[09:41] <asac> bug 190856 , bug 190845 & bug 190675
[09:42] <ubotu> Bug 190856 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/190856 is private
[09:42] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 190845 in seamonkey "seamonkey has no Help > Report Problem in Help Menu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190845
[09:42] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 190675 in firefox "firefox crashes when downloading or uploading attachments" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190675
[09:58] <asac> Ubulette: with new nss firefox 2 fails to build :/
[10:08] <[reed]> asac: what error?
[10:09] <asac> i don't have it anymore. a symbol is missing
[10:09] <asac> i will try a bit later again and let you know :)
[10:10] <asac> [reed]: is that considered a bug for nss?
[10:10] <asac> ( i thought that nss has strong abi/api rules)
[10:10] <[reed]> depends on the error and the fact that you all are trying to use an unreleased version of NSS with something as old as Firefox 2 :p
[10:13] <asac> yeah ... if i can confirm that its not packaging related i will ask kaie
[10:16] <armin76> asac: old news
[10:16] <armin76> asac: http://patches.ubuntu.com/by-release/extracted/ubuntu/s/seamonkey/1.1.7+nobinonly-0ubuntu2/11_bz399589_fix_missing_symbol_with_new_nss.patch
[10:17] <asac> mozilla bug 399589
[10:17] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 399589 in Security: PSM "PSM + tip of NSS, error ‘SECAlgorithmIDTemplate’ not declared" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=399589
[10:17] <armin76> Ubulette: nope, i haven't seen anything like that, in fact i don't use ff3 :P
[10:18] <armin76> Ubulette: any page i could check that?
[11:46] <armin76> Ubulette: with beta2 there isn't a button either
[11:47] <armin76> so probably a feature :P
[11:47] <armin76> http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/its-an-attack.html
[11:52] <cheguevara> http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1im8.png
[11:52] <cheguevara> how nice to see all your browsers pass :P
[12:14] <asac> cheguevara: the image looks squashed
[12:14] <asac> which test url is it?
[12:15] <cheguevara> http://www.webstandards.org/files/acid2/test.html#top
[12:17] <asac> yeah ffox 2 fails though
[12:18] <cheguevara> yep
[14:17] <asac> ok lunch
[14:37] <armin76> mozilla bug 15322
[14:37] <armin76> mozilla bug 172818
[14:37] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 15322 in XP Apps: GUI Features "Ability to rearrange toolbars (by drag and drop)" [Enhancement,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15322
[14:38] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 172818 in Toolbars and Toolbar Customization "Allow movement of toolbars (using visible grippies)" [Enhancement,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172818
[14:38] <armin76> asac: fix :P
[15:07] <asac> you rather mean "implement" ... its not a bug/regression ;)
[15:31] <armin76> asac: implement! :P
[17:08] <shirish> asac: you up buddy?
[17:11] <asac> shirish: yes
[17:11] <asac> shirish: i asked you about the extensions :)
[17:12] <shirish> asac: right, I disabled all the extensions, and still while I try to upload it fails.
[17:12] <shirish> means ff crashes.
[17:12] <shirish> but there is also another possibility
[17:12] <asac> did you tell me what those extensions are?
[17:13] <asac> e.g. post the install.rdf of them?
[17:13] <asac> shirish: maybe also try with a fresh profile
[17:13] <shirish> asac: what do you mean post the install.rdf of them?
[17:13] <asac> yes, like what i asked in the bug
[17:14] <shirish> asac: there is also another possibility, I came to know I also have ubufox installed, perhaps that might also have something to do with it, what do you think?
[17:15] <shirish> asac: I can copy & paste the install.rdf files if that's ok with u? What do you say?
[17:15] <shirish> alongwith the paths that u have given, I am also updating ff2.0.x series as we speak.
[17:15] <shirish> asac: will also try a fresh profile, just to see if that works out in any way.
[17:17] <shirish> asac: the first extension is Seamonkey, the second is Adblock Plus.
[17:17] <shirish> asac: of course will be putting up all this info. on the bug as well, so there is a history there as well.
[17:22] <shirish> sorry, the first extension is downthemall, a download manager.
[17:28] <asac> shirish: please attach to bug
[17:28] <asac> shirish: the ones with the path i named in the bug
[17:29] <shirish> asac: I couldn't attach it to the bug, because ff crashes, I instead copied & pasted the contents to the bug itself bug 190856
[17:30] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 190856 in firefox "firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190856
[17:30] <shirish> asac: sorry again :(
[17:33] <shirish> asac: ubufox is a ubuntu-only thing, is it?
[17:35] <asac> yes
[17:35] <asac> copy&paste is ok
[17:35] <asac> please try a clean profile too
[17:36] <shirish> sure would do.
[17:36] <asac> shirish: what do you mean with "This is seamonkey"
[17:36] <asac> i don't understand that
[17:39] <shirish> asac: disregard the bit about seamonkey, I was reading the install.rdf, I misunderstood something.
[17:41] <asac> try the clean profile (how i described in bug) first
[17:41] <asac> if that fixes it we at least know the direction to look closer
[17:42] <asac> if it doesn't we know its the system files that cause this
[17:42] <asac> shirish: ^^^^
[17:44] <shirish> asac: working on it, have a clean profile :)
[17:52] <shirish> asac: how do I recursively mv stuff from my .mozilla to another directory?
[17:53] <asac> shirish: just mv $HOME/.mozilla $HOME/.mozilla.backup1
[17:53] <asac> then start ffox again
[17:56] <shirish> done, doing the rest.
[18:00] <shirish> asac: that also didn't work out, it also crashed.
[18:00] <shirish> asac: although this time, I tried to just upload & then tried cancelling that.
[18:00] <asac> well ... you most likely still have a contaminated system
[18:00] <asac> hard to say
[18:01] <asac> (in worst case hardware error) ... if upload really crashes i would have seen more reports so far
[18:01] <shirish> asac: true, I don't know about contaminated systems but what you can say could be true.
[18:03] <asac> shirish: contaminated: e.g. you installed some lib or other thing once on your system that isn't plain ubuntu
[18:03] <asac> e.g. left over from some 3rd party install et al
[18:03] <asac> like the ftp archive ... you never know what standards those packagers follow
[18:03] <asac> for instance installing ubuntuzilla is the worst you could ever do :)
[18:04] <asac> if i ever meat the author of that package i will get a shotgun :)
[18:05] <asac> but most likely would just shoot in the air as i am not the kind of person that can shoot anyone :)
[18:05] <shirish> ah, right, that is entirely possible.
[18:05] <shirish> also uninstalled the ubufox extensions, let's try this the last time. If nothing works then I am doomed :(
[18:06] <asac> shirish: ubufox is unlikely to cause this
[18:06] <asac> shirish: you can attach a strace -f firefox &> /tmp/strace.log to the bug
[18:06] <asac> (use konqueror to do that if no gecko browser works for you)
[18:06] <asac> (does ffox 3 work)?
[18:06] <shirish> asac: I know but just to make sure that isn't the cause the of it
[18:07] <shirish> ff3 also has the same bug as well as couple of others mozilla/gecko-based browsers.
[18:08] <asac> shirish: attach the strace ... deinstall all themes (which can cause wierd issues as well)
[18:09] <shirish> asac: will do, btw where are themes located on ff2?
[18:09] <asac> shirish: well if you have  fresh profile you shouldn't have any themes now
[18:10] <asac> check the Tools -> Addons dialog
[18:10] <asac> if there is anything still left
[18:10] <asac> maybe try to uninstall vlc plugin as well
[18:10] <shirish> asac: there are 3 themes even in the fresh profile
[18:12] <shirish> firefox (default theme) , gnome theme 0.5, Human theme 0.5 & Tangerine theme 0.5 , all of them have uninstall greyed out.
[18:12] <shirish> asac: perhaps they are the culprit.
[18:13] <asac> let me see
[18:13] <asac> yes they are globally installed
[18:13] <asac> try to uninstall them (you should have packages for them)
[18:15] <shirish> asac: I think this is most probably it, i   firefox-themes-ubuntu  Firefox themes matching the Ubuntu desktop look
[18:15] <asac> shirish: that one usually should be good
[18:15] <asac> there should be others
[18:16] <asac> (e.g. tango)
[18:16] <asac> shirish: what does  MR Tech Local Install (version: 5.3.2.6)  do?
[18:16] <asac> shirish: try to remove gnome and tangerine theme
[18:17] <shirish> asac: will do, MR Tech Local install is basically a package to use outdated plugins, plugins which have not been updated for a long time, kinda like a patch.
[18:18] <asac> sounds scary .... and nothing a user wants to install
[18:18] <shirish> http://www.mrtech.com/extensions/local_install/
[18:19] <shirish> it does no. of things as u can see.
[18:22] <shirish> damn, i did something stupid & all my profile is gone :(
[18:24] <asac> shirish: you moved it away
[18:24] <shirish> asac: that's why I usually copy the profiles, this time I didn't do & in moving mv it got overwritten.
[18:31] <shirish> asac: not your fault, all mine, I was just stupid.
[18:32] <asac> sorry for that
[18:32] <asac> i didn't tell anything harmful ;)
[18:32] <asac> but well ... every one working with computers lost important data multipe times and survived ;)
[18:33] <shirish> asac: I know, its just mv doesn't give a warning when you copy stuff over that, I didn't realize that.
[18:33] <asac> at some points you'll find that creating incremental backups of your important folders is the only way to reduce the chance to wipe something to a safe probabiliy
[18:33] <asac> you can also use the file manager (nautilus) if you feel more secure
[18:34] <asac> command line is pretty efficient, but can be quite destructing if you are tired or something
[18:34] <shirish> true
[18:38] <shirish> aha, I do still have ff3 & I have bookmarks synchronizer, so lots of things can still be salvaged.
[18:38] <shirish> so not much harm done.
[18:39] <shirish> :)
[18:43] <shirish> asac: tangerine-icon-theme is a dependancy of ubuntu-desktop
[18:44] <asac> ok
[18:44]  * asac wonders why
[18:44] <asac> is the human theme still a dependency aswell?
[18:44] <shirish> I have no idea
[18:45] <shirish> human-theme is also a dependancy of ubuntu-desktop as well as edubuntu-artwork and ubuntu-artwork as well.
[18:46] <asac> k
[18:47] <shirish> asac: the 4 themes are still there, firefox-default, gnome 0.5, human-theme as well as tangerine-theme
[18:49] <Ubulette> hi
[18:51] <shirish> Ubulette: hi
[18:51] <shirish> asac: got the strace & it crashed without any extensions, just with the themes, I can uninstall the themes if you really want.
[18:53] <Ubulette> what ?
[18:55] <shirish> Ubulette: just said hi, asac is helping me to work out that bug which I had filed a day before, which I also put up on the mailing list.
[18:55] <Ubulette> crash doing what ?
[18:56] <asac> crash during upload
[18:56] <asac> shirish: please figure out which theme it is
[18:57] <Ubulette> [Sun 15:08] <Ubulette> mozilla bug 257427
[18:57] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 257427 in XP Toolkit/Widgets "opening filepicker without first appending a filter crashes" [Critical,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=257427
[18:57] <asac> note that in the bug ... attach the strace and let me know :)
[18:57] <Ubulette> like this one ?
[18:57] <asac> Ubulette: yeah ... but it happens during upload afaict for now
[18:57] <Ubulette> (fixed in trunk yesterday)
[18:59] <Ubulette> the stack trace is not usable in the bug so it's difficult to guess
[19:00] <asac> my bet is that its a contaminated system (by some 3rd party installs done in the past) ... or last chance its a theme
[19:00] <asac> there were themes in the past that crashes ffox
[19:00] <shirish> dunno how long this is going to take or whether it will be a successful upload or not, that's 23 MB of strace.log
[19:01] <shirish> wow, how can it be, it shows 22 MB of strace.log attached
[19:02] <asac> :)
[19:03] <shirish> asac: I just have no idea, I hope text isn't garbled when you are downloading stuff.
[19:04] <shirish> my upload speeds are usually capped at 8-10 kbps or at the most 15 kbps.
[19:04] <shirish> Anyway best of luck to you if you do manage to crack that one.
[19:06] <shirish> damn, ff3.0 was also using the same profile, shouldn't this be using a seperate profile ?
[19:09] <Ubulette> same profile as ff2 ? which ff3 is that ? looks like b3rc2~fta1....
[19:12] <shirish> ff3 3.0~b3~cvs20080101t1000+nobinonly-0ubuntu1
[19:13] <shirish> asac: this is strange, ff2 shows 4 themes at startup, while ff3 shows only 1.
[19:15] <asac> shirish: can't you disable them?
[19:16] <asac> shirish: does downgrading help?
[19:16] <shirish> asac: no I can't there is no way to disable them. its greyed out.
[19:16] <shirish> asac: downgrading to what, I just upgraded them 2.0.12, the latest release.
[19:17] <asac> ok but it happened with previous too?
[19:18] <shirish> asac: yes it happened with 2.0.10 all this time, I just upgraded to 2.0.12 & let's see what's in store here.
[19:26] <asac> ok
[19:30] <shirish> asac: at this point in time, its downloading file without an issue, although the assertion is still there on the CLI.
[19:31] <shirish> asac: once I have made a profile with profilemanager then do I need to give firefox-profilemanager each time, I have made profiles of both at 2 different places so one can't touch the other.
[19:32] <asac> which assertion?
[19:37] <armin76> implement!
[19:37] <armin76> Ubulette: you implement!
[19:37] <jcastro> Ubulette: asac: got a mail from upstream about a bug, I just fwd'ed it to you guys.
[19:43] <asac> jcastro: yeah ... thanks. already got it though:)
[19:44] <asac> better safe than sorry ;)
[19:44] <jcastro> asac: ok cool, so what do I tell them, that you're applying it already?
[19:47] <Ubulette> jcastro, I didn't get anything (so far)
[19:48] <jcastro> Ubulette: I think I have the wrong email for you
[19:48] <Ubulette> please use the one in my LP profile
[19:49] <jcastro> k
[19:49] <Ubulette> maybe you're in my greylist then
[19:50] <jcastro> you don't have a public address published on lp
[19:51] <shirish> asac: once I have made a profile with profilemanager then do I need to give firefox-profilemanager each time, I have made profiles of both at 2 different places so one can't touch the other ?
[19:51] <Ubulette> jcastro, I don't ? I thought anyone logged in could see all emails
[19:52] <shirish> asac: the assertion such as (gecko:6663): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
[19:52] <Ubulette> confirmed, you're stuck in my greylist for a few more minutes
[19:52] <jcastro> Ubulette: no worries, looks like asac is tracking it anyway
[19:53] <Ubulette> ok
[19:54] <shirish> Ubulette: can u tell me the question I asked asac ?
[19:54] <shirish> that once I have made a profile with profilemanager then do I need to give firefox-profilemanager each time, I have made profiles of both at 2 different places so one can't touch the other ?
[19:55] <shirish> or do I have to do firefox -profilemanager & firefox-3.0 -profilemanager each time so they don't mix up stuff?
[19:56] <Ubulette> with  3.0~b3~cvs20080101t1000, ff3 is still using ~/.mozilla/firefox-3.0 while ff2 uses ~/.mozilla/firefox so you should not need the profile manager
[19:56] <Ubulette> that will change with 3.0~b3
[19:56] <shirish> Also I have job for both of u when u have free time Bug 191015
[19:56] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 191015 in amaya "Sync Amaya 9.55 (universe) with Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191015
[19:57] <shirish> Ubulette: with 3.0~b3 it would stop using ~/.mozilla/firefox-3.0 or what?
[19:59] <Ubulette> yep, asac removed the appname patch i've made a long time ago creating ~/.mozilla/firefox-3.0 so it will use ~/.mozilla/firefox, like ff2. That means ff2 will disappear soon
[19:59] <Ubulette> s/will/should/
[20:00] <Ubulette> I don't mind myself, i've already removed ff2 from all my boxes
[20:00] <shirish> right
[20:01] <shirish> I use both alternatively, especially with the issues which we have been having. Anyways doesn't matter now, would have to think about that when we hit b3 & the .deb comes here.
[20:02] <shirish> I wish there was a password & URL exporter site too like foxmarks for bookmarks, would make things so easy
[21:51] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/~asac/+archive/+builds?build_text=gcj&build_state=all
[22:04] <Ubulette> asac, did you produce any patches for miro ?
[23:01] <Ubulette> asac, i wonder if the bad wrapping in miro's left pane is not caused by your tooltip patch in xul1.9...
[23:17] <asac> Ubulette: how did you get miro to build?
[23:18] <Ubulette> haven't retried since last time. I'm still with r6000
[23:19] <asac> 1st .. it just doesn't work with how the do it now (e.g. need to mv platform platformxx)
[23:19] <asac> most likely they don't use setup.py to build their dev tree
[23:20] <asac> 2nd they have changed startup order ... i have to tackle that next
[23:20] <Ubulette> ok, i'll move my branch to mt, feel free to push there :)
[23:20] <asac> yeah
[23:21] <asac> but miro is not high prio for me atm :)
[23:21] <asac> though its tempting to do it right and reminds me that there is still work left for python
[23:22] <asac> i think thu is feature freeze :(
[23:22] <asac> :)
[23:23] <Ubulette> people are complaining about the left pane wrapping in hardy too
[23:23] <asac> bug?
[23:23] <Ubulette> donno, they didn't say. http://geekport.com/files/mirocrop.png
[23:24] <asac> they need to file a bug ... i mean its hard enough to look at bugs. searching the web for arbitrary claims is just cumbersome ;)
[23:25] <Ubulette> i know that. I'll tell them next time
[23:25] <asac> cool
[23:25] <asac> if you can reproduce this with hardy verisno you can even file on their behalf