Agent_bobsub[t]rnl but yes. one can use [ ! -z blah ]  or  [ blah ]  entercanagably      or  [ -z blah ]  and  [ ! blah ]   enterchangably00:00
frank23mefisto__: on what card did you compare that?00:00
frank23mefisto__: I've got 2 hauppauge pvr-150s00:00
Arwenactually, digital TV in America is pretty bad too. Dunno about Europe and Asia, probably the same there too.00:01
Agent_bobsub[t]rnl cleanest ???   not sure.   i know several ways to get there.  but the cleanest would be questionable.  probably an array00:01
Arwen(dtv encourages people to encode at really low bitrates)00:01
sub[t]rnlAgent_bob➜ yeah, trying to avoid bash arrays until I really need it.00:01
CrashedI just speed up the fps 2x00:01
CrashedClosed captions made it *much* slower.00:02
CrashedTurned it off, and it's nice and smooth now.00:02
mefisto__frank23: give it a try. probably the vcr tuner will be better, but I don't know about your card specifically00:02
frank23mefisto__: what card do you have?00:02
gary_I can't believe this.. I enter the wrong password in Kmail, but it still says Transmission complete, No new messages.00:02
Agent_bobQ=("$@") ;your_var=${Q[5-9]}   or however the syntax is.00:03
jussi01!wtf | gary_00:03
ubotugary_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.00:03
mefisto__product: Bt878 Video Capture. vendor: Brooktree Corporation. the box it came in said "pixelview playTV"00:03
gary_What the fork?00:04
Agent_bobis you want to avoid an array and don't mind external commands    your_var="`echo "$@" | cut -d' ' -f5-9`"00:04
mefisto__where's the food?00:04
Agent_bobbut that's not "clean"  by any means.00:04
sub[t]rnlAgent_bob➜ ok, it still gets it there.  I know some worry about extra |'s spawning commands, but its ok for now00:05
Agent_bobhey i have to run.    be back later tho.00:05
frank23mefisto__: ok00:06
MrJigsawHello, how do i install a nvidia driver after downloading ? :)00:07
sub[t]rnl!nv | MrJigsaw try to use the repositories00:08
ubotuMrJigsaw try to use the repositories: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto00:08
MrJigsawWhy wont anything work in linux ;@00:15
cpk1looks like your internet is working?00:15
mefisto__is there anything linux that can create dvd menus (apart from qdvdauthor and mandvd)?00:15
MrJigsawcpk1: thats allso the only thing.. i cant get nvidia or sound working ;@00:15
purpleposeidonWhat's the easiest ftp server that I can use, like sudo apt-get install $ftpserverthing && ftp `whoami`@localhost?00:15
cpk1MrJigsaw: what nvidia card you have?00:17
adz21cmefisto__: well there is dvdauthor (which is what qdvdauthor is the gui for) you could try using it directly00:18
purpleposeidonexcepting that that's not how you run ftp.. :/00:18
diamond5pam    Đe je zrno klicu zametnulo,00:18
diamond5pam    onde neka i plodom počine.00:18
diamond5pam    je li instinkt al' duhovni vođa,00:18
diamond5pam    Ovde ljudsko zapire poznanje!00:18
diamond5pam    Vuk na ovcu svoje pravo ima00:18
diamond5pam    ka tirjanin na slaba čovjeka.00:18
diamond5pam    Al' tirjanstvu stati nogom za vrat,00:18
MrJigsawplease stop spamming ?00:18
diamond5pam    dovesti ga k poznaniju prava,00:18
hydrogenat least he let us know that he was 5pamming00:19
fitoriaI have a GRUB error 24 after a bad shutdown00:19
fitoriahow can I fix it00:20
MrJigsawso uhm, cpk1, can you help? :)00:20
fitoriaI have tried reinstaling grub00:20
frank23Is there an easy way to get a wifi connection on WPA encrypted network when I boot before logging in?00:21
frank23Right I use knetwork manager and it doesn't connect until I login00:21
CrashedHey guys, would it be able to install windows without using a cd/flash/other bootable?00:21
Crashedwould I*00:21
purpleposeidonfrank23: iwconfig might do what you want00:22
cpk1MrJigsaw: I am pretty sure that card is supported, you need to install the restricted modules (and maybe the headers for the kernel) of whatever kernel you are using and then install the nvidia driver, should be pretty straightforward, here is some documentation00:22
cpk1!nvidia | MrJigsaw00:22
ubotuMrJigsaw: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto00:22
MrJigsaw7950GT isent supported :|00:23
frank23purpleposeidon: what about WPA?00:23
sub[t]rnlfrank23➜ you can use wpa_supplicant00:24
sub[t]rnl!wireless > frank2300:26
MrJigsawHow do i open a nvidia driver, kubuntu says ive installed one :) ?00:27
frank23sub[t]rnl: purpleposeidon: bah... it's not that important. My question was: Is there an 'easy' way   ;-)00:28
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »00:28
purpleposeidonfrank23: Mice are hard.00:28
frank23purpleposeidon: hehe00:29
sub[t]rnlwpa_supplicant is fairly painless.  Just setup the network essid in the /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf and start it with an init script00:29
sub[t]rnlfrank23➜ have you looked at kwifimanager?00:30
MrJigsawChould anyone tell me how to open the nvidia driver ? :)00:30
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto00:31
frank23sub[t]rnl: no. is that equivalent to knetwork-manager00:31
MrJigsawi wanna know how to open it, WHEN INSTALLED :)00:31
sub[t]rnlfrank23➜ two different apps00:31
biovorealt-f2 type in nvidia-settings00:31
frank23sub[t]rnl: yeah but what is the difference?00:32
sub[t]rnlnot sure, have a looksie00:32
frank23sub[t]rnl: ok00:32
MrJigsawThanks biovore :)00:33
MrJigsawDual-View isent that good supported in linux yet, i see.00:34
biovoreit is.. but you have to do something in xorg.conf to setup dual-view00:35
biovoreno gui for setting it up..00:35
MrJigsawWell, there was a gui :)00:35
MrJigsawBut when i max kvirc on second screen it fills out both screens :)00:35
biovoreyeah.. xineorama setting00:36
MrJigsawSo how do i make Amarok capable of playing mp3, WMA and FLAC  ? :D00:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mediaubuntu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:36
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats00:36
MrJigsawuh, and how do i make FireFox default browser ? :D00:37
IppatsuManMrJigsaw: Alt+f2 -> type kcontrol and press enter -> KDE Components -> Default Applications -> Web Browser00:38
Stoogei hope this is an ok question. i have a 64bit system running vista 32 bit, i an going to install Kubuntu on and duel boot. should i install the 64bit or 32bit Kubuntu, which is better?00:39
biovoredosn't really matter.. life is easier for beginners with the 32bit version.. (some things are busted on 64bit)00:40
MrJigsawAnd now im  at all these starters questions, do anyone know why kvirc makes åæø squares? And how do i fix? :)00:40
biovoreHas to do with the unicode language settings00:41
XceIIIs there a room for (hardy)?00:41
Stoogewhat is busted on the 64bit? is it the nvidia drivers?00:41
MrJigsawthanks biovore, i think i got it now :)=00:41
frank23XceII: yes #ubuntu+100:42
XceIIthanks frank, by the way, hardy alpha $ rocks00:42
XceIIhave a good day folks00:43
MrJigsawits 01:42 at my place.. kinda going to sleep soon ;P00:45
Stoogedoes anyone know what problems on the 64bit Kubuntu before install??? please.00:46
biovorebasicly anything closed source00:46
biovorethey can work.. but its extra work to get them working..00:47
Stoogethats all??00:47
biovoremultimedia codecs00:47
biovoresome of them have problems on 64bit00:47
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biovoreThe only real reason for 64bit is if your running 4GB or more..00:48
Stoogeok 32bit it will be. i am real good in windows but i am learning linux and have found it easier so far, don't care to take chances though. thanks for the help...:)00:49
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CrashedHey, is there an app that'll tell me the CPU temp, fan speeds, etc?00:53
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biovoreCrashed: Depends if your bios and hardware sensers are supported.00:56
CrashedThey are.00:56
biovoreI have seen some super karamba stuff that displays that stuff00:56
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »01:05
stratman4300what is the command to restart kicker???01:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kicker - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:07
MrJigsawHow come FireFox allways has troubles openning secure sites @ Kubuntu? :)01:09
biovorewhat do you mean by trouble?01:11
MrJigsawit cant01:12
MrJigsawit just stops all the time ;/01:12
biovoreworks here...01:12
MrJigsawfor example, this site: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865 it loades up, says done and goes in white screen01:14
oloughlin75Is there a way to speed up amarok? Whenever I edit trak information, it takes a while before its reflected in the list01:20
MrJigsawi dont think amarok kan handle  51k songs ;-/01:21
oloughlin75I only have 3k!01:22
MrJigsawIt definetly cant handle 51k songs though01:22
MrJigsawdamn its slow ;>01:22
oloughlin75there a way to speed it up when I edit track information?01:23
oloughlin75I edited like 3 albums and its had the circle busy icon for like 5 minutes01:23
biovoreMrJigsaw: takes a while to open each song and read the ID3 tags01:23
biovoreand input them into a database01:24
MrJigsawit sure does :)01:24
MrJigsawIs koffeine better at handeling many files ?01:25
biovoreonce it builds the database its fast01:26
biovoreonly have to do it once..01:26
MrJigsawWhere is the sound options in kubuntu ?01:26
Daisuke_Idoamarok can handle 51k songs easily01:28
Daisuke_Ido...but not with sqlite :\01:28
MrJigsawsqlite? :)01:28
oloughlin75who has 51k songs?01:28
MrJigsawI do01:29
MrJigsawget lost dude ;P01:29
Daisuke_IdoMrJigsaw: you're going to have to use mysql01:29
oloughlin75i would get lost with that much music01:29
MrJigsawchould problably be counted on 2 hands how many legal CD's ive got ;)01:29
Daisuke_Ido51k copies of 'in rainbows' that he legally paid $0.00 for01:29
Daisuke_Idothere we go01:29
ubotupiracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o01:30
MrJigsawhehe lol01:30
oloughlin75too much to choose from01:30
Daisuke_Idoyeah, mysql is the answer.  simple if you can follow directions :)01:30
MrJigsawi think its working all right now :)01:30
oloughlin75How do I make amarok update so it reflects recent track information changes?01:30
biovoretell it to rescan.01:31
oloughlin75and wait..............01:31
Daisuke_Idothis is why you don't use sqlite.01:31
biovorerescan will just pick up the changes01:31
oloughlin75what do you use?01:32
biovoreI use mysql on the backend here..01:32
biovoreI have a fairly large collection here..01:32
oloughlin75is it noticeably better than sqlite?01:32
biovoreI pull them all off network storage..01:32
Daisuke_Idomysql, 35k+01:32
biovoresqlite has limits01:32
Daisuke_Idonoticably?  it blows sqlite out of the water.01:32
biovoremysql is an actual database server..01:33
oloughlin75i will look how to set it up01:33
biovoresqlite is a file on the disk..01:33
oloughlin75i did a rescan and it didnt fix the tracks that i changed....01:33
MrJigsawuhm, if i download a tar.gz file, how do i run it ?01:34
biovoretar.gz are like a zipfile01:34
Daisuke_Idoi'm afraid to ask what you downloaded, considering we're discussing amarok and mysel01:35
Daisuke_Idomysql, even01:35
MrJigsawIts legal01:35
MrJigsawits aMSN :)01:35
Daisuke_Idodon't bother01:35
Daisuke_Idojust go with pidgin :D01:35
sub[t]rnluse the repo's01:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about amsn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:35
Daisuke_Ido!info amsn01:35
ubotuamsn (source: amsn): An MSN messenger written in Tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.97RC1+dfsg-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 3371 kB, installed size 10956 kB01:35
MrJigsawi dont like pidgin that much..01:36
Daisuke_IdoMrJigsaw: imma let you in on a little secret concerning *buntu.  the repos are your friend :D01:36
MrJigsawrepos ? :)01:36
oloughlin75Blah, now the 40 tracks dont have my changes01:37
sub[t]rnlMrJigsaw➜ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories01:38
sub[t]rnlread up on that.01:38
oloughlin75Amarok isnt letting me change track information......01:40
MrJigsawThat dident help me much in my seeking in how i use the file? :D01:44
oloughlin75does anyone know why? I cant even change a single track...01:44
MrJigsawIve been trying apt-cache search, and apt-get install, but install finds an old one and search finds nothing ;/01:44
sub[t]rnlMrJigsaw➜ it should have made you realize that the application you are after is probably in the repo's.  And installing a pre packaged .deb from the repositories is as simple as sudo apt-get amsn rather than unzipping and compiling anything from source01:45
Daisuke_Idosudo apt-get install amsn*01:46
MrJigsawcompiling dude.. i got kubuntu first time TODAY :/01:46
oloughlin75MrJigsaw: what are you trying to do?01:47
MrJigsawInstalling the newest build of aMSN01:48
onesandzeroshello all.  Any of you guys know how I can see all the make targets in the kernel?  I'm building from source and need a little refresher on how it all works.01:48
oloughlin75in the terminal type: sudo apt-get install amsn*01:48
MrJigsawIve done that ffs..01:48
MrJigsawBut its an OLD build..01:48
oloughlin75you have to download it and compile it than01:49
sub[t]rnlpackages in the repositories aim at stability over bleeding edge.  If there isn't an absolute reason you need the latest, stick with simplicity (especially if your new)01:49
MrJigsawHow do i compile i then ? :)01:49
MrJigsawWell.. this one is looking shit, like it dosent support my high resulotion01:50
oloughlin75MrJigsaw: cd to the directory, sudo ./configure, sudo make, and finally sudo make install01:50
ubotuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.01:50
sub[t]rnlno need to sudo ./configure or make01:50
Daisuke_Idoand what's so different between the two?01:50
Daisuke_Idorepos: .9701:50
Daisuke_Idosite: .9701:51
Daisuke_Idookay, i will say the repo version is a release candidate01:51
MrJigsawcSo how do i find the directory ?01:51
Daisuke_Idobut major features don't materialize between a release candidate and a final.01:52
oloughlin75wherver you downloaded and extracted01:52
MrJigsawI kinda just let it go press y when needen ;P01:52
MrJigsawoh fuck it, guess ill just use pidgin :)01:53
Daisuke_Ido!ohmy | MrJigsaw, ONCE again01:56
ubotuMrJigsaw, ONCE again: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.01:56
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oloughlin75Does anybody know if the linux eclipse uses the same files for the workspace as the windows version?01:58
ses59_I am trying to run kvm and load a winxp but every command that I found on the internet none would work01:58
geoff270Hello. Anyone solved problem of adding/remove drives with resulting mis-ordering/loading of drives, next boot02:01
geoff270@ sdc1 becomes sdd1, so need to edit fstab, etc, every time add/remove drives02:02
sub[t]rnldoes the same thing happen if you use the drives UUID in fstab?02:02
sub[t]rnltry ex. blkid /dev/sda2 then using that as the /dev/ entry in your fstab02:04
geoff270haven't used uuid in fstab02:04
sub[t]rnli'm pretty sure that will solve your troubles02:05
oloughlin75whats a good java ide?02:06
geoff270thank you02:08
billytwowillyanybody know the technical name for that 4 pin power connector on the back of most portable hard drives?02:30
Dr_willisthe molex conector?02:30
Dr_willis4 pin, white plastic,  bevels on 2 corners. :)02:31
billytwowillyI dunno, it's round.02:31
billytwowillyblack, inlayed in the case of the portable hard drive.02:31
Dr_willisround? Hmm.. That sounds like a Power supply connector.02:31
billytwowillyIt has a 5 V , a 12 V and 2 ground wires.02:31
billytwowillyyah, it would be.02:31
billytwowillyI need the more technical name.02:31
Dr_willisThat can vary dependng on the brand of portable hd/enclosuer02:31
billytwowillyI'm trying to find a dc-dc car lighter power adaptor for it.02:31
Dr_willisI got like 5 different portable hd's and they all got different conectors.02:32
meI feel stupid, but why did my Gutsy installation CD use LILO instead of Grub?02:32
Dr_willisProberly be best to get a dc-ac adaptor and use the one that came with the hd.02:32
billytwowillylame. So I'm probably stuck going with the incredibly hackish dc-ac-dc route.02:32
Dr_willisif the thing wants 5v and 12v - you aint going to get both from the cig. lighter. :)02:32
HarikHi Guys I have a question for the ssh-professionals :D           How can I connect through a gateway-server to another server using  fish ?02:32
Dr_willisnot without some other bits.02:33
billytwowillyok, that's too bad, but I'll do it. how many watts you think I need for a hard drive? 75 enough?02:33
Dr_willisId think thats plenty02:34
billytwowillyok, off to canadian tire.02:34
Dr_willisMy car has a AC plug allready built in. :)02:34
Dr_williswish all the car makers would do that.02:34
billytwowillyIs it a 2007 civic?02:34
billytwowillymaybe mine has one.. I just got it Saturday...02:35
billytwowillyAlso, how do I look for a library in a package with adept?02:35
Dr_willisNope. Dodge ram truck.    ive seen them sort of 'hidden' inside the center console, or right at the base of the console and so on.02:35
Dr_willisI just do 'apt-cache search library name'02:35
Dr_willis!find libsdl02:36
ubotuFound: libsdl-image1.2, libsdl-image1.2-dev, libsdl-mixer1.2, libsdl-mixer1.2-dev, libsdl-ttf2.0-0 (and 28 others)02:36
billytwowilly!find libutempter02:36
ubotuPackage/file libutempter does not exist in gutsy02:36
billytwowillydoesn't show up.02:36
Dr_willisIt may not be in the repos.02:36
billytwowillyhmm. How does the transkode plugin work on amarok on my server, but not on my laptop?;)02:36
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billytwowillyhmm. I bet I didn't have the cbinding for tag lib installed.02:38
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stratman4300has anyone installed any of the KDE4 packages yet??02:49
nosrednaekimstratman4300➜ sure02:50
sub[t]rnlyes sir02:50
stratman4300does it install pretty cleanly next to KDE3....  no breakage??02:50
sub[t]rnlindeed.  I've only found a couple instances in file association that a kde4 app was called instead of a kde3.02:51
sub[t]rnlnothing that wasn't easily fixed.02:51
nosrednaekimstratman4300➜ works really well here.02:51
stratman4300cool.... think i might try it out tonight....  thanks for the info =)02:52
Agent_bobwell if there is no linux issues to solve    maybe i'll play a game or something.02:53
sub[t]rnlhehe, might be a quite night02:54
Agent_bobwell i could break something....02:55
sub[t]rnlgoing through your code Agent_bob, and sipping some wine02:55
sub[t]rnlgood times :>02:55
* Agent_bob 's code was not writen in wine02:55
Agent_bobwine is wine is not an emulator02:55
* nosrednaekim wants to hack ruckus into running in WINE02:56
thomas_newbie__why does this command give me "NO SUCH FILE OR DIRECTORY" error? --->sudo find . -name '*.c' -exec "grep -i [ass]" '{}' \;02:57
sub[t]rnlthe only time I run anything in wine is when its dropped in my glass..02:57
sub[t]rnl /endjoke02:57
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: haha02:57
sub[t]rnlthomas_newbie__➜ perhaps none of your .c's have "ass" in it?02:58
Agent_bobthomas_newbie__ cause you have no .c files in the pwd or any subdirs ?02:58
Agent_bobthomas_newbie__ actually it's a syntax error02:58
Agent_bob -exec "grep -i [ass]"  <<<< can not execute  "grep -i [ass]"02:59
thomas_newbie__Agent_bob: why02:59
Agent_bobbecause there is no file named  "grep -i [ass]"02:59
Agent_bobtouch  "grep -i [ass]" ; chmod 755  "grep -i [ass]"03:00
Agent_bobnow you can execute it.03:00
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sub[t]rnlthomas_newbie__➜ hehe, he's telling you to take the quotes off it03:01
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: haha yea03:01
thomas_newbie__got it :S03:01
Agent_bobin that case you're welcome.03:03
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: shoot its not giving me the words :( sudo find . -name '*.c' -exec grep -i [fuk] '{}' \;          /////spelt correctly :S03:06
Agent_bobsingle quote your search string03:07
Agent_boband why are you running it as root ?03:07
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ses59_if you uninstall kde 4 and it will not boot correctly look at installing kdm again with apt-get03:07
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* Agent_bob wonders what kdm has to do with booting...03:08
ses59_i tried kde 4 but uninstalled after problems and kde 3 did not work till i installed kdm again03:08
ses59_it was uninstalled with the kde 4 stuff03:09
Agent_bobkde will work without kdm   or any dm for that matter.03:09
ses59_yes if you want to command line in but i wanted the manager back03:09
Agent_boball ?dm does is give you a graphical login prompt     or automaticly log someone in.03:10
sub[t]rnlif you properly uninstall the exact packages you pull from the ppa repo, you won't run into problems.03:10
TuB^Hi. Anyone around to help? Have just installed Kubuntu, but don't think the driver for my graphics card has installed (or installed properly). It's a Radeon Mobility HD 2400. I followed instructions to install the fglrx driver, but that doesn't seem to have made any difference. It's not showing on the Restricted Drivers Manager either. Any ideas?03:10
ses59_this is true but my permissions was wrong on login without manager so just a note to check if kde 4 is uninstalled03:10
nosrednaekimTuB^➜ is that a really new Gfx card?03:11
ses59_just wanted you to have the info in case you needed it for kde 403:11
sub[t]rnlses59_➜ k, thanks for the info then ses59_03:11
thomas_newbie__Agent_bob: i'm running as root because I'm executing /usr/src03:11
TuB^nosrednaekim: Came out in summer 07 I've read somewhere.03:12
Agent_bobthomas_newbie__ the command you posted should not need sudo03:12
nosrednaekimTuB^➜ ok, then you'll need the latest ATI drivers03:12
Agent_bobit's only displaying info to stdout   which is non-root anyway03:12
nosrednaekimTuB^➜ the ones in restricted-manager don't support those.03:13
thomas_newbie__Agent_bob: I think when I execute it its giving me all code03:13
TuB^nosrednaekim: Any chance you can point me to a hold-your-hand guide for this? If not, I'm sure google's my friend!03:14
nosrednaekimTuB^➜ yeah...one moment03:14
Agent_bobthomas_newbie__ the only reason i mentioned it, is your nick sujests that you might not fully understand why and what sudo actually does.    unnessecary over use of sudo is no better than logging in as root.03:14
jacobOK people, tell me this - if I downloaded Ubuntu Hardy, but installed kubuntu-desktop, and use KDE 80% of the time, barely ever use Gnome apps (boo), and have the "Kubuntu" screens during boot and shut-down, am I an Ubuntu user or a Kubuntu user?03:15
thomas_newbie__Agent_bob: yes i now what sudo does.....you're right03:15
hydrogenpeople blow the dangers of root out of proportion in my opinion03:15
nosrednaekimjacob➜ you are a Linux user :)03:15
nosrednaekimTuB^➜ http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide03:16
jacobYup, but more specifically...I say I'm an "Ubuntu KDE" user03:16
jacobUbuntu / KDE03:16
thomas_newbie__Agent_bob: but it doesn't give me the specific lines with those words03:16
TuB^Thanks a lot, nosrednaekim03:17
nosrednaekimTuB^➜ uninstall any previous drivers you installed first though03:17
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TuB^Yeah, am on that03:17
sub[t]rnljacob➜ kubuntu -is- ubuntu + kde03:17
nosrednaekimjacob➜ call yourself what you want.... as long as you use KDE, we won't send Konqui after you :)03:17
sub[t]rnlremember back in the day when we logged in as root, compiled our own kernels every month, and checked tripwire logs?03:18
* sub[t]rnl goes back to his wine03:18
MrJoeyMaybe the GNOME mascot should be Beowulf (because in the story, he fights a dragon :) )03:19
jacobDoes Kubuntu use Synaptic by default?03:20
nosrednaekimno.... Adept03:20
nosrednaekimbut I use synaptic anyway03:20
jacobAh, I've seen that03:20
jacobYeah, I prefer Synaptic03:20
sub[t]rnlbah, no loyalty03:20
seneris there an issue with the repositories lately?03:21
nosrednaekimsener➜ not that I know of03:21
nosrednaekimsub[t]rnl➜ heh, im interesting in the kde4 adept.03:21
seneri keep jamming up when apt-get update or install03:21
sub[t]rnlnosrednaekim➜ :>03:22
jacobI have KDE4 on here...but I still use KDE 3.503:22
jacobAnybody notice the resemblance of KDE 4 to Vista?03:22
senerjust thought there was an issue at the repo end.03:22
drifhow can I avoid getting into maintenance mode on boot if there's drive missing which is included in /etc/fstab?03:26
Stofferlooking for an opinion:  I couldn't get my external ntfs usb hard drive working in ubuntu because of a policy issue or something, so I just converted it to fat32.  That was a good idea right?  No serious drawbacks to a fat32 filesystem over ntfs?03:26
sub[t]rnldrif➜ you'll need to configure your divices to use a UUID03:27
sub[t]rnldrif➜ that is if your switching out drives and they are getting a different device node and boot order.. use blkid /dev/whatever03:27
nosrednaekimStoffer➜ you can't store files over 2 gigs(I think)... but otherwise you are good03:28
Stofferwait...that's a serious drawback03:28
Stofferno...that won't work at all03:28
senersince i installed a new linksys router - i'm having this issue when i apt-get - : 99% [Connecting to ca.archive.ubuntu.com (] and it times out - any idea why?03:28
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: could you help me with that command03:28
Stofferok...well, then I'll be back later trying to get an external ntfs usb drive working03:29
sub[t]rnlthomas_newbie__➜ which?03:29
Stoffernosrednaekim, thansk03:29
nosrednaekimStoffer➜ does it need to be accessed by windows?you could always use ext303:29
scott_My sister is having a serious sound problem that I can't seem to fix03:29
Stoffernosrednaekim, yeah, because I'm planning to use it to copy files from a windows machine03:30
Stoffernosrednaekim, if the world was perfect, and everyone ran linux, then np03:30
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: find . -name "*.c" -exec grep -i [fuck] '{}' \;03:30
Stoffernosrednaekim, unfortunately....03:30
sub[t]rnlthomas_newbie__➜ lets keep the language out of it03:30
nosrednaekimStoffer➜ ^_^03:30
Stoffernosrednaekim, then again the ntfs-3g issue w/ externals in k/ubuntu isn't that convenient either.... I don't even understand the problem...03:31
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: ok sorry, but you get the idea. Well just a question I don't understand the part after the swear word. And It's not working...its giving me output but not any matches...just lines of code03:31
Stoffernosrednaekim, ntfs-config definitely doesn't fix it03:31
drifcan I use 'default' and noauto in conjunction in fstab line? does the latter outrule auto (as set by default)03:32
sub[t]rnlthomas_newbie__➜ remove the ['s from your piped grep pattern03:33
sub[t]rnlthomas_newbie__➜ if your wanting to redirect stderr, add 2>&- to the end (if your using bash) otherwise, use 2>/dev/null03:33
oloughlin75How do I kill a process I dont have permission o kill?03:33
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: ok I think i'm running the command in the right directory /usr/src. I ran it at school under Fedora and got a lot of results from programers comments...but i'm not finding anything here03:37
sub[t]rnlyeah, best to read up on find and grep then.  Just break it down find . (find in the current directory that you run it from) -name "*.c" (any files ending with .c) -exec (run this command on found matches) grep -i (filter for, not case sensitive)03:39
sub[t]rnljust change the . to a more general location, like /usr, if you want a broader search03:40
sub[t]rnlthomas_newbie__➜ if you wanted to know the '{}' \; at the end, thats just a normal part of the -exec in find, to run the command once on every file found.. you can also read up on xargs as a program to pipe find too.03:42
scott_My sister is having a serious sound problem that I can't seem to fix03:44
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: OK i see, thanks for the help.03:44
denisemy sound will not work and my brother is really good at computers03:45
sub[t]rnl!alsa | scott_03:46
ubotuscott_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP303:46
sub[t]rnltroubleshooting link is very helpfull03:46
scott_The sound system is enabled03:47
scott_All she gets is a looping sound03:47
scott_like a piece of the sound is in a loop03:48
denisewe are both on here lol03:48
sub[t]rnlhehe, ok, show me lspci -v |grep -i audio03:48
sub[t]rnlrun that from konsole03:48
denise00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 06)03:50
denise        Subsystem: Ensoniq Creative Sound Blaster AudioPCI64V, AudioPCI12803:50
denise00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)03:50
sub[t]rnlthe ES1371 is supported, so far so good03:50
sub[t]rnli'm guessing you've tried playing different types audio media?03:52
scott_Both ogg, MP3, and streaming audio from the nwt03:52
sub[t]rnltry this modprobe snd-ens137103:53
sub[t]rnllet me know if you get any output03:54
deniseNo, same thing03:55
denisesounds like a broken record03:56
sub[t]rnlyeah, really strange03:56
scott_As I said, I can't figure it out03:57
scott_I have never seen anything like it03:57
purpleposeidondenise: A broken.... what? ;)03:57
sub[t]rnlscott_➜ yeah, that makes two03:57
scott_I was thinking about doing a re-install of the OS03:57
sub[t]rnlscott_➜ just to make sure that sound module is loaded, do lsmod |grep ens03:58
denise modprobe snd-ens137103:59
denisedenise@ubuntu:~$ lsmod |grep ens03:59
denisesnd_ens1371            27680  303:59
denisegameport               16776  2 snd_via82xx,snd_ens137103:59
denisesnd_ac97_codec        100644  3 snd_via82xx,snd_via82xx_modem,snd_ens137103:59
denisesnd_pcm                80388  6 snd_via82xx,snd_via82xx_modem,snd_ens1371,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss03:59
denisesnd_rawmidi            25728  3 snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_midi,snd_ens137103:59
denisesnd                    54660  19 snd_via82xx,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_oss,snd_via82xx_modem,snd_ens1371,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_timer03:59
sub[t]rnlyeah, its loaded03:59
sub[t]rnldid the trouble just happen automagically? or was it like this from scratch04:00
deniseit was working fine then no sound at all I took my computer to scott to fix it04:00
sub[t]rnlsorry I couldn't help more04:01
scott_That is okay, you tried some stuff I did not :)04:01
scott_I can only think of a defective motherboard04:01
sub[t]rnlyeah, that could be04:02
sub[t]rnlis the sound like a reverbing echo that gets louder?04:02
sub[t]rnlor the same constant loop of sound04:02
denisethen my computer is f@#$ed04:02
hydrogenPlease, watch the language04:03
scott_No, not louder04:03
scott_The same constant loop04:03
sub[t]rnlk, last ditch effort would be adjust settings in alsamixer, but i doubt that will fix your woes..04:04
scott_I tried fooling around with kmix04:04
deniseyou know how hard it is to whatch something on utube with no sound04:04
scott_I also tried a live cd, the only one I had was the 6.0604:05
scott_I got the same thing with the amarok in 6.0604:05
sub[t]rnlscott_➜ you've only tried with amarok?04:07
denisei also like to use amarok on my computer if we cant fix it i will have to remove it :(04:08
scott_I tried kaffiene in the 6.06, but it crashed on me04:08
sub[t]rnlok, i would try a couple other media players.04:08
scott_On her current Kubuntu 7.10 I also tried other things04:08
sub[t]rnlk.  pop into #amarok and see if anyone has seen this problem.04:09
scott_Okay, I will have her try xine or mplayer04:09
sub[t]rnlthats where you'll find the audio geeks :>04:09
scott_but, she gets no sound systems though04:09
sub[t]rnltry with mplayer for sure though04:11
jacobSpeaking of Amarok, how does it work for peopel here?04:11
jacobCrashes a lot in Hardy for me04:11
sub[t]rnlxine is amaroks engine04:11
jacobThough lately it hasn't been so bad04:11
sub[t]rnlamarok is great here. best thing since sliced bread04:11
jacobI really love the program, it just needs to smooth its edges04:12
jacobOr maybe it's just the fact that I'm using an alpha version of the distro04:12
jacobI hope it's the latter04:12
jacobMain problem is with internet streams...it sometimes goes unstable trying to add them, and a lot of the time I get a stupid "demux plugin not available" message, even though clicking the stream again brings it up just fine04:12
jacobThey say it's a problem with the current xine-lib that's supposed to be fixed in the next release04:13
jacob1.1.12 or something04:13
jacobApparently it's available in CVS or something but I'm too lazy to get it and install it04:13
jacobBut otherwise Amarok has been behaving well the last day or two04:13
jacobJust got the message..."No suitable demux plugin. This often means that the file format is not supported."04:14
jacobBut clicking on the stream again, no problem at all04:14
deniseI tried Mplayer and same thing04:18
scott_It seems to very slowly play through the song, but while looping04:19
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kerncoI'm running a live cd right now, not sure if it's 32-bit or 64-bit.  How can I find out?04:25
sub[t]rnlscott_➜ hrm04:26
sub[t]rnlscott_➜ mind trying something real quick?04:26
geniikernco: Is it red or yellow?04:26
kerncoI burnt it from an image I downloaded...just forgot to label it >_<04:27
scott_what is that?04:27
frank23jacob: I noticed that too in gutsy  No suitable demux plugin.04:27
geniikernco: uname -a     should tell you04:27
scott_Yea, I get the "No suitible demux plugin" as well when I know I can play the sound04:28
kerncogenii: Thanks04:28
sub[t]rnlscott_➜ edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst and add pnpbios=off in the kernel boot line04:29
scott_Allright, I will get my sister to do that04:30
frank23sub[t]rnl: how do you do those arrows?04:31
kernco-> maybe?04:31
kernconope :P04:31
david_i seem to have lost the kmenu on black bar along the bottom of my screen... i'm in kde4 and cannot restore it, and googled to no avail, does anyone know what i might be able to do to get it back?04:32
deniseim back04:35
david_hi denise.04:35
sub[t]rnldenise➜ did you add pnpbios=off to your /boot/grub/menu.lst?04:36
sub[t]rnlno change then?04:37
deniseAnd I rebooted04:37
deniseno change04:37
denisehi david04:37
sub[t]rnlk, it was an old bug fix I dug up on launchpad.  had to take a stab at it.04:37
david_let me know when it's my turn please,  did'nt mean to request help out of turn.04:38
sub[t]rnldavid_➜ hehe, try alt + f2 and type plasma04:38
sub[t]rnldidn't mean to ignore ya.  If you need any further help, try #kubuntu-kde404:38
scott_I'm just going to do the re-install of Kubuntu04:39
scott_for her04:39
denisei really hope that works04:39
* sub[t]rnl nods04:39
david_sub[t]rnl: nothing happened.04:39
scott_If that does not fix it, we will know it is hardware04:39
david_alt f2 brought up the command interface04:39
david_but plasma brings nothing up04:39
david_run plasma (command)04:40
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david_click launch04:40
david_then nothing04:40
sub[t]rnldavid_➜ try #kubuntu-kde404:41
stratman4300is there currently a "Kubuntu" way of installing compiz and emerald....04:42
stratman4300someway so it doesn't install all the gnome crap  like the libs and what not??04:42
sub[t]rnlyes sir04:42
david_sub[t]rnl: , i'm there now, tyvm04:42
sub[t]rnlwell.. compiz was written for gnome, so some deps are going to be included04:42
stratman4300right...  i figured that much04:43
sub[t]rnl!compiz | stratman430004:43
ubotustratman4300: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion04:43
stratman4300cool Thanks!! =)04:43
sub[t]rnlyup, they will give you the apt-get command for kubuntu on the page04:43
david_unfortunatly, it seems as though nobody is active in that channel.04:45
stratman4300they working on a little desktop effects app for kubuntu in hardy i wonder???04:45
stratman4300like the one they have in gnome??04:45
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stratman4300i don't mind the CLI, but it's nice to click a button and have it done you know   ;)04:46
sub[t]rnlyup, not a little though, a full blown compositing effects kdm.04:46
stratman4300i might have to load hardy up on a VM04:47
stratman4300it's still in Alpha isn't it??04:47
sub[t]rnldavid_➜ have you restarted kde4? still no plasma?04:51
david_what is plasma?04:52
sub[t]rnlits the menu bar at the bottom of kde404:52
david_i have that. i'm just missing the big K icon.  lol04:52
david_i cannot for the life of me, figure out how to her the application launcher (i think that's what it's called) back04:53
sub[t]rnltry this.. cp ~/.kde4/share/config/plasmarc{,.backup}04:54
sub[t]rnlfrom konsole04:54
snarksterwhat do you do to get knetworkmanager working?04:55
sub[t]rnland this   cp ~/.kde4/share/config/plamsa-appletsrc{,.backup}04:55
david_went to next line.04:56
david_KLauncher could not be reached via D-Bus, error when calling start_service_by_desktop_path:04:56
addlp!kubuntu español04:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu español - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-es - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:56
sub[t]rnl!es | addlp04:56
ubotuaddlp: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.04:56
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up04:56
sub[t]rnldavid_➜ did you do the second one I gave you as well?04:57
david_just now04:57
addlpmuchas gracias04:57
david_waiting to see.....04:57
sub[t]rnldavid_➜ ok, now %killall plasma && plasma & from konsole04:57
sub[t]rnldavid_➜ ok, now killall plasma && plasma & from konsole04:57
david_killed. restarted, no K icon.04:58
david_i deleted it on accident from the panel. :(04:58
david_i have the 4 desktops, the klipper, wifi strength, speaker and clock04:59
sub[t]rnldavid_➜ ok wait, we just made backups, my fault.  now rm ~/.kde4/share/config/plasmarc && rm ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-appletsrc04:59
sub[t]rnldavid_➜ then kill and restart plasma05:00
Ryu010 im running gos and i cant get bcm43xx to install can someone help me out?05:00
sub[t]rnl!bcm43xx | Ryu01005:00
ubotuRyu010: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx05:00
Ryu010lol everyone sends me the link to bcm43xx and it never helps05:00
david_ryu, what notebook? i might be able to help05:01
sub[t]rnlsnarkster➜ remove any lines from /etc/network/interface that have to do with your interface device05:01
Ryu010its an hp05:01
sub[t]rnldavid_➜ you rm'd those files and restarted plasma? any change?05:02
david_i'm on a ZV6000. i'll help you in a second05:02
thomas_newbie__how can I disable sshd from starting up on boot without having to create a sshd_not_to_be_fun file05:02
david_holy crap, now i have every icon under the sun05:02
sub[t]rnldavid_➜ :P05:02
sub[t]rnlthomas_newbie__➜ sudo update-rc.d sshd remove05:03
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: i don't want to remove ssh though....05:03
sub[t]rnlthomas_newbie__➜ your not, your just disabling it from starting during default runlevels05:03
thomas_newbie__sub[t]rnl: ty05:04
david_one more minute here Ryu01005:06
Ryu010ok :)05:06
david_ryu what have you tried so far?05:07
Ryu010lots of packages and about 10 different tutorials05:08
david_did you get network-manager installed?05:08
david_do you have an eth1 and an eth0?05:08
Ryu010i spent a week using kubuntu trying to get it to work there, i had no luck05:09
Ryu010what network manager?05:09
Ryu010i installed the os on my toshiba laptop as well05:09
coreymon77david_: ooh!, network problems, my specialty!05:09
Ryu010wifi works there05:09
coreymon77who has the wifi problems05:10
david_coreymon77: ryu05:10
coreymon77Ryu010: yay! my specialty!05:10
Ryu010i have been trying with many different distros and stuff all week05:11
Ryu010i am about to give up and go back to vista or xp :(05:11
sub[t]rnldon't blame linux, blame broadcom :P05:11
coreymon77Ryu010: my turn05:12
coreymon77Ryu010: listen to sub[t]rnl, he knows what hes talking about :P05:12
coreymon77Ryu010: so, what seems to be the problem *takes out stethoscope*05:12
Ryu010i cant get a wifi driver05:13
coreymon77alrighty then05:13
coreymon77step into my office :P05:13
coreymon77give me a sec05:14
Ryu010Broadcom 4328 wireless card05:14
geniiRyu010: sudo modprobe bcm43xx05:15
Ryu010do i need to have an net connection when i run that05:16
coreymon77Ryu010: and what version are we using here05:16
sub[t]rnlhiya genii :>05:16
* sub[t]rnl rattles cup05:16
geniihiya sub[t]rnl :)05:16
coreymon77Ryu010: kubuntu05:17
Ryu010i switched from kubuntu to gos05:17
* genii fills sub[t]rnl's cup with fresh strong coffee05:17
* sub[t]rnl taps fingertips together05:17
coreymon77Ryu010: im talking edgy feisty gusty etc05:17
Ryu010i dont know?05:18
aharooni want another program other than ktorrent it never increase its download speed change from 0.6-3.0 kb/s it makes mee crazy05:19
coreymon77Ryu010: oh, so we are not using kubuntu?05:19
Ryu010i could install kubuntu again05:19
Ryu010it should be the same on gos, its the same base right?05:19
coreymon77Ryu010: i was just expecting you to be using kubuntu if you were asking help on this channel05:20
coreymon77Ryu010: not neccessarily05:20
zhangkaiI install kde4 ,but found  the desktop toolbar got away.05:20
coreymon77Ryu010: im not sure what gos is based off of05:20
Ryu010i asked on many other channels and no one knew anything05:20
Xavier_Zcoreymon77: yeah, gOS is based upon Ubuntu, it refers to Ubuntu documents for FAQs05:21
coreymon77Xavier_Z: its *buntu based05:21
coreymon77okey dokey05:21
Ryu010gos is ubuntu with enlightenment05:21
geniiRyu010: Have you done yet:      sudo modprobe bcm43xx                ?05:21
coreymon77Ryu010: then we should be fine05:21
Ryu010it did nothing05:21
sub[t]rnl!azureus | aharoon (though if ktorrent is slow, probably not port forwarding correctly or iptables issue)05:21
ubotuaharoon (though if ktorrent is slow, probably not port forwarding correctly or iptables issue): azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo05:21
coreymon77Xavier_Z: based off which buntu?05:22
snarkstersub[t]rnl: why is it that you have to edit /etc/network/interfaces at all?05:22
geniiRyu010: Did you expect it to start dancing ;) No msg means it accomplished loading the module05:22
coreymon77Xavier_Z: i tend to use the wifidocs and like to know which version we are using05:22
aharooni forworded the ports  but nothing happened05:22
sub[t]rnlsnarkster➜ if you have something defined other than default in /etc/network/interfaces, knetworkmanager will not control it05:22
coreymon77Ryu010: ya, heres a lesson about linux05:22
geniiRyu010: Are you using KDE right now as desktop?05:22
Xavier_Zryu010: http://www.faqly.com/question/view/id/99305:22
coreymon77Ryu010: if you input a command and you get no output back, thats usually a good thing05:23
geniicoreymon77: Yes, it's weird. When it doesn't say anything after a command ppl think it didn't do anything :)05:23
Ryu010not with mandriva, i usually use it but my licence expired05:24
coreymon77genii: thats because they are used to doze, which does a victory dance when something actually works :P05:25
sub[t]rnlgenii➜ lol.. wouldn't it be odd if it did though.. like an echo'd "kay!"05:25
* sub[t]rnl sips coffee05:25
Ryu010alright so what is my next step after sudo modprobe bcm43xx05:25
Xavier_ZRyu010: did you check out the link I sent you?05:26
geniiRyu010: when you do now:     ifconfig           what does it show? Please use pastebin website for the output05:26
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:26
* genii sips his coffee as well05:27
sub[t]rnlnot bad t'all05:27
coreymon77genii: notice how i said usually05:27
coreymon77genii: sometimes it not giving any output is a bad thing05:28
kkerwinHi. What package contains the file kde4-config?05:28
coreymon77genii: such as when you type find /home :P05:28
sub[t]rnlkkerwin➜ kdelibs505:28
kkerwinsub[t]rnl: Thank you.05:28
Ryu010only eth0 shows05:29
geniicoreymon77: Good point05:29
kkerwinsub[t]rnl: Ah. I see that kdelibs5 is listed as breaking.05:29
coreymon77Ryu010: yay, isnt eth0 your interface?05:29
geniiRyu010:    sudo ifconfig wlan0 up05:29
Ryu010wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags; No such device05:31
geniiRyu010: OK. 1 minute, need to see if wlan is the right one for that card05:31
sub[t]rnltry eth1 while he's looking05:32
coreymon77Ryu010: wait a sec05:32
coreymon77Ryu010: gos is gutsy based05:32
coreymon77Ryu010: that helps05:32
coreymon77Ryu010: do you have any internet connection on the computer?05:32
geniicoreymon77: Yes, it does05:32
Ryu010yeah eth0 works05:32
geniiFound a Gutsy howto for this adapter https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Gutsy05:33
geniisub[t]rnl: I think yer right, it is ethX type05:33
Ryu010i have seen that05:33
Ryu010it got me no where05:33
sub[t]rnlRyu010➜ thats whats scary, if that link got you nowhere.. they take you through offline installation and everything.05:34
sub[t]rnlsounds like its more gos trouble than kubuntu, cause that link is money05:34
Ryu010would it be easyer to make work on kubuntu05:35
coreymon77genii: thats what i always use05:37
geniiRyu010: I'm pretty sure that site will work if the instructions are exactly followed.05:37
coreymon77genii: thats what i always use to help people05:37
coreymon77genii: it would just be easier with kubuntu05:37
geniicoreymon77: Yes, since especially this channel is for kubuntu support ;)05:38
coreymon77Ryu010: but, i just downloaded the gos virtual appliance for vmware fusion05:38
snarksteryou know there arent any instructions about removing entries in interfaces05:38
coreymon77Ryu010: so i could prob help now05:38
geniisnarkster: in /etc/network/interfaces ?05:38
geniisnarkster: Just comment them out with a #05:38
Ryu010when you get gos up and running you can get in your terminal by going to run command05:39
Ryu010type xterm05:39
snarksterright but there arent any instructions to do that... Ive been pulling my hair out for over a week to get knetwork manager working'05:39
coreymon77snarkster: knetworkmanager=crap05:40
snarksterleast it works now05:41
coreymon77snarkster: kwifimanager+iwconfig=use05:41
snarksterthats all I care about05:41
geniisnarkster: Yes, when interfaces file has an entry then network manager thinks the interface has been manually set up and you won't be able to see any networks, etc05:42
snarksterok well thank you guys05:43
aharoonhow to configure azureus for best speed download im on 256 dsl i have router i dont have firewall05:43
coreymon77aharoon: azureus=slow05:43
coreymon77aharoon: ktorrent or wined utorrent=use05:44
aharoonktorrent is killing me its download at 3 kb/s tell what i can use05:44
coreymon77aharoon: maybe its just a bad torrent05:44
sub[t]rnluse this http://infinite-source.de/az/az-calc.html05:45
sub[t]rnlthough, if your not forwarding properly, its not going to make a difference05:45
coreymon77sub[t]rnl: azureus=slow05:45
sub[t]rnlnever used it05:45
sub[t]rnlktorrent is hot05:45
coreymon77sub[t]rnl: its java based05:45
coreymon77sub[t]rnl: meaning that it is automatically slow speeds cause bogged down05:46
aharoonno not bad torrent i try this torrent on windows it download at 20 -25 kb\s05:46
sub[t]rnlaharoon➜ http://infinite-source.de/az/az-calc.html05:46
Ryu010i just finished with that link and no luck05:47
coreymon77Ryu010: i just finished downloading gos for vmware05:48
coreymon77Ryu010: give me a sec05:48
sub[t]rnlRyu010➜ what other channel will you find someone installing your operating system to try and help you out? none! lol05:50
sub[t]rnl(leave the donations at the door)05:50
Ryu010yeah i know05:51
Ryu010if coreymon77 solves this he will be my hero05:52
coreymon77okay, someone just lied, that was redhat not gos05:52
coreymon77lets go find gos virtual appliance05:52
coreymon77Ryu010: here we go05:55
coreymon77Ryu010: its gonna take a good 10 mins to download, so just wait a while05:56
Ryu010sure thing05:57
Ryu010i have about an hour before i am going to bed05:57
coreymon77Ryu010: another 5 minutes06:02
coreymon77lets just hope i dont fall asleep either! :P06:05
Ryu010what time there??06:05
aharoonnow with azureus download speed between 6.0-13.0 kb/s anyway to increase it up?? its good now than ktorrent but in windows 20-25 kb\s06:06
coreymon77Ryu010: 1:10 am06:07
Ryu010where are you?06:07
coreymon77sorry, cant say06:08
Ryu010sure thing06:08
coreymon77now to unzip it06:09
Ryu010almost got it?06:11
coreymon77and we are good to go06:11
coreymon77although im gonna have to install vmware tools06:12
Ryu010wont take long right?06:14
CrashedIt's telling me to run 'apt-get -f install' to fix some dependencies, but when I run that, ca.archive.ubuntu.com doesn't respond.06:14
Crashedca.archive.ubuntu.com has been the cause of a lot of problems for me.06:14
coreymon77wow, i hate to say it, but this is one crappy distro06:14
Ryu010lol its not that bad06:15
coreymon77it kinda is06:16
Ryu010do you have msn or anything06:16
coreymon77Ryu010: i cant give that ou06:19
coreymon77Ryu010: anyways06:19
coreymon77Ryu010: im on irc all the time06:19
coreymon77Ryu010: open up a uxterm06:20
coreymon77and run sudo restricted-manager06:20
Ryu010command not found06:21
coreymon77okay then06:22
coreymon77sudo apt-get install restricted-manager06:22
Ryu010could not find package06:22
coreymon77sufo apt-get update06:23
Ryu010looks like i need net for that one06:24
coreymon77Ryu010: oh ya06:24
coreymon77you do06:25
Ryu010alright now what06:25
coreymon77did you run sudo apt-get update06:26
c_c1_cicerohello room06:26
c_c1_cicero4th day on kubuntu.06:26
nick__does anyone remember that screensaver for X that had a bunch of fatal error screens from computers of old06:27
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c_c1_cicerohow do i give myself permission to mount a hard drive?06:27
coreymon77Ryu010: did sudo apt-get update finish running?06:28
coreymon77c_c1_cicero: sudo?06:28
sub[t]rnlc_c1_cicero➜ replace nouser with user in /etc/fstab06:28
coreymon77Ryu010: now run sudo apt-get install restricted-manager06:29
c_c1_cicerosub[t]rnl: i am just learning all this. how do i replace nouser?06:29
Ryu010could not find package06:29
coreymon77okay try sudo apt-get install kate06:31
Ryu010i think i broke the install06:32
Tm_Tgood morning06:32
Ryu010i dont have any commands that work06:32
Ryu010should i reinstall os06:32
Ryu010then we can go from there?06:32
c_c1_cicerosub[t]rnl: how do i do that, sub?06:33
sub[t]rnlsorry, watching a movie06:33
sub[t]rnlc_c1_cicero➜ alt + f2 and enter kdesudo /etc/fstab  Find the device your wanting users to be able to mount, and make sure it has user instead of nouser.06:34
coreymon77Ryu010: wait a sec, sudo apt-get install kate doesnt work?06:34
Ryu010i tested on the toshiba and the commands work there so i am going to reinstall the os06:35
Ryu010it will take about 15 min06:35
c_c1_cicerosub[t]rnl: command not found06:35
sub[t]rnlkdesudo kate /etc/fstab06:35
coreymon77Ryu010: sorry, i have to go to bed06:36
coreymon77Ryu010: i have to get up tomorrow06:36
coreymon77Ryu010: and its 1:35 am here06:36
Ryu010will you be here tomorrow06:36
coreymon77Ryu010: be back on irc tomorrow, ill be there once i get home from school06:36
Ryu010what time06:36
Ryu010your time06:36
coreymon77Ryu010: 4:00-4:1506:37
Ryu010alright i should be on06:37
Ryu010thats about 2 my time06:37
coreymon774:30 latest06:37
coreymon77anyways, see you tomorrow06:37
c_c1_cicerosub[t]rnl:  Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified kate: cannot connect to X server :006:37
Ryu010yeah i dont know if i will be on at 4 for sure06:38
c_c1_ciceroby coreymon06:38
Ryu010because thats when i would get out of school06:38
Ryu010so i will talk to you then06:38
coreymon77bye everyone06:38
sub[t]rnlsee ya c06:38
Tm_Tcoreymon77: bye bye06:38
Tm_Tc_c1_cicero: kdesudo ?06:38
sub[t]rnlc_c1_cicero➜ alternatively, alt+f2 kcontrol -> System administration -> disk & filesystems -> Administrative mode -> click on drive or partition -> Modify06:39
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter06:40
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c_c1_cicerosub[t]rnl:  okay. the settings were skewed. i have the first command going06:42
noaXessis firefox qt or gtk?.. cause the font i setup in systemsettings/apperance/font won't be used for firefox..06:42
c_c1_cicerosub[t]rnl: fstab is running06:42
c_c1_cicerosub[t]rnl:  i cant seem to navigate with kate.06:48
sub[t]rnlgo the second route, using the gui.06:48
sub[t]rnluse system settings as tm_t suggested06:48
c_c1_ciceroi can see them (the hard drives) but i dont know how to get permission to mount and unmount them06:50
sub[t]rnlclick administrative button, then highlight one and click modify06:50
c_c1_cicerosub[t]rnl: where can the adminstrator button be found?06:52
sub[t]rnlat the bottom06:52
c_c1_cicerosub[t]rnl: there is an info bar at the bottom that says i have three items, but no buttons06:53
sub[t]rnlis the modify button available? at the bottom?06:55
c_c1_cicerosub[t]rnl: no buttons at the bottom06:55
sub[t]rnlscroll down? it seems your not displaying all the information on that page..06:56
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NetkillerHey I need a bit of help06:58
c_c1_cicerosub[t]rnl: i found an open as root button06:58
NetkillerI set the resolution on Ubuntu to high for my screen. Is there a awy I can lower it using livecd?06:58
sub[t]rnl!resolution | Netkiller06:59
ubotuNetkiller: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:59
NetkillerI'd ask that in the Ubuntu chat but they never talk or answer a single one of my questions lol. Been like that for like 3 years now >_>07:00
NetkillerI did get someone to answer me once and that was after a page of hardcore bitching. >_<07:00
NetkillerYo that didn't help at all >_<07:03
c_c1_cicerosub[t]rnl:  hmmm i must have really goofed. now i cant find the drive at all...07:06
c_c1_cicerosub[t]rnl: doh. it looks like i dont have any power to one of the drives...07:07
c_c1_cicerothat would make sense.07:08
c_c1_cicerosub[t]rnl: bbiab07:08
sub[t]rnlNetkiller➜ what are you trying to do?07:15
Netkillerlower my resolution so that my screen will work.07:16
sub[t]rnlwhat resolution are you after07:16
sub[t]rnlNetkiller➜ ?07:17
sub[t]rnlwhat are you using now? 1400x900?07:17
Netkillerit's at 1440-900 right now which this screen uses on Vista but for someee reason won't work under ubuntu. >_>07:17
NetkillerI'm using standard livecd resolution07:18
sub[t]rnlit does work in ubuntu07:18
OrnedanHi. I've got a weird problem with the kvpnc program. For some reason, if I start it via the kmenu or alt+f2, it runs as root instead of my uid07:18
sub[t]rnlhigher resolutions, I showed you the link on how to do it07:18
Netkillerobviously not cause the screen complains about the input being to large.07:19
sub[t]rnlNetkiller➜ your using the i810 driver, it tells you step by step how to upgrade to the intel driver, or install 915resolution to get higher resolutions07:19
NetkillerIf I could SEEE what I was doing I would do that >_<07:19
OrnedanThe binary isn't suid, though. And if I start it directly from a terminal, it does run with my uid07:19
NetkillerBut first I need to lower the resolution by editing the xorg.conf which I am asking for help with.07:20
sub[t]rnlNetkiller➜ line 115 of your xorg.conf Virtual 1440 900 remove that.07:21
Netkillerthats it?07:21
sub[t]rnlNetkiller➜ also remove the 800x600 modes07:21
OrnedanI guess the question is twofold: HTF does it manage to run as root in the first place and how do I make it not do that in a convenient way (a dedicated terminal being an inconvenient way :P)?07:22
Netkillerthen save and restart and Ubuntu will freak out and run the resolution detection and set it to an appropriet reso?07:22
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sub[t]rnlNetkiller➜ you probably don't need to define modelines for your monitor either.  That will cause you more headache if you don't know what your doing07:23
Netkillerok so all I do is that save then restart and it'll start to work?07:23
sub[t]rnlOrnedan➜ yes07:23
Netkilleralrighty if it works thank you alot. If not I'll brb ^_^07:25
sn00zercould somebody take a look at my vnc startup file? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55681/ i can't start an x session remotely07:26
sub[t]rnlOrnedan➜ the program starts via su-to-root, so when you enter your password, it runs as root.  I'm guessing that you are starting it again within the 15 minute interval that kdesudo remembers your password for07:27
* Sbucatone io odio i pignoli!07:29
sub[t]rnlOrnedan➜ example, do sudo -k, then try to start kvpnc again, it will prompt for your password..07:30
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toyo|deskhow do I make it so that in kde I can just right click stuff and delete it with out sending to the trash07:52
giuseppei have a problem whit the graphic card nvidia07:55
Lynouretoyo|desk: I added that to my context menu about two months ago, prompty forgot how07:55
giuseppecan you help me??07:55
toyo|deskdont have one07:55
jussi01!ask | giuseppe07:55
ubotugiuseppe: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)07:55
Lynouretoyo|desk: ah.... Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Behavior -> Check "Show 'Delete' context menu entries which bypass the trashcan"07:56
toyo|deskLynoure, hmm yeah I just want to be able to right click delete07:56
toyo|desklets see if I can find that07:56
toyo|deskI have dolphin07:56
Lynouretoyo|desk: oh, never tried to find it for Dolphin, as I don't much like using Dolphin07:57
giuseppei go to system setting>>advanced but recsctricted driver tell me that "07:57
giuseppeThe software source for the package07:57
giuseppeis not enabled.07:57
Lynouretoyo|desk: I cannot see anything similar in Dolphin settings.07:58
toyo|deskLynoure, that worked I just did it in konq and it worked07:58
toyo|deskit worked for my desktop07:58
toyo|deskanyway I will figure it out tomorrow07:59
toyo|deskthanks for the tip Lynoure07:59
Lynouretoyo|desk: Well, that's good... it did not work in my Dolphin, though.07:59
toyo|deskI may end up ditching dolphin07:59
toyo|deskanyway I am going to bed its midnight08:00
Lynouretoyo|desk: good night08:01
bentob0xthere seem to be a massive update today for Kubuntu 7.10, anybody would have a link to the changelog?08:03
gundam_rx78nt1bentob0x, just don't update kaffeine to 0.85...08:05
jussi01bentob0x: I havent had one hit here yet08:05
jussi01oooh, its a jpatrick :D08:05
bentob0xit seems that the software isn't going onto a new version but it seems that it's ubuntu going from some_kde_software-0ubuntu-2.1 to some_kde_software-0ubuntu-2.208:06
bentob0xI just would like to know what's going on exactly basically08:11
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sebastian^good morning folks08:16
ejdWhen I select hibernate from the kde logout screen does it run a particular script, e.g. /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh?08:19
gundam_rx78nt1is there a way to make sensors display the information in degrees F without doing the -f option?  I want my superkaramba widget to display the temps in degrees F...08:22
Lynoureejd: normally yes.08:22
eatThisAndDieguys, anyone with Apache know-how? need to disable TRACE on my server.08:30
gundam_rx78nt1eatThisAndDie: go to www.apacheweek.com/issues/03-01-2408:32
kaminixWhy does Java lockup when I run it as described in this guide? http://wiki.freenetproject.org/FreenetInstallationLinux08:36
eatThisAndDiethx gundam08:37
gundam_rx78nt1you are welcome.08:38
eatThisAndDiewell actually i;ve tried that, doesn't work :P08:39
gundam_rx78nt1what version of apache are you running?08:40
eatThisAndDiegundam: 2.2.608:41
eatThisAndDiemod_rewrite is working perfectly fine, i use it for my application08:41
gundam_rx78nt1eatThisAndDie: try that.08:44
jussi01Does anyone know where they hide the backgrounds on kubuntu?08:46
jussi01ie. in which folder?08:46
Lynourejussi01: anyone with the default background could look it up quick, must be some such people still around08:47
gundam_rx78nt1its in /usr/share/wallpapers08:48
jussi01Lynoure: heh,08:49
jussi01gundam_rx78nt1: thanks08:49
* jussi01 headesks08:49
gundam_rx78nt1I do a lot of image manipulation there.08:49
jussi01gundam_rx78nt1: nice :)08:50
eatThisAndDiedudes, how do i get the transparent effect on the KDM login box?08:51
eatThisAndDiei seem to not have it anymore08:52
noam_was the latest KDE update supposed to make flash work in konqueror?09:06
noam_because now only sound works09:06
noam_and video doesn't.09:09
noam_which is certainly an improvement, don't get me wrong :/09:10
noam_i understand the new flash plugin uses Xembed. does it need special graphics driver support? i'm using an ati one, it might be problematic09:13
funcrushI added Firefox in my pannel but it doesn't work. How can I run firefox in pannel?09:19
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cicero_123reHello room09:21
cicero_123what would cause hard drives and cd roms to not mount?09:21
SlimeyPetecicero_123: are you trying to mount them manually?09:22
cicero_123using dolphin in root09:23
gundam_rx78nt1cicero: can you do a pastebin of your /etc/fstab?09:23
cicero_123how do i activate the pastebin?09:23
cicero_123nvrmnd found it09:24
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:24
cicero_123i dont seem to have a fstab file in the etc folder... :(09:27
cicero_123i hope i didnt accidently delete it09:28
SlimeyPetecicero_123: you sure? Try in a terminal. "ls /etc/ | grep fstab"09:29
gundam_rx78nt1that may be the problem.09:29
cicero_123okay, they arent folders they are files... copying them now09:30
cicero_123sorry that took so long.09:33
cicero_123there is also a fstab pre-ntfs config file. would you like it too?09:33
nodesertis there anyone who knows why i cant see the windows in grub boot loader.This is happened after i updated grub i think i have to reinstall it?09:41
gundam_rx78nt1nodesert: you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to include it in the list.09:44
noam_i just wanted to say that flash in konqueror works for me now, after i restarted...09:44
gundam_rx78nt1noam_ : did you just do the new updates?09:45
nodesertthanks i used sudo grub-install /dev/sda command09:45
noam_i got the new updates, and after i installed them, only sound worked but video was broken. i restarted the machine and it seems to work now09:45
Sbucatonewho want test the last fuoco converter ?09:46
gundam_rx78nt1what is fuoco?09:46
Sbucatonegundam_rx78nt1: this is old version http://en.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Fuoco++audio%5Cvideo+converter++and+more+?content=7388609:47
funcrushI added firefox in my pannel but I can't run firefox click it. How can I fix? I can't run any application with same method09:47
sebbarhi, since the last updates my laptop has been running very slow, anybody else experiencing this?09:50
cicero_123gundam_rx78nt1: did you get that pastebin file?09:51
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gundam_rx78nt1did you post the pastebin address?09:55
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gundam_rx78nt1I don't seem to have seen it.09:55
cicero_123http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55697/  i am sorry. :(09:55
{AnInfiniteEmpirI was wondering the best way to install the kde 4.0.1, the first time i installed it, I also installed all of the programs and then I had duplicates of everything.09:57
gundam_rx78nt1cicero, did you try to manually mount them?09:59
cicero_123i tried to use dolphin09:59
cicero_123they woundnt mount after i dled the ntfs package10:00
cicero_123gundam_rx78nt1: i guess that is a yes.10:00
gundam_rx78nt1try to do a manual mount to see if it is working.10:00
cicero_123gundam_rx78nt1: how is a manual mount done?10:01
blue1Could someone help with this? http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/3746/56615644aq8.png drives show in disk & filesystem but nowhere else, so I can't transfer from secondary -> primary10:01
gundam_rx78nt1sudo mount /media/cdrom0 (make sure you have a cd in it).10:01
sebbarhmm since everything is so painfully slow I'll try to install fluxbox, what's the best way to do this? just apt-get fluxbox?10:02
blue1sudo apt-get install fluxbox I'd assume10:03
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cicero_123gundam_rx78nt1: k there is a cd-rom icon now on my desktop. thanx. how do i mount the hard drive?10:05
gundam_rx78nt1click on the icon. that should mount it.10:06
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sebbarblue1: sure ok tnx10:07
* Sbucatone prrrr10:10
cicero_123gundam_rx78nt1:  the error reads mount point does not exist...10:12
cicero_123gundam_rx78nt1:  i am really thinking that i should reformat the disk and reload. the system crashed when i first installed it; and some of the system didnt work right.10:16
apparle Hwllo10:17
apparle Hello10:17
MrJigsawWhich program do you guys use to pack out rar archives +10:17
kaminixHow do I get Wine to display Japanese characters?10:17
apparleMrJigsaw: Why do you want to pack archives as RAR ??10:18
MrJigsaw... :)10:18
apparlekaminix: I am not sure but mostly by installing japanese fonts10:18
kaminixHow do I install those to Wine?10:18
MrJigsaweatThisAndDie, how do i use unrar ? :)10:19
apparleMrJigsaw: Just install it10:19
alomeloi have a question with ltsp10:23
alomeloanybody answer?10:23
apparlealomelo: what is ltsp10:23
cicero_123gundam_rx78nt1: i think i see a problem... the hard disk that i am gring to mount is listed as having a <mount point> instead of having the mount point as /media/DiskName. could that be the problem?10:23
jussi01!ask | apparle10:24
ubotuapparle: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)10:24
jussi01sorry apparle10:24
alomelolinux terminal server project10:24
alomeloI have installed LTSP on my Kubuntu 7.1010:24
alomelo[10:08] <alomelo> now I use some machines to connect to server with etherbooting10:24
alomelo[10:08] <alomelo> with some machines I connect perfectly with no problems10:24
alomelo[10:09] <alomelo> but 2 of the machines became idle10:24
alomelo[10:09] <alomelo> let me try to explain10:24
alomelo[10:09] <alomelo> they start to download the boot image from server10:24
alomelo[10:10] <vagrantc> what version of etherboot are the working and non-working ones using?10:25
alomelo[10:10] <alomelo> everything goes fine till the message "Starting ltsp client"10:25
alomelo[10:10] <alomelo> After this message it says10:25
alomelo[10:10] <alomelo> alsa-utils.c: device doesnt support 44100Hz changed to 44099Hz [OK]10:25
alomelo[10:10] <alomelo> and it hangs10:25
alomelo[10:11] <alomelo> same thing happens for the other machine10:25
alomelosorry above i pasted the question which i asked before at #ltsp channel10:25
jussi01!paste | alomelo10:25
ubotualomelo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:25
alomeloexcuse me10:25
gladieralomelo: sounds like an alsa prob10:27
alomelocould you have a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55701/10:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about amarok-mysql - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:27
MrJigsawChould anyone give me the link to that ? :)10:27
jussi01MrJigsaw: I didnt know it existed.10:28
alomelo<gladier>i though the same but it displays [OK]10:28
alomeloso it must be solved the alsa problem10:28
alomeloI think its a problem with X configuration10:28
MrJigsawWell i got the link yesterday jussi01, just cant seem to find it right now :)10:28
apparleMrJigsaw: What is amarok-mysql10:29
MrJigsaw... I just wanted to find the link how to make amarok use mysql..10:30
MrJigsawDident know what to write ;)10:30
apparleMrJigsaw: but what is amarok-mysql10:30
MrJigsaweeh ?10:30
gladieralomelo: i assume you have seen http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/TroubleShooting10:32
gundam_rx78nt1yes, that is a rpblme.  sory for not responding.10:32
alomeloyes gladier10:32
alomelobut couldnt find my case10:32
eatThisAndDieMrJigsaw: I;m pretty sure its unrar e filename.rar but you wanna check that out first10:33
apparleAnybody here uses apt-zip10:33
alomelogladier isnt this related with after opening x session10:33
alomeloi cant open an x session yet10:34
alomelobut i guess i should have a  look at ViideoCards10:35
alomelothanks gladier10:35
alomeloI will browse those pages and come back if i cant resolve10:35
cicero_123gundam_rx78nt1: np. do you know how to fix it so that it is mounted correctly?10:35
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apparleI want some help about http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34113 I don't know anyone who has kubuntu installed near me. Can anyone please compress and send me the folder /var/lib/apt/lists . I need a person with Kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon 7.10 i386 (32bit). Can anyone do it for me10:37
apparlePlease run "apt-get update" before sending the file10:38
alomelogladier no chance10:42
alomeloi tried video card suggestions but no resolution10:43
cicero_123bbl it is way past my bedtime. thanx all. once the mounting of the disk problem is solved i will be 100% linux.10:46
apparleAt least tell me the size of folder /var/lib/apt/lists10:47
MrJigsawHow do i make noacip and acpi=off stay in the boot loader ?10:48
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto10:48
MrJigsawi have to write it in everytime i boot op kubuntu ;/10:48
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto10:49
basculethats the one :)10:49
basculeMrJigsaw: basically add it to /boot/grub/menu.lst10:49
apparlesomeone please help me with ap lists10:50
MrJigsawif i wanted to open that using konsole, what would i need to write, bascule? :)10:50
SlimeyPeteapparle: give me a moment10:50
basculeMrJigsaw: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst10:50
basculeit should be obvious where you put the additions10:51
basculebut take your time10:51
SlimeyPeteapparle: http://www.scruffbag.net/lists.tar.gz10:51
SlimeyPetethat is from kubuntu gutsy10:52
apparleSlimeyPete: 32 bit?? all repositories enabled??10:52
SlimeyPeteyes, and yes.10:52
SlimeyPeteincluding the kde4 ones10:53
MrJigsawSO whats linux' answer to notepad? ;>10:53
SlimeyPeteMrJigsaw: Nano in terminal or Kate/Gedit I guess :)10:53
basculenot having something so useless?10:53
basculeSlimeyPete: kate .... how *dare* you!!! :P10:54
apparleSlimeyPete: Will the link work if I download it after 2-3 days?? I have a very slow connection right now. I don't have kde4. Will it create problems?10:54
SlimeyPeteapparle: it should work, yes. I don't think you not having kde4 will cause problems.10:54
apparleMrJigsaw: kdesu kate /boot/frub/menu.lst10:54
SlimeyPeteapparle: I will leave it up there for a week or so.10:55
apparleSlimeyPete: Ok thanks. Still I will try to do it right now. Don't remove it. I will tell you as soon as I download it10:55
SlimeyPeteapparle: ok10:56
ubuntu__im tryin to install kubuntu its stuck on scanning mirrors10:57
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apparleubuntu__: but why should it scan mirrors while installing kubuntu10:57
SlimeyPeteubuntu__: it should time out after a while. Maybe it can't find your internet connection, or the mirror is down.10:57
ubuntu__duno its on 82%10:57
apparleubuntu__: my suggestion> Disconnect the connection while install. later run update10:58
ubuntu__ok thx10:59
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots11:00
apparlethommy what are you trying to do??  :)11:01
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TuB^I've just installed Kubuntu on my new laptop, but am having difficulty getting sound to work. The laptop in question is an Asus F3Sr-AP725C - but the only information I can find on its soundcard is that it's an "Integrated Intel High Definition Audio compliant audio chip". Can anyone help?11:04
giuseppecan you help me?when i can to install a recstricted drivers of graphic card tell me :11:07
giuseppeThe software source for the package11:07
giuseppeis not enabled.11:07
apparlegiuseppe: you have installed the package??11:08
apparlegiuseppe: then install it11:08
giuseppeapparle: what do i??11:09
apparlegiuseppe: you have internet at your place. If yes then goto restricted-drivers-manager and enable the card11:09
MrJigsawHow do i exit a .lst docoment thingy in konsole ? ;/11:13
apparleMrJigsaw: Just close the window of kate11:13
MrJigsawWell i openned it in konsole11:14
viktorhi i just installed kubuntu i am new user from windows and not to familr with installing things on linux11:14
MrJigsawit says '^X' to exit, but how do i do that? ;S11:14
viktorjust wondering with the adept manager how do i install like my graphics card driver i use a 8500gt nvidia card11:15
apparleviktor: If you have a good network connection it is pretty easy11:15
apparleMrJigsaw: what cammand did you use to open the file11:15
viktormy network connection is pretty strong11:15
jussi01!ati | viktor11:16
ubotuviktor: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:16
apparleviktor: goto to restricted-drivers manager and enable the driver11:16
MrJigsawnano /boot/grub/menu.lst <- i used that11:16
apparleMrJigsaw: try pressing Ctrl+X. I never use nano11:17
MrJigsawIt worked, thanks :)11:17
apparleMrJigsaw:  :)11:17
viktorhi i tried the resrticted driver thing u said and my hole pc froze11:22
apparleviktor: what do you mean froze. when did your PC freez after you clicked enable driver? or anywhere else11:23
viktorit told me to put the kubuntu cd back in then it froze11:24
jussi01viktor: how long for?11:24
apparleSlimeyPete: I have downloaded the package . You may remove it11:24
viktortill i hit reset11:24
viktoralso i got no firefox explorer11:24
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apparlebye. getting late11:25
viktorand when i search online it like lags as if its tryin to find my internet connection or something11:26
MrJigsawuhm.. i want some cookies and cofee :>11:28
viktorwhen installing kubuntu the installation froze on scannin the mirror so i disconnected my internet and it finished installing how do i run the update now because my sound and lots of other things are not wokring11:28
seanhow do I install the xen virtual machine server on kubuntu11:30
blekoscould u tell me how i can install xubuntu over kubuntu?11:30
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blekosi'm running kubuntu on a vmware, u think xubuntu will be faster?11:30
viktorwhen installing kubuntu the installation froze on scannin the mirror so i disconnected my internet and it finished installing how do i run the update now because my sound and lots of other things are not wokring11:33
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wikiDoes anybody had experince regarding remastering11:35
wikiis there anybody?11:36
zarlinohi wiki11:36
zarlinoremastering what?11:37
wikiremastering ubuntu11:37
zarlinoyou mean burning the ubuntu iso?11:37
julien_hello word11:37
wikino cusomization11:37
zarlinoah i see11:38
zarlinocan't help sorry :)11:38
Kubuntu_hi i need help please11:38
wiki I have customized live cd from kubuntu according to documentation,11:38
jussi01wiki: have you seen the wiki entry about it?11:38
jussi01!ask | Kubuntu_11:38
ubotuKubuntu_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)11:38
wikiI done according to that11:38
wiki but my remastered cd asks for username and password while first boot11:38
wikiso how to do that setting?11:39
Kubuntu_i disconnect internet as the installation was scanning the mirror now no drivers are wokring no grahpics sound nothing11:39
Kubuntu_can someone plz tell me how to run an update or something11:40
zarlinoKubuntu_: why don't you just reinstall?11:40
Kubuntu_but it will freeze when it gets to scannin the mirror again no point11:40
zarlinoKubuntu_: try sudo apt-get update11:41
wikiKubuntu_: I think you have to change settings in /etc/apt/sources.list11:42
Kubuntu_to what11:42
wikiaccording to available resources11:42
wikichange paths11:42
Kubuntu_i dont understand11:42
wikican you tell me exact error11:43
ere4siKubuntu_, sounds like it was writing stuff to the hard disk when you pulled the cable and things got wrecked - reinstall but have the cable out before you start11:45
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ActionParsniphey all11:58
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arcticpenguin380will a p2 450MHz and 256MB ram run kubuntu well12:10
ubuntu_hi i am installing as we speak12:11
jussi01arcticpenguin380: it will run...12:12
ubuntu_and my installation has stopped at 82% and says scaning the mirror12:12
jussi01arcticpenguin380: well is another question...12:12
ubuntu_is it ment to do dat12:12
jussi01ubuntu_: just give it a few mins12:12
ubuntu_if it does not proceed what shall i do its been like that few mins already12:12
jussi01ubuntu_: just wait - if its not done in about 15 then come back, sometimes it takes a wile :(12:15
ubuntu_it is still stuck on 82%12:20
ubuntu_what does scanning the security updates repository mean12:21
lpetrasIt's looking for security update from the network repos12:22
ubuntu_which means is it proceeding from scannin mirror12:22
lpetrasIt takes a will :-(12:23
rodolfocanal en español?12:28
jussi01!es | rodolfo12:29
uboturodolfo: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.12:29
MrJigsawHow can i see how much CPU and memory kubuntu uses ? :-)12:35
Dr_Willishtop is nice also.12:37
MrJigsawBut like overall? Not what each zpp uses :)12:37
Dr_Willislooks purtier.12:37
Dr_Willisthe free command shows a lot of info12:37
SlimeyPeteMrJigsaw: Top shows overall stats at the top of the screen.12:38
MrJigsawIsent there a program with a gui for it?  :D12:38
SlimeyPeteMrJigsaw: try KSysGuard12:39
SlimeyPeteit's in the System menu I think12:39
SlimeyPeteit shows graphs.12:39
Dr_Willistherss all kinds of system monitors out. Depends on what you want.12:39
c1|freakyhtop is really nice12:39
c1|freakyare there any other system console tools?12:39
c1|freakylike that?12:39
c1|freakyfor system info12:40
Dr_WillisI got a CPU/Mem gague thing for my G15 lcd on my keyboard. :)12:40
MrJigsawG15 sucks ;P12:40
Dr_WillisThen theres all these windowmaker dock apps that can show things. or conky, or gkrellm, or others12:40
Dr_WillisMrJigsaw,  Go back to your Dorvak! :)12:40
DareDevilli want to setup an ircd. i alread have installed and done things. what protection will i need for it? ddos?12:40
MrJigsawDorvak? ;S12:41
MrJigsawFirewall  guess DareDevill?12:41
c1|freakyDareDevill: on irc servers u usually only run proxy scanner ... the rest is usually done by firewalls and such12:41
Dr_WillisDareDevill,  I imagine some of the basic firewalling guides will show you the fundamental things to do.  But i imagine the bigest security hole will be the ircd deamon itself.12:41
Dr_Willisblock scans and so forth.12:42
DareDevillMrJigsaw c1|freaky Dr_Willis sure. firewalling is first assumption. but what about ddos?12:42
Dr_Willis what about it...12:42
MrJigsawMem:   3632400k total,  3410972k used,   221428k free - How much is that in Mb? :S12:42
Dr_Willisif you got 100000000000 machines all trying to connect to your irc server at the same time.. well...12:43
DareDevillhow to prevent ddos12:43
MrJigsawFirewall ;>12:43
DareDevillno. firewalls dont prevent it12:43
Dr_Willisif there was a 100% fool proof way to do that.. well...  I imagine that the various sites you hear about getting DDOS'd wouldent be getting  ddos'ed :)12:43
MrJigsawUhm.. dos that i pasted before meens kubuntu is useng 3400Mb of my 4Gb rams? ;|12:44
Dr_WillisMrJigsaw,  Linux grabs about all the ram it can  for disk cache and so forth.12:44
Dr_Willissee how much swap its using. - proberly none :)12:44
Dr_Williscompare that to a windows machine.12:44
MrJigsawI dont use the swap thingy12:45
Dr_Willis             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached12:45
Dr_WillisMem:       3114988    2036524    107846412:45
Dr_Willisi got 3 gb ram. and it seems 1 gb is free - approx.12:45
kiss_killMem:   1034112k total,   569724k used,   464388k free,    17516k buffers12:45
parkin_windows vista?12:45
MrJigsaw10Gb ram kiss_kill? ;|12:45
MrJigsawDosent kubuntu 32Bit support 4Gb Memory ?12:46
kiss_kill1G+256M  haha12:46
Dr_WillisI think that OVER 4gb  ( in some cases) needs 64bit.12:46
kiss_killi use kubuntu12:46
Dr_Willisbut in some cases - you may not get the full use of 4gb exactly - with 32bit.12:46
MrJigsawALl right..12:47
Dr_WillisI read up on it once.. a lot depends on the specific mb/chipset/other things.12:47
MrJigsawIve got 4Gb, but only shows 3.6Gb ;(12:47
Dr_WillisIt got into a nasty thread on a forum i found.12:47
Dr_WillisMrJigsaw,  that sounds like the issue i was reading in the thread.12:47
Dr_Willismemory fro the video card, and otehr things have to get mapped somewhere also I think was the jist of it.12:47
MrJigsawWell 400Mb mem isent worth crying over ;P12:47
MrJigsawWhich program du you guys use instead of photoshop ?? gimp ?12:48
SlimeyPeteif I lost 400MB of RAM I'd only have 112 left12:48
SlimeyPeteand then I'd cry12:48
MrJigsawHow much have you got ?12:49
SlimeyPetein this laptop12:49
viktormy pc is doing a distribution upgrade and has paused on installing upgrades12:49
MrJigsawWell no wonder you would cry ;)12:49
SlimeyPeteKubuntu would cry. In fact, Kubuntu would probably fail to start.12:50
MrJigsawin htop it seems that its using 508/3547 :-)12:50
SlimeyPeteit has enough trouble booting in 256MB12:50
kaminixWhere do I find the .desktop files?12:51
MrJigsawDamn its nizzle.. i dident think my wireless keyboard would work in linux, but it does and also the media files..12:52
Dr_Willisbluetooth wireless?12:52
Dr_Willisor just a normal wireless. :)12:52
MrJigsawnormal wireless i think12:52
MrJigsawits Logitech MX3200 :)12:52
Dr_Willisand this is spurising because? :)12:53
Dr_Willisthey are normally designed where they dont need any drivers.12:53
MrJigsawuhm.. im using wine to run utorrent ( hope its okay to ask questions about wine using this app, its not directly illegal though ), but when i try opening utorrent it just show whats behind it.. is utorrent fucked then ?12:53
MrJigsawDr_Willis: dno..12:53
Dr_WillisMrJigsaw,  you may want to try some of the older versions of utorrent.12:54
MrJigsaw1.6.1 im using, its pretty old :/12:54
Dr_WillisI recall some issues with utorrent and wine. I perfer ktorrent12:54
Dr_WillisTry a newer one then. :)12:54
parkin_i like deluge12:54
MrJigsawIt worked great all night..12:54
Dr_Willislike it never refreshing its window right after you minimized it..\12:54
ubotudeluge is a new Bittorrent client, created using Python and GTK+, intended to bring a native, full-featured client to !GTK environments such as GNOME and Xfce - See http://deluge-torrent.org/ for more information or http://download.deluge-torrent.org/stable/ubuntu/feisty/ for downloading.12:54
noam_what wine are you using?12:55
MrJigsawuhm dunno.. i just wrote apt-get install wine ;P12:55
noam_wine progresses greatly between versions. you can try using the wine ubuntu repository which installs the latest wine and updates itself every two weeks12:55
noam_but really, for bittorrent there's no reason to use wine. ktorrent and azureus do their job...12:56
MrJigsawI dont like any of those clients..12:56
MrJigsawparkin_: is deluge nice ?12:56
noam_and it's still a mistake. running stuff in wine is prone to errors, if your only problem with ktorrent/azureus is that you don't like/aren't used to them, get used to them because it'll save you headaches12:58
MrJigsawIts not the only problem :-)12:59
Dr_WillisKtorrent has all the features i need. :) what do ya really need.. ya start it up.. let it run for a few days.. get your.. err.. Linux isos downloaded.. there ya go.12:59
MrJigsawTheyre banned at some of my sites...12:59
parkin_MrJigsaw: deluge works nice for me,^13:03
MrJigsawOkay, ill check it out :-)13:03
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viktorhow do i install compiz fusion13:04
Dr_Willis!compiz | viktor13:06
ubotuviktor: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion13:06
ubuntui have a little problem ... im trying to install kubuntu on virtualbox - virtual pc, but when formating the virtual disk it says theres an error when formating the swap space13:06
ubuntucan any1 help?13:06
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ubuntuups ..:)13:07
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usiRevwell ?13:08
tom__Sigh. Still having sound problems. I've installed the drivers for my card, and it's showing up, but even with the speakers on maximum volume, I can only hear sound from the speakers very faintly. Any suggestions?13:08
Greeneryhow do I combine split files into one file for rar?13:08
Dr_WillisYou did partition the drive and make a / and a swap?13:08
usiRevyup .. i tried first to create /, home and swap13:08
Dr_WillisGreenery,  with multi part rars' ive just used the unrar command and told it the name of the first file. No need to join them13:08
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usiRevbut then i only skipped home and  created root (/) and swap13:08
usiRevstill the same problem13:09
Greeneryokay thanks13:09
viktorive just tryed to install my nvidia from restricted drivers13:09
Dr_WillisusiRev,  could just let the installer  partition the virtual disk.13:09
viktorand get an error wont allow me to enable13:10
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usiRevso use the "automatic partitioning?13:10
Dr_WillisusiRev,  may as well.  You aint gaining a lot by having a seperate /home on a virtual disk.13:11
Dr_WillisI do tend to use vmware more then virtualbox  :) so i may wrong. but i dont see much benifit in it.13:11
usiRevDr_Willis: i tried to have separate /home, but then left that idea, but still the installer has problems to create swap space13:11
usiRevill try to leave all to installer, no manual partitioning .. will see what happens ..:)13:12
Dr_Willisi dont recall ever installing ubuntu in virtualbox. I tend to just test live cds with the things13:12
usiRevwell.. im running this under winXP ..:)13:13
usiRevno restarts needed ..:D13:13
viktori cant install my nvidia card drivers plz help13:13
Dr_Willisviktor,  you may want to check the ubuntu forums for your exact nvidia card.  the restricted-manager tool has always worked for me.13:14
Dr_WillisBut i hear some specific nividia cards can cause issues13:14
viktor8500gt it never had a problem when i used kubuntu in the past13:14
Dr_Willisso the stuff was working and suddendly stopped? or did you reinstall?13:15
MrJigsawWhat program do you guys use instead of photoshop ? :-)13:16
Dr_WillisI use gimp for most all my image needs.13:16
Dr_Willisand making icons. :)13:16
usiRevDr_Willis: not even the automatic partitioner can help ... still problem with creating swap13:16
usiRevbut the live cd is booted on virtualbox ..13:18
usiRevmmkay ... cya13:20
Dr_WillisI would say try out the free vmware13:20
* Dr_Willis wonders if usirev did create a virtual disk for virtualbox to use...13:21
aharooni want to use my fonts for xmms because it is not show arabic words where can put these fonta to see them in xmms?13:22
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ThunderXHello. I was wondering can I install Synaptic and totally remove adept?13:25
Dr_Willisaharoon,  xmms is a very old program. it may not have the ability to use special fonts like that.   (i could be wrong, check the xmms settings, and command line options if you want)  You may want to try a more mondern player like bmpx, or the xmms2 (not tried that in ages)13:26
Dr_WillisThunderX,  installing synaptic is trivial. No need to remove adept13:26
Dr_WillisI use synaptic all the time. I perfer it to adept13:26
ThunderXyes, but can i remove it?13:27
aharoonok what is program like xmms can i use ? i like something looks like winamp in windows13:27
MrJigsawAmarok is totally wubish13:27
aharoonamarok not like winamp13:28
MrJigsawSure it aint, its better ;)13:28
MrJigsawhttp://peecee.dk/upload/view/97209/full <- This means that im using 510Mb memory, right?13:28
zarlinoamarok does have a winamp-like windows13:28
aharoonreally i have amarok but its look too big i dont like this13:29
Whitmanaharoon, try bmpx13:29
aharoonok i'll try it thanks13:29
zarlinoaharoon: in amarok go to settings->show player window13:30
Dr_Willisor check out bmpx13:30
Dr_Willisam i the only one that starts up their media player playing tunes.. then just minimizes it out of th way? :)13:30
zarlinoaharoon: the player window becomes the main window13:31
aharoonok i get it13:32
zarlinoaharoon: and the classic amarok view becomes the playlist13:32
BlueRaidhi I've got some trubel with my cups printserver13:32
zarlinoaharoon: ok :)13:32
Tm_TDr_Willis: I leave Amarok sitting in its own desktop ;(13:32
BlueRaidafter 5minits i can't print somethink via network13:32
Dr_Willismpg123 -z /tunes/ :)13:32
Dr_WillisI thinkits -z for random play.. i forget now.13:33
Dr_Williswell Night all.13:33
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tzangerlooks like kubuntu updated all the kde packages13:43
Plum_PlumI see13:43
hanakanyone can help me13:43
hanaki try to install kde413:43
Tm_T!kde4 | hanak13:43
hanakbut everytime he need a other lib13:43
ubotuhanak: KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde413:43
hanakwhere i can gind a good server for in my sources.list13:44
SlimeyPetehanak: look at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php13:45
hanakSlimeyPete: i did that but somehow when i apt-get install kde4-core he ask all the time for libs13:47
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SlimeyPetehanak: did you do apt-get update?13:50
hanakSlimeyPete: yup13:50
SlimeyPeteOh. Odd. You run Gutsy?13:50
hanakSlimeyPete: sorry whats gutsy?13:50
SlimeyPeteUbuntu 7.0413:50
SlimeyPetethe latest Kubuntu/Ubuntu13:51
ubotuUbuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents13:51
SlimeyPeteerm, 7.10 even13:51
SlimeyPete<- in a timewarp ;)13:51
hanakkubuntu 7.1013:51
SlimeyPetewhat libs does it ask for?13:52
hanakthats it SlimeyPete13:53
SlimeyPeteand it can't install those?13:54
SlimeyPetewhen did you run apt-get update? Today?13:54
hanakSlimeyPete: yeah i did it13:54
hanakand when i try to install them he ask me others then13:54
hanakand so on13:54
SlimeyPetehrm, I don't know then, sorry. It shouldn't do that. Maybe you should join #kubuntu-kde4 and ask if there are problems with the packages at the moment.13:55
hanakSlimeyPete: i gues a good server will do13:55
Iggy_Blueshi guys13:57
hanakbefore in ubuntu there whas a good tool in shell command base-config i gues13:58
Iggy_BluesI need an help on kubuntu 7.10 and GIMP, can I ask?13:58
hanakyou could add great servers there13:58
hanakdoes ubuntu have that13:58
sn00zer!ask | Iggy_Blues13:58
ubotuIggy_Blues: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)13:58
Iggy_BluesGIMP does not come out in Italian (std lang for kubuntu)13:59
Iggy_BluesI tried LANG=it gimp command....13:59
Iggy_Bluesand this is the outcome:13:59
Iggy_Blues(gimp:6914): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.14:00
Iggy_Blues        Using the fallback 'C' locale.14:00
Iggy_BluesXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server14:00
Iggy_BluesXlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key14:00
Iggy_Bluescannot open display14:00
Tm_TIggy_Blues: do you have "language-support-it" installed?14:00
Iggy_Bluessure I have14:00
Tm_T!pastebin | Iggy_Blues14:00
ubotuIggy_Blues: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)14:00
Tm_TIggy_Blues: also related packages for gtk installed?14:00
Iggy_Blueswhich is this?14:00
Iggy_Bluesgtk is installed, infact there is a GTK warning...14:01
hethihmm, is LANG=it valid? What does "locale -a" say?14:01
Iggy_Bluesyes it is intalled, locale -a lists italian among languages installed14:02
* psi_ loves kubuntu14:02
psi_it even supports 3d on his crappy s3 twister gfx card14:03
Iggy_Bluesthe GTK warning says that locale is not supported by C library... but I do not know how to solve the problem14:04
Iggy_Bluesalso Inkscape does not come out in Italian, it seems a common problem to all GTK applications14:05
PendetaI'm presently using Windows XP but would like to install kubuntu so I can dual boot either xp or kubuntu. What concerns me is that I'm using  NVIDIA RAID 0+1 on 4 hard drives. Also, I have an ATI Radeon X1950 GT graphics card driving two monitors. I have an AMD 64 x 2 5200 cpu. Does kubuntu support this hardware?14:06
Tm_TPendeta: should, try with liveCD first14:06
asmith42I installed 7.10 and immediately did updates. There was an error at some point (I wasn't babysitting the computer) regarding another installer running- kind of odd since the updater opened and downloaded just fine. Now I can't install anything because it thinks an installer is already open. Reboot did not resolve this problem and I cannot find the problem process. Any ideas?14:07
MrJigsawTwo monitors and the CPU yes :>14:07
MrJigsawDont know about the rest14:07
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zarlinoIggy_Blues: i'm italian too and just stick to english14:08
Iggy_Blueszarlino: I know it is not a problem, I just want to know if it is a bug or not...14:09
zarlinoIggy_Blues: ok14:09
zarlinoIggy_Blues: btw inkscape rocks!14:10
PendetaTm_T, would the LiveCD show if the RAID configuration would work?14:11
MrJigsawUhm.. what FTP CLient do you guys recomend me to use? I need one with SSL support and i like a nice GUI Aswell :)14:11
tmalloyany recommendations on a graphical id3 tag editor?14:14
Picitmalloy: easytag perhaps14:16
llutz_kid3 ftw14:16
BluesKajHowdy All  : )14:18
geniiBluesKaj: Heya :)14:19
seezerMrJigsaw: tried kftpgrabber?14:19
seezernot sure about ssl support but i'd guess it has..14:19
MrJigsawIll give it a try, thanks,14:19
Samus2khello anyone have tried the kubuntu hardy alpha 4 ?14:20
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu14:20
Tm_TPendeta: well atleast if it can read them14:20
SlimeyPeteif you ask in #ubuntu+1 you are more likely to get a response, Samus2k :)14:21
BluesKajHi genii :)14:21
BluesKaja lil cool this morn14:21
BluesKajbrb my lag is almost 2mins14:21
Samus2ksorry ...14:21
SlimeyPeteno problem :)14:21
Samus2kthanks for the tip14:21
ActionParsniphey all14:21
SlimeyPetemmmm, parsnips14:21
ActionParsniptasty tasty14:22
n3x^hey, i downloaded a fresh install cd last night, installed, ran the updated and encountered problems during update, now its killed it :[14:23
n3x^whats wrong with adept?14:23
Picin3x^: Are you getting an error?14:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about stuckadept - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:23
n3x^yeh, at like 6% it failed to update14:24
n3x^i tried updating earier on an install i already had14:24
ActionParsnipn3x^, if you run sudo apt-getdistupgrade what does it say?14:24
n3x^new distro available14:24
n3x^but wouldnt let me actually update, it freezes14:25
SlimeyPetelots of people seem to be reporting adept update problems during install today/yesterday14:25
tomaz__people, i'm trying to build Qt4 here, and if i run any program based on it, i got a 'terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc''14:25
tomaz__any thought?14:25
MrJigsawis is possible to connect to windows remote desktop with kubuntu ? Of so, what do i need to use ?14:25
SlimeyPeteMrJigsaw: yep. RDP.14:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rdp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:25
ActionParsnip!krdp | MrJigsaw14:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about krdp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:25
SlimeyPetewell yeah, krdp is what you want14:25
n3x^im just a bit lost, i can install the distro and it works lovely as long as i dont update14:25
MrJigsawCan i use krdc ?14:26
ActionParsnipn3x^, sudo dpkg --configure -a14:26
SlimeyPeteMrJigsaw: yeah14:26
ActionParsnipMrJigsaw, absolutely14:26
n3x^it worth downloading the live cd with kde4 and trying to update from that?14:26
MrJigsawIm writing in ( yes im lazy using remote desktop beetween 2 PC's in same room ) but it wont find anything ?14:27
asmith42My update fouled up and now I can't install anything because it thinks another program is using the package database.14:27
sebastian_i try to start the adept manager, but it says someother program is running, so i cant start it, but when i check if there is another, there is none, what is wrong?14:27
n3x^i smell a problem with adept14:27
* n3x^ kicks14:27
sebastian_it says another process is using the packaging system14:28
asmith42The same type of thing happens when I try to use Package Installer14:28
ActionParsnipsebastian_, sudo dpkg --configure -a14:28
PendetaTm_T and MrJigSaw, thanks for your help!14:28
ActionParsnipn3x^, no point, if you run the dpkg command it should be ok14:28
asmith42"Only one software management tool is allow to run at the same time"14:28
ActionParsnipasmith42, did you double click the update reminder?14:29
SlimeyPete!aptfix | asmith4214:29
ubotuasmith42: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »14:29
sebastian_and then Yes?14:29
sebastian_it is working now, thx a lot :D14:30
ActionParsnipnp sebastian_14:30
asmith42Yes, as soon as I got Kubuntu installed, I clicked on the update reminder14:30
n3x^its booting!14:30
n3x^ActionParsnip ur a hero14:30
ActionParsnipn3x^, id stick to sudo apt-get distupgrade. I find adept a bit twichy14:30
BluesKajwow , anyone else have a 40sec lag ?14:31
SlimeyPeteno lag here14:31
geniiActionParsnip:I haven't used adept or even synaptic in a while now. I apt-get pretty much everything14:31
geniiBluesKaj: 155ms here14:31
SlimeyPeteasmith42: if you do what ubotu said, your adept/apt should start working again14:31
ActionParsnipgenii, me too14:31
asmith42I ran the aptfix suggestion and after the second command it starts running a setup of libqt3-mt14:32
BluesKajok now SlimeyPete , back to 1 sec , tolerable14:32
ActionParsnipBluesKaj, probably a network spaz nearby14:32
SlimeyPeteasmith42: yeah, it's trying to continue where it left off, I imagine14:32
asmith42SlimeyPete: OK14:32
ActionParsnipasmith42, let it have its fun and see what happens :)14:32
asmith42ActionParsnip: Will do.14:33
asmith42That did the trick.14:33
ActionParsnipyou can even make a bash script called kubuntu-update14:33
asmith42thank you very much14:33
ActionParsnipor an alias14:33
esophagusi'm having trouble getting a wireless usb t recognize my network14:34
asmith42Oh, right.14:34
asmith42that would be a good idea14:34
esophagusunder gutsy14:34
BluesKajstrange tho, I live 300Meters from the ISP switch14:34
esophaguslaptop running ubuntu 7.10 is able to connect14:34
ActionParsnipesophagus, what make / model is your wifi?14:34
esophagusrouter r usb?14:34
esophagusor usb?14:34
nosrednaekimesophagus➜ are your wireless dongle is supported?14:34
ActionParsnipthe usb.14:34
BluesKajoh :)14:35
ActionParsniprouter is a router is a router. all the same for home networking14:35
esophagususb is level one wnc-0305usb14:35
esophagusrouter is level one wbr-340814:35
esophagusit's basically something in the settings of the wlan0 device, as kubuntu recognizes the device14:35
n3x^will dist-upgrade install kde4 or do i have to do that manually?14:36
esophagusthe router seems to work fine with both windows and the ubuntu laptop14:36
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SlimeyPeten3x^: manually14:36
ubotuKDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde414:36
ActionParsnipesophagus, can we have a pastebin of lspci please14:36
ActionParsnip!paste | esophagus14:36
esophagusone second14:36
ubotuesophagus: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)14:36
MrJigsawuhm.. another program than kdrc to connect to windows remote desktop14:38
snarksterMrJigsaw: vnc14:38
snarksterMrJigsaw: tsclient14:38
MrJigsawill try tsclient :-) Thanks14:38
ActionParsnipesophagus, and lsusb please14:38
ActionParsnipMrJigsaw, dont use vnc over www. its not encrypted14:39
MrJigsawWell.. its on LAN im using it :D14:39
ActionParsniprdp uses 128bit ssl security14:39
MrJigsawIm freaking lazy ;P14:39
ActionParsnipesophagus, looks like a realtek chip which is supported14:40
torcGood moring everyone14:40
esophagusi think it's basically the settings in knetworkmanager are messed up14:40
nosrednaekimesophagus➜ is your wireless encrypted?14:40
esophagusit's encrypted with wep (i know i know...)14:41
ActionParsnipesophagus, then run mv /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces.old14:41
ActionParsnipand rerun the network config manager14:41
ActionParsnipesophagus, wep is fine14:41
esophagusgiven where i live14:41
ActionParsnipesophagus, keeps the average idiot out :)14:41
esophagusmy chances f being eaten by a dog14:41
esophagusis better than being attacked by a hacker14:41
esophagusrun network config manager from the command line?14:42
ActionParsnipesophagus, just rename the file and reboot. You'll get a fresh one. I'm guessing you are not running from live cd14:42
esophagushold on14:42
esophagusback in a jiffy14:42
ActionParsnipesophagus, no you are renaming theconfig file14:42
MrJigsawtsclient works ;>14:42
ActionParsnipesophagus, you will get a fresh file14:42
n3x^righty, updated and installed kde314:43
n3x^lets see what happens14:43
ActionParsnipMrJigsaw, tsclient is a frontend for rdesktop :)14:43
ActionParsnipMrJigsaw, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsclient14:43
esophagusit looks like i've only got interfaces.old14:43
MrJigsawSO now im logged ind, and i cant remember what i needed to do.. lol! :D14:44
esophagusshould i have regular interfaces in /etc/network too?14:44
ActionParsnipso you dont have /etc/network/interfaces ?14:44
ActionParsnipyou will when you run the config wizard :)14:44
esophagusand interfaces.old14:44
snarkstermy interfaces file is empty except for loop back14:44
esophagusit will give a new file when i restart though?14:44
ActionParsnipesophagus, indeed14:44
esophagusback in a jiffy14:44
sebastian_where can i find the update manager?14:45
ActionParsnipsnarkster, then you havent configured your network fully but if its working then fine :)14:45
ActionParsnipsebastian_, run adept14:45
ActionParsnipsebastian_, or at command line sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get distupgrade14:45
ActionParsnip(CLI easier)14:46
ActionParsnipsebastian_, np man14:47
sebastian_i did14:47
sebastian_but it says another process is using it14:48
zhangkaiHow to run kickoff?14:48
ActionParsnip!aptfix | sebastian_14:48
sebastian_ok now it worked14:48
ubotusebastian_: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »14:48
esophagusit works!14:48
ActionParsnipesophagus, np man :)14:48
ActionParsnipesophagus, that works with LOADS of stuff14:49
esophagusit seems like an old windows tactic14:49
ActionParsnipesophagus, but just rename so if its no better you can roll back14:49
ActionParsnipesophagus, those things are settings so watch what you do :)14:49
esophagusah, i see14:49
esophagusi'm off for now14:50
esophagusthanks again14:50
ActionParsnipesophagus, I had to do it with firefox once14:50
esophagusfor your help14:50
ActionParsnipesophagus, np man14:50
esophagusfirefox crashes14:50
esophagusjust wait for it14:50
sebastian_ive tryed run adept command, but it didnt work14:50
sebastian_it sayd command not found14:50
esophagusunder xubuntu, killall firefox-bin14:50
nosrednaekimsebastian_➜ adept_manager14:50
esophagusused to be my most commn command14:50
ActionParsnipcheers nosrednaekim14:50
esophagusnot sure why it was always necessary14:50
sebastian_but how do i  update in the adept manager?14:51
ActionParsnipesophagus, suprised you didnt alias it ;)14:51
sebastian_i tryed fetch updates, but i dont know how to install them14:51
esophagusnext time14:51
ActionParsnipsebastian_, did you run the command?14:51
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zhangkaiHow to run kickoff package.14:51
ActionParsnipsebastian_, and now can you sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get distupgrade14:52
ubotuKickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/233114:52
ActionParsnipzhangkai, sudo apt-get install kickoff14:52
sebastian_: Invalid operation distupgrade14:52
sebastian_it sayd : Invalid operation distupgrade14:52
ActionParsnipsebastian_, try upgrade then14:52
ActionParsnipsudo apt-get upgrade14:53
sebastian_it did work14:53
sebastian_but it doesent install14:53
ActionParsnipsebastian_, its downloading it all first14:53
zhangkaiActionParsnip,not found kickoff14:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bored - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:54
ActionParsnipzhangkai, you'll need the deb file14:54
ActionParsnipzhangkai, then sudo dpkg -i kicker-kickoff_1_i386.deb14:54
tzdcan someone please help me with a "non-working" sudo command? Trying to install flashplayer tar.gz format via command: sudo ./flashplayer-installer .I have execute right but i get error message: permission denied14:55
ActionParsnipzhangkai, wget http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/pool/feisty/3v1n0/kicker-kickoff_1_i386.deb sudo dpkg -i kicker-kickoff_1_i386.deb14:55
ActionParsniptzd, if you extract the file you should have a .so file. Copy that to your web browsers plugins folder14:56
psicobratzd: did u chmod +x the flash install14:56
ActionParsnipright guys im out14:56
tzdActionParsnip: ah didn't know that.. doesnt way anywhere :) thanks14:57
tzdpsicobra: it comes as x when it's unpacked so no need for chmod14:57
psicobraok i installed flah using apt-get14:57
psicobraor actually i think firefox did it for me14:58
psicobracan't remember14:58
tzdpsicobra: yeah i used that as well and it works until i restart, then I'm back to zero again even though it says the nonfree installer is installed... driving me nuts since a lot of the web sites im using is flash based  ;)14:58
tzdthe apt-get cmd that is14:59
tzdgoing to try parsnips advice... he knows my computer better than i do ;P14:59
psicobratzd: understand i used fire fox went to a page that used flash it told me plugin needed and i installed it14:59
psicobrasounds like a good idea15:00
tzdpsicobra: hmm i used to do like that when i was using windows but i don't think it worked in kubuntu?15:00
psicobrayeah it does tzd15:01
psicobrain firefox any ways15:01
stratman4300I'm trying to change my compiz/emerald window theme with emerald-theme-manager but it says i need subversion installed to download the themes....  i installed the kdesvn package, but that didn't seem to do the trick.... anyone run into this??15:01
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arcticpenguin380will i notice a speedboost with 64Bit15:02
tzdhmm copying the .so file didn't work since i alreadyt had it there... my guess is that i've messed up my home folder in some kind of way15:03
stratman4300articpenguin380: yes, with natvie 64bit KDE and GNOME apps you will.15:03
tzdpsicobra: do you have a separate partition for your home folder?15:04
tzdoki ;)15:04
psicobranormally would but i let kubuntu do it all15:04
arcticpenguin380is 14GB a lot15:06
arcticpenguin380for /15:06
SlimeyPeteit's plenty15:06
stratman4300articpenguin380: i run 7GB for / and i have more than enough space.....  you'll be fine as long as you specifiy a different partition for home15:07
arcticpenguin380i have 133GB for home15:07
stratman4300articpenguin380: that is if it's a desktop system and you'll be storing music and what now15:08
arcticpenguin380may be i can get 4 more GBs for /home i had had 7GB free for months15:08
arcticpenguin380days i mean15:08
trappistman, still no new kernel?!15:12
kkerwintrappist: Ya. Scarey. Just shut off SSH if you can.15:12
FaiDillinGerhi there15:13
kkerwinFaiDillinGer: Hello.15:13
FaiDillinGerwhats up will all theses updates15:13
pietjephuckor compile your own kernel?15:13
trappistthere are other alternatives, and I'm not exposed.  I'm just disappointed that with such a gaping hole they're not responding more quickly.15:14
pietjephucktrappist: I agree15:17
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sebastian_how do i install java?15:24
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.15:24
jussi01sebastian_: install the  sun-java6-jre pacage15:25
sebastian_tjx :D15:26
MGalaxyhow can I force GTK/GNOME APPs to use my KDE theme or I change their theme?15:28
epssihey. where can i change the applications i want to be started on login?15:28
epssimgalaxy system settings-> appearance15:29
jussi01MGalaxy: system sttings -> appearance -> gtk themes and styles15:29
MGalaxyepssi: jussi01: I already set it, but only some of APPs use the KDE theme, not all of them15:30
nosrednaekim!session | epssi15:30
ubotuepssi: To make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot15:30
ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.15:30
jussi01Does anyone know of a program I can use to permanently highlight pdf's??15:32
sebastian_when i install java in the termina, the license agreement appear, how do i accept?15:32
epssiwhy is there two Xorg's running by default? colosing the other one doesn't crash X, just seems to free some resources15:32
sebastian_when i install java in the termina, the license agreement appear, how do i accept?15:33
sebastian_when i install java in the termina, the license agreement appear, how do i accept?15:34
sebastian_when i install java in the termina, the license agreement appear, how do i accept?15:34
sebastian_when i install java in the termina, the license agreement appear, how do i accept?15:34
JoshOvkiyou type    yes15:34
wernersebastian_: just scroll down util you reach the end ...15:34
sebastian_i cant even scroll15:35
JoshOvkiah yeh, you must scroll down first15:35
Lynoureepssi: not by default, I bet... At least I only have one15:35
JoshOvkipress the down button15:35
sebastian_it wont work15:35
Lynourehe certainly seemed to be able to press up button...15:35
JoshOvkitryed the page down button?15:36
sebastian_but when im done, it doesent accept15:37
khaurpress tab15:37
sebastian_ok thx :D15:37
hydrogenhow can I ensure an env variable is set in the environment kde starts in?15:37
epssiok autostart installed, but there's no apps listed that im looking for (to stop from autostarting)15:37
wernerepssi: make some links?15:40
epssiuh id prefer a GUI approach15:40
wernerhydrogen: edit ~/.profile  ?15:40
wernerepssi: mh, yes, place some links with konqu in it?15:40
newbiewhy mount -t smbfs -o user=devel,password=devel //devel2 /develop /mnt doesn't work?15:41
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epssiwerner sorry i don't understand could you please explain15:41
sebastian_how do i install java?15:41
wernerepssi: open konqueror , 2 windows, and drag n' drop apps to the autostart folder?15:42
BluesKaj!java | sebastian_15:42
ubotusebastian_: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.15:42
epssiwerner im looking for a way to stop apps from autostarting, not to autostart them15:43
schisteEdgy, little old fashioned isn't it ?15:43
wernernewbie: is the a " " (space) to mouch in your command between //devel2 /develop ? what doues the output say?15:43
wernerepssi: uups, sorry !  :-))15:43
wernerepssi: what apps are this?15:43
sebastian_i dont know what java to install15:44
wernersebastian_: current java j2dk from the sun homepage ?15:44
sebastian_how do i install the file? i tryed that but dont know what program i need15:44
jussi01sebastian_: I mention it earlier: sun-java6-jre15:44
epssiwerner konqueror & kwallet15:45
wernerjussi01: oh, jre , not jdk .. upps :-)15:45
c1|freakyhi all. is there a possibility to store the information from contact on a dedicated server? like the calendar and addressbook?15:45
sebastian_where do i find it?15:45
wernerepssi: try close this apps and save the profile when shuting donw kde ...15:45
sebastian_jussi01  where can i find it?15:46
epssithen again i would like to start just a fresh session when i log in, but i dont want to be bothered to close every window when i logout/shutdown15:47
jussi01sebastian_: system -> adept15:47
jussi01sebastian_: you may need to go to the manage repositories in the menu and tick the multivers repository15:48
FaiDillinGerwhats the easiest way to get a LAMP server ready on kubuntu 7.10 plz ?15:49
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)15:50
FaiDillinGerthx jussi0115:50
n3x^i cant seem to get a desktop shortcut to work anymore, the program runs through konsole fine, but when i try make a shortcut it fails misserably15:53
n3x^any ideas? :[15:53
wernern3x^: wrap it with xterm  (like : xterm -e application )15:54
epssiany ideas why get duplicate Xorg on startup?15:54
BluesKajn3x^, how are you making the "shortcut" , from the kmenu ?15:54
n3x^um, well i just installed kde4 so its all a bit weird, i cant just right click on desktop and create a link to application15:55
n3x^but essentially its a program.desktop15:55
BluesKajn3x^, use the kmenu / add to desktop option15:56
LionoI am planning to open a larg internet cafe based on linux. I am not a geek but used linux for a while. i heard that its possible to use as many user accounts simultaniously with only one cpu and may moniters +  key board mice. is that a good idea?15:56
wernerprogram.desktop contains only some infos, you may edit it with kedit or something ... :-)15:56
n3x^u dont actually have the program in kmenu though15:57
BluesKajn3x^, what apps are you trying to add ?15:58
n3x^under command i have : /home/user/program/program and under work path i have /home/user/program/15:58
n3x^um, a game called tibia ^^15:59
n3x^i had the shortcut working fine under kde315:59
n3x^but in kde4 its being mean to me15:59
BluesKajkde4 | n3x^15:59
BluesKaj!kde4 | n3x^15:59
ubotun3x^: KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde415:59
manuel__have anybody had problems with a frozen laptop after a few minutes running???16:00
BluesKajn3x^, Support in #kubuntu-kde4, might be better than here.16:00
n3x^yeh, im trying, bit quiet in there though16:01
n3x^no answer in kde either16:02
sebastian_i cant get java to work16:02
sebastian_how do i get java to work?16:03
BluesKajsebastian_, a hint about installing java, make sure you've agreed to the disclaimer , sometimes ppl miss that16:03
sebastian_i did16:03
sebastian_but i still cant get it to work with firefox16:04
sebastian_can u explain how u installed it?16:04
BluesKajI used adept16:04
sebastian_what did u search for?16:04
BluesKajsun java16:05
BluesKajnot jre16:05
BluesKajif you got jre1.4 ..uninstall it , use either sun jave 5 or 616:05
sebastian_but now it came up a lot of diffrent java16:05
BluesKajI use 616:06
scott_quick question: If I want to halt my computer in 30 minutes do I type "sudo halt 1800" ?16:06
icewatermandid anyone try to install grub on kubuntu for amd6416:06
sebastian_i have them installed16:06
sebastian_maby i need to restart the comp?16:06
icewatermansebastian_: restarting computer is only necessary in case you switch the kernel16:07
icewatermansebastian_: and if you do it right not even then16:07
sebastian_so why wont the java work?16:07
BluesKajsebastian_, java-common is required as well16:08
BluesKajicewaterman, yes I had amd 64 working fine with grub16:08
sebastian_its alredy installed16:08
BluesKajdo you have FF open ? if so close it and restart it16:09
sebastian_maby i can install cnr, and install it from it16:09
sebastian_i have restarted it16:10
MGalaxyI use Keramik theme, almost all windows and buttons are blue, but in some APPs like Adept_manager|Manage repositories all of them are gray, why?16:10
icewatermanBluesKaj: i cannot install grub again. i can do so from 32-bit knoppix16:11
icewatermanbut i cannot install it from ubuntu16:11
sebastian_blues u know someting more i can do?16:12
sebastian_do i need the sun java development kit?16:12
BluesKajicewaterman, you most likely have it installed , it may be hidden , try this in the run command box: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst , then check if hiddenmenu is uncommented (no # in front)16:13
brian_Help!! I have installed the newest Nvidia drivers and now my monitior is really screwed up!16:13
sebastian_brian, uninstall it16:13
icewatermanBluesKaj: no, i cannot reinstall it (grub-install /dev/hda)16:13
brian_The screen is too small, I can't16:13
icewatermanBluesKaj: the package is there16:13
BluesKajI'm not telling you to install grub, just to check and edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file16:14
Sbucatexist a boot-up manager for kubuntu ?16:15
LionoI am planning to open a larg internet cafe based on linux. I am not a geek but used linux for a while. i heard that its possible to use as many user accounts simultaniously with only one cpu and may moniters +  key board mice. is that a good idea?16:15
brian_Ah ok I am uninstalling the nVidia Drivers.. This happened before aswell.Do I need to get different Drivers?16:15
icewatermanBluesKaj: i have, but grub is not in mbr anymore16:15
icewatermanso i need to reinstall16:15
icewatermanthat can be done by grub-install /dev/hda16:15
sebastian_dont, install any driver, just let it be16:15
icewatermanbut not for me16:16
icewatermanfor some reason that always fails16:16
sebastian_it usally get screwed up when u install a driver that doesent come with ubuntu16:16
brian_Where can I find the correct drivers for my 6200? Aparently the default ones are wrong..16:16
aos101MGalaxy: It's probably like that in Adept because Adept is run as root (not as your own user), so it is styled according to the settings of the root user.  Go Kicker -> Run Command and run "kdesu kcontrol" and under the themes bit change it to look how you want.16:16
sebastian_download from nvidia, but i dont know how it will work16:17
noaXessi'm searching for a software like submitwolf but for linux... it's for submit websites to search engines.. any hint?16:17
sebastian_or use the update manager16:17
BluesKajicewaterman, did you install windows after installing kubuntu ?16:18
negroayuda pa un novato?16:20
BluesKaj!grub | icewaterman16:20
ubotuicewaterman: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto16:20
BluesKaj!es | negro16:21
ubotunegro: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.16:21
BluesKajde nada16:21
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sebastianitoCan someone help me with installing Java!?16:22
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.16:23
sebastianitoi have16:23
SlimeyPetesebastianito: what's the problem exactly?16:23
sebastianitoi tryed evrything nothing works16:23
sebastianitoi cant get java to work, i have installed the sun java 6 and it still wont work16:23
SlimeyPetehow do you mean "won't work". Do you see an error message?16:23
LynoureSlimeyPete: does not work how?16:24
SlimeyPeteAre you trying to run a .jar, or compile some code, or what?16:24
sebastianitowhen i start a game in firefox, it still says missing plugin16:24
SlimeyPetesebastianito: you've install sun-java6-plugin?16:25
sebastianitolet me check16:25
sebastianitohaha no i didn't16:26
sebastianitoit will probably work now, thx :D16:27
sebastianitoyup, it works16:27
icewatermanBluesKaj: my point is, that i cannot run grub-install because it always fails16:29
icewatermanBluesKaj: i know this howto and i do what it says but i always get grub: asmstub.c:170: grub_stage2: Assertion `ret == 0' failed.16:29
icewatermanTHAT is my problem16:29
wernericewaterman: maybe you should install another version of grub!16:30
icewatermanwerner: ?16:30
icewatermanwerner: that is the default version of grub i use16:30
wernericewaterman: yes, i thought so ... ok, try deinstall and reinstall it (with "purge" !)16:31
icewatermanbtw, though i am on amd64 it seems to be the 32bit version of grub (suppose there is no amd64 version)16:32
icewatermanwerner: even running "grub" does give me the same error16:33
wernericewaterman: oh .. mh .. have you moved stage2 and removed it back?16:36
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO16:36
icewatermanwerner: i removed it and installed it again16:36
icewatermani am not using lvm16:36
wernericewaterman: lvm was not meaning you sorry :-)16:37
icewatermanwerner: np16:37
wernericewaterman: i had sometimes problems with grub, too, and i never saw what could caused the problems ... i reinstalled it , build the disk-table new and run grub-install ...16:39
wernericewaterman: maybe try to minimize first your grubmenu file and try to install grub ...16:39
icewatermanwerner: grub alone doesnt work (not the config file)16:40
icewatermanwerner: when you type grub it should give you the grub console16:40
wernericewaterman: thats right. not even this works?16:43
wernericewaterman: have you tried: apt-get purge grub? and reinstelled it?16:44
icewatermanwerner: tried16:44
wernericewaterman: damn16:44
vamsiHi, can somebody help me with the installation of a small program called emotif? It is a molecular biology related program16:44
wernericewaterman: seems to be a hard one ...16:45
icewatermanwerner: bbl16:45
icewatermanmaybe this is a kernel issue16:45
wernericewaterman: may be... have you build your own one?16:46
icewatermanwerner: it is a kernel issue (i use that pax-security patches)16:46
icewatermanwerner: yes16:46
icewatermanwerner: fixed it16:47
wernericewaterman: than it seems to be, that you are alone with this problem :)16:47
icewatermanwerner: right16:47
werners/the/then *lol*16:47
wernericewaterman: how did you fixed it?16:48
icewatermanwerner: pax has several features that can be disabled on a per binary basis16:48
wernericewaterman: so you thied various configs ... ?16:49
icewatermanwerner: no you can write flags to the header of a binary that pax-enabled kernels read and then allow to run the program with only the restrictions you configured16:50
icewatermanthat way you can disable some features for some binaries and protect the rest.16:51
wernericewaterman: ah, ok, i have no idea of pax :-)  as long as it worx :-)  !16:52
icewatermanyeah, it does16:52
aeterniusHi how is everyone here? I just installed Kubuntu. I am new to linux. When I click on "Add Remove Programs" nothing happens (except the icon bounces) the same thing happens if I click System - Adept Manager.16:52
theThemeHey everyone, I just installed wengo and I'm having problems with the port that is is connecting over, I want to change it to port 16588 but I can't seem to find where that option is16:53
white_eaglewhy is KDE 4 with so sluggish performance at me?16:54
unagican anyone help me wth my resolution? its 1024 x 768 and my screen is 1440 x 90016:54
icewatermanunagi: had a similar problem and no good solution, just a workarround16:54
linuxmanhello everyone! i just tried out kde 4.0... very nice16:55
unagiwork around? my resolution was right before...16:55
ForgeAus:) kewl linuxman :)16:55
linuxmanaltho i think it still needs alot of work...16:55
icewatermanunagi: did you upgrade to 7.10?16:55
aeterniusHi Unagi try; K Menu/ System Settings / Monitor & Display16:55
nodesertis there anyone who can help me about grub.It cant see the windows in boot loader menu.i reinstalled it but nothing changed16:55
unagiaeternius: the max resolution is 1024 x 76816:55
aeterniusoh, I see16:56
icewatermanunagi: your xorg.conf is probably screwed16:56
linuxmannow i have a problem.. i don't think its really big tho!16:56
aeterniusSorry I don't know in that case unagi but good luck I hope you find a fix :)16:56
linuxmani really like kde 4.0 but i want to remove it for now... i tried it out and deleted everything from the panel.. can't seem to get everything back w/a mouse click16:57
unagiwhat could be screwed in the xorg to not let me go higher than 1024 x 76816:57
MGalaxyI have a problem with compiz: http://phpfi.com/29603916:57
linuxmani know there are wigets and stuff.. but the panel is just not working for me16:57
aeterniusWhen I click "Add Remove Programs" nothing happens. How do I add and remove programs?16:58
linuxmani think i'll wait for kde 4.1; how do i remove it from gnome? i tried sudo apt-get remove kde... but the apps are still there16:58
unagican anyone help me troubleshoot why my max resolution is 1024 x 768 but my screen is 1440 x 90016:59
unagilinuxman sudo apt-get remove --purge kde16:59
linuxmanunagi: i have other programs i like that are kde... such as k3b... will they b removed too?17:00
MrJigsawuhm.. is there any chance i can get in contact with my windows sharing's with kubuntu? :)17:01
arcticpenguin380is jfs faster than ext317:02
deniscan anyone help me?17:08
pagdenis, with..?17:09
denisI have a small problem17:09
denisyesterday I installed kubuntu17:09
PiciThat is a problem.17:09
PiciOh, sorry. I should be less sarcastic.17:10
denisand It said that there would be  a system upgrade available17:10
denisyou are funny pici17:10
denisI did everything what it said17:10
denisdownloaded all the files17:10
denisand then kubuntu asked me for a password17:11
denisand it didn't accept mine17:11
PiciDid you set up any additional users, or are you using the same user that you installed the system with?17:11
denisno additional users17:11
denisonly one user17:12
pagdenis, try the command line: sudo apt-get install -f17:12
denisis this once again a ubuntu joke? I know that it had problems with su in former times too17:12
denisit says17:13
denisE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.17:13
jpatrick!aptfix | denis17:14
ubotudenis: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »17:14
MrJigsawhttp://peecee.dk/upload/view/97245/full Does this meen im using 475Mb ram ?17:14
pagdenis, sudo dpkg --configure -a  ? :P17:14
unagican anyone help me figure out why no matter what i do, my max resolution is wrong?17:14
denisperhaps ;-)17:14
deniswhat shell I do?17:15
deniskeep the current files17:16
denisaccept the new one?17:16
jpatrickdenis: keep current17:16
denisit's working17:19
brian_Hey I have about 30g of unpartitioned space on my hard drive.. how do I merge than into my ext3?17:20
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jussi01!info qtparted17:21
ubotuqtparted (source: qtparted): A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu12 (gutsy), package size 206 kB, installed size 720 kB17:21
jussi01brian_: ^^17:21
brian_I am looking at Qtparted but it doesn't give me that option. it lets me format it to ext2, but that's not what I need.17:21
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BluesKajbrian_, try Gparted live cd , more options and easier to use17:23
ubotuGParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/17:23
brian_Ok I will try that. thanks.17:23
coreymon77i just use a kubuntu livecd that has qtparted included17:23
BluesKajgparted is easier17:24
BluesKajand more effective17:24
coreymon77i like qtparted, but thats just my preference17:24
unagiGeneric Monitor doesnt work either17:24
kenoxhow to configure compiz in kubuntu?17:24
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion17:24
unagisame as gnome kenox17:24
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BluesKajkenox,The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion17:25
kenoxhow do i use debs from my current installation to a new one?17:27
denisit s me again17:29
denisI checked adept and it again says that iI have the possibility to upgrade17:29
kenoxi had this problem for a long time now17:29
Edulixis there a command to change a file from a codification to another, ie. from iso-8859-1 to utf-8?17:29
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BluesKajdenis, pls explain17:32
jussi01!aptoncd | kenox17:33
ubotukenox: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers17:33
brian__I was just in this IRC asking how to merge to partitions.. Gparted won't work for me on the live CD for some reason.. It has before but it won't load up.17:34
BluesKajbrian__, Gparted live cd or Qtparted on kubuntu live cd ?17:37
kenoxdoes it make repositories17:37
kenoxor distro?17:37
jussi01kenox: did you read what the bot said?17:37
brian__Well, Qparted doesn't do what I need it to. I loaded Gparted with the konsole, even right now, it's still trying to load the devices.17:38
jussi01kenox: then you know the answer... ;)17:38
BluesKajbrian__, GParted is meant to be burned onto a cd ..it's a bootable cd17:39
ubotuGParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/17:39
kenoxi want to know if it creates just the repositor for the cache folder of apt17:39
jussi01kenox: all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers17:39
brian__Looks like I had my arse backwards, thanks guys17:39
jussi01brian__: :)17:40
brian__You guys rock!17:40
phoenixzIs there a way that I can send emails from the command line? like, mail user@server "subject" "body" ?\17:41
geniiphoenixz: Yes, install mailutils17:41
geniiphoenixz: Then you can do like:  mail -s "subject" someone@somewhere            then type in body, a period when finished17:42
denis<denis> it s me again17:43
denis[18:28] <denis> I checked adept and it again says that iI have the possibility to upgrade17:43
denis[18:29] <denis> If I would upgrade it will again ask for the password at the end17:43
denis[18:29] <denis> which it didn't accept17:43
denis[18:29] <denis> any suggestions how to bypass that problem?17:43
phoenixzgenii, that would be like interactive, not? would it also be possible to do all with one command line? so that I could use that command in a shell script to send mails?17:43
jussi01!paste | denis17:44
ubotudenis: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)17:44
phoenixzgenii, I think echo "the body" | mail user@server -s "subject" :)17:44
geniiphoenixz: You can make the body some text file then:   mail -s "subject" someone@somewhere < bodytextfile17:44
phoenixzdenis, in plain english, you cant paste in here17:44
phoenixzdenis, makes a hell of a mess.. because of that, you use pastebins..17:44
denisI don't know pastebins17:45
phoenixzdenis, No-one is forcing you to be here.. But if you are here, these are the rules17:45
phoenixzdenis, its simple17:45
denisso I will write it again17:45
phoenixzdenis, you paste in a website specially built for these purposes17:45
phoenixzdenis, these websites will give you a link17:45
phoenixzdenis, you post that link here, et voila17:45
denisfor 4 lines?17:46
phoenixzdenis, try rafb.net/paste17:46
denisno thanks17:46
JoshOvkiphoenixz: how long do they keep the paste bins for? I could go look but im lazy and woundered if you knew off hand.17:46
denisI will write it again17:46
jussi01denis: anything over 3 lines you should paste.17:46
denisI installed Kubuntu on my laptop yesterday17:46
phoenixzdenis, if you want somebody to spend 30 minutes to help you its not very nice if you won't even take the 2 minutes to correctly pastebin somehting..17:46
denisI see17:47
jussi01denis: also you could take notte of !enter17:47
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!17:47
phoenixzJoshOvki, it depends on the paste bin site17:47
phoenixzJoshOvki, IIRC, they keep it for about a month, but you can often specify it17:47
JoshOvkiphoenixz: fair enough :) thanks17:47
DunasKubuntu has a list of blisted drivers, right?17:48
denisok, yesterday I installed Kubuntu on my laptop, I checked the updates with adept and it said there would be the possibility to upgrade. I did so but at the end the process asked for my password which it didn accept17:48
phoenixzdenis, in any case, what exactly is your adept problem?17:48
phoenixzdenis, didnt quite understand what you wrote there about the password.. its a problem that adept asks you for a password?17:49
* Dunas watches the torrent download ever so slowly. @.@17:49
phoenixzDunas, blisted drivers?17:49
phoenixzDunas, you mean like closed source drivers?17:49
DunasYes, such as the RTL818x ones.17:49
phoenixzDunas, sorry, don't understand the "blisted" part of it :)17:49
DunasI remember trying Ubuntu, and in order to force this laptop to connect to the internet, I had to modify the blacklisted drivers- I think they refer to the closed source ones, or ones that cause fatal errors.17:50
Dunas...and with 150 kB/s, Bittornado says it'll take three hours more than when it hit 1 kB/s. Oo17:51
phoenixzDunas, Ah, thats more often about malfunctioning drivers I think.. But closed source drivers are also discouraged as they are -officially- illegal.. However, they are not banner AFAIK, you have to use the "restricted driver manager" to install them17:51
unix_infidelanyone know if the ipod touch can do 802.11x authentication yet?17:51
denisso I could't upgrade, the process was blocked. 30 min ago a nice person here helped me to solve the problem. My question is what I have to do to solve the problem when I want to upgrade once again17:52
MrJigsawhttp://peecee.dk/upload/view/97245/full Does this meen im using 475Mb ram ?17:53
Dunasphoenixz, all I remember from that time was that I had to do something in the terminal and remove the RTL818x driver from the list. I think it was "sudo gedit blist" or something.17:53
* JoshOvki taps fingers while headers update17:53
DunasThe Restricted Driver Manager didn't help.17:53
DunasNor, for the record, did ndiswrapper. Oddly enough.17:53
JoshOvkiDunas: did you have to edit  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist   ?17:54
DunasThat's the file.17:54
JoshOvkiDunas: it wasnt something like      echo "blacklist ath_pci" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist    was it?17:54
phoenixzMrJigsaw, I guess it does17:54
Dunas...no, not that complex.17:55
phoenixzDunas, what JoshOvki says..17:55
DunasI had to open it in gedit and remove the rtl818x drive from the list. The wireless worked perfectly following that.17:55
phoenixzDunas, I mean, Im pretty sure you're talking about that file17:55
phoenixzDunas, you could open it using gedit yeah, but you'd have to use sudo to edit it as root user17:56
* JoshOvki goes back into his corner and allows phoenixz to sort it out17:56
phoenixzDunas, then you can comment out the driver using #17:56
DunasRight. "sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist"17:56
phoenixzDunas, yeap17:56
DunasI was wondering if Kubuntu had something similar, since that was the only way this crappy integrated card would work.17:56
unagican anyone help me figure out why ubuntu doesnt give me the right resolution?17:58
JoshOvkiunagi: have you tryed to edit your xorg.conf  yet?17:58
phoenixzunagi, ubuntu or kubuntu? IIRC, kubuntu has some problem with getting the right screen resolution17:58
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto17:58
phoenixz!resolution | unagi17:59
ubotuunagi: please see above17:59
phoenixzDunas, on what other system did you try this then?17:59
phoenixzDunas, try cat  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist17:59
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DunasThis one. I eventually had to go back to Windows XP for other reasons that aren't present now.18:00
thomas_newbie__how can i check if I have arpd installed? or any package for that matter18:01
thomas_newbie__can i query with apt-get?18:01
phoenixzDunas, and try find /lib/modules/ -name *818*18:01
phoenixzthomas_newbie__, Not 100% but apt-cache should be able to help you with that.. try man apt-cache18:03
JoshOvkithomas_newbie__ try   sudo apt-get install arpd   it will tell you if it is installed and if it isnt it will ask you do you want to install18:03
unagistill doesnt work18:04
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto18:04
JoshOvkithomas_newbie__ or if you run   apt-cache pkgnames    it should give you a full list of applications installed on ur pc18:05
alromaithiguys what is plasmoids and how to install please18:05
thomas_newbie__JoshOvki: aw cool18:06
thomas_newbie__well i found it18:06
phoenixzalromaithi, thats a KDE4 feature, and you need to install / use KDE4 to use it18:06
thomas_newbie__i'm using honeyd and i'm trying to set up a honeypot....any help or references?18:07
alromaithii have kde 4  :D  but where is the options for it and to put my plasmoids downloads that i got from kde?18:07
phoenixzalromaithi, if you're using kubuntu, you can add a KDE4 repository to install KDE4 right next to your current KDE3 to try it18:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about plasmoids - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about plasma - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:07
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phoenixzalromaithi, I'd suggest google :) Im not an expert yet18:08
phoenixzthomas_newbie__, google, and maybe there is a honey channel on freenode?18:08
JoshOvkialromaithi:  try installing    extragear-plasma   p.s. this should be asked in  #kubuntu-kde418:08
jussi01alromaithi: join #kubuntu-kde4 for kde4 support18:08
thomas_newbie__phoenixz: i checked and no18:09
alromaithii googled but google queries kde-look.org plasmoids stuff but not the project phoenixz18:09
flatsIs there any way to play drm files in Ubuntu yet?  For instance, I'm trying to use netflix to play an online movie but it says of course it needs IE and Media player.  Is there a way to play that in linux?18:09
JoshOvkithomas_newbie__: interesting subject honey pots. I've been using one in university for the past year. But thats on a windows 2003 server18:10
geniiinstall User Agent Switcher extension for Firefox, then tell it to pretend you're running IE7 and vista18:10
phoenixzflats,  you *could* try mplayer.. if it works, let me know :)18:10
phoenixzthomas_newbie__, in that case, google..18:11
Level15hi all18:11
unagii dont understand why i cant have the right resolution18:11
Level15anyone experienced broken KDE today after installing language updates?18:11
phoenixzunagi, Using 2 monitors?18:11
alromaithiphoenixz: i have something to say which gave me a headache since i talked about Ubuntu for everybody18:12
phoenixzLevel15, what is broken exactly?18:12
unagiphoenixz: no18:12
phoenixzalromaithi, say what? :)18:12
Level15phoenixz, nearly all kde apps fail to initialize. msg on console says kdecore (KLocale): WARNING: Definition of PluralForm is none of NoPlural/TwoForms/French/OneTwoRest/Russian/Polish/Slovenian/Lithuanian/Czech/Slovak/Arabic/Balcan/Macedonian/Gaeilge/Maltese: Definition of PluralForm - to be set by the translator of kdelibs.po18:12
alromaithiphoenixz: they say it sux :(  because i cant prove that its good and looks glossy , the reason is beacause i dont know how to make it look glossy18:12
Level15this started happening after installing updates today, and is happening both on desktop and laptop18:13
phoenixzalromaithi, ah.. Well, compiz usually does the trick quite nicely.. 50% of people I've shown it actually convert within the day.. :)18:13
phoenixzalromaithi, in about 1 more month I guess, when KDE4 is ironed out (read, stable enough), KDE4 will DEFINATELY convert people.. KDE4 is like the definition for glossy I suppose18:13
alromaithiphoenixz: i can make ubuntu look glossy and cool because its easy to do such thing for gnome , but in KDE Kubuntu its very hard and complicated i  get a headache i sometimes stay for 8 days in a row just wasting my time gazing on the PC  trying to make it look glossy but in th eend i get pissed and go and do something crazy because of such tiring pain18:14
phoenixzLevel15, that does sound like a prob. yeah.. Id recommend doing a reinstall of the kde libs with adept manager..18:14
alromaithiphoenixz: i have compiz but now with KDE4 compiz is not supported18:14
JoshOvkialromaithi you see the link i pasted in the the other channel?18:14
Level15phoenixz, adept doesn't start either :-P though i can do it by hand...18:15
phoenixzKDE4 should work with compiz, but it actuallyu doesnt need it, it has its own render engine18:15
phoenixzalromaithi, read the above18:15
phoenixzLevel15, in that case, apt-get18:15
jussi01alromaithi: you need to keep your kde4 questions to #kubuntu-kde4 :)18:15
phoenixzLevel15, not sure if it works, but try apt-get update kde*18:15
Level15phoenixz, it's just kind of outrageous that the updates break the system...18:15
phoenixzLevel15, it would be yeah, but Ive had a near problem these past few days too.. it was only because of cautiously checking the update list that I saw that kubuntu would remove some 20% of my software, bu accident. it was fixed in the hour..18:16
phoenixzLevel15, its a slip up I guess.. A bad one, surely18:17
alromaithiphoenixz:  your saying KDE4 is better then compiz? i thought compiz is the only one with magic lamp minmize and closing sidekicks with great rain and snow with leaf  aside s falling and cover tabing and etc..18:17
Level15phoenixz, yeah... pretty bad one... thanks god it's KDE, not something more vital like apache, LDAP or samba18:18
phoenixzalromaithi, not saying its better.. Its built in for one, so really part of kde.. that would be better I suppose.. Worse would be that its missing many of the special effects that compiz has.. but that would be a #kubuntu-kde4 channel discussion..18:18
phoenixzLevel15, strange still that it breaks.. I mean, this one time adept would simply remove packages by accident.. but not break them18:19
Level15phoenixz, yeah... I'm actually surprised noone else has experienced it ... i thought I'd find a ton of people trying to fix it here on the channel18:19
phoenixzLevel15, Meaning you probably did something out of the ordinary... probably..18:21
phoenixzLevel15, using any 3rd party repos?18:21
Level15phoenixz, in the laptop, i did install kde4 but removed it later and switched back to the official repos. On the desktop, no unofficial repos18:21
phoenixzLevel15, Im using the kde4 repo as well but its from kubuntu itself, which should work ok (besides that minor delete lots of stuff problem I had, which was kde4 repo related)18:22
Level15i think that when 8.04 comes out i'll reinstall from scratch... maybe will give a try to ubuntu too18:23
MrJigsawWhy is amarok SO fucked up :S ?!18:23
jussi01!ohmy | MrJigsaw18:24
ubotuMrJigsaw: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.18:24
MrJigsawWhen i add number to a playlist, and plays the playlist, it just erases my collection ;S18:24
phoenixzLevel15, for the time being.. try a reinstall of all kde related files18:24
phoenixzMrJigsaw, it erases files from disk?18:24
Level15phoenixz, yeah, i'm on that right now18:24
MrJigsawfrom collection18:24
phoenixzMrJigsaw, Amarok rocks over here.. If you have a problem with it, try the #amarok channel18:26
phoenixzMrJigsaw, more chance they will help you there18:26
MrJigsawoh, dident know there was a such :)18:26
MilhousePunkRockHello everyone!18:27
ubotuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/18:27
unagimy lord this doesnt make any sense, if i have to reinstall kubuntu to fix a resolution problem, thats the end of linux for me18:27
jpatrick!msgthebot > MilhousePunkRock18:27
stratman4300unagi: your still working on that resolution issue from yesterday??18:28
unagii guess kind of18:28
unagii got the driver working but the resolution is wrong18:28
unagiall i want is 1440 x 900 to work18:28
Lionohow to do this - one os on the server....has accounts..... users as clients using on diferent machings. ?18:28
Lionoeach user has seperate account and seperate client machine. (making a net cafe)18:28
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stratman4300unagi: in the modes section in you xorg.conf file in the 24bit section do you have somehthing that reads 1440x900???18:29
MilhousePunkRockLiono: Kiosk mode might be what you are looking for18:29
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LionoMilhousePunkRock whats that do18:29
stratman4300but kde won't let you set it to that??18:30
MilhousePunkRockLiono: I don't really know... Google probably knows ;) Basically it should be possible...18:30
unagikde nor nvidia-settings18:30
stratman4300unagi: what you could do is remove all other resolution entries EXCEPT 1440x900 from the 24bit field, thus forcing X to use 1440X900....  it's worth a shot18:31
unagithere are no other resolutions18:31
stratman4300how did you end up getting the driver to work??18:31
jussi01unagi: there is a preffered res setting you can add to xorg IIRC, dont remeber the correct syntax though18:32
unagijussi01: wouldnt that require the res setting to be available in the settings already?18:32
stratman4300unagi: what solved your issue with the driver...  i'm just wondering for future reference18:34
unagii dont remember18:34
unagii guess i just reinstalled it18:34
stratman4300did it work after i walked you through recomiling it yesterday??18:34
stratman4300i had to go so didn't find out18:35
unagii dont remember what exactly i had to do to get ubuntu to use nvidia18:35
stratman4300have you tried googling the resolution problems??18:35
MilhousePunkRockunagi: Did you try nvidia-settings already?18:35
unagiwhat am i trying in nvidia-settings18:36
MilhousePunkRockunagi: Setting the resolution, the KDE control center section for displays is a bit flaky...18:36
unagineither of them allow me to choose 1440 x 90018:36
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MilhousePunkRockIs your screen capable of it?18:37
denisI have a problem to upgrade18:37
unagiit is the screens only resolution18:37
MilhousePunkRock!es | negro18:37
ubotunegro: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.18:37
genii!sp | negro18:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:37
geniiah, es, I forgot Espana18:38
MilhousePunkRockdenis: Will it be Problem 2.0 afterwards? ;)18:38
negroun cable xfa18:38
negrotngo kbuntu instalao y kiero volver a xp18:39
negropro no me arranca dsd cd instalacion18:39
negrod xp18:39
negrok hago?18:39
denismilhouse: my system doesn't want to upgrade because it doesn accept my password18:39
MilhousePunkRocknegro: This is the english channel, the spanish channels are those that ubotu told you18:39
jussi01negro: type: /join #kubuntu-es18:39
shastryis there a way i can disable a module from loading on boot in grub?18:39
shastryi have to disable intel-agp to even boot the live cd... which i need info on how to accomplish18:40
tim|imachi all, can someone please paste me a sources.list that is usuable to apt-get dist-upgrade from Debian etch to Kubuntu? I can't seem to find the correct sources.list :S18:40
Level15phoenixz, OK, reinstall did not help18:40
jussi01!blacklist | shastry18:40
ubotushastry: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »18:40
genii Me disculpo pero el español no es mi lengua materna.18:40
shastryjussi01: that wont help. i cant even boot the install disk18:40
Level15genii, just english on this channel, please18:40
geniiLevel15: I'm trying :)18:41
JoshOvkienglish and geek :)18:41
MilhousePunkRocktim|imac: I guess that will reinstall everything...18:41
phoenixzLevel15, same problem? sounds more like a config problem then18:41
denisI want to upgrade from 7.06 to 7.1018:41
Level15hey, seriously, none of you ended up with broken kde after today's language update?18:41
Level15phoenixz, yeah, same stuff18:41
TimStim|imac: You cant.18:41
phoenixzLevel15, problem then would be.. eeh.. I'd purge everything and reinstall, with apt-get as well.18:42
geniiLevel15: I went to an online transaltion and tried to tell negro: I apologise but spanish is not my language18:42
tim|imacMilhousePunkRock: yeah, but the Kubuntu 7.10 iso i just downloaded won't give me a live desktop in parallels :S18:42
MilhousePunkRockdenis: You will need to know the sudo password after all...18:42
Level15genii, Oh, ok :P18:42
denisI do know it18:42
phoenixzLevel15, problem is, purging kde files will also purge everything above that, so you'd have to reinstall all of that..18:42
denisonly one account18:42
Level15i don't have time for that now18:42
denisbut it doesn accept it18:42
MilhousePunkRockdenis: Does it say the password is wrong? Does it say that for all super user actions?18:43
phoenixzLevel15, your situation sucks18:43
phoenixzay, pardon my french18:43
dragsta_denis, have you testet sudo on console?18:43
Level15phoenixz, indeed it does18:43
Level15BIG TIME18:43
denissudo works18:43
phoenixzLevel15, Im trying to think of another solution.. Have you tried google yet?18:43
MilhousePunkRocktim|imac: Isn't parallels some virtualising thing? I am pretty sure there are pre-made images (like there are for vmware)18:43
phoenixzLevel15, Im sure the problem is small in reality, just the results a re a bit bigger18:44
denisyes, it says that the password is wrong, but only in this case18:44
dragsta_why don't you upgrade with apt/aptitude?18:44
tim|imaci don't want premade images, i want my own partition scheme :P but if someone can paste me a sources.list, I can solve my problems :)18:44
MilhousePunkRocktim|imac: Just a regular sources.list?18:44
tim|imacyeah, more than enough, I'll localise it for nl myself :)18:44
stratman4300unagi: look at this link.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto18:45
phoenixzLevel15, You could first simulate a purge and get a list of packages that would be removed.. copy that list to a file, then purge, then install from that file.. that way you dont have to remember what packages to install18:45
Level15phoenixz, to be honest, I am really close to make a backup and reinstall the whole OS18:45
phoenixzLevel15, This procedure would not take much longer because if you just reinstalled kde* you should have all the packages in the apt cache still..18:45
phoenixzLevel15, THAT would probably be even better :)18:46
MilhousePunkRocktim|imac: http://pastebin.ca/90151418:47
Level15phoenixz, i'll give it a try your way, if it fails i'll reinstall... not necessarily kubuntu18:47
tim|imacMilhousePunkRock: thx!18:47
unagistratman4300: i have looked at that many times it doesnt work18:48
stratman4300unagi: what type of monitor do you have and what size is it??18:48
unagiits a laptop 15inch18:48
stratman4300unagi: wide??18:48
denisI will retry upgrading now18:49
stratman4300unagi: what type of laptop make and modle please18:49
unagihp dv6000t18:49
phoenixzLevel15, good luck18:50
Level15phoenixz, thanks18:50
stratman4300unagi: and it has an nvidia video card??18:50
stamenhow can I uninstall kde418:51
denisperhaps it will work this time18:51
denissee you later18:51
blekoshello, could u tell me the equivelant of gparted for kde?18:51
stratman4300unagi: that model has known issues with wide screen resolution.....   looking through work arounds right now18:51
stamenblekos: qtparted18:51
unagiit worked before18:51
stratman4300unagi: yeah i know....  they seem to be intermitten issues....  the wiki even says...  "sometimes"  lol18:52
stratman4300unagi: still reading18:52
unagiit has worked ever since ive had ubuntu, it only stopped when i screwed up xorg18:52
flatsANy idea why I can see a data DVD in my CD-Rom but when I put a movie DVD in, nothing happens?18:52
jussi01!dvd | flats18:53
ubotuflats: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs18:53
stratman4300unagi: download this program for your distro this will install the propritary nvidia drivers and may solve your issue http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html18:54
unagioh no no no no18:54
unagilast time i did that it crippled my machine18:54
stratman4300you've used envy??18:55
unagiproprietary drivers18:55
stratman4300i used this to install my drivers and it runs like a champ18:55
stratman4300not a singal issue18:55
stratman4300it's really a slick little program though....  totally up to you....  but i've experienced no problems with it or the propritary nvidia drivers.18:56
jussi01!envy | stratman430018:59
ubotustratman4300: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »18:59
jussi01stratman4300: we dont encourage envy here. Please dont suggest it19:00
stratman4300jussi01: sorry..  :| didn't know it was frowned upon....   he was just having resolution problems with the open-source driver. figured if could try a different driver it would help him troubleshot19:01
jussi01stratman4300: thats ok you didnt know, and now you do :)19:02
BluesKajDid an dapt update , now the kicker and panel crashed and are MIA (disappeared) ...what's the procedure to get them back ?19:11
BluesKajerradept update19:11
jussi01BluesKaj: alt+f2 -> kicker ?19:11
BluesKajtried that jussi01 , crash handler pops up19:13
JoshOvkiim just installing the updates on my desktop now, i will see if it affects it19:14
JoshOvkii really hope not cause i did the updates on my laptop earlier but havnt restarted yet19:14
MrJigsawHow do i mount my harddrive ?19:14
jussi01BluesKaj: ouch19:14
BluesKaj JoshOvki it crashed in the middle of a burn , while using K3B19:15
JoshOvki!mount :Mrjigsaw19:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mount :mrjigsaw - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:15
jussi01BluesKaj: was there a kernel update? does it need a restart?19:15
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter19:15
BluesKajyeah , there was a kernel update and I restarted19:15
Dragonathhey, any way to listen to streaming media that requires realplayer on kubuntu?19:16
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MrJigsawDosent help me much, JoshOvki.19:16
jussi01BluesKaj: did you have custom settings you could remove via the . folder?19:16
Level15any kubuntu devels here?19:16
JoshOvkiMrJigsaw:  Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem   mounting partitions should be the same process as drives19:17
Level15well, in case anyone is interested, language settings for english canada en_CA break KDE19:17
jussi01Level15: Id suggest #kubuntu-devel might have a few, but be very polite.19:17
MrJigsawWell.. and what when im in there ?19:17
jussi01!bug | Level15:19:17
ubotuLevel15:: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots19:17
Level15use qt-language-selector to switch to en_US19:18
MrJigsawI cant seem to find anywhere that says 'mount' :|19:18
jussi01Level15: make sure you report the bug so it gets fixed19:18
Level15jussi01: oks19:18
JoshOvkiMrJigsaw: does the drive not show up?19:18
MrJigsawyes it does..19:19
MrJigsawtheyre all there..19:19
JoshOvkiClick  Administrator Mode  and login, the select the drive and press new, it will then allow you to create a new mount19:20
JoshOvkiBluesKaj: whats crashing for you?19:20
MrJigsawThanks, JoshOvki. :-)19:21
jussi01unagi: have you posted your problem to the forums?19:23
jetsaredimare there enough packages in the hardy repos to be able to build and install more plasmoids from kde-look?19:25
jussi01jetsaredim: #kubuntu-kde4 for kde4 support :)19:26
* jetsaredim didn't know there was a separate channel19:27
JoshOvki\join #kubuntu-kde419:30
BluesKaj_solved the Kicker and panel crash by resetting it in kcontrol19:30
jussi01BluesKaj_: heh, excellent19:31
BluesKaj_yeah jussi01 , I was worried for a min or 2 :)19:31
BluesKaj_prolly had too much going on simultaneously19:32
MrJigsawJoshOvki: What should i call my mount points? Is it just like names on harddrives ?19:32
jussi01 MrJigsaw whatever you like that makes you remember them19:34
JoshOvkiMrJigsaw: what jussi01 said, something that when you need to know which drive you are accessing you can be certian19:35
BluesKaj_BBL ...need to reset the router as well, still got a few probs here19:35
sebastian_any one know how to fix a ftp server without using package manager19:38
sebastian_adept manager*19:38
jussi01sebastian_: depends on the issue, whats wrong ith it?19:39
orbitizeWhen I start my computer, first I have to login with user/pw, then start kdm with sudo, and then I can log in normally. What can I do to fix this?19:39
MrJigsawi cant get it working19:39
sebastian_i dont have a ftpserver i just want to install one, u know where i can get one?19:40
MrJigsawCan it be true that i just lost all data at one of my 500GB harddrives because i tried to mount ?19:41
sebastian_where can i get an ftp server!?19:42
sluzbahello, please, how name have czech kubuntu irc?19:42
sebastian_where can i get an ftp server!?19:43
jussi01!cz | sluzba19:43
ubotusluzba: České uživatele žádáme, aby mluvili v kanále #ubuntu anglicky. Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Děkujeme.19:43
jussi01!ot | juckum19:43
ubotujuckum: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!19:43
sluzbayea, no kubuntu, but ubuntu :D, thanks19:43
sebastian_where can i get an ftp server!?19:44
sebastian_where can i get an ftp server!?19:44
sebastian_where can i get an ftp server!?19:44
sebastian_where can i get an ftp server!?19:44
jussi01sebastian_: please dont do that19:44
sebastian_can someone help me?19:44
ubotuFTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP19:44
jussi01!patience | sebastian_19:44
ubotusebastian_: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines19:44
jussi01sebastian_: so sudo apt-get install ftpd will get yu a ftp server19:45
MrJigsawUuuhm.. what dos this means: http://peecee.dk/upload/view/97272/full19:45
sebastian_ok thx a lot :)19:46
sebastian_Errors were encountered while processing:19:47
sebastian_ runit19:47
sebastian_E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)19:47
sebastian_why did i get that message?19:47
jussi01sebastian_: are you on hardy or gutsy?19:48
sebastian_what do u mean?19:48
jussi01sebastian_: which version of Kubuntu are you running?19:48
sebastian_the newest one,19:49
sebastian_dont know what number:P19:49
jussi01!release | sebastian_19:49
ubotusebastian_: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases19:49
MrJigsawhttp://peecee.dk/upload/view/97272/full <- How do i fix this? :(19:50
sebastian_i downloaded it yesturday so it is the newest19:50
jussi01sebastian_: Please do in terminal: lsb_release -a19:54
arcticpenguin380is there a way to convert a filesystem19:54
sebastian_release: 7.10 :)19:54
MrJigsawNoone can help me on this:19:54
sebastian_codename, gutsy19:54
sluzbaplease, how can i repair this:? cp: will not overwrite just-created `.../ntfs.ko' with `.../ntfs.ko'19:54
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jussi01sebastian_: ok. try in terminal: sudo apt-get install -f19:55
sebastian_Errors were encountered while processing:19:56
sebastian_ runit19:56
sebastian_E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (119:56
bmk789kmail has a message stuck in the inbox that i cant delete, how should i get rid of it?19:56
jussi01sebastian_: how did you try to install runit ?19:56
sebastian_i havent installed it, i dont even know what it is19:58
sluzbaplease, can you help me?20:00
sebastian_jussi01, what can i do?20:00
jussi01sluzba: what do you need20:00
epsilornhi all!! Fairly new to Kubuntu, i'm trying to install latest alsa building the .deb but I've got this problem: could not find any packages for libasound.so.220:00
jussi01sebastian_: wait until someone who knows comes? try posting on ubuntuforums.org?20:00
sebastian_what is the problem with the install then?20:01
jussi01epsilorn: 32bit install?20:01
epsilornthe problem is that when i do the debuild binary command it doesn't find that file (i tihink) but i have libasound installed so...20:01
nhyu For some reason there are certain apps in gnome that won't work .... or lag.... kinda like they not refresh when I run them. When I combine Rhythmbox with Amsn, this happens... they get white with borders but no content. I installed KDE recentlly, has this something to do. Is there a way to reset gnome?20:01
jussi01epsilorn: got libasound2 installed?20:02
epsilornyes 32bit20:02
sebastian_jussi01, what is the problem with the installation?20:02
epsilornyes libasound2 installed that's what's strange20:02
jussi01sebastian_: I dont know. I suggest you be patient or google or post on the forums (or all 3)20:03
jussi01epsilorn: yeah, a little.20:03
sebastian_ok thx20:04
jussi01epsilorn: whats the reason you need the latest alsa20:04
epsilorni downloaded the latest kernel headers and sound stopped working, so i thought.. well as i have to install it again why not downloading the latest version?20:04
jussi01epsilorn: out of curiosity, which sound card?20:05
epsilorna part tha i have prbolems with headpphones jack not recognized20:05
epsilornHDA Intel (i'm on laptop)20:05
jussi01!intelhda | epsilorn20:06
ubotuepsilorn: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto20:06
nhyuIs there a way to remove all those apps that came with KDE when I installed it from the repositories?20:06
nhyuIn gnome20:06
epsilornthanks i'll read this20:06
sluzbajussi01: please, how can i repair this:? cp: will not overwrite just-created `.../ntfs.ko' with `.../ntfs.ko'20:07
jussi01sluzba: what did you do to cause that?20:08
jussi01sluzba: were you installing something?20:08
MrJigsawAnyone can help me with this: http://peecee.dk/upload/view/97272/full ??20:08
sluzbajussi01: i am installing openwrt-midge, and during copy of modules, it is happend20:12
LynoureMrJigsaw: you could tempt more people to look at it by providing a summary... and more context to those who look... Is there a disk with label Storage?20:13
jussi01sluzba: Im not sure on that one sorry20:13
MrJigsawLynoure: nope.. i have one with label Storage Area20:13
LynoureMrJigsaw: that could explain it then, if you have stuff in fstab for just Storage   (not sure how well fstab deals with names with whitespace)20:15
jussi01MrJigsaw: ahh, maybe try adding a \ after storage20:15
jussi01ie. Storage\ Area20:16
jussi01MrJigsaw: or removing the space from the name20:17
thomas_newbie__anyone know how to start arpd?20:22
jussi01thomas_newbie__: exactly what is arpd?20:24
oloughlin75Is there a way to fix my files if amarok currupted them?20:24
MrJigsawWhy cant i just mount that stupid harddrive..20:24
MrJigsawKeeps comming up with new fails..20:24
jussi01MrJigsaw: what now?20:24
thomas_newbie__jussi01: ARP Daemon20:24
MrJigsawjussi01: im trying to enable and mount a harddrive, but it just WONT work..20:25
ashmaushow do I "unlock" a folder?20:25
jussi01MrJigsaw: yeah, I know. what is the error now20:25
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MrJigsawUploading picture, 2 secs.20:28
oloughlin75Whats the program for widgets called? Like karamba or something?20:28
jussi01!info superkaramba20:28
ubotusuperkaramba (source: kdeutils): a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 533 kB, installed size 1424 kB20:28
ziut3ki dont know20:28
ziut3kuse kde or gnome ?20:28
ashmausOr how do I change the permissions of a folder?20:29
oloughlin75right click -> propeties -> permissions20:30
ubotuAn explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview20:30
MrJigsawjussi01: http://peecee.dk/upload/view/97284 <- Thats whats happening now.. :(20:31
ashmausit says only the owner can change permissions. They were created by an install program20:31
ziut3kja pierdole20:31
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »20:31
jussi01MrJigsaw: Im off to bed. hopefully someone else can help20:31
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jussi01!en | ziut3k20:31
ubotuziut3k: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat20:31
MrJigsawCan anyone help whit this.. Im trying to mount/enable (dno wtf its doing) a harddrive, and i get this message: http://peecee.dk/upload/view/9728420:32
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yakuzidoes anyone know how to add an option to the right-click menu you got when you right clck on our desktop?20:35
pietjephuckQuestion; is the rss feed likly to be fixed?20:37
pietjephuckwrong channel20:37
Arwenhas a patch been fixed for that local root exploit?20:37
oloughlin75where does superkaramba keep its widgets?20:37
Arwenbeen released*20:37
nodeserthow can ı generate source.list:20:39
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delirious1im drinking beer20:45
delirious1i woke up20:45
delirious1i was going to bed early tonight20:45
delirious1and then poff out of dream world20:45
delirious1it was a dream about hotdogs, but i didnt eat one when i woke up20:46
delirious1i decided to drink beer instead20:46
delirious1and this is a good idea20:46
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mattelacchiatohi everyone20:46
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delirious1what s up?20:46
mattelacchiatooh, actually i try to execute a command if i plug in an harddrive. but i don't know how :-)20:47
yakuziproblem solved, no need for answer anymore20:47
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delirious1execucution sounds like a n idea20:48
mattelacchiatoi don't understand, delirious120:48
delirious1it was nothing sorrry20:50
pietjephuckdelirious1: execurtion is nothing?20:50
pietjephuckdelirious1: execution is nothing?20:50
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pietjephuckI need a spell checker :(20:51
mattelacchiatouseless for an irc-chat, pietjephuck20:51
ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.20:51
pietjephuckmattelacchiato: lol20:51
MrJigsawCan anyone help whit this.. Im trying to mount/enable (dno wtf its doing) a harddrive, and i get this message: http://peecee.dk/upload/view/9728420:52
mefisto__Konversation question: can I set it up to autoconnect on startup (instead of displaying the server list and waiting for input)?20:53
nosrednaekimmefisto__➜ yeah20:54
mefisto__nevermind, think I got it20:54
oloughlin75mefisto__: Get it?20:55
mattelacchiatoMrJigsaw: There seems to be no disk with the labe "Storage"20:55
mefisto__oloughlin75: yep20:55
oloughlin75What is a program to make fractals?20:56
unagiwhy cant i have the right resolution anymore, this doesnt make a lick of sense20:56
MrJigsawmattelacchiato: what do i have to do then ?20:56
mattelacchiatohave you edited the /etc/fstab by your own?20:57
mefisto__why don't they use the kubuntu logo in kmenu by default? That K with the gears is so ugly20:57
nosrednaekimmefisto__➜ you mean on the side?20:58
mefisto__nosrednaekim: the icon on the button that pops up the menu20:58
MrJigsawmattelacchiato: so you have a sugestion what i should do ? :)20:58
nosrednaekimmefisto__➜ oh..... in kde4?20:59
mefisto__nosrednaekim: gutsy (and all previous). I don't remember what kde4 kubuntu looks like20:59
nosrednaekimmefisto__➜ ah ok, well you can replace that image with another one if you would like/21:00
mattelacchiatowhat have you tried before to make it run, MrJigsaw21:00
arcticpenguin380why does adept crash when trying to find the fastest mirror21:00
MrJigsawJust tried alot of names and mount pointes at stuff.21:01
mefisto__nosrednaekim: yes I usually do, but sometimes updates overwrite the change and go back to the ugly non-kubuntu kde default21:01
nosrednaekimmefisto__➜ right <_<21:02
mefisto__nosrednaekim: actually I don't even use kmenu any more. :) tasty menu replaced it21:02
MrJigsawmattelacchiato: can you tell me what i should write in 'Mount Point' and 'by label' to make it work? :/21:02
unagican someone help me get ubuntu to display 1440 x 90021:03
nosrednaekimmefisto__➜ heh..... well, that works21:03
mattelacchiatoMrJigsaw: Mountpoint is the dir, where the diskentries should appear. "by label" is the name of the disk-label21:03
sub[t]rnlMrJigsaw➜ you understand that Mount Point is a destination right?  as in, the actual (real) directory where the device should be mounted at21:03
MrJigsawWhere can i get the name of disk label ?21:04
MrJigsawYes sub[t]rnl i get that..21:04
mattelacchiatoMrJigsaw: "vol_id <device-file>"21:04
MrJigsawMore specifik please.. im new to linux :)21:05
mattelacchiatoMrJigsaw: You know, that all your devices can be found in /dev?21:05
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mefisto__unagi: I had a screen res problem, for about a week I tried to get 1280x1024 to stick. the solution for me was to add >> Option "PreferredMode"  "1280x1024" << in the monitor section of xorg.conf21:05
mattelacchiatoso just open a terminal and run "sudo fdisk -l"21:06
mattelacchiatothere you see all your partitions21:06
mattelacchiatocan you figure out, which one of them is your disk you want to mount?21:06
MrJigsawye i think so..21:07
MrJigsawive been givin in mount point /media/sdc and theres one with that :)21:07
MrJigsawwell /dev/sdc it is ;/21:07
mattelacchiato /dev/sdc is the filename of the whole disk. but you need the filename of the partition21:08
mattelacchiatoe.g. /dev/sdc121:08
mattelacchiatoyou can see the filenames in the output from "sudo fdisk -l"21:09
MrJigsawDevice Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System21:09
MrJigsaw/dev/sdb1   *           1       60801   488384001    721:09
MrJigsaw HPFS/NTFS -21:09
MrJigsaw Disk /dev/sdc: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes21:09
MrJigsawuhm.. i think thats it ?21:09
sub[t]rnlit gets even easier if you just use system settings -> advanced -> disk & filesystem.  It will have a graphical representation of sudo fdisk -l with point and click options..21:10
mattelacchiatothat's the whole disk21:10
mattelacchiatoah, okay. i'm not so well schooled in the graphical configuration... :-)21:11
sub[t]rnlcli is all i use, but its nice to recommend the gui for the newer guys, specially when its so nicely laid out. :D21:11
mefisto__sub[t]rnl: but that particular dialog doesn't always work predictably21:11
MrJigsaw-damn.. i think my client at kubuntu froze21:12
MrJigsaw-mattelacchiato, so did you say anything while i was gone ?21:12
MrJigsaw-Damn :|21:12
MrJigsaw-Stupid harddisk and mounting :(((((21:12
cipriancould someone help me with a problem regarding compiling gammu with kmobiletools?21:13
sub[t]rnlciprian➜ ask away21:13
MrJigsaw-sub[t]rnl,  do you have any solution ? :/21:13
mefisto__MrJigsaw-: yeah, mounting could be more automated and easier21:13
stratman4300mrjigsaw: what is the type of filesystem on the hard drive your trying to mount???21:13
MrJigsaw-stratman4300,  its ntfs21:15
* Cap is away: Gone away for now.21:15
|MrJigsaw|mefisto__: how to then ?21:16
sub[t]rnlread up on fstab21:16
|MrJigsaw|Ive been trying for hours in System Settings -> Advanced -> Disks And Filesystems  :|21:16
cipriani get the following error message: http://www.kmobiletools.org/uieforum?c=showthread&ThreadID=3221:16
stratman4300Mrjigsaw in the command line try sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/(your hard drive and partition here) /(path to the place you want to mount it to)21:16
|MrJigsaw|How do i find partitation name i guess? :S21:17
stratman4300is it /dev/sdb1??21:18
|MrJigsaw|device @ disks and filesystem right ?21:18
stratman4300let's say you want to mount it to /home/mrjigsaw/newHD....   you would run this command  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /home/mrjigsaw/newHD21:18
stratman4300mrjigsaw: you would run that in konsole21:19
|MrJigsaw|i get that..21:19
|MrJigsaw|fuse: failed to access mountpoint /home/mrjigsaw/newHD: No such file or directory <-21:19
sub[t]rnlciprian➜ you see the error message right, where its looking for 'data'?21:20
mefisto__|MrJigsaw|: you have to create the directory you are mounting to first, if it doesn't exist21:20
stratman4300mrjigsaw: ohh   you have to make that folder first..    mkdir /home/mrjigsaw/newHD21:20
|MrJigsaw|Seems like it went trough21:20
stratman4300now navigate to that folder and see if your files are there21:20
sub[t]rnlciprian➜ Replace "data()" with "latin1()" in that line.21:21
|MrJigsaw|Yeeeees!! stratman4300 youre my hero <321:21
|MrJigsaw|Let me send you a virtual beer ;P21:21
stratman4300LOL....  cheers then....21:21
stratman4300glad it worked21:21
nosrednaekim!helpersnack | stratman430021:21
ubotustratman4300: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!21:21
mefisto__|MrJigsaw|: normally you would mount disks in /media eg, /media/windows or /media/sdb1 or whatever you want it to be21:21
|MrJigsaw|mefisto__: i think im going to now :>21:21
cipriani`ll try right now21:21
sub[t]rnlciprian➜ okies21:22
stratman4300mrjigsaw: yup i was just using that folder as an example but you can mount them anywhere you like with that command21:22
mefisto__|MrJigsaw|: mounting that way is not permanent. next reboot, you would need to do the mount command again21:22
|MrJigsaw|I think actually ill leave it for now.. dont wanna fuck it more up rigt now :P21:22
|MrJigsaw|mefisto__: how do i make it permanent then? :/21:22
stratman4300mrjigsaw: the command to unmount is sudo umount /dev/sdb121:22
stevarinohi all, i just installed kubuntu (switching from plain ubuntu) and am wondering if there is a starter guide available? also it seems there are no repositories stored in my system :\21:23
mefisto__|MrJigsaw|: you need to add a line in /etc/fstab file21:23
mefisto__mine has this: /dev/sdb1 /media/hdb1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_AU.UTF-8 0 021:23
mefisto__<device> <mountpoint> <filesystemtype> <options>21:24
|MrJigsaw|How can i see if my other harddrives is mounted ?21:24
sub[t]rnldf -h, or mount21:24
stratman4300mrjigsaw: run this command to open that file in a text editer kdesu kate /etc/fstab21:24
sub[t]rnlkdesu? is he on feisty or earlier?21:24
|MrJigsaw|Gnutsy i believe its called21:25
|MrJigsaw|or just 7.10 ?21:25
stratman4300ehh...  don't know....  it's what i've always used  :|  is there a newer way???21:25
sub[t]rnlgnutsy, lol, good name21:25
ubotuIn KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)21:25
nosrednaekimsub[t]rnl➜ kdesu is now symlinked to kdesudo21:25
mefisto__sub[t]rnl: kdesu links to kdesudo, so kdesu will work anyway21:25
sub[t]rnlnosrednaekim➜ ahh, nice21:26
|MrJigsaw|dosent work for me21:26
|MrJigsaw|kdesu: cannot connect to X server :021:27
stratman4300try kdesudo kate /etc/fstab then21:27
|MrJigsaw|Xlib: No protocol specified - kdesu kate /etc/fstab21:27
nosrednaekimworks for me.....21:27
sub[t]rnlwhat was his mount point?21:27
sub[t]rnland device name?21:27
|MrJigsaw|Im getting the same error21:27
stratman4300sub[t]rnl: his device was /dev/sd121:28
stratman4300sub[t]rnl: his device was /dev/sdb121:28
|MrJigsaw|Mount Point i think was /mrjigsaw/home/newHD/ :|21:28
mefisto__|MrJigsaw|: I recommend making the mountpoint in /media21:28
stratman4300mrjigsaw: is that where you want to permanetly mount it??21:28
stratman4300mefisto__: agreed21:29
sub[t]rnl|MrJigsaw|➜ do this echo "/dev/sdb1 /mrjigsaw/home/newHD ntfs-3g defaults 0 0" |sudo tee -a /etc/fstab21:29
nosrednaekimsub[t]rnl➜ sudo21:29
|MrJigsaw|stratman4300:  nope21:29
cipriansub[t]rnl, sorry to bothering again, but now i got this: " const class QString' has no member named 'latin' "21:29
nosrednaekimsub[t]rnl➜ oh... wait...21:29
|MrJigsaw|i would like to lay it in media with my other drives..21:29
sub[t]rnlnosrednaekim➜ hehe :>21:29
sub[t]rnlciprian➜ not sure then, sorry21:30
ciprianshould i install some missing library or what?21:30
ciprianok, thanks anyway21:30
sub[t]rnlciprian➜ libraries are good, thats what ./configure checks21:30
nosrednaekimsub[t]rnl➜ meh >:(21:30
|MrJigsaw|What do i need to write in konsole to open a folder ?21:30
stratman4300mrjigsaw: cd /foldername21:31
|MrJigsaw|i wont it to open at my desktop stratman4300 :D21:31
gundam_rx78nt1how can I get lm-sensors display the temperature on my  superkaramba monitor in degrees Fahrenhiet?21:31
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stratman4300mrjigsaw: you can also navigate to /home/mrjigsaw/newHD by pressing alt+f2 the typing /home/mrjigsaw/newHD21:32
mefisto__|MrJigsaw|: cd ~/Desktop21:32
|MrJigsaw|stratman4300: can i PM ? im getting really confused by all the difrent answers :]21:32
mefisto__|MrJigsaw|: sorry21:33
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stratman4300mrjigsaw: i would but i've got to go soon.....  wish i could stay and help....  the others will get you up and running though ;)21:33
|MrJigsaw|all right..21:34
stratman4300sorry :|21:34
cicero_123hello room. how do i remount a drive that has an incorrect mount point?21:34
Agent_bob"bird atmospheric conditions" blew up my modem.21:34
|MrJigsaw|sudo unmount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /home/media/Storage_Area_II21:34
Agent_bobaka fowl weather21:34
|MrJigsaw|uhm damn21:34
nosrednaekimcicero_123➜ unmount it first21:34
|MrJigsaw|how unmount the newHD i just made ?21:35
gundam_rx78nt1how can I get lm-sensors display the temperature on my  superkaramba monitor in degrees Fahrenhiet?21:35
stratman4300mrjigsaw: sudo umount /dev/sdb121:35
|MrJigsaw|how do i*21:35
Agent_bob|MrJigsaw| umount21:35
mefisto__|MrJigsaw|: sudo umount /mountpoint21:35
Agent_bobmountpoint or device21:35
|MrJigsaw|And then:  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /media/Storage_Area_II or? :D21:36
cicero_123for some reason it has a mountpoint that is <mountpoint> instead of being in the /etc/media file like the others21:36
mefisto__|MrJigsaw|: did you do that change to /etc/fstab ?21:36
Agent_bob!ntfs-3g | |MrJigsaw|21:36
ubotu|MrJigsaw|: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions21:36
|MrJigsaw|nope mefisto__, i cant really make it work21:36
nosrednaekimcicero_123➜ noting is ever mounted to /etc.... at least it shouldn't be21:37
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|MrJigsaw|well mefisto__ i would like to mount my devices to media first21:37
cicero_123|MrJigsaw|: yeah. i was very tired and it was my first time at linux. i think i really goofed.21:37
mefisto__ echo "/dev/sdb1 /mrjigsaw/home/newHD ntfs-3g defaults 0 0" |sudo tee -a /etc/fstab21:38
mefisto__|MrJigsaw|: that will add the line to fstab21:38
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cicero_123linux acts like my cd rom is a hd and the hd that i store all my files shows as an icon but cant be found21:38
mefisto__|MrJigsaw|: then you can just "sudo mount -a" and it should mount whatever you have in fstab21:38
cicero_123|MrJigsaw|:  i will try the sudo mout -a.21:39
|MrJigsaw|i just did that21:39
|MrJigsaw|But how can i check if i mounted the drives as i should ?21:40
cicero_123is confused.21:40
Agent_bobmount <<< will list what's mounted where and how21:41
* cicero_123 goes to the corner... and has some coffee...21:41
nosrednaekimcicero_123➜ |MrJigsaw| is not trying to help you.... he has his own problem which is similar to yours21:41
nosrednaekimcicero_123➜ but we are trying to help both of you, which can get confusing :)21:41
mefisto__and probably too many voices trying to help is confusing to :P21:42
cicero_123sorry. sometimes when i wake up, i dont quite overcome the pain, and dont focus very well. (chronic pain from a car wreck--but i am moblie and my brain works a lot of the time... :)21:42
sub[t]rnlthough quite entertaining...21:42
* sub[t]rnl sips coffee21:42
mefisto__his pain entertains you?21:43
Agent_bobpain != frustration21:43
|MrJigsaw|i just hope theyre all mounted now ;|21:43
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sub[t]rnlAgent_bob➜ remember when I was trying to capture $5 through $9 and we put together the $@ | cut?21:43
sub[t]rnlAgent_bob➜ i forgot all about shift.. shift 421:44
Agent_bobsub[t]rnl don't tell me i did that.     shift 4 ;blah="$*"21:44
MrJigsawuhm one more question. i need to put acpi=off and noapic in grub boot manager thingy, how do i do it ?21:45
Agent_bobbut like i said yestergo the cleanest is still probably an array   seeing that you lose nothing that way21:45
sub[t]rnlin your /boot/grub/menu.lst21:45
MrJigsawmy kubuntu wont boot up if i dont have those in it....21:45
sub[t]rnlAgent_bob➜ aye21:45
MrJigsawsub[t]rnl:  i get that.. but where in it.. :/ ?21:45
sub[t]rnlin your kernel boot line21:46
sub[t]rnldo grep ^kernel /boot/grub/menu.lst21:46
sub[t]rnlso you know what the line looks like21:46
Agent_bobsub[t]rnl and i did think of shift yestergo,  but "bird atmoshperic conditions" shot my  modem.   down until just a little while ago21:46
sub[t]rnlAgent_bob➜ ugh21:47
MrJigsawsub[t]rnl: should i do the same as when i boot normally. seperate them with '--' ?21:47
mefisto__if you also put it in the line: # defoptions=    it will keep that setting when upgrades happen too21:47
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)21:48
* Arwen is listening to Captain Planet Opening Theme by Phil Collins on Captain Planet [Amarok]21:48
* nosrednaekim is listening to You're Pitiful by "Weird Al" Yankovic on Poodle Hat [Amarok]21:48
* sub[t]rnl face palms21:48
MrJigsawit says i aint got the right to edit in menu.lst21:48
Agent_bobroot does21:49
nosrednaekimMrJigsaw➜ kdesudo21:49
mefisto__MrJigsaw: sudo at the start of the command21:49
MrJigsawHow do i make kate root? :D21:49
MrJigsawIm logged in as root mefisto__21:49
Agent_bobkdesu kate21:49
nosrednaekimanswered before you asked... beat that everyone ^_^21:49
Agent_bobyou are logged in as root ?      don't21:49
sub[t]rnl+1 nosrednaekim21:50
MrJigsawYes i am..21:50
MrJigsaw+ i cant use kdesu kate21:50
MrJigsawit gives me errors21:50
mefisto__are you sure you're logged in as root?21:50
gundam_rx78nt1I got an nvidia 7600 graphics card installed.  I installed the restricted drivers but my card on the glx screen savers starts to become choppy.21:50
MrJigsawin konsole i am21:50
gundam_rx78nt1I ran glxgears and here is my output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55795/21:50
nosrednaekimMrJigsaw➜ well, log out, you can't run graphical apps from a root konsole21:50
MrJigsawsu root21:50
gundam_rx78nt1can someone help?>21:50
MrJigsawhow do i log out ?21:50
Agent_bobthat's not logged in.21:50
BluesKajthis may be off topic but it soon won't be . I hope Linux is ready for these new drives http://www.techspot.com/news/28984-Panasonic-announces-ship-date-for-32GB-SDHC-card.html21:51
Agent_bobthat's a root shell in a terminal.     != login21:51
nosrednaekimgundam_rx78nt1➜ glxinfo would be a bit more useful...21:51
nosrednaekimBluesKaj➜ why wouldn't it be?21:51
MrJigsawOkay Agent_bob...21:51
MrJigsawit still wont let me edit in menu.lst ;S21:52
Agent_bobMrJigsaw also you should never use plain su    use   su -     because it makes it the equievelant of a root login shell   i.e. full root environment.       sudo -i   is the same as  sudo su -21:53
flipstarhi all, how can i clone my root partition? is 'cp -r -p' enough ?21:53
gundam_rx78nt1nosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55796/ here is the output of glxinfo.21:53
Agent_bobflipstar not unless they have fixed some bugs in cp   cp -a --one-file-system21:54
nosrednaekimgundam_rx78nt1➜ thaks21:55
Agent_bobflipstar i like tar better though.21:55
flipstarAgent_bob: so 'cp -a --one-file-system' is the right option for that ?21:56
Agent_bobflipstar yeah.  also if it's a bite for bite clone.   dd if=/dev/hda1 of=location_of_clone21:56
flipstartheres no need for tar since it goes directly from on disc to antother :)21:56
gundam_rx78nt1is that big update push that was released last night break anything?  I want to know before I accept the changes...21:57
flipstargreat thx Agent_bob21:57
Agent_bobflipstar np21:57
nosrednaekimgundam_rx78nt1➜ that looks good...21:57
* cicero_123 meanders back into the fray after some coffee... i guess using dolphin in root to tinker around isnt a good thing... my cd rom wont respond and hdc1 has a mountpoint called <mountpoint> that doesnt exist on the disk and the fs type is set to auto, but cant mount. how do i undo the damage?21:58
Agent_bobflipstar note that hda1 is example only.   can be whole disk if they are the same size  or partition or what ever.21:58
sourcemakerI have removed vmware-player and now installed vmware-server... Module vmnet is not loaded.  Please verify that it is loaded beforerunning this script.21:58
sourcemakerwhat's wrong?21:59
gundam_rx78nt1noserednaekim: so what should I do?  Remove the drivers and install them manually after I remove all config files?21:59
nosrednaekimcicero_123➜ change that <mountoint> to /media/hdc121:59
flipstaryes i know that, thanks anyway Agent_bob .. btw it also copies permissions and sow ?21:59
nosrednaekimgundam_rx78nt1➜ no... that won;t do any good, thats as good of results you are going to be getting.21:59
cicero_123nosrednaekim: k. what is the command?21:59
gundam_rx78nt1sourcemaker: the problem is with one of the files for the vmnet module.21:59
gundam_rx78nt1I found the fix for it on the vmware website.22:00
Agent_bobflipstar dd is bite for bite.    cp -a is copy and preserve links and owner/perms22:00
Agent_bobflipstar tar will preserve links and perms too22:00
mefisto__cicero_123: kdesu kate /etc/fstab22:00
nosrednaekimcicero_123➜ uhh where is it saying the <mountpoint> stuff?22:00
cicero_123in kinfo22:01
nosrednaekimmefisto__➜ please... i'm handling him....no need giving confusing commands...22:01
gundam_rx78nt1nosrednaekim: I had it working smoothly up until I updated some stuff.22:01
||arifaXanytime I use aticonfig --swap-monitor on my big desktop I get an exception error. is this a known problem?22:01
nosrednaekimcicero_123➜ go to systemsettings->advanced->disks and partioning and change it there22:01
Agent_bobwhat dd does that cp and tar dont do is copy free space and system inodes22:01
Agent_bob@ flipstar22:01
flipstarhm no need for that..i'll use cp -a then :)22:02
Agent_bobsystem inodes = superblocks file allocation tables mbr's etc...22:02
Agent_bobflipstar yeah cp -a --one-file-system /source /destination22:03
flipstarguess it will also work when i chroot and update grub ..22:03
gundam_rx78nt1be back later on.  Got to take care of the pooch.22:03
manuel__could somebody help me please, i get my laptop frozen randomly on kde22:03
manuel__when i open my laptop, it shows a message saying "laptop lid is closed nothing to do"22:04
blekoshello,i mad a back with tar, and when i tried to restore from tar  after it made a few extractions I got a message something like "extract denied"22:04
Agent_bobflipstar if you plan on booting the new location you'll have to update the boot loader and the fstab22:04
manuel__have someone had a simular problem???22:05
flipstaryes .. know that .. thx Agent_bob22:06
nosrednaekimblekos➜ did you tar it with sudo?22:06
Agent_bobmanuel__ lid switch issues.   yes manuel__.  but i don't have a fix for you.22:06
MrJigsawHow come when i try to delete files, it just opens progress dialog and stays at 0%22:12
vscottCan anyone help me with setting up my proftpd22:12
vscottI am getting rejected by my other server22:13
nosrednaekimMrJigsaw➜ how big are the files?22:13
blekosi had done sudo su22:14
nosrednaekimblekos➜ then untar with sudo22:14
blekosbut when i copy it back to my system i had sudo su again22:14
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vscottCan someone help with proftpd22:14
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cicero_123 woohoo! it worked22:17
Arwenis it normal for KNetworkManager to say "no connection"?22:17
nosrednaekimArwen➜anything can happen to knetworkmanager;)22:18
Arwencan I turn it off? seems like a waste if I only use Ethernet22:18
cicero_123nosrednaekim: thanx. :) i appreciate the help.22:19
nosrednaekimcicero_123➜ glad that worked22:19
nosrednaekimArwen➜ sure, right click, quit, and tell it not to start again22:19
cicero_123nosrednaekim: now all i have to do is figure out how to restore the cd-rom.22:19
Arwenand that speaker icon for kmix is really ugly :-)22:20
RadlyBarack Obama voted FOR the Patriot Act, more funding for America's aggression in Iraq, and every increased spending measure he could get his lying articulate hands on. Hmmm lets add some more contradictions and exposed lies...... In the NH debate, he called for going into Pakistan. In many speaches he has advocated going into Africa for peacekeeping. (Sounds like that would be worse than Vietnam!)22:22
RadlyOh yeah!!! THAT WILL REALLY HEAL AMERICA. Keep on believing it Obamatards. You all will be sorry, as Barack Hussein Obama is no better than Clinton or Edwards.22:22
holasameones know how to convert dvd5 in divx22:24
ubotuHelp! Riddell, Tm_T, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild or jussi01!22:24
nosrednaekim!transcode | hola22:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about transcode - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:24
ArwenObama? bah, it's all about Ron Paul. That aside, transcode isn't the greatest tool.22:24
holanosrednaekim: ?22:25
nosrednaekimyeah... thought there was a little bot-bite about that22:25
Arwenhola, to DivX? You want DivX Linux Edition (somewhere on divx.com)22:25
Arwenyou probably need to decode to uncompressed video using ffmpeg or something first22:25
vscottAnyone know how to fix socket operation fatel errors22:25
holaArwen: yes, i would like to onvert dvd into divx22:26
Arwenyou need http://labs.divx.com/DivXLinuxCodec22:26
Arweninstructions should be on the page22:26
nosrednaekimhey Ryu01022:28
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!22:28
Ryu010hows it going in here?22:29
mefisto__Arwen: what do you not like about transcode? what do you use instead? mencoder?22:29
nosrednaekimRyu010➜ good :)22:30
Arwenmefisto__, I use Windows for encoding because AviSynth only runs there. I dislike transcode because it's really just ffmpeg repackaged.22:30
mefisto__Arwen: so what's wrong with ffmpeg?22:31
holaArwen: thk. is it only a codec or it it a program22:31
Arwenit's not AviSytnh22:31
Arwenhola, it's both22:31
Arwenmefisto__, very limited filtering22:31
mefisto__Arwen: you mean as in using filters when encoding?22:32
Arwenyes, like deinterlacing, overlays, splices, resizing, etc22:32
Arwenand it doesn't have AviSynth's scripting syntax22:32
mefisto__Arwen: sounds like you're quite used to avisynth22:33
Arwenit's the only video editor I'd ever consider using22:33
* mefisto__ is transcode-ing right now22:35
ArwenI also don't like transcode because it depends on GTK 1.2 for some reason22:36
blekosthe message i get from tar is tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors22:36
twosouls82how do I preserve file permissions for files from /etc/skel?22:38
arcticpenguin380did i make a mistake switching to JFS22:39
crimsuntwosouls82: how are you transferring them?  Permissions should be preserved.  Do you have a non-standard umask?22:39
holaArwen: sorry...have you tried it?22:39
Arwenhola, nope. I just know that's the only DivX encoder on Linux.22:40
holaArwen: i sked you that becouse i jasted installed it but i dont knoew how to lunch the programm22:40
twosouls82crimsun: I made the files in there more secure and added some more defaults for our foundation, the /etc/skel has been copied by using systemsettings22:40
Arwentry typing "divx --help" into a console22:41
twosouls82and I haven't changed the umask22:41
holaArwen: i tried but it does not exist22:41
Arwenone sec22:41
crimsuntwosouls82: I don't know systemsettings well (or very much at all); check its implementation.22:42
twosouls82even when I use "sudo useradd --create-home <username>" the file ownerships of the files from /etc/skel are not preserved22:45
Arwenhola, oh, I see. You have to write the encoder yourself >_>22:46
twosouls82seems logical to me btw22:46
Arwenlame, ah well...22:46
twosouls82but there must be a way to preserve it for specific files22:46
nosrednaekimtwosouls82➜ if they were preserved, then you'd never own anything in your home DIR22:47
nosrednaekimsince root is who copies them.22:47
Arwenhola, probably this is beyond your skill (it's beyond mine at least). Maybe I could interest you in XviD instead?22:47
twosouls82nosrednaekim: that's why I said "seems logical to me btw" =)22:48
holaArwen: which are the differences22:48
twosouls82nosrednaekim: do you know how to preserve it for specific files?22:48
nosrednaekimtwosouls82➜ nooo..... thats just slightly to hard-core for me :)22:49
Arwenhola, not much. XviD is a bit higher quality.22:49
twosouls82for me to, for now :)22:49
copacetictwosouls82, write a script...?22:51
yerethwow KDE4 sucks22:53
giovanni_homewhat's kde4 like?22:53
yerethit's like.. nothing else really.. the desktop is bloated22:54
yerethless control than gnome even22:54
holaArwen: ok....tell me so22:54
yerethkwin is much worse than compiz22:54
ChaosMachineis there any 4.0.1 live cds yet?22:54
giovanni_homewhat are desktop effects like?22:54
yereththe menu is just plain annoying22:54
twosouls82copacetic: I was thinking of that, and I am investigating where to refer to (execute) it.. in such a way that useradd and other applications that add users user it too22:54
yerethgiovanni_home: desktop effects are so-so.. compiz for kde3 is much better22:55
yerethChaosMachine: dunno.. but you can install kde4 alongside22:55
giovanni_homemah... it's a work in progress... I'll wait the next kubuntu version22:56
giovanni_homeI'm comfortable with kde 3 right now22:56
yerethgiovanni_home: it's work in progress yes, but since when is a full release rather some kind of a release candidate alpha alpha?22:56
cicero_123rehello room. :) where is the dvd-cd burner supposed to be mounted?22:56
yerethit's like: let's call it the final release.. maybe people will try it!22:57
nosrednaekimyereth➜ yes,you can change the menu22:57
cellofellowhi. I hope I'm not unwelcome as an Ubuntu user with a non-GNOME-specific problem.22:57
nosrednaekimcicero_123➜ well, burners are not mounted22:57
giovanni_homeyereth: they chose to release a final version so as to have more (beta)-tester22:57
Arwenhola, apt-get install mencoder + this guide (http://f0rked.com/projects/simplerip). It's crude, but about as good as you'll get.22:57
yerethnosrednaekim: well, I tried to change a bunch of stuff, but I got a black screen22:57
nosrednaekimcellofellow➜ depends on the problem22:57
cicero_123nosrednaekim: how do i active it?22:58
yerethgiovanni_home: I know, but really, on the website they pretended it was amazing.. not even close22:58
giovanni_homebut you are not forced to use it :) yereth22:58
yerethI know, I'm just worried for the future of KDE22:58
oloughlin75I am trying to get myswl working and am getting this error: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)22:58
yerethgetting another gnome, but worse22:58
cellofellownosrednaekim: I have some MP3 files that I've ripped and now I cannot tag them so my MP3 player can read the tags. It's rather picky about them for some reason. I've tried EasyTag and id3tag. None work. What's a better way?22:58
cellofellowIt'd be nice if the tagger supports images.22:59
giovanni_homedon't worry... it's gonna be better22:59
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nosrednaekimcellofellow➜ no idea...22:59
yerethhope so22:59
yerethfirst, let the digikam fix the rotation of images in the viewer :P22:59
nosrednaekimyereth➜ underneath, it is an amazing improvement22:59
yerethdigikam team*22:59
cellofellowThis players' one of those designed for Windows Media Player, so I blame M$ for my problems.22:59
giovanni_homehowever we should admin than windows vista is ahead as far as desktop effects are concerned23:00
yerethnosrednaekim: I'm sure.. what was the gui thing called again? something like QT23:00
giovanni_homewe should admit, sorry23:00
yerethgiovanni_home: ow come on, Vista is bloated and ugly23:00
giovanni_homeahah :)23:00
* cellofellow agrees23:00
yerethOSX rules all23:00
nosrednaekimyereth➜ yeah, they switched to qt4 form qt323:00
holaArwen: thaks ciao23:00
yereththat was it23:00
* Arwen thinks desktop effects are silly23:00
* cicero_123 pipes up--> bloated, ugly, and slowwwwww23:00
yerethArwen: Apple invented *useful* desktop effects23:01
giovanni_homebut they have desktop effects since a year ago... we have kde4 now, in beta state23:01
yerethsuch as getting an all window overview23:01
Arwenyereth, no such thing23:01
danhi ;)23:01
giovanni_homeOSX is not the right choice... it depends to closely on microsoftoz23:01
Arwenanything they've done with shiny 3d accel could be done in 2d too23:01
danNeed help with service menu menu23:01
yerethArwen: get back to your console.. hit ctrl-alt-f1 I dare you and do everything from there :P23:01
ArwenI am... lol23:02
Arwenirssi in a screen23:02
yerethArwen: I use irssi in a screen as well23:02
yerethArwen: but also desktop apps23:02
Arwenno, but really, 3d acceleration is a bad idea at this point seeing as many chips (ATI!) are very unstable with 3d23:02
miladenEy guys, how do i run a .deb file on my desktop?23:02
Arwenmiladen, dpkg -i blah.deb23:03
nosrednaekimmiladen➜ right click and tell it to install with gdebi23:03
yerethArwen: you mean drivers suck?23:03
giovanni_homemiladen: deb file are meant to be installed, not executed23:03
Arwena lot23:03
yerethArwen: buy nvidia :)23:03
Arwenzzz, still proprietary23:03
Arwenand Intel = no games at all23:03
yerethbut much better23:03
copaceticI make 3D graphics in a shell.23:03
Arwen:-P, nothing like directfb23:03
yerethjoin #freaks23:03
giovanni_homewhat's that shit of directfb copacetic23:04
copaceticNo, I make it in Vi.23:04
copaceticI make movies in emacs though.23:05
giovanni_homeI cook with emacs23:05
yerethI cook emacs23:05
giovanni_homeand watch porno movies23:05
copaceticemacs is very versatile.23:05
yerethbut no one wants to eat it23:05
miladenis there an easy command telling it to install all needed packages or do i have to list them myself?23:05
yerethemacs > notepad23:06
copaceticsudo apt-get install *23:06
yerethdon't do that, miladen23:06
danSystem menu menu, not service menu menu ;)23:06
giovanni_homeI'm not using emacs recently... I've switched to kate... and I use vi in console because is the fastest editor23:06
yerethkate is sexy23:06
miladenyereth what then?23:06
hydrogenI think installing the "emacs" package is equivilent to apt-get install *23:06
yerethmiladen: needed packages for what?23:07
copaceticHaha @ hydrogen23:07
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cicero_123how do i get my dvd/cd burner-player to play cd's?23:07
miladeni wanna install an app that requires 6 other packages ex.23:07
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yerethcicero_123: insert them first23:07
miladenhow do i get it to install all of them?23:07
miladenstuff like sun-java.jre23:07
stevarinohi, how can i install the nvidia drivers? everytime i run nvidia-xconfig i get a module nvidia not found error. i have nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel23:07
copaceticcicero_123, Put in a CD and fireup xmms.23:07
giovanni_homestevarino: try envy23:07
yerethmiladen: just do apt-get install <needed-package> and it auto installs the rest23:07
miladenno it doesnt yereth23:08
yerethmiladen: ah.. you can use automatix2 for stuff like java.. google for automatix23:08
cicero_123yes. i have. when i first installed linux (about 4 days now) i was fiddling around in root with dolphin, (which i now know is not a good thing) and now it doesnt play.23:08
hydrogenusing automatix23:08
hydrogenwill eat your babies23:08
giovanni_homemiladen: do apt-cache search <what you want> , then install the packages you want with sudo apt-get install23:08
hydrogenand kill your herds of cattle23:08
yerethhydrogen: you have a better suggeston?23:08
copaceticcicero_123, What does it do?23:08
hydrogenand probably destroy your crops23:08
hydrogeninstall java..?23:09
copaceticDoes it give an error message?23:09
giovanni_homemoreover automatix rapes your sister23:09
stevarinogiovanni_home: thanks, i thought envy was abandoned and unsafe, but it looks like i was wrong :)23:09
yerethwhat's directfb anyway?23:09
copaceticdirect frame buffer23:09
yerethanyone using it?23:10
giovanni_homeyereth: it's a useless piece of software23:10
yerethgiovanni_home: sounds good23:10
copaceticyereth, To be honest, I don't even think the developers use it.23:10
cicero_123copacetic: the kde daemon comes up and asks what i want to do. open window, copy cd, or do nothing. if i type open window i get a permission denied23:10
yerethcopacetic: so it's just for the nurd's enjoyment, lacking social life..?23:10
oloughlin75hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000?23:11
cicero_123yeah. sometimes if i try to open it in dolphin23:11
copaceticcicero_123, Learn how to use a console and sudo then. :D23:11
yerethdolphin sucks23:11
giovanni_homedolphin is good23:11
giovanni_homesimpler than konqueroz23:11
copaceticWalrus > Dolphin23:11
yerethwhale > walrus23:12
stevarinogiovanni_home: do i need to install something to use deb's? ark is throwing errors at me23:12
cicero_123i am learning. this is my 5th day with linux/kubunt23:12
giovanni_homekonqueroz is getting bad... it doesn't open correctly a lot of websites23:12
nareshovstevarino: use "ar"23:12
copaceticstevarino, sudo dpkg -i blahblah.deb23:12
giovanni_homestevarino: to use what?23:12
yerethgiovanni_home: ... dolphin is not a web browser..?23:12
cicero_123i am learning what not to do. i need to re-enale the dvd/cd burner/player23:13
yerethdoes dolphin fish?23:13
stevarinogiovanni_home: oh, i d/l the deb for envy, but ark is trying to open it by default and is failing wonderfully23:13
copaceticThey fly-fish :D23:13
Arwendolphin doesn't have a delete option in the context menu...23:13
giovanni_homeI meant that konqueror isn't even good as browser anymore23:13
Arwenstevarino, NO ENVY23:13
yerethgiovanni_home: even? it's still a great everything-browser23:13
giovanni_homestevarino: dpkg --force-all-and-more -i envy*deb23:13
stevarinoArwen: ? is there another method for nvidia?23:13
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto23:14
Arwenyes, there is23:14
Arwenit's called "installing it"23:14
nareshovfish works on dolphin23:14
yerethyou can just install nvidia-glx23:14
yerethnareshov: good23:14
copaceticnvidia is trash.23:14
cicero_123is there a cosole command that will undo the damage that i did in root with dolphin and remount--reënable or whatever it needs to do to work again?23:14
yerethugh.. dolphin doesn't show a location-toolbar by default.. smells like gnome23:15
nosrednaekimyereth➜ you can get it back :)23:15
copaceticcicero_123, Just hit the undo key on your keyboard.23:15
yerethnosrednaekim: I know, I just don't like where it's heading23:15
copaceticcicero_123, This isn't paint or word processor. If you mess something up while using root you can't just undo it. :D23:16
Arwenit has no tree view...23:16
nosrednaekimyereth➜ I understand, and I don'treally like dolphin either.23:16
copaceticYou can fix it, but you can't undo it.23:16
nosrednaekimArwen➜ yeah, it does23:16
yereth"the process for fish://... protocol died unexpectedly23:16
yerethnosrednaekim: back to konqueror :P23:16
Lionohttp://pastebin.com/m25181e43      need help is setting a net cafe23:16
stevarinoArwen: heh thanks23:16
stevarinoi remember envy leaving a bad taste in my mouth last time23:16
stevarinospeaking of...23:16
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giovanni_homeyereth: dolphin is for people who like simple things23:17
yerethgiovanni_home: install gnome then :P23:17
giovanni_homeyereth: it's ugly for me23:17
copaceticPfft, konqueror is for wimps.23:17
copaceticReal men use Lynx.23:17
Arwennosrednaekim, where?23:17
intelikeycopacetic elinks23:17
yerethcopacetic: does lynx brows my filesystem?23:18
giovanni_homereal men don't even use the computers, they surf the internet speaking on the phone like a modem23:18
oloughlin75im going to kill amarok if it currupts my wma's again23:18
* hydrogen likes dolphin23:18
yerethcopacetic: real man cut wood and hunt deers.. so stfu :)23:18
copaceticHahahahah @ giovanni_home23:18
hydrogenreal men don't hang out in irc chat23:18
hydrogenI think is what yereth is saying23:18
copaceticReal men know deers isn't a word >_>23:19
oloughlin75just because arwen23:19
hydrogenreal men have penises23:19
hydrogenand with that, I'm going to get dinner23:19
yerethI'm dutch.. shoot me :)23:19
cicero_123copacetic: i know. that is why i am thinking of reinstalling kubuntu.23:19
theunixgeekHow can I make a link to my home folder and other devices on my desktop without the little arrow thingy that represents links?23:20
copaceticYou should know, you're a unix geek. :D23:20
yerethso a question for the 'pussies': where can I find cool widgets?23:20
giovanni_homehydrogen: you eat with your penis?23:20
yerethor directly from ....23:21
NickPrestasigh. real men use a magnetized needle and a steady hand. http://xkcd.com/378/23:21
cicero_123copacetic: i really like kubuntu. it is a whole lot better than win2k and makes more sense than vista. but i was goofing around when i first installed it, and think i can fix the damage that i did in root. i just need to get the burner/player to be enabled and mounted or whatever its setting should be instead of <mountpoint> to nowhere.23:21
theunixgeekcopacetic: I've been using GNOME a lot; I've only been really messing around with KDE recently and I'm liking it. I'm looking for some gconf-edit like thing that lets me put device icons on the desktop23:21
copaceticmount /media/cdrom23:22
yerethso where do I find cool screenlets?23:22
giovanni_homew berlusconi23:22
NickPrestayereth, from the screenlets website. They have a few goodies. kde-look.org may have some too23:22
Arwenis there a way to get kde to automount removabke storage media?23:22
giovanni_homeArwen: should be so out of the box23:23
oloughlin75theunixgeek: Right click on the open desktop -> configure desktop -> behavior -> device icons tab23:23
yerethNickPresta: cheers23:23
cicero_123keen. cdrom even if it is also a dvd and cd burner?23:23
Arwengiovanni_home, pops a stupid dialog actually23:23
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giovanni_homeyes... is that that boring? :) just choose mount23:24
Arwennot acceptable when using a fullscreen konsole23:24
copaceticoloughlin75, he already left :D23:24
oloughlin75wooo amarok didnt currupt the files! it only took it 5 mins to change track info on a cd23:24
giovanni_homeoloughlin75: try s-vista23:25
copaceticI'm trying to decide what I like better, bitchx or irssi.23:25
yerethamarok rules23:25
yerethbest music player ever23:25
copaceticI think irssi is taking the lead.23:25
Vermuxand Im back23:25
nosrednaekimyereth➜ queue a "amarok 2 sucks"  report ;)23:25
giovanni_homeoloughlin75: vista23:25
yerethnosrednaekim: does it?23:26
copaceticyereth, I'm old school. I think xmms or audacious is the best.23:26
giovanni_homecopacetic: noooooo23:26
oloughlin75giovanni_home: I still use it quite a bit :)23:26
nosrednaekimyereth➜ its more like WMP23:26
mefisto__is there an amarok 2 in repos?23:26
yerethnosrednaekim: :( I'll stick with kde323:26
giovanni_homexmms is gtk0.323:26
Vermuxyeah, and Im back with a big problem, but I will share it tomorrow23:26
copaceticTrue, but amarok is...blah23:27
Vermuxso be ready23:27
copaceticIt's too big and windows-like.23:27
yerethI remember there was this advanced theme manager for kde323:27
nosrednaekimmefisto__➜ don't think so...23:27
yerethany idea what it's called?23:27
giovanni_homeoloughlin75: I sometimes use vista... and often get BSOD23:27
nosrednaekimyereth➜ theme manager?23:27
intelikeyso DTV in the US is going to force thousands of people to buy new hardware or loose all telivision service.    bend ofer america.      again!23:27
oloughlin75iv never had a BSOD in it23:27
yerethnosrednaekim: I think not23:27
oloughlin75linux is mor eproblematic -- err easier to break23:27
theunixgeekKubuntu and Ubuntu are, like, so far apart from each other....23:27
copacetictheunixgeek, Not really.23:28
nosrednaekimyereth➜ I mean... whats a theme manager? besides the one in kcontrol/systemsetting?23:28
oloughlin75just the looks23:28
giovanni_homecopacetic: try vlc23:28
cicero_123copacetic: keen. i now have a dvd icon on my desktop, but instead of playing when i double click it it opens in dolphin.23:28
copaceticvlc is ok for a movie player.23:28
copaceticNot so much for a music player.23:28
Arwenintelikey, you know what? upgrades happen, so...23:28
theunixgeekcopacetic: well, Kubuntu couldn't really be renamed to Ubuntu KDE Edition because of all the different apps in them.23:28
yerethnosrednaekim: yes something different.. I'm kind of looking for a nicer desktop for kde323:28
giovanni_homecicero_123: open vlc for that sort of things23:28
giovanni_homecicero_123: don't click on the icon23:28
copaceticcicero_123, right click -> open with23:28
intelikeyArwen do i get kissed too ?23:28
nosrednaekimyereth➜ try out the Domino theme23:28
oloughlin75woah -- it looks like i cant use xmms for more than a playlist23:29
nosrednaekimyeah XMMS is pretty functionless23:29
nosrednaekimExaile is nice (if gtk)23:29
copaceticHow is it functionless?23:29
nosrednaekimjust playlists..23:29
hsn_kubuntu has fix for local root exploit?23:29
yerethnosrednaekim: what's that?23:29
copaceticJust because it doesn't have album pictures, popups all over, and is low on resources?23:29
cicero_123my multimedia choices appear to be amarok, k3b, kaffeine, or kmix23:29
nosrednaekimyereth➜ a MAC os X looking theme23:30
jlr4uI lost my knetworkmanager and it does nothing when I try to open it. If you google "knetworkmanager does nothing" there are a lot of other folks with the same problem.23:30
MrJigsawHow can i edit in grub's menu.lst ?23:30
nosrednaekimcopacetic➜ hey.. I didn't say it wasn't nice for its purposes, but it can NOT compare to amarok in features23:30
yerethnosrednaekim: sounds nice23:30
oloughlin75copacetic: use it to manage more than 100 songs  and youll see what i was saying23:30
MrJigsawWhen i open it en kate it says access denied..23:30
giovanni_homecopacetic: don't use xmms... we must abandon old gtk1.2 apps23:30
MrJigsawopen it ind*23:30
copaceticIn "useless" features. :D23:30
oloughlin75MrJigsaw: sudo kate /file/23:30
nosrednaekimMrJigsaw➜ "kdesudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst"23:31
yerethnosrednaekim: you have a link?23:31
mefisto__MrJigsaw: no, don't use sudo23:31
nosrednaekimoloughlin75➜ please use kdesudo with graphical apps23:31
copaceticI've always had trouble getting radio stations to play in Amarok too.23:31
copaceticWhich works fine in xmms.23:31
oloughlin75:/ still learning. Is there a specific reason?23:31
MrJigsawWhat then mefisto__?23:31
intelikeyArwen "you know what? upgrades happen, so..."    only to people stupid enough to buy the new junk. which is not one bit better than the old junk. which was worth $0 then and even less now.       but i'm OT so i'll stop now.23:31
mefisto__see nosrednaekim's instructions23:31
nosrednaekim!kdesudo | oloughlin7523:32
ubotuoloughlin75: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)23:32
copaceticNonsense, I use sudo all the time.23:32
cicero_123what is the default dvd player?23:32
copaceticNot for running programs though...23:32
mefisto__copacetic: follow that link. it's not nonsense23:32
nosrednaekimcicero_123➜ kaffiene23:32
Arwencicero_123, kaffeiene23:32
copaceticxine or vlc - best for playing videos23:33
nosrednaekimyereth➜ http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=4280423:33
giovanni_homeubuntu: if you're typing in a console you can use sudo with graphical apps...23:33
cicero_123thanx. :)  everything works now, and i can be free of ms23:33
giovanni_homeubotu:  if you're typing in a console you can use sudo with graphical apps...23:33
nosrednaekimyereth➜ you can probably find a deb somewhere as well23:33
mefisto__giovanni_home: ubuto is a bot23:33
yerethstop typing, I'm trying to select a line23:33
copacetictype type23:34
giovanni_homeit's just said me it's not intelligent23:34
cicero_1235th day of linux/kubuntu. thanx all. :) have a good day.23:34
nosrednaekimcicero_123➜ cheers!23:34
nosrednaekimyereth➜ lol23:34
* Arwen has no desire to be "freed of ms"23:34
intelikeygiovanni_home you should not use sudo with graphical apps.23:34
giovanni_homewhy intelikey23:34
yerethnosrednaekim: configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check23:34
copaceticI never use to like MS, but now I despise them after what they did with OLPC.23:35
nosrednaekimyereth➜ like I said.... find a deb ;)23:35
intelikeygiovanni_home cause it's not made for them.   if you want to be in here asking us how to streighten out what it messes up,  then go ahead.23:35
yerethnosrednaekim: ugh.. i38623:35
giovanni_homeintelikey: kdesu is slower23:35
oloughlin75gmail looks so fugly in konquerer23:36
copaceticWhy would you use sudo to run a graphical app in the first place?23:36
nosrednaekimoloughlin75➜ well, congrats on getting it to work in the first place23:36
giovanni_homeintelikey: I've been using sudo in console for years without problems23:36
intelikeygiovanni_home so use what ever you want.    but don't come crying to me that you can no longer login as user or that blah wont run anymore.23:36
giovanni_homeintelikey: don't worry about that23:36
intelikeyconsole != X-apps23:37
giovanni_homeintelikey: I mean graphical apps in console23:37
mefisto__giovanni_home:  http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo explains23:37
yerethnosrednaekim: oops.. forgot build-essentials23:37
oloughlin75that site says you cant sudo kate, but you can23:37
yerethnosrednaekim: didn't compile stuff for a while23:38
oloughlin75I got a question for the next time I mess up xorg... how do you delete it/rename it? It always warns me about token xorg and conf or something and rename doesnt work23:38
Angeluswhy is konqeuror displaying some of the fonts incomplete?23:38
copaceticBecause konqueror is terrible.23:39
Dragnslcroloughlin75- sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak23:39
giovanni_homesudo kate works for me23:39
Angelusother then that copacetic?23:39
coreymon77giovanni_home: wowowowow23:39
Angelusgiovanni_home:  kdesu no sudo23:39
coreymon77giovanni_home: never use sudo for graphical applications23:39
oloughlin75rename doesnt work?23:39
DragnslcrOr cp instead of mv if you want to make a copy23:39
intelikey!worksforme | giovanni_home23:39
ubotugiovanni_home: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/23:39
Dragnslcroloughlin75- the shell command to rename a file is mv23:39
copaceticdo not mv xorg.conf23:39
coreymon77giovanni_home: always use kdesu23:40
copaceticThat's stupid.23:40
giovanni_homehey guys... you're bothering me... I understood, but I'll keep using sudo... kdesu is slower23:40
coreymon77giovanni_home: alright then, dont say we didnt warn you23:40
Dragnslcrcopacetic- well, the assumption is that you would then replace it with another xorg.conf file23:40
oloughlin75copacetic: for the next time i mess up xorg and cant figure out how to delete the bad one and rename the backup23:40
Angeluscome on guys23:40
Angelusno need to kill him for that stupid line :23:40
intelikeymoreover don't tell others to use it.23:40
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yereth"checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"23:41
yerethany thoughts?23:41
nosrednaekimyereth➜ whats this on?23:41
yerethalready installed xlibs-static-dev23:41
stevarinohm, /etc/issue reads "ubuntu 6.06.2 lts" is that normal?23:41
yerethnosrednaekim: ./configure at the package23:41
nosrednaekimyereth➜ to a apt-get build-dep on the source dir23:41
intelikeyyereth xorg-dev something maybe23:41
oloughlin75Whats a good java IDE for linux?23:42
nosrednaekimoloughlin75➜ eclipse23:42
yerethnosrednaekim: I can build-dep a source dir?23:42
copaceticlol @ him using ubuntu 6.0623:42
oloughlin75i dont particularly like eclipse23:42
nosrednaekimyereth➜ yes, I forget EXACTLY how,but man apt-get should tell you23:42
copaceticstevarino, Do you still use rotary phones too?23:43
intelikeycopacetic 6.6 is LTS still supported offically23:43
nosrednaekimcopacetic➜ what? its still officially supported23:43
nosrednaekimso, its perfectly ok for him to still be using it, and we will support it for another year at least23:43
intelikeycopacetic so you show your iq by laughing at someone for using it.   that what.23:43
stevarino:( i just d/l what the server gave me23:43
copaceticHow does that show my IQ?23:44
dsmith_besides dell laptops, anyone else know of any cheap models that work flawlessly out of box from say Lenovo, HP, Acer for an example?23:44
nosrednaekimdsmith_➜ acer 5050 works great here.23:44
yerethnosrednaekim: build-dep needs a package23:44
oloughlin75nothing works out of the box dsmith_23:44
nosrednaekimyereth➜ oh.... it needs a source deb?23:44
copaceticI'm laughing because it's old. Doesn't matter if it's "officially supported." It's still old.23:44
denisme f23:45
yerethnosrednaekim: it says so23:45
sub[t]rnl!ot | copacetic23:45
ubotucopacetic: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!23:45
nosrednaekimyereth➜ err sorry then ;)23:45
yerethsub[t]rnl: official.. lol23:45
yerethnosrednaekim: np23:45
Arwenso hard to trim down installs with all this stuff being depended on by *-desktop...23:45
oloughlin75is there a list of bot commands somewhere?23:45
denisme p.e., I have a problem on this Lenovo 3000 N20023:45
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots23:45
dsmith_nosrednaekim: I am looking for some low end laptops to install linux on and sell23:46
stevarinohm, this would explain a lot of my troubles23:46
nosrednaekimdsmith_➜ well, used thinkpads are nice.23:46
copaceticYou can install linux on a Compaq Armada.23:46
copaceticYou could probably find one for $10.23:46
dsmith_lol I am talking new23:46
nosrednaekimstevarino➜ what would?23:46
intelikeydsmith_ most older hardware is supported.23:46
dsmith_I have installed on a few laptops already23:46
denisI have Kubuntu 7.06 and want to upgrade to 7.10 but it always makes me problems23:47
dsmith_intelikey: I know.. :)23:47
oloughlin75dsmith_: I have a Gateway MT3422 and the only thing that didnt work OTB was the sound23:47
dsmith_denis: BACKUP, then upgrade23:47
nosrednaekimdsmith_➜ well, then go intel, best advice I can give for low-end stuff.23:47
denisrookie, me23:47
nosrednaekimit'll get you away from broadcom, etc23:47
dsmith_oloughlin75: thats the problem I have with a panasonic CF-5123:47
oloughlin75dsmith_: Never get an ATI card in it!23:47
denisthere is nothing to backup23:47
dsmith_ati, never23:47
dsmith_broadcom, never23:48
denisit's all-new23:48
denisnvidia isn't better23:48
dsmith_is so :P23:48
copaceticdenis, If you're having upgrade problems, just download the newest iso, burn and re-install.23:48
oloughlin75dsmith_: Did you try the lastest alsa drivers? My sound needs them, and kubuntu hasnt upgraded them yet23:48
denisno, I don think so, but I have another problem, as I already mentionend23:48
dsmith_oloughlin75: I dont remember23:48
denisI did download the newest iso23:49
yerethquite a bitch to compile a package23:49
copaceticThen why are you trying to upgrade?23:49
denisit said it would be DVD of 7.1023:49
yerethso many dependencies23:49
dsmith_copacetic: you beat me to saying that :)23:49
denishow do I see the version of my system?23:49
oloughlin75yereth: Just takes a few minutes :/23:49
yerethdenis: uname -a23:49
oloughlin75and i had to install some random package else i got an error23:49
intelikeybecause the newest iso is old, that is to say there are updates for most of the packages on it.23:49
yereththat's the kernel :)23:50
intelikeydenis lsb_release -a23:50
denisLinux Laptop 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linu                                                                                                   x23:50
yeretholoughlin75: it does23:50
oloughlin75i needed gettext and something else23:50
copaceticintelikey, I think he was upgrading his entire distro version.23:50
intelikeyor is it dash in place of underscore23:50
copaceticNot app/security updates.23:50
biovorethose are called dependencies23:50
denisisn't that the newest?23:51
intelikeyyeah that's latest.  and there are losts of updates for it.23:51
Arwenwe're pretty close to 8.04 iirc23:51
denisyes, aroun 15423:51
dsmith_lots of lost updated, :P23:51
denisso why does it say there is an upgrade?23:51
denisbtw: I have problems with apt-get update after updating23:52
oloughlin75it was released a few months ago23:52
intelikeybug in the upgrade notifier ?23:52
dsmith_biovore: what happened to MD LUG?23:52
biovoreit always says there is a newer version.. but its always wrong :-P23:52
denisit says that it can find the lock file23:52
oloughlin75!adeptfix | denis23:52
ubotudenis: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »23:52
biovoredsmith_: I do the Capitol College Lug23:52
yereth"in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail."23:52
yerethnow what?23:52
stevarinois there a command to upgrade everything to 7.10, cuz this really sucks23:52
oloughlin75i had the same problem after updates23:53
stevarinoi thought apt-get dist-upgrade would do the trick...23:53
intelikeybiovore that's yet another argument against running the latest rather than the LTS    but  i need not go there.23:53
biovoredsmith_: Capitol College in Laurel Maryland 6:00 -> 9 ish  (nea  Powder mill road and parkway23:53
copaceticstevarino, sudo gksu "update-manager -c"23:53
dsmith_biovore: too far23:53
copaceticHrm, that must be an ubuntu only app23:53
biovorekdesu -> gksu23:54
copaceticDisregard my comment.23:54
deniswhen I enter sudo dpkg --configure -a, it asks me to either keep the old files or take the new ones. Whast do I haave to do?23:54
intelikeygksudo and kdesudo are also avalable23:54
stevarinocopacetic: thanks.. i'm burning the dvd of 7.1 now (yes, i had a 6.06 cd iso and a 7.10 dvd iso, i have no clue why either)23:55
intelikeydenis if everything is working     keep the old ones23:55
yerethhhrmm.. too much whiskeyt23:55
copaceticI always keep the old ones. Some apps may depends on them.23:56
yerethhence the typo23:56
denisthank you, it's working23:56
intelikeyheh copacetic you very funny man.23:56
yerethnosrednaekim: finally, ./configure ran without errors23:57
copaceticHrm, thanks?23:57
copaceticyereth, Now the hard part :D23:57
yerethinstalled 100MB of dev packs23:57
copaceticGetting make to finish without errors.23:57
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!23:57
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de23:58
denisah cool23:58
yerethnosrednaekim: so I've run make install... should the theme be in the list now?23:58
nosrednaekimyeah... should be23:59
copaceticYou did sudo make install, correct?23:59
yerethcopacetic: did so23:59
Arwenoh yeah, anyone else here used VisualboyAdvance? It's broken here.23:59

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