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| pitti | hi | 13:54 |
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| * mvo_ waves | 13:55 | |
| * tedg yawns | 13:58 | |
| Riddell | abend | 13:58 |
| pedro_ | hello folks ! | 13:58 |
| Keybuk | ... | 14:00 |
| mvo_ | ... | 14:00 |
| Keybuk | now, I would normally at this point be checking the wiki | 14:00 |
| Keybuk | and loading up Launchpad | 14:00 |
| Keybuk | except neither epiphany or firefox want to play with me | 14:01 |
| kwwii | Riddell: it is a bit early to say that :-) | 14:01 |
| Keybuk | :-( | 14:01 |
| mvo_ | links! | 14:01 |
| Riddell | kwwii: moin | 14:01 |
| MacSlow | hi | 14:01 |
| seb128 | Keybuk: did you upgrade epiphany? | 14:01 |
| * MacSlow feels not so well today | 14:01 | |
| seb128 | Keybuk: it has been fixed this morning and the new version is available for a few hours now | 14:02 |
| Keybuk | seb128: I upgraded a couple of hours ago, but I've been in meetings with Mark since then | 14:02 |
| seb128 | ok | 14:02 |
| seb128 | maybe you got the xulrunner update but not the epiphany one | 14:02 |
| asac | Keybuk: blame me ;) | 14:02 |
| Keybuk | maybe | 14:03 |
| Keybuk | firefox is being held now | 14:03 |
| Keybuk | *shrug* | 14:03 |
| Keybuk | Annnnnyway | 14:03 |
| Keybuk | Feature Freeze | 14:03 |
| Keybuk | *scary music* | 14:03 |
| MacSlow | I hate that "sound" | 14:03 |
| pitti | TEH DAY OF RECKONING! | 14:03 |
| Keybuk | I'll run down specs in alphabetical order that aren't marked Beta Available yet | 14:03 |
| MacSlow | and most of that because I suck at packaing | 14:04 |
| Keybuk | an update on where it is, what bits remain, etc. would be appreciated | 14:04 |
| * MacSlow steps at the front of the queue | 14:04 | |
| Keybuk | pitti: partition-management | 14:04 |
| pitti | fsck usplash integration is beta available, rest not started | 14:04 |
| Keybuk | (I may have lied about alphabetical order, I've clicked something on LP and it's gone random on me) | 14:04 |
| pitti | I might get to it a bit later, so that it'll either land in hardy+1, hardy.1, or hardy if I get a FF exception | 14:05 |
| Keybuk | ok, we talked about this on the phone yesterday - the other bits are a "nice to have" but we won't mind if we don't get them | 14:05 |
| pitti | but it's low prio | 14:05 |
| pitti | right | 14:05 |
| Keybuk | so it's a good side project while you fix bugs, but don't spend much time on it | 14:05 |
| Keybuk | it can go in a PPA, or it might make the release | 14:05 |
| pitti | I definitively need to sort out root partition fsck, though | 14:05 |
| Keybuk | yes, that would be very good | 14:05 |
| Keybuk | what's the timescale on that? | 14:06 |
| pitti | it works with ext3, but immediately kills your reiserfs root partition :) | 14:06 |
| pitti | Keybuk: today is crazy (merging Arne's langpack stuff, MIRs, NEW, etc.) | 14:06 |
| pitti | is 'by next meeting' acceptable? | 14:06 |
| pitti | (note that I didn't modify checkroot.sh for that reason, it won't kill kittens until then) | 14:06 |
| kwwii | reiserfs killing things, like father like son? | 14:07 |
| MacSlow | kwwii, that was nasty | 14:07 |
| kwwii | I'll shut up now | 14:07 |
| mvo_ | pitti: the langpack changes are in? | 14:07 |
| pitti | mvo_: I spent an hour reviewing and fixing the branch, not yet | 14:07 |
| pitti | I'll continue after meeting | 14:07 |
| pitti | but I shuold be able to get it in today | 14:07 |
| tedg | kwwii: Oh, I was thinking that too -- couldn't figure out phrasing :) | 14:07 |
| mvo_ | pitti: ok, language-selector need to be updated then as well | 14:07 |
| pitti | mvo_: why? | 14:08 |
| pitti | mvo_: we still have language-support-XX meta-meta-packages | 14:08 |
| mvo_ | pitti: aha, good. then its not a must-have | 14:08 |
| pitti | or do you actually want to add knobs for part installations? | 14:08 |
| pitti | like, 'only input support and translation aids'? | 14:08 |
| Keybuk | pitti: by next meeting would be great | 14:08 |
| mvo_ | it was planed to add the knobs, but I'm not sure how far arne went down this path | 14:08 |
| pitti | Keybuk: ack | 14:09 |
| mvo_ | pitti: I personally think that its not that important, the common case is well covered, I will still double check that the transition does not break assumptions in it | 14:09 |
| * pitti hugs mvo_ | 14:09 | |
| Keybuk | ok | 14:09 |
| Keybuk | pitti: hardy-reducing-duplication | 14:10 |
| pitti | that has come quite far | 14:10 |
| pitti | I hope that we can kill gcc-4.1 when the kernel folks manage to build with 4.2 on ppc and hppa | 14:10 |
| pitti | the rest is "utterly hard and requires lots of upstream work" and thus unrealistic | 14:11 |
| Keybuk | I assume that there's no major pieces of work there, other than killing more deps? | 14:11 |
| pitti | right; as I wrote in the status window yesterday, it's just gcc-4.1 left for hardy | 14:11 |
| Keybuk | ok | 14:11 |
| pitti | perhaps db4.2 if a miracle happens with openldap | 14:11 |
| pitti | but that's a target of opportunity | 14:11 |
| Keybuk | ok, cool | 14:12 |
| Keybuk | Riddell: gold star ;) | 14:12 |
| Riddell | yay | 14:12 |
| Keybuk | mvo_: likewise | 14:12 |
| * mvo_ beams | 14:13 | |
| Keybuk | kwwii: your specs should probably not have been specs | 14:13 |
| kwwii | Keybuk: yeah, I am glad that we agree on that :-) | 14:13 |
| Keybuk | MacSlow: hardy-desktop-effects-shortcuts | 14:13 |
| MacSlow | Keybuk, are exposed in pager, show-desktop-applet and window-action-menu | 14:14 |
| Keybuk | what's missing on the spec? | 14:14 |
| MacSlow | most of the stuff needed to patch libwnck | 14:14 |
| Keybuk | that gives us which bits? | 14:14 |
| MacSlow | Keybuk, nothing I guess | 14:15 |
| Keybuk | are the keyboard shortcuts showing up in the general preferences dialog? | 14:15 |
| pitti | I get kb shortcuts help in the pager and in the window menu now | 14:15 |
| MacSlow | there's a small tweak I still like to do for the pager-tooltip... have the stuff for expo, scale and zoom only show up if these plugins are actually active | 14:16 |
| MacSlow | Keybuk, that's what mvo did | 14:16 |
| Keybuk | they don't show up here :-/ | 14:16 |
| MacSlow | Keybuk, and that's... urps | 14:16 |
| mvo_ | Keybuk: oh? they should be available under compiz | 14:16 |
| Keybuk | mvo_: that sounds like a bug ;) | 14:16 |
| mvo_ | Keybuk: however there is a bug in super key | 14:16 |
| mvo_ | Keybuk: I mean, the super key is not displayed nor can be set | 14:17 |
| Keybuk | yeah, my oldest reported Ubuntu bug <g> | 14:17 |
| seb128 | mvo_: there is no compiz in the shortcuts dialog | 14:17 |
| mvo_ | I think I can fix the display bit | 14:17 |
| mvo_ | its under desktop | 14:17 |
| Keybuk | MacSlow: hardy-desktop-effects-profiles | 14:17 |
| Keybuk | mvo_: oh, wait "initiate window picker" ? | 14:17 |
| mvo_ | yes | 14:18 |
| mvo_ | the descriptions suck | 14:18 |
| MacSlow | Keybuk, stuck about "half-way-through" due to packaging issues | 14:18 |
| mvo_ | but that can be fixed realtively easily | 14:18 |
| Keybuk | MacSlow: what are the packaging problems? | 14:18 |
| seb128 | MacSlow: feel free to ask on #ubuntu-desktop when you have packaging issues | 14:18 |
| lool | Yeah, same offer here; plenty of packager around to help you :) | 14:18 |
| seb128 | or in query | 14:18 |
| lool | +s | 14:18 |
| mvo_ | ++ | 14:18 |
| mvo_ | from me | 14:18 |
| lool | GIVE US THE BLING | 14:19 |
| Keybuk | MacSlow: sounds like there's plenty of people to help ;) | 14:19 |
| MacSlow | Keybuk, profile selection and recognition in g-c-c works... simple-ccsm bits still todo... all of it not in repos yet due to me sucking at packaging (being slow) | 14:19 |
| * Keybuk has had a lunch-time conversation with mdz today about sucking less at a company at getting training for new people | 14:20 | |
| MacSlow | Keybuk, beta for profiles is +2 days I guess | 14:20 |
| Keybuk | especially in packaging, but also in things like our release cycle, processes, etc. | 14:20 |
| MacSlow | Keybuk, lost some days last week due to packaing issues | 14:20 |
| Keybuk | MacSlow: ok, let us say Thursday next week for -profiles | 14:20 |
| MacSlow | Keybuk, that sounds doable | 14:20 |
| Keybuk | there weren't any remaining pieces in hardy-desktop-effects right? | 14:21 |
| MacSlow | Keybuk, no... was more of a "meta-spec" and umbrella for profiles, shortcuts and general integration work | 14:21 |
| Keybuk | (the remaining pieces on my list are covered by profiles) | 14:21 |
| Keybuk | ok | 14:21 |
| Keybuk | that's beta available then <g> | 14:21 |
| Keybuk | please update the status | 14:21 |
| MacSlow | Keybuk, well if I get libcompizconfig and g-c-c sorted out packagin-wise part of it can already land today | 14:22 |
| Keybuk | hardy-shine and sparkle aren't really on the 8.04 list, and neither is gdm-face-browser (though it's targetted for May) | 14:22 |
| MacSlow | Keybuk, only creating a custom-profile via simple-ccsm will probably not land today | 14:22 |
| Keybuk | ok, thanks | 14:23 |
| Keybuk | tedg: about-this-computer | 14:23 |
| tedg | I need to finish the package, but that should be done today. | 14:23 |
| Keybuk | do you need help with the packaging? | 14:23 |
| MacSlow | Keybuk, I'm looking forward to continue working on those... mostly because that's a bit more focues and sounds less like packaing-work needed ehre and there :) | 14:23 |
| tedg | I got all the python build stuff done yesterday, but starting on Debian stuff today. | 14:23 |
| tedg | Keybuk: Not yet :) I probably will later today. | 14:24 |
| Keybuk | MacSlow: we do need to get you up to speed on packaging though | 14:24 |
| seb128 | same sa MacSlow, feel free to ask on IRC or by mail since it's harder to use on IRC when on different timezones | 14:24 |
| Keybuk | I'll sort something out and let you know as soon as I can | 14:24 |
| Riddell | tedg: how's the qt side? | 14:24 |
| tedg | Riddell: Not great, but I was told that can be a bugfix and wasn't required for FF. | 14:24 |
| Keybuk | kwwii: I might rope you into that too, since it'd help you unblock artwork issues if you know the basics | 14:24 |
| MacSlow | Keybuk, seb128: yes... some intense "become a real MOTU/deb-dev" is something I seriously need | 14:24 |
| kwwii | Keybuk: okidoki | 14:24 |
| tedg | Riddell: I also need to figure out which KDE package to adjust to put it somewhere. | 14:25 |
| Riddell | tedg: right | 14:25 |
| tedg | Riddell: I figure I'll ask when I have the QT one working better. | 14:25 |
| tedg | I do also have a gnome-panel patch that puts it in the panel. | 14:25 |
| Riddell | tedg: that's not hard, although it does need doing twice for KDEs 3 and 4 | 14:25 |
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| Keybuk | cleanup-audio-jumble I think colin was going to track that with Luke and ask you for help as needed? or are there remaining bits on your plate? | 14:26 |
| MacSlow | seb128, isn't there also some deb-dev related talk at FOSDEM next week? | 14:26 |
| tedg | There are a couple of remaining bits on my plate. Not a lot though, Luke already had a lot done. | 14:26 |
| Keybuk | could you send me a mail cataloguing the remaining bits there? | 14:27 |
| Riddell | MacSlow: I'm doing that | 14:27 |
| MacSlow | Riddell, ok... then I'll be in the audience! | 14:27 |
| tedg | Keybuk: Sounds good. | 14:28 |
| Keybuk | seb128: you have a pppoeconf-gui assigned to you? | 14:28 |
| Keybuk | didn't that one get a "go straight to implemented, thanks upstream!" pass? | 14:29 |
| seb128 | Keybuk: yes it did | 14:29 |
| Keybuk | ah, it's beta available | 14:29 |
| Keybuk | sorry | 14:29 |
| Keybuk | I'm blind | 14:29 |
| lool | So that's provided by NM now? | 14:30 |
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| Keybuk | lool: gnome-system-tools iirc | 14:31 |
| lool | Aha | 14:31 |
| seb128 | lool: yes, network-admin does that | 14:31 |
| Keybuk | ok, I'd like to run back through you all again to confirm what you'll be working on for the next couple of months | 14:31 |
| lool | Indeed, 2.21.3, pretty cool | 14:31 |
| Keybuk | (not just for yours and my sake, but for the rest of the team as well :p) | 14:32 |
| * lool will try the UMTS support then | 14:32 | |
| seb128 | lool: you are welcome to test if you use pppoe ;-) | 14:32 |
| seb128 | that too | 14:32 |
| Keybuk | mpt is on leave, but he'll be working on some early sketches and mockups for the 8.10 UI Refresh | 14:32 |
| lool | (I don't have pppoe that I know of) | 14:32 |
| Keybuk | he's also available for UI critique/help, but as we get closer to Beta, UI shouldn't be changing much :-) | 14:32 |
| Keybuk | kwwii: what will you be working on? | 14:32 |
| kwwii | Keybuk: finishing up the UI mockups, finalizing panel icons, getting the wallpaper for 8.04 ready, looking in to making that look good with gdm | 14:33 |
| Keybuk | UI mockups for the 8.10 theme? | 14:34 |
| kwwii | oh, and the clear looks stuff | 14:34 |
| Keybuk | when's the clearlooks change likely to happen? | 14:34 |
| kwwii | Keybuk: yes | 14:34 |
| Keybuk | and when will we see the first 8.04 wallpaper idea? | 14:34 |
| seb128 | Keybuk: when will mpt be back? | 14:34 |
| kwwii | Keybuk: I would like to test it out in the next day or two | 14:34 |
| Keybuk | seb128: monday | 14:34 |
| seb128 | ok | 14:34 |
| kwwii | Keybuk: the first one should be in already (if pitti or seb included it yesterday) | 14:34 |
| seb128 | doh, didn't | 14:35 |
| kwwii | I put the source package online for them to check | 14:35 |
| seb128 | pitti: did you? ;-) | 14:35 |
| pitti | o_O? no, I'm not aware of it | 14:35 |
| pitti | I don't have a mail about it | 14:35 |
| seb128 | I've been busy debugging g-p-m and forget | 14:35 |
| seb128 | pitti: he asked on #ubuntu-desktop | 14:35 |
| * pitti looks in his spam folder | 14:35 | |
| pitti | oh, then I probably missed that, sorry; I get too much IRC stuff ATM (FF crazyness) | 14:35 |
| seb128 | pitti: yesterday afternoon | 14:35 |
| seb128 | no problem | 14:36 |
| Keybuk | ok, which of you will do that for Ken? :) | 14:36 |
| seb128 | I said I would look at it if you didn't and I've been busy with other things | 14:36 |
| seb128 | kwwii: what is the URL again? | 14:36 |
| kwwii | seb128, pitti: I'll send an email with the urls | 14:36 |
| Keybuk | so for 8.04, we're using clearlooks and having new wallpaper | 14:36 |
| pitti | so, no ubuntu theme any more? | 14:37 |
| kwwii | right | 14:37 |
| seb128 | kwwii: don't bother I'll look at it now | 14:37 |
| kwwii | and perhaps a gdm update | 14:37 |
| Keybuk | 8.10 you're preparing some mock-ups I can hand around when I'm in the office next week (so, err, soon please :p) | 14:37 |
| seb128 | Keybuk: that is good news ;-) | 14:37 |
| seb128 | clearlooks with orange colors, right? | 14:37 |
| kwwii | Keybuk: right, I'll get that done by tomorrow | 14:37 |
| Keybuk | ok | 14:37 |
| pitti | heh, and I was about to report a bug report against compiz which always has blue window decorations at startup until I start gnome-appearance-properties :) | 14:37 |
| Keybuk | tedg: what will you be working on? | 14:37 |
| Keybuk | pitti: metacity does that too sometimes, apparentlyt | 14:37 |
| mvo | pitti: meh, a race condition | 14:38 |
| seb128 | pitti: that's a known bug, I've been pinged mvo every now and then about it :-) | 14:38 |
| mvo | seb128: you have fix, no? | 14:38 |
| mvo | its just not applied yet because I'm not 100% confident in it | 14:38 |
| seb128 | Keybuk: that would be weird, never noticed that, but compiz does it almost every time | 14:38 |
| seb128 | mvo: well, using dbus again for the decorator | 14:38 |
| pitti | never saw it with metacity either | 14:38 |
| Keybuk | seb128: desrt thought it was pretty, and made a real theme that does it on purpose | 14:38 |
| tedg | Keybuk: Audio jumble bits probably first, as to get that out of the way. Then I need to really start on GPM bugs, I've let it linger and they've collected. | 14:38 |
| Keybuk | tedg: *nods* :-) | 14:39 |
| seb128 | Keybuk: ;-) | 14:39 |
| Keybuk | tedg: and gnome-screensaver needs some harsh love too | 14:39 |
| seb128 | tedg: agree, I started looking at those yesterday, they is 300 bugs, 200 of them are NEW which means ignored | 14:39 |
| seb128 | s/they/there | 14:39 |
| MacSlow | seb128, aren't these bugs mostly compiz/DRI issues? | 14:40 |
| seb128 | maybe we can convince pedro_ to organise a bug day to clean some of those ;-) | 14:40 |
| tedg | Yeah, the crux of the problem is trying to figure out where in the system things broke down. Half the time GPM is just the messenger. | 14:40 |
| kwwii | Keybuk: btw, I sent you a tar.bz2 with the raw pics for the 8.10 mockups a few days ago | 14:40 |
| pedro_ | seb128: only if we have some debugging instructions ;-) | 14:40 |
| Keybuk | tedg: if you need a hand understanding HAL, pitti can help | 14:40 |
| pitti | tedg: right, I guess many hw specific issues are hal or pm-utils bugs | 14:40 |
| seb128 | MacSlow: the theme one? it's a race between the gnome-settings-daemon and the decorator | 14:40 |
| Keybuk | if you need a hand with packaging, anyone can help | 14:40 |
| Keybuk | kwwii: you did indeed :-) | 14:41 |
| MacSlow | seb128, no the 200 new screensaver-bugs | 14:41 |
| seb128 | MacSlow: I was speaking about gnome-power-manager | 14:41 |
| Keybuk | ok | 14:41 |
| Keybuk | Riddell: what will you be doing? | 14:41 |
| mvo | MacSlow: there shouldn't be many, we run fullscreen windows unredirected | 14:41 |
| MacSlow | seb128, mixed up the context then | 14:41 |
| seb128 | tedg: ^ what pedro said, if you could write a wiki page on how to triage g-p-m bugs that would be useful | 14:41 |
| Riddell | Keybuk: KDE 4 CDs (just stuck on a bug, I think cjwatson_ needs to look), KDE 3.5.9 packaging, KDE 4.0.2 packaging, getting out all the bugs in the hardy features | 14:41 |
| mvo | so games are (most of the time) fine too | 14:41 |
| MacSlow | mvo, that's what got me wondering | 14:41 |
| Keybuk | Riddell: did you get unblocked on the seeds? have you spoken to colin about the bug? | 14:41 |
| Riddell | Keybuk: yes, spent most of yesterday working on it with his help | 14:42 |
| mvo | pedro_ is a wizard, he did wonders on the update-manager bug count (similar problem, most of the time its just the messanger) | 14:42 |
| MacSlow | mvo, all of these issues never happened to me after gutsy was released... maybe a bit earlier | 14:42 |
| tedg | seb128, pedro_: My goal was to go through and start triaging to write the instructions. | 14:42 |
| pedro_ | i was about to organize one based on pidgin next week but we can delay that and organize a gpm one | 14:42 |
| Riddell | Keybuk: it's all there but breaks somewhere that I can't work out | 14:42 |
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| Keybuk | cjwatson: ^ :-) | 14:42 |
| cjwatson | yeah, I saw, it's something to do with the universe mirroring process | 14:43 |
| * pedro_ hugs mvo | 14:43 | |
| seb128 | tedg: good | 14:43 |
| tedg | pedro_: No, I think two would be better, give me a chance to get some good instructions together. | 14:43 |
| cjwatson | I've seen it before in other flavours that build from universe | 14:43 |
| cjwatson | I'm happy that the bulk of the work is in place though | 14:43 |
| * seb128 hugs pedro_ | 14:43 | |
| pedro_ | tedg: ok cool! | 14:43 |
| * pedro_ hugs seb128 back | 14:43 | |
| cjwatson | Riddell: I actually suspect that it would work eventually if you kept retrying - it's a race between the main and universe mirroring processes AFAICS | 14:44 |
| Keybuk | ok | 14:44 |
| Keybuk | pitti: what will you be working on? | 14:44 |
| pitti | my next tasks, in decreasing priority: discuss some language-support-* reorganization problems with Arne (will slip FF then, as he is already asleep), debug and fix the fsck+usplash+rootfs issue, start working on general bug fixing and catc | 14:44 |
| pitti | hing up on my bugs folder | 14:44 |
| pitti | so I already need a FF exception for the language-support-* split | 14:45 |
| pitti | (which is relatively unintrusive, but arne put in loads of new packages which need review and discussion) | 14:45 |
| pitti | for the record, we are currently on top of the MIR queue \o/ | 14:47 |
| Keybuk | *nods* | 14:47 |
| Keybuk | lots and lots of general bug fixing? :) | 14:47 |
| pitti | (almost all bugs are incomplete or done) | 14:47 |
| lool | pitti: Cool, thanks for the UME stuff, that was probably lots of work! | 14:47 |
| pitti | Keybuk: my "in progress" list needs urgent attention :) | 14:47 |
| Keybuk | :-) | 14:47 |
| Keybuk | mvo: and how about you? | 14:48 |
| mvo | next tasks: | 14:48 |
| mvo | • update-manager bugfixing, more robustness | 14:48 |
| mvo | • compiz updates for the upcomming fusion 0.7 release | 14:48 |
| mvo | • trying to catchup on my bug mail | 14:48 |
| mvo | upgrade testing | 14:48 |
| mvo | general maintainance (desktop database update, command-not-found data update, ddtp update) | 14:48 |
| Keybuk | mvo: if you could take first-pass over compiz bugs (Mirco has some 8.10 things to deliver early) that would be much appreciated | 14:48 |
| * mvo nods | 14:48 | |
| mvo | sure, I will do that | 14:48 |
| Keybuk | thanks | 14:49 |
| Keybuk | MacSlow: ? | 14:49 |
| * MacSlow thanks mvo too | 14:49 | |
| MacSlow | * finish desktop-effect-profiles | 14:49 |
| MacSlow | * sparkle | 14:49 |
| MacSlow | * shine | 14:49 |
| MacSlow | * gdm-face-browser | 14:49 |
| Keybuk | so to expand on that for the others | 14:50 |
| Keybuk | Mark is very keen for us to demonstrate some of the 8.10 pieces early | 14:50 |
| MacSlow | (in between getting up to speed with Xorg/DRI, clutter and some newer OpenGL-stuff) | 14:50 |
| Keybuk | (ie. at UDS) | 14:50 |
| Keybuk | the chosen piece is face browser | 14:50 |
| Keybuk | so Mirco will be implementing that before UDS, so we can show it off there | 14:50 |
| Keybuk | and will therefore beat everyone at getting the first Implemented hardy+1 spec :-) | 14:51 |
| Keybuk | (those who've been at this company for a while will recognise that "very keen" is an understatement :p) | 14:51 |
| Keybuk | and last, but no means least | 14:53 |
| Keybuk | Loic and Seb | 14:53 |
| MacSlow | Keybuk, I guess it means it the highest prio it can ever have, right?! :) | 14:53 |
| seb128 | GNOME updates and desktop bugs fixing | 14:53 |
| lool | For the desktop half of things: | 14:54 |
| lool | • Continue misc stuff; usually GNOME updates and bug chasing | 14:54 |
| lool | • If time permits, resume work on the "memory requirements" topic | 14:54 |
| Keybuk | ok | 14:55 |
| Keybuk | and pedro_ will be helping us with QA wherever it's needed | 14:55 |
| seb128 | lot of testing, making sure all strings are translatable, etc too | 14:55 |
| Keybuk | except those " " ones that preferences dialogs seem to like? :) | 14:56 |
| seb128 | pedro_ rocks on desktop bug triage ;-) | 14:56 |
| pitti | has there been any outcome on login speed testing? | 14:56 |
| seb128 | pitti: not really, we could win a bit without deskbar-applet | 14:56 |
| seb128 | otherwise to obvious target | 14:56 |
| seb128 | gconf and disk fragmentation don't help | 14:56 |
| seb128 | there is some user comments about readahead on the launchpad bug saying that makes quite a difference but nobody really worked on a clean solution to do that yet | 14:57 |
| lool | If gconf's disk fragmentation is an issue, we could schedule a periodical check like fsck to rebuild the gconf tree on login | 14:57 |
| Keybuk | ok, I've got to run to the team leads meeting now, so I'll have to adjourn the meeting :) | 14:57 |
| Keybuk | we've hit an hour anyway | 14:57 |
| Keybuk | if there are other agenda items, please carry on and discuss, and I'll keep an eye on the log | 14:58 |
| pitti | thanks everyone | 14:58 |
| mvo | I would like to ask about the feeling of samba-share vs. shares-admin (from gnome-system-tools) | 14:58 |
| MacSlow | ok... I'll get back to my packaing-battle... and come crying in #ubuntu-devel if I'm totally lost | 14:59 |
| mvo | IMHO the samba-shares has the nicer gui and seems to be generally easier now that we have the samba usershares enabled by default | 14:59 |
| MacSlow | Riddell, ehm... when is you talk at fosdem? | 15:10 |
| MacSlow | Riddell, I just skimmed the pages on the fosdem'08 site and did not find it | 15:10 |
| pitti | mvo: where does samba-share come from? not g-s-t apparently? | 15:11 |
| Riddell | MacSlow: http://www.fosdem.org/2008/schedule/devroom/crossdesktop | 15:13 |
| mvo | pitti: nautilus-share is a seperate package (sorry for the confusion with the packagename) | 15:13 |
| mvo | its in the archive already | 15:13 |
| mvo | not enough sleep :/ | 15:14 |
| MacSlow | Riddell, ah thanks! | 15:14 |
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| zul | @schedule montreal | 16:37 |
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