[13:54] <pitti> hi
[13:55]  * mvo_ waves
[13:58]  * tedg yawns
[13:58] <Riddell> abend
[13:58] <pedro_> hello folks !
[14:00] <Keybuk> ...
[14:00] <mvo_> ...
[14:00] <Keybuk> now, I would normally at this point be checking the wiki
[14:00] <Keybuk> and loading up Launchpad
[14:01] <Keybuk> except neither epiphany or firefox want to play with me
[14:01] <kwwii> Riddell: it is a bit early to say that :-)
[14:01] <Keybuk> :-(
[14:01] <mvo_> links!
[14:01] <Riddell> kwwii: moin
[14:01] <MacSlow> hi
[14:01] <seb128> Keybuk: did you upgrade epiphany?
[14:01]  * MacSlow feels not so well today
[14:02] <seb128> Keybuk: it has been fixed this morning and the new version is available for a few hours now
[14:02] <Keybuk> seb128: I upgraded a couple of hours ago, but I've been in meetings with Mark since then
[14:02] <seb128> ok
[14:02] <seb128> maybe you got the xulrunner update but not the epiphany one
[14:02] <asac> Keybuk: blame me ;)
[14:03] <Keybuk> maybe
[14:03] <Keybuk> firefox is being held now
[14:03] <Keybuk> *shrug*
[14:03] <Keybuk> Annnnnyway
[14:03] <Keybuk> Feature Freeze
[14:03] <Keybuk> *scary music*
[14:03] <MacSlow> I hate that "sound"
[14:03] <pitti> TEH DAY OF RECKONING!
[14:03] <Keybuk> I'll run down specs in alphabetical order that aren't marked Beta Available yet
[14:04] <MacSlow> and most of that because I suck at packaing
[14:04] <Keybuk> an update on where it is, what bits remain, etc. would be appreciated
[14:04]  * MacSlow steps at the front of the queue
[14:04] <Keybuk> pitti: partition-management
[14:04] <pitti> fsck usplash integration is beta available, rest not started
[14:04] <Keybuk> (I may have lied about alphabetical order, I've clicked something on LP and it's gone random on me)
[14:05] <pitti> I might get to it a bit later, so that it'll either land in hardy+1, hardy.1, or hardy if I get a FF exception
[14:05] <Keybuk> ok, we talked about this on the phone yesterday - the other bits are a "nice to have" but we won't mind if we don't get them
[14:05] <pitti> but it's low prio
[14:05] <pitti> right
[14:05] <Keybuk> so it's a good side project while you fix bugs, but don't spend much time on it
[14:05] <Keybuk> it can go in a PPA, or it might make the release
[14:05] <pitti> I definitively need to sort out root partition fsck, though
[14:05] <Keybuk> yes, that would be very good
[14:06] <Keybuk> what's the timescale on that?
[14:06] <pitti> it works with ext3, but immediately kills your reiserfs root partition :)
[14:06] <pitti> Keybuk: today is crazy (merging Arne's langpack stuff, MIRs, NEW, etc.)
[14:06] <pitti> is 'by next meeting' acceptable?
[14:06] <pitti> (note that I didn't modify checkroot.sh for that reason, it won't kill kittens until then)
[14:07] <kwwii> reiserfs killing things, like father like son?
[14:07] <MacSlow> kwwii, that was nasty
[14:07] <kwwii> I'll shut up now
[14:07] <mvo_> pitti: the langpack changes are in?
[14:07] <pitti> mvo_: I spent an hour reviewing and fixing the branch, not yet
[14:07] <pitti> I'll continue after meeting
[14:07] <pitti> but I shuold be able to get it in today
[14:07] <tedg> kwwii: Oh, I was thinking that too -- couldn't figure out phrasing :)
[14:07] <mvo_> pitti: ok, language-selector need to be updated then as well
[14:08] <pitti> mvo_: why?
[14:08] <pitti> mvo_: we still have language-support-XX meta-meta-packages
[14:08] <mvo_> pitti: aha, good. then its not a must-have
[14:08] <pitti> or do you actually want to add knobs for part installations?
[14:08] <pitti> like, 'only input support and translation aids'?
[14:08] <Keybuk> pitti: by next meeting would be great
[14:08] <mvo_> it was planed to add the knobs, but I'm not sure how far arne went down this path
[14:09] <pitti> Keybuk: ack
[14:09] <mvo_> pitti: I personally think that its not that important, the common case is well covered, I will still double check that the transition does not break assumptions in it
[14:09]  * pitti hugs mvo_
[14:09] <Keybuk> ok
[14:10] <Keybuk> pitti: hardy-reducing-duplication
[14:10] <pitti> that has come quite far
[14:10] <pitti> I hope that we can kill gcc-4.1 when the kernel folks manage to build with 4.2 on ppc and hppa
[14:11] <pitti> the rest is "utterly hard and requires lots of upstream work" and thus unrealistic
[14:11] <Keybuk> I assume that there's no major pieces of work there, other than killing more deps?
[14:11] <pitti> right; as I wrote in the status window yesterday, it's just gcc-4.1 left for hardy
[14:11] <Keybuk> ok
[14:11] <pitti> perhaps db4.2 if a miracle happens with openldap
[14:11] <pitti> but that's a target of opportunity
[14:12] <Keybuk> ok, cool
[14:12] <Keybuk> Riddell: gold star ;)
[14:12] <Riddell> yay
[14:12] <Keybuk> mvo_: likewise
[14:13]  * mvo_ beams
[14:13] <Keybuk> kwwii: your specs should probably not have been specs
[14:13] <kwwii> Keybuk: yeah, I am glad that we agree on that :-)
[14:13] <Keybuk> MacSlow: hardy-desktop-effects-shortcuts
[14:14] <MacSlow> Keybuk, are exposed in pager, show-desktop-applet and window-action-menu
[14:14] <Keybuk> what's missing on the spec?
[14:14] <MacSlow> most of the stuff needed to patch libwnck
[14:14] <Keybuk> that gives us which bits?
[14:15] <MacSlow> Keybuk, nothing I guess
[14:15] <Keybuk> are the keyboard shortcuts showing up in the general preferences dialog?
[14:15] <pitti> I get kb shortcuts help in the pager and in the window menu now
[14:16] <MacSlow> there's a small tweak I still like to do for the pager-tooltip... have the stuff for expo, scale and zoom only show up if these plugins are actually active
[14:16] <MacSlow> Keybuk, that's what mvo did
[14:16] <Keybuk> they don't show up here :-/
[14:16] <MacSlow> Keybuk, and that's... urps
[14:16] <mvo_> Keybuk: oh? they should be available under compiz
[14:16] <Keybuk> mvo_: that sounds like a bug ;)
[14:16] <mvo_> Keybuk: however there is a bug in super key
[14:17] <mvo_> Keybuk: I mean, the super key is not displayed nor can be set
[14:17] <Keybuk> yeah, my oldest reported Ubuntu bug <g>
[14:17] <seb128> mvo_: there is no compiz in the shortcuts dialog
[14:17] <mvo_> I think I can fix the display bit
[14:17] <mvo_> its under desktop
[14:17] <Keybuk> MacSlow: hardy-desktop-effects-profiles
[14:17] <Keybuk> mvo_: oh, wait "initiate window picker" ?
[14:18] <mvo_> yes
[14:18] <mvo_> the descriptions suck
[14:18] <MacSlow> Keybuk, stuck about "half-way-through" due to packaging issues
[14:18] <mvo_> but that can be fixed realtively easily
[14:18] <Keybuk> MacSlow: what are the packaging problems?
[14:18] <seb128> MacSlow: feel free to ask on #ubuntu-desktop when you have packaging issues
[14:18] <lool> Yeah, same offer here; plenty of packager around to help you :)
[14:18] <seb128> or in query
[14:18] <lool> +s
[14:18] <mvo_> ++
[14:18] <mvo_> from me
[14:19] <lool> GIVE US THE BLING
[14:19] <Keybuk> MacSlow: sounds like there's plenty of people to help ;)
[14:19] <MacSlow> Keybuk, profile selection and recognition in g-c-c works... simple-ccsm bits still todo... all of it not in repos yet due to me sucking at packaging (being slow)
[14:20]  * Keybuk has had a lunch-time conversation with mdz today about sucking less at a company at getting training for new people
[14:20] <MacSlow> Keybuk, beta for profiles is +2 days I guess
[14:20] <Keybuk> especially in packaging, but also in things like our release cycle, processes, etc.
[14:20] <MacSlow> Keybuk, lost some days last week due to packaing issues
[14:20] <Keybuk> MacSlow: ok, let us say Thursday next week for -profiles
[14:20] <MacSlow> Keybuk, that sounds doable
[14:21] <Keybuk> there weren't any remaining pieces in hardy-desktop-effects right?
[14:21] <MacSlow> Keybuk, no... was more of a "meta-spec" and umbrella for profiles, shortcuts and general integration work
[14:21] <Keybuk> (the remaining pieces on my list are covered by profiles)
[14:21] <Keybuk> ok
[14:21] <Keybuk> that's beta available then <g>
[14:21] <Keybuk> please update the status
[14:22] <MacSlow> Keybuk, well if I get libcompizconfig and g-c-c sorted out packagin-wise part of it can already land today
[14:22] <Keybuk> hardy-shine and sparkle aren't really on the 8.04 list, and neither is gdm-face-browser (though it's targetted for May)
[14:22] <MacSlow> Keybuk, only creating a custom-profile via simple-ccsm will probably not land today
[14:23] <Keybuk> ok, thanks
[14:23] <Keybuk> tedg: about-this-computer
[14:23] <tedg> I need to finish the package, but that should be done today.
[14:23] <Keybuk> do you need help with the packaging?
[14:23] <MacSlow> Keybuk, I'm looking forward to continue working on those... mostly because that's a bit more focues and sounds less like packaing-work needed ehre and there :)
[14:23] <tedg> I got all the python build stuff done yesterday, but starting on Debian stuff today.
[14:24] <tedg> Keybuk: Not yet :)  I probably will later today.
[14:24] <Keybuk> MacSlow: we do need to get you up to speed on packaging though
[14:24] <seb128> same sa MacSlow, feel free to ask on IRC or by mail since it's harder to use on IRC when on different timezones
[14:24] <Keybuk> I'll sort something out and let you know as soon as I can
[14:24] <Riddell> tedg: how's the qt side?
[14:24] <tedg> Riddell: Not great, but I was told that can be a bugfix and wasn't required for FF.
[14:24] <Keybuk> kwwii: I might rope you into that too, since it'd help you unblock artwork issues if you know the basics
[14:24] <MacSlow> Keybuk, seb128: yes... some intense "become a real MOTU/deb-dev" is something I seriously need
[14:24] <kwwii> Keybuk: okidoki
[14:25] <tedg> Riddell: I also need to figure out which KDE package to adjust to put it somewhere.
[14:25] <Riddell> tedg: right
[14:25] <tedg> Riddell: I figure I'll ask when I have the QT one working better.
[14:25] <tedg> I do also have a gnome-panel patch that puts it in the panel.
[14:25] <Riddell> tedg: that's not hard, although it does need doing twice for KDEs 3 and 4
[14:26] <Keybuk> cleanup-audio-jumble I think colin was going to track that with Luke and ask you for help as needed?  or are there remaining bits on your plate?
[14:26] <MacSlow> seb128, isn't there also some deb-dev related talk at FOSDEM next week?
[14:26] <tedg> There are a couple of remaining bits on my plate.  Not a lot though, Luke already had a lot done.
[14:27] <Keybuk> could you send me a mail cataloguing the remaining bits there?
[14:27] <Riddell> MacSlow: I'm doing that
[14:27] <MacSlow> Riddell, ok... then I'll be in the audience!
[14:28] <tedg> Keybuk: Sounds good.
[14:28] <Keybuk> seb128: you have a pppoeconf-gui assigned to you?
[14:29] <Keybuk> didn't that one get a "go straight to implemented, thanks upstream!" pass?
[14:29] <seb128> Keybuk: yes it did
[14:29] <Keybuk> ah, it's beta available
[14:29] <Keybuk> sorry
[14:29] <Keybuk> I'm blind
[14:30] <lool> So that's provided by NM now?
[14:31] <Keybuk> lool: gnome-system-tools iirc
[14:31] <lool> Aha
[14:31] <seb128> lool: yes, network-admin does that
[14:31] <Keybuk> ok, I'd like to run back through you all again to confirm what you'll be working on for the next couple of months
[14:31] <lool> Indeed, 2.21.3, pretty cool
[14:32] <Keybuk> (not just for yours and my sake, but for the rest of the team as well :p)
[14:32]  * lool will try the UMTS support then
[14:32] <seb128> lool: you are welcome to test if you use pppoe ;-)
[14:32] <seb128> that too
[14:32] <Keybuk> mpt is on leave, but he'll be working on some early sketches and mockups for the 8.10 UI Refresh
[14:32] <lool> (I don't have pppoe that I know of)
[14:32] <Keybuk> he's also available for UI critique/help, but as we get closer to Beta, UI shouldn't be changing much :-)
[14:32] <Keybuk> kwwii: what will you be working on?
[14:33] <kwwii> Keybuk: finishing up the UI mockups, finalizing panel icons, getting the wallpaper for 8.04 ready, looking in to making that look good with gdm
[14:34] <Keybuk> UI mockups for the 8.10 theme?
[14:34] <kwwii> oh, and the clear looks stuff
[14:34] <Keybuk> when's the clearlooks change likely to happen?
[14:34] <kwwii> Keybuk: yes
[14:34] <Keybuk> and when will we see the first 8.04 wallpaper idea?
[14:34] <seb128> Keybuk: when will mpt be back?
[14:34] <kwwii> Keybuk: I would like to test it out in the next day or two
[14:34] <Keybuk> seb128: monday
[14:34] <seb128> ok
[14:34] <kwwii> Keybuk: the first one should be in already (if pitti or seb included it yesterday)
[14:35] <seb128> doh, didn't
[14:35] <kwwii> I put the source package online for them to check
[14:35] <seb128> pitti: did you? ;-)
[14:35] <pitti> o_O? no, I'm not aware of it
[14:35] <pitti> I don't have a mail about it
[14:35] <seb128> I've been busy debugging g-p-m and forget
[14:35] <seb128> pitti: he asked on #ubuntu-desktop
[14:35]  * pitti looks in his spam folder
[14:35] <pitti> oh, then I probably missed that, sorry; I get too much IRC stuff ATM (FF crazyness)
[14:35] <seb128> pitti: yesterday afternoon
[14:36] <seb128> no problem
[14:36] <Keybuk> ok, which of you will do that for Ken? :)
[14:36] <seb128> I said I would look at it if you didn't and I've been busy with other things
[14:36] <seb128> kwwii: what is the URL again?
[14:36] <kwwii> seb128, pitti: I'll send an email with the urls
[14:36] <Keybuk> so for 8.04, we're using clearlooks and having new wallpaper
[14:37] <pitti> so, no ubuntu theme any more?
[14:37] <kwwii> right
[14:37] <seb128> kwwii: don't bother I'll look at it now
[14:37] <kwwii> and perhaps a gdm update
[14:37] <Keybuk> 8.10 you're preparing some mock-ups I can hand around when I'm in the office next week (so, err, soon please :p)
[14:37] <seb128> Keybuk: that is good news ;-)
[14:37] <seb128> clearlooks with orange colors, right?
[14:37] <kwwii> Keybuk: right, I'll get that done by tomorrow
[14:37] <Keybuk> ok
[14:37] <pitti> heh, and I was about to report a bug report against compiz which always has blue window decorations at startup until I start gnome-appearance-properties :)
[14:37] <Keybuk> tedg: what will you be working on?
[14:37] <Keybuk> pitti: metacity does that too sometimes, apparentlyt
[14:38] <mvo> pitti: meh, a race condition
[14:38] <seb128> pitti: that's a known bug, I've been pinged mvo every now and then about it :-)
[14:38] <mvo> seb128: you have fix, no?
[14:38] <mvo> its just not applied yet because I'm not 100% confident in it
[14:38] <seb128> Keybuk: that would be weird, never noticed that, but compiz does it almost every time
[14:38] <seb128> mvo: well, using dbus again for the decorator
[14:38] <pitti> never saw it with metacity either
[14:38] <Keybuk> seb128: desrt thought it was pretty, and made a real theme that does it on purpose
[14:38] <tedg> Keybuk: Audio jumble bits probably first, as to get that out of the way.  Then I need to really start on GPM bugs, I've let it linger and they've collected.
[14:39] <Keybuk> tedg: *nods* :-)
[14:39] <seb128> Keybuk: ;-)
[14:39] <Keybuk> tedg: and gnome-screensaver needs some harsh love too
[14:39] <seb128> tedg: agree, I started looking at those yesterday, they is 300 bugs, 200 of them are NEW which means ignored
[14:39] <seb128> s/they/there
[14:40] <MacSlow> seb128, aren't these bugs mostly compiz/DRI issues?
[14:40] <seb128> maybe we can convince pedro_ to organise a bug day to clean some of those ;-)
[14:40] <tedg> Yeah, the crux of the problem is trying to figure out where in the system things broke down.  Half the time GPM is just the messenger.
[14:40] <kwwii> Keybuk: btw, I sent you a tar.bz2 with the raw pics for the 8.10 mockups a few days ago
[14:40] <pedro_> seb128: only if we have some debugging instructions ;-)
[14:40] <Keybuk> tedg: if you need a hand understanding HAL, pitti can help
[14:40] <pitti> tedg: right, I guess many hw specific issues are hal or pm-utils bugs
[14:40] <seb128> MacSlow: the theme one? it's a race between the gnome-settings-daemon and the decorator
[14:40] <Keybuk> if you need a hand with packaging, anyone can help
[14:41] <Keybuk> kwwii: you did indeed :-)
[14:41] <MacSlow> seb128, no the 200 new screensaver-bugs
[14:41] <seb128> MacSlow: I was speaking about gnome-power-manager
[14:41] <Keybuk> ok
[14:41] <Keybuk> Riddell: what will you be doing?
[14:41] <mvo> MacSlow: there shouldn't be many, we run fullscreen windows unredirected
[14:41] <MacSlow> seb128, mixed up the context then
[14:41] <seb128> tedg: ^ what pedro said, if you could write a wiki page on how to triage g-p-m bugs that would be useful
[14:41] <Riddell> Keybuk: KDE 4 CDs (just stuck on a bug, I think cjwatson_ needs to look), KDE 3.5.9 packaging, KDE 4.0.2 packaging, getting out all the bugs in the hardy features
[14:41] <mvo> so games are (most of the time) fine too
[14:41] <MacSlow> mvo, that's what got me wondering
[14:41] <Keybuk> Riddell: did you get unblocked on the seeds?  have you spoken to colin about the bug?
[14:42] <Riddell> Keybuk: yes, spent most of yesterday working on it with his help
[14:42] <mvo> pedro_ is a wizard, he did wonders on the update-manager bug count (similar problem, most of the time its just the messanger)
[14:42] <MacSlow> mvo, all of these issues never happened to me after gutsy was released... maybe a bit earlier
[14:42] <tedg> seb128, pedro_: My goal was to go through and start triaging to write the instructions.
[14:42] <pedro_> i was about to organize one based on pidgin next week but we can delay that and organize a gpm one
[14:42] <Riddell> Keybuk: it's all there but breaks somewhere that I can't work out
[14:42] <Keybuk> cjwatson: ^ :-)
[14:43] <cjwatson> yeah, I saw, it's something to do with the universe mirroring process
[14:43]  * pedro_ hugs mvo
[14:43] <seb128> tedg: good
[14:43] <tedg> pedro_: No, I think two would be better, give me a chance to get some good instructions together.
[14:43] <cjwatson> I've seen it before in other flavours that build from universe
[14:43] <cjwatson> I'm happy that the bulk of the work is in place though
[14:43]  * seb128 hugs pedro_
[14:43] <pedro_> tedg: ok cool!
[14:43]  * pedro_ hugs seb128 back
[14:44] <cjwatson> Riddell: I actually suspect that it would work eventually if you kept retrying - it's a race between the main and universe mirroring processes AFAICS
[14:44] <Keybuk> ok
[14:44] <Keybuk> pitti: what will you be working on?
[14:44] <pitti> my next tasks, in decreasing priority: discuss some language-support-* reorganization problems with Arne (will slip FF then, as he is already asleep), debug and fix the fsck+usplash+rootfs issue, start working on general bug fixing and catc
[14:44] <pitti> hing up on my bugs folder
[14:45] <pitti> so I already need a FF exception for the language-support-* split
[14:45] <pitti> (which is relatively unintrusive, but arne put in loads of new packages which need review and discussion)
[14:47] <pitti> for the record, we are currently on top of the MIR queue \o/
[14:47] <Keybuk> *nods*
[14:47] <Keybuk> lots and lots of general bug fixing? :)
[14:47] <pitti> (almost all bugs are incomplete or done)
[14:47] <lool> pitti: Cool, thanks for the UME stuff, that was probably lots of work!
[14:47] <pitti> Keybuk: my "in progress" list needs urgent attention :)
[14:47] <Keybuk> :-)
[14:48] <Keybuk> mvo: and how about you?
[14:48] <mvo> next tasks:
[14:48] <mvo> • update-manager bugfixing, more robustness
[14:48] <mvo> • compiz updates for the upcomming fusion 0.7 release
[14:48] <mvo> • trying to catchup on my bug mail
[14:48] <mvo> upgrade testing
[14:48] <mvo> general maintainance (desktop database update, command-not-found data update, ddtp update)
[14:48] <Keybuk> mvo: if you could take first-pass over compiz bugs (Mirco has some 8.10 things to deliver early) that would be much appreciated
[14:48]  * mvo nods
[14:48] <mvo> sure, I will do that
[14:49] <Keybuk> thanks
[14:49] <Keybuk> MacSlow: ?
[14:49]  * MacSlow thanks mvo too
[14:49] <MacSlow> * finish desktop-effect-profiles
[14:49] <MacSlow> * sparkle
[14:49] <MacSlow> * shine
[14:49] <MacSlow> * gdm-face-browser
[14:50] <Keybuk> so to expand on that for the others
[14:50] <Keybuk> Mark is very keen for us to demonstrate some of the 8.10 pieces early
[14:50] <MacSlow> (in between getting up to speed with Xorg/DRI, clutter and some newer OpenGL-stuff)
[14:50] <Keybuk> (ie. at UDS)
[14:50] <Keybuk> the chosen piece is face browser
[14:50] <Keybuk> so Mirco will be implementing that before UDS, so we can show it off there
[14:51] <Keybuk> and will therefore beat everyone at getting the first Implemented hardy+1 spec :-)
[14:51] <Keybuk> (those who've been at this company for a while will recognise that "very keen" is an understatement :p)
[14:53] <Keybuk> and last, but no means least
[14:53] <Keybuk> Loic and Seb
[14:53] <MacSlow> Keybuk, I guess it means it the highest prio it can ever have, right?! :)
[14:53] <seb128> GNOME updates and desktop bugs fixing
[14:54] <lool> For the desktop half of things:
[14:54] <lool> • Continue misc stuff; usually GNOME updates and bug chasing
[14:54] <lool> • If time permits, resume work on the "memory requirements" topic
[14:55] <Keybuk> ok
[14:55] <Keybuk> and pedro_ will be helping us with QA wherever it's needed
[14:55] <seb128> lot of testing, making sure all strings are translatable, etc too
[14:56] <Keybuk> except those "   " ones that preferences dialogs seem to like? :)
[14:56] <seb128> pedro_ rocks on desktop bug triage ;-)
[14:56] <pitti> has there been any outcome on login speed testing?
[14:56] <seb128> pitti: not really, we could win a bit without deskbar-applet
[14:56] <seb128> otherwise to obvious target
[14:56] <seb128> gconf and disk fragmentation don't help
[14:57] <seb128> there is some user comments about readahead on the launchpad bug saying that makes quite a difference but nobody really worked on a clean solution to do that yet
[14:57] <lool> If gconf's disk fragmentation is an issue, we could schedule a periodical check like fsck to rebuild the gconf tree on login
[14:57] <Keybuk> ok, I've got to run to the team leads meeting now, so I'll have to adjourn the meeting :)
[14:57] <Keybuk> we've hit an hour anyway
[14:58] <Keybuk> if there are other agenda items, please carry on and discuss, and I'll keep an eye on the log
[14:58] <pitti> thanks everyone
[14:58] <mvo> I would like to ask about the feeling of samba-share vs. shares-admin (from gnome-system-tools)
[14:59] <MacSlow> ok... I'll get back to my packaing-battle... and come crying in #ubuntu-devel if I'm totally lost
[14:59] <mvo> IMHO the samba-shares has the nicer gui and seems to be generally easier now that we have the samba usershares enabled by default
[15:10] <MacSlow> Riddell, ehm... when is you talk at fosdem?
[15:10] <MacSlow> Riddell, I just skimmed the pages on the fosdem'08 site and did not find it
[15:11] <pitti> mvo: where does samba-share come from? not g-s-t apparently?
[15:13] <Riddell> MacSlow: http://www.fosdem.org/2008/schedule/devroom/crossdesktop
[15:13] <mvo> pitti: nautilus-share is a seperate package (sorry for the confusion with the packagename)
[15:13] <mvo> its in the archive already
[15:14] <mvo> not enough sleep :/
[15:14] <MacSlow> Riddell, ah thanks!
[16:37] <zul> @schedule montreal
[16:37] <ubotu> Schedule for America/Montreal: 14 Feb 23:00: MOTU | 19 Feb 20:00: TriLoCo-Midwest | 20 Feb 14:00: Platform Team | 20 Feb 15:00: Education Team | 20 Feb 16:00: Server Team | 21 Feb 09:00: Desktop Team
[21:42] <vince-rouge> bsoir
[21:44] <vince-rouge> heu hello