kiko-afk | soren, geser: https://launchpad.net/bugs/179816 | 00:00 |
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ubotu | Launchpad bug 179816 in malone ""Unknown" importance should be unsettable if project uses Launchpad for bugtracking" [Medium,Confirmed] | 00:00 |
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ubotu | New bug: #191401 in launchpad "text-to-html on products?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191401 | 00:05 |
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ubotu | New bug: #191423 in launchpad "wish: subscribe to announcements by mail" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191423 | 01:51 |
reacocard | I just created a PPA, and uploaded a couple of source packages to it, which were accepted. However, they do not appear to be building nor are they listed in the build records, is this normal? | 02:50 |
jamesh | reacocard: what's your Launchpad ID? | 02:56 |
reacocard | same as my username here, but I made a separate team for this PPA, called reacocard-awn | 02:57 |
jamesh | that is weird | 02:58 |
jamesh | I'd have expected to see them at https://edge.launchpad.net/~reacocard-awn/+archive/+builds?build_text=&build_state=all | 02:59 |
reacocard | exactly what I was expecting | 02:59 |
reacocard | but, they're not, and no error of any sort was given | 02:59 |
jamesh | a lot of the PPA stuff is handled by cron jobs | 02:59 |
jamesh | so it is possible that it hasn't been picked up for building yet (even though the source packages have been published) | 03:00 |
reacocard | even so i'd expect it to be listed as 'pending' or something like that on the status page | 03:00 |
reacocard | sorry, 'needs building' | 03:00 |
reacocard | if it goes through on the cron and it's just not showing in the UI then that is a bug that need fixing, giving feedback to users is improtant | 03:01 |
jamesh | if it still hasn't shown up in 30 minutes to an hour, please file a ticket at https://answers.launchpad.net/soyuz | 03:01 |
reacocard | it's already been nearly 40 minutes for the first one | 03:02 |
jamesh | I agree that the system needs work. At some point, it'd be good to make the system a lot more event based | 03:03 |
jamesh | (similar to how the background jobs for code hosting work) | 03:03 |
reacocard | sounds good | 03:03 |
reacocard | I'll give it another 20 minutes, if nothing shows then I'll file a ticket at the page you linked to | 03:04 |
ubotu | New bug: #191445 in launchpad "lint.sh still does s/bzr+ssh:/sftp:/, even though bug 147836 is fixed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191445 | 03:25 |
reacocard | jamesh: it just went through (build failed but that was my fault, missing build-dep), so it seems it's just a bug in launchpad's build display mechanism | 03:28 |
reacocard | mm, more ui bugs, after deleting what I had uploaded my 0 source packages are taking up 2.2MB of space :) | 03:41 |
jamesh | reacocard: asking to delete something just removes it from the archive. | 03:44 |
jamesh | there is another batch job that goes through to actually remove obsolete files later on | 03:44 |
jamesh | unless you are running close to the quota, I wouldn't worry about it | 03:44 |
reacocard | ah ok | 03:45 |
reacocard | It just looked weird, I figured it'd be something like that | 03:45 |
jamesh | there are still rough edges on the PPA functionality, as you've seen | 03:46 |
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carlos | morning | 08:05 |
ubotu | New bug: #191485 in launchpad "repeated rows when searching for bugs with patches" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191485 | 08:28 |
ubotu | New bug: #191486 in launchpad "badge in bug listing for bugs with patches" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191486 | 08:30 |
goobsoft | I'm trying to use pbuilder to ensure I have the proper build-deps in a package I'm going to upload to lp ppa. However, I'm getting "cp: cannot stat `./misc': No such file or directory" | 08:54 |
goobsoft | I searched on google and all I found was this which seems to be the same thing | 08:54 |
goobsoft | http://pastebin.ca/884424 | 08:54 |
goobsoft | the only place I have misc is in debian/control as "Section: misc" | 08:54 |
goobsoft | nevermind, I was running pbuilder with the changes instead of the dsc | 09:03 |
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ubotu | New bug: #191517 in rosetta "Person's translations page points to hidden pofiles" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191517 | 10:51 |
* kiko high fives scottk | 10:58 | |
thegodfather | hmmmm | 11:07 |
thegodfather | kiko: ping? | 11:07 |
kiko | yes thegodfather? | 11:08 |
thegodfather | hey consigliere | 11:08 |
kiko | how goes it | 11:08 |
thegodfather | kiko: i am a bit lost on the LP interface.. i was wondering if you could help me a second | 11:08 |
thegodfather | pretty ok... i guess | 11:08 |
thegodfather | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/2.6.24.6-5.16 | 11:08 |
thegodfather | i am trying to find the binaries generated by that source | 11:08 |
thegodfather | i remember there was a way in LP to download them from the librarian even if removed from disk | 11:09 |
thegodfather | but i can't find it anymore | 11:09 |
kiko | right | 11:09 |
kiko | thegodfather, unpack builds, follow a build, and then unpack resulting binaries, and pick the binary. | 11:09 |
kiko | by unpack I mean expand the portlet | 11:09 |
thegodfather | oh there it is :) | 11:10 |
thegodfather | thanks | 11:10 |
kiko | rock on | 11:10 |
ubotu | New bug: #191534 in launchpad "Leadership Code of Conduct should be signed by Team Leaders" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191534 | 12:21 |
dholbach | how often are NEW packages accepted into PPA? | 12:22 |
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dholbach | cprov: ^ do you know? | 12:35 |
cprov | dholbach: PPA uploads are auto-accepted, there is no queue-stage | 12:36 |
dholbach | cprov: ah ok, it's just that in the 5-a-day PPA there are "No matching builds." for "All states" although I got the accepted mail | 12:37 |
cprov | dholbach: PPA url ? | 12:37 |
dholbach | cprov: https://launchpad.net/~5-a-day/+archive/+builds | 12:38 |
cprov | dholbach: it takes up to 1 hour until the accepted sources get queued for build | 12:38 |
dholbach | cprov: I see - thanks a lot, I'll be patient then :) | 12:38 |
cprov | dholbach: ahh, that was the team name :) sorry. | 12:38 |
dholbach | don't worry | 12:39 |
cprov | dholbach: published 38 minutes ago ... the build(s) will be there in a bit, queue-builder starts on :08 and finishes on :48 (hourly) | 12:41 |
dholbach | rock and roll | 12:41 |
dholbach | gracias cprov - you ROCK | 12:41 |
dholbach | hey thekorn | 12:41 |
thekorn | huhu dholbach | 12:42 |
cprov | dholbach: PPA users *rock* even more :), keep it up ! | 12:42 |
dholbach | :-) | 12:43 |
cprov | dholbach: btw, your build is there. | 12:53 |
dholbach | cprov: yoohoo! | 13:00 |
holtmann | I put in the bluez-gnome trunk/HEAD for translation and import directly from CVS. However it seems that needs to be approved first. Can someone please do that. Thanks. | 13:02 |
kiko | holtmann, I did it today, but the import failed. | 13:12 |
kiko | holtmann, I asked mwhudson to help me figure out what the problem is, because it's pretty weird. | 13:12 |
holtmann | kiko: Anything I can do? | 13:12 |
holtmann | Besides that Sourceforge.net CVS was down yesterday for a few hours. | 13:13 |
kiko | holtmann, well, there might be -- I'll be able to tell you tomorrow. | 13:13 |
kiko | he's in NZ so the timezone doesn't work out so well | 13:13 |
holtmann | Okay ping me and I do it. | 13:13 |
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ubotu | New bug: #191594 in soyuz "Add kubuntu-kde4 task" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191594 | 15:55 |
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jonalv | Can launchpad couple to sourceforges bug tracking system in some way? | 17:05 |
kiko | yes | 17:06 |
kiko | we support sourceforge perfectly! | 17:06 |
kiko | just add watches | 17:06 |
jonalv | I like the word "perfectly" :) | 17:07 |
jonalv | and now my question would be: what's the base url for a sourceforge projects bug tracking? | 17:10 |
kiko | jonalv, just use a sourceforge URL | 17:11 |
kiko | jonalv, SF is a unique tracker -- so it's a bit special. | 17:11 |
kiko | jonalv, is there a form asking you for a base url? | 17:11 |
kiko | jonalv, ah! you don't need to register the tracker | 17:11 |
kiko | jonalv, just use SF urls -- it works. | 17:11 |
jonalv | hm I don't think I understand. I seem to have some other projects bugs now :) | 17:14 |
kiko | jonalv, what are you trying to do? | 17:15 |
jonalv | Well in change details I changed bugs are tracked from "somewhere else" to In a registered bug tracker Sourceforge.net tracker | 17:16 |
jonalv | Then I went over to bugs thinking that I could point it over to some sourceforge adress somehow | 17:18 |
jonalv | ah well not exactly I think it was something about bug tracker.... | 17:19 |
jonalv | The short answer is probably: "then I got lost..." | 17:20 |
kiko | aha | 17:27 |
kiko | jonalv, can you show me an example bug? I'll teach you something. | 17:27 |
jonalv | <http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1885535&group_id=150681&atid=778609> | 17:27 |
ubotu | Sourceforge bug 1885535 "Jmol broken in 1.2.0" [Pri: 5,Open] - Assigned to Nobody/Anonymous | 17:27 |
ChrisM | Hello, is there the Launchpad where I can get help with Ubuntu problems? I was directed to here by a person in #ubuntu. | 17:30 |
ChrisM | is this* | 17:31 |
kiko | jonalv, I mean the launchpad bug. | 17:33 |
kiko | ChrisM, what problems are you having? | 17:33 |
jonalv | kiko, what launchpad bug? :) | 17:33 |
kiko | jonalv, you said "in change details".. what project was this? | 17:33 |
jonalv | kiko, we seems to have some sort of communication problem here :) | 17:33 |
kiko | yeah, a big one! | 17:33 |
kiko | heh | 17:34 |
ChrisM | I updated the Linux Kernel Headers, and no matter what I try, I can't seem to get past this error in the menu.lst | 17:34 |
jonalv | the launchpad project is bioclipse | 17:34 |
kiko | ChrisM, okay. they probably were suggesting you asked the question at answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu | 17:34 |
kiko | jonalv, thanks. | 17:34 |
ChrisM | Oh, on a forum? | 17:35 |
kiko | ChrisM, sort of. | 17:35 |
ChrisM | OH OK. | 17:35 |
kiko | jonalv, okay. were you looking to import your bugs into launchpad? I guess I'm not sure what you want to do. | 17:36 |
jonalv | Well remember what I asked first? If laucnhpad could couple over and use the sourceforge bug tracker | 17:36 |
jonalv | somehow | 17:37 |
kiko | jonalv, well, can you clarify the somehow? that's the root of my confusion right now. :-) | 17:38 |
jonalv | Ah well, I guess hm... | 17:38 |
jonalv | Well pu it like this | 17:39 |
jonalv | We want to use launchpad but we want to keep having the bugs at sourceforge for a while longer. | 17:39 |
jonalv | Is there a best way for doing this? | 17:39 |
jonalv | Can launchpad use the bugs over at sourceforge in some way? | 17:40 |
jonalv | I was beginning to suspect this was the case since I could clearly tell it that the bugs in fact are over at sourceforge... | 17:40 |
jonalv | ah ping kiko? | 17:44 |
kiko | jonalv, okay. | 17:45 |
kiko | jonalv, right now we can't import your bugs read-only into launchpad. we'd like to do that, but there is a bit of engineering that needs to happen. | 17:46 |
tomek | good day, I need to develop a closed source project. Can I host it on launchpad? | 17:46 |
kiko | tomek, talk to statik! :) | 17:46 |
tomek | kiko: thanks :) | 17:47 |
kiko | jonalv, I was checking to see if your software is in Ubuntu, but I see it's not | 17:47 |
jonalv | kiko, okey so the answer is: "not yet"? :) | 17:47 |
jonalv | ah yes the answer to that is not yet :) | 17:47 |
kiko | jonalv, well, what can be done is bugs in Launchpad can be linked to bugs in SourceForge | 17:47 |
kiko | jonalv, however, in your case, that isn't really what you want I don't think | 17:47 |
jonalv | okey, that is at least very helpful I guess | 17:47 |
kiko | jonalv, we use this functionality so that a project can keep track of bugs that are actually caused by other software | 17:47 |
jonalv | ah | 17:48 |
kiko | jonalv, for instance, in Ubuntu, we use these links (called bug watches) to say "this bug is in Ubuntu, but it's actually caused by a problem in firefox" or whatever upstream it is. | 17:48 |
kiko | jonalv, let me find a bug to exemplify this to you | 17:48 |
tomek | statik: hello? :) | 17:48 |
jonalv | yup I understand :) | 17:48 |
jonalv | kiko, I understand :) | 17:49 |
kiko | tomek, hmm, let me see if he's on the phone | 17:49 |
kiko | ah, he dropped off | 17:49 |
kiko | tomek, can you write to elliot@canonical.com? | 17:49 |
tomek | oh, okey. but I mean only an academic project for a competition | 17:50 |
tomek | it is not something big or... you know :) | 17:50 |
kiko | tomek, yeah, I understand -- Launchpad's free for free software, and for non-free you need to check with him | 17:51 |
tomek | something that may get opened next year | 17:51 |
tomek | ok thanks :) | 17:51 |
statik | tomek: hey there | 17:58 |
statik | was getting some food | 17:58 |
tomek | hey! | 18:03 |
tomek | I was thinking about using Launchpad for our academic project | 18:04 |
tomek | it has to be in the beginning closed source, because we would lose the competition if others took all our work | 18:04 |
tomek | the topic is very hot, so our innovations must be kept secret | 18:05 |
tomek | is it possible to get such an account? | 18:05 |
Rinchen | tomek, interesting! | 18:11 |
Rinchen | tomek, the best thing you can do is to send an email with your details to feedback@launchpad.net | 18:11 |
tomek | statik is probably eating the food now | 18:11 |
tomek | Rinchen: send a request or share the idea of hosting a closed source projects? | 18:12 |
statik | tomek: go ahead and mail me as kiko previously suggested and we'll see what we can do. | 18:12 |
Rinchen | tomek, what statik just said :-) | 18:12 |
statik | it sounds like a very exciting project | 18:13 |
tomek | yes | 18:13 |
kiko | ah, I was going to show jonalk https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/16465 | 18:13 |
kiko | oh well | 18:13 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 16465 in firefox "Firefox eats up all the CPU with certain pages" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Mozilla Bugs (mozilla-bugs) | 18:13 |
tomek | competition by MS | 18:13 |
tomek | so does launchpad help in translating Visual Studio projects? | 18:13 |
statik | tomek: I don't think it has anything to do with visual studio | 18:14 |
statik | but with the resource file format | 18:14 |
statik | windows uses integers as string identifiers | 18:14 |
tomek | oh.. | 18:14 |
statik | while po files use the english string as an identifier | 18:14 |
tomek | so there is no bigger problem | 18:15 |
statik | no | 18:15 |
statik | it's a question of teaching launchpad to understand the file format | 18:15 |
statik | I've been thinking we needed to support this | 18:15 |
statik | but you are the first person I've seen request it | 18:15 |
statik | do you have your resource files built already, or are you just getting started? | 18:15 |
tomek | we are just getting started | 18:16 |
tomek | and I've found your blueprint manager | 18:16 |
tomek | that's thing I dreamed of | 18:16 |
statik | it can be a bit tricky to allow changing languages on the fly using the windows translation formats | 18:16 |
statik | but you don't have to use the built in windows resource file format on your code | 18:16 |
statik | in fact, if you intend the software to be portable to other systems, I recommend against using the windows format | 18:16 |
statik | and instead using something like ICU (IBM Components for Unicode or something like that) for managing your strings | 18:17 |
statik | this works just fine on windows and all the other platforms as well, so porting is a whole lot easier | 18:17 |
tomek | it is a MS competition, so we have to use VS... | 18:17 |
statik | sure, you can use visual studio | 18:17 |
statik | that is just a compiler and an IDE | 18:17 |
statik | anyway, I'm sure you will make a good choice there | 18:18 |
tomek | thanks :) | 18:18 |
statik | just wanted to point out a hard-earned lesson about portability in translation formats :) | 18:18 |
tomek | we are now choosing technologies to achieve our goals, and the time to decide on file formats is coming :) | 18:21 |
tomek | thanks a lot, I will consult the rest of the team and talk to you if they get excited with launchpad too@ | 18:22 |
tomek | bye! | 18:22 |
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ubotu | New bug: #191623 in malone "Launchpad should import statuses from Savannah bugs" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191623 | 18:54 |
ubotu | New bug: #191624 in malone "Launchpad should import importances from Savannah bugs" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191624 | 18:54 |
ubotu | New bug: #191639 in malone "Bug status transitions should be recorded" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191639 | 18:56 |
pochu | Can I subscribe to 3 bugs in a row? | 19:05 |
pochu | ubotu: subscribe 1234 ! | 19:06 |
pochu | ^ that would be cool | 19:06 |
ubotu | New bug: #191648 in malone "Launchpad bugs should have an aging report" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191648 | 19:21 |
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ubotu | New bug: #191666 in soyuz "PPA: Delay before packages appear in build queue" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191666 | 20:16 |
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Sam__ | Hi Launchpad team, I was interested in trying out the Launchpad translation facility for my project, but my translation file has been in the import queue for 7 days now. Can you help? | 21:19 |
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seb128_ | hi | 21:50 |
seb128_ | is there a way to know what ubuntu task has a watch on a determined upstream url? | 21:51 |
Fujitsu | seb128_: A URL like https://edge.launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers/mozilla-bugs/375591 will take you to the Launchpad bug that references #375591 in Mozilla Bugzilla. | 21:55 |
seb128_ | Fujitsu: thanks | 21:55 |
tomek | have a good valentines :) | 22:05 |
Seq | Hello. If a team creates a PPA, can any team member upload to that PPA, or is there a way to limit it to a certain few? | 22:23 |
lifeless | Seq: the team defines write access, anyone can read | 22:24 |
lifeless | Seq: so no, you can't have team A's ppa only written to by team B. | 22:24 |
Seq | lifeless: well it's just one team. I just created one and have had two users request membership. I want them to be involved, but don't want them to be able to upload to the PPA until there is a certain level of trust. | 22:26 |
lifeless | Seq: sounds like you equate 'involved' with 'team membership' | 22:26 |
lifeless | Seq: what ubuntu does is have various teams for graduated trust | 22:27 |
Seq | lifeless: ahh, I see. so you'd have Blah-members and Blah-community | 22:32 |
lifeless | yes, *if* you need to grant some permissions (like bug triage) to some people, and others (like ppa's) to other people | 22:33 |
Seq | lifeless: i'm not neccessarily equating involved with membership, but I don't want them to mistake "rejected membership" for "rejected participation" | 22:33 |
lifeless | fair enough | 22:34 |
Seq | lifeless: i'll keep that in mind in the future. I'll probably just talk to them beforehand and explain the issue. I'm sure they'll understand | 22:34 |
Seq | Thanks! | 22:34 |
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jml | Hey guys. | 23:00 |
jml | Looks like my linode server is down :( | 23:00 |
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soren | People still use linode servers? | 23:07 |
soren | Are those still uml based? | 23:07 |
jml | soren: no idea | 23:10 |
soren | *shrug* | 23:11 |
jml | soren: what do the cool kids use? | 23:11 |
jml | instead of linode, that is. | 23:11 |
soren | I've got an actual server hosted somewhere. It's not the pricey anymore at all. | 23:11 |
soren | Of course linodes are probably way cheaper now than when I look at them last (3-4 years ago). | 23:12 |
jml | :) | 23:12 |
soren | For €59 I get a Dual core 2.8GHz box, unlimited traffic, 100 Mbit/s, 4 GB RAM, 800 GB disk. I could fit a lot of linodes on one of those :) | 23:13 |
ubotu | New bug: #191701 in launchpad "build stuck in pending state" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191701 | 23:21 |
spiv | soren: you can get a linode for 20 USD. For that price it's only 360 MB RAM and 10 GB storage, but that's plenty for what I need. | 23:26 |
spiv | soren: (and they are still UML based I think, although they are beta testing Xen) | 23:29 |
soren | spiv: Yes, I just found that out, too. | 23:29 |
ubotu | New bug: #191703 in launchpad "ppa overview page doesn't make failed archive visible" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191703 | 23:30 |
steveire | Hi I'm still confused about version numbering in my ppa. I've named the package 1.1.10-1ubuntu1~ppa1. That should be upgraded if a new version of libxine appears in -backports. Is that what will happen with the current version name | 23:46 |
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