[02:30] evening :) [02:30] howdy [02:30] A [02:30] er.. I meant "ey" [02:30] arr [02:31] :) [02:31] how do you set directories for games? [02:31] like a new kde4 game I stumbled upon :) [02:32] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55664/ [02:35] vorian: dep on libkdegames-dev-kde4? [02:36] oh [02:36] lemme check that [02:36] I just did libkdegames-dev [02:36] hrmm [02:36] LibKDEGamesConfig.cmake is not found anywhere [02:36] * nixternal wonders if that is built on the 4.1 framework? [02:37] hrmm, I cannot find that file anywhere [02:38] :( [02:38] I am quite proud of my copyright file too [02:38] hehe [02:38] w00t [02:39] I am rebuilding with the libkdegames-dev-kde4 [02:39] hrmm [02:39] we'll see how it goes [02:39] FindLibKDEGames.cmake [02:39] something tells me he needs to fix his CMakeLists.txt perhaps [02:40] kdiamond is the source [02:40] ahh, kdiamond..just seen that on kde-apps [02:40] http://kdiamond.ages-skripte.org/ [02:41] dude! [02:42] nixternal: that worked [02:42] kick arse [02:42] groovy [02:43] uploading to revuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu [02:43] :) [02:43] which is funny, because the file it is looking for isn't real :) [02:43] i got a new tv this weekend [02:43] I didn't :( [02:43] I am in heaven [02:43] 50 [02:43] plasma [02:43] I though my wife was going to kill me [02:45] damn [02:45] hahahaha [02:45] she should of === nivek_ is now known as nivek [02:48] hehe [02:49] it's funny because she cant stop playing with it [02:50] I need a new TV myself [02:50] maybe one of these days [02:56] hi guys [02:56] hey jcastro [02:56] hey jcastro [02:57] hey so I missed the kubuntu meeting this saturday (I usually log), can someone point me to irc log or a summary? [02:58] !logs [02:58] Channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - Logs for LoCo channels are at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ - See also « /msg ubotu ircstats » [02:58] :p [02:58] nixternal: ta [02:58] I missed it to, but they highlighted me enough to remind me to scroll up on Saturday to see what I missed [02:59] pretty much Riddell spilt his guts on what he would like to focus on at UDS, 2 new members [02:59] * nixternal hopes that Kevin can stop by Benton Harbor the weekend of Penguicon and pick me up too [03:00] is it me, or is Konqi 4.0.1 worse than 4.0.0? [03:00] it seems to crash a heck of a lot more now [03:00] but at least I can view YouTube now [03:01] I don't see that here. [03:01] nixternal: can you help me out, what's Jussi Kekkonan's nick? [03:01] Jucato: [03:01] err [03:01] jussi01 <<- [03:01] ah, ok, thanks [03:01] no problemo [03:01] nixternal: any idea what time zone he's in? [03:01] groovy, I get a Developer Week break! [03:02] I would like to let him know if he needs help for anything to ping me [03:02] can't say that I do [03:02] nixternal: thanks, I'll pm/email him [03:03] jcastro: you are one nice dude :) [03:03] vorian: it's a character flaw. :p [03:03] haha [03:04] vorian: don't fall for it! [03:04] nixternal: also, let me know about penguicon resources you might need. [03:04] ha! [03:04] beer! [03:04] I will be in Benton Harbor the week leading up to it, so either Kevin can come through and pick me up or I will have to drive up there on my own [03:04] nixternal: not so much, I just wanted to let you know that wolfger should be on your "get on the kubuntu train" list. [03:04] he already is [03:05] good, he's hardcore, if he's not a kubuntu motu by the end of the year then we both suck. [03:05] umm [03:05] end of the year? [03:05] 6 months top! [03:05] summer time, if he isn't a MOTU come the end of summer, then he sucks as much as we do :p [03:06] nixternal: I am playing it safe. Mike is good people, if you want to show up and finish him up for MOTU then beers are on me. [03:06] oh, I am down for that then! [03:06] make Canonical pay for my drunkness :) [03:06] haha, I would love to see the expense report on that one [03:07] that's bribery! [03:07] * vorian hides [03:07] $250 - Pub ("nixternal's pay for helping wolfger become motu, damn he drinks a lot") [03:07] heh, you think I have a trump card, the funds come out of my own pocket. :p [03:07] gotta learn how to play cards then :) [03:07] heh [03:07] awesome! [03:08] when did they put changelogs in PPA? [03:08] couldn't tell ya, haven't looked at my PPA in a while [03:08] vorian: you're not off the hook, we expect a good many possible motu's from ohio. [03:08] jcastro: I'm hardly working at it [03:08] err [03:08] vorian: work harder. [03:08] I mean I'm hard at work on it :) [03:09] heh [03:09] * nosrednaekim never wants to be a MOTU [03:09] sure you do! [03:09] everyone wants to be a MOTU! [03:09] nosrednaekim: why not? [03:09] I want to be a core-dev some day [03:09] pfft [03:09] nosrednaekim: don't be like me and wait 2 years to finally go for MOTU though [03:09] becuase, packing is no fun... [03:10] and never get caught in the "documentation" trap :) [03:10] once you fall in that documentation trap, and there are just 3 of you tops, man it never stops [03:10] that goes for Kubuntu and KDE :/ [03:12] so, how many times can I listen to this Amy Winehouse album today? [03:12] nixternal: I have to go and hit the beer store before it closes, who's the -chi guy for penguicon? [03:12] I need to send some things to him [03:13] nixternal: vorian: also, you guys in for super-midwest packaging jam and bug jams? [03:13] I hear we have an ubuntu room for PC, free beer, etc. etc. [03:13] I guess that would be Eddie Martinez, aka posingaspopular or eddieftw [03:13] jcastro: you know I am down [03:13] so surely you guys can help us our with filling up our ubuntu talks? [03:13] hell ya! [03:13] most definitely [03:13] nixternal: ah, posingaspopular, I'll ping him [03:13] sure [03:13] I have a lot of community, Kubuntu, and KDE lovin' to share :) [03:14] speaking of which, I need to start preparing my talk for Flourish too [03:14] if you pay for my trip to where ever this is... sure [03:14] talks talks talks. [03:14] hehe [03:14] Hobbsee: talks are fun! [03:14] pity it's in the wrong timezone [03:14] nixternal: can you do me a favor, if you want me to come can you mail me about it? jorge@ubuntu.com [03:14] I can come, just need to be reminded [03:14] will do, I will also make sure Kevin bugs you as well :) [03:15] nixternal: I will bring the michigan crew with me [03:15] Flourish is 2 weeks before Penguicon [03:15] why isn't this showing up? [03:15] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=kdiamond-kde4 [03:15] give it a few minute [03:15] s [03:15] revu can be a slow poke [03:15] arrg [03:16] I am waiting for another app to update on revu so I can upload it [03:18] does it need fixing? [03:19] revu or my package :) [03:20] revu [03:20] packaging broke my app..... I just spent an hour fixing it.... [03:20] heh [03:20] it looks like other packages are getting directories [03:20] my first upload was without an orig.tar.gz [03:21] maybe that broke it [03:21] hrmm, I thought dput would bug out if yu didn't have an orig.tar.gz [03:21] Uploading to revu (via ftp to revu.tauware.de): [03:21] kdiamond-kde4_0.1-0ubuntu1.dsc: done. [03:21] kdiamond-kde4_0.1-0ubuntu1.tar.gz: done. [03:21] kdiamond-kde4_0.1-0ubuntu1_source.changes: done. [03:21] Successfully uploaded packages. [03:22] 'yu' that's cute [03:23] glad you thought so :p [03:24] nixternal: if you want a sneak peek http://ppa.launchpad.net/vorian/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdiamond-kde4/ [03:24] :P [03:24] So it's been a while since I booked Feisty. Only 157 updates. [03:24] ouch [03:25] booked/booted anyway. [03:25] then again, i will admit that many updates in *buntu are way quicker than half of those updates in Windows [03:25] Unfortunately one of the is OOO. [03:25] But even with that, I'm up to 60 already [03:26] ya, I hate seeing an OO.o update myself...reminds me of a service pack for windows [03:26] meh..... who else thinks mac OS is ugly... [03:26] * nixternal does [03:26] err [03:26] * nixternal doesn't [03:26] it isn't ugly, it is just stupid [03:27] just looking at a screen shot here, and the folders look very.... gnomish... [03:27] you mean gnome looks very os xish [03:27] * txwikinger is reminded at Atari [03:28] * Jucato is reminded of coreymon... [03:28] nixternal: can you nuke that package so I can re-upload it? [03:28] yeah,well, same thing... they are both ugly (default GNOME, human actually looks decent) [03:28] vorian: just reupload [03:28] Didn't Atari have a nuke when it would crash? [03:28] it will overwrite whats there anyways [03:28] just rm *.upload [03:29] werd [03:31] later guys... [03:36] hmm [03:36] there is something wrong [03:37] i got the email saying it was accepted, yet it's not found in revu [03:40] did you upload it to ppa? [03:43] Hobbsee: yes [03:43] my ppa at least [03:43] well, that's why it's not on revu yet, isn't it... [03:44] um, [03:44] I uploaded to both [03:45] Hobbsee: Thinking about the mail about the PPA today that you and I replied to, I'm considering a mail to ubuntu-devel subject PPAs considered harmful to Ubuntu brand identity. [03:46] ScottK: it'll certainly promote discussion. CC LP users [03:46] * ScottK isn't subscribed to LP users. It'd just get moderated. [03:46] ScottK: i can poke matt revell to let it thru [03:47] Maybe if I'm not to tired after I get done with clamav security patches. === \sh_away is now known as \sh === \sh is now known as \sh_away === uga is now known as uga|away [07:33] nixternal: jcastro Im Jussi Schultink, Jussi Kekkonen is Tm_T [07:33] * Jucato scrolls up [07:34] oh hahah! I did't even notice that :) [07:34] :) [07:34] jussi01: so now, not only are you mistaken for me (and vice versa), but also with Tm_T :) [07:35] Jucato: I wonde who Ill get next :P [07:35] jussi01: make sure you don't get Hobbsee... or you'll be sorry :) [07:35] LOL [07:35] * jussi01 hugs Hobbsee [07:35] * Hobbsee comes stalking around [07:36] hello there Hobbsee :) [07:36] Hobbsee!!!! [07:36] hiya! [07:36] * Hobbsee shines her red eyes around [07:36] red.... eyes...?? [07:36] * Jucato gets the eyedrops... [07:36] are they itchy? [07:36] Hobbsee: lack of sleep? [07:36] no? [07:36] too much alchol? [07:37] :P [07:37] * Jucato gets the wooden stake and the revolver with silver bullets [07:37] * jussi01 warns Jucato to watch out for the pointy stick of doom [07:37] evilness [07:37] bwahah :) [07:37] clearly you arent' a harry potter fan! [07:37] Hobbsee: nope [07:37] I am/was/but forgot details [07:38] you suck. [07:38] LOL [07:38] speaking of which... my sister hasn't yet returned my HP books which she gave me for my birthdays, which she then borrowed, which she hasn't returned yet, [07:39] gah!! she has the ones that matter!! books 5 and 7 [07:40] hah [07:40] http://eikke.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/wtfm.jpg [07:40] * jussi01 wonders how often -devel channels look like this...LOL [07:40] this one/ often [07:41] jussi01: look like what? [07:41] Hobbsee: love the cartoon [07:41] yeah :) [07:41] ah look like that? [07:41] my email's gonna implode by the time i get back :( [07:42] get back from? [07:42] oooh!!! Hobbsee's red eyes: http://photos.streamphoto.ru/5/f/3/3c7f890532acb9c9378372de22c3b3f5.jpg :D [07:42] adelaide [07:43] haha [07:44] Jucato: nice one === \sh_away is now known as \sh [08:24] My spidey sense is tingling... I sense nixternal and jcastro plotting about me... [09:12] <_StefanS_> kwwii: ping? [09:14] hi there [10:08] _StefanS_: pong [10:09] _StefanS_: nope, I didn't get around to the buttons...been working on another project for work [10:09] <_StefanS_> kwwii: ah ok, can you make it before thursday? [10:09] <_StefanS_> kwwii: I would really like to get them in before ff [10:10] _StefanS_: not sure...it depends on how long this other stuff takes [10:11] _StefanS_: send me an email with an explanation of exactly what you want [10:11] <_StefanS_> kwwii: ok, maybe i can get some help then.. maybe nuno can do it? [10:16] _StefanS_: I am sure he could do it if you can convince him ;-) [10:16] <_StefanS_> kwwii: he already accepted :) [10:17] hehe, cool [10:32] hmm? [10:33] jcastro: hi [10:39] jussi01: ping [10:39] hehe, Daddy Tm_T has arrived :D [10:40] Tm_T: hi [10:40] idea what was it about? [10:40] !seen blueyed [10:40] Sorry, I don't know anything about seen blueyed - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [10:41] !seen | xRaich[o]2x [10:41] xRaich[o]2x: The seen function has not been operational for a long time. Use /msg seenserv seen nickname instead. [10:41] jussi01: Thanks :) [10:41] Tm_T: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55702/ [10:41] jussi01: thanks [10:41] * jussi01 feels good, everyone is saying thanks :D [10:42] jussi01: thanks [10:42] hehe [10:42] <_StefanS_> kwwii: do you by any chance have the symbols inside the buttons somewhere? [10:42] <_StefanS_> kwwii: else nuno has to make them by hand [10:42] jussi01: interesting, I wonder what did I do this time [10:44] hahahha, Tm_T [10:46] jussi01: prolly something bad and illegal, so better to hide, see you kids later -> [10:47] hehe === apache|mobile is now known as apachelogger === never|mobi is now known as neversfelde|mobi [12:55] <_StefanS_> kwwii: btw, it was okay with djmattricks to darken the wallpaper a bit if we like that [12:55] <_StefanS_> kwwii: it might be a good idea since it outshines the icons a bit when in default (light) colors [13:13] _StefanS_: cool, that shouldn't be too hard either [13:23] <_StefanS_> kwwii: could you fix that part maybe ? nuno has created the buttons already [13:28] wow [13:28] I got my adsl back [13:55] _StefanS_: yeah, I'll give it a whack later tonight [13:55] <_StefanS_> kwwii: cool [13:56] <_StefanS_> kwwii: you can see what he did here: http://enhance-it.dk/pics/ [13:57] <_StefanS_> Riddell: the new win deco icons ^ [13:57] :o [13:57] hrm, they are not transparent though [13:57] umm, who was our adept guy? [13:57] so if you change your window deco color it will look funky [13:57] What do you mean? : - ) [13:58] actually, they look like the ones from edgy :p [13:58] nnnnngh [13:58] why that shiny thing everywhere [13:58] <_StefanS_> kwwii: already told him, he will correct it later on [13:58] * Tm_T hides [13:58] _StefanS_: here is a quick gimp job making the wallpaper a bit darker: http://sinecera.de/darker1.png [13:58] <_StefanS_> kwwii: better than nothing I think [13:59] cool [13:59] <_StefanS_> kwwii: looks quite good [14:02] <_StefanS_> kwwii: did you saturate it? [14:11] _StefanS_: actually, I desaturated it a bit :-) [14:12] <_StefanS_> kwwii: oh ok [14:12] Tm_T: Sup? [14:20] mornfall: hi :) [14:20] Hi. [14:21] mornfall: something I can help you with or just wanted to remember me? [14:21] * Tm_T is bit lost atm [14:22] Tm_T: You were asking about some adept guy. [14:23] aaah :)) [14:23] mornfall: just wondered where is current "trunk" [14:23] and if there is something I can test etc [14:24] Tm_T: http://anna.fi.muni.cz/~xrockai/adept-3/ [14:25] danke [14:25] That's darcs get [14:25] hey folks [14:25] hi there [14:25] Tm_T: Also, https://launchpad.net/~me-mornfall/+archive [14:26] mornfall: I expect a first release of kdesudo-kde4 toonight, so that adept might eventually work :) [14:30] * ScottK likes the restart required swirly for the updater. [14:34] hey, Ubuntu Derivatives is having an open-week session, you want me to sign up myself to do a little presentation? [14:34] Riddell: I noticed that the kdesu binary was removed from kde4 packages ? only -dbg packages have it [14:34] Riddell: is that wanted purpose ? [14:35] Tonio_: not that I know of [14:35] nosrednaekim: presentation of what? [14:36] Riddell: okay so it looks like packaging issue [14:36] well, they just want what the derivative's goals are and a little bit about what makes it different. [14:37] ] [14:38] Riddell: hum, I'm wrong, not any kde4 package has kdesu in it [14:39] Riddell: ho ! usr/lib/kde4/lib/kde4/libexec/kdesu [14:39] Riddell: that's the new path for soem binaries ? [14:39] Tonio_: right, for binaries which aren't called by users [14:39] Riddell: Would you please binary New gpsd 2.36-2 so I can get the rebuilds started? [14:39] Riddell: the problem is that "where kdesu" reports it is in /usr/bin [14:40] Riddell: isn't that the reson kdesu doesn't work on kde' ? /usr/bin is probably prior in the path to that path right ? [14:40] I don't know, wouldn't have thought so [14:41] ScottK: accepted [14:41] Riddell: Thanks. [14:42] should we keep adding -kde4 to new kde4 packages [14:42] BTW, I just upgraded gutsy -> hardy with apt-get distupgrade with no problems at all. [14:42] Except I spelled it right when I did it. [14:43] ACPI works again on this box. Very nice. [14:45] vorian: if there's an existing kde 3 package yes, otherwise I don't really mind [14:45] vorian: any progress on marble? [14:45] Riddell: I plan on hammering that out today [14:46] Riddell: it's got some weird path permissions issues [14:47] Hi Devs? Have you seen gtk-kde4 package? [14:47] http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/gtk-kde4?content=74689&PHPSESSID=1c3dbbc331c6c58d3d30e5383552e4c1 [14:47] gtk-kde4? [14:47] what's that? [14:47] Yep. [14:47] is it the reimplementation of GTK using Qt libraries we all are waiting for? [14:47] Allows you to change GTK style in KDE 4 and change font of GTK applications. [14:48] yeah, I pulled that earlier today [14:48] gtk controls for KDE4 then? [14:48] nice.... now we just need qt3-kde4.... [14:48] I knew you will like it. ;-) [14:49] sahin_w: have you installed the source package? [14:49] * Tm_T likes some sugar with his coffee [14:49] vorian: Yes, I tested it at the last weekend. [14:49] i love the quote "it makes my firefox look pretty again" [14:49] sahin_w: how did you like it? [14:50] vorian: yes, this is why I like it. I use firfox on my KDE4 desktop. [14:50] Tonio_: kdesudo for testing, me wanna? [14:50] * apachelogger_ votes for personas :P [14:50] vorian: This is promising app [14:50] lemme see how it shapes up then [14:50] * vorian builds it for kicks [14:50] http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/snapshot88.png <-- way to go :P [14:51] vorian: Maybe some love needed for it, but will rock very soon. I hope... [14:52] Tm_T: not yet, you'll have to wait a bit ;) [14:53] sahin_w: did you use 0.3.3 or 0.4b? [14:53] vorian: I've tested version 0.3.3 [14:54] lets see how this works in amd64 [14:57] sahin_w: it seems there is no copyright with this package [14:57] vorian: I did not check the package for copyrights. [14:59] vorian: In this case... maybe a good idea to add a comment on the www.kde-apps.org site. [14:59] :) [15:00] vorian: Do you have an account on that site? [15:00] yep [15:02] vorian: So, will you add a comment? ;-) [15:02] I sent him a pm [15:02] vorian: Ok, great! [15:04] meh.... doesn't seem to work.... [15:05] oh wait... where is the info on applying kde3 styles to gtk apps stored? === hunger_t_ is now known as hunger [15:06] how I hate waiting for the exam results... :o( [15:07] Tonio_: Good, good. [15:10] mhb: I had state exams last Monday... : - P. [15:11] (Bachelors, so written.) [15:12] mornfall: did it go well? [15:12] Yes, quite well. [15:12] great [15:15] mornfall: congratulations [15:15] Well, I don't have the results yet ; - ). [15:15] But hopefully it goes well. [15:15] So, thanks. [15:15] And I gotta go now, so see you later. [15:17] ouch.... that really messed up kde4 compositing [15:18] and it dod not fix any of my gtk apps. [15:21] nosrednaekim: Well I encountered some problem too, because previously I use the qt-gtk-engine from KDE3. [15:21] sahin_w➜ how did you fix that? [15:21] nosrednaekim: I deleted all of the gtkrc files (backup first!). [15:22] nosrednaekim: ... and I run the gtk-kde4 again. [15:22] * nosrednaekim did the same.... but without any backups :) [15:22] nosrednaekim: You're the man! ;-) [15:22] but it still doesn't work. The app itself is in kde4 style, but firefox, audacity., etc are not. [15:25] nosrednaekim: No-no. This apps configure gtk apps, but you have to choose a gtk engine from the list. [15:25] nosrednaekim: So gtk apps won't looks like a KDE4 apps until you create/install an oxygen like gtk engine. [15:26] nosrednaekim: For example here's an oxygen theme for gtk apps: [15:26] nosrednaekim: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/yet+another+OXYGEN+style+for+Gnome?content=64748 [15:27] nosrednaekim: You have to install this theme first. [15:27] sahin_w➜ right... I installed the "qt4" theme, which uses the current kde4 theme (I thought)... [15:28] but i'll install this too... [15:44] <_StefanS_> kwwii: did you have time to fix the win deco "glassy" image to be used on the window titles? [15:45] _StefanS_: as the buttons are not transparent that image will have to fit with them so it would be better if nuno made it since he made the buttons [15:57] <_StefanS_> kwwii: alright [16:03] Riddell: thanks for the backport :) [16:06] new queue down below 200 entries! [16:22] smarter: I'm merging oxygencursors [16:25] apachelogger_: merging with what? [16:25] apachelogger_: thanks ;) [16:26] Riddell: with the package I made long ago [16:26] apachelogger_: I'm really busy this week :S [16:26] ok, new kde4 package in the hopper http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=kdiamond-kde4 [16:27] hopper? [16:27] um, its a farming term :) [16:27] bin [16:27] lol [16:27] silo [16:27] a hopper is where grain is stored :) [16:29] Riddell: smarter's package, which is using more reasonable names and puts the white theme in an own package ... gotta talk to pusling later on, since debian should probably adopt these changes [16:32] mornin' [16:32] ahoy nixternal [16:32]