tcmMrJigsaw: try 'chmod +x amsn-0.97-1.tcl84.x86.package && ./amsn-0.97-1.tcl84.x86.package00:00
nareshovoloughlin75: there should be some script out there00:00
MrJigsawnareshov: when i click on it it opens with vlc00:00
BluesKajactaully kopete runs msn very well...better than amsn in my experience00:00
MrJigsaweverything does for me :S00:00
nosredna_ekim.package? what is THAT?00:01
nareshovman! what a combo - MSN, TK, PACKAGE ~_~00:01
MrJigsawchmod: cannot access `amsn-0.97-1.tcl84.x86.package': No such file or directory <- i get that tcm...00:01
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tcmsudo chmod?00:02
DigiDaemonBlue: nothing, I think I am just going to get the ATI site binaries and reinstall them and hope they work00:02
MrJigsawtcm same error00:03
BluesKajDigiDaemon, bummer ...sorry it din't work for you :(00:03
BluesKajI don't like fooling with other ppl's xorg.config files ...it's too risky00:03
DigiDaemonBlue: I understand, but it's it's really broke then install the site binaries and get them right should fix it00:04
miladenid there a good place to load up on repositories?00:04
subtrnlNickPresta➜ u around00:05
MrJigsawWhy wont that stupid .package thing work00:05
BluesKajwel, my experience with the prprietary drivers on gutsy with the X200 card isn't very good ...but it may work for what you need00:05
nosredna_ekimmiladen » make your own repo?00:06
miladenhehe yea but i dont have any packages to share :)00:06
miladenholy s**t its valentines day :D00:06
ubotuWith Launchpad's Personal Package Archives (PPA), you can build and publish binary Ubuntu packages for multiple architectures simply by uploading an Ubuntu source package to Launchpad. See https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart.00:06
miladenubotu i dont understand that00:08
miladenoh :P00:08
tcmMrJigsaw: why dont you install it with apt?00:08
BluesKajubotu is a botscript00:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is a botscript - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:08
MrJigsawBecause its an very OLD version tcm.00:09
MrJigsawi dosent support my resulotion.. i see big pixels :|00:09
tcmwhich version is the newest?00:10
Dr_willis'look at the size of the pixles on that one!' :)00:10
miladenI have undestood it like this so far: repositiries are "ftps?" with loads of packages and the more i add the more packages i can get with my adept, right or wrong ?00:10
Dr_willismiladen,  they are often ftp servers, yes. they can be using http server also.00:10
MrJigsawtcm 8.4 is the newest00:10
Dr_willismore repos = more packages  :)00:10
miladenDr_willis then how do i get more of these?00:10
BluesKajmiladen, to some degree yes , but some repos aren't as safe package wise as others00:11
Dr_willisTheres dozens of unofficial ones. You should only add the ones you need.00:11
miladenyeah ok but i dont have a lot of them, arent there a list of good ones that a lot of people have?00:11
ubotusource-o-matic is not available anymore, please use Software Sources (in your Applications / K menu) to configure your repositories. Do NOT enable "Proposed updates" unless you're willing to test possibly seriously flawed packages.00:11
nosredna_ekimmiladen » you really don't need many more than the ones provided, possibly the WINE repo and trevino's and medibuntu00:11
Dr_willisMedibunt is a must setup. :)00:11
BluesKajbummer about source-o-matic00:11
miladenyeah but i wanna find some webprogramming repos00:11
tcmMrJigsaw: 8.4 is the Tcl version00:12
MrJigsawIts allso tcl version in repos :)00:13
tcmMrJigsaw: apt-cache show amsn | grep Version gives: Version: 0.97RC1+dfsg-0ubuntu100:14
nosredna_ekimmiladen » what do you mean web programming?00:15
oloughlin75Is there a way to list the artists in mysql that amarok has in its database?00:15
tcmthere is nothing newer then 0.9700:15
miladenphp css mysql tools00:15
MrJigsawpretty sure that is..00:15
MrJigsawill contact the dudes at #amsn when they get online..00:15
miladennosredna_ekim php css mysql tools00:16
BluesKajMrJigsaw, try kopete , you may like it00:16
tcmMrJigsaw: "What's the one feature you wanted to see the most in 0.97 that didn't make it ?" from the website00:17
MrJigsawThink ill stick to pidgin until i get amsn :-)00:17
MrJigsaweeh.. i dont get that tcm ?00:17
tcm0.97 is the newest release00:18
tcmhttp://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/amsn/amsn-0.97.tar.bz2  <--- link from there downloadsite00:19
MrJigsawI dont get that :)00:19
MrJigsawIts very sucky then..00:19
tcmMrJigsaw: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/amsn/aMSN-0.97-windows-installer.exe <--- wininstaller00:19
tcmMrJigsaw: first was the source code00:19
MrJigsawwhy would i need an .exe in linux ?00:20
MrJigsawIm not gonna wine a msn client.. id rather just use pidgin then :)00:20
FaiDillinGercan someone please tell me what is a good virtualisation software for kubuntu 7.10 ?00:20
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tcmMrJigsaw: run "sudo apt-get install amsn" and you get the newest version. I'm just trying to show you that .97 is the newest00:21
MrJigsawI understand00:22
MrJigsawbut i told you it look crappy and tells me that theyres updates but it cant exicute firefox00:22
MrJigsawAnd now im going to sleep... SLeep well when you reach that point..00:22
tcmMrJigsaw: read this website http://packages.gentoo.org/package/net-im/amsn00:23
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tcmMrJigsaw: it is the rc1 in apt00:23
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nosredna_ekimmiladen » those are all in the standard repositories00:25
nosredna_ekimFaiDillinGer » virtualbox00:25
miladennot any useful packages such as a real php compiler instead of kate that has no live syntax check00:25
FaiDillinGernosredna_ekim: thx, already tried that one....00:27
nosredna_ekimmiladen » ewll, i'm sure its in the repositories,you just have to find the name00:27
nosredna_ekim!search php00:27
ubotuFound: latest kde, koffice, thunderbird, newton, flash-also*, amd64-#ubuntu-effects, sharedprinting, download-#kubuntu, kde4, lamp00:27
DragnslcrPHP is an interpreted language. The package for the interpreter is php500:28
DragnslcrIf you're looking for an IDE other than Kate, KDevelop might have PHP support00:29
SlimeyPeteQuanta does PHP... but then Quanta uses Kate and bolts other stuff on around it00:29
Daisuke_Idoi wouldn't call kate an ide...  more of a really good gui text editor with syntax highlighting -_-00:30
aharooni was using compiz fusion it was slow my pc and i coldnt disaple it so i removed everything related to it from synaptic how i could if everything work fine now?? i feel it still little slow00:30
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NickPrestaSlimeyPete, Aptana. Check it out (search Google for link). It is top notch for web dev.00:31
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nosredna_ekimaharoon » did you remove xserver-xgl?00:33
aharooni dont know i browsed for compiz and removed everything contain compiz but i think xgl contain proplem how i check it?00:34
miladenany rapidshare download managers in linux?00:35
nosredna_ekimaharoon » "apt-cache policy xserver-xgl"00:35
val0what's the command line to display your swap partion?00:35
nosredna_ekimfree-m ?00:36
nosredna_ekimfree -m00:36
val0nosredna_ekim: cool00:36
val0nosredna_ekim: thanks00:36
aharoon  Installed: (none)00:36
aharoon  Candidate: 1:
aharoon  Version table:00:36
aharoon     1: 000:36
aharoon        500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/universe Packages00:36
Daisuke_Idoi'll be glad when that pointless kludge called xgl is dead.00:36
Picachoowhere can i get quality top famouse games that work in linux? or can be run fine with wine?00:37
aharoonthis what i get when i run the command u gave me00:38
Daisuke_IdoPicachoo: the store.00:38
Daisuke_Idowe don't assist in piracy, please don't ask about it again00:38
ubotupiracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o00:39
prince_jammysPicachoo: compusa, circuitcity, that kind of place00:39
oloughlin75I am amazed that I am only using 238mb of ram00:39
miladenwho are you saying that to? oloughlin7500:39
nosredna_ekimaharoon » ok.. so its not installed00:39
ebentonDid anyone else have problems with the Kernel system updates today?00:40
aharoonok then i have to install it is it need any configuration?00:40
nosredna_ekimebenton » not really, but there was an update to fix a dangerous security flaw00:40
ebentonI can no longer get past the kdm login00:40
nosredna_ekimebenton » any errors?00:40
Picachooprince_jammys ok. any more. good ones?00:41
ebentonnosredna: I've forgotten where to look to verify errors. Hints?00:41
aharoon<nosredna_ekim> then i have to install it is it need any configuration? and could i know what is this for?00:41
miladeni hate that every1 thinks just because your downloading something from rapidshare its illegal files00:43
miladenim downloading a video tutorial for linux geeze!00:43
prince_jammysmiladen heh, thats cuz about 96% is illegal00:43
Ms-susei pirate all the time00:44
Ms-susethe illegal stuff00:44
prince_jammysi figured00:44
miladenMs-suse hah you go dude :D00:44
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nosredna_ekimebenton » check in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log00:45
Ms-susein most countries around the world there are no such thinks as illegal downloads00:45
nosredna_ekimMs-suse » then move there...lol00:46
miladennosredna_ekim american? :D00:46
Cicero_123rehello room. 6 days of kubuntu/linux :)00:46
nosredna_ekimCicero_123 » hey... congrats00:46
miladenhehe move "there" like everywhere else is there :D00:46
BluesKajMs-suse, this room doesn't encourage talk of illegal downloads ...we don't need that kind of attention , if you get my drift.00:47
nosredna_ekimwell, gramatically speaking, yes, everywhere else is there00:47
aharoondo i have to restart after install xserver xgl?00:47
nosredna_ekimaharoon » don't install it...00:47
Cicero_123thanx. when i play a dvd in kaffein all the buttons go weird, and the colors of the main bar go wierd. is that to be expected?00:47
miladennosredna_ekim  politically speaking, idiotic :D00:47
nosredna_ekimCicero_123 » how do they go wierd00:47
aharoonthen what i have to do??00:47
nosredna_ekimmiladen » so true :)00:47
nosredna_ekimaharoon » i'm not sure what you problem is00:48
Cicero_123the colors of the buttons start to turn inverted, and speckled.00:48
aharooni did install it00:48
miladenbut im closing in to being the same just in reverse so ill shut up :D00:48
Cicero_123the main bar looks like an acid trip (according to my baby sitter on what an acid trip would look like)00:48
BluesKajCicero_123, sure00:49
NickPrestaCicero_123, is this a Kaffein related issue or does it happen with all video players (MPlayer, VLC, etc)?00:49
prince_jammysnosredna_ekim: there was a guy mike anderson that sat next to me in high school00:49
nosredna_ekimprince_jammys » certainly wasn't me... i'm in highschool.00:49
Cicero_123i dont know. i will dl vlc and try it.00:49
prince_jammysnosredna_ekim: yeah didnt think so00:49
NickPrestaCicero_123, mplayer is probably easier (and smaller).00:50
BluesKajvlc is a great last resort ...it's gui is boring , but it works00:50
aharoonok nm but could anyone tell me what is xserver xgl used for?00:50
Cicero_123k i will try mplayer.  i used vlc on when i had windows.00:50
BluesKajvlc is still better00:51
NickPrestaaharoon, it is a GL based X Server. It provides an environment for things like Compiz and such to run. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xgl00:52
aharoonaha thanks for infos i removed it again00:52
ubotuKDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde400:53
miladenwhat are the chances of getting "busted" in linux compared to windows actually? warez wise00:55
NickPrestamiladen, fairly minimal. Don't run executables from sources you don't trust, don't run as root, don't give your password to anyone. You should be safe.00:55
bobbobhey all00:55
NickPrestahey bobbob00:55
miladenNickPresta im talking more in the lines of "busted by the authorities"00:56
miladenHey bobbob00:56
prince_jammysmiladen: i would say about the same, since you get busted when you serve files on the web or peer to peer. OS doesnt matter00:56
bobbobok i got a network with xp and ubuntu xp can see ubuntu but ubuntu wont show xp?00:56
NickPrestamiladen, if they have your IP address and logs of you downloading illegal files, your OS doesn't matter much.00:56
Cicero_123i must say, vlc looks better in kde keramic than win2k default00:56
prince_jammysvlc looks sort of like poop, but its a great app00:57
NickPrestamiladen, /msg ubotu warez if you have any more questions00:57
Cicero_123it does the same thing in vlc player. the buttons like the and things like the clock on the main bar go all colorfully speckled.00:57
Cicero_123escpecially if i run the mouse over them.00:58
nosredna_ekimCicero_123 » are you using compiz right now?00:58
bobbobcan anyone help with networking?00:59
DragnslcrHas anyone tried the Firefox 3 beta from the repository? Does it run well without destroying the Firefox 2 install?00:59
Picachoowhere can i download most popular linux games for free?00:59
ebentonnosredna_ekim: I just ran the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and I still have the same problem.00:59
bobbobyour package manager picachoo00:59
ebentonwhen KDE gets to initializing system services it returns immediately to the kdm01:00
nosredna_ekimebenton » are you sure your /home isn't full?01:00
nosredna_ekimebenton » oh,i've heard that problem before....01:00
ebentonnot full01:00
nosredna_ekimebenton » try this "mv .kde .kde-old" and then try to log in again. that resets all your kde settings01:00
wordhmmm... what should i do if killall -s SIGKILL doesn't work??01:01
bobbobebenton what was the problem?01:01
ebentonnosredna_ekim: trying now01:03
ebentonnosredna_ekim - yipes01:04
ebentona very basic X11 dialog appeared and said it could not start kdserver01:05
sled3does anyone have experience with the Intel PROSet / Wireless network adapter?01:05
sled3I have a Dell Inspiron 6400 notebook01:05
sled3and I don't know if there's a driver01:05
oloughlin75Kubuntu just froze and now I have no sound. It said no mixer was running, adn when I open KMix, there is no current mixer?01:06
wordoloughlin75: try a cold boot, shut down leave it off for a few seconds and start up again01:06
subtrnlsled3➜ Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945 Network Connection driver01:07
nosredna_ekimebenton » ouch.....01:09
nosredna_ekimebenton » run, "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" probably a update flaw.01:09
ebentonalready did01:09
ebentonno love01:09
sled3subtrnl: thx!01:09
felipe_i have an issue01:10
felipe_when i boot the sreen goes black just berofe login01:10
nosredna_ekimebenton » well, thats nasty.01:10
miladenis it unrar -p filename.rar to extract file with pw?01:10
felipe_and only if i press ctrlt alt del the login screen comes up01:10
ebentonnosredna_ekim: you can say that again01:10
felipe_anyone know about this?01:10
wordoloughlin75: success?01:11
oloughlin75word: no and the windows are displaying slow and stuff01:11
subtrnlfelipe_➜ grep -m 1 vga /boot/grub/menu.lst <-- if something turns up, remove any occurance in said file.01:11
miladenis it unrar -p filename.rar to extract file with pw?01:11
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oloughlin75like instead of a quick fade in, it takes a second or two01:11
prince_jammysmiladen: unrar -p the_password filename.rar01:11
prince_jammysmiladen: man unrar01:11
nosredna_ekimebenton » ok, try logging in, then when it fails, switch to a console and run  "cat .xsession-errors"01:12
subtrnlit will prompt for the password if you don't supply it after the -p01:12
nosredna_ekimoloughlin75 » did you just get an update or something?01:12
wordoloughlin75: hmmmm....what were you doing when it crashed?01:12
oloughlin75word➜ I was redirecting to a site to read some news. nosredna_ekim01:12
oloughlin75I did do an update today01:12
oloughlin75not at that moment though01:12
miladenANY1 ?!01:13
subtrnloloughlin75➜ it was ok when nosredna_ekim was using my arrow... not too sure about you01:13
wordoloughlin75: was it a kernel update?01:13
nosredna_ekimoloughlin75 » so, no sound and slow graphics?01:13
oloughlin75:) You saw me using it yesterday didnt you?01:13
oloughlin75nosredna_ekim: yes01:13
oloughlin75word, I didnt check, there was 4 things01:13
wordprobably the kernel update...01:14
nosredna_ekimoloughlin75 » there was a kernel update today....01:14
worda restart would have kicked that in01:14
nosredna_ekimdo you have any older kernels in your grub boot menu?01:14
oloughlin75didnt restart after the install I dont think01:14
wordgoogle for bug reports01:14
wordon the new kernel version01:14
oloughlin75I will reboot and see if theres a new kernal there01:14
felipe_<subtrnl> after the grep this came up: ## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5 .. do i uncomment or remove that?01:15
wordsubtrnl: do you know of a command with more authority to dominate (kill) a process than killall -s SIGKILL?01:15
miladenhowto extract file with pw?01:16
nosredna_ekimword » -901:16
wordnosredna_ekim: -9?01:17
nosredna_ekimword » killall -9 app01:17
wordnosredna_ekim: nope, it still lives01:17
wordwine epically crashed01:17
wordall the rest i could kill, but wineserver refuses to die01:18
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »01:18
prince_jammysmiladen: read "man unrar" or install fileroller01:18
oloughlin75alright, no new kernal listed in grub01:18
oloughlin75which should be a bad sign, right?01:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fileroller - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:18
wordunless the other one got autoremoved or you have it set to only show one kernel01:19
oloughlin75No, its the same 2.6.2x-1401:19
wordopen up adept and do full upgrade and see if a new one is available01:19
oloughlin75full upgrade is not clickable01:19
nosredna_ekimoloughlin75 » it was a minor kernel update.... it wouldn't have a new entry probably.01:19
wordhmm... is it 2.6.22-14.52?01:19
oloughlin75i think it only shows -1401:20
wordexpand it01:20
ubotuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression01:20
oloughlin75whats the command to show the current kernal?01:20
nosredna_ekimoloughlin75 » uname -a01:21
prince_jammysmiladen: yeah but ark doesn't handle passwords, file-roller does01:21
worduname -a doesn't show the .**01:21
prince_jammysmiladen: file-roller is a gnome app01:21
oloughlin752.6.22-14-generic is what it shows01:21
wordgo into adept, click on it to expand it, and look at the version number01:21
wordnot the package name01:22
miladenprince_jammys bad idea?01:22
oloughlin75adept crashed..01:22
prince_jammysmiladen: not really, check to see if it makes you install other stuff01:22
miladendoesnt and works great01:22
prince_jammysmiladen: bingo01:23
prince_jammysmiladen: you got your password protected linux tutorial?01:23
ebentonnosredna_ekim: lots of problems in the .xsession-errors - i'll try to pastbin them01:23
nosredna_ekimebenton » ok01:24
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wordoloughlin75: lol ><01:24
oloughlin75word yeah its .5201:24
miladenprince_jammys yeah :D its great i think01:24
wordso then it looks like something broke for you in the kernel update :-/01:24
miladenbunch of videos01:24
wordeither that or you made some config file changes before restarting01:24
prince_jammysmiladen: :)01:24
miladenprince_jammys ya01:25
oloughlin75I edited the windows effects -- turned them off. would that affect it?01:25
aharoonanyone know how to install uplink game ?? i cannt run the executable file01:25
worddepends on how you editted them01:25
wordbrb restarting to kill this stupid wineserver process..01:26
ebentonnosredna_ekim: http://pastebin.com/d3ad1ae2701:26
oloughlin75restarting again after running alsaconf01:26
whatNowIs user manager not included anymore with 4?01:27
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nosredna_ekimebenton » uhh looks like a problem with your locale,or translation.01:29
oloughlin75alright -- alsaconf didnt do anything. still says no mixer01:29
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oloughlin75is there a way to tell what broke?01:30
sled3do you recommend to download the dvd or the normal cd image ?01:30
nosredna_ekimebenton » show that error to #kde, I can't make heads or tails of it really.01:30
nosredna_ekimwhatNow » uhh yeah, I don't think it is.01:30
ebentonnosredna_ekim: thanks for the assit.01:30
nosredna_ekim1 thing for sure, its not a kernel problem,probably some other package...01:30
oloughlin75any way to narrow it down ;)01:31
wordis there anyway to keep dolphin but make it not the default file manager?01:31
ubotuDolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.01:31
ebentonthere were local updates too so that may have caused some problems01:31
nosredna_ekimoloughlin75 » you could probably go back to the other kernel...01:31
oloughlin75how do I do that?01:32
nosredna_ekimoloughlin75 » try running " sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.22-7-generic"01:34
squarebottleHey, does anybody know off the top of their head the command (is it debconf or something?) to autodetect and setup monitors and stuff?01:35
squarebottleOr is there an even easier way to enable a second monitor if I plug one into my laptop?01:37
Xavier_Zsquarebottle: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:37
hdevalencethere's no other way?01:37
claydohsquarebottle: what video card? nvida has a tool that helps  a lot in the dual monitor area01:37
Xavier_Zsquarebottle: gksudo nvidia-settings01:38
squarebottleIt's a nvidia card, yeah.01:38
squarebottleXavier_Z: You mean, kdesu? Or would I still use gksudo?01:38
claydohbut the commandline setup is imo the best way to set up the basics01:38
Xavier_Zsquarebottle: kdesu01:38
oloughlin75nosred: no old kernals are listed in adept01:38
Xavier_Zsquarebottle: that's assuming you have nvidia-glx installed01:39
tzangergood evening. How would i tell apt to get and forcibly reinstall kopete?  I already have it, but I'd like to replace all th ebinaries with the ones in the package01:39
hdevalencetzanger: do you want to purge config?01:39
claydohyou can reinstall a package in Adept01:39
Xavier_Ztzanger: sudo aptitude reinstall kopete01:39
oloughlin75tzanger:  in adept, there is a reinstall option01:39
tzangerhmm okay01:39
Xavier_Ztzanger: to purge: sudo aptitude purge kopete && sudo aptitude install kopete01:40
tzangerkopete keeps crashing out when msn connects, icq and jabber are fine01:40
squarebottleSo in order of easiness since I'm actually going to be passing this on to somebody else... a run dialog and kdesue nvidia-settings is probably easiest, and sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg would be all commandline? Yes?01:40
Xavier_Ztzanger: to clearn apt-download files: sudo aptitude clean01:40
hdevalencetzanger: wait01:40
hdevalenceI had a similar problem01:40
claydohsquarebottle: yes, assuming you have the nvidia restricted drivers installed, nvidia-settings is the tool01:41
Xavier_Zsquarebottle: yeah01:41
sparr_I need a static linux binary of any program that can write EXIF tags to JPEG images.  exiv2 is my first choice, but I am open to anything.  Where might I find such a thing?01:41
tzangerhdevalence: you did?01:41
hdevalencetry doing a full updgrade in adept or "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" and then resart kopete01:41
hdevalencemine was something about SSL not working01:41
tzangerI can't do a full upgrade right at the moemnt, all the new kde libs/binaries are waiting to download and I am on a slow ass link :-(01:41
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hdevalencetzanger: ick01:42
tzangerdebsums seems to think that everything is fine, but I am not sure why it's crashing :-(01:42
claydohsparr_: why a statc binary01:42
JavaBeansHi all01:43
sparr_claydoh: to be run on a machine with old/missing libraries01:43
hdevalencetzanger: if you do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and see the list of packages it wants to dl, see if there is a crypto one in there01:43
stevarinohi all, does anyone in here use any bluetooth a2dp devices with linux?01:43
hipoploiafter i install nvidia restricted driver all i get is a blank screen after the second restart of the comp......any idea whats causing it ....nvidia 400mx 64mb card01:43
Xavier_Zhipoploi: did you change the driver line in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?01:44
claydohsparr_: dunno, you prob have to compilw it that way yourself. What old distro?01:44
Xavier_Zhipoploi: change "nv" to "nvidia" if you have not01:44
sparr_claydoh: no idea01:44
tzangerhdevalence: I don't see anything sticking out as looking like crypto01:44
hipoploiXavier_Z: what do u mean?01:44
hdevalencetzanger: oh well :(01:45
hdevalencemight not be the same prob anyways01:45
Xavier_Zhipoploi: open xorg.conf: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:45
tzangerhdevalence: yeah I'd thought that too, but thanks for the assistance :-)01:45
claydohsparr_: I wonder if picassa would do that. It is static iirc01:45
JavaBeansAlso don't forget to set your monitor driver01:45
Picachoowine wont allow sounds if i install a windows game by it?01:45
Xavier_Zhipoploi: find line Driver "nv" and change "nv" to "nvidia"01:45
sparr_claydoh: im really trying to avoid "image editors", they tend to muck up other things when manipulating the metadata01:46
JavaBeansElse you will not have many resolutions, the xorg.config is where you need to go to edit if your monitor is not in the standard set of drivers supported by Kubuntu01:46
tzangerhdevalence: it's crapping out trying to print a contact property apparently01:46
oloughlin75My computer froze, and now sound wont work, and graphics are slow. Help please.01:47
oloughlin75no mixer found01:47
nosredna_ekimoloughlin75 » is your graphic card's driver installed?01:47
oloughlin75nosredna_ekim: yes01:47
oloughlin75i reinstalled it to make sure01:48
nosredna_ekimoloughlin75 » does "glxinfo" say you have direct rendering?01:48
Xavier_Zoloughlin75: what did you do before it froze?01:48
tzangerhdevalence: I moved my .kde/share/apps/kopete/contactlist.xml out of the way and msn came up01:48
oloughlin75Xavier_Z: browsing the news and listening to music01:48
BluesKajoloughlin75, cat /proc/asound/cards, in the konsole01:48
hdevalencetzanger: different problem then01:48
Picachooso i can run a windows game in linux with sounds same like i run it in windows?01:49
tzangeri'm a happy camper now, again, thanks for taking a few moments to try to assist, it's appreciated01:49
oloughlin75Xavier_Z: clicked a link01:49
oloughlin75---no sound cards---??01:49
oloughlin75cat /proc/asound/cards says no soundcards01:51
Gun_Smoke/etc/init.d/kdm stop won't stop X???01:51
oloughlin75alsaconf detected the card and i selected it?01:51
Xavier_ZGun_Smoke: KDM is the login manager01:52
oloughlin75modeprobe alsa says module not found, too01:52
nosredna_ekimwell, alsa isn't a module01:53
Gun_SmokeXavier_Z: How would you shut down X to return to a console?01:53
nosredna_ekimoloughlin75 » run "sudo lshw" and look for your sound card01:53
Xavier_Zctrl + alt + (F1 - F4)01:53
Xavier_ZGun_Smoke: ctrl + alt + (F1 - F4)01:54
Gun_SmokeXavier_Z: no, no, no... I'm not interested in that.01:54
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nosredna_ekimGun_Smoke » stopping kdm should shut x down01:54
nosredna_ekimGun_Smoke »  if not... there is an init level for that...01:54
oloughlin75-multimedia UNCLAIMED01:54
oloughlin75          description: Audio device01:54
oloughlin75          product: MCP51 High Definition Audio01:54
nosredna_ekimoloughlin75 » unclaimed.... eh.01:54
nosredna_ekimoloughlin75 » no associated driver01:54
Gun_Smokenosredna_ekim: /etc/init.d/kdm stop isn't doing it for kubuntu... does the trick on Debian.01:54
oloughlin75umm... odd?01:55
oloughlin75i did alsaconf01:55
nosredna_ekimoloughlin75 » certainly, since it was working before...01:55
Gun_Smokenosredna_ekim: I get kdm not running /var/run/pid not found01:56
oloughlin75soo... any ideas what i should do?01:56
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto01:56
nosredna_ekimoloughlin75 » looking01:56
oloughlin75alright -- thanks a lot for the help01:56
nosredna_ekimhe leaves.....meh01:57
oloughlin75idk how it closed lol01:58
nosredna_ekimoloughlin75 » oh... k :) ummm check if the "snd_hda_intel" module is loaded with "lsmod | snd_hda_intel"01:58
nosredna_ekimoloughlin75 » umm.... "lsmod | grep snd_hda_intel"01:58
oloughlin75nothing shown01:59
Cicero_123reHello room01:59
oloughlin75nothing similar in just lsmod, but theres like 6 snd_XXX things02:00
Gun_Smokenosredna_ekim: Nothing on those links seems to apply to me.  Am I missing something?02:00
Gun_Smokenosredna_ekim: I'm not trying to boot or remove services.  I just want to dump X and head back to a console02:02
Cicero_123i still get the 60s psychadelic effect on the buttons when running a dvd. when running in mplayer yakuake freaks out and flashes on and off a few hundered times at blink speed, and then mplayer displays the error "gnome screensaver error" but the movie plays.02:02
Cicero_123i dont suppose there is an easy fix?02:03
nosredna_ekimCicero_123 » are you using compiz?02:04
nosredna_ekimoloughlin75 » what are the XXX's?02:04
nosredna_ekimspecifics please...02:04
oloughlin75hold on firefox isnt letting me right click or copy the pastebin02:05
Xavier_ZCicero_123: it's easy to fix the "gnome screensaver error"02:05
Cicero_123nosredna_ekim: i have tried kaffeine, mplayer, and vlc and i get the psychadelic effects on the console with all of them, excpept that mplayer additionally wigs the shell terminal program out, and dispays the gnome error.02:05
Cicero_123Xavier_Z: keen. thanx, xavier02:06
Cicero_123nosredna_ekim: sorry, i dont know what compiz is.02:06
Xavier_ZCicero_123: open mplayer, right click, preference, Misc Tab, uncheck "stop xscreensaver"02:06
nosredna_ekimCicero_123 » fancy desktop effects02:06
nosredna_ekimoloughlin75 » hrm, ok, those seem to be the sound drivers.... wonder why they aren't accociating ith your device.02:07
Cicero_123nosredna_ekim:  thanx, but will that stop the acid trip special effects on the desktop when a dvd plays?02:09
Cicero_123sigh. nope.02:09
eric__is there a way to get all the album covers from iTunes into Amarok?02:10
Cicero_123but no more gnome error :)02:10
Xavier_ZCicero_123: do you own a laptop with media keys?02:10
Cicero_123no. old homemade desktop running amd with a pc chips motherboard.02:11
nosredna_ekimoloughlin75 » BRB02:11
oloughlin75nosredna_ekim- alsaconf finds hda-intel nVidia blah blah as a card02:11
Cicero_123i can live with the effects since it is just the appearance of the buttons and things that change on the mainbar like the clock and the menus.02:13
oloughlin75Cicero_123- He meant that if you had compiz, try turning off the effects02:13
Cicero_123kde with some added installs to run dvd's; mplayer, kaffeine, and vlc.02:14
snarksterdoes anyone have any idea how to mount a motorola razor02:15
Cicero_123i mean if i am watching a dvd, i wont be pushing many buttons  or running another prog in the foreground anyway.02:16
snarksternah tmobile02:17
NickPrestaCicero_123, in mplayer, (from the console), try: mplayer -vo x11 /path/to/file02:17
oloughlin75not sure how -- i have done it with a program in windows though :/02:17
Cicero_123NickPresta: k02:17
nosredna_ekimoloughlin75 » what.. alsa conf is now showing a card?02:18
oloughlin75it did before02:18
oloughlin75it searches for cards and finds it fine02:19
oloughlin75it says alsa is ready to use after and looks fine... still no sound02:19
oloughlin75snd_hda_intel still isnt in lsmod02:20
nosredna_ekimtry modprobeing snd_hda_intel02:20
Cicero_123NickPresta: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55939/02:20
oloughlin75ATAL: Error inserting snd_hda_intel (/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)02:21
oloughlin75thats not good i take it02:21
nosredna_ekimcheck dmesg02:21
oloughlin75tons of02:21
oloughlin75[ 2154.572000] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_card_disconnect02:22
oloughlin75[ 2154.572000] snd_hda_intel: disagrees about version of symbol snd_pcm_hw_constraint_integer02:22
nosredna_ekimlast line or so02:22
oloughlin75[ 2154.572000] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_pcm_hw_constraint_step02:22
oloughlin75there are a LOT of those02:22
oloughlin75Unknown symble _thing_02:22
NickPrestaCicero_123, replace /path/to/file with a video file (like /home/YOURUSERNAME/video.avi or something) :)02:22
oloughlin75and disagrees about symbol02:22
mrkablesorry, who can help me? i have some problems with my kubuntu02:23
oloughlin75could it be i need to reinstall alsa for the updated kernal?02:23
nosredna_ekimmrkable » whats the problem02:23
NickPrestamrkable, what sort of problems? Explain them in detail so we can help.02:23
mrkableproblem with sound in my laptop02:23
nosredna_ekimoloughlin75 » no....02:23
oloughlin75i had to compile from source for them02:24
oloughlin75didnt know if it matters02:24
nosredna_ekimoloughlin75 » oh really? lol... ya, if you had to compile them from source, you need to do that again :)02:24
nosredna_ekimanytime you install a kernel update, youneed to recompile them..02:24
oloughlin75thats why there are repos? :)02:25
oloughlin75whats the normal source folder for stuff?02:25
oloughlin75like /user/etc/src02:25
oloughlin75isnt there a folder most people use to store all the sources?02:25
oloughlin75common standard?02:25
NickPrestaoloughlin75, I use ~/packages. I store sources, .deb files, etc in there :)02:26
shindahey guys was wondering when I run kcron the edit->run now options is disabled, any ideas why? also anyone know where the logs left by cron/kron are?02:26
nosredna_ekimoloughlin75 » whereever you compiled from last time.02:26
oloughlin75desktop - which i deleted :)02:26
Dr_willis_users would be keeping stuff in their users home dir.02:26
glickhey has anyone installed kubuntu on a dell latitude D830?02:26
oloughlin75im downloading again and wont delete02:26
nosredna_ekimoloughlin75 » you'll need to redownload it.02:26
Dr_willis_the compiled stuff goes to wheever the make scripts tell it to go. :)02:27
nosredna_ekimoloughlin75 » ah ok... then download to where evr you want to,I put source in ~/Downloads/SRC02:27
NickPrestaoloughlin75, redownload, make again, hope nothing has changed, make uninstall.02:27
Dr_willis_glick,  if they say yes..you will ask about a problem.. so why not just state the problem? :)02:27
nosredna_ekimmrkable » could you please be more specific?02:27
glickDr_willis_, your wrong, probably as usualy02:27
NickPrestaglick, what is your problem with the latitude D830?02:28
glickim wondering if there are any problems with it if ubuntu runs nicely on it02:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about laptops - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:28
Dr_willis_glick,  well you aint going to get very far by asking things like that. - You may want to check the ubuntu forums for specific  make/models.02:28
ubotuLaptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org02:28
Dr_willis_See.. you could of just asked that first. :)02:29
oloughlin75nosredna_ekim- thank you a lot for the help02:29
NickPrestaglick, Google should be able to help you for any specific issues. Check out the line ubotu provided to you above. Try the LiveCD. There isn't much else you can do.02:29
Dr_willis_Livecd is always a good test.02:29
mrkablenosredna_ekim > i have no sounds. i have just installed os and dont know what to do02:29
NickPresta!sound | mrkable02:30
ubotumrkable: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP302:30
Dr_willis_With a lot of the newer laptops - alsa needs to get updated to support the newer sound cards.02:30
Cicero_123NickPresta: sigh. i dont know the path. if i assume it is home/eutychus/media/cdrom0 i get "so such file, and directory"02:30
Dr_willis_which can be a bit of a pain for new users.02:30
nosredna_ekimCicero_123 » probably /media/cdrom002:30
oloughlin75is there a script or something that you can make always update sources on kernal updates?02:30
oloughlin75alsa takes like 15-20minutes to compile :/02:31
Dr_willis_oloughlin75,  not that ive noticed.02:31
NickPrestaCicero_123, are you trying to play a DVD?02:31
snarksterwill kandy work motorola razor phone connected via usb?02:31
NickPrestaCicero_123, in the console: mplayer -vo x11 dvd://02:32
nosredna_ekimoloughlin75 » don't think so...02:32
mrkableNickPresta> thx. ill try02:32
NickPrestaCicero_123, should work if it is in a DVD ROM drive.02:32
Cicero_123Playing /media/cdrom0 Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: avisynth.dll, /usr/lib/win32/avisynth.dll, /usr/local/lib/win32/avisynth.dll02:33
Cicero_123Seek failed02:33
Cicero_123yeah. it is a dvd/cdrom burner and player02:34
Cicero_123i am currently trying to play a dvd.02:34
oloughlin75did you install the restricted kubuntu package?02:34
NickPrestaCicero_123, is this a retail DVD? Do you have all the proper codecs? (libdvdcss, etc)02:34
Cicero_123it is an educational video put out by the deptarment of education. let me put in a hollywood dvd and see what happens.02:36
Dr_willis_'educational' :)02:36
NickPrestaCicero_123, usually, that error (the avisynth.dll error) is a sign of a greater problem. Personally, I use Kaffeine to play all my DVDs. No problems there.02:36
Cicero_123all video players have the same problem02:36
ebentonnosredna_ekim: i think I found the problem02:37
Cicero_123mplayer, kaffeine, and vlc02:37
oloughlin75Cicero_123- You are probably missing codecs02:37
NickPrestaCicero_123, was this burned as a DVD or is it just video files burned on the DVD? Can you explore the DVD and try to play the individual files?02:37
ebentonor at least one person's solution to the login failures02:37
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nosredna_ekimebenton » ok...02:38
ebentonnosredna_ekim: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/191327/comments/102:38
ebentonnosredna_ekim: looks like the most recent language-pack-kde-en breaks something02:38
ebentonnow onto restoring my xorg.conf02:39
nosredna_ekimebenton » did you try that?02:39
nosredna_ekimdid it work?02:39
ebentonworks for me (tm)02:39
nosredna_ekimgood to know02:39
nosredna_ekimebenton » might want to move your .kde back02:40
ebentonI already hace02:40
oloughlin75is there a way to restart alsa without restarting my computer?02:40
Cicero_1235th element wont play in anything.02:40
Cicero_123banner of stars wont play either.02:41
nosredna_ekimoloughlin75 » simplist way is to restart since its a kernel level thing02:41
oloughlin75alright, brb02:41
nosredna_ekimCicero_123 » do you have libdvdcss?02:41
Cicero_123i dont know. i dled something to get the dvd to work last night.02:41
Cicero_123nosredna_ekim:  how do i dl the liddvddcss?02:42
Dr_willis_its in the medubuntu repos i think02:42
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs02:42
glickdoes 7.10 come with kde 4?02:43

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