[00:00] <tcm> MrJigsaw: try 'chmod +x amsn-0.97-1.tcl84.x86.package && ./amsn-0.97-1.tcl84.x86.package
[00:00] <nareshov> oloughlin75: there should be some script out there
[00:00] <MrJigsaw> nareshov: when i click on it it opens with vlc
[00:00] <BluesKaj> actaully kopete runs msn very well...better than amsn in my experience
[00:00] <MrJigsaw> everything does for me :S
[00:00] <nareshov> :D
[00:01] <nosredna_ekim> .package? what is THAT?
[00:01] <nareshov> man! what a combo - MSN, TK, PACKAGE ~_~
[00:01] <MrJigsaw> chmod: cannot access `amsn-0.97-1.tcl84.x86.package': No such file or directory <- i get that tcm...
[00:02] <tcm> sudo chmod?
[00:02] <DigiDaemon> Blue: nothing, I think I am just going to get the ATI site binaries and reinstall them and hope they work
[00:03] <MrJigsaw> tcm same error
[00:03] <BluesKaj> DigiDaemon, bummer ...sorry it din't work for you :(
[00:03] <BluesKaj> I don't like fooling with other ppl's xorg.config files ...it's too risky
[00:04] <DigiDaemon> Blue: I understand, but it's it's really broke then install the site binaries and get them right should fix it
[00:04] <miladen> id there a good place to load up on repositories?
[00:05] <subtrnl> NickPresta➜ u around
[00:05] <MrJigsaw> hmm..
[00:05] <MrJigsaw> Why wont that stupid .package thing work
[00:05] <BluesKaj> wel, my experience with the prprietary drivers on gutsy with the X200 card isn't very good ...but it may work for what you need
[00:06] <nosredna_ekim> miladen » make your own repo?
[00:06] <miladen> hehe yea but i dont have any packages to share :)
[00:06] <miladen> holy s**t its valentines day :D
[00:06] <nosredna_ekim> !PPA
[00:06] <ubotu> With Launchpad's Personal Package Archives (PPA), you can build and publish binary Ubuntu packages for multiple architectures simply by uploading an Ubuntu source package to Launchpad. See https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart.
[00:08] <miladen> ubotu i dont understand that
[00:08] <miladen> oh :P
[00:08] <tcm> MrJigsaw: why dont you install it with apt?
[00:08] <BluesKaj> ubotu is a botscript
[00:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a botscript - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:09] <MrJigsaw> Because its an very OLD version tcm.
[00:09] <BluesKaj> :>)
[00:09] <MrJigsaw> i dosent support my resulotion.. i see big pixels :|
[00:10] <tcm> which version is the newest?
[00:10] <Dr_willis> 'look at the size of the pixles on that one!' :)
[00:10] <miladen> I have undestood it like this so far: repositiries are "ftps?" with loads of packages and the more i add the more packages i can get with my adept, right or wrong ?
[00:10] <Dr_willis> miladen,  they are often ftp servers, yes. they can be using http server also.
[00:10] <MrJigsaw> tcm 8.4 is the newest
[00:10] <Dr_willis> more repos = more packages  :)
[00:10] <miladen> Dr_willis then how do i get more of these?
[00:11] <BluesKaj> miladen, to some degree yes , but some repos aren't as safe package wise as others
[00:11] <Dr_willis> Theres dozens of unofficial ones. You should only add the ones you need.
[00:11] <miladen> yeah ok but i dont have a lot of them, arent there a list of good ones that a lot of people have?
[00:11] <Dr_willis> !source-o-matic
[00:11] <ubotu> source-o-matic is not available anymore, please use Software Sources (in your Applications / K menu) to configure your repositories. Do NOT enable "Proposed updates" unless you're willing to test possibly seriously flawed packages.
[00:11] <nosredna_ekim> miladen » you really don't need many more than the ones provided, possibly the WINE repo and trevino's and medibuntu
[00:11] <Dr_willis> Medibunt is a must setup. :)
[00:11] <BluesKaj> bummer about source-o-matic
[00:11] <miladen> yeah but i wanna find some webprogramming repos
[00:12] <tcm> MrJigsaw: 8.4 is the Tcl version
[00:13] <MrJigsaw> Its allso tcl version in repos :)
[00:14] <tcm> MrJigsaw: apt-cache show amsn | grep Version gives: Version: 0.97RC1+dfsg-0ubuntu1
[00:15] <nosredna_ekim> miladen » what do you mean web programming?
[00:15] <oloughlin75> Is there a way to list the artists in mysql that amarok has in its database?
[00:15] <tcm> there is nothing newer then 0.97
[00:15] <miladen> php css mysql tools
[00:15] <MrJigsaw> uhm
[00:15] <MrJigsaw> pretty sure that is..
[00:15] <MrJigsaw> ill contact the dudes at #amsn when they get online..
[00:16] <miladen> nosredna_ekim php css mysql tools
[00:16] <BluesKaj> MrJigsaw, try kopete , you may like it
[00:17] <tcm> MrJigsaw: "What's the one feature you wanted to see the most in 0.97 that didn't make it ?" from the website
[00:17] <MrJigsaw> Think ill stick to pidgin until i get amsn :-)
[00:17] <MrJigsaw> eeh.. i dont get that tcm ?
[00:18] <tcm> 0.97 is the newest release
[00:18] <MrJigsaw> Well..
[00:19] <tcm> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/amsn/amsn-0.97.tar.bz2  <--- link from there downloadsite
[00:19] <MrJigsaw> I dont get that :)
[00:19] <MrJigsaw> Its very sucky then..
[00:19] <tcm> MrJigsaw: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/amsn/aMSN-0.97-windows-installer.exe <--- wininstaller
[00:19] <tcm> MrJigsaw: first was the source code
[00:20] <MrJigsaw> why would i need an .exe in linux ?
[00:20] <MrJigsaw> Im not gonna wine a msn client.. id rather just use pidgin then :)
[00:20] <FaiDillinGer> can someone please tell me what is a good virtualisation software for kubuntu 7.10 ?
[00:21] <tcm> MrJigsaw: run "sudo apt-get install amsn" and you get the newest version. I'm just trying to show you that .97 is the newest
[00:22] <MrJigsaw> I understand
[00:22] <MrJigsaw> but i told you it look crappy and tells me that theyres updates but it cant exicute firefox
[00:22] <MrJigsaw> And now im going to sleep... SLeep well when you reach that point..
[00:23] <tcm> MrJigsaw: read this website http://packages.gentoo.org/package/net-im/amsn
[00:23] <tcm> MrJigsaw: it is the rc1 in apt
[00:25] <alfo_> 1
[00:25] <nosredna_ekim> miladen » those are all in the standard repositories
[00:25] <nosredna_ekim> FaiDillinGer » virtualbox
[00:25] <miladen> not any useful packages such as a real php compiler instead of kate that has no live syntax check
[00:27] <FaiDillinGer> nosredna_ekim: thx, already tried that one....
[00:27] <nosredna_ekim> miladen » ewll, i'm sure its in the repositories,you just have to find the name
[00:27] <nosredna_ekim> !search php
[00:27] <ubotu> Found: latest kde, koffice, thunderbird, newton, flash-also*, amd64-#ubuntu-effects, sharedprinting, download-#kubuntu, kde4, lamp
[00:28] <nosredna_ekim> meh
[00:28] <Dragnslcr> PHP is an interpreted language. The package for the interpreter is php5
[00:29] <Dragnslcr> If you're looking for an IDE other than Kate, KDevelop might have PHP support
[00:29] <SlimeyPete> Quanta does PHP... but then Quanta uses Kate and bolts other stuff on around it
[00:30] <Daisuke_Ido> i wouldn't call kate an ide...  more of a really good gui text editor with syntax highlighting -_-
[00:30] <aharoon> i was using compiz fusion it was slow my pc and i coldnt disaple it so i removed everything related to it from synaptic how i could if everything work fine now?? i feel it still little slow
[00:31] <NickPresta> SlimeyPete, Aptana. Check it out (search Google for link). It is top notch for web dev.
[00:33] <nosredna_ekim> aharoon » did you remove xserver-xgl?
[00:34] <aharoon> i dont know i browsed for compiz and removed everything contain compiz but i think xgl contain proplem how i check it?
[00:35] <miladen> any rapidshare download managers in linux?
[00:35] <nosredna_ekim> aharoon » "apt-cache policy xserver-xgl"
[00:35] <val0> what's the command line to display your swap partion?
[00:36] <nosredna_ekim> free-m ?
[00:36] <nosredna_ekim> free -m
[00:36] <val0> nosredna_ekim: cool
[00:36] <val0> nosredna_ekim: thanks
[00:36] <aharoon> xserver-xgl:
[00:36] <aharoon>   Installed: (none)
[00:36] <aharoon>   Candidate: 1:1.1.99.1~git20070727-0ubuntu3
[00:36] <aharoon>   Version table:
[00:36] <aharoon>      1:1.1.99.1~git20070727-0ubuntu3 0
[00:36] <aharoon>         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/universe Packages
[00:36] <Daisuke_Ido> i'll be glad when that pointless kludge called xgl is dead.
[00:37] <Picachoo> where can i get quality top famouse games that work in linux? or can be run fine with wine?
[00:38] <aharoon> this what i get when i run the command u gave me
[00:38] <Daisuke_Ido> Picachoo: the store.
[00:38] <Daisuke_Ido> we don't assist in piracy, please don't ask about it again
[00:39] <oloughlin75> !piracy
[00:39] <ubotu> piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[00:39] <prince_jammys> Picachoo: compusa, circuitcity, that kind of place
[00:39] <oloughlin75> I am amazed that I am only using 238mb of ram
[00:39] <miladen> who are you saying that to? oloughlin75
[00:39] <nosredna_ekim> aharoon » ok.. so its not installed
[00:39] <oloughlin75> Picachoo➜
[00:40] <ebenton> Did anyone else have problems with the Kernel system updates today?
[00:40] <aharoon> ok then i have to install it is it need any configuration?
[00:40] <nosredna_ekim> ebenton » not really, but there was an update to fix a dangerous security flaw
[00:40] <ebenton> I can no longer get past the kdm login
[00:40] <nosredna_ekim> ebenton » any errors?
[00:41] <Picachoo> prince_jammys ok. any more. good ones?
[00:41] <ebenton> nosredna: I've forgotten where to look to verify errors. Hints?
 then i have to install it is it need any configuration? and could i know what is this for?
[00:43] <miladen> i hate that every1 thinks just because your downloading something from rapidshare its illegal files
[00:43] <miladen> im downloading a video tutorial for linux geeze!
[00:43] <prince_jammys> miladen heh, thats cuz about 96% is illegal
[00:44] <Ms-suse> i pirate all the time
[00:44] <Ms-suse> the illegal stuff
[00:44] <prince_jammys> i figured
[00:44] <miladen> Ms-suse hah you go dude :D
[00:45] <nosredna_ekim> ebenton » check in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:45] <Ms-suse> in most countries around the world there are no such thinks as illegal downloads
[00:45] <Ms-suse> thingsd
[00:45] <Ms-suse> things
[00:46] <nosredna_ekim> Ms-suse » then move there...lol
[00:46] <miladen> nosredna_ekim american? :D
[00:46] <Cicero_123> rehello room. 6 days of kubuntu/linux :)
[00:46] <nosredna_ekim> ^_^
[00:46] <nosredna_ekim> Cicero_123 » hey... congrats
[00:46] <miladen> hehe move "there" like everywhere else is there :D
[00:47] <BluesKaj> Ms-suse, this room doesn't encourage talk of illegal downloads ...we don't need that kind of attention , if you get my drift.
[00:47] <nosredna_ekim> well, gramatically speaking, yes, everywhere else is there
[00:47] <aharoon> do i have to restart after install xserver xgl?
[00:47] <Ms-suse> sure
[00:47] <nosredna_ekim> aharoon » don't install it...
[00:47] <Cicero_123> thanx. when i play a dvd in kaffein all the buttons go weird, and the colors of the main bar go wierd. is that to be expected?
[00:47] <miladen> nosredna_ekim  politically speaking, idiotic :D
[00:47] <nosredna_ekim> Cicero_123 » how do they go wierd
[00:47] <aharoon> then what i have to do??
[00:47] <nosredna_ekim> miladen » so true :)
[00:48] <nosredna_ekim> aharoon » i'm not sure what you problem is
[00:48] <Cicero_123> the colors of the buttons start to turn inverted, and speckled.
[00:48] <aharoon> i did install it
[00:48] <miladen> but im closing in to being the same just in reverse so ill shut up :D
[00:48] <Cicero_123> the main bar looks like an acid trip (according to my baby sitter on what an acid trip would look like)
[00:49] <BluesKaj> Cicero_123, sure
[00:49] <NickPresta> Cicero_123, is this a Kaffein related issue or does it happen with all video players (MPlayer, VLC, etc)?
[00:49] <prince_jammys> nosredna_ekim: there was a guy mike anderson that sat next to me in high school
[00:49] <nosredna_ekim> prince_jammys » certainly wasn't me... i'm in highschool.
[00:49] <Cicero_123> i dont know. i will dl vlc and try it.
[00:49] <prince_jammys> nosredna_ekim: yeah didnt think so
[00:50] <NickPresta> Cicero_123, mplayer is probably easier (and smaller).
[00:50] <BluesKaj> vlc is a great last resort ...it's gui is boring , but it works
[00:50] <aharoon> ok nm but could anyone tell me what is xserver xgl used for?
[00:50] <Cicero_123> k i will try mplayer.  i used vlc on when i had windows.
[00:51] <BluesKaj> vlc is still better
[00:52] <NickPresta> aharoon, it is a GL based X Server. It provides an environment for things like Compiz and such to run. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xgl
[00:52] <aharoon> aha thanks for infos i removed it again
[00:53] <Ms-suse> !kde4
[00:53] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[00:55] <miladen> what are the chances of getting "busted" in linux compared to windows actually? warez wise
[00:55] <NickPresta> miladen, fairly minimal. Don't run executables from sources you don't trust, don't run as root, don't give your password to anyone. You should be safe.
[00:55] <bobbob> hey all
[00:55] <NickPresta> hey bobbob
[00:56] <miladen> NickPresta im talking more in the lines of "busted by the authorities"
[00:56] <miladen> Hey bobbob
[00:56] <prince_jammys> miladen: i would say about the same, since you get busted when you serve files on the web or peer to peer. OS doesnt matter
[00:56] <bobbob> ok i got a network with xp and ubuntu xp can see ubuntu but ubuntu wont show xp?
[00:56] <NickPresta> miladen, if they have your IP address and logs of you downloading illegal files, your OS doesn't matter much.
[00:56] <Cicero_123> i must say, vlc looks better in kde keramic than win2k default
[00:57] <miladen> ok
[00:57] <prince_jammys> vlc looks sort of like poop, but its a great app
[00:57] <NickPresta> miladen, /msg ubotu warez if you have any more questions
[00:57] <Cicero_123> it does the same thing in vlc player. the buttons like the and things like the clock on the main bar go all colorfully speckled.
[00:58] <Cicero_123> escpecially if i run the mouse over them.
[00:58] <nosredna_ekim> Cicero_123 » are you using compiz right now?
[00:59] <bobbob> can anyone help with networking?
[00:59] <Dragnslcr> Has anyone tried the Firefox 3 beta from the repository? Does it run well without destroying the Firefox 2 install?
[00:59] <Picachoo> where can i download most popular linux games for free?
[00:59] <ebenton> nosredna_ekim: I just ran the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and I still have the same problem.
[00:59] <bobbob> your package manager picachoo
[01:00] <ebenton> when KDE gets to initializing system services it returns immediately to the kdm
[01:00] <nosredna_ekim> ebenton » are you sure your /home isn't full?
[01:00] <nosredna_ekim> ebenton » oh,i've heard that problem before....
[01:00] <ebenton> yup
[01:00] <ebenton> not full
[01:00] <nosredna_ekim> ebenton » try this "mv .kde .kde-old" and then try to log in again. that resets all your kde settings
[01:01] <word> hmmm... what should i do if killall -s SIGKILL doesn't work??
[01:01] <bobbob> ebenton what was the problem?
[01:03] <ebenton> nosredna_ekim: trying now
[01:04] <jireh> kubuntu-es
[01:04] <ebenton> nosredna_ekim - yipes
[01:04] <jireh> #kubuntu-es
[01:05] <ebenton> a very basic X11 dialog appeared and said it could not start kdserver
[01:05] <sled3> hello
[01:05] <sled3> does anyone have experience with the Intel PROSet / Wireless network adapter?
[01:05] <sled3> I have a Dell Inspiron 6400 notebook
[01:05] <sled3> and I don't know if there's a driver
[01:06] <oloughlin75> Kubuntu just froze and now I have no sound. It said no mixer was running, adn when I open KMix, there is no current mixer?
[01:06] <word> oloughlin75: try a cold boot, shut down leave it off for a few seconds and start up again
[01:07] <oloughlin75> ok
[01:07] <subtrnl> sled3➜ Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945 Network Connection driver
[01:09] <nosredna_ekim> ebenton » ouch.....
[01:09] <nosredna_ekim> ebenton » run, "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" probably a update flaw.
[01:09] <ebenton> already did
[01:09] <ebenton> no love
[01:09] <sled3> subtrnl: thx!
[01:10] <felipe_> hi
[01:10] <felipe_> i have an issue
[01:10] <felipe_> when i boot the sreen goes black just berofe login
[01:10] <nosredna_ekim> ebenton » well, thats nasty.
[01:10] <miladen> is it unrar -p filename.rar to extract file with pw?
[01:10] <felipe_> and only if i press ctrlt alt del the login screen comes up
[01:10] <ebenton> nosredna_ekim: you can say that again
[01:10] <felipe_> anyone know about this?
[01:11] <word> oloughlin75: success?
[01:11] <oloughlin75> word: no and the windows are displaying slow and stuff
[01:11] <subtrnl> felipe_➜ grep -m 1 vga /boot/grub/menu.lst <-- if something turns up, remove any occurance in said file.
[01:11] <miladen> is it unrar -p filename.rar to extract file with pw?
[01:11] <oloughlin75> like instead of a quick fade in, it takes a second or two
[01:11] <prince_jammys> miladen: unrar -p the_password filename.rar
[01:11] <prince_jammys> miladen: man unrar
[01:12] <nosredna_ekim> ebenton » ok, try logging in, then when it fails, switch to a console and run  "cat .xsession-errors"
[01:12] <subtrnl> it will prompt for the password if you don't supply it after the -p
[01:12] <nosredna_ekim> oloughlin75 » did you just get an update or something?
[01:12] <word> oloughlin75: hmmmm....what were you doing when it crashed?
[01:12] <oloughlin75> word➜ I was redirecting to a site to read some news. nosredna_ekim
[01:12] <oloughlin75> I did do an update today
[01:12] <oloughlin75> not at that moment though
[01:13] <miladen> ANY1 ?!
[01:13] <subtrnl> oloughlin75➜ it was ok when nosredna_ekim was using my arrow... not too sure about you
[01:13] <word> oloughlin75: was it a kernel update?
[01:13] <nosredna_ekim> oloughlin75 » so, no sound and slow graphics?
[01:13] <oloughlin75> :) You saw me using it yesterday didnt you?
[01:13] <oloughlin75> nosredna_ekim: yes
[01:13] <subtrnl> :>
[01:13] <oloughlin75> word, I didnt check, there was 4 things
[01:14] <word> probably the kernel update...
[01:14] <nosredna_ekim> oloughlin75 » there was a kernel update today....
[01:14] <word> a restart would have kicked that in
[01:14] <nosredna_ekim> do you have any older kernels in your grub boot menu?
[01:14] <oloughlin75> didnt restart after the install I dont think
[01:14] <word> google for bug reports
[01:14] <word> on the new kernel version
[01:14] <oloughlin75> I will reboot and see if theres a new kernal there
[01:14] <oloughlin75> brb
 after the grep this came up: ## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5 .. do i uncomment or remove that?
[01:15] <word> subtrnl: do you know of a command with more authority to dominate (kill) a process than killall -s SIGKILL?
[01:16] <miladen> howto extract file with pw?
[01:16] <nosredna_ekim> word » -9
[01:17] <word> nosredna_ekim: -9?
[01:17] <nosredna_ekim> word » killall -9 app
[01:17] <word> nosredna_ekim: nope, it still lives
[01:17] <nosredna_ekim> wow....
[01:17] <word> wine epically crashed
[01:18] <word> all the rest i could kill, but wineserver refuses to die
[01:18] <oloughlin75> !adeptfix
[01:18] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[01:18] <prince_jammys> miladen: read "man unrar" or install fileroller
[01:18] <oloughlin75> alright, no new kernal listed in grub
[01:18] <oloughlin75> which should be a bad sign, right?
[01:18] <miladen> !fileroller
[01:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fileroller - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:19] <word> unless the other one got autoremoved or you have it set to only show one kernel
[01:19] <oloughlin75> No, its the same 2.6.2x-14
[01:19] <word> open up adept and do full upgrade and see if a new one is available
[01:19] <oloughlin75> full upgrade is not clickable
[01:19] <nosredna_ekim> oloughlin75 » it was a minor kernel update.... it wouldn't have a new entry probably.
[01:19] <word> hmm... is it 2.6.22-14.52?
[01:20] <oloughlin75> i think it only shows -14
[01:20] <word> expand it
[01:20] <prince_jammys> !file-roller
[01:20] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[01:20] <oloughlin75> whats the command to show the current kernal?
[01:21] <nosredna_ekim> oloughlin75 » uname -a
[01:21] <prince_jammys> miladen: yeah but ark doesn't handle passwords, file-roller does
[01:21] <word> uname -a doesn't show the .**
[01:21] <prince_jammys> miladen: file-roller is a gnome app
[01:21] <oloughlin75> 2.6.22-14-generic is what it shows
[01:21] <word> go into adept, click on it to expand it, and look at the version number
[01:22] <word> not the package name
[01:22] <miladen> prince_jammys bad idea?
[01:22] <oloughlin75> adept crashed..
[01:22] <prince_jammys> miladen: not really, check to see if it makes you install other stuff
[01:22] <miladen> doesnt and works great
[01:23] <prince_jammys> miladen: bingo
[01:23] <prince_jammys> miladen: you got your password protected linux tutorial?
[01:23] <ebenton> nosredna_ekim: lots of problems in the .xsession-errors - i'll try to pastbin them
[01:24] <nosredna_ekim> ebenton » ok
[01:24] <word> oloughlin75: lol ><
[01:24] <oloughlin75> word yeah its .52
[01:24] <miladen> prince_jammys yeah :D its great i think
[01:24] <word> so then it looks like something broke for you in the kernel update :-/
[01:24] <miladen> bunch of videos
[01:24] <word> either that or you made some config file changes before restarting
[01:24] <prince_jammys> miladen: :)
[01:25] <miladen> prince_jammys ya
[01:25] <oloughlin75> I edited the windows effects -- turned them off. would that affect it?
[01:25] <word> hmm...
[01:25] <word> might
[01:25] <aharoon> anyone know how to install uplink game ?? i cannt run the executable file
[01:25] <word> depends on how you editted them
[01:25] <oloughlin75> GUI
[01:26] <word> brb restarting to kill this stupid wineserver process..
[01:26] <ebenton> nosredna_ekim: http://pastebin.com/d3ad1ae27
[01:26] <oloughlin75> restarting again after running alsaconf
[01:27] <whatNow> Is user manager not included anymore with 4?
[01:29] <nosredna_ekim> ebenton » uhh looks like a problem with your locale,or translation.
[01:29] <oloughlin75> alright -- alsaconf didnt do anything. still says no mixer
[01:30] <oloughlin75> is there a way to tell what broke?
[01:30] <sled3> do you recommend to download the dvd or the normal cd image ?
[01:30] <nosredna_ekim> ebenton » show that error to #kde, I can't make heads or tails of it really.
[01:30] <ebenton> k
[01:30] <nosredna_ekim> whatNow » uhh yeah, I don't think it is.
[01:30] <ebenton> nosredna_ekim: thanks for the assit.
[01:30] <ebenton> +s
[01:30] <nosredna_ekim> 1 thing for sure, its not a kernel problem,probably some other package...
[01:31] <oloughlin75> any way to narrow it down ;)
[01:31] <word> is there anyway to keep dolphin but make it not the default file manager?
[01:31] <atomicpotato> !dolphin
[01:31] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[01:31] <ebenton> there were local updates too so that may have caused some problems
[01:31] <nosredna_ekim> oloughlin75 » you could probably go back to the other kernel...
[01:32] <oloughlin75> how do I do that?
[01:34] <nosredna_ekim> oloughlin75 » try running " sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.22-7-generic"
[01:35] <squarebottle> Hey, does anybody know off the top of their head the command (is it debconf or something?) to autodetect and setup monitors and stuff?
[01:37] <squarebottle> Or is there an even easier way to enable a second monitor if I plug one into my laptop?
[01:37] <Xavier_Z> squarebottle: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:37] <hdevalence> ew
[01:37] <hdevalence> there's no other way?
[01:37] <claydoh> squarebottle: what video card? nvida has a tool that helps  a lot in the dual monitor area
[01:38] <Xavier_Z> squarebottle: gksudo nvidia-settings
[01:38] <squarebottle> It's a nvidia card, yeah.
[01:38] <squarebottle> Xavier_Z: You mean, kdesu? Or would I still use gksudo?
[01:38] <claydoh> but the commandline setup is imo the best way to set up the basics
[01:38] <Xavier_Z> squarebottle: kdesu
[01:38] <oloughlin75> nosred: no old kernals are listed in adept
[01:38] <Xavier_Z> sorry
[01:39] <Xavier_Z> squarebottle: that's assuming you have nvidia-glx installed
[01:39] <tzanger> good evening. How would i tell apt to get and forcibly reinstall kopete?  I already have it, but I'd like to replace all th ebinaries with the ones in the package
[01:39] <hdevalence> tzanger: do you want to purge config?
[01:39] <claydoh> you can reinstall a package in Adept
[01:39] <Xavier_Z> tzanger: sudo aptitude reinstall kopete
[01:39] <oloughlin75> tzanger:  in adept, there is a reinstall option
[01:39] <tzanger> hmm okay
[01:40] <Xavier_Z> tzanger: to purge: sudo aptitude purge kopete && sudo aptitude install kopete
[01:40] <tzanger> kopete keeps crashing out when msn connects, icq and jabber are fine
[01:40] <squarebottle> So in order of easiness since I'm actually going to be passing this on to somebody else... a run dialog and kdesue nvidia-settings is probably easiest, and sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg would be all commandline? Yes?
[01:40] <hdevalence> tzanger:
[01:40] <hdevalence> err
[01:40] <Xavier_Z> tzanger: to clearn apt-download files: sudo aptitude clean
[01:40] <Xavier_Z> *clean
[01:40] <squarebottle> kdesu*
[01:40] <hdevalence> tzanger: wait
[01:40] <hdevalence> I had a similar problem
[01:41] <claydoh> squarebottle: yes, assuming you have the nvidia restricted drivers installed, nvidia-settings is the tool
[01:41] <Xavier_Z> squarebottle: yeah
[01:41] <sparr_> I need a static linux binary of any program that can write EXIF tags to JPEG images.  exiv2 is my first choice, but I am open to anything.  Where might I find such a thing?
[01:41] <tzanger> hdevalence: you did?
[01:41] <hdevalence> try doing a full updgrade in adept or "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" and then resart kopete
[01:41] <hdevalence> mine was something about SSL not working
[01:41] <tzanger> I can't do a full upgrade right at the moemnt, all the new kde libs/binaries are waiting to download and I am on a slow ass link :-(
[01:42] <hdevalence> tzanger: ick
[01:42] <tzanger> debsums seems to think that everything is fine, but I am not sure why it's crashing :-(
[01:42] <claydoh> sparr_: why a statc binary
[01:43] <JavaBeans> Hi all
[01:43] <sparr_> claydoh: to be run on a machine with old/missing libraries
[01:43] <hdevalence> tzanger: if you do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and see the list of packages it wants to dl, see if there is a crypto one in there
[01:43] <stevarino> hi all, does anyone in here use any bluetooth a2dp devices with linux?
[01:43] <hipoploi> after i install nvidia restricted driver all i get is a blank screen after the second restart of the comp......any idea whats causing it ....nvidia 400mx 64mb card
[01:44] <Xavier_Z> hipoploi: did you change the driver line in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[01:44] <claydoh> sparr_: dunno, you prob have to compilw it that way yourself. What old distro?
[01:44] <Xavier_Z> hipoploi: change "nv" to "nvidia" if you have not
[01:44] <sparr_> claydoh: no idea
[01:44] <tzanger> hdevalence: I don't see anything sticking out as looking like crypto
[01:44] <hipoploi> Xavier_Z: what do u mean?
[01:45] <hdevalence> tzanger: oh well :(
[01:45] <hdevalence> might not be the same prob anyways
[01:45] <Xavier_Z> hipoploi: open xorg.conf: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:45] <tzanger> hdevalence: yeah I'd thought that too, but thanks for the assistance :-)
[01:45] <claydoh> sparr_: I wonder if picassa would do that. It is static iirc
[01:45] <JavaBeans> Also don't forget to set your monitor driver
[01:45] <Picachoo> wine wont allow sounds if i install a windows game by it?
[01:45] <Xavier_Z> hipoploi: find line Driver "nv" and change "nv" to "nvidia"
[01:46] <sparr_> claydoh: im really trying to avoid "image editors", they tend to muck up other things when manipulating the metadata
[01:46] <JavaBeans> Else you will not have many resolutions, the xorg.config is where you need to go to edit if your monitor is not in the standard set of drivers supported by Kubuntu
[01:46] <tzanger> hdevalence: it's crapping out trying to print a contact property apparently
[01:47] <oloughlin75> My computer froze, and now sound wont work, and graphics are slow. Help please.
[01:47] <oloughlin75> no mixer found
[01:47] <nosredna_ekim> oloughlin75 » is your graphic card's driver installed?
[01:47] <oloughlin75> nosredna_ekim: yes
[01:48] <oloughlin75> i reinstalled it to make sure
[01:48] <nosredna_ekim> oloughlin75 » does "glxinfo" say you have direct rendering?
[01:48] <Xavier_Z> oloughlin75: what did you do before it froze?
[01:48] <tzanger> hdevalence: I moved my .kde/share/apps/kopete/contactlist.xml out of the way and msn came up
[01:48] <oloughlin75> Xavier_Z: browsing the news and listening to music
[01:48] <BluesKaj> oloughlin75, cat /proc/asound/cards, in the konsole
[01:48] <hdevalence> tzanger: different problem then
[01:49] <Picachoo> so i can run a windows game in linux with sounds same like i run it in windows?
[01:49] <tzanger> i'm a happy camper now, again, thanks for taking a few moments to try to assist, it's appreciated
[01:49] <oloughlin75> Xavier_Z: clicked a link
[01:49] <oloughlin75> ---no sound cards---??
[01:49] <oloughlin75> wtf
[01:51] <oloughlin75> cat /proc/asound/cards says no soundcards
[01:51] <Gun_Smoke> /etc/init.d/kdm stop won't stop X???
[01:51] <oloughlin75> alsaconf detected the card and i selected it?
[01:52] <Xavier_Z> Gun_Smoke: KDM is the login manager
[01:52] <oloughlin75> modeprobe alsa says module not found, too
[01:53] <nosredna_ekim> well, alsa isn't a module
[01:53] <Gun_Smoke> Xavier_Z: How would you shut down X to return to a console?
[01:53] <oloughlin75> oh
[01:53] <nosredna_ekim> oloughlin75 » run "sudo lshw" and look for your sound card
[01:53] <Xavier_Z> ctrl + alt + (F1 - F4)
[01:54] <Xavier_Z> Gun_Smoke: ctrl + alt + (F1 - F4)
[01:54] <Gun_Smoke> Xavier_Z: no, no, no... I'm not interested in that.
[01:54] <ubuntu> ;
[01:54] <nosredna_ekim> Gun_Smoke » stopping kdm should shut x down
[01:54] <oloughlin75> nosredna_ekim
[01:54] <nosredna_ekim> Gun_Smoke »  if not... there is an init level for that...
[01:54] <MarcoP> ;
[01:54] <oloughlin75> -multimedia UNCLAIMED
[01:54] <oloughlin75>           description: Audio device
[01:54] <oloughlin75>           product: MCP51 High Definition Audio
[01:54] <nosredna_ekim> oloughlin75 » unclaimed.... eh.
[01:54] <oloughlin75> unclaimed?
[01:54] <nosredna_ekim> oloughlin75 » no associated driver
[01:54] <Gun_Smoke> nosredna_ekim: /etc/init.d/kdm stop isn't doing it for kubuntu... does the trick on Debian.
[01:55] <oloughlin75> umm... odd?
[01:55] <oloughlin75> i did alsaconf
[01:55] <nosredna_ekim> oloughlin75 » certainly, since it was working before...
[01:56] <Gun_Smoke> nosredna_ekim: I get kdm not running /var/run/pid not found
[01:56] <oloughlin75> soo... any ideas what i should do?
[01:56] <nosredna_ekim> !init
[01:56] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[01:56] <nosredna_ekim> oloughlin75 » looking
[01:56] <oloughlin75> alright -- thanks a lot for the help
[01:57] <nosredna_ekim> he leaves.....meh
[01:58] <oloughlin75> no
[01:58] <oloughlin75> idk how it closed lol
[01:58] <nosredna_ekim> oloughlin75 » oh... k :) ummm check if the "snd_hda_intel" module is loaded with "lsmod | snd_hda_intel"
[01:58] <nosredna_ekim> oloughlin75 » umm.... "lsmod | grep snd_hda_intel"
[01:59] <oloughlin75> nothing shown
[01:59] <Cicero_123> reHello room
[02:00] <oloughlin75> nothing similar in just lsmod, but theres like 6 snd_XXX things
[02:00] <Gun_Smoke> nosredna_ekim: Nothing on those links seems to apply to me.  Am I missing something?
[02:02] <Gun_Smoke> nosredna_ekim: I'm not trying to boot or remove services.  I just want to dump X and head back to a console
[02:02] <Cicero_123> i still get the 60s psychadelic effect on the buttons when running a dvd. when running in mplayer yakuake freaks out and flashes on and off a few hundered times at blink speed, and then mplayer displays the error "gnome screensaver error" but the movie plays.
[02:03] <Cicero_123> i dont suppose there is an easy fix?
[02:04] <nosredna_ekim> Cicero_123 » are you using compiz?
[02:04] <nosredna_ekim> oloughlin75 » what are the XXX's?
[02:04] <oloughlin75> anything
[02:04] <nosredna_ekim> specifics please...
[02:05] <oloughlin75> hold on firefox isnt letting me right click or copy the pastebin
[02:05] <Xavier_Z> Cicero_123: it's easy to fix the "gnome screensaver error"
[02:05] <oloughlin75> http://pastebin.org/19487
[02:05] <Cicero_123> nosredna_ekim: i have tried kaffeine, mplayer, and vlc and i get the psychadelic effects on the console with all of them, excpept that mplayer additionally wigs the shell terminal program out, and dispays the gnome error.
[02:06] <Cicero_123> Xavier_Z: keen. thanx, xavier
[02:06] <Cicero_123> nosredna_ekim: sorry, i dont know what compiz is.
[02:06] <Xavier_Z> Cicero_123: open mplayer, right click, preference, Misc Tab, uncheck "stop xscreensaver"
[02:06] <nosredna_ekim> Cicero_123 » fancy desktop effects
[02:07] <nosredna_ekim> oloughlin75 » hrm, ok, those seem to be the sound drivers.... wonder why they aren't accociating ith your device.
[02:07] <nosredna_ekim> crimsun....ping?
[02:09] <Cicero_123> nosredna_ekim:  thanx, but will that stop the acid trip special effects on the desktop when a dvd plays?
[02:09] <Cicero_123> sigh. nope.
[02:10] <eric__> is there a way to get all the album covers from iTunes into Amarok?
[02:10] <Cicero_123> but no more gnome error :)
[02:10] <Xavier_Z> Cicero_123: do you own a laptop with media keys?
[02:11] <Cicero_123> no. old homemade desktop running amd with a pc chips motherboard.
[02:11] <nosredna_ekim> oloughlin75 » BRB
[02:11] <oloughlin75> nosredna_ekim- alsaconf finds hda-intel nVidia blah blah as a card
[02:11] <oloughlin75> ok
[02:13] <Cicero_123> i can live with the effects since it is just the appearance of the buttons and things that change on the mainbar like the clock and the menus.
[02:13] <oloughlin75> Cicero_123- He meant that if you had compiz, try turning off the effects
[02:13] <Cicero_123> ic.
[02:14] <Cicero_123> kde with some added installs to run dvd's; mplayer, kaffeine, and vlc.
[02:15] <snarkster> does anyone have any idea how to mount a motorola razor
[02:16] <oloughlin75> verizon?
[02:16] <Cicero_123> i mean if i am watching a dvd, i wont be pushing many buttons  or running another prog in the foreground anyway.
[02:17] <snarkster> nah tmobile
[02:17] <NickPresta> Cicero_123, in mplayer, (from the console), try: mplayer -vo x11 /path/to/file
[02:17] <oloughlin75> not sure how -- i have done it with a program in windows though :/
[02:17] <Cicero_123> NickPresta: k
[02:18] <nosredna_ekim> oloughlin75 » what.. alsa conf is now showing a card?
[02:18] <oloughlin75> it did before
[02:19] <oloughlin75> it searches for cards and finds it fine
[02:19] <oloughlin75> it says alsa is ready to use after and looks fine... still no sound
[02:20] <oloughlin75> snd_hda_intel still isnt in lsmod
[02:20] <nosredna_ekim> try modprobeing snd_hda_intel
[02:20] <Cicero_123> NickPresta: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55939/
[02:21] <oloughlin75> ATAL: Error inserting snd_hda_intel (/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[02:21] <nosredna_ekim> 0.o
[02:21] <oloughlin75> thats not good i take it
[02:21] <nosredna_ekim> check dmesg
[02:21] <oloughlin75> tons of
[02:22] <oloughlin75> [ 2154.572000] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_card_disconnect
[02:22] <oloughlin75> [ 2154.572000] snd_hda_intel: disagrees about version of symbol snd_pcm_hw_constraint_integer
[02:22] <nosredna_ekim> last line or so
[02:22] <nosredna_ekim> bleh....
[02:22] <oloughlin75> [ 2154.572000] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_pcm_hw_constraint_step
[02:22] <oloughlin75> there are a LOT of those
[02:22] <oloughlin75> Unknown symble _thing_
[02:22] <NickPresta> Cicero_123, replace /path/to/file with a video file (like /home/YOURUSERNAME/video.avi or something) :)
[02:22] <oloughlin75> and disagrees about symbol
[02:23] <mrkable> sorry, who can help me? i have some problems with my kubuntu
[02:23] <oloughlin75> could it be i need to reinstall alsa for the updated kernal?
[02:23] <nosredna_ekim> mrkable » whats the problem
[02:23] <NickPresta> mrkable, what sort of problems? Explain them in detail so we can help.
[02:23] <mrkable> problem with sound in my laptop
[02:23] <nosredna_ekim> oloughlin75 » no....
[02:24] <oloughlin75> i had to compile from source for them
[02:24] <oloughlin75> didnt know if it matters
[02:24] <nosredna_ekim> oloughlin75 » oh really? lol... ya, if you had to compile them from source, you need to do that again :)
[02:24] <oloughlin75> blimey
[02:24] <oloughlin75> alright
[02:24] <oloughlin75> thanks
[02:24] <nosredna_ekim> anytime you install a kernel update, youneed to recompile them..
[02:25] <oloughlin75> thats why there are repos? :)
[02:25] <nosredna_ekim> exactly!
[02:25] <Dr_willis_> Yep.
[02:25] <oloughlin75> whats the normal source folder for stuff?
[02:25] <Dr_willis_> stuff?
[02:25] <oloughlin75> like /user/etc/src
[02:25] <oloughlin75> isnt there a folder most people use to store all the sources?
[02:25] <oloughlin75> common standard?
[02:26] <NickPresta> oloughlin75, I use ~/packages. I store sources, .deb files, etc in there :)
[02:26] <shinda> hey guys was wondering when I run kcron the edit->run now options is disabled, any ideas why? also anyone know where the logs left by cron/kron are?
[02:26] <nosredna_ekim> oloughlin75 » whereever you compiled from last time.
[02:26] <oloughlin75> desktop - which i deleted :)
[02:26] <Dr_willis_> users would be keeping stuff in their users home dir.
[02:26] <glick> hey has anyone installed kubuntu on a dell latitude D830?
[02:26] <oloughlin75> im downloading again and wont delete
[02:26] <nosredna_ekim> oloughlin75 » you'll need to redownload it.
[02:27] <Dr_willis_> the compiled stuff goes to wheever the make scripts tell it to go. :)
[02:27] <nosredna_ekim> oloughlin75 » ah ok... then download to where evr you want to,I put source in ~/Downloads/SRC
[02:27] <NickPresta> oloughlin75, redownload, make again, hope nothing has changed, make uninstall.
[02:27] <Dr_willis_> glick,  if they say yes..you will ask about a problem.. so why not just state the problem? :)
[02:27] <nosredna_ekim> mrkable » could you please be more specific?
[02:27] <glick> Dr_willis_, your wrong, probably as usualy
[02:28] <NickPresta> glick, what is your problem with the latitude D830?
[02:28] <glick> im wondering if there are any problems with it if ubuntu runs nicely on it
[02:28] <nosredna_ekim> !laptops
[02:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about laptops - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:28] <Dr_willis_> glick,  well you aint going to get very far by asking things like that. - You may want to check the ubuntu forums for specific  make/models.
[02:28] <nosredna_ekim> !laptop
[02:28] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[02:29] <Dr_willis_> See.. you could of just asked that first. :)
[02:29] <oloughlin75> nosredna_ekim- thank you a lot for the help
[02:29] <NickPresta> glick, Google should be able to help you for any specific issues. Check out the line ubotu provided to you above. Try the LiveCD. There isn't much else you can do.
[02:29] <Dr_willis_> Livecd is always a good test.
[02:29] <mrkable> nosredna_ekim > i have no sounds. i have just installed os and dont know what to do
[02:30] <NickPresta> !sound | mrkable
[02:30] <ubotu> mrkable: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:30] <Dr_willis_> With a lot of the newer laptops - alsa needs to get updated to support the newer sound cards.
[02:30] <Cicero_123> NickPresta: sigh. i dont know the path. if i assume it is home/eutychus/media/cdrom0 i get "so such file, and directory"
[02:30] <Dr_willis_> which can be a bit of a pain for new users.
[02:30] <nosredna_ekim> Cicero_123 » probably /media/cdrom0
[02:30] <oloughlin75> is there a script or something that you can make always update sources on kernal updates?
[02:31] <oloughlin75> alsa takes like 15-20minutes to compile :/
[02:31] <Dr_willis_> oloughlin75,  not that ive noticed.
[02:31] <NickPresta> Cicero_123, are you trying to play a DVD?
[02:31] <Cicero_123> yeah.
[02:31] <snarkster> will kandy work motorola razor phone connected via usb?
[02:32] <NickPresta> Cicero_123, in the console: mplayer -vo x11 dvd://
[02:32] <nosredna_ekim> oloughlin75 » don't think so...
[02:32] <mrkable> NickPresta> thx. ill try
[02:32] <NickPresta> Cicero_123, should work if it is in a DVD ROM drive.
[02:33] <Cicero_123> Playing /media/cdrom0 Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: avisynth.dll, /usr/lib/win32/avisynth.dll, /usr/local/lib/win32/avisynth.dll
[02:33] <Cicero_123> Seek failed
[02:33] <Cicero_123> oops
[02:34] <Cicero_123> yeah. it is a dvd/cdrom burner and player
[02:34] <Cicero_123> i am currently trying to play a dvd.
[02:34] <oloughlin75> did you install the restricted kubuntu package?
[02:34] <NickPresta> Cicero_123, is this a retail DVD? Do you have all the proper codecs? (libdvdcss, etc)
[02:36] <Cicero_123> it is an educational video put out by the deptarment of education. let me put in a hollywood dvd and see what happens.
[02:36] <Dr_willis_> 'educational' :)
[02:36] <NickPresta> Cicero_123, usually, that error (the avisynth.dll error) is a sign of a greater problem. Personally, I use Kaffeine to play all my DVDs. No problems there.
[02:36] <Cicero_123> all video players have the same problem
[02:36] <jalbert> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/02/12/wromeo112.xml
[02:37] <ebenton> nosredna_ekim: i think I found the problem
[02:37] <Cicero_123> mplayer, kaffeine, and vlc
[02:37] <oloughlin75> Cicero_123- You are probably missing codecs
[02:37] <NickPresta> Cicero_123, was this burned as a DVD or is it just video files burned on the DVD? Can you explore the DVD and try to play the individual files?
[02:37] <ebenton> or at least one person's solution to the login failures
[02:38] <nosredna_ekim> ebenton » ok...
[02:38] <ebenton> nosredna_ekim: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/191327/comments/1
[02:38] <ebenton> nosredna_ekim: looks like the most recent language-pack-kde-en breaks something
[02:39] <ebenton> now onto restoring my xorg.conf
[02:39] <nosredna_ekim> ebenton » did you try that?
[02:39] <ebenton> yea
[02:39] <nosredna_ekim> did it work?
[02:39] <ebenton> works for me (tm)
[02:39] <nosredna_ekim> good to know
[02:40] <nosredna_ekim> ebenton » might want to move your .kde back
[02:40] <ebenton> I already hace
[02:40] <ebenton> have
[02:40] <ebenton> thanks
[02:40] <nosredna_ekim> great
[02:40] <oloughlin75> is there a way to restart alsa without restarting my computer?
[02:40] <Cicero_123> 5th element wont play in anything.
[02:41] <Cicero_123> banner of stars wont play either.
[02:41] <nosredna_ekim> oloughlin75 » simplist way is to restart since its a kernel level thing
[02:41] <oloughlin75> alright, brb
[02:41] <nosredna_ekim> Cicero_123 » do you have libdvdcss?
[02:41] <Cicero_123> i dont know. i dled something to get the dvd to work last night.
[02:42] <Cicero_123> nosredna_ekim:  how do i dl the liddvddcss?
[02:42] <Dr_willis_> its in the medubuntu repos i think
[02:42] <Dr_willis_> !dvd
[02:42] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:43] <glick> does 7.10 come with kde 4?