oloughlin75luigi - /join #ubuntu-it00:00
yerethnosrednaekim: it's not there00:00
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denisok, thanks guys. Now it doesn't show anymore the possibility to upgrade00:00
luigianyone in italian channel!!!00:00
copaceticLook and find out.00:01
denisI guess you have to learn English ;-)00:01
Arwenhttp://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=1815 <-- whoa, Photoshop really runs in WINE now? Awesome.00:01
nosrednaekimyereth➜ hrm.... you may have to manually add it00:01
oloughlin75Any other java ides recommended before i go ahead and install eclipse???/00:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ide - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:02
yerethnosrednaekim: where did make put it? :/00:03
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.00:03
yerethnosrednaekim: doesn't seem to be in the folder I was in00:03
nosrednaekimyereth➜ probably right there in that folder.00:03
luigii've just buy a new pc... i'm going to put ubuntu in. it's better to use 32 or 64 bit version?00:03
intelikeyguess not.00:03
oloughlin75intelikey: I am not looking java00:03
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copaceticArwen, Use GIMP :D00:03
intelikeyoloughlin75 didn't say you were.  just looking for a bot listing of ide's00:04
biovoreluigi: if your asking.. you probably want to use the 32bit version..00:04
Arwencopacetic, ...no00:04
Arwenbesides, that was just a statement of disbelief00:04
luigibiovore. not at all... i wanna know the real benefit00:04
Arwenit used to not work at all00:04
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biovoreluigi: there really isn't any unless you got more then 4GB of ram00:05
copaceticI personally don't like using wine.00:05
intelikeywine is wine is not an emulator00:06
luigibiovore so, it's better just for the ram!00:06
biovoreluigi: 64bit has complications when dealing with closed source stuff and things like flash.00:06
flipstarbiovore: luigi sure there is an advantage in 64bit in some applications..but also disadvantages00:06
luigibiovore well, this is my question!00:06
yerethnosrednaekim: what's the extension of a theme?00:07
* intelikey is ready for a 64 bit system. he also has trouble with closed source stuff and flash...00:07
copaceticI'm off. Ta00:07
denisoh, a gril :-)00:07
denisäh girl00:07
nosrednaekimyereth➜ .kth? or .thm?00:07
yerethI see some domino*.so files00:07
yerethnosrednaekim: with locate00:08
nosrednaekimyereth➜ not them...00:08
yerethnosrednaekim: and /usr/share/apps/kstyle/themes/domino.themerc00:08
nosrednaekimTecmi➜ thats the one!00:08
flipstarluigi: i still would recommend 32bit since there will be no troubles with some special packages and apps00:08
saraI set a friend up with gutsy gibbon on a dual-core machine , everything went fine but a few updates later no sound. He uses onboard soundcard. Is there a way to get ubuntu to reinstall sound drivers?00:08
yerethnosrednaekim: but kcontrol doesn't recognize it as a theme00:08
MrJigsawWhat client do you guys use for skype @ linux +00:09
intelikeysara you don't install drivers  per'se   you insert the kernel module00:09
biovoresara: probably the intel-HD sound..  One of the kernels dosn't have the drive for it in it for some reason..  You probably got an update that updated the kernel to a version that dosn't have the intel-HD sound driver in it.00:09
intelikeysara if it is a propritary module then you'll have to rebuild it for the newer kernel00:09
saraive got homework to do00:10
sara.. on how to do the above mentioned00:10
intelikeysara otherwise you simply    sudo modprobe snd-<his/her_card_here>    and add the module name to /etc/modules00:11
oloughlin75hd-intel is supported by alsa 1.0.15 and 1.0.16... why doesnt ubuntu update to the latest version?00:11
intelikeythe above mentioned.  would be to recompile it the same way you did the first time.00:11
intelikeyoloughlin75 heh.  they can't keep up.  it's simple.   if you want to help.   see !support00:12
gundam_rx78nt1I'm baaaack!00:12
sarathank you00:12
biovoresara: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller  <-- if all else fails00:12
gundam_rx78nt1Ok, I will ask my question again...00:12
yerethnosrednaekim: well, the theme is not there, but I can select a bunch of stuff domino stuff00:13
gundam_rx78nt1My glx screen savers are doing split second stop motions like the system is under tremendous load... but it isn't.00:13
yerethnosrednaekim: domino style*00:13
gundam_rx78nt1what can I do to correct this?00:13
yerethtime for sleep00:14
yerethnn all00:14
intelikeyenable 3d acceleration00:14
gundam_rx78nt1My info: AMD64 3200 Nvidia 7600 w/512MB on the card and 1GB of system memory.00:14
intelikey!nv | gundam_rx78nt100:14
ubotugundam_rx78nt1: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto00:14
gundam_rx78nt1It wasn't doing this until I installed Gutsy.00:14
nosrednaekimyereth➜ ok...00:14
oloughlin75why is it taking so long to download eclipse...00:15
gundam_rx78nt1intelikey, I already have the restricted drivers installed.  Thanks for that portion.00:15
Xavier_Zgundam_rx78nt1: glxinfo | grep direct00:16
gundam_rx78nt1I wouldn't be here asking if I didn't try the forums first.00:16
intelikeyglxinfo | grep -i acc00:16
dsmith_nosrednaekim: ATI in the ACER 505000:16
gundam_rx78nt1Xavier, give me moment.00:16
nosrednaekimdsmith_➜ what?00:17
gundam_rx78nt1direct rendering: Yes00:17
dsmith_nosrednaekim: ATI in the ACER 5050??00:17
gundam_rx78nt1GL_SGIX_depth_texture, GL_SGIX_shadow, GL_SUN_slice_accum00:17
dsmith_I'll pass00:17
oloughlin75dsmith_: Get a dell if you want easy :)00:18
gundam_rx78nt1 visual  x  bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer  ms  cav00:18
oloughlin75Do they install crap on it like their windows pcs?00:18
dsmith_I/m trying not to go that route00:18
nosrednaekimdsmith_➜ yeah... it has an ATI, but its very well supported00:18
dsmith_nosrednaekim: ok00:18
denisbtw: what do you think about proprietary drivers?00:18
intelikeyhmmm and it's still choppy ?     sure the cpu is not loaded ?00:18
dsmith_oloughlin75: yea, they still install MS office and nortons00:19
gundam_rx78nt1yep. the cpu is currently at 10% load.00:19
oloughlin75oh god norton00:19
* coreymon77 has a macbook00:19
intelikeyglxgears   see where the cpu goes00:19
oloughlin75i dont get the point of buying osx :/ kde can look the same and is a bit more customizable00:20
gundam_rx78nt1approximately 2500 frames and the cpu is spiked.00:20
oloughlin75its not like windows that has programs that you may need to run00:20
nosrednaekimcoreymon77➜ wave that in our face will you <_<00:20
coreymon77nosrednaekim: i will00:21
gundam_rx78nt1392 fps.00:22
intelikeyi dont know unless something is bugging out in the screen saver itself00:22
gundam_rx78nt1It's happening with all the glx screen savers...00:22
gundam_rx78nt1I wonder if I should remove these drivers and install them manually?00:22
flipstarbtw what is 'knotify4' for ?00:22
intelikeydont see it hurting anything.00:23
oloughlin75gundam_rx78nt1: be carefull with the nvidia installer -- it can mess up the xorg.conf easily00:23
nosrednaekimflipstar➜ making annpoying popups slightly less annoying00:23
intelikeyand the newest patch at nvidia might help too     or not.00:23
gundam_rx78nt1oh, my other question was that I noticed a big update for kde was uploaded last night... has anybody have any problems after the install/update?00:24
gundam_rx78nt147 updated packages.00:25
Makuseruwhat is a "segmentation fault"?00:25
oloughlin75program error00:25
flipstardo i need that knotify4 ? if not how could i uninstall ? (its taking much memory, more than usual i think)00:25
NickPrestaMakuseru, your computer throwing up on the inside :)00:25
intelikeyl33t way to say it crashed Makuseru00:25
Liono in internet cafe  i was thinking of a system that auto logs internet usability time on server.  employee through the server may allow/disallow internet sharing for each pc. but the record/logs are auto written in the server and  no one could access or edite del those logs except me... possible ?00:26
gundam_rx78nt1isn't knotify4 what kubuntu uses to notify you of the updated available?00:26
Makuserui was trying to run a program from the terminal to see why it wouldnt open, but all it told me was "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"00:26
flipstargundam_rx78nt1: no thats adept_notify or similar00:26
Level15heym when I do aptitude search somepkg and i get something like "iB   pkgname  pkgdescriptio", what does that B mean?00:27
oloughlin75Makuseru: The program has a major problem :/00:27
gundam_rx78nt1mea culpa flipstar.00:27
Makuserustupid blender00:27
flipstarnp gundam_rx78nt100:27
intelikeyMakuseru you can strace <appname>   for more info.  but i don't promice that it will be human readable.00:27
Makuseruintelikey: ha, well im trying a reinstall right now, ill try that if this dosnt work00:28
oloughlin75wont that just give a ton of memory locations/00:28
gundam_rx78nt1now, is there anybody with experience messing with the sensors.conf file?00:28
NickPrestaMakuseru, I would join the Bender channel and ask them how you should proceed. Providing a trace (via strace as intelikey suggested) is probably a good start.00:28
gundam_rx78nt1I want to display my monitoring info on superkaramba monitors in degrees Fahrenheit.00:29
intelikeygundam_rx78nt1 not a karamba but http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d167773c200:30
oloughlin75gundam_rx78nt1: : /home/user/.kde/apps/superkaraba00:30
oloughlin75eclipse is STILL downloading libs.....00:31
gundam_rx78nt1I have the monitors in superkaramba but they display the temperature in degrees C.  I would like them in degrees F.00:31
oloughlin75gundam_rx78nt1: : /home/user/.kde/apps/superkaraba edit the weather one00:31
NickPrestagundam_rx78nt1, you can edit the Karamba theme.00:31
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BluesKajgundam_rx78nt1, just double the C temp subtract 10% and add 32 :)00:33
sparr_is there a way to not show hidden files in just one folder?  my home folder, specifically.  in konqueror.  or dolphin (ick)00:33
gundam_rx78nt1NickPresta and BluesKaj: where do I do that in this: http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=mc4f068500:34
NickPrestagundam_rx78nt1, http://netdragon.sourceforge.net/ssensors.html "Add the TEMPUNIT parameter to the KARAMBA line in your .theme file to specify the temperature unit. The default is Celsius. To specify Fahrenheit, use TEMPUNIT=F."00:37
flipstargundam_rx78nt1: seems like you dont have lm_sensors installed ..00:37
flipstarbtw version 3.0.1 is out00:37
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oloughlin75is there a default unclutter windows command?00:37
gundam_rx78nt1 Ok, let me try that.00:37
coreymon77oloughlin75: expose? ;)00:38
oloughlin75ya, is there a default keystroke for it/.00:38
coreymon77oloughlin75: you dont get it00:38
coreymon77oloughlin75: notice the ;)00:38
oloughlin75the same thing for linux00:39
oloughlin75i dont know what its called lol00:39
coreymon77oloughlin75: its not the same00:39
coreymon77oloughlin75: its called kompose and its not nearly as good00:39
NickPrestaThere is an Expose feature in Compiz(-Fusion) which works very well.00:39
coreymon77NickPresta: it cant be the same as the mac os one, thats the original00:40
oloughlin75im scared to try compiz again :(00:40
NickPrestacoreymon77, no of course it isn't the 'original'. However, this is a clone (pretty much) so it works just as well as Expose on the Mac00:40
coreymon77NickPresta: well of course it works just as well00:41
coreymon77i have to say though00:41
coreymon77i do miss virtual desktops on this thing00:41
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intelikeythere's no temp sensor on this box   so it can't get hot!00:43
flipstargreat idea00:43
gundam_rx78nt1NickPresta: it didn't work.  I placed the TEMPUNIT=F in different places in the file and still nothing.00:43
denis_I don't know if you consider it as a problem but does anobody know a program/plug-in for firefox to stream mms?00:44
Arwendenis_, mplayerplugin might work00:45
Arwenassuming you're talking about playback and not broadcast00:45
BluesKajdenis_, or vlc00:45
flipstargundam_rx78nt1: did you installed lm-sensors ?00:45
denis_ah cool, but I also need the program itself, right?00:46
gundam_rx78nt1I found the problem00:46
denis_not only the plug-in00:46
gundam_rx78nt1the problem is between the monitor and the chair.00:46
gundam_rx78nt1doesn't read well.00:46
Arwengundam_rx78nt1, a faulty keyboard?00:46
gundam_rx78nt1nope Arwen, but good guess.00:47
gundam_rx78nt1a little further back.00:47
Arwenan unstable desk? :-P00:47
gundam_rx78nt1yes, yes that's it. I can't read it well while it's shaking.00:48
gundam_rx78nt1I didn't place the TEMPUNIT=F in the karamba line.00:48
gundam_rx78nt1Now it's working.00:49
intelikeyoh.  i don't guess i can man bash if bash is not installed....   anyone remember the inputrc set string to turn that stupid "more like pager affect" off ?00:52
oloughlin75how do i make the clock 12 hours?00:52
intelikeyright click and configure it.00:52
coreymon77intelikey: and why exactly is bash not installed00:53
Lionocan i allow 4 apps to run, some file sharings , a shutdown button on destkopand NONE else on clients.. i mean none.... no right clicks no kmenu. .. nothing. possible?00:53
intelikeylanguages section oloughlin7500:53
intelikeycoreymon77 ummm cause i dont like bash ?     perl and python are not installed either00:53
denis_Arwen, Blueskaj seems like its working...00:54
flipstaruhm isnt bash the basic of *ubuntu ?00:54
biovoreintelikey using csh?00:54
Arwenflipstar, no, Linux is.00:54
Arwenyou can use whatever shell you want00:54
denis_nooo, its not00:54
biovorea shell is just a program that lunches other programs00:54
intelikeyshell is a command intrupretor00:55
denis_working, that s what I meant00:55
flipstarbash is very configureable..i really love my shell :P00:56
intelikeyyes bash is very bloated, i agree00:56
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de00:56
intelikeyactually i like bash alright.   i just don't have it installed here now.    i like dash better because it's light weight, posix compliant. fast.00:57
oloughlin75eclipse is only at 46% downloaded... its been like an hour, whys it taking so long?00:57
jhutchinsoloughlin75: Bandwidth bottleneck somewhere.01:00
Dr_willisintelikey,  admit it - you just like doing things the hard way01:00
* intelikey admits it01:00
jhutchinsintelikey: bash is all those things too.01:00
intelikeyjhutchins light weight ?    i don't think so.01:01
stevarinohey all again01:01
stevarinoi'm installing firmware for the broadcom 4300 network adaptor, its asking me for a firmware location and is providing me with http://xeve.de/down/wl_apsta.o - is this safe?01:01
Dr_willisegads it may use a whole.. what? 1 mb? 4 mb? :)01:02
intelikeywhen a simple shell eats 4m of ram,  that's not light.01:02
* Dr_willis goes back to his timex sinclare with its huge 4k ram expansion!01:02
Dr_willisand little calculator roll printer.01:02
jhutchinsintelikey: Depends what you compare it to I guess.01:03
BluesKajwhat's the best app for joining avi files together ?01:03
* Dr_willis wonders if you can cat avi files together.01:03
biovorenope you cant..01:04
NickPrestaDr_willis, you can actually. i was going to suggest it01:04
NickPrestaif they are the same format and such, you can, I believe01:04
biovoredepends on the player01:04
biovoreend up with 2 headers in a file01:04
biovoremplayer will play it :-P01:04
BluesKajI want to make them into one file , not just play them in sequence01:04
Dr_williscat would make them 1 file01:05
biovoreThere are some decent video editing software that work ok..01:05
BluesKajavidemux ?01:05
Dr_willisi rarely actually 'edit' video. I just tend to convert it01:05
NickPrestaHmm. Avidemux should have a "merge" option01:05
Dr_willisavidemux is more of a converter.. it proberly has some basic 3editing stuff01:06
biovoreyup.. thats what I am thinking..01:06
BluesKajI don't convert it anymore since most avi stuff is divx or xvid01:06
flipstaryes avidemux does it if the resolution is the same..01:06
biovorethere is also open movie editor01:06
biovoreI use mencoder to convert between formats01:06
denis_seems like neither mplayer nor vlc can play an mms01:06
NickPrestasame. ffmpeg, and mencoder are awesome01:06
claydohkdenlive openmovie editor, LiVES, kino for dv grabbing and editing01:06
biovoremms is weird protocol..01:06
BluesKajnot converting , just joining 2 files of the same extension (avi )01:07
oloughlin75shading is so convenient!01:07
biovoreavi is just a container for video/audo01:07
Dr_willistry cat all ready? ;) it may do it just fine01:07
denis_the mplayer plug-in loos good at the beginning01:07
flipstarBluesKaj: use avidemux01:07
denis_looks..., sorry01:07
NickPrestahmm. Using straight cat, it works but it doesn't show the video length past the "first" movie. It still plays fine though.01:08
intelikeycat blah.1 blah.2 > output01:08
denis_but when you press the play button it's loading and loading....01:08
BluesKajflipstar, any pointers , how to join 2 files ?01:09
flipstarjust open the first file then click append ..01:09
flipstarin menu01:09
flipstarbut they have to be similar ..01:09
sub[t]rnlBluesKaj➜ i use avimerge01:12
claydohBluesKaj: avimerge -o foo.avi -i foo1.avi foo2.avi01:12
claydohavimerge is part of transcode I think01:12
Arwen'mencoder -ovc copy -oac copy 1.avi 2.avi -o 3.avi' works too01:13
BluesKajflipstar, avidemux successfully merged the 2 avi files by appending and copying, then saving01:20
stevarinoshould i even consider using a 64 bit system if i  have less than 2 gigs of ram?01:20
Arwenintelikey, that's a, um, interesting script01:21
flipstarBluesKaj: great..there also other methods mentioned above01:21
intelikeyyes you should consider it.  then install the 32 bit.01:21
BluesKajstevarino, that's plenty ... I have 1 G Ram and ran 64 bit successfully01:21
intelikeyArwen just a shortening of the command line.01:21
BluesKajstevarino, but the 64 bit is clunky with ati graphics so be warned01:22
intelikeyhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d1c8e6dba <<< daz how i burn iso's to disk  but there are many other ways.01:24
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the_darkside_986does anyone know how to make the Home and Computer icons show up on the KDE desktop?01:30
dystopianraythe_darkside_986: cp /usr/share/apps/kdesktop/unused/* ~/Desktop/01:30
the_darkside_986ok cool i'll try that01:30
the_darkside_986yeah that seems to have worked. thanks01:31
Dr_willisthat seems a little... obscoure. :) heh heh01:32
Dr_willisthen again - i keep those icons in the panel.01:32
the_darkside_986i kept trying to make a sym link all day, as well as copy the icon from the taskbar. it never would show...01:32
dystopianraykubuntu doesn't install the .desktop files for Home or System by default, but they are still left in /usr/share/apps/kdesktop/unused/ luckily01:33
dystopianrayso it's easy to just copy them into your Desktop folder01:33
Dr_willisthere seems to be a trend in getting all these icons OFF the desktop. :)01:33
Dr_willisand these old-timer users keep putting them back.01:33
Dr_willisIve seen windows users with what must be 200 icons on their desktop befor01:33
the_darkside_986i try to put nothing but application and special folder links on my desktop01:34
dystopianrayhehe, 200 is ridiculous01:34
Dr_willisand they got them 'grouped' to one side or the other... heh01:34
the_darkside_986yeah and most of it is probably adware programs they picked up :P01:34
Dr_willisdo a rearange icon.. and they get mad.01:34
Dr_willis200 icons with 'shortcut to ...' makes them so MUCH more readable!01:35
dystopianrayit's also possible to make konqueror the default file manager rather than dolphin, if you hate dolphin01:35
anon32I hate both :-(01:36
intelikeytwo icons on desktop is rediculess to me.01:36
intelikeyactually > 0 is01:37
oloughlin75looks so empty though01:37
intelikeyput a picture on it01:37
oloughlin75i have a great picture01:37
oloughlin75still looks like its missing something01:37
intelikeywhat do you do    sit and stair at the blank desktop full of icons ?01:38
oloughlin75i dont have any icons on the desktop01:38
mefisto__do a screencap of the average windows desktop with 200 icons, and use that01:38
the_darkside_986i think an animated version of "Alien Night" on an icon-less desktop would be stunning01:38
sd32is it nessessary to run a software firewall as well as a hardware firewall?01:38
oloughlin75i wish i could set xaos as the background01:38
biovorenot really01:38
sd32ok,  thanks01:39
intelikeysd32 is it nessessary to have a firewall at all ?01:39
intelikeyif no ports are open... what's the point ?      just me i guess.01:39
the_darkside_986my router has a firewall, even though i kinda turned it off because it was causing connection problems. but i get attempted remote logins sometimes.01:39
sd32ihave a router   firewall for my windows machine01:39
oloughlin75does kubuntu come with a firewall?01:40
the_darkside_986one time while i was installing Sabayon, a dialog came up saying that someone was trying to connect to my PC :001:40
intelikeyoloughlin75 linux has firewall capabilities in the kernel   yes.01:40
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).01:40
sd32just wonder why they have firewall   in the repositorys if there  not needed01:40
the_darkside_986does anyone here use moblock in *buntu 7.10? i couldn't get it to stop messing up my http browsing to google and other places.01:41
mefisto__sd32: someone made them, someone wants them01:41
CharonP1hey guys01:41
intelikeysd32 "not needed" depends entirely on how you set up your system.     servers kinda need ways to block malicious sites and other unwanted traffic.01:42
sd32ohh ok01:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about av - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:43
ubotuA/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2101:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about moblock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:43
intelikeyi like that page             ^01:43
oloughlin75How linux doesnt have a virus problem ^_^01:43
sd32what about the kernel exploits?01:44
oloughlin75nobody actually exploits them01:44
anon32they fixed one today actually01:44
intelikeythere are a few.  they get patched pretty quickly.01:44
the_darkside_986yeah i fixed my Ubuntu exploit problem with the novmsplice module01:44
anon32oloughlin75, "nobody"?01:44
oloughlin75the vast majority dont01:44
the_darkside_986scary but luckily i don't have a system that is begging to execute every little thing it sees on the internet. :D01:45
intelikeythe_darkside_986 maybe we can write you a script to change that       lol01:46
intelikeyit'll have to be in perl tho   >:]01:47
Rukushi i recently uninstalled xserver-xgl , installed a new ATI graphics driver,, newest from ATI site, and now when i try ctrl alt backspace, my system doesnt hang, it just blanks the screen and stops there. ctrl alt del restarts the machine01:47
Rukusi also have compiz running01:48
the_darkside_986why must you use Ctrl+Alt+Backspace? is the X server not working properly anymore? if you need to kill a nasty x process you should probably go to another tty via Ctrl+Alt+Fn01:49
Rukusokay, maybe its not a big deal all in all, just like when things work01:51
denis_for any who are interested: wm streaming is working with win32 codecs, mplayer and konqueror01:51
Rukusthanks for the alternative!01:51
intelikeythe_darkside_986 here's that script for you... http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d4542413e01:51
sd32ip tables allows all traffic by default..lol01:51
mefisto__Rukus: did any unusual options get added to xorg.conf?01:51
Rukusi am not sure, i had to run dpkg-server etc... whatever the command is.. to revert to xorg driver, after i uninstalled the fglrx driver that came with ubuntu, to install the driver from ATI's website, so i basically let it redo my xorg.conf for me01:53
nosrednaekimRukus➜ you don't need to use xgl with the newest ati drivers01:53
Rukusi dont use xgl01:53
the_darkside_986@intelikey lol thanks. i've never seen a lot of perl, but all i can say is, it rivals brainf*ck in terms of unreadability.01:53
Rukusi uninstalled it01:53
nosrednaekimthe_darkside_986➜ that, sir, is the quote of the day01:54
the_darkside_986hmm i wonder what would happen if i ran the old fork bomb on the school's linux server. i guess i should keep wondering and NOT try it during the next Unix class meeting :P01:55
unix_lappycan anyone recommend a cross platform calendaring app?01:56
unix_lappy(not thunderbird / sunbird)01:57
Rukusalso i do have two xorg processes running01:57
Rukushow do i fix that01:57
mefisto__unix_lappy: google calendar?01:58
nosrednaekimunix_lappy➜ how about google cal?01:58
unix_lappymefisto__: i would consider google cal a web service.01:58
unix_lappynot an application.01:58
mefisto__unix_lappy: maybe you could try considering it an application? :)01:59
denis_anybody there with Intel HD audio?01:59
unix_lappymefisto__: i don't always have internet.01:59
unix_lappyand i'm not always on linux.01:59
unix_lappyso i'd like to have something for both.01:59
oloughlin75denis_: I do01:59
nosrednaekimunix_lappy➜ well, getting rid of sunbird kinda limits you then01:59
denis_mine is recognized but doesn't work01:59
ubotuFor fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto02:00
unix_lappyeven though if google provided an ad-based local application i would use it.02:00
denis_ah ok, thanks nosrednaekim02:00
oloughlin75denis_: Get the 1.0.16, it is the latest and works well02:01
mefisto__unix_lappy: I use korganizer on linux and sunbird on windows, using the same calendar file. It works OK02:01
unix_lappymefisto__: right, but i barely find sunbird functional enough.02:01
denis_oloughlin75 the intel driver you mean?02:02
denis_or alsa?02:02
PengIs the Kubuntu installer able to install on a hard drive that's already partitioned and filesystemed and even has some data on it, without screwing things up?02:02
unix_lappyintelikey: har har.02:02
denis_aah, ok, I thought its installed by default02:02
oloughlin75when you click on on the alsa-driver itll take you to a list -- 1.0.16 is the latest02:02
* unix_lappy sorely wishes ical was on linux and windows.02:02
Xavier_ZPeng: generally yes02:02
denis_ok, I will have a look at it02:03
PengXavier_Z: Very reassuring.02:03
oloughlin75denis_: are you following the instructions?02:03
denis_is there no driver by intel?02:03
PengXavier_Z: What's not "general"?02:03
intelikeypeng ubiquity will want to format /   if you know enough about linux you can force just about any installer to work tho02:03
denis_by the way, I am wrong, it's not an intel chip but a Realtek02:03
Xavier_Zdenis: Realtek cards are simply horrible to use on Linux02:04
intelikeyPeng what fs are you planning to install on ?02:04
Xavier_Zdenis_: i've tried to get sound for about a week and failed...02:04
oloughlin75denis_: Follow the instructions on the list- they work02:04
Pengintelikey: RAID 1ed ReiserFS.02:04
denis_ok, I will do so02:04
PengI'd like to switch to ext3 too, but maybe I'll do that another time.02:04
intelikeyk that should work  just watch closely all options before clicking ok on any portion of the installer02:05
Pengintelikey: Gentoo's old "installer" (aka boot to command line live CD, "fdisk" and everything yourself) was kind of nice here. I'd have to go to effort *to* break things.02:05
Pengintelikey: Yeah.02:05
intelikeylots easier to break things with ubuntu02:06
PengI even finally got a new mouse for this purpose, because my old one likes double-clicking when I single-click.02:06
unix_lappycoreymon77: i recently just found an application called monocalendar.02:06
Pengintelikey: I wish I knew how to break its management of resolv.conf..02:06
unix_lappythey're porting it to linux via mono as well...i'm going to test it out :-)02:06
PengBTW, say I "apt-get install"ed a few things on the live DVD. Would they come across to the disk install?02:07
denis_1.0.16 is the latest :-)02:07
Xavier_ZPeng: no02:07
intelikeyseveral ways.   look in /etc/defaults  for the answer.   or just make /etc/resolv.conf immutable  and watch the offending app complain about it    heh02:07
PengXavier_Z: Ok.02:07
oloughlin75denis_: thats what i meant02:07
nosrednaekimintelikey➜ I think you have a devicive side.... liking to watch apps complain....02:08
intelikeyPeng no.   but you can install them there before rebooting if you need to.02:08
PengNo, I don't want to use the U.S. Russian phonetic keyboard layout..02:08
intelikeynosrednaekim :)02:08
PengIf I suddenly ping out, apparently that accidental double-click was a really bad idea.02:09
denis_damn, my vendor is not supported02:09
intelikeynosrednaekim if you want to know what keeps overwritting your resolc.conf file, that's one way to find it.02:09
nosrednaekimintelikey➜ ^_^02:09
sub[t]rnlhow d02:09
denis_how do I know which spoundchip I have?02:09
sub[t]rnlsounds like i'm missing some good "chattr"02:09
* sub[t]rnl chuckles02:10
coreymon77sub[t]rnl: lspci probably02:10
oloughlin75denis_: you dont need to know to install alsa02:10
oloughlin75denis_: it should work after the install so you wont need to do those steps02:10
oloughlin75denis_: on the tutorial02:10
BluesKajdenis_, lspci  | grep audio02:10
sub[t]rnlgrep -i audio02:11
PengUh-oh, now I can't run the installer.02:11
PengI freaked out and killed it.02:11
denis_denis@Laptop:~$ lspci | grep audio02:11
PengAnd now it doesn't start. :)02:11
nosrednaekimdenis_➜ grep for sound02:11
rancedoes anybody have a tutorial that will allow an existing KDE session on kubuntu to be available via vnc login (yes Im going to be doing it via an ssh tunnel, but thats beside the point)02:12
sub[t]rnldenis_➜ lspci |grep -i audio02:12
sub[t]rnlor sound :>02:12
ubotuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX02:12
oloughlin75nosrednaekim: how do you make the arrow?02:12
nosrednaekimoloughlin75➜ its an option in konversation02:13
denis_ok, it says:02:14
denis_denis@Laptop:~$ lspci |grep -i audio02:14
denis_00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller02:14
oloughlin75whats the suffix for it?02:14
nosrednaekimoloughlin75➜ what?02:14
denis_really strange, I use a realtek driver under windows02:14
nosrednaekimjust copy my arrow and paste it as the suffic02:14
denis_ok, I downloaded Alsa02:15
oloughlin75nosrednaekim: for the little arrow, what is the suffix to get the arrow instead of the colon?02:15
* Peng seems to have broken ubiquity's mind.02:15
nosrednaekimoloughlin75➜ copy the arrow from here and paste it as the suffic02:15
oloughlin75lol thanks nosrednaekim02:15
CharonP1hey guys02:15
PengOk, killed the last process and now it's ok..02:15
nosrednaekimhey CharonP102:15
CharonP1I'm trying to install kubuntu in a vmdk but the installer keeps detecting it as a scsi disk instead of a ide02:16
CharonP1gparted detects it as an ide02:16
stratman4300whats the current best method for increasing the size of a swap partition??02:16
CharonP1gparted denotes it as hda but kubuntu installer denotes it as sda02:16
Dr_williside disks are shown as scsi devices in some cases.02:16
* Peng crosses his fingers.02:16
PengSomeone hug me.02:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hug - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:17
Dr_willisfrom what i gather with vmware its best to make the virtual disks be seen as scsi devices anyway.02:17
* unix_infidel wonders what calendaring app the Dr_willis evil monkey uses.02:17
Dr_willisunix_infidel,  None at all.02:17
unix_infidelmust be old and semi-retired :-P02:17
Dr_willisJust old.02:17
Dr_willisi rarely even use email.02:17
sub[t]rnlstratman4300➜ best method would be using qtparted from a live cd and shrinking a partition to increase the swap02:18
CharonP1ok, but i even have it as an ide in the vmx.  scsi disks are set to not present02:18
PengHey, what? I have an ext3 partition and 30 gigs of unpartitioned space? I didn't know that.02:18
Dr_willisan IDE drive - is oftebn seen/shown as a 'sd'  scussi type device due to the libata changes.02:19
sub[t]rnlstratman4300➜ another method would be using loswap, mkswap, and swapon, but thats a bit more involved02:19
intelikeyorigen of .sh   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d1e4da1e202:20
CharonP1alright, i guess I'll just go with it the way it is02:20
stratman4300sub[t]rnl: i guess my question would be if i just resize it, would i have to recreate the swap file system on it???  or can i just resize it and be good to go???02:21
intelikeyactually shouldn't say "or dir"   but the rest i'll live with.02:21
sub[t]rnlstratman4300➜ most likely just re-size and be good to go02:21
stratman4300cool thanks for the info!! :)02:22
CharonP1if I set a separate part for /home, do I need to make that bootable, or just /02:23
nosrednaekimCharonP1➜ just /02:23
nosrednaekimI don't think / even has to be bootable.02:23
nosrednaekimbut I may be wrong there.02:23
intelikeyhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d60e628f9 better.02:24
CharonP1I read something that the boot loaders ignore it or something, idk02:24
intelikeyno / doesn't need to be bootable02:24
mefisto__so we should call it "bootable" since it doesn't affect bootable-ness02:25
fortothe latestet kernel upgrades have broken my system ... firefox/konqueor/opera stopped working, aptitude crashes or tells me "Not enough resources to create thread"....02:25
fortoanything to fix this?02:25
intelikeyforto boot the older version kernel until they fix the bug ?02:26
morticiforto boot the previous kernel02:26
oloughlin75How can I have access denied for empying the trash?02:26
intelikeyalthough that's not always an option.02:26
morticiput something there with not your permissions02:26
morticiie. root02:26
fortothe old kernel should still be installed?02:26
morticiforto the image yes02:27
forto(like pressing ESC on boot?)02:27
intelikeyoloughlin75 aren't you the fellow that uses sudo for graphicla apps ?02:27
fortook i'll try it.. thanks.. brb02:27
intelikeyoloughlin75 well that would be one way.02:27
yasahiroi have a question for you all.. on my kubuntu computer, songs sound so nice, but on my mp3 player, the same song is bad.. is there a program to process songs, like add a bass boost, or other effects, to a song?02:28
oloughlin75is there a way to empty the trash as sudo?02:29
BluesKajyasahiro, describe "bad"02:29
nosrednaekimyasahiro➜ thats probably your mp3 player.02:30
sub[t]rnloloughlin75➜ why do you want to do it with sudo?02:30
denis_thanks for your help guys02:30
the_darkside_986GNU Sound is in the repositories but i'm not exactly sure it can do _that_. yeah if the audio decoder software in the mp3 player sucks, there isn't much hope :(02:30
denis_good night02:30
oloughlin75so i can delete the files that i do not have permision to do02:30
sub[t]rnloloughlin75➜ you trash is located in ~/.local/share/Trash02:31
intelikeyoloughlin75 sure   the rm command will delete the junk.    sudo rm -r ~/.Trash       or where ever.02:31
arcticpenguin380does the mutiverse repo violate patents?02:31
mefisto__yasahiro: audacity can process audio quite easily if that's what you want to do02:31
intelikeyoloughlin75 always be careful with sudo and rm togather   and note that -r is recursive.02:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mutiverse - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:32
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:32
intelikeyoloughlin75 if at any time unsure. use -i  for interactive mode02:33
coreymon77arcticpenguin380: its multiverse not mutiverse02:33
nosrednaekimarcticpenguin380➜ no, thats only restricted02:33
oloughlin75does that do step bystep yes or no?02:33
intelikeysudo rm -ir ~/.Trash    <<<< like that02:33
oloughlin75interactive nd recursive?02:34
intelikeyoloughlin75 you do know about the "man" command ?02:36
intelikeyoloughlin75    man man02:37
Dr_willisman man02:37
sd32so i guess you do need a firewall  if ip tables allow all traffic by default02:37
Dr_willisGotta love that.02:37
nosrednaekimman woman02:37
oloughlin75this is my 3rd day on linux lol02:37
nosrednaekimmeh <_<02:37
nosrednaekimoloughlin75➜ you're doing good :)02:38
oloughlin75lots to learn02:38
nosrednaekimoh yes...02:38
nosrednaekimas long as you WANT to learn, you'll do fine02:39
mefisto__quite learnable though. and there's no rush02:39
oloughlin75do a lot of colleges require at least some programming for unix for CS?02:40
Dr_willisIf you want to be  CS major   - I imagine you will want to learn Unix :)02:40
sub[t]rnlsd32➜ are you running a lot of services that are listening to the outside for tcp connections or something?  by default iptables allows traffic, but also by default ubuntu doesn't enable unnecessary services02:40
intelikeyoloughlin75 that's why i pointed you at the man command.   anytime someone gives you a command to execute and you aren't familear with that command.    man command_name     to see what they are asking you to do   and what any --switches might be for.02:40
Dr_williscommand --help or command -help    is handy also. :)02:41
oloughlin75oo, usually just do --help :)02:41
* intelikey is a firm believer that ever linux installer should dumb the user in the "man man" befor allowing to install.02:41
sub[t]rnlsd32➜ or do you have a multiuser system that your wanting to restrict outgoing packets?02:41
intelikeyDr_willis yes most of the time it is.    and there are things that don't provide a man page too.02:41
intelikeyi don't however like   info info    at all.02:42
Dr_willisinfo pages - are just sort of a better idea.. that never took off. :(02:43
sd32sub[t]rnl: no i was asking if you need a software firewall as well as a hardware firewall and sombody mentioned ip tables and was suprised to learn that ip tables allows all traffic by default02:43
fortoso i booted the last kernel available in grub and /boot.. 2.6.20-16-generic.. now the nvidia kernel module does not load anymore and X is gone...02:43
Dr_willismost the info pages i see are just the man pages. :(02:43
intelikeyDr_willis yeah with a worse interface.02:43
Dr_willisinfo2html :)02:44
intelikeyonly slightly better02:44
fortothis is really nuts :(02:44
Dr_willisinfo2text | festival02:44
nosrednaekimforto➜ did you just update the kernel? and how did you install the nvidia driver?02:44
intelikeythat would wotk02:44
sub[t]rnlsd32➜ don't let it worry you.  If you start running a variety of services that open ports and listen for traffic, then its a good time to consider crafting your iptables.02:44
Dr_willisinfo  command | cowsay02:44
fortoi just update to a broken kernel, yes02:44
Dr_willis Hehheh.02:45
nosrednaekimforto➜ you can use the previous one.02:45
nosrednaekimDr_willis➜ cowsay..lol02:45
arcticpenguin380will running low on filesystem space slow down read operations?02:45
sd32sub[t]rnl: no i just heard of the recient kernel exploit and got nervous02:45
Dr_willisfortune | figlet | cowsay02:45
fortonosrednaekim: i just booted the previous one.. now nvidia does not work anymore ..02:45
Dr_willisis fun.02:45
sub[t]rnlsd32➜ allowing all traffic is common, rather than denying everything and making the normal user specify port, udp/tcp, destination allowables.02:45
nosrednaekimforto➜ doesn't work in any kernel?02:46
* intelikey never cared for fortune, 02:46
fortoactually, this did not even help fix it :(02:46
fortonosrednaekim: well nvidia is not the actual problem..02:46
nosrednaekimyeah fortune is dumb.... now if they had one with bushisms....lol02:46
sd32sub[t]rnl: like windows..shame shame02:46
fortomore, since i rebooted after the kernel upgrade, nothing works anymore02:46
fortoeven if i boot the older kernel..02:46
fortomaybe it was not even the kernel.. grm02:47
sub[t]rnlsd32➜ hehe, whats like windows?02:47
sd32sub[t]rnl: allowing all traffic :-)02:47
intelikeysub[t]rnl your comment about allowing all traffic02:48
intelikeyoh sorry. i'm slow02:48
fortowhat can cause this severe damage?! gnaaa02:48
nosrednaekimforto➜ how did you install the nvidia?02:48
intelikeyWARNING slow intelikey at play.02:48
fortoit's from the repositories..02:48
fortobut nvidia is not my problem.. i02:49
nosrednaekimforto➜ ah,  well in the xorg.conf, switch the driver back to "nv"02:49
fortothe problem is, that aptitude stopped working, a..02:49
nosrednaekimoh... what is?02:49
fortoand that all applications stopped working02:49
forto(besides some textmode apps i'm using now)02:49
intelikeyforto sudo dpkg --configure -a ; sudo apt-get install -f02:49
sub[t]rnlsd32➜ you realize its easy to change if you want right?02:49
fortodpkg/apt is fine :/02:50
fortohas the new kernel update added something to sysctl?02:50
sd32sub[t]rnl: you kidding, i read the ip tables page02:50
sub[t]rnlsd32➜ yeah, easy02:51
sub[t]rnlsd32➜ use a gui front end02:51
sub[t]rnlfirestarter, guarddog02:51
sub[t]rnlone click and your iptables will change from accept to deny02:51
sd32ohh, that was what i was thinking02:52
intelikeyeverything i wanted to do with "firestarter, guarddog"  they were not designed to do... and provided no functionality for it.02:52
CharonP1ok, i think i see. I need only to set a partition boot-able that I may need to mount independently, correct?02:52
intelikeyCharonP1 grub cares not if a partition is set bootable.02:52
CharonP1like if I wanted to mount the vmdk part. 3 in another os02:52
sub[t]rnlintelikey➜ hahah why on earth use a gui front end to iptables if your looking for functionality02:53
sub[t]rnlintelikey➜ just use iptables02:53
intelikeysub[t]rnl cause iptables is too Kreptic for me ?02:53
sub[t]rnlpsh, lies02:53
CharonP1<intelikey> yeah, so the bootable flag is just for mounting the partition, not for booting the system then02:53
intelikeyCharonP1 no.02:54
intelikeyCharonP1 the bootable flag is only for other bootloaders02:54
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nosrednaekimintelikey➜ ah, nice 2 know02:54
intelikeynamely M$ type boot loaders02:55
CharonP1<intelikey> ok, because i noticed that a flash drive or a usb hdd won't mount unless it's flagged boot-able02:55
intelikeyCharonP1 ???    in linux ?02:55
forto_hmmm so this is what aptitude gives me: http://pastebin.ca/90203902:55
CharonP1i don't know about ubuntu but in opensuse02:55
* intelikey grumbles i don't know what he's trying to mount it with....02:56
forto_this "Cannot allocate memory" looks suspicious02:56
forto_but what could cause this?!02:56
intelikey[sudo] mount /dev/<device_node> /<mountpoint>     and that's linux generic02:56
forto_everything worked just fine before i upgraded the kernel and did not reboot02:57
nosrednaekimforto_➜ doesn't apt-get work?02:57
yasahirowow... thanks for answering my questions02:58
forto_konqueror, firefox, opera, konversation, ...etc all stopped working02:58
yasahiroit was so long ago too, sorry..02:58
forto_(konqueror starts but can't connect to the net)02:58
nosrednaekimyasahiro➜ you are welcome :)02:58
forto_firefox does not even start02:58
forto_aptitude is a console app that stopped working02:58
yasahiroumm.. .as for describe "bad"... umm... it sounds all muddy... no real bass to it, kinda like imitation bass or something..02:59
forto_and the strace output is readable02:59
willluongoHello, I have looked online, but I haven't found anything. Does anyone know of a way to get my 8500GT working? On the live cd and after an install it does the same thing: boots up until X server starts, and then the monitor shuts off, and the computer stops responding.02:59
CharonP1<intelikey> maybe just automount, havn't tried manually mounting02:59
nosrednaekimyasahiro➜ and yes, there is a way to rip with a bass boost02:59
nosrednaekimwillluongo➜ gutsy?02:59
yasahirowell thats good, i have all the original cd's ^^02:59
willluongoso yes, I believe03:00
nosrednaekimwillluongo➜ did you try safe graphics mode?03:00
intelikeyforto# sudo dpkg --configure -a ; sudo apt-get install -f03:00
* forto_ cries03:00
nosrednaekimwillluongo➜ does your video card have two outputs?03:00
forto_intelikey: this does not help03:00
intelikeydid you try it ?03:00
yasahirohow do you rip with a bass boost then? my headphones handle true bass really nicely...03:00
willluongoNothing comes out of either of them, though03:00
forto_intelikey: sure03:00
intelikeydid it give any error messages ??03:00
nosrednaekimwillluongo➜ its probably......oh.03:01
cicero_123rehello room03:01
forto_i suppose it's not the apt/dpkg db that is broken03:01
willluongoIt works fine in windoze! :(03:01
intelikeylsb_release -a03:01
forto_but something very very strange03:01
forto_like, it can't create enough threads03:01
nosrednaekimwillluongo➜ yeah.... did you try installing witht he alternate installer?03:01
forto_look at the pastebin..03:02
cicero_123it looks like i fouled the root up pretty bad for multimedia and playing cds and dvds so i am going to reinstall kubuntu. is there any recommendations before i do?03:02
forto_it says "not enough memory" "ThreadCreateException"03:02
intelikeyyes i looked03:02
willluongoI don't think so03:02
oloughlin75is there a way to check the CPU temp?03:02
forto_though i have enough free (according to "free")03:02
intelikeylsb_release -a03:02
nosrednaekimcicero_123➜ yeah, make a separate home DIR, and don't mess areound with root03:02
cicero_123:D will do03:02
nosrednaekimcicero_123➜ erm...home partition03:02
forto_i don't get why this happened ...03:03
cicero_123nosrednaekim: um... how do i do that?03:03
intelikeylsb[tabkey] -a03:03
npurcifulIntegrated ATA100 and Serial ATA Controller03:03
npurciful144,000,000GB [by 48 bits LBA Spec.]03:03
nosrednaekimcicero_123➜ in the installer, under manual partitioning, that way, you can install as many times as you want,and all your info is safe03:03
cicero_123during the install process go into manual partition, and install kubuntu twice?03:04
forto_i'm running 7.10/gutsy...03:04
intelikeyis that what lsb-release says ?03:04
sd32what kernel we on now?03:05
forto_well actually the first line is "No LSB modules are available"03:05
forto_but yes, the other output clearly states 7.10/gutsy03:05
toothpick_How do I enable /dev/kqemu ?03:06
intelikeyulimit -a   >>> pastebin that.03:06
forto_hehe fun to pastebin without gpm and elinks only :p just a moment03:06
cicero_123i will figure it out.  bbl. it takes about 45 minutes to install and update.03:07
toothpick_How do I enambe kqemu?03:07
sd32which kernel version are we up to?03:07
intelikeyforto_ gpm not working ?     have curl installed ?  i can send you a script03:08
forto_intelikey: http://pastebin.ca/90205403:08
forto_intelikey: yeah i can manage it... :)03:08
forto_just takes a bit more time ;)03:08
forto_this ulimit seems low03:10
intelikeyi consider ""14. max user processes              (-u) 6143"" to be too high and dangerous   but it won't cause your issue.03:10
forto_as you say03:10
forto_thanks i think i'm on the right trace ;)03:10
intelikeyforto_ pam_tally --user $USER03:12
intelikeyand check dmesg for anomilies too03:12
forto_yeah, already looked at dmesg .. it did not tell anything unusual03:13
forto_hmm what should pam_tally say?03:13
forto_so my user has "0" and root has "3"03:14
forto_thanks for the help so far btw ;)03:15
intelikeyi'm still concerned about that ld.so message     sudo ldconfig -v | less      and scan for oddities03:16
intelikeymain test on pam was that it is tracking.   i wasn't really looking for a specific there, just that pam is not the problem.03:16
mefisto__what was the ld.so message? I had that yesterday, after reboot all was ok03:17
intelikeyit's in the pastebin several times   missing file.03:17
intelikeymakes me think that a lib may be hosed.03:18
intelikey"/etc/ld.so.preload" again no file.03:19
Old-Athurhi all!03:20
nosrednaekimhey Old-Athur03:20
forto_intelikey: could you compare a plain "strace aptitude" (as i did) to my pastebin please?03:20
intelikeyapatude not installed here.  minimal system.03:20
intelikeybash not even installed03:20
Old-AthurWhich is the difference betwen the installation of a Kubuntu Cd and a Kubuntu DVD?03:20
Old-Athur**between, sorry03:21
intelikeyOld-Athur more packages avalable on the disk and alternate installation methoods aval03:21
forto_well feels kind of minimal too, chatting with 80x25 and only having elinks :)03:21
intelikeywelcome to my world03:22
mefisto__intelikey: so there is no alternate install DVD? both methods are on the one disk?03:22
intelikeydid the ldconfig say anything interesting ?03:22
intelikeymefisto__ that's how i understand it.03:22
Old-AthurI want a distro for a WorkStation, but the commond kubuntu cd does not have the drivers for the Wifi connection... I imagine that the DVD version should have more drivers...03:22
NickPrestamefisto__, there is a low spec. alternate installation CD. There is the regular desktop CD and then the desktop DVD.03:22
forto_not really, only suspicious is a missing libfakeroot03:22
intelikeymefisto__ someone can correct me if i'm wrong.03:22
Old-AthurIs it right?03:23
forto_but that would lead to obvious errors..03:23
Old-Athurintelikey, is that correct?03:23
intelikeyOld-Athur that i can't answer.   maybe someone else can.03:23
forto_ok i'm trying some limit settings..03:23
forto_brb reboot03:23
Old-AthurOk :)03:24
intelikeyrebooting to change a ulimit ???03:24
intelikeyforto is the same kind of expert i am.03:24
intelikeyexpert=depressureized drip03:25
nosrednaekimOld-Athur➜ the dvd does not have more drivers03:25
Old-AthurOk, thanks03:26
intelikeynosrednaekim stands to reason.  but i could not confirm that.03:26
nosrednaekimOld-Athur➜ what wifi chip does it have?03:27
Old-AthurCould somebody recommend me a distro with more drivers (maybe one with a DVD install disk), I've tried with Ubuntu and Kubuntu for my WorkStation, but it cannot help me very much :(03:27
Old-AthurSorry if the question is not the best for this channel :S03:27
nosrednaekimOld-Athur➜ all you need is ndiswrapper (which is on the CD) and the windows driver03:27
intelikeyOld-Athur possably mandriva or suse   idk.03:28
oloughlin75Old-Athur➜PCLinuxOS has a little better out of the box support, but most will require at least some work03:28
Old-AthurThanks :)03:28
mike18anyone familiar with getting ati video card to detect an hdtv in kubuntu?03:29
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:29
mike18i installed the ati drivers using Envy and the ATI Catalyst control center is now available, but it doesn't detect my hdtv03:29
nosrednaekimoloughlin75➜ ha... switched to sub[t]rnl and my arrow, eh?03:29
oloughlin75nosrednaekim➜did it when i aske dyou how :)03:30
nosrednaekimlater guys... getting late03:30
sub[t]rnllates nosrednaekim03:30
SpamInaCanhow do i get the latest firerfox beta 3 deb?03:30
intelikeyoh is that â supposed to be an arrow ?03:30
mefisto__SpamInaCan: it should be in repos03:31
oloughlin75intelikey➜yeah, is it not?03:31
sub[t]rnlintelikey➜ whats it look like on your client?03:31
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SpamInaCanmefisto__, can i have it with my current firefox?, like firefox-beta?03:31
intelikeyoloughlin75 not here.  non-utf8 console here03:31
intelikeylooks like rafter A plus two squars03:32
matt__help!!!! I aciddently uninstalled "everything" for kde. I was trying the new kde4, and then after i tried it, uninstalled it, but accidently uninstalled kde3.5 as well. Right now it is working, but I'm afraid that rebooting will cause problems. I also can't run konsole, etc. If i can just get apt-gett working, i can install kubuntu-desktop. but the problem is...i believe apt-get uninstalled...03:32
mefisto__yes, it's firefox-3.0, and it will make a copy of any existing firefox profiles, so all your extensions and settings will be there (but many will not be compatible)03:32
matt__...itself. is there anything i could do, or is reinstalling the best answer?03:32
oloughlin75intelikey➜ like -> ä??03:32
SpamInaCanmefisto__, how do i install it?03:32
mefisto__SpamInaCan: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.003:33
SpamInaCanE: Couldn't find package firefox-3.003:33
mefisto__SpamInaCan: you might need to adjust your sources though03:33
intelikeymatt__  ctrl+alt+f1   for a console    run sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop     alt+f7 back to the gui03:33
SpamInaCanyeah... what source do i need (i am on 7.04)03:34
sub[t]rnlmatt__➜ take a look at /var/log/dpkg.log if you want to know exactly what was uninstalled.03:34
intelikeyoloughlin75 close   the squar is right.   :)03:34
matt__intelikey: i thought of trying that...but will it work, because i don't think apt-get is on here...but i'll give it a try.03:34
SpamInaCani cant use 7.10 my laptop hates it..., sound and a few other things are messed up and no one cares to help me fix it.....03:34
NickPrestamatt__, reinstall kubuntu-desktop (sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop). If that doesn't install everything back, look in /var/log/apt/term.log (kdesu kate /var/log/apt/term.log) and see what was uninstalled and reinstall it manually.03:34
matt__sub[t]rnl: pretty much everthing...for some reason.03:34
NickPrestaand I'm late on the answer again :)03:34
intelikeymatt__ if apt is not there.  you removed way too much.03:34
mefisto__SpamInaCan: it's in universe but that's in gutsy, not sure about feisty03:35
NickPrestaSpamInaCan, if you explain your problems in detail, proving exact information about your system and the problems you're having, people can help you.03:35
sub[t]rnlintelikey➜ http://subtrnl.homelinux.com/getip03:35
intelikeyand i might add had to enter "Yes, do as i say!"  to get it to remove....03:35
SpamInaCani have all the repos enabled in 7.04....03:35
sub[t]rnlintelikey➜ comments welcome03:36
sub[t]rnlk, bbias, cig03:36
Old-Athursorry nosrednaekim, I did not see your question about the chip... Anyhow, I don't know :S03:36
matt__to everyone that just told me to install kubuntu-desktop, or take a look in a var folder, it won't work, ok? i can't run dolphin, i can't run a konsole, i can't run apt-get. i can't do that stuff....03:36
intelikeymefisto__ what package is SpamInaCan looking for ?03:36
SpamInaCanintelikey, firefox 303:37
NickPrestaSpamInaCan, Package firefox-3.0 does not exist in feisty03:37
intelikey!find firefox fiesty03:37
SpamInaCani wish 7.10 wouldn't give me so many problems03:37
matt__i hit ctrl alt f1 all the way back to whatever the gui is, and none of those worked but the gui. if i reboot, i don't think anything will load.03:37
ubotuFound: firefox-themes-ubuntu, mozilla-firefox-locale-af, mozilla-firefox-locale-ar, mozilla-firefox-locale-be, mozilla-firefox-locale-bg-bg (and 71 others)03:37
intelikeylist too long to check that way.03:37
intelikey!find firefox3 fiesty03:37
matt__if i hit alt+f2, i can't run konsole or yakuake or anthing i could use.03:37
ubotuPackage/file firefox3 does not exist in gutsy03:38
SpamInaCan!find firefox-3.003:38
ubotuFound: firefox-3.0, firefox-3.0-dev, firefox-3.0-dom-inspector, firefox-3.0-gnome-support, firefox-3.0-venkman03:38
asdsadasdmatt__: you don't get a terminal if you hit ctrl-alt-f1?03:38
matt__all i'm wondering is if there is a possible place i could download apt-get, through firefox, and place in somewhere03:38
intelikeymatt__ unable to access the console ?03:38
matt__asdsadasd: no, just a completely black screen, trust me, i've used that all the time03:38
matt__intelikey: yes, yes, and yes03:38
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james296can someone help me out with getting the audio from the radio stations on Amarok to play instead of giving a demux error thing?03:39
intelikeymatt__ thing is,  if apt is not installed    how would you install it ?03:39
sd32adept shows firefox 303:39
intelikeylike duh!03:39
frank32matt__: I think a reinstall is pretty much your only option03:40
SpamInaCanis there a guide on how to compile firefox for idiots?03:40
Old-AthurMaybe it's not a problem related to the driver,,,, intelikey the wifi works well in the WK (workstation) if I use windows, but when I try with ubuntu I does not detect the connections... In a HP laptop it works well with ubuntu...03:40
intelikeymatt__ i'm satisfied that apt is still there.    i'd sujest reboot and root with   nosplash vga=normal03:40
matt__intelikey: exactly...however i was considering this: if it is possible, and it doesn't need 4325145145 dependencies, i'm going to download the apt-get binary, place it to desktop, and run something using f2, like /home/matt/Desktop/apt-get install apt-get, if that makes sense03:40
frank32matt__: which package did you remove that pulled everything else?03:40
matt__frank kde4* amarok4*03:40
intelikeymatt__ that should make the console avalable   and you should be able to install kubuntu-desktop via apt there.03:41
matt__frank32: it pulled kubuntu-desktop for some reason03:41
frank32matt__: oh... apt should still be there03:41
matt__frank32: how do i get it then?03:41
intelikeymatt__ i'm satisfied that apt is still there.    i'd sujest reboot and root with   nosplash vga=normal03:41
intelikeymatt__ that should make the console avalable   and you should be able to install kubuntu-desktop via apt there.03:41
deuryteWHOEVER IT WAS THAT HELPED ME THE OTHER DAY, BY SHOWING ME "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"  IT WORKED AND I DO THANK YOU.......03:41
matt__intelikey: k03:41
Old-AthurMaybe it's not a problem related to the driver,,,, intelikey the wifi works well in the WK (workstation) if I use windows, but when I try with ubuntu IT does not detect the connections... In a HP laptop it works well with ubuntu... <-- much easier to understood.... What can I cahnge to have internet...?03:41
frank32matt__: reboot should get you back to a terminal03:41
intelikeymatt__ might have a live CD handy just incase tho...03:42
intelikeyOld-Athur i'm not the networking guy.   i'm the console minimalest idiot.03:43
james296can someone help me out with getting the audio from the radio stations on Amarok to play instead of giving a demux error thing?03:43
frank32james296: If you try a second the same station does it work? there is a bug regarding that03:43
frank32james296: If you try a second time*03:44
james296willing to dress me up as a girl?03:44
Old-AthurJajajaja, ok!!03:44
Old-AthurCan someone else help me, plase?03:44
oloughlin75!ndiswrapper | Old-Athur03:44
ubotuOld-Athur: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:44
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Old-AthurThanks oloughlin75 and thanks ubotu xD03:45
oloughlin75no problema03:45
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james296guess what, your right, it worked03:46
mefisto__so do you need to try each station twice? or is it just the first try that fails?03:47
james296the first try failed03:47
james296now every time I try to launch a station it works03:47
james296even though its not the same station03:47
frank32james296: mefisto__not sure but there is a bug somewhere that has been fixed upstream. or so I've heard03:47
intelikeysub[t]rnl http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d89e8d3b <<< i only reformated it to make it more readable.    looks good though.03:52
sub[t]rnlgood deal03:53
Old-AthurI've to go. Thanks all. Bye bye03:54
illriginalCan anyone help me install Kompozer?03:54
NickPrestasub[t]rnl, I don't know how fast grep is compared to text being piped to awk and sed, but this works: wget -q -O - http://checkip.dyndns.org | grep -oE '[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+'03:55
sub[t]rnlNickPresta➜ nice, less pipes = better imho03:56
mefisto__illriginal: what's the problem?03:56
illriginali do a search for it after i put this into my source list: deb [WWW] http://ppa.launchpad.net/tonyyarusso/ubuntu feisty universe03:56
illriginaland it's still not showin the file (kompozer03:57
oloughlin75NickPresta➜Whats that actually do?03:57
SpamInaCancan i get the .mozconf file for building firefox beta 3?03:58
BluesKajsuddenly we have all these arrows ...is this becoming a one way street ?  : )03:59
NickPrestaoloughlin75, gets your IP from a website and weeds out ugly HTML.03:59
intelikeysub[t]rnl if i were to change anything it would only be adding some quotes  and maybe a help switch.   nothing more.   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d3c8553f0       but like i said looks good as is.03:59
oloughlin75oo, couldnt tell :/03:59
illriginalnevermind mefisto_ i got it03:59
* intelikey likes --help switches in scripts03:59
NickPrestaintelikey, indeed.04:00
mefisto__illriginal: you found it in that repo?04:00
illriginalyeo :P04:01
illriginalhopefully it shows up in my menu after installation04:01
illriginalsweet, it's ready to go :D04:02
* intelikey never leaves well enough alone. http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d585b10d6 04:03
mefisto__does adept have a history function? I think synaptic does04:04
intelikeyooops   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d289877a3   missed one #04:05
BluesKajmefisto__, yes04:05
BluesKajerr adept just shows the last installs04:06
mefisto__BluesKaj: I can't find it04:06
mefisto__ok that's what I thought04:07
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sub[t]rnlintelikey➜ seems that the $0 isn't pulling the script name.  Getting a syntax error04:08
sub[t]rnlintelikey➜ i've heard that $0 isn't reliable, just can't see the error04:08
sub[t]rnlintelikey➜ wait.. nm04:09
cprmptHow do I limit how much bandwidth kubuntu uses?  I'm on a rather small pipe and I dont want to force other people off of the network04:10
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MrJoeycprmpt>  I know you can do it with wget (a command-line webpage getter)04:11
cprmptwell im sort of looking to limit apt04:11
MrJoeyThat's useful unless you're doing something more than simply downloading a file04:11
intelikeysub[t]rnl $0 should always return the name of the script.    but i'm finding a formating issue with your $IP var   seems to contain some strange chars.   let me play with it a little.04:13
stratman4300anyone experience issues with kernel update today??04:15
MrJoeycprmpt> A really hackish way of going about it is to:  mv /usr/bin/wget /usr/bin/wget_bin ; echo 'wget --limit-rate=20k $*' > /usr/bin/wget ; chmod 755 /usr/bin/wget04:19
MrJoeyBe careful with that, it moves and then writes to the file 'wget', so if you're not careful, it wil remove wget and screw up stuff04:20
cprmptyeah, I think ill just wait for the other parties using my pipe to fall asleep :)04:20
MrJoeyI'm assuming that apt-get internally uses wget to download stuff04:20
maduserwgeting debs04:20
MrJoeyI was about to say that :)04:20
maduserwhat differentiates a deb from an rpm?04:21
cprmptgood from evil04:21
maduserthey like do the same thing04:21
anon32maduser, internal format04:21
MrJoeyA deb is a Debian/Ubuntu/debian-based package format04:21
anon32take a few apart with, say, 7-Zip04:21
MrJoeyAn rpm is a Red Hat/Fedora/... package format04:22
maduserand yum?04:22
MrJoeyYum is a package manager that typically uses rpm04:23
MrJoeyThere are other configurations (for instance, Fedora users can use apt and rpms instead of yum and rpms)04:23
madusercan't kubuntu use all three?04:23
NickPrestasub[t]rnl, I have also added an addition to the script (Which checks if Klipper is actually running).  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=m7f70462e04:24
MrJoeyWell, there's alien, but the problem is that different packages are meant to be used for different distros04:24
MrJoeyIf you install a .rpm on Kubuntu, you may run into problems because the RPM wasn't designed for Kubuntu04:25
anon32it will probably not work (tm)04:25
anon32unless it's not binary04:25
sub[t]rnlNickPresta➜ k, excellent.  nice one with the -o switch on grep.  Makes more sense than me trying to hack out everything around my pattern :>04:25
sub[t]rnlNickPresta➜ klipper=`klipper 2>&-` worked, the dcop klipper didn't04:27
engstadTrying out KDE4, what happened with knetworkmanager? I seem to always start it with ALT+F2 knetworkmanager now.04:28
stdinengstad: there is no KDE4 version of knetworkmanager (yet), so you have to start the KDE3 version04:29
snarksterhm mmine works04:30
NickPrestasub[t]rnl, this is what happens for me: http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d10e52f0b. If I replace `dcop klipper` with just `klipper`, the script hangs. *shrugs* Strange.04:30
snarksterah but it is 3.5.804:30
sub[t]rnlneed to have it echo the ip regardless of klipper then04:32
ubotumldonkey is a peer-to-peer filesharing engine supporting several networks and protocols, available in !Universe as 'mldonkey-server'. Clients include mkdonkey-gui (GTK) and KMLDonkey (KDE). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MLDonkey - See also !P2P04:32
mefisto__about k/ubuntu livecds: do they remain static, or will a newer one contain newer updated packages?04:32
NickPrestasub[t]rnl, http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d6292bb14 :)04:34
sub[t]rnlyeah, already fixed.04:34
sub[t]rnlwelp, that baby grew like a weed.  thanks nickp and intel04:36
intelikeysub[t]rnl mind if i edit ?   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d304c16cf04:37
sub[t]rnlnot at all04:37
sub[t]rnlhttp://subtrnl.homelinux.com/getip this is what we've got so far, sec, checking yours04:37
NickPrestasub[t]rnl, just so you know, if you have bind9-host installed, it `checkip` will give wonky results. I had to install the 'host' package (and remove 'bind9-host'04:38
NickPrestawell, I'm heading off to sleep. Early morning tomorrow. Goodnight all.04:40
intelikeyyean wget -q -O - http://checkip.dyndns.org   works as well or maybe a little weller than curl for that.04:40
sub[t]rnlintelikey➜ yup, i don't think curl is included by default either04:41
intelikeyhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d4a95b1b5 << same thing with wget04:41
vglugcan anyone help me to configure sound on kubuntu 7.1004:42
intelikeyand at any rate.  after the formatting issue is worked out.   i'll still say what i said the first time.   looks good to me.04:42
SpamInaCancan i install vista without screwing up grub?04:43
intelikeySpamInaCan prolly not04:43
intelikey!grub | SpamInaCan04:43
ubotuSpamInaCan: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:43
sub[t]rnl!sound | vglug take note to the troubleshooting link.04:44
ubotuvglug take note to the troubleshooting link.: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP304:44
vglugthere sint any soundsystem subdivison in my menu04:47
SpamInaCanhow come when i put my vista cd in it just has a text file that says "This disc contains a "UDF" file system and requires an operating system that supports the ISO-13346 "UDF" file system specification."04:48
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vglughow to find the sound module in the kmenu04:56
vglug<ubotu> there isnt any sound system in my system settings04:57
vglugis there any different way to find it out04:57
intelikeylspci    or   lshw -C audio04:58
intelikeysorry lshw -C MULTIMEDIA04:59
intelikeylspci | grep -i MULTIMEDIA05:00
intelikeyi like the lshw better.  but that's just me.05:00
intelikeysub[t]rnl i only slightly ammended a script that i already had and added some of your code.   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d4e8996c805:06
* intelikey also likes the "keep it simple stupid" approach.05:07
intelikeyvglug does    cat /proc/asound/cards     tell you anything ?05:09
intelikeynever mind.05:09
intelikeyvglug does    cat /proc/asound/cards     tell you anything ?05:13
Cicero_123reHello room05:19
Cicero_123everything is reinstalled but i had the same problem. the system froze up during install, and i had to manually shut off the computer. the apt-get updater doesnt work. when i click it it sez there is a conflict and that it is already running. how do i fix it?05:21
Level15Cicero_123: if installer crashes, try text mode install05:21
Cicero_123Level15: text mode install? is it on the install menu of the install disk?05:22
ubotuThe Alternate CD is a classical text-mode installation CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD.  It can also be used as an upgrade CD. - See also !minimal05:23
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs05:24
intelikey!minimal | intelikey takse the bot's advice and sees !minimal05:25
ubotuintelikey takse the bot's advice and sees !minimal: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD05:25
Kdomn37hi, can somebody perhaps point me in the direction of some information on how i patch the kernel?05:26
intelikeyworth a shot05:27
aparnabhey i need some help anybody there05:30
intelikeyKdomn37 http://kernel.org/faq/#kernelbuild05:32
mefisto__everybody's there05:32
intelikeyaparnab nope.05:32
Cicero_123reHello. last this happened someone had some sudo commands that fixed the problem. i do not want to spend another three hours reinstalling kubuntu. does anyone know the commands to get apt-get to shut off and stop conflicting with itself?05:33
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »05:34
Cicero_123thats it! :)05:34
intelikeyyour only about the fourty quentillionenth person to ask that.05:35
Cicero_123thanx. :)05:35
Cicero_123one more question... how do i access !terminal05:35
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Cicero_123is it the same as konsole?05:36
* Thecks nods.05:36
intelikeyit's called konsole    either alt+f2 and type konsole   or in the kmenu system05:36
Cicero_123intelikey: thanx. :)  this is my 5th day using kubuntu linux from win2k and even though i goofed up and wrecked the first install by playing around in root, i really like kde.05:37
intelikeyCicero_123 you'll form a liengthy list of "dont ever do this's"   but yes we love FOSS05:38
intelikeyfoss = free open source software.05:38
intelikeyCicero_123 one main thing to remember while learning.   if it requires root/sudo learn what the command does before you issue it.05:40
intelikeyCicero_123 and the linux users must know is      man man   <<< type that in a konsole  and learn about the man command.05:40
intelikeyaside from that.  welcome to linux.05:41
mefisto__Cicero_123: and have you ever wrecked a windows system by playing around as administrator (ie default windows user)?05:43
tantalus_hey can anyone tell me how i can access other irc channels?05:45
intelikey/join #blah05:45
tantalus_and the list of channels?05:45
intelikey/list   but dont do that.05:45
intelikeyit's been known to flood people off the server.05:46
mefisto__if you're using konversation, you can get to it from the Window menu too05:46
tantalus_i am using konversation05:46
intelikeytantalus_ a lot of the time i just join and if the channel isn't there i'm the only one in it...05:47
intelikeyeasy enough to /part #blah  on empty channels.05:47
tantalus_you just guess the name? i've never used irc05:47
mefisto__hey, you can open a konsole session in konversation05:47
intelikeytantalus_ lot of the time   yes.05:48
lengaumefisto__ how?05:48
mefisto__lengau: window menu05:48
intelikeymefisto__ i use me irc client as a shell when needed.   /exec blah05:48
tantalus_it's the same as just using a terminal?05:49
intelikeyheh   /exec -o ls -l /bin/sh05:49
mefisto__intelikey: so that's a standard thing in irc clients?05:49
lengauGreat... now I've got even less reason to leave konversation...05:49
intelikeythe -o makes it output to the channel.  else it is only seen by you.05:49
intelikeymefisto__ yes05:49
intelikeyalso it's normal for   /help   to give you a list of slash commands avalable05:51
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Agent_boboh woops i don't think i have a kernel installed either...06:02
Agent_bobi suspose that that could be problematic while installing lilo ....06:03
Agent_bobis it this quiet in #ubuntu too ?    if so i'll go troll that channel a while.06:04
maduserits always quiet06:04
madusera night06:04
Agent_bobno not in here it's not.     and it's only night on one side of the globe06:05
maduserand where are you?06:05
Agent_bobwhere are you ?06:05
maduseryour in dalls06:06
Agent_bobno  but that hardly matters.06:07
maduseroh you gots an apache server06:07
Agent_bobheh  cherokee06:08
maduserwow your site is slow06:08
maduseryou should get xampp06:09
feedthe5000after adding the download source.list do I just select everything to install kde4?06:10
maduserwait awhile before you get it06:10
feedthe5000that unstable?06:10
cleansweepI'm sorry... asked this a moment ago but I'm not sure it went through. Konverstation completely froze my computer after the network failed. Does anybody know the licenses for Compiz Fusion and the Emerald Window Decorator? Their websites don't seem to mention them.06:10
feedthe5000do you know when the final version might come out?06:11
maduserget with with the next version of kubuntu06:11
cleansweepare they GPL v2? etc.06:11
feedthe5000thanks i appreciate it06:12
Agent_boblicenses are stored in /usr/share/common-licenses/06:12
plantainHey, my Wifi (ipw2200) just sits on "Configuring Device". What could I be doing wrong?06:12
prince_jammysyeah just search for it in /usr/share06:12
Agent_bob!wifi | plantain possably this can help06:13
ubotuplantain possably this can help: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:13
stdincleansweep: anything in main or universe has to be "Free", usually that's GPL. If you have them installed the licence will be in /usr/share/doc/<package>/copyright06:15
prince_jammysthis worked: find /usr/share/ -iname 'copyright' | grep compiz06:16
Daisuke_Idomain is officially supported, universe is community supported06:16
cleansweepthanks, princce06:17
prince_jammysany excuse to grep06:17
plantainAgent_bob: I can't find anything in there relating to my problem :'(06:19
Agent_bobirc lingo is so different.     bandade = assistant that is not allowed to join the channel...06:20
brandon_problem here....06:21
plantainoh well, I guess I'll try a reboot :S06:22
brandon_I was installing the restricted repositories for kubuntu and accidently exited out of adept and now i can't seem to completly uninstall it and my mp3 support won't work for amarok06:22
brandon_i think i need to delete the files that I d/l so that I can reinstall them but when I try and remove it doesn't actually delete the packages06:22
prince_jammysbrandon: yeah i had that problem, but i don't remember how i fixed it06:23
Agent_bobbrandon_ apt-get clean06:23
prince_jammysbrandon: i think i backed up the files and deleted them, like you said06:23
prince_jammyscuz i did it with aptitude, which made a mess06:24
brandon_agent what all will that delete?06:25
brandon_everything or just what is broken?06:25
prince_jammysman apt-get | grep clean06:26
Agent_bobpipe man through grep ?????     why not just use the search feature in less and see the whole text ?06:27
Agent_bobman less06:27
prince_jammysthat too06:27
prince_jammysi just use it to only see the snippet i want06:28
prince_jammysusually with -A 4 or something like that, but the above worked06:29
prince_jammysyeah better is man apt-get | grep -A 4 clean06:31
Agent_bobwell what did i miss in here while i trolled #ubuntu ?06:34
prince_jammysnot much06:34
madusernot person with cherokee server06:34
Agent_bobmaduser you still hung up on my webserver ?06:35
maduserwhys the server so slow, you have comcast06:35
Agent_bobi have dialup06:35
maduserwell then....06:35
maduserget dsl06:35
maduseror fios06:35
maduserbut it is really cheep06:35
Agent_bobyou buy it.  i'll run it.     else i'll use dialup cause i'm cheep.06:36
brandon_<< noob here06:36
brandon_I'm still having trouble cleaning up the kubuntu-restricted-respository06:36
brandon_those commands didn't seem to work because...06:36
brandon_oh jeez i answered my own question06:37
prince_jammysthere's a folder somewhere called "partial"06:37
prince_jammysthe solution has to do with that, but i don't remember what it is06:37
Agent_bobbrandon_ sudo dpkg --configure -a ;sudo apt-get clean ;sudo apt-get update ;sudo apt-get install -f06:38
Agent_bobclose adept and run that  ^     then open adept and viola06:38
brandon_thanks agent i'll try06:42
Agent_bob<_Oz_:##windows> Vista is thwarting me.  All I want to do is use Windows Media player to open a movie which is stored on a network drive.  I can do this easily in VLC.   In WIn Media Player, the simple has become extremely difficult.06:42
CharonP1does kubuntu set a default root password? because the install never asked me for one, and I cannot authen. su06:42
maduseryour the root06:42
brandon_i just wiped windows and i have about a total of 2 weeks of experience with linux but I like it so far06:42
Agent_bobCharonP1 no. it doesn't set any root password.06:42
maduserin kubutu for some reason the defult user is the root06:42
stdin!sudo | CharonP1 (use "sudo -i" to get a root shell)06:43
ubotuCharonP1 (use "sudo -i" to get a root shell): sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.06:43
maduseryour passwors is the root by defult06:43
CharonP1so the password is nothing06:43
Agent_bobmaduser no.06:43
CharonP1i dont use sudo, I use su06:43
Agent_bobmaduser the default user is "root jr." but that's not root.06:43
maduserthats close enogh06:44
Daisuke_Ido!root | CharonP106:44
ubotuCharonP1: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo06:44
Agent_bobmaduser that's becuase the message is incorrect.  it should inform you that it's using kdesudo   but it doesn't06:44
stdinCharonP1: why don't you use sudo, what's the reason?06:44
maduserthat makes sense06:44
Agent_bobCharonP1 sudo su -   if you want to use su06:45
Daisuke_Idoeven that's not recommended06:45
stdinbut that's caused 2 PAM requests, overhead06:45
stdinsudo (auth 1), su - (auth 2)06:45
Agent_bobDaisuke_Ido but reaches the desired end.06:45
CharonP1because su is an easy way to get root terminal without opening root terminal then I can go back to user via exit06:46
stdinsudo -i (only one auth)06:46
Daisuke_Idoif you're doing so much as a root user, maybe ubuntu isn't the distro for you.  and if you're new to linux, you shouldn't be touching the root account anyway without knowing exactly WHAT you're doing, and why you're doing it06:46
Agent_bobstdin i know that.   but he wants to use su.   so i gave him an easy way.06:46
stdinCharonP1: and that's exactly what sudo -i gives06:46
Agent_bobmaybe he likes the su log06:47
CharonP1<stdin> ok, I'll just have to make an alias="sudo -i" thanks06:47
Daisuke_Ido(or implicitly trusting someone else that's giving you instructions)06:47
Daisuke_IdoAgent_bob: also possible06:47
Agent_bobone never knows whys someone else makes a specific request.06:48
CharonP1or <Agent_bob> i mean06:48
prince_jammyswhat's wrong with su?06:48
stdin/var/log/auth.log logs all sudo requests ;)06:48
Agent_bobprince_jammys nothing.  nothing wrong with sudo either.06:49
Agent_bobprince_jammys it's all about preferances.06:49
Daisuke_Idobut you have to go common denominator around here :)  people demanding root access are either a) not ubuntu's target audience and would be better served by another distro, or b) a completely new linux user who believes that root is the best way to run (a la windows)06:49
prince_jammysthat's what i thought06:49
CharonP1actually, I use su a lot06:49
prince_jammysDaisuke why do you say that?06:50
stdinI only use sudo su to login to another (non-root) users account06:50
prince_jammyswhy is ubuntu not for root users?06:50
Daisuke_Idoprince_jammys: that in no way covers every possibility06:50
CharonP1however, at this current moment, I am just trying to cp a .jpg to /usr/share/wallpapers06:50
* Agent_bob is absolutely not ubuntu's target audience!06:50
* Agent_bob is covered by it.06:51
Daisuke_Idothat was worded poorly, but i don't really know how to clear it up06:51
stdinCharonP1: "sudo cp source dest", you only need one command06:51
prince_jammysubuntu's pretty flexible06:51
prince_jammysyou can run gui apps if you want, you can hack if you want06:51
stdinrather than, su -; cp source dest;exit06:51
Daisuke_Idoubuntu is flexible, but not gentoo flexible06:51
Agent_bobDaisuke_Ido no. it's not poorly worded.  it makes good sense.06:51
prince_jammysoh i've never used gentoo06:51
CharonP1what is ubuntus target audience?06:51
Daisuke_Idoubuntu is for the user that just wants to get things done06:51
stdinHuman Beings ;)06:52
CharonP1I always thought of linux as a power users system06:52
prince_jammysapparently gui users06:52
Daisuke_IdoCharonP1: linux is a kernel06:52
prince_jammysthe "human beings" thing i think is pretty silly06:52
CharonP1sorry gnu linux06:52
Daisuke_Idoand it's becoming more and more a desktop OS06:52
prince_jammysimplication i guess is that other linuxes are for freaks06:52
CharonP1* gnu/linux06:53
Agent_bobprince_jammys i see im not the only one that noticed that.06:53
stdinprince_jammys: means general people, not necessarily the tech elite06:53
Daisuke_Idoubuntu is aimed at people who want to use their computers to work, not work on their computers06:53
stdinalthough the tech elite are people too :)06:53
prince_jammysyeah well that's not what "human beings" means06:53
Daisuke_Idobut yes, it is flexible enough to accomodate everyone else06:53
Agent_bobDaisuke_Ido not06:53
CharonP1I'm a person06:53
prince_jammysme too, i thin06:53
CharonP1who like the su command06:53
sub[t]rnli'm not06:53
prince_jammysi think it's a bad slogan06:54
Agent_bob<Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu is aimed at people who want to use their computers to work, not work on their computers <<<< if that were remotely true.  all the compiz eyecandy would not be in gutsy06:54
CharonP1my first distro was ubuntu06:54
Daisuke_IdoAgent_bob: the phrase refers to people using their computers rather than tinkering endlessly06:54
CharonP1but I've since traveled through many distro's06:54
stdinsudo is much more flexible that su, you don't have to give out your root pass to admins and you can control exactly what commands any particular user/group can run06:54
stdinsudo is su++06:54
Daisuke_Idostdin: with polymorphism and inheritance?06:55
Agent_bobstdin only if configured    the default ubuntu /etc/sudoers makes sudo su--06:55
stdinDaisuke_Ido: if you look at the sudo config file it looks like it :p it even has "classes"06:55
prince_jammysi thought that su was just like sudo, only for multiple commands, ie a mini-session06:56
CharonP1I think I got used to su in debian06:56
prince_jammysi'll read up on it06:56
stdinAgent_bob: if you're the type to stick to defaults then you aren't the type that wants/needs extra functions/configuration ;)06:56
prince_jammysright, a human being06:57
CharonP1because when I moved to debian i was unable to figure out how to add myself to the sudoers list06:57
Agent_bobstdin i'm the type that runs a nosuid system   remember?06:57
prince_jammysin other words06:57
Agent_bobi.e. su and sudo are worthless here.06:57
stdinAgent_bob: yeah, but you're über 1337 :)06:57
Agent_boboh be nice.  no need to be insulting.   i can take a hint.06:58
brandon_alright i've done all the steps that you guys told me for the amarok problem and no dice ...can I manually get to the files that i d/l and delete the mp3 ones myself?06:58
prince_jammysis there a fast way to prefix who you are responding to here? i've never used irc before06:58
brandon_so that it will d/l the package again and install it?06:58
stdinAgent_bob: not an insult, it's a comment if anything06:58
ubotuYou can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.06:58
stdineveryone loves <tab> !06:59
prince_jammysstdin: ah06:59
Cicero_123reHello room06:59
Agent_bobi use [tab] almost as much as [backspace]06:59
prince_jammysAgent_bob: i will too07:00
prince_jammysbig fan of tab07:00
prince_jammyshorrible typist07:00
Cicero_123i cant get dvdś to play. i get the error "no plugin found to handle this resource (dvd:///dev/hdd). What should i do?07:01
prince_jammysthere's a library you need07:02
* Cicero_123 rummages around for his library card... :)07:02
stdinhave you installed libdvdnav4, libdvdread3 and possibly libdvdcss2 (from medibuntu) ?07:02
prince_jammysoh no, the kaffeine plugin or something07:02
prince_jammysi went through that07:02
prince_jammysthere you go, stdin knows07:03
Cicero_123prince_jammys: no, i just started using linux/kubuntu a few days ago.07:03
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org07:03
Cicero_123prince_jammys: new reinstall after i messed up when playing in root. i wont do that anytime soon.07:03
Cicero_123thanx for the info.07:04
prince_jammysCicero_123: looks like kubuntu-restricted-extras might have it07:05
stdinit should have everything except libdvdcss07:06
prince_jammysstdin: apt-cache doesn't show that for me, but shows libdvdread307:06
prince_jammyswhen i search07:07
stdinlibdvdcss2 isn't in the ubuntu archives, for legal reasons07:07
prince_jammysoh right07:07
Cicero_123prince_jammys: the instructions look complicated. i assume that the commands are to be run in Konsole?07:07
prince_jammysCicero_123: yeah you can try "sudo apt-get kubuntu-restricted-extras" first and see07:08
Cicero_123prince_jammys: k. am doing now.07:09
prince_jammyswas it already installed?07:09
Cicero_123invaliid operation07:10
prince_jammyshow come?07:10
stdin* "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras"07:10
stdin(missing "install")07:10
prince_jammysoh right07:11
Cicero_123prince_jammys: wow. lots of options07:11
prince_jammystry what stdin wrote07:11
prince_jammysapt-get install07:11
Cicero_123actually one option, yes or no, but a lot of unpacking. :)07:11
prince_jammysyou're on kde, right?07:12
prince_jammysmeaning your desktop is kde07:12
Cicero_123prince_jammys: yes. 5th day using linux/kubuntu.07:12
Cicero_123my system cant handle vista, and i dont like xp, and win2k is getting old.07:13
prince_jammysCicero_123: have you tried playing an mp3 file?07:13
Agent_bobwin2k was old when they wrote it.07:13
Cicero_123prince_jammys: no, just dvd and data cd's07:13
ForgeAusI've decided to reinstall my AndLinux07:14
ForgeAusand toy with a few things to find out why it died07:14
ForgeAusso that I can reinstall it and avoid doing that for next time07:14
Agent_bobForgeAus lessons by the try it and reformat methood !07:15
ForgeAusAgent, yeah problem was I did so many updates to it I didn't really feel like starting again from scratch07:15
ForgeAusnothing good about downloading the same stuff a second time07:15
Agent_bobi'll second that motion07:16
Agent_bobdialup dictates that you only dl the updates one time.07:16
Cicero_123i dont know why i didnt switch sooner. it's a steep learning curve, but the system is great, and unassuming... i  like that.07:16
ForgeAusand it might help me move on with my other Kuubntu installs07:16
ForgeAusCicero :) you didn't know what you were missing?07:17
Agent_bobCicero_123 unassuming and ubuntu don't even beling in the same post.    you have never tried a realy unassuming linux system.07:17
Agent_bobbelong even07:18
prince_jammysCicero_123: so after you're done you're still gonna need the libdvdcss2 package07:18
prince_jammysand then you'll be set07:19
Cicero_123unassuming as in it doesnt assume that dont really want to do something that i do. or assume that i want my word processor set up a certain way and makeme search for hours on how to undo the automatic settings.07:19
Cicero_123prince_jammys: i have a blue and grey screen in konsole, that looks like a java user agreement, and the screen is stuck.07:20
LynoureCicero_123: some distroes don't even assume you want xserver, let alone that you want kde07:20
prince_jammysCicero_123: mmm07:21
Agent_bobor that you want want to mount anything in /media   or that you want a splash screen at boot time.....07:21
stdinCicero_123: use Page Down to move and use tab and enter to press the option to show you agree07:21
Cicero_123prince_jammys: thanx.07:22
Cicero_123prince_jammys: i see sun is still a stickler for fine print...07:23
prince_jammysyou mean stdin07:23
prince_jammysi just installed it myself07:24
prince_jammysturns out i didn't have it - i don't play dvds on this machine, but i have a player07:24
Cicero_123Agent_bob: but i like that. only what i want running when i want it running. if i can get it running. :)07:24
ahronwhat deliniation?07:24
prince_jammysCicero_123: nice thing about ubuntu is you get a kick start by having everything installed by default, and as you learn you can change everything around07:25
Agent_bobCicero_123 heh.  yeah  that's why i've often said  "default = the starting point on the long road to right"07:25
prince_jammysCicero_123:  then you can mount stuff wherever you want, mess with configs of whatever you want -- but at least it's done for you at the beginning07:26
Cicero_123ForgeAus: yeah. lol. didnt know what i was  missing. if i need to know i can look it up eventually. :)07:26
Cicero_123prince_jammys: how do i tell if it is finished?07:27
Agent_bob!info rutebook07:27
uboturutebook (source: rutebook): Linux: Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition, an online book. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0-1.1 (gutsy), package size 5468 kB, installed size 8264 kB07:27
prince_jammysyou get your shell prompt back07:27
Cicero_123k. it is done07:27
prince_jammystry playing, but you probably won't be able to until you get the final libdvdcss207:28
Cicero_123prince_jammys: type exit, or quit?07:28
prince_jammysyou don't have to type anything07:28
Cicero_123nvrmnd. i used the mouse.07:28
prince_jammysif you have a prompt, it means it's done07:28
Agent_bob^D works too07:29
prince_jammysare you doing it in a gui or did you run sudo aptitude or something07:29
Cicero_123prince_jammys: i ran it in konsole07:29
LynoureI chose "update" next to an empty language list in klavaro, and now the whole program insists on using Czech language (not any of my languages) despite being purged and reinstalled. How can I revert it to English?07:29
prince_jammysoh well then after it's done with your command and you get a shell prompt it means you're done, and can close the window if you want, or type whatever else if you want to keep going07:30
Cicero_123woohoo! kaffeine found my dvd07:30
Agent_bobLynoure ummm you will loose the customization but   rm -r ~/.kde    and ctrl+alt+backspace   should do it.07:30
plantainWell, updating and rebooting still hasn't fixed my wifi07:30
prince_jammysif you do a lot of terminal stuff from the desktop i highly recommend "yakuake"07:30
prince_jammysi adore yakuake07:31
plantainIs there anywhere else that could perhaps help me get my ipw2200 to work?07:31
LynoureAgent_bob: not quite ready to throw away all my kde settings over this....07:31
LynoureAgent_bob: that command would make my kwallet stuff disappear too, I think, and that would just be bad07:31
Cicero_123prince_jammys: what was the other group that i might want to dl?07:31
LynoureAgent_bob: I already checked .kde/share/apps  and no klavaro there anymore07:32
prince_jammysbut that one is more of a pain07:32
Agent_bobLynoure then kcontrol > language (which you probably can't read) > language settings07:32
Cicero_123prince_jammys: same command?07:32
prince_jammyswon't work07:32
prince_jammysyou have to add repositories for it because of legal crap07:32
Agent_bobLynoure requires a restart of kde to take affect as the message box will be saying.07:33
||arifaXprince_jammys: me to like yakuake as well07:33
prince_jammysgoogle "ubuntu playing dvds" for the final step, unless someone here knows07:33
prince_jammysyou'll see it in the first listing07:33
prince_jammysyeah yakuake i love07:33
Agent_bobLynoure i was assuming that you could not read the menus anymore also is why i mentioned the rm command.07:33
LynoureAgent_bob: language setting for all other apps are fine... also fine in kcontrol07:33
Cicero_123prince_jammys: yakuake is a terminal program?07:34
LynoureAgent_bob: it's just a klavaro problem07:34
prince_jammysyeah "sudo apt-get install yakuake"07:34
Agent_bobLynoure oh ?   then where is it that the i18 is hosed ?07:34
LynoureAgent_bob: in klavaro07:34
Agent_boboh   sorry.  my bad.07:34
prince_jammysit uses konsole and springs up when you hit f1207:34
prince_jammysgoes away when you click anywhere else07:34
prince_jammysit kicks ass07:34
LynoureAgent_bob: I'm wondering where in the world it's storing them during and after the purge...07:35
Agent_bobLynoure navagate to ~/.kde/default/applications/klavaro/     errr something like that07:35
Agent_bobdon't remember the exact path.07:36
Agent_bobbut anyway.   nuke the klavaro subdir07:36
LynoureAgent_bob: like I already said, no .kde/share/apps/klavaro (no .kde/default at all...)07:37
Cicero_123yakuake is nice07:37
prince_jammysit's great07:37
LynoureAgent_bob: could be in some gnome place too, klavaro being a gtk+ app?07:37
Agent_bobLynoure ummm use find on it.     find ./.??* -iname *klavaro*07:38
prince_jammyswhenever i'm on someone else's computer i always instinctively start banging on f12, expecting yakuake07:38
Cicero_123thanx all. :D07:38
Cicero_123one more question. when i set up a second user account it wont let me use app-get.07:39
LynoureAgent_bob: ah, too simple :)  .klavaro   :)07:39
prince_jammysnot if they don't have admin privileges07:39
stdinCicero_123: you need to add the user to the "admin" group in system settings07:39
Agent_bobwell we can make it harder if you want....07:40
LynoureAgent_bob: shouldn't that get nuked too with aptitude purge?07:40
Cicero_123ah. k. thanx.07:40
Agent_bobno Lynoure no package manager will touch ~/07:40
prince_jammysnon-admins can't install stuff07:40
Cicero_123alright! 5th day of Kubuntu from win2k and loving it!  Thanx all! :)  bbl.07:40
LynoureAgent_bob: they seem to touch ~/.kde though07:40
apparleSlimeyPete: Are you there07:40
LynoureAgent_bob: or maybe I remember wrong :)07:40
Agent_bob$HOME is off limits to apt07:40
prince_jammysCicero_123: yeah, it's great07:41
prince_jammysCicero_123: especially compared to Win07:41
Cicero_123prince_jammys: thanx for your help. i really appreciate it. :)07:41
LynoureAgent_bob: in a way I can understand why, on the other hand I wish there was a command that iterated through home dirs and purged the daylight out of things07:41
prince_jammysmy pleasure07:41
Cicero_123bedtime for cicero...07:42
Cicero_123night all.07:42
prince_jammysCicero_123: good night07:42
Agent_bobLynoure there is   rm -r ~/   heh.07:42
LynoureAgent_bob: :P07:42
apparleAgent_bob: do you know how to use apt-zip?07:42
Agent_bobapparle i think so.07:43
Agent_bobwhat ya need ?07:43
Agent_bobapparle or was that a general Q.07:44
Agent_boboh ok.07:44
Agent_bobapparle you install it on the machine that is not networked,   run the apt-zip install package   script and it will generate a list of needed packages with url's for them.   you carry that file to the networked box and get the files,  then move them to the offline box and run the install script that the command also generated.07:45
Agent_bobapparle yes i see your pm  but i'm not registered. so i can't answer.07:46
Agent_bob!pm > apparle07:47
CharonP1Agent_bob: so all I had to do was set a password07:47
apparleAgent_bob: Whenever I do that, I get a error msg "<package> has no installation candidate" or something like that. I don't remeber it accurately07:47
CharonP1Agent_bob: that sudo -i thing just didn't work. it took me away from my current working directory07:48
apparleAgent_bob: I thought that my question was rather offtoic so thought to PM. I will ask next time07:48
apparleSlimeyPete: Are you there07:49
Agent_bobapparle um you may have to copy a working package cache from a networked box     i.e.  tar -czf package.tgz /var/lib/apt/lists /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin     and carry package.tgz  to the non-networked box and install it07:50
beenerthis is were i go to get help right?07:50
Agent_bobbeener might as well. every one else does   :))07:51
Agent_bobi mean yes.   ask away.07:51
beenerthank you07:51
beenerwell i posted on the ubuntu forum but what ever i post there never gets answered07:52
apparleAgent_bob: Explain it a little more please07:52
Agent_bobanswers are free,  but correct answers may cost extra07:52
beenerever sence the update with the xorg kubuntu has been actin wierd07:52
beenerthe wireless became very unstable07:53
apparleAgent_bob: Was that for me07:53
beenerstarted to take up to 30 min to connect without fristing out07:54
alromaithiwho here made an art of our hes KDE? i need to talk to him without telling him how homicidal maniac months of trying myself07:54
Agent_bobapparle the repos for the non-networked box must contain the package you are trying to install.   i.e.  if the "package cache"  or  "repository listings"   don't include main universe  then you may have to copy a working copy via the command i showed you  ^^^^07:54
sn00zer# comments a line, how do i comment paragraphs?07:54
Agent_bobapparle i'm not real good at trying to explain how something works.   that's a short comming you'll have to overlook.07:55
Lynourealromaithi: hes? Do you mean who made the kubuntu official art? or who makes icons? or just who has tweaked the look of their kde?07:55
beenerso i ended up disableing the restricted drive hopeing i could conect to harline and then work on ndiswrapper to get it wireless again07:55
beenerbut the hardline would conect either (only happend after the update)07:56
apparleAgent_bob: I am not interested it in how it works. Please repeat commands in qoutes and explain what to do after that. I am new to linux07:56
beeneri install the ndiswrapper via .deb both the commen and the utils but when i go to modprobe ndiswrapper07:56
alromaithiLynoure: your saying tweak? so KDE needs an expert to tweak it not just drag and drop and make your desktop look slick as you want it to be ?07:56
Lynourealromaithi: I'm just trying to figure out what you want...07:57
beeneri end up geting a error saying there isnt a ndiswrapper.ko07:57
Agent_bobthere is some kind of bug in the update,   it's been producing verious issues from network to display driver07:57
alromaithiwith my expirience i see GNome is easier to make it look great , wiht my KDE i just got KDE 4 downlkoad kbfx and changed my icons and panel and theme changed but nothign fancy tell me whats fancy?07:57
prince_jammyssn00zer: i just do it with # on each line07:58
beeneris there a way to undo the udate?07:58
Lynourealromaithi: If you are just looking for kde vs. gnome fistfight, I don't do those for free :)07:58
prince_jammysif you use kate, just select the stuff to comment and do Control-D07:58
prince_jammyssn00zer:  to uncomment, select and Control-Shift-D07:58
alromaithiim wanting somehting for great colors a glossy look for the eyes to be comfort and have a slick touch with the panel which shows the edges of each task in a slick way , why no one make such themes please post me your desktop i think im day dreaming for a future release or something or im still behind everybody else07:58
bentob0xwhy does the DCOP server need access to my KWallet?07:58
beenerand is there a way to fix the ndiswrapper.ko thing (im pretty sure it has to do with it being the 1.50commen and 1.9 util)07:59
prince_jammysalromaithi: i make themes that are the exact opposite of that07:59
alromaithiprince_jammys: so your the gothic group?07:59
prince_jammysalromaithi: no, just flat, non 3d icons07:59
apparleAgent_bob: I know I am asking too much but please reply07:59
alromaithisorry then prince_jammys07:59
sn00zerprince_jammys, is there not a way to comment blocks of text like /*  */?08:00
prince_jammysalromaithi: i have redrawn the whole OpenWorld theme in svg08:00
Lynourealromaithi: If you want help/support of some sort, could you rephrase what you want help with?  Or start with checking kde-look.org, they might have what you want08:00
beeneragent if you are willing to help may pm you so im not so confused08:00
beenermay i pm*08:00
prince_jammyssn00zer: i think there is (i assume you're talking shell scripts) but i don't remember -- try "abs-guide" online08:00
beenerits very conjested08:00
Agent_bobapparle on linux box with inet    "tar -czf package.tgz /var/lib/apt/lists /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin /etc/apt/sources.list "    copy/move packages.tgz to the non-inet linux box   and "tar -C / -xzf package.tgz "   then run the apt-zip install <packagenameyouwant>08:01
sn00zerprince_jammys, ok, thanks :-)08:01
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apparleAgent_bob: I don't have to give the loaction for extraction??08:02
Agent_bobbeener sorry i'm not registered, so pm is out of the question for me.08:02
Agent_bobapparle it's /08:02
alromaithiLynoure: i have many things i got from KDE look , but many many things cant be installed like themes , i dunno how you do them where are the How To install Theme or how to install plasma or how to install plasmiods or how to install icons or how to install or tweak and configure taskpanels etc... for a noob to be happy ,  i can say i used KDE for a year but im still a noob because every time i boot KDE i get a headache but with GNome if08:02
alromaithii show you how myne looks you will be amazed ,. i have a user = look of mac , and user = look of better then vista , and user = look of glossy eye comfort , and user = customized legend potraitec ubuntu style.08:02
beenerwell ill stick it out... i hate being on the windows side.08:02
Lynourealromaithi: no support need or question then?08:03
apparleAgent_bob: thanks.  :)   :)   :)08:03
alromaithigoogle is poor for such search quotes that i mentioned Lynoure08:03
prince_jammyssn00zer: you can install "abs-guide" on your box if you want all the docs locally ... good if you want bash-scripting references08:03
Agent_bobapparle you will want to man apt-zip to lear a little more about it.   but it's pretty simple.08:03
Lynourealromaithi: hmm, I didn't tell you to google anything... I'm confused now.08:03
alromaithipost me all the how to's for a customer who wants to get most out of an EyeCandy Technology for KDE bro08:04
prince_jammyssn00zer: you get them html-browsable and pdf -- they download into /usr/share/doc if you get abs-guide with apt-get08:04
apparleAgent_bob: Actually I know how the things you told work but I am not good at commands. Thanks08:05
Agent_bobapparle welcome.08:05
apparleAny body here is Indian or right now in India08:05
Agent_bobi'm indian   but not india indian08:05
beenerso is there a way for me to get the ndiswrapper.ko08:05
Agent_bobbeener ndiswraper is on the install cd i think.08:06
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:06
beenerive already install it. though it is the 1.50 version08:06
apparleAgent_bob: I know that I need an Indian to get that apt lists as I need an indian mirror08:07
beenerand the util 1.908:07
Agent_bobwell you are ahead of me already.  i've never installed it.08:07
apparleAny mehtod by which I can get in contact with an Indian08:07
beeneri just cant get the modprobe thing to work08:07
Agent_bobapparle ah yes. sorry i was just interjecting.    answering questions for *hours makes one want to just talk some times...08:08
Agent_bobbeener sudo modprobe ndiswrapper08:08
Agent_bobwhat it says ?08:08
apparleHow to get to community pages08:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about community - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:09
Agent_bobcheck the main site  http://ubuntu.com08:09
beenerFATAL: could not open '/lib/modules/.../ndiswrapper.ko': no such file or directory08:10
beenerim screwd because theres no way to get linux online now08:10
apparleIs there a GUI for mencoder08:10
beenerim stuck with M$08:10
prince_jammysapparle: i've been making one08:11
alromaithibeener: your with Microsoft Soft?08:11
beeneron it now08:11
alromaithi!!!!! need a medic for beener08:11
prince_jammysapparle: but havent finished08:11
apparleprince_jammys: On which language08:11
prince_jammysapparle: just using kommander08:11
beener... i hate it ever sence i installed kubuntu never left it but now...08:12
prince_jammysapparle: basically you have a window with checkboxes and a "convert" button08:12
apparleprince_jammys: That's a good idea. When will it be done08:13
prince_jammysapparle: there is a gui out there i think, but it's not in the main repositories. don't remember what it's called08:13
Agent_bobbeener several listing on google.com/linux  search for "ndiswrapper.ko': no such file"  i'm sorry i'm no help with that.08:13
prince_jammysapparle: soon, but unless it's really good i won't put it out there. just for home use -- doesnt check for bad input, etc.08:13
apparlebeener: I know how it feels about M$ after using linux (rather hopeless)08:14
beenerits ok i understand| ive been to all them i need to be on the internet fix the problem but i cant go hardlined08:14
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* Agent_bob doesn't do windows08:15
apparleprince_jammys: I suggest that you add a textbox at bottom to see the result or status and the replies of mencoder08:15
prince_jammysapparle: oh yeah i have that08:16
beeneris there a way to text base conect ot a wired conection08:16
prince_jammysapparle: the terminal output comes out in a dumb terminal, ala synaptic08:16
Agent_bobwith one of the cute little flip down switches...08:16
prince_jammysapparle: i just do so many projects like that - and i get sidetracked, takes me a while to finish08:17
Agent_bobbeener ifconfig eth0 <ip> up08:17
apparleprince_jammys: then you are doing it well. Do it fast. many people are waiting for a good one !!. Search for it in google and you will see08:17
Agent_bobbeener sudo ifconfig eth0 up     <<<for example.08:17
beenerso that will set the ip also08:18
prince_jammysapparle: i know it's weird that there apparently isn't a gui for something like mencoder08:18
Agent_bobcan use ifup   for dhcp connections i think08:18
Agent_bobdhclient to reget the ip08:18
prince_jammysapparle: cuz command-line mencoder is pretty confusing, lots of parameters08:18
beeneri hope this works. thanks08:18
Agent_bobnetworking is what linux does best,  so well infact that there are "if it were possable" too many networking tools.08:19
prince_jammysapparle: the thing is that mencoder has so many freakin features that to do a comprehensive gui is a bit of work08:19
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prince_jammysit's like imagemagick, it can do so much stuff08:20
Agent_bobmultiple http servers multiple ftp servers  multiple * networking * . *08:20
stfHi. I use KDE 3.5.8 in Gutsy. When I do Alt+F2 "http://google.com", a konq icon starts bouncing as usual, but no window appears. Alt+F2 "konqueror http://google.com" works fine. Also tried "kfmclient exec http://google.com" in a konsole, but got no error output (no window appeared). Could anyone help?08:21
Agent_bobyour way my way the linux way the ubuntu way the debian way and even at times the right way.08:21
apparleprince_jammys: do it as fast a s possible. i am waiting and also are many others08:22
Agent_bobstf ummm no /usr/bin/x-www-browser   set  ?08:22
Agent_bobjust a thought08:23
bentob0xAnybody knows why does the DCOP server need access to my KWallet?08:23
stfstefan@stefan:~$ ls -lh /usr/bin/x-www-browser08:23
stflrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 2008-02-12 11:43 /usr/bin/x-www-browser -> /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser08:23
stfstefan@stefan:~$ ls -lh /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser08:23
stflrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 2008-02-12 11:43 /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser -> /usr/bin/konqueror08:23
stfAgent_bob: ^08:23
stfbentob0x: normally it shouldn't.08:24
Agent_bobreadlink -f /usr/bin/x-www-browser would have been much cleaner.   but ok.   that's not the problem08:24
Agent_bobstf i don't know then.  i'd probably look around in mime types in knoq  but that's probably going to be futile.08:25
stfAgent_bob: got it fixed08:25
Agent_bobit was ?08:25
stfAgent_bob: that's right, the html mimetype was bound to the kde4 konqueror with priority over the kde3 one for some reason. and the kde4 one was silently failing08:26
stfthanks :)08:26
Agent_bobk   welcome.08:26
Agent_bobeven a blind hog finds an acorn every now and then08:26
stfwhoa. that's deep.08:27
bentob0xk thx stf08:27
Agent_bobyeah,  i'm so deep i'm stuck.08:29
beenerturned out to be my eithernet cord was messed up08:30
Agent_bobthat's what you get for using that M$ software on it....  :))))08:30
beenerwhat should i do about the wireless though i heard useing ndiswrapper would be more stable then useing the bcm43xx08:31
apparleAgent_bob: If I get the lists from a person having ubuntu instead of kubuntu, will it do ?08:31
Agent_bobi don't have anything wireless to test with.  so i'm ignorant about that08:31
Agent_bobapparle ubuntu is ubuntu is ubuntu....08:32
beenero well thanks any ways... does anyone here run wireless?08:32
Lynourebeener: about half of the people, if not more08:32
beenero well can any one help me out08:33
Agent_bobapparle but that doesn't mean that they will have the same packages alread installed that you will.   and therein may cause a missing dependancy08:33
apparleAgent_bob: I thought that I am getting only the addresses of the packages and not what is installed and what is not08:33
Agent_bobapparle uhh    what stage of the game are you at there ?    if making the packages.tgz   then yes.08:34
Agent_bobif getting the list from apt-zip   then no.08:35
Agent_bobso i'm unsure what your question was08:35
Agent_bob"the lists"  <<< not real discriptive.08:35
apparleAgent_bob: Its OK. I am not calling you names08:36
||arifaXi use aticonfig --swap-monitor every day. generally kicker does an exception crashes and restarts automatically. any ideas?08:36
Agent_bobapparle good by and good luck with it.08:38
Agent_bob||arifaX </shrugs>08:39
||arifaXAgent ??08:39
Agent_boblooking for a way to keep kicker from crashing ||arifaX ?08:41
apparleAgent_bob:thanks actually I know none with ubuntu near me08:42
beenerwhats more stable kubuntu or gnome as of right now? and how can you fix the instabilities of the update08:42
Agent_bobbeener probably ubuntu/gnome   but dont tell anybody in #kubuntu i said that.08:43
* Agent_bob ducks.08:43
beenerdamn...i really like kubuntu08:44
beeneryou know if there working on fixing the bugs that the update brought?08:44
Agent_bobi don't like gnome actually.  but i'm not going to lie about it.08:44
beeneror are we SOL08:44
Agent_bobi'm sure it's being worked on.  but there are several things that need fixed so it may take a little time.  i haven't heard anyone on the "team" mention it.08:45
||arifaXAgent_bob: I want to know what I can do to maybe post this as a bug08:45
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots08:46
blazinfirei need some help... i just got kubuntu 7.10 and i installed it. my connection is reconized. but for some reason the only application that will reconize my connection is the chat clients.08:47
||arifaXAgent_bob: is this also for kubuntu?08:47
Agent_bobstdin may know more (probably does) about it than i do.08:48
Agent_bob||arifaX yep08:48
Agent_bobi.e. "any of its derivatives,"  ^08:48
blazinfirei cant use konquer or anything else that uses the connection08:48
beenerare you wireless blazin?08:49
stdinbeener: which bug is that?08:49
beenerthen nvm08:49
Agent_bobblazinfire i've seen that before.  but i don't recall off hand the fix.   it's a common issue.08:49
beenerthe xorg08:49
stdinwhat about xorg?08:49
blazinfirewell i've done some research on it. and it seems to be a common issue. but i have yet found the fix for it08:50
beeneror at least when the xorg was int eh updates me and my friends computer just started fristing08:50
Agent_bobstdin the one that was in the last updates that has put several people in #ubuntu and #kubuntu whining about the update breaking everything.08:50
beeneror do you mean the modprob prblem?08:50
beener... there sorta togather (and it 4am so im trying to stay comprehensive, need to finish fixing this)08:51
beener@stdin so what is it you exacly askin?08:53
blazinfireis there any other forums or anything i should search on other than kubuntu and ubuntu's forums?08:53
blazinfireor does anyone know the fix in here for my prob?08:53
stdinbeener: I'm trying to ask exactly what the issue you have wit X is?08:54
beener@blazin no but it had happend to me wire my wireless was fristing08:54
beener@stdin not sure just the update had messd the wireless up. made it more unstable08:55
blazinfirewell for some reason it just seems my connection really isn't being reconized by anything. but i can use whatever KDE has in place of Pidgin08:55
blazinfirei dont remember the exact name of the app.08:55
stdinbeener: the update to xorg messed with wireless?08:55
stdinhow do you know they are connected?08:56
stdinthe update and the issues I mean08:56
beenerim not just my friend also have had conection problem after that one update08:56
beenerone cant conect to nothing08:56
blazinfireyea thats right.08:57
stdinxorg doesn't have anything to do with wireless, or any networking, I can't see a possible connection08:57
blazinfireoh another thing that might be leading to the same situation. i cant even add any programs with the program manager.08:58
beenerim not saying that it is that im just saything the update that had the xorg in it is when things went bad08:58
blazinfirei really think it revolves directly with v 7.10 cuz the previous version of ubuntu and kubuntu was fine08:59
beener@ blazin what does it say?08:59
beener@ blazin does it give you a comit error?08:59
blazinfiregive me a sec. i'm tryin to remember what it said. i'm in windows atm09:00
beener@stdin im fairly new at this though i am learning. so im not realy sure of what would be causeing things and how to trouble shoot them correctly09:00
Agent_bobwell blazinfire google hates me.  i was looking for a post about the network issue you described    i have seen it in here several times  but don't recall what the actual problem is, unless it's a dns server issue.09:01
beener@stdin the main thing i want is to be able to conect to the internet wirelessly. and to be stable instead of takeing more then 30 min to conect and work right09:02
Agent_bobseems that maybe it's something about the   /etc/resolv.conf file.09:02
stdinbeener: the last time I had an update to xorg was 2008-01-27 to version 2:
blazinfirei dont remember the error. i thought i had it wrote down09:02
beener@stdin yea thats when things started to go array09:02
Agent_bobblazinfire check your dns nameserver ip and when in linux check /etc/resolv.conf   for the same info.   i think that's where your problem may be.09:03
blazinfirewell i've checked everything i could think of on my side of my connection and everything checks fine09:03
Agent_bobblazinfire and is the linux box behind a gateway ?09:04
beener@stdin im not saying that it was xorg just after that whole update every thing went array such as the icon on the status bar apearing on the top left corner and the kicker crashing more often and also some apps dont open on the first click09:04
Agent_bobok. then router ?09:05
beener@stdin not to mension the even more instability in the wireless.  but i can deal with the others i just need to be wireless09:05
blazinfireoh wait. sry. yea it behind a gateway09:05
blazinfire4 a.m. lol09:05
Agent_bobok.  then you may also need a    route add default <ip of the gateway>     command to get you cookin' wif gas.09:06
blazinfireahhh. i also was trying to connect to a direct ip address (still doesn't let me connect)09:06
Agent_bobblazinfire your last post sounds more like a routing issue.    i don't know how knetwork manager handels that sort of thing,   but the route command is simple enough.09:10
beener @stdin i cant figure out why the bcm43xx is so unstable but it is. so i was told from someone to try ndiswrapper.09:10
pete_Hello,is there anyway i can upgrade to 7.10 without having to reinstall09:10
beenerpakeg manager09:10
Agent_bobpete_ from ?09:11
Agent_bobto 7.10  from ?.??09:11
Agent_bobummm it's not reccomended09:11
pete_if i run cat /etc/issue its 6.0609:11
pete_ok so can i reinstall using the new live cd and keep all my software and files09:12
Agent_bobdistupgrade is made for one relase at a time.  so that would be a 3 step upgrade.09:12
pete_its used as a server so i need to keep09:12
pete_i see09:12
beener@stdin now ndiswrapper give me this | FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/misc/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko': No such file or directory09:13
pete_i installed ubuntu 7.10 on ps3 which is pretty cool!09:13
Agent_bobpete_ you can keep anything in /home if it's a seperate file system   other wise it's not recommended to install over an earler version without reformating09:13
pete_well ill jsut back it all up to a gb09:13
pete_im pretty new to linux, only been using it about 2 mounths09:14
pete_got Pissed of with windows lol!09:14
pete_Any tips for me when using linux?09:15
stdinbeener: make sure you have linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-generic installed then09:15
Agent_bobtar --one-file-system -czf backup_name_and_location.tgz /       where "backup_name_and_location.tgz"  would be on another filesystem.   makes a good backup09:16
pete_im quite young to do all this stuff so might need extra help :)09:16
stdinbeener: however you want, in a package manager or with "dpkg -l | grep linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-generic"09:17
Agent_bobactually withoug the z in -czf   and called *.tar  is faster.  not compressed.09:17
pete_ok cool09:17
pete_can we do private chat?09:17
Agent_bobif you are registered you can.  i'm not so i can't.09:17
pete_ahh ok im not registered09:17
pete_so do you know anything to do with WINE09:18
pete_as i have loads of school apps i need to run on my laptop aswell09:18
beenerii  linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-generic     2.6.22-14.37                         Ubuntu supplied Linux modules for version 209:18
Agent_bobtoo much wine and you'll wake up with headache09:18
pete_yeh well, hehe09:18
nevillepete_ Have a look at #winehq , and http://www.winehq.org09:18
pete_aperntly its software to run microsoft software09:18
nevilleThe application database would no doubt be what you are after09:19
Agent_bobwine is wine is not an emulator09:19
ubotuThe Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org09:19
stdinbeener: then you need to reinstall it, "sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-generic"09:19
pete_I tryed getting my network maneger to install Linux on all the school computers and server:) But he said NO:(09:20
beenerthisll fix it right09:20
Agent_bobpete_ yeah typical.09:20
pete_just because he dont know how to use it09:20
pete_well and most of the 900 other students09:20
stdinbeener: it'll reinstall the kernel module and let ndiswrapper work09:21
Agent_bobpete_ yep.09:21
jussi01!ot | pete_09:21
ubotupete_: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!09:21
pete_were the hell is that?09:21
beenerits dun so i should rerun modprobe and it should run right, right09:21
Agent_bobjussi01 where you been all day?09:21
jussi01Agent_bob: sleeping :)09:21
stdinbeener: should09:22
Agent_bobwell gat it's your turn.09:22
Agent_bob@jussi01 ^09:22
beenerYOUR A SAVIOR09:22
Agent_bobsheesh.   s/gat/tag/g09:22
beenerer... i dont rember the comand to alow it to start automaticly09:22
Agent_bobi'm not lysdexic thank you i as am.09:23
Agent_bobgood night everybody.09:23
beenerthanks for the help before09:23
beenertake care09:24
jussi01night Agent_bob09:24
stdinbeener: sudo ndiswrapper -m09:24
beener er... more errors09:25
stdin* then "echo ndiswrapper |sudo tee -a /etc/modules"09:25
pete_anyone know anything about smaba and nertworking?09:26
jussi01pete_: some, what do you need to know?09:26
pete_ok well, i installed ubuntu on my ps3 and have a media server in myroom, which has all my music stored on. i want to be able to accsess it from my ps309:27
beenererror >;you should delete that at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper-1.9 line 790, <MODPROBE> line 388.  module configuration contains directive install pci:v000014E4d00004324sv*sd*bc*sc*i* /sbin/modprobe ndiswrapper09:27
jussi01!samba > pete_09:27
beenercould that be because i have already dun that ?09:27
pete_ok i sudo apt-get install samba and it working09:28
pete_but i need to change the workgroup? in the smb.conf file09:28
beenerby dun that i mean the ndiswrapper -m (not knowing what is did)09:29
blackflag-at-worhello all :)09:30
blackflag-at-worI want to have to sreens  with a mastrox G400 dualhead09:31
blackflag-at-worbut I only have 1 Monitor that is riunning09:31
blackflag-at-worcan someone help 2 get 2 monitors running?09:32
blackflag-at-worII configure over systems settings  but its not running09:32
jussi01!dualhead | blackflag-at-wor09:33
ubotublackflag-at-wor: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama09:33
c1|freakyis there any good tool for posting to blogs for kde/kubuntu?09:38
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jussi01!info wordpress | c1|freaky09:42
ubotuc1|freaky: wordpress (source: wordpress): an award winning weblog manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.2-1ubuntu1.3 (gutsy), package size 783 kB, installed size 4200 kB09:42
c1|freakyi mean09:42
c1|freakya gui tool for posting to blogs, sorry09:42
blazinfirehey you all09:44
blazinfirei fixed the prob09:44
blazinfirewith me not running a network. some how i disabled the network manager and everything works fine09:44
blazinfireand with the update software i guess. for some reason it wants me to update to kubuntu 7.10. i installed 7.10 ? any answers09:45
||arifaXc1|freaky: and the package is called wordpress?09:45
c1|freakyi mean a tool for posting to wordpress/drupal etc.09:45
||arifaXc1|freaky: whats the name?09:45
||arifaXneed that09:46
c1|freakyim looking for one09:46
prince_jammysc1|freaky: i just did "apt-cache search blog" and several showed up09:47
prince_jammysc1|freaky: kicker-kblogger - KDE applet to post weblog entries09:48
c1|freakythanks ;D09:50
c1|freakyim trying some kde4 tool ;D09:50
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blackflag-at-worahh thanks!!09:54
ubotuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead09:56
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jussi01!hi | ziyue10:10
ubotuziyue: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!10:10
ziyuehi,jussi01 and ubotu~10:11
jussi01!bot | ziyue10:11
ubotuziyue: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots10:11
jussi01ziyue: how can we help today?10:12
ziyuedoes anybody know if there is a vim GUI for KDE?10:12
Alohaziyue, there is a vim gui for gnome ;_10:13
ziyueyes,i installed it on kububtu,it does not work10:13
ziyuebut thx anyways,Aloha10:14
sebastian^good morning folks10:14
SlimeyPeteziyue: doesn't work? Odd. It works for me.10:15
Alohaziyue, http://www.yzis.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page10:16
ziyuei mean it i could not find the GUI of vim on my kubuntu10:17
ziyuecool~Aloha,that seems to be what I need10:18
Alohaziyue, np10:19
ziyuehave you tried KDE4,Aloha?10:20
Alohaziyue, nope. i use xfce actually heh10:20
Alohaim downloading kbuntu-desktop right now10:20
ziyueactually,I am a newbie for linux10:21
Alohai've been using linux since 9710:21
prince_jammysget ready for the great kubuntu :)10:21
prince_jammyshave you used it before?10:21
ziyueI have to use Intel fortran compiler for my project,so installed linux10:22
Alohayeah, not extensively though10:22
Alohaziyue, people still program in fortran?10:22
ziyuewell,i didn't hear about linux at that time10:22
prince_jammysAloha: i recommend "yakuake" once you have it10:22
ziyueyes,science still use it10:22
prince_jammysi recommend it to everyone10:22
Alohaprince_jammys, what is it?10:22
AlohaPriceChild, oh its that terminal, yeah?10:23
prince_jammysAloha: term emulator10:23
AlohaPriceChild, i tried it in xfce was kinda rough heh i'll try it in kde10:23
prince_jammysAloha: actually just uses KDE's konsole, but stays out of the way until you hit F1210:23
* Aloha is not used to things flying in from the top of the screen10:23
prince_jammysAloha: insta term is what it is10:24
prince_jammysAloha: ah, so you know it10:24
Alohakde apps are pretty good10:24
Alohai'm a fan of konqueror, just because i liek KHTML over gecko10:25
prince_jammysAloha: love konqueror10:25
Alohafirefox is good but it has some memoy issues10:25
prince_jammysAloha: konq can do so much10:26
prince_jammysAloha: also firefox acts funny sometimes in KDE10:26
Alohaprince_jammys, what do you mena by "do"?10:26
prince_jammysAloha: oh, you know, open terminals, read man pages, read info pages, preview files, etc10:26
Alohaprince_jammys, nice10:27
prince_jammysAloha: just man: command and you get man pages in html, nicely formatted10:27
Alohaprince brb just finished downloading kubuntu-desktop gonna restart in it10:28
prince_jammysAloha: but now for some reason they're making dolphin the default file browser, which i change right away10:28
prince_jammysok see ya10:28
ziyuei have to go back to my work,see you later,Aloha10:28
ziyuesee you later,everybody10:29
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Alohaprince_jammys: back10:30
Alohanot too bad10:31
Alohavirtual keyboard10:33
Alohaprince_jammys: what email client do you use?10:33
prince_jammysAloha: kmail10:34
prince_jammysAloha: i use mostly kde stuff -- good stuff once you get used to it10:35
Alohaprince_jammys: i'm used to thunderbird heh10:35
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prince_jammysAloha: yeah i used to use that -- very similar, just themed differently10:36
prince_jammysthey're almost the same, other than appearance, as far as the use i give it10:37
Alohai'm loading it right now10:38
Alohai'm chatting in konqueror10:38
Ginungaggapgood morning10:41
prince_jammysAloha: i didn't know you could do that10:41
Ginungaggapdoes anybody know how to make ubuntu shut down, when I press the poweroff-button on my casis?10:41
AyabaraAnyone with a "Intel® Next-Gen Wireless-N Mini-PCI Card". I have one on my XPS M1530, and it's not all ok..10:42
Alohaprince_jammys: i mean konversation... sorry everything starts with a "K" heh10:47
prince_jammysAloha: yeah the K thing is really overkill10:49
prince_jammysthough it makes identifying kde apps easy10:50
Alohaprince_jammys: yeah its pretty nice. where is the "about kde" app?10:51
Divilinuxhi all..anyone can give me the plasmarc txt please?10:53
prince_jammysAloha: everywhere in "Help"10:53
Alohaprince_jammys: thnx!10:54
Alohaprince_jammys: what IM client do you run? kopete?10:54
prince_jammysAloha: try in konqueror for example "man: grep"10:54
prince_jammysAloha: i don't use one10:55
prince_jammyskde's is kopete10:55
prince_jammyswhich shockingly also begins with a k10:55
Alohaprince_jammys: man grep doesn't show anything?!10:56
prince_jammysman: grep with a colon10:56
prince_jammysor just man: if you want a menu of everything10:56
Alohaprince_jammys: gotcha10:56
Alohaprince_jammys: No man page matching to grep found.10:57
prince_jammysthe renegade kde app is gwenview, which amazingly begins with a "g" of all letters10:57
prince_jammysnow that's a problem10:57
prince_jammysdoes it work in  a term?10:57
prince_jammysi didn't install anything to make it do that10:58
Alohaprince_jammys: did you install kubuntu cd?10:58
prince_jammysAloha: no, i installed it after having gnome10:59
Alohaprince_jammys: me too.... hrm thats why i asked10:59
* Aloha shrugs10:59
prince_jammysAloha: maybe if you go to the main menu and "help" and then index man pages from there10:59
prince_jammysthey're all viewable there also, or should be10:59
Alohaprince_jammys: main menu?11:00
prince_jammysif you do a lot of manning, like me, it's very handy11:00
prince_jammysthe big K on the lower left11:00
Alohaoh KDE menu11:00
prince_jammysAloha: K-Menu->Help->Search Options tab on the left ->"Build Search Index"11:01
Alohaprince_jammys: building11:02
prince_jammysAloha: kate is also a great little text editor, especially if you write scripts11:03
Alohaprince_jammys: what about wring code?11:03
prince_jammysdon't know11:03
prince_jammysi use it for perl,php,bash11:03
erik__how do I work with my wireless settings in kubuntu with kde4? i had it in kde3 but now I cannot find it11:03
Alohaprince_jammys: i'm a ruby programmer11:04
prince_jammysAloha: i'd be surprised if it didn't highlight ruby syntax11:04
user-landHi, is there a disadvantage from installing Kubuntu 64bit version ?11:04
Alohaprince_jammys: cool11:04
prince_jammyscomes with it's own terminal tab so you can run your stuff as you edit11:05
SlimeyPeteuser-land: you have to fiddle around a bit to make Flash work, apparently.11:05
SlimeyPeteotherwise no, not really11:05
user-landare you running it, slimeypete ?11:05
Alohaprince_jammys: when i buld man i get htdig failed11:06
SlimeyPeteuser-land: I run it on my desktop. I haven't tried installing Flash but everything else seems to work.11:06
prince_jammysAloha: i have no idea what that's about11:06
user-landgreat, slimeypit, so is it faster then ?11:07
Alohaoh well11:07
SlimeyPeteuser-land: not sigificantly. A little.11:07
SlimeyPeteAloha: make sure you have htdig installed?11:07
user-landthank you :-)11:07
AlohaSlimeyPete: oh that would help ;)11:08
prince_jammysAloha: apparently you're not the only with this problem, according to google11:08
Alohai like the terminal program yakaouko or whatever11:09
prince_jammysAloha: yeah it's super handy11:09
Alohakde is cool. first time i've used it in a few versions11:10
prince_jammyssuch a charming name too11:10
Alohayeah kate has ruby highlighting11:10
Alohawoo build index is working now11:12
AlohaSlimeyPete: thnx11:12
prince_jammysAloha: kate is good for script editing (select+ Ctrl -D -- comment out, Ctrl-I indent --plus shift uncomments, unindents)11:12
prince_jammyslots of useful stuff11:12
hmmyehanyone with some rtl8169 tips for ubuntu? gigabit.... i get good speed on downloads from the ubuntu pc to a xp pc, but uploading from xp > linux seems as slow as 10mbit :S11:13
SaeidZebardasthow to upgrade kubuntu 7.10 to 8.04 ?11:13
AlohaSaeidZebardast: i would wait until hardy is released11:15
SaeidZebardastI want to upgrade 8.04 alpha11:15
SaeidZebardastAloha: ^11:16
alromaithithen update11:16
giovanni_hhi guys11:16
giovanni_hwhich kernel should I use? the -386 or the -generic? I have a pentium IV11:16
AlohaSaeidZebardast: update manager11:17
SaeidZebardastAloha: update-manager -d ?11:17
AlohaSaeidZebardast: system menu11:17
erik__where's the network manager in kde4? in network settings the top tab i missing compared to kde3..11:17
SaeidZebardastAloha: Thanks11:18
Alohais google toolbar available for konqueror?11:18
AlohaSaeidZebardast: np11:18
Alohaprince_jammys: welcome back11:19
prince_jammysAloha: thx - it's my first time using Konversation - wanted to see if it minimized to tray when you close the window11:21
prince_jammysAloha: and it didn't11:21
Alohaprince_jammys: heh, thats one way to find out11:21
Alohafound another non-K kde app Akregator11:24
erik__has anyone tried to configure wireless for kde4?11:24
Alohaerik__: i use wicd11:25
erik__Aloha: thanks, I'll check it out.. not in apt right?11:25
_Angelus_i changed to kubuntu 64bit11:26
_Angelus_im using kde4.0.111:26
Alohaerik__: its the best wireless manager all round IMHO11:26
_Angelus_an i dont have power saving features11:26
_Angelus_like suspend to ram..11:26
Aloha_Angelus_: KDE 4 support in #kubuntu-kde411:26
_Angelus_Aloha:  i think its more powersaving support then kde4...11:27
_Angelus_but anyways11:27
Alohaprince_jammys: OOOOOOHHHH!! i was doing man: grep... not man:grep it works now11:29
prince_jammysAloha: pretty nice feature11:29
Alohaprince_jammys: for sure!11:29
prince_jammysAloha: you can also stick a terminal button on the bar if you want, and be able to open a terminal as you browse through files11:30
hmmyehgot rtl8169 nic, slow upload speed from xp to linux, but awesome speed from linux to xp11:31
hmmyehany tips?11:31
prince_jammysAloha: the terminal gets opened in whatever directory you're looking at11:31
prince_jammysAloha: basically, features galore11:31
prince_jammysbut useful ones11:31
Alohaanyone know if google toolbar works with konqueror?11:33
Alohaall my bookmarks are stored there11:33
prince_jammysAloha: don't know, but konqueror can probably import them11:33
Alohaprince_jammys: google exports bookmarks as one big html file heh11:34
prince_jammysAloha: yeah konq and firefox do that too11:34
prince_jammysAloha: i like it because you have a webpage of bookmarks, instead of a menu11:35
prince_jammysAloha: both, actually11:35
Alohaprince_jammys: how do you change kde themes?11:39
psi_morning all11:44
psi_another wonderflly warm day in feb11:44
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prince_jammysAloha: "kcontrol" in KMenu11:46
Alohaprince_jammys: don't see it11:47
prince_jammysAloha: System-settings?11:47
Alohaprince_jammys: oh.. that one11:47
Alohaprince_jammys: thnx11:47
prince_jammysAloha: kcontrol is better by the way ... i think they started packaging kde with "system-settings" in an effort to make it have FEWER features .. i recommend installing "kcontrol" to have access to all kinds of settings11:49
Alohaprince_jammys: ok thnx11:49
Alohakde is pretty11:50
Tm_Tprince_jammys: no fewer features, but to be more clear, also kcontrol doesn11:50
prince_jammysAloha: apparently one criticism of KDE is that it's TOO configurable -- hence the switch to "system-settings". i don't think KDE should pay attention to those criticisms11:50
Tm_T't have maintainer11:50
prince_jammysTm_T ah11:51
Alohaprince_jammys: you can never have too much control over your computer11:51
Tm_Tprince_jammys: Kcontrol is and apparently will stay as unmaintained relic, good one, but still...11:51
prince_jammyswell, you can search for the setting you want in kcontrol just by typing it ... havent used system-settings in a while but i don't remember it having that11:51
prince_jammysie.. you have to rifle through all the menus, right?11:52
Tm_Tshould have search11:52
prince_jammyscan you change system services .. that kind of stuff?11:52
Tm_Tremind you, I'm no systemsettings user, Kcontrol <311:53
prince_jammysoh well i take it back then ... maybe i didn't check it out thoroughly11:53
prince_jammysi just noticed the KDE switch to default apps like dolphin, that seem to have fewer settings than the older ones like konq11:54
Tm_Tprince_jammys: Kubuntu, not KDE11:55
kaanhi can anyone help me with adept manager?11:55
prince_jammysTm_T oh, Kubuntu only?11:55
prince_jammysTm_T do you know why the switch to dolphin? to me it just seems worse11:56
Tm_Tprince_jammys: well other distros too, but not KDE itself11:56
Tm_Tprince_jammys: "easier for the new users, not drowning with features"11:56
kaanit says adept manager's being used by another program and can only start in read-only mode... but i just restarted the computer.... and it still doesn't work11:56
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »11:57
Tm_Tkaan: ^^11:57
prince_jammysTm_T yeah, see i like drowning in features :) so long as they're useful, which in konq, they are11:57
prince_jammysfewer features starts to remind me of that other OS11:58
kaanok trying11:59
kaanoh sweet11:59
kaanthank you11:59
kaana newbie question11:59
Alohai like kmail better than thunderbird11:59
kaanwhat does sudo do?11:59
Tm_T!sudo | kaan11:59
ubotukaan: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.12:00
Alohakaan: SUperuerDO12:00
prince_jammyskaan: makes you superuser for just a single command12:00
kaanah gotcha thanks guys! Adept manager runs now!12:00
kaminixhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/scim/+bug/34282 Is this bug abandoned?12:00
Alohabug #3428212:00
Alohablah stupid bot12:01
Tm_TAloha: is not ;(12:01
AlohaTm_T: heh ;)12:01
kaminix!bug 3428212:01
kaminixNope. :p12:01
kaminixWould be nice to be able to write some Japanese in Skype aswell. :p12:02
lousygaruan00b alert, what is this katapult app launcher thing and how do i change its shortcut key?12:02
kaminixOr Parley... :)12:03
Tm_T!katapult | lousygarua12:03
ubotulousygarua: katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.12:03
prince_jammyslousygarua: katapult is like Alt-F2, sort of12:03
prince_jammysok sorry i'm new to irc i have to try this. ....12:03
kaminixI never quite understood the point with Katapult when we have alt+f2 though.12:03
prince_jammys!ls | prince_jammys12:03
prince_jammysok i got a warning12:04
Tm_Tkaminix: "intelligent"12:04
lousygaruaprince_jammys: Tm_T: what if i have Alt+Space mapped to a different function?12:04
kaminixTm_T: Intelligent how?12:04
prince_jammyswhat is this ! thing?12:04
Tm_Tlousygarua: sorry, I don't use katapult12:04
Tm_Tprince_jammys: control sign for our bot12:04
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots12:04
Tm_Tkaminix: open katapult and write "web"12:05
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal12:05
kaminixIs there any way to redirect alt + space to alt + F2? Making them do the same thing that is.12:05
prince_jammysvery nice12:05
lousygaruakaminix: i'm looking for a way12:06
kaminixThanks lousygarua :)12:06
lousygaruakaminix: i've finally installed kubuntu-desktop on my laptop and started playing around with it :)12:06
lousygaruaso... professional.12:06
Alohalousygarua: i just installed.. i _really_ like it12:07
kaminixbug 3428212:07
kaminixGo bot!12:07
lousygaruaAloha: GNOME aims more at simplicity and KDE for being hardcore user I think12:07
Tm_Tkaminix: try in query12:07
Tm_Tlousygarua: no12:07
lousygaruaI mean, my grandma would use GNOME rather than KDE :)12:07
Alohalousygarua: its really intuitive i think12:08
Alohalousygarua: kde i mean12:08
Alohalousygarua: i just started using it and everything is really natural12:08
Tm_Tlousygarua: KDE and GNOME are both for beginners and old timers, it's just matter of different approach12:08
lousygaruaTm_T: yeah i agree12:08
nevilleKDE :D :D :D12:08
kaminixI like KDE better than Gnome in pretty much all aspects, except that the systray messages in Gnome are better looking.12:08
kaminixThere we go, now alt + space and alt + f2 does the same thing ^^12:11
prince_jammyskaminix: open katapult with alt-space, then do control-c12:11
kaminixJust unistalled katapult in favor of alt + f212:11
prince_jammyskaminix: it should send it to the tray, where you can right click and change config12:11
prince_jammyskaminix: well, control c works but i don12:12
prince_jammys't see where to change shortcut12:12
Alohaalt+f2 seems way quicker and more versitile12:13
kaminixThink you misunderstood me. I removed Katapult, then went into keyboard shortcuts and made alt + space an alternative to alt + f2 :)12:13
prince_jammysaloha: yeah i use alt+f2 -- only bad part is it doesnt autocomplete12:14
kaminixAutocomplete in alt + f2 would be gold.12:14
prince_jammyskaminix: gotcha, sorry12:14
prince_jammyskaminix: gnome has it12:14
Alohaprince_jammys: single program commands arn't bad though. like "firefox" or "kmail"12:14
prince_jammysAloha: oh yeah, it's not a big deal12:14
kaminixWell, time to do some school work. :/ KWord here I come! Atleast there's some pleasure in doing the work... :p12:15
kaanwhich plug-in/codec should i install to watch mpg/avi files?12:15
prince_jammysAloha: i usually just do it in yakuake anyway12:15
Alohaprince_jammys: f12 ftw12:15
Alohaprince_jammys: thats really growing on me12:15
Alohaprince_jammys: you ever use fish shell?12:16
prince_jammysAloha: whenever i use any other computer i just keep banging f12 expecting yak12:16
prince_jammysAloha: no12:16
Alohaprince_jammys: its pretty cool does a lot of stuff like bash but better12:16
lousygaruakaminix: for changing the alt+space thing, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11091812:16
kaanwhich codec is good?12:17
prince_jammysAloha: it's like a user friendly shell, right?12:17
Alohaprince_jammys: yeah12:17
Alohaprince_jammys: http://www.fishshell.org/ its my default shell12:17
prince_jammysAloha: yeah i've been to that site12:17
Alohaprince_jammys: cool12:17
Alohahow do you change from gdm to kdm?12:20
prince_jammysAloha: that i don't know ... i still use gdm12:20
prince_jammysAloha: system-settings, i would guess12:20
Alohaprince_jammys: just found it ;)12:21
spirooI am curious, does anybody here has an Amarok 2 which can add music to playlist/collection? And no this is not a bug report ;)12:23
prince_jammysAloha: other stuff that's worth checking out: kdevelop (for writing software) -- kivio (easy way to make flowcharts) -- kommander (for making guis)12:24
Alohaprince_jammys: thnx12:24
prince_jammyseverything k12:24
Alohaprince_jammys: haha12:24
prince_jammysstuff is good12:25
Alohai think kde is the future of linux... gnome is too stagnant12:26
arcticpenguin380does everyone know what linus said about gnome?12:26
Alohaarcticpenguin380: what does he say?12:26
spirooAloha: So do I ;)12:26
prince_jammysAloha: one would think, but ubuntu is mostly gnome12:27
Alohaprince_jammys: for now it is... it will probably change :)12:27
prince_jammysAloha: kde  better not become the betamax of linux12:27
Alohakde has way better integration12:27
_rubensince i restored my gpg settings from an old pc, i know have a problem in kmail that kmail totally freezes when i click on an email which has any kind of cryptography in it12:27
_rubenand for some reason i cant select my key in the identity config window12:28
tzangergood morning12:28
tzangeris anyone else's kopete crashing out with SEGV this morning when connecting to MSN?12:28
Alohahaha gnome devlopers aruging with linus about how to use linux12:30
Alohahe freaking invented linux12:30
hydrogenand so?12:30
ForgeAusomg that article is SO right about gnome12:30
ForgeAusin the first few lines12:31
hydrogenLinus has always felt the need to start trouble and give out his opinion in inflamatory ways12:31
arcticpenguin380a few days ago he called HFS+ "utter crap"12:31
hydrogenit's only "news" because he's linus12:32
hydrogennothing to see there, move along12:32
spirooDoes someone know if you can open and edit .docx files in either open office or koffice?12:32
arcticpenguin380i wonder what will happen to linux when linus dies or retires.12:33
Alohahydrogen: _only_? i take his opinion in very high regard.12:33
arcticpenguin380i bet AM will take over12:34
hydrogenAloha: thats cool, that doesn't mean that a) it's correct or b) anyone else does12:34
hydrogenthis channel is about support for kubuntu12:34
hydrogennot the latest thing linus said12:34
hydrogenplease take it to #kubuntu-offtopic12:34
Alohahydrogen: that article is half about kde, therefore on topic12:34
Alohadon't be a hater12:34
hydrogenit's not on topic12:35
hydrogenthe topic is support for kubuntu12:35
Alohayour last 11 line entries didn't have anything to do with kubuntu support except for the one that said this channel's topic is about that12:36
hydrogenthat's alright12:37
spiroo.docx files?12:37
hydrogenI can blame you for that12:37
kaminixspiroo: I think .docx is for the latest Microsoft Office, you'll most likely have a hard time using those.12:37
hydrogenI don't particularly see what your problem is.  You are clearly off topic for this channel, just accept it and move the discussion to a more appropriate venue (I'm sure theres a digg story about it!).  Theres no need to clutter this channel with that sillyness12:38
hydrogenI think openoffice supports it12:38
_BlueCro_hello. does any of you know why kopete crashes every time when i want to log in?12:44
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flipstarhi i want to buy an s-ata controller card..can you recommend some for *ubuntu or are there working all ?12:46
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Briareoswhat is changing my menu.lst? I've setup my pc via a disk image where the "root"-entry of the menu.lst was set to hd(0,2). But on the system it is hd(0,0). So i changed that. problem is that after updates via adept this is suddenly reset to hd(0,2) again. can you provide a hint?12:51
Dr_WillisBriareos, How did you change it?12:51
Dr_Willisthe menu.lst file has a line like  #groot(somthing) I think.. thats where it reads it from every time update-grub is ran12:52
Dr_WillisYou dont just change the auto-generated menu items12:52
rodolfoen español?12:52
Dr_Willis## default grub root device12:52
Dr_Willis # groot=(hd0,2)12:52
tzangeris anyone else's kopete crashing out with SEGV this morning when connecting to MSN?12:52
Dr_Willis!es | rodolfo12:53
uboturodolfo: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.12:53
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tzdi need help with my mouse settings or perhaps windows settings please? The active window is now controlled by where my mouse pointer are.13:10
Dr_Willistzd,  thats often called 'x-mouse' or.. somthing else.... :) heh - i forget what...13:13
Dr_WillisNot sure where kde keeps that setting.13:14
Dr_Willisit used to be  real common with some window managers ages ago.13:14
tzdDr_Willis: ok... i'll have a look.. don't know how or when i activated this setting but hopefully I'll find it ;) Thanks13:14
Dr_Willisnight all13:17
tzdyaay found it. It was called "focus"13:17
BluesKajHowdy Folks  : )13:32
ForgeAushey Blues n flipstar ...13:39
ForgeAusa little late13:39
BluesKajhi ForgeAus13:40
BluesKajit's morning here ...I imagine it's pretty late in Oz13:41
BriareosDr_Willis isn't that commented out?13:47
Briareosor is a single '#' in the menu.lst not a comment? it never changed that from # groot=(hd0,2) to # groot=(hd0,0) ... so it could be the solution13:49
default_hi.  question.  Is there a way to save windows positions with Dolphin?13:49
flipstarBriareos: no # dont have to be a commend, grub parse these lines also13:50
nosrednaekimwindows positions13:50
Briareosflipstar thx13:50
arcticpenguin380is it possible to get tracker running in kubuntui13:50
default_windows positions as in when I close a kde or dolphin window it opens next time at the position I last closed it at13:51
BriareosDr_Willis thanks for your help. I am sorry I gotta leave to a meeting now, so I cannot stay until your response, but I am pretty sure that your suggestion is the solution13:51
prince_jammysarcticpenguin380: my guess is through system-settings (or kcontrol)->services, but i'm not sure.  there's also strigi, kde's tracker13:51
niallif you download source using apt, how do you get rid of it?13:54
ForgeAusif you donwload anything with apt its generally a .deb package13:55
default_niall: maybe manuallly?  no expert answer from me.13:55
ForgeAusI don't know much about if there are or not source .deb's but you can simply delete the .deb file13:55
ForgeAus(apt keeps a cache its probably easier to erase the cache using apt's commands)13:55
nosrednaekimniall➜ manually, since they are downloaded to wherever you are when you run the command13:56
default_is there any answer on KDE saving window's positions?13:56
arcticpenguin380do symbolic links to execituables a security risk13:56
ActionParsniphey all13:57
flipstardefault_: the window position should be saved by default..13:57
nosrednaekimdefault_➜ yes, right click on a window's titel bar and select widow preferences or something like that, and then mess arund with the settings, it in there somewhere13:57
default_ok will look.  thx.  trying now.13:58
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MartinCleaverHi - I have booted the amd64bit 7.1 live CD - and am in the process of wanting to install14:03
jpatrickhi MartinCleaver14:04
MartinCleaverI have one 500gb disk on the drive, it hosts Centos 5.1, and a lot of content I need to keep14:04
MartinCleaverHi jpatrick14:04
default_I made a "window specific setting" that saves the windows positions is this proper for making KDE save windows positions/size?14:04
MartinCleaverIn Step 4, it asks Guided vs. Manual14:04
jpatrickMartinCleaver: do you not keep your files on a seperate partition?14:05
MartinCleaverMost of my files are on a NAS box, but I have a bunch of Virtual Machines that are on the local 500gb disk14:06
arcticpenguin380are symbolic links safe?14:06
MartinCleaverI did partition the 500gb14:06
jpatrickarcticpenguin380: yes14:06
prince_jammysarcticpenguin380: what do you mean safe?14:06
default_artic wouldn't the same user that makes a symbolic link be the same owner of the fiel being linked?  in general!14:07
* MartinCleaver runs qparted to look at the disk again14:07
default_like wouldn't links have ownership attributes as well?14:07
arcticpenguin380link to a program so it starts automaticly at start up14:07
MartinCleaverok, so sda1 ext3 100mb, sda2 465gb - unmounted. I *think* my virtual machines are on the sda214:08
flipstarsymlinks have no permissions14:08
MartinCleaverbut I'd need to mount sda2 to be sure14:08
MartinCleaverthey are managed using the LVM14:09
MartinCleaverI'd like to dual boot for now14:09
MartinCleaverso will Guided - use entire disk give me the option to dual boot?14:10
* MartinCleaver waits patiently14:13
default_oh well it's now remembering windows positions I left thm at.  In windows behaviour it's set to smart positioning and there's no open to individualise the position save.14:14
default_I must admit Kubuntu is much nicer than previous verisons, but it's not upto the level of going mainstream yet, as in user friendlyness.  Too much bash fixing needed for average joe.14:15
default_kde4 looks great.14:16
flipstarMartinCleaver: grub should automaticly detect a second os14:19
flipstari never used the guided one so i cant say anything about that14:19
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ActionParsnipdefault_, depends if you got harware from the HCL or not14:19
default_yep that's a point, then it's pretty much setup properly14:20
da_didiI justed downloaded and burned the kubunut latest desktop version and the "check cd media" complains about a broken package and the install fails.. known issue?14:20
ActionParsnipda_didi, did you md5 check the download before you burned?14:20
default_did you verify the burn Da-did?14:20
MartinCleaverso, flipstar, if I tell it to use the Entire DIsk, it won't mess with the Centos install?14:21
da_didiof course not :/14:21
ActionParsnipMartinCleaver, if you give the installer unpartitioned space then it will spot it and offer to use it for your Kubuntu install14:22
ActionParsnipda_didi, then there is your issue. Downloads are not 100% foolproof14:22
default_the installer is fantastic now. tHe onyl problem I have with it is that if you don't have fast internet then the packages still try to download at the speed with no way to stop without killing install.14:23
MartinCleaverok, so my disk has two partitions: qtparted can see 100mb /boot + 465gb unmounted14:23
MartinCleaverI have used the unmounted disk for sure14:23
MartinCleaverbut I don't know why the live cd has not mounted it14:23
da_didithe installer also shows some issue about PCI, api.. /var/log/messages also shows somethings with perl and api14:24
ActionParsnipMartinCleaver, mount it yourself :)14:24
default_I've got ADSL2 but if I go over limits in month, I get shaped to 56K and this is why it failed for me instlaling.  I had to remove the lan cable to make it skipt he process.14:24
da_didii will retry14:24
ActionParsnipda_didi, you could even use one off a Linux Format or whatnot14:24
default_martin try fusermount -u <mountdev>14:25
MartinCleaverroot@ubuntu:~# fusermount -u /dev/sda214:25
MartinCleaverumount: /dev/sda2: not mounted14:25
ActionParsnipMartinCleaver, are you logged in as root?14:25
MartinCleaverI 'sudo su' d14:26
flipstaryou have to give umount the mount directory not the device ..14:26
ActionParsnipMartinCleaver, are you on the live cd?14:26
da_didiyeah, the md5 sums don't match14:26
MartinCleaveryes, live DVD14:26
default_hehehhe da14:26
MartinCleaveramd 64bit14:26
ActionParsnipMartinCleaver, cool, just checkin. running stuff as root (specially web apps) is insane14:26
senorpedroi have a new creative zen pplayer and it doesnt mount under kubuntu. i tried the new mtp-tools and also kzenexchange, but no success. also in amarok there is no recognition of the player. is it even possible to use the new creative zen player (8gb) under linux?14:27
MartinCleaverok, thanks ActionParsnip14:27
ActionParsnipsenorpedro, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65768614:28
MartinCleaverso what mount command should I use?14:28
MartinCleaverI know when I am in Centos it says it is managed using LVM14:28
default_senorpedro do you know what protocol it uses over the usb?14:28
flipstarMartinCleaver:  sudo mkdir /media/sda2;sudo mount /dev/sda2 /media/sda214:29
flipstarwhere sda2 is your drive to mount14:29
senorpedrodefault_: no, i have no idea14:29
MartinCleavermount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'14:29
flipstarwhat filesystem is it ?14:30
default_senorpedro: if it's simply a storage access then it would be strange why it's not seeing it.  if it's another protocl then you ened to find out and give the ability for os to read it.14:30
MartinCleaverits whatever Centos installed, something like a "Linux Volume Manager" volume14:31
default_senorpedro: I'm not expert.14:31
ActionParsnipsenorpedro, if you dont mind having gnome libs installed you can use gnomad, it seems to work :(14:32
default_senorpedro:  http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22zen%22+%22creative%22+%22protocol%22+%22filesystem%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a14:32
ActionParsnipsenorpedro, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/creative-zen-touch-with-plays-for-sure-on-kubuntu-is...a-camera-518976/14:33
senorpedroActionParsnip: i also tried gnomad but no success14:34
MartinCleaveradept does not seem to know about LVM14:34
da_didimy kubuntu session is locked.. what is the default password?14:35
ceehi, i have an laptop(thinkpad z61m) that freezes often completely when i run heavy cpu tasks in matlab or other programs. there is nothing in the logs..14:36
ActionParsnipsenorpedro, id google dude. Im on it myself :)14:36
default_can someone recomend a smtp server and client please?  I want to run my own email server and readed it directly on desktop?  I used mail-enable/outlook before killing Vista.14:36
da_didi(okay, another session was open for passwd..)14:36
prince_jammysdefault_: client: kmail works14:37
MartinCleave1That machine just crashed :(14:37
martijncan i just install kubuntu on a imac?14:37
default_thx prince.14:37
ActionParsnipsenorpedro, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2007-May/016423.html14:38
prince_jammysdefault_: np, i believe it's packaged with kubuntu14:38
ActionParsnipmartijn, yeah but i think there are issues with wifi and you need ndiswrapper14:38
default_yep it's running.  checking out now, thx.14:39
ActionParsnipsenorpedro, http://www.larryni.me.uk/blog/2007/03/25/sync-creative-zen-vision-m-on-ubuntu/14:39
AbortDis it possible to run gimp under kde?14:39
senorpedroAbortD: yes14:39
ActionParsnipAbortD, absolutely :)14:39
martijnAbortD: yes it is, you just need to install some extra packages14:39
AbortDnice nice thats what i like to hear i havent used ubuntu or kub in a few years14:39
senorpedroAbortD: you can run _all_ linux programm under every Desktop14:39
ActionParsnipAbortD, sudo apt-get install gimp14:40
MartinCleave1I looked for lvm and kubuntu - the live DVD didn't seem to mention it in adept but googling had something14:40
martijnActionParsnip: i don' t use wifi anyways, so that' s cool14:40
default_alos another lamer questiion.  what directory is the one for placing linsk to auto start at boot?14:40
AbortDthats what i was thinking14:40
default_I want Kget to start up when system starts.14:40
AbortDi love kubuntu for super karamba14:40
ActionParsnipdefault_, ~/.kde/Aitostart14:40
AbortDbut i love most of the prgrams gnome has14:40
AbortDespecially gimp14:41
ActionParsnipAbort if you are running Kubuntu but want gnome apps yu install the gnome libs14:41
AbortDi did that last time14:41
ActionParsnipAbortD, some people will even dual boot to keep kde and gnome seperate14:41
AbortDand my linux was flooded with kde and gnome apps14:41
ActionParsnipAbortD, but its ok to mix (just takes more space)14:41
AbortDthats what i was thinking about14:41
AbortDbut i dont want my hard drive to have 4 partitions14:42
AbortDi have one for linux windows and a backup14:42
AbortDas it is14:42
AbortDi hear it slows the hard drive down14:42
ActionParsnipi just have Kubuntu14:42
ActionParsnipAbortD, nar it doesnt affect speed14:42
ActionParsnipAbortD, unless you start reading between partitions on the same drive14:43
ActionParsnipAbortD, then it does14:43
AbortDhm would 2 gigs be enough for gnome?14:43
AbortDreading between partitions?14:43
martijnnote that there also is krita instead of the gimp, i believe not that advanced but hey it is for kde14:43
AbortDgimp = god14:43
martijnActionParsnip: how would i partition my disk? can kubuntu partition the macos file system?14:44
MartinCleave1https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuFutureIdeas mentions LVM14:44
ActionParsnipAbortD, yeah so if you copy from Kubuntu to your backup partition on the same drive it will take longer than drive to a different physical drive14:45
ActionParsnipmartijn, not sure14:45
MartinCleave1 LVM (Logical volume management) tool. This would be a great "would be a great addition if kubuntu sets LVM by default on install."14:45
ActionParsnipmartijn, Ive never messed with mac. I think they are overpriced for my needs14:45
AbortDoh thats no problem14:45
Sbucatwell i have a problem with konversation when i click on a link it load konqueror for kde4 and then it crashes14:45
AbortDim going to make 2 gig or 3 gigs for gnome14:45
ruatahello room14:46
ActionParsnipSbucat, what is your default web browser14:46
martijnActionParsnip: they are, but i wanted some joy in my life14:46
SbucatActionParsnip: konqueror14:46
ActionParsnipmartijn, get an eee pc :)14:46
* MartinCleave1 has an eeepc14:46
AbortDand do my partition order as swap kde gnome windows backup14:46
default_senorpedro: did you see ; http://libnjb.sourceforge.net/14:46
ActionParsnipSbucat, run konversation from konsole and watch the output while it is running and you click a link14:46
MartinCleave1ok - back in 3014:47
SbucatActionParsnip: nice idea14:47
MartinCleave1thanks for all your help14:47
ActionParsnipnp dude14:47
AbortDoh one more question before i begin install14:47
senorpedrodefault_: thx, i'll try that too later14:47
AbortDi can partition with the installer right?14:47
AbortDif i remember right i could before14:47
AbortDalright thanks u all have fun14:47
SbucatoneActionParsnip: nothing it loads but then in konsole i have nothing14:48
SbucatoneSbucatone@ll:~$ konversation14:48
Sbucatoneand konversation is loaded14:48
ActionParsnipso click this14:49
ActionParsnipwhats it do?14:49
Sbucatonei can see icons jumping14:49
Sbucatonestill jumping14:49
Sbucatonenow nothing14:50
Sbucatoneit looks like is close itself14:50
ActionParsnipSbucatone, what does it say in konsole?14:50
SbucatoneActionParsnip: nothing14:51
Sbucatonebecause when i load konversation14:51
Sbucatoneit loads konversation and then i get this14:51
SbucatoneSbucatone@ll:~$ konversation14:51
Sbucatone[15:48] <Sbucatone> Sbucatone@ll:~$14:51
default_senorpedro: also try ; http://libmtp.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=compatibility14:51
ActionParsnipSbucatone, are you runing it with & or not?14:51
Sbucatonewhat do you mean ActionParsnip14:52
martijnActionParsnip: what is an eeepc?14:52
ActionParsnipat the end of your command do you put a '&'14:52
ActionParsnipmartijn, its a wonderful laptop, get googling14:52
SbucatoneSbucatone@ll:~$ konversation &14:53
Sbucatone[1] 2424814:53
martijnActionParsnip: what can go better than thinkpad T61?14:53
Sbucatoneok i get this14:53
SbucatoneSbucatone@ll:~$ konversation &14:53
Sbucatone[2] 2425114:53
Sbucatone[1]   Done                    konversation14:53
ActionParsnipmartijn, pretty much anything from www.voodoopc.com14:53
default_does ntfs-3g have a 'noauto' option?14:53
aharoonhi iwas trying to stop compiz fusion i run the command kwin --replace it finish parsing the config file and stop it give me thhe error compsite manager crashed twice in  a minute therefor disapled for this session14:54
ActionParsnipSbucatone, yes that runs it in the background and gives you control of the konsole again14:54
SbucatoneActionParsnip: that is the issue i can't ckeck nothing because it gives me control of the konsole again14:54
Sbucatonesigh and sob14:54
ActionParsnipSbucatone, if you run it without it should  give system outputs14:55
default_other words how do I mount a ntfs usb drive and have it hotswap the mount?14:55
ActionParsnipSbucatone, what does it say for your default browser?14:55
ActionParsnipSbucatone, in konversation14:55
senorpedrothx guys, you were a great help :)14:56
default_"/dev/sdc1 /media/dockinghd01 ntfs-3g defaults 0 0" isn't working and I can't see in --help any options for noauto.  removing 'defautls' and putting noauto doesn't work14:56
SbucatoneActionParsnip: i have installed kde4 , and after that when i click on a link it try to open konqueror for kde4 and for some time it worked , after some update it doesn't work anymore14:56
hs^Hello, i saw a bug fix here in a package, it says:  This bug was fixed in the package qt4-x11 - 4.3.3-0ubuntu314:56
default_np seno14:56
hs^does that mean if you download the package now, you get the fix?14:57
SbucatoneActionParsnip: i don't know where i can check default browser for konversation do you know something14:57
SbucatoneActionParsnip: now i am using kde3 but i have that problem14:57
ActionParsnipSbucatone, check in tools -> options14:57
aharooni was trying to stop compiz fusion i run commund kwin --replace it hang and cradshed14:58
default_Do I still need ntfs-3g to have writable hd's? or will ntfs do it now?14:58
SlimeyPeteyou still need ntfs-3g14:59
ForgeAusyeah NTFS requires FUSE mounting14:59
ForgeAusfor read/write14:59
default_is fuse newer than 3g?15:00
aharooni want to stop compiz what i have 2do?15:00
ForgeAus3g employs FUSE mounting15:00
default_ok I thought fuse was backend15:00
ForgeAusI don't know whic project started first but they're used to compliment eachother15:00
ForgeAusbasically default yes it is a backend, I think... or something like that15:01
ForgeAusFUSE can be used for lots of things not just NTFS15:01
default_I've got a problem with my usb drive, which is ntfs, is not dismountingin hotswapping.  any ideas why not?15:02
ForgeAusum I don't know much about hotswap but generally you unmount a usb drive before disconnecting don't you?15:03
ForgeAusperhaps a file is open on the partition still?15:03
default_I jsut turned it off.15:03
default_I thought the noauto mode would handle the persistent nature15:03
* ForgeAus shrugs15:04
aharoonanyone help me to disaple compiz fusion i try the command kwin --replace it hung15:04
ForgeAusdisable or uninstall?15:04
prince_jammysaharoon: kwin --replace is the only way i know, sorry15:05
* ForgeAus shrugs15:05
aharoonok is it take too long time??15:05
prince_jammysaharoon: it blanks out for a bit,but shouldnt take too long15:05
coolbhaviHi all.. Fresh error while ripping CD's in k3b15:06
aharoonok thanks15:06
prince_jammysaharoon: i get a blank screen for about 2 seconds15:06
ForgeAusyou can probably remove the service from init.d (I think theres a command to do that) and/or change the desktop defaults?15:06
coolbhaviMore info: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55848/15:06
coolbhaviAny info?15:06
ForgeAuscoolb generalyl ripping from CD's is illegal15:06
MartinCleave1looks like kubuntu 6 had an alternate cd for lvm installs, but kubuntu 7 doesn't. Surely this means Gutsy should have lvm support?15:06
default_hehe I'm slowly getting the system working.  hehe.  I  only have the docking to fix, try to get canon 600f scanner workng,  get email server going, and install FASM for programming.  I'm pretty impressed at Kubuntu though.  It's at a stage where I can say I'm not going back to win3215:06
aharoonit give finished parsing the config file the it stop after that it didnt give me new line15:07
ForgeAusI think lvm was built into Feisty and probably gutsy too15:07
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO15:07
MartinCleave1thanks ForgeAus15:07
coolbhavi>ForgeAus I m ripping a movie here in India..15:08
coolbhavi>ForgeAus Any info?15:09
MartinCleave1doesn't mention ubuntu on the lvm one15:09
MartinCleave1the other one looks like a software raid, but I have only one disk in that box15:10
da_didinice.. the 3rd burned cd is still working..15:10
coolbhavi>ForgeAus Its my own birthday clippings.. ;-) There is no restriction on this I suppose..15:11
default_good to hear da_didi15:11
default_hi vigge_sWe15:11
vigge_sWeI am new to kubuntu, I have used windows all my life, so how do I install something?15:12
prince_jammysvigge_sWe: one way is "add-remove programs" just like windows15:12
vigge_sWecan I add firefox from there?15:12
prince_jammysvigge_sWe: yeah15:13
vigge_sWeI can't run adept...15:13
default_is KDE4 usable?  I tried it but I couldn't install anything.  like no apt.  Can I upgrade now and all works still in new api's?15:13
SlimeyPeteyou can add lots of stuff from there.15:13
prince_jammysvigge_sWe: why not?15:13
vigge_sWeIt say all the time it's already running15:13
vigge_sWeor "another proccess is using the packaging database" or something15:14
SlimeyPetedefault_: if you upgrade, some things won't work in KDE4.15:14
SlimeyPete!aptfix | vigge_sWe15:14
default_has anyone gone kde4 yet?15:14
SlimeyPetehrm, bot's being slow15:14
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »15:15
vigge_sWeyes I upgraded but kubuntu couldn't install all because something was wrong, I don't remember. Then it said something I should run a "adept-package"15:15
jussi01SlimeyPete: you got it while indexing I assume15:15
SlimeyPeteah, maybe15:15
SlimeyPetevigge_sWe: did you try what ubotu says above?15:15
vigge_sWeno I can't find out15:16
vigge_sWeit says "command not found"15:16
SlimeyPetewhat are you typing in?15:16
vigge_sWe« sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »15:16
SlimeyPeteerm, without the << and >> :15:16
jussi01vigge_sWe: remove the << >>15:16
default_has anyone gone kde4 yet?15:17
default_as in are power users going kde4 yet?15:17
jussi01default_: lots of people - support in #kubuntu-kde415:17
prince_jammysdefault_: not i15:17
default_is it working PknBst415:17
SlimeyPetedefault_: I did, briefly. Hardly anything worked properly so I came bck to kde3.15:18
vigge_sWewhat should I choose?15:18
jussi01vigge_sWe: where?15:18
* hydrogen has been using soley kde4 for a while15:18
vigge_sWein the terminal15:18
default_k that's answers the question.  I dont' need the problems whilst getting back into linux.15:18
jussi01vigge_sWe: no, what is it asking?15:18
SlimeyPetevigge_sWe: what question is it asking?15:18
vigge_sWeoops I accidentaly pressed enter15:19
vigge_sWeIm used to cmd15:19
vigge_sWeyou copy with enter15:19
vigge_sWeKonfigurationsfil "/etc/qt3/qt_plugins_3.3rc" ==> Den fil som nu finns skapades av dig eller ett skript. ==> Paketansvariges version finns även i paketet du installerar.   Vad vill du göra åt det?  Dina möjligheter är:   Y eller I: installera paketansvariges version   N eller O: behåll din nu installerade version      D     : visa skillnaderna mellan versionerna      Z     : lägg denna process i bakgrunden för att u15:19
vigge_sWe*** qt_plugins_3.3rc (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [förval=N] ?15:19
vigge_sWeit's in swedish ...15:19
jussi01!paste | vigge_sWe15:19
ubotuvigge_sWe: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)15:19
vigge_sWeoo ok15:20
PknBst4irssi the best :)15:20
jussi01vigge_sWe: your grand, that choice should be fine15:20
vigge_sWeit worked yey!15:21
vigge_sWeomg! where do I find all those games under the games tag?15:22
ubotuFor Irish whiskey and ubuntu support, visit #ubuntu-ie, Ta an uisce beatha agus cuidiú Ubuntu ar #ubuntu-ie, Béag fáilte ort15:23
vigge_sWeis everything installed???15:23
prince_jammysvigge_sWe: you just install them, they'll be automatically downloaded15:23
Qrawl!internet explorer15:23
vigge_sWeCan I install firefox from there?15:23
prince_jammysvigge_sWe: no, they are downloaded from a repository and automatically downloaded15:23
prince_jammysvigge_sWe: yes to the firefox question15:24
vigge_sWeI did that but I don't know how I should install it15:24
vigge_sWeoh ok15:24
prince_jammysvigge_sWe: what are you using? adept?15:24
default_OT what's the command to change your name in IRC, again?15:24
prince_jammysvigge_sWe: do "mark for installation" with anything you want to install and then apply15:25
vigge_sWeooo easier than windows15:25
prince_jammysvigge_sWe: you can install a bunch of things at once15:25
ForgeAusdefault /nick <insert newnick here>15:25
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vigge_sWeIs apache there??15:25
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prince_jammysvigge_sWe: yes15:25
IceBlockthx Forge15:25
installerguys trying to get compiz to work here15:25
prince_jammysvigge_sWe: apache, php, perl, mysql you name it15:26
prince_jammysvigge_sWe: no photoshop :)15:26
installernvidia FX1500015:26
vigge_sWeIt works on virtualbox, right?15:26
ForgeAusinstaller thats what kwin4 is for, no need for compiz :)15:26
prince_jammysvigge_sWe: get "wine"15:26
vigge_sWeI have photoshop outside virtualbox :)15:26
vigge_sWeI have windows15:26
ForgeAusme to vigge :)15:26
vigge_sWeI run kubuntu as windows as host15:26
ForgeAusVigge ever heard of AndLinux?15:27
prince_jammysvigge_sWe: i don't know virtualbox15:27
ForgeAusgoogle it15:27
ForgeAusits not virtualized but its similar I guess15:27
prince_jammysvigge_sWe: but i run photoshop in linux with wine15:27
ForgeAusinterop Windows + linux :)15:27
installerforgeaus what u talking about? kwin4 is a game no15:27
ForgeAus(from within Windows of course)15:27
ForgeAusinstaller yeah that too15:27
ForgeAusbut I meant kwin from KDE415:28
vigge_sWeprince_jammys: it's a virtual pc, it creates a virtual harddrive on windows there you can install kubuntu, mac, vista, nearly every os15:28
vigge_sWeI installed kubuntu in 3 minutes15:28
installerforgeaus you are saying to upgrade to kde4?15:28
vigge_sWeI still have windows xp running and I can use windows xp at the same time15:28
prince_jammysvigge_sWe: oh, sort of like wine, but backwards15:28
ForgeAuswell not necessarily upgrade15:28
ForgeAusbut perhaps run alongside?15:29
ForgeAusXnest it if you must :)15:29
ForgeAusWine is not a virtualizer or an emulator15:29
ForgeAusits a compatibility layer15:29
prince_jammysForgeAus: i know, i meant its use can be similar15:30
ForgeAusinstaller you can always Xnest (although these days its called Xephyr) your KDE4 if you like15:30
ForgeAus(or if your brave Xephyr your KDE3)15:30
installerforgeaus i dont understand what you mean. i have kubuntu 7.10 how do i get the 3d windows that compiz has?15:31
vigge_sWehi again15:31
ForgeAusinstaller I don't know what desktop effects kwin has in KDE4 but you don't need compiz for them thats all I'm saying15:31
Qrawlhow do you install IE615:32
vigge_sWeI got logged out for some reason15:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ie6 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:32
ForgeAusies4linux Qrawl15:32
ForgeAusgoogle it15:32
vigge_sWeAdept is saying I should insert gutsy gibbons, should I mount it with VirtualBox then?15:32
kaani need help, i cannot find firefox on kubuntu :S15:32
installerdamn this linux crap is hard. go WINDOWS!!!15:32
ForgeAusthats because it isn't installed by default kaan, at least I don't htink it is15:32
kaanit says its installed but i dunno where it is15:33
installereverything is a fuckin chore here15:33
QrawlForgeAus, I have it but Im getting a NOGui errer15:33
vigge_sWeIt's easy when you find the installer thing :)15:33
kaanwhen i check the packet manager15:33
kaanit says its installed15:33
* ForgeAus shrugs15:33
kaanthen i also installed version 3.015:33
ForgeAusnot sure why Qrawk15:33
kaanits still noth there :S15:33
ForgeAusgrr damn typos15:33
kaanany help15:33
prince_jammyskaan: what do you mena it's not there?15:33
ForgeAusinstaller linux takes time and some work yes but its not all hard15:33
kaanits not under the internet menu15:34
kthakorehow do I install raptor-menu for kde 4 also how do I turn on compiz in kde 415:34
kaani dunno where else it would be...15:34
ubotuKDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde415:34
prince_jammyskaan: can you do ALT-F2 and then type firefox?15:34
installeryeah really how does someone get freaking compiz to work on this bith15:34
kaancouldnt find the command...15:34
ForgeAusyou could go to #compiz-fusion kthakore15:34
prince_jammysinstaller: getting compiz to work can indeed be a bitch15:35
prince_jammyskaan: alt-F2, and in the box: firefox15:35
ForgeAusinstaller what video card do you have?15:35
kaanyep i did it15:35
installerthats the only reason i switched to this freaking thing.15:35
kaanits not working15:35
kthakoreForgeAus, nw15:35
installernvidia 1500015:35
installerquadro fx15:35
kaanit says couldn't find the specified command15:35
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto15:35
kthakoreHow do I install the KDE4 Development Packages libkde-dev?15:36
ForgeAusthat may be why compiz isn't working15:36
prince_jammyskaan: try reinstalling15:36
ForgeAusif you've done that then #compiz-fusion should be able to help better than I can15:36
prince_jammyskaan: or i guess installing, since it doesn't seem to be there15:36
kthakoreForgeAus, I already have compiz working for gnome ubnut15:36
kthakoreForgeAus, Just want to know how to enable it in kde15:36
MrJigsawWhen i did->  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 -> What do i need to write in fstab to make it remeber it ?15:37
ForgeAusKthakore yeah well I don't know I've never actually had it working before personally15:37
kaanwhat exactly should i search for in the packet manager for firefox???15:37
kthakoreok then ...15:37
ForgeAusI'm sure you can do it tho15:37
prince_jammyskaan: firefox :)15:37
kaanlol ok15:37
ForgeAusI just don't have enough experience with it15:37
kaanand which one should i install15:37
kaanor mozilla english package? :S15:37
ForgeAusI'd go ask the people in #compiz-fusion myself which is why I directed you guys there15:38
^CatMan^how do i make kdm my default window manager rather than gdm?15:38
prince_jammyskaan: there's a package named plain "firefox"15:38
IceBlockI installed firefox 3 and it wouldn't start.  I ahd to put in ver 215:38
ForgeAusalso installer, if your still there, compiz is no good reason to get linux...15:38
ForgeAushowever I have to admit it is nice eyecandy :)15:38
kaanaha gotcha :D silly questions i know ... sorry... new to linux kubuntu15:38
prince_jammyskaan: another way (after closing adept) is in a terminal: "sudo apt-get install firefox"15:38
prince_jammyskaan: np15:39
kaanok thank you15:39
QrawlForgeAus, ok ies4linux is working with the --no-gui option15:39
amali want 2 install real player15:40
ForgeAusQrawl I'm not sure that it shouldh ave been necessary Qrawl, but I'm glad that it is working at least15:40
MrJigsawNo one can help me ?15:40
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions15:40
MrJigsawI did read that, but cant figure out what to set in :S15:40
ForgeAusMrJigsaw I generally tend to model my fstab entries on the other ones already there15:41
da_didiadeapt reports errors when upgrade an fresh installation.. the update tells me there are updates and some steps later i have the latest system and the upgrade restarts... i recall why i didn't install *buntu last time on my desktop :/15:41
ForgeAusbtw as type is ntfs you want to fuse mount so check out that stuff15:41
ubotuFUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems15:41
ForgeAusI'm not sure if fstab uses "fuse" as a type or not tho15:42
amalwant 2 install real playe15:42
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: an example   "/dev/sda1       /mnt/windows    ntfs-3g uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=227     0       0"15:42
da_didiafter a reboot is still a process blocking the database..15:42
amalwant 2 install real player15:42
ForgeAusok MrJigsaw you might find http://www.debuntu.org/2006/04/27/39-mounting-a-fuse-filesystem-form-etcfstab more helpful15:42
ForgeAusoh wait Prince stepped in with an answer :)15:43
jussi01!adeptfix | da_didi15:43
ubotuda_didi: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »15:43
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ForgeAusbesides the article was old, for dapper (possibly still relevant tho)15:43
ForgeAuswb vigge :)15:43
vigge_sWehi again15:43
MrJigsawprince_jammys: so /dev/sdb1       /media/sdb1    ntfs-3g uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=227     0       0 <- Should be it ?15:43
vigge_sWeI have problem installing15:43
ForgeAuswhat kinda problem vigge?15:43
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vigge_sWeIt says I should mount gutsy gibbons and when I do kubuntu is starting from cd and I can't install firefox15:44
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: in your case i guess /dev/sdb1 /wherever/you're mounting it/     ntfs-3g      uid=your_id,gid=same, umask 227    0     015:44
vigge_sWecd=mount for me15:44
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: 227 is rw-rw----15:44
vigge_sWeI don't get it :S15:45
prince_jammysi mean r-xr-x---15:45
ForgeAuskubuntu starting from CD?15:45
vigge_sWeI have a ISO15:45
kaanoh and how can I watch windows codecs with kaffein?15:45
ForgeAusok well its basically a liveCD iso right?15:45
MrJigsawprince_jammys: okay.. now ive wrote in: /dev/sdb1 /wherever/you're mounting it/     ntfs-3g      uid=your_id,gid=same, umask 227    0     0 - So i hope it work :)15:45
MrJigsawno shit15:45
ForgeAusyou want it to boot from the HDD right?15:45
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: correction: 227 is r-xr-x---15:45
vigge_sWeyes but I haven't burned it to a cd15:45
kaanwhich codec should i install?15:45
da_didiokay, worked.. thanks jussi01(i see its a common problem still..)15:45
ForgeAusto do that eject the iso (or whatever you do disconnect in VMware, etc)15:45
ForgeAusand reboot, if that doesn't work then reinsert the iso15:46
MrJigsaw/dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1/     ntfs-3g      uid=your_id,gid=same, umask 227    0     0 <- thats what i wrote in15:46
ForgeAusboot from it and read !grub15:46
vigge_sWebut if I do that I can't install firefox15:46
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto15:46
jussi01da_didi: yeah, hopefully fixed next release15:46
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: hehe15:46
ForgeAusvigge you can when it boots from the HDD15:46
vigge_sWebut it doesen't15:46
ForgeAus(rather than the .iso)15:46
kaanprince_jammys: which codec should i install?15:46
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: put  in your uid15:46
vigge_sWeit boots from the iso15:46
MrJigsawuid ?15:46
ForgeAusgrrr its not at the moment because it doesn't start independantly right?15:47
default_pMrJigsaw: you need to set upt he drive to read first then change the string in fstab so that ntfs reads ntfs-3g15:47
ForgeAusif you eject the iso and try booting what happens?15:47
MrJigsawi did mount the drive to /media/sdb1, default_p..15:47
ForgeAusit asks for gutsy right?15:47
vigge_sWeit boots normal without firefox I apparently installed inside the iso...15:47
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: in a terminal, do    echo $UID15:48
default_pI had the same problem with getting write mode.  I installed ntfs-3g from the website, not the repository15:48
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: it's probably 100015:48
ForgeAusvigge the .iso by default is likely to be a LiveCD one that you can boot up into your OS with independantly of the HDD15:48
MrJigsawYes, its 1000 prince_jammys15:48
MrJigsawso uid=1000 ?15:48
ForgeAus(ie stick it in ur cd drive and reboot your computer you don't even need a HDD...15:48
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: right, and gid=100015:48
ForgeAusbut doing that means you can't install stuff because its all running .. I think in ram?? or at elast some non-installable filesystem)15:49
vigge_sWeBut I use VirtualBox to mount the ISO from my windows harddrive that is on same hardrive as kubuntu but kubunu is inside a .VDI file15:49
MrJigsawSo its like this prince_jammys; uid=1000,gid=1000, ?15:49
ForgeAusyou need it ON THE HDD and booting from there (instead of the LiveCD)15:49
ForgeAusvigge you have a virtual hard drive right?15:49
ForgeAusa hardfile?15:49
ForgeAusa .VHD or whatever Virtaulbox calls them?15:49
ForgeAusthats where you install it on15:49
prince_jammysMrJigsaw:  /dev/sdb1       /media/sdb1       ntfs-3g     uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=227     0       015:50
ForgeAusso from the .iso while its booted (from the CD inside the vm, outside to you its the .iso)15:50
ForgeAusits considered booting as a LiveCD...15:50
MrJigsawthats what i wrote in.. and i just put it in new line in the end of the docoment, right prince_jammys?15:50
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: right15:50
ForgeAusthen you click the install icon and it should set it up on the HDD for you15:50
MrJigsawGood, thanks. :915:50
default_pMrJigsaw: Not sure if this is walking under ladder situation, but I manually also set the mount media directory to chmod a-rwx <mountdir> whislt unmounted the drive using fasermount -u <mountdrive>15:50
vigge_sWebut look, when I boot from the harddrive and try to install firefox through adept it says "please insert gutsy gibbons" and when I do that kubuntu reboots15:50
ForgeAusthen you disconnect/eject the .iso (CD inside the VM)15:50
vigge_sWeI try again15:51
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: you saved it?15:51
ForgeAusvigge... does it say that after you login to the hard drive install?15:51
vigge_sWeno I can't mount the ISO when running kubuntu15:51
MrJigsawyes, prince_jammys.15:51
ForgeAusyou should be able to15:51
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: once you have saved it you can mount with:            mount /media/sdb115:51
kaancan someone tell me a codec to install so i can watch mpegs, avi, wmv etc...15:51
default_pMrJigsaw: then I let the fdisk&filesystem util in settings to set the security agian after putting all the right options.  it then read and then I demounted it and chg to -3g line.15:52
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: sudo mount /media/sdb115:52
ForgeAuscan you run the VM from the .VHD Hard drive while the .iso isn't virtually inserted in the drive?15:52
MrJigsawWell prince_jammys, now it should mount automatic when i boot up, right ?15:52
ForgeAusok do that15:52
ForgeAusget to ur kubuntu desktop15:52
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: yes, though you can also mount it right now15:52
vigge_sWeI have installed kubuntu on the virtual harddrive15:52
vigge_sWewhat's next?15:52
MrJigsawWell i dit mount it before :)15:52
ForgeAusfirst of all do you see an install icon on the desktop?15:52
vigge_sWebut I do when I mount the ISO15:53
ForgeAusgood that means you've got that far correctly :)15:53
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: to be able to write to it, change the 227 to 02715:53
ForgeAusok now run a konsole window15:53
default_pMrJigsaw:  this is my fstab line "/dev/sda1 /media/windows ntfs-3g defaults 0 0"15:53
vigge_sWeok and now?15:53
ForgeAusfrom there type apt-get install firefox15:53
ForgeAussudo apt-get install firefox15:53
MrJigsawOkay prince_jammys.. done, and thanks :-)15:54
ForgeAus(I keep forgetting my sudo's)15:54
vigge_sWeEvil_DuDe: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?15:54
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: remember 227 is read-only15:54
ForgeAusyeah sorry vigge my fault15:54
ForgeAusI forgot the sudo15:54
ForgeAusits sudo apt-get install firefox15:54
default_pMrJigsaw: it's ok to leave all ownership on the media dir to root.15:54
vigge_sWelol: Please restart any running Firefoxes15:55
ForgeAusrunning firefoxes?15:55
MrJigsawprince_jammys: when i do: sudo mount /media/sdb1 i get: [mntent]: line 25 in /etc/fstab is bad15:55
vigge_sWelol but I think it did install15:55
ForgeAusyour not running one from within your host or something?15:55
ForgeAuscheck ksysguard for running processes vigge15:55
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: check it first to make sure it's like what we said15:56
vigge_sWeit works now ty15:56
ForgeAus(the command is kdesu ksysgauard I think, if that doesn't work try kdesudo instead of kdesu)15:56
MrJigsawprince_jammys: im pretty sure it is, take a look: /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1/     ntfs-3g      uid=1000,gid=1000, umask 027    0     015:56
vigge_sWeHave some1 installed apache who can help me?15:56
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: the folder /media/sdb1 exists?15:56
ForgeAusif you just run ksysguard then you probably won't be able to do anythign with the process table (if you can even get one at all)15:56
MrJigsawyes prince_jammys.. its my mountpoint for my 500Gb harddrive..15:57
ForgeAus(without the kdesu[do] that is)15:58
MrJigsawshould i delete the other lines where sdb1 is prince_jammys? (in /etc/fstab ?15:58
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g15:58
ForgeAusvigge you don't need a linux vm to install apache to15:58
ForgeAus(you can do that in ur windows install can't you?)15:59
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MrJigsawsudo apt-get install ntfs-3g <- prince_jammys :/15:59
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: yes, comment out the other lines with #15:59
ForgeAus(like get apache and mod_*'s that you want and even django if you have python for example)15:59
MrJigsawffs.. stupid copy/paste in kubuntu konsole :|15:59
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: you don't have to delete them, just in case15:59
daffytheduckhi Im having problems with amarok sharing the same soundcard for systems sounds everytime i try to use amarok with this soundcard I get the following "xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers" but if I use a different soundcard amarok works fine15:59
ForgeAusfor that matter you can run  firefox from windows15:59
MrJigsawLABEL=Storage /media/sdb1 ntfs defaults,umask=007,loop,uid=0,gid=46,auto,rw,nouser 0 116:00
MrJigsaw# /dev/sdc1 <- i should delete?16:00
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: no16:00
vigge_sWeNow how do I install apache?16:00
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: the lines beginning with # do nothing, they are just comments16:00
jpatrick!apache | vigge_sWe16:00
ubotuvigge_sWe: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)16:00
MrJigsawprince_jammys: DISK1 /media/sdb1 auto nouser,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0 <- this one then ?16:01
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: put a # at the beginning16:01
MrJigsawokay.. but why not just delete it? it was a wrong mount i did yesterday :/16:02
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: ok16:02
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arrrghhhso does anyone know why firefox doesn't update automatically in linux but it does in windows?  my virtual machine always gets firefox updates (like the new beta 3) without my intervention.  my linux boxes?  not so much.16:03
MrJigsawmount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /media/sdb1 busy16:04
MrJigsawmount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /media/sdb1 < prince_jammys, i guess thats the reply im looking for, right?16:04
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: are you able to browse the files?16:04
MrJigsawmount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /media/sdb1 busy16:04
MrJigsawmount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /media/sdb1 <- prince_jammys, i guess tahts the answer im looking for, right16:04
jussi01arrrghhh: see the last part of the !wfm factoid16:04
MrJigsawFuck sorry..16:04
vigge_sWeI tried installing lamp and it says I should insert the disc in /cdrom/...16:04
MrJigsawi were scrolled up.. that sucks :P, but yes prince_jammys, im able to browse the device..16:05
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/16:05
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: then it looks like you're ok.  they should be mounted every time16:05
jussi01!ohmy | MrJigsaw16:05
ubotuMrJigsaw: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.16:05
BluesKaj!language | MrJigsaw16:05
arrrghhhjussi01: uhm... that is the most worthless response i've ever heard.16:05
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MrJigsawALl right, all right jussi01 and BluesKaj.. i get it. SORRY :P16:05
arrrghhhand the new firefox betas16:06
arrrghhhhave been more stable than FF216:06
vigge_sWeI think I have kubuntu 7.10 on a cd somewhere...16:06
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daffytheduck /msg NickServ IDENTIFY najdorf116:06
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: you can test your fstab now by doing sudo umount /media/sdb1, and then sudo mount /media/sdb116:06
BluesKajMrJigsaw, we understand the frustration cuz I've been there too :)16:06
arrrghhhdaffytheduck: yea that's why i don't msg nickserv in the room, i do it in the status page lol16:07
daffytheducki just told the whole world my p/word16:07
MrJigsawBut when i so 'fuck sorry' its nothing bad imo :)16:07
jussi01daffytheduck: I suggest you change it quick :)16:07
BluesKajwell MrJigsaw if you do it again you'll be gone16:08
MrJigsaw[mntent]: line 22 in /etc/fstab is bad16:08
MrJigsawmount: can't find /media/sdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab <- I get that now prince_jammys  :/16:08
arrrghhhjust don't curse, simple16:08
prince_jammysMrJigsaw:  how can that be? isn't the line there?16:08
MrJigsawyes it is16:09
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: i don't get it16:09
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: if the directory exists, and it's in fstab, then i don't understand the error16:10
MrJigsawprince_jammys: it does say that the line is bad..16:10
vigge_sWeanyone can help me with installing LAMP?16:10
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: does it give a line number?16:10
MrJigsawline 1816:11
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: check it out16:11
MrJigsawIts the line16:11
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)16:11
MrJigsaw2 secs. ille paste me fstab in there..16:11
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: kdesude kate /etc/fstab        (F11 to view line numbers)16:11
MrJigsawprince_jammys: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55854/16:12
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: kdesudo16:12
MrJigsawthats my fstab :)16:12
vigge_sWeplease help me with LAMP16:12
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)16:12
daffytheduckchange the bulb16:13
vigge_sWenot that16:13
vigge_sWeI already read that16:13
SlimeyPetevigge_sWe: what's the problem exactly?16:13
vigge_sWeI tried to install it but the damn thing want me to insert the 7.10 cd16:13
vigge_sWeinto th /cdrom/ folder...16:13
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: you're using the "Music" partition?16:13
vigge_sWeI use mount of a ISO16:13
vigge_sWeIf I put my ISO in kubuntu doesen't start from the hdd16:14
vigge_sWeand I can't install anything...16:14
SlimeyPetevigge_sWe: can kubuntu see the internet?16:14
default_plamer question.  where is the file association manger?16:14
default_pI want to have flv files associated with vlc player16:14
raomanis there any solution for the USB device mounting in Kubuntu...?16:14
SlimeyPetevigge_sWe: ok, just a moment16:15
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: can you pastebin : sudo fdisk -l16:15
damianQbuntu is the best16:15
MrJigsawyes, ofc prince_jammys, 2 secs.16:15
BluesKajvigge_sWe, you have to go into your sources.list file and edit the deb cdromrepository by putting a # in front or deleting the line and saving the file.16:15
SlimeyPetevigge_sWe: replace your /etc/apt/sources.list with the one at http://www.scruffbag.net/sources.list16:16
SlimeyPete(that's mine)16:16
MrJigsawprince_jammys: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55857/16:16
vigge_sWeand where do I find that file?????????16:16
sub[t]rnldefault_p➜ alt + f2 kcontrol -> Kde components -> File association16:16
default_pthc sub[t]rnl16:16
BluesKajvigge_sWe, alt+F2, kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list16:16
* BluesKaj backs off....too many cooks 16:17
vigge_sWethat sources.list you posted is for beta right?16:18
SlimeyPetevigge_sWe: it is for gutsy16:19
vigge_sWeit says beta at the first lin, mine says release16:19
jeseDoes anyone knows if knetworkmanager has a dcop interface?16:19
SlimeyPetevigge_sWe: the beta line is commented out16:20
sub[t]rnljese➜ it does16:20
SlimeyPetevigge_sWe: it is an old line and no longer used16:20
SlimeyPetevigge_sWe: you can delete it if it makes you feel better :)16:20
jesesub[t]rnl: thanks, can I add Access Points with it?16:20
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sub[t]rnljese➜ checking16:20
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: umask=  it's missing the equal sign, sorry --- and delete the space before umask16:20
jesesub[t]rnl: it doesn't seem to have a help file16:20
MrJigsawuhm prince_jammys.. like this then: /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1/     ntfs-3g      uid=1000,gid=1000,=umask 027    0     016:21
vigge_sWeit still asks for the cd to be putted in /cdrom/16:21
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: umask=02716:21
MrJigsaw/dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1/     ntfs-3g      uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=027    0     0 - Then ? :D16:22
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: yes, try that16:22
sub[t]rnljese➜ all there is a notifyDatabaseChanged, List interfaces, startupId, disableSessionManagement, quit16:22
SlimeyPetevigge_sWe: now run "sudo apt-get update"16:22
SlimeyPetevigge_sWe: or click "update" in Adept16:22
SlimeyPetevigge_sWe: this will download package lists from the internet.16:23
MrJigsawprince_jammys: mount: can't find /media/sdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab <- :(16:23
SlimeyPetevigge_sWe: from then on, kubuntu will look for packages on the internet rather than CD.16:23
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: wow16:23
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: paste it up :)16:23
jesesub[t]rnl: many thanks. It seems to be very hard to add Access Points to knetworkmanager with a script which is very simple with Gnome. The biggest problem is kwallet manager.16:23
MrJigsawfstab prince_jammys?16:23
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: yeah16:24
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sub[t]rnljese➜ knetworkmanager is a bit rough. :p16:24
Picachoowhere can i understand about users accounts and priviliages. applications behaviour and sharing with control  in detail?16:24
MrJigsawprince_jammys: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55860/ <- I just wanna say thanks, i really apriciate youre help :-)16:24
jesesub[t]rnl: it maybe work without kwallet manager but this is no real option16:25
vigge_sWeshould I ignore that whole my desktop went black?16:25
vigge_sWeo sry16:25
vigge_sWeit didn't16:25
sub[t]rnljese➜ you could use wpa_supplicant or another alternative that's more flexible16:25
vigge_sWeVirtualBox is adding a large black frame16:25
jesesub[t]rnl: That removes the great Gui :(16:25
vigge_sWestill used to windows...16:25
vigge_sWeI get this on the update: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc                                                              ess using it?16:26
jesesub[t]rnl: and it works fine with Gnome but I am planning to change but adding ~50 access points is a little bit embarassing16:26
vigge_sWeAnd LAMP is still asking for CD16:26
jesewith WPA Enterprise of course16:26
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sub[t]rnl!enter | vigge_sWe16:26
ubotuvigge_sWe: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!16:26
SlimeyPetevigge_sWe: you must quit adept before using apt-get16:26
SlimeyPetevigge_sWe: you cannot run two installers at the same time16:27
* sub[t]rnl slides SlimeyPete a cup of coffee16:27
vigge_sWeoh ok I always do that on windows lol16:27
hilary_clintonwhois Zeelot16:27
SlimeyPetesub[t]rnl: cheers :)16:27
jeseWindows has no package system.16:27
Picachoowhere can i understand about users accounts and priviliages. applications behaviour and sharing with control  in detail?16:27
jesesub[t]rnl: thanks for help16:28
SlimeyPetevigge_sWe: the installer saves some data in a database. If two installers try to save data at the same time one might overwrite the other by accident!:)16:28
vigge_sWeit still says E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?16:28
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: i can't see what's wrong with it -- all i can think of is to move the line above all the <device> entries, but that's because i'm running out of ideas16:28
SlimeyPetevigge_sWe: ok, try this:16:28
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »16:28
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: the line looks good16:29
SlimeyPetevigge_sWe: but do not do the dpkg --configure -a    bit16:29
vigge_sWeKill process 5077 ? (y/N)16:29
MrJigsawCant hurt to try it prince_jammys ;)16:29
MrJigsawDosent work either ;|16:29
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: and you have ntfs-3g installed?16:30
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vigge_sWedpkg: need a command to do16:30
MrJigsawit says so when i do: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g :)16:30
SlimeyPetevigge_sWe: don't do the dpkg bit, just "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg"16:31
SlimeyPetevigge_sWe: don't do the dpkg bit, just "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock"16:31
SlimeyPetevigge_sWe: then run the "sudo apt-get update" bit again16:32
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: I'm stuck then.  try to reboot and come back?16:32
vigge_sWeIt worked16:32
vigge_sWeshould I try LAMP now?16:32
SlimeyPetevigge_sWe: :) now try to install LAMP16:32
SlimeyPeteit should use the internet now16:32
MrJigsawokay prince_jammys. ill try, brb.16:33
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vigge_sWeshould I get any install complete or something?16:37
JoshOvkiwhats the recommended FTP client for kubuntu?16:38
TimSAnyone updated the language packs from yesterday?16:39
SlimeyPetevigge_sWe: no, if it exits without errors then it worked.16:39
TimSSomeone was telling me theres a problem with them, i am not sure how valid that is.16:39
psicobrahi all i have an external 40 GN hard drive that is formated as ntfs when how do i get it to auto mount when i plug it in?16:39
vigge_sWebecause it says "installed php5-mysql 100%" for awhile now. Should I just close it?16:40
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BluesKajTimS, there's some stability probs with some KDE apps, the Panel & Kicker16:41
SlimeyPetevigge_sWe: leave it16:41
SlimeyPetevigge_sWe: it may take a while16:41
TimSBluesKaj: Ill hold off then :16:42
BluesKajTimS, I didn't mean you shouldn't update , just be warned you may need to go into kcontrol and reset your kicker and panel after the upgrade16:43
vigge_sWeSlimeyPete: can I minimize kubuntu and do things on the windows xp in the meantime while Kubuntu is still running in it's window?16:46
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: make sure you have a blank line at the end of the fstab file (press enter after the last written line and save)16:48
TimSAlright BluesKaj :)16:49
MrJigsawprince_jammys: the harddrive works now :>16:50
MrJigsawso i guess its all working :)16:50
lg188hi python scripting problems dcop amarok16:50
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: excellent16:50
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: now you can just mimic that any time you want to mount other stuff in the future16:50
MrJigsawYes, cool, thanks :-)16:51
lg188prince_jammys: any python knowledge ?16:51
prince_jammyslg188: none whatsoever16:52
lg188prince_jammys: kk,16:52
prince_jammyslg188: some perl, some bash, some php no python16:52
lg188prince_jammys: ty anyway16:52
prince_jammyslg188: np16:52
Hammer89is the flash plugin working for konqueror again?16:52
jpatrick!flashissue | Hammer8916:52
ubotuHammer89: The Flash plugin installation has been broken for some time. A fix has been released now, although it might not have yet reached all mirrors. If the update fails to install Flash, try « sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree ; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree »16:52
Hammer89jpatrick: has that worked for you? my I'm not actually using konqueror... I'm using Opera... and I've tried that method to no avail... hence why I'm asking if it works on konqueror  (to see if it's just an issue with Opera... or if I'm not alone with this issue)16:54
jpatrickHammer89: dunno, hardly use flash16:55
Hammer89jpatrick: okay16:55
Hammer89anyone else have any idea if the flash plugin is working with konqueror?16:55
sub[t]rnlHammer89➜ works here16:56
Hammer89sub[t]rnl: okay.. thanks16:57
prince_jammysHammer89: seems to work for me16:57
Hammer89are y'all using post-fix releases?16:57
vigge_sWeLAMP is still at 100%, should I w8 more? How long time do you think it gonna take?17:00
SlimeyPetevigge_sWe: hmm, should be done by now.17:00
vigge_sWeit still showing "installed php5-mysql 100%"17:01
SlimeyPetevigge_sWe: best to close it. However you may have to run the aptfix command again17:01
vigge_sWepls can you send it again?17:01
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »17:02
SlimeyPeterun that after you close the window17:02
vigge_sWewith or without the last part?17:02
SlimeyPeteI'm not sure why it's pausing like that - it shouldn't.17:02
SlimeyPetewith the last part, this time.17:02
hydrogenwithout the »17:02
SlimeyPeteyeah, without the <<>> but with the dpkg --configure a17:03
SlimeyPeteok. Did it give an error?17:03
SlimeyPetethen your LAMP is installed :)17:03
vigge_sWeit didn't gave anything17:03
vigge_sWenow it's just phpMyAdmin left, right?17:04
SlimeyPetevigge_sWe: if adept keeps crashing like that, use apt-get instead. "sudo apt-get install appname" eg "sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin"17:04
vigge_sWewhat apache should I choose?17:05
vigge_sWe[ ] apache2 [ ] apache [ ] apache-ssl        │    [ ] apache-perl17:06
vigge_sWeI should have pressed backspace there17:06
vigge_sWeshould it be apache2?17:06
SlimeyPeteyeah apache217:06
vigge_sWeAnd now I need to configure php right?17:07
lg188hi tags:python;scripting problems;dcop;amarok;fast17:07
max_Hi, I cannot lunch kate in root17:08
Tm_Tmax_: did you use kdesudo?17:09
max_kdesudo ?17:09
ubotuIn KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)17:09
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sparrwi am considering changing from a kde/windows launcher+taskbar to a gnome/mac dock17:10
lg188python scripter needed17:10
max_i've the same mistake than kdesu17:11
vigge_sWehow do I start phpMyAdmin?17:11
max_Xlib: No protocol specified17:11
max_kdesu: cannot connect to X server :0.017:11
raitisi installed kubuntu, my windows partition was gone now i fixed it, unhiden it and fixed the boot but now windows loads but no icons or sytem loads just the background any suggestions?17:12
sub[t]rnlmax_➜ run kdesu instead of sudo su17:12
ArmedKingIs Kde menu still disorganized in comparence to gnome?17:12
ArmedKingI been out a wile ^_^17:12
Tm_TArmedKing: your question means nothing to me, like to elaborate?17:12
sub[t]rnlmax_➜ kdesu kwrite (as normal user)17:13
max_as normal user: Failed to open device17:13
cj_how well does flash work on amd64?17:13
ArmedKingWhen i used KDE the KDE menu seemed like one big mess to me17:13
BluesKajraitis, maybe the ppl at #windows can help17:13
BluesKajcj_, it'll work on Firefox if you install ia32libs17:14
ArmedKingTm_T, I not Flaming kubuntu or something but i realy like the desktop only thing i get enoyed by is the Kde Menu17:14
ForgeAustheres several alternative menus17:14
max_kde4 is better kde317:14
ForgeAusat least for KDE3 dunno about KDE417:14
ForgeAustheres KBFX for example17:15
Tm_TArmedKing: yes, but still your question is "empty" in my eyes, anyway, some others might know this issue better anyway, I don't use menus really17:15
BluesKajArmedKing, there are other kmenu options like Tasty Menu and Kickoff17:15
adz21ccj_: fine for me in kde3 and firefox17:15
sub[t]rnlArmedKing➜ kmenu is organized alphabetically by the programs description.17:15
ForgeAusyou don't even neeed to use the kmenu at all if you get a dock app like cairodock or kooldock (17:15
cj_gnash kinda sucks17:15
ForgeAusyeah cj well as opposed to Adobe flash it tends to as far as I've been experienced with it17:16
ArmedKingKK iĺl just give it a try again and look for those alternate menus. Because i like the simplicity in the Gnome menu but love the flexibility of KDE hehe17:16
ForgeAussimplicity? go for KDE4's or wait till it gets better17:16
cj_ArmedKing: customize it and stop winging17:16
ForgeAus(KDE4 is mostly a new thing)17:17
ArmedKingcj_, :D Oke m8 haha no problem, KDE4 stable now?17:17
Tm_Tstable yes17:17
Tm_Tfull with functions, no17:17
ArmedKingOke thanks you guys, And sorry bout the Wining ;-)17:18
phoenixzArmedKing, see #kubuntu-kde4 for more info17:20
arcticpenguin380is it possible to use dappers start up sound in kubuntu 7.10?17:21
phoenixzArmedKing, and Im using kde4 right now as a production desktop.. I would not recommend others to do so yet, but Im nuts anyway.. Its just to say: Its stable enough to start using it17:21
Tm_Tjust to make sure you know that desktop can be ugly: http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/current.png17:22
ArmedKingphoenixz, Oke but Kubuntu-desktop doesnt take kde4 right17:23
BluesKajkde4 is a seperate install17:24
phoenixzArmedKing, on kubuntu.org you can find a link to a repository that you have to use with apt-get..17:24
ArmedKingOke, Iĺl go check it out on my other box ;-)17:24
phoenixzthen you can install it17:24
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ArmedKingphoenixz, Tnx17:24
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phoenixzArmedKing, you can run KDE4 right next to KDE3, without problem17:24
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mefisto__you can have a kde3 session and a kde4 session running simultaneously?17:26
Tm_Tyes, as separate X sessions, if you like17:26
mefisto__and about how much extra disk space would kde4 need?17:27
Tm_Tdepends, less than 200 MB is doable IIRC17:27
mefisto__is there any reason to avoid giving it a try?17:28
bin4ryhey together17:28
bin4ryneed to know how i can convert a divx file to dvd format17:29
bin4rywith audio and video stream17:29
llutz_bin4ry: avidemux, ffmpeg, mencoder, ...17:29
mefisto__bin4ry: are you actually creating a dvd disk, or just want to encode to mpeg2 dvd format?17:30
bin4ryi want to create a dvd-disc which is recognized by my (old) dvd player17:30
llutz_bin4ry: devede, kmediafactory (not sure about divx-input)17:31
mefisto__bin4ry: you might want to try DeVeDe if you don't need dvd menus, mandvd if you want simple menus, or Qdvdauthor if you want nice menus17:32
BluesKajbin4ry, a lot of players will play divx orxvid now , jus tuse the data dvd option in K3B to burn them , and they will work fine, unless it's absolutely necessary to transcode to mpeg for dvd17:32
arcticpenguin380Is JFS better than ext3 with large parittions at 140GV17:32
bin4rythx all17:33
BluesKajtovid for cli or devede for gui , will do the transcodes nicely , bin4ry17:33
mefisto__bin4ry: Qdvdauthor is not too polished though, and not very easy to learn to use. and the version in repos is a little dated17:34
kaandoes anyone know why adept manager crashes everytime after an installation... And when I try to open it after, it opens up in read only mode... I'm using kubuntu 7.1017:34
kaanhow do I reset the adept manager to original specs?17:34
kaansomeone help pls17:36
phoenixzkaan, what do you mean exactly?17:37
kaanuh i cant get the error messege right now17:37
phoenixzkaan, you mean adept configuration? or installed packages?17:37
kaanbut it crashes and okay 1 sec17:37
kaanadept configuration i mean17:37
lg188help --tags:ruby;scripting problems;dcop;amarok;commands17:37
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto17:37
phoenixzkaan, it tells you that you can not modify software anymore?17:37
phoenixz!aptfix | kaan17:37
ubotukaan: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »17:37
mefisto__that's the one17:37
kaanit says another process is using the manager17:37
phoenixzkaan, see above, the !aptfix things17:38
phoenixz!aptfix | kaan17:38
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kaanwow ubotu is pretty smart!17:40
kaannice AI17:40
phoenixzkaan, anything else we can help you with?17:41
lg188help --tags:ruby;scripting problems;dcop;amarok;commands17:41
phoenixzlg188, excuse me?17:41
lg188phoenixz:  i need help with ruby for scripting a amarok dcop script17:42
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phoenixzlg188, Im not a machine, I talk English :)17:43
lg188can you help me ?17:43
phoenixzDon't know ruby, sorry.. but if you want help iwth that, I think you'll have better luck in the #amarok, or #ruby channels17:44
abortdsame old problems :/17:45
abortdmy screen resolution17:46
abortdit never fits my monitor17:46
phoenixzabortd, screen res problems on KDE.. :) Dunno why but I hear this a lot.. HAD this a lot too..17:46
phoenixzabortd, what chipset?17:46
PicachooI have 10 clients and a server. (net cafe) is there a way that i can only allow use of OpenOffice, Skype, ICQ, Opera, Mozilla Firefox, amsn, unix yahoo messenger, Email Client, MP3-Player, DVD-Player , a shared folder having  vidoes and songs, all these present on desktop as the shortcuts. i do not want ANY other app or service to be able to run on clients. not even right clicks or desktop customisation. NOTHING. but i wan a service to moniter the time17:46
kaanwhy adept manager doesn't download some packages17:47
abortdi have a geforce 550017:47
phoenixzPicachoo, there is a way yeah17:47
kaanI'm trying to install eclipse17:47
phoenixzPicachoo, what was the app name again...17:47
abortdphoenixz: i get it on gnome too sometimes17:47
kaanhelp pls17:47
Picachoo the time for which the pc is Onn. complete logs auto started on logon and log file not editable by the user, but me. Possible? how?17:47
phoenixzkaan, what error is it showing?17:47
Picachoophoenixz 1 sec17:48
hs^Hello. i can boot kubuntu with -noapic ... but it wont run the installer.17:48
phoenixzPicachoo, the hard way would be with user rights.. Just don't give exec rights.. but that won't fix modifications to the desktop..17:48
hs^i click on it.. it says 'loading installer'.. but never appears17:48
phoenixzPicachoo, there is this app where you can completely arrange what can be done and what not17:48
Picachoophoenixz use of OpenOffice, Skype, ICQ, Opera, Mozilla Firefox, amsn, unix yahoo messenger, Email Client, MP3-Player, DVD-Player , a shared folder having  vidoes and songs, all these present on desktop as the shortcuts.17:49
phoenixzkaan, if you want help you need to give some info17:49
Picachoophoenixz how exactly17:49
phoenixzabortd, what chipset do you use?17:49
abortdwhat do you mean?17:49
phoenixzPicachoo, there is an app for that but I forgot the name.. Let me check adept.17:49
abortdceleron i think17:49
phoenixzabortd, intel... 915, 945 perhaps?17:49
kaanThere was an error committing changes. There was possibly a problem downloading some packages, or else the commit would break packages.17:49
abortdi dont know...17:49
abortdi dont care about this pc that much17:50
kaanthis is the error phoenixz17:50
kaani think i need more sources to download from?17:50
phoenixzPicachoo, Im really not sure about this one, but try kiosktool...17:50
phoenixzPicachoo, Mexico?17:50
Picachoophoenixz package name is kiosktool?17:50
Picachoophoenixz pakistan17:50
phoenixzPicachoo, close enough :)17:50
mefisto__kaan: you could try changing the server adept is using17:51
phoenixzabortd, try installing 915resolution package..17:51
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vigge_sWeI can't edit httpd.conf as root17:51
abortdwhats that and hoow phoenixz?17:51
HS^Hello. i can boot kubuntu with -noapic ... but it wont run the installer. doesnt load. now what?17:51
phoenixzkaan, adept sometimes has some problems.. great util, but it has its glitches still..17:51
amali want to install real player 10 gold17:51
phoenixzabortd, sudo apt-get install 915resolution17:51
phoenixzamal, woah! why? there are better things than that17:52
phoenixzamal, you don't need it just to play rm files17:52
phoenixzkaan, try installing it again17:52
phoenixzkaan, or, try adding some other repositories17:52
=== manuel__ is now known as sexy-
phoenixzkaan, install only 1 pacakge at the time to see which pacakge causes the problem17:52
kaandamn it17:53
abortdphoenixz: couldnt find package?17:53
kaani treid adding another server source to install17:53
phoenixzvigge_sWe, as root you can do *everything*17:53
kaanbut now this happened17:53
kaanThe APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.17:53
Repsa_Jihsudo apt-setup17:53
vigge_sWehow do I use "root" then?17:53
kaani tried it cannot find the command....17:53
phoenixzkaan, sounds like you modified the sources.list file and either made a mistake in it or forgot an sudo apt-get update17:53
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phoenixzvigge_sWe, sudo vim /etc/apache2/apache2.conf ?17:54
nosrednaekimvigge_sWe➜ sudo -i17:54
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phoenixzvigge_sWe, or sudo su -17:54
kaanthere we go17:54
kaanokay now in the terminal for updating17:54
kaani get this error17:54
kaanE: Type 'http://phpeclipse.sourceforge.net/update/releaseshttp://phpeclipse.sourceforge.net/update/releases/' is not known on line 50 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list17:54
kaanthats what i tried to add in there17:54
kaanhow do i get rid of it now?17:54
ArM-eyeamon-ra everyone17:54
jpatrick!abkn ArM-eye17:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about abkn arm-eye - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:55
phoenixzPicachoo, yeah, look on google as well for kiosktool.. IIRC it should let you configure these things17:55
boubbinhow to use kde4's konsole in kde3.5.8 ?17:55
boubbinwhere can i find the app ?17:55
kaanhow can i delete that line from adept configuration17:55
vigge_sWenothing happened17:55
phoenixzkaan, sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list17:55
ra3eT{}kak da vlqza v kanal sexy17:55
jpatrick!en | ra3eT{}17:56
ubotura3eT{}: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat17:56
mefisto__kaan: or sudo nano, if vim confuses you17:56
jpatrick!guidelines > ra3eT{}17:56
kaanokay how do i save this file now17:56
ra3eT{}kak da vlqza v17:57
phoenixzkaan, <esc> :x17:57
ra3eT{}v kanal sexy-17:57
jpatrick!pl | ra3eT{}17:57
ubotura3eT{}: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl17:57
vigge_sWeI still can't open httpd.conf as root17:57
phoenixzvigge_sWe, "nothing happens" ? What exactly happens?17:57
abortdphoenixz: Wrong chipset detected. 915resolution only works with Intel 800/900 series graic chipsets.17:58
vigge_sWeyes nothing, I write that in the terminal and nothing happens17:58
kaanokay i edited out that line17:58
phoenixzkaan, what mefisto__ says, if vim is too complex, use nano, its easier17:58
kaanhow do i save this config file now17:58
phoenixzabortd, lspci | grep VGA, what does that tell you?17:58
arcticpenguin380do i need to run fsck if i see recovering journal?17:58
kaanim still in the terminal in the file17:58
phoenixzkaan, <esc> :q <enter>17:58
abortdlspci | grep VGA17:58
abortdone sec17:59
abortd02:03.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5500] (rev a1)17:59
phoenixzabortd, means you have an NVidia vga card..   mmmm...17:59
abortdthat good or bad?17:59
phoenixzabortd, good actually, best drivers.. but Im thinking about how to fix this res problem easily18:00
kaanit says trailing characters :S18:00
kaanwhen i  do <esc> :q <enter>18:00
phoenixzall: Battery empty, got to put my laptop on charger... BRB18:00
nosrednaekimkaan➜ :x to save18:00
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encrypt128bitcan anyone help me? Im trying to install ubuntu from my hard disk, and im in the installation screen. But it keeps asking to detect and mount the CD-ROM for the files. How can i tell the installer to look for the ISO file on my fat32 hard disk?18:03
Picachoohow to do if i wan a service to moniter the time for which the pc is Onn. complete logs auto started on logon and log file not editable by the user, but me. ?18:03
nosrednaekimencrypt128bit➜ hrm, you'd have to mount it as a squash FS I think.18:04
nosrednaekimPicachoo➜ use uptimed18:04
encrypt128bitnosrednaekim: what do you mean?18:05
nosrednaekimencrypt128bit➜ well, its rather complicated, why not just burn a CD?18:05
phoenixzPicachoo, but I think you're talking about the uptime of the terminals, not?18:05
abortdphoenixz: figure anything out?18:06
phoenixz!resolution | abortd18:06
ubotuabortd: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto18:06
encrypt128bitnosrednaekim: every time i burn to a cd i get a corrupt cd that doesnt isntall, hence im trying to install via my fat32 partition18:06
Picachoophoenixz the time the system on powered onn.18:06
nosrednaekimphoenixz➜ did you install the nvidia drivers yet?18:06
da_didi I just removed the KDE from the taskbar - how can I undo this?18:07
phoenixznosrednaekim, me? That'd be cool but it would cause this little problem, because I have an I945 chipset...18:07
nosrednaekimencrypt128bit➜ is the download, the actual file, corrupted?18:07
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu18:07
mefisto__da_didi: you mean the k menu?18:07
phoenixzda_didi, the KDE menu button is an applet.. on the desktop press right mouse button, and select add applet18:07
da_didiperfect, i will try.. thanks18:07
phoenixzda_didi, sorry, you're talking about kde4 or kde3??18:07
nosrednaekimphoenixz➜ I mean abortd... sorry18:07
encrypt128bitnosrednaekim: nothing is acutally corrupted. i checked the MD5 on the iso file and I checked the cd integrity of using the ubuntu installer, but it finds nothing wrong18:07
da_didiit is kde418:08
phoenixzda_didi, then what I said applies :)18:08
nosrednaekimencrypt128bit➜ odd, what does it fail on?18:08
da_didiperfect.. i try it later.. have to go.. thanks guys18:08
Picachooso by default . linux records all logs. uptimes. and the time the system is powered onn.?18:08
nosrednaekimPicachoo➜ yes18:09
phoenixz  Picachoo yeah, you can find lots of that info in the /proc dir, which gives you info right from the kernel..18:09
arcticpenguin380will kubuntu run faster if i get 2GBs of ram?18:09
encrypt128bitnosrednaekim: well the first message i get is that method cdrom died unexpectedly. and then pkgskl failed with error code 1 or something like that18:09
kaanthis adept manager is really faulty!!!!18:10
kaanwhys this happening now18:10
Stonkihello, I just got a new monitor. Using KDE Tools it's a pain in the ass to modify the xorg.conf that I can use 1900x1600 pixel. Any recommendation for a good setup tool or do I have to edit xorg.conf manually ?18:10
kaanThere was an error committing changes. There was possibly a problem downloading some packages, or else the commit would break packages.18:10
nosrednaekimencrypt128bit➜ thats weird....so how are you installing(or trying to) now?18:10
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encrypt128bitnosrednaekim: heres the actual message: E: Method cdrom has died unexpectedly, menu item pkgsel failed with error code 118:10
encrypt128bitnosrednaekim: im trying to install with the alternate cd18:11
nosrednaekimStonki➜ sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg18:11
frank32arcticpenguin380: from 1GB to 2 GB? I don't think it will make any difference unless you use RAM heavy applications18:11
nosrednaekimencrypt128bit➜ and its saying it can't detect the CDrom in the live installer?18:11
nosrednaekimsorry, alternate18:11
encrypt128bitnosrednaekim: No, its not saying that18:12
nosrednaekimencrypt128bit➜ so whats the problem in the alternate instalelr?18:12
coreymon77nosrednaekim: whats with the arrow?18:13
encrypt128bitnosrednaekim: take a look at this, this is my original problem. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4310348#post431034818:13
hemanathanhow to set the port speed for the bluetooth modem18:13
coreymon77nosrednaekim: whatever happened to using a :?18:13
nosrednaekimcoreymon77➜ cool ain't it? sub[t]rnl started it :)18:13
phoenixznosrednaekim, indeed it is.. Howto?18:13
nosrednaekimphoenixz➜ are you using konversation18:14
phoenixznosrednaekim, xchat..18:14
phoenixzbut willing to give it a try :)18:14
coreymon77im a traditionalist for this18:14
hemanathanhow to set the port speed for the bluetooth modem18:14
hemanathanhow to set the port speed for the bluetooth modem anyone tell me ya18:14
mefisto__kaan: in adept, go to "manage repositories" and try changing to a different server where it says "download from"18:15
Stonkinosrednaekim : thanks ! it works18:15
phoenixzhemanathan, I doubt that with that attitude anyone will help ya...18:15
mefisto__kaan: and while you're there, make sure "universe" is ticked18:15
phoenixzhemanathan, a little patience will help you a lot more..18:15
nosrednaekimphoenixz➜ don't know how to do it there18:16
hemanathanphoenixz: ok ya i'll wait18:16
nosrednaekimencrypt128bit➜ looking, thanks18:16
coreymon77meh, i just uncomment the repositories directly in my sources.lis18:16
coreymon77its much easier18:16
encrypt128bitnosrednaekim: thank you, your the first person to actually look into helping with this problem =P18:16
Picachoophoenixz so i can find full logs for all the month. full details in /proc?18:16
phoenixzPicachoo, sorry, my bad.. :) full logs are found in /var/log.. files in /proc gives you runtime info..18:17
unagianyone know a reason why the battery monitor doesnt show up in my tray anyomre?18:17
phoenixzhemanathan, and for the record, I'd like to help but I don't have the answer, sorry18:17
* coreymon77 hands Picachoo a kleenex18:17
hemanathanphoenixz: ask someone else and help me18:18
coreymon77!attitude | hemanathan18:18
ubotuhemanathan: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines18:18
mefisto__Picachoo: there's also ksystemlog if you want a gui (but I don't know which logs it shows you)18:18
nosrednaekimencrypt128bit➜ I too think your CD is corrupt, despite the MD5 sums. did you try booting the live installer in safe graphics mode?18:18
ForgeAushey Cory :)18:18
encrypt128bitnosrednaekim: Yes, when i boot into the livecd however i have to use acpi=off or it doesnt work18:18
nosrednaekimencrypt128bit➜ so safe graphics mode also doesn't work?18:19
encrypt128bitnosrednaekim: i havent tried safe graphics mode. but when in the live cd installer using acpi=off the installer crashes or the system freezes18:19
nosrednaekimencrypt128bit➜ try safe graphics mode with ACPI on.18:20
encrypt128bitnosrednaekim: im pretty sure its gonna just crash but i'll give it a try. rebooting the machine. sec18:21
prince_jammysencrypt128bit: sometimes cd burn speed is an issue18:21
hemanathanhow to set the port speed for the bluetooth modem18:21
encrypt128bitprince_jammys: i know, i burned the alternate cd at 4x18:21
prince_jammysencrypt128bit: ok18:21
hemanathanhow to change the port speed for the bluetooth modem18:23
nosrednaekimencrypt128bit➜ are you on another computer right now?18:23
Picachoophoenixz mefisto__ thx18:23
encrypt128bitnosrednaekim: yea i have a laptop next to my desktop18:23
nosrednaekimalright,... that certainly makes things easier18:24
hemanathanhow to change the port speed for the bluetooth modem18:25
Sbucatsomeone knows how to install opera with flash plug in ?18:25
encrypt128bitnosrednaekim: the live cd just went all glitchy without acpi=off and froze18:25
hemanathan anyone tell something18:25
mefisto__be patient hemanathan18:25
nosrednaekimencrypt128bit➜ ok... see, you have a p4, so its probably overheating without ACPI18:26
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup18:26
phoenixzhemanathan, if nobody tells you that might mean that the people here don't know..  You could try google, you could also try the #ubuntu channel.. and patience.. :)18:26
abortdis fat32 easy to mount?18:26
abortda partition18:26
phoenixz!bluetooth | hemanathan18:26
ubotuhemanathan: please see above18:26
nosrednaekimabortd➜ yes18:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:26
encrypt128bitYea, but shouldnt the alternate cd work just fine?18:26
phoenixz!suspend | LukeLM18:26
unagianyone know a reason why the battery monitor doesnt show up in my tray anyomre?18:27
abortdnosrednaekim: how is it done?18:27
neorej_ok guys, wish me luck now! otherwise i need ya knowledge all =p18:27
phoenixzunagi, it was probably shutdown for some reason.. Try restarting it18:27
neorej_cunt wireless18:27
nosrednaekimencrypt128bit➜ yeah... it should, but sometimes things just don't work like they should. do you have a 1GB us dongle?18:27
phoenixz!language | neorej_18:27
ubotuneorej_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.18:27
encrypt128bitnosrednaekim: you mean a flash drive? yes18:27
neorej_don't take it personal phoenixz, i was just talking to some wireless device =/18:28
unagiphoenixz: it never shows up anymore18:28
Picachooif someone uses a flashdrive having .txt files and ms office files likc .doc and .xls . but i have open office installed on linux. will it make any compatibility problems or damage them if kate or open office is used? or the will work fine and can be re used by windows again?18:28
abortd# sudo mkdir -p /media/d18:28
abortd # sudo mount -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000 /dev/hda1 /media/d18:28
abortdis that how it should be?18:28
nosrednaekimencrypt128bit➜ Let me find the guide that says how to install off of that.18:28
mefisto__Picachoo: I've heard that editing and saving .doc files in openoffice multiple times can corrupt the document. but I do it all the time and have never had a problem18:29
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nosrednaekimabortd➜ no need for all that complicated stuff, "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/d" will do it just fine18:31
MrJigsawehm.. when i downloadet a .deb package, how is it i install it ?18:32
MrJigsawi used wget <link> :)18:32
llutzsudo dpkg -i package.deb18:32
nosrednaekimencrypt128bit➜ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick18:32
Picachoo can linux run all video/audio formats (after installing free available codecs)  that windows can run. .mpg .dat .avi .mp3 ?18:33
MrJigsawVLC can :-)18:33
MrJigsawi guess koffeine can too18:33
trappistPicachoo: it can play anything you've got a codec for, if that's your question18:33
unagianyone know a reason why the battery monitor doesnt show up in my tray anyomre?18:33
nosrednaekimencrypt128bit➜ meh... apparently, you have to do it with linx...18:33
benji__qq1 peux m'aider plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz18:34
nosrednaekimunagi➜ run "guidance-power-manager"18:34
jussi01!fr | benji__18:34
ubotubenji__: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.18:34
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots18:34
encrypt128bitnosrednaekim: huh?18:34
mefisto__Picachoo: you need to install "non-free" codecs to get everything to work in kaffeine, etc18:34
nosrednaekimencrypt128bit➜ in order to make the bootable flash drive, you need to have linux already installed, unless I can find another guide.18:35
encrypt128bitnosrednaekim: cant i just use a live cd without acpi on and do it quickly?18:35
nosrednaekimencrypt128bit➜ nah... it probably takes a while.18:36
nosrednaekimencrypt128bit➜ but you could put the liveCD in your laptop and do it from there.18:36
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »18:36
CrashedHey guys, I'm about to install XP on this machine which is currently running Kubuntu.18:36
encrypt128bitnosrednaekim: that would work, the live cd works on the laptop without a problem18:36
CrashedIf I remember correctly, XP isn't too mind on multi-os systems.18:37
CrashedWhat should I do to ensure that both Kubuntu and XP run fine?18:37
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots18:37
nosrednaekimencrypt128bit➜ ok, and network works on the laptop witht he liveCD?18:37
mefisto__that aptfix thing would make a handy alias18:37
jussi01!it | doris18:37
nosrednaekimCrashed➜ well, you are going to have to fix the grub boot loader.18:37
ubotudoris: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!18:37
encrypt128bitnosrednaekim: my wireless network? yea18:37
nosrednaekim!grub | Crashed18:37
ubotuCrashed: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto18:37
nosrednaekimencrypt128bit➜ ok, then just use that.18:38
CrashedAh, nice nosrednaekim.18:38
nosrednaekimCrashed➜ hows linux going BTW?18:38
mefisto__Crashed: don't use your windows partitions in linux if they are dirty (ie, not shutdown properly in windows).18:39
Crashednosrednaekim: I'm loving it so much that I'm not going to wipe kubuntu, I'm gonna use both.18:39
Crashedmefisto: don't use the windows partition in linux? I'm going to have two partitions, one for each.18:39
CrashedI got CS 1.6 working in WINE perfectly. :]18:40
nosrednaekimCrashed➜ cool, but remember that windows has to be installed to the first partition on the disk.18:40
CrashedCounter Strike.18:40
nosrednaekimah... sweet.18:40
mefisto__Crashed: if windows doesn't shut down properly, then you boot into linux and use the windows partitions, they can screw things up in windows later18:40
CrashedWhat do you mean by use the windows partitions, mefisto?18:41
CrashedLike while in linux, go through the files and folders that're in my windows partition?18:41
nosrednaekimCrashed➜ look at them from within linux18:41
CrashedAh. I didn't even know you could do that. :)18:41
CrashedGreat tip, thanks.18:41
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Picachoo if i have 10 clients. can i shut them (turn off) them by sitting on server?18:42
LukeLMCrashed did your cable go out this  morning?18:42
mefisto__Crashed: if you don't mount your windows partition in linux at all, then there's nothing to worry about18:42
nosrednaekimCrashed➜ its normally perfectly safe, but its only dangerous when you haven't shut down windows properly.18:42
LukeLMBest bet if windows crashes you should boot into windows first before linux18:43
mefisto__dangerous for windows. linux will still read the disks just fine18:43
CrashedLukeLM: I wouldn't think so. I was on at around 7 AM this morning, it was fine. And one of my torrents completed by the time I got home.18:43
LukeLMAh, I just noticed you were using rogers like me...18:43
LukeLMMine was out for an hour earlier18:43
CrashedRogers has pretty good uptime.18:44
mefisto__Crashed: you were having problems with ktorrent stopping, right?18:44
nosrednaekimencrypt128bit➜ did I ever get you that link?18:44
CrashedOne thing I don't like about Kubuntu is that my torrents seem to be *way* slower.18:44
nosrednaekimmaybe you don't have the settings right18:45
LukeLMPerhaps your ports aren't open18:45
CrashedOn Windows I'd be able to get 2 or 3 torrents going 100+ KB/s. On Kubuntu, if I have two torrents going at the same time they'll hardly ever pass 10 KB/s.18:45
CrashedI left 3 torrents on overnight and they completed like 5%.18:45
frank32Crashed: what torrent program did you use in windows/linux?18:45
CrashedI left one on before I went to school this morning and it completed 60% or so.18:45
phoenixznosrednaekim, about the arrow thing.. How do I do that in konversation?18:45
CrashedAnd uTorrent for windows.18:46
frank32Crashed: some programs might be better at avoiding ISP throttling18:46
mefisto__Crashed: both are using the same ports?18:46
nosrednaekimphoenixz➜ configure konversation->general->nickname completetion->suffix18:46
LukeLMCrashed when you use Ktorrent does the icon in the bottom left say the ports are open?18:46
Crashedmefisto: I wouldn't know, I don't tinker with the ports.18:46
CrashedI don't see any icons.18:47
nosrednaekimCrashed➜ the systray icon18:47
nosrednaekimphoenixz➜ copy my arrow and paste it in there.18:47
CrashedI have 6 icons there: Volume, Clipboard, KTorrent, Wallet, Konversation, and Kopete.18:48
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »18:48
LukeLMCrashed do you use a router to share you internet?18:49
CrashedI do not.18:49
CrashedStraight cable modem.18:49
phoenixznosrednaekim, sweeet.. I have to switch to konversation anyway18:49
GSF1200SI have an issue with hibernate corrupting my swap when I try it, any ideas?18:49
nosrednaekimGSF1200S»corrupting your swap? never heard of corrupt swap.18:49
LukeLMCrashed: What about a firewall in linux?18:50
GSF1200Sill try to hibernate, and it will fail- I have to hard power down. When I reboot, conky tells me I dont have a swap18:50
CrashedNot that I know of, Luke.18:50
CrashedI haven't touched any sort of firewall or any app that would block ports since I installed Kubuntu a few days ago.18:50
nosrednaekimGSF1200S » yet on a ANOTHER reboot, you do have swap?18:51
LukeLMWeird, I usually get the same speed as in windows with utorrent/ktorrent18:51
GSF1200Sthen i have to cd /dev/disk/by-uuid, sudo mkswap /dev/sda2, sudo swapon /dev/sda218:51
GSF1200Sand change the uuid in fstab18:51
CrashedKTorrent is also weird on its Time Left status.18:51
GSF1200Si dont know.. havent tried rebooting twice18:52
nosrednaekimGSF1200S » it changes the UUID?18:52
CrashedIt says 22 hours to go, but in reality it should say maybe 1.5 hours approximately.18:52
GSF1200S'mkswap changes the uuid18:52
LukeLMCrashed: In the settings there is different ETA algorythms it can use, you can try different ones out18:52
nosrednaekimGSF1200S » try doing a clean reboot. after the unclean one18:52
frank32Crashed: alot of people use the deluge client for torrents. you could try that one18:52
sub[t]rnlCrashed➜ try enabling both options in the encryption settings under General options.  And of course forward ports if you behind a router.18:52
GSF1200Seven if that works, what would cause hibernate to do this to the swap.18:52
jetsaredimis anyone able to get flash working with firefox3?18:53
LukeLMI didn't even know about firefox3 =)18:53
CrashedOkay, changed algorithm and set the encryption settings.18:53
jetsaredimLukeLM: you can install it parallel to firefox218:54
ScorpKingfirefox3 is still beta i think ;)18:54
CrashedI'm actually getting a pretty good speed increase from that :)18:54
nosrednaekimsub[t]rnl » I decided to stop coying you..18:54
CrashedWould I be able to partition this HDD and still use Konversation? <:)18:55
jetsaredimyea - it seems a great deal better than ff2, but for some reason I can't get the flashplugin package to recognize ff318:55
LukeLMCrashed, yeah Rogers is a leading ISP in bit torrent traffic throttling. you gotta do all you can to get any speed ^^18:55
jetsaredimi know i've had flash working in previous versions of ff318:55
sub[t]rnlCrashed➜ heres a page to give you an idea of how to setup everything else for speed increases http://infinite-source.de/az/az-calc.html18:55
CrashedReally sub? I wouldn't never guessed. I get rather good speeds on torrents.18:56
nosrednaekimCrashed » no, partitioning would have to be done from a liveCD.... well I guess you could talk from the liveCD18:56
CrashedI think I have a 3MBit or 4MBit connection, and I can get 500 KB/s or more on torrents.18:56
JoshOvkiMy torrent downloads always seem slower in kubuntu than windblows18:56
lg188JoshOvki:  XD18:57
JoshOvkilegal torrent ofcourse 8-)18:57
LukeLMCrashed yeah the download is usually alright but the upload is really bad i find.. and afterall torrents are about sharing ^^18:57
CrashedI'm gonna be honest, I don't upload much :P18:58
JoshOvkitutut Crashed :P18:58
CrashedWhen I do try to upload, I do notice that the speeds aren't great. But my upload isn't great either.18:58
JoshOvkimy  torrent rule is upload itself and a half18:58
lg188need o go europa18:58
CrashedWell, my rule used to be only keep uTorrent up as long as it has to be up. When you run an ancient machine, you'll want to save those kilobytes and megabytes of ram.18:58
CrashedAlright, any tips I should know before partitioning my drive?18:59
JoshOvkiCrashed: Fair enough if you run an old cronk of a machine, mine is half decent so i dont usualy have to worrie about it18:59
nosrednaekimCrashed » be careful :)18:59
JoshOvkiand backup anything that is on it18:59
nosrednaekimCrashed » oh yeah... and don't screw up.19:00
LukeLMCrashed you have a Linux LiveCD right/19:00
CrashedYes I do.19:00
unagihow do i remove gnome?19:00
ubotupurekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »19:00
CrashedThank god for that, or I wouldn't have had an operating system for a few days (new pc, no os? :()19:00
nosrednaekimuntil he went out and *ahem* bought*ahem* XP19:00
=== ubuntu is now known as Kubuntu
JoshOvkiCrashed: make sure you know exactly what you want before you do it19:00
Crashednosred: I didn't buy this one, but it's legit :P19:00
CrashedFriends are cool, right?19:01
ubotugnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.19:01
nosrednaekimright.... your uncle's brother... I gotcha ;)19:01
mefisto__Crashed: birthday present? :P19:01
CrashedAh cool, I was getting <50 KB/s on that torrent before I did toggled those speed-killing settings.19:02
CrashedFloating on 180 to 200 now.19:02
JoshOvkiWell every version of XP is legit. Someone had to buy it at some point19:02
CrashedI don't want to partition now. :(19:02
CrashedUploading at 40 KB/s too. Highest I've ever seen.19:02
LukeLMScrew Microsoft :P19:03
JoshOvkiGoogle are worth nearly as much as M$19:03
=== magical_trevsky is now known as MRDANGER
JoshOvkionly 70 Billion in it19:03
sub[t]rnli'm on a good line, I usually keep seeding at least 2 or 3 torrents at 300kb's. http://www.speedtest.net/sult/234039433.png <-- this is with me seeding19:03
Tm_TJoshOvki: see topic19:04
Tm_Tsame to you all ;)19:04
sub[t]rnlwww.speedtest.net/result/234039433.png even19:04
CrashedAwesome connection.19:04
JoshOvkioh yeh i have a question. When ever i click a link in konversation it trys to open in konqueror, but it thinks about it for a while then closes19:04
LukeLMWe're just passing the time inbetween people's help questions :P19:04
Tm_TLukeLM: still19:05
nosrednaekimJoshOvki » do you use konqueror or firefox?19:05
CrashedWhen I'm exploring /media/cdrom0, does it take time to find the files and folders?19:05
CrashedOr should it be instant?19:05
nosrednaekimCrashed » cd drives are slow.... it should be slower19:05
JoshOvkinosrednaekim: both which ever one my mouse hits first usualy19:05
vigge_sWehow do I use "root? in konsole?19:06
nosrednaekimJoshOvki » well, I 've found it works better if you tell konversation to use firefox.19:06
SlimeyPetevigge_sWe: prefix the command with "sudo"19:06
nosrednaekimvigge_sWe » sudo -i19:06
JoshOvkinosrednaekim: tar, i shall do so now19:06
Crashed250 KB/s. I am drooling now. :)19:06
vigge_sWeso I should type sudo aptitude install libapache2-mod-php5 to enable php under apache?19:06
SlimeyPetevigge_sWe: there is no proper "root" account in kubuntu, by default19:06
CrashedSure beats the 5.5 KB/s I was getting before.19:06
Lorvijahttp://www.speedtest.net/result/234041988.png <-- just had to compare my connection when i saw that link :P19:06
SlimeyPetevigge_sWe: yes19:06
nosrednaekimCrashed » that better than windows?19:06
Crashednosred: no :P19:06
CrashedIt's on par.19:06
nosrednaekim!tab | Crashed➜19:07
ubotuCrashed➜: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.19:07
LorvijaThough my wlan connection prolly slowed that test down :E19:07
CrashedLorvija: who are you stealing internet from?19:07
frank32Crashed: what did you do to get faster speed?19:07
CrashedI turned on the encryption settings.19:07
CrashedIn the General tab.19:07
frank32Crashed: ok19:07
Crashednos: I know about tab, I'm just used to not using it.19:07
LorvijaCrashed nah noone.. just using my uni wlan.. i live so close to it (: i got ~12dbi disk outside on the balcony (:19:07
frank32Crashed: you can blame your ISP for that one19:07
nosrednaekimlazy <_<19:07
Crashedfrank: sure can.19:08
CrashedHey, get a name with less characters norednaekim19:08
Tm_TCrashed: be nice ;)19:08
Tm_T!tab | Crashed19:08
ubotuCrashed: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.19:08
neohej little question, what do i have to install to get a fake uploader for my azureus?!19:08
nosrednaekimok... later all, good luck Crashed with your partitioning19:08
CrashedThanks a lot nos, bye.19:08
Tm_Tnosrednaekim: see ya!19:08
CrashedI'd show you guys my awesome 350 KB/s download speed (nearly 100x faster what I was gettign earlier), but the torrents I'm downloading... not-safe-for-freenode.19:09
unagi anyone know an easy way to remove ubuntu?19:09
nosrednaekimCrashed » haha, thats a very common complaint.19:09
Tm_Tunagi: reformat partition?19:10
JoshOvkiunagi:  sudo apt-get autoremove ubuntu-desktop     should do it19:10
CrashedI went and watched the movie... now I want a software copy. >_>19:10
unagiPackage ubuntu-desktop is not installed, so not removed19:10
Tm_TCrashed: I bet it's sold in local store too19:10
frank32Crashed: you can also enable DHT in Ktorrent to get more peers. I think DHT is the azureus perr-sharing network19:10
CrashedOoh, good to know frank.19:11
Tm_TCrashed: anyway, piratism isn't a topic here19:11
mefisto__unagi: the PUREKDE link didn't help?19:11
ubotupurekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »19:11
Tm_T!o4o | Crashed19:12
ubotuCrashed: Some things are inappropriate for #kubuntu. Controversial topics, which always turn into flamewars: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space or time travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.19:12
MrJigsawWhat app do you guys use to encrypt harddrives ?19:12
kingi have a ati 1800 xt and sucessfull installed the driver from the homepage.so when i start compiz he sys no xgl what can i do19:13
neohej little question, what do i have to install to get a fake uploader for my azureus?!19:13
=== sven_oostenbrink is now known as phoenixz
neoyeah you know, something to keep your ratio in good shape by sending out fake upload19:13
unagiim trying it now19:14
JoshOvkineo: why not do real upload?19:14
Tm_Tyou're going to offtopic way too much19:15
CrashedThanks, your tips speed up my speed a bunch: http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/2019/snapshot2ng7.png19:15
neowhy is not important, i just need the tool =)19:15
JoshOvkiTm_T: its not offtopic, its suggesting a reasonable solution to keep his ratio in order :)19:16
* JoshOvki mutters about leaches19:16
Tm_TJoshOvki: see topic, that is NOT kubuntu issue, then it's offtopic19:16
xavyHi, pls help, I dont have icon for free driver :(19:16
xavyand my english isnt good :)19:17
=== frank32 is now known as frank23
CrashedSorry again Tm, it's my fault.19:17
CrashedI go off topic a lot.19:17
Tm_TCrashed: no it's not ;)19:17
* JoshOvki admits defeat and goes back into corner still muttering about leachers19:17
default_pDo power users use Dolphin for file management?19:17
Tm_Tdefault_p: some does, not me19:17
default_pcan Konqueror be used?19:18
default_pTm_T: which one do you use19:18
prince_jammysdefault_p: i use it, dont like dolphin19:18
Tm_TKonqueror when I do use GUI, but Konsole (bash) <319:18
default_phow do I select Konq?19:18
ubotuDolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.19:18
prince_jammysgo konq19:19
default_pok cool.  thanks19:19
ubotuDolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.19:19
Crashedtime to partition.19:19
default_pdolphin is a bit toyish and Konq allows window size saves19:19
LukeLMgood luck crashed19:20
mefisto__konqueror always reverses the file list order for me. other than that, it's almost perfect19:20
abortdcan anyone tell me what the fastest ubuntu update server is?19:21
Tm_Tabortd: there's no one19:21
ubuntui did it19:22
mefisto__abortd: usually the closest to you geographically, but try different ones and see19:22
dorkfaceHi all.  I was wondering; do the official repositories usually have the latest version of java, or is it like wine, where the official tends to have older versions, and one has to include another source in apt-get, to get the LATEST wine?19:23
Tm_TIIRC java and wine are both ~uptodate if not the same day then the next if possible19:24
LukeLMI know wine isn't because I just added the wine servers to my sources.list yesterday to get the latset =)19:25
LukeLMNo clue about Java19:25
CrashedIt isn't possible to resize a partition?19:26
CrashedQParted isn't letting me resize my linux partition.19:26
LukeLMNot while it's mounted19:26
default_pubotu: worked great thanks.19:27
CrashedI'm running from the livecd :(19:27
CrashedIt says hda1 is active. Not cool.19:27
MrJigsawWhat app do you guys use to encrypt harddrives ?19:27
frank23dorkface: Tm_T:  wine isn't updated in the ubuntu repositories within a release and kava is probably not either. It's the same for (almost) everyother program19:27
JoshOvkidefault_p it was LukeLM who told ubotu to tell you (ubotu is a bot)19:27
CrashedHell, I should just erase Kubuntu19:28
CrashedInstall XP, then install kubuntu again.19:28
default_pnext lamer question.  Is there a process lister so as to kill processes19:28
default_pok thanks Luke19:28
dorkfacefrank23: ah, thank you19:28
CrashedCTRL + ESCAPE, default_p.19:28
LukeLMit was actually Tm_T thank him19:28
JoshOvkiCrashed   sudo umount \dev\hda119:28
JoshOvkishould unmount it for you19:28
Crashedunmount is an unrecognized command.19:29
CrashedOh, umount.19:29
mefisto__forward slash, JoshOvki19:29
Crashedhda1 not mounted. >_>19:29
frank23dorkface: basically every version of ubuntu sticks with it's version of programs.19:29
CrashedQParted says it's 'Active'19:29
JoshOvkitry  /dev/hda1   cause i cant type.    (thanks mefisto)19:29
CrashedI did do /dev/hda1.19:30
JoshOvkiok :)19:30
dorkfacefrank23: Yeah, the problem now is trying to find the servers with the latest version,  google, ahoy!19:30
CrashedI'll stick to XP, then Kubuntu. Will make things easier.19:30
LukeLMCrashed, try an apt-get install gparted first19:30
default_pnext lamer question.  How can I unrar?19:30
LukeLMI've had better luck with gparted over qtparted19:31
prince_jammysdefault_p: ps ax19:31
Picachoois kiosk in kubuntu ?19:31
frank23dorkface: yeah... but basically the way to go is to not update to the latest version unless you really need it. for wine, you can use their ubuntu repository19:31
Picachoopre installed?19:31
prince_jammysdefault_p: just use "unrar" -- do "man unrar" for a few options19:31
mefisto__Crashed: right-click the active partition in qtparted, and make it not active19:32
CrashedWhat's this linux-swap stuff?19:32
CrashedIt's eating up 1.6GB.19:32
prince_jammysCrashed extra memory supplements RAM19:32
default_pprince_jammys: ok thx again.  no rar lists were coming up in repository adept.19:32
prince_jammysCrashed: 1.6 GB??19:33
default_pdid it cli install and it's installing19:33
CrashedYes sir.19:33
CrashedDoes it have to use 1.6GB? I mean, wouldn't like 500MB be fine?19:33
LukeLMcrashed, I usually allocate 1.5* my ram to swap usage19:34
prince_jammysCrashed: no thats good19:34
mefisto__does it hurt performance if swap partition is bigger than necessary?19:34
CrashedMy HDD isn't that big.19:34
Crashed40 gigs for XP and Kubuntu.19:34
* JoshOvki is going to the cinema. Bye bye all19:34
LukeLMHow much ram do you have?19:34
default_pI'm starting to feel sad for Microsoft.19:34
mefisto__default_p: they brought it upon themselves19:35
CrashedOkay you know what, I'm installing XP over Kubuntu. This is gonna make things so much easier.19:35
CrashedXP first, Kubuntu second. Life is smooth.19:35
LukeLMIf you use a 768mb swap, or even 512 if you feel like it.. just be ram weary about things19:35
LukeLMCrashed did you try unchecking the active flag on your hda1?19:36
CrashedYep, did that in Gparted.19:36
CrashedBut I still want to install XP first.19:36
Picachoo what apps should a good net cafe have, from your point of view?19:37
david_what's join unbuntu in Spanish?19:37
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.19:37
CrashedIs it right that it took 10 seconds to delete an extention and a partition, and to format it to NTFS?19:37
prince_jammysCrashed: you mean too short?19:37
oblivionanyone know how to setup gutsy to host a website?19:38
CrashedYeah, that seems like it didn't take enough time.19:38
LukeLMCrashed you have to commit the changes before it actually does it19:38
frank23Crashed: I don't think linux can format in NTFS, the windows installer will have to do the formatig19:38
CrashedI applied it, Luke. :P19:38
prince_jammysCrashed: it does that stuff pretty fast, its the moving resizing that takes a long time19:38
CrashedAlright cool. Thanks a lot guys.19:38
=== default_p is now known as BillGatesThe3rd
LukeLMCrashed wait19:38
LukeLMWhen you're reinstalling kubuntu don't do the auto create partitions or else you will have a 1.6GB swap again19:39
unagii accidently uninstalled pidgin and its still running19:39
LukeLMDo a manual setup =) and choose how much you'd like19:39
CrashedManual partitions, with GParted. Alright. Good tip.19:39
CrashedAnything else?19:39
unagiLukeLM: what happens when you have more than one swap partition19:39
LukeLMI guess that's all, good luck.19:39
oblivionanyone know how to setup gutsy to host a website?19:39
CrashedTo the world of windows! But not for long ;)19:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about website - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:40
jussi01!lamp | oblivion19:40
ubotuoblivion: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)19:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hosting - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:40
unagiLukeLM: ??19:40
LukeLMunagi, What do you mean. you have two partitions/19:40
oblivioni have done installed all of that but i dont know how to configure for DNS or zone files or anything19:40
unagii have 4 LukeLM19:41
ubotuDNS is an acronym for Domain Name System, and is an internet system used to translate names into IP Address.19:41
LukeLM4 Swap partitions? that seems a bit overkill19:41
LukeLMHow many MB total?19:41
mefisto__more than one swap partition is useless, isn't it?19:41
ubuntuit haven't .ru keys by default19:41
BillGatesThe3rdWhich webbrowser is of choice?19:41
unagijust under 3 gigs each19:41
prince_jammysoblivion: probably not the right place for all that info -- i would try the apt-cache for a tutorial/ebook19:42
unagigparted only has a lock on one of them19:42
unagiis that the one that is needed?19:42
jacksterhmm, KDE seems to have started making little noises when notification windows pop up and close, any idea how to stop them?19:42
prince_jammysoblivion: also the ubuntu-server guide online19:42
unagiLukeLM: sorry i didnt say ur name but did u see those?19:43
=== MartinCleave1 is now known as MartinCleaver
LukeLMunagi,yeah. I'm trying to remember what you're trying to do19:43
prince_jammysjackster somewhere in system-settings(or kcontrol).  if you have kcontrol, then search "notification"19:43
LukeLMugani What were you trying to do again?19:44
jacksterthanks prince_jammys19:44
prince_jammysjackster: no prob, it was pretty vague but i know its in there19:44
jacksteractually no it doesn't seem to just be notifications, it seems to be every window when it's either opened or closed it makes a little noise19:45
jacksterlike those old themes you could set in Windows 98 :-D19:45
jacksterit was fun 10 years ago, not so much now19:45
jacksterand it doesn't seem like you can change that from inside the Notifications area :(19:46
mefisto__jackster: did you do the "turn off all sounds" thing?19:47
prince_jammysjackster: i have the old kcontrol and it's under system notifications , event source:the kde window manager.   if you have the newer system-settings it should be in there19:48
=== MRDANGER is now known as magical
ScorpKingi'm trying to mount a nfs disk from a livecd with sudo mount -t nfs /mnt/ but i get "wrong fs type or bad option". what am i doing wrong?19:59
kingcan you help me with compiz please?20:00
mefisto__ScorpKing: just a guess, maybe that last / after mnt ?20:06
ScorpKinghmm.. could be20:07
neoanyone knows how to install shu mod on azureus?20:07
ScorpKingmefisto__: nope20:07
tertiusHi guys20:07
tertiusi've install vncserver using apt-get for kubuntu20:07
tertiushow do i start it up and connect from windows to it20:08
ubotuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX20:08
neo!shu mod20:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about shu mod - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:09
MrJigsawWhat app do you guys use to encrypt harddrives ?20:09
anon32do *you* want 5MB/s transfer rates? :-P20:10
mefisto__ScorpKing: what about leaving out the -t nfs ?20:12
ScorpKingmefisto__: no luck either. one sec20:13
zkyjoeanyone who might have some time to help me with some kubuntuproblems please msg me20:16
ScorpKing!ask | zkyjoe20:17
ubotuzkyjoe: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)20:17
Ayabaraanyone know how I can upgrade the intel wireless drivers on ubuntu? there seems to be a problem with the supplied drivers and my AG 4965 card20:18
zkyjoeI'm experiencing that nethack loads when I start it, but won't start. I've tried to restart it about 200 times and reinstall it a few times. Anyone have any ideas how I can fix nethack?20:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ksmserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:21
LynoureAyabara: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/16768 seems to tell you...20:21
tertiushi guys20:22
tertiusis there a apt-get for vmware server?20:22
ScorpKingtertius: yes20:23
AyabaraLynoure, thanks. I was actually on that link already. I started to install the deb from the bottom link, but it told me that it already had a newer one..20:23
ScorpKingmefisto__: this is what i'm doing btw - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DDtoNFS ;)20:24
LynoureAyabara: well, it also links to the driver download page...20:24
tertiusOk ScotpKing....wat is the line for vmware?20:24
Lynoure...with FAQs and howtos20:24
tertiussorry...its dark in here20:24
AyabaraLynoure, yep. trying that now20:25
ScorpKingtertius: sudo apt-get install vmware-server20:25
BillGatesThe3rdtrying to install Opera.  It's a deb file and it keeps failing.  it's the first deb dile I've double clicked apart from trying Skype which had the same problem.  it says a file can't be found.  Is there a known problem with Pakage Installer for Kubuntu?20:25
tertiusE: Couldn't find package vmware-server20:26
ScorpKing!find vmware-server20:27
ubotuPackage/file vmware-server does not exist in gutsy20:27
LynourePossibly from the company site... it's not open source...20:27
ScorpKingtertius: it sais Section: partner/misc20:27
jussi01BillGatesThe3rd: Id suggest using the repos for both of those ( partner repo for opera, !medibuntu for skype)20:28
ScorpKingLynoure: the server is in the repos, not the player20:28
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers20:28
ScorpKingah thanks jussi01 :D20:28
level1_hi, I have a raid 1 setup and mostly its worked okay except that on occassion (randomly) when it boots, I get an (initramfs) prompt.  If I reboot its fine, but any ideas on why it could happen?20:28
BillGatesThe3rdjussi01: I get "poackage doesn't exisit error"  I don't understand !medibuntu20:29
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.20:29
BillGatesThe3rdjussi01: I did the repo for skype.  but do you knwo for Opera?20:29
level1_is it possible if I change my kernel line in grub's menu.lst to set the root as one of the drives, as opposed to the raid 1 of both of them, would it be okay? root=/dev/md0 -> root=/dev/sda620:31
level1_that way its fine as long as sda is fine, and once it boots it should generate the raid device automatically20:32
BillGatesThe3rdjussi01: found it "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner"  many thanks for your reply!20:32
jussi01!medibuntu | BillGatesThe3rd:20:33
ubotuBillGatesThe3rd:: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org20:33
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frinuxfrdo you know how to export a SVG (created with inkscape) to a PDF file ?20:33
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unagiLukeL: u still here?20:34
mefisto__frinuxfr: just print it with the pdf file printer20:35
BillGatesThe3rdjussi01: thx20:35
unagiam i suppose to have 4 swap partitions?20:36
ubotuswap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info20:36
ScorpKingmefisto__: i'm done. thanks for the suggestions :)20:39
epsilethjust restarted kubuntu 7.10 after an update and am now getting "could not start ksmserver, check your installation" after logging in, any thoughts?20:39
Agent_bobelectrical storm got my last modem.   i'm down to a 14.4k 8bit isa card.      any good source for internal modems that will work with linux (i.e. real modems) ?20:40
ScorpKingAgent_bob: check out linmodems.org (i think)20:40
frinuxfrmefisto__> I cannot, it doesn't use the basic interface to print, so that I cannot choose the printer20:41
Agent_bobto find hardware ?    ok...20:41
acemois there any kde alternative for Avant Window Navigator?20:41
ScorpKing!hardware | Agent_bob20:41
ubotuAgent_bob: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection20:41
Agent_bobScorpKing heh.  ;/20:42
dZen|n|can somebody help me, I have no sound.20:43
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP320:44
Agent_bobdZen|n| cat /proc/asound/cards20:44
dZen|n|0 [NVidia         ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia20:44
dZen|n|                      HDA NVidia at 0xfe024000 irq 220:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hda - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:45
ScorpKinghmm.. what happened to that factoid?20:45
ubotuFor fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto20:45
dZen|n|its weard, I had sound for couple of days ago. Then I got some updates and now it's not working :(20:45
Agent_bobdZen|n| ^20:45
crookshankslinks everywhere!20:46
jussi01dZen|n|: likely it was the kernel updates we had20:46
ubuntuhi everyone :P20:47
dZen|n|yes I had a kernel update last night20:47
BillGatesThe3rdis there any easy way to get a trash bin on the desktop?20:49
BillGatesThe3rdthe widget version is ueless.  I want to quickly empty the can20:50
mefisto__frinuxfr: you could convert it to png, then open in gwenview or some other kde app, then print to pdf20:50
mefisto__BillGatesThe3rd: right-click on desktop, create new, link to location (URL), then put in "trash:/" for the location and name it whatever you want20:56
Agent_bobthe linmodems.org site is all about kernel 2.2 and some 2.4 stuff which means it's about 4 years out of date  (at least)     and neither of the links you have pointed me to have anything on locating hardware (probably recycled) that will work.  i already know how to find out if a specific card will work or not.  if that was the intent of the links you posted.       so    no help ?20:57
acemois there any kde alternative for Avant Window Navigator?20:57
BillGatesThe3rdmefisto__: ty.  made.  only prob is it doesn't highlight tha thte trash can be emptied, even though the context is there greyed out.20:58
jussi01acemo: avant window navigator?20:58
ScorpKingAgent_bob: you will have to ask around then. try in #linux and #ubuntu as well20:58
unagiif i have 4 swap partitions can i remove 3 of them?21:00
ScorpKingunagi: yes21:00
unagihow do i know which ones to remove21:00
mefisto__BillGatesThe3rd: do you have anything in trash? delete something and try again21:01
nosrednaekimunagi » remove any of them...21:01
unagilinux will use whatever is left?21:02
BillGatesThe3rdmefisto__:  deleted a txt file and still doesn't allow delete from mouse menu21:02
BillGatesThe3rdbrb have to restart.  sound sys died.21:02
acemojussi01: http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/9992/avantdockyh1.png heres a picture of it.. its basicly a launcher bar with active programs listed in it and basicly would be a full replacement for the bar at the bottom of kde21:02
Agent_bobunagi sudo swapoff -a   remove the ones you want and   sudo swapon -a   what ever is left will be used.21:02
unagithank you21:02
jussi01acemo: no, I know what it is. I was just saying it works perfectly in kubuntu also21:03
* Agent_bob did swapoff -a and removed them all.....21:03
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acemojussi01: it does? i saw this on a site... Cons:  - KDE icons looks unclear.21:04
jussi01acemo: works perfectly for me here21:04
acemojussi01: alright ill try it then thanks :)21:04
jussi01nosrednaekim: yeah21:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vmware-server - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:05
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers21:05
nosrednaekimtoo GNOMISH for me, and besides doesn't support kwin4 compositing21:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kwin4 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kwin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:06
jussi01!info kwin421:06
ubotukwin4 (source: kdegames): Connect Four clone for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 176 kB, installed size 612 kB21:07
jussi01!botabuse | unagi21:07
ubotuunagi: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.21:07
mefisto__desktops are getting far too pretty, imho21:07
nosrednaekimlol,not that kwin421:07
MrJigsawIn order to make a DVD Drive work, do i have to mount it or ?21:07
nosrednaekimMrJigsaw » yes21:07
nosrednaekimMrJigsaw » unless you mean for burning.21:08
MrJigsawits for burning :-)21:08
nosrednaekimyeah, then just pop i the dvd and run k3b21:09
MrJigsawOkay, cool, thanks.21:09
Agent_bobpopeye the dvd ?21:10
Agent_boboh pop in the dvd   sorry.21:10
prince_jammysAgent_bob: yeah the one with Robin Williams21:11
Agent_bobwasn't much of a movie was it21:11
mefisto__it was definitely a low point in his career21:11
Agent_bobonly high point in the whole thing was "you can't inheiret a pipe!"     ug yug yug yug....21:12
Agent_bob!ot | me21:12
ubotume: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!21:13
_Angelus_guys, isnt kmenu being updated automatic in kde4 when i install new applications?21:15
Agent_bobkbuildsycoco something or other --update21:16
Agent_bobfor a manual update ^    but yes it's supposed to automatic update.21:17
certainfulhey folks21:17
mefisto__unagi: where those extra swap partitions on separate physical disks?21:17
unagii just deleted them21:18
unagihopefully when i restart i can resize my kubuntu partition to use it21:18
certainfulne1 wanna help a clueless newb?21:18
mefisto__just wondering how they got there21:18
unagimultiple ubuntu installs im sure21:19
prince_jammys!anyone | certainful21:19
ubotucertainful: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?21:19
mefisto__also wondering if you can have more than one swap partition on separate disks to get faster read/write to swap21:19
sourcemakercan someone help me? I am fighting with vmware-server since 2 days... without success... :-) Module vmnet is not loaded.  Please verify that it is loaded before21:20
certainfulright sorry...I've got a wheel barrow full of dumb questions but I'll start with the least of 'em.... I got a how to on installing zd1211 and it says:21:20
certainfulI need to install linux-source-2.6.15 on dapper21:21
certainfulbut I can't find that package.21:21
MrJigsawIve heard that its possible to use konsole as FTP program, how do i do that ?21:21
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: man ftp21:21
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: you type ftp and then have to use ftp commands21:22
mefisto__MrJigsaw: konqueror is easy too if you want gui21:22
MrJigsawi would like to learn how to use the terminal :>21:23
mefisto__good for you MrJigsaw!21:23
certainfulcan ne1 help me setup my zd1211 chipset on dapper?21:23
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MrJigsawSo its: ftp://<myftpdomain>@<username>:<password>/ or ?21:23
certainfulpoint me in a good direction?21:23
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: yeah a gui is definitely easier: most web browsers (for downloading) or an ftp client like kftpgrabber. But yeah you can do it from term -- the  commands are similar to unix commands (some are the same, eg. ls)21:24
MrJigsawSure gui is allways easier :).. but i liked flashfxp for windows, and i cant find another linux client that i like. so id rather use the terminal21:25
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: don't remember .. you need to read a tutorial or see an example of an ftp session21:25
MrJigsawim googling as we speak :)21:26
ScorpKingMrJigsaw: ftp://yourname@server/ and it should ask for the passwd21:27
MrJigsawinvalid command21:28
mefisto__MrJigsaw: did you find this -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=62999621:28
prince_jammysScorpKing: he's doing it from command line, not browser21:28
ScorpKingprince_jammys: ah ok21:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hda-intel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:30
ScorpKingMrJigsaw: also look at 'man ftp'21:30
dZen|n|sound still not working21:30
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: first you type "ftp" .. you get a prompt, and then you have to read up on all the commands. you can also type "help" at the prompt for a list of commands.  But seeing an example is the best thing.21:30
dZen|n|I installed new alsa sriver :821:30
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion21:31
MrJigsawprince_jammys: i cant find any examples at google. nor a guider or anything :)21:31
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: http://www.cs.colostate.edu/helpdocs/ftp.html21:31
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: with example at the bottom21:32
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: once you get past the logging in part, browsing and downloading is easy in ftp.  browsing is pretty much like browsing in your computer (cd,ls,etc) -- and there's always the command "help".  One thing that can be annoying is the whole passive/active mode, which you have to read up on21:34
arcticpenguin380does journalling protect aginst everything?21:34
aharoonhi iwant to disaple compiz fusion i use command kwin --replace it says finished paRSING the config file and it stop to responce  if i closed the conslole window every opend window disappear its titlebar then the pc hung21:34
MrJigsawSo right now im all about remembering the password for the FTP :P21:35
MrJigsawThink ill wait with that till i get more keen on linux21:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hda - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:36
MrJigsawIm not even understanding how to open folders using terminal ;|21:36
acemoMrJigsaw: cd <foldername>21:36
MrJigsawi wont it to open as a folder on desktop21:36
acemokonqueror <foldername>21:37
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Attilahi guys21:37
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MrJigsawkonqueror is a browser right ?21:37
acemokonqueror is a browser and filebrowser21:37
prince_jammysMrJigsaw: then learn that first ... don't mess with command line ftp right now.  learn how to browse files on your machine21:37