> arnducky: about to reboot I'll go there afterwards
[00:16] <LjL> !away > Veinor|away    (Veinor|away, see the private message from Ubotu)
[00:16] <AD7six> Any hints on what "ICE default IO error handler" means?
[00:16] <Green> ljl when I shred the certain files would they be unrecoverable forever?
[00:18] <gsa1> Hi guys
[00:18] <amenado> Green-> lest you have a backup
[00:19] <echosystm> guys, quick question
[00:19] <echosystm> the version of fluxbox in the repository is outdated
[00:19] <echosystm> is there any way for me to get 1.0 without compiling it myself?
[00:19] <echosystm> also, why arent packages automatically updated in the repository?
[00:20] <lz7> echosystm: add more repositories, backports, hardy reps etc
[00:20] <jrib> !timebasedreleases > echosystm (read the private message from ubotu)
[00:20] <gsa1> I buyed a noteook manufactured here at Argentina, and I've some problems, sound don't works, nor webcam, nor hibernation, were are the first places were to invesigate? (web sites I meand)
[00:20] <gsa1> meant
[00:20] <jrib> lz7: adding "hardy reps" is likely to result in a broken system
[00:21] <Green> amenado, ljl so its impossible to recover once i shred the files?
[00:21] <dstanek> what is the best tool to analyze http traffic - wireshark seems too confusing
[00:21] <lz7> jrib: you may add hardy reps for installing one program and after that disable them
[00:22] <jrib> lz7: no, that's not safe
[00:22] <amenado> Green-> improbable to recover it
[00:22] <bofh80> hi people, i'm having memory issues with wine, due to this i noticed i have only a 1.4gig swap partition, but i have upgraded to 2gig of memory, would this cause problems? do i even still need a SWAP partition?
[00:22] <danand_> Green - what file system are you using
[00:22] <LjL> Green: no. even assuming your filesystem is not journaled, someone with the right equipment can still perform data recovery. there are companies specializing in that.
[00:22] <teo-> how can i change eth0 to eth1 ????
[00:23] <amenado> teo-  via udev, but am not that familiar of how to do it yet
[00:23] <MichaelSammels> Can some admin dude please start a private chat with me?
[00:23] <LjL> MichaelSammels: admin?
[00:23] <lz7> jrib: well i think this is more question of canonical support politics, than technical side of things
[00:23] <MichaelSammels> Well, someone on the team. ((Ubuntu))
[00:23] <teo-> amenado, ok.. i try but not working
[00:24] <Infusion> anyone know how to get MYSQL WOEKING?
[00:24] <LjL> MichaelSammels, if you're looking for the operators of this channel, that's #ubuntu-ops - if you're looking for someone else, it depends
[00:24] <ag0g0girl> hey babes
[00:24] <ag0g0girl> how is
[00:24] <Green> danand_ NTFS for my storage
[00:24] <Infusion> #ubuntu-ops
[00:24]  * LjL points ag0g0girl to the channel topic
[00:24] <jrib> lz7: not really, it depends on the package.  Dependency issues are a big possibility.  That's the reason for the backports repository
[00:24] <MichaelSammels> LjL: Someone who is admin to something in here ((not support)): http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[00:25] <danand_> MichaelSammels - just post your question here and someone will try to help
[00:25] <MichaelSammels> I want to join the Ubuntu Team.
[00:25] <Infusion> ite people
[00:25] <LjL> !member > MichaelSammels    (MichaelSammels, see the private message from Ubotu)
[00:25] <Green> lgl "file system journaled" ??
[00:25] <Green> ljl "file system journaled" ??
[00:25] <Infusion> i have 51 servers and 100 websites
[00:25] <LjL> Green, read shred's man page.
[00:25] <LjL> green, as i quoted earlier, "In the case of ext3 file systems, the above disclaimer applies (and shred is thus of limited effectiveness) only in data=journal mode, which journals file  data in  addition  to  just  metadata.   In  both the data=ordered (default) and data=writeback modes, shred works as usual." from man shred
[00:26] <comboniner82-3> http://100nonudes.com
[00:26] <danand_> Ljl,Green - if the file system is journalled pretty sure neither shred nor wipe will work
[00:27] <charlie> jai
[00:27] <renfrew> anyone have any experience with billionton Bluetooth adapters and gutsy?
[00:27] <Infusion> can i be channel op please?
[00:27] <MichaelSammels> LjL: Does it cost to become a member?
[00:27] <LjL> !guidelines > Infusion    (Infusion, see the private message from Ubotu)
[00:27] <Starnestommy> Infusion: the short answer is no
[00:28] <LjL> MichaelSammels: no
[00:28] <Infusion> why not?
[00:28] <LjL> Infusion: read the link
[00:28] <zlaja> can some1 help me?
[00:28] <Infusion> ive got 100 irc chanels
[00:28] <refefer> Question for you all: I did a LAMP install on 7.10 and decided arbitrarily to install the desktop as well.  Now, 2 gbs of desktop and desktop applications later, I want to remove it.
[00:28] <LjL> !ask | zlaja
[00:28] <zlaja> i wana make xp but i cant :S
[00:28] <ubotu> zlaja: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[00:28] <aquo> Infusion: you can be channel op
[00:28] <Infusion> yh
[00:28] <renfrew> anyone have any experience with billionton Bluetooth adapters and gutsy?
[00:29] <zlaja> when i start xp and format it than after first reboot it says "error loading operating system"
[00:29] <LjL> zlaja: uhm, and this has to do with ubuntu because?
[00:29] <refefer> Can I just apt-get uninstall ubuntu-desktop and it will remove all the associated desktop software as well?
[00:29] <LjL> refefer: no
[00:29] <Starnestommy> zlaja: if you need windows support, go to ##windows
[00:29] <LjL> !ubuntu-desktop > refefer    (refefer, see the private message from Ubotu)
[00:29] <zlaja> cuz i dont know to use ubuntu :S
[00:29] <wil> Hi... I have a problem.... I started my pc with a KVM and I was on a diffrent channel, now Ubuntu keeps booting in 640x480 and I can not change it back... I have tried changing it and doing detect, but nothing is working :(
[00:30] <LjL> zlaja: not following you
[00:30] <zlaja> what?
[00:30] <crusie> anyone has had experience with unbuntu not booting post install ?
[00:30] <LjL> zlaja, you've asked a Windows question, this is an Ubuntu support channel
[00:30] <rdoursenaud> Hi
[00:30] <crusie> I mean - everything installs correctly from what I can see
[00:31] <LjL> !install > crusie    (crusie, see the private message from Ubotu)
[00:31] <aquo> is there any reason to prefer dput over dupload or vice versa?
[00:31] <LjL> crusie: common thing to try is to disable acpi
[00:31] <crusie> LjL what\s acpi_
[00:31] <refefer> hmm, that's a shame.  I only plan on ssh-ing into the box so I don't need the extra bloat.  Is there a list of packages installed from an apt-get install ubuntu-desktop that I can get and manually uninstall each?
[00:32] <_alf_> !ubuntu-desktop > _alf_
[00:32] <LjL> crusie: don't make me attempt to explain that... :) just try booting with the "noacpi" option or the "acpi=off" option. see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions  for how to do that
[00:33] <wil> Hi... I have a problem.... I started my pc with a KVM and I was on a diffrent channel, now Ubuntu keeps booting in 640x480 and I can not change it back... I have tried changing it and doing detect, but nothing is working :(
[00:33] <lulzturtle> could someone kindly help me connect to my ubuntu server at work?
[00:33] <Green> ljl example "shred -v -z -u -f lifehacker.txt" it works but is this way the best way to overwriting the file and add with zero?
[00:34] <vix> hi, I need some help with java applets in firefox, im using Gutsy 64bits.
[00:34] <vix> hope I can find some help here, been struggling with this in many hours.
[00:34] <lulzturtle> I guess I need to figure out my external IP at work and maybe test to see if it has the right ports open?
[00:34] <LjL> Green: the more iterations you make it do, the lower the chances of recovery. assuming your filesystem is not journalled again.
[00:34] <jrib> vix: why are you not using 32bit if you care about things like java applets?
[00:34] <InspectorCluseau> no java applets with 64 bits
[00:34] <Green> ljl my hard drive are set only ntfs and ext3. so i can just leave it as default shred?
[00:34] <tehdave> I'm having issues with flash...anythink I try to load is
[00:34] <scrambledegg> vix: what have you tried so far ?
[00:34] <crusie> LjL it seems my first boot after install stops - it's still detecting usb things tho. tried to dc a couple and setting them ind again all showed on screen in recovery mode... I can type there but it doesn't accept commands
[00:35] <tehdave> I'm having issues with flash...anything I try to load is choppy...
[00:35] <Green> ljl nope all my hard drive are not part or set to "jFs"
[00:35] <LjL> Green: i really cannot say if shred will work properly on NTFS. on ext3, again, it will work if not in data=journal mode
[00:35] <vix> jrib, i have 4GB in memory, and also 64 bit CPU, u think i have problems because of the 64 bit OS ?
[00:35] <TBag> hi all, I know it's the wrong place to ask this but is there any channel dealing with finance on this server plz ?
[00:35] <crusie> LjL it's when the "line" should be starting to run across the screen
[00:36] <LjL> crusie: try those options
[00:36] <tehdave> Of the flash plugins for Ubuntu, which is the most stable/best performance? (x86 version)
[00:36] <vix> scrambledegg, many guides, like installing many packages, some linkings to .so librarys. my java is running fine, not just in firefox.
[00:36] <jrib> vix: sun does not provide a 64bit version of the java plugin so yes.  There are workarounds, but it's a pain compared to using 32bit ubuntu.
[00:36] <LjL> tehdave: Flash.
[00:36] <jrib> !flash64 > vix (read the private message from ubotu)
[00:36] <wil> what is the terminal command to change res of the screen?
[00:36] <scrambledegg> vix: so other java stuff like azureus work ?
[00:36] <LjL> !pm | Darkmystere
[00:36] <ubotu> Darkmystere: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[00:37] <tehdave> LjL: I meant between the nonfree plugin or the Gnash SWF player, etc.
[00:37] <LjL> !xconfig > wil    (wil, see the private message from Ubotu) perhaps this is what you're thinking about
[00:37] <echosystm> can anyone tell me what distros have kde4?
[00:37] <LjL> tehdave: err, yeah indeed, the nonfree plugin is "Flash". others are "Gnash" and "SWF Player".
[00:37] <Darkmystere> LjL, i just messaged you because i thought it was kinda offtopic..
[00:37] <LjL> tehdave: so, my answer is the nonfree plugin anyway
[00:37] <vix> scrambledegg, yes azureus works. and also netbeans
[00:37] <vix> jrib, okay thank you.. i will try it.
[00:38] <Darkmystere> Ok should i burn Bactrack to a CD or DVD because it says the file is 701MB and my CD;s only hold 700MB..
[00:38] <LjL> Darkmystere: then ask in -offtopic... i haven't the slightest idea to tell the trust. it might fit. i don't know, i burn a CD a year or so
[00:38] <Darkmystere> i did they havent answerd..
[00:38] <scrambledegg> vix: do you have this symlink in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins: /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so
[00:38] <pocketdrummer> I have a question for everyone. Is there a "killer app" that Ubuntu or linux has that no other OS has?
[00:38] <tehdave> Alright...let's fix the question: Of the available SWF plugins, which is the most stable/best quality?
[00:39] <LjL> tehdave: flash. i.e. flashplugin-nonfree.
[00:39] <tehdave> thanks
[00:39] <echosystm> no pocketdrummer. most good linux apps have been ported to windows
[00:39] <crusie> LjL what will I gain (or loose) by running the noapi command_
[00:39] <echosystm> eg. open office, gimp, etc.
[00:39] <Green> ljl is there any other program for linux to overwriting with  pseudorandom data, Peter Gutmann's, etc. OR works best for NTFS ??
[00:39] <Lr5_> pocketdrummer: Even if there was, you could probably use it on cygwin anyway
[00:39] <yellowdog> ciao a tutti
[00:39] <InspectorCluseau> pocketdrummer, it's what Ubuntu and Linux DOESN"T have....trojans...viruses....etc
[00:39] <Green> ljl like those options
[00:39] <scrambledegg> vix: and the name was libjavaplugin.so :)   ?
[00:40] <brain2> I've seen 2 linux viruses
[00:40] <scrambledegg> vix: maybe its lib64 for you
[00:40] <vix> scrambledegg, not now, i had it before but it was buggy.
[00:40] <brain2> RST.B and OSF
[00:40] <LjL> crusie: you know what, i never really quite understood that, i'll have to admit. especially, i've never quite understood what (if anything) you will lose with the "noapic" option, which is another that you should try
[00:40] <crusie> "another" ?
[00:40] <echosystm> pocketdrummer: the reason you use linux is because you are a tinkering geek, you want awesome security, or you are running a server - windows cant really compete here
[00:40] <vix> scrambledegg, it was libjavaplugin.so for me yes.
[00:40] <LjL> Green, all programs will work equally well or equally badly as far as NTFS goes. it depends on how the filesystem works, and i haven't really a clue
[00:40] <scrambledegg> vix: you're using gcj  ?
[00:40] <crusie> LjL wasn't that the one you wanted me to use?
[00:41] <LjL> crusie: no. i suggested "noacpi" and "acpi=off". now i'm suggesting "noapic"
[00:41] <danand__> I hate my isp x(
[00:41] <vix> scrambledegg, i guess no, i dont know what it is
[00:41] <brain2> So I rebooted today and now my ctrl keys don't work.. Am I the only one?  I probably am.. gah
[00:41] <pocketdrummer> Well, I guess to answer my own question, maybe Synaptic and the repository system is the killer app for linux? I can't think of another OS that has it.
[00:41] <Lr5_> LjL: How about "irqpoll"? No idea what you are talking about, though
[00:41] <echosystm> macosx has something similar pocketdrummer
[00:41] <scrambledegg> vix: its a GNU implementation of java, and its very buggy with applets
[00:41] <pocketdrummer> really? What's it called in OS X?
[00:42] <echosystm> the only reason linux has synaptic is because it is a pain in the ass to install anything without it
[00:42] <scrambledegg> vix: try issuing:   update-alternatives --config java
[00:42] <jscinoz> apt-get equiv in osx is ports
[00:42] <echosystm> in windows, you can just get an exe and install it
[00:42] <pocketdrummer> echosystm: That's true.
[00:42] <ethan961> aptitude!
[00:42] <rdoursenaud> I have a strange problem with gnome-panel. I can't move or reorganize my panels. Right click menu only shows "Help" and "About".  This probem only appears on my amd64 desktop. Searched the web and found nothing relevant. Can someone help?
[00:42] <echosystm> in linux, there are millions of dependencies and packages
[00:42] <jscinoz> they do sudo port install proggy
[00:42] <aquo> pocketdrummer: same mechanism is available for windows too
[00:42] <echosystm> youd have to be insane to download them all manually
[00:43] <pocketdrummer> there's a repository system for windows too? Wow, where have I been? lol
[00:43] <Green> ljl Can i use eraser the http://www.heidi.ie/eraser/download.php
[00:43] <Green> ljl on linux?
[00:43] <aquo> pocketdrummer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Package_management_system#Windows
[00:43] <vix> scrambledegg, okay, now i can choose java version.. which one should i use?
[00:44] <scrambledegg> vix: trye choosing sun java
[00:44] <aquo> pocketdrummer: i never have tested those, but i know windows-admins who use some of them (and also commercial ones)
[00:44] <danand__> echosystm - I remember hours of trying to resolve dependancy issues using rpm package manager on Redhat 6 ....
[00:44] <soldats> sunjava6
[00:44] <scrambledegg> vix: you got the package sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-plugin right ?
[00:44] <jrib> scrambledegg: the plugin does not exist on 64bit
[00:44] <Jangari> does anyone know how to install the mp3 libraries for sox?
[00:45] <scrambledegg> jrib: really ?
[00:45] <vix> scrambledegg, yes i have them installed.
[00:45] <MrPiracy> i am trying to set my /home folder back to where it was ... the folder exists (located in /home/tma) but when i type "cd ~/home"  in terminal it says "cannot find /home/tma/home"
[00:45] <LjL> Lr5_, crusie: i'd say to put them in order from least crippling to most, "noapic", "noacpi", "acpi=off", "irqpoll". noapic just means that the "advanced programmable interrupt controller" that's on newer computers won't be used, shouldn't be a big deal. "noacpi" and "acpi=off" mean that (part of?) ACPI won't be used, i assume that might impact power saving and such things, and i don't know what the difference is between the two. "irqpoll" means that some
[00:45] <LjL> relatively expensive checks are done on interrupts. i don't really know very precisely at all, i just know they're common options used to troubleshoot boot problems
[00:45] <scrambledegg> jrib: not so sure about that
[00:45] <scrambledegg> vix: ok then just try to update the alternatives and see if that works out
[00:45] <LjL> Green: seems like clearly a windows program to me
[00:45] <scrambledegg> *-s
[00:45] <robdig> MrPiracy: thats probably because ~ = /home/tma
[00:46] <Jangari> try cd ~, MrPiracy
[00:46] <jrib> scrambledegg: umm, ok?
[00:46] <jrib> scrambledegg: check packages.ubuntu.com if you wish
[00:46] <scrambledegg> jrib: he says he has the packages installed
[00:46] <vix> scrambledegg, did u got my PM ?
[00:46] <Green> ljl is there any other programs works best or just as good as shred for ntfs>?
[00:46] <|david|> hello
[00:46] <MrPiracy> Jangari: ops, my bad ok
[00:46] <scrambledegg> vix: dont think so
[00:47] <jrib> scrambledegg: then he is not using 64bit
[00:47] <MrPiracy> anyone could tell me a command line to empty recycle bin?
[00:47] <nickrud> My desktop would be complete with a 64bit java plugin (not)
[00:47] <vix> jrib, what are you talking about ?
[00:47] <spudgunner> In gnome, how many different places are there to set programs to run on login?  I've removed my compiz-fusion from System->Prefs->Sessions, but I can't seem to make it go away.
[00:47] <LjL> Green, i already answered best i could
[00:48] <scrambledegg> jrib: sun-java6-bin is for amd64 i386
[00:48] <jrib> scrambledegg: *plugin*
[00:48] <spudgunner> MrPiracy:  I usually delete the contents of the various .Trash-* directories at the root of the mount point
[00:48] <scrambledegg> jrib: ya okay then but firefox usually works with 32bit bindings
[00:49] <scrambledegg> jrib: i mean shared libraries
[00:49] <jrib> scrambledegg: not by magic though :)
[00:49] <MrPiracy> spudgunner: there's an error with my recycle bin, it won't complete emptying
[00:49] <scrambledegg> jrib: no by automaticz0r
[00:49] <MrPiracy> spudgunner: where's the location of the main trash bin?
[00:49] <scrambledegg> jrib: or maybe not :)
[00:49] <scrambledegg> jrib: nspluginwrapper is currently broken i think
[00:50] <vix> still it doesnt work really with java in FF.
[00:50] <jrib> scrambledegg: :) I just wanted to make sure you understood the plugin package is not available on 64 bit so the you have to follow the !flash64 instructions.  I had to go through this
[00:50] <vix> when i test an applet its a red cross in the upper corner.
[00:50] <spudgunner> MrPiracy:  try "rm -Rf /.Trash-USERNAME/*"
[00:50] <danand__> what?? - apparently I just signed off!
[00:50] <crusie> LjL I tried doing as you said - still no avail
[00:50] <spudgunner> MrPiracy:  and replace USERNAME with your login name
[00:51] <Jangari> !pastebin
[00:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[00:51] <scrambledegg> jrib: i really dont get why a plugin isnt crossplatform while the whole JVM is
[00:51] <vix> jrib, one question, I need to install 32bit firefox ?
[00:51] <MrPiracy> spudgunner:  it says no such file or directory
[00:51] <Scunizi> spudgunner, MrPiracy you may have to add sudo to the beginning of that line.
[00:52] <spudgunner> MrPiracy:  sorry, its "rm -Rf /home/USERNAME/.Trash/*"
[00:52] <scrambledegg> vix: 32bit ff worked flawlessly for me
[00:52] <oreomike> MrPiracy: if you use 7.10 like me, your trash should be in ~/.Trash/
[00:52] <spudgunner> MrPiracy:  oreomike has it right
[00:52] <jrib> scrambledegg: blackdown java had a 64bit plugin.  The bug on sun's tracker is several years old.  They just don't care
[00:52] <scrambledegg> vix: with flash and everything
[00:52] <MrPiracy> spudgunner: :-) it worked, thanks
[00:52] <jrib> vix: yeah, the wiki page walks you through it
[00:52] <spudgunner> MrPiracy:  np
[00:53] <kibb> hi are the packages i download with apt-get or synaptic kept on my hdd somewhere? i would like to save myself the download for my other machine
[00:53] <spudgunner> In gnome, how many different places are there to set programs to run on login?  I've removed my compiz-fusion from System->Prefs->Sessions, but I can't seem to make it go away. Any other suggestions?
[00:53] <vix> scrambledegg, okay, i got flash working in 64bit, so I can at least watch some youtubes now :D
[00:53] <witepa> hey im trying to install ubuntu gutsy on core2duo and i get "ata5.01: exception Emask.....action 0x2 frozen
[00:53] <nickrud> kibb: /var/cache/apt/archives
[00:53] <Phildo> heyas - having some grub dramas, would someone mind lending a hand in pm, theres a bit of situation explaining to do..
[00:53] <scrambledegg> vix: :P
[00:53] <wil> Hi all, I have just got my screen res back to normal, but now non of the windows have a titlebar :( how do I get it back?
[00:53] <kibb> is everything there?
[00:54] <|david|> spudgunner: make sure you disable it in appearence or it will keep starting it
[00:54] <spudgunner> |david|:  done that too
[00:54] <kibb> cool cheers nickrud
[00:54] <|david|> hmmmm
[00:54] <jw144000> Can anyone help me to reformat my external hard drive to be able to be used in Windows?
[00:55] <nickrud> kibb: if they're on a network together, you might consider a proxy, like aptproxy
[00:55] <MrPiracy> jw144000: what's the problem?
[00:55] <scrambledegg> jw144000:  mkfs.vfat /dev/sd*
[00:55] <kibb> i was thinking along the lines of a burned cd... its only going to be used once or twice thanks again
[00:55] <jw144000> MrPiracy: I installed Gutsy Gibbon on the external hard drive, but now I'm considering a partition for it on my internal hard drive. Because I installed Gutsy on the external hard drive, Windows isn't recognizing it.
[00:55] <oreomike> have to install an app from its source, but need kernel headers, is there a package for that?
[00:55] <BiLL_Yates> Let's talk about something else!!! Let's talk about Vista....!
[00:56] <jw144000> scrambledegg: Where do I enter that?
[00:56] <mjw-> !offtopic | BiLL_Yates
[00:56] <ubotu> BiLL_Yates: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:56] <nickrud> oreomike: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[00:56] <silverblade> Im trying to compile a 32bit app on a 64bit install of Ubuntu. I get an 'ld' error: "skipping incompatible /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.1.3/libgcc.a when searching for -lgcc"
[00:56] <spudgunner> |david|, do you know file-wise *where* setting those settings actually makes compiz start... I mean it has to be in some script somewhere...
[00:56] <silverblade> i assume its finding the 64bit version of that lib. how can i install the 32bit one
[00:56] <MrPiracy> jw144000: you want to access your linux partition from windows?
[00:56] <|david|> nickrud: you beat me to it!!!!
[00:57] <nickrud> |david|: it's a text replace for me , lheaders :)
[00:57] <|david|> spudgunner: init.d
[00:57] <scrambledegg> jw144000: umm.. in a terminal.. remember to run it as superuser
[00:57] <jw144000> MrPiracy: No, I want to be able to access my external hard drive in Windows again. Currently, only Linux will recognize it.
[00:57] <Montego> Is there a way to share more mem with my geforce 5200 vid card other than the 32mb allowed in the bios?
[00:57] <dr-raku> jw144000: if you are in windows right now, you can use disk management or fdisk to erase the partitions on the external drive and create other partitions (then format them)
[00:57] <MrPiracy> jw144000: is your external hd partitioned? any fat/ntfs partition in it?
[00:57] <|david|> jw144000: you have to format it to fat32 or ntfs
[00:58] <scrambledegg> jw144000: i wouldnt go for ntfs
[00:58] <nickrud> spudgunner: create the file ~/.config/compiz/compizconfig/disable , that will stop compiz
[00:58] <oreomike> jw144000 or you can get the ext2fs driver for windows
[00:58] <mjw-> jw144000 mkdosfs -F 32 /dev/XXX
[00:58] <oreomike> its made by the same people that made putty
[00:58] <jw144000> MrPiracy: Currently, I have no fat32 or ntfs partitions on my external hard drive.
[00:58] <mjw-> probably have to use sudo too
[00:58] <MrPiracy> oreomike: where do i get this driver?
[00:58] <gigaclon> im using the CUPS web interface at localhost:631 and when i try to add a printer, it pops a username/password, I enter my username and password and it rejects it
[00:58] <gigaclon> only account
[00:58] <|david|> scrambledegg: true enough, some people still like their win-dos though
[00:58] <jw144000> I'm in Windows at the moment
[00:59] <xSnOoPyx> hey can anyone help me out, i accidently set the permissions of /etc to 440 yes i know im stupid PLEASE SOMEONE HELP ME, im in the ubuntu livecd because ubuntu wont boot
[00:59] <dr-raku> jw144000, then go to disk management
[00:59] <mjw-> jw144000 "Disk Management" in "computer management" should be able to see the drive, and you can reformat it from there
[00:59] <MrPiracy> jw144000: if you don't have partitions windows can read (f.e.: fat, fat32, ntfs), windows will always tell you there's no partitions in that drive
[00:59] <gtt> i installed a new hard drive today, and i'm confused by the output of "df -h" ?
[00:59] <oreomike> MrPiracy, google? ;-)   http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd
[00:59] <spudgunner> nickrud:  thanks, hopefully that will fix it
[00:59] <dr-raku> jw144000, or simply use fdisk
[00:59] <scrambledegg> |david|: its just those problems with ntfs and linux
[00:59] <|david|> xSnOoPyx: cd /
[01:00] <giantmidget> hello. on #fluxbox ive been told that the ubuntu package for fluxbox is broken (is was trying to find out why my iconbar images are all garbled). is there a remedy for that?
[01:00] <jw144000> dr-raku: I tried accessing "Disk Management", and I can't for some reason.
[01:00] <dr-raku> jw144000, disk management is in the administrative tools (control panel)
[01:00] <xSnOoPyx> uh huh
[01:00] <scrambledegg> |david|: ubuntu hardy screwed up my windows partition yesterday
[01:00] <xSnOoPyx> Then |david| ?
[01:00] <|david|> xSnOoPyx: then chmod 777 /etc
[01:00] <vix> scrambledegg and jrib: thank you for your help... java works flawlessy in firefox32 now :)
[01:00] <|david|> xSnOoPyx: then chmod 777 etc
[01:00] <Phildo> |david|: he'd want to mount it first
[01:00] <scrambledegg> jw144000: dont go for ext2fs either
[01:00] <|david|> sorry
[01:00] <dr-raku> jw144000, then you could erase the ext partitions from fdisk
[01:00] <Montego>  Is there a way to share more mem with my geforce 5200 vid card other than the 32mb allowed in the bios?
[01:00] <scrambledegg> jw14400: FAT32 is safest..
[01:00] <|david|> Phildo: true
[01:00] <xSnOoPyx> wait no
[01:00] <astro76> xSnOoPyx: 755
[01:00] <nickrud> xSnOoPyx: you are in a world of hurt, there's a lot of dirs and files in there with specialized permissions
[01:00] <scrambledegg> vix: np
[01:01] <xSnOoPyx> no the thing is is that, im in livecd right now
[01:01] <astro76> xSnOoPyx: yes like nickrud said, if you recursively changed permissions, you're in trouble
[01:01] <Phildo> nickrud: i doubt he used -R :>
[01:01] <xSnOoPyx> i cant boot into ubuntu
[01:01]  * nickrud can only hope
[01:01] <xSnOoPyx> yes i recursively changed htem
[01:01] <Phildo> haha
[01:01] <xSnOoPyx> it worked 777
[01:01] <gtt> can someone explain to me why my /home partition has a size of 449gb, used space of 199mb, and free space of 426gb ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55429/
[01:01] <xSnOoPyx> but sudo didnt
[01:01] <cy__> hello
[01:01] <xSnOoPyx> so gosh darn it
[01:01] <Phildo> not cool
[01:01] <xSnOoPyx> anyone know what to do in this situation?
[01:01] <Draicone> su doesn't seem to be working for me -- I know my root password, and I can sudo -i, I just can't su
[01:02] <Draicone> Any ideas?
[01:02] <nickrud> xSnOoPyx: you will need to reinstall, it would take days to repair that
[01:02] <Phildo> Draicone: theyre not the same thing
[01:02] <nickrud> xSnOoPyx: of hunting down the right permissions, etc
[01:02] <Draicone> Phildo: Err... what does su do?
[01:02] <xSnOoPyx> oh gotcha.
[01:02] <xSnOoPyx> but uh
[01:02] <Phildo> Draicone: actually changes your user to the real 'root'
[01:02] <mjw-> !sudo | Draicone
[01:02] <ubotu> Draicone: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[01:02] <xSnOoPyx> what about all my settings and files?
[01:02] <scrambledegg> Draicone: su asks for the root password, which ubuntu doesnt have by default
[01:02] <nickrud> xSnOoPyx: do you have a separate home partition?
[01:02] <|david|> Draicone: it switches your user to another in the terminal
[01:02] <Phildo> Draicone: whereas sudo keeps your user, but gives you root permissions.
[01:02] <xSnOoPyx> what do you mean?
[01:02] <xSnOoPyx> yes
[01:03] <Phildo> Draicone: thus 'sudo' root :
[01:03] <Phildo> :>
[01:03] <xSnOoPyx> "/home" if thats what you mean
[01:03] <|david|> use su like this- su USERNAME
[01:03] <nickrud> xSnOoPyx: then when you reinstall, tell the installer not to format your home partition and all your settings (except for the stuff in etc) will be kept
[01:03] <LadyNikon> anyone run though this yet? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75978&highlight=bluetooth+headset
[01:03] <xSnOoPyx> gotrcha
[01:03] <xSnOoPyx> and where does it come to that
[01:03] <xSnOoPyx> ?
[01:03] <Draicone> scrambledegg: I'm pretty sure I set the root password manually at one point
[01:03] <nickrud> xSnOoPyx: during the partitioning phase
[01:03] <xSnOoPyx> ah
[01:03] <xSnOoPyx> okay im on step 7
[01:04] <xSnOoPyx> sorry
[01:04] <|david|> that will switch the user to your user as ROOT priviledges, and it'll work
[01:04] <xSnOoPyx> step 4
[01:04] <xSnOoPyx> i choose manual partitioning?
[01:04] <Draicone> Phildo: So what password is sudo -i asking me for?
[01:04] <nickrud> xSnOoPyx: yes
[01:04] <scrambledegg> Draicone: set it again :)   sudo passwd root
[01:04] <jw144000> dr-raku: I'm in Disk Management, but Windows still isn't recognizing the drive; I don't see the drive letter.
[01:04] <Phildo> Draicone: your user password.
[01:04] <xSnOoPyx> right
[01:04] <scrambledegg> Draicone: but i dont recommend it
[01:04] <xSnOoPyx> and now, how do i specify
[01:04] <nickrud> xSnOoPyx: I don't do a lot of installs, so I can't really walk you through the exact commands
[01:04] <Phildo> Draicone: as your user has been allowed (in /etc/sudoers) to use sudo root.
[01:04] <xSnOoPyx> oh
[01:05] <nickrud> xSnOoPyx: plus, I use the alternate install when I do :)
[01:05] <mjw-> jw144000 Windows should still be able to see the disk, even if it's in an unrecognized format.
[01:05] <Phildo> Draicone: all that auth is for, is to make sure you are authorised as that user. (and someone hasnt stolen your term etc)
[01:05] <xSnOoPyx> partition is ext3 right ?
[01:05] <jarred> you can do sudo su if you want to become root in terminal without having to keep typing sudo
[01:05] <m0u5e> anyone know what the gtk2 dev files are called?
[01:05] <xSnOoPyx> thats what type it is ?
[01:05] <jarred> prolly like gtk2-devel
[01:05] <jarred> or gtk-dev
[01:05] <jarred> ot somtething
[01:05] <gtt> jarred: i think "su -" will also work instead.
[01:05] <Dr_willis> sudo -s or sudo -i  :)
[01:05] <jw144000> mjw: I see it now. So where do I go from here?
[01:06] <LjL> gtt: uh? no, it won't, as there is no valid root password
[01:06] <Phildo> just use sudo -s
[01:06] <bad_cables> anyone use muddleftp >?
[01:06] <Phildo> :>
[01:06] <mjw-> jw144000 try right clicking it or something, should give you a format option.
[01:06] <LjL> !rootshell
[01:06] <ubotu> Using !sudo with single commands is preferable in most circumstances. However, if you really need a root shell, use « sudo -i » (other variants of this commands are redundant and/or potentially dangerous)
[01:06] <gtt> ah..
[01:06] <nickrud> sudo -i , be a real root
[01:06] <bad_cables> im having a problem... i get err 503 invalid password
[01:06] <gtt> learn soemthing all the time
[01:06] <Phildo> ;) get a real root, sudo -i
[01:06] <bad_cables> i set the password tons of times with mudpass
[01:06] <Draicone> Ah, got it. Thanks Phildo, scrambledegg, |david|
[01:06] <xSnOoPyx> nickrud, is that right ?
[01:06] <nickrud> xSnOoPyx: yes
[01:07] <bad_cables> muddleftp?
[01:07] <m0u5e> nvm i found it
[01:07] <MrKeuner> hi, I am having lockups on my thinkpad r52 1849-4wu laptop. It should not be related to video card(ATI Card) driver since I freeze occurs both when on fglrx and on free software driver. It should not be related to wireless driver because it freezes when it is hard connected, too. After freeze I booted with an Ubuntu live CD and tarred the /var/log folder. But inspecting the logs I could not see anything interesting. Can Anybody help me/assist me tr
[01:07] <MrKeuner> acking this problem, please?
[01:07] <MrPiracy> what's the path to the file where system folders are located (Desktop, downloads, music, ...)?
[01:07] <nickrud> xSnOoPyx: that is, if you mean ext3. Do not do anything to the partition that /home is on, except identify it as /home
[01:07] <mjw-> MrPiracy /home/$USERNAME ... aka "~"
[01:07] <LadyNikon> bah
[01:08] <rdoursenaud> ok forget my previous question, it was locked. unlocked it in gconf-editor
[01:08] <jarred> is there any way of converting ntfs to ext3 without loosing dat
[01:08] <nickrud> jarred: no
[01:08] <MrPiracy> mjw-: no, I want the configuration file ubuntu uses to get these paths
[01:08] <scrambledegg> has anyone tried out the new version of truecrypt ?
[01:08] <scrambledegg> which has a gui btw
[01:08] <jarred> whats the difference between ext2 vs ext3
[01:09] <jarred> and fat32 vs ext3
[01:09] <hon> what is ubuntube? :D
[01:09] <hentaixp> How can I remove my ubuntu;s user password?
[01:09] <Phildo> jarred: journaling
[01:09] <jarred> whats journaling
[01:09] <oreomike> you can't remove a password, but you can have it auto-login as that user
[01:09] <Skunkwaffle> anyone know any good video editing software?
[01:09] <xSnOoPyx> nickrud, it wont let me continue the installation,
[01:09] <Phildo> lack of it means lots of errors when you dont shutdown cleanly
[01:09] <hentaixp> jarred, I suggest wikipedia
[01:09] <mjw-> MrPiracy beats me, not sure if that's configurable with a simple file or not.
[01:09] <nickrud> jarred: journalling between 2 and 3, and max file size (2gb limit to vfat) as a minimum diff
[01:10] <nickrud> xSnOoPyx: I do not know the live cd at all
[01:10] <vix> jarred, fat32 is an old file system that was used in windows OS but also works in many linux systems like ubuntu.
[01:10] <MrPiracy> what's the path to the configuration file ubuntu uses to find system folders like Desktop, downloads, music, ...?
[01:10] <hentaixp>  nickrud 4GB on fat32
[01:10] <jaume> oo
[01:10] <jaume> oo
[01:10] <mjw-> !files | MrPiracy
[01:10] <ubotu> MrPiracy: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[01:10] <jaume> ii
[01:10] <jaume> kk
[01:10] <xSnOoPyx> Darnit.
[01:10] <jaume> ll
[01:10] <jaume> kk
[01:10] <jaume> jj
[01:11] <FloodBot3> jaume: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:11] <hentaixp> why not, my windows user doesn't need a password to login?
[01:11] <jarred> howcome when i delete files on my ntfs drive using nautilus they donot free up space
[01:11] <nickrud> hentaixp: did I type 2? doh. (me claims aged brain thinking old days, sometimes forgetting when 1.2m was max
[01:11] <jarred> and they only actulley delete when i do rm-rf
[01:11] <xSnOoPyx> It just says "No root file system is defined"
[01:11] <MrPiracy> mjw-: i think it is, i saw it today ... i was having another problem and someone asked me the contents of this file
[01:11] <MrPiracy> mjw-: but i cant remember where it was
[01:11] <xSnOoPyx> anybody else know how to do this
[01:11] <Dr_willis> hentaixp,  you can set up a user ith no password.. and i imagine that will cause all sorts of other issues. You can set up X to auto login a specific user.
[01:11] <nickrud> jarred: look for a .Trash dir on the ntfs partition
[01:11] <jarred> ok
[01:12] <nickrud> xSnOoPyx: then you haven't set up a root partition, the one that goes on   /   .
[01:12] <hentaixp> jarred, suggest you share a ext3 dir with linux and windows instead
[01:12] <nickrud> xSnOoPyx: and be sure that it's not the same as /home
[01:12] <mjw-> MrPiracy check the link ubotu directed you to...that may be able to help
[01:12] <hentaixp> Dr_willis, I said a user not root account
[01:12] <bad_cables> anyone familiar with muddleftp?
[01:12] <nickrud> I wonder just how safe writing with that ext2 driver in windows is
[01:12] <SniperFromHell> Any good instant messaging programs beside Pidgin and kopete?
[01:12] <hentaixp> Sometimes I do think ubuntu if backwards
[01:13] <jarred> is there any way of backing up my home folder and restoring it without having to reinstall ubuntu
[01:13] <bad_cables> muddleftp... i need help creating a user because this really sucks
[01:13] <Dr_willis> hentaixp,  you can set up/make/disable the password on a user account.
[01:13] <hentaixp> ah ok
[01:13] <bad_cables> i wouldnt be in here begging for help if there were any documentation on this one...
[01:14] <nickrud> jarred: tar bcf home-backup.tar.bz2 /home  . Make sure you are doing that in a directory that is not in home and has a lot of space. Or, install sbackup
[01:14] <MrPiracy> mjw-: it doesnt mention this file, i want to change the location of default download folder
[01:15] <benny269> hi does anyone know how to get out of an infinite loop in octave?
[01:15] <MrPiracy> nickrud: what does this command do? packs the hole /home folder into a tar file?
[01:15] <xSnOoPyx> hmm, have you seen this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=620016&highlight=reset+permissions that might work
[01:15] <nickrud> MrPiracy: yes, and compresses it as a bzip
[01:16] <nickrud> MrPiracy: tar stands for tape archive , made just for this purpose ;)
[01:16] <mjw-> MrPiracy what you could do is create your directory wherever you want downloads to go and then use ln to create symbolic link for ~/Downloads to point to the location you really want the files to be
[01:16] <LordMat> irc.undernet.org
[01:16] <benny269> hi does anyone know how to get out of an infinite loop in octave?
[01:16] <MrPiracy> ln --help
[01:16] <Pirate_Hunter> back again I finally ionstalled Vidalia in gutsy but when ever I try to make it work with tor it doesnt respond, it seems like tor is working independently from vidalia how can I solve this?
[01:16] <MrPiracy> mjw-: will this command help?
[01:16] <mjw-> mrpiracy i.e.  ln -s ~/Downloads /real/path/to/downloads/folder
[01:17] <ethan961> infinate loop as in apple hq?
[01:17] <xSnOoPyx> Nickrud, can you see my previous link?
[01:17] <hon> benny269: I guess if C-c doesn't work, you don't have many options
[01:17] <nickrud> xSnOoPyx: probably not
[01:18] <ag0g0girl> ppc people here?
[01:18] <hon> you are worried about losing results?
[01:18] <nickrud> ag0g0girl: yes, and also #ubuntu-ppc (real small but smart crew there)
[01:18] <benny269> hon: whenever i do that it shuts the whole program down, very annoying, i cant work with my program that way, any ideas?
[01:18] <MrPiracy> mjw-: lol, i typed the wrong path and now it says " file already exists"  when i try again
[01:19] <xSnOoPyx> nickrud, do you know how to access my old dirrectories through the terminal
[01:19] <ag0g0girl> cool thank nickrud
[01:19] <mjw-> MrPiracy well your ~/Downloads directory already exists, you'll have to delete it to make a link of the same name that points elsewhere
[01:19] <nickrud> xSnOoPyx: from the live cd? or where?
[01:20] <jarred> can  i integrate programs in a ubuntu cd
[01:20] <Phildo> hrm - my hdd/installation appears in the install disc, but doesnt show up at all in dmesg on boot.. and dumps me to a shell.. :/ unsure what its missing, the kernel certainly hasnt been replaced..
[01:20] <xSnOoPyx> from the live cd
[01:20] <rdavila> hi firends!
[01:20] <rdavila> I'm trying to configure gutsy to work with 2 graphics cards and two monitors, but I have not succeeded, maybe someone can help me?
[01:20] <Pirate_Hunter> back again I finally installed Vidalia in gutsy but when ever I try to make it work with tor it doesnt respond, it seems like tor is working independently from vidalia how can I solve this?
[01:20] <benny269> hon: whenever i do that it shuts the whole program down, very annoying, i cant work with my program that way, any ideas?
[01:20] <kdallas> Hi guys! Q: if I have a hosts file to block access to certain sites, where could I place it to become effective in gusty? Thanks
[01:21] <mjw-> rdavila try getting it to work with one card and one monitor at first
[01:21] <nickrud> xSnOoPyx:   sudo mount /dev/<device>  -t auto /mnt   ,  where device is the partiton you want to read. Then cd /mnt and you will see them.
[01:21] <rdavila> here is my xorg.conf: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/4398/
[01:21] <hon> benny269: while 1 ; end <return> C-c
[01:21] <jarred> is there any way of integrating a program into the ubuntu cd
[01:21] <Pirate_Hunter> it seems vidalia cant find the tor config file to start with it
[01:21] <hon> this does not close octave for me
[01:21] <scrambledegg> kdallas: /etc
[01:21] <rdavila> hi mjw: but it work fine on windoze
[01:21] <hon> benny269: what version do you have?
[01:21] <K_Dallas> scrambledegg, thanks
[01:21] <benny269> hon: 0.65
[01:21] <rdavila> this is my output of lspci:
[01:21] <rdavila> 00:09.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro] (rev 15)
[01:21] <rdavila> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev b2)
[01:21] <mjw-> rdavila so what happens with this config file? (I didn't realize you were this far along already)
[01:22] <xSnOoPyx> nickrud, how do you find out the device name though ?
[01:22] <MrPiracy> mjw-: thanks, it works :)
[01:22] <nickrud> xSnOoPyx:   sudo fdisk -l  in a terminal will list all the partitions on all the devices
[01:22] <hon> benny269: what??!! I haven't seen octave before 2.1 (I have 3.0 now)
[01:22] <mjw-> MrPiracy no problem
[01:22] <mjw-> MrPiracy ln -s is your friend ;)
[01:22] <hon> benny269: octave --version gives you 0.65 ??!!
[01:23] <benny269> hon: sorry i mean koctave, not sure how to check version of octave
[01:23] <Hirvinen> A local root exploit in Gentoo. In Ubuntu as well: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=209460
[01:23] <rdavila> mjw-: I think that ubuntu recognizes the card but not the monitor.
[01:23] <Jangari> is it possible to mount an sshfs server automatically on login?
[01:23] <hon> benny269: in a terminal : octave --version
[01:23] <rdavila> here is a screenshot of nvidia-settings: http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nvidiabg8.png
[01:23] <mjw-> rdavila when x starts...does only one screen come up? neither?
[01:23] <nickrud> xSnOoPyx: I gotta go eat, bbl.
[01:24] <rdavila> mjw-, yeah, only one screen come up
[01:24] <benny269> hon: 2.1.73
[01:24] <mjw-> rdavila nvidia-settings may not recognize the TNT2 card, that's getting kind of old. I'm guessing only the Geforce2MX card only comes up?
[01:25] <hon> benny269: can you try this in the terminal: octave <ret> while 1 ; end <ret> C-c
[01:25] <hon> does it close it?
[01:25] <jarred> is there any way to integrate programs into an ubuntu cd to install
[01:25] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone help me get vidalia working please :( ?
[01:25] <hon> jarred: you want a customized ubunut CD. there are many ways, I guess.
[01:25] <rdavila> mjw-, yeah, only the Geforce2MX come up
[01:26] <jarred> is there any programs with a decent gui like nlite
[01:26] <jarred> like a nlite for ubuntu
[01:26] <scrambledegg> Hirvinen: shit the exploit works
[01:26] <mjw-> rdavila i'm not familiar with nvidia cards/x.org servers...is the nvidia server the proprietary NVidia driver?
[01:26] <benny269> hon: yeah that breaks the loop
[01:26] <xSnOoPyx> Alright I have set permissions completely at 777
[01:26] <benny269> hon: in koctave C-c first time beeps, C-c beeps and warns 1 more time will abort, 3rd time it closes koctave
[01:26] <mjw-> mjw- because it might not support the TNT2...that's getting kind of old. the "nv" server might work with it.
[01:27] <mjw-> er, that last one was directed to you rdavila
[01:27] <xSnOoPyx> alright thanks nickrud for all your help see you later
[01:27] <scrambledegg> even with the newest kernel in hardy
[01:27] <aztracker1> for future reference http://frugalcoder.us/post/2008/02/Setting-up-mod_mono-(ASPNet-20)-on-Ubuntu-710-(Gutsy-Gibbon).aspx
[01:27] <xSnOoPyx> hey does anyone know how people address each other with the big box around it ?
[01:27] <rdavila> mjw-: I was not much of this, because it seems to me that if the driver "nvidia" and not "nv"
[01:27] <Hirvinen> Mentioned exploit works also at least on older 2.6.17-12. Not on 2.6.20-16 though.
[01:28] <rdavila> mjw-: then i try to change from ''nvidia to 'nv' for this device?
[01:28] <jarred> is there any gui programs thajt let you integrate programs into an ubuntu cd
[01:28] <benny269> hon: tried running the program in terminal and same thing happens, C-c 3 times necessary to end process but ended octave instance as well
[01:28] <mjw-> rdavila yes...change line 93 to Driver "nv"
[01:29] <rdavila> mjw-: thanks, i come back ;)
[01:29] <mjw-> rdavila ok, let me know
[01:29] <hon> benny269: do you use the features provided by koctave? I recommend using a text editor like emacs or vim with octave in terminal (or in emacs). That keeps things a lot leaner and more reliable. That's how most people I know use octave.
[01:29] <gigaclon> only account
[01:29] <MrPiracy> anyone knows if there's an updated version for intel video cards for gutsy? i've tried both i810 and intel but they're kinda buggy
[01:29] <gigaclon> im using the CUPS web interface at localhost:631 and when i try to add a printer, it pops a username/password, I enter my username and password and it rejects it
[01:29] <hon> benny269: I also do the same with matlab.
[01:30] <benny269> hon: i was using koctave for familiarity with the matlab interface, no other reason. emacs is better?
[01:30] <Dr_willis> gigaclon,  what re;ease of ubuntu?  The older releases had a bug where that interface dident work properly.
[01:30] <gigaclon> the LTS
[01:30] <Hirvinen> !ops | Sorry, if I infringe on policy, but I think this locals root exploit, https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=209460 , works at least on Hardy 2.6.24-7 and Edgy 2.6.17-12. I think it would be topic-worthy.
[01:30] <ubotu> Sorry, if I infringe on policy, but I think this locals root exploit, https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=209460 , works at least on Hardy 2.6.24-7 and Edgy 2.6.17-12. I think it would be topic-worthy.: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaran
[01:30] <scrambledegg> i hope the kernel team is working on a security update
[01:30] <gigaclon> Dapper Drake
[01:30] <gigaclon> the LTS
[01:31] <PriceChild> Hirvinen, the ops here aren't developers. I would suggest a bug report.
[01:31] <PriceChild> !bug | Hirvinen
[01:31] <ubotu> Hirvinen: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[01:31] <Dr_willis> gigaclon,  yep. thats the problem then i belive. You may want to check the forums/google to find the work around - or dont use the cups web interface.. I think you could set the root password also. BUt thats frowned upon.
[01:31] <hon> benny269: I found that I actually don't need the matlab interface either. Matlab was too buggy and slow for certain GUI things.
[01:31] <Hirvinen> PriceChild: I'll do it, but informing users of something of this severity is very important.
[01:31] <Pal__> hi
[01:32] <benny269> hon: okay what did you find best. i'm open to suggestions. edit in emacs, run in terminal?
[01:32] <gigaclon> well i have to use the Web interface to install this Epson CX8400
[01:32] <Karoo> hy everybody
[01:32] <Karoo> I have a problem
[01:32] <Karoo> so, Kad: firewalled
[01:32] <Karoo> and I do not know how to do
[01:32] <hon> benny269: I recommend you seriously try emacs + octave. (don't get pissed off first. emacs takes a bit of time to get used to it. Once that's done you will never consider anything else)
[01:33] <Karoo> can anyone help me?
[01:33] <Karoo> thanks in advance
[01:33] <benny269> hon: what is emacs?
[01:33] <Starnestommy> benny269: a text editor
[01:33] <Starnestommy> with a lot of features
[01:33] <mjw-> rdavila any luck?
[01:33] <benny269> which version do i want to use?
[01:33] <hon> benny269: aptitude install emacs22-gtk emacs22-el
[01:34] <benny269> thank you
[01:34] <rdavila> mjw-: nop :(
[01:34] <rdavila> mjw-: only one screen come up
[01:34] <gigaclon> !root
[01:34] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[01:34] <hon> benny269: also there is this wiki : www.emacswiki.org, this irc channel #emacs, and the whole history of free software rotating around emacs. it is kind of hard to miss!
[01:34] <KiD_ChAoS> what do you prefer network manager or wicd
[01:34] <mjw-> rdavila the TNT2 is a PCI card I'm guessing?
[01:34] <gigaclon> this computer isn't on enough to hack
[01:35] <rdavila> mjw-: yes, is a PCI card
[01:35] <rdavila> mjw-: the other is a VGA card
[01:36] <benny269> hon: thanks a lot, i need general help with a problem im trying to program, quite basic matlab stuff. do you know where i can get help with that? irc channel is dead...
[01:36] <KiD_ChAoS> what do you prefer network manager or wicd
[01:36] <KiD_ChAoS> has anyone used wicd......
[01:36] <unagi> anyone know how to use google earth with gps?
[01:36] <mjw-> rdavila the geforce2mx is an AGP card, you mean?
[01:36] <unagi> i use wicd
[01:36] <witepa> Hi, I am trying to install gutsy on a core 2 duo... I downloaded amd64 but when I try to boot from the disk i get "busybox" and nothing happens. It lists exceptions, and I am just lost. Could someone please help?
[01:36] <rdavila> mjw-: yeah, the Geforce is a AGP card
[01:37] <MrPiracy> how do i know if ubuntu is using graphic acceleration?
[01:37] <lz7> witepa: get your money back
[01:37] <mjw-> rdavila make sure the nv driver is installed....sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nv ... it should be though.
[01:37] <quitte_> hi. i just read the servercandy wiki page and wanted to ask about the status of te ssl certificates. does ubuntu have some tool for easz central certificate management?
[01:37] <Dr_willis> witepa,  you may want to tyr the alternative installer cd.
[01:38] <witepa> Dr_willis: Why is this?
[01:38] <mjw-> rdavila or you might try the vesa driver...if you can't get that server to work with it, you're unlikely to get it working I think
[01:38] <Dr_willis> witepa,  May be somthing odd with your hardware. or a bad cd burn.
[01:38] <Dr_willis> witepa,  ive had better luckj with the alt-cd,  on some hardware
[01:39] <unagi> KiD_ChAoS: i use wicd
[01:39] <witepa> Dr_willis: I tried the same thing with an i386 cd.. but it did the same exact thing, does that say anything?
[01:39] <rdavila> mjw-: i should change 'nv' by 'vesa'?
[01:39] <mjw-> rdavila I have to get going though...hope you have luck with it at some point.
[01:39] <mjw-> rdavila yes
[01:39] <mjw-> rdavila you could also try a bit depth of 15 or 16
[01:39] <Dr_willis> witepa,  weird. I had one machine it wouldebnt boot up a ubuntu cd right, but it did a kubuntu cd. Not sure what the deal was with that.
[01:39] <Phildo> hrm... i dont see how grub lets linux boot from my drive, yet cant see it to mount partitions from...
[01:39] <rdavila> mjw-: ok man, very thanks ;)
[01:39] <Dr_willis> witepa,  the cd's do work in other machines?
[01:40] <quitte> -topic
[01:40] <K_Dallas> Q: When I install fruit and knights (chess engine and frontend) it is supposed to be configured automatically but i am not sure if knights has found fruit engine. Anyway to make it work? thanks
[01:40] <KiD_ChAoS> unagi: do you like it better than network manager?
[01:41] <KiD_ChAoS> unagi: are you using a broadcom chipset?
[01:41] <witepa> Dr_willis: I used the same file to install successfully on another machine... but these two disks have been brand new  ones
[01:41] <unagi> yes i like it better than network manager, i think its an intel chipset
[01:41] <unagi> not sure
[01:41] <icaughtfire818> Er, Hi. I'm new on IRC and I need to know how to get to #minn
[01:42] <linxuz3r> !compiz
[01:42] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[01:42] <quitte> icaughtfire818: /join
[01:42] <witepa> Dr_willis: you think the alternate install cd will work better?
[01:42] <witepa> Dr_willis: Is there anything different I do when installing that?
[01:43] <Hirvinen> Bug filed.
[01:43] <Dr_willis> witepa,  it might work better.. it could be somthing odd with the hardware. or cd drive.
[01:43] <unagi> !war
[01:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about war - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:43] <icaughtfire818> can anyone tell me how to get to #minn?
[01:44] <robdig> icaughtfire818: /join #minn
[01:44] <MightBeFBIGuy> icaughtfire818: how did you get here?
[01:44] <MrPiracy> how do i know if ubuntu is using graphic acceleration?
[01:44] <farnley> Hi all, I have a inspiron 530s, can someone point me towards the drivers I should be using for 82G33/ G31 express integrated graphics controller. I don't believe I have the correct drivers installed at the moment. (Device Manager says Vendor/ Device are unknown) - thanks.
[01:45] <witepa> Dr_willis: Alright, I'll download that, but I may be back in a bit
[01:47] <MrKeuner> Why would I get this when use i18n? File does not exist: /var/www/project/en, referer: http://localhost/project/?q=en/node/5
[01:48] <PriceChild> Hirvinen, security team is aware of the bug
[01:48] <MrKeuner> looks like http://localhost/project/?q=en/node/5 is rendering fine
[01:48] <Hirvinen> PriceChild: Good.
[01:48] <scott_> is there a way to get a lexmark x5470 printer to work on ubuntu
[01:50] <fragged_> mhm when trying to install Diablo 2 Expansion from an ISO file through wine,  it complains that the CD is not in the appropriate CD drive, is there a way to pass an option to wine to say dirX is a CD drive?
[01:50] <fragged_> mhm just found one in winecfg
[01:52] <blackmouse> is there an open source equivilant to vmware ace?
[01:52] <blackmouse> or where would i look to figure out how to net work virtual machines?
[01:53] <Kuwanger> I have a small problem.  At shutdown, the splash screen is interrupted by X being killed and some text being displayed.
[01:53] <putnu1> hi guys
[01:53] <putnu1> how can i configure vbox to accept rdp request from a host os such as linux? right now its running as a nat and the guest os has a ip of 10.x.x.x and the host a 192.x.x.x
[01:54] <putnu1> is there a conf file or something i need to configure?
[01:55] <micky> hello, can anyone point me to an ISCSI Howto ( setting up the host server ) ?
[01:55] <bluej774> I'm having trouble configuring the sudoers file properly.  Can anyone help me with it?
[01:55] <blackmouse> what is vbox?
[01:55] <unagi> i-scuzzy?
[01:55] <unagi> !vbox
[01:55] <ubotu> virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[01:56] <putnu1> anybody?
[01:56] <Kuwanger> putnu1: I thought the free version didn't support rdf.
[01:56] <Kuwanger> err, rdp
[01:56] <raygun> nope just getting the hang of it myself
[01:56] <unagi> it doesnt
[01:57] <Joelito> Does anyone know a good tutorial to create GUI apps in java? I'm using sun-java6-* + eclipse
[01:57] <hacked``> guys, whats the best window manager to use, that will show how cool ubuntu can be, to a first time useris really capable of, to a first time user
[01:57] <hacked``> guys, whats the best window manager to use, that will show how cool ubuntu can be, to a first time user
[01:57] <hentaixp> hacked``, 1 time only
[01:57] <peabody`> hacked``: Uh...compiz I guess?  Whatcha looking for exactly?
[01:57] <putnu1> oh so vbix does not support rdp?
[01:57] <putnu1> vbox
[01:58] <unagi> vbox does support rdp
[01:58] <Kuwanger> putnu1: Not the free one, AFAIK.
[01:58] <unagi> but in the nonfree version
[01:58] <unagi> !free
[01:58] <ubotu> freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing
[01:58] <unagi> !nonfree
[01:58] <ubotu> When we use the term 'non-free', we mean that it is not Open Source. Software that is not open source cannot be fixed or improved by anyone except the software authors -- which is not us :(
[01:58] <putnu1> hmmm
[01:58] <putnu1> i guess i need to use vmware
[01:59] <putnu1> that sucks
[01:59] <hacked``> peabody, cool factor, ie. beryl
[01:59] <Geggeles> hi
[01:59] <pawan> hi
[01:59] <Kuwanger> putnu1: vmware is nonfree too.
[01:59] <hacked``> hentaixp, my first post did not make sense, if you re-read it. thanks for your concern
[01:59] <unagi> !vmware
[01:59] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[01:59] <unagi> !gps
[01:59] <ubotu> Street mapping and GPS navigation software available for Ubuntu includes !GpsDrive (GTK, raster maps, free), !Roadnav (GTK, free vector maps from Tiger and OSM, free), !GoogleEarth (Qt, proprietary vector maps, proprietary)
[02:00] <jc> how do I use a logitec Quickcam IM with ubuntu?
[02:00] <micky> !iscsi
[02:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iscsi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <Pelo> !webcam | jc
[02:00] <ubotu> jc: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:00] <lulzturtle> does anyone know how I can test to see if a port is accessible through the internet? I'm not familiar with the terminal or it's commands.
[02:01] <mona> HELLO？
[02:01] <hentaixp> yo
[02:01] <Pelo> lulzturtle, there are portcheckers websites you can use , just google for them
[02:01] <Geggeles> give me a german channel please
[02:01] <Kuwanger> Personally, I'd use qemu. :/
[02:01] <Pelo> hello mona what can we do for you today ?
[02:01] <Cromag> !de
[02:01] <mona> hello
[02:01] <lulzturtle> Pelo thanks, I'll check
[02:01] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:01] <pawan> hello
[02:01] <Geggeles> THX
[02:01] <Pelo> hello pawan
[02:02] <mona> I installed the xchat just now
[02:02] <Pelo> mona, congradulations
[02:02] <pawan> whats up
[02:02] <MrKeuner> hi, I am having lockups on my thinkpad r52 1849-4wu laptop. It should not be related to video card(ATI Card) driver since I freeze occurs both when on fglrx and on free software driver. It should not be related to wireless driver because it freezes when it is hard connected, too. After freeze I booted with an Ubuntu live CD and tarred the /var/log folder. But inspecting the logs I could not see anything interesting. Can Anybody help me/assist me tr
[02:02] <MrKeuner> acking this problem, please?
[02:02]  * Pelo burned his hand with oil earlier, his typing is a bit slow and painfull
[02:02] <mona> it looks a nice place here..hah
[02:03] <Geggeles> bye @all many thx
[02:03] <MrKeuner> Pelo: steal burns better, try that one next :)
[02:03] <zzh> zh
[02:03]  * robdig passes some ointment to pelo
[02:03] <Pelo> MrKeuner, well starts with the basics, anything special you are running when the freezes occur ?
[02:03] <Pelo> MrKeuner, I think you mean steel
[02:03] <MrKeuner> Pelo: not really
[02:04] <Pelo> MrKeuner, then you lost me
[02:04] <unagi> MrKeuner: news flash my man, it can still be video whether it is fglrx and free
[02:04] <MrKeuner> unagi: is that real, oh!
[02:04] <MrKeuner> unagi: how can I check
[02:04] <Cromag> i have the sam laptop
[02:04] <Cromag> same*
[02:04] <Cromag> not 100% sure of the model tho.
[02:04] <MrKeuner> Pelo: I said not really for any specific type of application
[02:05] <unagi> are you running compiz MrKeuner
[02:05] <MrKeuner> unagi: no
[02:05] <unagi> thats too bad....cool lookin stuff
[02:05] <MrKeuner> unagi: visual effects is set to none I mean
[02:05] <rabidweezle> !resolution
[02:05] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:05] <Pelo> unagi, candy rots your teeth,  eye-candy rots your brain, say no to compiz
[02:06] <fez> so can anyone confirm or deny that the GUI ubuntu installer (e.g. the default install CD) has a functioning gparted that can be uesd to successfully resize a windows partition during install?
[02:06] <unagi> fez true story
[02:06] <crusie> hey - how do I get sound on pages like video.google.com ? I have working sound in ubuntu - but not in flash players..
[02:06] <Pelo> fez, gparted runs well during the install process, yes
[02:06] <echosystm> what is the best command line bit torrent client?
[02:06] <winnerrlz93> hey i got a question
[02:06] <unagi> !best
[02:06] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[02:06] <unagi> hey i got an answer winnerrlz93
[02:06] <Pelo> echosystm, best is relative,  I think rtorrent is well liked
[02:06] <echosystm> well, what are some good ones
[02:06] <cyphase> Does anyone know of a VirtualBox OSE 1.5.4 deb for Ubuntu Gutsy?
[02:07] <crusie> echosystm: try the orginal bit torrent client
[02:07] <rabidweezle> what was that easy way to set the screen resolution again?
[02:07] <Pelo> cyphase, check in www.getdeb.net
[02:07] <winnerrlz93> some1 pm i need help plz!!!!
[02:07] <cyphase> Pelo: i have
[02:07] <Aval0n> hey what is a micro sd HC card?
[02:07] <rabidweezle> it was like dpkg --reconfigure xorg or something along those lines
[02:07] <Aval0n> I need a micro sd card for my phone.. but I'm not sure what the HC part is?
[02:07] <Pelo> rabidweezle, menu > system > prefs > screenresolution , or someting with monitor , I think it got changed in gutsy
[02:08] <unagi> Aval0n: hc?
[02:08] <rabidweezle> I mean to add a new resolution that's not on the list lol
[02:08] <wirrwarr> aval0n maybe ask wikipedia
[02:08] <winnerrlz93> need help
[02:08] <Pelo> Aval0n, those little  stamp size memory flash cards
[02:08] <crusie> need help with getting sound on places like video.google.com - got sound on desktop
[02:08] <Cromag> !ask
[02:08] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[02:08] <unagi> Pelo: no thats minisd
[02:08] <crusie> winnerrlz93: with what?
[02:08] <unagi> Pelo: micro is the size of a pinky nail
[02:08] <Pelo> crusie, it's a flash issue,  try getting the latest from the adobe website
[02:08]  * rabidweezle blinks seeing his stupid keyboard beeping at me everytime I type something...
[02:08] <crusie> Pelo: so the one from the repo's doesn't work ?
[02:09] <winnerrlz93> can any1 tell me how to dual boot?
[02:09] <Cromag> !dualboot
[02:09] <crusie> !dualboot
[02:09] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[02:09] <Pelo> unagi, I wasn'T so much telling him about the siize of the thing, just giving him a general idea of what sd cards were
[02:09] <rabidweezle> dualbootin is easy as pie :)
[02:09] <Cromag> pie is hard..
[02:09] <bluej774> Can someone please help me with sudoers file?  I want to give a user access to synaptic without all of root.
[02:09] <rabidweezle> installing windows first is the easiest way
[02:09] <crusie> yeah... but why bother?
[02:09] <erat123> Cromag, cheery pie
[02:09] <Pelo> crusie, I thought you were asking on where to get one , I had assumed you had already checked in the repos
[02:09] <Cromag> erat123: still hard :(
[02:10] <crusie> I did check the repos
[02:10] <wirrwarr> does somebody know a guide how to config all buttons for a Logitech G5 (thru USB)
[02:10] <erat123> Cromag, but so good
[02:10]  * Pelo can never get the crust right 
[02:10] <Cromag> oh ye
[02:10] <rabidweezle> why dual boot? some people need windows for some things still, wine isn't perfect
[02:10] <crusie> Pelo: but it didn't work... no sound there
[02:10] <rabidweezle> and neither is virtual machines
[02:10] <crusie> rabidweezle: thinkgs like what?
[02:10] <dabbill> is there a way to install firefox 32bit on 64bit install ?
[02:10] <astro76> !mouse | wirrwarr
[02:10] <rabidweezle> well, new games for one
[02:10] <Pelo> crusie, sorry,  I got confuse for a second,  the flash installer in the repos is broken, get the tar. from the adobe site
[02:10] <wirrwarr> !mouse
[02:10] <Kuwanger> Time to find Canonical Ltd. :)
[02:10] <rabidweezle> or some things that don't work with wine
[02:10] <Cromag> Pelo: hmm sure about that ?
[02:11] <crusie> Pelo: quite alright mate :D I'll go grap it
[02:11] <Pelo> dabbill, yes check in hte forum for instructions
[02:11] <rabidweezle> which there are still plenty of things that don't work with wine :/
[02:11] <dabbill> pelo thanks
[02:11] <astro76> wirrwarr: ubotu must be dead... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[02:11] <Cromag> Pelo: sure it wasnt the tar on the site to ? - And therefore the fix was made ?
[02:11] <PriceChild> !test
[02:11] <Pelo> Cromag, I've got 5 things going at once,  sure about what ?
[02:11] <dr-raku> Pelo, i just installed flash today; it works
[02:11] <Cromag> Pelo: adobe issue- sorry :)
[02:11] <ubotu> wirrwarr: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[02:11] <ubotu> Failed.
[02:11] <Pelo> !flash
[02:11] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[02:11] <wirrwarr> thx astro76
[02:11] <Cromag> !flashissue
[02:11] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation has been broken for some time. A fix has been released now, although it might not have yet reached all mirrors. If the update fails to install Flash, try « sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree ; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree »
[02:12] <Pelo> Cromag, might have been fixed recently
[02:12] <Cromag> Pelo: ok, my mistake then :)
[02:12]  * Pelo stands corrected
[02:12] <rabidweezle> trust me, I would prefer to stay in windows all day
[02:12] <rabidweezle> I mean linux
[02:12] <rabidweezle> doh
[02:12] <rabidweezle> :/
[02:12] <Pelo> Cromag, personnaly I haven'T had the issue, my flash was installed back on edgy so I didnT' get to experienc the fun
[02:13] <winnerrlz93> how do i fix my bios settings for the dual-boot?
[02:13] <Cromag> Pelo: me neither. - Just saw a whole lot of those questions.
[02:13] <Cromag> winnerrlz93: read the guide ?
[02:13] <rabidweezle> winnerrlz93, what bios settings?
[02:13] <unagi> winnerrlz93: what bios settings
[02:13] <Pelo> winnerrlz93, two hdd ?
[02:13] <echosystm> Aval0n: sdhc is high capacity sd
[02:13] <winnerrlz93> to boot ubuntu
[02:13] <dr-raku> winnerrlz93, there's nothing to FIX in bios
[02:13] <unagi> winnerrlz93: nothing in the bios
[02:13] <winnerrlz93> then why wont it boot?
[02:14] <echosystm> sdhc drives are backward compatible to sd, but sd is not forward compatible to sdhc
[02:14] <Pelo> winnerrlz93, what makes you think you need to play in the bios to boot ubuntu ?
[02:14] <Cromag> you never told us the real problem..
[02:14] <Pelo> !who | Cromag
[02:14] <ubotu> Cromag: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[02:14] <rabidweezle> winnerrlz93, did you install linux or windows first?
[02:14] <winnerrlz93> i had windows
[02:14] <unagi> winnerrlz93: did you turn it on?
[02:14] <Cromag> mm
[02:14] <winnerrlz93> i have windows
[02:14] <unagi> had?
[02:14] <unagi> so it was on first winnerrlz93?
[02:14] <winnerrlz93> yes
[02:14] <Kuwanger> Ah..so, all I have to do is wait for Seveaz.
[02:14] <unagi> whats the problem
[02:15] <winnerrlz93> ubuntu won't boot
[02:15] <fez> please be less specific
[02:15] <rabidweezle> did you just install ubuntu?
[02:15] <unagi> ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,oh i know whats wrong!
[02:15] <unagi> wait no i dont...
[02:15] <winnerrlz93> i can't
[02:15] <fez> then be more specific
[02:15] <Pelo> winnerrlz93,  you are trying to instal ubunt ?
[02:15] <winnerrlz93> it won't even in install
[02:15] <winnerrlz93> yes
[02:15] <rabidweezle> ooooh
[02:15] <rabidweezle> set your bios boot first to cdrom winnerrlz93
[02:15] <unagi> .......wow
[02:15] <unagi> im done
[02:16] <winnerrlz93> i tried that
[02:16] <rabidweezle> does it even try to boot the disc?
[02:16] <Pelo> winnerrlz93, ok , put the cd in , when you boot the computer hit F8 , to get the boot device selector and pick the cd to boot from
[02:16] <Cromag> winnerrlz93: what happwns..
[02:16] <fez> what proportion of the Desktop Linux market would you estimate that Ubuntu holds?
[02:16] <winnerrlz93> wat?
[02:16] <Pelo> fex about 6% we are told
[02:16] <Cromag> winnerrlz93: what happens..
[02:16] <rabidweezle> fez, guestimate of at least 50
[02:16] <unagi> winnerrlz93: what does it do
[02:16] <unagi> !doesnt work
[02:16] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[02:16] <dr-raku> market? :))
[02:16] <winnerrlz93> it just boots windows
[02:17] <fez> somewhere between 6% and 50% eh?
[02:17] <fez> all newb linuxes seem to run ubuntu
[02:17] <unagi> did you even install ubuntu?
[02:17] <Cromag> winnerrlz93: so it does not see the cdrom - did you burn it as the ISO it is ?
[02:17] <Pelo> winnerrlz93,  you'll have to check your computer's manual to figure out how to boot from the cd
[02:17] <fez> why isn't it called n00buntu
[02:17] <winnerrlz93> yes it's an iso file
[02:17] <unagi> winnerrlz93: what do you mean its an iso file
[02:17] <dr-raku> fez, maybe not all ubuntu guys are "newb" - as you think
[02:17] <rabidweezle> first off, just because it's easy to use doesn't mean it's *made* for newbs
[02:17] <winnerrlz93> when i open the cd in my computer it shows it as a iso
[02:17] <Cromag> winnerrlz93: i know, but you will need to burn it as an image.
[02:18] <winnerrlz93> ok?
[02:18] <jc> the logitech quckcam 5000 is suppsed to work out of the box but camora does work its says it can't connect to /dev/video0
[02:18] <Pelo> fez,  ubuntu is the current  superstart distro, it's easy to install and easy to use, it's a good starter distro for new linux users
[02:18] <unagi> did you burn the iso winnerrlz93?
[02:18] <winnerrlz93> i took the .rar file and burnt it to a c
[02:18] <winnerrlz93> cd
[02:18] <rabidweezle> second off, just because you run your own compiled version from the gnu tree and compiled everything yourself doesn't make you "1337"
[02:18] <unagi> omg winnerrlz93
[02:18] <Cromag> unagi: i think he did, as a data disk and not an iso/image
[02:18] <unagi> you have to burn the image to a cd
[02:19] <Pelo> winnerrlz93,   did you copy the .iso file to the cd or did you burn an image ?   .iso is a special format, it's a cd image , to make perfect copies of a cd,  it is not a file you burn to a cd
[02:19] <TheLastDodo> Yeah, after all gentoo's fine, but since most people use OSes for practical purposes, how many need that much control over their distro?
[02:19] <unagi> Cromag: i dont think hes ready for this
[02:19] <dr-raku> winnerrlz93, :)) you didn't burned the iso but burned the iso file instead
[02:19] <Cromag> unagi: oh i believe you are SO right.
[02:19] <rabidweezle> the only "1337" people are the developers that do the work of coding for no profit
[02:19] <winnerrlz93> oh ok
[02:19] <Leechzilla> I can't find my firewire port under hardware information. How do I search for it from Terminal? I want to buy a firewire harddrive but I'm not sure if it'll work with Ubuntu
[02:19] <glass-eye> does anyone have a workaround for the broken emdebian-tools package?
[02:19] <winnerrlz93> how do i burn it as an iso?
[02:19] <crusie> how do I install that flash thingie from adobe's webpage?
[02:19] <Starnestommy> winnerrlz93: you need some sort of cd burning program
[02:20] <winnerrlz93> does it need to be unzipped?
[02:20] <dr-raku> winnerrlz93, you should "burn image" in your burn application for that iso file
[02:20] <crusie> when I run the installer it says
[02:20] <Pelo> winnerrlz93, what software do you use to burn cds in windows ?
[02:20] <winnerrlz93> roxio
[02:20] <TheLastDodo> Leechzilla, it will. I've used something like 15 different firewire devices with my Ubuntu box with no trouble at all.
[02:20] <Cromag> cdburningxp.se will do it.
[02:20] <dr-raku> winnerrlz93, not put the iso file on the cd; it's not the same thing
[02:20] <pawan> hi
[02:20] <Pelo> winnerrlz93,  I dont, knoqw that one,  but check in the menus for a burn image  command
[02:20] <crusie> it says I have to get my admin to remove xpti.dat or something
[02:20] <Leechzilla> TheLastDodo: How do I find out if the port is Firewire 400 or Firewire 800?
[02:20] <fez> well i'll admit ubuntu's hardware compatibility is quite good
[02:20] <hentaixp> Leechzilla, their phsically different
[02:20] <TheLastDodo> Good question. One sec.
[02:21] <fez> however, trying to install it on my 500mhz p3 laptop was not happening
[02:21] <Leechzilla> Ah, okay
[02:21] <hentaixp> check wikipedia Leechzilla
[02:21] <fez> the installer was slower than mollasis
[02:21] <l00kp> Hi folks! Got a question at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55434/
[02:21] <Pelo> fez,  try with the alternate isntall cd but at 500 mhz you are stretching it a bit
[02:21] <macogw> fez: did you try the alternate cd?
[02:21] <winnerrlz93> do i have to extract the file?
[02:21] <fez> no
[02:21] <sme^> I have the same problem. I don't know how to burn an image. XP has Nero, but I got Alcohol 120 set it to burn image made the disk and it still wont work. Any ideas ?
[02:21] <crusie> Pelo: you still here ?
[02:21] <fez> you recon i should do you?
[02:21] <macogw> fez: i installed on my 300MHz P2
[02:22] <Pelo> fez, xubuntu might be more along the lines of wat you need,  or  puppylinux even
[02:22] <Pelo> crusie,  apparently
[02:22] <crusie> sweet :D
[02:22] <Cromag> sme^: try with imgburn
[02:22] <Cromag> sme^: really simple.
[02:22] <winnerrlz93> can i burn an image with dameon?
[02:22] <sme^> thx cromag
[02:22] <crusie> Pelo: it says I have to delete a file called xpti.dat or something
[02:22] <crusie> Pelo: I don't know where to find it
[02:22] <Cromag> winnerrlz93: try use imgburn, it is very simple.
[02:22] <Pelo> crusie, what are you doing again ?
[02:22] <dr-raku> winnerrlz93, daemon is just a virtual cd emulation/program; NO
[02:22] <winnerrlz93> kk brb
[02:22] <winnerrlz93> oh ok
[02:23] <crusie> Pelo: trying to install that flash player for google and youtube
[02:23] <l00kp> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55434/
[02:23]  * rabidweezle notes to self that anyone who even thinks the word n00b needs to realize that in RL, no one gives a crap, because that same n00b could have that hottest wife, and be making 10 times the money you are, and doesn't have the time to learn a million things about his computer he just wants it to work
[02:23] <winnerrlz93> what about poweriso?
[02:23] <Pelo> crusie,  open a terminal and type  locate xpti.dat
[02:23] <dr-raku> winnerrlz93, yes
[02:23] <winnerrlz93> ok
[02:23] <crusie> tried that
[02:23] <crusie> Pelo: it doesn't find anything
[02:23] <CaPsULe> how can i make 512Mb swap?
[02:23] <TheLastDodo> rabidweezle: some people take computers far too seriously. :P
[02:23] <winnerrlz93> so if i take the files from the iso cd i mad how do i make into an iso image?
[02:23] <dr-raku> winnerrlz93, search for "burn image/iso" option on your burning app
[02:23] <rabidweezle> for real TheLastDodo
[02:24] <Leechzilla> hentaixp, my laptop specs state "(4pin) i.LINK® connector (IEEE 1394)", so that's Firewire 400, right?
[02:24] <Pelo> crusie, I have it in several temp folders under /home/user/.mozilla/firefox/.....default/
[02:24] <dr-raku> winnerrlz93, don't drag that iso file onto a new compilation/cd; it doesnt' work like that
[02:24] <l00kp> rabidweezel: my computer is my wife. She can be anything I want her to be. ^_^
[02:24] <hentaixp> yes Leechzilla
[02:24] <rabidweezle> it's just a tool, I don't see people going, if you aren't using a sears craftsman screwdriver you are a n00b
[02:24] <Leechzilla> 800 would have been nice :(
[02:24] <Pelo> crusie, and also in /usr/lib/firefox/components/
[02:24] <Cromag> winnerrlz93: you should have read a bit :) - you downloaded an ISO file from somewhere. That is what you have to use.
[02:25] <recon> fez: you ring?
[02:25] <crusie> Pelo: hmm so I guess my locate doesn't work ^^
[02:25] <l00kp>  rabidweezle notes to self that anyone who even thinks the word n00b needs to realize that in RL, no one gives a crap, because that same n00b could have that hottest wife, and be making 10 times the money you are, and doesn't have the time to learn a million things about his computer he just wants it to work
[02:25] <villnew> hey all, does anyone know of a way to stop NetworkManager from clobbering my /etc/resolv.conf file? Happy to have it do everything else it does
[02:25] <recon> fez: ...i'd rATHER YOU NOT.
[02:25] <Pelo> rabidweezle,  if you are using sears craftsman you are a noob.. stanley ftw
[02:26] <Pelo> crusie,  linux is case sensitive
[02:26] <crusie> Pelo: it's not to be found
[02:26] <rabidweezle> hehe, it was just an example, I don't use sears tools
[02:26] <Pelo> crusie,  maybe you donT' have any
[02:26] <fez> sorry i meant to say reckon
[02:26] <Pelo> crusie, you can also try with find
[02:26] <rabidweezle> I don't even think my tools have brands
[02:26] <fez> like those country fellas
[02:26] <speeddemon8803> Lilo LILO and LiLo are not the same file crusie :)
[02:26] <crusie> Pelo: still no sound tho
[02:26] <Pelo> rabidweezle, you are not getting out of it that easily,  you outed yourself
[02:26] <pawan> hi
[02:27] <SeekerX6> does flash work now?
[02:27] <crusie> Pelo: I got picture... so it must be install
[02:27] <Pelo> crusie, there is a search app in the places menu
[02:27] <speeddemon8803> Flash works in Hardy Heron
[02:27] <k1gwb> My computer just randomly shut off. It's done it twice now each time after running for about 12 hours. System log shows this "Feb  9 20:18:19 gwb01 syslogd 1.4.1#21ubuntu3: restart." when it booted back up but nothing unusual prior to it. Any way to figure out what made it shut off?
[02:27] <speeddemon8803> or you can find the fix on the forums
[02:27] <SeekerX6> does flash work on gusty gibbon?
[02:27] <speeddemon8803> for gutsy
[02:27] <Pelo> SeekerX6, yes
[02:27] <Pelo> for most
[02:27] <macogw> fez: yeah. the alternate cd is a text-based installer.  my system was very slow, but still a bit faster than windows when i did it.  xubuntu uses xfce which is like gnome but a bit lighter weight, so you might wanna get the altenrate xubuntu cd and install that
[02:27] <dr-raku> Seeker`, in GUTSY, yes it does
[02:27] <rabidweezle> pelo, getting out of what?
[02:27] <speeddemon8803> it does?
[02:27] <crusie> Pelo: tried that too... there simply isn't any file called that
[02:27] <macogw> speeddemon8803: there was an update today
[02:28] <SeekerX6> oh cool
[02:28] <speeddemon8803> really now
[02:28] <speeddemon8803> suhweet
[02:28] <rabidweezle> lol
[02:28] <speeddemon8803> thank you ubuntu gods!!!!
[02:28] <speeddemon8803> lol
[02:28] <rabidweezle> ok lol
[02:28] <scratchme> Hi all.  I'm trying to run secpanel with scp, but when I put in my password, it closes.  Is there any way to freeze the output just before it closes?
[02:28] <speeddemon8803> i wasnt aware of the update thanks :)
[02:28] <Pelo> crusie, that's all I ahve on this subject
[02:28] <Pelo> !enter | speeddemon8803
[02:28] <ubotu> speeddemon8803: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:28] <SeekerX6> speeddemon:  good thing I came and asked :)
[02:28] <speeddemon8803> pelo, im not using enter as a punctuation
[02:28] <unagi> anyone know how to recover your password for your nick on irc?
[02:29] <Starnestommy> unagi: go to #freenode and ask in there
[02:29] <speeddemon8803> im sorry that you feel that way, im also a beginner team member and ALSO know how to use the bot commands :)
[02:29] <rabidweezle> anyone remember the line with dpkg to reconfigure a package?
[02:29] <jasonUSA> i need help with runing network file on ubuntu with vlc
[02:29] <Pelo> MrUnagi, if you are already looged in you can just change it
[02:29] <Cromag> dpkg-reconfigure
[02:29] <Starnestommy> rabidweezle: dpkg-reconfigure package
[02:29] <SeekerX6> so if I install ubuntu-restricted-extras through add/remove - then that should get the flash working?
[02:29] <fez> very well
[02:29] <rabidweezle> thanks
[02:29] <fez> i will try the 7.10 alternate install cd
[02:29] <Cromag> hehe
[02:29] <Cromag> tough one ;)
[02:29] <MrUnagi> pelo it says that it was registered i dunno if i did but my passwords dont work
[02:29] <Pelo> fez,  I recommend you go for xubuntu , it is meant for older machines
[02:30] <Cromag> Pelo: thats the xfce something right ?
[02:30] <jasonUSA> when i try to play the movie with vlc and starts but no movie is played  and i could play the movie on windows can some one help?
[02:30] <Pelo> MrUnagi,  I was assuming you got identified automaticaly,  ask in #freenode
[02:30] <mike__> does any1 know the file id put ntfs-3g /dev/ect ect in to automaticcally mount a win partion at boot up?
[02:30] <Pelo> Cromag, yes,  I personnaly don'T care for it , but it is lighter
[02:30] <macogw> mike__: /etc/fstab
[02:31] <mike__> sweet thanks
[02:31] <Cromag> Pelo: ok, maybe i should give it a shot.
[02:31] <Cromag> nite.
[02:31] <Pelo> Cromag, g'night
[02:32] <jasonUSA> does any one know if thers a ap for ubuntu that will play network shares on my linux lappy?
[02:32] <crusie> Pelo: well maybe I should just learn to read what it says..
[02:32] <jasonUSA> with out copying the file
[02:32] <Pelo> Cromag, puppy linux is also good for older machine very light
[02:32] <Pelo> crusie, ?
[02:32] <fez> xubuntu eh? how does it differ
[02:32] <crusie> Pelo: I had to relog for it to wok :D
[02:32] <scratchme> I figured it out.  I needed TCL on the remote system.  thanks.
[02:32] <WorkingOnWise> is there any way to check if Compisite is on or off for the X server from the command line?
[02:33] <crdlb> WorkingOnWise: yup (looking it up, sec)
[02:33] <Pelo> jasonUSA, they all can , just mount the shared folder on your ubuntu machine
[02:33] <peabody> jasonUSA: are you trying to play movies from network shares or some such?
[02:33] <jasonUSA> ok so i go to the folder its in and right clik on the file and mount?
[02:33] <WorkingOnWise> crdlb: cool...ty, and where did u look...I hate asking these simple questions, but don't know where to look for the answers....
[02:34] <crdlb> WorkingOnWise: xdpyinfo -queryExtensions | grep -q Composite
[02:34] <crdlb> WorkingOnWise: look at /usr/bin/compiz :)
[02:34] <Pelo> jasonUSA,  can you see the folder from your computer ? yes ? ok,  open the app you want to read the file in and open the file from there
[02:34] <lulzturtle> Pelo, I've tried some port scanning sites. None of which could find any open ports. Will this keep me from connecting to my game server?
[02:34] <jasonUSA> ok
[02:34] <jasonUSA> i think i tryed that but ill do it agen
[02:34] <Pelo> lulzturtle, it shouldn't
[02:34] <jasonUSA> yes i can see it on my computer
[02:34] <Tyger> does anyone know why i can only get 24mb connection on my broadcom wireless?
[02:34] <jasonUSA> ty guys so much i love ubuntu
[02:34] <SeekerX6> Sweeeeeeeet.  Can watch youtube now.
[02:35] <lulzturtle> Pelo, I'm trying to connect to a dedicated server I made for Team Fortress 2. I wasn't sure if maybe ports were blocked.
[02:35] <speeddemon8803> does anybody know why my inte/pro wireless 3945ABG cuts the connection off randomly?
[02:35] <speeddemon8803> nobody on windows could figure it out, hp, or intel
[02:35] <dhinesh> hi
[02:35] <speeddemon8803> it happens on windows and linux
[02:35] <peabody> Tyger: Broadcom cards are pretty finicky.  Are you using the open source driver or the windows driver in ndiswrapper?
[02:35] <Pelo> lulzturtle, when you connect to a game server you are the one making the connection and the ports are opened accordingly , or some such,  I 'm not the best person to ask
[02:35] <jasonUSA> i dont see my network link on the vlc open file screen
[02:35] <lulzturtle> Pelo, Okey, thanks :)
[02:36] <Tyger> peabody: im using the bcm43xx-fwcutter...i dont think ive installed ndiswrapper
[02:36] <jasonUSA> buy i see in natuols
[02:36] <speeddemon8803> nautilus?
[02:36] <macogw> lulzturtle: ubuntu does not listen on any ports by default, so *inbound* connections are rejected.  outbound is wide open
[02:36] <Pelo> lulzturtle, try finding a channel for the game itself,  maybe you need to adjust some setting in the game
[02:36] <Drewnl09> can someone tell me why I can't get a connection to the internet with airport on my macbook when i use ubuntu live cd?
[02:36] <jasonUSA> yes
[02:36] <jasonUSA> sorry]
[02:36] <Pelo> laterfolks
[02:36] <Tyger> peabody: im only 10ft from my router and i can only get 61% connection...
[02:36] <echosystm`> is ftp ok to use on a lan, rather than smb?
[02:37] <echosystm`> i kind of can't be bothered setting up samba lol
[02:37] <macogw> speeddemon8803: the file browser and the thing that shows the bg image in gnome
[02:37] <Tyger> peabody: should i try the ndiswrapper?
[02:37] <speeddemon8803> tyger, i cant get ANY connection to my own router from my pc.
[02:37] <lulzturtle> macogw, so does that mean if the server I made on ubuntu has been told to use port 27015 for connections it will use it no problem?
[02:37] <macogw> lulzturtle: yep
[02:37] <peabody> Tyger: I would.  I have a broadcom and it behaves much better using the windows drivers with ndiswrapper
[02:37] <lulzturtle> macogw, Is there a way to test that?
[02:37] <macogw> lulzturtle: but if it's behind a router, you need to tell the router to forward that port to the server
[02:37] <speeddemon8803> Macogw i am aware of nautiuls, was just asking if i was reading it right.
[02:37] <macogw> speeddemon8803: oh ok sorry
[02:38] <Tyger> peabody: well i have the windows driver (bcmwl5.sys)....just not ndiswrapper...
[02:38] <lulzturtle> macogw, oh okey. I think it's behind my company's PIX router, probably out of luck in that case heh
[02:38] <dabbill> hurm i just installed swiftweasle32 but flash games seem to run in slow motion
[02:38] <macogw> lulzturtle: from outside you network you could try to telnet in on that port and if it connects, the port's open.  could also go to one of those websites that portscans you
[02:38] <speeddemon8803> As i said before I am very much so deep into ubuntu and linux...I definately know ubuntu like the back of my hand. :)
[02:38] <macogw> speeddemon8803: ive never seen your nick before *shrug*
[02:39] <lulzturtle> macogw, cool. I'd just love to get this Team Fortress 2 dedicated server running. I guess it's just not going to be :(
[02:39] <speeddemon8803> macogw...im a beginner forum team member..but thats ok, hardly anybody knows me. :)
[02:39] <peabody> Tyger: apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[02:39] <speeddemon8803> I am looked at as being a new user that doesnt know anything about the rules of the room or the forum...which is fine with me honestly.
[02:40] <jasonUSA> how how can i mount this movie file to play on my ubuntu comptuer?
[02:40] <WorkingOnWise> crdlb: will that return nothing if Composite is on?
[02:40] <lulzturtle> speeddemon8803, can you fix the kernel bug that keeps ubunut from running on my Dell Optiplex 320? hehe ;)
[02:40] <ConstyXIV> how do you use xrandr to vertically rotate your screen?
[02:40] <karlo> hi guys
[02:41] <karlo> i'm always posting at the absolute beginners thread
[02:41] <speeddemon8803> beginner team not kernel development lulzturtle ;)
[02:41] <crdlb> WorkingOnWise: it won't print anything either way, but it will return 0 if composite is on, and nonzero if it's off
[02:41] <lulzturtle> ubunut? lulz
[02:41] <jasonUSA> how how can i mount this movie file to play on my ubuntu comptuer?
[02:41] <karlo> hello...
[02:41] <ConstyXIV> jasonUSA: what sort of movie file?
[02:41] <speeddemon8803> thats a little beyond me lulzturtle :)
[02:41] <crdlb> WorkingOnWise: so you you just use thatcommand && something_that_requires_composite || run_this_if_no_composite
[02:41] <jasonUSA> i just want to play a movie like i did on windows its avi file
[02:41] <speeddemon8803> Hello karlo
[02:41] <crdlb> WorkingOnWise: or use an if statement
[02:42] <ConstyXIV> jasonUSA: it's not mount, just playing
[02:42] <jasonUSA> i try that
[02:42] <speeddemon8803> grrr my period key is broken!
[02:42] <jasonUSA> it opens but nothing is played
[02:42] <jasonUSA> im useing vlc
[02:43] <ConstyXIV> jasonUSA: install the "ubuntu-restricted-extras" package, then try to play it via totem
[02:43] <jasonUSA> ok
[02:43] <jasonUSA> i wil so
[02:43] <speeddemon8803> Note to user who said beginner team:If you are not getting answers from the forum of the beginner team please visit #ubuntuforums-beginners and ask in there. Thanks.
[02:44] <lulzturtle> speeddemon8803, can you help me run a dedicated steam server on ubuntu? I suck with the google and can't find any sites to help with the specifics of it :P
[02:44] <WorkingOnWise> crdlb: then that brings to another problem. I do not want composite on most of the time. Only if I am gonna show off Compiz-Fusion. I cant find how to turn it off in my xorg.conf. I have tried Composite "False" "Disabled" and "0", based on howto's and a person in the ##xorg channel....any ideas? Composite is stubborn. It wants to live!
[02:44] <karlo> i really need some help
[02:44] <jarred> is kde4 realy that good?
[02:44] <karlo> a few hours ago many are replying to my threads at ubuntu forums
[02:44] <karlo> now there are none
[02:44] <jarred> like
[02:44] <crdlb> WorkingOnWise: what is composite itself breaking? what video card?
[02:44] <speeddemon8803> I cant lulzturtle
[02:45] <dhinesh> jason> could u do that one
[02:46] <lulzturtle> that's cool speeddemon8803 :)
[02:46] <lulzturtle> well, it's bed time for the turtleman. Night everybody!
[02:46] <speeddemon8803> my poor wireless laptop barely has the capability to stay online let alone be a server :)
[02:46] <macogw> karlo: it's saturday night in the western hemisphere.  the americans are out partying and the europeans are asleep
[02:46] <speeddemon8803> goodnight turtleman :)
[02:47] <karlo> ah i see... here it's sunday morning
[02:47] <gtt> can someone explain to me why my /home partition has a size of 449gb, used space of 199mb, and free space of 426gb ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55429/
[02:47] <karlo> anyway if the terminal tells something like autoremove
[02:47] <karlo> do you think it's a good idea to remove it?
[02:47] <WorkingOnWise> crdlb: video is Nvidia 6100 in a laptop, works perfect. So much eyecandy my eye cavities have cavities :D But, I run 2 windows apps, both 3d, with wine. if I run them with compiz on, they break in strange ways. Wine is such a moving target still that i never know if the problem is wine or my app. Well, if composite is off totally, I cant accidentally run the apps with compiz enabled, and hopefull reduce my headaches
[02:47] <gtt> i mean, that's a difference of 15gigs which is a rather sizeable chunk?
[02:48] <dhinesh> jason> r u there
[02:48] <janne67> #ubuntu.fi
[02:48] <WorkingOnWise> crdlb: oh, the latest Nvidia proprietary drivers too..169.09 iirc
[02:48] <macogw>  karlo yes it means it was installed because something depended on it, but you removed whatever pulled it in, so now its just taking up space
[02:48]  * Kuwanger wonders why cpu usage spikes when switching windows.
[02:48] <ConstyXIV> karlo: autoremove means that another package depended on it, and that package was removed.  If you're not using it, you're clear
[02:49] <tim167> on my ThinkPad, lately the 'moon' icon (a moon-shaped led below my screen) is always blinking, what does this mean ?
[02:50] <sme^> Thanks cromag, D/L imgburn, I now have a bootable cd :)))
[02:50] <karlo> i'm really having difficult time installing the  xvidcap program
[02:50] <crusie> hm..
[02:50] <sme^> going to instal :)
[02:50] <adub> is there something that will let me install something on my symbian based phone i have symbian v3 phone
[02:50] <loa> hello, i have hibrnate ntfs partiotion, i can't mount it as read/write until i delete hibernation file. How i can delete file from ntfs without mount?
[02:50] <adub> is there something for linux that will let me install the .sis programs and what not
[02:50] <crusie> installing my flash player... but it says /usr/lib/mozilla isn't a valid dir?
[02:51] <jasonUSA> yes\
[02:51] <jasonUSA> im hear now
[02:51] <jasonUSA> i went to instal that package
[02:52] <dhinesh> jasonUSA> can u do that one
[02:52] <jasonUSA> wich one
[02:52] <jasonUSA> lol
[02:52] <jasonUSA> im soory
[02:52] <dhinesh> VLC play
 i found very durty solution :D
[02:52] <jasonUSA> you mean play a move on my computer?
[02:53] <jasonUSA> with vlc
[02:53] <jasonUSA> i did tjat
[02:53] <dhinesh> jasonUSA>yes
[02:53] <jasonUSA> it plays perfitly
[02:53] <dhinesh> jasonUSA>good
[02:54] <jasonUSA> )_)
[02:54] <jasonUSA> its almost done
[02:54] <Trunkz> Is it still possible to do a net install for ubuntu? :o
[02:54] <Trunkz> Did a quick google search a minute ago, all I'm getting are tftp-methods
[02:56] <dabbill> any one know a fix for flash games playing in slow motion
[02:57] <crusie> what's the command to move a file via the terminal ?
[02:57] <Pete_I> mv
[02:57] <dabbill> crusie mv
[02:57] <winnerrlz93> i installed ubuntu but when i try and boot it i get this find --set-root --ignore-floppies /ubuntu/install/boot/vmlinuz error 17: File not found
[02:57] <crusie> same with a dir ?
[02:57] <oddalot> hello, is there anyway to set a custom resolution within a resolution using ubuntu, kinda like the way you can in the powerstrip application from windows?
[02:57] <macogw> crusie: when in doubt, just delete all the vowels from a real word
 copy or move?
[02:57] <winnerrlz93> i installed ubuntu but when i try and boot it i get this find --set-root --ignore-floppies /ubuntu/install/boot/vmlinuz error 17: File not found
[02:57] <pawan> how to play happyhardcore radio in audacious
[02:58] <Kizzard> hey guys, my new laptop seems to work great with ubuntu, but the boot time is pretty slow and the screen remains black during the entire boot. any idea whats up, and how I could see what is slowing bootup down?
 Did you fix your problem with boot,
[02:58] <jasonUSA> dhinesh thanks so much works varry well
[02:58] <Kizzard> my older laptop with less ram and slower cpu booted much faster
 yes
[02:58] <ConstyXIV> is there a working (mostly stable, HTTPS works) GTK-WebKit browser yet?
[02:58] <dhinesh> jasonUSA > very glad
[02:58] <Leechzilla> http://www.pcnation.com/web/details.asp?affid=306&item=N25788 <-- Anyone know if this'll work with Ubuntu?
[02:58] <onats> hi, i'm planning to replace my AMD64 proc with an intel Core 2 Duo. I was wondering what is the best way to make my existing 64bit ubuntu compatible?
[02:58] <jasonUSA> it fixed my problem now i can get rid of my duel boot with windows
 you need create alone partition as /boot mount point
[02:58] <winnerrlz93> i installed ubuntu but when i try and boot it i get this find --set-root --ignore-floppies /ubuntu/install/boot/vmlinuz error 17: File not found
[02:59] <jasonUSA> i no longer need windows
[02:59] <winnerrlz93> any1
[02:59] <Kizzard> loa, oh?
 with ext3 file system
[02:59] <bad_cables> what a pile of crap: http://xubuntulinux.blogspot.com/2006/07/ubuntu-set-correct-dpi-for-x-server.html
[02:59] <Pete_I> keyring keeps asking me "enter password for default keyring to unlock" when it tries to connect to wifi. Doesn't have that problem on a wired network, any ideas how to fix it?
[02:59] <winnerrlz93> can any1 help me?
[02:59] <Kizzard> loa, so the ubuntu partition manager didnt do that for me?
[02:59] <Kizzard> loa, also, how does it help, what purpose does it serve
[02:59] <hassan> hello
[02:59] <hassan> i have a problem with grub
[02:59] <hassan> can anyone help ?
[02:59] <jasonUSA> good day ppl im gonna go watch a movie now )_)
[03:00] <hypercube> hi to all
[03:00] <crusie> hmm when I want to install that flash player I get an error saying WARNING: Please enter a valid installation path.
[03:00] <hypercube> im italian linux user
 You meant that grub is very slow?
[03:00] <winnerrlz93> can any1 help me plz
[03:00] <crusie> my install path is  /usr/lib/mozilla/
[03:00] <hypercube> i can install flash player
 There about 20 seconds, before grub menu appear?
[03:00] <Kizzard> loa, grub seems to be quick
[03:00] <hypercube> u should get the flash player in format tar.gz
[03:00] <Kizzard> no
[03:00] <Kizzard> its fast
[03:01] <Kizzard> grub is over in 10 secs
[03:01] <crusie> hypercube: I got it
[03:01] <hypercube> perfeche
[03:01] <crusie> hypercube: then what?
[03:01] <Kizzard> but then the screen stays black until login and it takes ~3 mins
[03:01] <hypercube> perfect
 Hmm... and when is slow down?
[03:01] <jsoft> Can anyone suggest a _decent_ imap client. Thunderbird is very buggy, as is kmail.
[03:01] <hypercube> u shoud unzip the file
[03:01] <crusie> hypercube: done
[03:01] <hypercube> and then
[03:01] <hypercube> sudo ./configure
[03:01] <winnerrlz93> can any1 help me
 try deinstall usplash and look what is the problem
[03:01] <hypercube> sudo make
[03:02] <hypercube> sudo make install
[03:02] <Kizzard> okay
[03:02] <crusie> aha..
[03:02] <Kizzard> loa, good idea
[03:02] <crusie> see that's where I went wrong
[03:02] <LjL> hypercube: no need to use sudo on configure and make, that can actually be harmful
[03:02] <jsoft> sudo for africa. /me likes s -
[03:02] <winnerrlz93> will some1 help me plz
[03:02] <hassan> hey
[03:02] <hassan> can anyone help me with grub
 vim /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:02] <crusie> I did sudo sh install_flash
[03:02] <hypercube> usplash get off my nuts too
[03:02] <hassan> got a big problem
[03:02] <loa> cut off splash command from menu.lst entries
[03:02] <winnerrlz93> i installed ubuntu but when i try and boot it i get this find --set-root --ignore-floppies /ubuntu/install/boot/vmlinuz error 17: File not found
[03:02] <winnerrlz93> some1 plz help
[03:02] <Kizzard> loa, yep
[03:03] <hypercube> cut off
[03:03] <hypercube> with the string
[03:03] <hypercube> nosplash
[03:03] <hypercube> therefore
[03:03] <hypercube> if the starting of the machine is slow
[03:03] <dev-null> hi all, i need shell (as a Far or Norton Commander) that can work with FTP. do u know&
[03:03] <hypercube> is cause of
[03:04] <inst1> hey guys ... i need some help getting a machine to boot the install cd ...
[03:04] <dev-null> ?
[03:04] <hypercube> ACPI
[03:04] <Kizzard> loa, can I disable the spash from there or do I actually need to uninstall it
[03:04] <Starnestommy> winnerrlz93: is this with the install CD or an hd install?
[03:04] <loa> nop
[03:04] <hypercube> disable it
[03:04] <loa> you can disable it from menu.lst
[03:04] <dev-null> ?
[03:04] <hypercube> editing menu.list
[03:04] <dev-null> hi all, i need shell (as a Far or Norton Commander) that can work with FTP. do u know&
[03:04] <hypercube> in the grub folder
[03:04] <Starnestommy> dev-null: mc?
[03:04] <jw144000> Question: How can I find the grub name for my external hard drive so I can correctly install grub to it? I'm on the Gutsy Gibbon Live CD.
[03:04] <dev-null> ?)
[03:05] <teknoprep> nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
 use grub =) it have his own command line with auto compition
[03:06] <ArielMT> dev-null: if you're using ubuntu or kubuntu, then you already have such a shell
[03:06] <winnerrlz93> will some1 plz help me
[03:06] <crusie> hypercube: no makefile found
[03:06] <ArielMT> dev-null: unless i misunderstand what you mean
[03:06] <jw144000> teknoprep: I typed the command you gave me, and I don't see anything in the text editor.
[03:07] <TheLastDodo> A quick question: does anyone know of Zunes working under Ubuntu? (well, Linux in general, really)
[03:07] <winnerrlz93> some1 plz help me
[03:07] <winnerrlz93> some1 plz help me
[03:07] <winnerrlz93> some1 plz help me
[03:07] <winnerrlz93> some1 plz help me
[03:07] <winnerrlz93> some1 plz help me
[03:07] <hypercube> i can
[03:07] <FloodBot3> winnerrlz93: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:07] <dev-null> ArielMT, oh i understand. the key world of my question was "mc")
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[03:07] <hypercube> wot kinda problem do u have?
[03:08] <winnerrlz93> i installed ubuntu but when i try and boot it i get this find --set-root --ignore-floppies /ubuntu/install/boot/vmlinuz error 17: File not found
[03:08] <winnerrlz93> that kind
[03:08] <Darkmystere> Hey i know its not help channel but im going to alot of Ubuntu channels trying to figure why it does this
 Everytime i try and test my network because thats basicly all i have to do lol it has to reset monitoring mode again well i have to anyways and that ends up with like 5+ diffrent interfaces in rising numbers..
[03:08] <Starnestommy> winnerrlz93: I think you may need to reinstall
[03:08] <hypercube> reinstall linux
[03:08] <dev-null> winnerrlz93, i have this problem too)
[03:08] <ArielMT> dev-null: ah.  yes, but mc is a console application.  if you want to stay gui, there's also a package called gentoo (not to be confused with the distro gentoo)
[03:08] <winnerrlz93> ugghh... do i have to go into my windows system to uninstall?
[03:09] <monte> can some one help me find the plugins to watch a dvd and watch vids on the internet
 you trying to instal kernel?
 can u show the non gui os
[03:09] <onats> anyone here who has successfully switched from 64-bit to 32-bit? without reinstall?
[03:09] <winnerrlz93> what?
[03:09] <ArielMT> dev-null: oops, i don't know if gentoo does ftp, though.  sorry for the confusion >.<
[03:09] <Trunkz> quick question guys, when doing a net install, ubuntu asks for my proxy settings. Does this look right? http://cache.lsbu.ac.uk[:port]/
[03:09] <loa> copy question for me
[03:09] <Dr_willis> !dvd | monte
[03:09] <ubotu> monte: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:09] <zcat[1]> anyone here familiar with the eee or know an IRC channel for it?
[03:09] <Trunkz> or are u not supposed to put the port number with those brackets?
[03:09] <Dr_willis> !w32codecs | monte
[03:09] <ubotu> monte: The Win32 codecs are available from the Medibuntu repositories (see « /msg ubotu medibuntu »), and for releases prior to Gutsy, also at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:09] <hypercube> dvd is a problem with linux
[03:09] <Dr_willis> hypercube,  i have very few problems with them. :)
[03:09] <dev-null> ArielMT, gentoo or gnome commander? what is the best? or this a private choose?
[03:09] <hypercube> ATI is a problem too
[03:10] <winnerrlz93> any1 got any advice?
[03:10] <Dr_willis> The legality of dvd playback is a problem.
 copy question for me
[03:10] <winnerrlz93> i installed ubuntu but when i try and boot it i get this find --set-root --ignore-floppies /ubuntu/install/boot/vmlinuz error 17: File not found
[03:10] <dhinesh> can u boot without xwindows
[03:10] <ArielMT> dev-null: ...  i really don't know.  it really depends on what you like and what you need.  again, sorry for confusing you.
[03:10] <Kizzard> loa, dude, thankyou!
[03:10] <hypercube> have u ever tried damn small linux?
[03:10] <insta> so guys, why does my ubuntu server hang halfway while booting the install CD?  it stops right after enabling /dev/sda which is any number of compact flash cards that i've tried
[03:11] <Kizzard> loa, it seems it was the splash itself that was causing the slowdown
[03:11] <dev-null> ArielMT, nevermind)
[03:11] <Kizzard> it booted really quick this time
[03:11] <loa> Kizzard ok
[03:11] <winnerrlz93> any advice?
 how you install ubuntu?
[03:11] <Kizzard> loa, any idea why the splash would cause that>
[03:11] <Kizzard> *?
[03:11] <winnerrlz93> the wubi-cdboot
[03:11] <Trunkz> How is Ubuntu's performance on the PS3? :o
 may be framebuffer driver
[03:12] <lhoerste> Trunkz: it's good
[03:12] <jw144000> I'm trying to figure out the grub name for my external hard drive, can anyone help me out?
[03:12] <Trunkz> lhoerste: Cool, I'm planning on setting it up as a download box
 may be /boot is corrupted?
[03:12] <Kizzard> loa, would the fact this laptop has an ATI card have anything to do with it?
[03:12] <winnerrlz93> how do i fix it?
 oh
[03:12] <hypercube> 05:11:48) Kizzard: loa, any idea why the splash would cause that> <-------------the configuration in upsplash.conf
[03:12] <lhoerste> Trunkz: yea man I'm working on it right now w/ a friend. it's all installed and stuff
[03:12] <Starnestommy> winnerrlz93: the only thing I can think of is reinstalling ubuntu
[03:12] <hypercube> in the dir /etc
[03:13] <lhoerste> Trunkz: now we're trying to get the controlers working
[03:13] <dev-null> ArielMT, gentoo sucks imho)
[03:13] <Kizzard> hypercube, thanks Ill check it out
 try to search what framebuffer driver more stable for ati
[03:13] <hypercube> u should insert the resolution of ur screen
[03:13] <dev-null> ArielMT, mc mach more cool
[03:13] <Kizzard> hypercube, ok
[03:13] <lhoerste> I'm looking for something that can make the desktop bigger than my screen (cause it's a TV and small) and then I can drag my mouse around the edges to move the viewing window
[03:13] <Trunkz> lhoerste: Nice, I'm just gonna go grab me a usb keyboard + mice combo and hook it up to the PS3
[03:13] <lhoerste> i'm not even sure what it's called... if someone could help me out there
[03:13] <lhoerste> i could google it then
[03:14] <hypercube> sudo gedit /etc/upslash.conf
[03:14] <Trunkz> or perhaps just set up VNC on the PS3, and control that via the Mac
[03:14] <Kizzard> ah dude you are right
[03:14] <fragged_> how do I force a resize of a window? wine keeps resizing Diablo 2 to about 32x2 :P
[03:14] <Kizzard> its set to 1280x1024
[03:14] <lhoerste> Trunkz: we are using synergy
[03:14] <hypercube> yeah
[03:14] <hypercube> ;D
[03:14] <lhoerste> Trunkz: check that out
[03:14] <Kizzard> completely wrong
[03:14] <Kizzard> thanks hypercube ^^
[03:14] <Trunkz> lhoerste: * googles *
[03:14] <hypercube> :)
[03:14] <hypercube> kizzard
[03:14] <hypercube> where do u come from?
[03:14] <Kizzard> UK
[03:14] <loa> hehe
[03:14] <Trunkz> lhoerste: Oh cool :o
[03:15] <loa> RU :D
[03:15] <Kizzard> ah cool
[03:15] <lhoerste> Trunkz: my friend is a windows user and just mouses over through that
[03:15] <Kizzard> where abouts?
[03:15] <hypercube> me?
[03:15] <teknoprep> jw144000, then your menu.lst is gone or you typed it in wrong
[03:15] <pawan> hi
[03:15] <hypercube> i'm from italy
[03:15] <Kizzard> yah, and where is loa in ru
[03:15] <hypercube> a shittiful nation
[03:15] <lhoerste> I'm looking for something that can make the desktop bigger than my screen (cause it's a TV and small) and then I can drag my mouse around the edges to move the viewing window. If someone could just tell me what this is called, that'd help a lot too.
[03:15] <Trunkz> lhoerste: Oh shoot, the mac port isnt very functional.. Great xD
[03:15] <lhoerste> Trunkz: just grab it off their site
 volgograd)
[03:15] <Kizzard> hypercube, lol
[03:16] <Trunkz> I'm (currently) setting up Ubuntu over in VMWare, so that I can have something to work on when the PS3 gets here
[03:16] <Trunkz> I am essentially buying the PS3 for Ubuntu + Blu Ray playback :)
[03:16] <Kizzard> loa, cool
[03:16] <pawan> how to play happyhardcore radio in audacious
[03:16] <jw144000> can anyone help me find the grub name for my external hard drive?
[03:16] <Nutubuntu> I have made a stupid error and formatted /home. Is there any way to "unformat" and get my old /home back?
 yes
[03:16] <jw144000> ok
 whereis located your boot mount point?
[03:17] <jw144000> loa: do you mind if I PM you?
[03:17] <Kizzard> ok guys going to retry with the splash enabled again :)
[03:17] <mahmoud2> Nutubuntu: short answer: No
[03:17] <Kizzard> brb
[03:18] <Nutubuntu> thanks, mahmoud2 - I figured as much
 try
[03:18] <Nutubuntu> mahmoud2: is there a "long" answer that does not amount to "no"? ... :/
[03:18] <lhoerste> I'm looking for something that can make the desktop bigger than my screen (cause it's a TV and small) and then I can drag my mouse around the edges to move the viewing window. If someone could just tell me what this is called, that'd help a lot too.
[03:19] <mahmoud2> Nutubuntu: If there is not something that you can never return back and it is very important that do not bother ..
[03:19] <dev-null> i make script (!#bin/bash.....) and now wont to make different icon of its file. how  can i do it?
[03:20] <dabbill> i just went through the howto on the fourms, but still cant get sound from youtube.com videos
[03:20] <Jangari> lhoerste: if you hold super (windows/mac button) and scroll up or down, it should zoom,
[03:20] <Nutubuntu> mahmoud2: there is a fair amount of work there I wish I could recover ... I have been very annoyed with myself for making such a stupid mistake
[03:20] <lhoerste> Jangari: thanks
[03:20] <mahmoud2> Nutubuntu: Is it ext3?
[03:20] <lhoerste> Jangari: that doesn't work
[03:21] <Jangari> hmm, have you got compiz-fusion?
[03:21] <pocketwatch> lhoerste, if you just increase your screen resolution (to larger than actual) it should do what you want automatically
[03:21] <Nutubuntu> mahmoud2: yes, ext3 now (and ext3 before too, if that makes a difference)
[03:21] <lhoerste> pocketwatch: it's not giving a choice besides the default res
[03:22] <Jangari> pocketwatch: i suspect that larger screen resolutions won't be an option if the monitor doesn't support them
[03:22] <lhoerste> Jangari: yea that's true. the TV wont even work then
[03:22] <lhoerste> is there a program that can do what i'm asking?
[03:22] <pocketwatch> lhoerste, go to system > administration > screens and resolutions to set up resolutions first
[03:23] <lhoerste> i think it's like a "vitrually larger desktop?"
[03:23] <lhoerste> pocketwatch: there is only one res in that dropdown
[03:23] <mahmoud2> Nutubuntu: My advice is to spend time redoing that work than trying undelete software. AFAIK, ext3 is hard to recover (with the published tools
[03:23] <lhoerste> pocketwatch: oh actually this is a diff menu than I thought. Lemme try that
[03:23] <echosystm`> guys, if i am running fluxbox, would i be better off using gtk or qt apps?
[03:23] <Nutubuntu> mahmoud2: thank you again. I was afraid that must be true. :/
[03:23] <echosystm`> which one has the smaller libraries
[03:24] <hypercube> who use damn small linux here?
[03:25] <hrnt> there is this vmsplice exploit going around. can i just do apt-get upgrade protect my system?
[03:27] <Vadi> If the sound in several games suddenly stopped working.. what to check?
[03:27] <badkitty> Good evening
[03:28] <badkitty> Wow channels dead?
[03:28] <badkitty> thats a first
[03:28] <deathface> no
[03:28] <deathface> not really
[03:29] <lhoerste> pocketwatch: I can't make the resolution any bigger. only smaller
[03:29] <badkitty> Anyone know off hand if mythtv has a windows front-end??
[03:30] <Dr_willis> badkitty,  mythtv can work as a upnp server. so you can use that feature under windows.
[03:30] <Dr_willis> there was a mythtv front end for windows - but it was very out of date
[03:30] <LetsGo67> My computer crashes when Ubunthree tries to load Intei GM4 3926X, can someone help please?
[03:30] <craigbass1976> I've just booted up to the gutsy livecd, and end up at login screen.  Nothing works.  Bad iso? bad burn?  I can't tell reading the forums
[03:30] <evert> hi all
[03:31] <badkitty> Dr_willis: Well what I mean is does there happen to be a graphical front end to interface with it using windows
[03:31] <Pal_> hi evert
[03:31] <LetsGo67> craigbass1976: specs?
 yeh.. try blank password
[03:31] <craigbass1976> Of the box?
[03:31] <Dr_willis> badkitty,  mythtv has a web interface you can use to set/controll things
[03:31] <loa> if not working redownload
[03:31] <evert> I'm having a little question, is there anyway to get ubuntu server on my freebsd server with only ssh acces ? (with virtualbox or vmware or such)
[03:31] <Vadi> How can I restart the sound server?
[03:31] <LetsGo67> craigbass1976: yes (the PC)
[03:32] <badkitty> Dr_willis: Oh.. So Im gonna need to set up apache too then?
[03:32] <LetsGo67> craigbass1976: or Mac
[03:32] <pawan> hi
 try XEN
[03:32] <craigbass1976> PC
[03:32] <Dr_willis> badkitty,  mythtv uses a lot of extra services and stuff. :)
[03:32] <craigbass1976> no pass doesnt' matter
[03:32] <LetsGo67> Guys, Ubunthree always crashes on 68249, can someone help please?
[03:32] <pocketwatch> lhoerste, i'm trying to remember what it's called, i used to use that on my laptop
[03:32] <Keddy> What's the difference between Beryl and Compiz ? Or are they same thing in general ?
[03:33] <Tailsfan> Hello, I was just curious, but is there anything that's like Dragon NaturallySpeaking for Linux?
[03:33] <Dr_willis> !beryl | Keddy
[03:33] <ubotu> Keddy: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[03:33] <LetsGo67> Keddy: Compiz first, then Beryl, then Compiz Fusion.
[03:33] <lhoerste> pocketwatch: awesome. at least I know I'm not crazy =)
[03:33] <Keddy> i see :)
[03:33] <Keddy> thanx a lot
 what is ubunthree
[03:34] <lhoerste> pocketwatch: mind trying to google for it?
[03:34] <thinman1189> hey everyone. i'm having some trouble with my internet. i switched from wireless to wired to flash my firmware. i did'nt actually flash it, that's not the issue. anyway i went to go reconnect to my wireless and i can't for some reason. what's the command to reboot my net? i tried rebooting my computer but it won't work.
[03:34] <LetsGo67> Keddy, no problem man.
[03:34] <LetsGo67> Loa, I don't know, what is Mewthree?
[03:34] <_evert_> loa: that doens't work with ssh afaik
[03:34] <pawan> how to play happyhardcore radio in audacious
[03:35] <Decinoge> FloodBot1, give me op
 sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:35] <soldats> lhoerste: whats the prob
[03:35] <Starnestommy> Decinoge: asking for ops will not make you an op
[03:35] <_Oz_> hello all
[03:35] <Decinoge> lol.. seriously?
[03:35] <_Oz_> been playing with compiz all day
[03:35] <Decinoge> i didn't knew
[03:36] <lhoerste> I'm looking for something that can make the desktop bigger than my screen (cause it's a TV and small) and then I can drag my mouse around the edges to move the viewing window. If someone could just tell me what this is called, that'd help a lot too.
[03:36] <speeddemon8803> !hi | _Oz_
[03:36] <ubotu> _Oz_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:36] <lhoerste> soldats: ^^
[03:36] <cabrioleur> thinman1189: try "sudo /etc/rc0.d/S15wpa-ifupdown restart" in terminal
[03:36] <_Oz_> hi speeddomon
[03:36] <hieppo> hello anyone experience with ati x1250 video?
[03:36] <cabrioleur> thinman1189: but reboot would do the same
[03:36] <_Oz_> well, I am finally hitting some practical limits in my quest to ditch XP altogether for ubuntu
[03:36] <hieppo> specifically with enabling dual monitor?
[03:37] <_Oz_> problem: you can't really run m$ word and excel perfectly, and adobe photoshop cs2 is not production-quality.
[03:37] <macogw> lhoerste: i called it "oops" when it happened to me
[03:37] <sier> hieppo,  I searched a little, and got mine to work in 20 min.. (nvidia )
[03:37] <Tailsfan> !ubotu \speech-to-text
[03:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about speech-to-text - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:37] <deathface> speach to text haha
[03:37] <hieppo> I know about nvidia. I had it working with an nvidia card too. it is quite easy compared to ati drivers
[03:37] <macogw> _Oz_: install virtualbox and run windows in a vm then
[03:37] <Tailsfan> Funny, but I like using it
[03:37] <CARRESS> Hi, I have an installation question...should I ask here or is there another channel I should be in?
[03:37] <thinman1189> loa, it didn't work. cabrioleur, i've tried rebooting my computer, do you mean that rebooting or what loa said?
[03:37] <Tailsfan> this is the right channel
[03:38] <hieppo> my current setup has a monitor on dvi and a projector on hdmi
[03:38] <_Oz_> macogw: how's the performance penalty?
[03:38] <macogw> _Oz_: virtualbox can do that mode parallels does where the programs that are running in Windows are just floating on your desktop instead of inside a box
[03:38] <macogw> _Oz_: smaller than with vmware
[03:38] <_Oz_> can I really design in adobe photoshop without a huge hit?
[03:38] <_Oz_> mm
[03:38] <_Oz_> I like the idea of a parallels-style interface
 look at your settings vim /etc/network/interfaces
[03:38] <macogw> _Oz_: virtualbox is the fastest virtual machine, based on the benchmarks i saw, if you pre-allocate the hard drive space (setting "dynamic" so it resizes as you use space makes it very slow though)
 route -n
[03:38] <shear> seriously...they push a firefox update down that breaks flash. right on
[03:38] <cabrioleur> thinman1189: both, what I said and what he said, is done during reboot as well.
[03:39] <CARRESS> ok..here's the question- keep in mind, I've joined the ubuntu forum, and I've googled and read a few documents.
[03:39] <Jordan_U> _Oz_, You mean where each windows application has it's own window?
[03:39] <CARRESS> It doesn't seem like anyone is addressing a brand new hd w/o an os installed, and I remember reading once that in order to dual boot, windows had to go on first...
[03:39] <pocketwatch> lhoerste, edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. look for a line called "Virtual" and change the resolution (back it up first!)
[03:39] <_Oz_> I need to play a bit with virtualbox
[03:39] <_Oz_> it doesn't look super user-friendly
 I think you reconfigure something wrong...
[03:39] <_Oz_> then again, I'm an idiot
[03:39] <ArielMT> _Oz_: yup.  you'll need to install windows in a virtualbox vm, but once you have that and the virtualbox driver installed in windows, your windows windows and ubuntu windows can be side-by-side :D
[03:39] <badkitty> CARRESS: It doesnt have to go on first, it just makes it way easier to setup
 i think it is very userfriendly)
[03:40] <thinman1189> loa, all i did was turn off my wireless and turn on wired. the settings look the same but it won't work
[03:40] <_Oz_> arielmt: I will do it.
[03:40] <CARRESS> bad, ok.. so I  should put on windows first, and partition the hd thru windows?
[03:40] <_Oz_> I wish we could get M$' apps to be truly and 100% compatible in linux
[03:40] <_Oz_> I have no choice but to use them, everyone at my office uses office
[03:40] <Jordan_U> _Oz_, I wish we didn't need to :)
[03:40] <badkitty> CARRESS: Yes, infact if you can partition the drive before you install windows, thats the easiest
[03:40] <_Oz_> converting them will be impossible :)
[03:41] <_Oz_> jordan_U: I am with you there.
 show me your ifconfig and route -n, and describe what connection you want create
[03:41] <_Oz_> I hate M$.
[03:41] <macogw> _Oz_: http://blog.gobanquet.com/index.php/virtualbox-15-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/
[03:41] <_Oz_> Hate the way they make me jump through hoops.\
[03:41] <CARRESS> partition it using what?  I'm rather green...
[03:41] <_Oz_> ah, thanks, macogw.
[03:41] <speeddemon8803> !factoid speech-to-text
[03:41] <macogw> _Oz_: note that the "the bad" that says there are no packages for the open source edition is now wrong.  it's virtualbox-ose in the repos
[03:41] <cabrioleur> _Oz_: OpenOffice filters for excell and word don't work for you?
[03:41] <CARRESS> badkitty partition it using what?  I'm rather green...
[03:42] <_Oz_> cabrioleur: the problem is I work on fairly complex spreadsheets which are then passed off to other people in the office
[03:42] <badkitty> CARRESS: There are a ton of partitioners you can download for free and make a live boot cd from to do this.. Many of the HDD cd's come with partitioners as well
[03:42] <macogw> _Oz_: i dont know what else has changed since the article was written. i dont use that mode.  itd be silly when my virtual machine is debian without X :P
[03:42] <_Oz_> openoffice is fine for simple stuff, but if you dig past skin deep it's not really compatible with office 2003
[03:42] <ArielMT> can OOo understand office 2k7's format?
[03:42] <lhoerste> pocketwatch: there is no "Virtual" line
[03:42] <cabrioleur> _Oz_: if you use Office 2003 consider CrossOffice.
[03:42] <badkitty> CARRESS: You have a brand new HDD right?
[03:42] <CARRESS> badkitty, yes
[03:42] <cylex> What port do I need open to recieve email?
[03:43] <_Oz_> cabrioleur: I did.  crossoffice doesn't really support it 100%.  the only "gold" status they give is to office 2000, which is too old.
[03:43] <badkitty> CARRESS: What brand is it? Did it come with a CD?
[03:43] <speeddemon8803> cylex it depends on your isp
[03:43] <cylex> speeddemon8803: my isp allows port 25 to be open, but I thought it was to send th email
[03:43] <badkitty> BRB CARRESS
[03:43] <CARRESS> badkitty  it's a toshiba, no cd..  but I do have my toshiba recovery disk (w. xp)that came w/ the laptop initially...
[03:43] <jack-desktop> how can i set my firefox font to "Sans" if it doesn't have the font in the font list
[03:43] <shear> hmm, anyone heard anything about flash breaking with the firefox update that got sent down a day or two ago?
[03:44] <speeddemon8803> breaking?
[03:44] <loa> I found cool option in ntfs-3g - remove_hiberfile
[03:44] <loa> :D
[03:44] <thinman1189> loa : what should i give you?
[03:44] <speeddemon8803> Flash was fixed with the update a few days ago supposedly.
[03:44] <astro76> jack-desktop: is bitstream vera sans in the list? because that's what sans links to
[03:44] <shear> speeddemon8803: as in, winds up like it's gonna play, then nothing
[03:44] <loa> ntfs-3g is very friendly ЖВ
[03:44] <speeddemon8803> mine has no issues...hmmm
[03:44] <danbhfive> shear: is flash broken for you?
[03:44] <shear> speeddemon8803: it worked for me before, and now not
[03:45] <cylex> I have postfix set up, what port does it use to send email and what port does it use to receive email
[03:45] <shear> danbhfive: yes
[03:45] <cylex> someone please answer :)
 ifconfig and route -n, and describe what network connection you must have
[03:45] <jack-desktop> astro76, yes! thanks. go astros ;p
[03:45] <speeddemon8803> !repeat
[03:45] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:45] <Flashq009> how do I get webpages designed with MSfrontpage, using templates, to display images in apache with extension .htm?  I have already put the  index.htm and all files in /www.  Cannot seem to see the template images displayed.  Any help would be appreciated.
[03:45] <danbhfive> shear: here is a command to attempt a reinstall, see if that works sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-nonfree
[03:45] <shear> danbhfive: trying...
 netstat -n
[03:45] <cylex> loa: thx
[03:46] <thinman1189> loa : gimme a min in order to do that i have to save it to my usb drive and put it on this comp
[03:46] <macogw> ArielMT: yes, OOo 2.3 can open O2k7.  I don't think it can save to it though.  3.0 (due in september) should be able to.
[03:46] <MrPiracy> i have just updated ubuntu gutsy gibbon and all my video settings are gone. i was using i810 with a intel 946gz chipset with no problems. any help?
[03:46] <cylex> Is it safe to leave port 25 open for others?
 ifconfig
[03:46] <ArielMT> macogw: cool.  thanks.
 route -n
[03:46] <badkitty> BACK
[03:47] <macogw> MrPiracy: it switched you to the new intel drivers, right?
[03:47] <thinman1189> loa : yeah but i need to copy all that output from my ubuntu box to this one before i can show you
 and describe your network connection, what settings you need.
[03:47] <badkitty> CARRESS: No that wont have it I dont think
[03:47] <iblastoff2> no one would happen to have a d-link usb dwl-g122 (rev a1) wireless adapter would they? didn't work in dapper..2 years later and im trying gutsty still with no luck in getting it to work
[03:47] <cabrioleur> cylex, no.
[03:47] <thinman1189> loa : i need a static ip, my network is a router and a repeater.
[03:48] <cylex> cabrioleur: if I close port 25 then how will I send email
[03:48] <cylex> I setup saslauthd
[03:48] <badkitty> CARRESS: Lets see .. google search live CD partitioner? I think BartPE had one lemme see
 try ifconfig eth0 ip
[03:48] <MrPiracy> macogw: nope, it switched me to VESA, when i try to set it back to i810 or intel, it doesnt work ... after reboot i am presented to a message saying my screen/graphics could not be detected
 where eth0 your interface
[03:48] <cabrioleur> if you close incoming you should be fine.
[03:48] <thiemster> is there anyway to get a canon canoscan 8600f scanner working with ubuntu?
[03:48] <speeddemon8803> Carress...you can try gparted...it has a live cd :)
[03:48] <K_Dallas> Q: I installed KDE + a few chess programs etc and now I have lost my wireless connection to the home wlan.  On the same machine wlan works under windows. How do i resolve this problem? Thanks (right now i am on windows)
[03:49] <speeddemon8803> its the gnome partition editor
[03:49] <lhoerste> pocketwatch: genius!
 and if you need gateway... then route add default gw 192.168.0.1
[03:49] <lhoerste> pocketwatch: it worked
[03:49] <danbhfive> CARRESS: the ubuntu livecd has gparted on it, if you can run that
[03:49] <cylex> thinman1189: i know a tutorial, that'll give u static ip under ubuntu.. if you just give me a min
 where ip is your gateway
[03:49] <cabrioleur> cylex: are you running mail server on ubuntu?
[03:49] <CARRESS> speed - I checked out gparted, I just was hesitant to do it if I needed to have windows installed first.
[03:49] <thiemster> is there anyway to get a canoscan 8600f scanner working in ubuntu?
[03:49] <pocketwatch> lhoerste, im glad you figured it out, because iwas running out of ideas ><
[03:49] <LinuxMercedes> I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu 6 =[
[03:49] <CARRESS> bad - windows is on there, I've used it to reinstall after a viral infection before...
[03:49] <cylex> cabrioleur : yes
[03:49] <thinman1189> cylex it was working perfectly before but then i switched from wireless to wired for a min and now i can't get back
[03:49] <K_Dallas> (bte, i also installed php, mysql, apache)
[03:49] <Flashq009> does anyone know how to get images with .htm to display in apache?
[03:50] <cabrioleur> cylex: in this case you cannot really close it :-)
[03:50] <d3ads0ul> anyone around that can help me with burning dvds?
[03:50] <badkitty> CARRESS: Wait a sec do you have an actual windows disk or only the reccovery disk
[03:50] <CARRESS> dan - I have the cd..just really wanted to check about the windows thing..if I used gparted  is it still harder to put windows on later?
[03:50] <cylex> cabriolerus: ok .. so postfix with saslauthd is ok?
[03:50] <thinman1189> lao how do i know which eth it is?
[03:50] <lhoerste> pocketwatch: yea we were googling while getting ideas from you and happened to find a config which coencided w/ what you said
[03:50] <Dr_willis> d3ads0ul,  you mean making data dvd's or VIDEO dvd's ?
[03:50] <CARRESS> badkitty - no just the recovery disk
[03:50] <badkitty> CARRESS: Put windows on first
[03:51] <d3ads0ul> Dr_willis im trying to burn an .iso
[03:51] <echo-y-y> can someone help me figure out why fonts in epiphany (or even firefox) are much uglier than they look in windows? and how i can fix it?
[03:51] <danbhfive> !who | CARRESS
[03:51] <ubotu> CARRESS: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[03:51] <d3ads0ul> :-( unable to WRITE@LBA=0h: Input/output error
[03:51] <d3ads0ul> :-( write failed: Input/output error
[03:51] <echo-y-y> !tab test
[03:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tab test - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:51] <badkitty> CARRESS: do you have or can you get access to partition magic? I guess the disk SHOULD be able to resize your windows disk and install ubuntu .. that should work
[03:51] <CARRESS> danbhfive...ok
[03:51] <cylex> thinman1189: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_server_ubuntu7.10_p3      go to step 7
[03:51] <cabrioleur> echo-y-y: change the font to whatever you are used to in windows.
[03:51] <shear> danbhfive: it's working now, but it's thrashing the CPU. running at 100% solid and I the video is quite choppy. (using youtube to test)
[03:51] <thiemster> !who
[03:51] <ubotu> As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[03:51] <cabrioleur> echo-y-y: they are better looking thought...
[03:52] <CARRESS> badkitty - not sure HOW to get it, but if I can find it via google, I can get it..
[03:52] <thinman1189> lao if i type in ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 then it says SIOCSIFADDR: Permission denied SIOCSIFFLAGS: Permission denied
[03:52] <Jordan_U> when I try to use perl style regular expressions with grep (  grep --perl-regexp ) I get the error : "grep: The -P option is not supported" but it's in the man page as an option, is there something that I need to do to add support for this?
 you talking about opera?
[03:52] <cylex> thinman1189: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_server_ubuntu7.10_p3      go to step 7
[03:52] <thinman1189> cylex it was working perfectly before but then i switched from wireless to wired for a min and now i can't get back. i'll check that link
[03:52] <Starnestommy> thinman1189: try sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1
[03:52] <shear> loa: firefox
[03:52] <danbhfive> shear: hmmm, well, I don't know, maybe a reboot will fix that?  I really have no idea about that
[03:52] <echo-y-y> cabrioleur: i know i can change ubuntu's appearance to use subpixel smoothing (which i suppose is similar to 'cleartype')... but i can't seem to make changes that effect my web browsers (epiphany and firefox)
[03:52] <badkitty> CARRESS: I would just go ahead and install windows ... then ubuntu should do the rest, just pay attention to the settings when it talks about resizing or partitioning
[03:52] <cylex> thinman1189 : also check if other comp didn't take it
 amd64 ?
[03:52] <cylex> thinman1189 : try pinging the ip
[03:52] <shear> danbhfive: will try. thanks
[03:53] <shear> loa: yes
[03:53] <CARRESS> badkitty, that's what I'll do. Thanks.
[03:53] <badkitty> CARRESS: But windows goes first ... if you want to make things easy on yourself
[03:53] <lhoerste> does anyone remember that post in the forums about the flash fix?
[03:53] <shear> loa: not amd64 ubuntu though
[03:53] <lhoerste> the bot used to tell us how to goet it
[03:53] <Flashq009> anyone know how to get images with (.htm)  extensions to display in apache?
[03:53] <cylex> If I close port 25, I wont receive email?
[03:53] <cabrioleur> echo-y-y: it's the same setup. Try different font (you can use windows fonts as well).
[03:53] <iblastoff> no one would happen to have a d-link usb dwl-g122 (rev a1) wireless adapter would they? didn't work in dapper..2 years later and im trying gutsty still with no luck in getting it to work
[03:53] <cylex> Flashq009: you are looking for program to download the website?   lookup wget
 hmm, what you mean, you use i686?
[03:54] <punkgy> does anybody know how I can check to see if my serial ports are being detected?
[03:54] <CARRESS> Thanks all
[03:54] <shear> loa: using i386, when i installed, too much stuff didn't work under amd64
[03:54] <thinman1189> cylex, how do i ping it?
[03:54] <MrPiracy> i have just updated ubuntu gutsy gibbon and all my video settings are gone. i was using i810 with a intel 946gz chipset with no problems. any help?
[03:54] <kingz> hello
[03:54] <thinman1189> cylex : i'm on a windows laptop atm
[03:55] <cylex> thinman1189 : lol.. ping ipaddress
 yeh) under amd64 you need nswrapper
[03:55] <loa> )
[03:55] <saphire> Konnichiwa! Genki desu ka?
[03:55] <loa> another buggy solution)
[03:55] <kingz> people i'm running linux ubuntu 7.10 and how to change this kingz@kingz-secure
[03:55] <lhoerste> loa: does that work on PS3 arch as well?
[03:55] <pocketwatch> cylex, if you close 25 you won't send mail from your own server on 25
[03:55] <echo-y-y> cabrioleur:  when i make changes in system-->appearance-->font, i will see changes in subpixel smoothing in the title bar of the browser.. but it does not subpixel smooth the actual fonts within the browser itself (like any results from a google search)
[03:55] <nano_> Hi
[03:55] <kingz> i wants to chage the hostmask kingz-secure
[03:55] <nano_> whose in charge here
[03:55] <shear> loa: so with the flash update, i need to run firefox with nswrapper? i never had to before, what changed?
[03:55] <Starnestommy> kingz: use the hostname command
[03:55] <thinman1189> cylx i typed ping and the static ip adress and it timed out
[03:55] <cylex> pocketwatch: will I be able to receive emails?
[03:55] <macogw> saphire: #ubuntu-jp ni itte kudasai
[03:55] <MrPiracy> how can i restore my screen settings?
[03:56] <K_Dallas> Q: I installed KDE + a few chess programs etc and now I have lost my wireless connection to the home wlan.  On the same machine wlan works under windows. How do i resolve this problem? Thanks (right now i am on windows)
[03:56] <speeddemon8803> !jp
[03:56] <ubotu> 日本語の場合は #ubuntu-jp または #kubuntu-jp を参照して下さい
[03:56] <cylex> thinman1189 : cool , so its not taken.. use the tutorial to setup under ubuntu
[03:56] <pocketwatch> cylex, are you using pop/imap from another server or are you running yoru own mail server?
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> nano_: Just ask your question
[03:56] <kingz> Starnestommy: please tell me how to change it
[03:56] <cylex> pocketwatch: own mail server
[03:56] <whyameye> shear: I'm just tuning in. If you are running 64 bit linux you need the wraper. otherwise you shouldn't.
 i have no problem with flash on my i686 box
[03:56] <macogw> speeddemon8803: i just told him that...basically
[03:56] <saphire> LOL I speak english, just wanted to see if anyone spoke JP...
 all is out of box
[03:56] <cabrioleur> nano_: the great flying spagetti monster.
[03:56] <kingz> Starnestommy: please tell me how to change it
[03:56] <echo-y-y> nano: i am in charge
[03:56] <macogw> saphire: baka!
[03:56] <pocketwatch> cylex, 25 is what sendmail/etc uses to send it. 130 iirc is incoming mail
[03:56] <shear> whyameye: that's what i thought, and I'm not running the 64bit version
[03:56] <kingz> Starnestommy: tell me the command pls
 flash comes with restricted packets
[03:57] <MrPiracy> saphire: lol i understand konishiwa
[03:57] <Starnestommy> kingz: the 'hostname' command
[03:57] <thinman1189> cylex : what i don't get is that this worked until 20mins ago when i quickly switched from wireless to wired.
[03:57] <saphire> ^.^
[03:57] <saphire> How is everyone?
[03:57] <kingz> Starnestommy: when i type i read only kingz-secure
[03:57] <punkgy> does anybody know how to get the serial console connection to a cisco switch to work (ie what program to use)
[03:57] <speeddemon8803> I just use the bot, its a lot easier to type in a small command than type in a whole line saying "this room's official language is english"
[03:57] <kingz> i wants to change kingz-secure to kingz
[03:57] <echo-y-y> cabrioleur:  what font do you use in epiphany?
[03:57] <Starnestommy> kingz: sudo hostname kingz
[03:57] <macogw> saphire: probably wakarimasen, because of you :P
[03:57] <Flashq009> cylex>>not to download website, but to host website that I created in MS Frontpage 2003 using templates.  I have put the index.htm file and other files in the www folder, but cannot seem to get images with have (.htm) to display in apache.  Any help would be appreciated.
[03:57] <cylex> thinman1189 : so the tutorial don't work?
[03:57] <shear> loa: i've got it installed. I've been running this install for 2 years now, but flash just broke with an update.
[03:57] <thinman1189> cylex : trying it now
[03:58] <cylex> thinman1189 : k
[03:58] <macogw> Flashq009: images dont end in .htm
[03:58] <d3ads0ul> If someone could help me with burning dvds, please send me a pm
 try to use old deb
[03:58] <monte> hey does anyone in here have aim that can talk me through to get some plugins for some stuff
[03:58] <cylex> Flashq009: you can set it up under mimetypes
[03:58] <saphire> macogw: I only know a little japanese... Im learning...
[03:58] <LinuxMercedes> I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu.  It gets 93% into the install and then stops
[03:58] <cabrioleur> echo-y-y: I don't use epiphany.
[03:58] <macogw> saphire: me too, why do you think i switched to ingrish?
[03:58] <cylex> Flashq009: look through your apache2 directory and search for mimetypes
[03:58] <kingz> Starnestommy: i type that and now i can't open terminal or any folder :S
[03:58] <saphire> LOL
[03:59] <kingz> Starnestommy: i type that and now i can't open terminal or any folder :S help me please how to fix that :S
[03:59] <Snow> Anyone know of a way I can encrypt text in a text-file?
[03:59] <Flashq009> cylex>> looking for mimetypes.  What are mimetypes?
[03:59] <echo-y-y> my text in terminal is much cleaner and easier to read that my text in epiphany... is there any way i can just make epiphany's font look like terminal?
[03:59] <speeddemon8803> !md5
[03:59] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[03:59] <Starnestommy> kingz: you'll need to change it back to kingz-secure or you'll need to restart
 i update my hardy today... now i sturt page with few flash banners, all is all right)
[03:59] <kingz> omg
[04:00] <ArielMT> kingz: log out and log back in.  when you changed your hostname, your x session lost its authentication
[04:00] <mahmoud2> Snow: GPG (GnuPG)
[04:00] <kingz> :S
[04:00] <astro76> !gpg | Snow
[04:00] <ubotu> Snow: gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[04:00] <kingz> Starnestommy: i can't change it back
[04:00] <kingz> Starnestommy: i can't open terminal
[04:00] <loa> :D
[04:00] <Snow> Thank you
[04:00] <ArielMT> a full reboot shouldn't be needed, but that works too.  just log out and log back in
[04:00] <Starnestommy> kingz: hit ctrl+alt+f2 then type that command in after you log in
[04:00] <monte> can some one help me with all the plugins for movies and watch vids off websites
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted
[04:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:01] <thiemster> monte: you need flash and java
[04:01] <Dr_willis> monte,  install the w32codec pack from the medibuntu site for starters
[04:01] <LinuxMercedes> I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu.  It gets 93% into the install and then stops "Configuring Hardware".  Can anyone help?
[04:01] <badkitty> Hey jw144000
[04:01] <shear> loa: i'm going to try a reboot, but i'm not gonna upgrade to the devel version. I've found that for the past few releases, ubuntu has broken far more tha it fixed
[04:01] <monte> dr willes do u have aim
[04:01] <monte> willis*
[04:01] <jw144000> I just installed Gutsy Gibbon on my external hard drive, and even when I change my BIOS settings to have it boot the external hard drive through USB, it won't boot. How can I get it to work?
[04:01] <shear> loa: each release breaks more than it fixes
[04:02] <Dr_willis> monte,  nope.. and ive told ya what you need to do. :) enable the medibuntu repo. install the w32codec pack
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> monte: Checkout the restricted format page for most of what you might need
[04:02] <Dr_willis> !w32codecs | monte
[04:02] <ubotu> monte: The Win32 codecs are available from the Medibuntu repositories (see « /msg ubotu medibuntu »), and for releases prior to Gutsy, also at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:02] <echo-y-y> anyone have any recommendations for a browser that uses very little resources?
[04:02] <saphire> OKay so Im a noob at JP, and Im also a noob at Unix/Linux/Ubuntu.... Where do i go to start learning all about Ubuntu?
[04:03] <monte> so were do i go to download w32codecs at in add and remove
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> !training
[04:03] <ubotu> A desktop course manual for Ubuntu 7.10 can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training
[04:03] <kosak> dillo, but sucks
[04:03] <Starnestommy> monte: use system > administration > synaptic
[04:03] <geekworx__> Starnestommy: okay dude i restart my computer and what now ?
[04:03] <kosak> try epiphany or swiftwisel
[04:03] <Dr_willis> !medibuntu | monte
[04:03] <ubotu> monte: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[04:03] <Starnestommy> geekworx__: is it working?
[04:03] <geekworx__> Starnestommy: no
[04:03] <cylex> Flashq009: if you can't find it.. then you can put this  index.jpg   under DirectoryIndex
[04:03] <kosak> check those browsers (or opera)
[04:04] <cylex> Flashq009: where index.html is located
[04:04] <kingzz> :S
[04:04] <kingzz> damn
[04:04] <thinman1189> cylex brb gotta find the charger for this
[04:04] <cylex> thinman1189: heh ok
[04:04] <monte> Starnestommy: do u have aim
[04:04] <Starnestommy> monte: I answered you
[04:05] <kingzz> Starnestommy: i can open folders now but look kingz@kingz-secure:~$ w
[04:05] <kingzz>  ( i wants to change that kingz-secure )
[04:05] <monte> k
[04:05] <kingzz> Starnestommy: i can open folders now but look kingz@kingz-secure:~$ w
[04:05] <echosystm`> can anyone tell me, how do you mount a usb drive from commandline?
[04:05] <cylex> Flashq009: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/mod/mod_mime.html
[04:05] <LinuxMercedes> I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu.  It gets 93% into the install and then stops "Configuring Hardware".  Can anyone help?
[04:05] <Flashq009> cylex>> index.htm is located in /var/www
[04:05] <badkitty> echosystm`: type man mount it will tell you how
[04:06] <kingzz> Starnestommy: please help me tommy, i wants to change that @kingz-secure
[04:06] <cylex> Flashq009: may be image location in the html files isn't unix compatible
[04:06] <drpcken> for anything that uses pidgin, is there anyway to make the minimized message flash  at the bottom, instead of the tray icon changing?  OR can you suggest a better multiprotocol IM program?
[04:06] <cylex> Flashq009: does this work http://server/image.jpg
[04:06] <shear> rediculous...looks like it's time to try another distro.
[04:07] <Blue_Sassley> Hi guys I'm trying to setup VNC over SSH and I have it going but when I try and connect to the VNC server I get the error "unable to connect to display """
[04:07] <LinuxMercedes> I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu.  It gets 93% into the install and then stops "Configuring Hardware".  Can anyone help? Using Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Desktop edition.
[04:07] <kingzz> look people
[04:07] <kingzz> ~# cat /etc/hostname
[04:07] <kingzz> kingz-secure
[04:07] <Flashq009> Cylex>> that works
[04:07] <kingzz> how to change my hostname?
[04:08] <Starnestommy> kingzz: edit that file?
[04:08] <RJ_Squirrel> shear: do you want to know how to fix flash
[04:08] <astro76> !hostname | kingzz
[04:08] <ubotu> kingzz: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[04:08] <craigbass1976> Hey folks... Rather than fart around wiht a gutsy disc.. can anyone tell me what usually will give a "diskette drive 0 seek failure" ?  I've disabeld the floppy, checked RAM...
[04:08] <shear> RJ_Squirrel: if you know how, then yeah
[04:08] <cylex> Flashq009: images are casesensitive.. and also try http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_mime.html
[04:08] <mynyml> what package can i find glib-gettext in?
[04:08] <Jordan_U> when I try to use perl style regular expressions with grep (  grep --perl-regexp ) I get the error : "grep: The -P option is not supported" but it's in the man page as an option, is there something that I need to do to add support for this?
[04:08] <RJ_Squirrel> !flashissues
[04:08] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation has been broken for some time. A fix has been released now, although it might not have yet reached all mirrors. If the update fails to install Flash, try « sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree ; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree »
[04:08] <sanesto> hello
[04:08] <craigbass1976> HD can be read from another linux livecd (DSL)
[04:08] <RJ_Squirrel> shear: That is the short answer
[04:08] <sanesto> anyone has experience with grub
[04:08] <sanesto> i need a little help
[04:08] <shear> RJ_Squirrel: did the reinstall, but why not, i'll give it another go
[04:08] <Flashq009> cylex>>> i am used MS Frontpage template to create the webpage.
[04:08] <cylex> sanesto: I can help you get rid of it .. lol that's all I know
[04:09] <sanesto> loooooooool
[04:09] <craigbass1976> sanesto, I've some.  WHat's the isue
[04:09] <craigbass1976> issue
[04:09] <RJ_Squirrel> shear: REMOVE the other fully firat
[04:09] <RochJer> Hiya - I need some assistance on getting the necessary file permission to save file - I'm already an administrator
[04:09] <RJ_Squirrel> first
[04:09] <cylex> Flashq009: then you need to install frontpage extensions for apache.. google it
[04:09] <kingzz> people help me what to write in Terminal to change my hostname please!?
[04:09] <RochJer> Trying to edit sources.list
[04:09] <pocketwatch> Blue_Sassley, are you connecting from linux to linux?
[04:09] <craigbass1976> RochJer, sudo vi filename
[04:09] <Starnestommy> kingzz: read the message ubotu sent.
[04:09] <sanesto> cylex
[04:09] <kingzz> Starnestommy: i know only to work in terminal;S
[04:09] <sanesto> can you go in pm
[04:09] <sanesto> ?
[04:09] <Blue_Sassley> pocketwatch, I've tried both ways linux to linux and winblows to linux
[04:10] <kingzz> and i make that
[04:10] <craigbass1976> RochJer, or, if you don't like vi, sudo chown yourname:yourname filename
[04:10] <cabroni_> where I find a free alternative to create presentations?
[04:10] <kingzz> and the hostname its still kingz@kingz-secure
[04:10] <kingzz> :S
[04:10] <kingzz> how to change that ?
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> shear: may I pm
[04:10] <sanesto> cylex
[04:10] <Starnestommy> kingzz: edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts
[04:10] <sanesto> u there
[04:10] <craigbass1976> RochJer, then edit with whatever, and then chown back to whoever owned it in the first place
[04:10] <cylex> sanesto: yes
[04:10] <Flashq009> cylex>>>I did, google it, unfortunately, not able to get extension.  Do you know where I can get it?
[04:10] <pocketwatch> Blue_Sassley, you started a vncserver session on :1 or :2, right?
[04:10] <tockitj> Q: is there ubuntu package for 'http://home.eunet.no/pnordahl/ntpasswd/' i could really use it right now (im recovering lost win partition :-/)
[04:10] <sanesto> i'm in pm wi th u
[04:10] <sanesto> but your not responding
[04:10] <craigbass1976> cabroni_, ooimpress?
[04:10] <cylex> changing hostname:  go under debian:  --> http://www.ducea.com/2006/08/07/how-to-change-the-hostname-of-a-linux-system/
[04:10] <Blue_Sassley> pocketwatch, correct vncserver:1
[04:11] <cabroni_> openoffice?
[04:11] <cylex> Flashq009: I can search for u.. brb
[04:11] <RochJer> I was trying to get java working better - thats why I had to edit source list
[04:11] <RochJer> pogo.com lags up the java performance
[04:11] <craigbass1976> cabroni_, yep, there's a powerpoint type of program in there called impress
[04:11] <Flashq009> cylex>>>thank you cylex
[04:11] <pocketwatch> Blue_Sassley, and the client is set up for tunneling and you're connecting vnc to localhost:5900?
[04:11] <Blue_Sassley> pocketwatch, in the ubuntu doc they said to use 5901
[04:11] <shear> Jack_Sparrow: sure
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> RochJer: Changing sources isnt going to help with java
[04:12] <pocketwatch> Blue_Sassley, or that
[04:12] <macogw> cabroni_: it can open/save powerpoint files too
[04:12] <RochJer> Okay.
[04:12] <sanesto> i have my internal hard disk and an external one
[04:12] <sanesto> i had windows xp on the internal one and installed fedora core
[04:12] <sanesto> then i plugged my external and installed on it ubuntu
[04:12] <sanesto> now if i boot the grub from the external everything works
[04:12] <sanesto> but if i boot grub on the  internal one i get grub error 21
[04:12] <FloodBot3> sanesto: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:12] <RochJer> What is the best solution to fix the pogo.com with java ?
[04:12] <Blue_Sassley> pocketwatch, so yeah I am tunneling via 5901
[04:12] <pocketwatch> Blue_Sassley, in system > preferences > remote desktop, enable "allow ... to connect"
[04:12] <drpcken> for anything that uses pidgin, is there anyway to make the minimized message flash  at the bottom when a new message arrives?, instead of the tray icon changing?  OR can you suggest a better multiprotocol IM program?
[04:13] <badkitty> BRB
[04:13] <sanesto> i have my internal hard disk and an external one i had windows xp on the internal one and installed fedora core then i plugged my external and installed on it ubuntu now if i boot the grub from the external everything works but if i boot grub on the  internal one i get grub error 21
[04:13] <Blue_Sassley> pocketwatch, ok, let me check now
[04:13] <pocketwatch> Blue_Sassley, i had some trouble recently with that myself, but once i enabled that it worked.
[04:13] <sanesto> how can i fix it ?
[04:13] <craigbass1976> sanesto, And someone correct me if I'm wrong, couldn't you copy menu.lst over to the internal HD and just change a bit of stuff to makeit work from there?
[04:13] <RochJer> What is the best solution to fix the pogo.com with java ? (just wanted an opinion)
[04:14] <sanesto> yea i can do that but i don't know what to change
[04:14] <cabroni_> ok, Im opening it now, but it take low my laptop, Are exist a "lite" version of Impress?
[04:14] <fr500> sanesto: the grub that works...does it show the 3 OSs?
[04:14] <danbhfive> sanesto: I think you have to edit menu.lst
[04:14] <sanesto> yea
[04:14] <sanesto> it shows them all
[04:14] <sanesto> xp fedora and ubuntu
[04:14] <cylex> sanesto: you want to get rid of grub?
[04:14] <cylex> Flashq009: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=170333
[04:14] <sanesto> i just want a way to boot the 3 os whether i have my external plugged in or not
[04:14] <cylex> Flashq009: I hope this works
[04:14] <sanesto> which contains ubuntu installation
[04:14] <craigbass1976> I say copy menu.lst... the drive references will all be wrong I think, though the kernels will be right
[04:14] <Flashq009> Cylex>> thank you.
[04:15] <thinman1189> cylex i'm not sure if it matters but i had to use ndiswrapper to get it to work in the first place
[04:15] <Blue_Sassley> pocketwatch, ok I just tested it and still got the error... am I suppose to run the vncviewer command in the SSH session?
[04:15] <sanesto> i copied menu.lst and still got error 21
[04:15] <pocketwatch> Blue_Sassley, can you connect from the host machine to itself (as a test)
[04:15] <sanesto> ...
[04:15] <cylex> sanesto: it's not possible unless you run Virtual Machine software
[04:15] <sanesto> hmmm
[04:15] <craigbass1976> sanesto, my last comment makes me sound like a jerk.. not sure how else to put it. anyway.... did you change the drive references?
[04:16] <sanesto> there's no way to have ubuntu on the external and fedora + xp on the internal ?
[04:16] <sanesto> no, i'm not good with drive references
[04:16] <cylex> sanesto: not that I know of
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> sanesto: Did you install to the external last?
[04:16] <sanesto> yea
[04:16] <sanesto> i did
[04:16] <Blue_Sassley> pocketwatch, yes I have tested with just vncviewer
[04:16] <sanesto> last thing i did was ubuntu on external
[04:16] <craigbass1976> (hd0,0)  those parts
[04:16] <cylex> thinman1189: got it working?
[04:16] <goodmami> Can I change the Input Method of a program from the command line?
[04:17] <craigbass1976> Hey folks... Rather than fart around wiht a gutsy disc.. can anyone tell me what usually will give a "diskette drive 0 seek failure" ?  I've disabled the floppy, checked RAM...
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> sanesto: If you installed grub to the onboard mbr and not the bootable usb drive the onboard drive will only look for grub on the external
[04:17] <goodmami> (eg, in some text areas you can right-click, select Input Method, and choose one... Other types of text areas do not allow this)
[04:17] <Blue_Sassley> pocketwatch, and the command I'm running is: vncviewer -via <IP address> <computer-name>:<display number>
[04:17] <thinman1189> cylex : no
[04:17] <sanesto> so if i reinstall grub on fedora
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> sanesto: Copy the menu list all you want, without the external it will not work
[04:18] <sanesto> i mean
[04:18] <cylex> thinman1189: try backing up everything and reinstalling the distro
[04:18] <goodmami> (the problem is that in some applications the keyboard goes dead, and I have to select an input method (such as SCIM or default))
[04:18] <pocketwatch> Blue_Sassley, one sec, checking something
[04:18] <sanesto> if i reinstall fedora on internal
[04:18] <Blue_Sassley> pocketwatch, ok thanks
[04:18] <sanesto> i should be able to boot os on internal
[04:18] <sanesto> ?
[04:18] <Jack_Sparrow> sanesto: You would reinstall grub to the mbr of the onboard pointing to fedora.
[04:19] <sanesto> how do i reinstall grub ?
[04:19] <thinman1189> cylex won't work. i had a lot of trouble and used ndiswrapper to get this to work in the first place. it's not an out of the box card.
[04:19] <Jack_Sparrow> sanesto: Grub in fedora can point to the external drive
[04:19] <cylex> thinman1189: ah
[04:19] <sanesto> aha
[04:19] <sanesto> so to reinstall grub
[04:19] <sanesto> of fedora
[04:19] <sanesto> what i do
[04:20] <pocketwatch> Blue_Sassley, i'm not going to be much help with the linux to linux connection since i used putty on a windows box at work to connect at home :(
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> I am in the middle of another project, so I cant give you the time for that.. SInce it is fedora and reinstalling grub they might be able to help as well
[04:20] <Blue_Sassley> pocketdrummer, thats fine
[04:20] <acee1234> anything involving video playback is flickering badly on my ubuntu restricted driver are installed direct rendering returns yes any ideas?
[04:20] <sanesto> so i reinstal fedora?
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> sanesto: Also please dont PM people without asking
[04:20] <acee1234> using ati x1400 gpu
[04:20] <Blue_Sassley> pocketwatch, thats fine can you help me with what you did for your windows to linux connection
[04:21] <cylex> sanesto:   http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Multiboot-with-GRUB-2.html
[04:21] <Blue_Sassley> pocketwatch, because that is really what I want anyway I just didn't know how much help I was going to get :)
[04:21] <pocketwatch> Blue_Sassley, i pretty much followed the howto @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH
[04:21] <Blue_Sassley> pocketwatch, so have I :(
[04:21] <goodmami> in other words, can i do something like im-switch, but have it affect a particular application?
[04:21] <Blue_Sassley> pocketwatch, are you using putty?
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> acee1234: In the xorg     Option "Composite" "disable"                     #Added from Wiki.. If you do not set it to Disable: you can get jerky video display
[04:21] <pocketwatch> Blue_Sassley, not atm, i dont have access to a windows machine at home
[04:21] <_Oz_> so
[04:22] <_Oz_> virtualbox doesn't work with compiz
[04:22] <_Oz_> that's uncool.
[04:22] <badkitty> _Oz_: Yes it does.. rather well in my case
[04:22] <_Oz_> badkitty: oh?
[04:22] <cylex> sanesto: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/     (betterversion)
[04:22] <craigbass1976> Oh, Hey... Now instead of the diskette error, I just get the word GRUB at the top of the screen
[04:22] <_Oz_> I just read http://blog.gobanquet.com/index.php/virtualbox-15-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/
[04:22] <Dr_willis> runnung any sort of 3d/compiz/games under virtualbox will be... lacking. :)
[04:22] <_Oz_> it says you have to disable compiz.  you were able to get around it?
[04:22] <cylex> What is compiz?
[04:22] <Blue_Sassley> pocketwatch, well when you are at work what is the command you use to start the VNC session?
[04:22] <Dr_willis> or you mean running virtualbox on a machine that has compiz  also setup?
[04:22] <badkitty> _Oz_: Well how come I keep my vbox on my left desktop and scroll over to it when I need it?
[04:23] <Dr_willis> !compiz | cylex
[04:23] <craigbass1976> I just watched the good the bad and the ugly tonight...
[04:23] <ubotu> cylex: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> _Oz_: VB is a virtual install of XP or whatever.. How could it have effects..inside?
[04:23] <_Oz_> all I really want virtualbox to do is run office 2007 and photoshop cs3.  If it can do that, I'm sold.
[04:23] <acee1234> Jack_Sparrow: im a bit new where is that file and what do i look for under wiki
[04:23] <cylex> Dr_willis: thx
[04:23] <Dr_willis> _Oz_,  it should be able to do that. or use vmware, or you might want to check out crossover-office.
[04:23] <pocketwatch> Blue_Sassley, i used tightvncviewer (standalone) and the ip was localhost::5900 or 5901 i forgot since itried them both
[04:23] <badkitty> _Oz_: You can run it hold on.. I just installed it.. let me try again just to be sure
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> acee1234: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:23] <thinman1189> cylex : that's weird. the dns servers i have in my ubuntu config is different than what ipconfig /all tells me on my dad's laptop. is it possible they changed?
[04:23] <Blue_Sassley> pocketwatch, oh ok
[04:23] <_Oz_> jacksparrow: it doesn't.  but compiz doesn't play well with it.  as you close windows, etc. the screen is garbled.
[04:23] <badkitty> _Oz_: Yeo..
[04:24] <_Oz_> at least, that's what I've been told.
[04:24] <Blue_Sassley> pocketwatch, does that still use the SSH or are you just direct connecting?
[04:24] <_Oz_> what's the current vers. of virtualbox?
[04:24] <_Oz_> maybe this article is a little out of date.
[04:24] <cylex> thinman1189: this is what you put down for dns servers: nothing..
[04:24] <pocketwatch> Blue_Sassley, it's using ssh, you set up the connection with putty first
[04:24] <Blue_Sassley> pocketwatch, ok I think I got it then
[04:24] <acee1234> Jack_Sparrow:  and the wiki
[04:24] <cylex> thinman1189: if u want to try.. try the default gateway as first dns server, and 127.0.0.1 as second one
[04:24] <pocketwatch> Blue_Sassley, alright, best of luck
[04:24] <Dr_willis> _Oz_,  you could check the virtualbox web site and see what the latest debs they got are.
[04:25] <Zombino> is anybody here familiar with OOo Basic?
[04:25] <tockitj> Q: what program can i use to burn cds from command line (live cd) ?
[04:25] <goodmami> no ideas?
[04:25] <badkitty> Dr_willis: I've used it for a few months with no issues.. Thats  Compiz + Twinview + Virtualbox
[04:25] <Starnestommy> tockitj: dd?
[04:25] <iKap> what is the command to install all needed codecs for MPLAYER?
[04:25] <sanesto> hey
[04:25] <_Oz_> I use twinview too, badkitty
[04:25] <pocketdrummer> Zombino: Like the one that comes with Ubuntu? Or is it something else?
[04:25] <sanesto> there's a problem i got
[04:25] <sanesto> when i boot ubuntu
[04:25] <cylex> tockitj: dd I think
[04:25] <sanesto> i get this screen :
[04:25] <sanesto> http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/7717/dsc00090wa4.jpg
[04:25] <thinman1189> cylex why no dns? i had to have it before to work
[04:26] <tockitj> Starnestommy: dd can be used to burn cds ??
[04:26] <acee1234> Jack_Sparrow: Section "Extensions"  Option		"Composite"	"Enable "-> "disable"?
[04:26] <sanesto> to fix this problem
[04:26] <sanesto> each time i boot windows then boot ubuntu again
[04:26] <Starnestommy> tockitj: yes
[04:26] <sanesto> and it works
[04:26] <cylex> thinman119: try it both ways
[04:26] <Zombino> pocketdrummer, it's the scripting language for open office.  I unistalled the ubuntu version and installed the regular version of OOo
[04:26] <_Oz_> badkitty: did you install a hacked or clean  copy of win xp for virtualbox?
[04:26] <sanesto> but next time i reget the screen :
[04:26] <sanesto> http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/7717/dsc00090wa4.jpg
[04:26] <RJ_Squirrel> acee1234: yes
[04:26] <badkitty> _Oz_: A clean SP1 disc I bought a few years ago
[04:26] <pocketdrummer> Sanesto: I don't mean to harp on your man, but can you use periods instead of the enter key? It helps keep the clutter down.
[04:26] <sanesto> yea sorry
[04:26] <Blue_Sassley> pocketwatch, thanks
[04:27] <badkitty> _Oz_: But I also rub other things like back track or other OS's for testing and playing around with
[04:27] <acee1234> RJ_Squirrel: the restart x?
[04:27] <acee1234> RJ_Squirrel: then
[04:27] <monte> does anyone know what i need to watch internet vids off the page ?
[04:27] <RJ_Squirrel> acee1234: yes
[04:27] <_Oz_> back track?
[04:27] <acee1234> RJ_Squirrel: than you
[04:27] <badkitty> _Oz_: I did try to install ubuntu server: Now that does not work in vbox afaik
[04:27] <Jack_Sparrow> acee1234: np
[04:27] <pocketdrummer> Zombino: I've used the windows version you download from the website. I'm not sure if it's the same though.
[04:27] <acee1234> thank you too jack
[04:27] <sanesto> anyone knows how to solve my problem ? :P :D
[04:27] <badkitty> _Oz_: Backtrack is a pen testing OS based off of another linux distro
[04:27] <goodmami> nobody has problems with x-input method?  i can't input anything in x-based GUIs (and can't change the input method).  any help appreciated
[04:27] <cylex> monte: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree    (its free)
[04:28] <Zombino> pocketdrummer, it's cool.  I've got a coding question, and now that I think about it it has nothing to do with Ubuntu so I'm in the wrong place to ask this anyway :P
[04:28] <Starnestommy> Zombino: #openoffice.org may be a more appropriate place for it
[04:28] <_Oz_> I see
[04:28] <_Oz_> thanks for the tip, badkitty...  so you think I should just be able to do the standard virtualbox install and I'll be good to go?
[04:28] <Zombino> Thank you Starnestommy, didn't know there was such a channel!
[04:28] <sanesto> i got a problem with my ubuntu...i dual boot btw. when i boot my ubuntu i get this screen : http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/7717/dsc00090wa4.jpg to fix it i must boot windows then boot ubuntu again and it would work
[04:28] <_Oz_> did you follow a specific online tutorial?
[04:29] <pocketdrummer> sanesto: What version of Ubuntu are you using and what kind of graphic card do you have?
[04:29] <jijutm> hi all i managed to screw my gdm configuration.. and now it starts a single server and tells me to correct the error.
[04:29] <sanesto> 7.10
[04:29] <jijutm> using 7.10
[04:29] <sanesto> geforce 7500 LE
[04:29] <jokie51> hai2u all
[04:29] <thinman1189> cylex not working
[04:29] <badkitty> _Oz_: Yes I do
[04:29] <pocketdrummer> I have an nVidia card too, and it freaks out unless I set it to vesa then install the restricted drivers.
[04:29] <sanesto> ...
[04:30] <jijutm> hi..
[04:30] <jijutm> i would appreciate if some one could shed the light..
[04:30] <sanesto> ...
[04:30] <cptnapalm> on?
[04:30] <jijutm> i am lost
[04:30] <sanesto> so u think the problem is the vga driver ?
[04:30] <_Oz_> I'm going to give it a shot, badkitty.
[04:30] <cylex> thinman1189: what ip you get when you type ifconfig -a
[04:31] <iKap> what codecs do i need to install for MPLAYER to play mpgs, divx, wmvs, etc.. just all basic formats?!
[04:31] <jijutm> on getting my gdm screen back to norma.
[04:31] <pocketdrummer> sanesto: When you boot into Ubuntu, press Ctrl+Alt+F1. From there, type sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:31] <sanesto> but the prob is that i can't see anything on the screen to type...
[04:31] <cptnapalm> jijutm, what is your gdm screen doing?
[04:31] <cylex> thinman1189: when I had internet connection problem, every time I set the static ip, I had to reboot, in order for it to work, ubuntu networking is kinda messed up
[04:31] <_Oz_> Although, it's got me thinking: I realize this is old hat to all of you linuxheads who long ago swore off windows, but as a guy who's recently jumped off the ship, I am going through new thought processes.  what I'm wondering is: if I can't get away from the windows apps which chain me to M$, what's the point of ubuntu (other than having fun)?
[04:31] <thinman1189> cylex that gives me a lot of output which adress?
[04:32] <badkitty> iKap: go to medibuntu.org install the packages it has there (mostly libdvdcss2 and w32codecs and the ffmpeg one
[04:32] <jijutm> it shows me a warning only.. with no xservers are configured.. this may be a config error
[04:32] <jijutm> i should login and fix it
[04:32] <thinman1189> cylex i've rebooted multiple times and no dice
[04:32] <pocketdrummer> sanesto: I can't either until I press ctrl+alt+F1. It takes you to the terminal. You have to make sure it is a capital X or it won't work. The terminal is case-sensitive.
[04:32] <drpcken> ok right now i'm using Pidgin for a multi-protocol IM, only problem is when i have a chat window minimized, it doesn't flash when i receive a new message.  i didn't see a setting for this.  is there a way? or can you suggest a BETTER multiprotocol IM?
[04:32] <iKap> badkitty, i rememebr there being a command to do this thorugh the terminal that installed all needed codecs.. etc.
[04:32] <badkitty> iKap: You can also do a sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:32] <cptnapalm> jijutm, so just a console?  No X at all?
[04:32] <jijutm> ys
[04:32] <iKap> badkitty, thats all?
[04:32] <cptnapalm> ah ok.  X is borked then.
[04:33] <cptnapalm> Which is never fun.
[04:33] <supershort> hi
[04:33] <iKap> my X is broken as well, so im about to go restore.
[04:33] <jijutm> i dont get you
[04:33] <cptnapalm> What kind of graphics card do you get?
[04:33] <supershort> how to i extract and install this realvnc program
[04:33] <pocketdrummer> Well, I guess he'll be back, he quit before I explained the rest.....
[04:33] <cptnapalm> ack, have
[04:33] <goodmami> yeah ok thanks anyway
[04:33] <jijutm> i did apt-get install xdm
[04:33] <monte> cylex what are u talking about sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree were do i go to install it at?
[04:33] <jijutm> today..
[04:33] <badkitty> iKap: That with the medibuntu codecs and your multimedia will be basically complete
[04:33] <jijutm> and chose that as the default..
[04:34] <jijutm> I can login now..
[04:34] <cptnapalm> Don't think xdm would screw up X itself...
[04:34] <pocketdrummer> How many people here have an nVidia card and cannot use the default nv drivers that come with Ubuntu?
[04:34] <jijutm> but the familiar themed ubuntu login is no more available
[04:34] <cptnapalm> login on the console?
[04:34] <jijutm> ys
[04:34] <Blue_Sassley> What is a program I can use to download stuff on to a iPod... one that has the Apple OS on it still
[04:34] <jokie51> um, you can always use the nv driver for 2d things
[04:34] <cptnapalm> ah, so xdm is not even starting?
[04:34] <Blue_Sassley> !ipod > Blue_Sassley
[04:34] <jokie51> i even had the nv driver running an 8800GTX
[04:34] <Starnestommy> jijutm: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[04:34] <jokie51> yea it was slow
[04:35] <jokie51> but until i figured out how to use the restricted devices manager, its all i had
[04:35] <_Oz_> can anyone recommend a recent virtualbox tutorial for me?
[04:35] <_Oz_> or should I just follow the instructions from virtualbox?
[04:35] <Blue_Sassley> Sorry guys ubutu has the answer
[04:35] <bruenig> "figured out"
[04:35] <acee1234> jack_sparrow: that killed my gnome display manager
[04:35] <cptnapalm> jijutm, do try what Starnestommy mentioned
[04:35] <jijutm> ok will try that..
[04:35] <cylex> monte: you want to install the flash player right?
[04:35] <Jack_Sparrow> acee1234: It should not have..  IT is from the ati page...
[04:35] <monte> yes
[04:35] <badkitty> _Oz_: Do you need one? It's not too complicated.. the hardest part is figuring out what additional package needs to be installed after it gives you an error the first time you try to run it
[04:36] <jijutm> thanks guys.. will check that and be back soon..
[04:36] <cylex> monte: so that's one way or better way is this link I'll give you
[04:36] <cptnapalm> jijutm, best of luck
[04:36] <Jack_Sparrow> acee1234: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[04:36] <_Oz_> I'm the kind of guy that generally needs one, yes
[04:36] <acee1234> Jack_Sparrow: but the video is fixed
[04:36] <jijutm> thanks
[04:36] <thinman1189> cylex : not working
[04:36] <acee1234> ill see if i can start display manager
[04:36] <acee1234> Jack_Sparrow: have to find it...
[04:36] <supershort> how to i extract shit in console
[04:36] <_Oz_> One other question: is virtualbox definitively "better" than vmware?
[04:36] <cptnapalm> Anybody have a widescreen monitor and get the console NOT running off the screen?
[04:36] <_Oz_> as in faster, more stable, etc.
[04:37] <pocketdrummer> supershort: what are you extracting?
[04:37] <acee1234> "Unable to start the settings manager 'gnome-settings-daemon'. Without the GNOME settings manager running, some....."
[04:37] <supershort> realvnc
[04:37] <badkitty> _Oz_: LOL, well ... It's a matter of opinion, but I found virtualbox much easier to get working with linux
[04:37] <cylex> thinman1189: dunno.. keep trying that tutorial.. or something
[04:37] <Jack_Sparrow> acee1234: Glad you got video working... gotta go..
[04:37] <thinman1189> cylex where in the forums should i try posting?
[04:37] <cylex> monte: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&P2_Platform=Linux
[04:37] <monte> cylex: wats the link
[04:37] <jokie51> virtualbox doesnt support AMD-V or Intel VT extensions for virtualization
[04:37] <monte> thanks
[04:37] <jokie51> Vmware does.
[04:37] <jokie51> That's why I choose VMware over anything else.
[04:37] <cylex> monte: download the tar.gz  Its a binary .. easy install
[04:37] <_Oz_> Thanks, badkitty.
[04:38] <pocketdrummer> cptnapalm: Mine doesn't run off. That's just default too. You may have to change settings (I dont' know which).
[04:38] <supershort> well?
[04:38] <thinman1189> cylex ugh i just restarted and it did a forced check, 37 times without apparently.
[04:38] <acee1234> thank you jack
[04:38] <_Oz_> jokie: I have an AMD 64 chip, does that matter?
[04:38] <supershort> how to i extract
[04:38] <Starnestommy> supershort: tar -xzf filename.tar.gz
[04:38] <Starnestommy> wait, whoops
[04:38] <jokie51> oxez: X2 or better?
[04:38] <jokie51> err
[04:38] <monte> then i extract or wat do i do
[04:38] <jokie51> _Oz_:
[04:38] <cylex> supershort: tar -zxpvf filename.tar.gz
[04:38] <badkitty> _Oz_: PM me if you want help with it.. I actually have to finish installing the other package and set it up for first OS.. I'll go over it with you if you want
[04:38]  * Starnestommy needs glasses, I think
[04:39] <cylex> monte: then just run the binary
[04:39] <cptnapalm> pocketdrummer: Mine unfortunately does run off.. and the fonts are big and ugly.  I've tried some suggested work arounds, but nothing has helped yet... Which sucks as sometimes I really just want an ocean of text
[04:39] <cylex> monte: do it from the terminal please
[04:39] <bruenig> cylex, p is more for creating archives isn't it?
[04:39] <jokie51> X2 (65nm variants) and Phenoms have AMD Secure Virtual.
[04:39] <_Oz_> thanks, badkitty
[04:39] <acee1234> anyone have any ideas why changing th xorg file composite entry from enabled to disable will kill gnome display manager and compiz?
[04:39] <cylex> bruenig: no
[04:39] <Onyx> How can I install some new fonts?  I've got the ability to use ttfs, but I've forgotten the process for installing new fonts/refreshing the system's font cache.
[04:39] <monte> how do i do that
[04:39] <cylex> bruenig: to create it.. tar -cvf filename.tar.gz
[04:39] <cptnapalm> Compiz would need the composite entry wouldn't it?
[04:39] <monte> i am new at this
[04:39] <pocketdrummer> cptnapalm: What's your monitor's native resolution? Mine is 1680x1050.
[04:40] <bruenig> cylex, no but I mean p means to preserve the permission whilst creating an archive I thought
[04:40] <cptnapalm> pocketdrummer: mine's the same :(
[04:40] <cylex> bruenig: I think its without permission but not sure
[04:40] <pocketdrummer> cptnapalm: That can't be it then... what about your video card?
[04:40] <cylex> monte: read the documentation on www.ubuntu.com
[04:41] <cptnapalm> pocketdrummer: It's an nVidia 8500 GT.  Works wonderfully in X without any problems.
[04:41] <Ashnal> so ive found something that annoys me, which is that if im playing music of some sort, and my computer comes under a heavy processing load, the music will skip, is there a way to prevent this?
[04:41] <bruenig> Ashnal, no
[04:41] <monte> okay so i go to the website and do wat
[04:42] <jokie51> Ashnal: yes. upgrade your CPU to a dual core/quad core. something capable of multithreading.
[04:42] <cptnapalm> Ashnal: only if you up the nice level of the other stuff you are doing, I think.
[04:42] <cylex> monte: read the Documentation
[04:42] <Dr_willis> Hmm. I never have those issues. with my Audigy2zs card.
[04:42] <jokie51> dual core CPU's are dirt cheap.
[04:42] <cylex> monte: cant teach you everything over the irc
[04:42] <jokie51> Theres no reason not to have at least 2 cores.
[04:42] <Jack_Sparrow> acee1234: Run fglrxinfo and make sure it says ati and NOT mesa....
[04:42] <cptnapalm> Just got a Quad Core PC (Acer) for $550 a few weeks ago.
[04:42] <Ashnal> except an older computer with a motherboard that doesnt support a dual core
[04:42] <monte> o then the internet link
[04:42] <jokie51> Ashnal: Don't even. :P
[04:43] <supershort> it wont work
[04:43] <jokie51> AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+: $65, MSI K9N AM2+ Board: $89, 1GB (2x512) DDR2-667: $38
[04:43] <pocketdrummer> cptnapalm: You may want to try the forums. I honestly don't have enough experience with linux to be able to accurately identify the issue.
[04:43] <Ashnal> so theres no way to give sound output priority over other things always?
[04:43] <jokie51> like I said, cheap.
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> acee1234: Run fglrxinfo and make sure it says ati and NOT mesa.... sorry if this is a repeat..
[04:44] <supershort> ben@ben-laptop:~$ tar -zxpvf vnc-4_1_2-x86_linux.tar.gz
[04:44] <supershort> tar: vnc-4_1_2-x86_linux.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[04:44] <cptnapalm> Ashnal: actually try running the music player from the command line preceeded by nice 0 or so.   "man nice" for how to use nice
[04:44] <pocketdrummer> cptnapalm: Maybe the problem lies in xorg.conf? Does anyone else have any knowledge of this?
[04:44] <danbhfive> Ashnal: how about nice values?
[04:45] <jw144000> poningru: Can I PM you?
[04:45] <monte> ok thanks
[04:46] <bob__> hey pocketdrummer
[04:46] <monte> i have got it so that should let me watch vids and everything right with just that download correct?
[04:46] <russ> Hello, can someone explain (or make an educated guess) why after installing KDE on my ubuntu (gutsy) system, the "places" menu in gnome doesn't work any more (fails to open a window)?
[04:46] <cptnapalm> pocketdrummer: I think it has to do with how the console is set up from the get go.  I remember way back when I compiled my own kernels I always included the framebuffer driver in the kernel.  The default kernels now only build them as a module and don't know when that module loads.
[04:46] <pocketdrummer> bob_ hi :D
[04:46] <jokie51> russ: much easier to just start from Kubuntu
[04:46] <bob__> u need help with nvidia?
[04:46] <jokie51> installing KDE on vanilla ubuntu tends to break a LOT of things.
[04:46] <bob__> pocket send me PM if u need help with nvidia
[04:46] <badkitty> Anyone remember what command to use when accessing mysql for the first time?
[04:46] <acee1234> when i disabled composite in the xorg file to get rid of video flickering it killed my compiz any ideas?
[04:47] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. I install kubuntu-desktop on my Ubuntu machines all the time. No hassles.
[04:47] <russ> jokie51 great, wish I knew that before doing it
[04:47] <Starnestommy> acee1234: compiz needs compisiting
[04:47] <Starnestommy> *compositing
[04:47] <cptnapalm> acee1234: wouldn't compiz require compositing?
[04:47] <Onyx> How can I install some new fonts?  I've got the ability to use ttfs, but I've forgotten the process for installing new fonts/refreshing the system's font cache.
[04:47] <jokie51> badkitty: mysqladmin -u root password 'new password here'
[04:47] <acee1234> cptnapalm:  then is there a diferent way to get rid of my video/screen flickering?
[04:48] <russ> jokie51 great, any suggestions for how to make it work again? Are the kde and gnome desktops incompatible?
[04:48] <badkitty> jokie51: ahh admin....
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> acee1234: What did fglrxinfo say
[04:48] <acee1234> someone said something about apic noapic
[04:48] <cptnapalm> acee1234: Not sure... using nVidia?
[04:48] <bob__> put them in the /etc/fonts dir
[04:48] <jokie51> russ: yes. :) remove KDE.
[04:48] <cptnapalm> /etc/fonts is for font config stuff...
[04:49] <acee1234> Jack_Sparrow: OpenGL renderer string: ATI Mobility Radeon X1400
[04:49] <_Oz_> acee: that's CAPTAIN Jack Sparrow.
[04:49] <jokie51> It's a total PITA getting KDE to operate properly with Gnome on the same machine, unless you want to toil and burn for 1500 hours reinstalling applications by the dozen with support for both.
[04:49] <Jack_Sparrow> acee1234: good.. you should read that page I linked..it will get you going
[04:49] <acee1234> ARGGG...
[04:49] <russ> jokie51 really?
[04:49] <acee1234> might you resend that link Captain?
[04:49] <cptnapalm> acee1234: I seem to remember something about vblank having something to do with that... which sounded just like vsync
[04:49] <pocketdrummer> onyx: there's also windows fonts in Add/Remove if you wanted those.
[04:50] <jokie51> russ: yes. generally when one is a KDE user he/she doesn't use Gnome, and vice versa. :P
[04:50] <jokie51> Kubuntu is much easier to start with
[04:50] <jokie51> its the same OS, just built around KDE
[04:50] <Onyx> pocketdrummer: Nah, I've got the windows fonts installed; just looking for how to install custom fonts and the like.
[04:50] <_Oz_> what's the diff essentially, between KDE and gnome?
[04:50] <jokie51> _Oz_: Well, for one, Gnome is for retarded people. :)
[04:50] <Jack_Sparrow> _Oz_: Different desktops and basic app selection
[04:51] <jokie51> Or at least that is what Mr. Torvalds says.
[04:51] <Jack_Sparrow> jokie51: Please dont do that
[04:51] <pocketdrummer> jokie51:  you're hurting my heart man :_(
[04:51] <jokie51> Gnome is oversimplified.
[04:51] <cptnapalm> Odd thing is when Gnome and KDE started out, they looked almost exactly the same... Now they look rather different since Gnome changed the default to a Windows/Mac hybrid interface
[04:51] <jokie51> It's insulting to Linux users.
[04:51] <Starnestommy> jokie51: so is trolling
[04:51] <bob__> i went 2 an apple store 2day and asked if i could buy the OS and install it on a pentium box and it took like 4-5 ppl asking eachother if it could b done
[04:52] <bob__> then the answer came from the back of the store:
[04:52] <ipodtouch> does ubuntu still suck?
[04:52] <cptnapalm> jokie51: Odd seeing as Gnome and all its stuff was developed by Linux users whereas KDE started with a proprietary toolkit
[04:52] <ipodtouch> can i run photoshop on it yet
[04:52] <bob__> "the official answer is no, but...."
[04:52] <supershort> yes u can
[04:52] <acee1234> Jack sparrow wich link was that the gutsy install guide?
[04:52] <Starnestommy> ipodtouch: with wine, I think
[04:52] <supershort> use wine for photosohp
[04:52] <ipodtouch> can i run games, photoshop and shit
[04:52] <zelrikriando> ipodtouch: with Vbox you can
[04:52] <ipodtouch> no
[04:52] <pocketdrummer> jokie51: It depends what your target audience is. Gnome and KDE are both user friendly. So, naturally, more people will be inclined to switch from windows if it isn't a pain to learn.
[04:52] <ipodtouch> i mean
[04:52] <ipodtouch> does adobe support ubuntu
[04:52] <ipodtouch> i dont have time to waste
[04:52] <FloodBot3> ipodtouch: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:52] <ipodtouch> i use photoshop professionaly
[04:52] <Dr_willis> ipodtouch,  try reading and doing some research ane less trolling.
[04:53] <cptnapalm> ipodtouch: You obviously have time to waste.  You are on IRC.
[04:53] <Jack_Sparrow> beat me to it
[04:53] <ipodtouch> garbage
[04:53] <russ> jokie51, if I go back into synaptic package manager and remove kde-desktop, is it likely to make everything in my gnome system work again?
[04:53] <zelrikriando> ipodtouch: a friend of mine does too, he installed Vbox and CS3
[04:53] <bob__> has anyone fixed the slow boot with gutsy?
[04:53] <zelrikriando> ipodtouch: he installed ubuntu this morning
[04:53] <pocketdrummer> ipodtouch: You can get Gimp, which is kind of the same as photoshop. Adobe Flash works (unless the repository tanks)
[04:53] <jokie51> russ: most likely not, but you can try :)
[04:54] <bob__> i like gutsy but it took 5 min to boot up
[04:54] <mastx> hello! anyone managed to get their wireless working on an ibook g4 with 6.06? i tried both the drivers from linuxwireless & fwcutter... but no luck
[04:54] <badkitty> zelrikriando: Hey
[04:54] <ipodtouch> if unbuntu is so good
[04:54] <ipodtouch> why is there 1145 people here
[04:54] <cptnapalm> bob__:  what speed is the machine?
[04:54] <ipodtouch> asking for help
[04:54] <ipodtouch> when it's surpose to be easy
[04:54] <Jack_Sparrow> ipodtouch:  Stop trolling
[04:54] <bob__> p4 512MB
[04:54] <russ> jokie51 all my desktop icons also disappeared, and to top it off, my keyboard doesn't work in kde - so the kde installation managed to break both
[04:54] <ipodtouch> LOL
[04:54] <Dr_willis> ipodtouch,  you are proving you  know very little..
[04:54] <Onyx> ipodtouch: spelling is supposed to be easy too.
[04:54] <zelrikriando> ipodtouch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAD0ebyFFYY look at this and go away
[04:54] <cptnapalm> ipodtouch: There are magazines, websites and best selling books on Windows problems...
[04:54] <acee1234> so i should whitelist my gpu to fix compiz if i read that right
[04:55]  * Dr_willis is waiting for service pack 1 for Ubuntu to get released.
[04:55] <Seraph> Anyone know how to get a Broadcom to connect to a WEP wireless netwrok?
[04:55] <jokie51> russ: I'd say you're up sh*t creek without a paddle. :)
[04:55] <bob__> i had to laugh at all the koolaid drinkers in the apple store 2dday!!!
[04:55] <pocketdrummer> everyone: he's gone. *phew*
[04:55] <LinuxMercedes> Dr_willis: lol
[04:55] <Flashq009> What is the best opensource software to design websites out of templates?
[04:55] <bob__> perl
[04:55] <amenado> Seraph-> can you even get it working without the encryption first?
[04:55] <cptnapalm> bob__: hmm... Even my slow laptop boots Solaris faster than that...  And Solaris does not boot quickly
[04:55] <napash7> i've installed ubuntu on my external hard drive....i set my BIOS to boot the usb device 1st, but it won't boot, can any 1 help?
[04:55] <bob__> php perl
[04:56] <uhohzombies> i'm having trouble installing gutsy x64. i was able to install i386 using the live cd, but with x64 both live and alternative cause my PC to reboot when mapping something or other
[04:56] <Seraph> amenado: Yes, It now picks up networks, as opposed to having a blank sheet.
[04:56] <danbhfive> Flashq009: maybe drupal?
[04:56] <russ> jokie51, I guess that's one of the dangers of community-supported software, somebody from the community told me it was going to work fine
[04:56] <bob__> it boots fine with dapper and edgy
[04:56] <Seraph> It just won't connect to anything distant or encrypted.
[04:56] <jokie51> napash7: did you install Grub/Lilo to the external hard disk/s MBR?
[04:56] <badkitty> Flashq009: I like Joomla
[04:56] <napash7> jokie51: Yes
[04:56] <zelrikriando> I am sure ipodtouch is running Vista :D
[04:56] <russ> jokie51 although he suggested installing kde-core
[04:56] <Starnestommy> uhohzombies: try adding noapic to the boot options in the livecd
[04:56] <jokie51> russ: well they lied. i tried installing KDE applications and they all pulled in KDE as a dependency and then everything went tits up.
[04:56] <cptnapalm> zelrikriando: Of course he is, it 1Z da R0X0rZ
[04:56] <uhohzombies> thanks, will try that right now
[04:56] <scott_> is there  anyway to get a lexmark x5470 to work on ubuntu
[04:57] <amenado> Seraph-> can you elaborate on what you meant by picks up? you meant detects it or associates to an access point?
[04:57] <pocketdrummer> zelrikriando: I beta tested Vista. I knew ahead of time that I should look for alternatives, lol.
[04:57] <napash7> jokie51: do u mind if PM you?
[04:57] <zelrikriando> lol pocketdrummer
[04:57] <napash7> *if i PM you
[04:57] <russ> jokie so do you have an idea why my keyboard is unresponsive in kde?
[04:57] <jokie51> I don't care if anyone pm's me, to be honest.
[04:57] <amenado> Seraph-> just like your AM radio, you may not be able to pickup stations from alaska, assuming you are not in alaska
[04:57] <jokie51> theres no obligation to answer PM's on the internet so why does everyone get so upset? :P
[04:58] <cptnapalm> bob__: only thing that might help you narrow down the problem that I can think of would be to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst so as not to do the splash and instead display the console output
[04:58] <Flashq009> ok thanks, researching joomla and drupal
[04:58] <Seraph> amenado: Whereas previously the wireless networks tab was completely blank, it now shows all WiFi areas around. So yes, I'd say it detects it. Not sure about the access point.
[04:58] <amenado> jokie its is called net etiguette
[04:58] <chubs730> srupal is nice
[04:58] <chubs730> *drupal
[04:58] <pocketdrummer> zelrikriando: Nothing worked, it was slow, and coming out of standby was an interesting technicolor adventure. Thank god for Ubuntu. :D
[04:58] <badkitty> Ok Yah I am having trouble connecting to mysql Keep getting access denied.. mysql -u root doesn't work and neither does trying to change the pw using mysqladmin -root .. any ideas?
[04:58] <napash7> jokie51: i have grub installed but ubuntu still won't boot from the external usb drive
[04:58] <bob__> cpt: i dabbled with that and i still had no luck. it had something to do with compiz. I didnt have the same prob with compiz on fedora 7
[04:59] <amenado> Seraph-> detecting is a first step towards association to an access point
[04:59] <Seraph> amenado: You'll have to elaborate a bit for me, I'm afraid.
[04:59] <monte> okay now i have my other problems fixed what plugins do i need to play a dvd on the computer?
[04:59] <jokie51> im getting pissed off :P anyone got a pair of those stress reliever balls that you twirl in one hand?
[04:59] <danbhfive> badkitty: have you tried the computer root password?  the password of the first user...?
[05:00] <pocketdrummer> I know we're in the Ubuntu Channel, but what would everyone say is better or at least a close second to Ubuntu?
[05:00] <papuccino1> Hello
[05:00] <napash7> jokie51: is there any way to fix this problem b/c i still can't boot from usb even with the BIOS having the USB device set to boot 1st
[05:00] <jokie51> monte: libdvdcss/libdvdnav/libdvdread
[05:00] <cptnapalm> pocketdrummer: Here's a funny XP story.  About 2 years ago I got a laptop with XP on it.  Eventually wiped out the windows partition in favor of Ubuntu.  One day, decide that I would like a small XP partition for some games.  I pop in the disc and install XP... which couldn't find a driver for my wireless card or audio... I laughed.
[05:00] <papuccino1> Just wanted to say, whoever invented the "negative window" is a freakin' genius.
[05:00] <ChamPro> pocketdrummer: plain ol' Debian
[05:00] <Onyx> does wine use its own font server?
[05:00] <papuccino1> It's so useful for reading ebooks or any text.
[05:00] <monte> in the synaptic
[05:00] <badkitty> danbhfive: I just figured it out.. it needed a -p for some reaosns
[05:00] <amenado> Seraph-> your radio has to detect the signal 1st before it can select to associate to that transmitter
[05:00] <papuccino1> So easy on the eyes.
[05:00] <jokie51> Onyx: yes. fontforge
[05:00] <monte> i put it in the search
[05:00] <papuccino1> Try it out if you have compiz
[05:01] <papuccino1> superkey + n    (superkey is the windows key)
[05:01] <Seraph> amenado: And, if it's on roaming, how do I check if it is able to associate with it?
[05:01] <danbhfive> badkitty: ah yes, -p means to enter a password
[05:01] <Seraph> it being the signal. :P
[05:01] <Onyx> jokie51: How can I install fonts using fontforge?
[05:01] <cptnapalm> bob__: Do you know if it hangs on something in particular?
[05:01] <thinman1189> hey everyone. i'm having some trouble with my internet. i switched from wireless to wired to flash my firmware. i didn't actually flash it, that's not the issue. anyway i went to go reconnect to my wireless and i can't for some reason. what's the command to reboot my net? i tried rebooting my computer but it won't work. i have a Belkin F5D7000 using ndis wrapper.
[05:01] <Scunizi> papuccino1, ok you've got my curiosity.. how to I make a window "negative"
[05:02] <monte> jokie51: do i search that in the add/remove programs
[05:02] <jokie51> fontforge is the rendering engine for wine
[05:02] <papuccino1> Just press superkey + n Scunizi
[05:02] <jokie51> thats all
[05:02] <jokie51> monte: what?
[05:02] <Infinito_> let me ask, now everytime I try to change the desktop visual effects from 'none' to any other level, the frames of all windows change, the closing and minimizing buttons shift to the top left... how can I preserve the compiz stuff but revert that? a print of my screen ->http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/1438/screenshotik8.png
[05:02] <papuccino1> You have to activate it in the compiz gnome manager.
[05:02] <pocketdrummer> cptnapalm: That's pretty funny. It's amazing how fast you can get Ubuntu working on a new system (as long as you don't hit any weird roadblock along the way.)
[05:02] <badkitty> danbhfive: How come NONE of a tutorials say that?? arg
[05:02] <Jangari> does anyone know how to install the mp3/ogg vorbis libraries for sox?
[05:02] <monte> for the dvd to play?
[05:02] <zelrikriando> pocketdrummer: I showed my video of ubuntu this morning to my friend...this afternoon he had ubuntu installed+ Vbox(+XP)
[05:02] <Scunizi> papuccino1, do you have to have all the bells and whistles turned on?
[05:02] <papuccino1> Scunizi: System > Preferences > Advanced Desktop Settings
[05:02] <amenado> Seraph-> associate meant it has established a handshake and connected whereby the ap gives you and ip address and communicate with the ap
[05:02] <badkitty> danbhfive: I suppose it might say that in the manual... but the tutorials SHOULD have that too ... wheres my pacifier?
[05:03] <cptnapalm> pocketdrummer: Its something I like to throw at Windows fanatics when they babble about hardware support.
[05:03] <papuccino1> Scunizi, no, I only have the ones I like for instance, while holding the windows key and mousewheel up I zoom in dynamically. WHICH IS SUPER USEFUL.
[05:03] <amenado> Seraph->  perhaps a tutorial on what is a wireless connection is in order for you..
[05:03] <danbhfive> badkitty: I only use mysql for drupal, and it was in the directions I followed, maybe you need some ubuntu specific tutorials
[05:03] <jokie51> ok theres no freakin way in h*ll i cankeep up with all the questions
[05:03] <Scunizi> papuccino1, yes  I use that too.. can I make any window negative?  It's not working in xchat
[05:03] <jokie51> if people have something to ask me please pm it to me
[05:03] <jokie51> so much to answer, so little time :P
[05:03] <jokie51> im only 1 person.
[05:04] <badkitty> danbhfive: Thats where I found them.. on UBUNTU sites! anyhow, you like drupal better than Joomla?
[05:04] <papuccino1> Maybe you don't have it activated.
[05:04] <pocketdrummer> infinito_: enabling compiz Macifies your windows? Did you install compiz separately or is it the one that comes with Ubuntu?
[05:04] <papuccino1> Scunizi, search for it in the Gnome Compiz Manager.
[05:04] <Scunizi> papuccino1, never mind I found it.. in ccsm.. nice!
[05:04] <cptnapalm> pocketdrummer: Its always sad when someone is new and no one can help because the hardware maker is a jackass about support... I mean here is someone trying something new and through no fault of their own, can't get it running
[05:04] <ninjabob7> has anyone played vdrift?
[05:04] <papuccino1> Scunizi, how about it huh? Incredible, so much easier on the eyes. -cries-
[05:04] <Scunizi> papuccino1, reminds me of irssi
[05:05] <j1solutions> hello all
[05:05] <papuccino1> Ok, see ya gotta go
[05:05] <danbhfive> badkitty: yeah, im stuck on drupal too.  I made a custom module for it.  But, I found drupal simpler in its layout.   I remember a contest between a bunch of them, and drupal and joomla tied
[05:05] <ninjabob7> is anyone knowledgeable about opengl?
[05:05] <pocketdrummer> cptnapalm: Actually, I'm in the middle of that exact issue right now. I have a Creative X-Fi that just WON'T work properly.
[05:05] <cptnapalm> ninjabob7: John Carmack of iD software?  ;)
[05:05] <Scunizi> ninjabob7, ask a definitive question .. get a devinitive answer :)
[05:05] <ninjabob7> anyone in here, that is?
[05:06] <badkitty> danbhfive: Oh.. I just found more support for joomla, and easier to get it started .. could be different now? Who knows...Joomla is great though.. The just had a new relase too
[05:06] <ninjabob7> because I'm not sure if this issue is a bug in the game or something fixable
[05:06] <cptnapalm> pocketdrummer: Which is odd.. as Creative are the same people that came up with OpenAL so as NOT to have to deal with multitudes of different audio architecture
[05:06] <_Oz_> I can't get VM to start
[05:06] <Scunizi> badkitty,  do you know of any online tutorials for changing the theme in joomla? or creating your own?
[05:06] <IceGuest_75> hello all
[05:07] <thinman1189> i switched from wireless to wired to flash my firmware. i didn't actually flash it, that's not the issue. anyway i went to go reconnect to my wireless and i can't for some reason.  i tried rebooting my computer but it won't work. i have a Belkin F5D7000 using ndis wrapper.
[05:07] <cptnapalm> ninjabob7: Not sure this would be the best place for something that specific...  I'm still coping with void pointers...
[05:07] <Thug-life> http://weejewel.net/wubuntu/boot.htm
[05:08] <badkitty> Scunizi: To change the theme, you download new ones and install them into the directory .. To make your own, the best way is to be a CSS and PHP god.. if not, they have some software you can use to give the basic syntax for what is required, then you can fill in the rest using html or some WYSIWYG tool
[05:08] <_Oz_> you around, badkitty?
[05:08] <badkitty> Yah
[05:08] <eu4ea> In vlc I don't get any sound when playing avi files, I have install all of the plugins for vlc, but still nothing, can anyone help?
[05:08] <pocketdrummer> cptnapalm: Up until earlier this month, they didn't even have a working driver (which sorta works with OSS... sorta). It's a little depressing considering the Audigy 2 ZS I got rid of worked perfectly.
[05:08] <cptnapalm> thinman1189: what does ifconfig -a give you in the console?
[05:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Thug-life: Please do not post a link without a description of the problem
[05:08] <Infinito_> pocketdrummer, it's the one that comes with ubuntu, yes it does.. and well, I installed emerald too although the themes are not working.. The windows changing thing happened when I clicked on "GL Desktop", immediately some conflict wtih compiz came up, compiz was disabled. I enabled it again, but the windows thing remained :(
[05:08] <_Oz_> badkitty: getting errors when I try to start a vm
[05:08] <badkitty> _Oz_: OK PM me ok?
[05:08] <K_dallas> Q: What package should i install for this (checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!), thanks
[05:08] <_Oz_> badkitty: I did
[05:08] <cptnapalm> pocketdrummer: Damn that does suck...
[05:08] <_Oz_> ...  you didn't reply
[05:09] <Starnestommy> K_dallas: libqt-dev
[05:09]  * jokie51 goes to talk to the wife
[05:09] <K_dallas> Starnestommy, let me try that, thanks
[05:09] <uhohzombies> x64 gutsy is still rebooting after "kernal alive, kernal direct mapping tables" despite adding noapic to the boot options
[05:09] <thinman1189> cptnapalm: for eth0?
[05:09] <erich> Hello, I recently installed an SB Audigy 2 ZS soundcard but now the only sound I get is in xmms, which does sound really good and the surround even works, anyone know why it only works in xmms?
[05:09] <pocketdrummer> Infinito_: You know, last time I tried to go beyond the default Compiz settings provided in Ubuntu, I bricked the OS. Scary stuff for me.
[05:10] <badkitty> BRB folks!!
[05:10] <_Oz_> wow
[05:10] <_Oz_> my machine is now massively messed up
[05:10] <bob__> my last name is upandowninthewater
[05:10] <_Oz_> something vm did made ubuntu very unhappy
[05:10] <IceGuest_75> just a quick question 7.10 will not let me connect to the net shows the icon but no light on the router as it is not conecting.also this is my first instalation of ubuntu should i load 7.04 as I read there are very few problems with this version as far as conection issuses
[05:10] <monte> libdvdcss libdvdnav libdvdrea were do i go to get them ?
[05:10] <Scunizi> _Oz_, which vm manager are you using?
[05:11] <Infinito_> pocketdrummer, yeah now I wish I haven't messed around with that :/
[05:11] <Dr_willis> erich,  try the bmpx [ player. - Its possible xmms is  dupliocating the front speakers to the rear giving surround sound.
[05:11] <craigbass1976> Ok, turns out I had a bad cable, and somehow the MBR got hosed.  I've got that all fixed, and can boot again to my feisty install.  However, I can't log in.  Getting the "last sesion only lasted 10 seconds" bit.  CtrlAtlF1 takes me to a terminal where I CAN log in, but the text is so big it's useless.  Tried restarting gdm, to no avail
[05:11] <_Oz_> virtualbox, scunizi
[05:11] <amenado> IceGuest_75-> what icon are you referring to?
[05:11] <thiemster> monte: have you tried apt-get?
[05:11] <K_dallas> Starnestommy, i dont seem to have that library. I have a few different ones with qt3 and qt4 which are already installed
[05:11] <Jack_Sparrow> pocketdrummer: http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/how-to-reset-ubuntugnome-settings-to-defaults-without-re-installing/
[05:11] <erich> Maybe, but no sound works in any other programs at all
[05:11] <Scunizi> _Oz_, sorry I don't know that one.. I'm using vmware server.. pretty easy.
[05:11] <Dr_willis> Igot an audigy 2Zs Sound works good for me in all my apps.
[05:11] <erich> Surround is not the issue
[05:11] <_Oz_> yeah
[05:11] <monte> wat is apt-get?
[05:11] <_Oz_> I'm starting to think vmware is looking pretty good
[05:11] <amenado> craigbass1976-> try ctrl +alt+ -  and see if it recyles through font sizes
[05:11] <Jack_Sparrow> pocketdrummer: That is for the next time you make a change that causes issues
[05:11] <thiemster> monte:it's the way to install things in debian-based distros (look it up in wikipedia)
[05:11] <Dr_willis> monte,  time to really read some of the ubuntu starter guides. :)
[05:12] <Dr_willis> !apt-get | monte
[05:12] <ubotu> monte: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:12] <pocketdrummer> Jack_Sparrow: O.O Does that actually work?! If so, you are my hero.
[05:12] <Jack_Sparrow> YEs it works
[05:12] <cptnapalm> monte: search for them in the repositories.  There will be a file which installs with libdvdread (I think) that you run and that will install libdvdcss2
[05:12] <Scunizi> monte, apt-get is what you use at the command line to install packages.
[05:12] <pocketdrummer> Jack_Sparrow: You are my hero!
[05:12] <craigbass1976> amenado, no love there
[05:12] <Jack_Sparrow> pocketdrummer: You do lose your icons on the taskbar but everything else is factory fresh
[05:12] <_Oz_> ugh
[05:12] <_Oz_> ubuntu no longer boots
[05:12] <Jangari> can someone tell me how to get libmp3lame?
[05:12] <monte> o see i kno wat synaptic is lol....
[05:13] <Scunizi> _Oz_, with server you can install any os from cd or iso. with player you're limited to preconfigured vm's
[05:13] <thiemster> monte: (example command "sudo apt-get install libdvdcss")
[05:13] <uhohzombies> any idea why gutsy x64 will not install? i386 works fine as long as i choose safe graphics mode, but x64 reboots upon kernal direct mapping tables
[05:13] <_Oz_> wow, that was a spectacular failure.  everyone: recommending you DO NOT install virtualbox
[05:13] <amenado> craigbass1976-> try to remove splash from your grub
[05:13] <Omlette> Jangari: sudo apttitude install libmp3lame
[05:13] <Omlette> I think.
[05:13] <craigbass1976> Eh?
[05:13] <craigbass1976> I've also noticed that the date is march 2005
[05:13] <cptnapalm> monte: Just look for them in synaptic.  Should be there
[05:13] <Holmes89> hey can anyone help me with some server quesions?
[05:13] <amenado> _Oz_-> ahem, not everyone, i like virtual box
[05:13] <Holmes89> I'm new with command line
[05:13] <craigbass1976> yet the motherboard knows the right date... not sure if this is important
[05:13] <monte> i tryed and there not
[05:13] <Holmes89> I just need to update my web page file but I don't know how to
[05:13] <_Oz_> amenado: it just hosed my entire ubuntu install
[05:14] <craigbass1976> Holmes89, perhaps.  WHat's the issue
[05:14] <_Oz_> good lord
[05:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Infinito_: Did you see the post to pocketdrummer?
[05:14] <_Oz_> dunno how, but it did
[05:14] <monte> only one in there close to it is libdv4
[05:14] <amenado> _Oz_-> what were you doing?
[05:14] <craigbass1976> Holmes89, you can vi it
[05:14] <uhohzombies> better yet, is there any worthwhile reason to use x64, despite having a 64 bit processor
[05:14] <Scunizi> Holmes89, web page file?  you mean index.htm
[05:14] <Jangari> grr, i must not have the right repos set up for the lame encoder
[05:14] <Holmes89> vi?
[05:14] <_Oz_> amenado: just following the install instructions is all.
[05:14] <Starnestommy> Holmes89: actually, vim.  it's a text editor
[05:14] <cptnapalm> I don't think libmp3lame is in the repos...
[05:14] <_Oz_> now ubuntu literally won't boot.  insane
[05:14] <Jangari> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "libmp3lame"
[05:14] <Holmes89> yeah I want to copy my assets folder and all of my web pages I've made
[05:15] <pocketdrummer> Infinito_: In case you didn't see what Jack_Sparrow said, check this out, it's golden... http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/how-to-reset-ubuntugnome-settings-to-defaults-without-re-installing/
[05:15] <Holmes89> to the /var/www/ folder
[05:15] <amenado> _Oz_-> you were just installing and has it ever completed or you are still stuck on the install?
[05:15] <Scunizi> Holmes89, vi can be complicated for the first time user.. you could also use gedit..
[05:15] <cptnapalm> Starnestommy: I'm not sure vi is the best bet for someone who can't yet do basic shell stuff...
[05:15] <_Oz_> it appeared to install ok
[05:15] <craigbass1976> Holmes89, heh... command line text editor.  Pretty much you type vi filename, hit i once you're in, do the edits, and hit Esc, then :wq to write and quit.  If you screw up or get nervous, hit :q! instead to quit without writing
[05:15] <Starnestommy> cptnapalm: maybe emacs or nano
[05:15] <Holmes89> how will I use gedit to do this though?
[05:15] <_Oz_> it kept giving me an error msg when starting a vm
[05:15] <_Oz_> so I rebooted
[05:15] <_Oz_> and that's when all hell broke loose
[05:15] <Infinito_> hm I'll look that up thx jack-desktop pocketdrummer
[05:15] <chubs730> vim is nicer
[05:15] <craigbass1976> Holmes89, is the web server in front of you, or remote?
[05:15] <jack-desktop> what Infinito_ ?
[05:16] <Holmes89> in front
[05:16] <Jack_Sparrow> pocketdrummer: THere is your test case but I have had two people here today alone that had this work for them, plus I tried it on my own system first for a test.. Yes it works
[05:16] <cptnapalm> Starnestommy: If he's in X, then I'd recommend just using gedit... for the moment, to him...
[05:16] <_Oz_> is vmware a little more robust and less prone to this kind of thing?
[05:16] <Scunizi> Holmes89, do you have a copy of index.html seperate from where it is on the server?
[05:16] <Infinito_> jack-desktop, wrong guy sorry
[05:16] <_Oz_> even if it's slower, I think I'd want something more stable even at a performance hit.
[05:16] <Holmes89> I don't have an interface
[05:16] <Infinito_> thx Jack_Sparrow
[05:16] <Holmes89> I have it on a thumb drive
[05:16] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[05:16] <Jordan_U> when I try to use perl style regular expressions with grep (  grep --perl-regexp ) I get the error : "grep: The -P option is not supported" but it's in the man page as an option, is there something that I need to do to add support for this?
[05:16] <Scunizi> Holmes89, interface?  you want to edit it live?
[05:16] <thiemster> can i dual boot windows 2000 (dell edition) with my already installed Ubuntu 7.10?
[05:16] <craigbass1976> Oh, well you can just sudo chown -R holmes:holmes /var/www/ and you'll be able to use gedit and edit the files
[05:16] <chubs730> thiemster: yes
[05:16] <Scunizi> thiemster, yes
[05:17] <_Oz_> vboxdrv is apparently screwing up the boot
[05:17] <thiemster> chubs730: how?
[05:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Infinito_: One line in cli and restart x, come right back and let us know when you are done
[05:17] <IceGuest_75> ok should i install 7.04 to take care of my internet connection or try to fix 7.10? anyone
[05:17] <Holmes89> I'm sorry I mean I am using just command line, I haven't installed a gui for the server
[05:17] <_Oz_> linux won't boot except in low graphics mode
[05:17] <thiemster> chubs730: I tried it once and the windows 2000 installation failed
[05:17] <pocketdrummer> Jack_Sparrow: I've lost count of how many times I've reformatted to fix things. This is probably the best bit of information I've received in a looooong time.
[05:17] <_Oz_> arrrrgh why'd I do this why why why
[05:17] <Scunizi> Holmes89, then vi or nano.. nano is simpler
[05:17] <craigbass1976> Holmes89, then you'd either have to set up a nfs share so you could get at it from another box, or learn vi
[05:17] <chubs730> thiemster: you'll have to partition beforehand in linux, using gparted
[05:17] <Jordan_U> thiemster, Be careful though, sometimes the OEM restore CD's reformat the entire drive
[05:17] <thiemster> chubs730: you mean with the gparted livecd?
[05:18] <chubs730> thiemster: you'll most likely have to use the livecd yes
[05:18] <amenado> _Oz_-> not all can afford an high rez capable graphics card..twas designed to work with older machines
[05:18] <thiemster> chubs730: after i partition, do i just install windows 2000 the normal way?
[05:18] <Jack_Sparrow> pocketdrummer: It is not for everything..  mostly things like messing up a theme or other settings in gnome
[05:18] <Holmes89> I have ubuntu desktop installed as a separate partition on the computer I'm using as a server is there a way I can mount the drive to change the file?
[05:18] <chubs730> thiemster: shrink your linux partition and format it to ntfs, and windows 2000 should recognize it and install
[05:18] <_Oz_> amenado: tell that to the guys who built compiz-fusion
[05:18] <_Oz_> :)
[05:18] <uhohzombies> my gutsy x64 install is rebooting my pc when 'kernel mapping tables', i can't get it to install. any ideas? is x64 even worth using over i386 for home desktop purposes?
[05:18] <jokie51> hmm
[05:18] <thiemster> chubs730: is there anyway to do it without deleting all my linux stuff?
[05:18] <chubs730> thiemster: and then you'll have to use the ubuntu livecd to rebuild grub, but that's fairly easy
[05:18] <supershort> how can i cancel all software installations
[05:19] <jokie51> everyone can afford a "high rez graphics card"
[05:19] <jokie51> heres an example.
[05:19] <Scunizi> !mount > Holmes
[05:19] <pocketdrummer> Jack_Sparrow: That's ok, it just gives me another option before throwing in the towel.
[05:19] <amenado> _Oz_-> compiz has a minimum, ubuntu install has much much less requirements
[05:19] <craigbass1976> Holmes89, yes, nfs share is like windows sharing for linux.
[05:19] <Scunizi> !mount > Holmes89
[05:19] <Jack_Sparrow> _Oz_: Chill... look for a backup of your old xorg
[05:19] <Jordan_U> pocketdrummer, You almost never *need* to do a full reinstall to fix a problem
[05:19] <chubs730> thiemster: yes, gparted will automatically do that for you, it shows you what you've used and you can just drag the space smaller
[05:19] <jokie51> NVIDIA Geforce FX5900: $59
[05:19] <jokie51> lol
[05:19] <chubs730> thiemster: unless you've used up almost all your disk space
[05:19] <_Oz_> how, jack spar-- er, CAPTAIN jack sparrow?
[05:19] <jokie51> capable of driving two 1920x1200 LCD's
[05:19] <Holmes89> nfs share? how does that work?
[05:19] <thiemster> chubs730: nope, i haven't used up the space. i still have about 50 gigabytes left
[05:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Jordan_U: Hi, did you have a help page for the bcm943xx cards?
[05:20] <Munchkinguy> How can I stop mplayerplug.in from opening in its own window?
[05:20] <thiemster> chubs730: and that's more than enough for windows 2000. it's a pretty small installation
[05:20] <Jordan_U> !broadcom | Jack_Sparrow
[05:20] <ubotu> Jack_Sparrow: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[05:20] <thiemster> chubs730: thanks for your advice, i'll try it again one of these days
[05:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Jordan_U: Not the same card
[05:20] <chubs730> thiemster: yeah that'll be fine then, just boot into gparted, shrink your ext2 or ext3 or whatever you're using for ubuntu, and then format the blank space as ntfs
[05:20] <Jordan_U> Jack_Sparrow, Sorry, misread
[05:20] <Jack_Sparrow> _Oz_: Are you in gui.. low res?
[05:20] <chubs730> thiemster: no problem
[05:20] <craigbass1976> Scunizi, hey, I've never tried nano before.  Thanks for the tip
[05:20] <pocketdrummer> Jordan_U: Well, sometimes something happens where programs stop working. Like deskbar died and wouldn't come back, Ardour would close itself after opening. Things like that. Reinstalling and even completely removing and reinstalling didn't work. Do you guys know how to fix things like that?
[05:20] <Scunizi> Holmes89, why did you create a seperate partion for the server install. you could have included that with the normal Ubuntu install or done it in a virtual machine..
[05:20] <Jordan_U> Jack_Sparrow, I don't now but let me look a second
[05:21] <Scunizi> craigbass1976, np.. it's saved me several times.
[05:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Jordan_U: dont bother
[05:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Jordan_U: I mistook you for someone else..
[05:21] <supershort> it says this 'setting up vnccommon' and it does nothing but stop me from installing other shit
[05:21] <Holmes89> because I'm only testing out the software, getting used to it so when I'm finally able to make a server I'll know what to do
[05:21] <craigbass1976> Scunizi, I've just been using vi the whole time.  Nano's neat though.
[05:21] <amenado> craigbass1976-> if you ever get stuck with editing a text file,  ed is always available
[05:21] <Jack_Sparrow> _Oz_: Fire up thunar or nautilus and look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.dateofbackup
[05:22] <Scunizi> craigbass1976, I tried vi once but I didn't have a referance handy for how to save and exit.. really frustrating.
[05:22] <chubs730> jeez who started the editor debate
[05:22] <supershort> I neeeeed hlep
[05:22] <supershort> help
[05:22] <prohna> anyone ever tried to install the lingua translate module?
[05:22] <Scunizi> !ask | supershort
[05:22] <ubotu> supershort: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[05:22] <prohna> so that i can install this xchat-babelfish script?
[05:22] <_Oz_> then what, jack?
[05:22] <pocketdrummer> You know, there is one thing that I still have a problem fixing that you guys might know more about. Whenever I edit xorg.conf hit F7, my video goes into Low-Quality mode or Low-res mode or something like that. Do you know what could be wrong?
[05:22] <supershort> i asked the question
[05:22] <badkitty> _Oz_: Ok Im back
[05:22] <supershort> it says this 'setting up vnccommon' and it does nothing but stop me from installing other shit
[05:22] <Holmes89> what do I do with nfs ?
[05:22] <_Oz_> badkitty: virtualbox VERY BAD
[05:23] <Scunizi> pocketdrummer, restart x with ctrl+alt+backspace.. might fix it.
[05:23] <Jack_Sparrow> _Oz_: Copy it over the existing xorg.conf  after saving the current one of course
[05:23] <badkitty> _Oz_: How is that?
[05:23] <_Oz_> it hosed me
[05:23] <amenado> !lanugage | supershort
[05:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lanugage - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:23] <_Oz_> ubuntu wouldn't boot for a time
[05:23] <Jack_Sparrow> supershort: Letrs keep it family friendly.. thanks
[05:23] <badkitty> _Oz_: wouldn't boot because of vbox? Thats ridiculous.. what did you do?
[05:23] <supershort> how can i fix the problem tho
[05:23] <pocketdrummer> Scunizi: I've actually tried rebooting altogether, but it doesn't work. I have to restore xorg.conf from xorg.conf_backup.
[05:23] <chubs730> supershort: you may have to manually uninstall vnccommon, unless you really need it
[05:23] <supershort> how i do that
[05:24] <craigbass1976> Scunizi, yeah, especially if you were in vi and not vim.  Vi kind of blows
[05:24] <Scunizi> pocketdrummer, do what are you editing that's making the difference?
[05:24] <erich> Is there a way I can reconfigure the installed codecs? I installed a new soundcard and now I only have sound in xmms
[05:24] <chubs730> supershort: dpkg should do it
[05:24] <spud213> help on 7.10 internet connection
[05:24] <acee1234> can someone tell me why my max display resolution is 1400x 1050 should be 1680x 1050
[05:25] <papuccino1> Hm... there's three choices for the IDLE python enviroment. Which should I choose?
[05:25] <Jack_Sparrow> acee1234: Common problem is wrong v/h refresh rates in the xorg
[05:25] <chubs730> papuccino1: what do you mean?
[05:25] <pocketdrummer> scunizi, the mouse configuration, surprisingly. I have a G7 Mouse and I'm trying to get all the buttons to work. Right now, I'm using btnx (which halfway works).
[05:25] <cptnapalm> acee1234: What kind of card is it?
[05:25] <papuccino1> There's : 2.4   and  2.5 (both maintaned the Ubuntu community) and then there's 2.5 maintained by Canonical LTD.
[05:25] <papuccino1> halp!
[05:25] <supershort> so
[05:25] <papuccino1> Sorry didn't explain well. There's three in the Repositories.
[05:25] <_Oz_> badkitty: all I did was follow the instructions, then ubuntu wouldn't boot when I rebooted
[05:26] <papuccino1> Applications> Add/Remove
[05:26] <acee1234> cptnapalm: ati x1400
[05:26] <chubs730> papuccino1: ahh, IDLE isn't vital, but 2.5 community or canonical should be fine
[05:26] <_Oz_> it was that driver package I think
[05:26] <Scunizi> pocketdrummer, can't help with the specifics but now you know that there is an error in what you're trying to do.
[05:26] <_Oz_> I got it booted back up but all of my gfx settings are gone
[05:26] <acee1234> Jack_Sparrow: solution?
[05:26] <chubs730> papuccino: unless you have python 2.4 of course
[05:26] <cptnapalm> acee1234: know the make and model of the monitor?
[05:26] <papuccino1> chubs: what do you mean isn't vital? Please explain a bit, I know I can still program in Terminal, is that what you mean?
[05:26] <j_humphrey> how do i install gtk themes?
[05:26] <owen1> how to find the video card i have?
[05:26] <Holmes89> how will I use nfs or nano to copy over my html code and assets folder?
[05:26] <_Oz_> trying to restore from xorg.conf backup now
[05:26] <_Oz_> recommend you DO NOT use virtual box
[05:26] <Starnestommy> owen1: lspci
[05:26] <Jack_Sparrow> acee1234: Find the v/h for your specific monitor and edit the xorg..again..:)
[05:26] <papuccino1> j_humphry: download Emerald from synaptic
[05:26] <Scunizi> owen1, lspci
[05:26] <spud213> can someone please post a link where i can read on how to fix my net connection in 7.10 thanks
[05:26] <acee1234> cptnapalm: laptop um..... dell e1505
[05:26] <Holmes89> I'm confused about what this can do for me
[05:26] <amenado> _Oz_-> stop trolling
[05:27] <owen1> Scunizi: thanks
[05:27] <badkitty> _Oz_: That is very strange...Seriously Ive never had a problem with it.. I'll even make a screen shot of it if you want
[05:27] <_Oz_> I am not trolling.
[05:27] <Jack_Sparrow> acee1234: Same difference..
[05:27] <chubs730> papuccino1: well, IDLE is simply a text editor geared towards python
[05:27] <cptnapalm> acee1234: hrrm...
[05:27] <erich> I installed a new soundcard and now I only have sound in xmms, any idea what might cause this?
[05:27] <j_humphrey> papuccino1, i downloaded a gtk theme, but its in a bunch of folders, how do i get it in a .emeralrd file?
[05:27] <_Oz_> hey, how do I edit xorg.conf and save it as root?
[05:27] <papuccino1> chubs: So IDLE is simply like Gedit? All it does is provide color syntax for Python?
[05:27] <_Oz_> using text editor in the gui?
[05:27] <chubs730> papuccino1: it may actually suit you better to use another IDE, because IDLE does a few things for you taht are unconventional
[05:27] <Jack_Sparrow> _Oz_: You are not trolling, but you are on a bit of a rant.. And I am your buddy telling you this
[05:28] <papuccino1> chubs: Recommendations perhaps?
[05:28] <chubs730> papuccino1: yes almost, but it also has a terminal to test python code
[05:28] <cptnapalm> Anybody remember what that app is that lets you choose your monitor from a bunch of presets?
[05:28] <pocketdrummer> _Oz_, I open a terminal, type sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:28] <chubs730> papuccino1: i use geany
[05:28] <_Oz_> Yeah, it's just that damn virtualbox...  I had this install set up perfectly...  I was just really annoyed that it messed me up so badly,
[05:28] <Seraph> If you're trying to connect to a WEP manually, how can you select Password/Passphrase, as opposed to Hex or ASCII?
[05:28] <Starnestommy> cptnapalm: somewhere in System > Administration
[05:28] <acee1234> ok nother issue if i try to restart x only my background shows and the comp freezes
[05:28] <_Oz_> But I've got it under control. :)
[05:28] <papuccino1> j_humphry: Open emerald, and choose import. Browse to the location and hopefully you'll see it there to import.
[05:28] <Scunizi> Holmes89, nano is for editing files that you can get to. It won't copy anything.  You can mount the other partition and get to it. I just can't explain exactly how to do that.
[05:28] <monte> libdvdcss/libdvdnav/libdvdread were do i find them they are not listed in the synaptic so were else or how do i do it
[05:28] <papuccino1> j_humphry: If the file is comatible...
[05:28] <Jack_Sparrow> _Oz_: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg   or gksudo thunar
[05:28] <papuccino1> chubs: Is that how you spell it "geany"
[05:28] <cptnapalm> _Oz_: open a command line and sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:29] <badkitty> _Oz_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure /etc/X11/xorg.conf ???
[05:29] <craigbass1976> Has anyone else run into the "session only lasted 10 seconds" message?  I've been reading around and haven't found theright answer yet
[05:29] <chubs730> papuccino1: and simply running python  "codething" in the terminal will get you the interactive thing just like idle
[05:29] <amenado> Seraph-> you have already proven you can associate and connect using plaing text ie without wep/wpa/leal encryption?
[05:29] <badkitty> _Oz_: Or you just want to edit it?
[05:29] <spud213> thanks all for all your help very useful
[05:29] <cptnapalm> Starnestommy: Ah, found it.  Thanks
[05:29] <craigbass1976> Oh man, it's 12:30.  Forget I asked--- I'll look into it tomorrow
[05:29] <Seraph> amenado: Yes.
[05:29] <chubs730> papuccino1: yeah, just look in the repos (add/remove programs) at IDE's
[05:29] <_Oz_> how can I rename the backup file to the current file
[05:29] <_Oz_> using the terminal?
[05:29] <acee1234> brb
[05:29] <badkitty> sudo cp name of old file name of new file
[05:29] <pocketdrummer> What's the difference between sudo and gksudo?
[05:29] <chubs730> papuccino1: synaptic will have more too
[05:30] <Starnestommy> pocketdrummer: gksudo is graphical
[05:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !gksudo Very Important
[05:30] <chubs730> pocketdrummer: sudo is commandline, gksudo is graphical
[05:30] <cptnapalm> acee1234: Ok, try this (No guarantees though)  Open System>Administration>Screen and Graphics
[05:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !gksudo
[05:30] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[05:30] <badkitty> _Oz_: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:30] <amenado> Seraph-> next is to find out if your wifi driver supports such encryption, read up from the vendors web site about its capabilities
[05:30] <acee1234> cptnapalm:  ok
[05:30] <papuccino1> chubs: Yeah I know you can run Python in terminal, but having to write "python test.py" everytime I want to test a module is troubling....
[05:30] <owen1> i want to connect pc to tv. do i need to do anything other than connecting the cables?
[05:30] <cptnapalm> acee1234: Ok, Now click on Model
[05:30] <badkitty> pocketdrummer: AFAIK gk is used for graphical operations sudo is for command line
[05:30] <Scunizi> monte, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:30] <chubs730> papuccino1: well just stick with IDLE then, I use it sometimes myself, i was just saying it's not necessary
[05:31] <_Oz_> thanks
[05:31] <_Oz_> I am rebooting now, badkitty and jack
[05:31] <Jordan_U> papuccino1, What are you trying to do ?
[05:31] <_Oz_> hopefully this works
[05:31] <chubs730> papuccino1: either 2.5 will work
[05:31] <_Oz_> sorry again about the rant
[05:31] <Ashfire908> i had installed ubuntu 7.10 on this old computer that had the clock set to the future. (havn't used it in years) i ran ntpdate-debian, and now all the files are in the future and sudo doesn't work.
[05:31] <Jack_Sparrow> cya tomorrow
[05:31] <pocketdrummer> Jack_Sparrow, This is new to me and concerning. So, I type !gksudo if I'm working with graphical (non-terminal) applications?
[05:31] <_Oz_> how did it manage to screw me up so bad? I followed the directions precisely
[05:31] <_Oz_> first time I've come across that in ubuntu
[05:31] <papuccino1> chubs: I'll try Geany though. Sounds interesting with the code autocompleting. :P It's aimed towards Python though right?
[05:31] <densone> getting an install error with Ubuntu/ Intel 64 Bit. Right at the very end it say "cannot install Grub on HD0"
[05:31] <Jack_Sparrow> pocketdrummer: Yes, extremely important
[05:31] <acee1234> cptnapalm:  ok
[05:31] <uhohzombies> my gutsy x64 install is rebooting my pc when 'kernel mapping tables', i can't get it to install. any ideas? is x64 even worth using over i386 for home desktop purposes?
[05:31] <monte> scunizi: thank u
[05:31] <chubs730> papuccino1: not aimed towards it, just supports it among others
[05:31] <Scunizi> monte, np
[05:31] <papuccino1> Jordan: Oh nothing much, just learning along, first time this week using Python.
[05:31] <badkitty> _Oz_: I dunno .. maybe it was something else?? Im gonna finish my set up again Ill let u know how it goes
[05:31] <papuccino1> chubs: Ok, cool.
[05:31] <Nuke_> something's accessing the hard drive... over and over and over repeatedly. what's a good way to figure out what it is
[05:31] <pocketdrummer> Jack_Sparrow, So, just to be sure, you need the ! before gksudo, correct?
[05:32] <Jordan_U> uhohzombies, To that last question, probably not
[05:32] <cptnapalm> acee1234: I'm going to go see if I can find out what kind of screen your model has.  BRB
[05:32] <Nuke_> and no, 'top' doesn't sort by IO usage
[05:32] <_Oz_> every time I boot GRUB bootloader defaults to "memtest" instead of my standard ubuntu
[05:32] <acee1234> cptnapalm: alright
[05:32] <monte> scunizi: if i have anymore trouble i will pm u k
[05:32] <Jack_Sparrow> pocketdrummer: no...
[05:32] <Jordan_U> papuccino1, Do you know about #! ?
[05:32] <Jack_Sparrow> pocketdrummer: go to terminal and type gksudo nautilus
[05:32] <Scunizi> monte.. just post here with my nick.. if i'm around I'll answer :)
[05:32] <densone> I am installing to a 2.2TB HD0 , that should be ok right?
[05:32] <suitengusaiga> I have a question about the administrator "screens and graphics" option.  I was using it and it was working fine, but now it says "starting" and then closes...
[05:32] <uhohzombies> thanks, jordan_u
[05:32] <papuccino1> Jordan: Yeah I read about it. I think it's to make the module a executable of sorts correct?
[05:32] <monte> k
[05:32] <chubs730> densone: jesus christ partition that
[05:32] <Scunizi> densone, sure can I use some of the space too?
[05:33] <owen1> i want to connect pc to tv. do i need to do anything other than connecting the cables?
[05:33] <winnerrlz93> hey any1 familiar with UNetbootin
[05:33] <papuccino1> Jordan: You have to put it in the first row, right?
[05:33] <Dr_willis> where do you even find a single 2.2 TB hd...
[05:33] <Jack_Sparrow> pocketdrummer: I need to go, I am almost never here on weekends.. all week is enough, but if you need me. find me here weekdays
[05:33] <winnerrlz93> hey any1 familiar with UNetbootin
[05:33] <_Oz_> darn!! didn't work
[05:33] <Jordan_U> _Oz_, Make sure that memtest isn't the first option ( from the top of the file ) in your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:33] <densone> its 6x75GB Drives running raid 10
[05:33] <Scunizi> owen1, make sure the resolution is set correctly after hooking it up.
[05:33] <_Oz_> it's not, jordan
[05:33] <densone> 750GB
[05:33] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:33] <winnerrlz93> hey any1 familiar with UNetbootin
[05:33] <ubud> what software can covert dvd video into Video CD
[05:33] <Scunizi> dennda, yowser!
[05:33] <densone> Using it for some basic storage, but this grub setup is fucking me over
[05:33] <Jack_Sparrow> winnerrlz93: Please do not repeat
[05:33] <owen1> Scunizi: how do i know the correct resolution?
[05:33] <chubs730> densone: are you sure your math is right?
[05:33] <densone> never seen it before.
[05:33] <winnerrlz93> srry
[05:34] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[05:34] <pocketdrummer> Jack_Sparrow, sorry to keep you. Thank you for all your help!
[05:34] <densone> This system is actuall Opteron
[05:34] <winnerrlz93> well if some1 would answer me
[05:34] <Jordan_U> _Oz_, It could also be that it is not set to use the first line by default, can you pastebin your sources.lst?
[05:34] <Jack_Sparrow> pocketdrummer: Zzzz Goodnight
[05:34] <Scunizi> owen1, check in the tv's manuel.. it should tell u.
[05:34] <Jack_Sparrow> _Oz_: See you monday
[05:34] <_Oz_> gnite jack
[05:34] <winnerrlz93> does any1 know anything about UNetbootin
[05:34] <_Oz_> thanks for the help again
[05:34] <owen1> Scunizi: thanks
[05:34] <densone> I beleive the Ext3 Limit is 4T? Am I right?
[05:35] <winnerrlz93> can some one help me with UNetbootin
[05:35] <papuccino1> chubs: OMG CHUBS!!! I can execute the program without using the Terminal! -high five!-
[05:35] <machrider> how do i see what options are available when installing a particular package?
[05:35] <amenado> !repeat | winnerrlz93
[05:35] <j_humphrey> how do I install this theme: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Dark+Ice?content=69886
[05:35] <ubotu> winnerrlz93: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:35] <papuccino1> chubs: Thanks for recommending Geany.
[05:35] <Scunizi> owen1, np.. once you get it hooked up try playing openarena.. could be lots of fun!
[05:35] <chubs730> papuccino1: haha, no problem, enjoy your python
[05:35] <owen1> Scunizi: what is openarena?
[05:36] <Scunizi> owen1, it's an online FPS game
[05:36] <lirit> how can swap the escape and caps key for every keyboard layout? without running the xmodmap every time i switch the layout using the keyboard indicator?
[05:36] <cptnapalm> acee1234: Do you know if you are using the ATI restricted drivers or not?
[05:36] <Jordan_U> papuccino1, If you put "#!/usr/bin/env perl" or simply "#!/usr/bin/perl" at the beginning of a text file and set the permissions to executable with chmod then the shell will pass that file to python if you to to "execute" the file, if you put "#!/usr/bin/env perl" it will try to run it with perl
[05:37] <ubud> what software in ubuntu can convert dvd video into video CD
[05:37] <papuccino1> Jordan: Thank you for the tip. :D
[05:37] <ubd> hello i have ubuntu 7.10 64 installed on my laptop and it is overheating even when idle and after being extremely hot it shots down
[05:37] <Scunizi> ubud, devede.. it's in synaptic
[05:38] <winnerrlz93> can some one help me with UNetbootin
[05:38] <amenado> ubd-> really? thats amazing, your about to melt your mobo?
[05:38] <chubs730> nooobody knows that that is winner
[05:38] <Scunizi> winnerrlz93, what is UNetbootin?
[05:38] <owen1> Scunizi: i need svideo cables, right?
[05:38] <papuccino1> ubud: Maybe it's you fan. Laptops have problems with those.
[05:38] <chubs730> http://lubi.sourceforge.net/unetbootin.html
[05:39] <winnerrlz93> i have it i'm just stuck with something
[05:39] <_Oz_> I am going to start this ubuntu install over again from scratch
[05:39] <Scunizi> owen1, depends on your video card and tv input.. my tv has a vga input and hdmi which is basically the same as dvi.  adaptor needed.
[05:39] <_Oz_> something's majorly wrong
[05:39] <LinuxMercedes> ubd: Take apart your laptop, get some canned air, and clean the dust out
[05:39] <_Oz_> luckily I was just fooling around with that install
[05:39] <_Oz_> for compiz effects
[05:39] <rainwalker> _Oz_: fresh installs FTW
[05:39] <owen1> Scunizi: i have nvidia.
[05:39] <Jordan_U> _Oz_, Can you pastebin your sources.lst?
[05:39] <ubd> laptop is brand new
[05:39] <Scunizi> owen1,  on the computer.. but what kind of input jacks do you have on the tv?
[05:40] <_Oz_> FTW?
[05:40] <ubd> heating problem about cpu frequency handlers but i coulnd understand how to solve the problem
[05:40] <_Oz_> jordan, thanks for the offer to help, but that wasn't my main problem
[05:40] <owen1> Scunizi: it looks like 2 small rounded holes.
[05:40] <Jordan_U> _Oz_, Specifically, is the first non-commented line "default         0"
[05:40] <neeto> I asked this in #apache to no avail, so I'm gonna try my luck here: on apache, how do you get your server to list hidden files over HTTP?
[05:40] <Jordan_U> ?
[05:40] <owen1> Scunizi: i think it's svideo?
[05:40] <rainwalker> _Oz_: For The Win
[05:40] <densone> is there a good guide on manually partitioning ?
[05:41] <_Oz_> ah. :)
[05:41] <ubd> therer utilities like cpudyn etc but synaptic doesnt let me o install them to keep another program
[05:41] <owen1> Scunizi: maybe it's 3 holes.
[05:41] <cptnapalm> acee1234: Still there?
[05:41] <badkitty> _Oz_: Hmm Yeha I am booting Backtrack2 right now from my virtualbox
[05:41] <monte> scunizi: that website u gave me worked but it got half way and broke it say i ahve to broken packages how do i fix it
[05:41] <LinuxMercedes> ubd: ok, well, that's weird.  Not sure what's wrong.  (although I can personally attest to cleaning the air ducts when your laptop overheats =])
[05:41] <prohna> cpan apparently needs root
[05:41] <Scunizi> owen1, is it a standard tv or lcd tv?  svideo is a round jack with multiple holes in it.  probaby 3-5 holes.. do yo have svideo out on the video card.?
[05:41] <prohna> how do i do that from terminal?
[05:41] <_Oz_> badkitty: I think it must have been compiz not playing nicely with vm
[05:41] <_Oz_> I guess
[05:41] <Starnestommy> prohna: sudo cpan
[05:41] <pocketdrummer> Does anyone have any Experience with Networking?
[05:42] <Jordan_U> !anyone | pocketdrummer
[05:42] <_Oz_> because it came back with lots of video problems
[05:42] <ubotu> pocketdrummer: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:42] <cptnapalm> pocketdrummer: what sort?
[05:42] <_Oz_> I can't get my nvidia drivers back
[05:42] <Scunizi> monte, i think there is an option in synaptic to check for broken packages and fix them..
[05:42] <badkitty> _Oz_: But I have the same compiz that you do.. what type of card do you have?
[05:42] <_Oz_> nvidia geforce 7600
[05:42] <monte> o does anyone no were that is in the synaptic
[05:42] <badkitty> _Oz_: Mines a 7800 .. basically same card
[05:42] <rainwalker> prohna: to use admin (root) privileges in the terminal, do "sudo" and then the command
[05:42] <Scunizi> pocketdrummer, what's the question?
[05:42] <monte> for broken packages
[05:42] <thiemster> is there any way to start an X display from the command line?
[05:42] <Jordan_U> _Oz_, I assume you are trying to run compiz / use the nvidia drivers in the host OS and not the guest?
[05:42] <_Oz_> there are lots of setting in compiz though
[05:42] <badkitty> monte: what are you looking for?
[05:43] <_Oz_> I had mine running pretty hot
[05:43] <monte> broken packes
[05:43] <owen1> Scunizi: it's standard tv. and no, i don't have svideo according to your description.
[05:43] <monte> packages
[05:43] <pocketdrummer> Well, I'm trying to network a windows XP computer with my Ubuntu computer here. The XP computer has the Printer, and I want to be able to access it over the network.
[05:43] <_Oz_> running the desktop cube, transparency, all kinds of stuff
[05:43] <badkitty> thiemster: try startx
[05:43] <gandhii> where are the icon files stored?          I'd like to change the icon for a link and am not sure where to look for other system icons.
[05:43] <Scunizi> owen1, don't bother. it won't hook to it and actually display anything.
[05:43] <thiemster> badkitty: thx
[05:43] <_Oz_> pocketdrummer: very easy
[05:43] <chubs730> pocketdrummer: samba is your savior
[05:43] <_Oz_> just go to "printing" in system -> administration
[05:44] <Jordan_U> thiemster, Yes, startx, xinit or "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start" depending on what exactly you want to start along with X
[05:44] <Scunizi> pocketdrummer, what you're interested in is samba.. I'll see if ubutu can help
[05:44] <owen1> Scunizi: i didn't understand your last message...
[05:44] <_Oz_> you don't even need samba to print to an xp machine from ubuntu, though
[05:44] <Scunizi> !samba | pocketdrummer
[05:44] <ubotu> pocketdrummer: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[05:44] <thiemster> Jordan_U: thank u
[05:44] <Jordan_U> thiemster, np
[05:44] <owen1> Scunizi: what kind of cable do i need?
[05:44] <monte> badkitty: were do i go to fix broken packages or does anyone kno
[05:44] <pocketdrummer> Thanks, I'll give it a look. :D
[05:45] <badkitty> monte: I think you can do it from the command line.. but I dont know off hand Jordan_U?
[05:45] <Jordan_U> monte, Broken in what way? Are you trying to file a bug or fix a problem on your own computer only?
[05:45] <cptnapalm> monte: I think its sudo apt-get -f install
[05:45] <Scunizi> owen1, if your computer has a standard monitor output and your tv doesn't have svideo or hdmi or a vga input you won't be able to hook up to it. It simply won't convert the signals correctly IF you could find a cable.
[05:45] <cptnapalm> monte: but I might be wrong
[05:45] <Jordan_U> badkitty, Do what?
[05:45] <thiemster> Do ti-calculators (especially ti-84+ SE) work with ubuntu?
[05:46] <cptnapalm> monte: but I don't think it would hurt anything at any rate.
[05:46] <badkitty> Jordan_U: Hey what are the differences in stating x that you gave earlier
[05:46] <chubs730> monte: if your package manager is totally hose go for sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get -f install
[05:46] <monte> his is a major failure of your software management system. Please check for broken packages with synaptic, check the file permissions and correctness of the file '/etc/apt/sources.list' and reload the software information with: 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get install -f'.
[05:46] <_Oz_> compiz is the only logical explanation, badkitty.  I'm seeing lots of people have been using virtualbox without too much problem but I've seen in several places now (forums, tutorials, etc) everyone says don't use compiz with virtualbox.
[05:46] <machrider> i'm trying to install ircd-hybrid with SSL support.  can anyone help me?
[05:46] <monte> thats wat it says in the add remoe thing when i try to get in it
[05:46] <machrider> out of the box, it doesn't appear to support SSL
[05:47] <chubs730> monte: try my previous advice
[05:47] <chubs730> monte: sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get -f install
[05:47] <chubs730> in a terminal
[05:47] <cptnapalm> monte: Try sudo apt-get -f install
[05:47] <badkitty> _Oz_: Hmm I dont buy it... Maybe I am just extremely lucky but all I had to do was sudp apt-get install virtualbox.. then add myself to the vbox user group and wahlah
[05:47] <cptnapalm> monte: or ignore me and do what chubs730 says :)
[05:48] <_Oz_> badkitty: what other reason could there be?  I mean it totally trashed my install
[05:48] <monte> lol its working
[05:48] <_Oz_> I am reinstalling from scratch right now on the computer that went down
[05:48] <monte> thx
[05:48] <Jordan_U> badkitty, xinit starts just X and xterm, no window manager now desktop environment ( you can't even move / resize the xterm window ), startx starts a gnome ( or whatever default DM ) session ( basically the same as xinit then running "gnome-session" ) "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start" starts the GDM login screen that you get when you boot normally
[05:48] <badkitty> _Oz_: And I have a ton of other stuff running too like compiz, avant window navigato, screenlets..
[05:48] <chubs730> monte: np
[05:48] <_Oz_> and it has been advised repeatedly that you should not use compiz and virtualbox...
[05:48] <_Oz_> well, you might have a "lucky" combination of compiz features running while vb is running
[05:48] <Munchkinguy> How can I stop mplayerplug.in from opening in its own window?
[05:49] <_Oz_> (what's navigato, btw?)
[05:49] <cptnapalm> monte: awesomeness :)  I remember the first time I trashed my apt... I was a sad person... and stupid... I tried to hand edit the apt stuff
[05:49] <gandhii> where are the icon files stored?          I'd like to change the icon for a link and am not sure where to look for other system icons.
[05:49] <badkitty> Jordan_U: Wow thanks.. I guess I should learn that one with gdm start
[05:49] <chubs730> ctnapalm: hand editing, slackware, the good old days
[05:49] <monte> lol thats funny
[05:49] <badkitty> Jordan_U: Than Again, I am still reliant of the GUI but I do alot of work in terminal windows
[05:50] <Jordan_U> badkitty, np
[05:50] <machrider> my question in general is: do ubuntu packages *have* options?
[05:50] <rainwalker> gandhii: check in your .themes folder in your home directory, in each theme's folder, or look in /usr/share/pixmaps
[05:50] <cptnapalm> chubs730: hand editing, clueless luser.... ;)
[05:50] <machrider> and how do you see what the options are?
[05:50] <BloodyScum> i know this is a stupid question, sence iv been useing ubuntu for years... but i just removed my trash can from my bar and i cant figure out how to put it back..
[05:51] <badkitty> _Oz_: Well I have desktop cube, cube reflection, all the task switchers, .. most the fun eyecandy stuff is enabled (except the ones that cause conflicts with lesser cool ones)
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[05:51] <BloodyScum> ok, almost a year i guess
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[05:51] <cptnapalm> chubs730: I really did try to go and hand edit that stuff... I still can't believe what a moronic idea that was heh
[05:51] <FloodBot3> dez: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:51] <chubs730> bloodyscum: right blick, add to panel
[05:51] <dez> --|_/---|--|---\_|----SIEG--HEIL-------/-/----/-/---
[05:51] <rainwalker> BloodyScum: right-click on the panel, click "add to panel" and re-add it
[05:51] <MasterShrek> !ops
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[05:51] <Scunizi> machrider, sometimes synaptic will recommend optional packages. but to answer you.. generally no.. options for a program are changed after install in the .conf file for that program.
[05:51] <Jordan_U> machrider, Yes, not nearly as extensive as those of Gentoo if that is what you are wondering, and not for all packages, but you can change them with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure <package>"
[05:51] <badkitty> BloodyScum: Did youtry right clicking and adding to panel
[05:51] <chubs730> cptnapalm: eh oh well, it's not really that moronic as long as you've got a manual with you
[05:51] <MasterShrek> nvm, forgot about the floodbots
[05:51] <badkitty> chubs730: You too quick
[05:51] <dez> mastershrek you need to chill
[05:51]  * cptnapalm thinks dez is a Bill gates fan...
[05:51] <acee1234> cptnapalm:  any luck?
[05:51] <machrider> Jordan_U: i'm coming from gentoo, so yes, that's what i was thinking.  i want to enable SSL for ircd-hybrid, but it doesn't look possible
[05:51] <MasterShrek> dez, you need to not flood
[05:52] <machrider> Jordan_U: i might just have to build it by hand.
[05:52] <cptnapalm> chubs730: Manual?  Manual?  What is this "manual" you speak of?  heh
[05:52] <BloodyScum> ok, thanks.. lol, i cant believe i didnt think of that....
[05:52] <cptnapalm> acee1234: Ah, was wondering where you went.  Ok, got that thing open?
[05:52] <acee1234> cptnapalm:  it is using restricted drivers and direct render returns yes
[05:52] <_Oz_> badkitty: it's ok, I don't mind reinstalling it all too much
[05:52] <acee1234> cptnapalm:  yes
[05:52] <_Oz_> it's THIS computer that I'm currently on that I've set up for productivity
[05:52] <devnull> hmm, i did a brief google search, but is anyone familiar with a linux irc program that implements a single window multiple pane mdi type interface similar to (dare i say it) mirc?
[05:52] <badkitty> _Oz_: Ok, maybe you can try qemu or vmware
[05:52] <cptnapalm> acee1234: so 3d is good to go just resolution silliness?
[05:52] <_Oz_> that computer has an XP/ubuntu dual boot and I don't really need ubuntu on it
[05:53] <LinuxMercedes> devnull: try xchat
[05:53] <badkitty> _Oz_: Although i cant believe yours got messed up.. You were running gutsy?
[05:53] <_Oz_> badkitty: I'll probably try virtualbox again just without the compiz
[05:53] <_Oz_> yes, gutsy
[05:53] <Jordan_U> machrider, It's not, that is a compile time option ( though you can grab and rebuild the source package with apt-get source , not as convenient as Gentoo but not too hard and better integrated than installing from a source tar file )
[05:53] <Scunizi> devnull, irssi, xchat, bitchx
[05:53] <chubs730> cptnapalm: hah yeah i remember when i first started on linux and after failing miserably at things decided it was time to "rtfm"
[05:53] <acee1234> cptnapalm: yes
[05:53] <badkitty> _Oz_: Did you reconfigure xorg and everything
[05:53] <devnull> i am using gnome-xchat, is it capable of anything other than the default tabbed interface?
[05:53] <machrider> Jordan_U: ok, i'll do that.  thanks.
[05:53] <MasterShrek> devnull, use regular xchat, not gnome-xchat
[05:53] <Jordan_U> machrider, np
[05:53] <cptnapalm> chubs730: Favorite sig of all time:  WWJD?  JWRTFM!
[05:53] <_Oz_> I just copied the backup xorg over the current xorg
[05:53] <devnull> i am wanting to be able to view all my channels at the same time
[05:53] <devnull> ok i will try that
[05:53] <_Oz_> and it was still bollocks
[05:54] <chubs730> cptnapalm: haha, i've never seen that
[05:54] <Scunizi> devnull, would you like to see multiple connections at once.. ?  irssi from the command line does it well.
[05:54] <j_humphrey> how do i use emerald to install themes?
[05:54] <devnull> dont really care about multiple connections, just multiple windows
[05:54] <devnull> err channels
[05:54] <cptnapalm> acee1234: ok, what we're going to try is to select generic from the list on the right
[05:54] <MasterShrek> devnull, right click on the channel tab or w/e and hit "Detach Tab"
[05:54] <Scunizi> devnull, that's actually what I ment..
[05:54] <chubs730> devnull: i'm using gnome-xchat with multiple channels right now
[05:54] <acee1234> cptnapalm: dont see generic option
[05:55] <chubs730> devnull: unless you mean different channels in different tabs
[05:55] <cptnapalm> acee1234: Ok, click where it says model
[05:55] <chubs730> devnull: they're on the left side
[05:55] <acee1234> cptnapalm:  ok
[05:55] <cptnapalm> acee1234: scroll up to the top on the left pane
[05:55] <Scunizi> devnull, for irssi.. it can be loaded sudo apt-get irssi then check out http://linuxreviews.org/software/irc/irssi/
[05:55] <devnull> different channels in different windows so to speak. able to see all individual channel conversations at the same time
[05:55] <MasterShrek> devnull, do what i told you, you can detach the tabs from xchat
[05:56] <devnull> and being the lazyass that i am, i am more interested in a graphical solution than a console one :)
[05:56] <chubs730> devnull: ahh, i see, no idea if it can do that, ignore me
[05:56] <cptnapalm> acee1234: top selection should be generic in bold
[05:56] <acee1234> cptnapalm: only generic listed is on the left screen but yes
[05:56] <MasterShrek> devnull, i dont know if gnome-xchat can, from what ive heard its kinda dumbed down, but regular xchat can
[05:56] <badkitty> _Oz_: Are you sure it copied it over? You didn't try to reconfigure
[05:56] <cptnapalm> acee1234: ok, click that.
[05:56] <acee1234> cptnapalm: ok
[05:56] <devnull> it looks like gnome-xchat cant, i will install the regular xchat
[05:56] <Scunizi> MasterShrek, after detaching how do you reattach?
[05:57] <cptnapalm> acee1234: now in the right window should start off with LCD panels
[05:57] <MasterShrek> Scunizi, no idea, i never do it heh
[05:57] <acee1234> cptnapalm:  yes
[05:57] <_Oz_> badkitty: yeah, I tried to reconfigure.  everything in ubuntu was majorly messed up.  I couldn't load any drivers...  video refused to get out of low res...  nothing worked.
[05:57] <cptnapalm> scroll down until you see LCD Panel 1680x1050
[05:57] <_Oz_> it was like an atom bomb going off in there, or something.
[05:57] <MasterShrek> Scunizi, xchat > attach window
[05:57] <acee1234> ok
[05:57] <_Oz_> it's ok, I'm over it.
[05:57] <badkitty> _Oz_: wow thats nuts man... when was the last reboot?
[05:58] <_Oz_> hmm...  15 mins ago maybe
[05:58] <devnull> next irc q, know of anything that can do blowfish encryption? :P
[05:58] <Scunizi> MasterShrek, ah I knew there was an easy answer!
[05:58] <_Oz_> I knew I was playing with fire with compiz, that's why I set it up on a computer that was nonessential
[05:58] <_Oz_> no big deal
[05:58] <badkitty> _Oz_: Strange, well anyhow I guess just don't run it while compiz is running..
[05:58] <cptnapalm> acee1234: scroll down until you see LCD Panel 1680x1050
[05:58] <Scunizi> devnull, http://www.usinglinux.org/irc/irssi-fish.html
[05:59] <badkitty> _Oz_: Haha .. I only had problems with it in edgy when I had to install the nvidia drivers manually
[05:59] <_Oz_> badkitty: really appreciate all of your help, that's one of the things that make ubuntu great, the ubuntu community
[05:59] <badkitty> _Oz_: For sure.. I learn so much just from gleaming what people say in this room
[06:00] <pocketdrummer> Is there a way to force your mouse's sample rate to stay at 500?
[06:00] <_Oz_> I need to start learning some command line basics
[06:00] <_Oz_> I'm really good at copying at pasting into the terminal window
[06:00] <Scunizi> devnull, once you learn about irssi then learn about screen.. can be really powerful stuff.
[06:00] <_Oz_> but I need to learn what the hell it all means
[06:00] <MasterShrek> !bash | _Oz_
[06:00] <ubotu> _Oz_: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[06:00] <cptnapalm> pocketdrummer: no clue... but I'm curious why that would be something you need to do
[06:00] <badkitty> _Oz_: Don't worry it will come with time trust me
[06:00] <MasterShrek> :)
[06:00] <devnull> oh i am quite familiar with screen and console apps :)
[06:00] <chubs730> oz: cd, ls, mkdir, renmov are all you need
[06:00] <chubs730> kinda
[06:01] <_Oz_> my biggest discomfort at this point comes from simply not understanding, exactly, the file structure
[06:01] <_Oz_> I don't understand where things go when they're installed
[06:01] <_Oz_> in windows, it's simple
[06:01] <devnull> i finally broke down and swapped my ati card for an nvidia card, so i am ready to make an attempt at using linux full time on the desktop
[06:01] <chubs730> /usr/bin
[06:01] <chubs730> :)
[06:01] <_Oz_> they go in c:/program files and some dlls get dumped into /windows
[06:01] <devnull> only game i really play is wow
[06:01] <cptnapalm> chubs730: Don't forget the learning by extreme pain example:  rm -R /  heh
[06:01] <Scunizi> _Oz_, sort of simple in windows..
[06:01] <_Oz_> in linux, I have no friggin' idea
[06:01] <MasterShrek> !fsh
[06:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fsh - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:01] <MasterShrek> hrm
[06:01] <_Oz_> and I don't really get the "package" concept either -- is it like a zip?
[06:01] <acee1235> cptnapalm: froze had to restart but works
[06:01] <crdlb> _Oz_: dpkg -L PACKAGE_NAME :)
[06:01] <chubs730> cptnapalm: hah yeah, don't fall into that trap oz
[06:02] <badkitty> _Oz_: Me neither haha ..yah package is similar to zip
[06:02] <cptnapalm> _Oz_: package is more like an installer
[06:02] <skwashd> hi all
[06:02] <MasterShrek> _Oz_, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
[06:02] <_Oz_> cptnapalm: yeah, I know what rm does :)
[06:02] <chubs730> oz: /usr/bin is where programs hang out when they're installed, as well as /usr/local/bin
[06:02] <_Oz_> ah
[06:02] <_Oz_> thank you, mastershrek
[06:02] <Scunizi> _Oz_, kinda like an .exe.. with variations..
[06:02] <pocketdrummer> cptnapalm: Well, G7 mouse changes it from 500 to 150 all by itself in both windows and linux (somehow). So, the cursor hops all over the screen. I'm negotiating with Logitech about them sending me a _Different_ mouse, but they're making it hard.
[06:02] <acee1235> cptnapalm:  thank you
[06:02] <badkitty> _Oz_: Yah its an installable archive basically.. a tarball is most similiar to a zip i would think
[06:02] <skwashd> i have a ASUS M3A mother board with 2G RAM, Athlon 4800+, 320G HDD, mythbuntu installed
[06:02] <cptnapalm> _Oz_: no one can every be *nix guru without having wiped out their OS with rm at least once :)
[06:02] <devnull> oh yeah, twinview = roxors :P
[06:03] <skwashd> everytime i reboot it, the MAC address changes
[06:03] <mkbernard> 0
[06:03] <monte> um someone gave me a website link about unbuntu restricted extras
[06:03] <cptnapalm> acee1235: so alls well in 1680x1050?
[06:03] <_Oz_> badkitty: like a self-executing zip (.exe) that's compressed into a single file?
[06:03] <badkitty> monte: probably me
[06:03] <MasterShrek> skwashd, sounds like a bios setting maybe, is it totally random which mac address?
[06:03] <crdlb> _Oz_: it's not self-executing
[06:03] <monte> can u give me that link again
[06:03] <acee1235> cptnapalm:  yes
[06:03] <chubs730> oz, cptnapalm: or installing debian twice because "it didn't work", because you were too lazy to check the website and find out what startx was
[06:03] <pocketdrummer> skwashd: That's really odd, I didn't think MAC addresses ever changed.
[06:04] <acee1235> cptnapalm: everything is tiny on my 15" screen
[06:04] <cptnapalm> acee1235: Awesome :)
[06:04] <acee1235> indeed
[06:04] <skwashd> MasterShrek: that's what i thought ... checked it ... the only LAN options are "use boot rom" (disabled) and "smart mac" (auto - oither option disabled the nic)
[06:04] <Scunizi> monte, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[06:04] <HeLeN22> hi
[06:04] <_Oz_> startx? what's that?
[06:04] <_Oz_> and how could it have helped me?
[06:04] <skwashd> pocketdrummer: you can hack it .. but normally it shouldn't change
[06:04] <monte> scunizi: thanks
[06:05] <cptnapalm> chubs730: Man I remember starting with Red Hat 4.something and trying to get X working.... had the case open on its side with a flashlight trying to read chipset numbers heh
[06:05] <MasterShrek> skwashd, very weird, never heard of such a thing
[06:05] <chubs730> oz: i wouldn't worry about it, but if you ever use something like slackware or debian, it boots to a command line by default
[06:05] <badkitty> _Oz_: Well a package is really what the name implies and you tell the computer what to do with it: sudo (super user do) apt-get (aptitude is the package manager) install (this is what to do with this package) virtualbox
[06:05] <ubuntulover> Guys, what means "start application in terminal"??? How can i emulate this way in script?
[06:05] <cptnapalm> acee1235: on 15" I'm thinking 1440x900 might be a better bet
[06:05] <chubs730> oz: startx starts the x server, the graphical side
[06:05] <_Oz_> ctnapalm: yep, that's what scared me away from linux for a long time, but with ubuntu, users like me are being brought into the fold
[06:05] <skwashd> MasterShrek: ubuntu is loading the wrong driver for it too ... from what i have been able to dig up
[06:05] <crdlb> badkitty: don't you mean "apt-get is the package manager"? :)
[06:05] <_Oz_> ahh
[06:05] <skwashd> it should be using the atl1 driver ... not forcedeth (nvidia)
[06:06] <_Oz_> so to install, it's always apt-get install filename
[06:06] <rainwalker> ubuntulover: start the application from a terminal, applications > accessories > terminal
[06:06] <badkitty> crdlb: Did i miss the get?
[06:06] <_Oz_> I wondered why "install xyz" never worked
[06:06] <MasterShrek> skwashd, try blacklisting forcedeth  maybe?
[06:06] <MasterShrek> !blacklist | skwashd
[06:06] <crdlb> badkitty: you said apt-get, then aptitude in the explanation :)
[06:06] <ubotu> skwashd: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »
[06:06] <Dr_willis> ibnstall is a different command. :)
[06:06] <acee1235> cptnapalm: i like things small i still have issues with restart x freezing my computer showing only the background
[06:06] <crdlb> _Oz_: not exactly, apt-get installs from repositories, dpkg is the raw package manager
[06:06] <badkitty> crdlb: aptitude is the package manager.. apt-get is how you reference it i guess.. you can also use aptitude in a terminal
[06:06] <skwashd> MasterShrek: about to try that :)
[06:06] <crdlb> which is capable of installing a .deb files
[06:06] <_Oz_> ... oh
[06:07] <_Oz_> how does apt-get know where to find the repository
[06:07] <crdlb> badkitty: they're separate apps, similar, but not identical
[06:07] <blett> hi,all
[06:07] <Dr_willis> ubuntu Elven Magic!
[06:07] <devnull> hmm, whats the best alternative to konfabulator / yahoo widgets nowadays, still gkrellm or is there something better?
[06:07] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:07] <ubuntulover> rainwalker: Now, i mean, i whant to bind start "python" in .xbindkeysrc, but i can't, cuz python should be started in terminal. So, how can i write it in script?
[06:07] <chubs730> oz: text configuration files on your computer
[06:07] <cptnapalm> _Oz_: Canonical and the Knoppix guys particularly really have made a world of difference in that regard.  One thing I do sort of miss is the kind of bonding that went on with the machine from knowing it so well... Hell, I still remember what I called that machine I build over a decade ago.... Tankgirl :)
[06:07] <crdlb> _Oz_: /etc/apt/sources.list plus a cache it makes when you sudo apt-get update
[06:07] <badkitty> crdlb: Oh .. IC
[06:07] <sp219> Is there any way to kill "gdmgreeter" (and everything involving a GUI/X For that matter, including gdm/X itself) so it doesn't restart again automatically?
[06:07] <cptnapalm> acee1235: Ok, that might be an ATI driver problem
[06:07] <rainwalker> ubuntulover: hmm...I'm not sure, but I'm not the best with scripts
[06:07] <_Oz_> and how is it retrieving them?  ftp?
[06:07] <_Oz_> I see, crdlb.
[06:07] <crdlb> _Oz_: or http, depends on the mirror
[06:08] <ubuntulover> rainwalker: It's even not about scripts. Try to start "python" in "Alt+F2" - same thing.
[06:08] <acee1235> cptnapalm: so i basically need to rip my gpu out and find a way to put a nvidia gpu in my laptop
[06:08] <badkitty> crdlb: but you can still type sudo aptitude install xxx cant you? So is apt-get a shortcut or a seperate command alltogether?
[06:08] <rainwalker> ubuntulover: you mean, nothing happens?
[06:08] <sp219> Is there any way to kill "gdmgreeter" (and everything involving a GUI/X For that matter, including gdm/X itself) so it doesn't restart again automatically?
[06:09] <MasterShrek> sp219, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:09] <_Oz_> those text files which are updated when apt-get updates are kinda like nameservers in a way then, eh?
[06:09] <crdlb> badkitty: it's a separate command; aptitude was intended as a more powerful replacement for apt-get, but apt-get has implemented some of those features recently.
[06:09] <ubuntulover> rainwalker:  yep. Maybe, something happends! (:  But there is no python interpreter on the screen.
[06:09] <cptnapalm> acee1235:  If that is even possible :(  ATI can be awkward... Some machines they run like absolute champs.  Others, like a couple of desktops I tried Ubuntu on, they crash the kernel after trying to switch to console or, god forbid! log out
[06:09] <rainwalker> what does control + alt + F4 do? last time I tried it I think it killed my X completely...so I'm afraid to try again
[06:09] <crdlb> badkitty: compare apt-get --help and aptitude --help
[06:10] <sp219> MasterShrek: perfect, thanks!
[06:10] <acee1235> cptnapalm: yep mine does the latter
[06:10] <devnull> i never could get stuff working right with my ati card
[06:10] <rainwalker> ubuntulover: I think you have to run a python script with python, I don't think there's an actual python GUI that's supposed to come up
[06:10] <devnull> so i got an nvidia one lol
[06:10] <Dr_willis> rainwalker,  that goes to console #4 - use alt-ctrl-F7 to get back to X
[06:10] <cptnapalm> rainwalker: that should just switch you to virtual terminal 4
[06:10] <Dr_willis> !console
[06:10] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[06:10] <ubuntulover> rainwalker:  You should just press  Ctrl+Alt+F7! (:
[06:10] <rainwalker> Dr_willis: wow that would have been nice to know at the time...
[06:10] <badkitty> crdlb: Yah I'll look into the differences one of these days
[06:10] <cptnapalm> acee1235: welcome to the misery of being an ATI user :(
[06:10] <Dr_willis> rainwalker,  it pays to read up on Linux fundamentals. :)
[06:10] <rainwalker> guess o
[06:10] <crdlb> rainwalker: are you using compiz?
[06:10] <rainwalker> so*
[06:10] <rainwalker> crdlb: yes
[06:10] <Dr_willis> thats been a linux feature for.... ever.. :) i think.. heh
[06:10] <acee1235> cptnapalm: tis a temporary state i assure you
[06:11] <ubuntulover> So, can someone helps me?
[06:11] <rainwalker> I was messing with key bindings for compiz stuff and set that as one...haha scared the crap out of me
[06:11] <crdlb> rainwalker: some drivers have broken vt-switching while using compiz, so when you switch to a terminal, you can't switch back to X :/
[06:11] <ubuntulover> Developers, developers, developers!!!
[06:11] <ubuntulover> (:
[06:11] <acee1235> cptnapalm: im thinking a nice termite experiment is in order
[06:11] <acee1235> thermite
[06:11] <monte> scunizi: i installed the restricted extras and wat do i do after that
[06:11] <cptnapalm> acee1235: as it was with me... I bought my new desktop, and the first thing I did upon arriving home was to burn an Ubuntu disk, rip out the ATI card,slap in an nvidia, wipe out windows and install Linux
[06:11] <skwashd> MasterShrek: i love it when the vendor's website spec doesn't match what is in the box
[06:12] <rainwalker> crdlb: well I didn't know control alt F7 would bring me back, I just thought I'd broken something
[06:12] <badkitty> _Oz_: To my knowledge, your sources hold files that reference the packages that are within their control, so when you update your sources, you are in essence downloading a compiled list of the packages that are on each source, therefore when you invoke a command such as apt-get install, it can reference the package name with the source and proceed to download and install, etc
[06:12] <rainwalker> the open ATI driver works fine for me...
[06:12] <crdlb> rainwalker: just something to keep in mind if it doesn't work :)
[06:12] <ubuntulover> " rainwalker: the open ATI driver works fine for me..."  With 3D???
[06:12] <acee1235> ii wonder if insurance would cover that...
[06:12] <cptnapalm> Oh, to everyone who likes using the command line:  Buy a Sun Keyboard.  The Control key is where the Caps lock key normally is.  Makes life much better.
[06:13] <sigma> is the original WINE program the best available, or would anyone recommend something else?
[06:13] <_Oz_> it's a very clever, robust, and efficient system, badkitty.
[06:13] <rainwalker> ubuntulover: yes, as far as I can tell
[06:13] <mrchicago> hello all
[06:13] <razordead> devnull: the latest Linux widget stuff I've heard about is gDesklets & screenlets
[06:13] <badkitty> Oh No! I found one of those Rotten Jelly Bellies in my bag! I've been poisoned!
[06:13] <MasterShrek> sigma, wine is about the best
[06:13] <_Oz_> sigma: yeah, WINE is still the best.
[06:13] <crdlb> rainwalker: ooh, you should be fine then, the radeon driver has perfect vt-switching afaik :)
[06:13] <fignew_> cptnapalm: wrong... it makes life hell
[06:13] <mrchicago> how is it going
[06:13] <sigma> thanks
[06:13] <chubs730> cptnapalm: that sounds quite awesome
[06:13] <cptnapalm> fignew_: How?!?!?
[06:13] <Dr_willis> Theres guides on swiching the caps lock and ctrl keys. :)
[06:13] <chubs730> cptnapalm: though you could always just trade keys and remap
[06:13] <badkitty> _Oz_: Indeed; not to mention convenient as all heck
[06:13] <sigma> one more thing... I have no control over my bluetooth module in linux, only in windows. My bluetooth mouse works, but linux believes there is no adapter present. any ideas?
[06:14] <ubuntulover> Guys, what tine is on your clocks??? (:
[06:14] <ubuntulover> It's very interesting.
[06:14] <cptnapalm> chubs730: and miss the opportunity to have even more crap?  Perish the thought!
[06:14] <ubuntulover> *TIME
[06:14] <MisterMom> you should see my home made keyboard
[06:14] <_Oz_> it's so superior to M$' nonsense,.
[06:14] <_Oz_> I have to say, I am simply blown away by ubuntu.
[06:14] <fignew_> cptnapalm: I do wanna get a Sun Keyboard from work just so I can give "props" :D
[06:14] <_Oz_> Here, for free, is a program which knocks microsoft and their billions on their ass.
[06:14] <rainwalker> my clock keeps turning an hour back...
[06:14] <MisterMom> i rearanged the keys myself
[06:14] <cptnapalm> fignew_: I got one off eBay for like $5
[06:14] <_Oz_> it's powerful!  it's a better OS.  not some cheap little "cute" OS which is what I was expecting.  I am just so impressed by the whole experience.
[06:14] <chubs730> cptnapalm: yeah i can't say i don't want one, i'm guilty of of having bought a flexible keyboard off of ebay
[06:14] <fignew_> did it have PS2?
[06:15] <badkitty> _Oz_: It's not just ubuntu, but the whole open source deal.. other linux distros offer the same type of package management systems
[06:15] <cptnapalm> fignew_: USB
[06:15] <_Oz_> badkitty: yeah. ubuntu, to me, is the gateway which made the world of linux possible and then attractive to me.
[06:15] <rainwalker> _Oz_: welcome to ubuntu
[06:15] <fignew_> ahh... newer style, we have a bunch of those at work too :/
[06:15] <raxso> #ubuntu-ph
[06:15] <_Oz_> I had friends who were linuxheads back in the day.
[06:15] <chubs730> badkitty: having used most, I think ubuntu's works the best
[06:15] <theAtom> Im runnung Ubuntu from my D: drive. But Windows from C:. But C: has dissapeared!  How I make it appear?
[06:15] <_Oz_> I watched 'em try to install redhat from the command line and said, "Yep...  not for me."
[06:15] <chubs730> though that may be an rpm vs deb thing really
[06:16] <sigma> theAtom: huh?
[06:16] <rainwalker> theAtom: you mean a live cd?
[06:16] <_Oz_> Not that there was anything wrong with that, of course.  I just knew it was not a good fit for me at that time.
[06:16] <theAtom> sigma, plz listen this time
[06:16] <badkitty> _Oz_: Me too.. I guess if I started with say fedora I may like it better but I have tried others and I too like ubuntu the best so far
[06:16] <_Oz_> Now, with ubuntu, idiots like me can join your formerly exclusive "brainy only" parties.
[06:16] <mrchicago> use alien for rpms
[06:16] <theAtom> my MS Windows boots from C:.  but it seems C: is gone and wont boot Windows.  What Can I do?
[06:16] <badkitty> Eww jalapeno jelly belly wth
[06:16] <symlink> ubotu nvidia
[06:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:16] <nickrud_> alien is evil
[06:16] <cptnapalm> _Oz_: I'm one of those people who had a 386 and HATED windows 3 :)  I liked my DOS that did what I told it to.
[06:16] <theAtom> how do I activate or mount C:?
[06:16] <acee1235> is there an equalizer for the alsa mixer?
[06:16] <CVD-PR> its so dificult to play propietary things in fedora
[06:16] <j_humphrey> !beryl
[06:16] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[06:17] <_Oz_> cptnapalm: heh! I hated 3.1 when it came out, too.
[06:17] <j_humphrey> !compiz
[06:17] <cptnapalm> theAtom: you want to mount it in linux
[06:17] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[06:17] <_Oz_> but I quickly got used to it.
[06:17] <nickrud_> sigma: when you say D: has disappeared, do you mean you can't boot it? or you can't see it's contents from buntu?
[06:17] <_Oz_> I was the master of DOS, back in the day.
[06:17] <chubs730> cptnapalm: the only thing i could do in DOS was run doom, since i was 6 years old, but i loved it
[06:17] <theAtom> cptnapalm, but I dont even see it anymore.  do I mount it?
[06:17] <badkitty> cptnapalm: I hated windows 3.1 too but everything was so much easier.. Although alot of my oldshool softwares beat the crap out of ms stuff.
[06:17] <_Oz_> ahhhh doom
[06:17] <sigma> nickrud_: not me man
[06:17] <badkitty> Funny story I ran in to the guy who made the BBS software iniquity a few weeks ago...
[06:17] <_Oz_> when I first played it, it was like a loud gong going off in my head
[06:17] <nickrud_> sigma: doh
[06:17] <_Oz_> I couldn't believe it
[06:18] <_Oz_> I called my friend eric who came over immediately
[06:18] <nickrud_> sigma: but it looks like someone else has it anyway
[06:18] <sigma> theAtom: try in command line:  mount /dev/sda1 /windows
[06:18] <CVD-PR> like ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:18] <Dr_willis> !windows
[06:18] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[06:18] <theAtom> my C: has dissapeared. It no longer boots windows and I cannot see it in Ubuntu. WHat can I do plz?
[06:18] <_Oz_> he thought I was going to show him a game like "castle wolfenstein" for the old Apple ][ which we both enjoyed
[06:18] <acee1235> DOS: zork, ultima, duke nukem
[06:18] <cptnapalm> theAtom: I'm trying to figure out if you want to mount it in Linux.
[06:18] <Dr_willis> hmm thats not it.
[06:18] <Dr_willis> !mount
[06:18] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[06:18] <_Oz_> instead, here was a true full-blown 3D game!  We were thrilled
[06:18] <skwashd> MasterShrek: found the answer ... http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=79306 ... dodgy MAC
[06:18] <_Oz_> Zork!  I loved zork.  Loooooved Zork.
[06:18] <rainwalker> why is it that when I synced my comp's clock with the servers it lists in texas (where I am), it set it an hour earlier than it should be?
[06:18] <theAtom> sigma, fuse: failed to access mountpoint /windows: No such file or directory
[06:18] <theAtom> FUSE mount point creation failed
[06:18] <theAtom> Unmounting /dev/sda1 (VistaOS)
[06:19] <fantum13> I'm having DHCP issues with my AR5007EG on ndiswrapper (Gutsy amd64 with a 64 bit windows driver). I know the driver and card are functional, because if I can chain reboot enough for, than it'll work, but otherwise, I'm fscked. Does anyone have experience with this?
[06:19] <chubs730> oregon trail!
[06:19] <_Oz_> oh, that reminds me -- restricted extras -- what's the thing I do to get essentially what automatix would give me, but without the headaches?
[06:19] <badkitty> Oregon trail ftw!
[06:19] <GradeFPoultry> I loved oregon trail
[06:19] <sigma> theAtom: heh, then run mkdir /windows and try again
[06:19] <Dr_willis> theAtom,  like the message said.. /windows does not exist. :)
[06:19] <rainwalker> _Oz_: applications > add/remove
[06:19] <badkitty> _Oz_: PM me
[06:19] <_Oz_> chubs: oh, now you're gonna make me fall out of my chair.  I KICKED MY ENTIRE CLASS' BUTT in oregon trail!
[06:19] <theAtom> Dr_willis, what can I DO?
[06:19] <_Oz_> How about Lemonade Stand?
[06:19] <sigma> theAtom: just make sure you sudo it
[06:19] <j_humphrey> how do i get the expose type look?
[06:19] <Dr_willis> theAtom,  make the directory....
[06:19] <skwashd> time to hack udev
[06:19] <GradeFPoultry> What would you guys say is the best Linux distro for old, slow PC's?
[06:19] <sigma> j_humphrey: you need compiz enabled
[06:20] <j_humphrey> sigma, i have it enabled
[06:20] <rainwalker> j_humphrey: you have to enable the expose plugin
[06:20] <nickrud_> j_humphrey: in ccsm, enable exp and use super-e to view it
[06:20] <_Oz_> gradeFPoultry: Kubuntu
[06:20] <badkitty> I was more into BBS's but DOOM ][ was my bag .. oregon trail was dope but I wasn't that good.. but LORD I was a master at
[06:20] <chubs730> oz: oregon trail made me wish that every computer game ended in dysentery
[06:20] <nickrud_> j_humphrey: expo that is
[06:20] <sigma> j_humphrey: install compiz extras, and you can set it up in there, look for the Scale plugin
[06:20] <ac1dfr33z3> hi room
[06:20] <_Oz_> how old, and how slow, poultry?
[06:20] <_Oz_> chubs: heheheheheh
[06:20] <CVD-PR> its not the distro is the desktop-manager GradeFPoultry
[06:20] <ac1dfr33z3> i have a question????
[06:20] <rainwalker> j_humphrey: install the package "compizconfig-settings-manager"
[06:20] <Dr_willis> GradeFPoultry,  for very low end machines.. Puppy Linux or DSL. :) ubutu can run on rather low end box's however.
[06:20] <Dr_willis> GradeFPoultry,  how Low end is low end. :)
[06:20] <GradeFPoultry> _Oz_: Can't say for sure, 256MB ram...about ten years old.
[06:20] <ac1dfr33z3> can anyone tell me how to get java????????
[06:21] <_Oz_> yeah, kubuntu, then.
[06:21] <cptnapalm> GradeFPoultry: Damn Small Linux?
[06:21] <_Oz_> is it a 486?
[06:21] <Dr_willis> ac1dfr33z3,  install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package - is one way
[06:21] <badkitty> !jave ac1dfr33z3
[06:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jave ac1dfr33z3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:21] <CVD-PR> add/remove java ac1dfr33z3
[06:21] <LinuxMercedes> Hey, I've got Ubuntu 7.10 on a 256 MB machine!
[06:21] <GradeFPoultry> _Oz_: I think so.
[06:21] <badkitty> !java | ac1dfr33z3
[06:21] <ubotu> ac1dfr33z3: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[06:21] <chubs730> gradefpoultry: 256mb ram is so not old! kinda. xubuntu will fly
[06:21] <rainwalker> ac1dfr33z3: install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[06:21] <_Oz_> linuxmercedes: does it run OK?
[06:21] <ac1dfr33z3> ok
[06:21] <ac1dfr33z3> *java
[06:21] <badkitty> restricted extras does have it doesn't it
[06:22] <_Oz_> I'm running ubuntu on an old p4 (512mb) which is about 5 years old and it runs perfectly fine.
[06:22] <ac1dfr33z3> thanxz
[06:22] <GradeFPoultry> I don't regularly use that computer, I just want to boot a Linux OS from disk while I'm there so I'm not so miserable.
[06:22] <LinuxMercedes> _Oz_: yup, runs fine so far =]
[06:22] <GradeFPoultry> Okay, I'll look at the ones everyone mentioned.
[06:22] <cptnapalm> Wow, I forgot how "Where the hell did the last two hours of my life go" when I'm on IRC, which I haven't really used since I hung out on #quake on EFnet
[06:22] <badkitty> GradeFPoultry: It will run faster if you install it though
[06:22] <chubs730> gradefpoultry: oh then go for slax or dsl i'd say
[06:22] <mrchicago> are there still problems importing .doc files into openoffice
[06:22] <LinuxMercedes> _Oz_: what's funny is that I had trouble with 6.06
[06:22] <GradeFPoultry> badkitty: Oh, good point >_>
[06:22] <nickrud_>  Badger apt-cache depends ubuntu-restricted-extras , my 64bit has the jre , I'd assume the 32bit has the plugin
[06:22] <_Oz_> poultry: I think your best combo of fun and speed would come from kubuntu
[06:23] <chubs730> gradefpoultry: don't bother using the ubuntus purely as livecd's
[06:23] <rainwalker> mrchicago: occasionally formatting doesn't work right, but for the most part it's fine
[06:23] <Dr_willis> mrchicago,  depends on the complexity of the .doc file i hear.
[06:23] <nickrud_> tab completion is killing me tonight
[06:23] <badkitty> nickrud_: Too many similar names?
[06:23] <mrchicago> hmm
[06:23] <nickrud_> badkitty: lack of attention
[06:23] <GradeFPoultry> Ok.
[06:23] <badkitty> nickrud_: I see
[06:23] <CVD-PR> why someine one to use a 64bit os? 32is still the dominant
[06:23] <mrchicago> i remember when i first used it few years ago it had issues with tabs and spaces
[06:23] <_Oz_> hey, I have sort of an oddball question
[06:23] <nickrud_> badkitty: i've been doing this too long to let too many names get in my way ;)
[06:24] <mrchicago> between paragraphs
[06:24] <GradeFPoultry> I use 64 bit.
[06:24] <badkitty> CVD-PR: They want to learn to debug????
[06:24] <cptnapalm> CVD-PR: because we can :)
[06:24] <_Oz_> is there a way to get "universal bookmarks" in firefox in ALL computers you might use?  some sort of plugin?
[06:24] <_Oz_> I have so many computers and I don't have the same bookmarks in all of them.
[06:24] <Dr_willis> _Oz_,  i use the google browser sync extension for that.
[06:24] <CVD-PR> but then "there any 64 version" etc...
[06:24] <nickrud_> _Oz_: del.icio.us for me
[06:24] <blett> hi,all
[06:24] <_Oz_> Dr_willis: what's that?
[06:24] <mrchicago> i know that when you install firefox itll ask you ti import ie bookmarks
 hi
 <lewix> I just installed linux mint but I add to install it with linux safe graphical mode, because the mode by default didnt work
 <lewix> now that it's installed the GUI won't work
 <lewix> when I boot up
[06:24] <cptnapalm> badkitty: Hell I compile my hello, world programs with maximum optimization and in 64 bit heh
[06:24] <GradeFPoultry> Having 64 bit gave me a shitload of problems...
[06:24] <badkitty> I should give 64-bit Another go though.. Its been since before edgy even
[06:24] <_Oz_> I've always wondered what the hell del.icio.us was
[06:24] <GradeFPoultry> When trying to first installed Linux
[06:24] <Dr_willis> _Oz_,  a extension that does just what you asked. :)
[06:25] <chubs730> cvd-pr: 64 bit versions are a bit faster for 64 bit processors, and allows you to use more RAM
[06:25] <GradeFPoultry> install*
[06:25] <badkitty> cptnapalm: haha
[06:25] <nickrud_> lewix: we don't do support for linux mint here ...
[06:25] <_Oz_> I'm googling for it now, Dr_willis.  If it is in fact what I seek...  I will be appreciative.
[06:25] <lewix> nickrud_: it's based on ubuntu and they dont have a channel
[06:25] <mouseboyx> Hello, my ubuntu server edition is set to dhcp, yet it does not connect to the network any ideas?
[06:25] <Dr_willis> _Oz_,  theres other alternatives to it also.
[06:25] <cptnapalm> badkitty: Always use overkill.   Always.
[06:25] <witepa> Hi, I just installed gutsy and I need help installing drivers for my wireless card.. I am using Madwifi... but when i try to do ifconfig ath0 down and wifi0 down I get the message "ERROR while getting interface flags, no such device"
[06:25] <chubs730> lewix: try startx from the terminal
[06:25] <j_humphrey> can i do a expose cube thingy?
[06:25] <chubs730> lewix: if that's what it boots you to
[06:26] <fantum13> CVD-PR: Our computers will still function after 2038.
[06:26] <_Oz_> Dr_willis: that is precisely what I wanted!
[06:26] <CVD-PR> but not all things are in 64bit, i have a AMD64 but never gonna use a 64bit,
[06:26] <_Oz_> and it's from google, which is always good.
[06:26] <lewix> chubs730: it wont work
[06:26] <CVD-PR> os
[06:26] <chubs730> lewix: hmm, any error message?
[06:26] <Dr_willis> lewix,  reconfigure your X server, install proper drivers for your video card.. is the basic things to check first.
[06:26] <mouseboyx> Hello?, can someone help with a dhcp server problem?
[06:26] <fantum13> CVD-PR: Then your computer is a ticking bomb. Enjoy watching the time_t's wrap around.
[06:26] <j_humphrey> how do i get this enabled: http://www.beryl-project.org/images/cube_full.jpg
[06:26] <lewix> Dr_willis: how? im on windows right now...what should I check
[06:26] <chubs730> cvd-pr: there are very few programs not in 64 bit, and if they aren't you can always compile them yourself
[06:27] <mrchicago> i dont have too many issues with my video card
[06:27] <CVD-PR> compile :-(
[06:27] <chubs730> cvd-pr: the only real annoyance is java (grr!)
[06:27] <nickrud_> j_humphrey: what video card are you using?  lspci | grep -i vga will tell you
[06:27] <rainwalker> j_humphrey: install the package "compizconfig-settings-manager" and enable the desktop cube
[06:27] <j_humphrey> its an ati x1400
[06:27] <Dr_willis> lewix,  check the !nvidia and !fixres bot factoies urls.
[06:27] <chubs730> cvd-pr: you'll rarely have to compile, 32 bit versions run fine with 32 bit libraries
[06:27] <cptnapalm> CVD-PR: Compiling most stuff is really pretty easy.  If the stuff is sane at all just have to use 3 commands and it will be installed
[06:27] <j_humphrey> i have desktop cube, but it doesn't look like that picture
[06:27] <CVD-PR> its so difficult to code from 32 to 64?
[06:27] <Dr_willis> lewix,  there is a Mint support irc channel on some other chennel. Check the Mint web site.
[06:27] <acee1235> ij_humphrey:  i feel your pain x1400....
[06:27] <d3ads0ul> can someone around please help me with burning dvds
[06:28] <rainwalker> j_humphrey: oh, well what do you want it to look like?
[06:28] <CVD-PR> i already compiled  some stuff
[06:28] <j_humphrey> http://www.beryl-project.org/images/cube_full.jpg rainwalker
[06:28] <d3ads0ul> or tell me where i can go for help, ive googled and found nothing
[06:28] <nickrud_> j_humphrey:   system->admin->restricted manager , install the ati driver and reboot.  run    fglrxinfo  in the terminal, make sure it says you're using the ati 8.37.6 driver.  Install xserver-xgl compizconfig-settings-manager , and log out and back in
[06:28] <Dr_willis> d3ads0ul,  you mean creating VIDEO dvds or making DATA dvd's ?
[06:28] <rainwalker> j_humphrey: I saw that, but what is it about that picture that you want?
[06:28] <fantum13> CVD-PR: x86_64 is fully backward compatible. You can run most ia32 binaries on it.
[06:28] <badkitty> If I compile a new kernel other than the generic one, will it make a difference?
[06:28] <d3ads0ul> burning a video .iso
[06:28] <pocketdrummer> I've tried to get the cube working too, even with it enabled, it doesn't make a cube.
[06:28] <mouseboyx> Hello?, can someone help with a dhcp server problem?
[06:28] <mooseman447> hey
[06:28] <GradeFPoultry> d3ads0ul: What's the problem?
[06:28] <pocketdrummer> maybe, I'm using the wrong key combination?
[06:28] <rainwalker> pocketdrummer: what do you mean?
[06:28] <cptnapalm> j_humphrey: problem is quite possibly the card.... using the ATI drivers may result in crashing your machine.  Just so you know what may happen.
[06:29] <GradeFPoultry> d3ads0ul: Actually, ignore me, I don't even know what I'm doing on Ubuntu yet >_<
[06:29] <d3ads0ul> wont burn, says input-output error
[06:29] <mooseman447> i have a raid 0 setup and i just upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10 and now i get /dev/md0 does not exist dropping to a shell
[06:29] <pocketdrummer> rainwalker, it just flips. no cube :-/
[06:29] <GradeFPoultry> d3ads0ul: I'll try to find something on google.
[06:29] <nickrud_> cptnapalm: not really, been using the ati for a while now and helping quite a few chipset versions
[06:29] <rainwalker> pocketdrummer: what key combo are you useing?
[06:29] <Dr_willis> pocketdrummer,  you n eed to have 4 virtual desktops enabled for the full cube effect.
[06:29] <Ashnal> so i installed dosbox from the repository and have no clue where its configuration files are....
[06:29] <rainwalker> using*
[06:29] <j_humphrey> I want the actual cube, it looks like the picture is a cube in expose, but when i activate the cube, it just flips the screen, rainwalker
[06:29] <_Oz_> j_humphrey: I have the answer to your problem
[06:29] <d3ads0ul> ive been all over google, see a lot of people with problems, but not the same as mine
[06:29] <Dr_willis> Ashnal,  read the dosbox docs/manpages. it can read them from different places.
[06:29] <LinuxMercedes> j_humphrey: how many desktops do you have?
[06:30] <rainwalker> j_humphrey: what key combo are you using?
[06:30] <_Oz_> because I just solved it myself today :)
[06:30] <acee1235> j_humphrey:  you have x1400 correct and does your video playback flicker?
[06:30] <Dr_willis> Ashnal,  i make a seperate config in each dos prograsm directory for my dosbox needs.
[06:30] <j_humphrey> _Oz_ how?
[06:30] <chubs730> d3ads0ul: if it's just an .iso, burn it with k3b or any other burning program
[06:30] <badkitty> j_humphrey: Its because you only have it set for 2 desktops (2 sides) you need 4 (cube)
[06:30] <GradeFPoultry> d3ads0ul: Check out this thread: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cdrkit/+bug/15424
[06:30] <nickrud_> pocketdrummer, j_humphrey ccsm , the rotate cube option, increase the zoom. Then, hold down the middle mouse button and move the mouse
[06:30] <j_humphrey> acee1235, i just installed the OS today, and installed all the new drivers
[06:30] <_Oz_> j_humphrey: go into compiz config
[06:30] <d3ads0ul> this is the error i get Executing 'builtin_dd if=/dev/fd/0 of=/dev/scd1 obs=32k seek=0'
[06:30] <d3ads0ul> /dev/scd1: "Current Write Speed" is 1.0x1352KBps.
[06:30] <d3ads0ul> :-( unable to WRITE@LBA=0h: Input/output error
[06:30] <d3ads0ul> :-( write failed: Input/output error
[06:30] <cptnapalm> nickrud_: Just bought a new machine.  Had an ATI.  Crashed the same way another card did.  Swapping out to nvidia helped.  They are pretty hit or miss and some have had problems with the X1400
[06:30] <_Oz_> choose "general options"
[06:30] <j_humphrey> badkitty, i have 4 desktops
[06:31] <d3ads0ul> but it doesnt toast my dvd-rs
[06:31] <j_humphrey> _oz_ im there
[06:31] <rainwalker> !paste | d3ads0ul
[06:31] <ubotu> d3ads0ul: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:31] <badkitty> j_humphrey: Your sure? You have to check within ccsm (compiz settings manager)
[06:31] <_Oz_> look under "desktops" or "video" or something like that where you can set the number of horizontal and vertical desktops
[06:31] <pocketdrummer> rainwalker, ctrl+alt+ Left/right key. Is that right?
[06:31] <nickrud_> cptnapalm: hm, I've helped a couple set that up. The only issue I heard was bad video playback, they had to use the x11 output plugin
[06:31] <_Oz_> set horiz to 4, vertical to 2
[06:31] <badkitty> j_humphrey: The default setting within compiz is 2 even though w/o compiz on you have 4
[06:31] <acee1235> j_humphrey:  if you get it to work and the video not to glitch i would be interested how you did it
[06:31] <rainwalker> pocketdrummer: for the cube, you need control + alt + click
[06:31] <acee1235> j_humphrey: i cant get mine working
[06:31] <devnull> damn, it seems gdesklets has been abandoned
[06:31] <mooseman447> does anybody know why i get a /dev/md0 does not exist error after upgrading to 7.10
[06:32] <ubd> how can i check if ubunutu makes cpu sclaing right_
[06:32] <rainwalker> devnull: screenlets > gdesklets
[06:32] <CVD-PR> any know why when i try do go in text mode nothing happen?
[06:32] <ubd> scaling
[06:32] <j_humphrey> acee1235, ah, i think it will glicth
[06:32] <cptnapalm> nickrud_: I, and acee1235 here, had hard crashes when doing anything that switched video mode at all: switch to console or... gasp... trying to logout
[06:32] <devnull> yeah? i will look into that
[06:32] <j_humphrey> glitch*, it was doing it earlier
[06:32] <_Oz_> you can also spin the cube by pressing down on your mousewheel while hovering over anywhere on the background, and flicking it around
[06:32] <Ashnal> how would i get dosbox to read a config file i stash somewhere?
[06:32] <rainwalker> devnull: install them from gnome-look
[06:32] <pocketdrummer> Is cube enabled in extra visual effects?
[06:32] <Dr_willis> Ashnal,  it has command line options.
[06:32] <_Oz_> j_humphrey: did it work?
[06:32] <nickrud_> acee1235: you talking about video playback? set the video output to x11 instead of xv
[06:32] <acee1235> i did
[06:33] <acee1235> no luck
[06:33] <nickrud_> acee1235: the x1400?
[06:33] <_Oz_> I'd give you better directions but I'm reinstalling the computer I had compiz running on
[06:33] <acee1235> had to disable compoziting in the xorg
[06:33] <acee1235> yes
[06:33] <rainwalker> devnull: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=73346
[06:33] <cptnapalm> acee1235: Flickering playback?  Damn, sound EXACTLY like what I had going on b/f i replaced the ATI card...
[06:33] <devnull> rainwalker: thanks
[06:33] <CVD-PR> When i try to do a suspend it wake automatically, this is a commond problem in ubuntu or is something worng with my configs?
[06:33] <_Oz_> j_humphrey: I'll bet I can predict your next question if you got that working
[06:34] <nickrud_> acee1235: you can't use composite extension with the fglrx in ubuntu ...
[06:34] <acee1235> cptnapalm:  im going around the world this summer so my laptop might set...stolen
[06:34] <acee1235>  nickrud_:  seems like it
[06:34] <cptnapalm> acee1235: You should go to AMD and find the chip designer and beat them to death with it
[06:35] <skwashd> got it working ... hacked my persistent network rules
[06:35] <chubs730> !insurancefraud | acee1235
[06:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about insurancefraud - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:35] <acee1235> lol
[06:35] <nickrud_> acee1235: did you try using the xserver-xgl ? compiz works fine with that installed on most cards I've seen
[06:35] <badkitty> How would I find out what kernel is best for my processor? Its an amd athlon(64) 3000+
[06:35] <CVD-PR> ?
[06:35] <acee1235> nickrud_: were is that
[06:35] <nickrud_> badkitty: the generic one , unless you decide to custom compile
[06:35] <Ashnal> Dr_willis: ummm where is the default dosbox.conf file?
[06:35] <cptnapalm> nickrud_: I tried using xserver-xgl and all it did was hose everything until I completely uninstalled it...
[06:36] <nickrud_> acee1235:    sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl , log out and back in
[06:36] <badkitty> nickrud_: Is there a benefit to compile the kernel?
[06:36] <Dr_willis> Ashnal,  i would guess in /etc somewhere.
[06:36] <nickrud_> cptnapalm: use a minimal xorg.conf.  I'd recommend  dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg in fact.
[06:36] <acee1235> nickrud_: i can get compiz to work i just cant get compiz and video seems mutually exclusive dependent on the composite boolean
[06:36] <cptnapalm> nickrud_: I just swapped out the ati for nvidia... heh
[06:37] <nickrud_> acee1235: do not use the composite boolean. No composite section at all in the xorg.conf
[06:37] <badkitty> cptnapalm: Wow you get a hi five!
[06:37] <acee1235> ?
[06:37] <Ashnal> Dr_willis: i already looked in there, i cant find it
[06:37] <acee1235> ah
[06:37] <badkitty> cptnapalm: Down with ATI . NVidia FTW!
[06:37] <nickrud_> acee1235: try this:   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg && sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl , log out and back in
[06:37] <_Oz_> yeah, it's gotta be nvidia.
[06:38] <Dr_willis> Ashnal,  then make one?
[06:38] <cptnapalm> Ashnal: ok do this find /etc -type f -name "dosbox.conf" -print
[06:38] <_Oz_> their cards always work great and they're always compatible with everything.  dunno how anyone would willingly get sucked into an ATI.
[06:38] <nickrud_> badkitty: built into my laptop, gotta make it work
[06:38] <Dr_willis> could be an example one in the dosbox docs dir.
[06:38] <fantum13> I'm having DHCP issues with my AR5007EG on ndiswrapper (Gutsy amd64 with a 64 bit windows driver). I know the driver and card are functional, because if I can chain reboot enough for, than it'll work, but otherwise, I'm fscked. Does anyone have experience with this?
[06:38] <cptnapalm> Ashnal: I think that should find it if it is in the /etc directory
[06:39] <cptnapalm> badkitty: Swapping video cards cured all manner of headaches... and AMD STILL has not fixed their damn drivers
[06:39] <acee1235> rebooting
[06:39] <razordead> how come the screenlets.org web site hasn't been updated since 0.0.10
[06:39] <badkitty> nickrud_: So its better NOT to compile a new kernel unless I had to (especially for support reasons)
[06:39] <Ashnal> cptnapalm: i get zilc
[06:39] <pocketdrummer> rainwalker: Is cube enabled in the extra setting?
[06:39] <_Oz_> dr_willis: one downside of this browser sync by google is that there's really no way to use your bookmarks at a public computer.  got a solution for that one?
[06:39] <nickrud_> badkitty: absolutely. I haven't compiled one in a few years
[06:40] <badkitty> cptnapalm: I've disliked ati since I knew they existed.. it all went downhill from my first experience with an all-in-wonder
[06:40] <Dr_willis> _Oz_,  Check the various web sites that can keep your bookmarks i guess.  I dont use public coputers
[06:40] <cptnapalm> Ashnal: Ok, I'm thinking that there isn't one there then heh
[06:40] <badkitty> all-in-wonderwhythecrapitsnotworking!
[06:40] <razordead> _Oz_: I think del.icio.us would be better for that
[06:40] <cptnapalm> Ashnal: did you install from Synaptic or apt or some such?
[06:40] <j_humphrey> ok, so it didnt work
[06:40] <_Oz_> what happened
[06:40] <j_humphrey> hooray for crappy ati
[06:40] <Ashnal> cptnapalm: i installed using the add/remove feature
[06:41] <Dr_willis> /usr/share/doc/dosbox/dosbox.conf.example.gz
[06:41] <nickrud_> _Oz_: del.icio.us has a really useful firefox plugin as well
[06:41] <badkitty> I like the seemingly new plugin for firefox the speed-dial (surely a copy of operas speed dial)
[06:41] <_Oz_> oh, you're using ATI?  that does make it a bit more difficult
[06:41] <cptnapalm> badkitty: One thing which puzzles me is how the hell they have some chips that work great, but others that are totally borked
[06:41] <_Oz_> nickrud: thanks for the tip
[06:41] <_Oz_> I'll check that out
[06:41] <j_humphrey> _oz_ yeah, it does make it more difficult
[06:41] <cptnapalm> Ashnal: ok good... give me a minute and I'll see if i remember how to do something
[06:41] <Dr_willis> updatedb and locate  - are handy tools. :)
[06:41] <Jangari> ho would I install an app onto a server on which i don't have superuser permissions? I hear it's possible to put an app in my own ~/bin directory and run it from there
[06:41] <LinuxMercedes> cptnapalm: yeah.  I have an ATI here that works fine
[06:41] <Jangari> how*
[06:42] <badkitty> cptnapalm: Yah odd.. Do you know if ATI has the same kind of driver architecture that nvidia does IE. One driver for all cards (except GO?)
[06:42] <_Oz_> j_humphrey: are you still seeing only a two sided panel when you rotate the 'cube'?
[06:42] <Dr_willis> Jangari,  you could compile the app as a user. and install it to your home dir.
[06:42] <j_humphrey> linuxmercedes, are you on a mobility radien?
[06:42] <LinuxMercedes> nope
[06:42] <demortes> I have a completely unrelated question to help me with my ubuntu server. I need to register a domain name, but every time I use godaddy, it doesn't release it to be registered again. Anyone got any decent registration services that allows complete control over nameservers?
[06:43] <cptnapalm> LinuxMercedes: Had a laptop with an ATI was great.  Have had 2 desktops with ATI which were aweful...  :-/
[06:43] <j_humphrey> as long as i dont have virtual desktops, i think im fine
[06:43] <acee1234> compiz is up testing video
[06:43] <ubd>  how can i check if ubuntus cpu frequency handling
[06:43] <LinuxMercedes> j_humphrey: I have a radeon of some sort in the desktop (I forget which one); Laptop is Trident Video Accelerator =[
[06:43] <pocketdrummer> Does anyone know if cube is enabled on Extra mode? I tried ctrl+alt+left click and it does nothing.
[06:43] <Jangari> how do i compile it, lame, as a user, Dr_willis?
[06:43] <Jangari> or sox, even
[06:43] <Dr_willis> download the source.. and assiming the compiler stuff is installed.. unpack it.. and start compiling.
[06:43] <badkitty> demortes: What do you mean released again? You should be able to control nameservers of your domain through godaddy
[06:44] <Jangari> pocketdrummer: you have to get advanced desktop settings
[06:44] <demortes> Right, but I want to have it released back to the domain pool if and when it expires
[06:44] <shroothy> any one know how to open my own channel
[06:44] <demortes> I don't think great domains should be reserved for pointless ads
[06:44] <badkitty> pocketdrummer: If you look under the controls it should tell you what keys are binded to it
[06:44] <Jangari> compiling doesn't require superuser privileges?
[06:44] <devnull> hmm, out of beer...
[06:44] <acee1234> ok video doesnt flicker but it has reduced fps and is lagged behind the sound
[06:44] <devnull> compiling doesnt, but systemwide installation does
[06:45] <j_humphrey> when i switch between desktops (wheel up/down on desktop) it doesnt "flip" it looks like a cube, but i dont actually see a cube
[06:45] <pocketdrummer> Jangari, Badkitty: Thanks
[06:45] <cptnapalm> Ashnal: I *think* that dpkg -S dosbox.conf should work
[06:45] <devnull> in fact it is recommended that programs not be compiled as root by most
[06:45] <nickrud_> j_humphrey: hold down the middle mouse button and move the mouse around.
[06:45] <j_humphrey> wo
[06:45] <badkitty> j_humphrey: did you check to see how many desktops (horizontal setting in ccsm) you have?
[06:45] <j_humphrey> that works nickrud
[06:45] <Ashnal> cptnapalm: whatll that do? tell me where dosbox.conf is?
[06:46] <_Oz_> is it a cube now, j-hump?
[06:46] <cptnapalm> do not compile as root if at all possible.... If you do, you will get cooties and girls will not want to talk to you.
[06:46] <j_humphrey> yeah
[06:46] <Jangari> mm, the problem is that its a university owned server running redhat, and they won't allow us to install systemwide software that isn't supported by redhat, and they don't yet support the mp3 libraries for so
[06:46] <Jangari> sox
[06:46] <demortes> You're running ubuntu, unless you make a lot of money, I doubt your in any state to talk to girls anyway
[06:46] <j_humphrey> is there a way to zoom out?
[06:46] <badkitty> j_humphrey: The normal ctrl-alt keys probably are not binded or something
[06:46] <j_humphrey> demortes, im running ubuntu, and im engaged :)
[06:46] <chubs730> demortes: no way, ubuntu sounds so exotic
[06:46] <cptnapalm> Ashnal: I don't have dosbox.  That will tell dpkg to search for the packages that have dosbox.conf  so should tell you where it installed it
[06:46] <_Oz_> j-hump: I knew you'd ask that
[06:47] <chubs730> exotic ~ erotic
[06:47] <_Oz_> look under rotating cube in the compiz-config
[06:47] <_Oz_> one of the options is "scale"
[06:47] <demortes> chubs730 I can see that, but not like to women :P
[06:47] <_Oz_> zoom it to about 3.0
[06:47] <_Oz_> it'll start looking more like a cube
[06:47] <Ashnal> cptnapalm: so will this dpkg tell me where any app is installed?
[06:47] <cptnapalm> Ashnal: it will tell you where a particular file is, if you installed it the normal way
[06:48] <chubs730> demortes: "maynards-girl has quit ()"  yeah guess not :/
[06:48] <demortes> so anyone have a preferred place for domain registration?
[06:48] <nickrud> Ashnal: dpkg -L <packagename> shows where all the files get installed
[06:48] <Jangari> rotating the cube with like 16 desktops is fun
[06:48] <cptnapalm> nickrud: Damnit i forgot about the -L
[06:48] <Jangari> it turns into a massive wheel, like a big block of parmesan
[06:48] <badkitty> demortes: I've just used godaddy. Also if you go to brinkster.com (if you need hosting) they give you a domain name or two for free with the hosting
[06:49] <Dr_willis>  Ashnal    /usr/share/doc/dosbox/dosbox.conf.example.gz
[06:49] <chubs730> demortes: godaddy has been fine for me also
[06:49] <Ashnal> nickrud:thank you that will be soooo helpful as i never seem to be able to find program files since they seem to be scattered everywhere
[06:49] <demortes> I'm not liking Godaddy, because of them, I can't use the same domain name
[06:49] <NineTails> Hello
[06:49] <Mandos> Hello.
[06:49] <_Oz_> Hello.
[06:49] <demortes> They fail to release the domain to a functional state
[06:49] <LinuxMercedes> Hello.
[06:49] <witepa> Hi, I am trying to install madwifi to enable my wireless card, but I am encountering some difficulties. First off, can anyone help me to why my wireless device is coming up as eth1 instead of ath0 or wifi0?
[06:49] <cptnapalm> Dr_willis: what were they thinking slapping it into /usr/share/doc....
[06:49] <badkitty> demortes: WHO
[06:49] <Jangari> i went with 1and1, i didn't know any others and 1and1 were suggested to me, 6 bucks a year wasn't too bad i though
[06:49] <j_humphrey> wow, compiz is so much better than aero
[06:49] <Jangari> thought
[06:49] <Mandos> I am having trouble with suspend/hibernate on Feisty.  It used to work, but now it is not.
[06:49] <NineTails> dunno
[06:49] <demortes> badkitty: godaddy.
[06:50] <demortes> I just need domain, not hosting.
[06:50] <badkitty> demortes: I never had problems with them..
[06:50] <Dr_willis> cptnapalm,  its an example config file. :)  where else should it be.
[06:50] <Dr_willis> cpTanis,  dosbox can generate a conf file I belive from some command also..
[06:50] <Dr_willis> oops wrong nick :)
[06:50] <_Oz_> badkitty
[06:50] <j> j_humphrey aer?
[06:50] <badkitty> _Oz_: Geah
[06:50] <_Oz_> how do I get twinview working again?
[06:50] <_Oz_> there's a quick and easy way to get x-server
[06:50] <Mandos> unfortunately, I have not been able to find any reason for why it does not work.
[06:50] <badkitty> _Oz_: Let me get the link
[06:50] <_Oz_> but I forgot it
[06:50] <nickrud> demortes: why not just transfer the domain?
[06:51] <demortes> I no longer own it
[06:51] <cptnapalm> Dr_willis: I've always hated example configs... I mean, ship the damn thing with something that at least barely works and put it in the right place...  Where the hell is my pitchfork?!?!
[06:51] <cptnapalm> :)
[06:51] <badkitty> _Oz_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1773584
[06:51] <Mandos> And my ubuntuforums posts have not received any response.
[06:51] <Mandos> Which is not unusual.
[06:51] <cptnapalm> Mandos: well frequently when noone knows, they don't answer :-/
[06:52] <Dr_willis> cptnapalm, i found it. :)   of course i also read the docs. :)
[06:52] <_Oz_> aha
[06:52] <_Oz_> that's it
[06:52] <Ashnal> cptnapalm: im with you, and i currently have no idea where to put this config file so that dosbox will load it at startup
[06:52] <badkitty> I think twinview is a lame name.. especially because my two monitors barely look alike
[06:52] <_Oz_> thank you, badkitty.  I love that method -- so much easier.
[06:52] <nickrud> Mandos: try looking in /var/log/syslog , around the time you suspend. You might find a clue there
[06:52] <witepa> Hey again, I am trying to install madwifi to enable my wireless card, but I am encountering some difficulties. First off, can anyone help me to why my wireless device is coming up as eth1 instead of ath0 or wifi0?
[06:52] <j> can someone help me . i'm trying to remove my old ubuntu partitions. I have it in the same hard drive that im running another partation with ubuntu
[06:52] <Mandos> I've tried.
[06:52] <sp219> j: gparted?
[06:52] <badkitty> _Oz_: It's one of those things you just need to get it working already you know?
[06:52] <Dr_willis> Ashnal,  dosbox man pages says in the current directory
[06:52] <Mandos> Looking in /var/log/syslog.  It doesn't say much.  I am using uswsusp.  It fails on "suspending consoles".
[06:53] <cptnapalm> Ashnal: See, it is all about finding something, and editing it... it should not be about finding something, figure out where to put it and then figure out how the hell to get it to work at all
[06:53] <Mandos> And then doesn't turn off the computer.
[06:53] <sigma> witepa: that depends on your hardware and how it is connected, mine is eth1 as well
[06:53] <Mandos> That's for s2disk/s2both.
[06:53] <badkitty> _Oz_: Although I thought there was a graphical way to do that now ...
[06:53] <Ashnal> Dr_willis: the directory that the dosbox executable is in?
[06:53] <j> sp219 so its /dev/sda1 ext3 but then it has linux-swap as /dev/sda2 and then ext /dev/sda3 for the one im running now
[06:53] <Dr_willis> Ashnal,  the directory you RUN the program from
[06:53] <nickrud> Mandos:   ubuntu-users mail list, it has some smart people there. attach the relevant part of the syslog
[06:53] <witepa> sigma: when i try to do iwlist eth1 scan, i get eth1 no scan results
[06:53] <witepa> sigma: after installing madwifi
[06:53] <Dr_willis> Ashnal,  this lets you put a config file in each dos games dir. that gets used.
[06:53] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[06:53] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[06:54] <cptnapalm> w00h00!
[06:54] <badkitty> netsplit!
[06:54] <Jangari> ooh, another netsplit
[06:54] <Mandos> OK, I"ll try that.
[06:54] <Jangari> freaky
[06:54] <sigma> hah, netsplit
[06:54] <Dr_willis> cptnapalm,  the fact its mentioned in the man page  is  hiding it eh. :)
[06:54] <Ashnal> Dr_willis: is it possible to have a global config file that loads when dosbox does?
[06:54] <sp219> Netsplit ftw
[06:54] <sp219> 01:54… These users have been split from #ubuntu: danopia`cat, b4ggi0, marko-_-_, Rabiddog, jughead, edward_, mjwolf, dirk__, xerophyt1, mrMister, kikr, maddler, sKy\, scr, Oktanouc, ParsiTux_, kilrae, SuperLag, Kwitschibo, jwisher, J4t, Slap_Stick, saxin, Rprp, Cirex, Virtuall, pherring, LumBuntu, popey, jlong, Keith_, snaregirl, opkg2s, Faust-C, netdefilr, morodock, insta, Johnny_5_elsewhe, eyyYo, Aloha, riotkittie, krim, emitchlpd, pram
[06:54] <sp219> heh
[06:54] <badkitty> why does that happen anyway?
[06:54] <j> can someone help me . i'm trying to remove my old ubuntu partitions. I have it in the same hard drive that im running another partation with ubuntu
[06:54] <Dr_willis> Ashnal,  proberly. Id  have to double check the man pages
[06:54] <Jangari> meh, that ain't many
[06:54] <j> i want to delete the sda1 first one /dev/sda1 ext3 but then it has linux-swap as /dev/sda2 and then ext /dev/sda3 for the one im running now
[06:54] <Mandos> Still, it failed for no reason.  Lots of people have problems with nvidia and ATI, but I don't have those.
[06:54] <sp219> 58
[06:54] <cptnapalm> Dr_willis: Everything should go where it is supposed to go...
[06:54] <Jangari> could have been 200 more
[06:55] <sp219> badkitty: one of the servers lost it's connection
[06:55] <badkitty> ahh
[06:55] <Jangari> j: that seems reasonable, what's the problem?
[06:55] <j> would that be a problem for linux swap ..messing up the
[06:55] <Dr_willis> cptnapalm,  it dosent need one  :) so there for its going in the example dir.
[06:55] <witepa> sigma: when i try to do iwlist eth1 scan, i get eth1 no scan results
[06:55] <Jangari> shouldn't be a problem for the swap,
[06:55] <j> Jangari want to delete the sda1 first one /dev/sda1 ext3 but then it has linux-swap as /dev/sda2 and then ext /dev/sda3 for the one im running now
[06:55] <j_humphrey> ok, i did something and i have little fires on my window, what is that?
[06:55] <Mandos> ubuntu-users is enormous-traffic.
[06:55] <Mandos> Hmm.
[06:56] <Jangari> i heard you the first two times, j
[06:56] <_Oz_> what does "gksudo" mean anyway?  Obviously I know what sudo does.
[06:56] <dragon> are there any good games that i can install on ubuntu?
[06:56] <_Oz_> why the "gk"?
[06:56] <Jangari> no dragon, none
[06:56] <Jangari> never ever
[06:56] <badkitty> dragon: Umm enemy-territory
[06:56] <j_humphrey> what does clone output do?
[06:56] <Jangari> fun is not permitted
[06:56] <Dr_willis> !info rocksndiamonds
[06:56] <ubotu> rocksndiamonds (source: rocksndiamonds): Arcade style game. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 3.2.3-3 (gutsy), package size 384 kB, installed size 1256 kB
[06:56] <_Oz_> d  o  r  k  f  a  c  e
[06:56] <cptnapalm> Dr_willis: but it has to be in the directory from which you happen to be to run the program?  that's sad... Hell even a totally incompetent n00Bz C learner can find out how to load from a default location...
[06:56] <Dr_willis> thats a must get game.
[06:56] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:56] <Starnestommy> _Oz_: it's a gtk frontend to sudo
[06:56] <dorkface> Hi all, I have a .tff file with a font that I really want to use.  I tried searching google, but is it possible to convert .tff to .pcf, so konsole can understand it?
[06:56] <_Oz_> why does it need a gtk front end?
[06:57] <cptnapalm> Dr_willis: Ok maybe not one totally incompetent... I mean I don't know how to do it and I'm completely clueless heh
[06:57] <j> jangari so i can delete sda1 ext3 the old ubuntu partation .. but its mount point /media/sda1 would i run into problems if i remove it?
[06:57] <neil_d> _Oz_: it help when runing gui tools like gedit
[06:57] <Starnestommy> _Oz_: note that a lot of graphical administrative programs use it
[06:57] <dragon> so is there a website that has a list of good games? or do i just look up on google " linux games"?
[06:57] <j> jangari nvm what i said.
[06:57] <dragon> also i cant seem to get sound to work
[06:57] <Mandos> OK thanks.
[06:57] <chubs730> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Boot_from_Windows_Bootloader_(NTLDR)_and_why
[06:58] <chubs730> enjoy
[06:58] <Mandos> I filed a launchpad bug.
[06:58] <_Oz_> thanks, starnes and neil.
[06:58] <Ashnal> dragon:theres always emulators which are fun
[06:58] <Mandos> We'll see if it gets any responses.
[06:58] <badkitty> dragon: There was a list somewhere google best linux games...
[06:58] <Dr_willis> cptnapalm,  I WANT it to run from the current dir. that way when i cd to 'doom' and do 'dosbox' it auto runs that config file. which i set up to run doom., if i am in the warlords dir - i set it up to auto run warlords
[06:58] <chubs730> oops sorry wrong channel
[06:58] <Jangari> you should probably solicit advice from someone who knows what they're talking about, j, but i would assume that the numbering of the partition wouldn't change if you format an entire partition
[06:58] <badkitty> dragon: You can also look into sourceforge
[06:58] <j> jangari is it ok if 1st partition is linux-swap and 2nd is ubutnut
[06:58] <badkitty> dragon: But i think sudoku is fun!!
[06:58] <cptnapalm> Dr_willis: Oh wait... its not a system config then?  Its a per app thing?
[06:58] <dragon> so either google good linux games or use sourceforge?
[06:58] <Jangari> i don't think it matters where they are, I have first partition swap, second data, third xp pro, fourth ext3
[06:59] <Ashnal> Dr_willis: i launch dosbox itself, and then the game inside it
[06:59] <j> Jangari thank you
[06:59] <badkitty> dragon: Try both! Use those firefox tabs!!
[06:59] <Dr_willis> cptnapalm, it looks for a user made config, and in the current dir..
[06:59] <evil_tech> J: it doesnt matter where ubuntu is installed as long as grub can point to it
[06:59] <Dr_willis> Ashnal,  you can set up a config to autorun the game if you wanted.
[06:59] <Mandos> I'm going to google "bad linux games."
[06:59] <dragon> ok i'll try those thanks :)
[06:59] <badkitty> Mandos: Great idea!
[06:59] <Jangari> also, reformatting one partition, your first, won't renumber those after it, they're fixed spaces on the disk
[06:59] <evil_tech> Mandos: you need Blobwars :)
[06:59] <dragon> as far as emulaters go do you mean wine? cause i cant get it to work and i have tried lots of times
[07:00] <Jangari> when you format it for another use, dataspace, say, it'll become the first partition
[07:00] <cptnapalm> good linux game was xsoldier or something like that fun and hard
[07:00] <Jangari> wine bites
[07:00] <Mandos> It doesn't give me much.  Just a bunch of bug reports.
[07:00] <Mandos> Maybe if I google "terrible linux games" it will be more fruitful.
[07:00] <badkitty> dragon: There are many games that run natively on linux.. give those a try... if you like FPS try enemy territory
[07:00] <Jangari> why do you want bad games, Mandos?
[07:00] <nickrud> wine is evil, it perpetuates non-free software
[07:00] <Ashnal> Dr_willis: i might want to explain what im trying to do i guess haha cause its not something typical, im actually trying to compile a dos game so i can play it...cause all i have is the source code....and i need to set something in the autoexec.bat to get it to compile, which i thought i could do through a config file
[07:01] <badkitty> dragon: I think another popular one is called fortress???
[07:01] <Cpudan80> nickrud: Perhaps, but if you can run the stuff you need to run without windows --- is that so bad?
[07:01] <Jangari> not so much non-free, nickrud, but closed-access,
[07:01] <Dr_willis> Ashnal,  compile a dos game under linux? Good Luck with that..
[07:01] <sigma> .... just did a search for blob.... found: "Metal Blob Solid" ... wtf...
[07:01] <cptnapalm> Dr_willis: it would seem to me a better way to do that would be to have it as essentially a script which you would toss in a personal bin so just call up whatever game you want to run by its name
[07:01] <dragon> what did you mean by emulater? you mean like zsnes? thats a cool emulater wounder if they have a linux ver of it
[07:01] <Ashnal> Dr_willis, no compile a dos game inside of dosbox
[07:01] <achandrashekar> hello I have a question about an ltsp setup which uses nfs mounted home drive. Im confused about setup and also the use of ldap for authentication. Does anyone have experience with this?
[07:01] <nickrud> Jangari: same thing.
[07:01] <Cpudan80> nickrud: I'd rather have an app running in wine than a VM with Windows XP + app
[07:01] <Dr_willis> cptnapalm,  unless you need seperate configs for each game..
[07:01] <Jangari> okay, so you don't mean monetarily free
[07:02] <Mandos> Jangari: Just because it amuses me.
[07:02] <Mr__> does this room have some sort of webchat  block on it?
[07:02] <Dr_willis> Ashnal,  that dosbox config file has autorun commands at the end of it. I guess ya could toss them in there.
[07:02] <nickrud> Cpudan80: it's a political thing, so off topic ;)
[07:02] <badkitty> Cpudan80: if possible yah.. xp in vm is the pits
[07:02] <Cpudan80> nickrud: heh, alrighty
[07:02] <Jangari> liektoolbox for linguists, free, but only availsble for pc or intel mac via crossover, and linux via wine
[07:02] <Dr_willis> Ashnal,  you got a compiler for dos appready eh?
[07:02] <Jangari> Mandos: how about xmame?
[07:02] <Ashnal> Dr_willis: im trying to set the dos compiler up
[07:02] <cptnapalm> Dr_willis: nope.  See if was essentially a script, then you would change what options needed to be changed then name the script after the game.  Calling the script would then call dosbox to run the dos game in the specially needed way.
[07:03] <j_humphrey> where do you get widgets for the widget layer?
[07:03] <Mandos> Installing it.
[07:03] <Dr_willis> cptnapalm,  this is linxu do whatever you want. You could alwyas set up whatever alias;s ytou want. :P
[07:03] <Ashnal> Dr_willis:and the environment variables need to be set in auutoexec.bat
[07:03] <Mandos> It looks big.
[07:03] <Starnestommy> Mr__: looks like it
[07:03] <Jangari> you'll need to find the roms as well, Mandos
[07:03] <Mr__> Starnestommy: y?
[07:03] <Dr_willis> Ashnal,  the dosbox config file has a auto run thing at the end that can do that.
[07:03] <Starnestommy> Mr__: abuse
[07:03] <Jangari> they can be a bit of a b|tch
[07:03] <[MGR]Mikkel> Hi ...
[07:04] <cptnapalm> Dr_willis: Of course I've now been talking out of my butt for half an hour about a program that I have never used so... Ignore me at your leisure :)
[07:04] <Ashnal> Dr_willis:yea thats what ive been trying to get at, however i dont know where to put the damn thing
[07:04] <[MGR]Mikkel> I has Download the Script to my IRC Server! .. and i can not running it! its say : Fail: Cannot chdir(/home/server/lib): Permission denied, check DPATH <- I know dont no why? Please Help me!
[07:04] <Dr_willis> cptnapalm,   im about to. :) i 'cd warlords2' and run run dosbox. and it runs the game for me. I could make a 2 line script that just cd's and runs. if i wanted.
[07:04] <Mr__> Starnestommy: can any sites get approval?
[07:04] <Ashnal> Dr_willis:so that when i run dosbox by itself it loads the config, allowing me to run the compiler afterwards inside
[07:05] <Dr_willis> Ashnal,  put the dosbov config in the dir with the dos game filea.. cd to the dos dir.. and run dosbox.
[07:05] <Starnestommy> Mr__: you could probably ask the ops for an exception
[07:05] <Dr_willis> Ashnal,  you are making it WAY too hard.
[07:05] <Mr__> Starnestommy: who are they?
[07:05] <tich> can someone direct me to a page that lists portable mp3/movie players (like ipods) that work well with ubuntu?
[07:05] <Ashnal> Dr_willis: i cant just 'run' the game >_>
[07:05] <Starnestommy> Mr__: /join #ubuntu-ops ?
[07:05] <Dr_willis> Ashnal,  you run dosbox. that gives you a shell.
[07:05] <cptnapalm> Dr_willis: I remember writing scripts like that... but no one ever said you had to be in the particular directory to run the stuff so I'd be stupidly looking into dependency problems for a week...
[07:06] <Dr_willis> you could then just make a script that sets up the commands if you wanted.
[07:06] <[MGR]Mikkel> Hello all ... I need help i has Problem to Why Can i not Start the ircu up??? Fail: Cannot chdir(/home/server/lib): Permission denied, check DPATH
[07:06] <Jangari> tich, they'll all work, it's just a matter fo finding out how
[07:06] <star1> Hi there, my install of Beryl seems to be broken -- when I try to use it, I don't get any title-bars or borders on my windows.  I read somewhere that to fix it, I need to recompile the fglrx kernel module, but it keeps failing saying it can't find a directory that I know exists.  Can anyone help me out?
[07:06] <cptnapalm> Ashnal: you have to compile DOS source code?
[07:06] <j> Jangari now there a error when i restarted
[07:06] <Jangari> my ipod video 5.5, for instance, works better with ubuntu than it ever did on windows with itunes or anapod explorer
[07:06] <Starnestommy> [MGR]Mikkel: does /home/server/lib exist?
[07:06] <Ashnal> cptnapalm: YES
[07:06] <badkitty> star1: Are you using beryl or compiz-fusion?
[07:06] <Jangari> what error, j, 17?
[07:06] <j> jangari it went to fsck
[07:07] <[MGR]Mikkel> Starnestommy: Yes! i can see : the 1 File!
[07:07] <Jangari> that isn't an error,
[07:07] <j> so /var/log/fsck
[07:07] <tich> Jangari: but some might work better/easier than others... and some support open codecs.
[07:07] <Starnestommy> [MGR]Mikkel: is it a file or a directory?
[07:07] <guildman12> hi
[07:07] <[MGR]Mikkel> a file!
[07:07] <Ashnal> cptnapalm: i need to compile DOS source into a DOS executable to be run in DOSbox
[07:07] <chubs730> hi
[07:07] <Dr_willis> cptnapalm,  the man page for dosbox tells where it look for the config. :)   current dir, then a users .dosboxrc  or other ways.
[07:07] <[MGR]Mikkel> example.conf <-
[07:07] <Starnestommy> [MGR]Mikkel: it must be a directory
[07:07] <guildman12> omg is this abunch of fellow ubuntuers?!?!?!!
[07:07] <durl> hello.  I'm having problems getting my usplash screen to work.  It shows up as black (out of sync).  I'm using Gutsy.
[07:07] <Jangari> true, tich, i have the problem now of having a computer that can't encode to mp3 and a player that doesn't read ogg vorbis
[07:07] <cptnapalm> Ashnal: what the hell... I don't think I ever thought that would be something anyone would ever need to do... Compile DOS source so can run a DOS emulator to run on Linux
[07:07] <_Oz_> badkitty, do you remember how to get all the top taskbar stuff moved from the left monitor to the right one in twinview?
[07:07] <guildman12> omg is this abunch of fellow ubuntuers?!?!?!!
[07:07] <guildman12> omg is this abunch of fellow ubuntuers?!?!?!!
[07:07] <guildman12> omg is this abunch of fellow ubuntuers?!?!?!!
[07:07] <Jangari> unless i reinstall rockbox
[07:08] <guildman12> hello?
[07:08] <j> jangari it isn;t an error?
[07:08] <Dr_willis> Ashnal,  so Put the code and compiler in a directory named "DosWork" cd to DosWork , run dosbox. IF thers a dosbox.conf in that dir. it will auto run that.
[07:08] <star1> badkitty: I think I'm using Beryl, I installed it a while ago. If you think I should just get rid of Beryl and try to switch to Fusion, I'd appreciate any pointers, since I remember Beryl being a pain to get working to begin with
[07:08] <Ashnal> cptnapalm:well if i had a dos machine all would be dandy now wouldnt it?
[07:08] <[MGR]Mikkel> Starnestommy: I dont no ... Its a File from ircu i has downloadet :)
[07:08] <Jangari> file system check isn't necerrarily an error
[07:08] <cptnapalm> guildman12: Nope... we are a whole different foreign Ubuntuers  ;)
[07:08] <j> jangari fsck.ext3: Unable to resolve 'UUID=18ba4b11-4d98-485b-8461-675b5a08b271 fsck died with exit status 8
[07:08] <Jangari> did it boot after checking the file system?
[07:08] <cptnapalm> Ashnal: If you had a compiler... maybe...
[07:08] <j> jangari how i resolve this or fix
[07:08] <Starnestommy> [MGR]Mikkel: I think you probably installed it wrong
[07:08] <Jangari> oh, that's an error
[07:08] <Ashnal> cptnapalm: i have the compiler
[07:08] <Hewus> Hi. My RAM and page file (2GB and 1GB respectively) are both very full at the moment according to system monitor, but listing the processes doesn't show anything out of the ordinary. Anyone know a tool that will give me details of what is in RAM? Possibly some command line tool?
[07:08] <j> Jangari nope it tell me to ctrl d then its boot
[07:08] <[MGR]Mikkel> Starnestommy: How can i Install it? i will not install on Root :S
[07:08] <tich> has someone come across a wiki or forum that lists portable players that work well with ubuntu?
[07:09] <Jangari> in grub, have a look at the boot line by pressing e twice (i think it's twice)
[07:09] <badkitty> star1: Yes I would.. I would recommend upgrading to gutsy and installing compiz-fusion.. works way better than beryl
[07:09] <cptnapalm> Hewus  top
[07:09] <j> Jangari grub?
[07:09] <Jangari> hang on, j
[07:09] <star1> badkitty: I have gutsy, I just have beryl left-over
[07:09] <j> Jangari ok
[07:09] <Jangari> that's the file system that you just reformatted, right?
[07:09] <badkitty> star1: Oh you did a dist-upgrade?
[07:09] <acee1234> why does running google earth crash x-server?
[07:09] <star1> badkitty: Yes
[07:09] <witepa>   I am having trouble getting madwifi to work with a Linksys Broadcom BCM4306 with Gutsy... can I get someone to help me please?
[07:09] <cptnapalm> Ashnal: so have to run a DOS compiler under an emulator on linux to compile DOS code on Linux so can run a DOS emulator to run a game on Linux
[07:09] <guildman12> hello?
[07:09] <guildman12> hello?
[07:09] <guildman12> hello?
[07:09] <guildman12> hello?
[07:09] <guildman12> hello?
[07:09] <guildman12> hello?
[07:09] <FloodBot1> guildman12: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:10] <badkitty> star1: Any chance you 'd want to reinstall?
[07:10] <[MGR]Mikkel> Starnestommy: i are In the Here you can see : mikkel@server-desktop:~/snircd.12.10.1.3.4/ircd$ <-
[07:10] <Hewus> cptnapalm: ty, worked perfectly. looks like it's compiz.real o_O
[07:10] <Starnestommy> [MGR]Mikkel: I don't remember how ircu works, but I have worked with a few other ircds
[07:10] <cptnapalm> Hewus: Color me unsurprised heh
[07:10] <crdlb> Hewus: nvidia?
[07:10] <badkitty> star1: It is so much easier now its a dream I had to reinstall yesterday, had everything up and customized in under 2 hours
[07:10] <cptnapalm> Hewus: top can be sorted in different ways.  Compiz can be... odd sometimes... heh
[07:10] <Hewus> crdlb: yes. 7600GT nvidia
[07:11] <crdlb> Hewus: how much video ram?
[07:11] <star1> badkitty: I've been thinking about it, but having nightmares of getting it all set up (my first install was back with 6.04, I think).  Glad to hear it's better
[07:11] <Jangari> j: do what it asks for, press ctrl + D or whatever it is, i have a feeling that all that's happenes is your menu.lst thinks your old installation is still there, which it isn't, causing a fsch error
[07:11] <Hewus> cptnapalm: yes I can see it bouncing around, not the top CPU process but it's definitely the memory hog
[07:11] <crdlb> Hewus: the reason I ask is that the nvidia driver (only nvidia-glx-new) has a horrendous memory leak when using compiz (it causes compiz to appear to be leaking)
[07:11] <Hewus> crdlb: 256MB
[07:11] <Jangari> so when you boot, you just have to change the enu.lst to get rid of the line that pertains to the non-existent operating system
[07:11] <Jangari> menu.lst*
[07:12] <j> Jangari is there  any way i can get ride ?
[07:12] <Jangari> ride?
[07:12] <badkitty> star1: Yeah basically there is a restricted drivers manager in the GUI- the drivers are in the repos, all you gotta do is download the manager and enable the effects are your rockin
[07:12] <star1> badkitty: Nice to hear
[07:12] <j> Jangari how? i'm new to this..
[07:12] <Hewus> crdlb: I've been running Guild Wars through Wine for >24h now so I'm not complaining too much, just was interested what was taking up the RAM since apparently it wasn't Wine itself
[07:12] <Jangari> what is it asking of you now, j?
[07:12] <badkitty> star1: Hardest part now is waiting for the liveCD to load ..
[07:12] <cptnapalm> and a good night to all
[07:13] <[MGR]Mikkel> Starnestommy: I can Running bircd <- its works! I has litte problem! i has Download The Script from One Site .. I can not running it? it say : Need mask :S
[07:13] <badkitty> cptnapalm: Where you off too
[07:13] <Hewus> crdlb: I just checked, yep I have nvidia-glx-new
[07:13] <cptnapalm> badkitty: lalaland?
[07:13] <star1> badkitty: I'll probably try and plan this out a little bit first, since I've always had to use the alternate CD in the past.  I have an ATI Mobile Radeon that doesn't play well with the LiveCD
[07:13] <rewer> hello
[07:13] <badkitty> cptnapalm: Ah you don't wanna go there, hang out with the boys for a while
[07:13] <cptnapalm> badkitty: or if I've read too much Lovecraft lately, the Dreamlands
[07:14] <bluefoxx> ok, so i got a network hub today, and i have this second computer i want to get going on the net, runs 7.10 and i want to make it able to log into an account on this computer instead of one on itself, but it doesnt even connect to the net, any suggestions? i could disable the onboard and use an adaptor instead maybe, i have a few /97 to /00 3com cards laying around...any suggestions?
[07:14] <rewer> anyone interested in purchasing an unlimited whm master reseller?
[07:14] <badkitty> star1: OIC .. I haven't tried the new install with ati yet.. although I hear the support for ati is getting way better
[07:14] <j> Jangari how? how do i change menu.lst? "he line that pertains to the non-existent operating system"
[07:14] <Jangari> j
[07:14] <nickrud> !ot | rewer
[07:14] <ubotu> rewer: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:14] <Jangari> what is it asking you to do right now?
[07:14] <acee1234> nickrud_:  you here?
[07:14] <badkitty> cptnapalm: Ok well ttyl mang
[07:14] <nickrud> acee1234: yep
[07:14] <cptnapalm> badkitty: night :)
[07:15] <j> Jangari nothing right now
[07:15] <Jangari> has it booted up?
[07:15] <j> Jangari ya
[07:15] <_Oz_> badkitty, do you remember how to get all the top taskbar stuff moved from the left monitor to the right one in twinview?
[07:15] <bluefoxx> if it helps the hub is a 4 port one for 16.99CDN at best buy
[07:15] <Jangari> if so, open a terminal, type "sudo pico /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[07:15] <badkitty> _Oz_: Drag it over there
[07:15] <acee1234> nickrud_:  that got compiz working and i can restart x now without freezing but google earth now crashes x and video playback has major fps loss and lag
[07:16] <crdlb> Hewus: with 256MB of vram, it shouldn't be too bad, but it makes compiz unusable on weaker nvidia cards
[07:16] <star1> badkitty: Yeah, I hope so.  It's no big deal anymore, I've done it a few times so I have the hang of it.  I usually just end up manually grabbing the fglrx drivers from the repos' via http beforehand (since I'm at a Uni where I have to log in to use the net), and then I'm good to go
[07:16] <j> Jangari ok. what am i'm looking for?
[07:16] <sp219> Does anyone know of a way to log out another user, so I can use the 'deluser' function?
[07:16] <Jangari> scroll down until you get to a bunch of lines that don't begin with #
[07:16] <badkitty> star1: Cool. Yah it will be so much better once you upgrade
[07:16] <mooseman447> what does update-initramfs do?
[07:17] <Nem1> ähm
[07:17] <nickrud> acee1234: the screwed up part about using xserver-xgl is it screws up other apps use of direct rendering, that's the issue with google earth I'd bet but if crdlb is around still, he understands this stuff way better than I do
[07:17] <Hewus> crdlb: yes it's usable, even now. It will be due to the fact I've been running a heavy 3D app in Wine for an extended period of time. I'll restart when I can be bothered, since it's not causing me any direct problems.
[07:17] <j> Jangari # end default options # rite?
[07:17] <Jangari> they shoudl say stuff like "title           Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic"
[07:17] <star1> badkitty: Can't wait!  I'm going to go start planning a little bit and getting organized -- thanks for the help!  With any luck I'll be up and running by later tonight.
[07:17] <Jangari> yeah, after that 'end default options' bit
[07:17] <j> Jangari roger . I am looking rite now
[07:17] <Nem1> a
[07:17] <Jangari> pastebin the rest
[07:17] <badkitty> star1: Great goodluck!
[07:17] <Jangari> !pastebin | j
[07:17] <ubotu> j: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:18] <acee1234> crdlb: you around tonight?
[07:18] <star1> badkitty: Thanks, cya!
[07:18] <mooseman447> whats the difference between 2.6.22-14-386 and 2.6.22-14-generic
[07:18] <sp219> Does anyone know of a way to log out another user, so I can use the 'deluser' function?
[07:18] <crdlb> acee1234: Xgl does cause issues with running oepngl apps and video playback, there isn't too much you can do about it :/
[07:18] <Jangari> fvcked if i know
[07:19] <crdlb> mooseman447: -386 is for really old computers (actual i386s); -generic is for everything else
[07:19] <acee1234> crdlb: ok if i give up my compiz aspirations what can i do to get things back in order?
[07:19] <zgmf-x20a> hey all.  im on ubuntu 7.10.  i have a question about movie files.  how do i STOP them from having the preview of them as an icon.  the feature takes up to much cpu/time.
[07:19] <nickrud> acee1234: the only way I've gotten useful video in compiz is to use the x11 output module in vlc
[07:20] <crdlb> acee1234: uninstall xserver-xgl or touch ~/.config/xserver-xgl/disable
[07:20] <j> Jangari http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55444/
[07:20] <mooseman447> crdlb i just had an issue upgrading from 7.04 to 7.10 and followed this bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/128313 so i should boot into -generic?
[07:21] <sp219> Does anyone know of a way to log out another user, so I can use the 'deluser' function?
[07:21] <Dr_willis> sp219,  kill all the users processes
[07:21] <j> Jangari http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55444/
[07:21] <crdlb> mooseman447: yes, you should use -generic
[07:22] <Jangari> j did you accidentally paste it twice? or does your menu.lst contain the same lines twice?
[07:22] <acee1234> "sudo apt-get remove xserver-xgl"
[07:22] <acee1234> restarting x
[07:22] <mooseman447> crdlb how do i make -generic the default because grub seems to boot -386 unless i stop it
[07:22] <j> Jangari wopps
[07:22] <j> Jangari sorry
[07:23] <crdlb> mooseman447: uninstalling the -386 image is one way
[07:23] <mooseman447> crdlb i just tried booting to -generic and it said i was in low graphics mode
[07:23] <j> Jangari http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55445/
[07:23] <Jangari> is that it, j? there were no other operating systems listed?
[07:24] <crdlb> mooseman447: make sure you have the 'linux-generic' package installed so that you have the right linux-restricted-modules installed for that kernel
[07:24] <zgmf-x20a> hey all.  im on ubuntu 7.10.  i have a question about movie files.  how do i STOP them from having the preview of them as an icon.  the feature takes up to much cpu/time.
[07:24] <Jangari> oh, that's what i'm looking for
[07:24] <_Oz_> yep you were right badkitty
[07:24] <_Oz_> just needed to drag it
[07:25] <_Oz_> heh
[07:25] <nickrud> zgmf-x20a: in the file browser, edit->prefs preview tab
[07:25] <badkitty> _Oz_: whats that?
[07:25] <badkitty> _Oz_: Oh hehe
[07:25] <j> Jangari thats what i have only ubuntu
[07:26] <j> Jangari thats what i have only ubuntu
[07:26] <acee1234> crdlb: ok other than not being able to restart x without hard boot things work
[07:26] <Jangari> no, i actually was after that last one,
[07:26] <j> Jangari thats what i have removed my 1st partiton from
[07:26] <zgmf-x20a> nickrud: AHHHHH thats where it is!  thank you!!  ^_^
[07:26] <Jangari> that's the partition that you just reformatted
[07:26] <Jangari> right, it's also the one throwing up the error message:  fsck.ext3: Unable to resolve 'UUID=18ba4b11-4d98-485b-8461-675b5a08b271 fsck died with exit status 8
[07:27] <Jangari> same uuid
[07:27] <iDivine> Say I unzipped something, How would I install it?
[07:27] <j> Jangari http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55446/
[07:27] <j> Jangari so what should i do?
[07:27] <macogw> iDivine: depends whats inside
[07:27] <Roy> I would like to change my screen resolution from 50Hz to 60 Hz but I couldn't find any option. How should I go about it?
[07:28] <nickrud> Jangari: that error gets thrown up from /etc/fstab
[07:28] <iDivine> I downloaded something random, Like a MUD client thingy? IDK, Just wondering, how do I install it.
[07:28] <mooseman447> crdlb i know this is weird but why does it seem the ubuntu boot splash is lower res then usual?
[07:28] <ac1dfr33z3> can someone tell me why when i try to update it says index is broken?
[07:28] <macogw> iDivine: but what kind of file was in the zip when you unzipped it
[07:29] <iDivine> Yeah.
[07:29] <crdlb> mooseman447: no idea, something is apparently different in the grub line for the -generic kernel
[07:29] <iDivine> macogw, Yes
[07:29] <Jangari> nickrud: s/he has an old installation in the menu.lst for a partition that has since been reformatted, that's why the fsch error is coming up
[07:29] <macogw> iDivine: that was a question
[07:29] <Jangari> i suppose
[07:29] <Roy> I would like to change my screen resolution from 50Hz to 60 Hz but I couldn't find any option. How should I go about it?
[07:29] <j> Jangari ya
[07:29] <mooseman447> crdlb i looked but i didnt see anything but i did the update-initramfs from the 7.10 live cd though
[07:29] <iDivine> It was zipped.
[07:29] <nickrud> Jangari: that's for the boot, the fsck at boot is run against /etc/fstab listed partitions iirc
[07:29] <iDivine> Then I unzipped it, and now it's in a folder.
[07:30] <acee1234> im gonna go off to the land of the ethereal for a bit good night and thank you
[07:30] <Jangari> what does iirc stand for?
[07:30] <macogw> iDivine: and what's in it?
[07:30] <ac1dfr33z3>  can someone tell me why when i try to update it says index is broken?
[07:30] <nickrud> Jangari: if i recall correctly
[07:30] <crdlb> Roy: nvidia?
[07:30] <Jangari> ah
[07:30] <Roy> crdlb: Yes, Nvidia
[07:30] <paranoid_ndroid> hello, I'd like to automate some things in ubuntu. is it possible to send text to specified fields on several webpages?
[07:30] <macogw> iDivine: a .run? .sh? .deb?
[07:30] <blunted> Hey there my sound card isn't working under ubuntu 7.10.  It's a Visi Qsound. Thunderbird 128. (x wave)  I can't find helpful google results.
[07:30] <iDivine> doc folder, plugins
[07:30] <iDivine> No run, no sh, no deb
[07:30] <Jangari> well to be neat, j should probably remove those lines from both the menu.lst and the fstab, right?
[07:30] <crdlb> Roy: don't worry about it, the nvidia driver lies about the refreshrate
[07:30] <MrSiebel> Can someone tell me how to cd in windows commnad to C:/program files
[07:30] <Roy> Oh!
[07:30] <iDivine> Can't I do it in a terminal?
[07:31] <macogw> MrSiebel: you use cd...
[07:31] <macogw> iDivine: yes
[07:31] <nickrud> ac1dfr33z3: put the complete output from   sudo apt-get update  in a terminal to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:31] <Roy> crdlb: Thanks :)
[07:31] <crdlb> Roy: if you want it to report your actual refresh rate, disable dynamic twinview, and you can see your actual refresh rate in nvidia-settings now
[07:31] <MrSiebel> I know but cd won't take "C:/Program Files" to be valid
[07:31] <iDivine> What's the command, thingy ;D!
[07:31] <macogw> iDivine: are there a bunch of files in the directory or just one?
[07:31] <iDivine> Files, in the folder.
[07:31] <iDivine> Bunch.
[07:31] <blunted> Can anyone help find why my sound card works in windows and not ubuntu?
[07:31] <macogw> MrSiebel: windows is stupid. it uses backslashes.
[07:31] <j> Jangari i'm listening. which those lines?
[07:31] <j_humphrey> My top bar with the minimize/maximize/close is gone, how did i do that?
[07:31] <macogw> iDivine: is one named "configure"?
[07:31] <Jangari> it's really only an aesthetic issue though, it's throwing up an error only because it can't see an operating system that isn't there anymore, and for good reason
[07:32] <iDivine> config.rpath
[07:32] <iDivine> config.h.in
[07:32] <Jangari> before you do anything j, i want to get support from one of the more knowledgeable people here,
[07:32] <macogw> iDivine: is there one that's *just* "configure"?
[07:32] <iDivine> WAIT, there is a INSTALLsh
[07:32] <MrSiebel> I know it is macogw, I'm trying to install vmware and I cant change the dir to c:/Program Files
[07:32] <macogw> iDivine: or maybe one called "autogen"?
[07:32] <iDivine> install-sh
[07:32] <nickrud> Jangari: have him show you his /etc/fstab
[07:32] <macogw> iDivine: oh ok use that
[07:32] <macogw> iDivine: sudo ./INSTALL.sh
[07:33] <macogw> iDivine: or whatever...it's case sensitive, put ./ at the front of it
[07:33] <Jangari> j, open another teminal, type gedit "/etc/fstab" copy the whole thing and pastbin it
[07:33] <mooseman447> crdlb i think i install the 386 image with a live cd so apt-get didnt remove it but is it alright if i just remove the lines for it from my menu.lst manually?
[07:33] <iDivine> k
[07:33] <nickrud> ohhh, random software installed willy nilly, I love it :)
[07:33] <ynef> blunted: run this command: "lspci | grep audio" and then google your specific sound card model to see if anyone else has any problems with it (or rather -- solutions to those problems)
[07:33] <Dr_willis> MrSiebel,  with space sin the file name you need to quote the  thing.
[07:33] <Dr_willis> MrSiebel,  cd "program files"
[07:33] <_Oz_> what's the alternative to automatix, again?
[07:33] <Jangari> gedit, simply because i don't want you to accidentally put in line breaks, which can be disasterous
[07:33] <ynef> blunted: ...in a terminal, that is
[07:33] <Jangari> and pico tends to do that
[07:33] <_Oz_> something that lets me download the restricted stuff?
[07:33] <Dr_willis> _Oz_,  use medibuntu repos
[07:34] <Dr_willis> !medibuntu | _Oz_
[07:34] <ubotu> _Oz_: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[07:34] <macogw> _Oz_: ubuntu-restricted-extras is in Applications -> Add/Remove
[07:34] <crdlb> mooseman447: yes, but be sure to read the comments at the top of the file to see how to do it properly
[07:34] <Jangari> hmm, bugger
[07:34] <Dr_willis> the ubuntu-restricted-extras installs some standard stuff you proberly want.  Not from the mediabuntu repos however. :)
[07:34] <Jangari> oh well, his/her system isn't in danger or anthing
[07:34] <mkbernard> is it possible to have a script that runs for all users in a certaint GID?
[07:34] <Jangari> just untidy
[07:34] <nickrud> Jangari: you're right about that
[07:34] <iDivine> it's not .sh it's -sh for some reason.
[07:35] <iDivine> And it said' command not found'.
[07:35] <Jangari> and s/he may have issues with grub/fstab later when reformatting that partition to be something useful
[07:35] <macogw> iDivine: are you in the same directory as the installer file?
[07:35] <Jangari> oh, he back
[07:35] <blunted> ynef: THe results are: 02:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: VLSI Technology Inc QSound ThunderBird PCI Audio (rev 19) .  Thats more than 10 words. Could you please recommend a google search term?
[07:35] <nickrud> yes. uuid's complicate things to make things simpler ;)
[07:35] <iDivine> No, how Would I do that?
[07:35] <sputnick> hi
[07:35] <j> jangari http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55448/
[07:36] <mkbernard> is there a script that runs anytime someone logs in
[07:36] <_Oz_> thanks
[07:36] <ynef> blunted: "QSound ThunderBird" ubuntu
[07:36] <_Oz_> medibuntu
[07:36] <_Oz_> should have remembered that
[07:36] <_Oz_> memory is going
[07:36] <sputnick> I don't have /etc/inittab on gutsy. are you ?
[07:36] <blunted> ynef: Thanks
[07:36] <Jangari> j, close the terminal with the menu.lst, just to be safe, don't edit it at all
[07:36] <nickrud> sputnick: replaced by /etc/event.d
[07:36] <iDivine> Macogw, No, how Would I do that?
[07:36] <sputnick> thanks nickrud
[07:36] <j> jangari http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55448/ ok
[07:36] <JangMunho> mkbernard:just copy one in /usr/bin, and add the script in /etc/profile
[07:37] <macogw> iDivine: cd to wherever it is
[07:37] <Jangari> yep, there's that sda1 line,
[07:37] <macogw> iDivine: if you type "ls" you can get a listing of what's where you are
[07:37] <dialup> anyone alive in here that can help me out?
[07:37] <iDivine> Macogw, K.
[07:37] <dialup> suppose so =p
[07:37] <mkbernard> jangmunho: /etc/profile runs at every login correct?
[07:37] <nemilar> dialup: there's /always/ people here
[07:38] <nickrud> dialup: the channels a little low tonight actually
[07:38] <bazhang> dialup: define 'alive'
[07:38] <dialup> i just downloaded ubuntu 7.10 twice, checked md5, passed, checked cd integrity, passed...but every time i start / install, soon as it starts initiallizing the GUI it goes to some text screen
[07:38] <ynef> blunted: ...and googling like that, it seems like a hard-to-solve problem :-(
[07:38] <JangMunho> mkbernard: yes...
[07:38] <dialup> but doesnt do anything more
[07:38] <Dr_willis> it is 3am in the USA :)
[07:38] <blunted> ynef: that's what I saw too
[07:38] <nickrud> Dr_willis: you don't live in the usa, you live on the east coast
[07:38] <iDivine> macogw, I seem to see desktop, But the cd /desktop doesn't seem not to work?
[07:38] <macogw> dialup: did you try safe graphics mode
[07:39] <dialup> not yet
[07:39] <mkbernard> jangmunho: thanks a bunch!
[07:39] <macogw> iDivine: case sensitive
[07:39] <nemilar> iDivine: cd ~/Desktop
[07:39] <Dr_willis> actually im In Indiana
[07:39] <ynef> blunted: can you try something for me? just write "alsamixer" in a terminal -- what happens?
[07:39] <JangMunho> mkbernard: wait
[07:39] <phenom> Guys off hand, does any one know if you say, run a chan limit bot; and a netsplit occurs; and the bots drops limit in lieu of netsplit.. Will the server force the people to rejoin or will it bump heads with the chan limit?
[07:39] <phenom> Any one know off hand?
[07:39] <nickrud> one of those counties that doesn't change the time?
[07:39] <macogw> iDivine: oh yeah and your home drive is in /home/you/ so putting /desktop would be way different than /home/you/Desktop/
[07:40] <Dr_willis> nickrud,  we have some Counties in this state that change,, and some that dont.. and some that change the other way....
[07:40] <dialup> ill try doing the safe mode option
[07:40] <dialup> brb
[07:40] <Dr_willis> nickrud,  you dont want to know  the details of that.. heh. :)
[07:40] <iDivine> Oooooh/
[07:40] <nickrud> Dr_willis: yeah, I could never keep them straight
[07:40] <iDivine> So, what would be the whole code?
[07:40] <macogw> Dr_willis: dont some of the counties just change time zones?
[07:40] <Dr_willis> some change time 'zones' so they dont change times...
[07:40] <Dr_willis> thei never touch their clocks.
[07:40] <mkbernard> jangmunho: whats up?
[07:40] <nickrud> Dr_willis: I've learned to ask people in indiana to tell me, not the time to call but +hours to call :)
[07:41] <blunted> ynef: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[07:41] <JangMunho> Just try if that works for X. I know it works for shell. (It should works..)
[07:41] <ynef> blunted: figured as much :-(
[07:41] <j> jangari so any clue what should i remove or edit?
[07:42] <Alexander> Привет
[07:42] <thechitowncubs> what are some fun things to do with a home network?
[07:42] <bazhang> !ru
[07:42] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[07:42] <nickrud> !ru | Alexander
[07:42] <ubotu> Alexander: please see above
[07:42] <mkbernard> jangmunho: does it only launch when you open a term/con or does it run at login regardless?
[07:42] <ash_> what would be the best fs for storing 700mb~ files
[07:42] <Dr_willis> thechitowncubs,  use xming on a windows box.. so you can see apps runnin gon your linux box under windows. :)
[07:42] <bazhang> thechitowncubs: media server but offtopic here
 tmpfs XD
[07:43] <nickrud> loa: you are evil ;0
[07:43] <loa> ))
[07:43] <ash_> haha i don't think i have enough ram
[07:44] <nickrud> ash_: any would do, I think I read somewhere that xfs is good for large files, you might want to check tat
[07:44] <ash_> i was thinking XFS
[07:44] <ash_> ohh sweet
[07:44] <loa> yes
[07:44] <loa> xfs good for many small files
[07:45] <ash_> what defines small lol
[07:45] <loa> for example file sharing hostings
[07:45] <loa> picture hosting
[07:45] <bullgard4> What is the function of kacpid? It seems not to be documented in the kernel documentation.
[07:45] <ash_> ahh, i just wanna store some cd images and what not and access the fast.
[07:45] <mkbernard> i had ext3 for a small group of drives with about 5.5t with full journaling
[07:45] <macogw> iDivine: by the way, you can type the first couple letters of file or directory names and hit tab, and itll fill in the rest, so you can avoid tedious copying
[07:45] <ash_> nothing on the drive will be under 600mb
[07:46] <iDivine> Cool, thanks.
[07:46] <j> jangari are you there
[07:47] <evil_tech> anyone using Synergy?
[07:47] <nickrud> j he seems to have left for the moment. I see from your pastebin that you still have sda1 listed there from before your reformatting. Did you set up a file system on sda1 yet?
[07:47] <JangMunho> mkbernard: what command do you wanna run when login?
[07:48] <starked> badkitty: Hey, we just talked about reinstalling Ubuntu a few minutes ago.  Apparently, the LiveCD now works great with my computer -- it's got a GUI and the internet's working fine.  Only thing is, I was wondering if you could help me figure out which disk Ubuntu thinks is hd0, and which it thinks is hd1.  Weird, I know, but it's important.  Any help?
[07:48] <mkbernard> jangmuno: a pl, but only for certain gid
[07:48] <nemilar> starked: are they different in size?
[07:48] <starked> nemilar: Yes
[07:49] <starked> nemilar: I just don't know where exactly to list them
[07:49] <j> nickrud ok . /dev/sda1 is remove it suppose to be old partition off ubuntu , 2nd is /dev/sda2 with linux-swap then /dev/sda3 which i'm runnning right now
[07:49] <iDivine> Ew, Thug-Life ;P
[07:49] <nemilar> starked: if they're mounted, run 'df -h' in a terminal and it will tell you the sizes
[07:50] <JangMunho> mkbernard: certain gid? so you should try to place the command in a .bashrc file rather /etc/profile, because that works for everyone, not certain gid...
[07:50] <nemilar> starked: if not, fdisk -l
[07:50] <j> nickrud i want to resolve this quickly b/c it pass my bed time .
[07:50] <macogw> starked: whichever its calling sda should be hd0
[07:50] <ynef> starked: sure, try this: open a terminal (it's in applications, accessories or something like that) and type "cd /media" then "mkdir test" then "sudo mount /dev/sda0 test" then "ls test" to see what wound up there -- when you've established what the contents is, write "sudo umount test"
[07:50] <nickrud> j to get rid of the error about fsck, you would comment out (put a # at the beginning of line 8
[07:50] <Jangari> sorry j, had a little business to attend to
[07:50] <macogw> starked: and if they're not mounted, fdisk -l will also tell you
[07:51] <macogw> starked: it wont tell you in sensible numbers, but bigger number of cylinders = bigger disk
[07:51] <mkbernard> jangmunho: i can have the script check to make sure its the correct gid (id -u) but i just need to know whether /etc/profile runs only when a term/con is opened or at actual login
[07:51] <Jangari> and looks like nickrud has it sorted
[07:51] <j> nickrud, Jangari line 8
[07:51] <starked> nemilar, macogw, ynef: Thanks for all of that, I just wanted to be sure that sda was always hd0.  Last time something weird happened and GRUB got installed on my external hard drive
[07:51] <nemilar> mkbernard: only on login shells
[07:51] <starked> nemilar, macogw, ynef: So thank you, that's all I needed -- bye!
[07:51] <j> nickrud, Jangari line 8 ???/
[07:51] <nemilar> mkbernard: /etc/bash.bashrc for interactive (non-login) shells
[07:52] <Jangari> yep, line 8 in the fstab, the one that starts UUID=18ba4b11
[07:52] <ynef> starked: ah, ok -- are you running some sort of RAID? that might fuck it up too
[07:52] <mkbernard> meliar: what do you mean login/non-login shells?
[07:52] <nickrud> j   in a terminal, type:   gksudo gedit /etc/fstab , and put a # at the beginning of the line that has UUID=18ba4b11-4d98-485b-8461-675b5a08b271 /media/sda1  in it. (line 8 of the pastebin)
[07:52] <j> nickrud, Jangari not the menu.lst
[07:52] <Jangari> put a # so that it reads: #UUID=18ba4b11-4d98-485b-8461-675b5a08b271 /media/sda1     ext3    defaults        0       2
[07:52] <starked> ynef: No, it was probably something I did that did it, not Ubuntu's fault. I had kind of a weird install
[07:52] <nickrud> j no, that's another issue
[07:52] <nemilar> mkbernard: opening a new terminal doesn't necessarily count as a login
[07:52] <Jangari> we'll get to the menu.lst soon
[07:52] <ynef> starked: ok then :-) well, best of luck on this attempt :-)
[07:53] <starked> ynef: Thanks :)
[07:53] <mooseman447> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg only changes /etc/X11/xorg.conf right?
[07:53] <nickrud> mooseman447: yes
[07:53] <JangMunho> mkbernard: Just have a try, use a command (like mkdir) to see if you have the new folder when you login. (Sorry that i've not tried that before.)
[07:53] <mkbernard> namilar: exactly. all i want is a script to run one time, each time any user logs in
[07:53] <Jangari> in fact you needn't necessarily bother about the menu.lst, but for elegance, best to remove superfluous lines
[07:54] <mkbernard> nemilar: i already have the script, i just need to set it to run, and i need to know which file should point to it
[07:54] <nemilar> mkbernard: /etc/profile only runs on logins
[07:54] <nickrud> j as Jangari says, it's a nicety to fix up grub.  When you're done with editing /etc/fstab , run   sudo update-grub , that will fix it up nicely
[07:54] <mkbernard> nemilar: does that per chance also catch ssh logs?
[07:54] <nemilar> mkbernard: but if a user does 'sudo -i' it will simulate a login shell, as well (and run /etc/profile)
[07:54] <j> nickrud, Jangari http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55449/
[07:54] <nemilar> mkbernard: sshing is logging in, yeah
[07:55] <Jangari> that's what you want, j
[07:55] <mkbernard> nemilar: is it so sudo will exec my script also?
[07:55] <Davo_Dinkum> How would I install ubuntu on a laptop with no CD drive? I have a protege M200 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/ToshibaPortegeM200
[07:55] <nickrud> j perfect
[07:55] <Jangari> nickrud: will update-grub fix menu.lst based on fstab?
[07:55] <nickrud> !install | Davo_Dinkum there's several ways here
[07:55] <ubotu> Davo_Dinkum there's several ways here: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[07:55] <nemilar> mkbernard: sudo will normally not do a login shell, but 'sudo -i' will simulate a login and run /etc/profile
[07:55] <j> nickrud, Jangari http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55450/
[07:55] <nickrud> Jangari: based on what's on the actual partitions
[07:55] <mkbernard> namilar: in turn execing my script, yea?
[07:56] <nemilar> mkbernard: correct
[07:56] <nickrud> j looks good
[07:56] <macogw> starked: the weird thing was probably that you had the external set to boot first and so it was considered hd0 by the bios even though its sdb by virtue of being external
[07:56] <j> nickrud, Jangari swwweeet
[07:56] <mkbernard> nemilar: is it possible to check for the owner of the shell process to make sure its not forked from sudo?
[07:56] <Jangari> better paste for us the main lines of the menu.lst, to be sure
[07:56] <nemilar> mkbernard: from inside the process, you can do 'whoami'
[07:56] <Jangari> oh nickrud, right, that's good to know
[07:56] <j> nickrud, Jangari So if i restart it would run normally
[07:57] <Jangari> try it, j, can't do any harm
[07:57] <nickrud> j Jangari is right, it won't hurt to pastebin the /boot/grub/menu.lst first
[07:57] <starked> Interesting -- the installer just failed.  All right, well maybe I can get some general help, then.  I'm running from a LiveCD, because I want to reinstall Ubuntu (6.04, I messed it up with Beryl and old ATI drivers).  Anyways, I have a laptop with Vista installed on the internal, 120GB hard drive, and I'm wanting to install Ubuntu on my 500GB external USB hard drive.  Specifically, I currently have it so that the first 430GB or so are a "data" p
[07:57] <nemilar> mkbernard: I don't really understand the question.. you want to make sure that a shell doesn't start as root because of your changes in /etc/profile?  that's not something you really have to worry about (unless you're doing something insane)
[07:57] <Jangari> but yes, pastebin us the grub first
[07:58] <mkbernard> nemilar: no no, you just mentioned the sudo -i thing, and i was thinking about a workaround
[07:58] <mkbernard> nemilar: in truth its not really that big of a deal
[07:58] <Jangari> holy sh|t, someone without any background knowledge of this room, pastebin, ubuntu, etc., would have serious trouble parsing that last sentence
[07:58] <nemilar> mkbernard: ahh I see
[07:58] <mkbernard> nemilar: its just a login script, a basic one at that
[07:58] <sigma> How do I set up Emerald as my main window manager?
[07:58] <sigma> its installed, I just need to switch to it
[07:59] <starked> Basically what I want to do is delete the old root in the manual partitioner to make it "free space," and then install my new root in the same spot, but with a wiped filesystem.  Any idea?
[07:59] <nemilar> mkbernard: sounds like /etc/profile is what you want
[07:59] <j> nickrud, Jangari http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55451/ ^_^
[07:59] <mkbernard> nemilar: perfect
[07:59] <Jangari> hmm, it's still there
[08:00] <nickrud> j it didn't remove those stanzas because they are below the END AUTOMAGIC line
[08:00] <mkbernard> nemilar: i can use id -u from the script to check the GID correct?
[08:00] <macogw> Jangari: hehe isnt that how most geek jargon works?
[08:00] <Jangari> i suppose so
[08:00] <j> nickrud, Jangari ....
[08:00] <mkbernard> nemilar: eventually the script /should/ only run for a particular set of GID
[08:01] <macogw> sigma: for use with gnome or on its own?
[08:01] <Jangari> macogw: i remember reading a lengthy blog post about someone attempting to parse the term "won't fixing"
[08:01] <sigma> sigma: with gnome
[08:01] <nickrud> j  gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst , and remove those lines
[08:01] <sigma> er...
[08:01] <macogw> sigma: oops i read that as enlightenment
[08:01] <sigma> macogw: with gnome
[08:01] <sigma> dude...
[08:01] <sigma> yeah, you confused me now
[08:01] <nemilar> mkbernard: well, if you run 'id -u' from inside /etc/profile, it's going to come back with 0, because it's run as root
[08:01] <Jangari> j, did you actually reformat that partition?
[08:01] <j> nickrud, Jangari which lines?
[08:01] <sigma> anyways, any idea?
[08:01] <mooseman447> does anybody know why my ubuntu 7.10 boot splash seems very slow res
[08:01] <macogw> sigma: umm anyway, emerald is the window decorator. the window manager would be compiz or beryl
[08:01] <j> nickrud, jangari ok . /dev/sda1 recently removed it suppose to be old partition off ubuntu , 2nd is /dev/sda2 with linux-swap then /dev/sda3 which i'm runnning right now
[08:02] <nickrud> j all the lines below ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
[08:02] <macogw> sigma: are you using it with compiz or beryl, then?
[08:02] <nemilar> mkbernard: ahh actually nevermind that, my bad
[08:02] <sigma> macogw: yes, window decorator, sorry
[08:02] <starked> When I try to set it up as described above, it says: File system doesn't have expected sizes for Windows to like it. Cluster size is 2k (1k expected); number of clusters is 28034 (55960 expected); size of FATs is 110 sectors (219 expected).
[08:02] <mkbernard> nemilar: execed by user?
[08:02] <nemilar> mkbernard: it will give the gid of the user, not root, just ignore I said that
[08:02] <sigma> and yes, with compiz
[08:02] <j> nickrud, jangari including "### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST"?
[08:02] <nickrud> j no, keep that one
[08:02] <mkbernard> nemilar: yay! then im in good shape
[08:02] <macogw> sigma: does compiz keep reverting to gtk window decorator?
[08:02] <Jangari> j, this is what you should be left with: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55452/
[08:02] <mkbernard> nemilar: you have been a world of help, thank you so much
[08:02] <macogw> sigma: do you have the compizconfig settings manager (ccsm) installed?
[08:03] <nemilar> mkbernard: :) no problem
[08:03] <mkbernard> nemilar: see ya around
[08:03] <nemilar> peace
[08:03] <macogw> sigma: of course as i reach for the panel to open it up i realize i dont have compiz on this computer...
[08:03] <sigma> macogw: I have the ccsm installed, I installed Emerald, I just dunno how to activate it
[08:03] <starked> When I get past the partition screen and move on to the actual install, I get "The ext3 file system creation in partition #5 of SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sdb) failed."
[08:03] <sigma> aand that sucks :P
[08:03] <Ashnal> Dr_willis: hah! I got it to start compiling in dosbox
[08:03] <starked> Any help?
[08:03] <macogw> sigma: in the window management settings,  think there should be an option for it
[08:04] <nickrud> sigma: alt-f2  emerald --replace
[08:04] <macogw> sigma: otherwise in "general" a part about what to auto-run when compiz loads?  put in "emerald --replace"
[08:04] <j> nickrud, jangari do i need do a special key to save or exit?
[08:04] <Jangari> oh, you're in gedit, right?
[08:04] <nickrud> j no, just use the file->save
[08:04] <sigma> woohoo!
[08:04] <sigma> thanks
[08:04] <nickrud> j or ctl-s , that saves also
[08:04] <sigma> just to have it at hand, just in case... how do I revert?
[08:05] <macogw> sigma: gtk-window-decorator --replace
[08:05] <Jangari> i don't think gedit will let you save a file system file
[08:05] <j> nickrud, jangari but i doing this in termenial?
[08:05] <sigma> macogw: thanks
[08:05] <Jangari> oh, you are?
[08:05] <macogw> sigma: this just means i play with compiz settings too often, you know
[08:06] <Jangari> if you're using pico, press ctrl+x, it'll prompt you to save changes, press 'y'(es)
[08:06] <j> nickrud, jangari how do i fix this in txt
[08:06] <Devoust> hello all.
[08:06] <nickrud> j you should have run the command I gave you in the terminal,   gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst . That opens in a gui text editor (gedit by name) , then you edit and save with file->save
[08:06] <Devoust> Im on a windows box right now
[08:06] <starked> Anybody have any ideas about the above?  I've basically got no idea what to do here.
[08:06] <macogw> sigma: for 2 weeks ive been using fluxbox, not compiz, because im on an old lappy
[08:06] <Devoust> Im trying to install Ubuntu
[08:06] <JangMunho>  starked: It seems that we donnot actually understand the question (too long) ^_^
[08:06] <Devoust> and Im having an issue
[08:06] <j> nickrud, jangari DONE
[08:06] <macogw> Devoust: explain the issue, please
[08:06] <sigma> macogw: fluxbox is nice for when you really need to concentrate.... its perfect for those long all-nighters doing 10 page essays
[08:06] <starked> JangMunho: Basically, it won't let me get rid of my old ext3 root filesystem and replace it with a new one
[08:06] <Jangari> past it again
[08:07] <j> nickrud, jangari should i restart my computer to double check
[08:07] <Jangari> paste*
[08:07] <Devoust> I want to do a dual boot with windows aswell..and when I load off the cd I run the installer
[08:07] <Devoust> I dont know what to do when it loads the partitioner
[08:07] <moad> hello mates , anyone succeeded in using www.chinswing.com with linux ?
[08:07] <nickrud> j pastebin both menu.lst and /etc/fstab , just for certaintly
[08:07] <JangMunho> starked: so what software did you use for partition operation?
[08:07] <russ> kmg still there?
[08:07] <nickrud> *certainty
[08:08] <j> nickrud, jangari http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55453/
[08:08] <macogw> Devoust: dont use the manual partitioner.  there should be an option to use the unused space on the drive for ubuntu instead of doing manual partitioning
[08:08] <starked> JangMunho: I'm using the partition manager built into the installer for the Ubuntu 7.10 install CD
[08:08] <Devoust> yeah theres one that says Guided
[08:08] <macogw> Devoust: if you *want* to use it, i can explain it, but if you just want a basic dual boot, you dont need it
[08:08] <j> nickrud, jangari http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55454/
[08:08] <Devoust> but on that aspect aswell I have windows in that space as I have no other partitions
[08:08] <Devoust> will is create one for itself
[08:08] <Devoust> or will it overwrite what I already have on that drive?
[08:08] <nickrud> j good to boot
[08:09] <macogw> Devoust: itd shrink the windows partition and use the empty space to put an ubuntu partition
[08:09] <JangMunho> starked: donnot use the partition manager in the installation wizard, just try system->management->gparted
[08:09] <Grandpajoe> Morning all, anyone here good with mounting drives and fstab?  I'm having a hell of a time mounting an sd card on my laptop.
[08:09] <j> nickrud, jangari alright i restart and let u guys now if it runs normal
[08:09] <j> nickrud, jangari thanks
[08:09]  * nickrud goes to hide
[08:09] <nickrud> :)
[08:10] <russ> The most bizarre thing. I have both kde and gnome. when I logged into this channel while using kde it showed only 40 users, no I'm back in gnome and there are 1099 users
[08:10] <mkbernard> nemilar: one more question, is it possible to remotely log a user our? should i just do a pkill -15 -u /uer/
[08:10] <Grandpajoe> thats because gnome is more popular
[08:10] <starked> JangMunho: So if I get rid of my two partitions, it should automatically add a new option in the installer to let me use the free space, right?
[08:10] <Grandpajoe> ;)
[08:10] <nemilar> mkbernard: you can just kill their login
[08:10] <mkbernard> nemilar: log a user* out
[08:11] <mkbernard> nemilar: whats the easiest way to kill their login? pkill -u /user/ ?
[08:11] <russ> Grandpajoe you mean the IRC channel actually detects whether I'm using kde or gnome??
[08:11] <Starnestommy> russ: it can't
[08:11] <nemilar> mkbernard: yeah I suppose that works, it'll kill all their processes though, I think
[08:11] <nickrud> russ: most of us have our clients set to hide from kde apps
[08:11] <Jangari> with those grub options, he probably has to wait a full ten second before it boots,
[08:12] <russ> nickrud why, don't you like kde apps?
[08:12] <Jangari> with only one OS, i'd enable hiddenmenu
[08:12] <binskipy2u> anyone using ubuntu ultimate?
[08:12] <mkbernard> nemilar: is their a safer way?
[08:12] <JangMunho> starked: not option, but you should have a window in which you can make new partition very easy (like pqmagic)
[08:12] <nickrud> russ: it was a joke, can't be done :)
[08:12] <Jangari> j, any issues?
[08:12] <starked> JangMunho: Ok, thanks
[08:13] <russ> nickrud so far I think I like gnome better. kde is too much like windows
[08:13] <toly> Easy Partitioning: GParted: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
[08:13] <JangMunho> starked: Just try gparted, you will like it...
[08:13] <j> Jangari it run perfectly ._.
[08:13] <j> Jangari thank you ^_^
[08:13] <Jangari> good
[08:13] <Grandpajoe> fdisk is so nice for partitioning
[08:13] <Jangari> no worries,
[08:13] <starked> JangMunho: I've used it before, I'm just afraid I'm going to kill my hard-drive, :P
[08:13] <_Oz_> yeah, I'd have to say gnome is a tad better than kde
[08:13] <j> Jangari j *hugs* Jangari
[08:14] <Jangari> ha
[08:14] <nickrud> russ: for me, I used gnome to learn compiling and how linux is put together, I've just stuck with it through inertia
[08:14] <_Oz_> plus, since it is the most common desktop, everything works in it
[08:14] <j> Jangari alright thanks now i can finally get some sleep . night
[08:14] <Jangari> night
[08:14] <JangMunho> starked: So you mean gparted failed to make a new partition?
[08:14] <Jangari> and i can get some dinner
[08:14] <_Oz_> question, speaking of file systems: if you were going to download some desktop wallpapers and wanted to store them permanently, where would you create the directory to put them?
[08:14]  * Jangari saunters out for food
[08:14] <redmonkey> hi. this is weird: /dev/sda8 on /media/sdb8 type ext3 (rw). why is my sdA8 mounted as sdB8? any ideas?
[08:14] <russ> but nickrud, seriously, how on earth could the irc channel show a different user set depending on which desktop you're using?
[08:15] <Grandpajoe> Anyone here running gnome on an eee?
[08:15] <nickrud> russ: are you sure the kde app didn't drop you into kubuntu?
[08:15] <Jangari> _Oz_: i don't know if they're kept in directory, but you just drag drop them to the change wallpaper window
[08:15] <starked> JangMunho: I tried right-clicking the ext3 partition in gparted and hitting "delete" to free up the space, but it failed and said to unmount any partitions with logical numbers greater than 5 (or something similar to that).  So I opened up "Computer" and unmounted the "disk" partition the LiveCD added, and then gparted crashed when I tried to refresh the devices.  I started back up again, and now all of sdb is shown as unallocated disk space :(
[08:15] <Jangari> i keep mine in /data/Pictures/Backgrounds
[08:16] <russ> nickrud well yeah, I guess - when I boot my machine now it says "kubuntu" on the splash screen
[08:16] <nickrud> _Oz_: and i keep mine in .backgrounds
[08:16] <nickrud> !usplash | russ
[08:16] <ubotu> russ: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[08:17] <Jangari> nickrud: is that for a splash during boot?
[08:17] <JangMunho> starked: Oh, that's terrible, it seems that the partition table was destroyed...
[08:17] <nickrud> Jangari: yes
[08:17] <Jangari> sweet
[08:17] <starked> JangMunho: I figured I'd end up doing something like this, :/  Any chance of me fixing it?
[08:17] <Jangari> so much to learn
[08:17] <russ> nickrud but when I connect to the IRC channel and the channel name is #ubuntu how could that care? just curious, seems bizarre to me
[08:18] <Darkmystere> Why is it that i have to Set monitoring mode everytime i try and use a feature of the aircrack-ng suite that requires monitoring mode?
[08:18] <_Oz_> /home/.backgrounds?
[08:18] <insta> hey guys ... i've got gutsy, mplayer, and libdvdcss2 ... a dvd i'm trying to play can't be decrypted (reported from dvdread).  any ideas?
[08:18] <nickrud> russ: that would be bizarre. No clue, maybe you hit a server that was netsplit at tht time
[08:18] <_Oz_> why the .backgrounds instead of backgrounds?
[08:18] <Davo_Dinkum> !css
[08:18] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[08:18] <insta> Davo_Dinkum: yeah i have libdvdcss2
[08:18] <JangMunho> starked: just don't make any new partition, and use some software to rebuild the partition table, otherwise all the data will be lost.
[08:18] <Jangari> _Oz_: folders with . before them are hidden
[08:18] <nickrud> _Oz_: /home/me/.backgrounds
[08:19] <insta> i just found one that it can't decrypt for whatever reason
[08:19] <mkbernard> is it possible to make sshd listen on multiple ports, or do i have to have multiple sshd running?
[08:19] <Jangari> if you open a terminal and type ls -al, it'll show all the folders and files, including the hidden ones
[08:19] <nickrud> _Oz_: I hide it so it doesn't show up when I do ls ~
[08:19] <insta> mkbernard: why would you want to do that?
[08:19] <Davo_Dinkum> insta: try vlc
[08:19] <Davo_Dinkum> !vlc
[08:19] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[08:19] <Davo_Dinkum> !VLC
[08:19] <insta> Davo_Dinkum: it couldn't do it either
[08:19] <Jangari> !codecs
[08:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:20] <mkbernard> insta: because i want to have a special port for sshd to listen on that will be forwarded by my router
[08:20] <Darkmystere> Do any Belkin based cards work with Ubuntu i have a Belkin b/g Plus usb deviced hanging around and ubuntu doesnt seem to respond when i put it in >.>
[08:20] <JangMunho> starked: Try testdisk, it should work for you...
[08:20] <mkbernard> insta: so only that particular server will respond to a ssh req on that port
[08:21] <insta> mkbernard: it just sounds like you're doing something backwards, i guess :/
[08:21] <mkbernard> insta: why? what would you do?
[08:21] <JangMunho> starked: Everytime before you have a partition operation, make sure you've used dd command to backup the partition table...
[08:22] <insta> you want ssh listening on port 22 and port (hypothetically) 8191 from your router?
[08:22] <_evert_> Hi all
[08:22] <Grandpajoe> Hey
[08:22] <starked> JangMunho: That's going on a stickynote on the wall next to me from now on, :P
[08:22] <_evert_> I'm having a little problem, i've just downloaded ubuntu server 7.10, but it keeps giving me a cd-error at the beginning of the installation
[08:22] <_evert_> running the 'cd check' is giving me the same error
[08:23] <insta> _evert_: burn it slower
[08:23] <mkbernard> insta: well, 8191 would be forwarded to my server by my router, and the only thing on my server listening on that port would be ssh
[08:23] <_evert_> I've checked the downloaded iso and burned it twice (at a lower speed)
[08:23] <Starnestommy> _evert_: sounds like a bad burn or a corrupt iso
[08:23] <insta> mkbernard: you can make almost all routers forward external port 8191 to internal port 22
[08:23] <mkbernard> insta: it makes that server visible from outside the network
[08:23] <Jangari> burn it with a different drive?
[08:23] <_evert_> i have only one drive
[08:23] <dragon> can someone tell me if this is the right command to install americas army
[08:23] <dragon> sudo sh ./armyops<version>-linux.run
[08:23] <_evert_> i'm using it on my desktop to burn and then in my server to install ubuntu server there
[08:24] <Slart> dragon: could be..
[08:24] <mkbernard> insta: i realize that, but i have multiple servers with sshd running, i want it to forward external requests to a specific server
[08:24] <_evert_> is there any easy way to install it over my network ?
[08:24] <dragon> im fallowing the guide http://linux.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=linux&cdn=compute&tm=15&f=00&su=p284.8.150.ip_&tt=2&bt=1&bts=1&zu=https%3A//help.ubuntu.com/community/AmericasArmy
[08:24] <insta> mkbernard:  port forwarding has to point to a specific IP inside the firewall
[08:24] <Jangari> can someone tell me how to automatically mount a server via sshfs on startup, or login?
[08:24] <insta> i still think it would work ...
[08:25] <Slart> dragon: I don't know if the filename is correct.. but the rest looks reasonable
[08:25] <dragon> exept it keeps saying bash: version: No such file or directory
[08:25] <Grandpajoe> Anyone know how to manually mount an SDHC card?
[08:25] <insta> ....
[08:25] <Starnestommy> dragon: replace <version> with the program's version?
[08:25] <insta> dragon: that's awesome
[08:25] <dragon> tried that came up with the same bash error
[08:25] <Slart> dragon: run this, ls | grep -i armyops
[08:25] <Starnestommy> dragon: remove the < and the >
[08:26] <Slart> dragon: and take care to use capital letters correctly etc
[08:26] <Jangari> are you in the right directory, dragon?
[08:26] <starked> JangMunho: Well, on the plus side it looks like testdisk found my partitions
[08:26] <menllyos> i got a problem, i installed OSS 4 to use my xfi, but now im getting 2 errors on startup; one with the deskbar applet and one with the music applet, giving me both error messages looking like this: "The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:Deskbar_Applet"." is there a fix ?
[08:26] <dragon> im not shure lol havent been useing linux very long
[08:26] <mkbernard> insta: i realize that to, but there may or may not be multiple redundant routers internally
[08:26] <starked> JangMunho: I don't suppose you could tell me that exact dd command so I don't screw this up again?
[08:26] <jsoft> My firefox flash stuff has gone to ass.
[08:26] <Slart> dragon: oh.. and yes.. replace <version> with whatever version you downloaded.. ie say you downloaded version 2.74, then you'd run "sudo sh ./armyops2.74-linux.run"
[08:26] <jsoft> Its all jittery when playing youtube videos.
[08:27] <Decinoge> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7Kibeg-Tos
[08:27] <mkbernard> insta: in any case, is it or is it not possible to make ssh listen on multiple ports
[08:27] <insta> mkbernard: is that really the case with your situation?
[08:27] <Decinoge> self propaganda
[08:27] <Grandpajoe> jsoft: what version of flash are you using?
[08:27] <jsoft> mkbernard: yeah you can do that
[08:27] <Decinoge> i am cute as hell
[08:27] <jsoft> Grandpajoe: I dunno.
[08:27] <insta> mkbernard: i don't know that much, and i'm sorry for wasting your time in that case ... it just seemed like there was a better way
[08:27] <jsoft> Oh. It appears to be gnash.
[08:27] <Liet_Kynes> Is anyone available to help troubleshoot   a networking problem
[08:27] <insta> oh, does anyone know why ubuntu server would hang midway through booting?  it dies right on initializing my IDE controller ... which has previously worked
[08:27] <darren> where can i go for help with GOS? I kinda don't even know how I ended up here.
[08:27] <Grandpajoe> jsoft: Go to the adobe flash site, and install their version following their instructions, its been working great for me
[08:27] <jsoft> Which is some buggy version of adbobe flash
[08:28] <mkbernard> insta: its not a waste, im learning about ubuntu, so i think up problems, and your questions help me to reinforce my learning
[08:28] <Slart> jsoft: well.. it an unfinished implementation of flash.. not by adobe.. but open source
[08:28] <JangMunho> starked: dd if=/dev/sda of=~/backup bs=512 count=1
[08:28] <jsoft> yeah. uninstalling it now
[08:28] <mkbernard> insta: in all honesty, i could just forward requests using external/internal port switching as you said, i just wanted to know IF it is possible
[08:28] <insta> mkbernard: i think that unless you were doing some really wild and radical changes between them, you should use something like iptables or your router's config to forward 8191 to port 22, regardless of where it happens
[08:29] <insta> it just seems lie there's less maintenance in that case
[08:29] <starked> JangMunho: Thanks.  Like I said, stickynote :)
[08:29] <insta> :|, ping?
[08:29] <dragon> the files name is armyops250-linux.run
[08:29] <mkbernard> insta: agreed. but look at it from an academic standpoint as far as ssh customization
[08:29] <jsoft> mkbernard: the answer is a 'yeah buy why would you'
[08:30] <Liet_Kynes> Is anyone available to help troubleshoot   a networking problem?
[08:30] <insta> argh
[08:30] <mkbernard> jsoft: curious as to how, thats all
[08:30] <insta> roomie killed network
[08:30] <Starnestommy> dragon: then do sudo sh armyops250-linux.run
[08:30] <insta> brb
[08:30] <jsoft> an academic standpoint? :/
[08:30] <Grandpajoe> Liet_Kynes: what kind of networking problem?
[08:30] <JangMunho> starked: You're welcome. To recovery the partition table, just use dd if=/path/to/backup of=/dev/sda bs=512 skip=446 count=1
[08:30] <chubs730> !anyone | liet_kynes
[08:30] <ubotu> liet_kynes: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:30] <mkbernard> jsoft: learning for the sake of learning, without really having a particular pupose or use for it currently
[08:30] <darren> Hello every one, perhaps I am in the correct place, may I ask what you might think a simple question?
[08:30] <dragon> sh: armyops250-linux.run: No such file or directory is what i got
[08:31] <Starnestommy> dragon: cd to the directory it's in then do that command
[08:31] <chubs730> !ask
[08:31] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[08:31] <Grandpajoe> darren: shoot
[08:31] <Grandpajoe> lol
[08:31] <jsoft> mkbernard: yeah thats the most ineffective way of 'learning' stuff.
[08:31] <darren> Sweet
[08:31] <darren> ok
[08:31] <redmonkey> hi. this is weird: /dev/sda8 on /media/sdb8 type ext3 (rw). why are my sdA partitions mounted as sdB ?
[08:31] <allchemic> hi there, i have problem (probably) with ext3 fs. i need to make iso from dvd, and there is problem when iso file reach 2GiB. Brasero just stop creating file, what should i looking for? mayby some changes in fstab can help? any ideas?
[08:31] <darren> SO im trying to install vm tools inside GOS
[08:31] <Liet_Kynes> my desktop pc doesn't want to connect via network cable to my router anymore
[08:31] <dragon> so i would do cd/home/dragon/desktop?
[08:31] <mkbernard> jsoft: for you maybe, but it gives me something to do
[08:31] <Starnestommy> dragon: /home/dragon/Desktop
[08:31] <darren> But I can not install a .pl file or script
[08:31] <jsoft> mkbernard: ahh huh.
[08:32] <Slart> dragon: since you're new to linux... let's break it down.. sudo is used to run the next command as root (administrator user in linux), you have to be root to install stuff.. sh is a command interpreter and the armyops250-linux.run is like  a windows .bat or .cmd-file that installs the game..
[08:32] <darren> I need a package of some kind I think
[08:32] <Starnestommy> darren: perl?
[08:32] <mkbernard> jsoft: you dont just think up problems then work to fix them?
[08:32] <darren> that sounds correct
[08:32] <starked> JangMunho: Thanks.  I never even realized you could backup the partition table -- I've never really used dd (only read a little about it), but it makes sense now that you mentioned it.  Nifty tool, that.
[08:32] <jsoft> mkbernard: no.
[08:32] <dragon> ok
[08:32] <jsoft> mkbernard: if problems get in my way, _then_ I work on them.
[08:32] <Grandpajoe> Liet_Kynes: When that happens to my users at work I usually have them power down their pc, unplug the network cable, plug it back in (to the back of the pc).  Then Restart the modem and the computer
[08:32] <mkbernard> jsoft: i often end up learning more in the process of going through the motions than just sitting there. for example, i learn the structure of the sshd conf
[08:32] <darren> I searched in the package manager for pearl and allot of stuff came back
[08:33] <jsoft> mkbernard: wow
[08:33] <darren> So I am confused
[08:33] <dragon> so it would be like: sudo cd/home/desktop then that other command?
[08:33] <darren> and so I got IRC and came here .. to ask question of people that know allot more then me about this sort of stuff
[08:33] <jsoft> ugh. sudo.
[08:33] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: I've been having the same experiece with fstab and fdisk.  I had no idea what they did before tonight, now I know too much.
[08:33] <Starnestommy> dragon: no, just cd ~/Desktop, then sudo sh armyops250-linux.run
[08:33] <Slart> dragon: nope.. you don't have to be root to use cd
[08:34] <mkbernard> jsoft: im not the sort to say "it works because it does", i want to know why/how it works
[08:34] <Slart> dragon: just cd ~/Desktop   remember.. capital D.. linux is case sensitive
[08:34] <mkbernard> jsoft: a curious person by nature you might say
[08:34] <jsoft> mkbernard: Ahh huh.
[08:34] <Starnestommy> darren: try sudo apt-get install perl
[08:35] <JangMunho> starked: Yes, it's very useful. you know... dd if=/dev/cdrom of=~/a.iso bs=1M can make an iso image ^_^
[08:35] <mkbernard> grandpajoe: see, you had a problem, and you had to go through the motions of fixing it, and now you have truly learned something
[08:35] <darren> sweet I will try that right now
[08:35] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: Yep, but guess what, Problem still ain't fixed, but hey I learned something
[08:35] <dragon> ok now this is odd i went to my desktop (where the file is atm) and did that sudo sh armyops250-linux.run
[08:35] <mkbernard> grandpajoe: although your problem was probably more critical in nature, whereas my "problem" is largely academic and curiousity driven
[08:35] <darren> apt-get pearl
[08:35] <dragon> and got sh: armyops250-linux.run: No such file or directory
[08:35] <darren> lol
[08:36] <azat_> hi everyone. I would like to install drivers for my cell phone to use gprs connection
[08:36] <Starnestommy> darren: perl, not pearl
[08:36] <starked> JangMunho: Now that's just plain cool.  I could see a lot of problems happening if you messed up the if and of, though >.<
[08:36] <azat_> how I can get drivers for my cell phone (korean sky 8100)?
[08:36] <darren> I not only typed on the wrong screen but I spelled it wrong..
[08:36] <jsoft> mkbernard: what are you actually planning to do with linux? Mince around learning it, or will you be doing something constructive?
[08:36] <darren> years of microsoft windows
[08:36] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: Nah its not critical just annoying.  I have this 16 gb sd card for my eee pc (4 gb, no room!) and the dang thing will just never mount
[08:36] <mkbernard> grandpajoe: it turns out that the first solution is rarely the best/correct one. but like you said, you learned. and now you know empirically from trial and error that what you did did NOT solve your problem
[08:37] <JangMunho> starked: yes, of=/dev/sda can be dangerous
[08:37] <dragon> darren: ha ha same here
[08:37] <darren> says perl is up to date..
[08:37] <Grandpajoe> lol, thats a good way of looking at it
[08:37] <jsoft> *sigh*
[08:37] <mkbernard> darren: perl 5.8.8 or 5.10?
[08:37] <jsoft> i typed a command last night, and it turned out it was _not_ the right command, and I learned from it
[08:37]  * jsoft yawns
[08:38] <azat_> so is there any solution?
[08:38] <darren> just says "newest"
[08:38] <Grandpajoe> JangMunho: I personally love dd if=/dev/zero /dev/sdx   FULL OF ZEROS NOW!
[08:38] <jsoft> whats this perl problem?
[08:38] <jsoft> (besides perl it's self ;)
[08:38] <mkbernard> jsoft: well i am better adjusted to solaris, but in short i basically like to understand some of the intricacies of the system so i can use it more effectively
[08:39] <jsoft> mkbernard: solaris eh. What do you do on solairs? If you use solaris, why are you re-learning how a sshd.conf works?
[08:39] <mkbernard> darren: try perl -v
[08:39] <AHemlocksLie> what's the command to reconfigure xserver?
[08:39] <JangMunho> Grandpajoe: Yes, I'm loving it...
[08:39] <darren> error when I try installing says "bash: vmware-install.pl: command not found
[08:39] <Grandpajoe> Can someone take a look at http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?pid=135401#p135401 and see if I did something obvious
[08:40] <Starnestommy> AHemlocksLie: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:40] <AHemlocksLie> Starnestommy: thanks
[08:40] <Starnestommy> darren: try perl ./vmware-install.pl
[08:40] <mkbernard> jsoft: to be honest, i have never really had to change sshd.conf for anything like this
[08:40]  * jsoft has 30 more passwords to crack :(
[08:40] <jsoft> taking ages
[08:41] <darren> from any directory?
[08:41] <mkbernard> jsoft: so i couldnt do this on solaris. regardless, i am curious
[08:41] <Starnestommy> darren: the directory where that file is
[08:41] <jsoft> mkbernard: you sound like a hyped up geek or something
[08:41] <azat_> in suse it is supported
[08:41] <darren> ohh your sexy!!! that worked
[08:42] <darren> thanks mate
[08:42] <jsoft> trying to be more interested than you really are
[08:42] <Grandpajoe> says the man in a linux chat room on a saturday
[08:42] <dragon> ha ha i finaly got it to start installing
[08:42] <jsoft> Why not find something genuinely interesting, ie, make something, be creative
[08:42] <loa> Can you help to choose mail software
[08:42] <Viincent> ciao a tutti
[08:42] <jsoft> Grandpajoe: its sunday.
[08:42] <loa> I try qmail + vpopmail
[08:42] <mkbernard> jsoft: i do that during business hours, on my time i like to poke around
[08:43] <darren> now I just have to configure that install, cool thanks so much!!!
[08:43] <loa> what another solution i can try
[08:43] <jsoft> loa: are you migrating or setting up new?
[08:43] <starked> JangMunho: Thank heavens, I think it's finally working.  The install finally got through with now errors and has a status of "creating filesystem on..."
[08:43] <jsoft> loa: how many domains/users?
[08:43] <mkbernard> jsoft: like i said, its in my nature to be curious
 not very big mail server
[08:44] <jsoft> mkbernard: marvelous. You have already mentioned that about 3 or 4 times now.
[08:44] <jsoft> loa: single domain?
[08:44] <mkbernard> josft: and you have tried attacking even more, so i reitterate
[08:44] <dragon> i put the sudo command like b4 only i removed a - that was between the verson number and the word linux
[08:44] <JangMunho> starked: That's good...:)
[08:44] <jsoft> mkbernard: yah whatever. go be curious.
 no, few domains
[08:45] <jsoft> loa: few, or one
[08:45] <toly> hey, have anybody tried to run Outlook, configured through HTTP proxy (OWA), using crossover or wine? OWA just does not seem to work with crossover..
[08:45] <mkbernard> jsoft: do you know how to make it listen on multiple ports?
[08:45] <jsoft> loa: whats it for, describe whos going to use it...
[08:45] <dragon> so it went:  sudo sh armyops250linux.run
[08:45] <starked> JangMunho: It says "Copying files..." so I think I'm in the clear.  Thanks for all your help with this, and for the nifty new dd tricks!  I'm going to go enjoy the LiveCD now, since it's never worked for me before :)  Have a good night!
[08:45] <jsoft> mkbernard: i would make it listen on a single port, and any werid additional ports that it needs to listen on, I would do a rdr to.
 On same server already installed few web projects, wich scripts can send mail
[08:46] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: Does this look right? fdisk: /dev/sdb1               1       15740    16117744    b  W95 FAT32      fstab: /dev/sdb1    /media/sd    vfat    rw,user,auto    0    0
[08:46] <macogw> JangMunho: dd tricks?
[08:46] <niskel> Is there a way to install Ubuntu on a machine that has no optical drive?
[08:46] <Grandpajoe> Use USB
[08:46] <niskel> Grandpajoe: is there a way to put the livecd on a usb key?
[08:46] <macogw> Grandpajoe: is it a usb disk that's always connected or a flash drive that you take in and out?
[08:46] <Grandpajoe> niskel: yes, let me look up the link
 and few remote users with different domains
[08:47] <JangMunho> starked: You're welcome..  I'm Chinese. So it's day rather than night...:) Good night!
[08:47] <Grandpajoe> macogw: its just a usb you take out
[08:47] <jsoft> loa: can you at least use jsoft instead of <jsoft>
[08:47] <macogw> Grandpajoe: noauto
[08:47] <macogw> Grandpajoe: if you do auto itll try to find the disk on boot
[08:47] <loa> it's xchat, excuse me
[08:47] <simion314> can you tell me in what file the repositories are stored? i tried to upgrade to ubuntu 8.04 and it faield
[08:47] <mkbernard> grandpajoe: like a pendrive or a thumb drive?
[08:47] <darren> Any one know how to search for a file or directory in GOS ?
[08:47] <AHemlocksLie> I'm trying to configure the drivers for my ATI RADEON 9550 graphics card, but it's not working. When I try to run "sudo aticonfig --initial", it gives me the following error: http://www.pastebin.org/18891 It also takes it upon itself to delete my xorg.conf. Anyone have any ideas what's wrong?
[08:48] <[MGR]Mikkel> Hi all
[08:48] <macogw> darren: sudo updatedb && locate <file>
[08:48] <Grandpajoe> http://wiki.eeeuser.com/ubuntu
[08:48] <[MGR]Mikkel> How can i changes the File Name?? from lol.conf to example.conf?
[08:48] <jsoft> loa: Well you could get away with just sendmail/postfix and standard system users.
[08:48] <jsoft> loa: no need to go fancy if you have few useres.
[08:48] <dragon> joy -_- i acticdently exit out of the terminal and now the: sudo sh armyops250linux.run command dont want to work
[08:48] <loa> jsoft I want to try: Exim+Courier-IMAP and MySQL
[08:48] <jsoft> users.
[08:48] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard its just a usb pendrive
[08:48] <Starnestommy> [MGR]Mikkel: mv old.file new.file
[08:48] <macogw> [MGR]Mikkel: mv lol.conf example.conf
[08:48] <jsoft> loa: well sure, do that if you want... but dont waste your time if you dont need to.
[08:48] <[MGR]Mikkel> starked thx
[08:48] <niskel> Grandpajoe: thanks for the link
[08:48] <[MGR]Mikkel> Starnestommy Thx
[08:48] <[MGR]Mikkel> and macogw thx :)
[08:49] <mkbernard> grandpajoe: whats your end goal?
[08:49] <jsoft> loa: and bear in mind it will require you to migrate existing users to the sql setup.
[08:49] <jsoft> mkbernard: hes just curious
[08:49] <Grandpajoe> niskel: no problem.  By the way, ignore the part about the live cd if you already have an ubuntu machine
[08:49] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: to connect an SD card to my laptop
[08:49] <loa> jsoft thank you
[08:49] <macogw> simion314: dont think anyone answered you yet, so /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:49] <darren> ok how about copy and paste?
[08:49] <niskel> Grandpajoe: will do
[08:49] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: doesn't really matter how it mounts, just so long as I can write to it and read from it
[08:50] <darren> got it
[08:50] <darren> same
[08:50] <mkbernard> grandpajoe: it wont mount at all?
[08:50] <macogw> darren: copy is cp
[08:50] <macogw> darren: mv is move
[08:50] <iDivine> Umm, Yes, I recently had KDE4 and KDE, I was wondering, How do I take it off my system?..
[08:50] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: nope, and i had to go through hell to get the laptop to even recognize it
[08:51] <mkbernard> grandpajoe: does it mount on another machine?
[08:51] <[MGR]Mikkel> Fail: Cannot chdir(/home/mikkel/lib): Permission denied, check DPATH <- Where can i find the Pastebin to I can copy From example.conf?
[08:51] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: But I have that taken care of now.  fdisk sees it now, and I formatted it.  What do you say I should put in the place of auto?  noauto?
[08:51] <jsoft> Ugh.
[08:51] <jsoft> Gnash is filth. Dont use it with firefox :/
[08:51] <macogw> [MGR]Mikkel: chdir?
[08:51] <iDivine> Umm, Yes, I recently had KDE4 and KDE, I was wondering, How do I take it off my system?..
[08:51] <[MGR]Mikkel> macogw: its ircu :9
[08:51] <[MGR]Mikkel> :)
[08:51] <simion314> macogw: thx, i do not kn ow why i never could upgrade from synaptic and alwaus i had to install the new versions
[08:52] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: You'll laugh, but I only have one other sd slot in my house, and its on a camera.  And yes, it works beautifully there
[08:52] <Starnestommy> [MGR]Mikkel: try chmod 777 ~/lib
[08:52] <[MGR]Mikkel> Ok!
[08:52] <macogw> simion314: sudo sed -i 's/gutsy/hardy/' /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:52] <[MGR]Mikkel> Starnestommy: Done now i has Try chmod whats now?
[08:52] <macogw> simion314: thatll change it all if you dont wanna go through manually doing each one
[08:52] <_evert_> pff wtf, i've wasted 5 dvd's and 3 downloads on ubuntu server 7.10 and it keeps giving me the 'incorrect cd' error
[08:52] <Starnestommy> [MGR]Mikkel: try to start ircu again
[08:53] <[MGR]Mikkel> Starnestommy: error:(
[08:53] <macogw> _evert_: ubuntu server is a cd, not a dvd
[08:53] <Grandpajoe> _evert_: ouch
[08:53] <mkquist> hey peeps...  best music manager anyone?  I've been using rhythmbox, but I'm not so sure?  Any takers?
[08:53] <[MGR]Mikkel> Check on CPATH (ircd.conf) failed: No such file or directory
[08:53] <iDivine> Umm, Yes, I recently had KDE4 and KDE, I was wondering, How do I take it off my system?..
[08:53] <[MGR]Mikkel> Please create this file and/or rerun `configure' using --with-Cpath and recompile to correct this.
[08:53] <_evert_> macogw: since when i can't burn that cd image on a dvd ?
[08:53] <_evert_> i've done that multiple times for other distro's and live cd's without any problem
[08:53] <Starnestommy> [MGR]Mikkel: copy the config file to ~/lib/ircu.conf
[08:53] <[MGR]Mikkel> ok!
[08:53] <Starnestommy> [MGR]Mikkel: er, ~/lib/ircd.conf
[08:53] <macogw> _evert_: well youre complaining youve used up 5 dvds....i was thinking "dang and dvds are a lot more expensive than cds"
[08:54] <_evert_> i'm having only dvd's here, so i had no choice
[08:54] <darren> ok its telling me I need to have a C compiler on my machine
[08:54] <dragon> sigh the terminal is now giveing me the: sh: armyops250linux.run: No such file or directory even though the file is on my desktop
[08:54] <darren> Im running GOS
[08:54] <SupaFly> Hey there ive got windxp on one IDE HD and kubuntu on another IDE HD, is there someway to listen to the music on the ntfs HD containing windows(and my mp3s)
[08:54] <Starnestommy> darren: install build-essential
[08:54] <_evert_> i've got a hurry to get ubuntu server working on that box, otherwise i'd have installed gentoo or such
[08:54] <Grandpajoe> _evert_: Got a 2gb usb drive?
[08:54] <brizben> mkquist a lot of people like amarok but I still use rhythmbox
[08:55] <_evert_> Grandpajoe: i'm having a 4gb usb stick, but it's meant to put ubuntu on
[08:55] <_evert_> i don't know wheter that's a problem or not ?
[08:55] <inst1> argh, how do you change your path in the command line?
[08:55] <mkquist> SupaFly: you should just be able to tell your music manager to look there...  And it should play, as long as your machine is mounting the drive...
[08:55] <Starnestommy> inst1: cd
[08:55] <ethan961> !ubuntu
[08:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[08:55] <[MGR]Mikkel> Starnestommy: Check on CPATH (ircd.conf) failed: Permission denied <-
[08:55] <darren> apt-get infront of the install?
[08:55] <SupaFly> no because i get this: hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[08:55] <Starnestommy> [MGR]Mikkel: chmod a+r ~/lib/ircd.conf
[08:56] <macogw> darren: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:56] <u007-1> hi, is there a way to set mouse scrolling rate?
[08:56] <[MGR]Mikkel> Starnestommy: Done i try and start it now?
[08:56] <Grandpajoe> _evert_: http://wiki.eeeuser.com/ubuntu  Follow the instructions where it says "Install from a Live Ubuntu image on a USB stick"  This has worked for me on several machines, and no more burning cds at all
[08:56] <Starnestommy> [MGR]Mikkel: yes
[08:56] <[MGR]Mikkel> DONE
[08:56] <[MGR]Mikkel> Its works?
[08:56] <darren> I think im in a root shell
[08:56] <inst1> Starnestommy: heh, thanks, i meant PATH ... i found it, just forgot the caps  :)
[08:56] <darren> cant find a user shell in GOS
[08:56] <_evert_> Grandpajoe: i'm going to see if i can do that :)
[08:56] <iDivine> Umm, Yes, I recently had KDE4 and KDE, I was wondering, How do I take it off my system?..
[08:56] <macogw> if you want to use gparted on the live cd it wants you to be root to do it.  what password should be given to sudo/gksu on the live cd?
[08:56] <[MGR]Mikkel> Starnestommy: How can i see it Running?
[08:56] <darren> so doing everything from root
[08:56] <aLeSD> hi
[08:56] <iDivine> I have ubuntu now.
[08:56] <Grandpajoe> _evert_: I have done it with 3 different flavors of Ubuntu, no servers though, but I can't imagine why it wouldn't work
[08:57] <aLeSD> r u using 2.6.26-7 ?
[08:57] <Starnestommy> [MGR]Mikkel: connect your client to 127.0.0.1 or localhost
[08:57] <aLeSD> 2.6.24-7
[08:57] <[MGR]Mikkel> its working :)
[08:57] <SupaFly> so i take its got to do something with fstab, however the Winxp HD being ntfs, will this mount ok and will it not hurt windows?
[08:57] <[MGR]Mikkel> Now i Need ONE script!
[08:57] <CVD-PR> 0110100001100101011011000110110001101111
[08:57] <mkbernard> grandpajoe: repaste your fstab
[08:58] <inst1> hey, you guys have any suggestions on how i can get dvdcss2 to read this dvd?
[08:58] <[MGR]Mikkel> Starnestommy: How can i stop the IRC Server?
[08:58] <iDivine> Umm, Yes, I recently had KDE4 and KDE, I was wondering, How do I take it off my system?.. I'm on Ubuntu now.
[08:58] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: /dev/sdb1    /media/sd    vfat    rw,user,auto    0    0
[08:58] <darren> wow this stuff is a little bit scary and I am very new at this, asking now what the directory of my C header is?
[08:58] <macogw> !medibuntu > inst1
[08:58] <Starnestommy> [MGR]Mikkel: kill `pidof ircu`
[08:58] <mkquist> inst1: you installed the codecs to read copy protected dvds?
[08:58] <macogw> darren: what? build-essential shouldve installed all you need
[08:58] <darren> c Header that matches my kernal
[08:58] <dragon> sigh ok so the install command seems to no longer work
[08:58] <darren> It seemed to work as well
[08:58] <inst1> mkquist: i have libdvdcss2 and mplayer
[08:59] <mkquist> inst1: and it wont read it?
[08:59] <_evert_> Grandpajoe: do you know wheter it's possible to do that from a windows xp install ?
[08:59] <mkbernard> have you tried /dev/sdb1 /media/sd auto rw,user,noauto 0 0
[08:59] <inst1> mplayer's output is all garbled and the sound is as well
[08:59] <macogw> Starnestommy: whats teh password on teh live cd?
[08:59] <inst1> vlc won't read it
[08:59] <Starnestommy> macogw: there isn
[08:59] <inst1> dvdread can't crack it
[08:59] <[MGR]Mikkel> Done :D
[08:59] <inst1> totem can't read it on gstreamer or xine
[08:59] <mkquist> inst1: try vlc player?
[08:59] <Grandpajoe> _evert_ I don't think it is, do you have any old working livecd?
[08:59] <inst1> see above ^
[08:59] <inst1> it's a brand new dvd, so it's a software problem
[08:59] <Starnestommy> macogw: er, there isn't a password for root, but the user ubuntu has either password or ubuntu as its password
[08:59] <darren> seems to think its in /usr/src/linux/include
[09:00] <iDivine> Umm, Yes, I recently had KDE4 and KDE, I was wondering, How do I take it off my system?.. I'm on Ubuntu now.
[09:00] <_evert_> Grandpajoe: the problem is that i'm not at home, so i'm not having my linux box and my set of live cd's ;(
[09:00] <mkquist> inst1: i believe vlc will read w/menus
[09:00] <inst1> mkquist: yeah it reads the menu ... but when i click play it says "Nothing to do!"
[09:00] <inst1> any dvdread-based player (vlc included) cant' crack the dvd
[09:00] <mkquist> inst1: vlc player?
[09:00] <mkbernard> grandpajoe: have you?
[09:00] <inst1> mkquist: yeah using vlc
[09:00] <Grandpajoe> _evert_: dang.   Tell you what, I saw a method of doing this from XP Somewhere, let me poke around
[09:00] <Grandpajoe> yes?
[09:01] <mkquist> hmm, got me then... sorry
[09:01] <_evert_> Grandpajoe: it would be great if you could find that wiki/howto back again for me :o
[09:01] <Grandpajoe> oh sec
[09:01] <Dr_willis> You could tell vlc from the command line what track toplay I think. or try haveing it open the .vob on the disk
[09:01] <mkbernard> grandpajoe: i posted a possible fix for the fstab entry, did you see?
[09:01] <iDivine> Ugh, No one is seeming to help me, AT ALL, this is the first time..
[09:01] <FranzJesus> iDivine: try sudo apt-get remove kdedesktop
[09:01] <macogw> Starnestommy: yeah thats what i needed
[09:01] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: I totally missed that, let me try that now.
[09:01] <mkquist> Dr_willis: is that for inst1?
[09:01] <inst1> libdvdread: Error cracking CSS key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_04_1.VOB (0x000c8094)!!
[09:01] <inst1> that's what i get though
[09:01] <mkbernard> grandpajoe:  /dev/sdb1 /media/sd auto rw,user,noauto 0 0
[09:01] <darren> How would I search for my "c headers"
[09:02] <Dr_willis> mkquist,  i dident see who was asking what.. I just recall doing tha tbefor.
[09:02] <Dr_willis> inst1 thats an interesting error
[09:02] <darren> perhaps the installer just thinks they are in the wrong place
[09:02] <iDivine> FranzJesus, E: Couldn't find package kdedesktop
[09:02] <insta> the menu can play, the trailers can play (of course), just the main track can't
[09:02] <FranzJesus> iDivine: Sorry, it should be sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[09:02] <Starnestommy> iDivine: kde-desktop?
[09:02] <Dr_willis> I wonder if theres a updated css thing.
[09:03] <mkquist> insta: read Dr_willis post 2 back
[09:03] <macogw> iDivine: which one do you want to get rid of?  you just uncheck "kde" and "kde4" from synaptic and hit apply, as far as i know, but #kubuntu's a better place to ask as they actually know about kde
[09:03] <mkquist> insta: You could tell vlc from the command line what track toplay I think. or try haveing it open the .vob on the disk
[09:03] <NineTails> sup?
[09:03] <iDivine> Macogw, Ok
[09:03] <insta> mkquist / Dr_willis ... how can vlc play my specific track if it can't decrypt it? :(
[09:03] <iDivine> FranzJesus, Is not installed.
[09:03] <mkquist> insta: that was his post
[09:03] <iDivine> Starnestommy, Couldn't find pakage
[09:04] <macogw> FranzJesus: removing kubuntu-desktop only gets rid of the metapackage.  the stuff stays
[09:04] <Dr_willis> insta,  i wonder if thats not a bad track just to confuse players.. try another track?
[09:04] <mkquist> insta: well if u cant decrypt then maybe remove and reinstall the codec?
[09:04] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock
[09:04] <[MGR]Mikkel> globals.h:66: error: array type has incomplete element type
[09:04] <[MGR]Mikkel> globals.h:200: warning: conflicting types for built-in function âlogâ
[09:04] <[MGR]Mikkel> make: *** [newq.o] Error 1 <- Why?
[09:04] <mkquist> insta: ive had at least one dvd that linux couldnt do, but i was able to in windows... so not always perfect im afraid
[09:04] <Starnestommy> [MGR]Mikkel: what are you trying to compile?
[09:05] <NineTails> investigating
[09:05] <macogw> [MGR]Mikkel: looks like the code's crap
[09:05] <darren> Ok so I went to the directory that the VM installer was looking for my C headers in
[09:05] <[MGR]Mikkel> Starnestommy: http://www.ircd-q.net/_files/Q/q_4.20.tgz <- its here!
[09:05] <FranzJesus> macogw: didn't know that
[09:05] <darren> I cant open the folder
[09:05] <mkbernard> grandpajoe: try chaning the first auto back to vfat
[09:05] <[MGR]Mikkel> macogw: How?
[09:05] <darren> nothing in it and the window is just blank, this is the /usr/src/ dir
[09:06] <macogw> FranzJesus: it might remove a few others, but i remember trying to get rid of gnome using apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop and trying to get rid of kde that way and having to go through and uninstall every libk* and kde* that showed up in dpkg -l as installed that i could find
[09:06] <Starnestommy> [MGR]Mikkel: crap as in it won't work
[09:06] <FranzJesus> could't you use apt-get autoremove after ?
[09:06] <macogw> [MGR]Mikkel: well those are errors that say "this code is wrong"
[09:06] <mkquist> macogw: uninstall using apt-get, then apt-get autoremove maybe...  just a thought
[09:06] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: k
[09:06] <insta> bah
[09:06] <[MGR]Mikkel> Hmmm
[09:06] <insta> it was region encoding
[09:06] <badkitty> can anyone recommend a good disk recovery tool that can read ntfs?
[09:06] <shastry> hi folks
[09:06] <[MGR]Mikkel> macogw : Can i not running it ?
[09:06] <shastry> how do i get libmad0 ?
[09:07] <mkquist> FranzJesus: same thought a little slower for me... =p
[09:07] <macogw> [MGR]Mikkel: if the programmers wrote junk code, it's not going to compile
[09:07] <darren> lots of good stuff out there
[09:07] <_evert_> Grandpajoe: according to this guide it should be possible with windows since syslinux is available for windows too
[09:07] <Dr_willis> badkitty,  there are some ntfs tools - not installed by default. that can read/recover ntfs.
[09:07] <mkquist> badkitty: try knoppix?
[09:07] <_evert_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[09:07] <Starnestommy> shastry: sudo apt-get install libmad0 libmad0-dev
[09:07] <macogw> [MGR]Mikkel: its also possible that they wrote code that's bad in a way that it only works on *really old* compilers
[09:07] <shastry> Starnestommy: not found
[09:07] <insta> so, yeah, that was irritating
[09:07] <Dr_willis> badkitty,  i also recall a 'system rescue live cd' that included a lot of ntfs system recovery tools
[09:08] <[MGR]Mikkel> macogw: I can sudo nano -w Q and changes to my IRC server :9
[09:08] <mkquist> badkitty: or knoppix std, it has a whole bunch of recovery/forensic tools that are for getting things
[09:08] <[MGR]Mikkel> :)
[09:08] <redmonkey> so, auf den 2. versuch hat es geklappt
[09:08] <darren> badkitty: tell me how the drive crashed or what the problem is and I can help yeh
[09:08] <mkquist> badkitty: drive failed?
[09:08] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: by the way when I run sudo mount /dev/sdb1  it asks to name the filetype
[09:08] <shastry> http://rafb.net/p/CcroJk49.html
[09:08] <macogw> [MGR]Mikkel: well whoever compiled it for your server has voodoo magic :P
[09:08] <shastry> sources.list and apt-get command...
[09:09] <macogw> !de | redmonkey
[09:09] <ubotu> redmonkey: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:09] <[MGR]Mikkel> macogw: How compiled :D
[09:09] <mkbernard> grandpajoe: do you have an fstab entry for /dev/sda1?
[09:09] <shastry> oh! wait
[09:09] <Grandpajoe> Yeah
[09:09] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard its under a UUID though
[09:09] <macogw> [MGR]Mikkel: what?
[09:09] <darren> So any one know where I can find my C headers?
[09:10] <macogw> darren: is build-essential installed?
[09:10] <insta> darren /usr/include/ ?
[09:10] <[MGR]Mikkel> How compiled?
[09:10] <mkbernard> grandpajoe: ok lets see what your current entry is
[09:10] <Survivorman> right above your C neckers
[09:10] <darren> yes sir
[09:10] <macogw> [MGR]Mikkel: er...thats not a sentence
[09:10] <elfgoh> hi, I tried installing and then xfce... now back to gnome.. and find that my compiz fusion desktop no longer has wondow decorations. Running "gtk-window-decorator --replace" does not solve the problem
[09:10] <macogw> darren: ma'am
[09:10] <elfgoh> any ideas?
[09:10] <darren> its looking in usr/src/linux/include
[09:10] <dragon> can someone tell me if any of this sounds right (so i dont fall into another novice trap lol): http://www.debianadmin.com/applications-installation-in-one-click-using-easyubuntu.html
[09:10] <jsoft> elfgoh: scrap compiz fusion, waste of time :p
[09:10] <Starnestommy> darren: try /usr/include
[09:10] <simion314> hi, i can load the ubuntu web site, i can enter any other sites but not the ubuntu or ubuntu forums
[09:10] <jsoft> and memory. and cpu.
[09:10] <Grandpajoe> _evert_: Look at http://www.pendrivelinux.com/category/new-usb-linux-tutorials/
[09:10] <_evert_> Grandpajoe: i'm having already a little problem, my windows isn't able to partition a usb stick lol
[09:11] <Grandpajoe> damn
[09:11] <Dr_willis> dragon,  DONT use easyubuntu :) theres no need for it these days.
[09:11] <_evert_> Grandpajoe: ok thanks for that guide
[09:11] <macogw> dragon: DONT use automatix eitehr
[09:11] <elfgoh> jsoft: tks for ur input.. but I am having it on some of the time to convert my friends to Linux
[09:11] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: Check this out: http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?pid=135401#p135401
[09:11] <dragon> lol well how can i make ubuntu easyer to use since im a linux novice?
[09:11] <pocketwatch> hello, i have problems loading gnome. this happens after i login the gdm, im stuck at the camelcolor screen for what seems ages. from what i found online it has something to do with /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default, any ideas?
[09:11] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: the only change from that to now is changing the auto to noauto
[09:12] <simion314> hi, i can load the ubuntu web site, i can enter any other sites but not the ubuntu or ubuntu forums, is this working for you?
[09:12] <badkitty> darren mkquist
[09:12] <macogw> simion314: host ubuntu.com
[09:12] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: strange question, can vfat handle a 16gb drive, isn't its registers limited to 4gb?
[09:12] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: or am I nuts
[09:13] <Starnestommy> simion314: ubuntuforums.org is working for me
[09:13] <badkitty> It is not my drive, I was helping someone resize their win partition and it crashed their win install
[09:13] <tich> has anyone tried the samsung yepp yp-p2?  i am thinking of getting it but i want to know if there are any problems.
[09:13] <jsoft> elfgoh: you are trying to convert friends over with flashy effects?
[09:13] <jsoft> linux is not mac dude
[09:13] <dragon> heh maybe its just im so use to point and click interface insted of this terminal thing
[09:14] <FranzJesus> dragon: if you find any program you wan't on the internet, then try searching it in synaptic and install from there
[09:14] <Grandpajoe> _evert_: by the way, if your not at home, are you in a hotel?
[09:14] <kibb> filesize is limited to 4gb on fat32 i think mounted as vfat
[09:14] <mkquist> badkitty: sry
[09:14] <macogw> simion314: does that show ubuntu.com's ip address as 91.189.94.158?
[09:14] <Grandpajoe> mac is a linux though!
[09:14] <mkquist> darren: drive failed?
[09:14] <simion314> for me is not working, no message just tring to load, i can't enter kubuntu either, debian is working
[09:14] <L3ttuc3> Grandpajoe bsd.
[09:14] <darren>  no bad kitty was the one with NTFs problems
[09:14] <Starnestommy> Grandpajoe: it's based on freebsd and xnu, not linux
[09:14] <darren> I was offering advise but I dont know where he went
[09:14] <mkquist> darren: ok nm then =p
[09:14] <macogw> Grandpajoe: mac is a model of apple computer. osx, the os on the mac, is a bsd, not a linux, but it's still a unix
[09:15] <Grandpajoe> I knew I should have said a unix
[09:15] <dragon> unfortintly i cant find armyops in synaptic package manager
[09:15] <pocketwatch> actually darwin is the unix os, osx is the gui
[09:15] <macogw> simion314: does your /etc/resolv.conf match on your ubuntu and on your debian?
[09:15] <JustV> Hello
[09:15] <Grandpajoe> they really should add that to the games section
[09:16] <JustV> How i can change codepage of my ubuntu? I'm using ubuntu 7.10 server edition..
[09:16] <macogw> pocketwatch: darwin's the kernel, osx is the os, and aqua's the gui
[09:16] <pocketwatch> macogw, okay >.> :P
[09:16] <Grandpajoe> macogw: and leopard is a cat
[09:16] <macogw> JustV: code page?
[09:16] <JustV> or charset
[09:17] <JustV> from ??? to utf8
[09:17] <darren> ok its saying my /usr/include are for c libraries not for running kernel, says I "probably dont have kernel source package installed then asks me if im sure I want to continue
[09:17] <macogw> JustV: it should be unicode by default, i thought...
[09:17] <darren> should I continue
[09:17] <L3ttuc3> is there a way to change the locale after installation? ie the way ubuntu displays date/time, currency symbols, whatever?
[09:17] <JustV> macogw: but i change it?
[09:17] <macogw> darren: you shouldnt need the full kernel sources. just the headers should be enough
[09:17] <JustV> macogw: *but i can change it?
[09:18] <_evert_> Grandpajoe: i've copied all the files to the usb stick, let's hope it will boot
[09:18] <mkbernard> grandpajoe: have you tried mounting it without the UUID
[09:18] <simion314> <macogw: no , i can't ping ubuntu.com, i do not have ubuntu in my resolve.conf
[09:18] <Grandpajoe> _evert_: Good luck!
[09:18] <FranzJesus> dragon: Use this how https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AmericasArmy
[09:18] <Grandpajoe> _evert_: and remember to make it bootable
[09:18] <dragon> meh i cant seem to install any games on here linux or otherwise (and the games that are allready in synaptic are blegh)
[09:18] <macogw> JustV: unicde = utf-8, utf-16, utf-32, etc and switches between them based on how many bits are needed to represent the character based on how high its value s
[09:18] <darren> ok says " does not match my running kernel"
[09:18] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: the sda?
[09:19] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: that drive is working just fine
[09:19] <macogw> simion314: it doesnt need to be in your resolv.conf
[09:19] <darren> then asks me again where my c header can be found
[09:19] <_evert_> Grandpajoe: what tool are you using to make it bootable ? :)
[09:19] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: Its sdb that is acting up
[09:19] <macogw> simion314: resolv.conf lists the domain name servers you're using
[09:19] <simion314> macogw: yes i know
[09:19] <dragon> Franzjesus: um i was useing that to do it and it didnt seem to work right
[09:19] <Grandpajoe> _evert_: syslinux I think
[09:19] <macogw> simion314: it shoulds like your ubuntu and your debian one disagree
[09:19] <Grandpajoe> _evert_: Windows can do it too though
[09:19] <FranzJesus> dragon: What failed, how far did you come ?
[09:19] <macogw> simion314: you can try going to the ip address i gave and if that works, put the ip address into your /etc/hosts
[09:20] <Grandpajoe> _evert_: thats an option when you format it....  if you can format it
[09:20] <kjdx> I installed Ubuntu 6.06 LTS and installed fluxbox wmake but I am not part of that version xorg should install?
[09:20] <kjdx> Sorry my English but with google translate translate education
[09:20] <dragon> i got it to unpack and it seemed like it installed but then it got stuck on the install part (the install bar would go from 0 to 99 over and over again)
[09:20] <macogw> kjdx: what is your language?
[09:20] <kjdx> italiano
[09:20] <mwazny> I have a problem. I've been trying to get wine working and when I uninstalled it I saw it wasn't deleting it's configuration files so I deleted them manualy (from /home/.wine). Now for some reason even when I mark it for complete removal and remove it and reinstall it, it still won't create that directory and errors out when I try to do anything
[09:21] <macogw> kjdk #ubuntu-it
[09:21] <simion314> macogw: i tried to go to that  adress http://91.189.94.158 but is the same, i will restart
[09:21] <kjdx> 	
[09:21] <kjdx> Ubuntu.it are also, but I am still no one has answered why I tried here
[09:21] <macogw> kjdx: oh ok
[09:21] <kjdx> 	
[09:21] <kjdx> I need this help
[09:21] <macogw> kjdx: ubuntu 6.06 comes with xorg
[09:22] <Anand> help needed. Just finished installing ubuntu on my presario v3224. everything fine but no sounr output. Alsa and oss are updated. what to do next...
[09:22] <macogw> kjdx: do you want to know which version?
[09:22] <kjdx> yes
[09:22] <FranzJesus> dragon: cant help you then
[09:22] <FranzJesus> dragon: sorry
[09:23] <kjdx> If I do not write startx starts graphics
[09:23] <bert_> hi, can someone help me to configure compiz fusion's widget layer ?
[09:23] <kjdx> command not found
[09:23] <mkbernard> gandpajoe: try sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/sd and tell me what error (if any) you get
[09:23] <Grandpajoe> wrong fs type, bad otion.....
[09:24] <jsoft> *Sigh*
[09:24] <Anand> hello.. someone help me to get my alsa to make some noise...
[09:24] <macogw> kjdx: dpkg -l xserver-xorg
[09:24] <_evert_> Grandpajoe: how did you make the usb stick bootable ? I've copied all the files, but i still need to make it bootable somehow
[09:24] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: wrong fs type, bad otion.....
[09:24] <jsoft> why do people get facinated with compiz and all that rubbish
[09:24] <macogw> kjdx: there is a column for version
[09:24] <mkbernard> grandpajoe: thats wierd considering you mounted it from the command line
[09:24] <mwazny> can anyone help? I tried to reinstall wine and after removing it deleted the .wine folder and now it won't make that folder again even when I reinstall
[09:24] <kjdx> No corresponding package
[09:24] <mkbernard> grandpajoe: did you actually try it or is that just what its been giving you?
[09:25] <incorrect> does anyone know of a game server probe for linux?
[09:25] <FranzJesus> dragon: try to install program from http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=701
[09:25] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: I tried that a minute ago and got that error
[09:25] <n9xph> Anand is your sound card hardware supported
[09:25] <kjdx> I installed Ubuntu 6.06 serves LAMP
[09:25] <kjdx> server*
[09:25] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: yep, just did it again, same error
[09:25] <macogw> kjdx: dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core
[09:25] <Grandpajoe> _evert_: looking it up
[09:25] <macogw> kjdx: oooooooo
[09:26] <kjdx> No corresponding package
[09:26] <Anand> dear all, i need some help in getting sound on my lappy. ubuntu on compaq.....
[09:26] <macogw> kjdx: you do not have X installed yet, then?
[09:26] <mkbernard> grandpajoe: what happens if you remove it from the fstab then try it (backup fstab first)
[09:26] <SupaFly> Hey can someone please shed some light on this prob of mine: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4303782&postcount=1 thanks in advance
[09:26] <kjdx> no
[09:26] <SupaFly> i got ntfs-3g installed btw
[09:26] <macogw> Anand: be more specific.  telling what kind of sound card you have could result in someone saying "oh i have that and i did x"
[09:26] <kjdx> I do not know what should install
[09:27] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: same thing
[09:27] <macogw> kjdx: sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg
[09:27] <Grandpajoe> _evert_: last time I did it I just ran sudo syslinux /dev/sdX1
[09:27] <Grandpajoe> _evert_: lemme look on how to do it in windows
[09:28] <vallhalla81> SupaFly if you have the option to go to the boot munu before load it is simple to do it that way
[09:28] <kjdx> Ok hours are installing
[09:28] <kjdx> tnk
[09:28] <macogw> kjdx: no problem
[09:28] <kjdx> Finished with the installation startx to do lancira graphics right?
[09:28] <SupaFly> yeah but id like to access the winxp HD for the mp3's say via amarok while im using Kubuntu on its own HD
[09:29] <macogw> kjdx: yes, that should work
[09:29] <SupaFly> just so i can access files on the win HD through Kubuntu
[09:29] <vallhalla81> SupaFly ie on my pc i can press f11 while it is loading and select what to bot from
[09:29] <Grandpajoe> _evert_: Maybe this will help? http://h18000.www1.hp.com/support/files/serveroptions/us/download/23839.html
[09:29] <macogw> kjdx: that is how i set up this laptop. i installed the server version, and then i installed xserver-xorg and fluxbox. i start it up with startx
[09:29] <kjdx> Thanks for the support
[09:29] <vallhalla81> ah i see to use both at the same time you meen
[09:29] <SupaFly> yeah i dont have a problem with that so much now, i got that bit sorted, but its accessing the files from the win HD from the Kubuntu HD
[09:29] <macogw> kjdx: i am trying to write so that the google translator can work well
[09:30] <SupaFly> yup
[09:30] <kjdx> :)
[09:30] <SupaFly> well, i use Kubuntu %80 of the time, but would be nice to acccess and listen to music while im on Kubuntu
[09:30] <Anand> macogw: System compaq presario v3423 au, sound is nvidia HDA, chip: conexant cx20549. alsa and oss installed with syanaptics manager. everything seems to be ok.---means no error messaged came so far. tried to play some mp3 with mplayer, and then with vlc player. it plays the file .. but no sound output.
[09:30] <vallhalla81> then maybe a virtual machine is the awnser you are looking for
[09:30] <SupaFly> no no way
[09:30] <SupaFly> last time i tried vmware i fried everything
[09:30] <SupaFly> lol
[09:30] <vallhalla81> ek ok then
[09:31] <SupaFly> i dont want that solution, im more than happy having the OS on there own HD
[09:31] <darren> OHH man, I crashed linux...
[09:31] <ParsiTux> Our ISP's web proxy server is down now, is there a solution to browsing web?
[09:31] <macogw> Anand: and in alsamixer there's nothing suspiciously muted?
[09:31] <darren> perhaps I should just stop using computers
[09:31] <SupaFly> that suits me fine, but id like to be able to access the win HD/files while im on kubuntu
[09:31] <vallhalla81> there are other virtual programs have you lookked in to thoes?
[09:31] <macogw> Anand: check that your media keys on the computer for muting havent muted it either.  sometimes itll be muted by the media keys but the alsamixer doesnt show that
[09:31] <Grandpajoe> darren: true, you can now install linux on your toaster
[09:31] <SupaFly> no, i dont want virtualisation
[09:31] <Grandpajoe> darren: no need for a computer
[09:31] <kjdx> The installation is finished, but if I say I write startx command not found
[09:31] <darren> heh
[09:31] <Anand> macogw: nothing muted...
[09:31] <SupaFly> id rather have the OS' on there own HD
[09:32] <darren> ok so you do you mind if I continue to bother you with n00b q's
[09:32] <zimon> SupaFly, you've got to mount your windows partition. put it in /etc/fstab so that it's mounted during the boot process. see man mount, man fstab
[09:32] <Kaja> Anyone having luck settings 2fingertap to "right mouse button" and 3fingertap to "middle mouse button" on MacBook?
[09:32] <darren> aghhhh
[09:32] <darren> <---embrsd
[09:32] <SupaFly> yup, but problem with fstab i cant find the /dev/sda1(win xp HD) mount point to put into fstab
[09:32] <Kaja> Any other synaptic touchpad could work the same way.. dunno.
[09:32] <vallhalla81> you can accses the files but i dont think you will be able to run any of the other os programs from a sepera os
[09:32] <mkbernard> grandpajoe: are you sure thats the right dev mount point?
[09:33] <Anand> macogw: media keys are fine.. if i press the mute key, osd appears with mute symbol. that means it is fine
[09:33] <SupaFly> yeah i dont want to run programs from windows on kubuntu though, just ACCESS them
[09:33] <darren> new distro to linux "umbarsed"
[09:33] <kjdx> If someone responds to my questions please write my step so nick translation thanks
[09:33] <darren> ok ok
[09:33] <SupaFly> ill post the output of sudo fdisk -l && cat /etc/fstab
[09:33] <SupaFly> !paste
[09:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:33] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: well, I think I am, I could know for sure by running fdisk -l right?
[09:33] <macogw> kjdx: what kind of video or graphics card do you have?  nvidia? ati? intel?
[09:34] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: oh hey, I should probably add that the /media/sd was just a folder I created, should I change that to something else you think?
[09:34] <SupaFly> here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55458/
[09:34]  * Timon_Crazy пожелал всем доброго утра.
[09:34] <Grandpajoe> _evert_: any luck?
[09:34] <SupaFly> but what would be the mount point for sda1 in fstab?
[09:34] <mkbernard> grandpajoe: typically that really shoudlnt matter
[09:34] <kjdx> nvidia
[09:34] <jm_> how do you unzip/uncompress a .cpgz file?
[09:35] <vallhalla81> is win on the 30 or the 41 gig?
[09:35] <SupaFly> the 30g
[09:35] <spdf> jm_: its a gzip'd cpio archive
[09:35] <SupaFly> winxp = /dev/sda1   *           1        3737    30017421    7  HPFS/NTFS
[09:35] <macogw> kjdx: ls /etc/X11/  is there a file named xorg.conf ?
[09:35] <vallhalla81> mount should just be sda
[09:36] <vallhalla81> or /dev/sda
[09:36] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: so fdisk -l says /dev/sdb1     1    15740     16117744    b  w95 fat32
[09:36] <zimon> SupaFly, you can mount in anywhere. eg, create a folder /media/windows and mount it there
[09:36] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: w95 fat32 is vfat right?
[09:36] <kjdx> no such file or directory
[09:36] <SupaFly> ah ok ill give that a go,
[09:36] <kjdx> asp
[09:36] <jm_> spdf: how do i open it?
[09:37] <Anand> macogw: any idea how to troubleshoot this
[09:37] <kjdx> fluxbox windowmaker X xorg.conf xresources Xwrapper.config
[09:37] <macogw> kjdx: are you sure it finished installing? was there an error?
[09:37] <Dr_willis> !info unp
[09:37] <ubotu> unp (source: unp): unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.12 (gutsy), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[09:37] <simion314> when i ping www.ubuntu .com the ip appears  there (91.189.94.158) and 1-2 minutes i get 2 responses from arctowski.canonical.com (91.189.94.158)
[09:37] <macogw> kjdx: xorg.conf is there
[09:37] <macogw> kjdx: vi xorg.conf
[09:38] <macogw> kjdx: move down and look for the word Nvidia
[09:38] <spdf> jm_: gunzip it, then I believe 'cpio -id < filename'
[09:38] <mkbernard> grandpajoe: yea. try using a nix file system, like ext3
[09:38] <mkbernard> grandpajoe: do the results change?
[09:38] <darren> any one know what "none of the pre built vmhgfs modules for vmware tools is suitable for your running kernel mean?
[09:38] <macogw> Anand: no
[09:38] <zimon> Anand, it's probably the still not fixed snd-hda-intel driver that comes with gutsy (you're using gutsy, right?)
[09:38] <Anand> zimon: yea
[09:38] <macogw> zimon: snd-hda-intel works on my laptop...
[09:39] <darren> asking me if the program should try and make them?
[09:39] <Anand> macogw: model?
[09:39] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: To do that I would go through fdisk, and set it as an extended partition, then change it to ext
[09:39] <macogw> Anand: there is an alsa dev that is usually here, but he lives near me, so i know it's 4:30 AM.  you can try #alsa
[09:39] <simion314> i can't conect to ubuntu when i ping www.ubuntu .com the ip appears  there (91.189.94.158) and after 1-2 minutes i get 2 responses from arctowski.canonical.com (91.189.94.158)
[09:39] <zimon> Anand, right. didn't work for me either. seems like they missed some codecs when building the module
[09:39] <mkbernard> grandpajoe: you cant reformat the whole drive?
[09:40] <Anand> zimon: might be. lemme try from scratch.
[09:40] <Mistral_> -ChanServ
[09:40] <mkbernard> grandpajoe: whats wierd is it should matter if you use auto what the fs is
[09:40] <kjdx> 	
[09:40] <kjdx> The file is empty
[09:40] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: Thats what I was talking about
[09:40] <mkbernard> grandpajoe, shouldnt*
[09:40] <darren> so i guess I need the kernel source package for GOS ?
[09:41] <macogw> kjdx: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:41] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: screw it, I just installed gparted and I'm going to format the card with that
[09:41] <macogw> kjdx: that will ask you questions and should fill it in for you.
[09:41] <Kuroachia> Quick question, not sure if anyone knows but is there a channel for QCad help?
[09:42] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: ok this is really freaking weird.  I open up gparted and it looks at the disk, and its formatted to unknown
[09:42] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: ext2 or 3 you think?
[09:43] <vallhalla81> Kuroachia dosnt sem to be on free node may be on a dis network
[09:43] <SupaFly> can someone confirm that this edited fstab looks ok? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55459/
[09:43] <Kuroachia> vallhalla81: Thanks. I'll keep looking. :)
[09:43] <mkbernard> grandpajoe: 3
[09:44] <mkbernard> grandpajoe: or would you prefer a non journaled fs?
[09:44] <SupaFly> the bottom line is the edit
[09:44] <coincoin169> hello all
[09:44] <SupaFly> i just want to make sure so that i dont ruin the boot up or get a problem etc
[09:45] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: I'll be god damned, I tried fat32, took it out, put it in and it works!
[09:45] <SupaFly> or stuff up my winxp OS on that HD too lol
[09:45] <mkbernard> grandpajoe: i have a theory
[09:45] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: Damn me and my stubborness of OH the fdisk is so great let me use my new toy!
[09:45] <kjdx> 	
[09:45] <kjdx> I did configuration but when ends do if startx command always tells me not found
[09:45] <vallhalla81> SupaFly looks ok
[09:45] <coincoin169> have any of you installed ubuntu on a eee pc ?
[09:45] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: this is freaking great, thanks so much man, I have spent hours on this
[09:46] <mkbernard> grandpajoe: its likely that you didnt set some options when you fdisked it, so the partition table got hosed
[09:46] <mkbernard> grandpajoe: hey, no problem, we both learned something :D
[09:46] <SupaFly> cool, so according to the new fstab i should be able to access the files on that HD from the HD/Kubuntu OS?
[09:47] <vallhalla81> you should
[09:47] <macogw> coincoin169: i know someone that did eeexubuntu on his
[09:47] <boleslo> Hi all! I need help. I have Ubuntu 7.04, update it and at restart only command prompt is visible, no GUI
[09:47] <macogw> kjdx: are there errors at the end of /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[09:47] <macogw> boleslo: (asking the obvious first) did you do a server install?
[09:48] <mkbernard> grandpajoe: you might want to do a fsck just for fun, make sure that its clean
[09:48] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: sure, lemme see
[09:48] <boleslo> macogw: No, I didn't, I think I didn't. What kind of installation is server install?
[09:48] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: no errors at all
[09:49] <fester-182> pls  help ... XAMMP  :(
[09:49] <coincoin169> i am trying to install a command-line system on mine
[09:49] <SupaFly> vallhallla81 should i be using the UUID for the fstab? or would the /dev/sda1 be sufficient?
[09:49] <mkbernard> grandpajoe: beautiful, your in
[09:49] <SupaFly> the winxp/HD UUID being 808876B68876AA74
[09:50] <boleslo> macogw: Feisty worked fine for a long time. I updated wine (I think) and then it says it can't find apt-get command
[09:50] <fester-182> niekto kto mi rozumie tu je ? :D
[09:50] <macogw> boleslo: server installs dont have a GUI.  its fairly common for people to do server installs and then think that means it's broken
[09:50] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: now to get in more trouble and install windows xp on that drive :)
[09:50] <vallhalla81> SupaFly /dev/sda should be opk
[09:50] <macogw> boleslo: O_o sounds like your hard drive is going bad and things are corrupting
[09:50] <Dr_willis> boleslo,  lets ask this -- X used to work? then after a update/upgrade it stoppe?
[09:50] <kjdx> no
[09:51] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: LOL I'll probably be looking for you later because you know no good deed goes unpunished
[09:51] <macogw> boleslo: if apt-get is gone....chunks are either missing or corrupted
[09:51] <clever[rev]> !install
[09:51] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[09:51] <mkbernard> grandpajoe: haha, while you do that im going to see if i cant find the ubuntu drivers for my OLD all in wonder
[09:51] <mkbernard> grandpajoe: ill probly be here
[09:51] <boleslo> macogw: what should I do?
[09:51] <macogw> boleslo: backup
[09:52] <fester-182> rozumie mi tu dakto ? :D
[09:52] <macogw> boleslo: the only time ive ever heard of apt going missing was when the person's drive was dying and corrupting the system files out of existence
[09:52] <Grandpajoe> mkbernard: well That'll be for another day, I've been up playing around with computers and my daughter for about 24 hours.  The keyboard is starting to look like a pillow.
[09:52] <simion314> i can't conect to ubuntu when i ping www.ubuntu .com the ip appears  there (91.189.94.158) and after 1-2 minutes i get 2 responses from arctowski.canonical.com (91.189.94.158), after 10 minutes other 2 responses, i have no ideea, (except to try to reinstall)
[09:52] <macogw> !cz > fester-182
[09:52] <mkbernard> grandpajoe: i hate that feeling
[09:53] <Grandpajoe> Well thanks again all, Have a wonderful night.   Goodnight!
[09:53] <kandinski> does anybody know how well the skype for feisty (7.04) works for gutsy (7.10)?
[09:53] <boleslo> macogw: I also have vista installation on same drive, can i check the linux partition from vista?
[09:53] <vallhalla81> kandinsk it works just fine
[09:54] <kandinski> vallhalla81: thanks
[09:54] <vallhalla81> no problem
[09:55] <boleslo> macogw: i copied home folder from linux to vista, how can I check linux partition for errors in ubuntu command prompt ?
[09:55] <binskipy2u> anyone using Ubuntu Ultimate?
[09:55] <Survivorman> What is ubuntu ultimate?
[09:55] <darren> ok every one.. I must go to bed
[09:55] <PriceChild> !ultimate | binskipy2u
[09:55] <ubotu> binskipy2u: The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (support in #linuxmint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ubuntu Ultimate
[09:56] <darren> thanks for all the help..
[09:56] <darren> will get it working later
[09:56] <darren> byes
[09:56] <binskipy2u> i'm not asking for support
[09:56] <macogw> boleslo: you can boot from the live cd and then install smartmontools while the live cd is running.  then do "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda" to check your drive's smart response
[09:56] <binskipy2u> i'm asking for opinions?
[09:56] <PriceChild> !offtopic | binskipy2u
[09:56] <ubotu> binskipy2u: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:56] <binskipy2u> and user experiences if anyone here uses it
[09:56] <coincoin169> boleslo : fsck should do it for you
[09:56] <macogw> boleslo: smart is monitoring stuff built into the drive.  if there are reallocated sectors (the number in the far right column is what to look at) that's bad.  it means the disk is going
[09:56] <kjdx> OK refer install as ubuntu server as a server and no lamp
[09:57] <macogw> boleslo: there's also that column that says "pre-fail" just before you disk dies... i have a drive where my libraries are corrupting because of that
[09:58] <boleslo> macogw: ok, I will try. Live cd should be the one I insalled feisty from it?
[09:58] <macogw> boleslo: yes
[09:59] <boleslo> macogw: how long will you be on irc?
[10:00] <zimon> binskipy2u, my opinion after a first look: bloated. e.g.: why would i want LAMP on a desktop?
[10:00] <SupaFly> hmm im nervous, i have a bad feeling that when i reboot my system will fail again lol
[10:01] <macogw> boleslo: probably gonna go soon as its 5am
[10:01] <corporeal> where can i get the .config for the xen kernel?
[10:01] <boleslo> macgow: ok, in slovenia is 11 am right now... thank you for your help ;)
[10:01] <zimon> corporeal, is it installed?
[10:02] <corporeal> the kernel? yes
[10:02] <zimon> corporeal, then it's /boot/config....something
[10:02] <corporeal> interesting
[10:02] <vontux> hi, how do I get root access to the file manager in ubuntu?
[10:02] <hend> Hi I am using a myHella (a python interface for hellanzb). If I got to the directory and click on the python script it will open up without any problems. However when I try put it in my menu or make a link to my desktop it will open when I click on it, but not show the interface. The actual processes that it uses do open tho. Anyone got an idea how I can fix this?
[10:03] <corporeal> also, what package do i install to get ncurses-dev?
[10:03] <Survivorman> I think I use sudo nautilus
[10:03] <corporeal> because libncurses-dev and libncurses5-dev wont work
[10:03] <SupaFly> so i just have to get this right, even though the HD containing the winxp OS is ntfs, if i mount that auto with fstab when i choose to run Kubuntu(on its own HD) Kubuntu will be able to read the ntfs HD containing windows?
[10:04] <hend> SupaFly: yes
[10:04] <macogw> boleslo: ni za kaj
[10:04] <SupaFly> ok cool, i thought i may need something like ntfs-3g or something
[10:04] <nem1> clock disappear from gnome panel (Feisty), maybe it is because of the new updates - ideas?
[10:04] <macogw> boleslo: (wikipedia :) )
[10:04] <hend> nem1: right click on the the bar, and use "add to panel"
[10:04] <SupaFly> and its not dangerous at all to specify the HD(winxpOS) by its UUID in the fstab file?
[10:04] <hend> nem1: clock should be there
[10:05] <SupaFly> instead of say /dev/sda1 ?
[10:05] <macogw> bye all
[10:05] <boleslo> macogw: internet/wikipedia rocks :) tnx again
[10:05] <nem1> "fails to load the applet" :(
[10:05] <zimon> corporeal, installing ncurses-dev should pull in everything you need
[10:05] <corporeal> E: Package ncurses-dev has no installation candidate
[10:06] <nem1> any other ideas (hend?)
[10:06] <zimon> corporeal, it's not a real package, but a virtual. it's provided by libncurses5-dev ... so that should be alright
[10:06] <hend> nem1: no sorry : / no expert
[10:07] <yu78hafl> any know how to get mouse gestures like on mac
[10:07] <ktogias> !automatix
[10:07] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[10:07] <corporeal> zimon: it wont install though
[10:07] <corporeal> E: Package libncurses5-dev has no installation candidate
[10:07] <yu78hafl> !automatix
[10:08] <SupaFly> how do i unmount sorry?
[10:08] <alexkreuz> man i am impressed with ubuntu
[10:08] <corporeal> umount?
[10:08] <alexkreuz> awn + compiz
[10:08] <alexkreuz> <3
[10:08] <zimon> corporeal, what? i think you've messed up something. are you using apt-get? aptitude?
[10:08] <SupaFly> yeah unmount a device
[10:08] <corporeal> zimon: apt-get
[10:08] <SupaFly> oooooooh i get ya lol
[10:08] <zimon> corporeal, maybe run apt-get update first
[10:09] <Assid> err.. anyone remember that app that lets you set custom keys to your multimedia keyboards?
[10:09] <corporeal> zimon: already did.
[10:09] <corporeal> zimon: checked my sources.list too
[10:09] <corporeal> zimon: nothing wrong
[10:10] <Patmonsta> hello, sorry to butt in - not really sure what the polite thing to do is in here.  Just wanted some help with my IGP Pro graphics card on my laptop - i installed openchrome, and its working fine now, except when i start WINE everything crashes - this doesnt happen with the vesa driver
[10:11] <GreenByte> what is the chmod number of normal directories?
[10:11] <GreenByte> the permission number
[10:11] <DjViper> Patmonsta: hi and welcome, feel free to ask any question(s) you'd like about ubuntu :)
[10:11] <DjViper> GreenByte: normal?
[10:11] <PPF68> what is ubuntu?
[10:11] <Dr_willis> !ubuntu | PPF68
[10:11] <ubotu> PPF68: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[10:11] <GreenByte> DjViper: the common directories :)
[10:11] <GreenByte> ah
[10:11] <GreenByte> I think it's 777
[10:12] <DjViper> common... directories?
[10:12] <alexkreuz> Patmonsta, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=485646&page=8
[10:12] <zimon> corporeal, that's strange. really. it's in the main-pool
[10:12] <DjViper> it's not 777... that gives full access to all users/groups
[10:12] <corporeal> sigh
[10:12] <Patmonsta> DjViper : thanks.  When i start my computer, and choose ubuntu in grub, i get a "Could not assign mem resource". its at the PCI address of my graphics card...
[10:12] <Patmonsta> I'm worried that might be a bad thing?
[10:12] <GreenByte> DjViper: it's for website
[10:12] <Patmonsta> although it seems to do nothing
[10:13] <DjViper> Patmonsta: hmm, check bios?
[10:14] <zimon> corporeal, you're on gutsy, right?
[10:14] <corporeal> yup
[10:15] <GreenByte> My root user can't login at the normal screen
[10:15] <GreenByte> how to enable that?
[10:15] <Patmonsta> DjViper - i tried, but im running on an amilopro laptop that seems to treat me like a 4 year old lol. I cant access any settings about my graphics card - other than setting the frame buffer to 8, 32, or 64 mb
[10:15] <AD7six> Hi, with one of my machines running ubuntu I get the following error sporadically "ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 6246, errno = 4" the last time when trying to run vim. I didn't see a prcoess with that pid listed and I've googled the error message but don't know what it means. Anyone got an idea what it means and next steps to debug/fix?
[10:15] <DjViper> GreenByte: you don't want to enable that :)
[10:15] <zimon> corporeal, what does aptitude search ncurses show you?
[10:15] <GreenByte> DjViper: why not?
[10:15] <Dr_willis> The root user is blocked from logging into X diredtly. cant even login to the consoel directly
[10:15] <DjViper> Patmonsta: hm okay, I can't help you with that, sorry
[10:15] <Dr_willis> its a security thing.
[10:15] <alexkreuz> what application do most people use for mounting images (daemon tools)
[10:15] <Dr_willis> use 'sudo' as needed.
[10:15] <DjViper> GreenByte: it's a security thing, like the Dr said
[10:16] <Dr_willis> !iso | alexkreuz
[10:16] <ubotu> alexkreuz: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[10:16] <Patmonsta> DjViper - okay, thanks lol. i've been searching for days, sure i'll crack it in the end :)
[10:16] <Dr_willis> alexanderwz,  you dont need any fancy applications...
[10:16] <DjViper> GreenByte: root isnt like 'Administrator' on windows
[10:16] <GreenByte> DjViper: well.. the login screen says so
[10:16] <alexkreuz> ah cool thx
[10:16] <GreenByte> Administrator is not allowed to log on here
[10:16] <corporeal> aptitude will install it fine apt-get wont weird
[10:16] <corporeal> o.o
[10:16] <GreenByte> something like that
[10:16] <alexkreuz> im getting impressed more and more with the simplicity of linux
[10:16] <alexkreuz> thank good for vista
[10:16] <Patmonsta> GreenByte: You were asking about chmod numbers earlier, this site will be helpful : http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/LinuxGuide/linux-chmod.html
[10:17] <alexkreuz> the dread of switching to vista made me take a good long look at linux
[10:17] <DjViper> alexkreuz: heh
[10:17] <GreenByte> Patmonsta: thanks
[10:17] <DjViper> alexkreuz: people on vista usually upgrade to xp or move over to linux... it's a fact ;P
[10:18] <dialup> hrm, im having some issues getting 7.10 installed, was in here erlier, during init of the gui it goes to a text version that hangs...was suggested to try the alt version, so i did, and it hangs at "configuring apt - scanning the mirror"
[10:18] <GreenByte> How to chmod a whole directory
[10:18] <alexkreuz> DjViper, yea, among my friends, thats the case
[10:18] <GreenByte> DjViper: I already run 100 % ubuntu for 2 years
[10:18] <alexkreuz> the only issue we're all facing is gaming, but ive been trying cedega and am pretty impressed so far
[10:18] <Patmonsta> GreenByte: you can also login as root on ubuntu using this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31053 its not advised though, heed the warnings in that article
[10:18] <alexkreuz> my other friend is going dual boot, xp + linux, xp for gaming, linux for everything else
[10:18] <Substrata> .
[10:18] <vallhalla81> how can i find clam after i have installed it?
[10:19] <SupaFly> locate clam
[10:19] <SupaFly> i guess
[10:20] <amin1> i have a problem AFTER installing the ubuntu....when i select the os... it just go to a like a command promt(dos-mode)
[10:20] <Dr_willis> i dident clam had a gui interface.
[10:20] <momal> Has anyone had any sound problems with alsa since updates of few days back? seem to be getting "snd_pcm_open() failed:-19:No such device" using 7.10 only just recently like since today.
[10:20] <Dr_willis> theres some front ends to it
[10:20] <SupaFly> amin1 type in startx
[10:20] <ParsiTux> amin1: salam!
[10:20] <Dr_willis> !find clam
[10:20] <ubotu> Found: clamassassin, clamav-data, clamav-getfiles, clamcour, clamfs (and 17 others)
[10:20] <amin1> startx?
[10:20] <SupaFly> yes
[10:20] <amin1> ok
[10:20] <amin1> thx
[10:20] <SupaFly> just type startx
[10:20] <amin1> i will try now
[10:20] <dialup> amin1, is it while installing?
[10:20] <dialup> or after?
[10:20] <Patmonsta> cheers for your help, im off.
[10:20] <vallhalla81> ye i got it now thank you
[10:20] <amin1> after
[10:20] <dialup> err nm after...
[10:21] <dialup> im having problem befor installing with it doing that
[10:21] <dialup> tried the alt vers, and it hangs at configuring apt - scanning the mirror
[10:21] <dialup> =/
[10:21] <amin1> i will try it now
[10:21] <dialup> ive been fucking with it a lil over 24 hours now
[10:21] <alexkreuz> !iso
[10:21] <PriceChild> !ohmy | dialup
[10:21] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[10:21] <ubotu> dialup: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[10:21] <SupaFly> what version you got dialup?
[10:21] <dialup> 7.10
[10:21] <SupaFly> true, try type this into terminal: sudo apt-get update
[10:22] <dialup> i cant get that far
[10:22] <SupaFly> are you on Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[10:22] <dialup> ubuntu
[10:22] <SupaFly> how far can you get?
[10:22] <SupaFly> can you log in?
[10:22] <zimon> corporeal, yeah, weird. maybe your package list in /var/lib/apt/lists is corrupted. i don't know if you can just clean it and do apt-get update ..
[10:22] <dialup> no
[10:22] <dialup> during install
[10:22] <Bas> Can anyone help me, i have ubuntu 6.10 stored on my external hard drive, instead of having to download the 700mb file for 7.10 is it possible to update 6.10 to 7.10 while in linux?
[10:22] <dialup> GUI version just after it initiallizes the mouse display it goes to a dos like screen and hangs
[10:23] <SupaFly> ok, so this is when you click on that 'install' icon from the desktop?
[10:23] <Dr_willis> Bas,  that will update proberly 600+mb of files :)
[10:23] <dialup> during the alt version (text based) just as it starts to configure apt it hangs at 40%
[10:23] <Bas> But i can do it in linux right?
[10:23] <dialup> supafly, with the gui version i dont even get that far =p
[10:23] <dialup> but during alt version yes
[10:23] <SupaFly> ah ok lol
[10:23] <SupaFly> you got dial up or broadband?
[10:23] <Bas> Dr_willis , i can still do it in linux right? :D
[10:23] <dialup> i got a 7.10 cd that lets me get into gui, but it was a pre-release from a few months back
[10:24] <SupaFly> ditch it dude
[10:24] <dialup> and it hangs there at configuring apt too
[10:24] <SupaFly> get the stable release
[10:24] <alexkreuz> can i mount any cd image type with mount or MUST i convert them to iso format first?
[10:24] <Gr1mR3aPeR> hi
[10:24] <Dr_willis> Bas,  proberly - but i find it better to do clean installs then upgrades
[10:24] <dialup> broadband
[10:24] <Gr1mR3aPeR> !list
[10:24] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:24] <Bas> ok , i may aswell download it from scratch :P
[10:24] <dialup> i like the irony in the nick tho ;)
[10:24] <SupaFly> if you got a pre release from a few months back its probably not stable
[10:24] <SupaFly> lol
[10:24] <Dr_willis> alexanderwz,  you cant do just any image type.. the non .iso ones have extra data thats wont work
[10:24] <SupaFly> get the lastest stable
[10:25] <dialup> supafly, i downloaded 2 versions tonight from ubuntu's site
[10:25] <dialup> the final releases
[10:25] <dialup> alt and gui
[10:25] <dialup> no go
[10:25] <alexkreuz> Dr_willis, so its safer to convert to .iso
[10:25] <SupaFly> so you got the server edition and desktop versions?
[10:25] <dialup> no go on gui, wont even initialize after displaying mouse cursor, it goes to text..and as ive stated hangs on configuring apt =/
[10:25] <dialup> no, desktop only
[10:25] <SupaFly> what gphx card you got?
[10:25] <dialup> ati radeon hd2600 xt
[10:26] <ParsiTux> Hello! Our ISP's web proxy server is down now, is there a solution to browsing web in Ubuntu?
[10:26] <SupaFly> lol
[10:26] <SupaFly> ait....
[10:26] <SupaFly> *atie
[10:26] <Smegzor> I've just installed a 2nd hard disk which mounts as sda1.  It is formatted ext3.  What would the fstab line look like to auto mount it at boot time?
[10:26] <SupaFly> *ati ffs
[10:26] <Dr_willis> alexanderwz,  safer? You cant mount a .nrg or .cue/bin... so.... :)
[10:26] <dialup> i even tried it with my onboard video =/
[10:26] <SupaFly> yeah ati you have probs with soz
[10:26] <SupaFly> ah ok, so its not gphx card related
[10:26] <dialup> newp
[10:26] <SupaFly> and your system is up to running ubuntu? its got the grunt et
[10:26] <SupaFly> etc
[10:26] <dialup> yea
[10:27]  * hend looks at his purring ati card
[10:27] <dialup> intel dual core 1.6ghz 64bit... 1gb ram, 250gb hd....
[10:27] <ParsiTux> ubotu: web proxy
[10:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about web proxy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:27] <SupaFly> yeah that should do it lol
[10:27] <ParsiTux> ubotu: tunnel
[10:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tunnel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:27] <ParsiTux> ubotu: proxy
[10:27] <ubotu> Many Ubuntu IRC channels prohibit access from !proxies such as !TOR due to a high level of abuse. You can however obtain a hostmask cloak: see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[10:27] <SupaFly> sorry man i dont think i can help you
[10:27] <dialup> yea, considering its running at 2.66ghz overclocked (and yes i tried downstepping it back to 1.6ghz default just to make sure it wasnt instabilities)..
[10:28] <dialup> did a mem test...everything, im at a loss
[10:28] <dialup> really wanna get off windows xp 64bit =/
[10:28] <mateusz> Hi
[10:28] <SupaFly> you tried both the 64bit and 32 bit ver of ubuntu?
[10:28] <dialup> na
[10:28] <mateusz> I have problem with microphone
[10:28] <SupaFly> give them both ago incase
[10:28] <dialup> if i gotta use 32bit, id rather not try it
[10:29] <mateusz> any help ?
[10:29] <SupaFly> well, give Kubuntu ago instead
[10:29] <SupaFly> see what happens
[10:29] <teo-> can someone recomend me a good php builder for ubuntu???
[10:29] <Dr_willis> dialup,  what are you gaining from 64bit?
[10:30] <archangelpetro> push FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF :./
[10:30] <iDivine> So, I've did a big mistake to try to remove KDE, SUCCESS! But, When trying to reboot, I got, 'Kernel panic, SomethingSomething /init. Try pass init.' Then I looked on Ubuntu forums, and they told me to press 'E' at the grub menu, to edit that line, and then to edit it, now the question is, Do I have to do that every time?
[10:30] <ParsiTux> teo-: do u mean an editor?
[10:30] <mateusz> gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat: Nie można otworzyć zasobu do zapisu.
[10:30] <mateusz> any help?
[10:30] <alexkreuz> when i mount the ISO, it doesn't show up as a CD the same way as when i enter a real cd
[10:31] <dialup> if you got it, why not use it? always my philosophy.
[10:31] <alexkreuz> it mounts to a folder and i can access it, but it doesnt emulate a real cd
[10:31] <mateusz> Microphone doesnt work
[10:31] <jpatrick> !pl | mateusz
[10:31] <ubotu> mateusz: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[10:31] <Dr_willis> alexanderwz,  it alwyqa has for me..
[10:31] <PriceChild> alexkreuz, a real cd is mounted as a folder...
[10:31] <mateusz> jpatrick: they sleep
[10:31] <mateusz> jpatrick: I have a problem with alsa
[10:31] <Dr_willis>  dont expect game copy priotection to work if thats your problem...
[10:31] <mateusz> jpatrick: it doesnt detect mircophone
[10:31] <alexkreuz> i understand that, but what additional step needs to be taken to get it to show up in the filesystem as a real cd?
[10:31] <jpatrick> !sound > mateusz
[10:32] <Dr_willis> alexanderwz,  a real cd is just seen as a read only directory as far as i know. What kind of iso are you monting?
[10:32] <Guillaum3> Greets gents. Networking issue. Fresh install of ubuntu. I can ping ip
[10:32] <warlock_handler> hi guys
[10:32] <Guillaum3> 's but i cant use the hostnames of the pc's
[10:32] <Guillaum3> they dont resolve.
[10:32] <Survivorman> I think he means like an autorun type cd
[10:32] <iDivine> So, I've did a big mistake to try to remove KDE, SUCCESS! But, When trying to reboot, I got, 'Kernel panic, SomethingSomething /init. Try pass init.' Then I looked on Ubuntu forums, and they told me to press 'E' at the grub menu, to edit that line, and then to edit it, now the question is, Do I have to do that every time?
[10:32] <Survivorman> like an install disk
[10:32] <Guillaum3> though via smb i can see them.
[10:32] <alexkreuz> its a game image in .mdf format
[10:32] <alexkreuz> it mounts properly
[10:32] <warlock_handler> i have installed ubuntun 5.10 on my old laptop.. since it couldnt handle 7.10
[10:33] <alexkreuz> i mounted it into /home/user/mnt/cd/game
[10:33] <warlock_handler> and i am having problem to connect to my home wifi
[10:33] <warlock_handler> any suggestions
[10:33] <Dr_willis> alexanderwz,  and you try to run the game with wine - and the copy priotection fails?
[10:33] <warlock_handler> i tried even setting static ips.. instead of the DHCP
[10:33] <Dr_willis> You dident convert the mdf to .iso eh?
[10:33] <Guillaum3> isn't there a wep key on it
[10:33] <PriceChild> iDivine, you can make the change permenant by editing /boot/grub/menu.lst or you could fix the real problem.
[10:33] <Guillaum3> warlock_handler:  check that the security of the router matches the setup on your pc
[10:33] <amin1> when i type startx .. it says : xauth:creating new aurthority file /home/thepro/.severauth.4583      x:cannot stat /etc/xii/x (no such file or directory), aborting     xinit:sever error
[10:34] <iDivine> PriceChild, How would I fix the real problem?
[10:34] <PriceChild> alexkreuz, you can't emulate what's needed for copy protection in linux.... it requires core windows stuff.
[10:34] <Guillaum3> sudo startx ?
[10:34] <PriceChild> iDivine, no idea, i don't know what the real problem is,
[10:34] <amin1> yes
[10:34] <alexkreuz> Dr_willis, yes
[10:34] <PriceChild> Guillaum3, don't run x as root
[10:34] <warlock_handler> Guillaum3: as of now my router is open.. no restrictions
[10:34] <alexkreuz> well here is my issue, i have a GTA_SA cd which needs copy protection.
[10:34] <amin1> what as root?
[10:34] <Guillaum3> I RUN ALL AS R00T!
[10:34] <Dr_willis> alexanderwz,  wine and copy protection are often proboems.. Find a No cd crack for the game.
[10:34] <amin1> how do i type so all run as root?
[10:34] <alexkreuz> to bypass the copy protection i need to use an anti-copy 8 MB image
[10:34] <Guillaum3> root is bad for your health.
[10:34] <alexkreuz> rather than the REAL cd
[10:34] <PriceChild> Guillaum3, do you understand why that can be a bad idea?
[10:34] <iDivine> PriceChild, Then, Will menu.lst, remain ok? Or..Wil lthe problem still pre-exist but not bother me at all?
[10:35] <jpatrick> Guillaum3: have fun
[10:35] <PriceChild> !root | amin1
[10:35] <ubotu> amin1: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[10:35] <PriceChild> amin1, that's not a god idea
[10:35] <iDivine> will*
[10:35] <hend> Guillaum3: sounds like a DNS issue, did you try adding your ISP's DNS server in the network options?
[10:35] <alexkreuz> i am trying to mount this 8 MB image as a real cd
[10:35] <jpatrick> !noroot > Guillaum3
[10:35]  * Guillaum3 shies away
[10:35] <PriceChild> iDivine, i think you should fix the real problem
[10:35] <Dr_willis> alexanderwz,   you can find no cd  fix's for tehj game. No need to use the mdf/daemon tools under windows :)
[10:35] <alexkreuz> Dr_willis, this is all according to the cedega game database, according to them you can do it this way
[10:35] <neeto> I asked in #apache, but no one helped me: can someone get me a link/pastebin to a vanilla /apache2/sites-enabled/000-default file?
[10:35] <iDivine> PriceChild, I'm look through forums, but none seem to help, do you have ANY IDEA, on what happened?
[10:35] <Epicenter> Hello! I am using EDE instead of Gnome, KDE or XFCE. What is the name of the application I need to run to configure my Wireless card, select APs, set my IP/DNS etc?
[10:35] <alexkreuz> http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto_-_San_Andreas
[10:35] <Dr_willis> alexanderwz,  they 'legally' cant suggest you look for a no-cd crack.
[10:35] <Epicenter> Normally it's in a little menu in the desktop manager, but I don't have that now
[10:36] <alexkreuz> Dr_willis, check the link, they do suggest just that
[10:36] <PriceChild> iDivine, no... because you haven't given any information about it.
[10:36] <Guillaum3> c`mon gents, my work ppl solved this on the kubuntu machine.  I dont get hostnames on this machine of the network computers.
[10:36] <Guillaum3> i can ping ip's fine. and via smb i can see the names
[10:36] <iDivine> PriceChild, What information would you need?
[10:36] <Dr_willis> alexanderwz,  i have played the game befor.. I isntalled it.. i used a no-cd crack.. i dident need any .iso at all after installing the game.  Good Luck.,
[10:36] <amin1> i dont undersatn the rootsudo?
[10:36] <alexkreuz> hmm
[10:37] <alexkreuz> unfortunately im only able to find the isos, oh well ill keep looking thx
[10:37] <Dr_willis> the wine/cedega guys cant suggest you go to some 'less-then-legal' site to get hacked binaries.
[10:37] <PriceChild> !piracy | alexkreuz
[10:37] <ubotu> alexkreuz: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[10:37] <AD7six> neeto: link 2 for me http://www.google.es/search?q=apache+000-default
[10:37] <amin1> when i type startx .. it says : xauth:creating new aurthority file /home/thepro/.severauth.4583      x:cannot stat /etc/xii/x (no such file or directory), aborting     xinit:sever error
[10:37] <alexkreuz> PriceChild, i appreciate that but I dont believe this is piracy, I own GTA.
[10:38] <PriceChild> alexkreuz, you obviously don't. Go away and ask somewhere else please :)
[10:38] <alexkreuz> wow
[10:38] <alexkreuz> should I scan you a copy of my cd?
[10:38] <Dr_willis> Why would you be looking for isos then?
[10:38] <sunseeker888> hi guys, I am a newbie. I am trying to play a dvd, totem says there ain't no plugin to [lay thi dvd. I do not how to downlad they plugin and which one
[10:38] <Guillaum3> write your name on it
[10:38] <Guillaum3> so we know.
[10:38] <PriceChild> alexkreuz, please take it elsewhere
[10:38] <PriceChild> !dvd | sunseeker888
[10:38] <ubotu> sunseeker888: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[10:38] <alexkreuz> Dr_willis, I am not looking for the ISO of the game. I need a no-cd iso to make it work.
[10:38] <alexkreuz> Because according to cedega's own game database, its required to make it work with cedega.
[10:39] <Dr_willis> alexanderwz,  You just need a no-cd-cracked-execuatable. but thats the end for me. Im goint go sleep.
[10:39] <amin1> when i type startx .. it says : xauth:creating new aurthority file /home/thepro/.severauth.4583      x:cannot stat /etc/xii/x (no such file or directory), aborting     xinit:sever error       why?
[10:39] <PriceChild> alexkreuz, you started by saying that your "iso" files weren't mounted the same as a cd was. Piracy is not welcome here.
[10:39] <Guillaum3> Hostnames not beeing picked up via LAN. Fresh install. DCHP Enabled.
[10:39] <PriceChild> Guillaum3, you have a dns translating hostnames?
[10:40] <Dr_willis> converting a mdf to iso.  causes the special copy protection parts to be lost in translation also.
[10:40] <teo_> can someone recomend me a good php builder for ubuntu ???
[10:40] <Guillaum3> what you mean
[10:40] <AD7six> teo_: what is a "builder"
[10:40] <Guillaum3> like is that something setup on a specific machine
[10:40] <Guillaum3> or should i set it up on mine
[10:41] <Guillaum3> i know we have one server that does all. mail/printing/gateway
[10:41] <teo_> AD7six, somewhere where can i write the scripts and test..
[10:41] <popey> teo_: you can do that on your desktop/laptop
[10:41] <AD7six> teo_: so you mean editor? IDE? how to install?
[10:41] <amin1> everyone ( that can  help me )  : when i type startx .. it says : xauth:creating new aurthority file /home/thepro/.severauth.4583      x:cannot stat /etc/xii/x (no such file or directory), aborting     xinit:sever error       why?
[10:41] <popey> teo_: just install php
[10:41] <teo_> AD7six, yes editor..
[10:42] <teo_> AD7six, and i want to test the scripts.. i need to have apache right?
[10:42] <mateusz> ALSA lib ../../../src/pcm/pcm_dsnoop.c:606:(snd_pcm_dsnoop_open) unable to open slave
[10:42] <popey> teo_: bluefish is a nice editor
[10:42] <mateusz> how to fix this?
[10:43] <amin1> when i type startx .. it says : xauth:creating new aurthority file /home/thepro/.severauth.4583      x:cannot stat /etc/xii/x (no such file or directory), aborting     xinit:sever error       why?
[10:43] <amin1> can anybody help me pls...
[10:44] <teo_> AD7six, bluefish is good right?
[10:44] <iDivine> So, I've did a big mistake to try to remove KDE, SUCCESS! But, When trying to reboot, I got, 'Kernel panic, SomethingSomething /init. Try pass init.' Then I looked on Ubuntu forums, and they told me to press 'E' at the grub menu, to edit that line, and then to edit it, now the question is, Do I have to do that every time? + I've looked on forums, none seem to help, and I'm pretty new to ubuntu.
[10:44] <jpatrick> !repeat > iDivine
[10:44] <guidovr> after ubuntu server installation, what's the best way to make /var/www writable for the main user account so i can put my website there?
[10:44] <menllyos> i got a problem, i installed OSS 4 to use my xfi, but now im getting 2 errors on startup; one with the deskbar applet and one with the music applet, giving me both error messages looking like this: "The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:Deskbar_Applet"." is there a fix ?
[10:45] <AD7six> teo_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP never used bluefish but each to their own, and my opinion is but one of many. (I use vim for the record)
[10:45] <online_> hello
[10:45] <warlock_handler> Guillaum3: no help
[10:45] <online_> having a small problem with svn
[10:46] <amin1> when i type startx .. it says : xauth:creating new aurthority file /home/thepro/.severauth.4583      x:cannot stat /etc/xii/x (no such file or directory), aborting     xinit:sever error       why?
[10:46] <online_> it is looking for a file that does not exist
[10:46] <amin1> ?
[10:46] <ParsiTux> AD7six: what about Quanta?
[10:46] <amin1> looking a file dosent exists
[10:46] <popey> amin1: try posting your question at http://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu if nobody here can help rather than repeating the question over and over
[10:46] <iDivine> jpatrick, I don't feel ignored, or did I repeat my question quickly, it's that one person couldn't help me and for someone else can..
[10:46] <teo_> AD7six, i can't install apache2.. i type sudo apt-get install apache2 and when i type localhost in the browser it can't open
[10:46] <amin1> ok
[10:46] <amin1> ok
[10:47] <online_> is there any way to sort SVN out
[10:47] <simion314> hi, i still can't connect to ubuntu.com, restart my internet connection, boot in windows,  the ip appears when i ping but the answer is not comming
[10:47] <AD7six> ParsiTux: 'dunno' I don't use (or want) and IDE
[10:48] <AD7six> online_: what's the error message
[10:48] <online_> cant open 'dir/file' : operation not permitted
[10:48] <AD7six> teo_: sounds like "didn't correctly" rather than can't
[10:48] <AD7six> online_: where local or in the repo
[10:49] <simion314> hi, i still can't connect to ubuntu.com, restart my internet connection, boot in windows,  the ip appears when i ping but the answer is not comming, i can't read forums  to try to find such problems, i can see other web pages, this is strange
[10:49] <online_> AD7six: not sure that I understand your question
[10:49] <Epicenter> Hello! What is a good application I can install to manage my wireless card/wired network adapter, and select APs, set my IP, DNS, turn on/off DHCP, etc? Thank you! (p.s. it would be best if it had a GUI..)
[10:49] <gabbarinho> hello
[10:49] <AD7six> online_: I don't understand your explanation so at least we are even :)
[10:49] <Deeppact> Hello can someone helpe me fix my sound issues?
[10:49] <SupaFly> simon314 i think its the ubuntu server man, its quite slow for me right now and i cant edit posts either
[10:49] <online_> AD7six: local
[10:49] <online_> got you now
[10:50] <online_> AD7six: not looking to upset you just looking for some help
[10:50] <warlock_handler> i have installed ubuntun 5.10 on my old laptop.. since it couldnt handle 7.10
[10:50] <warlock_handler> and i am having problem to connect to my home wifi
[10:50] <AD7six> online_: svn up probably more appropriate to ask in an svn-specific channel. I'm not upset, tired maybe..
[10:50] <warlock_handler> i tried even setting static ips.. instead of the DHCP
[10:50] <iDivine> So, I've did a big mistake to try to remove KDE, SUCCESS! But, When trying to reboot, I got, 'Kernel panic, SomethingSomething /init. Try pass init.' Then I looked on Ubuntu forums, and they told me to press 'E' at the grub menu, to edit that line, and then to edit it, now the question is, Do I have to do that every time? + I've looked on forums, none seem to help, and I'm pretty new to ubuntu.
[10:50] <lordleemo> Epicenter: try wicd  http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[10:51] <teo_> AD7six, if i don't have internet.. can i install apache?
[10:51] <warlock_handler> no prob with router too
[10:51] <AD7six> teo_: y
[10:51] <ThorStein> hello
[10:51] <Deeppact> My sound works not every time i startup ubuntu but i dont know how to fix it
[10:52] <gabbarinho> i am having trouble getting wireless to work on two computers
[10:52] <ThorStein> one question
[10:52] <ThorStein> first, sorry if my english is no good
[10:52] <amin1> somebody help me...
[10:52] <amin1> when i type startx .. it says : xauth:creating new aurthority file /home/thepro/.severauth.4583      x:cannot stat /etc/xii/x (no such file or directory), aborting     xinit:sever error       why?
[10:52] <SupaFly> try reinstall amin1
[10:52] <ThorStein> i have to install alsa-driver 0-16 from official site
[10:52] <amin1> reinatall...how?
[10:52] <Dr_willis> amin1,  try making a new user and see if startx works for them.
[10:53] <SupaFly> do you have a live CD amin?
[10:53] <Dr_willis> You could correct the typos in your error posting also. :)
[10:53] <Epicenter> lordleemo: this looks nice. thanks!
[10:53] <amin1> i dont hav the live cd
[10:53] <amin1> i install it from my harddrive
[10:53] <ThorStein> but to install this package i need to unistall the older version
[10:53] <SupaFly> ah ok
[10:53] <lordleemo> Epicenter: i use it all the time good bit of kit .
[10:53] <Epicenter> lordleemo: Guess it's not in any repositories?
[10:54] <amin1> how do i reinstall
[10:54] <SupaFly> can you burn an iso amin1?
[10:54] <ThorStein> and to unistall th older version i have uninstall so many packages
[10:54] <amin1> i dont hav a cd burner
[10:54] <lordleemo> Epicenter: on the download page add the repo
[10:54] <jeppe> hello
[10:54] <SupaFly> ok, sounds like your dl is corrupt or something i guess
[10:54] <ThorStein> how can do it whthout uninnstall all packages in my computer?
[10:54] <AD7six> any opinions as to whether "ICE default IO error handler doing an exit() ... " means a) hd failure immenent b) software/config problem c) other?
[10:55] <amin1> supafly: how do i reinstall
[10:55] <Epicenter> my god Synaptic is a slow program
[10:55] <SupaFly> i think you may have to do a bit of searching with google amin1
[10:55] <amin1> ok
[10:55] <SupaFly> look around for how-to install Ubuntu via dl
[10:55] <SupaFly> or something like that
[10:56] <wil> can anyone recommend any good fla/flash editing programs for ubuntu?
[10:56] <amin1> via dl?
[10:56] <SupaFly> by way of download
[10:56] <online_> AD7six: not having any success at SVN chan
[10:56] <online_> there is no one there
[10:56] <amin1> ooh
[10:57] <gabbarinho> does laptop mode have to be enabled in gutsy or is that done automatically now? the installation seemed to recognize that my computer was a laptop
[10:57] <AD7six> online_: my tactic whenever I get an svn problem is 1) copy the local copy 2) delete all .svn folders 3) svn co a new copy 4) copy de-svn-ed version over new co.
[10:58] <solidnail> hello anyone der and want to cat?
[10:59] <Epicenter> ....
[10:59] <Epicenter> uh.
[10:59] <hend> more into echo, sorry
[10:59] <Epicenter> solidnail: words fail me.
[10:59] <solidnail> Epicenter padon me?
[10:59] <Dr_willis> gabbarinho,  theres extra laptop features and tools that are not installed by default
[10:59] <Epicenter> That was incoherent :)
[10:59] <online_> Right AD7six: nice strategy
[11:00] <Survivorman> How do you install those additional features?
[11:00] <solidnail> Epicenter can we murder something
[11:00]  * hend grabs his box of squirrels
[11:02] <gabbarinho> thanks, dr
[11:03] <rasputin_> hi
[11:03] <gabbarinho> what are those features? i've never been sure what exactly is different in laptop mode
[11:03]  * rasputin_ just wanted to say hi, and bye bye.
[11:03] <SupaFly> erm wtf, i just updated my Kubuntu 7.10 and it says "new distro available" wanting me to upgrade to 7.10, but im running 7.10 wth??
[11:04] <solidnail> all the pakis please stand up please stand up
[11:05]  * solidnail jonybravo iraq war is going on and you are doing this
[11:05] <Survivorman> gabba, at least one feature is for battery usage
[11:05] <Dr_willis> gabbarinho,  powersaving tweaks mainly from what ive seen.
[11:05] <gabbarinho> ah
[11:06] <Dr_willis> there was a big stink a few months back about hard drives getting set to too strong a powersaving mode under ubuntu also.
[11:06] <gabbarinho> i noticed that my display dims automatically after about 15 seconds of inactivity
[11:06] <gabbarinho> ah
[11:06] <solidnail> all the pakis please stand up please stand up
[11:06] <Dr_willis> Other then that - i really havent noticed much differance. :0
[11:06] <gabbarinho> i guess there are still kinks to be worked out
[11:07] <gabbarinho> but as someone who stayed away from linux for ten years after one bad experience i have to say things are much, much easier now :)
[11:07] <Survivorman> I just read it can cause "odd behaviors"
[11:07] <qdzheng> hello everyone.
[11:07] <jpatrick> !ops | solidnail - ot, rude
[11:07] <ubotu> solidnail - ot, rude: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[11:07] <Dr_willis> gabbarinho,  what if you had a bad experience with windows... You would have to go back to  the C64 then. :)
[11:07] <gabbarinho> i guess the difference there is that i know how to use windows, so if a problem arises, i usually know what to do with it :)
[11:07] <mich54> hey guys , i need to install the lzo library , so can anyone tell me the rest of the command : apt-get install ......           ????
[11:08] <Dr_willis> !find lzo
[11:08] <ubotu> Found: liblzo2-2, liblzo2-dev, libcompress-lzo-perl, liblzo-dev, liblzo1 (and 1 others)
[11:08] <wil> are there any good flash editing programs for ubuntu?
[11:08] <Dr_willis> mich54,  one of those Im guessing. :)
[11:08] <gabbarinho> i hung onto an aging powerbook for two years just for the expose feature. so being able to run something like compiz on all my computers is a life changer for me :)
[11:08] <mich54> Dr_willis : thx :)
[11:09] <qdzheng> I have a problem: I compiler a module for my usb to serial adapter,but when I run insmod, I got an error:  -1 Unknown symbol in module
[11:09] <qdzheng> anyone can give me an idea?
[11:10] <Dr_willis> i dont find expose that needed under linux/kde/gnome. plus the compiz features that are similer.. dont work too good with my dual monitor setup. :)
[11:10] <qdzheng>  I have a problem: I compile a module for my usb to serial adapter,but when I run insmod, I got an error:  -1 Unknown symbol in module
[11:10] <qdzheng> anyone can help me?
[11:10] <gabbarinho> ah
[11:11] <gabbarinho> well the multiple desktops alone make handling multiple windows much easier
[11:11] <Dr_willis> its just easier to manage all the open windows with gnome, then it seems to be with OS-X
[11:11] <gabbarinho> yes. it works differently, but just as well or better :)
[11:11] <gabbarinho> i'm surprised how well it works with my laptop video
[11:11] <dondong> hi,ever1
[11:12] <Dr_willis> night all..
[11:12] <dondong> i've  got a problem,how to change awn icons?
[11:14] <qdzheng>  I have a problem: I compile a module for my usb to serial adapter,but when I run insmod, I got an error:  -1 Unknown symbol in module, can anyone help me?
[11:14] <dondong> anyone can help me change awn icons?i dont like the file browser icon and neither the terminal icon
[11:15] <Survivorman> Right click on an icon and select change icon
[11:15] <Survivorman> Sometimes you need to restart awn to see changes.
[11:16] <Survivorman> Also, if you have the taskmanager enabled, usually the default icon is used when multiple windows are open
[11:16] <orgedus> hello
[11:16] <Survivorman> In which case you could change the default program icon
[11:16] <dondong> Survivorman: it doesnt work,i tried right click,but no option
[11:17] <Survivorman> It just worked for me... what does happen?
[11:17] <Survivorman> Anything?
[11:17] <orgedus> I've just installed Ubuntu and I'm trying to get my Artec T14 digitv device work
[11:18] <dondong> Survivorman: i can only change trash icon by right click
[11:18] <magnetron> orgedus: does ubuntu have a driver for it?
[11:18] <orgedus> yeah
[11:18] <orgedus> and Kaffeine found the channels but I can only hear voice, no picture
[11:19] <Survivorman> That's very odd... have you run awn prior? Are you running an older version?
[11:19] <dondong> Survivorman: no other version, this one is the first time i install
[11:19] <orgedus> and when I start Kaffeine it says "Can't bind info socket"
[11:20] <Survivorman> try closing awn and restarting. it can be buggy, so you might want to give it a go and try again.
[11:20] <qdzheng>  I have a problem: I compile a module for my usb to serial adapter,but when I run insmod, I got an error:  -1 Unknown symbol in module, can anyone help me?
[11:20] <Survivorman> I've had mixed results with awn in the past, though at the moment it works well for me.
[11:20] <dondong> Survivorman: by the way,when i right click the menu icon,it opens the menu as left click did
[11:21] <tich> i am thinking of buying a samsung media player but i want to make sure it works okay with ubuntu; i don't know much about how to tell.  here is the specs page:  http://www.samsung.com/my/products/audio/mp3player/yp_p2ab.asp?page=Specifications
[11:21] <tich> let me know what you think
[11:21] <orgedus> magnetron: KMPlayer can't find my device, although I've installed that
[11:21] <dondong> Survivorman: should i shut down x?
[11:21] <Survivorman> Well that is odd... you could give it a try.
[11:22] <dondong> Survivorman: thanks anyway
[11:22] <Survivorman> np
[11:23] <dondong> yeah,is there a awn channel?
[11:23] <orgedus> can somebody help me with my Artec T14
[11:26] <Guillaum3> just so every1 knows. if your lan hostnames dont resolve but you can ping ip's. you can try  "...and the "wins" parameter needs to be added to the "hosts:" line in the /etc/nsswitch.conf file".
[11:26] <Survivorman> yes, #awn at irc.gnome.org
[11:26] <Guillaum3> ALTERNATIVELY: sudo apt-get install winbind
[11:26] <Guillaum3> instant win.
[11:26] <theopacman> Ok chaps new to Xchat Gnome, how would I get to irc.fumbbl.com/667
[11:26] <Guillaum3> i can see hostnames and access the win pc's unts unts unts.
[11:26] <theopacman> 6667 not 667
[11:31] <cyroul> hi everyone
[11:33] <theopacman> anybody help me navigate to irc.fumbbl.com/6667
[11:33] <DoYouKnow> hi cyroul
[11:43] <_mug> hey
[11:44] <_mug> im running ubuntu 7.10 and i just installed vmware server 1.04. my problem ist the parport-printer. vmware says that parport0 cant be accessed, because another program ist using it. i stopped cups, but that didnt help. any suggestions?
[11:45] <_mug> ist-is
[11:45] <orgedus> can somebody help me with my Artec T14
[11:46] <cyroul> is there a way to reinstall all packages
[11:46] <cyroul> ?
[11:47] <cyroul> without synaptic
[11:47] <cyroul> ....
[11:47] <odysseas> yeah reinstall ubuntu
[11:47] <cyroul> lol no way
[11:48] <danand_> cyroul - you could run dpkg -l to get a list of all installed packages - then reinstall with apt-get via a script - just an idea!
[11:48] <odysseas> I dont see any difference from reinstalling all packages
[11:48] <cyroul> good idea
[11:51] <danand_> ie PKGLIST=`dpkg -l` ... for p in $PKGLIST; do; apt-get --reinstall -s install $p; done
[11:52] <cyroul> danand: nice  one thks
[11:52] <Yodude> hey i have aerious probelm, i was altering some application persmissions in /usr/bin and when i restarted sound stopped working ! and firefox is giving me this message "component returned failure code:0*80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nslstringbundle.formatstringfromname] !!!! can i fix this ?
[11:52] <danand_> cyroul - you'll need to sort out the package name from the output of dpkg -l though - using "cut" would be easiest i think
[11:52] <cyroul> with awk
[11:52] <cvasilak> hi any good front-end for xmame under gnome?
[11:53] <cyroul> yodude: reinstall firefox :)
[11:54] <Yodude> cyroul: and what about sound not working ?
[11:56] <danand_> cyroul - PKGLIST=`dpkg -l | cut --delimiter=" " --fields=3`
[11:57] <danand_> cyroul - check that though - no implied warranties etc :)
[11:58] <Yodude> please can someone help me get the sound working ?
[11:59] <coincoin161> Yodude maybe i can help you
[11:59] <jpatrick> !sound | Yodude
[11:59] <coincoin161> what is your problem
[11:59] <coincoin161> ?
[11:59] <ubotu> Yodude: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:01] <cyroul> danand:  dpkg -l | awk -F" " '{print $2}'  works fine
[12:01] <Yodude> coincoin161: sound is totlay screwed, when i click on the volume control icon i get this message : No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.
[12:01] <Arelis> Can i ask a question? maybe the reason why everything has been so "unstable" (as I describe it), is because of a wrong ISO image. For example a wrong processor architecture. I have a AMD Sempron 2800+ processor. I don't know the functionality of the hardware in this PC. Can anybody help me select the right iso image?
[12:03] <daekdroom> Arelis, i368, if your Sempron supports AMD64, x64 works too
[12:03] <AxeZ> i386 would be just fine
[12:04] <danand_> cyroul - cool :) - just watch the first entries in that list - think we've got a few lines that aren't packages - thats the same with cut or awk methods
[12:05] <thyultimate> hello
[12:05] <dondong> hi,still the problem,i cant change my awn icon,any1 help me
[12:06] <thyultimate> can someone tell me how to get delgue to download straight into NTFS partition, when i was using linux mint it did it, but it ubuntu its not doing it
[12:07] <xander> howdo i install quake3??
[12:08] <OwnLinux> install quak4
[12:08] <xander> yes
[12:08] <xander> qukae 4 or earlier versions on ubuntu
[12:08] <OwnLinux> *.run file?
[12:09] <Shai> spoon
[12:09] <thyultimate> erm
[12:09] <Seveas> knife
[12:10] <Arelis> AxeZ: Well, the one i have is i386
[12:10] <thyultimate> any ideas?
[12:10] <GaryGibso> I don't like it
[12:10] <xander> can u give me the link to download quake4
[12:10] <GaryGibso> Yes, that sounds like a good idea
[12:10] <Seveas> thyultimate, make sure the ntfs partition is mounted rw and that you can write to it
[12:11] <danand_> !whois
[12:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about whois - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:11] <thyultimate> Seveas: how do i make sure of that?
[12:11] <Seveas> !ntfs | thyultimate
[12:11] <ubotu> thyultimate: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[12:11] <danand_> !who > danand_
[12:11] <thyultimate> thanks
[12:11] <danand_> !who
[12:11] <ubotu> As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[12:12] <Seveas> !msgthebot | danand_
[12:12] <ubotu> danand_: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[12:12] <xander> my soundcard on lenovo y410 isnt working
[12:12] <xander> can anyone help me
[12:12] <xander> sound isnt getting enabled
[12:12] <cyroul> danand: was a very good idea I got it
[12:12] <cyroul> danan: thanks mate
[12:13] <thyultimate> since i have removed windows completely and running only ubuntu, is there any way for me to convert the ntfs to ext3??? i have around 80gb data on it and doesnt sound fun to back all that up on dvds
[12:13] <shishirm1> hi help me configure nvidia drivers on dell xps laptop
[12:13] <ubuntu> howdy, hardy experts here ? I just upgraded to that and now the machien wont boot. The problem is that root = md0 and that's for somereason is not activated
[12:13] <danand_> cyroul - you got that to work?
[12:13] <Seveas> !pm | GaryGibso
[12:13] <ubotu> GaryGibso: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[12:13] <daekdroom> ubuntu, go to #ubuntu+1
[12:13] <cyroul> yep
[12:13] <Seveas> thyultimate, there isn't, sorry
[12:13] <daekdroom> This channel doesn't give support for Hardy
[12:13] <H4nta> Hi. I cannot manually mount cifs as user (I can as root), even though I have given user permission to user: sudo chmod u+s `which mount.cifs`. fstab is not really an option as the share is sometimes not there.
[12:13] <ubuntu> daekdroom: which channel does then ?
[12:14] <daekdroom> as i told you, #ubuntu+1
[12:14] <Seveas> ubuntu, #ubuntu+1
[12:14] <danand_> cyroul - nice one - just hope you end up with a stable system at the end of that ;)
[12:14] <thyultimate> Seveas: oh, then ill just have to live with it
[12:14] <bahr> Hi is it possible to syncronize evolution calendar with a Windows Mobile Smartphone?
[12:16] <nuno_nunes> !fr
[12:16] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:16] <bahr> I just switched to Ubuntu some days ago, and I used to use Outlook, and I actually like this Evolutioni app, but it's really important for me to be able syncronize my tasks and calendars
[12:16] <Epicenter> Hello! What is a good application I can install to manage my wireless card/wired network adapter, and select APs, set my IP, DNS, turn on/off DHCP, etc? Thank you! (p.s. it would be best if it had a GUI..) I tried WICD but it doesn't seem to play nice with non-Gnome/KDE/XFCE desktop managers.
[12:16] <cyroul> danand: hope so too, should be fine, it justs reinstall the packages and don t change anything
[12:17] <RoboCop>  i need a server with root access. but i dont have much data transfer and connectivity speed requirments. can any one recomend a good lowest cost dedi.. and with root acces. vps dds ..?
[12:17] <[BT]JaC> hi there, i have an eggdrop somewhere on my machine but i dont know where it is
[12:17] <[BT]JaC> how can i find it
[12:18] <cyroul> locate eggdrop
[12:18] <[BT]JaC> ty
[12:18] <online_> hello
[12:18] <online_> have a problem with SVN
[12:19] <online_> missing a file
[12:19] <danand_> cyroul - just need to watch that config files don't get overwritten in the reinstall - maybe a good idea to make a backup of important files you've manually edited first. Agree though - much better than a reinstall
[12:19] <online_> is it possible to download the whole repo?
[12:19] <worph> hi, anybody have thinkpad t20? i have problem with acpi/apm computer dont restart,hibernate etc.
[12:19] <danand_> cyroul - *reinstall=complete fresh install i mean
[12:20] <thyultimate> Seveas: i think its already mounting, i mean i can read and write to it, its just that the torrent clients arent able to do that
[12:20] <thyultimate> mounted*
[12:20] <cyroul> danand: aptitude reinstall should do the job properly
[12:22] <danand_> online_ - think you can use a script like mkdebmirror (or something like that) - this creates a mirror of the repositories on the local system. You'll need _plenty_ of disk space though.
[12:23] <online_> danand_: the reason why I am asking is because I have this problem
[12:23] <online_> svn: In directory 'trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/libraries/moko-gtk-engine'
[12:23] <online_>  svn: Can't open 'trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/libraries/moko-gtk-engine/.svn/tmp/COPYING.tmp.tmp': Operation not permitted
[12:23] <online_> I have the whole dir on my disk but it is missing the file
[12:23] <online_> for some strange reason it is not there
[12:23] <online_> therefore I can not carry on and my build script does not work
[12:24] <AD7six> online_: that error is referring to the repository not your local copy
[12:24] <online_> right, I though that it was referring to my local disk
[12:25] <online_> yes I have checked the repo, and have found that I can not navigate beyond  /.svn, meaning that I can not see that folder
[12:25] <online_> made this conclusion, AD7six, what can I do ?
[12:25] <jimcooncat> I'm confused about updated dell bios. I see this beta firmware-tools from dell, but it doesn't look ready for prime time. And ubuntuforums have some very confusing directions. Any pointers?
[12:26] <Seveas> online_, contact the person who maintainse that repo and ask them to fix it
[12:26] <Arelis> Hi all. I'm trying to recover my bootloader that Ubuntu installed, but i have two harddrives on my computer. How do i know which harddrive the MBR is on?
[12:26] <danand_> cyroul - agreed - aptitude tends to be a bit "kinder" than plain apt-get
[12:26] <OwnLinux> dell notbook supports ubuntu well
[12:26] <Seveas> Arelis, it's on the first one
[12:26] <hetauma> hi! Anyone knows with what tool I can "copy" let's say pages 100-150 from a 500pges pdf to a new pdf?
[12:27] <jimcooncat> hetauma: pdftk is your friend
[12:27] <hetauma> jimcooncat, ty
[12:27] <online_> AD7six: how do you know that it is on the server rather than local?
[12:27] <Arelis> Seveas: It's more complicated than that: Before i had two HD's, the Ubuntu one was the first one. That had the bootloader on it. My dad added the Windows disk to my PC, and made it the master drive. So now i'm confused.
[12:27] <corporeal> i need some help with xe
[12:27] <corporeal> n
[12:27] <magnetron> is there a tool for extracting all the text from a PDF?
[12:28] <jimcooncat> hetauma: it's a command line tool. you would "burst" those pages you want into separate pdfs, then "cat" them back into your new pdf
[12:28] <cyroul> danand: sure it is, very good with broken packages
[12:28] <corporeal> what patches are applied to linux-source-2.6.22 to get the XEN stuff in there?
[12:28] <mohbana> what programs are good for managing cvs i.e. like deleting projects?
[12:28] <fuzzy> &nick fuzzy84
[12:28] <Seveas> mohbana, welcome to the 21st century, use a real revision control system
[12:28] <sunseeker888> Hi guys I have downloaded all the plug-ins for totems, and it is still saying pug in needed when I wan tot watch a dvd
[12:28] <esc> mornin
[12:29] <jimcooncat> OwnLinux: you have any tips for bios updating, please?
[12:29] <Seveas> !dvd | sunseeker888
[12:29] <ubotu> sunseeker888: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:29] <Arelis> Seveas: so what do i do?
[12:29] <esc> i am trying to adjust the volume using the hotkeys on my laptop
[12:29] <cyroul> magnetron: pdf2doc
[12:29] <mohbana> Seveas, i can't my uni has cvs only
[12:29] <OwnLinux> jimcooncat:  Sorry
[12:29] <AD7six> online_: they type of error message. the permissions are probably not correct for the repo folder.
[12:29] <Seveas> Arelis, check in the bios which one you boot from
[12:29] <magnetron> cyroul: ty
[12:29] <esc> it shows an on screen display, but the volume isn't actually being changed
[12:29] <Seveas> mohbana, sucks then :)
[12:29] <Arelis> Seveas: the first one.
[12:29] <fuzzy84> hi.. how could i use ubuntu to backup my xp running BSOD in safe mode =p
[12:30] <mohbana> well are there any cvs tools?
[12:30] <Seveas> Arelis, so my first answer applies :)
[12:30] <Arelis> Seveas: is it safe to overwrite that bootloader?
[12:30] <fuzzy84> i need to mount them up and back up documents and so on on my main hdd
[12:30] <danand_> sunseeker888 - do you have ffmpeg installed - try sudo apt-get -s install ffmpeg - think that could possibly help
[12:30] <online_> AD7six: so it is not necessarily that the file is not there but could be that it is simply not accessible
[12:30] <Seveas> Arelis, as safe as it is when installing ubuntu
[12:31] <alanbshepard70> I know there is a way to report bugs in ubuntu but is there a way to request hardware support for future releases? I own a dell and couldn't for the life of me get a pci video card to work. I always thought it was a conflict with just that card but after some searching I found that it has to do with the fact I own a dell and that it's a common issue for users. The fix was pretty straight forward once I knew what the issue was and it w
[12:31] <mohbana> what programs are good for managing cvs i.e. like deleting projects?
[12:31] <Arelis> Seveas: but the bootloader is on the first disk, which is the one dad forbids me to change.
[12:31] <Seveas> alanbshepard70, if it doesn't work out of the box that is a bug and should be filed as such
[12:31] <Arelis> Seveas: will switching boot order work?
[12:32] <Seveas> Arelis, it could
[12:32] <Seveas> depending on how confused grub gets :)
[12:32] <Arelis> Seveas: I'll try. I'll be back if it goes wrong :)
[12:32] <esc> amzingly they did work before i got fglrx to work with 3d acceleration
[12:32] <TimothyP> Hi, anybody here working with netatalk on ubuntu 7.10 ? I did a default apt-get install , the service is running, I see the client connecting int he log file, but the client (max os) says it can't connect to the server
[12:32] <eshaase> does anyone know if its possible to make xterm not scroll down to the bottom when something is printed to standard out?
[12:32] <alanbshepard70> Seveas: Ok, I wasn't sure what it was considered to be. I'll file a bug report. Thanks.
[12:33] <[BT]JaC> what are hld's
[12:34] <danand_> eshaase - I had that problem - very annoying when your using bitchx in a terminal. I use eterm though - Eterm --home-on-output=off
[12:34] <sunseeker888>  sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh, I am getting this "sudo: /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh: command not found". I have synaptic manager to install
[12:35] <theunixgeek> YAY Ubuntu's alive again!
[12:35] <Seveas> !dvd | sunseeker888
[12:35] <ubotu> sunseeker888: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:35] <zeeth> Hi everybody, I am new to ubuntu, I recently installed ubuntu 7.10(gutsy gibbon). It works great for me. But I am facing terribly slow net connection on it.
[12:35] <mohbana> can anyone please help i need  cvs tool that allows me to delete projects and stuff
[12:35] <Seveas> !repeat | mohbana
[12:35] <ubotu> mohbana: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:35] <zeeth> can anybody help me out how to resolve it
[12:36] <jorisslob> I can't get my HP K80 printer to work under Ubuntu, I search in the forums and found that other people were helped by using the hp-toolbox, but that doesn't seem to help me. Is there a step by step guide for printers and figuring out what is wrong?
[12:39] <danand_> eshaase - just checked for xterm - you need to use the -si argument - this stops xterm scrolling to the bottom of the screen on output
[12:39] <RoboCop>  i need a server with root access. but i dont have much data transfer and connectivity speed requirments. can any one recomend a good lowest cost dedi.. and with root acces. vps dds ..?
[12:40] <tschortscho> hallo zusammen
[12:40] <gilster> hello. after an update yesterday my madiwifi atheros drivers seem to have vanished?
[12:40] <jimcooncat> RoboCop: I have a recommendation, but it's probably not cool to advertise here. Should I pm you?
[12:41] <RoboCop> jimcooncat ok. pm me
[12:41] <eshaase> danand_: just tried this out, it holds the position in the window but text still scrolls through, i want to hold a partricular sectin of text
[12:41] <sn0> RoboCop depending on where you are, there are a few places really, i don't use them but bytemark in the uk have nice xen hosting, the guy who runs debian-administration.org works for them, maybe worth a look
[12:42] <abhishek> hi, i deleted the default user i made at ubuntu installation and creatd a new user, now which all groups should i add the "new" user to ?
[12:42] <RoboCop> sn0 - i need minminu cost. with no restrictions. ircd webhosting. i can do anything
[12:43] <sn0> RoboCop fyi http://www.bytemark.co.uk/
[12:43] <RoboCop> jimcooncat  good! whats shared uml?
[12:43] <sn0> personally i rent servers in another country co-located where bandwidth is cheaper (NL/DE) :)
[12:43] <jimcooncat> well, since others are doing it: linode.com
[12:43] <danand_> eshaase - hmm... i have that problem too with eterm. Try man xterm to see if there are any more options that could help you out ... you'll just have to slog through that man - its rather a big one :)
[12:44] <RoboCop> sn0 thanks!
[12:44] <sn0> your welcome :)
[12:44] <RoboCop> jimcooncat  i dont want restrictions. i may run ircd. webhosting. etc
[12:44] <eshaase> danand_: yeah, that why i'm asking, alot of the options i don't even understand =)
[12:44] <RoboCop> sn0 any more?
[12:44] <jimcooncat> RoboCop: User-mode linux, it's another type of virtualization similar, but not quite, to xen
[12:45] <chazco> Anyone know if it is possible to make Kaffeine use the correct EPG channel numbers when watching Freeview (DVB) in the UK? (without manually setting them)
[12:45] <lordleemo> jorisslob: http://hplip.sourceforge.net/   that should help you
[12:45] <danand_> abhishek - my user is part of the following (default) groups adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev scanner lpadmin admin netdev powerdev
[12:46] <jimcooncat> RoboCop: There are quite a few others out there. But there are some ripoffs, too. And a lot won't host IRC.
[12:46] <Tyczek> hi, how can i remove whole default kernel? including grub entries?
[12:46] <sn0> RoboCop not really, i use hetzner for dedicated co-lo, more money though :)
[12:46] <danand_> eshaase - :) stick with it - getting your hands dirty is the best way - just ask someone here if you get stuck
[12:47] <Epicenter> This is a bigger question and I can't seem to find a solution. As noted in this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion/+bug/136853 ... if the system is idle or you close the lid too long, the screen goes blank and there is no way to get it back except to reset the machine. It hasn't crashed, it's just a blank display. Does anyone have an idea for fixing it? Thank you!
[12:47] <RoboCop> sn0 hetzener.com?
[12:47] <_blue> i just installed ubuntu from a minimal iso (9meg-ish) and when i try ro update apt-get at the command line it cant resolve any addresses
[12:47] <sn0> hetzner.de RoboCop
[12:48] <RoboCop> k
[12:48] <david_J> _blue: Your /etc/resolv.conf?
[12:48] <RoboCop> sn0 ok
[12:48] <_blue> david_J: il check it now, forgive me im a bit slow, havent used linux in ages
[12:49] <sn0> RoboCop im not sure i would take irc recommendations for hosting :) you don't know if we are affiliated i guess, so choose wisely
[12:49] <thyultimate> hey i have emerald theme manager opened and i have imported themes, now how do u apply them?? after selecting them there doesnt seem to be an option to use them
[12:49] <david_J> _blue: If it doesn't have a nameserver in there.... Put one in..
[12:50] <RoboCop> sn0 ok. thanks!
[12:50] <RoboCop> jimcooncat thanks
[12:50] <_blue> david_J: name server 192.168.0.1    (thats the right address for my router)
[12:51] <david_J> _blue: Check your ethernet card and then the router
[12:51] <_blue> david_J: should i add my isp's dns server?
[12:51] <jimcooncat> RoboCop: sure. you can chat with other users at #linode on OFTC
[12:51] <RoboCop> ok
[12:51] <_blue> is it okay to add more than one nameserver?
[12:52] <david_J> _blue: You shouldn't need to if the router is set up correctly...
[12:52] <arnath> if you let the ubuntu installer use the "default" setup for partitioner, does it put /home on a seperate partition?
[12:52] <_blue> it works fine for windows machines so  i assume its okay
[12:52] <david_J> _blue: But yeah you can add more than one..
[12:53] <thyultimate> anyone?
[12:54] <cyroul> _blue: check resolv.conf
[12:54] <fuzzy84> how do i make a mount writable_
[12:54] <fuzzy84> ?
[12:54] <cyroul> if you ve got your dns server
[12:54] <cyroul> set tup
[12:54] <jrib> fuzzy84: what filesystem+
[12:54] <jorisslob> I just tried generic printer with PCL3 as well, but that didn't work either. It looks like I have to give up printing with my HP K80 under Ubuntu
[12:54] <_blue> how do i save and exit in nano?
[12:54] <fuzzy84> ntfs-3g
[12:54] <jrib> _blue: ctrl-o ctrl-x
[12:55] <jrib> !ntfs > fuzzy84 (read the private message from ubotu)
[12:55] <danand_> _blue - see if the command dig google.com turns up anything
[12:55] <_blue> dammit i forgot to sudo :(
[12:55] <david_J> _blue: Says on the bottom.
[12:55] <danand_> _blue ctrl-o = save ctrl-x = exit
[12:56] <_blue> ty very much it works wheni add the ISP's dns server
[12:56] <jorisslob> lordleemo: I tried hplip. hp-toolbox is part of that suite. It does install my printer (it recognizes it correctly). But then fails to print anything, including the test page.
[12:57] <fuzzy84> jrib: its on a live cd, not a real install, the main pri here is that i need to backup all documents from a crashing windows...
[12:57] <jrib> fuzzy84: you can still use ntfs-config on the live cd.  What exactly do you want to do?
[12:57] <jrib> fuzzy84: just do 'gksudo nautilus' then
[12:58] <gaovi> 。
[12:59] <fuzzy84> im not sure if the drive got mounted as writable..
[12:59] <lordleemo> jorisslob: thats weird worked well for me m8 hang on ill check around for you
[12:59] <cyroul> check your fstab
[12:59] <jrib> fuzzy84: you'll know after you try
[13:00] <fuzzy84> i can delete files on the removable hdd, but it says i still have 12.6 gb left
[13:00] <jorisslob> lordleemo: If it helps, hp-info tells me device is busy
[13:01] <jrib> fuzzy84: check .Trash
[13:01] <zh> need help:i need a good firewall software
[13:01] <jorisslob> lordleemo: But the printer itself says nothing special on its display
[13:01] <jrib> !firewall | zh
[13:01] <ubotu> zh: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[13:01] <SmashCat> Hello, I want to build ffmpeg-php on my system, but it fails as the ffmpeg headers are missing (ffmpeg is installed) A search shows there is no dev package for ffmpeg for ubuntu. Anyone know if there's another repo i can use?
[13:01] <H4nta> Hi. I cannot manually do  cifs mount as user (I can as root), even though I have given user permission to user: sudo chmod u+s `which mount.cifs`. fstab is not really an option as the share is sometimes not there. i forced it using chmod 755 but mount.cifs stilll returns an error. Only sudo works and it's really confusing
[13:01] <cyroul> zh: fwbuilder very good
[13:01] <cyroul> fwbuilder will help you a lot with a nice GUI
[13:02] <zh> thanks
[13:02] <jaggy> where can i learn about file rights ? ( write, read, non at all, .. )
[13:02] <cyroul> with google
[13:02] <jaggy> ...
[13:03] <jrib> !permissions > jaggy (read the private message from ubotu)
[13:03] <Epicenter> This is a bigger question and I can't seem to find a solution. As noted in this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion/+bug/136853 ... if the system is idle or you close the lid too long, the screen goes blank and there is no way to get it back except to reset the machine. It hasn't crashed, it's just a blank display. Does anyone have an idea for fixing it? Thank you!
[13:03] <jrib> cyroul: please don't do that
[13:03] <jaggy> ty
[13:03] <Epicenter> jrib: THANK you
[13:03] <fuzzy84> nice, now it works =)
[13:05] <cyroul> jaggy: http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugfilesp.html   very good tuto
[13:09] <tyler> whoami
[13:09] <bahr> how do I get this 3d cube effect, after i have installed these effect packages?
[13:09] <jorisslob> lordleemo: I saw that people also sugested removing the synaptic version of hplip 2.7.7 and going for the 2.8.2 on the website
[13:09] <jorisslob> lordleemo: I am going to try that now
[13:09] <acomaco> Hey dudes/girls.. Anyone know how to config ctrlproxy? :)
[13:09] <SmashCat> Why does Ubuntu only make the binary version of ffmpeg available, and not source? Doesn't seem to be in the spirit of open source.
[13:10] <lordleemo> jorisslob: ok m8 try dl the version from there site
[13:10] <jrib> SmashCat: 'apt-get source ffmpeg'
[13:10] <lordleemo> jorisslob:  ill keep looking further for u ok
[13:10] <jorisslob> lordleemo: I'll let you know if this fixes my problem
[13:11] <DoYouKnow> Anyone know of any projects that are similar to hotwire in that they seek to develop an object-oriented shell?
[13:11] <DoYouKnow> I found hotwire on google
[13:11] <DoYouKnow> was wondering if there is anything else I should look at
[13:11] <SmashCat> jrib: thanks
[13:11] <lordleemo> jorisslob: ok m8 i used the one from there site not synaptic and works like a charm here
[13:11] <jrib> SmashCat: that's how you get the source of every package
[13:11] <danand_> bahr - sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager should give you an entry in System -> Prefefences -> Advanced Desktop Effect Settings where you can configure the behaviour of compiz
[13:12] <zubat> Hi I have been trying to get tv out working on ubuntu with my nvidia fx5500 card but I have seen nothing on the tv, I have editied xorg.conf to run 2 X-Screens
[13:12] <SmashCat> jrib: Ok, i need it as Ubuntu don't have a dev package for ffmpeg, so it's not possible to build other things against it.
[13:12] <jorisslob> lordleemo: Hopefully it's just a version thing then...
[13:12] <void^> SmashCat: could be libavcodec-dev
[13:12] <jrib> yes
[13:13] <SmashCat> So  libavcodec-dev == ffmpeg-dev ?
[13:13] <jrib> SmashCat: what are you trying to compile?
[13:13] <SmashCat> jrib: ffmpeg-php
[13:14] <cyroul> _bahr: check this tuto, very good, it worked for me http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=572019
[13:14] <Sancho> culo1
[13:14] <jrib> SmashCat: look at the deps from the hardy package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/source/ffmpeg-php
[13:15] <asdrubal> rockbox
[13:15] <bahr> cyroul: thank you.
[13:15] <asdrubal> Sup mah bros!
[13:15] <void^> linking against ffmpeg usually means linking against libavcodec. ffmpeg is a project consisting of several parts, the ffmpeg package itself contains little more than a frontend afaik.
[13:16] <SmashCat> jrib: So hardy is another repository I need to add?
[13:16] <jrib> SmashCat: no, that will break your system.  I'm just telling you that that page lists the name of the dependencies you need
[13:17] <cyroul> bahr: this tuto is more appropriate for the cube http://www.thelinuxnewbie.com/2007/10/21/running-desktop-visual-effects-on-gutsy-gibbon-ubuntu-710/
[13:17] <SmashCat> jrib: Ok, thanks. I'm thinking it might be faster to just build php + ffmpeg etc from source...
[13:18] <jrib> SmashCat: k
[13:18] <Aklen> hi
[13:19] <cerberus> got a problem with aptitude, when I run an install it tells me about 200 hundred packages are marked as no longer used and wants to remove them only problem is some of these packages are critical packages, how do I stop it doing that?
[13:19] <Xsss4hell_> hi
[13:19] <SchwarzeKrause> I wanted to switch to Ubuntu, but for that I need some packages. Namely, kernel 2.6.23 and alsa 1.0.15 Is there a way to get not the current kernel 2.6.24, but the 2.6.23.14?
[13:20] <jrib> cerberus: one way is to explicitly tell it to install those packages.  There may be a better way
[13:20] <danand_> bahr - http://ulyssesonline.com/2007/10/25/compiz-fusion-keyboard-shortcuts/
[13:20] <Xsss4hell_> I'm trying to compile gst-pulse-0.9.7 http://0pointer.de/lennart/projects/gst-pulse/ but I get an error. configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[13:20] <cyroul> the 3D effects on Gutsy are fantastic:-D
[13:20] <Xsss4hell_> Can somebody Help?
[13:20] <Yodude> hey my sound ios still not working on this account, on the other ubuntu user accounts it is working though, what should i do ?
[13:20] <cerberus> jrib, yeah that might work, I googled around extensively (never ask for help till Ive looked) but I cant find a concise answer to it though it pops up on the forums alot
[13:20] <jrib> !compile > Xsss4hell_ (read the private message from ubotu)
[13:21] <Boglizk> My window shadows sometimes still exists after the windows are closed, the only fix is to disable 'Window decoration' and re-enable.
[13:21] <void^> SchwarzeKrause: the current ubuntu release uses kernel 2.6.22 and alsa 1.0.14
[13:21] <danand_> Yodude - type groups in a terminal - check your user is part of the audio group
[13:22] <Yodude> danand: k i'll check
[13:23] <SchwarzeKrause> void^: I meant I wanted to install the 7.10, but use some packages from 8.04
[13:23] <Xsss4hell_> I cannot install build-essential. There is a dependancy problem
[13:23] <Yodude> danand: there's no "audio" group
[13:23] <Xsss4hell_> can somebody help with that. it seems that's the problem..
[13:23] <david08> hello. i used to use gdesklets, then i stopped using linux. now i am back, and was wondering was program was the best nowadays for eye candy
[13:23] <david08> any ideas?
[13:24] <cyroul> Xsss4ell: use aptitude install build-essential
[13:24] <jrib> Xsss4hell_: pastebin the error you get
[13:24] <Xsss4hell_> I have kernel 2.6.24 and Ubuntu 7.10
[13:24] <Xsss4hell_> ok
[13:24] <void^> SchwarzeKrause: 2.6.23 is neither in 7.10 nor in 8.04
[13:24] <jrib> Xsss4hell_: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list too
[13:25] <Yodude> can someone help me fix the sound output on this account ?
[13:25] <danand_> Yodude - try cat /etc/group | grep audio to check if there is an audio group
[13:25] <Wibble-> Is it possible to remove window decorations from one specific window? With a hotkey would be ideal!
[13:25] <danand_> Yodude - patience - i'm a slow typist
[13:26] <Yodude> danand: np lol i'll check and post back
[13:26] <david08> what about gdesklets, is there anything better or should i install that?
[13:26] <danand_> Yodude - k :)
[13:26] <Xsss4hell_> jrib it says: build-essential: depends on: »libc6-dev« but it's not getting installed or libc-dev depends on »g++« but it's not getting installed
[13:27] <jrib> Xsss4hell_: k, pastebin that and your sources.list
[13:27] <jrib> !paste > Xsss4hell_ (read the private message from ubotu)
[13:27] <thyultimate> how can i use my webcam on ubuntu???
[13:27] <jrib> !webcam > thyultimate (read the private message from ubotu)
[13:27] <cyroul> Xssss4hell have you tried to install this libraries first ?
[13:28] <Yodude> danand: oh yes yes i see it! after i typed "cat /etc/group" i got a line like this one "audio:x:29:mum,hamada", so how do i add myself to the group ?
[13:28] <danand_> Yodude - sudo adduser _your_user_name_ audio
[13:28] <Xsss4hell_> cyroul no. just after jrib told me to
[13:28] <david08> i installed kopete, is there a way to install the functionalities that msn plus adds to the original msn?
[13:28] <popey> david08: what features?
[13:29] <Xsss4hell_> jrib sources.list http://pastebin.ca/898593
[13:29] <david08> popey: like the colors in the name and ecc
[13:29] <danand_> Yodude - after you should be able to "cat /etc/group | grep audio" and see a line like "audio:x:29:mum,hamada,_your_user_name_"
[13:30] <jrib> Xsss4hell_: how did you get the 2.6.24 kernel?
[13:30] <Yodude> dandand: yes i do see it
[13:30] <david08> popey: now i see [c=16]....i should see the name colored in that colour instead of the cod
[13:30] <danand_> Yodude - and play sound hopefully :)
[13:30] <Yodude> dandand: i'll log out and back in and check
[13:30] <Yodude> bi';ll brb
[13:30] <danand_> Yodude - k
[13:30] <Xsss4hell_> jrib I used this script to update my kernel to 2.6.24 it worked. http://axebase.net/blog/?p=178
[13:31] <thyultimate> ok ty
[13:31] <Xsss4hell_> jrib then I installed pulseaudio etc.. and followed this tutorial until I needed to compile something: http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup
[13:31] <Xsss4hell_> now I just noticed that I have a dependancy problem..
[13:31] <jorisslob> lordleemo: No, the new version didn't help
[13:32] <cyroul> anyone has tried TOR, it slows internet"down, is there anything to do
[13:32] <lordleemo> jorisslob: is it networked or local
[13:32] <Boglizk> cyroul: Duh.. its a proxy
[13:32] <Yodude> dandand: it worked !!!!! thnx a lot man you save my system from a reinstall ! hehe but i'm curious why didn't the "audioi" group appear in the GUI user administration tool ?
[13:32] <jorisslob> lordleemo: It's local, using USB
[13:32] <popey> Xsss4hell_ jrib isn't that procedure dangerous? you wont get any security updates for those kernels..
[13:32] <jrib> Xsss4hell_, popey: agreed
[13:33] <cyroul> boglizk, more or less I use privoxy for the proxy
[13:33] <Yodude> dandand_: thnx a lot
[13:33] <danand_> Yodude - :) nice one - at least your working - but that does seem strange
[13:33] <lordleemo> jorisslob: apparently some peeps have had the same problem  can you try doing this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/117825/comments/29
[13:33] <Xsss4hell_> yes^but I'll install ubuntu hardy heron on april ;) I'll have enough experience with kernels and dependancy problem until then  :D
[13:33] <Yodude> dandand_: yes i know, and  i'm curious why didn't the "audioi" group appear in the GUI user administration tool ?
[13:34] <popey> Xsss4hell_: there is a kernel vulnerability right now though.. you'd leave yourself vulnerable for 2 months
[13:34] <Yodude> dandand: i was tempering with the /usr/bin permissions maybe i slipped an did something wrong
[13:35] <Xsss4hell_> I have 2.6.24-7
[13:35] <danand_> Yodude - wierd - the audio group doesn't appear in my GUI tool either
[13:35] <Yodude> dandand_: and a lot of other groups too
[13:35] <danand_> Yodude - perhaps a reason to stick with CLI for some things :)
[13:35] <Xsss4hell_> And I still can update to the next kernel when I want to, right?
[13:36] <Yodude> dandand_: yeah totally
[13:36] <jrib> Yodude, danand_: properties -> user privileges -> use audio/sound
[13:36] <Yodude> dandand: good ol' UNIX terminals never die
[13:36] <Xsss4hell_> jrib what's your expert opinion about my dependancy problem?
[13:37] <jrib> Xsss4hell_: what files do you have in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ?
[13:37] <Yodude> jrib: oh yeah you're right
[13:37] <danand_> jrib - Ahh! Got it - still prefer CLI though
[13:37] <Yodude> jrib: but they have been put into the groups section, a lot more intuitive i think
[13:37] <Yodude> anyway i'm rocking on with music now hehe
[13:37] <danand_> Yodude - :)
[13:37] <jorisslob> lordleemo: Ok, I will try with a complete restart and cupsys restart
[13:38] <Yodude> dandand_: again thnx a bunch, i knew a fix was available and that i didn't need to reinstall lol -- then it wouldn't be linux would it ?
[13:38] <Xsss4hell_> jrib /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[13:38] <lordleemo> jorisslob: ok m8 apparently its worked well for a few others do it as stated there m8
[13:39] <jrib> Xsss4hell_: run 'sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy build-essential g++ libc6-dev' and pastebin the output
[13:39] <danand_> Yodude - not really - theres always an alternative to reinstall. glad i could help.
[13:39] <deny> hiiiiiiiii
[13:39] <danand_> bye all
[13:39] <cwe_lgijomblo> yaiyalah
[13:40] <cwe_lgijomblo_> kamu mau gak jadi pacar aku
[13:40] <cwe_lgijomblo_> kamu
[13:40] <Xsss4hell_> jrib http://pastebin.ca/898602
[13:40] <Epicenter> What version of Ubuntu has XOrg 1.2? This bug indicates the only way to fix an extremely serious problem is to downgrade... (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion/+bug/136853)
[13:40] <Epicenter> What version of Ubuntu has XOrg 1.2? This bug indicates the only way to fix an extremely serious problem is to downgrade... (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion/+bug/136853
[13:41] <cwe_lgijomblo_> ho
[13:41] <Epicenter> whoops
[13:41] <Xsss4hell_> the output is german, I can translate it if you want to. just ask
[13:41] <cwe_lgijomblo_> uhfaufhuea
[13:41] <jrib> !id | cwe_lgijomblo_
[13:41] <cwe_lgijomblo_> juy
[13:41] <ubotu> cwe_lgijomblo_: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[13:41] <Xsss4hell_> But I think you see, that something seems to be damaged..
[13:41] <cwe_lgijomblo_> kamu
[13:41] <Xsss4hell_> my head, or ubuntu :D
[13:41] <SmashCat> Is there a way to find which build options were used with a particular package?
[13:41] <jrib> SmashCat: apt-get source PACKAGE and read debial/rules
[13:42] <cwe_lgijomblo_> aku di batujajar
[13:42] <SmashCat> jrib: Thanks.
[13:42] <jrib> cwe_lgijomblo_: /join #ubuntu-id
[13:42] <cwe_lgijomblo_> kamu siapa
[13:42] <cyroul> anyone has a ACPI Error at the boot ? can't find anything to fix it
[13:43] <cyroul> ACPI Error (dsopcode-0548): Field [I9MN] at 544 exceeds Buffer [IORT] size 464 (bits) [20070126]
[13:43] <cyroul> ACPI Error (psparse-0551): Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_.PCI0.LPC0.PMIO._CRS] (Node df812810), AE_AML_BUFFER_LIMIT
[13:43] <cyroul> ACPI Error (uteval-0236): Method execution failed [\_SB_.PCI0.LPC0.PMIO._CRS] (Node df812810), AE_AML_BUFFER_LIMIT
[13:43] <cyroul> pnp: PnPACPI: METHOD_NAME__CRS failure for PNP0c02
[13:43] <cwe_lgijomblo_> kamu mau gaK JADI PACAR AKU
[13:43] <FloodBot1> cyroul: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:43] <deny> nama gw deny
[13:43] <cyroul> sorry
[13:43] <cwe_lgijomblo_> MAU
[13:43] <Lythium> òèïà çäðàñòå
[13:43] <deny> gw mauuuuuuuuu
[13:44] <jrib> Xsss4hell_: try installing g++ and libc6-dev directly.  You'll probably get new errors that may be helpful.  Usually this is because some dependency down the road was intalled outside of the repositories
[13:44] <Xsss4hell_> jrib do you know what it is?
[13:44] <Xsss4hell_> k, I'll report back
[13:45] <deny> k;k
[13:46] <jorisslob> lordleemo: I'm one step closer, this is the first time that hp-info actually returned anything useful
[13:46] <white_eagle> ah yes
[13:46] <davidw> hi dudes - any suggestions on what to do about burning an .iso that's 6.7 gigs to a DVD?
[13:47] <Xsss4hell_> jrib: here it is: g++ and then libc6-dev -> http://pastebin.ca/898609
[13:47] <lordleemo> jorisslob: did you follow exact m8
[13:47] <mohbana> hey guys is there some sort of support for 5.1+ sound cards, the sound is bad comapred to windows
[13:47] <momal> snd_pcm_open() failed <-- can anyone help me for some reason suddenly I can't get any sound in kubuntu 7.10
[13:47] <davidw> googling reveals people using dvdshrink with wine
[13:48] <jrib> Xsss4hell_: can you run it as 'LANGUAGE=en_US sudo apt-get install g++' ?
[13:48] <SmashCat> Forgot how slow my server is when it has to build from source ;-)
[13:48] <jorisslob> I will give it one more go... uninstall printer, unplug printer, reboot, restart cupsys, replug printer, install printer, try
[13:48] <Jangari> what sort of dvd is it, davidw?
[13:49] <davidw> dvd-r
[13:49] <davidw> the one I'd like to burn the iso to
[13:49] <Xsss4hell_> jrib jep no problem m8 -> http://pastebin.ca/898613
[13:49] <Jangari> okay, what sort of media? data, video?
[13:49] <davidw> video.. it's a dvd dvd
[13:49] <jrib> Xsss4hell_: Look at what it says about your libc6 version, that's the problem
[13:50] <mohbana> hey guys is there some sort of support for 5.1+ sound cards, the sound is bad comapred to windows
[13:50] <Jangari> mm, compressing it is a good option
[13:50] <Xsss4hell_> jrib it says: libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.6.1-1ubuntu10) but 2.7-5ubuntu2 is to be installed
[13:50] <jrib> Xsss4hell_: run 'apt-cache policy libc6'
[13:50] <davidw> Jangari, yeah, since it's 6.7 gigs on disk and the dvd is only 4.7 :-)
[13:51] <Jangari> i don't know what apps run on ubuntu to compress dvd video files, but if you re-author it to remove the menus, other languages and all the sh|t you don't need, you wouldn't have to compress it too much
[13:51] <Jangari> otherwise, is your burner dual layer?
[13:51] <Xsss4hell_> jrib: so the problem is that I don't use the hardy sources?
[13:51] <databridge> j  #ubuntu-de-offtopic
[13:51] <ajitam> hi how can I check upload dowload trafic in terminal
[13:52] <databridge> j  ubuntu-de-offtopic
[13:52] <jrib> Xsss4hell_: no, it wants the gutsy libc6 but I am guessing you have hardy's installed
[13:52] <davidw> Jangari, don't think so
[13:53] <Xsss4hell_> jrib No, I have just updated my kernel with this script http://axebase.net/blog/?p=178. LANGUAGE=en_US apt-cache policy libc6 Resulsts in-> http://pastebin.ca/index.php
[13:53] <Xsss4hell_> I still run Gutsy
[13:53] <jrib> Xsss4hell_: that's a blank pastebin
[13:53] <Xsss4hell_> ups
[13:54] <Xsss4hell_> jrib sorry : http://pastebin.ca/898618
[13:54] <Jangari> davidw: dvd95 - DVD9 to DVD5 converter
[13:55] <Jangari> dvd+rw-tools - DVD+-RW/R tools
[13:55] <jrib> Xsss4hell_: you have 2.7-5ubuntu2 installed, the hardy version.  You got it when you ran that script most likely.  If you read the script, it adds hardy repositories to your sources.list, upgrades some packages, and then removes it from your sources.list
[13:55] <Jangari> videotrans - DVD authoring utilities
[13:55] <gilster> is there anyway to get DVD-RAM support for UDF drag drop interface
[13:56] <davidw> Jangari, dvd95 looks like a good one - thanks
[13:56] <gilster> ?
[13:56] <misieq> i have scsi adapter which is (i believe, since dmesg shows (almost) no error) up and running connected with a nokia d-box1 dvb stb. in system log i can see device being identified as "Communications    DVB2000  Nokia rulez      2.14 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2" so i assume communications is working and device /dev/sg2 is created. however i do not know how can i actually see some input from nokia. any suggestions?
[13:56] <Jangari> check them out in synaptic first
[13:56] <davidw> lunch time
[13:56] <MrPink> I try to run a Java code in the terminal and what I get back is "FNF" any idea what that means?
[13:56]  * zoom is away: Occupé
[13:56] <Xsss4hell_> jrib but: lsb_release -a tells me I'm using gutsy
[13:57] <jrib> Xsss4hell_: yes, and you have a bunch of hardy packages installed
[13:57] <gilster> anyone here use DVD-RAM discs in ubuntu? how do i get proper write support to them as UDF discs?
[13:57] <Xsss4hell_> oh damn..me fool
[13:57] <abdulla> guys how to have a frame around icons in my desktop , frames that is like a box which are colored and gives it a better eye candy for my icons
[13:57] <Xsss4hell_> the only solution is to upgrade to hardy?
[13:58] <incorrect> Xsss4hell_, what is your problem?
[13:58] <jorisslob> lordleemo: Nope, no effect, still having the same problem.
[13:58] <ajitam> how can I check upload dowload trafic in terminal
[13:58] <ajitam> anybody
[13:58] <jrib> Xsss4hell_: if you want a stable system, you should probably reinstall gutsy.  You could try to finish the upgrade to hardy too if you want, but then you will be running a development version
[13:58] <wald0> why ubuntu uses FIREFOX instead of iceweasel ?
[13:58] <Jangari> wtf is iceweasel?
[13:58] <incorrect> ajitam, tcpdump
[13:58] <abdulla> firefox is greater wald0 :)
[13:59] <jorisslob> iceweasel is firefox without the logo... :) Because that is copyrighted
[13:59] <assasukasse> abdulla: who said that :D
[13:59] <Seveas> wald0, because ubuntu isn't as anal as debian about logos
[13:59] <wald0> Jangari: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IceWeasel
[13:59] <assasukasse> LOL
[13:59] <abdulla> assasukasse, its greater then opera aswell :)
[13:59] <Xsss4hell_> incorrect I can't compile gst-pulse becaue I have not build-essential, because I have kernel 2.6.24 and guty plus hardy a bunch of hardy packages, now I don't have a hardy repo in sources.list. So back to the beginning: I can't compile :(
[13:59] <wald0> Seveas: is not an anal problem, is a LEGAL problem
[13:59] <wald0> so, ubuntu is making illegal things ?
[14:00] <abdulla> firefox has addons which support greater expansion for the firefox which induces it for a greater result forexample ( Noscript addons and ADBLOCK plug , etc.... )
[14:00] <Jangari> no, they're careful not to encroach on others' copyrights
[14:00] <ajitam> incorrect: a get tcpdump: no suitable device found
[14:00] <misieq> anyone? how to stream video from scsi adapter?
[14:01] <rohan> what would be the correct package to file this bug against -- https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/190677
[14:01] <abdulla> guys any1 know how to make frames for icons to make it look eye candy i want to have frames around the icons in mydesktop
[14:01] <incorrect> ajitam, you want to see traffic, use tcpdump, dunno what get tcpdump is all about
[14:01] <lordleemo> jorisslob: try totally removing hp m8 followed by a reinstall
[14:01] <Xsss4hell_> jrib, incorrect: My aim was to update to Kernel 2.6.24 (latest stable) and have all gutsy updates, Plus Skype(without microphone bug due to pulseaudio) and Pulseaudio as default. gst-pulse should fix that..
[14:01] <Xsss4hell_> it was a road to hell...
[14:01] <incorrect> Xsss4hell_, well you can get the kernels source yourself
[14:01] <incorrect> make-kpkg blah
[14:02] <Wibble-> Is it possible to re-map keys when a window has focus? I would like Alt-Tab to be sent to my VNC window when the VNC has focus; but to be handled normally when the VNC window does not have focus (focus changed using the mouse ofc)
[14:02] <PriceChild> Xsss4hell_, don't expect us to be able to give you support if you're using custom kernels.
[14:02] <Xsss4hell_> incorrect: but the problem is, I used this script: http://axebase.net/blog/?p=178
[14:02] <assasukasse> Seveas: do u think it is fair what you have done?
[14:02] <Xsss4hell_> PriceChild: It's hardy's own kernel
[14:02] <Seveas> assasukasse, yes, trolls are not welcome here
[14:02] <knifeprty> whats up
[14:02] <PriceChild> Xsss4hell_, hardy isn't released. We don't support it here.
[14:02] <knifeprty> everyone?
[14:03] <PriceChild> !hardy | Xsss4hell_
[14:03] <ubotu> Xsss4hell_: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[14:03] <gilster> !DVD-RAM
[14:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvd-ram - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:03] <knifeprty> i just installed windown vista hah
[14:03] <assasukasse> Seveas: personally i think that is a bit of nazist behaviour..but that's just me. I will inform the ircop about your behaviour and part the channel as long as you are op here.
[14:03] <putozao> why if a listening to amarkok and i what to view something in youtube i can't listening no youtube
[14:03] <jorisslob> lordleemo: How do you deinstall things you installed yourself from source?
[14:03] <Xsss4hell_> PriceChild, incorrect, jrib I'm absoulutely satisfied with your support: You're really a very friendly staff
[14:03] <PriceChild> assasukasse, ircops don't bother themselves with channel issues.
[14:04] <abdulla> this is the example of what i mean http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=69347&file1=69347-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=LinPhone+Icons
[14:04] <jorisslob> lordleemo: Oh... make uninstall seems to work :)
[14:04] <PriceChild> Xsss4hell_, read the bot... I am correct.
[14:04] <incorrect> staff? i am not employed
[14:04] <knifeprty> lol
[14:04] <abdulla> i want to have frames around the icons but i know that this are icons but i want to have a frame which ubuntu can produce but i dont know how
[14:04] <chazco> Does anyone have a script to enable Virtualbox USB support? I can do it manually but want to add it to my recover disc
[14:04] <Xsss4hell_> :D but you've a real ubuntu heart!
[14:04] <PriceChild> chazco, I think a howto on the forums was approved recently to get that done on boot. In the "howtos tricks and tips" forum
[14:05] <Xsss4hell_> thx anyway, altough there is no hope for my system
[14:05] <gilster> so no one here uses DVD-RAM discs eh/?
[14:05]  * knifeprty slaps speedcore around a bit with a large trout
[14:05] <Xsss4hell_> as you told..
[14:05] <david08> hello. how do i activate the gnome splash screen?
[14:05] <speedcore> where is the boot record stored? when doing a standard ubuntu install?
[14:05] <online_> hello
[14:05] <abdulla> zz
[14:05] <knifeprty> quad core rules
[14:05] <online_> can any one tell me why I am not able to create a symbolic link?
[14:05] <PriceChild> speedcore, /var/log i guess
[14:05] <Seveas> knifeprty, this is a support channel, stop with the offtopic chat please
[14:05] <chazco> PriceChild - will have a look, but its probably the manual method (its quite tricky to script it)
[14:06] <abdulla> guys i want to have a frame around my icons any ideas???? this is an example of what i mean but its not what i want http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=69347&file1=69347-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=LinPhone+Icons
[14:06] <speedcore> Pricechild: and that's the record the bios finds at boot?
[14:06] <jrib> Xsss4hell_: reinstalling gutsy is the best thing to do in my opinion.  And don't run magic scripts without reading what they do.  Feel free ask someone here about things like that before you do
[14:06] <PriceChild> speedcore, the bios?
[14:06] <knifeprty> vista rules ball of puñets % and of pure corage ia me voy %
[14:06] <Xsss4hell_> jrib thank you!
[14:07] <speedcore> I mean..  how does the computer know that there is a bootable os on the harddrive choosen in bios?
[14:07] <Xsss4hell_> I'll ask next time, before shredding my systems core ;)
[14:07] <mohbana> hi, i have auzen x-plosion i cant seem to get surround sound please help, the sound card detected is CMI8738-MC8
[14:07] <white_eagle> wow what kind of phone do you need to install Ubuntu Mobile?
[14:07] <mohbana> but there is no front,center,rear etc in the volume mixer
[14:07] <momal> How can I downgrade an update... ? For some reason I have lost all sound and by the looks of it xine/alsa/oss wont see any of my sound (onboard card nvidia ac97). It was only recent like in last 2-3 days
[14:07] <Wibble-> speedcore: the MBR  (master boot record) is stored in a specific place on a phsyical harddisk.  The MBR tells the bios where to look on which real partition to find the proper boot loader such as GRUB.  Ubuntu will, by default, replace the MBR with its own pointing at GRUB
[14:07] <PriceChild> chazco, can't find what I remembered.. but http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2082674 ?
[14:08] <chazco> PriceChild - I had to do quite a lot to enable it on mine (but not that hack...), what i'm looking for is how to automate it
[14:08] <speedcore> ok
[14:09] <chazco> In one of the boot scripts you uncomment some stuff, then you have to edit one of the udev rules to give permissions out better
[14:09] <speedcore> Wibble.. the thing is I need to restore a system..
[14:09] <chazco> But doing those require sed magic (i guess), which is quite tricky
[14:09] <Wibble-> speedcore: Look at grub and restoring the MBR
[14:10] <anto> Heya, can somone here help me get Jackd working
[14:10] <anto> i keep getting somthing about kernel resolution to slow
[14:10] <speedcore> Wibble: is it ok just do an install of ubuntu on the new disk..  and then boot from live cd.. mount that disk.. and the old disk.. erase all on the new disk.. with the information from the old disk.
[14:11] <speedcore> Wibble: I guess. if I just copy everything from the old disk.. to the new disk.. that there will be no correct MBR
[14:11] <Wibble-> speedcore: What exactly is the problem and how would you *ideally* get it solved
[14:11] <Wibble-> the MBR is not in a partition, therefore copying files will not copy it.
[14:11] <cyroul> i m looking for help regarding PnP ACPI error during the boot, can' t find anything off the internet, just bug reports Any idea
[14:12] <cerberus> complete hack, look at the packages that aptitude wants to remove, copy them into a text file, write a shell script that then runs aptitude, let it remove the packages then manually install them
[14:12] <speedcore> My harddrive is broken... I got a backup.. which I can mount..  I also got a new drive... but I figure I just can't copy everything.. because I need to get a MBR on the new disk too
[14:12] <cerberus> has to be an easier way..
[14:12] <thyultimate> i have a microsoft web cam , its not in the supported list....now what??
[14:13] <thyultimate> :(
[14:13] <Wibble-> cerberus: easier way to *do* what?
[14:13] <thyultimate> its got my micro phone too
[14:13] <cerberus> Wibble, aptitude decided that a load of packages where unrequired (marked as auto installed but no longer dependencies for anything) and wanted to remove them, some of them where critical packages
[14:13] <cyroul> thyultimate: have u plugged it yet ?*
[14:13] <Wibble-> speedcore: Ok - yes, you can just install on the new HD then copy all the files over on to that.  the MBR will be set up on the new disk and the grub files from the old disk will be copied over
[14:14] <thyultimate> yes
[14:14] <cerberus> Wibble, basically I had to let it remove them, then write a shell script to manually install them all back again
[14:14] <thyultimate> cyroul: yes
[14:14] <Wibble-> oh ok
[14:14] <Wibble-> cerberus: I guess deleting the current package state didn't solve it?
[14:14] <speedcore> wibble: THe backup is not all the partitions of the drive... just all files that resided in /
[14:14] <cyroul> thyultimate: do a lsusb what have you got
[14:15] <thyultimate> cyroul: errr...enter lsusb in terminal??
[14:15] <cerberus> Wibble, a) couldnt figure out how to do that b) Im not sure Id want to lose all the state, ideally I just want it to unmarkauto the stuff its decided I dont need
[14:15] <cyroul> yep
[14:15] <Seveas> cerberus, you can do that in synaptic
[14:15] <Wibble-> speedcore: that is fine - the files GRUB needs are in /boot.  If you just copy over them on a newly installed system and it should be fine
[14:15] <thyultimate> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[14:15] <thyultimate> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[14:15] <thyultimate> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 045e:00f5 Microsoft Corp.
[14:15] <thyultimate> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[14:15] <LjL> !paste > thyultimate    (thyultimate, see the private message from Ubotu)
[14:15] <cyroul> it is detected
[14:16] <cerberus> the one thing I miss about slackware is the lack of package dependency resolution, I liked that you had to manually handle dependencies heh
[14:16] <speedcore> Wibble: so the mbr just gets there??  I dom't understand?
[14:16] <thyultimate> oh
[14:16] <cyroul> $
[14:16] <thyultimate> so how do i use it?
[14:16] <Wibble-> speedcore: install on the new harddisk - that will set the MBR.  Then copy the files over.
[14:16] <thyultimate> LjL sorry
[14:16] <speedcore> wibble: that
[14:16] <speedcore> 's what I thought!!
[14:16] <cyroul> what do you wanna use it for ? msn skype ???
[14:16] <speedcore> thanx
[14:16] <speedcore> Wibble: Thanx
[14:17] <thyultimate> skype
[14:17] <cyroul> start skype
[14:17] <Wibble-> speedcore: Sorry for confusing you then.
[14:17] <LjL> thyultimate, typing 045e:00f5 into google seems to give that the camera works but with problems, and the microphone doesn't work
[14:17] <thyultimate> done
[14:17] <cyroul> thyultimate: try to run the webcam
[14:18] <Whisper> i get an error message that i have to little space free on /boot/ when im trying to upgrade
[14:18] <Whisper> what to do=
[14:18] <Whisper> ?
[14:18] <speedcore> Wibble: I just needed some feedback.. and you did got it.. so..  now back to restoring..  bloody HD braking..  as when broken in..  10days.. =(
[14:18] <jickles> my home and end keys are not behaving properly in screen, what could this be?
[14:18] <_metaxy_fw> Borderline inappropriate question: Is there a significant channel (on Freenode or elsewhere) for hardware questions (troubleshooting etc.)?
[14:18] <LjL> thyultimate: http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=662117 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeWebCams and according to http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html the driver (module used) is gspcav1
[14:18] <incorrect> is there an ubuntu based nas project?
[14:18] <Pir8> Anyone recommend a good DVD Photo/Video authoring program for linux? (preferrably free/open source one)
[14:18] <Wibble-> Whisper: Remove some un-used kernels from /boot/ ?
[14:19] <thyultimate> select webcam: no devices found
[14:19] <gilster> do any of you fine people remember the old DVD-RAM discs that were popular a few years ago.? I am trying to get UDF support on the go with these discs. some advice would be good.!!
[14:19] <thyultimate> even the microphone isnt working
[14:19] <Whisper> Wibble- how do i know wich one i use?
[14:19] <thyultimate> on skype*
[14:19] <LjL> thyultimate: does "lsmod | grep gpsca" list anything?
[14:19] <Wibble-> Whisper: You are currently using the kernel described by typing "uname -a" in a terminal window
[14:19] <jickles> sorry, xchat just crashed, does anyone know why some of keys might be behaving oddly in screen?
[14:19] <LjL> thyultimate: does "lsmod | grep gspca" list anything? (sorry gspca not gpsca)
[14:20] <thyultimate> LjL ty, ill repert back after trying those steps back
[14:20] <thyultimate> report*
[14:20] <Coyot> Òóò èç ðóññêèõ åñòü êòî ?
[14:20] <Magus_X> ?!²²
[14:21] <LjL> !english | Coyot
[14:21] <Seveas> !ru | Coyot
[14:21] <ubotu> Coyot: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[14:21] <ubotu> Coyot: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[14:21] <Coyot> my niht english (
[14:21] <incorrect> which package contains screen?
[14:22] <Seveas> incorrect, screen
[14:22] <Seveas> !info screen
[14:22] <ubotu> screen (source: screen): a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.3-0.4ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 574 kB, installed size 984 kB
[14:22] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys.. would anyone here have Rainbow 6 Vegas on the 360?... I was wondering if it was normal for your men to move by themselves ingame even when I have previously told them to hold
[14:22] <incorrect> doh
[14:22] <incorrect> there it is :)
[14:22] <LjL> Coyot: /join #ubuntu-ru
[14:22] <Coyot> senky )
[14:23] <Deeppact> Hello i got a question I installed Apache, php, Mysql but i cant write in the /var/www/ map in my file browser Any ideas someone?
[14:24] <erawfish> !tell Deeppact about permissions
[14:24] <erawfish> !permissions
[14:24] <ubotu> An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[14:25] <Deeppact> thanks I will look at it
[14:25] <Korvus> anyone helping with installation in here?
[14:26] <chazco> Does dpkg resolve & install dependencys automatically?
[14:27] <Whisper> is there any way to rezise /boot ?
[14:27] <misieq> how to stream video from scsi adapter?
[14:27] <erawfish> Korvus: only if you ask sensible questions
[14:27] <PriceChild> chano, need apt for that
[14:27] <Seveas> chazco, no, that's apt-get's job
[14:27] <Korvus> heh
[14:27] <erawfish> chazco: no
[14:27] <Korvus> sorry
[14:27] <xstasi> hello
[14:27] <erawfish> misieq: does not compute
[14:27] <chazco> Ah... how do i solve it if I have a .deb thats not in the repos then?
[14:27] <Korvus> i'm trying to install and hanging at Running Local Boot Scripts
[14:27] <Korvus> i'm a novice btw
[14:27] <xstasi> anyone knows if there's a graphic tool to manage volumes?
[14:27] <erawfish> Whisper: it's a partition like any other so yes. gparted
[14:27] <xstasi> like this device has to be mounted here
[14:28] <chazco> I take it apt-get install somedeb.deb wont work?
[14:28] <erawfish> xstasi: you mean LVM?
[14:28] <Whisper> erawfish take space from a used parttion without loosing shit?
[14:28] <Seveas> chazco, correct. Try with gdebi
[14:28] <erawfish> chazco: no
[14:28] <enzo> i have an .avi, and i'd like to cut something at the beginning, how can i do that ? kino wants a .dv file
[14:28] <xstasi> erawfish: no
[14:28] <erawfish> Whisper: yes
[14:28] <chazco> Its going to be from a script, gdebi is GUI isnt it?
[14:28] <erawfish> xstasi: then what "volumes"?
[14:28] <Seveas> Whisper, watch your language.
[14:28] <xstasi> i mean like /dev/sdaX has to be mounted on /media/something
[14:28] <misieq> erawfish: means no video capture for me?
[14:29] <xstasi> fstab
[14:29] <xstasi> without having to edit it manually
[14:29] <cerberus> general question, is there an easy way to get aptitude to do a dependency check on all installed packages?
[14:29] <erawfish> xstasi: no. /dev/sdaX is a partition not a volume
[14:29] <Coyot> If opera instal on Linux àíà wakes work, sori  if chyo has wrong written, all I traveling on foot through translator ")
[14:29] <xstasi> erawfish: ok, s/volumes/partitions/
[14:29] <magnetron> how well does the nvidia 8xxx cards play with ubuntu?
[14:29] <cyroul> very well
[14:29] <xstasi> is there a graphic tool to do such operations?
[14:29] <peppers> hello
[14:29] <erawfish> chazco: aptitude and apt is always in a consistent state for all installed packages. as soon as it isn't you canot intstall anymore with aptitude anymore
[14:29] <erawfish> and aptitude will tell you. loudly
[14:30] <Korvus> nobody?
[14:30] <chazco> ?
[14:30] <kbrooks> um, on 7.04 - I want pidgin, not gaim, but pidgin isn't in feisty-backports
[14:30] <peace> hello.. how to copy a file or folder from ubuntu to windowsxp via virtualbox. :)
[14:30] <erawfish> kbrooks: more input -> more output
[14:30] <kbrooks> so what to do?
[14:30] <peppers> I was on gutsy, trying to get my wacom bamboo to work, I copied the module over, and rebooted, now on boot, it hangs in the loading screen. and secure mode says that /usr/bin/sh was not found :S
[14:30] <kbrooks> erawfish, ?
[14:30] <erawfish> peace: samba
[14:30] <peppers> i'm on my gentoo right now, can you please help me figure it out?
[14:31] <Korvus> i'm trying to install and its hanging at Running Local Boot Scripts
[14:31] <magnetron> kbrooks: a simple dist upgrade will solve that.
[14:31] <cerberus> peace, the shared folders dont work with VirtualBox OSE (Open Source Edition), you need to use a network filesystem which can be read from both the host OS (ubuntu) and the virtualised OS (XP)
[14:31] <cerberus> there is a guide I found on google..one second
[14:31] <xstasi> peace: virtualbox has its own system of folder sharing, browse the options around
[14:31] <kbrooks> magnetron,  ok
[14:31] <peace> okay ill try
[14:31] <xstasi> so, i try asking again...
[14:31] <peppers> anyone?
[14:31] <Korvus> some community
[14:31] <xstasi> is there a graphic tool for managing devices / mount points like fstab?
[14:32] <erawfish> peace: what module exactly?
[14:32] <erawfish> peppers: ^^
[14:32] <peppers> wacom.ko
[14:32] <cerberus> peace, hmm, Im out of date, look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=627847
[14:33] <erawfish> peppers: copying radnom stuff from gentoo is not exactly supported
[14:33] <peppers> I didn't do that
[14:33] <peppers> I configured and compiled it on ubuntu
[14:33] <erawfish> peppers: then why copying from anywhere?
[14:33] <peppers> I copied it to /lib/modules/kernelversion/kernel/drivers/input/tablet and on reboott it hanged
[14:34] <erawfish> peppers: why did you copy it there manually?
[14:34] <xstasi> peppers: you shouldn't mess with LKMs without knowing what you're doing..
[14:34] <erawfish> and where is the source from?
[14:34] <peppers> erawfish:  I compiled it on it's own (just the wacom driver not the whole kernel) and then copied it to the correct directory
[14:34] <peppers> depmod -e didn't give out any error either
[14:34] <erawfish> where is the source from?
[14:34] <peppers> linuxwacom prject
[14:34] <JustV> Hello.. How i can fully delete programm?
[14:34] <peppers> project*
[14:34] <kbrooks> is feisty-backports relatively stable?
[14:35] <erawfish> then ask linuxwacom about their stuff. their manure, their problem
[14:35] <erawfish> JustV: purge
[14:35] <cerberus> peace, I just checked, it does work :)
[14:35] <JustV> sudo apt-get remove phpsysinfo --purge ??
[14:35] <peppers> <.< that's not my problem exactly. it's just, lods of things from my hdd just disapeared. the hole content of my home filder is gone and so is bin/sh.
[14:36] <unicum> is there a way to cycle tabs in firefox via keyboard??
[14:36] <cerberus> >peace, when you chose a shared folder in virtualbox for XP it appears in XP (the guest OS) under the shared folders
[14:36] <peace> im trying to understand 2. point in that link you gaved :)
[14:36] <Cromag> unicum: ctrl tab
[14:36] <JustV> oh.. sudo apt-get purge
[14:36] <peppers> is there anyway, I can retrieve all that?
[14:36] <cerberus> >peace, i.e. in the explorer bar type \\VBOXSVR\<name_of_shared_folder>
[14:36] <unicum> cool, thx
[14:36] <Jack_Sparrow> peppers: Are you running wine?
[14:36] <peppers> no Jack_Sparrow, well wasn't when it happened
[14:37] <JustV> erawfish: i have used purge and.. > user@coolparty:/etc/phpsysinfo$ ls -la
[14:37] <peppers> I have it installed but haven't used it in a few days, and I use only ocasionaly
[14:37] <erawfish> peppers: boot froma  live cd and look on the harddisk (possibly mount it). if it's there fine, if not bad luck
[14:37] <erawfish> !info phpsysinfo
[14:37] <ubotu> phpsysinfo (source: phpsysinfo): PHP based host information. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.2-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 223 kB, installed size 1808 kB
[14:38] <Jack_Sparrow> peppers: No, but you have wine installed and have used it, and you had Z mapped under wine and you did not have a user with only wine access that you used under wine.. would be my guess
[14:38] <peppers> that's what I just did with gentoo erawfish(yes, gentoo and ubuntu are on the same pc). i mounted the ubuntu partition with gentoo and nothing's there :S
[14:38] <yv5civ> #bolivarlug
[14:38] <erawfish> JustV: dpkg -l phpsysinfo
[14:38] <peppers> yes Jack_Sparrow that's correct
[14:38] <ompaul> yv5civ, ?
[14:39] <Jack_Sparrow> peppers: I am not saying that is where the problem is.. but it is a security problem that most people do not understand
[14:39] <JustV> erawfish: rc  phpsysinfo                             2.5.2-0ubuntu2                         PHP based host information
[14:39] <MrPiracy> I lost all my graphic configuration after applying updates on gutsy. I was using driver i810 with no problems. Could anyone help me?
[14:39] <erawfish> JustV: you did not purge. QED
[14:39] <erawfish> MrPiracy: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[14:39] <JustV> erawfish: user@coolparty:/etc/phpsysinfo$ sudo apt-get purge phpsysinfo
[14:39] <JustV> Reading package lists... Done
[14:39] <JustV> ....
[14:40] <erawfish> JustV: you ARE in /etc/phpsysinfo. how can it be deleted when you still use it?
[14:40] <kbrooks> erawfish, it can be deleted
[14:40] <JustV> erawfish: user@coolparty:~$ sudo apt-get purge phpsysinfo
[14:40] <JustV> Reading package lists... Done
[14:40] <ompaul> JustV, please don't paste multiple lines - max two but ehh that won't work cd ~ and then to the sudo apt-get remove --purge phpsysinfo
[14:40] <peppers> stupid question, is there a remote chance that copying /usr/bin/sh from the live cd over to the ubuntu on the hdd will solve the problem?
[14:40] <Jack_Sparrow> MrPiracy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   select vesa mode 1024
[14:40] <JustV> dpkg: rc  phpsysinfo                             2.5.2-0ubuntu2                         PHP based host information
[14:40] <erawfish> kbrooks: but it won't
[14:41] <MrPiracy> erawfish: did that, didn't work. It will make me keep using VESA and if i try to set it back to i810 or even intel driver, everthing goes back to VESA
[14:41] <JustV> ompaul: thks
[14:41] <kbrooks> erawfish, because the dir is not empty, obviously
[14:41] <Jack_Sparrow> peppers: At this point it cant hurt...
[14:41] <JustV> ompaul: doesnt deleted..
[14:41] <peppers> ty Jack_Sparrow
[14:41] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow: so i can't use i810 anymore?
[14:41] <ompaul> JustV, are you running any applications that are using it at the moment
[14:41] <Jack_Sparrow> MrPiracy: sure you can...
[14:42] <JustV> ompaul: no, i just installed it..
[14:42] <JustV> ompaul: and i want fully remove it
[14:42] <Jack_Sparrow> MrPiracy: please poost your xorg to the pastebin for people to review for you
[14:42] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow: how? it won't keep it. Everything goes back to VESA after reboot
[14:42] <Jack_Sparrow> pepperjack: Please see winehq for safety tips
[14:42] <Pir8> Anyone recommend a good DVD Photo/Video authoring program for ubuntu?
[14:42] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow: how do i post it to the past bin?
[14:43] <Jack_Sparrow> MrPiracy: I need to see things like your vh refresh rates and anything else in there.
[14:43] <acidburn> hello there
[14:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste
[14:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[14:43] <JustV> ompaul: installed and removed with --purge.. success. thank you
[14:43] <Jack_Sparrow> ompaul: MOrning buddy
[14:44] <vallhalla81> how can i find out my ip while in the conlole?
[14:44] <ompaul> Jack_Sparrow, good afternoon from the other TZ the one that is beside UTC ;-)
[14:44] <acidburn> got many questions about xubuntu pm me please ty
[14:44] <cyroul> ifconfig
[14:44] <ompaul> acidburn, you want to be in #xubuntu
[14:44] <cyroul> vallhalla: ifconfig
[14:45] <Jack_Sparrow> acidburn: please ask in channel so others may read along and learn
[14:45] <vallhalla81> cyroul: thank you
[14:45] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow: should I put the xorg.0.log too?
[14:45] <Jack_Sparrow> MrPiracy: not yet thanks
[14:46] <ompaul> !pm
[14:46] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[14:46] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55475/
[14:46] <peace> after that comman with shared documents... i get that the shared documents cannot be reached error 1231 :) after using start/run/cmd
[14:48] <Jack_Sparrow> MrPiracy: When you did dpkg did you enter the video ram yourself?
[14:49] <brobostigon> good afternoon
[14:50] <Redhammer_the_Ol> hi daft question: I cannot seem to get rid of old soundcards, where is the config file (must be in home) where these are described, they make my gnome mixer totally convoluted
[14:51] <peace> how to copy file from ubuntu to windowsxp via virtualbox. virtualbox-devices/select folder..... in windowsxp start/run/cmd net use x: \\vbox.... - error 1231.
[14:51] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow: I am dealing with it for 2 days now. This is the xorg.conf I was using before, I got it from a backup.
[14:53] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow: for some reason the log file says it's using xorg.conf.failsafe instead, but even if i replace it with the same contents of xorg.conf it will give me the same VESA drivers
[14:53] <theunixgeek> I followed http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/18/removing-kde-icons-in-gnome-remove-gnome-icons-in-kde/ to remove KDE  apps from the GNOME menus and vice versa; how do I undo it.
[14:53] <Jack_Sparrow> MrPiracy: Since you already have a backup would you mind trying something for me... pull line 33 for me....
[14:54] <cyroul> peace: don't virtualbox, but you can use smb to transfer your files
[14:54] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow:  line 33 of what?
[14:54] <cornel1> I've got a printer problem...   I can't print from evince, there's no printer listed, even though I've a default set up.  More details:  I'm using Feisty, I've connected to a printer on a winXP machine and test printed.  The printer is my one and only, and it's the default (according to system / administration / printing)... But I can't print to it from evince. When I hit file/print print, there's no printers listed.  In firefox there
[14:55] <ras> join #ubuntu-fr
[14:55] <Jack_Sparrow> MrPiracy: remove line 33 of that xorg.conf and retry it...
[14:55] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow: ok, i'll do that and will come back here
[14:55] <Jack_Sparrow> MrPiracy: thanks
[14:56] <peace> problem solved..thanks good luck
[14:56] <peppers> ok,
[14:56] <peppers> I booted the live cd, /bin/sh is there
[14:56] <peppers> I ran e2fsck and it says everything's allright
[14:56] <peppers> any help?
[14:58] <peppers> Jack_Sparrow: still there?
[14:58] <porcho> hi there. I'm having problems changing Deskbar Applet from <Alt>F3 to something else. I've managed to change it using gconf-editor, but now I can't assign <Alt>F3 to nothing else. can somebody help me?
[14:58] <cyroul> peppers: can you boot in safe mode, coz if you can, transfer your files on usb and copy them over
[14:58] <Jack_Sparrow> peppers: Yes, I can help, my first suggestion.. please stop hitting the enter key as often..:)
[14:58] <khelll> i need a software that plays 3gp files
[14:58] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow: did that ... still have the same problem
[14:59] <tapas> i want to encrypt my root fs
[14:59] <tapas> i have a new disk and would like to encrypt all partitions on it..
[14:59] <PriceChild> tapas, the alternate cd will do it for you easily
[14:59] <PriceChild> !alternate | tapas
[14:59] <ubotu> tapas: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode installation CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD.  It can also be used as an upgrade CD. - See also !minimal
[14:59] <brobostigon> khelll: have you tried to play it with vlc??
[14:59] <peppers> ok, sorry. cyroul, I can't. when booting, it says that /bin/sh couldn't be found when running rc-something :S and sugests running e2fsck because somethign is corupted
[14:59] <tapas> i have a system already up and running.. i would like to copy my current root fs to the new partition.
[15:00] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow: funny cos before the login page i see this "low graphics mode" popup and rite after i login into gnome it says the X config is different from GNOME and it asks me which one i want to use
[15:00] <peppers> I booted the live cd, mounted the ubuntu partition and checked. both /bin/sh and /bin/dash are there and work. and I ran e2fsck and it gave no error
[15:00] <PriceChild> tapas, I would suggest copying your home folder and "/msg ubotu clone" instead.
[15:00] <PriceChild> tapas, its a lot less hassle.
[15:00] <Arelis> Does anybody know how i can install Ubuntu on a pendrive and then boot using the livecd and the pendrive, like in this video?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URPLClzWehY
[15:00] <tapas> PriceChild: probably..
[15:01] <PriceChild> tapas, and "should" be the same result...
[15:01] <Wibble-> peppers silly question, but when you booted the live CD, you did check the /bin on your HD not from the CD? ;)
[15:01] <tapas> PriceChild: i would like to understand though how one overcomes the difficulty of having the initrd lie on an encrypted fs
[15:01] <PriceChild> tapas, you're leaving my comfort zone.
[15:01] <peppers> yes Wibble. I did. I mounted /dev/hda2 in /media/disk and checked the contents of that
[15:01] <Jack_Sparrow> MrPiracy: Still runs back to failsafe..  run dpkg.. again.. but select only the intel driver, and use tab and accept all other defaults...  I will be looking up something else on your monitor while you do that.
[15:01] <tapas> i know how to create encrypted partitions with luks and have done so successfullly in the past..
[15:01] <PriceChild> yup
[15:01] <brobostigon> arelis: there are loads of howtos out there about this, look on help.ubuntu.ciom first
[15:02] <tapas> PriceChild: ok.. if i find no other way i might resort to downloading and burning the alternate installer image
[15:02] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow: ok, would u give me the command line again pls?
[15:03] <mrchicago> having problems installing ubuntu cant run local scripts forum says its the radeon HD 2600xt
[15:04] <peppers> so, anyone know what could be happening?
[15:04] <MrPiracy> what's the command line to reconfigure xorg.conf please?
[15:05] <meezfoghi> hi all
[15:05] <meezfoghi> i
[15:05] <brobostigon> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, i think
[15:05] <meezfoghi> i have  problem about conky
[15:05] <MrPiracy> brobostigon: thanx
[15:05] <meezfoghi> can anyone help me
[15:06] <brobostigon> meezfoghi: of course, fire away with the question??
[15:06] <meezfoghi> brobostigun: Conky: can't load font 'arial'
[15:07] <meezfoghi> brobostigun: i already install that font
[15:07] <Jack_Sparrow> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry was reading the manual on your monitor
[15:08] <brobostigon> meezfoghi: i am not sure what you mean, load font arial where??
[15:08] <bolt> How can I set the variable FOO to be "foo'bar!" without the first and last quote? having trouble escaping it
[15:08] <jrib> bolt: FOO=foo\'bar
[15:09] <brobostigon> Foo = foo'bar!
[15:09] <meezfoghi> brobostigun: from conky
[15:09] <bolt> brobostigon: that leaves me with the > prompt
[15:10] <bolt> jrib: and that sets the variable to foo\'bar, including the \ and without the exclamation mark :/
[15:10] <Wibble-> Can you set an env var to include another env var? I want PATH to include $wibble - but I want to change $wibble when I like and have $PATH kept in sync
[15:10] <cyroul>  i m looking for a dolution regarding PnP ACPI error during the boot, can' t find anything off the internet, just bug reports
[15:11] <Wibble-> bolt: FOO=foo\'bar! works for me.
[15:11] <Jack_Sparrow> MrPiracy: The refresh on your monitor is off, only by 1 each way.. but I have seen simpler things cause problems  http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Philips+monitor+190C+manual+pdf&btnG=Search is your manual   55 - 75  not 56 - 76  cant hurt to change that as well
[15:11] <Wibble-> bolt: what shell are you using?
[15:11] <bolt> Wibble-: bash
[15:11] <Wibble-> me too.  And as I said, it WFM.
[15:11] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow: grrrrr.... i had tried it before, it failed on the same place: attempting to detect my monitor
[15:11] <finalbeta> lol, I'm downloading with kftpgrabber and playing music. the music skips because kftpgrabber uses to much cpu. Task scheduling really needs some attention.
[15:11] <meezfoghi> i have  problem about conky
[15:12] <meezfoghi> brobostigun: Conky: can't load font 'arial'
[15:12] <Jack_Sparrow> MrPiracy: Dont let it sdetect the monitor settings
[15:12] <bolt> Wibble-: are you sure you are using the right ' character?
[15:12] <bolt> Wibble-: it's the single quote one
[15:12] <peppers> ok, I copied the old wacom.ko back to place
[15:12] <Wibble-> single quote, not back tick? yes.
[15:12] <peppers> gonna reboot and try it out.
[15:12] <brobostigon> meezfoghi: no idea, sorry.
[15:12] <bolt> Wibble-: which leaves bash waiting for the other part
[15:12] <Jack_Sparrow> MrPiracy: The refresh on your monitor is off, only by 1 each way.. but I have seen simpler things cause problems  http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Philips+monitor+190C+manual+pdf&btnG=Search is your manual   55 - 75  not 56 - 76  cant hurt to change that as well
[15:12] <Wibble-> but it works with backquote too :)
[15:12] <Wibble-> bolt: No - you escape the ' with \.  Then it doesn't wait for any more.
[15:13] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow: so should i just change it in my xorg.conf and reboot?
[15:14] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[15:15] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow: ok, i'll be back
[15:15] <Jack_Sparrow> MrPiracy: And leave out the video ram line as well
[15:15] <dan_l> Hey,  got a quick command line question:  I'm trying to do cp [directory] "/usr/apps/whatever/"
[15:15] <dan_l> and it seems to spit out the destination
[15:15] <dan_l> how is that line supposed to be formed?
[15:16] <Wibble-> dan_l: cp -r /usr/apps/sourcedirectory /usr/apps/whatever/ ?
[15:16] <brobostigon> cp "source" "destinantion"
[15:16] <Jack_Sparrow> dan_l: Not trying to be flip.. but you know you can always do man cp   or man any cli command for help
[15:17] <dan_l> Jack_Sparrow:  Sorry.  I was thinking that the problem is the way I'm referencing the destination
[15:17] <dan_l> sudo cp simple $/usr/share/apps/yakauake/
[15:18] <dan_l> I tried that without the $ too.  I'm just trying to figure out what the problem with the dest is.
[15:18] <incorrect> i am trying to reconnect to my 'screen' however it says can not open /dev/pts/0
[15:18] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow: same thing man, as if gutsy doesn't get its settings from this file
[15:19] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow: nothing that i change in this file seems to change anything after i reboot
[15:19] <Jack_Sparrow> MrPiracy: If it cant use the settings you put in there, it will trash it and use failsafe.
[15:19] <nephtes> Hi all...  How do I modify kernel commandline options so that they don't get overwritten by update-grub on the next kernel install?
[15:19] <bolt> gah. this is ridiculous. I finally got my variable set right, but wpa_passphrase still complains. I have a key with 63 characters in it, and it contains both ' and ! which need to be escaped. When I do so, wpa_passphrase includes the escape characters in its count, telling me the key is too long. it isn't! if I replace the special characters with normal ones, it runs just fine. arg!
[15:20] <bolt> I think this wireless network is linux-secure or something
[15:20] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow: well, that's what the log file says ... it is using xorg.conf.failsafe, but i dont know why
[15:20] <Jack_Sparrow> dan_l: what are you referencing with the word simple
[15:20] <enzo> ls
[15:20] <enzo> oups
[15:20] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow: i have been using it for a while, but if i apply the updates, it starts to happen
[15:21] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow: i have the whole partition backed up, and i rolled back to it like 5 times already
[15:22] <Jack_Sparrow> MrPiracy: What sources do you have in your sources.list
[15:22] <Jack_Sparrow> MrPiracy: Would you mind posting that.
[15:22] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow: no problem, hold on
[15:23] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow: aw, what's the path to it?
[15:23] <carndt> why isn't documentroot specified in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf and why is it ignored when it is set
[15:24] <Jack_Sparrow> MrPiracy: etc/apt  you caught me reading again
[15:24] <amenado> carndt-> could it possibly be in one of the other include'ed config files?
[15:24] <muesli> is there a hardy specific irc channel/
[15:24] <Magus_X> for?
[15:24] <nephtes> Ahh found it
[15:24] <carndt> nope its missing in action everywhere!
[15:25] <Jack_Sparrow> muesli: yes  ubuntu+1
[15:25] <muesli> for 2.6.24 specific kernel questions
[15:25] <muesli> Jack_Sparrow: thnx
[15:25] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[15:26] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55476/
[15:26] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[15:27] <patogen> I can't seem to find how I can use irssi+xmonad, xmonad uses the alt-key for "everything" and I can't seem to get irssi to work nice with this
[15:27] <patogen> any idea? I don't find anything nice on google, I know that I saw something before however
[15:28] <ri47614> patogen: you can use esc instead of alt in irssi
[15:28] <incorrect> i am trying to start a service using screen, however it keeps trying to bind to an existing pts
[15:28] <ri47614> patogen: like esc 2 to switch to window 2
[15:29] <astro76> patogen: yeah ESC *then* window key
[15:29] <astro76> *window number/letter
[15:29] <ompaul> incorrect, http://www.amitu.com/blog/2004/12/screen-howto.html might be what you want
[15:29] <Jack_Sparrow> MrPiracy: remark out the last 4 lines with # ... then refresh the sources and do your updates and see if that changes anything
[15:30] <patogen> ri47614 and astro76: Thank you. I would like to be able to use the window key instead, but esc is good for now :)
[15:30] <incorrect> thank you ompaul
[15:30] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow: ok
[15:30] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow: i'll be back
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow> MrPiracy: I will be here
[15:30] <demreath> is it possible to allow user to change their passwords (via passwd command) without a need of writing the old one?
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[15:30] <amenado> carndt-> dyah look here /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[15:31] <MrPink> hey somehow I changed the key binding for my "Del" button to open up System Monitor... so now it doesn't delete a file, or the following character, but instead opens the System Monitor... any idea how I can change that back via console... cuz I cant find it anywhere else :-/
[15:31] <peppers> hello, just to say I solved the problem
[15:32] <peppers> my 50-xserver-xorg udev file was faulty :S
[15:32] <ompaul> incorrect, enjoy
[15:32] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow: update manager is showing the same updates available (this last time i didnt apply them all). there's firefox left, 15mb download
[15:32] <peppers> back to ubuntu, it's working fine. thanks for the help
[15:32] <amenado> MrPink  control-H for vim is delete chars
[15:33] <zerok> hi :-) anybody here running apache2 with mod_deflate?
[15:33] <Arelis> Hi all. I've been blindly using Ubuntu, not knowing if my hardware supports it or not. Can you guys help me with issues i'm having with hardware and tell me if my computer is fully compatible with Ubuntu? I've made a whole document to ask a proper question. It's in pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/4411/ <-- Don't let it's lenghtyness scare you away, please.
[15:33] <Jack_Sparrow> MrPiracy: So you did updates except firefox and you are still using intel driver?
[15:33] <MrPink> amenado: The problem is that everywhere my delete button opens up System Monitor... and I wont the standard key binding for delete :(
[15:34] <amenado> MrPink-> one of these days i'll get around learning that too, xmodmap and remapping keys..
[15:35] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow: ok, if i restore this partition, everything works great, but it leaves me tons in updates. First I tried to apply them all and it took me to where i am now. Then i restored the partition and tried just parts of it and it brought me here again.
[15:35] <amenado> Arelis if you were already using ubuntu, I take it that it already worked for you?
[15:35] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow: this last time i tried to leave firefox and libboost out of it, but no go
[15:35] <Arelis> amenado, Yes but it breaks down alot.
[15:35] <Arelis> amenado, it doesn't work as good as Windows does
[15:35] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow: i did that now because i have also tried to apply ONLY firefox and libboost before and the same thing happened
[15:35] <amenado> Arelis-> what do you mean it break down a lot? like what breaks down?
[15:36] <Jack_Sparrow> MrPiracy: I am running out of ideas.. but try to figure out which of those updates is causing the problem, then see if it is realtred to something you installed manually
[15:36] <amenado> Arelis-> "good as" is relative, have you gotten any virus on you ubuntu lately?
[15:36] <Arelis> amenado, Well i haven't had it happening for sometime now, because i have just reinstalled Ubuntu. But things like kernel issues, libraries missing, apt-get segfaulting all the time.
[15:36] <Arelis> amenado, virus? not that i know of.
[15:37] <amenado> Arelis right, so "good as" is relative
[15:37] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow: that's the thing .... i tried to ... but it seems to be the update itself. If i apply ONLY firefox and libboost, i come to this. If i apply the rest and leave firefox and libboost out of it, i come to this too.
[15:37] <mindtwitch> Hi everybody
[15:37] <Arelis> amenado, windows in general has been more stable, faster, less likely to break down.
[15:37] <amenado> Arelis-> what exactly have you been doing with kernel and libraries that is missing?
[15:38] <Magus_X> Arelis: but windows is a timebomb
[15:38] <linus__^> i've just installed ubuntu 7.10, but when i type `su -' it ask me a root password! does exist a default root password?
[15:38] <Magus_X> may explode when you don't even expect
[15:38] <Jack_Sparrow> MrPiracy: What all have you installed manually, and hopefully, you did not use envy or automatix to get your intel working
[15:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !root
[15:38] <brobostigon> Arelis: unix is the most stable system i have ever seen, more stable than any i have ever tried.
[15:38] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[15:38] <Magus_X> linus__^: use your user password
[15:38] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow: i dont even know what envy or automatix are
[15:38] <amenado> Arelis-> you already seemed to have made up your mind, mind is set, you have to give the new stuff a chance
[15:38] <mindtwitch> Anybody point me in the right direction. Installing server and when initiates partioner I just get a blank screen. Tried a couple times but no luck. Could it be bad partition or bad drive?
[15:38] <Magus_X> ah yeah, and do not use su, use sudo
[15:39] <Jack_Sparrow> linus__^: USe sudo or gksudo
[15:39] <Arelis> amenado, Well i had that happening two times: at the first time, i was screwing around with windowmanagers and desktop environments. Then suddenly programs wouldn't start anymore, so i went to a console and saw an error message i posted to #ubuntu-bugs. But the second time it was a fresh install of ubuntu with no customizations like that. And it happened again.
[15:39] <amenado> linus__^-> nope,
[15:39] <Magus_X> and you can use sudo -r su
[15:39] <Magus_X> afaik
[15:39] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow: and again, the critical point is the update thing ... from these servers u saw on pastebin
[15:39] <Arelis> brobostigon, Yes, so that's why i'm wondering.. why isn't it here?
[15:39] <Magus_X> to get su
[15:39] <linus__^> so with ubuntu i CAN'T log as superuser?
[15:39] <notsoquick> !sudo | linus__^
[15:39] <mohbana> why do i keep having to reinstall the nvidia drivers each time i upgrade?
[15:39] <ubotu> linus__^: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[15:39] <brobostigon> Arelis: linux is architecturely the same as unix, and unix is here,
[15:40] <Jack_Sparrow> MrPiracy: THe only time we seem to have problems with updates is when a person has installed something manually from outside the repos and it creates a conflict
[15:40] <notsoquick> mohbana cos that is the way of nvidia not talking to the developers of sudo
[15:40] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow: first time, i applied them all. in the end it said all updates were applied successfully, but after reboot i come to the same low graphics mode
[15:40] <notsoquick> mohbana cos that is the way of nvidia not talking to the developers of the kernel
[15:40] <Magus_X> sudo -r su does get su working right?
[15:40] <Magus_X> if you need su, try it
[15:40] <Joelito> Anyone if Anjuta can create JAVA applications? Seems that by default uses C, C++ and gtk+
[15:40] <Jack_Sparrow> MrPiracy: I really dont have any answers at this point.
[15:40] <Arelis> brobostigon, did you read the list of my hardware?
[15:40] <notsoquick> !supportroot| magus_x
[15:40] <ubotu> magus_x: We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[15:40] <erawfish> Joelito: can't
[15:41] <Joelito> erawfish: ok, thanks.
[15:41] <brobostigon> arelis: sorry. no, i must have missed it
[15:41] <erawfish> Joelito: eclipse
[15:41] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow: i installed manually: wine, tried to install java machine (from original site), kiba-dock (which never worked) and awn
[15:41] <Arelis> brobostigon, <Arelis> "I've been blindly using Ubuntu, not knowing if my hardware supports it or not. Can you guys help me with issues i'm having with hardware and tell me if my computer is fully compatible with Ubuntu? I've made a whole document to ask a proper question. It's in pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/4411/ <-- Don't let it's lenghtyness scare you away, please."
[15:41] <amenado> Arelis-> it is enlightening isnt it to mess around with windows manager, do you do the same to windows and get back a full system?  we may be able to assist you in resolving some problem..any specific ones?  one a time off course..
[15:42] <brobostigon> !hcl | arelis
[15:42] <ubotu> arelis: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[15:42] <erawfish> Arelis: what's the problem?
[15:42] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow: ok, but then again ... why doesn't it just let me choose i810 again? If i go to screens and settings and choose i810, i will close it and reopen it and see VESA there. It doesn't save what i choose
[15:43] <erawfish> edit xorg.conf, write i810 there and run startx
[15:43] <erawfish> all whnen X is closed of course
[15:43] <erawfish> then it will error. you paste the Xorg log and we might be englightened
[15:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Arelis: FYI. when you play with window decorations and get totally lost...  try this next time..  http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/how-to-reset-ubuntugnome-settings-to-defaults-without-re-installing/
[15:44] <Arelis> erawfish, Ubuntu has been unstable, (i caused most of the damage). But Ubuntu is more stable than Windows, and i didn't break Windows.. so i'm thinking it is in the hardware
[15:44] <MrPiracy> erawfish: it is there already, but X doesnt seem to get the settings from this file
[15:44] <MrPiracy> erawfish: want me to post the log file?
[15:44] <notsoquick> erawfish perhaps sudo dpkg_reconfigure xserver-xorg would be of use to that user more so
[15:44] <erawfish> Arelis: unstable is a useless error description. try harder
[15:44] <Arelis> Jack_Sparrow, I didn't mean that kind of window manager. I meant switching to bare-bones environments like WMII, DWM and fluxbox
[15:44] <Jack_Sparrow> MrPiracy: I can only suggest one more thing to try.. rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity   then restart x
[15:45] <amenado> Arelis  lets do it this way okay? have your fresh install, and modify only one feature at a time. let us know where it fails, then we can assist
[15:45] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow: what will it do?
[15:45] <erawfish> MrPiracy: reset all gnome settings
[15:45] <erawfish> something that won't help but sounds good
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> MrPiracy: look at the site I linked above for Arelis
[15:46] <MrPiracy> Jack_Sparrow: ok, will be rite back
[15:46] <MrPiracy> erawfish: lol
[15:46] <notsoquick> mrpiracy you could start your machine with a livecd and then mount your hard drive - after that copy the working X profile from the live cd to the hard drive and reboot
[15:47] <amenado> notsoquick-> very good idea and suggestion
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> erawfish: I was thinking that since he manually installed awm and some things that it couldnt hurt to try since he has full partition backup
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> notsoquick: HE has a good xorg.. he only has a problem after applying updates.
[15:47] <MrPiracy> notsoquick: how do i copy the working X profile?
[15:47] <amenado> notsoquick-> if the liveCD iso can be mounted, it can be copied from it directly, i believe it is the filesquashfs.squash file
[15:48] <incorrect> still can't figure out why i can't create a new screen :(
[15:48] <Kibbles> having problems setting up ATI card
[15:48] <MistressMelinda> server irc.bondage.com
[15:49] <amenado> MrPiracy-> hang a few..let me see if i can grab it from livecd iso..
[15:49] <MrPiracy> ok, let me ask a question .... does the X login page use a different config file than gnome?
[15:49] <erawfish> MrPiracy: it can
[15:50] <erawfish> !ati | Kibbles
[15:50] <ubotu> Kibbles: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[15:50] <erawfish> Kibbles: what card is it?
[15:50] <MrPiracy> the whole problem is that after updates and reboot, i get this "low graphics mode" popup before the login
[15:50] <Kibbles> erawfish: x2400
[15:50] <notsoquick> mrpiracy sorry it appears your issue is slightly different, I suggest sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and pick your driver from there
[15:50] <MrPiracy> and whatever i change in that has no effect
[15:50] <erawfish> fglrx it is then. pr vesa
[15:51] <theunixgeek> How do I get the default Ubuntu window theme back after having installed emerald? :(
[15:51] <MrPiracy> ok, will do that again ... last time it froze on monitor detection, i'll bypass it this time
[15:52] <notsoquick> mrpiracy do this sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop this stops X now in the console do the full trick but you should have a valid xorg.conf file which works in your /etc/X11 directory form a previous install
[15:52] <Kibbles> erawfish: thanks, that looks like a good candidate ;)
[15:52] <amenado> notsoquick and MrPiracy shoot, i just mounted filesystem.squash  (the liveCD environment) and found no  etc/X11/xorg.conf  which i believe is created when initrd of livecd  starts
[15:53] <amenado> i thought the filesystem.squashfs have the xorg.conf
[15:53] <notsoquick> amenado you boot from the livecd and that creates a reasonable xorg.conf on the live system which can then be used
[15:54] <notsoquick> gtg
[15:54] <amenado> notsoquick right, at first i thought it had a default xorg.conf laying around, aparently its created live
[15:54] <rudolph> hello I have a problem. I just installed Ubuntu desktop 7.10 on a Dell Inspiron 510m laptop. and when i try to login with my account it says you are not allwed to access system configuration, What to do?
[15:54] <emma>  I am about to do a fresh install of gutsy... Is there anything I should be aware of before I start?
[15:54] <emma> I am currently running Feisty
[15:54] <MrPiracy> i just did the reconfigure thing ... will reboot, brb
[15:54] <pharum> try sudo
[15:54] <rudolph> and i cant even enter X
[15:55] <wokini> hi
[15:55] <rudolph> but with the "ubuntu" account i can login
[15:55] <rudolph> and i cant even su from there
[15:55] <Jack_Sparrow> emma: If possible, create a seperate /home partition
[15:56] <emma>  Ok I have heard that from a few people so I will try to do that.
[15:56] <emma> How big should it be?
[15:56] <Jack_Sparrow> rudolph: sudo of gksudo
[15:56] <emma> Give root 10 G and home partition the rest?
[15:56] <Jack_Sparrow> yep
[15:56] <uuuman> Hi. Anyone know how to install wine 0.9.5.5? I can only install 0.9.5.4. Thanks
[15:56] <emma> will it be fairly clear how much is available when Im going through the install process?
[15:56] <Jack_Sparrow> emma: If you have a lot of space give root an extra 10
[15:57] <emma> Right now I dual boot windows and feisty fawn.  If I put in the install CD will it be able to recognize I'm trying to do a fresh install over the current ubuntu but still let me dual boot?
[15:57] <ACe_maC> where is the trading channel here, anyone
[15:57] <Jack_Sparrow> emma: yes, the manual partitioning is quite clear
[15:57] <emma> 20 G for root?
[15:57] <emma> I have a 200 G hard drive, but I just bought a 500 G external drive.
[15:57] <Jack_Sparrow> emma: do this.. fdisk -l  L is the last letter
[15:58] <uuuman> Hi. Anyone know how to install wine 0.9.5.5? I can only install 0.9.5.4. Thanks
[15:58] <Jack_Sparrow> uuuman: Ask in #winehq
[15:58] <emma> Okay it just gave me some information. I'm not sure which of the information you would like to know though.
[15:58] <erawfish> emma: all of it
[15:58] <erawfish> !paste
[15:58] <ACe_maC> any cashiers here?
[15:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[15:58] <Jack_Sparrow> emma: WOuld you mind posting it to the pastebin
[15:58] <amenado> emma once you get to the partitioning portion, only mark the new paritions for formatting and do not mark the older ubuntu and windows partitions,
[15:59] <emma> No I don't mind.
[15:59] <Radiobuzz> hola
[15:59] <emma> amenado - I don't understand.
[15:59] <MrPiracy> grrrr nothing seems to work
[15:59] <Radiobuzz> hi
[15:59] <MrPiracy> everything brings me back to this
[15:59] <emma> I thought we wanted to mark the older ubuntu partitions.
[15:59] <ahorriblemess> hello everyone, good morning.. or something
[15:59] <uuuman> thanks sparrow will do
[15:59] <Jack_Sparrow> amenado:  If she wants a new ubuntu she would need to remove the old ubuntu partiton
[16:00] <amenado> emma it means when you are manually partitioning, you pick and choose which partition to touch and format, so I suggest leaving those old partitions alone
[16:00] <rudolph> Jack_Sparrow : gksudo and then?
[16:00] <Jack_Sparrow> ahorriblemess: Good Day works...
[16:00] <emma> My aim is to leave windows alone, to continue to dual boot, but to get rid of the old ubuntu and replace it with a fresh ubuntu.
[16:00] <m6784> hallo
[16:00] <rudolph> i still cant su after it
[16:00] <rudolph> need reboot?
[16:00] <magnetron> if i bought a nvidia GeForce 8500GT, how well would it work in ubuntu gutsy?
[16:00] <amenado> Jack_Sparrow-> nope, i have done it where i leave the old ubuntu partitions alone,
[16:00] <ahorriblemess> Can anyone help me with removing a program? I have Wolfenstein, but I would like to remove it, I assume whatever code I learn can be applied to any program right?
[16:01] <Magus_X> WORFENSTEIN
[16:01] <Jack_Sparrow> amenado: I can have several linux installs, but that is not what she asked
[16:01] <Magus_X> YOU CANNOT REMOVE IT
[16:01] <Magus_X> IT IS GODLY
[16:01] <amenado> emma oh, you want to get rid of the old ubuntu, the yeah, reformat the old ubuntu partition
[16:01] <ahorriblemess> i cant get the security fix
[16:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Magus_X: Please lost the caps
[16:01] <ahorriblemess> and i have to return my computer for a new one
[16:01] <emma> Okay. I do want that. I want to replace the old ubuntu with the new ubuntu.
[16:01] <amenado> Jack_Sparrow-> yep i missed what she said about removing the old one..i usually save the old one just incase type of thing..heh
[16:01] <m6784> can anyone help me compiling a kernel with standard ubuntu settings?
[16:02] <Jack_Sparrow> amenado: And in this case we want to add a seperate /home...
[16:02] <ahorriblemess> nice flood, did anyone else get that or am I just lagging?
[16:02] <emma> The pastbin link is not working yet.
[16:02] <Jack_Sparrow> emma: Do you want to upgrade instead, and keep most of your settings and all that
[16:02] <danand_> no - got that too
[16:02] <eagle-101> ahorriblemess, its another server joining in
[16:02] <ahorriblemess> huh
[16:02] <amenado> Jack_Sparrow-> that too, i usually have a separate /home, but if I already have that in the older ubuntu (ie a separate /home) I just re-use it
[16:03] <eagle-101> ahorriblemess, we all got it :P
[16:03] <danand_> ahorriblemess - that happened on #debian too
[16:03] <ahorriblemess> ok well anyway, can anyone tell me how to uninstall programs?
[16:03] <emma> Jack_Sparrow - I really want to do a fresh install. I've already copied my current home folder to the external hard drive, and I'm hoping to copy it back to the new home folder.
[16:03] <ACe_maC> can anyone assign me to a trading channel thanks
[16:03] <incorrect> i've logged in using my admin user, sudo -i' su - anotheruser,   when i try to run screen as anotheruser it tries to use the pts that my admin users is using
[16:03] <emma> I want to do a fresh install, create a home partition, and fix some things I might have broken.
[16:03] <vins> hi do you know how convert png files into one avi video ?
[16:03] <Jack_Sparrow> amenado: and if she had a seperate home rihgt now, she would be golden for installing the newer ubuntu right
[16:03] <amenado> Jack_Sparrow-> yep
[16:03] <shiwaraya> Hello. when I activate my second monitor, desktop get streched bigger than screen. how can i resolve that?
[16:03] <ahorriblemess> can I just delete the folder or do I need to use a code?
[16:04] <emma> The ubuntu paste bin... what is the link? The link above doesn't work.
[16:04] <brobostigon> !pastebin
[16:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[16:04] <Jack_Sparrow> amenado: I need to go.. could you take a look when she gets her fdisk -l posted...
[16:04] <rudolph> whats going on is not UBUNTU 7.10 compatible with DELL Laptops!?
[16:04] <amenado> Jack_Sparrow-> sure, ill cover
[16:04] <Jack_Sparrow>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[16:04] <eth01> rudolph, nothing last time i checked
[16:05] <danand_> ahorriblemess - there are several ways to remove packages on ubuntu - either with gui tools like synaptics or with command line tools like apt-get.
[16:05] <Jack_Sparrow> amenado: thanks  emma   take care...
[16:05] <amenado> rudolph-> i thought you said earlier you were able to install successfully?
[16:05] <rudolph> yea but i cant login
[16:05] <rudolph> says you are not allowed to blabla
[16:05] <emma> Oh thanks very much amenado and Jack_Sparrow
[16:05] <rudolph> i cannot even set root paswd
[16:05] <amenado> rudolph-> you logged in as the regular user?
[16:05] <rudolph> yes
[16:05] <rudolph> cannot su
[16:05] <amenado> rudolh you sure you have the correct password?
[16:06] <rudolph> yea
[16:06] <amenado> maybe caps locks are on?
[16:06] <scorpion77> hallo
[16:06] <rudolph> no no
[16:06] <jrib> rudolph: do you know about sudo?
[16:06] <rudolph> i can login
[16:06] <Jack_Sparrow> rudolph: You have multiple user accounts?
[16:06] <ompaul> !sudo | rudolph
[16:06] <ubotu> rudolph: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[16:06] <rudolph> but after logon screen it says privileges are not enough
[16:06] <emma> amenado - Here is what it says -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55479/
[16:06] <amenado> emma let me take a peek
[16:06] <rudolph> so i cant start gnome or whatever it is
[16:07] <rudolph> let me see what it says exactly one mom
[16:07] <scorpion77> люди я русский
[16:07] <xxx> que hay buen dia
[16:07] <xxx> necesito ayuda
[16:07] <PriceChild> !ru | scorpion77
[16:07] <jrib> !es | xxx
[16:07] <ubotu> scorpion77: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[16:07] <ubotu> xxx: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:07] <Jack_Sparrow> emma: What about your windows drive info
[16:07] <amenado> emma when you did a  fdisk -l  only that drive shows? what happened to your sda sdb sdc sdd sde ?
[16:07] <scorpion77> здесь есть русскоязычные
[16:07] <Jack_Sparrow> emma: your current ubuntu install drive info
[16:07] <emma> I dunno.
[16:07] <emma> when I did fdisk that's what showed up.
[16:08] <amenado> emma  fdisk -l
[16:08] <Jack_Sparrow> sudo fdisk -l
[16:08] <ACe_maC> !sudo
[16:08] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[16:08] <emma> okay
[16:08] <naderman> hey everyone, I got a new pc and tried to install ubuntu, it has a fakeraid (in raid1 mode) and I set that up from the livecd (using dmraid and fdisk) then started the installation until it quite because grub wasn't installable, then installed grub from chroot, then I tried booting up in recovery mode and got some errors about apic, so I added noapic to grub config, and ran update-grub again, however now I only get the grub console when boot
[16:08] <naderman> ing up, anyone got an idea why?
[16:08] <xxx> some one here speak spanish?
[16:08] <Jack_Sparrow> emma: SIlly me.. sorry
[16:08] <jrib> xxx: /join #ubuntu-es
[16:08] <emma> There more has shown up.
[16:08] <xxx> tks
[16:08] <rudolph> the computer clock appears to be wrong
[16:08] <rudolph> it says
[16:08] <rudolph> the session might encounter issues
[16:09] <naderman> also when I try to boot from live cd again and install dmrad, it no longer shows my partitions which it did before
[16:09] <amenado> emma re pastebin it
[16:09] <rudolph> ahh
[16:09] <NineTails> unsure
[16:09] <rudolph> i just had to ignore
[16:09] <naderman> *dmraid
[16:09] <rudolph> that
[16:10] <amenado> naderman-> can you try having a separate /boot partition when installing? it may help in completing an install
[16:10] <emma> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55480/
[16:10] <emma> correction ^
[16:10] <naderman> amenado: I can do that sure
[16:10] <naderman> but why would that help?
[16:11] <amenado> naderman i read somewhere that the loaders before have difficulty booting off of a raid..but proly its corrected now
[16:11] <Ro1> !fsck
[16:11] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[16:11] <emma> Oh I get what that is saying, it's describing the two hard drives I have. First the internal one, and the partitions, and then it mentions the external one.
[16:11] <emma> You see the internal one is 200 GB and the external one is 500 GB
[16:12] <naderman> amenado: actually I cannot do that anymore because dmraid -ay doesn't do anything anymore, so /dev/mapper/isw_something doesn't exist anymore, whithout which I cannot create any partitions
[16:12] <amenado> emma that sda3, is your old ubuntu, yeah go ahead and repartition it, and add /home also
[16:12] <naderman> amenado: well it worked first time, but I somehow messed something up now
[16:13] <naderman> I guess I did some mistake on the second grub-update, but I have no idea what
[16:13] <amenado> naderman-> well it looks like a re-install is in order
[16:13] <amenado> naderman wait..
[16:13] <naderman> amenado: well I'd do, if dmraid would find my hdds?
[16:13] <amenado> naderman you can not boot at all?
[16:13] <Jack_Sparrow> amenado: what about sda3 being her new root and a new partition on the 500 gig for /home of whatever size she wants and the rest of the 500 for windows or ntfs?
[16:13] <naderman> amenado: yes
[16:13] <naderman> all I get right now is the grub console when booting
[16:13] <triton-->  how can i upgrade to alsa 1.16?
[16:13] <emma> how are you able to tell that sda3 is the old ubuntu?  Why does sda2 have an * after it?  And what are those 4,5 about?
[16:13] <amenado> naderman yikes..what kind of prompt are you getting now?
[16:13] <erawfish> naderman: grub cannot boot from raid partitions
[16:14] <naderman> erawfish: huh it worked first time?
[16:14] <erawfish> Enemy: * is the boot flag
[16:14] <Magus_X> can't? :<
[16:14] <naderman> (also this is a fakeraid, not a real one)
[16:14] <emma> should I format everything except the windows partitions?
[16:14] <erawfish> emma: it is irrelevant
[16:14] <naderman> and there's a lot of howtos online which explain how to do it, and it works for those people
[16:14] <xander__> hey how can i configure sound on my laptop
[16:14] <amenado> Jack_Sparrow-> that sounds wonderful, all emma has to create on the internal is the /  and swap partitions, the /home can be anywhere else like the 2nd drive
[16:14] <naderman> so grub can do this, I've seen it boot fine
[16:14] <howdoudo> Is there a way to open the terminal via a keyboard command?
[16:14] <erawfish> naderman: plase show me one
[16:14] <Ro1> I have accidentally deleted some files from /usr when I was trying to delete a stubborn application from Wine. Is there a way to retrieve them back?
[16:14] <naderman> erawfish: one sec
[16:14] <astro76> howdoudo: set one in system > prefs > keyboard shortcuts
[16:15] <erawfish> Ro1: what filesystem?
[16:15] <naderman> erawfish: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[16:15] <Jack_Sparrow> amenado: she doesnt even need to mess with partitions on sda.. just let the installer reformat the existing
[16:15] <Ro1> erawfish: ext3
[16:15] <emma> I think the part I'm worried about is doing something wrong and wiping out windows also.
[16:15] <emma> I need to dual boot for now.
[16:15] <amenado> Jack_Sparrow-> yep, just reformat the existing
[16:15] <naderman> erawfish: as I said all of that worked fine, I just forgot to set noapic, so the kernel boooted and then after a bit froze for that reason, and after changing the grub config and rebooting I only get the grub console now instead of my menu
[16:16] <emma> will the installer be smart enough to just replace the old ubuntu but leave windows alone?
[16:16] <xander__> my laptop is lenovo y410
[16:16] <danand_> Ro1 - no way to recover files from journalled filesystem
[16:16] <amenado> emma-> the partitioneer will tell you the old ubuntu partition exist, and ask you what you want to do with it
[16:16] <Ro1> :(
[16:16] <howdoudo> astro76 that allows me to edit the ones that are already established but not to add a new one.
[16:16] <emma> Okay
[16:17] <emma> Well let's hope this works.
[16:17] <Jack_Sparrow> emma: yes, just select sda3 and mount as /  create new partiton on the 500 of whatever size you want and mount as /home .. oh, and I really am gone.. the wife is giving me that look ... take care all..
[16:17] <emma> I guess the worst case senario is that I wipe out and destroy everything.
[16:17] <Ro1> danand_: Do I have to reinstall Ubuntu again?
[16:17] <naderman> erawfish: and another one here: http://wiki.eyermonkey.com/My_Ubuntu_%287.10%29_Installation
[16:17] <amenado> naderman-> would it work if you add  noapic on grub during boot? ie modify the boot parameters?
[16:17] <astro76> howdoudo: there's an entry for "Run a terminal" which has no shortcut by default
[16:17] <danand_> Ro1 - if you know what packages the accidental delete ruined you can just use apt-get to reinstall them
[16:17] <erawfish> naderman: so what did you set root as in grub?
[16:17] <emma> (well i can't put a home partition on the 500 GB drive since it's an external USB drive and probably too slow)
[16:18] <Ro1> I see.
[16:18] <naderman> erawfish: (hd0,1)
[16:18] <danand_> Ro1 - do you know what packages/files you deleted
[16:18] <naderman> (hd0,0) is my windows, (hd0,2) is swap, no other partitions
[16:18] <erawfish> naderman: hd0,1 is not a raid partition, is it?
[16:18] <amenado> emma you can use your external as /home
[16:18] <naderman> erawfish: no it's not
[16:18] <naderman> it's not a software raid
[16:18] <emma> but my external is a usb drive..
[16:18] <xander__> can anyone help me configuring sound on my laptop
[16:19] <naderman> that's why grub can understand it
[16:19] <emma> wont it be too slow?
[16:19] <emma> to read and write?
[16:19] <erawfish> naderman: what is device (hd0) ?
[16:19] <naderman> /dev/sda
[16:19] <naderman> err actually
[16:19] <erawfish> naderman: that'S the problem if you want to boot from raid
[16:19] <naderman> hd0 is /dev/mapper/isw_cryptic_Volume0
[16:19] <amenado> emma i doubt it, proly only at the beginning..systems files are not written to it
[16:19] <naderman> which however is /dev/sda and /dev/sdb via dmraid
[16:19] <emma> I was thinking of making a home partition on the internal and then using the external to store media and documents.
[16:20] <astro76> emma: that's probably the best idea
[16:20] <vi390> is there a solution to time limit a login (for Limiting Kids Session time Per Day) ?
[16:20] <amenado> emma you can do that too..i myself use external drive for downloads
[16:20] <howdoudo> astro76 I guess I am blind this morning. Thank!!!
[16:20] <naderman> erawfish: what I did was exactly as in the howto: device (hd0) /dev/mapper/<RAID_SET_NAME>    # hd0 represents the first hard drive in my computer, the "raid disk", none partition
[16:20] <astro76> emma: also that way you don't lose your /home if the external is unplugged
[16:20] <emma> true...
[16:20] <Jack_Sparrow> emma: you will end up deleting sda3,4 and 5 , recreating an extended in order to get a seperate home on the internal drive
[16:20] <astro76> howdoudo: you're welcome
[16:21] <naderman> and then root (hd0,1)
[16:21] <amenado> Jack_Sparrow-> the wife, the wife...hehe
[16:21] <emma> Yeah I'm worried for Jack_Sparrow  :|
[16:21] <Jack_Sparrow> amenado: You see the issue.. right.. and yes.. time for breakfast
[16:22] <Jack_Sparrow> emma: all that sounds scarier than it realy is
[16:22] <amenado> we will take care of emma
[16:22] <emma> What is involved in the 'reacreating an extended.. '
[16:22] <Jack_Sparrow> great thanks
[16:22] <gpgp> ok guess this works then
[16:22] <emma> yes thanks Jack_Sparrow  ! Enjoy breakfast!
[16:22] <naderman> erawfish: you following me?
[16:22] <gpgp> hello channel users
[16:22] <RoboCop> i need a server with root access. but i dont have much data transfer and connectivity speed requirments and no restrictions. can any one recomend a good lowest cost dedi.. and with root acces. vps dds ..?
[16:22] <naderman> my problem right now is probably only, that somehow dmraid -r does not list any partitions
[16:23] <emma> Okay I guess I'll try to do it now!
[16:23] <ikonia> RoboCop: this is ubuntu support - not hosting company advice
[16:23] <naderman> even though it correctly detects my hd as raid, and /dev/sda2 contains the right data
[16:23] <amenado> emma once you get to the partitioner, it show what you have and basically delete the old partitions to create the bigger spaces to become new, then edit the new to create those subpartitions
[16:23] <seanw> lo all.
[16:23] <seanw> On gutsy gibbon I am playnig /wmv files in totem
[16:23] <seanw> .wmv*
[16:23] <seanw> BUt all of a sudden the movies won't stretch the full size of the window anymore.
[16:23] <seanw> Why would they not do this?
[16:23] <astro76> RoboCop: try #linux
[16:23] <seanw> THey are small films but I don't mind the distortion
[16:23] <emma> Okay yes. Edit the new to create the subpartitions. And the subpartition I want to make is the /home folder.
[16:24] <RoboCop> asdrubal
[16:24] <naderman> erawfish: it does list /dev/sda and /dev/sdb now, but it doesn't create the /dev/mapper files :/
[16:24] <gpgp> perhaps you hava a locked aspect ratio seanw
[16:24] <amenado> emma 3 new, /   /home and swap
[16:24] <emma> I have to make those three...
[16:24] <papuccino1> Question: I've taken a look at these stencils for Kivio, but they're pay-for. What gives? I thought it was all free for Linux?! Can someone point me to some 100% free alternatives?  Here is the link: http://www.thekompany.com/products/kivio/stencils.php3
[16:24] <emma> do I give them names?
[16:24] <amenado> emma if you decide to put /home in the internal, otherwise only two
[16:24] <emma> Or is it just sda1, sda2, and sda3 ?
[16:25] <emma> And I should give 10+ GB to root,   how much to swap? And everything else to home..
[16:25] <xexeu> Firefox do not access some links. Can someone help me?
[16:25] <Xsss4hell> Why does Syncropated not find my MP3 Player? I have a Meizu M6 miniPlayer
[16:25] <papuccino1> xexeu what links?
[16:25] <amenado> emma partitioner ask you which partitions you create and mount point to associate (/ and swap), and then reformat,
[16:25] <papuccino1> Where can I find free stencils for Kivio?!
[16:25] <Xsss4hell> it says: no masstorage device found..
[16:25] <seanw> gpgp, I am on auto aspect ratio :(
[16:25] <vi390> how can I time Limit a Login Session ?
[16:25] <Xsss4hell> but I Ubuntu recognizes it
[16:26] <gpgp> so are they only the true res of the file then ?
[16:26] <amenado> emma swap is usually 2x the ram, /  partition is 10 gigs is more than enuff
[16:26] <emma> Okay let's hope that the partitioner gives good instructions..
[16:26] <emma> Okay, I guess my ram is 1 GB so 2 GB for swap.
[16:26] <emma> Okay I'm going to try it and see what happens. :)
[16:26] <emma> see you all hopefully....
[16:27] <amenado> papuccino1-> not all are free in linux
[16:27] <xexeu> papuccinol, http://www.t37.com.br/ATHWS.DLL on t37 online must show a ship image, but dont show
[16:27] <seanw> gpgp, yeah, it is just showing me what the file actually is. Earlier on today it was stretching - I don't know what I changed :)
[16:27] <lz7> amenado: i have 2 gb of ram and ubuntu installer shoose 1.2 gb for swap partition. who know better, you or ubuntu installer?
[16:27] <papuccino1> amenado: so there's no free stencils? I find that hard to believe.
[16:27] <cirubuntu> hallo everybody!...I lost my wireless after last update...is there a way to  reinstall it from my LIVE CD??
[16:27] <amenado> lz7-> trust your instincts :)
[16:28] <ikonia> cirubuntu: no. What wirless card do you have
[16:28] <gpgp> this is in totem ?
[16:28] <amenado> papuccino1-> i honestly dont know what a stencil is, a drawing?
[16:28] <cirubuntu> PRO&Wireless 3945 ABG...
[16:28] <ikonia> cirubuntu: intel ?
[16:28] <cirubuntu> yep
[16:28] <papuccino1> amenado: Stencils are like pieces of diagrams for a flow chart. Kivio is a flow-chart designer. Have a look at this website and you'll see: http://www.thekompany.com/products/kivio/stencils.php3
[16:29] <astro76> lz7: the installer, the 2x rule is nonsense
[16:29] <ikonia> cirubuntu: define not working. is the card still seen, or is it just not connecting
[16:29] <naderman> erawfish: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dmraid/+bug/180688/comments/2 oh dear that sounds like my problem :(
[16:29] <naderman> it only works once
[16:29] <papuccino1> lz7; I agree, use the installer recomendation.
[16:29] <asdrubal> RoboCop,
[16:29] <cirubuntu> after installing ...Ubuntu automatically install my wireless card...but I lost it now..
[16:30] <ikonia> cirubuntu: define lost, is the card not visable any more, or will it just not connect
[16:30] <Xsss4hell> Why doesn't Syncropated find my MP3 Player? I have a Meizu M6 miniPlayer MTP Mode is on currently. ????
[16:30] <amenado> those rule of thumb using 2x the ram is old stuff, when people use to know how to read dumps, which now many do not..hehe
[16:30] <cirubuntu> When I open the connections it ca just see the cabled connection...no wireless
[16:31] <seanw> gpgp, yup.
[16:31] <ikonia> cirubuntu: ok - so the card is not visable. first thing to do is check the kill switch on the laptop
[16:31] <ikonia> cirubuntu: also look at the output of dmesg
[16:31] <xexeu> Firexof do not show image of a ship. Can someone help me?
[16:31] <DoYouKnow> what's the best way to install supercollider in gutsy?
[16:31] <ikonia> xexeu: image of a ship ?
[16:32] <ikonia> DoYouKnow: cupser collider ?
[16:32] <cirubuntu> ikonia..kill switch??
[16:32] <amenado> papuccino1-> they are selling theirs not free, I guess you just have to look around for similar and compatible with your drawing package
[16:32] <DoYouKnow> ikonia, audio processing
[16:32] <ikonia> cirubuntu: hardware switch that enables/disables our wirless card
[16:32] <amenado> people forget about the  o f f / o n switches..hehe
[16:32] <ikonia> DoYouKnow: what do you mean by install it ?
[16:32] <likwidtek> What's up, I was VNC'd into ubuntu and VNC crashed my gnome session.  I have ssh access to the machine, so how do I log the machine back into a gnome session from SSH?
[16:33] <ikonia> amenado: the last 3 people that asked about it with me had turned it off
[16:33] <astro76> likwidtek: try: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[16:33] <DoYouKnow> ikonia, well, I want to install the i386 package on my amd64
[16:33] <astro76> likwidtek: oh sorry that won't log you in
[16:33] <amenado> ikonia-> i would not doubt it...the buggers are well hidden
[16:33] <DoYouKnow> using the 32-bit libraries, etc
[16:33] <ikonia> DoYouKnow: thats a significat task
[16:33] <DoYouKnow> but I don't even see it in the 64-bit repos
[16:33] <cirubuntu> ikonia...I allready cheched it...infact now I am logged using live cd
[16:33] <ikonia> DoYouKnow: you'll need pretty much a full 32bit environment on your 64 bit system
[16:34] <ikonia> cirubuntu: do an "lsmod" on the live cd, and then on your install and compare the two
[16:34] <amenado> likwidtek-> you are ssh'd in? did you use -C -Y or -X option when ssh'ing in?
[16:34] <naderman> hmm can I somehow make the livecd operate in ram and from disk entirely?
[16:34] <erawfish>  /lastlog naderman
[16:34] <ikonia> naderman: thats what it is doing
[16:34] <ikonia> naderman: the live operates in ram
[16:34] <Xsss4hell> Is the MTP-MSC Mode not working in Linux??
[16:34] <naderman> ikonia: not exactly
[16:34] <amenado> likwidtek-> then if you did,  once you are logged in,   gnome-session &
[16:34] <naderman> ikonia: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dmraid/+bug/180688/comments/2
[16:35] <ikonia> naderman: what about that ?
[16:35] <Xsss4hell> because I can't use my mp3 player in rhytmbox and syncropated
[16:35] <cirubuntu> and than?...come back to you?
[16:35] <likwidtek> amenado no, what are -C  _Y -X for?
[16:35] <naderman> well the livecd does take free space on the hdd to use it as swap
[16:35] <ikonia> cirubuntu sounds good
[16:35] <ikonia> naderman: yes, it will need swap as it's running in ram
[16:35] <[M]orpheus> how do I burn Blind write files? that *.b00, *.b6i
[16:35] <cc> anyone benchmarked the new hardy boot time?
[16:36] <naderman> ikonia: yeah and now read that comment
[16:36] <cirubuntu> ok.. cu in a while?
[16:36] <amenado> likwidtek-> if you man ssh  those options should be explained, i dont remember exact verbage...X for Xwindows
[16:36] <ikonia> cc whats the point it will be hardware specific
[16:36] <RoboCop> asdrubal yes?
[16:36] <erawfish> naderman: dmraid stores info about mappers somewhere. while I dunno where it is stored on some disk sector
[16:36] <erawfish> erase it and you can start fresh
[16:36] <ikonia> naderman: dmraid is a bad technology on linux
[16:36] <cc> ikonia: sure, but it should be comparable to gutsy - or am I totally wrong here
[16:36] <erawfish> ikonia: dmraid is a bad tech, period
[16:37] <ikonia> naderman: software raid worrks
[16:37] <naderman> erawfish: hmm ok, so I need to find it?
[16:37] <naderman> ikonia: well I want this fakeraid
[16:37] <ikonia> cc: wrong
[16:37] <naderman> and it works too, I just have to get it right first time
[16:37] <likwidtek> amenado oh I see what you mean like SSH tunneling
[16:37] <ikonia> naderman: rhen don't expect ubuntu to support it
[16:37] <amenado> likwidtek-> yes sir..
[16:37] <naderman> ikonia: huh? ubuntu supports it?
[16:37] <ikonia> naderman: no
[16:37] <cirubuntu> IKONIA ...how can I send that looong file to you_
[16:37] <naderman> oh it's in universe yes
[16:37] <[M]orpheus> how do I burn Blind write files? that *.b00, *.b6i
[16:37] <likwidtek> amenado I just want to start the gnome session local to that machine so I can vnc into it like normal I don't wanna forward X11 to this computer.
[16:37] <cc> ikonia: well, ok
[16:37] <ikonia> cirubuntu: pstebin
[16:38] <naderman> ikonia: still software raid has problems too
[16:38] <ikonia> naderman: no its dost
[16:38] <ikonia> doesnt
[16:38] <cirubuntu> ikonia ...how to use it?
[16:38] <ikonia> !paste | cirubuntu
[16:38] <ubotu> cirubuntu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[16:38] <xexeu> ikonia, at www.t37.com.br t37 online vessels schedule do not show the camara image
[16:38] <naderman> ikonia: dual boot?
[16:38] <likwidtek> I just wanna ssh in have the local session kick off like normal.  I think to whatever it's called localhost:1 or whatever
[16:38] <ikonia> xexeu: activeX plugin ?
[16:38] <ikonia> naderman: yup
[16:38] <naderman> ikonia: well software raid doesn't quite cover that
[16:39] <speedcore> hi is there anyway to see what version of the live cd one has booted.. I got 2 livecds .. one is amd64 the other is the standard
[16:39] <andrisp> hello, i have a problem with Rhythmbox. All my music resides in /media/sda2/Music, but I have a link to it /home/andrisp/Music. In rhythmbox i selected it to scan only the later dir, but now it seems that it scaned both paths and i have all songs twice. What to do ?
[16:39] <ikonia> naderman: cover what ?
[16:39] <amenado> likwidtek-> i dont know how that is done lest you are in front of it,  the pam login modules detects if you are logging in remotely or locally, and starts the display manager accordingly
[16:39] <xexeu> ikonia, how to install this plugin?
[16:39] <asdrubal> Tra la la lala
[16:39] <ikonia> xexeu: active X doesn't work
[16:39] <asdrubal> #1 solution to rhythmbox = don't use it
[16:39] <ikonia> asdrubal: please don't make random noise
[16:39] <xexeu> I thiin so
[16:39] <naderman> ikonia: well i have two disks, and want them to be mirrored, and run windows and linux on them
[16:39] <andrisp> asdrubal, stupid solution
[16:40] <user01> does anyone know how to add other languages to spellcheck in openoffice?
[16:40] <laylf> hello
[16:40] <ikonia> naderman: so use windows OS raid and linux softrware raid
[16:40] <naderman> windows OS raid?
[16:40] <Under_C> good afternoon from Santiago, Chile...
[16:40] <ikonia> naderman: windows has raid functionality in it
[16:40] <Under_C> is there any help channel in spanish?
[16:40] <amenado> !es | Under_C
[16:40] <ikonia> Under_C: ubuntu-es
[16:40] <ubotu> Under_C: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:41] <naderman> ikonia: which is supported by linux ntfs drivers? that's news to me.
[16:41] <Under_C> thanks a lot!
[16:41] <laylf> i installed ubuntu and then vista. i lost the bootloader, so i ran sudo grub via a ubuntu live cd. i used: root (hd0,0) and setup (hd0). now i lost vista. how do i add them to the bootloader menu? (vista?).
[16:41] <ikonia> naderman: no, that won't be supported as it's dependant on the windows OS being running
[16:41] <xexeu> ikonia, I dont know what happen. Just clicking on the link and it must show an image from a camara. But It doestnt happen
[16:41] <likwidtek> thanks for your help
[16:41] <naderman> ikonia: exactly, so instead I just want to use two mirrored disks, which both OSes can work with
[16:41] <naderman> and that is possible with dmraid
[16:42] <ikonia> naderman: your using technology which has technical issues, so your pretty much on your own.
[16:42] <Under_C> mmm... first time here, what is the command to add another channel?
[16:42] <wolfman2323> hi.. how could i install beryl?  is that the one that makes the cube effectS? thanks...
[16:42] <picard_pwns_kirk> wolfman2323: are you on Feisty?
[16:42] <naderman> ikonia: what technical issue?
[16:42] <ikonia> wolfman2323: beryl is dead, compiz-fusion is the replacment its already part of gutsy
[16:42] <wolfman2323> picard.  gutsy
[16:42] <amenado> laylf-> do you know which partition your vista is on? add an entry into your menu.lst for it
[16:42] <naderman> the software seems to work pretty much fine to me?
[16:42] <ikonia> naderman: fake raid is a weak technology
[16:42] <picard_pwns_kirk> wolfman2323: you have compiz fusion then
[16:43] <wolfman2323> ikonia.. how could i make the cube..
[16:43] <naderman> many things are weak ...
[16:43] <ikonia> naderman: well, your a minority
[16:43] <wolfman2323> picard... how to make the cube..
[16:43] <ikonia> wolfman2323: join #compiz-fusion
[16:43] <wolfman2323> brb...
[16:43] <naderman> and I'm not asking anyone else to use this, I'm just trying to figure out how to boot
[16:43] <wolfman2323> thanks
[16:43] <picard_pwns_kirk> wolfman2323: right click on the desktop, choose "change background" and click the effects tab
[16:43] <yotux> Is the world not ready for 64bit oses yet seems there are allot of fall back going 64bit
[16:43] <ikonia> naderman: there are no initfs modules for it
[16:44] <amenado> yotux am not, never had a 64bit cpu yet.. :)
[16:44] <ikonia> naderman: plus grub trys to install the virtual disk by default rather than the physical boot sector of either disk
[16:44] <fiXXXerMet> I am running a game in full screen mode in my second workspace.  How can I change to the first workspace without exiting the game?  I can do this with fluxbox with a hotkey.
[16:44] <yotux> I installed 64bit ubuntu and it seems that most of the stuff I use is in 32bit
[16:44] <naderman> ikonia: not sure I understand what you're telling me?
[16:45] <amenado> yotux same in windows, not many 64bit stuff out there yet..32 bits is fully usable still
[16:45] <keoni> has anyone else experienced their sound just stop working with 7.10
[16:45] <wil> I need to edit some fla templates... I looked in add remove but saw no flash editing programs, does anyone know of any?
[16:45] <Arelis> Hi all. just now, something happened that made me unable to login, unable to start a shell, unable to open a terminal window (it opens, but it hangs and gives me an empty prompt..). I know one thing: i executed this command: wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - <-- Canceled it, and then.. boom. System unresponsive. <-- if THAT is a dangerous action.. So really, is there something wrong with my har
[16:45] <ikonia> naderman: 1.) I'm not aware (doesn't mean doesn't exist) of any initfs modules to make fake raid volumes visable to grub (for menu.lst for example) 2.) grub will try to intall the boot loader onto the virtual disk of a+b rather than the physical disk of a or b
[16:45] <Arelis> dware? or is Ubuntu SUPPOSED to behave this way? (Everything you do, boom, crash.)
[16:46] <kasra> fiXXXerMet: try ctrl+alt+directions
[16:46] <ikonia> Arelis: sounds like hardware issues
[16:46] <yotux> Arelis:  the only place that I have ever seen crashes where in alpha release
[16:46] <fiXXXerMet> kasra: That doesn't work (it does now, but not when the game is running)
[16:46] <naderman> ikonia: I already booted from a fakeraid volume a few minutes ago
[16:47] <naderman> so it works
[16:47] <Arelis> yotux, ikonia: Really? so it wasn't my fault?
[16:47] <ikonia> naderman: ooh really, thats interesting how did you get grub to use the fake raid partition for /boot/menu.lst
[16:47] <asdrubal> ikonia, it's true. Better to use any other app..Amarok is a bloated beast too. I reccomend against it as well
[16:47] <ikonia> Arelis: most probably as thats a generic crash
[16:47] <asdrubal> When is 8.04 ubuntu scheduled for release?
[16:47] <yotux> Arelis: are you running an alpha release?  8.10 i think
[16:47] <ikonia> asdrubal: what ?
[16:47] <naderman> ikonia: see the fakeraid howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[16:47] <ikonia> asdrubal: 04 08
[16:47] <vallhalla81> fiXXXerMet what game are you running
[16:47] <ikonia> asdrubal: it's in the name
[16:47] <ikonia> naderman: I've read through that before
[16:48] <Arelis> yotux, ikonia: Because in that case: http://paste.ubuntu.com/4411/ <-- A whole document containing ALL the info you need on my PC.
[16:48] <naderman> ikonia: well it has the edits in there?
[16:48] <amenado> naderman did adding  noapic on grub during fix or not at all?
[16:48] <ikonia> naderman: I'll re-read
[16:48] <Arelis> yotux, ikonia: Please, help me via the e-mail address because you guys may leave IRC.
[16:48] <ikonia> amenado: why noapic for fake read
[16:48] <ikonia> Arelis: help you do what ?
[16:48] <naderman> ikonia: unrelated
[16:48] <ikonia> Arelis: I'm not mailing you
[16:48] <zolberg> hi all
[16:48] <naderman> I just need that too
[16:48] <asdrubal> ikonia, , oh doh
[16:48] <ikonia> naderman: thank you
[16:49] <amenado> ikonia->  he was saying that was a missing piece, and i suggested if adding it during boot fixed it
[16:49] <yotux> Arelis:  Compiz is still alpha I think
[16:49] <Arelis> ikonia, Help me find out the cause of those crashes. Many times people've been telling me it was my fault. And many times it was. But sometimes i experience crashes like these.
[16:49] <Arelis> yotux, not running compiz.
[16:49] <ikonia> amenado: so you just picked a random kernel parameter
[16:49] <naderman> amenado: well when I tried to add noapic I used /dev/sda because dmraid didn't add the mappings
[16:49] <naderman> turns out that was a stupid idea, as now it doesn't work at all anymore
[16:49] <[M]orpheus> how do I burn Blind write files? that *.b00, *.b6i
[16:49] <amenado> ikonia->  that was his telling me, noapic  he forgot to add
[16:49] <naderman> and I'm not really familiar with grub
[16:50] <naderman> so I haven't figured out yet how to boot with noapic from that console
[16:50] <zolberg> can anyone help me with iconv?)
[16:50] <yotux> Arelis:  I do not have any visual effects running on my pc and things seem to work better for me.
[16:50] <amenado> naderman-> my question is more of taking notes..curiousity..
[16:50] <naderman> ikonia: btw. you find the relevant bit for grub under "Set Up the Bootloader for RAID"
[16:50] <kasra> [M]orpheus: google burn b.00
[16:51] <yotux> Arelis: That could solve some the gnome and compiz issue you stated in your paste bin
[16:51] <naderman> if you haven't found it
[16:51] <Arelis> yotux, Compiz is disabled.
[16:51] <Xsss4hell> It seems as if I need to edit the UDEV-style hotplug map for libmtp in /etc/udev/libmtp.rules
[16:51] <ikonia> naderman: just read-reading ht elot
[16:51] <roddersg> anyone here running 6.06-2 server with samba 3.0.2.5 ?
[16:51] <Arelis> yotux, and it has long been
[16:51] <shiwaraya> Hello. When i activate double monitor, my desktop get streched to an area bigger thean the screen. How can i solve this please?
[16:51] <Xsss4hell> This would help everybody owning a Meizu Player!
[16:51] <astro76> Arelis: using Gutsy?
[16:51] <Arelis> astro76, yes.
[16:52] <astro76> Arelis: proprietary 3d drivers?
[16:52] <amenado> shiwaraya-> out of curiosity too, how do you even activate dual monitor? which app you have to enable or run?
[16:52] <wousser> is ubuntu.com down?
[16:53] <Arelis> astro76, yes. fglrx
[16:53] <shiwaraya> amenado: out of the box, ubuntu 7.10 can manage two monitors in SYSTEM/ADMINISTRATION/Screen and graphics
[16:54] <stefano_> highly depends on your graphics card whether it'll work or not though
[16:54] <naderman> amenado: ok, noapic from console fixed that problem at least, but now it can't find the root filesystem anymore as I messed that up by using /dev/sda for the grub update
[16:54] <astro76> Arelis: I would run without that for awhile and see if you still crash
[16:54] <stefano_> if i run the latest update (flashplugin-nonfree) my flashplayer doesnt work anymore and i have to do a manual install
[16:54] <Arelis> astro76, without fglrx?
[16:54] <shiwaraya> The problem activating the second screen is that my desktop gets bigger than the screen so i have to scroll. Anyone can solve this issue?
[16:54] <astro76> Arelis: yes
[16:55] <shiwaraya> How can i fit my desktop size to my screen size?
[16:55] <Arelis> astro76, i doubt it, as when i DIDN'T have fglrx, i had even MORE random crashes.
[16:55] <speedcore> I got 2 diffrent Live CDs one is AMD 64 and the other in the standard... The thing is I have no text on them so I can't tell which one is which one? is there anyway to check..  I'm on Livecd right now
[16:57] <amenado> naderman its good to know that info...
[16:57] <picard_pwns_kirk> speedcore: guess
[16:57] <amenado> shiwaraya  your video card has to have dual output too I assume?
[16:57] <paul__> jul456
[16:57] <esc> hey, anyone have experiance with the fglrx radeon xgl and compiz combo
[16:57] <naderman> amenado: the noapic wasn't related to the fakeraid though, I just needed that for my core 2 quad
[16:58] <amenado> naderman ahh, those info you provide is good for my notes..i dont know what noapic is used for really
[16:58] <esc> !fglrx
[16:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[16:58] <Flare183> How can i calculate the number of sectors, heads, and cylinders when I only have the size of the harddrive
[16:58] <shiwaraya> amenado: yes i have a nvidia gforce4 with dual output, one digital and one analog
[16:59] <Peeco> Would installing ubuntu next to windows result in the error "Windows XP cannot find any hard disks" when trying to do a fresh XP install? Thanks
[16:59] <bullgard4> [Nautilus] English help wanted. Right-click on a filename opens a shortcut menu. What is the exact English name of the sixth item in it? Is it 'Make a Link' or how?
[16:59] <shiwaraya> And dual monitor is working but with that bigger desktop that i have to scroll
[16:59] <Xsss4hell> no help
[16:59] <Xsss4hell> :(
[16:59] <speedcore> is this the 64bit kernel?  Linux ubuntu 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[16:59] <RB2> I'm having a memory lapse. What's the command to view the current open network connections?
[16:59] <amenado> shiwaraya thats good info to know, i had a ati 9250, but my mobo dont support agp 8x so, am just taking notes on what people do
[17:00] <erawfish> Peeco: no. what is your harddisk controller?
[17:00] <astro76> speedcore: no, 32bit
[17:00] <amenado> RB2  lsof -i
[17:00] <erawfish> RB2: netstat -anp
[17:00] <speedcore> astro: what told you that?
[17:00] <astro76> speedcore: i686
[17:00] <RB2> thanks!
[17:00] <speedcore> astro76: ok and the 64bit is?
[17:00] <astro76> speedcore: can't remember either x86_64 or amd64
[17:00] <posr>  hi i got problem :( this happens today when i install slackware 12 when i install nvidia drivers he can't see my video card then i set up windows xp and when i install drivers i don't see desktop but without drivers i see help
[17:01] <shiwaraya> amenado: actually my cheap gforce works owesome. Runs 3d and compiz and i can play flight simulator with a pentium 2.4
[17:01] <erawfish> posr: this is #ubuntu. you are in the wrong channel
[17:01] <Peeco> erawfish: erm, where can i locate this?
[17:01] <silverblade> I've got a wide-screen and everything looks squished in X. How can I sort this out?
[17:01] <silverblade> (squished as in, vertically - everything looks fat/wide)
[17:01] <erawfish> Peeco: in ubuntu: lspci
[17:02] <amenado> shiwaraya-> you have my envy :(  my mobo does not even allow me to boot once i plugged this video card in..so i must remove it
[17:02] <erawfish> Peeco: but we don't support windows here
[17:02] <posr> erawfish i don't know where to ask?
[17:02] <freak_lick> hi
[17:02] <erawfish> posr: NOT here
[17:02] <Lettuc3> does linux have the need for defragmenting, if so, is there a utility for it?
[17:02] <astro76> posr: #slackware or ##windows would be a good start
[17:02] <erawfish> Lettuc3: it doesn't
[17:02] <silverblade> Lettuc3: dont think so and dont think so
[17:02] <Peeco> erawfish: indeed
[17:02] <freak_lick> can some1 help me with enabling my SD card reader on my toshiba Tecra A8??
[17:02] <erawfish> silverblade: 2nd answer is wrong btw
[17:03] <Lettuc3> erawfish silverblade i've noticed fsck mention fragmented files, doesn't this impact on performance?
[17:03] <posr> astro76 thanks
[17:03] <silverblade> erawfish: damn.
[17:03] <erawfish> Lettuc3: no
[17:03] <freak_lick> It worked in PCLOS out of box
[17:03] <ffm> !backports
[17:03] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[17:03] <silverblade> Lettuc3: not as much as it used to with FAT.
[17:03] <yaser> #compiz-fusion
[17:03] <Lettuc3> erawfish silverblade er ok. thanks :)
[17:03] <[M]orpheus> how do I burn Blind write files? that *.b00, *.b6i (already tryed google)
[17:03] <x-punk> how do I convert video files to h264?
[17:04] <freak_lick> can some1 help me with enabling my SD card reader on my toshiba Tecra A8?? It worked with PCLinuxOS 2007 out of box.. so I bet it can work with ubuntu.. I have Gutsy..
[17:04] <palichis> hi
[17:04] <bastid_raZor> x-punk; mencoder .. possibly
[17:05] <amenado> [M]orpheus-> umm you can have an entire directory converted to an iso and then burn the iso image after?
[17:05] <x-punk> bastid_raZor: ok
[17:05] <jw144000> My hard drive has crashed and I want to restore some files and back them up before I do a full re-installation of both Windows XP and Ubuntu, can anyone help?
[17:05] <erawfish> jw144000: boot from a livecd and access your hdd
[17:05] <[M]orpheus> amenado, how is that? U mean extract the file?
[17:05] <freak_lick> jw enter live linux cd and back up files
[17:05] <amenado> [M]orpheus-> so you put all your .b00 .b6i in one directory and make that whole dir an iso
[17:05] <posr> Where lives bill geit i need help?
[17:05] <jw144000> erawfish: I'm in the livecd now, and when I try to access my HD, it says it's unable to mount
[17:06] <amenado> [M]orpheus-> extracting will be, mounting the iso file and then extract the files you need
[17:06] <[M]orpheus> amenado, will not work, i need to open that file like an iso...
[17:06] <erawfish> jw144000: which hdd partition? ntfs or ext3?
[17:06] <[M]orpheus> hummm
[17:06] <[M]orpheus> how do I mount that file?
[17:06] <freak_lick> change /etc/fstab file
[17:06] <jw144000> ntfs
[17:06] <lukasz> whenever i follow these instructions I get a logout freeze http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Install_the_Catalyst_8.1_Driver_Manually
[17:06] <bullgard4> [Nautilus] English help wanted. Right-click on a filename opens a shortcut menu. What is the exact English name of the sixth item in it? Is it 'Make a Link' or how?
[17:06] <jw144000> It won't boot Windows XP
[17:06] <naderman> ikonia: any ideas on what I could do?
[17:06] <posr> killall nautilus
[17:06] <erawfish> jw144000: use a windows live cd. #ubuntu is the wrong channel for you. good bye
[17:06] <amenado> [M]orpheus->  mount -o loop -t iso9660 /where/the/iso  /mountpoint
[17:06] <Paki_m_bored_in_> Hi all in alsa sound control wat is iec958 under switches?
[17:06] <freak_lick> can some1 help me with enabling my SD card reader on my toshiba Tecra A8?? It worked with PCLinuxOS 2007 out of box.. so I bet it can work with ubuntu.. I have Gutsy..
[17:06] <erawfish> naderman: dd the whole disk from /dev/zero
[17:06] <[M]orpheus> amenado, I mean that .b00 files
[17:07] <lukasz> I get a logout freeze even on Ctrl-Alt Backspace
[17:07] <naderman> erawfish: heh I hoped I could avoid that
[17:07] <erawfish> !repeat | freak_lick
[17:07] <ubotu> freak_lick: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[17:07] <bastid_raZor> jw144000; more than likely a restore from the windows cd will save the day.. i'm guessing you've tried dual booting?
[17:07] <naderman> erawfish: think I should be able to skip the windows partition though?
[17:07] <amenado> [M]orpheus-> i dont know what that .b00 file is, is it a file system that linux recognize?
[17:07] <naderman> I mean it worked before when that one already existed
[17:07] <erawfish> naderman: no clue, you cn try
[17:07] <jw144000> bastid_razOr: well, I was trying to make a partition to my hard drive and it messed up
[17:07] <[M]orpheus> amenado, hummm is a game iso... but something called blindwriter is need to open... just in win =\
[17:08] <unicum> any pidgin user here who can tell me what i need to do to be able to use another smiley theme??
[17:08] <erawfish> naderman: I told you, it writes something to some plce which you want to be erased. wherever that is
[17:08] <naderman> yeah
[17:08] <lukasz> Help pls
[17:08] <naderman> I'm trying to locate just that one place
[17:08] <naderman> ;-)
[17:08] <amenado> [M]orpheus-> the way i would do it, is again mount the iso, to then have those individual files and let the application point to it to handle it ?
[17:08] <bastid_raZor> jw144000; the xp cd can fix alot of mistakes that windows makes. windows puts system files at the end of a partition and when you change the partition it erases those needed files.
[17:09] <erawfish> [M]orpheus: if you haven't noticed already: this is not ##windows and this is no OS that supports blindwrite. ask the maker of that manure software to support their stuff. NOT ubuntu
[17:09] <bastid_raZor> jw144000; in most cases the restore/repair option in the windows cd will put those files back on the partition and fix your issue
[17:09] <cirubuntu> Help!! I lost my wireless card!!...and I got the result from a lsmod...
[17:09] <wil> I need to edit some fla templates... I looked in add remove but saw no flash editing programs, does anyone know of any?
[17:09] <Drache> I have a quick question regarding an ubuntu server installation. It appears as though the machine is restarting at random times, but I'm not too sure what the problem could be. There doesn't seem to be any errors in the syslog related to the reboot, but it's hard to tell. Does anyone have any ideas? :)
[17:09] <jga23> where are the ubuntu default icons stored?
[17:09] <Paki_m_bored_in_> Hi all in alsa sound control wat is iec958 under switches?
[17:09] <[M]orpheus> erawfish, wow man, dont need to be rude... i'm trying to sue that file on linux... its like an iso, i found a converter but doesnt work... if u dont want to help... shut up
[17:10] <[M]orpheus> amenado, there is two files with 2.0gb... its like an iso... but doesnt mount =\
[17:10] <RB2> I'm seeing a lot of strange connections outgoing from my machine... any way to track them back to a specific process?
[17:10] <leblinux> Hello, in what Package is  "autopoint" located ?
[17:10] <yaser> erawfish, [M]orpheus , i think the same as Morpheus
[17:10] <[M]orpheus> all of this is a iso: flatout2.b00  flatout2.b01  flatout2.b6i  flatout2.b6t
[17:10] <erawfish> RB2: I told you
[17:10] <Jack_Sparrow> jga23: Which icon are you trying to replace, different ones are in different places
[17:10] <erawfish> !warez
[17:10] <ubotu> piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[17:11] <amenado> [M]orpheus-> as i have said, linux will mount file system it recognize, unrecognized one, it just fails
[17:11] <erawfish> [M]orpheus: you currently violate the LAW. so please go elsewhere
[17:11] <jga23> Jack_Sparrow: I just want to use of the icons for my applications (from the human theme)
[17:11] <cirubuntu> Help!! I lost my wireless card!!...and I got the result from a lsmod...
[17:11] <erawfish> cirubuntu: what chipset?
[17:11] <[M]orpheus> erawfish, hummm, ok ok... just asking help to mount an iso... that is a backup from the DVD I BROGTH
[17:11] <cirubuntu> intel
[17:11] <erawfish> leblinux: packages.ubuntu.org
[17:12] <leblinux> thanks
[17:12] <russ> erawfish how is he violating the law by using something he owns on a machine he owns
[17:12] <[M]orpheus> Bought*
[17:12] <erawfish> [M]orpheus: doesn't matter. copying copyprotected CDs/DVDs is against the law. the law might suck but it is still the law. please ask elsewhere
[17:12] <Jack_Sparrow> jga23: /usr/share/icons/human
[17:12] <[M]orpheus> erawfish, backuping it isnt!
[17:12] <jga23> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[17:12] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[17:12] <patogen> What is the software which I can use to add a blank line to every 4th lin?
[17:13] <leblinux> erawfish, is this url correct?
[17:13] <amenado> Jack_Sparrow-> emma is not back yet...so i assume she is still installing..hehe
[17:13] <leblinux> its not opening here.
[17:13] <cirubuntu> erawfish intell
[17:13] <erawfish> [M]orpheus: you circumvent a copyprotection which is illegal under the DMCA and EUCD. so you are mistaken. you have no right to backup
[17:13] <erawfish> cirubuntu: which one? there are at least 4
[17:13] <shiwaraya> my desktop got stretched bigger than my screen size-resolution. Desktop effects are disabled. How do i solve that?
[17:13] <yaser> erawfish, [M]orpheus , thats not the law in every country
[17:13] <PriceChild> !piracy
[17:13] <ubotu> piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[17:14] <[M]orpheus> erawfish, ok ok man, didnt want to talk about that, just want to mount a f.. iso.. so think the iso is a video album that u recorded
[17:14] <astro76> it is in this channel however
[17:14] <amenado> shiwaraya-> curious is that effect on both, the analog view and the digital view?
[17:14] <cirubuntu> erawfish:  Prowireless 3945 ABG
[17:14] <erawfish> [M]orpheus: please don't lie. you make it worse
[17:14] <[M]orpheus> erawfish, hahaah
[17:14] <erawfish> !wireless | cirubuntu
[17:14] <ubotu> cirubuntu: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[17:14] <shiwaraya> amenado: yes both monitors have a double size desktop
[17:14] <yaser> erawfish, [M]orpheus , some people never understand
[17:14] <leblinux> can I build a debian package from a source that has a debian direcotry?
[17:14] <brobostigon> in england you are allowed to backup a dvd or cd, but only for backup, nothing else,and keep it as backup and never use it,
[17:14] <astro76> !packaging | leblinux
[17:14] <ubotu> leblinux: The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports
[17:15] <bardyr> [M]orpheus, sudo mount /iso/file.iso /where/to/mount -o loop
[17:15] <amenado> shiwaraya-> okay noted..
[17:15] <[M]orpheus> bardyr, thanks man, but is another kind of iso... .b00 files
[17:15] <picard_pwns_kirk> does anyone know what kind of bot the FloodBots are?
[17:15] <amenado> brobostigon-> really? back up and no ability to use it? hehe
[17:15] <erawfish> [M]orpheus: if it's a CD you bought you have the original and can make copyie with software other than blindwrite. HTH. HAND
[17:15] <shiwaraya> amenado: actually im using the digital output as an analog using a converter coz i havent got a digital monitor
[17:15] <bardyr> [M]orpheus, .r00 ?
[17:15] <erawfish> amenado: no one ever said the law has to make sense
[17:15] <benpicco_> Hi, i have no sound in UnrealTurnament 2004 - there are no error messages and aoss doesn' help, too
[17:15] <cirubuntu> ubotu: a guy asked to post the result of lsmod in installed version and in LIVE CD version...
[17:15] <Jack_Sparrow> picard_pwns_kirk: Home grown...
[17:16] <cirubuntu> ubotu: I have it now...
[17:16] <amenado> erawfish-> touche`  (spelling?)
[17:16] <[M]orpheus> erawfish, in the time I made the iso I was on work, win machines... now the DVD is with a friend in other state =\
[17:16] <astro76> cirubuntu: ubotu is a bot, go ahead and restate your question and give us a link to your pastebin
[17:16] <astro76> !paste | cirubuntu
[17:16] <ubotu> cirubuntu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[17:16] <erawfish> [M]orpheus: which means you have NO RIGHT to have and use that CD. you are illegal unedr berne convention EVERYWHERE:
[17:16] <Jack_Sparrow> [M]orpheus: Then you have no rights to it
[17:16] <erawfish> drop that piracy talk please
[17:17] <leblinux> thanks
[17:17] <shiwaraya> plz, nobody have a clue of how to solve my problem?
[17:17] <asdrubal> Rock on mah bros
[17:17] <erawfish> shiwaraya: pastebin your xorg.conf
[17:17] <brobostigon> asdrubal: rock on
[17:18] <lz7> laws are designed by rich to make more money
[17:18] <lukasz> By the way I am using Ati Radeon Intergrated Mobility 200
[17:18] <shiwaraya> erawfish: pastebin?
[17:18] <lukasz> Te drivers are fglrx
[17:18] <Jack_Sparrow> lz7:    See offtopic
[17:18] <erawfish> !paste
[17:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[17:18] <naderman> erawfish: I tried dmraid's erase feature, but I think that was even worse than /dev/zero all over the hdd ^_^
[17:18] <shiwaraya> tx!
[17:18] <kazim51> ctually my ubuntu installation gets stuck after 82% completion showing "Configuring Apt (Scanning mirror...)" ....can u tell wats the problem ?
[17:18] <[M]orpheus> erawfish, why? I leaned the dvd
[17:18] <naderman> now it tells me there are no RAID disks
[17:19] <Jack_Sparrow> kazim51: remover your network connect next time and it wont try to update...
[17:19] <[M]orpheus> that I bought erawfish
[17:19] <cirubuntu> ubotu:  make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic  ...what do You mean?
[17:19] <astro76> kazim51: non-working internet connection? is it wired or wireless? if wired pull the ethernet cable
[17:19] <Harm> man pidgin is the worst IRC client ever
[17:19] <naderman> yup that actually deleted my raid config
[17:19] <naderman> whatever, I'll just start fresh
[17:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Harm: Agreed, but there are lots and lots of others
[17:20] <astro76> Harm: heh it's not an irc client is the problem ;)
[17:20] <lz7> [M]orpheus: just dowload a real iso from torrents man LOL
[17:20] <astro76> just hacked in poorly
[17:20] <shiwaraya> ohh i have many xorg.conf files in etc/x11 wichone is the right one?
[17:20] <Jack_Sparrow> lz7: Please stop..
[17:20] <shiwaraya> erafish:^^
[17:21] <brobostigon> harm: i use many differnet protocolls for IM, so i prefer to have only one prog open than 4-5
[17:21] <maybeway36> shiwaraya: the one thats just "xorg.conf"
[17:21] <amenado> kazim51-> I now remove the pc I install from the network, faster install completion, and once done, then i connect the network stuff and do updates..
[17:21] <astro76> Harm: try xchat for irc
[17:21] <cirubuntu>  astro76:  make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic  ...what do You mean?
[17:22] <shiwaraya> maybeway: erawfish: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55481/
[17:22] <astro76> !paste | cirubuntu
[17:22] <ubotu> cirubuntu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[17:22] <bullgard4> [Nautilus] English help wanted. Right-click on a filename opens a shortcut menu. What is the exact English name of the sixth item in it? Is it 'Make a Link' or how?
[17:22] <kazim51> Jack_Sparrow, amenado, astro76, I'll try this. Thanks for help.
[17:22] <astro76> cirubuntu: use that web site to paste what you were asked to get
[17:23] <zLoSteR> how can i adjust subtitles delay in TOTEM ?
[17:23] <zLoSteR> is anyone knows ?
[17:23] <lordleemo_> bullgard4: copy
[17:23] <astro76> bullgard4: "Make Link"
[17:23] <cirubuntu> astro76: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55482/
[17:23] <DRebellion> zLoSteR, totem is a waste of time. you can do all sorts of advanced stuff like that with mplayer.
[17:24] <lukasz> Help pls
[17:24] <astro76> cirubuntu: you should restate your question to the channel
[17:24] <usser> mplayer is a piece of junk u can do all that and more with xine
[17:24] <bullgard4> astro76: Thank you very much for your help.
[17:24] <brobostigon> even better is vlc
[17:25] <cirubuntu> astro76: My wireless card doesn-t work anymore after an update...but it works just from LIVE CD..i am using now.
[17:25] <amenado> anything more better? hehe
[17:25] <bastid_raZor> vlc has poor subtitle support.. my opinion is mplayer
[17:25] <drew_chicago> how can I resize a partition that has unallocated space BEFORE the partion?
[17:25] <maybeway36> resize, then move?
[17:25] <astro76> drew_chicago: you have to move then resize
[17:25] <maybeway36> idk
[17:26] <brobostigon> drew_chicago: try gparted
[17:26] <maybeway36> sounds right
[17:26] <cirubuntu> astro76: I posted the result of the command lsmod for both the LIVE CD and INSTALLED VERSION
[17:26] <sandy_> ok
[17:26] <astro76> cirubuntu: good, hopefully someone can help ;)
[17:26] <witepa> Hi, I have an interesting problem... I have a WUSB54GC USB wireless card... and I have the driver installed, but for some odd reason I only have access to google.com... but no other sites. What is the problem?
[17:26] <shiwaraya> any help with my xorg.xconf --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55481/
[17:26] <sandy_> good
[17:26] <cirubuntu> astro76: what do u mean?
[17:27] <sandy_> I don't speak english
[17:27] <amenado> witepa   can you  paste your  route -n  and iwconfig results.. use pastebin please
[17:27] <cirubuntu> astro76: could you help me?...what shall i wait?
[17:27] <astro76> cirubuntu: the way the channel works is you ask a question, and wait for someone to answer
[17:27] <lukasz> Im gonna try something
[17:27] <unicum> does pidgin 2.2.1 (ubuntu 7.10 gutsy) actually support other smiley themes?
[17:27] <drew_chicago> tried gparted, wasn't too clear how to do it. what do I move? the full partion or the unallocated space?
[17:27] <astro76> cirubuntu: I would if I had an idea
[17:28] <sandy_> what ?
[17:28] <maybeway36> you want to resize to fill it up?
[17:28] <cirubuntu> astro76: do i have to stay connected or come back later?
[17:28] <maybeway36> drew_chicago: resize the partition
[17:28] <astro76> cirubuntu: stick around, reask every 10 minutes or so if no one answers
[17:28] <kritzstapf> for me vlc scales subtitles in the wrong direction, so when i do fullscreen the subs get huge, is this a known bug?
[17:28] <naderman> erawfish: think it might be an idea to leave some space between the windows partition and the linux partitions?
[17:29] <drew_chicago> my / partition is full I need to make it bigger. I have unallocated space before the partion but gparted won't let me resize, move nothing
[17:29] <astro76> cirubuntu: also try searching ubuntuforums.org while you wait
[17:29] <cirubuntu> astro76: how can i see if somebody found a solution?
[17:29] <astro76> cirubuntu: they will respond directly to you as I am doing
[17:29] <Jack_Sparrow> drew_chicago: You cant resize a mounted partition.. you will need touse live
[17:29] <bastid_raZor> kritzstapf; it isn't a bug. vlc just has poor subtitle support. i suggest mplayer as an alternate player that has excellent subtitle support
[17:29] <naderman> erawfish: maybe the live cd will use that space then, and leave my dmraid alone
[17:30] <astro76> cirubuntu: your irc client should hilight when someone uses your nickname
[17:30] <Arelis> Can anybody help me? I can't login to my system anymore via the system consoles (TTYs), and a terminal refuses to work too. There's many bash processes, and my CPU is running at 100%. Here is a screenshot: http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3664/schermafdruknk5.png
[17:30] <sandy_> ciao
[17:30] <erawfish> drew_chicago: are you booting from the / that is too small?
[17:30] <drew_chicago> Jack_Sparrow, I did try a live CD, Ubuntu live, gparted live CD, same result
[17:30] <sandy_> ++
[17:30] <cirubuntu> astro76:...I would just to reinstall the wireless card using my LIVE cd....
[17:30] <kritzstapf> bastid_raZor: of course it is a bug, does anyone expect a player to scale subtitles wrong?
[17:30] <Jack_Sparrow> drew_chicago: you can also burn /var/cache/apt/archives to a cd or dvd then delete the contents to make room for now
[17:30] <cirubuntu> astro76: is it possible?
[17:30] <drew_chicago> erawfish, yes it boots and it works but its 99% full
[17:30] <bastid_raZor> kritzstapf; okay, i don't think #ubuntu is the place to ask about vlc bug issues though :)
[17:31] <astro76> cirubuntu: no that's not what you want to do, that is for certain ;)
[17:31] <hyper__ch> is ubuntufourms down?
[17:31] <erawfish> drew_chicago: boot from a livecd nad DON't have the / mounted
[17:31] <artspace> restricted-manager segfaults for me - what is the old fashioned way of enabling nvidia driver please?
[17:31] <erawfish> artspace: apt-cache search nvidia|grep nvidia
[17:32] <cirubuntu> astro76: did you recive my link and command result?
[17:32] <witepa> amenado: K, almost uploaded
[17:32] <drew_chicago> Jack_Sparrow, backup of apt/archives is a good idea, thanks. I'll try the live CD again, but I don't think the drive was mounted
[17:32] <Jack_Sparrow> drew_chicago: See also aptoncd
[17:33] <amenado> witepa okay
[17:33] <hacked``> how can I make c++ look for files first in usr/local before looking in usr/
[17:33] <witepa> amenado: route -n http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55484/ iwconfig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55485/
[17:34] <drew_chicago> well I'm off to see if that works, hopefully I won't be back. thanks
[17:34] <jacekowski> is chance for netinstall of ubuntu on sony vaio through wifi?
[17:34] <amenado> witepa where is the result of  route -n  ?
[17:35] <amenado> jacekowski-> i have not heard of such to work, pxe via wifi...
[17:35] <amenado> jacekowski-> but ethernet yes..
[17:35] <antaning> hi all, i've a problem with ubuntu 7.10 audio on an acer 5920g, when i use headphone, the on-board sound is not disactivated
[17:35] <hacked``> guys
[17:35] <hacked``> today I tried to compile something in ubuntu, but the openssl installed lacks IDEA, I wanted to enable IDEA in openssl and compiled it and installed it to usr/local, I don't want to overwrite what was installed by the system in usr
[17:35] <hacked``> i know I can change the include statement to point to usr/local but is there a way to change the behavior, like in short my question is how can I make c++ look for files first in usr/local before looking in usr
[17:35] <antaning> may someone help me?
[17:36] <wil> does anyone know of a good program that allows me to edit flash files and a program that allows me to mount iso files as cd rom drives?
[17:36] <witepa> amenado: the route -n is right here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55484/
[17:36] <DRebellion> wil, 2) mount -o loop file.iso /path/to/mountpoint
[17:37] <wil> DRebellion: thanks again for help!
[17:37] <shiwaraya> what is the comand to reconfigure xorg?
[17:37] <amenado> witepa those both looked good, can you ping your 192.168.0.1 ?
[17:38] <jacekowski> wil: iso images - mount -o loop /path/to.iso /place/to/mount
[17:38] <MasterShrek> shiwaraya, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[17:38] <acee1234> can anyone tell me how to keep my computer from freezing when i try to restart x or even log out using ati x1400 with restricted drivers
[17:38] <shiwaraya> MasterShrek: tx
[17:39] <MasterShrek> texas?
[17:39] <MasterShrek> =P
[17:39] <witepa> amenado: no, 100% packet loss
[17:39] <nisto> test
[17:39] <MasterShrek> failed
[17:40] <amenado> hacked``-> the order of directory read is how they are on the PATH right? so maybe adjust the order in the PATH whichever path the library requires
[17:40] <amenado> witepa ping your localhost and the ip address assigned to it?
[17:40] <antaning> i've a problem with audio on ubuntu 7.10, using headphone the system doesn't switch off on board audio, may u help me?
[17:41] <menllyos> anyone has got a website or something describing how users and groups work in linux?
[17:41] <MasterShrek> !users
[17:41] <ubotu> To add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo
[17:41] <DRebellion> menllyos, just ask here ;)
[17:41] <lz7> antaning: try updating sound system or 8.04
[17:41] <DRebellion> lz7, please do not recommend people to use hardy.
[17:42] <menllyos> i dont necesarily want to add users... i just want to know how the user/group system works :)
[17:42] <witepa> amenado: that works
[17:42] <warriorforgod> menllyos: wikipedia
[17:42] <warriorforgod> menllyos: just type in linux users or linux groups
[17:42] <antaning> lzt i'd like to keep my os
[17:42] <amenado> witepa-> are these addresses assigned to you static?  maybe you can paste your  /etc/network/interfaces file too?
[17:42] <kurtis> my school has instructions for accessing a personal network drive on windows XP, is there a synonymous way to do that in Ubuntu
[17:43] <sarthor>  Hi, I want to block any of image of size "http://ads1.msn.com/ads/1/0000000001_000000000000000163044.jpg", I am using "deny_info" in squid. but the images on the website changing day by day, how can i tell to squid to block the image of this site and put my own banner there???? Help please
[17:43] <DRebellion> kurtis, what sort of "personal network drive" is it?
[17:43] <amenado> kurtis-> you have a usb drive? thats your personal drive :)
[17:44] <kurtis> Drebellion, Im not quite sure, all it says is that i would need to go into my network places and use the add network place wizard. then once in there type a web address like this https://homedir.csbsju.edu/homedir/username
[17:44] <ThistleWeb> hi all, I'm looking for some help in switching back on my window borders in gutsy. I tried to get a better video driver and failed, now after returning everything to the way it was my window borders are missing
[17:44] <DRebellion> kurtis, do you have a link to the instructions?
[17:44] <kurtis> yes
[17:44] <kurtis> DRebeliion, http://www.csbsju.edu/itservices/knowledgebase/data/windows/homedirectory.htm
[17:44] <sulle> ANnyone know a program that i can make some comandore music with?.
[17:45] <amenado> kurtis if you were using  kde, the file browser supports   fish:///remotesite/   to view your remote home securely
[17:45] <kurtis> amenado, alas i'm in Gnome
[17:45] <shiwaraya> do i have to activate Kernel Framebuffer device interface in my xserver-xorg?
[17:46] <shiwaraya> default is NO
[17:46] <witepa> amenado: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55487/
[17:46] <amenado> kurtis anyhow it just your home/public_html  directory that is exposed. basically your personal web page
[17:47] <DRebellion> kurtis, places -> connect to server. then choose (https) WebDav
[17:47] <amenado> witepa can you try to use non roaming see if it makes a difference  set this in network manager
[17:48] <kurtis> DRebellion, do i type in the address in the server box?
[17:48] <DRebellion> kurtis, probably
[17:48] <kurtis> Drebellion, because i tried that and it didn't work
[17:49] <DRebellion> kurtis, did you also specify a user name?
[17:49] <kurtis> DRebellion, yes, hold on let me try it one more time
[17:49] <hyper__ch>  local root-exploit for linux 2.6.17 to 2.6.24.1 and 2.6.23.15 --> http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/2/10/8
[17:50] <sulle> !topic
[17:50] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[17:50] <mcquaid> has anyone used a program that uses clutter with a nvidia card?
[17:50] <kurtis> DRebellion, "no host "https" could be found."
[17:50] <mcquaid> I'm trying out some programs for media front ends like entertainer and gloss for myth and so far, all of them give me the error:
[17:50] <witepa> amenado: It made no difference...
[17:50] <mcquaid> failed to bind GLXGetProcAddress or GLXGetProcAddressARB
[17:50] <DRebellion> kurtis, try without putting "https://" in front of the sever
[17:50] <sulle> ANnyone knows about a program that i can make some commandore music with?
[17:50] <mcquaid> i read it might be a nvidia issue but can't find much.  maybe something I have to enable in xorg?
[17:51] <ZaphodBeeblebrox> Greetings. I've followed this tutorial to make a bootable write-enabled Ubuntu on my pendrive: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent (The log of everything I've done is at: http://pastebin.ca/898850) and my pendrive's syslinux.cfg is at: http://pastebin.ca/898851  When I try to boot via pendrive I only get a "Boot error" message. Can someone please enlighten me?
[17:51] <amenado> witepa  try this  sudo "ifdown wlan0; ifup wlan0"
[17:51] <Forghakrwehgacdg> http://tinyurl.com/2ftdlt
[17:51] <yasmin> anyone know how to set up verizon dsl on 7.10?
[17:51] <DrRighteous> Hoping someone can help me. I've got my first Ubuntu Desktop (v7.10) running... In the terminal window, keys like - or + come out as different characters. But in programs like Text Editor they work... Can't figure it out.
[17:51] <sn0w> is it possible to not have icons automatically appear on my desktop when I mount something?
[17:51] <Forghakrwehgacdg> actually, I could use that knowledge as well, XD
[17:52] <adorablepuppy> all my windows
[17:52] <sourcemaker> damm... I can use vpn in linux.. what's wrong... I try to connect with a windows vpn server but it does not work The connection is established.. but the route does not work... I can ping the server I require twice... then the route is wrong... no ping
[17:52] <amenado> ZaphodBeeblebrox-> does your bios even support booting off of a usb drive?
[17:52] <zodmaner> Guys, what IRC client are you using?
[17:52] <ZaphodBeeblebrox> amenado: Yes, it does
[17:52] <kurtis> drebellion, hold on one second
[17:52] <ZaphodBeeblebrox> zodmaner: Pidgin here
[17:53] <DRebellion> ZaphodBeeblebrox, ewww! dump that and go for xchat or irssi
[17:53] <ZaphodBeeblebrox> rofl
[17:53] <acee1234> can anyone tell me how to keep my computer from freezing when i try to restart x or even log out using ati x1400 with restricted drivers
[17:53] <witepa> amenado: hmm, that is not doing anything
[17:53] <kurtis> drebellion, IT WORKED
[17:53] <kurtis> DREBELLION, Thanks a bunch
[17:53] <DRebellion> kurtis, :)
[17:53] <amenado> witepa if you  type  iwconfig wlan0  do you still have same ip address?
[17:54] <kurtis> drebellion, thanks a bunch man
[17:54] <aladdinsane> Would Ubuntu automatically add it self to my Grub if i installed it? Im running Xubuntu at the moment
[17:54] <ThistleWeb> can anyone help with a window border problem in gutsy?
[17:54] <howdoudo> Is there a channel for Openoffice that is active?
[17:54] <eagle-101> amenado, I don't see why you would have a changed IP addy...
[17:54] <DRebellion> aladdinsane, why would you want to dual boot ubuntu and xubuntu? surely you could just install ubuntu-desktop
[17:54]  * Timon_Crazy приветствует всех
[17:54] <warriorforgod> aladdinsane: An easier way would be to install ubuntu-desktop
[17:54]  * AxeZ-aWay is Away, Reason: ( AxeZ ) | Since: ( Sunday, February 10, 2008. 12:24:46 ) Xlack v2.1
[17:55] <ZaphodBeeblebrox> I've followed this tutorial to make a bootable write-enabled Ubuntu on my pendrive: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent (The log of everything I've done is at: http://pastebin.ca/898850) and my pendrive's syslinux.cfg is at: http://pastebin.ca/898851  When I try to boot via pendrive I only get a "Boot error" message. Can someone please enlighten me?
[17:55] <thiemster> whenever i press the delete key, ubuntu freezes. i have to unfreeze it by pressing escape
[17:55] <aladdinsane> warriorforgod: ok, so if i install that i could just switch between them without reboot you mean?
[17:55] <amenado> eagle-101-> as a dhcp client if it expired or a new request has been made
[17:56] <DRebellion> howdoudo, #openoffice.org
[17:56] <warriorforgod> aladdinsane: yeah, you could just select which environtment you want on bootup.
[17:56] <thiemster> whenever i press the delete key, ubuntu freezes. i have to unfreeze it by pressing escape
[17:56] <warriorforgod> aladdinsane: When you are logging in.
[17:56] <artspace> is there any way to fix a segfault? I have a brand new install and restricted-manager will not open :(
[17:56] <sergiu23> anyone knows javascript? i have a question :)
[17:56] <DRebellion> artspace, try reinstalling it
[17:57] <witepa> amenado: well, hold on a sec, my terminal crashed...
[17:57] <warriorforgod> artspace: how fast did you burn the install disk at?
[17:57] <zt7724> ZaphodBeeblebrox: you should run syslinux with sudo
[17:58] <ZaphodBeeblebrox> zt7724: Oh my... is that it? Can I just redo this single step now?
[17:58] <clearzen> when I login to my ubuntu server I am always presented with the same default login message. How do I change/delete it?
[17:58] <ZaphodBeeblebrox> Or I must redo the whole thing?
[17:58] <amenado> ZaphodBeeblebrox-> also it seems you have left out a step? the part where you have to put a manifest?
[17:58] <warriorforgod> clearzen: change /etc/motd
[17:58] <zt7724> ZaphodBeeblebrox: only this step
[17:58] <thiemster> is there any way to use itunes in ubuntu?
[17:58] <shiwaraya> !paste
[17:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[17:58] <artspace> warriorforgod, dunno i did it on a mac and it did not ask
[17:58] <aladdinsane> warriorforgod: ok that sounds good, im gonna try it out, i guess the mase goes for kubuntu then
[17:58] <ZaphodBeeblebrox> amenado: Sorry, what do you mean?
[17:58] <zodmaner> Hm... is the forum down?
[17:58] <artspace> I have installed several systems from this disk before
[17:58] <clearzen> thanks
[17:59] <warriorforgod> artspace: try burning again and see if you can find an option to burn at 4x or lower
[17:59] <warriorforgod> Then verifty disk integrity from install cd bootscreen menu
[17:59] <amenado> ZaphodBeeblebrox-> the whole iso archive has to have a manifest to know the contents..remastering a livecd or bootable usb, I believe you have to have that for the loader to know where things are and if its complete
[17:59] <warriorforgod> aladdinsane: sure dost.  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[17:59] <acee1234> if no one is able to address my issue with x not restarting who might i ask
[18:00] <warriorforgod> acee1234: You can try asking in xorg
[18:00] <ZaphodBeeblebrox> amenado: Oh, I've just used the CD I've got from Canonical.... I thought it was enough
[18:00] <amenado> acee1234-> can you log on to a console? then try startx  and see if you get any kind of X window
[18:00] <yasmin> anyone know how to set up verizon dsl on 7.10?
[18:01] <cvega> stupid question - does alternate ubuntu install cd have an utility to resize an ntfs partition?
[18:01] <amenado> ZaphodBeeblebrox-> i dont think so, read up on it again and look for key word of manifest
[18:01] <cvega> or is it only livecd
[18:01] <shiwaraya> My desktop got stretched (Bigger) than my screen resolution so it automaticly scrolls, how do i get my desktop the same size than my screen? my xorg.conf --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55494/
[18:01] <warriorforgod> cvega download and burn gparted
[18:01] <DRebellion> cvega, i would recommend gparted
[18:01] <ZaphodBeeblebrox> amenado: I've searched for "manifest". Didn't found any occurrence...
[18:01] <cvega> the gparted livecd?
[18:01] <cvega> and then use alternate?
[18:01] <warriorforgod> cvega: yes
[18:01] <cvega> livecd takes forever for some reason.
[18:01] <cvega> even with 2gb ram
[18:01] <amenado> yasmin-> normally you only plug it in and play, open the browser to point to your dslmodem/router web page which typically are 192.168.0.1
[18:02] <RoboCop> Configuration failed. The following error occured:
[18:02] <RoboCop> Could not detect sqlite3! Please specify the path to the directory containing sqlite3.h via the command line option --sqlite3-includes="/path/to/file"
[18:02] <amenado> ZaphodBeeblebrox-> maybe you have to google for it manifest and remastering livecd
[18:02] <ZaphodBeeblebrox> let me try zt7724 suggestion first. If it still doesn't work I'll try with the iso all over again. Thanks for now, zt7724 and amenado
[18:02] <DRebellion> /away
[18:02] <acee1234> amenado: trying
[18:02] <DRebellion> aww crap
[18:02] <cvega> how reliable is gparted
[18:02] <DRebellion> cvega, its fine
[18:02] <cvega> i have backups, but still would hate to loose my windows data.
[18:02] <RoboCop> help?
[18:03] <cvega> i want to squeeze ubuntu onto my laptop in dualboot with exsiting windows installation
[18:03] <adorablepuppy> all my windows start with the title bar just outside the display. Using desktop effects, any way I can fix this without disabling?
[18:03] <cvega> is gparted what i need?
[18:03] <amenado> cvega if I were you, i would verify your backup first before doing anything else :)
[18:03] <warriorforgod> cvega: hwo big is the hard drive?
[18:03] <cvega> 80gb
[18:03] <cvega> with 40gb free...
[18:03] <ja> yy
[18:03] <clearzen> cvega: the only time I ran into a error with gparted is with a partition over 1TB
[18:03] <amenado> cvega-> lots of people find out, that their back up was no good to begin with. so verify first
[18:04] <ja> are you polish??
[18:04] <cvega> backup is fine.. just did it.
[18:04] <warriorforgod> cvega: You should be able to fit ubuntu in 20 gb to play with
[18:04] <amenado> then use gparted
[18:04] <acee1234> amenado: x starts when the computer starts but if i log out or ctrl+alt+backspace my background is the only thing showing and the comp freezes
[18:04] <cvega> 20gb?
[18:04] <warriorforgod> cvega: yeah, to play with.  YOu can always make the partition bigger later with gparted
[18:04] <amenado> cvega doing a backup and verification are two different steps..just giving you a heads up
[18:04] <cvega> ubuntu wont have a problem with /boot being over 1024 ?
[18:04] <cvega> over the 1024th block that is
[18:05] <amenado> cvega i have /boot in different drives..so i assume nope
[18:05] <RoboCop> Configuration failed. The following error occured:
[18:05] <RoboCop> Could not detect sqlite3! Please specify the path to the directory containing sqlite3.h via the command line option --sqlite3-includes="/path/to/file"
[18:05] <RoboCop> help
[18:05] <cvega> kk.
[18:05] <cvega> thanks
[18:05]  * cvega proceeds to mutilate his laptop
[18:05] <didkoddd> whats up lamers
[18:05] <didkoddd> :)
[18:05] <cvega> cheers.
[18:06] <amenado> acee1234-> freezes as you can not type anything else?
[18:06] <hacked``> guys, does ubuntu only support WEP?  im installing it on my laptop, and it asked me what my primary network card is, so i say my wireless card, then it asks me for my essid, so i enter it, then it asks me for my WEP key, but i use WPA-PSK TKIP, not WEP, and it wont allow me to enter that anywhere, whats going on here
[18:06] <DRebellion> RoboCop, have you installed libsqlite3-0 ??
[18:06] <erawfish> !wpa
[18:06] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[18:06] <acee1234> amenado: there is no place to type everything disappears except my background and the comp freezes
[18:06] <witepa> amenado: alright, rebooted. iwconfig wlan 0 says that it does not exist
[18:06] <amenado> hacked``-> maybe the driver only supports wep?
[18:07] <erawfish> hacked``: wpasuppicant for wpa
[18:07] <RoboCop> DRebellion dont know.
[18:07] <DRebellion> RoboCop, well, install it then...
[18:07] <amenado> acee1234-> i dont know man, your stuff is voodoo'ed ehehhe..
[18:07] <shiwaraya> can someone help me unstretching my desktop?
[18:07] <clearzen> hacked``: it will depend on your wireless card if it supports that type of encryption
[18:07] <RoboCop> DRebellion  i see it . its installed
[18:07] <amenado> witepa so reload your wifi driver
[18:08] <acee1234> amenado: ill get the local exorcist
[18:08] <DRebellion> RoboCop, install libsqlite3-dev
[18:08] <hacked``> so you're saying i have to add WPA support after i install it ?
[18:08] <hacked``> whats the point then
[18:08] <asghar> hi
[18:08] <acee1234> perhaps Constantine
[18:08] <clearzen> hacked``: No, some linux wireless drivers support it. Some dont
[18:08] <witepa> amenado: how
[18:09] <warriorforgod> hacked``: linux is not windows.  You have to want to make things work sometimes.
[18:09] <amenado> acee1234-> at least you have verified your X works...
[18:09] <asghar> need your help im not able to install my realtek sound driver on ubuntu, my laptop is asus w7j
[18:09] <clearzen> hacked``: I don't think you should have to add patches to the drivers though. That would be unusual
[18:09] <amenado> witepa-> whats the chip on your wifi card?
[18:09] <hacked``> how will linux change the desktop world, if it wont even enable my wireless card to work on install ?
[18:09] <hacked``> see what im getting at here
[18:09] <brad__> !flash
[18:09] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[18:09] <Aquahallic> Afternoon folks
[18:09] <warriorforgod> hacked``: Point is ability to freely use and customeize your pc, not have some other company tell you what you can and cannot do with it.
[18:09] <emma> Well I just did a complete new install of Ubuntu.
[18:09] <brad__> !restricted
[18:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[18:09] <emma> I wiped out my windows partition.
[18:09] <asghar> i have followed the following link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[18:09] <hacked``> now i have to go to another pc, download some wpa supplicant, put it on a usb stick, then bring it back
[18:09] <acee1234> amenado: ive heard its some issue caused by the ati restricted driver but being restricted it cant be "fixed"
[18:09] <clearzen> hacked``: if you want a prebuilt model don't get legoes
[18:10] <astro76> hacked``: what asked you? you should be using the network manager in the tray, I don't think the network control panel supports wpa
[18:10] <amenado> hacked``-> umm on the 7.10 liveCd the wpa stuff is there...
[18:10] <longshot77> how can I install perl modules using cpan
[18:10] <hacked``> amenado, i am using 7.10
[18:10] <witepa> amenado: well, it is a WUSB54GC, but I am not sure to what chip it is. Maybe broadcom?
[18:10] <emma> The choices it gave for making your own partition didn't make sense to me so I just formated the whole hard drive.
[18:10] <amenado> acee1234-> possibly so, i dont have those nice 3-D video cards so i have not really come across such issues yet
[18:10] <lukasz> Ctrl-Alt Backspace doesn't freeze no more :)
[18:11] <wil> join #wine
[18:11] <wil> ahh
[18:11] <amenado> witepa ahh the infamous broadcom 43xx...maybe they have a solution for it now..
[18:11] <lukasz> Just quit logout frezzes
[18:11] <lukasz> Damn lil bug
[18:11] <s0u][ight> !dualboot
[18:11] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[18:11] <LiKuiD_SiLeNcE> hello everyone.
[18:11] <acee1234> amenado: ill continue to snoop around
[18:11] <oscar> hola
[18:11] <oscar> jejeje
[18:11] <lukasz> I need to find out where the default Compiz  compiz-manager is
[18:11] <oscar> tu estas aki
[18:11] <oscar> aveeeeee
[18:11] <amenado> emma why?  it just displays all the partitions it see and then you pick and choose which one you want to format or resize or erase..
[18:11] <DRebellion> !es | oscar
[18:11] <emma> So now I have gutsy and it's on my whole computer. No windows.
[18:11] <ubotu> oscar: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[18:11] <sn0w> is it possible to not have icons automatically appear on my desktop when I mount something?
[18:11] <oscar> AVE
[18:11] <witepa> amenado: I actually got broadcom 43xx to work on another computer last night!
[18:11] <hacked``> astro76, the point is that WPA is not "new technology", its been around for years, and furthermore, if it only supports WEP, a known insecure encryption method, doesnt that say a lot to how unsafe linux really is? see what im saying here? if anything it should only support WPA or higher
[18:12] <DRebellion> sn0w, don't mount it in /media
[18:12] <witepa> amenado: there is actually a non ndiswrapper solution
[18:12] <emma> amenado - It wasn't clear which ones I should change, and when I tried to make my own, I made two, but the third it says was 'unusable'
[18:12] <sn0w> DRebellion, thats it?
[18:12] <RoboCop> DRebellion . done. what now
[18:12] <Devoust> Hello all.
[18:12] <astro76> hacked``: I'm not in for points or arguments... I have bcm4306 and it does wpa with network manager out of the box, just trying to help
[18:12] <amenado> witepa i heard there are solutions around, i just have not read it yet myself
[18:12] <witepa> amenado: but, I am just really confused wtih this situation
[18:12] <clearzen> hacked``: wep encryption has nothing to do with the stability or security of linux
[18:12] <shiwaraya> a program like FL Studio for ubuntu?
[18:12] <Devoust> I got ubuntu finally installed and running.
[18:12] <DRebellion> RoboCop, now try again
[18:12] <Devoust> But I cannot find my internet as Im on wifi only
[18:12] <emma> but now, with gutsy, everything is so small.
[18:12] <amenado> emma well at least you are full pledge ubuntu now...hehe
[18:12] <lukasz> I got the freeze prob out of the way :)
[18:12] <clearzen> hacked``: talk to the wireless card vendors
[18:13] <DRebellion> sn0w, what? you want it to be harder?
[18:13] <emma> Is there any way to make the graphics (text etc) larger?
[18:13] <lukasz> Only for Ctrl-Alt Backspace
[18:13] <amenado> emma am a man, we dont like to hear those..hahaha
[18:13] <emma> I think the resolution might be too tiny.
[18:13] <sn0w> DRebellion, it usually is
[18:13] <DRebellion> !enter | emma
[18:13] <ubotu> emma: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[18:13] <shiwaraya> im getting pissed of how many problems ubuntu gives me with graphics. Any other more stable distro i could try?
[18:13] <RoboCop> DRebellion . all over again. cant  i just locate sqlite3.h ?
[18:13] <emma> lol amenado
[18:13] <astro76> emma: did your resolution change?
[18:13] <lukasz> I got ati shiwaraya
[18:14] <DRebellion> RoboCop,  sudo updatedb && locate sqlite3.h
[18:14] <hacked``> clearzen, of course WEP has something to do with the security of linux, if my neighbor cracks my wep key, and logs onto my network, linux would be the contributing factor to this breach, as it did not prevent me from enabling WEP, it encouraged me if anything because thats the only option it gave me
[18:14] <emma> Yes it seems like my resolution changed. Everything is small. Is there a way to put it back to the size things used to be?
[18:14] <arnducky> hacked``, please take that to #ubuntu-offtopic -- IT security enthusiasts abound there
[18:14] <amenado> witepa  yeah its a hustle to get that usb wifi dongle working plus it is using broadcom chips...yikes
[18:14] <hacked``> arnducky, ok
[18:14] <clearzen> hacked``: then tunnel your network traffic over gpg
[18:14] <lukasz> When are  the forums gonna be back up again?
[18:14] <DRebellion> emma, system -> administration -> screens and graphics
[18:14] <oscar> hola
[18:14] <oscar> hola
[18:14] <hacked``> clearzen, ok
[18:14] <oscar> hola
[18:14] <oscar> hol
[18:14] <emma> my screen resolution seems to be on 1280x1024
[18:14] <clearzen> hacked``: or ssh
[18:14] <oscar> hola
[18:14] <oscar> hola
[18:14] <FloodBot2> oscar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:14] <shiwaraya> lukasz: i have a nvidia gforce4 suposed to be full compatible
[18:15] <lukasz> hmm
[18:15] <oscar> alguine abla español
[18:15] <DRebellion> !es | oscar
[18:15] <amenado> emma you can get to System->preferences or maybe administration and look around under those menus
[18:15] <ubotu> oscar: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[18:15] <astro76> !es | oscar
[18:15] <clearzen> hacked``: poit is some cards do support it so only support vendors that allow opensource devs access to the material they need then
[18:15] <tigran> Hey. When I connect to a server (Windows share), under Places, and then click on it, it takes me to my Home folder instead.Is this a bug?
[18:15] <lukasz> If it asks you to delete something after installing ati people don't delete it
[18:15] <clearzen> hacked``:*point
[18:16] <DRebellion> tigran, sounds like it
[18:16] <lukasz> brb
[18:16] <DRebellion> tigran, did you specify the right options?
[18:16] <tigran> DRebellion: What if it worked a day ago?
[18:16] <HetaUma> any ideas how can I add the 3d plugin for compiz-fusion ?
[18:17] <DRebellion> !eyecandy | HetaUma
[18:17] <lukasz> back
[18:17] <ubotu> HetaUma: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[18:17] <dade> Hey so I am dating this ecuadorian girl and we have been on five dates and she flirts with me, but still no kisses after 5 DATES? what should I do? also she is not religious, and only conversates with me via text messages and does not answer when I call..What should I do
[18:17] <dade> ?
[18:17] <emma> Okay this is a little better
[18:17] <DRebellion> HetaUma, :/ that's not what i had in mind...
[18:17] <tigran> DRebellion: I just clicked Browse Network and that takes me to my Home folder as well. Weird.
[18:17]  * lukasz Wonders when the forums will be up and running
[18:17] <DRebellion> dade, you should ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:17] <CarlF1> trying to record from mic to file.  before I get to that, trying to use mplayer /dev/dsp - but even without that, my headphones play what the mic pics up, so i can't tell if mplayer is actually reading from /dsp.  anyone know how I disconnect the mic in from the headphone out?
[18:18] <zombie_monkey> I have a question. What handles substitution of glyphs with those fomr otehr fonts when the default one doesn't have the glyph?
[18:18] <RoboCop> DRebellion . i have located it. but in the app setup. it says .bash: --sqlite3-includes=/usr/include/sqlite3.h: No such file or directory
[18:18] <Aquahallic> Folks.... I used to listen to a specific radio station from Windows Media Player... now that I'm on ubuntu and I go to that page with firefox I see it load up a little Play button and status bar but it seems the stream is not starting up..... is there some plugin I need that will let me listen to my old windows media player formated streams??
[18:18] <RoboCop> loguser1@pc1:~/Desktop/inspircd/inspircd$
[18:18] <shiwaraya> botting ubuntu takes forever because of trying to check a removed hard disk. I allready comented those disks on fstab and still doing the same. how can i solve it?
[18:18] <arnducky> !offtopic | dade
[18:18] <oscar> hola
[18:18] <ubotu> dade: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[18:18] <emma> The resolution was on 1280x1024 but its much easier to look at when it is on 1152x864  .     Why do you suppose that is?
[18:18] <oscar> alguien me puede aydar
[18:18] <DRebellion> Aquahallic, i would recommend mozilla-mplayer
[18:18] <HetaUma> DRebellion, do u know if it is included in the repos or should I install it manually ?
[18:18] <oscar> porfavor
[18:18] <s0u][ight> hello i can't shrink my c:\ can anyone help me? got vista running
[18:19] <thiemster> when i start openoffice, it starts in fullscreen. how do i get it out of fullscreen?
[18:19] <lukasz> yey almost complete
[18:19] <RoboCop> DRebellion  why
[18:19] <lukasz> :)
[18:19] <thiemster> s0u][ight: use gparted
[18:19] <Aquahallic> DRebellion: is that a stand-alone player or a plugin to fire off something else like rhythmbox or something???
[18:19] <thiemster> s0u][ight: get the live cd
[18:19] <tigran> thiemster: Close it when its not mazimized. It should remember the last size.
[18:19] <zombie_monkey> thiemster: isn't it a better diea to do it with vista's built in partition editor?
[18:20] <HetaUma> thiemster, ctrl+shift+J
[18:20] <s0u][ight> i got the live cd but didn't understand how it worked
[18:20] <s0u][ight> it is ntfs
[18:20] <thiemster> zombie_monkey: it works really well for me
[18:20] <nemilar> This is freenode right?
[18:20] <lukasz> very simple s0u][ight
[18:20] <lukasz> :)
[18:20] <DRebellion> Aquahallic, that will play in the browser
[18:20] <tigran> DRebellion: Oh. I'm pretty sure this started after I installed Hamachi. Could that be a cause?
[18:20] <RoboCop> DRebellion  you there
[18:20] <DRebellion> RoboCop, yeh, one second
[18:20] <thiemster> HetaUma: i'll try it
[18:20] <shiwaraya> are my questions to difficult? should i just reinstall ubuntu?
[18:20] <RoboCop> DRebellion  k
[18:21] <jerkface> when will the forums be back online?
[18:21] <darknature> i don't believe ubuntu is reading my intel 945 mobile graphic right. Its acting like its not sending the amount of FPS it should. I set my graphic card to share maxDVT of my memory please help
[18:21] <thiemster> HetaUma: nope, doesn't work
[18:21] <zombie_monkey> So does anyone know what handles substitution of glyphs with those from other fonts when the default one doesn't have the glyph?
[18:21] <Aquahallic> will rhythmbox handle windows media player format??
[18:21] <thiemster> HetaUma: it is starting with the right toolbars in openoffice, but it just covers the entire screen
[18:21] <DRebellion> tigran, did you install from source?
[18:21] <lukasz> I hope soon jerkface
[18:21] <DRebellion> !codecs | Aquahallic
[18:21] <ubotu> Aquahallic: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[18:21] <tigran> DRebellion: I didn't have to build anything, just do a make install.
[18:21] <Aquahallic> :)
[18:22] <DRebellion> tigran, bad idea
[18:22] <tigran> DRebellion: Ah.
[18:22] <tigran> DRebellion: Build from source. Ok.
[18:22] <DRebellion> RoboCop, try,  dpkg -L libsqlite3-dev
[18:22] <Aquahallic> FANTASTIC... Thanx DRebellion....;)
[18:22] <thiemster> nemilar: yes, it's freenode
[18:22] <thiemster> nemilar: irc.freenode.net
[18:22] <sarthor>  Hi, I want to block any of image of size "http://ads1.msn.com/ads/1/0000000001_000000000000000163044.jpg", I am using "deny_info" in squid. but the images on the website changing day by day, how can i tell to squid to block the image of this site and put my own banner there???? Help please, i am not much expert in linux
[18:22] <lukasz> What would that be in Eastern
[18:22] <lukasz> 20:30 UTC ?
[18:22] <oscar> alguien tiene una cuenta de rapidshare por aiii
[18:22] <oscar> :)
[18:22] <lukasz> and in 12hr format
[18:22] <nemilar> thiemster: yeah I just checked that out... I always connect through ubuntu.net so... thanks :)
[18:22] <benny99> hi
[18:23] <lukasz> help pls
[18:23] <lukasz> Time in Eastern pls 20:30 UTC 12hr format
[18:23] <RoboCop> DRebellion  i have the same path by that command too. its /usr/include/sqlite3.h
[18:23] <shiwaraya> gnome or kde?
[18:23] <DRebellion> RoboCop, what are you trying to build anyway?
[18:23] <astro76> oscar: /join #ubuntu-es
[18:23] <RoboCop> DRebellion inspircd
[18:23] <oscuro> hey, since the forums are currently down, do I need any particular repo for kde4?
[18:23] <benny99> I formatted an ext2 disk to ext3 by accident :/ -- but I guess the data is still there (the folder is shown) and if my guess is right, ext3 is just ext2 with journaling -- any chances to be able to read that folder?
[18:24] <darknature> How do i set the video RAM on ubuntu. Apparently my intel 945M graphic card is not sending how the right amount of FPS as it was with windows
[18:24] <am^2u> hey
[18:24] <RoboCop> DRebellion why it keeps on saying bash: --sqlite3-includes=usr/include/sqlite3.h: No such file or directory
[18:24] <white_eagle> !java
[18:24] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[18:24] <DRebellion> RoboCop, why don't you install an ircd from the repos?
[18:24] <amenado> benny99-> try and see if you can..
[18:24] <white_eagle> ubotu thanks
[18:24] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[18:24] <am^2u> i am having some problem with my surround sound, can anyone help me ?
[18:24] <tigran> DRebellion: Do you know where I can get the source? I cant find it.
[18:25] <RoboCop> DRebellion it dont have a repo
[18:25] <mcquaid> has anyone tried a program (like entertainer-project, gloss flutter) that sues clutter? for opengl drawing
[18:25] <DRebellion> RoboCop, is there any particular reason why you need inspircd
[18:26] <darknature> How do i set the video RAM on ubuntu. Apparently my intel 945M graphic card is not sending how the right amount of FPS as it was with windows
[18:26] <RoboCop> DRebellion fits my requirements . others dont
[18:26] <s0u][ight> does the gparted live cd support usb mouse?
[18:26] <RoboCop> DRebellion why it keeps on saying bash: --sqlite3-includes=usr/include/sqlite3.h: No such file or directory
[18:26] <DRebellion> RoboCop, you forgot the leading slash. it should be --sqlite3-includes=/usr/include/sqlite3
[18:27] <cirubuntu> astro76:  hi man any news_
[18:27] <DRebellion> RoboCop, you forgot the leading slash. it should be --sqlite3-includes=/usr/include/sqlite3.h
[18:27] <RoboCop> hmm
[18:27] <shiwaraya> s0u][ight: my mouse worked for me in gparted
[18:27] <benny99> amenado: eh, thanks :-[ ?
[18:27] <cirubuntu> astro76:  I-m close to format!
[18:27] <wil> I am trying the android tools from google. It says I need to add the tools folder to my path. do I just add ¨export PATH=${PATH}:~/Desktop/android/tools¨ to my bash.rc because I am getting errors :S
[18:28] <benny99> amenado: I will :)
[18:28] <tigran> DRebellion: I dont think there is a source :S
[18:28] <RoboCop> DRebellion what?
[18:28] <DRebellion> tigran, what are you trying to do anyway?
[18:29] <tigran> DRebellion: Build hamachi from source.
[18:29] <DRebellion> tigran, no, in the grand scheme of things...
[18:29] <cvega> i have a little question regarding ubuntu's support for mobile nvidia cards.
[18:29] <am^2u> can anyone help me with surround sound (5.1)
[18:29] <Longfellow> hey, does anyone know of a tool to mask a pdf as a jpg for ubuntu?
[18:29] <darknature> How do i set the video RAM on ubuntu. Apparently my intel 945M graphic card is not sending how the right amount of FPS as it was with windows
[18:29] <RoboCop> DRebellion what?
[18:30] <DRebellion> RoboCop, what?
[18:30] <RoboCop> slash?
[18:30] <tigran> DRebellion: its for a vpn
[18:30] <RoboCop> DRebellion  slash
[18:30] <erawfish> darknature: dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg
[18:30] <cvega> nvidia doesnt support mobile graphics cards, instead, it tells you to go to your laptop producent for graphics drivers.
[18:30] <DRebellion> tigran, there isn't any source. just an installer.
[18:30] <cvega> are there any os drivers for nvidia?
[18:30] <tigran> DRebellion: Yea. You said that was a bad idea...
[18:30] <erawfish> cvega: this doesn't apply for linux
[18:30] <DRebellion> tigran, and it still is ;)
[18:31] <tigran> DRebellion: Why? :P
[18:31] <erawfish> cvega: you use the normal nvidia drivers
[18:31] <cvega> in other words, nv6800 go should be supported?
[18:31] <erawfish> cvega: yes
[18:31] <Ashnal> anybody here know if its possible to force an SDL game into a window instead of fullscreen?
[18:31] <regis31> which firewall is very very simple tu use with 7.10?
[18:31] <cvega> id hate to be stuck in a vesa resolution with a widescreen
[18:31] <erawfish> nvidia | cvega
[18:31] <erawfish> !nvidia | cvega
[18:31] <ubotu> cvega: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[18:31] <cvega> ah. briliant.
[18:31] <erawfish> regis31: no firewall at all. unneeded
[18:32] <regis31> thank you
[18:32] <cvega> kudos to those who answer noobish questions. :)
[18:32] <DRebellion> tigran, because installing things from third-parties will mess up your system.
[18:32] <StephysLeftHand> someone has to answer them
[18:32] <clearzen> regis31: iptables is the "firewall" that is preconfigured with ubuntu
[18:32] <darknature> stupid question 512MB would be 51200 kb?
[18:32] <erawfish> darknature: no
[18:32] <cvega> i have more exp with debian, but only as a server box somewhere in the closet, now i want something on my laptop
[18:32] <tigran> DRebellion: What can I use for a VPN then for a linux to windows pc?
[18:33] <DRebellion> !vpn | tigran
[18:33] <ubotu> tigran: From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[18:33] <erawfish> tigran: openvpn for example
[18:33] <darknature> so converting from MB to kb what would it be?
[18:33] <cvega> 1024mb = 1048576 kb
[18:33] <zt7724> darknature: 512MB would be 524288kb
[18:33] <Ashnal> 1024KB = 1 MB
[18:33] <tigran> erawfish: support mac too?
[18:33] <darknature> thanks
[18:33] <erawfish> tigran: iirc yes
[18:33] <[MGR]Mikkel> Hi .. I has Litte Problem.. I has FTP server... I can not UPLOAD! How can i get Access??? This error is here :
[18:33] <erawfish> tigran: openvpn.net
[18:33] <Stoffer> since the forums are currenlty down for maintenance, can someone here help me get my maxtor external hard drive to work?  When I try accessing it KDE gives me the following error:  hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[18:33] <DRebellion> tigran, actually , that link isn't what you need
[18:33] <[MGR]Mikkel> Transfer queue completed
[18:33] <[MGR]Mikkel> 1 File failed to transfer
[18:33] <clearzen> google will do calculations like that for you actually
[18:33] <lz7> wrong, 1 megabyte = 1000 kilobytes according to SI
[18:34] <Stoffer> I don't think it's an ntfs problem, since I have an ntfs partion already working
[18:34] <shiwaraya> ubuntu forums closed?
[18:34] <cvega> seems like it
[18:34] <[MGR]Mikkel> How can i get Access to FTP Server on Server edition Ubuntu????
[18:34] <erawfish> [MGR]Mikkel: the server behind NAT? and your client too?
[18:34] <tigran> DRebellion: k, erawfish ill check that out
[18:34] <astro76> lz7: that's great, but in computers it usually means 1024
[18:34] <astro76> lz7: hard drive manufacturers like the 1000 definition
[18:34] <Ashnal> lz7: and thats why 18 GB are missing from my 400 GB HDD
[18:34] <[MGR]Mikkel> erawfish: I running proftpd! and my client is FlashFXP
[18:34] <DRebellion> shiwaraya, several people have reported it as down
[18:34] <erawfish> [MGR]Mikkel: that's not what I asked
[18:35] <[MGR]Mikkel> doh
[18:35] <pdxkid> kernel update blew out my grub config (menu list).  I've got a bookmark on how to fix it but the forums are down.  What is the command to update grub to see my 2nd OS on my 2nd HDD? I thought there was an update command...
[18:35] <wil> I think I have got path working.... if I am in a completly diffent folder such as / and I type the name of a program in a diffrent folder... and it launches, does that mean path is working?
[18:35] <[MGR]Mikkel> I has download PRoftpd! i know dont no How i get Access to Upload the FTP Server ...
[18:35] <Ashnal> so anyone here know how to force a fullscreen app into a window?
[18:35] <erawfish> !grub | pdxkid
[18:35] <ubotu> pdxkid: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[18:35] <fijam> sorry, are we affected by http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9924 ?
[18:36] <naderman> erawfish: haha, I think I know what my mistake earlier was, I ran update grub but forgot to manually change (hd0,0) to (hd0,1) afterwards
[18:36] <cvega> where can i find a list of reasonably fresh apt sources?
[18:36] <astro76> !dk | [MGR]Mikkel
[18:36] <ubotu> [MGR]Mikkel: For at få support til Ubuntu på Dansk bedes du venligst gå til #ubuntu-dk. I denne kanal tales kun Engelsk.
[18:36] <DRebellion> fijam, :/ any news of a fix?
[18:36] <Stoffer> is KDE's adept installer the same as the Synaptic Package Manager?
[18:36] <fijam> DRebellion, it appears to be included in git20
[18:36] <pdxkid> thanks erawfish
[18:36] <astro76> Stoffer: yes it serves the same function
[18:36] <[MGR]Mikkel> astro76 where u from?
[18:37] <fijam> DRebellion,  I just wonder how much time will it take to get it rolled out in ubuntu
[18:37] <arnducky> the trackpad in my Gutsy laptop simply has stopped working can anyone help?
[18:37] <erawfish> cvega: your ubuntu comes with a sources.list already. there is nothing else you need
[18:37] <bofh80> hi people, would anyone like to help me turn off my SWAP so i can test a memory problem i'm having with wine, i have 2gig of memory, ubuntu 7.10. cheers :) forums are down :(
[18:37] <clearzen> Stoffer: it's a little different but the same idea
[18:37] <erawfish> bofh80: man swapoff
[18:37] <Stoffer> Does KDE usually use up more RAM than Gnome?
[18:37] <pdxkid> FYI: update-grub was what I was looking for...
[18:37] <guardian> hi
[18:37] <bofh80> erawfish, cool. :)
[18:38] <erawfish> Stoffer: no
[18:38] <astro76> [MGR]Mikkel: someone asked a specific question to help which you didn't seem to comprehend, I thought perhaps help in your native language would help
[18:38] <clearzen> Stoffer: Don't know. Don't use it
[18:38] <guardian> i installed ubuntu 7.10 , now what do i need to have compiz themes
[18:38] <guardian> please
[18:38] <witepa> How do I figure out what type of chipset my wireless card has?
[18:38] <cvega> anyone running eve online on ubuntu succesfully?; ]
[18:38] <erawfish> guardian: what videocard?
[18:38] <DRebellion> guardian, you want the cube and eyecandy effects?
[18:38] <guardian> nvidia 6600gt
[18:38] <Harm> guardian: i would suggest using the wiki
[18:38] <erawfish> witepa: lspci usually
[18:38] <guardian> i want themes
[18:38] <erawfish> !nvidia | guardian
[18:38] <ubotu> guardian: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[18:38] <clearzen> witepa lspci
[18:38] <guardian> i have emerald themes manager
[18:38] <erawfish> !compiz
[18:38] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[18:38] <DRebellion> !themes | guardian
[18:38] <ubotu> guardian: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[18:38] <guardian> but it doesn't seem to fetch any theme
[18:38] <Ashnal> so anyone know how to force a fullscreen app into a window?
[18:39] <erawfish> !repeat | Ashnal
[18:39] <ubotu> Ashnal: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[18:39] <brandonD> !compiz
[18:39] <clearzen> witepa: more than likely it will tell you there. If not, what brand/model is it?
[18:39] <ubuntu> hello can somebody say me what must i do with this error http://rafb.net/p/XHh1Ry98.html
[18:39] <witepa> clearzen: I have a usb wireless card... does that make it any different?
[18:39] <clearzen> witepa: use lsusb then
[18:39] <zt7724> witepa: then lsusb
[18:39] <bofh80> erawfish, so it's safe to just type swapoff -a . and the system won't crash or nothing :D
[18:39] <erawfish> witepa: lsusb. and yes it does
[18:39] <witepa> clearzen: it is a wusb54gc
[18:39] <guardian> yeah well i know the urls for artwork, still i lost track with compiz merging with beryl etc - now i just don't know what to use for themes
[18:39] <ubuntu> this error comes when i will start my ubuntu gutsyt system
[18:39] <guardian> should i use metacity themes ?
[18:39] <zt7724> witepa: wusb54gc is not the chipset
[18:39] <eth01> joshin, who the hell are you.
[18:39] <bofh80> here goes....lol
[18:40] <astro76> ubuntu: you don't appear to be running ubuntu
[18:40] <camden_> does anyone have any idea how to get started in getting ubuntu into a local public school system
[18:40] <witepa> zt7724: i know, that is the model
[18:40] <camden_> the system has a reputation for being quite inept
[18:40] <Harm> camden_: live cds?
[18:40] <camden_> i mean... getting them to use it instead of windows, to save money
[18:40] <hanasaki> why would dig hanaden.com and dig hanaden.com ns give different name servers and diff authority sections?
[18:41] <clearzen> wusb54gc
[18:41] <brandonD> !compiz
[18:41] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[18:41] <Harm> camden_: you dont save money by switching to linux
[18:41] <camden_> i don't know where to start
[18:41] <camden_> really?
[18:41] <erawfish> ubuntulog: what nvidia card exactly and what does dpkg -l |grep nvidia say?
[18:41] <camden_> i think they may be spending lots of $$$ buying unnecessary hardware and software
[18:41] <clearzen> witepa: it looks like you will need either the rt2500 or ndiswrapper for that card
[18:41] <naderman> erawfish: now the problem's something else, when I boot (which appears to work) I get the same old APIC errors I had before :(
[18:41] <camden_> harm: please explain: dont save money
[18:41] <Harm> camden_: windows OEM costs next to nothing.. and service contracts etc etc.. just installing linux on a bunch of computers wont just give you a 200$ check back
[18:42] <witepa> chearzen: alright, thanks. I will try the 2500
[18:42] <bofh80> erawfish, ok, is that switch permanent? i think i need to reboot, as system monitor reports 0 swap space, but things are still using Virtual Memory
[18:42] <naderman> though it's difficult to see them, as the system reboots after them
[18:42] <camden_> harm: i think they may be buying extra hardware to support vista
[18:42] <erawfish> bofh80: what is the output of "free". and no it'S not permanent
[18:42] <erawfish> bofh80: when there is no swap there is no virtual memory...
[18:42] <lukasz> It doesn't freeze no more :)
[18:43] <lukasz> The quit logout
[18:43] <erawfish> camden_: what software do they use? unlikely the software they use exists for linux
[18:43] <cvega> recommended GUI  ?
[18:43] <Ballena> Should I use ascii or binary mode when transfering a .htaccess-file with FTP?
[18:43] <cvega> gnome is... smaller?
[18:43] <Pici> Ballena: ascii
[18:43] <DRebellion> Ballena, doesn't matter
[18:43] <Harm> camden_: look either your school buys barebone PCs without contacts.. total cast (fictional)1000 or with windows and service contracts etc (finctional) 2000... you saved 1000 but you need to pay for someone to install linux and when something goes wrong (and it probally will) you need a good sys admin which costs loads
[18:43] <Ballena> Pici: ok
[18:43] <camden_> erawfish: i think they teach students how to use word, excel, etc
[18:43] <bofh80> erawfish, free says SWAP 0 0 0 0 sorta thing, but on the Virtual Memory column of system monitor, when i close and open say notepad.exe it still seems to allocate itself 2.6gig of VM :(
[18:43] <Harm> camden_: its just not that simple as you might think
[18:44] <Stoffer> I currently have my monitor refersh rate set at 60Hz.  what difference would setting it to 75 make?
[18:44] <cvega> if LCD, none...
[18:44] <Harm> Stoffer: burning eyes :P
[18:44] <erawfish> camden_: so you don't have a clue but want them to buy what YOU think is best? just stop. you do a lot more harm than good
[18:44] <clearzen> Harm: hiring a mediocore admin will cost you $$ other ways than hourly income
[18:44] <witepa> clearzen: hmm, which one should i download? http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Downloads
[18:44] <cvega> if crt, the hair on top of your head wont raise that much
[18:44] <am^2u> how do i check for installed soundcards ?
[18:44] <bofh80> erawfish, how do i make it permanent i will reboot it with no swap i guess. ?
[18:44] <camden_> harm: well some schools have done it and claimed they saved lots
[18:44] <erawfish> bofh80: I want your free output. not your wrong interpretation of cluelessness
[18:44] <bofh80> ok i pastebin it
[18:44] <erawfish> bofh80: remove it from fstab
[18:44] <camden_> erawfish: so you think windows is "best"?
[18:45] <erawfish> camden_: you think you are ignorant what they need and have no clue
[18:45] <Harm> camden_: yah they are short sighted.. though iam sure a total linux solution could save you 20%? not sure.. call distro's which offer service contracts
[18:45] <clearzen> witepa: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Funiverse%2Fr%2Frt2500%2Frt2500_1.1.0%2Bcvs20051217-1_i386.deb&md5sum=0d1bd9881c01935940fb142baa88fdef&arch=i386&type=main
[18:45] <mefisto__> camden_: contact those other schools and find out how they made the desision
[18:45] <erawfish> *I think...
[18:45] <cvega> how do i get damn joins/parts off my screen (irssi)
[18:45] <AcaroJR> So so payaso
[18:45] <Longfellow> anyone here use outguess?
[18:45] <DRebellion> cvega, maybe ask in #irssi ?
[18:45] <witepa> clearzen: it says that that is PCI though, the card I have runs through usb
[18:45] <AcaroJR> Hijo de puta
[18:45] <Pici> !quietirssi | cvega
[18:45] <ubotu> cvega: To ignore joins, parts, quits in irssi:  /ignore #ubuntu +JOINS +PARTS +QUITS
[18:46] <bofh80> erawfish, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55502/    <free output. i shall comment out my fstab line for the swap then too :)
[18:46] <AcaroJR> ME VAIS A COMER LA POLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
[18:46] <AcaroJR> ME VAIS A COMER LA POLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
[18:46] <AcaroJR> ME VAIS A COMER LA POLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
[18:46] <AcaroJR> ME VAIS A COMER LA POLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
[18:46] <AcaroJR> ME VAIS A COMER LA POLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
[18:46] <AcaroJR> ME VAIS A COMER LA POLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
[18:46] <FloodBot2> AcaroJR: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:46] <ikonia> !ops | AcaroJR
[18:46] <Cpudan80> Ouch
[18:46] <erawfish> cvega: /help ignore
[18:46] <ubotu> AcaroJR: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[18:46] <Pici> PriceChild: klined
[18:47] <naderman> huh, google doesn't cache ubuntu forums? :(
[18:47] <cvega> ubotu: thank u.
[18:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thank u. - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:47] <Longfellow> anyone know a good Steganography program?
[18:47] <ffm> cvega: its a bot, it's not intellegent.
[18:47] <cvega> ah lol. /me hides in shame
[18:47] <bofh80> erawfish, that output does not match my system monitor
[18:47] <clearzen> witepa: that was a gui tool for the rt2500 cards btw
[18:48] <erawfish> bofh80: what software is this "monitor"?
[18:48] <Siph0n> hey... if someone has access to my computer, and i have ubuntu save some of my website passwords, is there anyway the person can get access to my login and passwords?
[18:48] <guardian> so, is it still with emerald that i enable themes for compiz ???
[18:48] <Nirevus> Anybody here good with the kernel, I'm wondering how safe it is to disable SLUB debugging?
[18:48] <bofh80> erawfish, the gnome system monitor
[18:48] <erawfish> free displays data from the kernel. and the kernel knows how much virtual memory you have
[18:48] <Harm> Siph0n: not really unless they login into your account
[18:48] <erawfish> in fact it's the only place which knows anything
[18:48] <bofh80> erawfish, according to that output i have no memory free of my 2gig?!
[18:48] <sharperguy> nigga
[18:48] <zombie_monkey> So does anyone know what handles substitution of glyphs with those from other fonts when the default one doesn't have the glyph?
[18:48] <erawfish> bofh80: free memory is wasted memory
[18:49] <witepa> clearzen: do I have a rt2500 capable card though? It says that it is for PCI cards, I have a USB one
[18:49] <lauren> i installed kde4 on ubuntu, but kde is running really slowly... anyone have any ideas?
[18:49] <erawfish> !kde4
[18:49] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[18:49] <jpatrick> !kde4 > lauren
[18:49] <Harm> lauren: stick with kde 3.5?
[18:49] <clearzen> witepa: yeah, it's the same chipset.
[18:49] <Siph0n> Harm, login to my computer account? or the web page account?
[18:49] <erawfish> lauren: kde4 is NOT for enduers
[18:49] <cvega> defragging before using gparted good idea?
[18:49] <clearzen> witepa: it's actually one of 2 chipsets with that model so you may have to use ndiswrapper
[18:49] <Harm> Siph0n: well if someone logged into your linux account they would load all the settings and saved passwords that are inside of it
[18:49] <erawfish> cvega: nrfs: yes
[18:50] <cvega> ntfs.
[18:50] <clearzen> witepa: but I always try other options before that
[18:50] <cvega> k.
[18:50] <protcront> hello
[18:50] <witepa> clearzen: Yeah, same
[18:50] <lauren> so kde4 will not run on ubuntu? i thought you could switch desktop managers
[18:50] <protcront> i want to register my nickname so that i can login to java channels
[18:50] <Seveas> !register > protcront
[18:50] <Harm> lauren: yes you can
[18:50] <SJrX> When purchasing a notebook, is Linux Compatibility an issues any more?
[18:50] <MasterShrek> lauren, it will run on ubuntu, but its not quite ready for the mainstream imho
[18:50] <lauren> well, i know this much, since i'm using it now
[18:51] <am^2u> what do i do when i get this error : aplay: device_list:207: no soundcards found...
[18:51] <SJrX> yeah KDE4 was just a little early
[18:51] <cirubuntu> how reinstall wireless card__
[18:51] <whiter> does gedit from 7.10 have syntax highlighting?
[18:51] <nickrud> whiter: yes it does
[18:51] <Cpudan80> whiter: Yep
[18:51] <MasterShrek> SJrX, mostly not, usually you want to buy one with an nvidia gfx card, and sometimes wireless is a small issue, but usually with a little tweaking and general know-how you can get it working
[18:51] <Cpudan80> Damn nickrud beat me again
[18:51] <whiter> would i have to turn it on or is it on by default because i cant find any options for it
[18:51] <nickrud> SJrX: here I hear about newer wireless and built in webcams
[18:51] <bofh80> erawfish, another FREE output, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55503/    . i have only xchat and a terminal running, surely it should report more free memory than that?!?!?!
[18:51] <SJrX> okay
[18:51] <Nirevus> Anybody here good with the kernel, I'm wondering how safe it is to disable SLUB debugging?
[18:52] <Cpudan80> whiter: It's on by default, it detects the file extension
[18:52] <protcront> i m registered but why i cannot login to java channel
[18:52] <SJrX> probably no built in webcams, but wireless is something to look out for
[18:52] <RoxanneEDM> hello everybody, i was wondering if someone could help me getting the sound to work on my PC
[18:52] <erawfish> bofh80: if you ever have a lot of free memory, your linux is broken
[18:52] <whiter> oh alright, thank you very much
[18:52] <cirubuntu> how reinstall wireless card__??
[18:52] <cvega> where do I find a hardware compatibility list for ubuntu?
[18:52] <erawfish> bofh80: again: free memory is WASTED memory
[18:52] <erawfish> !hcl
[18:52] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[18:52] <erawfish> !wireless | cirubuntu
[18:52] <ubotu> cirubuntu: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[18:52] <askand> I need help with incscape, it comes black boxes instead of text in SVG:s
[18:52] <nickrud> protcront: you should probably ask about that on #freenode
[18:52] <cvega> jeez. you're like a machine :)
[18:53] <housetier> I am trying to dist-upgrad to gutsy with "update-manager -c". it ran for a while, but I got lots of errors about libxml2 and gzopen64. now I can't run update-manager. apt-get -f install also is not successful. the error-messages is http://paste.husk.org/10874
[18:53] <RoxanneEDM> is anyone willing to help me with my sound issues?
[18:53] <witepa> clearzen: I actually have amd64, not i386...
[18:53] <erawfish> !ask
[18:53] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[18:53] <lauren> ok so, let me rephrase my question.... if i had been running gnome and then installed on the same machine kde4, and kde4 is running slowly, is there something i have to do with xserver or something so it will only run one at a time? i'm not sure whats going on, but i'm pretty sure it shouldnt be running this slowly
[18:53] <bofh80> erawfish, ok. guess i'll man free :)  - i'm going to comment out my swap and reboot. i don't need to do anything else? (ie the system aint gonna die on reboot if i do that)
[18:53] <Longfellow> does anyone know how to mask a pdf into a jpg?
[18:53] <erawfish> witepa: do you have 32bit or 64bit ubuntu
[18:53] <clearzen> witepa: are you running the 64bit version of ubuntu?
[18:54] <kostkon> RoxanneEDM, what is your problem with sound?
[18:54] <fijam> Nirevus, you could go for it, I guess
[18:54] <erawfish> bofh80: if your ubuntu ever runs out of memory it simply kills random processes
[18:54] <bofh80> erawfish, cool.
[18:54] <erawfish> with 2GB this happens pracically never
[18:54] <nickrud> lauren: when you log back into gnome, does it run normally?
[18:54] <RoxanneEDM> kostkon: im not sure whats wrong, my sound USED to work , now it is not(not sure exactly when it stopped working)
[18:54] <cvega> can I run ubuntu with no swap? I have 2gb ram aswell.
[18:54] <lauren> nickrud, yea
[18:54] <witepa> clearzen and erawfish: the 64bit version
[18:54] <bofh80> erawfish, thanks very much for your time, a great help :)
[18:54] <clearzen> try this then http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=amd64&file=pool%2Funiverse%2Fr%2Frt2500%2Frt2500_1.1.0%2Bcvs20051217-1_amd64.deb&md5sum=164b86156d3897c6afe13294753d9bdc&arch=amd64&type=main
[18:55] <erawfish> cvega: you can but usually it doesn't matter. disabling swap has no benefit except saving a few MB on disk which you probably have plenty
[18:55] <erawfish> cvega: and you cannot hibernate anymor
[18:55] <cvega> actually its a laptop, hd is not that big ;)
[18:55] <kostkon> RoxanneEDM, ok. First of all, have you checked the sound volumes?
[18:55] <nickrud> lauren: then most likely it's something with kde4. gnome doesn't run when you log into kde4  (ps -A in a a terminal tells you what's running) and I hear kde4 is not yet ready for prime time
[18:55] <RoxanneEDM> kostkon:  yeah i did, nothing worked
[18:55] <witepa> clearzen: thanks
[18:55] <erawfish> cvega: then disabling swap is bad: no more supsend to ram or suspend to disk
[18:56] <RoxanneEDM> kostkon: i have EVERYTHING unmuted and turned up
[18:56] <cvega> mm... ok. i was told here 20gb should be plenty to play with ubuntu
[18:56] <erawfish> cvega: it is
[18:56] <Harm> cvega: it is
[18:56] <Nirevus> fijam, I only wasn't sure as it said it will "disable SLUB sysfs support". wasn't sure how important this was
[18:56] <kostkon> RoxanneEDM, do you get any error message, for example in Totem, or just you don't hear anything while something is playing
[18:56] <cvega> ok. cool.
[18:56] <Stoffer> hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000  <--- that's what I get when I try mounting my maxtor external hard drive.  I already installed ntfs-config and set it to allow writing to external ntfs drives.  Do I need to restart my machine to get that working?
[18:56] <nickrud> cvega: it is , but swap is assumed to be available to the kernel, works best with
[18:57] <RoxanneEDM> kost, no it just plays regularly, but no sound, really to me it seems like something is muted, but im sure its not
[18:57] <naderman> erawfish: wow it boots now, got a console, thanks a lot, reinstalling did the job ;-)
[18:57] <fijam> Nirevus, and how do you exactly intend to disable the debugging?
[18:57] <Harm> cvega: look just try the liveCD.. enjoy ubuntu? clear some space + defrag your harddisk and install ubuntu
[18:57] <cvega> i did, and livecd ran horribly for some unknown reason
[18:57] <Harm> cvega: slow?
[18:57] <cvega> i have alternate iso burned
[18:58] <cvega> and will use that for install
[18:58] <nickrud> cvega: define horribly :)
[18:58] <cvega> as in running windows 2000 on a 1995 computer horribly
[18:58] <protcront> how to register the nickname ?
[18:58] <lauren> i do have some gnome processes running....
[18:58] <lauren> lauren@lauren-desktop:~$ ps -A | grep "gnome"
[18:58] <lauren> 17928 ?        00:00:00 gnome-keyring-d
[18:58] <lauren> 22143 ?        00:00:00 gnome-terminal
[18:58] <lauren> 22151 ?        00:00:00 gnome-pty-helpe
[18:58] <FloodBot2> lauren: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:58] <Pici> !register | protcront
[18:58] <jgmcmaster> when i try to install wine from "add remove applications" i get an error saying "the application conflicts with another installed application to install wine you must remove conflicting software first" what does that mean and how do i resolve that?
[18:58] <ubotu> protcront: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[18:58] <kostkon> RoxanneEDM, ok. to have a more thorough control over your volume levels, then open a terminal and give: "alsamixer". The app will give you more volume levels to play. Just put most of them up. An important volume level for example is "PCM".
[18:59] <nickrud> !register | protcront (and if it doesn't work to get you into ##java , ask for help on #freenode. The irc ops help there)
[18:59] <RoxanneEDM> kostkon:  i will try it
[18:59] <ubotu> protcront (and if it doesn't work to get you into ##java , ask for help on #freenode. The irc ops help there): By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[18:59] <cvega> i will proceed to gparted in a second to make some space, and install ubuntu using alternate cd. should work.
[18:59] <Nirevus> fijam, I'm recompiling the kernel currently
[18:59] <cormofied> hello how should i register with a password
[19:00] <marx2k> !nvidia
[19:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[19:00] <DRebellion> !register > cormofied (read the pm from ubotu)
[19:00] <Pici> !register | cormofied
[19:00] <cvega> msg nickserv identify password
[19:00] <ubotu> cormofied: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[19:00] <nickrud> jgmcmaster:   type   sudo apt-get install wine   in a terminal, and put the full output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[19:00] <cvega> fail. register instead of identify
[19:01] <monkeyBox> How do I show what files were installed by a package (from cli?)
[19:01] <fijam> Nirveus, I *think* there's a switch to disable slub debugging on a slub-debugging-enabled kernel, but I am not certain. You could try that first.
[19:02] <witepa> clearzen: I keep getting dependencies though... it is quite difficult to do without apt get
[19:02] <Pici> monkeyBox: dpkg -L packagename
[19:02] <nickrud> monkeyBox:   dpkg -L <packagename>
[19:02] <clearzen> witepa: try sudo aptitude install rt2500
[19:03] <Ballena> How do I list files locally in FTP? lls don't work
[19:04] <RoxanneEDM> kostkon: thank you ... i sure like that alsamixer, and in there i figured out my problem, Ubuntu was using my onboard audio, i was plugged into my PCI soundcard,instead of screwing with it , i just plugged into onboard
[19:04] <Cpudan80> Ballena: ldir maybe?
[19:04] <witepa> clearzen: I am not connected to the internet on that computer though
[19:05] <nickrud> RoxanneEDM: you can disable the onboard in bios, usually works
[19:05] <jgmcmaster> what should i do after posting full syntax at  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org\
[19:05] <Ballena> Cpudan80: nope, that dones not work
[19:05] <kostkon> RoxanneEDM, oh, ok! everything OK now?!
[19:05] <marx2k> Hm I was chugging happily along and then my screen got scrambled and I couldnt get into a TTY... the machine was still working. I hit ctrl-alt-del and tried ot get back into Ubuntu but now it says it cannot initiate my NVIDIA device. This is bad.
[19:05] <witepa> clearzen: i'm going to try hard  wire it with a really long cord
[19:05] <mjw-> jgmcmaster copy and paste the link to it to the channel
[19:05] <fijam> Nirevus, try booting with "slub_debug=-" but I think this might have been added in some more recent kernels
[19:05] <cvega> marx2k: any burning smell in the room?
[19:05] <nickrud> jgmcmaster: paste the link here so I can see it :)
[19:05] <clearzen> witepa: oh, well. Lets just download the source for the module and then we can build it
[19:05] <marx2k> cvega: thinking I burned out my vidcard? Its an onboard
[19:05] <mikebot> In Synaptic, what's the difference between removal and complete removal?
[19:06] <RoxanneEDM> kostkon: yeaheverything is good
[19:06] <jgmcmaster> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55505/
[19:06] <cvega> marx2k: usually weird things like that mean overheating of some sort...
[19:06] <nickrud> mikebot: complete removal removes config files in /etc , remove doesn't
[19:06] <marx2k> cvega: strangely enough I am able to boot into Ubuntu from an install CD...
[19:06] <cvega> in graphics mode?
[19:06] <mikebot> nickrud: So would you recommend complete removal?
[19:06] <marx2k> yes
[19:07] <uKKeMan> hi, anybody can tell me a ubuntu programm CAD like? i need a programm designing a room.. in the first place i want it for making a seating plan
[19:07] <mikebot> nickrud: For applications I know I'm not going to use again.
[19:07] <cvega> hm, but without nvidia drivers i presume
[19:07] <marx2k> cvega: Im pretty sure it's vesa
[19:07] <nickrud> mikebot: yes
[19:07] <marx2k> let me ceck
[19:07] <mikebot> nickrud: OK, thanks.
[19:07] <nickrud> !gustysources | jgmcmaster
[19:07] <mikebot> Bye.
[19:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gustysources - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:07] <iocaste> uKKeman: Blender 3d? It might be a little overkill for what you need though
[19:07] <marx2k> yes, vesa
[19:07] <nickrud> arg, jgmcmaster you need to update your sources, a sec
[19:07] <cvega> huh
[19:08] <uKKeMan> maybe
[19:08] <cvega> another question : does it pay to partition /home /var /usr separately on a home-use laptop machine?
[19:08] <nickrud> !gutsysources | jgmcmaster
[19:08] <ubotu> jgmcmaster: gutsysources is in System->Admin->Software Sources, enable (main) (universe) (restricted) and (multiverse) and disable the Cdrom on the Ubuntu Software tab. On the Updates tab, enable (gutsy-security) and (gutsy-updates).
[19:08] <uKKeMan> but for university i need a CAD tool to so maybe its a good point to start. at first a easy exercise, and at the end some harder ones
[19:08] <marx2k> cvega: well it certainly pays to partition /home seperately
[19:09] <witepa> clearzen: alright, where can we get the source?
[19:09] <mynyml> i can't seem to get the position working for gnome-terminal --geometry. i have --geometry "155x21+0+30"; AxB works fine, but +C+D isnt recognized. any tips?
[19:09] <nickrud> jgmcmaster: after you do that, try installing wine again
[19:09] <clearzen> cvega: I like /home on a seperate disk in case the drive with the system fails or has to be restored
[19:09] <jgmcmaster> okay thank you
[19:09] <Xman>  can anyone tell ,e how can i retrieve the videos lying in the cache
[19:10] <clearzen> witepa: wget http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/rt2500-cvs-daily.tar.gz
[19:10] <cvega> true.
[19:10] <Boglizk> Xman: Checked /temp/ ?
[19:10] <cvega> well, off to gparted. be back soon.
[19:10] <Xman> Boglizk: in windows
[19:10] <Xman> ?
[19:10] <Boglizk> Xman: This is #ubuntu ? :p
[19:10] <Pici> !windows | Xman
[19:10] <ubotu> Xman: For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[19:11] <nickrud> mynyml: try  --geometry=155x21+0+30 (no quotes)
[19:11] <mynyml> nickrud: same thing
[19:11] <Xman> Pici: no one is responding there, that is why i asked it here
[19:11] <marx2k> arghhhh why has my X server died
[19:12] <omegaweopon> How do I disable the automatic http cache cleaner?   It keeps erasing my flash game saves
[19:12] <MasterShrek> Xman, this is ubuntu support not windows
[19:12] <nickrud> mynyml: that works perfectly here,  gnome-terminal --geometry=155x21+0+30
[19:12] <mynyml> nickrud: i have compiz-fusion/emerald enabled, maybe that has something to do with it..
[19:12] <witepa> clearzen: alright, I got the source
[19:13] <nickrud> mynyml: compiz here as well . did +0+100 as well to make sure it was registering
[19:13] <marx2k> hah.... copying the xorg.conf from my Ubuntu install CD to my install actually worked... but still I am stuck with VESA drivers now
[19:13] <mynyml> nickrud: oh .... wait up
[19:13] <Stoffer> how can I get a list of devices that are connected but not mounted?
[19:13] <marx2k> Stoffer: good question
[19:13] <mynyml> +0+1000 actually works
[19:13] <clearzen> witepa: now tar -xzf rt2500-cvs-daily.tar.gz
[19:13] <mynyml> nickrud: ^^
[19:14] <MasterShrek> Stoffer, sudo fdisk -l    will give you all partition, mounted or not
[19:14] <nickrud> mynyml: saw that. Maybe your res is so darned good it didn't look like it moved :)
[19:14] <witepa> clearzen: yup, did that
[19:14] <mynyml> nickrud: thanks for the tip, helped
[19:14] <Stoffer> basically I'm trying to manually mount my usb hard drive, but i need to know which /dev it is
[19:14] <MasterShrek> Stoffer, mount    will give you mounted ones, so u can figure it out from there
[19:14] <clearzen> the cd ./rt2500-cvs-*/Module
[19:14] <iocaste> Stoffer: mines sdb1, if that helps
[19:14] <chicony> hi
[19:14] <nickrud> Stoffer:   sudo fdisk -  will list all partitions (including external if plugged in and identified)
[19:14] <clearzen> witepa: then make
[19:15] <nickrud> Stoffer: argh,  sudo fdisk -l  that is
[19:15] <mynyml> nickrud: haha .. i wish. only 1280x800 .....
[19:15] <witepa> clearzen: alright, now what
[19:16] <clearzen> witepa: sudo insmod rt2500.ko
[19:16] <Nirevus> fijam, also when compiling the kernel, I'm not sure which processor to pick. Although I'm using an Athlon64, I use 32 bit Ubuntu. Should I stick with just Athlon, or should it be set to Athlon 64?
[19:16] <clearzen> witepa: then the interface should be listed under iwconfig
[19:17] <Mr_> Hey... I'm having some trouble installing 7.10 with file system encryption. Are there known problems with that?
[19:17] <Mr_> The system seems to freeze. Or atleast the screen gets garbled and stays that way for a long time.
[19:17] <posr> Should my computer start if my video card is broken?
[19:17] <witepa> clearzen: yup, it is listed under rausb0, and it recognizes the essid. It still says RT73 tough
[19:17] <Magus_X> yes and now
[19:17] <witepa> though*
[19:17] <strator> just wondering if someone can help... my internet is always super slow on linex, i've tried different browsers but that still doesn't work.. so any ideas?
[19:17] <clearzen> witepa: that's ok
[19:17] <Magus_X> If it is just a bit damaged
[19:17] <Donky> Can any one help me install the VMware toolkit on GOS
[19:17] <Magus_X> for games it will not work fine
[19:18] <Magus_X> but for windows should work
[19:18] <witepa> clearzen: alright, now what?
[19:18] <Donky> I seem to be hopelessly stuck
[19:18] <Harm> Donky: this isnt GOS support
[19:18] <clearzen> witepa: try iwlist rausb0 --scan
[19:18] <posr> Magus_X computer is working but when i install drivers he don't display desktop. should i go no garanty service?
[19:18] <Donky> well its all Umbuntu and I get the same errors in Umbuntu
[19:18] <lukasz> Evrything is fine now :)
[19:18] <posr> to
[19:18] <Nirevus> Can anyone help with a kernel compiling question? I'm not sure which processor type to pick. Although I'm using an Athlon64, I use 32 bit Ubuntu. Should I stick with just Athlon, or should it be set to Athlon 64?
[19:18] <fijam> Nirevus, if I were you I'd stick with the distribution-provided generic kernel. Building your own 1. breaks some kernel modules (vide: truecrypt, restricted modules) 2. makes you responsible for security kernel updates (vide: today's local root exploit)
[19:19] <lukasz> I got Compiz Aiglx Ati
[19:19] <Donky> do you know where I can find GOS support?
[19:19] <chubs730_> just ask in here
[19:19] <DRebellion> strator, perhaps it is an IPv6 DNS issue. try,  dig AAAA www.google.com and see if it times out.
[19:19] <Harm> Donky: perhaps #gos.. otherwise google?
[19:19] <chubs730_> donky just ask your question and maybe someone will know
[19:20] <nickrud> Donky: http://www.faqly.com/faq/view/id/34
[19:20] <fijam> Nirevus, but if you really really want to, you can find guides aplenty on how to build a kernel for your machine
[19:20] <lukasz> Thank you for your help on forums :)
[19:20] <nickrud> chubs730_: this isn't gos support ;P
[19:20] <witepa> clearzen: I put in iwlish rausb0 scan, and it said "Interface doesn't support scanning."
[19:20] <chubs730_> nickrud: it's based on ubuntu, so the issues are probably ver similar
[19:20] <witepa> clearzen: iwlist**
[19:20] <lukasz> typ in /join #gos
[19:20] <lukasz> !gos
[19:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gos - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:20] <Nirevus> fijam, I've built several kernels before, though most were fairly generic; this is my first step into a more customised one so I'm testing it out on my development box; I'm just not sure which setting would be best
[19:21] <lukasz> I forgot the command heh
[19:21] <lukasz> Well I see you guys soon
[19:21] <nickrud> chubs730_: with enlightenment, but anyway derivatives don't get support here, too much variability
[19:21] <Donky> The installer is looking for "running kernel source" C headers
[19:21] <strator> it does get there eventually just takes really long to load a simple page (1 minute)
[19:21] <clearzen> witepa: well it doesn't support passive mode but that's ok
[19:21] <fijam> Nirevus, sorry, I am not into 64bit stuff, your best bet would be to search the web
[19:21] <clearzen> witepa: try to ping google
[19:22] <Flare183> !who | strator
[19:22] <ubotu> strator: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[19:22] <clearzen> witepa: ping -c5 google.com
[19:22] <nickrud> Donky:   sudo apt-get install install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[19:22] <Mr_> Does anyone have experience with disk encryption in the 7.10 installer?
[19:22] <nickrud> Donky: erm, only one install word on that line
[19:22] <camden_> anybody built moonlight?
[19:23] <strator> DRebellion : it does get there eventually just takes really long to load a simple page (1 minute)
[19:23] <Guest56502> somebody help me with ubuntu install pls :)
[19:23] <DRebellion> strator, well, run: dig AAAA www.google.com  and see if it times out.
[19:23] <Flare183> !anybody | Guest56502
[19:23] <ubotu> Guest56502: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[19:24] <Guest56502> its kinda long
[19:24] <self_up> hello, I've got lots of trash, but can't empty trash, with error 'too many open files' what gives?
[19:24] <clearzen> witepa: you may want to add a line to /etc/modules that says rt2500
[19:24] <Guest56502> I cannot run the live disk
[19:24] <Flare183> !traffic
[19:24] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[19:24] <chubs730_> guest56502: type it all on one line then
[19:24] <Guest56502> it makes some kind ot error when come to Xorg
[19:24] <Mr_> The system seems to freeze when I choose encryption in the 7.10 istallet. Or atleast the screen gets garbled and stays that way for a long time. What is wrong?
[19:24] <Guest56502> i have 3870 ati
[19:24] <nickrud> self_up:   cd ~/.Trash , rm -r *
[19:25] <Guest56502> and ubuntu dont want to run
[19:25] <witepa> clearzen: Wow, It is workign now!
[19:25] <Guest56502> the live disk
[19:25] <Guest56502> so i ann'c install it
[19:25] <Flare183> !enter > Guest56502
[19:25] <clearzen> witepa: tada!!
[19:25] <strator> DRebellion, can i pvt you quick?
[19:25] <Stoffer> instead of attempting to fix the ntfs-3g mounting issue w/ my external hard drive, would it be easier to just reformat it as Fat32?  There wouldn't be any drawbacks right?
[19:25] <chubs730_> !enter | guest56502
[19:25] <ubotu> guest56502: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[19:25] <hypercube> i have a problem
[19:25] <hypercube> with GPRS EASY CONNECT
[19:26] <witepa> clearzen: Thank you very much!
[19:26] <Donky> seemed to work at first but then "E: couldn't find package Linux-headers-2.6.22.-14-generic
[19:26] <hypercube> it restart the Xserver
[19:26] <teo_> how can i install php with gd library ???
[19:26] <clearzen> witepa: np
[19:26] <Guest56502> can someone give me the terminal commands for installing ubuntu without useing ghraphics?
[19:26] <Kibbles> how can I permanently shut off CUPS?
[19:26] <Flare183> Kibbles:
[19:27] <Flare183> Kibbles: you can't
[19:27] <Kibbles> Flare183:
[19:27] <Flare183> oops sorry about the enter
[19:27] <clearzen> witepa: that should work with WPA as well btw
[19:27] <Kibbles> Flare183: you serious?
[19:27] <bert_> hi, a quick one, can I use the arrow images that come with ubuntu or do I have to link to some kind of license ?
[19:27] <Kibbles> Flare183: can't I disable it from loading with linux?
[19:27] <Flare183> Kibbles: Dude i don't joke that much at all
[19:27] <oscar> kiubo papa
[19:27] <craigbass1976> I'm still working on a problem I had last night.  Trying to fix my ubuntu box that tells me when I log in that my session only lasted 10 seconds, and shoves me back into the login screen
[19:27] <oscar> al muñeco no me lo saca cualkiera
[19:28] <Harm> bert_: not sure.. but i think its all free?
[19:28] <witepa> clearzen: k, thanks
[19:28] <craigbass1976> I can't ssh in for some reason
[19:28] <clearzen> sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys stop
[19:28] <Flare183> !fr
[19:28] <Nirevus> fijam, I did have a look around, the Ubuntu forums are done, and I couldn't find anything really relevant.
[19:28] <Kibbles> Flare183: isn't that something of a security hole?
[19:28] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[19:28] <bert_> Harm: I think it is but I'm not sure, that's why I'm asking it
[19:28] <nickrud> Guest56502: you wil probably need to install with the alternate cd  ( releases.ubuntu.com/7.10) and then do the following for your ati, it's not supported by the ubuntu included driver: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-117effcb5f0fbe8e10f40881bff1dbf7824a77b0
[19:28] <Flare183> Kibbles: no just not possible
[19:28] <teo_> can someone tell me how can i install php with gd library ???
[19:28]  * Timon_Crazy желает всем крепких снов
[19:28] <Flare183> Kibbles: you can stop it but not permanent;ly
[19:28] <Flare183> !greek
[19:28] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[19:28] <clearzen> Kibbles: sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys stop
[19:28] <nickrud> !ru | Timon_Crazy
[19:28] <ubotu> Timon_Crazy: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[19:28] <oscar> :
[19:28] <bert_> teo, just install the packages php and php-gd from synaptic
[19:28] <oscar> .:@
[19:28] <Cpudan80> Flare183: That's russian I think
[19:29] <Harm> teo_: read PHP howto.. or go to #php
[19:29] <oscar> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
[19:29] <Flare183> !ri
[19:29] <clearzen> Kibbles: you can also remove it from the startup items
[19:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ri - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:29] <oscar> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
[19:29] <Guest56502> it is russian
[19:29] <oscar> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
[19:29] <oscar> 2@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@22
[19:29] <Flare183> cap
[19:29] <oscar> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@2
[19:29] <Flare183> crap
[19:29] <Cpudan80> !ops | oscar
[19:29] <oscar> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
[19:29] <ubotu> oscar: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[19:29] <oscar> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
[19:29] <bert_> teo_, just install the packages php and php-gd from synaptic
[19:29] <FloodBot2> oscar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:29] <Timon_Crazy> nickrud: 10nx
[19:29] <Flare183> yeah get out
[19:29] <Guest56502> about my problem
[19:29] <oscar> 22@@@@@@@@@@@@@
[19:29] <oscar> 2@@@@@@@@@@@@@
[19:29] <Guest56502> anyone?
[19:29] <oscar> 2@@@@@@@@@@@@@
[19:29] <Cpudan80> Floodbot - help!
[19:29] <Charitwo> oh thanks tomaw
[19:29] <Flare183> thanks finally
[19:29] <Cpudan80> Wonder why the floodbot didnt kill that
[19:29] <nickrud> wow, the ops are getting slow ;)
[19:29] <fijam> Nirevus, I am not certain if you can build a 64bit kernel using 32bit toolchain... really, that's not my field :)
[19:29] <Flare183> yeah that's kinda whack
[19:29] <epifanio> hi
[19:30]  * Cpudan80 takes cookies from floodbot
[19:30] <nickrud> Flare183: I think we're just spoiled
[19:30] <Flare183> nickrud: haha yeah kinda i should have kicked him myself
[19:30] <pinocchio> sera a tutti
[19:31] <pherring> how fast do things have to be to trigger floodbot?
[19:31] <clearzen> Kibbles: you can also remove it from the startup items
[19:31] <Kibbles> Flare183:  clearzen:  `sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys` stop disables it momentarily - but how can I tell the kernel to load that command at startup, effictively killing CUPS?
[19:31] <clearzen> Kibbles: you can also remove it from the startup items
[19:31] <Cpudan80> pherring: That information is classified :-)
[19:31] <Kibbles> clearzen: how?
[19:31] <clearzen> sudo update-rc.d -f  remove
[19:31] <HetaUma> ! fusion icon
[19:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fusion icon - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:31] <clearzen> sudo update-rc.d -f  remove <startup script>
[19:31] <HetaUma> ! compiz fusion icon
[19:32] <pherring> Cpudan80, understandable
[19:32] <ForsakenSoul> don`t know if this is the right place to ask but i can`t think of any other place ... i`ve just isntalled opengeu on my system and i want to share some files so that other pc-s from my net can access them ...
[19:32] <ForsakenSoul> can anyone help me
[19:32] <bert_> does anyone know anything about artwork licensing in ubuntu ?
[19:33] <Flare183> !freedom
[19:33] <ubotu> freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing
[19:33] <Flare183> oops
[19:33] <Flare183> haha
[19:33] <Flare183> sorry about that
[19:33] <JFactor> I am trying to install the build-essential package however it says it cannot resolve depositories
[19:33] <JFactor> or repositories rather
[19:33] <camden_> i can't install vmware
[19:34] <HetaUma> how can I install compiz fusion icon ?
[19:34] <Kibbles> camden_: join the club
[19:34] <camden_> it says i386 is not supported
[19:34] <Flannel> ForsakenSoul: #geubuntu is the place to ask
[19:34] <camden_> any option?
[19:34] <bert_> camden_ which version of vmware and do you talk about server, player or what kind of program ?
[19:34] <Kibbles> camden_: virtualbox
[19:34] <ForsakenSoul> Flannel Gebuntu is curently uninhabited and #opengeu no one answers
[19:34] <camden_> bert_: player
[19:34] <Kibbles> camden_: but beware, it's a bit buggy
[19:34] <ForsakenSoul> this was my last option
[19:34] <ForsakenSoul> thanks anyway
[19:34] <camden_> it shows up in add/remove
[19:34] <camden_> vmware shows up in add/remove
[19:35] <camden_> but it says "can't install on i386"
[19:35] <Flannel> ForsakenSoul: what sort of sharing of files are you looking to do? HTTP? ftp?
[19:35] <bert_> do you really need it camden_ because there are better and more OS-type programs ?
[19:35] <Kibbles> camden_: did you try on 64bit?
[19:35] <camden_> bert_: i'm trying to do: http://oopsilon.com/Running-a-Windows-Partition-in-VMware
[19:35]  * Kibbles doesn't know what he's talking about
[19:35] <camden_> i have a dual boot
[19:35] <camden_> and i want to be able to run the win partition from inside ubuntu
[19:36] <camden_> that page explains how to do it
[19:36] <bert_> camden_ is that possible ?
[19:36] <camden_> see the link
[19:36] <camden_> bert_: did you get the link i posted?
[19:36] <Kibbles> bert_: yeah, and it's pretty easy too
[19:36] <incorrect> is there a meta package to get 32bit emulation for amd64 platform?
[19:36] <vhozard> anyone who can help me with changing resolution with caputure on XAWTV ??
[19:36] <Kibbles> camden_: try virtualbox
[19:36] <ForsakenSoul> Flannel i need them to run on a windows
[19:36] <ForsakenSoul> on lan
[19:36] <clearzen> camden_: what you want is virtualzation. I don't think you could run you current install but You could virtualize a new install inside linux
[19:37] <camden_> kibbles: is there a howto for virtualbox?
[19:37] <Flannel> ForsakenSoul: you need what to run on windows?
[19:37] <Kibbles> camden_: no need for one really
[19:37] <camden_> clearzen: see http://oopsilon.com/Running-a-Windows-Partition-in-VMware
[19:37] <Flannel> ForsakenSoul: oh, you need to access them from windows?
[19:37] <camden_> it seems to say it's possible
[19:37] <Flannel> !samba | ForsakenSoul
[19:37] <Kibbles> camden_: pretty self-evident
[19:37] <ubotu> ForsakenSoul: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[19:37] <martillo> need help installing flash player on opera in ubuntu, any ideas
[19:37] <clearzen> camden_: I have VMware. But I couldn't help you with that unfortunatly
[19:37] <Kibbles> !flash
[19:37] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[19:37] <Flannel> ForsakenSoul: unless the opengeu people have tweaked backedn stuff heavily, that'll work for you.
[19:37] <camden_> kibbles: no, i mean a howto for what i'm trying to do... ie run the existing partition from inside ubuntu
[19:37] <vhozard> anyone who can help me with changing resolution with caputure on XAWTV ??
[19:37] <JFactor> Can anyone send me a replacement sources.list for gutsy
[19:37] <JFactor> I think I messed mine up
[19:38] <Flannel> JFactor: You can do it from within software sources now, I believe.
[19:38] <Cpudan80> JFactor: Sure, where is the file though?
[19:38] <millllmannnn> if i have installed a second hard drive do i want to create a primary or extended partition?
[19:38] <JFactor> Cpudan80:What do you mean
[19:38] <amos> sorry can i ask some question?
[19:38] <lufis> My BIOS doesn't support booting from usb, but is it possible to boot from usb through grub?
[19:38] <camden_> so it's possible to use virtualbox to run an existing win partion, without copying it to a vm file?
[19:38] <Flare183> !ask | amos
[19:38] <ubotu> amos: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[19:39] <Cpudan80> JFactor: I can pastebin the file --- but where is it?
[19:39] <Magus_X> lufis: probably
[19:39] <lufis> Magus_X: ;)
[19:39] <Magus_X> sources.list?
[19:39] <astro76> JFactor: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55507/
[19:39] <Kibbles> camden_: that I haven't tried
[19:39] <Magus_X> \etc\sources.list
[19:39] <Magus_X> i think
[19:39] <Kibbles> me is off
[19:39]  * Kibbles is off
[19:39] <astro76> locate source.list ;)
[19:39] <amos> ok, someone knows which is the latest ati driver version
[19:39] <Magus_X> or etc\apt\sources.list
[19:39] <lufis> Magus_X: no, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[19:39] <Kibbles> lol
[19:39] <vhozard> anyone who can help me with changing resolution with caputure on XAWTV ??
[19:39] <MasterShrek> /etc/apt/source.list
[19:39] <Magus_X> ah, the boot
[19:39] <camden_> kibbles: ok., then is there a way to copy my partition to something that virtualbox can use? I don't have any windows cd
[19:39] <MasterShrek> oh, well yea for grub its that
[19:39] <Magus_X> i thought he was talking about the sources.list
[19:39] <Tortured> has anyone here installed diablo 2 under wine?
[19:40] <MasterShrek> Tortured, ive been thinking about a game to install udner wine today
[19:40] <amos> i have been searching but only found 8.40
[19:40] <MasterShrek> Tortured, i think d2 might be it, i think ive done it before
[19:40] <MasterShrek> in fact im almost positive i have
[19:40] <amos> and i have heard of 8.42
[19:40] <amos> but i am unable to find it
[19:40] <Tortured> when it asked for me to change disks ubuntu wont unmount the install disk because wine is running setup.exe ;/
[19:40] <Cpudan80> JFactor: http://www.pastebin.ca/898967
[19:40] <MasterShrek> Tortured, i would use a no-cd patch for it though www.gamecopyworld.com
[19:41] <Cpudan80> JFactor: It's at /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:41] <Cpudan80> JFactor: THat one has the mediabuntu stuff in it
[19:41] <Flannel> Tortured: What you need to do is copy the files from the various disks to your harddrive first.  Which game is this specifically?
[19:41] <jesus_909> Please, i have grub installed on hdc and the / in hdc1 but i have an error 17: cannot mount partition...¿can you help me please?
[19:41] <MasterShrek> Flannel, diablo 2
[19:41] <arnducky> !32bit
[19:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 32bit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:41] <arnducky> !linux32
[19:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linux32 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:41] <MasterShrek> arnducky, whats the problem?
[19:41] <Cpudan80> arnducky: WHat do you want to know about 32 bit?
[19:42] <Tortured> Flannel, and how do i mount after doing copying to hd?
[19:42] <camden_> in other words... i have an existing xp partition... how to i run it with virtualization... i don't care what software (i.e. vmware, virtualbox, etc)  i just don't want to have to dual-boot all the time
[19:42] <Toba> what's the command to make normal users only able to see their own processes with ps?
[19:43] <astro76> Toba: ps ux
[19:43] <Toba> no
[19:43] <millllmannnn> what is the difference between a primary partition and an extended partition?
[19:43] <LiMaO> camden_ ➡ virtualbox doesn't run an existing installation. you have to install the system from within the virtualbox application (on a virtual machine you create)
[19:43] <Toba> I mean make them *not able* to see
[19:43] <Toba> so if they do ps aux they will only see their own stuff
[19:43] <Toba> iirc it's an ioctl thing
[19:43] <avis> are the ubuntu forums down ?
[19:43] <Toba> or something like that
[19:43] <MasterShrek> avis, i think so
[19:43] <camden_> lima0: so i can't do it without the xp cd?
[19:43] <Flannel> Tortured: well, I cant find a diablo II walkthrough on the wiki, and the forums are down for the time being (if youre still having problems in an hour, check there), but here's WoW, which is also a multi-disk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[19:43] <Tortured> Aval0n, yes
[19:43] <Tortured> avis rather
[19:43] <arnducky> Hey guys: what is the name of the meta-package that will install 32-bit libs and allow me to compile 32-bit programs on AMD64 ?
[19:43] <Flannel> Tortured: If thta doesn't help, try asking in #winehq, they'll know for sure.
[19:44] <camden_> i think i heard about converting the xp partition to a vm file
[19:44] <avis> millllmannnn, i know that for linux you dont need any primary partitions and i believe there is a limit on primary partitions on a hard drive
[19:44] <Tortured> Flannel, thank you
[19:44] <RoboCop> DRebellion - Could not detect openssl! Please specify the path to the directory containing openssl/ssl.h via the command line option --openssl-includes="/path/to/file"
[19:44] <RoboCop> Could not detect openssl! Please specify the path to the directory containing openssl/ssl.h via the command line option --openssl-includes="/path/to/file"
[19:44] <Lettuc3> avis 4 primary partitions as far as i remember.
[19:44] <astro76> millllmannnn: it's historical, you can only have 4 primaries, so extended was created which is a primary which serves as a container for more partitions (logical)
[19:44] <thechris> flash amd64 script on forums did nothing
[19:45] <sunseeker888> hi guys, i have a problem. I have just connected a USB wireless microsoft  mouse/keyboard, ubuntu did not see it. i even re booted
[19:45] <thechris> is there anyway to get flash other then that?
[19:45] <lolol> hi to the room
[19:45] <LiMaO> camden_ ➡ you can use an xp iso to install the system from within virtualbox
[19:45] <L3ttuc3> astro76 if i remember correctly, the maximum number of partitions is 4 primary, the last one being a container for 4 extended partitions?
[19:45] <MasterShrek> thechris, sudo apt-get install nspluginwrapper    then download flash from adobe's site, adn extract the libflashplayer.so to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins    then as your user: nspluginwrapper -i /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[19:46] <LiMaO> camden_ ➡ that is, if you have an iso of the cd
[19:46] <Flare183> but MasterShrek you can't flash is broken
[19:46] <camden_> limao: all i have is the xp on my partition
[19:46] <Flare183> !flashissues
[19:46] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation has been broken for some time. A fix has been released now, although it might not have yet reached all mirrors. If the update fails to install Flash, try « sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree ; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree »
[19:46] <Siph0n> I have a vertical scroll bar on the right side of my synaptics touchpad, but i am trying to turn it off.... i put Option		"VertEdgeScroll"	"0" , in the synaptics part of my xorg.conf.... but its still on any ideas?
[19:46] <astro76> L3ttuc3: any one (and only one) of the primaries can be an extended, which can hold a large amount of logicals
[19:46] <MasterShrek> Flare183, the ubuntu package is broken, not the flash from adobe's site
[19:46] <Flare183> oops
[19:46] <meoblast001> hello..... im trying to help my sister with a wireless card problem.... she can get very impatient with computers and blames me for every thing that goes wrong with Ubuntu..... i need to know how to get a D-Link WUA-2340 wireless adapter to work with her system, keeping in mind that until she gets it working, we have no way of getting internet to her system.... anyone know how to help?
[19:46] <razordead> I thought the ubuntu package was fixed
[19:46] <LiMaO> camden_ ➡ you cannot use a 'virtual machine' to run it.
[19:47] <Flare183> MasterShrek: just figured that out
[19:47] <epifanio> hi, i've some problems at login,
[19:47] <MasterShrek> razordead, it appears it is
[19:47] <epifanio> i'm on 7.10-ppc,  it works but to login it needs a lot of time (5 minutes..) ...
[19:47] <L3ttuc3> astro76 hmm must have been a limitation of the OS i was using at the time, that restricted me to 4 extended. oh well.
[19:47] <camden_> lima0: did you look at http://oopsilon.com/Running-a-Windows-Partition-in-VMware
[19:47] <epifanio> when i installed it , to boot it take max 1/2 munutes ....
[19:47] <JFactor> thanks
[19:47] <epifanio> obviously i think that the problems was that installed something that give me these slow boot :-(  how can i check what is the cause ?
[19:47] <TurtleBoots> Hi all
[19:47] <LiMaO> camden_ ➡ nope i did not. and i do not have experience with vmware. if it's possible to run a windows partition then you shoud just follow the guide or how-to
[19:48] <camden_> lima0: add/remove won't let me install vmware
[19:48] <L3ttuc3> epifanio try dmesg in a console? it could be also trying to resolve ip addresses/networks via dhcp...
[19:48] <TurtleBoots> any one here got any ideas how to fix a system when the GRUB is screwed - getting "Error 2" error ??
[19:48] <CursedLord> I have a problem my new graphic card Saphire ati radeon  hd 2600 pro it doest work with ubuntu 7.10 has anyone solved this problem
[19:48] <brobostigon> camden_: look in synaptis insted
[19:48] <brobostigon> synaptic
[19:48] <L3ttuc3> epifanio at any rate, you probably want to have a look at the logs anyway /var/log .
[19:49] <brobostigon> camden_: use synaptic
[19:49] <camden_> brobostigon: i searched synaptic
[19:49] <Quinn_Storm> Quick question, if anyone here might know, in Reconstructor, if I put a custom xorg.conf in place, will it get copied to the final install, or does it get overwritten?
[19:49] <LiMaO> camden_ ➡ check out vmware website. by the way, that guide seems directed towards the 'not-so-new-to-linux' people
[19:50] <sunseeker888> help please Ubuntu does not see my new usb wireless microsoft mouse/keyboard
[19:50] <TurtleBoots> ny one here got any ideas how to fix a system when the GRUB is screwed - getting "Error 2" error ??
[19:50] <martillo> ask how to install flash on opera instead of mozilla/firefox
[19:51] <LiMaO> TurtleBoots ➡ get into the system using the livecd... then chroot your system and fix it
[19:51] <CursedLord> Help please Ati radeon 2600 pro doest work with ubuntu how can i solve this problem after the installation i see a black screen
[19:51] <epifanio> L3ttuc3: in var log, what specific log i need to chek ?
[19:52] <meoblast001> how do you install a printer?
[19:52] <MasterShrek> !cups | meoblast001
[19:52] <ubotu> meoblast001: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[19:52] <eifzon_> Anyone in here that can help me to install ubuntu on a pen-stick?
[19:52] <craigbass1976> ok, I can ssh in now and sudo.  How do I make it so that I can log into the GUI without those "last session lasted less than ten seconds" messages?
[19:53] <L3ttuc3> epifanio syslog, kern.log probably. i should have said, those are a little more accessible via system -> administration -> system log. apologies.
[19:53] <meoblast001> MasterShrek: no.... how do you get to the add printer screen, the one i found in settings > administation was not the same as the one they had in the old GNOME
[19:53] <levander> Are the GLX screensavers supposed to max out a CPU if you have the nv binary driver installed?  I thought I remember that if you had nv installed the screensavers didn't take up so much CPU.
[19:53] <TurtleBoots> LiMaO: what you mean chroot?
[19:54] <LiMaO> TurtleBoots ➡ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroot
[19:54] <MasterShrek> meoblast001, well thats probably because you arent using "old" gnome, sue the one thats there or the web-based cups administration (you need to have a root password set for that so its not recommended)
[19:54] <MasterShrek> use*
[19:54] <TurtleBoots> LiMaO - thanks
[19:55] <Tortured> is there a cp command that will include directories?
[19:55] <MasterShrek> cp -r
[19:55] <LiMaO> TurtleBoots ➡ check out the 3rd link of the 'references' section aswell. it'll help you get everything running
[19:55] <fiXXXerMet> I am playing a game (Anarchy Online) in fullscreen mode in my first workspace.  How can I change to the second workspace, leaving AO running in the first?  I can do this with a hotkey with Fluxbox.
[19:55] <meoblast001> MasterShrek: how do i add a network printer using that that is directly attached to the router
[19:55] <levander> Can someone who's got the nv driver installed run the colorfire screensaver and tell me how much CPU is takes up?
[19:55] <epifanio_> these is dmesg : http://rafb.net/p/AJtcMj82.html
[19:55] <fiXXXerMet> levander: I have the nvidia, not nv, driver.  close enough?
[19:55] <levander> You don't have to run it full screen, if you just run it in the little screensaver dialog, that'll be enough to tell me.
[19:55] <epifanio_> now i'm looking in the log files
[19:55] <TurtleBoots> LiMaO - ta
[19:56] <Magus_X> nvidia does not 3d acceleration afaik
[19:56] <craigbass1976> I ran /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate and the clock is still telling me it's 2005.  Would that cause issues?
[19:56] <Magus_X> nv does
[19:56] <cvega> well gparted did its job.
[19:56] <levander> fiXXXerMet: No, the nvidia driver doesn't have hardware graphics acceleration.
[19:56] <cvega> brilliant.
[19:56] <MasterShrek> meoblast001, i think using the web-based cups admin tool would be your best bet, but like i said you need to set a root password to use it, and point your browser at: http://localhost:631
[19:56] <Magus_X> something like that
[19:56] <fiXXXerMet> No??
[19:56] <JKUbuntu> how do you play mp3 files in ubuntu
[19:56] <fiXXXerMet> So I should be using nv instead of nvidia?
[19:56] <Cpudan80> !mp3 | JKUbuntu
[19:56] <ubotu> JKUbuntu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[19:56] <JKUbuntu> thanks
[19:56] <levander> craigbass1976: It could.  Run "sudo /etc/init.d/ntp restart" to set the time via the ntp protocol.
[19:57] <Tortured> anyone that has installed a multi disk game in ubuntu - do you need to copy the discs to one directory or seperate directories for each disk?
[19:57] <levander> fiXXXerMet: It'll make your 3D graphics faster if you're using any 3D graphics.
[19:57] <fiXXXerMet> I have a nvidia GeForce 6600 GT and I'm using the nvidia driver.  I need to use nv to get hardware acceleration?
[19:57] <mokona> I've got an interesting problem.  Every so often, I'll loose the ability to type in the file browser, like, I cant type out a directory path or use the search bar
[19:57] <fiXXXerMet> levander: Ah, OK
[19:57] <CursedLord> can anyone help me for the ati radeon hd 2600 it doest work with ubuntu
[19:57] <sunseeker888> help please Ubuntu does not see my new usb wireless microsoft mouse/keyboard
[19:58] <levander> fiXXXerMet: Yes.  But, the only thing nv really helps me with is the screensaver.  I do think I remember when I turned it on, it made 2D graphcis, like application windows, a little snappier.
[19:58] <Cpudan80> sunseeker888: It should... worked for me
[19:58] <Aquahallic> is flashplayer package still broken??
[19:58] <astro76> Aquahallic: no
[19:58] <levander> fiXXXerMet: YOu know how to turn it on?
[19:58] <fiXXXerMet> levander: Just change the line in xorg.conf?
[19:58] <Aquahallic> hmm... k... thx
[19:58] <levander> sunseeker888: Does it work under Windows.
[19:58] <Cpudan80> sunseeker888: Are you sure the thing is working properly on its own? IE. Does it work in windows ?
[19:58] <RoboCop> i need ssl.h     which package might be having it?
[19:59] <TurtleBoots> !chroot
[19:59] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[19:59] <Cpudan80> sunseeker888: You might need to enable USB Keyboard support in your BIOS
[19:59] <CursedLord> How can i install radeon hd 2600 pro on ubuntu
[19:59] <levander> fiXXXerMet: I'd go into System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager and turn it on in there.
[19:59] <meoblast001> MasterShrek: its asking what kind of printer it is and idk.... its a brother multi-functioning center.... what should i put
[19:59] <astro76> !ati | CursedLord
[19:59] <ubotu> CursedLord: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[19:59] <levander> fiXXXerMet: But, that one line in xorg.conf may be all it changes, I don't remember.
[19:59] <sunseeker888> Cpudan
[19:59] <Stoffer> how would I format my external usb hard drive as Fat32?
[19:59] <CursedLord> yes ati
[19:59] <sunseeker888> yes it work inb wwindows
[19:59] <Cpudan80> sunseeker888: What happens under ubuntu ?
[19:59] <sunseeker888> Levander thanks it works on windows
[19:59] <astro76> CursedLord: that was a command to tell ubotu to give you information, check out the link
[20:00] <brobostigon> Stoffer: use gparted
[20:00] <levander> sunseeker888: I vaguely remember that there are some issues with wireless keyboard/mouse in Ubuntu.  I don't think they just use the standard USB keyboard/mouse drivers even in Windows.  You'd have to google to verify that though, I'm not positive.
[20:00] <blizzow> What are the generic steps for compiling a third party driver in ubuntu?  I was under the assumption that one just downloads the linux-headers package and build-essential packages and compiles as needed, but apparently this is completely wrong.
[20:00] <Cpudan80> Does the live CD have gparted in it?
[20:00] <fiXXXerMet> Cpudan80: yes
[20:00] <Cpudan80> Does it work?
[20:00] <levander> fiXXXerMet: Have you got it running?
[20:00] <fiXXXerMet> Yup
[20:00] <gabriel> guys i need some help how do i find out my ip, gateway and subnet mask, ifconfig only shows my ip
[20:01] <Cpudan80> fiXXXerMet: ok - great - thanks
[20:01] <Stoffer> brobostigon, would I need to mount the volume first?
[20:01] <sunseeker888> levander: cheers, ubuntu forum is down, maintenance
[20:01] <blizzow> gabriel: man root
[20:01] <fiXXXerMet> levander: The restricted driver is already checked.  it shouldn't be?
[20:01] <blizzow> gabriel: sorry, I meant man route
[20:01] <brobostigon> Stoffer: i dont think it matters, not sure though
[20:01] <CursedLord> which link i havent seen any link
[20:02] <Stoffer> brobostigon, ok, because I currently can't mount it due to it's ntfs-3g file system, which is why I'm changing it to fat32
[20:02] <blizzow> route will give your gateway and netmasks for network interfaces.
[20:02] <Flannel> gabriel: Are you connected over wifi?  ifconfig should show you all.  try iwconfig
[20:02] <meoblast001> how do i connect to a network printer that is directly connected to our router.... what type of printer would it be? Windows Printer, AppSocket, IPP, LPD/LPR, or Other?
[20:02] <levander> fiXXXerMet: Run 'glxinfo | grep rendering' to see if you're using hardware acceleration.
[20:02] <ATG> When someone has a minute... whenever I'm drawing something in GIMP for more than a minute, my entire OS freezes. I can still use the mouse, but that's it. I think it's GL related, but I'm not sure.. anybody have any ideas?
[20:02] <mateusz> I have problem with sound control.. aumix -v +5 or aumix -v -5 does nothing! while with -w option it works..
[20:02] <ahorriblemess> forums are down for now =(
[20:02] <levander> fiXXXerMet: That it's checked may mean you're already using the nv driver.
[20:02] <Aquahallic> astro76: I got it... I had the adobe and gnash installed.. must have been somekind of conflict....:)   Thank You!
[20:02] <mateusz> any idea why global volume is missing on my ubuntu?
[20:02] <levander> ATG: What video card, ATI or nvidia?
[20:02] <mateusz> I have only PCM
[20:02] <fiXXXerMet> levander: direct rendering: Yes.  Curious because xorg.conf shows "driver" "nvidia" and not "nv"
[20:02] <mateusz> :(
[20:02] <gabriel> flannel no im connected through cable, i need those settings ... i don't exactly know how to find them
[20:02] <ATG> Levander: ATi, it's an old Radeon 9200 SE. Worked fine before
[20:02] <ahorriblemess> can someone tell me how to check my ports, or see if any have been opened?
[20:02] <ahorriblemess> i dont think my message sent
[20:03] <ahorriblemess> oh
[20:03] <levander> mateusz: It's missing where?
[20:03] <Flannel> gabriel: Are you not connected yet?
[20:03] <Cpudan80> ahorriblemess: netstat
[20:03] <meoblast001> hello?
[20:03] <ahorriblemess> thanks
[20:03] <usser> ahorriblemess: netstat -atp
[20:03] <fiXXXerMet> ahorriblemess:  You can run nmap against yourself, or use 'netstat -tap'
[20:03] <mateusz> levander: well when I try to use my phisical volume buttons on my lenovo t61
[20:03] <Flannel> gabriel: dhcp should take care of that
[20:03] <ahorriblemess> so is it tap or atp
[20:03] <mateusz> levander: they work without compiz
[20:03] <fiXXXerMet> ahorriblemess: doesn't matter
[20:03] <mateusz> levander: when I run compiz they dont
[20:03] <clearzen> ahorriblemess: sudo nmap -sS 192.168.1.0/24
[20:03] <levander> ATG: Linux has never been that agreeable with ATI cards.  It probably does have to do with GL like you say.  You could upgrade cards to an nvidia one, or keep playing with GL config to see if you can fix it.
[20:03] <ahorriblemess> ok thanks
[20:04] <Stoffer> brobostigon, fyi, it seems to be working fine
[20:04] <levander> ATG: Or, just turn off hardware acceleration and use the open source ATI driver?
[20:04] <gabriel> flannel i'm connected on my desktop pc, dhcp ... but my laptop doesn't want to connect with dhcp so i thought i could manually set them ..but i forgot them, i had them on a piece of paper somewhere
[20:04] <Stoffer> brobostigon, thanks
[20:04] <mokona> anyone have any idea why I'd suddenly lose the ability to type in the location box in file browser?  while still being able to type elsewhere
[20:04] <mateusz> levander: I dont have gobal volume in mixer appler
[20:04] <mateusz> levander: only pcm
[20:04] <clearzen> sudo nmap -sS 192.168.1.0/24
[20:04] <brobostigon> Stoffer: youre welcome
[20:04] <Flannel> gabriel: Ah, you can set them.  You can check on your desktop, they should be the same.  If you control the router, you can chcek on the router too.
[20:04] <ATG> levander: It's always worked before, I'm assuming the problem is related to the fact that I just upgraded motherboards. Redid everything, it all worked fine except the video. So, I'll try with hardware accel off. Thanks!
[20:04] <gabriel> flannel i dont know where to find them on my desktop that's why i'm asking ... ifconfig only displays my ip
[20:05] <levander> mateusz: I have no idea, sorry.  I'd look for info from the ALSA project (sound drivers Ubuntu uses).  Maybe there's an #alsa channel on freenode?
[20:05] <DRebellion> clearzen, actually, the -sS flag isn't needed as this is the default. also, it would be best to run with root privaleges (sudo) to get the best detection. :P
[20:05] <dmarsa> my ati works fine. it being an x1950Pro. You tried using the binary from the ati website ATG?
[20:05] <levander> fiXXXerMet: Where are you with the nv driver?
[20:05] <clearzen> ahorriblemess: sudo nmap -sS -p 21-9000 192.168.1.0/24 would be a little faster
[20:05] <ATG> dmarsa: i'm actually doing that now, thanks
[20:05] <Flannel> gabriel: ah, this is on the desktop.  Um, try one of the GUI things.  It may tell you.  Or, we can just assume you've got a normal setup.  Whats the IP of your desktop machine?
[20:06] <meoblast001> ubuntu is starting to irritate me the last few weeks.... soon im gonna stop defending it over windows
[20:06] <levander> meoblast001: Is that a threat?
[20:06] <astro76> gabriel: ifconfig should give mask also, route -v will give mask and gateway
[20:06] <MasterShrek> sounds like it...
[20:07] <JFactor> Hello, I am attempting to install a .tar package, I am in the extracted directory and I type ./configure however nothing happens
[20:07] <ahorriblemess> ok, so I checked netstat, I don't knowwhat I"m looking at, how would I know if a port is open?
[20:07] <meoblast001> levander: no its the truth
[20:07] <Flannel> !patience | meoblast001
[20:07] <MasterShrek> user error
[20:07] <ubotu> meoblast001: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[20:07] <gabriel> thanks i got it, flannel, astro76 thanks
[20:07] <HumanOdyssey> I'm on Windows, but I just came here to LOL.
[20:07] <lz7> he is the one who knows the truth
[20:07] <levander> Flannel: He wasn't being rude, I was just playing with him.
[20:07] <Flannel> !patience | meoblast001
[20:07] <Flannel> er.  gah
[20:07] <meoblast001> levander: if computers just dont stop working.... im gonna stop.... i reinstalled the whole dang os and i still have a dang bug on my login screen
[20:08] <meoblast001> levander: i gave up on that
[20:08] <levander> meoblast001: Cool.
[20:08] <sn00zer> is there a way to find out why amarok is taking 92% of my cpu whenever the track changes?
[20:08] <Stoffer> is Fat32 a really slow file system?  Because it takes around 6 sec to delete a text file from my Fat32 external usb hdd
[20:08] <syngindub001> looking for help on mounting please?
[20:08] <Flannel> meoblast001: You've been here for a little over 20 minutes, don't despair just yet.
[20:08] <levander> meoblast001: I'd tell you what kind of printer it is, but I don't know.
[20:08] <meoblast001> does canonical offer tech support and how much
[20:08] <MasterShrek> synacktion, what are you trying to mount?
[20:08] <levander> meoblast001: Try #cups for that question?
[20:08] <b3by> hi
[20:08] <meoblast001> k
[20:08] <MasterShrek> meoblast001, yes they do, ubuntu.com should give you information, but you are better off here getting free support imho
[20:08] <levander> meoblast001: canonical.com/support - no idea how much
[20:09] <b3by> talking bout support?
[20:09] <epifanio_> L3ttuc3: where can i look : http://rafb.net/p/JFiXHS95.html
[20:09] <MasterShrek> syngindub001, what are you trying to mount?
[20:09] <meoblast001> i dont have intentions on angering anyone but 90% of the time i leave without an answer
[20:09] <Tortured> if you have to copy a multi disk game to hd to install under wine, do you have to have a no cd patch? boy its a bummer the forums are down
[20:09] <syngindub001> i have an external drive that mounts when i boot to /dev/sb1 and i access through /media/disk. however sometimes i need to umount and repair. how can i easily remount to previous location
[20:09] <MasterShrek> meoblast001, you have yet to ask a question since ive been here, there arent always people aroudn who know exactly what you are trying to do
[20:10] <b3by> beg your pardon
[20:10] <syngindub001> sdb1
[20:10] <levander> meoblast001: Me too.  I kind of figure this channel is really for noobs.  Ubuntu has a lot of people trying Linux for the first time since it's so easy.  You're not trying just the basic stuff.
[20:10] <MasterShrek> meoblast001, have you ever consulted the forums? (they are down atm) but they are very useful
[20:10] <brobostigon> meoblast001: you can only get an answer, if somone knows an answer, if no one answers, no one knows
[20:10]  * olie oops
[20:10] <L3ttuc3> epifanio you're already there, it's a file, syslog or kern.log
[20:10] <b3by> does anyone have an idea on how to get a dwl-120+ working on ubuntu?
[20:10] <meoblast001> MasterShrek: i did and they told me to go away because its "down"
[20:10] <MasterShrek> syngindub001, first off you need a place to mount it, /media/sdb1 is usually a good sopt: sudo mkdir /media/sdb1
[20:11] <L3ttuc3> epifanio however, you can also access those via system -> administration -> system log. that would probably be easier considering.
[20:11] <epifanio> yes i find it, reading and paste
[20:11] <Flannel> meoblast001: Not everyone is awake all the time, you've just gotta be patient, repeat your question every 20 minutes or so.  Eventually, someone who's on will be able to help.  While waiting, check the forums and google (I know, forums are down at the moment).
[20:11] <meoblast001> brobostigon: we'll someone here has to have a network printer, the Gnome they used in feisty had a very easy interface, then they changed it
[20:11] <b3by> T_T
[20:11] <MasterShrek> meoblast001, i dont use gnome, but try #cups or #gnome if you cant get help here
[20:11] <meoblast001> Flannel: i googled until the results stopped having the word ubuntu in it
[20:12] <martillo> anyone familiar with installing flash player on opera in ubuntu?
[20:12] <b3by> am i writing on the right place?
[20:12] <MasterShrek> syngindub001, then: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1
[20:12] <Starnestommy> b3by: looks like it
[20:12] <Cpudan80> b3by: to do what?
[20:12] <b3by> trying to find some help baout a wireless usb card
[20:12] <syngindub001> MasterShrek, the device on /dev/sdb1 mounts on boot to /media/disk. when unmounting the disk folder is removed so i can't remount to this location as i'd like
[20:12] <pharum> help help help i need help :P
[20:12] <Cpudan80> !wireless | b3by
[20:12] <ubotu> b3by: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[20:12] <Flannel> meoblast001: I'm not saying you didnt, or havent, just giving suggestions on how to fill the time.  The others are right too, you might try asking the cups people proper.
[20:13] <Cpudan80> pharum: With...?
[20:13] <pharum> i have strange problem with my mouse :/
[20:13] <b3by> i red documentation
[20:13] <pharum> i have 9 button mouse but i can use only 3 buttons
[20:13] <meoblast001> Flannel: no one in cups is even toalking
[20:13] <lintel> hi, I'd like to install Ubuntu on my Acer TM 2480. Anybody out here who can tell me if it goes well? (WLAN, sleep)
[20:13] <Cpudan80> holy crap
[20:13] <MasterShrek> synacktion, thats because its being auto-mounted, you can just create a directory, like i said before to mount it where you want it.
[20:13] <b3by> but i still can't find my answer
[20:13] <Cpudan80> A 9 button mouse?
[20:13] <astro76> meoblast001: it's probably going to be AppSocket/HP JetDirect
[20:13] <pharum> yea
[20:13] <b3by> ndiswrapper doesn't work
[20:13] <Cpudan80> pharum: picture!
[20:13] <pharum> solotech tm-80
[20:13] <Cpudan80> ok
[20:13] <meoblast001> astro76: thanx
[20:14] <syngindub001> ok, but will the shares be affected then?
[20:14] <mateusz> How to disable stupid indexing thing ?
[20:14] <mateusz> can I remove it /
[20:14] <MasterShrek> lintel, put the cd in your drive and boot of it and find out, sleep probably wont work all that well, never really does in linux
[20:14] <mateusz> ?
[20:14] <meoblast001> astro76: by hostname, does it mean ip address?
[20:14] <astro76> meoblast001: but if it's newish it's possible it's IPP, the manual should help
[20:14] <MasterShrek> meoblast001, either way, ip address is probably better imo
[20:14] <zozobra> How do you mount a dual layer ISO so that you can view both sessions?
[20:14] <astro76> meoblast001: it should take an IP also
[20:14] <pharum> http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/mice-trackballs/techsolo-tm-80/
[20:15] <astro76> meoblast001: what's the exact model of router?
[20:15] <Flannel> !mouse | pharum
[20:15] <ubotu> pharum: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[20:15] <epifanio_> L3ttuc3: kern.log http://rafb.net/p/RxsE3n57.html  sys.log http://rafb.net/p/Vg3gtk28.html
[20:15] <lintel> MasterShrek: should it work already from live-CD?
[20:15] <pharum> also my roll instead rolling site down and up its backing site's :/
[20:16] <pharum> thx i'll ry it right away
[20:16] <MasterShrek> lintel, the wifi might, its hard to say though, if you can pastebin the output of lspci -vv    i can give you some kind of an idea on how it will work
[20:16]  * MasterShrek will brb
[20:16] <b3by> no idea?
[20:16] <syngindub001> MasterShrek, can i override the auto-mount so i can specify where it gets mounted ?
[20:17] <mrgogetem> has any one put yahoo messgr on ubuntu and how do it work
[20:17] <clearzen> syngindub001: yes, it is set in the /etc/fstab file
[20:17] <Tortured> syngindub001, you can set where it mounts in fstab
[20:17] <astro76> mrgogetem: I just use Pidgin
[20:17] <Starnestommy> mrgogetem: I think pidgin works with yahoo
[20:18] <cornishman> pidgin works better
[20:18] <syngindub001> ok i'll try that
[20:18] <L3ttuc3> epifanio what jumps out at me are the error messages around line 248 in the first paste about rpcbind... however, im not entirely sure how to fix it.
[20:18] <mrgogetem> ya but i cant get my cam to work
[20:18] <cornishman> You wouldn't in yahoo messenger either
[20:18] <mrgogetem> whys that
[20:19] <cornishman> The official yahoo messeneger for linux doesn't have webcam support
[20:19] <cornishman> But
[20:19] <mateusz> HOW TO TURN OFF indexing thing
[20:19] <cornishman> There was another messenger client that did have that, I'll rememeber what it was called in a minute
[20:19] <astro76> mateusz: system > prefs > sessions, uncheck Tracker
[20:19] <jrib> mateusz: system -> preferences -> indexing  no need for the caps
[20:20] <b3by> what if ndiswrapper tells me driver installation could be wrong?
[20:20] <Magus_X> cornishman: aMSN? Gaim? Mercuty?
[20:20] <meoblast001> what do i do if i cant find a printer on the gnome printer list and the ubuntu forums are down so all the results on google wont work
[20:20] <meoblast001> ?
[20:20] <mrgogetem> ya i ben looking at a cupl but i dont think none has it
[20:20] <mateusz> jrib: How to kill it?
[20:20] <zozobra> mateusz: System> Preferences> Indexing Preferences> Uncheck "Enable Indexing"
[20:20] <Webu> Is there any other light GUI's like XFCE?
[20:20] <Starnestommy> mateusz: kill `pidof trackerd` ?
[20:20] <jrib> mateusz: it's a gui, you check and uncheck things
[20:20] <zozobra> Webu: Flux
[20:20] <astro76> meoblast001: I asked what is the exact model of router?
[20:21] <cornishman> http://gyach.bc2va.org/
[20:21] <Tortured> Webu, fluxbox
[20:21] <Starnestommy> Webu: afterstep, enlightenment, fvwm
[20:21] <Webu> Okey thanks for all the answers :)
[20:21] <cornishman> mrgogetem: you might have some luck with gyach http://gyach.bc2va.org/
[20:21] <meoblast001> astro: Linksys Wireless-G WRT54G v5...... but the printer isnt on the list of gnome printers..... its a brother mfc 5440-cn
[20:22] <zozobra> Does anyone know how to mount an iso that's meant to be dual layer so that you can see the data for both sessions?
[20:22] <LDS_Trooper> Greetings! I was gifted with an iPAQ today and I was wondering where I can get info on getting it to work with Ubuntu.
[20:22] <astro76> meoblast001: I know, that's why I want to look up the documentation ;)
[20:22] <meoblast001> k
[20:22] <XredX> hello
[20:22] <Siph0n> the right side of my touchpad scrolls vertically, and i want to turn it off... in xorg.conf i put Option		"VertEdgeScroll"	"0" , in the synaptics section... it didnt work though, anyone have ne ideas?
[20:22] <clearzen> zozobra: sudo mount -o loop /path/to/iso /mount/point doesn't work?
[20:22] <Webu> Hmm, I'
[20:22] <levander> LDS_Trooper: I'm trying to figure out the same thing for a RAZR V3xx and haven't had much luck.  I'd start at UbuntuForums.org - but, it's down right now.
[20:23] <LDS_Trooper> levander, thanks!
[20:23] <Celes> I need help
[20:23] <XredX> hey does ubuntu come with an Identd server?
[20:23] <Stoffer> can someone help me with the trivial issue of getting translucency and shadows working in KDE?
[20:23] <levander> XredX: Yes.  I don't know how to use it though.
[20:23] <astro76> meoblast001: oh when you said directly to the router I thought it had a print server, you have a network printer... what kind of printer?
[20:23] <zozobra> clearzen: that works but I only see the data meant for one side of the disc. Ex: It's a 7.5GB ISO and when mounted, the contents are 400mb.
[20:23] <LDS_Trooper> levander, I know there is the palmOS stuff on the system menu.. but this is not PalmOS
[20:23] <Starnestommy> XredX: not by default, but hidentd, oidentd, and a few others are in the repositiroes
[20:23] <david08> hello, how do i put the recycle bin on the desktop?
[20:23] <XredX> xlnt thanks ^_^
[20:23] <astro76> meoblast001: it's probably going to be IPP
[20:24] <Celes> can someone help me with my sound issue? my friend said that my sound was stolen.. by some program and that I have to restart alsa yet I dont know what that means??
[20:24] <levander> LDS_Trooper: I don't know much about it.
[20:24] <meoblast001> astro76: Brother MFC-5440 CN (and im angry that they no longer make refil kits on cartridges lol)
[20:24] <LDS_Trooper> levander, seems we are in the same boat
[20:24] <levander> LDS_Trooper: And, it kind of sux that that's all they've got on the menus.  PalmOS is dead.
[20:24] <Cpudan80> Hey ehh
[20:24] <howdoudo> I know this is off topic but anyone here use AdvancedMess?
[20:24] <astro76> meoblast001: well if you get another get an HP if you want good linux support, always check first too ;)
[20:24] <Cpudan80> I need the debugging package for rhythmbox, anyone know what it is called
[20:24] <danand_> Celes - sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[20:24] <mateusz> how to file a bug??
[20:24] <Cpudan80> !info rhythmbox-dbg
[20:24] <jrib> howdoudo: ask about offtopic stuff in #ubuntu-offtopci
[20:24] <ubotu> Package rhythmbox-dbg does not exist in gutsy
[20:24] <jrib> howdoudo: ask about offtopic stuff in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:25] <meoblast001> astro76: what about lexmark?
[20:25] <mateusz> !report bug
[20:25] <jrib> !bugs | mateusz
[20:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about report bug - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:25] <ubotu> mateusz: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[20:25] <meoblast001> astro: they have refill kits
[20:25] <clearzen> zozobra: sudo mount /dev/cdrom0 /media/cdrom0 -t iso9660 -o unhide /path/to/iso /mount/point
[20:25] <meoblast001> astro76: but then again, if you can saw the tops off the cartridges and then tape them back up, you can refill it in my opinion
[20:25] <martillo> anyone familiar with installing flash player on opera in ubuntu?
[20:25] <mrnotproper> hi, i've a little problem with the scalling of my cpu ... since,i don't know how much time, cpufreq-utils didn't recognize my cpu... I tried different config of intel's option in my bios and the default config and anything change. I've a Core 2 Duo and a kernel in realtime..
[20:25] <clearzen> zozobra:sudo mount /dev/cdrom0 /media/cdrom0 -t iso9660 -o unhide
[20:26] <david08> hello, how do i put the recycle bin on the desktop?
[20:26] <levander> howdoudo: There's a #windows channel too you could try.
[20:26] <astro76> meoblast001: HP actively develops and supports the linux printing support
[20:26] <jrib> !icons > david08 (read the private message from ubotu)
[20:26] <clearzen> zozobra: grrr that's wrong one sec
[20:27] <Celes> I got this bash: sudo/etc/init.d/alsa-utils: No such file or directory
[20:27] <JKUbuntu> what are some good ubuntu apps that are'nt listed in add or remove programs?
[20:27] <MattJ> Celes: Put a space after sudo
[20:27] <brobostigon> JKUbuntu: have a look on packages.ubuntu.com
[20:27] <levander> david08: Try making a link to ~/.Trash in your ~/Desktop directory.
[20:27] <JKUbuntu> cool
[20:27] <meoblast001> astro76: but they probably have unrefillable cartridges
[20:28] <Celes> sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart?
[20:28] <MattJ> Celes: Yep
[20:28] <tontonmelkor> salut all
[20:28] <levander> david08: I just tried it, it works: "ln -s .Trash Desktop/Trash"
[20:28] <Stoffer> i'm currenty running KDE 3.5.8 as that's what was included in the kubuntu-desktop package.  What would be the best way to upgrade to KDE 4?
[20:29] <brobostigon> !kde4 | stoffer
[20:29] <ubotu> stoffer: KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[20:29] <zozobra> clearzen: or, if I could just clone or copy the contents of an iso to a specified disk, this wouldn't even be necessary
[20:29] <Celes> it says its setting up alsa
[20:29] <sarthor> Hi, I want to block any of image of size "http://ads1.msn.com/ads/1/0000000001_000000000000000163044.jpg", I am using "deny_info" in squid. but the images on the website changing day by day, how can i tell to squid to block the image of this site and put my own banner there???? Help please, i am not much expert in linux
[20:29] <meoblast001> astro76: IPP cant find my host name
[20:29] <JKUbuntu> Apple ][ Emulator does this let you run OS X?
[20:29] <Celes> does that mean its restarted now?
[20:29] <thiemster> whenever I press delete, ubuntu freezes. Why?
[20:29] <MattJ> Celes: Yes, I believe so
[20:29] <astro76> meoblast001: yeah it's not IPP, it's older protocols
[20:29] <zt7724> JKUbuntu: apple II is a 8 bit machine from 1979 :)
[20:30] <JKUbuntu> what does it do?
[20:30] <meoblast001> astro76: i found a page that brother operates with linux cup driversr
[20:30] <cvega> woot. ubuntu on.
[20:30] <astro76> meoblast001: AppSocket with port 9100 should work, but also possibly LPD/LPR Host, click that and see if the Probe button brings up anything
[20:30] <Stoffer> brobostigon, thanks again
[20:30] <Webu> What do you think would Ubuntu boot fast from an USB stick? Do you have any other suggestions to make a fast-to-boot system? I don't need anything special, just fast booting times.
[20:30] <JKUbuntu> yeah you can boot ubuntu from usb.
[20:30] <Celes> yep now i know the issue.. banshee is taking over my sound :(
[20:30] <tontonmelkor> i'm looking for someone he can help me to activate my graph acceleration
[20:30] <DJ_Danni> Hi i need hellp
[20:30] <thiemster> whenever I press delete, ubuntu freezes. Why?
[20:30] <Celes> everytime I try to play something on banshee it freezes
[20:30] <jrib> !ask | DJ_Danni
[20:30] <ubotu> DJ_Danni: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[20:31] <tontonmelkor> that's an intel chipset
[20:31] <chotchki> hey guys, does anyone know if vserver virtualizaion is built in the ubuntu server kernel by default?
[20:31] <tontonmelkor> i'm looking for someone he can help me to activate my graph acceleration
[20:31] <chotchki> in at least gutsy?
[20:31] <JKUbuntu> I dont get it what does this do? Apple ][ Emulator
[20:31] <usr_rob> anyone? mount.nfs: 192.168.0.27:/home failed, reason given by server: Permission denied
[20:31] <XredX> Starnestommy: thanks! it worked
[20:31] <meoblast001> astro76: just downloaded the driver off the brother site
[20:31] <thiemster> whenever I press delete, ubuntu freezes. Why?
[20:32] <DJ_Danni> I am in trobule with my Webserver if you test http://www.spacestream.net she ask you to Download somthang but what can i do?
[20:32] <meoblast001> astro: but do you know a way to refill cartridges that dont have refill kits made specifically for them
[20:32] <rainwalker> aren't the forums supposed to be back up?
[20:32] <cvega> can someone pls post the ref link to installing graphics cards?
[20:32] <cvega> !nvidia
[20:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[20:32] <Starnestommy> DJ_Danni: it looks like it isn't parsing the phtml files
[20:32] <thiemster> the forums are still down
[20:32] <epifanio_> L3ttuc3: yes it is the key !
[20:32] <MattJ> thiemster: Odd problem
[20:33] <rainwalker> @time utc
[20:33] <ubotu> Current time in Etc/UTC: February 10 2008, 20:33:11 - Next meeting: Education Team in 2 days
[20:33] <DJ_Danni> Starnestommy how can i fix it?
[20:33] <thiemster> Mattj: i think it has something to do with compiz
[20:33] <MattJ> thiemster: Ah
[20:33] <chotchki> @search vserver
[20:33] <thiemster> Mattj: but I don't know what to do. When i press escape, it's not frozen anymore
[20:33] <astro76> meoblast001: dunno I've never done it
[20:33] <meoblast001> astro76: whats a cups wrapper driver?
[20:33] <epifanio_> searching on google the line : rpcbind: server localhost not responding, timed out
[20:33] <MattJ> thiemster: Sounds like Compiz is set to do something when you press that key
[20:33] <Starnestommy> DJ_Danni: I don't remember how, exactly.  #apache might be able to help
[20:34] <MattJ> thiemster: Just a second, let me test something
[20:34] <DJ_Danni> ok thangs
[20:34] <thiemster> MattJ: ok
[20:34] <epifanio_> i have that it is related to the nfs mount system
[20:34] <epifanio_> when i boot after the splash screen
[20:34] <epifanio_> i see the boot log ...
[20:34] <L3ttuc3> all my usb devices just stopped working. is there a way to force them to be polled again? unplugging and plugging them back in again does not work either.
[20:35] <epifanio_> and it stay a lot of time (3-4 minutes)
[20:35] <epifanio_> on the nfs mount step
[20:35] <thiemster> L3ttuc3: have you tried unmounting them?
[20:35] <thiemster> L3ttuc3: and then remounting them with the mount command
[20:35] <L3ttuc3> thiemster that includes a keyboard and a mouse, and a cd drive.
[20:35] <MattJ> thiemster: Do you have the Compiz configuration editor installed?
[20:35] <Geezle> Hey folks, I'm on a brand new install of 7.10 and it won't mount my CDROM for some reason.  I get the error "mount: special device /dev/hdb does not exist" but I just finished using the drive to install.
[20:35] <thiemster> MattJ: how do i check?
[20:35] <rainwalker> wasn't VMware added to the repos?
[20:36] <esperegu> anyone knows how I can prevent lm-sensors to beep when my cpu fan stops spinning???????
[20:36] <MattJ> !ccsm | thiemster
[20:36] <ubotu> thiemster: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[20:36] <L3ttuc3> thiemster not gonna work for keyboard and mouse.
[20:36] <Starnestommy> rainwalker: I think it might eb in the miltiverse section
[20:36] <L3ttuc3> thiemster lsusb hangs.
[20:36] <MattJ> thiemster: (I'm also assuming you are using Gutsy?)
[20:36] <thiemster> L3ttuc3: I thought u meant just flash drives
[20:36] <thiemster> MattJ: yea, i'm using gutsy
[20:36] <rainwalker> Starnestommy: I have all the repos enabled, but it's not listed in synaptic
[20:36] <Starnestommy> rainwalker: actually, I just checked and it isn't. whoops
[20:36] <thiemster> MattJ: what do you mean by !ccsm
[20:36] <L3ttuc3> thiemster nopes, unfortunately. any ideas?
[20:36] <MattJ> thiemster: See what ubotu said to you
[20:37] <JC_Denton_> How can I get mono 1.2.6 to work ?
[20:37] <thiemster> L3ttuc3: the only thing i can think of is rebooting
[20:37] <thiemster> L3ttuc3: maybe reboot into a livecd
[20:37] <thiemster> L3ttuc3: or into safe mode, but idk
[20:37] <meoblast001> im gonna bank on buying a new printer
[20:37] <meoblast001> that i cant afford
[20:37] <Mr_Tripotage> !fr
[20:37] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[20:37] <epifanio_> can i sole something using : /etc/init.d/portmap  XXXstart-stop-reloadXXX ?
[20:37] <meoblast001> and i have 2 assignments do on thursday
[20:37] <meoblast001> im screwed
[20:38] <deniz_> i have dial-up conection, is it easy to share dial-up connection to my laptop thru a wired router?
[20:38] <thiemster> !ccsm | thiemster
[20:38] <L3ttuc3> thiemster i think rebooting is going to solve it. kernel log says this: Feb 11 00:31:27 laptop kernel: [18130.920000] usb 6-1: USB disconnect, address 2
[20:38] <L3ttuc3> thiemster i was hoping to avoid having to reboot.
[20:38] <simone> Hi someone can help me with ffmpeg?
[20:38] <thiemster> MattJ: I'm going to go through every compiz feature i have on and check
[20:38] <MattJ> thiemster: Open Terminal, and: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[20:39] <thiemster> MattJ: It's already installed
[20:39] <Celes> I think im gonna cry
[20:39] <MattJ> thiemster: Great, so you should be able to find it easily
[20:39] <MattJ> Celes: ?
[20:39] <Celes> nothings working I have no sound
[20:39]  * Celes cries
[20:39] <Cpudan80> Nothing is working?
[20:39] <Cpudan80> In what?
[20:40] <Celes> I tried restarting my alsa and that did nothing
[20:40] <Celes> I cant play any sound on my ubuntu
[20:40] <esref> ol
[20:40] <Cpudan80> What kind of sound card do you have?
[20:40] <L3ttuc3> thiemster and i would like to know if there's a way to find out why this happened, and to prevent it from happening again in the future. laptop did not enter any low-powered state. it's hooked onto the mains.
[20:40] <Celes> I dont even know how to figure that out ;"(
[20:40] <Starnestommy> Celes: try lspco
[20:40] <brobostigon> lshw
[20:40] <Starnestommy> Celes: er, lspci
[20:40] <Cpudan80> Celes: System - preferences - Hardware info
[20:41] <danand_> celes - have you had sound working before?
[20:41] <simone> No one can gimme some answer about ffmpeg?
[20:41] <Cpudan80> Starnestommy: The GUI version has a better display :-/
[20:41] <Celes> which would be the sound one?
[20:41] <Geezle> I can't mount my CD-ROM on a brand new install - anybody have any ideas?
[20:41] <Starnestommy> Celes: either one will list it somewhere
[20:41] <L3ttuc3> my usb keyboard/mouse just got disconnected with this error, anyone know how to bring them back without rebooting? Feb 11 00:31:27 laptop kernel: [18130.920000] usb 6-1: USB disconnect, address 2
[20:41] <Starnestommy> simone: what about it?
[20:41] <Celes> I dont even know names of sound cards how will I find it
[20:42] <danand_> !paste | celes
[20:42] <ubotu> celes: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[20:42] <Cpudan80> Celes: Run the lspci thing on a command line, and paste the entire output to pastebin
[20:42] <danand_> celes - pastebin the output of lspci
[20:42] <fedex1993> hi future pilet
[20:42] <fedex1993> spelled wrong yay
[20:43] <FuturePilot> hello fedex1993
[20:43] <mateusz> Is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeutils/+bug/118723 fixed ? cause I also have this bug in gnome when I run compiz
[20:43] <mateusz> Volume control works with metacity when I change to compiz the OSD pop up correctly, but the speakers' volume is unaffected.
[20:44] <esref> hi
[20:44] <aricz__> Hi, what's a good usenet client/reader in console?
[20:44] <Celes> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55512/
[20:44] <Cpudan80> mateusz: Are you sure your volume control is controlling the correct mixer?
[20:44] <Starnestommy> Celes: look at line 15 there
[20:44] <danand_> celes - have you had sound working before?
[20:44] <Cpudan80> Celes: that's a very common sound card, it should work fine
[20:44] <Celes> yes I watched a movie earlier
[20:45] <Celes> and the sound worked fine
[20:45] <Celes> then when i started up music and banshee it froze
[20:45] <Celes> and nothing works now to produce a sound
[20:45] <mateusz> Cpudan80: yes with metacity it works, when I run compiz it doesnt
[20:45] <Cpudan80> Celes: Can you see the volume icon on the screen somewhere?
[20:45] <thiemster> L3ttuc3: sorry, i can't exactly help you there. try looking through any error messages
[20:45] <Celes> yes I can
[20:45] <Cpudan80> mateusz: oh ehh..... dunno about that
[20:45] <Celes> nothing is muted
[20:45] <thiemster> L3ttuc3: or ask the ubuntu mailing list
[20:45] <mateusz> Cpudan80: well slider works.. I am thinking about volume buttons on keyboard
[20:45] <Celes> should I give you a screen shot of my sound settings? maybe theres an issue there?
[20:46] <exneo> hey how do I scan for music outside of my root partion in armorak
[20:46] <Cpudan80> Celes: double click the icon
[20:46] <danand_> Celes - have you tried running alsa-mixer-gui?
[20:46] <mateusz> Cpudan80: this is some kind of ubuntu bug..
[20:46] <exneo> anybody use armorak and keep their files in a seprate partion
[20:46] <Cpudan80> Celes: Hit Edit --> Preferences, check all the boxes
[20:46] <exneo> k
[20:46] <Cpudan80> Celes: crank up the PCM
[20:47] <Celes> I hit all the boxes in the preferences?
[20:47] <Cpudan80> Celes: that way you can play with all of them yeah
[20:47] <exneo> their isn't an edit tab in armorak
[20:47] <blaze416> anybody have any suggestions to connect to connect a scanner?  its a 3 in 1.  i already have the printer working just would liek to beable to scan
[20:48] <Cpudan80> Celes: Also -- click File --> Change device --- make sure Intel Alsa <more stuff> is selected
[20:48] <Cpudan80> Don't play with the OSS one
[20:48] <danand_> Celes - alsamixer in a terminal also works
[20:48] <Celes> hold on
[20:48] <Celes> ill give you a screen shot
[20:48] <Celes> this is getting too complicated
[20:49] <Cpudan80> Celes: make the window big enough to see all the sliders
[20:49] <ahave> could someone explain to me what is wmaster0 under ifconfig?
[20:50] <martillo> anyone familiar with installing flash player on opera in ubuntu?
[20:50] <esref> t
[20:51] <esref> i had the  same problem with java
[20:51] <exneo> k just gotta try media tab solved u guys rule
[20:51] <exneo> s
[20:51] <exneo> s
[20:51] <exneo> ss
[20:51] <shellbend> shellbend
[20:51] <yoluca> mplayer failed to open any video files named "video name.avi"  all video files named "videoname.avi" works great any idea ?
[20:51] <Rising> :))
[20:52] <Anonymous_> How do I go to a different IRC than ubuntu?
[20:52] <Holmes89> hey I have a quick question about ubuntu server if someone can help
[20:52] <Celes> im loading the pics
[20:52] <Celes> soo hold on
[20:52] <Webu> yoluca, have you tried video_name.avi or actually "video name.avi"?
[20:52] <yoluca> i think it has something to do witha " %U to be changed to %F " but not sure where
[20:53] <Holmes89> I have some web pages I want to host on my server on windows, how do I get it to my /var/www/ folder without a gui?
[20:53] <yoluca> Webu well video_name.avi works but video name.avi doesnt
[20:53] <Goosemoose> how do i pass a value into a .sh script I made into a variable within the script?
[20:53] <Webu> yoluca, not with 'video name.avi
[20:53] <danand_> yoluca - video\ name.avi should work
[20:53] <Holmes89> anyone?
[20:54] <Starnestommy> Goosemoose: VAR1=$1, VAR2=$2?
[20:54] <yoluca> Webu i use mplayer gui and i just double click the files ....
[20:54] <Goosemoose> Starnestommy so when i call it can i just say myscript.sh myinfo
[20:55] <Starnestommy> Goosemoose: yes
[20:55] <Goosemoose> then within say var1=$1 and that would read in myinfo?
[20:55] <DJ_Danni> I am in trobule with my Webserver if you test http://www.spacestream.net she ask you to Download somthang but what can i do?
[20:55] <yoluca> Webu someone told me to change something rewarding %U to %F but i cannot remember where .. and worked
[20:55] <sagredo> HOLLA!!! How can I use mplayer or any other video player to output the video stream to S-Video --> TV?
[20:55] <Goosemoose> Starnestommy, thanks
[20:55] <starked> Hi, I was wondering if anyone here could help me get compiz working with my ATI Mobility Radeon X1400.  I've already installed the fglrx drivers and whitelisted them, but I can't seem to get compiz to work.  Anytime I try to enable it it changes my theme for a moment and then says "Desktop effects could not be enabled."  Any ideas?
[20:56] <Celes> okay heres one
[20:56] <Webu> yoluca, sorry about that line.
[20:56] <Celes> http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a333/Celeserz/Screenshot-1.png
[20:56] <yoluca> Webu np ... so any idea ?
[20:57] <esref> ubuntu screen saver problem
[20:57] <esref> power management
[20:57] <esref> ??
[20:57] <deniz_> is it easy to share a dial-up connection in ubuntu thru a wired router??
[20:57] <Cpudan80> Celes: first problem - you are not attached to a mixer
[20:57] <esref> help
[20:57] <adac2> which program allows me to delete data on a dvd
[20:57] <Cpudan80> Celes: oh no nevermind, I just can't read
[20:57] <Celes> im not attached to a mixer?
[20:58] <esref> taner
[20:58] <danand_> Celes - unmute "center"
[20:58] <Cpudan80> Celes: anyway, crank up the IEC958
[20:58] <deniz_> cuz wireless gives me hell
[20:58] <eifzon_> adac2, first you need a dvd+rw and then you can use k3b
[20:58] <Webu> yoluca, I see, unfortuately I don't have any idea what could it be :/ Hopefully someone else could help you. There might be a support channel for MPlayer as well.
[20:58] <soundray> Hi, I'm trying to run an OpenGL program on a remote machine via ssh X11 forwarding, but I get "libGL error: open DRM failed (Operation not permitted)". Remote Non-GL programs work fine, local GL programs work fine, too. Can you help?
[20:58] <esref> _________________________________________________________________________
[20:58] <yoluca> Webu yeah . ok thanks
[20:59] <Cpudan80> Celes: generally better to leave PCM about 75% or so
[20:59] <adac2> eifzon_: it is a dvd+rw...but k3b cannot delete the content on it
[20:59] <Cpudan80> in my experience anyway
[20:59] <eifzon_> adac2, you have the permissions right?
[20:59] <adac2> eifzon_: uh...do I have to be root maybe?
[20:59] <eifzon_> try
[21:00] <Holmes89> does anyone understand ubuntu server, I just have one quick question dealing with transferring files
[21:00] <adac2> eifzon_: i do..just a mom
[21:00] <DJ_Danni> I am in trobule with my Webserver if you test http://www.spacestream.net she ask you to Download somthang but what can i do?
[21:00] <Celes> anything wrong here ? http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a333/Celeserz/sound2.png
[21:00] <danand_> soundray - check you have X11Forwarding set to yes in your /etc/ssh/sshd_config file
[21:00] <soundray> danand_: I do -- xlogo displays fine.
[21:01] <JC_Denton_> My apt-get is broken - keeps saying f-spot and others reporting errors
[21:01] <Cpudan80> Celes: no
[21:01] <yaro> Does anyone know an alternate place I can get the sun-java6-plugin package? I can't seem to sudo apt-get install it or find it in Synaptic.
[21:01] <adac2> eifzon_: no...the start button is not enabled
[21:01] <DJ_Danni> I am in trobule with my Webserver if you test http://www.spacestream.net she ask you to Download somthang but what can i do?
[21:01] <eitreach> Has anyone got any info on the kernel exploit mentioned on Slashdot this evening? -> http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/02/10/2011257
[21:01] <eifzon_> adac2, ask in #keb
[21:01] <eifzon_> adac2, ask in #k3b*
[21:01] <adac2>  eifzon_:k thx
[21:02] <eifzon_> hmm, it was empty there :P
[21:02] <eifzon_> try ##linux then
[21:02] <spaleyAE> Hi all - I just installed the latest ubuntu and created the initial user (spaley) but it does not seem to be able to run sudo... any ideas?
[21:02] <Celes> well whats wrong with my sound
[21:02] <Celes> why wont it work?
[21:02] <yaro> spaleyES: What error are you getting?
[21:02] <demreath> Hi! I need a help: I've set up headless server with VNC access for users (XFCE) and I found out that everyone can power off or reset the machine via logout button in XFCE! How can I disable it?
[21:02] <dmarsa> Holmes89, what are you trying to do?
[21:02] <spaleyAE> spaley is not in the sudoers file
[21:03] <spaleyAE> but spaley is the only account I created (and done during install)
[21:03] <tnnc> can someone tell me what channel on here is for php help
[21:03] <Webu> Holmes89, what are you trying to transfer :)?
[21:03] <Sonja> print test page works! but printing anything from other programs does not work. the print jobs just queue up somewhere. help
[21:03] <Geezle> Somebody please, I need help.  I just installed Ubuntu 7.10 but now it won't let me mount my CD-ROM which I really need
[21:03] <danand_> soundray - try running ssh with the -v option for more verbose logging - that may turn up some error messages you can look into
[21:03] <Stoffer> why would the Synaptic package manager be able to easily find kde4-core while Adept would not?
[21:03] <adac2> eifzon_: yeah both empty
[21:03] <yaro> Does anyone know an alternate place I can get the sun-java6-plugin package? I can't seem to sudo apt-get install it or find it in Synaptic.
[21:04] <brobostigon> yaro: have a look at medibuntu, it miht be there
[21:04] <Geezle> I get the error "mount: special device /dev/hdb does not exist"
[21:04] <danand_> Geezle - type groups in a terminal to check if you are part of the cdrom group
[21:04] <spaleyAE> yaro: not sure you saw my response in all the chatter, but the error I get is "spaley is not in the sudoers file". Of course, since spaley is the only account I can use (it's the only one I created at install) I don't understand why 'spaley' isn't in the sudoers file. Shouldn't that be automatic?
[21:05] <Celes> I give up :(
[21:05] <Celes> with my sound
[21:05] <Geezle> Yep, the cdrom shows up there
[21:05] <Daviey>  /goto +99999999999999999999999
[21:05] <soundray> danand_: thanks -- I'll try
[21:05] <Celes> my friend on a comic channel is trying to help me
[21:05] <yaro> spaleyAE: Yes, it should.
[21:05] <Daviey> sorry
[21:06] <Ritter_Rost> guten tag allerseits
[21:06] <spaleyAE> yaro: right, so any ideas on what to do about it? I could reinstall from scratch but that seems drastic, and with no guarantee that I'd have a different outcome.
[21:06] <spaleyAE> Is it possible I did something wrong during install? Doesn't seem like I had a lot of options to screw up.
[21:06] <simone> Hi someone cat tell me how to encode audio in Mp3
[21:06] <simone> ?
[21:06] <danand_> Geezle - are you sure hdb is your cdrom drive?
[21:06] <yaro> spaleyAE: How long have you been in this current install? Do you have a lot of data?
[21:06] <spaleyAE> yaro: installed it this afternoon for the first time
[21:06] <spaleyAE> no data
[21:07] <spaleyAE> starting over is an option
[21:07] <Geezle> danand_ as far as I know it is...that's what it's set to in /etc/fstab but give me a minute and I'll double check
[21:07] <spaleyAE> I just don't understand what I could have done wrong during install though.
[21:07] <yaro> spaleyAE: That's what I would do. I'm not sure if sudoers is a group. Anyone know if it is?
[21:07] <danand_> Geezle - try eject /dev/hdb and see if your cdrom tray pops out!
[21:07] <spaleyAE> 'spaley' is in the 'adm' group which I assume is admin, yes?
[21:08] <Geezle> danand_: no dice, it says it's unable to open or find the device
[21:08] <Starnestommy> spaleyAE: it should be admin, not adm
[21:08] <danand_> spaley - adm is a different group to admin
[21:08] <spaleyAE> danand_: ah, ok
[21:09] <TurtleBoots> hi all
[21:09] <dmarsa> Geezle, why not just use /dev/cdrom? it should be linked to your device either way
[21:09] <spaleyAE> 'spaley' is in adm, dialout, cdrom, floppy, audio, dip, video, plugdev, scanner and lpadmin
[21:09] <dmarsa> or did you try that Geezle ?
[21:09] <TurtleBoots> how do you find the physical address of the boot device in Ubuntu?
[21:09] <TurtleBoots> want to reinstall GRUB
[21:09] <Geezle> dmarsa: when I try to eject /dev/cdrom I get the same error
[21:09] <soundray> danand_: ssh -v does not give any details relating to the DRM error
[21:10] <spaleyAE> Starnestommy: Can you think of any reason why 'spaley', which was created as part of the installer process, should not have automatically been added to the 'admin' group?
[21:10] <j_humphrey> !flash
[21:10] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[21:10] <branstrom> fuse: failed to open /dev/fuse: Permission denied
[21:10] <Holmes89> dmarsa I'm trying to copy over an assets folder and some html documents
[21:10] <branstrom> Why is that?
[21:10] <Geezle> Is there a simple way to check where my cdrom is?
[21:10] <Holmes89> from anywhere if someone can help
[21:10] <branstrom> I'm trying to use afpfs-ng
[21:11] <soundray> branstrom: you need to 'sudo adduser $USER fuse' (add yourself to the fuse group)
[21:11] <branstrom> soundray: hm, kay
[21:11] <Holmes89> I have ubuntu desktop and windows on the same computer as ubuntu server
[21:11] <demreath> branstrom: and then logout and login again
[21:11] <soundray> !fuse > branstrom, see also the help pages (private message)
[21:11] <lz7> Geezle: where have you seen your cdrom last time?
[21:11] <branstrom> Thanks, guys.
[21:11] <Holmes89> I also have network computers so I just need to transfer the files somehow to the server
[21:12] <lz7> Geezle: nevermind
[21:12] <martillo> anyone familiar with installing flash player on opera in ubuntu?
[21:12] <thiemster> martillo: is it on the adobe flash download page?
[21:12] <spaleyAE> ok, last time for now to everyone... why would it be that I would create a user 'spaley' during install and it would not be given admin privilege?
[21:13] <dmarsa> well Holmes89, the command you want to use is 'cp' used as 'cp /source/directory/file /destination/directory/file' . however i don't know where you want to copy to. so you might have to clear that up
[21:13] <Starnestommy> spaleyAE: sounds like a bug
[21:13] <danand_> spaleyAE - agree with Starnestommy
[21:13] <Holmes89> right but how to I get it off of a thumb drive
[21:13] <martillo> thiemster: i downloaded it from the opera page, and it installed, but only for firefox
[21:13] <Starnestommy> spaleyAE: I think you can go into recovery mode, log in as root, and do 'adduser spaley admin'
[21:13] <Holmes89> it can't find it so how do I mount it?
[21:13] <yaro> Put myself in Medibuntu, installed in Synaptic and.... Firefox still doesn't see it.
[21:13] <demreath> martillo: you just need to make a symlink or copy to /usr/lib/opera/plugins
[21:14] <spaleyAE> Starnestommy: ok, I'll try that. I'm using 7.10 server, btw.
[21:14] <spaleyAE> Starnestommy: thanks
[21:14] <Holmes89> oh I just need to copy it to the /var/www/ folder
[21:14] <danand_> spaleyAE - no - just sudo adduser spaley admin
[21:14] <spaleyAE> Starnestommy: what's the easiest way into recovery mode?
[21:14] <spaleyAE> danand_: I can't use sudo
[21:14] <martillo> demreath: thanks, but keep in mind im still a newbie
[21:14] <Starnestommy> spaleyAE: reboot?
[21:14] <dmarsa> you need to copy from a thumb drive to the /var/www folder?
[21:14] <spaleyAE> danand_: that's exactly the problem I'm having
[21:14] <Holmes89> I know where I need to put it, the command to copy it, I just don't know how to get the server to find where to copy it from
[21:14] <Holmes89> yeah
[21:14] <spaleyAE> Starnestommy: great, th
[21:14] <spaleyAE> thx
[21:14] <flake> how can I unzip a listing and redirect to a file
[21:15] <danand_> spaleyAE - oh crap - of course :)
[21:15] <dmarsa> holmes are you familiar with the mount command at all?
[21:15] <Holmes89> no
[21:15] <flake> unzip -l test.zip > test               isn't right
[21:15] <demreath> martillo: sudo cp /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/opera/plugins/
[21:15] <soundray> Not making any headway here... "open DRM failed" when I run glxgears remotely via ssh. (local glxgears works)
[21:15] <yaro> Why isn't Firefox recognizing Java? Is it becaue I'm using an AMD64 system?
[21:15] <dax_roc> Evening all
[21:15] <DJ_Danni> Do somone know whats wrong?
[21:16] <branstrom> soundray: still I cannot mount if I don't sudo - it seems the mounting in particular is failing... Before it complained about permission but not now, it just says "mounting failed"
[21:16] <danand_> soundray - can you remotely open other X apps
[21:16] <dax_roc> Any one know of a good (multi-core aware) * to dvd tool , transcoding software ?
[21:16] <martillo> demreath: in the command window?
[21:16] <soundray> yaro: yes. You can install the 32bit java plugin into 64bit firefox with nspluginwrapper
[21:16] <ikonia> dax_roc: mencoder
[21:16] <Eimhin> ive got a toshiba satellite pro and when i try and change the volume it stops playing sound altogether untill i reboot
[21:16] <demreath> martillo: in terminal
[21:16] <dax_roc> ikonia: is it multi-core aware ?
[21:16] <soundray> danand_: yes, non GLX programs are fine
[21:16] <yaro> soundray: I was afraid of that. But I had to do that with Flash...
[21:16] <Eimhin> does anyone know what could be wrong
[21:17] <martillo> demreath: THANK YOU
[21:17] <soundray> branstrom: you need to log out and in again to activate the group change
[21:17] <branstrom> soundray: The target directory that I'm trying to mount in is now a+rwx and owned by me, and it still doesn't work.
[21:17] <chaosrl> is anyone familiar with designworks?
[21:17] <mich54_> hey guys , i need help in installin Backtrack 3 on my hard drive , i know this is the ubuntu channel but i couldn't find any solution in any other channel , anyway , when it loads it freezes after an error :"kernel panic - not syncing : vfs : unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8,3) " so any ideas ?
[21:17] <branstrom> soundray: did that :/
[21:17] <spaleyAE> Starnestommy: when I went into recovery mode, I"m in as root, but I tried 'adduser spaley admin' and got 'The group 'admin' does not exist.'
[21:17] <JC_Denton_> My apt-get is broken - keeps saying f-spot and others reporting errors: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1),  apt-get install -f
[21:17] <JC_Denton_> doesn't fix it
[21:17] <dmarsa> Holmes89, ok... well to make it easier, create a directory using 'sudo mkdir /directory/name/' . then use the mount command to mount the thumb drive in the directory you just created. i.e 'sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb /directory/created'. the /dev/sd? depends on what your thumb drive is
[21:17] <spaleyAE> wtf?
[21:17] <branstrom> the permissions error is gone, but it won't mount...
[21:17] <danand_> soundray - hmmm....
[21:17] <branstrom> so weird
[21:18] <Flannel> spaleyAE: Try sudo usermod -G admin -a spaley
[21:18] <Starnestommy> spaleyAE: try editing /etc/sudoers with visudo in recoverymode
[21:18] <Eimhin> also every time i play sound i get this really high pitched noise in the background
[21:18] <soundray> branstrom: did you read the help as linked in the ubotu factoid?
[21:18] <j_humphrey> how do i get flash working in gutsy?
[21:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !flashissues
[21:18] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation has been broken for some time. A fix has been released now, although it might not have yet reached all mirrors. If the update fails to install Flash, try « sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree ; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree »
[21:18] <demreath> I need a help: where can I set permissions for rebooting system etc. from XFCE menu? Now any unpriviliged user can do it!
[21:19] <danand_> spaleyAE - does cat /etc/group | grep admin show anything?
[21:19] <Jack_Sparrow> demreath: Would that be a better question for the xubutu channel ?
[21:19] <spaleyAE> danand_: it shows lpadmin:x:117:spaley
[21:19] <spaleyAE> I did just add 'spaley' to sudoers
[21:19] <spaleyAE> so maybe that'll fix me up
[21:20] <branstrom> soundray: yeah, not sure what to look for though
[21:20] <SuperQ> Anyone looked into the vmsplice() exploit yet?
[21:20] <spaleyAE> but I'm wondering now if anything else is 'broken'
[21:20] <Holmes89> okay what do you mean the /dev/sdb depends on the thumb drive?
[21:20] <danand_> spaleyAE - lpadmin is line printer admin - it appears you don't have an admin group :O
[21:20] <spaleyAE> danand_: agreed, but shouldn't that have happened during install?
[21:20] <Flannel> spaleyAE: If this was a botched install (groups are made at the end), its likely that there are other issues.  You might try reinstalling
[21:20] <soundray> branstrom: what's the command that fails?
[21:20] <spaleyAE> Flannel: I think you're probably correct
[21:20] <danand_> spaleyAE - no, definately not
[21:21] <dmarsa> well the thumb drive will be of the /dev/sd range. if you have no SATA or SCSI drives it should be sda, otherwise it could span through sda sdb sdc etc etc.
[21:21] <spaleyAE> ok, I'm going to reinstall... annoying but not the end of the world... thanks for the help everyone
[21:21] <danand_> spaleyAE - agree with reinstall
[21:21] <Starnestommy> spaleyAE: I think someone came in here before with a similar issue. Editing /etc/sudoers worked.
[21:21] <danand_> spaleyAE - luck
[21:21] <branstrom> soundray: afp_client mount -u fredrik -p - Benton.local:Share /lan/share
[21:21] <spaleyAE> Starnestommy: yeah, I did that, but now I"m worried what else is broken
[21:22] <spaleyAE> probably best to at least try a clean reinstall first
[21:22] <rulfx> Hello there
[21:22] <spaleyAE> I mean, it doesn't take THAT long ;)
[21:22] <Holmes89> it says I get the wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb (or sda) missing codepage or other error
[21:22] <branstrom>  /lan/share exists and is a+rwx and owned by my user
[21:22] <spaleyAE> any known issues with 7.10 server regarding the problems I am seeing?
[21:23] <Flannel> spaleyAE: Did you check the CD for defects?
[21:23] <soundray> branstrom: and the same thing works when you do it with sudo?
[21:23] <yaro> Okay, this is starting to *really* get me mad.
[21:23] <branstrom> soundray: correct
[21:23] <dmarsa> Holmes89, try leave the 'vfat' out of the mount command i gave...
[21:23] <spaleyAE> Flannel: yes, that's the first thing I did before installing. It checked out 100% fine.
[21:23] <mich54_> hey guys ! how can i solve the error "kernel panic - not syncing : vfs : unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8,3) " ???
[21:23] <astralsin> what's the replacement for alsaconf in gutsy?
[21:23] <lynucs> guys, how can i start programs depending on my session-choice in gdm? via .desktop file??
[21:23] <branstrom> the thing is, when I sudo, the dir becomes    ?---------  ? ?          ?                ? share
[21:23] <branstrom> soundray: and I can only access it through root
[21:24] <Tyczek> i've got problem with kernel 2.6.24, i can't suspend or hibernate... anyone had it ?
[21:24] <soundray> branstrom: I'm not sure what to suggest. Maybe there is a way with a fstab entry, using the "users" and "uid" options
[21:24] <Flannel> yaro: Did you get ia32-sun-java6-bin?
[21:24] <branstrom> soundray: drwx---r-x  7 root    root     194 2008-02-10 22:59 share    if I do sudo ls -la
[21:24] <Flare183> i'm back
[21:25] <yoluca> wonder if firefox loads pages slows on every machine not just mine ;)
[21:25] <Flare183> !flare183
[21:25] <ubotu> shhhh you'll only encourage more comments and we have seen enough of them already. ;-)
[21:25] <branstrom> soundray: hm, kay
[21:25] <yaro> Flannel: What repository?
[21:25] <Flannel> yaro: multiverse
[21:25] <Flare183> the multiverse
[21:25] <Flare183> oops
[21:26] <branstrom> soundray: thanks for trying to help :)
[21:26] <StaticSignal> Hi again, #ubuntu. I'm having a networking issue- I'm trying to connect to my wireless network with a static IP so I can ICS, but I can't get an internet connection using the same settings that I've always used for all my windows boxes! Would someone help me understand what I'm doing wrong, and fix it?
[21:26] <hacked``> guys, i have a Dell Latitude D800 laptop with a geforce 4200 Go in it. I have 7.10 install running on it and would like to enable desktop effects... whenever i try to do it from appearances it says 'desktop effects cannot be enabled' the ubuntu help says this is because the graphics card does not support desktop effects, but i have heard d800's running desktop effects
[21:26] <patogen> I can't seem to find how I can have a program running on all workspaces in xmonad
[21:26] <patogen> anyknow know how to achieve this?
[21:26] <ikonia> hacked``: if ubuntu says it's not supported....thats a pretty good clue
[21:26] <Flare183> hacked``: weird me too never tried it because i don't own it
[21:27] <yaro> Flannel: When this installs, where will it install the plugin so I can point ndspluginwrapper to it?
[21:27] <dmarsa> my bad Holmes89, use /dev/sda1 or /dev/sdb1
[21:27] <Holmes89> okay I left out vfat and I get sudo mount -t /dev/[ 2663.703713] dc: assuming drive cache: write through
[21:28] <hacked``> ikonia, maybe ubuntu isnt using the right driver ??
[21:28] <danand_> hacked`` - that should run deskyop effects - do you have the nvidia driver installed?
[21:28] <ikonia> hacked``: I think it is
[21:28] <hacked``> danand_, i would imagine so
[21:28] <Holmes89> wait
[21:28] <fyksen> Hello! I wondered if someone knew how to make windows xp run in ubuntu? In Wmvare? Crossover? paralelle? What is best, and what supports directx?
[21:28] <Flannel> yaro: er, I guess not.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins
[21:28] <hacked``> how to dumble check though
[21:28] <Holmes89> something else happend, hold on a second
[21:28] <hacked``> double*
[21:28] <dmarsa> ok...
[21:28] <ikonia> hacked``: join #nvidia and ask about driver compatability version
[21:29] <danand_> hacked`` - in a terminal type lsmod | grep nvidia
[21:29] <yaro> Ah, tht points me to the path I need. Not to manuallt install it in the wrapper. Joy.
[21:29] <rulfx> fyksen: use VMware
[21:30] <fyksen> Hello! I wondered if someone knew how to make windows xp run in ubuntu? In Wmvare? Crossover? paralelle? What is best, and what supports directx?
[21:30] <fyksen> okey
[21:30] <fyksen> wmvare supports directx and sound?
[21:30] <ikonia> fyksen: you can only run the OS in a virtualised environment like vmware
[21:30] <fyksen> I know that ikonia : )
[21:30] <AHemlocksLie> I'm trying to configure the drivers for my ATI RADEON 9550 graphics card, but it's not working. When I try to run "sudo aticonfig --initial", it gives me the following error: http://www.pastebin.org/18891 It also takes it upon itself to delete my xorg.conf. Anyone have any ideas what's wrong?
[21:31] <ikonia> fyksen: so why say things like "cross-over" which won't run the OS only applications, if you already knew it
[21:31] <yaro> Argh. What's the command for that wrapper again? It's so hard to remember.
[21:31] <hacked``> paging danand_
[21:32] <danand_> hacked`` - paging??
[21:32] <fyksen> Ahh, i didnt know that crossover only runed application. But I have tried parallels today.. Then I wil try wmvare.. Ty, for the help :) SRY for the bad English!
[21:32] <serqiu> hello, what is more stable, gutsy or feisty?
[21:32] <serqiu> can anyone answer
[21:32] <Flannel> serqiu: feisty, because its older.
[21:32] <loa> heh)
[21:33] <ikonia> serqiu: gutsy is later, and more current
[21:33] <soundray> serqiu: they are both stable
[21:33] <loa> hhh
[21:33] <Flannel> serqiu: but that doesnt mean gutsy isnt stable.
[21:33] <Holmes89> well I get this long thing about usage, naming, etc
[21:33] <hacked``> paging danand_
[21:33] <dmarsa> yeah
[21:33] <ikonia> hacked``: he responded
[21:33] <Holmes89> is something not mounting?
[21:33] <danand_> hacked`` - what is paging??
[21:33] <hacked``> i got disconnected though, so couldnt read reply
[21:33] <hacked``> danand_, what was your reply to my question, did not read it
[21:34] <dmarsa> Holmes89, do an 'ls -l /dev/sd* and let me know how many devices in terms of sda sdb etc there are
[21:34] <danand_> hacked`` - try typing lsmod | grep nvidia in a terminal and see what it turns up
[21:34] <greentea> Which one is better vmware vs virtualbox????
[21:35] <ikonia> greentea: it's personal opinion - try them
[21:35] <Holmes89> okay I have sda, sda1, sda2, sda5, sdb, sdb1, sdb2, sdc, sdc1, sdd, sde, sdf, sdg
[21:35] <Neochick> Hai guys. Im trying to lose my windows dependancy but Ubuntu us making is hard for me. I upgraded to Gusty last night via the update manager and that went fine. I installed a couple of things mentioned on ubuntuguide and that went fine. it restartedfine and everything. Now, this morning i went to load, got to grub, went to my normal ubuntu, it started loading, then went to a terminal sorta thing.
[21:35] <dmarsa> ok
[21:35] <hacked``> danand_, nvidia, i2c_gart, agppart
[21:36] <Neochick> asked for my name password, and after 15 or so seconds the screen just goes blank and nothing will brink it back
[21:36] <ikonia> Neochick: "sorta thing"
[21:36] <dmarsa> Holmes89, try 'sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdc1 /directory/created'
[21:36] <maya> re ca doit etre bon je suis sur le bon chat ?
[21:36] <Neochick> (save the reset button)
[21:36] <danand_> hacked`` - ok that means your using the nvidia driver
[21:36] <DeliciousCake> hey guys
[21:36] <ikonia> Neochick: boot into safe mode and do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and stop reading ubuntuguide
[21:37] <screenname92834> hello all
[21:37] <Holmes89> okay it seemed to work, now what?
[21:37] <brobostigon> !fr | maya
[21:37] <ubotu> maya: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[21:37] <greentea> ikonia can u give a link to download for virturalbox
[21:37] <screenname92834> I  HAVE A PROBLEM ha ha didn't you guess that?
[21:37] <x-punk> is it possible to install mac software in linux using an emulator?
[21:37] <hacked``> danand_, point is, why cant i run desktop effects
[21:37] <Neochick> ok ill try that
[21:37] <dmarsa> ok. now cd to the directory... i.e 'cd /directory/created'
[21:37] <ikonia> greentea: no
[21:37] <Neochick> and ill stop reading ubuntuguide
[21:37] <screenname92834> my problem is that I can't connect to ubuntu.com
[21:37] <ikonia> greentea: it's in the package manager
[21:37] <Holmes89> okay
[21:37] <Holmes89> did that
[21:37] <dmarsa> now 'ls -l'
[21:37] <Holmes89> now what?
[21:37] <azdrubal> sup holmes
[21:37] <screenname92834> but I seem to be able to connect to other websites
[21:37] <dmarsa> and see if the files are there
[21:38] <screenname92834> and what's more, on my fedora box, I can see ubuntu.com just fine!!!
[21:38] <Holmes89> it is, hey thanks a lot, do I then use the cp command
[21:38] <dmarsa> yes
[21:38] <Holmes89> okay thanks a bunch
[21:38] <dmarsa> cp /source /destination
[21:38] <Holmes89> that really helped
[21:38] <dmarsa> pleasure
[21:38] <danand_> hacked`` - sorry - all out of ideas on that one
[21:38] <ATG_> If somebody has a minute, I have an X related problem (i think). I switched to the fglrx driver; didn't work. No problem, I went back to ati, reconfigured xorg, and restarted. It all works fine, except compiz/emerald don't seem to be enabled
[21:39] <DeliciousCake> stupid Q: If I download the ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso I'm going to assume I can perform a Live CD boot with it right? cause I remembers years ago when I got the breezy badger CDs ordered there were two different ones, an install and a Live CD. thanks in advance :)
[21:39] <hacked``> when i go to system - administration - restricted drivers manager
[21:39] <ATG_> so, I have all my advanced desktop effects settings enabled, but I don't have window decorations, cube, etc.
[21:39] <hacked``> its enabled, and in use
[21:39] <MasterShrek> DeliciousCake, the install and livecd are the same now
[21:39] <soundray> x-punk: most OS X programs won't work. Have a look at pearpc, though
[21:39] <yaro> Nope, Firefox still can't see it. I'm going by about:plugins here
[21:39] <DeliciousCake> I see, thanks mastershrek
[21:39] <brobostigon> !mol
[21:39] <ubotu> mol is MacOnLinux. For a complete howto, visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacOnLinuxHowto
[21:39] <x-punk> soundray: ok
[21:40] <screenname92834> I'm still on dapper. If I upgrade to the latest one,will I lose all my files etc?
[21:40] <ATG_> everything seems to be enabled according to the software/menus, but I can't see any decorations. Has this happenned to anyone else before?
[21:40] <brobostigon> !mol | x-punk
[21:40] <ubotu> x-punk: please see above
[21:40] <rulfx> there are alternate-cds now
[21:40] <Holmes89> this may sound stupid but how do you un cd haha
[21:40] <TurtleBoots> cd ..
[21:41] <TurtleBoots> Holmes89: cd ..
[21:41] <soundray> x-punk: there's also Basilisk II, but the best it can run is System 7 I think...
[21:41] <dmarsa> or just cd back to the directory you want
[21:41] <x-punk> brobostigon, ubotu: thanks
[21:41] <Holmes89> haha thanks sorry
[21:41] <MasterShrek> screenname92834, no u wont lose anything, but i would suggest waiting until hardy is released to upgrade, since dapper is lts and so is hardy
[21:41] <danand_> hacked`` - i'm not sure why you can't use desktop effects - can you run glxgears ok?
[21:41] <screenname92834> what's lts?
[21:41] <j_humphrey> when is hardy coming out?
[21:41] <MasterShrek> !lts
[21:41] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[21:41] <screenname92834> oh
[21:41] <MasterShrek> j_humphrey, scheduled for april
[21:42] <soldats> j_humphrey: april 2008
[21:42] <j_humphrey> cool
[21:42] <screenname92834> just explain to me why I won't lose anything?
[21:42] <tmatix> i installed 7.10 on a thinkpad, and it worked fine... after installing the latest updates, though, it hangs after login with a blank wallpaper screen
[21:42] <j_humphrey> good thing i have /home in a seperate partition, that'll make it easier
[21:42] <dmarsa> Holmes89, remember to unmount the drive before removing it hey... 'umount /directory/where/mounted/' and it won't let you do that if you are in the directory
[21:42] <tmatix> top shows 100% cpu from nautilus
[21:43] <desijatt> hello guys
[21:43] <screenname92834> !lts
[21:43] <usr_rob__> i need to know where to put the "-p" flag in fstab when mounting a nfs export
[21:43] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[21:43] <screenname92834> hmmm well anyway... is anyone else having a problem connecting to ubuntu.com 'cos I am!
[21:44] <Tortured> so running compiz my mouse scroll wheel changes desktops - unless i have a program fullscreen. is there a way to make it work regardless?
[21:44] <desijatt> i am having a little trouble with /dev/cdrom
[21:44] <Holmes89> okay now I get this message cp: omitting directory 'test/ncd'
[21:45] <Holmes89> test is teh directory and ncd is the file I want to copy
[21:45] <Tortured> Holmes89, cp -r to include directories on a copy
[21:45] <MasterShrek> screenname92834, ubuntu.com works fine here
[21:45] <Flare183> yeah same here too
[21:45] <slugone> okay i have a fresh install of ubuntu...what packages do i need to install to make files.....because as of yet i can make any and get an error
[21:45] <tmatix> after installing the latest updates, though, it hangs after login with a blank wallpaper screen
[21:45] <dmarsa> Holmes89, are you in the test directory already?
[21:45] <slugone> cant*
[21:46] <loa> How i can kill process, if kill -9 didn't kill him?
[21:46] <Tortured> slugone, build-essential
[21:46] <screenname92834> oh great! I can't reach ubuntu.com and I want to get some packages ...
[21:46] <StaticSignal> Hey, guys. I can only connect to my wireless AP if I have 'roaming mode' enabled. Using manual settings that have worked on Windows, now don't. Help?
[21:46] <slugone> okay
[21:46] <slugone> ill pst if still no luck
[21:46] <screenname92834> It should work fine here too, I can see it with my fedora box
[21:46] <MasterShrek> loa, killall         ?
[21:46] <nogh> hi everybody, someone knows how configurate the compiz fusion in an asus eee pc?
[21:47] <varitech> bonsoir
[21:47] <bolt> how can I check if a website, for instance google.com is reachable though port 80 in a back script? need to use http to test it, since i can't ping from this network
[21:47] <bolt> s/back/bash
[21:48] <mjw-> nogh check out wiki.eeeuser.com
[21:48] <coincoin161> hello everybody
[21:48] <coincoin161> from an eee pc
[21:49] <silver2> check this out: http://opinae.com/goobuntu/
[21:49] <cvega> hi
[21:49] <ghaleb> hello all, I'm trying to install Gutsy, but the installer can't see NTFS and FAT32 partitions. only the whole HD
[21:49] <ghaleb> what should I do
 nop i make kill -9 pid
[21:50] <tifine_test> hello when i type ls its shows list of all the files , but its show files in one single line, is there anyway that i can display the files into two lines
 but process in ps aux
[21:50] <avis> i installed moblock-nfq as well as mobloquer today and can only connect to irc cannot access everyday normal webpages.  i set WHITE_IP_IN="192.168.1.1" to allow access to my router.  dont know how to free up pages though
 (
[21:50] <cbx33> anyone know if the exploit currently on slashdot is relevant to a standard ubuntu install?
[21:50] <Slart> bolt: can't you do a wget and check the resulting file size or something?
[21:50] <cvega> i have problems mounting an usb drive
[21:50] <mjw-> nogh http://wiki.eeeuser.com/ubuntu:eeexubuntu:compiz_on_eeexubunto
[21:50] <Slart> cbx33: it probably is
[21:50] <bolt> Slart: hm.. that might just do, actually
[21:50] <dmarsa> cbx33, you mean the firefox exploit?
[21:50] <cbx33> no
[21:50] <cbx33> the other one
[21:51] <cbx33> ther root exploit
[21:51] <Starnestommy> dmarsa: the kernel one
[21:51] <ghaleb> please. people. can u help me!
[21:51] <dmarsa> i see it
[21:51] <cvega> :log file indicates unclean shutdown (0,0)
[21:51] <Slart> cbx33: Linux kernel version 2.6.17 to 2.6.24.1 are affected... ubuntu uses 2.6.22?
[21:52] <Slart> cbx33: I expect a reboot soon =)
[21:52] <cbx33> I saw someone say that standard ubuntu didn't have the affected component
[21:52] <cvega> Operation is not supported : mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use. Choose one action.
[21:52] <Slart> cbx33: look here Linux kernel version 2.6.17 to 2.6.24.1
[21:52] <Slart> cbx33: oh. sorry https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/190587
[21:53] <simone> HELP I get and compile lame but I don't have an mp3 encoder
[21:53] <cvega> exit
[21:53] <Slart> cbx33: from the comments.. confirmed on gutsy and hardy.. didn't read further
[21:53] <Neochick> im back! recovery mode is doing the same thing.
[21:53] <Flannel> simone: Why did you compile LAME?
[21:53] <simone> someone can gimme a solution
[21:53] <Slart> cvega: /part to exit the channel.. /quit to exit the client
[21:53] <varitech> irc://irc.dreams-fr.net/Sakura-no-Hana
[21:53] <cbx33> ok
[21:54] <Neochick> it did some checks, then asked me to press ctrl +d to continue, and i managed to grab this from it
[21:54] <Neochick> Mounting local filesystems...
[21:54] <greentea> what are the difference between http://www.virtualbox.org and the application for innotek virtual box ? are they the same
[21:54] <_hakon_> help, i need to install some drivers for my wireless card in ubuntu 6.06. i have no idea of what the cards  name is, i just want to access wireless
[21:54] <Slart> Neochick: pastebin if you're planning to paste lots of stuff..
[21:54] <ADHDYoshi> How can I extend my root partition? I have a bunch of free space before it but ext3 can't be extended backwards I heard... so is there a way to make a new partition, then copy the contents of the root partition to it?
[21:55] <Neochick> failed to access '/dev/sda1':no such file or directory, failed to access '/dev/sdc1':no such file or directory, [FAIL]
[21:55] <Starnestommy> greentea: they're pretty much the same except for some features.  I forget which ones, though
[21:55] <yoluca> does anyone know why i cannot install perl5 ? i get >> Package perl5 has no installation candidate
[21:55] <hefe_bia> hi! When I use xchat-gnome with the default settings - will channel entering / quitting be done quietly? (Don't want to annoy people...)
[21:55] <Flannel> ADHDYoshi: How big is your root? (and how full?) and how big is the freespace?
[21:55] <Slart> yoluca: isn't there a newer version of perl? or you have to have v5 ?
[21:55] <Starnestommy> yoluca: install perl instead of perl5
[21:55] <Slart> !info perl
[21:55] <ADHDYoshi> 5gb, and 500mb left
[21:55] <ADHDYoshi> i'm going to check the free space right now
[21:55] <Flannel> ADHDYoshi: and freespace?
[21:55] <Flannel> Alright
[21:55] <ubotu> perl (source: perl): Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and Report Language. In component main, is important. Version 5.8.8-7ubuntu3.1 (gutsy), package size 3307 kB, installed size 11444 kB
 yes
[21:56] <chazco> Anybody know how to use sed to find a given line and remove a comment (#) symbol from the next 4 lines (but not the line itself)?
[21:56] <yoluca> Starnestommy, Slart   ohh ... my bad sorry
[21:56] <ADHDYoshi> 24 gigs
 dd for example
[21:56] <ADHDYoshi> Great
[21:56] <ADHDYoshi> I just want a 10 gig root partition since I'm installing lots of software
[21:56] <Slart> yoluca: no need to be sorry.. no lives lost.. monetary losses at a minimum.. =)
[21:56] <Flannel> ADHDYoshi: What you do is (via liveCD), create a partition in that 24GB, move everything from / to it (via the cpio method) and then delete the 5GB and expand the 24 to 29
[21:56] <q_a_z_steve> ok, before I pull my hair out, I had gutsy installing, walked off, and it is back to the regular screen. I know it didn't reboot. DID IT INSTALL???
[21:57] <Flannel> ADHDYoshi: Or, 10GB, whatever.
[21:57] <ADHDYoshi> OK
[21:57] <simone> please help me.. It's a patents problem?
[21:57] <ADHDYoshi> So I can just move it? There isn't any extra stuff involved in transferring? XD
[21:57] <ADHDYoshi> Thanks
[21:57] <ahave> hello room, i am having trouble finding my USB wifi chipset. lspci does not bring up a network controller
[21:57] <Starnestommy> q_a_z_steve: the best way to test it is to reboot
[21:57] <Starnestommy> ahave: tey lsusb
[21:57] <soundray> simone: why did you compile lame?
 hmm... what fs type
[21:57] <Starnestommy> *try
[21:58] <ADHDYoshi> ext3
[21:58] <q_a_z_steve> Starnestommy: shouldn't it indicate a reboot is necessary in the top right corner???
[21:58] <ahave> Starnestommy, ah. yes that is correct thanks
[21:58] <marylou> Hey, does anybody know an easy way to see the CPU temperature (for a Core 2 Duo)?
[21:58] <soundray> marylou: try acpi -V
[21:58] <Starnestommy> q_a_z_steve: I don't remember; I installed with the kubuntu cd
[21:59] <cbx33> Slart, are you compiling a fix?
 i think now
[21:59]  * Neochick wishes ubuntu would love her
 backup your files for example onto another harddrive
[21:59] <[adw]> ive installed the lamp pack, but how do i control if it should run on startup or manually?
[21:59] <VanDyke> heh
[21:59] <marylou> soundray: "No support for device type: thermal"
[22:00] <StYX> hi! i've an issue installing server 7.10 on a proliant dl320 g5 w/ embedded sata raid. i've setup a raid 1 but ubuntu still sees 2 physikal hdds and no raid drive. anyone installed on a proliant sata raid?
[22:00] <Slart> cbx33: nah.. I don't hand out shell accounts.. I'll just make a backup of my domain-server things just in case someone does bad things to it
[22:00] <marylou> soundray: Do I need to run that command with sudo?
[22:00] <dep> StYX: what's the raid device model?
[22:00] <soundray> marylou: no
[22:00] <cbx33> Slart, heheh
[22:00] <ForgetYouNot> m
[22:01] <ADHDYoshi> I don't have any other hard drives at the moment :/
[22:01] <Flannel> marylou: cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature
[22:01] <Slart> cbx33: it still needs some kind of local access.. either through a shell, webserver bug or similar.. they can't just remote own a computer
[22:01] <soundray> marylou: it seems that your chipset is not supported for reading out temperatures
[22:01] <soundray> marylou: you can try mbmon, but you may have to get by without temperature readouts
[22:02] <soundray> Flannel: if acpi -V doesn't work, this won't either, will it?
[22:02] <marylou> soundray: Thanks a lot. It's a fairly new mobo, so I'm betting that acpi is merely disabled.
[22:02] <StYX> dep: not too sure about the exact type as it only says "hp embedded smart array sata raid ich7". seems to be an adaptec controller telling by the copyright msg
[22:02] <cbx33> Slart true
[22:02] <cbx33> but still pretty scary
[22:02] <soundray> !info mbmon | marylou
[22:02] <ubotu> marylou: mbmon (source: xmbmon): Hardware monitoring without kernel dependencies (text client). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.05-5 (gutsy), package size 68 kB, installed size 208 kB (Only available for i386 hurd-i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 knetbsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[22:03] <marylou> soundray: I'm going to see if acpi is disabled in the BIOs. Thanks for your help! Take care
[22:03] <screenname92834> hee heehello
[22:03] <soundray> marylou: if it's a new board, you may have to wait for the release of hardy
[22:03] <baal> hi
[22:03] <screenname92834> guess what?
[22:03] <VanDyke> should check for smart reporting
[22:03] <screenname92834> I fixed my problem
[22:03] <screenname92834> I remembered that in a moment of paranoia I installed firestarter
[22:03] <[adw]> so, trying to make apache2 and mysql start manually, instead of automatic on boot, anyone know?
[22:03] <ahave> could someone explain to me why I am unable to gain an IP from my AP? (no security)
[22:03] <baal> anyone installed e-uae ? is there a Synaptic install ?
[22:03] <screenname92834> It's a firewall. So I switched it off (i've no idea what it does anyway) and tada!
[22:03] <Slart> cbx33: indeed... sooo many bad php-scripts out there....
[22:04] <screenname92834> I can connect to ubuntu again
[22:04] <Darkmystere_> Does anyone know why when i turn my card back to mode managed it turns to ath1 instead of ath0?
[22:04] <soundray> ahave: perhaps your AP doesn't have a DHCP server running?
[22:04] <dep> StYX: I'm trying to look up more information on the raid controller at the moment, it might be a bit
[22:04] <screenname92834> ubuntu.com is now giving me  my packages
[22:04] <ahave> soundray, my laptop is using it now
[22:04] <ahave> soundray, and i can obtain a list of dhcp clients
[22:04] <screenname92834> mind, there's one thing I'd like to ask  about
[22:04] <Darkmystere_> Also i cant seem to get it to connect to my Secured 2Wire Router..
[22:05] <ahave> soundray, and what is odd is that i can see my ubuntu box on there twice. one for ethernet one for wireless perhaps?
[22:05] <screenname92834> when using synaptics I got this warning message saying "software can not be authenticated".
[22:05] <screenname92834> Like what does that mean?
[22:05] <FolkeY> Does anyone have any experience of installing hamachi on ubuntu? I could use some help since i really can't get it to work... (Pretty new on linux ;) )
[22:05] <ADHDYoshi> Can't dd just copy a partition exactly with the same size?
[22:05] <Slart> screenname92834: you're using some external repos without having the key for them
[22:05] <screenname92834> Where is it getting this software from anyway? and what kind of authentication does it expect?
[22:05] <dep> StYX: do an 'lsmod | grep adpahci' and tell me if you have the adpahci driver loaded
[22:05] <StYX> dep: thanks. and helpful link would be fine. browsed the forum already but couldn't find anything helpful, only someone with the same prob
[22:05] <StYX> dep: will so, one sec
[22:05] <screenname92834> Do I need to install a key?
[22:06] <Neochick> WHOOT
[22:06] <Slart> screenname92834: yes.. there is usually a line with wget ....  that you run to add the key to your system
[22:06] <soundray> ahave: some wireless chipsets are finicky. Have you tried your Ubuntu setup with another AP?
[22:06]  * Neochick loves her ubuntu again
[22:06] <Darkmystere_> ADHDYoshi, If you use dd be sure to backup any information on that partion thats where it got its name "dd=Data Destroyer"
[22:06] <gub> hooray!
[22:06] <ahave> soundray, no i have not
[22:06] <Slart> screenname92834: have you added any repos lately?
[22:06] <Darkmystere_> !dd > ADHDYoshi
[22:06] <Goosemoose> i just accidented deleted a folder, how can i undo it?
[22:06] <Darkmystere_> !dd
[22:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:06] <Goosemoose> i used rm -rfd
[22:06] <Darkmystere_> hmm..
[22:06] <Darkmystere_> !DD
[22:07] <soundray> ahave: what's your wireless chipset?
[22:07] <ahave> soundray, could this be a driver issue? i have  realtek 8187 chipset
[22:07] <Goosemoose> i accidently deleted a folder rm -rfd folder
[22:07] <Neochick> once i moved the screen thing around so i could see it wanted me to type thingsi could to the xserver-xorg thing ^^
[22:07] <Goosemoose> how can i undo?
[22:07]  * Neochick has learned something today
[22:07] <screenname92834> slart: I don't know
[22:07] <usr_rob> i can mount NFS export in terminal, but not by the fstab, anyone?
[22:07] <luca_> i try to run and configure Dnsmasq on my machine now ... and i dont know what nameserver i need to enter i n/etc/resolv.conf its the primary dns from my isp ?
[22:08] <StYX> dep: not loaded
[22:08] <pingu> hey guys this isn't really ubuntu related but it is computer related. how can you put a password on just a normal folder or do you have to use a different type of folder or something
[22:08] <Slart> screenname92834: what's in your /etc/apt/sources.list ? pastebin it?
[22:08] <yoluca> any idea ?
[22:08] <ADHDYoshi> -_-;
[22:08] <screenname92834> slart: So  let me get this right: every repo will sign its output, and if you have its key, you can verify the source of your package?
[22:09] <StYX> dep: i'm checking this from export mode - execute a shell. is that correct?
[22:09] <soundray> !gpg | pingu
[22:09] <ubotu> pingu: gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[22:09] <Slart> pingu: I don't think you can do that on regular vanilla ubuntu... there are probably something you can install to enable it though
[22:09] <screenname92834> I'll get etc/apt/sources out.
[22:09] <Slart> screenname92834: that's how I understand it
[22:09] <DIL> pingu, try PGP
[22:09] <sixstorm> what's the latest on the Intel X3100 chipset?  any users here?
[22:09] <secleinteer> http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/02/10/2011257 <-- are you guys serious?!!!!!
[22:09] <DIL> sorry soundray
[22:10] <secleinteer> how did a root exploit make it into a final release?!!!
[22:10] <simps> Is there a way to login to gnome desktop via SSH?
[22:10] <screenname92834> slart so the risk is that someone can impersonate a repo by cutting wires on the 'net somewhere? right?
[22:10] <Starnestommy> secleinteer: it was just recently discovered, I think
[22:10] <Slart> screenname92834: well.. I don't know if there is a risk.. but someone thought about it anyway.. =)
[22:10] <secleinteer> Starnestommy: it's been on /. for 47 mins now, should've been fixed already....
[22:11] <Slart> screenname92834: but that's the scenario that it's supposed to prevent I guess
[22:11] <screenname92834> slart: indeed.
[22:11] <dep> StYX: The problem is that the driver you need is called 'adpahci', and as far as I can tell it is not open source. HP seems to have released it for RHEL, but I haven't found source anywhere yet, still looking but you might be out of luck for that raid device
[22:11] <Starnestommy> secleinteer: it takes a while for new things to get packaged up.
[22:11] <screenname92834> slart: but how can I verify that I have the right key when I get it?
[22:11] <secleinteer> Starnestommy: this seems a bit urgent...
[22:11] <baal> any one installed e-uae amiga emulator on ubuntu ?
[22:11] <dmarsa> secleinteer, are you running a network?
[22:11] <Starnestommy> secleinteer: it'll still take a while
[22:12] <Slart> screenname92834: well... we could always compare keys.. then they'd have to fool us both
[22:12] <secleinteer> dmarsa: no, but i have people that have ssh axx to my box...
[22:12] <simps> Is there a way to login to gnome desktop via SSH?
[22:12] <StYX> dep: telling from the forum installation seems to work with some v6 release of ubunto. but seems they used a different raid controller then
[22:12] <secleinteer> and why is firefox being updated to 2.0.0.12 when there is a directory scaling exploit in it?
[22:12] <Slart> screenname92834: but basically, if someone's setup a false repo then you'd get the the false repos's key too..
[22:12] <screenname92834> slart: but it seems to me that the key only verifies that you are connected to the same repo as last time.
[22:12] <Slart> screenname92834: correct
[22:12] <screenname92834> good-oh
[22:12] <dmarsa> block ssh port. problem solved :P
[22:12] <secleinteer> screenname92834: that's what IRL gpg keysigning parties are for
[22:12] <screenname92834> now I need to look at etc/something
[22:13] <screenname92834> secleinteer: you've lost me I'm  afraid
[22:13] <Slart> screenname92834: take a look at this page.. they describe how to add the key first.. then the repo  http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[22:13] <elwo0d> hi all
[22:13] <Slart> screenname92834: that's basically how it looks on all repos I've used
[22:13] <hdevalence-> What does Buffer I/O error on device sda3, logical block 19929674 mean?
[22:13] <dimedo> does anyone know how to start gnome-terminal windows with custom window title? (--name= doesn't seem to work)
[22:13] <secleinteer> screenname92834: IRL GPG keysigning parties are used to ensure the prevention of impersonation
[22:13] <screenname92834> ok I'll look it up. Back in a mo.
[22:14] <elwo0d> when i put my hd in standby with hdparm it quickly wake up in a second..it's a known issue?
[22:14] <loa> how i can see process tree?
[22:14] <soundray> hdevalence-: bad news. Is it a hard disk?
[22:14] <Ashfire> sometimes after using my computer for awhile, my sound card will act up and aplay/speaker-test/etc will fail to play sound, with a decive busy error. (other programs appear not to be effected). restarting fixes the problem, but is there a way to fix it with the computer staying on?
[22:14] <Clinteger> how large is a normal server installation?
[22:14] <hdevalence-> soundray: yeah
[22:14] <Slart> secleinteer: but as a regular user I can't verify that the key I get from the repo webpage is the correct one..
[22:14] <secleinteer> screenname92834: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_signing_party
[22:14] <BIOSboiler_> hi
[22:14] <soundray> hdevalence-: rescue your data and distrust that disk.
[22:14] <screenname92834> whilst I'm here tho I will just say that I am so so so totally impressed with my laptop (which only cost 320 quid) and ubuntu
[22:15] <screenname92834> and all the free software you can get for it.
[22:15] <secleinteer> Slart: that's why you have to meet the person IRL and get their pgp key...
[22:15] <Siph0n> hey... did anyone hear about this? http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/02/10/2011257
[22:15] <simps> Is there a way to login to gnome desktop via SSH?
[22:15] <Siph0n> or anyone know what vmsplice is?
[22:15] <Cpudan80> simps: X tunneling?
[22:15] <simps> Cpudan80, i dunno what that means ;x
[22:15] <amenado> screenname92834-> maybe you can donate to the needy what you have saved? :)
[22:15] <Slart> Siph0n: yes.. heard about it.. it's bad I guess
[22:15] <secleinteer> Siph0n: yeah, i'm hecka pissed about it right now
[22:15] <Cpudan80> simps: ssh -X server machine
[22:15] <hdevalence-> soundray: it's a hardware problem?
[22:15] <screenname92834> and it's all free!! anything you want, download it, and it's free (and doesn't work).
[22:16] <Cpudan80> simps: ex. ssh -X 192.168.1.177
[22:16] <screenname92834> amenado: I sponsor an elephant in kenya. Howzat?
[22:16] <soundray> hdevalence-: yes, until proven otherwise.
[22:16] <greentea> I need help on virtual box i recieve a error
[22:16] <elwo0d> is a bug? upgrading to hdparm hardy version will help?
[22:16] <dep> StYX: still looking through HP's notes, as a side note I dislike HP
[22:16] <amenado> simps and then gnome-session &  to get the desktop remoted to yours
[22:16] <Cpudan80> simps: That will allow you to load up applications with GUIs
[22:16] <BIOSboiler_> so if i plug in a usb device and then unplug it, where would the log for this be?
[22:16] <soundray> hdevalence-: when you've saved your data, you can experiment with S.M.A.R.T. testing etc.
[22:16] <screenname92834> anyway, I'm off to get some tea.
[22:16] <Slart> BIOSboiler_: check dmesg.. or /var/log/syslog
[22:17] <Cpudan80> simps: You may want to consider VNC over SSH
[22:17] <StYX> dep: found some notes about that driver as well. looks like closed source and available for suse and redhat only
[22:17] <greentea> I need help on virtual box i recieve a error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55531/
[22:17] <hdevalence-> soundray: dmesg gives me a bunch of stuff about sda Result: hostbyte=DID_BAD_TARGET driverbye=DRIVER_OK,SUGGEST_OK
[22:17] <hdevalence-> and I'm hearing funny noises
[22:17] <amenado> BIOSboiler-> dmesg gets log to /var/log/messages
[22:18] <soundray> hdevalence-: better bin that disk.
[22:18] <StYX> dep: i'd do software raid but i already tried to install just on a single disk for a test. creating the root fs always freezes at 33%. so looks like using ahci only without radi is also not working realiable
[22:18] <BIOSboiler> what does dmesg stand for?
[22:18] <secleinteer> BIOSboiler: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmesg
[22:18] <simps> Cpudan80, i'm trying to do that :P except i can't do it if it's not logged in. also, how would i use a different port because i didn't set ssh to the default port
[22:19] <Cpudan80> simps: you didnt set SSH to the default port?
[22:19] <Cpudan80> Why?
[22:19] <secleinteer> BIOSboiler: it prints the kernel ring buffer
[22:19] <Cpudan80> simps: ssh -p 1234 -X server
[22:19] <amenado> simps and you may want to add -C option to compress
[22:19] <Cpudan80> simps: You need to follow a specific set of instructions to get VNC to work without being logged in... those are at... ehhh hang on
[22:20] <Cpudan80> simps: http://www.movingtofreedom.org/2007/02/16/howto-remote-desktop-with-vnc-in-ubuntu-edgy-gnu-linux/
[22:20] <pine> setting ssh to other port than 22 is good pretection against automated login attacks
[22:20] <Cpudan80> simps: works in gutsy
[22:20] <secleinteer> ya it is
[22:20] <Ashfire908> sometimes after using my computer for awhile, my sound card will act up and aplay/speaker-test/etc will fail to play sound, with a decive busy error. (other programs appear not to be effected). restarting fixes the problem, but is there a way to fix it with the computer staying on?
[22:20] <Cpudan80> simps: except gdm is no under etc/gdm/ (instead of /etc/X11/gdm
[22:20] <dep> StYX: hmmm did you set the controller to act as JBOD before you tried to install?
[22:20] <yoluca> sudo echo server1.example.com > /etc/hostname   >>> bash: /etc/hostname: Permission denied
[22:20] <yoluca> why ?
[22:21] <pingu> how do i run a check on my external hard drive i think its failing/dieing
[22:21] <StYX> dep: does jbod means "no raid"? :) if it's "raid disabled" then yes
[22:21] <simps> Cpudan80, i shall read that article now
[22:21] <soundray> yoluca: because sudo doesn't act on the redirection. try echo server1.example.com | sudo tee /etc/hostname
[22:22] <secleinteer> StYX: jbod==just a bunch of disks
[22:22] <elwo0d> someone knows why i can't put my hd on standby mode?
[22:22] <secleinteer> no raid
[22:22] <dep> StYX: sorry, jbod = just a bunch of disks, yeah, raid disabled =) hmmm
[22:22] <secleinteer> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JBOD#Concatenation_.28JBOD_or_SPAN.29
[22:22] <pingu> how do i run a check on my external hard drive i think its failing/dieing
[22:22] <Cpudan80> simps: at the end, ssh to the server first (with -X) then do the vncviewer localhost thing
[22:23] <VanDyke> some usb enclosures allow for smart reporting, pingu
[22:23] <Slart> pingu: fsck
[22:23] <pine> fsck -t ext3 /dev/sda1
[22:23] <pine> pingu
[22:23] <hello_> slt
[22:24] <amenado> the concept of LVM, one creates the raid before putting LVM on top right?
[22:24] <soundray> pingu: look at smartmontools as well
[22:24] <Clusty> hey guys
[22:24] <Clusty> is there some fix for this bug: ?http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=464953
[22:24] <Backdraft> Yo peeps I am having issues running firefox from xterm when typing "firefox" its in /usr/local/bin/firefox
[22:24] <amenado> or raid has to use LVM ?
[22:25] <Clusty> its quite bad
[22:25] <yoluca> soundray thanks
[22:25] <Backdraft> What do I needa do to get it working so I can type "firefox" and it will work?
[22:25] <Large_o> Evening guys
[22:25] <furytho1> Hello. I have problem with Java, I can't get applications as firefox or opera to use latest version. How I do that
[22:26] <ADHDYoshi> Oh yeah, in the Update Manager
[22:26] <thiemster> ubuntu forums passed 500,000 members a minute ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[22:26] <Backdraft> furytho1 they using the plugin?
[22:26] <ikonia> thiemster: how is that relevant here - please keep on topic
[22:26] <mateusz> Does Ubuntu have ThinkFinger packages?
[22:26] <ADHDYoshi> It says that I need to upgrade the newest version of compiz-core to the newest version
[22:26] <ADHDYoshi> and when I do, it's still there >_>
[22:26] <dep> StYX: yeah, the driver for that embedded raid device is closed source and I can't find any open source projects working on it. This is likely because the driver just implements most of the raid in software and you wont get much performance gain from a driver that uses the device
[22:26] <pingu> what does this mean There are differences between boot sector and its backup.
[22:26] <pingu> Differences: (offset:original/backup)
[22:26] <Chri2> I think this is the right place to ask, i've just tried installing ubuntu, and when i try to boot from Hard disk, i get an error message "GRUB Error 18" 1. Is it possible to fix? 2. If not, how do i remove GRUB?
[22:26] <Stevethepirate> Anyone know how to make a pc with ssh accept connections, using ssh, that tunnel through a proxy?
[22:26] <amenado> Backdraft-> what happens when you do type that full path on the xterm?
[22:26] <bin_d> i installed ubuntu and then vista. i lost the bootloader, so i ran sudo grub via a ubuntu live cd. i used: root (hd0,0) and setup (hd0). now i lost vista. how do i add them to the bootloader menu? (vista?).
[22:26] <furytho1> Backdraft I did download latest version from Sun website, and followed instrctions, now applications just do not see it...
[22:27] <StYX> dep: i've used win on this server before. disk i/o is a pain anyway on that box :)
[22:27] <Backdraft> Anemado it works
[22:27] <Slart> pingu: I think ext2, extx3 keeps a backup of the boot sector somewhere else on the drive.. they should be the same.. if they are not.. something has changed one of them.. it's usually bad
[22:27] <StYX> dep: i'll try to get it to work with a linux software raid then
[22:27] <Backdraft> Furttho1 you needa install the plugin into firefox/opera then it will start working
[22:27] <pingu> Slart, it a NTFS disk
[22:27] <Stevethepirate> Anyone know how to make a pc with ssh accept connections, using ssh, that tunnel through a proxy?
[22:27] <amenado> Backdraft-> so what was the issue?
[22:27] <furytho1> how I do that ?
[22:27] <Slart> pingu: perhaps ntfs does the same
[22:27] <Backdraft> I wanna be lazy and type firefox
[22:27] <dep> StYX: sounds good, best of luck
[22:27] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: ssh listens on the same port - it doesn't care what incoming connections come from
[22:27] <thiemster> ikonia: sorry, i just thought it was a really big deal
[22:28] <Backdraft> Like I can do on openbsd and freebsd
[22:28] <ikonia> thiemster: not really
[22:28] <pingu> Slart, should I copy the original to the back up or the other way around?
[22:28] <anon2871> hey
[22:28] <Micheru> Hello all. I want to make a startup script, But I have never done it before. The command i want to run is "x11vnc -display :0 -rfbport 5907 -repeat -forever -nobell -xrandr -shared -cursor most  -alwaysshared -bg". How would i do this?
[22:28] <Flannel> mateusz: check thinkwiki for all details
[22:28] <StYX> dep: many thanks for your help
[22:28] <Lord> oi
[22:28] <amenado> Backdraft-> ahh you put that first in the $PATH
[22:28] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: Well, i basically need to make ssh act as a proxy.
[22:28] <pine> Chri2, grub is the boot loader, u need it to boot, dont remove it
[22:28] <bin_d> i installed ubuntu and then vista. i lost the bootloader, so i ran sudo grub via a ubuntu live cd. i used: root (hd0,0) and setup (hd0). now i lost vista. how do i add them to the bootloader menu? (vista?).
[22:28] <Slart> pingu: I have no idea.. which one do you think is broken? =)
[22:28] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: ok - thats different,  you need to do ssh tunneling
[22:28] <soundray> Micheru: add it to /etc/rc.local
[22:28] <bin_d> how can i find the name of the partition i installed vista?
[22:28] <dmarsa> bin_d you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:28] <visualdeception> furytho1: http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=53648&stc=1&d=1198033466
[22:28] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: Exactly.
[22:28] <NineTails> sup?
[22:28] <Backdraft> export PATH???
[22:28] <Slart> pingu: look here .. some info about this http://bootmaster.filerecovery.biz/appnote3.html
[22:28] <bin_d> dmarsa, how can i find the name of the partition?
[22:28] <pingu> Slart, i have no idea I don't untherstand it very well
[22:28] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: there is a guide on help.ubuntu.com
[22:29] <bin_d> i am already editing menu.lst .
[22:29] <anon2871> can anyone here tell me how to change the default media player ? I've gone through the preferred applications but for whatever reasoning it isn't detecting I'm running amarok
[22:29] <NineTails> out of interest
[22:29] <GLORY> is this the ubuntu help channel?
[22:29] <Micheru> soundray: how? i don't know the syntax, or is it just a text file with the command in it?
[22:29] <ikonia> GLORY: sure
[22:29] <Backdraft> GLORY thats what I hear
[22:29] <pine> Chri2, when i have installation problems I usally try another inst cd, burn another one, form diff mirror
[22:29] <amenado> Backdraft-> yeah..have that path to firefox as the 1st in order of search
[22:29] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: Unfortunately. I am capped. I can't access the internet. Without this tunnel :(
[22:29] <GLORY> heh, i'm new to all this and i just need help w/ stuff
[22:29] <Seven_Six_Two> what is the correct directory to place a ".o" input module?
[22:29] <Backdraft> amenado cool
[22:29] <pine> Chri2, And let it install grub for you
[22:29] <screenname92834> I'm back
[22:29] <Slart> pingu: can't say I do either.. but a boot sector isn't that hard to replace.. even if it's broken
[22:29] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: how are you accessing this channel then
[22:29] <soundray> Micheru: have a look at that file. It should be obvious what to do. You may have to add a & at the end of your command
[22:29] <screenname92834> let's all celebrate
[22:29] <AHemlocksLie> I'm trying to install my graphics card's drivers through the command line, but I can't remember how to anymore. Does anyone remember the command(s) to run the .run file?
[22:29] <bin_d> how can i find the name of the partition i installed vista?
[22:29] <screenname92834> I see what a keysigning party is anyway.
[22:29] <dmarsa> bin_d you don't need it... according to mine anyway. just title vista, root (hd0,0), savedefault, makeactive, chainloader +1
[22:30] <dep> GLORY: just describe your problem in detail and we'll help you
[22:30] <Stevethepirate> I have access to a local server, which has access to the internet on all non port 80 ports.
[22:30] <dmarsa> hmmmmm
[22:30] <dmarsa> oh
[22:30] <screenname92834> you don't really need 'parties' however.
[22:30] <Micheru> soundray: ah its a file not a path, thanks
[22:30] <visualdeception> AHemlocksLie: ./file.run
[22:30] <bin_d> dmarsa, hd0,0 is linux
[22:30] <bin_d> or not?
[22:30] <dmarsa> i see that
[22:30] <dmarsa> it is
[22:30] <AHemlocksLie> visualdeception: thanks
[22:30] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: your tunnel will still need access to a box that has connection to the internet on port 80 so tha tyou forward say port 123 on your box to 80 on the other
[22:30] <visualdeception> AHemlocksLie: but you need to right click on it and select properties to make sure you can run it
[22:30] <dmarsa> my partitioning is different
[22:30] <dmarsa> sorry
[22:30] <dmarsa> well
[22:30] <screenname92834> the principle is that presence A will verify that B's key is b, so if you are SURE you have A's key, and trust him,
[22:30] <dmarsa> is your hdd sata?
[22:30] <bin_d> np
[22:31] <bin_d> i think
[22:31] <screenname92834> then you have B's key b as well
[22:31] <GLORY> well i had it where i had somewhat of desktop effects, and now once i try the med the desktop effects cannont be enabled
[22:31] <screenname92834> so I expect you can get a bunch of keys off B as well etc.
[22:31] <pine> ubuntu users ! If ya want a great dc++ client  !!!!!
[22:31] <dover19> is there a way to "move" the display to the left, right, up or down?
[22:31] <GLORY> i believe it's from after all the updates it told me to download...
[22:31] <ikonia> pine: we don't
[22:31] <dmarsa> it's irrelevant actually
[22:31] <pine> search for linuxdcpp
[22:31] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: I can, in links on this box, set the proxy of it to like, 203.160.1.146:553, which is a free and anonymous proxy.
[22:31] <soundray> Micheru: have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/x11vnc ?
[22:31] <pine> in synaptic
[22:31] <screenname92834> anyway, here is a basic question for you
[22:31] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: use that proxy with firefox
[22:31] <screenname92834> don't all shout at once.
[22:32] <ikonia> pine we know about that client thanks
[22:32] <Micheru> soundray: no why?
[22:32] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: It won't let me.
[22:32] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: what won't
[22:32] <pine> well so u speak for everyone, no u dont
[22:32] <pine> do
[22:32] <soundray> Micheru: if you had, you might not have had to ask that question.
[22:32] <dmarsa> bin_d, what i meant is you installed on one hdd right? and you created a swap partition and just a root (/) partition?
[22:32] <screenname92834> Does ubuntu put a whole load of system files in /etc in a way that you can see, whereas  windows hides such system files
[22:32] <ikonia> pine: no one has asked for a client - so just spouting stuff randomly in the channel is of no help
[22:32] <Stevethepirate> The firewall checks to see what IP is connecting to it, this server I am on can use external proxies, I cannot.
[22:32] <furytho1> so who can help me with that Java problem ?
[22:33] <dep> GLORY: What version of Ubuntu are you running? Also, does the error give any more information?
[22:33] <amenado> furytho1-> what is the issue?
[22:33] <bin_d> dmarsa, i created 2 partitions. 1 for linux 1 for vista
[22:33] <screenname92834> To put that another way, if you alter files in /etc are you going to f*** your ubuntu system?
[22:33] <nickrud> screenname92834: yes, very much so. You can see all the files, and locations thereof, with dpkg -L packagename
[22:33] <pine> jesus, go tell your mom or something
[22:33] <bin_d> i installed ubuntu and then vista
[22:33] <visualdeception> furytho1: http://linux.dudenhofer.net/wordpress/?p=6
[22:33] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: then I suggest you contact yous ISP, I'm not going to help you bypass our isp
[22:33] <guci22> join #ubuntu
[22:33] <GLORY> how's come when i put on XGL i can't login?
[22:33] <nickrud> screenname92834: always recoverable
[22:33] <ikonia> pine: just respect the channels rules
[22:33] <Ashfire908> is there a program that can resume sftp downloads? (besides gFTP, that downloads really slow.)
[22:33] <Micheru> soundray: i simply didn't think of it, and i was already on freenode.
[22:33] <guci22> i need help with virtualbox addins
[22:33] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: Its not an ISP, its my university network.
[22:33] <furytho1> I can't get java to work on either opera or firefox, i get error that I need later version than I currently have
[22:33] <guci22> can anybody help
[22:33] <dmarsa> yes bin_d but did you let ubuntu automatically partition for you?
[22:33] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: ok, I'm not going to help you bypass your uni network
[22:33] <dmarsa> during the install
[22:33] <sebrock> is it possible to use 'dump' or 'tar' to backup a mounted filesystem, also run the command from this filesystem?
[22:33] <nickrud> !asj guci22
[22:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asj guci22 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:33] <amenado> furytho1-> what is the exact error?
[22:33] <bin_d> dmarsa, no, i created a /root partition
[22:33] <nickrud> !ask | guci22
[22:33] <ubotu> guci22: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[22:33] <Stevethepirate> I would normally use 2 tinyproxies, but I cannot at the moment
[22:34] <RoboCop> where can i find pcre.h . what package has it?
[22:34] <davied101> is there any working software like iTunes in linux?
[22:34] <Seven_Six_Two> I'm trying to install a tablet driver for X under 7.04 and the instructions say to put the newly compiled module in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/ or whatever the correct path is for your distro. is there a different correct path for ubuntu?
[22:34] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: Its not like that. This PC i _can_ use on upper campus.
[22:34] <dmarsa> bin_d, you also created a swap partition, correct?
[22:34] <nickrud> !find pcre.h | RoboCop
[22:34] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: so use it
[22:34] <Slart> davied101: amarok has some of the features itunes has
[22:34] <Stevethepirate> Its just I don't want to walk up there.
[22:34] <bin_d> dmarsa, i think, yes
[22:34] <GLORY> when i download server-xgl from sypnatic package manager, how's come i can't login?
[22:34] <visualdeception> RoboCop: in terminal type whereis pcre.h
[22:34] <ubotu> robocop: File pcre.h found in caudium, kannel-dev, libpcre3-dev, libsfs0c2-dev, php5-dev (and 2 others)
[22:34] <Stevethepirate> Its like.. 2 km's away.
[22:34] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: I'm not helping you bypass the uni
[22:34] <screenname92834> is the /etc directory anything like the registry in windows?
[22:34] <GLORY> anyone?
[22:34] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: Fine.
[22:34] <dmarsa> well bin_d, my best guess is hd0,2
[22:34] <Stevethepirate> Whatever.
[22:34] <Slart> screenname92834: kind of.
[22:35] <pine> some moderators think they are gods or something
[22:35] <Slart> screenname92834: it's a folder where almost all applications keep their settings.. including system stuff
[22:35] <bin_d> hmmm
[22:35] <soundray> screenname92834: not at all. It's a directory containing mostly plain text configuration files.
[22:35] <GLORY> oh
[22:35] <nickrud> screenname92834: no, it's easily readable and alterable
[22:35] <GLORY> dep how do i check
[22:35] <dover19> has anyone ever had any "screen resolution" issues
[22:35] <screenname92834> why don't they hide this directory /etc so it doesn't confuse people like me?
[22:35] <dmarsa> if you do have a sata drive you can 'ls -l /dev/sd*' and see what partitions are there.
[22:35] <Slart> pine: do you have a question about ubuntu?
[22:35] <GLORY> dep it's one of the new one's that i know of..
[22:35] <nickrud> screenname92834: you can
[22:35] <dmarsa> otherwise 'ls -l /dev/hd*' for an ide drive
[22:35] <ikonia> Slart: no - he just randomly spouts stuff.
[22:35] <Slart> screenname92834: hide it? why.. what did you do? delete it? =)
[22:35] <amenado> screenname92834-> just get yourself not to be confused
[22:35] <pine> no im here to help people, so stop acting like you are someone
[22:35] <screenname92834> I mean, I'd be inclined to delete /etc because it's beyond me.
[22:35] <furytho1> amenado I did put taht error to private message.
[22:35] <anon2871> can anyone tell me how I can make amarok my default app for downloads through firefox ?
[22:36] <nickrud> 't write there by accident, and it's visible so you can see what is configured. A feature :)
[22:36] <dep> GLORY: go to the System menu, then click on "About Ubuntu" for the version
[22:36] <soundray> pine: I can't see you helping anyone -- just spouting offtopic stuff.
[22:36] <amenado> furytho1-> no private messages...use the pastebin
[22:36] <GLORY> Thank you for your interest in Ubuntu 7.10
[22:36] <GLORY>                 - the Gutsy Gibbon - released in October 2007. dep
[22:36] <GLORY> i have gnome on here also.. is that a problem? idk
[22:36]  * nickrud has always though ikonia and soundray were someones ;)
[22:36] <screenname92834> so how do you hide it?
[22:36] <ikonia> nickrud: your wrong ;)
[22:37] <pine> well i need to defend my self against bashing mods, .
[22:37] <amenado> screenname92834-> are you serious? want to experiment?
[22:37] <Slart> pine: huh? was that directed to me?
[22:37] <hdevalence-> screenname92834: just do all your stuff in /home/username
[22:37] <nickrud> screenname92834: you don't need to look there
[22:37] <CarlFK> I need something like a graphic EQ or graphic level indicator so I can visually tell the difference between noise and silence (or mostly silent- sound card has a faint hum and a bit of crackle
[22:37] <soundray> nickrud: actually, I'm anyone.
[22:37] <dep> GLORY: gnome is the desktop environment, it provides the menus and visual desktop you see. Ok, so you tried to install xserver-xgl and things stopped working, right?
[22:37] <nalioth> if it's not ubuntu support talk, it doesn't belong here.  #ubuntu-offtopic exists for non-support discussions
[22:37] <greentea> How do i get compiz fusion and update verison gt ????
[22:37] <Slart> screenname92834: as a regular user you can't delete /etc.. afaik
[22:37] <ikonia> pine it's a busy channel, just try to keep it to answer questiongs, not spounting random stuff
[22:37] <GLORY> correct dep
[22:37] <nickrud> screenname92834: anymore than you need to look at what's in /Program Files
[22:37] <guci22> I am using virtualbox and I am trying to install the virtualbox addons. when I run the ".run" file it says I don't have admin privileges. When I installed ubuntu I put my current user/pass as the admin account. How do I install the addons?
[22:38] <Micheru> ikonia: he's gone
[22:38] <screenname92834> just experimenting really. I do think they could've called /etc something sensible like /system
[22:38] <ikonia> Micheru: missed that
[22:38] <ikonia> Micheru: thank you
[22:38] <Slart> screenname92834: no amount of hiding stuff will keep people from trashing their computer when they use sudo.. that's kind of the point =)
[22:38]  * guci22 is mad
[22:38] <ahave> could someone help me with compiling and inserting drivers with ubuntu? http://rtl-wifi.sourceforge.net/wiki/Installing#Debian.2FUbuntu
[22:38] <Micheru> ikonia: no problem
[22:38] <furytho1> here
[22:38] <furytho1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55537/
[22:38]  * amenado hands guci22 and ice cream cone..here lick em ..hehe
[22:39] <yoluca> how do i run the nvidia setup from terminal ?
[22:39] <LiENUS> hooray for ubuntu lts
[22:39] <ikonia> yoluca: you don't
[22:39] <sebrock> if I tar backup my whoel filesystem, does it matter if its mounted or not?
[22:39] <ikonia> yoluca: use the nvidia-glx package
[22:39] <LiENUS> no vmsplice to exploit :D
[22:39] <dover19> does ubuntu have issues with lcd monitors, or maybe certain brands?
[22:39] <Seveas> !offtopic | LiENUS
[22:39] <j_> How do i get compiz fusion and update verison gt ????
[22:39] <ubotu> LiENUS: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:39] <guci22> could someone help me with virtualbox addons (i am running ubuntu in windows vista)
[22:39] <Slart> screenname92834: I think those folder names are really old.. from before regular people used computers... google for linux folder hierarchy or sometihng similar.. lots of nice info on that
[22:39] <furytho1> I did already follow link which leads to http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
[22:39] <Seveas> !compiz | j_
[22:39] <ubotu> j_: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[22:39] <csc`> is it possible to override the 'System Partition needs to be formatted' in the installer?
[22:39] <yoluca> i need to ikonia ... x failed to start ... im in ternimal ONLY
[22:39] <soundray> dover19: no
[22:39] <hdevalence-> screenname92834: if you want, you can look up something called the Filesystem Heirarchy Standard; it has the reasons behind what goes in /etc, what goes in /var, what goes in /usr ,etc etc
[22:39] <Seveas> furytho1, apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[22:39] <screenname92834> slart: good idea.
[22:39] <LiENUS> Seveas, ubuntu lts is offtopic?
[22:39] <ikonia> yoluca: you don't need to
[22:39] <nickrud> guci22: it would be   sudo /path/to/runfile
[22:39] <ikonia> yoluca: what card do you have
[22:40] <Slart> dover19: not that I know of.. ubuntu can be tricky to setup properly when using X.. if that's what you mean
[22:40] <Seveas> LiENUS, vmsplice attacks are.
[22:40] <j_> seveas is it this kind http://youtube.com/watch?v=g2U0V0RvCLM
[22:40] <screenname92834> hdevalence-: I'll put it on my list of things to do.
[22:40] <dep> GLORY: ok, possibly insulting question, but I need to know: did you restart your machine yet?
[22:40] <yoluca> ikonia, nvidia 7900
[22:40] <kane77> why isn't icecat/iceweasel in repositories?
[22:40] <LiENUS> Seveas, security is offtopic?
[22:40] <LiENUS> wow thats scary
[22:40] <GLORY> multiple times dep
[22:40] <dover19> soundray: any idea why my display would be too much to the right? basically, on the left side of my monitor theres a vertical black line thats about....1o pixels wide i guess
[22:40] <guci22> nickrud: what if it is on a cd
[22:40] <ikonia> yoluca: isn't that covered by the nvidia-glx-new package
[22:40] <GLORY> usually after every time i install something.. dep
[22:40] <tass1412> i think i got an ugly problem... compiz is loaded, but no animations take place (i know it's loaded because i set some other hotkeys in compiz than in metacity, and these work)
[22:40] <dover19> so my display starts too far to the right
[22:40] <yoluca> ikonia, i need to reconfigure x...something like dpkg nvidia-reconfig
[22:40] <dep> GLORY: k thanks. But the login screen comes up, and you can't login?
[22:40] <ikonia> yoluca: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[22:40] <Slart> dover19: can't you adjust that on the monitor itself? auto button?
[22:40] <nickrud> guci22: same thing, the cdrom has a path. Most likely /media/cdrom/runfile
[22:40] <Seveas> LiENUS, this is a support channel. Discussing root exploits isn't support
[22:40] <GLORY> yes.. i try to log in and it wont let me..
[22:41] <dover19> doesnt seam to do anything
[22:41] <amenado> dover19-> then adjust your lcd,
[22:41] <yoluca> ikonia, it is ... i have that installed already ... i need to REconfigure it
[22:41] <GLORY> i ahve to go into the other version and uninstall it dep..
[22:41] <ikonia> yoluca: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[22:41] <GLORY> then i get back into here...
[22:41] <dep> GLORY: what does it say specifically? Bad password?
[22:41] <GLORY> no... it doesn't say anything.. just goes back to the login screen
[22:41] <AHemlocksLie> Something's way off. The left like 3 inches on my monitor aren't being used. It's not off center, it's just pretending that part doesn't exist, so my widescreen resolution is crammed into what I'm guessing is a normal resolution area
[22:41] <dep> GLORY: ok, thanks, gimme a second to look into something
[22:41] <AHemlocksLie> anyone know what might cause that?
[22:41] <yoluca> ikonia, inst there a command for nvidia-glx ?
[22:41] <LiENUS> Seveas, sounds like a narrow definition of support i didnt ask how to run a root exploit
[22:42] <ikonia> yoluca: I've just told you 2 times
[22:42] <guci22> how do I run terminal?
[22:42] <furytho1> so what I need to do get that java plugin to work ?
[22:42] <ikonia> LiENUS: why are you arguing
[22:42] <yoluca> ikonia, ok
[22:42] <ikonia> LiENUS: just get on with support
[22:42] <Slart> !res | AHemlocksLie, look here
[22:42] <ubotu> AHemlocksLie, look here: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[22:42] <LiENUS> Seveas, please follow your own rules
[22:42] <yoluca> ikonia, there is one in debian ...thats why i asked for it
[22:42] <ikonia> yoluca: installthe nvidia-glx-new package and then "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" selecting the nvidia driver
[22:42] <guci22> how do I run terminal?
[22:42] <AHemlocksLie> Slart: It's not just that my resolution's messed up. That'd just make things look funny. It's pretending part of my monitor doesn't exist
[22:42] <norty> I have a question, im trying to share files between unbuntu 7.10 and windows xp, I can see both computers but when i try to copy files from the xp box to the ubuntu box it asks for a password, i put in the password i use to login to th windows xp computer but that doesn't work.. any ideas?
[22:43] <AHemlocksLie> there's a 3 inch black space on the left
[22:43] <nickrud> guci22: apps->accesories->terminal
[22:43] <Seveas> guci22, applications -> accessories -> terminal
[22:43] <Slart> AHemlocksLie: I just figured the modeline might be off or something..
[22:43] <Cromag> norty: maybe samba is the place for you to look
[22:43] <Carbonflux> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/190587
[22:43] <AHemlocksLie> slart: I'll try it, I guess, but I'm not so sure it'll help
[22:43] <Carbonflux> Local root exploit in kernel 2.6.17 - 2.6.24 (vmsplice)
[22:43] <Carbonflux> this looks kind of bad ^
[22:44] <soundray> dover19: go through 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and try different settings in the monitor section. Ideally, find out the hsync and vrefresh rates of your LCD and set those directly (Advanced option)
[22:44] <Slart> AHemlocksLie: what brand is the monitor? model?
[22:44] <dep> GLORY: ok, please open a terminal (command line) and enter this command: 'cat /var/log/messages | grep Fatal' and tell me if there is any output
[22:44] <yoluca> ikonia, yeah got it .... in debian there was no need to run dpkg and select the nvidia driver ... there was a nvidia command which did everything for you ... thanks
[22:44] <LiENUS> Seveas, once again please follow your rules, this is a support chatroom
[22:44] <csc`> =\
[22:44] <Stoffer> !kde4
[22:44] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[22:44] <screenname92834> right here we are then: /etc/apt/source.list contains five items
[22:44] <AHemlocksLie> slart: Uh... it's a ViewSonic 19" widescreen, I think
[22:45] <GLORY> none dep
[22:45] <Slart> screenname92834: ok.. you can skip the regular ubuntu servers.. are there anything else? wine? screenlets?
[22:45] <AHemlocksLie> slart: Not so sure on the size anymore, but I Dunno the model. I got it working just fine on 7.04, so I dunno what the problem is
[22:45] <GLORY> dep, put it in just like this? cat /var/log/messages | grep Fatal
[22:45] <screenname92834> yes here we are: apt.tt-solutions.com/ubuntu/ dapper main
[22:45] <GLORY> ya.. doesn't hav any output
[22:45] <yoluca> ikonia, right .. there is something wrong ... soon the coonfig of xserver-xorg starts the system freeze ... i restarted and now same again ... any idea what can it be ?
[22:45] <csc`> is it possible to override the 'System Partition needs to be formatted' in the installer?
[22:45] <Slart> AHemlocksLie: sounds regular enough... uubuntu autodetect it?
[22:45] <visualdensity> Hi, I've recently installed munin and the uninstalled it via apt-get, but my shutdown and boot sequence shows that Ubuntu is still trying to start the process (but fail, naturally). How do I remove munin from the boot-up process? I'm on Ubuntu 7.10. Thank you.
[22:45] <screenname92834> I've no idea what that is
[22:46] <dep> GLORY: yes, that looks through all of the file messages and looks for anything that has the word 'Fatal' in it
[22:46] <ikonia> yoluca: no idea, things freezing is most commonly bad ram. you may want to reboot to make sure the nvidia module is loaded
[22:46] <nickrud> visualdeception: sudo apt-get remove --purge munin
[22:46] <Slart> screenname92834: dapper? what version of ubuntu are you running?
[22:46] <sebrock> please anyone? any danger to backup a mounted filesystem?
[22:46] <Slart> !dapper
[22:46] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) was the fourth release of Ubuntu. See !lts for more details.
[22:46] <screenname92834> dapper actually
[22:46] <GLORY> ok...
[22:46] <ikonia> sebrock: no
[22:46] <AHemlocksLie> slart: I think I chose autodetect when I configured xorg or whatever it's called, yeah
[22:46] <guci22> Thank you very much nickrud
[22:46] <ikonia> sebrock: don't backup /dev /proc
[22:46] <yoluca> ikonia, yeah ok i see what i can do , thanks
[22:46] <nickrud> visualdeception: the standard remove leaves the config files in /etc , adding the --purge removes them
[22:46] <Slart> screenname92834: hmm.. let me check that one.. brb
[22:47] <sebrock> ikonia: how does it differ from partimage. That supposedly is not very safe on a mounted system?
[22:47] <screenname92834> I was going to upgrade to feisty but it said on the website 'do not try to upgrade from dapper to
[22:47] <ikonia> sebrock: tar is just an archive, - no idea what partimage is, I assume it's a partition image
[22:47] <screenname92834> feisty because it will screw your system!
[22:47] <screenname92834> so I didn't
[22:47] <j_> if i running ubuntu 7.10 do i need to install X Server? xgl or aiglx in order to run Composite Manager?
[22:47] <screenname92834> I'll get hardy when it's released in April
[22:47] <nickrud> screenname92834: correct, you would have to upgrade to edgy, then feisty
[22:47] <Slart> screenname92834: hmm.. some python styff.. wxtools.. recognize it?
[22:47] <sebrock> ikonia: yes
[22:48] <Seveas> !info partimage | ikonia
[22:48] <ubotu> ikonia: partimage (source: partimage): backup partitions into a compressed image file. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-17 (gutsy), package size 268 kB, installed size 944 kB
[22:48] <Seveas> :)
[22:48] <screenname92834> possibly I have used some wx stuff
[22:48] <j_> so i have to choose either xgl or aiglx?
[22:48] <sebrock> ikonia: how about dump then? which do you recommend?
[22:48] <ikonia> j_: ubuntu is running the desktop - so it's running the x server and compiz already
[22:48] <rinaldi_> hi all, im trying to connect to my shring desktop through the network but my IP changes sometimes when I reboot. Is there a way to set a fixed ip for the computer?
[22:48] <ikonia> sebrock: ta
[22:48] <sebrock> alright thanks
[22:48] <nickrud> j_: depends on what your video card is
[22:48] <ikonia> sebrock: depeands what you use to dump
[22:48] <sebrock> 'dump' command
[22:48] <screenname92834> wxwidgets: very important
[22:48] <svu> how would I explain that stupid hal that my hdd has 2 hidden partitions which i don't want to see?
[22:48] <usr_rob> mount -a works, but fstab do not mount my nfs export
[22:49] <ikonia> sebrock: ahhh using "dump" I'd rather not have a file system mounted for that
[22:49] <ikonia> sebrock: but notes don't say it's dangerous
[22:49] <patogen> What type of mobile phones are supported by linux? I would like to be able to change in the phone book and so on from the computer
[22:49] <sebrock> ok, ikonia I think I'll just use tar then
[22:49] <patogen> and write sms from the computer and send it by the phone
[22:49] <Seveas> patogen, nokia has good linux support
[22:49] <RoboCop> !find m_sqlv2.h
[22:49] <j_> ikonia, nickrud mines video card is nvidia gx 7400 . So its already running xserver (which one , xgl or aiglx) and already have compiz (how about compiz fusion updated one? )
[22:50] <ubotu> Package/file m_sqlv2.h does not exist in gutsy
[22:50] <visualdensity> nickrud: when you say 'visualdeception' did you mean me?
[22:50] <dex84> With 2.6.22.16-0.2 kernel, I now only have 1 cpu available on a dual core machine. Anyone else having the same issue?
[22:50] <RoboCop> !find m_sqlv2.h | RoboCop
[22:50] <Slart> screenname92834: I think you can remove that line.. unless you still use it
[22:50] <ikonia> dex84: uname -a please.
[22:50] <nickrud> visualdeception: yes I did. I guess still only read 6 chars, my forth training ;)
[22:50] <Slart> screenname92834: or. .wait.. hang on
[22:50] <screenname92834> ok I'll comment it out.
[22:50] <ikonia> RoboCop: you've just done that command 5 seconds ago
[22:50] <patogen> Seveas: Nice. I'll check out if I can buy a phone that is good for me :) Thank you
[22:50] <Seveas> !msgthebot > RoboCop
[22:50] <dex84> Linux linux-798r 2.6.22.16-0.2-default #1 SMP 2008/02/01 19:36:55 UTC x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:51] <ikonia> dex84: is that an ubuntu kernel
[22:51] <j_> ikonia, nickrud do i need to update or reinstall anything to make it run compiz fusion?
[22:51] <nickrud> j_: you should already have compiz available, system->prefs->appearance effects tab.
[22:51] <Carbonflux> dex84, did you look in the kernel log to see if its really finding both of them ?
[22:51] <ikonia> j_: the restiected drivers from the restricted drivers manager is about it
[22:51] <AHemlocksLie> okay, so something I've noticed about the big, empty spot. The computer doesn't realize it's there. A screenshot shows a nice, full screen. It doesn't acknowledge the left 3" of my monitor as existing at all.
[22:51] <nickrud> j_: assuming you did the system->admin->restricted manager   install nvidia restricted driver step that is
[22:52] <RoboCop> ikonia Seveas - make[1]: *** No rule to make target `m_sqlv2.h', needed by `m_mysql.so'.  Stop.
[22:52] <RoboCop> 
[22:52] <Slart> screenname92834: try running this "wget -q http://apt.tt-solutions.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/Release.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -"
[22:52] <visualdensity> thanks! it's too late for me to use apt-get remove --purge, but I manually remove the munin/ folder in etc/
[22:52] <ikonia> RoboCop: what are you trying to build
[22:52] <Seveas> !compiling | RoboCop
[22:52] <ubotu> RoboCop: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[22:52] <j_> ikonia, nickrud  yea did it works but i wanted to customize the settings ... for effects.
[22:52] <nickrud> RoboCop: the best way to find stuff is packages.ubuntu.com , searching there
[22:52] <Slart> screenname92834: I think that might make it work.
[22:52] <dex84> opensuse
[22:52] <dmarsa> dex84, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[22:52] <ikonia> dex84: so why are you asking in here
[22:52] <Liquid2> test
[22:53] <GLORY> dep man.. sorry i gotta go
[22:53] <ikonia> dex84: this is ubuntu support - not open suse support
[22:53] <nickrud> j_: ah, install  compizconfig-settings-manager , you'll have a new preference, advanced desktop
[22:53] <j_> ikonia, nickrud  does it have compiz = fusion together?
[22:53] <nickrud> j_: ye
[22:53] <dex84> Ikonia: I'm aware of that
[22:53] <j_> nickrud ^_^
[22:53] <rinaldi_> anyone know how i can make my pc have a fixed ip on my network? it's just that my other pc's are trying to connect to shared files but it won't work because the pc's IP has changed after rebooting
[22:53] <ikonia> dex84: so why are you asking  ?
[22:53] <Carbonflux> dex84, I would look in /var/log/kern.log and see if the kernel is even finding both processors because it looks like you are running SMP
[22:53] <ikonia> Carbonflux: we do not support open suse in here
[22:53] <Carbonflux> ah sorry!
[22:53] <Slart> rinaldi_: use the network manager.. or specify the ip in .. /etc/networks I think
[22:53] <MrPiracy> i just installed gutsy, would anyone tell me a good tutorial to install awn?
[22:53] <Carbonflux> heh, making a lot of mistakes today
[22:53]  * Carbonflux hides
[22:53] <dex84> ikonia: don't respond then
[22:53] <RoboCop> nickrud ikonia Seveas - iam compiling inspircd. it has no package in ubuntu. so using tarbal. i need  that .h file  .  make[1]: *** No rule to make target `m_sqlv2.h', needed by `m_mysql.so'.  Stop.
[22:53] <ikonia> dex84: no - respect the channel rules
[22:54]  * nickrud grabs Carbonflux shoulder and drags him back into the light
[22:54] <jaegi> huhu
[22:54] <Carbonflux> heh
[22:54] <Seveas> RoboCop, if it's not in Ubuntu we don't support it :)
[22:54] <Slart> RoboCop: did you run ./configure ?
[22:54] <nickrud> RoboCop: try searching for it on packages.ubuntu.com , works well
[22:54] <rinaldi_> slart: thanks
[22:54] <Starnestommy> RoboCop: I think you should try #inspircd on chatspike
[22:54] <RoboCop> Slart yes
[22:54] <Seveas> !info inspircd
[22:54] <nickrud> RoboCop: 'it' being the file you want
[22:54] <ubotu> Package inspircd does not exist in gutsy
[22:54] <kane77> what can I use to repeatedly output content of text file? watch doesn't work because it contains color and stuff...
[22:54] <j_> nickrud is there command to install compizconfig-settings-manager
[22:54] <j_> nickrud sudo install compizconfig-settings-manager?
[22:55] <Seveas> j_, sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[22:55] <clearzen> kane77: cat < file.txt
[22:55] <Slart> RoboCop: nevermind me then =).. that error just pops up if you forget or it ./configure fails for some reason.. missing files etc
[22:55] <RoboCop> nickrud theres not package
[22:55] <nickrud> j_: you can do sudo apt-get install , or search (ctl-f) for it in synaptic
[22:55] <clearzen> kane77: is that what you mean?
[22:55] <ikonia> Slart: just headers missing
[22:55] <nickrud> RoboCop: agreed. But, you can look for the that header file's package there
[22:55] <kane77> clearzen, but that only output once...
[22:55] <hydoskee> hi, I'm trying to run eagle CAD, and all the black text is rendering as see through, which would be cool if it wasn't unreadable - any ideas?  I installed with a simple apt-get install eagle
[22:55] <dmarsa> kane77,  tail -f  ?
[22:56] <kjoz> Hey guys, is there a need for a virus scanner in linux ? Like Clam AnttVirus just incase ?
[22:56] <furytho1> did someone give advice howto get that Java plugin to work ?
[22:56] <jrib> kjoz: no
[22:56] <kane77> dmarsa, you're genius! that's it!
[22:56] <clearzen> kane77: You would just have to make a conditional loop that didn't terminate using that command
[22:56] <jrib> !virus | kjoz
[22:56] <ubotu> kjoz: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[22:56] <ikonia> kjoz: personally - I don't think so
[22:56] <dmarsa> anytime kane77
[22:57] <Slart> kjoz: a virus scanner can be handy for checking mail or files on a  file server.. but generally a linux desktop doesn't really need it
[22:57] <kane77> dmarsa, and that "scrolls" if the file changes, right?
[22:57] <Seveas> furytho1, apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[22:57] <csc`> kjoz: yes, clamav RUNS on linux but i dont think it detects linux specific viruses, just viruses in general. Mainly used for servers w/email servers and such
[22:57] <scratchme> Hi all.  I was looking for some leads on decent free control panels compatible with ubuntu lamp server.  Any suggestions are appreciated.
[22:57] <clearzen> kane77: ie use a while loop
[22:57] <dmarsa> yeah kane77
[22:57] <nickrud> kjoz: the antivirus stuff in linux is intended to screen stuff for microsoft users
[22:57] <Seveas> scratchme, apt-get install ebox (as of hardy)
[22:57] <ikonia> scratchme: join ##linux
[22:57] <kjoz> kk thanks guys
[22:57] <kane77> clearzen, thanx.. dmarsa helped.. tail -f was what I was looking for...
[22:57] <nickrud> Seveas: don't tempt people ;)
[22:58] <Seveas> nickrud, :D
[22:58] <Slart> hydoskee: I'm installing eagle cad.. will at least test it to see if it's the same here
[22:58] <howdoudo> I have compiled and installed a program. Now a new version has come out. How do I remove the last version or dont I need to?
[22:58] <ikonia> howdoudo: thats your issue - as you've not used a package manager
[22:58] <Seveas> howdoudo, that's why ubuntu uses packages, makes upgrading easy
[22:58] <RoboCop> nickrud Slart i think i dont have headers. same msg got for ssl.h . i install the dev package and it went away. now i just need m_splv2.h . apt-file search is not giving it
[22:58] <ikonia> howdoudo: your dependency tracking and clean up is now down to you
[22:58] <Slart> howdoudo: depends on what program it is.. some apps have to be removed before the new one is installed
[22:58] <hydoskee> Slart - thanks!
[22:58] <scratchme> Seveas: Thanks for the lead.  It looks more along the lines of a full server control panel as opposed to a web hosting control panel, which is more the angle I was looking for.
[22:58] <exsequor> How can I reinstall windows without destroying grub?
[22:59] <scratchme> Seveas: Am I mistaken?
[22:59] <ikonia> exsequor: you don't
[22:59] <nickrud> howdoudo: if you didn't remove the dir you ran make in,  make uninstall may work
[22:59] <Flannel> exsequor: you dont.  reinstall windows, then reinstall grub.  see !grub (first link)
[22:59] <nickrud> exsequor: you will loose grub, but it's easy to fix, see pm
[22:59] <jrib> exsequor: just reinstall windows and then reinstall grub
[22:59] <nickrud> !grub > exsequor
[22:59] <Seveas> scratchme, you're not -- maybe cpanel is what you need but it insists on having its own config handling
[22:59] <howdoudo> Thank you Slart
[22:59] <Slart> hydoskee: ouch.. hard to read
[22:59] <furytho1> here is what I got from terminal
[22:59] <furytho1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55540/
[22:59] <Starnestommy> RoboCop: I think you need libmysql++-dev
[22:59] <exsequor> !grub
[22:59] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[22:59] <Stoffer> general question:  I installed the new version of pidgin from source.  What happens if I delete or move the directory that had the source files?\
[22:59] <scratchme> Seveas: Right.  I was hoping on leads for a decent free one.  cpanel is pay last I checked.
[22:59] <jrib> furytho1: then you have the java plugin.  Did you restart firefox?
[23:00] <hydoskee> Slart - see?  any idea what's causing that?
[23:00] <bo__bo> !grub
[23:00] <ikonia> Stoffer: nothing, I'd be more worried that I'd broke ubuntu's dependency tracking
[23:00] <nickrud> furytho1: that's good
[23:00] <Starnestommy> Stoffer: it should still work if you remove the sources
[23:00] <Slart> hydoskee: have you tried disabling compiz?
[23:00] <zylche> Anyone care to debug this xorg.conf? - http://pastebin.com/m711bc62
[23:00] <RoboCop> Starnestommy how can you be sure it has that .h file?
[23:00] <hydoskee> Slart - no, that's depressing
[23:00] <Stoffer> k
[23:00] <zylche> Trying to get direct rendering working
[23:00] <ZaphodBeeblebrox> Hi everyone. Is it possible to install the flash-player update already or FF will lose it again?
[23:01] <Slart> hydoskee: hehe.. indeed.. but wait.. I read something some time ago about apps in compiz having transparency problems.. there was a work around.. something you entered on the command line when running the program.. let me search for a minute
[23:01] <furytho1> Yeah, so then website is not propably reconize my java :C
[23:01] <FY1> anyone know of a good mms player...not mplayer because for some reason I can't pause and resume
[23:01] <TSCDan> Quick question: Does the server edition come with Gnome?
[23:01] <furytho1> FY1 try totem
[23:01] <jrib> furytho1: what does this return: apt-cache policy gcjwebplugin
[23:02] <lordmorgoth> guys is there a way to get alsa 1.0.16 as a package ? or i have to compile to install it ?
[23:02] <kostkon> FY1, VLC?
[23:02] <nickrud> furytho1: google   java test , it'll take you to the sun test site
[23:02] <Seveas> TSCDan, you can easily install gnome on it but it's not installed by default
[23:02] <scratchme> Seveas: Maybe webmin/virtualmin is what I want.  I'll take a look at that.  Do you care for me to let you know what I decide, or are you content to just be left alone?  ;)
[23:02] <Seveas> scratchme, webmin should be avoided like the plague
[23:02] <Seveas> it's a security risk
[23:02] <scratchme> Seveas: Okay, any others then?
[23:02] <furytho1> gcjwebplugin:
[23:02] <furytho1>   Installed: 2:0.92-4ubuntu2
[23:02] <furytho1>   Candidate: 2:0.92-4ubuntu2
[23:02] <furytho1>   Version table:
[23:02] <furytho1>  *** 2:0.92-4ubuntu2 0
[23:02] <furytho1>         500 http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/universe Packages
[23:02] <FloodBot2> furytho1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:02] <FloodBot3> furytho1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:03] <ikonia> scratchme: is this so you can host web sites for people ?
[23:03] <Seveas> scratchme, none that I know of. I use the command line
[23:03] <Scunizi> TSCDan, as Seveas said no gnome.. infact nothing but a terminal prompt..:)
[23:03] <scratchme> ikonia: yes.
[23:03] <jrib> furytho1: do: sudo aptitude purge gcjwebplugin
[23:03] <scratchme> ikonia: Basically I'd like them to manage their own resources.
[23:03] <ArtiZ> hi
[23:03] <TSCDan> Scunizi, Seveas, Thanks.
[23:03] <ArtiZ> ý'm turkish boy
[23:03] <jrib> !tr | ArtiZ
[23:03] <ubotu> ArtiZ: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[23:03] <ikonia> scratchme: with respect - you shouldn't be hosting websites for other people if you can't run the servers correclty
[23:03] <nickrud> ArtiZ: welcome
[23:03] <ikonia> scratchme: control pannel applications are a waste of time
[23:03] <ArtiZ> how are you channel
[23:03] <scratchme> ikonia: It's low volume, nothing critical.
[23:03] <cbx33> where are the official docs for kernel compiling in ubuntu?
[23:03] <Seveas> ArtiZ, this is not a chat channel
[23:03] <scratchme> ikonia: I just don't want to be bothered for every small change.
[23:04] <Seveas> !kernelcompile | cbx33
[23:04] <ubotu> cbx33: The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[23:04] <nickrud> !kernel-package | cbx33
[23:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernel-package - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:04] <sixstorm> what's the latest on the Intel X3100 driveers?  anybody using the chipset and is it fixed yet?
[23:04] <nickrud> arg
[23:04] <screenname92834> bye folks thatnks for your help
[23:04] <ArtiZ> .)
[23:04] <lordmorgoth> guys is there a way to get alsa 1.0.16 as a package ? or i have to compile to install it ?
[23:04] <scratchme> ikonia: I don't plan to build a web-hosting empire on it if that's what you are thinking.
[23:04] <ikonia> scratchme: you can't change individual settings for 1 domain - apache is system wide
[23:04] <nickrud> lordmorgoth: compile
[23:04] <Seveas> ikonia, that's so not true :)
[23:04] <ikonia> scratchme: only things like serveralias is configured on a per domain basis
[23:04] <sme^> I installed v7.10 as desktop from a cd, chose the top option to instal. How do I now get a command line or find a file manager ?
[23:04] <furytho1> done, what now ?
[23:04] <ikonia> Seveas: at a basic level it is
[23:04] <scratchme> ikonia: Well, apache supports includes last I checked, so it would be possible to have sites setup separately in their own files.
[23:05] <nickrud> furytho1: try your page again,
[23:05] <Seveas> ikonia, not at all, apache is very, very flexible
[23:05] <jrib> furytho1: restart your browser
[23:05] <cbx33> thanks Seveas
[23:05] <Seveas> ikonia, you should see my apache vhost setup :)
[23:05] <RoboCop> !find mysql.h
[23:05] <floatingredwagon> hello ubuntu!  I'm starting to plan a personal ubuntu box, and while i'm sure it exists, I can't find a "recommended hardware" list...  can anyone help?
[23:05] <ikonia> Seveas: I agree with that, I'm not saying it isn't but your not going to load say mod_userdir for one domain
[23:05] <Scunizi> scratchme, also server management is much different from website management... ie. you don't want to maintain a clients site content.. just the servers they are running on.. right?  much easier.
[23:05] <ubotu> File mysql.h found in liblua5.1-sql-mysql-dev, libmysqlclient15-dev, libqt4-dev, pike7.6-mysql, postfix-dev (and 1 others)
[23:05] <ikonia> scratchme: and yes, your correct it does support includes
[23:05] <furytho1> now it is working
[23:05] <furytho1> thank you
[23:05] <Seveas> ikonia, but you *can* enable it per domain
[23:05] <sixstorm> what's the latest on the Intel X3100 driveers?  anybody using the chipset and is it fixed yet?
[23:05] <Xbehave>  by default aptitude installed recomened packages. is there a way of striping my install down to kubuntu + a list of programs?
[23:05] <ikonia> Seveas: not without cycling apache
[23:06] <ikonia> Seveas: which no user should be able to do
[23:06] <Seveas> hm?
[23:06] <scratchme> Scunizi: Basically, I want to let users create subdomains, domains, backup their folders, link to a mysqladmin, that sort of thing.
[23:06] <ikonia> Seveas: that change won't be picked up until apache is restarted
[23:06] <abrocadabro> how do I update my  /etc/ld.so.conf? is there a script to do this?
[23:06] <ikonia> Seveas: I believe at least
[23:06] <Seveas> ikonia, nonsense argument, all config changes need that
[23:06] <ikonia> abrocadabro: edit it and run ldconfig
[23:06] <nickrud> abrocadabro:   sudo ldconfig
[23:06] <furytho1> Honestly, I would not mind if someone would nuke down the MS HQ and I would definetly not judge him from anything, rather thanking of makin great service for free information technology scene :D
[23:06] <Seveas> !ot | furytho1
[23:06] <ubotu> furytho1: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[23:06] <ikonia> Seveas: exactly, thats why I'm saying no-user should be able to do that
[23:06] <abrocadabro> ah, I see, thanks
[23:07] <Seveas> ikonia, indeed. That doesn't change anything I said :)
[23:07] <Scunizi> scratchme, that's what I would do.. I just logged on so I missed a lot of the other stuff you guys were talking about.
[23:07] <ikonia> Seveas: I agree %100 that apache is flexible and you can change it, but giving users the power to bounce apache isn't appealing
[23:07] <zylche> Xorg.conf - Direct Rendering - Widescreen - ATI - http://pastebin.com/m711bc62
[23:07] <Seveas> ikonia, those two things are unrelated to each other
[23:07] <ArGo|Plasmo> What is the best way to partition a drive for Windoze, once I have already had Ubuntu fully installed?
[23:07] <ikonia> Seveas: perhaps my wording was a tad off
[23:07] <nickrud> !ot | Seveas ikonia (I love it :)
[23:07] <ubotu> Seveas ikonia (I love it :): #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[23:07] <ikonia> Seveas: hence the "system wide"
[23:07] <Seveas> ikonia, and with excessive usage of .htaccess files you can avoid reloads. Not that one would want that :)
[23:08] <ikonia> Seveas: that is beyond my ability with apache
[23:08] <Seveas> nickrud, ack
[23:08] <scratchme> Scunizi: I missed your suggestion.  I'm basically looking to let people do some shared hosting.  Nothing critical.  I'm not especially worried about security risks if it's possible to restrict logins to the web control panel areas via login or something.
[23:08] <zylche> Seveas!
[23:08] <scratchme> Scunizi: I'm planning to schedule regular backups, so, recovery should be fairly no-brainer.
[23:08] <ikonia> scratchme: how about how ubuntu handles it with "site-enabled" and just give each uset their own config file to change ?
[23:09] <floatingredwagon> I'm looking for a recommended hardware list for ubuntu -- can anyone feed me a link to such information?
[23:09] <ikonia> scratchme: keep the config files in each users home dir ?
[23:09] <jeppe> ½1qas
[23:09] <scratchme> ikonia: If I have to supply "config files" then I've already failed, and might as well just do it for them.
[23:09] <sixstorm> what's the latest on the Intel X3100 driveers?  anybody using the chipset and is it fixed yet?
[23:09] <Scunizi> scratchme, no suggestion because I just logged in and missed what you were asking. Web Control panel should handle it for people. Setting up apache for multiple sites and using control panels is something I'm not familure with .. try #ubuntu-server for more specifics. :)
[23:09] <Seveas> !repeat | sixstorm
[23:09] <ubotu> sixstorm: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[23:09] <jrib> !hardware > floatingredwagon (read the private message from ubotu)
[23:09] <jrib> floatingredwagon: that's probably the closest thing to it
[23:09] <sixstorm> sorry
[23:10] <floatingredwagon> jrib - exactly what i was looking for -- thank you!
[23:10] <ikonia> scratchme: I'll bow to Seveas on that then, as thats how I'd to it as I don't beleve in the cpannel style stuff
[23:10] <RoboCop> !find mysql.h
[23:10] <ubotu> File mysql.h found in liblua5.1-sql-mysql-dev, libmysqlclient15-dev, libqt4-dev, pike7.6-mysql, postfix-dev (and 1 others)
[23:10] <ikonia> Seveas: thank you !
[23:10] <j_> How come i get log off every time ?
[23:10] <lynucs> guys, how can i autostart programs depending on my session choice in dgm?
[23:11] <lynucs> trying all the day already
[23:11] <RoboCop> !find mysql.h
[23:11] <nickrud> j_: what do you mean, logged off every time?
[23:11] <ikonia> oh dear
[23:11] <ubotu> File mysql.h found in liblua5.1-sql-mysql-dev, libmysqlclient15-dev, libqt4-dev, pike7.6-mysql, postfix-dev (and 1 others)
[23:11] <scratchme> ikonia: Like I said it's low volume, and it's basically to prevent having to do every one-off type config.  For example, a user wants to setup drupal/wordpress, I'm hoping that stuff to be guided by the install.  I don't know how much is available free, but I'm just looking.
[23:11] <nickrud> RoboCop: do   /msg ubotu find mysql.h , you can do it in privata
[23:11] <ikonia> scratchme: thats more mysql setup than apache
[23:12] <j_> nickrud when i set my compiz settings sometimes it log off automatic
[23:12] <ph8> hey guys, can anyone tell me how to turn flow control on? I have a suspicion it's going to stop my (almost supported) network card from crashing regularly (usually when i put in huge amounts of traffic!)
[23:12] <j_> nickrud without warning
[23:12] <nickrud> j_: compiz can be tricky. for bugs with it, #compiz-fusion usually has good answers
[23:12] <screenname92834> no I'm bak
[23:13] <screenname92834> folks, if  I do apt-key list I get three entries
[23:13] <MasterShrek> anyone got any idea why ntp wouldnt be working? keep getting: "no server suitable for synchronization found"
[23:14] <screenname92834> apt-key: ubuntu archive, ubuntu cd and Vadim Zeitlin
[23:14] <zylche> Guys. I need help getting my xorg.conf working so I get direct rendering. Any help at all?
[23:14] <MasterShrek> !ntp
[23:14] <ubotu> Information about using and setting your computer's clock on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - See https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/NTP.html for information on usage of the Network Time Protocol (NTP)
[23:15] <Scunizi> zylche, you'll need to state ati or Nvidia or intel and model # for more assistance from those in the know.
[23:15] <leftyfBX> does the gutsy live cd install let you create encrypted partitions?
[23:15] <j_> How come i get log off every time ?
[23:15] <Scunizi> leftyfBX, don't think so.. but I think the alternate does.  the alternate also has better lvm management.
[23:15] <zylche> Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller | full xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/m711bc62
[23:15] <leftyfBX> bummer
[23:16] <none> hi all
[23:16] <emil31> good evening
[23:17] <Scunizi> zylche, looks ok from here.. but I'm no expert.  did you run the reconfigure command listed at the first part of xorg?
[23:17] <exsequor> thanks you guys are awesome
[23:17] <screenname92834> slart: well having removed that repo from my list
[23:17] <nickrud> zylche: put a copy of /var/log/Xorg.0.log on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org , no promises though
[23:17] <screenname92834> (leaving me with ubuntu.com universe only)
[23:17] <emil31> i was wondering if i could get help with installing my webcam
[23:17] <screenname92834> I discover that the program I was downloading STILL can't be authenticated
[23:18] <Slart> screenname92834: oh.. what program is it you're downloading?
[23:18] <screenname92834> My conclusion is that ubuntu.com doesn't sign all its packages.
[23:18] <kane77> why isn't icecat/iceweasel in repositories?
[23:18] <screenname92834> audacity
[23:18] <joanki> can anyone tell me the cmd prompts to access my disk drive?
[23:18] <joanki> access the files, that is
[23:18] <nickrud> screenname92834: do you have any other repo's enabled?
[23:18] <Scunizi> joanki, from terminal?
[23:18] <joanki> yes
[23:18] <Slart> screenname92834: hmm.. all packages are signed..
[23:18] <Flannel> kane77: iceweasel is a virtal package
[23:18] <screenname92834> no only the four ubuntu.com repos.
[23:19] <emil31> ubuntu detects my webcam in the usb port but I only need correct driver
[23:19] <kane77> Flannel, so what package do I install?
[23:19] <Scunizi> joanki, cd /media/<insert drive designator here> then ls to list the directories and contents.
[23:19] <Flannel> kane77: firefox will work
[23:19] <nickrud> screenname92834: do sudo apt-get update , then try again. if it still is unathenticated, run  apt-cache policy audacity
[23:20] <screenname92834> ok I'll try
[23:20] <nickrud> screenname92834: the policy will show you where it's trying to get it from
[23:20] <screenname92834> and apt-get will update what?
[23:21] <Flannel> screenname92834: apt-cache policy audacity will
[23:21] <OJW104> Does anyone know hwo good the driver support for a dell laptop would be/.
[23:21] <nickrud> screenname92834: it will update your list of packages. ubuntu doesn't sign packages individually, but rather the repo the come from. The authentication has a limited lifetime
[23:22] <Scunizi> OJW104, pretty good normally depending on the machine.. I've read no issues with vostro 1400
[23:22] <screenname92834> ok
[23:23] <screenname92834> audacity: installed. archive.ubuntu.com dapper /universe Packages
[23:23] <OJW104> I have a Vostro 1500, I remember I could never get my Dell desktop to configure properly and I didn't want it to be an issue with my laptop
[23:23] <Slart> !easysource
[23:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easysource - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:23] <ahorriblemess> hey all. I've been using Ubuntu for a few days now, it's great. But, I was thinking about dual booting...
[23:23] <Jack_Sparrow> no more easysoure
[23:23] <nickrud> !dualboot | ahorriblemess
[23:23] <ubotu> ahorriblemess: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[23:24] <ahorriblemess> The only reason I'd really like to dual boot is to use lightscribe occasionally, and maybe use soulseek... But, I don't want Vista to take up too much space... just a bit
[23:24] <Slart> Jack_Sparrow: what happened?
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[23:24] <screenname92834> nickrud: ubuntu doesn't sign packages? how can it 'sign the server they come from'? I dont' get it
[23:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Slart: THere wer some problems and seveas took it down
[23:24] <ahorriblemess> yeah I installed ubuntu using the text installer, i dont completely understand exactly how much space gets used
[23:24] <Slart> Jack_Sparrow: ok..
[23:25] <russ> Hello, does anybody know of a way to record streaming audio from the internet? A can do it in windows, but on linux so far I have only been able to record from the internal mic on my laptop
[23:25] <nickrud> screenname92834: it signs the Release file on the server iirc
[23:25] <screenname92834> nickrud: ??????
[23:25] <stelt> russ, vlc/videolan
[23:25] <Slart> russ: I think you may be able to do it using dmix and some alsa black magic
[23:25]  * flyback- hums along as he converts a old P133 laptop to nt4ws for use as a serial terminal, vnc terminal etc (yes linux does not work right with the video)
[23:26] <Slart> russ: if you have a soundcard that supports it you might be able to record from "what you hear" or soemthing like that
[23:26] <ryanpg> hi all... how can I tell what files a program is accessing?
[23:26] <nickrud> screenname92834: the Release file lists the files in the repo, along with their md5sum. That file is what is signed, and is downloaded and checked when you do an update
[23:26] <ahorriblemess> thanks for answering so quickly.... but really what i want to know is how little of a percentage can I use. I see I'm supposed to specify the size of the partition.. is it possible to have like 95% ubuntu, 5% vista?
[23:26] <friedtofu> which is better? Core 2 Duo T7500 (2.2 Ghz 800 Mhz 4MBL2) vs Core 2 Duo T8300 (2.4 Ghz 800 Mhz 3MBL2)?
[23:27] <russ> Slart I would think so but don't know how to make it happen
[23:27] <ryanpg> for example, if I start a program, can I ascertain which if any, files in a given directory are being read by that program?
[23:27] <Scunizi> ahorriblemess, sure as long as you have a huge drive and the %
[23:27] <ahorriblemess> i don't
[23:27] <ahorriblemess> i dont think
[23:27] <Slart> ryanpg: I looked for something that did that a while ago.. didn't find anything.. le me know if you do
[23:27] <Scunizi> ahorriblemess, 5% for vista is enough for the op sys and pgrms.
[23:27] <ahorriblemess> it is? awesome
[23:27] <Scunizi> ahorriblemess, how much is 5% on your system.
[23:28] <ahorriblemess> i dont know
[23:28] <celious> ahorriblemess: Vista takes around 6GB of space.. depending on the version
[23:28] <ryanpg> Slart, will do
[23:28] <nomic> what is the best way to compare speeds of PCs running ubuntu anyone?
[23:28] <Scunizi> ahorriblemess, that's the million dollar question.. how big is your drive.
[23:28] <ahorriblemess> ok cool that's the kind of info i was looking for Celious. I just didn't ask haha
[23:28] <screenname92834> so if anyone wanted to impersonate a repo, it couldn't impersonate the Release file, and if it was going to impersonate packages, it would, at least, have to maintain the checksum. Which I imagine is possible although tricky
[23:28] <ahorriblemess> 160
[23:28] <Slart> russ: I'm afraid it will take longer to explain than I will manage to stay awake.. I'm off to bed before I fall asleep on the keyboard
[23:28] <ahorriblemess> gb
[23:28] <Intel4004> Don't run Vista it's a virus
[23:28] <ahave> i need help with rtl818x drivers
[23:28] <screenname92834> yeah I need to go to bed as well
[23:28] <aLeSD> how can I know if my bluetooth work ?
[23:29] <nickrud> screenname92834: that's the idea, and the signing of individual packages is on a deep back burner I think
[23:29] <ahorriblemess> i'm not right now at all, i was just thinking about reinstalling for a couple of things
[23:29] <ahave> specifically rtl8187 chipset drivers
[23:29] <ahorriblemess> i'm 100% ubuntu right now
[23:29] <Jack_Sparrow> screenname92834: If your concern is safety.. it has been well thought out
[23:29] <screenname92834> So if ubuntu doesn't sign packages, then why is it complaining about authentication?
[23:29] <Slart> nomic: search in synaptic for "benchmark".. there are a few
[23:29] <nomic> right thanks slart
[23:29] <screenname92834> why is synaptics complaining about authentication?
[23:29] <Scunizi> ahorriblemess, but you'll need more than 6 gigs to install programs (read.. games etc.). With a 160 drive I would make 20 gigs Vista and the rest ubuntu. make a seperate partiiton for your /home. It will make things easier in the future.
[23:29] <russ> ryanpg you can look at the file attributes - I think the OS keeps track of when they were last accessed - so you could run the program and then look at those attributes after
[23:29] <PriceChild> screenname92834, ubuntu does use gpg to authenticate packages
[23:29] <nickrud> screenname92834: because your list is out of date. Or, you have a repo in your sources.list that isn't signed or you don't have the key for
[23:30] <ahorriblemess> so three partitions? One ubuntu, one vista, and one /home?
[23:30] <mrmagoo24m> what can i do about my  mp3's being unsupported i installed mp3 support for amarok
[23:30] <screenname92834> nickrud: what you say makes some sense
[23:30] <Slart> !mp3 | mrmagoo24m
[23:30] <ubotu> mrmagoo24m: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[23:30] <nickrud> PriceChild: it isn't the actual packages that are individually signed though, iirc
[23:30] <Scunizi> ahorriblemess, root or "/" in ubuntu you could make around 10 to 15 gigs.. swap should be double your RAM amount and the rest for /home
[23:30] <Jack_Sparrow> ahorriblemess: plus swap
[23:30] <PriceChild> nickrud, nope, a list of md5sums iirc
[23:30] <ryanpg> russ, hrm... yeah that sounds doable - though I thought there was a command
[23:30] <screenname92834> aaaaaaaahh now I'm losing it
[23:31] <nickrud> screenname92834: PriceChild just said the same thing I said earlier ;)
[23:31] <Slart> mrmagoo24m: those links should take care of it.. if you've already done what they suggest I can't really offer anything better
[23:31] <screenname92834> phew
[23:31] <screenname92834> don't do that to me
[23:31] <ahorriblemess> thanks
[23:31] <NW2190> What's a good program for writing in LaTeX in Ubuntu?
[23:31] <ahorriblemess> I might not even do it, I hate windows and Vista makes me want to vomit sometimes, but I have lightscribe and I'd like to use it
[23:31] <PriceChild> NW2190, any text editor at all
[23:32] <nickrud> screenname92834: so, run   sudo apt-get get update &&  sudo apt-get install audacity . If it says it isn't signed, put the full output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[23:32] <Slart> NW2190: lyx is nice, imho
[23:32] <mateusz> NW2190: tex-maker which is for KDE
[23:32] <Scunizi> ahorriblemess, lightscribe should be available in linux by now..
[23:32] <Slart> !latex
[23:32] <mateusz> NW2190: but I use it under gnome
[23:32] <ubotu> tex is a language for describing a document, commonly used especially for scientific publishing. Information and instructions for installing TeX and other related packages can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LaTeX
[23:32] <[g2]> any pointers to web resource on hotplug device names on Gutsy ?
[23:32] <mrmagoo24m> on ubuntu v6 it didnt have this issue
[23:32] <PriceChild> NW2190, i love gedit for most text stuff, plus it does hilighting
[23:32] <nickrud> !info lyx | NW2190
[23:32] <ubotu> nw2190: lyx (source: lyx): Document Processor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.1-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 3272 kB, installed size 8368 kB
[23:32] <Gigamo> Hi. Is there any way I can define mouse sensitivity in X? (not in gnome)
[23:32] <Scunizi> ahorriblemess, here's one referance http://www.linux.com/feature/118705
[23:32] <NW2190> PriceChild: Does it do LaTeX??
[23:32] <jrib> NW2190: I like vim with latexsuite if you like vim
[23:32] <mateusz> NW2190: I suggest texmaker
[23:33] <Gigamo> !info medit
[23:33] <ubotu> medit (source: medit): A useful programming and around-programming text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-1 (gutsy), package size 924 kB, installed size 3152 kB
[23:33] <Scunizi> I know latex is cool. but I've never used it.  What makes it so cool?
[23:33] <NW2190> Ok, I'll try those out thanks for the suggestions.
[23:33] <ahorriblemess> Scunizi: thanks
[23:33] <mateusz> NW2190: its editor with syntax highlight and has some menu items that help a lot with writing.. for example table wizard etc.
[23:33] <nickrud> Scunizi: cuz everyone says it's cool ;)
[23:33] <Slart> NW2190: the version of ghostscript that ubuntu supplies has a bug that messes up eps-files in latex.. or possibly just in lyx
[23:33] <mateusz> NW2190: use texlive
[23:34] <ph8> hey guys, can anyone tell me how to turn flow control on? I have a suspicion it's going to stop my (almost supported) network card from crashing regularly (usually when i put in huge amounts of traffic!)
[23:34] <Scunizi> nickrud, tried once.. didn't grasp the concept
[23:34] <NW2190> K
[23:34] <Slart> NW2190: it's easy to fix if you really want to.. just thought I'd give you a small warning
[23:34] <nickrud> Scunizi: it's simply a document markup language, old but powerful.
[23:34] <ahorriblemess> ok, so in time there will probably be some pretty awesome lightscribe software
[23:34] <russ> NW2190 I haven't LaTeXed in a long time but there is a program called Winefish LaTeX editor that seems to be very specific - has menu options for all the major LaTeX formatting commands
[23:34] <Scunizi> nickrud, thanks..
[23:34] <ahorriblemess> so I can stick with being sans-Windows
[23:34] <Slart> Scunizi: it's beautiful.. the typesetting is way better than say office or openoffice
[23:34] <nickrud> Scunizi: especially good for scientific books, which it was originally written for I think
[23:35] <j_> How do i title my windows
[23:35] <Scunizi> ahorriblemess, yea!
[23:35] <ahorriblemess> *phew*
[23:35] <russ> NW2190 but the best editor for every purpose under the sun is emacs
[23:35] <Slart> Scunizi: and it's horrible to learn..so we can be elitist bastards when someone asks what we're using ;)
[23:35] <Scunizi> Slart, but a whole new concept to get use to .. isn't it? formatting and such.. the how to's, what for's?
[23:35]  * nickrud thinks Slap_Sti1k has hit it on the head
[23:36] <Scunizi> Slart, :)
[23:36] <nickrud> um, Slart did thatis
[23:36] <Slart> Scunizi: indeed.. it will take some learning...
[23:36] <ahorriblemess> ok I'm leaving, thank you for the help anyone who helped. Thanks for the link scunizi
[23:36] <Slart> nickrud: I always keep taller people around me.. for the shielding =)
[23:37] <screenname92834> nickrud: I think we're ok. I reinstalled audacity from synaptics and it didn't complain this time, so I think you are right in that
[23:37] <screenname92834> my Release file was out of date
[23:38] <Gigamo> so, anyone? can I change mouse sensitivity in X itself, DE-independantly? I was thinking it should be possible in xorg.conf, but no idea how.
[23:38] <screenname92834> the only thing that concerns me is that I remember it installing 4 dependencies as well but I think I'm going to assume that they are fine as well and go to bed. I mean, who hacks ubuntu?
[23:38] <screenname92834> who hacks ubuntu? are there any ubuntu viruses?
[23:39] <Slart> !virus
[23:39] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[23:39] <nickrud> Gigamo: http://ftp.x.org/pub/X11R7.0/doc/html/mouse.4.html has all the config options you can think of
[23:39] <Gigamo> nickrud: thank you
[23:39] <Slart> well.. I'm off to bed.. good night everyone
[23:39] <Dr_willis> there was some kernel exploit i heard of last week..
[23:39] <screenname92834> slart I have to drive home as well!
[23:39] <PriceChild> Dr_willis, security team are aware
[23:40] <dolphin_noel> how is possible ... the config.inc.php from phpmyadmin only be read if have full acess ?! when i install it in to public_html
[23:41] <nickrud> Dr_willis: there's a fix in the git repo already i read
[23:41] <slliness> hi where do I get the picasa? using 7.10 32bit
[23:41] <dolphin_noel> i allready try it to put it from chown root to only root apache can read it but nathing :x
[23:41] <slliness> *-the
[23:41] <Dr_willis> nickrud,  since im the only user - :) i aint been too worried about it.
[23:41] <Dr_willis> Isent picasa in the mediubuntu repos?
[23:42] <Dr_willis> along with googleearth and some other apps?
[23:42] <nickrud> Dr_willis: likewise, and I promised myself I wouldn't try it on the servers I have access to :)
[23:42] <MacAnthony> Can any one help with an xdmcp client issue?
[23:42] <Gigamo> nickrud: hmm, can't seem to find it on there
[23:43] <slliness> Dr_willis, I installed the repos and searched and don't see it
[23:43] <mrmagoo24m> would someone advise this EasyUbuntu
[23:43] <nickrud> Gigamo: either/both of Resolution and SampleRate
[23:43] <mrmagoo24m> would someone advise this EasyUbuntu????
[23:44] <Dr_willis> slliness,  ya could go to the picassa web site and see if they got debs. Ive done it that way befor.
[23:44] <nickrud> !easyubuntu
[23:44] <MacAnthony> I have my xdmcp server setup and working but can't figure out how to get the client setup
[23:44] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[23:44] <Dr_willis> mrmagoo24m,  avoide it like the Plague.
[23:44] <Gigamo> nickrud: ohh, resolution, should that be in DPI?
[23:44] <Dr_willis> mrmagoo24m,  its best to learn the proper way to install things.
[23:44] <Gigamo> nickrud: like 400
[23:44] <mrmagoo24m> really alright
[23:44] <nickrud> Gigamo: I think so. My memory on this is pretty rusty I last used that several years ago
[23:44] <mrmagoo24m> lol i was wondering
[23:45] <bruenig> easyubuntu is unnecessary
[23:45] <screenname92834> friend of mine said the reason for why linux is virus-free is that few people use it so no-one bothers to attack it.
[23:45] <orangey> j #mailman
[23:45] <Breakage> nickrud: any idea how to set "xset m 0 0" system wide, i.e. in GDM, Openbox, Xfce etc.. without enabling it as startup commands in each DE/WM?
[23:45] <nickrud> screenname92834: not totally false
[23:45] <Jack_Sparrow> screenname92834: Not even close to an informed opinion
[23:45] <screenname92834> jack-Sparrow: care to say more?
[23:45] <tcpdumpgod> Whats cracking. I have a GeForce FX 5200/AGP/SSE2 and a DELL 2007WFP LCD monitor. It is sluggish is heck and glxinfo |grep rend shows direct rendering enabled. I do have the monitor connected with a HD-15 cable and not the DVI both card and monitor are capable of however, i would think that I could comfortably watch full screen video.
[23:46] <tcpdumpgod> Any comments?
[23:46] <compsman> hi guys i am having trouple getting nvidia drivers working
[23:46] <compsman>  You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[23:46] <Gigamo> nickrud: guess I'll find out whether it works or not :-)
[23:46] <Jack_Sparrow> screenname92834: Let me see f I can find the article that explains it better
[23:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !virus
[23:46] <Gigamo> nickrud: thanks
[23:46] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[23:46] <nickrud> screenname92834: it's vulnerable to social engineering attacks, but there are so few users compared to windows that linux is a waste of effort
[23:46] <tcpdumpgod> Anyone...
[23:46] <screenname92834> that article claims that it's because you can't write to a decent binary unless you are root. That assumes the operating system is flawless. I reckon a good virus can beat the OS's protection on root's files.
[23:47] <screenname92834> whats a social engineering attack
[23:47] <Jack_Sparrow> screenname92834: http://librenix.com/?inode=21  is another good one.
[23:47] <nickrud> Breakage: not really. I'd start by looking in /etc/X11/Xsession.d
[23:47] <tcpdumpgod> compsman, open up a terminal and type the following:  "glxinfo |grep rend" as your normal user.
[23:47] <Dr_willis>  decent binary ?
[23:47] <Breakage> nickrud: thanks for the tip :)
[23:47] <tcpdumpgod> See if direct rendering is enabled compsman
[23:47] <Jack_Sparrow> screenname92834: I suggest that if you wish to discuss it you jump over to #ubuntu-offtopic.. this is the support room
[23:48] <nickrud> screenname92834: where they trick you into running a compromised binary
[23:48] <compsman> tcpdumpgod: it not evening loading driver sir
[23:48] <tcpdumpgod> compsman, what does dmesg as root show.
[23:48] <tcpdumpgod> Have you checked /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog as root compsman ?
[23:48]  * stelt feels very dirty about it, but will probably order Vista tomorrow. With so much not working on Ubuntu only the chance of some things working on Vista and get some productivity ... :-(
[23:49] <tcpdumpgod> YUCK stelt
[23:49] <nickrud> screenname92834: like a .run file you download off the web and don't really know it's provenance
[23:49] <tcpdumpgod> stelt, this is a family channel... please watch your language.
[23:49] <tcpdumpgod> :)
[23:49] <compsman> tcpdumpgod: there huge logs
[23:49] <tcpdumpgod> i know compsman, grep for it.
[23:49] <a1fa> hey guys, i have dell latitude ls. i am trying to run xorg, but it max resolution defaults at 800x600
[23:49] <tcpdumpgod> try this...
[23:49] <a1fa> the problem is. lcd monitors edid is wrong and its telling xorg max screen is 800x600
[23:49] <a1fa> which is not true
[23:49] <mrmagoo24m> you need drivers?? i think a1fa
[23:50] <mrmagoo24m> that was my case
[23:50] <a1fa> i got drivers
[23:50] <a1fa> its neomagic
[23:50] <mrmagoo24m> alright.
[23:50]  * stelt needs some local 'geek' friends
[23:50] <a1fa> i'll be your friend for $2000 a month
[23:50] <compsman> wat am i looking for tcpdumpgod
[23:50] <Jack_Sparrow> stelt: Please stop with the running commentary
[23:50] <MasterShrek> stelt, what sorts of issues are you having?
[23:50] <tcpdumpgod> Compleja, try "grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[23:50] <MasterShrek> stelt, irc makes everyone a local
[23:51] <MasterShrek> geek friend
[23:51] <Pici> !ot
[23:51] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[23:51] <schnoowork> hello i have a vista/ubuntu split partition and for some reason one of my vista data drives arent showing up in ubuntu anymore although it ALWAYS used to. anyone got any idea what i could try.
[23:51] <tcpdumpgod> EE in that log is indicative of errors, thats what you're looking for.
[23:51] <tcpdumpgod> brb compsman
[23:51] <screenname92834> ok folks, it's been great talking to you. Good nite!
[23:52] <Jack_Sparrow> nite
[23:52] <vbabiy_laptop> Hey Guys what should I do to help this issue http://vbabiy.mine.nu:8080/images/Error.png
[23:52] <mrmagoo24m> i installed avi codecs ... and still i dont get video
[23:52] <mrmagoo24m> is there a fix for this
[23:52] <vbabiy_laptop> Or where can is submit this bug
[23:52] <vbabiy_laptop> mrm
[23:52] <Jack_Sparrow> vbabiy_laptop: Please post a description of the issue , not just a link
[23:52] <vbabiy_laptop> mrmagoo24m: what player you using
[23:53] <schnoowork> GParted seemed to give me an error saying "Unable to read the contents of this filesystem!" although ive always before been able to access this.
[23:53] <vbabiy_laptop> Jack_Sparrow: Its a error I get when i login to gnome
[23:53] <mrmagoo24m> msomething
[23:53] <mrmagoo24m> and kaffiene
[23:53] <compsman> are you back yet tcpdumpgod
[23:53] <vbabiy_laptop> mrmagoo24m: mplayer
[23:53] <mrmagoo24m> and some other
[23:53] <mrmagoo24m> yes
[23:53] <vbabiy_laptop> Jack_Sparrow: that was screen shot
[23:53] <tcpdumpgod> yeah, im cooking too compsman
[23:53] <MasterShrek> mrmagoo24m, have you added the medibuntu repositories?
[23:53] <vbabiy_laptop> mrmagoo24m: Where did you install mplayer from?
[23:53] <tcpdumpgod> What'd you find.
[23:54] <compsman> tcpdumpgod: so wat am i looking for in dmsg
[23:54] <tcpdumpgod> I told you what to type, you need to scroll back up and read.
[23:54] <mrmagoo24m> from synaptics
[23:54] <tcpdumpgod> lol
[23:54] <mrmagoo24m> i think
[23:54] <tcpdumpgod> Compleja, try "grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[23:54] <Jack_Sparrow> vbabiy_laptop: were you playing with themes and gnome settings
[23:54] <tcpdumpgod> EE in that log is indicative of errors, thats what you're looking for.
[23:54] <tcpdumpgod> i meant compsman try "grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[23:54] <vbabiy_laptop> Jack_Sparrow: no just happens on most restarts
[23:55] <vbabiy_laptop> on all three of my machines
[23:55] <stelt> MasterShrek,  I can't get the top priority little program (for my studies) working. Bluetooth can only detect other devices, nothing further. Wifi only works sometimes. Some of the programs i've installed don't show in the menu. I can't use the wifi on my uni campus. my battery is rather lousy (probably because of Ubuntu who keeps saying things about it which make no sense). My screen keeps dimming, while i have set all power saving off. etc. etc
[23:55] <compsman>  (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[23:55] <compsman> (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[23:55] <Jack_Sparrow> vbabiy_laptop: rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity                  from command line   (recovery mode if needed)  will reset gnome settings..  What all have you installed from outside the repos
[23:56] <speeddemon8803> anybody have any idea why my intel 3945 abg wireless card would just suddenly drop connection until i restart my pc?
[23:56] <MasterShrek> stelt, sounds mostly like hardware incompatibility, is it a newer laptop?
[23:56] <vbabiy_laptop> Jack_Sparrow: But I don't want to loose all my setting
[23:56] <stelt> MasterShrek, brand spanking new
[23:56] <speeddemon8803> i cant connect to any network after it drops until i completely cold boot
[23:56] <compsman> tcpdumpgod: i dont get any eerors in 0.log
[23:56] <spideyman> Im looking for help converting my avi files to psp format in gutsy anything would be appreciated
[23:56] <a1fa> does anybody know how to tell xorg to ignore EDID info?
[23:57] <MasterShrek> stelt, you cant expect linux to work on brand new hardware, its just simply not possible
[23:57] <jgiorgi> hey whats the best peer to peer/file sharing program for ubuntu???
[23:57] <vbabiy_laptop> Jack_Sparrow: is there any other option
[23:57] <tcpdumpgod> compsman, you're typing "grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log" correct?
[23:57] <dmarsa> stelt what make and model?
[23:57] <tcpdumpgod> !p2p | jga23
[23:57] <ubotu> jga23: Peer-to-peer filesharing clients are available for several networks/protocols, including !BitTorrent, !Gnutella, !eDonkey, !DirectConnect, !SoulSeek - Multi-protocol engines include !MLDonkey and !giFT - See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information
[23:57] <MasterShrek> jgiorgi, not the place for this sort of chatter
[23:57] <pocketwatch> spideyman, look into k9copy
[23:57] <compsman> tcpdumpgod:  yea  (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[23:57] <compsman> (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[23:57] <DDragon> just wondering how i put the command 'modprobe ndiswrapper' into the bootup list so it loads when i start up if possable any ideas?
[23:57] <tcpdumpgod> compsman, that's the only thing you're getting eh.
[23:57] <Jack_Sparrow> vbabiy_laptop:I can understand that...  but unless you can tell us what all you did and installed and changed, there is not enough info to make a decent suggestion
[23:58] <spideyman> pocketwatch thanx
[23:58] <compsman> tcpdumpgod:  yea
[23:58] <jgiorgi> mastershrek: im sorry, i just thought the ubuntu chat room would be a good place to ask about ubuntu compatible programs
[23:58] <Jack_Sparrow> vbabiy_laptop: You can always make a partition backup.. then try it
[23:58] <speeddemon8803> If ubotu has a command for what is being talked about, i dont see why people claim on its off topic
[23:58] <tcpdumpgod> compsman, are you sudoed into root when you try that command?
[23:58] <tcpdumpgod> try this.
[23:58] <vbabiy_laptop> Jack_Sparrow: but it doesn't happen every time
[23:58] <compsman> tcpdumpgod:  i used have ubuntu and now i have it back and nvidia drivers wasnt being this way
[23:58] <schnoowork> has anyone run into that before ?
[23:58] <vbabiy_laptop> Only maybe every 10 restarts
[23:59] <tcpdumpgod> ok so you're an experienced user.
[23:59] <MasterShrek> jgiorgi, but filesharing is generally not the sort of thing we discuss here since it is generally relate to privacy..but...
[23:59] <tcpdumpgod> okay, good.;
[23:59] <MasterShrek> !p2p | jgiorgi
[23:59] <ubotu> jgiorgi: Peer-to-peer filesharing clients are available for several networks/protocols, including !BitTorrent, !Gnutella, !eDonkey, !DirectConnect, !SoulSeek - Multi-protocol engines include !MLDonkey and !giFT - See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information
[23:59] <stelt> dmarsa, this one http://www.pointec.nl/ahtec/0712/1719U_815_1199.jpg with a faster drive and more and faster RAM
[23:59] <vbabiy_laptop> Is there a tool that I can run to verify the configuration of gnome.
[23:59] <Jack_Sparrow> vbabiy_laptop:I can understand that...  but unless you can tell us what all you did and installed and changed, there is not enough info to make a decent suggestion
[23:59] <tcpdumpgod> compsman, check all your logs for errors using grep to weed out the irrelevant information.