[02:30] <vorian> evening :)
[02:30] <nixternal> howdy
[02:30] <Jucato> A
[02:30] <Jucato> er.. I meant "ey"
[02:30] <vorian> arr
[02:31] <Jucato> :)
[02:31] <vorian> how do you set directories for games?
[02:31] <vorian> like a new kde4 game I stumbled upon :)
[02:32] <vorian> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55664/
[02:35] <nixternal> vorian: dep on libkdegames-dev-kde4?
[02:36] <vorian> oh
[02:36] <vorian> lemme check that
[02:36] <vorian> I just did libkdegames-dev
[02:36] <nixternal> hrmm
[02:36] <nixternal> LibKDEGamesConfig.cmake is not found anywhere
[02:36]  * nixternal wonders if that is built on the 4.1 framework?
[02:37] <nixternal> hrmm, I cannot find that file anywhere
[02:38] <vorian> :(
[02:38] <vorian> I am quite proud of my copyright file too
[02:38] <nixternal> hehe
[02:38] <nixternal> w00t
[02:39] <vorian> I am rebuilding with the libkdegames-dev-kde4
[02:39] <nixternal> hrmm
[02:39] <vorian> we'll see how it goes
[02:39] <nixternal> FindLibKDEGames.cmake
[02:39] <nixternal> something tells me he needs to fix his CMakeLists.txt perhaps
[02:40] <vorian> kdiamond is the source
[02:40] <nixternal> ahh, kdiamond..just seen that on kde-apps
[02:40] <vorian> http://kdiamond.ages-skripte.org/
[02:41] <vorian> dude!
[02:42] <vorian> nixternal: that worked
[02:42] <vorian> kick arse
[02:42] <nixternal> groovy
[02:43] <vorian> uploading to revuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[02:43] <vorian> :)
[02:43] <nixternal> which is funny, because the file it is looking for isn't real :)
[02:43] <vorian> i got a new tv this weekend
[02:43] <nixternal> I didn't :(
[02:43] <vorian> I am in heaven
[02:43] <vorian> 50
[02:43] <vorian> plasma
[02:43] <vorian> I though my wife was going to kill me
[02:45] <nixternal> damn
[02:45] <nixternal> hahahaha
[02:45] <nixternal> she should of
[02:48] <vorian> hehe
[02:49] <vorian> it's funny because she cant stop playing with it
[02:50] <nixternal> I need a new TV myself
[02:50] <nixternal> maybe one of these days
[02:56] <jcastro> hi guys
[02:56] <vorian> hey jcastro
[02:56] <nosrednaekim> hey jcastro
[02:57] <jcastro> hey so I missed the kubuntu meeting this saturday (I usually log), can someone point me to irc log or a summary?
[02:58] <nixternal> !logs
[02:58] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - Logs for LoCo channels are at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ - See also « /msg ubotu ircstats »
[02:58] <nixternal> :p
[02:58] <jcastro> nixternal: ta
[02:58] <nixternal> I missed it to, but they highlighted me enough to remind me to scroll up on Saturday to see what I missed
[02:59] <nixternal> pretty much Riddell spilt his guts on what he would like to focus on at UDS, 2 new members
[02:59]  * nixternal hopes that Kevin can stop by Benton Harbor the weekend of Penguicon and pick me up too
[03:00] <nixternal> is it me, or is Konqi 4.0.1 worse than 4.0.0?
[03:00] <nixternal> it seems to crash a heck of a lot more now
[03:00] <nixternal> but at least I can view YouTube now
[03:01] <hads> I don't see that here.
[03:01] <jcastro> nixternal: can you help me out, what's Jussi Kekkonan's nick?
[03:01] <nixternal> Jucato:
[03:01] <nixternal> err
[03:01] <nixternal> jussi01 <<-
[03:01] <jcastro> ah, ok, thanks
[03:01] <nixternal> no problemo
[03:01] <jcastro> nixternal: any idea what time zone he's in?
[03:01] <nixternal> groovy, I get a Developer Week break!
[03:02] <jcastro> I would like to let him know if he needs help for anything to ping me
[03:02] <nixternal> can't say that I do
[03:02] <jcastro> nixternal: thanks, I'll pm/email him
[03:03] <vorian> jcastro: you are one nice dude :)
[03:03] <jcastro> vorian: it's a character flaw. :p
[03:03] <vorian> haha
[03:04] <nixternal> vorian: don't fall for it!
[03:04] <jcastro> nixternal: also, let me know about penguicon resources you might need.
[03:04] <vorian> ha!
[03:04] <nixternal> beer!
[03:04] <nixternal> I will be in Benton Harbor the week leading up to it, so either Kevin can come through and pick me up or I will have to drive up there on my own
[03:04] <jcastro> nixternal: not so much, I just wanted to let you know that wolfger should be on your "get on the kubuntu train" list.
[03:04] <nixternal> he already is
[03:05] <jcastro> good, he's hardcore, if he's not a kubuntu motu by the end of the year then we both suck.
[03:05] <nixternal> umm
[03:05] <nixternal> end of the year?
[03:05] <nixternal> 6 months top!
[03:05] <nixternal> summer time, if he isn't a MOTU come the end of summer, then he sucks as much as we do :p
[03:06] <jcastro> nixternal: I am playing it safe. Mike is good people, if you want to show up and finish him up for MOTU then beers are on me.
[03:06] <nixternal> oh, I am down for that then!
[03:06] <nixternal> make Canonical pay for my drunkness :)
[03:06] <nixternal> haha, I would love to see the expense report on that one
[03:07] <vorian> that's bribery!
[03:07]  * vorian hides
[03:07] <nixternal> $250 - Pub ("nixternal's pay for helping wolfger become motu, damn he drinks a lot")
[03:07] <jcastro> heh, you think I have a trump card, the funds come out of my own pocket. :p
[03:07] <nixternal> gotta learn how to play cards then :)
[03:07] <jcastro> heh
[03:07] <vorian> awesome!
[03:08] <vorian> when did they put changelogs in PPA?
[03:08] <nixternal> couldn't tell ya, haven't looked at my PPA in a while
[03:08] <jcastro> vorian: you're not off the hook, we expect a good many possible motu's from ohio.
[03:08] <vorian> jcastro: I'm hardly working at it
[03:08] <vorian> err
[03:08] <jcastro> vorian: work harder.
[03:08] <vorian> I mean I'm hard at work on it :)
[03:09] <jcastro> heh
[03:09]  * nosrednaekim never wants to be a MOTU
[03:09] <nixternal> sure you do!
[03:09] <nixternal> everyone wants to be a MOTU!
[03:09] <jcastro> nosrednaekim: why not?
[03:09] <nixternal> I want to be a core-dev some day
[03:09] <vorian> pfft
[03:09] <nixternal> nosrednaekim: don't be like me and wait 2 years to finally go for MOTU though
[03:09] <nosrednaekim> becuase, packing is no fun...
[03:10] <nixternal> and never get caught in the "documentation" trap :)
[03:10] <nixternal> once you fall in that documentation trap, and there are just 3 of you tops, man it never stops
[03:10] <nixternal> that goes for Kubuntu and KDE :/
[03:12] <nixternal> so, how many times can I listen to this Amy Winehouse album today?
[03:12] <jcastro> nixternal: I have to go and hit the beer store before it closes, who's the -chi guy for penguicon?
[03:12] <jcastro> I need to send some things to him
[03:13] <jcastro> nixternal: vorian: also, you guys in for super-midwest packaging jam and bug jams?
[03:13] <jcastro> I hear we have an ubuntu room for PC, free beer, etc. etc.
[03:13] <nixternal> I guess that would be Eddie Martinez, aka posingaspopular or eddieftw
[03:13] <nixternal> jcastro: you know I am down
[03:13] <jcastro> so surely you guys can help us our with filling up our ubuntu talks?
[03:13] <vorian> hell ya!
[03:13] <nixternal> most definitely
[03:13] <jcastro> nixternal: ah, posingaspopular, I'll ping him
[03:13] <vorian> sure
[03:13] <nixternal> I have a lot of community, Kubuntu, and KDE lovin' to share :)
[03:14] <nixternal> speaking of which, I need to start preparing my talk for Flourish too
[03:14] <nosrednaekim> if you pay for my trip to where ever this is... sure
[03:14] <Hobbsee> talks talks talks.
[03:14] <nixternal> hehe
[03:14] <nixternal> Hobbsee: talks are fun!
[03:14] <Hobbsee> pity it's in the wrong timezone
[03:14] <jcastro> nixternal: can you do me a favor, if you want me to come can you mail me about it? jorge@ubuntu.com
[03:14] <jcastro> I can come, just need to be reminded
[03:14] <nixternal> will do, I will also make sure Kevin bugs you as well :)
[03:15] <jcastro> nixternal: I will bring the michigan crew with me
[03:15] <nixternal> Flourish is 2 weeks before Penguicon
[03:15] <vorian> why isn't this showing up?
[03:15] <vorian> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=kdiamond-kde4
[03:15] <nixternal> give it a few minute
[03:15] <nixternal> s
[03:15] <nixternal> revu can be a slow poke
[03:15] <vorian> arrg
[03:16] <nixternal> I am waiting for another app to update on revu so I can upload it
[03:18] <Hobbsee> does it need fixing?
[03:19] <vorian> revu or my package :)
[03:20] <Hobbsee> revu
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> packaging broke my app..... I just spent an hour fixing it....
[03:20] <nixternal> heh
[03:20] <vorian> it looks like other packages are getting directories
[03:20] <vorian> my first upload was without an orig.tar.gz
[03:21] <vorian> maybe that broke it
[03:21] <nixternal> hrmm, I thought dput would bug out if yu didn't have an orig.tar.gz
[03:21] <vorian> Uploading to revu (via ftp to revu.tauware.de):
[03:21] <vorian>   kdiamond-kde4_0.1-0ubuntu1.dsc: done.
[03:21] <vorian>   kdiamond-kde4_0.1-0ubuntu1.tar.gz: done.
[03:21] <vorian>   kdiamond-kde4_0.1-0ubuntu1_source.changes: done.
[03:21] <vorian> Successfully uploaded packages.
[03:22] <vorian> 'yu' that's cute
[03:23] <nixternal> glad you thought so :p
[03:24] <vorian> nixternal: if you want a sneak peek http://ppa.launchpad.net/vorian/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdiamond-kde4/
[03:24] <vorian> :P
[03:24] <ScottK> So it's been a while since I booked Feisty.  Only 157 updates.
[03:24] <nixternal> ouch
[03:25] <ScottK> booked/booted anyway.
[03:25] <nixternal> then again, i will admit that many updates in *buntu are way quicker than half of those updates in Windows
[03:25] <ScottK> Unfortunately one of the is OOO.
[03:25] <ScottK> But even with that, I'm up to 60 already
[03:26] <nixternal> ya, I hate seeing an OO.o update myself...reminds me of a service pack for windows
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> meh..... who else thinks mac OS is ugly...
[03:26]  * nixternal does
[03:26] <nixternal> err
[03:26]  * nixternal doesn't
[03:26] <nixternal> it isn't ugly, it is just stupid
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> just looking at a screen shot here, and the folders look very.... gnomish...
[03:27] <nixternal> you mean gnome looks very os xish
[03:27]  * txwikinger is reminded at Atari
[03:28]  * Jucato is reminded of coreymon...
[03:28] <vorian> nixternal: can you nuke that package so I can re-upload it?
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> yeah,well, same thing... they are both ugly (default GNOME, human actually looks decent)
[03:28] <nixternal> vorian: just reupload
[03:28] <txwikinger> Didn't Atari have a nuke when it would crash?
[03:28] <nixternal> it will overwrite whats there anyways
[03:28] <nixternal> just rm *.upload
[03:29] <vorian> werd
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> later guys...
[03:36] <vorian> hmm
[03:36] <vorian> there is something wrong
[03:37] <vorian> i got the email saying it was accepted, yet it's not found in revu
[03:40] <Hobbsee> did you upload it to ppa?
[03:43] <vorian> Hobbsee: yes
[03:43] <vorian> my ppa at least
[03:43] <Hobbsee> well, that's why it's not on revu yet, isn't it...
[03:44] <vorian> um,
[03:44] <vorian> I uploaded to both
[03:45] <ScottK> Hobbsee: Thinking about the mail about the PPA today that you and I replied to, I'm considering a mail to ubuntu-devel subject PPAs considered harmful to Ubuntu brand identity.
[03:46] <Hobbsee> ScottK: it'll certainly promote discussion.  CC LP users
[03:46]  * ScottK isn't subscribed to LP users.  It'd just get moderated.
[03:46] <Hobbsee> ScottK: i can poke matt revell to let it thru
[03:47] <ScottK> Maybe if I'm not to tired after I get done with clamav security patches.
[07:33] <jussi01> nixternal: jcastro Im Jussi Schultink, Jussi Kekkonen is Tm_T
[07:33]  * Jucato scrolls up
[07:34] <Jucato> oh hahah! I did't even notice that :)
[07:34] <jussi01> :)
[07:34] <Jucato> jussi01: so now, not only are you mistaken for me (and vice versa), but also with Tm_T :)
[07:35] <jussi01> Jucato: I wonde who Ill get next :P
[07:35] <Jucato> jussi01: make sure you don't get Hobbsee... or you'll be sorry :)
[07:35] <jussi01> LOL
[07:35]  * jussi01 hugs Hobbsee 
[07:35]  * Hobbsee comes stalking around
[07:36] <jussi01> hello there Hobbsee :)
[07:36] <Jucato> Hobbsee!!!!
[07:36] <Hobbsee> hiya!
[07:36]  * Hobbsee shines her red eyes around
[07:36] <Jucato> red.... eyes...??
[07:36]  * Jucato gets the eyedrops...
[07:36] <Jucato> are they itchy?
[07:36] <jussi01> Hobbsee: lack of sleep?
[07:36] <Jucato> no?
[07:36] <jussi01> too much alchol?
[07:37] <jussi01> :P
[07:37]  * Jucato gets the wooden stake and the revolver with silver bullets
[07:37]  * jussi01 warns Jucato to watch out for the pointy stick of doom
[07:37] <Hobbsee> evilness
[07:37] <Jucato> bwahah :)
[07:37] <Hobbsee> clearly you arent' a harry potter fan!
[07:37] <jussi01> Hobbsee: nope
[07:37] <Jucato> I am/was/but forgot details
[07:38] <Hobbsee> you suck.
[07:38] <jussi01> LOL
[07:38] <Jucato> speaking of which... my sister hasn't yet returned my HP books which she gave me for my birthdays, which she then borrowed, which she hasn't returned yet,
[07:39] <Jucato> gah!! she has the ones that matter!! books 5 and 7
[07:40] <Hobbsee> hah
[07:40] <Hobbsee> http://eikke.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/wtfm.jpg
[07:40]  * jussi01 wonders how often -devel channels look like this...LOL
[07:40] <Hobbsee> this one/  often
[07:41] <Jucato> jussi01: look like what?
[07:41] <jussi01> Hobbsee: love the cartoon
[07:41] <Hobbsee> yeah :)
[07:41] <Jucato> ah look like that?
[07:41] <Hobbsee> my email's gonna implode by the time i get back :(
[07:42] <Jucato> get back from?
[07:42] <Jucato> oooh!!! Hobbsee's red eyes: http://photos.streamphoto.ru/5/f/3/3c7f890532acb9c9378372de22c3b3f5.jpg :D
[07:42] <Hobbsee> adelaide
[07:43] <Hobbsee> haha
[07:44] <jussi01> Jucato: nice one
[08:24] <wolfger> My spidey sense is tingling... I sense nixternal and jcastro plotting about me...
[09:12] <_StefanS_> kwwii: ping?
[09:14] <doc__> hi there
[10:08] <kwwii> _StefanS_: pong
[10:09] <kwwii> _StefanS_: nope, I didn't get around to the buttons...been working on another project for work
[10:09] <_StefanS_> kwwii: ah ok, can you make it before thursday?
[10:09] <_StefanS_> kwwii: I would really like to get them in before ff
[10:10] <kwwii> _StefanS_: not sure...it depends on how long this other stuff takes
[10:11] <kwwii> _StefanS_: send me an email with an explanation of exactly what you want
[10:11] <_StefanS_> kwwii: ok, maybe i can get some help then.. maybe nuno can do it?
[10:16] <kwwii> _StefanS_: I am sure he could do it if you can convince him ;-)
[10:16] <_StefanS_> kwwii: he already accepted :)
[10:17] <kwwii> hehe, cool
[10:32] <Tm_T> hmm?
[10:33] <Tm_T> jcastro: hi
[10:39] <Tm_T> jussi01: ping
[10:39] <jussi01> hehe, Daddy Tm_T  has arrived :D
[10:40] <jussi01> Tm_T: hi
[10:40] <Tm_T> idea what was it about?
[10:40] <xRaich[o]2x> !seen blueyed
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen blueyed - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:41] <jussi01> !seen | xRaich[o]2x
[10:41] <ubotu> xRaich[o]2x: The seen function has not been operational for a long time.  Use /msg seenserv seen nickname instead.
[10:41] <xRaich[o]2x> jussi01: Thanks :)
[10:41] <jussi01> Tm_T: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55702/
[10:41] <Tm_T> jussi01: thanks
[10:41]  * jussi01 feels good, everyone is saying thanks :D
[10:42] <Jucato> jussi01: thanks
[10:42] <jussi01> hehe
[10:42] <_StefanS_> kwwii: do you by any chance have the symbols inside the buttons somewhere?
[10:42] <_StefanS_> kwwii: else nuno has to make them by hand
[10:42] <Tm_T> jussi01: interesting, I wonder what did I do this time
[10:44] <jussi01> hahahha, Tm_T
[10:46] <Tm_T> jussi01: prolly something bad and illegal, so better to hide, see you kids later ->
[10:47] <jussi01> hehe
[12:55] <_StefanS_> kwwii: btw, it was okay with djmattricks to darken the wallpaper a bit if we like that
[12:55] <_StefanS_> kwwii: it might be a good idea since it outshines the icons a bit when in default (light) colors
[13:13] <kwwii> _StefanS_: cool, that shouldn't be too hard either
[13:23] <_StefanS_> kwwii: could you fix that part maybe ? nuno has created the buttons already
[13:28] <Tm_T> wow
[13:28] <Tm_T> I got my adsl back
[13:55] <kwwii> _StefanS_: yeah, I'll give it a whack later tonight
[13:55] <_StefanS_> kwwii: cool
[13:56] <_StefanS_> kwwii: you can see what he did here: http://enhance-it.dk/pics/
[13:57] <_StefanS_> Riddell: the new win deco icons ^
[13:57] <Tm_T> :o
[13:57] <kwwii> hrm, they are not transparent though
[13:57] <Tm_T> umm, who was our adept guy?
[13:57] <kwwii> so if you change your window deco color it will look funky
[13:57] <mornfall> What do you mean? : - )
[13:58] <kwwii> actually, they look like the ones from edgy :p
[13:58] <Tm_T> nnnnngh
[13:58] <Tm_T> why that shiny thing everywhere
[13:58] <_StefanS_> kwwii: already told him, he will correct it later on
[13:58]  * Tm_T hides
[13:58] <kwwii> _StefanS_: here is a quick gimp job making the wallpaper a bit darker: http://sinecera.de/darker1.png
[13:58] <_StefanS_> kwwii: better than nothing I think
[13:59] <kwwii> cool
[13:59] <_StefanS_> kwwii: looks quite good
[14:02] <_StefanS_> kwwii: did you saturate it?
[14:11] <kwwii> _StefanS_: actually, I desaturated it a bit :-)
[14:12] <_StefanS_> kwwii: oh ok
[14:12] <mornfall> Tm_T: Sup?
[14:20] <Tm_T> mornfall: hi :)
[14:20] <mornfall> Hi.
[14:21] <Tm_T> mornfall: something I can help you with or just wanted to remember me?
[14:21]  * Tm_T is bit lost atm
[14:22] <mornfall> Tm_T: You were asking about some adept guy.
[14:23] <Tm_T> aaah :))
[14:23] <Tm_T> mornfall: just wondered where is current "trunk"
[14:23] <Tm_T> and if there is something I can test etc
[14:24] <mornfall> Tm_T: http://anna.fi.muni.cz/~xrockai/adept-3/
[14:25] <Tm_T> danke
[14:25] <mornfall> That's darcs get
[14:25] <mhb> hey folks
[14:25] <Tonio_> hi there
[14:25] <mornfall> Tm_T: Also, https://launchpad.net/~me-mornfall/+archive
[14:26] <Tonio_> mornfall: I expect a first release of kdesudo-kde4 toonight, so that adept might eventually work :)
[14:30]  * ScottK likes the restart required swirly for the updater.
[14:34] <nosrednaekim> hey, Ubuntu Derivatives is having an open-week session, you want me to sign up myself to do a little presentation?
[14:34] <Tonio_> Riddell: I noticed that the kdesu binary was removed from kde4 packages ? only -dbg packages have it
[14:34] <Tonio_> Riddell: is that wanted purpose ?
[14:35] <Riddell> Tonio_: not that I know of
[14:35] <Riddell> nosrednaekim: presentation of what?
[14:36] <Tonio_> Riddell: okay so it looks like packaging issue
[14:36] <nosrednaekim> well, they just want what the derivative's goals are and a little bit about what makes it different.
[14:37] <Riddell> ]
[14:38] <Tonio_> Riddell: hum, I'm wrong, not any kde4 package has kdesu in it
[14:39] <Tonio_> Riddell: ho ! usr/lib/kde4/lib/kde4/libexec/kdesu
[14:39] <Tonio_> Riddell: that's the new path for soem binaries ?
[14:39] <Riddell> Tonio_: right, for binaries which aren't called by users
[14:39] <ScottK> Riddell: Would you please binary New gpsd 2.36-2 so I can get the rebuilds started?
[14:39] <Tonio_> Riddell: the problem is that "where kdesu" reports it is in /usr/bin
[14:40] <Tonio_> Riddell: isn't that the reson kdesu doesn't work on kde' ? /usr/bin is probably prior in the path to that path right ?
[14:40] <Riddell> I don't know, wouldn't have thought so
[14:41] <Riddell> ScottK: accepted
[14:41] <ScottK> Riddell: Thanks.
[14:42] <vorian> should we keep adding -kde4 to new kde4 packages
[14:42] <ScottK> BTW, I just upgraded gutsy -> hardy with apt-get distupgrade with no problems at all.
[14:42] <ScottK> Except I spelled it right when I did it.
[14:43] <ScottK> ACPI works again on this box.  Very nice.
[14:45] <Riddell> vorian: if there's an existing kde 3 package yes, otherwise I don't really mind
[14:45] <Riddell> vorian: any progress on marble?
[14:45] <vorian> Riddell: I plan on hammering that out today
[14:46] <vorian> Riddell: it's got some weird path permissions issues
[14:47] <sahin_w> Hi Devs? Have you seen gtk-kde4 package?
[14:47] <sahin_w> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/gtk-kde4?content=74689&PHPSESSID=1c3dbbc331c6c58d3d30e5383552e4c1
[14:47] <mhb> gtk-kde4?
[14:47] <mhb> what's that?
[14:47] <sahin_w> Yep.
[14:47] <mhb> is it the reimplementation of GTK using Qt libraries we all are waiting for?
[14:47] <sahin_w> Allows you to change GTK style in KDE 4 and change font of GTK applications.
[14:48] <vorian> yeah, I pulled that earlier today
[14:48] <Tm_T> gtk controls for KDE4 then?
[14:48] <nosrednaekim> nice.... now we just need qt3-kde4....
[14:48] <sahin_w> I knew you will like it. ;-)
[14:49] <vorian> sahin_w: have you installed the source package?
[14:49]  * Tm_T likes some sugar with his coffee
[14:49] <sahin_w> vorian: Yes, I tested it at the last weekend.
[14:49] <vorian> i love the quote "it makes my firefox look pretty again"
[14:49] <vorian> sahin_w: how did you like it?
[14:50] <sahin_w> vorian: yes, this is why I like it. I use firfox on my KDE4 desktop.
[14:50] <Tm_T> Tonio_: kdesudo for testing, me wanna?
[14:50]  * apachelogger_ votes for personas :P
[14:50] <sahin_w> vorian: This is promising app
[14:50] <vorian> lemme see how it shapes up then
[14:50]  * vorian builds it for kicks
[14:50] <apachelogger_> http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/snapshot88.png <-- way to go :P
[14:51] <sahin_w> vorian: Maybe some love needed for it, but will rock very soon. I hope...
[14:52] <Tonio_> Tm_T: not yet, you'll have to wait a bit ;)
[14:53] <vorian> sahin_w: did you use 0.3.3 or 0.4b?
[14:53] <sahin_w> vorian: I've tested version 0.3.3
[14:54] <nosrednaekim> lets see how this works in amd64
[14:57] <vorian> sahin_w: it seems there is no copyright with this package
[14:57] <sahin_w> vorian: I did not check the package for copyrights.
[14:59] <sahin_w> vorian: In this case... maybe a good idea to add a comment on the www.kde-apps.org site.
[14:59] <vorian> :)
[15:00] <sahin_w> vorian: Do you have an account on that site?
[15:00] <vorian> yep
[15:02] <sahin_w> vorian: So, will you add a comment? ;-)
[15:02] <vorian> I sent him a pm
[15:02] <sahin_w> vorian: Ok, great!
[15:04] <nosrednaekim> meh.... doesn't seem to work....
[15:05] <nosrednaekim> oh wait... where is the info on applying kde3 styles to gtk apps stored?
[15:06] <mhb> how I hate waiting for the exam results... :o(
[15:07] <mornfall> Tonio_: Good, good.
[15:10] <mornfall> mhb: I had state exams last Monday... : - P.
[15:11] <mornfall> (Bachelors, so written.)
[15:12] <mhb> mornfall: did it go well?
[15:12] <mornfall> Yes, quite well.
[15:12] <mhb> great
[15:15] <mhb> mornfall: congratulations
[15:15] <mornfall> Well, I don't have the results yet ; - ).
[15:15] <mornfall> But hopefully it goes well.
[15:15] <mornfall> So, thanks.
[15:15] <mornfall> And I gotta go now, so see you later.
[15:17] <nosrednaekim> ouch.... that really messed up kde4 compositing
[15:18] <nosrednaekim> and it dod not fix any of my gtk apps.
[15:21] <sahin_w> nosrednaekim: Well I encountered some problem too, because previously I use the qt-gtk-engine from KDE3.
[15:21] <nosrednaekim> sahin_w➜ how did you fix that?
[15:21] <sahin_w> nosrednaekim: I deleted all of the gtkrc files (backup first!).
[15:22] <sahin_w> nosrednaekim: ... and I run the gtk-kde4 again.
[15:22]  * nosrednaekim did the same.... but without any backups :)
[15:22] <sahin_w> nosrednaekim: You're the man! ;-)
[15:22] <nosrednaekim> but it still doesn't work. The app itself is in kde4 style, but firefox, audacity., etc are not.
[15:25] <sahin_w> nosrednaekim: No-no. This apps configure gtk apps, but you have to choose a gtk engine from the list.
[15:25] <sahin_w> nosrednaekim: So gtk apps won't looks like a KDE4 apps until you create/install an oxygen like gtk engine.
[15:26] <sahin_w> nosrednaekim: For example here's an oxygen theme for gtk apps:
[15:26] <sahin_w> nosrednaekim: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/yet+another+OXYGEN+style+for+Gnome?content=64748
[15:27] <sahin_w> nosrednaekim: You have to install this theme first.
[15:27] <nosrednaekim> sahin_w➜ right... I installed the "qt4" theme, which uses the current kde4 theme (I thought)...
[15:28] <nosrednaekim> but i'll install this too...
[15:44] <_StefanS_> kwwii: did you have time to fix the win deco "glassy" image to be used on the window titles?
[15:45] <kwwii> _StefanS_: as the buttons are not transparent that image will have to fit with them so it would be better if nuno made it since he made the buttons
[15:57] <_StefanS_> kwwii: alright
[16:03] <apachelogger_> Riddell: thanks for the backport :)
[16:06] <Riddell> new queue down below 200 entries!
[16:22] <apachelogger_> smarter: I'm merging oxygencursors
[16:25] <Riddell> apachelogger_: merging with what?
[16:25] <smarter> apachelogger_: thanks ;)
[16:26] <smarter> Riddell: with the package I made long ago
[16:26] <smarter> apachelogger_: I'm really busy this week :S
[16:26] <vorian> ok, new kde4 package in the hopper http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=kdiamond-kde4
[16:27] <Riddell> hopper?
[16:27] <vorian> um, its a farming term :)
[16:27] <vorian> bin
[16:27] <emonkey> lol
[16:27] <kwwii> silo
[16:27] <vorian> a hopper is where grain is stored :)
[16:29] <apachelogger_> Riddell: smarter's package, which is using more reasonable names and puts the white theme in an own package ... gotta talk to pusling later on, since debian should probably adopt these changes
[16:32] <nixternal> mornin'
[16:32] <apachelogger_> ahoy nixternal
[16:32] <apachelogger_> vorian: please close a needs-packaging bug in the changelog
[16:33] <vorian> apachelogger_: you are evil :P
[16:33] <apachelogger_> I no :P
[16:33] <nixternal> vorian: you are a hillbilly!
[16:33] <vorian> nixternal: I told you :)
[16:33] <nixternal> a hopper is also where beer is stored!
[16:33] <apachelogger_> vorian: you should make the long description more readable
[16:33] <nixternal> no, you went with farming terms :p
[16:33] <vorian> apachelogger_: I can do that
[16:33] <apachelogger_> a numbered list within a sentence is awful
[16:33] <vorian> apachelogger_: I agree, I should have changed that in the beginning
[16:34] <apachelogger_> hm
[16:35] <nixternal> you know, for a country always talking about fighting terrorism, we sure do provide a lot of information that would help create a successful terrorist..ie. the front page of http://www.foxnews.com
[16:35] <apachelogger_> hm
[16:36] <apachelogger_> vorian: what exactly is the use of the list in debian/copyright?
[16:36] <apachelogger_> vorian: Upstream Author(s):  <--- kill the  (s)
[16:36] <vorian> they are all the files licenced to the author
[16:36] <apachelogger_> vorian: why would you list them?
[16:37] <apachelogger_> I mean, if all files are copyrighted by him anyway
[16:37] <jpatrick> nixternal: http://www.bbc.co.uk/home/beta/
[16:37] <apachelogger_> and are GPL2+ anyway
[16:37] <apachelogger_> why whould you list anything ;-)
[16:37] <vorian> they showed up on licensecheck
[16:37] <vorian> o, ic :)
[16:37] <apachelogger_> wooohooo
[16:37] <apachelogger_> torchwood game
[16:38] <nixternal> jpatrick: what am I looking for here? Besides the fact that their beta website is very clean and nicely laid out :)
[16:38] <apachelogger_> vorian: well, technically you can list them, but that is going to create some nice headache when maintaining ;-)
[16:38] <jpatrick> nixternal: better news page
[16:38] <vorian> I'll remove them
[16:38] <jpatrick> ;-)
[16:40] <nixternal> heh, BBC isn't any better with their news reporting I see...they report silly things too like "Calls to ban 'anti-teen' device"
[16:40] <nixternal> we are starting to see the anti-teen devices around here now
[16:40] <apachelogger_> hm
[16:41] <apachelogger_> the only reasonable news source is the KDE dot
[16:41] <nixternal> hehe
[16:41] <Riddell> nixternal: why is that silly?
[16:41] <nixternal> I like watching BBC news though
[16:41] <apachelogger_> ....and maybe my "Wall of 5 Layers of Notes"
[16:42] <nixternal> Riddell: I guess that would be considered up there with the "Britney Spears" stories for me I guess
[16:42] <apachelogger_> thinking about it, I think quite some stuff got lost there :S
[16:42]  * apachelogger_ should revu that as well
[16:42] <Riddell> nixternal: it's a pretty serious issue if you end up next to one, those things are deliberate public disturbance and quite painful
[16:42] <Riddell> nixternal: http://jriddell.org/diary/?p=54
[16:43] <nixternal> hahaha, Mosquito Teenage Repellent
[16:43] <nixternal> I haven't heard one yet, just seen a coupld
[16:43] <nixternal> couple
[16:43] <jpatrick> just hope you don't
[16:44] <nixternal> the way it was explained, it plays a tone my old arse can't hear
[16:44] <nixternal> it will prove useless in the US...our teens are rebels, they will just rip um off the walls
[16:45] <nixternal> then again, we actually talked about these things in our class, and teens are just keeping their iPods plugged in while around areas that have these
[16:45] <Riddell> I very nearly ripped that one off the wall
[16:45] <apachelogger_> hm
[16:45]  * apachelogger_ only sees one proper solution
[16:45] <nixternal> Riddell: so even not being a teen, you could still hear the thing?
[16:45] <apachelogger_> go out clubbing
[16:45] <apachelogger_> destroy your hearing
[16:45] <apachelogger_> and voila :D
[16:45] <nixternal> haha
[16:46] <apachelogger_> mhhh, I love today's society
[16:46] <vorian> lol
[16:46] <nixternal> I can't stand clubbing anymore...I like finding a nice hole in the wall bar and just chilling...with some good classic rock, or even a karaoke booth
[16:46] <nixternal> or a sushi bar :)
[16:47]  * apachelogger_ never was much of a clubbing person
[16:47] <apachelogger_> bars are so much better :)
[16:47] <nixternal> any pub that plays the Beatles, Zeppelin, Floyd, and such, is my type of pub
[16:47] <nixternal> I even like a good honkey tonk
[16:47] <vorian> yeee haaaa
[16:48] <nixternal> hehe
[16:48] <vorian> the wildhorse is an awesome club/honkytonk
[16:48] <vorian> in Nashville
[16:48] <nixternal> people that haven't been to a honkytonk just don't know
[16:48] <nixternal> wildhorse rocks
[16:48] <vorian> I'll be there on ....
[16:48] <nixternal> we used to have a couple of really good ones in Chicago actually
[16:48] <vorian> march 10th i think
[16:49] <nixternal> I live about 5 miles from the Cadillac Ranch which was a great honkytonk back in the day
[16:49] <nixternal> but new owners took over and tried to make it into a late night club
[16:49] <vorian> lol
[16:49] <nixternal> now people go there when the 2am clubs close
[16:50] <apachelogger_> Oo
[16:50] <apachelogger_> 2am clubs
[16:50] <apachelogger_> that sounds rather strange
[16:52] <vorian> ok, it's back in the hopper :P
[16:52] <nixternal> unless you go to the city, all clubs in the burbs typically close at 2am, with a few 4am to 6am clubs
[16:53] <vorian> apachelogger_: I adopted all of your suggested changes
[16:54] <apachelogger_> vorian: aye, I'll give it a full revu as soon as I finished the oxygen cursors
[16:54] <vorian> wicked
[16:54] <apachelogger_> hm, full revu, now that sounds strange
[16:54] <vorian> you rock :)
[16:55] <apachelogger_> nixternal: do you have time to revu http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=kdiamond-kde4 ?
[16:55] <apachelogger_> jpatrick: ^
[16:57]  * vorian changes computers
[16:59] <txwikinger> apachelogger_ is too sexy for Amarok ;)
[16:59] <apachelogger_> yes I am
[16:59] <txwikinger> I know.. I translated it :D
[17:00] <apachelogger_> :P
[17:00] <jpatrick> vorian: description: s/Kdiamond/KDiamond
[17:02] <jpatrick> apachelogger_: if builds and runs: +1
[17:02] <vorian> jpatrick: here 'KDiamond offers.....'
[17:02] <vorian> ?
[17:04] <jpatrick> vorian: http://tinyurl.com/3xtrq6
[17:07] <vorian> thanks :)
[17:09] <vorian> jpatrick: I fixed the long description and it's back up :)
[17:12] <jpatrick> apachelogger_: kdiamond looks good
[17:13] <apachelogger__> aye, will have a look at it soon
[17:13]  * jpatrick gets backs to economics hwk
[17:19] <apachelogger__> jpatrick: can you please add an adovcate to kdiamond
[17:21] <jpatrick> apachelogger__: done
[17:21] <apachelogger__> thx
[17:21] <txwikinger> Long live the advocado
[17:22]  * txwikinger is checking how many forwarded bugs kde.org has fixed in the meantime
[17:23]  * apachelogger__ isn't sure about the "is licensed under the GPL-2, see above."
[17:23] <apachelogger__> txwikinger: did you actually link them to the LP bugs?
[17:23] <apachelogger__> I didn't notice any traffic from that direction :)
[17:23] <txwikinger> yes da'
[17:23] <apachelogger__> k
[17:23] <txwikinger> I did not create new ones in LP
[17:24] <txwikinger> I thought that was a waste of time
[17:24] <Riddell> apachelogger__: should be fine if above is something meaningful about GPL 2 but "GNU GPL version 2 {only,or later}" better
[17:24] <txwikinger> I rather put the ones I found while testing directly to kde.org
[17:24] <Riddell> "see above"
[17:24] <Riddell> New queue down below 150 items!
[17:25] <txwikinger> kde4?
[17:25] <apachelogger__> Riddell: well, above is the URL of GPL-2, though the license abstract is GPL2+
[17:25] <smarter> Riddell: great :)
[17:25] <jpatrick> well, I'll get kmediafactory-kde4 into hardy+1
[17:26] <apachelogger__> txwikinger: yeah, just link them if there is an ubuntu bug
[17:26]  * apachelogger__ thinks we should actually close the reports in ubuntu as soon as we forwarded an upstream bug to KDE
[17:26] <coreymon77> hm, wednesday the 20th at 6:00 pm
[17:26] <coreymon77> i should be able to make that
[17:26] <coreymon77> possibly
[17:26] <txwikinger> apachelogger__: We should ask for another state... forwarded
[17:27] <txwikinger> or upstream or something like that
[17:27] <Riddell> queue accept lemonpos-kde4
[17:27] <Riddell> one for you vorian
[17:28] <apachelogger__> vorian: IMO you should change the copyright content to http://paste.ubuntu.com/4505/
[17:28]  * txwikinger wants a kubuntu without resource leaks
[17:28] <apachelogger__> vorian: i.e. state it's gpl2+ and give the URL to GPL rather than GPL-2
[17:29] <apachelogger__> txwikinger: resoure leaks?
[17:29] <apachelogger__> txwikinger: btw, I like the idea of a new bug status
[17:29] <txwikinger> well.. If you don't restart kdm, the desktop gets slower and slower and has a lot of D status processes
[17:30] <vorian> awesome Riddell :)
[17:30] <apachelogger__> txwikinger: hm, does it happen with gdm as well? ;-)
[17:30] <txwikinger> and xorg accumulates memory
[17:30]  * apachelogger__ doesn't exactly like kdm these days
[17:31] <txwikinger> apachelogger__: Never tried that but I would assume so
[17:31] <apachelogger__> Riddell: btw, did you have a look at my k-d-s commits?
[17:31] <txwikinger> restarting kdm restarts all of kde and xorg... that is why it solves the issue
[17:31] <apachelogger__> txwikinger: well, IMO it's some Xorg issue
[17:32] <txwikinger> fine with me apachelogger__
[17:32] <txwikinger> As long as it gets fixed
[17:32] <txwikinger> I noticed that already years ago when I used SUSE
[17:32] <apachelogger__> Oo
[17:33] <vorian> apachelogger__: so just like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/4506/
[17:33] <vorian> :)
[17:33] <apachelogger__> maybe we should add a notification - "This session is active since more than 1 day, please relogin to avoid speed problems"
[17:34] <apachelogger__> vorian: yes, but wait with the upload
[17:34]  * apachelogger__ testbuilds
[17:34] <vorian> ok
[17:34] <txwikinger> apachelogger__: Well, that sounds like a Windows fix
[17:34] <smarter> apachelogger__: "This session is active since more than 1 day, please relogin to avoid speed problems"  << I would expect that from Windows, not Linux
[17:35] <apachelogger__> txwikinger: right, we should just invoke a relogin ;-)
[17:35] <apachelogger__> kde session mangement will take care of it just fine
[17:35] <smarter> or we should'nt let the computer boot at all
[17:35] <txwikinger> And save all changed documents?
[17:35] <apachelogger__> good point
[17:35]  * apachelogger__ can break kdm-kde4 again
[17:35] <apachelogger__> then we have no performance issues with KDE 4
[17:35] <apachelogger__> one more reason to switch :D
[17:36]  * txwikinger is talking about KDE3
[17:36] <apachelogger__> so letz break that as well
[17:36] <txwikinger> however, I have seen plasma going crazy on resources too
[17:36]  * apachelogger__ inagines that this is quite easy with all the kdm patches in kde3
[17:36] <apachelogger__> inagines
[17:36] <apachelogger__> I like
[17:37] <apachelogger__> txwikinger: the trick is not to use plasma
[17:37]  * apachelogger__ is wondering why plasma is duplicating icons
[17:37] <apachelogger__> anyone having this issue as well?
[17:37] <txwikinger> well... I did not know that I ded
[17:37] <txwikinger> did
[17:37]  * apachelogger__ is a bit concerned about the duplicate icons
[17:37] <apachelogger__> it seems to appear one day
[17:37] <apachelogger__> and never go away
[17:38] <txwikinger> let's see what dist-upgrade do today
[17:38]  * apachelogger__ is wondering why kde-icons-oxygen download is so slow
[17:38] <apachelogger__> :S
[17:39] <txwikinger> EventDispatcherUNIX::unregisterTimer: invalid argument
[17:39] <txwikinger> I don't even run unix
[17:41] <apachelogger__> omg
[17:41] <apachelogger__> / is out of space
[17:42] <txwikinger> well.. that is a way to stop it from booting
[17:42] <apachelogger__> true
[17:42] <smarter> apachelogger__: use LVM :)
[17:43] <txwikinger> well.. that will be another 30min update
[17:43] <apachelogger__> smarter: it's only oos because it's filled with crap ;-)
[17:43] <apachelogger__> next try to testbuild kdiamond :D
[17:43] <txwikinger> apachelogger__: that is a dangerous statement
[17:44] <smarter> txwikinger: right ;)
[17:45] <apachelogger__> txwikinger: 7 diffrent versions of amarok don't count as crap? Oo
[17:46] <txwikinger> well.. there was a lot of room for creative thinking ;)
[17:46] <apachelogger__> txwikinger: orly?
[17:46] <apachelogger__> ah well
[17:46] <apachelogger__> linux is on it as well...
[17:46] <smarter> :}
[17:46] <apachelogger__> pretty much equals my inital statement :P
[17:46] <apachelogger__> windows ftw!
[17:47]  * apachelogger__ is wondering
[17:47] <smarter> I got flammed when I said something about a debian .diff.gz
[17:47] <apachelogger__> why would krunner off Konsole/KDE3 as default
[17:47] <smarter> and nobody react when you says linux is crap :)
[17:48] <apachelogger__> smarter: must be true then :P
[17:49] <smarter> maybe it's related to the latest cool way to become root on a linux box :)
[17:49]  * apachelogger__ doesn't like root
[17:50] <apachelogger__> it kinda distrubes my thinking of "everything is equally important"
[17:50] <apachelogger__> s/everything/everyone
[17:50]  * apachelogger__ shouldn't sing while writing :D
[17:51] <jpatrick> smarter: you won't happen to have a log of kepas pbuild would you?
[17:51] <apachelogger__> I might have, if I didn't delete it
[17:52] <apachelogger__> nope, already gone :(
[17:52] <jpatrick> damn
[17:52] <smarter> jpatrick: I think I could find one if I scroll a lot ;)
[17:52] <smarter> hold on a sec
[17:52] <jpatrick> smarter: just need the last part, where dpkg-shlibsdeps is
[17:53] <smarter> http://pastebin.com/d16503b82
[17:53] <smarter> uh
[17:53] <smarter> just realized it's in french
[17:53] <apachelogger__> jpatrick understands french just well
[17:54] <mhb> woohoo!
[17:54] <jpatrick> smarter: no problem
[17:54]  * apachelogger__ waves to mhb
[17:54] <smarter> pas de problème, then
[17:54] <mhb> hey apachelogger__
[17:54] <mhb> I finally passed that darn exam.
[17:55] <apachelogger__> woohooo
[17:55] <apachelogger__> party!
[17:55] <mhb> so I have got free time until monday.
[17:55] <mhb> that means - kubuntu hacking time!
[17:55] <mhb> and party
[17:55] <apachelogger__> someone get the beer
[17:55]  * apachelogger__ looks at smarter
[17:55]  * smarter only drinks lemonade :)
[17:55] <apachelogger__> -.-
[17:56] <jpatrick> explains lemospas-kde4
[17:56] <apachelogger__> mhb: no party, thanks to smarter
[17:56] <smarter> and is underage, btw :P
[17:56] <jpatrick> smarter: no martini, no party
[17:56] <apachelogger__> underage as well
[17:56]  * apachelogger__ notes that smarter must never join the secret amarok channels when a party is going on
[17:57] <smarter> secret amarok channels?
[17:57] <smarter> thant sounds cool ;)
[17:57] <smarter> there's more than one?
[17:57] <apachelogger__> sure
[17:57] <mhb> we are pretty much the only open source development team with no secret channel
[17:57] <apachelogger__> smarter: basically every amarok project got one
[17:57] <apachelogger__> and we have like 4 of them right now
[17:58] <apachelogger__> +1 uberleet channel
[17:59] <smarter> what are the amarok projects?
[17:59] <smarter> world domination?
[17:59] <apachelogger__> world domination, neon, anorak and marketing
[17:59] <Riddell> neon?
[17:59] <apachelogger__> [18:59] <insanity> Neon is the internal codename of the Amarok Nightly Builds Project. Transmissions tagged as Neon have to be kept secret at all costs. Most important policy item is that every transmitted object has to be destroyed once it has been processed. Only the current project leader is allowed to store information.
[17:59] <apachelogger__> [18:59] <insanity> This message will self destruct in 5 seconds!
[18:00] <smarter> and anorak?
[18:00] <jpatrick> Transmissions tagged as Neon have to be kept secret at all costs.
[18:00] <apachelogger__> smarter: radio
[18:00] <jpatrick> well well well
[18:00] <apachelogger__> jpatrick: I don't exactly care what insanity says ;-)
[18:00] <smarter> #amarok.radio ? :)
[18:00] <apachelogger__> smarter: yes
[18:01] <Riddell> why do they have to be kept secret at all costs?
[18:01] <smarter> nightly builds?
[18:01] <apachelogger__> Riddell: generating a promotion bubble
[18:01] <smarter> like, free .deb package everyday? :)
[18:02] <apachelogger__> so, if suddenly a lot of amarok people start talking about how cool ubuntu is and how much better amarok + ubuntu is... it's probably the bubble for neon ;-)
[18:02] <apachelogger__> smarter: yes
[18:02] <Riddell> apachelogger__: so it'll go public at some point?
[18:03] <apachelogger__> Riddell: yep, as soon as I pointed out how to properly sign packages in a cron job
[18:03] <apachelogger__> first starting off with ubuntu only, but we hope to attract more people so we can offer nightly builds for various distros, maybe even windows
[18:05] <smarter> https://edge.launchpad.net/~amarok-nightly/+archive :)
[18:05] <txwikinger> wouldn't windows be obsolete by then?
[18:05]  * apachelogger__ throws an empty beer bottle at smarter
[18:05] <apachelogger__> txwikinger: is bug 1 yet in fix commited?
[18:06]  * smarter ducks
[18:06] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1
[18:06] <txwikinger> No still only confirmed
[18:06] <apachelogger__> so probably not ;-)
[18:06] <txwikinger> maybe we should put it in stage traiged
[18:06] <txwikinger> triaged
[18:06] <apachelogger__> maybe
[18:07]  * smarter is going to play with amarok builds :}
[18:07] <apachelogger__> smarter: don't hurt yourself
[18:07] <txwikinger> apachelogger__: Can I listen to web radio stations on amarok?
[18:08] <jpatrick> "20080208-0~amarok1" - yay, for great version numbering..
[18:08] <txwikinger> I mean the webstream of real radio stations
[18:08] <apachelogger__> txwikinger: why souldn't you?
[18:08] <apachelogger__> jpatrick: :P
[18:08] <txwikinger> Everytime I try it I have problems
[18:08] <apachelogger__> I need to think of some meaningful scheme
[18:09] <txwikinger> often they are encapculated in stupid javascript calls
[18:09] <jpatrick> apachelogger__: 2.0~svn20080208-0~amarok1
[18:09] <smarter> apachelogger__: 1.9.80+080208-1 ?
[18:09] <smarter> jpatrick's one is better
[18:09] <apachelogger__> jpatrick: I'm not going to change the versin number once 2.1 is in development :P
[18:10]  * apachelogger__ is more worrid about the 0~amarok1
[18:10] <apachelogger__> doesn't look all that good IMO
[18:10] <jpatrick> apachelogger__: ~ means less than, it's used in backports: 2.0 > 2.0~1: true
[18:10] <txwikinger> I need to have a plugin which asks me for the radio call sign and plays it
[18:11] <smarter> apachelogger__: -0killyourdog1 ?
[18:11] <apachelogger__> jpatrick: yes, but I think it should be 0ubuntu0~amarok1 to make it most visible that this package is not from ubuntu at all
[18:12] <smarter> 0amarok1 then
[18:12] <apachelogger__> yeah, also possible
[18:12] <mhb> hmm, where can I send a valentines card to Kubuntu?
[18:12] <apachelogger__> *head meets table*
[18:12] <mhb> it seems this valentine it will be just me and her alone
[18:12] <smarter> mhb: Kubuntu is a girl?
[18:13] <jpatrick> apachelogger__: 2.0~svn20080208-0ubuntu1~amarok1 then
[18:13]  * apachelogger__ just hopes someone is sending him a valentines card
[18:13] <mhb> smarter: caring about the gender is so uncool now
[18:13] <apachelogger__> jpatrick: 20080208-0ubuntu1~amarok1
[18:13] <jpatrick> apachelogger__: and you have to release version 2009...? :-)
[18:14] <jpatrick> or just use epoch?
[18:14] <apachelogger__> 2009 :P
[18:14] <smarter> apachelogger__: no packages for hardy? :o
[18:15] <apachelogger__> smarter: nope, always for the current version only
[18:15] <apachelogger__> it's all about reducing the maintenance work
[18:15]  * smarter can't stay with a stable ubuntu release more than a month
[18:15] <apachelogger__> because, from my understanding a lot of daily/nightly builds breakt at some point and stay this way because it would be "too much" work to fix it
[18:16] <mhb> hrm, having no-one at valentines day is so nerdish :o)
[18:16] <apachelogger__> this is also the reason for the amarok-nightly-kdebase and stuff
[18:17]  * apachelogger__ winks at mhb
[18:17] <mhb> apachelogger__: no long distance relationships for me, thank you
[18:17] <smarter> mhb: so I must be a big nerd
[18:17] <mhb> apachelogger__: unless you move to prague
[18:18] <apachelogger__> vorian: I hearby declare the demanding of a debian/watch file :P
[18:18] <vorian> nooooooo
[18:18] <apachelogger__> mhb: ah, at some point I might
[18:18] <mhb> smarter: yeah, me too... it is a long process for me to realize it :o)
[18:18] <vorian> it's a mangled mess
[18:18]  * apachelogger__ is not really feeling like staying anywhere very long
[18:18] <vorian> 403 forbiddens with multiple combinations
[18:19] <apachelogger__> nice
[18:19] <vorian> :)
[18:19] <apachelogger__> vorian: I hearby declare the debian/watch demand as 2nd class demand and demand an upload of the latest version
[18:20] <vorian> w00t!
[18:20]  * apachelogger__ is listening to Help Yourself by Tom Jones on Greatest Hits [Amarok]
[18:20] <apachelogger__> all the truth by mr jones
[18:20] <vorian> he's a cool kat
[18:21]  * apachelogger__ starts dancing with his sonic screwdriver
[18:21] <vorian> apachelogger__: so the copyright file I pasted was good?
[18:21] <apachelogger__> yes
[18:21] <vorian> okie dokie
[18:21] <apachelogger__> unless
[18:22] <apachelogger__> maybe I start to hate it within the next few minutes
[18:22] <apachelogger__> so better hurry up :P
[18:22] <apachelogger__> ah
[18:22] <apachelogger__> too late
[18:22]  * apachelogger__ thinks tabs aren't any good for any file but debian/rules
[18:22] <vorian> haha
[18:24]  * apachelogger__ is listening to It's Not Unusual by Tom Jones on Greatest Hits [Amarok]
[18:24] <apachelogger__> indeed
[18:24] <apachelogger__> it's not unusual that I change my mind :P
[18:25] <jpatrick> xRaich[o]2x: interesting hostname
[18:25] <apachelogger__> lol
[18:29] <apachelogger__> vorian: Game -> Quit doesn't work ;-)
[18:30] <vorian> hmmmmm
[18:30] <xRaich[o]2x> jpatrick: CCC Münster ;)
[18:31] <apachelogger__> Hm, über Münster hab ich glaube ein Lied
[18:31] <apachelogger__> Oder etwas ähnliches
[18:31]  * apachelogger__ is listening to Sommer in Münster by Skampis on Live in der Leeze [Amarok]
[18:31] <apachelogger__> wusste ich ja
[18:32] <apachelogger__> jpatrick: plz readvocate kdiamond
[18:39]  * nixternal waits for vorian comment :p
[18:39] <vorian> nixternal: what do you want me to say :|
[18:40] <apachelogger__> something nerdy
[18:40] <vorian> :'(
[18:40] <nixternal> blog post :)
[18:40] <nixternal> Sam McGuffie going to the MAIZEN BLUE!
[18:41] <vorian> lol
[18:41] <nixternal> have you seen that kids highlights on youtube? he is sick
[18:42] <vorian> nah
[18:42] <smarter> vorian: Try to change the useragent, default uscan has an empty useragent and some servers don't like that
[18:42] <nixternal> 4.3/40
[18:42] <nixternal> 190 pounds, 45" vertical, 355 pound max bench, 6'-0"
[18:43] <nixternal> I have been lifting since that kid was born, and his max bench press is within 30 pounds of mine
[18:43] <vorian> heh
[18:43] <nixternal> 45" vertical is nuts
[18:44] <nixternal> he can almost jump 4 feet straight into the air...like he is spiderman or something
[18:44] <vorian> I feel sorry the kid has to play on such a team
[18:44] <nixternal> bah
[18:44] <vorian> he could have had a good college career
[18:44] <vorian> :P
[18:44] <nixternal> no school in this country better than the maizen blue all around :p
[18:44] <vorian> next thing you know he'll be fighting dogs
[18:45] <vorian> yes
[18:45] <vorian> they are good at badmitten
[18:45] <vorian> cricket
[18:45] <vorian> ping pong
[18:46] <vorian> checkers
[18:46] <vorian> and super mario 3
[18:46] <nixternal> to bad you all picked shugart
[18:46] <nixternal> big dumb dude
[18:46] <vorian> lol
[18:46] <smarter> super mario ftw :)
[18:46] <vorian> I think our main goal was getting a qb
[18:46] <nixternal> mcguffie hurdled shugart on film
[18:46] <ScottK> Riddell: IIRC you asked me to remind you about attending the tech board meeting when I'm up for core-dev.  It's starting in ~75 minutes.
[18:47] <nixternal> ScottK: good luck, though I think you are good to go and very much needed
[18:47] <ScottK> Thanks.
[18:47] <Riddell> ScottK: where's your wiki page?
[18:47] <nixternal> on the wiki :p
[18:47]  * nixternal ducks
[18:47]  * ScottK get it
[18:47] <ScottK> Riddell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScottKitterman
[18:48] <vorian> nixternal: why does your blog say i'm using ubuntu?
[18:48] <vorian> is it because of ff
[18:48] <vorian> ?
[18:48]  * apachelogger__ doesn't like firefox
[18:48] <smarter> true kubuntu users don't use firefox :)
[18:49] <nixternal> vorian: cuz the user agent in Kubuntu is goofy...are you using hardy?
[18:49] <vorian> i know, i'm a fake user
[18:49] <vorian> yeah
[18:49] <nixternal> my hardy is saying GNU/Linux again and not Kubuntu
[18:49] <nixternal> but ya, could be because of FF
[18:49] <smarter> Konqueror has a more verbose user agent
[18:50] <nixternal> konqi was displaying Kubuntu correctly for a while..just the past couple of weeks I think it has changed
[18:50] <nixternal> where it lost the OS
[18:50] <smarter> nixternal: you can configure it in the settings
[18:50] <apachelogger__> nixternal: KDE 4ß
[18:50] <apachelogger__> ?
[18:51] <nixternal> yes
[18:51] <apachelogger__> nixternal: and it did work before? Oo
[18:51] <nixternal> yup
[18:51] <apachelogger__> uhm
[18:51] <nixternal> you can see it in some of my previous posts/comments on my blog with Kubuntu
[18:52] <nixternal> and now it says GNU/Linux
[18:52]  * apachelogger__ points at Riddell :P
[18:52] <nixternal> happened with Gutsy too, we couldn't find the setting for it, or where it gets it from
[18:52] <apachelogger__> cool
[18:53] <nixternal> I never noticed it until I add the silly browser and os sniffer plugin to my blog
[18:53] <vorian>  steve (13:51:21) :
[18:53] <vorian>    (Using Konqueror Konqueror 4.0 on GNU/Linux GNU/Linux
[18:53] <vorian> that is weird
[18:55] <apachelogger__> how to test that anyway?
[18:55] <smarter> nixternal: settings -> configure konqueror -> browser identification(or whatever it is called with konqueror in english) ?
[18:59] <nixternal> I guess I am wrong, it has never worked with KDE 4
[18:59] <nixternal> smarter: been there done that
[18:59] <apachelogger__> ok, so we are just missing a patch
[18:59] <apachelogger__> sec
[19:00] <apachelogger__> nixternal: yep, patch missing in kdelibs
[19:02] <nixternal> there is a useragent patch in kdelibs/
[19:03] <nixternal> s/\//\?/
[19:03] <apachelogger__> nixternal: kubuntu_19_debianize_useragent.diff
[19:03] <nixternal> hrmm
[19:03] <nixternal> thought we looked at that before..can't remember though
[19:03] <apachelogger__> nixternal: can you please revu kdiamond?
[19:03] <apachelogger__> jpatrick apparently got lost
[19:04] <nixternal> k
[19:05] <nixternal> umm, jpatrick already +1'd it
[19:05] <vorian> nixternal: copyright changed
[19:05] <apachelogger__> nixternal: yeah, but policy says it needs a new approval for a new upload
[19:07] <nixternal> apachelogger__: looking at it now
[19:07] <smarter> apachelogger__: so you merged/synced the oxygen cursor theme?
[19:08] <apachelogger__> smarter: yes
[19:08] <apachelogger__> just need to get someone revu the changes :)
[19:09] <smarter> apachelogger__: where is it?
[19:10] <apachelogger__> smarter: not yet uploaded
[19:10] <apachelogger__> muah
[19:10] <apachelogger__> ubuntuwire is still down :|
[19:10] <smarter> apachelogger__: no it's not
[19:12] <apachelogger__> smarter: http://www.ubuntuwire.com
[19:14] <smarter> apachelogger__: oh, I only tried revu.ubuntuwire.com which works
[19:14] <apachelogger__> yeah, it's a different server
[19:15] <apachelogger__> nixternal: patch ported to KDE 4, I am testbuilding now
[19:18] <Level15> hi
[19:19] <jussi01> hiya Level15
[19:19] <Level15> i think i there's a bug on the language updates of today for 7.10. After installed, people using en_CA as LANG will have most kde applications refusing to start.
[19:19] <jussi01> Level15: did you report it on Launchpad?
[19:19] <Level15> had to set it to en_US for it to work
[19:19] <Level15> not yet
[19:20] <nixternal> oh man, KDiamond is addicting
[19:21] <vorian> mwahahaha!
[19:21] <vorian> that was my plan
[19:21] <vorian> to distract all the powers that be!
[19:21] <nixternal> uploaded KDiamond...good job!
[19:22] <vorian> danke
[19:22] <apachelogger__> nixternal: you already did?
[19:22] <nixternal> yup
[19:22] <apachelogger__> very good
[19:22]  * nixternal goes back to playing KDiamond :)
[19:22] <vorian> lol
[19:22] <apachelogger__> Oo
[19:22] <apachelogger__> omg
[19:22] <apachelogger__> nixternal: stop playing :P
[19:22] <emonkey> vorian, where you from?
[19:22] <apachelogger__> we hav eserious work to do
[19:23] <vorian> emonkey: ohio
[19:23] <vorian> that's why nixternal is always picking on me :)
[19:23] <apachelogger__> nixternal: please have a look at this: http://aplg.kollide.net/kubuntu/inter.diff
[19:23] <emonkey> vorian, but you're speaking german or why do you wrote danke?
[19:24] <apachelogger__> emonkey: weil hier sowieso ständig irgendjemand deutsch spricht :P
[19:24] <emonkey> ja das is schon klar
[19:25] <emonkey> aber ob der das so schnell gelernt hat?
[19:25] <apachelogger__> emonkey: wieso nicht? :P
[19:25] <emonkey> wer weiss :)
[19:26] <vorian> emonkey: I often like to through out words from languages I haven't the foggiest about
[19:27] <vorian> :P
[19:27] <smarter> Ich verstande nicht wtf you're talking about :)
[19:27] <vorian> haha
[19:28] <smarter> apachelogger__: debian people still use plain debhelper? :o
[19:28] <apachelogger__> smarter: très bien :P
[19:28] <apachelogger__> at times, yes
[19:28] <apachelogger__> debhelper ain't that bad
[19:29] <apachelogger__> and it's probably easier to create workarounds in plain debhelper than with cdbs
[19:29] <apachelogger__> ...considering one doesn't want to get in touch with cdbs at all ;-)
[19:29] <ScottK> CBDS is fine if the automagic works.  Trying to teach it to deal with other situations can be, um, interesting.
[19:29] <apachelogger__> which is also understandable, sometimes it's just magic
[19:29] <apachelogger__> ScottK: one just needs to get used to it
[19:30] <smarter> Ich lerne Deutsch seit drei Jahren :)
[19:30] <apachelogger__> ...and know how to read the dotty graphic :)
[19:30] <smarter> I don't really like makefile-like code
[19:31] <smarter> cdbs syntax is short so I like it
[19:31] <apachelogger__> hehe
[19:31] <apachelogger__> smarter: that sentence was actually pretty good, considering you're learning german only for 3 years
[19:31] <smarter> thanks
[19:31] <apachelogger__> ...also my french is still tha worst, after 5.5 years... ;-)
[19:33] <nixternal> heh, I need a video camera...it wouuld have been awesome to watch footage of me getting smashed in the ring today
[19:33] <apachelogger__> lol
[19:33] <apachelogger__> nixternal: did you have a look at the diff yet?
[19:33] <nixternal> this mornings workout took us into the ring with 10 ounce gloves, and the guy I was sparring with knocked me flat out, and they said when I started coming too, I was screaming for my laptop
[19:33] <smarter> I just don't understand why every german teacher I had were so bad
[19:34] <nixternal> apachelogger__: ya, looks  just like every other diff I have looked at
[19:34] <smarter> haha
[19:34] <apachelogger__> good point
[19:34] <apachelogger__> nixternal: do you do a lot of sponsering?
[19:34] <apachelogger__> sponsoring even even
[19:34] <nixternal> when I can..and I really only sponsor K stuff
[19:35] <nixternal> unless ScottK forces me to work on stuff I normally wouldn't..and he knows what I am talking about
[19:35] <apachelogger__> hm
[19:35] <ScottK> He's still scarred from when I made him merge courier (and I started typing that before nixternal's last comment).
[19:35] <apachelogger__> sounds like not a lot, so the diffs are prolly hi-quality which means oxygencursors is ready for upload :D
[19:36] <emonkey> smarter, ich verstehe nicht not ich verstande nicht
[19:36]  * emonkey knows that learning German ist just PITA
[19:36] <apachelogger__> right
[19:36] <nixternal> packaging isn't my only forte, I have a ton of other stuff I am working on, especially right now...I need to start biting on smaller chunks so I can dev more and type less
[19:36] <apachelogger__> emonkey has to learn it as well
[19:37] <apachelogger__> swiss aren't all that good in german :P
[19:37] <emonkey> you little austrian bastard ;)
[19:37] <nixternal> hahhahha
[19:37] <apachelogger__> can't even pronounce it properly
[19:37] <apachelogger__> awful
[19:37] <apachelogger__> that is like RRRrrrRRRrrRRRRRrr
[19:37] <emonkey> rofl
[19:37] <apachelogger__> which would mean "how are you"
[19:37] <emonkey> an chCHCch
[19:37] <apachelogger__> right
[19:38] <apachelogger__> RRCHchchrrR
[19:38] <apachelogger__> means "nice weather, isn't it"
[19:38] <emonkey> XD
[19:38] <xRaich[o]2x> apachelogger__: That was dutch!
[19:38] <xRaich[o]2x> chrrrrr
[19:38]  * smarter lives 200 meter from swiss border
[19:38] <smarter> *meters
[19:39] <emonkey> dutch is a bit similar to the swiss-german sometimes
[19:39] <apachelogger__> ->> languagelogger: wü göt es dür
[19:39] <Riddell> ScottK: looks like I'm having to go somewhere
[19:39] <emonkey> smarter, but in this part the swiss are speaking french
[19:39] <ScottK> OK.
[19:39] <Riddell> ScottK: but "I advocate ScottK for core-dev, he's very reliable for backports and motu activity and has done some important merges in main"
[19:40] <vorian> emonkey: hoe gaat het?
[19:40] <ScottK> Riddell: Thanks.
[19:40] <Riddell> ScottK: feel free to paste something like that from me
[19:40] <ScottK> Will do
[19:40] <vorian> nederlands ftw!
[19:40] <smarter> emonkey: I know, but I hear some strange Deutsch in Geneva from time to time ;)
[19:40] <emonkey> vorian, you speaking dutch? mi gaats gut
[19:40] <vorian> goed goed :)
[19:41] <vorian> /ends knowledge of dutch
[19:41] <vorian> other than Vader
[19:41] <vorian> :P
[19:43] <nixternal> wy pachneicie jak goovna  <-- only polish my grandmother ever tought me
[19:44] <apachelogger__> whatever that might mean
[19:44] <nixternal> I think it means "you smell like shit"
[19:44] <apachelogger__> lol
[19:44] <ScottK> Some Grandma you had.
[19:44] <nixternal> haha
[19:44]  * apachelogger__ is wundert où Nightrose è
[19:45] <Nightrose> apachelogger__: here ;-)
[19:45] <Nightrose> just got back from university and shopping
[19:45] <apachelogger__> you bought yourself a university? Oo
[19:45] <apachelogger__> what the
[19:45] <Nightrose> *lol* nope - two new jeans
[19:45] <nixternal> but spanish, well at least the way the latinos speak it here in chicago, I got that down
[19:46] <apachelogger__> Nightrose: tight ones?
[19:46] <Nightrose> apachelogger__: sure :P
[19:46] <apachelogger__> hrrhrr
[19:46]  * apachelogger__ is listening to I'm Gonna be (500 Miles) by The Proclaimers on The Best of... [Amarok]
[19:49] <Riddell> apachelogger__: good tune
[19:49] <Riddell> I recommend it for karaoke
[19:50] <Nightrose> haha we gotta do that next time apachelogger__ ;-)
[19:50] <Nightrose> instead of counting crows
[19:50] <Nightrose> that was way to hard
[19:53] <nixternal> my Karaoke tune that I am known for in all sushi bars around the Chicagoland area is Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody
[19:54] <nixternal> and also America's A Horse With No Name
[19:56] <nixternal> that is of course after a few bottles of hot saki and a few sapporos
[19:56] <apachelogger__> Riddell: yeah, since I heard you sing it I can't stop listening to it ;-)
[19:56] <apachelogger__> Nightrose: @ fosdem?
[19:56] <Nightrose> ;-) sure
[19:57] <nixternal> oh man, you gotta take video of that one :)
[19:57] <apachelogger__> of course :D
[19:57] <Nightrose> hehe yea
[19:57] <Nightrose> and not as short as the ones of Riddell singing...
[19:57] <Nightrose> they were way too short
[19:58] <apachelogger__> agreed
[19:58]  * nixternal cranks up the Proclaimers
[19:59] <Nightrose> man I am sooo happy to finally have found these two pairs of jeans... - tried like 50 till I found them
[19:59] <apachelogger__> Oo
[20:00]  * apachelogger__ is listening to Moonlight Shadow and Mr. Jones by Amarokers live @ Channel Party [Amarok]
[20:00]  * Nightrose is too short for regular stuff :(
[20:00] <Nightrose> ahhh yea gotta put that on my playlist ;-)
[20:00] <apachelogger__> :D
[20:00] <apachelogger__> rofl
[20:01]  * Nightrose is listening to Moonlight Shadow and Mr. Jones by Amarokers live @ Channel Party [Amarok]
[20:06] <manchicken> Man, I wish I could figure out how to make coffee like they had in Spain.
[20:06] <manchicken> Try as I might, I get close, but can't find a blend that's smooth and creamy like what they had there.
[20:07] <apachelogger__> Nightrose: sounds like someone is dying :D
[20:07] <Nightrose> apachelogger__: our karaoke skills? yea ;-)
[20:08] <Nightrose> we totally rock :P
[20:08] <Nightrose> NOT
[20:08] <Nightrose> but it was _great_ fun
[20:10] <apachelogger__> can't remember :P
[20:10] <apachelogger__> too long ago
[20:10] <Nightrose> ;-)
[20:44] <buz> i'm wondering: is there a particular reason why i see 3 entirely different icon types for folders depending on the icon size? first standard old blue icon, then a blue-greyish and finally at largest size a weird brownish one
[20:48] <_StefanS_> buz: where?
[20:48] <buz> in konqueror3 on hardy
[20:50] <_StefanS_> buz: using view-> Icon size ?
[20:50] <buz> yes
[20:50] <buz> i can provide screenshots if you like
[20:51] <_StefanS_> buz: uhm, i dont see it here
[20:51] <buz> weird
[20:51] <buz> screenshots then
[20:54] <buz> http://img177.imageshack.us/done.php?l=img177/2379/snapshot2yw5.png
[20:54] <buz> http://img233.imageshack.us/done.php?l=img233/1571/snapshot3eb9.png
[20:54] <buz> http://img201.imageshack.us/done.php?l=img201/7492/snapshot4ib8.png
[20:55] <buz> (show image links at the bottom make it original size)
[20:55] <buz> jpatrick: i've just successfully tested the luks integration, thanks a lotè
[20:56] <jpatrick> buz: even the new package recently uploaded?
[20:57] <buz> updated today
[20:57] <buz> only thing is devices connected upon boot still dont work because of some usb storage bug
[20:57] <buz> but that one's well known
[20:59] <jpatrick> buz: bug #186841
[20:59] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 186841 in kdebase "[hardy] Please merge latest version of kio media LUKS support" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186841
[20:59] <jpatrick> hmm... :-/
[21:00] <buz> it did work for me today
[21:00]  * jpatrick hasn't done anything to kdebase recently
[21:00] <buz> but race conditions are notoriously hard to debug
[21:01] <jpatrick> but if it works, it works :-)
[21:03] <buz> just not entirely obvious why it asks to mount it after decrypting but i dont mind it :P
[21:04] <jpatrick> hmm, creepy
[21:04] <buz> well i guess it creates the node in device mapper, then detects it and ask if it should mount it
[21:04] <buz> doesnt seem to do anything bad
[21:05] <buz> works from inside a kde4 session, btw
[21:07] <jpatrick> ScottK: congrats!
[21:07] <ScottK> jpatrick: Thanks
[21:08] <jpatrick> buz: I wonder what caused it to just click
[21:08] <buz> there's been some udev hackery going on i believe
[21:08] <buz> not sure if just clicked today
[21:08] <buz> only today i tested it
[21:08] <nosrednaekim> ScottK jpatrick what happened?
[21:08] <buz> (inadvertently)
[21:09]  * ScottK made core-dev
[21:09] <buz> congrats
[21:09] <jpatrick> nosrednaekim: we have yet another kubuntu core-dev
[21:09] <Nightrose> wohoo congratulations :)
[21:10] <nixternal> congratulations ScottK!
[21:10] <nosrednaekim> excuse my ignorance.... but what is that?
[21:10] <ScottK> Thanks all.
[21:10] <ScottK> nosrednaekim: It's the step after MOTU.  It means I can upload to Main now.
[21:10] <jpatrick> nosrednaekim: people who upload to main
[21:10] <jpatrick> or -backports
[21:10] <nosrednaekim> oooo... wow.
[21:10] <nosrednaekim> sweet
[21:12] <apachelogger__> ScottK: congratulations :)
[21:13] <ScottK> apachelogger__: Thanks.
[21:14] <txwikinger> congrats ScottK
[21:14] <ScottK> txwikinger: Thanks.
[21:15] <vorian> w00t ScottK :)
[21:15] <ScottK> Thanks.
[21:17] <mhb> ScottK: so you're the big core developer now? congratulations
[21:17] <ScottK> Thanks.
[21:17] <mhb> ScottK: should we call you "boss" or something? :o)
[21:17] <ScottK> That's core-packager to you.
[21:17] <mhb> yes, sir
[21:17] <nosrednaekim> hehe
[21:18] <_StefanS_> argh wtf.. sun bought the makers of virtualbox
[21:19] <jpatrick> _StefanS_: and nokia bought trolltech
[21:19] <buz> so thats why virtualbox is being ported to solaris
[21:19] <nosrednaekim> haha.... as son as its ported to solaris...
[21:19] <jpatrick> _StefanS_: btw, please send all kdmtheme patches to upstream
[21:20]  * mhb buys _StefanS_ , film at 11
[21:21] <_StefanS_> jpatrick: sure
[21:22] <jpatrick> _StefanS_: thanks :)
[21:22] <_StefanS_> jpatrick: i need to iron out some stuff in the default button and then I think its ready to go
[21:22] <blizzzek> gn8
[21:23] <jpatrick> wb nixternal
[21:24] <jpatrick> _StefanS_: great to hear :)
[21:24] <_StefanS_> jpatrick: did you hear something from upstream ? :)
[21:24] <_StefanS_> jpatrick: since you want the patches to go there for sure
[21:25] <jpatrick> _StefanS_: I tried last time, but their mail server was down
[21:25] <jpatrick> _StefanS_: the time I got a patch though he accepted it immeditaatly
[21:26] <_StefanS_> jpatrick: nice
[21:28] <nixternal> why thank you...had to reboot the server
[21:42]  * seaLne pokes nixternal with a measuring tape
[21:43] <nixternal> ooh, I forgot to respond...the Large would be to short for me...sorry for not responding
[21:43] <seaLne> ah, thats a pity
[21:43] <nixternal> width wise it sounds fine, but lenght wise and my belly button would be showing :)
[21:43] <seaLne> muffin tops are all the rage with girls in glasgow...
[21:43] <nixternal> hahahahaha
[21:44] <nixternal> not for the men in the US though :p
[21:45] <nosrednaekim> we'd freeze to death here...
[21:45] <nosrednaekim> or, at least our belly buttons would :)
[22:13] <ryanakca> jpatrick: can you please take out the mockup contest link from the channels you have access to?
[22:14] <nosrednaekim> ryanakca➜ have you guys chosen one?
[22:15] <ryanakca> nosrednaekim: unofficially, https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/WebsiteMockups?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=mockup-dmiller.png
[22:16] <nosrednaekim> nice...
[22:17] <nareshov> nixternal's mockup was good (mockup2.svg)
[22:18] <nosrednaekim> yah... I liked the kde4 one..
[22:18] <ryanakca> :)
[22:18] <ryanakca> They're all nice :)
[22:18] <nareshov> :)
[22:18] <mhb> the nicest one is the implemented one
[22:37] <_StefanS_> could someone tell me their opinion on these new buttons ? (only those to the far right..) : http://enhance-it.dk/kwin-crystal.png
[22:37] <_StefanS_> Riddell: if you're there
[22:37] <_StefanS_> Riddell: ^
[22:38] <emonkey> The requested URL /kwin-crystal.png was not found on this server.
[22:38] <_StefanS_> http://enhance-it.dk/pics/kwin-crystal.png
[22:38] <_StefanS_> sorry
[22:38] <mhb> _StefanS_: I like them a bit better than the last ones
[22:39] <mhb> _StefanS_: still, there are some things I don't like, for example how they look sunken when the window is activated
[22:39] <mhb> it feel unnatural, buttons aren't usually sunken
[22:39] <mhb> it kind of seems that all are pressed
[22:39] <_StefanS_> mhb: yes, i'm aware the effect is not that obvious
[22:40] <_StefanS_> mhb: needs to be enhanced slightly
[22:40] <nosrednaekim> side Q, is that kde3 or 4?
[22:41] <mhb> _StefanS_: also, I like when buttons on inactive windows don't stand out too much
[22:41] <mhb> it's not a big deal
[22:41] <_StefanS_> mhb: yep, but else you like it ? :)
[22:41] <mhb> I'd fix the main window first :o)
[22:41] <mhb> if that is good enough, I like it :o)
[22:42] <_StefanS_> cool, I will make a screenshot with a vanilla kubuntu as I wanted it to look.. tomorrow. Now I gotta sleep
[22:42] <mhb> _StefanS_: nighty night
[22:42] <_StefanS_> byeee
[22:42] <_StefanS_> zz
[23:17] <Tonio_> Riddell: kdesudo-kde4 seems to work
[23:18] <Tonio_> Riddell: but appart from kdesudo itself, I'm a bit surprised by a few kdesu-kde4 command line options......
[23:18] <Tonio_> Riddell: how can a "nonewdcop" option exist in kde4 ?
[23:19] <mhb> hmm
[23:19] <mhb> does it really exist?
[23:19] <Tonio_> mhb: try /usr/lib/kde4/lib/kde4/libexec/kdesu --help
[23:19] <Tonio_> mhb: I'm a bit lost on what to do against the command line compatibility....
[23:20] <mhb> hmm
[23:20] <mhb> I don't think it does anything
[23:20] <Tonio_> I think it is just a fake option for scripts compatibility too
[23:21] <Tonio_> so that the option is just ignored
[23:21] <Tonio_> mhb: fancy testing kdesudo-kde4 ?
[23:21] <Tonio_> still a few options on resolving app name, desc and icon
[23:21] <Tonio_> mhb: but it globally works
[23:21] <mhb> Tonio_: perhaps tomorrow morning
[23:21] <mhb> I'm a bit tired today.
[23:21] <mhb> sorry
[23:21] <mhb> Tonio_: how can I test it?
[23:22] <Tonio_> get that deb file :)
[23:22] <mhb> ah, amd64 here anyway
[23:22] <Tonio_> ah.......
[23:22] <Tonio_> then you'll have to wait a bit ;)
[23:28] <Riddell> Tonio_: dunno, look at the code, maybe it does something with dbus (but probably it does nothing)
[23:31] <Tonio_> Riddell: nothing in the code afaik
[23:31] <Tonio_> Riddell: looks like let for compatibility
[23:32] <Tonio_> Riddell: a few issues with kstandarddirs and icon finding, but I globally get good results with the new kdesudo :)
[23:48] <nosrednaekim> hey, how can I get my ubuntu IRC cloak?
[23:52] <vorian> nosrednaekim: join #ubuntu-ops
[23:53] <mhb> supernosrednaekim
[23:54] <nosrednaekim> ?
[23:54] <mhb> supercalifragilisticexplialidonosrednaekim with a cape
[23:54] <nosrednaekim> lol
[23:54] <mhb> a cloak reminds me of superheroes
[23:54] <mhb> for some reason
[23:54] <nosrednaekim> make fun of my long nick will you...
[23:55] <mhb> nosrednaekim: nah, it's cool
[23:55] <mhb> nosrednaekim: mine is unpronouncable