[00:04] <vrkhans> hi problem.
[00:05] <vrkhans> for some reason both my shelves, got hiden what should i do to bring them back
[00:05] <vrkhans> the one which has the clock
[00:05] <zoredache> have you tried logging out and in again?
[00:05] <vrkhans> does not appear
[00:05] <vrkhans> ya
[00:05] <vrkhans> it doesnt come back
[00:06] <zoredache> press alt-f2 and run the command -   xfce4-panel
[00:06] <vrkhans> is there any way to reset everything
[00:06] <vrkhans> ok let me try
[00:07] <atompowered> I have a weird issue.  I've run some updates and now I can't run "Add/Remove..." or other apps (Gnometris for example).  But things like Firefox and Pidgn work fine
[00:09] <zoredache> have you tried starting some of the broken applications by running them in a terminal?
[00:09] <zoredache> frequently you will get a verbose error message
[00:10] <atompowered> one moment; I'll try that
[00:11] <atompowered> (what's the terminal name for "Add/Remove..."?  Is it gnome-app-install?)
[00:12] <vrkhans> i tried xface4-panel noting happein
[00:13] <vrkhans> what should i do
[00:14] <zoredache> atompowered: gnome-app-install
[00:14] <atompowered> hurray, I figured something out on my own! :)
[00:14] <zoredache> vrkhans: I am not entirely sure...  One thing you could try is creating another user account
[00:14] <atompowered> I get a long string of error text
[00:15] <atompowered> ending with "RuntimeError: can't initialize module gst: Error re-scanning registry , child terminated by signal"
[00:15] <zoredache> well, usually once you get an error you try and put the significate chuncks into google
[00:16] <zoredache> atompowered: looks like someone else is having your problem... https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/24565
[00:16] <MatBoy> Does the Xubuntu CD not have a rescue mode ?
[00:17] <zoredache> MatBoy: the livecd, or alt?  The livecd arguablly is just a big rescue disk with a gui
[00:17] <zoredache> the alternate disk can be used for some limited rescue operations, but it doesn't have as many tools
[00:18] <atompowered> zoredache: lol, yup; that's me
[00:18] <MatBoy> zoredache, I have a LinuxEBDA is big issue and after I closed my PC and I also upgraded after that to a 64bits processor... so I'm figuring out what is wise
[00:19] <zoredache> atompowered: ah... there are several hits related to people compiling there on gstreamer...
[00:20] <zoredache> did you compile your own, or are you using something that didn't come from the official respositories?
[00:21] <MatBoy> zoredache, what would you do ? new install in that upgrading matter ?
[00:22] <atompowered> zoredache: I'll try reinstalling gstreamer
[00:22] <zoredache> MatBoy: sorry I don't understand your question.    What is a LinuxEBDA
[00:22] <MatBoy> zoredache, Lilo didn't update well
[00:23] <MatBoy> but I have a 32Bits installed system and I have a Q6600 now
[00:23] <MatBoy> so a 64 bits system
[00:24] <zoredache> and you are wanting to upgrade a existing system from 32bit -> 64?
[00:24] <The-Kernel> Not gonna work, I tried it
[00:24] <The-Kernel> Way better to completely reinstall
[00:25] <zoredache> atompowered: perhaps just try removing gstreamer and seeing if things work?
[00:25] <The-Kernel> This is why I always make my /home dir have its own drive/partition
[00:25] <atompowered> zoredache: worth a shot
[00:25] <The-Kernel> MatBoy upgrading a 32 bit to a 64 bit that is
[00:25] <MatBoy> The-Kernel, using the cd or on the live syste, ?
[00:26] <zoredache> The-Kernel: I don't keep /home as a seperate paritition... I think it is more important to setup a good-automated-backup system
[00:26] <MatBoy> The-Kernel, there are many ways to upgrade :)
[00:27] <The-Kernel> MatBoy I'd suggest completely removing it, then installing it from a 64 bit version for a CD, however any other way is fine if you completely remove the old.
[00:28] <MatBoy> The-Kernel, ok, but I was thinking... why not override it ?
[00:28] <MatBoy> that can be done... don't know if it works...
[00:28] <The-Kernel> zoredache I agree with you entirely, but I just like a separate partition anyways.
[00:29] <The-Kernel> MatBoy it can be done, however it never worked the way I wanted it to when I did it
[00:29] <The-Kernel> kernel panics and the likes
[00:29] <The-Kernel> to much of the old to remove, to many conflicts
[00:29] <MatBoy> ok, will do a new install :)
[00:29] <MatBoy> I have my stuff in /home on a seperare partition... so that is no problem..
[00:30] <The-Kernel> Heh, my point proven.
[00:32] <MatBoy> The-Kernel, your point ?
[00:32] <MatBoy> an in raid too :D
[00:32] <The-Kernel> Oh, I forgot to state my point :P
[00:32] <The-Kernel> oh well
[00:33] <MatBoy> haha
[00:34] <The-Kernel> MatBoy just to let you know, this isn't a Windows type fix(to reformat and reinstall), its just that the crossover from 32bit to 64 bit is pretty big and if you want your system to perform at what it should, then this is the best option.
[00:36] <MatBoy> The-Kernel, yes I knew... but better know 200%for sure :)
[00:38] <atompowered> zoredache: It worked!  Thanks!
[00:39] <MatBoy> The-Kernel, here I go :)
[00:50] <MatBoy> weird, black screen acter booting linux
[00:51] <The-Kernel> what?
[00:51] <The-Kernel> after?
[00:51] <MatBoy> when I want to boot Xubuntu for installing
[00:51] <The-Kernel> huh, hit Ctrl+Alt+F1
[00:51] <MatBoy> I get a Mapping message
[00:51] <MatBoy> and than.. monitor goes of
[00:52] <The-Kernel> or F4 for that matter
[00:52] <MatBoy> I will get another mobo tomorrow
[00:52] <MatBoy> this one sucs
[00:53] <MatBoy> sucks
[01:07] <MatBoy> The-Kernel, man, what did you do... you have frightned us all !
[01:08] <The-Kernel> lol
[01:08] <The-Kernel> My conenction dropped
[01:08] <MatBoy> The-Kernel, yeah yeah... you just compiled a wrong kernel and thought you were the master :P
[01:09] <The-Kernel> Right...
[01:09] <MatBoy> WOEI !
[01:09] <MatBoy> I see someting on my screen... I just need to wait :D
[01:10] <MatBoy> ah kewl, new way of installing :)
[01:27] <MatBoy> mhh, since when can't we setup softraid in that fancy installer ?
[01:56] <Devo> hi all
[01:58] <Devo> I seem to have a problem. My boot screen and login screen have a different monitor resolution than my desktop manager. I already configured xorg to the same settings as the desktop manager resolution, but it didn't help.