| elmo | launchpad is going down at 00:20 UTC for 15 minutes for emergency maintenance | 00:03 |
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| geser | steveire: version is ok now, it takes some time after a upload till it appears in the build queue | 00:06 |
| geser | steveire: iirc new uploads are added to the build queue every twenty minutes (:00, :20, :40) | 00:07 |
| steveire | OK, so I'll check back tomorrow. Thanks for the help | 00:07 |
| geser | steveire: you got a mail that you uploaded was accepted? | 00:09 |
| steveire | geser: Yes | 00:13 |
| geser | good, so either have tomorrow build .debs or mails about a build failure | 00:14 |
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| steveire | I'm getting some emails about failure I think (State: Chroot problem) | 00:24 |
| steveire | I guess it's due to lp being down as elmo said | 00:26 |
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| steveire | elmo: Do I restart my build somehow, or is it automatic? | 00:33 |
| elmo | steveire: I'm sorry, I'm just a reboot monkey - if you're having problems with your build, you might want to file a question about it in the answer tracker | 00:33 |
| steveire | OK | 00:34 |
| elmo | steveire: it's very unlikely to have been affected by the emergency maintenance I was doing, FWIW | 00:34 |
| poolie | steveire, i would guess it would be detected as dead and restarted | 00:34 |
| poolie | but, you'd have to check | 00:34 |
| Hobbsee | if it's a chroot problem, the wise idea would be for someone to check the chroots, and see why it die | 00:34 |
| Hobbsee | d | 00:34 |
| emgent | i'm in gutsy | 00:34 |
| emgent | ops | 00:35 |
| emgent | worng window | 00:35 |
| emgent | s/worng/wrong/ | 00:35 |
| steveire | Hobbsee: http://rafb.net/p/Q5SSN692.html <<< It means nothing to me. | 00:36 |
| steveire | Hobbsee: You're a gearhead, right? Do you build kde from trunk on kubuntu? | 00:36 |
| Hobbsee | steveire: not usually. i occasionally build parts of it | 00:39 |
| steveire | Hobbsee: OK. It's just that kubuntu doesn't tend to keep up with the build deps of it. I'm wondering how kde devs on kubuntu do it. | 00:40 |
| Hobbsee | steveire: which package, and which arch? | 00:40 |
| * Hobbsee is a ubuntu/kubuntu dev, not a kde dev | 00:40 | |
| Hobbsee | er, which package, and which ppa? | 00:40 |
| Hobbsee | oh, xine-lib | 00:41 |
| steveire | libxine and my ppa https://launchpad.net/~steveire/+archive | 00:41 |
| * Hobbsee retries the build | 00:41 | |
| steveire | Hobbsee: You can rekick the build on the lp servers? | 00:41 |
| Hobbsee | yeah | 00:42 |
| Hobbsee | you can too, for ppa | 00:42 |
| steveire | Really? How? | 00:43 |
| Hobbsee | click the build, hit retry build | 00:43 |
| steveire | same chroot issue | 00:44 |
| Hobbsee | i think this is a launchpad bug. | 00:45 |
| steveire | http://ppa.launchpad.net/steveire/ubuntu really doesn't exist | 00:45 |
| Hobbsee | exactly | 00:46 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: can you fix it? | 00:46 |
| Hobbsee | he's idling. slacker. | 00:48 |
| mtaylor | statik: bah. | 00:49 |
| mtaylor | statik: you do stuff with buildbot from time to time, right? | 00:50 |
| steveire | mtaylor: You having the same issue? | 00:54 |
| mtaylor | steveire: I don't think so... sorry | 00:55 |
| mtaylor | steveire: I'm actually screwing around the the buildbot software, not to be confusted with launchpad's build stuff | 00:55 |
| mtaylor | steveire: but let me read the scroll-back | 00:56 |
| Hobbsee | mtaylor: (it's not) | 00:56 |
| mtaylor | Hobbsee: I agree | 00:59 |
| persia | Hello. I've not been getting "Accepted" or "NEW" emails from Soyuz so far this morning. I know there was an outage earlier, but I thought it was addressed (as the web interface seems to be working properly again). Is there still something pending? Should I expect my uploads to be processed later? | 01:49 |
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| emgent | ... | 03:04 |
| emgent | dermoth, STOP! | 03:40 |
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| emgent | thanks statik | 04:04 |
| emgent | stub | 04:04 |
| emgent | :) | 04:04 |
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| method | Does PPA sometimes take an incredibly long time after building to transfer the debs over, or do they tend to get lost? | 04:56 |
| jamesh | I guess he didn't want an answer ... | 04:59 |
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| carlos | morning | 07:49 |
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| geser | can "dpkg-genchanges: warning: missing Section for binary package libaspectr all; using '-'" cause a "Failed to upload" error after a build? | 11:16 |
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| Hobbsee | cprov: found a bug, btw. | 11:53 |
| cprov | Hobbsee: hi. | 11:54 |
| cprov | Hobbsee: which one ? | 11:54 |
| Hobbsee | cprov: do i need to proxy-file it, or actually use effort and properly file it? | 11:54 |
| Hobbsee | cprov: the chroot waits for hte first package on any ppa | 11:54 |
| Hobbsee | cprov: as in: user activates ppa, user uploads package, package gets stuck in chroot problem, enosolution, go bug cprov. | 11:55 |
| cprov | Hobbsee: chroot wait have to be retried manually, atm | 11:56 |
| Hobbsee | cprov: sure, but the problem isn't that the chroot waits need to be retried, it's that they occur in the first place. | 11:56 |
| Hobbsee | cprov: it's because ppa is attempting to check the packages in the new person's ppa, which doesn't exist, so gets back a 404, and dies with a chroot error. | 11:57 |
| cprov | Hobbsee: fine, but we do recognized missing/broken archive as chroot-wait. File a bug about this situation, I will discuss a solution with Adam. | 11:59 |
| Hobbsee | cprov: right, OK. i assume that either a) you should just create an empty packages.gz file when the ppa gets activated (probably the better solution), or b) special case the ppa line check. | 12:00 |
| cprov | Hobbsee: it's a race condition between publication & build, we will sort it out. | 12:01 |
| Hobbsee | ok | 12:01 |
| geser | cprov: is the error of "Failed to upload" somewhere visible? there are some package which "failed to upload" after build and I would like to know why | 12:11 |
| cprov | Hobbsee: yes, they are visible in the +builds interface. But the log of the failure is only sent in the build-failure-notification. | 12:13 |
| cprov | Hobbsee: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+builds?build_text=&build_state=uploadfail | 12:14 |
| geser | cprov: I guess you mean me and not Hobbsee | 12:16 |
| cprov | geser: err, exactly, sorry. | 12:17 |
| geser | cprov: can "dpkg-genchanges: warning: missing Section for binary package libaspectr all; using '-'" cause a "Failed to upload" error? | 12:17 |
| cprov | geser: is it in you PPA or in ubuntu ? | 12:17 |
| geser | in Ubuntu | 12:17 |
| cprov | geser: yes, it does | 12:18 |
| geser | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libaspectr/0.3.5-3ubuntu1/+build/478768 | 12:18 |
| cprov | 22:38:37 WARNING Upload was rejected: | 12:19 |
| cprov | 22:38:37 WARNING libaspectr_0.3.5-3ubuntu1_all.deb control file lists section as main/ but changes file has main/misc. | 12:19 |
| geser | cprov: so the solution here is to fix the package (add a Section)? | 12:20 |
| cprov | geser: yes, because the soyuz changesfile parser will assume "misc", IIRC | 12:22 |
| elmo | cprov: soyuz should really be more lenient about section mismatches like that | 12:22 |
| cprov | geser: which will conflict with the 'empty' one set in the control file | 12:22 |
| elmo | cprov: esp. in ppa - all it does is cause user confusion | 12:22 |
| cprov | elmo: yes, I agree for the PPA context. Although we should keep the restriction to ubuntu primary archive, right ? | 12:24 |
| geser | cprov: is it worth to file a bug that the reason for "failed to upload" be public (e.g. attached to the build log) so interested persons can find out why (and not only the uploader)? right now I can only guess why a package failed to upload. | 12:26 |
| Hobbsee | geser: nwo that would destroy the fun of guessing why a closed-source project happened to break this time in particular. | 12:27 |
| geser | Hobbsee: no one told me that it is intended to train your sixth sense | 12:28 |
| Hobbsee | geser: training your sixth sense is useful. | 12:28 |
| Hobbsee | geser: one of the first points in your sixth sense training is to *realise* that such things are training your sixth sense. | 12:29 |
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| geser | cprov: can you lookup the reason for the failed to upload of doc-debian in hardy? https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/doc-debian/3.1.5ubuntu1/+build/502337 | 12:37 |
| cprov | geser: 18:53:24 WARNING Upload was rejected: | 12:42 |
| cprov | 18:53:24 WARNING Unable to identify file debian-faq.en.html.tar.gz (byhand) in changes. | 12:42 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #145319 in libvirt "[l10n] PO-template wrong imported " [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/145319 | 12:46 |
| geser | cprov: what's the best way to fix this? aren't byhand entries from dpkg-distaddfile supported? | 12:52 |
| cprov | geser: not 'html.tar.gz' files | 12:53 |
| ubotu | New bug: #190906 in soyuz "Make the reason for "Failed to Upload" public" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190906 | 13:00 |
| kiko | cprov, that bug is for a public log of failures, right? | 13:02 |
| cprov | kiko: sort of, failed-to-upload happens in upload-time, it slightly different than failed-to-build | 13:03 |
| kiko | who said failed-to-build? | 13:04 |
| kiko | I meant keeping a public log of upload processing failures | 13:04 |
| cprov | kiko: you said just 'failures' and it is assumed as 'failed-to-build' | 13:05 |
| cprov | kiko: yes, 'keeping public log of binary upload processing failures' (aka failed-to-upload) | 13:06 |
| kiko | not binary uploads | 13:06 |
| kiko | source uploads. | 13:06 |
| geser | kiko: e.g. https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/kpovmodeler-kde4/+builds all failed to upload after building but there is no public log why | 13:07 |
| cprov | kiko: uhm, no, we are talking about binaries. | 13:07 |
| ubotu | New bug: #190913 in launchpad "Distinguish between GNU GPL V2 and V3 licenses" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190913 | 13:26 |
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| jelmer | jamesh: ping | 13:32 |
| jamesh | jelmer: pong | 13:32 |
| jelmer | jamesh: I would like to migrate one of my projects to launchpad | 13:32 |
| jamesh | jelmer: cool. What are you migrating from? | 13:32 |
| Hobbsee | mrevell: speaking again at the open week, i see :) | 13:32 |
| jelmer | jamesh: The bugs are currently in trac and would have to be migated | 13:33 |
| mrevell | hi Hobbsee - it's more than likely Mr Cprov will lead that session, but I shall be there :) | 13:33 |
| jamesh | jelmer: okay. That's one of the systems we haven't done a migration for, so I don't have a ready-made conversion script | 13:33 |
| Hobbsee | mrevell: ahhh | 13:33 |
| jamesh | jelmer: if you are willing to help with converting the bug data, I can give you information about what format I need the data in | 13:34 |
| Hobbsee | cprov: good luck! | 13:34 |
| jelmer | jamesh: ok | 13:35 |
| cprov | Hobbsee: normally I'd ask if really need it. However I already know the answer ('yes, i do'), so, thanks :) | 13:35 |
| Hobbsee | cprov: heh :) | 13:36 |
| cprov | Hobbsee: will you have time to attend, at least, one of them ? | 13:36 |
| Hobbsee | cprov: no helpers either, this time | 13:36 |
| Hobbsee | cprov: what for? | 13:36 |
| jamesh | jelmer: the way the importer is structured at the moment is to use an XML bug interchange file. So it will just be necessary to covert your data to that format. | 13:37 |
| cprov | Hobbsee: dunno, curiosity ? | 13:37 |
| jamesh | what email should I send the details to? | 13:37 |
| jelmer | jamesh: jelmer@samba.org | 13:37 |
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| Hobbsee | cprov: depends what it is. if it's mostly a copy of a wiki page, then i can read that | 13:38 |
| Hobbsee | i may be at the friday one, if there's something pretty special in it | 13:38 |
| Hobbsee | it's fairly evil in local time | 13:38 |
| Hobbsee | as for the monday, i'll be on VAC. | 13:38 |
| Hobbsee | <gasp> | 13:39 |
| Hobbsee | cprov-afk: i...um....er....now, i guess it goes without saying that you *are* going to fix that chroot problem bug, if indeed it does affect all new ppa'ers, before you try to get more people using PPA? :) | 13:41 |
| cprov-afk | Hobbsee: don't get stuck on details, that bug will get fixed, independently of the number of people using PPAs. Did you file the bug, btw ? | 13:46 |
| jamesh | jelmer: sent. | 13:47 |
| jelmer | thanks | 13:47 |
| Hobbsee | cprov-afk: i haven't done so yet | 13:47 |
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| jamesh | jelmer: if you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask | 13:48 |
| Hobbsee | cprov: ah, good. if you give it back hours later, it apperas to work | 14:03 |
| cprov | Hobbsee: yes, if you wait the PPA to be published the first time (<= 20 minutes after the upload) and 'retry' the build it will be fine. | 14:05 |
| Hobbsee | cprov: that's even though the binaries are showing on the main page? | 14:06 |
| Hobbsee | er, *sources* are showing on the main page? | 14:06 |
| cprov | Hobbsee: when the source is presented as 'published'. | 14:07 |
| Hobbsee | cprov: blink | 14:07 |
| Hobbsee | cprov: so, since when does publishing take so long? | 14:08 |
| Hobbsee | like, 10 hours? | 14:08 |
| jelmer | jamesh: thanks, will do | 14:10 |
| ubotu | New bug: #190930 in soyuz "builds from new PPAs fail due to chrootwait" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190930 | 14:11 |
| cprov | Hobbsee: it doesn't, sources will get published within 20 minutes, unless the scripts were not running. | 14:11 |
| Hobbsee | cprov: so the time listed on the ppa page is wrong (x hours ago?) | 14:11 |
| Hobbsee | and so why did it fail when i gave it back, even though i'm fairly sure the source was listed as publisehd at the time? | 14:12 |
| Hobbsee | or were the scripts not running today? | 14:12 |
| cprov | Hobbsee: PPA url | 14:13 |
| cprov | ? | 14:13 |
| Hobbsee | cprov: it's in the bug | 14:13 |
| elmo | Hobbsee: I forgot to re-enable cron after the LP downtime; it's probably that | 14:13 |
| * Hobbsee points ~8 lines up | 14:13 | |
| Hobbsee | elmo: ahhhh, right. OK then :) | 14:13 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #190945 in launchpad "Join/leave mailing list from team page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190945 | 15:06 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #190951 in launchpad "Allow team admins to propose their teams as members of another team" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190951 | 15:21 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #190953 in launchpad "Simplify archive link on team page" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190953 | 15:25 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #190970 in soyuz "Filter PPA by series" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190970 | 16:24 |
| ubotu | New bug: #190972 in launchpad "Once a day email about pending mailing lists" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190972 | 16:24 |
| ubotu | New bug: #190974 in launchpad "Rename mailing-list-beta-testers after the feature is released" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190974 | 16:24 |
| ubotu | New bug: #190984 in soyuz "PPA page loads very slowly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190984 | 16:40 |
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| goobsoft | In python programs, are absolute paths to images usually hard coded into the source? | 19:18 |
| kiko | rarely in good python programs | 19:19 |
| LarstiQ | it's bad practice in any program | 19:19 |
| goobsoft | I come from windows where you could do relative paths like images/my.png, but in debian, the programs are usually not all self contained in one folder. How is this done where the program is in a completely separate directory from the images? | 19:20 |
| goobsoft | Also in windows, it's assumed that the shortcut can start the program with a current working directory of the installation root.. but that's not the case in debian. | 19:22 |
| hexmode | goobsoft: often there is some sort of configuration file that gives the locations | 19:40 |
| hexmode | and/or paths are set up at compile time | 19:40 |
| hexmode | (e.g. configure) | 19:40 |
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| goobsoft | ok thanks hex | 19:45 |
| goobsoft | I gotta run | 19:45 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #191111 in launchpad "no way to list related teams/lists" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191111 | 23:20 |
| soren | cprov: ping? | 23:22 |
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