[00:23] If any of you are interested I'm tracking my issue here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-amd/+bug/180742 [00:23] Launchpad bug 180742 in xorg-server "xf86-video-amd: switching to a vcons fails" [Unknown,Confirmed] === greeneggsnospam is now known as jsgotangco === greeneggsnospam is now known as jsgotangco === jsg123 is now known as jsgotangco === nixternal_ is now known as nixternal === RichEd-1 is now known as RichEd [14:09] ogra, so how does gvfs affect what you're doing with ltsp? anything? [14:09] any problems caused? [14:10] i didnt test the new ltspfs yet [14:10] (since i do my tests in the free version of virtualbox i dont have USB support) [14:11] but i actually dont expect any problems [14:11] well, what you need to test .. is to make sure that logout actually closes down the mounts [14:11] which i seem to be having on and off troubles with [14:14] it seems that gvfs hasn't gotten the love it deserves [14:14] imo [14:25] ogra, have you gotten vbox additions to work in hardy vbox? [14:27] yes [14:28] with a patch i dug up upstream for the older kernels, but recently tehre was an update of the modules, the current hardy package should worjk with the current hady kernel [14:32] uggh [14:33] didn't work so far [14:33] altho i do have vboxvfs showing up in lsmod [14:35] ogra, do you know anything about this? http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=432947 [14:35] Gnome bug 432947 in general "Mouse pointer keeps busy while Sabayon is ready to work" [Minor,Unconfirmed] [14:35] as i see hardy still uses gksu for some apps (atm at least) [14:36] i've replicated that in ubuntu [14:39] either way.. it's definitely a distro bug,as sabayon uses gnomesu by default in any case [14:39] ogra: did you ever add support for alternate dhcp ports? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-users/2006-August/000172.html [14:40] laga_, i think dhclient prevents that deliberately so your second dhcp request will fail [14:40] at leat in recnet versions [14:41] ogra: the second dhcp request happens in the initramfs, doesn't it? [14:42] nope [14:42] in the running system [14:42] err, nonsense [14:43] the first one happens from the bootloader ... the second one from initramfs [14:43] and s/dhclient/ipconfig/ [14:43] and the third one (being dhclient) will fail? [14:44] the second one will already fail [14:45] ogra: did you actually check that URL? you can just add -q to the ipconfig call it seems [14:48] as i said above, that was deliberately dropped i think [14:48] ogra: ah, i misunderstood you then. sorry about that :) [14:51] ogra: the code seems to be there in gutsy's klibc-utils [14:54] ogra: just checked for hardy. it's still in the README and in usr/kinit/ipconfig/main.c so i guess it wasn't removed [14:57] hmm, i read it was ... [15:02] ogra: i can make a patch if you want (next week, no time right now) [15:03] if ysou can prove that it works :) [15:03] i know it doesnt if you forcefully set the port in the ltsp_nbd script [15:03] ogra: sure. [15:03] ogra: you mean if you use -p ? [15:03] yes [15:04] hum. [15:04] i'll just try it w/ my other changes [15:04] there is a guy on the edubuntu ML who is playing with non standard prots since a while [15:05] *ports [15:06] IP-Config: binding source port to 1337, dest to 1336 [15:07] seems like it works. maybe there was another problem at your end. i'll just test it and let you know. === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth [22:35] <_mAyDaY_> hello everyone :) , could someone please take a look at this -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=695775 [22:35] <_mAyDaY_> and comment? :) [22:36] ldap . [22:36] and the pam thing [22:37] <_mAyDaY_> isn't the pam thing only local ? [22:38] <_mAyDaY_> ie. will it record remaining time in someway in ldap? [22:38] chill with the nick tho [22:38] no need for the upper and lower case [22:39] <_mAyDaY_> it's an old habbit :o) [22:40] i'm sure there's a way to store it in ldap somehow === _mAyDaY_ is now known as lowercase === lowercase is now known as _lowercase_ [22:40] <_lowercase_> k [22:40] <_lowercase_> is that the only way you see it? [22:41] well you'll be doing some script on the user side for sure [22:42] i'm sure there are other ways [22:42] maybe if i get some time i can look it up [22:44] <_lowercase_> i wonder why the edubuntu team hasn't done any work in that direction [22:44] <_lowercase_> since it's pretty useful for schools or such [22:44] they have enough to do already [22:44] i'm sure stuff like that is on the radar [22:45] this is what they are working on integrating now [22:45] http://italc.sourceforge.net/ [22:46] <_lowercase_> very nice [22:47] somebody else might have some advice for you too [22:47] <_lowercase_> *hats off* [22:47] if you stick around for a bit [22:48] <_lowercase_> sure [22:48] <_lowercase_> i'll come by often [22:48] Hello... [22:48] i'd suggest idling [22:48] for awhile [22:49] I have a question about deploying edubuntu in a school for about 25 computers. [22:49] <_lowercase_> due to technical issues, i can't idle (as in, leave the box running infinitly:) [22:50] How should I go about doing that? [22:50] uhmm? [22:50] that's too broad [22:50] did you read the edubuntu handbook? [22:51] that's a good start [22:51] Is there a way to install it to a server and deploy automatically? [22:51] Not thin clients, though..... [22:51] most people do thin clients [22:51] evne with real pcs [22:51] My server is not that powerful, will that many users, 25, impact performance? [22:52] what are the specs? [22:53] Server is a P4, hyperthreading (don't recall the clock speed, but it is ubder 3GHz), 2 GB RAM. [22:53] ^under... [22:54] I would think the RAM would be the limiter [22:57] Yeah.... I guess most of the processing will be handled by the clients. [22:57] Do you know how much RAM each thin client requires (default)? [22:59] the handbook says the server needs: 256 + (128 * users) MB [22:59] so you need about 3.5GB RAM [23:00] new710: check out http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edubuntu/handbook/C/server-hw.html [23:01] Ok, thank you very much for your help. I know I should read the handbook!!! [23:02] Just that this school wants to upgrade to 2003 server and I mentioned this as a possible alternative. [23:02] Also comes with the usual Linux benefits, etc. [23:05] <_lowercase_> btw. can someone plz in few sentences explain (i didn't read the documentation:o) what is the role of the edubuntu server? [23:05] Hey. Is edubuntu still a supported project? [23:05] read the documentation? :) [23:05] http://www.edubuntu.org/ThinClientConfig [23:05] that's my point. [23:05] gyaresu: was talking to _lowercase_ [23:05] link to "Edubuntu Handbook" not there... http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/handbook/C/ [23:05] laga_: Ah. Sorry. [23:06] <_lowercase_> laga_: just in few words :) , not in detail [23:06] gyaresu: google "edubuntu handbook" and it comes up http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edubuntu/handbook/C/ [23:06] gyaresu: looks like the URL is wrong [23:06] _lowercase_: the server "serves" everything over the network to the thin client [23:07] The server acts as a controller for all of the thin clients connected to it. [23:07] copyright 2004, 2005, 2006. hum. [23:07] _lowercase_: have you ever done X forwarding? where you ssh into another machine and start up an X app? [23:07] <_lowercase_> LaserJock: yup [23:07] _lowercase_: this is basically like that, but way cooler [23:07] <_lowercase_> that pretty much answers my question :) [23:08] Every thin client logs in to the server as their own user. [23:08] the thin client just has a kernel,ssh, and X [23:08] everything else is run on the server and is "forwarded" to the thin client [23:08] <_lowercase_> i get it, thnx :) [23:08] that's why the thin client doesn't need a hard drive [23:08] gyaresu: Edubuntu is very much a supported project [23:09] <_lowercase_> LaserJock: do you maybe have an idea for my inital question? [23:10] I was wondering, can the thin client do some processing in processor-intensive applications? [23:10] that's something that is in the pipeline [23:10] new710: well, there is work going on for that kind of thing [23:11] new710: called local apps. where we actually run some stuff on the thin client [23:11] like openGL apps [23:11] Yes, sounds good. [23:11] _lowercase_: well, my guess would be ldap. time usage is something we'd like to do better with but just haven't seen good software for that [23:11] I'm going to put a server into a cafe to run thin clients and manage wireless connections. Is edubuntu already setup to do proxy & shaping? [23:12] but I actually don't run LTSP so I'm probably not the best to ask [23:12] gyaresu, i useopenwrt [23:12] <_lowercase_> k [23:12] err i use openwrt for that wireless part [23:12] Laserjock: Thanks for your help! [23:12] johnny: I use Tomato. Not really gonna help with shaping though eh? [23:13] johnny: I want a proxy so that it's a captive portal and does caching. [23:13] yes.. captive portal [23:13] i use coova atm [23:13] johnny: Maybe even radius server. [23:13] ah. not heard of it. [23:13] i didn't need a radius server [23:13] * gyaresu is googling coova [23:13] but it does have that option [23:13] How's it working out for you? [23:14] mostly well [23:14] i just used the TOS acceptance thing [23:15] johnny: So some things not working?