| lns | ogra_cmpc, haven't you done work with Koolu TCs before? | 00:30 |
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| ari_stress | morning | 01:10 |
| TelnetManta | evening | 01:18 |
| Brenwil | hi all | 08:22 |
| Brenwil | blank | 08:22 |
| lanhelp | hello | 09:12 |
| gaz_hayes_the_2n | hi | 09:12 |
| lanhelp | I have a doubt about thin clients bootup | 09:12 |
| gaz_hayes_the_2n | what happened? | 09:13 |
| gaz_hayes_the_2n | are u using edubuntu? | 09:13 |
| lanhelp | thin clients boots properly, works great | 09:13 |
| gaz_hayes_the_2n | thats a good start hehe | 09:13 |
| lanhelp | but its takes 2 minutes between kernel loading and the start of the boot process | 09:14 |
| lanhelp | sticks on .................Done. | 09:14 |
| gaz_hayes_the_2n | oh ok | 09:14 |
| lanhelp | seems that nothing happens during this time | 09:15 |
| gaz_hayes_the_2n | tell me exactly, what does it say before the ....... | 09:15 |
| lanhelp | 1. kernel loads faster | 09:15 |
| gaz_hayes_the_2n | is it TFTP.................? | 09:15 |
| lanhelp | all the dots ................................... | 09:15 |
| lanhelp | yes | 09:15 |
| gaz_hayes_the_2n | its your network | 09:16 |
| gaz_hayes_the_2n | how many clients do you have? | 09:16 |
| lanhelp | 5 | 09:16 |
| gaz_hayes_the_2n | which type of network card is in the server? | 09:16 |
| lanhelp | the kernel tftp download is very fast | 09:16 |
| lanhelp | 2 seconds to show all the dots | 09:16 |
| gaz_hayes_the_2n | ah | 09:17 |
| gaz_hayes_the_2n | oh ok | 09:17 |
| gaz_hayes_the_2n | thats different | 09:17 |
| lanhelp | the problem is after the tftp | 09:17 |
| gaz_hayes_the_2n | so its actually boot | 09:17 |
| lanhelp | yes | 09:17 |
| gaz_hayes_the_2n | hmmmm, what are your clients? | 09:17 |
| gaz_hayes_the_2n | old pcs? | 09:17 |
| lanhelp | all the clients have this behaviour | 09:17 |
| ogra | edit /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default and remove "quiet" and "splash" that will give you more output than dots ;) | 09:17 |
| lanhelp | pentium 4 | 09:17 |
| lanhelp | 256mb of ram | 09:18 |
| gaz_hayes_the_2n | yeah i think ogra can help you more with this than me | 09:18 |
| lanhelp | after the 2 minutes , it begins to show text output on the screen and its very fast to bring LDM | 09:18 |
| gaz_hayes_the_2n | after you do what ogra says with that file tell us the output | 09:19 |
| lanhelp | I think something is hanging the initial boot proccess | 09:19 |
| lanhelp | ok, I will do that know | 09:19 |
| lanhelp | thanks! | 09:20 |
| lanhelp | removing quiet and splash doesnt show me nothing during the pause | 09:36 |
| lanhelp | i got a new problem! | 09:36 |
| lanhelp | ldm says now that the ws inst authorized to connect | 09:36 |
| lanhelp | I do the command ltsp-update-sshkeys | 09:37 |
| lanhelp | and workstations stopped | 09:37 |
| lanhelp | about the hanging problem, the keyboard doesnt work, numlock or any light change | 09:40 |
| lanhelp | during the 2 minutes | 09:41 |
| lanhelp | it really freezes | 09:41 |
| lanhelp | wich is the next step after tftp download? kernel execution? | 09:44 |
| ogra | the dots you see if quiet is switched on are actually the decompression process of the kernel | 09:44 |
| lanhelp | yes | 09:52 |
| lanhelp | the ws hangs, the keyboard hangs, after 2 minutes text output from bootup process appears and keyboard is functional again | 09:53 |
| lanhelp | the system is working very good after that | 09:54 |
| lanhelp | in some ws, net shows one line, like RHINE LINK ON | 09:55 |
| lanhelp | after ......Done. | 09:55 |
| lanhelp | others not | 09:55 |
| lanhelp | but all ws hangs | 09:55 |
| ogra | is the switch you have sitting between server and clients managed ? | 09:57 |
| lanhelp | no is passive | 10:03 |
| lanhelp | i can try to connect a croosover directly between server and one client to see | 10:06 |
| lanhelp | with 7.04 i got no problem here | 10:08 |
| ogra | was the server that has the prob upgraded or freshly installed ? | 10:08 |
| lanhelp | freshly | 10:09 |
| lanhelp | Im very excited about ltsp in gutsy | 10:09 |
| lanhelp | very reliable | 10:09 |
| lanhelp | its a transport company in brazil | 10:10 |
| lanhelp | we have 5 stations at present time | 10:10 |
| ogra | well, it has its bugs .... we changed a lot of stuff in gutsy that didnt go without damage ... hardy will improve a lot since we didnt do any feature development at all this time ... only bugfixing | 10:10 |
| das-t | ogra: are you a developer? we noticed that some clients that had no problem with 7.04 only boot into a resolution of 800 with 7.10 which is why we will skipp the latest release | 10:12 |
| das-t | i am just about to test this over here @ my end | 10:13 |
| lanhelp | I have 3 ltsp servers working, Im planing | 10:13 |
| lanhelp | to switch to hardy on may | 10:14 |
| lanhelp | im not a dev (yet!) | 10:14 |
| lanhelp | I got the 800x600 prob here | 10:14 |
| lanhelp | in some stations | 10:14 |
| lanhelp | but its solved now | 10:14 |
| lanhelp | all working under gutsy | 10:15 |
| lanhelp | the sound system on 7.10 is very good | 10:15 |
| das-t | with the latest updates? did you get clients running that way that did not work at the beginning of release 7.10? | 10:16 |
| lanhelp | yes | 10:16 |
| lanhelp | one station | 10:16 |
| lanhelp | with nvidia riva tnt card | 10:16 |
| das-t | i heard we have several boxes with this problem, though the installation might not be absolutely up to date as they are located in tansania with a very shaky internet connection ... to say the leaset. | 10:16 |
| das-t | i am from linux4afrika.de | 10:17 |
| RichEd-1 | ogra ? you around | 10:25 |
| gaz_hayes_the_2n | i just installed 7.10, i get "this workstation isn't authorized to connect to server", is this normal? anyone know which file to put allowed hosts in or something like that? | 10:39 |
| gaz_hayes_the_2n | ok im running ltsp-update-image, might work:) | 10:44 |
| das-t | gaz_hayes_the_2n: you found it, you need to update the image if an ip address changes. | 11:12 |
| gaz_hayes_the_2n | ah, yeah, it works now hehe | 11:13 |
| gaz_hayes_the_2n | wow this is much better than k12ltsp which is what i was using before | 11:13 |
| gaz_hayes_the_2n | at least this has a proper implimentation of synaptic | 11:13 |
| highvoltage | RichEd, ogra: ping | 11:19 |
| RichEd | highvoltage:pong | 11:20 |
| highvoltage | RichEd: I think it would be useful if we joined https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-derivatives/2008-February/000081.html meeting | 11:21 |
| highvoltage | RichEd: even though edubuntu wouldn't strictly be a standalone installation, I think many of the common issues (artwork, etc) would still be applicable | 11:21 |
| alkisg | Hi guys! On Edubuntu Gutsy 7.10 my clients take a long time to logon (minutes). I've read on the lists that it may be a DNS server fault. Question: why do I need a DNS server? My router is on another subnet, the LTSP server has access to it, but not the clients. Do I have to install a DNS server to my LTSP server? Can I work around it with option root-path "192.168.0.254:/opt/ltsp/i386"; in lts.conf? | 11:28 |
| alkisg | (router = existing DNS server) | 11:28 |
| RichEd | === edubuntu/education meeting in #ubuntu-meeting = 25 mins === | 11:35 |
| RichEd | === edubuntu/education meeting in #ubuntu-meeting = 3 mins === | 11:58 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | grr. | 12:03 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | RichEd, will it be long? | 12:03 |
| * stgraber waves | 12:03 | |
| RichEd | Kamping_Kaiser: not too sure ... prolly not | 12:03 |
| RichEd | just found out that the fridge puts the meeting an hour later than usual :( | 12:04 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :/ DST? | 12:05 |
| RichEd | Kamping_Kaiser: something funny somewhere | 12:06 |
| RichEd | === edubuntu/education meeting in #ubuntu-meeting = delayed for an hour === | 12:06 |
| RichEd | sorry guys ... the fridge schedule was incorrect | 12:07 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | these things happen | 12:07 |
| RichEd | i think we should stick to the advertised time | 12:07 |
| RichEd | Kamping_Kaiser: if you need the sleep, we'll understand if you are not around :) | 12:07 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | RichEd, i'm about to head off, its been a long day :) | 12:09 |
| * RichEd excuses Kamping_Kaiser from active duty for the extended day | 12:10 | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser switches to inactive duty | 12:10 | |
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| RichEd | !seen ogra | 12:54 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about seen ogra - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 12:54 |
| RichEd | highvoltage: what's happened to edubuntugirl ? | 12:54 |
| highvoltage | she's misbehaving again | 12:55 |
| * highvoltage should pay more attention to her | 12:55 | |
| highvoltage | actually, I think I should just install a newer version of her software | 12:56 |
| highvoltage | should go quickly, I'll do it tonight! | 12:56 |
| RichEd | highvoltage: well that's what happens when you name a bot as a her ... moody, misbehaving, demands attention | 12:56 |
| highvoltage | RichEd: ssssh, careful! | 12:57 |
| RichEd | === edubuntu/education meeting in #ubuntu-meeting = 2 mins === | 12:59 |
| RichEd | will probably be a short meeting ... ogra does not seem to be available today | 13:00 |
| stgraber | RichEd, ogra: Sorry guys, I had managed to have the 12:00-13:00 hour free for the IRC meeting but not 13:00-14:00 :( | 14:25 |
| RichEd | stgraber: no problem ... ogra gave us the good news <ogra> italc is uploaded | 14:26 |
| RichEd | and i gave thanks to you for the work on that | 14:26 |
| stgraber | still some bugs to fix though, it seems that all crashes aren't fixed yet. Anyway, the goal was to have it uploaded before FF and with a reasonable stability | 14:27 |
| stgraber | which I tink we have | 14:27 |
| stgraber | now we have some months to fix the remaining bugs | 14:27 |
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| random0ne | greetings | 21:00 |
| random0ne | has anyone encountered a policy authorizing or encouraging the use of open source licensing? i am writing a proposal for our technology department | 21:01 |
| pygi | random0ne, what do you mean? Our government for example issued some papers that encourage usage of open source products | 21:01 |
| random0ne | i am tired of asking for approval to use open source licenses | 21:02 |
| random0ne | pygi: i want to submit a policy recommendation that makes osi licenses the norm and proprietary the exception | 21:03 |
| random0ne | pygi: any links you have would be greatly appriciated | 21:03 |
| pygi | random0ne, even If I had them, they're not in english | 21:04 |
| random0ne | pygi: heh. english is the only language i'm any good in :( | 21:04 |
| pygi | random0ne, however ... I'd be happy to advise you when you have something ready? :) | 21:05 |
| random0ne | pygi: excellent | 21:06 |
| pygi | random0ne, are you registered at freenode? | 21:07 |
| pygi | I can pm you my mail | 21:07 |
| random0ne | my nick is registered, if that is what you mean. | 21:07 |
| pygi | random0ne, ok, you got pm =) | 21:23 |
| pygi | hey LaserJock folk :) | 21:23 |
| random0ne | i'm surprised i can't find any examples of policiies | 21:25 |
| pygi | random0ne, just write something, and we'll try to come up with something sane :) | 21:26 |
| random0ne | pygi: heh | 21:26 |
| LaserJock | hi pygi | 21:28 |
| random0ne | found something! http://www.utexas.edu/vp/it/policies/opensource.php | 21:35 |
| fredsua | Hi there. I am a newbie to the linus system. I was in the process of intalling edubuntu on my laptop and it seems to freeze up. | 21:49 |
| fredsua | I have a 930Mhz Pentium 3, 10G HD and 256RAM | 21:50 |
| fredsua | Right now it is frozen in the "installing system" at 15% | 21:50 |
| fredsua | Help! | 21:50 |
| fredsua | Can anyone help? | 21:53 |
| fredsua | help!!! | 21:55 |
| laga | fredsua: calm down. | 21:57 |
| laga | fredsua: if someone has an answer/hint, they'll let you know. not everyone in here is online all the time | 21:57 |
| laga | fredsua: maybe it just needs a while? | 21:57 |
| fredsua | unfortunately its been like this for more than 15 minutes | 22:00 |
| random0ne | fredsua: you could try a different installer. many laptops have specialized hardware and there are some differences in the kernels used by the different installers | 22:09 |
| random0ne | fredsua: have you googled edubuntu OR ubuntu YOURLAPTOPMODEL? | 22:09 |
| fredsua | I was just googleing this subject. | 22:14 |
| fredsua | It turns out that I need to download Ubuntu Alternate and install it | 22:15 |
| random0ne | fredsua: nicely done | 22:16 |
| fredsua | then run edubuntu-desktop | 22:16 |
| fredsua | I wonder why edubuntu doesn't install right? | 22:17 |
| random0ne | fredsua: specialized laptop hardware | 22:18 |
| stgraber | fredsua: the live environment (graphic install) requires at least 300MB of RAM in order to work correctly | 22:20 |
| stgraber | fredsua: so you indeed need the alternate installer which is text based and works fine with low amount of RAM | 22:20 |
| stgraber | fredsua: the desktop once installed will work correctly with your 256MB, the RAM amount is only a problem during the installation | 22:21 |
| fredsua | I see, thanks for the info. As a newbie, this information is readily available in the Ubuntu website and it is a bit frustrating some times. | 22:23 |
| fredsua | I meant to say, is not readily available. :-) | 22:24 |
| johnny | you could be the first to add it :) | 22:24 |
| Goosemoose | When is edubuntu releasing a hardy version? | 22:26 |
| LaserJock | Goosemoose: same day as everybody else :-) | 22:28 |
| LaserJock | Goosemoose: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule for the details | 22:29 |
| Goosemoose | ok, im looking at one of the features in it and trying to figure out if i should postpone my 200 computer rollout | 22:29 |
| stgraber | Goosemoose: which one ? | 22:29 |
| Goosemoose | likewise | 22:30 |
| Goosemoose | hey stgraber | 22:30 |
| Goosemoose | i want the active directory login to work | 22:30 |
| Goosemoose | If it will work with the preseed I have right now with edubuntu then I can do that | 22:30 |
| Goosemoose | I know dendrobates says he updated a new build of it | 22:30 |
| Goosemoose | oh man, in april | 22:31 |
| Goosemoose | would definitely rather do this now | 22:31 |
| Goosemoose | anyone using likewise? | 22:31 |
| Goosemoose | http://www.likewisesoftware.com/products/likewise_open/ | 22:31 |
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