[01:49] <onesandzeros> hello all.  Any of you guys know how I can see all the make targets in the kernel?  I'm building from source and need a little refresher on how it all works.
[02:16] <xmanxxxx> hi
[02:16] <xmanxxxx> what is this?? pci error cmd=0x157 status=0xc2b0
[02:17] <xmanxxxx> can somebody help me with this ubuntu error
[02:17] <xmanxxxx> ?
[02:17] <xmanxxxx> i finish to install and the first that i see pci error cmd=0x157 status=0xc2b0
[02:26] <xmanxxxx> ehyyyyy
[02:26] <xmanxxxx> what can i do
[02:51] <seanh> if you get a prompt at some point you can look at the boot logs
[03:04] <faulkes-> Evening ScottK
[03:04] <ScottK> Evening
[03:28] <xmanxxxx> where is the dicrectory of C headers
[03:28] <xmanxxxx> ?
[03:28] <kgoetz> pardon?
[03:29] <xmanxxxx> i'm installing  vmware
[03:29] <xmanxxxx> and it is asking for the c headers location directory
[03:29] <kgoetz> meh. *shrug*. i dont use vmware
[03:29] <kgoetz> i think theres a channel on freenode if you want to try it though
[03:30] <kgoetz> and probably instructions on teh ubuntu wiki
[03:30] <infinity> Does it not appear to have a sane default answer (like /usr/include)?
[03:32] <xmanxxxx> o solve
[03:32] <xmanxxxx> tks'
[03:32] <xmanxxxx> jjejeje, reading all is possible
[03:37] <DoYouKnow> sudo apt-get linux-headers
[03:37] <DoYouKnow> sudo apt-get install linux-headers
[03:38] <DoYouKnow> then you should get a list of options
[03:38] <DoYouKnow> and then copy paste the right one into: sudo apt-get install <package_here>
[03:39] <DoYouKnow> that will install the kernel headers needed by vmware
[04:57] <xmanxxxx> ehu
[04:57] <xmanxxxx> how is linux/restricted/modules
[04:58] <xmanxxxx> it says that cant find the package
[04:58] <xmanxxxx> ?
[05:51] <faulkes-> gah, once again insomnia takes over
[07:44] <Martian> Where can I buy an Ubuntu Server cd?
[07:51] <_ruben> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/purchase
[07:52] <_ruben> then again, downloading usualy is the fasted, unless you're unlucky enough not to have access to broadband connection
[07:55] <Martian> __ruben: That's a rare thing in Africa.
[07:56] <Martian> Thanks fro the help.
[07:56] <Martian> *for
[08:20] <kraut> moin
[08:20] <_ruben> g'day
[08:58]  * soren gazes up at the sky with a distant look in his eyes, dreaming of the new ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list
[09:00] <_ruben> hahah
[09:00]  * _ruben pinches soren's arm
[09:00] <soren> Ouch!
[09:00] <_ruben> sorry
[09:00]  * soren stomps on _ruben's foot
[09:00] <_ruben> ouch
[10:57] <Stonekeeper> hi. I'm wondering if some kind soul could point me towards getting a promise 20319 controller working during the 7.10 server install? The bios on my ncch-dl mobo doesn't allow me to set the controller in IDE mode, even though the manual has screenshots saying it can. This is now my only option. Thanks.
[11:07] <Stonekeeper> or can i just setup a "fakeraid" on the controller, then use softraid when ubuntu picks up the 3 disks?
[11:08] <soren> Stonekeeper: What is the problem?
[11:11] <Stonekeeper> hi soren. I have 3 disks i would like to set up as raid 1+spare. My mobo has 2 standard sata ports and 4 "raid" ports. The "raid" ports are controlled by a promise fakeraid controller. The bios does not allow me to set these 4 ports to work in standard IDE mode (even though the manual says i can). I have 2 options: Setup the raid using the bios and somehow get dmraid installed during the server install (can't see the answer to that) or could i just
[11:13] <soren> You got cut off at "or could i jus"..
[11:14] <soren> Well, it's *fake*raid anyway.. What happens if you set them up as raid devices and try to install?
[11:15] <Stonekeeper> Setup the raid using the bios and somehow get dmraid installed during the server install (can't see the answer to that) or could i just setup the array in bios and then use software raid on the 3 drives that ubuntu detects?
[11:15] <Stonekeeper> yeah, it detects 3 drives. I tried just not creating an array, and i installed just fine, however the bios wont boot the drives as it doesn't see any "arrays".
[11:16] <soren> Stonekeeper: Ah, I didn't consider the boot process.
[11:16] <soren> Hmm..
[11:16] <Stonekeeper> so i wondered if it was possible to create a fake array, and just use the drives as standard drives, or whether there would be some crazy conflicts
[11:16] <soren> WEll, dmraid in the installer is quite experimental, so you can't even enable it.
[11:17] <Stonekeeper> from the wiki: Under Linux, which has built-in softRAID functionality that pre-dates these devices, the hardware is normally seen for what it is -- multiple hard drives and a multi-channel IDE/SATA controller. Hence, fakeRAID.
[11:18] <Stonekeeper> so, am i right in thinking that it's literally a plain old sata controller? if so, i should be able to get it to work?
[11:19] <Stonekeeper> if the worst came to the worst, i could ditch the spare and go with the onboard 2 channel sata connections. It's a real waste though as i have 5 drivebays and 6 sata ports
[11:20] <soren> fakeraid is indeed fake.
[11:20] <Stonekeeper> so you think if i created a raid 1+spare array in the bios, then just did what i wanted with the 3 disks, it would work?
[11:21] <soren> All it means is that there's an interface (from the BIOS) to configure the raid stuff and then it's up to the driver in the OS to use those settings for setting up software raid.
[11:21] <Stonekeeper> (if only these things would work in ide mode this would be fine)
[11:22] <soren> I'm not entirely sure. I've not used fakeraid myself.
[11:22] <Stonekeeper> ok, I'll give it a go. My options are getting limited :/
[11:22] <Stonekeeper> it's easy to get it going once you have dmraid installed, but i'd rather just use software raid and ditch the crappy fake stuff
[11:24] <Stonekeeper> hahah, fantastic, i went to the raid bios, created a 1+spare array and then my disks booted into the pre-installed ubuntu server.
[11:24] <Stonekeeper> i guess that answers my question
[11:25] <Stonekeeper> i'm just worried that there will be any conflicts, but if you're sure that the bios doesn't actually do anything during operation, then it'll be fine i guess.
[11:26] <soren> That's why it's called *fake* raid :)
[11:34] <Stonekeeper> soren: thanks man, I understand this a lot better now. I guess the "controller" is simply a standard controller, with some software that allows you to create a kind of "config". Drivers could then read this config up if they so wished. Or you could just plain ignore it and do what you want with your drives. Would that be a fair summary?
[11:35] <soren> Stonekeeper: Pretty much. There might be some additional magic in the bios w.r.t. to booting (failing over if one of the disks are broken or whatnot), but that's it.
[11:35] <Stonekeeper> ah, that could be a problem i guess :/
[11:36] <Stonekeeper> depends if i've guessed which one of the drives is the spare correctly. Perhaps i should just use the 2 disk on board controller :/
[11:36] <Stonekeeper> before the bios kills one of my mirrors thinking it's a spare
[11:37] <Stonekeeper> hmm.. but i guess the bios wouldn't recover. This is just booting... Meh, I'll stick with it.
[11:38] <Stonekeeper> one other quick Q soren: Does the installer now realise that when you setup md mirrors, to install grub on BOTH drives, or do we still have to do that manually?
[11:39] <soren> Stonekeeper: The installer should do the right thing.
[11:39] <Stonekeeper> ah great. I know it didn't used to. I was going to md5sum the bootrecord on each drive. Wont bother now.
[11:40]  * soren lunches
[11:42] <Stonekeeper> hmm. no grub isn't installed on the second mirror
[11:52] <soren> If your boot partition is on raid, the installer should be using lilo, afair.
[12:29] <tzu3l> experiencing curruption issues while debootstrapping a xen domU; packages are corrupt? suggestions welcome
[12:33] <tzu3l> part of the log from xen-create-image W: http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2 was corrupt
[12:43] <_ruben> grub can boot from raid as well
[12:43] <_ruben> (must say i havent tried that with ubuntu tho, but works like a charm on suse)
[12:44] <zul> tzu3l: try a different archive
[12:44] <zul> or a different mirror
[12:48] <_ruben> ScottK: you happen to have any pointers on postfix fine tuning? currently im reading http://www.postfix.org/TUNING_README.html and http://www.postfix.org/QSHAPE_README.html
[12:48] <ScottK> _ruben: That's where I'd have pointed you.
[12:48] <_ruben> ah ok ;)
[12:50] <_ruben> one things that remains a bit vague to me is the (default) queue sizes .. the customer im currently investigating this for, has a mailinglist of ~1 million subscribers .. i'd say the default active queue size of 20K is a bit small, unless im not fully understanding the way those queues work
[12:50] <_ruben> i'll be using 2 loadbalanced mailservers btw, dedicated for this customer
[12:52] <ScottK> I suspect for the active queue that's plenty, but I've not done anything on that scale myself.
[12:53] <_ruben> ah ok
[12:53] <_ruben> i'll make sure to report back when all this goes live ;)
[12:55] <_ruben> the tender will be sent to the customer sometime this week, so hopefully the servers will be ordered shortly
[13:04] <cjwatson> I've been reorganising the seeds of late, and am now at the point where I'd like to split the server seeds out of the Ubuntu seeds (and keep ubuntu.hardy as "Ubuntu desktop")
[13:05] <cjwatson> this will let us delete the server clutter from the Kubuntu etc. seeds, which has always been rather confusing
[13:06] <cjwatson> ... actually, I just realised I can't do this right now as it would involve another Launchpad change and I'm just about out of credit at the moment. Never mind ...
[13:22] <soren> cjwatson: so that leaves us at...
[13:23] <soren> cjwatson: Where we were a few days ago?
[13:23] <cjwatson> staying in ubuntu.hardy for now :-)
[13:23] <soren> noted.
[13:23] <cjwatson> yeah, pretty much, sorry for the excess drama
[13:23] <cjwatson> I'll try to get something figured out on the Launchpad side soonish
[13:23] <soren> No worries.
[13:24]  * _ruben wonders what this seeding thing is about :)
[13:25] <soren> _ruben: The seeds decide where Ubuntu packages go..
[13:26] <soren> For instance, there's a seed that lists all the packages that we want to have on the UBuntu Server cd.
[13:26] <soren> (kind of)
[13:26] <soren> There's a seed for each task, basically.
[13:26] <_ruben> ic
[13:27] <soren> and a few "special" ones.
[13:27] <soren> The one called "server-ship" decides which packages are on the CD, but they're not part of a task per se.
[13:27] <soren> Er..
[13:28] <soren> It's just the technical parts of moving stuff around from task to task and deciding what goes in main, what goes on which cd, etc. Most people needn't worry about it.
[13:28] <_ruben> ah, just curious ;-)
[13:31] <soren> _ruben: That's how you learn new stuff :)
[13:31] <_ruben> yeah, if only i'd just a little less curious ;)
[13:32] <_ruben> everytime i research something, i end up adding 10 other/more things to my to-research list before finishing the first one :p
[13:46] <soren> _ruben: I know the feeling :)
[13:51] <_ruben> soren: im afraid its a common (mis)habit in IT land
[14:49] <Stonekeeper> ubuntu-server with openVZ is really quite special
[14:50] <_ruben> huh? when i do 'apt-get install mail-server^ -s', it shows it'll install postfix and yet also recommends exim4 .. bit strange, no?
[14:50] <lamont> _ruben: only slightly
[14:51] <lamont> something in the pile Depends: exim4 | mail-transport-agent, and mail-server^s Depends: that, I expect
[14:52] <_ruben> ic
[14:52] <_ruben> ah, right .. it recommends both exim4 as well as mail-transfer-agent :)
[14:53] <_ruben> strange nonetheless, im my eyes atleast ;)
[14:53] <_ruben> s/im/in
[15:14] <soulc> damn
[15:15] <soulc> it is hard to go from a distro that installs everything to a distro that you have to know what to install
[15:15] <soulc> I am getting this error and I can't get up
[15:15] <soulc> <?php
[15:17] <_ruben> that doesnt really look like an error to me
[15:18] <soulc> checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... no
[15:18] <soulc> checking for gcc... gcc
[15:18] <soulc> checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... no
[15:18] <soulc> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.
[15:18] <soulc> ah but it got your attention
[15:18] <soulc> |-P
[15:19] <soulc> so what do I install to fix this
[15:19] <soulc> that is the problem.....my ignorance
[15:22] <_ruben> what are you trying to install?
[15:22] <soulc> was it me?
[15:22] <soulc> I have to complie wwwcount
[15:23] <soulc> I do know that it needs dbcomp package
[15:24] <_ruben> might be old version: http://ubuntu.cica.es/guadalinex/repositorio/pool/non-free/w/wwwcount/ .. otherwise: sudo apt-get install build-essential .. that installs the basic stuff for compiling apps
[15:24] <soulc> ah
[15:25] <soulc> where can I get a listing of things that I need to install for xyz
[15:25] <_ruben> if its a .deb package, it'll tell you what you need .. if its a source package, then its up to yourself to figure out
[15:26] <soulc> ok
[15:27] <soulc> thank <fill in blank> that there are these ppl that will help
[15:27] <_ruben> ;)
[15:28] <_ruben> time to head home for me tho, bbl
[15:34] <faulkes-> heh, \sh, you do look very german
[15:35] <atlas95> hello
[15:35] <\sh> faulkes-, well, I could have send also some pictures where I had long hair, but my cameroonian wife didn't like the look of long hair at me...so she made it short...very short
[15:35] <atlas95> I need help for knockd
[15:39] <faulkes-> which reminds me, I have to start planning for oktoberfest
[15:45] <spiekey> hey
[15:45] <spiekey> any idea how i can solve this problem on my gutsy server? http://pastebin.ca/901295
[15:46] <tez> hey
[15:46] <tez> it seems 7.04 is the only version of ubuntu someones gotten to work on my model of computer, 6.06 gets stuck at detecting network hardware :/ 7.10 gets stuck starting the kernel
[15:48] <tez> any ideas on what i can do to stop it from getting stuck at this point?
[15:50] <Stonekeeper> soulc: you play tremulous?
[15:50] <tez> meh
[15:51] <faulkes-> tez: without more information about the specific hardware in your server, it is very difficult to determine what is happening
[15:52] <faulkes-> I would catalog each piece and investigate any known issues which surround them
[15:52] <tez> I'm trying to find the info :<
[15:54] <tez> blah compaq doesnt help with info at all :|
[15:54] <faulkes-> try lspci
[15:54] <tez> oh that worked!
[15:55] <faulkes-> granted, depending on the age of the computer, it may not display every bit of hardware
[15:55] <faulkes-> which means you should also troll through a dmesg
[15:55] <tez> nope. but it shows the ethernet controller: accton technology corporation smc2-1211tx
[15:58] <faulkes-> dmesg should be very specific about what it finds
[15:59] <tez> doesnt show anything about the ethernet controller
[16:00] <tez> hmm. "Fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed!"
[16:01] <faulkes-> dmesg | grep eth0
[16:02] <tez> ohhh
[16:02] <faulkes-> that's an interesting error, anything else related to it (above or below)
[16:03] <tez> im not sure, the line directly below is scheduling while atomic: echo/0x000000001/10433 but i dont really know
[16:03] <tez> and its a RealTek RTL8139
[16:04] <faulkes-> iirc there are issues with the RTL8139 which may or may not have been solved, one sec
[16:10] <faulkes-> paste the lspci line for the network controller and the dmesg output for the eth0 (dmesg | grep eth0)
[16:11] <tez> 0000:01:09.0 Ethernet controller: Accton Technology Corporation SMC2-1211TX (rev 12)
[16:13] <tez> [17179620.632000] eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xc8972000, 00:10:b5:5c:xx:xx, IRQ 5
[16:13] <tez> [17179620.632000] eth0: Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8139B'
[16:15] <spiekey> soren: my nss_ldap vmware problem disapeared with gutsy :)
[16:15] <spiekey> yey
[16:15] <soren> spiekey: Great!
[16:16] <spiekey> now i could try to backport nss_ldap
[16:16] <tez> faulkes-: from what I've seen, it doesn't look like its possible, but maybe there's a way :\
[16:16] <spiekey> what was the backport channel again?
[16:18] <faulkes-> tez: well, from what I can see on the forums, there are known issues with network connectivity with the rtl8139 based chips
[16:18] <tez> gahg
[16:18] <tez> so no way to even get it installed?
[16:18] <faulkes-> I also see at least one person having a boot problem
[16:20] <spiekey> soren: what was the backport channel again?
[16:20] <tez> faulkes-: so it appears all-around unusable?
[16:20] <faulkes-> tez: it may or may not be related, I'm just going on what hardware we now know exists
[16:21] <tez> well considering its stopping at the "Detecting network hardware..." i'm assuming its realted
[16:21] <tez> related*
[16:22] <soren> spiekey: Er... I don't think there is one.
[16:23] <tez> #ubuntu-backports but its small
[16:23] <spiekey> ah, i meant ubuntu-motu :)
[16:25] <tez> ok lol
[16:26] <tez> wtf
[16:27] <tez> running the installer with "noacpi" shows note: udevd[848] exited with preempt_count 1
[16:27] <spiekey> soren: could i just use the configure options from the dpkg source file and install it from source?
[16:28] <faulkes-> tez: I'd look through the forums, search for 8139 or 8139 wake
[16:28] <faulkes-> there is a huge trove of posts which are in some ways similar to your problem (others may not be related)
[16:28] <faulkes-> and as you now have a better understanding of what hardware you have, you can decide which is appropriate
[16:28] <tez> yeah
[16:29] <tez> im still not sure why the kernel doesnt even load in 7.10
[16:29] <soren> spiekey: Why would you?
[16:30] <spiekey> because i need a recent version of nss_ldap?
[16:31] <faulkes-> afternoon soren
[16:36] <soren> spiekey: That's why you want to backport it. Otherwise, upgrades will be a pain.
[16:37] <tez> hmm
[16:38] <tez> looks like i wont be getting anywhere today with ubuntu and this stupid computah
[16:39] <tez> gah i was really hoping i'd be able to get this instlaled
[16:40] <tez> bye everyone
[16:40] <tez> thanks for the help faulkes-, i'll continue looking on the forums, maybe i'll post a topoc
[16:40] <tez> topic(
[16:40] <tez> topic**
[16:48] <spiekey> soren: you mean i just take the source package from gutsy and build/install it on dapper?
[17:11] <Stonekeeper> see ya. Thanks soren.
[17:31] <XiXaQ> does anyone have experience with LTSP? How is video on a webpage when connected to a local network?
[17:35] <faulkes-> havent done anything with ltsp, perhaps other here have
[18:15] <ra21vi> hello
[18:17] <ra21vi> I am working on corporate-site transformation from IIS windows to Ubuntu server based. and right now I am unabe to achieve one basic goal
[18:18] <ra21vi> i am using django, and I want my single server, that alloctaed to me for demo, to have Apache with subdomains
[18:18] <ra21vi> such as www.site.com, and www2.site.com and forums.site.com etc
[18:19] <ra21vi> can it be possible with single server, afaik machine-hostname.domainname.com or whatever, forms the FQDN
[18:19] <ra21vi> so like my server machine name is oss-dev
[18:19] <ra21vi> and domain name is abc.com
[18:19] <ra21vi> so, FQDN would be oss-dev.abc.com
[18:20] <ra21vi> so how can I achieve that goal of having multile subdoamins served from apache
[18:20] <ra21vi> network is CISCO based
[18:20] <ra21vi> please Guide me
[18:22] <leonel> just as you tell apache to server  for  www.site.com  and  www2.site.com  same config  for   oss-dev.abc.com
[18:23] <leonel> all you need is your nameserver to  point  oss-dev.abc.com  to the ip of your apache server
[18:23] <leonel> or your /etc/hosts  in case you cant move  your dns
[18:26] <faulkes-> it would likely also be helpful for you to read the community documentation available at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Servers
[18:31] <ScottK> lamont: requestsync fubar'ed the version wanted in your postfix request.  I fixed it.
[18:32] <lamont> thanks
[18:57] <ScottK> lamont: Your timing was good.  Riddell's already done the sync.
[18:58] <ra21vi> leonel: how does apache knows that the it has been asked to serve the www2 virtuals instead www when I am pointing the same ip for two subdomains
[18:59] <leonel> the protocol sends the hostname you are asking ..
[19:06] <ra21vi> leonel: :) thanks
[19:35] <incorrect> i am lazy these days, is there a web admin tool that will do most things for me?
[19:36] <zul> !ebox
[19:36] <ubotu> ebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See the plans for Hardy at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EboxSpec
[19:36] <incorrect> sweet
[19:38] <incorrect> is there a nas server project based on ubuntu a bit like freenas?
[19:38] <zul> not too my knowledge
[19:39] <incorrect> ah well
[19:39] <incorrect> thanks
[20:05] <good_dana> incorrect: i dont know what it's based on, but if you're looking for NAS software, i'd recommend openfiler
[20:10] <faulkes-> incorrect: iirc there is some work currently on the list for iSCSI targets and such
[20:10] <faulkes-> but I'm not aware of any full projects devoted to NAS stuff for ubuntu specifically
[20:11] <incorrect> i just installed sdb, how do i generate the uuid?
[20:43] <faulkes-> incorrect: once you have partitioned sdb, you can find the uuid by executing the following command
[20:44] <faulkes-> udevinfo -q env -n /dev/sdb<partition #>
[20:44] <faulkes-> the ID_FS_UUID= contains the uuid of the disk such that you could put it into /etc/fstab
[20:46] <faulkes-> again, with all commands someone tells you to run, you should always look at the associated man page first
[20:48] <faulkes-> hmm, I guess whoever that "peer" guy is reset him
[21:33] <Soskel> hi
[21:33] <Soskel> I want to show people a list of installed server software, will running rpm -qa and displaying the results show anyone something.... bad?
[21:40] <faulkes-> considering ubuntu doesn't use rpm for packaging, I don't think it would display anything at all
[22:05] <faulkes-> hrm, perhaps I could have phrased that better, it sounded a little sarcastic
[22:16] <mathiaz> ScottK: thanks. Congrats you too ! :)
[22:20] <faulkes-> ScottK: good news on core-dev I take it?
[22:24] <ScottK> mathiaz: Thanks
[22:24] <ScottK> faulkes-: Yes
[23:01] <faulkes-> ScottK: well, congrats