| lns | If any of you are interested I'm tracking my issue here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-amd/+bug/180742 | 00:23 |
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| ubotu | Launchpad bug 180742 in xorg-server "xf86-video-amd: switching to a vcons fails" [Unknown,Confirmed] | 00:23 |
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| johnny | ogra, so how does gvfs affect what you're doing with ltsp? anything? | 14:09 |
| johnny | any problems caused? | 14:09 |
| ogra | i didnt test the new ltspfs yet | 14:10 |
| ogra | (since i do my tests in the free version of virtualbox i dont have USB support) | 14:10 |
| ogra | but i actually dont expect any problems | 14:11 |
| johnny | well, what you need to test .. is to make sure that logout actually closes down the mounts | 14:11 |
| johnny | which i seem to be having on and off troubles with | 14:11 |
| johnny | it seems that gvfs hasn't gotten the love it deserves | 14:14 |
| johnny | imo | 14:14 |
| johnny | ogra, have you gotten vbox additions to work in hardy vbox? | 14:25 |
| ogra | yes | 14:27 |
| ogra | with a patch i dug up upstream for the older kernels, but recently tehre was an update of the modules, the current hardy package should worjk with the current hady kernel | 14:28 |
| johnny | uggh | 14:32 |
| johnny | didn't work so far | 14:33 |
| johnny | altho i do have vboxvfs showing up in lsmod | 14:33 |
| johnny | ogra, do you know anything about this? http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=432947 | 14:35 |
| ubotu | Gnome bug 432947 in general "Mouse pointer keeps busy while Sabayon is ready to work" [Minor,Unconfirmed] | 14:35 |
| johnny | as i see hardy still uses gksu for some apps (atm at least) | 14:35 |
| johnny | i've replicated that in ubuntu | 14:36 |
| johnny | either way.. it's definitely a distro bug,as sabayon uses gnomesu by default in any case | 14:39 |
| laga_ | ogra: did you ever add support for alternate dhcp ports? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-users/2006-August/000172.html | 14:39 |
| ogra | laga_, i think dhclient prevents that deliberately so your second dhcp request will fail | 14:40 |
| ogra | at leat in recnet versions | 14:40 |
| laga_ | ogra: the second dhcp request happens in the initramfs, doesn't it? | 14:41 |
| ogra | nope | 14:42 |
| ogra | in the running system | 14:42 |
| ogra | err, nonsense | 14:42 |
| ogra | the first one happens from the bootloader ... the second one from initramfs | 14:43 |
| ogra | and s/dhclient/ipconfig/ | 14:43 |
| laga_ | and the third one (being dhclient) will fail? | 14:43 |
| ogra | the second one will already fail | 14:44 |
| laga_ | ogra: did you actually check that URL? you can just add -q <port> to the ipconfig call it seems | 14:45 |
| ogra | as i said above, that was deliberately dropped i think | 14:48 |
| laga_ | ogra: ah, i misunderstood you then. sorry about that :) | 14:48 |
| laga_ | ogra: the code seems to be there in gutsy's klibc-utils | 14:51 |
| laga_ | ogra: just checked for hardy. it's still in the README and in usr/kinit/ipconfig/main.c so i guess it wasn't removed | 14:54 |
| ogra | hmm, i read it was ... | 14:57 |
| laga_ | ogra: i can make a patch if you want (next week, no time right now) | 15:02 |
| ogra | if ysou can prove that it works :) | 15:03 |
| ogra | i know it doesnt if you forcefully set the port in the ltsp_nbd script | 15:03 |
| laga_ | ogra: sure. | 15:03 |
| laga_ | ogra: you mean if you use -p <port>? | 15:03 |
| ogra | yes | 15:03 |
| laga_ | hum. | 15:04 |
| laga_ | i'll just try it w/ my other changes | 15:04 |
| ogra | there is a guy on the edubuntu ML who is playing with non standard prots since a while | 15:04 |
| ogra | *ports | 15:05 |
| laga_ | IP-Config: binding source port to 1337, dest to 1336 | 15:06 |
| laga_ | seems like it works. maybe there was another problem at your end. i'll just test it and let you know. | 15:07 |
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| _mAyDaY_ | hello everyone :) , could someone please take a look at this -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=695775 | 22:35 |
| _mAyDaY_ | and comment? :) | 22:35 |
| johnny | ldap . | 22:36 |
| johnny | and the pam thing | 22:36 |
| _mAyDaY_ | isn't the pam thing only local ? | 22:37 |
| _mAyDaY_ | ie. will it record remaining time in someway in ldap? | 22:38 |
| johnny | chill with the nick tho | 22:38 |
| johnny | no need for the upper and lower case | 22:38 |
| _mAyDaY_ | it's an old habbit :o) | 22:39 |
| johnny | i'm sure there's a way to store it in ldap somehow | 22:40 |
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| _lowercase_ | k | 22:40 |
| _lowercase_ | is that the only way you see it? | 22:40 |
| johnny | well you'll be doing some script on the user side for sure | 22:41 |
| johnny | i'm sure there are other ways | 22:42 |
| johnny | maybe if i get some time i can look it up | 22:42 |
| _lowercase_ | i wonder why the edubuntu team hasn't done any work in that direction | 22:44 |
| _lowercase_ | since it's pretty useful for schools or such | 22:44 |
| johnny | they have enough to do already | 22:44 |
| johnny | i'm sure stuff like that is on the radar | 22:44 |
| johnny | this is what they are working on integrating now | 22:45 |
| johnny | http://italc.sourceforge.net/ | 22:45 |
| _lowercase_ | very nice | 22:46 |
| johnny | somebody else might have some advice for you too | 22:47 |
| _lowercase_ | *hats off* | 22:47 |
| johnny | if you stick around for a bit | 22:47 |
| _lowercase_ | sure | 22:48 |
| _lowercase_ | i'll come by often | 22:48 |
| new710 | Hello... | 22:48 |
| johnny | i'd suggest idling | 22:48 |
| johnny | for awhile | 22:48 |
| new710 | I have a question about deploying edubuntu in a school for about 25 computers. | 22:49 |
| _lowercase_ | due to technical issues, i can't idle (as in, leave the box running infinitly:) | 22:49 |
| new710 | How should I go about doing that? | 22:50 |
| johnny | uhmm? | 22:50 |
| johnny | that's too broad | 22:50 |
| johnny | did you read the edubuntu handbook? | 22:50 |
| johnny | that's a good start | 22:51 |
| new710 | Is there a way to install it to a server and deploy automatically? | 22:51 |
| new710 | Not thin clients, though..... | 22:51 |
| johnny | most people do thin clients | 22:51 |
| johnny | evne with real pcs | 22:51 |
| new710 | My server is not that powerful, will that many users, 25, impact performance? | 22:51 |
| LaserJock | what are the specs? | 22:52 |
| new710 | Server is a P4, hyperthreading (don't recall the clock speed, but it is ubder 3GHz), 2 GB RAM. | 22:53 |
| new710 | ^under... | 22:53 |
| LaserJock | I would think the RAM would be the limiter | 22:54 |
| new710 | Yeah.... I guess most of the processing will be handled by the clients. | 22:57 |
| new710 | Do you know how much RAM each thin client requires (default)? | 22:57 |
| LaserJock | the handbook says the server needs: 256 + (128 * users) MB | 22:59 |
| LaserJock | so you need about 3.5GB RAM | 22:59 |
| LaserJock | new710: check out http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edubuntu/handbook/C/server-hw.html | 23:00 |
| new710 | Ok, thank you very much for your help. I know I should read the handbook!!! | 23:01 |
| new710 | Just that this school wants to upgrade to 2003 server and I mentioned this as a possible alternative. | 23:02 |
| new710 | Also comes with the usual Linux benefits, etc. | 23:02 |
| _lowercase_ | btw. can someone plz in few sentences explain (i didn't read the documentation:o) what is the role of the edubuntu server? | 23:05 |
| gyaresu | Hey. Is edubuntu still a supported project? | 23:05 |
| laga_ | read the documentation? :) | 23:05 |
| gyaresu | http://www.edubuntu.org/ThinClientConfig | 23:05 |
| gyaresu | that's my point. | 23:05 |
| laga_ | gyaresu: was talking to _lowercase_ | 23:05 |
| gyaresu | link to "Edubuntu Handbook" not there... http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/handbook/C/ | 23:05 |
| gyaresu | laga_: Ah. Sorry. | 23:05 |
| _lowercase_ | laga_: just in few words :) , not in detail | 23:06 |
| laga_ | gyaresu: google "edubuntu handbook" and it comes up http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edubuntu/handbook/C/ | 23:06 |
| laga_ | gyaresu: looks like the URL is wrong | 23:06 |
| LaserJock | _lowercase_: the server "serves" everything over the network to the thin client | 23:06 |
| new710 | The server acts as a controller for all of the thin clients connected to it. | 23:07 |
| laga_ | copyright 2004, 2005, 2006. hum. | 23:07 |
| LaserJock | _lowercase_: have you ever done X forwarding? where you ssh into another machine and start up an X app? | 23:07 |
| _lowercase_ | LaserJock: yup | 23:07 |
| LaserJock | _lowercase_: this is basically like that, but way cooler | 23:07 |
| _lowercase_ | that pretty much answers my question :) | 23:07 |
| new710 | Every thin client logs in to the server as their own user. | 23:08 |
| LaserJock | the thin client just has a kernel,ssh, and X | 23:08 |
| LaserJock | everything else is run on the server and is "forwarded" to the thin client | 23:08 |
| _lowercase_ | i get it, thnx :) | 23:08 |
| LaserJock | that's why the thin client doesn't need a hard drive | 23:08 |
| LaserJock | gyaresu: Edubuntu is very much a supported project | 23:08 |
| _lowercase_ | LaserJock: do you maybe have an idea for my inital question? | 23:09 |
| new710 | I was wondering, can the thin client do some processing in processor-intensive applications? | 23:10 |
| johnny | that's something that is in the pipeline | 23:10 |
| LaserJock | new710: well, there is work going on for that kind of thing | 23:10 |
| LaserJock | new710: called local apps. where we actually run some stuff on the thin client | 23:11 |
| LaserJock | like openGL apps | 23:11 |
| new710 | Yes, sounds good. | 23:11 |
| LaserJock | _lowercase_: well, my guess would be ldap. time usage is something we'd like to do better with but just haven't seen good software for that | 23:11 |
| gyaresu | I'm going to put a server into a cafe to run thin clients and manage wireless connections. Is edubuntu already setup to do proxy & shaping? | 23:11 |
| LaserJock | but I actually don't run LTSP so I'm probably not the best to ask | 23:12 |
| johnny | gyaresu, i useopenwrt | 23:12 |
| _lowercase_ | k | 23:12 |
| johnny | err i use openwrt for that wireless part | 23:12 |
| new710 | Laserjock: Thanks for your help! | 23:12 |
| gyaresu | johnny: I use Tomato. Not really gonna help with shaping though eh? | 23:12 |
| gyaresu | johnny: I want a proxy so that it's a captive portal and does caching. | 23:13 |
| johnny | yes.. captive portal | 23:13 |
| johnny | i use coova atm | 23:13 |
| gyaresu | johnny: Maybe even radius server. | 23:13 |
| gyaresu | ah. not heard of it. | 23:13 |
| johnny | i didn't need a radius server | 23:13 |
| * gyaresu is googling coova | 23:13 | |
| johnny | but it does have that option | 23:13 |
| gyaresu | How's it working out for you? | 23:13 |
| johnny | mostly well | 23:14 |
| johnny | i just used the TOS acceptance thing | 23:14 |
| gyaresu | johnny: So some things not working? | 23:15 |
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