=== nosrednaekim is now known as nosredna_ekim === nosredna_ekim is now known as nosrednaekim [00:08] mhb➜ m... h....b works :) [00:09] em age bee ? [00:10] ya :) [00:10] you can't say it fast [00:10] you can't say mine fast either ;) [00:12] mine is easy [00:24] http://technology.desktopnexus.com/wallpaper/8160/ [00:24] :p [00:27] nixternal: lol :P [00:27] nosrednaekim: ping [00:27] hey mhb [00:28] nosrednaekim: how do you implement QApplication() in your apps? [00:28] nosrednaekim: I mean the main ctor [00:28] QApplication(sys.argv) for example (python) [00:29] do you stick it with the UI and make sure you'll init the UI only once? [00:29] to tell you the truth, I usually just copy a skeleton program I have(which I did not write),but let me check to see how I do it. [00:34] oh... I am looking at one that uses Kapplication, dopes that behave the same way? [00:35] I guess so [00:37] I don't put the sys.argv in mine.... [00:37] I suppose I should :) [00:37] * mhb yawns [00:37] I can't stay awake anymore... [00:37] too bad. [00:37] goodnight folks [00:44] night [02:41] anyone else with amd64 having issues with libgs8 when trying to install okular-kde4? [02:45] for the package? no... it installed fine for me [02:50] it isn't installing for me [02:50] I need to reinstall my desktop anyways [04:42] evening [05:25] !openoffice hardy [05:25] !OOO hardy [05:25] Sorry, I don't know anything about ooo hardy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [05:25] ~openoffice.org [05:25] !openoffice.org [05:25] a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components. To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org [05:25] !openoffice.org hardy [05:25] !hardy openoffice.org [05:25] argh what version of open office.org is in hardy? [05:26] !info openoffice.org hardy [05:26] !info openoffice.org hardy [05:26] openoffice.org (source: openoffice.org): OpenOffice.org Office suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.3.1-3ubuntu3 (hardy), package size 4 kB, installed size 44 kB [05:26] so version 2.3 [05:27] !info firefox hardy [05:27] firefox (source: firefox): lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.12+2nobinonly+2-0ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 8964 kB, installed size 26032 kB [05:36] ok heres a wierd question, how do i access help in 8.04? [05:37] in a kde4 session? [05:39] do you have khelpcenter-kde4 installed? [05:45] i thought so, shouldn't that be a part of 8.04? [05:47] I don't think it's installed with -core [05:47] apparently i didn't [05:47] thanks stdin [05:47] probablly should be so the 8.04 kde4 users can access help :) [05:50] hrmmm now all i need is kubuntu docs :) === hunger_t_ is now known as hunger === \sh_away is now known as \sh === \sh is now known as \sh_away === \sh_away is now known as \sh [09:25] <_StefanS_> kwwii: nuno had to go to spain today, so he couldnt finish the last 3 buttons :( , anyway here's a screenshot: http://enhance-it.dk/pics/kwin-crystal.png (not that its only the dark ones that are new) [09:33] hey there [09:33] Riddell: fancy testing kdesudo-kde4 ? [09:34] Tonio_: bien sur [09:35] Riddell: http://toniox.org/temp [09:36] Riddell: a few very little issues atm, like kapplication doesn't quit on cancel, but that should have very few consequences [09:36] Riddell: I tested with the "run dolphin as root", and it seems to work [09:36] Riddell: the nonewdcop option is still there for scripts compatilibity with kde3 (kdesu does the same) [09:37] Riddell: do you know of any gnome or kde application that can graphically crypt and decrypt folders on the fly ? [09:38] I do not [09:38] kdesudo(343) main: desktop file "" [09:38] kdesudo(343) main: executable "ls" [09:38] some debugging there that isn't needed [09:39] it seems to touch both /var/run/sudo/jr/unknown and /var/run/sudo/jr/3 timestamps [09:39] Riddell: Now that I can upload (thanks for your support), do you want me to check with you first on doing merges or go ahead if I'm confident? [09:39] Riddell: that's for testing :) [09:40] Riddell: It's not meant to be released yet, I have to perform a hudge bunch of tests and then remove the debugging things [09:40] Riddell: it touches "unknown" ? weird.... [09:41] it shouldn't unless sudo does the same (we have a kprocess using a pty here...) [09:41] ScottK: all depends on how confident you are :) [09:41] Riddell: OK. Thanks. [09:41] I'll ask if I have questions. [09:44] Tonio_: otherwise, does the job superbly [09:44] Riddell: there is still a bug with -u option, as for some reason the Xauthority file created isn't chmoded 644 [09:45] Riddell: I suspect I have to "open" the QFile object so that I can play with it... [09:45] Riddell: don't you get a Xsession error playing with -u option ? [09:45] Riddell: that's the only bug I noted atm :) [09:46] Tonio_: yes but that's also broken with kdesudo of kde 3 [09:46] Riddell: true, but now I know how to fix it :) [09:47] Riddell: also I simplified the Xauthority code a lot, for 40 lines to 5 :) [09:47] still works like a charm :) [09:47] Tonio_: your c++ skillz are getting elite [09:47] Riddell: very far from that I'm affraid, toma helped a lot on the QT4 side as I was completly unable to write to the kprocess stdin ;) [09:48] Riddell: I still have to learn, but I'll probably ask my company some lessons arround coding :) === mzungu_afk is now known as mzungu [10:23] Riddell: I'll release kdesudo-kde4 and ubuntu packages this WE probably, after a bunch of tests, so we'll have it for hardy [10:23] Riddell: I noticed I can't logout/shutdown from within my kde session for a few days [10:24] Riddell: that doesn't happen from kdm so it seems due to kde somehow, is that known issue ? [10:27] <_StefanS_> hey Tonio_ [10:27] yop _StefanS_ :) [10:28] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: polishing kdmtheme right now :) [10:28] _StefanS_: super :) [10:28] _StefanS_: on my side I'm almost done with kdesudo-kde4 :) [10:28] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: thats sweet :) congrats on the port! [10:28] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: that shutdown issue, was that in kde3? [10:29] Warning: Kubuntu hamsters at work. Please proceed with caution. [10:31] Tonio_: feature freeze is thursday [10:31] logout works for me [10:32] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I have the new buttons for kwin-style-crystal as well, donno mhb seemed to like them, but they need a bit of polish. [10:32] <_StefanS_> Riddell: we could upload an updated package, and enable/fix the theme later [10:32] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I got nuno pinheiro to help me :) [10:33] new buttons? [10:33] _StefanS_: screenshot? ;) [10:36] _StefanS_: go ahead [10:37] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I will :) [10:37] <_StefanS_> smarter: http://enhance-it.dk/pics/kwin-crystal.png [10:37] <_StefanS_> smarter: only the darker buttons, and the coloring is not complete [10:37] <_StefanS_> smarter: bear with me ;) [10:38] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: that FACESOURCE thingy in the kdm.d/20_config, we dont change it, do we? [10:38] _StefanS_: They already look pretty cool ;) [10:38] <_StefanS_> smarter: i'm glad you think so :) [11:16] Riddell: unfortunatelly, we will not have a full apt:/ support in konqueror [11:16] Riddell: the repository management will not be implemented, but isn't much used over the web and wikis, so I think it is okay [11:17] _StefanS_: we do, change the facesource to use the kde user icon choosen in systemsettings by default [11:17] _StefanS_: it works, so no need to change anything on that point [11:17] _StefanS_: I didn't want to do it the hard way in kdmrc, so I used the 20_config mecanism [11:21] Riddell: [11:22] I always thought FF starts at midnight [11:22] but in fact we do have time until midnight at 14th, right? [11:23] <_StefanS_> mhb: I believe we do. [11:23] that's great [11:24] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: right now I'm just hardcoding it to FACESOURC="PreferUser" [11:25] So I have passed bachelor's final state exams. Oi. [11:26] oi oi, congratulations! [11:26] :) Thanks. [11:26] congrats [11:31] mornfall: yay! [11:31] mhb: could even be midnight in some US timezone if you wanted [11:32] Tonio_: will the rest get in? [11:32] mhb: does this mean you expect to have a jockey qt around then? [11:32] Riddell: yes, I passed the last exam yesterday, so I should have it ready by today evening or late night [11:33] Riddell: with the extra day I'm sure we can manage merging it and uploading it [11:33] mhb: yay! [11:33] (to both) [11:43] apachelogger__: a suggestion [11:43] apachelogger__: not even for you, but for someone you know [11:43] apachelogger__: at kubuntu-de.org, you have "Eine Englische Übersetzung ist hier zu finden." [11:43] apachelogger__: which is neat, except you cannot take for granted that the English reader understands this sentence [11:46] mhb, In der englischen Version steht dafür auf englisch wo man die deutsche Version findet ... [11:49] emonkey: yes, but when an Englishman sees the first site, the german one, he cannot find the English translation easily [11:49] it's better to write the link to the German translation in German and the link to the English one in English [11:51] mhb, or both in both ... I forward the suggestion [11:52] mhb, if you want, you always find us in #kubuntu-de.org our administrative channel [11:53] emonkey: okay,thanks! [12:01] Riddell: the rest is already in, apt://yakuake will install yakuake [12:01] Riddell: install and remove any package is supported, only the repository addition isn't [12:01] Tonio_: groovy [12:02] Riddell: and since we're going kde4, this is too much to do for kde3.... [12:02] Riddell: I'll contact debian to get their plans concerning kde4 and kio-apt [12:02] you think they have any? [12:02] Riddell: I never saw any link using the repository addition so we might be 90% compatible with the apt:/ protocol in its real usage [12:03] Riddell: of course not :) but I expect they'll have ;) [12:03] Riddell: if they don't, I'll probably code one on my own, removing all the html part of it to just deal with urls [12:03] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: do you have time for at kdmtheme test? [12:03] _StefanS_: not today, I'm going in a conf call with canonical :) [12:03] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: ok [12:04] _StefanS_: please send me an email, I can test tonight for sure [12:04] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: it seems to work here, so I guess I will just prepare a patch [12:04] please do, I'll test and upload if that's correct [12:04] <_StefanS_> cool [12:05] Riddell: also, browsing apt:/ will allow you to install any package graphically using adept [12:08] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: btw, we should alter the way gdebi works to accept multiple selected debs in one go. For instance I had the nxclient, nxnode, and nxserver and they depend on eachother. Gdebi opened three instances. [12:12] _StefanS_: yep it doesn't have a queue mode, I agree this would be nice [12:13] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: hmm can you remember that bug we had where kdesu(do) wasnt launched correctly from within system-settings/apperance ? [12:13] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I'm experincing it right now.. [12:13] _StefanS_: fixed ;) [12:13] _StefanS_: hu ? [12:14] _StefanS_: on hardy stable it is supposed to be fixede [12:14] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: is there a divert thing i need to redo somewhere? [12:14] _StefanS_: using hardy ? [12:14] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: yes [12:14] _StefanS_: sudo apt-get remove --purge kdesudo && sudo apt-get install kdesudo [12:14] _StefanS_: which module is causing the issue ? [12:15] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: kdm [12:15] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: kdmtheme [12:15] _StefanS_: appearance/fonts installer works for me [12:15] _StefanS_: can be an issue in the kcm module more than kdesudo [12:15] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I guess its kdmtheme itself that is having probs [12:15] <_StefanS_> ;) [12:15] _StefanS_: I'll test and investigate this toonight [12:15] _StefanS_: please remove kdesudo and test with kdesu to see if that works better [12:15] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: maybe I just need to rebuild it again or something [12:15] maybe yes..... [12:16] _StefanS_: I added this to my todo list and will investigate toonight [12:16] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: well it works with kdesu :( [12:16] _StefanS_: oki so it might be a problem with one command line option then [12:16] <_StefanS_> oka [12:16] or the -u functionnality broken with sudo [12:18] _StefanS_: confirmed..... I'll investigate, but I suspect a problem in the kcontrol module more than kdesudo [12:18] _StefanS_: shouldn't be hard tu fox [12:18] fix [12:18] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: yes, but cant you remember that thing where it checked for uid=0 or something like that [12:18] do we still need the "flash is broken" message in #kubuntu 's topic? [12:18] _StefanS_: yep [12:18] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: or was that an entirely different bug.. hmm [12:18] * _StefanS_ is getting old. [12:18] ryanakca: it is patially fixed, but still randomly crashes for me on soem websites (yahoo) [12:19] Tonio_: okies [12:19] _StefanS_: can't say I'll test with the debug version of kdesudo and we'll see :) [12:19] _StefanS_: I'll know more toonight [12:19] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: do you know how to make a screenshot of the kdm greeter? is there a commandline tool for it? [12:19] _StefanS_: virtualbox is your friend :) [12:19] or command line tools with :0.0 display [12:19] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: got vmware.. just wondered if there were an easier way [12:20] screendump probably [12:20] _StefanS_: aptitude instal scrot [12:20] *install [12:20] <_StefanS_> smarter: thanks :) [12:20] smarter: what's that ? [12:20] smarter: like screendump ? [12:20] I don't know screendump [12:20] but I guess it's the same ;) [12:21] you can take screenshots with imagemagick too I think [12:21] import -window root screen.png [12:28] <_StefanS_> doesnt seem like either of them accepts 0.0 or similar [12:29] <_StefanS_> ah found a way [13:03] mornin' [13:05] libokularcore1-kde4: Depends: libgs8 (= 8.61.dfsg.1-1) but 8.61.dfsg.1-1ubuntu1 is installed [13:06] digikam: Depends: libexiv2-0 but it is not installable [13:06] :/ [13:06] yup [13:06] I noticed it yesterday on amd64, and see it this morning on i386 [13:07] yeah 386 hardy here [13:10] * Jucato waves to nixternal [13:14] Riddell: could you please reject my qdevelop package from NEW so that I can re-upload with debhelper compat 5 to make it possible to backport the package? [13:15] * Riddell looks [13:15] smarter: done [13:15] Riddell: thanks [13:17] * nixternal waves back to Jucato [13:30] Riddell: have you seen bug #179261 and stdin's fix? [13:30] Launchpad bug 179261 in qt4-x11 "libqt4-sql does not include QODBC" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179261 [13:30] the bug is more important than it looks like [13:30] don't believe I have [13:30] latest libqt4 doesn't provide any sql driver [13:32] Apparently there's some bashisms in Qt configure code [13:40] nice interview apachelogger__ [13:41] nosrednaekim: where's that? [13:41] smarter: uploaded, thanks stdin [13:41] kubuntu-de [13:41] Riddell: great [13:42] Riddell➜ http://www.kubuntu-de.org/english/interview-harald-sitter-about-amarok-and-kde-4 [13:42] "FREE SOFTWARE RULEZ!" that must be an Austrian-ism [13:43] hi there [13:44] hey doc__ [13:52] sebas: is there a changes document for 3.5.9 yet? [13:52] oh yes http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_5_8to3_5_9.php [13:58] hmm not much there [14:00] IS! [14:04] Riddell: small maybe for openweek, I'm getting therapy times for some of these days, I try to avoid overlapping but possibility still [14:07] Tm_T: "some of these days" you're only down for one hour [14:08] Riddell: yup, but therapy can be heavy, so no idea if I'm "up" [14:09] Tm_T: let me know when you know what's happening then [14:10] Riddell: I will :) [14:11] prolly nothing to be worried but wanted to notify just in case [14:22] Um. Anyone understands how the SUBST thing in Debconf works? [14:22] All the code I can read suggests it just replaces whole field. But man 7 debconf-devel has something about ${key} in it. [14:22] What that means is completely beyond me... [14:25] I'll implement it as synonym to DATA for now, if it breaks in alpha 3, I'll ponder more about it. [14:30] mornfall: no idea I'm afraid [14:31] Riddell: Could you man 7 debconf-devel and look for SUBST? Maybe the documentation makes some sense to you... [14:32] (line 343) [14:33] The only other interpretation I can think of is that if key==Choices, replace choices with value, otherwise replace ${key} in description with value. [14:33] But I could not find any code in debconf that would support that theory. [14:34] it reads a bit like you can change parts of the question [14:36] Ooooh. [14:37] I understand now. Tee-hee. [14:38] mornfall: more than I do :) [14:38] I have been reading code in the meantime. [14:39] And figured that subst only sets up a key=value pair and the expansion is done independently. [14:39] (Later.) [14:39] Anyway, let's fix this. === santiago-php is now known as foursixnine [15:04] Ok, implemented. [15:05] So we are missing multiselect debconf widget and then it should be all complete. [15:08] mornfall: all very exciting [15:40] * mornfall smacks Qt for giving different text() than we set with setText() (ie. it adds &'s)... Anyhow, we have working multiselect. [15:42] whee [15:43] multiselect for what? [15:46] smarter: debconf widgets in Adept [15:46] sweet :) [15:46] So. [15:47] I suppose there are enough changes to make an alpha3 and then work on commit robustness and locking issues. [15:48] mornfall: do you plan to make it possible to set a proxy or use konqueror proxy for apt on the fly ? ;) === foursixnine is now known as santiago-ve [15:50] mornfall: if you're packaging alpha 3 at some point, the kde.mk probably needs updated, menu .desktop files are moved to /usr/share/applications/kde4/ [15:51] http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/kde.mk [15:55] ooh, I see the initial kubuntu-kde4-desktop seed!! rock on Riddell! [15:57] does it mean hardy kde4 cd is nigh? [15:57] mhb: maybe maye [15:58] mhb: maybe maybe [15:58] oh goodie [15:59] mostly waiting on this being published https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-kde4-meta [15:59] I cannot wait! I will wait for that to redo my desktop :) [15:59] do take a look at the kubuntu-kde4.hardy seed to see if it's get everything we need [16:00] * nixternal looks [16:00] pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy: Depends: kdelibs5-dev which is a virtual package. [16:01] Riddell: will you be able to update that seed prior to release? ie. jjesse and I will be adding some Kubuntu KDE 4 documentation [16:01] Riddell: What's the right Build-Depends: for hardy for kdelibs5? [16:01] not much right now, but at least to have some About Kubuntu and some release notes [16:01] mornfall: mm, should be kdelibs5-dev [16:01] mornfall: kdelibs5-dev [16:01] (>= 4:4.0.1) [16:01] Anyone here using pbuilder? [16:01] same in debian too [16:02] mornfall: I am [16:02] In debian it works. In hardy, apparently not : - (. [16:02] mornfall: it's in universe in hardy, is that enabled in sources.list? [16:02] Okey, that could be the problem. [16:04] * Riddell goes out for a wee bit [16:08] I'm out as well while pbuilder is fetching build-depends and such. Laters. === Mez__ is now known as Mez [16:40] So, alpha 3 built in pbuilder, waiting for PPA to crunch it. [16:41] Tm_T: If you are still interested, you may want to give it a go. https://launchpad.net/~me-mornfall/+archive [16:43] I am, though apparently lost a quite bit of time [16:48] What do you mean? [16:48] health issues [16:48] and live with it :-O [16:49] : - ( [16:49] What's happened? (Unless you prefer to not talk about it.) [16:50] nothing serious, just small backsteps when zooming forward, my mind and body has been in pieces now some years but getting better fast [16:53] mmh, fsck progress in usplash... https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/hardy-changes/2008-February/006889.html [16:56] smarter: yeah, pitti commented on it in #u-devel yesterday :) === mornfall_ is now known as mornfall === Mez_ is now known as Mez [18:03] meeting next week? [18:04] seems that way [18:07] smarter: Did you get mail saying why qdevelop got rejected? [18:07] ScottK: I asked R!ddell to reject it [18:07] Why? [18:07] so that I could upload a compat 5 version [18:07] to make it easier to backport it [18:08] smarter: OK. It would have been fine to let it get accepted and then upload an ubuntu2 revision that had that change. [18:09] smarter: In the future, it'd be nice to mention that to the person who uploaded the package as they get reject mail too and I was left wondering what mistake I'd made in my review. [18:09] ScottK: ok, sorry, I didn't know that the uploader get a mail [18:10] OK. Now you know . === rouzic_ausente is now known as rouzic [19:58] Riddell: do you remember who took knetworkmanager notes at the release party bof; and was it till who said he would mock up some of our ideas? [20:07] seele: bille? [20:16] Riddell: i dunno, is that till adams' irc nick? [20:17] yes it is [20:17] no, wait [20:17] er no [20:17] i'm thinking of will [20:17] not till [20:17] haha [20:17] Will Stephenson is bille [20:17] meh [20:17] till is german, will is english, and i think they look the same [20:17] i get them mixed up all the time [20:17] tilladam and bille, when I learn to remember these [20:18] it doesnt help that till has a perfect english accent either [20:31] 4.0.2 is end of feb or start of March? [20:36] DaSkreech: aren't they more/less the same? :) [20:36] They are like a week apart :) === uga|away is now known as uga [20:40] seele: no will stephenson [20:40] yeah === \sh is now known as \sh_away [21:43] will firefox in hardy be 3.0? or still 2? [21:43] jjesse: we have firefox 3b3 in the repos [21:43] 3.0 [21:44] i kno 3b3 is in the repos [21:44] !info firefox hardy [21:44] firefox (source: firefox): lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.12+2nobinonly+2-0ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 8964 kB, installed size 26032 kB [21:44] heh lightweight [21:44] !info firefox-3.0 hardy [21:44] firefox-3.0 (source: firefox-3.0): lightweight web browser based on Mozilla (Development Version). In component main, is optional. Version 3.0~b3~cvs20080101t1000+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 1077 kB, installed size 3704 kB [21:45] mhb: whatt is default? [21:45] jjesse: I think 2 but 3 is suggested , at least so it was when I upgraded [21:45] but seeing firefox3 in main I'd guess they dump the 2 [21:45] so in the book chpt i can say fireffox is version?????????? [21:46] jeez [21:46] I am not a reliable source of that info [21:46] #ubuntu-devel is where you should seek your answers for GNOME stuff === {toma} is now known as toma [21:51] hmmmm [21:51] I keep wondering... [21:51] hrrmm what? [21:51] jcastro: wake up [21:51] according to #ubuuntu-devel it will be 3.0 [21:52] jjesse: jcastro asked nick of mine, but, mmmmh, nothing since I've been here [21:52] i'm so tired [21:53] I am too [21:54] its wierd how being 3 hours behind your normal schedule changes things [21:54] Tm_T: sorry, hi. [21:54] Yes - Changes <3 [21:54] jcastro: hey no problems, I was just worried if I have done something really bad [21:54] isn't that usually the case :P [21:54] well it is [21:54] heh [21:54] that's why I'm worried about it === _czessi is now known as Czessi [21:56] Riddell: ping? [21:57] I need a skilled Python/Qt coder to help me [21:57] not me (yet) [21:57] I need to launch QApplication() only once in the whole app [21:57] not it [21:59] but when I do it in a different .py file than the jockey-kde code is, it still complains to me [21:59] so I do [21:59] qapp = QApplication(sys.argv) [21:59] self.ui = KDEUI() [21:59] and I get [21:59] QWidget: Must construct a QApplication before a QPaintDevice [22:01] and I really need advice :o) [22:02] mhb: hmm, dunno, I'd probably need to look at the full code [22:02] okies, let me commit [22:04] https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~martin.bohm/jockey/jockey-kde [22:04] r154 is the latest [22:05] ./tests/run-qt is the culprit [22:05] you can test it by running PYTHONPATH=. ./tests/run-qt [22:06] ImportError: No module named jockey.ui [22:06] ok, got it [22:06] launching UI [22:06] QWidget: Must construct a QApplication before a QPaintDevice [22:08] right [22:08] mhb: there's no QApplication in tests/run-qt [22:08] there is [22:08] :37 ? [22:09] KDEUI = getattr(imp.load_source('mod_gtk_impl', os.path.join(root_dir, [22:09] 'kde', 'jockey-kde')), 'KDEUI') [22:09] I don't understand what that does [22:10] me either [22:10] the test suite is a quick copy from the gtk one [22:10] and it worked [22:10] for one test case [22:10] but with two, KDEUI() has to be called several times, so I needed to get rid of the QApplication in the kde/jockey-kde [22:11] (because calling QApplication twice results in a segfault too) [22:15] so I need to call QApplication() from within the tests/run-qt file [22:15] but then I get this error. [22:23] blamo! [22:23] mhb: self.qapp = QApplication(sys.argv) [22:24] if it's not self. it's not a class variable and it gets deleted at the end of the method [22:24] ah [22:24] true. [22:24] thanks [22:25] hmm [22:25] strange [22:25] Riddell: the real fix is to move the qapp to :71 [22:26] Riddell: I was just testing it inside the class because I thought it didn't work before. Well, I was mistaken. [22:30] Riddell: in my hardy install (kde4) i did not have the kde4-khelpcenter installed so i couldn't opne up help [22:30] should i file a bug? [22:31] jjesse: the brand new kubuntu-kde4-desktop package depends on kde4-khelpcenter [22:31] smarter: ah cool [22:31] there's be plenty of issues like that when CDs get made, most of them will be obvious [22:31] and some other useful things, like kwalletmanager-kde4 [22:32] just was trying to finish the book chapter last night and noticed i couldn't access help [22:32] mmh, apparently khelpcenter is empty [22:33] yes yes it is [22:33] details details [22:33] i have no idea what/if any kde docs were rev'ed released for kde4 [22:34] I don't think any have been deleted [22:34] it'll be a bug in the packaging [22:34] hmm, how do we load files from a Qt app? [22:34] I want to load the tray icon image, but that depends on the actual path, doesn't it? [22:35]