[mfk]thank you with that link, i've seen the image of the installation/disinstallation of Wubi (700mb) so i've thinked, I've simply moved the file to the trash!!! but i haven't disinstalled it!00:00
[mfk]really thanks :)00:00
unagidoes anyone know how to take raw data from a gps and plot it out in google maps?00:00
ignoramus[mfk]: on behalf of all who helped - no problem.00:00
[mfk]so what do you suggest for the next installation? Manual or what? I believe i have to read the link you pasted me previuosly about the Breezy loaded on external USB drive00:01
ignoramus[mfk]: well, i'd suggest Kubuntu, naturally ;)00:02
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[mfk]oh yes of course, Kubuntu :) but i was asking if make the installation manually or throught the gui00:03
ignoramus[mfk]: let me ask you a question - how do you set a message for when you leave the irc server?00:03
ignoramus[mfk]: manual, because you may run into issues installing an OS onto an HDD which you cannot boot from.  Just to be safe00:04
unagidoes anyone here use gps with ubuntu?00:04
[mfk]ignoramus: i don't know, i've installed this IRC opensource client called Bersirc IRC Client 2.2.14 about 5 minutes before entering here, why?00:04
mixedhow do I find out information in my computer, like the CPU/MEM KDE SuSE style?00:05
oloughlin75Does 8.04 come with KDE4 or do you have to install it?00:05
mixedI meant to say how do I find out information about my computer? CPU/Mem/distro installed etc00:05
ignoramus[mfk]: cause when you left, it said this: "<-- [mfk] has left this server ("Yummy, like ircing on a cake! [ http://www.bersirc.org/ - Open Source IRC ]")."00:05
[mfk]unagi : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1808141 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21946300:05
[mfk]dunno but i believe you can simply try //quit blah blah blah00:06
ignoramus[mfk]: that works :P00:07
[mfk]eeheh yes :)00:07
sub[t]rnlmixed➜ /proc/ will have your information. i.e cat /proc/cpuinfo , also look to lshw,lspci,df -h,free -m.  kinfocenter for a gui00:07
[mfk]okay i've to go to bed here 1.0700:07
[mfk]thank you all for the help00:07
ignoramussub[t]rnl: crap, i never knew about kinfocenter before!  Where in the menu is it, or can it only be accessed via terminal or Run command?00:08
[mfk]ignoramus: i will follow you suggestion about the manual installation (for the USB bootup trouble). However i'm going to read the thread i've printed about loading Kubuntu on external USB drive00:09
ignoramus[mfk]: good luck to you, kind sir00:09
mixedsub[t]rnl, thanks for the info, I don't see anything similar to I think is :/sysinfo on SuSE, I'll figure it out later, thanks, im outie00:09
sub[t]rnlnot sure, most apps I access via cli and suspend into background.  It could be in the kmenu00:09
unagii cant seem to get gpsdrive to work00:09
unagii cant get it to zoom out00:09
unagiat least i now know u have to gpsd /dev/ to get it to work00:11
oloughlin75Does konquerer work with gmail.00:12
boblenyHow do I determine the amount of RAM currentlly installed on my computer?00:13
snarksterbobleny: open a konsole and type free00:13
snarksteryah free00:14
Doctor_Nicki closed the names window by accident in konversation00:15
Doctor_Nickhow do i open it up again00:15
snarksterDoctor_Nick: ctrl+h00:16
Doctor_Nicktoo late, figured it out00:16
snarkstergood for you00:16
boblenysnarkster, the part of the out put that says, "used", is that the amount of RAM that my system is using?00:17
snarksterif you want more information use man free and it will explain it all to you00:17
mefisto__error when trying to start konqueror or kaffeine: Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/i386/dl-machine.h: 550: elf_machine_rel_relative: Assertion `((reloc->r_info) & 0xff) == 8' failed!00:17
snarksteryou can open konq and type man:/free00:17
snarkstermefisto__: thats not good00:18
boblenysnarkster, I just installed a new memory chip, and according to the, "used part", I am using more ram than I had before???00:18
snarksterbobleny: rightyou just upgraded memory right?00:18
mefisto__snarkster: can you suggest something? or hint at what is causing the error?00:18
oloughlin75How do I get .wma to play? 95% of my library is wma00:19
snarksterbobleny: if you just upgraded adding more momory then you will use more memory automatically00:19
boblenysnarkster: lol... How?00:19
snarkstermefisto__: nope if it breaks like that I usually just re-install00:19
sub[t]rnlbobleny➜ gnu/linux tries to cache and buffer as much memory as possible.  It does this to be more efficient.  the line you'll want to pay attention too from free -m is the buffers/cache line, to get a grasp on what is "actually" available00:20
snarksterbobleny: did you install more memory?00:20
boblenysnarkster: Yes.00:20
snarksterbobleny: see sub[t]rnl statement00:21
mefisto__snarkster: is it possible that memory-intensive tasks (encoding a dvd) could cause this? (I'm hoping everything will be ok when the encode is finished)00:21
snarksteryah that could be.. your using alot of memory right now00:21
mefisto__snarkster: well that's something to hope for00:22
oloughlin75How do I get amarok to play wma's?00:23
boblenysub[t]rnl: So, your saying that on the, "-/+ buffers/cache:", under used, that is how much ram I am actually using?00:24
FrauHansenhi guys. is there a command to switch between virtual desktops, so that i can use it with xbindkeys?00:25
boblenysub[t]rnl: Does windows do that?00:25
sub[t]rnlif linux needs more memory that it has free after cache and buffering, it will let go of some of the buffer00:25
sub[t]rnlbobleny➜ not as well as linux does, no.  trust me, its a feature00:25
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats00:25
snarksterFrauHansen: are you kde3 or kde400:26
oloughlin75ubotu i install the restricted already00:26
snarksterFrauHansen: look in settings your find what your looking for00:26
snarksteroloughlin75: ubotu is a bot00:26
FrauHansensnarkster: kde4 installed as well, but just to check progress from time to time00:27
oloughlin75snarkster: I installed the restricted already00:27
boblenysub[t]rnl: would you happen to know about how much RAM the average Ubuntu  user uses?00:27
snarksteroloughlin75: what does amarok say when you try to play the file00:27
oloughlin75No decoder found00:28
oloughlin75no availible decoder00:28
sub[t]rnlbobleny➜ no sir00:29
sub[t]rnlbobleny➜ sudo apt-get htop, and use it to monitor memory usage, if your looking for hogs and trying to slim your system.00:29
crimsunI recommend exmap instead.00:30
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boblenyOK, thanks!00:34
theunixgeekHow do I connect objects in Kivio?00:35
dmitrig01Hey everyone00:37
dmitrig01I have a Dell dimension XPS that I want to install kubuntu on.  Which version of kubuntu do I stick on it (intel x64 or amd)00:38
biovoreintel 64 is AMD64  there the same thing.00:40
mejymejyi am trying a gutsy install on an amd64 with an nvidia fx 5200 and getting a freeze up after initial bootup... i think it is the vcard00:40
RoboCopany debian repository that can install 'inspircd' on *buntu ?00:40
mejymejyive read some similar problems on posts, but didnt find a solution...00:40
sub[t]rnlmejymejy➜ try an alternate cd and text mode.00:40
biovoredisable the splash00:40
mejymejyyeah i used the alternate install00:41
sub[t]rnlah, then read biovore00:41
snarksterim not sure but cant you use the -vga switch00:41
mejymejyeverything went ok... then booting up gets to the end of the status bar loader and freezes00:41
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Chris2048Tips on wiping a hdd, that doesn't work - bass speaker?00:41
snarksterare you sure it freezes00:41
mejymejyyeah ive tried cntrl alt f1, cntrl alt <-00:42
biovoresome nvidia graphics cards are not complatiable with the framebuffer stuff on ubuntu.. need to disable the quite splash.00:42
unagianyone know how to get gps data into google earth?00:42
snarksterhmm google earth doesnt even run on my ocmputer00:42
sub[t]rnlwell, if you see the splash screen and a moving progress bar, then it will be ok.  If it doesn't do anything after the progress bar, it sounds like kdm isn't getting loaded due to a bad xorg.conf00:43
snarksterthere is no easy way to get 3d acceleration support on my laptop00:43
mejymejyactually, i am using gnome... sorry... the ubuntu channel is crammed00:43
snarksteroh cant help you then. :)00:44
mejymejybut i get a black screen with the logo and then sometimes it makes it to the orangy one, but nothing will come up00:44
snarkstergnome leaves a bad taste in my mouth00:44
mejymejywhy would you suggest kde?00:44
mejymejyi havent used it in a long time...00:44
snarksteri dont suggest kde.. :)00:45
snarksterI just love kde and thats what i use..00:45
mejymejyfair enough00:45
oloughlin75KDE4 is freakishly large00:45
snarksterbut its nice00:45
mejymejyso you think disabling theh splah will help?00:45
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mejymejythats in xorg.conf right?00:46
oloughlin75windows take up too much space on my tiny screen -.-00:46
snarksterafter updating it it works alot better.00:46
biovoresplash is in grub.conf00:46
biovoreis a kernel option00:46
mejymejyoh right thx00:46
biovorebasicly in grub.. delete the quite splash and replace with verbose.. then the kernel will boot text mode00:46
RoboCopsomeone asked me. i have a laptop  HP pavilion DV9575eo. Had windows vista installed on it... have installed Ubuntu now... things works fine.. except the graphics isnt very good really.. movies has less details than on windows vista. is there a way to check for a driver via the interface or do i have to go look manually. is there a auto-detect plug-and-play thingy or something.00:47
oloughlin75How do I play wma on Amarok? It is telling me that there is no decoder availible, and I have installed the restricted00:47
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snarksteroloughlin75: need to add the medibuntu repo and get the win32 codecs00:48
biovoresome wma have DRM on them that can't play on anything but microsoft approved devices00:48
oloughlin75My files arent DRMed00:48
oloughlin75they were playing on PCLinux00:49
oloughlin75my mp3s work - but only like 10% of my library are mp3s00:49
biovoreprobably missing a xine library or something..00:51
biovoreamarok uses xine as its backend.. (If I am not mistaken)00:51
oloughlin75do you know what library it might be/>?00:51
sub[t]rnloloughlin75➜ w32codecs is the package your after00:54
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oloughlin75"used by other packes... might be obsolete...00:55
biovoreI think w32codecs is in on of the media ubuntu repos..00:55
sub[t]rnl!info w32codecs00:56
ubotuPackage w32codecs does not exist in gutsy00:56
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org00:57
frank23w32codecs is in medibuntu00:57
oloughlin75how do you install .deb?00:59
sub[t]rnlsudo dpkg -i00:59
frank23sudo dpkg -i file.deb00:59
oloughlin75nvm you just open the file01:00
frank23or right-click it and there's an option01:00
oloughlin75so simple!01:00
oloughlin75YEAH! Thanks for the help everyone :) Iv got my wireless, mouse, and music all working now :)01:01
Daisuke_Idoand it just gets better from here01:09
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oloughlin75this is the only distro that my function keys work -- some of them at least01:09
oloughlin75volume down and mute work, but volume up only goes to 12%01:10
oloughlin75the play pause stop next and prev work which is what i missed from windows01:10
Daisuke_Idoi have to wonder: do the people that come by here to get help represent a real cross-section of all *buntu users?  if so, then *buntu has a long way to go, but it's getting there.01:10
oloughlin75I think the people who come here have to know how to get here :/01:11
mefisto__how can I get a list of what has recently been installed/removed by apt, adept, etc?01:11
biovoredpkg -l will show all installed packages..01:11
biovoreI think there is a apt log somewhere as well01:11
oloughlin75I love KDE01:19
sub[t]rnlmefisto__➜ /var/log/dpkg.log01:19
sub[t]rnloloughlin75➜ :> me 201:19
mefisto__thanks sub[t]rnl01:20
reaperdragonis there any software for cdma phones like version or alltel. I mean it would be great to know if there islinux software that will work with cdma phones01:20
sub[t]rnlfor using them as a modem? like wvdial?01:21
oloughlin75I had a windows program for motorola phones on windows01:21
reaperdragonlike txting and stuff01:21
reaperdragonthere software for other types of phones on kubuntu but not for cdma phones01:21
sub[t]rnlnot sure01:21
FaiDillinGeranyone knows how to install xen for kubuntu 7.10 ?01:25
Daisuke_Ido!find xen01:26
ubotuFound: libxen3.1, libxen3.1-dev, aide-xen, autopkgtest-xenlvm, dtc-xen (and 114 others)01:26
Daisuke_Ido!info xen01:26
ubotuPackage xen does not exist in gutsy01:26
oloughlin75Is there a way to get gmail to work with konqueror? I would rather not get firefox just for mail01:26
frank23FaiDillinGer: there is a ubuntu-xen-desktop package01:27
FaiDillinGerwill it work on kubuntu too ?01:27
Daisuke_Idoand xen-utils-common replaced plain old xen01:27
sub[t]rnloloughlin75➜ konqueror -> tools -> change browser identity01:27
frank23FaiDillinGer: yeah ubuntu and kubuntu can run all the same programs01:28
sub[t]rnli use other -> firefox, and it works well.01:28
oloughlin75thanks sub[t]rnl01:28
oloughlin75now to find a good background :)01:28
Daisuke_Idothat was random01:31
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mojosoundI am dualbooting xp and kubuntu.  Is there a way to use virtualization to run the current xp install through kubuntu?01:33
cprmptwhat is a good program for monitoring system resources usage?01:35
sub[t]rnlnot a current install, that I'm aware of01:35
biovorevmware might.. its kinda ify though..01:35
frank23mojosound: i think that is possible but really not recommended. windows has to survive the shock of booting under completely new (virtual) hardware01:35
frank23mojosound: I never tried it01:35
tzangerhow does one make an initrd for a custom kernel?  I thought it was mkinitrd01:35
tzanger(good evening, by the way :-)01:36
mojosoundjust a though - don't really want to boot back to windows01:36
biovoreyes mkinitrd is the command01:36
FaiDillinGeris xen the best virtualisation software for kubuntu ?01:36
ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.01:37
flamiHi after a while of searching I found that i pretty much have this bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/4195501:37
frank23FaiDillinGer: I've only used vmware and virtualbox they both work well01:37
cprmptIs there a package that has graphical system resources monitoring?01:37
flamianyone have an idea of solveing it ?01:38
FaiDillinGerok frank2301:38
frank23FaiDillinGer: and you can get them with the package manager01:38
cprmptoh right, and is KDE4 any good?  I havent tried it yet01:39
flamicprmpt, well i lacks a lot of software at the moment01:39
cprmptwell, does kdevelop work under it?01:39
biovorekdevelop is kde301:40
cprmptso no.01:40
frank23cprmpt: I just let others struggle with KDE 4.0 and will really try it when 4.1 gets out01:40
biovorewell it will run.. but I don't think it setup uet for KDE4 development01:40
flamiwell itll work , but youll pretty much end up filling the gaps with kde3 apps01:40
oloughlin75MASSIVE icons and stuff in KDE401:41
flamispeaking of kde3 ... its driving me crazy01:41
flami(looky uppy ;) )01:42
flamihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/41955 <- got hit by that01:42
flamiI must be missing something ... but cant figure out what01:42
flamiI can use it as root01:43
flamimaybe i have some premission problem ?01:43
tzangerwow apt-file says yaird's the only kubunutu package that gives me mkinird, and it's really poor, yikes01:45
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apollonhi lerissa01:47
dgrantI can't seem to rip from dvd anymore, my dvd does not show up as a list of titles, it shows the VIDEO_TS directory instead. Anyone else have this problem?01:48
frank23dgrant: what do you use to rip a dvd?01:51
oloughlin75Library files for "libpython2.5.so" not found in paths.01:52
oloughlin75I cant modify my monitor settings, what should i do?01:52
dgrantfrank23: oops I should have said that this is in k3b01:52
dgrantfrank23: I can use dvd::rip no problem but dvd::rip does not allow me to transcode many titles on the dvd at once.01:53
dgrantfrank23: k3b is nice because it does the whole dvd in one shot01:53
Xbehaveis there a way to automatically run a script when in range of a wireless network? i.e i connect then i run VPN script automatically]01:53
frank23dgrant: I've never used k3b to rip a dvd. I always use k9copy01:53
frank23oloughlin75: how are you trying to modify monitor settings?01:54
dgrantfrank23: can that encode to divx or xvid?01:54
dgrantfrank23: I thought that was specialized to go from an 8Gig DVD to a 4Gig DVD01:54
oloughlin75System settings -> Monitor and Display01:54
frank23dgrant: I think i used it to transcode01:55
Dr_willisive used that dvd::rip befor. and Mythtv.01:55
Dr_willisbut those are just front ends01:56
frank23oloughlin75: you could make sure that the python2.5 package is installed but it should already be installed01:58
oloughlin75sudo apt-get install python2.5?01:59
oloughlin75already newest version :/01:59
mefisto__dgrant: yes, k9copy can copy/shrink a dvd, or rip to a file, and you can tweak the encoding to output in different formats02:16
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ubuntuHey guys I need big help.. I installed windows XP on a seperate partition on the same drive as Linux was on, and now I cant access Linux02:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about recover - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:28
frank23ubuntu: try that link02:28
tarinanyone know anything about installing the server version of gutsy02:29
Xbehave!find libXm02:30
frank23i think that is the section you need02:30
ubotuFound: libruby1.8, libxml++2.6-dev, libxml++2.6-doc, libxml++2.6c2a, libxml-commons-resolver1.1-java (and 122 others)02:30
Xbehave!find libXm.so.302:30
ubotuPackage/file libxm.so.3 does not exist in gutsy02:31
Xbehave!find libXm.so02:31
ubotuPackage/file libxm.so does not exist in gutsy02:31
Dr_willisi see no  just 'libxm'02:33
frank23libxm might be in libmotif302:35
tarinanyone know anything about installing the server version of gutsy02:36
frank23tarin: I never tried it but what's your problem?02:38
tarinwell everything is command line until i can get an internet connection to work so that i can install kde02:39
momalHey I am having trouble getting audio working after few package updates the other day here is the info on my problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=69288402:40
tarinproblem is i keep getting a sendamail error when i try to access the net interfaces to setup the eth002:40
fumanchutarin, i think the server version comes without kde or whatever and you shouldn't install it .. that's because you don't need it in a server..02:41
tarinyeah i know but im not very good in the command line yet02:42
tarinim still fairly new to linux02:42
fumanchuwhy don't install the regular version then..02:42
frank23tarin: you could install kubuntu first then install the ubuntu-server package if you just want to try things out02:43
tarini am going to be running a webserver02:43
fumanchuyou can have the webserver anyway..02:43
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tarini know i can but i want to use an actual server version02:55
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JKUbuntuhello people03:15
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brian_Hey I am trying to copy files from my root hard drive to my back up hard drive but it is telling me "Access is denied"03:49
MrJoeyMake sure you're doing it as superuser, for one thing03:50
brian_I believe I am03:50
brian_I am doing it as root03:50
MrJoeyFor instance, in the terminal, sudo su, then cp -r old_files /media/something/backup_files03:50
MrJoeyAlso, type mount03:51
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MrJoeyand make sure that rw is one of the options on the target drive03:51
MrJoeyIf you're writing to NTFS, you may run into trouble because NTFS write support is quite new03:51
brian_It's just ext303:51
MrJoeyMount should give you listings, one of which might be:  /dev/sdb3 on /media/sdb3 type ext3 (rw)03:52
MrJoeyI mean 'mount03:52
MrJoeyIf it says (ro), you won't be able to write to it03:52
brian_?? Its mounted is /proc03:53
brian_What does that mean?03:53
MrJoeyWell, there's other stuff, too03:53
MrJoey/dev/sda2 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)03:53
MrJoeyproc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev03:53
MrJoeyThat's what my 'mount' starts with03:53
MrJoeyLook for the destination device in there03:53
needhelphi, what is needed for my apps to auto send an email? eg: bacula..03:59
Tinasonis it possible to resize the superkaramba themes? (without editing the .theme files manually)04:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bsmtp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:04
rkroetchI just reinstalled Kubuntu 7.1 and fully upgraded. Now whenever I do anything but update with apt (or adept naturally) I get a segfault04:16
rkroetchsudo apt-get check; Reading package lists... Done; Segmentation fault (core dumped)04:16
rkroetchAny suggestions?04:16
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Lari^^Absurdo oi coco! :D04:20
Absurdohahaha oi cocozão!04:20
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Lari^^alguem jah viu o vido do cocozinho maravilha?04:22
Lari^^nda a ver!! desculpa gente! :)04:22
AbsurdoLari^^ acho que ninguém fala português aqui..04:22
Lari^^eu sei04:22
Absurdodã, agente fala04:22
Lari^^foi só pra zuaaaaa04:23
Lari^^ah tri04:23
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hydrogen!br | Lari^^04:23
ubotuLari^^: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.04:23
hydrogen!br | Absurdo04:23
ubotuAbsurdo: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.04:23
Absurdoubotu eu não quero ajuda04:23
Lari^^Absurdo ahn?04:23
Lari^^hydrogen hi! :)04:24
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kaanhey everyone04:44
kaanI'm new to Kubuntu04:44
kaanand need to develop a simple ray-tracing program04:44
kaanwhich compiler do you guys recommend?04:45
kaanthnx absurdo04:45
kaanoh c++04:45
kaanand I love kubuntu so far04:45
Absurdoi learning python :D04:45
kaanhow do I install gcc/g++????04:45
MrJoeysudo apt-get install build-essential04:45
biovoreapt-get install build-essentials04:45
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MrJoeyThen to install libraries, you do sudo apt-get install foo-dev, where foo is the name of the library04:46
kaanwhich libraries?04:46
MrJoeyapt-cache search foo will let you search for stuff (though you may want to pipe it into less if the list gets long)  e.g.:  apt-cache search foo | less04:46
kaanhm ok04:47
MrJoeyWhat will you raytrace to?  The screen?  A picture file?04:47
kaanyep a picture file04:47
MrJoeyOkay, if anything, you might need a library for the target picture format (unless you build the structure manually)04:47
kaanbut i guess it would be cool if i could render it in OpenGL04:47
kaanah gotcha04:47
kaanthnx mrjoey04:48
MrJoeyThen you would install libgl1-mesa-dev (if you want to use OpenGL)04:48
MrJoeyI found that out by typing `apt-cache search opengl | less` followed by using some background knowledge of the Linux software stack04:48
MrJoey(to pick the right one)04:49
kaanokay so I installed g++ how do I run it???04:49
kaanjust use Kate and compile?04:49
kaanis there an IDE for it?04:50
mefisto__apt-cache show package will give you more info, if you need a longer description04:50
stdinkaan: Kate is a decent IDE for C/C++ with highlighting and indentation, kdevelop is a more in-depth IDE with features like code completion. But for a simple app you can just write it an any editor and do "g++ main.cpp -o myapp" then run it with "./myapp"04:55
kaansweet i was just checking out Kate but I'm gonna need something more than simple... so thank you04:56
WeedGrinchWhen i try to copy files onto my flash drive it tells me "I/O error" any help?04:58
mefisto__WeedGrinch: is it mounted? can you see files on it?05:00
kaanwhat filesystem does your flash drive use? Format?05:00
WeedGrinchi dk the format05:01
WeedGrinchand yea, i can see what is o it05:01
WeedGrinchi tried as root, and no luck05:01
WeedGrinchill try on KDE :(05:02
mefisto__WeedGrinch: can you create a new file on the disk? try creating just an empty text file05:02
stevan__how do i install a .tar05:02
stratman4300stevan | tar -xvf /filenamehere will expand the file in it's current location05:04
uppitya .tar is just another compression form05:05
pramodi use kubuntu 7.10 along with windows XP... how i set the default boot os to Windows XP?05:08
stratman4300pramod...  what are you using for a boot loader??05:09
MrJoeyedit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change default to the OS number (as in, the OS list, the top item being zero)05:09
MrJoey(If you're using GRUB)05:09
pramodokies thanxxx05:09
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mmancecan someone please correct this command for me05:29
mmanceapt-get install linux-headers-'uname -r'05:29
c1|freakyhi all. umm, how can I add support for different video codecs etc.? generally, all multimedia stuff?05:30
mmancei tried it with double quotes also05:30
ubotuUbuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications05:30
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vrdiceoh good, this one isn't taken05:34
vrdicecan anyone recommend a decent ftp client for kubuntu?05:35
biovorekonqueror works fairly well05:37
ethan961I was still writing that...05:37
vrdicesomething a little more specific to login with, upload/edit/change files etc05:37
biovorekonqueror does all that05:37
vrdicealong the lines of cuteftp would be cool, similar gui05:38
ethan961split view is excellent for that in konq05:38
biovorefireftp in mozila works ok as well05:38
biovorekonqueror also supports SFTP05:38
vrdiceah really, ok one sec, i'll give it a look05:39
nick_i need help in python05:39
biovoretry #python05:39
nick_i need help in python, how can i make a list with 99 spots?05:39
biovoremake a 1 dementional array with 99 spots in it..05:39
biovoreask in #python05:40
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GSF1200Sim trying to get a bootloader installed and im finding it impossible05:46
JavaBeansDoes anybody know how to retrieve the Window Decorations for OpenOffice after installing compiz?05:57
voidmagein ccsm, set the window decoration rules to !(class="OpenOffice.org 2.3")05:59
voidmageJavaBeans: you'll of course have to change that whenever a new version comes out05:59
voidmageoh wait05:59
voidmageretrieve, not remove05:59
voidmageignore me.05:59
neezenglish or spanish support?06:01
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ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.06:01
josefighehe no problem i speak spanish and english ;)06:02
Luriaso, wierd thing, kmail pops up with a composer windows when i plug in the ac adapter.06:11
GSF1200Sanyone here know how to fix grub problems/?06:22
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philip__to o might sound like stupid question but how do u update kubuntu 7.04 to 7.1006:28
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SJrXOn the live CD is there any programs that use the webcam?06:57
jussi01SJrX: kopete does iirc07:19
SJrXunfortunatetly Kubuntu doesn't boot properly07:20
SJrXso oh well07:20
nevilleWhat do you mean by doesn't boot properly?07:21
SJrXwell one it fails to selecet the right xserver video driver07:21
SJrXthen even with that fixed07:22
SJrXstartx just tanks after "Initializing Desktop"07:22
SJrXthe whole kdeinit thingie disappears and I'm left only with the blue screen07:22
yasahiroi tried going to stage6 divx.com.. it says try using mplayer... but... how? :(07:31
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maduserthrough adept07:32
yasahirowell.. i know adept... isnt that a program to select programs to install?07:33
maduseryeah get mplayer through it07:33
jussi01yasahiro: you need the mozilla-mplayer package07:36
jussi01!info mozilla-mplayer07:36
ubotumozilla-mplayer (source: mplayerplug-in): MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.40-5ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 505 kB, installed size 1760 kB07:36
cicerohello room07:42
ciceroi have a question about anti-virus software and such.07:43
cicerodoes kubuntu need them, and if so is there url you could point me to?07:43
jussi01!virus | cicero07:45
ubotucicero: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2107:45
yasahirooh... thank you ^^07:46
yasahiroits working now, even though its telling me to update.. *sigh*07:46
jussi01yasahiro: :)07:47
X9nLinuxXAnybody here ever try to install feisty on an old Mac G3 tower?  Did it work decent?  (am downloading it right now to give it a try if possible)07:49
jussi01X9nLinuxX: I havent, but I do run gutsy on a g4 ibook, and it runs no probs07:49
X9nLinuxXI tried messing with dapper on that tower some months ago ... didn't know what I was doing a bit... so thinking of giving this another shot with at least a little newer software07:50
jussi01X9nLinuxX: I really would recomend going with gutsy07:51
cicerojussi01: thanx for the info. :) the more i know about linux the more i like.  :)  4th day running linux/kubuntu.  can my system read a ntfs harddisk?07:52
jussi01cicero: yes07:52
jussi01!ntfs | cicero07:52
ubotucicero: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE07:52
X9nLinuxXjussi01: what advantage is there in gutsy?07:52
jussi01X9nLinuxX: gutsy gives the latest versions of programs, with out being extra heavy. Personally I would start with a very light DE on that machine - you may have more luck. (see the output form the bot)07:53
ubotufluxbuntu is a LPAE-standard compliant, Ubuntu-based derivative that maintains the goal of running on a wide range of mobile devices and computers (low-end & high-end). It is lightweight, swift and efficient. | Support Channel: #fluxbuntu on freenode | Homepage: http://fluxbuntu.org/07:53
X9nLinuxXjussi01: What about KDE with it??07:55
X9nLinuxXany problems using it there?07:55
X9nLinuxXum... never heard of 'fluxbuntu'07:56
jussi01X9nLinuxX: kde may work, but it may be slow- how much ram does the machine have?07:56
X9nLinuxX512 megs right now07:56
jussi01X9nLinuxX: ok, kde should be fine ten, but if it is slow, I would give fluxbuntu a go :)07:57
jussi01X9nLinuxX: and Im betting there are many good things you havent heard of. ;)07:57
cicerojussi01: k. i hope this isnt a stupid question. once i mount the other disk, people on the network using ms wil still be able to acess that disk as part of their system?07:58
* X9nLinuxX is a 'WOOKIE' on this stuff the last few months07:58
jussi01cicero: of course :D07:59
cpk1is there a cli way to upgrade from fiesty to gutsy? i dont like how adept likes to crash all the time08:00
cicerojussi01:  keen. i really should have switched to linux a lont time ago...08:00
cicerojussi01: thanx. bbl. have a good day, juss.08:01
lpetrasAnyone tell me what the default passwd is for the kdewallet ?08:04
jussi01lpetras: there isnt one - you make it on the first time08:06
lpetrashmm... so what do I use as a passwd the first time ?08:07
X9nLinuxX(whatever you want)  :)08:09
lpetrasnope that don't work, since it asks for a passwd to change the passwd :-(08:10
CrashedI'm so pissed :(08:10
CrashedKubuntu isn't able to blank out one of my CD-RWs.08:11
Crashedcdrecord: Cannot blank disk, aborting.08:12
CrashedWhy can't it erase my disc?08:12
yasahirothat my friend, would make a fantastic password08:15
yasahiroif only one could remember it08:15
CrashedWhat's up with CDRECORD not erasing my disc?08:15
sunrockhello - anyone here using *ubuntu on an macbook who can help me with sound-problems?08:16
ciceroreHello. i am getting: hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000 when i try to mount one of the drives.08:18
sunrockhello - anyone here using *ubuntu on an macbook who can help me with sound-problems?08:20
cal_HI, does anyone know anything about ISAPnPTools?08:20
jussi01!repeat | sunrock08:21
ubotusunrock: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience08:21
jussi01sunrock: what sound card is it?08:23
sunrockjussi01: that i honestly don't quite know08:23
sunrockjussi01: that i honestly don't quite know08:23
cal_I need help getting Kubuntu to recognize my old soundblaster AWE64. (am I new? well, I have, just today dumped XP and loaded Kubuntu so don't expect a bit of savvy.08:24
jussi01sunrock: lspci in a terminal should tell you08:24
sunrockjussi01: i have this strange problem with crackeling on the left channel - all the fixes in wikis and co do not help08:24
jussi01!sound | cal_08:24
ubotucal_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP308:24
cal_ubotu thanks I will try now08:25
jussi01!bot | cal_08:25
ubotucal_: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots08:25
ubotuSo, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.08:25
sunrockIntel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Aud08:25
sunrockio Controller (rev 02)08:25
jussi01sunrock: ok, I assume you have followed the !intelhda tutorial?08:26
ubotuFor fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto08:26
sunrockthere are several methods described in the net - i tried the ones editing modprobe.d options and with the position_fix for 1 and 2 - it then worked for about 3 restarts and then it started crackeling again08:28
sunrockatm i have a look at the hdaintelsoundhowto - will try and report ;)08:29
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines08:37
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jpatrickstdin: oi09:11
yasahiroim having a bit of trouble here...09:21
yasahirowhenever im playing sauerbraten... or last time i tried to convert a movie... my kubuntu pc shut down... all by itself...09:22
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yasahirohello zakame09:25
zakameherro yasahiro09:25
yasahiroi seem to have run into a bit of a problem... think you could help?09:25
zakamewhat's the prob? :)09:26
yasahirowell... last time i tried converting a video, my computer shut down... all by itself...09:26
yasahiroat the time... i figured it was just something wrong with the program, and forgot about it. now, i cant play a game without it shutting down..09:27
yasahiroany ideas?09:29
yasahironow, my worst fear is that my processor is overheating..09:31
yasahirohello zakame09:33
jpatrickyasahiro: sorry, I've had no experience converting videos09:33
zakame_are there any messages that come up before your computer shuts down?09:34
yasahironothing at all09:34
zakame_hmm so I just shutdown, powers off?09:34
yasahiropretty much09:34
yasahirono confirmations...09:34
yasahirojust... shuts down09:35
zakame_that's weird09:35
yasahirogranted, it does go through the process, which is all fine and good, but i dont want it to shut down... lol09:35
zakame_ah so you still see the shutdown screen09:35
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yasahirowell, i see the kubuntu logo, and the meter as it shuts down...09:38
zakame_i see09:40
zakame_hmm so there's something triggering a shutdown09:40
yasahiroi fear its my processor overheating :(09:41
jpatrickyeah, it's probably doing the right thing09:42
jpatrickyasahiro: what does "acpi -t" give?09:43
fumanchudid you know that?09:45
stdinfumanchu: what exactly is the point of posting that here, just curious?09:46
jpatrickfumanchu: yes, we knew that09:46
stdinit's not as if everyone in here is a kernel developer and can hop on to the issue09:46
yasahiroThermal 1: ok, 44.0 degrees C09:46
stdinit just seems to me that people want to spread some fear about, as if it was the first bug to ever be in the kernel09:47
fumanchustdin, you can always use information to your advantage .. and change your kernel version to one that's not affected...09:47
cpk1I was in the middle of upgrading to gutsy and it looks like adept zombified, can I kill it and then restart without causing problems?09:48
stdinfumanchu: why? I'd think it'd be easier not to run the C code that exploits the bug and to just wait for the bug to be fixed09:48
fumanchuwhy? .... cause it may be exploited ?? maybe.. whatever.. bye..09:49
jpatrickfumanchu: people are working on it tho :-)09:49
stdinfumanchu: may be, _if_ you run that code. I choose not to :)09:49
yasahirois thermal 1 the processor?09:50
fumanchujpatrick, well.. everyone knows that..09:50
fumanchui don't understand stdin position about this... "spread fear"... whatever...09:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:51
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »09:52
stdinfumanchu: because you know people are working on it, so why publicise it?09:52
fumanchuwhy not?09:53
stdinbecause it scares people who don't know any better, makes them think that there's some easy way for an outsider to gain root access. when that clearly is not the case09:53
fumanchuso.. there shouldn't be news in television cause it scares people .. you should not be informed about things that concern you.. ok. gbye09:55
stdinno, but people look at news to gain information. you're shoving it in their face with no context, that's the difference09:57
fumanchuyou're funny..09:57
stdinnice to know09:57
twosouls82how do I add another directory like "/usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/" but then with our foundation's settings?10:09
cpk1upgrading to gutsy via adept is horrific10:33
yolnizzleplease what code do i use to kill a process10:34
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal10:34
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twosouls82yolnizzle: look at man:kill and man:killall10:35
rudd-oyolnizzle, open up ksysguard (system monitor) and kill the process from the process table there10:36
yolnizzlei want to kill xteddy what code do i use [ i need to run it please ]10:37
JohnFluxyolnizzle: killall xteddy10:37
yolnizzlethanks john10:37
JohnFluxyolnizzle: also pressing   ctrl+alt+esc   then click on the window10:37
yolnizzle10ks john the kill all did it. i was using only killxteddy before10:38
rudd-owhat's the server for efnet?10:38
yolnizzleis there a way i can play atlantik off line ?10:39
yolnizzleis there a way i can play atlantik off line ?10:46
kaminixIs there anyway to unload the flashplugins until patches have arrived? Don't want it uninstalled since I'd like it to be updated through aptitude full-upgrade10:51
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EqualizerBonjour  Tlm11:06
ubotuKDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde411:07
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_Dekster_Нарок как аську на убунту найти.)))11:20
_Dekster_How find GAIM on Ubuntu?11:21
Tm_T!pidgin | _Dekster_11:22
ubotu_Dekster_: pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It is available in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), but not previous versions. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.011:22
_Dekster_ok, thanks)))11:23
apparleCan anyone help me with the script http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31002011:43
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apparleapparle: Some body please help me11:50
SlimeyPeteit'd be best to ask the author of the script, apparle11:52
SlimeyPetethough we can try to help if you tell us what the problem is11:52
apparleplease help me with the script12:04
Tm_T!helpme | apparle12:05
ubotuapparle: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience12:05
apparleTm_T: Trying for last 3 days and I am a bit frustrated. Sorry12:06
Tm_Tapparle: I know the feeling, sorry I can't help you more12:06
SlimeyPeteapparle: what is the problem with the script?12:08
apparleSlimeyPete: I t is running fine but I am unable to use it. I also read the help??12:09
hardredmanhi all12:09
apparleSlimeyPete: Can you tell me how to use it12:11
SlimeyPeteapparle: give me a moment, I will try to figure it out12:12
SlimeyPeteapparle: the script doesn't work at all for me!12:15
apparleSlimeyPete: what does it do?12:16
SlimeyPeteit gives me a syntax error12:16
SlimeyPeteit's *supposed* to download apt packages to the local machine I think12:16
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xxBasYxxhow can i find version of installed KDE?12:51
xxBasYxxif is it KDE3.5 or KDE412:51
UnksixxBasYxx: on any kde program, press help -> about kde12:54
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Jado`hi, i have problems on my laptop with wifi since i installed kubuntu13:17
Jado`is there somebody to help ?13:17
Dr_WillisIt all depends on the chipset...13:18
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs13:18
Dr_Willisand i dont use wireless much. sorry13:18
Jado`actually it's not detected, and when i boot with windows, hardware is detected and i can connect to the point access, but i cannot obtain an IP Adress13:19
Dr_WillisIf the card is not detected. You will need to figure out its chipset, and what extra drivers you may need to install for it.13:20
Dr_Willissome very new chipsets/cards may just not be supported yet.13:20
Jado`ok, but why it doesn't work on windows since i installed linux ?13:21
Jado`even when i plug a network cable, nothing happens13:21
Dr_WillisLinux and windows should not be affecting each others hardware.. you may want to try powering down and booting to windows. Not doing any 'resume/hibernate' stuff. that may be goofingup things.13:22
ForgeAusactually DrWillis it might be a stateful behaviour thing? if one puts the hardware into a state?13:24
ForgeAusmy computer doesn't seem to support hibernation...13:25
Jado`i powered down and booted on windows, i still have my network problems (cable and wifi)13:25
Dr_WillisForgeAus,  posible - but ive seen that happen ONCE on all these machines iv4e had over the years.. and it was a soundcard that wouldent work right if i booted to windows first, then soft/rebooted to linux. a 'cold' boot to either os., would work fine13:25
Dr_WillisI would find it more likely that a cable/router/somthing else has goofed up.13:26
Dr_Williswired networking is not working under linux either?13:27
Jado`under windows it doesn't work anymore13:27
Jado`under linux i didn't try13:28
Jado`but i think it should work13:28
Dr_Willisif it fails to work under linux and windows - i would think its either a hardware issue.. or some odd config issue. Like trying to get the same ip as another machine on the lan13:32
john_is kde4 ready for production?13:36
kaminixWhat are all these new KDE packages in the repos? Why are they being updated?13:50
jpatrickkaminix: new kde release?13:51
kaminixIs it? 3.5.9?13:51
kaminixNo, still 3.5.813:51
CrashedKubuntu is reporting that I have nothing in cdrom013:51
Crashedoh, there we go.13:52
kaminixWhy won't katapult start KMail? The Run...-like thing in the KMenu does it.13:52
jpatrickkaminix: no .desktop file for it13:53
jpatrickkaminix: run Kontact instead (which hsa one)13:53
kaminixBut if I run Kontact I won't have the KMail icon in sysbar. :)13:54
fiyawerxanyone have issues with Nicotine from repos? I installed it, but when it runs it just hangs, if you try from the command line you see ' gst.ElementNotFoundError: playbin'13:54
jpatrickkaminix: it's in the options13:54
eMaX_ne1 here knows a little about charts w/ openoffice calc?13:54
kaminixReally? I can make Akregator and KMail get separate icons when starting Kontact?13:55
fiyawerxseems like the package doesn't install all of it's dependencies13:55
kaminixSetting up konqueror-nsplugins (4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2.2) ...   <--- Hoping this'll fix the flash probs :)13:55
CrashedE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied13:55
CrashedWhat's up with that? I'm trying to run apt-get update.13:56
kaminixCrashed: sudo apt-get update13:56
CrashedI get resource temporarily unavailable when using sudo.13:56
kaminixRunning apt or some apt program atm?13:56
kaminixApt can only run as one instance at a time or something. Dunno how it's put in fancy/nerdy words. :)13:57
Crashedkaminix: no clue. I'm not very linux savvy.13:57
CrashedI just edited sources.list13:57
CrashedThen tried to run the update again, and it's throwing me those errors.13:58
CrashedOh, there we go. There was an apt-get process in the background.13:58
CrashedNow I get this problem, which I was trying to fix: 99% [Connecting to ca.archive.ubuntu.com (] [Connecting to buildb13:59
Crashedapt-get is all broken on me :(14:00
CrashedAdept Manager is stuck on 'Waiting for headers (0%)' what the hell did I do? :(14:06
SlimeyPeteCrashed: that's a network problem of some kind.14:08
CrashedReally? I've had no other trouble with the internet.14:10
SlimeyPeteCrashed: could be that the server's down.14:11
SlimeyPetetry pinging it.14:11
CrashedNo response from
frank23Crashed: you can try another mirror14:14
CrashedHow would I do that?14:15
frank23Crashed: in Adept, Adept->Manage repositories14:15
frank23Download from Other... then choose a mirror14:16
CrashedSorry, where is download from other? I'm using 6.10 edgy.14:19
frank23Crashed: oh... maybe that option is not in edgy I don't know14:19
frank23Crashed: deb http://gulus.USherbrooke.ca/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted  this is the server i use and it's working right now14:21
frank23for you it would be edgy not gutsy14:22
frank23if you edit the sources.list file directly that is what the line looks like14:24
frank23with deb at the start14:24
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frank23I don't know how adept in edgy does it exactly14:25
tzangergood morning14:31
tzangerI'm trying to create an initrd using yaird14:31
tzangerit seems a little stupid though... first it didn't like that it couldn't find /dev/mmc, but now it's complaining that it can't deal with the uuid option in my fstab.  is there a simpler way to make an initrd on kubuntu?14:32
oloughlin75How do I turn off the xserverver and go right into command line:?14:36
frank23oloughlin75: sudo invoke-rc.d kdm stop14:36
oloughlin75thank you!14:36
frank23and sudo invoke-rc.d kdm start to get X again14:36
oloughlin75whats the difference between that and startx?14:37
BluesKajHowdy Folks :)14:37
frank23oloughlin75: this stops and starts the kde login manager kdm and that brings along with it X. I don't know the details more than that14:38
tzangerhmm, is there a way to mkinitrd.yaird when using uuids in fstab for xfs?  it doesn't seem to work, and I've not been successful in figuring out how to overcome this.14:40
Alex135whats new in the updates for most of the KDE apps that was recently released14:41
frank23Alex135: you can check the changelogs in adept14:43
Alex135frank23: thx14:44
frank23Alex135: mostly * Stable release update, support new Flash in Konqueror   I guess. It's crazy but when core component of kde changes everything else in kde has to be recompiled14:44
Alex135frank23: hopefully they will hurry up and get kde4.1 up and about... cuz its useless the way it is now14:45
Alex135btw, is hardy worth downloading and installing?14:46
frank23Alex135: are you talking about kde 3.5 or kde 4.0?14:46
Alex135frank23: kde4.014:47
frank23What I pasted was for kde 3.514:47
oloughlin75How do I install libc? The nvidia drivers are telling me I do not have it14:47
Alex135fank23: oh for my question yes i was talking about kde3.514:48
frank23I'll wait for kde 4.1 before switching14:48
frank23I get 700kB/s from my mirror so downloading big updates is not painful14:49
Alex135soon the unaversity i get my internet from might become a mirror for different distros of linux, if so i will have much faster download rates (like instant on everything)14:50
Alex135i mean for updates...14:50
frank23Alex135: that's be nice14:50
oloughlin75How do I install libc? The nvidia drivers are telling me I do not have it14:55
frank23oloughlin75: you definitely have it14:55
oloughlin75the nvidia drivers are telling me i do not14:56
frank23oloughlin75: maybe you need libc6-dev   but why don't you use the nvidia drivers in the ubuntu repository14:58
oloughlin75libc header files not found, please install your distrobutions libc development package?15:01
* BluesKaj wonders if kubuntu has a default "resticted driver" pkg in system settings/advanced , like the pkg for ATI equipped desktops and laptops.15:02
frank23oloughlin75: maybe you need libc6-dev   but why don't you use the nvidia drivers in the ubuntu repository15:02
BluesKajfor nvidia15:02
oloughlin75I installed the nvidia binary x.org driver, but when I watch youtube or something with a lot of motion the screen like twitches15:03
frank23oloughlin75: what card do you have?15:03
Alex135This is going to sound like a n00bish question at first, but Kubuntu has screensavers that take an image of the desktop and morph it / mess around with it right?15:03
BluesKajoloughlin75, check in system settings/advanced for a restricted driver pkg ...that may be the wat to go , if you have that option.15:03
oloughlin75GeForce Go 620015:03
oloughlin75I do not have the restricted devices thing15:04
frank23oloughlin75: the nvidia driver from ubuntu should work fin15:04
siofhi. i have privoxy running. i've changed the config file, so i want to end the privoxy running and restart it. what command do i use to end it?15:04
BluesKajnot restricted devices oloughlin75 , "restricted drivers"15:05
stratman4300siof /etc/init.d/(nameofservicehere) restart15:05
frank23oloughlin75: in system-settings->Advanced->restricted drivers?15:05
siofnice one stratman4300 :)15:05
stratman4300siof oopps....  sudo /etc/init.d/(nameofservicehere) restart15:05
siofok, even better. ;)15:06
oloughlin75All the stuff in system settings tell me that the library files for libpython2.5.so not found in paths15:07
oloughlin75and the restricted drivers isnt there15:07
frank23oloughlin75: did you try reinstalling python2.5 ?15:08
oloughlin75It tells me it is the latest version15:09
frank23oloughlin75: in adept search for python2.5 right where it says installed and choose reinstall15:09
frank23oloughlin75: i meant right-click15:10
oloughlin75i cant right click it? no menu pops up15:11
frank23oloughlin75: just right-click the package name. it doesn't work?15:12
oloughlin75nothing happens when i right click it15:12
frank23oloughlin75: do you run 7.10?15:12
oloughlin75i think i might install 7.10 \15:13
frank23oloughlin75: then you should go to #ubuntu+1 for help15:13
ForgeAusFeisty rocks :)15:24
CrashedTime to try to get this cd burner to work again.15:25
BluesKajCrashed, not listed in sytem settings/advanced/disk&filesystems15:27
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CrashedEr, is that a question?15:28
arcticpenguin380whats better pgp or truecrypt15:28
CrashedOptical Disc BENQ DVD DUAL DW 161015:29
BluesKajCrashed, you said the burner wasn't working ?15:29
Crashed  /media/cdrom015:29
CrashedWell, it's not burning. :P15:29
BluesKajnot good15:29
CrashedI've literally spent the last 10 hours trying to install windows. :(15:29
BluesKajgood that it's listed , not good that it's not burning15:30
BluesKaj10 hrs , why ?15:30
CrashedI've tried multiple things.15:31
CrashedMost of the time was taken by the 4x CD-RW writer.15:31
CrashedOh cool, it actually looks like it's erasing the file now.15:31
BluesKajoooh , an oldie ?15:31
CrashedThe CD-RW is on another PC :P15:31
CrashedThe writer*15:31
CrashedI have two, actually.15:31
CrashedDVD-+RW/CD-+RW on this one15:32
Crashedand an old CD-RW on another one.15:32
CrashedK3b wasn't working on this PC, so I went into the other one to burn XP15:32
CrashedI burned it, popped it in here and it didn't even read the damn cd.15:32
CrashedPopped it back into the other pc and it messed up my computer real bad. It would lock up while trying to read the cd.15:32
CrashedAnd I just popped it back into this one, and told it to erase the cd. Which it *looks* like it's doing.15:33
BluesKajlike wifey's , she's got an old 366mhz HP/celeron/mitsui burner15:33
CrashedErrors :(15:33
BluesKajCrashed, have you got your boot sequence in BIOS set up to look at the cdrom drive first15:34
CrashedThat shouldn't affect me not being able to erase this CD, though.15:34
CrashedI can't delete or write anything to this CD-RW disc.15:35
BluesKajCrashed, have you tried K3B ?15:35
CrashedThat's what I'm using :|15:35
CrashedIt takes 30 minutes to write the iso to the cd on my other computer/burner.15:36
CrashedI've done that twice, and both times it's been failing.15:36
CrashedI wish I had a dvd-rw to test on15:38
BluesKajmaybe the ISO is buggy ...does K3B do a md5 sum check ?15:38
CrashedIt does15:38
CrashedI highly doubt the iso is buggy, though15:38
BluesKajyeah, I always keep a few dvd+rws around for testing purposes15:39
BluesKajcd+rws as well15:39
CrashedMan this is so annoying :(15:39
CrashedNew computer and I can't play some of the games I've been wanting to try.15:39
BluesKajbut they do wear out after about 20-30 passes15:39
BluesKajare you trying gutsy or hardy ?15:42
BluesKajCrashed, how new is your computer ?15:45
CrashedI got it yesterday, but it's an aged system.15:46
BluesKajok, what specs?15:46
Crashed3000+ s939, x800XL PCI-e, 40GB IDE HDD15:47
BluesKajRAM ?15:47
Crashed768 DDR15:47
CrashedAs you can see, I've had my PC for 21 hours now :P15:48
BluesKajhmm, feisty should run fine on it15:48
CrashedBluesKaj: I'm trying to install windows :(15:48
BluesKaj!hi | hernan15:49
ubotuhernan: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!15:49
CrashedKubuntu was the only OS I have that works.15:49
BluesKajwell, even windows shouldn't take 10hrs15:49
CrashedYeah, well it does when you have all these damn problems.15:49
CrashedI'll try burning the ISO again.15:50
BluesKajCrashed, windows ISO ?15:50
CrashedI can't get anything to work in WINE :(15:50
CrashedYes Blues.15:50
hernan /join #ubuntu-es15:51
CrashedI've got a product key, but no oem disc.15:51
tech9inertwosouls82: ahhhh... booting k these days aye me lad ;]]15:52
hernanalguien habla español?15:55
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.15:55
sayucyofhello (@_@)/15:56
Crashedmy windows computer freezes when trying to read the disc15:56
CrashedI guess I'm gonna have to borrow a usb flash drive from someone and then boot the os installer off that.15:56
BluesKajCrashed, do you see my PM ?16:00
tribaldataHi anyone could help me with a firefox issue16:06
tribaldataWhen i try to start firefox it doesn't start if i go from console and type in firefox i get this :16:07
tribaldataYou should really not run firefox through sudo WITHOUT the -H option.16:07
tribaldataAnyway, I'll do as if you did use the -H option.16:07
tribaldataXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server16:07
tribaldataXlib: No protocol specified16:07
tribaldataAnyone could lend me a hand ?16:07
tribaldataAnyone ?16:09
llutztribaldata: start firefox as user, not as root, not with sudo16:10
BluesKajtribaldata, can you launch FF from with in the FF file ..prolly on your /home/user file ..it will look like a text file with just firefox as the title16:10
tribaldatai try that but i just get another konsole line16:12
alinex\n pfcneves16:13
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tribaldatallutz: it seem like is not able to get the display 0:016:14
llutztribaldata: you start ff as user which owns the x-session?16:15
tribaldatallutz: i try that but i doesn't start16:16
BluesKajtribaldata, I still think you should try launching from within the FF folder , as described above16:17
tribaldatatry that already. no pid is created16:18
DexterFI just tried to suspend this machine, running feisty. remember it worked once, now didn't, it just booted as usual. how come?16:19
BluesKajhmm, sounds like it's not completely installed16:19
tribaldataBluesKaj: yep ?16:20
BluesKajtry reinstalling FF in adept16:20
tribaldataBluesKaj: already done that with apt-get remove firefox then apt-get clean then apt-get install firefox16:21
tribaldatasame result16:21
BluesKajdoes konq surf ok , tribaldata16:22
tribaldataBluesKaj: it is the weirdest thing, i switch my display from my svideo to my normal laptop then stuff began to go on the bad side for FF16:23
tribaldatai rebbooted re-installed and i'm still getting the same error16:23
tribaldatathe only info i get it's when i try to run it a root16:23
tribaldataBluesKaj: Does this mean that something is already trying to connect to my 0:0 ?? : Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server16:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about siteadvisor - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:26
ahmos!site advisor16:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about site advisor - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mcafee - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:27
Crashedguys, I can just replace an ide dvd-rw with a cd-rw right?16:29
Crashedsame cords and all16:29
SlimeyPetecrackhead_25: yes16:31
SlimeyPetebah, he's gone.16:31
crackhead_25SlimeyPete: what?16:31
SlimeyPetecrackhead_25: I meant to address Crashed16:32
BluesKajSlimeyPete, Crashed has a dvd burner that won't work in K3B , so he's swapping it out for a cd burner he has on hand so he can install an OS. I'm not sure weather it's windows or feisty,  but he wants to get back to his games.16:45
BluesKajerr whether16:45
SlimeyPeteah right16:45
BluesKajgamerz :P16:46
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RoboCopwhen will the next version of *buntu going to release ?16:50
SlimeyPeteRoboCop: the version number is 8.04, which means "4th month of 2008"16:50
SlimeyPeteso yeah, april16:51
ForgeAusthen 8.10 I presume16:51
SlimeyPetereleases are every six months16:51
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu16:51
SlimeyPeteForgeAus: yeah16:51
ForgeAus8.10 should be good for KDE4 by then it will be better, I hope...16:51
ForgeAusI don't expect much from KDE4 yet...16:51
BluesKajran hardy , not really much diff except for the oreganic looking almost chaos-theory looking desktop16:53
BluesKajthink I'll stck with Gutsy til Oct when 8.10 is released16:54
geniiBluesKaj: Thats about my plan as well. I'll run 8.04 for testing on a partition I don't care about16:55
BluesKajhmm genii, that's a thought ... a seperate partition for hardy might be a good idea16:56
SlimeyPeteVM's best, surely16:57
BluesKaj20G should be enuff16:57
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BluesKajVM's are buggy in my experience ...i find them more frustrating than just rebooting into another OS16:58
Daisuke_Idokde4's desktop irritates me.  i keep a lot on the desktop, and having each thing on my desktop be considered a 'widget' bugs me16:58
BluesKajwidgets ...never understood what they were supposed to do :)16:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about widgets - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:00
BluesKaj!info widgets17:01
ubotuPackage widgets does not exist in gutsy17:01
Daisuke_Idoeach icon gets a frame, same as things like the clock and such17:02
ubuntuhal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 999 anyone know what that means?17:02
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE17:04
geniiDaisuke_Ido: I totally agree with you on the desktop thing17:07
ahmosHi ,I need a little help plz?17:08
BluesKaj!ask | ahmos17:08
ubotuahmos: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)17:08
ahmosI have installed an IEEE card to capture a video from my camcorder by kino but i get this message (warning: raw1394 kernel module not loaded or failure to read/write /dev/raw1394! )17:10
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geniiahmos: sudo modprobe raw139417:14
geniiahmos: Try again to capture into kino17:16
CrashedHey guys, I'm having an issue with WINE and IE.17:16
ForgeAusargh my VMware Linux vmdk died17:17
CrashedHow do I install geck/ie for wine?17:17
ForgeAuswell its still there it just doesn't mount it for some strange reason17:17
ForgeAuswhat kinda issue Crashed?17:17
ForgeAusgeck/ie? um not sure you can17:17
CrashedMy windows application crashes because it tries to load an html page.17:17
ahmosnothing genii I think that it is a permission problem,no?17:17
ForgeAushow are you trying to install it?17:17
ForgeAusyou can use ies4linux17:17
ForgeAusthat should work17:17
CrashedWell, when I run my app, it asks if I want to install gecko. I click yes, but my application crashes sometime before or after I click yes. So it never installs.17:18
ForgeAusahh I know why HDA not SDA!17:18
geniiahmos: No, if no msg then thats good. When things execute properly no extra messages. Only when errors.17:18
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xakahow to disable loading "dri" module in Xorg? i have no seen it in xorg.conf, but it loading (i see it in Xorg.log)17:19
ahmosgenii: I had fixed it before but I forgot the command it was something like sudo chmod 666.....17:19
geniiahmos: If you can get your video into kino now, you know what the module you need is. To make it load every time, put the name raw1394 into the file /etc/modules (you need to edit with admin privelege for that)17:20
CrashedArrg, it asks me if I want to install gecko *after* the html page starts loading. :(17:20
ahmosno i can't get a video now!17:21
geniiahmos: If the dev exists but it just won't let you use it every time. Instead of always changing the permissions of the device file, add your username into the group of plugdev instead.17:21
CrashedHow do I install Gecko to use in place of IE in WINE?17:21
CrashedAhha. "wine iexplore http://www.winehq.org"17:23
ahmossorry genii but how to add my username into plugdev..!17:23
ahmosi'm some how new to linux17:23
CrashedDamnit. Stupid program still crashes >:("17:23
geniiahmos: sudo usermod -G -a plugdev <yourusername>17:23
ForgeAusthink I messed up grub17:23
ForgeAusjust putting win2k disk in17:24
ForgeAusit did boot off it but didn't install anything17:24
ahmosI got this  usermod: unknown group -a17:24
ForgeAusahh that fixled it17:25
geniiahmos: sudo usermod -G plugdev -a <yourusername>17:25
ForgeAusstill edgy tho17:25
ForgeAushmm gotta fix that too17:25
ahmosshould i restart my system now?!17:26
Daisuke_Idoahmos: this isn't windows.17:27
ForgeAushehe thats fun using a PC-BSD VMDK (Virtual Machine) from an EXT3 partition in WindowsXP :)17:27
CrashedCan't get this stupid app to work in WINE :(17:27
CrashedOther people do it no problem.17:27
Daisuke_Idowhat one?17:27
Daisuke_Idonever heard of it17:27
CrashedIt's not that big.17:27
ahmosgenii:sorry it didn't work :)17:28
ForgeAusCrashed use ies4linux to install it into wine17:28
CrashedForge: what is ies4linux?17:28
ForgeAusthats got a script that helps set everything you need up in order to run it17:28
ForgeAusgoogle it Crashed17:28
phoenixzHi there, I just installed kubuntu on an acer aspire 5720 laptop. It has an atheros AR5006EG wifi card built in.. The atheros restricted module is loaded, but the wifi light on the laptop doesnt burn and I cant see the wireless device in kubuntu either.. Could anybody help me to get this to work?17:29
ForgeAusI don't think you'll have the gecko issue doing it that way17:29
CrashedI have Gecko working as IE, Forge.17:29
CrashedSeems to be working properly.17:29
ForgeAusoh you fixed it? good17:29
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs17:29
CrashedWell, the app is still borked.17:29
CrashedThere's the dump/17:30
CrashedThe first few lines are warnings when the app runs, but everything functions properly. As soon as I login, then it spits out some errors and drops.17:31
geniiahmos: does /dev/raw1394 exist?17:31
Daisuke_Idocheck the winehq appdb page on it?17:31
ForgeAusthe app?17:32
ForgeAuswhich "the app" is that?17:32
ForgeAusie itself?17:32
ahmosyes i searched and found it17:32
CrashedThat's the output from BYOND, Forge.17:32
ForgeAusBYOND? never heard of it17:32
CrashedThat ies4linux isn't working :(17:33
CrashedSays I need cabextract first, and the cabextract site isn't working.17:33
ForgeAusmac's ies4OSX has ie7 support17:33
ForgeAusof course VMware Fusion does the same17:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cabextract - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:34
Daisuke_Ido!info cabextract17:34
ubotucabextract (source: cabextract): a program to extract Microsoft Cabinet files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-2 (gutsy), package size 52 kB, installed size 184 kB17:34
Daisuke_Idojust apt-get install it17:34
geniiahmos: Please paste here result of:   ls -l /dev/raw139417:34
Daisuke_Idoagain, this isn't windows, where you have to go to all sorts of seedy corners of the net to get software and support files17:35
rdwhello, how to play wmv's from within firefox?17:36
ahmosgenii:I've fixed it (ALT + F2 then kdesu Dolphin,anf i made the gave a permission for others to read & write ,and made it executable) :)17:36
Daisuke_Idothere's a vlc plugin in the repos (iirc)17:36
rdwdo you know it's name?17:36
geniiahmos: Every time you reboot it will revert back and you will need to change it again. I'm trying to offer you a permanent fix.17:36
Daisuke_Idovlc (you'll need that for starters)17:37
ahmosaha ,ok17:37
ahmoscrwxrwxrwx 1 root disk 171, 0 2008-02-11 19:06 /dev/raw139417:37
CrashedHoly crap17:38
CrashedI just noticed I'm running wine 0.9.2217:38
geniiahmos: sudo usermod -G disk -a <yourusername>17:40
geniiAlthough it's interesting a group by that name exists on your system17:40
toothpickI had backed up family photo albums onto a cd, but when I copy them into kubuntu they keep th read only file permission.17:40
toothpickI want to be able to rename, delete duplicates and such....how can I make the entire path of pics editable?17:41
geniitoothpick: sudo chmod -r <names>17:41
ahmosok finished17:41
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CrashedWhat do I do with the WINE deb file?17:42
SlimeyPete"sudo dpkg -i filename.deb" to install it17:42
toothpickgenii: I typed sudo chmod -r DCIM and then I couldn't even list the files in the folder DCIM17:42
geniitoothpick: sudo chmod +rw <name>        then17:43
SlimeyPete-r will remove read access17:43
vhozardanyone who can help me with xawtv?17:43
geniiSlimeyPete: Yes I forgot it wasn't  toggle17:43
ahmosgenii:can i restart now to see if it worked?!17:44
geniiahmos: Sure. I'll be around17:44
nosrednaekimhey Crashed17:44
ahmosok hang on17:44
Crashednos! :017:45
nosrednaekimCrashed: you still on 6.10?17:45
CrashedI am.17:45
CrashedYou have no clue what kind of troubles I've been through today/yesterday.17:45
CrashedSpent some 15 hours trying to install Windows.17:45
vhozardanyone who can help me with xawtv?17:45
CrashedI've got one super slow CD-RW drive, one broken CD-RW drive, and apparently a bugged CD-RW disc now.17:45
Crashedhey guys, how do I completely uninstall wine?17:46
vhozardsudo apt-get remove --purge wine17:46
vhozardi think Crashed17:46
geniiyes, thats right17:47
CrashedWINE is still in my application menu.17:47
CrashedAnd the program files are still there.17:47
BluesKajvhozard, can't help with xawtv but tvtime is more up to date I believe17:48
ahmosgenii: yes it is working ,you are my HERO :)17:48
CrashedHow do I completely remove WINE?17:48
toothpickthanks for the help, got it now.17:48
CrashedApp files, directories, I want it gone.17:48
vhozardBluesKaj, yes I know but you can't record with tvtime17:48
ForgeAusapt-get remove wine17:48
geniiahmos: Glad you got it. No more chmodding it etc etc. Have fun with Kino :)17:49
ForgeAusbut after that there'll be leftovers17:49
ForgeAusso delete your .wine directory thats still there17:49
ForgeAusand anything under it17:49
ForgeAus(should be in a user or root home directory)17:49
ahmosthank you hero ;)17:49
ForgeAusoh wait you need a sudo first17:49
ForgeAussudo apt-get remove wine17:49
CrashedMan, this thing is still in my applications folder.17:51
nosrednaekimCrashed: so you are stuck with linux :)17:51
Crashednosred: pretty much ;P17:52
CrashedI need someone to rescue me by downloading WinXP and burning it (properly) to a disc.17:52
CrashedLinux is a scary place.17:52
nosrednaekimCrashed: oh... I think they sell discs like that down at computer stores ;)17:53
nosrednaekimCrashed: ^_^17:53
CrashedKey word: se;;17:53
vhozardanyone who can help me with xawtv?17:53
Crashednosrednaekim: I think I got banned from the ubuntu repositories.17:53
vhozardhaha, thats not possible17:54
CrashedI kept trying to apt-get stuff, and it kept timing out for whatever reason.17:54
nosrednaekimCrashed: sometimes you pay for quality CD's lol17:54
Daisuke_Idoyou can't get banned from the repos, that's ridiculous17:54
Crashedand recently I tried it, and it said permission denied or something.17:54
nosrednaekimCrashed: well, did you try adding new repositories?17:54
vhozardput sudo in fronst of the code17:54
CrashedOh right, I keep forgetting that. :P17:54
Crashednosred: I'm not sure what I tried.17:55
CrashedI removed comments, added them, nothign solved anything.17:55
Crashed99% [Connecting to buildbot.no-ip.org (]17:55
CrashedI get stuck at that.17:55
nosrednaekimwell, thats certainly not a standard repository17:56
nosrednaekimCrashed: could you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list?17:56
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)17:56
rdwi have the line deb http://cz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy universe in my sources.list but i can't fetch mozilla-plugin-vlc17:57
CrashedI know what pastebin is ;)17:57
CrashedI've written a pastebin or two in my day (the actual service).17:57
CrashedHow do I run Kate again?17:57
vhozardsudo kate17:58
Crashedyeah tried that.17:58
CrashedXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server17:58
nosrednaekimCrashed: kdesu kate17:58
CrashedSame error.17:58
nosrednaekimvhozard: do not use sudo with kde apps17:58
vhozardwhy not?17:58
vhozardi always do17:58
vhozardnever had one problem17:58
nosrednaekimCrashed: yeah.. it should give you an error, but it should open anyway17:58
ubotuIn KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)17:59
CrashedIt doesn't open. :/17:59
nosrednaekimCrashed: well, just cat it from the terminal17:59
CrashedYeah, but I like CTRL+A. My mouse sucks. :)18:00
siofnosrednaekim, thanks for that sudo tip.18:00
vhozardsudo kate is fine, I think. about using kdesu its bullshit18:01
nosrednaekimvhozard: well, do what you like, but don't tell others to do it.18:01
vhozardok, but I didn't know18:02
ubotuIn KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)18:02
vhozardand besides that its not really THAT bad to use sudo kate18:02
jussi01vhozard: yes it is18:02
nosrednaekimCrashed: run "sudo apt-get update"18:02
nosrednaekimvhozard: did you read the link?18:02
Crashed99% [Connecting to buildbot.no-ip.org (]18:02
CrashedIt'll display that for a while, then timeout.18:03
nosrednaekimCrashed: when running apt-get update?18:03
vhozardYes, i read the link18:03
rdwi have the line deb http://cz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy universe in my sources.list but i can't fetch mozilla-plugin-vlc18:04
nosrednaekimCrashed: are you running through a proxy or something?18:04
CrashedNo I am not.18:04
CrashedNothing changed today. apt-get was working yesterday, but not it's borked.18:04
vhozardjussi01: its not very bad, I use kubuntu and linux and sudo ALOT and I never had a problem with that18:05
jussi01!wfm | vhozard18:05
ubotuvhozard: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/18:05
vhozardjussi01: damn you don't listen. I say it itsn't bad, BUT I recommend kdesu kate to anyone from now on!18:06
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nosrednaekimCrashed: hum ok,it looks like it got all the neccesary ones, don't worry about it...18:07
CrashedDon't worry about it? I wanna use apt-get :(18:07
stdinvhozard: if you tell someone to use "sudo GUI", then please make sure you are here to support them _when_ it breaks their system. if you don't wan't that responsibility then don't give people "sudo GUI" commands18:08
nosrednaekimCrashed: so running "apt-get somepackage" also give you that error?18:08
CrashedIt's not an error.18:08
navetzhow do i force remove somethign with apt-get18:08
CrashedIt's just not finding that host.18:08
Crashedsudo apt-get remove something18:09
navetzi need to force remove it18:09
nosrednaekimCrashed: does it stall before or after downloading all the neccesary packages?18:09
vhozardI DON'T, damn I didn't know. I DO know now and if I give advise I say kdesu GUI or sudo COMMANDLINE18:09
Crashedapt-get install seems to work fine.18:09
Crashedupdate does not work at all.18:09
nosrednaekimCrashed: well, it does work, cause before it stalls, it updates all the other package lists18:10
vhozardanyone who can help me with xawtv?18:10
nosrednaekimCrashed: anyway... what are trying to do now?18:11
CrashedSetting up WINE18:11
nosrednaekimCrashed: oh ^_^18:11
navetzi cant uninstall or install anything because i keep getting this error :18:12
navetzE: The package dtc-postfix-courier needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.18:12
navetzcan someone help me18:12
jussi01navetz: sudo apt-get install -f18:12
navetzjussi01: whats that do?18:12
jussi01navetz: the -f is for fix broken IIRC18:13
jussi01navetz: man apt-get for clarification18:13
navetzjussi01: i tried it but i get the same error18:14
CrashedIt says those dlls don't exist, when they do.18:16
ForgeAusis wine case-sensitive?18:16
ForgeAusie from the commandline for example can you run wine genuinecheck.exe or do you have to run wine GenuineCheck.exe ?18:17
nosrednaekimCrashed: please ask in #winehq, we are not wine experts here18:17
sparr_is it possible to get ksysguard to use sensible K/M/G labels for the charts instead of scientific notation?  it takes me an appreciable amount of time to figure out how much 1.22093e+07 is18:18
karthikpSpeaking of wine, the wine config applet in kubuntu gutsy system settings seems to be broken.18:19
karthikpIs there anyway to fix it?18:19
jussi01karthikp: it works here18:19
JohnFluxsparr: upgrade to kde4 :-)18:19
jussi01karthikp: what is the issue?18:19
karthikpI couldn't find anything useful online, so I forgot about it.18:19
karthikpI get an error message.18:20
karthikpLemme look it up.18:20
karthikpFirst, I get this window saying it appears you don't have all the drives set up.18:20
karthikpWhich is okay.18:20
karthikpThen, I get this message saying the module Windows Applications could not be loaded.18:21
karthikpThe diagnostics is:18:21
karthikpPossible reasons:18:21
karthikp* An error occured during your last KDE upgrade leaving an orphaned control module.18:21
karthikp* You have old third party modules lying around.18:22
* jussi01 reminds karthikp of pastebin...18:22
karthikpWhat's pastebin?18:22
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)18:22
karthikpOh nice. /me is still a noob.18:22
karthikpOkay, it doesn't allow me to select the text!18:23
karthikpNever mind. THe thing is, this error popped up when I clean installed gutsy back last year.18:23
karthikpSo, there was no last kde session and there were no modules "lying around"18:24
karthikpThe system was fresh and I figured it was broken.18:24
karthikpAnyone else have their wine config applet broken in system settings?18:24
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stdinCrashed: "root@crashed-pc:" <- there's your problem, don't run it as root18:31
Crashedhow did that happen...18:32
CrashedError from the DLL now.18:32
stdinthat's a Wine issue, best place to ask about it is in #winehq18:33
arcticpenguin380what filesystem is best for a lot of files18:35
jussi01!best | arcticpenguin38018:36
ubotuarcticpenguin380: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.18:36
CrashedOh man, I keep switching from #kubuntu and #winehq18:36
ForgeAusArcticpenguin you can only run Kubuntu on an EXT3 partition18:36
ForgeAusbut you can get it to read (most even write) other types of partitions18:36
arcticpenguin380forgeAus: not true im on kubuntu with jfs18:36
CrashedI just ran apt-get install flightgear - and It appared to install fine. How do I run it now?18:37
ForgeAusohhh kay... obviously I'm wrong then18:37
jussi01Crashed: fgfs iirc18:38
CrashedAh, thanks.18:38
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MrJoeyI know this isn't 100% Linux specific, but is it possible to limit the amount of RAM Windows uses (like one would do in Linux by appending the kernel argument mem=320M)18:45
MrJoeyAnd a similar question, is it possible to tell Linux to use gaps of memory18:45
MrJoeye.g. to use 0..320M, 400M...800M, 900...1015M ?18:45
jussi01MrJoey: ##windows ;)18:46
BluesKajMrJoey, Linux only uses as much as it needs and caches the rest AFAIK18:46
BluesKaj!hi | sui18:49
ubotusui: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!18:49
MrJoeyMrJoey, Linux only uses as much as it needs and caches the rest AFAIK ==> That's true, but I want to restrict the kernel from using the 320..390MB range and the 800...900MB range18:50
MrJoeyAs those ranges are bad RAM18:50
MrJoeyI know I can say mem=320, but that doesn't let me use the other good RAM after the 320=380 bad gap18:50
arcticpenguin380is 14GB a lot of kubuntu18:53
MrJoeyYes, unless you plan on installing an enormous amount of packages or holding many files (e.g. disk images)18:54
arcticpenguin380i have a lot of games installed and my usuall stuff and still have 8GB left18:54
MrJoeyI guess I'll just try the badram patch18:59
iboumy /media/cdrom0 can't be ejected because it can't be umounted. busy by dbus-launch and dbus-daemon18:59
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patrick_My adept database is locked, but I have nothing running to use it? PLease help19:00
jussi01!adeptfix | patrick_19:00
ubotupatrick_: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »19:00
patrick_thanks jussi0119:01
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patrick_alsa takes a while to make....19:11
BluesKajI have some leftover text that keeps coming up in greyed out text from previous konversation sessions when i was logging the chat. How do I get rid of that old text ?19:11
karthikpI like that feature...:)19:12
BluesKajwell, it's a month old now and getting boring19:13
patrick_checking for initscr in -lncurses... no19:14
patrick_checking for initscr in -lcurses... no19:14
patrick_configure: error: this packages requires a curses library19:14
patrick_What do I need to install? Adept comes up nothing when I search for curses19:14
navetzsomeone please help me19:17
BluesKajaha , found it ...don't 'x' backlog in chatwindow19:17
navetzi cant install anything19:17
navetzi need to remove a package19:17
navetzbut it says i need to reinstall the package before i can remove19:17
navetzwhen i try to reinstall it fails19:17
navetzi cant force remove eitehr19:18
stratman4300navetz: does it give you any error message???19:18
unagii changed something in my xorg.conf and ubuntu starts in low graphics mode, i switched it back and i still cant get out of low graphics mode, here is my xorg http://pastebin.org/19089, can anyone help me figure out what i need to do to get my graphics running again?19:18
navetzstratman4300: yea it says that the certain package needs to be removed19:18
stratman4300navetz: which package??19:19
navetzdtc-postfix-courier i think19:19
BluesKajnavetz, maybe broken pkgs or dependencies ..sometimes using the "fix broken pkgs" feature in synaptic /edit will help, if you have synaptic installed19:22
patrick_why aren't the latest alsa drivers there for download?19:22
navetzBluesKaj: i dont have it and i cant install it because of this bug19:22
liz_Hi all, I was wondering how does one get to view a learning cd on kubuntu? when I put the cd in I can view it's content but it doesn't play...19:22
stratman4300navetz: just for kicks try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a19:23
stratman4300it'll reconfigure any packages that still need configuring19:23
* MasterShrek already told him to do that19:23
stratman4300i had things get "stuck" because of that before19:23
unagii changed something in my xorg.conf and ubuntu starts in low graphics mode, i switched it back and i still cant get out of low graphics mode, here is my xorg http://pastebin.org/19089, can anyone help me figure out what i need to do to get my graphics running again?19:23
MasterShrekunagi, what gfx card?19:23
unagigeforce go 740019:24
navetzi am trying it right now19:24
MasterShrekunagi, try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-glx-new19:24
BluesKajnavetz, try : sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ,as well19:24
MasterShrekunagi, (assuming you installed your nvidia driver from the repos and not manually from nvidia's site)19:24
unagirepos yes, it was working before i added rubbish to the xorg.conf to show my mom that ubuntu can easily be fixed19:25
navetzi dont even know the answer to half the questions the prompt is asking me lol19:25
MasterShrekunagi, ironic eh?19:25
patrick_I tried manual earlier today and it broke xconfig and i couldnt figure out how to get to the command lin, all i had was a black screen19:25
unagii removed the rubbish with nano, and i cant get it to go back into normal graphics19:25
unagiive taken a backup xorg.conf and replaced it and it still wont go back19:25
MasterShrekunagi, try reconfiguring that package, it may help19:25
unagiPackage `nvidia-glx-new' is not installed and no info is available.19:26
MasterShrekunagi, is the current xorg.conf using the nvidia driver or nv or vesa?19:26
MasterShrekhmm, well sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new    then19:26
patrick_Did you try System Settings -> Monitor?19:26
BluesKajnavetz, just run with it ...the system isn't working so you need to some kind of action and these commands won't hurt anything19:26
navetzBluesKaj: yea thanks19:26
patrick_is alsa-utils needed for sound?19:28
BluesKajpatrick ,yes19:28
patrick_What should I do when it wont "make"?19:29
patrick_mv: cannot stat `t-ja.gmo': No such file or directory19:29
BluesKajis there a config file ?19:29
MasterShrekpatrick_, why are you compiling it from source?19:29
patrick_i ran the configure before the make19:29
MasterShrekits in the repositories19:29
MasterShrekat least i think it is...19:30
patrick_i need 1.0.15 or higher for sound19:30
BluesKajwhynot usw adept19:30
Daisuke_Idopatrick_: asus laptop?19:30
Daisuke_Idoacer* rather19:30
patrick_same sound card19:30
patrick_gateway though19:30
Daisuke_Idogood luck with that19:30
Daisuke_Idoi wonder if it's been backported19:30
patrick_it works fine with alsa 1.0.1519:30
patrick_and 1.0.16 is the newest, but its not making the utils19:31
patrick_sound works out of the box on 8.0419:31
patrick_ill try 1.015 and see if it works19:31
Daisuke_Idothere are debs for 1.0.1519:31
patrick_where do i get them?19:32
Daisuke_Idolooking now19:33
patrick_i can just make the 1.0.15, they worked a few weeks ago19:34
Daisuke_Idoit would appear i was wrong19:35
unagithat didnt work im still in low graphics19:35
MasterShrekunagi, and the xorg.conf is using nvidia as the driver, correct?19:36
MasterShrekpatrick_, have you done: sudo apt-get install build-essential ?19:36
BluesKajpatrick_, the kernel package header must be installed19:36
kornieffCan anyone help me with init.d scripts here, or is there another room for that kind of talk? Thank you.19:36
patrick_BluesKaj: How do I do that?19:37
yassine_my brother19:37
Daisuke_Idothere is a space between r and " right?19:37
Daisuke_Idoor a tab, or something...19:37
unagii dont know what to do anymore19:38
MasterShrekunagi, try this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg19:39
MasterShrekunagi, and make sure you choose the nvidia driver19:39
BluesKajpatrick_, it's in adept19:39
unagiit didnt give me an option to check19:40
unagioption to select nvidia19:41
unagikubuntu still says 'vesa'19:41
patrick_BluesKaj: It lists them as installed19:43
navetzdpkg-reconfigure -a didn't fix my problem :(19:45
sub[t]rnlGreetings bug, Welcome to #Kubuntu19:45
stratman4300navetz: have you done a apt-get update lately??19:45
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »19:45
BluesKajnavetz, sudo dpkg --configure -a19:45
patrick_Blue - how do I tell which version of the kernal I am running?19:46
sub[t]rnluname -r19:47
unagiwhat happens if i delete xorg.conf?19:47
BluesKajpatrick_, try this : ./alsa-info.sh19:47
sub[t]rnlunagi➜ your x windows won't load due to a no screen found error.19:48
unagii guess i have to reformat my hard drive19:48
patrick_BluesKaj: In what directory? It is not in the utils, which is the only thing not installing19:48
navetz!sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock19:48
BluesKajpatrick_, for kernel version : uname -a19:48
navetz!package dtc-postfix-courier19:49
patrick_Yeah, I have the correct kernal headers, and I am still getting: mv: cannot stat `t-ja.gmo': No such file or directory19:49
navetzhow do i find info on a package?19:49
unagi!info package19:49
ubotuPackage package does not exist in gutsy19:49
unagican someone help me figure out my graphics problem?19:49
navetz!info dtc-postfix-courier19:49
ubotudtc-postfix-courier (source: dtc): web control panel for admin and accounting hosting services (more depends). In component universe, is extra. Version 0.25.3-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 37 kB, installed size 128 kB19:50
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BluesKajpatrick_, di you try: ./alsa-info.sh , in the konsole19:51
patrick_BluesKaj: bash: ./alsa-info.sh: No such file or directory19:51
BluesKajpatrick_, lspci | grep audio19:53
patrick_nothing is displayed19:53
unagii dont understand why this is so difficult......19:54
unagiwhy am i in low graphics mode19:54
mojosoundIs there a way to setup the tightvnc server such that kde is running when I connect remotely - right now all I get is a generic x window with konsole running19:55
patrick_unagi: did you change the resolution in system setting -> monitor and display?19:55
unagii changed my xorg.conf19:55
BluesKajpatrick_, have you setup the sound system in system settings ?19:55
patrick_BluesKaj: My card is not supported in alsa 1.0.1419:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about graphics - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:56
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto19:56
patrick_got the alsa-utils installed -- i needed two packages that I found on the internet19:57
stratman4300unagi: what type of graphics card do you have???19:57
unaginvidia geforce go 740019:57
stratman4300unagi: did you use the restricted drivers manager??19:58
unagii dont remember19:58
stratman4300unagi: or did you make changes manually?19:58
unagii  made changes manually19:58
unagiand put them back19:58
unagistratman4300: i made changes manually and put them back19:59
stratman4300unagi: open the KDE system settings menu, and go to advanced19:59
stratman4300unagi: then start the restricted drivers manager19:59
unagiit says in use for the video20:00
patrick_SOUND!!! :D20:00
stratman4300what is your current resolution??20:00
unagi800 x 60020:00
stratman4300can't go any higher??20:00
stratman4300what driver is in use when you look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf??20:00
stratman4300in the devices section20:00
unagisupposedly nvidia20:00
unagibut kubuntu says vesa20:01
stratman4300where is kubuntu saying vesa??20:01
unagisettings > monitor > hardware20:01
patrick_wow openoffice support word 0720:01
stratman4300have you restarted X since setting up your nvidia hardware??20:02
unagistratman4300: i dont know what yo umean by setting up my hardware20:02
stratman4300after you made your changes20:02
unagimany times20:02
unagistratman4300: my video card was running fine, i added gibberish to my xorg to show my mom that in linux when something goes wrong you can fix it20:02
unagistratman4300: unfortunately i cant seem to get it back up20:02
wilbur_anyone running kubuntu on acer 3000 series laptops ?20:03
stratman4300you took out what you added??20:03
stratman4300okay do this....  open the resricted drivers manager....  uncheck nvidia....  hit apply...or..  okay20:03
stratman4300restart your x session....20:04
stratman4300the go back into the restricted drivers manager, and check the check box and restart your X-session...  this should re-install the drivers20:04
stratman4300or at least update your config files20:04
filo1234hi guys i have a problem with amarok20:05
filo1234when i switch off amarok, my hd external usb get down20:05
unagididnt work20:09
unagii dont understand20:10
unagidoes anyone know anything about xorg?20:11
stratman4300you need to be patient20:11
filo1234so amarok work but i have my mp3 on external hd  and when i close amarok, external usb hd, get umount20:12
stratman4300one sec let me look up a bit on nvidia drivers real quick20:12
unagii am patient........this has been going on for 2 hours20:12
stratman4300unagi: run a sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-glx nvidia-settings20:14
stratman4300unagi: then a sudo modprobe -r nvidia20:14
stratman4300then open the restricted drivers manager and see if the check box is checked or not20:14
Arwenwhoo, transparent window decorations are shiny20:15
unagiFATAL: Module nvidia not found.20:16
stratman4300after the modprobe??20:16
unagithats the output of modprobe20:17
unagiand there is no entry in restricted drivers20:17
stratman4300no entry at all??20:17
unaginot for nvidia20:18
stratman4300okay....   try rebooting your PC now....  then check the restricted drivers manager....  it should pick up your nvidia card and ask if you want to install software20:18
unagiand it says i need to isntall a package for it to work20:18
unagiok brb20:18
liz_ok this has happened to me twice already. While installing from adept manager the installation freezes. Right now it's frozen at 20% while installing java.20:22
liz_should I close and reinstall?20:23
stratman4300liz: does it show anything when you hit show details??20:23
liz_stratman: yes it shows a half loaded blue screen20:24
karthikpDoesn't java pop up a EULA or something like it?20:24
stratman4300yeah it does.....  sounds like your not getting the whole screen though20:24
stratman4300is adept maximized??20:24
stratman4300liz: is your window maximized??20:25
liz_stratman: the screen is not maximized, but even when I do it's just stuck20:25
karthikpHow about trying to apt-get from a terminal instead? That would launch that 8-bit looking screen and let you get past the eula.20:25
stratman4300yeah you could install just java via terminal then install the rest with adept20:26
sergiu21how can i access the partition, i got this message hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 100020:27
liz_haven't done terminal yet... what would I write after apt-get.... java? or sun-java5-plugin?20:27
wilbur__I need some help setting up my sis video card and sis soundcard, anyone willing to help me out ?20:28
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patrick_apt-get install sun-java5-plugin20:29
liz_ok I'll try that then, Thx stratman4300 and karthikp20:29
liz_thx patrick, hope it works20:30
stratman4300then you can do the rest like usual with adept20:30
stratman4300oh make sure you use sudo....    like this...   sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin20:30
patrick_Konversation is the best IRC client ive ever used :)20:30
stratman4300yeah it's nice :)20:31
patrick_mirc looks cluttered and xchat i just dont like20:31
patrick_pidgins implementation is annoying20:31
karthikpIt's the only one I've used :)20:31
karthikpAnd I like it, anyway. :)20:32
ArwenKonversation won't let you auto-rejoin on kicks...20:32
trappistArwen: awesome20:33
trappistI hate irc clients that automate obnoxious behavior20:34
liz_wow ok, now I got: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarilly unavailable) is another process using it?20:34
trappistlike spewing away messages to every channel you're on20:34
stratman4300liz: do you have adept open still??20:34
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »20:34
Arwenthere's never an excuse for not having an option20:34
Arwenespecially one people might use20:35
liz_stratman4300: adept is not open20:35
patrick_liz - do the above comman the ubot said20:35
trappistArwen: if the option automates bad netiquette, that's a pretty good excuse.  if I wrote an irc client it wouldn't have that option.20:35
stratman4300okay make sure you use sudo...  type like this.     sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin20:35
stratman4300try that20:35
Arwentrappist, then people would just use a different one. That's not an excuse.20:36
trappistArwen: so, all applications should implement every feature that's technically possible that people might want to use, no matter if it's obnoxious, destructive, etc.?20:37
trappistgotta disagree.20:37
Arwentrappist, you can implement whatever feature you want, but not implementing X feature won't stop people from using it.20:38
Arwenso doing so as a matter of making a point is kind of silly20:38
Arwenspecially if there's a reason to use it20:38
liz_I did what ubotu typed and it's asking if I should kill process 6585.... I'm guessing I say yes20:38
patrick_Yes liz20:38
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patrick_then you can do whatever you were trying to do when it wold you the database was lcoked20:39
trappistif I wrote an ftp client, it wouldn't have a button that said 'upload random data until the server's disk fills up', even if it was specifically requested, and it wouldn't be to make a point20:39
liz_thx patrick :)20:40
sourcemakerare there release notes for the new kdebase update for gusty?20:41
Arwentrappist, but there's no legitimate reason one would want that.20:42
Arwenso that's not a valid argument20:42
liz_cool, all went well, i think it's done, thx all! Be seeing u in the near future20:45
fivetwentysixWhen I play Warcraft III on Wine sometimes it'll lag one a specific person hosts. And i will be the only 1 lagging, however my connection itself is not lagging.20:50
fivetwentysixAnyone know what can cause this problem?20:51
fivetwentysixIts like every 2 minutes it'll just suddenly lag.20:51
unagii dont understand why this is so friggen difficult20:51
bobitohey, I've been unable to setup wireless internet on my kubuntu gusty laptop.  The furthest I've gotten is to get to the network connections, where it sees a disable wireless network device, but will not enable it20:52
stratman4300unagi: did you try doing what i said??20:52
Arwenfivetwentysix, stop using WINE :-P20:52
bobitocould someone at least point me in the direction of a good howto?20:52
unagiand its still in low graphics20:52
fivetwentysixArwen: what do you suggest?20:52
fivetwentysixArwen: Wine runs Warcraft III perfectly20:52
stratman4300when you rebooted did you reinstall the drivers using the resricted drivers manager??20:52
Arwenfivetwentysix, oh, it does? then go on..20:52
sub[t]rnl!wireless | bobito20:52
ubotubobito: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs20:52
ArwenI was going to suggest *running Windows apps on Windows*20:53
unagiwhen i rebooted it was checked and it says in use20:53
fivetwentysixArwen: But it runs better on Wine than it does on Windows.20:53
unagimy lord.........do i really have to reinstall?20:53
stratman4300just out of curiostiy.....   try doing sudo modprobe nvidia20:53
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sourcemakerhow can I connect a windows vpn server via pptp?20:53
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unagii get no output with modprobe20:53
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stratman4300which means it was succesful20:54
fivetwentysixArwen: It's just this connection problem to certain people I don't know what can cause it.20:54
unagiwhat was successful20:54
unagiim still in low graphics mode20:54
stratman4300now go into /etc/X11/xorg.conf and make sure it's set to use nvidia20:54
unagikubuntu still says its using the vesa driver20:54
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wilbur__Anyone had any sucsess with this card : VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter20:54
unagiit always said nvidia in the xorg20:54
stratman4300from the command line do this...    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg20:54
Arwenhehe, a SiS chip? poor guy.20:55
stratman4300go through the prompts...  make sure you select nvidia in the modules section20:55
unagii dont know all of the answers in this prompt20:55
stratman4300you'll just accept most of the defaults20:55
unaginvidia isnt in the list20:55
stratman4300it's not in the list???   hmmm  interesting20:56
unagiand i dont have any nv* modules installed20:56
stratman4300okay....  hold ctrl, then press c20:56
fivetwentysixIf you have an SiS card: Buy a new one.20:56
stratman4300then run sudo apt-get install module-assistant20:56
shr00mz_Anyone want to offer me some help with adept?20:56
stratman4300we'll do this the debian way...   am i allowed to say that on this irc???   =P20:56
shr00mz_it keeps crashing when I launch it.20:57
arcticpenguin380is it possilbe to use tracker in kubuntu20:57
shr00mz_gives a msg about another instance running20:57
stratman4300unagi: when that is done run module-assistant prepare20:57
stratman4300unagi: when that is done run sudo module-assistant prepare20:57
shr00mz_then give the crash report20:58
stratman4300you did the preapre already??20:58
unagiuild-essential is already the newest version.20:58
stratman4300then do sudo module-assistant auto-install nvidia20:58
unagisaid it failed20:59
unagicontrib and non-free archives suggested20:59
stratman4300okay one sec20:59
stratman4300make sure you have the universe and multiverse repositories enabled21:01
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unagitheyre enabled21:02
stratman4300try sudo m-a prepare21:02
stratman4300one more time21:02
stratman4300then check /usr/src make sure your kernel source is there21:03
stratman4300errors in m-a prepare??21:04
stratman4300what does it say??21:04
unagi/msg stratman430021:05
unagiunagi@unagi-laptop:/usr/src$ sudo m-a prepare21:05
unagiGetting source for kernel version: 2.6.22-14-generic21:05
unagiKernel headers available in /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic21:05
unagiCreating symlink...21:05
unagiapt-get install build-essential21:05
unagiReading package lists... Done21:05
unagiBuilding dependency tree21:05
Daisuke_Ido!paste | unagi21:05
ubotuunagi: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)21:05
unagiReading state information... Done21:05
Daisuke_Idothat would have been extensive -_-21:06
jpatrickDaisuke_Ido: good thing I muted no? ;-)21:06
Daisuke_Idovery :)21:06
jpatrickDaisuke_Ido: paste still in proces21:06
jpatrickunagi: please use the pastebin next time21:07
blizzzekgn8 zammen21:07
buzi'm trying to play 720p video21:07
buzmy cpu can easily decode it (cpu usage shows less than 70%) but in fast movement i get lines as if the graphics subsystem is not able to keep up21:07
jpatrick!aptfix | unagi21:09
ubotuunagi: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »21:09
unagistratman4300: http://pastebin.org/1910921:09
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto21:11
jpatrick!msgthebot > unagi21:12
stratman4300unagi: try sudo apt-get autoremove21:12
stratman4300then do sudo apt-get install -f21:13
unagiE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)21:13
stratman4300try the sudo apt-get install -f21:13
karthikpAnyone else see 'tearing' of the image while watching video, especially if the camera pans too quickly?21:13
Arwenkarthikp, me. But that's because I'm using OpenGL on an ATI card.21:14
unagisame error21:14
karthikpnvidia, but I still see it.21:14
unagisame error stratman430021:14
Arwenkarthikp, try setting your video output method to "XVideo"21:15
Arwenor more commonly "xv"21:15
stratman4300do sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server21:15
karthikpHow do I do that?21:15
unagibtw restricted says the driver isnt in use21:15
nosrednaekimhey everyone...21:16
stratman4300really???....  okay go check the check box21:16
stratman4300see if it pulls the files21:16
unagiit is checked21:16
stratman4300hit apply21:16
unagiit was already checked21:16
ep103Hey guys, I removed network-manager and network-manager-kde while trying to configure wireless internet, and thereby lost all connection to the internet on my linux machine. Is it possible to reinstall these programs from the kubuntu 7.10 install CD?21:16
nosrednaekimep103: I don't think so... but do you have a wired connection?21:16
stratman4300okay try that sudo dkpg-reconfigure mysql-server21:17
ep103Yes, but it hasn't been working since I uninstalled network manager21:17
unagidebconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable21:17
stratman4300do you have any other open terminals??21:18
nosrednaekimep103: then run, from the command line "sudo dhclient eth0"21:18
buzi have xvideo and still see tearing on a intel gma x310021:19
ep103nosrednaekin: that was awesome, ty21:19
stratman4300okay i'm a bit weak on the inner working of the debian packaging system... anyone else in the room want to step in for unagi??21:19
unagiim going to have to reformat my hard drive i can tell21:20
stratman4300no we can fix it21:20
stratman4300just have to be patient21:20
nosrednaekimep103: grab knetworkmanager again ;)21:20
unagii dont understand why its so hard..........i added asdf to xorg.conf, restarted x, then took out asdf from xorg.conf and restarted x.........why doenst that work21:20
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nosrednaekimunagi: whats the problem?21:21
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stratman4300well whatever you did....  your system didn't like it21:21
unagibut i undid it stratman4300 why isnt that enough21:21
stdinunagi: "sudo fuser -vik /var/cache/debconf/config.dat ; sudo dpkg --configure -a" should clear the lock21:21
unaginosrednaekim: i added bad info into xorg then removed it and now my graphics wont run21:21
CrashedWhat would the difficulty scale of installing MythTV be? (1 to 10, 10 hardest).21:21
unagicrashed 1121:22
nosrednaekimunagi: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to generate a new conf file21:22
karthikpCrashed: 'Suspect it'll depend on your level of enthusiasm for it.21:22
CrashedOkay, so multiply that by 10 since I'm a newbie and you get 110/10 difficulty.21:22
unagishould i delete the one i have now?21:22
CrashedI wish I had windows :(21:23
nosrednaekimCrashed: installing? simple.... getting it working the way you want? 621:23
nosrednaekimunagi: no, it'll do that for you21:23
arcticpenguin380whats a good metadata indexer21:23
unaginosrednaekim: nvidia isnt in that list21:23
nosrednaekimCrashed: are you sure your video captre card is suported?21:23
nosrednaekimunagi: choose nv then...21:23
Crashednosrednaekim: I've been looking for a hardware support list.21:23
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs21:24
CrashedHaven't checked the wiki yet.21:24
nosrednaekimCrashed: just give me the output of lspci....21:24
unagibut nv is a non accelerated driver right nosr?21:24
unagibut nv is a non accelerated driver right nosrednaekim?21:24
nosrednaekimunagi: yeah, but at least it will get it working for a bit21:24
CrashedThat command is neat :21:25
Crashedinterestingly enough, I don't see any info on a tv tuner here.21:25
nosrednaekimpastebin it and I'll see...21:26
buzlet's see if this is an ubuntu issue21:26
buz(i'm on opensuse now)21:26
buzsince x crashed the machine...21:26
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unagiran it21:27
unagistill running on vesa drivers21:27
oloughlin75Crashed: Stil having problems?21:27
nosrednaekimCrashed: last line is the tuner...21:27
CrashedOops :)21:27
oloughlin75I didnt even know philips made pc tv tuners21:28
Crashedoloughlin75: with what specifically?21:28
unagianyone have any ideas?21:28
oloughlin75Just in general :)21:28
CrashedI've still got many problems, some were fixed. Most weren't. :p21:28
shazowhiya, after a fresh install and enabling restricted nvidia drivers, my xorg wont start, with the following output: http://pastebin.com/m2a350b2e (no visible errors), using the default xorg.conf generated by nvidia-xconfig... lsmod shows nvidia module is loaded fine (using nvidia-glx-new). Any idea what I'm missing?21:28
stratman4300unagi: did you do ANYTHING else other than add jibberish to xorg.conf....    it shouldn't be behaving that way period21:28
unagii did nothing21:28
unagii even replaced it with a secondary that i have21:28
Crashednosrednaekim: compatible?21:28
stratman4300have you had any issues with apt recently??21:28
nosrednaekimCrashed: checkin21:29
buzshazow: can you paste your entire xorg log21:29
unagistratman4300: http://pastebin.org/1908921:29
nosrednaekimshazow: could i have th contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log?21:29
shazowbuz: that is my entire log, but i think i have an idea what's happening.. it's using the wrong vga port21:29
buznever seen anything like that21:30
shazowi know how to fix that, thanks!21:30
stratman4300if we can get apt working... we can get the nvidia module recompiled and installed from scratch21:30
shazow(I have a VGA and DVI port in my videocard, it's showing the screen on my VGA which the monitor isn't on)21:30
olimpicoDoes anyone here knows how to configure knetworkmanager in PCLOS???21:30
buzstill shouldnt really crash21:30
shazowit doesn't crash, it just hangs21:30
mefisto__looking for a gui program to create a dvd menu (dvd mpegs already encoded). I've given up on Qdvdauthor. Any others?21:30
buzolimpico: this is the kubuntu channel so i doubt it21:30
shazowie. it's running, i just dont see it21:31
nosrednaekimCrashed: seems its supported quite well21:31
stratman4300unagi: what happens when you do sudo apt-get install -f again??21:31
Crashednosrednaekim: out of curiosity, does this card support hardware mpeg1/2/3/4/whatever encoding?21:31
CrashedIt was given to me for free, I really know nothing about it.21:31
olimpicobuz: I use Kubuntu, actually I'm running it now, but a freind of mine uses PCLOS, but I installed knetworkmanager and it's not able to establish a connection. In the PCLOS channel, nobody has any idea.21:32
buzwhat does pclos use by default21:32
unagiit goes through successfully21:32
olimpicobuz: I know the people here are better21:32
nosrednaekimCrashed: I don't know... but here is a decnt thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43732521:32
jussi01olimpico: tell him to install kubuntu :P21:32
unaginow what stratman430021:33
stratman4300unagi: ahhh  okay do a sudo m-a prepare now21:33
olimpicobuz: Netapplet21:33
oloughlin75I thought PCLOS used KNetworkManager21:33
CrashedIs mythtv the simplest tv tuner software for linux?21:33
stratman4300unagi: now run m-a auto-install nvidia21:33
CrashedI really just want to stream TV on my PC, and *maybe* record it :P21:33
nosrednaekimCrashed: nah...kdetv is probably easier21:34
oloughlin75Crashed: Windows will do that :)21:34
olimpicojussi01: He tried, but his weird Wireless card was not recognized by Kubuntu, and PCLOS did recognised it. And it works with the normal config from PCLOS, but it's not very confortable.21:34
CrashedI need windows :(21:34
stratman4300unagi: when that's done run sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx21:34
nosrednaekimolimpico: you may want to erase all of the intrfaces out of /etc/network/interfaces21:34
CrashedIs kdetv any decent, though?21:34
nosrednaekimCrashed: never used it.21:35
jpatrick!windows | Crashed21:35
ubotuCrashed: For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents21:35
* MartinCleaver reads FSQ21:35
CrashedE: Couldn't find package mythtv21:35
olimpiconosrednaekim: There is no /etc/network/interfaces on PCLOS21:35
CrashedWhy did I hope it was gonna be that easy?21:36
stratman4300what kind of backwards distro is that????  LOL21:36
unagiok now what stratman430021:36
oloughlin75PCLOS works by default for most things... but its terrible ugly and without a lot of support21:37
stratman4300unagi: run sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx21:37
unagii did21:37
nosrednaekimolimpico: heh21:37
ubotuMythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV21:37
stratman4300unagi: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg21:37
stratman4300unagi: nvidia will be in the list now21:37
nosrednaekimCrashed: you can search for packages with "apt-cache search myth"21:37
stratman4300it should anyway21:37
stratman4300unagi: then reboot X and your home free21:38
buzPCLOS is a mandriva derivative, what do you expect :P21:38
mefisto__Crashed: kdetv is very easy to install and try. It might be all you need21:38
CrashedThe only results are some thesaurus program :P21:38
stratman4300lol....   true21:38
CrashedInstalling kdetv.21:38
unagihow do i know my cards bus identifier21:38
oloughlin75Where is the setting to make it so the current window doesnt move to the next desktop?21:38
stratman4300unagi: just leave it blank21:39
Arwenoloughlin75, doesn't move? isn't that default?21:39
CrashedThe only way I can test if this works is if I pop the cable off of my modem and stick it into the tuner card.21:39
CrashedSo, I'll probably be back in 5 minutes when this doesn't work. ;-)21:39
nosrednaekim!search myth21:39
stratman4300unagi: is nvidia in the list??21:39
ubotuFound: tv, mythtv-mysql, mythbuntu, mythtv21:39
unagiok now what21:39
unagiyes and its done21:39
stratman4300restart x21:40
oloughlin75Arwen: When I use my shortcut for the next desktop, the window moves also21:40
stratman4300you should be golden21:40
nosrednaekim!info mythtv21:40
ubotumythtv (source: mythtv): A personal video recorder application (client and server). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.20.2-0ubuntu10.1 (gutsy), package size 24 kB, installed size 96 kB21:40
nosrednaekimoloughlin75: meta package I assume21:41
unagistill in low graphics mode21:41
unagistill says vesa21:41
oloughlin75O i see, i changed th ewrong shortcut21:41
nosrednaekimunagi: what driver does your xorg.conf say to use?21:41
stratman4300.......   man that's whack....  we recompiled the module from scratch21:41
unagiwhat other places specify what driver to use21:43
Crashed1Unsuprisingly it didn't work.21:44
Crashed1'Video display not possible with the current plugin configuration. Try playing with the configuration options of the V4L2 plugin.'21:44
nosrednaekimCrashed1: oh.. now what should be fun... ^_^21:45
unagistratman4300: nosrednaekim what else can i do21:45
unagidoes it require restart?21:45
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CrashedI don't consider that fun nosred :P21:45
nosrednaekimunagi: sould you ming pastebining your /var/log/xorg.0.log?21:45
nosrednaekimCrashed: sarcasm my freind21:45
CrashedI need windows to wipe my ass for me. Linux is tough.21:46
oloughlin75Lol crashed21:46
nosrednaekimCrashed: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Saa7134_quick_guide21:46
oloughlin75It hard to jump into linux, but it isnt that complicated :/21:47
nosrednaekimCrashed: there is a bit of a "unsimplified" guide21:47
nosrednaekimCrashed: I think you are trying to do too much at once, take it easy and see what it can do..21:47
CrashedTrying to do too much? I plugin cable and I want it to show TV. Is that really too much? :P21:47
nosrednaekimCrashed: it can be21:48
CrashedI don't have a clue what to do now.21:49
tzdmy flash player (adobe) refuse to start when i want to watch youtube etc. in firefox 2.x. Anyone recognize this and hopefully have a solution to this issue please?21:49
nosrednaekimunagi: tanks21:50
nosrednaekimCrashed: do nothing for a bit, grab a nice open source game and play around :)21:50
CrashedHeh, how will that sort my lack of TV?21:50
oloughlin75I like my desktop icon-less but it looks too... empty :/21:51
nosrednaekimCrashed: it'll make you forget your lack of TV....21:51
sergiu21hello, i have in tray kubuntu icon, i can't open it , none of any icons in tray responds21:51
unagiCrashed: tv in linux is not easy to do21:51
nacho__please irc spanhis?21:51
CrashedGuess not.21:52
unagiCrashed: i gave up..........i just use vista21:52
unaginosrednaekim: did you look at it?21:52
oloughlin75nacho ¿Cual es la problema?21:52
nosrednaekimunagi: could I have your /etc/X11/xorg.conf too?21:52
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.21:52
nacho__no hay una charla en español?21:52
sergiu21of, kubuntu crashed21:52
sergiu21i mean ktorrent21:53
CrashedEr, what? :/21:53
oloughlin75Does compiz work on kde?21:53
sergiu21i think that kubntu 7.04 was more stable21:53
sergiu21is more stable..21:53
unagioloughlin75: yes21:53
nosrednaekimoloughlin75: certainly21:53
oloughlin75good :)21:54
jussi01!compiz | oloughlin7521:54
ubotuoloughlin75: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion21:54
ForgeAuscompiz and kde4?.. hmm theres no need for it right?21:55
mefisto__sergiu21: is ktorrent really running? (ctrl-esc and search the list)21:55
SlimeyPeteForgeAus: different plugins I guess, maybe people have favourites21:55
oloughlin75I install 7.11 ForgeAus. KDE4 broke too much of the KDE3 stuff21:55
nosrednaekimForgeAus: half the improvents in the past month to compiz were things to help it work with kde421:55
newGuyin kde, how do I add a program to run at startup?21:56
ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.21:56
unaginosrednaekim: any ideas?21:56
nosrednaekimunagi: unfortunately....no.... thats very odd..21:56
sub[t]rnlwhats unagi trying to do?21:56
unagiim trying to get out of low graphics mode21:56
nosrednaekimunagi: fix X21:56
unagiall i did was add a bad string to xorg, restarted x, took it out, restarted x21:57
ForgeAuswhy's it in low graphicx mode?21:57
unagiwhy doesnt x run right21:57
ForgeAuswhat card is it?21:57
unagigeforce go 740021:57
sub[t]rnlso, your trying to get it to run the nvidia driver?21:57
ForgeAusnvidia has drivers21:57
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto21:57
sub[t]rnlusing 7.10?21:57
sub[t]rnlenable it in restricted devices manager, and run sudo nvidia-xconfig21:58
ForgeAusthats one reason I like AndLinux the X server already works with my ATI drivers because windows has them :)21:58
mefisto__Crashed: did you get kdetv to work?21:58
unagiits checked but says 'not in use'21:58
sub[t]rnlyeah, check it then run the command I told you21:58
Crashedmefisto: it's only been 5 minutes. Do you really think a newbie like me could get it to work in 5 minutes? :P21:58
sub[t]rnlso it is put to use21:58
unaginow what21:58
CrashedI've installed KDETV, MythTV, and soon enough TV Time.21:58
CrashedI've got half-assed instructions on each of them.21:59
unagitv time runs my webcam21:59
CrashedThis isn't a channel that'll ban me 10 hours later for swearing, like #linux, right?21:59
nosrednaekimunagi: question.... are you using gdm? the gnome login manager?21:59
nosrednaekimCrashed: it is...21:59
CrashedOh shoot.21:59
ForgeAusCrashed don't use bad language21:59
unagii guess21:59
ForgeAusand you won't get banned21:59
nosrednaekimCrashed: but we give you some fair warnings first21:59
unagii started with ubuntu then installed kubuntu over it21:59
unagithe login didnt change21:59
sub[t]rnlunagi➜ enable it in restricted devices manager, and run sudo nvidia-xconfig.22:00
ForgeAuswell unless your behavioru is otherwise offensive I guess22:00
unagii did sub[t]rnl now what22:00
nosrednaekimunagi: yeah... I hate gdm and all that crap, run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm" and select kdm.22:00
ForgeAussubtrnal did I tell you I got into that ext3 drive? (was it you I was talking to about it?)22:00
CrashedI'm running that tutorial, but it's for a different card.22:00
unaginow what sub[t]rnl22:00
ForgeAusstill didn't fix my AndLinux tho, its still hanging before the login prompt22:01
sub[t]rnlunagi➜ logout, then ctrl + e22:01
jussi01Crashed: its all about attitude ;)22:01
sub[t]rnlunagi➜ alt + e22:01
newGuyso if I put a file named synergystart into ~/.kde/Autostart and make it executable, it will run every time I start kde?22:01
sub[t]rnlForgeAus➜ hrm, can't remeber22:01
Crashedjussi01: I'll try to PG13 my language. :]22:01
newGuythe file is just:22:01
newGuy#! /usr/bin/bash22:01
newGuysynergys --config /synergy.conf22:01
nosrednaekimnewGuy: correct22:01
sub[t]rnlnewGuy➜ yup22:01
jussi01Crashed: :)22:01
nareshovHi, is there a poster/flyer on KDE available online?22:01
unagictrl + e or alt + e22:02
sub[t]rnlalt + e22:02
nekostaris there a kde4 mastered alpha4 of hardy?22:02
unagiwhat does alt + e do22:02
sub[t]rnlsudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart22:02
jussi01nekostar: kde 4 support in #kubuntu-kde4 and hardy support in #ubuntu+122:02
ForgeAusI think theres a KDE4 of suse but dunno about Hardy22:02
nosrednaekimnekostar: I don't think so22:03
nekostarjussi01 i'm in ubuntu+1 :P22:03
nekostarno one answered there i'll try the other one22:03
CrashedHm. How do I check stats on my harddrive, like space?22:03
sub[t]rnldf -h22:03
Crasheddf, that was it.22:03
nekostarnosrednaekim darn - there's one for 7.10...22:03
Crashedthanks sub.22:03
nosrednaekimCrashed: df22:03
CrashedHey, so I've only used 4.1GB out of 40? Woot :]22:03
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mefisto__Crashed: konqueror has some graphical disk size view mode too22:04
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ForgeAusserendipity Crashed :)22:04
CrashedMy last system (which I was using for 8 years straight, up until yesterday!) only had 12.5. That was a hassle.22:04
Crashedmefisto: I prefer command line for quick data like that.22:04
sub[t]rnlhehe, file size view in konq is nice too, for hunting down the hogs22:05
* ForgeAus looks around for ken22:05
sub[t]rnlbut, the cli du works just as good22:05
oloughlin75Uhhmm, I just installed compiz, and now my mouse is like invisible!!!22:05
mefisto__Crashed: yes, but file size view can quickly show you what is filling up your disks22:05
ForgeAusoh wait there is a Ken!22:05
CrashedOh, neat.22:05
jussi01!hi | Ryu01022:05
ubotuRyu010: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!22:05
CrashedI've used a program called Space Monger in Windows that does that.22:05
CrashedAnd I downloaded that xcruise linux 'game'. It's pretty cool.22:05
Ryu010anyone know where i can get a driver for a Broadcom 4328, i have spent about 3 days looking and decided to ask for help22:05
Crashed3D file system :]22:05
jussi01!bcm43xx | Ryu01022:06
ubotuRyu010: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx22:06
Ryu010i have tried that one22:06
Crashedapt-get upgrade should update all my drivers, right?22:06
unagii logged out presssed alt + e and logged back in22:06
ForgeAuswb unagi22:06
unagistill in low graphics22:06
unagistill says vesa drivers22:06
unagistill says restricted not in use22:07
nosrednaekimCrashed: it will update your kernel, yes, but you since you are running such an old kernel,......22:07
ForgeAusunagi, do you have a backup of your xorg.conf22:07
unagiyes, and that doesnt work22:07
CrashedWell, I ran that command about 8 minutes ago. It's still going.22:07
ForgeAushmm then its not xorg.conf that is the problem aparently, I'm not sure how to get a list of what xorg is doing22:08
unagiok alt tab isnt working now22:08
unagiall i did was add a string and remove a string ForgeAus22:08
jussi01Ryu010: so whats the issue, why didnt it work?22:08
ForgeAusunagi, strings can be very fickle sometimes :)22:08
unagiit was a bunch of symbols......22:08
ForgeAusjussi its functioning, but not in the mode he wants22:08
Ryu010in the wifi manager my device would not show up22:08
nosrednaekimunagi: I think bullet-proof X  is all messed up22:08
ForgeAus(its defaulting to a vesa driver instead of an nvidia one)22:08
ForgeAusbulletproof X?22:09
unagiwhy the heck is it using vesa when nvidia is listed22:09
nosrednaekimForgeAus: yeah... its a ubuntu thing22:09
nosrednaekimunagi: is your login screen brown?22:09
ForgeAusvesa mesa peice'o' .... hmmm did I say that out loud?22:10
unagino my login screen is my custom login scream22:10
oloughlin75Uhhmm, I just installed compiz, and now my mouse is like invisible!!!22:10
ForgeAuswow kewl trick oloughlin22:10
ForgeAusdoesn't sound too handy tho22:10
MartinCleaverI currently run Centos 5.1 on my quad core desktop. I just downloaded the kubuntu 7.1 amd64.iso DVD and want to try it. Will installing from this DVD make the machine dual boot?22:10
oloughlin75How do i get it back?!22:10
nosrednaekimMartinCleaver: you have the option22:10
CrashedWhat's the command to check your RAM stats?22:10
unagiok fine22:11
nosrednaekimunagi: so, its gdm?22:11
jussi01Crashed: free22:11
unagii dont know22:11
unagii guess22:11
oloughlin75It is a bit hard to find a button by trying to make it look selected..22:11
unagii changed it to kdm i guess it defaulted back22:11
unagido i have to fix it in gnome?22:11
* ForgeAus shrugs22:11
nosrednaekimunagi: thats very possible...22:11
nosrednaekimunagi: change to kdm and then reboot...22:11
unagii did change to kdm22:12
CrashedI read briefly, but why does Kubuntu try to use up 90% RAM?22:12
ForgeAusGDM KDM WDM XDM they're all just different types of the same thing22:12
unagiapparently it didnt work22:12
nosrednaekimCrashed: look at the line that says +/- buffers/cache22:12
SlimeyPeteCrashed: it caches programs and data which you have used so that it doesn't have to load from disk next time you use them22:12
CrashedSo the cache is basically memory it's using, but just for convenience?22:13
mefisto__Crashed: it doesn't use up ram, it puts it to use22:13
oloughlin75and performance22:13
trappistCrashed: it un-caches when it needs the ram22:13
nosrednaekimCrashed: right, and it can be quickly allocated to "real memory"22:13
CrashedSorry, I've been using windows for so long that that's been the primary use of ram. Using it up.22:13
CrashedAlright, that's cool.22:13
oloughlin75Does anyone know to make the mouse visible?22:13
ForgeAusWindows is the same, using ram, caching ram22:13
Crashed747 - 270 = "real" used ram22:14
trappistoloughlin75: you have an invisible mouse?!22:14
oloughlin75trappist: yes!22:14
trappistthat's awesome.22:14
oloughlin75It is there because buttons become selected22:14
nosrednaekimCrashed: maybe...22:14
ForgeAushehe I thought so to trappist, as to how to fix it, however22:14
oloughlin75but its awfully hard to use22:14
nosrednaekimoloughlin75: are you actually running compiz?22:14
oloughlin75i have no idea22:14
mefisto__oloughlin75: my guess is you need some option in xorg.conf specific to your videocard/driver22:14
oloughlin75Does video card affect the display of the mouse? The bouncing icons and scrolling and stuff are still working22:15
trappistoloughlin75: yes, it does22:15
ForgeAuswhy are your icons bouncing?22:15
oloughlin75when i launch a program22:15
trappistoloughlin75: or, it can.  your video card can be put in charge of rendering the mouse cursor.22:15
ForgeAushehe I was kidding22:15
oloughlin75you know how it does the bouncing when it loads22:16
mefisto__oloughlin75: setting options in xorg.conf can work around problems that drivers can have22:16
oloughlin75... what should I set?22:16
nosrednaekimoloughlin75: and only now just happened when you installed compiz?22:16
oloughlin75yes nosrednaekim22:16
oloughlin75i logged out and it disappeared22:16
nosrednaekimoloughlin75: try running "compiz --replace" and seeif it comes back22:16
ForgeAusit can also remove those gawd-awful messages you get in a console/terminal window when you run programs because the touchpad drivers are enabled22:17
ForgeAusassuming your using a desktop PC that is22:17
wilbur__where do i get alsaconf ?22:17
oloughlin75how do i disable compiz?22:17
nosrednaekimForgeAus: you only need those if you have a touchscreen, I turn them off on my laptop as well22:17
nosrednaekimoloughlin75: "kwin --replace22:18
nosrednaekimoloughlin75: and uninstall it..22:18
ForgeAusTouchScreen? wow thats unlikely22:18
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)22:18
Bauldrickjust need the add22:18
ForgeAusalthough that being said I'd love a 17" convertible notebook... when technology catches up :)22:18
ForgeAusthen again I guess I'd settle for A4 size thats enough for me...22:19
CrashedBack to pretending I know how to install mythtv / kdetv / tv time.22:19
ForgeAusnot sure that displays come in a4 size tho22:19
ForgeAuslol Crashed22:19
ForgeAusyou have video in/out on your display hardware?22:20
CrashedAw man. This tutorial sucks.22:20
CrashedIt wants me to install php/mysql/phpmyadmin.22:20
nosrednaekimdon't do mythtv!22:20
Crashedvideo in/out? I have a tv tuner :P22:20
nosrednaekimits complicated..22:20
CrashedI have s-out, I think.22:20
Crashed...okay. TV Time time.22:21
ForgeAusVideo4Linux uh?22:21
ForgeAusKdeTV sounds good22:21
Crashedkdetv.org isn't even up anymore.22:21
CrashedWould you go out and buy a new ford if ford didn't even exist!? :|22:22
ForgeAushow about a used ford?22:22
Crashedxvoutput: No XVIDEO port found which supports YUY2 images.22:22
ForgeAuscan't say I'm used to Ford not existing22:22
CrashedWould I be getting that error because I don't have the cable hooked up at this very moment>22:23
ArwenCrashed, what video card?22:23
DareDevillsub[t]rnl hi22:23
Arwenand try software YUV -> RGB conversion then22:23
ForgeAusArwen its a tv tuner22:23
ArwenForgeAus, you can't output video through a TV tuner...22:23
ForgeAusahh ok...22:24
ForgeAusinteresting, I think mine does but Crashed, maybe you odn't have one?22:24
Arwenmost cards support YUY2...22:24
sub[t]rnlDareDevill➜ greetings22:24
Agent_bobi'm having trouble with a shell script.  can't seem to get [ 1 -gt UID ]   to work correctly   and it turns out that UID is not set,  any insight ?22:25
CrashedArwen: X800XL, but does a video card even have to do anything with a tv tuner card?22:25
mefisto__Crashed: did kdetv start up with a wizard on the first run?22:25
CrashedI just yanked the cable off my tv, and rewired the entire FLOOR to hook it up to my PC :P22:25
Dr_WillisAgent_bob,  isent is $UID ?22:25
Crashedmefisto: I think it did, but it crashed instantly.22:25
ArwenCrashed, I'm assuming you're trying to watch videos from the XVIDEO error22:25
Arwenif not, please ignore me...22:26
nosrednaekimsub[t]rnl➜ I like that little icon :)22:26
Dr_WillisAgent_bob,  i would have to say - check the advanced bash scripting guides for examples. :) thats what i always do.22:26
CrashedI'm trying to watch TV :]22:26
Agent_bobDr_Willis in english please ?22:26
kaminixDon't remember how I turned it off, but how do I turn on the adept auto updating utility?22:26
ForgeAusArwen I just don't find you ingorable22:26
ArwenCrashed, on your display?22:26
Arwenor on your TV?22:26
Dr_WillisAgent_bob,  try echo UID, and echo $UID22:26
sub[t]rnlAgent_bob➜ echo $UID22:26
ForgeAuskaminix adept_updater ?22:26
Dr_WillisAgent_bob,  bash basics.. variables start with a $22:26
Agent_bobDr_Willis yes, it's not set.22:26
ForgeAussomething like that22:26
CrashedArwen: on my TV tuner.22:27
CrashedOn my PC.22:27
ForgeAuscheck out your /usr/bin dir, thers lotsa adept_this and adept_that22:27
mefisto__kaminix: it's adept_notifier22:27
ForgeAusone of them is the reminder22:27
CrashedOn my monitor.22:27
kaminixForgeAus: But how do I set it to autostart without some ugly .kde/Autostart script?22:27
nosrednaekimCrashed➜ with your eyes...22:27
ArwenCrashed, then at some point the video must go through your video card and onto your display22:27
ForgeAusahh see Mefisto knows :)22:27
CrashedI hope that clears it up, but I just confused myself :P22:27
Dr_Willis echo $UID --------> 100022:27
ForgeAusit will ask you when you close it kaminix22:27
Arwenso your drivers must support hardware overlays or something22:27
wilbur__How do I reinstall ALSA22:27
wilbur__please help22:27
Arwenor you must use software color conversion22:27
Arwenyou using fglrx?22:27
CrashedI'll do anything, I just don't know how to do anything.22:27
Agent_bobecho "uid is $UID" -----> uid is22:27
CrashedThanks to nosrednaekim.22:28
Arwendo you have Option "VideoOverlays" "On"?22:28
nosrednaekimArwen➜ probably not22:28
Dr_Willis echo "uid is $UID"22:28
Dr_Willisuid is 100022:28
kaminixForgeAus, mefisto__: Thanks22:28
Arwenyou need it, fglrx runs with no XVideo otherwise22:28
CrashedWhat file was it, again?22:28
Agent_boblike i said,   it's not set.   so i'm wondering why22:28
nosrednaekimArwen➜ yep... forgot about that....22:28
Arwen/etc/X11/xorg.conf under "Device"22:28
nosrednaekimCrashed➜ just a sec, there'sa fast command you can run to set it22:28
sub[t]rnlAgent_bob➜ thats strange, UID is an internal var set by bash22:28
Dr_Willistry in a different terminal? - never heard of that getting unset.22:28
MartinCleaverthanks nosrednaekim22:29
Dr_WillisMay want to check in #BASH - there may be some thing going on - we are missing22:29
wilbur__How do I remove and reinstall ALSA22:29
Agent_bobwell it isn't bash.  it's dash   do they have a channel ?22:29
ForgeAuswait in Bash?22:29
sub[t]rnlif he's using bash, and isn't doing unset UID in his ~/.bashrc, it should be there22:29
sub[t]rnlah ha, its dash, not bash22:29
ForgeAusdash in ubuntu yeah22:30
CrashedLook good?22:30
ForgeAusbut it is bashish :)22:30
Agent_bobForgeAus yes shell script.   not a bash script.22:30
Agent_bobno bashism involved.22:30
nosrednaekimCrashed➜ "sudo aticonfig --ovt"22:30
Crashedwould it be okay if I renamed the identifier from generic to x800XL?22:30
ForgeAuswell a particular type of shell script22:30
ForgeAusof course theres several types of shells too22:31
nosrednaekimCrashed➜ don't modify things you don't have to in that file22:31
CrashedRan that, nosred.22:31
Dr_Willisdash is the default system shell, its 'sh' not bash. so there may be differances.. never noticed that one befor.22:31
CrashedChecked the file, that option isn't there.22:31
nosrednaekimCrashed➜ ooops,don't run that command... well ok, no big deal22:31
mefisto__Crashed: you can if you also change the reference to it in the server layout section22:31
nosrednaekimCrashed➜ the command is "sudo aticonfig --ovon"22:31
Dr_Willisdash does not seem to set the UID22:32
ForgeAusactually it stands for debian some-name-starting-with-a shell :)22:32
CrashedRan that too, nothing there :P22:32
sub[t]rnlAgent_bob➜ set one of your own then!22:32
nosrednaekimCrashed➜ meh....22:32
Arwenhaving VideoOverlay on requires OpenGLOverlay off, but that's actually misleading since it switches XV off on demand :-P22:32
ForgeAusof course its based on the ash shell which itself is based on sh :)22:32
sub[t]rnltry something like... id |awk '{print $1}' |sed 's/uid=//'22:32
CrashedShould I do it manually?22:32
nosrednaekimCrashed➜ sure22:32
Agent_bobtest# echo -e '#!/bin/dash \n\necho "uid is $UID"' > testing.sh ;sh testing.sh22:32
Dr_Willisi just ran dash and looked at 'set'22:33
Dr_Willisuid was not set. :)22:33
Agent_bobsee if your UID is set in dash or not.   i may have something else broken.22:33
nosrednaekimCrashed➜ be careful where you put it...22:33
Agent_bobso i can't use UID in shell scripts...   hmmm22:34
Crashedhttp://pastebin.com/me53b299 - put it right there.22:34
sub[t]rnlAgent_bob➜ set one yourself..22:34
nosrednaekimCrashed➜ looking22:34
Agent_boband USER is not readonly  so anyone can do an# USER=root ;myscript.sh22:34
nosrednaekimCrashed➜ wrong paste.......22:35
Agent_bobsub[t]rnl heh  yeah  but this needs to identify the user not have the user identify themselves22:35
CrashedThe copy + paste functionality doesn't seem up to par with windows.22:35
nosrednaekimCrashed➜ there are hotkeys...22:36
CrashedYeah, that's what I'm using.22:36
SlimeyPeteCrashed: there's also the mousebuffer, which can be handy22:36
Agent_bobCrashed true.  it has so many more functions that it's impossable to use as a point/click thing22:36
nosrednaekimCrashed➜ I suppose thats right....22:37
CrashedWhat is?22:37
Agent_bobCrashed left click higlight   point where you want it pasted and middle click22:37
nosrednaekimthe location, and what it says.22:37
CrashedThe error seems right?22:37
nosrednaekimCrashed➜ no...the new file22:38
CrashedI'm trying to do a little hack that this site is explaining, but when running the command 'sudo rmmod saa7134_alsa && sudo rmmod saa7134 && sudo modprobe saa7134' - I get the error that saa7134 is in use.22:39
CrashedI made sure mythtv, tv time, and kdetime aren't running.22:39
nosrednaekimCrashed➜ you probably have tvtime or another video program running.22:39
Crashedps doesn't show them22:40
nosrednaekimhum, odd.22:40
Crashedps aux | grep tv comes up nothing.22:40
Agent_bobwell my script wants to do one thing for users and another for root.   but if it can't tell who is root and who isn't, then i'm Yobe'd22:40
nosrednaekimCrashed➜ well, I don't know what could be using it, and I don't know any commands to tell you.22:41
nosrednaekimCrashed➜ well, now that you fixed X, maybe try restart X...22:42
Crashedrestart isn't a command.22:42
unagisudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart22:43
sub[t]rnlps aux |grep anything <- kinda silly to just check if a process is running. Better to just use pgrep -l something22:43
Agent_bobsudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart    <generic22:43
sub[t]rnl /tipoftheday22:43
* sub[t]rnl goes back to corner22:43
unagii could use ?dm in my script22:43
Agent_bobsub[t]rnl or pidof22:44
nosrednaekimunagi➜ I don't think so...22:44
unagiwhy not22:44
sub[t]rnlAgent_bob➜ pidof doesn't function like pgrep.  pgrep you can enter partial commands, and it will turn up all relevant22:44
Agent_bobunagi ? will match any single char.22:45
sub[t]rnllike, pgrep -l kon (will show konqueror, konsole, et cetra) pidof has to be exact22:45
sub[t]rnlhence the "grep" in pgrep22:45
unagi?? for 2 chars?22:45
Agent_bobsub[t]rnl didn't say it was the same.22:45
Agent_bobunagi yes22:45
giuseppequalcuno sa come cambiare lingua a kubuntu?22:45
sub[t]rnlyeah, thast why its -not- better to use pidof22:45
nosrednaekimooo, you can actually do that with any command? cool!22:45
jussi01!it | giuseppe22:45
ubotugiuseppe: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!22:45
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Agent_bobunagi like rm $HOME/.??*  is safer than  rm $HOME/.*  because .. matches .*  but not .??*22:46
oloughlin75Alright--- help with the mouse... im back22:47
DexterFtrying to play back an mkv file, folds a full hd video. tried smplayer, mplayer, kaffeine, vlc so far, none of them are doing too well.22:47
DexterFvlc screws up generally, kaffeine stutters, mplayer de-syncs audio/video22:48
SlimeyPeteDexterF: what output modules are they using?22:48
SlimeyPetexv? vesa?22:48
unagiim so happy to have my video back =)\22:48
DexterFmachine is an athlon 3200+22:48
DexterFSlimeyPete: Xv on an Radeon X800 using r30022:49
Agent_bobi.e. mixed regex and shell word expansion   .* only matches inodes that start with . in the shell but the app that is acting on them may use regex where .* matches everything22:49
SlimeyPeteok. I was wondering if they were in VESA or X11 mode or something.22:49
DexterFSlimeyPete: cpu alone wouldn't even play that without losing frames22:49
ArwenDexterF, does your CPU suck? that's the obvious question to media playback issues.22:50
Arwenand what does MKV have to do with it?22:50
SlimeyPeteAthlon 3200 is not amazing but should manage HD, I've thought.22:50
unagimy trash wont let me empty it22:50
Arwenyou'd have to convert that to Intel terms for me to understand22:50
SlimeyPetecertainly 720p (even my Athlon 1.2 can manage 720p divx)22:50
Arwendoes disabling deblockign help?22:51
DexterFso then it's H264, and I've pretty much given detailed info on the cpu, Arwen22:51
SlimeyPeteH.264 is enormously cpu-hungry though22:51
SlimeyPetehrm, 3200 might not be good enough for H.264. Do you know if it works in Windows?22:51
ArwenDexterF, how am I supposed to infer that it's H.264 simply from "MKV"?22:51
Arwenthat's like inferring FLAC from an OGG extension22:51
patrick_I need help with my invisible mouse! I uninstalled compiz and it is still invisible22:52
DexterFArwen: because today hardly anything else is packed into mkv but h26422:52
patrick_im guessing if i change the theme it will work22:52
patrick_but how do i open that?22:52
* Agent_bob can't imagine blaming the cpu for such things. still using a p122:52
ArwenDexterF, I've seen MPEG-2, XviD, and WMV. Lots of things are.22:52
Arwenyou could just say "H.264"22:52
CrashedThanks for giving me a heart attack guys.22:53
CrashedVideoOverlays isn't a valid option.22:53
CrashedI had to find that out the hard way.22:53
Arwennot Overlays22:53
CrashedYou clearly said "VideoOverlays" :P22:53
Arwenhehe, sorry22:53
CrashedI rebooted my system 3 times until I finally went into the command line and tried starting X myself.22:54
DexterFArwen: made your point already and go write in your pointy-ears-poetry-book "told off guy on IRC who had a vocabulary lapse" and then feed your ego on it for the next week or so, but next time you don't have anything helpful to say, just.. don't say anything, ok?22:55
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines22:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lamenicknames - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:55
DexterFoh, none on this?22:55
jussi01DexterF: Please dont abuse the bot22:56
CrashedHow do you restart X again?22:56
Crashedsomething init.d restart22:56
SlimeyPeteDexterF: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=85618     <--- suggests your proc may just not be quite up to it22:56
DexterFCrashed: ctrl-alt-backspace the none-kind way :)22:56
geniiperhaps sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart22:56
SlimeyPeteif it's 1080p22:56
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto22:56
Agent_bobsudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart22:56
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geniiAgent_bob: Ys, all depends on your display manager22:57
Agent_bobsudo /etc/init.d/?dm [start|stop|restart]22:57
Agent_bobgenii ?22:57
Arwen[17:56] <SlimeyPete> if it's 1080p <-- 1080i would be even worse :-)22:58
mefisto__anyone had any success authoring dvds with menus in k/ubuntu?22:58
patrick_Alright, I am back. I installed compiz, and my mouse went invisible. How do I get it visible again? I cleaned the xorg.config of all the extra crap, and uninstalled compiz*22:58
DexterFSlimeyPete: I wonder if going fglrx (closed src ati driver, just in case...) might help, possible they hacked some vid acceleration into it that r300 doesnt have... totally not what I want tho, I was glad I got rid of fglrx...22:58
Agent_bobgenii i'm fameliar with xdm gdm and kdm  are there others floating around that i should know about ?22:58
SlimeyPeteDexterF: I'd put money on it, tbh22:58
SlimeyPetenot much money, though ;)22:59
ArwenATI writing decoding acceleration? yeah right..22:59
mefisto__patrick_: maybe you could pastebin your xorg.conf? someone might spot something that's causing it23:00
DexterFSlimeyPete: Socket A/AGP. Means cpu, board, ram, video have to be upped... I really consider recoding the video rather... :)23:01
Manaddoes anyone here mostly connect to the Internet through wireless?23:01
DexterFManad: just ask the question23:01
patrick_mefiest - I dont think i can manage copy and paste and navigating to pastbin and getting it without seeing the mouse23:01
SlimeyPeteManad: yes, I do23:01
CrashedVideoOverlay is also not a valid option.23:01
CrashedBy the way, are there any other handy short-cuts I should know about?23:01
CrashedCTRL + ALT + INSERT appears to restart the system.23:02
CrashedCTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE restarts X.23:02
patrick_my xorg is fine -- its the same as it was when i was using the mouse normally23:02
CrashedIs there anything that shuts down X and brings me to the command line?23:02
ManadIf I boot the computer, Network Manager won't connect to the wireless network until I go Root. I remember Windows had the same problem, you couldn't be a Limited user and use the wireless network (unless an admin was logged in and enabled it).23:02
ManadI want to know if this is a normal problem23:02
Manador if the community has an established work-around23:02
DareDevillworld>galaxy>universe>multiverse>___  whats next?23:03
DexterFManad: totally not. what wifi hardware?23:03
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Manadatheros card. Not sure which exactly. I'm using the default drivers.23:03
kaminixIs the flash plugin "supposed" to still be broken after todays update or have I messed something up?23:03
DexterFDareDevill: SumHawkingThingy? ;)23:03
Daisuke_IdoManad: if it won't connect except as root, there's a serious problem23:03
Daisuke_Idoand i assume by using it as root you mean launching it with sudo23:04
ManadDaisuke: it won't connect unless I go in and enter the password (which I can't do without being root). I know the password is right cause I had to enter it like 25 times.23:04
DareDevillDexterF ...23:04
DexterFManad: possilby replacing kdenetworkmanager with WiCD helps... at least sorted out some connection issues on a laptop I recently ran into.23:04
ManadI installed WICD (another network manager), and this one keeps me online when I boot up without having to go root. It runs a daemon constantly, which I guess is like a Linux "service" that launches at boot-time. The problem is that WICD sucks and is buggy, so if there's a way I can do it in Network Manager, I'm all ears23:04
Manadha :P23:05
DexterFManad: what version of wicd, and did you deinstall knetworkman. ?23:05
DexterFyou can only have one of those two installed or the bite each other23:05
mefisto__patrick_: you could try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to start over. maybe rename your current xorg.conf first as a backup23:05
Daisuke_Idounfortunately, i hear so many bad things about knetworkmanager that i'm extremely glad i don't use kde anymore :\23:05
Manadno, I didn't deinstall knetworkman, but I think WICD did23:05
FitzouI have some problem to install Usb Stick for wireless :s23:06
intelikeymefisto__ dpkg will backup the current config when reconfiguring23:06
DexterFManad: don't know if this leaves some junk around... I had a pretty good read-up on this, lemme see if I can find it23:06
Fitzousome french speaker ? ^^23:06
patrick_ok mef23:07
Daisuke_Ido!fr | Fitzou23:07
ubotuFitzou: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.23:07
Manadby the way, I couldn't do "apt-get remove wicd", I got a segmentation fault. Is it because it's not an official Kubuntu package?23:07
mefisto__intelikey: yeah I know, but backing it up yourself makes it easier to find (for me)23:07
Fitzouthanks ^^23:07
Daisuke_Idoapt-get caused a segfault?23:07
DexterFManad: hard to tell. you dont happen to speak german..?23:07
Manadsorry, no23:07
Manadfrench and english23:08
intelikeytry a dpkg --purge wicd23:08
ManadActually, I forgot my USB key at work, so I'm going to try to get ahold of the package files for Network Manager before I do that...so I have some way of getting back online :P23:09
DexterFManad: installed wicd by adding the wicd deb source to your list?23:09
Manadyeah dex23:09
DexterFah, ok. well. should really have deinst'ed knetworkm. well... som you removed wicd and reinst'ed knwm?23:10
Manadno, I have not. I'm planning on doing that, which is why I asked if it was possible to ever make it remember the WPA key if I'm not root23:10
DexterFManad: guess youll have to manually dive into the conf files and hack them up good. or reconf the corresponding packages.23:11
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ManadI don't know I know how to do that. Are there specific insturctions somewhere?23:12
DexterFManad: looks like a permissions problem to me tho. did your wifi work out of the box?23:12
Manadyeah it did23:12
DexterFas root only then, too?23:12
Manadwell, basically, to enter the WPA key, I had to be root. Then the internet works, until I reboot. After a reboot, I can't logon to the wireless network until I go in the network manager and re-enter my WPA key (it wasn't empty: the previous one was there (albeit hidden)). But re-entering it makes me connect immediately.23:14
unagiwhere are default kde icons located23:14
Arwen/usr/share/icons/stuff I think23:14
CrashedArwen: was it you who suggested I add VideoOverlay to xorg.conf?23:14
Crasheddidn't work :(23:15
CrashedSame error as VideoOverlays. Unsupported option.23:15
Arwenpastebin your xorg.conf23:15
Arwenremember, it's:23:16
ArwenOption "VideoOverlay" "On"23:16
DexterFManad: well, I'd say go with intelikeys suggestion and purge wicd, reinst knwm and reconf from sys settings. you might need to have a look at the files, dont know right now where the wifi setting ssit, somewhere in /etc23:16
Arwenunder the device section23:16
CrashedIdentity "Blah"23:16
Manadhow can I download a package without installing it?23:16
CrashedOption "VideoOverlay" "On"23:16
CrashedLike that?23:16
CrashedAh! I misunderstood before.23:16
ArwenI assume you mean "Identifier"23:16
DexterFManad: apt-get download or so. its in the manpage23:17
CrashedArwen: Is there a hotkey to stop X?23:17
mefisto__Manad: apt-get -d package-name23:17
cpk1Manad: aptitude download23:17
CrashedSo I don't have to reboot again if this doesn't work.23:17
Manadand what do you mean by "reconf from sys settings". Is there a "Restore" function of sorts? My panel just crashed, so I can't take a look right now.23:17
DexterFSlimeyPete: its only 720p even. guess the file might me fscked up23:17
frank23Crashed: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace restarts X23:18
CrashedYeah, frank, but if Xorg.conf is broke then restarting it won't help :P23:18
DexterFManad: well, like go to the kmenu, sys settings, set things23:18
CrashedI'd like to drop it, go to command line and edit xorg.conf.23:18
sub[t]rnlCrashed➜ if xorg.conf is broke, it will take you to the command line. :P  also note sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop23:18
belorixno sound in Kubuntu when sending IM's and Receiving Ims in pidgin23:18
Crashedoh, it does?23:19
CrashedI waited like 5 minutes last time.23:19
CrashedIt was stuck on the loading screen - a broken one at that.23:19
intelikeynow i feel so stupid.    just because an internal UID or USER can't be used/trusted doesn't mean i can't use an external command to identify the user....23:19
Manadsorry about that23:19
Manadnewbie mistake23:19
Manadbut now I won't forget what CTRL ALT BACKSPACE does :P23:20
CrashedHey, worked. :]23:20
mefisto__congrats, Crashed23:20
CrashedOh man! I love you Arwen, and nosred, and everyone else here.23:20
CrashedThe TV tuner is working.23:21
unagiwhoa whoa whoa23:21
Crashed:') rather.23:21
unagii want my tuner working23:21
ManadPanel just crashed again...I think there's a lot of weird problems going on23:21
Crashedunagi: maybe you should bug everyone here like I do. :]23:21
Manadmight flatten and reinstall23:21
unagimy tuner doesnt have drivers23:21
sub[t]rnlintelikey➜ no worries, I was awk and sedding "id" earlier trying to get the uid... lol23:21
CrashedManad: if you have a SAA7130 chipset tuner then getting it to work is a matter of like 4 lines.23:21
mefisto__unagi: it might be simpler to buy a new one that is supported23:22
unagiok.....tell me where to find an express card tuner that is supported23:22
Manadwhat would that do? hardcore the WPA key in the card?23:22
Manadguys, sorry to ask this many newbie questions, but is there a keyboard shortcut for running programs? I want to open Konqueror but since the panel crashed again, there's no shortcut menu.23:23
ManadI mean a shortcut for that "Run command" box23:24
DragnslcrAlt-F2 I think23:24
Manadnot working. I guess it's dependent on the panel.23:24
DragnslcrKatapult is also nice23:24
DragnslcrYou can try Alt-Space to see if it's running23:24
CrashedIf you told someone to use Alt + F2 in Windows they'd probably say 'you cant trick me that easy...'23:24
sub[t]rnlManad➜ alt+f2 is not dependent on kicker23:25
SpeShow can I export-import my mail and config from kmail??23:25
SpeSI've copied all files in dirs apps/kde and config... but my old mails aren't still here... ¿?23:25
stratman4300Any Kmail users out there??23:27
stratman4300i've been having some wierd problems with my filters...  if i tell it to filter all messages..  i goes through the list like it's filtering. then it just spits everything back into my inbox23:28
stratman4300anyone else run into this??23:28
Agent_bobsub[t]rnl heh.  yeah.  have been for a long time.     i'm also _2 some times.23:28
CrashedI need a remote for this tv tuner now.23:29
sub[t]rnlroger that23:29
CrashedAre there specific remotes for specific tv tuners, or can you go out and buy a universal remote?23:29
CrashedErr, excuse my language. I just noticed that I'm not getting any sound :(23:30
ArwenCrashed, are you using MPlayer?23:31
Agent_bobsub[t]rnl this was what i was doing.  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d140b843323:31
sub[t]rnlsh == dash right23:31
Arwenwell, bah, are you getting any errors?23:31
CrashedI *had* Amarok open.23:31
sebastianwhere can i find the update program?23:31
CrashedYeah, hold on23:32
CrashedI'm growing fond of Kubuntu now. :]23:32
Agent_bobsub[t]rnl actually   sh == posix compliant shell     dash is posix compliant.   bash qualifies but adds bash extentions   so a sh or dash script will work in bash but a bash script may fail in sh or dash23:32
sebastiananyone know where i can find the update program?23:32
Crashed1: it's shiny 2: it's linux (enough said, am I right?) 3: you guys are the most helpful community i've ever encountered.23:32
Arwenthe update program? and err, I don't see an error.23:33
CrashedThose are the only errors it gives.23:33
ArwenCrashed, well, I need more details to give you a meaningful answer.23:33
Agent_bobsub[t]rnl which update program ?    /usr/sbin/update* ?23:33
sub[t]rnlAgent_bob➜ what now?23:34
sebastianno, the update program for kubuntu23:34
ArwenTry using MPlayer to watch TV23:34
Agent_bobsub[t]rnl sorry nick completion.  that last was for sebastian  not you.23:34
mefisto__sebastian: adept?23:34
CrashedArwen: what details are you looking for?23:34
CrashedEr, MPlayer? I don't think I have that.23:34
Arwenaudio codec, stream format, audio output method, stuff like that23:34
CrashedShould I install it?23:35
Arwendunno, one second23:35
Agent_bobsebastian "update manager" in kde ?23:35
sub[t]rnlAgent_bob➜ kk.  nice script btw. &&\ <- why the ending slash?23:35
sebastianwhere can i find the update manager?23:36
Agent_bobsub[t]rnl that continuse the line,  or more specifically comments out the newline.23:36
oloughlin75Is there a way to copy the xorg.conf that is working on the livecd to the one on the hard drive?23:36
sub[t]rnlAgent_bob➜ all the /dev/null's :D  ever looked at 2>&- to disable stderr?23:36
CrashedArwen: How would I give you the information you need?23:36
sebastianwhere can i find the update manager, please help23:37
mefisto__sebastian: in the system menu, or type adept_updater23:37
Agent_bobsub[t]rnl again posix compliant not bashism23:37
sub[t]rnli c23:37
ArwenCrashed, I don't know. If you played the stream with MPlayer, it'd print this stuff but...23:37
Arwenmaybe your capture card specs will do23:37
sebastiani found it23:37
* Arwen doesn't know how to watch TV with MPlayer23:38
* Crashed installs mplayer23:38
Agent_bobsub[t]rnl probably one of my most used scripts.  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d5c1c23e023:39
CrashedI tried mplayer tv://23:39
mefisto__Crashed: kmplayer can use your tv card23:39
CrashedI get a green screen.23:39
sub[t]rnlAgent_bob➜ now thats handy too23:39
Crashedmefisto: will it be able to give arwen the info he needs?23:39
mefisto__what info?23:40
oloughlin75My xorg.conf is not working, I am on a livecd that does. Is there a way to copy it over?23:40
CrashedAudio codecs and stuff.23:40
CrashedTV Time isn't playing any sound.23:40
gary_I've got 102 messages on a pop3 account that kmail simply refuses to download. I can telnet to the pop3 server, so there are no connection problems.23:41
oloughlin75damn, i gues ill just reinstall23:41
frank23Crashed: what kind of tuner is it? some have a sound cable that has to loop back to the sound card input23:41
gary_Can i debug kmail?23:41
CrashedIt's some phillips tuner23:42
mefisto__Crashed: "sudo lshw |grep -i bttv" might tell you something23:42
ArwenCrashed, also take care that your sound is being routed right. I read that it goes to your sound card's line-in?23:42
CrashedWell, there's a bunch of jacks in the back of my tuner card.23:42
CrashedLooks like they're for sound.23:43
Agent_bobsub[t]rnl here's a toy for you.  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=da30e9bc23:43
oloughlin75This is my 5th time install kubuntu in the past day and a half23:43
Agent_bobor this one  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d7fb3c5c223:43
mefisto__Crashed: normally sound out of tv card -> in sound card (with a cable)23:43
* linhack hallo23:43
sub[t]rnlAgent_bob➜ these all yours?23:43
sebastianwhere can i find the update manager?23:44
Crashedthere's no cables here mefisto23:44
gary_kmail says Transmission complete, No new messages.23:44
sub[t]rnlnice man23:44
frank23Crashed: there might be IR input, IR output and maybe sound23:44
mefisto__sebastian: did you lose it again?23:44
gary_I know there's a bunch.23:44
CrashedAUDIO IN, AUDIO OUT, REMOTE in the back.23:44
sebastianit werent the right one23:44
Agent_bobsub[t]rnl like "do-nothin'"  scripts ?    i wrote "runners" to replace "spinners"  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d7710e54323:45
CrashedVHS, CABLE, VIDEO IN23:45
sebastianbefore it started itself when i logged into the computer, but now it wont23:45
mefisto__Crashed: audio out should connect to your sound card's line in23:45
sub[t]rnlAgent_bob➜ I like the percentage display on your mem script.23:45
CrashedThat it does not do, mefisto.23:45
gary_lil help please?23:46
CrashedI don't know what kind of cord connects to those.23:46
mefisto__Crashed: you probably won't get sound from the tv card without the cable23:46
sebastianwhere can i find the update manager??23:46
mefisto__sebastian: in the system menu, or type adept_updater23:46
gary_I like kontact. I really don't want to use evo.23:46
sebastiantype in the terminal?23:47
Crashed mefisto: do you know what kind of cable would hook up to these ports? They're different sizes.23:47
Crashedoh nevermind!23:48
CrashedThey're not different sizes.23:48
frank23sebastian: in the K menu->System->Adept Package manager23:48
CrashedThey're jsut very deceving :P23:48
CrashedI rerouted the audio out on the sound card to the audio out on the tv tuner,.23:48
Agent_bobin case any one missed the "mem" script.   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d28bc7439   <<< displays the actual memory usage.23:49
CrashedWhat the hell, TV Time isn't running, but I can hear 'Canada's Worst Handyman' playing.23:49
mefisto__Crashed: should be line in of the sound card23:49
Crashedmefisto: why is it playing sound if tv time isn't running? :(23:50
mefisto__Crashed: maybe check ksysguard to see if it's still there, or some other player23:51
frank23Crashed: the card probably sends sound output all the time23:51
Crashedso it's constantly using cpu and disk space?23:51
Agent_bobsub[t]rnl here's one you might like.  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d71405ced   temp.23:51
frank23Crashed: not necessarily. card does probably all the work23:51
sub[t]rnlget outta myy /proc!!!!23:52
CrashedIt's a cheap $20 card.23:52
sub[t]rnlAgent_bob➜ remind me, the test condition -z returns "true" if file is.. empty?23:52
CrashedI got the 64 3000+ s939 for $10 :)23:52
sub[t]rnlcan't remember23:52
CrashedI guess I just got it cheap.23:52
frank23Crashed: that doesn't surprise me ;-) I had a card like that and gave up on it23:53
Agent_bobsub[t]rnl -z if it doesnt exist23:53
mefisto__Crashed: the audio side of it is very simple. the tv card is receiving tv signal, you've plugged the sound into your sound card. the pc is just processing sound with your soundcard23:53
CrashedAh, I see.23:53
Agent_bobsub[t]rnl  [ -z "" ]  is true.   [ -z "anything" ] is false23:53
CrashedI have to press 'Q' to quit tvtime.23:53
CrashedKilling the process isn't enough.23:54
frank23Crashed: and the sound on cable is just some fm channel I think23:54
ArwenCrashed, you watching digital TV or analog?23:54
Arwenfor analog, you just plug into your sound card23:54
wilbur_when starting ndisgtk, it states "loading application", then just disappears... anyone know how to fix this ?23:54
Arweneasy :-)23:54
sub[t]rnlAgent_bob➜ nice work.  I use conky to keep real time light weight displays of my system, but its fun looking at code. thanks23:54
CrashedArwen: do you have experience with TV Time?23:54
sub[t]rnlAgent_bob➜ trying to learn myself23:54
Agent_bobsub[t]rnl so [ -z "$1" ] is true if they entered a command line argument, false if they didn't.23:54
frank23wilbur_: try sudo ndisgtk in a terminal23:54
CrashedHm, so you wouldn't know if it's current saving a bunch of TV on my system?23:54
gary_This is weird.. Thunderbird works just fine.23:54
sub[t]rnlAgent_bob➜ I just used, if [ $1 ]; then23:55
sub[t]rnlAgent_bob➜ but again, I'm bash23:55
Agent_bobsub[t]rnl that's a different test.  that tests if the command "$1" expands to is true or not.23:55
frank23Crashed: the people at #ubuntu-mythtv have lots of experience with tv tuners23:56
belorixNo sound when IMing in Pidgin but works for everything else please help23:56
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mefisto__Crashed: here's a tip. if you have an old vcr lying around, you can use the vcr's tv tuner to get the tv signal, and plug it into the tv card's video input. you'll get a much better signal than a cheap (or even expensive) tv card23:57
CrashedOh really mefisto?23:57
CrashedI've got a bunch of VCRs laying around that my mom was gonna throw out the other day.23:57
CrashedThat's an awesome tip. :]23:57
Agent_bobsub[t]rnl i.e.   [ ! -z "$1" ] == [ "$1" ]23:57
sub[t]rnlAgent_bob➜ right, just saying thats how I check for a positional param23:58
sub[t]rnlAgent_bob➜ mind if I pm?23:58
ArwenCrashed, go watch digital TV. It's much more fun.23:58
CrashedI've got digital upstairs.23:58
CrashedThis TV seems a bit lagged.23:58
Agent_bobsub[t]rnl i'm not registered.  so i can't reply23:58
frank23mefisto__: is that true? what would be the difference between that and the tuner on the card itself. I figured the video capture is where you lose quality23:58
CrashedAnd terrible quality :P23:58
mefisto__Crashed: you'll have to change the video input to "composite" or "s-video" instead of "tuner" in whatever program you're watching in23:58
sub[t]rnlbah, lazy23:59
ArwenCrashed, heh23:59
CrashedWhen I changed it to composite, it gave me a blank screen.23:59
sub[t]rnlAgent_bob➜ say I wanted to store $5 through $9 in a var.  whats the cleanest way to do it?23:59
mefisto__frank23: they just skimp on the tuner in most tv cards. vcrs have pretty good quality tuners23:59

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