jamesh | steveire: it will if the version in backports has a name newer than it | 00:45 |
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jamesh | e.g. 1.1.10-1ubuntu1 or newer | 00:45 |
steveire | jamesh: Is that consistent with backports naming schemes? | 00:46 |
jamesh | steveire: I don't know | 00:46 |
jamesh | you'd have to check Ubuntu's policies | 00:46 |
steveire | It seems to be. Current latest in gutsy is 1.1.8-2ubuntu2~gutsy1 | 00:46 |
jamesh | I think they usually make sure they have a version number less than the package they've backported | 00:46 |
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ubotu | New bug: #191732 in launchpad-bazaar "Branch summaries are incongruous on project Code page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191732 | 03:26 |
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spiv | Huh, weird. I'm reporting a bug, and just got "A summary is required" even though I entered a summary. And now I can't reproduce it. Very odd. | 05:26 |
jamesh | spiv: maybe you should provide a summary | 05:46 |
spiv | jamesh: I tried that :) | 05:47 |
spiv | In the end, it turns out the bug was already reported anyway. | 05:47 |
pwnguin | im not sure i like this personalization that some LP mailing lists apparently use | 06:04 |
jamesh | pwnguin: Barry's post? It wasn't a mailing list post (although it was about mailing lists) | 06:18 |
* Fujitsu presumes it's using some secret method of emailing all members of a team, which the rest of the world would love but can't have. | 06:21 | |
jamesh | Fujitsu: mail merge | 06:26 |
jamesh | Fujitsu: it's a feature of Microsoft Word | 06:26 |
jamesh | if you are using Outlook, it works really well | 06:26 |
pwnguin | heh | 06:26 |
pwnguin | its rather annoying, as i presume its intended specifically for me | 06:27 |
pwnguin | and requires some direct action hidden somewhere inside that wall of text =( | 06:27 |
Fujitsu | jamesh: Using some public datasource like +rdf? I presumed there might be some magic that was used to email even those who hid their email addresses, which would be very useful. | 06:31 |
jamesh | Fujitsu: it probably did use private data, yes. | 06:31 |
Fujitsu | So yes, it does use some secret method :( | 06:32 |
jamesh | but now we've got mailing lists we could use a less secret method ... | 06:32 |
Fujitsu | Doesn't one have to opt into mailing lists? | 06:33 |
jamesh | yeah | 06:33 |
jamesh | it would make sense to have a beta testers announce list though | 06:34 |
Fujitsu | One of the more recent needs I've seen for this feature was actually to tell people to join a mailing list. It was eventually done by abusing Malone. | 06:34 |
Fujitsu | It would, definitely. | 06:34 |
carlos_ | morning | 08:43 |
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Syntux | How would someone define Launchpad in few words? | 09:56 |
jamesh | Syntux: a website to help manage free software projects | 09:58 |
Syntux | danke | 09:58 |
Ng | the great source code supermarket! | 09:59 |
pygi | hey folks | 10:24 |
pygi | how exactly would branch removal work? :) | 10:24 |
* pygi did read FAQ, yes, and there's no Delete branch magic as suggested there | 10:25 | |
Fujitsu | pygi: It works, except if it has subscribers or is linked to anything else like a bug or blueprint. | 10:28 |
pygi | Fujitsu, it doesn't have them: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mario-danic/+junk/mainline/ | 10:28 |
Fujitsu | pygi: I can't see why you can't delete that. | 10:33 |
Fujitsu | It meets all the requirements that I know of. | 10:33 |
pygi | Fujitsu, perhaps because it's set as a branch for libisofs regardless of the thing that I removed it from a project? | 10:33 |
pygi | it's weird, but oh well | 10:34 |
holtmann | Any update on the pending approval for bluez-gnome translation template. | 10:34 |
Fujitsu | pygi: I have delete buttons for things on various projects. | 10:34 |
Fujitsu | I believe there is meant to be a fix for this (the lack of indication as to what's stopping you from deleting it) soon. | 10:35 |
pygi | then it's just weird | 10:35 |
jamesh | pygi: you can't delete a branch if it has any bug<->branch or blueprint<->branch links or is the main branch of any project release series | 10:37 |
jamesh | pygi: if you remove the links, etc, you can delete the branch | 10:37 |
Fujitsu | Ah, that's it. | 10:39 |
Fujitsu | It's the trunk for libisofs. | 10:39 |
Fujitsu | But that's not shown on the branch page. | 10:39 |
pygi | Fujitsu, yes, I told you that above =) | 10:40 |
pygi | but when I remove it from the project, ie. make it not be a branch of libisofs, the libisofs project still tracks it | 10:40 |
Fujitsu | I thought you just meant it was assigned to that project, not the trunk. | 10:40 |
Fujitsu | Try now. | 10:40 |
Fujitsu | Oh, bah. | 10:40 |
Fujitsu | Why does LP give me permission to see +source when I'm not allowed to do anything on it? | 10:41 |
* pygi will try to go around the need to delete it with bzr upgrade magic | 10:42 | |
Fujitsu | pygi: You need an admin or the owner of the project to remove the reference on https://launchpad.net/libisofs/trunk/+source. | 10:42 |
pygi | ah, right, I forgot I wasnt the admin | 10:43 |
pygi | will solve that soon :) | 10:43 |
pygi | thanks for help Fujitsu | 10:45 |
ubotu | New bug: #191797 in launchpad-bazaar "+source shouldn't trick me into thinking I can change things" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191797 | 11:06 |
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theseinfeld | question: I have build the PPA in the team pages (http://launchpad.net/~libdc1394-dev) but the http://launchpad.net/libdc1394 project page doesn't have PPA and the link to the source package: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/libdc1394-22 says that blah blah There is no current release of this source package in The Hardy Heron.... | 12:16 |
theseinfeld | how do you get that PPA build in the project page? | 12:16 |
theseinfeld | how do you link it there? | 12:16 |
pygi | Fujitsu, I managed to do it, thank you jamesh as well :) | 12:16 |
theseinfeld | anyone here able to answer those questions? | 12:21 |
theseinfeld | cprov "elp!" | 12:22 |
cprov | theseinfeld: you can't link projects & PPA in LP yet, I suggest you to add a link in the project description for now. | 12:24 |
theseinfeld | cprov alrighty then | 12:24 |
theseinfeld | cprov thank you again! | 12:24 |
cprov | theseinfeld: np | 12:25 |
theseinfeld | how do you change the source package name? | 12:25 |
theseinfeld | for example: https://edge.launchpad.net/libdc1394/+distributions it shows 7.10 as libdc1394v2 as it should be libdc1394-22 | 12:26 |
theseinfeld | is this a bug? | 12:26 |
theseinfeld | :D | 12:26 |
Fujitsu | theseinfeld: It's not a bug. Links between packages and projects are maintained manually by various people. | 12:31 |
theseinfeld | thank you Fujitsu | 12:31 |
Fujitsu | Hm, there's no way to delete that link, unfortunately. | 12:32 |
Fujitsu | It's not published in Gutsy, so there's no delete button | 12:32 |
theseinfeld | yes | 12:34 |
theseinfeld | so, Fujitsu, that will be there forever? | 12:35 |
theseinfeld | :D | 12:35 |
Fujitsu | Or until I get around to filing a bug and someone fixes it. | 12:35 |
theseinfeld | That would be nice | 12:36 |
theseinfeld | Thank you Fujitsu | 12:36 |
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kiko | hey Fujitsu, good to see you | 12:53 |
rexbron | Hello everyone. You may have seen me in here asking this question before, but I have now deterimined that the either 1) the PPAquickstart guide is wrong or 2) the distro override feature has not been implimented (even for beta testers) yet. | 13:36 |
rexbron | The passage from the PPA guide is as follows: You can use PPA to build sources from other distributions that use .deb packages. | 13:36 |
rexbron | Upload to ~<lp_name>/ubuntu/<suite> and the suite you specify will override the suite named in the upload changelog. You can upload a source from any Debian-compatible distribution straight to your PPA with no changes required. | 13:36 |
rexbron | I have done a diff only upload to two targets via dput, the only difference between the two being one has ~rexbron/ubuntu/gutsy as the incomming and the gutsy package still get rejected due to the MD5 sums matching an existing package | 13:38 |
rexbron | Perhaps I should file a bug report? | 13:38 |
gmb | rexbron: Give me a second, let me see if I can find someone to answer your question. | 13:40 |
rexbron | :) | 13:40 |
cprov | rexbron: you have upload a diff for a orig that doesn't match the one published in ubuntu archive. | 13:42 |
cprov | rexbron: download the ubuntu orig and re-generate the diff, it will all work. | 13:42 |
rexbron | cprov, this is for packages that are not in the ubuntu archives | 13:43 |
cprov | rexbron: I don't see how exactly this error is related with the changesfile-override feature. | 13:43 |
rexbron | cprov, let me see if I can explain it better | 13:43 |
cprov | rexbron: in this case the diff/dsc doesn't match the orig that you have uploaded to your PPA | 13:44 |
rexbron | cprov, but they do | 13:44 |
rexbron | my gutsy upload is being rejected due to the distro serise being listed as hardy | 13:44 |
rexbron | cprov, Here is the exact error message for the gutsy upload: | 13:45 |
rexbron | Rejected: | 13:45 |
rexbron | The source openlibraries - 0.4.0.svn20080111-0ubuntu1~ppa3 is already accepted in | 13:45 |
rexbron | ubuntu/hardy and you cannot upload the same version within the same distribution. | 13:45 |
rexbron | You have to modify the source version and re-upload. | 13:45 |
cprov | rexbron: so, it's not a checksum error, as you've said. | 13:46 |
rexbron | it was uploaded via dput with an incomming listed as ~rexbron/ubuntu/gutsy | 13:46 |
cprov | rexbron: that's simple, you can't have the same version uploaded twice to the same archive. | 13:46 |
rexbron | the checksums match, but the distro serise has not been changed | 13:47 |
cprov | rexbron: it says "version X is already accepted in hardy", thus you can't not upload it again to gutsy. | 13:47 |
rexbron | cprov, could you look at https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart specifically the "using sources from other distrobutions" section and tell me if that works? | 13:48 |
rexbron | cprov, if it is a case that one must upload gutsy before hardy (makes sense from the distro pov but not so much from a ppa one) then the documentation makes no reference to that fact | 13:48 |
cprov | rexbron: ubuntu, debian, xandros, etc are distributions ... dapper, gutsy, hardy are distroseries. You | 13:49 |
cprov | 've got tricked by the changesfile field name | 13:49 |
rexbron | cprov, fine, then it is a misunderstand on my part, but I still think that it would be a logical extention of that feature. woud it not? | 13:50 |
cprov | rexbron: the natural logic-extension is to allow users to copy-packages within their PPAs | 13:51 |
cprov | rexbron: that's what we do in ubuntu primary archive | 13:51 |
cprov | rexbron: do a single upload and copy source and/or binaries to other distroseries | 13:52 |
rexbron | Sure, that is what I am after | 13:52 |
mrevell | Hey, anyone wanna help push a Launchpad story on Digg? Take a look at http://digg.com/linux_unix/Launchpad_s_source_code_supermarket/ | 13:56 |
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CarlFK | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+package/devscripts how do I report a bug against that? | 14:55 |
kiko | CarlFK, launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug | 14:57 |
kiko | then choose devscripts in the package chooser | 14:57 |
kiko | then go! | 14:57 |
CarlFK | gah. should I report a lp bug? | 14:58 |
kiko | why? | 14:58 |
CarlFK | why isn't there a link from the package page to the report a bug on this package? | 14:58 |
kiko | CarlFK, if it's about that page not having a bugs facet, it's already reported | 14:58 |
kiko | that page is a disaster | 14:58 |
CarlFK | that would be why :) | 14:58 |
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ubotu | New bug: #191852 in launchpad "Don't redirect http://lists.launchpad.net to the help wiki" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191852 | 15:26 |
TomaszD | can someone look into adding a translation template for paprefs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/paprefs/+bug/191854 ? :] | 15:27 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 191854 in paprefs "Translation template unavailable for paprefs" [Undecided,New] | 15:27 |
TomaszD | carlos, my man, hi. Long time no see. Will you look into this please? :] | 15:28 |
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carlos | TomaszD: hi | 15:58 |
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Spads | http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Manual-JIRA-.aspx | 16:10 |
TomaszD | carlos, hello | 16:13 |
theseinfeld | how do you register a release for a package that you are responsible, but your are not a member of the motu team etc.? | 16:28 |
theseinfeld | see https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/libdc1394-22/+builds for reference... | 16:28 |
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carlos | TomaszD: Hi, I cannot do anything about paprefs | 16:36 |
carlos | TomaszD: it's a package from universe, so the only way to get your translation added to the package is that an ubuntu developer adds it directly to the package | 16:37 |
TomaszD | carlos, how can I get a dev to include it? | 16:37 |
carlos | TomaszD: basically what you did should be enough | 16:38 |
TomaszD | ok | 16:38 |
carlos | If you don't see any action, you could try at #ubuntu-devel to see whether any developer is able to handle that bug for you... | 16:38 |
TomaszD | ok, I'll pester them | 16:39 |
* theseinfeld is alone | 16:46 | |
cprov | theseinfeld: what's bothering you ? | 16:48 |
theseinfeld | cprov hehe... the slowness of the revu process? and incapacity to fix some launchpad issues :) | 16:50 |
cprov | theseinfeld: the fact we present https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/libdc1394-22 can be considered a bug itself. I'm working a solution for this. | 16:50 |
theseinfeld | like the thing with the source | 16:50 |
theseinfeld | cpro the libdc1394-22 is one thing, but worse is the libdc1394v2 showing there :( | 16:50 |
cprov | theseinfeld: I can't comment about revu ... but I can help you with LP | 16:51 |
theseinfeld | s/cpro/cprov/ | 16:51 |
theseinfeld | yeah... the beauty of revu :) | 16:51 |
* theseinfeld loves when getting attention from cprov | 16:51 | |
cprov | theseinfeld: currently all known source-names are traversable, including PPA ones. We simply present the warning about the lack of publications in the specific context, which is causing confusion. | 16:52 |
theseinfeld | cprov btw, in PPA if I delete some source packages, they are still in the repository | 16:53 |
theseinfeld | cprov i guess I should submit a bug report to get them clean from the PPA? | 16:53 |
cprov | theseinfeld: my guess is that https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdc1394-22 is also coming from a PPA | 16:53 |
theseinfeld | nope, cprov, I added it myself...don't ask how though, cause I don't remember. The v2 is coming from PPA | 16:54 |
theseinfeld | cprov can you clear the PPA for me? or should I fill a bug report? | 16:54 |
cprov | theseinfeld: no, deletions will be executed 24 hours after the references to the files in question reach 0 | 16:54 |
theseinfeld | there are many packages that are there and they could be deleted as they are absolete | 16:54 |
theseinfeld | cprov hmm | 16:54 |
theseinfeld | cprov who is referencing those files? | 16:55 |
* theseinfeld is wondering... | 16:55 | |
cprov | theseinfeld: did you re-use the orig in the subsequent uploads ? | 16:55 |
theseinfeld | I uploaded new orig with the 2.0.2 from SVN | 16:56 |
theseinfeld | theoretically, cprov, the old one should be clean to be removed... | 16:56 |
theseinfeld | if you go here though: https://edge.launchpad.net/~libdc1394-dev/+archive?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=superseded | 16:56 |
theseinfeld | cprov you see a long list of packages dating from 2.0.0 | 16:56 |
theseinfeld | they show deleted, but they were still in the ppa.launchpad last time when I checked | 16:57 |
theseinfeld | cprov: yep, check this out: http://ppa.launchpad.net/libdc1394-dev/ubuntu/pool/main/libd/libdc1394v2/ | 16:57 |
theseinfeld | cprov if you can explain why this is there, you will solve a big mystery for me | 16:59 |
kiko-fud | **** launchpad meeting in #launchpad-meeting in t-1h | 17:00 |
cprov | theseinfeld: uhm... the binaries generated by you source are not constant | 17:19 |
theseinfeld | constant? | 17:20 |
theseinfeld | cprov are you saying that there is a disturbance in the force? | 17:20 |
* theseinfeld grins. | 17:20 | |
cprov | theseinfeld: see libdc1394v2 - 2.0.0-1ubuntu7, for instance | 17:20 |
theseinfeld | cprov that should be deleted | 17:21 |
theseinfeld | if I click on https://edge.launchpad.net/~libdc1394-dev/+archive/+delete-packages I only see the -22-2.0.2 | 17:22 |
theseinfeld | cprov, if you can delete all the ppa, I would appreciate | 17:22 |
theseinfeld | do you want me to submit a bug on ppa or QA? | 17:22 |
theseinfeld | so you do it in the right way? | 17:22 |
kiko-fud | theseinfeld, you can delete packages yourself, you know? | 17:23 |
theseinfeld | kiko-fud i know. there is something wrong going because they show deleted but they are still there | 17:23 |
cprov | theseinfeld: the very old binaries were not even superseded. | 17:23 |
kiko-fud | ah I see | 17:23 |
theseinfeld | cprov they were my newbie mistakes | 17:24 |
cprov | theseinfeld: the way we do deletions (source-driven) we miss/ignore them. | 17:24 |
theseinfeld | cprov how can we fix this? | 17:24 |
theseinfeld | complete removal and I reupload the latest one? | 17:24 |
* cprov is thinking ... | 17:24 | |
kiko-fud | cprov, can the script be used to delete then? | 17:24 |
* theseinfeld is waiting for the big decission from cprov. | 17:24 | |
cprov | theseinfeld: no, let's learn with this first ... | 17:25 |
cprov | kiko-fud: yes, we can manually delete the forgotten binaries using the cmd-line | 17:25 |
cprov | kiko-fud: but it's sub-optimal ... | 17:25 |
ubotu | New bug: #191887 in rosetta "Translation import queue filter displays inactive projects" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191887 | 17:26 |
cprov | theseinfeld: it's not hard to spot the problem, https://edge.launchpad.net/~libdc1394-dev/+archive?field.name_filter=libdc1394v2&field.status_filter=superseded | 17:26 |
cprov | theseinfeld: if you inspect the details, the "files" will should up when they shouldn't | 17:27 |
theseinfeld | cprov it is true that it says that they have been removed...but why are they still there... | 17:31 |
theseinfeld | cprov I am a bit tired... I will look tomorrow and let you know... | 17:31 |
theseinfeld | cprov let me see if I got it wright: are you saying that because they are superseeded by another version they cannot be removed? | 17:33 |
cprov | theseinfeld: everything marked as *removed* was in fact removed, I'm talking about the records that are not marked as removed ... | 17:33 |
theseinfeld | how can I mark them if they don't show in the ppa? | 17:34 |
cprov | libdc1394v2 - 2.0.0-1ubuntu5 till libdc1394v2 - 2.0.0-1ubuntu7 | 17:34 |
cprov | *exactly*, I'm filling a bug about it. | 17:34 |
theseinfeld | cprov thanks. Going for dinner :) | 17:35 |
cprov | theseinfeld, kiko-fud: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/191892 | 17:38 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 191892 in soyuz "Unsuperseded binaries can't be deleted from PPAs" [Undecided,New] | 17:38 |
ubotu | New bug: #191891 in launchpad "OOPS accessing +expiringmembership for a person." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191891 | 17:46 |
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ubotu | New bug: #191892 in soyuz "Unsuperseded binaries can't be deleted from PPAs" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191892 | 17:50 |
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kiko-fud | **** launchpad meeting in #launchpad-meeting in t-4 minutes | 17:56 |
mrevell | hey dneary, thanks for your mail. | 17:58 |
dneary | Hi mrevell | 17:58 |
dneary | No problem | 17:58 |
dneary | Both positive and negative, I guess | 17:59 |
dneary | When the best thing someone can say about the project is "your tech support team is very nice", you should probably be worried ;) | 17:59 |
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ubotu | New bug: #191899 in launchpad "OOPS renaming a team with a mailing list activated " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191899 | 18:05 |
ubotu | New bug: #191900 in malone "Bug tracker admin: don't auto-add the previous base url as an alias without telling the user" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191900 | 18:10 |
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ubotu | New bug: #191916 in launchpad-bazaar "some LaunchpadTransport methods access backing_transport unconditionally" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191916 | 19:10 |
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mpt | Goooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders! | 20:02 |
thumper | hey mpt | 20:19 |
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ubotu | New bug: #191945 in launchpad "I got an error changing the mailing list contact address" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191945 | 20:50 |
ffm | can I have a release deleted? | 21:03 |
ffm | can someone delete https://edge.launchpad.net/gasp-code/unstable-0.2.x/0.2.0 ? | 21:05 |
mrmonday | how do I mark a milestone as finished? there doesn't seem to be an option on the /+milestone/beta-1/+edit page | 21:08 |
Fujitsu | mrmonday: Does the `Change details' action not take you to a page with an Active flag? | 21:15 |
mrmonday | Fujitsu, no | 21:15 |
AlexC_ | hey all, | 21:16 |
mwhudson | mrmonday: are you a beta tester? | 21:17 |
mwhudson | if not, try on the edge site | 21:17 |
AlexC_ | when registering a new project, at the very bottom it says 'Part Of' and 'Super-project. In Launchpad, we can setup a special "project group" that is an overarching initiative that includes several related projects.' - I'm wondering, how do I actually create this super-project thingy? | 21:17 |
mwhudson | (i think a bug in this area got fixed recently) | 21:17 |
Fujitsu | AlexC_: You have to ask an admin. | 21:18 |
ffm | how do I delete a release? I made it by mistake. | 21:18 |
AlexC_ | Fujitsu, ahh ok, where do I ask - on the mailing lists? | 21:18 |
AlexC_ | Fujitsu, or through the 'Answers' part of LP? | 21:18 |
ffm | AlexC_: the lattter | 21:18 |
ffm | *latter | 21:18 |
mrmonday | mwhudson, thanks, it appears on the beta site :) | 21:18 |
Fujitsu | AlexC_: Answers. | 21:18 |
AlexC_ | ffm, Fujitsu awesome, thanks very much | 21:18 |
Fujitsu | ffm: The same. | 21:18 |
mwhudson | mrmonday: good :) | 21:18 |
Fujitsu | ffm: Ask for it to be done on Answers. | 21:19 |
ffm | Fujitsu: kk. | 21:21 |
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ubotu | New bug: #191966 in launchpad "Over-long project display name/title isn't prohibited" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191966 | 22:21 |
seb128 | hi | 22:22 |
seb128 | can anybody there browse https://launchpad.net/bugs/191065? | 22:22 |
mwhudson | seb128: looks like a private bug | 22:25 |
seb128 | mwhudson: that I noticed ;-) I thought it was breaking the crash retracer ubuntu is using and wanted to untag it but I couldn't open it | 22:27 |
seb128 | mwhudson: but looks like the issue is not specific to this bug so that's alright | 22:27 |
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poolie | who manages Translations? | 22:55 |
lifeless | carlos | 22:56 |
carlos | poolie: danilo, jtv and I | 22:57 |
carlos | poolie: btw, hi :-) | 22:57 |
poolie | hi! | 22:57 |
ubotu | New bug: #191988 in soyuz "corresponding binary package to source package missing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191988 | 23:41 |
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