[17:43] <toma> Tonio_: pinh
[17:49]  * jpatrick gives toma an g
[17:49] <toma> jpatrick: pinhg does not make sense to me, but thanks ;-)
[17:51]  * mhb gives toma an s/h/g/
[17:51] <toma> o, i can choose between them ? ;-)
[17:58] <Tonio_> toma: pong ?
[18:05] <mhb> Riddell: how's the KDE4 CD, by the way?
[18:05] <mhb> Riddell: are the seeds unstuck now?
[18:05] <mhb> sorry for the polling
[18:06] <mhb> I guess this approach is not really polite, some "bus mastering" would be a much better way
[18:08] <Riddell> well, as it happens...
[18:08] <Riddell> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-kde4/daily/20080215/
[18:08] <Riddell> now I should say that those were only created a minute ago and I have zero idea of if they'll actually work
[18:09] <Riddell> I expect the package choice will have gaps in it
[18:09] <Riddell> I wonder if live CDs will work
[18:09] <smarter> Riddell: the files in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-kde4/daily/20080215/source/ are empty
[18:10] <Riddell> please don't sue me!
[18:10] <smarter> just letting you know ;)
[18:11] <jpatrick> smarter: not here
[18:11] <jpatrick> oh wait..
 what, we have to provide sources?</mepis>
[18:11] <smarter> ;)
[18:14] <mhb> awesome work, hooray for Riddell
[18:26] <Riddell> so, anyone want to try it and see what happens?
[18:28] <toma> Tonio_: hi
[18:28] <smarter> I will if there was a live version
[18:29] <Riddell> there isn't
[18:30] <toma> Tonio_: if you have hacking questions, please mail me or find me, I'll can help you, but I might be less available on this channel next weeks.
[18:36] <txwikinger> xorg leaked 2G of memory in less than 24 days :(
[19:05] <jouellette> Hi, Can anyone help me create a .deb package? It uses cmake and I"m having issues building the package correctly
[19:06] <jouellette> I've read the tutorial on creating .debs but I can't figure out how to config the rules file to work with cmake
[19:06] <jpatrick> jouellette: you've come to the right place
[19:06] <jouellette> Woot!
[19:07] <jouellette> I'm trying to package a Plasmoid I wrote..
[19:07] <jpatrick> ok
[19:08] <jouellette> but I can't seem to be able to get dh_make to create a rules file that works...
[19:11] <jpatrick> jouellette: I'm not sure what the current last one looks like, but look into the yakuake-kde4 package for an example
[19:12] <jouellette> jpatrick: how can I look into a .deb without installing it?
[19:12] <jouellette> I think I just built the .deb....
[19:12] <jpatrick> jouellette: make sure you have hardy deb-src's in your /etc/apt/sources.list, apt-get update and apt-get source yakuake-kde4
[19:13] <ScottK2> jouellette: ark filename.deb will do it.
[19:13] <jpatrick> jouellette: dpkg -c filename.deb - will print it's contents
[19:14] <ScottK2> jouellette: or debc binarychangesfile.changes will do it too
[19:15] <jouellette> Thanks for the help, I looked into that .deb and all the files are there... I just need to mod the control and such files and it'll be done...
[19:15] <jouellette> Thanks again for the help, it's very appreciated
[19:15] <jpatrick> It's our speciality
[19:16] <jouellette> I can't wait for 4.1, I'm fine with 4.0.1 but there's a few things that are bugging me.. :)
[19:18] <smarter> jouellette: if you want to see what a packaged plasmoid looks like: apt-get source kepas
[19:18] <jpatrick> smarter: did that get though NEW?
[19:19] <smarter> jpatrick: yes ;)
[19:19] <jpatrick> smarter: gentil
[19:19] <smarter> jpatrick: that's not the right word :}
[19:19] <Riddell> jouellette: which tutorial did you read?
[19:20] <ScottK2> smarter: I reuploaded qdevelop yesterday before the freeze.  Next time when we're close to a freeze, please don't ask to have the package rejected.  Just bug fix it after it's out of New.
[19:20] <jpatrick> smarter: damn
[19:20] <smarter> bbl
[19:20] <smarter> jpatrick: we use "cool" in french too
[19:20] <jpatrick> smarter: lame
[19:21] <jouellette> Riddell: the Package building tut.
[19:21] <jpatrick> Riddell: probably mine
[19:22] <jpatrick> don't sue me!
[19:22] <Riddell> jouellette: which one, there's lots :)
[19:22] <Riddell> ?
[19:22] <jouellette> Riddell: they are all the same... :) just copy and pasted.. :)
[19:22] <jouellette> let me get a list of links.. :)
[19:22] <jpatrick> jouellette: does it have: "Kubuntu Tutorials Day - Packaging 101" on the front page?
[19:23] <jouellette> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/337 | https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/basic-chap.html
[19:23] <jouellette> jpatrick: I did see that one.. but that looked just like the ubuntu one.. just blue.. :)
[19:23] <jpatrick> ah right
[19:24] <jouellette> I hadn't seen the IRC chat transcript though...
[19:25] <jpatrick> jouellette: you don't want to, that's why I made the PDF :)
[19:32] <smarter> ScottK2: sorry for that, someone advised me to do that, he uploaded my package too
[19:33] <jpatrick> aplg
[19:37] <ScottK2> smarter: Who do you think uploaded your package?
[19:38] <ScottK2> smarter: I uploaded it both times, so something is a bit confused.
[19:40] <smarter> ScottK2: gpocentek uploaded it and at some point there was two qdevelop packages in NEW
[19:41] <smarter> he forgot to remove the package from revu I think
[19:43] <ScottK2> smarter: That's odd because normally one will get rejected.  Then I'm additionally grumpy because I wasted time yesterday re-reviewing and uploading the package.
[19:44] <ScottK2> Please let people who are involved with a package know what's going on.
[19:47] <smarter> ScottK2: I didn't know that the package was still on revu, but sorry again ;)
[19:49]  * ScottK2 mumbles something about checking and moves on.
[20:46] <ryanakca> kwwii: good, we've settled on the last mockup on the wiki page
[20:46]  * ryanakca grumbles at all the Kubuntu meetings being on Wednesdays...
[20:47] <jpatrick> ryanakca: they're on Saturdays too
[20:48] <mhb> ryanakca: like the last one which was on Saturday
[20:48] <ryanakca> jpatrick: heh, nevermind then :)
[20:48] <ryanakca> doesn't really matter if I make them or no... I'm not exactly what you could call "essential" or even "important" to the project :)
[20:49] <jpatrick> ryanakca: we all are
[20:50] <ryanakca> jpatrick: lol, I don't think I've been to a meeting in the past 3 months... ok. "essential" or "important" to the meeting then.
[20:50] <nixternal> ryanakca: aren't you managing the website transition? that is pretty important right there. Plus you have done a bunch previously fulfilling school requirements as well
[20:50] <ryanakca> nixternal: lol, yep :)
[20:51] <ryanakca> school requirements? aka Classroom or volunteer hours for school?
[20:51] <nixternal> everyone is important, except for maybe crimsun_....all he does is spit out his vista knowledge :p
[20:51] <nixternal> ryanakca: ya, that's them...I remember JR having to sign stuff for you ya
[20:52] <nixternal> you ya, hrmm, that is a new one
[20:55] <jpatrick> ryanakca: how's alpine?
[20:57] <ryanakca> jpatrick: icky... I ditched it for mutt :P
[20:57] <nixternal> really?
[20:58] <nixternal> Pine was awesome back in the 90s....Mutt was great, but Pine was just awesome
[20:58] <nixternal> I have been thinking about reverting back from KMail, but I have just gotten to used to it
[20:59] <ryanakca> yeah... I already had a .muttrc set up from a few years back, and it "just worked"... and I didn't feel like having to go through patching and rebuilding or something of the sort to get GPG support
[21:00] <ryanakca> nixternal: KMail (KDE3) doesn't like KDE4 here... which is why I use mutt...
[21:01] <nixternal> really? it works pretty good for me thus far
[21:01] <ScottK> ryanakca: That's why I use KDE3.
[21:01] <ryanakca> nixternal: I don't feel like having a seperate X session just to run a few KDE3 apps... and with mutt I can access my email from school too when I ssh in to do my C++ stuff :)
[21:01] <nixternal> seeing as KMail for KDE 4 is starting to mature a bit, I have been thinking of building a kdepim-kde4 package to give it a try
[21:01]  * jpatrick wonders what happened here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56129/
[21:02] <nixternal> jpatrick: that is an easy one to fix...just read the error message it gave ya :p
[21:02] <jpatrick> dpkg-buildpackage: host architecture i386 -> Aborting with an error
[21:03]  * ryanakca goes to finish his kalzium patch
[21:04] <ryanakca> ... except I have no clue how to convert the atomic weight into g/cm^3 :)
[21:05] <nixternal> jpatrick: hahaha, I was being a wise ass with that one...because, there simply isn't a reason/error stated with the abort
[21:07] <ScottK> nixternal: If there was a kdepim-kde4 package, I would sign up for testing it in Hardy.
[21:08] <nixternal> maybe I will do that then...just do an svn export and put it in my ppa
[21:08] <ryanakca> nixternal: so would I :)
[21:08] <ScottK> nixternal: Why PPA?  Why not in Hardy?  I think KDE4 is a good candidate for a blanket feature freeze waiver.
[21:09] <nixternal> well, maybe they will release a beta for 4.0.2 or soon
[21:09] <nixternal> I will ask winterz if they are planning on it, or toma if he knows anything?
[21:10] <toma> nixternal: ?
[21:11] <nixternal> do you know if there will be a kdepim release, like a beta release, anytime soon?
[21:12] <toma> nixternal: no, not really, we are planning for 4.1.0, so there will be beta releases
[21:12] <nixternal> roger that
[21:12] <toma> nixternal: but that's in a couple of monthes
[21:12] <toma> -e
[21:12] <nixternal> how is akonadi thus far? is it complete yet?
[21:13] <yuriy> really too bad it won't be used by kdepim in 4.1
[21:13] <toma> nixternal: it's getting there rapidly
[21:13] <nixternal> groovy
[21:13] <toma> yuriy: it's unrealistic to do that
[21:14] <yuriy> i understand
[21:14] <toma> yuriy: we just want the kdepim apps to be stable for 4.1.0
[21:14] <toma> then we have 6 months to 4.2.0 to port to akonadi
[21:14] <toma> in the meanwhile Mailody is porting to akonadi to find the most crucial bugs
[21:15] <toma> yuriy: we don't want to mix porting to kde4 with porting to a new framework
[21:16] <toma> yuriy: both are very sensitive to introducing bugs
[21:17] <toma> and we are playing with user data, like addresses and mail. we don't want to mess it up. it's not KChess
[21:17] <nixternal> lol
[21:32] <tekteen> I am learning PyQt and am wondering if there is something easy I can make as practice. What did you guys do?
[22:16] <ryanakca> Riddell: did you get my /msg ?
[22:17] <Riddell> oh aye