[00:00] <Agent_bob> sub[t]rnl but yes. one can use [ ! -z blah ]  or  [ blah ]  entercanagably      or  [ -z blah ]  and  [ ! blah ]   enterchangably
[00:00] <frank23> mefisto__: on what card did you compare that?
[00:00] <frank23> mefisto__: I've got 2 hauppauge pvr-150s
[00:01] <Arwen> actually, digital TV in America is pretty bad too. Dunno about Europe and Asia, probably the same there too.
[00:01] <Agent_bob> sub[t]rnl cleanest ???   not sure.   i know several ways to get there.  but the cleanest would be questionable.  probably an array
[00:01] <Arwen> (dtv encourages people to encode at really low bitrates)
[00:01] <Crashed> hey
[00:01] <sub[t]rnl> Agent_bob➜ yeah, trying to avoid bash arrays until I really need it.
[00:01] <Crashed> I just speed up the fps 2x
[00:02] <Crashed> Closed captions made it *much* slower.
[00:02] <Crashed> Turned it off, and it's nice and smooth now.
[00:02] <mefisto__> frank23: give it a try. probably the vcr tuner will be better, but I don't know about your card specifically
[00:02] <frank23> mefisto__: what card do you have?
[00:02] <gary_> I can't believe this.. I enter the wrong password in Kmail, but it still says Transmission complete, No new messages.
[00:02] <gary_> Wtf?
[00:03] <Agent_bob> Q=("$@") ;your_var=${Q[5-9]}   or however the syntax is.
[00:03] <jussi01> !wtf | gary_
[00:03] <ubotu> gary_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[00:03] <mefisto__> product: Bt878 Video Capture. vendor: Brooktree Corporation. the box it came in said "pixelview playTV"
[00:04] <gary_> What the fork?
[00:04] <Agent_bob> is you want to avoid an array and don't mind external commands    your_var="`echo "$@" | cut -d' ' -f5-9`"
[00:04] <mefisto__> where's the food?
[00:04] <Agent_bob> but that's not "clean"  by any means.
[00:05] <sub[t]rnl> Agent_bob➜ ok, it still gets it there.  I know some worry about extra |'s spawning commands, but its ok for now
[00:05] <Agent_bob> k
[00:05] <sub[t]rnl> tx
[00:05] <Agent_bob> hey i have to run.    be back later tho.
[00:05] <sub[t]rnl> aighty
[00:06] <frank23> mefisto__: ok
[00:07] <MrJigsaw> Hello, how do i install a nvidia driver after downloading ? :)
[00:08] <sub[t]rnl> !nv | MrJigsaw try to use the repositories
[00:08] <ubotu> MrJigsaw try to use the repositories: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[00:15] <MrJigsaw> uhm..
[00:15] <MrJigsaw> Why wont anything work in linux ;@
[00:15] <cpk1> looks like your internet is working?
[00:15] <mefisto__> is there anything linux that can create dvd menus (apart from qdvdauthor and mandvd)?
[00:15] <MrJigsaw> cpk1: thats allso the only thing.. i cant get nvidia or sound working ;@
[00:15] <purpleposeidon> What's the easiest ftp server that I can use, like sudo apt-get install $ftpserverthing && ftp `whoami`@localhost?
[00:17] <cpk1> MrJigsaw: what nvidia card you have?
[00:17] <MrJigsaw> 7950GT
[00:18] <adz21c> mefisto__: well there is dvdauthor (which is what qdvdauthor is the gui for) you could try using it directly
[00:18] <purpleposeidon> excepting that that's not how you run ftp.. :/
[00:18] <diamond5pam>     Đe je zrno klicu zametnulo,
[00:18] <diamond5pam>     onde neka i plodom počine.
[00:18] <diamond5pam>     je li instinkt al' duhovni vođa,
[00:18] <diamond5pam>     Ovde ljudsko zapire poznanje!
[00:18] <diamond5pam>     Vuk na ovcu svoje pravo ima
[00:18] <diamond5pam>     ka tirjanin na slaba čovjeka.
[00:18] <diamond5pam>     Al' tirjanstvu stati nogom za vrat,
[00:18] <MrJigsaw> please stop spamming ?
[00:18] <diamond5pam>     dovesti ga k poznaniju prava,
[00:19] <fitoria> Hi
[00:19] <hydrogen> well
[00:19] <hydrogen> at least he let us know that he was 5pamming
[00:19] <fitoria> I have a GRUB error 24 after a bad shutdown
[00:20] <fitoria> how can I fix it
[00:20] <fitoria> ?
[00:20] <MrJigsaw> so uhm, cpk1, can you help? :)
[00:20] <fitoria> I have tried reinstaling grub
[00:21] <frank23> Is there an easy way to get a wifi connection on WPA encrypted network when I boot before logging in?
[00:21] <frank23> Right I use knetwork manager and it doesn't connect until I login
[00:21] <Crashed> Hey guys, would it be able to install windows without using a cd/flash/other bootable?
[00:21] <Crashed> would I*
[00:22] <purpleposeidon> frank23: iwconfig might do what you want
[00:22] <cpk1> MrJigsaw: I am pretty sure that card is supported, you need to install the restricted modules (and maybe the headers for the kernel) of whatever kernel you are using and then install the nvidia driver, should be pretty straightforward, here is some documentation
[00:22] <cpk1> !nvidia | MrJigsaw
[00:22] <ubotu> MrJigsaw: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[00:23] <MrJigsaw> Nope
[00:23] <MrJigsaw> 7950GT isent supported :|
[00:23] <frank23> purpleposeidon: what about WPA?
[00:24] <sub[t]rnl> frank23➜ you can use wpa_supplicant
[00:25] <palomo> #kubuntu.es
[00:26] <sub[t]rnl> !wireless > frank23
[00:27] <MrJigsaw> How do i open a nvidia driver, kubuntu says ive installed one :) ?
[00:28] <frank23> sub[t]rnl: purpleposeidon: bah... it's not that important. My question was: Is there an 'easy' way   ;-)
[00:28] <oloughlin75> !adeptfix
[00:28] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[00:28] <purpleposeidon> frank23: Mice are hard.
[00:29] <frank23> purpleposeidon: hehe
[00:29] <sub[t]rnl> wpa_supplicant is fairly painless.  Just setup the network essid in the /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf and start it with an init script
[00:30] <Crashed> ;
[00:30] <MrJigsaw> æøå
[00:30] <sub[t]rnl> frank23➜ have you looked at kwifimanager?
[00:30] <MrJigsaw> Chould anyone tell me how to open the nvidia driver ? :)
[00:31] <biovore> !nvidia
[00:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[00:31] <frank23> sub[t]rnl: no. is that equivalent to knetwork-manager
[00:31] <MrJigsaw> i wanna know how to open it, WHEN INSTALLED :)
[00:31] <sub[t]rnl> frank23➜ two different apps
[00:31] <biovore> alt-f2 type in nvidia-settings
[00:32] <frank23> sub[t]rnl: yeah but what is the difference?
[00:32] <sub[t]rnl> not sure, have a looksie
[00:32] <frank23> sub[t]rnl: ok
[00:33] <MrJigsaw> Thanks biovore :)
[00:34] <MrJigsaw> Dual-View isent that good supported in linux yet, i see.
[00:35] <biovore> it is.. but you have to do something in xorg.conf to setup dual-view
[00:35] <biovore> no gui for setting it up..
[00:35] <MrJigsaw> ye
[00:35] <MrJigsaw> Well, there was a gui :)
[00:35] <MrJigsaw> But when i max kvirc on second screen it fills out both screens :)
[00:36] <biovore> yeah.. xineorama setting
[00:36] <MrJigsaw> So how do i make Amarok capable of playing mp3, WMA and FLAC  ? :D
[00:36] <biovore> !mediaubuntu
[00:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mediaubuntu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:36] <biovore> !restricted
[00:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[00:37] <MrJigsaw> uh, and how do i make FireFox default browser ? :D
[00:38] <IppatsuMan> MrJigsaw: Alt+f2 -> type kcontrol and press enter -> KDE Components -> Default Applications -> Web Browser
[00:39] <MrJigsaw> Thanks..
[00:39] <Stooge> i hope this is an ok question. i have a 64bit system running vista 32 bit, i an going to install Kubuntu on and duel boot. should i install the 64bit or 32bit Kubuntu, which is better?
[00:40] <biovore> dosn't really matter.. life is easier for beginners with the 32bit version.. (some things are busted on 64bit)
[00:40] <MrJigsaw> And now im  at all these starters questions, do anyone know why kvirc makes åæø squares? And how do i fix? :)
[00:41] <biovore> Has to do with the unicode language settings
[00:41] <XceII> Is there a room for (hardy)?
[00:41] <Stooge> what is busted on the 64bit? is it the nvidia drivers?
[00:41] <MrJigsaw> thanks biovore, i think i got it now :)=
[00:42] <frank23> XceII: yes #ubuntu+1
[00:42] <XceII> thanks frank, by the way, hardy alpha $ rocks
[00:42] <XceII> 4
[00:43] <XceII> have a good day folks
[00:45] <MrJigsaw> well
[00:45] <MrJigsaw> its 01:42 at my place.. kinda going to sleep soon ;P
[00:46] <Stooge> does anyone know what problems on the 64bit Kubuntu before install??? please.
[00:46] <biovore> basicly anything closed source
[00:46] <biovore> flash
[00:47] <biovore> they can work.. but its extra work to get them working..
[00:47] <Stooge> thats all??
[00:47] <biovore> multimedia codecs
[00:47] <biovore> some of them have problems on 64bit
[00:48] <biovore> The only real reason for 64bit is if your running 4GB or more..
[00:49] <Stooge> ok 32bit it will be. i am real good in windows but i am learning linux and have found it easier so far, don't care to take chances though. thanks for the help...:)
[00:50] <adambrzostowski> sweet
[00:53] <Crashed> Hey, is there an app that'll tell me the CPU temp, fan speeds, etc?
[00:56] <biovore> Crashed: Depends if your bios and hardware sensers are supported.
[00:56] <Crashed> They are.
[00:56] <biovore> I have seen some super karamba stuff that displays that stuff
[01:01] <jlr4u> x
[01:05] <mike> !apt-fix
[01:05] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[01:05] <stratman4300> what is the command to restart kicker???
[01:07] <stratman4300> !kicker
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kicker - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:09] <MrJigsaw> How come FireFox allways has troubles openning secure sites @ Kubuntu? :)
[01:11] <biovore> what do you mean by trouble?
[01:12] <MrJigsaw> it cant
[01:12] <MrJigsaw> it just stops all the time ;/
[01:12] <biovore> works here...
[01:14] <MrJigsaw> for example, this site: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865 it loades up, says done and goes in white screen
[01:20] <oloughlin75> Is there a way to speed up amarok? Whenever I edit trak information, it takes a while before its reflected in the list
[01:21] <MrJigsaw> i dont think amarok kan handle  51k songs ;-/
[01:22] <oloughlin75> I only have 3k!
[01:22] <MrJigsaw> It definetly cant handle 51k songs though
[01:22] <MrJigsaw> damn its slow ;>
[01:23] <oloughlin75> there a way to speed it up when I edit track information?
[01:23] <oloughlin75> I edited like 3 albums and its had the circle busy icon for like 5 minutes
[01:23] <biovore> MrJigsaw: takes a while to open each song and read the ID3 tags
[01:24] <biovore> and input them into a database
[01:24] <MrJigsaw> it sure does :)
[01:25] <MrJigsaw> Is koffeine better at handeling many files ?
[01:26] <biovore> once it builds the database its fast
[01:26] <MrJigsaw> Okay
[01:26] <biovore> only have to do it once..
[01:26] <MrJigsaw> Where is the sound options in kubuntu ?
[01:26] <biovore> kmix
[01:28] <Daisuke_Ido> amarok can handle 51k songs easily
[01:28] <Daisuke_Ido> ...but not with sqlite :\
[01:28] <MrJigsaw> sqlite? :)
[01:28] <oloughlin75> who has 51k songs?
[01:29] <MrJigsaw> I do
[01:29] <oloughlin75> legally?
[01:29] <MrJigsaw> get lost dude ;P
[01:29] <Daisuke_Ido> MrJigsaw: you're going to have to use mysql
[01:29] <oloughlin75> lol
[01:29] <oloughlin75> i would get lost with that much music
[01:29] <MrJigsaw> chould problably be counted on 2 hands how many legal CD's ive got ;)
[01:29] <Daisuke_Ido> 51k copies of 'in rainbows' that he legally paid $0.00 for
[01:29] <Daisuke_Ido> there we go
[01:30] <Daisuke_Ido> !piracy
[01:30] <ubotu> piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[01:30] <MrJigsaw> hehe lol
[01:30] <oloughlin75> too much to choose from
[01:30] <Daisuke_Ido> anywho
[01:30] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, mysql is the answer.  simple if you can follow directions :)
[01:30] <MrJigsaw> i think its working all right now :)
[01:30] <oloughlin75> How do I make amarok update so it reflects recent track information changes?
[01:31] <biovore> tell it to rescan.
[01:31] <oloughlin75> and wait..............
[01:31] <Daisuke_Ido> this is why you don't use sqlite.
[01:31] <biovore> rescan will just pick up the changes
[01:32] <oloughlin75> what do you use?
[01:32] <biovore> I use mysql on the backend here..
[01:32] <biovore> I have a fairly large collection here..
[01:32] <oloughlin75> is it noticeably better than sqlite?
[01:32] <biovore> I pull them all off network storage..
[01:32] <biovore> yes..
[01:32] <Daisuke_Ido> mysql, 35k+
[01:32] <biovore> sqlite has limits
[01:32] <Daisuke_Ido> noticably?  it blows sqlite out of the water.
[01:33] <biovore> mysql is an actual database server..
[01:33] <oloughlin75> i will look how to set it up
[01:33] <biovore> sqlite is a file on the disk..
[01:33] <biovore> google
[01:33] <oloughlin75> i did a rescan and it didnt fix the tracks that i changed....
[01:33] <Daisuke_Ido> http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/MySQL_HowTo
[01:34] <MrJigsaw> uhm, if i download a tar.gz file, how do i run it ?
[01:34] <Daisuke_Ido> ...?
[01:34] <biovore> tar.gz are like a zipfile
[01:35] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm afraid to ask what you downloaded, considering we're discussing amarok and mysel
[01:35] <Daisuke_Ido> mysql, even
[01:35] <MrJigsaw> Its legal
[01:35] <MrJigsaw> its aMSN :)
[01:35] <Daisuke_Ido> ahhh
[01:35] <Daisuke_Ido> don't bother
[01:35] <Daisuke_Ido> just go with pidgin :D
[01:35] <Daisuke_Ido> orr...
[01:35] <sub[t]rnl> use the repo's
[01:35] <Daisuke_Ido> !amsn
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amsn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:35] <Daisuke_Ido> !info amsn
[01:35] <ubotu> amsn (source: amsn): An MSN messenger written in Tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.97RC1+dfsg-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 3371 kB, installed size 10956 kB
[01:36] <Daisuke_Ido> there.
[01:36] <MrJigsaw> i dont like pidgin that much..
[01:36] <Daisuke_Ido> MrJigsaw: imma let you in on a little secret concerning *buntu.  the repos are your friend :D
[01:36] <MrJigsaw> repos ? :)
[01:37] <oloughlin75> Blah, now the 40 tracks dont have my changes
[01:38] <sub[t]rnl> MrJigsaw➜ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[01:38] <sub[t]rnl> read up on that.
[01:38] <MrJigsaw> mkay
[01:39] <MrJigsaw> well
[01:40] <oloughlin75> Amarok isnt letting me change track information......
[01:44] <MrJigsaw> That dident help me much in my seeking in how i use the file? :D
[01:44] <oloughlin75> does anyone know why? I cant even change a single track...
[01:44] <MrJigsaw> Ive been trying apt-cache search, and apt-get install, but install finds an old one and search finds nothing ;/
[01:45] <sub[t]rnl> MrJigsaw➜ it should have made you realize that the application you are after is probably in the repo's.  And installing a pre packaged .deb from the repositories is as simple as 	sudo apt-get amsn	 rather than unzipping and compiling anything from source
[01:46] <Daisuke_Ido> sudo apt-get install amsn*
[01:46] <MrJigsaw> compiling dude.. i got kubuntu first time TODAY :/
[01:47] <oloughlin75> MrJigsaw: what are you trying to do?
[01:48] <MrJigsaw> Installing the newest build of aMSN
[01:48] <onesandzeros> hello all.  Any of you guys know how I can see all the make targets in the kernel?  I'm building from source and need a little refresher on how it all works.
[01:48] <oloughlin75> in the terminal type: sudo apt-get install amsn*
[01:48] <MrJigsaw> Ive done that ffs..
[01:48] <MrJigsaw> But its an OLD build..
[01:49] <oloughlin75> you have to download it and compile it than
[01:49] <sub[t]rnl> packages in the repositories aim at stability over bleeding edge.  If there isn't an absolute reason you need the latest, stick with simplicity (especially if your new)
[01:49] <MrJigsaw> How do i compile i then ? :)
[01:50] <MrJigsaw> Well.. this one is looking shit, like it dosent support my high resulotion
[01:50] <oloughlin75> MrJigsaw: cd to the directory, sudo ./configure, sudo make, and finally sudo make install
[01:50] <Daisuke_Ido> !language
[01:50] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[01:50] <sub[t]rnl> no need to sudo ./configure or make
[01:50] <Daisuke_Ido> and what's so different between the two?
[01:50] <Daisuke_Ido> repos: .97
[01:51] <Daisuke_Ido> site: .97
[01:51] <Daisuke_Ido> ...hmm
[01:51] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, i will say the repo version is a release candidate
[01:51] <MrJigsaw> cSo how do i find the directory ?
[01:52] <Daisuke_Ido> but major features don't materialize between a release candidate and a final.
[01:52] <oloughlin75> wherver you downloaded and extracted
[01:52] <MrJigsaw> I kinda just let it go press y when needen ;P
[01:53] <MrJigsaw> oh fuck it, guess ill just use pidgin :)
[01:56] <Daisuke_Ido> !ohmy | MrJigsaw, ONCE again
[01:56] <ubotu> MrJigsaw, ONCE again: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[01:58] <oloughlin75> Does anybody know if the linux eclipse uses the same files for the workspace as the windows version?
[01:58] <ses59_> I am trying to run kvm and load a winxp but every command that I found on the internet none would work
[02:01] <geoff270> Hello. Anyone solved problem of adding/remove drives with resulting mis-ordering/loading of drives, next boot
[02:02] <geoff270> @ sdc1 becomes sdd1, so need to edit fstab, etc, every time add/remove drives
[02:02] <sub[t]rnl> does the same thing happen if you use the drives UUID in fstab?
[02:02] <geoff270> ?
[02:04] <sub[t]rnl> try ex. 	blkid /dev/sda2	 then using that as the /dev/ entry in your fstab
[02:04] <geoff270> haven't used uuid in fstab
[02:05] <sub[t]rnl> i'm pretty sure that will solve your troubles
[02:06] <oloughlin75> whats a good java ide?
[02:08] <geoff270> thank you
[02:30] <billytwowilly> anybody know the technical name for that 4 pin power connector on the back of most portable hard drives?
[02:30] <Dr_willis> the molex conector?
[02:31] <Dr_willis> 4 pin, white plastic,  bevels on 2 corners. :)
[02:31] <billytwowilly> I dunno, it's round.
[02:31] <billytwowilly> black, inlayed in the case of the portable hard drive.
[02:31] <Dr_willis> round? Hmm.. That sounds like a Power supply connector.
[02:31] <billytwowilly> It has a 5 V , a 12 V and 2 ground wires.
[02:31] <billytwowilly> yah, it would be.
[02:31] <billytwowilly> I need the more technical name.
[02:31] <Dr_willis> That can vary dependng on the brand of portable hd/enclosuer
[02:31] <billytwowilly> I'm trying to find a dc-dc car lighter power adaptor for it.
[02:32] <Dr_willis> I got like 5 different portable hd's and they all got different conectors.
[02:32] <me> I feel stupid, but why did my Gutsy installation CD use LILO instead of Grub?
[02:32] <Dr_willis> Proberly be best to get a dc-ac adaptor and use the one that came with the hd.
[02:32] <billytwowilly> lame. So I'm probably stuck going with the incredibly hackish dc-ac-dc route.
[02:32] <billytwowilly> yep.
[02:32] <Dr_willis> if the thing wants 5v and 12v - you aint going to get both from the cig. lighter. :)
[02:32] <Harik> Hi Guys I have a question for the ssh-professionals :D           How can I connect through a gateway-server to another server using  fish ?
[02:33] <Dr_willis> not without some other bits.
[02:33] <billytwowilly> ok, that's too bad, but I'll do it. how many watts you think I need for a hard drive? 75 enough?
[02:34] <Dr_willis> Id think thats plenty
[02:34] <billytwowilly> ok, off to canadian tire.
[02:34] <Dr_willis> My car has a AC plug allready built in. :)
[02:34] <Dr_willis> wish all the car makers would do that.
[02:34] <billytwowilly> Is it a 2007 civic?
[02:35] <billytwowilly> maybe mine has one.. I just got it Saturday...
[02:35] <billytwowilly> Also, how do I look for a library in a package with adept?
[02:35] <Dr_willis> Nope. Dodge ram truck.    ive seen them sort of 'hidden' inside the center console, or right at the base of the console and so on.
[02:35] <Dr_willis> I just do 'apt-cache search library name'
[02:36] <Dr_willis> !find libsdl
[02:36] <ubotu> Found: libsdl-image1.2, libsdl-image1.2-dev, libsdl-mixer1.2, libsdl-mixer1.2-dev, libsdl-ttf2.0-0 (and 28 others)
[02:36] <billytwowilly> !find libutempter
[02:36] <ubotu> Package/file libutempter does not exist in gutsy
[02:36] <Dr_willis> bummer.
[02:36] <billytwowilly> doesn't show up.
[02:36] <Dr_willis> It may not be in the repos.
[02:36] <billytwowilly> hmm. How does the transkode plugin work on amarok on my server, but not on my laptop?;)
[02:38] <billytwowilly> hmm. I bet I didn't have the cbinding for tag lib installed.
[02:47] <Agent_bob> back
[02:49] <stratman4300> has anyone installed any of the KDE4 packages yet??
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> stratman4300➜ sure
[02:50] <sub[t]rnl> yes sir
[02:50] <stratman4300> does it install pretty cleanly next to KDE3....  no breakage??
[02:51] <sub[t]rnl> indeed.  I've only found a couple instances in file association that a kde4 app was called instead of a kde3.
[02:51] <sub[t]rnl> nothing that wasn't easily fixed.
[02:51] <nosrednaekim> stratman4300➜ works really well here.
[02:52] <stratman4300> cool.... think i might try it out tonight....  thanks for the info =)
[02:53] <Agent_bob> well if there is no linux issues to solve    maybe i'll play a game or something.
[02:54] <sub[t]rnl> hehe, might be a quite night
[02:55] <Agent_bob> well i could break something....
[02:55] <sub[t]rnl> going through your code Agent_bob, and sipping some wine
[02:55] <sub[t]rnl> good times :>
[02:55]  * Agent_bob 's code was not writen in wine
[02:55] <Agent_bob> wine is wine is not an emulator
[02:56] <Agent_bob> :)
[02:56]  * nosrednaekim wants to hack ruckus into running in WINE
[02:56] <sub[t]rnl> :>
[02:57] <thomas_newbie__> why does this command give me "NO SUCH FILE OR DIRECTORY" error? --->sudo find . -name '*.c' -exec "grep -i [ass]" '{}' \;
[02:57] <sub[t]rnl> the only time I run anything in wine is when its dropped in my glass..
[02:57] <sub[t]rnl>  /endjoke
[02:57] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: haha
[02:58] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ perhaps none of your .c's have "ass" in it?
[02:58] <Agent_bob> thomas_newbie__ cause you have no .c files in the pwd or any subdirs ?
[02:58] <thomas_newbie__> hmmm
[02:58] <Agent_bob> thomas_newbie__ actually it's a syntax error
[02:59] <Agent_bob>  -exec "grep -i [ass]"  <<<< can not execute  "grep -i [ass]"
[02:59] <thomas_newbie__> Agent_bob: why
[02:59] <Agent_bob> because there is no file named  "grep -i [ass]"
[03:00] <Agent_bob> touch  "grep -i [ass]" ; chmod 755  "grep -i [ass]"
[03:00] <Agent_bob> now you can execute it.
[03:01] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ hehe, he's telling you to take the quotes off it
[03:01] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: haha yea
[03:01] <thomas_newbie__> got it :S
[03:03] <Agent_bob> in that case you're welcome.
[03:06] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: shoot its not giving me the words :( sudo find . -name '*.c' -exec grep -i [fuk] '{}' \;          /////spelt correctly :S
[03:07] <Agent_bob> single quote your search string
[03:07] <Agent_bob> and why are you running it as root ?
[03:07] <ses59_> if you uninstall kde 4 and it will not boot correctly look at installing kdm again with apt-get
[03:08]  * Agent_bob wonders what kdm has to do with booting...
[03:08] <ses59_> i tried kde 4 but uninstalled after problems and kde 3 did not work till i installed kdm again
[03:09] <ses59_> it was uninstalled with the kde 4 stuff
[03:09] <Agent_bob> kde will work without kdm   or any dm for that matter.
[03:09] <ses59_> yes if you want to command line in but i wanted the manager back
[03:10] <Agent_bob> all ?dm does is give you a graphical login prompt     or automaticly log someone in.
[03:10] <sub[t]rnl> if you properly uninstall the exact packages you pull from the ppa repo, you won't run into problems.
[03:10] <TuB^> Hi. Anyone around to help? Have just installed Kubuntu, but don't think the driver for my graphics card has installed (or installed properly). It's a Radeon Mobility HD 2400. I followed instructions to install the fglrx driver, but that doesn't seem to have made any difference. It's not showing on the Restricted Drivers Manager either. Any ideas?
[03:10] <ses59_> this is true but my permissions was wrong on login without manager so just a note to check if kde 4 is uninstalled
[03:11] <nosrednaekim> TuB^➜ is that a really new Gfx card?
[03:11] <ses59_> just wanted you to have the info in case you needed it for kde 4
[03:11] <sub[t]rnl> ses59_➜ k, thanks for the info then ses59_
[03:11] <thomas_newbie__> Agent_bob: i'm running as root because I'm executing /usr/src
[03:12] <TuB^> nosrednaekim: Came out in summer 07 I've read somewhere.
[03:12] <Agent_bob> thomas_newbie__ the command you posted should not need sudo
[03:12] <nosrednaekim> TuB^➜ ok, then you'll need the latest ATI drivers
[03:12] <Agent_bob> it's only displaying info to stdout   which is non-root anyway
[03:13] <nosrednaekim> TuB^➜ the ones in restricted-manager don't support those.
[03:13] <thomas_newbie__> Agent_bob: I think when I execute it its giving me all code
[03:14] <jacob> test
[03:14] <TuB^> nosrednaekim: Any chance you can point me to a hold-your-hand guide for this? If not, I'm sure google's my friend!
[03:14] <jacob> Hey
[03:14] <nosrednaekim> TuB^➜ yeah...one moment
[03:14] <Agent_bob> thomas_newbie__ the only reason i mentioned it, is your nick sujests that you might not fully understand why and what sudo actually does.    unnessecary over use of sudo is no better than logging in as root.
[03:15] <jacob> OK people, tell me this - if I downloaded Ubuntu Hardy, but installed kubuntu-desktop, and use KDE 80% of the time, barely ever use Gnome apps (boo), and have the "Kubuntu" screens during boot and shut-down, am I an Ubuntu user or a Kubuntu user?
[03:15] <hydrogen> mm
[03:15] <hydrogen> well
[03:15] <thomas_newbie__> Agent_bob: yes i now what sudo does.....you're right
[03:15] <hydrogen> people blow the dangers of root out of proportion in my opinion
[03:15] <nosrednaekim> jacob➜ you are a Linux user :)
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> TuB^➜ http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[03:16] <jacob> Yup, but more specifically...I say I'm an "Ubuntu KDE" user
[03:16] <jacob> Ubuntu / KDE
[03:16] <thomas_newbie__> Agent_bob: but it doesn't give me the specific lines with those words
[03:17] <TuB^> Thanks a lot, nosrednaekim
[03:17] <nosrednaekim> TuB^➜ uninstall any previous drivers you installed first though
[03:17] <TuB^> Yeah, am on that
[03:17] <sub[t]rnl> jacob➜ kubuntu -is- ubuntu + kde
[03:17] <nosrednaekim> jacob➜ call yourself what you want.... as long as you use KDE, we won't send Konqui after you :)
[03:17] <sub[t]rnl> ...
[03:18] <sub[t]rnl> remember back in the day when we logged in as root, compiled our own kernels every month, and checked tripwire logs?
[03:18]  * sub[t]rnl goes back to his wine
[03:19] <MrJoey> Maybe the GNOME mascot should be Beowulf (because in the story, he fights a dragon :) )
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> lol
[03:20] <jacob> Does Kubuntu use Synaptic by default?
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> no.... Adept
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> but I use synaptic anyway
[03:20] <jacob> Ah, I've seen that
[03:20] <jacob> Yeah, I prefer Synaptic
[03:20] <sub[t]rnl> bah, no loyalty
[03:21] <sener> is there an issue with the repositories lately?
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> sener➜ not that I know of
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> sub[t]rnl➜ heh, im interesting in the kde4 adept.
[03:21] <sener> i keep jamming up when apt-get update or install
[03:22] <sub[t]rnl> nosrednaekim➜ :>
[03:22] <jacob> I have KDE4 on here...but I still use KDE 3.5
[03:22] <jacob> Anybody notice the resemblance of KDE 4 to Vista?
[03:22] <sener> just thought there was an issue at the repo end.
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> nope
[03:26] <drif> how can I avoid getting into maintenance mode on boot if there's drive missing which is included in /etc/fstab?
[03:26] <Stoffer> looking for an opinion:  I couldn't get my external ntfs usb hard drive working in ubuntu because of a policy issue or something, so I just converted it to fat32.  That was a good idea right?  No serious drawbacks to a fat32 filesystem over ntfs?
[03:27] <sub[t]rnl> drif➜ you'll need to configure your divices to use a UUID
[03:27] <sub[t]rnl> drif➜ that is if your switching out drives and they are getting a different device node and boot order.. use 	blkid /dev/whatever
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> Stoffer➜ you can't store files over 2 gigs(I think)... but otherwise you are good
[03:28] <Stoffer> wait...that's a serious drawback
[03:28] <Stoffer> no...that won't work at all
[03:28] <Stoffer> sheeee-ooot
[03:28] <sener> since i installed a new linksys router - i'm having this issue when i apt-get - : 99% [Connecting to ca.archive.ubuntu.com (129.97.134.71)] and it times out - any idea why?
[03:28] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: could you help me with that command
[03:29] <Stoffer> ok...well, then I'll be back later trying to get an external ntfs usb drive working
[03:29] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ which?
[03:29] <Stoffer> nosrednaekim, thansk
[03:29] <nosrednaekim> Stoffer➜ does it need to be accessed by windows?you could always use ext3
[03:29] <scott_> My sister is having a serious sound problem that I can't seem to fix
[03:30] <Stoffer> nosrednaekim, yeah, because I'm planning to use it to copy files from a windows machine
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> ah..ok
[03:30] <Stoffer> nosrednaekim, if the world was perfect, and everyone ran linux, then np
[03:30] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: find . -name "*.c" -exec grep -i [fuck] '{}' \;
[03:30] <Stoffer> nosrednaekim, unfortunately....
[03:30] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ lets keep the language out of it
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> Stoffer➜ ^_^
[03:31] <Stoffer> nosrednaekim, then again the ntfs-3g issue w/ externals in k/ubuntu isn't that convenient either.... I don't even understand the problem...
[03:31] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: ok sorry, but you get the idea. Well just a question I don't understand the part after the swear word. And It's not working...its giving me output but not any matches...just lines of code
[03:31] <Stoffer> nosrednaekim, ntfs-config definitely doesn't fix it
[03:32] <drif> can I use 'default' and noauto in conjunction in fstab line? does the latter outrule auto (as set by default)
[03:33] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ remove the ['s from your piped grep pattern
[03:33] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ if your wanting to redirect stderr, add 2>&- to the end (if your using bash) otherwise, use 2>/dev/null
[03:33] <oloughlin75> How do I kill a process I dont have permission o kill?
[03:34] <sub[t]rnl> sudo
[03:37] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: ok I think i'm running the command in the right directory /usr/src. I ran it at school under Fedora and got a lot of results from programers comments...but i'm not finding anything here
[03:39] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, best to read up on find and grep then.  Just break it down find . (find in the current directory that you run it from) -name "*.c" (any files ending with .c) -exec (run this command on found matches) grep -i (filter for, not case sensitive)
[03:40] <sub[t]rnl> just change the . to a more general location, like /usr, if you want a broader search
[03:42] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ if you wanted to know the '{}' \; at the end, thats just a normal part of the -exec in find, to run the command once on every file found.. you can also read up on 	xargs	 as a program to pipe find too.
[03:44] <scott_> My sister is having a serious sound problem that I can't seem to fix
[03:44] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: OK i see, thanks for the help.
[03:45] <denise> my sound will not work and my brother is really good at computers
[03:46] <sub[t]rnl> !alsa | scott_
[03:46] <ubotu> scott_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:46] <sub[t]rnl> troubleshooting link is very helpfull
[03:47] <scott_> The sound system is enabled
[03:47] <scott_> All she gets is a looping sound
[03:48] <scott_> like a piece of the sound is in a loop
[03:48] <denise> we are both on here lol
[03:48] <sub[t]rnl> hehe, ok, show me lspci -v |grep -i audio
[03:48] <sub[t]rnl> run that from konsole
[03:50] <denise> 00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 06)
[03:50] <denise>         Subsystem: Ensoniq Creative Sound Blaster AudioPCI64V, AudioPCI128
[03:50] <denise> 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
[03:50] <sub[t]rnl> the ES1371 is supported, so far so good
[03:51] <denise> ok
[03:52] <sub[t]rnl> i'm guessing you've tried playing different types audio media?
[03:52] <scott_> Both ogg, MP3, and streaming audio from the nwt
[03:53] <sub[t]rnl> try this modprobe snd-ens1371
[03:54] <sub[t]rnl> let me know if you get any output
[03:55] <denise> ok
[03:55] <denise> No, same thing
[03:56] <denise> sounds like a broken record
[03:56] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, really strange
[03:56] <sub[t]rnl> :/
[03:57] <scott_> As I said, I can't figure it out
[03:57] <scott_> I have never seen anything like it
[03:57] <purpleposeidon> denise: A broken.... what? ;)
[03:57] <sub[t]rnl> scott_➜ yeah, that makes two
[03:57] <scott_> I was thinking about doing a re-install of the OS
[03:58] <sub[t]rnl> scott_➜ just to make sure that sound module is loaded, do lsmod |grep ens
[03:59] <denise>  modprobe snd-ens1371
[03:59] <denise> denise@ubuntu:~$ lsmod |grep ens
[03:59] <denise> snd_ens1371            27680  3
[03:59] <denise> gameport               16776  2 snd_via82xx,snd_ens1371
[03:59] <denise> snd_ac97_codec        100644  3 snd_via82xx,snd_via82xx_modem,snd_ens1371
[03:59] <denise> snd_pcm                80388  6 snd_via82xx,snd_via82xx_modem,snd_ens1371,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
[03:59] <denise> snd_rawmidi            25728  3 snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_midi,snd_ens1371
[03:59] <denise> snd                    54660  19 snd_via82xx,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_oss,snd_via82xx_modem,snd_ens1371,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_timer
[03:59] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, its loaded
[04:00] <sub[t]rnl> did the trouble just happen automagically? or was it like this from scratch
[04:00] <denise> it was working fine then no sound at all I took my computer to scott to fix it
[04:01] <sub[t]rnl> wild
[04:01] <sub[t]rnl> sorry I couldn't help more
[04:01] <scott_> That is okay, you tried some stuff I did not :)
[04:01] <scott_> I can only think of a defective motherboard
[04:02] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, that could be
[04:02] <sub[t]rnl> is the sound like a reverbing echo that gets louder?
[04:02] <sub[t]rnl> or the same constant loop of sound
[04:02] <denise> then my computer is f@#$ed
[04:03] <hydrogen> Please, watch the language
[04:03] <scott_> No, not louder
[04:03] <scott_> The same constant loop
[04:04] <sub[t]rnl> k, last ditch effort would be adjust settings in alsamixer, but i doubt that will fix your woes..
[04:04] <denise> sorry
[04:04] <sub[t]rnl> bbiab
[04:04] <scott_> I tried fooling around with kmix
[04:04] <denise> you know how hard it is to whatch something on utube with no sound
[04:05] <scott_> I also tried a live cd, the only one I had was the 6.06
[04:05] <scott_> I got the same thing with the amarok in 6.06
[04:07] <sub[t]rnl> scott_➜ you've only tried with amarok?
[04:08] <denise> i also like to use amarok on my computer if we cant fix it i will have to remove it :(
[04:08] <scott_> I tried kaffiene in the 6.06, but it crashed on me
[04:08] <sub[t]rnl> ok, i would try a couple other media players.
[04:08] <scott_> On her current Kubuntu 7.10 I also tried other things
[04:09] <sub[t]rnl> k.  pop into #amarok and see if anyone has seen this problem.
[04:09] <scott_> Okay, I will have her try xine or mplayer
[04:09] <sub[t]rnl> thats where you'll find the audio geeks :>
[04:09] <scott_> but, she gets no sound systems though
[04:11] <sub[t]rnl> try with mplayer for sure though
[04:11] <jacob> Speaking of Amarok, how does it work for peopel here?
[04:11] <jacob> Crashes a lot in Hardy for me
[04:11] <sub[t]rnl> xine is amaroks engine
[04:11] <jacob> Though lately it hasn't been so bad
[04:11] <sub[t]rnl> amarok is great here. best thing since sliced bread
[04:12] <jacob> I really love the program, it just needs to smooth its edges
[04:12] <jacob> Or maybe it's just the fact that I'm using an alpha version of the distro
[04:12] <jacob> I hope it's the latter
[04:12] <sub[t]rnl> tis
[04:12] <jacob> Main problem is with internet streams...it sometimes goes unstable trying to add them, and a lot of the time I get a stupid "demux plugin not available" message, even though clicking the stream again brings it up just fine
[04:13] <jacob> They say it's a problem with the current xine-lib that's supposed to be fixed in the next release
[04:13] <jacob> 1.1.12 or something
[04:13] <jacob> Apparently it's available in CVS or something but I'm too lazy to get it and install it
[04:13] <jacob> But otherwise Amarok has been behaving well the last day or two
[04:14] <jacob> Just got the message..."No suitable demux plugin. This often means that the file format is not supported."
[04:14] <jacob> But clicking on the stream again, no problem at all
[04:18] <denise> I tried Mplayer and same thing
[04:19] <scott_> It seems to very slowly play through the song, but while looping
[04:25] <kernco> I'm running a live cd right now, not sure if it's 32-bit or 64-bit.  How can I find out?
[04:26] <sub[t]rnl> scott_➜ hrm
[04:26] <sub[t]rnl> scott_➜ mind trying something real quick?
[04:26] <genii> kernco: Is it red or yellow?
[04:27] <kernco> I burnt it from an image I downloaded...just forgot to label it >_<
[04:27] <denise> ok
[04:27] <scott_> what is that?
[04:27] <frank23> jacob: I noticed that too in gutsy  No suitable demux plugin.
[04:27] <genii> kernco: uname -a     should tell you
[04:28] <scott_> Yea, I get the "No suitible demux plugin" as well when I know I can play the sound
[04:28] <kernco> genii: Thanks
[04:29] <sub[t]rnl> scott_➜ edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst and add pnpbios=off in the kernel boot line
[04:30] <scott_> Allright, I will get my sister to do that
[04:30] <sub[t]rnl> kk
[04:31] <frank23> sub[t]rnl: how do you do those arrows?
[04:31] <kernco> -> maybe?
[04:31] <kernco> nope :P
[04:32] <david_> i seem to have lost the kmenu on black bar along the bottom of my screen... i'm in kde4 and cannot restore it, and googled to no avail, does anyone know what i might be able to do to get it back?
[04:35] <denise> im back
[04:35] <david_> hi denise.
[04:36] <sub[t]rnl> denise➜ did you add pnpbios=off to your /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[04:36] <denise> Yea
[04:37] <sub[t]rnl> no change then?
[04:37] <denise> And I rebooted
[04:37] <denise> no change
[04:37] <denise> hi david
[04:37] <sub[t]rnl> k, it was an old bug fix I dug up on launchpad.  had to take a stab at it.
[04:38] <david_> let me know when it's my turn please,  did'nt mean to request help out of turn.
[04:38] <sub[t]rnl> david_➜ hehe, try alt + f2 and type plasma
[04:38] <sub[t]rnl> didn't mean to ignore ya.  If you need any further help, try #kubuntu-kde4
[04:39] <scott_> I'm just going to do the re-install of Kubuntu
[04:39] <scott_> for her
[04:39] <denise> i really hope that works
[04:39]  * sub[t]rnl nods
[04:39] <david_> sub[t]rnl: nothing happened.
[04:39] <scott_> If that does not fix it, we will know it is hardware
[04:39] <denise> yicks
[04:39] <david_> alt f2 brought up the command interface
[04:39] <sub[t]rnl> aye
[04:39] <david_> but plasma brings nothing up
[04:40] <denise> night
[04:40] <david_> run plasma (command)
[04:40] <david_> click launch
[04:40] <david_> then nothing
[04:41] <sub[t]rnl> david_➜ try #kubuntu-kde4
[04:42] <stratman4300> is there currently a "Kubuntu" way of installing compiz and emerald....
[04:42] <stratman4300> someway so it doesn't install all the gnome crap  like the libs and what not??
[04:42] <sub[t]rnl> yes sir
[04:42] <david_> sub[t]rnl: , i'm there now, tyvm
[04:42] <sub[t]rnl> well.. compiz was written for gnome, so some deps are going to be included
[04:43] <stratman4300> right...  i figured that much
[04:43] <sub[t]rnl> !compiz | stratman4300
[04:43] <ubotu> stratman4300: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[04:43] <stratman4300> cool Thanks!! =)
[04:43] <sub[t]rnl> yup, they will give you the apt-get command for kubuntu on the page
[04:45] <david_> unfortunatly, it seems as though nobody is active in that channel.
[04:45] <stratman4300> they working on a little desktop effects app for kubuntu in hardy i wonder???
[04:45] <stratman4300> like the one they have in gnome??
[04:46] <stratman4300> i don't mind the CLI, but it's nice to click a button and have it done you know   ;)
[04:46] <sub[t]rnl> yup, not a little though, a full blown compositing effects kdm.
[04:47] <stratman4300> i might have to load hardy up on a VM
[04:47] <stratman4300> it's still in Alpha isn't it??
[04:47] <sub[t]rnl> yeah
[04:51] <sub[t]rnl> david_➜ have you restarted kde4? still no plasma?
[04:52] <david_> what is plasma?
[04:52] <sub[t]rnl> its the menu bar at the bottom of kde4
[04:52] <david_> i have that. i'm just missing the big K icon.  lol
[04:52] <sub[t]rnl> aaah
[04:52] <sub[t]rnl> :P
[04:53] <david_> i cannot for the life of me, figure out how to her the application launcher (i think that's what it's called) back
[04:54] <sub[t]rnl> try this.. cp ~/.kde4/share/config/plasmarc{,.backup}
[04:54] <sub[t]rnl> from konsole
[04:55] <snarkster> what do you do to get knetworkmanager working?
[04:55] <sub[t]rnl> and this   cp ~/.kde4/share/config/plamsa-appletsrc{,.backup}
[04:56] <david_> went to next line.
[04:56] <david_> KLauncher could not be reached via D-Bus, error when calling start_service_by_desktop_path:
[04:56] <david_> empty
[04:56] <addlp> !kubuntu español
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu español - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <addlp> !kubuntu-es
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-es - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <sub[t]rnl> !es | addlp
[04:56] <ubotu> addlp: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[04:56] <snarkster> !knetworkmanager
[04:56] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up
[04:57] <sub[t]rnl> david_➜ did you do the second one I gave you as well?
[04:57] <david_> just now
[04:57] <addlp> muchas gracias
[04:57] <david_> waiting to see.....
[04:57] <sub[t]rnl> david_➜ ok, now %killall plasma && plasma &	 from konsole
[04:57] <sub[t]rnl> david_➜ ok, now 	killall plasma && plasma &	 from konsole
[04:58] <david_> killed. restarted, no K icon.
[04:58] <david_> i deleted it on accident from the panel. :(
[04:59] <david_> i have the 4 desktops, the klipper, wifi strength, speaker and clock
[04:59] <sub[t]rnl> david_➜ ok wait, we just made backups, my fault.  now rm ~/.kde4/share/config/plasmarc && rm ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-appletsrc
[05:00] <sub[t]rnl> david_➜ then kill and restart plasma
[05:00] <Ryu010>  im running gos and i cant get bcm43xx to install can someone help me out?
[05:00] <sub[t]rnl> !bcm43xx | Ryu010
[05:00] <ubotu> Ryu010: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[05:00] <david_> done
[05:00] <Ryu010> lol everyone sends me the link to bcm43xx and it never helps
[05:01] <david_> ryu, what notebook? i might be able to help
[05:01] <sub[t]rnl> snarkster➜ remove any lines from /etc/network/interface that have to do with your interface device
[05:01] <Ryu010> tx1000
[05:01] <Ryu010> its an hp
[05:02] <sub[t]rnl> david_➜ you rm'd those files and restarted plasma? any change?
[05:02] <david_> i'm on a ZV6000. i'll help you in a second
[05:02] <Ryu010> alright
[05:02] <thomas_newbie__> how can I disable sshd from starting up on boot without having to create a sshd_not_to_be_fun file
[05:02] <david_> holy crap, now i have every icon under the sun
[05:02] <sub[t]rnl> david_➜ :P
[05:03] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ sudo update-rc.d sshd remove
[05:03] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: i don't want to remove ssh though....
[05:03] <thomas_newbie__> oh
[05:03] <sub[t]rnl> thomas_newbie__➜ your not, your just disabling it from starting during default runlevels
[05:04] <thomas_newbie__> sub[t]rnl: ty
[05:04] <sub[t]rnl> np
[05:06] <david_> one more minute here Ryu010
[05:06] <Ryu010> ok :)
[05:07] <david_> ryu what have you tried so far?
[05:08] <Ryu010> lots of packages and about 10 different tutorials
[05:08] <david_> did you get network-manager installed?
[05:08] <david_> do you have an eth1 and an eth0?
[05:09] <Ryu010> i spent a week using kubuntu trying to get it to work there, i had no luck
[05:09] <Ryu010> what network manager?
[05:09] <david_> any.
[05:09] <david_> lol
[05:09] <Ryu010> i installed the os on my toshiba laptop as well
[05:09] <coreymon77> david_: ooh!, network problems, my specialty!
[05:09] <Ryu010> wifi works there
[05:10] <coreymon77> who has the wifi problems
[05:10] <david_> coreymon77: ryu
[05:10] <coreymon77> Ryu010: yay! my specialty!
[05:10] <Ryu010> lol
[05:10] <Ryu010> good
[05:11] <Ryu010> i have been trying with many different distros and stuff all week
[05:11] <Ryu010> i am about to give up and go back to vista or xp :(
[05:11] <sub[t]rnl> don't blame linux, blame broadcom :P
[05:12] <coreymon77> Ryu010: my turn
[05:12] <Ryu010> alright
[05:12] <coreymon77> Ryu010: listen to sub[t]rnl, he knows what hes talking about :P
[05:12] <coreymon77> Ryu010: so, what seems to be the problem *takes out stethoscope*
[05:13] <Ryu010> i cant get a wifi driver
[05:13] <coreymon77> alrighty then
[05:13] <coreymon77> step into my office :P
[05:14] <coreymon77> give me a sec
[05:14] <Ryu010> Broadcom 4328 wireless card
[05:15] <genii> Ryu010: sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[05:16] <Ryu010> do i need to have an net connection when i run that
[05:16] <genii> no
[05:16] <coreymon77> Ryu010: and what version are we using here
[05:16] <Ryu010> of?
[05:16] <coreymon77> ku
[05:16] <sub[t]rnl> hiya genii :>
[05:16]  * sub[t]rnl rattles cup
[05:16] <genii> hiya sub[t]rnl :)
[05:17] <coreymon77> Ryu010: kubuntu
[05:17] <Ryu010> i switched from kubuntu to gos
[05:17]  * genii fills sub[t]rnl's cup with fresh strong coffee
[05:17]  * sub[t]rnl taps fingertips together
[05:17] <sub[t]rnl> eeexcellent
[05:17] <coreymon77> Ryu010: im talking edgy feisty gusty etc
[05:18] <Ryu010> i dont know?
[05:18] <Ryu010> http://www.thinkgos.com/
[05:19] <aharoon> i want another program other than ktorrent it never increase its download speed change from 0.6-3.0 kb/s it makes mee crazy
[05:19] <coreymon77> Ryu010: oh, so we are not using kubuntu?
[05:19] <Ryu010> i could install kubuntu again
[05:19] <Ryu010> it should be the same on gos, its the same base right?
[05:20] <coreymon77> Ryu010: i was just expecting you to be using kubuntu if you were asking help on this channel
[05:20] <coreymon77> Ryu010: not neccessarily
[05:20] <zhangkai> I install kde4 ,but found  the desktop toolbar got away.
[05:20] <coreymon77> Ryu010: im not sure what gos is based off of
[05:20] <Ryu010> i asked on many other channels and no one knew anything
[05:21] <Xavier_Z> coreymon77: yeah, gOS is based upon Ubuntu, it refers to Ubuntu documents for FAQs
[05:21] <coreymon77> Xavier_Z: its *buntu based
[05:21] <coreymon77> okey dokey
[05:21] <Ryu010> gos is ubuntu with enlightenment
[05:21] <genii> Ryu010: Have you done yet:      sudo modprobe bcm43xx                ?
[05:21] <coreymon77> Ryu010: then we should be fine
[05:21] <Ryu010> yeah
[05:21] <Ryu010> it did nothing
[05:21] <sub[t]rnl> !azureus | aharoon (though if ktorrent is slow, probably not port forwarding correctly or iptables issue)
[05:21] <ubotu> aharoon (though if ktorrent is slow, probably not port forwarding correctly or iptables issue): azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[05:22] <coreymon77> Xavier_Z: based off which buntu?
[05:22] <snarkster> sub[t]rnl: why is it that you have to edit /etc/network/interfaces at all?
[05:22] <genii> Ryu010: Did you expect it to start dancing ;) No msg means it accomplished loading the module
[05:22] <Ryu010> ok
[05:22] <coreymon77> Xavier_Z: i tend to use the wifidocs and like to know which version we are using
[05:22] <aharoon> i forworded the ports  but nothing happened
[05:22] <sub[t]rnl> snarkster➜ if you have something defined other than default in /etc/network/interfaces, knetworkmanager will not control it
[05:22] <coreymon77> Ryu010: ya, heres a lesson about linux
[05:22] <genii> Ryu010: Are you using KDE right now as desktop?
[05:22] <Xavier_Z> ryu010: http://www.faqly.com/question/view/id/993
[05:23] <coreymon77> Ryu010: if you input a command and you get no output back, thats usually a good thing
[05:23] <genii> coreymon77: Yes, it's weird. When it doesn't say anything after a command ppl think it didn't do anything :)
[05:24] <Ryu010> not with mandriva, i usually use it but my licence expired
[05:25] <coreymon77> genii: thats because they are used to doze, which does a victory dance when something actually works :P
[05:25] <sub[t]rnl> genii➜ lol.. wouldn't it be odd if it did though.. like an echo'd "kay!"
[05:25]  * sub[t]rnl sips coffee
[05:25] <Ryu010> alright so what is my next step after sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[05:26] <Xavier_Z> Ryu010: did you check out the link I sent you?
[05:26] <genii> Ryu010: when you do now:     ifconfig           what does it show? Please use pastebin website for the output
[05:26] <genii> !paste
[05:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:27]  * genii sips his coffee as well
[05:27] <sub[t]rnl> not bad t'all
[05:27] <coreymon77> genii: notice how i said usually
[05:28] <coreymon77> genii: sometimes it not giving any output is a bad thing
[05:28] <kkerwin> Hi. What package contains the file kde4-config?
[05:28] <coreymon77> genii: such as when you type find /home :P
[05:28] <sub[t]rnl> kkerwin➜ kdelibs5
[05:28] <kkerwin> sub[t]rnl: Thank you.
[05:29] <Ryu010> only eth0 shows
[05:29] <genii> coreymon77: Good point
[05:29] <kkerwin> sub[t]rnl: Ah. I see that kdelibs5 is listed as breaking.
[05:29] <coreymon77> Ryu010: yay, isnt eth0 your interface?
[05:29] <genii> Ryu010:    sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[05:30] <Ryu010> alright
[05:31] <Ryu010> wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags; No such device
[05:31] <genii> Ryu010: OK. 1 minute, need to see if wlan is the right one for that card
[05:32] <sub[t]rnl> try eth1 while he's looking
[05:32] <coreymon77> Ryu010: wait a sec
[05:32] <coreymon77> Ryu010: gos is gutsy based
[05:32] <coreymon77> Ryu010: that helps
[05:32] <coreymon77> Ryu010: do you have any internet connection on the computer?
[05:32] <genii> coreymon77: Yes, it does
[05:32] <Ryu010> yeah eth0 works
[05:33] <genii> Found a Gutsy howto for this adapter https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Gutsy
[05:33] <genii> sub[t]rnl: I think yer right, it is ethX type
[05:33] <Ryu010> i have seen that
[05:33] <Ryu010> it got me no where
[05:34] <sub[t]rnl> Ryu010➜ thats whats scary, if that link got you nowhere.. they take you through offline installation and everything.
[05:34] <sub[t]rnl> sounds like its more gos trouble than kubuntu, cause that link is money
[05:35] <Ryu010> yeah
[05:35] <Ryu010> would it be easyer to make work on kubuntu
[05:37] <coreymon77> genii: thats what i always use
[05:37] <genii> Ryu010: I'm pretty sure that site will work if the instructions are exactly followed.
[05:37] <coreymon77> genii: thats what i always use to help people
[05:37] <coreymon77> genii: it would just be easier with kubuntu
[05:38] <genii> coreymon77: Yes, since especially this channel is for kubuntu support ;)
[05:38] <coreymon77> Ryu010: but, i just downloaded the gos virtual appliance for vmware fusion
[05:38] <snarkster> you know there arent any instructions about removing entries in interfaces
[05:38] <coreymon77> Ryu010: so i could prob help now
[05:38] <genii> snarkster: in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[05:38] <snarkster> yup
[05:38] <Ryu010> alright
[05:38] <genii> snarkster: Just comment them out with a #
[05:39] <Ryu010> when you get gos up and running you can get in your terminal by going to run command
[05:39] <Ryu010> type xterm
[05:39] <snarkster> right but there arent any instructions to do that... Ive been pulling my hair out for over a week to get knetwork manager working'
[05:40] <coreymon77> snarkster: knetworkmanager=crap
[05:40] <snarkster> LOL
[05:41] <snarkster> least it works now
[05:41] <coreymon77> snarkster: kwifimanager+iwconfig=use
[05:41] <snarkster> thats all I care about
[05:42] <genii> snarkster: Yes, when interfaces file has an entry then network manager thinks the interface has been manually set up and you won't be able to see any networks, etc
[05:43] <snarkster> ok well thank you guys
[05:43] <aharoon> how to configure azureus for best speed download im on 256 dsl i have router i dont have firewall
[05:43] <coreymon77> aharoon: azureus=slow
[05:44] <coreymon77> aharoon: ktorrent or wined utorrent=use
[05:44] <aharoon> ktorrent is killing me its download at 3 kb/s tell what i can use
[05:44] <coreymon77> aharoon: maybe its just a bad torrent
[05:45] <sub[t]rnl> use this http://infinite-source.de/az/az-calc.html
[05:45] <sub[t]rnl> though, if your not forwarding properly, its not going to make a difference
[05:45] <coreymon77> sub[t]rnl: azureus=slow
[05:45] <sub[t]rnl> never used it
[05:45] <sub[t]rnl> ktorrent is hot
[05:45] <coreymon77> sub[t]rnl: its java based
[05:46] <coreymon77> sub[t]rnl: meaning that it is automatically slow speeds cause bogged down
[05:46] <aharoon> no not bad torrent i try this torrent on windows it download at 20 -25 kb\s
[05:46] <sub[t]rnl> aharoon➜ http://infinite-source.de/az/az-calc.html
[05:47] <Ryu010> i just finished with that link and no luck
[05:48] <coreymon77> Ryu010: i just finished downloading gos for vmware
[05:48] <coreymon77> Ryu010: give me a sec
[05:50] <sub[t]rnl> Ryu010➜ what other channel will you find someone installing your operating system to try and help you out? none! lol
[05:50] <sub[t]rnl> (leave the donations at the door)
[05:51] <Ryu010> yeah i know
[05:52] <Ryu010> if coreymon77 solves this he will be my hero
[05:52] <coreymon77> okay, someone just lied, that was redhat not gos
[05:52] <coreymon77> lets go find gos virtual appliance
[05:55] <coreymon77> Ryu010: here we go
[05:56] <coreymon77> Ryu010: its gonna take a good 10 mins to download, so just wait a while
[05:57] <Ryu010> sure thing
[05:57] <Ryu010> i have about an hour before i am going to bed
[06:02] <coreymon77> Ryu010: another 5 minutes
[06:02] <Ryu010> k
[06:05] <coreymon77> lets just hope i dont fall asleep either! :P
[06:05] <Ryu010> what time there??
[06:06] <aharoon> now with azureus download speed between 6.0-13.0 kb/s anyway to increase it up?? its good now than ktorrent but in windows 20-25 kb\s
[06:07] <coreymon77> Ryu010: 1:10 am
[06:07] <coreymon77> :P
[06:07] <Ryu010> where are you?
[06:08] <coreymon77> sorry, cant say
[06:08] <Ryu010> sure thing
[06:08] <coreymon77> done
[06:09] <coreymon77> now to unzip it
[06:11] <Ryu010> almost got it?
[06:11] <coreymon77> and we are good to go
[06:12] <coreymon77> although im gonna have to install vmware tools
[06:13] <Crashed> man.
[06:14] <Ryu010> wont take long right?
[06:14] <Crashed> It's telling me to run 'apt-get -f install' to fix some dependencies, but when I run that, ca.archive.ubuntu.com doesn't respond.
[06:14] <Crashed> ca.archive.ubuntu.com has been the cause of a lot of problems for me.
[06:14] <coreymon77> wow, i hate to say it, but this is one crappy distro
[06:15] <Ryu010> lol its not that bad
[06:16] <coreymon77> it kinda is
[06:16] <Ryu010> do you have msn or anything
[06:19] <coreymon77> Ryu010: i cant give that ou
[06:19] <coreymon77> t
[06:19] <coreymon77> Ryu010: anyways
[06:19] <coreymon77> Ryu010: im on irc all the time
[06:20] <coreymon77> Ryu010: open up a uxterm
[06:20] <coreymon77> and run sudo restricted-manager
[06:21] <Ryu010> command not found
[06:22] <coreymon77> okay then
[06:22] <coreymon77> sudo apt-get install restricted-manager
[06:22] <Ryu010> could not find package
[06:23] <coreymon77> sufo apt-get update
[06:23] <coreymon77> sudo*
[06:24] <Ryu010> looks like i need net for that one
[06:24] <Ryu010> brb
[06:24] <coreymon77> Ryu010: oh ya
[06:25] <coreymon77> you do
[06:25] <Ryu010> alright now what
[06:26] <coreymon77> did you run sudo apt-get update
[06:26] <c_c1_cicero> hello room
[06:26] <c_c1_cicero> 4th day on kubuntu.
[06:27] <nick__> does anyone remember that screensaver for X that had a bunch of fatal error screens from computers of old
[06:27] <c_c1_cicero> how do i give myself permission to mount a hard drive?
[06:28] <coreymon77> Ryu010: did sudo apt-get update finish running?
[06:28] <coreymon77> c_c1_cicero: sudo?
[06:28] <Ryu010> yeah
[06:28] <sub[t]rnl> c_c1_cicero➜ replace nouser with user in /etc/fstab
[06:28] <c_c1_cicero> :(
[06:29] <coreymon77> Ryu010: now run sudo apt-get install restricted-manager
[06:29] <c_c1_cicero> sub[t]rnl: i am just learning all this. how do i replace nouser?
[06:29] <Ryu010> could not find package
[06:31] <coreymon77> okay try sudo apt-get install kate
[06:32] <Ryu010> i think i broke the install
[06:32] <Tm_T> good morning
[06:32] <Ryu010> i dont have any commands that work
[06:32] <Ryu010> should i reinstall os
[06:32] <Ryu010> then we can go from there?
[06:33] <c_c1_cicero> sub[t]rnl: how do i do that, sub?
[06:33] <sub[t]rnl> sorry, watching a movie
[06:34] <sub[t]rnl> c_c1_cicero➜ alt + f2 and enter 	kdesudo /etc/fstab	  Find the device your wanting users to be able to mount, and make sure it has user instead of nouser.
[06:34] <coreymon77> Ryu010: wait a sec, sudo apt-get install kate doesnt work?
[06:35] <Ryu010> nope
[06:35] <Ryu010> i tested on the toshiba and the commands work there so i am going to reinstall the os
[06:35] <Ryu010> it will take about 15 min
[06:35] <c_c1_cicero> sub[t]rnl: command not found
[06:35] <sub[t]rnl> woops
[06:35] <sub[t]rnl> kdesudo kate /etc/fstab
[06:36] <coreymon77> Ryu010: sorry, i have to go to bed
[06:36] <coreymon77> Ryu010: i have to get up tomorrow
[06:36] <Ryu010> alright
[06:36] <coreymon77> Ryu010: and its 1:35 am here
[06:36] <Ryu010> will you be here tomorrow
[06:36] <coreymon77> Ryu010: be back on irc tomorrow, ill be there once i get home from school
[06:36] <Ryu010> what time
[06:36] <Ryu010> your time
[06:37] <coreymon77> Ryu010: 4:00-4:15
[06:37] <Ryu010> alright i should be on
[06:37] <Ryu010> thats about 2 my time
[06:37] <coreymon77> 4:30 latest
[06:37] <coreymon77> anyways, see you tomorrow
[06:37] <c_c1_cicero> sub[t]rnl:  Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified kate: cannot connect to X server :0
[06:38] <Ryu010> yeah i dont know if i will be on at 4 for sure
[06:38] <c_c1_cicero> by coreymon
[06:38] <c_c1_cicero> *bye
[06:38] <Ryu010> because thats when i would get out of school
[06:38] <Ryu010> so i will talk to you then
[06:38] <coreymon77> bye everyone
[06:38] <sub[t]rnl> see ya c
[06:38] <Tm_T> coreymon77: bye bye
[06:38] <Tm_T> c_c1_cicero: kdesudo ?
[06:39] <sub[t]rnl> c_c1_cicero➜ alternatively, alt+f2 kcontrol -> System administration -> disk & filesystems -> Administrative mode -> click on drive or partition -> Modify
[06:40] <Tm_T> also
[06:40] <Tm_T> !mount
[06:40] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[06:42] <c_c1_cicero> sub[t]rnl:  okay. the settings were skewed. i have the first command going
[06:42] <noaXess> is firefox qt or gtk?.. cause the font i setup in systemsettings/apperance/font won't be used for firefox..
[06:42] <c_c1_cicero> sub[t]rnl: fstab is running
[06:44] <cesar> wenas
[06:48] <c_c1_cicero> sub[t]rnl:  i cant seem to navigate with kate.
[06:48] <sub[t]rnl> go the second route, using the gui.
[06:48] <sub[t]rnl> use system settings as tm_t suggested
[06:50] <c_c1_cicero> i can see them (the hard drives) but i dont know how to get permission to mount and unmount them
[06:50] <sub[t]rnl> click administrative button, then highlight one and click modify
[06:52] <c_c1_cicero> sub[t]rnl: where can the adminstrator button be found?
[06:52] <sub[t]rnl> at the bottom
[06:53] <c_c1_cicero> sub[t]rnl: there is an info bar at the bottom that says i have three items, but no buttons
[06:55] <sub[t]rnl> is the modify button available? at the bottom?
[06:55] <c_c1_cicero> sub[t]rnl: no buttons at the bottom
[06:56] <sub[t]rnl> scroll down? it seems your not displaying all the information on that page..
[06:58] <Netkiller> Hey I need a bit of help
[06:58] <c_c1_cicero> sub[t]rnl: i found an open as root button
[06:58] <Netkiller> I set the resolution on Ubuntu to high for my screen. Is there a awy I can lower it using livecd?
[06:59] <sub[t]rnl> !resolution | Netkiller
[06:59] <ubotu> Netkiller: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:00] <Netkiller> I'd ask that in the Ubuntu chat but they never talk or answer a single one of my questions lol. Been like that for like 3 years now >_>
[07:00] <Netkiller> I did get someone to answer me once and that was after a page of hardcore bitching. >_<
[07:03] <Netkiller> Yo that didn't help at all >_<
[07:06] <c_c1_cicero> sub[t]rnl:  hmmm i must have really goofed. now i cant find the drive at all...
[07:07] <Netkiller> #ubuntu
[07:07] <c_c1_cicero> sub[t]rnl: doh. it looks like i dont have any power to one of the drives...
[07:08] <c_c1_cicero> that would make sense.
[07:08] <c_c1_cicero> sub[t]rnl: bbiab
[07:11] <Netkiller> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55687/
[07:15] <sub[t]rnl> Netkiller➜ what are you trying to do?
[07:16] <Netkiller> lower my resolution so that my screen will work.
[07:16] <sub[t]rnl> what resolution are you after
[07:17] <sub[t]rnl> Netkiller➜ ?
[07:17] <Netkiller> 1280*768
[07:17] <sub[t]rnl> what are you using now? 1400x900?
[07:17] <Netkiller> it's at 1440-900 right now which this screen uses on Vista but for someee reason won't work under ubuntu. >_>
[07:18] <Netkiller> I'm using standard livecd resolution
[07:18] <sub[t]rnl> it does work in ubuntu
[07:18] <Ornedan> Hi. I've got a weird problem with the kvpnc program. For some reason, if I start it via the kmenu or alt+f2, it runs as root instead of my uid
[07:18] <sub[t]rnl> higher resolutions, I showed you the link on how to do it
[07:19] <Netkiller> obviously not cause the screen complains about the input being to large.
[07:19] <sub[t]rnl> Netkiller➜ your using the i810 driver, it tells you step by step how to upgrade to the intel driver, or install 915resolution to get higher resolutions
[07:19] <Netkiller> If I could SEEE what I was doing I would do that >_<
[07:19] <Ornedan> The binary isn't suid, though. And if I start it directly from a terminal, it does run with my uid
[07:20] <Netkiller> But first I need to lower the resolution by editing the xorg.conf which I am asking for help with.
[07:21] <sub[t]rnl> Netkiller➜ line 115 of your xorg.conf 	Virtual 1440 900	 remove that.
[07:21] <Netkiller> thats it?
[07:21] <sub[t]rnl> Netkiller➜ also remove the 800x600 modes
[07:22] <Ornedan> I guess the question is twofold: HTF does it manage to run as root in the first place and how do I make it not do that in a convenient way (a dedicated terminal being an inconvenient way :P)?
[07:22] <Netkiller> then save and restart and Ubuntu will freak out and run the resolution detection and set it to an appropriet reso?
[07:23] <sub[t]rnl> Netkiller➜ you probably don't need to define modelines for your monitor either.  That will cause you more headache if you don't know what your doing
[07:23] <Netkiller> ok so all I do is that save then restart and it'll start to work?
[07:23] <sub[t]rnl> Ornedan➜ yes
[07:25] <Netkiller> alrighty if it works thank you alot. If not I'll brb ^_^
[07:26] <sn00zer> could somebody take a look at my vnc startup file? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55681/ i can't start an x session remotely
[07:27] <sub[t]rnl> Ornedan➜ the program starts via su-to-root, so when you enter your password, it runs as root.  I'm guessing that you are starting it again within the 15 minute interval that kdesudo remembers your password for
[07:29]  * Sbucatone io odio i pignoli!
[07:30] <sub[t]rnl> Ornedan➜ example, do sudo -k, then try to start kvpnc again, it will prompt for your password..
[07:52] <toyo|desk> how do I make it so that in kde I can just right click stuff and delete it with out sending to the trash
[07:54] <toyo|desk> :/
[07:54] <giuseppe> hello
[07:54] <toyo|desk> hi
[07:55] <giuseppe> i have a problem whit the graphic card nvidia
[07:55] <Lynoure> toyo|desk: I added that to my context menu about two months ago, prompty forgot how
[07:55] <giuseppe> can you help me??
[07:55] <giuseppe> please:(
[07:55] <toyo|desk> dont have one
[07:55] <jussi01> !ask | giuseppe
[07:55] <ubotu> giuseppe: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[07:56] <Lynoure> toyo|desk: ah.... Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Behavior -> Check "Show 'Delete' context menu entries which bypass the trashcan"
[07:56] <toyo|desk> Lynoure, hmm yeah I just want to be able to right click delete
[07:56] <toyo|desk> oh
[07:56] <toyo|desk> hmm
[07:56] <toyo|desk> lets see if I can find that
[07:56] <toyo|desk> I have dolphin
[07:57] <Lynoure> toyo|desk: oh, never tried to find it for Dolphin, as I don't much like using Dolphin
[07:57] <toyo|desk> oh
[07:57] <toyo|desk> :/
[07:57] <giuseppe> i go to system setting>>advanced but recsctricted driver tell me that "
[07:57] <giuseppe> The software source for the package
[07:57] <giuseppe> nvidia-glx-new
[07:57] <giuseppe> is not enabled.
[07:58] <giuseppe> :(:(:(
[07:58] <Lynoure> toyo|desk: I cannot see anything similar in Dolphin settings.
[07:58] <toyo|desk> Lynoure, that worked I just did it in konq and it worked
[07:58] <toyo|desk> :P
[07:58] <toyo|desk> erg
[07:58] <toyo|desk> it worked for my desktop
[07:59] <toyo|desk> ugh
[07:59] <toyo|desk> annoying
[07:59] <toyo|desk> anyway I will figure it out tomorrow
[07:59] <toyo|desk> thanks for the tip Lynoure
[07:59] <toyo|desk> :)
[07:59] <Lynoure> toyo|desk: Well, that's good... it did not work in my Dolphin, though.
[07:59] <toyo|desk> I may end up ditching dolphin
[07:59] <toyo|desk> nope
[07:59] <toyo|desk> :(
[08:00] <toyo|desk> anyway I am going to bed its midnight
[08:00] <toyo|desk> c-ya
[08:01] <Lynoure> toyo|desk: good night
[08:03] <bentob0x> there seem to be a massive update today for Kubuntu 7.10, anybody would have a link to the changelog?
[08:05] <gundam_rx78nt1> bentob0x, just don't update kaffeine to 0.85...
[08:05] <jussi01> bentob0x: I havent had one hit here yet
[08:05] <jussi01> oooh, its a jpatrick :D
[08:06] <bentob0x> it seems that the software isn't going onto a new version but it seems that it's ubuntu going from some_kde_software-0ubuntu-2.1 to some_kde_software-0ubuntu-2.2
[08:11] <bentob0x> I just would like to know what's going on exactly basically
[08:16] <sebastian^> good morning folks
[08:19] <ejd> When I select hibernate from the kde logout screen does it run a particular script, e.g. /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh?
[08:22] <gundam_rx78nt1> is there a way to make sensors display the information in degrees F without doing the -f option?  I want my superkaramba widget to display the temps in degrees F...
[08:22] <Lynoure> ejd: normally yes.
[08:30] <eatThisAndDie> guys, anyone with Apache know-how? need to disable TRACE on my server.
[08:31] <deuryt1> j
[08:32] <gundam_rx78nt1> eatThisAndDie: go to www.apacheweek.com/issues/03-01-24
[08:36] <kaminix> Why does Java lockup when I run it as described in this guide? http://wiki.freenetproject.org/FreenetInstallationLinux
[08:37] <eatThisAndDie> thx gundam
[08:38] <gundam_rx78nt1> you are welcome.
[08:39] <eatThisAndDie> well actually i;ve tried that, doesn't work :P
[08:40] <gundam_rx78nt1> what version of apache are you running?
[08:41] <eatThisAndDie> gundam: 2.2.6
[08:41] <eatThisAndDie> mod_rewrite is working perfectly fine, i use it for my application
[08:43] <gundam_rx78nt1> http://www.ducea.com/2007/10/22/apache-tips-disable-the-http-trace-method/
[08:44] <gundam_rx78nt1> eatThisAndDie: try that.
[08:46] <jussi01> Does anyone know where they hide the backgrounds on kubuntu?
[08:46] <jussi01> ie. in which folder?
[08:47] <Lynoure> jussi01: anyone with the default background could look it up quick, must be some such people still around
[08:48] <gundam_rx78nt1> its in /usr/share/wallpapers
[08:49] <jussi01> Lynoure: heh,
[08:49] <jussi01> gundam_rx78nt1: thanks
[08:49] <gundam_rx78nt1> np
[08:49]  * jussi01 headesks
[08:49] <gundam_rx78nt1> I do a lot of image manipulation there.
[08:50] <jussi01> gundam_rx78nt1: nice :)
[08:51] <eatThisAndDie> dudes, how do i get the transparent effect on the KDM login box?
[08:52] <eatThisAndDie> i seem to not have it anymore
[09:06] <noam_> was the latest KDE update supposed to make flash work in konqueror?
[09:06] <noam_> because now only sound works
[09:07] <noam_> :/
[09:09] <noam_> and video doesn't.
[09:10] <noam_> which is certainly an improvement, don't get me wrong :/
[09:13] <noam_> i understand the new flash plugin uses Xembed. does it need special graphics driver support? i'm using an ati one, it might be problematic
[09:19] <funcrush> I added Firefox in my pannel but it doesn't work. How can I run firefox in pannel?
[09:21] <cicero_123> reHello room
[09:21] <cicero_123> what would cause hard drives and cd roms to not mount?
[09:22] <SlimeyPete> cicero_123: are you trying to mount them manually?
[09:23] <cicero_123> using dolphin in root
[09:23] <gundam_rx78nt1> cicero: can you do a pastebin of your /etc/fstab?
[09:23] <cicero_123> k
[09:23] <cicero_123> how do i activate the pastebin?
[09:24] <cicero_123> nvrmnd found it
[09:24] <gundam_rx78nt1> !pastebin
[09:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:27] <cicero_123> i dont seem to have a fstab file in the etc folder... :(
[09:28] <cicero_123> i hope i didnt accidently delete it
[09:29] <SlimeyPete> cicero_123: you sure? Try in a terminal. "ls /etc/ | grep fstab"
[09:29] <gundam_rx78nt1> that may be the problem.
[09:30] <cicero_123> okay, they arent folders they are files... copying them now
[09:33] <cicero_123> sorry that took so long.
[09:33] <cicero_123> there is also a fstab pre-ntfs config file. would you like it too?
[09:41] <nodesert> is there anyone who knows why i cant see the windows in grub boot loader.This is happened after i updated grub i think i have to reinstall it?
[09:44] <gundam_rx78nt1> nodesert: you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to include it in the list.
[09:44] <noam_> i just wanted to say that flash in konqueror works for me now, after i restarted...
[09:45] <gundam_rx78nt1> noam_ : did you just do the new updates?
[09:45] <nodesert> thanks i used sudo grub-install /dev/sda command
[09:45] <noam_> i got the new updates, and after i installed them, only sound worked but video was broken. i restarted the machine and it seems to work now
[09:46] <Sbucatone> who want test the last fuoco converter ?
[09:46] <Sbucatone> *wants
[09:46] <gundam_rx78nt1> what is fuoco?
[09:47] <Sbucatone> gundam_rx78nt1: this is old version http://en.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Fuoco++audio%5Cvideo+converter++and+more+?content=73886
[09:47] <funcrush> I added firefox in my pannel but I can't run firefox click it. How can I fix? I can't run any application with same method
[09:50] <sebbar> hi, since the last updates my laptop has been running very slow, anybody else experiencing this?
[09:51] <cicero_123> gundam_rx78nt1: did you get that pastebin file?
[09:55] <gundam_rx78nt1> did you post the pastebin address?
[09:55] <gundam_rx78nt1> I don't seem to have seen it.
[09:55] <cicero_123> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55697/  i am sorry. :(
[09:57] <{AnInfiniteEmpir> I was wondering the best way to install the kde 4.0.1, the first time i installed it, I also installed all of the programs and then I had duplicates of everything.
[09:59] <gundam_rx78nt1> cicero, did you try to manually mount them?
[09:59] <cicero_123> i tried to use dolphin
[10:00] <cicero_123> they woundnt mount after i dled the ntfs package
[10:00] <cicero_123> gundam_rx78nt1: i guess that is a yes.
[10:00] <gundam_rx78nt1> try to do a manual mount to see if it is working.
[10:01] <cicero_123> gundam_rx78nt1: how is a manual mount done?
[10:01] <blue1> Could someone help with this? http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/3746/56615644aq8.png drives show in disk & filesystem but nowhere else, so I can't transfer from secondary -> primary
[10:01] <gundam_rx78nt1> sudo mount /media/cdrom0 (make sure you have a cd in it).
[10:02] <sebbar> hmm since everything is so painfully slow I'll try to install fluxbox, what's the best way to do this? just apt-get fluxbox?
[10:03] <blue1> sudo apt-get install fluxbox I'd assume
[10:05] <cicero_123> gundam_rx78nt1: k there is a cd-rom icon now on my desktop. thanx. how do i mount the hard drive?
[10:06] <gundam_rx78nt1> click on the icon. that should mount it.
[10:07] <sebbar> blue1: sure ok tnx
[10:10]  * Sbucatone  prrrr
[10:12] <cicero_123> gundam_rx78nt1:  the error reads mount point does not exist...
[10:16] <cicero_123> gundam_rx78nt1:  i am really thinking that i should reformat the disk and reload. the system crashed when i first installed it; and some of the system didnt work right.
[10:17] <apparle>  Hwllo
[10:17] <apparle>  Hello
[10:17] <MrJigsaw> Which program do you guys use to pack out rar archives +
[10:17] <eatThisAndDie> unrar
[10:17] <kaminix> How do I get Wine to display Japanese characters?
[10:18] <apparle> MrJigsaw: Why do you want to pack archives as RAR ??
[10:18] <MrJigsaw> ... :)
[10:18] <apparle> kaminix: I am not sure but mostly by installing japanese fonts
[10:18] <kaminix> How do I install those to Wine?
[10:19] <MrJigsaw> eatThisAndDie, how do i use unrar ? :)
[10:19] <apparle> MrJigsaw: Just install it
[10:23] <alomelo> i have a question with ltsp
[10:23] <alomelo> anybody answer?
[10:23] <apparle> alomelo: what is ltsp
[10:23] <cicero_123> gundam_rx78nt1: i think i see a problem... the hard disk that i am gring to mount is listed as having a <mount point> instead of having the mount point as /media/DiskName. could that be the problem?
[10:24] <jussi01> !ask | apparle
[10:24] <ubotu> apparle: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[10:24] <jussi01> gah
[10:24] <jussi01> sorry apparle
[10:24] <alomelo> linux terminal server project
[10:24] <alomelo> I have installed LTSP on my Kubuntu 7.10
[10:24] <alomelo> [10:08] <alomelo> now I use some machines to connect to server with etherbooting
[10:24] <alomelo> [10:08] <alomelo> with some machines I connect perfectly with no problems
[10:24] <alomelo> [10:09] <alomelo> but 2 of the machines became idle
[10:24] <alomelo> [10:09] <alomelo> let me try to explain
[10:24] <alomelo> [10:09] <alomelo> they start to download the boot image from server
[10:25] <alomelo> [10:10] <vagrantc> what version of etherboot are the working and non-working ones using?
[10:25] <alomelo> [10:10] <alomelo> everything goes fine till the message "Starting ltsp client"
[10:25] <alomelo> [10:10] <alomelo> After this message it says
[10:25] <alomelo> [10:10] <alomelo> alsa-utils.c: device doesnt support 44100Hz changed to 44099Hz [OK]
[10:25] <alomelo> [10:10] <alomelo> and it hangs
[10:25] <alomelo> [10:11] <alomelo> same thing happens for the other machine
[10:25] <alomelo> sorry above i pasted the question which i asked before at #ltsp channel
[10:25] <jussi01> !paste | alomelo
[10:25] <ubotu> alomelo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:25] <alomelo> excuse me
[10:27] <gladier> alomelo: sounds like an alsa prob
[10:27] <alomelo> could you have a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55701/
[10:27] <MrJigsaw> !amarok-mysql
[10:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amarok-mysql - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:27] <MrJigsaw> Chould anyone give me the link to that ? :)
[10:28] <jussi01> MrJigsaw: I didnt know it existed.
i though the same but it displays [OK]
[10:28] <alomelo> so it must be solved the alsa problem
[10:28] <alomelo> I think its a problem with X configuration
[10:28] <MrJigsaw> Well i got the link yesterday jussi01, just cant seem to find it right now :)
[10:29] <apparle> MrJigsaw: What is amarok-mysql
[10:30] <MrJigsaw> ... I just wanted to find the link how to make amarok use mysql..
[10:30] <MrJigsaw> Dident know what to write ;)
[10:30] <apparle> MrJigsaw: but what is amarok-mysql
[10:30] <MrJigsaw> eeh ?
[10:32] <gladier> alomelo: i assume you have seen http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/TroubleShooting
[10:32] <gundam_rx78nt1> yes, that is a rpblme.  sory for not responding.
[10:32] <alomelo> yes gladier
[10:32] <alomelo> but couldnt find my case
[10:33] <gladier> http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/TroubleShooting#Terminal_freezes_consistently_in
[10:33] <eatThisAndDie> MrJigsaw: I;m pretty sure its unrar e filename.rar but you wanna check that out first
[10:33] <apparle> Anybody here uses apt-zip
[10:33] <alomelo> gladier isnt this related with after opening x session
[10:34] <alomelo> i cant open an x session yet
[10:35] <alomelo> but i guess i should have a  look at ViideoCards
[10:35] <alomelo> thanks gladier
[10:35] <alomelo> I will browse those pages and come back if i cant resolve
[10:35] <cicero_123> gundam_rx78nt1: np. do you know how to fix it so that it is mounted correctly?
[10:37] <apparle> I want some help about http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34113 I don't know anyone who has kubuntu installed near me. Can anyone please compress and send me the folder /var/lib/apt/lists . I need a person with Kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon 7.10 i386 (32bit). Can anyone do it for me
[10:38] <apparle> Please run "apt-get update" before sending the file
[10:42] <alomelo> gladier no chance
[10:43] <alomelo> i tried video card suggestions but no resolution
[10:46] <cicero_123> bbl it is way past my bedtime. thanx all. once the mounting of the disk problem is solved i will be 100% linux.
[10:47] <apparle> At least tell me the size of folder /var/lib/apt/lists
[10:48] <MrJigsaw> How do i make noacip and acpi=off stay in the boot loader ?
[10:48] <bascule> !grub
[10:48] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:48] <MrJigsaw> i have to write it in everytime i boot op kubuntu ;/
[10:49] <bascule> !boot
[10:49] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[10:49] <bascule> thats the one :)
[10:49] <bascule> MrJigsaw: basically add it to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:50] <apparle> someone please help me with ap lists
[10:50] <MrJigsaw> if i wanted to open that using konsole, what would i need to write, bascule? :)
[10:50] <SlimeyPete> apparle: give me a moment
[10:50] <bascule> MrJigsaw: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:51] <bascule> it should be obvious where you put the additions
[10:51] <bascule> but take your time
[10:51] <SlimeyPete> apparle: http://www.scruffbag.net/lists.tar.gz
[10:52] <SlimeyPete> that is from kubuntu gutsy
[10:52] <apparle> SlimeyPete: 32 bit?? all repositories enabled??
[10:52] <SlimeyPete> yes, and yes.
[10:53] <SlimeyPete> including the kde4 ones
[10:53] <MrJigsaw> SO whats linux' answer to notepad? ;>
[10:53] <SlimeyPete> MrJigsaw: Nano in terminal or Kate/Gedit I guess :)
[10:53] <bascule> not having something so useless?
[10:54] <bascule> SlimeyPete: kate .... how *dare* you!!! :P
[10:54] <apparle> SlimeyPete: Will the link work if I download it after 2-3 days?? I have a very slow connection right now. I don't have kde4. Will it create problems?
[10:54] <SlimeyPete> apparle: it should work, yes. I don't think you not having kde4 will cause problems.
[10:54] <apparle> MrJigsaw: kdesu kate /boot/frub/menu.lst
[10:55] <MrJigsaw> cool
[10:55] <SlimeyPete> apparle: I will leave it up there for a week or so.
[10:55] <apparle> SlimeyPete: Ok thanks. Still I will try to do it right now. Don't remove it. I will tell you as soon as I download it
[10:56] <SlimeyPete> apparle: ok
[10:57] <ubuntu__> im tryin to install kubuntu its stuck on scanning mirrors
[10:57] <apparle> ubuntu__: but why should it scan mirrors while installing kubuntu
[10:57] <SlimeyPete> ubuntu__: it should time out after a while. Maybe it can't find your internet connection, or the mirror is down.
[10:57] <ubuntu__> duno its on 82%
[10:58] <ubuntu__> stuck
[10:58] <apparle> ubuntu__: my suggestion> Disconnect the connection while install. later run update
[10:59] <ubuntu__> ok thx
[10:59] <thommy> ciao
[11:00] <thommy> !list
[11:00] <thommy> :-)
[11:00] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:01] <apparle> thommy what are you trying to do??  :)
[11:04] <TuB^> I've just installed Kubuntu on my new laptop, but am having difficulty getting sound to work. The laptop in question is an Asus F3Sr-AP725C - but the only information I can find on its soundcard is that it's an "Integrated Intel High Definition Audio compliant audio chip". Can anyone help?
[11:05] <giuseppe> hello
[11:07] <giuseppe> can you help me?when i can to install a recstricted drivers of graphic card tell me :
[11:07] <giuseppe> The software source for the package
[11:07] <giuseppe> nvidia-glx-new
[11:07] <giuseppe> is not enabled.
[11:08] <apparle> giuseppe: you have installed the package??
[11:08] <giuseppe> no...
[11:08] <apparle> giuseppe: then install it
[11:09] <giuseppe> apparle: what do i??
[11:09] <apparle> giuseppe: you have internet at your place. If yes then goto restricted-drivers-manager and enable the card
[11:13] <MrJigsaw> How do i exit a .lst docoment thingy in konsole ? ;/
[11:13] <apparle> MrJigsaw: Just close the window of kate
[11:14] <MrJigsaw> Well i openned it in konsole
[11:14] <viktor> hi i just installed kubuntu i am new user from windows and not to familr with installing things on linux
[11:14] <MrJigsaw> it says '^X' to exit, but how do i do that? ;S
[11:15] <viktor> just wondering with the adept manager how do i install like my graphics card driver i use a 8500gt nvidia card
[11:15] <apparle> viktor: If you have a good network connection it is pretty easy
[11:15] <apparle> MrJigsaw: what cammand did you use to open the file
[11:15] <viktor> my network connection is pretty strong
[11:16] <jussi01> !ati | viktor
[11:16] <ubotu> viktor: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:16] <apparle> viktor: goto to restricted-drivers manager and enable the driver
[11:16] <MrJigsaw> nano /boot/grub/menu.lst <- i used that
[11:17] <apparle> MrJigsaw: try pressing Ctrl+X. I never use nano
[11:17] <MrJigsaw> It worked, thanks :)
[11:17] <apparle> MrJigsaw:  :)
[11:22] <viktor> hi i tried the resrticted driver thing u said and my hole pc froze
[11:23] <apparle> viktor: what do you mean froze. when did your PC freez after you clicked enable driver? or anywhere else
[11:24] <viktor> it told me to put the kubuntu cd back in then it froze
[11:24] <jussi01> viktor: how long for?
[11:24] <apparle> SlimeyPete: I have downloaded the package . You may remove it
[11:24] <viktor> till i hit reset
[11:24] <viktor> also i got no firefox explorer
[11:25] <apparle> bye. getting late
[11:26] <viktor> and when i search online it like lags as if its tryin to find my internet connection or something
[11:28] <MrJigsaw> uhm.. i want some cookies and cofee :>
[11:28] <viktor> when installing kubuntu the installation froze on scannin the mirror so i disconnected my internet and it finished installing how do i run the update now because my sound and lots of other things are not wokring
[11:30] <sean> how do I install the xen virtual machine server on kubuntu
[11:30] <blekos> could u tell me how i can install xubuntu over kubuntu?
[11:30] <blekos> i'm running kubuntu on a vmware, u think xubuntu will be faster?
[11:30] <blekos> thnx
[11:33] <viktor> when installing kubuntu the installation froze on scannin the mirror so i disconnected my internet and it finished installing how do i run the update now because my sound and lots of other things are not wokring
[11:35] <wiki> Does anybody had experince regarding remastering
[11:35] <wiki> ?
[11:36] <wiki> Hi
[11:36] <wiki> is there anybody?
[11:36] <zarlino> hi wiki
[11:37] <zarlino> remastering what?
[11:37] <wiki> remastering ubuntu
[11:37] <julien_> essai
[11:37] <zarlino> you mean burning the ubuntu iso?
[11:37] <julien_> hello word
[11:37] <wiki> no cusomization
[11:38] <zarlino> ah i see
[11:38] <zarlino> can't help sorry :)
[11:38] <Kubuntu_> hi i need help please
[11:38] <wiki>  I have customized live cd from kubuntu according to documentation,
[11:38] <jussi01> wiki: have you seen the wiki entry about it?
[11:38] <wiki> yes
[11:38] <jussi01> !ask | Kubuntu_
[11:38] <ubotu> Kubuntu_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[11:38] <wiki> I done according to that
[11:38] <wiki>  but my remastered cd asks for username and password while first boot
[11:39] <wiki> so how to do that setting?
[11:39] <Kubuntu_> i disconnect internet as the installation was scanning the mirror now no drivers are wokring no grahpics sound nothing
[11:40] <Kubuntu_> can someone plz tell me how to run an update or something
[11:40] <zarlino> Kubuntu_: why don't you just reinstall?
[11:40] <Kubuntu_> but it will freeze when it gets to scannin the mirror again no point
[11:41] <zarlino> Kubuntu_: try sudo apt-get update
[11:42] <wiki> Kubuntu_: I think you have to change settings in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:42] <Kubuntu_> to what
[11:42] <wiki> according to available resources
[11:42] <wiki> change paths
[11:42] <Kubuntu_> i dont understand
[11:42] <Kubuntu_> sorir
[11:43] <wiki> can you tell me exact error
[11:43] <wiki> ?
[11:45] <wiki> ....
[11:45] <ere4si> Kubuntu_, sounds like it was writing stuff to the hard disk when you pulled the cable and things got wrecked - reinstall but have the cable out before you start
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[12:10] <arcticpenguin380> will a p2 450MHz and 256MB ram run kubuntu well
[12:11] <ubuntu_> hi i am installing as we speak
[12:12] <jussi01> arcticpenguin380: it will run...
[12:12] <ubuntu_> and my installation has stopped at 82% and says scaning the mirror
[12:12] <jussi01> arcticpenguin380: well is another question...
[12:12] <ubuntu_> is it ment to do dat
[12:12] <jussi01> ubuntu_: just give it a few mins
[12:12] <ubuntu_> if it does not proceed what shall i do its been like that few mins already
[12:15] <jussi01> ubuntu_: just wait - if its not done in about 15 then come back, sometimes it takes a wile :(
[12:15] <ubuntu_> ok
[12:20] <ubuntu_> it is still stuck on 82%
[12:21] <ubuntu_> what does scanning the security updates repository mean
[12:22] <lpetras> It's looking for security update from the network repos
[12:22] <ubuntu_> which means is it proceeding from scannin mirror
[12:23] <lpetras> It takes a will :-(
[12:23] <lpetras> while
[12:28] <rodolfo> canal en español?
[12:29] <jussi01> !es | rodolfo
[12:29] <ubotu> rodolfo: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[12:35] <MrJigsaw> How can i see how much CPU and memory kubuntu uses ? :-)
[12:37] <Whitman> top
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> htop is nice also.
[12:37] <MrJigsaw> But like overall? Not what each zpp uses :)
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> looks purtier.
[12:37] <MrJigsaw> app*
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> the free command shows a lot of info
[12:38] <SlimeyPete> MrJigsaw: Top shows overall stats at the top of the screen.
[12:38] <MrJigsaw> Isent there a program with a gui for it?  :D
[12:39] <SlimeyPete> MrJigsaw: try KSysGuard
[12:39] <SlimeyPete> it's in the System menu I think
[12:39] <SlimeyPete> it shows graphs.
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> therss all kinds of system monitors out. Depends on what you want.
[12:39] <c1|freaky> htop is really nice
[12:39] <c1|freaky> are there any other system console tools?
[12:39] <c1|freaky> like that?
[12:40] <c1|freaky> for system info
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> I got a CPU/Mem gague thing for my G15 lcd on my keyboard. :)
[12:40] <MrJigsaw> G15 sucks ;P
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> Then theres all these windowmaker dock apps that can show things. or conky, or gkrellm, or others
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> MrJigsaw,  Go back to your Dorvak! :)
[12:40] <DareDevill> i want to setup an ircd. i alread have installed and done things. what protection will i need for it? ddos?
[12:41] <MrJigsaw> Dorvak? ;S
[12:41] <MrJigsaw> Firewall  guess DareDevill?
[12:41] <c1|freaky> DareDevill: on irc servers u usually only run proxy scanner ... the rest is usually done by firewalls and such
[12:41] <MrJigsaw> i*
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> DareDevill,  I imagine some of the basic firewalling guides will show you the fundamental things to do.  But i imagine the bigest security hole will be the ircd deamon itself.
[12:42] <c1|freaky> hardware/software
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> block scans and so forth.
[12:42] <DareDevill> MrJigsaw c1|freaky Dr_Willis sure. firewalling is first assumption. but what about ddos?
[12:42] <Dr_Willis>  what about it...
[12:42] <MrJigsaw> Mem:   3632400k total,  3410972k used,   221428k free - How much is that in Mb? :S
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> if you got 100000000000 machines all trying to connect to your irc server at the same time.. well...
[12:43] <DareDevill> how to prevent ddos
[12:43] <MrJigsaw> Firewall ;>
[12:43] <DareDevill> no. firewalls dont prevent it
[12:43] <MrJigsaw> okay
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> if there was a 100% fool proof way to do that.. well...  I imagine that the various sites you hear about getting DDOS'd wouldent be getting  ddos'ed :)
[12:44] <MrJigsaw> Uhm.. dos that i pasted before meens kubuntu is useng 3400Mb of my 4Gb rams? ;|
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> MrJigsaw,  Linux grabs about all the ram it can  for disk cache and so forth.
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> see how much swap its using. - proberly none :)
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> compare that to a windows machine.
[12:45] <MrJigsaw> I dont use the swap thingy
[12:45] <Dr_Willis>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> Mem:       3114988    2036524    1078464
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> i got 3 gb ram. and it seems 1 gb is free - approx.
[12:45] <kiss_kill> Mem:   1034112k total,   569724k used,   464388k free,    17516k buffers
[12:45] <parkin_> windows vista?
[12:45] <MrJigsaw> 10Gb ram kiss_kill? ;|
[12:45] <kiss_kill> 1G
[12:46] <MrJigsaw> Dosent kubuntu 32Bit support 4Gb Memory ?
[12:46] <kiss_kill> 1G+256M  haha
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> I think that OVER 4gb  ( in some cases) needs 64bit.
[12:46] <kiss_kill> i use kubuntu
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> but in some cases - you may not get the full use of 4gb exactly - with 32bit.
[12:47] <MrJigsaw> ALl right..
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> I read up on it once.. a lot depends on the specific mb/chipset/other things.
[12:47] <MrJigsaw> Ive got 4Gb, but only shows 3.6Gb ;(
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> It got into a nasty thread on a forum i found.
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> MrJigsaw,  that sounds like the issue i was reading in the thread.
[12:47] <MrJigsaw> Okay
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> memory fro the video card, and otehr things have to get mapped somewhere also I think was the jist of it.
[12:47] <MrJigsaw> Well 400Mb mem isent worth crying over ;P
[12:48] <MrJigsaw> Which program du you guys use instead of photoshop ?? gimp ?
[12:48] <SlimeyPete> if I lost 400MB of RAM I'd only have 112 left
[12:48] <SlimeyPete> and then I'd cry
[12:49] <MrJigsaw> Well..
[12:49] <MrJigsaw> How much have you got ?
[12:49] <SlimeyPete> 512
[12:49] <SlimeyPete> in this laptop
[12:49] <viktor> my pc is doing a distribution upgrade and has paused on installing upgrades
[12:49] <MrJigsaw> Well no wonder you would cry ;)
[12:50] <SlimeyPete> Kubuntu would cry. In fact, Kubuntu would probably fail to start.
[12:50] <MrJigsaw> in htop it seems that its using 508/3547 :-)
[12:50] <SlimeyPete> it has enough trouble booting in 256MB
[12:51] <kaminix> Where do I find the .desktop files?
[12:52] <MrJigsaw> Damn its nizzle.. i dident think my wireless keyboard would work in linux, but it does and also the media files..
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> bluetooth wireless?
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> or just a normal wireless. :)
[12:52] <MrJigsaw> normal wireless i think
[12:52] <MrJigsaw> its Logitech MX3200 :)
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> and this is spurising because? :)
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> they are normally designed where they dont need any drivers.
[12:53] <MrJigsaw> uhm.. im using wine to run utorrent ( hope its okay to ask questions about wine using this app, its not directly illegal though ), but when i try opening utorrent it just show whats behind it.. is utorrent fucked then ?
[12:53] <MrJigsaw> Dr_Willis: dno..
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> MrJigsaw,  you may want to try some of the older versions of utorrent.
[12:54] <MrJigsaw> 1.6.1 im using, its pretty old :/
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> I recall some issues with utorrent and wine. I perfer ktorrent
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> Try a newer one then. :)
[12:54] <parkin_> i like deluge
[12:54] <MrJigsaw> It worked great all night..
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> like it never refreshing its window right after you minimized it..\
[12:54] <parkin_> !deluge
[12:54] <ubotu> deluge is a new Bittorrent client, created using Python and GTK+, intended to bring a native, full-featured client to !GTK environments such as GNOME and Xfce - See http://deluge-torrent.org/ for more information or http://download.deluge-torrent.org/stable/ubuntu/feisty/ for downloading.
[12:55] <noam_> what wine are you using?
[12:55] <MrJigsaw> uhm dunno.. i just wrote apt-get install wine ;P
[12:55] <noam_> wine progresses greatly between versions. you can try using the wine ubuntu repository which installs the latest wine and updates itself every two weeks
[12:56] <noam_> but really, for bittorrent there's no reason to use wine. ktorrent and azureus do their job...
[12:56] <MrJigsaw> I dont like any of those clients..
[12:56] <MrJigsaw> parkin_: is deluge nice ?
[12:58] <noam_> http://winehq.org/site/download-deb
[12:58] <noam_> and it's still a mistake. running stuff in wine is prone to errors, if your only problem with ktorrent/azureus is that you don't like/aren't used to them, get used to them because it'll save you headaches
[12:59] <MrJigsaw> Its not the only problem :-)
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> Ktorrent has all the features i need. :) what do ya really need.. ya start it up.. let it run for a few days.. get your.. err.. Linux isos downloaded.. there ya go.
[12:59] <MrJigsaw> Theyre banned at some of my sites...
[13:03] <parkin_> MrJigsaw: deluge works nice for me,^
[13:03] <MrJigsaw> Okay, ill check it out :-)
[13:04] <viktor> how do i install compiz fusion
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> !compiz | viktor
[13:06] <ubotu> viktor: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[13:06] <ubuntu> i have a little problem ... im trying to install kubuntu on virtualbox - virtual pc, but when formating the virtual disk it says theres an error when formating the swap space
[13:06] <ubuntu> can any1 help?
[13:06] <usiRev> :)
[13:07] <ubuntu> ups ..:)
[13:08] <usiRev> well ?
[13:08] <tom__> Sigh. Still having sound problems. I've installed the drivers for my card, and it's showing up, but even with the speakers on maximum volume, I can only hear sound from the speakers very faintly. Any suggestions?
[13:08] <Greenery> how do I combine split files into one file for rar?
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> You did partition the drive and make a / and a swap?
[13:08] <usiRev> yup .. i tried first to create /, home and swap
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> Greenery,  with multi part rars' ive just used the unrar command and told it the name of the first file. No need to join them
[13:08] <usiRev> but then i only skipped home and  created root (/) and swap
[13:09] <usiRev> still the same problem
[13:09] <Greenery> okay thanks
[13:09] <viktor> ive just tryed to install my nvidia from restricted drivers
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> usiRev,  could just let the installer  partition the virtual disk.
[13:10] <viktor> and get an error wont allow me to enable
[13:10] <usiRev> so use the "automatic partitioning?
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> usiRev,  may as well.  You aint gaining a lot by having a seperate /home on a virtual disk.
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> I do tend to use vmware more then virtualbox  :) so i may wrong. but i dont see much benifit in it.
[13:11] <usiRev> Dr_Willis: i tried to have separate /home, but then left that idea, but still the installer has problems to create swap space
[13:12] <usiRev> ill try to leave all to installer, no manual partitioning .. will see what happens ..:)
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> i dont recall ever installing ubuntu in virtualbox. I tend to just test live cds with the things
[13:13] <usiRev> well.. im running this under winXP ..:)
[13:13] <usiRev> no restarts needed ..:D
[13:13] <viktor> i cant install my nvidia card drivers plz help
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> viktor,  you may want to check the ubuntu forums for your exact nvidia card.  the restricted-manager tool has always worked for me.
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> But i hear some specific nividia cards can cause issues
[13:14] <viktor> 8500gt it never had a problem when i used kubuntu in the past
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> so the stuff was working and suddendly stopped? or did you reinstall?
[13:16] <MrJigsaw> What program do you guys use instead of photoshop ? :-)
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> I use gimp for most all my image needs.
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> and making icons. :)
[13:16] <usiRev> Dr_Willis: not even the automatic partitioner can help ... still problem with creating swap
[13:18] <usiRev> but the live cd is booted on virtualbox ..
[13:20] <usiRev> mmkay ... cya
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> I would say try out the free vmware
[13:21]  * Dr_Willis wonders if usirev did create a virtual disk for virtualbox to use...
[13:22] <aharoon> i want to use my fonts for xmms because it is not show arabic words where can put these fonta to see them in xmms?
[13:25] <ThunderX> Hello. I was wondering can I install Synaptic and totally remove adept?
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> aharoon,  xmms is a very old program. it may not have the ability to use special fonts like that.   (i could be wrong, check the xmms settings, and command line options if you want)  You may want to try a more mondern player like bmpx, or the xmms2 (not tried that in ages)
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> ThunderX,  installing synaptic is trivial. No need to remove adept
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> I use synaptic all the time. I perfer it to adept
[13:27] <ThunderX> yes, but can i remove it?
[13:27] <aharoon> ok what is program like xmms can i use ? i like something looks like winamp in windows
[13:27] <MrJigsaw> Amarok is totally wubish
[13:28] <aharoon> amarok not like winamp
[13:28] <MrJigsaw> Sure it aint, its better ;)
[13:28] <MrJigsaw> http://peecee.dk/upload/view/97209/full <- This means that im using 510Mb memory, right?
[13:28] <zarlino> amarok does have a winamp-like windows
[13:29] <aharoon> really i have amarok but its look too big i dont like this
[13:29] <Whitman> aharoon, try bmpx
[13:29] <aharoon> ok i'll try it thanks
[13:30] <zarlino> aharoon: in amarok go to settings->show player window
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> or check out bmpx
[13:30] <aharoon> thanks
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> am i the only one that starts up their media player playing tunes.. then just minimizes it out of th way? :)
[13:31] <zarlino> aharoon: the player window becomes the main window
[13:32] <aharoon> ok i get it
[13:32] <zarlino> aharoon: and the classic amarok view becomes the playlist
[13:32] <BlueRaid> hi I've got some trubel with my cups printserver
[13:32] <zarlino> aharoon: ok :)
[13:32] <Tm_T> Dr_Willis: I leave Amarok sitting in its own desktop ;(
[13:32] <BlueRaid> after 5minits i can't print somethink via network
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> mpg123 -z /tunes/ :)
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> I thinkits -z for random play.. i forget now.
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> well Night all.
[13:42] <Plum_Plum> Salut
[13:43] <tzanger> morning
[13:43] <tzanger> looks like kubuntu updated all the kde packages
[13:43] <Plum_Plum> morning
[13:43] <Plum_Plum> I see
[13:43] <hanak> anyone can help me
[13:43] <hanak> i try to install kde4
[13:43] <Tm_T> !kde4 | hanak
[13:43] <hanak> but everytime he need a other lib
[13:43] <ubotu> hanak: KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[13:44] <hanak> where i can gind a good server for in my sources.list
[13:45] <SlimeyPete> hanak: look at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php
[13:47] <hanak> SlimeyPete: i did that but somehow when i apt-get install kde4-core he ask all the time for libs
[13:50] <SlimeyPete> hanak: did you do apt-get update?
[13:50] <hanak> SlimeyPete: yup
[13:50] <SlimeyPete> Oh. Odd. You run Gutsy?
[13:50] <hanak> SlimeyPete: sorry whats gutsy?
[13:50] <SlimeyPete> Ubuntu 7.04
[13:51] <SlimeyPete> the latest Kubuntu/Ubuntu
[13:51] <SlimeyPete> !gutsy
[13:51] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[13:51] <SlimeyPete> erm, 7.10 even
[13:51] <SlimeyPete> <- in a timewarp ;)
[13:51] <hanak> kubuntu 7.10
[13:52] <SlimeyPete> what libs does it ask for?
[13:53] <hanak> kdepimlibs5
[13:53] <hanak> kdelibs5
[13:53] <hanak> kdebase-runtime
[13:53] <hanak> kdebase-workspace
[13:53] <hanak> kdebase-kde4
[13:53] <hanak> thats it SlimeyPete
[13:54] <SlimeyPete> and it can't install those?
[13:54] <SlimeyPete> when did you run apt-get update? Today?
[13:54] <hanak> SlimeyPete: yeah i did it
[13:54] <hanak> and when i try to install them he ask me others then
[13:54] <hanak> and so on
[13:55] <SlimeyPete> hrm, I don't know then, sorry. It shouldn't do that. Maybe you should join #kubuntu-kde4 and ask if there are problems with the packages at the moment.
[13:55] <hanak> SlimeyPete: i gues a good server will do
[13:57] <Iggy_Blues> hi guys
[13:58] <hanak> before in ubuntu there whas a good tool in shell command base-config i gues
[13:58] <Iggy_Blues> I need an help on kubuntu 7.10 and GIMP, can I ask?
[13:58] <hanak> you could add great servers there
[13:58] <hanak> does ubuntu have that
[13:58] <sn00zer> !ask | Iggy_Blues
[13:58] <ubotu> Iggy_Blues: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[13:59] <Iggy_Blues> GIMP does not come out in Italian (std lang for kubuntu)
[13:59] <Iggy_Blues> I tried LANG=it gimp command....
[13:59] <Iggy_Blues> and this is the outcome:
[14:00] <Iggy_Blues> (gimp:6914): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
[14:00] <Iggy_Blues>         Using the fallback 'C' locale.
[14:00] <Iggy_Blues> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[14:00] <Iggy_Blues> Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
[14:00] <Iggy_Blues> cannot open display
[14:00] <Tm_T> Iggy_Blues: do you have "language-support-it" installed?
[14:00] <Iggy_Blues> sure I have
[14:00] <Tm_T> !pastebin | Iggy_Blues
[14:00] <ubotu> Iggy_Blues: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[14:00] <Tm_T> Iggy_Blues: also related packages for gtk installed?
[14:00] <Iggy_Blues> humm...
[14:00] <Iggy_Blues> which is this?
[14:01] <Tm_T> dunno
[14:01] <Iggy_Blues> gtk is installed, infact there is a GTK warning...
[14:01] <hethi> hmm, is LANG=it valid? What does "locale -a" say?
[14:02] <Iggy_Blues> yes it is intalled, locale -a lists italian among languages installed
[14:02]  * psi_ loves kubuntu
[14:03] <psi_> it even supports 3d on his crappy s3 twister gfx card
[14:04] <Iggy_Blues> the GTK warning says that locale is not supported by C library... but I do not know how to solve the problem
[14:05] <Iggy_Blues> also Inkscape does not come out in Italian, it seems a common problem to all GTK applications
[14:06] <Pendeta> I'm presently using Windows XP but would like to install kubuntu so I can dual boot either xp or kubuntu. What concerns me is that I'm using  NVIDIA RAID 0+1 on 4 hard drives. Also, I have an ATI Radeon X1950 GT graphics card driving two monitors. I have an AMD 64 x 2 5200 cpu. Does kubuntu support this hardware?
[14:06] <Tm_T> Pendeta: should, try with liveCD first
[14:07] <asmith42> I installed 7.10 and immediately did updates. There was an error at some point (I wasn't babysitting the computer) regarding another installer running- kind of odd since the updater opened and downloaded just fine. Now I can't install anything because it thinks an installer is already open. Reboot did not resolve this problem and I cannot find the problem process. Any ideas?
[14:07] <MrJigsaw> Two monitors and the CPU yes :>
[14:07] <MrJigsaw> Dont know about the rest
[14:08] <zarlino> Iggy_Blues: i'm italian too and just stick to english
[14:09] <Iggy_Blues> zarlino: I know it is not a problem, I just want to know if it is a bug or not...
[14:09] <zarlino> Iggy_Blues: ok
[14:10] <zarlino> Iggy_Blues: btw inkscape rocks!
[14:10] <Iggy_Blues> ;-)
[14:11] <Pendeta> Tm_T, would the LiveCD show if the RAID configuration would work?
[14:11] <MrJigsaw> Uhm.. what FTP CLient do you guys recomend me to use? I need one with SSL support and i like a nice GUI Aswell :)
[14:14] <tmalloy> any recommendations on a graphical id3 tag editor?
[14:16] <Pici> tmalloy: easytag perhaps
[14:16] <llutz_> kid3 ftw
[14:18] <BluesKaj> Howdy All  : )
[14:19] <genii> BluesKaj: Heya :)
[14:19] <seezer> MrJigsaw: tried kftpgrabber?
[14:19] <MrJigsaw> Nope..
[14:19] <seezer> not sure about ssl support but i'd guess it has..
[14:19] <MrJigsaw> Ill give it a try, thanks,
[14:20] <Samus2k> hello anyone have tried the kubuntu hardy alpha 4 ?
[14:20] <SlimeyPete> !hardy
[14:20] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[14:20] <Tm_T> Pendeta: well atleast if it can read them
[14:21] <SlimeyPete> if you ask in #ubuntu+1 you are more likely to get a response, Samus2k :)
[14:21] <BluesKaj> Hi genii :)
[14:21] <BluesKaj> a lil cool this morn
[14:21] <BluesKaj> brb my lag is almost 2mins
[14:21] <Samus2k> sorry ...
[14:21] <SlimeyPete> no problem :)
[14:21] <Samus2k> thanks for the tip
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[14:21] <SlimeyPete> mmmm, parsnips
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> tasty tasty
[14:23] <n3x^> hey, i downloaded a fresh install cd last night, installed, ran the updated and encountered problems during update, now its killed it :[
[14:23] <n3x^> whats wrong with adept?
[14:23] <Pici> n3x^: Are you getting an error?
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> stuckadept
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> !stuckadept
[14:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stuckadept - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:24] <n3x^> yeh, at like 6% it failed to update
[14:24] <n3x^> i tried updating earier on an install i already had
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> n3x^, if you run sudo apt-getdistupgrade what does it say?
[14:24] <n3x^> new distro available
[14:24] <MrJigsaw> uhm..
[14:25] <n3x^> but wouldnt let me actually update, it freezes
[14:25] <SlimeyPete> lots of people seem to be reporting adept update problems during install today/yesterday
[14:25] <tomaz__> people, i'm trying to build Qt4 here, and if i run any program based on it, i got a 'terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc''
[14:25] <tomaz__> any thought?
[14:25] <MrJigsaw> is is possible to connect to windows remote desktop with kubuntu ? Of so, what do i need to use ?
[14:25] <SlimeyPete> MrJigsaw: yep. RDP.
[14:25] <SlimeyPete> !rdp
[14:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rdp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> !krdp | MrJigsaw
[14:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about krdp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:25] <SlimeyPete> hrm
[14:25] <SlimeyPete> well yeah, krdp is what you want
[14:25] <n3x^> im just a bit lost, i can install the distro and it works lovely as long as i dont update
[14:26] <MrJigsaw> Can i use krdc ?
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> n3x^, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[14:26] <SlimeyPete> MrJigsaw: yeah
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> MrJigsaw, absolutely
[14:26] <MrJigsaw> uhm..
[14:26] <n3x^> it worth downloading the live cd with kde4 and trying to update from that?
[14:27] <MrJigsaw> Im writing in 192.168.1.104 ( yes im lazy using remote desktop beetween 2 PC's in same room ) but it wont find anything ?
[14:27] <asmith42> My update fouled up and now I can't install anything because it thinks another program is using the package database.
[14:27] <sebastian_> i try to start the adept manager, but it says someother program is running, so i cant start it, but when i check if there is another, there is none, what is wrong?
[14:27] <n3x^> i smell a problem with adept
[14:27]  * n3x^ kicks
[14:28] <sebastian_> it says another process is using the packaging system
[14:28] <asmith42> The same type of thing happens when I try to use Package Installer
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> sebastian_, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[14:28] <Pendeta> Tm_T and MrJigSaw, thanks for your help!
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> n3x^, no point, if you run the dpkg command it should be ok
[14:28] <asmith42> "Only one software management tool is allow to run at the same time"
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> asmith42, did you double click the update reminder?
[14:29] <SlimeyPete> !aptfix | asmith42
[14:29] <ubotu> asmith42: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[14:29] <sebastian_> and then Yes?
[14:30] <sebastian_> it is working now, thx a lot :D
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> np sebastian_
[14:30] <asmith42> Yes, as soon as I got Kubuntu installed, I clicked on the update reminder
[14:30] <n3x^> its booting!
[14:30] <n3x^> ActionParsnip ur a hero
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> n3x^, id stick to sudo apt-get distupgrade. I find adept a bit twichy
[14:31] <n3x^> kk
[14:31] <BluesKaj> wow , anyone else have a 40sec lag ?
[14:31] <SlimeyPete> no lag here
[14:31] <genii> ActionParsnip:I haven't used adept or even synaptic in a while now. I apt-get pretty much everything
[14:31] <genii> BluesKaj: 155ms here
[14:31] <SlimeyPete> asmith42: if you do what ubotu said, your adept/apt should start working again
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> genii, me too
[14:32] <asmith42> I ran the aptfix suggestion and after the second command it starts running a setup of libqt3-mt
[14:32] <BluesKaj> ok now SlimeyPete , back to 1 sec , tolerable
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj, probably a network spaz nearby
[14:32] <SlimeyPete> asmith42: yeah, it's trying to continue where it left off, I imagine
[14:32] <asmith42> SlimeyPete: OK
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> asmith42, let it have its fun and see what happens :)
[14:33] <asmith42> ActionParsnip: Will do.
[14:33] <asmith42> That did the trick.
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> you can even make a bash script called kubuntu-update
[14:33] <asmith42> thank you very much
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> or an alias
[14:34] <esophagus> i'm having trouble getting a wireless usb t recognize my network
[14:34] <asmith42> Oh, right.
[14:34] <asmith42> that would be a good idea
[14:34] <esophagus> under gutsy
[14:34] <BluesKaj> strange tho, I live 300Meters from the ISP switch
[14:34] <esophagus> laptop running ubuntu 7.10 is able to connect
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> esophagus, what make / model is your wifi?
[14:34] <esophagus> router r usb?
[14:34] <esophagus> or usb?
[14:34] <nosrednaekim> esophagus➜ are your wireless dongle is supported?
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> the usb.
[14:34] <BluesKaj> router
[14:35] <BluesKaj> oh :)
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> router is a router is a router. all the same for home networking
[14:35] <esophagus> usb is level one wnc-0305usb
[14:35] <esophagus> router is level one wbr-3408
[14:35] <esophagus> it's basically something in the settings of the wlan0 device, as kubuntu recognizes the device
[14:36] <n3x^> will dist-upgrade install kde4 or do i have to do that manually?
[14:36] <esophagus> the router seems to work fine with both windows and the ubuntu laptop
[14:36] <SlimeyPete> n3x^: manually
[14:36] <SlimeyPete> !kde4
[14:36] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[14:36] <n3x^> kk
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> esophagus, can we have a pastebin of lspci please
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> !paste | esophagus
[14:36] <esophagus> one second
[14:36] <ubotu> esophagus: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[14:37] <esophagus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55738/
[14:38] <MrJigsaw> uhm.. another program than kdrc to connect to windows remote desktop
[14:38] <MrJigsaw> ?
[14:38] <snarkster> MrJigsaw: vnc
[14:38] <snarkster> MrJigsaw: tsclient
[14:38] <MrJigsaw> ill try tsclient :-) Thanks
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> esophagus, and lsusb please
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> MrJigsaw, dont use vnc over www. its not encrypted
[14:39] <MrJigsaw> Well.. its on LAN im using it :D
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> rdp uses 128bit ssl security
[14:39] <MrJigsaw> Im freaking lazy ;P
[14:39] <esophagus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55739/
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> esophagus, looks like a realtek chip which is supported
[14:40] <esophagus> ok
[14:40] <torc> Good moring everyone
[14:40] <esophagus> i think it's basically the settings in knetworkmanager are messed up
[14:40] <nosrednaekim> esophagus➜ is your wireless encrypted?
[14:41] <esophagus> it's encrypted with wep (i know i know...)
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> esophagus, then run mv /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces.old
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> and rerun the network config manager
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> esophagus, wep is fine
[14:41] <esophagus> given where i live
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> esophagus, keeps the average idiot out :)
[14:41] <esophagus> my chances f being eaten by a dog
[14:41] <esophagus> is better than being attacked by a hacker
[14:42] <esophagus> run network config manager from the command line?
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> esophagus, just rename the file and reboot. You'll get a fresh one. I'm guessing you are not running from live cd
[14:42] <esophagus> no
[14:42] <esophagus> hold on
[14:42] <esophagus> back in a jiffy
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> esophagus, no you are renaming theconfig file
[14:42] <MrJigsaw> Sweeet
[14:42] <MrJigsaw> tsclient works ;>
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> esophagus, you will get a fresh file
[14:43] <n3x^> righty, updated and installed kde3
[14:43] <n3x^> 4*
[14:43] <n3x^> lets see what happens
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> MrJigsaw, tsclient is a frontend for rdesktop :)
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> MrJigsaw, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsclient
[14:43] <esophagus> it looks like i've only got interfaces.old
[14:44] <MrJigsaw> SO now im logged ind, and i cant remember what i needed to do.. lol! :D
[14:44] <esophagus> should i have regular interfaces in /etc/network too?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> so you dont have /etc/network/interfaces ?
[14:44] <esophagus> n
[14:44] <esophagus> interfaces.bak-0
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> you will when you run the config wizard :)
[14:44] <esophagus> and interfaces.old
[14:44] <esophagus> haha
[14:44] <esophagus> ok
[14:44] <snarkster> my interfaces file is empty except for loop back
[14:44] <esophagus> it will give a new file when i restart though?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> esophagus, indeed
[14:44] <esophagus> alright
[14:44] <esophagus> back in a jiffy
[14:45] <snarkster> later
[14:45] <sebastian_> where can i find the update manager?
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> snarkster, then you havent configured your network fully but if its working then fine :)
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> sebastian_, run adept
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> sebastian_, or at command line sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get distupgrade
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> (CLI easier)
[14:46] <sebastian_> thx
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> sebastian_, np man
[14:47] <sebastian_> i did
[14:48] <sebastian_> but it says another process is using it
[14:48] <zhangkai> How to run kickoff?
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | sebastian_
[14:48] <sebastian_> ok now it worked
[14:48] <ubotu> sebastian_: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[14:48] <esophagus> it works!
[14:48] <esophagus> thanks
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> esophagus, np man :)
[14:49] <esophagus> heh
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> esophagus, that works with LOADS of stuff
[14:49] <esophagus> rebooting?
[14:49] <esophagus> it seems like an old windows tactic
[14:49] <esophagus> haha
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> esophagus, but just rename so if its no better you can roll back
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> esophagus, those things are settings so watch what you do :)
[14:49] <esophagus> ah, i see
[14:50] <esophagus> alright
[14:50] <esophagus> i'm off for now
[14:50] <esophagus> thanks again
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> esophagus, I had to do it with firefox once
[14:50] <esophagus> for your help
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> esophagus, np man
[14:50] <esophagus> firefox crashes
[14:50] <esophagus> just wait for it
[14:50] <esophagus> haha
[14:50] <sebastian_> ive tryed run adept command, but it didnt work
[14:50] <sebastian_> it sayd command not found
[14:50] <esophagus> under xubuntu, killall firefox-bin
[14:50] <nosrednaekim> sebastian_➜ adept_manager
[14:50] <esophagus> used to be my most commn command
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> cheers nosrednaekim
[14:50] <esophagus> not sure why it was always necessary
[14:51] <esophagus> adios
[14:51] <sebastian_> but how do i  update in the adept manager?
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> esophagus, suprised you didnt alias it ;)
[14:51] <esophagus> haha
[14:51] <sebastian_> i tryed fetch updates, but i dont know how to install them
[14:51] <esophagus> next time
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> sebastian_, did you run the command?
[14:51] <sebastian_> yes
[14:51] <zhangkai> How to run kickoff package.
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> sebastian_, and now can you sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get distupgrade
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> !kickoff
[14:52] <ubotu> Kickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> zhangkai, sudo apt-get install kickoff
[14:52] <sebastian_> : Invalid operation distupgrade
[14:52] <sebastian_> it sayd : Invalid operation distupgrade
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> sebastian_, try upgrade then
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:53] <BluesKaj> bbl...errands
[14:53] <sebastian_> it did work
[14:53] <sebastian_> but it doesent install
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> sebastian_, its downloading it all first
[14:53] <zhangkai> ActionParsnip,not found kickoff
[14:54] <psicobra> !bored
[14:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bored - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:54] <sebastian_> ok
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> zhangkai, you'll need the deb file
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> zhangkai, then sudo dpkg -i kicker-kickoff_1_i386.deb
[14:55] <tzd> can someone please help me with a "non-working" sudo command? Trying to install flashplayer tar.gz format via command: sudo ./flashplayer-installer .I have execute right but i get error message: permission denied
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> zhangkai, wget http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/pool/feisty/3v1n0/kicker-kickoff_1_i386.deb sudo dpkg -i kicker-kickoff_1_i386.deb
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> tzd, if you extract the file you should have a .so file. Copy that to your web browsers plugins folder
[14:56] <psicobra> tzd: did u chmod +x the flash install
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> right guys im out
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> peace
[14:57] <tzd> ActionParsnip: ah didn't know that.. doesnt way anywhere :) thanks
[14:57] <tzd> psicobra: it comes as x when it's unpacked so no need for chmod
[14:57] <psicobra> ok i installed flah using apt-get
[14:58] <psicobra> or actually i think firefox did it for me
[14:58] <psicobra> can't remember
[14:58] <tzd> psicobra: yeah i used that as well and it works until i restart, then I'm back to zero again even though it says the nonfree installer is installed... driving me nuts since a lot of the web sites im using is flash based  ;)
[14:59] <tzd> the apt-get cmd that is
[14:59] <tzd> going to try parsnips advice... he knows my computer better than i do ;P
[14:59] <psicobra> tzd: understand i used fire fox went to a page that used flash it told me plugin needed and i installed it
[15:00] <psicobra> sounds like a good idea
[15:00] <tzd> psicobra: hmm i used to do like that when i was using windows but i don't think it worked in kubuntu?
[15:01] <psicobra> yeah it does tzd
[15:01] <psicobra> in firefox any ways
[15:01] <stratman4300> I'm trying to change my compiz/emerald window theme with emerald-theme-manager but it says i need subversion installed to download the themes....  i installed the kdesvn package, but that didn't seem to do the trick.... anyone run into this??
[15:02] <arcticpenguin380> will i notice a speedboost with 64Bit
[15:03] <tzd> hmm copying the .so file didn't work since i alreadyt had it there... my guess is that i've messed up my home folder in some kind of way
[15:03] <stratman4300> articpenguin380: yes, with natvie 64bit KDE and GNOME apps you will.
[15:04] <tzd> psicobra: do you have a separate partition for your home folder?
[15:04] <psicobra> nope
[15:04] <tzd> oki ;)
[15:04] <psicobra> normally would but i let kubuntu do it all
[15:06] <arcticpenguin380> is 14GB a lot
[15:06] <arcticpenguin380> for /
[15:06] <SlimeyPete> it's plenty
[15:07] <stratman4300> articpenguin380: i run 7GB for / and i have more than enough space.....  you'll be fine as long as you specifiy a different partition for home
[15:07] <arcticpenguin380> i have 133GB for home
[15:08] <stratman4300> articpenguin380: that is if it's a desktop system and you'll be storing music and what now
[15:08] <arcticpenguin380> may be i can get 4 more GBs for /home i had had 7GB free for months
[15:08] <arcticpenguin380> days i mean
[15:12] <trappist> man, still no new kernel?!
[15:12] <kkerwin> trappist: Ya. Scarey. Just shut off SSH if you can.
[15:13] <FaiDillinGer> hi there
[15:13] <kkerwin> FaiDillinGer: Hello.
[15:13] <FaiDillinGer> whats up will all theses updates
[15:13] <pietjephuck> or compile your own kernel?
[15:14] <trappist> there are other alternatives, and I'm not exposed.  I'm just disappointed that with such a gaping hole they're not responding more quickly.
[15:17] <pietjephuck> trappist: I agree
[15:24] <sebastian_> how do i install java?
[15:24] <jussi01> !java
[15:24] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[15:25] <jussi01> sebastian_: install the  sun-java6-jre pacage
[15:26] <sebastian_> tjx :D
[15:26] <sebastian_> thxÄ
[15:26] <sebastian_> *
[15:26] <jussi01> :D
[15:28] <MGalaxy> how can I force GTK/GNOME APPs to use my KDE theme or I change their theme?
[15:28] <epssi> hey. where can i change the applications i want to be started on login?
[15:29] <epssi> mgalaxy system settings-> appearance
[15:29] <jussi01> MGalaxy: system sttings -> appearance -> gtk themes and styles
[15:30] <MGalaxy> epssi: jussi01: I already set it, but only some of APPs use the KDE theme, not all of them
[15:30] <nosrednaekim> !session | epssi
[15:30] <ubotu> epssi: To make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[15:30] <nosrednaekim> !autostart
[15:30] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[15:32] <jussi01> Does anyone know of a program I can use to permanently highlight pdf's??
[15:32] <sebastian_> when i install java in the termina, the license agreement appear, how do i accept?
[15:32] <epssi> why is there two Xorg's running by default? colosing the other one doesn't crash X, just seems to free some resources
[15:33] <sebastian_> when i install java in the termina, the license agreement appear, how do i accept?
[15:34] <sebastian_> when i install java in the termina, the license agreement appear, how do i accept?
[15:34] <sebastian_> when i install java in the termina, the license agreement appear, how do i accept?
[15:34] <sebastian_> when i install java in the termina, the license agreement appear, how do i accept?
[15:34] <JoshOvki> you type    yes
[15:34] <werner> sebastian_: just scroll down util you reach the end ...
[15:35] <sebastian_> i cant even scroll
[15:35] <JoshOvki> ah yeh, you must scroll down first
[15:35] <Lynoure> epssi: not by default, I bet... At least I only have one
[15:35] <JoshOvki> press the down button
[15:35] <sebastian_> it wont work
[15:35] <Lynoure> he certainly seemed to be able to press up button...
[15:36] <JoshOvki> tryed the page down button?
[15:36] <sebastian_> now
[15:37] <sebastian_> but when im done, it doesent accept
[15:37] <khaur> press tab
[15:37] <sebastian_> ok thx :D
[15:37] <hydrogen> how can I ensure an env variable is set in the environment kde starts in?
[15:37] <epssi> ok autostart installed, but there's no apps listed that im looking for (to stop from autostarting)
[15:40] <werner> epssi: make some links?
[15:40] <epssi> uh id prefer a GUI approach
[15:40] <werner> hydrogen: edit ~/.profile  ?
[15:40] <werner> epssi: mh, yes, place some links with konqu in it?
[15:41] <newbie> why mount -t smbfs -o user=devel,password=devel //devel2 /develop /mnt doesn't work?
[15:41] <epssi> werner sorry i don't understand could you please explain
[15:41] <sebastian_> how do i install java?
[15:42] <werner> epssi: open konqueror , 2 windows, and drag n' drop apps to the autostart folder?
[15:42] <BluesKaj> !java | sebastian_
[15:42] <ubotu> sebastian_: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[15:43] <epssi> werner im looking for a way to stop apps from autostarting, not to autostart them
[15:43] <schiste> Edgy, little old fashioned isn't it ?
[15:43] <werner> newbie: is the a " " (space) to mouch in your command between //devel2 /develop ? what doues the output say?
[15:43] <werner> epssi: uups, sorry !  :-))
[15:43] <werner> epssi: what apps are this?
[15:44] <sebastian_> i dont know what java to install
[15:44] <werner> sebastian_: current java j2dk from the sun homepage ?
[15:44] <sebastian_> how do i install the file? i tryed that but dont know what program i need
[15:44] <jussi01> sebastian_: I mention it earlier: sun-java6-jre
[15:45] <epssi> werner konqueror & kwallet
[15:45] <werner> jussi01: oh, jre , not jdk .. upps :-)
[15:45] <c1|freaky> hi all. is there a possibility to store the information from contact on a dedicated server? like the calendar and addressbook?
[15:45] <sebastian_> where do i find it?
[15:45] <werner> epssi: try close this apps and save the profile when shuting donw kde ...
[15:46] <sebastian_> jussi01  where can i find it?
[15:47] <epssi> then again i would like to start just a fresh session when i log in, but i dont want to be bothered to close every window when i logout/shutdown
[15:47] <jussi01> sebastian_: system -> adept
[15:48] <sebastian_> thx
[15:48] <jussi01> sebastian_: you may need to go to the manage repositories in the menu and tick the multivers repository
[15:49] <FaiDillinGer> whats the easiest way to get a LAMP server ready on kubuntu 7.10 plz ?
[15:50] <jussi01> !lamp
[15:50] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[15:50] <FaiDillinGer> thx jussi01
[15:51] <jussi01> :)
[15:53] <n3x^> i cant seem to get a desktop shortcut to work anymore, the program runs through konsole fine, but when i try make a shortcut it fails misserably
[15:53] <n3x^> any ideas? :[
[15:54] <werner> n3x^: wrap it with xterm  (like : xterm -e application )
[15:54] <epssi> any ideas why get duplicate Xorg on startup?
[15:54] <BluesKaj> n3x^, how are you making the "shortcut" , from the kmenu ?
[15:55] <n3x^> um, well i just installed kde4 so its all a bit weird, i cant just right click on desktop and create a link to application
[15:55] <n3x^> but essentially its a program.desktop
[15:56] <BluesKaj> n3x^, use the kmenu / add to desktop option
[15:56] <Liono> I am planning to open a larg internet cafe based on linux. I am not a geek but used linux for a while. i heard that its possible to use as many user accounts simultaniously with only one cpu and may moniters +  key board mice. is that a good idea?
[15:56] <werner> program.desktop contains only some infos, you may edit it with kedit or something ... :-)
[15:56] <werner> bye!
[15:57] <n3x^> u dont actually have the program in kmenu though
[15:57] <n3x^> i*
[15:58] <BluesKaj> n3x^, what apps are you trying to add ?
[15:58] <n3x^> under command i have : /home/user/program/program and under work path i have /home/user/program/
[15:59] <n3x^> um, a game called tibia ^^
[15:59] <n3x^> i had the shortcut working fine under kde3
[15:59] <n3x^> but in kde4 its being mean to me
[15:59] <BluesKaj> kde4 | n3x^
[15:59] <BluesKaj> !kde4 | n3x^
[15:59] <ubotu> n3x^: KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[16:00] <manuel__> have anybody had problems with a frozen laptop after a few minutes running???
[16:00] <BluesKaj> n3x^, Support in #kubuntu-kde4, might be better than here.
[16:01] <n3x^> yeh, im trying, bit quiet in there though
[16:02] <n3x^> no answer in kde either
[16:02] <sebastian_> i cant get java to work
[16:03] <sebastian_> how do i get java to work?
[16:03] <BluesKaj> sebastian_, a hint about installing java, make sure you've agreed to the disclaimer , sometimes ppl miss that
[16:03] <sebastian_> i did
[16:04] <sebastian_> but i still cant get it to work with firefox
[16:04] <sebastian_> can u explain how u installed it?
[16:04] <BluesKaj> I used adept
[16:04] <sebastian_> what did u search for?
[16:05] <BluesKaj> sun java
[16:05] <BluesKaj> not jre
[16:05] <sebastian_> ok
[16:05] <BluesKaj> if you got jre1.4 ..uninstall it , use either sun jave 5 or 6
[16:05] <sebastian_> but now it came up a lot of diffrent java
[16:06] <sebastian_> ok
[16:06] <BluesKaj> I use 6
[16:06] <scott_> quick question: If I want to halt my computer in 30 minutes do I type "sudo halt 1800" ?
[16:06] <icewaterman> did anyone try to install grub on kubuntu for amd64
[16:06] <sebastian_> i have them installed
[16:06] <sebastian_> maby i need to restart the comp?
[16:07] <icewaterman> sebastian_: restarting computer is only necessary in case you switch the kernel
[16:07] <icewaterman> sebastian_: and if you do it right not even then
[16:07] <sebastian_> ok
[16:07] <sebastian_> so why wont the java work?
[16:08] <BluesKaj> sebastian_, java-common is required as well
[16:08] <sebastian_> ok
[16:08] <BluesKaj> icewaterman, yes I had amd 64 working fine with grub
[16:08] <sebastian_> its alredy installed
[16:09] <BluesKaj> do you have FF open ? if so close it and restart it
[16:09] <sebastian_> maby i can install cnr, and install it from it
[16:09] <sebastian_> FF?
[16:09] <BluesKaj> firefox
[16:10] <sebastian_> ok
[16:10] <sebastian_> i have restarted it
[16:10] <MGalaxy> I use Keramik theme, almost all windows and buttons are blue, but in some APPs like Adept_manager|Manage repositories all of them are gray, why?
[16:11] <icewaterman> BluesKaj: i cannot install grub again. i can do so from 32-bit knoppix
[16:11] <icewaterman> but i cannot install it from ubuntu
[16:11] <sebastian_> blues?
[16:12] <sebastian_> blues u know someting more i can do?
[16:12] <sebastian_> do i need the sun java development kit?
[16:13] <BluesKaj> icewaterman, you most likely have it installed , it may be hidden , try this in the run command box: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst , then check if hiddenmenu is uncommented (no # in front)
[16:13] <brian_> Help!! I have installed the newest Nvidia drivers and now my monitior is really screwed up!
[16:13] <sebastian_> brian, uninstall it
[16:13] <icewaterman> BluesKaj: no, i cannot reinstall it (grub-install /dev/hda)
[16:13] <brian_> The screen is too small, I can't
[16:13] <icewaterman> BluesKaj: the package is there
[16:14] <BluesKaj> I'm not telling you to install grub, just to check and edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[16:15] <Sbucat> exist a boot-up manager for kubuntu ?
[16:15] <Liono> I am planning to open a larg internet cafe based on linux. I am not a geek but used linux for a while. i heard that its possible to use as many user accounts simultaniously with only one cpu and may moniters +  key board mice. is that a good idea?
[16:15] <brian_> Ah ok I am uninstalling the nVidia Drivers.. This happened before aswell.Do I need to get different Drivers?
[16:15] <icewaterman> BluesKaj: i have, but grub is not in mbr anymore
[16:15] <icewaterman> so i need to reinstall
[16:15] <icewaterman> that can be done by grub-install /dev/hda
[16:15] <sebastian_> dont, install any driver, just let it be
[16:16] <icewaterman> but not for me
[16:16] <icewaterman> for some reason that always fails
[16:16] <sebastian_> it usally get screwed up when u install a driver that doesent come with ubuntu
[16:16] <brian_> Where can I find the correct drivers for my 6200? Aparently the default ones are wrong..
[16:16] <aos101> MGalaxy: It's probably like that in Adept because Adept is run as root (not as your own user), so it is styled according to the settings of the root user.  Go Kicker -> Run Command and run "kdesu kcontrol" and under the themes bit change it to look how you want.
[16:17] <sebastian_> download from nvidia, but i dont know how it will work
[16:17] <noaXess> i'm searching for a software like submitwolf but for linux... it's for submit websites to search engines.. any hint?
[16:17] <sebastian_> or use the update manager
[16:18] <BluesKaj> icewaterman, did you install windows after installing kubuntu ?
[16:20] <negro> ayuda pa un novato?
[16:20] <BluesKaj> !grub | icewaterman
[16:20] <ubotu> icewaterman: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[16:21] <BluesKaj> !es | negro
[16:21] <ubotu> negro: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:21] <negro> gracias
[16:21] <BluesKaj> de nada
[16:22] <sebastianito> Can someone help me with installing Java!?
[16:23] <SlimeyPete> !java
[16:23] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[16:23] <sebastianito> i have
[16:23] <SlimeyPete> sebastianito: what's the problem exactly?
[16:23] <sebastianito> i tryed evrything nothing works
[16:23] <sebastianito> i cant get java to work, i have installed the sun java 6 and it still wont work
[16:23] <SlimeyPete> how do you mean "won't work". Do you see an error message?
[16:24] <Lynoure> SlimeyPete: does not work how?
[16:24] <Lynoure> oops...
[16:24] <SlimeyPete> Are you trying to run a .jar, or compile some code, or what?
[16:24] <sebastianito> when i start a game in firefox, it still says missing plugin
[16:25] <SlimeyPete> sebastianito: you've install sun-java6-plugin?
[16:25] <sebastianito> let me check
[16:26] <sebastianito> haha no i didn't
[16:27] <sebastianito> it will probably work now, thx :D
[16:27] <SlimeyPete> :)
[16:27] <sebastianito> yup, it works
[16:28] <SlimeyPete> :)
[16:28] <sebastianito> thx
[16:29] <icewaterman> BluesKaj: my point is, that i cannot run grub-install because it always fails
[16:29] <icewaterman> BluesKaj: i know this howto and i do what it says but i always get grub: asmstub.c:170: grub_stage2: Assertion `ret == 0' failed.
[16:29] <icewaterman> Aborted
[16:29] <icewaterman> THAT is my problem
[16:30] <werner> icewaterman: maybe you should install another version of grub!
[16:30] <icewaterman> werner: ?
[16:30] <icewaterman> werner: that is the default version of grub i use
[16:31] <werner> icewaterman: yes, i thought so ... ok, try deinstall and reinstall it (with "purge" !)
[16:32] <icewaterman> btw, though i am on amd64 it seems to be the 32bit version of grub (suppose there is no amd64 version)
[16:33] <icewaterman> werner: even running "grub" does give me the same error
[16:36] <werner> icewaterman: oh .. mh .. have you moved stage2 and removed it back?
[16:36] <werner> !lvm
[16:36] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[16:36] <icewaterman> werner: i removed it and installed it again
[16:36] <icewaterman> i am not using lvm
[16:37] <werner> icewaterman: lvm was not meaning you sorry :-)
[16:37] <icewaterman> werner: np
[16:39] <werner> icewaterman: i had sometimes problems with grub, too, and i never saw what could caused the problems ... i reinstalled it , build the disk-table new and run grub-install ...
[16:39] <werner> icewaterman: maybe try to minimize first your grubmenu file and try to install grub ...
[16:40] <icewaterman> werner: grub alone doesnt work (not the config file)
[16:40] <icewaterman> werner: when you type grub it should give you the grub console
[16:43] <werner> icewaterman: thats right. not even this works?
[16:44] <werner> icewaterman: have you tried: apt-get purge grub? and reinstelled it?
[16:44] <icewaterman> werner: tried
[16:44] <werner> icewaterman: damn
[16:44] <vamsi> Hi, can somebody help me with the installation of a small program called emotif? It is a molecular biology related program
[16:45] <werner> icewaterman: seems to be a hard one ...
[16:45] <icewaterman> werner: bbl
[16:45] <icewaterman> maybe this is a kernel issue
[16:46] <werner> icewaterman: may be... have you build your own one?
[16:46] <icewaterman> werner: it is a kernel issue (i use that pax-security patches)
[16:46] <icewaterman> werner: yes
[16:47] <icewaterman> werner: fixed it
[16:47] <werner> icewaterman: than it seems to be, that you are alone with this problem :)
[16:47] <werner> s/than/the/
[16:47] <icewaterman> werner: right
[16:47] <werner> s/the/then *lol*
[16:48] <werner> icewaterman: how did you fixed it?
[16:48] <icewaterman> werner: pax has several features that can be disabled on a per binary basis
[16:49] <werner> icewaterman: so you thied various configs ... ?
[16:49] <werner> tried
[16:50] <icewaterman> werner: no you can write flags to the header of a binary that pax-enabled kernels read and then allow to run the program with only the restrictions you configured
[16:51] <icewaterman> that way you can disable some features for some binaries and protect the rest.
[16:52] <werner> icewaterman: ah, ok, i have no idea of pax :-)  as long as it worx :-)  !
[16:52] <icewaterman> yeah, it does
[16:52] <aeternius> Hi how is everyone here? I just installed Kubuntu. I am new to linux. When I click on "Add Remove Programs" nothing happens (except the icon bounces) the same thing happens if I click System - Adept Manager.
[16:53] <theTheme> Hey everyone, I just installed wengo and I'm having problems with the port that is is connecting over, I want to change it to port 16588 but I can't seem to find where that option is
[16:54] <negro> #kubuntu_es
[16:54] <white_eagle> why is KDE 4 with so sluggish performance at me?
[16:54] <unagi> can anyone help me wth my resolution? its 1024 x 768 and my screen is 1440 x 900
[16:54] <icewaterman> unagi: had a similar problem and no good solution, just a workarround
[16:55] <linuxman> hello everyone! i just tried out kde 4.0... very nice
[16:55] <unagi> work around? my resolution was right before...
[16:55] <ForgeAus> :) kewl linuxman :)
[16:55] <linuxman> altho i think it still needs alot of work...
[16:55] <icewaterman> unagi: did you upgrade to 7.10?
[16:55] <aeternius> Hi Unagi try; K Menu/ System Settings / Monitor & Display
[16:55] <nodesert> is there anyone who can help me about grub.It cant see the windows in boot loader menu.i reinstalled it but nothing changed
[16:55] <unagi> aeternius: the max resolution is 1024 x 768
[16:56] <aeternius> oh, I see
[16:56] <icewaterman> unagi: your xorg.conf is probably screwed
[16:56] <linuxman> now i have a problem.. i don't think its really big tho!
[16:56] <unagi> brb
[16:56] <aeternius> Sorry I don't know in that case unagi but good luck I hope you find a fix :)
[16:57] <linuxman> i really like kde 4.0 but i want to remove it for now... i tried it out and deleted everything from the panel.. can't seem to get everything back w/a mouse click
[16:57] <unagi> what could be screwed in the xorg to not let me go higher than 1024 x 768
[16:57] <MGalaxy> I have a problem with compiz: http://phpfi.com/296039
[16:57] <linuxman> i know there are wigets and stuff.. but the panel is just not working for me
[16:58] <aeternius> When I click "Add Remove Programs" nothing happens. How do I add and remove programs?
[16:58] <linuxman> i think i'll wait for kde 4.1; how do i remove it from gnome? i tried sudo apt-get remove kde... but the apps are still there
[16:59] <unagi> can anyone help me troubleshoot why my max resolution is 1024 x 768 but my screen is 1440 x 900
[16:59] <unagi> linuxman sudo apt-get remove --purge kde
[17:00] <linuxman> unagi: i have other programs i like that are kde... such as k3b... will they b removed too?
[17:01] <MrJigsaw> uhm.. is there any chance i can get in contact with my windows sharing's with kubuntu? :)
[17:02] <arcticpenguin380> is jfs faster than ext3
[17:08] <denis> hallo
[17:08] <denis> can anyone help me?
[17:09] <pag> denis, with..?
[17:09] <denis> hello
[17:09] <denis> I have a small problem
[17:09] <denis> yesterday I installed kubuntu
[17:09] <Pici> That is a problem.
[17:10] <Pici> Oh, sorry. I should be less sarcastic.
[17:10] <denis> and It said that there would be  a system upgrade available
[17:10] <denis> you are funny pici
[17:10] <denis> I did everything what it said
[17:10] <denis> downloaded all the files
[17:11] <denis> and then kubuntu asked me for a password
[17:11] <denis> and it didn't accept mine
[17:11] <Pici> Did you set up any additional users, or are you using the same user that you installed the system with?
[17:11] <denis> no additional users
[17:12] <denis> only one user
[17:12] <pag> denis, try the command line: sudo apt-get install -f
[17:12] <denis> is this once again a ubuntu joke? I know that it had problems with su in former times too
[17:13] <denis> hmpf
[17:13] <denis> it says
[17:13] <denis> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[17:14] <jpatrick> !aptfix | denis
[17:14] <ubotu> denis: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[17:14] <MrJigsaw> http://peecee.dk/upload/view/97245/full Does this meen im using 475Mb ram ?
[17:14] <pag> denis, sudo dpkg --configure -a  ? :P
[17:14] <unagi> can anyone help me figure out why no matter what i do, my max resolution is wrong?
[17:14] <denis> perhaps ;-)
[17:15] <denis> what shell I do?
[17:16] <denis> keep the current files
[17:16] <denis> or
[17:16] <denis> accept the new one?
[17:16] <jpatrick> denis: keep current
[17:18] <denis> pag?
[17:18] <denis> thanks
[17:19] <denis> it's working
[17:20] <brian_> Hey I have about 30g of unpartitioned space on my hard drive.. how do I merge than into my ext3?
[17:21] <jussi01> !info qtparted
[17:21] <ubotu> qtparted (source: qtparted): A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu12 (gutsy), package size 206 kB, installed size 720 kB
[17:21] <jussi01> brian_: ^^
[17:21] <brian_> I am looking at Qtparted but it doesn't give me that option. it lets me format it to ext2, but that's not what I need.
[17:23] <BluesKaj> brian_, try Gparted live cd , more options and easier to use
[17:23] <BluesKaj> !gparted
[17:23] <ubotu> GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[17:23] <brian_> Ok I will try that. thanks.
[17:23] <coreymon77> meh
[17:23] <coreymon77> i just use a kubuntu livecd that has qtparted included
[17:24] <BluesKaj> gparted is easier
[17:24] <BluesKaj> and more effective
[17:24] <coreymon77> i like qtparted, but thats just my preference
[17:24] <unagi> Generic Monitor doesnt work either
[17:24] <kenox> how to configure compiz in kubuntu?
[17:24] <BluesKaj> !compiz-fusion
[17:24] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[17:24] <unagi> same as gnome kenox
[17:25] <kenox> how?
[17:25] <kenox> command..?
[17:25] <unagi> ccsm
[17:25] <BluesKaj> kenox,The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[17:27] <kenox> how do i use debs from my current installation to a new one?
[17:29] <kenox> ?
[17:29] <denis> it s me again
[17:29] <denis> I checked adept and it again says that iI have the possibility to upgrade
[17:29] <kenox> i had this problem for a long time now
[17:29] <Edulix> hi
[17:29] <Edulix> is there a command to change a file from a codification to another, ie. from iso-8859-1 to utf-8?
[17:32] <denis> nobody??
[17:32] <BluesKaj> denis, pls explain
[17:33] <jussi01> !aptoncd | kenox
[17:33] <ubotu> kenox: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[17:34] <brian__> I was just in this IRC asking how to merge to partitions.. Gparted won't work for me on the live CD for some reason.. It has before but it won't load up.
[17:37] <kenox> aptoncd?
[17:37] <BluesKaj> brian__, Gparted live cd or Qtparted on kubuntu live cd ?
[17:37] <kenox> does it make repositories
[17:37] <kenox> or distro?
[17:37] <jussi01> kenox: did you read what the bot said?
[17:38] <brian__> Well, Qparted doesn't do what I need it to. I loaded Gparted with the konsole, even right now, it's still trying to load the devices.
[17:38] <kenox> yup
[17:38] <jussi01> kenox: then you know the answer... ;)
[17:39] <BluesKaj> brian__, GParted is meant to be burned onto a cd ..it's a bootable cd
[17:39] <jussi01> !gparted
[17:39] <ubotu> GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[17:39] <kenox> i want to know if it creates just the repositor for the cache folder of apt
[17:39] <brian__> Whoa!
[17:39] <jussi01> kenox: all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[17:39] <brian__> Looks like I had my arse backwards, thanks guys
[17:40] <jussi01> brian__: :)
[17:40] <brian__> You guys rock!
[17:40] <kenox> thanks
[17:41] <phoenixz> Is there a way that I can send emails from the command line? like, mail user@server "subject" "body" ?\
[17:41] <genii> phoenixz: Yes, install mailutils
[17:42] <genii> phoenixz: Then you can do like:  mail -s "subject" someone@somewhere            then type in body, a period when finished
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[17:43] <denis> [18:28] <denis> I checked adept and it again says that iI have the possibility to upgrade
[17:43] <denis> [18:29] <denis> If I would upgrade it will again ask for the password at the end
[17:43] <denis> [18:29] <denis> which it didn't accept
[17:43] <denis> [18:29] <denis> any suggestions how to bypass that problem?
[17:43] <phoenixz> genii, that would be like interactive, not? would it also be possible to do all with one command line? so that I could use that command in a shell script to send mails?
[17:44] <jussi01> !paste | denis
[17:44] <ubotu> denis: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[17:44] <denis> what??
[17:44] <phoenixz> genii, I think echo "the body" | mail user@server -s "subject" :)
[17:44] <genii> phoenixz: You can make the body some text file then:   mail -s "subject" someone@somewhere < bodytextfile
[17:44] <phoenixz> denis, in plain english, you cant paste in here
[17:44] <denis> pff
[17:44] <denis> incredible
[17:44] <phoenixz> denis, makes a hell of a mess.. because of that, you use pastebins..
[17:45] <denis> I don't know pastebins
[17:45] <phoenixz> denis, No-one is forcing you to be here.. But if you are here, these are the rules
[17:45] <phoenixz> denis, its simple
[17:45] <denis> so I will write it again
[17:45] <phoenixz> denis, you paste in a website specially built for these purposes
[17:45] <denis> ok
[17:45] <denis> thanks
[17:45] <phoenixz> denis, these websites will give you a link
[17:45] <phoenixz> denis, you post that link here, et voila
[17:46] <denis> for 4 lines?
[17:46] <phoenixz> denis, try rafb.net/paste
[17:46] <denis> no thanks
[17:46] <JoshOvki> phoenixz: how long do they keep the paste bins for? I could go look but im lazy and woundered if you knew off hand.
[17:46] <denis> I will write it again
[17:46] <jussi01> denis: anything over 3 lines you should paste.
[17:46] <denis> I installed Kubuntu on my laptop yesterday
[17:46] <denis> ok
[17:46] <phoenixz> denis, if you want somebody to spend 30 minutes to help you its not very nice if you won't even take the 2 minutes to correctly pastebin somehting..
[17:47] <denis> I see
[17:47] <jussi01> denis: also you could take notte of !enter
[17:47] <jussi01> !enter
[17:47] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[17:47] <phoenixz> JoshOvki, it depends on the paste bin site
[17:47] <denis> aha
[17:47] <Dunas> Hi.
[17:47] <phoenixz> JoshOvki, IIRC, they keep it for about a month, but you can often specify it
[17:47] <JoshOvki> phoenixz: fair enough :) thanks
[17:48] <Dunas> Kubuntu has a list of blisted drivers, right?
[17:48] <denis> ok, yesterday I installed Kubuntu on my laptop, I checked the updates with adept and it said there would be the possibility to upgrade. I did so but at the end the process asked for my password which it didn accept
[17:48] <phoenixz> denis, in any case, what exactly is your adept problem?
[17:49] <phoenixz> denis, didnt quite understand what you wrote there about the password.. its a problem that adept asks you for a password?
[17:49]  * Dunas watches the torrent download ever so slowly. @.@
[17:49] <phoenixz> Dunas, blisted drivers?
[17:49] <phoenixz> Dunas, you mean like closed source drivers?
[17:49] <Dunas> Yes, such as the RTL818x ones.
[17:49] <phoenixz> Dunas, sorry, don't understand the "blisted" part of it :)
[17:50] <Dunas> I remember trying Ubuntu, and in order to force this laptop to connect to the internet, I had to modify the blacklisted drivers- I think they refer to the closed source ones, or ones that cause fatal errors.
[17:51] <Dunas> ...and with 150 kB/s, Bittornado says it'll take three hours more than when it hit 1 kB/s. Oo
[17:51] <phoenixz> Dunas, Ah, thats more often about malfunctioning drivers I think.. But closed source drivers are also discouraged as they are -officially- illegal.. However, they are not banner AFAIK, you have to use the "restricted driver manager" to install them
[17:51] <unix_infidel> anyone know if the ipod touch can do 802.11x authentication yet?
[17:52] <denis> so I could't upgrade, the process was blocked. 30 min ago a nice person here helped me to solve the problem. My question is what I have to do to solve the problem when I want to upgrade once again
[17:53] <MrJigsaw> http://peecee.dk/upload/view/97245/full Does this meen im using 475Mb ram ?
[17:53] <Dunas> phoenixz, all I remember from that time was that I had to do something in the terminal and remove the RTL818x driver from the list. I think it was "sudo gedit blist" or something.
[17:53]  * JoshOvki taps fingers while headers update
[17:53] <Dunas> The Restricted Driver Manager didn't help.
[17:53] <Dunas> Nor, for the record, did ndiswrapper. Oddly enough.
[17:54] <JoshOvki> Dunas: did you have to edit  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist   ?
[17:54] <Dunas> That's the file.
[17:54] <JoshOvki> Dunas: it wasnt something like      echo "blacklist ath_pci" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist    was it?
[17:54] <phoenixz> MrJigsaw, I guess it does
[17:55] <Dunas> ...no, not that complex.
[17:55] <JoshOvki> ok
[17:55] <phoenixz> Dunas, what JoshOvki says..
[17:55] <Dunas> I had to open it in gedit and remove the rtl818x drive from the list. The wireless worked perfectly following that.
[17:55] <phoenixz> Dunas, I mean, Im pretty sure you're talking about that file
[17:56] <phoenixz> Dunas, you could open it using gedit yeah, but you'd have to use sudo to edit it as root user
[17:56]  * JoshOvki goes back into his corner and allows phoenixz to sort it out
[17:56] <phoenixz> Dunas, then you can comment out the driver using #
[17:56] <Dunas> Right. "sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist"
[17:56] <phoenixz> Dunas, yeap
[17:56] <Dunas> I was wondering if Kubuntu had something similar, since that was the only way this crappy integrated card would work.
[17:58] <unagi> can anyone help me figure out why ubuntu doesnt give me the right resolution?
[17:58] <JoshOvki> unagi: have you tryed to edit your xorg.conf  yet?
[17:58] <phoenixz> unagi, ubuntu or kubuntu? IIRC, kubuntu has some problem with getting the right screen resolution
[17:58] <unagi> yes
[17:58] <phoenixz> !resolution
[17:58] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[17:59] <unagi> kubuntu
[17:59] <phoenixz> !resolution | unagi
[17:59] <ubotu> unagi: please see above
[17:59] <phoenixz> Dunas, on what other system did you try this then?
[17:59] <phoenixz> Dunas, try cat  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[18:00] <Dunas> This one. I eventually had to go back to Windows XP for other reasons that aren't present now.
[18:01] <thomas_newbie__> how can i check if I have arpd installed? or any package for that matter
[18:01] <thomas_newbie__> can i query with apt-get?
[18:01] <phoenixz> Dunas, and try find /lib/modules/ -name *818*
[18:03] <phoenixz> thomas_newbie__, Not 100% but apt-cache should be able to help you with that.. try man apt-cache
[18:03] <JoshOvki> thomas_newbie__ try   sudo apt-get install arpd   it will tell you if it is installed and if it isnt it will ask you do you want to install
[18:04] <unagi> still doesnt work
[18:04] <unagi> !resolution
[18:04] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[18:05] <JoshOvki> thomas_newbie__ or if you run   apt-cache pkgnames    it should give you a full list of applications installed on ur pc
[18:05] <alromaithi> guys what is plasmoids and how to install please
[18:06] <thomas_newbie__> JoshOvki: aw cool
[18:06] <thomas_newbie__> well i found it
[18:06] <phoenixz> alromaithi, thats a KDE4 feature, and you need to install / use KDE4 to use it
[18:07] <thomas_newbie__> i'm using honeyd and i'm trying to set up a honeypot....any help or references?
[18:07] <alromaithi> i have kde 4  :D  but where is the options for it and to put my plasmoids downloads that i got from kde?
[18:07] <phoenixz> alromaithi, if you're using kubuntu, you can add a KDE4 repository to install KDE4 right next to your current KDE3 to try it
[18:07] <phoenixz> !plasmoids
[18:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plasmoids - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:07] <phoenixz> !plasma
[18:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plasma - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:08] <phoenixz> alromaithi, I'd suggest google :) Im not an expert yet
[18:08] <phoenixz> thomas_newbie__, google, and maybe there is a honey channel on freenode?
[18:08] <JoshOvki> alromaithi:  try installing    extragear-plasma   p.s. this should be asked in  #kubuntu-kde4
[18:08] <jussi01> alromaithi: join #kubuntu-kde4 for kde4 support
[18:09] <thomas_newbie__> phoenixz: i checked and no
[18:09] <alromaithi> i googled but google queries kde-look.org plasmoids stuff but not the project phoenixz
[18:09] <flats> Is there any way to play drm files in Ubuntu yet?  For instance, I'm trying to use netflix to play an online movie but it says of course it needs IE and Media player.  Is there a way to play that in linux?
[18:10] <JoshOvki> thomas_newbie__: interesting subject honey pots. I've been using one in university for the past year. But thats on a windows 2003 server
[18:10] <genii> install User Agent Switcher extension for Firefox, then tell it to pretend you're running IE7 and vista
[18:10] <phoenixz> flats,  you *could* try mplayer.. if it works, let me know :)
[18:11] <phoenixz> thomas_newbie__, in that case, google..
[18:11] <Level15> hi all
[18:11] <unagi> i dont understand why i cant have the right resolution
[18:11] <Level15> anyone experienced broken KDE today after installing language updates?
[18:11] <phoenixz> unagi, Using 2 monitors?
[18:12] <alromaithi> phoenixz: i have something to say which gave me a headache since i talked about Ubuntu for everybody
[18:12] <phoenixz> Level15, what is broken exactly?
[18:12] <unagi> phoenixz: no
[18:12] <phoenixz> alromaithi, say what? :)
[18:12] <Level15> phoenixz, nearly all kde apps fail to initialize. msg on console says kdecore (KLocale): WARNING: Definition of PluralForm is none of NoPlural/TwoForms/French/OneTwoRest/Russian/Polish/Slovenian/Lithuanian/Czech/Slovak/Arabic/Balcan/Macedonian/Gaeilge/Maltese: Definition of PluralForm - to be set by the translator of kdelibs.po
[18:12] <alromaithi> phoenixz: they say it sux :(  because i cant prove that its good and looks glossy , the reason is beacause i dont know how to make it look glossy
[18:13] <Level15> this started happening after installing updates today, and is happening both on desktop and laptop
[18:13] <phoenixz> alromaithi, ah.. Well, compiz usually does the trick quite nicely.. 50% of people I've shown it actually convert within the day.. :)
[18:13] <phoenixz> alromaithi, in about 1 more month I guess, when KDE4 is ironed out (read, stable enough), KDE4 will DEFINATELY convert people.. KDE4 is like the definition for glossy I suppose
[18:14] <alromaithi> phoenixz: i can make ubuntu look glossy and cool because its easy to do such thing for gnome , but in KDE Kubuntu its very hard and complicated i  get a headache i sometimes stay for 8 days in a row just wasting my time gazing on the PC  trying to make it look glossy but in th eend i get pissed and go and do something crazy because of such tiring pain
[18:14] <phoenixz> Level15, that does sound like a prob. yeah.. Id recommend doing a reinstall of the kde libs with adept manager..
[18:14] <alromaithi> phoenixz: i have compiz but now with KDE4 compiz is not supported
[18:14] <JoshOvki> alromaithi you see the link i pasted in the the other channel?
[18:15] <Level15> phoenixz, adept doesn't start either :-P though i can do it by hand...
[18:15] <phoenixz> KDE4 should work with compiz, but it actuallyu doesnt need it, it has its own render engine
[18:15] <phoenixz> alromaithi, read the above
[18:15] <phoenixz> Level15, in that case, apt-get
[18:15] <jussi01> alromaithi: you need to keep your kde4 questions to #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[18:15] <phoenixz> Level15, not sure if it works, but try apt-get update kde*
[18:15] <Level15> phoenixz, it's just kind of outrageous that the updates break the system...
[18:16] <phoenixz> Level15, it would be yeah, but Ive had a near problem these past few days too.. it was only because of cautiously checking the update list that I saw that kubuntu would remove some 20% of my software, bu accident. it was fixed in the hour..
[18:17] <phoenixz> Level15, its a slip up I guess.. A bad one, surely
[18:17] <alromaithi> phoenixz:  your saying KDE4 is better then compiz? i thought compiz is the only one with magic lamp minmize and closing sidekicks with great rain and snow with leaf  aside s falling and cover tabing and etc..
[18:18] <Level15> phoenixz, yeah... pretty bad one... thanks god it's KDE, not something more vital like apache, LDAP or samba
[18:18] <phoenixz> alromaithi, not saying its better.. Its built in for one, so really part of kde.. that would be better I suppose.. Worse would be that its missing many of the special effects that compiz has.. but that would be a #kubuntu-kde4 channel discussion..
[18:19] <phoenixz> Level15, strange still that it breaks.. I mean, this one time adept would simply remove packages by accident.. but not break them
[18:19] <Level15> phoenixz, yeah... I'm actually surprised noone else has experienced it ... i thought I'd find a ton of people trying to fix it here on the channel
[18:21] <phoenixz> Level15, Meaning you probably did something out of the ordinary... probably..
[18:21] <phoenixz> Level15, using any 3rd party repos?
[18:21] <Level15> phoenixz, in the laptop, i did install kde4 but removed it later and switched back to the official repos. On the desktop, no unofficial repos
[18:22] <phoenixz> Level15, Im using the kde4 repo as well but its from kubuntu itself, which should work ok (besides that minor delete lots of stuff problem I had, which was kde4 repo related)
[18:23] <Level15> i think that when 8.04 comes out i'll reinstall from scratch... maybe will give a try to ubuntu too
[18:23] <MrJigsaw> Why is amarok SO fucked up :S ?!
[18:24] <jussi01> !ohmy | MrJigsaw
[18:24] <ubotu> MrJigsaw: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[18:24] <MrJigsaw> When i add number to a playlist, and plays the playlist, it just erases my collection ;S
[18:24] <phoenixz> Level15, for the time being.. try a reinstall of all kde related files
[18:24] <phoenixz> MrJigsaw, it erases files from disk?
[18:24] <MrJigsaw> No
[18:24] <Level15> phoenixz, yeah, i'm on that right now
[18:24] <MrJigsaw> from collection
[18:26] <phoenixz> MrJigsaw, Amarok rocks over here.. If you have a problem with it, try the #amarok channel
[18:26] <phoenixz> MrJigsaw, more chance they will help you there
[18:26] <MrJigsaw> oh, dident know there was a such :)
[18:26] <MrJigsaw> Thanks
[18:27] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[18:27] <MilhousePunkRock> !ssh
[18:27] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[18:27] <unagi> my lord this doesnt make any sense, if i have to reinstall kubuntu to fix a resolution problem, thats the end of linux for me
[18:27] <jpatrick> !msgthebot > MilhousePunkRock
[18:28] <stratman4300> unagi: your still working on that resolution issue from yesterday??
[18:28] <unagi> i guess kind of
[18:28] <unagi> i got the driver working but the resolution is wrong
[18:28] <unagi> all i want is 1440 x 900 to work
[18:28] <Liono> how to do this - one os on the server....has accounts..... users as clients using on diferent machings. ?
[18:28] <Liono> each user has seperate account and seperate client machine. (making a net cafe)
[18:29] <stratman4300> unagi: in the modes section in you xorg.conf file in the 24bit section do you have somehthing that reads 1440x900???
[18:29] <MilhousePunkRock> Liono: Kiosk mode might be what you are looking for
[18:29] <Liono> MilhousePunkRock whats that do
[18:30] <unagi> yup
[18:30] <stratman4300> but kde won't let you set it to that??
[18:30] <MilhousePunkRock> Liono: I don't really know... Google probably knows ;) Basically it should be possible...
[18:30] <unagi> kde nor nvidia-settings
[18:31] <stratman4300> unagi: what you could do is remove all other resolution entries EXCEPT 1440x900 from the 24bit field, thus forcing X to use 1440X900....  it's worth a shot
[18:31] <unagi> there are no other resolutions
[18:31] <stratman4300> hmmmm
[18:31] <stratman4300> how did you end up getting the driver to work??
[18:32] <jussi01> unagi: there is a preffered res setting you can add to xorg IIRC, dont remeber the correct syntax though
[18:32] <unagi> jussi01: wouldnt that require the res setting to be available in the settings already?
[18:34] <stratman4300> unagi: what solved your issue with the driver...  i'm just wondering for future reference
[18:34] <unagi> i dont remember
[18:34] <unagi> i guess i just reinstalled it
[18:34] <stratman4300> did it work after i walked you through recomiling it yesterday??
[18:35] <stratman4300> i had to go so didn't find out
[18:35] <unagi> i dont remember what exactly i had to do to get ubuntu to use nvidia
[18:35] <stratman4300> have you tried googling the resolution problems??
[18:35] <unagi> yes
[18:35] <MilhousePunkRock> unagi: Did you try nvidia-settings already?
[18:36] <unagi> what am i trying in nvidia-settings
[18:36] <MilhousePunkRock> unagi: Setting the resolution, the KDE control center section for displays is a bit flaky...
[18:36] <unagi> neither of them allow me to choose 1440 x 900
[18:37] <denis> hallo
[18:37] <MilhousePunkRock> Is your screen capable of it?
[18:37] <negro> spanish?
[18:37] <denis> I have a problem to upgrade
[18:37] <unagi> ......
[18:37] <unagi> it is the screens only resolution
[18:37] <MilhousePunkRock> !es | negro
[18:37] <ubotu> negro: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[18:37] <genii> !sp | negro
[18:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:38] <genii> ah, es, I forgot Espana
[18:38] <MilhousePunkRock> denis: Will it be Problem 2.0 afterwards? ;)
[18:38] <negro> genii
[18:38] <negro> un cable xfa
[18:38] <denis> sorry?
[18:39] <negro> milhousepunkrock
[18:39] <negro> tngo kbuntu instalao y kiero volver a xp
[18:39] <negro> pro no me arranca dsd cd instalacion
[18:39] <negro> d xp
[18:39] <negro> k hago?
[18:39] <denis> milhouse: my system doesn't want to upgrade because it doesn accept my password
[18:39] <MilhousePunkRock> negro: This is the english channel, the spanish channels are those that ubotu told you
[18:39] <jussi01> negro: type: /join #kubuntu-es
[18:39] <shastry> is there a way i can disable a module from loading on boot in grub?
[18:40] <shastry> i have to disable intel-agp to even boot the live cd... which i need info on how to accomplish
[18:40] <tim|imac> hi all, can someone please paste me a sources.list that is usuable to apt-get dist-upgrade from Debian etch to Kubuntu? I can't seem to find the correct sources.list :S
[18:40] <Level15> phoenixz, OK, reinstall did not help
[18:40] <jussi01> !blacklist | shastry
[18:40] <ubotu> shastry: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »
[18:40] <genii>  Me disculpo pero el español no es mi lengua materna.
[18:40] <shastry> jussi01: that wont help. i cant even boot the install disk
[18:40] <Level15> genii, just english on this channel, please
[18:41] <genii> Level15: I'm trying :)
[18:41] <JoshOvki> english and geek :)
[18:41] <Level15> lol
[18:41] <MilhousePunkRock> tim|imac: I guess that will reinstall everything...
[18:41] <phoenixz> Level15, same problem? sounds more like a config problem then
[18:41] <denis> I want to upgrade from 7.06 to 7.10
[18:41] <Level15> hey, seriously, none of you ended up with broken kde after today's language update?
[18:41] <Level15> phoenixz, yeah, same stuff
[18:41] <TimS> tim|imac: You cant.
[18:42] <phoenixz> Level15, problem then would be.. eeh.. I'd purge everything and reinstall, with apt-get as well.
[18:42] <genii> Level15: I went to an online transaltion and tried to tell negro: I apologise but spanish is not my language
[18:42] <tim|imac> MilhousePunkRock: yeah, but the Kubuntu 7.10 iso i just downloaded won't give me a live desktop in parallels :S
[18:42] <MilhousePunkRock> denis: You will need to know the sudo password after all...
[18:42] <Level15> genii, Oh, ok :P
[18:42] <denis> I do know it
[18:42] <phoenixz> Level15, problem is, purging kde files will also purge everything above that, so you'd have to reinstall all of that..
[18:42] <denis> only one account
[18:42] <Level15> jeez
[18:42] <Level15> i don't have time for that now
[18:42] <denis> but it doesn accept it
[18:42] <Level15> damn
[18:43] <MilhousePunkRock> denis: Does it say the password is wrong? Does it say that for all super user actions?
[18:43] <phoenixz> Level15, your situation sucks
[18:43] <phoenixz> ay, pardon my french
[18:43] <dragsta_> denis, have you testet sudo on console?
[18:43] <Level15> phoenixz, indeed it does
[18:43] <Level15> BIG TIME
[18:43] <denis> sudo works
[18:43] <phoenixz> Level15, Im trying to think of another solution.. Have you tried google yet?
[18:43] <MilhousePunkRock> tim|imac: Isn't parallels some virtualising thing? I am pretty sure there are pre-made images (like there are for vmware)
[18:44] <phoenixz> Level15, Im sure the problem is small in reality, just the results a re a bit bigger
[18:44] <denis> yes, it says that the password is wrong, but only in this case
[18:44] <dragsta_> why don't you upgrade with apt/aptitude?
[18:44] <tim|imac> i don't want premade images, i want my own partition scheme :P but if someone can paste me a sources.list, I can solve my problems :)
[18:44] <MilhousePunkRock> tim|imac: Just a regular sources.list?
[18:44] <tim|imac> yeah, more than enough, I'll localise it for nl myself :)
[18:45] <stratman4300> unagi: look at this link.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[18:45] <phoenixz> Level15, You could first simulate a purge and get a list of packages that would be removed.. copy that list to a file, then purge, then install from that file.. that way you dont have to remember what packages to install
[18:45] <Level15> phoenixz, to be honest, I am really close to make a backup and reinstall the whole OS
[18:45] <phoenixz> Level15, This procedure would not take much longer because if you just reinstalled kde* you should have all the packages in the apt cache still..
[18:46] <phoenixz> Level15, THAT would probably be even better :)
[18:47] <MilhousePunkRock> tim|imac: http://pastebin.ca/901514
[18:47] <Level15> phoenixz, i'll give it a try your way, if it fails i'll reinstall... not necessarily kubuntu
[18:47] <tim|imac> MilhousePunkRock: thx!
[18:48] <unagi> stratman4300: i have looked at that many times it doesnt work
[18:48] <stratman4300> unagi: what type of monitor do you have and what size is it??
[18:48] <unagi> its a laptop 15inch
[18:48] <stratman4300> unagi: wide??
[18:48] <unagi> yes
[18:49] <denis> I will retry upgrading now
[18:49] <stratman4300> unagi: what type of laptop make and modle please
[18:49] <unagi> hp dv6000t
[18:50] <phoenixz> Level15, good luck
[18:50] <Level15> phoenixz, thanks
[18:50] <stratman4300> unagi: and it has an nvidia video card??
[18:50] <unagi> xyes
[18:51] <stamen> hi
[18:51] <stamen> how can I uninstall kde4
[18:51] <denis> perhaps it will work this time
[18:51] <denis> see you later
[18:51] <blekos> hello, could u tell me the equivelant of gparted for kde?
[18:51] <stratman4300> unagi: that model has known issues with wide screen resolution.....   looking through work arounds right now
[18:51] <unagi> ???
[18:51] <stamen> blekos: qtparted
[18:51] <unagi> it worked before
[18:52] <stratman4300> unagi: yeah i know....  they seem to be intermitten issues....  the wiki even says...  "sometimes"  lol
[18:52] <stratman4300> unagi: still reading
[18:52] <unagi> it has worked ever since ive had ubuntu, it only stopped when i screwed up xorg
[18:52] <flats> ANy idea why I can see a data DVD in my CD-Rom but when I put a movie DVD in, nothing happens?
[18:53] <jussi01> !dvd | flats
[18:53] <ubotu> flats: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[18:54] <stratman4300> unagi: download this program for your distro this will install the propritary nvidia drivers and may solve your issue http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[18:54] <unagi> oh no no no no
[18:54] <unagi> last time i did that it crippled my machine
[18:55] <stratman4300> you've used envy??
[18:55] <unagi> no
[18:55] <unagi> proprietary drivers
[18:55] <stratman4300> i used this to install my drivers and it runs like a champ
[18:55] <stratman4300> not a singal issue
[18:56] <stratman4300> it's really a slick little program though....  totally up to you....  but i've experienced no problems with it or the propritary nvidia drivers.
[18:59] <jussi01> !envy | stratman4300
[18:59] <ubotu> stratman4300: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[19:00] <jussi01> stratman4300: we dont encourage envy here. Please dont suggest it
[19:01] <stratman4300> jussi01: sorry..  :| didn't know it was frowned upon....   he was just having resolution problems with the open-source driver. figured if could try a different driver it would help him troubleshot
[19:02] <jussi01> stratman4300: thats ok you didnt know, and now you do :)
[19:02] <stratman4300> :)
[19:11] <BluesKaj> Did an dapt update , now the kicker and panel crashed and are MIA (disappeared) ...what's the procedure to get them back ?
[19:11] <BluesKaj> erradept update
[19:11] <jussi01> BluesKaj: alt+f2 -> kicker ?
[19:13] <BluesKaj> tried that jussi01 , crash handler pops up
[19:14] <JoshOvki> im just installing the updates on my desktop now, i will see if it affects it
[19:14] <JoshOvki> i really hope not cause i did the updates on my laptop earlier but havnt restarted yet
[19:14] <MrJigsaw> How do i mount my harddrive ?
[19:14] <jussi01> BluesKaj: ouch
[19:14] <MrJigsaw> harddrives*
[19:15] <BluesKaj>  JoshOvki it crashed in the middle of a burn , while using K3B
[19:15] <JoshOvki> !mount :Mrjigsaw
[19:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mount :mrjigsaw - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:15] <jussi01> BluesKaj: was there a kernel update? does it need a restart?
[19:15] <JoshOvki> !mount
[19:15] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[19:15] <BluesKaj> yeah , there was a kernel update and I restarted
[19:16] <Dragonath> hey, any way to listen to streaming media that requires realplayer on kubuntu?
[19:16] <MrJigsaw> Dosent help me much, JoshOvki.
[19:16] <jussi01> BluesKaj: did you have custom settings you could remove via the . folder?
[19:16] <Level15> any kubuntu devels here?
[19:17] <JoshOvki> MrJigsaw:  Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem   mounting partitions should be the same process as drives
[19:17] <Level15> well, in case anyone is interested, language settings for english canada en_CA break KDE
[19:17] <jussi01> Level15: Id suggest #kubuntu-devel might have a few, but be very polite.
[19:17] <MrJigsaw> Well.. and what when im in there ?
[19:17] <jussi01> !bug | Level15:
[19:17] <ubotu> Level15:: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[19:18] <Level15> use qt-language-selector to switch to en_US
[19:18] <MrJigsaw> I cant seem to find anywhere that says 'mount' :|
[19:18] <jussi01> Level15: make sure you report the bug so it gets fixed
[19:18] <Level15> jussi01: oks
[19:18] <JoshOvki> MrJigsaw: does the drive not show up?
[19:19] <MrJigsaw> yes it does..
[19:19] <MrJigsaw> theyre all there..
[19:20] <JoshOvki> Click  Administrator Mode  and login, the select the drive and press new, it will then allow you to create a new mount
[19:20] <JoshOvki> BluesKaj: whats crashing for you?
[19:21] <MrJigsaw> Thanks, JoshOvki. :-)
[19:23] <unagi> !
[19:23] <jussi01> unagi: have you posted your problem to the forums?
[19:25] <jetsaredim> are there enough packages in the hardy repos to be able to build and install more plasmoids from kde-look?
[19:26] <jussi01> jetsaredim: #kubuntu-kde4 for kde4 support :)
[19:27]  * jetsaredim didn't know there was a separate channel
[19:30] <JoshOvki> \join #kubuntu-kde4
[19:30] <JoshOvki> sorry
[19:30] <BluesKaj_> solved the Kicker and panel crash by resetting it in kcontrol
[19:31] <jussi01> BluesKaj_: heh, excellent
[19:31] <BluesKaj_> yeah jussi01 , I was worried for a min or 2 :)
[19:32] <jussi01> :)
[19:32] <BluesKaj_> prolly had too much going on simultaneously
[19:32] <MrJigsaw> JoshOvki: What should i call my mount points? Is it just like names on harddrives ?
[19:34] <jussi01>  MrJigsaw whatever you like that makes you remember them
[19:35] <JoshOvki> MrJigsaw: what jussi01 said, something that when you need to know which drive you are accessing you can be certian
[19:35] <BluesKaj_> BBL ...need to reset the router as well, still got a few probs here
[19:36] <MrJigsaw> uhm..
[19:38] <sebastian_> any one know how to fix a ftp server without using package manager
[19:38] <sebastian_> adept manager*
[19:39] <jussi01> sebastian_: depends on the issue, whats wrong ith it?
[19:39] <orbitize> When I start my computer, first I have to login with user/pw, then start kdm with sudo, and then I can log in normally. What can I do to fix this?
[19:39] <MrJigsaw> i cant get it working
[19:40] <sebastian_> i dont have a ftpserver i just want to install one, u know where i can get one?
[19:41] <MrJigsaw> Can it be true that i just lost all data at one of my 500GB harddrives because i tried to mount ?
[19:42] <sebastian_> where can i get an ftp server!?
[19:42] <juckum> http://www.thinkgeek.com/caffeine/drinks/A273/
[19:42] <juckum> :d
[19:42] <sluzba> hello, please, how name have czech kubuntu irc?
[19:43] <sebastian_> where can i get an ftp server!?
[19:43] <jussi01> !cz | sluzba
[19:43] <ubotu> sluzba: České uživatele žádáme, aby mluvili v kanále #ubuntu anglicky. Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Děkujeme.
[19:43] <jussi01> !ot | juckum
[19:43] <ubotu> juckum: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[19:43] <sluzba> yea, no kubuntu, but ubuntu :D, thanks
[19:44] <sebastian_> where can i get an ftp server!?
[19:44] <sebastian_> where can i get an ftp server!?
[19:44] <sebastian_> where can i get an ftp server!?
[19:44] <sebastian_> where can i get an ftp server!?
[19:44] <jussi01> sebastian_: please dont do that
[19:44] <sebastian_> can someone help me?
[19:44] <jussi01> !ftpd
[19:44] <ubotu> FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[19:44] <jussi01> !patience | sebastian_
[19:44] <ubotu> sebastian_: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[19:45] <jussi01> sebastian_: so sudo apt-get install ftpd will get yu a ftp server
[19:45] <MrJigsaw> Uuuhm.. what dos this means: http://peecee.dk/upload/view/97272/full
[19:46] <sebastian_> ok thx a lot :)
[19:47] <sebastian_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[19:47] <sebastian_>  runit
[19:47] <sebastian_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[19:47] <sebastian_> why did i get that message?
[19:48] <jussi01> sebastian_: are you on hardy or gutsy?
[19:48] <sebastian_> what do u mean?
[19:48] <jussi01> sebastian_: which version of Kubuntu are you running?
[19:49] <sebastian_> the newest one,
[19:49] <sebastian_> dont know what number:P
[19:49] <jussi01> !release | sebastian_
[19:49] <ubotu> sebastian_: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[19:49] <jussi01> oops
[19:50] <MrJigsaw> http://peecee.dk/upload/view/97272/full <- How do i fix this? :(
[19:50] <sebastian_> i downloaded it yesturday so it is the newest
[19:52] <sebastian_> jussi
[19:53] <sebastian_> Jussi
[19:54] <jussi01> sebastian_: Please do in terminal: lsb_release -a
[19:54] <arcticpenguin380> is there a way to convert a filesystem
[19:54] <sebastian_> release: 7.10 :)
[19:54] <MrJigsaw> Noone can help me on this:
[19:54] <sebastian_> codename, gutsy
[19:54] <sluzba> please, how can i repair this:? cp: will not overwrite just-created `.../ntfs.ko' with `.../ntfs.ko'
[19:54] <MrJigsaw> http://peecee.dk/upload/view/97272/full
[19:55] <jussi01> sebastian_: ok. try in terminal: sudo apt-get install -f
[19:56] <sebastian_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[19:56] <sebastian_>  runit
[19:56] <sebastian_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1
[19:56] <bmk789> kmail has a message stuck in the inbox that i cant delete, how should i get rid of it?
[19:56] <jussi01> sebastian_: how did you try to install runit ?
[19:58] <sebastian_> i havent installed it, i dont even know what it is
[20:00] <sluzba> please, can you help me?
[20:00] <sebastian_> jussi01, what can i do?
[20:00] <jussi01> sluzba: what do you need
[20:00] <epsilorn> hi all!! Fairly new to Kubuntu, i'm trying to install latest alsa building the .deb but I've got this problem: could not find any packages for libasound.so.2
[20:00] <jussi01> sebastian_: wait until someone who knows comes? try posting on ubuntuforums.org?
[20:01] <sebastian_> what is the problem with the install then?
[20:01] <jussi01> epsilorn: 32bit install?
[20:01] <epsilorn> the problem is that when i do the debuild binary command it doesn't find that file (i tihink) but i have libasound installed so...
[20:01] <nhyu>  For some reason there are certain apps in gnome that won't work .... or lag.... kinda like they not refresh when I run them. When I combine Rhythmbox with Amsn, this happens... they get white with borders but no content. I installed KDE recentlly, has this something to do. Is there a way to reset gnome?
[20:02] <jussi01> epsilorn: got libasound2 installed?
[20:02] <epsilorn> yes 32bit
[20:02] <sebastian_> jussi01, what is the problem with the installation?
[20:02] <epsilorn> yes libasound2 installed that's what's strange
[20:03] <jussi01> sebastian_: I dont know. I suggest you be patient or google or post on the forums (or all 3)
[20:03] <jussi01> epsilorn: yeah, a little.
[20:04] <sebastian_> ok thx
[20:04] <jussi01> epsilorn: whats the reason you need the latest alsa
[20:04] <epsilorn> i downloaded the latest kernel headers and sound stopped working, so i thought.. well as i have to install it again why not downloading the latest version?
[20:05] <jussi01> epsilorn: out of curiosity, which sound card?
[20:05] <epsilorn> a part tha i have prbolems with headpphones jack not recognized
[20:05] <epsilorn> HDA Intel (i'm on laptop)
[20:06] <jussi01> !intelhda | epsilorn
[20:06] <ubotu> epsilorn: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[20:06] <nhyu> Is there a way to remove all those apps that came with KDE when I installed it from the repositories?
[20:06] <nhyu> In gnome
[20:06] <epsilorn> thanks i'll read this
[20:07] <sluzba> jussi01: please, how can i repair this:? cp: will not overwrite just-created `.../ntfs.ko' with `.../ntfs.ko'
[20:08] <jussi01> sluzba: what did you do to cause that?
[20:08] <jussi01> sluzba: were you installing something?
[20:08] <MrJigsaw> Anyone can help me with this: http://peecee.dk/upload/view/97272/full ??
[20:12] <sluzba> jussi01: i am installing openwrt-midge, and during copy of modules, it is happend
[20:13] <Lynoure> MrJigsaw: you could tempt more people to look at it by providing a summary... and more context to those who look... Is there a disk with label Storage?
[20:13] <jussi01> sluzba: Im not sure on that one sorry
[20:13] <MrJigsaw> Lynoure: nope.. i have one with label Storage Area
[20:15] <Lynoure> MrJigsaw: that could explain it then, if you have stuff in fstab for just Storage   (not sure how well fstab deals with names with whitespace)
[20:15] <jussi01> MrJigsaw: ahh, maybe try adding a \ after storage
[20:16] <jussi01> ie. Storage\ Area
[20:17] <jussi01> MrJigsaw: or removing the space from the name
[20:22] <thomas_newbie__> anyone know how to start arpd?
[20:24] <jussi01> thomas_newbie__: exactly what is arpd?
[20:24] <oloughlin75> Is there a way to fix my files if amarok currupted them?
[20:24] <MrJigsaw> Omigod..
[20:24] <MrJigsaw> Why cant i just mount that stupid harddrive..
[20:24] <MrJigsaw> Keeps comming up with new fails..
[20:24] <jussi01> MrJigsaw: what now?
[20:24] <thomas_newbie__> jussi01: ARP Daemon
[20:25] <MrJigsaw> jussi01: im trying to enable and mount a harddrive, but it just WONT work..
[20:25] <ashmaus> how do I "unlock" a folder?
[20:25] <jussi01> MrJigsaw: yeah, I know. what is the error now
[20:28] <MrJigsaw> Uploading picture, 2 secs.
[20:28] <oloughlin75> Whats the program for widgets called? Like karamba or something?
[20:28] <jussi01> !info superkaramba
[20:28] <ubotu> superkaramba (source: kdeutils): a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 533 kB, installed size 1424 kB
[20:28] <ziut3k> i dont know
[20:28] <ziut3k> use kde or gnome ?
[20:29] <ashmaus> Or how do I change the permissions of a folder?
[20:30] <oloughlin75> right click -> propeties -> permissions
[20:30] <jussi01> !permissions
[20:30] <ubotu> An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[20:31] <MrJigsaw> jussi01: http://peecee.dk/upload/view/97284 <- Thats whats happening now.. :(
[20:31] <ashmaus> it says only the owner can change permissions. They were created by an install program
[20:31] <ziut3k> kurwa
[20:31] <Cambridge> ,
[20:31] <ziut3k> ja pierdole
[20:31] <oloughlin75> !adeptfix
[20:31] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[20:31] <jussi01> MrJigsaw: Im off to bed. hopefully someone else can help
[20:31] <jussi01> !en | ziut3k
[20:31] <ubotu> ziut3k: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[20:32] <ziut3k> ^^
[20:32] <MrJigsaw> Can anyone help whit this.. Im trying to mount/enable (dno wtf its doing) a harddrive, and i get this message: http://peecee.dk/upload/view/97284
[20:35] <yakuzi> does anyone know how to add an option to the right-click menu you got when you right clck on our desktop?
[20:37] <pietjephuck> Question; is the rss feed likly to be fixed?
[20:37] <pietjephuck> oops
[20:37] <pietjephuck> wrong channel
[20:37] <Arwen> has a patch been fixed for that local root exploit?
[20:37] <oloughlin75> where does superkaramba keep its widgets?
[20:37] <Arwen> been released*
[20:39] <nodesert> how can ı generate source.list:
[20:42] <delirious1> hi
[20:45] <delirious1> im drinking beer
[20:45] <delirious1> i woke up
[20:45] <delirious1> i was going to bed early tonight
[20:45] <delirious1> and then poff out of dream world
[20:46] <delirious1> it was a dream about hotdogs, but i didnt eat one when i woke up
[20:46] <delirious1> i decided to drink beer instead
[20:46] <delirious1> and this is a good idea
[20:46] <delirious1> right?
[20:46] <mattelacchiato> hi everyone
[20:46] <delirious1> hi
[20:46] <delirious1> what s up?
[20:47] <mattelacchiato> oh, actually i try to execute a command if i plug in an harddrive. but i don't know how :-)
[20:47] <yakuzi> problem solved, no need for answer anymore
[20:48] <delirious1> execucution sounds like a n idea
[20:48] <mattelacchiato> i don't understand, delirious1
[20:50] <delirious1> it was nothing sorrry
[20:50] <pietjephuck> delirious1: execurtion is nothing?
[20:50] <pietjephuck> delirious1: execution is nothing?
[20:51] <pietjephuck> I need a spell checker :(
[20:51] <mattelacchiato> useless for an irc-chat, pietjephuck
[20:51] <oloughlin75> !autostart
[20:51] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[20:51] <pietjephuck> mattelacchiato: lol
[20:52] <MrJigsaw> Can anyone help whit this.. Im trying to mount/enable (dno wtf its doing) a harddrive, and i get this message: http://peecee.dk/upload/view/97284
[20:53] <mefisto__> Konversation question: can I set it up to autoconnect on startup (instead of displaying the server list and waiting for input)?
[20:53] <oloughlin75> yes
[20:54] <nosrednaekim> mefisto__➜ yeah
[20:54] <mefisto__> nevermind, think I got it
[20:55] <oloughlin75> mefisto__: Get it?
[20:55] <mattelacchiato> MrJigsaw: There seems to be no disk with the labe "Storage"
[20:55] <mefisto__> oloughlin75: yep
[20:56] <oloughlin75> What is a program to make fractals?
[20:56] <unagi> gimp
[20:56] <unagi> why cant i have the right resolution anymore, this doesnt make a lick of sense
[20:56] <MrJigsaw> mattelacchiato: what do i have to do then ?
[20:57] <mattelacchiato> have you edited the /etc/fstab by your own?
[20:57] <MrJigsaw> Nope
[20:57] <mefisto__> why don't they use the kubuntu logo in kmenu by default? That K with the gears is so ugly
[20:58] <nosrednaekim> mefisto__➜ you mean on the side?
[20:58] <mefisto__> nosrednaekim: the icon on the button that pops up the menu
[20:58] <MrJigsaw> mattelacchiato: so you have a sugestion what i should do ? :)
[20:59] <nosrednaekim> mefisto__➜ oh..... in kde4?
[20:59] <mefisto__> nosrednaekim: gutsy (and all previous). I don't remember what kde4 kubuntu looks like
[21:00] <nosrednaekim> mefisto__➜ ah ok, well you can replace that image with another one if you would like/
[21:00] <mattelacchiato> what have you tried before to make it run, MrJigsaw
[21:00] <mattelacchiato> ?
[21:00] <arcticpenguin380> why does adept crash when trying to find the fastest mirror
[21:01] <MrJigsaw> Just tried alot of names and mount pointes at stuff.
[21:01] <mefisto__> nosrednaekim: yes I usually do, but sometimes updates overwrite the change and go back to the ugly non-kubuntu kde default
[21:02] <nosrednaekim> mefisto__➜ right <_<
[21:02] <mefisto__> nosrednaekim: actually I don't even use kmenu any more. :) tasty menu replaced it
[21:02] <MrJigsaw> mattelacchiato: can you tell me what i should write in 'Mount Point' and 'by label' to make it work? :/
[21:03] <unagi> can someone help me get ubuntu to display 1440 x 900
[21:03] <nosrednaekim> mefisto__➜ heh..... well, that works
[21:03] <mattelacchiato> MrJigsaw: Mountpoint is the dir, where the diskentries should appear. "by label" is the name of the disk-label
[21:03] <sub[t]rnl> MrJigsaw➜ you understand that Mount Point is a destination right?  as in, the actual (real) directory where the device should be mounted at
[21:04] <MrJigsaw> Where can i get the name of disk label ?
[21:04] <MrJigsaw> Yes sub[t]rnl i get that..
[21:04] <mattelacchiato> MrJigsaw: "vol_id <device-file>"
[21:05] <MrJigsaw> More specifik please.. im new to linux :)
[21:05] <mattelacchiato> MrJigsaw: You know, that all your devices can be found in /dev?
[21:05] <mattelacchiato> hmkay
[21:05] <mefisto__> unagi: I had a screen res problem, for about a week I tried to get 1280x1024 to stick. the solution for me was to add >> Option "PreferredMode"  "1280x1024" << in the monitor section of xorg.conf
[21:06] <mattelacchiato> so just open a terminal and run "sudo fdisk -l"
[21:06] <MrJigsaw> done
[21:06] <mattelacchiato> there you see all your partitions
[21:06] <MrJigsaw> yes
[21:06] <mattelacchiato> can you figure out, which one of them is your disk you want to mount?
[21:07] <MrJigsaw> ye i think so..
[21:07] <MrJigsaw> ive been givin in mount point /media/sdc and theres one with that :)
[21:07] <MrJigsaw> well /dev/sdc it is ;/
[21:08] <mattelacchiato>  /dev/sdc is the filename of the whole disk. but you need the filename of the partition
[21:08] <mattelacchiato> e.g. /dev/sdc1
[21:09] <mattelacchiato> you can see the filenames in the output from "sudo fdisk -l"
[21:09] <MrJigsaw> Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[21:09] <MrJigsaw> /dev/sdb1   *           1       60801   488384001    7
[21:09] <MrJigsaw>  HPFS/NTFS -
[21:09] <MrJigsaw>  Disk /dev/sdc: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
[21:09] <MrJigsaw> uhm.. i think thats it ?
[21:10] <sub[t]rnl> it gets even easier if you just use system settings -> advanced -> disk & filesystem.  It will have a graphical representation of 	sudo fdisk -l	 with point and click options..
[21:10] <mattelacchiato> that's the whole disk
[21:11] <mattelacchiato> ah, okay. i'm not so well schooled in the graphical configuration... :-)
[21:11] <sub[t]rnl> cli is all i use, but its nice to recommend the gui for the newer guys, specially when its so nicely laid out. :D
[21:11] <mefisto__> sub[t]rnl: but that particular dialog doesn't always work predictably
[21:12] <MrJigsaw-> damn.. i think my client at kubuntu froze
[21:12] <mattelacchiato> goodbye...
[21:12] <ciprian> hy
[21:12] <MrJigsaw-> mattelacchiato, so did you say anything while i was gone ?
[21:12] <MrJigsaw-> Damn :|
[21:12] <MrJigsaw-> Stupid harddisk and mounting :(((((
[21:13] <ciprian> could someone help me with a problem regarding compiling gammu with kmobiletools?
[21:13] <sub[t]rnl> ciprian➜ ask away
[21:13] <MrJigsaw-> sub[t]rnl,  do you have any solution ? :/
[21:13] <mefisto__> MrJigsaw-: yeah, mounting could be more automated and easier
[21:13] <stratman4300> mrjigsaw: what is the type of filesystem on the hard drive your trying to mount???
[21:14] <sov3d> hi!
[21:15] <MrJigsaw-> stratman4300,  its ntfs
[21:15]  * Cap is away: Gone away for now.
[21:16] <|MrJigsaw|> mefisto__: how to then ?
[21:16] <sub[t]rnl> read up on fstab
[21:16] <|MrJigsaw|> Ive been trying for hours in System Settings -> Advanced -> Disks And Filesystems  :|
[21:16] <ciprian> i get the following error message: http://www.kmobiletools.org/uieforum?c=showthread&ThreadID=32
[21:16] <stratman4300> Mrjigsaw in the command line try sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/(your hard drive and partition here) /(path to the place you want to mount it to)
[21:17] <|MrJigsaw|> How do i find partitation name i guess? :S
[21:18] <stratman4300> is it /dev/sdb1??
[21:18] <|MrJigsaw|> Yes
[21:18] <|MrJigsaw|> device @ disks and filesystem right ?
[21:18] <stratman4300> let's say you want to mount it to /home/mrjigsaw/newHD....   you would run this command  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /home/mrjigsaw/newHD
[21:19] <stratman4300> mrjigsaw: you would run that in konsole
[21:19] <|MrJigsaw|> i get that..
[21:19] <|MrJigsaw|> fuse: failed to access mountpoint /home/mrjigsaw/newHD: No such file or directory <-
[21:20] <sub[t]rnl> ciprian➜ you see the error message right, where its looking for 'data'?
[21:20] <mefisto__> |MrJigsaw|: you have to create the directory you are mounting to first, if it doesn't exist
[21:20] <stratman4300> mrjigsaw: ohh   you have to make that folder first..    mkdir /home/mrjigsaw/newHD
[21:20] <|MrJigsaw|> Seems like it went trough
[21:20] <ciprian> yes
[21:20] <stratman4300> now navigate to that folder and see if your files are there
[21:21] <sub[t]rnl> ciprian➜ Replace "data()" with "latin1()" in that line.
[21:21] <|MrJigsaw|> Yeeeees!! stratman4300 youre my hero <3
[21:21] <|MrJigsaw|> Let me send you a virtual beer ;P
[21:21] <stratman4300> LOL....  cheers then....
[21:21] <stratman4300> glad it worked
[21:21] <nosrednaekim> !helpersnack | stratman4300
[21:21] <ubotu> stratman4300: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[21:21] <mefisto__> |MrJigsaw|: normally you would mount disks in /media eg, /media/windows or /media/sdb1 or whatever you want it to be
[21:21] <nosrednaekim> s/cookie/beer
[21:21] <|MrJigsaw|> Yes..
[21:21] <|MrJigsaw|> mefisto__: i think im going to now :>
[21:21] <ciprian> i`ll try right now
[21:22] <sub[t]rnl> ciprian➜ okies
[21:22] <stratman4300> mrjigsaw: yup i was just using that folder as an example but you can mount them anywhere you like with that command
[21:22] <mefisto__> |MrJigsaw|: mounting that way is not permanent. next reboot, you would need to do the mount command again
[21:22] <|MrJigsaw|> I think actually ill leave it for now.. dont wanna fuck it more up rigt now :P
[21:22] <|MrJigsaw|> hmm..
[21:22] <|MrJigsaw|> mefisto__: how do i make it permanent then? :/
[21:22] <blizzzek> gn8
[21:22] <stratman4300> mrjigsaw: the command to unmount is sudo umount /dev/sdb1
[21:23] <stevarino> hi all, i just installed kubuntu (switching from plain ubuntu) and am wondering if there is a starter guide available? also it seems there are no repositories stored in my system :\
[21:23] <mefisto__> |MrJigsaw|: you need to add a line in /etc/fstab file
[21:23] <mefisto__> mine has this: /dev/sdb1 /media/hdb1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_AU.UTF-8 0 0
[21:24] <|MrJigsaw|> damn..
 <mountpoint> <filesystemtype> <options>
[21:24] <|MrJigsaw|> How can i see if my other harddrives is mounted ?
[21:24] <sub[t]rnl> df -h, or mount
[21:24] <stratman4300> mrjigsaw: run this command to open that file in a text editer kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[21:24] <sub[t]rnl> kdesu? is he on feisty or earlier?
[21:25] <|MrJigsaw|> Gnutsy i believe its called
[21:25] <|MrJigsaw|> or just 7.10 ?
[21:25] <stratman4300> ehh...  don't know....  it's what i've always used  :|  is there a newer way???
[21:25] <sub[t]rnl> gnutsy, lol, good name
[21:25] <sub[t]rnl> !kdesu
[21:25] <ubotu> In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[21:25] <stratman4300> lol
[21:25] <nosrednaekim> sub[t]rnl➜ kdesu is now symlinked to kdesudo
[21:25] <mefisto__> sub[t]rnl: kdesu links to kdesudo, so kdesu will work anyway
[21:26] <sub[t]rnl> nosrednaekim➜ ahh, nice
[21:26] <|MrJigsaw|> uhm
[21:26] <|MrJigsaw|> dosent work for me
[21:26] <sub[t]rnl> hehe
[21:27] <|MrJigsaw|> kdesu: cannot connect to X server :0
[21:27] <stratman4300> try kdesudo kate /etc/fstab then
[21:27] <|MrJigsaw|> Xlib: No protocol specified - kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[21:27] <nosrednaekim> works for me.....
[21:27] <sub[t]rnl> what was his mount point?
[21:27] <sub[t]rnl> and device name?
[21:27] <|MrJigsaw|> Im getting the same error
[21:28] <stratman4300> sub[t]rnl: his device was /dev/sd1
[21:28] <stratman4300> sub[t]rnl: his device was /dev/sdb1
[21:28] <|MrJigsaw|> Mount Point i think was /mrjigsaw/home/newHD/ :|
[21:28] <mefisto__> |MrJigsaw|: I recommend making the mountpoint in /media
[21:28] <stratman4300> mrjigsaw: is that where you want to permanetly mount it??
[21:29] <stratman4300> mefisto__: agreed
[21:29] <sub[t]rnl> |MrJigsaw|➜ do this 	echo "/dev/sdb1 /mrjigsaw/home/newHD ntfs-3g defaults 0 0" |sudo tee -a /etc/fstab
[21:29] <nosrednaekim> sub[t]rnl➜ sudo
[21:29] <|MrJigsaw|> stratman4300:  nope
[21:29] <ciprian> sub[t]rnl, sorry to bothering again, but now i got this: " const class QString' has no member named 'latin' "
[21:29] <nosrednaekim> sub[t]rnl➜ oh... wait...
[21:29] <|MrJigsaw|> i would like to lay it in media with my other drives..
[21:29] <sub[t]rnl> nosrednaekim➜ hehe :>
[21:30] <ubuntu_> hi
[21:30] <sub[t]rnl> ciprian➜ not sure then, sorry
[21:30] <ubuntu_> ;fsdlgkf
[21:30] <ciprian> should i install some missing library or what?
[21:30] <ciprian> ok, thanks anyway
[21:30] <sub[t]rnl> ciprian➜ libraries are good, thats what ./configure checks
[21:30] <nosrednaekim> sub[t]rnl➜ meh >:(
[21:30] <|MrJigsaw|> What do i need to write in konsole to open a folder ?
[21:31] <ciprian> ok...thanks
[21:31] <stratman4300> mrjigsaw: cd /foldername
[21:31] <|MrJigsaw|> i wont it to open at my desktop stratman4300 :D
[21:31] <gundam_rx78nt1> how can I get lm-sensors display the temperature on my  superkaramba monitor in degrees Fahrenhiet?
[21:32] <stratman4300> mrjigsaw: you can also navigate to /home/mrjigsaw/newHD by pressing alt+f2 the typing /home/mrjigsaw/newHD
[21:32] <mefisto__> |MrJigsaw|: cd ~/Desktop
[21:32] <|MrJigsaw|> stratman4300: can i PM ? im getting really confused by all the difrent answers :]
[21:33] <mefisto__> |MrJigsaw|: sorry
[21:33] <stratman4300> mrjigsaw: i would but i've got to go soon.....  wish i could stay and help....  the others will get you up and running though ;)
[21:34] <|MrJigsaw|> all right..
[21:34] <stratman4300> sorry :|
[21:34] <cicero_123> hello room. how do i remount a drive that has an incorrect mount point?
[21:34] <Agent_bob> "bird atmospheric conditions" blew up my modem.
[21:34] <|MrJigsaw|> sudo unmount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /home/media/Storage_Area_II
[21:34] <Agent_bob> aka fowl weather
[21:34] <|MrJigsaw|> uhm damn
[21:34] <nosrednaekim> cicero_123➜ unmount it first
[21:35] <cicero_123> keen
[21:35] <cicero_123> thanx
[21:35] <|MrJigsaw|> how unmount the newHD i just made ?
[21:35] <gundam_rx78nt1> how can I get lm-sensors display the temperature on my  superkaramba monitor in degrees Fahrenhiet?
[21:35] <stratman4300> mrjigsaw: sudo umount /dev/sdb1
[21:35] <|MrJigsaw|> how do i*
[21:35] <Agent_bob> |MrJigsaw| umount
[21:35] <mefisto__> |MrJigsaw|: sudo umount /mountpoint
[21:35] <Agent_bob> mountpoint or device
[21:36] <|MrJigsaw|> And then:  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /media/Storage_Area_II or? :D
[21:36] <cicero_123> for some reason it has a mountpoint that is <mountpoint> instead of being in the /etc/media file like the others
[21:36] <mefisto__> |MrJigsaw|: did you do that change to /etc/fstab ?
[21:36] <Agent_bob> !ntfs-3g | |MrJigsaw|
[21:36] <ubotu> |MrJigsaw|: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[21:36] <|MrJigsaw|> nope mefisto__, i cant really make it work
[21:37] <nosrednaekim> cicero_123➜ noting is ever mounted to /etc.... at least it shouldn't be
[21:37] <|MrJigsaw|> well mefisto__ i would like to mount my devices to media first
[21:37] <cicero_123> |MrJigsaw|: yeah. i was very tired and it was my first time at linux. i think i really goofed.
[21:38] <mefisto__>  echo "/dev/sdb1 /mrjigsaw/home/newHD ntfs-3g defaults 0 0" |sudo tee -a /etc/fstab
[21:38] <mefisto__> |MrJigsaw|: that will add the line to fstab
[21:38] <cicero_123> linux acts like my cd rom is a hd and the hd that i store all my files shows as an icon but cant be found
[21:38] <mefisto__> |MrJigsaw|: then you can just "sudo mount -a" and it should mount whatever you have in fstab
[21:39] <cicero_123> |MrJigsaw|:  i will try the sudo mout -a.
[21:39] <|MrJigsaw|> i just did that
[21:40] <|MrJigsaw|> But how can i check if i mounted the drives as i should ?
[21:40] <Agent_bob> mount
[21:40] <cicero_123> is confused.
[21:41] <Agent_bob> mount <<< will list what's mounted where and how
[21:41]  * cicero_123 goes to the corner... and has some coffee...
[21:41] <nosrednaekim> cicero_123➜ |MrJigsaw| is not trying to help you.... he has his own problem which is similar to yours
[21:41] <nosrednaekim> cicero_123➜ but we are trying to help both of you, which can get confusing :)
[21:42] <mefisto__> and probably too many voices trying to help is confusing to :P
[21:42] <cicero_123> sorry. sometimes when i wake up, i dont quite overcome the pain, and dont focus very well. (chronic pain from a car wreck--but i am moblie and my brain works a lot of the time... :)
[21:42] <sub[t]rnl> though quite entertaining...
[21:42]  * sub[t]rnl sips coffee
[21:43] <mefisto__> his pain entertains you?
[21:43] <Agent_bob> pain != frustration
[21:43] <sub[t]rnl> heh
[21:43] <|MrJigsaw|> hmm..
[21:43] <|MrJigsaw|> i just hope theyre all mounted now ;|
[21:43] <sub[t]rnl> Agent_bob➜ remember when I was trying to capture $5 through $9 and we put together the $@ | cut?
[21:44] <sub[t]rnl> Agent_bob➜ i forgot all about 	shift	.. shift 4
[21:44] <Agent_bob> sub[t]rnl don't tell me i did that.     shift 4 ;blah="$*"
[21:44] <sub[t]rnl> bam
[21:45] <MrJigsaw> uhm one more question. i need to put acpi=off and noapic in grub boot manager thingy, how do i do it ?
[21:45] <Agent_bob> but like i said yestergo the cleanest is still probably an array   seeing that you lose nothing that way
[21:45] <sub[t]rnl> in your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:45] <MrJigsaw> my kubuntu wont boot up if i dont have those in it....
[21:45] <sub[t]rnl> Agent_bob➜ aye
[21:45] <MrJigsaw> sub[t]rnl:  i get that.. but where in it.. :/ ?
[21:46] <sub[t]rnl> in your kernel boot line
[21:46] <sub[t]rnl> do 	grep ^kernel /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:46] <sub[t]rnl> so you know what the line looks like
[21:46] <Agent_bob> sub[t]rnl and i did think of shift yestergo,  but "bird atmoshperic conditions" shot my  modem.   down until just a little while ago
[21:47] <sub[t]rnl> Agent_bob➜ ugh
[21:47] <MrJigsaw> sub[t]rnl: should i do the same as when i boot normally. seperate them with '--' ?
[21:47] <mefisto__> if you also put it in the line: # defoptions=    it will keep that setting when upgrades happen too
[21:48] <gundam_rx78nt1> !pastebin
[21:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[21:48]  * Arwen is listening to Captain Planet Opening Theme by Phil Collins on Captain Planet [Amarok]
[21:48]  * nosrednaekim is listening to You're Pitiful by "Weird Al" Yankovic on Poodle Hat [Amarok]
[21:48]  * sub[t]rnl face palms
[21:48] <MrJigsaw> it says i aint got the right to edit in menu.lst
[21:49] <Agent_bob> root does
[21:49] <nosrednaekim> MrJigsaw➜ kdesudo
[21:49] <mefisto__> MrJigsaw: sudo at the start of the command
[21:49] <MrJigsaw> How do i make kate root? :D
[21:49] <MrJigsaw> Im logged in as root mefisto__
[21:49] <Agent_bob> kdesu kate
[21:49] <nosrednaekim> answered before you asked... beat that everyone ^_^
[21:49] <Agent_bob> you are logged in as root ?      don't
[21:50] <sub[t]rnl> +1 nosrednaekim
[21:50] <MrJigsaw> Yes i am..
[21:50] <MrJigsaw> + i cant use kdesu kate
[21:50] <MrJigsaw> it gives me errors
[21:50] <mefisto__> are you sure you're logged in as root?
[21:50] <MrJigsaw> 100%
[21:50] <gundam_rx78nt1> I got an nvidia 7600 graphics card installed.  I installed the restricted drivers but my card on the glx screen savers starts to become choppy.
[21:50] <MrJigsaw> in konsole i am
[21:50] <gundam_rx78nt1> I ran glxgears and here is my output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55795/
[21:50] <nosrednaekim> MrJigsaw➜ well, log out, you can't run graphical apps from a root konsole
[21:50] <MrJigsaw> su root
[21:50] <gundam_rx78nt1> can someone help?>
[21:50] <MrJigsaw> how do i log out ?
[21:50] <Agent_bob> that's not logged in.
[21:51] <sub[t]rnl> exit
[21:51] <BluesKaj> this may be off topic but it soon won't be . I hope Linux is ready for these new drives http://www.techspot.com/news/28984-Panasonic-announces-ship-date-for-32GB-SDHC-card.html
[21:51] <Agent_bob> that's a root shell in a terminal.     != login
[21:51] <nosrednaekim> gundam_rx78nt1➜ glxinfo would be a bit more useful...
[21:51] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj➜ why wouldn't it be?
[21:51] <MrJigsaw> Okay Agent_bob...
[21:52] <MrJigsaw> it still wont let me edit in menu.lst ;S
[21:53] <Agent_bob> MrJigsaw also you should never use plain su    use   su -     because it makes it the equievelant of a root login shell   i.e. full root environment.       sudo -i   is the same as  sudo su -
[21:53] <flipstar> hi all, how can i clone my root partition? is 'cp -r -p' enough ?
[21:53] <gundam_rx78nt1> nosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55796/ here is the output of glxinfo.
[21:54] <Agent_bob> flipstar not unless they have fixed some bugs in cp   cp -a --one-file-system
[21:55] <nosrednaekim> gundam_rx78nt1➜ thaks
[21:55] <Agent_bob> flipstar i like tar better though.
[21:56] <flipstar> Agent_bob: so 'cp -a --one-file-system' is the right option for that ?
[21:56] <Agent_bob> flipstar yeah.  also if it's a bite for bite clone.   dd if=/dev/hda1 of=location_of_clone
[21:56] <flipstar> theres no need for tar since it goes directly from on disc to antother :)
[21:57] <gundam_rx78nt1> is that big update push that was released last night break anything?  I want to know before I accept the changes...
[21:57] <flipstar> great thx Agent_bob
[21:57] <Agent_bob> flipstar np
[21:57] <nosrednaekim> gundam_rx78nt1➜ that looks good...
[21:58]  * cicero_123 meanders back  into the fray after some coffee... i guess using dolphin in root to tinker around isnt a good thing... my cd rom wont respond and hdc1 has a mountpoint called <mountpoint> that doesnt exist on the disk and the fs type is set to auto, but cant mount. how do i undo the damage?
[21:58] <Agent_bob> flipstar note that hda1 is example only.   can be whole disk if they are the same size  or partition or what ever.
[21:58] <sourcemaker> I have removed vmware-player and now installed vmware-server... Module vmnet is not loaded.  Please verify that it is loaded beforerunning this script.
[21:59] <sourcemaker> what's wrong?
[21:59] <gundam_rx78nt1> noserednaekim: so what should I do?  Remove the drivers and install them manually after I remove all config files?
[21:59] <nosrednaekim> cicero_123➜ change that <mountoint> to /media/hdc1
[21:59] <flipstar> yes i know that, thanks anyway Agent_bob .. btw it also copies permissions and sow ?
[21:59] <nosrednaekim> gundam_rx78nt1➜ no... that won;t do any good, thats as good of results you are going to be getting.
[21:59] <cicero_123> nosrednaekim: k. what is the command?
[21:59] <gundam_rx78nt1> sourcemaker: the problem is with one of the files for the vmnet module.
[22:00] <gundam_rx78nt1> I found the fix for it on the vmware website.
[22:00] <Agent_bob> flipstar dd is bite for bite.    cp -a is copy and preserve links and owner/perms
[22:00] <Agent_bob> flipstar tar will preserve links and perms too
[22:00] <mefisto__> cicero_123: kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[22:00] <nosrednaekim> cicero_123➜ uhh where is it saying the <mountpoint> stuff?
[22:01] <cicero_123> in kinfo
[22:01] <nosrednaekim> mefisto__➜ please... i'm handling him....no need giving confusing commands...
[22:01] <gundam_rx78nt1> nosrednaekim: I had it working smoothly up until I updated some stuff.
[22:01] <||arifaX> anytime I use aticonfig --swap-monitor on my big desktop I get an exception error. is this a known problem?
[22:01] <nosrednaekim> cicero_123➜ go to systemsettings->advanced->disks and partioning and change it there
[22:01] <Agent_bob> what dd does that cp and tar dont do is copy free space and system inodes
[22:01] <Agent_bob> @ flipstar
[22:02] <flipstar> hm no need for that..i'll use cp -a then :)
[22:02] <Agent_bob> system inodes = superblocks file allocation tables mbr's etc...
[22:03] <Agent_bob> flipstar yeah cp -a --one-file-system /source /destination
[22:03] <flipstar> guess it will also work when i chroot and update grub ..
[22:03] <gundam_rx78nt1> be back later on.  Got to take care of the pooch.
[22:03] <manuel__> could somebody help me please, i get my laptop frozen randomly on kde
[22:04] <manuel__> when i open my laptop, it shows a message saying "laptop lid is closed nothing to do"
[22:04] <blekos> hello,i mad a back with tar, and when i tried to restore from tar  after it made a few extractions I got a message something like "extract denied"
[22:04] <Agent_bob> flipstar if you plan on booting the new location you'll have to update the boot loader and the fstab
[22:05] <manuel__> have someone had a simular problem???
[22:06] <flipstar> yes .. know that .. thx Agent_bob
[22:06] <nosrednaekim> blekos➜ did you tar it with sudo?
[22:06] <Agent_bob> manuel__ lid switch issues.   yes manuel__.  but i don't have a fix for you.
[22:12] <MrJigsaw> How come when i try to delete files, it just opens progress dialog and stays at 0%
[22:12] <vscott> Can anyone help me with setting up my proftpd
[22:13] <vscott> I am getting rejected by my other server
[22:13] <blekos> yes
[22:13] <nosrednaekim> MrJigsaw➜ how big are the files?
[22:14] <blekos> i had done sudo su
[22:14] <nosrednaekim> blekos➜ then untar with sudo
[22:14] <blekos> but when i copy it back to my system i had sudo su again
[22:14] <vscott> Can someone help with proftpd
[22:17] <cicero_123>  woohoo! it worked
[22:17] <Arwen> is it normal for KNetworkManager to say "no connection"?
[22:18] <nosrednaekim> Arwen➜anything can happen to knetworkmanager;)
[22:18] <Arwen> heh
[22:18] <Arwen> can I turn it off? seems like a waste if I only use Ethernet
[22:19] <cicero_123> nosrednaekim: thanx. :) i appreciate the help.
[22:19] <nosrednaekim> cicero_123➜ glad that worked
[22:19] <nosrednaekim> Arwen➜ sure, right click, quit, and tell it not to start again
[22:19] <Arwen> ok
[22:19] <cicero_123> nosrednaekim: now all i have to do is figure out how to restore the cd-rom.
[22:20] <Arwen> and that speaker icon for kmix is really ugly :-)
[22:22] <Radly> Barack Obama voted FOR the Patriot Act, more funding for America's aggression in Iraq, and every increased spending measure he could get his lying articulate hands on. Hmmm lets add some more contradictions and exposed lies...... In the NH debate, he called for going into Pakistan. In many speaches he has advocated going into Africa for peacekeeping. (Sounds like that would be worse than Vietnam!)
[22:22] <Radly> Oh yeah!!! THAT WILL REALLY HEAL AMERICA. Keep on believing it Obamatards. You all will be sorry, as Barack Hussein Obama is no better than Clinton or Edwards.
[22:24] <hola> sameones know how to convert dvd5 in divx
[22:24] <nosrednaekim> !ops
[22:24] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, Tm_T, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild or jussi01!
[22:24] <nosrednaekim> !transcode | hola
[22:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about transcode - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:24] <Arwen> Obama? bah, it's all about Ron Paul. That aside, transcode isn't the greatest tool.
[22:25] <hola> nosrednaekim: ?
[22:25] <nosrednaekim> yeah... thought there was a little bot-bite about that
[22:25] <Arwen> hola, to DivX? You want DivX Linux Edition (somewhere on divx.com)
[22:25] <Arwen> you probably need to decode to uncompressed video using ffmpeg or something first
[22:25] <vscott> Anyone know how to fix socket operation fatel errors
[22:26] <hola> Arwen: yes, i would like to onvert dvd into divx
[22:26] <Arwen> you need http://labs.divx.com/DivXLinuxCodec
[22:26] <Arwen> instructions should be on the page
[22:27] <Ryu010> hello?
[22:28] <nosrednaekim> hey Ryu010
[22:28] <Arwen> !hello
[22:28] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[22:29] <Ryu010> hows it going in here?
[22:29] <mefisto__> Arwen: what do you not like about transcode? what do you use instead? mencoder?
[22:30] <nosrednaekim> Ryu010➜ good :)
[22:30] <Arwen> mefisto__, I use Windows for encoding because AviSynth only runs there. I dislike transcode because it's really just ffmpeg repackaged.
[22:31] <mefisto__> Arwen: so what's wrong with ffmpeg?
[22:31] <hola> Arwen: thk. is it only a codec or it it a program
[22:31] <Arwen> it's not AviSytnh
[22:31] <Arwen> hola, it's both
[22:31] <Arwen> mefisto__, very limited filtering
[22:32] <mefisto__> Arwen: you mean as in using filters when encoding?
[22:32] <Arwen> yes, like deinterlacing, overlays, splices, resizing, etc
[22:32] <Arwen> and it doesn't have AviSynth's scripting syntax
[22:33] <mefisto__> Arwen: sounds like you're quite used to avisynth
[22:33] <Arwen> it's the only video editor I'd ever consider using
[22:33] <mefisto__> lol
[22:35]  * mefisto__ is transcode-ing right now
[22:36] <Arwen> I also don't like transcode because it depends on GTK 1.2 for some reason
[22:36] <blekos> the message i get from tar is tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[22:38] <twosouls82> how do I preserve file permissions for files from /etc/skel?
[22:39] <arcticpenguin380> did i make a mistake switching to JFS
[22:39] <crimsun> twosouls82: how are you transferring them?  Permissions should be preserved.  Do you have a non-standard umask?
[22:39] <hola> Arwen: sorry...have you tried it?
[22:40] <Arwen> hola, nope. I just know that's the only DivX encoder on Linux.
[22:40] <hola> Arwen: i sked you that becouse i jasted installed it but i dont knoew how to lunch the programm
[22:40] <twosouls82> crimsun: I made the files in there more secure and added some more defaults for our foundation, the /etc/skel has been copied by using systemsettings
[22:41] <Arwen> try typing "divx --help" into a console
[22:41] <twosouls82> and I haven't changed the umask
[22:41] <hola> Arwen: i tried but it does not exist
[22:41] <Arwen> one sec
[22:42] <crimsun> twosouls82: I don't know systemsettings well (or very much at all); check its implementation.
[22:45] <twosouls82> even when I use "sudo useradd --create-home <username>" the file ownerships of the files from /etc/skel are not preserved
[22:46] <Arwen> hola, oh, I see. You have to write the encoder yourself >_>
[22:46] <twosouls82> seems logical to me btw
[22:46] <Arwen> lame, ah well...
[22:46] <twosouls82> but there must be a way to preserve it for specific files
[22:47] <nosrednaekim> twosouls82➜ if they were preserved, then you'd never own anything in your home DIR
[22:47] <nosrednaekim> since root is who copies them.
[22:47] <Arwen> hola, probably this is beyond your skill (it's beyond mine at least). Maybe I could interest you in XviD instead?
[22:48] <twosouls82> nosrednaekim: that's why I said "seems logical to me btw" =)
[22:48] <hola> Arwen: which are the differences
[22:48] <twosouls82> nosrednaekim: do you know how to preserve it for specific files?
[22:49] <nosrednaekim> twosouls82➜ nooo..... thats just slightly to hard-core for me :)
[22:49] <Arwen> hola, not much. XviD is a bit higher quality.
[22:49] <twosouls82> for me to, for now :)
[22:49] <twosouls82> too*
[22:51] <copacetic> twosouls82, write a script...?
[22:53] <yereth> wow KDE4 sucks
[22:53] <giovanni_home> what's kde4 like?
[22:54] <yereth> it's like.. nothing else really.. the desktop is bloated
[22:54] <yereth> less control than gnome even
[22:54] <hola> Arwen: ok....tell me so
[22:54] <yereth> kwin is much worse than compiz
[22:54] <ChaosMachine> is there any 4.0.1 live cds yet?
[22:54] <giovanni_home> what are desktop effects like?
[22:54] <yereth> the menu is just plain annoying
[22:54] <twosouls82> copacetic: I was thinking of that, and I am investigating where to refer to (execute) it.. in such a way that useradd and other applications that add users user it too
[22:55] <yereth> giovanni_home: desktop effects are so-so.. compiz for kde3 is much better
[22:55] <yereth> ChaosMachine: dunno.. but you can install kde4 alongside
[22:56] <giovanni_home> mah... it's a work in progress... I'll wait the next kubuntu version
[22:56] <giovanni_home> I'm comfortable with kde 3 right now
[22:56] <yereth> giovanni_home: it's work in progress yes, but since when is a full release rather some kind of a release candidate alpha alpha?
[22:56] <cicero_123> rehello room. :) where is the dvd-cd burner supposed to be mounted?
[22:57] <yereth> it's like: let's call it the final release.. maybe people will try it!
[22:57] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ yes,you can change the menu
[22:57] <cellofellow> hi. I hope I'm not unwelcome as an Ubuntu user with a non-GNOME-specific problem.
[22:57] <nosrednaekim> cicero_123➜ well, burners are not mounted
[22:57] <giovanni_home> yereth: they chose to release a final version so as to have more (beta)-tester
[22:57] <Arwen> hola, apt-get install mencoder + this guide (http://f0rked.com/projects/simplerip). It's crude, but about as good as you'll get.
[22:57] <yereth> nosrednaekim: well, I tried to change a bunch of stuff, but I got a black screen
[22:57] <nosrednaekim> cellofellow➜ depends on the problem
[22:58] <cicero_123> nosrednaekim: how do i active it?
[22:58] <yereth> giovanni_home: I know, but really, on the website they pretended it was amazing.. not even close
[22:58] <giovanni_home> but you are not forced to use it :) yereth
[22:58] <yereth> I know, I'm just worried for the future of KDE
[22:58] <oloughlin75> I am trying to get myswl working and am getting this error: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[22:58] <yereth> getting another gnome, but worse
[22:58] <cellofellow> nosrednaekim: I have some MP3 files that I've ripped and now I cannot tag them so my MP3 player can read the tags. It's rather picky about them for some reason. I've tried EasyTag and id3tag. None work. What's a better way?
[22:59] <cellofellow> It'd be nice if the tagger supports images.
[22:59] <giovanni_home> don't worry... it's gonna be better
[22:59] <nosrednaekim> cellofellow➜ no idea...
[22:59] <yereth> hope so
[22:59] <yereth> first, let the digikam fix the rotation of images in the viewer :P
[22:59] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ underneath, it is an amazing improvement
[22:59] <yereth> digikam team*
[22:59] <cellofellow> This players' one of those designed for Windows Media Player, so I blame M$ for my problems.
[23:00] <giovanni_home> however we should admin than windows vista is ahead as far as desktop effects are concerned
[23:00] <yereth> nosrednaekim: I'm sure.. what was the gui thing called again? something like QT
[23:00] <giovanni_home> we should admit, sorry
[23:00] <yereth> giovanni_home: ow come on, Vista is bloated and ugly
[23:00] <giovanni_home> ahah :)
[23:00]  * cellofellow agrees
[23:00] <yereth> OSX rules all
[23:00] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ yeah, they switched to qt4 form qt3
[23:00] <yereth> right
[23:00] <hola> Arwen: thaks ciao
[23:00] <yereth> that was it
[23:00]  * Arwen thinks desktop effects are silly
[23:00]  * cicero_123 pipes up--> bloated, ugly, and slowwwwww
[23:01] <yereth> Arwen: Apple invented *useful* desktop effects
[23:01] <giovanni_home> but they have desktop effects since a year ago... we have kde4 now, in beta state
[23:01] <yereth> such as getting an all window overview
[23:01] <Arwen> yereth, no such thing
[23:01] <dan> hi ;)
[23:01] <giovanni_home> OSX is not the right choice... it depends to closely on microsoftoz
[23:01] <Arwen> anything they've done with shiny 3d accel could be done in 2d too
[23:01] <dan> Need help with service menu menu
[23:01] <yereth> Arwen: get back to your console.. hit ctrl-alt-f1 I dare you and do everything from there :P
[23:02] <Arwen> I am... lol
[23:02] <Arwen> irssi in a screen
[23:02] <yereth> Arwen: I use irssi in a screen as well
[23:02] <yereth> Arwen: but also desktop apps
[23:02] <Arwen> no, but really, 3d acceleration is a bad idea at this point seeing as many chips (ATI!) are very unstable with 3d
[23:02] <miladen> Ey guys, how do i run a .deb file on my desktop?
[23:03] <Arwen> miladen, dpkg -i blah.deb
[23:03] <nosrednaekim> miladen➜ right click and tell it to install with gdebi
[23:03] <yereth> Arwen: you mean drivers suck?
[23:03] <Arwen> yeah
[23:03] <giovanni_home> miladen: deb file are meant to be installed, not executed
[23:03] <Arwen> a lot
[23:03] <yereth> Arwen: buy nvidia :)
[23:03] <Arwen> zzz, still proprietary
[23:03] <Arwen> and Intel = no games at all
[23:03] <yereth> but much better
[23:03] <copacetic> I make 3D graphics in a shell.
[23:03] <Arwen> :-P, nothing like directfb
[23:03] <yereth> join #freaks
[23:04] <giovanni_home> what's that shit of directfb copacetic
[23:04] <copacetic> No, I make it in Vi.
[23:05] <copacetic> I make movies in emacs though.
[23:05] <giovanni_home> I cook with emacs
[23:05] <yereth> lol
[23:05] <yereth> I cook emacs
[23:05] <giovanni_home> and watch porno movies
[23:05] <copacetic> emacs is very versatile.
[23:05] <yereth> but no one wants to eat it
[23:05] <miladen> is there an easy command telling it to install all needed packages or do i have to list them myself?
[23:06] <yereth> emacs > notepad
[23:06] <yereth> ;)
[23:06] <copacetic> sudo apt-get install *
[23:06] <yereth> lol
[23:06] <yereth> don't do that, miladen
[23:06] <dan> System menu menu, not service menu menu ;)
[23:06] <hydrogen> mm
[23:06] <giovanni_home> I'm not using emacs recently... I've switched to kate... and I use vi in console because is the fastest editor
[23:06] <copacetic> mary-kate?
[23:06] <yereth> kate is sexy
[23:06] <miladen> yereth what then?
[23:06] <hydrogen> I think installing the "emacs" package is equivilent to apt-get install *
[23:07] <yereth> miladen: needed packages for what?
[23:07] <copacetic> Haha @ hydrogen
[23:07] <cicero_123> how do i get my dvd/cd burner-player to play cd's?
[23:07] <miladen> i wanna install an app that requires 6 other packages ex.
[23:07] <yereth> cicero_123: insert them first
[23:07] <miladen> how do i get it to install all of them?
[23:07] <miladen> stuff like sun-java.jre
[23:07] <stevarino> hi, how can i install the nvidia drivers? everytime i run nvidia-xconfig i get a module nvidia not found error. i have nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel
[23:07] <copacetic> cicero_123, Put in a CD and fireup xmms.
[23:07] <giovanni_home> stevarino: try envy
[23:07] <yereth> miladen: just do apt-get install <needed-package> and it auto installs the rest
[23:08] <miladen> no it doesnt yereth
[23:08] <yereth> miladen: ah.. you can use automatix2 for stuff like java.. google for automatix
[23:08] <cicero_123> yes. i have. when i first installed linux (about 4 days now) i was fiddling around in root with dolphin, (which i now know is not a good thing) and now it doesnt play.
[23:08] <hydrogen> err
[23:08] <hydrogen> using automatix
[23:08] <hydrogen> will eat your babies
[23:08] <yereth> lol
[23:08] <giovanni_home> miladen: do apt-cache search <what you want> , then install the packages you want with sudo apt-get install
[23:08] <hydrogen> and kill your herds of cattle
[23:08] <yereth> hydrogen: you have a better suggeston?
[23:08] <copacetic> cicero_123, What does it do?
[23:08] <hydrogen> and probably destroy your crops
[23:09] <hydrogen> install java..?
[23:09] <copacetic> Does it give an error message?
[23:09] <copacetic> Volume?
[23:09] <copacetic> What?
[23:09] <giovanni_home> moreover automatix rapes your sister
[23:09] <nareshov> o_o
[23:09] <stevarino> giovanni_home: thanks, i thought envy was abandoned and unsafe, but it looks like i was wrong :)
[23:09] <yereth> what's directfb anyway?
[23:09] <copacetic> direct frame buffer
[23:10] <yereth> anyone using it?
[23:10] <giovanni_home> yereth: it's a useless piece of software
[23:10] <yereth> giovanni_home: sounds good
[23:10] <giovanni_home> ahaha
[23:10] <copacetic> yereth, To be honest, I don't even think the developers use it.
[23:10] <cicero_123> copacetic: the kde daemon comes up and asks what i want to do. open window, copy cd, or do nothing. if i type open window i get a permission denied
[23:10] <yereth> copacetic: so it's just for the nurd's enjoyment, lacking social life..?
[23:11] <oloughlin75> hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000?
[23:11] <cicero_123> yeah. sometimes if i try to open it in dolphin
[23:11] <copacetic> cicero_123, Learn how to use a console and sudo then. :D
[23:11] <yereth> dolphin sucks
[23:11] <giovanni_home> dolphin is good
[23:11] <giovanni_home> simpler than konqueroz
[23:11] <copacetic> Walrus > Dolphin
[23:12] <yereth> whale > walrus
[23:12] <stevarino> giovanni_home: do i need to install something to use deb's? ark is throwing errors at me
[23:12] <copacetic> pwnt
[23:12] <cicero_123> i am learning. this is my 5th day with linux/kubunt
[23:12] <yereth> ;)
[23:12] <cicero_123> u
[23:12] <giovanni_home> konqueroz is getting bad... it doesn't open correctly a lot of websites
[23:12] <nareshov> stevarino: use "ar"
[23:12] <copacetic> stevarino, sudo dpkg -i blahblah.deb
[23:12] <giovanni_home> stevarino: to use what?
[23:12] <giovanni_home> :)
[23:12] <yereth> giovanni_home: ... dolphin is not a web browser..?
[23:13] <yereth> :)
[23:13] <cicero_123> i am learning what not to do. i need to re-enale the dvd/cd burner/player
[23:13] <yereth> does dolphin fish?
[23:13] <stevarino> giovanni_home: oh, i d/l the deb for envy, but ark is trying to open it by default and is failing wonderfully
[23:13] <copacetic> They fly-fish :D
[23:13] <Arwen> dolphin doesn't have a delete option in the context menu...
[23:13] <giovanni_home> I meant that konqueror isn't even good as browser anymore
[23:13] <Arwen> stevarino, NO ENVY
[23:13] <yereth> giovanni_home: even? it's still a great everything-browser
[23:13] <giovanni_home> stevarino: dpkg --force-all-and-more -i envy*deb
[23:13] <stevarino> Arwen: ? is there another method for nvidia?
[23:14] <Arwen> !nvidia
[23:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[23:14] <Arwen> yes, there is
[23:14] <Arwen> it's called "installing it"
[23:14] <nareshov> fish works on dolphin
[23:14] <yereth> you can just install nvidia-glx
[23:14] <yereth> nareshov: good
[23:14] <copacetic> nvidia is trash.
[23:14] <cicero_123> is there a cosole command that will undo the damage that i did in root with dolphin and remount--reënable or whatever it needs to do to work again?
[23:15] <yereth> ugh.. dolphin doesn't show a location-toolbar by default.. smells like gnome
[23:15] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ you can get it back :)
[23:15] <copacetic> cicero_123, Just hit the undo key on your keyboard.
[23:15] <cicero_123> :/
[23:15] <yereth> nosrednaekim: I know, I just don't like where it's heading
[23:16] <copacetic> cicero_123, This isn't paint or word processor. If you mess something up while using root you can't just undo it. :D
[23:16] <Arwen> it has no tree view...
[23:16] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ I understand, and I don'treally like dolphin either.
[23:16] <copacetic> You can fix it, but you can't undo it.
[23:16] <yereth> lol
[23:16] <nosrednaekim> Arwen➜ yeah, it does
[23:16] <yereth> "the process for fish://... protocol died unexpectedly
[23:16] <yereth> "
[23:16] <Arwen> where?
[23:16] <yereth> nosrednaekim: back to konqueror :P
[23:16] <Liono> http://pastebin.com/m25181e43      need help is setting a net cafe
[23:16] <stevarino> Arwen: heh thanks
[23:16] <stevarino> i remember envy leaving a bad taste in my mouth last time
[23:16] <stevarino> speaking of...
[23:17] <giovanni_home> yereth: dolphin is for people who like simple things
[23:17] <nareshov> ya
[23:17] <yereth> giovanni_home: install gnome then :P
[23:17] <giovanni_home> yereth: it's ugly for me
[23:17] <copacetic> Pfft, konqueror is for wimps.
[23:17] <copacetic> Real men use Lynx.
[23:17] <Arwen> nosrednaekim, where?
[23:17] <intelikey> copacetic elinks
[23:18] <yereth> copacetic: does lynx brows my filesystem?
[23:18] <copacetic> Yes.
[23:18] <yereth> browse*
[23:18] <giovanni_home> real men don't even use the computers, they surf the internet speaking on the phone like a modem
[23:18] <oloughlin75> im going to kill amarok if it currupts my wma's again
[23:18]  * hydrogen likes dolphin
[23:18] <Arwen> wma?
[23:18] <yereth> copacetic: real man cut wood and hunt deers.. so stfu :)
[23:18] <Arwen> why?
[23:18] <copacetic> Hahahahah @ giovanni_home
[23:18] <hydrogen> real men don't hang out in irc chat
[23:18] <giovanni_home> ahah
[23:18] <hydrogen> I think is what yereth is saying
[23:19] <copacetic> Real men know deers isn't a word >_>
[23:19] <oloughlin75> just because arwen
[23:19] <nareshov> :P
[23:19] <hydrogen> real men have penises
[23:19] <copacetic> pwnt
[23:19] <hydrogen> and with that, I'm going to get dinner
[23:19] <yereth> I'm dutch.. shoot me :)
[23:19] <cicero_123> copacetic: i know. that is why i am thinking of reinstalling kubuntu.
[23:20] <theunixgeek> How can I make a link to my home folder and other devices on my desktop without the little arrow thingy that represents links?
[23:20] <copacetic> You should know, you're a unix geek. :D
[23:20] <yereth> so a question for the 'pussies': where can I find cool widgets?
[23:20] <giovanni_home> hydrogen: you eat with your penis?
[23:21] <yereth> or directly from ....
[23:21] <yereth> nm
[23:21] <NickPresta> sigh. real men use a magnetized needle and a steady hand. http://xkcd.com/378/
[23:21] <cicero_123> copacetic: i really like kubuntu. it is a whole lot better than win2k and makes more sense than vista. but i was goofing around when i first installed it, and think i can fix the damage that i did in root. i just need to get the burner/player to be enabled and mounted or whatever its setting should be instead of <mountpoint> to nowhere.
[23:21] <theunixgeek> copacetic: I've been using GNOME a lot; I've only been really messing around with KDE recently and I'm liking it. I'm looking for some gconf-edit like thing that lets me put device icons on the desktop
[23:22] <copacetic> mount /media/cdrom
[23:22] <yereth> so where do I find cool screenlets?
[23:22] <giovanni_home> w berlusconi
[23:22] <NickPresta> yereth, from the screenlets website. They have a few goodies. kde-look.org may have some too
[23:22] <Arwen> is there a way to get kde to automount removabke storage media?
[23:23] <giovanni_home> Arwen: should be so out of the box
[23:23] <oloughlin75> theunixgeek: Right click on the open desktop -> configure desktop -> behavior -> device icons tab
[23:23] <yereth> NickPresta: cheers
[23:23] <cicero_123> keen. cdrom even if it is also a dvd and cd burner?
[23:23] <Arwen> giovanni_home, pops a stupid dialog actually
[23:24] <giovanni_home> yes... is that that boring? :) just choose mount
[23:24] <Arwen> not acceptable when using a fullscreen konsole
[23:24] <copacetic> oloughlin75, he already left :D
[23:24] <oloughlin75> wooo amarok didnt currupt the files! it only took it 5 mins to change track info on a cd
[23:24] <oloughlin75> lol
[23:25] <giovanni_home> oloughlin75: try s-vista
[23:25] <copacetic> I'm trying to decide what I like better, bitchx or irssi.
[23:25] <yereth> amarok rules
[23:25] <yereth> best music player ever
[23:25] <copacetic> I think irssi is taking the lead.
[23:25] <oloughlin75> s-vista?
[23:25] <Vermux> yeah1!
[23:25] <Vermux> and Im back
[23:25] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ queue a "amarok 2 sucks"  report ;)
[23:25] <giovanni_home> oloughlin75: vista
[23:26] <yereth> nosrednaekim: does it?
[23:26] <copacetic> yereth, I'm old school. I think xmms or audacious is the best.
[23:26] <giovanni_home> copacetic: noooooo
[23:26] <oloughlin75> giovanni_home: I still use it quite a bit :)
[23:26] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ its more like WMP
[23:26] <mefisto__> is there an amarok 2 in repos?
[23:26] <oloughlin75> uglier?
[23:26] <yereth> nosrednaekim: :( I'll stick with kde3
[23:26] <giovanni_home> xmms is gtk0.3
[23:26] <Vermux> yeah, and Im back with a big problem, but I will share it tomorrow
[23:27] <copacetic> True, but amarok is...blah
[23:27] <Vermux> so be ready
[23:27] <copacetic> It's too big and windows-like.
[23:27] <yereth> I remember there was this advanced theme manager for kde3
[23:27] <nosrednaekim> mefisto__➜ don't think so...
[23:27] <yereth> any idea what it's called?
[23:27] <giovanni_home> oloughlin75: I sometimes use vista... and often get BSOD
[23:27] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ theme manager?
[23:27] <intelikey> so DTV in the US is going to force thousands of people to buy new hardware or loose all telivision service.    bend ofer america.      again!
[23:27] <oloughlin75> iv never had a BSOD in it
[23:27] <yereth> nosrednaekim: I think not
[23:27] <oloughlin75> linux is mor eproblematic -- err easier to break
[23:27] <theunixgeek> Kubuntu and Ubuntu are, like, so far apart from each other....
[23:28] <copacetic> theunixgeek, Not really.
[23:28] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ I mean... whats a theme manager? besides the one in kcontrol/systemsetting?
[23:28] <oloughlin75> just the looks
[23:28] <giovanni_home> copacetic: try vlc
[23:28] <cicero_123> copacetic: keen. i now have a dvd icon on my desktop, but instead of playing when i double click it it opens in dolphin.
[23:28] <copacetic> vlc is ok for a movie player.
[23:28] <copacetic> Not so much for a music player.
[23:28] <Arwen> intelikey, you know what? upgrades happen, so...
[23:28] <theunixgeek> copacetic: well, Kubuntu couldn't really be renamed to Ubuntu KDE Edition because of all the different apps in them.
[23:28] <yereth> nosrednaekim: yes something different.. I'm kind of looking for a nicer desktop for kde3
[23:28] <giovanni_home> cicero_123: open vlc for that sort of things
[23:28] <cicero_123> k
[23:28] <giovanni_home> cicero_123: don't click on the icon
[23:28] <copacetic> cicero_123, right click -> open with
[23:28] <intelikey> Arwen do i get kissed too ?
[23:28] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ try out the Domino theme
[23:29] <oloughlin75> woah -- it looks like i cant use xmms for more than a playlist
[23:29] <nosrednaekim> yeah XMMS is pretty functionless
[23:29] <nosrednaekim> Exaile is nice (if gtk)
[23:29] <copacetic> How is it functionless?
[23:29] <nosrednaekim> just playlists..
[23:29] <hsn_> kubuntu has fix for local root exploit?
[23:29] <yereth> nosrednaekim: what's that?
[23:29] <copacetic> Just because it doesn't have album pictures, popups all over, and is low on resources?
[23:29] <cicero_123> my multimedia choices appear to be amarok, k3b, kaffeine, or kmix
[23:29] <copacetic> kmix?!
[23:30] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ a MAC os X looking theme
[23:30] <jlr4u> I lost my knetworkmanager and it does nothing when I try to open it. If you google "knetworkmanager does nothing" there are a lot of other folks with the same problem.
[23:30] <MrJigsaw> How can i edit in grub's menu.lst ?
[23:30] <nosrednaekim> copacetic➜ hey.. I didn't say it wasn't nice for its purposes, but it can NOT compare to amarok in features
[23:30] <yereth> nosrednaekim: sounds nice
[23:30] <oloughlin75> copacetic: use it to manage more than 100 songs  and youll see what i was saying
[23:30] <MrJigsaw> When i open it en kate it says access denied..
[23:30] <giovanni_home> copacetic: don't use xmms... we must abandon old gtk1.2 apps
[23:30] <MrJigsaw> open it ind*
[23:30] <copacetic> In "useless" features. :D
[23:30] <oloughlin75> MrJigsaw: sudo kate /file/
[23:31] <nosrednaekim> MrJigsaw➜ "kdesudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[23:31] <yereth> nosrednaekim: you have a link?
[23:31] <mefisto__> MrJigsaw: no, don't use sudo
[23:31] <nosrednaekim> oloughlin75➜ please use kdesudo with graphical apps
[23:31] <copacetic> I've always had trouble getting radio stations to play in Amarok too.
[23:31] <copacetic> Which works fine in xmms.
[23:31] <oloughlin75> :/ still learning. Is there a specific reason?
[23:31] <MrJigsaw> What then mefisto__?
[23:31] <intelikey> Arwen "you know what? upgrades happen, so..."    only to people stupid enough to buy the new junk. which is not one bit better than the old junk. which was worth $0 then and even less now.       but i'm OT so i'll stop now.
[23:31] <mefisto__> see nosrednaekim's instructions
[23:32] <nosrednaekim> !kdesudo | oloughlin75
[23:32] <ubotu> oloughlin75: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[23:32] <copacetic> Nonsense, I use sudo all the time.
[23:32] <cicero_123> what is the default dvd player?
[23:32] <copacetic> Not for running programs though...
[23:32] <mefisto__> copacetic: follow that link. it's not nonsense
[23:32] <nosrednaekim> cicero_123➜ kaffiene
[23:32] <Arwen> cicero_123, kaffeiene
[23:33] <copacetic> xine or vlc - best for playing videos
[23:33] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=42804
[23:33] <giovanni_home> ubuntu: if you're typing in a console you can use sudo with graphical apps...
[23:33] <cicero_123> thanx. :)  everything works now, and i can be free of ms
[23:33] <giovanni_home> ubotu:  if you're typing in a console you can use sudo with graphical apps...
[23:33] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ you can probably find a deb somewhere as well
[23:33] <mefisto__> giovanni_home: ubuto is a bot
[23:33] <yereth> stop typing, I'm trying to select a line
[23:33] <giovanni_home> ahah
[23:34] <copacetic> type type
[23:34] <giovanni_home> it's just said me it's not intelligent
[23:34] <cicero_123> 5th day of linux/kubuntu. thanx all. :) have a good day.
[23:34] <yereth> :P
[23:34] <nosrednaekim> cicero_123➜ cheers!
[23:34] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ lol
[23:34]  * Arwen has no desire to be "freed of ms"
[23:34] <intelikey> giovanni_home you should not use sudo with graphical apps.
[23:34] <giovanni_home> why intelikey
[23:34] <yereth> nosrednaekim: configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[23:35] <copacetic> I never use to like MS, but now I despise them after what they did with OLPC.
[23:35] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ like I said.... find a deb ;)
[23:35] <yereth> eheheh
[23:35] <intelikey> giovanni_home cause it's not made for them.   if you want to be in here asking us how to streighten out what it messes up,  then go ahead.
[23:35] <yereth> nosrednaekim: ugh.. i386
[23:35] <giovanni_home> intelikey: kdesu is slower
[23:36] <oloughlin75> gmail looks so fugly in konquerer
[23:36] <copacetic> Why would you use sudo to run a graphical app in the first place?
[23:36] <nosrednaekim> oloughlin75➜ well, congrats on getting it to work in the first place
[23:36] <giovanni_home> intelikey: I've been using sudo in console for years without problems
[23:36] <intelikey> giovanni_home so use what ever you want.    but don't come crying to me that you can no longer login as user or that blah wont run anymore.
[23:36] <giovanni_home> intelikey: don't worry about that
[23:37] <intelikey> console != X-apps
[23:37] <giovanni_home> intelikey: I mean graphical apps in console
[23:37] <mefisto__> giovanni_home:  http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo explains
[23:37] <copacetic> curses?
[23:37] <yereth> nosrednaekim: oops.. forgot build-essentials
[23:37] <oloughlin75> that site says you cant sudo kate, but you can
[23:38] <yereth> nosrednaekim: didn't compile stuff for a while
[23:38] <Angelus> guys
[23:38] <oloughlin75> I got a question for the next time I mess up xorg... how do you delete it/rename it? It always warns me about token xorg and conf or something and rename doesnt work
[23:38] <Angelus> why is konqeuror displaying some of the fonts incomplete?
[23:39] <copacetic> Because konqueror is terrible.
[23:39] <Dragnslcr> oloughlin75- sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[23:39] <giovanni_home> sudo kate works for me
[23:39] <Angelus> other then that copacetic?
[23:39] <coreymon77> giovanni_home: wowowowow
[23:39] <Angelus> giovanni_home:  kdesu no sudo
[23:39] <coreymon77> giovanni_home: never use sudo for graphical applications
[23:39] <oloughlin75> rename doesnt work?
[23:39] <Dragnslcr> Or cp instead of mv if you want to make a copy
[23:39] <intelikey> !worksforme | giovanni_home
[23:39] <ubotu> giovanni_home: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[23:39] <Angelus> yeah
[23:39] <Dragnslcr> oloughlin75- the shell command to rename a file is mv
[23:39] <copacetic> do not mv xorg.conf
[23:39] <oloughlin75> oo
[23:40] <coreymon77> giovanni_home: always use kdesu
[23:40] <copacetic> That's stupid.
[23:40] <Angelus> lol
[23:40] <giovanni_home> hey guys... you're bothering me... I understood, but I'll keep using sudo... kdesu is slower
[23:40] <coreymon77> giovanni_home: alright then, dont say we didnt warn you
[23:40] <Dragnslcr> copacetic- well, the assumption is that you would then replace it with another xorg.conf file
[23:40] <oloughlin75> copacetic: for the next time i mess up xorg and cant figure out how to delete the bad one and rename the backup
[23:40] <Angelus> come on guys
[23:40] <Angelus> no need to kill him for that stupid line :
[23:40] <Angelus> :P
[23:40] <intelikey> moreover don't tell others to use it.
[23:41] <yereth> "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"
[23:41] <yereth> any thoughts?
[23:41] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ whats this on?
[23:41] <yereth> already installed xlibs-static-dev
[23:41] <stevarino> hm, /etc/issue reads "ubuntu 6.06.2 lts" is that normal?
[23:41] <yereth> nosrednaekim: ./configure at the package
[23:41] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ to a apt-get build-dep on the source dir
[23:41] <intelikey> yereth xorg-dev something maybe
[23:42] <nosrednaekim> *do
[23:42] <oloughlin75> Whats a good java IDE for linux?
[23:42] <nosrednaekim> oloughlin75➜ eclipse
[23:42] <yereth> nosrednaekim: I can build-dep a source dir?
[23:42] <copacetic> lol @ him using ubuntu 6.06
[23:42] <oloughlin75> i dont particularly like eclipse
[23:42] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ yes, I forget EXACTLY how,but man apt-get should tell you
[23:43] <copacetic> stevarino, Do you still use rotary phones too?
[23:43] <intelikey> copacetic 6.6 is LTS still supported offically
[23:43] <nosrednaekim> copacetic➜ what? its still officially supported
[23:43] <copacetic> So?
[23:43] <nosrednaekim> so, its perfectly ok for him to still be using it, and we will support it for another year at least
[23:43] <intelikey> copacetic so you show your iq by laughing at someone for using it.   that what.
[23:43] <stevarino> :( i just d/l what the server gave me
[23:44] <copacetic> How does that show my IQ?
[23:44] <dsmith_> besides dell laptops, anyone else know of any cheap models that work flawlessly out of box from say Lenovo, HP, Acer for an example?
[23:44] <denis> hallo
[23:44] <nosrednaekim> dsmith_➜ acer 5050 works great here.
[23:44] <yereth> nosrednaekim: build-dep needs a package
[23:44] <oloughlin75> nothing works out of the box dsmith_
[23:44] <oloughlin75> :)
[23:44] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ oh.... it needs a source deb?
[23:44] <dsmith_> ok,..
[23:44] <copacetic> I'm laughing because it's old. Doesn't matter if it's "officially supported." It's still old.
[23:45] <denis> me f
[23:45] <yereth> nosrednaekim: it says so
[23:45] <Arwen> heh
[23:45] <sub[t]rnl> !ot | copacetic
[23:45] <ubotu> copacetic: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[23:45] <denis> sorry
[23:45] <nosrednaekim> yereth➜ err sorry then ;)
[23:45] <yereth> sub[t]rnl: official.. lol
[23:45] <yereth> nosrednaekim: np
[23:45] <Arwen> so hard to trim down installs with all this stuff being depended on by *-desktop...
[23:45] <oloughlin75> is there a list of bot commands somewhere?
[23:45] <nosrednaekim> !bot
[23:45] <denis> me p.e., I have a problem on this Lenovo 3000 N200
[23:45] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[23:46] <dsmith_> nosrednaekim: I am looking for some low end laptops to install linux on and sell
[23:46] <stevarino> hm, this would explain a lot of my troubles
[23:46] <nosrednaekim> dsmith_➜ well, used thinkpads are nice.
[23:46] <copacetic> You can install linux on a Compaq Armada.
[23:46] <dsmith_> R61a?
[23:46] <copacetic> You could probably find one for $10.
[23:46] <dsmith_> lol I am talking new
[23:46] <nosrednaekim> stevarino➜ what would?
[23:46] <intelikey> dsmith_ most older hardware is supported.
[23:46] <dsmith_> I have installed on a few laptops already
[23:47] <denis> I have Kubuntu 7.06 and want to upgrade to 7.10 but it always makes me problems
[23:47] <dsmith_> intelikey: I know.. :)
[23:47] <oloughlin75> dsmith_: I have a Gateway MT3422 and the only thing that didnt work OTB was the sound
[23:47] <dsmith_> denis: BACKUP, then upgrade
[23:47] <nosrednaekim> dsmith_➜ well, then go intel, best advice I can give for low-end stuff.
[23:47] <denis> rookie, me
[23:47] <nosrednaekim> it'll get you away from broadcom, etc
[23:47] <dsmith_> oloughlin75: thats the problem I have with a panasonic CF-51
[23:47] <oloughlin75> dsmith_: Never get an ATI card in it!
[23:47] <denis> there is nothing to backup
[23:47] <dsmith_> ati, never
[23:48] <dsmith_> broadcom, never
[23:48] <denis> it's all-new
[23:48] <denis> nvidia isn't better
[23:48] <dsmith_> is so :P
[23:48] <copacetic> denis, If you're having upgrade problems, just download the newest iso, burn and re-install.
[23:48] <oloughlin75> dsmith_: Did you try the lastest alsa drivers? My sound needs them, and kubuntu hasnt upgraded them yet
[23:48] <denis> no, I don think so, but I have another problem, as I already mentionend
[23:48] <dsmith_> oloughlin75: I dont remember
[23:49] <denis> I did download the newest iso
[23:49] <yereth> quite a bitch to compile a package
[23:49] <copacetic> Then why are you trying to upgrade?
[23:49] <denis> it said it would be DVD of 7.10
[23:49] <yereth> so many dependencies
[23:49] <dsmith_> copacetic: you beat me to saying that :)
[23:49] <denis> how do I see the version of my system?
[23:49] <oloughlin75> yereth: Just takes a few minutes :/
[23:49] <yereth> denis: uname -a
[23:49] <oloughlin75> and i had to install some random package else i got an error
[23:49] <intelikey> because the newest iso is old, that is to say there are updates for most of the packages on it.
[23:49] <denis> thanks
[23:49] <yereth> erm..
[23:50] <yereth> that's the kernel :)
[23:50] <oloughlin75> ?
[23:50] <intelikey> denis lsb_release -a
[23:50] <denis> jep
[23:50] <denis> Linux Laptop 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linu                                                                                                   x
[23:50] <yereth> oloughlin75: it does
[23:50] <oloughlin75> i needed gettext and something else
[23:50] <copacetic> intelikey, I think he was upgrading his entire distro version.
[23:50] <intelikey> or is it dash in place of underscore
[23:50] <copacetic> Not app/security updates.
[23:50] <biovore> those are called dependencies
[23:51] <denis> 7.10
[23:51] <denis> isn't that the newest?
[23:51] <Arwen> yes
[23:51] <intelikey> yeah that's latest.  and there are losts of updates for it.
[23:51] <Arwen> we're pretty close to 8.04 iirc
[23:51] <denis> yes, aroun 154
[23:51] <denis> d
[23:51] <dsmith_> lots of lost updated, :P
[23:51] <denis> so why does it say there is an upgrade?
[23:52] <denis> btw: I have problems with apt-get update after updating
[23:52] <oloughlin75> it was released a few months ago
[23:52] <intelikey> bug in the upgrade notifier ?
[23:52] <biovore> yup
[23:52] <dsmith_> biovore: what happened to MD LUG?
[23:52] <biovore> it always says there is a newer version.. but its always wrong :-P
[23:52] <denis> it says that it can find the lock file
[23:52] <oloughlin75> !adeptfix | denis
[23:52] <ubotu> denis: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[23:52] <biovore> dsmith_: I do the Capitol College Lug
[23:52] <dsmith_> ok
[23:52] <denis> thanks
[23:52] <yereth> "in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail."
[23:52] <yereth> now what?
[23:52] <stevarino> is there a command to upgrade everything to 7.10, cuz this really sucks
[23:53] <oloughlin75> i had the same problem after updates
[23:53] <stevarino> i thought apt-get dist-upgrade would do the trick...
[23:53] <intelikey> biovore that's yet another argument against running the latest rather than the LTS    but  i need not go there.
[23:53] <biovore> dsmith_: Capitol College in Laurel Maryland 6:00 -> 9 ish  (nea  Powder mill road and parkway
[23:53] <copacetic> stevarino, sudo gksu "update-manager -c"
[23:53] <dsmith_> biovore: too far
[23:53] <copacetic> Hrm, that must be an ubuntu only app
[23:54] <biovore> kdesu -> gksu
[23:54] <copacetic> Disregard my comment.
[23:54] <copacetic> Ah
[23:54] <denis> when I enter sudo dpkg --configure -a, it asks me to either keep the old files or take the new ones. Whast do I haave to do?
[23:54] <intelikey> gksudo and kdesudo are also avalable
[23:55] <stevarino> copacetic: thanks.. i'm burning the dvd of 7.1 now (yes, i had a 6.06 cd iso and a 7.10 dvd iso, i have no clue why either)
[23:55] <intelikey> denis if everything is working     keep the old ones
[23:55] <denis> ok
[23:55] <yereth> hhrmm.. too much whiskeyt
[23:56] <copacetic> I always keep the old ones. Some apps may depends on them.
[23:56] <yereth> hence the typo
[23:56] <copacetic> -s
[23:56] <denis> thank you, it's working
[23:56] <intelikey> heh copacetic you very funny man.
[23:57] <yereth> nosrednaekim: finally, ./configure ran without errors
[23:57] <copacetic> Hrm, thanks?
[23:57] <denis> hehe
[23:57] <copacetic> yereth, Now the hard part :D
[23:57] <yereth> installed 100MB of dev packs
[23:57] <nosrednaekim> :)
[23:57] <copacetic> Getting make to finish without errors.
[23:57] <luigi> it1
[23:57] <luigi> it!
[23:57] <luigi> !it
[23:57] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[23:58] <denis> !de
[23:58] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[23:58] <denis> ah cool
[23:58] <yereth> nosrednaekim: so I've run make install... should the theme be in the list now?
[23:59] <nosrednaekim> yeah... should be
[23:59] <copacetic> You did sudo make install, correct?
[23:59] <yereth> copacetic: did so
[23:59] <Arwen> oh yeah, anyone else here used VisualboyAdvance? It's broken here.
[23:59] <luigi> #ubuntu-it