[00:15] hi, where do i propose a alternate theme to ship with ubuntu? [00:17] <_MMA_> hbons: On the wiki. [00:18] _MMA_: ok, thanks:) === `23meg__ is now known as mgunes [08:20] hello everybody [08:20] is the fluxbuntu artwork creator in this channel? [10:07] troy_s: ^ [10:07] nothlit: ? [10:08] ok, so apparently my packaging skills suck [10:08] anyone here want to fix up the wallpaper package? [10:08] kwwii_: What is there to fix? Makefile hell? [10:09] troy_s: no, just some funky changelog stuff I don't get [10:10] ? [10:10] troy_s: someone asked for you earlier (flux art) :) [10:10] nothlit: Oh missed it. [10:10] apparently the last version was wrong and now my version is wrong as well [10:11] I'll figure it out [10:11] personally, I find that having artists do packaging is silly [10:12] isn't there a whole desktop team of developers who can package? [10:17] nothlit: well, nobody is interested [10:17] it took me two days to get one of them to even look at the source packages I made === kwwii_ is now known as kwwii [11:48] kwwii: added a few basic icons yesterday, in effect was quite trivial! [11:49] I had been looking for some "tools" to generate icons within inkscape the day before did not occur to me to try save as in gimp... [11:50] I must say they look far worse than the ubuntu one though... [11:52] all these to say that I still need (proper) icons, but not that urgently... :P [11:54] xivulon: cool, I'll add that to our team meeting and maybe we can find someone to help [12:09] thx [14:32] im looking for an article or guide on creating kde themes... anyone? [14:40] Toma-: there is no general article on such stuff [14:40] Toma-: but I am pretty good at it :-) [14:40] what did you do to find out how stuff works? [14:40] is it all plain text stuff? [14:45] well, I have quite a few years experience (did all the suse artwork for 7 years) [14:45] gotta head out now for a bit, bbl [14:46] hmm ok thanks anyway [15:15] i just learned that the artwork for the annoying bugs and brainstorm sites have to be modified, to not contain any hint of the ubuntu logo [15:15] thorwil: hey! [15:15] thorwil: thanks for your e-mail with the gtk logo [15:16] that all because people on different levels have different ideas how official or "community-driven" the sites shall be [15:16] andreasn: hi. np [15:17] I think it looks great, we should probably add the thinner "inside" lines so it looks transparent [15:17] so this is what you get for investing days. upper management kills it and never talks to you [15:18] andreasn: bbiab [15:42] andreasn: rl interruption, sorry [15:42] np [15:42] inside lines? [15:42] http://live.gnome.org/GTKLogo?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=gtk-logo.png [15:43] the "inner" dudes are slimmer [15:43] aha! [15:44] I can add that to your version, if you dont want to do it yourself [15:44] andreasn: cool, it's your logo ;) [15:44] Im really glad that someone with real perspective drawing knowledge took a look at this :) [15:44] I kind of slept through those classes... [15:44] andreasn: that someone is called Blender ;) [15:45] aha! [15:45] :D [15:45] while i can do that manually, i took blender to have it absolutely perfect [15:45] and for being able to fine tune the proportions by moving the camera [15:50] kwwii: do you see a conflict between my annoying_bugs and brainstorm logos and the ubuntu logo trademark policy? [15:51] <_MMA_> thorwil: Can you link us to something saying there was a conflict? [15:52] _MMA_: private mail from henrik, so no [15:54] i'm only disclosing this since the decision will be out for everyone to see and maybe i can get some argumentative help [15:56] <_MMA_> Well if this was private, I dont think it should be brought up here. But generally speaking, I can see why people would want the logo gone. At least for the Launchpad bugs one. [16:56] thorwil: well, good brand policy says that one never changes a logo but I am not sure how well that fits in this case [16:56] thorwil: who told you this? [17:00] kwwii: henrik told me. he said that the company actively works to avoid abuse of the logo and he implies its somehow in the trademark policy [17:01] would anyone say google has a bad brand policy? [17:01] thorwil: hrm, I'll ask him about whether this is his opinion or whether he got that from someone else [17:01] kwwii: no need, i guess [17:01] google is a special case as those changes are part of there short term branding [17:02] s/there/their [17:02] kwwii: this _might_ come from the global head of oerations [17:02] are those logos for official sites? [17:02] thorwil: I doubt that it came from anyone like that :p [17:03] +p [17:03] I know that we allow people to change the logo for non-official sites [17:03] kwwii: seems it has just now been decided to treat the sites more like community projects and less official-canonicalesc [17:04] hrm, then it should not be a problem I think [17:04] I will check into this...the work you did was really nice I would hate to see that go to waste [17:04] kwwii: thank you, this is what i was hoping for! :) [17:05] maybe i should have PMed you, but earlier today i was a bit angry and thought everyone should know about these communication issues :/ [17:07] hehe, no worries, I can understand your frustration [17:07] phew :) [17:15] well, I am off for the evening, bbl [17:28] thorwil: got a quick response from Henrick...it was a pretty official decision but I am discussing it with those who made it, I'll let you know what happens [17:28] kwwii: ok === njpatel is now known as njpatel_away === darkmatter_ is now known as darkmatter