[17:00] Hey all. Running gutsy and I can't log into my MSN account with Pidgin - I can login via a web messenger - my details are correct. [17:00] on system restart, one of 3 screenlets crashed and Evolution started with no prompt [17:01] !support [17:01] The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org [17:01] Latty: #ubuntu for Gutsy questions please. [17:03] sorry, I said Gutsy [17:03] otherwise nothing major. but unexpected wierd behaviour. firefox seems to be fine without the suggested update [17:03] I mean Hardy [17:03] unmarked [17:04] * Gnine do not use pidgin [17:06] matter-of-fact i dont use any messenger service other than irc or email [17:06] so i am no help [17:06] Gnine: Me too ;) [17:08] back [17:09] there appears to be umpteen sources.list's available - in any other language than english. [17:09] heret1c: are you running gnome? [17:10] pixi> kde, mainly. have gnome, too. [17:11] * heret1c suffers the curses of both worlds 8-) [17:11] heret1c: In adept, go to Manage Software Sources and make sure that the ones you want are checked. [17:12] second time this week i hear that [17:16] pici> yhanks. sometimes stepping over the brook to fetch water is dancing on your nose. 8) [17:19] only thing linux REALLY needs now, is some all singing, all dancing, more-bbells-and-whistles-than-you-can-shale-a-stick-at mobile phone connection software. [17:20] that's a major gap. [17:23] http://tinyurl.com/273fgw - force 5? [17:24] erk, duty calls. [17:27] the trash is giving me issues... it this related to the new vfs? [17:28] it persistently displays directories that were already deleted [17:29] sieve [17:30] mobile phone stuff yes [17:30] luckily there's a standard that works across all phones so it'll be easy to get broad support [17:44] check that your ~/.trash is empty [17:45] there is a known bug about it [17:46] just screamed at it 'permission denied' [17:46] ~/.Trash ;) [17:47] yah [17:47] you'll know when you see it.. but i just tried that and it is not longer working [17:47] new bug apparently [17:47] wastrel: For all features ? (the thing about the phones) [17:49] h3sp4wn: just joking, there's no universal standard [17:50] wastrel: ah - I thought bluetooth was pretty universal [17:52] ah you're talking about that. i was thinkg about data sync [17:52] yes bluetooth stuff i think is farily standardized [17:53] I can copy data etc from bluetooth but I have a common phone [17:54] I would be more interested in some way to flash semi recent nokia's (firmware change) [18:04] Hrm. Is anyone else having issues with no menus showing up in gnome-terminal? [18:04] I think it may be a translation issue. [18:04] I have that issue [18:04] using xfce4-terminal atm [18:05] I can click in the blank space, and have it come up... just wondering what bug/package this might be logged to. [18:07] dpkg -S `which gnome-terminal` | awk -F: '{print $1}' | xargs apt-cache madison [18:08] (useless in this case but that is the way to find out - gnome-terminal is the source package name [18:30] hiho nice folks... I got a little problem. Currently I'm testing Hardy Alpha 4 with KDE 3.5.8 and Firefox 3 Beta 3.... now I noticed that when I want to open news in the browser from Akkregator it raises Firefox to the foreground. That is rather annoying. How can I stop that? [18:31] set the focus stealing protection for firefox higher [18:32] Unksi: can you elaborate? [18:33] hyper_ch: right click the title bar, select advanced -> special application settings -> workarounds -> focus stealing prevention [18:33] Unksi: found it out ;) I didn't set any priority :) [18:33] Unksi: and so it failed to accomplish that workaround ;) [18:33] tick it on, put force and raise the level as long as it stops it [18:33] Unksi: thx [18:33] no problem :) [18:41] someone's having the same issue with konqueror but he can't seem to solve that [18:41] Is there any way to get firefox 2.0 back? [18:42] my online banking doesn't work with 3.0 :S [18:42] andre_pl: there is :) [18:42] thank god [18:42] is it a pain? [18:42] in aptitude (and also synaptic and adpet I think) you can set a specific version === coz_ is now known as DrDoof === DrDoof is now known as coz_ [18:44] hyper_ch: it says 3.0~b3 is the only available version [18:44] andre_pl: then you might need to add a gutsy repo and force version from there [18:44] hmm... ok [18:45] but I don't really know if that is a good idea [18:46] hmm. maybe I'll try opera or something. [18:47] andre_pl: how about opera for online banking? [18:48] andre_pl: maybe there's an ubuntu .deb on the ff homepage [18:48] andre_pl: or try to download the .deb from package.ubuntu.com [18:48] good options. [18:49] hey, here's a wierd bug, totally unrelated.. anyone else noticed this? sometimes my 'new terminal' shortcut gets changed to just 'n' so every time i type an 'n' it opens a new terminal... [18:49] haha. [18:49] just have to hit alt+f n and the shortcut changes. [18:50] you can change any shortcut just by pressing a key with a menu entry highlighted. [18:50] wow [18:50] nope [18:51] it doesn't do that for you? [18:51] in gnome-terminal? [18:51] what's a gnome-terminal? ^^ [18:51] lol [18:51] the terminal in gnome. ;) [18:53] what's that? ^^ [18:53] Sysinfo for 'xubi': Linux 2.6.24-7-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: AMDSempron2400+ at 1683 MHz (3371 bogomips), , RAM: 996/1010MB, 158 proc's, 12.34h up [18:54] :P [18:55] I used to love KDE, but it doesn't seem to work very well for tv-out/dual display stuff under ubuntu, and I do a lot of that... i still miss kde. [18:55] it's my first kde install in the last 3 releases [18:56] Error: uncaught exception: Permission denied to call method Location.toString [18:56] thats the JS error thats preventing me from banking. [18:56] :S [18:59] i forgot i have 2 other gutsy machines in the house :) [18:59] no clue about JS === coz_ is now known as SantaCoz [19:02] how do i enable the nvidia driver? === SantaCoz is now known as cozziemoto [19:03] arcticpenguin380: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new [19:03] arcticpenguin380: at least that's what I think [19:03] its installed [19:03] but not enabled [19:04] system --> nvidia xserver settings? [19:04] brb === cozziemoto is now known as coz_ [19:08] not yet enabled =( [19:09] then I have no clue [19:10] g2g [19:12] then is hardy heron CD with kde4 going to be released? how long do we hate to wait? [19:19] Has Hardy gotten to the point at which it is unlikely that your system will catch fire? [19:20] toresbe: runs fine for me [19:20] How many months is it from release? [19:21] hardy is 8.04 [19:21] toresbe, it should be release at the end o f April [19:21] oh, April. So it should be getting better by now. [19:22] Once they fix dpkg, I'll upgrade, and keep my cat in another room lest it catch fire. [19:22] Anyone use GNUstep? I need help opening Project Builder. I don't know where it's located. [19:22] No, nobody uses GNUstep. That's why it's broken all the time. :) [19:22] toresbe, yes it should and the version numbering is 8.04 which is 2008 4th month [19:22] april 20 - if I'm not mistaken [19:23] coz_: I know what the version numbers mean. Just didn't know the version number. :) [19:23] toresbe: the release number indicate the date.... 8.04 --> 2008 april (04) [19:23] I know. === macd_ is now known as macd [19:59] april [20:06] is it safe to remove the older kernels [20:10] is anyone else having issues installing from the live cd [20:10] i have them remove without any problems [20:10] when its loading the live cd it enters busybox [20:10] no matter what option i choose [20:11] I can use hardy when i do a dist updgrade but Id like to be running from a clean install [20:15] anyone? [20:27] I am running alpha 4 in a VMware virtual machine with the vmware toolbox installed. When I open the toolbox it runs fine for about 20 minutes, then the toolbox closes for no aparent reason. I can start the app back up again and it runs fine. I am not running it from a terminal, and I am not closing the app. Has anyone had this problem before [20:29] why isnt the firewall enabled by defualt? [20:39] The following packages have unmet dependencies: libselinux1-dev: Depends: libselinux1 (= 2.0.15-2ubuntu1) but 2.0.55-0ubuntu1 is installed [20:41] I'm trying to set up a dual-head configuration with xrandr [20:41] but I need to resize the xorg virtual desktop size [20:42] when I add a section to my xorg.conf file, xorg blows up in my face [20:42] is there any other way to do it? [20:44] E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libselinux1-dev_2.0.55-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man8/selinux.8.gz', which is also in package selinux-utils [20:48] anyone have any advice? === marko-_-_ is now known as marko-_- [20:51] picard: have you tried envy, it sets up the xorg.conf for you. It works for nvidea and ATI cards [20:52] I have intel [20:52] !envy [20:52] envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver » [20:53] that's why I'm using xrandr [20:53] picard_pwns_kirk: isnt there some randr tray thing in the repos? [20:53] I can add the monitor [20:53] I need to set the virtual display size [20:54] picard_pwns_kirk: what are you adding to the xorg? [20:54] SubSection "Display" [20:55] Virtual 3072 3072 [20:55] EndSubSection [20:55] picard_pwns_kirk: if you dont mind, could you pastebin your xorg? [20:55] (in section screen) [20:55] sure [20:55] it's not very descriptive [20:55] thats fine [20:55] http://pastebin.com/m64e858fc [20:56] I just ran "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" and restarted x [20:56] oh yeah, I have one like this also [20:56] 1 moment [20:57] k [20:57] ok, IIRC, you need to have it like this: [20:58] SubSection "Display" [20:58] k [20:58] Virtual "3072x3072" [20:58] in which section? [20:58] EndSubSection [20:58] under screen? [20:58] 1 sec [20:59] yeah, under screen [20:59] I think it was that you forgot the quotes and x [21:00] mmkay, gonna restart x [21:04] join #mesa [21:04] err [21:04] whoa just did updates and firefox is way over size text and icons [21:05] here's a screenshot http://www.speedyshare.com/388127500.html [21:06] nope [21:06] Anyone else have problems with OpenGL apps on Intel? Particularly i965 [21:07] but now, it doesn't display test [21:07] s/test/text [21:07] coz_: you somehow managed to zoom the whole UI [21:07] Amaranth, no just did updates and opened firefox :) [21:08] coz_: do you use a custom font setup? [21:08] Amaranth, no [21:08] curious [21:08] Amaranth, all default clean install of hardy [21:08] *shrug* [21:08] even theicons are larger [21:08] would reboting help? [21:08] rebooting*** [21:09] picard_pwns_kirk: no [21:09] coz_: try changing the dpi in firefox [21:09] Matir, which apps are you talking about? [21:09] about:config, layout.css.dpi [21:09] try 75 [21:09] Amaranth, ok trying now [21:09] Amaranth: what do you recommend? [21:10] Amaranth, interesting it is set at -1 [21:10] picard_pwns_kirk: I've never used xrandr or any of that, I have nvidia [21:10] coz_: right, that's the default [21:10] it means "figure it out yourself" [21:10] I'm gonna reboot [21:11] Amaranth, setting it to 1 fixed it for the most part [21:11] coz_, right now, mainly world of warcraft under wine [21:12] Matir, do you also have compiz fusion running? [21:12] coz_, nope [21:14] back in x windows [21:15] jussi01: how did you do yours? [21:16] picard_pwns_kirk: I have ati, but I used to have intel. cant really remember [21:19] I am having a hard time keeping vmware-toolbox running longer than 15 20 minutes on alpha 4. The app keeps closing [21:31] ok I have to play with this firefox since none of the addons even themes for the most part work any longer [21:32] new firefox freaking me out [21:32] yes [21:39] I'm using 2.6.24-8, and grub2.. and it stops booting at "Time: acpi_pm clock source has been installed" [21:39] followed by going to busybox because /dev/hda1 does not exist [21:39] 2.6.24-7 works fine === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth [21:51] My dmraid package is broken. I'm not sure if this is just a broken hardy thing or if it's a proper broken thing. Either way, I don't know how to progress. I need to install things yet I can't because it keeps complaining about dmraid being knackered [21:52] I don't need dmraid anymore so I'm happy to nuke it but apt-get remove dmraid throws the same error as when trying to upgrade [22:07] cool! new wallpaper :p === danielm_ is now known as danielm [22:28] hi there... any gnome user with an nvidia card and an amd64 who'd like to test a version of sensors-applet built with nvidia support for me? [22:30] can it measure GPU load? [22:30] sistpoty: any chance it woulld work on kde? [22:30] it's a gnome panel applet [22:30] ahh, okies [22:30] i think.. [22:30] jussi01: then I wouldn't ask, as I'm running kde myself *g* [22:31] maybe there is some super s3cr3t trick to make it work, which I'm unaware of though [22:33] sistpoty: heh, fair enough === rockets_ is now known as rockets [22:58] Is there any stuff for pulse audio to add an analog tube compression type effect ?