[00:18] <mneptok> mmm .... turkey.
[00:19] <LjL> diamond5pam spammed #ubuntu for a long time (except he was muted by the bots) then went on to spam #kubuntu when i banned him from #ubuntu
[00:21] <LjL> he flooded #ubuntu for some 5 minutes... wow.
[00:22] <mneptok> i'm not seeing that
[00:22] <mneptok> he /join'ed at :13 past amd was muted ~2m later
[00:22] <LjL> mneptok: of course not, the floodbot muted him after the first 6 lines
[00:22] <LjL> mneptok: but he *was* still going on with that when i got +o and banned him
[00:23] <LjL> now [01:22:45] --> co_gHokiLzZ_____ has joined this channel (n=stmikdp@202.62.20.243).
[00:23] <LjL> nice nickname huh
[00:42] <nalioth> LjL: poke a staffer for anything5pam, please
[00:42] <LjL> ok
[00:45] <nalioth> that is an unrepentent recidivist
[00:45] <nalioth> same guy who copies all of "War and Peace" or the whole of the GPL and pastes them into places
[00:46] <LjL> had something to do with Alice this time apparently
[00:50] <nalioth> --in wonderland, perhaps?
[00:52] <LjL> i couldn't say that
[00:54]  * nalioth likes to read, but hates spam
[01:10] <jdong> it was the best of worlds...
[02:08] <LjL> nalioth, see Gradies in #ubuntu
[02:08] <LjL> and #gentoo
[02:08] <nalioth> klined
[02:08] <LjL> seen it
[02:08]  * nalioth has to get spooled up
[02:08] <nalioth> when y'all kickban 'em, i have to type out their nicks
[02:09] <LjL> nalioth: meh... next time i'll mute without kicking, ok :P
[03:00] <ubotu> FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[03:00] <ubotu> FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> mneptok: FYI hammer already got banned once today, and he is running through that one proxy Ljl set up..
[04:22] <mneptok> Jack_Sparrow: beat me to it
[04:22] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[04:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Zero tolerance
[04:22] <mneptok> need a tighter ban, though
[04:22] <Jack_Sparrow> please adjust it
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> or tell me how
[04:23] <mneptok> i banned by host
[04:23] <mneptok> all he would have to do is change nicks and he could avoid that nick ban
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> great thanks
[04:23] <mneptok> np np
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> My quick button needs work
[08:20] <ubotu> badkitty called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[08:35] <jussi01> Madpilot: good morning, you have access in #ubuntu?
[08:35] <Madpilot> jussi01, yes, I do. What's up?
[08:36] <jussi01> Madpilot: xmanxxxx swearing 
[08:36] <jussi01> Madpilot: ie. [10:29] < xmanxxxx> the fucking ubuntu crash all
[08:36] <Madpilot> just the once?
[08:37] <jussi01> twice now
[08:37] <Madpilot> meh. I assume he's been warned? !ohmy and the rest?
[08:38] <jussi01> yeah, of course, just thought to let someone keep an eye on
[08:38] <Madpilot> will do. 
[08:38] <jussi01> :)
[08:38] <Madpilot> there's no 'xmanxxx' in #u right now, though
[10:44]  * PriceChild wonders what happenned to him.
[10:45] <jussi01> PriceChild: eha?
[10:45] <jussi01> gah, stupid fat fingers
[10:46] <PriceChild> ?
[10:47] <jussi01> gah, he disappeared..
[10:48] <Hobbsee> now, i could tell him that, if only he'd ask...
[10:50] <Hobbsee> ah well, he'll come back
[14:24] <ubotu> jasonn called the ops in #ubuntu-uk ()
[14:26] <Mez> !ops | "alpaco" is around and causing trouble, keep eyes peeled
[14:26] <ubotu> "alpaco" is around and causing trouble, keep eyes peeled: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[14:26] <ubotu> Mez called the ops in #ubuntu-ops ("alpaco" is around and causing trouble, keep eyes peeled)
[14:26] <Pici> Mez: again?
[14:26] <Mez> Pici, yeah - I just had to ban from -uk
[14:27] <Pici> Mez: we have a ident and realname ban on him for #ubuntu
[14:27]  * Dave2 is keeping an eye on him.
[14:27] <Mez> I know - I set them
[14:27] <Mez> Dave2, can you just kline him:
[14:27] <Mez> ?
[14:28] <Dave2> I will if he does it again anywhere else.
[14:28] <Mez> * Bans matching jasonn!n=srv@213.217.36.170 (Al Paco)
[14:28] <Mez> * *!?=srv@213.217.*
[14:28] <Mez> * Al?Paco
[14:28] <Mez> Dave2, he's done it in plenty of places
[14:28] <Dave2> but not that I personally have seen
[14:28] <Mez> he's done it 4 or 5 times in #u - hence why I added the *!?=srv@213.217.*
[14:28] <Mez> Dave2, do you have access to the bantracker ?
[14:29] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-irc, erUSUL said: !addingfs is <reply>If you are adding space to your Ubuntu installation mounting a newly created unix filesystem (ext3, xfs, jfs, etc) you can not set permissions (read writte etc) fs wide like you do when mounting fs that do not support unix permissions (vfat, ntfs, hfs, etc) with mount options like guid, uid and umask. Make directories inside the new file system and tweak the permissions of that folders to allow normal use
[14:29] <Dave2> probably not - but it's still something I'd want to see occurring personally, and from the looks of things, I can't see it being too long until it does happen again
[14:29] <Mez> Dave2, actually, it's open to all
[14:29] <Mez> https://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/bans.cgi?query=%40213.217&kicks=on&oldbans=on&bans=on&oldmutes=on&mutes=on
[14:29] <Pici> Mez: it was re-opened? since when?
[14:30] <Pici> Mez: I tried it this weekend and it wouldnt work
[14:30] <Mez> Pici, I didn't know it was closed?
[14:30] <Pici> Mez: Its still closed if you dont btlogin
[14:30] <Mez> I knew it was opened a long time ago...
[14:30] <Mez> ah, ok
[14:30] <Mez> I thought btlogin just gave you edit perms
[14:30] <Pici> It used to just do that.
[14:31] <Mez> hmmles..
[14:31] <Mez> looks like some bans from -ir too
[14:32] <Mez> btlogin uses LP right?
[14:32] <PriceChild> no
[14:32] <PriceChild> well... "no"
[14:33] <Mez> ah, I was just wondering how to find out it Dave2 was on it
[14:33] <PriceChild> its closed to anonymous users because of server load
[14:33] <PriceChild> i'm sure sev would give him access if he requested it
[14:33] <Mez> PriceChild, I'm surprised he hasnt got it already
[14:33] <Mez> erUSUL, can we help ?
[14:34] <erUSUL> Mez: just wanted to know if the factoid was added rejected edited ...
[14:34] <jrib> erUSUL: is there a wiki page about the issue?
[14:34] <erUSUL> jrib: no that i could find in 30 seconds
[14:35] <erUSUL> but i had the same concern ;) 15:17 < erUSUL> Pici: ok; i will work something out but i'm afraid it will end up a large one... maybe a wiki page is better?
[14:36] <Pici> I suggested that he submit the factoid and we'd take a look from there.
[14:36] <erUSUL> also forgot to point out that mount point permissions have no effect on the permissions of the mounted fs
[14:36] <jrib> maybe the !permissions wiki is a good place?
[14:36] <erUSUL> that's a common missconception too
[14:38] <jrib> or create a new wiki page about mounting extra partitions, tell users to see the !permissions wiki page for filesystems that support it or !ntfs/!vfat wiki pages for others.  There's no fstab wiki page so it could talk about that too
[14:38] <jrib> !diskmounter
[14:38] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[14:39] <jrib> on second thought, that's the page to mention it
[14:40] <erUSUL> jrib: what page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions this?
[14:41] <jrib> yeah, the "Editing Ubuntu's filesystem table" section talks about permissions with mount options
[14:41] <jrib> but the page never mentions what to do with ext3 and friends
[14:41] <erUSUL> but it is pretty windows/MacOs centric the script is for windows patitions only
[14:42] <erUSUL> The wiki page i mean
[14:42] <jrib> That's true, but the title suggests it shouldn't be
[14:44] <erUSUL> jrib: it would mean a mayor rework of the page structure imho as all revolve around vfat/ntfs as it stands
[14:44] <jrib> k, fair enough
[14:46] <erUSUL> jrib: or we can add it at the end of the page as an afterthought (you know "minimal effort law") XD
[14:46] <jrib> addingfs is <reply>If you are adding space to your Ubuntu installation mounting a newly created unix filesystem (ext3, xfs, jfs, etc) you can not set permissions (read write etc) fs wide like you do when mounting fs that do not support unix permissions (vfat, ntfs, hfs, etc).  See !permissions
[14:46] <jrib> edits?
[14:48] <Mez> Dave2, he's also been causing trouble in #ubuntu-ir
[14:48] <Mez> I've given them info on a ban to match him well
[14:48] <erUSUL> See !permissions covers the part about how to make normal users use the new space added
[14:48] <Tm_T> hi kids
[14:48] <Pici> Hi!
[14:48] <Tm_T> Mez: you pinged me some week(?) ago?
[14:48] <erUSUL> jrib: ?
[14:49] <jrib> Though I kind of dislike that !permissions links to a page on FHS that links you to the permissions page
[14:49] <Mez> Tm_T, lol - was it you who did the emulator site?
[14:49] <jrib> erUSUL: yeah, that seems good to me
[14:49] <Tm_T> Mez: emulator site? (apparently not me)
[14:50] <Mez> musta been Tonio then
[14:50] <Tm_T> prolly
[14:50] <erUSUL> jrib: well is ok to me thanks! 
[14:51] <Mez> Tm_T, sorry - I get you two mixed up
[14:52] <jrib> !addingfs is <reply>If you are adding space to your Ubuntu installation mounting a newly created unix filesystem (ext3, xfs, jfs, etc) you can not set permissions (read, write, etc) filesystem-wide like you do when mounting filesystems that do not support unix permissions (vfat, ntfs, hfs, etc).  See !permissions
[14:52] <ubotu> I'll remember that, jrib
[14:52] <jrib> thanks erUSUL
[14:57] <erUSUL> jrib: no problem ;) bye i leave you, mighty ones XD, alone
[14:58] <Tm_T> Mez: no prob
[14:58] <jrib> !addingfs is <reply>If you are adding space to your Ubuntu installation mounting a newly created unix filesystem (ext3, xfs, jfs, etc) you can not set permissions (read, write, etc) filesystem-wide like you do when mounting filesystems that do not support unix permissions (vfat, ntfs, hfs, etc).  See !permissions and !fstab
[14:58] <ubotu> But addingfs already means something else!
[14:58] <jrib> !no addingfs is <reply>If you are adding space to your Ubuntu installation mounting a newly created unix filesystem (ext3, xfs, jfs, etc) you can not set permissions (read, write, etc) filesystem-wide like you do when mounting filesystems that do not support unix permissions (vfat, ntfs, hfs, etc).  See !permissions and !fstab
[14:58] <ubotu> I'll remember that jrib
[15:03] <popey> !info parallels
[15:03] <ubotu> Package parallels does not exist in gutsy
[15:03] <popey> ^^ its in the canonical partner repo - does ubotu not know about that?
[15:03] <popey> should it? :)
[15:03] <jrib> bug :)
[15:35] <Mez> @list plugins
[15:36] <Mez> @list
[15:36] <ubotu> Admin, Bantracker, Bugtracker, Channel, Config, Encyclopedia, Filter, FreenodeAuth, Lart, Math, Mess, Misc, Owner, Services, User, and Webcal
[15:36] <Mez> @list Bugtracker
[15:36] <ubotu> add, list, remove, and rename
[15:36] <Mez> @config list Bugtracker
[15:36] <Mez> @config Bugtracker
[15:36] <Mez> @config.Bugtracker
[15:36] <Mez> @supybot.config
[15:37] <jussi01> Mez: what are you tring to do?
[15:37] <Mez> find out it's list of archives
[15:38] <jdong> Mez =~ s/it's/its/g
[15:38]  * jdong puts on a helmet...
[15:38]  * Mez lols@the helmet
[15:40] <jussi01> @bugtracker list
[15:40] <ubotu> apache, ati.cchtml.com, bug, bughost.org, bugs.gentoo.org, bugs.ghostscript.com, bugs.opencompositing.org, bugzilla.mindrot.org, bugzilla.mozdev.org, bugzilla.pculture.org, bugzilla.xfce.org, cups, debian, django, freedesktop, freedesktop2, gaim, gcc, gnewsense, gnome, gnome2, issues.workrave.org, kde, launchpad, lp, madwifi, malone, mandriva, mozilla, novell, openoffice, openoffice.org, oss.codepoet.no, (1 more message)
[15:41] <jussi01> Mez: is that what you were after?
[15:41] <Mez> jussi01, nvm
[15:41] <jdong> jussi01: he was after getting !info pkgname distro to know about gutsy-partner
[15:42] <jdong> or a large chocolate bar
[15:42] <jussi01> jdong: ahhh yes
[15:42] <jdong> I forgot which
[15:43]  * jussi01 thinks !java needs an update
[15:43] <jussi01> !java
[15:43] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[15:43] <jussi01> huh??
[15:43] <jussi01> !java-#kubuntu
[15:43] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[15:43] <jussi01> hmmm
[15:43] <jussi01> someone want to fix that?
[15:44] <jdong> both are incorrect
[15:44] <jdong> first of all, it is just simply a runtime, not an interpretor
[15:44] <jussi01> heh
[15:44] <jdong> (unless you're using gij in which case burn in hell)
[15:44] <jdong> sun-java{5,6}-jre are the right ones, -jdk for compiler
[15:44] <jdong> they're all in supported distros so no need for this backports stuff 
[15:45] <jdong> and icedtea-java7-* is new and FOSS in Gutsy/Hardy
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> jussi01:  please hold off on the enter key..  full sentences really help keep this readable
[15:52] <jussi01> Jack_Sparrow: ??
[15:52]  * jussi01 whacks jdong for Jack_Sparrow 
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Both of you
[15:53] <Jack_Sparrow> oh..
[15:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Just getting punchy
[15:53] <jussi01> hehe
[15:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Didnt even realize I was in the ops room
[15:54] <jussi01> wel im off for a bit - someone fix that factoid if you have time :)
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> np  will do
[15:55] <Jack_Sparrow> The Dr changed my meds and I have not had a good nights sleep all week
[15:55] <LjL> channel, for crying out loud, *channel*
[15:56] <no0tic> LjL?
[15:57] <LjL> no0tic: "room"
[15:57] <Mez> LjL, -HASH- ubuntu-ops ;)
[16:26] <jpatrick> evening
[16:30] <no0tic> jpatrick, hi
[16:32] <jpatrick> hi no0tic 
[16:32] <Pici> hi
[16:34] <PriceChild>  
[16:34] <LjL> PriceChild: you're so right
[16:34] <PriceChild> I call that a design flaw of qwerty... having a backspace so close to return.
[16:34] <PriceChild> :P
[16:36] <Pici> What a lousy tournament that must be if everyone wins.
[16:38] <LjL> kicks tournament!
[16:39] <PriceChild> What tournament?
[16:39] <Pici> 11:32:48 <?Poker_Player> POKER TOURNAMENT --> EVERYBODY WINS MONEY !
[16:40] <PriceChild> ohhh
[16:42] <no0tic> where?! I wanna play!
[16:42] <no0tic> :P
[16:46] <TheSheep> moeny? no ponies? pffft!
[16:51] <jpatrick> !ping
[16:51] <ubotu> ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore
[16:52] <jpatrick> hmm
[16:54] <TheSheep> but when you install sighing doors, I'm leaving ;)
[17:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Why do we have a page in the forums promoting automatix and envy?   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=512059
[17:08] <jpatrick> "Last install I had to use ENVY 3 times before it installed correctly."
[17:20] <PriceChild> Jack_Sparrow, forums are forums.... users can write what they like
[17:21] <PriceChild> Jack_Sparrow, PMing the user about it.
[17:21] <Jack_Sparrow> We should be able to pull something that bad
[17:21] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[17:21] <ubotu> FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[17:21] <ubotu> FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[17:21] <ubotu> FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[17:21] <PriceChild> Haha you guys see that pwnage?
[17:22] <jpatrick> meh, they get stupider everyday
[17:23] <ikonia> Jack_Sparrow the guy who has wrote the article classes himself as a "development user" which to my mind says "experienced" yet he's saying "it works as long as you use envy" this is back to front on every front
[17:23] <Mez> OMG @ PriceChild that was AWS0MZ!
[17:23] <PriceChild> Mez, I'm sure he got his lolz
[17:33] <Pici> s/lolz/lulz/
[17:42] <PriceChild> whoops my mistake
[17:56] <ubotu> DRebellion called the ops in #ubuntu (freepenguin)
[18:01] <Seveas> freepenguin should be shot
[18:03]  * jussi01 pulls out his IRC gun...
[18:15] <Pici> Cpudan80: How can we help you today?
[18:15] <Cpudan80> ikonia: As a staffer - you should know the basics for catalyizing 
[18:15] <Cpudan80> 1 friendly comment isn't the basis for an outright assault 
[18:16] <ikonia> I'm not staff, and no-one assaulted you
[18:16] <Cpudan80> Oh my mistake
[18:16] <Cpudan80> ikonia: Well then --- as a staffer --- I urge you to read freenode's docs about catalysts 
[18:16] <ikonia> "hi - how is everyeone" in a VERY busy at the moment support channel is not good
[18:16] <Pici> Cpudan80: #ubuntu can get crazy at time, ikonia is just trying to keep everyone on topic.
[18:16] <Cpudan80> Pici: Maybe so, but 1 comment != drift off topic
[18:17] <ikonia> Cpudan80: imagine 20 people "Hi, I'm fine Cpudan80 how are you"
[18:17] <ikonia> the channel is very busy
[18:17] <ikonia> your 1 comment could provoke 20 people to respond
[18:17] <Cpudan80> ikonia: At which time further action is necessary 
[18:17] <Cpudan80> ikonia: It never does
[18:17] <Cpudan80> And you know that
[18:17] <ikonia> Cpudan80 no I don't, the bottom line, ubuntu is not a chat channel, and it's really busy at the moment, so idle chat is just making noise
[18:18] <Cpudan80> As much crap as #ubuntu (and ##windows in my case sees) some break in the monotony is good
[18:18] <ikonia> no it's not
[18:18] <ikonia> the channel is VERY busy at the moment
[18:18] <ikonia> go to ubuntu-offtopic for "chat" or a break
[18:18] <Cpudan80> So what?
[18:18] <Cpudan80> Support is free
[18:18] <Cpudan80> Wait your turn
[18:19] <ikonia> I'm not going to discuss this futher and allow someone else to take this up with you
[18:19] <Cpudan80> You might not get answered for an hour, oh well
[18:19] <Cpudan80> Fine
[18:28] <ikonia> Pici: ado_sk is back
[18:29] <Pici> ikonia: thanks.  
[18:29] <ikonia> didn't know if you'd left
[18:29] <Pici> ikonia: I'm a bit too busy here to help out with any questions in #ubuntu, but I'll try to still do the 'housecleaning;
[18:29] <ikonia> fine no problem
[18:31] <ikonia> Pici: I should have just said "bye" but he was just trying to provoke
[18:37] <Pici> ironic for someone with the name familyfriendly to do that.
[18:43] <ubotu> In ubotu, pike_ said: what is dpkg
[18:43] <Pici> bot > pike_
[18:43] <Pici> !bot > pike_
[18:44] <jdong> dpkg is the thing that broke in hardy yesterday
[18:45] <jpatrick> !dpkg > Pici 
[18:45] <jpatrick> opp
[18:45] <jpatrick> !dpkg > pike_
[18:45] <jussi01> hehe
[18:46] <jpatrick> !info dpkg > pike_
[18:46] <Pici> 13:46:26 <pike_> im being spammed by ops for my accidental edit request
[18:47] <Pici> jpatrick: 13:46:26 <pike_> im being spammed by ops for my accidental edit request
[18:47] <jpatrick> err
[18:47] <ompaul> jpatrick, I think that Pici knows !dpkg already ;-)
[18:48] <jpatrick> ompaul: miss tabbed it :)
[18:48] <ompaul> jpatrick, aye
[18:50] <jdong> haha poor soul
[18:50] <jpatrick> just wanted to give some pointers :)
[19:42] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, MenZa said: !halp is <alias> help
[19:48] <jussi01> hmmm, whats peoples opinions of this nick: [21:45] *** ReallyhungNbruta [n=x@75-104-186-2.cust.wildblue.net] has joined #kubuntu
[19:49] <ompaul> jussi01, did ya have to ask?
[19:50] <nalioth> jussi01: is s/he misbehaving?
[19:50] <jussi01> nalioth: nope not at all. just joined, was premptively asking
[19:50] <nalioth> jussi01: did it occur to you that _your_ nick was offensive in some languages?
[19:51] <Pici> Aparrently my nick is.
[19:51] <no0tic> Pici, your nick name is a type of pasta in italy
[19:51] <jussi01> nalioth: it did. Hence I ask here where we have a large number of nationalities and experience. 
[19:52] <nalioth> jussi01: actions speak louder than words
[20:03] <PriceChild> Pici, I did it in less letters, I win :D
[20:03] <Pici> PriceChild: But I still did it first ;)
[20:03] <PriceChild> a mere technicality
[20:04] <Gary> quite a big technicality though
[20:04] <PriceChild> :P
[20:18]  * Pici hides
[20:18] <ompaul> woops
[20:19]  * ompaul scratches his head
[20:19] <Gary> have fun ompaul ?
[20:20] <ompaul> Gary, na - that can be defined as me not having fun
[20:20] <ompaul> very clearly 
[20:20] <Gary> awww
[20:46] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, aoupi said: ubotu: not that high is it?
[21:31] <ubotu> MLP called the ops in #ubuntuforums ()
[22:24] <ubotu> nosrednaekim called the ops in #kubuntu ()
[22:39] <keescook> hello!  the #ubuntu-hardened channel's founder is MIA.  We'd like to coordinate things a little better for it's ownership.  what do you folks recommend?
[22:44] <LjL> keescook, i'm not sure why you don't use #ubuntu-security, would seem the obvious choice to me give the name of the team...?
[22:46] <LjL> keescook: anyway i recommend that you take over as contact
[22:48] <keescook> LjL: we kept #ubuntu-hardened since it already had active people, etc.  It was a trade-off, but I'm hoping we'll grow the group of people involved to the point where we'll need both channels in the future.  :)
[22:48] <keescook> LjL: I'm happy to take over as contact.
[22:48] <nalioth> what is the difference in 'hardened' and 'security' ?
[22:48] <LjL> yeah, i'm wondering too, since there are two different teams
[22:50] <keescook> LjL: traditionally, the "hardened" team was for proactive security only (not ongoing security)
[22:51] <keescook> but since the ongoing security work tends to be related, we merged
[22:51] <keescook> and the prior "security team" team tended to do all it's work via privmsg.  :P
[22:51] <LjL> i see
[22:52] <keescook> so in our attempts to have a more sane community, we've all piled into #ubuntu-hardened channel and mailing list, while keeping some of the team structures separate
[22:54] <LjL> keescook: i have no idea how familiar you might be with IRC commands related to channel management, but in case we have some information and tips here  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/CreatingChannels and here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/Coordination - for anything else, ask in #ubuntu-irc or here
[22:55] <emet> LjL, do you know if I'll ever be unbanned from #ubuntu ?
[22:55] <keescook> LjL: okay, thanks for the tips
[22:55] <LjL> emet: uhm, sorry, refresh my memory, why were you banned?
[22:56] <emet> like a month ago for posting a youtube video>
[22:56] <emet> ..
[22:59] <LjL> emet: back in a second
[23:02] <LjL> emet, are you familiar with the CoC and our IRC guidelines?
[23:04] <emet> yes
[23:05] <LjL> emet: can you reasonably say that you will abide by them in the future? "being bored" is not a good enough reason for tricking users into clicking links in #ubuntu - not at all
[23:05] <emet> right
[23:06] <LjL> emet: just to be on the safe side i suggest you check out these factoids too
[23:06] <LjL> !etiquette > emet    (emet, see the private message from Ubotu)
[23:07] <emet> LjL, thank you
[23:08] <emet> I don't typically do stuff like that :o I don't want to give you the impression that I am a trouble maker
[23:08] <LjL> emet: show your thankfulness by not giving us a reason to ban you again
[23:08] <emet> I mean I helped found the Florida LoCo and founded the FAU LUG (university lug)
[23:09] <emet> also I distributed over 100 CDs from ShipIt and another 50 or so that I printed
[23:10] <LjL> emet: then you're expected to behave even more responsibly than the casual user :)
[23:10] <emet> I didn't realize it was such a big deal
[23:10] <emet> sorry
[23:19] <Pici> emet: I hear LjL has already taken care of you and explained everything the same way that I would have.
[23:21] <Pici> Anyways, you're right, it wasn't *that* big of a deal.  
[23:53] <nosrednaekim> hey, how can I get my ubuntu member cloak?
[23:53] <PriceChild> nosrednaekim, launchpad url please
[23:53] <PriceChild> *could you give me your
[23:54] <nosrednaekim> sure, one sec
[23:55] <ubotu> Bodsda called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[23:55] <nosrednaekim> PriceChild➜ https://launchpad.net/~nosrednaekim
[23:56] <nalioth> i hate typing out nicknames
[23:56] <Pici> naloith, me too
[23:56] <PriceChild> nosrednaekim, have you got two a secondary nickname linked to this, and an email set?
[23:56] <PriceChild> s/two//
[23:57] <nosrednaekim> PriceChild➜ I do not have two nicks if thats what you are wondering....
[23:58] <PriceChild> nosrednaekim, could you follow http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup please?