[00:00] <Bodsda> K4k, do you have to use sudo?
[00:00] <nemilar> illriginal: just ask, if anyone knows, they'll ask
[00:00] <Slart> K4k: check the bash manual.. there are switches for redirecting stuff..
[00:00] <miltiadis21> Irrelevant Question:If i want to describe a proccess in a client what diagram should i use? For example when we add an item an item can have 4 different actions
[00:00] <nemilar> K4k: If I remember correctly 2> redirects errors, but let me check
[00:00] <prince_jammys> K4k: 2>
[00:00] <Bodsda> miltiadis21, if its irrelivent,.,.ask it somewhere else
[00:00] <K4k> k, I'm looking though the man file now
[00:00] <illriginal> Does anyone know how to set the permissions for allowing FTPing to a domain?
[00:00] <nemilar> prince_jammys: is that both stderr and stdout or just stderr?
[00:01] <K4k> thanks a lot guys
[00:01] <Che-Anarc> I got Intel Corporation 82830 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller]  not sure if its AGP or anything but DRI does not work...  I got modules loaded, etc... but glxinfo still says no rendering using mesa  :-(   what can I do?
[00:01] <nemilar> illriginal: you'll need write permissions for the directory
[00:01] <prince_jammys> K4k: error_prone_command 2>error.log
[00:01] <nemilar> illriginal: and write permissions for any file you wish to overwrite
[00:01] <miltiadis21> i thought thaat someone from here knew but anyway thanks ;)
[00:01] <Photocopy> help
[00:01] <Photocopy> How do I make my desktop iconless? Icons make wallpaper look bad.
[00:01] <astro76> !ask | Photocopy
[00:01] <ubotu> Photocopy: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[00:02] <prince_jammys> nemilar: 1 is stdout, 2 is stderr
[00:02] <Bodsda> !help > Photocopy      please read pm from ubotu
[00:02] <Photocopy> Bodsda, astro76: Note I immediately asked after, I slipped and pressed enter by accident anyway.
[00:02] <illriginal> nemilar, I'm tryin to upload files to my website via FTP, but it claims that I cannot because I don't have the permission. How can I give permission to my Desktop?
[00:02] <pmratpoison> hello! Canon provides deb packages for my multifunction which work on i386. Can I make them work for amd64?
[00:03] <astro76> Photocopy: I did indeed, and Bodsda you should check what triggers actually do before you send them to someone
[00:03] <Photocopy> astro76: That worked... Bodsda's command worked.
[00:03] <kitche> Photocopy: it's an option in gnome's config editor name slipped my mind irght now
[00:03] <Bodsda> astro76, damn,.,.i thought i knew that one,.,.whats the trigger for telling them not to just put help?
[00:03] <Photocopy> kitche: Unfortunately I dont know what this config editor is
[00:04] <Bodsda> Photocopy, he means it wasnt the trigger i thought it was
[00:04] <frank__> join #ubuntuuser.de
[00:04] <prince_jammys> !helpme | Bodsda
[00:04] <ubotu> Bodsda: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[00:04] <sampoo> how long is a ban for usually?
[00:04] <spdf> Photocopy:
[00:04] <astro76> Bodsda: probably the one I did ;)
[00:04] <Bodsda> prince_jammys, cheers dude,.,. ive been using !help--not good   lol
[00:04] <Photocopy> bodsda: I thought he meant the ">" as opposed to the "|"
[00:04] <MFen> man, when you actually want an opinion, nobody has one
[00:04] <Photocopy> spdf:  ?
[00:04] <astro76> sampoo: you could ask in #ubuntu-ops
[00:04] <spdf> Photocopy: open up gconf-editor, apps > nautilus -> volumes_visible
[00:04] <sampoo> ok
[00:04] <Bodsda> astro76, no i was after !helpme    its more relevent to what he said then !ask
[00:05] <BockBilbo> sorry.. my connection here sucks xD
[00:05] <prince_jammys> prince_jammys: :)
[00:05] <Photocopy> spdf: I meant that I dont want icons on the desktop
[00:05] <Photocopy> Thanks for trying spdf: I gotta go though
[00:05] <spdf> Photocopy: Uncheck the volumes_visible option
[00:05] <pmratpoison> hello! Canon provides deb packages for my multifunction which work on i386. Can I make them work for amd64?
[00:05] <spdf> Oh well.. That's how you do it..
[00:05] <sampoo> is there a beginners chat?
[00:06] <pmratpoison> !ask
[00:06] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[00:06] <Slart> pmratpoison: depends.. it would be easier if they supplied source
[00:06] <Slart> sampoo: this is it
[00:06] <illriginal> Does anyone know how to give permissions to upload files to a domain via FTP?
[00:06] <sampoo> thx
[00:06] <BockBilbo> illriginal chmod?
[00:06] <pmratpoison> Slart: well, I tried installing the debs and they claim they are for the wrong arch
[00:07] <Slart> illriginal: eh.. what's the scenario here? you
[00:07] <Slart> you've got a domain? a ftp server?
[00:07] <sampoo> is there a plug-in to handle some xine streams not in synaptic?
[00:07] <Slart> pmratpoison: you can force install if you really want to.. you had to do that with wine some time ago
[00:08] <Slart> pmratpoison: but it depends on if it's a stand alone application... or if it will be working with something else..
[00:08] <illriginal> Slart my company is a webhosting company, they've given us a free domain and I would like to start developing.. I was told to use FireFTP (built in firefox extension) that will let me upload my files to my domain.
[00:08] <Slart> illriginal: ok.. and this doesn't work?
[00:09] <pmratpoison> Slart: on i386 you just install the debs and modify some post script file. It doesn't have any special printing front-end
[00:09] <illriginal> no FireFTP claims that I'm having Permission issues.
[00:09] <pike_> illriginal: any ftp client will work of course. the issue is at the server side
[00:09] <pmratpoison> how does one force the debs to install? is this undo-able?
[00:09] <illriginal> Slart, in order words, I need to give my desktop and the folder, "website" permission to be accessed via FireFTP
[00:09] <jdix123> I'm trying to get desktop effects to work so I can run compiz, but I'm having no luck.  Video driver is ati radeon mobility 7500 w/ 32m vram
[00:09] <prince_jammys> illriginal: it's the server that's not allowing you to upload
[00:09] <Slart> illriginal: then I guess you have to talk to whoever runs the server
[00:10] <kitche> illriginal: ftp server needs to be setup correctly
[00:10] <eli> i'm having some issues with my virtual terminals in gutsy.  it's hard to describe, but TTY1-6 have all their text pushed to the right so i can only see half the screen
[00:10] <Slart> pmratpoison: yes.. you can uninstall just like usual.. you install using dpkg -i --force-architecture yourdebfilehere.deb
[00:10] <illriginal> The server side?.. It was workin on Windows. And if I use the Java applet (web based) FTP, it'll upload without a problem.
[00:10] <eli> and the text seems bigger than it should be
[00:11] <Whisper> whats the name of the sshd package?
[00:11] <sampoo> what does xine-plugin no input plug-in to handle stream  mean I should do?
[00:11] <astro76> Whisper: openssh-server
[00:11] <Slart> !info openssh-server
[00:11] <ubotu> openssh-server (source: openssh): secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.6p1-5ubuntu0.1 (gutsy), package size 241 kB, installed size 640 kB
[00:11] <Itaku> dang it
[00:11] <Itaku> wine wont open my mirc
[00:11] <kitche> illriginal: or look up on how to configure FireFTP correctly
[00:11] <Whisper> thanks alot! :)
[00:11] <eli> also, i noticed it started happening after i used System -> Start-Up Manager
[00:11] <illriginal> Slart, this is the error I receive when I double click on my Desktop folder which is located on my FTP: You do not have the appropriate permissions or directory does not exist.
[00:11] <astro76> Whisper: or ssh is a metapacke which installs both server and client
[00:11] <tanner> how can i make devices from a pci expresscard automount like usb?
[00:12] <Whisper> astro76 okay thanks
[00:12] <as2> hi people
[00:12] <as2> i need some help
[00:12] <as2> regarding linux in generall
[00:12] <as2> general
[00:12] <Pici> !ask
[00:13] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[00:13] <prince_jammys> !helpme | as2
[00:13] <ubotu> as2: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[00:13] <neverblue> tanner, so you mean while your system is running, you want to plug in a PCIE card into your system?
[00:13] <pike_> illriginal: could it be a timeout issue? if you log back into ftp server and try immediately?
[00:13] <as2> my question is complicated regarding  finding where partition start and partition ends are
[00:14] <Dr_willis> as2,  'sudo fdisk -l' shows that info i belive
[00:14] <illriginal> pike_ that was the first thing I thought, and did exactly that. Quickly disconnected then reconnected, but FTP still claims that I don't have the right to access my files in order to upload them.
[00:14] <as2> i first do this: dd if=/dev/hda of=hidden.img bs=7741440 skip=9932
[00:14] <neverblue> as2, if you would be so kinda as to state your question on one line, im sure someone would be more than happy to help you
[00:14] <jms> I'm trying to copy a file over a local network from a windows machine. I'm a linux newbie and don't know the command, or the process, can anyone walk me through it?
[00:14] <as2> to extract a partition into image
[00:14] <tanner> neverblue: sorta, i want to plug an eSATA drive into my PCIE card and have it auto mount
[00:14] <prince_jammys> !enter | as2
[00:14] <ubotu> as2: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[00:14] <Whisper> i get this error all the time just after a fresh install of ubuntu, what to do? [  983.617382] DAC960#0: Physical Device 0:6 Errors: Parity = 0, Soft = 0, Hard = 0, Misc = 93
[00:14] <as2> ok SORRY ! :)
[00:15] <Slart> illriginal: hmm..I'd love to help you troubleshoot this but I have to get to bed.. ask the room again.. put errormessages in a pastebin page and you'll ge4t help in no time
[00:15] <sampoo> how can i play a stream using xine when 'xine-plug-in: no input plug-in to handle stream' ?
[00:15] <pike_> illriginal: id suggest trying nautilus as an ftp client its a good as anything but .. are these files in your home dir?
[00:15] <Slart> !paste | illriginal
[00:15] <ubotu> illriginal: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[00:15] <rxsa> is there a possibility or a program which can mount drives on start-up without entering the root-pw every time? (ahhh,  i'm a total newbie to linux, though)
[00:15] <illriginal> pike_ they're in a folder named, "Website" inside of my Desktop
[00:16] <kitche> rxsa: yeah add th drive to your /etc/fstab
[00:16] <illriginal> thanks anyways, Slart
[00:16] <rxsa> sorry, but how? *g*
[00:16] <_Oz_> Hello, Ubuntu friends!
[00:16] <as2> SO my question : i want to do that what is described here:  dd if=/dev/hda of=hidden.img bs=7741440 skip=9932   With an hexadecimal editor (like hexedit for example), I looked for the beginning of a valid partition, identified by the string "IBM  7.0" or "IBM  7.1". I found several consecutive partitions, that I extracted into six distinct files :    dd if=hidden.img of=diags.img    bs=512 skip=26850 count=15063 dd if=hidden.img of=diags2.img  
[00:16] <as2> --------------------------------------
[00:16] <as2> EXPLAIN
[00:16] <pike_> illriginal: maybe do a quick sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME
[00:16] <as2> -------------------------------------
[00:16] <as2> My algorithm to find the partition limits is rather simple. Starting from the beginning of the hidden.img area, I mount the file using a loop device, I obtain the partition size in 1k blocks with df, and I search the beginning of a new partition around the corresponding offset, in the image file. I iterate this algorithm with the new discovered partition, until the end of the hidden.img area is reached.
[00:16] <FloodBot2> as2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:16] <as2> ------------------------------------------------------------
[00:16] <_Oz_> Question: How do I change file associations?  I want movie files to open in VLC, rather than Totem (the default player).
[00:16] <Dr_willis> _Oz_,  under gnome? right cliock on one of the files - its in its properties somewhere.
[00:17] <illriginal> ok give me one second pike_
[00:17] <sampoo> also, soes pes2008 run on wine? with some sort of plug-in for active x?
[00:17] <Joetheodd> What's xubuntu, again? What windowmanager does it have?
[00:17] <pike_> xfce4
[00:17] <Dr_willis> !xubuntu
[00:17] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels
[00:17] <as2> so since that what i pasted is too long
[00:17] <Jangari> in nautilus, can i change which columns are displayed in list view?
[00:17] <as2> somebody linux guru
[00:17] <as2> ?
[00:17] <prince_jammys> as2 #linux
[00:17] <as2> i will write it on private
[00:17] <jdix123> I'm trying to get desktop effects to work so I can run compiz, but I'm having no luck.  Video driver is ati radeon mobility 7500 w/ 32m vram
[00:17] <Jangari> i want to include audio information, bitrate and resolution, for instance
[00:17] <pike_> as2: id paste it to a url too
[00:17] <prince_jammys> as2 try #linux
[00:18] <as2> ok thanks
[00:18] <as2> :)
[00:18] <Joetheodd> Can I install xubuntu from the default ubuntu install cd if I select server and then install xubuntu-desktop?
[00:19] <pike_> Joetheodd: you can install ubuntu then in addition xubuntu-desktop
[00:19] <Dr_willis> Joetheodd,  installing xubuntu-desktop  would give you the full set of xubuntu  features. :0
[00:19] <Joetheodd> pike_, the problem is I don't want to see what would happen if I tried running gnome on my target box.
[00:19] <Dr_willis> I tend to install ubuntu, then xubuntu-desktop, then kubuntu-desktop
[00:19] <prince_jammys> Joetheodd: you can install xubuntu on any existing ubuntu installation, including server
[00:20] <Dr_willis> i rarely have any issues with installing all the desktops
[00:20] <Jangari> goddam redhat's only supporting outdated versions of sox!
[00:20] <Picachoo> Dr_willis any more linux free games.. best ones ?
[00:20] <Joetheodd> This thing is 291MHz :P
[00:20] <rxsa> kitche: sorry, but how? *g*
[00:20] <pike_> Joetheodd: didnt read your whole question in fact thats exactly what i normally do
[00:20] <pike_> Joetheodd: server install then X stuff will work fine
[00:20] <Dr_willis> Picachoo,  use the package manager to search. and look at that Linux game tome/Happy Penguin sites .
[00:20] <_Oz_> Excellent, dr_willis.  That was it.  Perfect!  They open in VLC now.  Thank you.
[00:20] <Dr_willis> Picachoo,  depends on what games you like.  Ive been playing Yoshi's Island lately. :)
[00:21] <Joetheodd> pike_, thanks, I'd just go the easy road except for I'm afraid this box won't be happy with me. Let's just say that dumpster diving could be an upgrade to it :P
[00:21] <Dr_willis> _Oz_,  yea. its a littel odd how you have to find a file you want to change the type for, to get to the filetype stuff..  if theres a nother way to find that selection/options. ive not found it yet.
[00:21] <Picachoo> Dr_willis i would like all famous ones. quality ones. can you name as many as you know?
[00:21] <pike_> Joetheodd: maybe install xserver-xorg fluxbox  then echo exec fluxbox > ~/.xinitrc  then just xinit to launch if its a very low resource box
[00:21] <bidou> yop all
[00:21] <eigma> I'm having trouble netbooting 7.04 on a Cyrix 6x86 CPU - the kernel Oops'es very early on somewhere in native_cpuid (called from identify_cpu, ..., start_kernel). I want to recompile the netboot kernel (install/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/kernel) for the Cyrix CPU. where can I find .config files for the netboot kernels?
[00:21] <sampoo> how long does it usually take for some feedback here?...not trying to be subversive!
[00:22] <Dr_willis> Picachoo,  go get DOOM. :) theres a dozen variants/remakes of it for linux.
[00:22] <K4k> Ok, so now I got X to run, but my mouse doesn't respond, any suggestions?
[00:22] <jdix123> joetheodd - check out fluxbuntu...can dl iso of ubuntu w/ fluxbox
[00:22] <Picachoo> Dr_willis doom is not free
[00:23] <illriginal> pike_ i tried the command but still nothing, do you happen to know the command to give me permission over everything?....
[00:23] <kitche> Picachoo: umm yes it is well not the doom but doom variants yes
[00:23] <_Oz_> Dr_willis: yeah, there are some oddities in Ubuntu, like that one.  Overall, I really like it, though.
[00:23] <_Oz_> Logic suggests that you'd change file associations in one global place rather than within a single example of that file type.
[00:23] <pike_> illriginal: that was it you do not need any additional permission on the client box
[00:23] <mark17> is it possible to see the network statistics for a single IP on my server (every IP uses a different network card alias)?
[00:23] <_Oz_> But...  hey...  Linux isn't always logical. :) Part of the charm, I guess.
[00:24] <Joetheodd> I'm aware that this isn't an ubuntu issue but I'm sure you guys know. I'm using an ASUS P2L97 mobo, and it's got 3 RAM slots. If I have a stick of 64, 32, and 32, can I stick them all in?
[00:24] <prince_jammys> illriginal: it is a server-side issue
[00:24] <sangprabo> Hi, everyone. I have downloaded a *.chm file, and it seemed I cannot open it until I "unblock active content" by (if I use Windows Explorer) select Properties -> Unblock. How do I do that in Linux? I am using Ubuntu Gutsy and xchm. Thanks
[00:24] <kitche> Picachoo: and yes doom engine has been open source for quite some time
[00:24] <pike_> illriginal: open a terminal and try cd ~/Desktop/thatdir then ftp servername   then mput *  and see what happens
[00:24] <illriginal> hm... i guess so. But why does it let me use their Java applet in order to ftp into my domain?>
[00:24] <rxsa> soooh, i'm really a total newbie to ubuntu and all unix os' and have no clue how to mount drives on start-up without entering the root-pw every time?
[00:24] <Picachoo> kitche whats the exact name of doom freee version?
[00:24] <nemilar> sangprabo: have you tried the CHM reader?
[00:24] <pike_> illriginal: does the java applet require you to login?
[00:24] <K4k> anyone have any idea why when I do startx I don't have any mouse response?
[00:24] <sega01> hey. i am working on an ipv6 vpn for privacy, anonytomy, free speech, and wanted to verify that the most commonly used distribution can connect. http://eleuther.net/ if you are interested
[00:24] <Joetheodd> rxsa, that's the beauty of it. Only root is allowed to do that.
[00:25] <nemilar> K4k: pastebin your xorg log
[00:25] <rxsa> i am root
[00:25] <nickrud> !fstab | rxsa
[00:25] <ubotu> rxsa: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[00:25] <illriginal> yeah same username and password I use in order to log into the fireftp
[00:25] <prince_jammys> illriginal: because you're not writing anything to their filesystem
[00:25] <rxsa> but i just want to make more comfortable for me
[00:25] <sangprabo> nemilar: thank you for your response. No, I've not tried it. I will install it soon.
[00:25] <nemilar> sangprabo: check out the gnochm package, it's what I use
[00:25] <K4k> nemilar: hang on, I told it to save the ouput errors to a file, I'll paste bin that, it appears though x started there were some errors present
[00:26] <rxsa> thx a lot  i think!
[00:26] <sangprabo> nemilar: gnochm? okay
[00:26] <pike_> illriginal: very odd. try gftp or nautilus... other than that not sure sorry
[00:26] <kitche> Picachoo: to many to name but one is doom legacy
[00:26] <Jangari> rxsa: firstly, are you sure you're root? did you actually go and  enable the root account, then physically log in as root? because you shouldn't really do that
[00:26] <Dr_willis> _Oz_,  comapred to the disaster setting default programs  under windows is.. Gnome is very logical. :P
[00:26] <sampoo> has anyone here successfully re-wrapped their kernal to enable touchscreens in an LG?
[00:27] <Jangari> secondly, rxsa, you should be able to configure your fstab to automatically mount partitoins on your system on startup
[00:27] <K4k> nemilar, http://www.pastebin.ca/904522
[00:27] <_Oz_> Dr_willis: no argument there. :)
[00:27] <_Oz_> Gnome is great overall.  Really like it.
[00:27] <K4k> nemilar: it appears I can't lock .Xauthority
[00:27] <K4k> how can I fix that?
[00:27] <nemilar> K4k: that can't be your entire xorg.0.log file
[00:27] <_Oz_> Just a few weird things like that to deal with, and they're no big deal.
[00:27] <K4k> nemilar: no I said that's the error I get when I start xorg
[00:28] <sangprabo> rxsa: I think you need to do something with your /etc/fstab file...
[00:28] <nemilar> K4k: the entire log would be more helpful
[00:28] <K4k> k one sec
[00:28] <illriginal> pike_ you mentioned to open up terminal and type: cd ~/Desktop/Website then type my domain's ftp, then type mput*
[00:28] <Jangari> does anyone know if the heron alpha 4 downloadable iso is a liveCD?
[00:28] <prince_jammys> K4k: ls -l .Xauthority
[00:28] <prince_jammys> K4k: who owns the file
[00:28] <pike_> illriginal: yeah or mput *.extension
[00:28] <sangprabo> nemilar: What kind of package should I install / configure?
[00:28] <Itaku> whats the development channel for ubuntu
[00:28] <frijolie> if I'm installing ubuntu on a fresh hard drive and making the partitions myself...
[00:28] <K4k> prince_jammys, erm...root apparently
[00:29] <nemilar> sangprabo: 'sudo apt-get install gnochm' should work fine
[00:29] <frijolie> how do you allocate a seperate partition for my /home directory?
[00:29] <kitche> Itaku: well there is #ubuntu-dev but not what you think I believe
[00:29] <nemilar> sangprabo: it will install "CHM Viewer" in the Applications - Accessories menu
[00:29] <K4k> prince_jammys, should I chown it to myself?
[00:29] <prince_jammys> sudo chown your_user .Xauthority
[00:29] <frijolie> just specify /home as the mount point?
[00:29] <Jangari> frijolie: it should be straighforward with the gui installation
[00:29] <Itaku> it like has a 1 in it
[00:29] <prince_jammys> K4k: I own mine
[00:29] <prince_jammys> K4k: i was trying to tell you this a while back
[00:29] <sampoo> how do i open a stream on xine when the input message says i have no input plug-in to handle the stream? I think i have all the right plug-ins installed?
[00:30] <frijolie> Jangari: i tried that and nautilus didn't recognize the full allocated disk space
[00:30] <sangprabo> nemilar: okay, thank you. I've installed it. Trying...
[00:30] <kitche> Itaku: #ubuntu+1 is for the next version of Ubuntu
[00:30] <Dr_willis> frijolie,  thats the basics of it  mount /dev/sda2 (or whatever) to /home
[00:30] <K4k> now it says -rw------ 1 ted root 0 2008-02-14 19:10 .Xauthority=
[00:30] <Alysum> hello Im using a laptop with external monitor and the screens are cloned, how do I set it to extend ?
[00:30] <K4k> but for some reason it still gives me errors when I start
[00:30] <pike_> K4k: sudo rm ~/.Xauthority*
[00:30] <Alysum> without editing xorg.conf
[00:30] <jrod> anyone else have problems viewing videos on youtube.com w/ firefox???
[00:30] <sampoo> thankx if anyone can help
[00:30] <pike_> K4k: itll be recreated
[00:30] <illriginal> right now terminal shows, ftp>   (how do I connect ftp using terminal?), pike_
[00:30] <Jangari> jrod: got flash?
[00:30] <pike_> open servername
[00:30] <jrod> yes
[00:30] <pike_> illriginal: ^
[00:31] <siriusnova> hello - can i get some help with trying to play an Itunes shared Library via Rhythmbox
[00:31] <jrod> its very choppy
[00:31] <prince_jammys> K4k: sudo chgrp your_group .Xauthority  <--- let's just eliminate all doubt
[00:31] <mjw-> jrod: you don't have gnash installed do you?
[00:31] <Jangari> i don't mean the flashplugin-nonfree, nor the gnash-player
[00:31] <frijolie> Dr_willis: during an install? or do you just leave it as "free space" where it is automatically allocated to the /home directory?
[00:31] <Jangari> i mean actual flash, from adobe
[00:31] <sangprabo> nemilar: I reopen the file, and it seemed that I only get strange characters like ËÉÿÅËÉÿÅËÉÿÅ... :(
[00:31] <jrod> no
[00:31] <sputnick> hi
[00:31] <jrod> gnash
[00:31] <nemilar> sangprabo: strange.. it's a .CHM file?
[00:31] <Jangari> http://www.adobe.com/go/getflash
[00:31] <Jangari> i think it is
[00:31] <K4k> prince_jammys, ok I did that but it still spits out errors and mouse still doesn't respond
[00:31] <mjw-> Jangari the flashplugin-nonfree package is fine
[00:31] <sangprabo> nemilar: similar with if I use xchm or another chm viewer..
[00:31] <Alysum> Dual monitor help needed please
[00:32] <mjw-> and is the "real" flash
[00:32] <jdix123> jangari - dunno if it was answerred, but hardy is avail as a live cd dl
[00:32] <kitche> Jangari: well flashplugin-nonfree is the actual flash from adobe
[00:32] <Jangari> i've never had flashplugin-nonfree working
[00:32] <Dr_willis> frijolie,  in my case i have a filesystem at /dev/hdb1 - the whole disk. That i tell the installer to mount to /home
[00:32] <prince_jammys> K4k: the exact same errors?
[00:32] <nemilar> sangprabo: hrm, where'd you get the CHM ?
[00:32] <sangprabo> nemilar: yes, it came from http://www.supermemo.com/english/helpdown.htm
[00:32] <K4k> yup
[00:32] <mjw-> jrod what does glxinfo | grep -i direct   return?
[00:32] <sputnick> anyone have a clue to repopulate my manpages-fr ? many people have more than 250 hint :  find //usr/share/man/fr* | wc -l
[00:32] <Jangari> jdix123: thanks, is there a link?
[00:32] <Picachoo> Dr_willis  the mirc beeps the system speaker on connect or message sounds. not the real sound. why so?  i hope if i install windows games. ill get the exact video graphic and sound quality in wine too?
[00:32] <sampoo> is xine rubbish, and i should install something elso?
[00:32] <Dr_willis> frijolie,  its allready setup for me - since its my old home. Its not unallocated.. In your case for the first time you may need to format it.
[00:32] <nemilar> sangprabo: I'll try it out over here
[00:32] <Jangari> for me, only downlaoding a tarball from adobe and ./flash-installing has worked
[00:32] <Dr_willis> Picachoo,   the 'mirc' ?
[00:32] <jdix123> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[00:33] <jrod> YES
[00:33] <Jangari> and i'm talking about more than ten different installations all on gutsy, so far
[00:33] <prince_jammys> K4k: paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:33] <nickrud> sampoo: xine is fine, vlc also. Some players seem to play some files better than others though
[00:33] <Picachoo> Dr_willis windows app i am using with wine. it gives a system speeker beep. not real sound
[00:33] <sangprabo> nemilar: Thank you. I've downloaded smhelp.chm, the latest one (2006)
[00:33] <illriginal> pike_ it's askin me to login using username and password... how would I do this?
[00:33] <pike_> illriginal: just type your username hit enter then passowrd and enter
[00:33] <Dr_willis> Picachoo,  you do realize thers dozens of irc clients out OTHER then mirc. :) mIRC is rather lame in ways.. heh.
[00:33] <illriginal> oh :X
[00:34] <Dr_willis> Picachoo,  try the games and see.. is about all i cansay
[00:34] <mjw-> jrod: that's odd, youtube should work fine (unless you're on a quite old machine)...just make sure you don't have gnash installed... sudo apt-get remove gnash
[00:34] <Picachoo> Dr_willis yes. but i like mric. but the point was the why wine is not giving sound
[00:34] <illriginal> nah says, invalid command, pike_
[00:34] <Picachoo> Dr_willis can you give some sites where i can see rated /ranked free linux games?
[00:34] <zzza> anyone able to install vimdiff in gutsy
[00:35] <prince_jammys> illriginal: are you doing ftp from command line?
[00:35] <sampoo> xine seems to be default on mozilla, can i cahnge i to VLC?
[00:35] <zzza> vimdiff seems to have gone missing
[00:35] <kitche> sampoo: if you install the vlc-plugin you can
[00:35] <sampoo> thankx
[00:35] <illriginal> prince_jammys, yes... unfortunately even if I can connect via Terminal... I wouldn't know what the heck to do.
[00:35] <prince_jammys> illriginal: if so try --->  user your_user_name
[00:36] <jrod> gnash removed... i'll load the actual adobe one and let u know what i come up with
[00:36] <pike_> illriginal: type 'bye' then enter then ftp servername  you will be prompted for a username then a password
[00:36] <Mushrooms> I have a question regarding the structure of linux. In windows, when you install new programs, typically it gets dumped in 'program files'. Is there an equivalent of this in Ubuntu?
[00:36] <zzza> sudo apt-get install vimdiff "E: Couldn't find package vimdiff"
[00:36] <Jangari> jrod,
[00:36] <mjw-> jrod: apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree will fetch the correct adobe version for you
[00:36] <Jangari> try at first testing youtube having uninstalled gnash, better scientific method that way
[00:37] <Mushrooms> jrod: I tried going to Youtube the other day, and firefox hung on me hardcore
[00:37] <siriusnova> anyone able to access an iTunes shared library in linux yet?
[00:37] <prince_jammys> Mushrooms: no, they dont go all in one place (and in windows they don't either, not exactly)
[00:37] <mike16> hi all i just install phpmyadmin, but i dont remeber setting a password, and its asking for one, is their a defualt, or can someone tell my how to set the mysql passowrd thanks
[00:37] <nemilar> sangprabo: it looks like they're using some IE hooks... I don't know if you'll be able to get it to work out-of-the-box in linux
[00:37] <mjw-> siriusnova afaik it's not possible to connect third party clients to iTunes 7.x shares
[00:37] <Jangari> easy, siriusnova, so easy that i wouldn't be able to recount how to do it
[00:37] <siriusnova> mjw - damn :(
[00:38] <pike_> Mushrooms: everything shares directories youll notice if you type 'which gedit' it gives a generic bin path executables are in bin dirs libs in lib dirs generally
[00:38] <Picachoo> i have just uninstalled many apps but still i experience slow speed. (speed was good at fresh kubuntu install though).  why so?
[00:38] <Jangari> mjw-: seriously?
[00:38] <nemilar> mike16: http://www.netadmintools.com/art90.html
[00:38] <illriginal> -.- claims that login failed. Yet I can connect with fireftp without a problem
[00:38] <tumbleweed05> whats up people?
[00:38] <pike_> Mushrooms: er.. which nano
[00:38] <sangprabo> nemilar: is ther any other way to open it? If open it using Windows, could it opened in Linux after?
[00:38] <prince_jammys> Mushrooms: a package will place its executables in /usr/share/bin, its documentation in /usr/share/doc, its libraries in /usr/share/lib
[00:38] <mjw-> Jangari last i checked, admittedly a few months back, you could only access itunes 6 or older shares
[00:38] <mike16> thanks nemilar i will bookmark thatn ow
[00:38] <Jangari> doesn't an itunes library just operate as an ntfs file system as per normal windows file system?
[00:38] <nemilar> sangprabo: I doubt it... but you can get it to work in Wine, I'd bet
[00:38] <sampoo> installed all the vlc plugins, xine still the default player for some streams?
[00:38] <prince_jammys> Mushrooms: so yes in that typically everything is within different folders of /usr
[00:39] <sampoo> how can i change that
[00:39] <sampoo> ?
[00:39] <K4k> prince_jammys, http://pastebin.ca/904934
[00:39] <sangprabo> nemilar: okay. I will try it. Thank you very much of your kind, nemilar :)
[00:39] <Mushrooms> prince_jammys: I see. In the "pidgin.im" website there are some instructions to close conversation windows using the Esc key, but it tells me to locate the .purple library first. I'm guessing that because it starts with a '.' the folder will be invisiable
[00:39] <K4k> prince_jammys, http://pastebin.ca/904534
[00:39] <K4k> sorry
[00:39] <nemilar> sangprabo: np.. hope it works for you
[00:39] <mjw-> Jangari no - it's DAAP based. nothing to do with ntfs.
[00:39] <sampoo> uninstall xine?
[00:39] <Mushrooms> prince_jammys: sorry that should have been .purple directory
[00:40] <prince_jammys> Mushrooms: if it's a hidden file, it's likely to be a personal configuration directory located in your home folder
[00:40] <quittt> do you know a programme which can read the things for you?
[00:40] <Jangari> mjw-: whoa, you're not talking just about a simple itunes library on any old machine, are you?
[00:40] <prince_jammys> K4k: tell the other person who was helping you too
[00:40] <pike_> !festival | quittt
[00:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about festival - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:40] <Jangari> man, i'm glad i weaned myself off itunes altogether
[00:40] <Mushrooms> prince_jammys: I see, I should be able to see all of those in the terminal then
[00:40] <mjw-> Jangari I'm talking about the "sharing" option that is present in itunes.
[00:40] <Jangari> oh, right
[00:40] <quittt> pike_, festival? there is an app with that name?
[00:40] <pike_> quittt: yes or ktalk
[00:40] <illriginal> ok pike_ i finally logged in... now what should I do?...
[00:40] <prince_jammys> Mushrooms: you can see them in a gui also
[00:41] <K4k> nemilar http://pastebin.ca/904534
[00:41] <pike_> illriginal: what files do you have in that dir? what extensions?
[00:41] <Jangari> screw that, just mount the whole system in ubuntu and nav to it, and add the library to 'my places' or something
[00:41] <Perro> como hago
[00:41] <prince_jammys> Mushrooms: enable "show hidden files" or do Ctrl-H in nautilus if you use gnome
[00:41] <illriginal> index.html is in my website folder
[00:41] <mrMister> Hi, I just updated ubuntu and now flas doesn't work. is this a common problem or am I the ony sufferer?
[00:41] <pike_> illriginal: mput *.html
[00:41] <mrMister> flash
[00:41] <illriginal> ok
[00:41] <sampoo> now i remember where i installed xine and why, when i wanted to play a BBC stream...is there a better solution/streamer?
[00:41] <Perro> #argentina
[00:41] <Jangari> well, rhythmbox on my ubuntu installation and windows media player on my xp pro installation working from the same media libraries works sweet
[00:42] <tumbleweed05> ok people. i installed ubuntu 7.10 and just the other day my computer won't start up.
[00:42] <tumbleweed05> any reason?
[00:42] <illriginal> sweet..
[00:42] <illriginal> it uploaded.
[00:42] <tumbleweed05> it was working great.
[00:42] <K4k> mrMister, IIRC it's still broken last I saw
[00:42] <Jangari> tumbleweed05: what does it do?
[00:42] <pike_> illriginal: html is text so its fine if you wanted to upload a binary file like a zip youd type binary first then mput *.zip
[00:42] <tumbleweed05> doesn't even load the bios.
[00:42] <pike_> illriginal: looks like a crappy client
[00:42] <jrod> removing gnash and loading the adobe player worked perfectly
[00:42] <jrod> thanks for the help
[00:42] <illriginal> Fireftp?...
[00:42] <tumbleweed05> just flashes the caps, num, and scroll lock light and thats it.
[00:42] <tumbleweed05> just sits there.
[00:42] <kitche> tuna: umm if your computer doesn't even power on at all then it's hardware issue
[00:42] <pike_> illriginal: yes. use nautilus or gftp
[00:42] <Mushrooms> prince_jammys: ah yep i see it now thanks :) I was going to go ls -a and then locating it from there
[00:43] <Jangari> doesn't show anything on the monitor at all, tumbleweed05?
[00:43] <tumbleweed05> nope.
[00:43] <kitche> tumbleweed05: soudns liek a hardware issue
[00:43] <Jangari> odd
[00:43] <illriginal> ok brb pike_ im gonna download gftp, hopefully i have better luck than using fireftp.
[00:43] <Jangari> it does
[00:43] <tumbleweed05> dang it.
[00:43] <tumbleweed05> i like it might be the hard drive. but i'm not sure.
[00:43] <Jangari> does a liveCD work, tumbleweed05?
[00:43] <pike_> illriginal: gluck
[00:43] <tumbleweed05> i can't even hear it try to load up the hd.
[00:43] <tumbleweed05> jangari: i haven't tried yet.
[00:43] <prince_jammys> Mushrooms: windows has hidden files so that you can't mess with the system, linux has hidden files purely for convenience (all those config files get in the way)
[00:43] <Jangari> how did you install in the first place?
[00:44] <tumbleweed05> from the livecd.
[00:44] <Dr_willis> Ive found so many weird hidden things under windows.. its.. scary. Empty folders that i cant delete.. but are 'system critical' and so forth. :)
[00:44] <Jangari> oh, just saw you said it doesn't even load the bios
[00:44] <tumbleweed05> lol.
[00:44] <blubb0r> does anyone know a good media player without gui?
[00:44] <haxality> Dr_willis, they probably contain OS files that are hidden by windows..
[00:44] <haxality> blubb0r, video or audio?
[00:45] <K4k> yea, there is a way to show "system files" that are different from just normal hidden files
[00:45] <kitche> blubb0r: mplayer
[00:45] <blubb0r> audio..
[00:45] <Jangari> tumbleweed05: old machine, or what?
[00:45] <Siph0n> hey...  is it possible to hide the network password from the /etc/network/interfaces file? googling for "hide key from /etc/network/interfaces" didn't work out too well...
[00:45] <tumbleweed05> not really.
[00:45] <Jangari> i.e., has it ever worked?
[00:45] <tumbleweed05> sony vaio vgn-n230n
[00:45] <Dr_willis> haxality,  it was totally empty. :)  i checked and was able to remove it under linux.   But its one of the mysteries of windows. Heh
[00:45] <tumbleweed05> it came with vista.
[00:46] <tumbleweed05> got pissed at it. and installed ubuntu.
[00:46] <tumbleweed05> i'm not a newb at linux. but it's been a few years.
[00:46] <tumbleweed05> install went fine.
[00:46] <K4k> nemilar and prince_jammys either of you got any ideas on that log file?
[00:46] <tumbleweed05> used it for about a week when it happened.
[00:46] <pike_> tumbleweed05: i think youll be pleasantly suprised. just dont give up alot to learn
[00:46] <Dr_willis> well bbl
[00:46] <danbhfive> !info mpc123 | blubb0r maybe this will satisfy you, I just found it randomly
[00:46] <ubotu> blubb0r maybe this will satisfy you, i just found it randomly: mpc123 (source: mpc123): Command-line Musepack audio player. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-1 (gutsy), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[00:47] <tumbleweed05> i'm gonna try the livecd. and if it can install just do a reinstall of the OS.
[00:47] <prince_jammys> K4k: googling, still a problem with .Xauthority
[00:47] <sampoo> anyone help me with basics on how to re-wrap a kernal to enable a touchscreen on an LG tablet
[00:47] <sampoo> ?
[00:47] <Jangari> although, tumbleweed05...
[00:47] <moumny> Hi everyone, Which software is the best vlc/mplayer deluge/transmission/bitorrent???
[00:47] <K4k> prince_jammys, yea that's all I have found as well
[00:47] <tumbleweed05> whats that?
[00:47] <quittt> how do I use festival?
[00:47] <tumbleweed05> for ubuntu?
[00:47] <siriusnova> ok so now that I know i can't access an iTunes shared library
[00:47] <tumbleweed05> moubny.
[00:47] <Jangari> if the bios isn't loading then no matter how you install, it won't boot, right?
[00:47] <Lunar_Lamp> !best
[00:47] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[00:47] <sampoo> yes, gutsy gibbon
[00:47] <tumbleweed05> yes.
[00:47] <moumny> yes tumbleweed05
[00:48] <siriusnova> is there any way for me to import an itunes xml file in Linux
[00:48] <Jangari> in fact, without bios it shouldn't even boot the cd
[00:48] <siriusnova> via samba
[00:48] <tumbleweed05> transmission for bittorrent
[00:48] <pike_> quittt: /join #ubuntu-offtopic maybe a number of people there use it i have not
[00:48] <tumbleweed05> true.
[00:48] <Jangari> so that should be a good test, tumbleweed05
[00:48] <tumbleweed05> but i'm gonna give it a shot. if it's the hard drive i'm gonna be pissed.
[00:48] <Jangari> yeah, do it
[00:48] <quittt> it is not offtopic, since it is part of Ubuntu
[00:49] <K4k> prince_jammys, I just noticed this line on the second to last line "(II) Configured Mouse: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded" so the mouse should work?
[00:49] <kitche> tumbleweed05: it's probably more then the hard drive
[00:49] <Jangari> well, if it's the hard drive, it's more easily replaceable than the motherboard
[00:49] <tumbleweed05> what else do you think?
[00:49] <Jangari> mb
[00:49] <tumbleweed05> ya. if it's the motherboard then i might as well get a new comp.
[00:49] <tumbleweed05> macbook prolly.
[00:49] <tumbleweed05> and dual boot ubuntu on that also :)
[00:49] <prince_jammys> K4k: i guess, there's a couple of errors i saw -- one involving DRI .  But the .Xauth business is a problem
[00:50] <pike_> quittt: i know its ontoppic i just dont know the answer and a few in there use it :)
[00:50] <tanner> how can you setup ubuntu to automount eSATA drives?
[00:50] <Jangari> or you could try reinstalling bios
[00:50] <prince_jammys> K4k:
[00:50] <prince_jammys> K4k: does root own that file still?
[00:50] <mad_max02> hello
[00:50] <tumbleweed05> ya. need to find it though.
[00:50] <Helvasca> wheres the SERVER list for software sources stored?
[00:50] <K4k> no I'm the owner and the group for it
[00:50] <K4k> prince_jammys,
[00:50] <DIL_> power source sb checked first
[00:50] <Jangari> dual boot ubuntu and os 10.5 on a macbook would be nice
[00:50] <sampoo> hello madmax
[00:50] <Jangari> except for the whole apple thing
[00:51] <tumbleweed05> lol shut up jangari.
[00:51] <Jangari> it should be easy enough to reinstall the bios, because that sounds like the issue, look into that
[00:51] <tumbleweed05> i'm using a mac mini now.
[00:51] <Jangari> sorry, but apple sh|ts me
[00:51] <tumbleweed05> k i will.
[00:51] <mad_max02> guys can you help me with something. I installed gdesklets but didnt like them and uninstalled, after reboot I can only see my icons/launchers on desktop like iconname.desktop and the open text editor when I click on them
[00:51] <tumbleweed05> lol.
[00:51] <Jangari> not more than sony though ;)
[00:52] <mad_max02> sampoo, hello. sorry I was typing :D
[00:52] <prince_jammys> K4k: does root still own the file?
[00:52] <K4k> prince_jammys, no I own it completely
[00:52] <Jangari> proprietary software i can handle, sometimes, proprietary hardware though, man...
[00:52] <Helvasca> wheres the SERVER list for software sources stored?
[00:52] <sega01> i am working on an ipv6 vpn for privacy, security, free speech, and wanted to verify that the most commonly used distribution can connect. http://eleuther.net/ if you are interested. i really need to verify that ubuntu can connect without problems
[00:52] <prince_jammys> K4k: is it rwxrwxrwx?
[00:52] <kitche> Helvasca: /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:53] <mad_max02> anyone ?
[00:53] <K4k> prince_jammys, no it's -rw-------
[00:53] <prince_jammys> K4k: sudo chmod 777 .Xauthority  <-- and try again
[00:53] <illriginal> thank you very much pike_ conclusion is, FireFTP is not made for Linux lol... best to be used with Windows. gFTP works like a champ!
[00:53] <Jangari> gftp eh?
[00:53] <illriginal> thanks to you too prince_jammys :P
[00:54] <Jangari> might try that myself, not happy with fireftp
[00:54] <illriginal> yeah gFTP works nicely and quickly :)
[00:54] <prince_jammys> K4k: actually not necessary, mine is rw
[00:54] <Helvasca> kitche: Im looking for where the  list of mirrors is - ALL the possible servers
[00:54] <K4k> prince_jammys, still nothing, but I am getting the feeling that it's my vm that's messing up, not my install...I'll try this on actual hardware tonight maybe that will work
[00:54] <kitche> Helvasca: it's on the ubuntu website I believe
[00:55] <K4k> Helvasca, there are a bunch in there that are commented out, but I recommend googling for sources.list generator and you will find what you're looking
[00:55] <prince_jammys> K4k : sorry, though it wont affect anything.... to change it back:   sudo chmod 600 .Xauthority   <-- permissions were correct, just checked
[00:55] <asdrubal> anyone here use dkms
[00:55] <asdrubal> ?
[00:55] <asdrubal> I need help with "dkms"
[00:55] <danbhfive> !mirrors | Helvasca
[00:55] <ubotu> Helvasca: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Gutsy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[00:55] <Helvasca> K4k: I want to add a server to the list!
[00:55] <asdrubal> I want to compile lirc, but it requires dkms... so I have no idea how to do this
[00:56] <sampoo> is there linux online course you can take, cos i'm totally lost!
[00:56] <asdrubal> dkms is a dell product
[00:57] <asdrubal> that makes perfect sense
[00:57] <mad_max02> lol
[00:57] <asdrubal> why is ubuntu using dell crap?
[00:57] <sampoo> on how to use the terminal window for instance?
[00:57] <mad_max02> I actually resolved my problem :D
[00:57] <K4k> prince_jammys, thanks so much for all your help, I'll be back on later tonight and let you know if I keep having the issue on actual hardware. I'm off work now though so I'm leaving
[00:57] <celi0us> sampoo: read. search google
[00:57] <Helvasca> danbhfive: I want to add a mirror to the list
[00:57] <prince_jammys> K4k: ok -- we'll get to the bottom of it
[00:57] <sampoo> i tried that, but dont understand celi0us
[00:58] <mad_max02> omg I'm in love with linux
[00:58] <Helvasca> mad_max02: :)
[00:58] <K4k> prince_jammys, I hope so, I would really love to make this work. I'm trying to make an absolute minimalistic ubuntu installation with icewm and if it works it will have a < 200MB footprint and use less then 100MB of RAM for a full install
[00:58] <pike_> ubotu: tell mad_max02 about love
[00:58] <danbhfive> Helvasca: scroll to the bottom of the page
[00:58] <mad_max02> I'm working in IT for about 12 years
[00:58] <mad_max02> and I'm with pcs from 1989
[00:58] <mad_max02> but I never felt so good with OS
[00:59] <sampoo> i think i need to phone a friend..bye all
[00:59] <DIL_> sampoo; this is ubuntu however the novell site has two books (pdf) that is pretty comprehensive of course it is geared towards novell but is good for learning linux (IMHO)
[00:59] <mad_max02> endless possibilities
[00:59] <Jangari> can i configure nautilus to show certain field in the list view?
[00:59] <sampoo> wow thx dil
[00:59] <icesword> hi
[00:59] <mad_max02> Jangari, you mean certain folders ?
[01:00] <mad_max02> icesword, hiya
[01:00] <asdrubal> sudo dkms add –m lirc –v 0.8.3~pre1
[01:00] <asdrubal> Error! Invalid number of arguments passed.
[01:00] <asdrubal> Usage: add -m <module> -v <module-version>
[01:00] <asdrubal> What the hell
[01:00] <icesword> am i in ubuntu
[01:00] <icesword> !
[01:00] <mad_max02> icesword, what do you mean ?
[01:00] <asdrubal> oh crap!
[01:00] <asdrubal> wrong dash caracter
[01:00] <Scunizi> What represents a wild card in terminal?
[01:00] <mad_max02> loooool
[01:00] <Helvasca> danbhfive: this ? If you set up a new mirror, please add it to this page and send contact information to <NOSPAM mirrors AT ubuntu DOT com>.
[01:00] <icesword> i think i am in ubuntu not sure
[01:01] <icesword> !me
[01:01] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:01] <mad_max02> icesword, what do you mean in ubuntu ?
[01:01] <zzza> can someone running gutsy do a "apt-cache search vimdiff". I think I might be missing a sources.list url
[01:01] <mad_max02> ubotu u rule :D
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about u rule :d - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <mad_max02> ahaha
[01:01] <icesword> i am uusing a new irc client ,
[01:01] <mad_max02> bots
[01:01] <icesword> so not sure
[01:02] <Jangari> s'alright, mad_max02, i meant 'visible columns', but i've found you can only show a small set
[01:02] <Jangari> which kind of irritates me, i want to show audio properties for some folders
[01:02] <mad_max02> that I dont know
[01:02] <mad_max02> maybe u can set something like that
[01:02] <mad_max02> ask the mighty google
[01:02] <adrian> whats up
[01:03] <rxsa> gosh, i really read the tuxfiles for ¼ mount and /fstab but i still have no clue at all how to mount my vfat devie on start-up, am i so dumb?
[01:03] <warriorforgod> Hey adrian
[01:04] <adrian> ahh lol
[01:04] <icesword> mad_max02where are u
[01:04] <harveyd> I have set up my laptop to share certain folders, given my desktop hostname to be allowed access, when I go to network:/// on my desktop, i see USERNAME-LAPTO
[01:04] <nemilar> Hmm... do you think my mom would be able to use Xubuntu?
[01:04] <prince_jammys> rxsa: want help?
[01:04] <icesword> heehe
[01:04] <rxsa> yes plaese!
[01:04] <harveyd> where my hostname on the laptop is username-laptop
[01:04] <mjw-> nemilar depends on how many bad windows habits she has to unlearn
[01:04] <prince_jammys> rxsa can't mount the partition?
[01:04] <harveyd> when i click on the icon nothing is shown
[01:05] <nemilar> lol, mjw- ... basically I would just be showing her, "this is where you click to launch the internet" and "this is where you click to edit a file"
[01:05] <harveyd> even if I correct it
[01:05] <rxsa> its no problem to mount the partition via a little widget but i want my vfat partition to mount imideatily after start-up
[01:06] <prince_jammys> rxsa: is it in fstab?
[01:06] <chrisn> hi
[01:06] <rxsa> i cant find it there#
[01:06] <Picachoo> is there a need for speed game in linux. or alternative?
[01:06] <ari_stress> morning all :D
[01:06] <rxsa> wait a second, plz
[01:06] <mjw-> nemilar then she should be fine...just make sure you install the software she needs. xubuntu is, in many ways, simpler than xp and certainly simpler than vista
[01:06] <danbhfive> Helvasca: yeah, worth a shot, I don't know anything myself, but I would email that address if you have further questions
[01:06] <prince_jammys> rxsa: sudo fdisk -l <---- and the line that says "VFAT
[01:06] <chrisn> I am having a really weird problem
[01:06] <prince_jammys> rxsa: don't pastebin, you can just paste that single line here
[01:07] <nemilar> mjw-: yeah, hmm... it's just that her machine is too slow to even run win2k :/
[01:07] <chrisn> Flash is making my computer crash
[01:07] <Juan> how can i record my desktop audio
[01:07] <chrisn> I cant figure out how to fix it
[01:07] <Jangari> whatsort of flash do you have, chrisn?
[01:07] <chrisn> I am not sure,
[01:07] <mjw-> nemilar ram is the most important consideration, how much does she have?
[01:07] <prince_jammys> rxsa: type prin <tab> before your messages to prefix my name to the messages, so i can find them
[01:08] <chrisn> but when pages like gmail or youtube are opened I have to do a hard reset
[01:08] <harveyd> ok, ill ask a simpler question, I have a laptop and a desktop computer, both connected to the same router, whats the easiest way to get files from my laptop to my desktop
[01:08] <nemilar> mjw-: haha, 64M of PC100 so it's nothin'   Really she just needs a new machine
 like that?
[01:08] <sean> anybody know a "vista DVD maker" substitute for ubuntu???
[01:08] <rxsa> fuck it
[01:09] <frangel> ubuntu-es link  plz
[01:09] <nemilar> !language | rxsa
[01:09] <ubotu> rxsa: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[01:09] <rxsa> prin <tab> try?!
[01:09] <prince_jammys> rxsa: begin typing my name,but press tab after a few letters and it will autocomplete
[01:09] <rxsa> i'm sorry
[01:09] <nemilar> np
[01:09] <mjw-> mjw- yeah no ubuntu distribution is going to be good there
[01:09] <Jangari> sean, "apt-cache search dvd burn"
[01:09] <chrisn> I have tried searching google but none of the steps have worked
[01:09] <nemilar> mjw-: except fluxbuntu ;)  but that's way beyond her abilities
[01:09] <rxsa> okay
[01:09] <prince_jammys> rxsa: otherwise its hard for me to spot your message
[01:09] <mjw-> nemilar that was for you...and it most certainly is overdue for an upgrade. 10 years is old enough for any computer. :P
[01:10] <harveyd> can anyone even point me in the right direction?
[01:10] <rxsa> prince_jammys: its the device /dev/hda2/
[01:10] <sean> ok Jangari thanks
[01:10] <nemilar> mjw-: that's just it though.. she doesn't understand that... I told her that it was 7 years old, and she didn't understand how it was possible that it could be outdated
[01:10] <Che-Anarc> I got phyton installed but when I do > python it doesnt do anything... how to run a .py script?
[01:10] <prince_jammys> rxsa: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab  <--- type this, it should open fstab in a window
[01:11] <rxsa> prince_jammys: was i right this time? *g*
[01:11] <danbhfive> harveyd: please stand by
[01:11] <umdoistres> hi, wich plugin i need to watch youtube videos ?, cause they dont loading right...
[01:11] <prince_jammys> rxsa: yeah that's what i wanted to know, the device
[01:11] <danbhfive> umdoistres: sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-nonfree
[01:11] <Jangari> umdoistres: "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[01:12] <rxsa> prince_jammys: okay done
[01:12] <icesword> i
[01:12] <prince_jammys> rxsa there is no line there with that device right?
[01:12] <rxsa> prince_jammys: right
[01:13] <Jangari> probably good to pastebin the fstab, rxsa
[01:13] <danbhfive> harveyd: try this http://www.europe.eclipse.co.uk/Ubuntu/Ubuntu-on-win-network.htm
[01:13] <rxsa> prince_jammys: # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[01:13] <rxsa> #
[01:13] <rxsa> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[01:13] <rxsa> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[01:13] <rxsa> # /dev/hda3
[01:13] <mjw-> nemilar man, if you were near to me, I'd let you cart off an athlon 900 with 512M for free for $20. lol.
[01:13] <FloodBot2> rxsa: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:13] <rxsa> UUID=0152a533-ec2c-4ec8-a92d-6cb62a990a19 /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[01:13] <icesword> haha]]
[01:13] <prince_jammys> prince_jammys: did you make a folder where you want this partition to be mounted?
[01:14] <danbhfive> lol @ prince_jammys
[01:14] <Jangari> talking to yourself again?
[01:14] <_Oz_> I'm in #windows trying to explain to a few gomers why Vista is such a terrible piece of software.  They're not very good at paying attention.
[01:14] <prince_jammys> danbhfive: why
[01:14] <quittt> how do I make stardict read?
[01:14] <Picachoo> what are the ways to run windows apps. some i know are wine (app layer), virtualbox(virtualisation)..    can you please tell me what are ways. and what are faster and what are slower accordingly?
[01:14] <danbhfive> prince_jammys: well, it looks like you are talking to yourself
[01:14] <christos> i've freshly installed Ubuntu 64-bit. CDs and USB drives aren't automatically mounting. why might this be?
[01:14] <warriorforgod> _Oz_: have fun explaining that
[01:14] <rxsa> prince_jammys: normally its mnted /media/STORE (its now mounted as well, b.t.w.)
[01:14] <harveyd> danbhfive: thanks
[01:15] <prince_jammys> rxsa did you make a folder where you want the partition to be mounted?
[01:15] <prince_jammys> danbhfive: oops
[01:15] <quittt> !stardict
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stardict - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <prince_jammys> rxsa: ok
[01:15] <harveyd> lol
[01:15] <umdoistres> oh.. the flash is bugging everything! almoust every sites that need flash plugin are incorrect, you know ? how i repair this ?
[01:15] <speeddemon8803> !flash
[01:16] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[01:16] <harveyd> I just needed to change "unix nextwork" to windows network
[01:16] <prince_jammys> rxsa: do you care what users have access to the partition?
[01:16] <harveyd> then is worked fine
[01:16] <rxsa> prince_jammys: im okay with /media/STORE (default folder) but i have to choose a new one, i create one
[01:16] <rxsa> prince_jammys: no i dont
[01:16] <sangprabo> nemilar: I've downloaded it, and it works! Thank you very much... :)
[01:16] <prince_jammys> rxsa you don't have to make a new folder - if you are, tell me the name
[01:17] <sangprabo> nemilar: May be only md5sum problem..
[01:17] <sangprabo> lol
[01:17] <rxsa> prince_jammys: im not, ill use the default
[01:17] <Dtortot> Hi
[01:17] <mjw-> umdoistres  follow the link ubotu gave you and also make sure you don't have gnash installed... sudo apt-get remove gnash
[01:17] <prince_jammys> rxsa one more thing, in a terminal:      echo $UID
[01:18] <frijolie> how do you partition a /home directory?
[01:18] <Darkmystere> Is there a way to have Madwifi-ng snapshots automaicly downloaded to a dir? starting at a certain date
[01:18] <Dtortot> I am in need of some advice/help
[01:18] <umdoistres> mjw-: i have gnash installed, thats the problem
[01:18] <rxsa> prince_jammys: nothing happens
[01:18] <Dtortot> frijolie: are you using xp or vista?
[01:18] <mjw-> umdoistres then uninstall it using the command i gave you. make sure you close your web browser(s) too and restart them
[01:19] <prince_jammys> rxsa: echo $UID
[01:19] <danbhfive> frijolie: are you running gutsy right now?
[01:19] <frijolie> Dtortot: it's not going to be a dual boot...solely Ubuntu on a 200GB HDD
[01:19] <prince_jammys> rxsa: in a new terminal
[01:19] <Photocopy> How can I hide icons from the desktop?
[01:19] <Juan> how can i record my desktop audio? trying with sound recorder but its silent
[01:19] <frijolie> not running anything, well I'm going to wipe Vista off a spankin new laptop and replace it with Gutsy
[01:19] <danbhfive> frijolie: do you know how to partition, at least in general?
[01:19] <rxsa> prince_jammys: it says "1000"
[01:20] <tanner> what do i have to do for changes to /etc/fstab to take effect
[01:20] <prince_jammys> rxsa ok paste the following line into your fstab
[01:20] <danbhfive> tanner: reboot, or sudo mount -a
[01:20] <rxsa> prince_jammys: kay
[01:20] <prince_jammys> rxsa: /dev/hda2       /media/STORE      vfat    uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=000     0       0
[01:20] <umdoistres> oh, the problem is gone ! thank you very much !
[01:20] <frijolie> danbhfive: yeah, I know that I want to have 10GB for / (root), 2GB for /swap, and the rest of the HDD for /home
[01:21] <Dtortot> I keep trying to install ubuntu as dual boot I have the partitions ready and all and the somewhere around 50% of the installation I get a message that says that I am missing one file and that the installation had to be stopped, I dunno what file that is but I have tried with 3 different dls of Ubuntu from 3 different mirrors in North America and they all failed
[01:21] <rxsa> prince_jammys: i have to retype it, right?! XD okay, geez :)
[01:21] <Photocopy> How can I remove icons from my desktop please?
[01:21] <prince_jammys> rxsa: and save: make sure there is one BLANK line at the end of the file, by hitting enter
[01:21] <Jangari> frijolie: make it 20 for root, depending on the overall size of your hdd
[01:21] <danbhfive> frijolie: then during the setup, just do that.  You have to set the mount points, so you will have to set the 10gb as / and just set the larger one as /home
[01:21] <prince_jammys> rxsa: cut and paste. don't retype
[01:21] <frijolie> Jangari: 20GB for / ?
[01:21] <Jangari> i reckon
[01:22] <Photocopy> frijolie: To be safe, 20g sounds right
[01:22] <Jangari> i have 20 each overall for entire ubuntu and xp pro, the rest is data, 120GB
[01:22] <danbhfive> frijolie: the swap just needs to be partitioned as swap, no need to set a mount point for that
[01:22] <adamb> Ok I have a problem, I cant open more then 2 firefox browsers, it just hangs when i open up the 3rd one. Anyone have an idea on this issue?
[01:22] <Dtortot> any idea which file I'm missing
[01:22] <_Oz_> dtortot: I'd expect an error on the disc
[01:22] <tanner> danbhfive: what do i have to add to fstab so that a device mounts rw and what not? (this is an external eSATA drive)
[01:22] <rxsa> prince_jammys: yeah, its a textfile, not the terminal, though! (D'OH!)
[01:22] <Photocopy> =(
[01:22] <frijolie> danbhfive: last time I did it, afterwards by right-clicking on the drive in nautilus and choosing properties it didn't display the correct size
[01:22] <K4k> prince_jammys, hey I'm back and on real hardware lol
[01:22] <Jangari> i mean, i've only used a small portion of that on ubuntu, but imagine if you ran out of space on / to install some new apps?
[01:22] <Dtortot> Oz: I have tried 3 different discs burned at different speeds and nothing
[01:22] <frijolie> danbhfive: for my /home directory..it only showed something like 4GB when it should have been 120GB
[01:23] <prince_jammys> rxsa: select it, paste it, make sure there is one blank line at the bottom of the file and save it
[01:23] <silvio> i
[01:23] <_Oz_> dtortot: it's gotta be a disc problem
[01:23] <_Oz_> dtortot: all by the same burner?
[01:23] <_Oz_> it's either the drive or the disc
[01:23] <frijolie> Photocopy: 20GB is a lot...but I do have a 200GB HDD
[01:23] <danbhfive> frijolie: well, that's clearly wrong, do you already have ubuntu installed?  if there is a last time?
[01:23] <adamb> Ok I have a problem, I cant open more then 2 firefox browsers, it just hangs when i open up the 3rd one. Anyone have an idea on this issue?
[01:23] <rxsa> prince_jammys: thank you a lot, ill reboot now and try... i'm back in a few minutes!
[01:23] <thinman1189> how do I stop privoxy from starting on startup?
[01:23] <Dtortot> two by the same burner and one by a different one
[01:23] <Photocopy> frijolie: Not my laptop, but thats what i'd do...
[01:23] <danbhfive> tanner: im sorry, I don't really know
[01:23] <Dtortot> but I have burned lots of things with both and they all work fine
[01:23] <prince_jammys> rxsa try this
[01:23] <frijolie> danbhfive: no it's not installed yet...I'm at the part where I partition the drive now...
[01:23] <Jangari> damn, 200GB is fine, opt for a larger / than just 10GB
[01:24] <Photocopy> frijolie: Then again, im a retard with a 7g swap on a 80g drive... rofl
[01:24] <rxsa> prince_jammys: huh?
[01:24] <prince_jammys> rxsa actually yeah reboot, since thats what you want to test, sorry
[01:24] <frijolie> Photocopy: we'll comprimise and I'll say 15GB for root
[01:24] <Photocopy> frijolie: Better safe than sorry?
[01:24] <danbhfive> frijolie: well, I personally have no idea why that would happen, you should be able to just do it during the install
[01:24] <rxsa> prince_jammys: yeah thx
[01:24] <Photocopy> Seriously.... ugh
[01:25] <Photocopy> how can I hide all desktop icons?
[01:25] <frijolie> danbhfive: yeah I'm about to start creating the partitions..i was just clarifying that I did it right because that did seem weird last time I tried
[01:25] <Jangari> what's the descrepancy in size displayed after installation, frijolie?
[01:25] <icesword> prince_jammys:what program u use to edit .pdf on linux
[01:25] <tanner> anyone know what do i have to add to fstab so that a device mounts rw and what not? (this is an external eSATA drive)
[01:25] <frijolie> Jangari: yes it was on a previous install...
[01:25] <Dtortot> does any one for sure of a mirror where I can dl ubuntu from that will work 100% on installation
[01:25] <Jangari> no, frijolie, how big was the descrepancy?
[01:25] <DIL_> left click icon and press del button
[01:25] <danbhfive> Jangari: 116gigs
[01:25] <prince_jammys> icesword: have never done it... i only view pdf, have never edit it. i know openoffice can export to pdf but thats about all i know
[01:25] <Dtortot> or is there a way to find out which file I am missing and maybe adding it to my existing iso
[01:26] <Juan> how can i record my desktop audio? trying with sound recorder but its silent
[01:26] <frijolie> Jangari: From what I remember, I made the /home partition somewhere around 120GB and it was only showing something like 4GB of free space
[01:26] <icesword> prince_jammys:i see
[01:26] <Jangari> mm, righto
[01:26] <meoblast001> hello..... im trying to get a network adapter to work... a D-Link WUA-2340... i used ndiswrapper and installed NetA5AGU.inf..... and it reports that the driver is installed, but the network card doesnt have any networks in the network applet, nor does it give the option to enable wireless internet..... how do i fix this?
[01:26] <thinman1189> how do I stop privoxy from starting on startup?
[01:27] <loquitus_of_borg> is there a graphical app for Ubuntu Linux I can install that shows what processes are using each file on the system? or which files each process running is using?
[01:27] <prince_jammys> frijolie: thats a big house you have
[01:27] <K4k> what is the file that specifies desktop background in icewm?
[01:27] <Gary_inNYC> hi, i have 2 hds, the second one partitioned as /home 185GB, and /swap 2GB.  the first hd is not partitioned and / is 74GB.  is there a more cost effective way of partitioning my drives?  my monstrous 74GB / partition sounds a bit excessive
[01:27] <Gary_inNYC> i have 1.5GB of ram
[01:27] <prince_jammys> K4k: the problem was fixed?
[01:27] <tudon> omg this channel has more than 1000 users
[01:27] <frijolie> prince_jammys: Yes, this new HDD is 200GB on a laptop!
[01:27] <Darkmystere> I cant use my Router with Wep on Ubuntu everytime i put in key a few mins later it comes back asking again..
[01:28] <K4k> prince_jammys, no I'm on the "bloated" system that was my first try
[01:28] <Photocopy> My partition table is retarded... Gary_inNYC thats not horrible.
[01:28] <K4k> prince_jammys, I originally tried stripping a standard install and it works well, but it's still over 2GB installed
[01:28] <K4k> way more then I want
[01:29] <cferriby> does anyone know how to make my sound not so quiet. i reinstalled an updates a few weeks ago but the sound has decreasd in volume so that i can bary hear it any fixes??
[01:29] <meoblast001> what does "neta5agu : invalid driver!" mean?
[01:29] <NigelS_> Gary_inNYC: it is pretty unlikely that you'll need that much for / yes
[01:29] <rxsa> prince_jammys: yeah thank you so so so so so so so so so so much. it works! nice!
[01:29] <Gary_inNYC> ic, what should i do to further divide my first drive?
[01:29] <prince_jammys> rxsa np
[01:29] <Photocopy> prince_jammys: quick one... how do i hide all desktop icons?
[01:30] <prince_jammys> Photocopy: no idea
[01:30] <Photocopy> aww
[01:30] <Juan> how can i record my desktop audio? trying with sound recorder but its silent
[01:30] <cferriby> ??? idk
[01:30] <K4k> Photocopy, type "gconf-editor"
[01:30] <K4k> it's in there
[01:30] <NigelS_> Gary_inNYC: well just dont have such a big / drive, create another partition and adjoin it to the fs tree with mount
[01:30] <frijolie> Ok, it says (the installer/partitioner) I have 182642MB "free space" how do I allocate/partition that to my /home directory?
[01:30] <Photocopy> K4k: I dont know how to use this program.. =S i hope i dont blow it up
[01:31] <prince_jammys> Photocopy: i use KDE - so it wouldnt apply
[01:31] <frijolie> just make that a partition whose mount point is /home?
[01:31] <K4k> Photocopy, open that program and do the following...
[01:31] <Gary_inNYC> i understand that / doesn't need to be that big, but i'm not sure which partitions i should create.  /usr ?  or a /var?
[01:31] <rxsa> prince_jammys: nice to see that one could even be helped on friday night 2:30 am. XD I'll sure come back later to get on the experts nerves again. *g* gn8
[01:31] <Photocopy> prince_Jammys: Understood, im used to xfce so there we have it.. lol
[01:31] <chaosrl> hello, everyone, i'm in a bit of a fix. in the last linux-headers update, something happened with my computer and i can no longer save or print things from certain applications. doing some digging around, i believe the problem lies in libc-dev or libc (libc.so.6 is causing the problem) does anyone know how to either rollback the linux-headers update or fix libc?
[01:32] <Juan> how can i record my desktop audio? trying with sound recorder but its silent
[01:32] <cferriby> anyone know how to fix sound issue being mega quiet?
[01:32] <Photocopy> K4k: Listening
[01:32] <K4k> trying to find it lol
[01:32] <thinman1189> how do I stop privoxy from starting on startup?
[01:32] <NigelS_> Gary_inNYC: it doesn't need to be any of those - sure you could mount /usr seperately but you probably have no need for doing so - just use any extra space for your personal files, audio, films etc, call it whatever you want
[01:32] <rxsa> !help
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[01:32] <K4k> it's either "apps > nautilus" ...something
[01:32] <K4k> Photocopy,
[01:32] <Photocopy> k
[01:32] <frijolie> or can I just leave it as "free space"?
[01:32] <Gary_inNYC> oh ic, so i should set up a volume partition between both drives for /home right?
[01:33] <Photocopy> K4k: I dont see anything like that... =S
[01:33] <K4k> Photocopy, apps > nautilus > and maybe desktop?
[01:33] <Gary_inNYC> im asking this because i havent used ubuntu long enough to understand its long term usage in terms of space allocation
[01:34] <Photocopy> K4k: Theres no "apps>nautilus"
[01:34] <K4k> Photocopy, then I don't know, there should be
[01:34] <Photocopy> K4k: H/o I got it
[01:34] <squishy> hey im having some problems playing sound in streaming videos
[01:34] <Photocopy> K4k: Thanks
[01:35] <NigelS_> Gary_inNYC: if you want to - the point here is that the unix model of a filesystem differs from the model that windows inherited from cp/m - that is to say that by having all files exist in essentially one large namespace we don't need to care about which bit of ferro-magnetic material it is stored on. All programs you install will place files in /usr/bin /tmp /etc so you do need to think about the greatest extent that they will take up
[01:35] <squishy> ok some videos have perfect sound its just others that dont, any ideas??
[01:35] <NigelS_> Gary_inNYC: having said that many of the items that take up the most space on windows are games and many linux users will install those into their home dir - i.e. they are not provided as packages which will use the standard layout of a linux system
[01:35] <achandrashekar> hello. I have a postfix box that when you connect from the internal network allows you to telnet on port 25. Id like to change that, such that no-one can send any message. Any ideas?
[01:36] <rodolfo> hi guys; I am trying to install StepMania from source but I keep getting this error msg "configure: error: No OpenGL library could be found." when I enter the ./configure command. Any idea of what it can be?
[01:36] <chaosrl> is there any way to reinstall libc6? i can't seem to do it through aptitude
[01:36] <super_rad> hi, i've got a few problems with xubuntu. it starts without any panels, i can start the panels by running xfce4-panel in the terminal but also settings manager, window manager settings or any of those wont open
[01:36] <alothafagina> any idea why my 2nd monitor isn't working on ubuntu?
[01:36] <alothafagina> do I need to do special stuff?
[01:37] <super_rad> everything looks really ugly aswell, when i click settings manager everything changes and looks nice then goes back to how it looked before and nothing opens
[01:37] <Drk_Guy> Hi
[01:37] <frijolie> anyone?
[01:37] <icesword> hi
[01:37] <Drk_Guy> Hi
[01:38] <thinman1189> how do I stop privoxy from starting on startup?
[01:38] <Drk_Guy> Is there any workaround for framebuffer console problem at start-up?
[01:38] <Gary_inNYC> kk, thx NigelS
[01:38] <tanner> whats the fstab option so that when i mount my drive my user can read/write to it?
[01:38] <adamb> Ok I have a problem, I cant open more then 2 firefox browsers, it just hangs when i open up the 3rd one. Anyone have an idea on this issue?
[01:38] <frijolie> danbhfive?
[01:38] <Cyanide1> what kinda of iso burner can i get for ubuntu
[01:38] <Cyanide1> kind*
[01:38] <Drk_Guy> nerolinux
[01:38] <Drk_Guy> maybe
[01:38] <prince_jammys> tanner: one way is with umask -- if you paste the line here i will show you
[01:39] <doremus> K3b?
[01:39] <Drk_Guy> or gnome baker
[01:39] <tudon> k3b
[01:39] <icesword> tanner:right click on the fdriver ion
[01:39] <tudon> what else? :P
[01:39] <icesword> tune it uself
[01:39] <NigelS_> Cyanide1: loads, nautilus cd burner will allow right click burning; k3b has lots of features
[01:39] <tanner> prince_jammys: UUID=ec8bf9ba-764a-4c69-bca2-54de08f282d5 /media/XFS_eSATA_Backup 	xfs 	users,defaults	0 	0
[01:40] <prince_jammys> tanner only you can write?
[01:40] <tanner> prince_jammys: currently only root can write to it
[01:40] <Cyanide1> Nigels where do i find that
[01:40] <danbhfive> frijolie: hey there, im here
[01:41] <anurag> How can i change desktop icon font clolor?
[01:41] <anurag> i want to make it black
[01:41] <Cyanide1> NigelS_: where can i find that
[01:41] <prince_jammys> tantanner: UUID=ec8bf9ba-764a-4c69-bca2-54de08f282d5 /media/XFS_eSATA_Backup xfs users,umask=027  0 0      <---and only you can right, group users can read-write, and everyone else can't do anything
[01:42] <prince_jammys> tanner: *write
[01:42] <frijolie> danbhfive: sorry, you just seemed the most apt to help me...do I need to specify the remaining "free space" to ext3 and have /home as the mount point?
[01:42] <prince_jammys> tanner don't forget to back up the file if you change it
[01:42] <frijolie> danbhfive: or does the free space just become dynamically allocated to the rest of the OS if I leave it?
[01:42] <danbhfive> frijolie: yeah, that's what I would do
[01:42] <danbhfive> frijolie: no, you have to format it as ext3
[01:43] <frijolie> danbhfive: ahh...I didn't do that last time, maybe that was my problem
[01:43] <chaosrl> is there any way to install old versions of the linux-headers?
[01:43] <tanner> prince_jammys: perhaps another option, xfs does not understand the umask option
[01:43] <prince_jammys> tanner: says bad line?
[01:43] <frijolie> danbhfive: so partition it to /home or just leave it as free space? Sorry I don't totally understand UNIX filesystem yet
[01:43] <danbhfive> frijolie: yep, that would do it, partitioning is the one thing that an OS can't handle itself, it must be done during the install phase
[01:44] <tanner> prince_jammys: XFS: unknown mount option [umask].
[01:44] <nix_> how do i apply a theme in emerald? anyone?
[01:44] <danbhfive> frijolie: partition it as ext3
[01:44] <NigelS_> Cyanide1: the same place you can find everything else, in the repository - just use add/remove apps or synaptic to locate cd burning software and particular software
[01:44] <danbhfive> frijolie: then, set the mount point, to /home
[01:44] <prince_jammys> tanner mmm never have done it with xfs
[01:44] <logankoester> How can I determine what process has the soundcard locked?
[01:44] <frijolie> danbhfive: ok, I'll do that. Thanks...
[01:45] <mjw-> nix_ emerald-theme-manager
[01:45] <tanner> prince_jammys: any other solutions?
[01:45] <sean> could somebody tell me what the ubuntu symbols beside certain things in the synaptic package manager mean please???
[01:45] <prince_jammys> tanner: one more try:::  UUID=ec8bf9ba-764a-4c69-bca2-54de08f282d5 /media/XFS_eSATA_Backup xfs uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=027 0 0
[01:45] <nix_> mjw: i have to install it?
[01:45] <tux> hi, i have problam about totem http://dpaste.com/35251
[01:45] <nix_> mjw: i have emerald, but when i click on a theme it dont apply?? wtf?
[01:45] <prince_jammys> tanner first  ---> echo $UID in a terminal and see if you are user 1000
[01:46] <Veeger1> logankoester: The sound link for troubleshooting covers getting multiple programs using the sound card use      /msg ubotu sound
[01:46] <NigelS_> sean: that they're ubuntu supported packages, part of the main ubuntu system as opposed to the community maintained ones
[01:46] <mjw-> nix_ it should be installed with the rest of compiz automatically
[01:46] <tanner> prince_jammys: now only root can mount it
[01:46] <logankoester> thanks Veeger1
[01:46] <Veeger1> np
[01:46] <danbhfive> frijolie: it might be that you actually do it all in one step, I don't remember.  I think you set it up to partition, then right click, and set the mount point somewhere
[01:46] <simmerz> is there a correct method for building ones own kernel from the ubuntu sources? I want to enable PAE on a desktop kernel
[01:46] <tanner> prince_jammys: adding users to the options i get unknown option uid :-\
[01:46] <nemo> Hey folks, you're probably busy what with the alpha release...
[01:46] <sean> ok NigelS_ thanks =)
[01:47] <Mushrooms> My list of problems on ubuntu just never seem to get smaller
[01:47] <NigelS_> prince_jammys: iirc, umask is not a valid option for XFS
[01:47] <prince_jammys> tanner ok obviously an xfs thing so i don't know, sorry ...
[01:47] <nemo> but, I was wondering. since the plugin dir has changed in ff 3.0 - do I just go ahead and copy the contents of /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox to the new dir, symlinks and all?
[01:47] <nix_> mjw-: its just not working. whered i go wrong?
[01:47] <nemo> or is there a more-correct method?
[01:47] <frijolie> danbhfive: yeah, I know how to physically partition the drive using the installer. I just wasn't sure which was the best configuration.
[01:47] <NigelS_> tanner: as root just give ownership of the drive to your user
[01:47] <Drk_Guy> nemo, there is a deb for 3.0b
[01:47] <mjw-> nix_ what happens when you run emerald-theme-manager
[01:47] <tanner> NigelS_: to the physical drive?
[01:47] <Drk_Guy>  nemo Dont worry
[01:48] <adrian> hey this adrian i deleted my bottom bar on the desktop the bottom panel how do I bring it back
[01:48] <NigelS_> tanner: or to a folder on it that you mount somewhere useful
[01:48] <danbhfive> frijolie: ok, good  :)
[01:48] <nemo> Drk_Guy: my mom had to be moved to hardy due to sound issues in gutsy - she wants her flash plugin back :)
[01:48] <adamb> Ok so just installed ubuntu, and I cant open more then 2 firefox browsers, the 3rd one just hangs and firefox browsers dont respond. Anyone have an idea?
[01:48] <Cyanide1> ok i need help i used the apt-get to get k3b and now i dont know where it is
[01:48] <Drk_Guy> O.O
[01:48] <nix_> mjw-: it opens up fine but when i add themes i can't apply them
[01:48] <nemo> Drk_Guy: I'm just hesitating to muck with package management by adjusting symlinks n stuff manually
[01:48] <tanner> NigelS_: what do you mean?
[01:48] <Drk_Guy>  nemo Not nice
[01:48] <nemo> Drk_Guy: what isn't nice? :)
[01:48] <Drk_Guy>  nemo, compile
[01:48] <nemo> hm?
[01:48] <adrian> does anyone know how to bring the bottom bar on the desktop back
[01:49] <Drk_Guy>  nemo Yeah, compile from source
[01:49] <Drk_Guy>  nemo And see what happens
[01:49] <nemo> Drk_Guy: ... compile... adobe flash? wha?
[01:49] <Cyanide1> anyone?
[01:49] <Veeger1> adrian: right click top bar and add a new one then pull it to the bottom of the screen
[01:49] <Drk_Guy>  nemo Werent you talking about FF 3.0 b
[01:49] <Drk_Guy> ???
[01:49] <nemo> um. ok. anyone else familiar with the new directory layout in latest hardy release?
[01:49] <Openglock> THERES OVER 1000 in here
[01:49] <nemo> Drk_Guy: yes, which has been released in hardy - it has a new plugin directory
[01:49] <nix_> anyone know why my emerald theme manager doesn't apply themes?
[01:49] <mjw-> nix_ odd...i'm back on my non-emerald box but clicking on a theme should apply it (assuming you're actually running emerald, of course)
[01:49] <nemo> Drk_Guy: I'd like to update the contents correctly.
[01:49] <Drk_Guy> Hmmmph...
[01:49] <adamb> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4272269 - I seem to have same problem, anyone know if  fix to this?
[01:50] <Veeger1> nemo: You should ask in #Ubuntu+1
[01:50] <Drk_Guy>  nemo, flash comes in a tar.bz2, extarct it and copy the .so file to the plugins folder
[01:50] <adrian> how do you bring the bottom bar back to the desktop
[01:50] <Drk_Guy> ...
[01:50] <Drk_Guy> wait
[01:50] <nemo> Veeger1: aight
[01:50] <Drk_Guy> ive got a better idea
[01:50] <adrian> does anyone know
[01:50] <nemo> Drk_Guy: I know how to do that stuff manually :)
[01:50] <Drk_Guy> go about:plugins
[01:50] <NigelS_> tanner: when its mounted change the rw permissions for the folder
[01:50] <nix_> mjw-: yea thats hoiw it worked on my other machine too. but not this one. i reinstalled emerald, its up to date but it still dont go
[01:50] <nemo> I'm just trying to stick within the package management
[01:50] <nemo> Drk_Guy: sounds like you don't know though. no worries.
[01:50] <Veeger1> adrian: I posted that to you a minute ago
[01:50] <corporal_clegg> hello, I want to make automatically shutdown the screen after 5 minutes of inattivity, but the gnome-powermanager pref, blocks me to 11 minutes.
[01:50] <nemo> I'll try #ubuntu+1
[01:50] <Drk_Guy> pkg mngmt, huh?
[01:51] <tanner> NigelS_: i did chmod a+rw and nothing still
[01:51] <simmerz> anyone? I tried building a kernel with make-kpkg kernel_image modules_image but the kernel won't boot and claims that it can't find /lib/modules/2.6.22.9 even though it exists
[01:51] <anurag> How can i change my desktop icon font color?
[01:51] <Mushrooms> I've been trying to get my graphire4 tablet working as of about 30 minutes ago, and i've been searching the ubuntu forums on how to do so, and came across "http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25151&highlight=graphire" this entry. MusicMetalAddict has advised a few procedures to fix this by modifying xorg.conf. I'm a bit scared to do this since last time I tried to do dual monitor with modifying xorg.conf I couldn't boot into 
[01:51] <Mushrooms> wondering if anyone could give me an opinion.
[01:52] <Cyr4x> hi
[01:52] <Cyr4x> i've got a big problem
[01:52] <adamb> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4272269 - I seem to have same problem, anyone know of a fix to this?
[01:52] <Cyanide1> ok i need help i used the apt-get to get k3b and now i dont know where it is
[01:52] <jay-oh-en> Cyr4x, what is it
[01:52] <Drk_Guy> How can one fix the framebuffer console problem?
[01:52] <o924> hello
[01:52] <Cyr4x> i was shrinking my home partition to make some free space for larger swap
[01:52] <Veeger1> Cyanide1: It should be in your pull down menus
[01:53] <tudon> what framebuffer console problem
[01:53] <Cyr4x> gparted on slax
[01:53] <Cyanide1> in apps?
[01:53] <anurag> Cyanide1: Under App-->Video and Sound
[01:53] <Cyr4x> but there was 4 mb space free
[01:53] <NigelS_> tanner: change ownership of the mount folder to your user - it should work as normal - there's no user ownership option for xfs that I'm aware of; normal permissions will work
[01:53] <Cyr4x> so i enlarged /home
[01:53] <Cyanide1> ok there it is thanks
[01:53] <Cyr4x> to add this 4 mb
[01:54] <Cyr4x> and after this operation gparted made an error
[01:54] <Cyr4x> and now it doesn't see /dev/hda6 (home)
[01:54] <Cyr4x> i can't lost all my documents and settings
[01:54] <emma>  /join #ubuntu-ops
[01:54] <tanner> NigelS_: yes but how do i do that?
[01:54] <Cyanide1> is there anything special i have to do in k3b to burn a iso
[01:55] <K4k> I have the nvidia legacy proprietary drivers installed but glxinfo says that glx is missing on 0:0 how do I enable direct rendering?
[01:55] <Cyr4x> system starts but there's simply no home partition
[01:55] <adrian> Veeger are you stil there
[01:55] <Cyr4x> can i get it back any way?
[01:55] <Veeger1> Cyr4x: Were you running live cd when you did this?
[01:55] <adrian> when i minimize things on the new panel it dosen't go there
[01:55] <Cyr4x> yes
[01:55] <Cyr4x> all unmounted
[01:55] <adrian> it disappers
[01:55] <anurag> Cyanide1: Well just right click the iso file and choose open with K3B i guess
[01:55] <Cyr4x> now system starts ok
[01:56] <anurag> Cyanide1: I usually use the default burn to CD option
[01:56] <Cyr4x> but gparted sees whole disk unallocated
[01:56] <Veeger1> adrian: You make a new panel and it disappears.. Under the other one?
[01:56] <norty> what is the command to login as another user through the terminal?
[01:56] <Cyr4x> partimage see / and swap partitions but no /home :(
[01:56] <NigelS_> tanner: the chown command, you'll need to be root
[01:56] <Drk_Guy> How can one fix the framebuffer console problem?
[01:56] <Cyr4x> fsck doesn;t help
[01:56] <adrian> no
[01:56] <kenade> norty: su
[01:57] <tanner> NigelS_: i've done that to the mount folder, however it doesnt do anything
[01:57] <adrian> when i have other apps up it when you minmize somthing it should go there correct but however its not going there
[01:57] <Cyr4x> i have to get back all my files they're important
[01:57] <Cyanide1> anurag: thanks
[01:57] <Drk_Guy> ...
[01:57] <Drk_Guy> :S
[01:57] <Veeger1> adrian: You need to add that feature to the taskbar..
[01:57] <NigelS_> tanner: unmount it then remount it - did you change owner while it was mounted?
[01:57] <adrian> so whats the feature called
[01:58] <warriorforgod> adrian: right click on the bottom panel and click add to panel.
[01:58] <Cyr4x> they probably phisycally exist on the disk, but there is no /home partition
[01:58] <warriorforgod> adrian: add window list and workspace switcher.  That should fix it.
[01:58] <Veeger1> adrian: WIndow selector?
[01:58] <K4k> what is the command line for the add/remove programs app
[01:58] <Veeger1> warriorforgod: thanks.. I knew it was one of those
[01:58] <warriorforgod> Veeger1: np.
[01:58] <Cyr4x> error occured just after the partition resizing
[01:59] <adrian> thanks
[01:59] <warriorforgod> adrian: np
[01:59] <Odd-rationale> K4k: aptitude
[01:59] <pocketdrummer> Is there a way to fix Flash things like YouTube? It doesn't work in firefox even though I have flash installed.
[01:59] <K4k> no, I mean what is the command to actually pull up that gui app
[01:59] <tanner> NigelS_: still nothing
[01:59] <Veeger1> !flashissues
[01:59] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation has been broken for some time. A fix has been released now, although it might not have yet reached all mirrors. If the update fails to install Flash, try « sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree ; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree »
[02:00] <Odd-rationale> K4k: sudo synaptic
[02:00] <MasterMel> is there a player for ubuntu wich plays winamp playlists?
[02:00] <K4k> Odd-rationale, is there a way to filter to see just what's install in synaptic? I couldn't find it
[02:00] <Mushrooms> Question:"Also, if you have already added lines to your XFree86/Xorg configuration file (XF86Config/XF86Config-4 or xorg.conf), you should comment them out and restart X. Since we'll be stepping through the entire process, we need X to ignore the tablet until we're ready. Otherwise, X will just get in the way." when it says "X" in this case, what does it refer to?
[02:00] <warriorforgod> adrian: did that fix the bottom bar?
[02:00] <Cyr4x> maybe i should do a new partition with the same file system without formatting it?
[02:00] <K4k> Odd-rationale, er...nvm found it
[02:00] <adrian> well it did but i do i move the icons like move them where i want them
[02:00] <Odd-rationale> K4k: k
[02:01] <adrian> how do you move the icons in other words
[02:01] <adrian> i tried click and drag but that dosen't
[02:01] <Jangari> can i stop links to mounted file systems in /media from appearing on the desktop?
[02:01] <Jangari> i like minimal desktops
[02:02] <Cyr4x> Jangari use ubuntu-tweak
[02:02] <Cyr4x> there you can turn off this option easy way
[02:02] <Jangari> thanks Cyr4x, i'll look into it
[02:02] <Veeger1> Jangari: yes gconf-editor  apps metacity  somewhere in there
[02:02] <prince_jammys> Mushrooms: X is the name of the server that powers your graphical session
[02:02] <Cyr4x> So, any solution to my problem?
[02:02] <Mushrooms> prince_jammys: ok. I understand. Thanks!
[02:03] <neolith2099> Any vbox users that figured out how to run a vm in window mode without the status and file bars?
[02:03] <prince_jammys> Mushrooms: it's a server because many machines could actually hook up to your computer and view what youre viewing
[02:03] <Veeger1> Cyr4x: In livecd what does sudo fdisk -l show
[02:04] <adrian> when the bottom bar is created how do you drag the icon over to the left instead of having it in the middle
[02:04] <pocketdrummer> Veeger1: thanks, that worked.
[02:04] <Odd-rationale> adrian: right-click --> move?
[02:05] <adrian> thanks
[02:05] <Mushrooms> prince_jammys: so does that mean anyone can see what i'm doing?
[02:05] <Odd-rationale> adrian: You might have to unlock first. And unlock everthing in the way...
[02:05] <Jangari> Veeger1: found it, it's in apps > nautilus > desktop > volumes visible
[02:05] <prince_jammys> Mushrooms: if you set it up that way -
[02:05] <MasterMel> is there a player for ubuntu wich plays winamp playlists?
[02:06] <Mushrooms> prince_jammys: yep, kinda like a remote desktop concept right?
[02:06] <prince_jammys> Mushrooms: it's powerful stuff -- as a normal, single user you only do a little bit of what it can do
[02:06] <adrian> no it works fine
[02:06] <adrian> i was albe to move it no problem
[02:06] <prince_jammys> Mushrooms: right
[02:07] <prince_jammys> Mushrooms: it allows multiple users to have a graphic session on one machine, either independent of each other, or connected
[02:08] <Veeger1> Jangari: great, sorry but I am not on my regular computer and didnt have my notes handy
[02:08] <Mushrooms> prince_jammys: I see, that's far more poweful than just a remote desktop instance. This isn't enabled by default I hope?
[02:08] <VistaDidItAgain> Does anyone have a good suggestion for a vista-related IRC channel?
[02:08] <prince_jammys> Mushrooms: no
[02:08] <Veeger1> pocketdrummer: great
[02:08] <Jangari> s'alright, you pointed me in the right direction
[02:09] <Jangari> #vista ?
[02:09] <prince_jammys> Mushrooms: well, you can log in as another user without losing your session by default -- but thats not a big deal
[02:10] <prince_jammys> Mushrooms: if you create another user account and switch user you'll see that you can switch over and then back, and X will be running a screensaver on the other account!
[02:10] <CyanideD> ok i need help i just burnt the iso for ubuntu 7.10 on to a dise i go to load from disk on boot and it brings me right back here why didnt it do anything
[02:10] <tdjacr|away> Is there a utility to check and repair ubuntu
[02:11] <tdjacr|away> KDE and Gnome both freeze up
[02:11] <Cyr4x> i'll try this
[02:11] <Mushrooms> prince_jammys: I see, I'll have a go at that later today then. It really does help to understand what all of these things are
[02:11] <CyanideD> !upgrade
[02:11] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:11] <Veeger1> tdjacr|away: Is that kde4 by chance?
[02:12] <tdjacr|away> Veeger1: It failed on GNOME so I tried it in KDE and both freeze
[02:12] <Veeger1> tdjacr|away: Understood, but that did not answer my question.. thanks...    Is that kde4 by chance?
[02:12] <CyanideD> can someone help me
[02:13] <Thedjatclubrock> Veeger1: It is the version from apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[02:13] <amenado> CyanideD-> what is a dise? can you clarify what you said?
[02:13] <Veeger1> CyanideD: Certainly, please just ask your question
[02:13] <prince_jammys> Mushrooms: X sets up the whole video, mouse, keyboard --- then something like gnome or KDE sits on top
[02:13] <CyanideD> i just burnt the iso for ubuntu 7.10 on to a disk i go to load from disk on boot and it brings me right back here why didnt it do anything
[02:13] <Jangari> CyanideD: you might have to change the default boot order for your machine, though it should boot from a bootable CD first by default
[02:13] <Mushrooms> prince_jammys: oh ok is that why it's called xorg.conf
[02:13] <prince_jammys> Mushrooms: most things in this set up are detachable, which is why you have so many options and configurations
[02:14] <eck090> hey guys
[02:14] <chrone> hello all
[02:14] <eegore> yo
[02:14] <Veeger1> CyanideD: Sorry, missed that.. you need to define what you mean by brings you back here
[02:14] <achandrashekar>  hello, i have box running mail on a box which has both internal and external access. I am running this at a school, and noticed that i could send a message as anyone via telneting to port 25. Is there a way to prevent this??If kids discover this "feature" they can send as anyone.
[02:14] <amenado> CyanideD-> it brought you right here? how was that possible?
[02:14] <Jangari> his/her normal installation, i assume, Veeger1
[02:14] <prince_jammys> Mushrooms: it's not like you uninstall Internet Explorer and break the whole system --- you have to try hard to break this system
[02:14] <chrone> i need help on flashdrive hotplugging
[02:15] <mattgrieser> I don't want to step on toes, but I had a linux question. Is there a protocol to getting help here?
[02:15] <Che-Anarc> How to install an rpm file?
[02:15] <Veeger1> Jangari: Did not want to assume
[02:15] <eck090> is anyone else having trouble with TS on ubuntu?
[02:15] <prince_jammys> !ask | mattgrieser
[02:15] <CyanideD> brings me back to ubuntu 6.06 dapper instead of loading the disk
[02:15] <ubotu> mattgrieser: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[02:15] <Veeger1> Che-Anarc: not advised
[02:15] <Jangari> ;)
[02:15] <mattgrieser> !ask ?
[02:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask ? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:15] <Che-Anarc> Veeger1  is acrobat reader
[02:15] <prince_jammys> mattgrieser: :) thats the protocol
[02:15] <eck090> Che: i dont believe you can install RPM on ubuntu safly
[02:15] <chrone> everytime i eject my flashdrive, this error message always popups: Cannot unmount volume
[02:15] <chrone> with its details: cannot remove directory
[02:15] <VistaDidItAgain> Sorry guys, is there any way of doing a windows system restore using linux?
[02:15] <amenado> CyanideD-> is your system setup to boot from CD first? you have to modify your bios to make this happen
[02:15] <Thedjatclubrock> Veeger1: It is the version from apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[02:16] <Mushrooms> prince_jammys: lol you never know, newbies like myself can be pretty capable of that sometimes. breaking stuff that is
[02:16] <mattgrieser> Is there a way to undo an "rm"?
[02:16] <Jangari> you should probably use windows to do a windows restore, VistaDidItAgain
[02:16] <Maki> tet
[02:16] <Jangari> no, mattgrieser
[02:16] <prince_jammys> Mushrooms: careful with the sudo, that's all
[02:16] <CyanideD> i went to boot menu pressed boot from IDE-CDRom
[02:16] <Veeger1> CyanideD: So the disk is not booting?  Did you md5 the download?  if the disk does not boot, and your system is set to boot the cd first, you have a bad burn a bad download etc
[02:16] <eek_> hello
[02:16] <mattgrieser> fair enough. Anyone else using snippits?
[02:16] <cellofellow> Does anybody know a way to open PowerISO DAA files?
[02:17] <Joelito> Hi all, what's the name of the package that when right-click a ".deb" file opens a GUI for installing it?
[02:17] <Veeger1> Thedjatclubrock: What do you mean by didnt work.
[02:17] <Jangari> CyanideD: do you still have the iso image on your machine? check the md5
[02:17] <Bidou> Do somebody speak in French ?
[02:17] <eek_> i'd like to know how to change a pfd to .odc  anybody know how?
[02:17] <CyanideD> could the burn speed have something to do with it i had the same problem when i made my 6.006 live cd
[02:17] <VistaDidItAgain> I cant, windows isn't booting . . . gets stuck at crcdisk.sys or the green-bar load screen Jangari
[02:17] <Veeger1> !fr | Bidou
[02:17] <ubotu> Bidou: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:17] <Mushrooms> prince_jammys: yeah that was anothing thing i wanted to ask, is there some sort of convention for using sudo? like obviously sudo lets you do anything, so it'd make sense to not use it unless you really need it
[02:17] <CyanideD> how do i md5
[02:17] <Jangari> try #windows then
[02:17] <cellofellow> Joelito: gdebit-gtk
[02:17] <Jangari> !md5 | CyanideD
[02:17] <ubotu> CyanideD: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[02:17] <mattgrieser> Bidou, probably not enough to say "oui"
[02:18] <Veeger1> Mushrooms: Please also see /msg ubotu gksudo
[02:18] <VistaDidItAgain> Thanks Jangari :-)
[02:18] <Jangari> no worries
[02:18] <Thedjatclubrock> Veeger1: Gnome shows an empty error dialogue and freezes
[02:18] <Joelito> cellofellow: thanks :)
[02:18] <prince_jammys> mattgrieser: the whole question about snippets ::: best chances of having someone who knows answer
[02:18] <eek_> i'd like to know how to change a .pfd to .odc  anybody know how?
[02:18] <kcynice> someone would like to tell me how to uninstall scim?I have a new input method installed. but the new method could not work because of scim
[02:19] <Veeger1> Thedjatclubrock: Obviously it did not alwasy do this since you got the second desktop installed.  What other changes were made to the system, and non-official repos etc?
[02:19] <eck090> does anyone else use TS here?
[02:19] <prince_jammys> kcynice: normal way of uninstalling didn't work
[02:19] <prince_jammys> kcynice: ?
[02:19] <eck090> i cant get voice to work
[02:19] <Mushrooms> Veeger1: awesome, that would be quite helpful
[02:19] <Jangari> Mushrooms: the convention is only to use it when not using would solicit an error message "you don't have permission to do that? or "only root can do that", and only when you know what you're actually doing
[02:19] <JangMunho> kcynice: fctix? just apt-get remove
[02:19] <kcynice> yes
[02:19] <Veeger1> Mushrooms: np
[02:19] <kcynice> I want to use fcitx
[02:20] <Mushrooms> Jangari: ok I understand. thanks!
[02:20] <Cyr4x> http://rafb.net/p/SBAfaM13.html
[02:20] <JangMunho>  kcynice: sudo apt-get remove scim*
[02:20] <K4k> where are the programs specified that start up with ubuntu at boot?
[02:20] <Jangari> eg., the command sudo rm -R * would be disasterous
[02:20] <Thedjatclubrock> Veeger1: Repos? I just tried to dual-boot Debian, but when I got to the partitioner I decided that Ubuntu is better ;) and quit
[02:20] <elm1> hello
[02:20] <Cyr4x> that's from sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[02:20] <kcynice> ok,i will have a try
[02:20] <elm1> im having a problem using firefox
[02:20] <Cyr4x> it seems /dev/hda6 but something is wrong
[02:20] <Jangari> K4k: system > preferences > sessions
[02:21] <K4k> Jangari, erm...im not in gnome
[02:21] <Veeger1> Thedjatclubrock: can you get into recovery mode.. a cli?
[02:21] <elm1> i am not able to browse when i enter the worded address onli by ip, are there any solutions?
[02:21] <Jangari> i'm on gnome and it is for me
[02:21] <Thedjatclubrock> Veeger1: Recovery mode from what?
[02:21] <Jangari> well, they're programs and commands to run on login
[02:21] <neopsyche> Hi.. i installed usenext.deb.. but.. apparently it is spyware? how will this effect me on linux / ubuntu?
[02:21] <eek_> i'd like to know how to change a .pfd to .odt  anybody know how?
[02:21] <Cyr4x> so?
[02:21] <K4k> Jangari, isn't it in file somewhere on the drive?
[02:22] <neopsyche> they said that there is spyware in accounts.exe.. does this still affect me on ubuntu since i installed it?
[02:22] <Veeger1> Thedjatclubrock: I dont know how much help I can be with an aborted debian install...on a dual boot...    recovery mode is usually accessed from the grub menu
[02:22] <Jangari> possibly,
[02:22] <neopsyche> its not avirus. apparently just spyware
[02:22] <elm1> anybody have any ideas?
[02:22] <mattgrieser> I deleted a snippits example entitled "date" that pasted the current date. Anyone have the text of that file?
[02:22] <Veeger1> neopsyche: You installed it under wine?
[02:22] <kcynice> Jangmunho: and what's the difference between dpkg -r and  apt-get remove?
[02:22] <Thedjatclubrock> Veeger1: GNOME will work in failsafe
[02:23] <Jangari> snippets for what, mattgrieser?
[02:23] <neopsyche> Veergerl.. no installed using .deb
[02:23] <mattgrieser> snippits is a text replacer
[02:23] <Veeger1> Thedjatclubrock: I would not know where to begin to untangle that. sorry
[02:23] <Jony> join/ suse
[02:23] <ogre> what is the directory that contains the  init directories? is it /etc ?????
[02:23] <Thedjatclubrock> Veeger1: Recovery seems to be working, Thanks :)
[02:23] <Veeger1> neopsyche: accounts.exe was in a deb?
[02:23] <Jangari> Jony: /join*
[02:24] <Jony> um
[02:24] <Jony> right
[02:24] <Jony> sory bout that
[02:24] <Cyr4x> http://rafb.net/p/SBAfaM13.html
[02:24] <Jony> still, i can't get in
[02:24] <neopsyche> veegerl.. yup
[02:24] <Veeger1> Thedjatclubrock: Sorry I dont have any good answers for that
[02:24] <JangMunho> kcynice: dpkg will just operate one single package, but apt-get will deal with the dependence
[02:24] <Cyr4x> my sudo fscp -l /dev/hda result
[02:24] <Starnestommy> ogre: /etc and /etc/init.d/, as well as /etc/rc(0-6).d and /etc/rcS.d/
[02:24] <Jony> who do you do it exactly?
[02:24] <elm1> hello, im having a problem with browsing in firefox, i can onli go to sites via IP, any1 have any solutions?
[02:24] <Rolo> very happy with ubuntu, only one problem: it can't read some small files from a DVD burned in win xp. win xp reads them with no problems (with the same computer). Path must be 128 characters. Other files are read normally. Any suggestion?
[02:25] <Cyr4x> there is ff id and System BBT
[02:25] <mattgrieser> Jangari it's snippits, not snippets. It is a text replacer
[02:25] <Veeger1> neopsyche: I assume it was not from our repos?  But an exe in a Deb with a virus/spyware.. I need more info
[02:25] <kcynice> i have run apt-get remove scim*,but when i press Ctrl+space, scim remainly can launch
[02:25] <Cyr4x> i don't know what's this
[02:25] <Jangari> i got that the first time mattgrieser, my silence was code for 'sorry, as i have no idea what snippits is, i can't help', but you might want to try learning some regular expressions
[02:25] <hikenboot> greetings all anyone know what package provides ld.so.nohwcap ?
[02:26] <prince_jammys> kcynice: apt-get didn't give any errors?
[02:26] <Veeger1> Thedjatclubrock: From cli the first thing I would check is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  if that helps at all
[02:26] <Cyr4x> .
[02:26] <JangMunho> kcynice: try sudo apt-get --purge remove scim, and log off when the process finish.
[02:26] <kcynice> prince_jammys: no.
[02:26] <neopsyche> Veegerl.. http://www.usenext.de/usenextde/download/usenext.deb
[02:26] <Jangari> anyone know how nautilus can show more that the default columns in list view? I want audio properties
[02:26] <kcynice> you mean,i should restart my computer?
[02:27] <mattgrieser> Thanks Jangari. I just wanted to make sure! I'm oh so new...
[02:27] <elm1> hello can sum1 help me please?
[02:27] <prince_jammys> mattgrieser: this "date" file is just a sample that came with the program?
[02:27] <Jangari> probably best to refrain from rm'ing sh|t then, mattgrieser
[02:27] <JangMunho> kcynice: log off, not restart. Ctrl+Alt+backspace will do the job
[02:27] <mattgrieser> prince: yes it is
[02:27] <Jangari> or, reinstall snippits
[02:27] <kcynice> ok
[02:28] <prince_jammys> mattgrieser: did you try reinstalling the program so you get the file back?
[02:28] <ogre> does gutsy come with a C compiler? if not, what is a good one?
[02:28] <Starnestommy> ogre: GCC is installed with the build-essential package
[02:28] <mattgrieser> Jangari I think i should have used cp instead of mv when I moved the sample
[02:29] <prince_jammys> mattgrieser: why not reinstall?
[02:29] <Jangari> oh, if you only used mv, it should still be somewhere
[02:29] <mattgrieser> prince: I have not tried that. I'm afraid the muchas configuration it took to get it working will be lost
[02:29] <CyanideD> the download is fine
[02:29] <CyanideD> so its the cd right
[02:29] <ogre> Starnestommy:  2 for 2 thanks alot
[02:30] <prince_jammys> mattgrieser: if you're concerned about that, you could try copying the configuration files (though i don't think reinstalling would overwrite them)
[02:30] <Thedjatclubrock> Veeger1: What would sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg do
[02:30] <mattgrieser> Jangair: I used mv to get it to my actual folder and out of the examples folder, then I needed to change it and rm it, thinking it was still in /examples
[02:30] <eek_> how would i open a pdf so i can type over it in linux??
[02:30] <prince_jammys> mattgrieser: check this --> ls -al | grep snippits
[02:31] <CyanideD> does anyone in here use k3b to burn Iso
[02:31] <Jangari> CyanideD: how about opening the update manager? it should (don't really know) offer to upgrade your whole system to 7.10
[02:31] <mannytu> no
[02:31] <prince_jammys> mattgrieser: or just ls -al if you want to spot it yourself
[02:31] <CyanideD> checking now
[02:32] <mattgrieser> prince_jammys: ok, i see it... now what
[02:32] <kcynice> ok,my fcitx works well now. Thanks very much.all
[02:32] <prince_jammys> mattgrieser: also .... did you just move the date file but don't know where it is?
[02:32] <CyanideD> nope
[02:32] <Jangari> or, mattgrieser, if you want to be thorough, try ls -laR / | grep snippits
[02:32] <brazilian812> can anyone help me solve a "cannot initialize HAL" error?
[02:32] <prince_jammys> mattgrieser: is there a file or folder DOTsnippits
[02:32] <Jangari> oh, forget that, you found it
[02:32] <mattgrieser> prince_jammys: no, I said --> rm ~/.snippits/date
[02:33] <Jangari> well then, 'oops'
[02:33] <CyanideD> i get no option to upgrade
[02:33] <c01100011> old debiant user, I always default to using apt, not very antiquated with synaptic. Stumbled upon the add/remove programs button in the menu. Can someone tell me about it? (where does it aggregate it's lists and ratings from)
[02:33] <prince_jammys> mattgrieser: ok , so it's gone.   copy that configuration file somewhere, like cp .snippits snippitsbackup
[02:33] <neopsyche> Veegerl.. did you get the link?
[02:33] <Veeger1> Thedjatclubrock: It would reset some basic video settings that might be causing a problem, but other than that No decent ideas
[02:34] <prince_jammys> mattgrieser: don't put a dot in front of the backup , and it wont be a hidden file
[02:34] <Mushrooms> well i'm gonna be off for now, thanks for all of your help today prince_jammys, Veeger1 and Jangari
[02:34] <mattgrieser> It's not a crucial file or anything, I just couldn't find the contents online anywhere I checked
[02:34] <Jangari> can't help you CyanideD, its either the disk or your cdrom
[02:34] <prince_jammys> Mushrooms: bye
[02:34] <Veeger1> neopsyche: YEs I did, but I dont care to install the deb to try and help you
[02:34] <neopsyche> ok
[02:34] <prince_jammys> mattgrieser: you may get an error if its a folder and not a file... if you do, replace cp with cp -r
[02:34] <brazilian812> can anyone help? i get a "failed to initialize hal" error when logging in...
[02:34] <CyanideD> ok then what program do you use to burn isos
[02:34] <Jangari> but one last resort, CyanideD, is go into the bios when you restart the machine and make sure that the cdrom is the first startup device
[02:35] <Veeger1> neopsyche: I dont know why they would have a *.exe inside a deb.. and how did you scan it for virii?
[02:35] <CyanideD> ill do it again
[02:35] <elm1> hello, cud i have sum help please, im very new to linux and im having sum trouble browsing, im not able to go to site via the url, i can onli browse using ip, any solutions come to mind?
[02:35] <elm1> hello, cud i have sum help please, im very new to linux and im having sum trouble browsing, im not able to go to site via the url, i can onli browse using ip, any solutions come to mind?
[02:35] <prince_jammys> mattgrieser: this, btw is almost definitely unnecessary, but since you're afraid to lose the configuration, might as well copy
[02:35] <Starnestommy> elm1: looks like a DNS issue
[02:36] <elm1> thanks but how do i fix it ive been looking at the forums but so far ntn ha worked
[02:36] <Veeger1> elm1: You have a dns lookup issue.. but I dont know how to fix it..
[02:36] <martin> yea elml looks to be dns issue
[02:36] <Starnestommy> elm1: is your IP static or assigned by DHCP?
[02:36] <Jangari> Veeger1: virii is not the plural of virus, not even in latin
[02:36] <martin> you using a router or modem?
[02:36] <Jangari> though i agree it should be these days
[02:36] <elm1> DHCP
[02:36] <elm1> modem
[02:36] <cycom> elm1: does /etc/resolv.conf have anything in it?
[02:36] <Veeger1> Jangari: Thanks for the spell check
[02:36] <mattgrieser> prince_jammys: Thanks. it copied fine with cp -r
[02:36] <Jangari> ;)
[02:37] <Starnestommy> elm1: try sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart
[02:37] <norty> How do i edit the menus on my taskbar such as Applications, Places, Systems - i dont want some of the things under the submenus like internet, office etc.. (ubuntu 7.10) ?
[02:37] <gummybearx> hey jon
[02:37] <elm1> nope
[02:37] <joeamined> hi
[02:37] <cycom> elm1: nothing?
[02:37] <mattgrieser> prince_jammys: I'll try reinstalling
[02:37] <brazilian812> hey gummy
[02:37] <Starnestommy> norty: use System > preferences > Main Menu
[02:37] <gummybearx> so what r u trying to do?
[02:37] <Jangari> norty: system > preferences > main menu
[02:37] <elm1> lemme try it again
[02:37] <brazilian812> fix my HAL problem
[02:37] <prince_jammys> mattgrieser: after you double check that the copy is there, look around to see any other snippits stuff, though i doubt -- copy if you find any and reinstall
[02:37] <Jangari> ah, beat me Starnestommy
[02:37] <MrKeuner> hi, there is a problem with my mysql-server-5.0 installation therefore it does not start. I would like to remove --purge it but dpkg gives me error. I would like to force it to do that but could not decide which force options I should be using in order not to break anything. could anybody help?
[02:37] <cycom> elm1: cat /etc/resolv.conf. nothing is in there?
[02:37] <joeamined> video streaming on firefox sometimes doesn't display correcty (audio works but video shows green lines)
[02:38] <norty> Starnestommy, when i do that i only see Applications and System menus, not places.. ?
[02:38] <martin> elmi i suggest you do a sudo /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[02:38] <martin> and add prepend domain-name-servers 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220;
[02:38] <elm1> no i get my nameservers
[02:38] <brazilian812> gummybearx: when i log in, i get that "fail to initialize hal" error
[02:38] <martin> to the file
[02:38] <CyanideD> nope that doesnt work either
[02:38] <Jangari> joeamined: try the restricted extras package
[02:38] <gummybearx> brazilian812 ugh....so whats it doing? just complaining each logon?
[02:38] <martin> to add opendns servers
[02:38] <Starnestommy> norty: it's under System > Preferences > Main Menu
[02:38] <brazilian812> yea, and i dont see my dvd drive
[02:38] <Jangari> sorry, CyanideD, i have no idea
[02:38] <cycom> elm1: so there are nameservers there.
[02:38] <gummybearx> brazilian812 u try the gizoogle?
[02:38] <elm1> uh huh
[02:38] <martin> and see if you have any joy
[02:38] <Starnestommy> .w 13
[02:39] <Starnestommy> whoops
[02:39] <brazilian812> gummybearx: yea, but it was just rude
[02:39] <prince_jammys> mattgrieser: the DOTfiles in your home are personal settings for your programs, and are hidden by default so they don't get in your way....
[02:39] <brazilian812> gummybearx: nor did i understand the solutions
[02:39] <Veeger1> Jangari: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plural_of_virus   re virii
[02:39] <gummybearx> brazilian812 heh, well lemme lookz
[02:39] <Jangari> gimme a minute, Veeger1
[02:39] <eck090> hey, how do i disable my sound card, i use a usb headset
[02:40] <neopsyche> dunno.
[02:40] <neopsyche> nevermind
[02:40] <elm1> im gonna try martin, one sec
[02:40] <eck090> for some reason ts still picks it up
[02:40] <eck090> and it wont use my usb headset
[02:40] <node_6> which is the repo for tracking multimedia packages (mplayer, transcode, etc.)?
[02:40] <cellofellow> medibuntu
[02:40] <node_6> tyvm :)
[02:40] <prince_jammys> !medibuntu | node_6
[02:40] <ubotu> node_6: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[02:41] <jrod> how can i get different wallpapers in different workspaces?
[02:41] <shbla99> hello. how can i disable cron from logging to syslog?
[02:41] <gummybearx> brazilian812  what kind of cd/dvd drive u have?
[02:41] <martin> i have the same problem with debian ased distros and that fixes it for me. OS cant seem to get settings via DHCP
[02:41] <elm1> martin it says command not found
[02:42] <mattgrieser> prince_jammys: the install worked, and "cp date ~/.snippits/date" from the recreated example file worked fine. Now I can say 14-Feb-08 _so_ easily!!! Thank you for the help.
[02:42] <prince_jammys> mattgrieser: np
[02:42] <brazilian812> gummybearx: its a dvd rom, cd-rw one...dell?
[02:42] <norty> Starnestommy, i only see applications and system menu when i go to system > preferences > main menu, there is no menu for places there....
[02:42] <mattgrieser> Jangari: Thank you for your help. It is solved
[02:43] <gummybearx> brazilian812  i mean the manufacturer
[02:43] <Jangari> glad to hear
[02:43] <Jangari> Veeger1: i feel totally vindicated
[02:44] <carter> Why?
[02:44] <rodolfo> hi guys; I am trying to install StepMania from source but I keep getting this error msg "configure: error: No OpenGL library could be found." when I enter the ./configure command. Any idea of what it can be?
[02:44] <gummybearx> brazilian812 ok so maybe its DBUS
[02:44] <brazilian812> sure
[02:44] <Veeger1> Jangari: As long as you are happy
[02:44] <Jangari> precisely
[02:44] <gummybearx> brazilian812 here, do this: sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S20dbus
[02:44] <brazilian812> gummybearx: my hardware manager wont open, so lets assume dbus
[02:44] <daurnimator> hey all
[02:44] <daurnimator> I'm trying to install kde4
[02:44] <elm1> cycom, i havent had any luck
[02:45] <daurnimator> but there are missing deps
[02:45] <brazilian812> gummybearx: says cannot remove, doesnt exist
[02:45] <gummybearx> argh
[02:45] <gummybearx> lamexorz
[02:45] <Veeger1> daurnimator: Better answers in #kde4
[02:45] <carter> Um...I installed a 8500 gt g card, installed the driver on my windows, and now it won't work on my linux, (screen not found), how do i install the driver...
[02:45] <daurnimator> thanks Veeger1
[02:45] <brazilian812> gummybearx: dont argh me, help me!
[02:45] <Veeger1> np
[02:45] <daurnimator> but i think its a repo problem
[02:45] <daurnimator> http://pastey.net/82205
[02:45] <cellofellow> carter: "Screen Not Found" is a xorg.conf problem.
[02:46] <PaPaFD> I am mounting a drive with this line in fstab    /dev/hdb1       /media/Samba      vfat   rw,user         0 0      IF i want anyone to be able to read write what should it look like?
[02:46] <cellofellow> carter: sudo dpgk-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:46] <carter> run that in the recovery mode command prompt?
[02:46] <cellofellow> carter: yes
[02:46] <Jangari> ooh, 'information available', never got that message before
[02:46] <c01100011> there should be some sort of warning if a user decides to hide alacarte
[02:46] <cellofellow> carter: in recovery, sans the sudo
[02:46] <carter> ok, i'll try that.
[02:46] <cellofellow> c01100011: that could be useful
[02:46] <Jangari> oh, it's just telling me to restart firefox,
[02:46] <Amaranth> c01100011: right click on 'Applications' and choose 'Edit Menus'
[02:46] <Jangari> that ain't information!
[02:46] <mouseboyx> In gimp how do you move something that is selected? the move tool, only moves selections, this seems stupid.
[02:47] <cellofellow> c01100011: but one can always type Alt+F2 and run it there.
[02:47] <c01100011> I didn't know the name, had to apt-cache search for it
[02:47] <Amaranth> c01100011: right click on 'Applications' and choose 'Edit Menus'
[02:47] <c01100011> it isn't a big deal, just something i could see panicking my grandmother
[02:47] <cellofellow> Amaranth: he already knows, he's just offering advice.
[02:47] <Veeger1> Jangari: You are right.. that ain't right arent it
[02:48] <cellofellow> c01100011: maybe submit some spec.
[02:48] <sean> yo peeps...
[02:48] <chrisn> hi
[02:48] <Amaranth> cellofellow: I'll mark it Invalid :P
[02:48] <c01100011> eh, grandma will be fine, I'm lazy
[02:48] <Jangari> are you having a jibe at my sub-standard dialectal use of phrasal negation?
[02:48] <cellofellow> lol
[02:48] <martin> elm1 should be sudo gedit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf all on one line
[02:48] <martin>  then there should be abit in the file which looks like the below
[02:48] <martin>  request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers,
[02:48] <martin>   domain-name, host-name,
[02:48] <martin>   netbios-name-servers, netbios-scope;
[02:48] <martin>  domain-name-servers,
[02:48] <FloodBot2> martin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:48] <sean> does anyone know what client i can use to connect to a RealVNC4 server on a windows2000 box???
[02:48] <chrisn> firefox is crashing with flash
[02:48] <chrisn> it is really making me mad
[02:49] <mouseboyx> In gimp how do you move something that is selected? the move tool, only moves selections, does anyone know, http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/lists/gimp-developer/2006-October/016537.html
[02:49] <sean> Krdc wont work
[02:49] <Amaranth> chrisn: that's because adobe makes a crappy flash player
[02:49] <Veeger1> Jangari: Of course not :)
[02:49] <yago> Hi
[02:49] <Jangari> good then, because i loves my grammar, innit
[02:49] <chrisn> Amaranth: is there a workaround?
[02:49] <c01100011> speaking of grandma, what is the cleanest backup and restore process. (hate to say it, but i am looking for a time machine)
[02:49] <Amaranth> chrisn: Don't use flash
[02:49] <yago> does anyone wanna chat?
[02:49] <elm1> ye martin i c that, then?
[02:49] <Amaranth> chrisn: or, if you just want youtube and such, use gnash or swfdec
[02:50] <Veeger1> yago: Sure, go to #Ubuntu-offtopic
[02:50] <cellofellow> my biggest beef with Adobe Flash is how Flash always has to hide the HTML.
[02:50] <yago> ok sorry!
[02:50] <Jangari> sean, applications > internet > terminal server client
[02:50] <PaPaFD> I am mounting a drive with this line in fstab    /dev/hdb1       /media/Samba      vfat   rw,user         0 0      IF i want anyone to be able to read write what should it look like?
[02:50] <martin> try to reopen a web page using the url and see if you have any luck usinh open dns
[02:50] <mouseboyx> Can someone help? how do you move selection contents in gimp? is this possible?
[02:50] <Jangari> cellofellow: that's partly because there ain't any html in a flash element
[02:50] <elm1> one sec
[02:50] <Jangari> well, not much anyway
[02:51] <Gary_inNYC> @find Bullet For My Valentine - Scream Aim Fire - videopimp.mpg
[02:51] <sean> thanks Jangari i will give it a shot =)
[02:51] <elm1> just with the file open, where shud i add the 2 is u gave me?
[02:51] <Jangari> mouseboyx: you might have to do something like 'layer via cut'
[02:51] <elm1> IT WORKED
[02:51] <chrisn> Amaranth: Ok thanks
[02:51] <elm1> IT WORKED
[02:51] <elm1> thanks martin
[02:51] <Veeger1> chrisn: may I suggest you try tis option   /msg ubotu flashissues   for a way to get it going
[02:51] <cellofellow> Jangari: but in Windows, DHTML stuff can float above flash. In Linux, it just doesn't happen. Most annoying when a website has pull-down menus that end up behind the flash widget.
[02:51] <mouseboyx> ok just ctrl x ctrl v
[02:52] <trainee20> jj
[02:52] <chrisn> You know... it seemed to get worse after ranting to a friend about how stable ubuntu was lol
[02:52] <martin> great glad to see it worked :)
[02:52] <Jangari> oh, i see what you mean, cellofellow, i thought you meant as in the bundled flash code blocks the user from (easily) seeing the code
[02:52] <elm1> :-D
[02:52] <elm1> thanks alot man
[02:53] <Jangari> chrisn: find out what flash plugins you have installed, somehow, it can't be too bad, then uninstall them, remove them and purge them, then do "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[02:53] <brooksbp> hello
[02:53] <brooksbp> what is the command to run .deb files from the command line? THANKS!
[02:54] <mouseboyx> aptitude
[02:54] <elm1> now onto my usb issues, i cant detect my external drive any thoughts?
[02:54] <kadam> hello!  I'm trying to get a PHP develoment platform going on.  I don't necessarily want to install a lamp server, as this is already an established machine... I only want to be able to see local PHP files as they should be rendered.  I installed php5, but no luck.  Any ideas?
[02:54] <daurnimator> how do I remove/delete compiz?
[02:54] <Jangari> try another usb port, elm1
[02:54] <cellofellow> kadam: I think XAMMP is something like that.
[02:54] <Veeger1> daurnimator: compiz --replace   but ask in #Compiz for details
[02:54] <CyanideD> ok i just got the cd to work im on it now. i just have a few questions before i install it
[02:55] <Cyr4x> i've tried everything and still nothing
[02:55] <kadam> cellofellow: I'll look, thanks 8)
[02:55] <Jangari> it should at the very least recognise its existence, unless you have to configure the device on a windows machine, which would bite
[02:55] <Cyr4x> even kubuntu installer from live cd doesn't see any partitions
[02:55] <Jangari> good, CyanideD
[02:55] <Cyr4x> but fdisk lists them
[02:55] <CyanideD> i burnt it wron with k3b
[02:55] <Veeger1> Cyr4x: Try the hirens cd  or gparted cd....
[02:56] <elm1> trying jangari
[02:56] <norty> how do i edit my path environment variable? i want to add the path /usr/local/pgsql/bin and ive tried adding this line to both .bash_profile and /etc/profile - PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/pgsql/bin but when i do echo $PATH it doesn't show up in there anywhere...?
[02:56] <CyanideD> 7.10 when i install it will i lose all data
[02:56] <orbisvicis> how is compiz started in ubuntu ?
[02:56] <Jangari> yes, CyanideD
[02:56] <sean> Jangari, that worked, but i had to disable secerity for it to work... any ideas?
[02:56] <chrisn> if I upgrade to 7.10 will I have to re-setup my wireless drivers?
[02:56] <elm1> nope jangari no joy
[02:56] <brooksbp> What is the command to run a .deb file from the command line????
[02:56] <Jangari> disable security, sean? how do you mean?
[02:56] <CyanideD> ok, is 7.10 just like 6.06 when it comes to the command line?
[02:56] <cellofellow> chrisn: are you using ndiswrapper?
[02:56] <Jangari> whoa, what are we talking about here?
[02:57] <cellofellow> CyanideD: actually, more stuff is changed in the underlying bits.
[02:57] <Jangari> oh, vnc
[02:57] <Veeger1> CyanideD: Yes the installer formats the /  root partition but can be told not to format the others
[02:57] <CyanideD> ok so it still uses sudo right
[02:57] <Veeger1> yes
[02:58] <Jangari> if you were fine on 6.06, CyanideD, 7.10 should be easy
[02:58] <prince_jammys> brooksbp: to install a deb:::   dpkg -i filename.deb       i believe
[02:58] <sean> on the realVNC server on the W2k box, i can only connect to it if i disable authentication
[02:58] <Jangari> sean, what did terminal server client do?
[02:58] <sean> Jangari, ^^^^^^^^^^^^
[02:58] <norty> how do i edit my path environment variable? i want to add the path /usr/local/pgsql/bin and ive tried adding this line to both .bash_profile and /etc/profile - PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/pgsql/bin but when i do echo $PATH it doesn't show up in there anywhere...?
[02:58] <Jangari> oh, i see
[02:58] <brooksbp> prince_jammys: tytyty
[02:59] <CyanideD> ok the main reason i wont to switch is to give that compiz-fusion a trh
[02:59] <Jangari> hmm, you should't have to disable authentication, as long as you authenticate with terminal server client, sean
[02:59] <CyanideD> try
[02:59] <jrib> norty: the file needs to get sourced.  Restart your terminal
[02:59] <jrib> norty: or maybe logout and log back in
[02:59] <sean> what do you mean authenticate with terminal server client Jangari ?
[02:59] <Veeger1> CyanideD: Lots of fun.. what video card?
[02:59] <krammer> all of a sudden my root password is not being accepted
[02:59] <shbla99> hello. how can i disable cron from logging to syslog?
[02:59] <Jangari> TSC (terminal server client) asks you for a username, and hitting connect should prompt for a password
[02:59] <jrib> !root | krammer
[02:59] <CyanideD> nvida 6200
[02:59] <ubotu> krammer: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[03:00] <martin> elm1 try to run from a terminal lsusb before and after its plugged in to see if its detected
[03:00] <eck090> anyone else use TS on ubuntu
[03:00] <Veeger1> CyanideD: I run a 6600 you should not have an issue
[03:00] <eck090> that cant get thier damn mic to work
[03:00] <Cyr4x> gparted doesn't see anything
[03:00] <carter> Can someone help me on a driver issue
[03:00] <Cyr4x> whole disk unallocated
[03:00] <jrib> !ask | carter
[03:00] <ubotu> carter: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[03:00] <elm1> its not picking up at all
[03:00] <CyanideD> alright well ill be back on here later im sure thanks for all the help. now its time to install
[03:00] <elm1> cud it b a driver issue?
[03:01] <Jangari> good luck, CyanideD
[03:01] <Veeger1> Cyr4x: Hirens has some recovery tools...
[03:01] <Cyr4x> yes but now i can do nothing
[03:01] <Cyr4x> even burn a cd
[03:01] <mattgrieser> I'm having trouble using avant window nav in 7.10. When I click on its icon... nothing happens (that I can see)
[03:01] <kcynice> i want to use wsdfast,but i could not know how to start it.it can be found in /usr/bin.but I type wxdfast in terminal,there is an error about loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk2u_xrc-2.6.so.0
[03:01] <Veeger1> Cyr4x: Use a different machine to get that cd.. the more you try now the more you run the risk of losing more
[03:02] <prince_jammys> \msg ubotu
[03:02] <Cyr4x> if i would have it...
[03:02] <node_6> is there a cannonical way to say "Run this command and then shut down" ?
[03:02] <krammer> how can i get netcat to show on my desktop i have installed it but I can only run is from the cmd line
[03:02] <node_6> unattended shutdown, can't do  sudo halt  b/c no user will be present to enter pw
[03:03] <Veeger1> Cyr4x: Sorry cant help you.  If you cant do anything and you cant find a friend with a pc you may have to say goodbye to your data
[03:03] <jrib> node_6: COMMAND1 && COMMAND2  runs COMMAND2 if COMMAND1 completes successfully.  Use ; if you don't care that it is successful
[03:04] <node_6> jrib:  what does that have to do with my question?
[03:04] <carter> Fatal error no screens found - error message after installing new graphics card on windows, help!
[03:04] <chrisn> cellofellow: yes
[03:04] <jrib> node_6: make COMMAND1 your command and COMMAND2 your shutdown...
[03:04] <node_6> jrib:  I know that.  the trick is making the shutdown unattended
[03:04] <prince_jammys> node_6: COMMAND1: run this command COMMAND2: shut down
[03:04] <davidof> Hi
[03:04] <LjL> node_6: the fact that he told you how to run a command and then another command, which might quite possibly be the shutdown command...?
[03:05] <davidof> I've just installed Ubunto on my laptop, But I thing I've done something grong
[03:05] <LjL> node_6: sudo sh -c "command ; halt"
[03:05] <node_6> okay guys.   sudo halt  will *not* work for me b/c it require a pw.  if needed I can type in the pw before the first command is run but I do *not* want command 1 to be run as superuser
[03:05] <davidof> I have separated /boot (/dev/sda1) from / (/dev/sda3), and now grub fails
[03:06] <davidof> Can anybody help me?
[03:06] <LjL> node_6: err... i guess sudo sh -c "sudo -u username command ; halt"
[03:06] <eromero> hi fellows, how can i tell ubuntu not to open the usb keys when they're connected (and run something instead)
[03:06] <amenado> david-> what is the error?
[03:06] <davidof> Is it posible to have /boot in a separated partition from /?
[03:06] <astro76> node_6: you could edit sudoers and allow your user to use shutdown without a password
[03:06] <node_6> that was my sol'n, too.  just wondered if there was a ubuntu-provided way that was simpler :/
[03:06] <eromero> davidof: you probably need to update your grub.conf file
[03:06] <astro76> node_6: or set a cron or 'at' job
[03:06] <prince_jammys> davidof: yes, many people do that
[03:07] <SekkeS8> #connect gamesurge.net
[03:07] <Jangari> gotta restart
[03:07] <davidof> amenado, prince_jammys  grub failed when tried to install. At 94% of Ubuntu's installation
[03:07] <kadam> astro76: I did that, allowed users of group sudo to not have to enter their PW... Didn't work on my desktop, was flawless on my laptop... Strange, tis
[03:07] <node_6> thanks all.  good nite to ya
[03:08] <davidof> Is it possible to repair that without having to do a new re-installation?
[03:08] <amenado> davidof-> gives you any error? how do you know it is grub that failed?
[03:08] <norty> How do I edit the Places menu in ubuntu 7.10?
[03:09] <Varanger> Has anyone installed the lastest NVIDIA drivers? Ubotu isn't much of a help with and old wiki page
[03:09] <LjL> Varanger: well, ubuntu doesn't *want* you to go and install the "latest" NVIDIA driver to begin with, it'd much rather have you use the ones from the repositories, which have the added benefit of not breaking on kernel updates and stuff.
[03:10] <davidof> amenado, yes. The Installation process failed at 94% (Don't remember the error message, but was Grub install failed...)
[03:11] <norty> How do I edit the Places menu in ubuntu 7.10?
[03:11] <taz> hi roomis
[03:11] <Varanger> LjL: My PC came with Windows. It'd much rather  have me use Windows and I installed Linux after all...
[03:11] <amenado> davidof-> it is preferable if you complete the install instead of attempting to kind of repair to complete, you dont know what it has not completed, later on you may start wondering what went wrong
[03:11] <taz> any one know how to burner 7.10 Ubuntu  ??
[03:12] <no0tic> !burning | taz
[03:12] <ubotu> taz: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus-CD-Burner, GToaster, xcdroast (GNOME), wodim (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[03:12] <LjL> Varanger, well, *our* suggestion (no, call it a strong recommendation) is to keep using the ubuntu-provided drivers. do you know for sure that you've got anything to gain from the "latest" drivers? from what i've heard, there's more added bugs than benefits. and in any case, if you do that, be prepared to have a text-mode only system every time there is a kernel update
[03:12] <davidof> amenado, I could not continue the installation :(. I see there is no menu.lst in grub directory (inside of /dev/sda1)
[03:13] <davidof> amenado, Is there any way to install grub from the beggining?
[03:13] <taz> ok im looking for add/remove.and what called name of ""-------"??
[03:13] <Gnine>  /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:13] <amenado> davidof-> is your /dev/sda1 your /boot partition?
[03:13] <davidof> I mean, I want grub to install every files (included menu.lst)
[03:13] <prince_jammys> tax what?
[03:14] <prince_jammys> taz what?
[03:14] <chrisn> my flash is fixed now!
[03:14] <davidof> amenado, I have started ubuntu with Live CD now. And I've mounted /dev/sda1 on /mnt
[03:14] <chrisn> holy crap!
[03:14] <norty> How do I edit the Places menu in ubuntu 7.10?
[03:14] <kadam> taz: Adept?
[03:15] <no0tic> !synaptic | taz
[03:15] <taz> i found k3b .. so i will download
[03:15] <Optimus55> hey is there any way to have ubuntu icons automatically line up on the desktop to the right?
[03:15] <ubotu> taz: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[03:15] <amenado> davidof why not just re-install? if you have the know how to install grub and initramfs etc..then maybe you would not be asking here :)
[03:16] <taz> ok
[03:17] <RootyRootRootW00> Hi Gome  won't recognize which directory I'm in when I'm saving a file or untarring a package. Any advice please? Also it often deletes the filename from the saveas dialalogue when navigating directories.
[03:17] <norty> How do I edit the Places menu in ubuntu 7.10?
[03:17] <chrisn> err spoke too soon
[03:17] <davidof> amenado, re-install is 2 hours :(. I thought there was a quicker way to solve my problem :(
[03:17] <prince_jammys> norty: you can only add bookmarks, i don't think you can delete stuff from the menu editor
[03:18] <amenado> norty maybe within  gconf-editor
[03:18] <norty> prince_jammys, ive edited the applications and systems menu but places doesn't appear as one of the options to edit from the main menu
[03:18] <taz> the reason my cd linux ubuntu 6.1
[03:18] <prince_jammys> norty: right
[03:19] <taz> so  i decide to get new cd with 7.10
[03:19] <prince_jammys> norty: you can only add stuff, but can't remove stuff ...  you can however, get rid of the menu if its in your way
[03:19] <norty> there's gotta be a way to remove some stuff..
[03:20] <prince_jammys> norty there is a way but you really dont want to mess with it, trust me
[03:20] <taz> i bough new cd rw  .. then  2	ubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso
[03:20] <taz> (12923 downloads)
[03:20] <norty> ... :\
[03:20] <taz> got it ??
[03:20] <chris062689> Is there a Ubuntu Mobile iso yet??
[03:20] <{Nathan}> What's the command to "start" gnome, kinda like start-kde?
[03:21] <chris062689> {Nathan}: startx
[03:21] <prince_jammys> norty why dont you just remove the menu, and add your own with the stuff you want in it
[03:21] <chater7> hi
[03:21] <{Nathan}> chris062689: I'm in a VNC server
[03:22] <taz> how it work with  	ubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso (12923 downloads).. should save or run then burning to cd ??how it work ??
[03:22] <chris062689> ok..
[03:22] <amenado> {Nathan}-> gnome-session &
[03:22] <{Nathan}> amenado: Ah, right. Thanks a ton ^^
[03:24] <talonz> hi guys
[03:25] <Veeger1> chris062689: Mobile.. live cd  or usb  or livecd with persistent mode..  your choice
[03:25] <norty> prince_jammys, how do i add a new menu, i can only seem to get it to be a submenu of applications or system
[03:25] <merinette> there you are. :)
[03:25] <chris062689> hmm
[03:25] <chris062689> LiveCD Persistant Mode?  Whats that
[03:26] <RootyRootRootW00> Hi I have this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gtk/+bug/93396 but they have fixed it. How do I install the patch?
[03:26] <toresn> in fluxbox i have some icons in the tray ... but they will only appear in the workspace i opened them ... how do i make them appear in other workspaces as well?
[03:26] <Veeger1> chris062689: You boot the livdcd, but all changes are held on a usb stick...
[03:27] <chris062689> hmm
[03:27] <merinette> Anyone want to have a shot at my audio problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=697139
[03:27] <chris062689> What would be best inside a Virtual Machine?
[03:28] <darkcrab> hi merinette
[03:28] <Veeger1> chris062689: You would need to read and decide for yourself
[03:28] <chris062689> Where can I find just a Live CD to test it out
[03:28] <merinette> hi darkcrab :)
[03:28] <chris062689> Without usb saving
[03:28] <darkcrab> download the regular distro version chris
[03:28] <darkcrab> that is a live CD
[03:28] <talonz> can anyone help me get my linux box share internet with my windows box ?
[03:28] <talonz> im a linux noob ;[
[03:29] <sithree> I'm running gutsy with nvidia driver and if I maximize a window, the main area of the window goes black until I restore to a smaller size, any ideas?
[03:29] <thechitowncubs> I am setting up a Samba Domain Controller for my home network and I own the domain name lambrechtsfamily.com
[03:29] <thechitowncubs> what is the right way to name your domain
[03:30] <RootyRootRootW00> sithree: r u running compiz?
[03:30] <sithree> no
 Anyone want to have a shot at my audio problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/show thread.php?t=697139
[03:30] <davidof> Anybody has /boot in a separated partition than /? I need a menu.lst with that configuration
[03:30] <Veeger1> !download | chris062689
[03:30] <ubotu> chris062689: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Gutsy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[03:31] <cycom> davidof: check out gentoo's documentation.
[03:31] <pyrak> if resize and move around my windows and ubuntu partitions, will GRUB get confused?
[03:31] <cycom> davidof: they do that standard.
[03:31] <davidof> cycom, oki, thanks
[03:31] <cycom> pyrak: depends on how much moving you do.
 Anyone want to have a shot at my audio problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/show thread.php?t=697139
[03:32] <RootyRootRootW00> I had a similar problem in compiz. It was caused by the graphics card not being powerful enough (The black window bug). The solution was to have the CPU do the graphical processing (by a compiz setting). Not sure if that will help you (I'm a newb)
[03:32] <pyrak> cycom, right now it's big windows partition (ntfs), and small ext3 with ubuntu
[03:32] <pyrak> cycom, i want to make windows smaller, move ext3 back to fill in the space, and enlarge it to the end of the drive
[03:32] <cycom> pyrak: that should be fine.  as long as the order is the same.
[03:32] <cycom> pyrak: is this a desktop or a laptop?
[03:33] <pyrak> cycom, lappy
[03:33] <asdrubal> brtfs is going rock
[03:33] <Veeger1> merinette: Looks like you just need to install build-essentials   go to alsa and get the 1.0.15 driver and compile it
[03:33] <asdrubal> what do you guys think?
[03:33] <cycom> pyrak: good. :) built-in ups
 Anyone want to have a shot at my audio problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/show thread.php?t=697139
[03:33] <cycom> pyrak: what are you going to use for the resize?
[03:33] <RootyRootRootW00> Hi I have this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gtk/+bug/93396 but they have fixed it. How do I install the patch?
[03:33] <darkcrab> Thank you Veeger
[03:33] <pyrak> cycom, gparted
[03:33] <ol_dude67> what the deb line i need to add to get vmware?
[03:34] <cycom> pyrak: good! It'll work a treat.
[03:34] <darkcrab> She already did that veeger
[03:34] <pyrak> cycom, so i guess i'll use gparted to copy the partitions to an external, then boot from the cd and use gparted to do the moving
[03:34] <Veeger1> merinette: /j #alsa if you need more help.. I dont have my notes handy or I could help more
[03:34] <darkcrab> kk
[03:34] <cycom> pyrak: Backups even?! WOW!
[03:34] <cycom> pyrak: your other option is to use dd or something like that to create an image on the external
[03:35] <cycom> pyrak: that way you don't have to overwrite the external, just create a file.
[03:35] <pyrak> cycom, that might make more sense
[03:35] <pyrak> cycom, console command "dd"?
[03:35] <Veeger1> darkcrab: That page she gave didnt show what I suggested..
[03:35] <Darkness89> hi guys how i can replace initial ubuntu's logo
[03:35] <cycom> pyrak: yeah. read the man page first though
[03:35] <RootyRootRootW00> Hi, how do run CRON? pls
[03:35] <cycom> pyrak: a mistake with dd can mean big problems
[03:35] <pyrak> :/
[03:35] <Veeger1> !usplash
[03:35] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[03:36] <cycom> pyrak: well, a mistake with gparted can mean the same :) It's no worse than that.
[03:36] <merinette> Veeger1: thanks so much. i already did that though, actually, with module-assistant. no dice. i guess i'll try #alsa
[03:36] <cycom> pyrak: just don't confuse input and output files :)
[03:36] <Veeger1> Darkness89: that usplash was for you
[03:36] <Darkness89> thnx ^^
[03:36] <Veeger1> merinette: With module assistant?
[03:36] <pyrak> cycom, i think i might just use gparted then :P
[03:37] <spudraticq> which room has support for compiz?
[03:37] <cycom> pyrak: it's pretty hard to mess up 'dd' if you're careful.
[03:37] <usr13> Wanting to use wall, but cannot get it to bring up a window on the gui desktop.   (Need to set some sort of  cronjob / reminder for my 80 year old mother-in-law to take her breating treatment at 9PM. Any suggestions?)
[03:37] <cycom> dd if=/dev/<drive> of=/path/to/file
[03:37] <kcynice> my computer was restarted when i was installing some software.but i can't re-install the same software again now.How should I resolve such problem?
[03:37] <Veeger1> usr13: YOu want to use wall from effects?  have you installed ccsm?
[03:38] <usr13> She's usually playing games on her Ubuntu desktop about then....
[03:38] <usr13> Veeger1: Don't think so, I'll see.
[03:38] <pyrak> cycom, and the "of" is the destination, and the "if" is the drive to be copied?
[03:38] <cycom> pyrak: precisely.
[03:38] <Veeger1> usr13: It is actually compizconfiguration-settings-manager  somthing close to that
[03:38] <brazilian812> im trying to force install something of a specific version, but synaptic has the option of FOrce Version grayed out.  how can i do it in Terminal?
[03:38] <cycom> pyrak: read the man page, like I said
[03:38] <pyrak> cycom, ok, reading
[03:39] <cycom> pyrak: It has some good examples
[03:39] <ol_dude67> so no one knows the deb line to add to the repos for vmware server.
[03:39] <cycom> pyrak: Sorry, that came out far more rude than I meant it to.
[03:39] <spudraticq> anyone here having a problem getting the cube to work been through it again and again does not work
[03:39] <usr13> Veeger1:  Couldn't find package ccsm
[03:39] <asdrubal> spudraticq, what is the cube
[03:39] <cycom> pyrak: those two were supposed to be one long line :)
[03:39] <Veeger1> spudraticq: not hard..   Do you have ccsm open
[03:39] <prince_jammys> pyrak: output file , input file ---- careful with that command, btw
[03:39] <brazilian812> anyone?
[03:39] <pushpop> is there a way to snmp on ubuntu I want to monitor ubuntu bw with a windows utility?
[03:39] <spudraticq> for compiz
[03:39] <Veeger1> !ccsm
[03:39] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[03:40] <PaPaFD> I have a small internal drive  hdb1 vfat file system that I want to share with other users through Samba.   Right now they only have access rights.  what should the line in fstab look ike to give them read write permissions?
[03:40] <brazilian812> need some help force version-ing software...
[03:40] <spudraticq> did that bot lol
[03:40] <BigDaddy> evening all
[03:40] <BigDaddy> Need some help getting my vista laptop to read shared folders on my Ubuntu box
[03:41] <pyrak> cycom, don't lose any sleep over it :P
[03:41] <cycom> pyrak: XD ok, I feel a bit better now
[03:42] <Veeger1> spudraticq: double click general above accessibility go to desktop   size and enter 4 in the top and 1 1 below that
[03:42] <fingaz> if somebody could answer this question easily for me i'd appreciate it. I have 4 HD in my machine. one had a NTFS partition running windows the other partition is / and swap partitions. The second drive is my /home drive (these 2 drives are SATA)  Drives 3 and 4 are 200G IDE drives. When I installed the system they were /dev/sdc1 and /dev/sdd1 now half the time I boot the machine they mount correctly as those devices the other half of the time they are /d
[03:42] <fingaz> ev/sda and /dev/sdb how do I get them to stay as one
[03:42] <brazilian812> Surely theres someone who wants to help me force install a version
[03:42] <BigDaddy> When ever I am on my vista laptop and I open the network, I can see my ubuntu machine. When I enter my ubuntu username and passwird, it says it cannot connect. It also changes my username to my laptop_machine_name/ubuntu_machine_name
[03:42] <Veeger1> spudraticq: Then ctrl-alt   left mouse button and move mouse
[03:42] <cycom> BigDaddy: samba has a different un/password setup than just your linux login.
[03:43] <cycom> BigDaddy: you can set them the same
[03:43] <prince_jammys> PaPaFD:  blah blah   blah    VFAT uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=000    0  0    <--- if your user id is 1000, check with "echo $UID"
[03:43] <cycom> BigDaddy: as in you can set your samba passwd to your linux password, but this is sent as cleartext IIRC
[03:43] <BigDaddy> cyccom, I have Samba Server Configuration Tool 1.2.50 ... cleartext??
[03:43] <amicrawler> can any body help me
[03:43] <BigDaddy> really?
[03:43] <amicrawler> my system is very slow
[03:43] <cycom> BigDaddy: I think so. Can't remember.
[03:43] <amicrawler> on load
[03:44] <pyrak> cycom, one more thing, can i dd while a partition is mounted?
[03:44] <RootyRootRootW00> Hi I have this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gtk/+bug/93396 but they have fixed it. How do I install the patch?
[03:44] <amicrawler> i have a  intel core2duo
[03:44] <cycom> BigDaddy: in any case, you set your samba passwrd with smbpasswd
[03:44] <cycom> pyrak: I wouldn't suggest it.
[03:44] <PaPaFD>  prince_jammys: thank you
[03:44] <neolith2099> amicrawler: did you check your inistal services
[03:44] <cycom> pyrak: I would say do all the dd stuff from a liveCD
[03:44] <pyrak> ok, i'm booting from livecd then
[03:44] <Veeger1> pyrak: yes you can dd a mounted partition
[03:44] <amicrawler> what are thoes ?
[03:44] <pyrak> meet you on the other side
[03:44] <BigDaddy> cycom: so do I do that in the Ubuntu Users & groups or the Samba configuration?
[03:44] <neolith2099> amicrawler, they are the initial start up processes
[03:44] <brazilian812> isn't force installing a version super easy? maybe someone can help me for just a few minutes?
[03:44] <prince_jammys> PaPaFD: now should be: rwxrwxrwx
[03:44] <cycom> Veeger1: yeah, but what if it gets written to while he's doing the dd?
[03:44] <fingaz> any idea's on making ubuntu detect my drives the same way every time it boots?
[03:44] <amicrawler> where do i find that
[03:45] <neolith2099> amicrawler, most of the default ones are not necessary and lag the boot time
[03:45] <cycom> BigDaddy: smbpasswd is a command line utility. I don't know of a gui way to do this, but I'm sure there is one.
[03:45] <amicrawler> where do i find that
[03:45] <fingaz> it's annoying I've made entries to /etc/fstab and they mount fine when it detects them right but if it's going to make them /dev/sda and sdb is there a way to force them to stay that way
[03:45] <usser> BigDaddy: just do sudo smbpasswd -a username
[03:45] <asdrubal> fingaz, unmount them in nautilus, then go to "my computer" then click on the drive, and select "properties" and I think in there you can select the mount point
[03:46] <BigDaddy> cycom: thanks. I am going to google smbpasswd and go from there
[03:46] <cycom> fingaz: I'd say mount them by uuid too.
[03:46] <usser> BigDaddy: and type in the exact same credentials u did when u installed ubuntu
[03:46] <cycom> BigDaddy: Good luck mate!
[03:46] <Veeger1> cycom: You can see the wiki for detailed info on that.. I dont have it handy
[03:46] <fingaz> I can mount them fine it's how ubuntu detects them
[03:46] <brazilian812> its a very basic thing.  im sure someone can just tell me how to force install a specific version of software and i can leave
[03:46] <neolith2099> amicrawler: try sysv-rc-conf
[03:46] <fingaz> half the time I fdisk -a and they are labeled one way then sometimes the other
[03:47] <BigDaddy> cycom: do I need to reboot or restart samba?
[03:47] <prince_jammys> fingaz mmmm, ask around but you could try identifying them in fstab by UUID instead of /dev/blah
[03:47] <cycom> BigDaddy: I don't think so.  Maybe restart samba
[03:47] <fingaz> oh I see what your saying
[03:47] <cycom> BigDaddy: /etc/init.d/samba restart I think.
[03:48] <fingaz> never used uuid
[03:48] <wahyuu> I cant boot my ubuntu, cause I got power terminated while updating kernel, the error msg Kernel panic - VFS: Unable to mount root fs on uknown-block(0,0). how can i fix it? thx
[03:48] <fingaz> before. Pretty long number like a mac address
[03:48] <amicrawler> neo do not have it installed
[03:48] <prince_jammys> fingaz: try ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[03:48] <neolith2099> amicrawler: this will help clear things up for you. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto
[03:48] <jack-desktop> how can i find out what CPU0 and CPU1 is?
[03:49] <r007niX> essa sala tem brasileiros
[03:49] <prince_jammys> fingaz: sample fstab line::: UUID=3b2d147d-9dc7-4bf1-9105-64c7597403e8 /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[03:49] <Helvasca> how do I find the status of a device
[03:49] <Helvasca> what sort of probe do i use?
[03:49] <LeeKnux> I have Gutsy and have installed the PPTP plugin for network manager several times, but when I click on the network connection manager I never see any VPN options only a "Manual Configuration" option. Any idea on how to fix this?
[03:49] <prince_jammys> fingaz: just changes the first field --- but all this is a guess, by the way
[03:49] <electrofreak> Does anyone here have Ubuntu running on a Santa Rosa MacBook Pro?
[03:49] <neopsyche> what do the three little lines in nautilus file permisisons mean?
[03:50] <cycom> Veeger1: the ubuntu forums disagree btw, they suggest unmounting to prevent corruption in the images.
[03:50] <BigDaddy> cycom: HOTDAMN!
[03:50] <cycom> BigDaddy: it worked?
[03:50] <BigDaddy> Thanksman
[03:50] <fingaz> with / being the mount point
[03:50] <cycom> BigDaddy: my pleasure :)
[03:50] <BigDaddy> cycom: yes. perfect man
[03:50] <mortuis99> WOW is UBUNTU supposed to be so slow and lock your computer up al the time?
[03:50] <cycom> BigDaddy: cool beans!  Enjoy :)
[03:50] <prince_jammys> fingaz: yes, none of that is any different --- only the first field
[03:50] <fingaz> I think I can figure that out
[03:50] <mortuis99> this is worse than MS
[03:50] <cycom> mortuis99: PEBKAC.
[03:50] <jack-desktop> should my swap always be at 0?
[03:50] <BigDaddy> mortuis99: elaborate
[03:51] <neolith2099> amicrawler: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491
[03:51] <fingaz> weird though the OS won't give them the same device name each time I boot. Making it a pain really
[03:51] <mortuis99> i cant rune more than 1 app or it locks up. when i try and load a web page it locks up etc
[03:51] <LeeKnux> Anyone know why I'm not getting the VPN options for Network Manager, even after install the PPTP plugins and restarting?
[03:51] <neolith2099> amicrawler: follow that guide and you will be up and running in no time =)
[03:51] <amicrawler> ok
[03:52] <cycom> mortuis99: how did you run the setup?
[03:52] <prince_jammys> fingaz: check your fstab first if you havent, they might be that way already :)
[03:52] <amicrawler> in red means not needed and green means needed
[03:52] <mortuis99> are there memory set up options i am missing
[03:52] <fingaz> I made the entries for them in fstab
[03:52] <prince_jammys> prince_jammys: ok
[03:52] <mortuis99> from an ISO i DLed from www.ubuntu.com
[03:52] <fingaz> they weren't plugged in when I installed the OS
[03:53] <cycom> mortuis99: what kind of machine?
[03:53] <Helvasca> How do I find the status of a device?
[03:53] <cycom> mortuis99: and does dmesg say anything of interest?
[03:53] <electrofreak> Does anyone here have Ubuntu running on a Santa Rosa MacBook Pro?
[03:53] <Thedjatclubrock> Can I get some help
[03:53] <usser> Helvasca: of what device?
[03:53] <prince_jammys> fingaz: well, it's worth a shot --just comment out the old lines and try cut pasting the copies with the UUID
[03:53] <Helvasca> usser: its a dvb card
[03:53] <mortuis99> it is one i built not a dell
[03:53] <BigDaddy> mortuis99: that is not normal performance for *buntu
[03:53] <fingaz> yea see if it works
[03:53] <mortuis99> was running FF and went to GG and it started
[03:53] <BigDaddy> what version of Windows did you come from?
[03:53] <arooni> how do i find the file blacklist.rb in a directory (i know its in this directory or a subdirectory)... i tried:  find blacklist.rb .  .... and it started returning all these files that aren't the one i care about
[03:53] <Helvasca> usser: dmesg and grep/
[03:54] <usser> Helvasca: lspci | grep
[03:54] <vladimir_> hello i have problem displaying Cyrillic characters, can anyone help?
[03:54] <cycom> mortuis99: what's the output of dmesg? anything about segfaults or anything?
[03:54] <fingaz> I've been using Fedora Core for a few years. Just decided to try ubuntu out.  Little different
[03:54] <Thedjatclubrock> Where can I find the list of gnome startup scripts
[03:54] <prince_jammys> grep what
[03:54] <Thedjatclubrock> Where can I find the list of gnome startup scripts
[03:54] <cycom> mortuis99: also, what are the specifications on the machine?
[03:54] <K4k> erm...ok, so my jump drive I can see in fdisk as /dev/sdc1...how do I mount it?
[03:54] <K4k> do I have to add it to fstab first?
[03:54] <BigDaddy> mortuis99: I am going to leave you in the hands of cycom. he seems to be more knowledgeable than I
[03:55] <hosein> hello
[03:55] <BigDaddy> cycom: thanks again man. That was bugging the heck out of me.
[03:55] <prince_jammys> K4k: if you add an fstab entry, they will be auto mounted every time
[03:55] <cycom> BigDaddy: no problem mate! glad to help out :)
[03:55] <etarip> how do i change file permissions in terminal?
[03:55] <Helvasca> usser: how would i find out the process thats using it?
[03:55] <hosein> i have a problem on coonecting to internet
[03:55] <K4k> prince_jammys, it's something that doesn't always get mounted though...
[03:55] <Helvasca> etarip: chmod
[03:55] <etarip> thanks Helvasca
[03:55] <mortuis99> umm 2 gigs a mem a 80 gig and a 250 gig HD and a AMD ummmmm (not sure the processor)
[03:55] <K4k> i put it in and take it out a lot
[03:55] <hosein> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.56
[03:55] <hosein> --> Cannot get information for serial port.
[03:55] <hosein> --> Initializing modem.
[03:55] <hosein> --> Sending: ATZ
[03:55] <hosein> ATZ
[03:55] <Thedjatclubrock> Where can I find the list of gnome startup scripts
[03:55] <hosein> OK
[03:55] <FloodBot2> hosein: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:55] <cycom> etarip: chmod, chown. be careful man.
[03:56] <RootyRootRootW00> Hi I have this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gtk/+bug/93396 but they have fixed it. How do I install the patch?
[03:56] <Thedjatclubrock> Where can I find the list of gnome startup scripts
[03:56] <prince_jammys> K4k: oh, well then you dont need them in fstab
[03:56] <Helvasca> etarip: yes very careful
[03:56] <usser> Helvasca: oh i have no idea sorry
[03:56] <K4k> prince_jammys, but sudo mount /dev/sdc1 says I need it there...
[03:56] <Helvasca> cycom: I was just about to say be careful!
[03:56] <mortuis99> FF rean great then GG SUCKS
[03:56] <Thedjatclubrock> Where can I find the list of gnome startup scripts
[03:56] <cycom> Helvasca: :)
[03:56] <mortuis99> ran
[03:56] <fingaz> prince_jammys, AH I see. that's simple enough. Half the entries are already in there that way from the install for my / swap and /home partitions
[03:56] <cycom> Helvasca: One of the guys at work has a simple solution to permission problems on macs.
[03:56] <UncleChevitz> How can I find exactly which version of Apache I'm running?
[03:56] <johansja> is there any place I can tweak to localize ubuntu so that it will shows date, currency, .... format in my country normal format?
[03:56] <Helvasca> usser: thats ok :) teh card was working until after a restart
[03:56] <prince_jammys> K4k: oh that's because you can't mount that way
[03:56] <cycom> Helvasca: chmod -r 777 .
[03:56] <Helvasca> cycom: smash it?
[03:56] <Helvasca> cycom:  lol
[03:56] <Helvasca> cycom: that works :)
[03:57] <K4k> prince_jammys, then can you enlighten me of the ways of mount...lol
[03:57] <jack-desktop> should my swap always be at 0?
[03:57] <cycom> actually, that exact command wouldn't, but that's intentional, lest someone try it :)
[03:57] <hosein> i need help
[03:57] <Thedjatclubrock> Where can I find the list of gnome startup scripts
[03:57] <Helvasca> usser: how do I list all running jobs ?
[03:57] <usser> jack-desktop: what do u mean at 0 as in not used?
[03:57] <prince_jammys> K4k: with that command, /dev/sdc1 is treated as a mount point and expected to be found in fstab
[03:57] <usser> Helvasca: ps -Al
[03:57] <solexious> [q] Can any one help with moblock?
[03:57] <hosein> how can i do now
[03:57] <Kuroachia> I need some help with burning a CD, I know it sounds silly but hear me out. I pop in a blank CD and am prompted with the choices: Ignore, Make Audio CD, Make Data CD. I choose to make a data CD and in returned get "burn:///" I snot a valid location
[03:57] <prince_jammys> K4k: the bad news is i forget how to do it
[03:57] <cycom> mortuis99: you still haven't answered my question about dmesg...
[03:57] <K4k> :'(
[03:57] <darkcrab> Aww, K4k, don't cry.
[03:58] <usser> Helvasca: ps -aux gives more info
[03:58] <K4k> :'(
[03:58] <darkcrab> Aww, K4k, don't cry.
[03:58] <prince_jammys> K4k a quick man mount
[03:58] <K4k> yea
[03:58] <Helvasca> usser: time to kill jobs till i find the one using the card lol
[03:58] <prince_jammys> fingaz: worked?
[03:58] <hosein> hello!
[03:58] <jack-desktop> usser, yes, 0%
[03:58] <Thedjatclubrock> Where can I find the list of gnome startup scripts
[03:58] <mortuis99>  not sure what dmesg is
[03:58] <electrofreak> Does anyone here have Ubuntu running on a Santa Rosa MacBook Pro?
[03:58] <prince_jammys> K4k: the standard format might do ya
[03:59] <UncleChevitz> Isn't the swap partition used as virtual memory?
[03:59] <Starnestommy> Thedjatclubrock: I think gnome-session reads /usr/share/gnome/default.session or ~/.gnome2/session
[03:59] <fingaz> prince_jammys, changing the entries now
[03:59] <usser> jack-desktop: its a good thing really... means u have enough memory
[03:59] <cycom> mortuis99: fire up a terminal
[03:59] <usser> jack-desktop: its only gonna start swapping if u run out of it
[03:59] <neolith2099> amicrawler: read through it carfully..when in doubt..leave it alone
[03:59] <K4k> prince_jammys, what is the standard format?
[03:59] <jack-desktop> usser, k, i have 3gb of ram, so I guess it is a good thing.
[03:59] <cycom> mortuis99: dmesg tells you the output of the kernel
[03:59] <cycom> mortuis99: so once oyu have that terminal open, type dmesg
[03:59] <prince_jammys> K4k:    mount -t type device mount-point
[03:59] <Kuroachia> I need some help with burning a CD, I know it sounds silly but hear me out. I pop in a blank CD and am prompted with the choices: Ignore, Make Audio CD, Make Data CD. I choose to make a data CD and in returned get "burn:///" Is not a valid location? Anyone?
[04:00] <K4k> prince_jammys, ok
[04:00] <neolith2099> amicrawler: for the most part you will be ok following the guide
[04:00] <usser> Kuroachia: sudo apt-get install k3b and use it instead of gnome built in one
[04:00] <usser> Kuroachia: u'll find it to be alot like nero
[04:00] <amicrawler> i run ubuntu on a mac mini
[04:00] <prince_jammys> sudo, of course, and make the directory where it will  be mounted
[04:00] <UncleChevitz> Anybody know the command to check which version of Apache I'm running, services just says 2, but I want a more specific answer
[04:00] <cycom> mortuis99: anything?
[04:00] <hosein> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.56
[04:00] <hosein> --> Cannot get information for serial port.
[04:00] <Docfxit> How can I figure out the what the device name is for my floppy drive. It's not fd0 I tried that.
[04:00] <hosein> --> Initializing modem.
[04:00] <hosein> --> Sending: ATZ
[04:00] <hosein> ATZ
[04:00] <hosein> OK
[04:00] <Helvasca> usser: it looks like it was mythbackend :-/
[04:00] <hosein> --> Modem initialized.
[04:01] <hosein> --> Sending: ATDT9712010
[04:01] <hosein> --> Waiting for carrier.
[04:01] <usser> UncleChevitz: apache2 -v
[04:01] <mortuis99> multiple lines like     [125432.279981] atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e001 <keycode>' to make it known.
[04:01] <hosein> ATDT9712010
[04:01] <hosein> NO CARRIER
[04:01] <fingaz> prince_jammys, uh having a brain fart what's the command to re-run or init fstab
[04:01] <hosein> ERROR
[04:01] <hosein> --> No Carrier!  Trying again.
[04:01] <hosein> --> Sending: ATDT9712010
[04:01] <hosein> --> Waiting for carrier.
[04:01] <hosein> ATDT9712010
[04:01] <neolith2099> amicrawler: i bet you biggest slow up is readahead
[04:01] <hosein> NO CARRIER
[04:01] <hosein> ERROR
[04:01] <Helvasca> !op
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[04:01] <Kuroachia> usser: Thanks I'll try that. It's not neccesarily that I need a GUI to do this... I just wondering why the auto prompt is stearing me in the wrong direction you know?
[04:01] <amicrawler> they are x'ed
[04:01] <prince_jammys> fingaz don't need to ,, just umount /path/to/partition and then mount /path/blah  ...both sudo
[04:02] <amicrawler> readahead and $
[04:02] <fingaz> oh I can mount them fine that's not a problem
[04:02] <fingaz> I just want them to mount on their own when I boot.
[04:02] <prince_jammys> fingaz: it's having them detected
[04:02] <pocketdrummer> Does anyone know how well an ATI x800 works with Ubuntu 7.10?
[04:02] <fingaz> I'll test it soon as this download I'm doing is done
[04:02] <prince_jammys> fingaz: right, sorry --- i don't remember either --- man fstab
[04:03] <mortuis99> [125564.604993] atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xd9 on isa0060/serio0).
[04:03] <mortuis99> [125564.605005] atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e059 <keycode>' to make it known.
[04:03] <fingaz> prince_jammys, oh yea detects them fine every time it just assigns them a different dev name each time I boot
[04:03] <lgc> Hi. Is it safe to format an empty chunk of my disk located AFTER my partitions without doing it from a live CD?
[04:03] <mneptok> !paste > mortuis99
[04:03] <prince_jammys> fingaz every time? if so try rebooting and see what happens ..
[04:04] <prince_jammys> fingaz: i wonder if it does that with mine and i don't notice
[04:04] <jay-oh-en> if i have superkaramba installed will it slow down my computer
[04:04] <neolith2099> amicrawler: when you go through a reboot it should be a faster.
[04:04] <fingaz> prince_jammys, the uuid thing will totally fix the problem if it works for me. Then it won't matter if it mounts them /dev/sda or /dev/sdd
[04:04] <mortuis99> mneptok i cant run tooo many things it will lock my machine up
[04:05] <prince_jammys> fingaz: try remounting now before rebooting, to check whether the fstab lines contain error
[04:05] <fingaz> prince_jammys, I'd like to know why it loads them up differently but it's random when and how it's going to do it
[04:05] <hosein> hi
[04:05] <mneptok> mortuis99: that is not the channel's problem. do not paste to the channel.
[04:06] <hosein> ok
[04:06] <mw__> i left it
[04:06] <ryanw> Help! lol. I just changed the default screen on my ubuntu laptop and now it wont boot gnome
[04:06] <hosein> but ihave problem
[04:06] <darkcrab> Can someone please help me with this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=697139
[04:06] <mortuis99> it was 2 lines
[04:06] <mneptok> !paste > hosein
[04:06] <darkcrab> I am at a total loss
[04:06] <pocketdrummer> !ati
[04:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:06] <Cyr4x> i made a new partition
[04:06] <mneptok> mortuis99: you *really* don't want to argue with me about this.
[04:06] <Cyr4x> i left it whole i needed a working system
[04:07] <ryanw> anyone know how to change the default screen by command line?
[04:07] <hosein> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.56
[04:07] <hosein> --> Cannot get information for serial port.
[04:07] <hosein> --> Initializing modem.
[04:07] <hosein> --> Sending: ATZ
[04:07] <hosein> ATZ
[04:07] <hosein> OK
[04:07] <FloodBot3> hosein: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:07] <Cyr4x> how to set it as home in fstab now
[04:07] <Cyr4x> it's still /dev/hda6 as in fstab but doesn't work
[04:07] <Marfi> how do i burn a .img file in ubuntu?
[04:07] <Cyr4x> probably UUID is not the same
[04:07] <Thedjatclubrock> Can someone help me, GNOME only works fast enough in Fail Safe
[04:08] <Marfi> Thedjatclubrock, how much ram do you have?
[04:08] <prince_jammys> ryanw: it's in /etc/xorg.conf --- you may even have an older backup that *might* work (files named /etc/xorg,conf.1 or .2 and such )
[04:08] <K4k> prince_jammys, I got it to mount, do you know how to setup automount?
[04:08] <Cyr4x> so?
[04:08] <fingaz> prince_jammys, brb see if it works
[04:08] <Thedjatclubrock> Marfi: It used to work, untill this afternoon (can I restore) 512 ram
[04:08] <K4k> similar to what nautilus does, but not with nautilus...
[04:08] <prince_jammys> K4k: fstab you mean?
[04:08] <mortuis99> once i have pasted to the pastbin what do i do?
[04:09] <Cyr4x> i've got a partition at /dev/hda6 how to set up it as /home in fstab?
[04:09] <K4k> prince_jammys, I guess if that's how gnome goes about it
[04:09] <ryanw> prince_jammys, how would i have the backup replace the current one?
[04:09] <Marfi> Thedjatclubrock, could it have been an update?
[04:09] <prince_jammys> K4k: actually you know, i think can put it in fstab and still have it NOT mount automatically with the noauto option
[04:09] <zero88> Ok. Problem: Trying to find driver for wireless network card. Background : I have a Gateway T2080, It uses a realtek wireless driver, its .exe is the D20246-001-001.exe and works perfectly in Vista. Tried solution : I've downloaded ndisgtk and ndiswrapper-common and have gotten the .inf file from the .exe but doesnt seem to work. It tells me hardware not present. The wireless card is on. So, I was wondering if there is any other s
[04:09] <zero88> olution's out there. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks
[04:10] <Thedjatclubrock> Marfi: I also tried to install debian, but I quit it early because I decided it wasn't nesessary
[04:10] <prince_jammys> K4k: i can show you that if you give me:: device (eg /dev/blah) , mount point, type (ntfs,etc), and your UID (do echo $UID)
[04:10] <Marfi> Thedjatclubrock, it may have messed w/ some configs. =/
[04:11] <erich> Does anyone know where or not the new 4gb Creative Zen will work in Ubuntu?
[04:11] <erich> whether*
[04:11] <Thedjatclubrock> Marfi: Can I fix confings (is there a restore feature)
[04:11] <pocketdrummer> !5.1
[04:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 5.1 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:11] <Marfi> Thedjatclubrock, i think theres one if you use the alternative CD. anyone else know for sure?
[04:12] <clinton> Thedjatclubrock: try apt-get --reinstall install <packageName>
[04:12] <pocketdrummer> Does anyone know how to make my on-board 5.1 surround work?
[04:12] <K4k> prince_jammys, device is /dev/sdc1, format is vfat, mount point is /media/disk, $UID=1000
[04:12] <clinton> pocketdrummer: alsamixer
[04:12] <clinton> pocketdrummer: your sound may be muted
[04:13] <Marfi> anyone know how to convert / burn .img files to a cd?
[04:13] <prince_jammys> ryanw: they are text files -- first make a copy of the current one (important in case things go wrong), then cp back_up_file xorg.conf will copy it if you are in the /etc/X11 directory
[04:13] <rsvampire> can anybody help me with this inittab file configuration? I need to know what the problem with it is http://krypton.fhda.edu/~lmeade/inittab_cp.JPG
[04:13] <ryanw> prince_jammys, thanks man i got it now (y)
[04:13] <pocketdrummer> clinton: Yeah, I figured that was it, but I unmuted each and turned them all the way up, but there's no sound from them. :-/
[04:13] <erich> Does anyone know whether or not the new 4gb Creative Zen will work in Ubuntu?
[04:14] <clinton> pocketdrummer: this may sound silly, but you'd be surprised: your speakers are plugged into the correct ports and turned on with the volume up, correct?
[04:14] <ryanw> prince_jammys, alright so before i end up doing this again, is there a way to send svideo out to a tv?
[04:14] <aditsu> hi, is there a page explaining how to update a ubuntu system to fix the vmsplice exploit?
[04:14] <prince_jammys> ryanw don't know
[04:14] <clinton> aditsu: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[04:14] <clinton> aditsu: that will update your system
[04:14] <prince_jammys> K4k: permissions you want?  rwx etc
[04:14] <jay-oh-en> if i have superkaramba installed will it slow down my computer
[04:14] <aditsu> clinton: is that all? and safe to do?
[04:14] <ryanw> prince_jammys, alright thanks man
[04:15] <clinton> aditsu: yes to both :)
[04:15] <aditsu> clinton: thanks
[04:15] <pocketdrummer> clinton: Yeah, I checked that too. Don't worry, I used to work in tech support. No offense taken, lol.
[04:15] <K4k> prince_jammys, yea full permissions
[04:15] <clinton> aditsu: no problem, when it asks for a password, just type in your password
[04:15] <mortuis99> are there performance setting i missed?
[04:15] <usser> jay-oh-en: if its running with lots of widgets then yes, the fact that its just installed doesnt affect the speed in any way
[04:16] <clinton> pocketdrummer: it doesn't hurt to check :) What is your sound card?
[04:16] <jay-oh-en> usser, i meant how many widgets does it take to slow down a computer with good specs
[04:16] <prince_jammys> K4k: /dev/sdc1       /media/disk      vfat    uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=000     0       0   <--- and everyone can rwx   (try after umask=000,noauto and it may not automount)
[04:17] <pocketdrummer> Well, I have an X-Fi, but the drivers for that are still glitchy, so I'm going through the on-board sound on my DFI Lanparty SLI-DR.
[04:17] <K4k> prince_jammys, what do you mean by automount, like mount whenever present or try to mount on boot?
[04:17] <clinton> jay-oh-en: that will vary from computer to computer and depends on which widgets are installed
[04:17] <usser> jay-oh-en: dunno, depends on the widgets too, heaviest i had so far was liquid weather, 4-5 i say, more will slow u down
[04:17] <prince_jammys> K4k: mount every time you boot
[04:17] <Marfi> how do i convert .img to .iso?
[04:17] <krammer> what do i do after this tar -xzf nc110.tgz
[04:17] <krammer>  
[04:17] <rsvampire> can anybody help me with this inittab file configuration? I need to know what the problem with it is http://krypton.fhda.edu/~lmeade/inittab_cp.JPG
[04:17] <K4k> prince_jammys, what happens if it's not present when I boot?
[04:17] <clinton> Marfi: rename it?  Have you tried to burn the .img?
[04:17] <jay-oh-en> usser, alot?
[04:17] <prince_jammys> K4k don't retype -- copy paste it cuz fstab is picky
[04:18] <pocketdrummer> Clinton: forgot to put your name. It says nVidia CK804
[04:18] <Marfi> clinton, yes, and i also tried to mount it
[04:18] <vontux> hi, I am having trouble w/ getting my grub to come back after installing windows
[04:18] <usser> jay-oh-en: a lot?
[04:18] <jay-oh-en> usser, lol dont correct me
[04:18] <joshobrien77> Any one have experiance with an HP 1000 USB Printer?
[04:18] <prince_jammys> K4k: you would mount with just        sudo mount /media/disk
[04:18] <clinton> Marfi: mount it how?
[04:18] <Obama> hey clinton, how's the board of directors of walmart? ;p
[04:18] <jay-oh-en> usser, are there any other programs that are like that but not as graphical
[04:18] <K4k> prince_jammys, o ok that makes sense
[04:18] <K4k> thanks
[04:18] <prince_jammys> K4k: and it would know what to mount there because of fstab
[04:18] <jay-oh-en> usser, kinda like conky
[04:18] <RootyRootRootW00> Hi I have this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gtk/+bug/93396 but they have fixed it. How do I install the patch?
[04:19] <Marfi> sudo mount <nameoffile>.img /media/temp -o loop
[04:19] <usser> jay-oh-en: gdesklets should be faster with ubuntu since its gnome based
[04:19] <krammer> how to install tar ive done this so far tar -xzf nc110.tgz
[04:19] <clinton> pocketdrummer: you might have problems, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/174199
[04:19] <clinton> Obama: what are you talking about?
[04:19] <Marfi> clinton, i remember i ran into this problem once before...and there was a program that i had to download. the name has left me, though
[04:19] <prince_jammys> K4k: try it after you copy the line to see if there's errors by first      sudo umount /media...   and then sudo mount /media/disk
[04:20] <Obama> Clinton: Hilary Clinton was on the board of director's of walmart
[04:20] <pocketdrummer> clinton: Looks like I picked a winner both times, lol. Thanks man
[04:20] <clinton> Marfi: since I don't know what you're trying to do, I don't know if the solution has ever entered me! :)
[04:20] <clinton> pocketdrummer: sorry dude
[04:20] <Spencerical> great...political discussion again
[04:20] <Marfi> clinton, im trying to burn the file. if i can convert it to a .iso to burn it, so be it. =)
[04:20] <clinton> Obama: ah, you need to realize that Clinton is my given name and has no political association to it, henceforth political discussion is unwanted and is also off topic for this channel
[04:20] <Obama> screw politics now
[04:21] <clinton> Marfi: have you tried to use k3b?
[04:21] <Starseed> When is the next release due out for Ubuntu
[04:21] <Starseed> ?
[04:21] <clinton> Starseed: 8.04
[04:21] <Starnestommy> Starseed: I think sometime in April
[04:21] <vontux> Clinton: don't worry, I wasn't that serious :)
[04:21] <Marfi> clinton, i tried gnome baker. let me try it on that computer
[04:21] <Marfi> *flies off for a min*
[04:21] <RootyRootRootW00> Starseed : exactly 6 months from previous release
[04:21] <Starseed> ahh, ok
[04:21] <RootyRootRootW00> Hi I have this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gtk/+bug/93396 but they have fixed it. How do I install the patch?
[04:21] <Starseed> coming up
[04:21] <clinton> RootyRootRootW00: perform updates
[04:22] <vontux> does anyone know about problems w/ loosing their mbr and not being able to get grub to appear after being able to find /boot/grub/stage1?
[04:22] <clinton> RootyRootRootW00: if it's a security risk you may see it sooner than later
[04:22] <K4k> So i still would like to know how gnome recognizes that it's been inserted and automounts it then, any idea how that happens?
[04:22] <clinton> vontux: no, but you may need to "grub-install <harddrive>"
[04:22] <prince_jammys> K4k: scans fstab
[04:22] <prince_jammys> K4k: i doubt it's a gnome thing
[04:22] <talcite_> hey guys, I'm looking for the totem-plparser source code or somewhere to get the 2.21 code.
[04:22] <RootyRootRootW00> clinton - I am fully updated (up to one package which appeared yesterday). Is that the only way?
[04:22] <talcite_> any idea where I can look?
[04:23] <clinton> K4k: it may be a combination of hald and dbus, may be
[04:23] <mortuis99> is this a problem i can fix?
[04:23] <vontux> clinton: do that via the live-cd to the device?
[04:23] <clinton> RootyRootRootW00: with ubuntu yes, unless you want to download the source, manually patch it, and reinstall the compiled version that you patched
[04:23] <prince_jammys> K4k: cant be a gnome thing, will work even with no desktop
[04:23] <vontux> Clinton: so like "grub-install /dev/sdaxxxxx"
[04:23] <clinton> vontux: I would recommended chroot'ing into your install and doing it that way
[04:23] <neopsyche> I need to modify permissions on some folders but am having some difficulty, could someone help me?
[04:23] <clinton> vontux: yes
[04:23] <clinton> neopsyche: which folders?
[04:23] <usser> neopsyche: whats the problem?
[04:24] <RootyRootRootW00> clinton: Thanks but i"m too much of a newb to compile w/out a walkthru
[04:24] <clinton> vontux: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575  should help you to get started on chroot'ing
[04:24] <clinton> RootyRootRootW00: you might have to wait on the next release then
[04:24] <vontux> clinton: thankyou :)
[04:24] <clinton> vontux: np
[04:24] <prince_jammys> neopsyche: what do you need them to be (for yourself, for your group, and for everyone else)?
[04:24] <clearzen> I'm trying to use my tv out on a nvidia card. It is giving me this error unable to find display devices for screen 1 (my tv). Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
[04:24] <K4k> prince_jammys,[mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[04:25] <RootyRootRootW00> clinton damn. thanks anyways
[04:25] <clinton> RootyRootRootW00: which package is it, anyway?
[04:25] <neopsyche> clinton: the folders are in var/www I need to modify the permissions to be correct for the joomla installation I am using as well as allow the web browser to play videos from the folder "videos" on the server using the allvideos mambot plugin.
[04:25] <prince_jammys> K4k: yes put a blank line at the end --- picky fstab, forgot to mention
[04:25] <K4k> k
[04:25] <neopsyche> usser: please see above comment to clinton
[04:25] <clinton> neopsyche: does your joomla documentation describe how to do this?
[04:25] <K4k> prince_jammys, works now thanks
[04:26] <clinton> neopsyche: if this is somethign joomla requires, it should be documented
[04:26] <RootyRootRootW00> clinton: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gtk/+bug/93396
[04:26] <neopsyche> prince_jammys: I need certain files to be accessable only by the joomla installation.. some files need to be accessable to be played in the browser like videos.
[04:26] <neopsyche> clinton: im not sure if the joomla documentation covers this
[04:26] <Talcite> does anyone know how the Ubuntu repo structure is like? I'm looking for development/testing packages
[04:26] <Talcite> is there an ubuntu repo for that? or should I just grab the source and build myself?
[04:26] <prince_jammys> neopsyche: mmm server permissions, i thought it was simple file permissions
[04:26] <clinton> RootyRootRootW00: doesn't look like a security issue, you may or may not see it before april, likely not
[04:26] <neopsyche> clinton: i think this is a more specific problem relating to the allvideos plugin.
[04:27] <clinton> Talcite: go to #ubuntu+1
[04:27] <neopsyche> prince_jammys: the apache server is on my ubuntu box.
[04:27] <prince_jammys> K4k: did you try the noauto?  it would come at the end in that comma separated list
[04:27] <clinton> neopsyche: I'm not familiar enough with the requirements and therefore don't want to give you the wrong advice, sorry
[04:27] <Talcite> clinton: I'm not looking for hardy stuff though. I need debs compiled for gutsy
[04:27] <K4k> yea I did that, but I haven't rebooted yet so I don't know if it worked or not, but I saw another line with it so I assume it does
[04:27] <Jordan> does the server version of ubuntu install a gui
[04:27] <Marfi> clinton, k3b did not work for the .img file
[04:27] <zero88> Ok. Problem: Trying to find driver for wireless network card. Background : I have a Gateway T2080, It uses a realtek wireless driver, its .exe is the D20246-001-001.exe and works perfectly in Vista. Tried solution : I've downloaded ndisgtk and ndiswrapper-common and have gotten the .inf file from the .exe but doesnt seem to work. It tells me hardware not present. The wireless card is on. So, I was wondering if there is any other s
[04:27] <zero88> olution's out there. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks
[04:27] <HinHin> hmm... what are you looking for?
[04:27] <HinHin> apache?
[04:28] <RootyRootRootW00> clinton: thanks at least I know where I stand. Am DISAPPOINTED though, but that's life.
[04:28] <Jordan> does the server version of Ubuntu install a GUI?
[04:28] <clinton> RootyRootRootW00: yea.. one day you'll learn enough to try and install what you want exactly how you want it :)
[04:28] <prince_jammys> neopsyche: well if they are just file permissions you need to change, i would just need to know the name of the user and group and what permissions you want ---- but i'm not sure that that's what you need
[04:28] <neopsyche> prince_jammys: what do the three little lines mean in nautilus when trying to switch permissions?
[04:29] <CyanideD> can someone help me with installing the drivers for nvidia
[04:29] <RootyRootRootW00> clinton: That day is coming, soooooooooon (I hope)
[04:29] <clinton> Marfi: check out http://www.cpqlinux.com/cdrw.html  it may give you some insights and direction
[04:29] <Jordan> does the server version of Ubuntu install a GUI?
[04:29] <neopsyche> prince_jammys: here is the problem i am experiencing.. http://forum.joomlaworks.gr/index.php?topic=3045.0
[04:29] <Sonja> how do i burn files on a data cd?
[04:29] <Marfi> clinton, thats with a .iso image. i need a .img
[04:29] <Sonja> halp
[04:29] <clinton> RootyRootRootW00: if you *really* want to get your hands dirty, and I mean truly muddy, learn the workings of Gentoo.  Before you try that tho, at least learn about it first - it took me four attempts over 18 months before I finally got it right
[04:29] <clinton> Marfi: there a .img example
[04:30] <K4k> anyone know of an article that discusses how to minimize the size of a ubuntu installation?
[04:30] <DG19075> Got a ? for you audio folks: I have an SiS AC'97 as my sound card....audio quality is rough and distorted even with Audacity showing the levels well below 0 VU. Any ideas for a better driver, etc?
[04:30] <Marfi> clinton, my bad. =)
[04:30] <Darkmystere> Err i cant get my Wep Key to work in Ubuntu..
[04:30] <clinton> Marfi: ah, here you go: ccd2iso file.img file.iso
[04:30] <chrisn> hi
[04:30] <Jordan> marfi: you can convert a .iso file to a .img file
[04:30] <prince_jammys> neopsyche: i normally do this in command line, but it seems that --- means "doesn't apply" because they are folders
[04:30] <chrisn> firefox is crashing so badly that I have to hard reset
[04:30] <Darkmystere> i put it in and specify hex because i know its hex and it doesnt connect just after a few mins it pops up asking for the key again..
[04:30] <neopsyche> oh
[04:31] <RootyRootRootW00> Gentoo: Then I will look it up. Right now I'm trying to decipher a cron script, with little coding capability. I'll check out Gentoo as a good starting point for this stuff
[04:31] <neopsyche> prince_jammys: could you talk me through it?
[04:31] <Jordan> does the server version of ubuntu install a GUI?
[04:31] <clinton> chrisn: you may need to remove your ~/.mozilla/firefox directory, but I recommend copying your bookmarks file out of there first
[04:31] <O987987> hi all, what is a good dynamic dns client updater for ubuntu?????????
[04:31] <K4k> Jordan, no
[04:31] <Talcite> RootyRootRootW00: clinton: gentoo isn't that bad. I hopped from Ubuntu to gentoo on my laptop after 8 months. You can have it usuable, but to get everything working nicely you'll have to stick with gentoo for awhile, and read alot.
[04:31] <Jordan> k
[04:31] <iter> yeah building everything from scratch sure isn't a waste of time!
[04:31] <Talcite> Jordan: what are you planning to use the server version for?
[04:32] <clinton> Talcite: that's just what I did too.. my problem was trying it for the first time after buying a Dell E521, which wasn't fully supported in the *nix world yet.
[04:32] <RootyRootRootW00> Talcite: So Gentoo is a distro not a language?
[04:32] <prince_jammys> neopsyche: i'm not sure i  can --- i'm reading the link and it seems there's more to it than just changing file permissions
[04:32] <Talcite> iter: my laptop's a 5 year old 1st gen P4 with 512 mb ram. It sure isn't a waste of time when you want every ounce of performance
[04:32] <clinton> iter: your argument is moot for those who know and understand the benefits
[04:32] <Talcite> RootyRootRootW00: yes, its a distro
[04:32] <clinton> Talcite: you got that right, enjoy :)
[04:32] <swuboo> I've been having problems with Nautilus hanging the last day or so since patching Feisty, has anyone else?
[04:32] <Marfi> clinton, <3
[04:33] <iter> sheet I been using BSD since you were knee high to a grasshopper
[04:33] <chrisn> clinton: ok, i'll give it a shot
[04:33] <RootyRootRootW00> Talcite: Ah. Which langauge or software tools should I start to learn on for linux? (As a hobby)
[04:33] <iter> still a waste of time to build normal stuff from source
[04:33] <blazinfire> alright i'm just starting off with ubuntu i'm trying to think of nessasary applications that isn't already installed any idea's??/
[04:33] <DG19075>  Got a ? for you audio folks: I have an SiS AC'97 as my sound card....audio quality is rough and distorted even with Audacity showing the levels well below 0 VU. Any ideas for a better driver, etc?
[04:33] <neopsyche> prince_jammys: thanks
[04:34] <neopsyche> prince_jammys: any help appreciated ;-)
[04:34] <iter> also shouldn't the gentoo discussion really belong in #gentoo? just sayin...
[04:34] <prince_jammys> neopsyche: ok let me get an idea of whats going on
[04:34] <CyanideD> can someone help me with installing the drivers for nvidia
[04:34] <prince_jammys> neopsyche: are you familiar with how unix permissions work?
[04:35] <swuboo> No one's been having problems with Nautlius in Gnome under Feisty?
[04:35] <jpeterman> swuboo I haven't
[04:35] <Talcite> RootyRootRootW00: give C a shot
[04:35] <iter> additionally, I would argue that someone trying to "deciper a cron script" probably shouldn't be encouraged to ditch Ubuntu for gentoo ...
[04:36] <antonio_> hello
[04:36] <RootyRootRootW00> Talcite: Thansk!
[04:36] <jpeterman> Here's a random question, I'm on Gutsy, I've got 8 avi's that I want to combine into one continous video. What's a good program?
[04:36] <Talcite> RootyRootRootW00: bash isn't really programming, but that's pretty useful too
[04:36] <cellofellow> jpeterman: mencoder
[04:36] <iter> lol C
[04:36] <iter> RootyRootRootW00: definitely start with bash scripting
[04:37] <RootyRootRootW00> Talcite: Ah. Am still working thru bash and early cron (tonight). Next Mysql, then I guess C and Gentoo
[04:37] <jpeterman> cellofellow: is mencoder pretty gui-easy?
[04:37] <antonio_> i have a problem on a acer aspire 9420 laptop, regarding integrated webcam, anyone can help me?
[04:37] <jpeterman> cellofellow: i'm kinda a nub
[04:37] <cellofellow> jpeterman: I have yet to find a decent Mencoder GUI for Windows.
[04:37] <cellofellow> jpeterman: I meant Linux. :?
[04:37] <jpeterman> hmm
[04:37] <prince_jammys> RootyRootRootW00: do you have good docs?
[04:37] <jpeterman> do you happent o know of a gui-full program that can do it?
[04:38] <cellofellow> jpeterman: not really
[04:38] <OmegaCenti> prince_jammys: recommend some and I will check them out, I have scoured internets for good resources.
[04:38] <CyanideD> can someone help me with installing the drivers for nvidia
[04:38] <RootyRootRootW00> prince_jammys: I use google and learn as I go. Just NOW I got the Amarok backup script to run ---Finally--- I am full of win tonight
[04:38] <cellofellow> jpeterman: mencoder and other transcoding programs have so many options, it'd be really quite inpossible to make a fully-featured GUI.
[04:39] <prince_jammys> RootyRootRootW00: for starting bash: rutebook  abs-guide <--- both available thru apt .... ultra user friendly (beginner): http://linuxcommand.org
[04:39] <OmegaCenti> Also, sometimes my keyboard just hangs in boxes that need keyboard input sometimes in gnome. Any suggestions?
[04:39] <mortuis91> i installed GG  from FF and am now having performance issues
[04:39] <cellofellow> jpeterman: there is a gui for mencoder called acidrip, but it's only for ripping DVD's to AVI.
[04:39] <mortuis91> can someone help?
[04:39] <prince_jammys> RootyRootRootW00: general linux stuff, huge reference tutorial
[04:39] <jpeterman> hmm. thanks anyways, cellofellow.
[04:39] <OmegaCenti> RootyRootRootW00: I highly recommend rutebook. REAL REALLY recommend it.
[04:39] <neopsyche> Prince_Jammys: im not too familiar with how the permissions work
[04:39] <prince_jammys> RootyRootRootW00: ^rutebook
[04:39] <iter> yah linuxcommand.org is a nice resource
[04:39] <cellofellow> jpeterman: just a second, let me get the options you need. It's not that hard. :)
[04:39] <RootyRootRootW00> prince_jammys: Thanks for the tips, I will use them for sure, rutbook? Am looking it up
[04:40] <fingaz> prince_jammys, Yo got it working. Took a reboot or two but it's working thanks for the tip
[04:40] <prince_jammys> RootyRootRootW00: the first two packages come in both pdf and html, files are stored in /usr/share/doc
[04:40] <ComradeMirror`> hey guys
[04:40] <prince_jammys> fingaz: good
[04:40] <ComradeMirror`> Im in need of some help can anyone assist me?
[04:40] <prince_jammys> neopsyche open a terminal
[04:40] <trend> hello.
[04:41] <fingaz> prince_jammys, now I can have my music and video's again :)
[04:41] <ComradeMirror`> If I want to install windows xp and ubuntu on one drive I have to make partitions right?
[04:41] <etho> right
[04:41] <prince_jammys> neopsyche :   cd /var/www/relevant_folder
[04:41] <Starnestommy> ComradeMirror`: yes
[04:41] <ComradeMirror`> With the ubuntu live cd can I create partitions?
[04:41] <cellofellow> jpeterman: mencoder -oac copy -ovc copy -idx -o outfile.avi infileA.avi infileB.avi
[04:41] <macogw> ComradeMirror`: yss
[04:41] <ComradeMirror`> or do I have to make them before hand
[04:41] <ComradeMirror`> is what I wanted to ask
[04:42] <trend> when I ssh into my box, it takes ~30 seconds or it to log me in... I put UseDNS no  in my sshd_config.. but that doesn't speed things up.. ideas?
[04:42] <cellofellow> jpeterman: that work for you?
[04:42] <prince_jammys> RootyRootRootW00: apt-get::::  mysql-5.0-doc   perl-doc php-doc         (perl-doc a gem)  doc it up
[04:42] <ComradeMirror`> Will the Live CD allow me to create a partition of the drive or will I have to do that before installing?
[04:42] <RootyRootRootW00> prince_jammys: and here was me with synaptic!
[04:42] <iter> ComradeMirror`: boot into the livecd and run gparted to repartition
[04:42] <macogw> ComradeMirror`: yes
[04:43] <ComradeMirror`> it won't mess with my windows partitionn though right?
[04:43] <CyanideD> whats the commands to install java
[04:43] <|twiser|> it allos you ComradeMirror`
[04:43] <ComradeMirror`> okay thanks
[04:43] <Docfxit> I'd like to create a bootable floppy. When I use sudo gurb-install /dev/fd0 I get an error saying /dev/fd0 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive. How can I fix that.
[04:43] <iter> ComradeMirror`: generally speaking, no but repartitioning always carries some risk
[04:43] <prince_jammys> RootyRootRootW00: all html browsable, pdf printable, all stored /usr/share/doc/blahblah find them after install and load into web browser
[04:43] <ComradeMirror`> hmmm
[04:43] <jpeterman> cellofellow, i haven't used it yet, i'm still converting from flv to avi. thanks though! :)
[04:43] <ComradeMirror`> iter what is the worst case?
[04:43] <iter> you lose stuff not backed up
[04:43] <macogw> CyanideD: sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre
[04:43] <ComradeMirror`> hmmm
[04:44] <prince_jammys> neopsyche: i'll be right back
[04:44] <cellofellow> jpeterman: you could do all of that in one command.
[04:44] <ComradeMirror`> I'm willing to take the risk
[04:44] <macogw> CyanideD: thatll get you the java runtime so you can run programs. if you mean to write them get -jdk too
[04:44] <iter> yeah usually it's cool
[04:44] <ComradeMirror`> I recently formatted anyways
[04:44] <|twiser|> i used acronis disc manager
[04:44] <cellofellow> jpeterman: which codec are you using for the AVI's? xvid?
[04:44] <iter> I've used gparted dozens of times w/no prob
[04:44] <ComradeMirror`> it will obviously partition the free space right
[04:44] <ComradeMirror`> even if the free space is part of the current partition
[04:44] <ComradeMirror`> Im sorry I don't really do this often
[04:44] <jpeterman> cellofellow, that's a good question. i'm not sure, i downloaded flv's from youtube and im converting them into avi with whatever codec www.zamzar.com uses
[04:45] <jpeterman> not sure if they even use divx/xvid
[04:45] <iter> you can shrink the current partition, create a new partition, and install to that partition
[04:45] <ComradeMirror`> with the live disk?
[04:45] <ComradeMirror`> or just before hand
[04:45] <iter> yes with the livecd
[04:45] <ComradeMirror`> okay then cool
[04:45] <iter> however.. this will overwrite your mbr
[04:45] <RootyRootRootW00> prince_jammys: installling
[04:45] <ComradeMirror`> mbr?
[04:45] <iter> so know how to fix that should you want the windows mbr back
[04:45] <ComradeMirror`> mbr?
[04:46] <iter> (basically, boot to windows recovery mode from cd and issue fixmbr)
[04:46] <yanger> hi, getting odd messages in dmesg: [531963.792504] printk: 1 messages suppressed. | [531963.792512] MD5 Hash NOT expected but found (71.10.xxx.xx, 1283)->(192.168.0.2, 8990) .. any ideas?
[04:46] <cellofellow> jpeterman: try this script: http://cellofellow.homelinux.net/flv2asp
[04:46] <ComradeMirror`> iter is it hard?
[04:46] <RootyRootRootW00> prince_jammys: Can you tell me why this shell script defaults to my home directory and not to tthe external drive I'm wanting  it to point at?
[04:46] <ComradeMirror`> its just a normal windows install cd right?
[04:46] <jpeterman> hmm im sorry cellofellow i don't understand it. :/
[04:46] <cellofellow> jpeterman: converts flv to avi MPEG4 ASP with two codec choices: ffmpeg or xvid.
[04:46] <iter> yes
[04:46] <jpeterman> oh
[04:47] <ComradeMirror`> and I would boot up this way how?
[04:47] <cellofellow> jpeterman: download it and put it in ~/bin/
[04:47] <iter> not hard, boot from normal windows install cd to recovery console
[04:47] <iter> then run 'fixmbr' (if we are talking about XP)
[04:47] <ComradeMirror`> so what does this fixmbr do?
[04:47] <jpeterman> ok
[04:47] <iter> replaces the MBR you replaced with the default windows mbr
[04:48] <cellofellow> jpeterman: also run chmod +x bin/flv2asp
[04:48] <ComradeMirror`> okay sorry for asking what does MBR do?
[04:48] <ComradeMirror`> does it affect linux if I replace the MBR?
[04:48] <iter> mbr is a pointer to the boot partition on the hard drive
[04:48] <neopsyche> prince_jammeys: ok
[04:48] <ComradeMirror`> ohh
[04:48] <jpeterman> done
[04:48] <iter> well.. think of it that way at least
[04:48] <iter> it's a little more complicated but that's the gist
[04:49] <iter> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mbr
[04:49] <cellofellow> jpeterman: the command syntax for flv2asp is `flv2asp -[xvid|ffpeg] infile.flv`
[04:49] <cellofellow> jpeterman: produces infile.avi
[04:50] <RootyRootRootW00> prince_jammys: I installed rutebook. Am opening it now
[04:50] <ComradeMirror`> it doesn't affect linux though when I do the mbr thing yes?
[04:50] <jpeterman> cellofellow, and just follow yourprevious command to put multiple videos into infile.avi?
[04:50] <iter> yes of course it will
[04:50] <ComradeMirror`> what would it do?
[04:50] <iter> when you install ubuntu to your 2nd partition, you are going to install a boot manger, probably GRUB
[04:50] <cellofellow> jpeterman: yes
[04:50] <neopsyche> please message em
[04:50] <iter> into the MBR
[04:50] <neopsyche> me
[04:50] <cellofellow> jpeterman: you need mencoder to get both of these to work. :)
[04:50] <iter> which will allow you to boot to either windows or ubuntu
[04:50] <neopsyche> anyone
[04:50] <neopsyche> ping
[04:50] <jpeterman> i got it from the repositories
[04:51] <iter> now if you delete ubuntu and want to go back to your original setup you should replace the mbr
[04:51] <iter> with the windows one
[04:51] <neopsyche> what is ubuntu
[04:51] <ComradeMirror`> ah
[04:51] <SasukeUchiha> shut up iter
[04:51] <cellofellow> jpeterman: and LAME MP3 codec and XviD MPEG4 codec.
[04:51] <ComradeMirror`> I can't switch between them?
[04:51] <neopsyche> ubotu: hello
[04:51] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:51] <iter> sorry?
[04:51] <jpeterman> i have Lame...and im pretty sure i have xvid
[04:51] <ComradeMirror`> or is this if I want to totally delete ubuntu
[04:51] <neopsyche> ping
[04:51]  * Glazseesi hugs iter
[04:51] <iter> ComradeMirror`: right
[04:51] <ComradeMirror`> ah
[04:51] <neopsyche> what is ubuntu
[04:51] <RootyRootRootW00> prince_jammys: This book is amazing! It is the intro/ref manual I've been looking for. Thanks /me reads up on ip ...
[04:51] <neopsyche> what is ubuntu
[04:51] <ComradeMirror`> so if I want ubuntu gone I delete it then replace the mbr
[04:51] <neopsyche> hello
[04:51] <iter> exactly
[04:51] <RootyRootRootW00> neopsyche: what do u mean?
[04:52] <Talcite> does anyone know where to obtain the libcamel source? I don't even know where the development happens
[04:52] <ComradeMirror`> okay then
[04:52] <ComradeMirror`> I'll be sure to save this convo
[04:52] <ComradeMirror`> you've been a big help
[04:52] <cellofellow> jpeterman: I know that the command line isn't what you wanted. But video encoding works so much better with the command line.
[04:52] <iter> np :)
[04:52] <neopsyche> thansk rootyrootrootWOO: just testing autocomplete script
[04:52] <RootyRootRootW00> neopsyche: please clarify your question
[04:52] <jpeterman> i know, it just takes some patience for me to figure out. thanks for helping me out
[04:52] <RootyRootRootW00> neopsyche: lol
[04:52] <cellofellow> jpeterman: use this command to join FLV files: mencoder -ovc copy -oac copy -of lavf -idx -o c.flv a.flv b.flv
[04:53] <amicrawle> hey guys  i hosed my services
[04:53] <cellofellow> jpeterman: almost the same as the AVI one, but the -of lavf stuff makes it so it uses the FLV instead of AVI format.
[04:53] <EnsGabe> Heyo- my processor isn't scaling at the moment- I've got the governor set to performance and have the processors loaded, but it's still clocked all the way down
[04:53] <jpeterman> ok
[04:53] <amicrawle> i can;t get back in to my  system  is there a how to  for this to get back to default
[04:53] <pawan> hi
[04:53] <cellofellow> jpeterman: Mencoder doesn't complain about puting FLV encoded video in an AVI file, but most players hate it when you do that.
[04:53] <iter> amicrawle: can you login via ssh ?
[04:54] <pawan> how to repair grub
[04:54] <amicrawle> i'm on my winblowz computer
[04:54] <pawan> installed winxp and lost ubuntu
[04:54] <ComradeMirror`> iter
[04:54] <iter> ?
[04:54] <ComradeMirror`> in your opinon how much space would you partition to ubuntu if you were just going to use for work and maybe movies
[04:54] <iter> how much drive space total do you ahve
[04:55] <pawan> hello
[04:55] <ComradeMirror`> well "poor person is poor" applies to me
[04:55] <ComradeMirror`> xD
[04:55] <ComradeMirror`> I have 13gbs of free space out of 120
[04:55] <iter> ah 5gb then
[04:55] <ComradeMirror`> the 120 being two combined drives
[04:55] <iter> oh
[04:55] <iter> on the drive you're thinking about partitioning, how much space
[04:55] <ComradeMirror`> it wouldn't happen to be possible to make a partition that uses multiple drives
[04:55] <iter> no
[04:56] <ComradeMirror`> one of them has 12free gbs the other has 8
[04:56] <neolith2099> amicrawle, use the recovery cd
[04:56] <ComradeMirror`> I miss read
[04:56] <pawan> how to repair grub
[04:56] <ComradeMirror`> the 12 is the one with my windows on it too
[04:56] <mortuis91> am i still here?
[04:56] <Starnestommy> mortuis91: looks like it
[04:56] <cybergig> Does anybody know if theres a virtual cam application to let other people see my desktop for ubuntu?
[04:56] <mortuis91> heh
[04:56] <ComradeMirror`> I'll probably do 5-6gbs like your original suggestion
[04:56] <mortuis91> thank U
[04:56] <amicrawle> how do i get root  from the shell
[04:57] <mortuis91> :-)
[04:57] <amicrawle> whats the password
[04:57] <ComradeMirror`> the install itself takes 4 gbs right?
[04:57] <Alangara> Question... is it possible to have a website open on start-up on a set desk top?
[04:57] <iter> mmm to be honest I haven't looked recently
[04:57] <CyanideD> can someone help me with installing the drivers for nvidia
[04:57] <neolith2099> amicrawle, it's the same password you use to make system wide changes from your gui
[04:57] <ComradeMirror`> actually I think im gonna go see if I can free up more space
[04:57] <mortuis91> i am having issues after having went from FF to GG
[04:57] <ComradeMirror`> Cause I might want to torrent stuff too. Legal of course.
[04:57] <mortuis91> can someone help me straighten them out?
[04:58] <amicrawle> noe i hosed my  services
[04:58] <cybergig> amicrawle how do you mean, do you mean log in as root
[04:58] <prince_jammys> neopsyche: back
[04:58] <amicrawle> yes
[04:58] <amicrawle> log in as root
[04:58] <Starnestommy> amicrawle: you don't need to.. sudo works perfectly fine for administrative tasks
[04:58] <cybergig> are you an administrator of the computer?
[04:58] <richee> !
[04:58] <iter> amicrawle: issue sudo -s
[04:58] <richee> !bot
[04:58] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:58] <amicrawle> thanx people
[04:59] <amicrawle> i know that
[04:59] <pocketdrummer> !sushi
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sushi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <richee> !ubotu
[04:59] <amicrawle> i can not log into to my user or any
[04:59] <cybergig> go to system > users and groups
[04:59] <pocketdrummer> The bot lies, lol. Sorry, that's my last offtopic for the day.
[04:59] <iter> did you hose /etc/pam* ?
[04:59] <cybergig> you have to set the root password if you just installed
[04:59] <cybergig> or havnt set it yet
[04:59] <amicrawle> yes
[05:00] <sparky> !opengl
[05:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:00] <ComradeMirror`> question
[05:00] <cybermad> my client need to send document with images, but they need to compress the image, how to do that in ubuntu?
[05:00] <ComradeMirror`> will I beable to access NTFS drives
[05:00] <iter> you are probably locked out.. try booting from livecd, mounting your partitions and copying data off
[05:00] <ComradeMirror`> on linux
[05:00] <Starnestommy> ComradeMirror`: with ntfs-3g, yes
[05:00] <ComradeMirror`> is that a program?
[05:00] <mkquist> ComradeMirror`: yes u can
[05:00] <cybermad> is there software that can compress image quality and have feature to compare the result?
[05:00] <iter> then probably a reinstall will be easiest and fastest for you to get back *
[05:00] <cybergig> amicrawle you find it?
[05:01] <rkj> Can someone help me figure out why the commands I have put in my crontab are not executing?
[05:01] <Alangara> does anyone know how to have a website open on ubuntu start up? (but not be the starting website when the browswer is opened
[05:01] <Alangara> ?
[05:01] <iter> rkj: how did you edit crontab
[05:01] <iter> rkj: was it with crontab -e ?
[05:01] <rkj> iter I used crontab -e
[05:01] <amicrawle> can i mount my  partions from live cd ?
[05:01] <cybermad> any help?
[05:01] <neolith2099> amicrawle: did you disable the lvm service?
[05:01] <iter> well.. that sounds good then
[05:01] <mortuis91> ummm i just left the room?
[05:01] <mkquist> Alangara: huh? 'but not the starting website?
[05:01] <amicrawle> nope just what was in the list
[05:02] <iter> rkj: the other thing to check is environment variables
[05:02] <neolith2099> amicrawle: you can try to mount them from a live cd
[05:02] <iter> rkj: cron scripts don't (necessarily) run with your same env
[05:02] <Alangara> i want it to start the website on a spacific desktop without defaulting it as my browsers home page
[05:02] <neolith2099> then try chrooting into you system
[05:02] <toresn> when i open pidgin in a workspace, an icon appears in the tray ... but when i try clicking that icon in another workspace, pidgin opens only in the workspace i initiated it
[05:02] <amicrawle> is there a defalut  service list i can add back
[05:02] <toresn> i would like it to open in the current workspace
[05:02] <rkj> iter I got that idea from the man page, but it doesn't seem I should need any - I put executable commands with the explicit path to them
[05:03] <rkj> iter but I did a test with "echo 'hello world'" and that worked - an internal bash command
[05:03] <iter> rkj: consider writing a shell script and putting it in /etc/cron.daily/ (or the appropriate cron dir)
[05:03] <Alangara> mkquist: i want it to start the website on a spacific desktop without defaulting it as my browsers home page
[05:04] <Alangara> specific *
[05:04] <neopsyche> prince_jammys,wb
[05:04] <neolith2099> amicrawle: here is a details page http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=656866
[05:04] <rkj> iter do those run with my environment?
[05:04] <rkj> iter I can give it a try
[05:04] <CyanideD> can someone help me with installing the drivers for nvidia
[05:05] <iter> rkj: no they don't so be sure to consider env
[05:05] <prince_jammys> neopsyche: hi
[05:05] <pawan> how to repair grub
[05:05] <rkj> iter but one of the command needs to run at exactly 9 pm on wednesdays
[05:05] <Alangara> so any idea?
[05:05] <blazinfire> is there any good download manager's for linux that will actually let me pause and resume downloads if my connection would go down?
[05:05] <iter> rkj: you can pastebin the script or what you have if you want me to look at it
[05:05] <warriorforgod> CyanideD: you need to go to the restricted drivers manager under System --> Administration --> Restricted Drivers Manager
[05:05] <blazinfire> i used getright for windows
[05:05] <chrisn> clinton: firefox is still crashing
[05:05] <rkj> ok, let me see if I can figure out how to do that!
[05:05] <rkj> !pastebin
[05:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:06] <CyanideD> ok its there but how to i access its options so that i can put my desktop on to my tv
[05:06] <prince_jammys> blazinfire: there's a super command line called wget (really good), but i don't know the gui ones (though there are many)
[05:06] <Alangara> !cronjobs
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cronjobs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <chrisn> this is getting really annoying
[05:06] <Alangara> !Cron jobs
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cron jobs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <pawan> ubuntu is installed but not displaying on startup
[05:06] <mkquist> alangra, u could try tweak ubuntu, and just click save sessions settings, just have that page open when u shut down, see if that works
[05:06] <gold44> how to fix master boot record? hda1==win xp, hda2==ubuntu. in win xp i deleted hda2 partition. now no can start xp.
[05:06] <Alangara> can i use cron jobs to open only the website?
[05:06] <prince_jammys> blazinfire: wget will just download page, a file , or an entire web site
[05:07] <mkquist> gold44: just start w/ur windows disk and fixmbr
[05:07] <pawan> ubuntu was installed in my system and then i installed winxp
[05:07] <iter> gold44: lol I just covered this w/someone else.. boot to windows cd, recovery console, run 'fixmbr'
[05:07] <blazinfire> well the one problem i have is my connection will go down every so often for some reason. i just need to make sure i can pick up the download later if i was to get disconnected
[05:07] <mkquist> gold44: but this really isnt #windows
[05:07] <pawan> and after restart it removed the ubuntu entry
[05:07] <pawan> how to reenable it
[05:07] <mkquist> pawan: just reinstall grub
[05:07] <prince_jammys> blazinfire: wget will continue interrupted downloads EVEN AFTER you log out!
[05:07] <amicrawle> say dev/null permissiondenied   what the message sayes when i log in  my user
[05:07] <gold44> mkquist: i was trying bootcfg /rebuild and fixboot command on xp disk. hm... let me try again
[05:07] <Soylent> Hi, does anyone have experience with having to use OSS to hear sound because you have a creative labs extreme audio sound card that alsa doesn't support? I need some help.
[05:07] <blazinfire> ahh cool
[05:07] <CyanideD> Warriorforgod
[05:08] <pawan> how to reinstall grub
[05:08] <pocketdrummer> gold44: You can fix your windows boot loader by booting from the disc, entering repair mode, then typing fixmbr. I'm not sure about grub though
[05:08] <mkquist> gold44 - just use fixmbr or fix boot, see which one does it for you
[05:08]  * neolith2099 reinstalled grub yesterday
[05:08] <iter> pawan: grub-install /dev/hda
[05:08] <amicrawle> say dev/null permissiondenied   what the message sayes when i log in  my user
[05:08] <gold44> iter: yeah, i was going to wipe xp anyway, all data were on backup
[05:08] <iter> gold44: no need it's all there still
[05:08] <pawan> currently i am in winxp
[05:08] <chrisn> what should I do about firefox causing the kernel to crash?
[05:08] <amicrawle> can this be fixed
[05:09] <pawan> can start ubuntu
[05:09] <pawan> cant
[05:09] <prince_jammys> blazinfire: i'm sure there are gui's too -- wget is pretty straight forward unless you have fancy requirements -- it can also download a list of files from a list, etc. all kinds of stuff
[05:09] <iter> pawan: boot to ubuntu livecd
[05:09] <mkquist> pawan: u can just reinstall grub, dont have to reinstall whole o/s
[05:09] <warriorforgod> CyanideD: yes?
[05:09] <Starnestommy> amicrawle: try sudo chmod a+r /dev/null
[05:09] <gold44> mkquist: ok, thanks. i was looking at ubuntu start up disk for a command to fix master boot record. anyway, i have to run upstairs and try that fixmbr
[05:09] <mortuis99> i installed 7.10 and am now having performace issues.  Can someone help me correct them?
[05:09] <Starnestommy> amicrawle: or sudo chmod a+w /dev/null
[05:09] <CyanideD>  ok its there but how to i access its options so that i can put my desktop on to my tv
[05:09] <blazinfire> yea i just messed around with it. i manually disabled the connection and started it back up it works
[05:09] <blazinfire> thanx alot
[05:09] <blazinfire> :)
[05:09] <Alangara> can i make a start iup program open up in a specific browser?
[05:10] <mkquist> gold44: naw, gotta use the windows disc for that one =p
[05:10] <warriorforgod> CyanideD: ahhh.  I see what you are trying to do now.  Just a sec
[05:10] <neolith2099> amicrawle what are the permission settings of /dev/null?
[05:10] <CyanideD> ok
[05:10] <Thedjatclubrock> nj
[05:10] <Thedjatclubrock> j
[05:10] <Thedjatclubrock> oops
[05:11] <neolith2099> amicrawle: $ls -l /dev/null
[05:11] <amicrawle> no idea   when i log in  the shell comes up right away and sayes that
[05:11] <Alangara> start up* sry
[05:11] <rkj> iter I pasted the contents of my crontab but I'm not sure how to direct you to it
[05:11] <warriorforgod> CyanideD: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[05:11] <gold44> mkquist: mandrake 8 or  9 had an option to recover old boot record. it works. i ve tried that before. but i guess ubuntu no more
[05:11] <gold44> thanks everyone
[05:11] <Soylent> Does anyone have experience fixing sound for a creative labs xtreme music card that uses the 20k1 chipset (one alsa doesn't support)?
[05:12] <iter> rkj: copy past the url from your browser location bar
[05:12] <mkquist> gold44: did not know that... interesting.  farely new to linux myself, little redhat, mostly ubuntu
[05:12] <mkquist> !sound
[05:12] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:13] <Alangara> my main reason is i dont know what the command would be to add to the current command
[05:13] <mkquist> Soylent: try the secon page listed
[05:13] <mkquist> *second
[05:13] <rkj> iter, ok I think what you need to know is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56038/
[05:13] <CyanideD> ok installed now how do i get to them
[05:13] <neolith2099> amicrawle, the out put of that command should like this
[05:13] <neolith2099> crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1, 3 2008-02-14 17:40 /dev/null
[05:13] <Alangara> mkquist: i figured out how to have a webpage start on login
[05:13] <mkquist> Alangara: how did you do it?
[05:13] <Soylent> like i said
[05:13] <Soylent> alsa doesn't support my 20k1 chipset
[05:14] <mkquist> Soylent: ic my bad
[05:14] <jordan> Soylent, So are you trying to get OSS working?
[05:14] <Soylent> I have OSS and it made it so sound is audible but I am at a loss when it comes to changing volume
[05:14] <CyanideD> Warrorforgod
[05:14] <neolith2099> amicrawle, with a few other number..but the first part is the important thing
[05:14] <Soylent> The deal is that the volume control has a red circle and an X
[05:14] <iter> rkj: got it... ok does that exact command work when you issue it from the shell ?
[05:15] <amicrawle> neo can you pm me  kind of hard to see all of this
[05:15] <Alangara> mkquist:  System> Preferences > Sessions > start-up programs > Add... >browse for the .url file
[05:15] <Soylent> I can change volume from ossxmix, but I would like a way to set my shortcuts to change the volume
[05:15] <Soylent> (for my media keys)
[05:15] <mkquist> Alangara: nice
[05:15] <Soylent> Sorry, i probably should have given a better description of my problem up front
[05:16] <neolith2099> anybody know of any nice pidgin smiley themes?
[05:16] <rkj> iter yup
[05:16] <Alangara> mkquist: "/home/drake/webpage.url" would be what it shows if you placed it in the document folder
[05:16] <iter> rkj: what are the permissions of the destination directory
[05:16] <gold44> hey hey hey, my windows works!!!
[05:16] <iter> gold44: :)
[05:17] <Alangara> now i just have to figure out how to force it to open in a specific desktop
[05:17] <amicrawle> so how do i get get root permmison
[05:17] <chrisn> Is anyone else having the problem where firefox crashes but also makes the system inoperable?
[05:17] <mkquist> gold44: lol good,good
[05:17] <prince_jammys> amicrawle:  sudo command
[05:17] <neolith2099> amicrawle: su
[05:17] <amicrawle> i can not even log into my user with out
[05:17] <prince_jammys> amicrawle: where command is whatever you want
[05:17] <amicrawle> getting the message
[05:17] <CyanideD> Warrorforgod you there
[05:18] <jordan> Soylent, try ossmix
[05:18] <Soylent> ossxmix?
[05:18] <jordan> Soylent, For changing the volume with OSS, I think that is the OSS mixer
[05:18] <Soylent> Right
[05:18] <iter> rkj: ls -l /home/rkj/mp3/Radio
[05:18] <Soylent> but do you know how I can get my media keys to change the volume?
[05:18] <neolith2099> amicrawle, once you are root the run the ls -l /dev/null command and check to see if permission are setup correctly
[05:19] <Soylent> since the normal volume control isn't working
[05:19] <gold44> is there a service i can run on ubuntu to support PXE? i want to install linux on that computer where i just fixed.  i think my cdrom is bad, so i want to try a network install on my own intranet.
[05:19] <neolith2099> amicrawle, if not then chmod them
[05:19] <rkj> iter according to nautilus - the paernt directory has permissions of "owner can create and delete files, others can access files"
[05:19] <iter> gold44: PXE boot is supported/not bupported by the BIOS
[05:19] <prince_jammys> how did his /dev/null end up with the wrong permissions/owner?
[05:20] <iter> rkj: try setting them to 777 (everyone can do everything)
[05:20] <prince_jammys> that means you don't own nothin
[05:20] <jordan> Soylent, http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/OSS may be helpfull
[05:20] <richee> !ubotu help
[05:20] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:20] <gold44> iter: PXE is supported on that computerB.  computerA is ubunut and has the ubuntu.iso file.
[05:20] <neolith2099> prince_jammys, no clue, but apparently his init scripts got messed up too
[05:20] <Soylent> thanks jordan, i'll read that
[05:20] <iter> chmod -R 777 /home/rkj/mp3/Radio/PianoJazz
[05:21] <CyanideD> !beryl
[05:21] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[05:21] <gold44> iter: i also am using a 10 feet cross over ethernet cable.
[05:21] <CyanideD> !compiz
[05:21] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[05:22] <iter> gold44: ah I see you want your ubuntu machine to act as a pxe-boot server, right?
[05:22] <rkj> ok that makes sense, I'll do that.  Can you help me understand it though? Who owns the process that executes the crontab?
[05:22] <iter> gold44: http://wiki.systemimager.org/index.php/HOWTO_Net_Boot_Ubuntu
[05:22] <gold44> iter: yup. thanks
[05:22] <speaker219> does anyone know where eggdrop is installed to when i use apt-get?? thanks
[05:22] <speaker219> does anyone know where eggdrop is installed to when i use apt-get?*
[05:22] <rkj> iter ok that makes sense, I'll do that.  Can you help me understand it though? Who owns the process that executes the crontab?
[05:23] <dave> speaker219 did you check to see if it was in the man page?
[05:23] <speaker219> dave, no, i'm a noob, and didn't rtfm
[05:24] <prince_jammys> speaker219: you want to find the file eggdrop that you have installed?
[05:24] <amicrawle> tried su and sudo -s  will not let me log past it
[05:24] <speaker219> prince_jammys, i want to find the eggdrop directory that has eggdrop.conf in it etc
[05:25] <speaker219> I checked the man page, not there
[05:25] <prince_jammys> speaker219: try        locate eggdrop
[05:25] <amicrawle> tried su and sudo -s  will not let me log past it
[05:25] <Alangara> ubuntu uses GNOME desktop doesnt it?
[05:26] <dash> howdy. I just upgraded my thinkpad to gutsy from feisty and now X locks up periodically (uses 100% cpu, kill -9 has no effect on it). this is with an ati r300 using the open source driver; using or not using compiz seems to not affect it
[05:26] <CyanideD> how do i install flash drivers
[05:26] <dash> anybody seen this or got ideas on what to try?
[05:26] <dash> Alangara: that's the default, you can install others
[05:26] <iter> rkj: each user has a crontab, whose script run as that user
[05:26] <speaker219> prince_jammys, returned nothing
[05:26] <speeddemon8803> !flash | cyanideD
[05:26] <ubotu> cyanideD: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:26] <prince_jammys> speaker219:       find  /usr -type d -name '*eggdrop*'
[05:26] <rkj> iter also, if I set the MAILTO="..." in the crontab file and set "..." to be my actual (e.g., verizon) email address, will error messages get sent there? I would guess that these commands were generating error messages that just went into a bit bucket.
[05:26] <speaker219> prince_jammys, probably have to upddb
[05:26] <speaker219> ok,thanks
[05:26] <CyanideD> !flash
[05:26] <Soylent> arg my net died again, can i please have that link again jordan?
[05:26] <ahorriblemess> evening everyone
[05:27] <haydnc> does anyone know if there has been any announcement of system requirements for 8.04 other than the alternative install being for systems with under 320Mb RAM?
[05:27] <Soylent> my wireless is another thing I'll need help on after sound hehe :D
[05:27] <speaker219> um
[05:27] <speaker219> prince_jammys
[05:27] <speaker219> server@server:~$ /usr -type d -name '*eggdrop*'
[05:27] <speeddemon8803> If I do a command, you do not have to go right behind me and do the same command, just read what the bot "ubotu" says :)
[05:27] <speaker219> -bash: /usr: is a directory
[05:27] <rkj> iter well if that's the case then why wouldn't my permissions get the job done?
[05:27] <jordan> Soylent, http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/OSS
[05:27] <speeddemon8803> Ok CyanideD?
[05:27] <ahorriblemess> I would like to create a Gutsy installation CD from my current system, including programs, plugins, driver configuration etc. Has anyone used this method? http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu-linux-mint-livecd-with-remastersys
[05:27] <prince_jammys> speaker219: find /usr -name '*eggdrop*'
[05:27] <Soylent> thanks, should i get the OSS binary from the link inside there? or keep the one I already installed? (new to linux, don't understand a darned thing)
[05:28] <iter> rkj: my guess would be environment variables
[05:28] <speaker219> thanks prince_jammys, sorry, i don't use linux too often except for an irc server that i have :p
[05:28] <neolith2099> amicrawle, so when you were working with services you messeup up your /dev/null device?
[05:28] <rkj> iter I mean, if it's running as me, and the permissions give write access to me?
[05:28] <speeddemon8803> CyanideD, did you see what I typed and what ubotu said about the flash plugin?
[05:28] <dash> oh yeah, other question: since upgrading to gutsy i'm getting an error on boot
[05:28] <katyl> am I right in saying that anything in /etc/cron.hourly should run every hour on the hour?
[05:28] <dash> where it says /dev/sda1 is busy and can't be mounted
[05:29] <rkj> iter well anyway, I set the permissions and we will see what happens. thanks for your help.
[05:29] <prince_jammys> speaker219: and find /usr -name 'eggdrop*'   (no * at the beginning)  and if all else fails, the somewhat timeconsuming     sudo find / -name '*eggdrop*'
[05:29] <dash> and it puts me in single user mode
[05:29] <dash> is this an evms bug?
[05:29]  * speeddemon8803 sits back and looks around
[05:29] <iter> rkj: np :)
[05:29] <dash> katyl: /etc/crontab should say when cron.hourly stuff gets run
[05:29] <dave> /usr/share/doc/eggdrop-data/examples/eggdrop.conf.gz
[05:30] <dash> katyl: here it seems to get run at :17'
[05:30] <neopsyche> how can i set all folders in a directory tree to chmod 755
[05:30] <dave> speaker219 /usr/share/doc/eggdrop-data/examples/eggdrop.conf.gz
[05:30] <SuyyBot-6889> ¶Ô´ó¼ÒËµ: wgefygd,vd 
[05:30] <iter> dash: katyl: me as well (gutsy)
[05:30] <zozobra> does deborphan have a history of not being very accurate?
[05:30] <prince_jammys> speaker219: the time you got an error is because "find" is missing at the beginning of the command, so -type d is ok (finds directories only)
[05:30] <bazhang> SuyyBot-6889: english please
[05:30] <sxealex_> anyone know anything about .Xauthority and MIT-MAGIC-COOKIES?
[05:30] <dash> neopsyche: 'chmod -R 755 some_path'
[05:30] <allap> exiyt
[05:30] <allap> exity
[05:31] <speeddemon8803> !en | SuyyBot-6889
[05:31] <ubotu> SuyyBot-6889: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[05:31] <dash> sxealex_: they're magic fun
[05:31] <zozobra> neopsyche: chmod -r 755 *
[05:31] <sxealex_> i disagree
[05:31] <sxealex_> they are not fun
[05:31] <sxealex_> seriously tho
[05:31] <sxealex_> anyone know how to disable them completely
[05:32] <amicrawle> neo yes i did
[05:32] <rkj> ahorriblemess I want to do the same thing, have you tried it?
[05:32] <prince_jammys> sxealex_: i thought were needed to start X session
[05:33] <sxealex_> yes... well you can make it so anyone can start an x session
[05:33] <neolith2099> amicrawle: I dont know what service you could disable to casue that sort of issue..:\
[05:33] <sxealex_> which is insecure
[05:33] <sxealex_> but... i don tneed it to be secure
[05:33] <amicrawle> so how can i get back to the service list from start up
[05:33] <neolith2099> amicrawle, was it a fresh ubuntu install?
[05:33] <amicrawle> no
[05:34] <sxealex_> I had a php script that runs a sudo command and uses the computers display
[05:34] <amicrawle> over 2 years
[05:34] <amicrawle> and been updated
[05:34] <sxealex_> it was working for a bit
[05:34] <sxealex_> then it stopped working
[05:34] <prince_jammys> sxealex_:  and now permissions problem with .Xauthority?
[05:34] <sxealex_> ye
[05:34] <sxealex_> yes
[05:34] <sxealex_> www-data user can open x display
[05:34] <sxealex_> even when i ssh and sudo su www-data
[05:35] <prince_jammys> sxealex_: tried a chmod 666 .Xauthority ?
[05:35] <sxealex_> i cant run stuff on DISPLAY=:0
[05:35] <sxealex_> err i think so...
[05:35] <sxealex_> i copied the .xauth files to every folder
[05:35] <canthony> you php script used the display?
[05:35] <sxealex_> php script runs a bash script that runs a brgram that uses the xdisplay
[05:36] <neolith2099> amicrawle, can you boot into textonly?
[05:36] <speaker219> how do i
[05:36] <canthony> how do you port to end user
[05:36] <prince_jammys> sxealex_: are you that comp now?
[05:36] <speaker219> how do i "un-gz" a file
[05:36] <sxealex_> no...
[05:36] <sxealex_> ssh
[05:36] <iter> speaker219: gzip -d
[05:37] <iter> speaker219: or tar zxf
[05:37] <sxealex_> i modified gdm.conf so it will auto login
[05:37] <iter> (which will handle .tar.gz files)
[05:37] <sxealex_> so i can restart
[05:37] <biltek> where can i get a program that makes a noise wen im near a hotspot?
[05:37] <neopsyche> good video editor for ubuntu?
[05:38] <sxealex_> prince_jammys: why?
[05:38] <prince_jammys> neopsyche: avidemux kdenlive and more
[05:38] <canthony> cinnelerra
[05:39] <prince_jammys> neopsyche: cinelerra is a big one
[05:39] <prince_jammys> sxealex_: so you could check the permissions
[05:39] <blink_> ubotu, hey could you help me?..
[05:39] <sxealex_> yea i can do it on ssh
[05:39] <Starnestommy> blink_: ubotu is a bot
[05:39] <Lartza_> ubotu is a bot
[05:39] <ubotu> Yes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.
[05:39] <prince_jammys> sxealex_: check it out --
[05:40] <ccq> omg ubotu is a bot! my heart is broken!
[05:40] <Soylent> can someone help me understand what to do for the section of this website "Using your multimedia keys with OSS"  http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/OSS please
[05:40] <daurnimator> biltek: kismet
[05:40] <Soylent> I have already made the three scripts, I don't know what to do though since I am new to linux
[05:40] <Soylent> or more like I don't understand what else to do
[05:41] <prince_jammys> Soylent: what kind of scripts?
[05:41] <viktor> hey guys does anyone know of a great screen recorder to use
[05:41] <blink_> master_of_master, sir..could you help me?..i cannot enable desktop effect after i got my sound back...
[05:41] <clearzen> I have a tv that I am using with my computer. But I cannot get the proper resolution on the tv. Could anyone here help me with that?
[05:41] <prince_jammys> viktor: recordmydesktop
[05:41] <katyl> Viktor: istambul works rather well
[05:41] <viktor> where can i find this
[05:41] <Soylent> on that site are scripts dealing with allowing me to control volume with my media keys
[05:41] <prince_jammys> prince_jammys: apt
[05:41] <Soylent> I have followed the instructions but something isn't working right
[05:41] <Lartza_> Soylent: you cant now?
[05:41] <katyl> viktor: sudo apt-get install works on both of those.. or search using the package mangaer
[05:41] <blink_> anyone..plsss..................:(
[05:41] <prince_jammys> Soylent: do they execute?
[05:41] <Lartza_> Soylent: did they previously work?
[05:41] <sxealex_> prince_jammys: if i am running the command sudo .Xauthority needs to be in the root homefolder right?
[05:42] <Lartza_> Soylent: I mean media keys
[05:42] <kent__> is there any hope for enabling a M$ v300 webcam in kopete?
[05:42] <prince_jammys> sxealex_: .Xauthority is not a command, its a config file
[05:42] <Soylent> no no no, because i had to get OSS.. Actually i remember doing something to get them work on my last ubuntu install, but i can't remember what
[05:42] <neopsyche> how can i set all files to have permission 755 in a particular directory tree?
[05:42] <prince_jammys> sxealex_: just ls -l .Xauthority, and paste the line
[05:42] <blink_> _max, max...can you help me?..i cannot enable desktop effect after i got my sound back...
[05:42] <dash> neopsyche: chmod -R 755
[05:42] <sxealex_> prince_jammys:yes...
[05:42] <Lartza_> Soylent: the guide is for archlinux so it doesnt work in ubuntu i think
[05:42] <Soylent> oh, someone gave me that guide ;_;
[05:43] <dash> neopsyche: assuming you mean "from the command line"
[05:43] <prince_jammys> neopsyche: cd the_directory and then chmod -R 755 *
[05:43] <neopsyche> dash,from commandline? im using gnome
[05:43] <daurnimator> how can I make firestarter open in my tray when I boot?
[05:43] <neopsyche> dash,no
[05:43] <Soylent> I guess I need even more help that I thought then
[05:43] <prince_jammys> neopsyche: DONOT chmod until you are in the directory
[05:43] <sxealex_> prince_jammys: i know its there... im saying that does it need to be in the root home folder during a sudo command
[05:43] <dash> neopsyche: ah
[05:43] <Talcite> does anyone know why I'm getting this compile error?  warning: macro `AM_PATH_CHECK' not found in library
[05:43] <[dcr]> Excuse me, is there any way I can possibly get some help playing Guild Wars on Linux?
[05:43] <neopsyche> dash,?
[05:43] <Talcite> I'm building rhythmbox 0.11.4
[05:43] <neopsyche> prince_jammys, what should i do then?>
[05:43] <Talcite> dcr: wine
[05:43] <blink_> Starnestommy, could you help me?..pls...:(
[05:44] <[dcr]> I am using the latest version of Wine
[05:44] <speaker219> Now i can't find where eggdrop logs are stored!!?!?!
[05:44] <[dcr]> I installed it and everything
[05:44] <prince_jammys> sxealex_: i think it has to be in the home directory of whoever is logging into X
[05:44] <dash> neopsyche: right click on the folder, click permissions
[05:44] <[dcr]> But when I go to run the game, it goes to the loading screen, loads 100% than closes, followed by Wine closing
[05:44] <Starnestommy> blink_: maybe.  What do you need help with>
[05:44] <prince_jammys> sxealex_: each user gets one
[05:44] <katyl> speaker219: anything in /var/log?
[05:44] <Talcite> [dcr]: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=9194
[05:44] <Flannel> [dcr]: You might get better help in #winehq
[05:44] <prince_jammys> sxealex_: so /root /home/suzy /home/blah
[05:44] <[dcr]> thanks.
[05:44] <sxealex_> prince_jammys: right but if the command is run as sudo... that is the same as root logging into X
[05:44] <Lartza_> Soylent: go System > Setting  > Key shortcuts
[05:44] <Talcite> that probably has the documentation you need
[05:44] <sxealex_> yea
[05:45] <Lartza_> Soylent: or something like that
[05:45] <Soylent> the shortcuts are set
[05:45] <reza_20> hi any female?
[05:45] <neopsyche> dash,then?
[05:45] <dash> neopsyche: 755 is 'others can read and access folders and files, owner can read and write folders and files'
[05:45] <Soylent> they don't work though
[05:45] <dash> neopsyche: so pick those options
[05:45] <Flannel> !offtopic | reza_20
[05:45] <ubotu> reza_20: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:45] <neopsyche> dash,yes.. how?
[05:45] <viktor> where can i find record my dekstop when finished installing
[05:45] <prince_jammys> sxealex_: ok so try         ls -l /root/.Xauthority
[05:45] <neopsyche> dash,ok
[05:45] <dash> neopsyche: and click 'apply permissions to enclosed files'
[05:45] <JDLimbo> trying to customize my desktop, I want to change just the logoff icon
[05:45] <Soylent> i believe it is because I am forced to use OSS as alsa doesn't support the chipset of my audio card, so the default volume control is not working, lartza
[05:45] <reza_20> hi any girl?
[05:45] <dash> neopsyche: i'm running hardy so I don't know if nautilus looks different here :)
[05:45] <blink_> Starnestommy, my ubuntu cannot enable desktop effect..
[05:46] <Flannel> reza_20: please take it somewhere else
[05:46] <Starnestommy> reza_20: this isn't a social channel.
[05:46] <sxealex_> prince_jammys: -rw-rw-rw- 1 root root 319 2008-02-14 04:02 /root/.Xauthority
[05:46] <neolith2099> neopsyche, just open a terminal and run the command
[05:46] <dash> reza_20: only robots here
[05:46] <prince_jammys> sxealex_: yep, that's 666
[05:46] <reza_20> no problem
[05:46] <Lartza_> Soylent: can you change volume?
[05:46] <Starnestommy> blink_: do you have the appropriate restricted drivers installed for your graphics card?
[05:46] <prince_jammys> sxealex_: beats me
[05:46] <Soylent> not with the default volume controller, I have to use ossxmix
[05:46] <JDLimbo> does anyone here know how to change just individual icons, specifically the logoff/powerdown button?
[05:46] <sxealex_> prince_jammys: is there anyway to shut that stuff off?
[05:47] <reza_20> privet chat?
[05:47] <sxealex_> prince_jammys: i tried xauth + but it didnt help
[05:47] <reza_20> i am prince
[05:47] <prince_jammys> sxealex_: i don't know
[05:47] <Soylent> note that, when I use my media keys, it does show the icon on the screen that is shown when "changing volume" it just doesn't work since I am not able to use the default volume control
[05:47] <nickrud> reza_20: type /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:47] <richee> can anyone help me to put startup scripts when booting ?
[05:47] <Lartza_> Soylent: so you have messed up sound conf on purpose or accidently
[05:47] <richee> how do I do that ?
[05:47] <n2diy> How can I restart/reset a comm port? Every couple of weeks my external modem appears to be busy to Ubuntu. Even when I disconnect  the modem, kppp tells me it is busy, so it seems to be a software issue?
[05:47] <reza_20> ga makhor harum zade
[05:47] <Soylent> I have no messed with sound conf
[05:47] <Soylent> ubuntu did not support my sound card
[05:47] <reza_20> hi oz
[05:47] <Soylent> errr alsa
[05:47] <Soylent> so I had to get OSS
[05:48] <Lartza_> Soylent: ok
[05:48] <reza_20> any iranian girl?
[05:48] <speaker219> Does anybody know where the logs are stored for eggdrop!?
[05:48] <Flannel> !ops | reza_20
[05:48] <nickrud> reza_20: please stop
[05:48] <ubotu> reza_20: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud!
[05:48] <blink_> Starnestommy, i dont know..but i have perfect desktop with sound before i update..it all happen after i update my ubuntu..
[05:48] <Lartza_> so you had reason to change and didnt mess up accidently
[05:48] <JDLimbo> reza_20, you're in the wrong place
[05:48] <GreenByte> Hi all
[05:48] <n2diy> reza_20: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:48] <Soylent> what do you mean by mess up though?
[05:49] <GreenByte> When I try to extract rar files it always says: password required. But I'm sure it got no password
[05:49] <amicrawle> i have home user
[05:49] <Lartza_> Soylent: when you mess up you.. do something wrong and settings change
[05:50] <n2diy> GreenByte: use your regular password.
[05:50] <GreenByte> n2diy: is it normal that I get password?
[05:50] <viktor> recordmydesktop dosnt work any other programs u know of guys to record my screen
[05:50] <Lartza_> i can't find how to get those work with oss
[05:50] <n2diy> GreenByte: yes.
[05:50] <Soylent> well the thing is, I didn't mess up
[05:50] <GreenByte> n2diy: why did they do that? 0.o
[05:50] <Soylent> the volume controls never worked in the first place
[05:50] <chump> hey guys i installed phpmyadmin and i can't get in whats the default passwordfor phpmyadmin on gutsy gibson
[05:51] <Lartza_> Soylent: yes i know
[05:51] <neopsyche> dash,Operation not permitted
[05:51] <vrkhans> hi , I my external hardrive is not mounting automaticacally what should i do.
[05:51] <n2diy> GreenByte: you did it, when you installed, just use your password.
[05:51] <blink_> Starnestommy, help me coz im tommy too...:D
[05:51] <iter> lol reza_20 "I am prince"
[05:51] <Starnestommy> blink_: what kind of graphics card do yuo have?
[05:52] <n2diy> gutsy gibson?
[05:52] <Lartza_> Soylent: I can't treally help since your using oss, maybe try to find guide how to get your sound card work with alsa?
[05:52] <mneptok> iter: the horny iranian formerly known as prince
[05:52] <blink_> Starnestommy, intel express..but i can enable all the effect before update...
[05:52] <vrkhans> my external hardrive is not mounting automaticacally what should i do.
[05:52] <iter> seriously too bad I was afk I would've used that line or something similar
[05:53] <Soylent> alsa does not support the card, period. I have searched about 300 different web results which all say about the same thing
[05:53] <Soylent> it is the 20k1 chipset more specifically than the card
[05:53] <Lartza_> Soylent: well try to start topic on ubuntu forums about multimedia keys on oss?
[05:53] <iter> Soylent: at what point does getting a new card for $10 become worth your time?
[05:53] <Starnestommy> blink_: I don't think I've ever used that particulat graphics card before
[05:53] <n2diy> How can I restart/reset a comm port? Every couple of weeks my external modem appears to be busy to Ubuntu. Even when I disconnect  the modem, kppp tells me it is busy, so it seems to be a software issue?
[05:54] <vrkhans> can any one help me
[05:54] <iter> ah laptop nm
[05:54] <Soylent> my time is worthless
[05:54] <iter> :)
[05:54] <nickrud> Soylent: you should say, priceless
[05:54] <Soylent> no, priceless assumes it has some sort of value, if not monetary =p
[05:54] <n2diy> nickrud: thank you, and right on.
[05:54] <Soylent> worthless is more like it haha
[05:54] <blink_> Starnestommy, but did you ever heard same problem with me?..no sound after update?..adoi...:(
[05:54] <Soylent> insinuates* not assumes
[05:55] <iter> woo 50 cent word on irc
[05:55] <Soylent> no i just used the wrong word before >.>
[05:55] <iter> and I don't mean 'werd to ya moms'
[05:55] <n2diy> Soylent: you lose time, whether you want to or not, make the most of it.
[05:55] <vrkhans> please help me in mounting my external harddrive
[05:56] <Soylent> okay i was just hoping to find help on irc, i suppose I will get more specific help on the forums though
[05:56] <Soylent> thanks for your time lartza
[05:56] <speeddemon8803> Soylent, what kind of help are you looking for? Ubuntu specific or what?
[05:56] <speeddemon8803> nevermind then.
[05:56] <Lartza_> he was trying to get multimedia keys to work
[05:57] <Lartza_> with oss
[05:57] <speeddemon8803> ah
[05:57] <speeddemon8803> nobody could help?
[05:57] <Lartza_> because his sound card doesnt support alsa
[05:57] <badkitty> good evening mates
[05:57] <Lartza_> i didnt and nobody else responded
[05:57] <[dcr]> how do i get sudo rights when looking in the file system?
[05:57] <speeddemon8803> !hi | badkitty
[05:57] <ubotu> badkitty: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:57] <Lartza_> i tried to help
[05:57] <pawan> hi
[05:57] <pawan> how to repair grub
[05:57] <speeddemon8803> !hi | pawan
[05:57] <ubotu> pawan: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:57] <Flannel> !grub | pawan
[05:57] <speeddemon8803> !grub | pawan
[05:57] <ubotu> pawan: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:58] <Flannel> pawan: first link
[05:58] <pawan> windows installation wiped my grub
[05:58] <vampyre2000> Hi there ;-)
[05:58] <ph0rensic> pawan: Its better you install widows first btw
[05:58] <Lartza_> Hi :)
[05:58] <Starnestommy> blink_: I've heard of problems with updates, but have never actually had to fix any outside of a small grub problem
[05:58] <[dcr]> how do i get sudo rights when looking in the file system?
[05:58] <speeddemon8803> Pawan, click the first link of what ubotu just gave you in the room :)
[05:58] <Lartza_> sometimes you cant install windows first
[05:58] <Flannel> [dcr]: What are you trying to look at?
[05:58] <vampyre2000> Hi , I need some help with a sound issue on a X38-ds5 motherboard
[05:58] <pawan> installed windows
[05:58] <iter> [dcr]: open terminal and issue sudo -s for a root shell
[05:58] <kuldipz> kuldip
[05:58] <n2diy> dcr, run sudo nautilus?
[05:59] <vampyre2000> Sound is choppy when playing games, cannot find anything in the logs
[05:59] <speeddemon8803> Pawan, please click the first link of Ubotu's reply to my command.
[05:59] <Lartza_> pawan: how to recover grub > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:59] <Flannel> n2diy, [dcr], gksu nautilus, never sudo
[05:59] <ph0rensic> iter: What's difference between sudo -s and sudo -i ?
[05:59] <blink_> Starnestommy, so where can i ask help?
[05:59] <robvdl> what channel can I talk about packaging debs?
[05:59] <ph0rensic> n2diy: gksudo is for graphical implementations
[05:59] <_nando> Flannel, why never sudo?
[05:59] <SaadS|AboutUsORG> one is for ninjas others for clowns?
[05:59] <Starnestommy> blink_: here or the forums
[05:59] <iter> ph0rensic: -i runs login scripts
[06:00] <n2diy> Flannel, my bad, what about gksudo?
[06:00] <ph0rensic> SaadS|AboutUsORG: Oh ok got it .. clows are -s ..
[06:00] <pawan> i am at grub prompt now
[06:00] <Lartza_> pawan: what is the problem?
[06:00] <Flannel> n2diy: gksudo and gksu are equivalent (now), so yes, that's fine.
[06:00] <n2diy> ph0rensic: roger.
[06:00] <ph0rensic> n2diy: Over and out.
[06:00] <pawan> not getting the ubuntu option on startup
[06:00] <ComradeMirror`> hey
[06:00] <Lartza_> pawan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:00] <n2diy> Flannel: roger, been awhile since I've been here.
[06:01] <SaadS|AboutUsORG> my questions is, my DVI display is cut in half, like the right half of the screen has moved to the left and there is a break in the middle
[06:01] <n2diy> ph0rensic: QSL?
[06:01] <ComradeMirror`> iter you still here?
[06:01] <GreenByte> n2diy: It still keep asking 'password'  :(
[06:01] <iter> ComradeMirror`: yup
[06:01] <SaadS|AboutUsORG> just did a clean install of 7.10 that is
[06:01] <Flannel> n2diy: no worries, we apprecitae it ;)
[06:01] <ph0rensic> n2diy: ??
[06:01] <iter> for a minute at least I hear the wife brushing her teeth
[06:01] <pawan> grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
[06:01] <pawan>  (hd1,6)
[06:01] <pawan> now
[06:02]  * speeddemon8803 sips my Coca-cola waiting for something i actually can help with.
[06:02] <ComradeMirror`> so how do I partition this sucker?
[06:02] <n2diy> ph0rensic: QSL is the same as Roger. N2DIY is my Ham Radio Call sign, thought you might be a Ham too?
[06:02] <speeddemon8803> !partition | comrademirror
[06:02] <ubotu> comrademirror: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[06:02] <ComradeMirror`> thanks
[06:02] <iter> ComradeMirror`: http://www.howtoforge.com/partitioning_with_gparted
[06:02] <speeddemon8803> THanks iter :)
[06:02] <n2diy> GreenByte: how do you log on without a password?
[06:03] <ph0rensic> n2diy: Oh ha, Not ham.. have been around radios before though
[06:03] <mneptok> ComradeMirror`: dual boot?
[06:03] <[dcr]> Why dont I see my .wine folder? or am i looking into the wrong area?
[06:03] <speeddemon8803> .wine is a hidden folder, do you have show hidden files clicked?
[06:03] <ComradeMirror`> gpart come with ubuntu right
[06:03] <vampyre2000> speeddemon8803, if you are bored you can help me ;-)
[06:03] <ComradeMirror`> mneptok yes
[06:03] <speeddemon8803> right comrademirror :)
[06:03] <Starnestommy> [dcr]: directories beginning with a . are hidden by default
[06:03] <Flannel> [dcr]: You don't need sudo for that, if you'r at the terminal, make sure you use -a, in nautilus, make sure you show hidden files (ctrl-h)
[06:03] <n2diy> ph0rensic: 10-4 :)
[06:03] <GreenByte> n2diy: I'm talking about extracting a .rar File!
[06:03] <mneptok> ComradeMirror`: it's on the LiveCD.
[06:03] <GreenByte> n2diy: Not about logging in
[06:04] <[dcr]> so do in terminal: nautilus -a
[06:04] <[dcr]> ?
[06:04] <speeddemon8803> Vampyre2000 I will try but no promises in success buddy.
[06:04] <ComradeMirror`> speeddemon8803 it comes with in the live cd yes?
[06:04] <speeddemon8803> Yes.
[06:04] <mneptok> ComradeMirror`: dual boot with Windows? how big a drive in total?
[06:04] <Flannel> [dcr]: no.  While in nautilus, hit ctrl-h
[06:04] <speeddemon8803> It does comrademirror.
[06:04] <blink_> Starnestommy, so anyone could help me here..coz when i check on forum..its so hard to understand...
[06:04] <Flannel> [dcr]: and, close the one that's been sudod.
[06:04] <vampyre2000> speeddemon8803, no worries, I wont get my hopes up too much ,
[06:04] <SaadS|AboutUsORG> ok so how accurate is Wanda the Fish?
[06:04] <ComradeMirror`> how would i access this?
[06:04] <ComradeMirror`> I'm reading the article right now
[06:04] <vampyre2000> speeddemon8803, have a sound issue, all works fine, but the sound is sometimes distored
[06:04] <meekolope> !
[06:04] <[dcr]> okay I did the ctrl+h deal
[06:05] <n2diy> GreenByte: I know what your talkinig about, how do you log on to your system without a password? That is the same password you need to extract your file.
[06:05] <[dcr]> and i still do not see .wine
[06:05] <speeddemon8803> Go to system.....administration.....comrade..you should see something about partition
[06:05] <neo> hi to all
[06:05] <meekolope> hey ph0rensic
[06:05] <Flannel> [dcr]: Have you run wine or winecfg yet?
[06:05] <neopsyche> joomla permissions on ubuntu server is confusing can anyone help?
[06:05] <[dcr]> Yes
[06:05] <speeddemon8803> Distorted?
[06:05] <iter> ComradeMirror`: ctrl+f2 -> gparted ?
[06:05] <[dcr]> I've been trying to play Guild Wars
[06:05] <ComradeMirror`> partition editor?
[06:05] <ph0rensic> meekolope: hey
[06:05] <[dcr]> and the people in #winehq havent helped at all
[06:05] <Talcite> has anyone noticed that clicking links in xchat doesn't past over properly to swiftweasel?
[06:05] <ComradeMirror`> yes it says gparted
[06:05] <vampyre2000> speeddemon8803, yeah, like the sound is choppy at times
[06:05] <speeddemon8803> yeah thats it comrade :)
[06:05] <[dcr]> Their just babbling off to themselves
[06:05] <Flannel> [dcr]: what does (in terminal), `ls -al ~ | grep wine` give you?
[06:05] <ComradeMirror`> yeah I've never tried the dual boot before
[06:05] <ph0rensic> meekolope: Whats the good word
[06:05] <iter> ok bedtime gnight
[06:05] <speeddemon8803> choppy...hmm
[06:05] <neo> some times applications take longer to start.......        help required
[06:06] <Talcite> [dcr] .wine is hidden, use ls -A
[06:06] <vampyre2000> speeddemon8803, videos on youtube etc are all fine, but when ever play game  sound is choppy
[06:06] <GreenByte> n2diy: I used the same password!
[06:06] <meekolope> ph0rensic: not much just watched some LOST. now i was gonna hang out and chat for a bit/ do some scripting
[06:06] <Talcite> [dcr] or ctrl+ h if you like gui
[06:06] <[dcr]> says no such file or directory, wtf?
[06:06] <speeddemon8803> Vampyre, all games?
[06:06] <ComradeMirror`> hmmm
[06:06] <Flannel> [dcr]: That definately shouldn't say no file or directory.
[06:06] <[dcr]> I've ran Wine and WineCfg already, I even have GW installed
[06:06] <ComradeMirror`> oh god now time for horrible math
[06:06] <[dcr]> Using Wine..
[06:06] <ComradeMirror`> how much is 7 gbs of space
[06:06] <ComradeMirror`> mbs wise
[06:06] <speeddemon8803> hehe comrade you can do it, :)
[06:06] <vampyre2000> speeddemon8803, yeah, Scorched3d, alien arena and freespace2
[06:06] <GreenByte> n2diy: how do I extract rars as root? :)
[06:06] <Flannel> [dcr]: If that says no file or directory, you have bigger issues.
[06:07] <prince_jammys> [dcr]: you can run wine, but have no .wine?
[06:07] <[dcr]> Like what though?
[06:07] <[dcr]> Apparently so
[06:07] <Flannel> [dcr]: Like ~ is no longer aliased to your home directory
[06:07] <speeddemon8803> 7gb is something like 1024*7
[06:07] <vampyre2000> its a x38-ds5 motherboard, and Nvidia 8600 vid card
[06:07] <Talcite> indeed. are you even running linux? 0.o
[06:07] <prince_jammys> [dcr]: when you go to winecfg ->drives , where does it say your drive c is?
[06:07] <ComradeMirror`> ah
[06:07] <ComradeMirror`> 7168
[06:07] <speeddemon8803> yeah :)
[06:07] <n2diy> GreenByte: run gksudo nautilus
[06:07] <[dcr]> Dude Im completely new to Linux so I have no clue what you're talking about
[06:08] <[dcr]> says C: is in ../drive_c
[06:08] <speeddemon8803> vampyre, im not leaving you just multitasking....
[06:08] <speeddemon8803> heh :)
[06:08] <Flannel> [dcr]: Are you sure `ls -al ~/ | grep wine` gives you no file or directory?
[06:08] <Lartza_> pawan: does grub work now?
[06:08] <vampyre2000> speeddemon8803, no worries dude,
[06:08] <[dcr]> I can take a screenshot if you'd like
[06:08] <Talcite> [dcr], just goto your home directory with the file browser and hit ctrl+h
[06:08] <Flannel> [dcr]: I'd like that, actually.
[06:08] <Talcite> [dcr] and please do
[06:08] <ComradeMirror`> hmm
[06:08] <ComradeMirror`> how do I resize this?
[06:08] <speeddemon8803> as far as your game problem...im not exactly sure what could be the cause...
[06:08] <ComradeMirror`> Im using the Resize/Move thing
[06:09] <prince_jammys> [dcr]:    do -->   locate drive_c
[06:09] <speeddemon8803> Hey can I get some help here?
[06:09] <speeddemon8803> heh
[06:09] <amicrawle> ok got root  now
[06:09] <speeddemon8803> someone take comrade and i can take my buddy vampyre2000?
[06:09] <prince_jammys> [dcr]: screen shot not necessary just copy here
[06:09] <amicrawle> how do fix my user account
[06:09] <[dcr]> Want to know whats weirder?
[06:09] <speeddemon8803> Comrade has partition issues for whomever picks up where i left off.
[06:10] <[dcr]> I just did both the commands agian
[06:10] <ComradeMirror`> hmmm I can only change/resize the windows partition by 8mb
[06:10] <[dcr]> dioni@dioni-laptop:~$ `ls -al ~/ | grep wine`
[06:10] <[dcr]> bash: drwxr-xr-x: command not found
[06:10] <[dcr]> dioni@dioni-laptop:~$ `ls -al ~ | grep wine`
[06:10] <[dcr]> bash: drwxr-xr-x: command not found
[06:10] <[dcr]> dioni@dioni-laptop:~$
[06:10] <FloodBot3> [dcr]: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:10] <prince_jammys> [dcr]: type in terminal ->         locate drive_c
[06:10] <vampyre2000> speeddemon8803,  I have upgraded BIOS, I am now using latest Nvida driver,
[06:10] <ComradeMirror`> I can't reduce the partition >_<
[06:10] <speeddemon8803> !pastebin | [dcr]
[06:10] <ubotu> [dcr]: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:10] <prince_jammys> [dcr]: no quotes, no `
[06:10] <[dcr]> sorry
[06:10] <[dcr]> I figured quotes would be "
[06:10] <Lartza_> [dcr]: drwxr-xr-x is not a command
[06:11] <Flannel> [dcr]: No, ditch the quotes entirely.
[06:11] <n2diy> How can I restart/reset a comm port? Every couple of weeks my external modem appears to be busy to Ubuntu. Even when I disconnect  the modem, kppp tells me it is busy, so it seems to be a software issue?
[06:11] <Lartza_> [dcr] chmod drwxr-xr-x is i think
[06:11] <[dcr]> Yeh
[06:11] <PaTeeLA> hey wll, why would i not be able to do anything on my desktop? and have no icons all of the sudden?  gnome problems?
[06:11] <[dcr]> I wasnt trying those commands Lartza_
[06:11] <speeddemon8803> bios...nvidia upgrade..anything else you did vampyre?
[06:11] <Lartza_> ok
[06:11] <ComradeMirror`> apparently I am unable to resize my window's partitions
[06:11] <[dcr]> dioni@dioni-laptop:~$ ls -al ~/ | grep wine
[06:11] <[dcr]> drwxr-xr-x  4 dioni dioni  4096 2008-02-15 00:07 .wine
[06:11] <prince_jammys> [dcr]:   so its there
[06:11] <Flannel> [dcr]: Exactly.  There's your wine directory.  On the same token, you should be able to see it in nautilus
[06:11] <PaTeeLA> like i cant drag a folder to my desktop anymore?
[06:12] <nexact> hey all, I'm trying to boot Ubuntu on my amd2800 and it's stuck on "Loading hardware drivers..." any idea of how I can fix this ?
[06:12] <PaTeeLA> and the trashcan is gone, as well as home and mounted drives...
[06:12] <chaosrl> does anyone know how to print normal text within a math formatting in LaTeX? for example, units
[06:12] <speeddemon8803> Comrade, windows can be a royal PAIN IN THE MMHMM....when it comes to resizing partitions.
[06:12] <[dcr]> so just run nautilus -a in terminal ?
[06:12] <speeddemon8803> please dont ohmy me guys, i DID in fact censor that :)
[06:12] <ComradeMirror`> so is there anything I can do?
[06:12] <n2diy> nexact: from the live CD?
[06:12] <interceptor> !ru
[06:12] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[06:12] <amicrawle> can any body help me messed up my services in a user
[06:12] <amicrawle> i have root access now
[06:12] <nexact> n2diy, the live cd works perfectly
[06:12] <prince_jammys> [dcr]: what do you want to do?  i was stuck on the fact that you didn't have a .wine
[06:13] <ComradeMirror`> since for my partition with windows on it it displaces no unused space and for the used it displays ---
[06:13] <n2diy> nexact: did the install work, or is that what is failing?
[06:13] <corporeal> anyone else having trouble installing things like language-pack-en-base and language-support-en?
[06:13] <speeddemon8803> Comrade, i have no answer for you..as I have run into the same issue..with no solution myself on my own computer.
[06:13] <[dcr]> My overall goal is to figure out why Wine keeps closing after the 100% loading screen of Guild Wars
[06:13] <ComradeMirror`> dang
[06:13] <[dcr]> and the people in #winehq aren't helping me a bit.
[06:14] <prince_jammys> [dcr]: did you check whether wine can run that properly?
[06:14] <[dcr]> Thats supposed to be the top program that Wine can run, according to winehq.org
[06:14] <ph0rensic> ComradeMirror`: So your having trouble resizing partitions in windows is that it?
[06:14] <speeddemon8803> Sounds like your hard drive has a "physical block" on it..so where you cant physically change partition sizes or whatever.
[06:14] <blink_> anyone...could help me...
[06:14] <speeddemon8803> thanks ph0rensic :)
[06:14] <ComradeMirror`> yeayeah ph0rensic I am
[06:14] <speeddemon8803> Can you pick up where i left off mate?
[06:14] <blink_> odd_ where r u...
[06:15] <ph0rensic> ComradeMirror`: Is it giving you the ol cant pass sector 1024 deal?
[06:15] <speeddemon8803> Have you been following myself and comrade's conversation ph0rensic?
[06:15] <blink_> Starnestommy, he's kinda could not help...
[06:15] <ComradeMirror`> 1024?
[06:15] <ph0rensic> speeddemon8803: Not really
[06:15] <ambar> how can i connect to DC++ ?
[06:15] <nexact> n2diy, sometime it boots up, sometime it just get stuck on loading drivers ..
[06:15] <ComradeMirror`> actually I can increase or decrease more than 8mb
[06:15] <ph0rensic> ComradeMirror`: Well what does it say, what are you trying to use?
[06:15] <speeddemon8803> Have fun mate :)
[06:15] <ComradeMirror`> well basiclly when I try to resize it with gpart it wont change more than 8mb
[06:15]  * speeddemon8803 cant help with that, i tried.
[06:16] <ComradeMirror`> I might just free up space on my other harddrive
[06:16] <n2diy> nexact: are you on a network?
[06:16] <ComradeMirror`> will it still boot up if they're on seperate drives?
[06:16] <ComradeMirror`> it shouldn't matterright
[06:16] <ambar> can anyone please help me to connect to DC++ ?
[06:16] <speeddemon8803> your root partition has to be on your master drive if thats what your trying to ask.
[06:16] <ph0rensic> ComradeMirror`: No it should not matter as long as the drive can be read at boot
[06:16] <nexact> n2diy, yup.. but dhcp is disabled in /etc/network/interfaces ..
[06:17] <[dcr]> brb
[06:17] <Talcite> wow this is pretty ridiculous
[06:17] <n2diy> nexact: ok, but your dhcp could be changing anyway, right?
[06:17] <speeddemon8803> Can I "try" to help you talcite?
[06:17] <speeddemon8803> heh
[06:17] <blink_> hey..help me.......................................
[06:17] <blink_> help me..............
[06:17] <Talcite> I just spent 2 hours trying to build the latest ver of rhythmbox so that I could use the new style plugin and it still doesn't work
[06:17] <blink_> help me..........
[06:17] <HorizonXP> hey, I do I tell apt-get that I just want the package that I specify installed? i.e. don't install the extra pacakges
[06:17] <blink_> help me.......
[06:17] <Talcite> I already patched the code... ugh
[06:18] <ComradeMirror`> I need a new monitor x.x my monitor resized to fit linux
[06:18] <speeddemon8803> !ask | blink_
[06:18] <ubotu> blink_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[06:18] <ComradeMirror`> and now I have to resize it to fit windows
[06:18] <speeddemon8803> !repeat | blink|
[06:18] <ubotu> blink|: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:18] <HorizonXP> !apt-get
[06:18] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[06:18] <blink_> no they just dont want to help me...:(
[06:18] <speeddemon8803> Sure we do
[06:18] <speeddemon8803> you just keep repeating help me without stating your problem..so we cant.
[06:19] <prince_jammys> blink_: what is the question?
[06:19] <neo> HELP NEEDED!!!!!!!!
[06:19] <speeddemon8803> !help | neo
[06:19] <ubotu> neo: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:19] <ph0rensic> !ask
[06:19] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[06:19] <speeddemon8803> !ask | neo
[06:19] <ubotu> neo: please see above
[06:19] <speeddemon8803> heh, this bot is getting MAJOR usage tonight!
[06:20] <HorizonXP> can someone help me tell apt-get that I just want the package that I specify installed? i.e. don't install the extra pacakges
[06:20] <Flannel> HorizonXP: apt-get does just install the package you specify
[06:20] <_nando> neo: are you using feisty fawn?
[06:20] <prince_jammys> HorizonXP: if apt-get wants to install extra stuff, it's because the package you want requires the extra stuff
[06:20] <speeddemon8803> Neo: Please, if you do need help...state the issue you are having. Thanks.
[06:20] <HorizonXP> Flannel: but it tries to install packages to fill the dependencies; I don't want it to, because I installed a new version from source
[06:21] <SuyyBot-6889> ¶Ôprince_jammysËµ: please 
[06:21] <blink_> prince_jammys, i just updated my gnome last nite...after update no sound..then today i try to fix the sound and i get my sound back..but my desktop effect cannot be enable...
[06:21] <Flannel> HorizonXP: Theres a reason they're called dependencies
[06:21] <SuyyBot-6889> ¶Ôprince_jammysËµ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots 
[06:21] <SuyyBot-6889> ¶Ôprince_jammysËµ: (14:18) <ph0rensic> !ask 
[06:21] <SuyyBot-6889> ¶Ôprince_jammysËµ: (14:18) <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-) 
[06:21] <SuyyBot-6889> ¶Ôprince_jammysËµ: (14:18) <speeddemon8803> !ask | neo 
[06:21] <neo> OK       SOMETIMES MY PROGRAMS TAKE LONG TIME TO START    USING GUSTY
[06:21] <FloodBot3> SuyyBot-6889: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:21] <Flannel> !caps | neo
[06:21] <ubotu> neo: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:21] <n2diy> HorizonXP: check the apt-get man page, you can tell it to ingnore dependencies.
[06:21] <HorizonXP> Flannel: yes I know.
[06:21] <neo> ok
[06:21] <Flannel> HorizonXP: You'll need to create dummy packages to satisfy those depends
[06:21] <prince_jammys> HorizonXP: smells like mess
[06:21] <HorizonXP> Flannel: but like I said, I installed it from source
[06:21] <Flannel> HorizonXP: Package management doens't know that.
[06:22] <blink_> prince_jammys, you know?..:(
[06:22] <HorizonXP> Flannel: lol, I realize that. that's what I'm trying to get around!
[06:22] <icesword> how to compress some file to .tar.bz2
[06:22] <Flannel> HorizonXP: Like I said, you need to create dummy packages to satisfy those depends
[06:22] <HorizonXP> n2diy: thanks for the suggestion, that seems to be the term I needed to google.
[06:22] <PaTeeLA> hey all-anyone know why i dont have icons on my desktop and cant put any there? like no trash/home/comp and cant make new ones...
[06:22] <GreenByte> n2diy: I still get: password required when I run as root... How do I use another program for extracting rars?
[06:22] <ripp3r666> PaTeeLA, what window manager are you using?
[06:23] <canthony> haha bots talking to bots
[06:23] <prince_jammys> blink_: did you try #compiz
[06:23] <icesword> how to compress some file to .tar.bz2
[06:23] <n2diy> GreenByte: can you log out, and then log in to this box?
[06:23] <PaTeeLA> gnome, ubuntu default
[06:23] <PaTeeLA> i believe
[06:23] <ripp3r666> hmm
[06:23] <ripp3r666> i've never run into that probelm
[06:23] <ripp3r666> problem*
[06:24] <prince_jammys> blink_: because at the moment no one (including me) knows how to fix that, apparently
[06:24] <nathan__> Cpudan80, greetz
[06:24] <icesword> !tbz2
[06:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tbz2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:24] <blink_> prince_jammys, join them?..
[06:24] <PaTeeLA> ripp3r666: reinstall desktop maybe fix?
[06:24] <GreenByte> n2diy: why restart x?
[06:24] <nickrud> icesword: tar -bcf file.tar.bz2 /path/to/compress
[06:24] <icesword> !tar.bz2
[06:24] <Flannel> icesword: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression#head-8c8cdebc8a9b8160cfc4f071448dc63f4f7783a0
[06:24] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[06:24] <n2diy> GreenByte: can you log out, and then log in to this box?
[06:24] <Cpudan80> nathan__: hi
[06:24] <ripp3r666> PaTeeLA, shouldnt have to come to that
[06:24] <PaTeeLA> ripp3r666: tried enabling in gconf-editor, but no joy
[06:24] <prince_jammys> blink and get ready your video card info
[06:25] <speeddemon8803> Can I request a ban on suvybot as its just a nuisance that isnt going to ask questions, only mirror whats being said back into the channel?
[06:25] <HorizonXP> k, I just did sudo checkinstall. hopefully that'll work.
[06:25] <speeddemon8803> *suyybot
[06:25] <PaTeeLA> _nando: oops im not registered w/this nick hold on
[06:25] <nexact> n2diy, does loading drivers include configuring eth0 ?
[06:26] <n2diy> nexact: if you want to play on a network, yes.
[06:26] <nexact> n2diy, mm okay, how can I prevent it from loading it ? ive checked messages and it seems it keeps trying to get an ip
[06:27] <icesword> nickrud:but i want the best compress,highest compress,how,need i force -9 or something
[06:27] <n2diy> nexact: I haven't been following your thead, please give me more info?
[06:28] <Flannel> speeddemon8803: What are you talking about?
[06:28] <canthony> whats the comand to switch nicks again
[06:28] <nickrud> icesword: hm, I never worry about that, I'm not sure.
[06:28] <Flannel> canthony: /nick [nick] usually
[06:28] <GreenByte> n2diy: help.ubunt says: There are several versions of rar and the newest version, 3.0, is not supported by any free tools. If you store your data in a rar archive, then you will depend on Rarsoft...
[06:28] <canthony> aah
[06:28] <canthony> nick not nickserv
[06:28] <speeddemon8803> SuyyBot-6889....came in..and started repeating what i was saying back into the channel...like....cloning what i was saying.
[06:29] <nexact> n2diy, sometime, my server hangs on "Loading hardware drivers" .. I need to restart it and it comes back, I'm trying to figure why.
[06:29] <icesword> nickrud:i know u are genius,u said u do not worry,what u mean
[06:29] <Flannel> speeddemon8803: oh, that bot is already gone, I wouldnt owrry about it
[06:29] <neo> OK       SOMETIMES MY PROGRAMS TAKE LONG TIME TO START    USING GUSTY
[06:29] <nickrud> icesword: I mean I've been satisfied with the standard compression. I'm not sure what it defaults at with tar
[06:30] <puika> http://lostworlds.lv/go.php?1139637493
[06:30] <speeddemon8803> !caps | neo
[06:30] <ubotu> neo: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:30] <n2diy> nexact: is this a cable or satellite modem?
[06:30] <nexact> n2diy, it's right into my cisco 2950 switch. ;)
[06:30] <n2diy> nexact: is this a cable or satellite modem?
[06:30] <nexact> cable.
[06:31] <icesword> nickrud:yeah,thank u,i want 15%
[06:31] <natlinexnewb> anyone help me with permissions? I have Ubuntu 5.04. I have made a folder that windowsXP CAN see but cant log into. I made a user specifically for using that folder but I dont know how to assign that user so that Windows can login.
[06:31] <icesword> neo:
[06:31] <icesword> ???
[06:31] <speeddemon8803> 5.04?
[06:31] <nickrud> icesword: if you want fine control, you could tar it up then run bzip2 on the tar I guess
[06:31] <n2diy> nexact: I'm guessing your ISP is changind your IP address? So DHCP would help you here. But, I run dial up, so that is all I know about it.
[06:31] <natlinexnewb> hairy hedghog
[06:32] <speeddemon8803> isnt that unsupported now?
[06:32] <monzie> my laptop seems to overheat on Ubuntu 7.10 AMD64
[06:32] <monzie> I am on an Acer Aspire 2920
[06:32] <neopsyche> im having major problems with this issue.. not being able to play videos with allvideos mambot on localhost.
[06:32] <icesword> how much mem
[06:32] <icesword> nickrud:it is,
[06:32] <monzie> Is there a way to manually keep the fan running on at all times?
[06:32] <natlinexnewb> probably. I'm downloading 7.10 atm, but i want to practise the permissions for when i need to do this again. or is it different in 7.10?
[06:33] <icesword> monzie:overheat?how.can use to make meal?
[06:33] <speeddemon8803> i believe its different but im not 100% positive.
[06:33] <monzie> icesword: put on egg on top of it!
[06:33] <speeddemon8803> !overheating | speeddemon8803
[06:33] <n2diy> add some ham too
[06:33] <speeddemon8803> oops....
[06:34] <VanGuard> Hello, i was wondering if someone could explain or give me a link that can explain KDE and Gnome
[06:34] <pawan> how to repair grub
[06:34] <natlinexnewb> VanGuard, I have one. Let me find it
[06:34] <VanGuard> thank you
[06:34] <icesword> hahah
[06:34] <prince_jammys> VanGuard: confused about what they do?
[06:34] <speeddemon8803> !kde | vanguard
[06:35] <n2diy> VanGuard: what do you need to be explained, the are both Xwindow programs.
[06:35] <speeddemon8803> !gnome | vanguard
[06:35] <VanGuard> just wondering what the differnces are
[06:35] <natlinexnewb> VanGuard, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kdegnome
[06:35] <n2diy> VanGuard: sounds like a job for Google?
[06:35] <VanGuard> thank you natlinexnewb
[06:36] <natlinexnewb> VanGuard, no prob :)
[06:36] <natlinexnewb> VanGuard, Might not be the best but it helped me.
[06:36] <ComradeMirror`> oh god
[06:36] <ubotu> vanguard: KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gutsy and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[06:36] <ubotu> vanguard: gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[06:36] <ComradeMirror`> by some sort of magic
[06:36] <ComradeMirror`> of me smashing my computer with my foot
[06:36] <ComradeMirror`> I am able to edit the partition
[06:36] <speeddemon8803> Yikes ubotu is lagging.
[06:36] <icesword> pawan:what is wrong
[06:36] <icesword> pawan:u computer did not boot
[06:36] <icesword> ??
[06:36] <pawan> no
[06:36] <pawan> ubuntu is not booting
[06:37] <pawan> windows is booting
[06:37] <prince_jammys> VanGuard: both are desktop environments that sit on top of everything else in the system, so you can actually install either one.  they are not tied to the system so you can uninstall one and replace with another ... differences are : appearance (different looking buttons/menus and so on) and features (they way you set up things, and what's available in the default programs)
[06:37] <timandtom> Does anyone know where Pidgin saves its chatlogs?
[06:37] <Soylent> is it possible to keep track of a variable in a script? (trying to make a simple volume control script for OSS to be triggered by a shortcut mapper) so far I have /usr/bin/ossmix vmix0-vol $1
[06:38] <icesword> ...
[06:38] <VanGuard> ok ty
[06:38] <Soylent> but i would like $1 to be an offset of a variable the script keeps track of
[06:38] <n2diy> Soylent: what kind of script?
[06:38] <icesword> pawan:do u know grub for dos,u can use it to boot ubuntu
[06:39] <pawan> no
[06:39] <Soylent> im not sure, I have no experience with linux and i am just modifying this one... it starts with... #!/bin/sh
[06:39] <pawan> i have 7.10
[06:39] <icesword> no
[06:39] <Soylent> does that tell you what type of script it is?
[06:39] <icesword> ?
[06:39] <icesword> try google it
[06:39] <pawan> currently i booted from 6.06 livecd
[06:39] <ComradeMirror`> how long should repartitioning take?
[06:39] <speeddemon8803> Comrade, depends on your drive size.
[06:39] <starked> Does anyone here think they can help me get gnome-do running? I had it installed, but then I uninstalled it and tried to compile from source, which didn't work, but now whenever I try to install and run it, it fails with an error about gtk-sharp.  Also, I still can't compile it. Any ideas?
[06:39] <prince_jammys> VanGuard: you can have both installed in your box and that's ok.  Each comes with it's own set of preferred apps, but theyre not mandatory..  Example: gedit is the default gnome text editor, kate is the kde text editor ,,,,, but if you want, you can run kate in gnome,   its just that kde apps work optimally in KDE and the same goes for gnome..
[06:39] <n2diy> Soylent: ok, try the #bash channel, that is a bash script.
[06:39] <neo> programs take longer to start some starts very quickly
[06:39] <Soylent> alrighty thanks
[06:40] <Soylent> is it on the same irc network?
[06:40] <speeddemon8803> Soylent, yes.
[06:40] <Soylent> great thanks :D
[06:40] <Soylent> cya
[06:40] <n2diy> Soylent: yes
[06:40] <icesword> what?u said u windows can boot
[06:40] <icesword> ...
[06:40] <icesword> shit,mirc is responding like a turtle
[06:41] <speeddemon8803> !ohmy | icesword
[06:41] <ubotu> icesword: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[06:41] <pawan> what is grub for DOS
[06:41] <icesword> neo:what program is starting slowly
[06:41] <icesword> !
[06:41] <quaalx> what else could be forcing newly created directories/files to have 755 permissions when every terminal i run umask in tells me 002 (775)
[06:41] <icesword> yeah,sorry
[06:42] <chris062689> I have an urgent question.
[06:42] <chris062689> Is there a log of synaptic package manager?
[06:42] <ComradeMirror`> how long should a 60gb partition being reduced by 8gbs take xD
[06:42] <chris062689> I accidently installed a package, which installed a bunch of other stuff and I don't know what all packages it installed.
[06:42] <Flannel> chris062689: /var/logs/dpkg.log
[06:42] <icesword> pawan:google it
[06:42] <chris062689> I uninstalled ubuntu-moile, but that didn't remove everything else
[06:42] <chris062689> CRAP
[06:42] <chris062689> :(
[06:42] <chris062689> I had those stored in RAM
[06:42] <chris062689> Im on an EeePC, never thought I would need them :(
[06:43] <macogw> chris062689: apt-cache show ubuntu-moil
[06:43] <macogw> chris062689: the dependencies will be listed
[06:43] <Flannel> chris062689: Start removing them, until it wants to remove something that looks important ;)
[06:43] <neo> sometimes firefox   ,image viewers ,some games,editors etc....       at this time everything started to function normally      ,,,,,,    but usually problem is there
[06:43] <Gruelius> how do i view symbolic links in the console?
[06:43] <prince_jammys> quaalx: this happens when you "touch file"?
[06:43] <quaalx> oh
[06:43] <quaalx> hmm
[06:44] <quaalx> it APPEARS to be working properly now
[06:44] <quaalx> i'll keep an eye on it
[06:44] <ComradeMirror`> oh it finished
[06:44] <ComradeMirror`> yays
[06:44] <quaalx> prince_jammys, no its mostly files that deluge creates
[06:44] <chris062689> ungh
[06:44] <prince_jammys> quaalx:  so if you touch blah  -- blah is 775?
[06:47] <peepz> how do i browse my iphone in ubuntu???
[06:47] <nexact> whats the difference between ubuntu 6.06 and 7.10 ?
[06:47] <ph0rensic> nexact: Enough that you should upgrade
[06:48] <meekolope> !ubuntu 7.10
[06:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu 7.10 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <mneptok> !gutsy
[06:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[06:48] <ComradeMirror`> what partition type should I use for linux?
[06:48] <peepz> no support for iphone in ubuntu??
[06:48] <meekolope> thats what i was lookin for
[06:48] <nexact> ive just installed it on my box and I have weird problem.
[06:48] <ComradeMirror`> can I access my linux partition in windows to say throw files in?
[06:48] <meekolope> nexact: what is it?
[06:49] <mneptok> ComradeMirror`: yes
[06:49] <speeddemon8803> comrade, not unless you partition your linux as ntfs
[06:49] <mneptok> ComradeMirror`: http://fs-driver.org
[06:49] <mneptok> speeddemon8803: incorrect. see above. :)
[06:49] <speeddemon8803> or...do what mneptok says :)
[06:49] <ComradeMirror`> can I partition my linux as ntfs x.x?
[06:49] <ph0rensic> ComradeMirror`: You will need a certain tool for windows to see your linux file system
[06:49] <pawan> hi
[06:49] <nexact> meekolope, process isnt launching, having problem to boot it 1 time on 2..
[06:49] <ComradeMirror`> does fat32 work?
[06:49] <mneptok> ComradeMirror`: no.
[06:49] <pawan> what is grub for dos
[06:49] <ComradeMirror`> dang
[06:49] <mneptok> ComradeMirror`: use ext3
[06:49] <pawan> how to repair grub
[06:49] <ComradeMirror`> okay
[06:49] <nexact> now gdm keeps restarting.
[06:49] <mneptok> ComradeMirror`: ext3 is superior to both
[06:49] <speeddemon8803> i forgot, was it ntfs or fat32 :/
[06:49] <Flannel> pawan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:50] <ComradeMirror`> for my "mount point" what should it be?
[06:50] <ph0rensic> ComradeMirror`: I can suggest one if you can find it .. by run time software called....
[06:50] <meekolope> ComradeMirror': i have a fat 32 partition i use as long term storage for both lin/win os's on my system
[06:50] <speeddemon8803> one of the two windows formats can actually be done "without" the 3g program
[06:50] <orbisvicis> anyone here use ytalk .. what doe the auto-invite function do?
[06:50] <ComradeMirror`> should my mount pt be /boot or /window
[06:50] <pawan> how to access ubuntu partition in windows
[06:51] <speeddemon8803> comrademirror, it should be /windows as i believe linux ALSO has a /boot partition
[06:51] <speeddemon8803> or...folder i should say.
[06:51] <mneptok> ComradeMirror`: it should be /
[06:51] <ComradeMirror`> hmm
[06:51] <Flannel> pawan: Follow the instructions on that page.
[06:51] <meekolope> ComradeMirror': are u trying to access a WIN from a LIN, or a LIN from a WIN?
[06:51] <ComradeMirror`> "No root file systme is defined Please correct this from the partitioning menu"
[06:51] <mneptok> ComradeMirror`: / is required
[06:52] <ComradeMirror`> ah
[06:52] <Flannel> ComradeMirror`: You need to go back, delete /, apply, create the (same partition is ok), and reselect it as /
[06:53] <ComradeMirror`> hmm
[06:53] <Flannel> ComradeMirror`: Or at least, if you already had a / selected and it wasn't working
[06:53] <ComradeMirror`> its sayingg something about swap points now
[06:53] <ComradeMirror`> I changed /windows to /
[06:53] <chris062689> where were the logs for synaptic stored?
[06:53] <ComradeMirror`> x.x
[06:53] <neo> sometimes firefox   ,image viewers ,some games,editors etc....       at this time everything started to function normally      ,,,,,,    but usually problem is there
[06:53] <mneptok> ComradeMirror`: uh.
[06:53] <mneptok> ComradeMirror`: was that your windows partition?
[06:53] <ComradeMirror`> no
[06:53] <ComradeMirror`> it was my ext3 partition
[06:53] <chris062689> where were the logs for synaptic stored again?
[06:54] <mneptok> ohthankgawd
[06:54] <ComradeMirror`> I created a new one from freespace
[06:54] <Onyx> Is there a way to tell gedit what file types you want it to use syntax highlighting for?
[06:54] <mneptok> ComradeMirror`: are you now installing?
[06:54] <ComradeMirror`> not yet
[06:54] <n2diy> chris062689: locate is your friend.
[06:54] <ComradeMirror`> its asking me about swap place stuff
[06:54] <mneptok> ComradeMirror`: hang on.
[06:54] <chris062689> I know it's somewhere in /var
[06:54] <chris062689> But I can't find it
[06:54] <chris062689> I need to ind a log of my Synaptic installs, quick :(
[06:54] <n2diy> chris062689: locate is your friend.
[06:55] <chris062689> someone had said it earlier
[06:55] <chris062689> But my XChat crashed :(
[06:55] <Ayabara> Hey. I have a problem with the mic on my Dell XPS M1530. In alsamixer I can only see Master, PCM and Front, and the mic is not working
[06:55] <neo> programs take longer to start!!!!!
[06:55] <ComradeMirror`> should I reduce my main partition I was going to install linux on by 256 and make that into swap space
[06:55] <ComradeMirror`> thats what the thing is telling me
[06:55] <chris062689> think anyone could search for it real quick?  It had "/var/" in it, shouldn't be hard to track down
[06:55] <mneptok> ComradeMirror`: see PM
[06:56] <chris062689> should be like.. 5 minutes ago
[06:56] <Rat409> chris062689: /var/log/kernel.log; etc.etc.
[06:56] <starked> Hey, could anyone tell me why when I try to compile evolution-sharp it says it can't find package 'mono?' I know I have mono installed, but I don't know what to do with the env variables it mentions
[06:56] <speeddemon8803> !locate var
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about locate var - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <zer0ne> stupid internets
[06:56] <zer0ne> all going out on me
[06:56] <orbisvicis> chris062689, there are irc logs
[06:56] <speeddemon8803> oops :(
[06:56] <chris062689> where?
[06:56] <achandrashekar> can someone help me with a basic email server question specific to telnet and port 25?
[06:56] <chris062689> !irc log
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about irc log - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <meekolope> !irc
[06:56] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[06:56] <natlinexnewb> chris062689, sec
[06:57] <speeddemon8803> !guidelines
[06:57] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:57] <natlinexnewb> macogw chris062689: apt-cache show ubuntu-moil
[06:57] <natlinexnewb> macogw chris062689: the dependencies will be listed
[06:57] <carpediem> starked:  sudo apt-get build-dep evolution-sharp
[06:57] <neo> help!!!      programs take longer time to start!!!!!
[06:57] <chris062689> it was a little farther up
[06:57] <natlinexnewb> chris062689, further than that?
[06:57] <chris062689> I don't want it to list dependies because then that would remove everything else
[06:58] <chris062689> a tiny bit further up
[06:58] <natlinexnewb> chris062689, Flannel chris062689: /var/logs/dpkg.log
[06:58] <chris062689> yeah thanks.
[06:58] <starked> carpediem: You're my hero
[06:58] <starked> carpediem: Thanks, lol
[06:59] <neo> help!!!      programs take longer time to start!!!!!
[06:59] <Onyx> Is there a way to get gedit to use HTML syntax highlighting when it sees a .shtml extension?
[07:00] <starked> carpediem: Except the configure script for do-plugins still can't find evolution-sharp, :( Any ideas?
[07:00] <speeddemon8803> !xubuntu
[07:00] <speeddemon8803> !xubuntu | neo Neo, I highly suggest you try xubuntu if programs take a long time to start, especially if your using a computer thats around 4+ years old.
[07:00] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels
[07:00] <ubotu> neo Neo, I highly suggest you try xubuntu if programs take a long time to start, especially if your using a computer thats around 4+ years old.: please see above
[07:00] <Rael-> hey
[07:00] <speeddemon8803> oop
[07:00] <speeddemon8803> s
[07:00] <Filled-Void> Out of curiosity if I wanted to upgrade my KDE on my Ubuntu Desktop to 4.0 instead of the 3.5 I have. What would be the procedure?
[07:01] <lobo_nz> My video freezes up after a few minutes of playing, happened ever since gutsy upgrade, I re-installed but still freezes any ideas how to fix it?
[07:01] <Rael-> can someone tell me how to fix it so that when I login as root I keep the same setttings and preferences as my other login
[07:01] <jordan> Filled-Void, http://kubuntu.com/ link near the top of the page
[07:02] <jordan> Rael-, Do not log in as root. Period
[07:02] <neo> performence is very good    except for programs taking longer to start
[07:03] <PaTeeLA> Rael-: i think you would have to set up root account just like ur user accouont to do that
[07:03] <neo> programs like vlc player takes one second to start
[07:03] <Rael-> how do I perform commands in windows as root? I know how to do it in the shell but not within the gui
[07:03] <PaTeeLA> Rael-: but like jordan has pointed out, u should not be running as root, except for maintenance anyway
[07:03] <carpediem> starked: perhaps ./autoconfig or something....looks for something that starts with auto in the root of the source package.
[07:03] <n2diy> How can I restart/reset a comm port? Every couple of weeks my external modem appears to be busy to Ubuntu. Even when I disconnect  the modem, kppp tells me it is busy, so it seems to be a software issue?
[07:04] <neo> but other takes longer to start      i.e. firefox,terminal ec
[07:04] <_nando> neo: you must edit /etc/hosts
[07:04] <PaTeeLA> Rael-: gksudo then whatever gui u want like nautilus.  Is that what u want?
[07:04] <Filled-Void> Im sorry jordan I think Im dense but I did the InstallingKDE wiki and thats how I got 3.5 on my system but it doesnt mention how to move to 4.0 if I wanted to :x. I think Im looking at the wrong place. COuld you point me to the actual link.
[07:04] <starked> carpediem: I think I figured it out, I misunderstood what the build-dep command did -- I went back and actually compiled + installed evolution sharp, lol, and I think it should work fine now. Thanks!
[07:04] <neo> _nando wht to do with hosts file?
[07:04] <jordan> Filled-Void, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php
[07:05] <_nando> neo: r u using gnome, right?
[07:05] <neo> yeah!
[07:05] <Filled-Void> thank you very much jordan
[07:05] <ph0rensic> Anyone tried clonezilla?
[07:05] <jordan> Filled-Void, np
[07:05] <carpediem> starked: sounds good
[07:06] <n2diy> ! clonezilla
[07:06] <starked> carpediem: Yep, everything works perfectly now, thanks a bunch!
[07:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clonezilla - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:06] <neo> wht next?
[07:06] <PaTeeLA> Rael-: or does this help? http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[07:07] <_nando> neo: put 127.0.0.1 localhost on the first line
[07:07] <_nando> neo: and 127.0.1.1 your-computer-name on the second
[07:07] <starked> carpediem: I don't suppose you have any idea how to get snippit working? :P I have that one installed, I just can't get a global hotkey set up to make it run the command.  I put the command in the "Commands" part of compiz's settings, with a key combo. of Ctrl+backspace, but it does nothing. Any ideas?
[07:07] <ComradeMirror`> hmm
[07:08] <ComradeMirror`> I think the guy thats helping me walked away for some smokes because my lack of knowledge frustrated him xD
[07:08] <n2diy> clonezilla looks interesting.
[07:08] <jay-oh-en> how would i do this on link http://www.labnol.org/software/browsers/speed-up-firefox-run-fast/2065/
[07:08] <neo> it is already there
[07:08] <jay-oh-en> linux*
[07:08] <meekolope> Comm what was your problem again?
[07:08] <ComradeMirror`> Im doing partitions right now
[07:08] <ComradeMirror`> for linux
[07:08] <ComradeMirror`> what is a swap partition
[07:09] <_nando> so put in the first line 127.0.0.1 localhost your-computer-name
[07:09] <RedHeron> It's virtual memory space, ComradeMirror`.
[07:09] <ComradeMirror`> ah
[07:09] <ph0rensic> ComradeMirror`: kinda like windows page file or whatever
[07:09] <Ububegin> what is the command ... to open 2 vim windows side by side....
[07:09] <ComradeMirror`> what is a good amount?
[07:09]  * RedHeron 10gb of swap, has used up to 4gb of that.
[07:09] <Rael-> I'm trying to be as root while in the window messing with files and folders..cause it won't let me make links to the files
[07:09] <kuchcha> hey all
[07:09] <ph0rensic> ComradeMirror`: between 1-2 gigs
[07:09] <kuchcha> i have ubuntu installed on my HDD
[07:09]  * RedHeron *has* 10gb of swap, rather.
[07:09] <ComradeMirror`> eep
[07:09] <_nando> neo: i dont know if this will work for you because I had this problem on feisty fawn, in gutsy this problem is supposed to be fixed
[07:09] <_nando> neo: but try
[07:09] <ComradeMirror`> Im trying to set up linux on maximum 10gbs
[07:09] <kuchcha> im plannin to install debian using hd-install
[07:10] <ph0rensic> RedHeron: you have 10 gigs swap?
[07:10] <ComradeMirror`> just want to try it out
[07:10] <kuchcha> how shld i edit the GRUB for that?
[07:10] <mkquist> Rael-: u can sudo nautilus if you would like, or gksudo nautilus
[07:10] <jay-oh-en> how would i do this on ubuntu http://www.labnol.org/software/browsers/speed-up-firefox-run-fast/2065/
[07:10] <ComradeMirror`> so what would be a good amount fitting everything in 10gbs
[07:10] <RedHeron> ph0rensic: Yes.
[07:10] <ComradeMirror`> some someone said i should have 4 partitions or something
[07:10] <ph0rensic> RedHeron: wow how big is your HDD
[07:10] <RedHeron> ComradeMirror`: Probably 1gb would suffice.
[07:10] <ComradeMirror`> 1.for my windows 2.linux 3.swap 4./home
[07:10] <RedHeron> ph0rensic: 120Gb
[07:10]  * kuchcha waits for attention
[07:10] <ph0rensic> ComradeMirror`: 2 for linux 1 for windows.. what would the 4th be? ghost drive partition???
[07:10] <zcat[1]> ComradeMirror`: If you want to fit the whole install in 10G I'd go for 9G / and 1G swap, only 2 partitions
[07:10] <blink_> hohoho..without your help, i fixed mine...hehehe..
[07:11] <ph0rensic> RedHeron: Why so much space for swap?
[07:11] <neo> like 127.0.0.1 localhost unknown  (unknown my computer name)
[07:11] <RedHeron> ph0rensic: A /home partition on its own partition allows replacing the OS without losing much.
[07:11] <trance_techau>  compiz --replace Checking for Xgl: present.  Checking for nVidia: not present.  Checking for Xgl: present.  Enabling Xgl with fglrx ATi drivers... Starting emerald inotify_add_watch: No such file or directory
[07:11] <ComradeMirror`> in english
[07:11] <_nando> neo: yes
[07:11] <RedHeron> ph0rensic: And my reason for so much is that I'm a resource hog.
[07:11] <ComradeMirror`> how would that benefit me
[07:12] <trance_techau> anyone know that dam error
[07:12] <ph0rensic> RedHeron: haah oh i see.. yah i suppose that would work
[07:12] <neo> _nando should i restart now?
[07:12] <ComradeMirror`> and how big would me /home be to benefit me?
[07:12] <speeddemon8803> comrademirror..your home directory on a different partition would benefit by making it so where if you accidentally "wipe" your main partition..all of your stuff isnt totally gone for your user account.
[07:12] <mkquist> ComradeMirror`: thats not alot of space, youll likely run out installing programs...  If you trying to fit windows and linux on one 10gig drive, if thats what you mean
[07:12] <RedHeron> ComradeMirror`: 1gb would allow you essentially 1gb of RAM, though it's slower on a HDD than it is in actual RAM.
[07:12] <credible> trance_techau: there isn't anything particularly bad there
[07:12] <trance_techau> when starting compiz, emerald is crashing
[07:12] <ComradeMirror`> mkquist
[07:12] <ComradeMirror`> Im jsut trying to fit linux on 10gb
[07:12] <credible> trance_techau: how do you know it's crashing?
[07:12] <trance_techau> except emerald won't full load
[07:13] <trance_techau> it just hangs
[07:13] <lindzeyn> I have a raid0 array (2 X 750) and a 74GB Raptor.  I am trying to install ubuntu onto the Raptor.  The installation goes just fine; however, when I restart, GRUB gives me an error 25:  disk read error.
[07:13] <mkquist> ComradeMirror`: oh then just a 1gid swap, rest for linux
[07:13] <_nando> neo: first try to start the app again... if the problem stills maybe its a good idea to restart
[07:13] <chalcedony> :)
[07:13] <credible> trance_techau: is the Window Decoration plugin enabled?
[07:13] <trance_techau> without it load i dont have any menu's. exit minimise etc
[07:13] <RedHeron> ComradeMirror`: 1gb /home should suffice.
[07:13] <Rael-> thanks. I tried that but it did not solve the problem...I'm trying to make a link on the desktop to the windows drive that I mounted. it will let me make links to the other foders but not that
[07:13] <zcat[1]> ComradeMirror`: I wouldn't split root and home if you're trying to do a small install, you'll just end up with one or the other being too small, while you still have space on the other..
[07:13] <ComradeMirror`> okay
[07:13] <mkquist> ComradeMirror`: u can put ur home on another part to save if u need to reinstall i guess
[07:13] <ComradeMirror`> so 8gbs linux 1 swap 1 home
[07:13] <RedHeron> 4gb Linux, 4gb Windows
[07:13] <ComradeMirror`> redheron
[07:14] <ComradeMirror`> the whole drive is 60
[07:14] <ComradeMirror`> Im using 10 for linux
[07:14] <RedHeron> ComradeMirror`: Ah, that makes a difference.
[07:14] <ComradeMirror`> yeah
[07:14] <ComradeMirror`> Im poor xd cannot afford big drives
[07:14] <ComradeMirror`> though I have 2 60gbs
[07:14] <ComradeMirror`> I have 14 open on my other drive
[07:14] <ComradeMirror`> I might beable to use
[07:14] <neo> i think its ok       thnks vry vry much               i was actually thinking to reinstall the system
[07:14] <RedHeron> 1 drive Lin, 1 drive Wintendo?
[07:14] <mkquist> ComradeMirror`: id just use a 1 gig swap and the rest for linux, keeps it simple (its not the size of ur drives, its how u use em anyway =p)
[07:14] <ComradeMirror`> so I have 16-20gbs at my disposal
[07:15] <meekolope> Comrade, hey thats not bad i only have 60 gigs total from two drives :P
[07:15] <ComradeMirror`> ah
[07:15] <zcat[1]> ComradeMirror`: 9G root, 1G swap.. forget splitting off home, you can easily backup and restore home to the windows partition with ntfs-3g or ext2 drivers in windows if you need to reinstall
[07:15] <ph0rensic> RedHeron: Have you tried clonezilla or bacula??
[07:15] <neo> thnks nando
[07:15] <trance_techau> credible - in where? compiz manager
[07:15] <RedHeron> zcat[1]: Most people *don't* back up, is the issue.
[07:15] <ComradeMirror`> okay
[07:15] <ComradeMirror`> so no home?
[07:15] <_nando> neo: :)
[07:15] <RedHeron> Making a separate /home partition makes better sense.
[07:15] <mkquist> ComradeMirror`: agree w/ zcat[1] myself... no home is made on ur linux drive automatically
[07:16] <spaz> g'evening
[07:16] <spaz> i just installed ubuntu (coming from freebsd...har har i know)
[07:16] <zcat[1]> RedHeron: for keeping home, copy to windows.. for 'backing up' -- something on the same drive is NOT a backup!
[07:16] <RedHeron> ComradeMirror`: What do you plan to use Linux for?
[07:16] <spaz> and i tried to boot
[07:16] <ComradeMirror`> school work and media
[07:16] <spaz> then it freezes at "Setting system clock"
[07:16] <mkquist> ComradeMirror`: linux will creat a home for u if u dont mount it somewhere else
[07:16] <ComradeMirror`> Windows for gaming
[07:16] <ComradeMirror`> and such
[07:16] <spaz> any ideas?
[07:16] <ComradeMirror`> mount it somewhere else?
[07:17] <RedHeron> zcat[1]: But having a separate /home partition if you fubar Linux = much, much lower chances of losing data.
[07:17] <fx__> Lost is a shitty show.  Its season 6 and theyre still on a fucking island..  I think a better story would be, they live in the jungle for like 2 seasons, and during that time they turn into savage killers from living like guerillas in the jungle..  So then they finally get rescued, but when they go back to civilized life theyre all traumatized from life in the jungle and having to eat eachothers guts.   And now, they cannot cope with so
[07:17]  * ComradeMirror` flails arms
[07:17] <spaz> good to know.
[07:17] <Rael-> its only season 4
[07:17] <ComradeMirror`> Hmmm
[07:17] <mkquist> fx__: not, like off-topic or anything... =\
[07:17] <fx__> but yes or no?
[07:17] <ComradeMirror`> can I use my home on a different drive then linux
[07:17] <RedHeron> ComradeMirror`: Yes.
[07:17] <mkquist> ComradeMirror`: yes
[07:17] <zcat[1]> RedHeron: I wouldn't think so.. how are you going to foobar linux? rm -rf? /home is gone anyhow...
[07:17] <ComradeMirror`> okay then
[07:17]  * spaz screams at his hard disk
[07:17] <neo> another problem         >>>>>>>       while plugging in the pin of my headphones in to system the pc speaker doesnot mute and sound comes frm both speakers and headphones
[07:17] <stdin> !ot | fx__
[07:17] <ubotu> fx__: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:18] <fx__> sorry all
[07:18] <RedHeron> zcat[1]: I've done it just with software installs.
[07:18] <spaz> x_x
[07:18] <mkquist> spaz: whats up?
[07:18] <RedHeron> fx__: That has what, exactly, to do with Ubuntu?
[07:18] <ComradeMirror`> so Im going to be doing 8gbs for my linx 1 for swap 1 /home
[07:18] <RedHeron> ComradeMirror`: That makes sense.
[07:18] <ComradeMirror`> swap and home can be on seperate drive then linux too yes?
[07:18] <spaz> mkquist, i go to boot ubuntu, then it freezes at "setting system clock"
[07:18] <Rael-> I think I need to change the permissions on the /mnt/windows folder . but that option is greyed out
[07:18] <fx__> RedHeron: sorry i am in OT now
[07:18] <RedHeron> ComradeMirror`: Yes.
[07:18] <jordan> ComradeMirror`, Yes
[07:18] <ComradeMirror`> okay then Im going to try this
[07:18] <mkquist> ComradeMirror`: that would work fine if u wish
[07:18] <ComradeMirror`> x.x
[07:18] <zcat[1]> RedHeron: no matter how much you mess it up, you can still get the files off by booting into a rescue disk, or booting into windows and reading the partiton with ext2 drivers
[07:18] <spaz> mkquist, relatively early in the boot process
[07:18] <ComradeMirror`> would a home of 1gb really help me?
[07:18]  * spaz hugs ComradeMirror` 
[07:18] <mkquist> spaz: tried hitting escape?
[07:18] <ComradeMirror`> I'd have to know how to use home wouldn't i?
[07:19] <RedHeron> zcat[1]: I didn't have any way to recover the partition.
[07:19] <ComradeMirror`> I'll come back later to learn that if I don't figure out how
[07:19] <spaz> mkquist, the keyboard locks up...
[07:19] <spaz> so that didn't really help :p
[07:19] <RedHeron> zcat[1]: As in: the /home partition saved my butt.
[07:19] <mkquist> spaz: ewww,,, bootlive cd and check the logs..
[07:19] <mkquist> spaz: see what its 'thinking'
[07:19] <Lieuwe> hello
[07:19] <RedHeron> ComradeMirror`: /home is where the user accounts are located... it's where YOUR files are stored.
[07:19] <jordan> ComradeMirror`, /home is where your documents / settings are most likely to be stored, if 1 GIG is enough for your documents then it's fine, if not ... :)
[07:19] <spaz> mkquist, i turned off the bootsplash and quiet optoins
[07:19] <ComradeMirror`> ah
[07:19] <spaz> live CD does it fine
[07:19] <ComradeMirror`> okay then
[07:19] <ComradeMirror`> I understand now
[07:19] <mkquist> Lieuwe: hello 2 u
[07:20] <ComradeMirror`> what would be stored on my linux drive then?
[07:20] <Lieuwe> hello
[07:20] <crolle17> hi pastie!
[07:20]  * RedHeron has 60GB on the /home partition and runs out of space due to work requirements.
[07:20] <RedHeron> ComradeMirror`: Linux
[07:20] <mkquist> spaz: livd cd/check logs on system...
[07:20] <ComradeMirror`> isn't linux only 4gbs?
[07:20] <Lieuwe> this lol server
[07:20] <spaz> mkquist, ok
[07:20] <spaz> ugh lag
[07:20] <RedHeron> ComradeMirror`: It allows you to install software you need, such as instant messengers, Skype, etc.
[07:20] <Lieuwe> >A>A>A>>A>A>A>A>A
[07:20] <ComradeMirror`> ah
[07:20] <Rael-> can someone tell me how to allow permission to access a folder to my main user
[07:21] <neo> another problem         >>>>>>>       while plugging in the pin of my headphones in to system the pc speaker doesnot mute and sound comes frm both speakers and headphones
[07:21] <ComradeMirror`> I might make my home bigger then
[07:21] <mkquist> ComradeMirror`: RedHeron is not wrong on this, but up to you...
[07:21] <ComradeMirror`> 2gbs of god
[07:21] <ComradeMirror`> oh*
[07:21] <Lieuwe> 123456789
[07:21] <crolle17> pastie
[07:21] <ComradeMirror`> hmm I might make my linux 6 then
[07:21] <RedHeron> ComradeMirror`: That's the point: this is a decision only you can make.
[07:21] <Lieuwe> 10111213141516171819
[07:21] <ComradeMirror`> gaa
[07:21] <jordan> ComradeMirror`, "linux" is only a kernel, how much your space your Ubuntu install is going to require depends on what applications you install
[07:21] <ComradeMirror`> yes Im thinking
[07:21] <ComradeMirror`> how much space would it take
[07:21] <Lieuwe> 20212223242526272829
[07:21] <jordan> ComradeMirror`, It can be 50 meg or less TOTAL if you really need it to be
[07:21] <RedHeron> jordan: Thanks, that was what I was trying to say.
[07:21] <Lieuwe> :)
[07:21] <ComradeMirror`> to get extremely large amounts of eye candy
[07:21] <Lieuwe>  
[07:21] <Lieuwe>  
[07:21] <Lieuwe>  
[07:21] <Lieuwe>  
[07:21] <Lieuwe>  
[07:21] <Lieuwe>  
[07:21] <Lieuwe>  
[07:21] <twosouls82> Lieuwe: please behave
[07:21] <mkquist> ComradeMirror`: work/school, back it up.. like cd/dvd... =)
[07:22] <Lieuwe>  
[07:22] <ph0rensic> sorry folks pidgin keeps crashing .. ol trusty xchat though
[07:22] <RedHeron> Flooder troll!
[07:22] <Lieuwe>  
[07:22] <spaz> mkquist, not a single thing has been logged
[07:22] <jordan> ComradeMirror`, But with the default apps it's about 5 GIG
[07:22] <Lieuwe>   
[07:22] <jordan> !ops
[07:22] <FloodBot3> Lieuwe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[07:22] <Lieuwe>  
[07:22] <crolle17> pastie: hi!
[07:22] <natlinexnewb> i have a silly funny question
[07:22] <mkquist> spaz: find that hard to believe... hmmm =\
[07:22] <natlinexnewb> ...
[07:22] <neo> ++++++
[07:22] <spaz> mkquist, believe it or not
[07:22] <spaz> whee
[07:22] <mkquist> spaz: are u checking the live cd log or ur installed os log?
[07:22] <paul928_> @ubuntu-us-az
[07:22] <ComradeMirror`> does compiz fusion work with ubuntu?
[07:22] <RedHeron> ComradeMirror`: Yes.
[07:23] <ph0rensic> ComradeMirror`: Yes is comes with gutsy!
[07:23] <ComradeMirror`> ah
[07:23] <spaz> mkquist, installed OS log, but live cd boots fine as i said
[07:23] <natlinexnewb> I have 7.10 .iso on the desktop. Can i install 7.10 right now over top of my 5.04?
[07:23] <spaz> it just doesn't like being installed i guess
[07:23] <jordan> ComradeMirror`, Yes, the basic features are installed by default
[07:23] <mkquist> spaz: but ur are like cd'ing to media and looking at the right log?
[07:23] <jordan> natlinexnewb, You would need to burn the iso to a CD or some other media
[07:23] <spaz> mkquist, i'm picking all the logs, and most of them contain (nothing logged yet)
[07:23] <mkquist> spaz: cause its gonna be a mounted disk ur looking at
[07:23] <natlinexnewb> :(
[07:24] <spaz> natural i assume, since it freezes before the FS is mounted
[07:24] <mkquist> spaz: not the base system
[07:24] <ComradeMirror`> when I used linux before it never seem this flashie xD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4Fbk52Mk1w&e
[07:24] <ComradeMirror`> but yeah I've used linux before just not with partitions like this
[07:24] <spaz> mkquist, ? explain
[07:24]  * spaz shouldn't be this confused lol
[07:24] <jordan> natlinexnewb, You should be able to upgrade 5.04 to 5.10 then 6.04 ... but it is no longer supported and there are no guarentees :)
[07:24] <natlinexnewb> lol
[07:25] <spaz> been a while since i've used linux...BSD brain contamination!
[07:25] <natlinexnewb> jordan,  thanx :)
[07:25] <mkquist> spaz: still find that hard to believe, cd / to root then check /media and look at ur hard drive(s) mounted there, if there is like hda or sda then cd to there and check the logs there
[07:25] <zcat[1]> my own opinion, if you don't have 8G free for root and still a sensible amount free for home, it's better to just have both in the same partition.. that way one or the other won't be too small until you actually do run out of space..
[07:25] <spaz> mkquist, that's what i'm doing
[07:25] <ComradeMirror`> are those just plugins for the compiz fusion thing
[07:25] <spaz> i can access my ubuntu partition inside my current OS
[07:25] <spaz> err ubuntu disk
[07:25] <starked> Would anyone here know why the command specified in Compiz Config --> General --> Commands won't run when I press its associated key?
[07:25] <natlinexnewb> is there a human readable thingy of my devices on this box?
[07:25] <spaz> and as i said mkquist, logs empty
[07:26] <mkquist> spaz: u got me then, theres gotta be something logged, i mean its trying to start sooo...  i'm thinking there has to be something in the log..
[07:26] <RedHeron> ComradeMirror`: I'm not sure what you're meaning... are what?
[07:26] <zcat[1]> and if you only have 4G in /home you can back that up on a single DVD if you ever need to reinstall
[07:26] <mkquist> anyone can help spaz... he says theres nothing in logs on a system that wont fully boot when he checks w/live cd?
[07:26] <ComradeMirror`> nvm
[07:27]  * RedHeron agrees with zcat[1] on that.
[07:27] <natlinexnewb> live CD doesnt touch the HD afaik
[07:27] <mkquist> spaz: sry, i dont know if there is nothing...
[07:27] <jordan> spaz, Is your Ubuntu partition currently mounted?
[07:27] <RedHeron> spaz: Where are you looking for logs?
[07:27] <mkquist> jordan: wont it mount w/live cd auto or not?
[07:27] <ComradeMirror`> okay hows this sound instead 8gbs for linux 6 for home 2 for swap
[07:27] <mkquist> RedHeron: i think hes looking in the wrong place, but he says not
[07:27] <jordan> mkquist, No, you need to mount internal drives explicitly
[07:27] <ComradeMirror`> since I might be torrenting unlicensed cartoons xD
[07:27] <RedHeron> ComradeMirror`: Still only need 1 for swap.
[07:27] <ComradeMirror`> okay then
[07:28] <ComradeMirror`> 7 for home
[07:28] <zcat[1]> ComradeMirror`: how about 30 for windows, 30 for Linux...
[07:28] <spaz> RedHeron, in /var/log of course
[07:28] <RedHeron> ComradeMirror`: Sounds good. :-)
[07:28] <mkquist> jordan: ty, then thats the prob...  spaz gotta mount the drive.. check w/jordan
[07:28] <ComradeMirror`> okay then
[07:28] <spaz> i'm a un*x veteran...but this has me stumped heh
[07:28] <ComradeMirror`> apparently
[07:28] <ComradeMirror`> I should have defragged my drives
[07:28] <ComradeMirror`> before editing my partitions
[07:28] <ComradeMirror`> x.x
[07:28] <RedHeron> spaz: Are the logs being written to somewhere else?
[07:28] <spaz> mkquist, i did mount the drive :P
[07:28] <mkquist> ComradeMirror`: it really all depends what ur putting on it.   Like windows u install a lot ull prob run short... w/10gigs
[07:29] <natlinexnewb> is there a human readable text file or "easy" list of my devices on this box? I'm looking at Device manager at the mo and there are lots of strings.
[07:29] <spaz> RedHeron, i don't think so...
[07:29] <RedHeron> ComradeMirror`: That would help, yes.
[07:29] <spaz> shouldn't be
[07:29] <RedHeron> spaz: Could be, it's worth checking into.
[07:29] <ComradeMirror`> mkquist my windows has 50gbs x.x
[07:29] <spaz> RedHeron, lemme look...
[07:29] <nickrud> natlinexnewb:  lspci
[07:29] <RedHeron> spaz: Also check to make sure permissions are correct for logging.
[07:29] <speeddemon8803> hmm...nobody in #freenode is helping me with my hostmask cloaking :/
[07:29] <jordan> spaz, What is happening when you try to boot?
[07:29] <mkquist> ComradeMirror`: well thats fine, but i mean ur linux part...
[07:29] <natlinexnewb> nickrud, in terminal?
[07:29] <zcat[1]> I've resized a fair few Windows partitions and I've never defragged first... and I've never had one go bad either
[07:29] <ComradeMirror`> ah
[07:29] <nickrud> natlinexnewb: yes
[07:30] <ComradeMirror`> you said my windows part might run short with 10 gigs
[07:30] <ph0rensic> zcat[1]: I saw it happen to a few folks
[07:30] <mkquist> ComradeMirror`: sry meant linux
[07:30]  * RedHeron has never had one go bad, but there is the possibility (remote one) that you could lose data.
[07:30] <nickrud> the one time I resized an ntfs, it went bad. The machine was only a couple hours old, luckily
[07:30] <ComradeMirror`> ah
[07:30] <jay-oh-en> i got my webserver up now how do i add stuff to it to make a website show up
[07:30] <ComradeMirror`> question
[07:30] <spaz> jordan, it locks up when it goes to to "Configue system clock"
[07:30] <ComradeMirror`> can I increase a partition
[07:30] <ComradeMirror`> after I install linux
[07:30] <zcat[1]> I advise people to backup always.. just in case..
[07:30] <nickrud> jay-oh-en: put your html in /var/www , use sudo
[07:30] <lindzeyn> I have a raid0 array (2 X 750) and a 74GB Raptor.  I am trying to install ubuntu onto the Raptor.  The installation goes just fine; however, when I restart, GRUB gives me an error 25:  disk read error.
[07:30] <ComradeMirror`> say I free up more unaccolated space
[07:30] <RedHeron> ComradeMirror`: It's possible, but not recommended, in general.
[07:31] <mkquist> ComradeMirror`: better to fix ur part size before install id think
[07:31] <ComradeMirror`> okay then
[07:31] <jay-oh-en> nickrud, thanks
[07:31] <natlinexnewb> nickrud, thanx. perfect.
[07:31] <spaz> hmm...
[07:31] <zcat[1]> I just let the installer resize it.. but whatever you feel safest with
[07:32] <spaz> i bet $10 there's some kernel option i can use to fix this
[07:32] <jay-oh-en> nickrud, how do i remove a dir full of stuff?
[07:32] <ph0rensic> zcat[1]: any good backup software that clones the whole system?
[07:32] <spaz> something related to the system clock
[07:32] <jay-oh-en> nickrud, sudo rm -i?
[07:32] <nickrud> jay-oh-en: to remove the directory and all it's contents,  rm -r /path/todir
[07:32] <erawfish> jay-oh-en: by using rm -rf VERY CAREFULLY
[07:32] <RedHeron> ComradeMirror`: Linux doesn't stop you from doing stupid things... like using a Windows partition.
[07:32] <jay-oh-en> erawfish, thanks
[07:32] <jay-oh-en> nickrud, thanks
[07:32] <ComradeMirror`> and that means what?
[07:33] <zcat[1]> ph0rensic: partimage is OKish .. can only restore to the same size partition though
[07:33] <nickrud> jay-oh-en: I'd suggest -r, use f only if -r fails (and you know why)
[07:33] <jay-oh-en> nickrud, ok
[07:33] <speeddemon8803> rm is a scary command when run under sudo :(
[07:33] <ph0rensic> zcat[1]: What about clonazilla ever used it?
[07:33] <spaz> AHA
[07:33] <zcat[1]> nope
[07:33] <RedHeron> spaz: Yes?
[07:33] <jay-oh-en> thanks nickrud
[07:33] <ComradeMirror`> should all my partitions be ext3?
[07:33] <spaz> i think it's a /sbin/hwclock bug
[07:33] <nickrud> speeddemon8803: I destroyed a carefully built lfs that way once
[07:33] <zcat[1]> jay-oh-en: rm -rf -- /path/to/dir
[07:33] <spaz> or it's doing something it shouldn't be doing
[07:33] <RedHeron> spaz: That's.... weird.
[07:34] <spaz> RedHeron, indeed it is
[07:34] <spaz> let's see
[07:34] <jay-oh-en> zcat[1], got my answer already
[07:34] <ph0rensic> sudo rm -Rf / hmm not a good thing i guess
[07:34] <zcat[1]> -- means any files with -- names won't be interpreted as more switches
[07:34] <neo> ++++++
[07:34] <neo> another problem         >>>>>>>       while plugging in the pin of my headphones in to system the pc speaker doesnot mute and sound comes frm both speakers and headphones
[07:34] <RedHeron> ph0rensic: Nor is: cat /dev/zero > /dev/sda
[07:34] <zcat[1]> nor is yes > /dev/hda
[07:35] <Jordan_U> spaz, Out of curiosity try chrooting in and running 'date'
[07:35] <ComradeMirror`> ext3 is the best "type" or format my partitions should be set too right
[07:35] <spaz> Jordan_U, good idea
[07:35] <Onyx> Does anyone know of a good tool for cutting out precise clips from mp3s?
[07:36] <Jordan_U> Onyx, Like Audacity or something more specialized?
[07:36] <spaz> i'll have to burn another livecd...freebsd can't chroot into linux stuffs :(
[07:36] <spaz> and i have the alternate iso
[07:36] <spaz> ah well, no pain no gain
[07:36] <erawfish> !info mp3split
[07:36] <ubotu> Package mp3split does not exist in gutsy
[07:36] <zcat[1]> alternate CD you can alt-F2 and get a shell
[07:36] <erawfish> !info mp3cut
[07:36] <ubotu> Package mp3cut does not exist in gutsy
[07:36] <nickrud> spaz: I think the alternate has a recovery option, drops you into a shell
[07:36] <erawfish> d'oh!
[07:37] <Jordan_U> spaz, Can it do it with the Linux emulation ( never tried it, and I am curious now ) ?
[07:37] <spaz> nickrud, o: it does
[07:37] <Onyx> Jordan_U: Just looking for something that can cut things by like 100ths of seconds, if at all possible.  It doesn't have to be ridiculously high tech at all.
[07:37] <spaz> good point
[07:37] <erawfish> ComradeMirror`: yes
[07:37] <spaz> Jordan_U, no because it only emulates 2.4 right now
[07:37] <spaz> and i'd also have to mark the binaries in the install :(
[07:37] <zcat[1]> Onyx: audacity?
[07:38] <spaz> well i shall bbs
[07:38] <spaz> i hope
[07:38] <Onyx> zcat[1]: Jordan_U: I'll give audacity a shot (installing now)
[07:38] <Rael-> what option do I put in to allow all users to access a mounted drive
[07:38] <natlinexnewb> I have 2 PCs. WinXp is my main one that I email from using Thunderbird. I want my Linux box to be able to email as well using the same account, but NOT remove the emails from the email server. How do I go about this?
[07:38] <glick> hi
[07:39] <RedHeron> Hi
[07:39] <zcat[1]> natlinexnewb: use IMAP on both machines if your mail provider supports it
[07:39] <natlinexnewb> Pop3
[07:39] <natlinexnewb> atm
[07:39] <nickrud> natlinexnewb: get imap :)
[07:39] <natlinexnewb> whats the differences?
[07:39]  * RedHeron wants a PHP script that pulls raw email through Gmail into a database.
[07:39] <glick> is anyone running ubuntu D830?
[07:39] <RedHeron> Woops, wrong channel.
[07:39] <nickrud> natlinexnewb: imap always leaves messages on the server, you can sync any client any time
[07:39] <ComradeMirror`> okay guys Im trying this
[07:39] <OmegaCenti> How do I tell if I have framebuffer in console?
[07:40] <ComradeMirror`> wish me luck
[07:40] <zcat[1]> see if they support imap.. otherwise set both mail programs to leave mail on the server
[07:40] <natlinexnewb> so this is a thunderbird issue not a ubuntu?
[07:40] <RedHeron> ComradeMirror`: Good luck!
[07:40] <nickrud> natlinexnewb: sort the mail into folders on the server, both clients see the sorting
[07:40] <zcat[1]> pop3 you can just leave the mail there until you delete it, or for a few days, so that both mail programs get a chance to pick it up
[07:40] <glick> i tried the kubuntu live cd but couldnt get sound or my network card working
[07:40] <OmegaCenti> How do I tell if I have framebuffer in console?
[07:40] <nickrud> natlinexnewb: yes to thunderbird/pop3
[07:41] <natlinexnewb> ah. thanx
[07:41] <glick> but i heard that kubuntu isnt as polished as ubuntu
[07:41] <lobo_nz> how can I restart the audio server in ubuntu
[07:41] <natlinexnewb> zcat[1], nickrud thanx
[07:41] <prince_jammys> glick: wrong
[07:41] <ComradeMirror`> geeze I gotta learn the controls of linux now
[07:41] <glick> whats wrong prince_jammys ?
[07:42] <prince_jammys> glick the kubuntu thing you heard
[07:42] <CyanideD> what players can i get to stream videos
[07:42] <zcat[1]> CyanideD: vlc, mplayer
[07:42] <glick> seems like ubtuntu gets the limelight prince_jammys
[07:43] <prince_jammys> glick: kubuntu: plenty polished .. you might even say, we'll let's not
[07:43] <prince_jammys> *well
[07:43] <ph0rensic> So i hear windows is polished ......
[07:43] <OmegaCenti> Anyone know how I can tell if I have framebuffer in consoles?!
[07:43] <prince_jammys> glick indeed ubuntu is getting the limelight
[07:43] <glick> should i install both?
[07:43] <prince_jammys> glick sure
[07:44] <ph0rensic> a polished turd haah ok sorry i need food im delerius
[07:44] <prince_jammys> glick does no damage
[07:44] <nickrud> glick: absolutely, ubuntu is better, prove it for yourself ;p
[07:44] <glick> have you tried the kubuntu edition prince_jammys ?
[07:44] <prince_jammys> glick see what you started?
[07:45] <nickrud> kde is very good, I just love bad jokes. Don't mind me
[07:45] <prince_jammys> glick i am on it as we speak
[07:45] <prince_jammys> glick don't you forget that yakuake while youre at it
[07:46] <prince_jammys> glick sudo apt-tra lala....
[07:46] <CyanideD> what players can i get to stream videos
[07:46] <clearzen> I have a dual monitor setup. One monitor is a HDTV the resolution is almost perfect, but I don't have any window borders. What would cause this?
[07:46] <spaz> wheee
[07:46] <spaz> irssi sucks in the rescue shell
[07:46] <spaz> :(
[07:46] <spaz> but ah well
[07:46] <spaz> i can do date apparently
[07:47] <spaz> even though it thinks it's around 3 hours than it actually is
[07:47] <spaz> *3 hours earlier
[07:47] <spaz> make that 5 hours...
[07:48] <Jordan_U> spaz, Can you try removing the "splash" and possibly "quiet" kernel parameters when you boot to see if any useful info is being printed ?
[07:49] <neo> another problem         >>>>>>>       while plugging in the pin of my headphones in to system the pc speaker doesnot mute and sound comes frm both speakers and headphones
[07:49] <spaz> Jordan_U: actually...that's what i did to discover what was freezing the system
[07:50] <CyanideD> what players can i get to stream videos
[07:50] <spaz> brb
[07:51] <spaz> :(
[07:51] <zcat[1]> damn, speech recognition in ubuntu just isn't there...
[07:51] <RedHeron> zcat[1]: That's because it's not really important to the base operation of Linux.
[07:51] <spaz> zcat[1]: same goes for all open source OS'es
[07:52] <_coldfire_> hi! one short question: has anyone running Pinnacle pctv dual sat pro card (4000i) with ubuntu?
[07:52] <spaz> hell even commercial ones
[07:52] <natlinexnewb> it will be in the future
[07:52] <zcat[1]> trying to figure out spynx2 .. what a nightmare..
[07:52] <RedHeron> _coldfire_: No.
[07:52] <RedHeron> natlinexnewb: Oh?
[07:52] <spaz> bleh i hate having to type /redraw every 3 seconds
[07:52] <neo> another problem         >>>>>>>       while plugging in the pin of my headphones in to system the pc speaker doesnot mute and sound comes frm both speakers and headphones
[07:53] <natlinexnewb> RedHeron, Yup. Speech recognition will be supported ... eventually :)
[07:53] <RedHeron> neo: Driver.
[07:53] <RedHeron> natlinexnewb: You konw something I don't, in that case.
[07:53] <natlinexnewb> RedHeron,  say goodbye to your keyboard
[07:53] <RedHeron> natlinexnewb: That would be nice.
[07:53]  * RedHeron actually despises his keyboard due to repetitive stress syndrome.
[07:54] <ComradeMirror`> I must say
[07:54] <FD_F> is ubuntu support ICH9 sound card family ?
[07:54] <ComradeMirror`> I learned something today
[07:54] <ComradeMirror`> thanks to everyone who helped
[07:54] <spaz> :( ugh
[07:54] <ineedhelp> I might be able to fix your repetetiveness
[07:54] <RedHeron> ComradeMirror`: Learning is what life is all about.
[07:54]  * spaz eats his computer
[07:54] <amax> I have bug with latest todays update in Hardy - with Firefox 3 -  Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9b3pre and 1.9b3pre.
[07:54] <ineedhelp> fd what brand
[07:54] <amax> anyone please fix Firefox3 bug..!
[07:54] <ineedhelp> umm
[07:54] <zcat[1]> a friend of mine has dragon NS, alongh with JAWS screenreader and a whole bunch of extensions .. works really well, except after about three sessions it totally screws up and won't run... takes a reinstall to get it going again. I imaged his system in linux so now he only has to boot to linux and restore it, and keep user data elsewhere..
[07:54] <ineedhelp> latest ff is 3b3
[07:54] <natlinexnewb> RedHeron, I say that because *everyone* is working on linux. *Someone* in that *Everyone* will think its important (even if its only me) and will make *something* to support specch recog in linux. (call me idealist :))
[07:54] <RedHeron> amax: Contact Mozilla?
[07:55] <ineedhelp> really
[07:55] <FD_F> ineedhelp: Intel Corporation 82801I
[07:55] <ineedhelp> you mad something?
[07:55] <amax> ineedhelp: updated 3 mn ago. its broken now.
[07:55] <RedHeron> natlinexnewb: The problem is, nobody's actually doing it, to my knowledge.
[07:55]  * amax will rollback it .....
[07:55] <RedHeron> amax: Contact mozilla, too.
[07:55] <ineedhelp> fd_f if it is intel it should be supported, go to system>administration>restricted drivers manager and install everything there
[07:55] <neo> in built
[07:56] <RedHeron> neo: Driver issue.
[07:56] <natlinexnewb> RedHeron,  not yet :) I'm dreaming. Theres a gap. Someone will fill it eventually i reckon. I'm no authority on this but i have a hunch. :) its the linux way
[07:56] <natlinexnewb> or something like that :)
[07:56] <RedHeron> natlinexnewb: I just hope it's in my lifetime.
[07:56] <ineedhelp> RedHeron actually despises his keyboard due to repetitive stress syndrome.   try a program called snippits
[07:57] <RedHeron> ineedhelp: That doesn't stop the past injury.
[07:57]  * RedHeron is now known as RedHeron
[07:58] <Slart> are there any software for ubuntu that lets me use my cellphone to send sms?
[07:58] <jay-oh-en> how do i see the progress of something im deleting in terminal
[07:58] <Icanspamhardcore> true
[07:58] <Icanspamhardcore> but it prevents it in the future
[07:58] <natlinexnewb> well..im about to install 7.10. wish me...time (wont need luck cuz its auto:) ) Any tips for when i format/install?
[07:58] <Icanspamhardcore> well
[07:58] <natlinexnewb> should i do the partition for boot thing?
[07:58] <Icanspamhardcore> do you want to dual boot
[07:58] <prince_jammys> jay-oh-en: as far as i know, you don't
[07:58] <Icanspamhardcore> or just ubuntu
[07:58] <natlinexnewb> erm....
[07:58] <jay-oh-en> PriceChild, k
[07:58] <jay-oh-en> oops
[07:59] <jay-oh-en> prince_jammys,
[07:59] <natlinexnewb> i think ill QEMU for anything i need in win
[07:59] <Frogzoo> natlinexnewb: just be sure to put /home on a separate partition
[07:59] <Icanspamhardcore> easy terms: do you want windows and ubuntu or just ubuntu
[08:00] <icesword> chatzilla is eating much of my mem
[08:00] <zcat[1]> When's hardy alpha5 out? If it's less than two days away I won't bother grabbing alpha4 right now...
[08:00] <ATG> has anyone had this problem, aside from myself? Whenever I use GIMP for more than a couple of minutes, the entire OS freezes
[08:00] <natlinexnewb> Frogzoo, how do i do that generally?
[08:00] <Icanspamhardcore> yea don't use chatzilla use xchat (add/remove or repos)
[08:00] <icesword> ATG: how much mem
[08:00] <ATG> but if nobody's had the same issue, I'll just deal with it, because google knows not of my problems
[08:00] <Frogzoo> natlinexnewb: choose the manual partition
[08:00] <Flannel> zcat[1]: #ubuntu+1
[08:00] <ATG> icesword, 1gb and I never go over 60% of it
[08:00] <glick> i think i should prolly go with ubtunty stead of kubuntu with my laptop
[08:01] <Icanspamhardcore> atg
[08:01] <ATG> yes?
[08:01] <Icanspamhardcore> how many ghz is your  proc
[08:01] <natlinexnewb> Frogzoo,  manual > make 2 parts > home on the big one? How much space should i allow for boot?
[08:01] <ATG> 1.52, and it runs at 100% on GIMP
[08:01] <icesword> Icanspamhardcore: but my xchat got expired
[08:01] <ATG> this is what I'm hoping is the problem
[08:01] <Icanspamhardcore> thats why
[08:01] <Icanspamhardcore> if you overclock you crash
[08:01] <zcat[1]> nobody talking there
[08:01] <ATG> although, it never goes over 56 celsius, so it's not overheating
[08:01] <Icanspamhardcore> I  would know from experience :(
[08:01] <ATG> it's not overclocked
[08:02] <ATG> stock athlon with a big assed heatsink
[08:02] <hp_zouil> salut
[08:02] <ATG> on an MSI board
[08:02] <ATG> hi
[08:02] <Icanspamhardcore> if your processor goes to 100% it overclocks after 5-10 seconds
[08:02] <Frogzoo> natlinexnewb: you need about 10gig for a generous install, give yourself a one gig swap partition also
[08:02] <icesword> Icanspamhardcore: do you see me
[08:02] <Icanspamhardcore> yes
[08:02] <Icanspamhardcore> I see you
[08:02] <Flannel> zcat[1]: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule
[08:02] <ATG> icanspamhardcore: perhaps this is true of Intel procs, but mine doesn't support scaling
[08:02] <Icanspamhardcore> wtf
[08:02] <natlinexnewb> Frogzoo,  got an 80g so no prob. thanx
[08:03] <Icanspamhardcore> well
[08:03] <Icanspamhardcore> do you have an AMD
[08:03] <of> anyone wish to help a new linux user connect to a network ?
[08:03] <ATG> I do
[08:03] <zcat[1]> thanks Flannel
[08:03] <ATG> athlon 1800+
[08:03] <Icanspamhardcore> of: open terminal and type sudo aptitude install samba
[08:03] <pawan> how to repair grub
[08:04] <Icanspamhardcore> pawan: find a guide by searching ubuntuforums, it will require a liveCD
[08:04] <natlinexnewb> hopefully...see you soon.
[08:04] <icesword> of
[08:04] <ATG> Hm. If, as you say, my proc is overclocking itself, would that show up on ubuntu's built in cpu freq/scaling monitor?
[08:04] <pawan> i booted using livecd 6.06
[08:04] <prince_jammys> !grub
[08:04] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:04] <pawan> my installed version is 7.10
[08:05] <Icanspamhardcore> pawan
[08:05] <icesword> pawan:u still there
[08:05] <Icanspamhardcore> you should try a 7.10 livecd
[08:05] <jay-oh-en> whats the command to delete and see the progress of what your deleting
[08:05] <icesword> pawan: u can boot into windows ,dn't u
[08:05] <pawan> 7.10 livecd is not showing graphics
[08:05] <pawan> so using 6.06
[08:05] <pawan> yes
[08:06] <icesword> jay-oh-en: process?
[08:06] <Icanspamhardcore> it's  right click>move to trash then open trash and click empty, it will show progress
[08:06] <jay-oh-en> icesword, ? i meant like see what files are being deleted and at like what percent or whatever
[08:07] <icesword> i am wondering why #ubuntu rolling so slowly this day
[08:07] <Ihaveareallylong> ...
[08:07] <pocketdrummer> pawan: what kind of video card are you using?
[08:07] <pawan> nvidia
[08:07] <icesword> and sometimes it does
[08:07] <of> someone please help me?
[08:08] <longannoyingname> ok
[08:08] <longannoyingname> what do you need
[08:08] <OmegaCenti> Okay, this little fix to enable vga=791 with framebuffer in consoles wants me messing around with initramfs, and I don't have a man page for initramfs, what the heck is initram fs
[08:08] <pocketdrummer> pawan: Same happens for me, when you put the disc in, type xmodule=vesa after all the other text there.
[08:08] <of> trying to get my computer connected to my lan so i can get online
[08:08] <longannoyingname> oh
[08:08] <longannoyingname> easy
[08:08] <of> lol
[08:08] <longannoyingname> ok so do you need drivers
[08:08] <zcat[1]> omegaCenti man mkinitramfs
[08:08] <longannoyingname> or a networking program
[08:09] <of> the drivers seem to be loaded
[08:09] <prince_jammys> OmegaCenti man initramfs.conf
[08:09] <of> or so i'm told from what i've asked people
[08:09] <longannoyingname> if it's  drivers go to sys>admin>restricted drivers manager and install stuff
[08:09] <longannoyingname> if it's software that you need simply type sudo aptitude install samba
[08:09] <zcat[1]> of: if your lan is properly configured and you have any moderately common network card, you should only need to plug it in
[08:10] <pawan> or should i connect monitor to my motherboard and not graphics card
[08:10] <longannoyingname> pawan: bad idea it will screw up xorg.conf
[08:10] <spaz> :o
[08:10] <OmegaCenti> zcat[1]: prince_jammys How much of a bad idea do you think it would be to add fbcon to //blahblah/inits something here -tools/modules then ubdate initrd.img and then restart?
[08:10] <spaz> i fixed it! somehow...
[08:10] <pawan> then
[08:10] <spaz> i just booted and it works
[08:10] <of> after i type in sudo aptitude install samba........ what do i do?
[08:11] <prince_jammys> OmegaCenti no clue ... was reading the man page myself
[08:11] <longannoyingname> well what was the output
[08:11] <spaz> thanks uh...people who helped me whose names escape me atm
[08:11] <[dcr]> How on earth do I install my graphics driver on ubuntu?
[08:11] <prince_jammys> OmegaCenti have never messed with that file
[08:11] <pawan> !pastebin
[08:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:11] <longannoyingname> drc:go to sys>admin>restricted drivers manager
[08:11] <[dcr]> I dont see it there though.
[08:11] <zcat[1]> [dcr]: system > admin > restricted drivers manager , usually
[08:12] <icesword> i use windows as host,linux as a guest,how to see files on windows in linux system?
[08:12] <OmegaCenti> Is there ever going to be a fix for blank screens in consoles after setting a cga mode in grub for Gutsy?!
[08:12] <OmegaCenti> zcat[1]: How much of a bad idea do you think it would be to add fbcon to //blahblah/inits something here -tools/modules then ubdate initrd.img and then restart?
[08:12] <pocketdrummer> [dcr]: what kind of graphics are you using?
[08:12] <zcat[1]> OmegaCenti: If you're following a howto somewhere, it should probably be OK..
[08:12] <of> e: could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:12] <longannoyingname> ok
[08:12] <OmegaCenti> zcat[1]: not a howto, a fix/workaround
[08:12] <longannoyingname> what programs do you have running right now of
[08:13] <zcat[1]> OmegaCenti: it might work.. it might fail horribly. Do you keep good backups ? :-)
[08:13] <of> e: unable to lock the administration director /var/lib/dpkg is another process using it?
[08:13] <longannoyingname> of
[08:13] <prince_jammys> !aptfix | of
[08:13] <ubotu> of: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[08:13] <[dcr]> either a intel VGA chipset
[08:13] <[dcr]> or some nvida VGa chipset shit
[08:13] <[dcr]> i dont know, i looked up my lappy on the support site and it has both
[08:14] <pocketdrummer> [dcr]: What kind of laptop is it? I'll try to find out.
[08:14] <of> hmmmm
[08:14] <[dcr]> Acer Aspire 5630
[08:14] <zcat[1]> gtg
[08:14] <of> i tried it a second time
[08:14] <[dcr]> and ty.
[08:14] <longannoyingname> ok
[08:14] <longannoyingname> of
[08:14] <of> got several " done "
[08:14] <of> hmmmm
[08:14] <longannoyingname> ok
[08:14] <longannoyingname> so you closed other admin app
[08:14] <of> i see a  " no candidate version found for samba "
[08:15] <longannoyingname> did you enable all the repos
[08:15] <of> the restricted driver thing
[08:15] <longannoyingname> no no thtat
[08:15] <of> i dont know what a repo is
[08:15] <of> can we pm?
[08:15] <longannoyingname> ok
[08:15] <longannoyingname> close terminal
[08:15] <longannoyingname> go to sys>admin>software sources
[08:16] <longannoyingname> on the first tab tick all the boxes and close the windows
[08:16] <longannoyingname> when it asks press reload
[08:17] <of> you mean ubuntu software?
[08:17] <longannoyingname> yes
[08:17] <longannoyingname> on the first tab
[08:17] <longannoyingname> tick all the boxes so they are checked
[08:17] <longannoyingname> then close the window and click reload
[08:18] <longannoyingname> hello?
[08:18] <speeddemon8803> oops, gary i left you man, sorry
[08:19] <longannoyingname> its ok
[08:19] <longannoyingname> I forgive you
[08:19] <of> lol
[08:19] <of> for what
[08:19] <longannoyingname> I  was talking to speed
[08:19] <longannoyingname> being stupid
[08:19] <longannoyingname> because I am bored
[08:19] <wng-> someone told me before, that theres a command you run before running games to enable direct rendering after installing xserver-xgl, does anyone know what it is?
[08:19] <longannoyingname> lol
[08:19] <longannoyingname> try xserver-xgl
[08:20] <wng-> no thats not it, its setting some variable
[08:20] <of> " could not download all repository indexes
[08:20] <wng-> i just don't remember what it is
[08:20] <longannoyingname> wtf
[08:20] <pocketdrummer> [dcr] It seems like that laptop has two configurations available. There's one with an integrated Intel GMA 950 and another with a nVidia GeForce Go 7300.
[08:20] <longannoyingname> of: is your computer smoking crack/drinking too much beer
[08:20] <of> nope
[08:20] <of> not enough beer
[08:20] <pocketdrummer> [dcr]: It should only have one or the other though.
[08:20] <longannoyingname> lol
[08:21] <Gary> longannoyingname, please remember this channel is for support
[08:21] <longannoyingname> unless your internet sux it should work
[08:21] <longannoyingname> and I am assuming you don't have dial up
[08:21] <of> " the repositry might be no longer available or could not be contacted because of network problems "
[08:21] <Onyx> Is there a way to get gedit to display html syntax highlighting for shtml files?
[08:21] <of> lol... dsl
[08:21] <longannoyingname> well
[08:21] <longannoyingname> not great
[08:21] <longannoyingname> but better than dial up
[08:22] <of> when i reopen software sources all 5 boxes are checked
[08:22] <longannoyingname> ok
[08:22] <longannoyingname> go to add/remove
[08:22] <of> okay
[08:22] <pocketdrummer> Is there a way to look up attached hardware to linux, and would it be able to detect which video card you were running without drivers installed for it?
[08:23] <longannoyingname> search for "samba" without the quotes
[08:23] <of> " the list of available applications is out of date " ......... click close?
[08:23] <longannoyingname> click reload
[08:23] <Soludra> I installed the NVIDIA drivers with Envy, and everything works fine EXCEPT that my resolution is locked to 640x480 and I can't change it. Any help?
[08:24] <longannoyingname> for the record
[08:24] <longannoyingname> envy isn't  supported
[08:24] <longannoyingname> at all
[08:24] <prince_jammys> pocketdrummer: Preferences->Hardware Information
[08:24] <of> was unable to find samba
[08:24] <longannoyingname> ...
[08:24] <longannoyingname> did click reload return any errors
[08:24] <of> yes
[08:25] <of> i closed and reopened add/remove
[08:25] <longannoyingname> ok, do you want me to walk you through adding a custom repo, it has like 500 packages, including samba (which is needed to network linaux and windows machines)
[08:25] <of> didn't ask to reload that time
[08:25] <Soludra> longannoyingname: maybe it would have been best if I hadn't mentioned Envy. Also for the record, it worked better than what I've tried before.
[08:25] <longannoyingname> ok
[08:25] <of> but was unable to find samba
[08:26] <longannoyingname> well I was just putting out there that it isn't officially supported
[08:26] <chazco> Hi... update manager is saying I have an update but wont install it. It seems to be clashing with v4l. How can I force it to install?
[08:26] <longannoyingname> ok of
[08:26] <chazco> Its a linux image update btw
[08:26] <longannoyingname> can you join a less crowded channel
[08:26] <longannoyingname> type /join #rainbow
[08:26] <of> i tried to pm you
[08:26] <longannoyingname> ok
[08:27] <longannoyingname> did you see that just now
[08:27] <of> see what?
[08:30] <rosebuntu> hi, everyone
[08:30] <chazco> Synaptic gives the same error
[08:31] <rosebuntu> what is problem, chazo?
[08:31] <chazco> Trying to update the linux kernel image, but its clashing with a custom v4l-dvb installation. Should be safe to force it to overwrite, but i cant figure out how :)
[08:32] <Tankado> How can i issue the kill command on a freezed window?
[08:32] <Tankado> i want to close it
[08:32] <DAC1138> Tankado: xkill
[08:32] <natlinuxnewb> how do i make the CD autorun?
[08:32] <Tankado> yeah but how do i get to that place i write it
[08:32] <DAC1138> Tankado: open a terminal
[08:33] <Tankado> i need to hold some keys i remember there is a short cut and then just point at the window
[08:33] <DAC1138> Tankado: applications > accessories > terminal
[08:33] <DAC1138> Tankado: ah, i don't know of such a shortcut.
[08:33] <ATG> hey guys, I found a new feature in Ubuntu! If you don't save your work in GIMP for about 15 minutes or so, it spontaneously freezes the system to promote better saving habits! Cool, huh?
[08:33] <Tankado> ok thanks
[08:33] <ATG> lol, just kidding
[08:33] <ATG> but I did figure out what my problem was, i think
[08:34] <rosebuntu> hey guys, where are you from?
[08:34] <natlinuxnewb> How do I make the CD auto run...with a command. My CD has jammed shut. I need to make the CD autorun.
[08:34] <ComradeMirror`> anyone know any good ubuntu themes?
[08:34] <ATG> if I run rhythmbox and gimp at the same time, it quickly freezes, though I have much RAM left. I think it's a CPU overloading issue
[08:34] <DAC1138> Tankado: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-202558.html
[08:34] <mkquist> ATG: yeah, had probs w/gimp myself...  so what did u do to gix it?
[08:34] <ATG> ComradeMirror, get Emerald. Then play around as you will
[08:34] <mkquist> fix*
[08:34] <ATG> mkquist, I stopped running Rhythmbox at the same time
[08:35] <ATG> my CPU apparently can't take it
[08:35] <ph0rensic> ComradeMirror`: check out wii-black
[08:35] <mkquist> ATG: might have been guilty of running both too... hmm might hafta try that
[08:35] <void^> screen -Ur
[08:35] <ATG> ah well; probably getting a 3gHz P4 soon... trying to move from AMD/ATi to Intel/nVidia
[08:35] <void^> uh. i was almost sure this was my terminal window.
[08:35] <ATG> lol
[08:35] <natlinuxnewb> Anyone know how to make the CD autorun without opening the door?
[08:36] <neerolyte> void^ it is, now you just have to login.
[08:36] <chazco> Is there any way to force a package to upgrade even if it conflicts with something else?
[08:36] <ATG> neerolyte: i see what you did there...
[08:36] <pocketdrummer> Does anyone know how to revert from gutsy to feisty?
[08:36] <ATG> pocketdrummer: why do you need to?
[08:37] <jay-oh-en> i have a 14 gb root and it keeps saying im out of space is there anythign i can delete
[08:37] <chazco> Also, anyone know if its possible to disable subtitles in totem with crashing the system?
[08:37] <jay-oh-en> or can i make it bigger
[08:37] <pocketdrummer> ATG: I don't personally, but the knowledge is good to have.
[08:37] <ComradeMirror`> okay
[08:38] <jay-oh-en> chazco, sudo apt-get update && upgrade
[08:38] <ComradeMirror`> right now Im baffled on how you install/download themes
[08:38] <clusty> i am having a problem with ftpfs
[08:38] <Ryuho> why
[08:38] <clusty> doing fusermount ftpfs:\\admin@192.168.178.100 backup/
[08:38] <chazco> jay-oh-en - As I understand it thats like what upgrade manager does... and that fails :(
[08:38] <Ryuho> ComradeMirror` how should people handle themes
[08:38] <clusty> gives fusermount: old style mounting not supported
[08:38] <natlinuxnewb> :(
[08:38] <clusty> am I doing anything wrong?
[08:38] <ph0rensic> pocketdrummer: why would you want to do that
[08:38] <ComradeMirror`> is there anyway to edit theme other than system>appearances?
[08:38] <jay-oh-en> i have a 14 gb root and it keeps saying im out of space is there anythign i can delete
[08:39] <jay-oh-en> or can i make it bigger
[08:39] <chazco> Yep, apt-get failed too
[08:39] <ATG> ComradeMirror, look around for a program called Emerald
[08:39] <rosebuntu> hey guys, where are you from??
[08:39] <ComradeMirror`> is it in the synaptic program?
[08:39] <ComradeMirror`> or adeptus package manager IDK what it is called now
[08:39] <Ryuho> cali,usa
[08:39] <ph0rensic> ComradeMirror`: Download it first.. go to gnome-look.org
[08:39] <prince_jammys> ComradeMirror`: you may have it already
[08:39] <ATG> rosebuntu: I'm in your house. In fact, I'm right behind you. DON'T TURN AROU--
[08:39] <pteague> anybody know how to mount the computer's hard drives via the live cd?  considering i don't know the password to su to root or sudo ?
[08:39] <Soludra> I recently installed some updated NVIDIA drivers, and my resolution is locked to 640x480. I can't figure out how to get it back up to that higher resolutions I had before.
[08:40] <rosebuntu> ryuho/ i hear you USA
[08:40] <ph0rensic> pteague: No Im pretty sure you need the pw for sudo to mount the drives
[08:40] <Ryuho> YAY USA!USA~USA.
[08:40] <ph0rensic> Soludra: You tried reconfiguring X?
[08:40] <Soludra> Yes. Several times.
[08:40] <pteague> ph0rensic> yes, i'm refering to booting using the live cd & then trying to mount the fat32 drives from windows
[08:41] <rosebuntu> do you know Korea? i'm Korean
[08:41] <ph0rensic> Soludra: What about editing the file?
[08:41] <Soludra> Which file?
[08:41] <jay-oh-en> !res | Soludra
[08:41] <ubotu> Soludra: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:41] <ph0rensic> pteague: hmm you'd think the disk would automount the drives huh
[08:41] <Ryuho> i'm actually japanese
[08:41] <jay-oh-en> i have a 14 gb root and it keeps saying im out of space is there anythign i can delete
[08:41] <jay-oh-en> !res | Soludra
[08:42] <jay-oh-en> or can i make it bigger
[08:42] <pteague> ph0rensic> um, the *live* cd doesn't mount anything
[08:42] <warriorforgod> CyanideD: /quit
[08:42] <henroc> If you've setup LDAP authentication, is there any way to limit logon to more than one workstation by the same user?
[08:42] <rosebuntu> Koreans like Japanease
[08:42] <Soludra> Ah, that's handy, thanks jay-oh-en.
[08:42] <Ryuho> nah dude
[08:42] <ph0rensic> pteague: It mounted some of my drives
[08:42] <jay-oh-en> welcome
[08:42] <clusty> jay-oh-en, you can boot from the installation CD
[08:42] <Ryuho> the elderly hates each other
[08:42] <clusty> and write gparted in a console
[08:42] <henroc> I've been doing some google searching for awhile, but not getting much
[08:42] <chazco> dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic_2.6.22-14.52_i386.deb seems to do the trick
[08:42] <Ryuho> sry chan, off topic, we'll stop
[08:42] <rosebuntu> i'm not old
[08:42] <ph0rensic> pteague: I possibly could be imagining things...???
[08:42] <mkquist> anyone have better luck backing up dvds in linux as opposed to windows?  (no flames or such please. legit question)
[08:42] <jay-oh-en> clusty, can i do it from my desktop right now?
[08:43] <clusty> no way
[08:43] <pocketdrummer> ph0rensic: someone is asking me, and I don't know.
[08:43] <clusty> you have to boot from a different device
[08:43] <ph0rensic> pocketdrummer: Why would they want to do that
[08:43] <rosebuntu> does anybody know when will Hardy beta come?
[08:43] <[dcr]> I might just have to get Cedega, but i think you have to pay for it?
[08:43] <clusty> to unmount the root and resize
[08:43] <pteague> ph0rensic> hmm...  i know that once you *install* from the live cd it automounts any windows drives, but i don't think i've ever seen it mount existing drives when booting off the cd
[08:43] <pocketdrummer> ph0rensic: Issues with wine in gutsy
[08:43] <jay-oh-en> clusty, well why would it be full people use 4 gb partion for linux why is mine full when its 14.1gb
[08:43] <clusty> but might not be smart if you are not confident as you might loose data
[08:44] <natlinuxnewb> Please I need help. I currently have 5.04. I have a 7.10 iso that I've burned to CD. I'd like to install 7.10 tonight. My CD drives has jammed shut but i can still read the drive. How can I command the CD to autorun?
[08:44] <clusty> jay-oh-en, you installed all sorts of crap
[08:44] <CM`> I got emerald
[08:44] <clusty> :D
[08:44] <CM`> and Im on gnome-look
[08:44] <clusty> start synaptic and delete packages
[08:44] <ph0rensic> pteague: Perhaps you are right.. it doesn't automount my drive anymore..probably my fault somewhere along the way though
[08:44] <jay-oh-en> clusty, not alot
[08:44] <chazco> Anyone know how to disable subtitles in Totem with crashing it?
[08:44] <rosebuntu> natinux / double click CD image in gnome
[08:45] <jay-oh-en> clusty, i think its my webserver
[08:45] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: Hmm interesting what to do after you get everything installed.. new dvd drive?
[08:45] <jay-oh-en> clusty, i have like a million videos in it
[08:45] <natlinuxnewb> ph0rensic, yes definatly
[08:46] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: Dont you need to boot into the install to install it though
[08:46] <rosebuntu> ubuntu is King Wang JJang
[08:46] <clusty> jay-oh-en, duhh
[08:46] <clusty> :D
[08:46] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: boot to the disk
[08:46] <jay-oh-en> clusty, how do i make a diferent folder my webserver
[08:46] <jay-oh-en> ?
[08:46] <clusty> any1 can help me with my ftpfs problem?
[08:46] <clusty> jay-oh-en, this starts getting complicated
[08:46] <jay-oh-en> lol
[08:46] <clusty> i can do it
[08:47] <clusty> but explaining ti is complicated
[08:47] <natlinuxnewb> rosebuntu, ph0rensic,  not that image. I've already written it to the CD. Now I have an install disk. ph0rensic: I tried that and it said "Can't execute Hal"
[08:47] <pocketdrummer> !wine
[08:47] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[08:47] <jay-oh-en> im pretty advanced user of linux clusty
[08:47] <clusty> look at /etc/apache/httpd.conf
[08:47] <clusty> you define an alias
[08:47] <jay-oh-en> clusty, me?
[08:47] <clusty> alias /my_new_place /home/asldalsdlasld
[08:47] <clusty> yes
[08:47] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: So the install CD wont boot is what your saying giving you that cannot execute HAL error
[08:47] <jay-oh-en> k
[08:47] <rosebuntu> please advice your freinds to insatll ubuntu
[08:48] <wers> how do I install a theme manually? :)
[08:48] <jay-oh-en> clusty, why not just explain it?
[08:48] <clusty> you might also have to define preferences for the new place
[08:48] <Indust> hiho, i wanna opengl via my ati on my gibbon kubuntu. but following the tutorials i found ... i get results like "not okay". ^^ pls help me find a tutorial or whatsoever
[08:48] <natlinuxnewb> ph0rensic,  im guessing. Had trouble with the drive before. If i can get installed I wont need to use the drive... catch 22
[08:48] <clusty> in between Location...
[08:48] <CM`> after I get emerald how do I actually use it to get themes?
[08:49] <clusty> any1 can help me with my fuse problem?
[08:49] <rosebuntu> go to art.gnome.org
[08:49] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: hmmm we should check into that error
[08:49] <rosebuntu> ubuntu is great
[08:49] <natlinuxnewb> ph0rensic,  not surprising really...considering the CD drive is 6/7 years old ;). But i need it too work now.
[08:50] <rosebuntu> ubuntu is all over the world
[08:50] <rosebuntu> Mark Shuttleworth is my hero
[08:50] <pocketdrummer> Is there a way to completely remove a potentially corrupt installation of Wine?
[08:51] <jay-oh-en> pocketdrummer, yeah synaptic
[08:51] <Flannel> pocketdrummer: the wine program itself is corrupt? or a windows program?
[08:51] <nilou> Hi people, is there any way to install python rahther than CGI in Apache?
[08:51] <Flannel> pocketdrummer: or you just want to get rid of *everything* and start over?
[08:51] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: Hmm I dunno not seeing too many relevant hits on how
[08:52] <pocketdrummer> Flannel: Pretty much
[08:52] <lyte> nilou: python is a language CGI is an interface, you can run python through CGI i think...
[08:52] <Flannel> pocketdrummer: in synaptic "completely remove" wine, then delete your .wine directory in your homedir
[08:52] <natlinuxnewb> Q. why when I downloaded the 7.10 iso did it give me a disk full of .exe and windows files? Wheres the linux part of it? (I thought linux didnt use exe?
[08:52] <Agent_bob> hey guys.   i'm missing a file for software midi   it's from the debian repos  does anyone know what i'm talking about?
[08:52] <jay-oh-en> how do i change the permissions of a file?
[08:53] <Agent_bob> jay-oh-en chmod
[08:53] <natlinuxnewb> jay-oh-en, using gnome?
[08:53] <natlinuxnewb> jay-oh-en, nvm
[08:53] <rosebuntu> ubuntu iso is a bootable CD
[08:53] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: Have you considered forcing the drive open (I did this do a dvd drive that died on me a few days ago)
[08:53] <jay-oh-en> how do i change the permissions of a directory? i mean
[08:53] <Agent_bob> same way
[08:53] <jay-oh-en> kay
[08:53] <lyte> jay-oh-en: on the cli just use chmod --help to find the right flag, look for recursive
[08:53] <macogw> rosebuntu: youre preaching to the choir
[08:53] <jay-oh-en> Agent_bob, if i wanted my user to be able to use it what would it be
[08:53] <ph0rensic> -R
[08:53] <Flannel> natlinuxnewb: There are some FOSS stuff that are windows programs as well, yes.  That's the right one.  They are *just* windows programs (meant to be a introduction to FOSS)
[08:53] <pocketdrummer> Flannel: I'm trying to help [dcr] get guild wars to work. He has a laptop with (we think) an intel GMA 950 graphics chip. He's running Gutsy and installed wine using a terminal method (we think). He's getting a video error when he tries to run the game, so we're trying to get to the bottom of the issue.
[08:54] <nilou> lyte: Yes you are right, i mean i want to install python in Apache not through CGI
[08:54] <natlinuxnewb> ph0rensic, I have considered it. Was hoping theres a command that I can type in terminal
[08:54] <ph0rensic> chmod 755 -R /dir <-- should look like that
[08:54] <rosebuntu> macogw / it's my hobby and pleasure
[08:54] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: But you how can you install if you cant boot it?
[08:54] <jay-oh-en> ph0rensic, what about 1000
[08:54] <Agent_bob> jay-oh-en well let me cut to the hard part first.  what is the fs in question  ext#  or ntfs/vfat ?
[08:54] <natlinuxnewb> ph0rensic, exactly
[08:54] <Flannel> pocketdrummer: Alright, well, `sudo apt-get remove --purge wine && rm -rf ~/.wine` and he'll be starting fresh.
[08:55] <ph0rensic> jay-oh-en: I didn't follow the question.. what was it?
[08:55] <majikins> hi can anyone point me to the right documentation for a linux domain controller for linux workstations?
[08:55] <natlinuxnewb> ph0rensic,  I can read the drive but *that* time it didnt read it.
[08:55] <jay-oh-en> Agent_bob, what?
[08:55] <natlinuxnewb> I think....getting a new drive will fix the problem. :\
[08:55] <pocketdrummer> Flannel: So, just to make completely sure, it is exactly    `sudo apt-get remove --purge wine && rm -rf ~/.wine`     right?
[08:55] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: Well try till it will?
[08:56] <lyte> nilou: i think libapache2-mod-python is what you're looking for
[08:56] <Agent_bob> jay-oh-en M$ file systems dont have permissions bit.   is it on vfat or ntfs ?
[08:56] <majikins> using nfs and having the workstations mount the correct nfs mounted home directory on login
[08:56] <Flannel> pocketdrummer: right.  The first completely removes wine (the package) the second bit removes your wine directory (where all your wine config/programs are)
[08:56] <rosebuntu> mount -t /dev/cdrom
[08:56]  * natlinuxnewb pulls out his paper clip
[08:56] <rosebuntu> cdrom drive will work
 mount -t /dev/cdrom <<<  type /dev/cdrom ???
[08:57] <ph0rensic> rosebuntu: I think it is mounted just not running?
[08:57] <majikins> anyone?
[08:57] <natlinuxnewb> rose...you actually not being helpful. :)
[08:57] <ph0rensic> rosebuntu: you could be right.
[08:57] <Ensou> hi | can i get help with ps3 ubuntu here?
[08:58] <rosebuntu> sorry
[08:58] <natlinuxnewb> rosebuntu, sec. Ill try what you said
[08:58] <jay-oh-en> Agent_bob, i dont use ntfs or vfat i use ubuntu's filesystem
[08:58] <Agent_bob> jay-oh-en ok then you want something like    chmod 755 /path/to/dir
[08:58] <nilou> lyte: I alredy installed this module, but the problem is that in CGI the program is suppose to just print to the console and then the webserver is responsible for transfering the output to the client but ...
[08:58] <jay-oh-en> Agent_bob, it still says the owner is root
[08:59] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: rosebuntu was just trying to help.. dont get down on him just because the help wasn't what you wanted... atleast hes trying to help
[08:59] <kiLLa> i don't download program in linux why?
[08:59] <rosebuntu> ph0rensic / thank you
[08:59] <natlinuxnewb> ph0rensic, yeah i know. Thats why i tried what he said. Sorry rosebuntu: I know you were trying to help
[08:59] <rosebuntu> i am a helpful person
[08:59] <jay-oh-en> Agent_bob, its permissions are still root
[08:59] <brucebot> hi,guys,is there anyone here using ubuntu to share files with Nokia N73 via Bluetooth?
[08:59] <Agent_bob> jay-oh-en then you want to own the dir not change the perms.      sudo chown your_name:your_group /path/to/dir
[09:00] <jay-oh-en> ok i get it
[09:00] <kiLLa>  i don't download program in linux why?
[09:00] <natlinuxnewb> just got to my...annoyance level. Been at this since 5 days ago
[09:00] <Agent_bob> jay-oh-en that's not permission thats ownership   different critters
[09:00] <Ensou> anyone with ubuntu on playstation 3 ?
[09:00] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: sorry, just tyring to keep it friendly.. I wouldn't want someone to make me feel like a noob when Im only trying to help
[09:00] <jay-oh-en> Agent_bob, well it says permissions lol
[09:00] <nilou> lyte: what happenes is that when i write this program: "PRINT HELLO WORLD" it wont show up on the browser but when i return string containing exactly the same string with exception that it is returned by a function called index it works
[09:01] <natlinuxnewb> ph0rensic Thanx. I appreciate it.
[09:01] <Agent_bob> jay-oh-en can't help what it says.   i'll repost the command if you need it.
[09:01] <Agent_bob> jay-oh-en then you want to own the dir not change the perms.      sudo chown your_name:your_group /path/to/dir
[09:01] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: So what are we going to do with your disk
[09:01] <rosebuntu> is anybody else except american? i'm korean
[09:01] <natlinuxnewb> ph0rensic, The paper clips works
[09:01] <Ensou> rosebuntu > thailand here
[09:01] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: paperclips???
[09:01] <jay-oh-en> Agent_bob, well its not working it still says root should i use -r?
[09:01] <natlinuxnewb> ph0rensic, just trying to see if itll install
[09:02] <Agent_bob> jay-oh-en but! let me caution you.   you don't want to go messing with ownership and permissions on system directories.
[09:02] <jay-oh-en> Agent_bob, its desktop
[09:02] <lyte> nilou: sorry have to go make dinner, but this is outside of my scope anyway, a channel about apache or python would probably be the right place to find out where the actual place you should be asking this question is though
[09:02] <rosebuntu> ensou / yeh. thailand is good
[09:02] <jay-oh-en> Agent_bob, its a file on my desktp
[09:02] <natlinuxnewb> ph0rensic, yeah paperclips...force opening the CD drive. That little hole for for that purpose
[09:02] <ph0rensic> jay-oh-en: What he is saying your system may not work if you chown the wrong system files
[09:02] <Agent_bob> jay-oh-en how did you make that root owned in the first place.... never mind i think i know.
[09:02] <Ensou> rosebuntu > thailand is good yeah and my connection sucks
[09:03] <Agent_bob> !gksudo | jay-oh-en
[09:03] <ubotu> jay-oh-en: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[09:03] <pawan12> hi
[09:03] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: oh hmm.. I like the brute force ++ knife technique myself
[09:03] <pawan12> how to repair grub
[09:03] <CM`> hey on ubuntu can you navigate sort of with like mouse strokes
[09:03] <rosebuntu> Korea is more worse
[09:03] <CM`> move your mouse top the top left and you can do stuff
[09:03] <CM`> or am I thinking of PC linux
[09:03] <Frogzoo> !grub | pawan12
[09:03] <ubotu> pawan12: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:03] <macogw> CM`: compiz can do some of that
[09:03] <pocketdrummer> So, if you install Wine from the http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt gutsy main repository on a 64-bit version of Ubuntu, does it install a 64-bit version of wine or a 32-bit version?
[09:03] <ph0rensic> <-- been to thailand but not korea
[09:03] <macogw> CM`: you mean stuff like "expose" on a mac?
[09:03] <CM`> how do I use compiz x.x
[09:04] <CM`> I cant figure out how to customize my linux
[09:04] <CM`> it is driving me crazy
[09:04] <CM`> I can't even change the theme
[09:04] <jay-oh-en> Agent_bob, it was a file in my webserver and it was owned by root but then when i moved it to my desktop it was still owned by root
[09:04] <pawan12> grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
[09:04] <pawan12>  (hd1,6)
[09:04] <pawan12> now
[09:04] <macogw> CM`: its pre-installed with ubuntu 7.10 (gutsy).  lots of config options require you have compizconfig-settings-manager installed
[09:04] <Ensou> ph0rensic > :)
[09:04] <Ensou> so there's nobody here with a ps3 ...?
[09:04] <Agent_bob> Frogzoo don't happen to know the debian .deb that expands software midi do you ?
[09:04] <Frogzoo> pocketdrummer: wine does not & will not run on 64 bit
[09:04] <ph0rensic> CM you have it installed?
[09:04] <nilou> here is what exactly i mean: http://pastebin.ca/904808
[09:05] <Frogzoo> Agent_bob: apt-cache search midi | less
[09:05] <pocketdrummer> Frogzoo: You sure? Cuz, that's how I installed it and it's running like a charm, lol.
[09:05] <macogw> CM`: customizing theme stuff... install emerald as well so you have transparent window borders for compiz, and you can drag n drop gtk themes from gnome-look.org into the tool in system -> preferences -> appearance
[09:05] <pawan12> grub> root (hd1,6)
[09:05] <pawan12>  Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
[09:05] <Agent_bob> Frogzoo it's not in the ubuntu repos  so that's kinda useless
[09:05] <natlinuxnewb> :( now its not doing anything at all. I've had enough for tonight. I'll see ....Sec... is there any way I can download an update directly?
[09:05] <CM`> I got emerald
[09:05] <ph0rensic> CM`: Do you have CCSM installed?
[09:05] <CM`> I also got GTK themes
[09:05] <Frogzoo> Agent_bob: ah
[09:05] <ph0rensic> CM`: What version ubuntu do you have
[09:05] <jay-oh-en> Agent_bob, it still is saying root
[09:05] <CM`> 7.10
[09:05] <CM`> gutsy? I think
[09:05] <tarelerulz> I have a 64 bit Ubuntu 7.10 system.   I am wanting to use some program that lets me do voice chat on yahoo's chat networks.  I have looked at ghyach enhanded and it is all rpm and for i386 .   anyone and I try yahelite and it works ,but not for the chat room log ins
[09:05] <ph0rensic> CM`: Did you install the compiz settings manager?
[09:06] <CM`> Im gettin that right now i guess
[09:06] <pawan12> !pastebin
[09:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:06] <CM`> I though it would come with it
[09:06] <nilou> I have apache2 and libapache2-mod-python install, but i seem to face a funny problem: http://pastebin.ca/904808
[09:06] <Agent_bob> Frogzoo i have it in my package cache if i can find the name of it.     it got uninstalled somehow
[09:06] <nilou> anyone can help on that please?
[09:06] <ph0rensic> CM`: Thats probably the big thing you are looking for.. also did you get emerald-themes?
[09:06] <natlinuxnewb> tarelerulz, have you tried roger wilco or Ventrilo?
[09:06] <CM`> yeah
[09:06] <CM`> I got emerald themes
[09:06] <CM`> how do I load theme times too I went to gnome-look.com
[09:07] <CM`> and downloaded files they were in tar.gz format
[09:07] <CM`> inside them there is no theme file
[09:07] <tarelerulz> natlinuxnewb , I have not try either of those ? what are they ?
[09:07] <pawan12> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56042/
[09:07] <Agent_bob> Frogzoo but i have thousands of file in my package cache, so i don't know a good way to search for it.
[09:07] <brizben> Hi there I want to copy a cd but the only space big enough I have is on an external drive /media/disk can someone tell me how to do this. Right click > copy disk comes back with not enough space.
[09:07] <natlinuxnewb> tarelerulz, how do you connect to the tahoo chat service?
[09:07] <ph0rensic> CM`: THere is an installer in emerald
[09:08] <natlinuxnewb> tarelerulz, *yahoo
[09:08] <ph0rensic> brizben: Have you tried using the command line?
[09:08] <tarelerulz> I use pidgin right now and I have cable internet and I use ndiswrapper for my wireless card
[09:09] <[dcr]> tarelerulz: try Kopete ? and for IRC try Konversation? X.x;
[09:09] <jay-oh-en> Agent_bob, okay its fixed but now how do i move all of the files in the dir to a diff dir without doing it file by file
[09:09] <CM`> there is an instaler in emerald
[09:09] <CM`> ?
[09:09] <brizben> ph0rensic, yes I tried to genisoimage to /media/disk from the cd rom but I could not figure it out.
[09:09] <natlinuxnewb> tarelerulz, Sorry. I meant what do you do to join the yahoo chat services? Through a website or through a 3rd party program?
[09:09] <Agent_bob> jay-oh-en rename the dir
[09:09] <macogw> CM`: for the gnome themes, you just drag the .tar.gz into the appearance program
[09:09] <ph0rensic> CM`: Import function
[09:09] <CM`> yeah
[09:10] <CM`> it says it can't read it
[09:10] <neil_d> brizben: you can use 'dd' to create the .iso file anywhere you like
[09:10] <CM`> or see it or something
[09:10] <macogw> CM`: for emerald, run the emerald theme manager and click the import button and choose the .emerald file
[09:10] <Agent_bob> jay-oh-en mv my-old-dir-name my_new_dir_name
[09:10] <ph0rensic> brizben: You are just trying to copy a file from one place to another right?
[09:10] <natlinuxnewb> ph0rensic,  My CD is deaddead. I think just spending some $50-100 on a new drive will fix the prob.
[09:10] <brizben> neil_d, ok thanks I forgot about dd
[09:10] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: ok
[09:10] <pawan12> hello
[09:10] <pawan12> grub
[09:10] <natlinuxnewb> ph0rensic, unless... is there a way to upgrade from here?
[09:10] <brizben> ph0rensic, no I am trying to back up a cd but my desktop folder doesn't have enough space
[09:11] <jay-oh-en> Agent_bob, i dont want to rename it say i moved a folder called blah to /var/www/ now its /var/www/blah/ how do i take the files out of blah and put it in /var/www/ without doing it file by file
[09:11] <CM`> it is saying the .tar.gz is an invalid format
[09:11] <CM`> for the appearnce thing
[09:11] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: upgrade from say feisty to gutsy?
[09:11] <natlinuxnewb> I have hairy
[09:11] <ph0rensic> brizben: Oh ok sorry
[09:11] <natlinuxnewb> ph0rensic, i have hairy
[09:12] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: Hoary?
[09:12] <brizben> ph0rensic, np thank you for trying to help me
[09:12] <neil_d> jay-oh-en: nautilus can.
[09:12] <natlinuxnewb> ph0rensic, any way to get to 7.10 from the net without CD install?
[09:12] <ph0rensic> brizben: Sure thing
[09:12] <Agent_bob> jay-oh-en this is an example only.  but say you wanted it all in /bin    mv ~/Deskop/something ~/Desktop/bin ;sudo mv ~/Desktop/bin /    <<< not a good idea but very fast and affective
[09:12] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: Wait you said you have hoary thats the latest one.. its not stable yet
[09:12] <natlinuxnewb> ph0rensic,  oh sorry
[09:13] <gold44> i downloaded the latest version of ubuntu. when i try to install it failed. problem loading the kernel files. so i choose the OEM option and it works.  should i care?
[09:13] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: Did you try apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:14] <natlinuxnewb> ph0rensic,  mmmmmm... I have Ubuntu Linux 5.04 : The Hoary Hedgehog Release. Afaik thats not the latest. 7.10 is more newer
[09:14] <gold44> is the OEM version bad for me?
[09:14] <jay-oh-en> Agent_bob, i dont get it did you undersatand what i wanted to do tho?
[09:14] <Agent_bob> yes
[09:14] <CM`> gaaa my apperance won't read themes that end with .tar.gz
[09:15] <natlinuxnewb> ph0rensic,  just tried it. Says I need 0 updates. Because (i would assume) it is no longer supported.
[09:15] <blag> in bash: can i include a newline in a string variable?
[09:16] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: hang on Im running on 20% brain right now hehe
[09:16] <neil_d> jay-oh-en: one way use nautilus,  open the directory where the files are menu "Edit->Select all"   "Edit->Cut" got to destination "Edit->Paste"
[09:16] <[chr0n0s]> help! .. how do i stop mplayer from resizing aspect ratio of my videos.... some info here --> http://pastebin.com/d4e030a9c
[09:16] <Agent_bob> jay-oh-en what do you want?  you want me to write the command for you so you can just copy paste it to a terminal and not have to know what you did, or if it will blow up your pinguin ?      ok here.    mv ~/Desktop/blah ~/Desktop/www ;sudo mv ~/Desktop/www /var     <<<<  assuming that you meant blah when you said blah.
[09:16] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: hah oh ok i know why i was confused
[09:17] <blag> natlinuxnewb: the latest stable version is gutsy gibbon
[09:17] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: the new release is called hardy ..hoary is way old
[09:17] <blag> yeep
[09:17] <dotdotdo3xpoint> hey guys, I'm setting the nofile limit in /etc/security/limits.conf yet ulimit -n still shows 1024, any ideas?
[09:17] <ph0rensic> yah hardy is still in dev
[09:17] <Agent_bob> blag yes
[09:17] <natlinuxnewb> ph0rensic,  yes lol. So is there a way i can upgrade without my CD?
[09:18] <Agent_bob> blag VAR="something \n something else"
[09:18] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: There should be but I wouldn't recommend it
[09:18] <blag> Agent_bob: how do i go about including a newline in a string variable?
[09:18] <blag> Agent_bob: sry, lag...
[09:18] <natlinuxnewb> ph0rensic, blag,  ok. well...thanks for all the help tonight everyone
[09:19] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: A whole lot has changed from hoary ... I really would think it may break your syste,
[09:19] <_ruben> blag: just hit enter where you want the newline ;)
[09:19] <Agent_bob> blag you can also just hit [enter] in place of \n   the quotes is what protects the string.
[09:19] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: Umm canyou do a net install
[09:19] <jay-oh-en> Agent_bob, i will paste it in terminal but i do know what the command means its renaming the blah folder to www then im copying the file to /var thanks :d
[09:19] <jay-oh-en> :D
[09:19] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: I think we can do a whole install over net ..do you have another pc?
[09:19] <natlinuxnewb> ph0rensic, eh? thats what i asked you
[09:19] <natlinuxnewb> ph0rensic,  i do
[09:19] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: Right well I was thinking upgrade.. not install over current system
[09:20] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: Sure.. its possible let me look it up cause ive never done it
[09:20] <ph0rensic> !install | ph0rensic
[09:20] <CM`> so how do I do this? anyone?
[09:20] <ph0rensic> !install | natlinuxnewb
[09:20] <ubotu> natlinuxnewb: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[09:20] <Agent_bob> jay-oh-en ummm actually moving it to /var   there is a big differance.   one makes duplicates the other just readdresses the dir.
[09:20] <blag> Agent_bob: that dint work...  the \n printed out \n literally, and writing the variable on different lines just added a space, any other ideas?
[09:20] <ph0rensic> CM`: Do what now
[09:20] <blag> !automate > blag
[09:20] <Agent_bob> blag yea pastebin your script
[09:21] <neil_d> blag: does a <ctrl>M work ?
[09:21] <jay-oh-en> Agent_bob, it is basically overwriting /www with my blah folder called /www
[09:21] <CM`> do I need to dl gtk2?
[09:21] <jay-oh-en> Agent_bob, /var/www/
[09:21] <Agent_bob> jay yes it's a merge
[09:21] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: What is your other pc
[09:21] <jay-oh-en> Agent_bob, but you taught me somethign new thanks :D
[09:22] <[chr0n0s]> help! .. how do i stop mplayer from changing aspect ratio of my videos.... some info here --> http://pastebin.com/d4e030a9c
[09:22] <Agent_bob> jay-oh-en welcome
[09:22] <natlinuxnewb> winxp
[09:22] <blag> Agent_bob: neil_d: the first part is simply a test, everything after "exit 0" is the part in the script: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56043/
[09:22] <natlinuxnewb> ph0rensic, winxp
[09:22] <jimcooncat> jay-oh-en: mv it somewhere else first, like /home, then back to /var/www
[09:22] <CM`> I can't figure this crap out
[09:22] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: PM me?
[09:22] <natlinuxnewb> ph0rensic, reading those two links
[09:22] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: ahh ok
[09:23] <jay-oh-en> jimcooncat, i get it
[09:23] <CM`> I have emerald, I have the apperance thing I can't install themes off of gnome-look
[09:23] <CM`> I want to light my pc on fire right now
[09:23] <Agent_bob> blag you're not quoting it.
[09:23] <ph0rensic> CM`: They are downloaded to you disk?
[09:23] <CM`> yes
[09:23] <CM`> they say they're not the right format
[09:23] <ph0rensic> CM which one?
[09:23] <Agent_bob> echo "$VAR"
[09:23] <CM`> my root
[09:24] <blag> Agent_bob: what type of quotes should I be using?
[09:24] <blag> ah...
[09:24] <Agent_bob> blag "use more quotes"
[09:24] <CM`> "File format is invalid"
[09:24] <Agent_bob> echo can't see past the newline if you don't
[09:24] <CM`> the apperance manager says about tar.gz
[09:24] <ph0rensic> CM that may mean they are double compressed.. try browsing them to see if there is another archive inside of that one
[09:24] <blag> Agent_bob: great!  many thanks!
[09:24] <switchh> so, does silverlight actually work in Linux?
[09:24] <Agent_bob> and you may want extended echo     echo -e "$VAR"
[09:24] <Agent_bob> blag ^
[09:25] <blag> Agent_bob: okay, will do
[09:25] <ph0rensic> CM`: What is the package, I'll download it and we can go over it together if u want
[09:25] <blag> switchh: define "works"
[09:25] <praveen_> hi all
[09:25] <ph0rensic> HI
[09:25] <gold44> where can i buy cheap PCI video cards?
[09:25] <Agent_bob> blag  test this   VAR='boo\nhoo' ;echo "$VAR" ;echo -e "$VAR"
[09:25] <switchh> blag I mean as good (bad) as it works on windows
[09:26] <CM`> apparently not
[09:26] <ph0rensic> gold44: Craigslist?
[09:26] <macogw> gold44: Good Will
[09:26] <pawan12> grub
[09:26] <gold44> ph0rensic: oh... forgot about that one, thanks'
[09:26] <[miles]> morning #ubuntu
[09:27] <macogw> !hi > [miles]
[09:27] <gold44> macogw: ? that one is for the military?
[09:27] <praveen_> how i install rpm packages in ubuntu
[09:27] <macogw> gold44: no....
[09:27] <[chr0n0s]> help! .. how do i stop mplayer from changing aspect ratio of my videos.... some info here --> http://pastebin.com/d4e030a9c
[09:27] <Agent_bob> blag might also look at echo -e '$VAR \n $VAR'   which will surprise you.
[09:27] <pawan12> my grub
[09:27] <[chr0n0s]> praveen_, use alien
[09:27] <[miles]> guys, does anyone know of a method to put Ubuntu to a USB memory stick and make it bootable so I can using it as the installation source... the box does not have a CD-ROM drive
[09:27] <[miles]> hi macogw
[09:27] <dgjones> !install | [miles]
[09:27] <ubotu> [miles]: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[09:27] <macogw> [miles]: isostick.sh
[09:27] <praveen_> i already used alien but it will generated an .dub file
[09:28] <ph0rensic> gold44: If you lived close to me I would give you one ..
[09:28] <gold44> macogw: http://www.goodwill.org/  ?
[09:28] <macogw> gold44: Good Will is the one where people donate stuff then they sell the old junk and the money goes to poor people
[09:28] <natlinuxnewb> ph0rensic, http://lubi.sourceforge.net/unetbootin.html
[09:28] <[miles]> ah ok nice thank you!
[09:28] <dgjones> [miles], specifically from ubotu's link - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[09:28] <gold44> ph0rensic: i just need a crappy pci card, so i can use dual monitor. my other computer broken. so now i am thnking of putting dual screens
[09:28] <pawan12> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56042/
[09:28] <blag> Agent_bob: Sry, its late here, is the thing that's surprising the use of single quotes?
[09:29] <macogw> gold44: yes, that's it.
[09:29] <[miles]> superb!
[09:29] <MrKeuner> hi, cna I specify two aliases for root in /etc/aliases? and does that help two people receiving messages sent to rrot?
[09:29] <[miles]> thank you
[09:29] <gold44> http://www.amazon.com/eVGA-e-GeForce-7300-256-GPU/dp/B000EG5VBS/ref=pd_bbs_8?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1203067080&sr=8-8   <--- does this works for dual screen?
[09:29] <ph0rensic> gold44: twinview is awesome
[09:29] <Agent_bob> blag yes   the single quotes in    echo -e '$something \n more'  the variable is not expanded but the \n newline char is
[09:30] <natlinuxnewb> For those interested you can Net boot and install Ubuntu from http://lubi.sourceforge.net/unetbootin.html
[09:30] <ph0rensic> gold44: yeah that should work fine.. stick to nvidia if yuu can
[09:30] <Tyczek> Hi, is there anyone who uses ATI fglrx? When I want to play movie on XV it looks poor and like in bad quality, when on gl it slows and skips, on X11- it looks perfect, but I heard that is not recommended to use it...
[09:30] <Tyczek> http://pastebin.com/m73561840
[09:30] <macogw> MrKeuner: thats not what aliases do
[09:30] <ph0rensic> gold44: it is pci-E
[09:31] <blag> Agent_bob: ah, that is weird.  any idea why they did it that way?
[09:31] <CM`> apparently I can't use the import button
[09:31] <MrKeuner> macogw: can I do that?
[09:31] <Agent_bob> blag quotes act differently for a reason.  if you want it to do one thing you quote it one way.  if you want the same string to do something else you quote it differently.
[09:31] <ph0rensic> gold44: is your MB pci or pcie?
[09:31] <macogw> MrKeuner: aliases let you set, for example ls='ls --color' so if you type "ls" it automatically runs ls --color instead
[09:31] <gold44> ph0rensic: yeah, i know, pci-e.
[09:31] <CM`> it only works if I drag and drop even then some of the files only work
[09:31] <macogw> MrKeuner: are you talking about email?
[09:31] <MrKeuner> macogw: I mean I need two people to receive the messages sent to root
[09:31] <Agent_bob> blag that's why i pointed it out to you.
[09:31] <ph0rensic> gold44: Oh ok just making sure
[09:31] <gold44> ph0rensic: i m just curious about these dual port cards.
[09:31] <blag> Agent_bob: I guess I'm too used to the PHP way of thinking about quotes.  But thanks for pointing that out, I'll have to delve deeper into quotes.
[09:32] <pawan12> abny gui utility to repair grub
[09:32] <pawan12> any
[09:32] <macogw> MrKeuner: if youre talking about email, youd set that up in the mailserver, i think
[09:32] <Agent_bob> blag welcome
[09:32] <ph0rensic> gold44: curious how? I have that brand actually.. everything worked out of the box other than editing xorg.conf
[09:32] <gold44> ph0rensic: both my monitors are VGA anyway, i am using one AGP port. so i might buy an expensive agp card that has twoports
[09:33] <ph0rensic> gold44: Are you wondering about the one card that is dvi?
[09:33] <ph0rensic> gold44: the dvi has a vga adapter that comes with it.. you can use the s-video port for a tv if you wanted..
[09:33] <gold44> ph0rensic: i want to know if those cards are like a toggle-card. you can only use one at a time, like all other stuff, some ram slots, pci with old isa slots and such...
[09:34] <ph0rensic> gold44: No they are dual head, use both at the same time.. just not 3 at a time
[09:34] <blag> Agent_bob: since you seem to be far more knowledgeable than I: I got my script to work with short flags ("-h") with getopts, how do I get it to work with long options ("--help")?
[09:34] <gold44> ph0rensic: no, i ve tried s-video in the past. it's no good for me.
[09:34] <furythor> I need help to configure my external hard drive
[09:35] <Agent_bob> now if i could just find the name of that debian .deb that i installed to make midi work correctly ...
[09:35] <Agent_bob> blag i'll have to revisit the pastebin   give me a sec to see what you are doing there
[09:35] <jimcooncat> I have a bash script I'd like to step through, one command at a time. Is there a tool or command I can use?
[09:35] <ph0rensic> gold44: Ok, either way... I would recommend using the dvi and vga port obviously.. (or both dvi depending on the card)
[09:35] <natlinuxnewb> Q. Does linux use or not use .exe files?
[09:35] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: No .. unles maybe in wine
[09:36] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: .exe is a m$ thing
[09:36] <blag> Agent_bob: I updated it, here's the link: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56044/
[09:36] <gold44> ph0rensic: oh.... not 3 at a time... interesting. i expect the s-video to work nicely with other ports. cause usually people tend to use s-video to do presentation while reading from their monitor at the same time
[09:36] <neil_d> nataku_: wine can use them (sometimes)
[09:36] <Agent_bob> blag i'm not seeing any test for args ???
[09:36] <Sjimmie> natlinuxnewb: you may give it any extention you like but if you want to "execute" it it should be a binary and has the chmod +x option on
[09:36] <[dcr]> natlinuxnewb: thats what Wine is for :D
[09:36] <natlinuxnewb> ph0rensic, can you go to here...http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=198821&package_id=243411 and tell me which one i should DL and use?
[09:36] <Agent_bob> blag oh sorry didn't notice the update.
[09:37] <ph0rensic> gold44: With the nvidia cards you can use any of the two ports at a time... so vga+DVI VGA+s-video or DVI+VGA
[09:37] <natlinuxnewb> Sjimmie, thanx. that was what i needed
[09:37] <natlinuxnewb> [dcr], lol
[09:37] <gold44> ph0rensic: i think relatively speaking the cost for a DVI-to-vga converter is expensive, when it comes to a video card. the convert might cost $30 while a brand new dvi card will cost $50
[09:37] <blag> natlinuxnewb: lol, the script I'm working on will allow machines to PXE boot to your computer and then dd partitions over a network
[09:37] <blag> Agent_bob: np
[09:37] <gold44> ph0rensic: thx good to know
[09:38] <ph0rensic> gold44: These cards come with the convert
[09:38] <natlinuxnewb> blag lol
[09:38] <gold44> ph0rensic: yes, some do , some don'tknow
[09:38] <natlinuxnewb> I have a .sh on my desktop. how do i open it?
[09:39] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: Umm your installing this on windows so you need to get the .exe  I'd go with the top one i386 win
[09:39] <Agent_bob> blag first option   g|-gzip)    <give that a try
[09:39] <natlinuxnewb> ph0rensic, No. im installing this over Ubuntu 5.04
[09:39] <natlinuxnewb> :)
[09:40] <Agent_bob> blag you may have trouble with posix --options and -- end options   if you don't add a space too   -- )
[09:40] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: So this program gets installed on the working system?? Why is there a .exe format??
[09:40] <blag> Agent_bob: Error: Unknown option -
[09:40] <natlinuxnewb> ph0rensic,  for the windows os.
[09:40] <MrKeuner> macogw: just to let you know, editing /etc/aliases worked for me. I just added a second user after a comma. now both receive root's messages.
[09:41] <natlinuxnewb> ph0rensic, you following?
[09:41] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: Not really you want to pm me?
[09:41] <CM`> I think gnome is conflicting with an apperance I finally got working
[09:41] <CM`> but looks weird
[09:41] <CM`> is there a way to disable or clear emerald
[09:41] <CM`> I accidently said gnome instead
[09:43] <blag> Agent_bob: and just for clarification, you meant I should add a space between "--" and ")", right?
[09:43] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: I think you install the package on the host system you will be installing from
[09:44] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: In that case get the top .exe (i386)
[09:44]  * natlinuxnewb crys
[09:44] <natlinuxnewb> read my pm lol
[09:44] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: haha let me look at the docs
[09:44] <natlinuxnewb> .exe is usless to me. i want to install it ontop of this 5.04 ubuntu
[09:45] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: never got it
[09:45] <natlinuxnewb> how do i pm in xchat?
[09:46] <[dcr]> use /query nick
[09:46] <brizben> how do you set the default temp directory for serpentine?
[09:47] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: Are you identified? I just pmed you
[09:47] <natlinuxnewb> got your pm
[09:47] <blag> Agent_bob: there is this: http://nlp.cs.jhu.edu/~edrabek/utils/
[09:47] <natlinuxnewb> is pm disabled if i am not ided?
[09:48] <ph0rensic> natlinuxnewb: Yes
[09:48] <natlinuxnewb> ok. sec
[09:49] <maximilion> GIMP help was not installed with Ubuntu. What gives?
[09:49] <natlinuxnewb> ok....how do i register?
[09:49] <Werdna> ubuntu doesn't love you?
[09:50] <[dcr]> natlinuxnewb: /nickserv register password
[09:50] <jay-oh-en> how do i start from scratch with firefox?
[09:50] <natlinuxnewb> [dcr], thanx
[09:50] <[dcr]> natlinuxnewb: identify with: /nickserv identify password
[09:50] <[dcr]> np ^^
[09:50] <Werdna> maximilion: gimp-help-en - Documentation for the GIMP (English)
[09:51] <Agent_bob> blag sorry i got busy.   but you can use   /join #bash    for help with any bash related questions any time.
[09:51] <[dcr]> !pastebin
[09:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:51] <brizben> does any one know how to set preferences for serpentine?
[09:51] <jay-oh-en> how do i start from scratch with firefox?
[09:51] <blag> Agent_bob: That's okay.  THanks for all your help!
[09:52] <jay-oh-en> how do i remove firefox's config files
[09:53] <pocketdrummer> What purpose does "fixme" serve in the terminal? example: fixme:shell:DllCanUnloadNow stub
[09:54] <waini> hi
[09:54] <waini> good morning
[09:54] <dumnut> hi, i just loaeded kubuntu to my laptop, i have sprint data card internet access and the account is activated, what do i need to do on the laptop so the data card works?
[09:54] <develtiie> hello, is slocate only useable by root ? I try 'slocate --database /tmp/tst/ -U /my/dir/' as normal user with no success
[09:55] <waini> i have some difficults with my vnc-server - could anyone help me?
[09:55] <tanner> which package contains the sound modules
[09:55] <maximilion_> Will I have to install help separately for all programs I'm using ?
[09:56] <maximilion_> (Since none were installed with GIMP)
[09:56] <osfameron> dumnut: it may be that you need to write a wvial script?  If you don't get any other (better) responses, maybe try googling for sprint+linux+wvdial to see if other people have approached that way
[09:56] <natlinuxnewb> maximilion, there are good help files online for gimp. do you want to DL all those?
[09:56] <osfameron> dumnut: but latest ubuntu might have some graphical panel.  last time I tried (a couple of releases back, that's how I attempted to resolve it)
[09:57] <maximilion_> natlinuxnewb, I want F1 to work, and in case that fails, I want it to work like it's supposed to - open the html help files :)
[09:57] <maximilion_> (or clicking the help button that is in every GIMP window ;)
[09:58] <tanner> which package contains the sound driver modules
[09:58] <pocketdrummer> !xgl
[09:58] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[09:58] <dumnut> osfameron, hmm i am too busy with trying to start my business and chats to do detail work plus i am not as smart as you guys, i guess i'll just buy from ubuntu the latest cd, thank-you for your direction.
[09:59] <natlinuxnewb> maximilion, lol i had the same prob. Yes you will need to DL.
[09:59] <maximilion_> Yeah, just got the packages via Synaptic, works fine.
[09:59] <pocketdrummer> !xgl | [dcr]
[09:59] <ubotu> [dcr]: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[09:59] <maximilion_> Just strange that Ubuntu comes _with_ GIMP, _without_ the help files :)
[10:00] <tanner> anyone else have broken sound after kenel update?
[10:01] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[10:01] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[10:01] <osfameron> dumnut: oh, I didn't work it out either... but I didn't spend much time on it (and was in Italy, so all the blogs about setting it up were in Italian...)  Yeah, I'd recommend latest ubuntu, but I don't know for certain that it's easy to setup on that either...
[10:01] <maximilion__> "Everyone that installs Ubuntu already knows GIMP... 'You don't need to see his help file (magic Jedi hand gesture)'" ;)
[10:01] <Veinor> Is there any way to mount an ISO image read-write?
[10:01] <maximilion__> hehe
[10:01] <maximilion__> Veinor, in Ubuntu?
[10:01] <pocketdrummer> I am following instructions that say, "make sure XGL is not running." Are they referring to compiz or something else?
[10:01] <Veinor> Yeah.
[10:02] <maximilion__> dunno, I think PowerISO on XP does.
[10:02] <Veinor> Basically, I have an ISO and I want to change one small thing on it. What's the fastest way to do that?
[10:02] <tanner> Veinor: extract, modify and remake the iso
[10:03] <pocketdrummer> So, out of the 1016 people here, is anyone successfully running Guild Wars?
[10:03] <Veinor> What's a program to extract the iso?
[10:05] <dumnut> btw, i read that microsoft is going to online collaboration for its softwares, consultant work for you guys :-)
[10:05] <ph0rensic> Veinor: You can take a look at gmount-iso that programis good GUI iso mounter
[10:05] <SBCU> hello everybody, I'm trying to make my Panasonic NV-GS17 work on my computer, but Ubuntu doesn't seem to understand it's there and working
[10:05] <SBCU> could anybody help me out with this please?
[10:05] <Veinor> Cool.
[10:06] <rosebuntu> i'm hot
[10:06] <maximaxi> SIGH... anyone here on a *stable* freenode server?
[10:06] <rosebuntu> ubuntu is a revolution
[10:06] <rosebuntu> ubuntu is not linux
[10:06] <rosebuntu> it's a revolution
[10:07] <tanner> rosebuntu: o.O
[10:07] <rosebuntu> why are you calling me?
[10:07] <tanner> anyone having issues with kernel update breaking sound
[10:07] <maximaxi> Boom!
[10:07] <tanner> woohoo
[10:07] <natlinuxnewb> wow
[10:07] <tanner> good old irc
[10:08] <jim__> hello gents
[10:08] <natlinuxnewb> hi all
[10:08] <lyte> my server is stable...
[10:08] <maximaxi> like I said, anyone have a stable freenode server to give me ? :)
[10:08] <lyte> my pc is not
[10:08] <rosebuntu> switch sound card
[10:09] <mk> Hi, is there a command line command that tells me, the name of the raid controller?
[10:09] <maximaxi> lyte, tried the usual irc.freenode.net first--was just as unstable. Funny, I get disconnected Much more often in Ubuntu than in XP
[10:09] <mk> or other system informations?
[10:09]  * maximaxi <- hardcore IRCer
[10:09] <rosebuntu> hey guys, you are angels
[10:09] <jim__> Guys I got my Ati installed properly through the use of the Xorg drivers etc, and fglrx info says ATI and stuff, compiz works, but when I try to run Xplane Its obviously not using the card, any suggestions? I went linux on this comp specifically for testing X-plane on linux
[10:10] <mk> Hi, is there a command that tells me, the name of the raid controller and other system information??
[10:10] <rosebuntu> install ati driver through restricted driver manger
[10:10]  * lyte shrugs
[10:10] <tom17bombadil> hm. i better ask it again: i want to sniff mysql sockets (local) with wireshark. is that possible? sniffing ipc?
[10:10] <snailrails> Ist there a reason a standard lamp setup ontop of a ubuntu-minimal install won't run in 256MB ram  ?
[10:10] <snailrails> is this normal
[10:10] <jim__> should I download and run the ATI driver package? Even though I FINALLY got my ATi driver working thanks to veeger
[10:11] <lyte> maximaxi: i'm connected to kubrick.freenode.net
[10:11] <jim__> (From ATI) the proper drive
[10:11] <rosebuntu> jim/ yes you should
[10:11] <jim__> ok, took forever to get the bloody x-org ones working
[10:11] <rosebuntu> jim / apt-get install restriced-driver-manager
[10:12] <rosebuntu> and run it then ati driver will come
[10:12] <sean_> hey people is there anyway to make the touchad more sensitive, so i dont had to tap as hard, to make a click???
[10:12] <sean_> ^^does that make sence lol
[10:12] <jim__> The one FROM ati, not the xorg one right?
[10:12] <coolbhavi> Hello
[10:12] <jim__> cause i think i've done that code before
[10:13] <rosebuntu> ati X series works properly
[10:13] <jim__> 9550 here
[10:13] <coolbhavi> how to unmount a root partition?
[10:13] <rosebuntu> 9550 works
[10:13] <tanner> anyone's kernel update kill alsa
[10:13] <rosebuntu> tanner/ don't need kernel update
[10:14] <jim__> hmm, well i can use the downloaded ati driver installer fom ati, but it took so much screwing around to get it going
[10:14] <rosebuntu> you don't have to update kernel
[10:14] <jim__> it just kept saying mesa
[10:14] <rosebuntu> jim / ati driver downlaod from restriced driver manager
[10:15] <jim__> ok so first ... apt-get install restriced-driver-manager
[10:15] <rosebuntu> jim / yes, right
[10:16] <waini> i have some truble with my vnc-server (i do not get the desktop) - could anyone help me?
[10:17] <maximaxi> Downloaded an ebook with Synaptic... any way to tell it to tell me where it put it? :)
[10:17] <Airwulf> hello to you all
[10:17] <rosebuntu> airwulf / hi~
[10:18] <rosebuntu> where are you from?
[10:18] <Airwulf> after some hours my gnome pane freezes. How can I restart it?
[10:19] <maximaxi> Ze Äir-Wulf! :)
[10:19] <rosebuntu> airwulf / press ctrl+alt+back space
[10:19] <ph0rensic> anyone come back after the netsplit?
[10:19] <lyte> Airwulf: ctrl+alt+backspace restarts all of x, it may not be what you want to do
[10:19] <maximaxi> yeah
[10:19] <ph0rensic> rosebuntu: u being mean or was he asking how to do that?
[10:20] <jim__> E: Couldn't find package restriced-driver-manager
[10:20] <Airwulf> the restarts gnome completley but after login there comes an error message
[10:20] <lyte> Airwulf: do you know what the error message is?
[10:20] <coolbhavi> How to unmount a root partition? to run fsck on root.. How to run fsck on root?
[10:20] <sean_> waini,
[10:20] <Airwulf> one moment I change to another computer
[10:20] <lyte> coolbhavi: if you're running fsck on root you probably want to be doing it off a live cd...
[10:20] <sean_> try disabling authentication/security on the server and try again waini
[10:20] <Werdna> lyte: why not restart and force a fsck?
[10:21] <lyte> dunno
[10:21] <lyte> i dislike "testing" the system off an installed os, just habbit
[10:21] <Airwulf_> re
[10:21] <gold44> anyone installed the oem version of ubuntu?
[10:21] <coolbhavi> lyte details please
[10:22] <ph0rensic> gold44: You find any gfx cards yet
[10:22] <gold44> ph0rensic: nope
[10:23] <gold44> ph0rensic: seems like pci and agp are phasing out faster than i thoug
[10:23] <gold44> though
[10:23] <gold44> thought
[10:23] <jegHegy> hi. i want to start gnome-terminal with Hebrew/IBM862 character encoding using "env LC_CTYPE=whatever gnome-terminal" in a launcher. what would "whatever" equal to to have the same effect as choosing that codepage from the menu Terminal > Set Character Encoding?
[10:23] <Airwulf_> now there is no error message but only the background image and desktop icons are available
[10:24] <Airwulf_> only after rebooting everything is working for the next 2-5 hours
[10:24] <jay-oh-en> !flash
[10:24] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:24] <ph0rensic> gold44: Yah.. its hard to get any pci .. agp you can find but pcie is basically it
[10:24] <azepromidi> have there iron the bug with nvidia 7600gs cards yea
[10:24] <Werdna> flash was a cinch for me
[10:24] <Werdna> www.adobe.com/flash
[10:24] <Werdna> download the tgz, run the installer
[10:24] <azepromidi> have there iron the bug with nvidia 7600gs cards yea
[10:25] <ph0rensic> I used sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras to install flash
[10:25] <Airwulf_> which gnome application manage the menu bar?
[10:25] <azepromidi> boot in root and it will fix problem
[10:25] <gold44> ph0rensic: actually i can't abandon my agp card. it's an all in one, almost like "all-in-wonder" with video capture and other stuff. so i need pci. hehee
[10:25] <lyte> Airwulf_: gnome-panel
[10:26] <ph0rensic> gold44: Oh ... may be hard finding a decent pci dual head card
[10:27] <Ububegin> k..guys.. TGIF... gg back time in Singapore... europeans hang on...
[10:27] <gold44> ph0rensic: i see a few 256mb pci cards.  $50.  my agp is 32mb, but it has input port, so i watch tv with my current agp card
[10:28] <Airwulf_> killall gnome-panel;gnome-panel ... solves my problem. but why does gnome-panel freezes? Which log must i search for errors? /var/log/messages is empty
[10:28] <ph0rensic> gold44: I see...
[10:29] <coolbhavi> how to take space from my ntfs partition and send it to my root ext3 partition?
[10:29] <jay-oh-en> can somebody help me i cant get my flash working well it works but everytime i start a flash video it pauses liek 3 seconds in or like when its buffering a song it just stops buffering
[10:29] <coolbhavi> use gparted cd?
[10:29] <jay-oh-en> it was working 4 hours ago
[10:29] <echo_mirage> how can i change values in the system files? ubuntu tells me i havent enough rights. but it's my system.
[10:30] <ph0rensic> coolbhavi: Yah I believe so
[10:30] <ph0rensic> echo_mirage: are you at a terminal
[10:30] <andatche> echo_mirage: prefix the command with sudo
[10:30] <echo_mirage> no. i think i should. i launch it now
[10:30] <ph0rensic> echo_mirage: what are you trying to do?
[10:30] <jay-oh-en> why does nobody ever answer my question
[10:31] <jay-oh-en> its making me mad
[10:31] <echo_mirage> ok its open. now how to open a file in edit-mode ?
[10:31] <lucypher> Hi how can I disable the postrm process of a package?
[10:31] <coolbhavi> resize win partition and add the difference space to ext3 partition..
[10:31] <ph0rensic> jay-oh-en: maybe we dont know chill
[10:31] <ballongen> what is the best way to install webmin?
[10:31] <[dcr]> jay-oh-en: whats your problem with flash?
[10:32] <ph0rensic> ballongen: hmm did you try sudo apt-get install webmin ??
[10:32] <jay-oh-en> [dcr], it pauses when its buffering movies and songs
[10:32] <idran2> Hy to all! I have a problem with OSS. I'm not able to remove it. I try with synaptic and terminal but terminal say that: http://pastebin.ca/904839  The dir /usr/bin/oss is empty. Someone can help me?
[10:32] <[dcr]> jay-oh-en: did you install the Adobe Flash Player plugin for Firefox or one of the others?
[10:34] <jay-oh-en> [dcr], for firefox and firefox 3
[10:34] <jegHegy> hi. i need to start gnome-terminal with Hebrew/IBM862 character encoding using "env LC_CTYPE=whatever gnome-terminal" in a launcher. what would "whatever" equal to to have the same effect as choosing that codepage from the menu Terminal > Set Character Encoding?
[10:34] <[dcr]> jay-oh-en: I'm asking which flash plugin you installed though. Adobe or another flashplugin?
[10:35] <jay-oh-en> [dcr], from the repos the adobe one
[10:35] <[dcr]> Maybe you should try a reboot?
[10:35] <[dcr]> Its working pretty fine for me. o.o
[10:36] <echo_mirage> ok my terminal is open, i want to open and change <filelocation> what so i type now exactely? thx
[10:36] <jay-oh-en> [dcr], and i remove the /usr/lib/firefox and the /usr/lib/mozilla dirs and now it wont install going through firefox liek it says manual install
[10:36] <erUSUL> !cli | echo_mirage
[10:36] <ubotu> echo_mirage: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[10:36] <[dcr]> >_>
[10:36] <jay-oh-en> [dcr], like a click missing plugins
[10:36] <echo_mirage> ok i read this one. thx
[10:37] <[dcr]> I'm really not sure what to say, someone else needs to help you.
[10:37] <acezar> hello, petit probleme avec postgres, je cree un utilisateur, j'arrive a l'utiliser avec phppgadmin, mais pas avec "pgsql -U monUtilisateur -d maBase -W"
[10:37] <ph0rensic> echo_mirage: cd /file/location
[10:37] <ballongen> [dcr] yes, seems that webmin isnt in the dep?
[10:37] <acezar> j'ai  CET FATAL:  authentification Ident échouée pour l'utilisateur dans les log
[10:37] <natlinuxnewb> Where do i find gparted?
[10:37] <acezar> oups,i'm in the wrong place sorry
[10:37] <maximilion> Is Javascript support individual for each browser, or do the browser use common libraries?
[10:38] <lumgwada> hello does anyone know if you can pass an apache AuthBasic username:password along with a web address to lynx as a command line argument?
[10:38] <[dcr]> i dont know, he pretty much deleted the folders for it
[10:38] <rosebuntu_> i'm desktop user
[10:39] <[dcr]> perhaps finish out an uninstall than reinstall back, than reinstall the adobe flash plguin again
[10:39] <rosebuntu_> i don know server
[10:39] <natlinuxnewb> Where do i find gparted?
[10:39] <Mez> !info gparted | natlinuxnewb
[10:39] <ubotu> natlinuxnewb: gparted (source: gparted): GNOME partition editor. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.3-2ubuntu6.1 (gutsy), package size 334 kB, installed size 1908 kB
[10:39] <rosebuntu_> gparted is not good
[10:39] <jay-oh-en> [dcr], thanks the reboot made it work :]
[10:39] <pocketdrummer> !directX
[10:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about directx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:39] <ballongen> why isnt webmin in the repositarys? i have enabled backports and universe in sources
[10:39] <[dcr]> Oh ^^
[10:40] <rosebuntu_> use installation CD
[10:40] <[dcr]> No problem jay-oh-en, I figured it would I  just wasnt so sure ^^
[10:40] <erUSUL> !webmin | ballongen
[10:40] <ubotu> ballongen: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead.
[10:40] <jpatrick> !webadmin | ballongen
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about webadmin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:40] <rosebuntu_> hey guys, where are you from?
[10:40] <ballongen> oh i see
[10:40] <ballongen> !ebox | ballongen
[10:40] <jay-oh-en> [dcr], i thought it would too but why would a reboot fis that?
[10:40] <[dcr]> Well
[10:40] <snailrails>  what causes cannot open /dev/console : permission denied ?
[10:41] <knightz> how about a ubuntu fom scratch project
[10:41] <[dcr]> did you try just closing out restarting firefox?
[10:41] <knightz> fom = from
[10:42] <rosebuntu_> hey guys, give your friends a Ubuntu
[10:42] <rosebuntu_> Ubuntu is a revoultion OS
[10:42] <rosebuntu_> i'm rosebuntu
[10:42] <dgjones> !ot | rosebuntu_
[10:43] <ubotu> rosebuntu_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:43] <knightz> is there some way I cam make my system more secure?
[10:43] <[dcr]> lol@rosebuntu
[10:43] <rosebuntu_> why?
[10:43] <rosebuntu_> did i make a mistake?
[10:43] <knightz> i sometimes feel like my box is wide opem
[10:43] <knightz> i sometimes feel like my box is wide open
[10:43] <ph0rensic> knightz: Of course.. there are books dedicated to that though
[10:44] <knightz> free stuff?
[10:44] <ph0rensic> knightz: Im sure you could find pdfs online
[10:44] <rosebuntu_> i'm a leader of Korean local community
[10:44] <knightz> hm.
[10:44] <rosebuntu_> ubuntu locoteam
[10:44] <matrix> hi  ,is there any freenode stafer ?
[10:45] <matrix> this channel offical ubuntu
[10:45] <jpatrick> rochelle: imagine 200+ people saying "hi rosebuntu_"
[10:45] <dgjones> rosebuntu_, can you join #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat about ubuntu etc, this channel is for support questions
[10:45] <jpatrick> matrix: try #freenode
[10:45] <rosebuntu_> ahh.. dgjones thanks
[10:45] <natlinuxnewb> in terminal how do i look at the folders?
[10:45] <jpatrick> rosebuntu_: imagine 200+ people saying "hi rosebuntu_" ;-)
[10:46] <rosebuntu_> this channel is for Q&A
[10:46] <natlinuxnewb> in dos i did dir/p |more
[10:46] <dgjones> rosebuntu_, you're welcome
[10:46] <natlinuxnewb> whats the thing for linux?
[10:46] <maximilion> hi rosebuntu_ :)
[10:46] <maximilion> 199 left
[10:46] <knightz> ubuntu change linux in a really big way
[10:46] <waini> wat i have to do to install the kernel source
[10:47] <waini> (not the headers)
[10:47] <maximilion> waini, have you looked in Synaptic?
[10:47] <rosebuntu_> no one in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:47] <waini> yes
[10:47] <rosebuntu_> i was disappointed
[10:47] <Ben_Cs> hello. after electricity break my ntfs drives wont mount because "not clean shutdown" and system thinks they're busy. how do i release them?
[10:48] <waini> or is it linux-source
[10:48] <waini> is it all?
[10:51] <Ben_Cs> anyone please?
[10:51] <waini> is it possible to remove only the by user defined packages - not the no longer required too (per konsole)
[10:52] <waini> ?
[10:52] <maximilion> waini, type "uname -r" in console to find your kernel version. Search for linux-source in Synaptic. Get the source.
[10:52] <idran2> Hy to all! I have a problem with OSS. I'm not able to remove it. I try with synaptic and terminal but terminal say that: http://pastebin.ca/904839  The dir /usr/bin/oss is empty. Someone can help me?
[10:52] <Ben_Cs> anayone please help!
[10:52] <ikonia> Ben_Cs: what is the problem, saying "anyone" doesn't explain the problem to me
[10:52] <ikonia> Ben_Cs: saying anyone time and time again doesn't help anyone who has not seen the problem
[10:53] <natlinuxnewb> Ben_Cs hello. after electricity break my ntfs drives wont mount because "not clean shutdown" and system thinks they're busy. how do i release them?
[10:53] <maximilion> Ben_Cs, can you see them in the file browser?
[10:53] <Ben_Cs> as i wrote above:  after electricity break my ntfs drives wont mount because "not clean shutdown" and system thinks they're busy. how do i release them?
[10:53] <Devyll> hello. how can I add an existing username to a certain group ? useradd -G <group> <user> ?
[10:53] <Ben_Cs> maximilion: nope
[10:53] <ikonia> Devyll: no, use the user add gui in gnome "System --> Admin --> users"
[10:53] <ikonia> Devyll: or useradd
[10:54] <ikonia> Ben_Cs: you'll need to boot into windows and do a "chkdisk" on them
[10:54] <ikonia> Ben_Cs: to mark them as "clean"
[10:54] <maximilion> Devyll, yeah look in the menus first, if you don't have a special reason for doing it in the console
[10:54] <Ben_Cs> ikonia: not through linux? weird. ok i'll do it
[10:54] <Ben_Cs> thanks
[10:54] <pocketdrummer> Is it possible to install sound card drivers in wine?
[10:55] <ikonia> Ben_Cs: no - the disk tools for ntfs are windows only.
[10:55] <andatche> pocketdrummer: nope
[10:55] <andatche> pocketdrummer: why would you need to?
[10:55] <Ben_Cs> ikonia: thanks alot dude. will try that
[10:55] <Devyll> ikonia, maximilion I can't use gui. I have remote access via ssh
[10:55] <ikonia> Devyll: then useradd
[10:56] <natlinuxnewb> where can i find a GUI HD partitioner?
[10:56] <ikonia> natlinuxnewb: system --> admin --> gparted
[10:56] <natlinuxnewb> im struggling with gparted
[10:56] <Devyll> ikonia, the syntax is "useradd -G groupname username" ? I already asked this and you said no
[10:57] <Agent_bob> have error >>> pt_chown: needs to be installed setuid `root'
[10:57] <Agent_bob> The system has no more ptys.  Ask your system administrator to create more.
[10:57] <lxusr> hello, anyone know dc++ deb package for ubuntu
[10:57] <maximilion> Devyll, type man useradd if you are unsure
[10:57] <ikonia> Devyll: no - thats not how you use useradd
[10:57] <Devyll> ok ... thanks I'll google it
[10:57] <ikonia> Devyll: useradd --help or man useradd, it's important you understand it before doing it, rather than me just telling you the commands
[10:57] <ikonia> it
[10:57] <ikonia> Devyll: don't google iut
[10:57] <[dcr]> !useradd
[10:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about useradd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:58] <ikonia> Devyll: read the help/man file on how to do it
[10:58] <natlinuxnewb> ikonia, There is no gparted in admin
[10:58] <ikonia> natlinuxnewb: disk administrator - something like that, the tool is called "gparted" though
[10:58] <Agent_bob> The system has no more ptys.  Ask your system administrator to create more.  <<< seeing that i'm this systems admin    what the heck is a pty ?     /dev/pty ?
[10:59] <ikonia> Agent_bob: virtual terminal
[10:59] <maximilion> ikonia, actually I have nothing like it my menu either :)
[10:59] <ikonia> Agent_bob: what are you doing that gets that message
[10:59] <ikonia> maximilion: use synaptic to install gparted
[10:59] <ikonia> maximilion: then look
[10:59] <Agent_bob> expect    spawn
[10:59] <Devyll> ikonia thanks !
[10:59] <natlinuxnewb> ikonia, I know what gparted is. Im using it in terminal. But i need a gui HD partioner. What you describe isnt there on my admin list.
[10:59] <ikonia> Agent_bob: are you trying to do LFS by any chance
[10:59] <realz`> when i enable twinview in nvidia-settings...my windows stretch to the 2nd display...how can i prevent it?
[10:59] <maximilion> He might need to use Synaptic
[10:59] <maximilion> hehe
[11:00] <Agent_bob> ikonia no.
[11:00] <ikonia> Agent_bob: ooh
[11:00] <Agent_bob> ikonia just running an expect secipt   and when it tries to spawn a process it burps out that error
[11:00] <mad_max02> morning :D
[11:00] <ikonia> Agent_bob: one moment
[11:01] <realz`> anybody?
[11:01] <ikonia> realz`: saying anybody means nothing -
[11:01] <jimcooncat> how to get tcl/tk 8.5 for gutsy?
[11:01] <ikonia> jimcooncat: look if it's in the repo's
[11:01] <mad_max02> can anyone tell me how can I turn off that annoying sound from pc speaker ?? I removed and blacklisted mod but I can still hear it when I play audio
[11:01] <Ayabara> anyone with a dell xps m1530 about?
[11:01] <ikonia> Ayabara: 1330 here - does that help ?
[11:02] <Agent_bob> mad_max02 mute it.
[11:02] <mad_max02> I did
[11:02] <jimcooncat> ikonia: only for hardy, I requested a backport but no comments yet on it
[11:02] <mad_max02> but I still hear some high frequencu sound when audio play on computer
[11:02] <mad_max02> and its really getting on my nerves
[11:02] <ikonia> jimcooncat: so you don't get it
[11:03] <natlinuxnewb> I'm going to post something I dont understand. "Step 1.  Use gparted to create a new primary partition and format it to ext3."
[11:03] <mad_max02> and I'm sure its not the speakers coz I hear it too when I turn speakers off :D
[11:03] <jimcooncat> ikonia: I'd compile it but I don't want to screw up the 8.4 installation
[11:03] <Agent_bob> mad_max02 in terminal alsamixer    scroll right to pc-speaker   and check it's muted
[11:03] <ikonia> jimcooncat: there you go then
[11:03] <Ayabara> ikonia, maybe. it has intel hd audio, right? I can't get my mic to work. in alsamixer all I see is Master and PCM, and something called "Mic as Output"
[11:03] <natlinuxnewb> how do i use gparted to do that. I dont know how to read the devices in gparted
[11:03] <mad_max02> Agent_bob, yeah dude. its muted
[11:04] <mad_max02> I got NF570 Sli mobo it if helps anything
[11:04] <fstabb> i cant isntall ebox-network, any clue why? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56047/
[11:04] <Agent_bob> mad_max02 humm and you stil have sound from it ?   odd indeed.
[11:04] <ikonia> Agent_bob: I wrote this about 2 years ago, it's still pretty valid and may help http://www.linuxfromscratch.org//lfs/faq.html#no-ptys
[11:05] <neversaynever> hello. i have installed ubuntu on my laptop. can i plug a projector device and use directly? or do i need a configuration?
[11:05] <Ayabara> ikonia, and the volume of the right headphone connector is much higher than the one on the left. any of this the case on your 1330?
[11:05] <mad_max02> Agent_bob, yeah dude. Its what I say. Can it be maybe problem with drivers ?
[11:05] <ikonia> Agent_bob: I suspect udev rules don't have enoough scope to add more devices
[11:05] <ikonia> Ayabara: why are you asking me, I've not responded to any of your questions nor read any
[11:05] <Agent_bob> ikonia no udev here.
[11:05] <mad_max02> thats a HDA Nvidia with Realtek chipset
[11:05] <Agent_bob> ikonia looking at your page.
[11:05] <ikonia> Agent_bob: how can you not be using udev ?
[11:05] <mad_max02> but I get all sounds right and all 5+1 speakers work out of the box
[11:05] <ikonia> Agent_bob: ubuntu uses udev
[11:05] <Agent_bob> ikonia simple  i removed it.
[11:06] <ikonia> Agent_bob: that would explain it, just make the nodes then
[11:06] <mad_max02> lol
[11:06] <fstabb> i cant isntall ebox-network, any clue why? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56047/ | here is the configuration file it complains about: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56048/
[11:06] <Ayabara> ikonia, "<ikonia> Ayabara: 1330 here - does that help ?"
[11:06] <Ayabara> :-)
[11:06] <Agent_bob> ikonia i really doubt that the device node is missing.
[11:06] <ikonia> Ayabara: oooh,  yes, I've got a 1330, I missed the actual question though
[11:06] <Agent_bob> ikonia it is probably more like a permissions issue
[11:07] <ikonia> Agent_bob: you need a node per terminal, MAKEDEV only creates $X ammount
[11:07] <ikonia> Agent_bob: yes, permissions are often a cause too
[11:07] <Ayabara> ikonia, ah. I just wondered if you have (had) the same issues as me. in short: does you front mic work?
[11:07] <ikonia> Agent_bob: some hints on that page
[11:07] <ikonia> Ayabara: yes it does
[11:07] <mad_max02> Agent_bob, do you maybe have a idea on what should I do ?
[11:08] <Ayabara> ikonia, out of the box? all I can see in alsamixer is master, pcm and "mic as output"
[11:08] <mad_max02> Agent_bob, hehe I just thought of something. I can cut wires of that pc speaker :D
[11:08] <neversaynever> may someone help me?
[11:08] <ikonia> Ayabara yup, no problems.
[11:08] <ikonia> neversaynever: if you ask a question, people maybe able to
[11:08] <neversaynever> i have installed ubuntu on my laptop. can i plug a projector device and use directly? or do i need a configuration?
[11:08] <Ayabara> ikonia, ok. I'll go bug the alsa-people :)
[11:09] <ikonia> neversaynever: plug it in, then use the gnome display manager to set your resolution on the external device
[11:09] <natlinuxnewb> how can i make a new partition on my HD? Parted makes no sense to me.
[11:09] <mad_max02> gparted
[11:09] <ikonia> neversaynever: depending on how the EDID id displayed you may need some manual edits
[11:09] <mad_max02> natlinuxnewb, use gparted dude
[11:09] <neversaynever> manual edits in the Xconfig?
[11:09] <natlinuxnewb> mad_max02, how?
[11:09] <mad_max02> ?
[11:09] <ikonia> neversaynever: maybe
[11:09] <epsi> is new ubuntu coming on april? was it 8.04?
[11:09] <mad_max02> type gparted ?
[11:09] <Daviey> yes
[11:09] <ikonia> epsi: correct
[11:10] <fstabb> when in april
[11:10] <epsi> ok
[11:10] <ikonia> fstabb: no idea yet
[11:10] <mad_max02> did anyone updated from lets say 7.04 to 7.10 with sucess ??
[11:10] <natlinuxnewb> mad_max02, command not found
[11:10] <ikonia> mad_max02: many people
[11:10] <mad_max02> natlinuxnewb, dude use synaptics to install it if not found
[11:11] <mad_max02> ikonia, and do I need to set everything up again ?
[11:11] <mad_max02> or will my settings remain ?
[11:11] <speedhunt3r> hi, is there a way to leave your network connection enabled when suspending the pc?
[11:11] <ikonia> mad_max02: somethings you may have to tweak, due to new versions, new ways of doing things, but mostly should be the same
[11:11] <ikonia> speedhunt3r: nope
[11:11] <ikonia> speedhunt3r: it can "wake on lan"
[11:11] <mad_max02> I'm looking forward to pulse audio
[11:12] <natlinuxnewb> mad_max02, I search for gparted and cant find it under synaptics either. :(
[11:12] <fstabb> i would like full support for creative x-fi fati1lity + pulse audio. :)
[11:12] <speedhunt3r> ikonia, aw..i want it so that it leaves the connection on for downloads running but still suspends the pc
[11:12] <ikonia> speedhunt3r: then you can't suspend
[11:13] <mad_max02> natlinuxnewb, did you enable repositories ??
[11:13] <natlinuxnewb> probably not
[11:13] <mad_max02> go to software sources and enable universe, multiverse and other sources
[11:13] <mad_max02> and try again
[11:14] <natlinuxnewb> -.-
[11:14] <natlinuxnewb> mad_max02, thanx for your help. I'm going to bed. Ill try to sort this out tomorrow
[11:14] <Cew27> prince_jammys: can you do me a favour jammy
[11:15] <caleb_> hey there everyone
[11:15] <mad_max02> natlinuxnewb, lol np dude
[11:15] <Agent_bob> ikonia ok mounting the dev/pts fixed expect   but now what the heck is that devpts file system ?
[11:15] <mad_max02> natlinuxnewb, gn
[11:15] <ikonia> Agent_bob: "device files system" basiclly
[11:16] <Agent_bob> ikonia it's in ram ?
[11:16] <ikonia> do you correct
[11:16] <caleb_> Anyone know of a good tool for generating scripts? Preferably something with a GUI.
[11:16] <Agent_bob> like /proc ?
[11:16] <ikonia> Agent_bob: not quite, let me see if I can find a link for you
[11:17] <Trel> Does anyone have a guide on how to configure a bloody 9 button mouse? This thing is really starting to get on my nerves.
[11:17] <ikonia> Agent_bob: bit of a tricky one to explain
[11:17] <Trel> The new X.org versions have depreciated most of what I've read.
[11:17] <speedhunt3r> Trel, wow 9 buttons? you're going to pilot ur computer? haha
[11:17] <Cew27> prince_jammys:  u there ??
[11:18] <Trel> Four actual buttons and I'm assuming 5 different motions with the scroll wheel.
[11:18] <Trel> left, right, click, forward and back for the scroll wheel.
[11:18] <piju> hello
[11:18] <caleb_> Newbie .xinitrc generator? Trying to make a remastersys livecd in virtualbox without a display manager
[11:19] <rosebuntu_> hey funny stuff http://ubuntu.hubweb.net/bbs/zboard.php?id=ucc&no=32
[11:20] <jscinoz> man some stuff is royally messed up now.
[11:20] <maximilion> speedhunt3r, mice with many buttons are extremely useful for f.ex. 3D artists, and Linux should have the luxurious configuration options it deserves, in my opinion
[11:20] <Agent_bob> URL's with & in them are evil
[11:20] <rosebuntu_> http://ubuntu.hubweb.net/bbs/zboard.php?id=ucc&no=30
[11:20] <rosebuntu_> funny interview i like Mark
[11:20] <Trel> I've got the mouse detected with evdev. It is just a matter of mapping these buttons or actually getting them to do anything.
[11:21] <speedhunt3r> maximilion, good point... a regular user like me couldn't see the use for 9 buttons though =p
[11:21] <maximilion> Trel, let me know if you find an app that lets you map mouse buttons!
[11:21] <Trel> I usually use a touchpad on a portable so I've never given much thought to more buttons.
[11:21] <jscinoz> Whenever firefox is doing something (loading a page, autocomplete in URL), xorg uses 100% CPU, some times this is so bad my entire system hangs and not even sysreq can reboot, any ideas? seems like https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/38131
[11:21] <Cew27> picard_pwns_kirk: hi
[11:21] <picard_pwns_kirk> Cew27: yo
[11:21] <Cew27> picard_pwns_kirk: be back in 30 seconds keep looking
[11:22] <picard_pwns_kirk> k
[11:22] <Trel> maximilion: I doubt I'll find anything that is very easy to use.
[11:22] <maximilion> speedhunt3r, well those mice rock in browsers too... 2-directional scroll wheel, home/end to go all the way up and down, middle click to open link in new tab, one button to save link as... the options are endless
[11:22] <saurabh> hi, how can i connect to a server using a client socket that is specifically bound to an ip address
[11:22] <rosebuntu_> hey guys, let's smile ^______^
[11:22] <Trel> xmodmap seems the best bet
[11:23] <maximilion> one button for refresh, another for cut, another for paste...
[11:23] <maximilion> Zey arr bjutifull
[11:23] <speedhunt3r> maximilion, nice... it would take me a long time to get used to all the keys i mapped...so used to standard 3 button w/scroll
[11:23] <dgjones> Trel, does anything in this help? I know its not ubuntu, but maybe something might give you a hint what to look at http://forum.freespire.org/archive/index.php/t-1638.html
[11:23] <jscinoz> you could always go for the highlight=copy, middleclick=paste
[11:23] <jscinoz> :P
[11:23] <Trel> Linux is Linux unless you're looking for a step by step how to.
[11:23] <Cew27> hey does anyone here know how to change what my mouse does ??
[11:24] <picard_pwns_kirk> Cew27: edit your xorg.conf file
[11:24] <Cew27> picard_pwns_kirk: thanks
[11:24] <picard_pwns_kirk> no prob
[11:24] <jscinoz> interesting..
[11:24] <Slade^^> guys I want to make sure about this, when I install ubuntu it asks me to set "/" somewhere, so now I have a 40 gigs partition (I want to use it as my main) I have a 5 gigs partition and 512MB linux swap partition
[11:24] <Trel> Be right back..
[11:24] <Slade^^> where should I put that "/" on the 40gigs or on the 5 gigs?
[11:24] <Cyr4x> mam takie coś
[11:24] <Trel> I hate restarting X for every single change.
[11:25] <Slade^^> those 2 (40 gigs and 5 gigs) are both ext3 partitions
[11:25] <Slade^^> ...
[11:25] <kkouwe> gettings this error, can someone help??
[11:25] <kkouwe> debian 4.0 AMD64 gives : ibc6-i386: Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.6.ds1-13etch4) but 2.3.6.ds1-13etch2 is installed
[11:25] <speedhunt3r> Slade^^, put / as in ur root partition for ur 40 gigs
[11:25] <Slade^^> and that 5 gigs
[11:25] <Agent_bob> Slade^^ prolly the 5 and make home the 40
[11:25] <ikonia> kkouwe: this is not debian support
[11:25] <Slade^^> should be left as it is?
[11:25] <Slade^^> ???
[11:25] <speedhunt3r> Slade^^, for swap, use /swap
[11:26] <Slade^^> and that of 5 gigs?
[11:26] <speedhunt3r> Slade^^, or go to file system type, change to "swappable area" or something like that.
[11:26] <rosebuntu_> hey guys, you are the one who make the world better
[11:26] <speedhunt3r> Slade^^, for your 5 gigs.
[11:26] <ikonia> kkouwe: debian support is in #debian
[11:26] <trel> hm
[11:26] <Slade^^> speedhunt3r, the swappartition is "
[11:26] <Slade^^> linux swap
[11:26] <kkouwe> ikonia: looks like they are sleeping over there :/
[11:27] <jscinoz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/38131 is what im having atm
[11:27] <trel> I'm curious if it will even do what I expect if I get them correctly configured
[11:27] <rosebuntu_> 512 mb swap is sufficient
[11:27] <speedhunt3r> yeah 5 gigs? insane.
[11:27] <Agent_bob> rosebuntu_ i don't use swap.
[11:27] <ikonia> kkouwe: sit and wait in the channel then, just because they are asleep does not mean ubuntu picks up #debians's slack
[11:27] <jscinoz> thats nothing
[11:27] <jscinoz> 8gb swap here lol
[11:27] <speedhunt3r> i've got 1 gb and it hardly uses it
[11:27] <kkouwe> ;) ok ok
[11:27] <jscinoz> 4gb ram 8gb swap >_<
[11:27] <jscinoz> dont ask.
[11:27] <Agent_bob> speedhunt3r 5g / 40g /home sounds about right
[11:27] <sangprabo> Hi, everyone. I want to delete all files which have "~" as suffix in ~/public_html. I did "rm -R ~/public_html/*~", but it didn't work. What kind of command should I do? Btw, if I do "locate ~/public_html/*~", I got what I want... Thanks
[11:28] <rosebuntu_> 4gb ram doesn't need swap partition
[11:28] <speedhunt3r> Agent_bob, it's not for me, it was for Slade ^^ but that guy left the channel.
[11:28] <jimcooncat> I would like to get the prevu package for my gutsy. It says it's in universe, but aptitude can't find it. What am I doing wrong?
[11:28] <jscinoz> *contemplates upgrading to hardy alpha*
[11:28] <Agent_bob> speedhunt3r yes i know.  was only commenting   as you were.
[11:28] <Trel> jscinoz: I've got it running now on a couple of machines.
[11:28] <erUSUL> rosebuntu_: you need it for suspend to disk if you used and even if you never hit it a swap partition is allways a good idea
[11:28] <Trel> jscinoz: Alpha really means Alpha this time.
[11:29] <jscinoz> more broken than usual?
[11:29] <Trel> don't do it unless you can afford to format the machine
[11:29] <Trel> Oh yeah
[11:29] <jscinoz> >_<
[11:29] <Trel> Definitely more broken
[11:29] <Cew27> hey all i just recorded a video using gtk-recordmydesktop and i would like to know how i can convert it to avi from ogg without loosing any quality
[11:29] <jscinoz> these xorg bugs are really pissing me off though
[11:29] <jscinoz> xorg eats 100% of core0 70% of core1
[11:29] <Trel> You think it is bad in Gutsy you'll be crying in Hardy.
[11:29] <Trel> ;)
[11:29] <ikonia> jscinoz: your language is uncalled for and not welcome
[11:29] <jscinoz> !
[11:29] <ikonia> !language > jscinoz
[11:29] <Trel> ikonia: A bit harsh, no?
[11:29] <ikonia> Trel: no
[11:29] <jscinoz> yeah just a bit.
[11:30] <jscinoz> easy on the conservsauce :P
[11:30] <jscinoz> lol
[11:30] <Trel> ikonia: Yes I definitely think that is a bit harsh for such a commonly used phrase.
[11:30] <ikonia> Trel: other words are used common - doesn't change anything.
[11:30] <Yellow> hello
[11:30] <Yellow^flu> :(
[11:30] <speedhunt3r> i love wammu...it's a better app than what came with my phone.
[11:31] <Trel> ikonia: I think the general idea of the channel is to provide people a reason not to use that language.
[11:31] <jscinoz> *ignores the wannabe op*
[11:31] <ikonia> Trel: no, it's to support ubuntu
[11:31] <ikonia> jscinoz: carry on using the language then,
[11:31] <Trel> ikonia: You can't tell me that you haven't used worse language than that when X has started to act up.
[11:31] <Trel> Anyway.. back to my mouse.
[11:31] <ikonia> Trel: not in a public Irc channel, no
[11:31] <jscinoz> so what would your rather i say.. "This xorg screwyness is making me rather frustrated" - no thanks.
[11:31] <Yellow^flu> we talking about swearing?
[11:32] <Daviey> guys, this is seriously OT
[11:32] <ikonia> Daviey: no kidding
[11:32] <speedhunt3r> I agree, off topic...
[11:32] <ikonia> just repsect the no language
[11:32] <enzo> i'd like to share directories on my ubuntu server for windows clients like linux ones, are there better solution than NFS (security is a problem) and SAMBA (configuration is a problem) ?
[11:32] <jscinoz> ikonia thinks "xyz is pissing me off" is bad phrase
[11:32] <jscinoz> no language eh?
[11:32] <jscinoz> ill say giberish then, who needs english
[11:32] <Yellow^flu> ow, that's so American.... swearing is a healthy way to show your frustration. now let's talk about coimputers again shall we
[11:32] <jscinoz> yes
[11:33] <Ayabara> are there any decent p2p clients on ubuntu? I tried amule, but it had a bit too much junk in the search results for my liking
[11:33] <jscinoz> mldonkey.
[11:33] <Trel> Ayabara: Which protocol?
[11:33] <Ayabara> can't blame that on the client maybe
[11:33] <jscinoz> mldonkey has it, whatever protocol you need.
[11:33] <Yellow^flu> anyone has had succes with the 64-vit drivers for the X-Fi?
[11:33] <mad_max02> Ayabara, then u didnt search like you should
[11:33] <Yellow^flu> *bit
[11:33] <Ayabara> Trel, don't know actually. someplace where there is stuff to search
[11:33] <Ayabara> jscinoz, thanks for the tip
[11:33] <speedhunt3r> Ayabara, you could try gnutella
[11:33] <mad_max02> Yellow^flu, I had X-Fi in my 64bit box
[11:34] <Ayabara> mad_max02, maybe so. :-)
[11:34] <jscinoz> ayabara, mldonkey itself is a daemon, you need an interface for it, try mldonkey-gui for a basic one, i'd go with sancho (not in repo, google it)
[11:34] <mad_max02> Yellow^flu, but I got it out and sold it :( I'm using onboard chip now
[11:34] <mad_max02> p2p like mule, torrent, dc++ ??
[11:34] <jscinoz> i wish the drivers for 8400 cards weren't so fail at the moment. 8400 has major problems on all platforms thanks to lazy nvidia
[11:34] <Yellow^flu> mad_max02: how did dyou get it to work? firstly it says "only 64-bit supported" although it is 64-bit - changed the uname switch in the ./install, then I get compiling errors
[11:34] <Lionel_of_Marsei> Ayabara : try Nicotine (Soulseek net)
[11:35] <rosebuntu_> smoking is harmful
[11:35] <Yellow^flu> jscinoz: not only 8400, I went through hell and back to get my 8800GT installed -.-
[11:35] <mad_max02> Yellow^flu, problem is that I got analog working.
[11:35] <mad_max02> Yellow^flu, but I bought that card for digital out
[11:35] <jscinoz> <3 envy
[11:35]  * Ayabara is overwhelmed by all the suggestions
[11:35] <Yellow^flu> mad_max02: my onboard works here too, but I really want the X-Fi to work ;)
[11:35] <jscinoz> still keep around the nvidia xxx.run for when stuff breaks
[11:35] <Trel> It is quite odd
[11:36] <mad_max02> Yellow^flu, well, thats same as I had ATI graphic but sold it and got me nvidia :D
[11:36] <jscinoz> yellow, afaik, x-fi = no drivers
[11:36] <mad_max02> I just want it to work
[11:36] <jscinoz> blame creative.
[11:36] <Trel> Firefox seems to be ignoring the forward and back buttons. They are correctly mapped according to the output from xev.
[11:36] <Yellow^flu> jscinoz: oh, I blame them, don't worry, but they did release analogue output only drivers - they just fail to work
[11:36] <mad_max02> there are some posts of people managing to get X-Fi to work but I think its a 1 out of 10
[11:36] <jscinoz> >_<
[11:36] <Trel> I suppose I've mapped them, but I never told it what to do with them.
[11:36] <Yellow^flu> and Creative has - after 2.5 years - provided OSS with the source
[11:37] <jscinoz> are there any 3d benchmarking apps for linux
[11:37] <Yellow^flu> unfortunately they forgot about all linux distributions use ALSA these days
[11:37] <jscinoz> i've been using 3dmark03 under wine >_<
[11:37] <mad_max02> jscinoz, thats bad
[11:37] <jscinoz> i realise.
[11:37] <jscinoz> lol
[11:37] <mad_max02> jscinoz, u need opengl benchmark
[11:37] <ikonia> jscinoz: there is one, however the name escapes me
[11:37] <jscinoz> yes i know
[11:37] <Yellow^flu> I don't think that running 3Dmark in wine gives you a good score :)
[11:37] <mad_max02> maybe ask google ?
[11:37] <jscinoz> dont know of any madmax
[11:37] <abbe> glgears? ;)
[11:37] <jscinoz> no
[11:37] <ikonia> jscinoz: there is one that tests the card quite hard
[11:37] <mad_max02> lol
[11:37] <jscinoz> glxgears = not benchmark
[11:37] <mad_max02> glxgears :D ahaha nice one
[11:37] <jscinoz> what is it called ikonia
[11:38] <mad_max02> I get over 20.000fps in glxgears :D
[11:38] <ikonia> jscinoz: I can't think of the name, I've never used it, trying to find it
[11:38] <jscinoz> didnt glxgears use to have a toggle you needed to show fps, and it was something like --i-acknowledge-that-glxgears-is-not-a-benchmark
[11:38] <jscinoz> cheers
[11:38] <Yellow^flu> (for something completely different: when will 8.04 release?)
[11:38] <jscinoz> april
[11:38] <Yellow^flu> ah, thx
[11:38] <Agent_bob> mad_max02 well.  i get over 20fps too
[11:38] <jscinoz> versioning scheme = Y.MM
[11:39] <Yellow^flu> oh!
[11:39] <mad_max02> Agent_bob, what gc ?
[11:39] <jscinoz> i get.. barely 800 thanks to 8400 being fail
[11:39] <Yellow^flu> I didn't know that was the logic behind their numbering
[11:39] <Agent_bob> mad_max02 nv
[11:39] <Yellow^flu> thx alot, jscinoz
[11:39] <mad_max02> jscinoz, its not bad card. you didnt install it right
[11:39] <jscinoz> np
[11:39] <ikonia> jscinoz: this isn't what I was looking for, but may help http://globs.sourceforge.net/
[11:39] <mad_max02> Agent_bob, lol :D what model dude :D
[11:39] <jscinoz> thanks
[11:39] <ikonia> jscinoz: thats not the one I'm thinking of
[11:40] <jscinoz> mad_max, trust me i've got it isntalled right, but i have so many screwed up things on this system and the drivers for 8400 suck on both linux and windows
[11:40] <Trel> Does anyone know if I need to use a program such as imwheel to give these buttons actual uses or is that done via some other method?
[11:40] <Agent_bob> mad_max02 you missed the point.   "over 20fps"    duh.
[11:40] <mad_max02> ah :D
[11:40] <mad_max02> lol
[11:40] <jscinoz> *points vaguely to 20+ page 8400 driver petition on nvnews*
[11:40] <mad_max02> didnt read it right
[11:40] <Trel> Heh.. I miss my touchpad already.
[11:40] <mad_max02> large monitor and small font = bad reading :D
[11:41] <feysalus> Hi, how do I change the default permissions of a CD-ROM drive? I can't access any files in the CD
[11:41] <kane77> if I run a program through ssh if I logout will it be still running?
[11:41] <caleb_> which 8400 you using? GS?
[11:41] <Yellow^flu> but... the last nvidia driverpack contains as well the driver for the 8400, no?
[11:42] <jscinoz> this is peculiar... anything opengl = 100% cpu usage (somtimes by ogl app, sometimes by xorg) yet glxinfo says i have direct rendering.
[11:42] <Yellow^flu> I just can't imagine my 8800 will work and a 8400 won't
[11:42] <Agent_bob> kane77 logout no.   if you kill the client end of the ssh connection  probably.   or if you use   --nohup
[11:42] <Cuteboi> Hi Friends
[11:42] <caleb_> Someone get me up to speed... I have an 8400... there's a problem with drivers? O_o
[11:42] <jscinoz> yes
[11:42] <jscinoz> on every platform.
[11:42] <Cuteboi> May I come in ?
[11:42] <Cuteboi> :)
[11:42] <jscinoz> NEIN!
[11:42] <jscinoz> :P
[11:42] <Cuteboi> :D
[11:42] <caleb_> what problem is there?
[11:43] <jscinoz> basically, its slow as a wet sloth.
[11:43] <Cuteboi> Lets play a small game here ... All u need to do is to guess the name of my country
[11:43] <jscinoz> australia
[11:43] <Cuteboi> nope
[11:43] <dgjones> !ot | Cuteboi
[11:43] <ubotu> Cuteboi: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:43] <subtle> hey people!
[11:43] <Cuteboi> :)
[11:43] <caleb_> hrm, i haven't had any issues... even running nwn2 in wine
[11:43] <subtle> Anybody who knows if you can access windows in gnome from the shell? for example modify their positions?
[11:43] <Cuteboi> oh
[11:43] <Cuteboi> sorry sir
[11:43] <subtle> I would like to write a "tile windows" shellscript.
[11:43] <caleb_> problem im having is these weird faint "shadow bars"
[11:44] <Cuteboi> then I'll leave this channel & sorry for disturbing u all
[11:44] <O987987> which one should i download for my ubuntu 7.10. VMware Player 2.0.2 for Linux.RPM or VMware Player 2.0.2 for Linux.TAR.GZ file?
[11:44] <Agent_bob> kane77 there is a little trick that i use to keep from having to hang around the ssh connection     "ssh blah@blah openvt -fc 12 -- do_something there"    the ssh connection only lasts long enough to start the app in the other console and closes.  but the app runs normally   and i can do what ever.
[11:45] <kane77> Agent_bob, wow thanx
[11:45] <Yellow^flu> (cuteboi was Indian BTW)
[11:45] <jscinoz> ikonia, globs fails to build >_<
[11:45] <Yellow^flu> O987987: the TAR.GZ
[11:45] <ikonia> jscinoz: typical, I'm still looking for the one I actually meant
[11:45] <O987987> anyone?
[11:45] <Agent_bob> kane77 just remember what vt number you open.   and you can use the process table to check on it later.  or kill it or what ever.
[11:45] <O987987> thnx
[11:45] <jscinoz> cheers
[11:46] <Yellow^flu> O987987: you'll have to comple it yourself
[11:46] <Yellow^flu> O987987: there is a tool to convert RPM to DEB though, but it's not a good way to work
[11:46] <dgjones> !rpm | 0987987, if its not in synaptic, I guess you'll have to compile it yourself, rpm is not recommended
[11:46] <ubotu> 0987987, if its not in synaptic, I guess you'll have to compile it yourself, rpm is not recommended: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[11:46] <O987987> thnx guys
[11:46] <epsi> kane77: use "screen" program
[11:46] <Yellow^flu> dgjones: : ah, yesn, alien was the program I meant
[11:47] <kane77> Agent_bob, just one more thing.. I cannot connect directly to school server so I have to connect to other ssh server then connect to one school server and then to the school server I need to connect to.. hwo can I automate this?
[11:47] <ari_stress> good evening :)
[11:47] <kane77> epsi, hmm.. have to look how it works
[11:47] <caleb_> so has anyone else had the "horizontal shadow bars" problem, and if so, found a way to fix it?
[11:47] <Agent_bob> kane77 sure you can nest ssh commands.
[11:47] <klee> t
[11:47] <j2daosh> anyone in here ever done a mysqldump on their amarok DB?
[11:47] <caleb_> searching the forums turned up nothing that could fix it for me
[11:47] <daurnimator> hey all
[11:48] <daurnimator> Startup manager assumes incorrectly
[11:48] <daurnimator> where can I change my boot drive manualy?
[11:48] <jscinoz> man i wish i had time to do a clean install
[11:48] <jscinoz> but i had to do so much driver hackery to make this thing work >_<
[11:48] <epsi> kane77: I use it for example to run irc-client in uni server. It keeps running when I logout ssh
[11:48] <Agent_bob> kane77 you use public keys or type in a password ?
[11:48] <miska> hi.. i need a program for linux to windows remote desktop..??
[11:48] <jscinoz> miska, tsclient
[11:48] <Trel> jscinoz: Which card do you have exactly?
[11:48] <O987987> do you think if i run vista in VMware Player 2.0.2 for Linux my wireless sprint usb card will work?
[11:49] <jscinoz> 8400M GS, core clock=400, memclock=600
[11:49] <O987987> anyone?
[11:49] <kane77> Agent_bob, password
[11:49] <Yellow^flu> O987987: sure, just bridge the connection
[11:49] <O987987> ok good
[11:49] <O987987> thnx
[11:49] <josemi> hi to everybody
[11:49] <speedhunt3r> hi
[11:49] <Trel> jscinoz: I'll give it a poke after I give this mouse a quick kick with xbindkeys
[11:49] <O987987> i will try
[11:49] <jscinoz> cheers
[11:49] <jscinoz> ikonia, SPECviewperf?
[11:49] <Yellow^flu> so, once more, anyone managed to get a X-Fi working in 64-bit ?
[11:50] <jscinoz> nevermidn iknoia, misread the page that was linked on
[11:50] <Agent_bob> kane77 well you would probably have to use expect to truely audomate that.  and i don't reccomend that. because the password would be in plain text form on your box.    but you can still nest the commands  and it will prompt for each password individually
[11:51] <kane77> Agent_bob, ok. thanx
[11:51] <Yellow^flu> ( aargh 39.5°C )
[11:51] <Agent_bob> kane77 example   ssh blah@blah1 ssh blah@blah2 ssh user@final_dest command to run
[11:52] <Agent_bob> you'll get prompted three times with that example tho ^
[11:52] <ikonia> jscinoz: nope, that wasn't it either
[11:52] <jscinoz> doh
[11:52] <josemi> I new in this...how does it work? are there any other chats?
[11:52] <Agent_bob> kane77 but adding something like that to a script will save a lot of typing.
[11:53] <chafka> how can i costumize the setting of my lap top.. when i close it i want linux automaticly get hibernate..???
[11:53] <josemi> how can i change chanel please?
[11:54] <Yellow^flu> josemi: type /join #channelname
[11:54] <Agent_bob> josemi /join #channel
[11:54] <Yellow^flu> change "channelname" by the name of your channel of course
[11:54] <josemi> thanks
[11:54] <jscinoz> chafka, system > preferences > power management > when the laptop lid is closed
[11:54] <jscinoz> you can have different settings for on AC power or battery
[11:54] <Yellow^flu> what's the website again to post snippets?
[11:54] <josemi> and how can i know the names of the chanels?
[11:55] <dgjones> !paste | Yellow^flu
[11:55] <ubotu> Yellow^flu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:55] <Yellow^flu> ah, thx dgjones
[11:55] <Agent_bob> josemi don't do it.  but  /list   will list them all.    freenode is too big for that command   imo
[11:55] <josemi> ok
[11:55] <j2daosh> how do i either reconfigure amarok, or uninstall it so I can do a reinstall from tarbal?
[11:55] <josemi> so I have to try and thats all
[11:55] <josemi> thanks
[11:56] <Agent_bob> j2daosh sudo apt-get remove --purge amarok    ???
[11:57] <wers> how do I untar using the command line? :)
[11:57] <Agent_bob> wers tar -xf filename
[11:57] <wers> thanks Agent_bob
[11:57] <Yellow^flu> Well, this is my output when I try to install the X-Fi for ALSA. I don't know what to make of it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56054/
[11:58] <Agent_bob> wers man tar    for any additional switches you might want
[11:58] <wers> #ubuntu is really much friendlier than other channels. hahhaa
[11:59]  * Agent_bob like #kubuntu   not as busy.
[11:59] <Yellow^flu> I prefer Gnome on KDE, really
[11:59] <Agent_bob> Gnome on KDE ?
[12:00] <Yellow^flu> I guess "on" wasn't the proper English word
[12:00] <Agent_bob> Yellow^flu i was only talking about he channel really.  i don't have x installed
[12:00] <Agent_bob> s/he/the/
[12:01] <jscinoz> ikonia http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=522813?
[12:01] <Yellow^flu> Agent_bob: oh, that's hardcore, you're chatting from command line?
[12:01] <Agent_bob> yeah
[12:02] <jscinoz> bitchx is awesome for uber system borked chat :P
[12:02] <Yellow^flu> what I miss in linux is a good mIRC alternative. Konversation, BitchX,... none of these is as good
[12:02] <Agent_bob> yeah i'm the guy that doesn't use anythign everyone else uses.    no xorg  no partitions  no swap space no bash ....
[12:02] <Yellow^flu> lol
[12:02] <j2daosh> Yellow^flu: just use irssi
[12:03] <Genjix> Hi all
[12:03] <j2daosh> i use bash cuz i hate the lack of tab completion in csh
[12:03] <Yellow^flu> j2daosh: after a quick glance that doesn't seem to give what I like. But let me tell you first why I like mIRC
[12:03] <Agent_bob> j2daosh understandable
[12:03] <Yellow^flu> mIRC gives one window in which different windows can be organized
[12:04] <Yellow^flu> really handy if you are on lots of channels
[12:04] <j2daosh> o...so you want something like say the 'chatzilla' extension for firefox :P
[12:04] <j2daosh> if you were on a windows box right now :P
[12:04] <Yellow^flu> no clue, I never used chatzilla
[12:05] <j2daosh> well actually, it might have a linux port...not sure. when stuck with windows i use chatzilla (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/16)
[12:06] <recon> you could always try the seamonkey suite...
[12:07] <Agent_bob> ikonia i forgot that you were looking for a definition of the pts fs.   if you didn't find one don't worry with it.
[12:07] <jscinoz> ikonia, is it glmark?
[12:07] <DrShtopor_> Ёптить, вас так много
[12:08] <Yellow^flu> this not-so-pretty-screenshot does illustrate what I like about mIRC: http://upload.knuckles.me.uk/mirc-ss.jpg
[12:08] <recon> !russian | DrShtopor_
[12:08] <ubotu> DrShtopor_: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[12:08] <^root^> The title bar of all windows is gone....
[12:08] <daurnimator> how do I find out the UUID of a drive?
[12:09] <Yellow^flu> ^root^: did you enable compiz recently? that used to be a problem if I remember correctly
[12:09] <infinito> does anyone know o good screecast make application?
[12:09] <infinito> screencast application, i mean
[12:09] <^root^> Yellow^flu, yup, and installed Emerald
[12:09] <jscinoz> hmm
[12:09] <dgjones> !screencast | infinito
[12:09] <ubotu> infinito: Some programs to capture your screen are recordmydesktop, Istanbul, Wink, Gvidcap, Xvidcap, vnc2swf, demorecorder.  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts.
[12:09] <^root^> infinito, are you talking about record my dekstop?
[12:09] <jscinoz> 100% cpu usage on anything opengl, yet i have direct rendering... any ideas?
[12:09] <Yellow^flu> daurnimator: "ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/"
[12:10] <daurnimator> Yellow^flu: ah, found it, sudo vol_id /dev/sdf1
[12:10] <j2daosh> ohhh! ok, yeah I dont know any like that
[12:10] <infinito> ^root^: yeps, thanks!
[12:10] <j2daosh> it would be nice to see one though
[12:10] <Yellow^flu> ^root^: it's a known problem, but I can't remember the solution. you should google it and you'll find a solution fast
[12:10] <Yellow^flu> daurnimator: oh, that was a possibility too
[12:10] <j2daosh> maybe run mirc under wine?
[12:11] <Yellow^flu> j2daosh: that's what I used to do, but I avoid wine if possible, so I'm using Konversation for now
[12:11] <j2daosh> ok
[12:11] <Agent_bob> amsn
[12:12] <O987987> how do i download linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic from ms vista?
[12:12] <daurnimator> how do I change the default menu.lst
[12:12] <Yellow^flu> er... why would you do that, O987987?
[12:12] <jscinoz> ikonia, nvidia perfkit?
[12:12] <Agent_bob> !packages | O987987
[12:12] <ubotu> O987987: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[12:12] <Yellow^flu> daurnimator: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:13] <daurnimator> Yellow^flu:  when I edit it, its fine, but when i update the kernel or use startupmanager, it resets it to a default
[12:13] <hhrocha000> hi
[12:13] <Yellow^flu> daurnimator: did you use the "gksudo"
[12:13] <Yellow^flu> ?
[12:13] <daurnimator> what/where is this default stored?
[12:13] <daurnimator> Yellow^flu: no...
[12:13] <Agent_bob> daurnimator if you read the comments in the menu.lst it tells you how
[12:13] <daurnimator> what does it do?
[12:13] <hfmls> hi
[12:13] <Yellow^flu> well, if you don't gksudo/sudo you can't save it
[12:14] <daurnimator> oh, thats not a problem
[12:14] <daurnimator> its fine when I edit it
[12:14] <daurnimator> just when I a script changes it for me
[12:14] <Yellow^flu> when you update the kernel it should only add new lines, not remove the ones you made yourself
[12:14] <daurnimator> its grabs its defaults for somewhere else
[12:14] <daurnimator> same with startup manager
[12:14] <Agent_bob> daurnimator if you read the comments in the menu.lst it tells you how   i.e. changing the things in the "#defaults" section
[12:14] <hfmls> guys, how doi use hdmi with ubuntu ?
[12:15] <Shinji-> ^root^ do you have a nvdia?
[12:15] <Agent_bob> oh i'm sorry.  i don't have grub.  never mind.
[12:15] <Tyczek> X11 "charges" power from graphic card or from CPU most?
[12:16] <stowaway> hello.. is there a apt-get for GTK+?
[12:16] <Thirsteh> Synaptic stowaway
[12:16] <hfmls> anyone pls?
[12:17] <stowaway> synaptic?
[12:17] <Yellow^flu> sorry, I don't have any experience with hdmi
[12:17] <j2daosh> where are the X libraries? configuring amarok fails because it cant find them...?
[12:17] <Agent_bob> !apt | stowaway
[12:17] <ubotu> stowaway: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[12:17] <j2daosh> is there a way to add an install option to apt-get install? like apt-get install amarok --enable-mysql?
[12:18] <Ermok> Hi
[12:18] <Agent_bob> j2daosh ummm xorg-dev  or something like that
[12:19] <j2daosh> holy crap
[12:19] <Trel> Okay
[12:19] <Trel> Finally got that sorted out
[12:19] <j2daosh> lol it's like 50 packages. I thought I had a complete install... guess i must have missed some packages ^_^
[12:20] <Yellow^flu> an install is _never_ complete ;)
[12:20] <Ermok> I'm having trouble with wirelesson ubuntu...
[12:20] <piju> Ermok, what type of wireless ?
[12:20] <Yellow^flu> Ermok: which trouble
[12:20] <Yellow^flu> ?
[12:20] <Agent_bob> j2daosh no.  when you start building things  then you have to have all the dev stuff and there is tons
[12:20] <astro76> j2daosh: -dev packages are never dependencies for software, only for compiling
[12:20] <Thirsteh> generally if an application complains that it's missing header/development files, you'll want to install the "-dev" version of whatever package it needs
[12:21] <Ermok> ]I'm not sure by what type, butit doesn't connect
[12:21] <Yellow^flu> oh, that's a very clear problem description Ermok
[12:21] <Thirsteh> they aren't installed by default because they take up space and are generally only needed while compiling
[12:21] <Ermok> Sorry >.>
[12:21] <Yellow^flu> well, we want to help you but we really need more information than "it doesn't work"
[12:22] <Agent_bob> !wifi | Ermok been here ?
[12:22] <ubotu> Ermok been here ?: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:22] <hfmls> ok, thank you. i wanted to use hdmi so i can watch movies in my tv :Si thought it was supported :| damn
[12:22] <Ermok> No I havn't thanks, I looke dbefore but didn't find that. : )
[12:23] <vix> I need some help mounting ntfs drives, i had to reinstall ubuntu and now my ntfs drives arent mounted. I cant either find them if I click Places->Computer.
[12:23] <Agent_bob> Yellow^flu generally when one statement is that vague,  just look above it to see what they already said and it makes more sense.
[12:23] <Agent_bob> !ntfs-3g | vix
[12:23] <ubotu> vix: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[12:23] <lxusr> hello, how to login in terminal with a specific user?
[12:24] <lxusr> =]
[12:24]  * Yellow^flu BRB, time for food and drugs (in the medical sense)
[12:24] <Ermok> Thanks very much for that webpage, I have found my problem.. : D
[12:24] <Agent_bob> lxusr ummm  sudo su - username   ?
[12:24] <astro76> lxusr: open the terminal, then sudo su - user
[12:24] <vix> Agent_bob, I thought Ubuntu 7.10 got ntfs3g installed out of the box?
[12:25] <Trel> I'd say Ubuntu desperately needs a better way to configure multibutton mice.
[12:25]  * Agent_bob </shrugs>   i dont do windows and i'm using the LTS
[12:25] <hfmls> in x-chat how do i open 2 servers
[12:25] <hfmls> ?
[12:25] <Agent_bob> vix but the page has more than how to install ntfs-3g
[12:26] <Yellow^flu> re
[12:26] <Agent_bob> vix you asked how to mount them.  and that's what the page is focused on.
[12:26] <Yellow^flu> yes, 7.10 has ntfs-3g out of the box
[12:27] <vix> Agent_bob, okay i see..
[12:28] <vix> Agent_bob, i installed the ntfs configuration tool now and started it and received an error message like this : $LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0)
[12:28] <vix> Failed to mount '/dev/sdc1': Operation not supported
[12:28] <vix> Mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use. Choose one action:
[12:28] <Yellow^flu> vix: force the mount
[12:29] <vix> yell0w_, how?
[12:29] <Thirsteh> vix, you can force it or you can boot Windows and reboot Ubuntu to clear the lock
[12:29] <j2daosh> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[12:29] <Thirsteh> forcing a lock override isn't recommended if you dualboot Windows
[12:29] <whabo>  can anyone help me to boot up xubuntu on a pentium II using the alternative CD .. as for i only have 128 MBS of RAM? and under the boot sequence in the bios it only has the option to boot from C only or DIsabled?
[12:29] <Agent_bob> vix better to boot windows and let it clean the fs up first.
[12:29] <fadey> Hi! Need help. 2-6-22-14 kernel fails to boot on my laptop. It falls into initramfs shell after failing to find a root partition. I see neither hda nor sda (or mapper) devices in /dev
[12:29] <vix> Thirsteh, can you explain a bit whats going on.. windows is locking the ntfs drive ?
[12:29] <j2daosh> i tried installing qt3-dev-tools (apt-get said it wa a substitue for qt3-dev) but still no joy
[12:30] <Thirsteh> vix, Windows mounts and umounts drives too. If there's an unclean shutdown, the drive wasn't unmounted. If you force a mount in Linux, Windows might give you trouble about the drive
[12:31] <Thirsteh> so like Agent_bob said, what you wanna do if you're able is to simply boot Windows, shut it down and boot Ubuntu so the drive gets cleared up
[12:31] <vix> Thirsteh, Agent_bob : okay thank you guys, I will try that.
[12:31] <vix> brb.
[12:31] <whabo>  can anyone help me to boot up xubuntu on a pentium II using the alternative CD .. as for i only have 128 MBS of RAM? and under the boot sequence in the bios it only has the option to boot from C only or DIsabled?
[12:31] <Agent_bob> fadey modprobe ide-generic  or ide-disk   and  ext3    then exit and see if it finds it or loops right back to the busybox prompt.
[12:31] <Yellow^flu> and if you can't boot windows, just force the mount (I
[12:33] <Agent_bob> fadey when you type exit in that initramfs (busybox shell) it tries to continue the boot process     incase you didn't know that.
[12:33] <fadey> Agent_bob:  thanks. I'll try it. Should I regenerate initramfs image with those options?
[12:34] <Agent_bob> fadey yes i've had to rebuild initramfs several times.
[12:34] <fadey> Agent_bob: it's true. didn't know that.
[12:34] <fadey> Agent_bob: thanks
[12:34] <Agent_bob> fadey also the mknod command is in busybox too   you can make the device nodes if you want to.
[12:35] <Agent_bob> like   mknod /dev/hda6 b 3 6       or   mknod /dev/sda1 b 8 1
[12:35] <nomad111> !kde4
[12:35] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[12:35] <Agent_bob> but he didn't see that.
[12:36] <Bad_boy> HI guys, Ubuntu sees my wireless network and it work, but the connection is very sometimes
[12:36] <Bad_boy> The driver is rt61pci, shall i installed rt61 for improved perofrmance
[12:36] <Agent_bob> !wifi | Bad_boy i do like that discription "very sometimes"  :)
[12:36] <ubotu> Bad_boy i do like that discription "very sometimes"  :): Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:37] <Bad_boy> ok, most of the times
[12:38] <Agent_bob> i have to went
[12:38] <[gquit]bombadil> !update
[12:38] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:38] <Agent_bob> left
[12:39] <_ruben> the disk partition tool that's used during ubuntu (server) install, is that also available as command after ubuntu has been installed?
[12:39] <Ermok> Nice bot : D
[12:39] <Drk_Guy> Hi guys
[12:39] <Drk_Guy> How can i setup my gamepads?
[12:40] <Drk_Guy> ...
[12:40] <Ermok> I was just thinking.. damn why are so many people asking questions then I realised "Official Ubuntu Support Channel"
[12:40] <vix> Thirsteh, now I can mount my ntfs again :D
[12:40] <Thirsteh> :)
[12:40] <Drk_Guy> How can i setup my gamepads?
[12:41] <Drk_Guy>  vix, install ntfs-config
[12:41] <Drk_Guy> it does everything
[12:41] <vix> Drk_Guy, got it installed, but now it works out of the box :P
[12:41] <vix> thnx anyway.
[12:41] <Drk_Guy> kk
[12:43] <Drk_Guy> How can i setup my gamepads?
[12:44] <badboy_> ciao
[12:44] <vix> Drk_Guy, hold on i know there is some program for that.
[12:44] <Drk_Guy> kk
[12:45] <Drk_Guy> so
[12:45] <Drk_Guy> which is the app's name?
[12:45] <otto_> cia
[12:48] <cyril> salut tous le monde
[12:49] <peleg> hey: when I try to enter "screen" I get this message: "Directory '/var/run/screen' must have mode 777." - any advice?
[12:49] <Thirsteh> peleg, 'sudo chmod 0777 /var/run/screen'
[12:49] <lxusr> hello all
[12:49] <lxusr> how can i remove an user
[12:49] <Thirsteh> peleg, then try the command again
[12:50] <peleg> Thirsteh: but I don't want to chmod this folder to 777; why should I ?
[12:50] <cyril> je cherche le nom du paquet pour msn
[12:50] <vix> lxusr, in graphical mode try, System->Administration->Users and groups
[12:50] <lxusr> vix, thanks
[12:50] <Yellow^flu> cyril: c'est seulementa anglophone ici, tu dois aller a #ubuntu-fr pour aide en français
[12:50] <vix> then select one and delete.
[12:50] <Yellow^flu> *seulement
[12:51] <Thirsteh> peleg, I'm guessing there's a binary there that needs to be executable by normal users, or a file that needs to be writable. It's not a huge security breach if that's what you're concerned about
[12:51] <Yellow^flu> (cyril: soit, c'est amsn que tu cherches)
[12:51] <Thirsteh> peleg, probably it's the latter since it wants you to chmod the folder
[12:52] <peleg> Thirsteh: ok, but it is still weird. on my Debian I didn't need to do that.
[12:53] <alek66> does anyone knows how to set audacious as my mp3 default application
[12:53] <Thirsteh> peleg, I don't have a lot of experience with screen, sorry. You could try just chmodding it 0766 and seeing if it'll run
[12:54] <Dr_willis> alek66,  right click on a mp3 file. check the properties/dialog box's - you set the default app in there somewhere..
[12:54] <peleg> Thirsteh: thanks.
[12:59] <vix> How do i set the default screen resolution when I log in? Everytime i log in I get a lower resolution than I should.. ( Got latest fglrx driver installed for my ati card )
[13:01] <penguin92> hey every one im back with another sound prblem
[13:01] <LadyNikon> vix: under the system section there should be a screen program
[13:01] <furythor> I have problem with my external hard drive, it auto mounts to /media/<name> but root owns it and I can't change rights so I could write for it...
[13:02] <penguin92> when i press mute on my keyboard it mutes the headphone channel in sound how can i change it
[13:02] <vix> LadyNikon, yes been there.. but next time I log in, its choosing a lower resolution.
[13:02] <LadyNikon> vix: weird.. mine has always stayed
[13:03] <LadyNikon> vix: are you sure thats a resolution for your monitor?
[13:03] <penguin92> prince_jammys: hey hey hey
[13:03] <antool> a u nas snieg pada ... :-)
[13:03] <LadyNikon> antool: english please
[13:03] <dgjones> !pl | antool
[13:03] <penguin92> can anyone help me with my sound problem
[13:03] <ubotu> antool: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[13:03] <vix> LadyNikon, yes im sure of it. cause I have to manually change resolution and its working fine, with compiz and everything.
[13:03] <vix> LadyNikon, it used to do that before when I installed the graphic driver through restricted drivers, but then compiz didnt work, so now I installed it through envy instead.
[13:03] <LadyNikon> vix: frequency?
[13:04] <penguin92> anybody ????????????/
[13:04] <vix> furythor, is it an ntfs drive?
[13:04] <LadyNikon> penguin92: what is your sound problem? and please wait tils omeone can help you
[13:04] <vix> LadyNikon, what?
[13:04] <LadyNikon> penguin92: if you cant find it here. try the forums
[13:04] <LadyNikon> vix: the frequency of the monitor.. its under the resolution
[13:04] <vix> penguin92, whats the problem
[13:05] <penguin92> LadyNikon: thanks my sound problem is when i press mute on my keyboard it mutes the headphone channel
[13:05] <vix> LadyNikon, 75 Hz
[13:05] <vix> its an 19" capable of showing 1280x1024, but I get 800x600 when I log in.
[13:05] <LadyNikon> vix: have you checked to see that the resolution matches that frequency?
[13:05] <penguin92> vix: as i said above when i press mute it mutes the headphone channel
[13:06] <vix> LadyNikon, I guess i havent :S
[13:07] <vix> penguin92, u dont want to mute headphone when u press mute?
[13:08] <vix> LadyNikon, how do I check that?
[13:08] <penguin92> no i want it to mute speakers
[13:08] <LadyNikon> penguin92: what do you want to mute? I guess is a better question
[13:08] <penguin92> LadyNikon: speakers of pcm 2
[13:08] <LadyNikon> vix: check your manufacture specs for the monitor.. and see if the frequency changes for the resolution
[13:09] <vix> LadyNikon, ok i try that.
[13:10] <JuJuBee> I need help with cron ... I have a shell script that I was running via cron and it was working.  I changed the time to execute in crontab and now it is not working.  How do I debug cron?  The script runs fine if I run it from command line.
[13:11] <penguin92> LadyNikon: so i want to mute speakers
[13:12] <LadyNikon> i dunno what to do.  i was just saying if you stated your problem. And wait to see if someone can help you
[13:19] <agame> anyone here?
[13:19] <Asra> pretty much here yes
[13:20] <Asra> can anyone tell me how to access the .bash_profile?
[13:20] <jrib> Asra: why? what do you want to do?
[13:20] <Asra> I wanna kill it :P
[13:20] <cofeineSunshine> ;]]
[13:21] <hfmls> guys
[13:21] <Antscape> sup
[13:21] <cofeineSunshine> y0y0y
[13:21] <Asra> no .. I need to add a commandline to it .. its suppose to make a specific location into a standard name lol $BACKUP
[13:21] <Antscape> :)
[13:21] <hfmls> sometime ago i used a software named emessen
[13:21] <hfmls> or somethin, now i can't find it, do u know that?
[13:21] <Antscape> :-*
[13:21] <Antscape> 8-)
[13:21] <Antscape> 8-)
[13:21] <jrib> Asra: gedit ~/.bash_profile
[13:21] <Asra> thnx
[13:21] <jpatrick> !ot | Antscape
[13:21] <ubotu> Antscape: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:21] <cofeineSunshine> Asra, try to edit ./.bashrc
[13:21] <cofeineSunshine> or look into /etc/skel/
[13:22] <hagabaka> hmm
[13:22] <hagabaka> what's /etc/skel/?
[13:23] <jrib> hagabaka: when you create a new user, the files in /etc/skel/ get copied over to his HOME
[13:23] <hagabaka> some OOo, iamge and music files but no plain text files
[13:23] <hagabaka> :O
[13:24] <hagabaka> starting from a recent release?
[13:24] <Layla> hi
[13:24] <agame> hagabaka are you chinese?
[13:24] <jrib> hagabaka: no, it's been like that as long as I can remember
[13:24] <hagabaka> agame: yes, how did you know?
[13:24] <kaushal> hi
[13:24] <Antscape> who needs help?
[13:24] <Layla> me
[13:24] <kaushal> what is the purpose of initrd.img-2.6.20-16-generic, System.map-2.6.20-16-generic
[13:24] <ToxinPowe> hfmls, http://emesene.org/trac/wiki/WikiStartES ?
[13:24] <kaushal> under /boot partion
[13:24] <hagabaka> i didn't get them copied
[13:24] <kaushal> I know vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic is the linux kernel
[13:25] <jrib> hagabaka: how did you create the new user?
[13:25] <hfmls> that!
[13:25] <Antscape> lol nfi
[13:25] <hagabaka> i mean, i didn't have the Examples dir
[13:25] <ToxinPowe> hfmls, xD spanish name =)
[13:25] <hagabaka> the installation disk did it fo me
[13:25] <hfmls> thank you ToxinPowe  its a really ocol program, real cleans
[13:25] <hfmls> spanish?
[13:25] <hfmls> lol
[13:25] <hagabaka> maybe /etc/skel/Example is new
[13:25] <hfmls> hfml : helder filipe moreira leite
[13:25] <hfmls> :D
[13:26] <jrib> hagabaka: yes, a couple of releases
[13:26] <keito> I've got a bunch of folders with music in and album art under various names, rhythmbox won't always display the art as it isn't named right.   anyone know of a way to resolve this w/o going through every folder and renaming them???
[13:26] <Antscape> initrd.img is an initial ramdisk
[13:26] <hagabaka> i started from edgy
[13:27] <Antscape> penis
[13:27] <Antscape> sorry
[13:27] <Layla> is there someone so kind to help me with the installation of ubunt? i'm a total newbie
[13:27] <Antscape> keito use a script to rename maybe
[13:28] <keito> Antscape: thought someone would say that
[13:28] <JuJuBee> What does it mean when you get a message telling you dcopserver not running, and you cannot login?
[13:28] <jrib> Layla: the best way to get help is to explain to the channel in as much detail as possible and on one line what the problem is
[13:28] <Antscape> rename *.jpg whatever.jpg
[13:28] <keito> some folder have several images in
[13:29] <keito> I'd have to create some form of filter to find keywords like cover.jpg folder.jpg cover etc...
[13:29] <keito> not gonna be fun
[13:29] <Antscape> then it will say are you sure you want to replace just do yes or no maybe
[13:29] <Antscape> make a program
[13:29] <keito> i got like 400gb+ an I in't sittingthere all night to do that
[13:29] <keito> ;0)
[13:29] <lxusr> i have deleted the user , but i can login with it ...
[13:29] <lxusr> i still can login
[13:30] <jrib> lxusr: how did you delete it?
[13:30] <Antscape> make a program and use it to do it
[13:30] <keito> looks like I shall have to ;0)
[13:30] <keito> Layla: whats the problem
[13:30] <Antscape> im not sure how to make a program in linux though cause i only use windows
[13:30] <lxusr> jrib from system / administration / users and groups
[13:30] <keito> hat you doing here then! lol
[13:30] <keito> what^
[13:30] <jrib> lxusr: is he still listed in /etc/passwd?
[13:30] <lxusr> jrib, it seems yes
[13:30] <Antscape> but then you wonder why im in here it was to piss people off but then i think i was banned so i pretend to be nice
[13:31] <lxusr> i don't know really
[13:31] <MatBoy> what nvidia driver can I use best ? the -new or the normal version ?
[13:31] <lxusr> how to know this
[13:31] <keito> Antscape: lol, i ditched win long ago
[13:31] <jrib> lxusr: gedit /etc/passwd  and search for him there
[13:31] <keito> still each to their own
[13:31] <lxusr> jrib, yes, i fount it public:x:1001:1001:,,,,:/home/public:/bin/bash
[13:31] <Layla> I've got ubuntu 7.10 i386 from the site, i've inserted the cd and i've started the installation. It stops when it arrives to load the drivers and dont' go. I tried two times but it stop always at the same point.
[13:31] <keito> Layla: how long have you left it for
[13:31] <jrib> Layla: and he is no longer listed in system -> administration -> users and groups?
[13:32] <jrib> lxusr: and he is no longer listed in system -> administration -> users and groups?
[13:32] <Antscape> i used ubuntu for a while last year, just didn't have enough program support so i stopped and i didn't know how to program in it do you?
[13:32] <wickedwackguy> hi
[13:32] <MatBoy> is there a big difference between the nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-new ?
[13:32] <lxusr> jrib, i delete it but when i enter again to users and groups he is listed again as user there
[13:32] <furythor> Can wine be made to be ran by multiple users ?
[13:32] <wickedwackguy> for some reason ubuntu says it cannot format the harddrive
[13:32] <keito> Antscape: there are many ways to program in ubuntu. choosing whats right for you
[13:32] <jrib> lxusr: in a terminal, what does 'sudo echo hi' return for you?
[13:32] <furythor> or is even it is on someone's home directory ?
[13:33] <Antscape> can you use c++ ? or c?
[13:33] <lxusr> jrib: hi
[13:33] <Pici> !ot | Antscape
[13:33] <ubotu> Antscape: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:33] <Layla> five minute and the screen became black. if i press enter, it doesn't change anything.
[13:33] <keito> Antscape: you can use it, I don't know it though.  I know a little java however
[13:33] <furythor> Antscape yes and gtk+ is also uaws...
[13:33] <jrib> lxusr: hmm.  Well try using "deluser" to delete the user
[13:33] <Antscape> i like visual studio 2008 makes it so fast an easy with the autocomplete
[13:34] <jrib> Antscape: stay ontopic here.  Ubuntu support only.  Thanks!
[13:34] <wickedwackguy> for some reason ubuntu says it cannot format the harddrive. anybody an idea?
[13:34] <keito> Layla: leave it a little longer perhaps, then try removing some internal hardware perhaps, wifi cards etc
[13:34] <gimme_snuggles> Hi everybody!
[13:34] <Antscape> jrib: want me to come over there and rip your fucking head off, shut the fuck up please
[13:34] <keito> Antscape: gc++ is a c++ for ubuntu (i think)
[13:34] <babo_> I'm being offered a broadband solution by a company that uses line-of-sight transmitters in my area and transmits over proprietary, licensed frequencies. What's the technical name for that kind of broadband setup ?
[13:34] <keito> wickedwackguy: what drive
[13:35] <wickedwackguy> •keito• the main drive. in fact there is only one and i want to install ubuntu as the main system
[13:35] <keito> Antscape: well gnome anyhow
[13:35] <Layla> Keito: i can't remove anything... it's a notebook, linked with nothing... no usb deveices or print machine
[13:35] <furythor> babo_ that is still one type of wlan connection, I am not sure of exact name...
[13:35] <keito> wickedwackguy: is this during install from a live disc or what?
[13:35] <gimme_snuggles> wickedwackguy: so you just want to partition. format, and install ubuntu on the whole drive?
[13:35] <babo_> furythor, hmm
[13:35] <furythor> Babo_ and in which country this is ?
[13:36] <keito> Layla: then try leaving it a while longer
[13:36] <babo_> furythor, Ireland
[13:36] <wickedwackguy> •gimme_snuggles• install it to the whole drive form liveCD
[13:36] <maximilion> babo_, sounds like Radio LAN
[13:36] <david08> hello, i just bought a new ipod that works good under win. what do i do for ubuntu, do i just plug it in?
[13:36] <Layla> keito: let's try for the third time XD
[13:36] <gimme_snuggles> !register
[13:36] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[13:36] <bardyr> david08, try
[13:36] <babo_> maximilion, micro-wave frequencies ?
[13:36] <keito> wickedwackguy: what is the current filesystem of the drive
[13:36] <maximilion> Well... it's not radio, but it's called that here
[13:37] <maximilion> I would go for a cable connection if possible
[13:37] <wickedwackguy> •keito• left overs from dreamlinux. ext3 and swap
[13:37] <maximilion> It's only used in the remote parts here, where there's 2km between each house :P
[13:37] <MatBoy> mhh, my 8600GT is not recognized with Xinerama :S
[13:38] <keito> wickedwackguy: have you tried formatting in gparted from ubuntu (live disc)
[13:38] <david08> bardyr: rythimbox opened
[13:38] <furythor> Since I know that there is multiple technologies for wireless connection, but I really wonder how a frequency can be owned by someone ...
[13:38] <b4l74z4r> i have a sound blaster card and i think that the sound is richer and more detailed in xp than in ubuntu, is it podssible that xp has "better" or different drivers than ubuntu?
[13:38] <furythor> babo_ what kind ranges they give for this "line of sight" ?
[13:38] <babo_> furythor, ranges as in ?
[13:38] <babo_> bw ?
[13:39] <furythor> any form...
[13:39] <wickedwackguy> •keito• no, just the "normal" partition app that is in the installer
[13:39] <furythor> like yards or meters
[13:39] <keito> wickedwackguy: its strange as I've formatted a disc from dreamlinux for an ubuntu install and had no trouble
[13:39] <maximilion> furythor, I think it's the usual super high bandwidth shared by all
[13:39] <keito> wickedwackguy: gnome partition manager?
[13:39] <lxusr> jrib, but how to remove user if he is still login in..
[13:39] <lxusr> it is possible?
[13:39] <furythor> is there any reason to install "wine door" ?
[13:39] <babo_> furythor, they don't say. their contention ratio is 24:1, they offer up to 10Mbps/2Mbps. They don't say anything on ranges though ...
[13:40] <jrib> lxusr: hmm, why not just log him out?
[13:40] <szachista__> hi
[13:40] <lxusr> jrib: can you tell me how please
[13:40] <walkriver> hi
[13:40] <szachista__> which option should i pass to program to run it with different locales?
[13:40] <wickedwackguy> •keito• so your saysing i should try to use the partiton app first and then the live install?
[13:40] <furythor> so that looks kind of weird for me...
[13:40] <keito> wickedwackguy: yeah try to wipe the disc, then install
[13:40] <lxusr> jrib, i am not on that user
[13:41] <mattisdada> hi
[13:41] <furythor> babo_ do they mention that will you get any kind connection box to your end ?
[13:41] <keito> you need to run gparted (gnome partition manager) as root
[13:41] <wickedwackguy> •keito• ok im booting up the other system
[13:41] <szachista__> i want gimp to use english locales because it's easier to follow tutorial with that, but i can't figure out how to change it
[13:41] <keito> good luck
[13:41] <jrib> lxusr: well one way would be to reboot and never login with him.  Or, you can kill all of his processes with: pkill -u public
[13:41] <gimme_snuggles> wickedwackguy: hey, is it not letting you commit the partition changes or the formatting changes?
[13:41] <lxusr> jrib, understood,thanks
[13:41] <keito> gimme_snuggles: looks that way
[13:42] <wickedwackguy> •gimme_snuggles• both
[13:42] <gimme_snuggles> keito: do u know which?
[13:42] <Raizard> Can anyone tell me how to install World Of Warcraft with wine?
[13:42] <b4l74z4r> i have a sound blaster card and i think that the sound is richer and more detailed in xp than in ubuntu, is it podssible that xp has "better" or different drivers than ubuntu?
[13:42] <babo_> furythor, yeah, you get a receiever that you put on the roof
[13:42] <rofrol> hello
[13:43] <furythor> Babo_ and how connection comes to your computer ?
[13:43] <wickedwackguy> ahhhh crap
[13:43] <gimme_snuggles> wickedwackguy: oh both i see, and thats with the default installer on the cd? are you using a Gusty 7.10 install cd or a Live CD that runs the operating system from a cd?
[13:43] <wickedwackguy> i gotta go to work in 15
[13:43] <babo_> furythor, cable from the roof
[13:43] <keito> b4l74z4r: yeah its possible... are you using alsa or oss?
[13:43] <rofrol> how can i remotely connect to my pc if i am behind nat?
[13:43] <wickedwackguy> •gimme_snuggles• default installer
[13:43] <rofrol> i want to use ssh
[13:43] <b4l74z4r> keito, i don't know, i'm using whatever is default
[13:43] <wickedwackguy> •gimme_snuggles• on gutsy
[13:43] <furythor> babo_ you mean lan cable ? or some other kind of cable ?
[13:43] <dgjones> !ssh | rofrol
[13:43] <ubotu> rofrol: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[13:44] <keito> b4l74z4r: OSS i tend to find is better
[13:44] <maximilion> furythor, surely any connection connects via RJ65 :)
[13:44] <b4l74z4r> keito, ok, i'll try it out, thanks
[13:44] <maximilion> babo_, I think you can choose any connection that suits your needs - if it has an external modem, it usually connects fine to your network port.
[13:44] <gimme_snuggles> wickedwackguy: keito is right, u may be better off trying a different cd or program to repartition the drive. What error occurs when u try to partition the drive using the default installer
[13:45] <maximilion> babo_, I mean that I don't think you have to choose anything special afraid that it won't work in Linux :)
[13:45] <rofrol> dgjones, but i am behind nat
[13:45] <wickedwackguy> •gimme_snuggles• yeah, im gonna give that a shot
[13:45] <keito> b4l74z4r: type alt+F2 then gstreamer-properties to see what you're using
[13:46] <furythor> Can wine be run by multiple users, even if I install it for me ?
[13:46] <wickedwackguy> if GNOME didnt take this long ot load.....
[13:46] <maximilion> bye guys
[13:46] <babo_> maximilion, k thanks
[13:47] <wickedwackguy> thanks for the tips! im gonna try them out after work!
[13:47] <wickedwackguy> cya!
[13:47] <gimme_snuggles> wickedwackguy: hmm
[13:48] <beardedchimp> is there a way to turn the keys into a mouse when my mouse batterys run out?
[13:48] <gimme_snuggles> i have a theory about wickedwackguy
[13:48] <rofrol> dgjones, i think i need reversing ssh connection: http://www.vdomck.org/2005/11/21/reversing-an-ssh-connection/
[13:48] <gimme_snuggles> does the ubuntu live mount partitions on the drive by default?
[13:49] <gimme_snuggles> say existing linux or windows partitions?
[13:49] <amenado> nope
[13:49] <gimme_snuggles> it detects them but it doesnt mount them?
[13:49] <dgjones> rofrol, i've not got any experience in setting up ssh yet, i can only point you at ubotu's info, maybe ask in a bit more detail in the channel, if anybody is around that can help, i'm sure they will
[13:50] <amenado> correct, only detects them and do not mount them
[13:51] <grezlam_> hi
[13:51] <joshjacklin> has anyone ever used tvtime before?
[13:54] <billenium> finally i reinstalled ubuntu :P
[13:55] <gimme_snuggles> hurray billenium!
[13:55] <aboo0ood> Hi guys, i have installed Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon on my Lenovo N200 laptop and i am facing a sound problem here, it does not work at all, can any one help !??!
[13:56] <MatBoy> mhh, a 8600GT suck with ubuntu :S
[13:56] <MatBoy> sucks
[13:56] <MatBoy> it should be doable... but I doubt it for now
[13:57] <billenium> How do i install a LAMP server on ubuntu 7.10 (without using XAMPP)
[13:57] <gimme_snuggles> aboo0ood: i might be able to help a little
[13:57] <dgjones> aboo0ood, this might be the answer http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=562654 - 5th post down in the thread
[13:58] <gimme_snuggles> !audio
[13:58] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[13:59] <mad_max02> anyone gaming on his ubuntu ?
[14:00] <mad_max02> I'm looking for a way to run GGClient under wine
[14:01] <joshjacklin> i was wondering if anyones used tvtime before how do you change the video source
[14:01] <joshjacklin> it has set its self to default and it wont let me change it
[14:01] <billenium> Whoops, nevermind, seems its really easy to install a LAMP server.(i just need these packages in synaptic:apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-serve... i think)
[14:01] <mad_max02> lol
[14:01] <gimme_snuggles> mad_max02: only game i play on linux has been Enemy Territory, which has a linux native installer and such. It also runs great
[14:01] <gimme_snuggles> !lamp
[14:01] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[14:01] <joshjacklin> !bulb
[14:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bulb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:02] <joshjacklin> lol
[14:02] <mad_max02> gimme_snuggles, yeah. ET is a good game. I also play UT series and Q4
[14:02] <billenium> haha funny?
[14:02] <mad_max02> gimme_snuggles, I'm not a big gamer or anything but I just cant live without TD maps and warcraft :D
[14:02] <pocketdrumme1> Is there any Linux alternative to something like Peerguardian?
[14:02] <gimme_snuggles> mad_max02: oooh nice, i have a very old computer so i cant play much
[14:02] <mad_max02> hehe
[14:02] <gimme_snuggles> hehe
[14:02] <gimme_snuggles> ooooo
[14:02] <gimme_snuggles> weird
[14:02] <mad_max02> how do you run ET:QW then ?
[14:02] <Itaku> bbl i hate the alpha linux ubuntu and im switching back to current update... i cant run mirc on it .-.
[14:03] <mad_max02> lol
[14:03] <mad_max02> okay dude
[14:03] <gimme_snuggles> not the new ET:QW
[14:03] <gimme_snuggles> the old one :\
[14:03] <mad_max02> ah :D
[14:03] <mad_max02> lol
[14:03] <gimme_snuggles> a mod of return to castle wolfenstien
[14:03] <mad_max02> my mistake
[14:03] <gimme_snuggles> quake wars I WISH
[14:03] <mad_max02> lol
[14:03] <gimme_snuggles> i need to rob someone of their gaming pc Grrrrr
[14:03] <Asra> whats the replacement file for .bash_profile under ubuntu? ... cause if found the way to open such a file but it doesn't seem to exist
[14:03] <mad_max02> I'm playing CnC3 Tiberium Wars as we speak
[14:04] <mad_max02> windowed
[14:04] <mad_max02> just to try out
[14:04] <gimme_snuggles> ooo
[14:04] <gimme_snuggles> are u using win/cedega?
[14:04] <mad_max02> gimme_snuggles, well I have a fairly good rig but definitely decided to get rid of the Windoze shit
[14:04] <mad_max02> yeah wine
[14:05] <mad_max02> I have a 8800GT card laying somewhere but didnt put it in coz I dont wanna install Vista and game on my pc
[14:05] <gimme_snuggles> i would go fully linux if i had better luck with wine
[14:05] <gimme_snuggles> i know
[14:05] <mad_max02> I'm just a multimedia user and I like linux
[14:05] <aricz_> still you're trying tiberium wars with wine in linux.. :D
[14:06] <mad_max02> yah
[14:06] <mad_max02> just to see what it can do
[14:06] <mahmoud2> mad_max02: CNC 3 is working with wine ? !
[14:06] <mad_max02> btw as I said theres only one game I cant go without and thats Warcraft III and Tower Defence maps :D
[14:07] <mad_max02> mahmoud2, OFC dude
[14:07] <mad_max02> :D
[14:07] <mad_max02> everything on max
[14:07] <gimme_snuggles> thats odd
[14:07] <mad_max02> only need to turn shader off
[14:07] <mad_max02> whats odd ?
[14:08] <mad_max02> gimme_snuggles, what games do you play in windows ?
[14:08] <gimme_snuggles> only with tower defense it doesnt work?
[14:08] <mad_max02> wc3 ?
[14:08] <gimme_snuggles> in windows i used to play a lot more than i do now, star craft, counter strike
[14:08] <gimme_snuggles> yah know all the classics
[14:08] <mad_max02> all those games work nice in wine
[14:08] <mad_max02> :)
[14:08] <mad_max02> you can delete ur win partition now :)
[14:08] <gimme_snuggles> i tried sc, and it had mucho problems
[14:09] <mad_max02> nah dude
[14:09] <gimme_snuggles> very sluggish
[14:09] <mad_max02> u didnt try right :D
[14:09] <pocketdrummer> Can someone walk me through installing moblock?
[14:09] <gimme_snuggles> obviously
[14:09] <gimme_snuggles> i thought maybe my system is to slow or somethign
[14:09] <aricz_> why play games with win/cedega if you can play them natively in windows ? :))
[14:09] <mad_max02> my problem now is how to convert 3x 500GB hdds into linux FS
[14:09] <gimme_snuggles> but its quiet possible that it was a config problem
[14:09] <nemilar> aricz_: to avoid a reboot
[14:09] <mad_max02> aricz_, well windows was my primary and/or only system for years
[14:09] <aricz_> I would reboot for better performance.. but I'm just crazy
[14:09] <gimme_snuggles> the point is to get rid of windows
[14:10] <aricz_> :]
[14:10] <mad_max02> I installed linux few months ago
[14:10] <mad_max02> and I never had so much fun with win as I had with linux
[14:10] <nemilar> aricz_: yeah but at some point, you don't notice the performance increase... if you can get things working well enough in Wine, then there's no point
[14:10] <mad_max02> btw as I said gaming is not my priority no more
[14:10] <billenium> only took 10 mintes to make a LAMP Server
[14:10] <billenium> lol
[14:10] <mad_max02> and yeah I dont like MS and never did
[14:10] <a_l_a_n> Only installed last night and already the stupid packman has itself in a twist. $ apt-get dist-upgrade  -> Couldn't configure pre-depend python-central for python-apt, probably a dependency cycle. HELP PLEASE :S
[14:11] <gimme_snuggles> hehe billenium
[14:11] <gimme_snuggles> !lamp
[14:11] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[14:11] <Pici> a_l_a_n: What release are you running?
[14:11] <gimme_snuggles> Is lamp just a collection of programs used together to run a web server?
[14:11] <nemilar> It sure works out nice how all the scripting languages start with P
[14:11] <Pici> gimme_snuggles: yes.
[14:11] <nemilar> gimme_snuggles: yeah, it's called a stack
[14:11] <Bodsda> nemilar, perfect ;~)
[14:11] <gimme_snuggles> cool
[14:12] <gimme_snuggles> ty
[14:12] <mad_max02> lamp is a good thing
[14:12] <mad_max02> fuck I'm off
[14:12] <a_l_a_n> Pici: Gutsy, Kubuntu
[14:12] <mad_max02> c u people later
[14:12] <Bodsda> !language
[14:12] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[14:12] <nemilar> !language | mad_max02
[14:12] <ubotu> mad_max02: please see above
[14:12] <mad_max02> lol
[14:12] <mad_max02> :D
[14:12] <TheLittlePrince> What is ubotu?
[14:12] <Bodsda> !lol | mad_max02
[14:12] <ubotu> mad_max02: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[14:12] <Pici> !bot  | TheLittlePrince
[14:12] <ubotu> TheLittlePrince: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[14:12] <mad_max02> :D
[14:13] <mad_max02> ok ok I got it
[14:13] <gimme_snuggles> hehe
[14:13] <Pici> a_l_a_n: Is this an upgrade or a fresh install?
[14:13] <gimme_snuggles> max
[14:13] <mad_max02> ya ?
[14:13] <gimme_snuggles> did u have to do anything special to config wine? or specific games
[14:13] <mad_max02> lol no
[14:13] <gimme_snuggles> hm
[14:13] <mad_max02> installed latest ver manually
[14:14] <mad_max02> set it to emulate winxp
[14:14] <mad_max02> and thats it
[14:14] <gimme_snuggles> yes
[14:14] <Bodsda> gimme_snuggles, sometimes you need to change the compatible os,.,.and sound device,.,.and run     winecfg    straight away
[14:14] <rufus_> I have a ubuntu text-based install disc. When I boot into it, it completely ignores it and goes right to grub(which is broken). Is my CD corrupted?
[14:14] <mad_max02> there are some DLLs that u need to download and copy
[14:14] <TheLittlePrince> ubotu: How old are you? ^^
[14:14] <mad_max02> but basically thats it
[14:14] <mad_max02> TheLittlePrince, dude ur talking to a bot
[14:14] <Bodsda> rufus_, have you set your system bios to boot fromm cd?
[14:14] <gimme_snuggles> hmm maybe i should give it a try sometime again
[14:14] <a_l_a_n> Pici: Fresh
[14:14] <mad_max02> hehehe
[14:14] <mad_max02> gimme_snuggles, trust me it works
[14:14] <rufus_> Bodsda, i use the F12 boot menu
[14:14] <gimme_snuggles> if i cant get it to work up to par ill chalk it up to my system being to dusty :P
[14:15] <mad_max02> esp for older games
[14:15] <Bodsda> rufus_, go into bios, and change the boot order,.,.just incase
[14:15] <rufus_> it used to be a messed up version of gentoo, and I cant get rid of grub
[14:15] <rufus_> i deleted all partitions with gparted livecd, and its still there
[14:15] <gimme_snuggles> well the thing is, games like sc and counterstrike loaded and played, but had terribly bad frame rates and such
[14:15] <Bodsda> !supergrub
[14:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about supergrub - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:16] <dgjones> rufus_, you need to check you bios settings to make sure that your computer is able to boot from cd before it tries to boot from the hard drive
[14:16] <mad_max02> I'm off
[14:16] <Bodsda> gimme_snuggles, mad_max02, please take your descussion to #winehq
[14:16] <rufus_> i've booted from a CD before with the F12 menu
[14:16] <rufus_> and it worked fine
[14:16] <TheLittlePrince> mad_max02: I've never been here before. Thank you...^^
[14:16] <rufus_> it even worked with a different ubuntu disc
[14:16] <a_l_a_n> Pici: Maybe its because I changed my sources.list. Whats the best practice list?
[14:17] <Bodsda> how do you remove an old broken grub loader?
[14:17] <rufus_> good question
[14:17] <dgjones> rufus_, do you still get the F12 menu and option to boot from cd? if so and its not working, you might need to redownload/burn a new cd
[14:17] <bazhang> with a crowbar
[14:17] <gimme_snuggles> Bodsda: naw its ok, just had a curious notion.
[14:17] <Pici> a_l_a_n: Ah... that could be it.  Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[14:17] <rufus_> dgjones, yes, it goes directly to grub, like the cd isnt even there
[14:17] <Bodsda> gimme_snuggles, ok,.but its offtopic here
[14:17] <Pici> !paste | a_l_a_n
[14:17] <ubotu> a_l_a_n: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[14:17] <bazhang> heya Bodsda
[14:18] <gimme_snuggles> Bodsda: roger that
[14:18] <Bodsda> bazhang, hey dude ;~) how ya doin?
[14:18] <Bodsda> gimme_snuggles, cheers ,.;~)
[14:18] <TheLittlePrince> Bodsda: After booting Ubuntu CD, reinstall grub.
[14:19] <gimme_snuggles> rufus: uve used the same cd on the same computer?
[14:19] <Bodsda> TheLittlePrince, cannot boot cd because of grub
[14:19] <rufus_> gimme_snuggles, no, it was a different one
[14:19] <rufus_> i lost it
[14:19] <Bodsda> TheLittlePrince, please direct your response on the issue to rufus_ ,.as its him who has the problem
[14:19] <JuJuBee> Only one line in dcopserver file !:DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed networkIdsList argument is NULL
[14:19] <JuJuBee> What does that mean?
[14:19] <a_l_a_n> Pici: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56061/
[14:19] <gimme_snuggles> rufus: different cd or diff computer?
[14:19] <dgjones> rufus_, before you download/burn a new cd, you could try that cd on a different computer to see if works there
[14:20] <Bodsda> a_l_a_n, that seems extremely small to me
[14:20] <rufus_> gimme_snuggles, different cd
[14:20] <TheLittlePrince> Bodsda: I've solved the problem before. Um... Can you change the order of booting in your computer?
[14:20] <gimme_snuggles> rufus: aw ha, i would check the cd. its possible you didnt burn it as an image thus not making it bootable, or perhaps the download was corrupted
[14:21] <Bodsda> TheLittlePrince, (rufus_) has the problem not me
[14:21] <a_l_a_n> Bodsda: Shrug. New install. The only additions were because I wanted stuff like MPlayer that didnt seem to be in the default. Post your?
[14:21] <gimme_snuggles> rufus: try it on a different computer would be my suggestion, like dgjones said
[14:22] <Bodsda> a_l_a_n, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56062/
[14:22] <rufus_> how can I un-install a broken grub loader
[14:22] <gimme_snuggles> !grub
[14:22] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[14:22] <Bodsda> rufus_, have you got a windows machine available?
[14:23] <rufus_> Bodsda, im on it
[14:23] <Bodsda> rufus_, put the problematic hardrive in that machine and fully format it
[14:23] <gimme_snuggles> Bodsda: are you in here often? i just started comming in about a day ago
[14:23] <rufus_> Bodsa, that is a desktop, this is a laptop.
[14:23] <a_l_a_n> Bodsda: THanks. TRtying it now
[14:23] <rufus_> that wont work
[14:23] <Bodsda> gimme_snuggles, yer i am,.,.but wont be for the next week,.,.half term,.,.im usually here every day
[14:24] <Bodsda> rufus_, ah,.ok,.,.damn
[14:24] <mahmoud2> mad_max02: back .. what's OFC? is that of course ?
[14:24] <gunce> ý have server IRC unreal3.2.6 soo ý have problem for attacks trojan have can I du that for stop attack'ing
[14:24] <gimme_snuggles> Bodsda: coolio
[14:24] <rufus_> Bodsda, maybe I can boot into gentoo livecd and reinstall it
[14:24] <Bodsda> !find supergrub
[14:24] <ubotu> Package/file supergrub does not exist in gutsy
[14:24] <pocketdrummer> Can someone break these instructions down in tard terms? "To manually build the current version you need a "deb-src ..." entry in your apt sources.list. The source is the same for all Debian and Ubuntu flavours. 	 	mkdir moblock cd moblock apt-get build-dep moblock apt-get source moblock cd moblock-0.8 dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot 	 	
[14:24] <pocketdrummer> oops.
[14:24] <Bodsda> rufus_, shouldnt need to,.,.you can try though
[14:25] <pocketdrummer> Ignore that.
[14:25] <rufus_> Bodsa, is there a livecd that I can use just to get a shell on the computer? =\\
[14:25] <gunce> ý have server IRC unreal3.2.6 soo ý have problem for attacks trojan have can I du that for stop attack'ing
[14:25] <walko> Hey, gmplayer keeps on hanging with pulseaudio 0.9.6, does anyone know a solution ?
[14:25] <a_l_a_n> Bodsda: Do I need to worry about these messages from apt-get update: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56064/
[14:26] <Bodsda> rufus_, im out of my depth here,.,. you can use recovery (cli shell) but you need a working grub -- tmk
[14:26] <rufus_> gah
[14:26] <Pici> a_l_a_n: No, you dont need to worry, but I suggest you remove those repos from your sources.list.
[14:26] <gimme_snuggles> rufus: one second
[14:26] <rufus_> it WOULD work, but I deleted the config file
[14:27] <Bodsda> a_l_a_n, the ones about cd's = no  ,.,. the ones bout keys = possibly ,.,.were seeing those keys alot in here recently,.,.not sure how to fix im afraid
[14:27] <gimme_snuggles> rufus: i think all you need to do is pop in a live cd, and craft a grub command telling to install to the mbr using a config file u edit
[14:27] <Bodsda> Pici, what do the problematic repo's contain?
[14:27] <Pici> a_l_a_n: The key errors are for 3rd party repos that you dont need.
[14:27] <Bodsda> ah 2 birds
[14:27] <Pici> Bodsda: Wine, and something else I don't recognise.
[14:27] <rufus_> gimme_snuggles, a livecd for what?
[14:28] <rufus_> this computer has problems with GUI livecd's
[14:28] <dgjones> Bodsda, its Screenlets
[14:28] <a_l_a_n> Bodsda: K. Thanks. Doubtless I shall be back with more errors shortly.
[14:28] <gimme_snuggles> rufus: are u trying to fix your grub boot loader right?
[14:28] <rufus_> yesh
[14:28] <Bodsda> dgjones, ah,.ok,.cheers
[14:28] <gimme_snuggles> rufus: what live cd do u have
[14:28] <rufus_> text-based
[14:28] <rufus_> and text-based kubuntu, too
[14:29] <Bodsda> rufus_, for what distro?
[14:29] <gimme_snuggles> rufus: thats fine u dont need a GUI to repair the grub loader
[14:29] <rufus_> Ubuntu
[14:29] <dgjones> Bodsda, I was looking at them last night, seems to be in the repo's for Hardy when its released, but 3rd party repo for Gutsy etc
[14:29] <Bodsda> rufus_, gutsy?
[14:29] <rufus_> yeps
[14:29] <kostkon> Pici, please add the wine for the wine repo from here: http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb and keep it in your sources.list. it's useful
[14:29] <redmonkey> i'm looking forward to hardy
[14:29] <kostkon> Pici, the key not the wine, sorry
[14:29] <gimme_snuggles> rufus: as long as the OS has grub installed, which gutsy i do believe does
[14:29] <Bodsda> rufus_, when someone asks what distro they want this sort of answer ,.,. ubuntu 7.10 or ubuntu gutsy  ,.,.just to let you no
[14:30] <Pici> kostkon: I have no need for it.
[14:30] <rufus_> okay
[14:30] <Bodsda> dgjones, so do they work ok for hardy?
[14:30] <rufus_> i think the CD might be corrupted, and I might need to configure my BIOS to boot cd first
[14:30] <gimme_snuggles> rufus: so, what is your hard drive, partitioning, and operating system setup
[14:30] <kostkon> Pici, ok, then remove it. but you could add the key and get rid of the warning message you get about it
[14:30] <a_l_a_n> Bodsda: And here we are >:( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56065/
[14:30] <rufus_> gimme_snuggles, partitions are set up
[14:30] <TheLittlePrince> refus_: Have you changed the resolution before starting X server on GUI livecd?
[14:30] <dgjones> Bodsda, I don't know, I've not tried, i was looking for something like that for my gutsy machine last night, thats all I know at the minute
[14:31] <Pici> kostkon: a_l_a_n was the one with the error, not me ;)
[14:31] <kostkon> Pici, ooops!
[14:31] <rufus_> i have /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda2 - I plan to put Ubuntu on one, and Kubuntu on the other (Gutsy)
[14:31] <kostkon> Pici, sorry :(
[14:31] <ThreeFingerPete> what would stop an application from just running from one day to the next, with no changes to ubuntu?
[14:31] <Bodsda> E: Couldn't configure pre-depend python-central for python-apt, probably a dependency cycle.
[14:31] <Bodsda> fix anyone?
[14:31] <rufus_> ThreeFingerPete, what application?
[14:31] <Pici> Bodsda: You too?
[14:31] <Pici> Bodsda: hrmm... /me looks
[14:31] <a_l_a_n> There are a few results in google but no fixes ...
[14:31] <Bodsda> Pici, no, was just asking whole channel,.,.lol
[14:31] <ThreeFingerPete> rufus_: unfortunately, its a game, BosWars
[14:32] <uzbek> hi everybody! where can i get repository list for gutsy?
[14:32] <rufus_> anyway, will ubuntu livecd creat a swap partition for me?
[14:32] <ThreeFingerPete> rufus_: A double click simply has no effect. no disk access even
[14:32] <Pici> rufus_: yes.
[14:32] <Bodsda> uzbek, your repo's or default ones?
[14:32] <gimme_snuggles> rufus: yes
[14:32] <rufus_> ThreeFingerPete, what game?
[14:32] <rufus_> ok
[14:32] <rufus_> i see
[14:33] <joaquin> h
[14:33] <gimme_snuggles> rufus: so what are u trying to accomplish? are u simply trying to boot from cd and its not working?
[14:33] <uzbek> Bodsda, i have installed gutsy as virtual os, now i have only one line in sources.list: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy main
[14:33] <Bodsda> !enter > rufus_     please read pm from ubotu
[14:33] <ThreeFingerPete> rufus_: its called boswars - http://www.boswars.org/
[14:33] <uzbek> Bodsda, i wonna add some other repos
[14:33] <Pici> Bodsda: System>Administration>Software Sources
[14:33] <rufus_> gimme_snuggles, thats not going to work, im not at home with my other computer. ;) im just trying to get some options
[14:33] <Bodsda> uzbek, ok, you need the default list,.,.i dont know where to get it though,.,.;~)
[14:33] <Pici> uzbek: System>Administration>Software Sources
[14:34] <Pici> Bodsda: sorry about that.
[14:34] <uzbek> Bodsda, thanx anyway!
[14:34] <Bodsda> Pici, where would i find the default list, not my one ,.,.tis ok
[14:34] <gimme_snuggles> rufus: but what is your goal. you are going to try and boot from cd and install linux onto a computer is that all?
[14:34] <rufus_> ThreeFingerPete, right click the game -> run/open
[14:34] <uzbek> Pici, i don't have graphics yet, just console, i need the repos to install gnome :)
[14:34] <rufus_> or highlight it, and hit enter
[14:35] <Pici> uzbek: This should work then: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56063/
[14:35] <Bodsda> Pici, why give him backports?
[14:35] <gimme_snuggles> rufus: but what is your goal. you are going to try and boot from cd and install linux onto a computer is that all?
[14:35] <Pici> Bodsda: Why would you not?
[14:36] <pocketdrummer> I followed the instructions here: http://moblock-deb.sourceforge.net/  to Build my own package. I got done with the steps, but now I don't know what to do to install it! Please help.
[14:36] <Bodsda> Pici, is the default sources.list available on the livecd for me to copy off?
[14:36] <a_l_a_n> Bodsda: If I try install python-central it seems to suggest OpenOffice is involved in the problem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56067/
[14:36] <clusty> hey
[14:36] <Pici> Bodsda: I don't know.
[14:36] <Bodsda> Pici, because its not default
[14:36] <ThreeFingerPete> rufus_: no effect, no disk access when i click the elf in the folder
[14:36] <uzbek> Pici, thank you very much!
[14:36] <clusty> how can I mount a smb thing such that only root can read/write the contents?
[14:36] <Pici> Bodsda: Mine is just condensed and missing most of the comment cruft.
[14:36] <clusty> tried umask=077 and wont work
[14:36] <tim168> i want to search a term inside a bunch of files and then see in which files the term is found, how can i do that ? thanks
[14:36] <rufus_> ThreeFingerPete, did you try to highlight it and hit enter/return key?
[14:36] <Bodsda> Pici, ok,.,.;~)
[14:37] <Bodsda> a_l_a_n, do            sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:37] <gimme_snuggles> clusty: you can define it in the fstab or with the mount command
[14:37] <clusty> gimme_snuggles, //192.168.178.100/backup /var/backup cifs username=xxx,password=xxxx,umask=0077,uid=root   0         0
[14:37] <rufus_> ThreeFingerPete, is this running through WINE?
[14:37] <tim168> i can do ls * | grep searchterm, and it finds the term several times, but i don't know in which files it is found, how can i see that ?
[14:37] <Bodsda> tim168,      ./file.text | grep hello          will find the word hello in a file called   file.text  in the directory your in
[14:37] <clusty> gimme_snuggles, thats my fstab line
[14:38] <ThreeFingerPete> rufus: no, its native and a highlight/return has the same lack of effect
[14:38] <pizaninja> hi,maybe someonde could help me...
[14:38] <tim168> Bodsda, can i get grep to show in which file it found a match ?
[14:38] <a_l_a_n> Bodsda: upgrade finished w/o error but the dist-upgrade still fails.
[14:38] <rufus_> ThreeFingerPete, can you run it through the terminal?
[14:38] <mandy18> Hab ein Video gemacht mit meiner Freundin wie ich zu Hause unter der Dusche stehe, wer es mal sehen will kuckt jetzt mal auf meine Homepage:    http://www.mandymaus.de
[14:38] <gimme_snuggles> clusty: and it mounts fine, but instead of having it RWX for every user u want root to own it?
[14:38] <bazhang> ask away pizaninja
[14:38] <pizaninja> I use Ubuntu with thunderbird and my SMTP server really sucks...
[14:39] <pocketdrummer> After I build my own package, how do I install it?
[14:39] <mandy18> Hab ein Video gemacht mit meiner Freundin wie ich zu Hause unter der Dusche stehe, wer es mal sehen will kuckt jetzt mal auf meine Homepage:    http://www.mandymaus.de
[14:39] <clusty> gimme_snuggles, yes
[14:39] <clusty> gimme_snuggles, permissions are too lax
[14:39] <ThreeFingerPete> rufus: i just tried it on my xp machine and its problematic there too.
[14:39] <Bodsda> tim168, not sure ,.,. you might have more luck with your question in   #bash   or    #ubuntu-programming
[14:39] <pizaninja> my email : xxx@yahoo.com
[14:39] <rufus_> hmm
[14:39] <a_l_a_n> Bodsda: Oh no wait, upgrade holds a ton of pakages back ...
[14:39] <gimme_snuggles> clusty: ok one second let me look at ure fstab line
[14:39] <pizaninja> i does not work well
[14:39] <ThreeFingerPete> rufus: I'll try terminal now
[14:39] <tim168> Bodsda ok tnx
[14:39] <bazhang> mandy18 wrong channel for that
[14:39] <rufus_> then theres a problem with the game, not your operating system
[14:39] <Bodsda> tim168, no probs
[14:39] <pizaninja> He refuse one connexion ever 2
[14:39] <pizaninja> over
[14:39] <Bodsda> a_l_a_n, which ones?
[14:40] <pizaninja> so, i'm looking a smtp server without authentification, better than yahoo one
[14:40] <tim168> Bodsda hehe, it's option -H to print filename for each match :)
[14:40] <clusty> gimme_snuggles, whats the unmask for u+rwx o-rwx ?
[14:40] <ThreeFingerPete> rufus: with terminal i get a floating point exception
[14:40] <Bodsda> tim168, cool ;~) ,.,. remember    man grep    and grep --help    will give you help
[14:41] <a_l_a_n> Bodsda: Practically all of them it would appear: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56068/. Google told me I had to do dist-upgrade to fix this.
[14:41] <pizaninja> anyone know a smtp server without authentification ?
[14:41] <pizaninja> anyone know a public smtp server without authentification ?
[14:41] <Bodsda> a_l_a_n, distro?
[14:41] <a_l_a_n> Kubunut 7.10
[14:41] <tim168> Bodsda yes found that in man grep, but now it says "standard input" instead of a file, because i made a pipe :s
[14:41] <ThreeFingerPete> rufus: thank you for your kind assistance
[14:41] <Bodsda> !repeat > pizaninja    please read pm from ubotu
[14:42] <gimme_snuggles> clusty: im not sure
[14:42] <Bodsda> tim168, good stuff
[14:42] <pizaninja> Bodsda : well, it was not exatly a repeat, but a correction...
[14:42] <Pici> !offtopic | pizaninja
[14:42] <ubotu> pizaninja: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[14:42] <tim168> Bodsda well almost, i want to get it to show the filename instead of 'standard input'
[14:42] <pizaninja> ok thx
[14:43] <bazhang> http://www.scalix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Configuring_Sendmail_with_smarthost_Ubuntu_Gutsy pizaninja this might help
[14:43] <rufus_> no problem, ThreeFingerPete
[14:43] <Bodsda> tim168, all i can suggest is those channels and the man and --help files,.,.sorry
[14:43] <pizaninja> bazhang : thx, i'll try
[14:43] <hend> Hi, I can't get any TTY consoles. I am running 7.10 (32bit) and have a ATI radeon 2600 gfxcard (running gflrx). When I try get to a console from X using ctrl+alt+F* all I get is a blank screen. After this I can't even get back into X, so I have to do a hard reset to get it to work again. This is a known bug, but all the workarounds I found (fbcon, radeonfb) don't seem to work for me. Anyone know what I can try?
[14:43] <bazhang> np
[14:43] <cinex> hi folks.
[14:44] <cinex> |Can anybody recomend a mini-pci express wifi card. one that will go into monitor mode. pci-express would be ok too
[14:45] <gimme_snuggles> clutsy: i think for the UID u have to use the UID for root
[14:45] <bazhang> cinex not really a ubuntu support question; you might try #networking
[14:45] <gimme_snuggles> clutsy: and not the name "root"
[14:46] <cinex> I will try bazhang. but I bet you they send me here
[14:46] <gimme_snuggles> clutsy: the UID for root is 0
[14:47] <clusty> gimme_snuggles, what about the umask?
[14:47] <prince_jammys> clusty: rwxrwx--- is umask 007
[14:48] <prince_jammys> clusty: bond, james bond
[14:48] <prince_jammys> clusty: its the opposite of chmod like permissions
[14:48] <redmonkey> is it possible to hide (not completely remove) the upper panel in gnome and get it back without much trouble?
[14:48] <gimme_snuggles> prince_jammysL thanks, im not up to date on my umask codes
[14:48] <gimme_snuggles> !umask
[14:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umask - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:49] <Bodsda> redbox, right click on bar->properties-->autohide
[14:49] <gimme_snuggles> !unmask
[14:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unmask - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:49] <prince_jammys> clusty: zeros because you mask nothing when you do rwx, seven because you mask everything with ---
[14:49] <clusty> prince_jammys, right
[14:49] <clusty> prince_jammys, lemme check
[14:49] <redmonkey> Bodsda: ahh, thanks a lot!
[14:49] <Bodsda> redbox, no probs
[14:50] <clusty> -rwxrw-rw- 1 root users
[14:50] <clusty> is the outcome
[14:50] <gimme_snuggles> prince_jammys: how do the numerals equate to the characters?
[14:50] <mino> anyone installed mail server with this tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixCompleteVirtualMailSystemHowto . And get SASL working with crypted password in the mysql database
[14:50] <gimme_snuggles> prince_jammys: or i will just look it up :P
[14:50] <prince_jammys> gimme_snuggles: do you know normal permissions like chmod 755 and such?
[14:50] <pocketdrummer> How do I remove a stubborn directory?
[14:50] <clusty> prince_jammys, for chmod you have 1=read,2=write,4=exec
[14:51] <clusty> so rwx=7
[14:51] <clusty> r=1
[14:51] <a_l_a_n> Okay. REverting to the original sources.list resolves all problems. Comparing it to the sources.list suggested here the most striking difference appears to be that the original uses dapper rather than gutsy. How to proceed?
[14:51] <prince_jammys> clutsy right, with umask it's the binary inverse
[14:51] <clusty> prince_jammys, but still wont work
[14:51] <pocketdrummer> How do I remove a directory that has contents still in it?
[14:51] <Bodsda> a_l_a_n, what distro are you using?
[14:51] <gimme_snuggles> prince_jammys: oo i see thats easy enough then
[14:51] <prince_jammys> clutsy with umask you write what you CANT do
[14:51] <clusty> pocketdrummer, rm -rf
[14:51] <gimme_snuggles> Thanks guys :P
[14:52] <Bodsda> pocketdrummer, look at the    man rm   or   rm --help
[14:52] <jessid> hello. some idea of a command that allows me to separate a plain text file into words????? thanks
[14:52] <clusty> prince_jammys, tempted to blamu linux for not working
[14:52] <clusty> :D
[14:52] <a_l_a_n> Bodsda: Kubuntu 7.10
[14:52] <Bodsda> clusty, please only recommend that command when accompenied with a warnin
[14:52] <Bodsda> a_l_a_n, then the gutsy would be better then dapper
[14:52] <clusty> Bodsda, i understand :D
[14:52] <prince_jammys> clusty: what's happening? mounting something?
[14:53] <Kuroachia> Is there a wine support chnnel?
[14:53] <golemz> Oh dear.. I suspect my BIOS has juggled around the order of my drives
[14:53] <clusty> prince_jammys, wrote you the outcome
[14:53] <clusty> prince_jammys, -rwxrw-rw- 1 root users
[14:53] <golemz> I've restarted, and now upon boot I get error 15 file not found
[14:53] <a_l_a_n> Bodsda: YOu would think, but it just dont work. Is it normal for the default sources to use dapper when the version is actually gutsy?
[14:53] <Bodsda> Kuroachia, #winehq
[14:53] <clusty> is what comes if i set umask=007
[14:53] <Kuroachia> Bodsda:  Thankyou
[14:53] <gimme_snuggles> prince_jammys: hes trying to mount a smb share as root only, no other user
[14:53] <golemz> How can I see a list of boot files/devices at the grub shell?
[14:53] <Bodsda> a_l_a_n, not sure,.,.wasnt about for the dapper or fiesty releases
[14:54] <Bodsda> Kuroachia, no probs
[14:54] <prince_jammys> gimme_snuggles: clusty oh i have no idea how to do that --- i came in when i saw the umask thing
[14:55] <clusty> prince_jammys, i give up
[14:55] <clusty> :D
[14:55] <gimme_snuggles> clusty: no! im still researching it
[14:55] <gimme_snuggles> clusty: <3
[14:56] <clusty> ok ok
[14:56] <clusty> :D
[14:56] <JinRoh> Hello I need help
[14:56] <JinRoh> How do I know what "hd0,0" to use for widnows vista if it is in sda1?
[14:56] <gimme_snuggles> clusty: did u change that uid?
[14:56] <JinRoh> How do I know what "hd0,0" to use for widnows vista if it is in sda1? (IN GRUB)
[14:56] <clusty> yes
[14:56] <clusty> uid=0
[14:56] <gimme_snuggles> k
[14:57] <Bodsda> !enter > clusty , gimme_snuggles      please read pm from ubotu
[14:57] <clusty> sorry
[14:57] <a_l_a_n> Arghhh ... Changing all dapper to gutsy in the original sources causes the python-central/python-apt dependency cycle. God I wish Id installed Gentoo.
[14:57] <gilos> anyone recommend a good/easy to use/clientless snmp monitoring system that has a nice console to monitor utilization of many systems?  (free would be nice too)
[14:57] <Bodsda> clusty, ty
[14:58] <clusty> JinRoh, did not understand
[14:58] <JinRoh> clusty, I need to boot vista from grub
[14:58] <JinRoh> the entry for windows was removed... I need to add it manually
[14:58] <Bodsda> a_l_a_n, keep as dapper then?
[14:58] <JinRoh> Vista is in SDA1 what root        (hd0,0)?
[14:58] <clusty> JinRoh, http://www.pronetworks.org/forum/about78184.html#dualboot
[14:59] <clusty> you gotta use chainboot+1
[14:59] <golemz> Hi - After restarting, grub can't find my boot partition/kernel.  What livecd should I use to enable me to select which partition to boot off?
[14:59] <cinex> golemz: what distro do you run ?
[14:59] <golemz> gutsy
[15:00] <theDtTvB2> Hello, I am using Ubuntu on my laptop and I have enabled two finger scrolling. When I use it it is too fast. What should I do?
[15:00] <pingu> what plugin do i need to play a video from my digital camera
[15:00] <golemz> been running great for 2 weeks, then got a degraded raid5 (not the boot partition) so i rebooted to rebuild, and now error 15 at grub :\
[15:00] <pingu> the message is this "Totem could not play 'file:///media/disk/DCIM/101MSDCF/MOV00131.MPG'."
[15:00] <a_l_a_n> Bodsda: But thats not a solution is it? Will I not be using version d of software that is now on version g?
[15:00] <cinex> golemz: i know that you can replace the grub install with a debian install cd. there must be a way to do it from the ubuntu disk. have you googled?
[15:01] <prince_jammys> pingu: are you able to play other .mpg files?
[15:01] <pingu> prince_jammys: i dont know first time i have tried
[15:01] <clusty> pingu, you need gstreamer plugins if i am nmopt mistaking
[15:01] <Bodsda> a_l_a_n, your problem is strange,. im not sure what to suggest,.,.s it a clean install?
[15:02] <clusty> pingu, install all of them since I don't know exactly
[15:02] <golemz> i'm currently googling, i'll continue to do so
[15:02] <pingu> clusty: thanks ill try that
[15:02] <prince_jammys> pingu: go ahead and install ubuntu-restricted-extras too if you want, for other file formats (maybe including some mpg)
[15:03] <a_l_a_n> Bodsda: Brand spanking new. I am uninstalling OpenOffice using the original sources in the hope that it is related to the dep cycle when using the gutsy sources.
[15:03] <Bodsda> a_l_a_n, when you do a fresh install,. did you immediately do    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade      ??
[15:04] <luisen> somebody helpme????
[15:04] <Pici> !ask | luisen
[15:04] <ubotu> luisen: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[15:04] <a_l_a_n> Bodsda: NO, probably not immediately, but not too long afterwards.
[15:04] <Bodsda> !helpme > luisen         please read pm from ubotu
[15:05] <Bodsda> a_l_a_n, then i would think its a bad cd burn or bad install ,.,. not sire what else to suggest im afraid
[15:05] <luisen> i need change my ip
[15:05] <Bodsda> luisen, so change it
[15:06] <a_l_a_n> Bodsda: Okay. Well Ill keep at it. THanks for the suggestions.
[15:06] <luisen> i dont know doed
[15:06] <luisen> do*
[15:06] <Bodsda> a_l_a_n, sorry i couldnt help more,.,.
[15:06] <johnnybirdman> anyone able to hotplug a esata drive?
[15:06] <Faust-C> ubuntu doenst have a frostwire pkg
[15:06] <Bodsda> !find frostwire
[15:07] <clusty> Bodsda, you seem knowledgeable. any clue how to mount a thing such that only root has access to it?
[15:07] <ubotu> Package/file frostwire does not exist in gutsy
[15:07] <jeffMASTERflex> luisen: log into to your router and change the ip settings
[15:07] <prince_jammys> frostwire is no longer in apt, has to be downloaded from web
[15:07] <Bodsda> Faust-C, true
[15:07] <Odd-rationale> !frostwire
[15:07] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[15:07] <jeffMASTERflex> Faust-C: the frostwire website should have an ubuntu package on there
[15:08] <golemz> cinex: Managed to boot my install by simply booting off the livecd and choosing 'boot from first hdd' at the graphical menu ;p
[15:08] <Bodsda> clusty, fstab and set as owner root,.,.not sure how to do it though
[15:09] <Bodsda> golemz, good stuff!
[15:09] <cinex> golemz: that means your boot sector is fine.
[15:09] <jeffMASTERflex> clusty: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[15:09] <roddersg> can anyone give me a clue on how to adjust colours on the gnome desktop, somehow they don't look right
[15:09] <pawan> hi
[15:09] <Pici> !themes > roddersg (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[15:09] <clusty> jeffMASTERflex, read that. did not help
[15:09] <prince_jammys> clusty: typically this would look like (in fstab)::  /dev/blah   /mount/point    type(ext3,so on )        uid=0,gid=0,umask=700    0     0    <---only access to root
[15:09] <pawan> how to repair grub
[15:09] <Bodsda> roddersg, system-->preferences-->appearence
[15:10] <NiLoni> hi, I'm using gnome atm. but I would like to use KDE 4 instead (still keeping gnome if I someday need it). Is apt-get install kubuntu-desktop right way to do this and does that install KDE 4?
[15:10] <prince_jammys> clusty: umask 077 sorry
[15:10] <jeffMASTERflex> clusty: the documentation is on that page. i don't see what you are missing
[15:10] <roddersg> Bodsda, oops, guess didn't install that gnome applet
[15:10] <pawan> or reintstall grub
[15:10] <Faust-C> jeffMASTERflex, thx
[15:10] <Bodsda> NiLoni, correct
[15:10] <Pici> NiLoni: no, it won't install kde-4.  Join #kubuntu-kde4 for instructions on how to install it properly.
[15:10] <Bodsda> roddersg, its not an applet (tmk)
[15:11] <prince_jammys> clusty: typically this would look like (in fstab)::  /dev/blah   /mount/point    type(ext3,so on )        uid=0,gid=0,umask=007    0     0    <---only access to root, will work in ntfs, vfat, ext3 but don't know about yours
[15:11] <Bodsda> NiLoni, oops,.,.incorrect
[15:11] <pawan> !grub
[15:11] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[15:12] <clusty> gid=0,uid=0,umask=077 is what I have and resulting permissions are: -rwxrw-rw-
[15:12] <roddersg> Bodsda, did a minimum installation of the gnome so don't think I installed that
[15:12] <clusty> must be some cifs bull***
[15:12] <Pici> !language | clusty
[15:12] <ubotu> clusty: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[15:12] <Slap_Stick> hmm in cron if you have 1 * * * * will that run every 1 minute past the hour?
[15:12] <Bodsda> roddersg, ok
[15:12] <ubuntufreak> After installing the mstcorefonts the default monospace fonts have been replaced how do i revert back
[15:12] <roddersg> searching aptitude now
[15:12] <jeffMASTERflex> clusty: if your fstab entry is missing the 'user' option, you should only be able to mount it as root.
[15:13] <prince_jammys> clusty: seems to be ignoring your umask instructions, 077 should be rwx------
[15:13] <clusty> jeffMASTERflex, only root can mount. but all can read
[15:13] <Odd-rationale> What is a "lost+found" folder and what does it do? Thanks!
[15:13] <clusty> jeffMASTERflex, only root can mount. need to be only one to read/write
[15:13] <cinex> bazhang: they told me to ask in here about the hardware.
[15:13] <pawan> !pastebin
[15:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[15:14] <prince_jammys> clusty: file system type ???
[15:14] <clusty> prince_jammys, cifs. now trying smbfs
[15:14] <joshness> hi
[15:14] <Bodsda> pawan, if you are using ubotu for your own needs please do it in a different window
[15:14] <kanuha> need help sharing a folder under ubuntu and accessing it under vista
[15:14] <joshness> anyone know how to wipe out ubuntu using windows?
[15:14] <ubuntunut> I'd really like to give back to the community, but all I have is basic (very very basic) java understanding. I kinda doubt I'm knowledgable enough to do package management. Where should I fit in?
[15:15] <Bodsda> joshness, probably not the best place to ask
[15:15] <joshness> im going to reinstall
[15:15] <joshness> clean install... thats why..
[15:15] <pawan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56075/
[15:15] <Bodsda> ubuntunut, how-to's?
[15:15] <ubuntunut> joshness: If you're installing, you can wilpe the disk with a ubuntu disk.
[15:15] <joshness> how?
[15:15] <gimme_snuggles> prince_jammys: i believe its SMB
[15:15] <Bodsda> joshness, ask in ##windows
[15:15] <joshness> ok
[15:15] <gimme_snuggles> oops
[15:15] <ubuntunut> joshness: hold up
[15:15] <clusty> its some weird FS, thats the problem. smbfs gives read to all but write just to root
[15:15] <gimme_snuggles> sorry i was looking at old posts
[15:16] <joshness> k  :)
[15:16] <ubuntunut> joshness: Boot into a live session with a cd.
[15:16] <prince_jammys> gimme_snuggles: np
[15:16] <clusty> same options with cifs gives write to all
[15:16] <ubuntunut> joshness: Use "gparted"
[15:16] <pingu> prince_jammys: thanks but i had what i needed installed i just didn't have as the primary opening software
[15:16] <ubuntunut> joshness: You can wipe an entire disk like that.
[15:16] <ubuntunut> joshness: OR, during install procedure, you can chjose to use the entire disk
[15:16] <kanuha> need help sharing a folder under ubuntu and accessing it under vista
[15:16] <pawan> my grub
[15:16] <Bodsda> ubuntunut, not needed,.just use install --> and use entire disk
[15:16] <joshness> oh ok
[15:16] <prince_jammys> clusty: try google for an example, will probably have better luck than here "smbfs fstab"
[15:16] <joshness> ill try that
[15:16] <ubuntunut> Bodsda: 'Twas my second suggestion :)
[15:16] <sexxxym78> hy
[15:17] <Bodsda> ubuntunut, ye sorry,.,.didnt et there in time ;~)
[15:17] <KiD_ChAoS> why does my screen only go 1280 X 800, in windows it was capable of much bigger
[15:17] <pbne04> I had ubuntu installed and chose to install windows on a different partition on the hdd, but now windows has fucked up the mbr so I cannot boot in linux..what do I do?
[15:17] <Pici> !language | pbne04
[15:17] <ubotu> pbne04: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[15:17] <prince_jammys> prince_jammys: must have to do with fs cuz the above is correct --- also try allowing the group "root", eg umask=007
[15:17] <bazhang> language pbne04
[15:17] <ubuntunut> Bodsda: Heh. Now question: What do you mean by how-tos?
[15:17] <ubuntunut> Bodsda: It's kinda hard to pick a how to that hasn't been written yet. A BUTT ton of things have already been documented on ubuntu-forums
[15:17] <Bodsda> ubuntunut, write specific step-by-step documentation on how to do something
[15:18] <jeffMASTERflex> KiD_ChAoS: try installing your video card drivers, if necessary
[15:18] <clusty> thanks for help guys
[15:18] <Bodsda> ubuntunut, or how about art?
[15:18] <KiD_ChAoS> jeffMASTERflex: yeah the last time i tried that they got messed up
[15:18] <niptuck> hey.. where can I  get a ubuntu divx player?? thanks for the help..
[15:19] <Shinji-> !grub | pbne04
[15:19] <ubotu> pbne04: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[15:19] <ubuntunut> Bodsda: I know when I see something's ascetically pleasing. That's about as far as my art-savyness goes :)
[15:19] <gimme_snuggles> clutsy: did u get it?
[15:19] <jeffMASTERflex> KiD_ChAoS: use the restricted driver manager to take care of the install for you
[15:19] <gimme_snuggles> ive been messing around with fstab and a jump drive
[15:20] <jeffMASTERflex> niptuck: VLC media player should play almost any video/audio format you can throw at it
[15:20] <gimme_snuggles> /dev/sde1       /media/flash   vfat    uid=0,gid=0,umask=007        0 0 -------------> does give the correct permissions he was looking for
[15:20] <roddersg> niptuck, try vlc media player or mplayer, you don't need codcs with that
[15:20] <pawan> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mkdir /mnt/root
[15:20] <pawan> mkdir: cannot create directory `/mnt/root': Permission denied
[15:20] <gimme_snuggles> hmm
[15:20] <Bodsda> ubuntunut, give me feedback ,.,.lol,.,. http://s258.photobucket.com/albums/hh275/Bodsda/
[15:20] <Bodsda> niptuck, you can use windows version of divx through wine
[15:21] <prince_jammys> gimme_snuggles: yep, must have to do with fs --- some filesystem types have special options, and reject options such as umask
[15:21] <gimme_snuggles> pawan: u need to be root is whats it telling u, sudo mkdir /mnt/root
[15:21] <pawan> i am using livecd
[15:21] <ubuntufreak> Help needed to revert the fonts back to default in Ubuntu 7.10 after installing msttcore fonts
[15:21] <niptuck> jeffmasterflex: thanks...
[15:21] <pbne04> thanks
[15:21] <bazhang> niptuck the ubuntu-restricted-extras package and perhaps win32codecs from www.medibuntu.org
[15:22] <jessid> if some one is interested in what i asked: how can i divide a plain text file into words, i have solved this way, with an adition: it looks only for words with @ : awk '{ for (i=1; i<= NF; i++) { if ($i ~ /@/) print $i } }' mails1.tmp > mails2.tmp
[15:22] <Bodsda> ubuntufreak, remove mstcorefonts?
[15:22] <jeffMASTERflex> ubuntufreak: go to System/Preferences/Appearance and change the fonts
[15:22] <jessid> thanks
[15:22] <clusty> i'm the man
[15:22] <prince_jammys> gimme_snuggles: no, he was doing it in fstab
[15:22] <jessid> good bye!!!!
[15:22] <clusty> :D
[15:22] <clusty> got it
[15:22] <Shinji-> pbne04: np
[15:22] <ubuntufreak> Bodsda: Only the Monospace font seems affected
[15:22] <edju> fdisk -l  -- Partition table entries are not in disk order -- well, they certainly are not.  Is that dangerous, and can gparted fix it?
[15:22] <niptuck> thankyou for the help guys!!
[15:22] <clusty> gid=0,uid=0,fmask=700,dmask=700
[15:22] <Bodsda> ubuntufreak, see prince_jammys suggestion
[15:23] <ubuntunut> Bodsda: Hehe, psychadelic(h). :). I'm not a huge fan of lense flares as my background. That would look nice as a splash screen (the ubuntu ones). The tux ones are interesting, too :)
[15:23] <clusty> this is that kills all but root
[15:23] <clusty> :D
[15:23] <pawan> how to mount partition
[15:23] <prince_jammys> pawan: from live cd?
[15:23] <pawan> yes
[15:23] <Bodsda> ubuntunut, lad you like 'em :~),.,. so have you decided how to "ive back" ?
[15:23] <Bodsda> g
[15:23] <ubuntunut> pawan: sudo mount /dev/---- /media/----
[15:23] <ubuntufreak> Bodsda: whats that mean
[15:23] <prince_jammys> pawan i believe you have to chroot ---
[15:24] <Docfxit> I'd like to create a bootable floppy. When I use sudo gurb-install /dev/fd0 I get an error saying /dev/fd0 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive. How can I fix that.
[15:24] <prince_jammys> pawan from a live cd -- : check instructions online
[15:24] <ubuntunut> Bodsda: I'm still not sure. I can always clown around in the IRC room. But I dunno.'
[15:24] <prince_jammys> pawan you will find better step by step instructions online
[15:24] <Bodsda> ubuntufreak, oh my bad i meant jeffMASTERflex suggestion,.,.sorry
[15:24] <ubuntufreak> Bodsda: Ok ill follow it
[15:24] <Bodsda> ubuntunut, thats what i do,. im thinking of ding some more art, but im not really that interested in it,.,;~)
[15:25] <JinRoh> what's the "root (hd0,0) for a windows installation in /dev/sda1 ??
[15:25] <JinRoh> sd0,0 doesn't work
[15:25] <JinRoh> (GRUB)
[15:25] <ubuntunut> Bodsda: Hehe.
[15:25] <ubuntunut> Bodsda: When I gain a better understanding of networking stuff, then I think I'll really be able to contribute.
[15:25] <Bodsda> ubuntunut, im learning python,.,.can you programme?
[15:26] <Bodsda> ubuntunut, networkin is only 1 thing in a long line of problems people have on a daily bases
[15:26] <ubuntunut> Bodsda: I'm learning Java in a uni class right now for info sci. So I can *kinda* program
[15:26] <pawan> my ubuntu installation is in sdb3 7 8
[15:26] <nemilar> Why is libgmail so out-of-date in the repos? :(
[15:26] <jeffMASTERflex> ubuntunut: java is the devil
[15:26] <Bodsda> ubuntunut, why not write some java things,. like an ubuntu themed game or summit,.,.lol
[15:26] <jeffMASTERflex> ubuntunut: when you learn a language like python, you will hate java for ever and ever
[15:26] <nemilar> haha, jeffMASTERflex so true so true
[15:27] <ubuntunut> jeffMASTERflex: java is a resource hog, I know :)
[15:27] <Bodsda> jeffMASTERflex, python is the shizz
[15:27] <nemilar> Preach!
[15:27] <bazhang> !ot
[15:27] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[15:27] <Bodsda> ;~)
[15:27] <pawan> not getting the ubuntu menu on startup
[15:27] <Docfxit> I'd like to create a bootable floppy. When I use sudo gurb-install /dev/fd0 I get an error saying /dev/fd0 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive. How can I fix that.
[15:27] <Bodsda> bazhang, calm down ;~)
[15:27] <nemilar> pawan: it's missing from your panel?
[15:27] <bazhang> pawan how much ram
[15:28] <pawan> 512
[15:28] <JinRoh> what's the "root (hd0,0) for a windows installation in /dev/sda1 ?? sd0,0 doesn't work
[15:28] <prince_jammys> Docfxit does your BIOS detect the floppy?
[15:28] <nemilar> JinRoh: it depends entirely on your setup/partitioning
[15:28] <pawan> i have ubuntu installed
[15:28] <bazhang> JinRoh: windows? this is the #ubuntu channel
[15:28] <Docfxit> prince_jammys » yes
[15:28] <JinRoh> very funny
[15:28] <pawan> then i installed winxp and it after reboot no ubuntu menu
[15:28] <nemilar> bazhang: it's a linux question though ;)
[15:28] <JinRoh> nemilar, so how can I find out?
[15:29] <JinRoh> my windows is the only partition in the sata drive sda1
[15:29] <gimme_snuggles> JinRoh: what are u trying to find out??
[15:29] <bazhang> JinRoh: no joke--how does this relate to ubuntu--you dual booting?
[15:29] <nemilar> JinRoh: do you have two hard drives?
[15:29] <Bodsda> gimme_snuggles, he wants to know his (hd0,0) no.
[15:29] <JinRoh> yes
[15:29] <pawan> now
[15:29] <JinRoh> one sata with windows and one ide with ubuntu (im on ubuntu)
[15:29] <bazhang> JinRoh: windows borked your grub?
[15:29] <gimme_snuggles> JinRoh: sda1 is a partition on sda, sda being the hard drive
[15:30] <nemilar> JinRoh: it might be hd1,0 but usually sda will be hd0
[15:30] <BugeyeD> i had to append "break=top" to kernel params during install ... every time i upgrade the kernel, the grub menu.lst automatically includes that param and i have to manually remove it. where is this stored? i'd like to remove it ...
[15:30] <furythor> How I can configure wine so that others than me can use it ?
[15:30] <JinRoh> hd0,0?
[15:30] <JinRoh> so sd0,0 doesn't exist?
[15:31] <gimme_snuggles> JinRoh: i think its hd0, 1
[15:31] <Odd-rationale> furythor: You need to pay for codewaever's crossover, the comercial version of wine for that feature.
[15:31] <pawan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56075/
[15:31] <Docfxit> JinRoh » Your first hard drive first partition is (hd0,0) Second partition is (hd0,1) Third partiton is (hd0,2)
[15:31] <NiLoni> there was command to switch resolution but what was it? :)
[15:31] <nemilar> JinRoh: don't quote me on this, but I'm pretty sure it's always "hd" and never "sd" for that purpose
[15:31] <gimme_snuggles> JinRoh: if u have access to your boot.ini file in windoz u can see which it is for sure
[15:31] <ahorriblemess> does anyone use an HP laptop?
[15:32] <BugeyeD> ahorriblemess: i do
[15:32] <Fudzi> hello
[15:32] <bazhang> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg NiLoni
[15:32]  * Bodsda feels left out -- someone ask about sound problems ;~)
[15:32] <Fudzi> ppl
[15:32] <JinRoh> where is boot.ini gimme_snuggles ?
[15:32] <Fudzi> hi everyone
[15:32] <pawan> hello
[15:32] <ahorriblemess> BugeyeD: have you had a lot of problems with your sound card? Specifically headphone switch?
[15:32] <Bodsda> bazhang, i doubt thats the command he was after ;~)
[15:32] <prince_jammys> JinRoh: boot.ini is typically located at the root C:\\ in a windows box
[15:32] <ubuntunut> Bodsda: Why doesn't ubuntu emulate 5.1 sound like windows does?
[15:32] <BugeyeD> ahorriblemess: nope, been working fine
[15:32] <nemilar> Bodsda: Problem: sometimes my left speaker falls out and I have to play with the volume knob to get it back.  Question: can you send me new speakers?
[15:32] <JinRoh> i don't have any boot.ini
[15:32] <JinRoh> it's vista btw
[15:32] <ahorriblemess> BugeyeD: I've tried a couple of different methods to fix that problem, but it always seems to cut the sound card off completely.
[15:33] <furythor> so I can't do that from wine configuration ?
[15:33] <prince_jammys> JinRoh: are you in windows now?
[15:33] <JinRoh> no
[15:33] <Bodsda> nemilar, answer: send me £250 plus £50 p&p then yes
[15:33] <gimme_snuggles> use it
[15:33] <Odd-rationale> Bodsda: I have a sound problem ;) but it is kde related...
[15:33] <nemilar> Bodsda: haha, what is that in _real_ money ?
[15:33] <Bodsda> ubuntunut, because it doesnt want to be assosciated with windows
[15:33] <Bodsda> Odd-rationale, no probs,.ask away
[15:33] <JinRoh> well I'll try... something.
[15:33] <JinRoh> thanks
[15:33] <prince_jammys> JinRoh: don't know vista, but i just looked and it's in my C:\\
[15:33] <Shinji-> BugeyeD: add you options to "# defoptions=......" in menu.lst
[15:33] <Bodsda> nemilar, yes of course!
[15:33] <prince_jammys> jimRoh in winxp.
[15:34]  * Bodsda feels incorporated now -- thankyou
[15:34] <Fudzi> how to tell a directory .tar.gz who is in /home to put in /usr/src with unzipping the fike
[15:34] <prince_jammys> jimRoh    try         find /path/to/windows/partition  -name 'boot.ini'
[15:34] <nemilar> OT: it's funny that in England you say p&p (processing and postage?) while in the US we say s&h (shipping and handling)
[15:34] <cinex> Fudzi:  -C
[15:34] <Shinji-> add = remove
[15:34] <cinex> sudo tar -zxf mmm.tar.gz -C /usr/src
[15:34] <Fudzi> how ?
[15:34] <Bodsda> nemilar, actually p&p = post and packaging
[15:34] <nemilar> ahh.
[15:35] <Odd-rationale> Bodsda: Cna I PM you?
[15:35] <cinex> postage & packing
[15:35] <ubuntunut> Bodsda: when I attempt to play something in 5.1 sound (Like off a dvd), I get choppy sound and a "broken pipe" error in the console. Any idea what that's about?
[15:35] <Bodsda> Odd-rationale, yer, but hang on, have to change nick
[15:35] <capt-rogers> Why do some employers value Linux skills and others do not?
[15:35] <Bodsda> changing from Bodsda to bod_
[15:35] <gimme_snuggles> JinRoh:i just remembered, u can also access the boot.ini config with the MSCONFIG utility
[15:35] <cinex> capt-rogers: some employers use linux
[15:35] <nemilar> capt-rogers: well, if they're not running Linux, it's not much value...
[15:35] <jeffMASTERflex> capt-rogers: some employers use linux servers, while others do not
[15:35] <BugeyeD> Shinji-: hmmm ... does the existance of that cause newly created stanzas to show those same options? seems like that'd be used for default options when the options were not stated specifically.
[15:36] <Fudzi> cinex: exclent real geek
[15:36] <cinex> Fudzi: konqueror man:tar
[15:36] <bod_> ubuntunut, probably bad drivers -- alsa?
[15:36] <pawan> how to determine hda no
[15:36] <ubuntunut> capt-rogers: Some employers run on a unix based network, others run on a w indows based network
[15:36] <pawan> trying to remount
[15:36] <Fudzi> ok
[15:36] <Fudzi> merci
[15:37] <ubuntunut> bod_: alsa, yes. And they're the default ones installed during the OS install
[15:37] <Fudzi> thx
[15:37] <Fudzi> bye
[15:37] <Shinji-> BugeyeD, if you get a new kernel, grub will use those options for it
[15:37] <cdavis> What can I use to make a simple menu of possible remote desktop commands in X?
[15:37] <gimme_snuggles> cdavis: are u using kde or gnome?
[15:37] <bod_> ubuntunut, installed all gstreamer plugins/codecs?
[15:37] <cdavis> gimme_snuggles, gnome
[15:37] <djr> I recompiled my kernel using (make-kpkg) the generic .config. Now, while dpkg -i the kernel-image, I get "find: /lib/firmware/2.6.22.9nofreqscaling: No such file or directory". Why is that? And how do I build those modules "the ubuntu way"?
[15:37] <BugeyeD> Shinji-: all this time i've been looking for something stored elsewhere (like in /etc) that the grub updater was referencing. argh. thanks a bunch!
[15:37] <capt-rogers> Even companies that use Linux, some pay really well, and some are always 'better-dealing'..
[15:37] <gimme_snuggles> cdavis: you can write a simple shell script to do that for you
[15:38] <pawan> hello
[15:38] <djr> would a make modules && make install in the /usr/src/linux do the trick?
[15:38] <gimme_snuggles> !bash script
[15:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bash script - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:38] <gimme_snuggles> !script
[15:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about script - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:38] <gimme_snuggles> !.sh
[15:38] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[15:38] <Shinji-> BugeyeD: no problem
[15:38] <Pici> !msgthebot > gimme_snuggles (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[15:38] <ubuntunut> ubuntunut: Probably not. I'm not entirely sure. I did a cli install so it probably didn't come with them
[15:38] <ubuntunut> bod_: Probably not. I'm not entirely sure. I did a cli install so it probably didn't come with them
[15:38] <protonchris> Has anybody in here had any success editing wiki.ubuntu.com pages with editmoin
[15:38] <pawan> how to determine hda no
[15:39] <ubuntunut> bod_: anyway to check with the cli if I managed to install them or not?
[15:39] <Presario> hey do you guys have tips to sucessfully install ubuntu on my Compaq Presario Sr1150AP desktop?
[15:39] <bod_> ubuntunut, yer,. check synatic for anything with streamer in it,.and get the gnash plugin
[15:39] <cdavis> gimme_snuggles, I don't know what to even read about to find out how to make it interact with X
[15:39] <jeffMASTERflex> Presario: come here if you have any issues?
[15:40] <ubuntunut> bod_: From the cli, though? Sans synaptic?
[15:40] <bod_> ubuntunut, are you not using a gui?
[15:40] <pawan> hello
[15:40] <ubuntunut> bod_: Not when I can.
[15:40] <bod_> ugys you can disable system beeps with some sort of modprobe command -- what is it? how do i reanable it?
[15:40] <capt-rogers> 'The linux terminal or command line interface is very powerful' <<---lol...thats the definition right there of superfluous
[15:40] <orochi_> Does anyone know of a way that I could re-configure ALSA so that all sound output is at 48000hz? It seems to get rid of the choppy audio in some apps
[15:41] <orochi_> But not all of them have that option :>
[15:41] <bod_> ubuntunut, lol,.,.well just heck for the packages i mentioned
[15:41] <mjw-> bod_ rmmod pcspkr to disable it
[15:41] <prince_jammys> ubuntunut: you can view with "sudo aptitude" on it's own --- but DONT install anything from there if you normally use apt-get
[15:41] <ubuntunut> bod_: sudo rmmod pcspkr
[15:41] <bod_> ubuntunut, also follow orochi's question
[15:41] <mjw-> bod_ modprobe pcspkr to reenable it
[15:41] <ubuntunut> bod_: Throw that baby on a blacklist
[15:41] <pawan> how to repar or reinstall grub
[15:41] <crolle17> i created a new user by "sudo useradd -d /home/testuser -m testuser" and then "sudo passwd testuser" so far so good. but when i want to account i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56077/
[15:42] <Presario> jeffMASTERflex, what do you mean by that?
[15:42] <ubuntunut> prince_jammys: I'm an aptitude kinda guy.
[15:42] <bod_> ubuntunut, ive done it,. helpin a kde guy,.,. mjw- cheers
[15:42] <prince_jammys> ubuntunut: once you are in aptitude, press /  to search for the package name and "n" to see the next match if there's more than one
[15:42] <gimme_snuggles> cdavis: still there?
[15:42] <ubuntunut> prince_jammys: Good to know.
[15:43] <jeffMASTERflex> Presario: there aren't really many tips. The install uses a Live CD which allows you to test before you install. If you have any problems after install, people in this channel can help you out
[15:43] <prince_jammys> ubuntunut: it's what i use
[15:43] <Presario> can anyone here help me install ubuntu in my presario?
[15:43] <Presario> okey
[15:43] <emosamurai> I have a question. Why is the update server currently made of fail? I'm dling at <2000 bytes/second
[15:43] <Kaso> Hi, Is it possible to make my ubuntu box broadcast a different hostname for each network interface, the DHCP server wont give me two IPs because the hostname is the same on both interfaces
[15:43] <cdavis> gimme_snuggles, ya, private chat window?
[15:43] <ubuntunut> Presario: What exactly would you need help with?
[15:43] <vix> is it possible to change the sound driver java uses? cause I wanna make sure it uses alsa so i can play sound from other sources also
[15:44] <bazhang> emosamurai: server issue likely try again later
[15:44] <Neronious> Presario: the ubuntu forums might be a good place to check for that sort of question
[15:44] <emosamurai> bazhang: it's been like that for the whole week.
[15:44] <emosamurai> oh, well.
[15:44] <Jordan> how do i restart gdm after i configure Xserver?
[15:44] <bazhang> emosamurai: which mirror
[15:44] <crolle17> i created a new user by "sudo useradd -d /home/testuser -m testuser" and then "sudo passwd testuser" so far so good. but when i want to account i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56077/
[15:44] <cdavis> gimme_snuggles, yes I see it and an responding, can you not see my responses?
[15:44] <emosamurai> bazhang: I'm just using the update star
[15:44] <jeffMASTERflex> Jordan: control alt backspace
[15:44] <pawan> hi
[15:44] <Jordan> k. thanks
[15:45] <prince_jammys> Jordan: if you want to back to the login prompt, Ctrl Alt Backspace
[15:45] <Presario> i used all of the live cd for every versions of ubuntu... but to no avail, i cant seem to boot ubuntu on my presario. Thus, not allowing me to even see a single thing of ubuntu on my presario. I recently installed ubuntu on my NEC laptop... so, you could say that I have experienced the installation before
[15:45] <bazhang> emosamurai: some undersea cables were cut and most of asia and the middle east were affected, thus my question about which mirror
[15:45] <emosamurai> bazhang: I see. no clue. I'm just clicking the star.
[15:45] <Jordan> alright. i'll try it
[15:45] <bazhang> Presario: try the alternate cd then
[15:46] <Presario> alternate CD meaning the DVD version?
[15:46] <bod_> no
[15:46] <bod_> the text based
[15:46] <cdavis> gimme_snuggles, I want to have a list of commands, ie 'rdesktop 192.168.1.10 -g 1024x768 -u cdavis' I want that list to be opened by a shortcut keystroke so I can either scroll up and down or enter a number to openn an rdesktop session
[15:46] <Presario> then
[15:46] <Presario> ouh okey yah got it
[15:46] <bazhang> Presario: no the alternate cd is ncurses based and does it when the livecd will not
[15:47] <Gustavio> Is there a way to reuse packages downloaded with Synaptic? I mean, I want to take packages already downloaded to another machine avoiding have to re-download them.
[15:47] <bazhang> emosamurai: next time try sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade see if that makes a difference
[15:47] <hfmls_> guys i need something for not go back to windows :) please tell me ubuntu supports hdmi.
[15:47] <emosamurai> bazhang: okay.
[15:47] <bazhang> Gustavio: aptoncd
[15:47] <emosamurai> thanks
[15:47] <prince_jammys> Gustavio: one possibility is aptoncd
[15:47] <Presario> but i prefer using a graphical interface cause I totally have no knowledge of bash
[15:47] <eck090> Morning,
[15:47] <cinex> Presario: you have a presario laptop? which model? the v6500 ?
[15:47] <bod_> hfmls, ok -- it supports hdmi
[15:47] <Daenyth|Work> Does ubuntu have the ntfs-3g driver by default, or do I have to install it
[15:47] <bod_> Daenyth|Work, you have to install it
[15:48] <Daenyth|Work> or should I just make the windows partition FAT32
[15:48] <Daenyth|Work> alright
[15:48] <Gustavio> [bazhang] thanks
[15:48] <Gustavio> [prince_jammys] thanks
[15:48] <eck090> I have a usb headset and a soundcard(built into my MB) is there anyway i can bypass my soundcard and make my headset my default
[15:48] <hfmls_> bod_ ok , i have intel onboard vga, with hdmi output, how do i use it?
[15:48] <Daenyth|Work> apt-get install ntfs-3g?
[15:48] <bazhang> Presario: it is ncurses based so you tab and enter the choices--there is text so not really cli
[15:48] <moos3> anyone have issues with setting up slapd
[15:48] <prince_jammys> Daenyth|Work: yes
[15:48] <bazhang> np
[15:48] <mjw-> Gustavio the deb files downloaded by synaptic are in /var/cache/apt/archives too
[15:48] <Daenyth|Work> thanks
[15:48] <eck090> because my ALSA is picking up my sound card instead of my USB Headset
[15:48] <bod_> hfmls, no idea m8,.i was just saying what you wanted to hear ;~)
[15:48] <esox> h, since an update I got the following problem : the capslock led dont work anymore and the keyboard shortcut no more work on puredata... Its on a laptop, french keyboard, with gutsy
[15:49] <pawan> grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
[15:49] <pawan>  (hd1,6)
[15:49] <hfmls> lol
[15:49] <solar_george> !hdmi
[15:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hdmi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:49] <hfmls> man! can anyone pls tell me? how can i use hdmi?
[15:49] <mad_max02> Anyone here has a fully working Logitech G5 mouse ??? One with only back button on thumb ???
[15:49] <ThirteenYearOld> I'mma do an update restart, brb
[15:49] <bod_> eck090, you want to use the usb as a sound card?
[15:49] <bazhang> hfmls: you might want to check the ubuntuforums for that
[15:49] <Gustavio> [mjw-] I really wanted to discover where they were "hidden". Thanks.
[15:49] <hfmls> allready did, i only find hdmi to dvi....hdmi to dvi..
[15:49] <eck090> yes
[15:49] <Presario> nah... not the common ones that you all discuss about. did my own research and none of them are in the same boat as me. mine is a desktop SR1150AP. it does have problems loading linux live CDs, have not tried installing any before, i used nolapic and acpi=off and they all worked and helped the boot but for ubuntu, it was not helping
[15:50] <bod_> mad_max02, check tutorials of the week on ubuntu forums -- theres a how-to there
[15:50] <eck090> since my headset is plugged into USB
[15:50] <bod_> eck090, ok,.,.in a terminal type     asoundconf list     tell me the output
[15:50] <mad_max02> hm I already did and I cant find the correct post
[15:50] <mad_max02> I'll check again
[15:51] <infidel> how do i remotely execute a command with ssh? what i mean remotely is i'm logged into me son's pc and i want to execute commands on his pc
[15:51] <eck090> asoundconf list
[15:51] <eck090> Names of available sound cards:
[15:51] <eck090> V8237
[15:51] <eck090> Headset
[15:51] <pawan> grub> setup (hd1,6)
[15:51] <pawan>  Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... yes
[15:51] <pawan>  Checking if "/boot/grub/stage2" exists... yes
[15:51] <pawan>  Checking if "/boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5" exists... yes
[15:51] <pawan>  Running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd1,6)"... failed (this is not fatal)
[15:51] <pawan>  Running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd1,6)"... failed (this is not fatal)
[15:51] <FloodBot1> pawan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:51] <Stevethepirate> just type in console.
[15:51] <crolle17> i created a new user by "sudo useradd -d /home/testuser -m testuser" and then "sudo passwd testuser" so far so good. but when i want to account i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56077/
[15:51] <bod_> mad_max02, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=455656
[15:52] <bod_> eck090, now type    asoundconf set-default Headset
[15:52] <Presario> anybody still looking over my issue? heh
[15:52] <gimme_snuggles> cdavis: did u get those pms?
[15:53] <infidel> Presario, what's your issue?
[15:53] <jeffMASTERflex> luckybamboo: why didn't you use the users-admin module built into ubuntu?
[15:53] <Presario> my issue is problems getting ubuntu live Cd to run on my presario
[15:54] <mad_max02> bod_, dude thanks for the link. Thats a solution using btnx. Is there maybe a solution using only xorg.conf ?!?
[15:54] <Kaso> Hi, is it possible to bind a different hostname to each network interface i have, the DHCP server on the home router i have wont assign me two IPs because both have the same Hostname.
[15:54] <ubuntuisloved> is it possible to upgrade winehq since the version in repo's is one ver behind?
[15:54] <bod_> mad_max02, yes,.gimme a sec
[15:54] <bazhang> Presario: and we suggested the alternate cd
[15:54] <mad_max02> bod_, thanks for the help
[15:54] <infidel> Presario, what does it do?
[15:54] <eck090> bod_ i sent you the result in a private convo
[15:54] <bod_> ubuntuisloved, check the winehq website
[15:54] <mad_max02> btnx is a good thing but I like xorg.conf settings :D
[15:54] <jeffMASTERflex> Presario: most problems with the LiveCD are eliminated by installing with the alternate disc
[15:55]  * cinex has ubuntu on his presario
[15:55] <dgjones> Presario, if the live cd doesn't work, its always a good idea to try the alternate, that works even when the livecd fails, i've had to do that with toshiba laptops
[15:55] <bod_> eck090, i didnt et it,. are you registered?
[15:55] <Presario> yeah i'll try it, bazhang, but how do i get to this "alternate Cd" thing?
[15:55] <mad_max02> ubuntuisloved, you can update easy. are you on 64bit system ?
[15:55] <eck090> no im not
[15:55] <dgjones> !alternate | Presario
[15:55] <ubotu> Presario: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode installation CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD.  It can also be used as an upgrade CD. - See also !minimal
[15:55] <dgjones> i thought that had the link as well
[15:55] <sean_> im using devede, http://i29.tinypic.com/2mphc1k.png , does anyone one know why only one cpu is in use???
[15:56] <eck090> try convoing me
[15:56] <eck090> that might owrk
[15:56] <bazhang> Presario: www.ubuntu.com
[15:56] <jeffMASTERflex> Presario: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download  there is a tick box right under the download button to select the alternate install disc
[15:56] <bod_> !register | eck090
[15:56] <ubotu> eck090: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[15:57] <Presario> okey thanks, i will check it out...
[15:58] <bod_> mad_max02, think i finally found it ,.,.lol,.,. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3828&highlight=mouse
[15:59] <ubuntuisloved> no 32bit
[15:59] <bod_> eck090, just tell me the result in here
[15:59] <jager> help!
[16:00] <Presario> thanks for the help guys, apreciate it
[16:00] <jager> can anyone help me?
[16:00] <Veeger1> Fresh last night worked fine, after update, no video.  restricted drives enabled, nothing from outside repos and no scripts used to install anything.  Where do I start
[16:00] <burkmat> jager, what's the problem?
[16:00] <prince_jammys> !anyone | jager
[16:00] <mad_max02> bod_, I saw this topic too.
[16:00] <jager> question
[16:00] <ubotu> jager: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[16:00] <jager> it says: What file system object has an inode # of 214780, identify the absoulte reference to this file system object, and the complete single command used to identify it.
[16:00] <mad_max02> bod_,  I'll try to get something from them both
[16:00] <Presario> I'll take car of it from here onwards... if anything is puzzling me again, ill ask for help
[16:00] <Presario> haha
[16:00] <bod_> mad_max02, ok
[16:00] <ubuntuisloved> mad_max02: no im on 32bit version
[16:00] <user11_011>  version `GLIBC_2.4' not found  ? what should i install for this error?
[16:00] <cinex> 4
[16:00] <Veeger1> Make that fresh install last night worked fine
[16:00] <mad_max02> bod_, I managed to get tilt working by just editing xorg.conf
[16:01] <mad_max02> bod_, only thumb button doesnt work
[16:01] <mad_max02> thanks for the links
[16:01] <mad_max02> if I get it to work I'll surely post it at forums
[16:01] <jager> got any clue?
[16:01] <mad_max02> ubuntuisloved, then u can update easily
[16:01] <_juki_> hi, i am using fluxbuntu (fluxbox) , in other linuxs when i plug usb stick in it appears in decktop, could u tell me where i find my usb stick in fluxbuntu?
[16:01] <user11_011>  version `GLIBC_2.4' not found  ? what should i install for this error?
[16:01] <mad_max02> just download the package and config, make and make install
[16:02] <bod_> brb
[16:02] <jager> it says: What file system object has an inode # of 214780, identify the absoulte reference to this file system object, and the complete single command used to identify it.
[16:02] <burkmat> jager, I probably can't help you but abit of info on what you're trying to do when you get that error might be useful... What's "it"?
[16:02] <mad_max02> user11_011, dude just read and try to find it in synaptics
[16:02] <prince_jammys> !repeat | jager
[16:02] <ubotu> jager: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[16:02] <ubuntuisloved> mad_max02: should i just compile it or how do you recommend to update?
[16:02] <user11_011> mad_max02: i am on dapper server version!!!
[16:02] <prince_jammys> jager: "it says" <-- what is "it" ? what are you doing?
[16:02] <WorldBFree> can somebody point me to the link where to boot ubuntu iso from the hd?
[16:03] <jager> the question says: What file system object has an inode # of 214780, identify the absoulte reference to this file system object, and the complete single command used to identify it.
[16:03] <Pici> jager: stop repeating.
[16:03] <jager> then answer me
[16:03] <luckybamboo> jeffMASTERflex, i thought useradd also works?
[16:03] <jager> bitouch
[16:04] <bazhang> bye jager
[16:04] <ubuntuisloved> mad_max02: should i just compile it or how do you recommend to update?
[16:04] <bod_> haha
[16:04] <mad_max02> ubuntuisloved, how did you install it ?
[16:04] <mad_max02> repos or manual or svn ?
[16:04] <ubuntuisloved> mad_max02: repos sudo apt-get install
[16:05] <mad_max02> you gotta do it manually or wait for updated repos package
[16:05] <eck090> is there a way i can change my soundcard from ALSA to OSS?
[16:05] <mad_max02> just to make sure backup ur .wine
[16:05] <ubuntuisloved> K thanks
[16:06] <LukeLM> !OSS
[16:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oss - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:06] <mad_max02> eck090, system-> Preferences-> Multimedia Systems Selector
[16:06] <bazhang> WorldBFree: you mean from a windows install?
[16:07] <gimme_snuggles> cdavis: are you still there?
[16:07] <WorldBFree> bazhang, no i mean put the image on my hd, turn on my pc and have it boot from there
[16:07] <eck090> there is no multimedia systems selector
[16:07] <WorldBFree> bazhang, i already have a working grub
[16:07] <bazhang> WorldBFree: from what system though
[16:08] <WorldBFree> it wouldnt matter what system, its just a matter of making the right entries into menu.lst in grub
[16:08] <luckybamboo> jeffMASTERflex, and btw. using the system-->users&groups for creating a user returns the same error-message when the user tries to account
[16:08] <WorldBFree> ive done it many times before with other distros, but each one has specific instructions
[16:08] <bazhang> WorldBFree: never heard of that--where did you read of this?
[16:08] <bazhang> WorldBFree: only one I know that does this is Arch Linux
[16:09] <mad_max02> eck090, edit menus. I'll find it
[16:09] <mad_max02> you'll find it
[16:09] <bazhang> WorldBFree: unless you mean a pendrive/usb key
[16:09] <eck090> <---- noob how do i edit menu
[16:09] <natbet> would it be a bad idea to install kubuntu and ubuntu and share the /home partition?
[16:09] <WorldBFree> bazhang, its not something ive read, its something ive done, but ive done with kanotix, sidux, debian, puppy
[16:10] <eck090> nevermind :P
[16:10] <natbet> I know between different types of distros it can be a problem
[16:10] <WorldBFree> but that doesnt matter what distro because its straight from the grub
[16:10] <prince_jammys> natbet: no, it's ok
[16:10] <WorldBFree> all you have to do is have the image on your hd somewhere, and tell grub the right instructions
[16:10] <prince_jammys> natbet: i do it
[16:10] <gimme_snuggles> haha i took the time to write cdavis a little bash script with a menu and everything and now hes not even here!
[16:10] <Veeger1> Fresh install last night worked fine, but after update, no video.  restricted drives enabled for nvidia 6600, nothing from outside repos and no scripts used to install anything.  Where do I start
[16:10] <bazhang> WorldBFree: then do what you did with those--not possible with ubuntu as far as I am aware--please do a write up on ubuntuforums as well
[16:10] <natbet> prince_jammys: there aren't any problems with configuration files or anything like that?
[16:11] <eck090> it says my device is unsupported under OSS
[16:11] <prince_jammys> natbet: no
[16:11] <cdavis> gimme_snuggles, Thanks much, I will play with this and let you know
[16:11] <eck090> and under ALSA it doesnt show my headset
[16:11] <eck090> (usb)
[16:11] <natbet> ok, thanks prince_jammys
[16:11] <gimme_snuggles> cdavis: np man
[16:12] <prince_jammys> natbet: each program uses its own and they don't clash ... when you first install your menus will have apps from both, but you can edit the menus and have separate ones in KDE and gnome ... there are no other issues
[16:12] <FD_F> can i detect my 8800GT card on vmware ?  (the ubuntu is the guest)
[16:13] <natbet> cool, thanks prince_jammys
[16:13] <eck090> i have aoss
[16:13] <eck090> but not sure that will help
[16:13] <Itaku> !java
[16:13] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[16:14] <kadakas> How can I attach an External monitor to my Ubuntu 7.10 laptop?
[16:14] <eck090> anybody else have any ideas?
[16:14] <adamb> So I have a 32bit machine laying around and need to run a few virtual private servers on it, should I go with xen?
[16:15] <bazhang> kadakas: have you tried yet? is this the dvi or other
[16:15] <cdavis> gimme_snuggles, termservice: 20: Syntax error: "}" unexpected
[16:15] <natbet> kadakas: plug the monitor into the video port on the laptop :P Then press fn+f8 or whatever key combo it is to switch to the external monitor
[16:15] <luckybamboo> jeffMASTERflex, no idea?
[16:16] <prince_jammys> cdavis: what command did you type?
[16:16] <kadakas> bazhang: its the old connection
[16:16] <natbet> kadakas: if you want both monitors working at the same time for one huge desktop you will more than likely have to mess with the xorg.conf
[16:16] <kadakas> id just like to watch a movie on my big screen monitor
[16:16] <cdavis> prince_jammys, sh termservice
[16:16] <kadakas> i pressed the fn+F8 combo
[16:16] <furythor> What rights wine needs to folders where windows software is installed ?
[16:16] <jeffMASTERflex> luckybamboo: sorry I was busy in another channel. sorry, I have no clue what the issue could be. I don't have that problem locally
[16:17] <bazhang> kadakas: I did this successfully; have you tried yet?
[16:17] <natbet> kadakas: what kind of video out does your laptop have?
[16:17] <kadakas> the picture now appears in my monitor, but i cannot turn it back into laptop mode - but the laptop screen is flashing green and red
[16:17] <kadakas> the picture on the monitor works, just the wrong resolution
[16:17] <bazhang> kadakas: check the cable
[16:17] <furythor> Kadakas, then your laptop screen settings are jinxed...
[16:18] <eck090> let me tell yo guys..... switching from windows to linux is a huge step
[16:18] <hend> Hi, I can't get any TTY consoles. I am running 7.10 (32bit) and have a ATI radeon 2600 gfxcard (running gflrx). When I try get to a console from X using ctrl+alt+F* all I get is a blank screen. After this I can't even get back into X, so I have to do a hard reset to get it to work again. This is a known bug, but all the workarounds I found (fbcon, radeonfb) don't seem to work for me. Anyone know what I can try?
[16:18] <bazhang> eck090: haha not really
[16:18] <natbet> kadakas: go to the menu > system > preferences > screen resolution
[16:18] <furythor> eck090 I agree with you
[16:18] <natbet> kadakas: see if you can change the resolution there
[16:18] <furythor> What rights wine needs to folders where windows software is installed ?
[16:18] <bazhang> eck090: mac to linux is a bigger one ;]
[16:19] <furythor> read, write and excecute ?
[16:19] <s0u][ight> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 can someone tell me wich section is for me in the firmware section?
[16:19] <cdavis> gimme_snuggles, I get syntax error from direct download
[16:19] <kanuha> need help sharing a folder under ubuntu and accessing it under vista
[16:20] <prince_jammys> furythor: drwxr-xr-x  8 tantalus tantalus 4096 2008-02-06 04:47 Program Files
[16:20] <furythor> all rights, then ?
[16:20] <natbet> kanuha: go to the menu > system > Administration > shared folders
[16:20] <amenado> kadaka you will find that the resolution on your big screen is rather much different than your laptop video rez. -- you can only get as close to the native tv monitor unless the tvmonitor is capable of decoding your video card rez....just my experience
[16:20] <cdavis> gimme_snuggles, looks like I can't sh command, I have to chmod +x and run ./command
[16:20] <eck090> really? mac to linux is worse?
[16:20] <s0u][ight> what is the current kernet version of ubuntu 7.10?
[16:20] <eck090> dont they both run off the unix core?
[16:21] <prince_jammys> furythor: no, only read write execute for owner,   read execute for others
[16:21] <natbet> kanuha: it will ask you if you want to install smb or nfs, install smb only and then you can add the folder you want to share. You should be able to access it on your vista box now.
[16:21] <kanuha> natbet, ok I am there
[16:21] <luckybamboo> i added a user-account, but when i try to access by this user i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56077/
[16:21] <prince_jammys> furythor: are you getting a permissions error?
[16:21] <jeffMASTERflex> eck090: mac users would be mortified to have to touch a terminal...
[16:21] <eck090> lol
[16:21] <mjw-> s0u][ight 2.6.22-14
[16:21] <eck090> does anyone use ventrilo?
[16:21] <kanuha> natbet, I had already added smb and NFS, do I need to remove nfs?
[16:21] <natbet> eck090: I do, but it isn't ported to linux yet
[16:22] <eck090> i cant figure out how to get my damn USB headset to read as oss
[16:22] <furythor> no, I am thinking if I could bypass my problem (I got over huge home folder with wine there (like over 20gt)
[16:22] <eck090> im using the windows version emu thru wine
[16:22] <s0u][ight> 	
[16:22] <s0u][ight> Bleeding edge, i.e. compat-wireless-2.6 package, linus-2.6 or wireless-2.6 trees
[16:22] <natbet> kanuha: no, it's just extra package, no problem
[16:22] <s0u][ight>  so it is something like that?
[16:22] <meoblast001> hello..... im setting a computer up with a D-Link Rangebooster WUA-2340... i set it up with ndiswrapper yesterday and it worked.... now today, it doesnt work... ndiswrapper claims the driver is installed and the device is present, how do i fix this?
[16:22] <furythor> so I thought that maybe I could get wine to work from /usr/local/wine/x_drive etc...
[16:22] <furythor> so I install all software to /usr/local/wine
[16:22] <eck090> anyone have an idea?
[16:23] <gimme_snuggles> meoblast001: ifconfig
[16:23] <prince_jammys> furythor: yeah you should be able to do that
[16:23] <gimme_snuggles> meoblast001: iwconfig
[16:23] <natbet> kanuha: in here you should be able to add the folder you want to share, then it should be viewable from the vista box, You might have to restart to make it work.
[16:23] <mjw-> s0u][ight bleeding edge stuff will be in hardy heron
[16:23] <meoblast001> gimme_snuggles: thanx, is that all i have to do?
[16:23] <kanuha> natbet, ok, I can see the computer name on vista, but it asks for a username and passwork
[16:23] <furythor> but relevant question is that what rights I need to that wine folder ?
[16:23] <Tyczek> Does this command work for your fgrlx? sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv It doesn't work for me... Movie on XV still looks bad...
[16:23] <furythor> read,write and execute ?
[16:23] <gimme_snuggles> meoblast001: do you see ure wifi adapter in those command outputs?
[16:24] <luckybamboo> please give me a hint.
[16:24] <meoblast001> gimme_snuggles: i dont think
[16:24] <gimme_snuggles> one second
[16:24] <meoblast001> gimme_snuggles: no
[16:24] <natbet> kanuha: try using your username/pw for the linux box.
[16:24] <eck090> natbet : do you know how i can get my usb headset to work with vent? it only picks up "default directsound devicer"
[16:24] <amenado> meoblast001-> does your pc gets an ip address? check with ifconfig, and if it has associated via  iwconfig command
[16:24] <prince_jammys> furythor: drwxr-xr-x 6 tantalus tantalus   4096 2008-02-09 01:15 drive_c    ( owner: read write execute, group: read execute, others: read execute)
[16:24] <furythor> ok.
[16:24] <gimme_snuggles> meoblast001: type ifconfig and iwconfig and paste the outputs http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ THERE
[16:25] <natbet> eck090: sorry, I have never tried using a USB headset in linux. Does audio work through the headset now?
[16:25] <kanuha> natbet, didn't work, says logon unsuccessful
[16:25] <eck090> yes
[16:25] <gimme_snuggles> meoblast001: and send us the url afterwards and we can look at the output ok?
[16:25] <prince_jammys> furythor: it's the owner that's important -- don't mess with the permissions, change the owner if it becomes "root"
[16:25] <meoblast001> gimme_snuggles: im obviously trying to get this computer online,k going to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org won't really work
[16:25] <Kaso> Hi, Im trying to configure my linux box to use a different hostname for each network interface so as to not confuse the DHCP server, at the moment it refuses give me two IPs because the hostname matches
[16:25] <eck090> natbet: its using alsa atm i think
[16:26] <jernster> kaso: associate each ip with a specific hostname in /etc/hosts
[16:26] <jernster> you can only set one hostname on the box itself
[16:26] <rinaldi_> anyone play counter strike source in wine? it crashes on me when it connects to a server, when it tries to render anything...
[16:26] <prince_jammys> furythor: and if you want to give every user write access to the "c" drive, then yes read write execute for everyone
[16:26] <gimme_snuggles> meoblast001: oops my bad, i been up since yesterday :P. makes sense. ok u to tell me what those outputs are so i can help
[16:26] <slag> Anyone know why xmms wont play mp3's off of a mounted 2nd disk? It will load them but simply wont play em.
[16:26] <prince_jammys> furythor: back it up first
[16:27] <iter> wow prince_jammys do you ever sleep
[16:27] <meoblast001> gimme_snuggles: the loopback interface has an ip
[16:27] <natbet> kanuha: I'm not sure on the username/pw there, let me see what I can dig up.
[16:27] <furythor> wine configuration ?
[16:27] <prince_jammys> iter: :)
[16:27] <gimme_snuggles> meoblast001: is that all u see? what if u do 'ifconfig -a'
[16:27] <meoblast001> gimme_snuggles: from the tutorial i read, i remember it making a new section
[16:27] <gimme_snuggles> meoblast001: yes it will
[16:28] <meoblast001> gimme_snuggles: same
[16:28] <kanuha> natbet, ty
[16:28] <meoblast001> gimme_snuggles: my sister will kill me or break her computer if she has to reconfigure this card everytime she uses the computer
[16:28] <cdavis> gimme_snuggles, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56091/
[16:28] <amenado> meoblast001-> you have access to the internet now, I think you can sacrifice a lil bit copying things over..or is that way too hard for you to paste?
[16:28] <noelferreira> what remote conection server should i use? vino or vnc?
[16:28] <gimme_snuggles> meoblast001: ok if u only see the loopback device that means that u probably just dont have the module loaded
[16:29] <meoblast001> gimme_snuggles: how do you load the module, it worked yesterday
[16:29] <gimme_snuggles> meoblast001: i believe when u use ndiswrapper u have to have the load the ndiswrapper module into ure system for the adapter to become active
[16:30] <prince_jammys> cdavis: what's giving you that error? termservice? is termservice a script you wrote?
[16:30] <bostik> hi all
[16:30] <pawan> hi
[16:30] <meoblast001> gimme_snuggles: well, it worked yesterday so shouldnt it be loaded?
[16:30] <Creationist> How would I go about preventing other users from using my printer?
[16:30] <bostik> anybody knows how to enable map_static in nfsd ???
[16:30] <pawan> how to repair grub
[16:31] <prince_jammys> !grub | pawan
[16:31] <gimme_snuggles> meoblast001: did u reboot or log out or anything?
[16:31] <ubotu> pawan: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[16:31] <meoblast001> gimme_snuggles: oops.... i forgot to finish the tutorial so it wouldnt do this
[16:31] <iter> pawan you keep asking that same question for hours?
[16:31] <pawan> getting grub menu but when i select ubuntu says no such partition
[16:32] <iter> so you can boot to grub but can't start ubuntu ?
[16:32] <amenado> pawan are you booted on a linux now?
[16:32] <noelferreira> what remote conection server should i use? vino or vnc? i need to have the image adjusted to the client. anyone?
[16:32] <cdavis> prince_jammys, I ran it a different way and it worked
[16:32] <noelferreira> what remote conection server should i use? vino or vnc? i need to have the image adjusted to the client pc resolution. anyone?
[16:32] <stjepang> anyone here tried latesest 8.2 driver?
[16:32] <prince_jammys> cdavis: you were using sh --- did you just use bash ((chmod 755 ---- ./script)))?
[16:32] <pawan> on win2003 server
[16:32] <dedi> whats the best way to compare 2 folders ?
[16:32] <roddersg> what command would I use to sort a file based on a column position e.g. position=35, sort doesn't work
[16:32] <stjepang> I mean, fglrx ati driver
[16:33] <dedi> stjepang: runs fine for me
[16:33] <stjepang> dedi: have you tried compiz?
[16:33] <amenado> pawan what? you want to use grub on a win2003 server?
[16:33] <iter> noelferreira: preferences--> remote desktop, then I use ultravnc client to access the ubuntu desktop
[16:33] <natbet> kanuha: do sudo smbpasswd -a *your username* and set a password when asked. then use that info to access the shared folder.
[16:33] <dedi> stjepang: works fine :)
[16:33] <gimme_snuggles> meoblast001: u see, it most likely loaded the module temp, u have to add it to the module list so it will load automatically
[16:33] <pawan> currently running win2003 server
[16:33] <stjepang> dedi: and scrolling in firefox...?
[16:33] <pawan> i have three os in my system
[16:33] <meoblast001> k
[16:33] <amenado> !who | pawan
[16:33] <ubotu> pawan: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[16:33] <LimCore> I found a software in ubuntu
[16:33] <pawan> winxp win2003 sever and ubutu
[16:33] <dedi> stjepang: just like before, no problems
[16:33] <LimCore> which is a big pile of smoking shit
[16:34] <Tiven> i see 4 workspaces available , but when i click on them , nothing happens. Compiz's 3d cube is activated but not working as well
[16:34] <Pici> !language | LimCore
[16:34] <ubotu> LimCore: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[16:34] <noelferreira> thanks iter. where can i find ultravnc packages?
[16:34] <LimCore> where can I report it, so that someone will actually fix it?
[16:34] <dedi> !compare
[16:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compare - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:34] <Pici> !bugs | LimCore try here
[16:34] <ubotu> LimCore try here: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[16:34] <LimCore> Pici: already did
[16:34] <stjepang> dedi: really? I'm not using compiz anymore only because of that stupid fglrx driver... tooooo slow scrolling :(
[16:34] <patogen> How do I create an iso file from a folder?
[16:34] <Pici> LimCore: If you already filed a bug, then you've already reported it.
[16:34] <iter> noelferreira: www.uvnc.com
[16:34] <amenado> patogen-> man mkisofs
[16:34] <prince_jammys> LimCore: what it the prog, by the way
[16:34] <LimCore> patogen: perhaps use k3b and then there probably is option to write to file instead cd
[16:34] <noelferreira> lol iter : ya i seen it
[16:34] <noelferreira> thanks
[16:35] <kanuha> natbet, BINGO, I'm in. TY very much!
[16:35] <LimCore> prince_jammys: kmail. the recent imap support is incredibly fucked up
[16:35] <dedi> stjepang: yeah for me everyting runs fine
[16:35] <stjepang> the funny thing is that old arhaic xgl and compiz with arhaic fglrx works p-e-r-f-e-c-t-l-y... nad that new cool driver just sucks :(
[16:35] <stjepang> dedi: what card?
[16:35] <cdavis> prince_jammys, yes that is what I did, the script still isn't working though
[16:35] <LimCore> and dont you !language me, because this **** is totally stopping me from work
[16:35] <furythor> when I rune app with wine, as which user I run it, I assume that as me my self ?
[16:35] <prince_jammys> LimCore: oh, thats what i use, lol
[16:35] <patogen> amenado: Thank you
[16:35] <pawan> then
[16:35] <dedi> stjepang: x800
[16:35] <vix85> is it possible to get a windowmanager icon in the systemtray so i can quickly switch between compiz and metacity?
[16:35] <meoblast001> gimme_snuggles: im screwed, i just redid the tutorial and im still not online
[16:35] <meoblast001> and i cant get it to autoload the kernel with out internet connection
[16:35] <stjepang> dedi: have you ever noticed the slow scrolling bug (maybe with older versions)?
[16:36] <prince_jammys> cdavis: paste it
[16:36] <noelferreira> iter 1.0.4 rc12 is ok?
[16:36] <blackmouse> will xen work at all with a processor (amd64) that does not specifically support virtualiazation?
[16:36] <iter> noelferreira: that's what I use iirc
[16:36] <KiteKat> hello
[16:36] <Creationist> How would I go about preventing other users from using my printer?
[16:36] <LimCore> uhm
[16:36] <pawan> but ubuntu is there in my system
[16:36] <LimCore> prince_jammys: kmail, disconnected imap - it totally broken recently
[16:36] <bazhang> yes LimCore?
[16:36] <pawan> but not loading
[16:36] <KiteKat> i need some help with my not working soundcard
[16:36] <dedi> stjepang: before 7.1 i had it once.. but long time ago
[16:37] <stjepang> hm that's weird.... I'll try the new driver... tnx
[16:37] <dedi>  diff
[16:37] <LimCore> prince_jammys: it downloads part of inbox, then starts over.... wtf
[16:37] <KiteKat> what could be the reason that my soundcard just doesn't play something anymore after a few secons
[16:37] <iter> LimCore: try thunderbird?
[16:37] <KiteKat> until i reboot
[16:37] <amenado> pawan could you please respond with a prefix nick on your responses?
[16:37] <prince_jammys> LimCore: yeah, i don't know -- i havent had that.. i use it with an aol account
[16:37] <pawan> ok
[16:37] <LimCore> iter: thunder and evolution suck
[16:38] <iter> LimCore: at least they work! :)
[16:38] <db92> ay, want some "help" (not rly just info before i install). 1) if im about to dual boot with vista (which tries to install its own bootloader) what should i install first, ubuntu or vista? 2) is there a way to make grub work with some kind of trigger and not always pop up when you boot up the machine?
[16:38] <LimCore> as in, they are not good for serious business
[16:38] <matthijs> is there a kernel package for 2.6.21.5 ?
[16:38] <prince_jammys> LimCore: try accessing it through Kontact ... worth a try
[16:38] <bazhang> db92: vista if you must ;]
[16:38] <amenado> db92 vista 1st
[16:38] <noelferreira> iter, sorry but i need the source for ubuntu not windows :(
[16:38] <cdavis> prince_jammys, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56086/
[16:38] <noelferreira> iter, i only find for windows
[16:38] <db92> bazhang: tis my brothers "demand" , i wouldnt infect my pc that way mself :P
[16:39] <bazhang> haha db92
[16:39] <noelferreira> iter, and amd64 as well. is it avaylable?
[16:39] <maximilion> Anything special to think about when installing Thunderbird? Just use Synaptic/apt-get and I'm done?
[16:39] <iter> noelferreira: right, it's a windows client to access your ubuntu desktop
[16:39] <patogen> amenado: mkisofs worked nice, perfect :)
[16:39] <noelferreira> Iter i want a ubuntu client
[16:39] <amenado> patogen-> yes it is nice. good luck
[16:39] <prince_jammys> cdavis: you get an error with the if statement?
[16:39] <iter> noelferreira: you want an ubuntu client to access vnc? I use Terminal Server Client
[16:39] <dedi> whats the best way to compare 2 folders ?
[16:39] <Creationist> Is it possible to restrict certain printers to only certain users?
[16:39] <iter> noelferreira: accesses vnc and RD
[16:40] <db92> also, if i install ubuntu-amd64, how do i install emu libs? or from some release onward emu libs werent needed? (cos i have an ubuntu cd that i downloaded like 2-3 years ago and i was thinking id let it download updates for a day or two :P)
[16:40] <prince_jammys> cdavis: try if [ "$CHOICE" == 1 ]   <--- two equal signs
[16:40] <noelferreira> iter, and it can scales the image to the client desktop resolution?
[16:40] <prince_jammys> cdavis: it's a test., not a variable assignment
[16:40] <KiteKat> what to do if soundcard stops playing after a few seconds so i have to reboot to hear sound again ???
[16:41] <cdavis> prince_jammys, here is the error I get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56091/
[16:41] <KiteKat> the same is if i change volume in the alsa mixer
[16:41] <ztf> hello there
[16:41] <bazhang> hi ztf
[16:41] <pawan> hi
[16:41] <maximilion_> I will now peruse the menus thoroughly so I know what I have already :P
[16:41] <ztf> KiteKat: i'd first look in the syslog
[16:41] <amenado> noelferreira-> if you are doing this across the internet as opposed to lan, you want to be more secure -- use freenx
[16:41] <matthijs> what is the latest kernel I can het using apt-get ?
[16:41] <thor^^> hi
[16:41] <maximilion_> Though it won't let me import my old mail. Blah. :)
[16:42] <thor^^> When you install apache2, where is public_html?
[16:42] <prince_jammys> cdavis try no quotes around "rdesktop blah"
[16:42] <noelferreira> amenado, , and it can scales the image to the client desktop resolution?
[16:42] <pawan> how to find out where is ubuntu installed
[16:42] <iter> noelferreira: mmmm not sure
[16:42] <ztf> thor^^: specified in the httpd.conf i guess
[16:42] <gimme_snuggles> meoblast001: u still hanging in there?
[16:42] <db92> is there a way to make grub load on demand instead of always load on bootup?
[16:42] <amenado> noelferreira-> to some degree, i dont know the internals, if you have a really high rez on your client, and not on your local display, do you expect it to work? off course not
[16:42] <iter> noelferreira: I assume you're trying to access a higher rez screen from a lower rez one right
[16:43] <cdavis> prince_jammys, that worked, thanks
[16:43] <LimCore> why ubuntu failed?
[16:43] <prince_jammys> cdavis: np
[16:43] <ztf> LimCore: ubuntu never fails ! sometimes you do, though
[16:43] <ztf> ;)
[16:43] <LimCore> I wanted just to use my e-mail and write documents, by all needed tools are bug ridden
[16:43] <db92> roofl
[16:43] <noelferreira> 1440x900 to 1880x800 iter, amenado
[16:43] <thor^^> ztf: the httpd.conf ig empty
[16:44] <s0u][ight> how do i install kernel-headers?
[16:44] <amenado> noelferreira-> and your local display can support such also? try and find out
[16:44] <LimCore> s0u][ight: its aclled probably linux-...-headers
[16:44] <ztf> thor^^: what's in your /etc/httpd ? or /etc/apache2 ?
[16:44] <db92> am i TOO back on ubuntu version? i have 5.10
[16:44] <meoblast001> gimme_snuggles: yeah
[16:44] <thor^^> tons of files
[16:44] <Pici> dud: yes.
[16:44] <thor^^> but all are empty
[16:44] <zionpsyfer> Trying to help a friend with ubuntu, fresh install with only one user.  That user is not in the sudoers file.  How do I go about restoring his access to sudo?
[16:44] <thor^^> looks like it's not configured
[16:44] <Pici> !5.10 | db92
[16:44] <aladdinsane> can someone help me figure out how to change the background of my desktop panes, i can dump my theme's gtkrc file somewhere if you would like to have a look (I'm using xubuntu)
[16:44] <ubotu> db92: Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger) was the third release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: April 13, 2007. See !eol for more details.
[16:44] <gimme_snuggles> did u try that command?
[16:44] <noelferreira> that's why i need it sclaed amenado. or it isn't possible
[16:44] <noelferreira> ?
[16:44] <keito> my g/f's pc has recently started playing up.  the soundcard stopped working, i took it out put it back in and it won't even boot now with the card in (doesn't even carry out POST).  boots fine without card.... then we got a new soundcard (cmedia) it boots into feisty but freezes when gnome starts, same with gutsy using a live cd... any idea's?  think the pci slots might me knackered as I've tried all of them
[16:44] <eight> 8
[16:45] <gimme_snuggles> command(s)
[16:45] <db92> !eol
[16:45] <ubotu> End-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/LifeCycle
[16:45] <ztf> thor^^: that's a bit strange, empty... dpkg --reconfigure apache2 as root maybe ?
[16:45] <zionpsyfer> gimme_snuggles:  Me?
[16:45] <amenado> noelferreira-> you have to do some research yourself, we all dont have such high rez, try it out and find out, then let us know
[16:45] <meoblast001> gimme_snuggles: whoever made this help page was smoking a little someething.... they messed up a link and i have to see if i can fix it
[16:45] <iter> noelferreira: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=344572 seems to say krdc will do it
[16:45] <zionpsyfer> ah
[16:45] <noelferreira> amenado, iter: vncviewer works ok. however i have to use scrool bars to access desktop
[16:45] <gimme_snuggles> zion: no not u :P
[16:46] <amenado> noelferreira-> do what it takes, complaining to us will not get it resolve
[16:46] <maximilion_> ztf: had Ubuntu 5 days now, once, it refused to play sound (required ctrl+alt+bksp), usb harddisk keeps spinning after shutdown, pidgin started but showed no window and couldn't be started again, occasional file dialog hiccups
[16:46] <meoblast001> gimme_snuggles: how do you load a module or whatever it is?
[16:46] <noelferreira> amenado, the problem is not resolution. i'm just trying to find a client that supports scaling. that's all
[16:46] <gimme_snuggles> meoblast001: oh ok, let me know if u have more questions
[16:46] <ricky_clarkson> So, I'm installing sun-java6-jdk, and I have a prompt about the licence.  I can't see how to close the prompt.
[16:46] <xander> can anyone help me to work wid yahoo on thunderbird
[16:46] <ricky_clarkson> Space, Return don't work.
[16:46] <gimme_snuggles> meoblast001: from what i read i believe its 'ndiswrapper -m'
[16:46] <ztf> maximilion_: what release did you install, 7.10 or 8 ?
[16:46] <Pici> ricky_clarkson: try, tab then enter
[16:46] <keito> ricky_clarkson: tab and return
[16:46] <amenado> noelferreira-> your local display has to support it, if not, you are not going to be happy
[16:46] <iter> ricky_clarkson: try tab then enter
[16:46] <maximilion_> ztf, but I think it will be fine, and I love it :) Some of these might be app quirks, too.
[16:46] <LimCore> maximilion: ubuntu seems to be really full of bugs
[16:46] <ricky_clarkson> grrr :)
[16:46] <ricky_clarkson> Thanks.
[16:47] <db92> if i install 5.10 (cos i cant rly download 7 atm), can i do some kind of online upgrade to 7 after 5.10 is installed? for example if i leave tomorrow morning for a while and leave it install some updates over the interwebs :P
[16:47] <maximilion_> ztf, 7.10 from ubuntu.com
[16:47] <keito> ricky_clarkson: ;)
[16:47] <meoblast001> gimme_snuggles: it says "module configureation already contains alias directive" when i use that
[16:47] <jeffMASTERflex> db92: no, you can't
[16:47] <bazhang> db92: best to wait for the download of a more recent version
[16:47] <gimme_snuggles> meoblast001: ok what if u do 'ifconfig -a'
[16:47] <db92> kk then
[16:47] <ztf> maximilion_ apps work fine on most computers, but maybe you've got somme buggy or unsupported hardware, isn't there anything strange in, roughly, dmesg, syslog, messages ?
[16:48] <db92> ill contact ye again after i download the most recent version :P
[16:48] <meoblast001> gimme_snuggles: the normal... but im restarting now
[16:48] <bazhang> db92: if you have some download cap then ubuntu will ship you the cds for free
[16:48] <maximilion_> ztf, well, I'm comparing to XP x64 on the same computer ;)
[16:48] <matthijs> no-one a clue to install a kernel > 2.6.21.5 ?
[16:48] <amenado> LimCore-> you have been trolling for a while now, if you prefer your windows, you are welcome to use it
[16:48] <noelferreira> amenado, and how can i start vino server with different resolution? i don't wnat a big resolution. 800x600 is great. tha only thing i don't wan't is move the srool bars in the client?
[16:48] <noelferreira> !
[16:48] <gimme_snuggles> meoblast001: ok, u should send me the link to the tutorial u are using
[16:48] <ztf> maximilion_: so i guess you installed the 7.10 for x64 hardware, is it ?
[16:48] <bazhang> matthijs: why would you want to do that? is this on gutsy?
[16:48] <iter> noelferreira: did you try using krdc?
[16:48] <s0u][ight> are the kernel headers downloadable from internet without using ubuntu as a .deb file?
[16:48] <Jordan> i cant get ubuntu to load gui. X server wont load. it says to restart gdm when it's ready. i can reconfigure xserver, but i cant get gdm to restart.
[16:48] <matthijs> bazhang, lm-sensors
[16:49] <amenado> noelferreira-> thats the trade off you get, you have to have a local high rez monitor or settle for scrolling up n down
[16:49] <maximilion_> ztf, No, I was recommended to install 32-bit, since much 64-bit stuff needs some ironing out
[16:49] <iter> amenado: noelferreira: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=344572
[16:49] <meoblast001> gimme_snuggles: my internet connection just started going real slow and its taking me minutes just to load a page
[16:49] <keito> Jordan: did you do something to mess it up?
[16:49] <ztf> maximilion_: i don't have that muche experience on x64 but i'd try x64 distro now, regarding the bugs you encounter on x32
[16:49] <bazhang> MatthijsH: this is gutsy? and you want an earlier kernel?
[16:50] <maximilion_> ztf, no error messages - except when sound failed. Just the one occurance, sound works flawlessly in every game and app I've installed
[16:50] <Jordan> no. i'm loading it off of the cd
[16:50] <gimme_snuggles> meoblast001: ok just copy the link when u can
[16:50] <ztf> maximilion_ what's the message when sound fails ?
[16:50] <noelferreira> iter, but i need a ubuntu client not windows
[16:50] <maximilion_> ztf, nah, I feel it's a very stable system.
[16:50] <MatBoy> bazhang, nope, Feisty Fawn
[16:50] <MatBoy> so I need a newer kernel
[16:50] <iter> noelferreira: KRDC? did you TRY IT?
[16:50] <maximilion_> ztf, remember I've been installing and experimenting with stuff all these 5 days
[16:50] <noelferreira> lol iter. sorry
[16:50] <iter> noelferreira:  : )
[16:50] <bazhang> !info lm-sensors
[16:51] <ubotu> lm-sensors (source: lm-sensors): utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.10.4-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 496 kB, installed size 1520 kB
[16:51] <ztf> maximilion_: sure, i'm simply not that much sharp on x64, maybe there're some traps on this
[16:51] <meoblast001> gimme_snuggles: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/D-Link_WUA-2340
[16:51] <maximilion_> ztf, I wrote the msg here two days ago, got no help, checked myself, decided not to bother and pressed ctrl+alt+bksp :)
[16:51] <bazhang> MatBoy: gutsy has it just fyi
[16:51] <MatBoy> bazhang, true, but I can' t read out my MB, I need a different kernel
[16:51] <MatBoy> bazhang, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=484189&highlight=p5k&page=2
[16:51] <bazhang> aha
[16:51] <MatBoy> :)
[16:52] <keito> when if ever are they gonna make mp3's with embedded artwork viewable in nautilus as that artwork!
[16:52] <andy_js> hi guys. I built a custom kernel but now my wireless doesn't work.  I need to built matching firmware in /lib/firmware.  How do I do that?
[16:52] <MatBoy> bazhang, so the question is... what is the best sulution
[16:52] <maximilion_> ztf, my biggest issue really with Ubuntu is that the mouse settings are veery few... should be luxurious for us who use it in our work !
[16:52] <MatBoy> to install a newer kernel
[16:52] <Creationist> Is it possible to restrict certain printers to only certain users?
[16:52] <gimme_snuggles> meoblast001: try these commands
[16:52] <Jordan_> keito: it brings up the error message when i load up the cd. then it goes to cli mode. i dont know how to reset gdm
[16:53] <MatBoy> Creationist, samba :)
[16:53] <gimme_snuggles> meoblast001: sudo depmod -a
[16:53] <keito> Jordan: to run gnome its "gnome-session
[16:53] <gimme_snuggles> meoblast001: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[16:53] <meoblast001> gimme_snuggles: k... i remember hearing these
[16:53] <Creationist> MatBoy: So you're saying you don't know... gotcha.  Thanks.
[16:53] <keito> don't know why it won't load though
[16:53] <ztf> maximilion_: you mean, mouse with more than 2 buttons etc ?
[16:53] <MatBoy> Creationist, WTF, RTFm on Samba
[16:53] <Jordan_> ok. do i use sudo or just gnome-session by itself?
[16:54] <maximilion_> ztf, Yes, can you imagine that!? :P
[16:54] <Creationist> !rtfm | MatBoy
[16:54] <MatBoy> Creationist, you need a domain for it
[16:54] <ubotu> MatBoy: Acronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[16:54] <meoblast001> gimme_snuggles: now what
[16:54] <keito> gnome-session
[16:54] <xander> exit
[16:54] <ztf> maximilion_: that's beyond belief ;)
[16:54] <gimme_snuggles> meoblast001: ifconfig -a
[16:54] <MatBoy> ow didn' tknow that :)
[16:54] <Jordan_> keito: alrtight. thanks
[16:54] <keito> sudo implies you want to run as root, which you don't
[16:54] <maximilion_> Someone should make a mouse driver made for the most expensive rocketship mouse ever made, bind macros to buttons, triple click, ... the options are endless :)
[16:54] <keito> hope that helps
[16:54] <MatBoy> Creationist, but you were suggesting I was a n**b ;)
[16:54] <keito> :)
[16:54] <ztf> gotta go, ciao people
[16:54] <Creationist> MatBoy: Why would I use a Windows technology if I don't have to?
[16:54] <andy_js> how do I built matching firmware for my kernel?
[16:54] <MatBoy> Creationist, it's linux man
[16:55] <meoblast001> gimme_snuggles: its online now
[16:55] <Creationist> MatBoy: Although, you're the only one to suggest anything, so maybe Linux actually CAN'T do it...
[16:55] <gimme_snuggles> meoblast001: hurray! lets look how to make it load that module automatically now and u should be set
[16:55] <MatBoy> Creationist, it can, but you need something to organize rights... samba !
[16:55] <meoblast001> k
[16:55] <maximilion_> A 5+ button mouse where you can bind buttons to home, end, f5, rightclick+properties, rightclick+saveAs, back, forward is a dream for pro browsers :)
[16:55] <MatBoy> or ldap, but very overdone
[16:55] <meoblast001> now my sister can stop complaining
[16:56] <maximilion_> Creationist, are you religious? :)
[16:56] <cfedde> ubuntu has a cu package but no tip?
[16:56] <Creationist> MatBoy: According to the samba manual, it is a UNIX method of using a Windows technology.
[16:56] <bazhang> !ot
[16:56] <maximilion_> Or is it a joke ? :)
[16:56] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[16:56] <Creationist> !off-topic | maximilion
[16:56] <ubotu> maximilion: please see above
[16:56] <gimme_snuggles> meoblast001: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29
[16:56] <eck090> does anyone here use ventrilo?
[16:56] <iter> Creationist: what's your problem? you have a printer that other ppl can print to? are the printing via the lan? locally? are they windows clients?
[16:56] <keito> Creationist: Samba is used for lots of networking needs ;0)
[16:56] <MatBoy> Creationist, man, this is annoying... wat do youi want ? A solution or blaming things that can talk to windows also ?
[16:56] <gimme_snuggles> meoblast001: look at " 3.7 Automatically loading at start-up"
[16:57] <Creationist> iter: No, I have a Linux desktop at home, but need to prevent certain people from using the local printer.
[16:57] <Creationist> iter: Has nothing to do with network printing... just a regular ol' USB printer.
[16:57] <jo> hi
[16:57] <andy_js> whats with all this off-topic crap?
[16:57] <Pici> andy_js: ?
[16:57] <iter> Creationist: so these 'certain people' are they local users on the linux machine?
[16:57] <MatBoy> andy_js, dunno
[16:57] <Creationist> MatBoy: Read my question, buddy... this has nothing to do with Windows or network printers... samba wouldn't help.
[16:57] <JamesY> can anyone here help me figure out how to get apache2 php5 with sqlite3 pdo working on my ubuntu 7.04 install? I'm really stuck
[16:57] <luckybamboo> i even put the user into group root, but stille the same error-message and the user can't access
[16:58] <Creationist> iter: Correct... family members to be exact :)
[16:58] <MatBoy> Creationist, it would... it's just how creative you are
[16:58] <luckybamboo> still
[16:58] <_Undefined> hi guys, i'm setting up a server and using webmin to administrate it but have heard things about the config files, could anyone clarify this?
[16:58] <Creationist> iter: Kids that like to use all the ink printing anything and everything in sight :)
[16:58] <iter> Creationist: system--> administration --> printing --> access control tab
[16:58] <nickrud> !webmin | _Undefined
[16:58] <ubotu> _Undefined: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead.
[16:59] <lwizardl> how do I make multipart rars under ubuntu?
[16:59] <pawan> nick pawan1
[16:59] <MatBoy> iter, but still than you can get around it
[16:59] <Meglo> I'm having trouble booting the 7.10 i386 livecd, it boots - sorta - but my system immediatly does a hard restart after it displays "loading i386.linux" or something along those lines. So I get about 3 seconds to read what is happening before it restarts. Anyone know of a solution? My CPU isn't i686 compatible, but I don't think that would be a problem.
[16:59] <Creationist> iter: Hmm... I'm not seeing any such tab
[16:59] <pawan1> hi
[16:59] <gimme_snuggles> keito: if ure getting errors at post its a hardware configuration problem not linux
[16:59] <pawan1> error 22 no such partition in grub
[16:59] <iter> Creationist: did you select the appropriate local printer?
[17:00] <mjw-> Meglo what kind of CPU do you have?
[17:00] <bazhang> Meglo: perhaps the alternate cd--how much ram in that machine
[17:00] <iter> Creationist: also which version of ubuntu are we talking about
[17:00] <gimme_snuggles> keito: check ure settings in ure bios and looks for irq conflicts and things of that nature, besides that it is possible (hopefully not) that the pci slot might be screwy
[17:00] <Creationist> iter: Yes.  I have tabs for General, Paper, Advanced, Driver, and COnnection.    7.10
[17:00] <prince_jammys> JamesY/usr/share/ubuntu-serverguide/html/en_GB/index.html
[17:00] <Meglo> I am using the alternative CD, I have a 800mhz VIA C3, mjw bazhang
[17:00] <ceil420> if update-manager is telling me to "Remove obsolete packages", there's no harm in removing said packages, is there? i'm just kinda nervous because `armagetron-common' and `libaudacious4' are among the packages listed, and i use both those programs
[17:00] <Meglo> 512mb bazhang
[17:00] <mjw-> Meglo try the alternate cd
[17:00] <mjw-> !alternate > Meglo
[17:00] <tonytam_> 试试
[17:00] <Meglo> mjw I am using the alternative CD
[17:00] <nickrud> !cn | tonytam_
[17:00] <ubotu> tonytam_: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[17:00] <Meglo> mjw-,
[17:00] <bazhang> Meglo: your first post said live cd
[17:00] <prince_jammys> JamesY     sudo apt-get install ubuntu-serverguide, then in a web browser::     /usr/share/ubuntu-serverguide/html/en_GB/index.html
[17:00] <pawan1> error 22 no such partition in grub
[17:01] <Indikt> :)
[17:01] <Meglo> bazhang, Sorry, I didn't mean that, they both use a ramdisk eh? I can confirm I'm using the livecd it uses the debian installer correct?
[17:01] <MatBoy> Crazymethjesus, btw, you never said on one system and one printer ;) Creationist> Is it possible to restrict certain printers to only certain users ?
[17:01] <pawan1> how to repait
[17:01] <iter> Creationist: do you have PDF as a local printer? could you select that and see if the tabs change? I don't see those on my gutsy machine at all
[17:01] <pawan1> r
[17:01] <ceil420> no one? anyone?
[17:01] <keito> gimme_snuggles: thats what I believe may be the case. post doesn't even get carried out. so the 1st card is def not good. the 2nd card however passes POST and gets to gnome session before freezing
[17:01] <iter> Creationist: instead I see settings policies access control printer options job options
[17:01] <MatBoy> But I don't like local policies at all
[17:01] <prince_jammys> JamesY: once you are set up, sudo apt-get install php-doc and mysql-5.0-doc and access the tutorials in a browser ((( both will be located in /usr/share/doc )))
[17:02] <ceil420> i'd like to continue using audacious and armagetron, but i don't want to see this message every time i update :x
[17:02] <meoblast001> gimme_snuggles: i read that and i already did all of that
[17:02] <pawan1> hello
[17:02] <Creationist> iter: You're right-clicking the printer and choosing Properties, correct?
[17:02] <bazhang> ceil420: how soon do you need an answer? ;]
[17:02] <Creationist> iter: PDF shows the same options.
[17:02] <mjw-> Meglo the livecd is a graphical installer. the alternate CD is not a "live cd"
[17:02] <ceil420> bazhang, well the window is sitting here staring at me, and i wanna know whether to Skip This Step or Remove :o
[17:03] <iter> Creationist: no-- system menu --> administration --> printing
[17:03] <bazhang> meglo the alternate cd uses ncurses
[17:03] <N0S3> hello at all
[17:03] <Meglo> mjw-, sorry for the mistake, but I am using the alternative installer without the graphical installer - not the live cd. Yes I do know that bazhang.
[17:03] <Creationist> iter: Right... I open that up and it just lists the printers.... no tabs.
[17:03] <ceil420> if audacious and armagetron can get along without these "obsolete" packages, great; but i don't wanna break my programs just cos Gutsy thinks they're old :x
[17:03] <bazhang> ceil420: your question got lost in the scroll which window do you refer?
[17:04] <ceil420> if update-manager is telling me to "Remove obsolete packages", there's no harm in removing said packages, is there? i'm just kinda nervous because `armagetron-common' and `libaudacious4' are among the packages listed, and i use both those programs
[17:04] <N0S3> i need compiz-fusion, some repository for ubuntu 6.06 ?
[17:04] <Meglo> bazhang, mjw-, I'm using the alternative debian installer so I can set up encrypted LVM, but It simply wont boot and does a hard reboot before I can get to the menu for the installer.
[17:04] <ceil420> `libtorrent9' is also listed, and i do like my torrents :x
[17:04] <prince_jammys> JamesY and once mysql is set up you may get sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin (( if you want graphical access to a mysql database   through a web browser ))
[17:04] <bazhang> ceil420: they might be metapackages in which case no harm done
[17:04] <ceil420> bazhang, cheers o/
[17:05] <bazhang> ceil420: if they are not though you may need to reinstall those packages
[17:05] <ceil420> worst case, i can just reinstall :p
[17:05] <meoblast001> gimme_snuggles: ?
[17:05] <Creationist> ceil420: If update-manager lists them as obsolete, quite possibly newer versions are already installed..
[17:05] <bazhang> yesh
[17:05] <ceil420> Creationist, that's what i was wondering, thanks :)
[17:05] <Creationist> ceil420: If you uninstall them and something breaks, just reinstall those packages.
[17:05] <gimme_snuggles> meoblast001: oh sorry i was watching ace ventura lol
[17:05] <ceil420> rgr o/
[17:05] <nickrud> ceil420: for sure you can do the remove on armagetron-common, the packaging has changed, one sec while I check the other
[17:05] <noelferreira> iter, krdc it's ok. thanks
[17:05] <ceil420> nickrud, ah, cool
[17:06] <lorix> !list
[17:06] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[17:06] <iter> Creationist: do you see your pinters in the left hand pane of the printer configuration window? try selecting the appropriate printer and maybe taking a screencap ? I suspect we are talking about two different dialogs
[17:06] <neverblue> morning
[17:06] <iter> noelferreira: : )
[17:06] <ceil420> !meaning of life, the universe, and everything
[17:06] <ceil420> puh, liar
 Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[17:06] <ceil420> lol
[17:06] <M-Nagato> ceil420, 42
[17:06] <ceil420> !botsnack
[17:06] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[17:06] <ceil420> ^^
[17:06] <Pici> !botabuse | ceil420
[17:06] <ubotu> ceil420: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[17:07] <nickrud> ceil420: and libaudacious4 has been replaced by libaudaciou5, so that's ok as well
[17:07] <ceil420> i was giving it a snack, not abusing it. that poor bot is so over-worked :(
[17:07] <ceil420> (noted, tho)
[17:07] <gimme_snuggles> meoblast001: did u edit the /etc/modules file?
[17:07] <ceil420> nickrud, ah, thanks :)
[17:07] <nickrud> ceil420: I generally trust apt, but verify is good too :)
[17:07] <mjw-> Meglo from looking online it looks like the C3 might just not be compatible enough
[17:08] <meoblast001> gimme_snuggles: that link has stuff i already did, how do i make it auto load everytime the computer starts
[17:08] <Reenen> is there any chance that ShipIt will be sending out DVD distros instead of CD?
[17:08] <ceil420> nickrud, yeah, i've got plans to put Zenwalk on the next computer i build, but i'm already dreading life without apt :p
[17:08] <luckybamboo> i really have no clue, what the reason might be, why the added user can't access the system: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56077/
[17:08] <gimme_snuggles> meoblast001: did u edit the /etc/modules file before?
[17:08] <Meglo> mjw-, can you link me to any specific information you found on the issue?
[17:08] <Pici> Reenen: Best to contact them directly, no shipit employees here iirc.
[17:09] <Creationist> iter: http://aycu29.webshots.com/image/43108/2004879928346808298_rs.jpg
[17:09] <iter> Creationist: The image .http://aycu29.webshots.com/image/43108/2004879928346808298_rs.jpg. cannot be displayed, because it contains errors.
[17:09] <Creationist> iter: crap, hang on.
[17:09] <Pici> Creationist: trippy.
[17:09] <Creationist> iter: Yeah... stupid site can't handle .png files :)
[17:10] <mjw-> meglo it seems mixed...this guy seemed to have no problem: http://daveshields.wordpress.com/2007/09/09/building-and-configuring-ubuntu-linux-on-the-asus-terminator-t1-c3-intel-socket-370-via-c3-800mhz-on-board-via-cle266-barebone-computer/
[17:10] <luckybamboo> can you please take a look at my pasted error-message? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56077/
[17:11] <gimme_snuggles> meoblast001: ???
[17:11] <meoblast001> gimme_snuggles: no... how do i do that
[17:11] <keito> gimme_snuggles: pm'd
[17:11] <mastro> do anyone know if there is a way to capture the sound from my desktop? i don't mean using a microphone i mean capturing the playback sound.. in someway redirect the playback sound to a file
[17:11] <Meglo> mkw-, I've successfully installed it on a dapper derivitive of gNewSense, and everything is stable. Also thank you a ton! That is the exact machine I have
[17:11] <keito> mastro: jack?
[17:12] <Auslegung_> I'm having a huge problem...
[17:12] <keito> mastro: you can route your audio using this
[17:12] <gimme_snuggles> meoblast001: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29
[17:12] <Creationist> iter: http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/4226/screenshotch7.th.png
[17:12] <keito> !jack
[17:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jack - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:12] <Auslegung_> I have Ubuntu 7.10, it was working fine until last night the sound cut off (again)
[17:12] <Creationist> iter: Bloody hell...
[17:12] <prince_jammys> luckybamboo: mmm it would be nice to know what program is process 6002
[17:12] <gimme_snuggles> look at the "utomatiically loading at start up"section
[17:12] <Creationist> iter: Can you tell me a DECENT site to just upload a quick screen shot to?
[17:12] <gimme_snuggles> Auto*
[17:12] <Tiven> Creationist: www.imageshack.us
[17:12] <prince_jammys> luckybamboo: new problem? after installing something?
[17:12] <Auslegung_> I restarted, the keyboard sound button wouldn't respond, I reinstalled ALSA (or whatever it is), restarted, and now it boots into the terminal, no UI at all
[17:12] <Creationist> Tiven: Yeah, that's the one I just tried.
[17:13] <Creationist> Tiven: Gives me links to a thumbnail, not the full image.
[17:13] <Pici> Creationist: http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/4226/screenshotch7.png  (just removed .th)
[17:13] <luckybamboo> prince_jammys, no. it's not after installing. it's after adding a new user. and trying to access the system by this user.
[17:13] <Creationist> iter: http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/4226/screenshotch7.png
[17:13] <Auslegung_> I'm now using a liveCD
[17:13] <Creationist> lol good grief.
[17:13] <Creationist> Pici: Thank you.
[17:13] <Tiven> Auslegung_: install gnome desktop manager
[17:13] <Tiven> i had same problem
[17:13] <luckybamboo> prince_jammys, the other (old) user still can access
[17:13] <Auslegung_> Tiven I don't want to re-install as I have my Ubuntu tweaked out like crazy
[17:13] <Auslegung_> Tiven I'd rather just find the problem and fix it
[17:14] <Pici> Creationist: What menu is that?
[17:14] <Tiven> Auslegung_: type startx on the terminal , and then reinstall gnome desktop manager
[17:14] <u007-1> hi, i can't manage to get my external hdd: Myson Century, Inc. Fast 3.5" External Storage to work on ubuntu 7.1
[17:14] <luckybamboo> prince_jammys, so it maybe some files missing somewhere?
[17:14] <gimme_snuggles> meoblast001: read that section carefully meo
[17:14] <Creationist> Pici: It's the mintMenu :)
[17:14] <Tiven> Auslegung_: you wont lose any setting at all , i did the same before 2 days
[17:14] <u007-1> i've ntfs-3g installed, but still doesn't work :(
[17:14] <ConstyXIV> doesn't upstart have concurrent booting?
[17:14] <ox> hey, anyone get a webcam working with Flash 9 on Ubuntu 7.10?
[17:14] <Auslegung_> Tiven you mean after I restart my cpu?
[17:14] <meoblast001> gimme_snuggles: k
[17:14] <Tiven> Auslegung_: after you install gdm
[17:14] <Auslegung_> Tiven What's gdm?
[17:14] <mastro> keito> mastro: you can route your audio using this «« what if the application i need to redirect audio doesn't support jack?
[17:14] <prince_jammys> luckybamboo: no, a permissions issue ... maybe someone here can help, but i've never experienced this
[17:15] <Tiven> Auslegung_: gnome desktop manager
[17:15] <luckybamboo> prince_jammys, in the menatime i gave root-group to the new user but it didn't help
[17:15] <Auslegung_> Tiven oh, so right now, as a liveCD user, install gdm?
[17:15] <luckybamboo> meantime
[17:15] <Creationist> iter: I put the menu in the screenshot to show which launcher I was using... it's the System -> Administration -> Printing one.
[17:15] <Tiven> Auslegung_:  , if you boot on linux , it wont show any graphics , right ? just a terminal
[17:15] <timmy> any one know any good music program
[17:15] <Auslegung_> Tiven correct
[17:15] <Tiven> Auslegung_: okay... use the terminal. login , (type username and then password)
[17:15] <Tiven> Auslegung_: and then , type: startx
[17:16] <prince_jammys> luckybamboo: what is the user and group name for this new user
[17:16] <iter> Creationist: try running /usr/bin/system-config-printer from a shell or the run menu
[17:16] <Creationist> iter: Doesn't exist.
[17:16] <Tiven> Auslegung_: graphics will load after few seconds , might took 1-2 minutes too. then you go to synaptic and re/install gnome desktop manager
[17:16] <keito> mastro: couldn't tell you, pretty sure it should!?
[17:16] <Auslegung_> Tiven thanks, if I'm not back in a few minutes then it worked, and I would kiss you if I could
[17:17] <Tiven> Auslegung_: lol okay :0
[17:17] <prince_jammys> luckybamboo: try same name for both --- both NEW names (not already in group list)
[17:17] <luckybamboo> prince_jammys, the user is named hoesel and his maingroup is hoesel.
[17:17] <prince_jammys> luckybamboo: ok, that shouldnt be a problem
[17:17] <prince_jammys> luckybamboo: created through the gnome interface or from command line?
[17:18] <luckybamboo> prince_jammys, what you mean with both NEW names?
[17:18] <iter> Creationist: apt-get install system-config-printer ?
[17:18] <luckybamboo> prince_jammys, first i tried from bash and then by gnome interface
[17:18] <prince_jammys> luckybamboo: it's ok, they are new names (ie the group hoesel didnt exist before)
[17:18] <luckybamboo> both the same error
[17:18] <joby> is there a way to reset ubuntu to how it was when i first installed it?
[17:19] <iter> Creationist: btw we are definitly running different printer control apps here.. the standard gutsy one (for me) is system-config-printer which I didn't have to install by hand
[17:19] <Creationist> joby: Unfortunately only by reinstalling Ubuntu.
[17:19] <s0u][ight> how do i install kernel headers?
[17:19] <luckybamboo> prince_jammys, what more can i try?
[17:19] <Creationist> iter: Ah... well I'm actually running LinuxMint.  Didn't realize they changed printer config utilities.
[17:19] <joby> ok, is there someone who can tell me how to completley remove a program off of the computer so i can get it to work again?
[17:19] <mastro> keito, using jack to do what i need means use jack for every applications i have... starting from gnome to any other.. games and so on... and sometimes jack isn't supported
[17:19] <mastro> keito, anyway thanks :)
[17:19] <prince_jammys> luckybamboo: not sure, checking the web
[17:20] <keito> mastro: np
[17:20] <joby> i have Wine Windows Emulator, it is just stopped working and Im trying to get rid of it...
[17:20] <luckybamboo> prince_jammys, yeah i also did since 2 hours...
[17:20] <joby> and then reinstall the program so i can get it to work correctly
[17:20] <joby> im new to this so please help me
[17:20] <keito> mastro: surely you don't have to start jack (only when you want to) and then that isn't applicable
[17:20] <Creationist> iter: If I had system-config-printer installed, I would have been able to figure this out with a problem.  GOt it.  Thank you :)
[17:20] <luckybamboo> prince_jammys, a lot seemed to have the same error-message but in other circumstances.
[17:20] <keito> mastro: sound will work as normal
[17:20] <iter> Creationist: :)
[17:21] <neverblue> joby, well that matters if it adds a folder to your /home dir, which program ?
[17:21] <joby> neverblue: its Wine Windows Emulator
[17:21] <KemrinH> Yay Wine!! (Wine is not an Emulator)
[17:21] <andy_js> wine windows emulator!!!??!!?!!
[17:22] <thor^^> :p
[17:22] <prince_jammys> luckybamboo: you can login as this user through a terminal, right?  it's strictly a gnome issue
[17:22] <s0u][ight> how do i install .deb files on a local disk?
[17:22] <andy_js> I hear wine-doors is good
[17:22] <joby> that is what it says on mine...
[17:22] <neverblue> joby, then yes, its something that will create a dir in /home
[17:22] <thor^^> Wine-doors is excelent ;)
[17:22] <s0u][ight> dpkg?
[17:22] <stefano> nautilus is draining up to 70% cpu usage - does anyone know why it does that and how i may force it not to?
[17:22] <luckybamboo> prince_jammys, how to login at this user through terminal?
[17:22] <neolith2099> I think it should be called "Wine Windows Interpreter"
[17:22] <joby> ok, so what does that mean? how do i completely get rid of it
[17:22] <Creationist> iter: Turns out the dialog I was using is gnome-cups-manager
[17:22] <luckybamboo> s/at/as
[17:22] <TIRC_1264> add send
[17:22] <KemrinH> But then wouldn't it be called WWI?
[17:23] <stefano> not a good name :>
[17:23] <prince_jammys> luckybamboo: do ctrl alt F1 to login in through terminal, when you're done, come back to your current session with ctrl alt F7
[17:23] <adamb> Hey guys whats a aim client that i can use besides pigdin?
[17:23] <prince_jammys> luckybamboo: you dont need to log out of your current session
[17:23] <iter> Creationist: yeah also you're using linux mint and not gutsy :p
[17:24] <Creationist> iter: Well, it's tightly based on Gutsy... so I figured the changes would be minor ;)
[17:24] <KemrinH> You could use XChat
[17:24] <bazhang> Creationist: that is not supported here
[17:24] <Creationist> bazhang: I know that.
[17:24] <neverblue> joby, well sudo aptitude remove wine, wont get rid of it entirely, as you will have a dir in your /home/user/ that is related to wine, which you want to remove as well. rm -rf /home/<username>/.wine
[17:24] <adamb> Hey guys whats a aim client that i can use besides pigdin?
[17:25] <Creationist> bazhang: But the support I get here almost always works for LinuxMint.... and until Ubuntu actually works on my system a little better, I can't justify using it.
[17:25] <Shapeshifter> I need xvnc4viewer or xtightvncviewer for another distro but I can't find any sources or anything, just those package infos on debian or ubuntu sites? Any idea where that stuff could be?
[17:25] <jpatrick> Shapeshifter: apt-get source the package
[17:25] <bebe> rg
[17:25] <bazhang> Creationist: doesn't matter--not supported period
[17:25] <neverblue> joby, then sudo aptitude purge wine maybe will delete both, but I am unsure of that 100%
[17:25] <Creationist> bazhang: I didn't ask it to be, did I?
[17:25] <exegesis> Tiven, this is Auslegung from before and it worked, thanks a lot.  I have a problem with sound that's why I'm on now\
[17:26] <Creationist> bazhang: I asked an ubuntu-related question and applied it to my own configuration.
[17:26] <Tiven> exegesis: nice :)) . whats up with the sound ?
[17:26] <iter> Creationist: actually, you did .. and I helped you, now please play nice
[17:26] <exegesis> My sound will just stop working every few weeks, and I think it may have to do with me downloading a torrent on Azureus
[17:26] <db92> ok now i downloaded 7.10 and i "mount" on daemontools the image to make sure about what it is
[17:26] <exegesis> any ideas?
[17:26] <db92> and i see "this is a live cd etc"
[17:26] <db92> yet, i downloaded what it said was the installer >>
[17:26] <exegesis> This has happened a few times before and I've managed to fix it before but can never remember what I did
[17:26] <ox> anyone get their webcam working with Gutsy and Flash 9?
[17:26] <Tiven> exegesis: checked the sound control panel ? are they muted ? almost everything gets muted for me in alsa every few hours/days
[17:27] <KemrinH> Hey, I'm trying to skin my grub menu, I've got the picture/archive thing in place, but I'm not sure which partition it's on.
[17:27] <exegesis> TIven I've already checked that but will check again
[17:27] <db92> something im getting wrong here or i just downloaded the wrong image?
[17:27] <sean_> is there a way to make an application use both cores of a dualcore CPU ???
[17:27] <Shinji-> db92, livecd is installer
[17:27] <db92> aha
[17:27] <sean_> im using DeVeDe btw...
[17:27] <Fudzi> hi
[17:28] <Fudzi> everyone
[17:28] <exegesis> Tiven, under SOund Preferences I have everything autodetect and they test fine, except Sound Capture is ALSA and it doesn't test right
[17:28] <luckybamboo> prince_jammys, yes i could login in terminal.
[17:28] <luckybamboo> as the new user
[17:28] <prince_jammys> luckybamboo   did you copy any files into this new user's home?
[17:28] <exegesis> Tiven my sound is working now, but the problem is my keyboard volume buttons do nothinnng to the sound
[17:28] <Fudzi> hello
[17:28] <Shinji-> db92, boot the cd and you will see a icon "installer"
[17:28] <sirius-black> hey, i need some help, i installed ubuntustudio yesterday, and all of the jack packages, but if i run ubuntu 7.10 kernel 2.6.22-14-rt instead of generic, it gives me an nvidia error message comparable to this: fatal: install command nvidia (ee): fail load nvidia kernel mod (ee): ***aborting*** (ee): screens found, no usable configuration
[17:28] <Fudzi> i install ubuntu on my macbook
[17:28] <Tiven> exegesis: i dont know how to fix that im sorry :( - 2 of my friends are having the same problem as well
[17:28] <KemrinH> I know that it's in my root partition, but I don't know what to call it in grub.list
[17:28] <Fudzi> using bootcamp
[17:28] <Shinji-> db92, it's all gui :)
[17:29] <db92> Shinji-: kk cos i am in the "5.10 age" where i remember livecd != installer
[17:29] <exegesis> Tiven: ok thanks, at least my sound is working, I guess...
[17:29] <db92> and i remember where there was no gui :P
[17:29] <Shapeshifter> jpatrick: I said, for another distro, so I'm loogin for the sources, but the sources on debian / ubuntu info pages are all for vnc4 or tightvonc, and not for the resp x-viewer
[17:29] <db92> kk then :=DD
[17:29] <prince_jammys> luckybamboo: or alter the permissions/ownership of the files in this new user's home?
[17:29] <luckybamboo> prince_jammys, no i didn't if the gnome-user-creator did not.
[17:29] <Fudzi> the problem is by default it boot with ubuntu
[17:30] <luckybamboo> prince_jammys, but these files/folder belong to the user (as user and as group)
[17:30] <Fudzi> have to change the boot order to boot with mac OS by default
[17:30] <sirius-black> hey, i need some help, i installed ubuntustudio yesterday, and all of the jack packages, but if i run ubuntu 7.10 kernel 2.6.22-14-rt instead of generic, it gives me an nvidia error message comparable to this: fatal: install command nvidia (ee): fail load nvidia kernel mod (ee): ***aborting*** (ee): screens found, no usable configuration
[17:30] <Fudzi> ????
[17:30] <luckybamboo> prince_jammys, the folder looks very nice. bashrc and stuff. all there
[17:30] <Shinji-> db92, you could use alternate => no gui :P
[17:30] <sean_> is there a way to make an application use both cores of a dualcore CPU ???
[17:30] <sean_> is there a way to make an application use both cores of a dualcore CPU ???
[17:30] <prince_jammys> luckybamboo: all owned by him and his group
[17:31] <jeffMASTERflex> sirius-black: you need the kernel headers i think for the real time kernel
[17:31] <sean_> sorry for the double post :s
[17:31] <luckybamboo> prince_jammys, true
[17:31] <bazhang> Fudzi: ubuntu-tutorials has tons of stuff for that you may want to check them out
[17:31] <db92> Shinji-: rooofl np i just didnt know there WAS a gui <<
[17:31] <JamesY> no suggestions, eh? OK, guess I'll go back to grinding away...
[17:31] <Shinji-> dg92, hehe ok
[17:31] <Shinji-> db92, hehe ok
[17:31] <prince_jammys> luckybamboo: the permissions of the .ICEauthority file?
[17:31] <sirius-black> jeffmasterflex: do you know the package names? or otherwise how to do that?
[17:32] <Repley> hi all. can i on my gutsy disabling cpu frequency scaling? how to? i want to use my notebook as a desktop. i want to disable all energy policy
[17:32] <jeffMASTERflex> nope. i don't. sorry. i am positive it's in the studio repos, though.
[17:32] <lgc> Hi. Is it safe to format an empty chunk of my disk located AFTER my partitions without doing it from a live CD?
[17:32] <scjp_> ~pastebin
[17:32] <luckybamboo> prince_jammys, there is no .ICEauthority in the hoesel-home-folder, but it's in the other user-home-dirs.. curious
[17:32] <Odd-rationale> Repley: Usually you can set that in the BIOS.
[17:32] <prince_jammys> luckybamboo: just fishing around here, but worth checking ..... if everything seems ok i recommend deleting the user, deleting his home, and adding him back
[17:32] <jimat> Could any body tell me what "inexistent package" means?
[17:33] <luckybamboo> prince_jammys, but maybe the missing .ICEauthority could be a solution?
[17:33] <DJAdmiral> that the package does not exist
[17:33] <luckybamboo> what is it fo?
[17:33] <luckybamboo> for
[17:33] <bdancer> hi all
[17:33] <Repley> Odd-rationale: thank you. but on start i have an error "cpu frequency scaling not supported" or similar, i don't remember the right error string
[17:33] <DJAdmiral> Hello, bdancer
[17:33] <Fudzi> bazhang: not  really
[17:33] <prince_jammys> luckybamboo: maybe, but i don't know if you can just paste someone else's in there ... i don't know the purpose of this file, but i know it's important to the X session
[17:34] <Fudzi> to resume
[17:34] <Discipulus> any Java programmers in here? I asked a question in ##java but no one answered my question
[17:34] <sirius-black> jeffmasterflex: scripts for real time security module?
[17:34] <Fudzi> i install ubuntu on my macbook
[17:34] <luckybamboo> prince_jammys, i opened the iCE-file of another user and suppose just copy and paste won't help... it's quite user-specific
[17:34] <Fudzi> default it start with ubuntu
[17:34] <DJAdmiral> luckybamboo: what are the directory permissions?
[17:34] <bdancer> on my ntfs partition all files have run permission - what to write to fstab to have them no run perms?
[17:34] <DJAdmiral> Discipulus: I might be able to help.
[17:34] <bazhang> fudzi sadly we do not know boot camp well here ;] there is a channel for that however
[17:34] <Fudzi> i just want to change the boot order how ?
[17:34] <DJAdmiral> I did java a long time ago, so things have changed since then
[17:34] <luckybamboo> DJAdmiral, belongs all to the user.
[17:34] <luckybamboo> home-dir
[17:34] <greek> hi
[17:34] <sirius-black> use administration
[17:35] <jimat> DJAdmiral: I downloaded "dmraid" driver (.deb file) and brought it home with a penstick, then to install it I just double click. and it said "inexistent package", what do you think I should do?
[17:35] <luckybamboo> prince_jammys, i will remove the user and try to add him again.
[17:35] <CyanideD> i need help installing flash drivers
[17:35] <prince_jammys> luckybamboo: something might have gone wrong when you tried first bash --- unless there's valuable stuff in that home, you could remove it and the user, and try readding from gnome
[17:35] <Repley> Odd-rationale: is possible to disable from both: bios and ubuntu? and, how to?
[17:35] <Fudzi> is this official chanel ?
[17:35] <DJAdmiral> Fudzi: Yes, this is
[17:35] <greek> wie gets euch
[17:35] <jeffMASTERflex> sirius-black: try #ubuntustudio . they'd be able to tell you for sure
[17:35] <bazhang> Fudzi: your question is with how to do it in boot camp correct?
[17:35] <sirius-black> fudzi: do you mean first start from cd, then HD instead of usual order?
[17:36] <Evan_Rolfe> hi guys, this is a noob irc question: how do i message somebody specifically in xchat? so in the chat is says username: blablabla?
[17:36] <Fudzi> no
[17:36] <Noiano> hello
[17:36] <DJAdmiral> jimat, could you open up a terminal and try this command in the directory where the .deb is?
[17:36] <DJAdmiral> dpkg -i packagename.deb
[17:36] <DJAdmiral> and tell me the output. pastebin it if it's big
[17:36] <Fudzi> no
[17:36] <CyanideD> how do i install flash players
[17:37] <Noiano> can anybody help me in setting up my ati graphic card? I get the usual "dri initialization failed" ....i have tried the solution suggested in the wiki but nothing :(
[17:37] <prince_jammys> Evan_Rolfe: type the first few chars of the name, then tab
[17:37] <jimat> DJAdmiral: ok i'll try thanks
[17:37] <prince_jammys> !tab | Evan_Rolfe
[17:37] <ubotu> Evan_Rolfe: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[17:37] <Fudzi> on my macbook i have already install three OS : mac OS ubuntu and vista
[17:37] <kesi> hi all, I suddenly started having probs with my gutsy install today.   I can't get firefox to start, it just starts to load and then quits.   And, while nothing is running the cpu is running at over 15%..  I didn't do anything different and I don't think I installed any updates.
[17:37] <Fudzi> but by default it boot with ubuntu
[17:38] <neverblue> Fudzi, in Virtual Machines? which is the host OS?
[17:38] <DJAdmiral> CyanideD: run this command in the terminal: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted
[17:38] <bazhang> Fudzi: using what boot loader
[17:38] <Fudzi> i just want to boot with os by default
[17:38] <gaurav_> how does ubuntu run under a mac Fudzi?
[17:38] <Fudzi> no virtual
[17:38] <Fudzi> using bootcamp
[17:38] <CyanideD> E: Couldn't find package ubuntu-restricted
[17:38] <Fudzi> i install ubuntu and vista
[17:38] <DJAdmiral> kesi: could you run this up in a terminal and pastebin the output? firefox
[17:39] <neverblue> Fudzi, keep the posts to a single line please
[17:39] <bazhang> Fudzi: using boot camp?
[17:39] <Stevethepirate> !enter
[17:39] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[17:39] <prince_jammys> kesi: type in terminal--> top
[17:39] <Fudzi> yeah
[17:39] <jeffMASTERflex> kesi: rm -rf .mozila then run it again
[17:39] <luckybamboo> prince_jammys, i deleted it and created a complete different user by gnome but still the same error.
[17:39] <jeffMASTERflex> .mozilla*
[17:39] <prince_jammys> luckybamboo: crap
[17:39] <will6> Hello everyone!  Quick question.  Is it possible to install grub over lilo with no boot issues (want to install 7.10 on a laptop that boots xp and another nix distro with lilo)  possible to do just the standard install and not drop the ability to boot my xp part.?
[17:39] <neverblue> Fudzi, so I am guessing that MacOS is on there atm, and you want to add Ubuntu, or you already did?
[17:40] <luckybamboo> prince_jammys, true dat.
[17:40] <CyanideD> Djadmiral did you get that
[17:40] <DJAdmiral> CyanideD: my bad, it's actually: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:40] <prince_jammys> jeffMASTERflex: you maybe want to warn the man that that command will delete all his bookmarks
[17:40] <Fudzi> neverblue: atm ?
[17:40] <jeffMASTERflex> ahh yes... that WILL delete your bookmarks
[17:41] <Frijolie> hey all, what's a program that will utilize with a built-in webcam on a laptop? I'm anxious to try it out to see if it will work.
[17:41] <CyanideD> ok its downloading so this will install flash players
[17:41] <kesi> got firefox to run but everything is running slow.  Here' s a pastebin of top
[17:41] <Frijolie> i've already tried pidgin
[17:41] <kesi> http://pastebin.com/m3e6dc86e
[17:41] <neverblue> Fudzi, atm == at the moment
[17:41] <DJAdmiral> CyanideD: And a bunch of other handy things as well, yes
[17:41] <slat> will6: i think the worst case scenario is that you will have to do an easy edit of the /boot/grub/menu1at file
[17:41] <DJAdmiral> kesi, I'll take a look at that
[17:41] <CyanideD> ok any chance you can help me with another thing
[17:42] <DJAdmiral> CyanideD: Ask away.
[17:42] <kesi> DJAdmiral, thanks
[17:42] <Fudzi> no neverblue  i repeat i have already done
[17:42] <Frijolie> prince_jammys: thanks for your help yesterday with the partition stuff
[17:42] <db92> i still need emulation libs with 7.10 or from some version onward ubuntu became backwards compatible when it comes to processors? :P (i downloaded 64 bit)
[17:42] <Fudzi> when i start my macbook
[17:42] <prince_jammys> Frijolie: np
[17:42] <CyanideD> ok i have a nivdia crad 6200 before i moved to linux i was able to put what was on my desktop on to my tv . how can i get that back?
[17:43] <prince_jammys> kesi: try killall firefox-bin and restart firefox
[17:43] <kesi> prince_jammys, k.
[17:43] <neverblue> Fudzi, and how does Ubuntu run on your Mac?
[17:43] <Frijolie> prince_jammys: so, assuming you remember me and my prob, now that i have a 138B /home folder. I should install all apps there?
[17:43] <Fudzi> i have to prush the "option" key to access to choose an operating system if i forgot to prush the "option " key by default it boot with ubuntu
[17:43] <DJAdmiral> CyanideD: By that you mean you had a TV-out port? Like your TV showed what was on your monitor, right?
[17:44] <CyanideD> yes, using the S-video port
[17:44] <prince_jammys> Frijolie: you are installing apps through apt / synaptic?
[17:44] <Fudzi> and i want to change the boot order by booting default mac os
[17:44] <bazhang> Fudzi: you want help booting osx with boot camp as the default
[17:44] <DJAdmiral> CyanideD: should be easy enough. What model is your nvidia card again?
[17:45] <DJAdmiral> kesi: nothing seems to be out of the ordinary here. Let me compare it with my top.
[17:45] <Fudzi> yeah
[17:45] <Pici> !dualboot | Fudzi have you read this?
[17:45] <ubotu> Fudzi have you read this?: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[17:45] <prince_jammys> Frijolie: they  will be automatically installed in the right folder, which is not your home --- your home is for your personal files and personal configuration for different progs (eg your firefox preferences)
[17:45] <Frijolie> prince_jammys, yes mostly. When you install them that way, where do they go?
[17:45] <bazhang> ##apple Fudzi
[17:45] <Shinji-> db92, only with flash, i think?
[17:45] <prince_jammys> Frijolie: they go in various places inside of /usr/share
[17:45] <CyanideD> 6200
[17:45] <kesi> DJAdmiral, firefox is flaking again
[17:46] <Frijolie> prince_jammys: /usr ...so where does /usr reside (what partition) / ?
[17:46] <DJAdmiral> kesi: hmm, odd. xorg takes up only 1% usage on my computer. strange.
[17:46] <LordInfamous> hey
[17:46] <prince_jammys> Frijolie: how many partitions do you have?
[17:46] <db92> Shinji-: what do you mean "flash" ?:p
[17:46] <Fudzi> Pici: thx
[17:46] <prince_jammys> Frijolie: are you coming from windows? ie are you a previous windows user?
[17:46] <Frijolie> prince_jammys: i have a 2GB partition for /swap, a 15GB partition for /, and the rest of my HDD for /home
[17:46] <LordInfamous> is it possible to set up a printer on a desktop running ubuntu and have it be available on the network on my xp laptop
[17:47] <Fudzi> ok i find the solution
[17:47] <kesi> DJAdmiral, what does the xorg proc do?
[17:47] <Frijolie> prince_jammys: I haven't used Windows for about 7 months
[17:47] <Shinji-> db92, adobe flash
[17:47] <exneo> how do I join anonymous the antiscientology group
[17:47] <Fudzi> thx a lot
[17:47] <exneo> anybody
[17:47] <Fudzi> bye
[17:47] <db92> Shinji-: not what im rly interested in
[17:47] <db92> so generally there isnt? :P
[17:47] <Shinji-> db92, k :)
[17:47] <bazhang> exneo not here
[17:47] <ghostlines> does anyone know how to minimize fullscreen games?
[17:47] <exneo> where anybody know?
[17:47] <Pici> ghostlines: usually alt-enter
[17:48] <prince_jammys> prince_jammys: /usr is in your / partition, and it take up the most space, along with your home, if you have many files (movies and such)
[17:48] <sirius-black> hey
[17:48] <jeffMASTERflex> !ot | exneo
[17:48] <ubotu> exneo: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[17:48] <DJAdmiral> Lordinfamous, I think that is, but I do know that's available the other way around as well
[17:48] <exneo> k
[17:48] <justnulling2> i have logitech mx600 mouse how should i set it up?
[17:48] <DJAdmiral> kesi, what processor do you have?
[17:48] <sirius-black> what about jack server help? XD
[17:48] <kesi> DJAdmiral it's a Celeron on a laptop , let me see if I can find out which one
[17:48] <LordInfamous> DJAdmiral, yes ive tried it on xp but its not seeming to work so i figuered ubuntu would be easier, and work :)
[17:48] <DJAdmiral> ghostlines: which games, for instance?
[17:49] <ghostlines> urban terror
[17:49] <Frijolie> prince_jammys: so should I resize and give / more space? my /home is 138GB. I definately have some to spare
[17:49] <ghostlines> i'm running ubuntu with gnome
[17:49] <prince_jammys> prince_jammys: /usr takes up space because all progs go there::   /usr/share/bin stores the executables,  /usr/share/doc stores documentation/manuals that may come with progs,,, /usr/share/libs stores libraries ...... so a single program will have files in all those directories ... when uninstalled, they are found and removed
[17:49] <kesi> here's the current firefox error: raichlea@gilgamesh:~$ firefox
[17:49] <kesi> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[17:49] <DJAdmiral> ghostlines: usually alt+tab, or F11, or Alt+Enter
[17:49] <DJAdmiral> kesi: segmentation fault?
[17:49] <ghostlines> cool i'll give it a go and see if it works thanks
[17:49] <DJAdmiral> kesi: yikes!
[17:50] <prince_jammys> Frijolie: run the application "baobab" to see a graphical display of disk use :: in a terminal, type --> baobab
[17:50] <sirius-black> how do i start the jack server?
[17:50] <kesi> DJAdmiral, now it started... also it's an Pentium M
[17:50] <CyanideD> Djadmiral you there
[17:51] <boris_> hi
[17:51] <DJAdmiral> kesi: that's surprising. It shouldn't take that much PC usage.
[17:51] <boris_> !fonts
[17:51] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[17:51] <boris_> !fonts
[17:51] <kesi> DJAdmiral, any suggestions?
[17:51] <DJAdmiral> CyanideD: I am, but I'm downloading something right now, so I might not be getting all messages.
[17:51] <stephen-mason> hey Ive seen a bar in some vids how do i get it? like osx?
[17:51] <DJAdmiral> stephen-mason: what bar?
[17:51] <CyanideD> ok my card is a nivdia 6200
[17:51] <theLichKing> does ubuntu have support for broadcom 4321 wireless cards?
[17:52] <jeffMASTERflex> stephen-mason: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/global_menu
[17:52] <bazhang> avant window navigator stephen-mason
[17:52] <hamid> heeeeeeo
[17:52] <hamid> !help
[17:52] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[17:52] <stephen-mason> the dock?
[17:52] <bazhang> yes
[17:52] <Pici> !ask | hamid
[17:52] <ubotu> hamid: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:52] <hamid> i have problem whit kenel
[17:52] <hamid> kernel
[17:52] <stephen-mason> bazhang is that like osx's dock/
[17:53] <theLichKing> hamid, what problem?
[17:53] <retrofantasy> How do I type in control-characters like \002 please ?
[17:53] <bazhang> stephen-mason: decide for yourself and check out some screenshots
[17:53] <hamid> when i install a driver i get that meg " kernel source not found ?
[17:53] <DJAdmiral> retrofantasy: you mean unicode letters?
[17:53] <Frijolie> prince_jammys: I must not have baobab istalled, "bash: baoab: command not found"
[17:53] <LukeLM> To anyone here with join leave notifications on: I'm really sorry.. I've been testing a lot in here and you've prolly seen me join/leave 1000 times
[17:54] <prince_jammys> Frijolie: missing a "b"
[17:54] <DJAdmiral> retrofantasy: or the copyright symbol and stuff like that?
[17:54] <retrofantasy> yes ... DJ
[17:54] <stephen-mason> is that just windows management or can itr have shortcuts?
[17:54] <hamid> when i install a driver i get that meg " kernel source not found ?"
[17:54] <retrofantasy> .. or specifically /032 please
[17:54] <hamid> when i install a driver i get that meg " kernel source not found ?"
[17:54] <DJAdmiral> Applications>Accessories>Character Map
[17:54] <prince_jammys> Frijolie: try it from Applications --> accessories -->Disk Usage
[17:55] <stephen-mason> ill try it out
[17:55] <theLichKing> hamid, what is this driver for?
[17:55] <hamid> sagem usb modem
[17:55] <hamid> foe internet
[17:55] <sirius-black> how do you start the jack server?
[17:55] <hamid> for internet
[17:55] <Pici> !enter | hamid
[17:55] <ubotu> hamid: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[17:56] <theLichKing> hamid, well, if it says kernel source not found, then you don't have the kernel source.. install it from apt
[17:56] <david> hmm.. I'm having an odd problem with videofiles and my players, they don't seem to automatically open the files?
[17:56] <theLichKing> hamid, i believe it's the kernel-source package
[17:56] <david> SMPlayer for example only starts when I doubleclick a file
[17:56] <stephen-mason> where can i download avant?
[17:56] <DJAdmiral> hamid, try exactly this command in the terminal: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-'uname -r'
[17:56] <theLichKing> hamid, but i don't know why a modem driver would require the kernel sources, have you tried googling your card+ubuntu?
[17:56] <david> could this perhaps be that I need a custom startline?
[17:57] <Weird-Donkey> i've got a screen problem here with ubuntu, can anybody help ?
[17:57] <david> /usr/bin/smplayer -blah ?
[17:57] <DJAdmiral> theLichKing: There are quite a few modem drivers that need the kernel sources. eagle-usb is one.
[17:57] <DJAdmiral> theLichKing: mostly for USB modems.
[17:57] <Pici> !ask | Weird-Donkey
[17:57] <ubotu> Weird-Donkey: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:57] <theLichKing> DJAdmiral, thanks for the information, i didn't know that
[17:57] <Weird-Donkey> alright, ill type this up
[17:58] <Frijolie> prince_jammys: sorry, I had a power interruption
[17:58] <prince_jammys> Frijolie: did you see it?
[17:58] <hamid> theLichKing, thank u i want to know that the name of package is apt-get
[17:58] <stephen-mason> avant window navigator where can i download?
[17:58] <DJAdmiral> theLichKing: Anytime. Compiling kernel modules regularly does give you some very useful knowledge :P
[17:58] <prince_jammys> Frijolie: in the menu:  Application --> Accessories --> Disk Usage Analyzer      (another way of opening "baobab")
[17:59] <Frijolie> prince_jammys: I must not have baobab installed, "bash: not baobab is not a recognized command"
[17:59] <DJAdmiral> hamid: try this command: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-'uname -r'
[17:59] <Survivorman> http://code.google.com/p/avant-window-navigator/
[17:59] <prince_jammys> Frijolie: KDE or gnome?
[17:59] <DJAdmiral> copy and paste it, if you must
[17:59] <hamid> ok
[17:59] <kesi> DJAdmiral, weird... I found a post on the ubuntu forums that had the same segmentation fault.    They recommended uninstalling colorzilla which hasn't worked right in ubuntu anyways.  I did that and it seems to be working now
[17:59] <Pici> DJAdmiral: use backticks not regular quotes for that.
[17:59] <theLichKing> hamid, it could be kernel-headers.. go to synaptic and search for kernel + source
[17:59] <sirius-black> thereś a strange bug, sometimes my mouse freaks, and i get logoff requests
[17:59] <Odd-rationale> stephen-mason: You can also get a .deb at www.getdeb.net
[17:59] <DJAdmiral> kesi: Odd. Good work on getting it to work proper again, though
[17:59] <Survivorman> or here https://launchpad.net/awn
[18:00] <stephen-mason> ok isit the best osx dock type of program?
[18:00] <kesi> Thanks all!
[18:00] <Weird-Donkey> im running a laptop (T61P 14.1 screen) with ubuntu 7.10, recently i tried to connect my desktop flatscreen and it didnt work out great, messed arround a bit with the resolution to have some dual monitoring working, but it still woudlnt work, so i unplug everything and reboot the laptop, in the screen configuration pannel i've lost the "Costom1" setting that i once had, and now i cant play with the screen brightness anymore a
[18:00] <Weird-Donkey> there it is
[18:00] <Frijolie> prince_jammys: The Applications menu thing worked..i got it pulled up. I use GNOME
[18:01] <DJAdmiral> Pici: Ooh yes, thanks. I keep forgetting to do that.
[18:01] <david> anyone else using SMPlayer who can paste their commandlines?
[18:01] <Pici> DJAdmiral: or alternatively, use $(uname -a)
[18:01] <prince_jammys> Frijolie: from there you can "scan filesystem" and it'll show you a pretty picture of what your system looks like
[18:01] <DJAdmiral> hamid, sorry, copy and paste this one instead: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[18:02] <Docfxit> How can I remove the login? If I need to re-boot remotely I can't sign on.
[18:02] <hamid> ok DJAdmiral
[18:02] <khelll> how to change the charset of a file ?
[18:02] <prince_jammys> Frijolie: click around in the directories and get info on those --- if you hover your mouse over the pie chart you get info too
[18:03] <DJAdmiral> khell: I know that can be done in gedit somehow
[18:03] <khelll> DJAdmiral i need to do so from console
[18:03] <meoblast> hello.... im trying to use frostwire, but it cant connect to the network, it can connect to the chat but not the network, i think this might have something to do with ubuntu networking so im gonna ask here
[18:03] <sirius-black> anyone know how to configure my microphone?
[18:03] <meoblast> can anyone help?
[18:04] <prince_jammys> Frijolie: what you see is the typical linux file system::   /  , /bin /dev /etc /lib and so on, are all standard in linux
[18:04] <Frijolie> prince_jammys: hmm..that's pretty cool!
[18:04] <marowit> hi, i ran into problem. After i installed ati drivers with envy ctr+alt+f1 or all the others f* aren't working, Anybody knows the solution?
[18:04] <Weird-Donkey> so anyone would know how to have the system doing a re-check on the screen i have ?
[18:05] <prince_jammys> Frijolie: looks weird at first, but it's a kickass system
[18:05] <retrofantasy> DJAdmiral -- found it, ty !!
[18:05] <Pici> !envy | marowit
[18:05] <ubotu> marowit: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[18:06] <Frijolie> prince_jammys: when it gives percentages, is it saying that is x% of the partition or of the HDD space?
[18:06] <prince_jammys> Frijolie: check this:  http://www.linuxcommand.org/lts0040.php
[18:06] <mjw-> sirius-black doubleclick the volume control in the panel
[18:06] <xidarian> how do i remove then install vimtutor, i broke it somehow
[18:06] <prince_jammys> Frijolie: x%of the folder you happen to be looking at i think -- that's a bit confusing
[18:06] <s0u][ight> hello where can i download wine for ubuntu i mean a .deb file of wine
[18:06] <xidarian> i tried sudo apt-get remove vim
[18:07] <stephen-mason>  help ive installed avant window navigator with a deb but i dont know how to open it?
[18:07] <xidarian> sudo apt-get remove vim
[18:07] <s0u][ight> i'm on windows atm i need to download it with windows
[18:07] <xidarian> sudo apt-get remove vimtutor
[18:07] <sirius-black> mjw: i meant for the jack server really, XD
[18:07] <xidarian> sudo apt-get remove vimtutor
[18:07] <xidarian> sudo apt-get remove vi
[18:07] <Pici> !enter | xidarian
[18:07] <xidarian> nothing worked
[18:07] <xidarian> !enter?
[18:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about enter? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:07] <Pici> xidarian: stop repeatig.
[18:08] <xidarian> srry
[18:08] <xidarian> didnt' mean to
[18:08] <Pici> !nickspam > fwa (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[18:08] <s0u][ight> :| nobudy?
[18:08] <marowit> ubotu: i'm afraid i ruined restricted drivers when i followed the "How to binary ati" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-117effcb5f0fbe8e10f40881bff1dbf7824a77b0
[18:08] <Pici> s0u][ight: packages.ubuntu.com
[18:08] <theLichKing> !nickspam > TheDreamer
[18:08] <Frijolie> well it says that my /home/music folder is 97.9%. What does that mean? does it mean  that my /music folder is 97.9% of my /home folder's data?
[18:08] <Jordan> gui wont load from cd try to reconfigure get error "gnome-session: 7808: GtK-WARNING **: cannot open display
[18:08] <rinaldi_> meoblast: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[18:08] <stephen-mason> avant window navigator ive installed but i dont know how to open it?
[18:08] <s0u][ight> tnx
[18:08] <invit> hello
[18:09] <Frijolie> prince_jammys: well it says that my /home/music folder is 97.9%. What does that mean? does it mean  that my /music folder is 97.9% of my /home folder's data?
[18:09] <Pici> stephen-mason: avant support in #awn :)
[18:09] <Survivorman> It might be found in the applications menu, or open it with the command avant-window-navigator
[18:09] <prince_jammys> Frijolie: yes
[18:10] <prince_jammys> Frijolie: which makes sense
[18:10] <sirius-black> how do you configure the microphone for the jack server(and midi keyboard too)
[18:10] <Bodsda> hey guys, im after a game boy advanced emulator -- the most popular windows one is VBA (VisualBoyAdvanced) wine cant run it -- i no there is one in repo's but it doesnt have a gui, which is more or less essential,.,.does anyone know where i can find one?
[18:12] <theLichKing> Bodsda, do you know any good ps2 emulator?
[18:12] <Jordan> live cd wont load and reconfiguring doesn't work
[18:12] <Frijolie> prince_jammys: ok, that's cool. Do you know a program which will utilize a webcam? I'm anxious to test out the one that came built-in on my new laptop
[18:12] <Survivorman> visualboyadvance is on linux too
[18:12] <prince_jammys> Frijolie: i don't know
[18:12] <LifeIsNow> ciao a tutti
[18:12] <LifeIsNow> che sever belissiamo
[18:12] <Pici> !it | LifeIsNow
[18:12] <magnetron> Frijolie: ekiga
[18:12] <ubotu> LifeIsNow: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[18:12] <LifeIsNow> belissimo
[18:12] <jessid> hello. I have a web server in this computer. I would like to know if there is a user connected to it. how can i know that???
[18:12] <Bodsda> theLichKing, there is only 1 free ps2 emulator -- its for windows -- and it plays ---- aahhh --NOTHING! -- its still in developement
[18:13] <theLichKing> Bodsda, in development? till when? till ps5 is out?
[18:13] <Survivorman> bodsda: http://vba.ngemu.com/downloads/SDLTest-Linux.zip
[18:13] <Frijolie> magnetron: ah, i didn't think of that one..I'll give it a try
[18:13] <LifeIsNow> ubotu
[18:13] <Jordan> theLichKing: try pcsx2
[18:13] <theLichKing> Bodsda, makes me stick to my opinion that emulators/vms/compatibility layers are plain crap
[18:14] <Bodsda> theLichKing, yep,.,prob,.,.there having problems getting the code right -- something to do with copyright (which has always been sensitive with emulators)
[18:14] <rinaldi_> theLichKing: iv tried many ps2 emulators, including pcsx2, it's still in development, didnt work for any of my games
[18:14] <LifeIsNow> ufffffffffffffffaaaaaaaaa
[18:14] <LukeLM> The thing about console emulators is to make them perfect takes A LOT of time and hard work, then all you get from it is a bunch of whiners asking for roms etc
[18:14] <Jordan> rinaldi_: it works for all of my games, but fps never goes above 40
[18:14] <theLichKing> Bodsda, i see
[18:14] <Bodsda> Survivorman, ok ty,. ive already tried that,.,.i couldnt get it to work -- tbh i had no idea what to do with any of it? any thoughts>
[18:15] <rinaldi_> Jordan: well its been a while since i tried it, just asumes. may try again thanks
[18:15] <Bodsda> theLichKing, because they have to right the compat layers by hand now -- so good be a while ,.,.although i found this information 4 months ago ,.,.might be different now
[18:15] <LukeLM> I doubt you'll ever seen a good PS2 emulator or any consoles after that
[18:15] <joeamined> hi
[18:15] <Bodsda> LukeLM, why?
[18:15] <LukeLM> Read up :P
[18:16] <joeamined> i'd like to add a cron job everytime a start a new session, how to do this pls ?
[18:16] <theLichKing> LukeLM, i haven't seen any good emulator, let alone ps2
[18:16] <Pici> joeamined: Every time you log in?
[18:17] <joeamined> pici yes
[18:17] <Bodsda> theLichKing, zsnes is good and all the game boy emu's on windows have been brilliant -- psx is coolio and works on *nix
[18:17] <sean_> how do i change the icon that shows for a HDD on the desktop to something else?
[18:17] <Pici> !startup | joeamined take a look here
[18:17] <ubotu> joeamined take a look here: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[18:17] <Jordan_> rinaldi_: i dont know how well it works on linux since ubuntu won't install on my computer
[18:17] <Bodsda> Survivorman, any joy?
[18:17] <joeamined> pici yes, but how to run the command terminal from there ?
[18:17] <theLichKing> Bodsda, i tried to run final fantasy 8 on epsxe.. lots of headaches and things that don't work.. so that was it for me
[18:17] <Survivorman> bodsda, check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442826. there is some info there and some suggestions on other alternatives and at least one that runs under wine.
[18:18] <Bodsda> Survivorman, ok cheers dude
[18:18] <theLichKing> gotta go now.. bb
[18:18] <Pici> joeamined: gnome-terminal is the application name of the gnome terminal.
[18:18] <Bodsda> theLichKing, psxe plays my ff8 fine
[18:18] <s0u][ight> hello i got an intel 945 graphics card is the driver of it allready in use?
[18:19] <ocha> how do i get dark crusade within 0.9.35 to lock the mouse within the application, even though i have clicked "keep mouse within the directx app. no leaving the world."
[18:20] <sirius-black> does anyone know how to set up a midi keyboard?
[18:20] <pike_> !915resolution| s0u][ight
[18:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 915resolution - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:20] <pike_> s0u][ight: er.. grab that package
[18:20] <Bodsda> ocha, dark crusade as in warhammer ??
[18:21] <ceil420> heh
[18:21] <ocha> bodsda: corrent
[18:21] <s0u][ight> hmm
[18:21] <s0u][ight> i got 945
[18:21] <ceil420> apparently i did need libaudacious4, cos now it won't play music :|
[18:21] <ceil420> (xmms works, tho o/)
[18:21] <s0u][ight> isn't the same one :s
[18:21]  * ceil420 reinstalls audacious
[18:21] <Bodsda> ocha, i love that game!!!! although they screwed up with land raider restriction imho
[18:22] <sirius-black> does anyone know how to set up a midi keyboard?
[18:22] <LifeIsNow> uffffffffffaaaaa
[18:22] <orochi_> Anyone know offhand if Quake Wars runs well under 6.3? ;>
[18:23] <MatBoy> does someone know a good tool where i cn change my CPU speed with using Ubuntu ?
[18:23] <ceil420> aren't all id's games linux-friendly?
[18:23] <ocha> bodsda: we could go all day on how they need to reinstate units and bring units in and lets not even compare it to the table top game. it is so off!  but anyone, do you know about my mouse problem?
[18:23] <fran> Wola!!!
[18:23] <orochi_> ceil420: Ahh, yes...wrong channel I'm asking that in, sorry :>
[18:23] <ceil420> heh
[18:24] <Fudzi> hi
[18:24] <Fudzi> everyone
[18:24] <Bodsda> ocha, tbh, i have the same prob,. it wont scroll when pushed against left hand screen,. it has to be a diagonal or up and down ,.,.so irritating
[18:24] <ocha> bodsda: your also running dark crusadE?
[18:24] <Fudzi> can anyone show me the link all effect with ubuntu ?
[18:24] <rustmonster> Why is my system reporting my memory to be 3477456K when I have 4 gigs?
[18:25] <rustmonster> my bios correctly says i have 4 gigs
[18:25] <Bodsda> ocha, well, im running the original (Warhammer 40k (first in quadrilogy)) but i have the same prob
[18:25] <prince_jammys> rustmonster: that number is about 4 gigs
[18:25] <Bodsda> guys i still cant find a game boy advanced emulator? anyone know anywhere i can get one (not the repo -- it has no gui)
[18:25] <AngryElf> what browser will use a different cache/session than firefox
[18:25] <AngryElf> ?
[18:25] <fdamstra> rustmaster> Where is it reporting the 3,477,456K?
[18:26] <rinaldi_> ocha: I have problems like that in steam games and i disble compiz
[18:26] <rustmonster> prince I thought that the number of K should exceed 4000000, since I gig = 1024 meg?
[18:26] <fdamstra> rustmaster> try 'cat /proc/meminfo'.
[18:26] <rustmonster> fdamstra: top is
[18:26] <Bodsda> rinaldi_, but thats not really a fix
[18:26] <prince_jammys> rustmonster: 3.316 gigs is what i got
[18:26] <lgc> how can I grep the lines that begin with 1 and end with 14, with anything in the middle?
[18:26] <LMJ> all others AngryElf, look into synaptic for some light http browser like galeon
[18:26] <fdamstra> rustmaster: any chance your video card uses shared ram?
[18:26] <rustmonster> MemTotal:      3477456 kB
[18:26] <rustmonster> fdamstra: yes! Aha!
[18:27] <rustmonster> rustmonster: that's an awful lot of ram to eat for memory though...
[18:27] <rinaldi_> Bodsda: well it is wine you're running these games in? its recommended that you dont run compiz anyway
[18:27] <fdamstra> lgc: I'd run it through two greps.
[18:28] <Bodsda> rinaldi_, i run it in cedega
[18:28] <khelll> how to change file encoding from console ?
[18:28] <fdamstra> lgc: cat <filename> | grep -e '^1' | grep -e '14$'
[18:28] <aunes> I heard a rumor that I can migrate from etch to ubuntu using apt-get. How true is this? How likely is it to break everything?
[18:29] <prince_jammys> rustmonster: short about 700 M or .68 gigs
[18:29] <Pici> fdamstra: why not just egrep '^1.*14$' filename ?
[18:29] <pike_> aunes: certainly possible but safer probably just to install to nother partition and reuse or backup /home
[18:29] <pike_> aunes: im sure there is a thread in the forums with howto though
[18:30] <fdamstra> Pici: that would work too, pici, and probably more efficient.
[18:30] <rustmonster> Hm, actually I doubt my video uses 716 megs of RAM
[18:31] <lgc> fdamstra, I just came to the conclusion that you are right. Though in theory "^1*14$" should do the trick, if I'm right.
[18:31] <fdamstra> Okay, I have a server running 6.06 LTS server.  It boots fine, but networking doesn't work.  ifconfig shows the correct IP information, but arp table remains empty.  If I run /etc/init.d/network restart, everything starts working until the next reboot.
[18:31] <prince_jammys> yes, cat blah | grep pattern  [18:31] <sirius-black> does anyone know how to set up a midi keyboard?
[18:31] <fdamstra> lgc: you're missing a . before the *.
[18:31] <sirius-black> for the jack server?
[18:31] <lgc> fdamstra, it doesn't work either.
[18:31] <ocha> Bodsda, the first dawn of war is supported?
[18:31] <Ulfalizer> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/10/29/enabling-the-cube-in-compiz-fusion-on-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon/ this guide mentions "System > Preferences > Advanced Desktop Effects Settings", but there doesn't seem to be any such menu item in my 7.10 install. what gives?
[18:32] <fdty34g> hello all. i have a problem- i have a cronjob, but it won't execute for some reason. i checked the path to the command, and it is correct.
[18:32] <Bodsda> ocha, nope none of them are
[18:32] <Jordan_> live cd wont boot a gui and reconfiguring doesnt work
[18:32] <fdamstra> lgc: both work in all my tests.  Maybe there's something strange with your input.
[18:32] <ocha> bodsda: but the first one is working for you?
[18:33] <lgc> fdamstra, I actually want it to be 'grep -E "^1\ .*14$"'.
[18:33] <Bodsda> ocha, all three work for me , and the 4th demo version
[18:34] <fdamstra> lgc: You probably need to use apostrophes not quotes or the shell might try to glob that *.
[18:34] <ocha> bodsda: i didn't know there were a fourth one coming out?  how do you get around the mouse leaving the directx app window?
[18:34] <lgc> fdamstra, let me try that...
[18:34] <rustmonster> my laptop specs say that it should only be up to 224MB of shared video memory
[18:35] <lgc> fdamstra, nah! It didn't work.
[18:35] <Bodsda> ocha, i use cedega -- or a windows install, copied over ran with wine -- only have the problem occasionaly, but its not very major,.,.
[18:35] <hfmls> hi
[18:35] <prince_jammys> lgc: can you paste a sample line you want to match
[18:35] <hfmls> can someone tell me a good ftp client ?
[18:36] <Pici> hfmls: filezilla perhaps?
[18:36] <fdty34g> hfmls: gftp and filezilla are fine ftp clients
[18:36] <hfmls> tx
[18:36] <fdty34g> i have a problem with my cron job not running, can someone help me please?
[18:36] <joakim1> EDUBUNTU
[18:37] <lgc> fdamstra, be my guest: "1        12.0290         -8.5444         12.8800          1.3126        14"
[18:37] <Pici> joakim1: ?
[18:37] <Jordan_> ubuntu livecd wont load gui and it doesnt work after i reconfigure either
[18:38] <prince_jammys> lgc: worked for me
[18:38] <mthope-nosKill> Im thinking about switching to ubuntu from windows, anyone think this is the best thing to do? i want to have a better environment to program in but i still wanna be able to use my old windows programs... or at least some of them.. like poker
[18:38] <lgc> prince_jammys, I mean you, be my guest: '1        12.0290         -8.5444         12.8800          1.3126        14'. These are the patterns I want to catch.
[18:38] <ocha> bodsda, do you have problems with the mouse only in the first dawn of war?
[18:38] <prince_jammys> lgc: grep -e '^1.*14$'
[18:38] <Bodsda> ocha, no, all of them
[18:38] <lgc> prince_jammys, it needs the space after "1",
[18:38] <prince_jammys> lgc: followed by the filename
[18:39] <prince_jammys> lgc: grep -e '^1 .*14$'  matches the line you pasted
[18:39] <Jordan_> mthope-nosKill: u may want to keep windows in case ubuntu doesn't work for u. ive been trying for about 3 days and still cant get it to install but windows runs fine on my system. Just backup ur data before u do anything!
[18:39] <ocha> bodsda. how do oyu deal with that?  i can't stand it.  it's unplayible for me.  do you use the arrow keys
[18:39] <develtiie> hello, I want to enabled java into firefox. I don't want to use sun-java6-plugin since I have already installed java manually. I have done the link 'ln -s /my/path/jdk6/jre/.../libjava_oji.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugins'. When I try an applet I have no error but it's white. When I disable java into firefox menu, I't written 'java not supported'. What can be wrong ? thanks
[18:39] <prince_jammys> lgc: space after 1
[18:40] <Boglizk_> Uhm.. i sorta pressed alt-shift-ctrl-f5 for some reason.. and it like.. did something O.o.. like.. X is gone, but still running, and the music is still playing..
[18:40] <mthope-nosKill> Jordan_: thanks, do you know if you can still use most windows programs? do .exe work on ubuntu?
[18:40] <lgc> prince_jammys, 'grep -e '^1 .*14$' ' produces no output on my term.
[18:40] <Bodsda> ocha, no, i can still scroll acroos the screen with the mouse, aslong as i dont use the left hand sie -- i use the corners
[18:40] <ocha> bodsda, just letting you know, i can get dark crusade full screen mode to control the mouse, but the second i go into windows mode. i can't get it to lock down within wine for some reason
[18:40] <prince_jammys> lgc: followed by the filename?
[18:40] <lgc> prince_jammys, of course.
[18:40] <Bodsda> ocha, could you not just maximise the window?
[18:41] <sirius-black> how do i make an input channel from my midi keyboard?
[18:41] <prince_jammys> lgc: mmm i just pasted it in stdin and it showed a match, not sure whats up
[18:41] <Jordan_> mthope-nosKill: some work well and others dont work at all. office has opensources and basic software is fine. As for .exe files us an emulator like Wine.
[18:41] <Bodsda> guys can you help with this error please : bod@bod-desktop:~/Desktop/vbaexpress-1.2$ make sh ./misc/make_readme.sh ./misc/make_readme.sh: 10: Syntax error: "(" unexpected make: *** [first] Error 2
[18:42] <ocha> bodsda, what do you mean? when im in windows mode, just max to fit the screen?
[18:42] <Bodsda> ocha, yer
[18:42] <lgc> prince_jammys, would it have to do with globbing, perhaps?
[18:42] <sirius-black> how do i make an input channel from my midi keyboard?
[18:42] <mthope-nosKill> Jordan _: so if i use Wine that means i can use any exe program??
[18:43] <LimCore> mthope-nosKill: not every program is compatible.  the simple ones usually
[18:43] <Bodsda> mthope-nosKill, no -- only some exe's --well most of them
[18:43] <mthope-nosKill> do you think its gonna be hard for me to learn to use the OS? im a programmer and feel it will be useful to know how to use it
[18:43] <Jordan_> mthope-nosKill: almost any exe program. Some games dont work but most "normal" programs run fine
[18:44] <prince_jammys> lgc: created a file with that line in it, ran the grep and it matched --- so i dont know whats going on
[18:44] <salik> hello ubuntians
[18:44] <rinaldi_> mthope-nosKill: ubuntu is easy to learn once you get into it. as for the .exe files go to winehq and there is an app database with ratings on compatibility
[18:44] <lgc> prince_jammys, hmm... I'm puzzled...
[18:44] <prince_jammys> lgc: a GNU grep issue vs other grep??  i really dont know
[18:44] <mthope-nosKill> rinalidi_
[18:45] <mthope-nosKill> rinalidi_: how do i get there? sorry im new to all this i dont even have it installedyet
[18:45] <lgc> prince_jammys, since we're both on Ubuntu with default term options -I suppose- that shoudn't be an issue.
[18:45] <db92> is there a way to make grub work on demand (ie keypress) instead of having it always boot at startup?
[18:46] <rinaldi_> mthope-nosKill: http://appdb.winehq.org/  just do a search on the left pane. howver there are many open source alternatives to windows programs, have a look for those before you install any .exe's
[18:46] <prince_jammys> lgc: any special chars in the filename?
[18:46] <lgc> prince_jammys, nope. 'movies.loc'.
[18:46] <acuster> db92, what would happen if grub didn't work? (you need a bootloader, no?)
[18:47] <mthope-nosKill> rinaldi_: thank you. so as far as programming goes ill still be fine? i program in java c++ xhtml that kinda stuff, it will all work in this OS?
[18:47] <db92> in fact i need a bootloader for dualboot between oss
[18:47] <prince_jammys> lgc: the folks at #bash can deal with this well
[18:47] <ocha> bodsda, it's already maxed, or at least maxed size within the panel bar
[18:47] <db92> but as this is in fact my older brother's pc (ugh) and he doesnt "want" to see the bootloader appear at startup so it always boots up windows when it starts
[18:47] <Bodsda> ocha, and you dont like playing like that?
[18:47] <db92> i was like "kay ill ask if it bootloader can be launched on keypress"
[18:48] <rinaldi_> mthope-nosKill: im no programmer but im pretty sure you'll be fine with c++
[18:48] <prince_jammys> lgc: its grep city over there, they should be able to fix this
[18:48] <lgc> prince_jammys, good idea. Let me try luck there.
[18:48] <db92> and here i am, for my idiotic brother's annoyance. so there is a way to make it work on keypress? :P
[18:48] <mthope-nosKill> rinaldi_: ok thanks
[18:48] <acuster> db92: make it time out with 1sec and it will flash by
[18:48] <ocha> bodsda, full screen mode or windows mode?  which one do you mean?
[18:48] <ali1234> db92: you can set an option to hide grud and boot windows as default. you wont see it unless you press escape
[18:48] <mthope-nosKill> rinaldi_: why do you use this os as opposed to others?
[18:48] <acuster> even better
[18:48] <Bodsda> ocha, fulscreen and maximized are different   correct?
[18:48] <db92> ali1234: press escape WHEN? :p
[18:49] <ali1234> db92: it outputs a very short message like "press escape for boot menu" or something, iirc
[18:49] <db92> aha :p
[18:49] <rinaldi_> mthope-nosKill: well the main thing is that it works from go, i could go on though
[18:49] <ocha> bodsda, a little bit, you can see your panels bars it matters to me.  i rather play in windows mode any day over full screen mode
[18:50] <mthope-nosKill> rinalid_: what do you mean wit works from go
[18:50] <izra> qolaz
[18:50] <izra> wolas
[18:50] <mthope-nosKill> rinaldi_: what do you mean wit works from go
[18:50] <eX|> hey guys, is programming for unix just c++?
[18:50] <Odd-rationale> This might be a bit OT, but what is kpovmodeler? And how does it differ from blender?
[18:50] <izra> alguien habla ezpañol
[18:50] <izra> ???
[18:50] <maximilion_> Import mail from Thunderbird XP to Thundebird Linux? Only Communicator mail seems to be supported. :(
[18:50] <eX|> er i mean unbuntu
[18:50] <izra> mmmm
[18:50] <izra> xd
[18:50] <Bodsda> ocha, i misunderstand your problem
[18:50] <AngelBai> Can any body can see my words here [你好.]?
[18:50] <ocha> i can
[18:51] <maximilion_> AngelBai, looks like Chinese
[18:51] <AngelBai> Ｙｅｓ,ｙｏｕ　ａｒｅ　ｒｉｇｈｔ
[18:51] <ali1234> Odd-rationale: it's a modeler for povray renderer... it's not as advanced as blender, uses KDE rather than a custom GL GUI, and doesn't include a renderer
[18:51] <ocha> bodsda, i can't keep mouse within the directx app window while in windows mode
[18:51] <Bodsda> ocha, and you prefer windowed mode? why?
[18:51] <Pici> !cn | AngelBai
[18:52] <ubotu> AngelBai: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[18:52] <rinaldi_> mthope-nosKill:  with other os like windows, before I can get onto doing my day to day things, i have to install about 10 different programs, with ubuntu it comes with pretty much all the apps i need, and any programs i need are just a command away. you should give the livecd a try before you install anyway and you'll see for yourself
[18:52] <Odd-rationale> ali1234: What are it's potentials compared to blender, in your opinion?
[18:52] <mthope-nosKill> rinalid_: how do i get the livecd??
[18:52] <kharloss> hi there .  any  My Book World Edition II from Western Digital  here ?
[18:52] <AngelBai> Do you know the macmenu plugin for the xfce4?
[18:53] <fmu_ubuntu> hi there, im upgrading ubuntu and need to automaticly restart once finished, how can i do this?
[18:53] <Freakingme> How do I see whether opengl works properly?
[18:53] <hamid> theLichKing, that command line sudo apt-get install linux-headers-'uname -r' run also in linux open suse
[18:54] <AngelBai> Freakingme, may be you should install a game to test it.
[18:54] <ocha> bodsda, i like to access my folder manager faster, and i like the look and the feel i get when i see my panel bars at the top and bottom of my screen
[18:54] <Freakingme> AngelBai I'm not that into gaming. I'm trying to run an app with wine, and I suspect opengl to be the troublemaker
[18:54] <rinaldi_> !install | mthope-nosKill
[18:54] <ubotu> mthope-nosKill: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[18:54] <MasterShrak> !download | mthope-nosKill
[18:54] <ubotu> mthope-nosKill: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Gutsy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[18:55] <mysterycool> hey
[18:55] <ali1234> Odd-rationale: last time i tried kpovmodeler it was very simplistic with only the ability to add platonic solids and move vertices by hand, and then generate a povray source file from the result. that was a long time ago though
[18:55] <mthope-nosKill> !download
[18:55] <mysterycool> so i really need a lot of help here :s
[18:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Gutsy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[18:55] <mike16> hi all, ive got a bit of a networking question, i have two ubuntu boxes both with apache i installed apache on both of them, they both work fine internally but for somereason only one of them works exteranally and i know the port forwarding is fine
[18:55] <mark4> ok on my quick launch bar how do i drag items and change their position. i can pick them up but when i drop them it wants to drop them ON other icons, not between them
[18:56] <Odd-rationale> ali1234: OK Thanks! I just ran across it and was trying to figure what it was.
[18:56] <ali1234> Odd-rationale: blender of course is a full featured app that can rival commercial products (it used to be commercial)
[18:56] <pbne04> when I boot ubuntu, I have to press alt+f1, otherwise nothing happens - the log afterwards shows that its trying to resume some image..anyone got an idea how to fix this?
[18:56] <jouellette> Hi, Can anyone help me create a .deb package? It uses cmake and I"m having issues building the package correctly
[18:56] <mysterycool> i am a newbie on linux and i really need to learn some stuff. could somebody help me please?
[18:56] <novato_br> how to execute two command in the same time ?
[18:56] <mike16> i guess my question is, can apache somehow block incoming ips or something
[18:56] <mark4> and it wont let me pick up the "?" icon at all
[18:56] <mike16> mystery cool, i can try
[18:56] <fmu_ubuntu> hi there, im upgrading ubuntu and need to automaticly restart once finished, how can i do this?
[18:56] <Odd-rationale> mysterycool: Start with the ubuntuforums.org And Don't be afraid to try new stuff. Welcome to Linux!
[18:57] <mark4> or the mozilla firefox icon
[18:57] <Pici> !ask | mysterycool
[18:57] <ubotu> mysterycool: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[18:57] <MasterShrak> mysterycool: just ask a question and someone will probably help you :) also as Odd-rationale suggested the forums are a great resource
[18:57] <tknudsen> greetings, How do I build a package from source with all the 'configure' params that I want, as I would with FreeBSD?
[18:57] <novato_br> is there somebody knows how to make shell script?
[18:57] <mark4> ok they were locked but how do i drop an icon BETWEEN two other icons. how do i make sure that when i drop an icon to the right of another icon i dont have a gap?
[18:58] <dennda> what's the channel for kurdish speaking people? jiyan asked in query
[18:58] <Odd-rationale> novato_br: www.linuxcommand.org is a great place to learn how to do it yourself. ;)
[18:58] <pocketdrummer> Is there an alternative program to MoBlock? I wanted to get peerguardian, but it doesn't work for linux.
[18:58] <mysterycool> ok so i am a newbie and i wanna know how to install software that are on that .gz or whatever format (those that i need to compile them in via those commands on the shell) and also how i can use Wine (the program that makes some window software run on linux).
[18:58] <MasterShrak> tknudsen: first you need to install build essential: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[18:58] <novato_br> rhx, Odd-rationale
[18:58] <MasterShrak> tknudsen: then just build it like normal
[18:58] <mysterycool> *windows
[18:58] <MasterShrak> novato_br: i have some experience, not alot but some, whats up?
[18:58] <mark4> can someone tell me how to make MICRO adjustments to icon positions on the quick launch bar?
[18:58] <Pici> mysterycool: What software do you need to install that is in tar.gz?
[18:58] <ArmedKing> any gnome alternatives for kpf "KDE Public Fileserver"
[18:59] <mark4> and how to drop icons BETWEEN other icons?
[18:59] <mysterycool> any kind i mean just learn how to do that.
[18:59] <Odd-rationale> mysterycool: First, make sure that there isn;'t one in the repo already. What program are you trying to install?
[18:59] <dennda> !kurdish
[18:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kurdish - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:59] <dennda> hm
[18:59] <magnetron> mark4: right click them, unlock them, choose move
[18:59] <fmu_ubuntu> hi there, im upgrading ubuntu and need to automaticly restart once finished, how can i do this?
[18:59] <Pici> !english | dennda check the links
[18:59] <ubotu> dennda check the links: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[18:59] <yoluca> is there another place from where mplayer read the config files except /home/luca/.mplayer/config ?
[18:59] <mysterycool> well I wanna know how to compile a program in order to run generally
[18:59] <Marupa> is there a program that will show VUs for a particular sound device (/dev/dsp) to see if it's getting anything?
[18:59] <mysterycool> and also about Wine
[18:59] <ubuntuLOVR> i have xp and ubuntu dual booting.  i messed up xp and had to install it.  RIght now im in the live cd ubuntu7.10 and trying to reinstall grub to the MBR.
[18:59] <Pici> !compile > mysterycool (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[19:00] <Pici> !wine > mysterycool (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[19:00] <Pici> !software > mysterycool (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[19:00] <dennda> thanks Pici
[19:00] <dennda> I'll pass it on
[19:00] <Pici> dennda: Sure :)
[19:00] <magnetron> !grub > ubuntuLOVR
[19:00] <mysterycool> thanks :>
[19:00] <mark4> ok this is annoying
[19:00] <ubuntuLOVR> i followed some instructions but "setup (hd0)" i get cannot mount.
[19:00] <mysterycool> can Microsoft Office run on Linux via Wine?
[19:01] <Okn> Is there a way to run Adobe After Effects with any emulator ?
[19:01] <Pici> mysterycool: Some versions.
[19:01] <Pici> !appdb | Okn
[19:01] <ubuntuLOVR> thank you magnetron, im going to check those links
[19:01] <ubotu> Okn: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[19:01] <mark4> i dont want to drop my pidgin quick launch icon on top of my x chat quick launch icon, i want to drop it BETWEEN that icon and the firefox icon
[19:01] <pocketdrummer> mysterycool: Probably, but why when you already have Open office?
[19:01] <Docfxit> Is there a firewall in Ubuntu? I need to open up a port.
[19:01] <mark4> am i just not understandingt something here or what?
[19:01] <ali1234> Okn: vmware should do it if wine can't
[19:01] <pocketdrummer> Docfxit: Are you using a router or something like that?
[19:01] <magnetron> mark4: sure, unlock the fx icon and move it awawy
[19:02] <mark4> no
[19:02] <mysterycool> Pici: the 2007? I have the cd with the installation (cuz I had xp so far but they dies cuz i was stupid enough to make some stupid stuff while installation)
[19:02] <mark4> they are ALL unlocked
[19:02] <ali1234> mark4: yes, sont drag it, after unlocking, right click again, and click move
[19:02] <fmu_ubuntu> hi there, im upgrading ubuntu and need to automaticly restart once finished, how can i do this?
[19:02] <mysterycool> pici: will it run?
[19:02] <Pici> mysterycool: Check  http://appdb.winehq.org
[19:02] <Okn> ali1234, sagol ;)
[19:02] <mark4> if i try move one icon IN BETWEEN to others in instead drop the icon im moving ON TOP OF one of the others
[19:02] <Docfxit> pocketdrummer » yes but I'm on the lan not going through the firewall
[19:02] <mark4> ugh
[19:02] <Pici> mysterycool: Theres also Openoffice for Ubuntu that can open .doc files.
[19:02] <mysterycool> pocketdummer: its just cuz microsoft office have many more futures than oppen office
[19:02] <mark4> ok i see it now
[19:03] <mark4> if dragging is not the way to do it then dragging should not be an option
[19:03] <mysterycool> yeah i know openoffice. ive used it but i prefer the office of microsoft
[19:03] <Pici> mark4: If the icons are locked they won't move, thats by design.
[19:03] <pocketdrummer> docfxit: I was just asking, because my router has a built in firewall. I'm not sure if Ubuntu has its own.
[19:03] <Pici> !firewall | Docfxit
[19:03] <ubotu> Docfxit: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[19:03] <pocketdrummer> mysterycool: Fair enough :D
[19:03] <mysterycool> :p
[19:04] <ali1234> mark4: dragging means to open a file with an app, like dragging a document onto open office icon or whatever...
[19:04] <mark4> pici they wernt locked. i had already unlocked them. but if dragging them with the mouse is not the way to move them (i.e. click on them and move the mouse) then it should not be an option
[19:04] <mark4> ]
[19:04] <Docfxit> ubotu » tx
[19:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:04] <tknudsen> Is it possible to re-build the distribution in ubuntu, like FreeBSD 'make world'?
[19:04] <mark4> thats counter intuative
[19:04] <Pici> mark4: Drag them with the middle mouse button,.
[19:05] <mysterycool> pici: on windows the only game I played was guild wars (an online game like World Of Warcraft style). Will I be able to play it with wine?
[19:05] <mysterycool> pici: cuz i really loved that game :>
[19:05] <Pici> mysterycool: Check the appdb.  specific application help in #winehq
[19:05] <ubuntuLOVR> MAGNETRON, thank you I am rebooting now
[19:05] <liran> Hey all
[19:06] <ali1234> i want to try out a newer version of pygame that what is available in the repos. if i install it from source, will it cause problems when i next try to update?
[19:07] <david> argh. installing smplayer installs mplayer (GUI) which overrides smplayer which can't override mplayer :B
[19:07] <ocha> whats the best application for IRC
[19:07] <maximilion_> XChat
[19:07] <Odd-rationale> !best | ocha
[19:07] <ubotu> ocha: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[19:08] <maximilion_> ocha, if you're only on one server, Pidgin is OK, I guess
[19:08] <mysterycool> whats the difference of the Konsole and the shell? None of them is really graphical, I mean you have to write commands anyway :s
[19:08] <maximilion_> (the built in IRC client)
[19:08] <threethirty> hello all what is the command to boot into failsafe x?
[19:08] <liran> each time i want to start my apache server i need to run this cmd:
[19:08] <liran> /usr/local/apache2/bin/apachectl start
[19:08] <liran> how i can make it run on start up ?
[19:09] <HYPOKRIT> Hello... What is the more freindly tool to get remote access to my computer (Ubuntu Gumpsy from  windows)
[19:09] <liran> HYPOKRIT: use xrdp
[19:09] <maximilion_> Heh. Forrest Gumpsy!
[19:09] <ocha> maximillion, im on it now and I don't really like it.  i would likie to get on multiple sever.  if i remember correctly, xchat, i think it's call was good. any other options for irc clients?
[19:10] <maximilion_> ocha, xirc, irssi
[19:10] <HYPOKRIT> Thanx liran
[19:10] <maximilion_> ocha, I come from mIRC, and XChat is like being home again :)
[19:10] <ZeD--> Hello, i have installed Gusty 64Bit on my laptop, after i installed nvidia drivers, i rebooted and got a black screen ... much info online, not resolution ... anyone know what could it be ?
[19:10] <maximilion_> In fact, it has a few nice extras
[19:11] <Slart> ZeD--: tried removing the splash screen?
[19:13] <ZeD--> Slart, not too concerned about the boot ... yea .. i know that issue... dont care much , at gdm / startx all i get is a black screen
[19:13] <maximilion_> ZeD--, I have nvidia, and just selected "generic nvidia 6800" (since it is my card) after install. Did you get drivers from nvidia.com? If so, did you install restricted-xxxxxx in Synaptic? I think it's needed for nonfree drivers
[19:13] <maximilion_> !restricted | ZeD--
[19:13] <ubotu> ZeD--: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[19:13] <ocha> maximilion, whats is there a big difference between xirc and xchat?  is irssi any good?  which one do you use the msot?
[19:13] <ZeD--> yes i have tried both nvidia.com drivers and nvidia-glx-new ( which installes the restricted as a dependency )
[19:13] <ricky_clarkson> irssi is very good.
[19:13] <Slart> maximilion_: restricted drivers and drivers from nvidias site can sometimes conflict.. better to use one or the other
[19:14] <rajasun> so is scrollz
[19:14] <ricky_clarkson> xchat is stupid, because they charge for the Windows build.  That puts me off.
[19:14] <salik> :}
[19:14] <maximilion_> Slart, yeah, I could be wrong
[19:14] <MasterShrak> ricky_clarkson theres a free windows build out there
[19:14] <salik> mIRC runs fine on wine :}
[19:14] <MasterShrak> ricky_clarkson lemme link you, one sec
[19:14] <salik> hello ubuntians
[19:14] <ricky_clarkson> MasterShrak: Yeah, I heard.  I'm used to irssi anyway.
[19:14] <maximilion_> but ZeD-- I would give the generic drivers a shot before trying stuff from nvidia.com since it depends on so many things
[19:15] <MasterShrak> ricky_clarkson http://www.silverex.org/download/
[19:15] <lawl> lawl
[19:15] <salik> Envy works best for all nVIDIA driver issues
[19:15] <lawl> Yeah
[19:15] <lawl> lawl
[19:15] <MasterShrak> !envy | salik
[19:15] <ubotu> salik: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[19:16] <maximilion_> I've tried mIRC, XChat, and Pidgin. Pidgin was no option for me since I need multiple servers. I looked at xirc also, but it seemed like it had a bunch of loose windows, which I didn't want.
[19:16] <maximilion_> that was directed to ocha
[19:16] <lawl> xCHAT is the shit
[19:16] <salik> lol
[19:16] <jpatrick> !ohmy | lawl
[19:16] <MasterShrak> !language | lawl
[19:16] <ubotu> lawl: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[19:16] <neverblue> amen lawl
[19:16] <neverblue> :)
[19:16] <hypn0> maximilion_: pidgin does multiple servers :-)
[19:16] <lawl> !Guidelines
[19:16] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[19:16] <MasterShrak> so does xchat
[19:17] <salik> maximilion_: what's the best client then u've used so far?
[19:17] <lawl> How can I download Unbunto?
[19:17] <lawl> I need to get a linux for my new hdd
[19:17] <jpatrick> !irssi | salik
[19:17] <ubotu> salik: Irssi is a terminal based IRC client. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi for help.
[19:17] <MasterShrak> !download | lawl
[19:17] <ubotu> lawl: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Gutsy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[19:17] <maximilion_> hypn0, well, I had a problem with it. It kept 'not showing its window' when I started it.
[19:17] <salik> ahan
[19:17] <cambazz> is there a mysql package for ubuntu. somehow i can not find it
[19:17] <MasterShrak> !find mysql
[19:17] <mooseman447> whats the best tool to find large files on ubuntu?
[19:17] <maximilion_> lawl, google 'get ubuntu' :P or go to ubuntu.com and download the cd?
[19:17] <ubotu> Found: libapache2-mod-auth-mysql, libdbd-mysql-perl, libmysql-java, postfix-mysql, python-mysqldb (and 91 others)
[19:17] <lawl> :P
[19:17] <lawl> Is unbunto better than debin?
[19:17] <lawl> *debian
[19:18] <MasterShrak> !lamp | cambazz
[19:18] <ubotu> cambazz: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[19:18] <jpatrick> !debian | lawl
[19:18] <ubotu> lawl: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[19:18] <MasterShrak> lawl ubuntu is based on debian
[19:18] <maximilion_> lawl, Ubuntu is based on Debian
[19:18] <lawl> lol
[19:18] <maximilion_> hehe :)
[19:18] <MasterShrak> :)
[19:18] <lawl> ah
[19:18] <salik> :]
[19:18] <lawl> it has a link :D
[19:18] <cambazz> well how do we install it
[19:18] <cambazz> i know i can install it by downloading and doing it manually
[19:18] <cambazz> but the package manager does not seem to have it
[19:19] <maximilion_> Download, mount/burn iso, run from CD, if you like it, install from cd :)
[19:19] <mysterycool> btw, one thing i was always been wondering about, is why do linux use all those commands to run a program? why cant they be like windows or mac that are just download and install from a graphical insterface wizard or something?
[19:19] <jpatrick> !lol | lawl
[19:19] <ubotu> lawl: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[19:19] <yoluca> is there another place from where mplayer read the config files except /home/luca/.mplayer/config ?
[19:19] <MasterShrak> cambazz im not exactly sure what package you need for it
[19:19] <datacop> hi, does anyone know what to do when OO has no window boarders on kubuntu (running compiz)
[19:19] <david08> hello
[19:19] <zblach> quick question. in ubuntu, where is the shared mysql library directory?
[19:19] <yoluca> any config that i add to the mplayer config file it being ignored ... any idea ?
[19:19] <mysterycool> i mean, mac are unix too i think, but they are like 110% graphical :s
[19:19] <cambazz> zblach: how did you install it?
[19:19] <MasterShrak> datacop do other programs have window borders?
[19:19] <david08> my keyboard has forward, back, refresh button for use in internet. how do i configure them?
[19:19] <zblach> cambazz: mysql? sudo apt-get install
[19:19] <lawl> linux is so much more a pain
[19:19] <lawl> than windows
[19:19] <Eckos> how do i change from utc to local in kde?
[19:19] <datacop> MasterShrak jeah, only OO has this problems
[19:20] <MasterShrak> !keys | david08
[19:20] <ubotu> david08: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[19:20] <cambazz> zblack: sudo apt-get install what?
[19:20] <zblach> but i'm writing some UDFs, so i need to add them
[19:20] <maximilion_> ocha, I prefer XChat over mIRC and Pidgin, basically because it's easy to install and has some nice options. Pidgin had some strange scroll thing going, I always had to draw the scrollbar down to bottom :(
[19:20] <cambazz> how can I make a apt-get search
[19:20] <kaoticsnow> After installing Ubuntu server with the LAMP option, whats the default mysql password?
[19:20] <zblach> mysql works fine. i'm just wondering where the shared libraries live
[19:20] <MasterShrak> lawl at first maybe, but when you figure it out, youll think exactly the opposite, and probably to more of an extreme
[19:20] <david08> MasterShrak, thanks, i already tried that and now i will try keytouch
[19:20] <ocha> maxilion, thanks. i think im gonna install xchat again
[19:20] <zblach> cambazz: i got mysql and the C++ mysql devel libraries
[19:20] <maximilion_> ocha,  xirc and irssi, never tried them. It's easy to install and remove stuff, which means it's easy to try stuff out :)
[19:20] <theunixgeek> Anyone use GNUstep? I need help opening Project Builder.  I don't know where it's located.
[19:21] <zblach> and php, and apache, and all that other fun stuff
[19:21] <MasterShrak> cambazz sudo apt-cache search xxxxxxxx
[19:21] <hfmls> btter than aumatix and easyubuntu, does anyone know any appz?
[19:21]  * maximilion_ is away: In the Real World for but a moment.
[19:21] <ocha> maxilion, thanks
[19:22] <MasterShrak> dam java client, backspace goes back in ffox
[19:22] <kaoticsnow> After installing Ubuntu server with the LAMP option, whats the default mysql password?
[19:22] <datacop> maybe admin?
[19:22] <david08> MasterShrak: once i install it, how do i use it?
[19:22] <HYPOKRIT> !!! !!! !!!
[19:23] <MasterShrak> david08 not sure, i have very little mysql experience
[19:23] <jpatrick> HYPOKRIT: pardon?
[19:23] <david08> MasterShrak: i was referring to the keyboard app
[19:23] <kaoticsnow> =(
[19:23] <MasterShrak> HYPOKRIT please do not spam with pointless things
[19:23] <AfroRowan> hey
[19:23] <AfroRowan> help me plz
[19:23] <AfroRowan> when i boot the live CD
[19:23] <HYPOKRIT> haha vos yeule
[19:23] <AfroRowan> i must give a pass and username
[19:24] <MasterShrak> kaoticsnow ask in #mysql maybe
[19:24] <MasterShrak> !enter | AfroRowan
[19:24] <ubotu> AfroRowan: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[19:24] <Pici> !away > maximilion_ (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[19:24] <kaoticsnow> kk,
[19:24] <jpatrick> !fr | HYPOKRIT
[19:24] <ubotu> HYPOKRIT: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[19:24] <AfroRowan> ok
[19:24]  * MasterShrak brb
[19:24] <HYPOKRIT> !burn | jpatrick
[19:25] <ubotu> jpatrick: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus-CD-Burner, GToaster, xcdroast (GNOME), wodim (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[19:25] <adac2> is there a way to boot linux from hard disk while running windows?
[19:25] <Slart> adac2: the whole boot thingy means windows won
[19:25] <AfroRowan> When I boot up the LiveCD everything is allright... but when i press enter, it starts loading and stuff, and then i have to give a username and password to get in ubuntu... But where is the pass ?
[19:25] <HYPOKRIT> Okay sorry.... i just got disconnected from the real world..... Pardon me !
[19:25] <Slart> wont be running
[19:26] <simlt__> !it
[19:26] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[19:26] <hfmls> what is to you guys the best theme for ubuntu ?
[19:26] <LukeLM> KDE :P
[19:26] <Slart> adac2: or you meant install from windows? in that case there's wubi
[19:26] <|c4|> anyone know how to track an ip from an e-mail address?
[19:26] <hfmls> how can i make all clear type
[19:26] <Slart> !best | hfmls
[19:26] <ubotu> hfmls: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[19:26] <erUSUL> !best | hfmls and even more so for a theme
[19:26] <ubotu> hfmls and even more so for a theme: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[19:26] <AfroRowan> When I boot up the LiveCD everything is allright... but when i press enter, it starts loading and stuff, and then i have to give a username and password to get in ubuntu... But where is the pass ?
[19:27] <pocketdrummer> Does mplayer always stretch 4:3 videos?
[19:27] <hfmls> ok
[19:27] <MasterShrak> AfroRowan you shouldnt need a username and password, generally it just loads to a desktop
[19:27] <hfmls> how can i make all clear type
[19:27] <AfroRowan> i have a notebook
[19:27] <MasterShrak> AfroRowan that doesnt matter
[19:27] <AfroRowan> ok
[19:28] <MasterShrak> AfroRowan try user: ubuntu   and a blank password, if not use ubuntu as a password (im just guessing at this)
[19:28] <AfroRowan> but why does it keep asking for password... is it maybe that i burnt the iso to a RW ?
[19:28] <david08> how do i edit firefox keyboard shortcuts?
[19:28] <tknudsen> It seems like most linux users are still package users and don't build stuff from source.  Fedora and Ubuntu have script-kiddy docs wherever I look.  FreeBSD let me do what I want, but I have to use the linux kernel for work...
[19:28] <MasterShrak> AfroRowan no, it shouldnt be asking for a password, just leave it blank
[19:28] <AfroRowan> already tried that combo's
[19:28] <AfroRowan> with ubuntu and root and toor and sumo
[19:29] <mahmoud2> tknudsen: you can build yourself from source ..
[19:29] <AfroRowan> now what ? :o
[19:29] <hfmls> guys, sorry to be a pain ;) bu,how can i use hdmi with audio, so i can use my hdmi output to my hdtv.
[19:29] <MasterShrak> tknudsen ubuntu is not really the distro to use if you like to compile alot of stuff from source, slackware or gentoo would probably be better choices
[19:29] <Geoffrey2> AfroRowan: if you're talking about installing ubuntu, obviously then you need to create a username and password for yourself
[19:30] <vipaca> Hello all Im having trouble doing apt-get through http proxy?
[19:30] <HYPOKRIT> Enter you username
[19:30] <HYPOKRIT> and your password
[19:30] <vipaca> Is there any trick here?
[19:30] <mysterycool> >.>
[19:30] <AfroRowan> no i just want to boot up ubuntu but it asks for a pass
[19:30] <tknudsen> thanks, people.  cheers
[19:30] <mahmoud2> AfroRowan: you are probably not booting from CD
[19:30] <Diville> Hi - Im going to be a new user to Ubuntu - Does anyone know anything about WLAN card drivers?
[19:30] <AfroRowan> no not a CD
[19:30] <AfroRowan> a CD-RW
[19:30] <AfroRowan> lol
[19:31] <liran> how do i extract tar.bz2 files
[19:31] <HYPOKRIT> ..... Can grub have a password
[19:31] <erUSUL> HYPOKRIT: yes
[19:31] <hanasaki> what is the menu item in gnome that does vnc client?
[19:31] <MasterShrak> Diville yes i konw some, depends on the subsystem of the card more than anything
[19:31] <mysterycool> i am new on linux. do .deb programs need to be compiled?
[19:31] <|c4|> i need some advice on tracking an ip address. if someone can help, please do.
[19:31] <liran> how do i extract tar.bz2 files
[19:31] <HYPOKRIT> did grub have a default password
[19:31] <MasterShrak> mysterycool no, sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[19:31] <datacop> short question: whats the default window manager of KDE
[19:31] <Diville> Great - The problem i have is im using an Asus 802.11b/g WLAN card, which for some reason, doesnt appear to be a specific model.
[19:31] <MasterShrak> liran bunzip2 file.tar.bz2      followed by: tar -xf file.tar
[19:31] <mahmoud2> mysterycool: no .. they are packages .. just double click on them to install
[19:31] <mysterycool> masterShrak: ty :)
[19:32] <mysterycool> thanks :)
[19:32] <AfroRowan> |c4| try Linux BackTrack2 (search on google)
[19:32] <Geoffrey2> liran tar -xvf package name
[19:32] <MasterShrak> datacop kde-window-decorator
[19:32] <datacop> ah ok, thanks
[19:32] <Diville> I have had problems finding drivers in the past, but for Linux and especially Ubuntu, it seems harder than before as on the site it claims there can be problems compiling
[19:32] <|c4|> kk ty
[19:32] <AfroRowan> but there is nothing anybody can do bout my pass problem
[19:33] <Diville> What id like to know is if there is a generic WLAN driver than would cover the Asus cards for Ubuntu really
[19:33] <hanasaki> what program is the vncview from gnome?
[19:33] <AfroRowan> oh and |c4| this site will b helpful too   geotool.servehttp.com
[19:33] <NigelS> AfroRowan: the live cd shouldn't be asking for a pw - where did you get the img from?
[19:33] <AfroRowan> binaries
[19:33] <AfroRowan> could that b it ?
[19:33] <|c4|> thanks AfroRowan
[19:33] <NigelS> AfroRowan: ... where did you obtain the iso that you burned
[19:33] <MasterShrak> Diville its not an Asus card, Asus is the laptop model, you need to know what kind of card is in it
[19:33] <AfroRowan> BINARIES...
[19:34] <AfroRowan> newsservers
[19:34] <yoluca> ubuntu mplayer package its fucked up
[19:34] <david08> does anyone know how to change the firefox keyboard shortcuts?
[19:34] <Diville> Nah, my PC is custom built by myself, im familar with Windows, but this card i bought on its own.
[19:34] <jpatrick> !ohmy | yoluca
[19:34] <MasterShrak> !download | AfroRowan
[19:34] <ubotu> yoluca: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[19:34] <ubotu> AfroRowan: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Gutsy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[19:34] <salik> Is there an alternate for ntlmaps as a solution for isa client?
[19:34] <yoluca> yeah yeah
[19:34] <NigelS> AfroRowan: binaries is not an answer - you mean usenet?
[19:34] <MasterShrak> !medibuntu | yoluca
[19:34] <ubotu> yoluca: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[19:34] <AfroRowan> yes
[19:34] <AfroRowan> lol
[19:35] <NigelS> AfroRowan: either md5sum the img from canonical or get it from a trustworthy source i.e. the main ubuntu site
[19:35] <pocketdrummer> Is there a video format converter?
[19:35] <Diville> There are even WLAN drivers on the ASUS website, but for one reason or another, the 802.11b/g isnt covered.
[19:35] <AfroRowan> omg... didnt get what you just said (im dutch)
[19:35] <MasterShrak> Diville you are missing the point
[19:35] <salik> Is there an alternate for ntlmaps as a solution for isa client?
[19:36] <SigmundFraud> If the NDISWrapper card list doesn't have the particular chipset I'm looking for, does it mean that NDIS definitely won't work for it?
[19:36] <Diville> Im sorry?
[19:36] <HYPOKRIT> Vie bitte
[19:36] <ikonia> !de | HYPOKRIT
[19:36] <ubotu> HYPOKRIT: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[19:36] <Shuggle> Is it possible to set up a boot partition so that I would not lose grub if I deleted ubuntu?
[19:36] <NigelS> AfroRowan: make sure the iso is legitimate - so get it from ubuntu.com not usenet
[19:36] <AfroRowan> okay
[19:36] <AfroRowan> !nl | AfroRowan
[19:36] <ikonia> Shuggle: grub goes on the mbr - not the boot partition
[19:36] <NigelS> Shuggle: yes, just create  apartition and mount it as boot
[19:37] <Shuggle> Thanks. How large would it need to be?
[19:37] <MasterShrak> Shuggle no more than a gig probably
[19:37] <ikonia> Shuggle: 200 meg - keep in mind grub does not live on /boot
[19:37] <NigelS> ikonia: though he would lose any ability to then retain settings
[19:37] <AfroRowan> thx ppl... cu l8er
[19:37] <ikonia> NigelS: totally, grub would not work anyway as menu.lst would be gone
[19:37] <NigelS> ikonia: yes
[19:37] <AfroRowan> (i dont hope i see you later b/c it means it will go wrong again lol)
[19:37] <salik> lol
[19:38] <AfroRowan> bye
[19:38] <hfmls> guys
[19:38] <salik> is there an alternate to ntlmaps as a solution for isa client?
[19:38] <hfmls> any1
[19:38] <NigelS> Shuggle: boot doesn't need to be very big - the biggest files  on the boot are likely to be the kernel images - and the way ubuntu obtains them, it can fill up quite quickly but you can always delete older ones
[19:38] <ikonia> hfmls: anyone what ?
[19:38] <Shuggle> can the partition be logical, or does it need to be a primary one?
[19:38] <hfmls> how can i use hdmi , so i can use my hdmi output to my hdtv.
[19:38] <ikonia> Shuggle: anything
[19:39] <hfmls> laptop, intel onboard
[19:39] <ikonia> hfmls: just treat is as a DVI port
[19:39] <hfmls> dunno how to do it :S and and audio ?
[19:40] <Diville> If i have the 64bit version of Ubuntu, does that mean x86 drivers wont work? ie. Graphics..
[19:40] <liran> just finished install mysql server on my ubuntu
[19:40] <liran> and i cant connet
[19:40] <liran> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2)
[19:40] <hfmls> it possible to use windows drivers, with hdmi?
[19:40] <liran> i dont know why
[19:40] <vipaca> how do I specify a dns server?
[19:40] <ikonia> hfmls: no
[19:40] <ikonia> vipaca: /etc/resolv.conf
[19:40] <hfmls> damn :|
[19:40] <liran> anyone ??????????????????
[19:41] <ikonia> hfmls: you don't need drivers
[19:41] <hfmls> oh, ok.
[19:41] <hfmls> :)
[19:41] <lordleemo> anyone got a good tut for installing and running bind9 on gutsy?
[19:41] <Flare183> !anyone > hfmls
[19:41] <hfmls> so, can i use hdmi , video + audio  with ubuntu ?
[19:41] <ikonia> hfmls: yup
[19:41] <pocketdrummer> What are the i8xx and i9xx display drivers for? I have them installed for some reason, but I'm using an nVidia 7800GT. Do I need those drivers?
[19:42] <hfmls> well..can u tell me how ikonia  ?
[19:42] <ikonia> lordleemo: what do you want to do with bind ?
[19:42] <diegovigo> we are 1213 people
[19:42] <diegovigo> XD
[19:42] <mjw-> pocketdrummer by default ubuntu installs most of the X.org servers/drivers
[19:42] <aboucher> hey guys i have a question
[19:42] <ikonia> hfmls: for the video you just need to change the pci id in xorg.conf to be the correct output for the hdmi port
[19:42] <mjw-> !justask > aboucher
[19:42] <HYPOKRIT> vos y mon gars pose la ta question
[19:42] <lordleemo> ikonia: hi mate ive installed it and buggered it up 3 times i need to run it rather than simple dns
[19:42] <pocketdrummer> mjw-: so, should I go ahead and update them?
[19:42] <jpatrick> !en | HYPOKRIT
[19:42] <ubotu> HYPOKRIT: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[19:43] <L3ttuc3> i tried installing xserver-xgl as a fix for jerky videos as advised in #compiz, didn't like it, uninstalled it, and since then, nautilus no longer displays icons on my desktop, and in fact, the desktop background no longer accepts clicks, or right-clicks, or even drag and drop. how do i re-enable all that?
[19:43] <ikonia> lordleemo: but what do you want to do with it ?
[19:43] <mjw-> it can't hurt...you could uninstall them too, but unless you're hard up for space it's not necessary
[19:43] <aboucher> how do i run ie in edubuntu 7.10 using wine?
[19:43] <hfmls> damn i was talking to a bot
[19:43] <mysterycool> whats the command to stop all downloads?
[19:43] <hfmls> lol
[19:43] <lordleemo> ikonia: run my own dns mate
[19:43] <mysterycool> whats the command to stop all downloads?
[19:43] <HYPOKRIT> mysterycool  reboot
[19:43] <ikonia> lordleemo: you know you need multiple dns servers to to meet the DNS RFC's
[19:44] <ikonia> mysterycool: ignore that
[19:44] <ikonia> HYPOKRIT: don't troll
[19:44] <hfmls> ikonia, and audio?
[19:44] <w5> mesra.dal.net 7000
[19:44] <ikonia> hfmls: same principal, you need to point alsa at the audio device for the hdmi port, that part I've not done myself but it is do-able
[19:44] <lordleemo> ikonia: i have them m8 before i was on simple dns windows now im totally linux but cant get it working
[19:44] <hfmls> i'm new to ubuntu, i don't even know where is xorg.conf
[19:44] <prince_jammys> !repeat | mysterycool
[19:44] <ubotu> mysterycool: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[19:44] <Odd-rationale> hfmls: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:45] <aboucher> does anyone know how to run internet explorer using wine
[19:45] <hfmls> thank you.
[19:45] <ikonia> lordleemo: the oreilly bind book will guide you, it's excellent.
[19:45] <hfmls> Odd-rationale,
[19:45] <yoluca> how do i make a symlink ?
[19:45] <ikonia> hfmls: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:45] <ikonia> yoluca: ln -s
[19:45] <Odd-rationale> yoluca: ln -s
[19:45] <prince_jammys> yoluca:  ln -s   original_file    link_name
[19:45] <yoluca> thanks
[19:45] <lordleemo> ikonia: i just need a good tut  for ubuntu
[19:45] <ikonia> lordleemo: the bind book will guide you
[19:45] <ZeD--> ah .. no resolutions on the net for 64bit and nvidia at the same time wow ... this is a big bug
[19:45] <prince_jammys> yoluca: original_file can be a directory
[19:45] <Odd-rationale> hfmls: np. You be learning a lot. Have fun!
[19:45] <ikonia> lordleemo: you've got to keep on top of bind to administrate it to stop people hacking it and blacklisting it
[19:45] <NigelS> mysterycool: what downloads are you talking about? using what software?
[19:46] <sled> hello
[19:46] <prince_jammys> yoluca: -s makes it a symlink
[19:46] <lordleemo> ikonia: ok m8 ill have another look cheers pal
[19:46] <ikonia> lordleemo: it's a quality book, I use it as a reference on a daily basis.
[19:46] <yoluca> prince_jammys thanks ... but it also can be a file right ?
[19:46] <ikonia> lordleemo: best $25 you'll spend.
[19:46] <prince_jammys> yoluca: certainly
[19:46] <mysterycool> >.>
[19:46] <hfmls> ikonia,  can u help me d that? in xorg.conf?
[19:46] <sled> why does my mouse cursor look very strang on my second screen? it's like a rectangle....
[19:46] <yoluca> ln -s /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-dejavu/DejaVuSans-Bold.ttf ~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf like this ?
[19:47] <lordleemo> ikonia: cheers ive never used bind before thats my problem ill check it out thanks
[19:47] <ikonia> hfmls: what part of it ?
[19:47] <natlinuxnewb> hi all
[19:47] <liran> how do i stop and start mysql server ???????????????/
[19:47] <prince_jammys> yoluca: warning:: while deleting link_name will NOT delete original,,, changing link_name WILL change original
[19:47] <ikonia> lordleemo: if you've never used it, that book is a MUST, it will give you the basics, but take you through to more advanced and seucirty topics
[19:47] <MasterShrak> liran sudo /etc/init.d/mysql <start/stop/restart>
[19:47] <hfmls> audio and video.
[19:47] <hfmls> i opened xorgconf with gedit
[19:48] <natlinuxnewb> I only have terminal gparted. I dont know the commands very well. How can I see what partitions I have in 5.04?
[19:48] <lordleemo> ikonia: chhers pal everthing is good to go just not my bleedin dns
[19:48] <MasterShrak> 5.04...
[19:48] <yoluca> prince_jammys, ln: creating symbolic link `/home/luca/.mplayer/subfont.ttf' to `/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-dejavu/DejaVuSans-Bold.ttf': File exists
[19:48] <mysterycool> vista have like a tone of things copied from ubuntu
[19:48] <ikonia> hfmls: just open system --> administration --> screens and graphics
[19:48] <MasterShrak> natlinuxnewb sudo fdisk -l
[19:48] <yoluca> prince_jammys,  i want to make it different ... i want DejaVuSans-Bold.ttf to be linked in subfont.ttf
[19:49] <natlinuxnewb> MasterShrak, Yes 5.04. I'm trying to update to 7.10 but I have no CD.
[19:49] <hfmls> yes
[19:49] <prince_jammys> yoluca: link_name should not already exist, you are creating it with the command .... if a file with link_name exists, then you will get an error
[19:49] <natlinuxnewb> MasterShrak, thanx
[19:49] <ompaul> natlinuxnewb, get the CD it will die on you
[19:49] <prince_jammys> yoluca: you want a file with two different names, correct?
[19:49] <MasterShrak> natlinuxnewb to upgrade to 7.10, youll have to go to 6.06 then 6.10 then 7.04 then 7.10, your install will almost certainly break, i suggest a backup and reinstall
[19:49] <natlinuxnewb> ompaul,  Sorry I meant no CD drive. I tried a Net install last night
[19:49] <ompaul> natlinuxnewb, buy a mag get a cd burnt by a pal whatever
[19:50] <liran> ANYONE PLZ HELP
[19:50] <liran> i cant run my  MYSQL SERVER
[19:50] <yoluca> prince_jammys i just want to replace the mplayer fonts
[19:50] <liran> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2)
[19:50] <hfmls> opened ikonia
[19:50] <liran> all the time getting this
[19:50] <liran> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2)
[19:50] <MasterShrak> liran ask in #mysql
[19:50] <ompaul> !repeat | liran
[19:50] <ubotu> liran: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[19:50] <natlinuxnewb> MasterShrak, I dont want to upgrade. I want to completly reinstall.
[19:50] <leeping> Hey there, my Debian operating system is not recognizing my SATA hard drive.  Can someone help out?
[19:50] <MasterShrak> natlinuxnewb ic
[19:50] <MasterShrak> !install | natlinuxnewb
[19:50] <ubotu> natlinuxnewb: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[19:51] <MasterShrak> leeping ask in #debian
[19:51] <leeping> Thanks, Shrak
[19:51] <prince_jammys> yoluca: you want subfont to be the same as DejaVu,,, so that whenever subfont is called, it refers to DejaVu, correct?
[19:51] <L3ttuc3> whenever i log on, i get a message box telling me that pc101 us keyboard setting was exptected, but pc 105 us was found instead, then i get the choice of using x settings or using gnome settings. having a look at the keyboard settings in both GNOME and xorg.conf show that im actually using pc105. why am i getting the message?
[19:52] <vipaca> I got this error when doing apt-get update
[19:52] <vipaca> W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security Release: Unknown error executing gpgv
[19:52] <L3ttuc3> this only happens on the current account. log-in using a different account does not give me that problem.
[19:52] <vipaca> W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security Release: Unknown error executing gpgv
[19:52] <Friez> hi everyone
[19:52] <MasterShrak> !gpg | vipaca
[19:52] <ubotu> vipaca: gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[19:52]  * MasterShrak is out
[19:52] <MasterShrak> laterz
[19:52] <Lifeisfunny> Is there a list available somewhere that verifies updates?   I'm wondering why a few moments ago I got a package for an Intel update when I have an AMD cpu and a nvidia graphics card.
[19:53] <yoluca> prince_jammys correct .. i just deleted subfont , then made the link , then rename dejavu to subfont ... done
[19:53] <karin> anyone know a good webcam app, to take pictures with?
[19:53] <prince_jammys> yoluca: yes, thats the way
[19:53] <yoluca> prince_jammys, thanks for your help
[19:53] <prince_jammys> yoluca yw
[19:54] <Friez> i folow a tutorial to configure mysql i forgot the password
[19:54] <prince_jammys> yoluca: i don't know about the renaming bit, but if it works, ok
[19:54] <Friez> how to change it ?
[19:54] <Friez> this the command mysqladmin -u root password 's33kret'
[19:54] <hfmls> how can i use hdmi , video + audio  with ubuntu ?
[19:54] <rajasun> karin: Try cheese. Enable the universe repo, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install cheese
[19:55] <prince_jammys> Friez: try msqladmin -u root -p    <enter>and then the password
[19:55] <Friez> just chage password s33kret to other password
[19:55] <prince_jammys> Friez: oh sorry, ok
[19:55] <karin> thx rajasun
[19:55] <rajasun> karin: np
[19:56] <prince_jammys> Friez what i said doesnt change it, it just logs you in --- misread the question
[19:56] <natlinuxnewb> What do I do with a .deb file? How do I install it? I've downloaded a partition program
[19:56] <hfmls> ikonia,  seems to be away, how can i use hdmi guys ?
[19:56] <Odd-rationale> natlinuxnewb: Double-click
[19:56] <natlinuxnewb> then what?
[19:57] <prince_jammys> natlinuxnewb: to install deb:::    sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[19:57] <Friez> ok
[19:57] <Odd-rationale> natlinuxnewb: Select install.
[19:57] <natlinuxnewb> thanx prince
[19:57] <DigiMasTer> hey
[19:57] <mjw-> natlinuxnewb try to stick with stuff in the repositories though.
[19:57] <DigiMasTer> my new script http://rs97.rapidshare.com/files/91484126/mirc.zip
[19:57] <DigiMasTer> my new script http://rs97.rapidshare.com/files/91484126/mirc.zip
[19:57] <Friez> what i have to do to change password ?
[19:57] <DigiMasTer> :D
[19:57] <DigiMasTer> my new script http://rs97.rapidshare.com/files/91484126/mirc.zip
[19:57] <prince_jammys> natlinuxnewb: or do it in GUI as Odd-rationale says
[19:58] <prince_jammys> Friez: try #mysql -- i forgot how to do it
[19:58] <Friez> ok thx prince_jammys
[19:58] <pocketdrummer> Does mplayer stretch the video for anyone else? Or is there something wrong?
[19:59] <Shuggle> are the restricted nvidia drivers installed through the package manager the same ones as nvidia releases? (up to date?)
[19:59] <Jowi> pocketdrummer, only if the vid has got the wrong aspect ratio.
[19:59] <rajasun> careful guys with unknown, unfamiliar ursl/links floated about in any channel. Do NOT visit or download antyhing you haven't a clue to. Same goes for any random commands from other users, double check for what they actually do 1st.
[20:00] <evil_tech> anyone know of good open source voice recognition and translation software?
[20:00] <pocketdrummer> jowi: Well, totem plays it properly (4:3), but mplayer doesn't. It's like it's putting it in 16:10 or so.
[20:00] <taz> how do u download ubuntu 7.10 to cd?? i
[20:00] <scunizi> I just turned on the restricted graphics driver for nvidia. After log-in my screen goes black. What's the fix?
[20:00] <prince_jammys> lol, guy is posting executable .exe, no documentation -- yeah let me run it
[20:00] <prince_jammys> .exe of all things
[20:00] <Jowi> pocketdrummer, you can try "-zoom yes"
[20:00] <Odd-rationale> !burn | taz
[20:00] <ubotu> taz: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus-CD-Burner, GToaster, xcdroast (GNOME), wodim (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[20:01] <pocketdrummer> jowi: where do I put that?
[20:01] <mike16> i have a quck question, is there anyway to make a wyse winterm remote desktop into ubuntu, i know its a bit farfetched but just curious
[20:01] <mjw-> !install > taz
[20:01] <Jowi> pocketdrummer, you also have "-aspect 16:9" (or 4:3) and "-monitoraspect 4:3"
[20:01] <Jowi> pocketdrummer, on the command line
[20:02] <natlinuxnewb> c u soon
[20:03] <scunizi>  /help window
[20:03] <pocketdrummer> What about the "available drivers". Which should I use with an nVidia 7800Gt?
[20:03] <taz> yes i have [WWW] Infra Recorder for in other window xp  ..  when i download which should i save run ??
[20:03] <karin> how do I install video4linux?
[20:03] <taz> save or run
[20:03] <karin> or get a driver for my webcam...
[20:04] <mjw-> taz: what is your native language?
[20:04] <taz> american
[20:04] <_nando> karin: http://mxhaard.free.fr
[20:04] <mjw-> lol
[20:04] <Jowi> pocketdrummer, are you using gmplayer (or mplayer-gui as it is sometimes called) or mplayer?
[20:05] <Lifeisfunny> I lost my flash player watching a youtube, is there a quick remedy?
[20:05] <mjw-> Lifeisfunny have you tried restarting the browser?
[20:05] <Lifeisfunny> mjgoins,  yes
[20:05] <scunizi> how do I fix a black screen after enabling the nvidia restriced drivers?
[20:05] <pocketdrummer> jowi: It's just the one labeled "mplayer" in synaptic.
[20:06] <Lifeisfunny> mjw,  yes
[20:06] <mjw-> Lifeisfunny and what happens if you try to watch something on youtube?
[20:06] <L3ttuc3> whenever i log on, i get a message box telling me that pc101 us keyboard setting was exptected, but pc 105 us was found instead, then i get the choice of using x settings or using gnome settings. having a look at the keyboard settings in both GNOME and xorg.conf show that im actually using pc105. why am i getting the message? i only get this on my current account. if i log in with a different account, it's fine.
[20:06] <lapsey> Hi. Ubuntu keeps crashing with kernel panic. How do I go back to a previous kernel?
[20:06] <Lifeisfunny> mjw-, I get the page but no video box
[20:06] <L3ttuc3> if i look, xorg.cong has pc105 in it, and so does GNOME's config. i dont know why X expects me to have a pc101 keyboar.
[20:07] <taz> im wondering right one www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download   ???
[20:07] <Cew27> hey everyone just wondering what are you views on open suse ???????
[20:07] <mjw-> !off-topic > Cew27
[20:07] <jeffMASTERflex> !ot | Cew27
[20:07] <ubotu> Cew27: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:07] <Cew27> oh
[20:07] <Cew27> sorry
[20:08] <Jowi> pocketdrummer, you have a lot of options to chose from. if you use "mplayer -zoom -fs filename.avi" does it scale correctly?
[20:08] <lapsey> Ubuntu keeps crashing with kernel panic on startup. How do I use a different kernel, as I dont want ot have to wipe my installation
[20:09] <Lifeisfunny> mjw-, would that dpkg reconfigure command do anything?  I've fixed something in the past with that, not sure if it was of video origin though
[20:09] <mjw-> Lifeisfunny in a terminal, try sudo apt-get remove gnash; sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-nonfree; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[20:09] <mjw-> Lifeisfunny that resolves every possible issue that I can think of that's fairly common
[20:10] <mjw-> Lifeisfunny just make sure your web browsers are closed when you do all that
[20:10] <Lifeisfunny> mjw-, ok, but I don't have gnash installed that I know of
[20:10] <mjw-> Lifeisfunny it sometimes sneaks in ;)...it doesn't hurt to make sure it's not there
[20:12] <taz> im look for intnernet and what website?? to get download ubuntu 7.10 ???
[20:12] <Pici> taz: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[20:12] <prince_jammys> !download
[20:12] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Gutsy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[20:12] <lollo> auauauauauau
[20:12] <pike_> lapsey: in the grub menu you should have your old kernels just hit esc at boottup to access the menu
[20:12] <taz> ok im going now
[20:13] <lapsey> pike_: I don't :| where are the kernels stored? I can edit grub by hand
[20:13] <Lifeisfunny> mjw-,   here's what returned....    'Package gnash is not installed, so not removed'         'E: Invalid operation flashplugin-nonfree'     'flashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version.'
[20:14] <prince_jammys> Lifeisfunny: apt-get remove --purge       <-- i think is the syntax
[20:14] <hwilde> hey I upgraded to 7.10 with the Update Manager and it broke all my fonts they are just blackboxes!!
[20:14] <ompaul> lollo, ?
[20:14] <mjw-> prince_jammys: indeed, shame on me
[20:14] <Lifeisfunny> prince_jammys, on what package?
[20:14] <prince_jammys> Lifeisfunny: was wondering earlier when i read the post
[20:14] <prince_jammys> Lifeisfunny: the purge
[20:14] <mjw-> prince_jammys although sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-nonfree just worked here when I tried it
[20:15] <pocketdrummer> Jowi: It looks the same I think. This is what it says when I run that, "Movie-Aspect is 1.19:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect.
[20:15] <pocketdrummer> VO: [xv] 320x240 => 320x270 Planar YV12  [fs] [zoom]"
[20:15] <Lifeisfunny> purge what?
[20:15] <dooglio> hi guys--anyone having trouble with vim on amd gutsy?
[20:15] <prince_jammys> Lifeisfunny: arent you purging something ?
[20:15] <killux> is it better to install video card drivers right off nvidia's website or through something like Envy, i have the 8600GT
[20:15] <taz> now it show me website with download ... alreqdy i click dot  on 7.10  .. should mark in the box ?? for check here if u need the alternate destop. cd this do dose not include the live cd .. instead it used a testbased installer ?????
[20:15] <mjw-> prince_jammys she's having flash issues
[20:15] <dooglio> i try to run vim and i get: libgio-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file
[20:15] <prince_jammys> mjw-: wasnt sure, figured he'd come back with an error if there's a problem
[20:15] <Jowi> pocketdrummer, how about "mplayer -zoom -aspect 4:3 filename"
[20:16] <lapsey> pike_: i think I found it in /boot , but there is only one 2.6.22-14-generic
[20:16] <dooglio> i searched on packages.ubuntu.com and found that libgio is under hardy, but not gutsy
[20:16] <mysterycool> g2g to the bath then dinner so cya in a bit guyz! ;)
[20:16] <taz> u know box.. put mark into square
[20:16] <Lifeisfunny> mjw-, ahem, psst, he's
[20:16] <mjw-> *cough*
[20:16] <Lifeisfunny> :)
[20:16] <lapsey> does anyone know how I can get a different kernel onto a crashed system without reinstalling?
[20:17] <prince_jammys> mjw-: Lifeisfunnyhaha  i was talking strictly about the "purge" command and how to construct it, i know nothing about flash
[20:17] <Lifeisfunny> I'll put purge in with gnash too just for fun
[20:17] <taz> start download.. which should i click to save OR run ????????
[20:17] <pocketdrummer> Jowi: wow, that's actually stretched more... That doesn't make sense...
[20:17] <Jowi> pocketdrummer, how about "mplayer -zoom -aspect 16:9 filename"
[20:18] <hfmls> how can i use hdmi guys ?
[20:18] <hwilde> hey I upgraded to 7.10 with the Update Manager and it broke all my fonts they are just blackboxes!!
[20:18] <killux> is it better to install video card drivers right off nvidia's website or through something like Envy, i have the 8600GT? anyone?
[20:18] <mjw-> !envy | killux
[20:18] <ubotu> killux: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[20:18] <prince_jammys> killux: !envy
[20:18] <pocketdrummer> Jowi: REALLY stretched.
[20:18] <UBeavUNTU> hi folks =)
[20:18] <prince_jammys> killux: neither -- get from apt
[20:18] <dooglio> hah! never mind...i had something dodgy in my ld.so.conf file :-)
[20:18] <killux> is the restricted manager take the drivers right on nvidia's website?
[20:19] <Lifeisfunny> mjw-, ok, I got a whole different process this time, but it reads,   Download done. md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz The Flash plugin is NOT installed.
[20:19] <Jowi> pocketdrummer, ok, so the vid you are trying to watch is a bit strange.
[20:19] <evil_tech> anyone know of any good speech to text software for linux
[20:19] <UBeavUNTU> anyone able to help me with trying to resurrect a seemingly not so dead hdd?
[20:19] <Pici> Lifeisfunny: Make sure that the gutsy backports and updates repositories are enabled.
[20:19] <Lifeisfunny> ok
[20:20] <pocketdrummer> Jowi: It says it's 320x240 (codec: mpeg-1)
[20:20] <prince_jammys> !nvidia | killux
[20:20] <ubotu> killux: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[20:20] <mjw-> Lifeisfunny and make sure to run sudo apt-get update before trying to install it again.
[20:20] <Geoffrey2> is there any easy way to determine the version of an installed plugin?
[20:20] <maximilion_> pocketdrummer, what app are you using to play videos?
[20:20] <Tomi> good evening
[20:21] <maximilion_> hey Tomi, Finnish? :)
[20:21] <pocketdrummer> maximilion_: mplayer
[20:21] <mad_max02> is there any changelist for hardy ??
[20:21] <astabeno> I'm running Hardy Alpha 4 in a VMWare Virtual machine and have the VMWare tools installed.  After I open the vmware-toolbox, it runs perfectly for about 15 to 20 minutes and then the tools close.  I can open them back up and everythings is fine but it closes again after 20 minutes or so.  Is this a Hardy problem or a VMware problem?
[20:21] <aguitel> when i open aplication ,there is no icon in the title bar ,anyone know about this?
[20:21] <Pici> !hardy | astabeno
[20:21] <ubotu> astabeno: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[20:21] <Tomi> finish?
[20:21] <maximilion_> pocketdrummer, I use VLC, works fine here and you can set ratio.
[20:21] <Lifeisfunny> mjw-, ok
[20:21] <mad_max02> ?
[20:21] <Tomi> why?
[20:21] <pocketdrummer> Totem works in the correct aspet ratio, and I believe VLC does too, but both have problems with fast forwarding through the video, and VLC refuses to play it :_(
[20:21] <maximilion_> astabeno, sounds like an Alpha version problem ,)
[20:21] <mjw-> Lifeisfunny the md5sum mismatch was a problem a few weeks back but should not be popping up anymore
[20:22] <killux> prince_jammys: i understand but does the restricted driver manager install the same binaric drivers as this : http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_169.09.html
[20:22] <mjw-> killux: restricted drivers = nvidia's proprietary drivers
[20:22] <hfmls> ikonia,  are u there?
[20:22] <maximilion_> pocketdrummer, strange. VLC plays old muppet show clips from 2000 and the latest vids.
[20:22] <prince_jammys> killux: i don't know
[20:22] <killux> mjw-: thank you
[20:23] <hfmls> in 1220 no one helps :) damn ....how can i use hdmi guys ?
[20:23] <maximilion_> Tomi, "Tommi" is a common name in .fi :)
[20:23] <Nibblyn> L3ttuc3: thanks for the url!
[20:23] <Tomi> no I'm hungarian
[20:23] <pocketdrummer> maximilion_: Yeah, usually it works, but this one just stops 1 second into it and stays there.
[20:23] <maximilion_> Tomi, yeah I saw that :)
[20:23] <L3ttuc3> Nibblyn not sure that will fix your brand of the problem. i've read about a few different ones, and im not sure where mine ends up either.
[20:23] <Jowi> pocketdrummer, 1.19:1 is called "movietone" apparently. 35mm used in late 1920-1930.
[20:24] <Tomi> Hungarian isnt Finn
[20:24] <maximilion_> pocketdrummer, well I think it is more about player compatibility than any setting. I'm not the right person to ask, all the vids that worked in XP worked in Linux :P
[20:24] <Tomi> :)
[20:24] <vipaca> Im working with a box that has no video output
[20:24] <Tomi> :)
[20:24] <maximilion_> Tomi, no it isn't - but I didn't take a /whois before I said that ;)
[20:24] <vipaca> what do I have to do get vncserver
[20:24] <vipaca> and kde
[20:24] <Jowi> pocketdrummer, try "mplayer -zoom -aspect 1.19:1 filename"
[20:24] <pocketdrummer> jowi: That's weird.
[20:24] <v_sec> anyone up for helping with the god awful problem of gutsy + compiz + update = no window borders
[20:24] <vipaca> or should this be out of the box
[20:24] <davmonster> Hi, I have a question.. how do I upgrade to the lastest version of a package?
[20:24] <Nibblyn> L3ttuc3: as i said... i'm a newbie, everything is wellcomed :) indeed the keyboard is working fine :)
[20:25] <Tomi> funny man...
[20:25] <Tomi> :)
[20:25] <maximilion_> v_sec, I've heard that problem before, the guy on the forum said he liked no borders :)
[20:25] <TheArthur> vipaca,  settings->preferences->remote desktop
[20:25] <Tomi> I have a problem
[20:25] <L3ttuc3> Nibblyn well, good for you. i still suspect i might find my problem recurs at the next login. :/
[20:25] <davmonster> I know apt-get update updates everything
[20:25] <davmonster> but for some reason it's not actually updating this package that I want it to
[20:25] <vipaca> theArthur I have no display
[20:25] <tek-ops> Hey all
[20:26] <ph0rensic> davmonster: update just updates your sources list with any new packages that have been added
[20:26] <pocketdrummer> Jowi: it says, "Error parsing option on the command line: -aspect"
[20:26] <TheArthur> vipaca,  vnspasswd
[20:26] <mjw-> davmonster there may be no newer version in the repositories
[20:26] <Tomi> the translation
[20:26] <TheArthur> snvpasswd
[20:26] <Tomi> ;-)
[20:26] <mjw-> davmonster what package is it?
[20:26] <vipaca> TheArthur what are you talking about?
[20:26] <v_sec> maximilion_: haha, well it switches every other day it seems- one day i have none, the next I have fully transparent ones, but in the end i just keep reverting to metacity --replace
[20:26] <maximilion_> Tomi, no magyar?
[20:26] <davmonster> sorry I meant upgrade
[20:26] <TheArthur> you can start the server manually
[20:26] <davmonster> not update
[20:26] <Tomi> de
[20:26] <Pici> !enter
[20:26] <prince_jammys> davmonster: apt-get upgrade package_name        i *think*
[20:26] <Jowi> pocketdrummer, should work. it works here. "mplayer -zoom -aspect 1.19:1 filename.avi"
[20:26] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[20:26] <davmonster> it's mysql-server-5.0
[20:26] <vipaca> Im asking if kde is apart of the server distro?
[20:27] <Lifeisfunny> mjw-, I haven't gotten the Update icon in the notification area yet
[20:27] <TheArthur> vipaca, you can use vncpasswd to set the access password
[20:27] <zaivaldi> Tomi, what about the translation?
[20:27] <maximilion_> v_sec, well, I haven't experimented that much - I use an OSX theme on metacity (and it rocks)
[20:27] <mjw-> !info mysql-server-5.0 | davmonster
[20:27] <ubotu> davmonster: mysql-server-5.0 (source: mysql-dfsg-5.0): MySQL database server binaries. In component main, is optional. Version 5.0.45-1ubuntu3.1 (gutsy), package size 26162 kB, installed size 82504 kB
[20:27] <maximilion_> :)
[20:27] <TheArthur> vipaca, then you run vnsserver
[20:27] <Tomi> so, so
[20:27] <vipaca> which is not apart of the distro
[20:27] <warlock_handler> I am trying to run beryl on my ubuntu 7.10... but it gives me this error http://pastie.caboo.se/152837
[20:27] <zaivaldi> Tomi, come on #ubuntu-hu :)
[20:27] <maximilion_> !locale | Tomi
[20:27] <ubotu> Tomi: To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[20:27] <Geoffrey2> oh, hss anyone in here run any flavor of ubuntu inside virtualbox?
[20:27] <TheArthur> vipaca, eh?
[20:27] <warlock_handler> can anyone tell me whats going wrong here
[20:27] <mjw-> davmonster that's the latest version for gutsy.
[20:27] <Pici> vipaca: KDE can be installed on any of the Ubuntu distros, they all use the same repositories.
[20:27] <vipaca> theArthur you not telling me anything I don't know
[20:27] <warlock_handler> it worked perfectly on my ubuntu 6.10
[20:28] <davmonster> I need 5.0.51 :(
[20:28] <ph0rensic> warlock_handler: compiz is the new eye candy package for 7.10
[20:28] <Lifeisfunny> mjw-, is this the proper construct of the URL in the sources.list file?     deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[20:28] <Tomi> help english too and hungarian ..
[20:28] <vipaca> Im asking should I be doing apt-get to get these package ie vncserver and kde
[20:28] <davmonster> using ubuntu 7.10
[20:28] <vipaca> what windows managers come with the server distro?
[20:28] <mjw-> davmonster you'll have to find another source for it, or perhaps build it yourself.
[20:28] <Tomi> yeah
[20:28] <warlock_handler> ph0rensic: my comp hangs with that restricted nvidia driver
[20:28] <white_eagle> !compiz-fusion | warlock_handler
[20:28] <ubotu> warlock_handler: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[20:28] <maximilion_> !hu | tomi
[20:28] <ubotu> tomi: Magyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál
[20:28] <ph0rensic> vipaca: there is not a window manager that comes with the server edition
[20:28] <maximilion_> Hope that helps tomi :)
[20:28] <mjw-> vipaca I'm pretty sure X doesn't even come installed on the server version
[20:29] <white_eagle> warlock_handler, compiz and beryl are fused into compiz-fusion  now
[20:29]  * ph0rensic nods to mjw
[20:29] <Bodsda> mjw-, no but you can install it optionally
[20:29] <Tomi> htanx
[20:29] <Tomi> ;-)
[20:29] <white_eagle> see #compiz-fusion for help
 sir I am having prablems with that
[20:29] <white_eagle> what kinda problems
[20:29] <Tomi> slowly translation
 when ever i choose that restricted nvidia driver.. my comp hangs after the reboot
[20:29] <prince_jammys> davmonster: this cute command gives you the snippet:::       man apt-get | grep -A 4 '^http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=:space:*upgrade$'
[20:29]  * maximilion_ is away: In the Real World for but a moment.
[20:29] <socketbind> hi, is there an easy way to disable the middle button paste thing without losing wheel scroll? : |
[20:29] <white_eagle> warlock_handler, when did you do that install
[20:29] <white_eagle> I suggest a new fresh install
[20:29] <white_eagle> will that work?
 few days back
[20:30] <prince_jammys> davmonster: forget that
[20:30] <Dex-Freudii> what's the diff btween ubuntu DVD and ubuntu CD?
[20:30] <Dex-Freudii> what does the ubuntu DVD have that CD doesn't?
[20:30] <zaivaldi> Tomi, you can help translate for us
[20:30] <prince_jammys> davmonster: special characters did something funny
[20:30] <Bodsda> Dex-Freudii, ones a dvd iso ones a cd iso
 fresh install of what ubuntu? or compiz
[20:30] <Odd-rationale> Dex-Freudii: The dvd has the livecd, alternative cd, and server cd all in one
[20:30] <Tomi> max you are easy...
[20:30] <white_eagle> warlock_handler, can you handle a new install? If you have much data on it i don't recommend it though
[20:30] <vipaca> After installing vncserver Im not seeing twe or kde windows managers workig.
[20:30] <ph0rensic> Dex-Freudii: The ubuntu DVD has more packages available on it but you can get those packages online
[20:30] <white_eagle> warlock_handler, a fresh install of ubuntu
[20:30] <Tomi> when?
[20:30] <L3ttuc3> if i press ctrl + Z on a process that was running inside a terminal, then type bg, then log out completely, will that process still keep running?
[20:30] <davmonster> sweet
[20:30] <vipaca> do these have to be isntalled or are they included
[20:30] <Starseed> blah .. I'm driving myself crazy tring to put together a decent desktop
[20:30] <Dex-Freudii> ok thank you all
 not so soon
[20:30] <Starseed> hardware
[20:30] <davmonster> is there a way of getting verbose info on a package
[20:30] <davmonster> through apt-get ?
[20:31]  * Bodsda thinks this channel is busy busy busy
[20:31] <Dex-Freudii> gotta go
[20:31] <Jowi> davmonster, what info are you looking for?
[20:31] <white_eagle> warlock_handler, then I suggest asking in #compiz-fusion
[20:31] <davmonster> version, description etc
[20:31]  * Dex-Freudii thinks Bodsda is right
 I had installed 7.10 as i got it
[20:31] <Tomi> I'm PhotoFiltre Studio hungarian translator :)
 from the web
[20:31] <prince_jammys> davmonster: man apt-get | grep -A 4 verbose
[20:31] <Bodsda> davmonster, check    man apt-get     or    apt-get --help
[20:31] <Jowi> davmonster, "apt-cache show packagename" will give you alot
 ohh ok
[20:31]  * ph0rensic think Bodsda and Dex-Freudii  are right
[20:31] <davmonster> sweet thanks
[20:31]  * Bodsda thinks he's started a chain ;~)
[20:32]  * Dex-Freudii actually started it
[20:32] <Tomi> :) are you here max?
[20:32]  * Odd-rationale thinks Bodsda, Dex-Freudii, ph0rensic, and Odd-rationale just made it busier.
[20:32] <prince_jammys> davmonster: apt-cache show as Jowi says, will tell you everything about a package (sudo not necessary)
[20:32]  * ph0rensic pretends to have started it
[20:32] <socketbind> is there any easy way to disable the middle-button-paste functionality?
[20:32]  * Bodsda thinks Dex-Freudii is trying to steal Bodsda's thunder
[20:32]  * Dex-Freudii hates /me commands
[20:32] <davmonster> there is a bug in mysqlhotcopy that means it won't backup UTF-8 tables, which is the default type in 7.10 mysql-server-5.0 encoding
[20:32]  * ph0rensic me too
[20:32]  * Bodsda agrees with Odd-rationale 
[20:33] <Lifeisfunny> I tried that command again and I'm still getting an md5 mismatch   :\
[20:33]  * Odd-rationale is glad someone agrees with him (does not happen very often).
[20:33] <davmonster> so.. you can't use mysqlhotcopy if you have 7.10 and don't change the default :(
[20:33]  * Dex-Freudii waves good bye
[20:33] <Bodsda> socketbind, check your xorg.conf    mouse input section
[20:34] <socketbind> Bodsda: erm, what exactly?
[20:34]  * Bodsda thinks Odd-rationale is emotionally scarred
[20:34] <socketbind> i have tried a method but that disabled wheel scroll
[20:34] <Bodsda> socketbind, check  /etc/X11/xorg.conf     find the section for mouse config -- then see if the configuration is defined there
[20:34] <sp0ro|> Hi, I am using the latest Kismet and Madwifi driver versions. Kismet loads fine, but the problem is it doesn't see any wireless networks around. Anyone have any idea what I am doing wrong?
[20:35] <gargoyle> hi all
[20:35] <Tomi> zivaldi are you here? Sure?
[20:35] <socketbind> Bodsda: it is there, as "Configured Mouse"
[20:35] <zaivaldi> Tomi, yes
[20:35] <Lifeisfunny> mjw-, thanks for your help, I'm gonna go out for a sandwich and bbl.   (thanks/cheers to others also)
[20:35] <zaivaldi> Tomi, im hungarian too
[20:35] <gargoyle> hi s2
[20:35] <mjw-> Lifeisfunny um, is it working?
[20:35]  * ph0rensic is just hungry
[20:36] <Tomi> Ok send message for private chat
[20:36] <htaccess> hi i am connecting to a vnc server on a 7.10 box using a client on a mac ibook, but the resolution is wrong, where do i configure the resolution for the vncserver?
[20:36] <Bodsda> socketbind, use your method (the one that disables mousewheel) then use this     sudo apt get install imwheel         to get the wheel back
[20:36] <mjw-> htaccess it's going to use whatever the actual resolution is
[20:36] <Bodsda> apt-get*
[20:36] <zaivaldi> Tomi, i send for you, but.. are you indentified?
[20:37] <Tomi> why?
[20:37] <Odd-rationale> !register
[20:37] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[20:37] <nicholas> nah ezután
[20:37] <htaccess> mjw seems to suggest it can be changed?
[20:37]  * Bodsda curses Odd-rationale for his quick bot usage 
[20:37] <zaivaldi> Tomi, msg me
[20:37] <aoupi> in rhythmbox is it possible to make automatic playlists that looks in shared stuff like daap?
[20:37] <Azzco> Does anyone know of any other way to install ubuntu without CD than the ones listed on help.ubuntu?
[20:37] <Tomi> i sad messege you are translator?
[20:38] <xinx> Hello I jave a question is there anyway to use the iphone on linux to sync music and stuffs?
[20:38]  * Odd-rationale grins.
[20:38] <zaivaldi> Tomi, yes
[20:38] <socketbind> Bodsda: is there any other way without using a separate program?
[20:38] <zaivaldi> and im on #ubuntu-hu with other hungarian translators
[20:38] <lindzeyn> Hey everyone.  I coaxed my system into getting ubuntu64 to work (hooray) but I still have one problem.  I am attempting to install the beta Sound Blaster X-Fi platinum drivers from creative and they are only meant for 64bit systems.  When I run the script, I get an error that says the installation cannot continue because the Operating System isnt 64bit, but I am positive that I downloaded the 64bit distro and used that for my installation.
[20:38] <Bodsda> socketbind, what seperate program are you gonna use?
[20:38] <Tomi> Ok
[20:39] <xinx> Hello I jave a question is there anyway to use the iphone on Ubuntu? to sync music and stuffs?
[20:39] <mjw-> htaccess well if you change your screen resolution on the vnc server computer, it will change what the vnc server is exporting
[20:39] <socketbind> bodsda: i believe imwheel is a separate program that starts with each X session
[20:39] <Flannel> Azzco: What isn't working for you?
[20:39] <Tomi> I translated PhotoFiltre Studio in 2007...
[20:39] <Azzco> xinx:  No need to repeat yourself (at least spell it correctly)
[20:39] <Bodsda> socketbind, i dont know, either way it doesnt affect your system (apart from iving you the mousewheel)
[20:39] <Bodsda> g
[20:39] <Jowi> lindzeyn, "uname -a" should tell you what you are running
[20:39] <htaccess> i see lines like "vncserver :2 -geometry 1024x768 -depth 24" via google
[20:40] <socketbind> bodsda: o.k. thanks
[20:40] <Bodsda> np
[20:40] <Bodsda> ;~)
[20:40] <whabo> hello i have the linksys WUSB54G wireless adapter on this computer .... how do i set it up to work wireless???? ANy help would be appreciated .. thank you.
[20:40] <lindzeyn> Right, I did that Jowi and it is confirmed that it is 64bit
[20:40] <htaccess> but it looks like 7.10 is running a vnc server called vino?
[20:40] <zaivaldi> Tomi, you can help translate at laucnhpad
[20:40] <Odd-rationale> !wireless | whabo
[20:40] <erUSUL> !wifi | whabo
[20:40] <ubotu> whabo: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[20:40] <Azzco> Flannel: Can't boot with the CD, and I ran out of CDs trying to boot (maybe something went wrong...)
[20:40] <pike_> whabo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=588045
[20:41] <Jowi> lindzeyn, file a bug report at creatives site. not much else to do.
[20:41] <Tomi> zaivaldi magán üzenete érkezett
[20:41] <Flannel> Azzco: Were you burning the CD correctly? (did you get a bunch of files on the CD post burn? or just a single .iso file?)
[20:41] <whabo> ty
[20:41] <zaivaldi> Tomi, szerintem nem vagy bejelentkezve mert nem jön át, gyere az #ubuntu-hu szobába
[20:41] <Bodsda> yw
[20:41] <prince_jammys> Azzco: you tried burning at slow speed (eg 4X)?
[20:41] <zaivaldi> Tomi, /ns identify your-password
[20:41] <Tomi> zaivaldi private message  arrived
[20:42] <Azzco> Flannel: Yeah, burned CDs before. I think it's something with the hardware since it works on other PCs
[20:42] <snkmad> there wont be a wine 0.9.55 package for gutsy, only for hardy?
[20:42] <zaivaldi> Tomi, i don't se
[20:42] <zaivaldi> e
[20:42] <Flannel> Azzco: Alright.  What doesn't work about it?  It wont boot to it at all? or what?
[20:42] <Bodsda> zaivaldi, does that work? i thought it was -- /msg nickserv identify *******
[20:42] <zaivaldi> Bodsda, if have an alias, it works
[20:42] <erUSUL> snkmad: winehq has repo a deb dl of wine for most versins of ubuntu
[20:42] <zaivaldi> ns -> msg nickserv
[20:42] <Bodsda> zaivaldi, ah, ok
[20:43] <prince_jammys> Azzco: i have had that problem -- seems certain chip sets dont allow the live cd
[20:43] <Tomi> Ok I send you my e-mail...
[20:43] <snkmad> erUSUL the lastest version isnt out for ubuntu, only 0.9.54
[20:43] <Bodsda> Azzco, ive had probs with live cd on laptops -- text instaler works though
[20:43] <sp0ro|> Hi, I am using the latest Kismet and Madwifi driver versions. Kismet loads fine, but the problem is it doesn't see any wireless networks around. Anyone have any idea what I am doing wrong?
[20:43] <zaivaldi> Tomi, what e-mail address?
[20:44] <Tomi> meszaros.tomi@egon.gyaloglo.hu
[20:44] <Azzco> Flannel: Boots but graphics is ...wrong id the only word to describe it... Green lines everywhere.
[20:44] <zaivaldi> Tomi, it's not my mail address
[20:44] <Azzco> prince_jammys: Graphics card?
[20:44] <zaivaldi> jah, ok :)
[20:44] <Tomi> please write me..
[20:44] <mysterycool> where can i change my audio options on my Ubuntu?
[20:44] <Flannel> Azzco: Try booting to safe graphics mode, and yeah, the textmode installer (alternate CD) will work if nothing else does
[20:45] <Tomi> so I think now too later
[20:45] <prince_jammys> Azzco: no, the motherboard --- don't think it was a graphics thing (but the machine had an old nvidia)
[20:45] <tr_tr_tr> what files do i have to attach normally to report a bug in launchpad? I remember lspci, dmesg... ??
[20:45] <mjw-> mysterycool doubleclick the volume control in the panel
[20:45] <sp0ro|> How do you check what wireless drivers you are using?
[20:45] <Tomi> Godd night for everybody....
[20:45] <zaivaldi> Tomi, i sent a mail
[20:45] <Bodsda> Goddnight Tomi
[20:45] <Odd-rationale> sp0ro|: lspci
[20:45] <prince_jammys> Azzco: yes, try the textmode installer and install stuff once you're in
[20:45] <sp0ro|> what wireless driver version I mean
[20:45] <Tomi> bye bye
[20:45] <zaivaldi> bye
[20:46] <Azzco> ...I'll guess I'll have to wait untill I get more Cds then. Thanks for the help all =D
[20:46] <j1solutions> h3llo all
[20:46] <sp0ro|> Odd-rationale, that only gives me the name of the cardbus which my wireless adapater is in :(
[20:46] <ole__> hvordan er denne siden når man trenger hjelp? er de første sekundene jeg er her
[20:46] <Steffanx> hi, what 'addon' is that dock ? http://geekgirlxx.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/ubuntu-tweak-desktop-icons-capture.png
[20:46] <Odd-rationale> sp0ro|: OK. sorry
[20:46] <sp0ro|> Odd-rationale looking for the specific driver version that is installed
[20:46] <Azzco> ole__: Maybe try a danish channel?
[20:46] <Flannel> !no | ole__
[20:46] <ubotu> ole__: Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[20:46] <ole__> #UBUNTU
[20:47] <xinx> Hi is there any program to use for iphone like itunes on Ubuntu?>
[20:47] <vegeta> hi
[20:47] <nexact> hello vegeta
[20:47] <dimitri> hello guy
[20:47] <Aspys> good evening
[20:47] <vegeta> hello
[20:47] <vegeta> :P
[20:47] <xinx> Hi is there any program to use for iphone like itunes on Ubuntu?>
[20:47] <dimitri> i have a prob with a wireless usb card
[20:48] <dimitri> someone help me please
[20:48] <nexact> dimitri, if you could be a *bit* more descriptive, we could help you.
[20:48] <vegeta> hey man im looking for another software to burn
[20:48] <xinx> Hi is there any program to use for iphone like itunes on Ubuntu?>
[20:48] <Steffanx> nero .. vegeta?
[20:48] <dimitri> nexact:ok
[20:48] <vegeta> for Bruning
[20:48] <vegeta> burn
[20:48] <j1solutions> vegeta Brasero is a good one
[20:48] <mjw-> !ipod | xinx
[20:48] <ubotu> xinx: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[20:48] <nexact> vegeta, k3b ?
[20:49] <prince_jammys> !rockbox | xinx
[20:49] <ubotu> xinx: rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[20:49] <xinx> ty
[20:49] <dimitri> i have a rt73 usb card and lsusb acquire the card but after the installation of a new driver the wifi don't appear
[20:49] <lollo> uhm why does there's a .trash folder for each folder ? ? ?
[20:49] <dimitri> nexact:now i use the net with a cable
[20:50] <sp0ro|> How do you check what wireless driver version(s) you are using?
[20:50] <liran> i just did apt-get remove mysql-server
[20:50] <liran> and then re installed it
[20:50] <liran> but i get this
[20:50] <liran> invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/mysql not found.
[20:50] <mjw-> dimitri the rt73 driver included in gutsy is basically broken. hopefully the included driver will be more functional in hardy.
[20:50] <wng-> anyone familiar with WoW under wine? I can play the game fine, theres just a few minor issues left, such as the minimap goes blank when I have a roof over my head, and it asks me to approve the ToS every time on startup
[20:50] <xinx> prince-jammys apt-get install rockbox?
[20:50] <prince_jammys> lollo: .Trash ::: keep track of a user's trash can, each user has one
[20:50] <prince_jammys> xinx: check the web link
[20:50] <xinx> kk
[20:50] <Starseed> is a $15 difference worth a 8800gs with core clock speed on 680Mhz , vs 580Mhz
[20:51] <Aspys> I've got a problem with installation for an amd64 system. I've read a lot of threads on the forums and i got it installed, but when i reboot not even grub menu shows up :( [Athlon 4200X2, Asus m2n-mx se+, geforce 8600gt, sata hd]
[20:51] <mjw-> !ot > Starseed
[20:51] <vegeta> I use k3b but i wont accepte to add a 4.g files
[20:51] <player134324> Hello everyone. I just bought a dell Vostro 1700, I managed to get everything working but the sound. I was wondering if anyone has recently had to configure the "Integrated High Definition    Audio 2.0" and the steps to getting it working
[20:51] <dimitri> mjw-: i know but last mounth i have installed ubuntu with this usb card
[20:51] <vegeta> I dont see any option
[20:51] <dimitri> and now runs
[20:51] <liran> just installed mysql server and im getting his
[20:51] <liran> invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/mysql not found.
[20:51] <Starseed> mjw-, ??
[20:51] <dimitri> but with a new installation i have a problem
[20:51] <Starseed> mjw-, never mind then , lol
[20:51] <mjw-> dimitri yeah, that's the thing. I had an RT73 based USB as well and it SEEMED ok during installation, but stopped working when not on the live cd
[20:51] <Aspys> any clue other than "read the forum please"? I don't care about having a framebuffered console or a splash screen...but at least booting the system would be nice
[20:51] <ompaul> liran, read this   you may find it useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[20:52] <lollo> ok but the files that i can find in a .trash folder there aren't in the " main" trash (the icon on the desktop) prince !
[20:52] <prince_jammys> liran : if no answers here, #mysql
[20:52] <Aspys> (i know usplash doesn't work on x86_64 systems)
[20:52] <dimitri> mjw-: the same for me....during the live is ok ...after installation i have problem
[20:53] <mjw-> dimitri I did get it working eventually, but it wasn't worth the effort involved, IMO.
[20:53] <Jowi> Steffanx, avant-window-navigator
[20:53] <Steffanx> a thanks
[20:53] <kikr> Is it possible to get spyware on a linux box?
[20:54] <lollo> ok but the files that i can find in a .trash folder there aren't in the " main" trash (the icon on the desktop) ... prince_jammys,
[20:54] <Aspys> as far as i know there aren't spywares coded for linux...
[20:54] <prince_jammys> kikr: yes, but highly highly highly unlikely -- dont browse the web as root --- don't do anything as root, really
[20:54] <mjw-> dimitri basically you need to go to a web site to download an updated kernel module, compile it yourself, etc. I can't find the link to the guide I had followed though.
[20:54] <Aspys> perhaps some malicious script..
[20:55] <AE86> good evening!
[20:55] <prince_jammys> kikr:  dont install random crap from the internet, stick to apt or trusted sources
[20:55] <tass1412> how to test if an usb-stick has a mbr?
[20:55] <Falgor2> hi, I'm in "add/remove appliactions". Shouldnt there be a "install" button somewhere?
[20:55] <david08> hello. how do i set the icons on the desktop to be small?
[20:55] <Baxter> I just have a quick question about moving from SUSE to ununtu, is there any way i can do it without burning the distro to a CD from within SUSE?
[20:55] <kikr> well I was talking about spyware and the web browser, not a trojan or virus
[20:55] <Adys> Falgor2: Click the applications ou want to install, and then at the bottom right apply changes
[20:55] <v_sec> has "emerald-themes" been depreciated in gutsy?
[20:56] <mjw-> kikr most spyware depends not only on the browser but you being on windows as well...it simply won't work in linux.
[20:56] <kikr> k
[20:56] <Aspys> Baxter, did you get suse burning cds? brasero keeps telling me "the media is not writable", the best i got was an application hang
[20:57] <david08> how do i set the icons on the desktop to be small?
[20:57] <Baxter> that's my probelm i was hoping i could do it from the drive by changing the grub entries
[20:57] <david08> they are huge for my taste
[20:57] <AE86> hi, i got compiz fusion with emerald, but how can I change the look of my taskbar
[20:57] <Baxter> *boot
[20:57] <Adys> Ive installed firefox 3b3 from synaptic, started up fine the first time but now Im getting the error "Segmentation fault (core dumped)". Ubuntu 7.10 64bit. What's that about?
[20:58] <player134324> Has anyone had to configure "Integrated High Definition    Audio 2.0" from dell to work properly ? I have tried to edit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base Edit the line "options snd-hda-intel model=ref" to read "options snd-hda-intel model=3stack" and came up with no results
[20:58] <MasterShrak> Adys well its beta, good chance its not going to run smoothly
[20:58] <Aspys> Baxter, I think it's a Brasero problem then. I haven't tried it, but you use k3b
[20:58] <Adys> MasterShrak: I know that well enough
[20:58] <Aspys> could*
[20:58] <patogen> Should _all_ linux isos be burnt slow? Going to burn another dist to a CD ...
[20:59] <Adys> but that kind of error is not specific to ff
[20:59] <Aspys> patogen, i've always burnt at maximum speed without getting a md5sum mismatch :)
[20:59] <vincenzo> good evening to everyone
[20:59] <patogen> Aspys: I don't even know how to du a md5sum mismatch
[20:59] <Baxter> yes If i recall corectly
[20:59] <Falgor2> hmm
[21:00] <Falgor2> not sure what I did but no the package manager works
[21:00] <Falgor2> *now
[21:00] <MasterShrak> patogen burning slow is always recommended, less chance of bad burns and whatnot
[21:00] <Aspys> patogen, oh ok :)
[21:00] <frantz46> Hello
[21:00] <MasterShrak> Falgor2 whats an error?
[21:00] <MasterShrak> the*
[21:01] <Aspys> anyway, has anyone got any suggestion for my issue?
[21:02] <Aspys> i'd seriously like to get ubuntu installed :S
[21:02] <Falgor2> what exactly do I need to get in order to get java games working?
[21:02] <neverblue> Aspys, explain the issue, and maybe someone can help
[21:02] <ph0rensic> Falgor2: Jave
[21:02] <Photocopy> I need some help getting flash (for firefox.)
[21:02] <mjw-> Adys where did you get the firefox 3b3 installation package from
[21:02] <MasterShrak> !java | Falgor2
[21:02] <ubotu> Falgor2: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[21:02] <neverblue> Falgor2, the JVM possibly?
[21:02] <ph0rensic> Falgor2: try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:02] <Aspys> neverblue, ok, i'll explain it again :)
[21:03] <Adys> mjw-:  Enable synaptic additional repositories
[21:03] <Adys> mjw-:  settings, repositories, updates, tick backports
[21:03] <pawan1> hi
[21:03] <v_sec> can anyone tell me why my window borders are completely see through?
[21:04] <pawan1> error 22 no such partition
[21:04] <Falgor2> "Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[21:04] <Falgor2> "
[21:04] <Photocopy> Anyone can help me with getting flash?
[21:04] <mjw-> Adys the backports are notoriously buggy
[21:04] <pawan1> how to repair grub
[21:04] <Adys> i know that :)
[21:04] <mjw-> !flash > Photocopy
[21:04] <Photocopy> mjw.
[21:04] <Photocopy> omg nevermind then
[21:04] <Aspys> As far as i've seen it's a common issue due to usplash bug. I've got a 64bit system and i can't boot ubuntu after the installation (i can boot from cd using vga res and disabling usplash). At the reboot not even grub menu shows up
[21:04] <mjw-> Adys well now you know why it's dumping core then ;)
[21:04] <Adys> mjw-:  Yeah. Im only trying to figure out how to work around it :P
[21:04] <Falgor2> hmm
[21:05] <mjw-> Adys trade up to hardy heron and be on the bleeding edge on every front ;)
[21:05] <Adys> since i actually managed to start it up fine
[21:05] <Falgor2> it doesnt find that package ph0rensic
[21:05] <Photocopy> mjw: Theres no section on that page for 7.10
[21:05] <ph0rensic> Falgor2: You have to enable the repositories
[21:05] <Falgor2> how?
[21:05] <pawan1> grub
[21:05] <ph0rensic> Falgor2: Go to your software sources from system - admin
[21:06] <patogen> I have sda1 = win, sda2 = /, sda 3 = storage partitio, sda5 = storage, sda6 = swap, why is there no sda4?
[21:06] <mjw-> Photocopy: ok, make sure you have multiverse and universe enabled in your software sources, then do sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get remove gnash; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[21:06] <Photocopy> mjw: I do.
[21:06] <ph0rensic> Falgor2: Check all but sources on first page
[21:06] <Falgor2> wait a sec
[21:06] <Falgor2> I'm not there yet (finnish)
[21:07] <prince_jammys> patogen: is that causing a problem?  because i know it happens and may not be an issue
[21:07] <Photocopy> mjw: that failed
[21:07] <patogen> prince_jammys: No, just wondering :)
[21:07] <patogen> prince_jammys: Everything seems ok :-)
[21:07] <ph0rensic> Falgor2: Did you find it?
[21:07] <mjw-> Photocopy please be more descriptive.
[21:08] <Falgor2> ok, ph0rensic done
[21:08] <Shuggle> how would i exit the x server to isntall my video driver?
[21:08] <Falgor2> all but sources
[21:08] <prince_jammys> patogen: i have had it, don't think it's important - but have no idea why that is
[21:08] <MasterShrak> Shugglectrl+alt+f1, log in and type: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[21:08] <mjw-> Photocopy the remove gnash line may only return an error, it's just to take care of a possibility
[21:08] <ph0rensic> Falgor2: now try it in the terminal... should be able to press arrow up key to get last commands typed
[21:08] <Photocopy> mjw: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[21:08] <MasterShrak> Photocopy do you have synaptic open?
[21:08] <mjw-> Photocopy you have to close synaptic first
[21:08] <Photocopy> oh
[21:08] <Falgor2> ph0rensic: thanks
[21:09] <ph0rensic> That work for you?
[21:09] <Photocopy> mjw: It said the plugin is already at the most recent version
[21:09] <misteralexander> I'm using Ubuntu 7.10, I'm having GREAT difficulty with my "Trash Bin".  Any help?
[21:09] <Photocopy> mjw: Newest*
[21:10] <mjw-> Photocopy sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-nonfree; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[21:10] <misteralexander> How do I "Force" empty my ".Trash-Misteralexander" folder???
[21:11] <kbrooks> misteralexander, where's that folder?
[21:11] <Photocopy> mjw: K its installing it now
[21:11] <Photocopy> mjw
[21:11] <misteralexander> KBROOKS => On an SD Card.  The folder is seriously messing up the SD cards operation
[21:11] <Falgor2> ok, got it working ph0rensic
[21:12] <Eareng> misteralexander: sudo rm -f ...
[21:12] <kbrooks> misteralexander, please don't CAP my nickname
[21:12] <prince_jammys> misteralexander: rm .Trash-Misteralexander/*
[21:12] <kbrooks> misteralexander, go into your terminal
[21:12] <misteralexander> sorry.
[21:12] <misteralexander> yeah,
[21:12] <kbrooks> misteralexander, type mount
[21:12] <Photocopy> mjw: I pmed you the error to reduce spam.
[21:12] <CarlF1> trying to boot live install cd on a dell poweredge server (so I can apt-get install testdisk and fix the partition table) - 5 or 6 CDs are all erroring.  I have the cd iso on a usb stick, as a file on a fat fs.  is there some way to boot that image?
[21:12] <kbrooks> misteralexander, and paste the output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[21:12] <kbrooks> misteralexander, show me the link
[21:12] <misteralexander> Okay.  hold one.
[21:12] <mjw-> !register > Photocopy
[21:13] <Photocopy> mjw: Screw it then, Download done.
[21:13] <Photocopy> md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[21:13] <Photocopy> The Flash plugin is NOT installed.
[21:13] <mjw-> Photocopy did you run a sudo apt-get update ?
[21:13] <Photocopy> mjw: Yes I did
[21:13] <kbrooks> Photocopy, manual download?
[21:13] <kbrooks> Photocopy, manual download?
[21:14] <vipaca> anyone have any nis experience
[21:14] <Photocopy> kkbrooks: I cant
[21:14] <kbrooks> Photocopy, or apt-get?
[21:14] <Photocopy> kkbrooks: I dont know how
[21:14] <misteralexander> kbrooks => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56131/
[21:14] <Photocopy> kkbrooks: That was done in apt-get
[21:14] <gdor> do you prefer this logo : http://gdor.ftp.free.fr/winancial.png or this one : http://gdor.ftp.free.fr/winancial_v7.png
[21:14] <mjw-> Photocopy: try this one more time:   sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-nonfree; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[21:14] <mjw-> if this doesn't work I give up
[21:14] <prince_jammys> !offtopic | gdor
[21:14] <ubotu> gdor: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[21:14] <Photocopy> mjw- okay
[21:15] <rufus_> when I download the ubuntu ISO file, does it matter if I rename it before I put it on a disc?
[21:15] <jack-desktop> Who knows anything about the wallpaper clock
[21:15] <kbrooks> misteralexander, see the last line? /media/disk is your SD flash. so type, in the terminal:
[21:15] <rufus_> i have it named ubuntu.iso
[21:15] <nicholas_> Having issues with audio
[21:15] <kbrooks> misteralexander, cd /media/disk
[21:15] <Photocopy> mjw- its installing.
[21:15] <CyanideD> can someone help me install flash players
[21:15] <kbrooks> misteralexander, then do this: echo .Trash*
[21:15] <mjw-> rufus_ you need to burn it as an image file to a disc.
[21:15] <nicholas_> anyone good with audio issues???
[21:15] <Photocopy> mjw-: Same error
[21:15] <FFighter> if I want a viewlet to appear **only** in the plone-site-root, what interface should I restrict it for?
[21:15] <kbrooks> misteralexander, show the output (one line) here
[21:16] <FFighter> there are many similar interfaces for the root node
[21:16] <rufus_> mjw-, does it matter what I name the .iso image?
[21:16] <mysterycool> hey so i wanna get apache with mysql but i dont wanna download them separately. in windows i used wamp. in linux there is something like that right? it's called lamp?
[21:16] <mjw-> Photocopy this used to be a problem a few weeks back...I'm not sure what's causing it at this juncture.
[21:16] <Photocopy> mjw-: Well this is no good, I need flash.
[21:16] <misteralexander> misteralexander@misteralexander-laptop:/media/disk$ echo.Trash*
[21:16] <misteralexander> bash: echo.Trash*: command not found
[21:16] <Photocopy> mjw-: And gnash was just plain crap.
[21:16] <mjw-> rufus_ : no, just don't burn the file itself to a disc.
[21:16] <kbrooks> misteralexander, echo<space>
[21:16] <ph0rensic> mysterycool: Do you want to add these to an existing install or do a complete reinstall of only the server??
[21:16] <misteralexander> oh
[21:16] <rufus_> mjw-, i know how to burn images
[21:16] <kbrooks> misteralexander, <space> means type space
[21:17] <Matze79> hi :
[21:17] <kbrooks> misteralexander, not "<space>" obviously
[21:17] <misteralexander> kbrooks => .Trash-misteralexander
[21:17] <mjw-> Photocopy the same sequence of commands I gave you works fine on my machine for reinstalling flash so I'm not sure what else to suggest
[21:17] <prince_jammys> misteralexander: ls .Trash-misteralexander
[21:17] <nicholas_> Audio Problems. Can anyone help???
[21:17] <Photocopy> mjw-: A different package
[21:18] <blizzkid> lo all. I followed a couple of tutorials on the net to integrate mailman with postfix, but when I send an email to my list, I get: unknown user: "ml-test@mydomain.com"  Can someone help me troubleshoot?
[21:18] <ph0rensic> mysterycool: You gonna answer that ^^
[21:18] <Jack_Sparrow> the last updates took down all video, flash, mpg,mwv all of them
[21:18] <Jack_Sparrow> on my system.. nvidia 6600
[21:18] <mysterycool> :p
[21:19] <Falgor2> hmm, ph0rensic I still seem to need a plugin or something for firefox
[21:19] <ph0rensic> Falgor2: did you reload firefox after you installed that
[21:19] <misteralexander> kbrooks =>  Nothing happened.  I typed "ls .Trash-misteralexander" but nothing happened.
[21:19] <nicholas_> (Failed to construct test pipeline for 'gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat') That is  the error that i get when I try to test the sound capture.
[21:20] <CyanideD> cansomeone help me install flash players
[21:20] <prince_jammys> misteralexander it's empty then
[21:20] <misteralexander> but it's not.  It's still got the same stuff in there.
[21:20] <prince_jammys> misteralexander: ls -l .Trash-misteralexander
[21:21] <Birkoff> Anyone here in the mood to help me with some problems installing ubuntu 7.10 ?
[21:21] <prince_jammys> misteralexander: and if you think you have hidden files there::::     ls -al .Trashetc
[21:21] <pike_> Birkoff: shoot
[21:21] <tushyd> i installed bootchart but there is no file /var/logs/bootchart. There is a file /var/logs/boot but it says "nothing has been logged yet"
[21:21] <misteralexander> It keeps saying it has problems because it's a read-only device.  But if that's true then the recycle folder couldn't have been put there.  Also, i've written data to the device.
[21:21] <s0u][ight> hello the ndiswrapper worked fine for me (bcm4311)
[21:21] <nicholas_> AUDIO PROBLEMS!
[21:22] <mjw-> Photocopy yeah I just removed and installed flashplugin-nonfree on this computer...perfectly fine. :/  I don't get it
[21:22] <s0u][ight> yeah me too
[21:22] <CyanideD> !beryl
[21:22] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[21:22] <prince_jammys> misteralexander: what is the output of ls -al .Trash-misteralexander  ???
[21:22] <CyanideD> !compiz
[21:22] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[21:22] <kbrooks> misteralexander, see mount o utput in that pastebin
[21:22] <loa> Hello friends... who have samsung q45, how to get microphone?
[21:23] <kbrooks> misteralexander, it should say for /media/disk in options "ro"
[21:23] <ph0rensic> Falgor2: That package installs the flash plugin.. you probably just have to restart firefox and it should work
[21:23] <Birkoff> Does anyone here knowes if there are some issues about using ubuntu 7.10 with sata drivers ?
[21:23] <doc|work> anyone know how I can get php 5.2.5? The current on gibbon is 5.2.3
[21:23] <misteralexander> Okay, sorry,  you're getting ahead of me.
[21:23] <misteralexander> sorry.
[21:23] <MasterShrak> doc|work compile it yourself would be your best bet
[21:24] <misteralexander> I'm going to post the output of "ls -al .Trash-misteralexander"
[21:24] <doc|work> MasterShrak: arse, any other option? :(
[21:24] <MasterShrak> doc|work look for a debian/ubuntu package on the net and isntall it maybe
[21:24] <[dcr]> !pastebin | misteralexander
[21:24] <ubotu> misteralexander: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[21:24] <doc|work> MasterShrak: ok, thanks :/
[21:24] <mjw-> Birkoff ubuntu should install fine on most common sata drives/controllers
[21:25] <jeffrock> anyone have experience with widescreen issues in 7.10?
[21:25] <misteralexander> dcr | kbrooks => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56132/
[21:25] <Photocopy> mjw- What do you know about making microphones work?
[21:26] <MasterShrak> jeffrock have you installed the drivers for your video card?
[21:26] <Birkoff> @jeffrock: doesn´t know if it counts ... but when I attempted to install it I couldn´t even get it to boot from CD
[21:26] <Petengy> hi to all
[21:26] <kbrooks> misteralexander, ill show you, link me to other paste please
[21:26] <Shadowfire> lo to Petengy
[21:26] <MasterShrak> hello Petengy
[21:26] <kbrooks> misteralexander, nm
[21:26] <maccam94> ok horror story coming
[21:26] <mjw-> Photocopy doubleclick the volume control :)
[21:26] <maccam94> i gave a guy an ubuntu disk
[21:26] <prince_jammys> misteralexander: aha, a hidden folder, theres another trash folder in there
[21:26] <misteralexander> ?nm?
[21:26]  * MasterShrak gets some popcorn
[21:26] <Photocopy> mjw-: And?
[21:26] <ph0rensic> Birkoff: That should be the issue there.. not the disk
[21:26] <Falgor2> ok, working now (at least some java stuff), ph0rensic. Thanks very much :).
[21:26] <Shadowfire> what's the offical compiz fusion chan.. anyone?
[21:26] <maccam94> he used "guided: use entire disk"
[21:26] <Shadowfire> what's the offical compiz fusion chan.. anyone?
[21:26] <maccam94> how do i get his data back?
[21:26] <Photocopy> mjw-:  thanks
[21:27] <Petengy> knowing I have properly (and working) installed ALSA driver for my 82801H (ICH8 Family) sound system.... someone know how to get internal mic to work ?
[21:27] <misteralexander> yeah, the other trash folder is from my desktop Ubuntu box.
[21:27] <ph0rensic> Shadowfire: #compiz-fusion
[21:27] <MasterShrak> Shadowfire #compiz-fusion   probably
[21:27] <mjw-> Photocopy turn up the volume on the mic? :)
[21:27] <Starnestommy> Shadowfire: either #compiz or #compiz-fusion
[21:27] <kbrooks> maccam94, you cant
[21:27] <Shadowfire> ty ph0rensic
[21:27] <kbrooks> maccam94, it's gone. forever.
[21:27] <ph0rensic> np
[21:27] <Petengy> on a dell xps laptop
[21:27] <Odd-rationale> maccam94: He's out of luck...
[21:27] <Odd-rationale> Linux is for geeks only - even Ubuntu ;)
[21:27] <Petengy> Shadowfire, hallo
[21:28] <kbrooks> Odd-rationale, no
[21:28] <Petengy> MasterShrak, hi
[21:28] <maccam94> kbrooks, Odd-rationale: uh, partition recovery tools?
[21:28] <ph0rensic> maccam94: Your only chance is trying to salvage what wasn't written over with some data recovery program
[21:28] <Photocopy> mjw-: Tjat makes the microphone pick up sound and output it out speakers.. audacity doesnt pick up the sound
[21:28] <mjw-> maccam94 the installation program overwrote the entire disk with ext3 file formatting. it's not going to be recoverable.
[21:29] <Petengy> no one have troubles with internal mic on his laptop (dell) ??
[21:29] <prince_jammys> misteralexander: and you want that trash gone?
[21:29] <Photocopy> mjw-?
[21:29] <rufus_> okay, I already have Kubuntu installed on my hard disk
[21:29] <mjw-> Photocopy i know from using audacity in windows that you have to manually select your recording source. I've never used audacity in linux
[21:29] <misteralexander> kbrooks => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56133/  <-- That's the entire Terminal screen, it's everything typed and resulted.
[21:29]  * N3bunel saluta
[21:29] <misteralexander> prince_jammys => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56133/  <-- That's the entire Terminal screen, it's everything typed and resulted.
[21:29] <Photocopy> mjw-: I know from using audacity in windows that you DONT have to manually select the recording source, that it simply works. Besides, the source is set to mic
[21:30] <prince_jammys> misteralexander: ls -al .Trash-misteralexander/Trash-wickedsmaat
[21:30] <gold44> grub-reboot does not work on my machine. i ve seem lots of post saying this command does not work
[21:30] <prince_jammys> misteralexander: ls -al .Trash-misteralexander/.Trash-wickedsmaat  <---- DOT trash
[21:30] <leeping> Hey there, I'm having more LiveCD troubles, can someone help me out?
[21:30] <rufus_> okay, I already have Kubuntu installed on my hard disk. I have two other partitions - /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda2 - Kubuntu is on /dev/hda3 - How can I choose to install Ubuntu on /dev/hda1(/media/sda1)
[21:30] <ph0rensic> leeping: What seems to be the issue
[21:30] <rufus_> I already have a swap partition
[21:30] <leeping> The Ubuntu live CD doesn't appear to be willing to mount when I serve it on NFS
[21:30] <misteralexander> prince_jammys => i'll try that.
[21:30] <Photocopy> mjw: Now all the sudden clicking record makes an error opening sound device
[21:30] <MasterShrak> rufus_ choose it during the install
[21:30] <mjw-> Photocopy make sure ALSA is chosen in the volume control too
[21:30] <leeping> I consistently get the error: "Cannot find a live filesystem"
[21:31] <prince_jammys> misteralexander: don't bother paste-binning it if its empty
[21:31] <Odd-rationale> rufus_: When you install, on the partition step. Do a manual
[21:31] <MasterShrak> leeping mount the nfs share then mount the iso
[21:31] <ph0rensic> rufus_: In setup you select manually to install to that partition
[21:31] <rufus_> MasterShrak, but it wants to save it to /media/hda3
[21:31] <Photocopy> mjw-: Alsa is chosen, had to do that part to make sound work
[21:31] <rufus_> which is where Kubuntu is
[21:31] <Z0d14k1> Is there a way in compiz to force an app to always launch on a specific cube face?  ie: pidgin is always Face 4 e-mail is always face 2?  (is face the right word?  Desktop?)
[21:31] <credible> Z0d14k1: yes, please join #compiz-fusion
[21:31] <Odd-rationale> rufus_: During instal of ubuntu, set hda2 to /
[21:31] <MasterShrak> rufus_ are you aware that you can use ubuntu (gnome) and kubuntu (kde) on the same install?
[21:31] <leeping> Mount the NFS share?
[21:31] <rufus_> Okay, I got it
[21:32] <leeping> MasterShrak, do you mean I need the NFS server running?
[21:32] <rufus_> MasterShrak, I am aware of hat
[21:32] <Z0d14k1> credible:  Thanks.  Sorry, should have paid more attention to where I was....
[21:32] <rufus_> that*
[21:32] <prince_jammys> misteralexander: if theres another trash in there im gonna be very confused
[21:32] <MasterShrak> leeping what exactly are you trying to do?
[21:32] <leeping> I have a server computer with an image of the Ubuntu Live CD.. on the server I have PXE and TFTP
[21:32] <soleone> hi everyone! does someone know a good dictionary tool like babylon for ubuntu
[21:33] <misteralexander> prince_jammys | kbrooks => Okay, yeah it's just listing now the contents of the other trash folder.  I'm wanting to just completely erase the .Trash folder entirely.  So it's not on the disk at all, gone totally.
[21:33] <MasterShrak> soleone i think there is one already installed, check your applications menu
[21:33] <ballonge1> what is the best way to mount shares via samba on my ubuntu client? by enterering username, passwords in fstab or in a txtfile inside userhome, or is there another way?
[21:33] <sp0ro|> Which file do you edit to change the module parameters of a wireless adapter?
[21:33] <leeping> I'd like to serve the Live CD kernel on TFTP and mount the rest of the CD on NFS, so that computers on the LAN can boot up using the live CD on the server
[21:33] <leeping> The computers on the LAN don't have CD-ROM drives, you see ..
[21:33] <_Oz_> Hello, Ubuntu friends!
[21:33] <MasterShrak> ic leeping, i dont have any experience doing that, sorry
[21:34] <prince_jammys> misteralexander: rm -r .Trash-misteralexander  <--- but it will be recreated when delete stuff in the future
[21:34] <ballonge1> leeping: how do you servhe the live cd to tftp?
[21:34] <ph0rensic> leeping: You trying to install remotely??
[21:34] <leeping> ph0rensic: Not really.  Once the computer boots up with the LiveCD, I will use netcat to write an image of a pre-configured system to the hard drive
[21:34] <misteralexander> okay, i'm not EVER using this SD card in the computer again.
[21:34] <leeping> because I have twelve identical computers
[21:34] <mjw-> leeping that is considerably more advanced than this channel is really designed to address.
[21:34] <leeping> ballongel: I'm only serving the kernel of the livecd
[21:34] <Detructor> leeping: lol
[21:34] <ph0rensic> leeping: why dont you look at clonezilla
[21:35] <sp0ro|> Which file do you edit to change the module parameters of a wireless adapter?
[21:35] <prince_jammys> misteralexander: you can execute the above command any time you want that trash can gone
[21:35] <wyseur>  hello everybody
[21:35] <prince_jammys> misteralexander: windows does the same, creates a Recycled folder automatically
[21:35] <misteralexander> prince_jammys => stand-by for a patebin addy.
[21:35] <vincenzo> folk!!!!!!!!!!!
[21:35] <Photocopy> mjw-: I see what you mean and i played with those settings to no avail.. the ones in edit> preferences.
[21:35] <wyseur> anybody knows any problems with installing windows after a format from within ubuntu?
[21:36] <prince_jammys> misteralexander: pasting what?  is there an error
[21:36] <leeping> ph0rensic, I've looked at systemimager, which I feel is similar, but those large program packages don't always work with new hardwaree
[21:36] <dario> ciao a tutti
[21:36] <wyseur> I can't seem to install xp on my HD
[21:36] <vincenzo> Tell me why do you chose linux as oyur s,o.???
[21:36] <ph0rensic> leeping: Well it was worth a shot
[21:36] <misteralexander> prince_jammys => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56135/
[21:36] <mjw-> Photocopy i don't record anything in linux so i don't know what else to say
[21:36] <wyseur> it used to work untill I formatted the disk with ubuntu
[21:36] <rufus_> if I already have grub set up for another operating system, will ubuntu overwrite it, or just set it up to work alongside the other operating system?
[21:36] <leeping> ph0rensic, I'll look at clonezilla :) thanks
[21:36] <mjw-> !ot > vincenzo
[21:36] <Symgeosis> pe
[21:36] <ph0rensic> leeping: Check it o9ut on sourceforge.net
[21:37] <WarriorSlayer> somebody plz can help me configuring my home network?
[21:37] <prince_jammys> misteralexander: oh boy
[21:37] <ph0rensic> leeping: Has uni and multicasting like ghost
[21:37] <prince_jammys> misteralexander: are you able to write to this thing?  what is it? a partition?
[21:37] <ph0rensic> leeping: says it supports ~40 pc's installing at once
[21:37] <Photocopy> Can anyone help me with audacity? I cannot get it to pick up my mic
[21:37] <amd> yuy
[21:38] <amd> tyutyuty
[21:38] <MasterShrak> amd please dont spam
[21:38] <pike_> rufus_: i would expect ubuntu to prompt you before overwriting the mbr but im not totally sure. in any case ubuntu should autodetect the other os and set it up on its menu.lst so when it does overwrite the mbr on bootup you still have the choice of os
[21:38] <misteralexander> yeah, i've written to it using my Ubuntu desktop (this is my laptop // it has the smart-card reader).  It's an SD card.
[21:38] <leeping> ph0rensic, that sounds pretty cool - I'll look at the documentation :)
[21:38] <leeping> Thanks
[21:38] <ikonia> hfmls: you called
[21:38] <rufus_> pike_, thanks
[21:39] <prince_jammys> misteralexander: right now it seems you dont have permission to write to it
[21:39] <Petengy> knowing I have properly (and working) installed ALSA driver for my 82801H (ICH8 Family) sound system.... someone know how to get internal mic to work ?
[21:39] <bascule> pike_: at the end of install you have to explicitly tell it not to overwrite, but it picks up other OS just fine, and recovery partitions too
[21:39] <prince_jammys> misteralexander: try   sudo rm -r .Trash-misteralexander
[21:39] <Petengy> or make working an internal mic of a laptop inside ubuntu?
[21:39] <misteralexander> okay, hold on
[21:39] <muttonjeff> thanksants
[21:40] <misteralexander> no same output.  Read-only.
[21:40] <Photocopy> seriously.
[21:40] <misteralexander> I've got to be able to do this . . . I can write info to it and delete it but when it's in the .Trash folder it's untouchable????
[21:41] <Photocopy> I installed ubuntu studio to record stuff and I cant get my mic to work. I need a hand here.
[21:41] <prince_jammys> misteralexander: if you want to test that, try this     touch testfile
[21:41] <v_sec> anyone else have all their emerald theme engine's setting go to all 0 opacity? and any idea how i get back those settings?
[21:41] <misteralexander> okay, lemme see.
[21:41] <s0u][ight> i got troubleshooting with sound :s
[21:41] <prince_jammys> misteralexander: if you have permission, it will create an empty file called testfile
[21:41] <misteralexander> cannot touch 'testfile' system read-only.
[21:42] <pike_> Photocopy: its almost certanly just muted if you run alsamixer you can adjust the settings for the mic
[21:42] <prince_jammys> misteralexander: so thats the problem ---- otherwise ,    rm -r .Trash-misteralex     is all you would have to do
[21:42] <Photocopy> pike_: No, in alsamixer, unmuting it only makes mic input come out my speakers, audacity doesnt pick it up
[21:43] <Detructor> doesn't use alsa only OSS?!
[21:43] <Detructor> eerh
[21:43] <Detructor> audacity
[21:43] <misteralexander> so what's the problem???  It's just read-only and that's that?  I'm screwed?
[21:43] <Photocopy> audacity lets me use oss
[21:43] <prince_jammys> misteralexander: this /media/disk  you're in ;: what is it again?
[21:43] <Photocopy> i mean alsa
[21:43] <MasterShrak> v_sec chances are its a compiz setting, by doing: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager   you get a program called ccsm that you can mess with settings
[21:43] <misteralexander> an SD card
[21:44] <Photocopy> i can select my sound card (listed as an alsa thing) in devices in audacity
[21:44] <misteralexander> My "Navigon GPS" 4GB SD Card.
[21:44] <Photocopy> i cannot make my microphone work
[21:44] <Detructor> errh...Photocopy: try to start audacity with aoss
[21:44] <Photocopy> detructor: How
[21:44] <Detructor> first you have to install alsa-oss over the package repositories
[21:45] <excalibas> Im having some problems with the gnome panel, it freezes and the cpu goes to 60% and stays there untill i kill it. It used to be ok....
[21:45] <Photocopy> detructor: I don't like the sound of this package
[21:45] <Detructor> then you've to start audacity via "aoss audacity"
[21:45] <Detructor> oh...
[21:45] <prince_jammys> misteralexander: paste the output of this (only one line, so don't need to pastebin):     grep '/media/disk'  /etc/fstab
[21:45] <Faust-C> do i need portmap to browse MS network ?
[21:46] <Detructor> Photocopy: errh okay...
[21:46] <MasterShrak> Faust-C i dont think so
[21:46] <Photocopy> detructor: I can select alsa devices in audacity
[21:46] <v_sec> MasterShrak: thanks- so now this begs the question.... how do i have wobbly windows if "wobbly windows" isnt checked off as "enabled" in ccsm?
[21:46] <Faust-C> i cant browse my network even w/ smb apps
[21:46] <Detructor> Photocopy: okay...
[21:47] <MasterShrak> v_sec its probably a setting somewhere else
[21:47] <prince_jammys> prince_jammys: pastebin only if more than one line long
[21:47] <ph0rensic> v_sec: You might just have advanced desktop effects marked and not full compiz
[21:47] <Photocopy> detructor: It simply doest work
[21:47] <MasterShrak> prince_jammys im glad you let yourself know that :)
[21:47] <v_sec> MasterShrak: any ideas where?
[21:47] <MasterShrak> v_sec not a clue since im not on my linux machine atm
[21:47] <misteralexander> PRINCE_JAMMYS => After hanging for a second it resulted in no output.  Nothing happened.
[21:47] <Detructor> Photocopy: errhm, what happens, when you go to the "audio" panel in the system menu
[21:47] <Detructor> and then "test" the input?
[21:48] <saurabh> i want to remove freeradius since i accidently deleted radiusd.conf from /etc/freeradius, the i did sudo apt-get remove freeradius, then i installed it again, but it says it can't find radiusd.conf in /etc/freeradius/
[21:48] <prince_jammys> misteralexander: it gets mounted automatically?
[21:48] <Detructor> and what device is selected there?
[21:48] <misteralexander> yeah.
[21:48] <Photocopy> detructor: Audacity doesnt have a system menu
[21:48] <Detructor> not audacity
[21:48] <Detructor> :D
[21:48] <pike_> Photocopy: there are multiple sections in alsamixer playback capture all   you want the mic on in playback but not capture i think
[21:48] <|unjustice|> hi I am running ubuntu gutsy on x86 and using amarok but I cannot scan my collection in order to load files into the library, and whenever I open it I get an error that reads
[21:48] <prince_jammys> MasterShrak: yeah, just a "note to self"
[21:48] <Friez> hi
[21:48] <MasterShrak> saurabh sudo apt-get purge freeradius    then reinstall it
[21:48] <|unjustice|> "Please check that the "dcopserver is running"
[21:48] <Photocopy> pike_: Can you rephrase that? Capture is of
[21:48] <pike_> Photocopy: i could be wrong sound is not my strong point at all
[21:48] <Photocopy> off
[21:49] <Friez> when i run a soft with command line it display
[21:49] <Friez> Panic
[21:49] <Friez> Failed to initialize GTK
[21:49] <Photocopy> detructor where is this system menu
[21:49] <Friez> what is this ?
[21:49] <|unjustice|> it also happens when I run KvIRC and pidgin
[21:49] <Friez> what i have to do ?
[21:49] <saurabh> MasterShrak: lovely! thanks!
[21:49] <Detructor> errhm the standard Ubuntu system menu
[21:49] <misteralexander> PRINCE_JAMMYS => Thanks for all your help man . . . i've got to hit the hay.  Sorry man, my day is over.
[21:50] <Friez> Failed to initialize GTK
[21:50] <|unjustice|> "Error setting up inter-process communications for KDE"
[21:50] <|unjustice|> "Please check that the "dcopserver is running"
[21:50] <prince_jammys> misteralexander: ok good luck, remember that command, once you're able to write to the disk
[21:50] <Photocopy> detructor theres no audio in the system menu... theres preferences, system administration, help and support, about gnome, about ubuntu, quit...
[21:50] <Friez> what is dcopserver ?
[21:50] <|unjustice|> do not know
[21:50] <Detructor> okay, system -> preferences -> audio
[21:51] <Starnestommy> Friez: I think it's KDE's interprocess communication service
[21:51] <Z0d14k1> Friez:  dcopserver is a part of KDE used for IPC.
[21:51] <Detructor> sorry I'm a german user I don't know how these points are namend in the english version
[21:51] <ompaul> Friez, Starnestommy is right
[21:51] <Photocopy> detructor: Theres no audio there... you mean sound?
[21:51] <Detructor> yep
[21:51] <TheCougar> ok here it goes! i'm booting ubuntu (7.04 i think) from the cd and i play a radio station and it plays... but i don't hear it. so i plug in my headphones into my headphone jack (note that the speakers are already plugged into the speakers jack) and i can then hear the music from the speakers
[21:51] <Detructor> sorry again :(
[21:51] <Photocopy> detructor: what do i do in this sound preferences panel
[21:51] <TheCougar> whats up with that?
[21:51] <Friez> ok
[21:52] <Detructor> there should be something like "sound input"
[21:52] <Friez> how to check it dcopserver
[21:52] <Friez> running or not
[21:52] <Friez> ??
[21:52] <TheCougar> same thing happens in vista
[21:52] <Detructor> Photocopy: and there should be a "test" button
[21:52] <Photocopy> detructor: Right... what
[21:52] <rodafr> hello, I have a problem. when I plug in my headphones in my laptop, I get no sound. sound works through the internal speakers, though.
[21:52] <ompaul> Friez, it is only running when an application wants it - install konqueror usually that installs it
[21:52] <Detructor> press it ;)
[21:52] <Photocopy> Detructor: I clicked test... now what?
[21:52] <soleone> i can't find out how to start wordtrans-qt after installing, it hasn't been added to the applications-menu. somebody has a tip?
[21:53] <MasterShrak> TheCougar soudns like a hardware or bios problem
[21:53] <Detructor> Photocopy: have you heard something out of your speakers?!
[21:53] <Friez> ok how the check the status of this program ?
[21:53] <Photocopy> Detructor: Everything i say in the mic comes out the speakers, and did even before i clicked test.
[21:53] <Friez> via command line ?
[21:53] <TheCougar> MasterShrek: motherboard has been replaced (which has the sound card and front audio jack)
[21:53] <Detructor> errh...kay
[21:54] <TheCougar> MasterShrak: this has drivin me up the wall:)
[21:54] <Starnestommy> Friez: ps aux | grep dcopserver
[21:54] <[dcr]> How do I go about creating another partition inside Ubuntu?
[21:54] <Detructor> then it should work in audacity...
[21:54] <Photocopy> Detructor: There is also some weirdo error that comes up but i cannot copy/paste it
[21:54] <mjw-> !partition > [dcr]
[21:54] <Photocopy> detructor: it doesnt work in audacity..
[21:54] <Detructor> yup, thats normal
[21:54] <[dcr]> !partition | [dcr]
[21:54] <[dcr]> ;o
[21:54] <soleone> I can't find out how to start wordtrans-qt after installing through apt-get, it hasn't been added to the applications-menu. somebody has a tip?
[21:54] <Oli``> My dmraid package is broken (won't allow me to upgrade it or remove it - just errors out). I can't use apt for anything else while it's erroring. I don't know what to do so I'm open for suggestions. Fire away.
[21:54] <[dcr]> ~_~
[21:54] <jeffrock> anyone have experience with widescreen resoultion problems in 7.10?
[21:55] <Friez> i don't know if running or not
[21:55] <[dcr]> !partition
[21:55] <Friez> root      7255  0.0  0.0   2988   772 pts/0    S+   22:54   0:00 grep dcopserver
[21:55] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[21:55] <[dcr]> !GParted it is
[21:55] <[dcr]> Thanks
[21:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gparted it is - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:55] <[dcr]> luls
[21:56] <[dcr]> !Gparted
[21:56] <ubotu> GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[21:56] <Detructor> Photocopy: can you choose between diffeerent entries in audacity for soundinput?!
[21:56] <Photocopy> Detructor: Yep
[21:56] <Detructor> and if yes, how man
[21:56] <Detructor> y
[21:56] <Drk_Guy> Hi
[21:56] <woodsoul> hi @ll
[21:56] <Photocopy> Detructor: What do you mean by how man
[21:56] <Detructor> how many
[21:56] <Friez> which line corresponding the status of program : root      7255  0.0  0.0   2988   772 pts/0    S+   22:54   0:00 grep dcopserver
[21:56] <Detructor> was a typo, sorry
[21:57] <|twiser|> how do i connect to usenet server in ubuntu
[21:57] <LordOfThePigs> Hello, What's a good wifi manager for ubuntu
[21:57] <Friez> ????
[21:57] <|twiser|> iesty fury
[21:57] <Photocopy> Detructor: Theres 13 options, five of which use Alsa, and three of which are my sound card where the mic is plugged in.
[21:57] <|unjustice|> Anyone know how to fix audio capture input, Alsamixer does not work with my realtek ALC880 sound card
[21:57] <LordOfThePigs> I just need one that allows me to manually refresh the network list
[21:57] <|unjustice|> ?
[21:57] <anton> ah ich weiß wass es sit
[21:57] <mjw-> !wifi > LordOfThePigs
[21:57] <soleone> i can't find out how to start wordtrans-qt after installing, it hasn't been added to the applications-menu. somebody has a tip?
[21:57] <Detructor> Photocopy: lol?
[21:57] <Photocopy> Detructor: What?
[21:57] <Friez> since installing ubuntu lots of problem
[21:57] <MrObvious> Scenario: I've got an Ubuntu computer I want to act as a print server. I have a HP 3520 that will be hooked up via USB and one other Windows XP box that will print over the network to the Ubuntu print server. Any suggestions of how to accomplish this? I'm willing to read.
[21:57] <Friez> nothing can possible
[21:57] <[dcr]> !DC++
[21:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dc++ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:58] <Detructor> what for a soundcard do you have?
[21:58] <[dcr]> !DCPlusPlus
[21:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dcplusplus - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:58] <[dcr]> errr
[21:58] <Detructor> I've 3 entries ;)
[21:58] <[dcr]> Anyone know where I can get DC++ ?
[21:58] <Pici> !p2p | [dcr]
[21:58] <ubotu> [dcr]: Peer-to-peer filesharing clients are available for several networks/protocols, including !BitTorrent, !Gnutella, !eDonkey, !DirectConnect, !SoulSeek - Multi-protocol engines include !MLDonkey and !giFT - See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information
[21:58] <Detructor> with 2(!) Soundcards
[21:58] <Photocopy> Detructor: SB Live
[21:58] <[dcr]> whoa xD thanks
[21:58] <MrObvious> !print
[21:58] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[21:58] <danj> Hello
[21:58] <Friez> and no one what help on official chat room also
[21:58] <|unjustice|> Photocopy: ?
[21:58] <Photocopy> Detructor: SB Live CT4620
[21:58] <Friez> hello
[21:58] <Detructor> kay..
[21:58] <Friez> what i have to man ?
[21:58] <Photocopy> |unjustice|: ?
[21:58] <danj> Is there any Lenovo 3000 n200 user online ???
[21:58] <Petengy> knowing I have properly (and working) installed ALSA driver for my 82801H (ICH8 Family) sound system.... someone know how to get internal mic to work ?
[21:59] <Friez> why this porblem :: Panic: Failed to initialize GTK ???
[21:59] <Detructor> Photocopy: try to set that entry that is used in the "sound" menu for sound input...
[21:59] <Detructor> that should work o_0
[21:59] <none> Hi ... where do I find more information on /etc/event.d ?
[21:59] <danj> Is there any Lenovo 3000 n200 user online ???  pls gimme a private message !!!!!!!!!!!!!
[21:59] <Photocopy> Detructor: None of the entries shown in Audacity match.
[22:00] <mjw-> !repeat > danj
[22:00] <none> danj: whats the problem?
[22:00] <Detructor> o_0
[22:00] <Detructor> okay...
[22:00] <Photocopy> Detructor: The sound preferences sound capture setting is set to "alsa" quite simply, with no description of what actual device its using
[22:00] <Detructor> then I've don't idea...without: try and fail
[22:00] <danj> cant get my wireless card work, strange coss i read that there should be no problem :(
[22:00] <Detructor> oh
[22:00] <Detructor> errh
[22:00] <Detructor> damn
[22:00] <danj> but my wifi led still off, cant get it work
[22:00] <Photocopy> Detructor: Ive tried all the options in audacity to no avail
[22:01] <Detructor> ok...
[22:01] <prince_jammys> Photocopy: sound coming from the wrong card or no sound at all?
[22:01] <Detructor> then I've definetly no idea :(
[22:01] <none> danj: is it a Intel 4965 AG?
[22:01] <danj> yess
[22:01] <Photocopy> prince_jammys: Cant get my mic to work in audacity
[22:01] <danj> none: yes , it is
[22:01] <prince_jammys> Photocopy: oh THAT -- i don't remember the solution for that, sorry.
[22:02] <none> danj: i guessed on that ... does lspci show the device?
[22:02] <danj> i think no
[22:02] <prince_jammys> Photocopy: tried the forums?
[22:02] <danj> and as i said, led is off
[22:02] <danj> and there is no switch for wifi, there is only one for bluetoth
[22:02] <Photocopy> prince_jammys: I dont understsand why you think I'd do that?
[22:03] <spleencheesemonk> help needed. i backed up my evolution and restored it onto another computer but have a different home directory path (username).  when i send email now i get the following message :
[22:03] <spleencheesemonk> "Failed to append to mbox:/home/richard/.evolution/mail/local#Sent: Cannot get folder: /home/<username>/.evolution/mail/local: No such file or directory
[22:03] <spleencheesemonk> Appending to local `Sent' folder instead."
[22:03] <spleencheesemonk> Any ideas how i point evolution to my new sent folder path?
[22:03] <none> danj: hmmm, sounds said .... are you sure ... what about some BIOS settings?
[22:03] <Detructor> danj: try to reboot and when GRUB is showing, push the WiFi button...that should work...
[22:03] <none> said=sad
[22:03] <danj> Destructor, there is no wifi button
[22:03] <Detructor> o_0
[22:04] <lollo> ok but the files that i can find in a .trash folder there aren't in the " main" trash (the icon on the desktop) ...
[22:04] <Detructor> but it's about a WiFi buildin?!
[22:04] <none> danj: what about Fn-F5?
[22:04] <NorthernLights> Hello, sorry xchat took me while i asked for nothing
[22:04] <profoak> I am trying to run STEAM through WINE and i installed steam ok but whenever i try to load steam, it says STEAM is trying to display a web page through HTML and that I need Gecko installed but i have Gecko 2.0 installed
[22:04] <danj> doesnt work
[22:04] <danj> nothing happend
[22:04] <none> danj: bios settings?
[22:05] <Detructor> profoak: enter "wine iexplore http://www.google.de"
[22:05] <danj> default ??
[22:05] <none> danj: you have to check it.
[22:05] <Detructor> if that page is displayed, you've gecko installed for wine
[22:05] <none> danj: i'm only guessing
[22:05] <danj> yes, but didnt find any wifi setings
[22:05] <Lifeisfunny> I have a problem opening the Firestarter gui,  can someone offer a work-around?
[22:05] <none> danj: there is a homepage for ibm laptops .... have you seen this?
[22:06] <Detructor> danj: last idea that works for a friend: boot up with windows, activate the wifi and than shutdown and start ubuntu...
[22:06] <nn_ds> hi all
[22:06] <danj> yes m didnt find help, worse is that i didnt check it on windows, i started from instaling ubuntu
[22:06] <Photocopy> prince_jammys: K well i guess i can revert it bvack to the normal ubuntu.
[22:06] <Lifeisfunny> the gnome applications menu has me using the   gksudo /usr/bin/firestarter   as a command.
[22:06] <none> danj: any firmware loading problem in dmesg?
[22:06] <prince_jammys> Photocopy: what do you mean?
[22:07] <nn_ds> For some reason static ip configuration is not adding a gatewaty route to the routing table table
[22:07] <Photocopy> prince_jammys: What good is ubuntu studio without a working mic? It just takes up space then
[22:07] <nn_ds> is there a way to fix this
[22:07] <prince_jammys> Photocopy: oh right , i didnt know you had ubuntu studio.  but i'm sure there's a fix for your problem.  it's just that nobody here seems to know
[22:08] <danj> got some info on dmesg
[22:08] <none> danj: http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/lenovo.html
[22:08] <danj> i read it
[22:09] <profoak> Detructor - that worked than you, what did i do? did you just give a place to download gecko?
[22:09] <none> danj: http://www.dws.eclipse.co.uk/n200linux.html   wifi working as default
[22:09] <prince_jammys> !ubuntustudio | Photocopy
[22:09] <ubotu> Photocopy: UbuntuStudio is a collection of packages for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best Audio/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories. For more info and install instructions, join #ubuntustudio or see http://ubuntustudio.org
[22:09] <Detructor> profoak: if that works, gecko is installed correctly
[22:09] <koolkat> to get into a better collage, if i become an apache mirror.....does that count for anything?
[22:09] <Detructor> and should work with Steam
[22:09] <Detructor> btw. what version of wine do you use?
[22:10] <Photocopy> prince_jammys: Er? why did you do that?
[22:10] <profoak> Detructor- it brought up google.de in a window but it also gave me an insall box and i installed gecko again and steam worked
[22:10] <prince_jammys> Photocopy: the channel
[22:10] <Detructor> profoak: so all is okay?^^
[22:11] <danj> none: got something like that:  iwl4965: Radio disabled by HW RF Kill switch in dmesg
[22:11] <Detructor> errh...and profoak: remember, steam friends doesn't work!
[22:11] <Photocopy> prince_jammys: That channel is so dead
[22:11] <agroker> azureus core dumps, what can be the reason?
[22:11] <prince_jammys> Photocopy: oh
[22:11] <profoak> Detructor- ya Steam seems to be working fine, should i somehow stop people from sending me messages?
[22:11] <v_sec> If I ps should I see compiz as well as compiz.real ??
[22:12] <none> danj: thats good, as the device is detected ... can you see anything similary in lsmod ?
[22:12] <prince_jammys> Photocopy: shame, because you need someone who has had the same problem
[22:12] <Detructor> profoak: errhm...if someone sends you a message over steam friends, you don't see it...there is some trouble with the refresh of the GUI
[22:12] <_nando> my desktop is not refreshing, when I move an icon it just moves after a F5 hit... this happens only in my account ... any idea? (gutsy)
[22:12] <none> danj: which ubuntu distro/version are you using?
[22:12] <Photocopy> prince_jammys: or someone who troubleshooted the same problem
[22:12] <danj> none: got iwl mods loaded
[22:12] <none> danj: good
[22:12] <danj> 7.10 32 bit
[22:13] <prince_jammys> Photocopy: they tend to be one and the same :)
[22:13] <none> danj: can you see the  MAC adresse with "ifconfig wlan0" ?
[22:13] <none> danj: the distro is supporting the hardware
[22:13] <MatBoy> is there a good fix to use the Nvidia drivers on a Feisty Fawn install with a Gutsy kernel ?
[22:13] <profoak> Detructor- as long as it doesnt crash steam im fine
[22:13] <Detructor> ;)
[22:13] <danj> none: wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1D:E0:6F:D9:15
[22:13] <none> danj: hey .. everything working fine :)
[22:13] <Detructor> okay...fine^^
[22:14] <v_sec> anyone know the difference between compiz and compiz.real?
[22:14] <none> danj: whats the problem? :)
[22:14] <danj> almost, led is off and i cant find wifi network that is near me
[22:14] <Detructor> compiz.real is the process...
[22:14] <danj> in netapplet i got : wireless disabled
[22:14] <none> danj: "iwlist scan" does this show you the wireless network?
[22:14] <Starnestommy> v_sec: compiz.real is the real binary, compiz is a shell script that sets up the right variables for compiz.real and launches it
[22:15] <danj> none: wlan0     Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down
[22:15] <Friez> hello
[22:15] <Friez> ppl
[22:15] <Geoffrey2> ok, any suggestions what to do when your print jobs seem to be going nowhere?
[22:15] <bluefoxx> ok, so i got my webcam up and running, and its now mounted in the spot i want to moniter, but i was wondering, is there some way i can have the video feed from it put into a little window like those ppl with the xcoffee thing did?
[22:15] <Friez> Panic: Failed to initialize GTK
[22:15] <Friez> what is this Panic: Failed to initialize GTK
[22:15] <MatBoy> there seems to be a bug in the Feisty Fawn kernel so you can't read out MotherBoard sensors
[22:15] <none> danj: sorry .... first "ifconfig wlan0 up" ... then the "iwlist scan"
[22:15] <Friez> when running a program via bash
[22:15] <Friez> it display : Panic: Failed to initialize GTK ???
[22:16] <Friez> what 's this
[22:16] <Friez> what i have to do ?
[22:16] <v_sec> Starnestommy: I don't seem to have control over what compiz can and can't do- eg. I enable "Water effect" in ccsm but I can't use it... Any ideas?
[22:16] <Starnestommy> Friez: sounds like a bug in GTK? Do you have libgtk2.0 and libgtk2.0-dev installed?
[22:16] <danj> none: SIOCSIFFLAGS: Input/output error
[22:16] <Drk_Guy> v_sec: Just go to actions, and enable the key bindings
[22:16] <Friez> wait
[22:16] <bascule> danj: killall NetworkManager
[22:17] <bascule> and NetworkManagerDispatcher
[22:17] <blackvd> how do you restart the gnome-panels?
[22:17] <none>  0+
[22:17] <iter> there needs to be an #ubuntu-level2 for harder questions
[22:17] <v_sec> Starnestommy: also, things like "Wobbly windows" are turned off in ccsm, but my wobbly windows are working!?
[22:17] <Geoffrey2> I have evince loaded, with a pdf displayed....I bring up the print menu, select the printer, click the print button....nothing
[22:17] <iter> Geoffrey2: can you print to PDF ?
[22:17] <bascule> iter: there is, you pay for it ... ;)
[22:17] <iter> I would rather staff it :p
[22:17] <none> danj: did lsmod show: iwl4965 + iwlwifi_mac80211 + cfg80211 ?
[22:17] <Thirsteh> v_sec, believe they're enabled (in a different manner) via "Animations"
[22:18] <Geoffrey2> iter, why would I want to print TO pdf when what I want to print IS a pdf?
[22:18] <MatBoy> no-one running Gutsy with Nvidia drivers ?
[22:18] <Starnestommy> MatBoy: I am
[22:18] <Ikkeson> my first entry in the ubuntu chat is a question: I have a Medion laptop and i can't get my wireless network to work. It states that my radio is off but i can't seem to turn it on. Any1 having an idea? I found something on the dutch ubuntu pages but the link was dead
[22:18] <v_sec> MatBoy: yes, i am
[22:18] <iter> Geoffrey2: to begin troubleshooting the print process?
[22:18] <MatBoy> Starnestommy, what kernel version ? v_sec please tell me too :)
[22:18] <MatBoy> 2.6.22-14 seems to break the driver
[22:18] <v_sec> 2.6.22-14-generic
[22:19] <Starnestommy> I have that, too
[22:19] <Thirsteh> need more specifics
[22:19] <Starnestommy> seems to be working fine.
[22:19] <v_sec> MatBoy: yeah, I had that problem too, are you using restricted-drivers?
[22:19] <MatBoy> ok, nice, what have you both done to make the nvidia driver run ? I have to reinstall every boot those packages and XFCE is not woring that wel thann
[22:20] <MatBoy> -n
[22:20] <Friez> Starnestommy: libgtk2.0 already been installed but not libgtk2.0-dev
[22:20] <MatBoy> v_sec, yep
[22:20] <Detructor> ikkeson: does your laptop have a button for the WLAN to turn it on/off ?
[22:20] <Starnestommy> Friez: install libgtk2.0-dev
[22:20] <Jamesinator> When I try to change my resolution to 1280x1024, my desktop size increases but my resolution doesn't change. Now I'm scrolling around a huge desktop while still being stuck in 1024x768.
[22:20] <Friez> i just launch the installation
[22:20] <MatBoy> v_sec, possible to fix ?
[22:20] <v_sec> hmmm.... i couldn't get it to work with that- i downloaded them right from nvidia
[22:20] <Thirsteh> matboy, running with the latest nvidia drivers via Envy, works fine
[22:20] <mjw-> !envy
[22:20] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[22:20] <Geoffrey2> sigh....ok, I found the problem.....
[22:21] <Ikkeson> detructor: yep but that button is not working. I saw on the dutch forum that several ppl had the same problem
[22:21] <Friez> nothing change
[22:21] <iter> Geoffrey2: what was it
[22:21] <Photocopy> prince_jammys: ill check back every day, but I really wanna get my recording underway.
[22:21] <MatBoy> Thirsteh, mhh ok... I was looking into that, but I need my own XFCE config because of 4 screens
[22:21] <Photocopy> rhyme lol
[22:21] <Thirsteh> Envy isn't recommended, but the nvidia driver currently in the repository just happens to have an extremely nasty bug that causes a complete freeze on FX cards
[22:21] <Friez> Starnestommy: notthing change after the installation
[22:21] <Thirsteh> which I happen to have
[22:21] <Friez> Panic: Failed to initialize GTK
[22:21] <Friez> again
[22:21] <Detructor> ikkeson: I had the same problem: the solution for me was: rebooting and when GRUBD is displayed I've to push the button ;)
[22:21] <MatBoy> ok, so what should be a good solution now than
[22:21] <Starnestommy> Friez: what's the first line of the shell script?
[22:22] <Detructor> GRUB not GRUBD
[22:22] <mad_max02> I have this strange high frequency sound coming out of my case. I'm sure its pcspeaker. I muted him in alsa-mixer and removed and blacklisted mod. Anyone have any other idea ? I dont wanna disconnect it from mobo.
[22:22] <Geoffrey2> apparently the settings from my last print job were saved, so instead of defaulting to print all, it was trying to print page 3 of a 1 page document......
[22:22] <mad_max02> I forgot: it is present when ever I play audio.
[22:22] <Ikkeson> so there is no way to turn it off and on using bash??
[22:22] <MatBoy> v_sec, how did you solve it ?
[22:22] <blizzkid> lo all, anyone can help me troubleshoot postfix and mailman integration? I keep getting user unknown errors
[22:22] <Friez> > chmod +x xtensoftphone
[22:22] <doc|work> mad_max02: I'd just remove it, it's not like they're useful anyway
[22:22] <Detructor> ikkeson: don't know...but I think not
[22:23] <Ikkeson> detructor: because always on drains the battery like hell
[22:23] <v_sec> Starnestommy: in Appearance > Visual Effects I have it set to "custom" and when i click Prefernces ccsm comes up with all the stuff that should / shouldnt be working incorrectly. any ideas?
[22:23] <Friez> to run the program i have to do > ./xtensoftphone
[22:23] <mad_max02> doc|work, yeah but I dont wanna do that as only solution.
[22:23] <Detructor> Ikkeson: damn...sorry I don't have any other idea
[22:23] <Detructor> *think*
[22:23] <Detructor> wait
[22:23] <mad_max02> what is related to pc speaker except its mod ?
[22:23] <Detructor> I can disable it at any time
[22:24] <Friez> this is the tuto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56140/
[22:24] <Detructor> but only enable it on GRUB start
[22:24] <Ikkeson> detructor thanks anyway
[22:24] <Detructor> maybe it's the same for you?
[22:24] <Ikkeson> i will try that
[22:24] <Jamesinator> When I try to change my resolution to 1280x1024, my desktop size increases but my resolution doesn't change. Now I'm scrolling around a huge desktop while still being stuck in 1024x768.
[22:24] <v_sec> MatBoy: download the 100.14.19 package from nvidia and use it to install
[22:24] <MatBoy> v_sec, ok :) will do that :D
[22:24] <Detructor> ikkeson: would be fine if you come back and report ;)
[22:24] <Ikkeson> i will
[22:24] <antonsky> hi
[22:24] <Starnestommy> Friez: is there a website or source distribution of that?
[22:24] <Detructor> ikkeson: kay
[22:24] <Geoffrey2> I must admit, that's rather weird that the program would simply assume the last page range you specified would be what you wanted to print on everything from that point forward
[22:25] <MatBoy> v_sec, I will let you know
[22:25] <Ikkeson> so i will be beack
[22:25] <Ikkeson> cya later
[22:25] <Detructor> kk
[22:25] <Detructor> cu
[22:25] <Friez> everyone know this soft
[22:25] <fancy> hi there, just installed ubuntu..
[22:25] <v_sec> MatBoy: k, see you soon
[22:25] <Friez> this xlite
[22:25] <Detructor> fine ;)
[22:25] <Friez> sip softphone
[22:25] <mjw-> !hi | fancy
[22:25] <ubotu> fancy: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[22:25] <MatBoy> v_sec, I'm 24H a day on IRC ;)
[22:25] <Detructor> v_sec hey, we had a perfect timing ;)
[22:26] <Friez> on my old computer in ubuntu work fine
[22:26] <Friez> but not on new one
[22:26] <Jamesinator> When I try to change my resolution to 1280x1024, my desktop size increases but my resolution doesn't change.
[22:26] <fancy> When i boot now, in grub menu, there are ubuntu, ubuntu mem and xp partition
[22:26] <v_sec> Detructor: huh?
[22:26] <ompaul> Friez, what version are you trying to install on the new computer?
[22:26] <fancy> when you dont touch keyboard for 10 secs, ubuntu loads...
[22:26] <v_sec> oh, haha
[22:27] <fancy> how can i change this to xp (for my dad)
[22:27] <Friez> there is only one version for linux
[22:27] <Friez> and latest one
[22:27] <Detructor> v_sec: "(23:24:25) Ikkeson: i will try that" (my "client")
[22:27] <Detructor> (23:24:43) MatBoy: v_sec, ok :) will do that :D (your "client")
[22:27] <Friez> version 2.O
[22:27] <CyanideD> how do i play mp3s
[22:27] <v_sec> Detructor: heh
[22:27] <Detructor> nearly perfect I would say :D
[22:27] <en3r0> hi all
[22:27] <Detructor> hy
[22:27] <Thirsteh> MatBoy, really recommend you use Envy to install the latest nvidia driver. For one it's easier and you only have to click your mouse 3 times, but most importantly it doesn't cause a conflict between the restricted manager and the nvidia driver (causing problems with being able to load Compiz etc.)
[22:28] <Friez> the same version on both compter
[22:28] <mjw-> !grub > fancy
[22:28] <Thirsteh> MatBoy, it's as simple as going to http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html , getting "Envy New", installing it and running it
[22:28] <ompaul> Friez, ohh you are talking sip not ubuntu - you did not write it on one line so you did not come across well and so I misunderstood what you were saying
[22:28] <MatBoy> Thirsteh, I run Linux or years already, but this was an odd issue
[22:28] <Qwexer> can I change my video driver in terminal?
[22:29] <peanutwithchocol> hello everybody, does anybody know how to skip fsck at the ubuntu boot, because it EVERY startup begin to check two fats partitions I have, and the startup is a bit long, and, by the way, it also leave the graphic mode a moment, and then fsck intialises text mode, and then come back to normal mode at gdm screen
[22:29] <CyanideD> how do i play mp3
[22:29] <MatBoy> Detructor, I didn't get it btw ?
[22:29] <Friez> i try to install xlite on my ubuntu computer
[22:29] <peanutwithchocol> Cyanide: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:29] <Thirsteh> I'm not doubting your competency, I'm just suggesting taking the easier route because the restricted drivers manager is gonna tackle you hard unless you edit its source (or use Envy which converts the nvidia package into a .deb called 'nvidia-glx-new' hence making the restricted manager think it's just a newer version of the normal driver)
[22:30] <peanutwithchocol> CyanideD: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:30] <en3r0> anyone here against scientology?
[22:30] <mjw-> !ot > en3r0
[22:30] <CyanideD> Peanut what the cmd line
[22:30] <Detructor> MatBoy: it was about that v_sec and me have the "solution" at the same minute for you and the other guy ;)
[22:30] <MatBoy> Thirsteh, you have a point there :) I first will try the older version O ?
[22:30] <MatBoy> O
[22:30] <MatBoy> OK ?
[22:31] <MatBoy> Detructor, life can be fun :)
[22:31] <Thirsteh> MatBoy, hmm? Of Envy? Well, take the one that lists your card
[22:31] <Friez> i try to install xlite on my ubuntu computer using this instruction : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56140/ when i start to run this command ./xtensoftphone it display :Panic: Failed to initialize GTK
[22:31] <Detructor> yep :)
[22:31] <en3r0> alright, will keep on topic!
[22:31] <Friez> i try to install xlite on my ubuntu computer using this instruction : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56140/ when i start to run this command ./xtensoftphone it display :Panic: Failed to initialize GTK
[22:31] <peanutwithchocol> CyanideD: do you live in the usa?
[22:32] <MatBoy> Thirsteh, no the direct driver
[22:32] <CyanideD> yes i do Peanut
[22:32] <EnderTheThird> Is there  a better way to track CPU usage than System Monitor?  It's showing 100% usage in resources, but processes is showing jack for usage so I  don't know what's slowing this computer down
[22:32] <Friez> what i have to do know ?
[22:32] <Thirsteh> MatBoy, ah yeah, sorry. Sure
[22:32] <Detructor> enderthethird: type "top" in terminal ;)
[22:32] <NigelS> EnderTheThird: use top, or ps
[22:32] <MatBoy> Thirsteh, first alway sthe hard way :P
[22:32] <Detructor> 1 second faster :P
[22:33] <EnderTheThird> gnome-panel's the culprit apparently.   odd.
[22:33] <peanutwithchocol> CyanideD: you can't install the ubuntu restricted extras in your country because is not legal
[22:33] <L3ttuc3> Detructor i think he's talking IO, that wont show up in top either, ive had that problem too. :(
[22:33] <Hilikus> hey guys
[22:33] <CyanideD> ive done it before on 6.06
[22:33] <pike_> EnderTheThird: did you update today? ive seen several complaints about cpu usage in gnome-panel today
[22:33] <Detructor> Lettuc3: who?
[22:34] <MatBoy> peanutwithchocol, I'm really lost in that legal and illegal part
[22:34] <Petengy> someone know how to make working an internal mic of a laptop (dell)???
[22:34] <Detructor> *L3ttuc3
[22:34] <EnderTheThird> pike_: yep.  haven't restarted yet because I'm SSH'd to my home PC.
[22:34] <peanutwithchocol> CyanideD: I don't know very well because I live in the European Union, but i have heared the are some codecs to play mp3 you can install, and they are legal, but i don't know how to get them
[22:34] <Hilikus> im writing a script to backup my ubuntu server, and im usinf mysqldump to backup the DB but it says it doesnt have access from root user no password, but i dotn want to write a password in plain text in the script, how can i deal with this?
[22:34] <CyanideD> ok then
[22:35] <CyanideD> anyone know the cmd line to unstall mp3
[22:35] <L3ttuc3> Detructor what you said about top. when system monitor shows activity sometimes, in the panel, using top will not show what process is actually causing the use, if it is queued io requests or whatever.
[22:35] <pike_> EnderTheThird: could have been a bug introduced sounds like
[22:35] <MatBoy> Thirsteh, but the advantage of the envy way is ? I need to make my own xorg.conf still because I have 4 monitors on 2 cards
[22:35] <EnderTheThird> pike_:  strange thing is that it's showing a different user than the one i'm actually logged in under.
[22:35]  * woodsoul needs coffee %)
[22:35] <L3ttuc3> Detructor at least, thats what i thought, i dont know.
[22:35] <pike_> EnderTheThird: it should not
[22:35] <xyblor> how do I restart the x server after I make changes to xorg.conf?
[22:36] <peanutwithchocol> CyanideD: sudo aptitude purge ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:36] <Detructor> L3ttuc3: errh...okay ;) now I get it^^
[22:36] <Friez> hello
[22:36] <Friez> i try to install xlite on my ubuntu computer using this instruction : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56140/ when i start to run this command ./xtensoftphone it display :Panic: Failed to initialize GTK
[22:36] <L3ttuc3> xyblor usually logging out and back in should do the trick.
[22:36] <pike_> EnderTheThird: if it is opened as another user anything it launches will have that users perm pref that should not be
[22:36] <rufus_> Hello, maybe someone can help me with http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4338548#post4338548 ?
[22:36] <Thirsteh> MatBoy, the advantage is you get the latest drivers, not the "stable" driver locked in the repository. There is no real downside as far as I can tell, it doesn't cause any conflicts because it acts like a new version of the standard driver and it's as easy to uninstall as typing 'sudo envy --remove-all' (if a new standard driver is released etc, nothing will break)
[22:36] <Detructor> CyaneideD: don't do that!
[22:36] <Friez> what's up ?
[22:36] <Detructor> ubuntu-restricted-extras is a meta package!
[22:36] <Thirsteh> MatBoy, for me, the stable driver caused freezes which I couldn't even SysRq out of X from, so it was ...heh, necessary
[22:37] <pike_> EnderTheThird: so ps aux | grep gnome-panel  shows a diff user?
[22:37] <Detructor> you will loose things like java as well
[22:37] <xyblor> rufus_: it doesn't seem to work, but maybe I just haven't made significant enough changes to xorg.conf to notice a change
[22:37] <MatBoy> Thirsteh, ok
[22:37] <doc|work> anyone know how to get the configure options for php? phpinfo() isn't reporting them
[22:37] <Friez> ompaul:  ??
[22:37] <EnderTheThird> one sec
[22:37] <|unjustice|> "Error setting up inter-process communications for KDE"
[22:37] <|unjustice|> "Please check that the "dcopserver is running"
[22:38] <|unjustice|> anyone know what DCOP server is?
[22:38] <mysterycool> how can i compile code?
[22:38] <Thirsteh> Detructor, 'sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-restricted-extras' removes dependencies, 'sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-restricted-extras' doesn't.
[22:38] <DaveG|> Hi, i've been playing about with the Screens and Graphics settings, and now text in the GDM and aMSN are now too small to read... Anyone have any ideas?
[22:38] <ompaul> Friez,  my answer was based on the fact that over many lines I thought one thing, when in fact I later discovered you are talking about sip not ubuntu - you did not write it on one line so you did not come across well and so I misunderstood what you were saying
[22:38] <Pricey> !compile | mysterycool
[22:38] <ubotu> mysterycool: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[22:38] <mysterycool> ty :)
[22:39] <|unjustice|> mysterycool: by using gcc or g++ programs that often come with ubuntu
[22:39] <Detructor> Thirsteh: o_0 isn't aptitude the standard packaging tool for KDE?
[22:39] <rufus_> Hello, maybe someone can help me with http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4338548#post4338548 ?
[22:39] <node_6> hi all
[22:39] <|unjustice|> hi
[22:39] <Starnestommy> Detructor: adept is, iirc.  Aptitude is command-line
[22:39] <Thirsteh> Detructor, Aptitude is a CLI front-end to the APT library, same as apt-get
[22:39] <CyanideD> that worked Peanut thanks
[22:39] <node_6> I added a repo for wine so that I could have more current packages.  How do I tell apt to disregard the wine packages in the standard repo?
[22:40] <Detructor> I've changed them again, damn >.< sorry
[22:40] <Thirsteh> Aptitude is the recommended default by Debian, but Ubuntu still seems to use apt-get, I don't know if that will change
[22:40] <mysterycool> Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[22:40] <mysterycool>  'Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016)'
[22:40] <mysterycool> in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[22:40] <mysterycool> :s
[22:40] <DaveG|> Hi, i've been playing about with the Screens and Graphics settings, and now text in the GDM and aMSN are now too small to read... Anyone have any ideas?
[22:40] <Thirsteh> the main difference is that aptitude removes unused dependencies by default, apt-get doesn't, unless you do apt-get autoremove
[22:40] <Thirsteh> so it boils down to: chaos if you remove metapackages with aptitude, but not with apt-get
[22:41] <L3ttuc3> Thirsteh what about synaptic?
[22:41] <mysterycool> Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[22:41] <mysterycool>  'Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016)'
[22:41] <mysterycool> in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[22:41] <mysterycool> why does that happen? :S
[22:41] <node_6> remove the cd-rom line from your sources.list file
[22:41] <Thirsteh> L3ttuc3, Synaptic is a GUI front-end to the apt-get APT library abstraction, ehhr.. It's apt-get :)
[22:41] <Detructor> because you have the cd in your package sources
[22:41] <node_6> (just comment it out with #)
[22:41] <node_6> I added a repo for wine so that I could have more current packages.  How do I tell apt to disregard the wine packages in the standard repo?
[22:41] <DaveG|> Hi, i've been playing about with the Screens and Graphics settings, and now text in the GDM and aMSN are now too small to read... Anyone have any ideas?
[22:41] <CyanideD> now could i get some help with get my desktop on to my tv i had it there before i move over to linux this is only my 6th day on it om a ex-windows user
[22:41] <Thirsteh> I'm not sure Aptitude has any GTK/QT gui yet, but the builtin ncurses gui is pretty nice
[22:42] <L3ttuc3> Thirsteh is there a way to get synaptic to remove dependencies (whole metapackage and inclusions) like you were saying aptitude does by default?
[22:42] <Slart> node_6: I don
[22:42] <EnderTheThird> pike_:  yeah, one of them is a different user
[22:42] <rufus_> Hello, maybe someone can help me with http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4338548#post4338548 ?
[22:42] <vinc1> hi
[22:42] <Slart> node_6: I dont't think you have to.. since the one from the wine repo will be newer
[22:42] <rufus_> I would really like to figure this out
[22:42] <vinc1> how to check ubuntu release ?
[22:42] <mysterycool> sudo apt-get install build-essential -> i type this and something wrong happens :S
[22:43] <Slart> vinc1: lsb_release -a
[22:43] <EnderTheThird> can i manually log another user off from the CLI?
[22:43] <Friez> ok thx
[22:43] <Friez> i find it
[22:43] <Slart> EnderTheThird: you can kill all his processes... install "slay"
[22:43] <Thirsteh> L3ttuc3, I don't know really, I've never actually wanted to remove everything a metapackage linked to -- but, even though mixing apt-get and aptitude isn't recommended, I guess, theoretically, you could just do 'sudo aptitude remove <metapackage>' as a onetime thing
[22:43] <Slart> !info slay
[22:43] <ubotu> slay (source: slay): Kills all of the user's processes. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1 (gutsy), package size 10 kB, installed size 76 kB
[22:43] <node_6> Slart:  agreed on that point. however I have several scripts that use 'apt-config show' and I don't want two "wine"'s in the list
[22:43] <mysterycool> sudo apt-get install build-essential -> i type this and something wrong happens :S
[22:43] <mysterycool> help plz with compiling a program! :s
[22:43] <doc|work> so, anyone know how to get the configure options when php -i and phpinfo() don't return them?
[22:44] <woodsoul|away> mysterycool: uncheck in synaptic --> settings --> repos install from cd-rom
[22:44] <node_6> Slart: I was thinking there was a way to exclude specific pacakges
[22:44] <Slart> node_6: well.. I have no idea how to fix that for you.. perhaps someone else does
[22:44] <node_6> np. thanks :)
[22:44] <mysterycool> huh??
[22:44] <L3ttuc3> Thirsteh why do you say mixing them is ill advised? arent they all part of the same package management system?
[22:44] <Slart> mysterycool: something wrong happens??... way to be descriptive
[22:44] <thinman1189> I'm really confused. updates just recommended a new intel xorg driver. the thing is that I don't have any intel in my comp, unless intel owns one of the parts companies. my cpu is amd 64 and my gpu is nvidia. "This package provides the driver for the Intel i8xx and i9xx family of chipsets, including i810, i815, i830, i845, i855, i865, i915, i945 and i965 series chips." Why is it offering me this and should I be worried that it's incorrect
[22:44] <mysterycool> >.>
[22:44] <EnderTheThird> pike_:  killing that user's processes brought my CPU usage back down.
[22:45] <MatBoy> Thirsteh, what is the real advantage of that envy when you still have to make your own xorg.conf ?
[22:45] <pike_> EnderTheThird: k. it should respawn did it?
[22:45] <mysterycool> slart: i am trying to compile a program that i downloaded but i do what it says on the guides ive been told to check out from this channel but it doesnt work. :S
[22:45] <seon> hello do you know an equivalent of thunderbird i can use without export conditions
[22:45] <NigelS> thinman1189: a driver being installed doesn't mean that you're using it - your system will have drivers available for a wide range of hardware
[22:45] <ensignchirps> By your command, type ensignchirps status report if you require assistance
[22:45] <Ikkeson> Detructor: Bad news!!! I didn't work
[22:45] <EnderTheThird> pike_:  no.  that user isn't (or shouldn't be) logged in right now
[22:45] <NMajik> How can I resolve this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56142/? (Sorry I can't be more specific, but I really don't know what I'm looking at)
[22:46] <Slart> mysterycool: ok.. you type "sudo apt-get install build-essential".. what's the result?
[22:46] <Thirsteh> L3ttuc3, they are, and the immediate danger is a one-way thing really. The problem is, if you install a bunch of packages with apt-get deliberately and then later on decide to begin uninstalling with aptitude, aptitude won't know what packages you deliberately installed (i.e. NOT unused dependencies) and start removing stuff you might need
[22:46] <Detructor> Ikkeson: sorry for that...
[22:46] <Ikkeson> np
[22:46] <vinc1> thank u Slart
[22:46] <Detructor> I don't have any other idea
[22:46] <EnderTheThird> pike_:  that user is set to auto-login though.  i wonder if that's part of the reason behind it after the update.  i'll need to see what happens after i restart
[22:46] <Slart> seon: "export conditions"?? explain please
[22:46] <Detructor> Ikkeson: try to ask in the forum
[22:46] <leeping_> Hey there .. I've crashed to the initramfs during a startup
[22:46] <Ikkeson> i will
[22:46] <leeping_> Is there an analog of dmesg that I can use in the initramfs??
[22:46] <Thirsteh> MatBoy, you don't. Just tell it to not touch the xorg.config. The only thing it needs is "nvidia" as the module, and you can run with your old config, unless your config is simply invalid with newer drivers
[22:47] <mysterycool> Slart: says some stuff then this:
[22:47] <mysterycool> After unpacking 31.9MB of additional disk space will be used.
[22:47] <mysterycool> Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
[22:47] <seon> Slart> us export conditions sorry , iran, north korea
[22:47] <Ikkeson> but do you know what info they need like iwconfig etc
[22:47] <Slart> mysterycool: and you press
[22:47] <cheesypieces> guys, how do i uninstall all kde packages in one swoop?
[22:47] <mysterycool> slart: y
[22:47] <pike_> EnderTheThird: i dont know but id xhost - just in case
[22:47] <Slart> mysterycool: and you press 'y' of course..
[22:47] <Ikkeson> because i always have t restart my system
[22:47] <thinman1189> nigels ok, thanks
[22:47] <mysterycool> slart: but it says now this: Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[22:47] <mysterycool>  'Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016)'
[22:47] <mysterycool> in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[22:47] <rufus_> Hello, maybe someone can help me with http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4338548#post4338548 ?
[22:47] <rufus_> I would really like to figure this out
[22:47] <MatBoy> Thirsteh, O, but the integration of the driver is much better ?
[22:47] <Slart> mysterycool: go to  System, administration, software sources
[22:48] <NigelS> NMajik: a java program isn't happy  - but which program?
[22:48] <|twiser|> mount: block device /dev/fd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[22:48] <|twiser|> mount: i could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified
[22:48] <Detructor> mysterycool: there have 2 guys said you how to get this message away!
[22:48] <woodsoul> mysterycool: uncheck in synaptic --> settings --> repos "install from cd-rom"
[22:48] <Slart> seon: I didn't know thunderbird contained anything restricted.. what could it be? encryption of mail?
[22:48] <Detructor> 3 guys now...
[22:48] <Slart> seon: what about the default mail software.. evolution
[22:48] <NMajik> NigelS: I'm trying to run the script called wrt54g.sh, detailed here http://www.batbox.org/wrt54g-linux.html
[22:48] <seon> Slart> mozilla has a restrictions
[22:48] <mysterycool> slart: i went there then what?
[22:48] <Thirsteh> MatBoy, I'm sorry I don't know what you mean
[22:49] <EnderTheThird> pike_:  i'm gonna restart and see if it pops up again
[22:49] <seon> Slart> is it ok to use encryption and import thunderbird email in evolution
[22:49] <Slart> mysterycool: do you see anything in there about a cd rom?
[22:49] <mysterycool> slart: no
[22:49] <MatBoy> TheMafia, the driver at all... better installation procedure always
[22:49] <Slart> mysterycool: look at the first page there.. nothing in the bottom half?
[22:50] <MatBoy> TheMafia, is there no commandline installer for envy ?
[22:50] <Slart> mysterycool: check the second page.. "Third-Party Softare".. anything that looks like a cd-rom there?
[22:50] <mysterycool> slart: ah yeah found it
[22:50] <Slart> !envy
[22:50] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[22:51] <Slart> mysterycool: try removing it
[22:51] <cheesypieces> guys, how do i uninstall all kde packages in one swoop?
[22:51] <CyanideD> !compiz
[22:51] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[22:51] <mysterycool> slart: remove..?
[22:51] <peter__> hi all
[22:51] <Slart> cheesypieces: something like sudo apt-get install kde.* ? it will be a lot of packages though
[22:51] <fancy> hi all tooo
[22:51] <elovattibr>  #ubuntu-br
[22:51] <mysterycool> slart: when i click it, there is an option called Revert
[22:51]  * kotsu waves
[22:51] <Slart> mysterycool: yes.. remove it.. delete it.. kill it with fire.. anything.. make it go away..
[22:51] <fancy> in macosx, there is expose (f9) , what is the same effect in Ubuntu ?
[22:52] <Slart> mysterycool: no, that just means "Cancel".. isn
[22:52] <cheesypieces> Slart: will that not install it all tho? i want to get rid of them all
[22:52] <Slart> cheesypieces: oh.. sorry.... mybad
[22:52] <NigelS> NMajik: this is strictly speaking nothing to do with ubuntu but it might well signify that your router doesn't like the request - is it the correct version? otherwise which version of java do you have installed?
[22:52] <CyanideD> can someo one help me with getting my desktop on to my tv. I had it there before i moved over to linux
[22:52] <Thirsteh> fancy, that dims everything but the focus window?
[22:52] <cheesypieces> i'm clicking thru each thing individually its taking ages, there must be a quicker way
[22:53] <Detructor> chhesypieces: sudo apt-get remove --purge kde*
[22:53] <mysterycool> slart: when i go to Authetication, there are two listings. One is Ubuntu Archieve Singing Key and the other one Ubuntu CD Image Automatic Singing Key
[22:53] <NMajik> NigelS: I figured this would be a good place to ask because it looks like an issue with my java install. How do I determine my version/reinstall cleanly?
[22:53] <mysterycool> slart: and if i click on one of them, there is a remove option
[22:53] <kotsu> Eh, not to interrupt, but the answer to mine might be short
[22:53] <fancy> Thirsteh, nope, it throws the windows away
[22:53] <Slart> mysterycool: nope.. either in Third party software or in ubuntu software
[22:53] <kotsu> I'm on a WinXP partition, just installed Feisty Fawn; it seems I've put the Swap partition after the Linux partition. Should I just go back, delete both the linux and swap partitions, and try again?
[22:53] <peter__> I am searching for a program that can analyze logfiles does anyone have a tip ?
[22:53] <Thirsteh> Detructor, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[22:53] <Detructor> Thirsteh?
[22:54] <Thirsteh> cheesypieces, sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop if you absolutely have to
[22:54] <mysterycool> slarth: nothing about cd on those sections
[22:54] <mysterycool> slart: nothing about cd on those sections
[22:54] <Slart> mysterycool: hang on.. let me check.. it's supposed to be there
[22:54] <Detructor> or so...
[22:54] <Detructor> it's the same
[22:54] <mysterycool> slart: k
[22:54] <Thirsteh> fancy, hmm, there's a plugin you can enable in the advanced compiz settings that makes the "Show Desktop" button in the lower left in Gnome do something similar
[22:54] <cheesypieces> Detructor: yep that works, thanks
[22:54] <Thirsteh> it's just called "Show Desktop" I think
[22:55] <Detructor> and maybe sudo apt-get autoremove
[22:55] <NigelS> NMajik: you may be using the gcj release rather than suns - if you use synaptic you can find your java installs - just search for those, if you don't have the sun jre then install that - to choose between them in future you can use the update-alternatives --config java
[22:55] <Thirsteh> Detructor, no, it really isn't.
[22:55] <Detructor> it is * is a wildcard
[22:55] <Thirsteh> Yes, but your command is insane
[22:55] <Detructor> it works :P
[22:55] <Thirsteh> And it won't remove all of Kubuntu
[22:56] <Detructor> it will, over dependencies...you'll have to run sudo apt-get autoremove
[22:56] <woodsoul> fight ;]
[22:56] <kbrooks> this will:
[22:56] <kbrooks> this will ---------------------------
[22:56] <Thirsteh> Any package that's only used in KDE but not actually called 'kde' (libkde*, arts, etc) won't be removed
[22:56] <cheesypieces> well thats most of them anyway, thanks for that
[22:56] <Slart> mysterycool: ok.. on that first page.. "ubuntu software".. at the bottom there are some text.. "ubuntu cd gutsy bla bla". .with a checkbox to the left of it.. right?
[22:56] <Thirsteh> Detructor, and well, it's simply dangerous
[22:56] <Detructor> Thirsteh: but then they are *not relevant* and will be wiped away with autoremove
[22:56] <cheesypieces> btw getting rid of kubuntu-desktop gets rid of hardly any
[22:56] <Slart> mysterycool: something like this http://www.watchingthenet.com/uploads/Image/ubuntupm3.png
[22:57] <pretender_> how can i remote desktop from my XP pc to my ubuntu pc
[22:57] <Slart> pretender_: use vnc or similar
[22:57] <mysterycool> slart: yeah
[22:57] <Thirsteh> Detructor, using wildcards like that with something as dangerous as a --purge toggle isn't exactly a good way of doing things
[22:57] <Detructor> Thirsteh: dangerous is sudo rm -f /
[22:57] <hambobo> how do i mount a volume
[22:57] <Slart> mysterycool: uncheck that cd thingy.. ie click on the checkmark so it disappears
[22:57] <CyanideD> my chat window froze on me i had to restart.
[22:58] <Slart> mysterycool: then click ok
[22:58] <pretender_> tried but its a little slow any way to improve it
[22:58] <CyanideD> Can someone help me with getting my desktop on to my tv, i had it there before i switched over to linux
[22:58]  * woodsoul|away is smoking a cigarette :Q
[22:59] <Slart> pretender_: well.. you can remove your wallpaper.. run with fewer colors etc.. or try that other one.. can't remember the name...
[22:59] <Slart> !vnc
[22:59] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[22:59] <MatBoy> Thirsteh, mhh it need to download some packages ;)
[22:59] <NMajik> NigelS: You were right I did have gcj and only bits and parts of sun's install. I'm downloading it now, will you be around for another 30 minutes or so?
[22:59] <kbrooks> !freenx
[22:59] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[22:59] <Slart> ah.. there it is.. freenx, pretender_
[22:59] <mysterycool> slart:
[22:59] <mysterycool> This usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that application first.
[22:59] <pretender_> ok thanks
[22:59] <rufus_> do ubuntu and Kubuntu use the same kernel?
[22:59] <MrObvious> !lamp
[22:59] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[22:59] <Slart> mysterycool: do you have synaptic running in the background?
[22:59] <Thirsteh> MatBoy, yeah a few to help it do the magic
[22:59] <NigelS> NMajik: most probably
[22:59] <MatBoy> Thirsteh, I hope so :)
[23:00] <mysterycool> er, what i have running? its just my first day on linux :s
[23:00] <fancy> Thirsteh, yes man Show Desktop did it..this is F10 in MacosX. Do you know what is f9 ? :P it cascades all the windows to desktop
[23:00] <Thirsteh> mysterycool, 'Add/Remove Programs' or 'Synaptic Package Manager' probably
[23:00] <Slart> mysterycool: synaptic.. the graphical application where you can install stuff... if you have it open.. close it
[23:00] <kbrooks> rufus_, *buntu are all based upon the same base
[23:00] <Slart> !synaptic > mysterycool
[23:01] <mysterycool> no i dont
[23:01] <MatBoy> Thirsteh, quite amazing that install
[23:01] <Thirsteh> fancy, no idea, sorry, but play around with the modules in compiz-config, there's a bunch that's deactivated
[23:01] <kotsu> Does it matter if the Swap partition comes before or after the Linux partitition (I'm trying to double boot, and my Linux install doesn't boot)
[23:01] <Malachi> Is there any way I can send a message to someone over SSH? I need a GUI dialogue box to appear.
[23:01] <kbrooks> kotsu, no
[23:01] <Slart> kotsu: nope
[23:01] <kbrooks> Malachi, yes
[23:01] <Thirsteh> MatBoy, a little easier than doing it all by hand, I'd say :)
[23:01] <kotsu> That is to say, I have a Windows install, a linux install, and a swap partition on my primary drive
[23:01] <Malachi> kbrooks: Oh, great. Do you know how?
[23:01] <Slart> Malachi: I don't think ssh can do that.. samba can
[23:01] <kotsu> In that order
[23:01] <kotsu> And the Windows boots from the get-go
[23:01] <Slart> kotsu: order doesn't matter
[23:01] <Malachi> Slart: That'd be fine, too. How?
[23:01] <CapTech> kotsu: It doesn't matter what order your logical drives are.
[23:01] <kbrooks> Malachi, there is a way which exploits a security vulnerability in ssh (which unfortunately is a bit too impractical to fix)
[23:02] <kbrooks> Slart, it can
[23:02] <scott25> can someone help me with my ipod, in amarok it says it could not create a lockfile on the ipod
[23:02] <MatBoy> Thirsteh, for surem thanks for convincing me :)
[23:02] <Slart> Malachi: smbclient -M 111.222.333.444
[23:02] <kbrooks> Slart, with X11 forwarding
[23:02] <mysterycool> slart: i dont
[23:02] <Syubi> ssh user@host is the syntax?
[23:02] <CyanideD> Can someone help me with getting my desktop on to my tv, i had it there before i switched over to linux
[23:02] <Malachi> kbrooks: Oh really? Ew. I smell Net Send problems if Linux gets a bit more mainstream....
[23:02] <Thirsteh> kotsu, it doesn't really matter. Some recommend putting Swap on the outer tracks ('Ending' of the drive in the partition manager, I think) but it's really a small difference if any
[23:02] <Malachi> Slart: Thanks.
[23:02] <kbrooks> Malachi, the remote host linux or windows please
[23:02] <Thirsteh> kotsu, so I wouldn't worry about it no
[23:02] <kotsu> So, then that's not the problem
[23:02] <Malachi> kbrooks: Both are Linux machines running Ubuntu.
[23:03] <Thirsteh> MatBoy, anytime
[23:03] <kotsu> But GRUB or however isn't working, if it was indeed installed by Feisty Fawn
[23:03] <FD_F> i`m runing ubuntu on vmware there is a way detect my 8800GT card ?
[23:03] <Slart> kbrooks: ah.. but that's part of x11 forwarding.. isnt't that like saying ssh can send email.... if you run an email client using a ssh console =)
[23:03] <kbrooks> Malachi, not so hard to do, here's the link ... (grabbing it)
[23:03] <MatBoy> Thirsteh, you are good ;)
[23:03] <Syubi> this syntax isn't working for me
[23:04] <Latina> Escriba el texto aquí........Hola buenas tardes
[23:04] <Slart> !es | latina
[23:04] <ubotu> latina: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[23:04] <Thirsteh> FD_F, no, I don't think so. The only virtualization software that really supports graphics acceleration is Parallels for Mac afaik
[23:04] <Thirsteh> MatBoy, heh, thanks
[23:04] <mysterycool> !compile | mysterycool
[23:04] <kbrooks> Malachi, http://www.hackinglinuxexposed.com/articles/20040608.html
[23:04] <saxofoner> Hey everyone, experienced user here, having some problems.  My sound was working on my Thinkpad T61p, but I was having a few issues, so I decided to install the new ALSA drivers.  Epic fail.  My sound card isn't even detected anymore.  I have the HDA Intel card that doesn't like ubuntu.  However, I HAVE had it working before.  I just need help totally purging alsa and starting over.
[23:04]  * woodsoul thought there isn't easier Gnu/Linux distro than ubuntu... 
[23:04] <Thirsteh> FD_F, oh and Vmware Fusion, also for Mac
[23:04] <JosiahW> can I sync and update my palm treo 700wx through ubuntu?
[23:05] <CyanideD> Can someone help me with getting my desktop on to my tv, i had it there before i switched over to linux
[23:05] <Malachi> kbrooks, Slart, thanks to the both of you.
[23:05] <MatBoy> Thirsteh, but on that 2.6.22-14 kernel, my terminal will not start in XFCE... maybe because I run a 64 bits version that is not a good idea ?
[23:05] <Slart> Malachi: you're welcome
[23:05] <kbrooks> Malachi, the way to fix that is at the source, which is YOU. NEVER use X11 forwarding on servers that you don't trust that have X11
[23:05] <mysterycool> how do i compile a program???!
[23:05] <FD_F> Thirsteh: thanks
[23:06] <elhoir> hwllo, just a question
[23:06] <NigelS> mysterycool: any program in general or do you have one in mind? also, why? :)
[23:06] <nauticfriend> hello
[23:06] <plen0x_> mysterycool: apt-get install build-essentials
[23:06] <Slart> JosiahW: perhaps =/.. if it's anything like syncing a phone you've quite some work ahead of you
[23:06] <elhoir> how can i get running java in Ubuntu 7.10?
[23:06] <Thirsteh> MatBoy, try launching the terminal from some other terminal (xterm or something) and check the output. I doubt it's because you're on 64-bit
[23:06] <Malachi> kbrooks: Okay, thanks. I just need it to send a message to one of my clients since he doesn't use IM software.
[23:06] <elhoir> better, in firefox?
[23:06] <kbrooks> Malachi, ssh -x user@host to disable X11 forwarding, iirc
[23:06] <NigelS> elhoir: open synaptic, search for java and you can install it from there
[23:06] <Slart> !java | elhoir
[23:06] <JosiahW> Slart: it is a phone :) a smartphone/pda
[23:06] <ubotu> elhoir: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[23:06] <Thirsteh> FD_F, welcome
[23:06] <woodsoul> mysterycool: please be patient...
[23:07] <EnderTheThird> pike_:  didn't have any trouble this time.  not sure what caused that, but i'm having normal cpu usage now
[23:07] <elhoir> ubotu: and for the applets? (firefox)
[23:07] <Slart> JosiahW: google for it.. +ubuntu +palm +treo ....
[23:07] <Latina>  Estoy perdida..
[23:07] <mysterycool> NigelS: i was trying to install aMSN but then it says i didnt have a tcl program reader or something with tcl error and i need to get a native ubuntu tcl thingy then i downloaded one tcl thingy but dont know how the hell i compile it! :2
[23:07] <mysterycool> * :@
[23:07] <JosiahW> Slart: I do and only get some forums that dont lead anywhere :(
[23:08] <NigelS> elhoir: ubotu is a bot. iirc the applet is installed with it, failing that - again, search the repo
[23:08] <elhoir> i have just installed sun-java6-plugin but does not work
[23:08] <|unjustice|> Anyone know how to find drivers for my realtek ALC880 sound card? My alsamixer cannot get my audio input jack to detect
[23:08] <Slart> JosiahW: well.. that usually means there isn't support yet.. sorry..
[23:08] <erUSUL> !es | Latina
[23:08] <ubotu> Latina: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[23:08] <elhoir> and java 5 does not wokr too
[23:08] <Latina> alguien de casualidad, sabe español?
[23:09] <elhoir> hola Latina, yo
[23:09] <Slart> !en | Latina
[23:09] <ubotu> Latina: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[23:09] <erUSUL> Latina: yo mismo; entra en #ubuntu-es
[23:09] <NigelS> mysterycool: are you certain that the required component isn't in the repository? if not then you'll have to follow the instructions - there are not general compilation instructions though many programs come with a configure script and then you need to run make
[23:09] <Latina> oh que bien, no me quiero ir de aquim se ve bueno esta sala
[23:09] <kbrooks> Malachi, be aware again that with the ingenuity as demostrated in that article a server owner can do unethical things to you if you a) have X (if you see a GUI login screen when you boot, you probably do) and b) haven't disabled X forwarding
[23:09] <steve176> Hi, My Western Digital USB Passport Drive doesn't appear under ubuntu 7.10. Works fine in XP and from earlier versions of Ubuntu. Any ideas?
[23:09] <Thirsteh> mysterycool, I doubt you need to compile anything, you just need the TCL/TK -dev packages from the repository
[23:09] <mysterycool> repository? wtf is that? :s
[23:10] <erUSUL> Latina: en tu cliente irc « /join #ubuntu-es » . En esta sala no se puede hablar otro idioma que no sea inglés
[23:10] <Slart> steve176: I have one of those too.. it works nicely in ubuntu... needs a properly power-supplied usb port though
[23:10] <kbrooks> Malachi, I'll leave it at that
[23:10] <erUSUL> !repos | mysterycool
[23:10] <ubotu> mysterycool: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[23:10] <tyrone> steve176 try manually mounting it
[23:10] <Malachi> kbrooks: Yeah, thanks for the warning. Actually, I have a copy of that book. I don't remember reading that....
[23:10] <Slart> mysterycool: repositories are huuge software archives.. like a ftp server.. where you can get your software for ubuntu
[23:10] <JosiahW> Slart: well, maybe I can get something going through wine
[23:10] <steve176> Slart - same machine is dual booted to WinXP and works on the same USB port
[23:10] <Syubi> how does the ssh command work? ssh user@host ?
[23:10] <Slart> steve176: have you tried mounting it manually?
[23:10] <erUSUL> !ssh | Syubi
[23:11] <ubotu> Syubi: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[23:11] <kbrooks> Malachi, and you may be observant enough to conclude that X security is VERY primitive
[23:11] <Slart> JosiahW: give it a try.. though I think getting usb connectivity working with wine might be tricky as well
[23:11] <kotsu> Eh, hopefully I'm not being repetitious here, but I didn't get the reply I was looking for earlier
[23:11] <kotsu> I'm having issues with GRUB
[23:11] <kotsu> That is to say, it doesn't show up
[23:11] <tyrone> steve176, try manually mounting it manually from the terminal http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=678047 that page will give you some information they talk about a seagate but it will help you too
[23:11] <mysterycool> slart: how do i get that tcl/tl whatever from the repository?
[23:11] <NigelS> elhoir: what does about:plugins from within firefox say about its currently install components? you may need to switch from using gcj using update-alternatives --config java
[23:12] <steve176> Not yet, will try
[23:12] <Malachi> kbrooks: Mm. I'd think it'd be more secure than what it looks like....
[23:12] <tyrone> steve176, mount it as ntfs not as ext3
[23:12] <Slart> !info tcl
[23:12] <ubotu> Package tcl does not exist in gutsy
[23:12] <Slart> !tcl
[23:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tcl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:12] <NMajik> NigelS: OK, installed the new java packages but getting the same errors, any further insight?
[23:12] <Malachi> kbrooks: I suppose since a lot of servers don't run X, it's not TOO significant, but still....
[23:12] <elhoir> Nigels: what?? i dont know how to do that... im newbie :-P
[23:12] <Slart> bah.. ubotu.. no dessert for you..
[23:12] <Slart> mysterycool: why do you need tcl? what are you installing?
[23:12] <kotsu> ..eh.
[23:13] <NigelS> mysterycool: if you don't know really basic details at this stage you prob shouldn't be trying to compile software - go ahead and read some docs; i.e. open up synaptic and search for tcl
[23:13] <Thirsteh> Slart, aMSN, he needs the header files (-dev)
[23:13] <steve176> thanks, although think I'll need to mount is as FAT
[23:13] <Slart> Thirsteh: isn
[23:13] <CapTech> Has anyone gotten RealPlayer to work on Gutsy 64-bit?
[23:13] <kbrooks> Malachi, BTW there is ##security to discuss security
[23:13] <Slart> GGARAHAHRHAHA.. sorry.. had a quick fit of rage over my keyboard..
[23:13] <MatBoy> Thirsteh, and still again not starting after booting :S
[23:14] <Slart> Thirsteh: isn't amsn in the repos?
[23:14] <Malachi> kbrooks: Oh, nice insinuation. I'm leaving anyway.
[23:14] <NigelS> elhoir: in the browser address bar - type about:plugins then firefox will list its installed plugins, see what it thinks is installed (I'm assuming you've restarted all FF instances since installing java)
[23:14] <mysterycool> slart: i am trying to install aMSN a linux version of msn messenger (quite like it basically) and it needs that tcl/tk whatever thingy
[23:14] <kbrooks> Malachi, bye :-)
[23:14] <tyrone> Slart, I am sure amsn is in the repos I use it ^^
[23:14] <Thirsteh> Slart, yep, guessing he either needs a newer version or he hasn't seen "Add/Remove"/"Synaptic"
[23:14] <Slart> !info amsn
[23:14] <ubotu> amsn (source: amsn): An MSN messenger written in Tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.97RC1+dfsg-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 3371 kB, installed size 10956 kB
[23:14] <cappiz> would 01206873333 be a free number to call in the UK?
[23:15] <kbrooks> mysterycool, go into synaptic search for amsn install it, or simply in the terminal type sudo apt-get install amsn
[23:15] <tyrone> mysterycool, you can just go to Application, Add and Remove programs
[23:15] <Slart> mysterycool: run this in a terminal "sudo apt-get install amsn"
[23:15] <fredsua> Can anyone help me install a samsumg printer driver scx-4100 using terminal?  I have instructions how to properly install the driver but as a newbiew, I have no clue how to use terminal.
[23:15] <_Oz_> Ubuntu friends: how can I get alternate login screens/splash screens installed into Ubuntu?
[23:15] <Slart> mysterycool: or on second thought... do what tyrone told you.. it's easier
[23:15] <kbrooks> _Oz_:
[23:15] <elhoir> NigelS: no java plugin, but i have just installed it :S
[23:15] <kbrooks> !gdm | _Oz_
[23:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gdm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:15] <Thirsteh> MatBoy, what terminal are you using in XFCE? gnome-terminal?
[23:15] <kbrooks> _Oz_, erm
[23:15] <elhoir> NigelS: i dont understand
[23:16] <Slart> mysterycool: or what kbrooks said.. basically they are all easier than what I wrote =)
[23:16] <MatBoy> Thirsteh, XFCE, but it tries to start with errors again
[23:16] <NigelS> elhoir: how did you install it? from the repository?
[23:16] <marky_mark47> anyone had problems with an ATI Radeon card? After 4 months of no problems, now every second boot my monitor image is squashed and the fonts are small.
[23:16] <_Oz_> GDM?
[23:16] <Ikkeson> detructor??
[23:17] <Toastin> I need help with a general installation...
[23:17] <kbrooks> _Oz_, ok, for the login screen, go to system > admin > login window
[23:17] <Thirsteh> MatBoy, can you show me the error, and if you can't see it/them, can you try launching the terminal from another terminal (so you get any output)
[23:17] <NigelS> NMajik: if you're sure that you're now actually using Suns JRE then I'm not sure - have you tried resetting your router before trying again? You should prob check any mailing list these guys have
[23:17] <elhoir> NigelS: i firstly installed from rep, sun-java6-plugin, but it didnt work, then i installed from firefoix
[23:17] <_Oz_> yes?
[23:17] <daysleepr> hello all, how can i get the 'home' and 'end' keys to work in terminal?
[23:17] <Ikkeson> where can  ifind info on how-to install tgz and tar.bz2 drivers
[23:18] <kbrooks> _Oz_, then go to the local tab. press add, and just a second lemme look for login themes
[23:18] <speeddemon8803> !tgz | lkkeson
[23:18] <ubotu> lkkeson: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[23:18] <steve176> Great, that worked. Any idea if it will it automatically mount in future?
[23:18] <rufus_> how do I tell what number a partition is? like to find out what /dev/sda2 is
[23:18] <MatBoy> Thirsteh, I have the idea itś my 8600GT + 2.6.22-14 kernel
[23:18] <_Oz_> thanks
[23:18] <_Oz_> how do I install login themes, though?
[23:18] <kbrooks> _Oz_, i just explained
[23:18] <tyrone> steve176, don't forget to safely remove hardware everytime you log out of windows and it should work fine
[23:19] <elhoir> NigelS: Now i have both java5 and java6 installed but dont work
[23:19] <Thirsteh> MatBoy, when you say terminal, do you mean the graphical interface or a normal terminal in which you enter commands?
[23:19] <kbrooks> _Oz_, go here to find a theme http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=150&PHPSESSID=28ea545c9ab5183d4dcc496d7c08b93d
[23:19] <Toastin> my PC won't install ubuntu.
[23:19] <tyrone> steve176, it usually works better if you plug it in before booting
[23:19] <MatBoy> Thirsteh, FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia
[23:19] <MatBoy> (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!
[23:19] <MatBoy> (EE) NVIDIA(0):  *** Aborting ***
[23:19] <steve176> thanks tyrone
[23:19] <mikebot> I ran an install script as root, and now I'm trying to uninstall it...how do I do that?
[23:19] <NigelS> elhoir: right - that could have messed things up somewhat - if you mean that you downloaded Suns package, then I'm not sure as to where it installs its plugin
[23:19] <rufus_> i tried /dev/sda2 as being partition 2, but GRUB said it didnt exist
[23:19] <mikebot> Oh, nvm.
[23:19] <mikebot> Thanks.
[23:19] <daysleepr> no word on getting the home key to work in terminal?
[23:19] <tyrone> Toastin, what does it say?
[23:20] <NigelS> elhoir: let's see what is going on; first off what do you see when you type update-alternatives --config java
[23:20] <kbrooks> _Oz_, when u have downloaded a theme you can go there and either press the add button and find the theme or drag and drop the theme file into the list
[23:20] <Toastin> Nothing. I get a blank screen with a white cursor in the top-left corner.
[23:20] <tyrone> daysleepr, it works fine on mine
[23:20] <tyrone> Toastin, what have you done
[23:20] <tyrone> ?
[23:20] <Silerx> anybody wanna explain why i ordered my fiestyfawn free cd like 5 months ago and am still waiting for it?
[23:21] <elhoir> Nigels: i am in another pc with the irc, please wait a minute
[23:21] <daysleepr> :-/
[23:21] <Toastin> I inserted a disc with the .iso file on it into my cd drive, pressed enter and it was supposed to start mounting
[23:21] <Toastin> but it never did
[23:21] <DjViper> Toastin: you need to burn the .iso file AS a cd image
[23:21] <mysterycool> slart: its not working
[23:21] <speeddemon8803> Silerx...you can check on the status of your order at the shipit website...it will say request not approved if it didnt go through.
[23:21] <speeddemon8803> !shipit
[23:21] <tyrone> Toastin, don't copy it burn it
[23:21] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Gutsy (7.10) CDs
[23:21] <mysterycool> slart: i mean i downloaded it and opened it but it wont sign in
[23:21] <Scunizi> How do I list the permissions of a usb memory stick?
[23:21] <fredsua> can someone help me install a printer driver?
[23:21] <elhoir_> NigelS: i am Elhoir, im going to pase the output:
[23:22] <Toastin> well it was from "ubuntu linux for dummies" they guaranteed it would work
[23:22] <Thirsteh> MatBoy, ah, you meant X. I'm sorry, I have to go, try googling "FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia", a bunch of people seem to have had similar problems
[23:22] <elhoir_> elhoir@elhoir-portatil:~$ update-alternatives --config java
[23:22] <elhoir_> Hay 4 alternativas que proveen `java'.
[23:22] <elhoir_>   Selección     Alternativa
[23:22] <elhoir_> -----------------------------------------------
[23:22] <elhoir_>           1    /usr/bin/gij-4.2
[23:22] <elhoir_>           2    /usr/bin/gij-4.1
[23:22] <FloodBot2> elhoir_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:22] <mysterycool> slart: and at the beginning when i first tried to run it it poped up some errors of language not supported
 anybody wanna explain why i ordered my fiestyfawn free cd like 5 months ago and am still waiting for it?
[23:22] <mysterycool> told ya i need that damn tcl! :@
[23:22] <speeddemon8803> !pastebin | elhoir_
[23:22] <ubotu> elhoir_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[23:22] <Slart> mysterycool: I
[23:22] <MatBoy> Thirsteh, yes I know... I will... 0:30 here also again :)
[23:22] <Silerx> i keep checking it and it says that it sent it as well as the gusty gibbon cd i ordered like a couple of weeks ago and that hasent shown up yet either.
[23:22] <kbrooks> Silerx, dont wait anymore, go buy a CD of gutsy gibbon
[23:22] <Slart> mysterycool: I've never used amsn.. I can't help you with those errors.. ask the channel
[23:22] <MatBoy> Thirsteh, thanks so far :)
[23:23] <speeddemon8803> I agree with slart
[23:23] <mysterycool> anybody can help with aMSN?
[23:23] <kbrooks> Silerx, well it can take a LONG time to deliver the cd to you
[23:23] <elhoir_> NigelS: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56146/
[23:23] <ATG> Hm. Anyone here have experience with Azureus?
[23:23] <Silerx> i already downloaded it and burned it but i want to know why it didnt come even thogh it should have.
[23:23] <speeddemon8803> or...if you have a good connection to the internet, download the iso file and burn it to a cd
[23:23] <tyrone> mysterycool, you don't. Run amsn from the terminal and look at the error
[23:23] <tyrone> s
[23:23] <mikebot> When I rm something (or rm -r something), where does it go?
[23:23] <kbrooks> Silerx, it just can take a long time.
[23:23] <Slart> mikebot: is this a philosophical question?
[23:23] <ATG> I just reinstalled it,  and I used to be sharing a bunch of torrents, but I'm not entirely sure hwo to share them again.... anyone have an idea?
[23:23] <mysterycool> tyrone: and i do that how? its my first day on linux -_-
[23:24] <kbrooks> Silerx, you arent paying them
[23:24] <Pici> mikebot: it doesnt 'go' anywhere. its gone.
[23:24] <Kuroachia> Any recommendations on an app that will track wifi points in the area?
[23:24] <mikebot> Pici: I thought it could be recovered.
[23:24] <Silerx> @kbrooks, i know it can take a long time but 5 months?!?
[23:24] <mikebot> Slart: Heh, unfortunately no.
[23:24] <kbrooks> mikebot, it's removed from the hard drive permanently
[23:24] <Toastin> tyrone: it was a purchased disc, came with a "for dummies" book
[23:24] <kbrooks> mikebot, permanently as in  it WILL be overwritten
[23:24] <Slart> mikebot: it's gone.. poof.. ceased to be.. an ex-file if you wish =)
[23:24] <mikebot> Then what's the difference between rm and shred?
[23:24] <bAndie91> hi all
[23:24] <tyrone> mysterycool, ok open a terminal
[23:24] <NigelS> elhoir_: ok, now go to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins and type: ls -al
[23:24] <tyrone> mysterycool, and type amsn
[23:24] <bAndie91> i 'd like to use infra port to send/receive files with my handphone
[23:25] <kbrooks> mikebot, shred just makes it even MORE harder to recover the file
[23:25] <tyrone> Toastin, I can't help you then ask the dummies book
[23:25] <kbrooks> mikebot, by overwriting the file
[23:25] <Ikkeson> Can ubuntu use RPM packages?? Or if not where can i find info on compiling, because i found the sources, but i don't have a clue on what to do witi these sources. noob for life i guess
[23:25] <kbrooks> mikebot, many, many times
[23:25] <mikebot> kbrooks: Oh, hehe, OK...can you shred folders?
[23:25] <kbrooks> mikebot, no.
[23:25] <Liono>  while adding users. there a primary group and theres an secondary group options. what do secondary group option do?
[23:25] <mark4> ok so i just put a dvd in my drive and its popped up the dvd creator file browser.  is it possible to make a backup of my / partition in here?
[23:25] <Jordan> if i install the server edition, can i add a GUI to it?
[23:25] <mark4> its live. im booted to it
[23:25] <Scunizi> !permissions > Scunizi
[23:25] <mysterycool> tyrone: it just poped up amsn now but no error :s
[23:25] <mikebot> kbrooks: OK, thanks a lot for your help..
[23:25] <mikebot> Bye all.
[23:25] <kbrooks> mikebot, uum
[23:25] <kbrooks> mikebot, stop
[23:25] <speeddemon8803> !alien | lkkeson
[23:25] <ubotu> lkkeson: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[23:25] <tyrone> mysterycool, try loggin in
[23:25] <mikebot> ?
[23:25] <Slart> mikebot: I'm not sure.. shred might write stuff over the file repeatedly so it's harder to recover
[23:25] <elhoir_> NigelS: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56147/
[23:25] <bAndie91> bye
[23:26] <mysterycool> its logging in! ;)
[23:26] <mikebot> Slart: Thanks.
[23:26] <blizzkid> lo all, anyone can help me troubleshoot postfix and mailman integration? I keep getting user unknown errors
[23:26] <bAndie91> hi!
[23:26] <bAndie91> i 'd like to use infra port to send/receive files with my handphone
[23:26] <kbrooks> mikebot, i can give you my email so that you can contact me for more help iif you want
[23:26] <mysterycool> :o
[23:26] <mysterycool> it works! :>
[23:26] <Liono> while adding users. there a primary group and theres an secondary group options. what do secondary group option do? those are : audio, cdrom, dialout, floppy, lpadmin, plugdev, scanner, video
[23:26] <mysterycool> :D :D :)
[23:26] <mysterycool> tyrone and slart: thanks :D
[23:26] <mikebot> kbrooks: No, that's really all I needed.
[23:26] <MasterMel> Where can i find my trahs folder in ubuntu?
[23:26] <kbrooks> mikebot, ok bye
[23:26] <Slart> you're welcome, mysterycool
[23:26] <Silerx> yah mysterycool no biggie...
[23:26] <mikebot> Bye.
[23:27] <kbrooks> MasterMel, it's in ~/.Trash
[23:27] <Jordan> can i add a gui to the server edition?
[23:27] <Slart> MasterMel: all over the place.. there's one in your home folder.. and one on each drive I think... search for folders named .Trash
[23:27] <mysterycool> ;)
[23:27] <mysterycool> :D
[23:27] <kbrooks> Jordan, yes
[23:27] <Ikkeson> Because i only can find the RPM packages,  where can i find info on compiling, because i found the sources, but i don't have a clue on what to do witi these sources. noob for life i guess
[23:27] <kbrooks> Jordan, it's fine to...
[23:27] <|unjustice|> Hi
[23:27] <Jordan> kbrooks: how?
[23:27] <kbrooks> Jordan, but servers dont NEED a gui
[23:27] <erUSUL> Liono: a user can be member of many groups e first one it enters is the primary one but there is no actual difference between primary and secondary
[23:27] <mysterycool> hey does anybody know if u gotta pay for a virtual machine? (just asking cuz i am searching it for something that i wanna do :p)
[23:27] <bAndie91> Jordan: apt-get install x-window-system
[23:27] <tyrone> mysterycool, np ^^ you one the first guys i've helped i am a noob too but i am learning!!
[23:27] <kbrooks> Jordan, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[23:28] <NigelS> elhoir_: ok, and ls -al /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so
[23:28] <kbrooks> bAndie91, no...
[23:28] <Jordan> ok
[23:28] <kbrooks> mysterycool, not really
[23:28] <kbrooks> mysterycool, er i misunderstood
[23:28] <Jordan> i know they dont need it, but i dont know linux commands
[23:28] <bAndie91> kbrooks: whats no?
[23:28] <tyrone> mysterycool, from VMware?
[23:28] <kbrooks> mysterycool, no - a flat no
[23:28] <mysterycool> kbrooks: ?
[23:28] <NigelS> elhoir_: you may also have plugins installed in your home dir in ~/.mozilla - make sure this isn't so as they could override the default
[23:28] <kbrooks> mysterycool, hmm...
[23:28] <Liono> erUSUL ok. and that will increase its privaliges?   where can i  know the privilages of each group? and what groups are sudoers? need details
[23:28] <Merkidemis> Why is it when I try to execute a .bin file in bash I get a -bash: ./whatever.bin: No such file or directory?  I have done a chmod +x to it and have tried running it via sudo as well
[23:28] <kbrooks> mysterycool, rephrase your question
[23:28] <mysterycool> so i can like get a free virtual machine and run another os on it and access it via my pc? and this is free? :s
[23:28] <NigelS> elhoir_: if everything looks ok we can try deleting your plugins data file then ff will rebuild it
[23:29] <bAndie91> i 'd like to use infra port to send/receive files with my handphone
[23:29] <speeddemon8803> Jordan, you do realize that eventually you will have to learn linux commands...even the GUI version has to dig into a CLI sometimes.
[23:29] <kbrooks> mysterycool, you can't "get" a free VM
[23:29] <kbrooks> mysterycool, you have to "make" one ;-)
[23:29] <mysterycool> ..?
[23:29] <mysterycool> make..?
[23:29] <Jordan> speeddemon8803, i know
[23:29] <MagoonD> Hello
[23:29] <tyrone> mysterycool, yes the software for the virtual machine is not free unless it is linuz
[23:29] <tyrone> linux*
[23:29] <kbrooks> mysterycool, as in, you need to create a new virtual hard disk
[23:29] <MagoonD> mates I just installed ubuntu but my mouse is real slow I have set it to max is there any other way to increase the speed?
[23:29] <speeddemon8803> kbrooks...i actually followed that lol
[23:29] <kbrooks> tyrone, not so
[23:29] <Jordan> i'd rather ease into linux...like i did w/ ms-dos lol
[23:30] <mysterycool> and where is this virtual hard disk stored? :s
[23:30] <elhoir_> NigelS: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56148/
[23:30] <kbrooks> mysterycool, anywhere you want. can i show you?
[23:30] <speeddemon8803> linux cli and dos are somewhat similar...
[23:30] <tyrone> mysterycool, in you hard drive. it is just a big file
[23:30] <mysterycool> kbrooks: yes plz!
[23:30] <Scunizi> Where are usb flash memory sticks mounted by default?
[23:30] <mysterycool> tyrone: yes..?
[23:30] <NigelS> elhoir_: aha, well we've found the fault
[23:30] <mysterycool> tyrone: so it is basically in your own pc..? :p
[23:31] <tyrone> mysterycool, yeah
[23:31] <elhoir> what is the problem?
[23:31] <speeddemon8803> !usb | scunizi
[23:31] <ubotu> scunizi: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[23:31] <elhoir> NigelS: what is the problem?
[23:31] <Merkidemis> How do I execute .bin files?
[23:31] <Slart> Scunizi: /media/disk is one place
[23:31] <mysterycool> tyrone: and what are they exactly used for? i mean what is the purpose anw?
[23:31] <speeddemon8803> oops
[23:31] <Slart> Scunizi: but always a folder in /media
[23:31] <speeddemon8803> dont follow that, i forgot that was for installing from usb, not usb mount points :/
[23:31] <rufus_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4338884
[23:31] <pike_> Merkidemis: chmod +x file or right click and make executabe in permissions
[23:31] <rufus_> maybe someone can help?
[23:32] <tyrone> mysterycool, it is just a program that will let you run a machine. To tun windows on ubuntu maybe, fun whatever
[23:32] <Jordan> they are'nt that similar; ms-dos commands are more logical
[23:32] <kbrooks> mysterycool, do you accept private messages? did you see my pm?
[23:32] <bAndie91> i 'd like to use infra port to send/receive files with my handphone, what program should i use?
[23:32] <Ikkeson> Where can i find info on compiling? I have source codes to a driver, but i am still a noob on Linux.
[23:32] <Scunizi> Slart, I formatted it a while ago and gave it a name of "EDGY". there is a listing in /media for EDGY but I can't cd into it.  for some reason .. I think it's a permission problem and am investigating.
[23:32] <Pici> !compile | Ikkeson
[23:32] <ubotu> Ikkeson: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[23:32] <Merkidemis> pike_: I've done that (this is console only, so no clicking) but I get a "file not found" error
[23:33] <NigelS> elhoir: for some reason, I'm not sure why the wrong link has been made even though alternatives thinks it is right, so:
[23:33] <Merkidemis> pike: I am trying to run from my home directory, does that need to be +x too?
[23:33] <Slart> Scunizi: try "sudo chmod a+rw /media/edgy"... replace /media/edgy with the correct path
[23:33] <pike_> Merkidemis: you are not in the correct directory. type ls to list contents of the dir  then youll see Desktop so cd Desktop and ls again youll see the file and if you run chmod now itll work
[23:33] <Liono> what groups are sudoer groups by default?
[23:33] <Scunizi> Slart, thanks I'll try.. it had a dirty unmount and then was inaccessable.
[23:33] <Pici> Liono: admin
[23:33] <Liono> Pici any more?
[23:34] <solexious> [Q] What is the default install folder for programs using the apt-get command?
[23:34] <bAndie91> liono: see /etc/sudoers
[23:34] <Merkidemis> pike: I am in the correct directory.  ls lists the files, I can chmod it without error
[23:34] <Liono> bAndie91 ok
[23:34] <Bodsda> !paste
[23:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[23:34] <MagoonD> mates I just installed ubuntu but my mouse is real slow I have set it to max is there any other way to increase the speed?
[23:34] <bAndie91> solexious: variable
[23:34] <Slart> solexious: applications install stuff a little all over the place.. /usr/lib for some.. /usr/bin for others.. /bin etc etc
[23:34] <solexious> bAndie: ty
[23:34] <bAndie91> solexious: /usr/share:/usr/bin:...
[23:34] <|twiser|> how do i unrar a file?
[23:35] <Slart> solexious: google for linux folder hierarchy or something... there is a plan behind the madness =)
[23:35] <bAndie91> |twiser|: with unrar
[23:35] <Slart> !unrar
[23:35] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[23:35] <MagoonD> no one knows the answer?
[23:35] <tyrone> how do I use ubotu?
[23:35] <NigelS> elhoir: if you go to /etc/alternatives and rm firefox-javaplugin.so then type ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so firefox-javaplugin.so
[23:35] <Liono> bAndie91 theres no files as sudoers there
[23:35] <tyrone> to what commands does it respond?
[23:35] <|twiser|> !info unrar-free
[23:35] <ubotu> unrar-free (source: unrar-free): Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20070515-1 (gutsy), package size 40 kB, installed size 124 kB
[23:36] <pike_> !ubotu| tyrone
[23:36] <pocketdrummer> Is there a way to make Rhythymbox the default app for ogg? It's not even on the list, but it's installed.
[23:36] <Slart> tyrone: !something to make ubuntu share his wisdom on that subject.. !something | someone to send it to someone.. ubotu doesn't know everything.. you can play with it in private chat.. /msg ubotu !cookies
[23:36] <ubotu> tyrone: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[23:36] <bAndie91> Liono: but
[23:37] <tyrone> Slart, thanks
[23:37] <cheesypieces> guys, how do i change my default desktop manager to gdm?
[23:37] <Liono> !sudoers
[23:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sudoers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:37] <Slart> tyrone: you're welcome
[23:37] <elhoir_> NigelS: done
[23:37] <Merkidemis> pike: any other suggestions?
[23:37] <rufus_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4338884
[23:37] <rufus_> maybe someone can help?
[23:37] <elhoir_> NigelS: and now?
[23:37] <MagoonD> how do I increase mouse speed I set it to max but its still real slow
[23:37] <pike_> Merkidemis: so it is executable now just ./file.bin to run
[23:38] <eekrano> anyone still using the default gutsy oxygen theme?
[23:38] <vladanian> pocketdrummer: right-click on an ogg file, choose Open With; Open with other application, if you don't see rb in the list there, Use a custom command and browse to it
[23:38] <bAndie91> i 'd like to use infra port to send/receive files with my handphone, what program should i use?
[23:38] <riba1> hi guys..
[23:38] <pocketdrummer> vladanian: I'm not sure where to browse to though :-/
[23:38] <NigelS> elhoir_: restart firefox, see if it works :)
[23:39] <vladanian> pocketdrummer: /usr/bin/rhythmbox
[23:39] <riba1> the installer of my printer goes to /var/spool/lpd/printername
[23:39] <Merkidemis> pike: I get: -bash: ./hlds.bin: No such file or directory.  I knew how to set it executable and all that, but this inability to actually run is throwing me
[23:39] <riba1> which dows not exist
[23:39] <Fallenou> see ya
[23:39] <elhoir_> NigelS: no it doesnt :)
[23:39] <NigelS> cheesypieces: I'm sure there's a graphical way to do this but you can update-alternatives --config x-session-manager
[23:39] <MagoonD> can someone even read what I am typing?
[23:39] <riba1> think I will create it and see what happens
[23:39] <_Oz_> thanks, kbrooks
[23:39] <elhoir_> NigelS: firefox shows me the windows to install plugins again
[23:39] <pike_> Merkidemis: Desktop/file.bin
[23:39] <peepsalot> anyone here use firefox extensions for keeping track of your bookmarks across computers?  i can't decide what I should use.  del.icio.us, foxmarks, google bookmarks, sync2it, etc.
[23:39] <eekrano> MagoonD, yes.
[23:40] <pocketdrummer> vladanian: So, I was told that linux doesn't install things to a designated folder (like program files in windows), so how do you know where things are installed?
[23:40] <NigelS> elhoir_: what does about:plugins show? what was the feedback from making the link?
[23:40] <tyrone> MagoonD, yes everyone when they don't know the answer they don;t say anything usually
[23:40] <adrian> hey does anyone know how to keep sound going in Ubuntu i don't have a sound card i just have onborad sound on the mother and sound will play sometimes then just quit any ideas on if i need any drivers installed or anything
[23:40] <MagoonD> eekrano, how do I increase my my speed when i set ti to fast but its still real slow?
[23:40] <CyanideD> can someone help my getting my desktop back onto my tv i had it before i moved over to linux
[23:40] <vladanian> pocketdrummer: it's a linux convention to put programs in /usr/bin/
[23:40] <_Oz_> kbrooks: when I download it...  how do I install?
[23:40] <Liono> why i cant see etc/sudoers    i have enabled to show hidden files
[23:40] <bAndie91> do anyone use irda utils?
[23:40] <vladanian> pocketdrummer: linux does put things in specific places -- by convention -- but just like windows, the files could be installed anywhere
[23:40] <kbrooks> _Oz_, when u have downloaded a theme you can go there and either press the add button and find the theme or drag and drop the theme file into the list
[23:40] <eekrano> MagoonD, that depends on why its so slow... what h/w are you running?
[23:41] <Merkidemis> pike: /home/merkidemis/hldsupdatetool.bin: no such file or directory.  This is the full path to the file I am trying to run.
[23:41] <pocketdrummer> vladanian: oh ok, thanks man
[23:41] <elhoir_> NigelS: it says that i have shockwave, VLC, totem, Windows Media Player 10, DivX and QuickTime
[23:41] <xobius> rufus_, did you config the grub?
[23:41] <vladanian> pocketdrummer: my pleasure
[23:41] <MagoonD> i am running ibm x41 tabled ubuntu gutsy, the mouse is a track point build into the keyboard one of those ibm red bubble mice
[23:41] <MagoonD> eekrano,
[23:41] <NigelS> elhoir_: you can try reinstalling the plugin with apt-get install --reinstall sun-java6-plugin
[23:41] <eekrano> MagoonD, ....
[23:42] <vladanian> Does anyone know where the splash image that appears during boot is stored, or where its size is configured?
[23:42] <NigelS> elhoir_: also, try deleting pluginreg.dat from ~/.mozilla and ~/.mozilla/firefox
[23:42] <MagoonD> eekrano,  its real fast in windows just slow in ubuntu
[23:42] <pike_> Merkidemis: try using tab completion maybe youre just missing the case or something
[23:42] <pocketdrummer> vladanian: So, should I point it to Rhythymbox or Rhythymbox-client?
[23:42] <Slart> vladanian: it's compiled into an executable I think..
[23:42] <adrian> does anyone know how to make sound quit turning off automatically
[23:43] <eekrano> MagoonD, need to be a bit more specific... slow with graphics, loading applications, all?
[23:43] <Slart> vladanian: google for "ubuntu splash create" there is a howto for the older version of splash screne
[23:43] <adrian> i have onboard sound so i'm not sure why it shuts off once in a while
[23:43] <elhoir_> NigelS: reinstalled, i have closed firefox
[23:43] <vladanian> Slart: I overstated my display size when I installed initially, and ever since, I can't boot w/o axing "splash" from my grub config
[23:43] <Slart> vladanian: using nvidia?
[23:43] <Merkidemis> pike: Same thing.
[23:43] <vladanian> Slart: ati
[23:43] <MagoonD> eekrano, slow with movement acceleration and sensitivity
[23:44] <Merkidemis> pike: is ubuntu server set up differntly to not allow this somehow?
[23:44] <vladanian> pocketdrummer: I'd try rhythmbox -- but it's weird that it doesn't appear in the list for you, since it does for me
[23:44] <Slart> vladanian: I don't know how to do that.. my splash has never worked.. perhaps you can reinstall the splash you have now
[23:44] <aboed> vladanian: resolution conf stored in /etc/usplash.conf
[23:44] <_Oz_> kbrooks: got it to work.  Didn't understand that you leave the theme ARCHIVED before adding.
[23:44] <NigelS> elhoir_: did the link work? what does ls -al /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so say now?
[23:44] <eekrano> MagoonD, what does glxgears give you for fps?
[23:44] <vladanian> aboed: sweet, thanks
[23:44] <_Oz_> Got it now, though.
[23:44] <_Oz_> As usual, #ubuntu rocks the mic.
[23:44] <_Oz_> Soooooooo helpful, sooooooooo useful, soooooooo friendly.
[23:44] <elhoir_> NigelS: please give me the link to the paste service again
[23:45] <pocketdrummer> vladanian: Yeah, I can right click and choose rhythymbox, but If I go to properties - open with, it doesn't show up there... just movie player.
[23:45] <NigelS> elhoir_: if its one line then its ok
[23:45] <pike_> Merkidemis: nope
[23:45] <MagoonD> eekrano, 860.159fps
[23:45] <NigelS> elhoir_: although it's http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[23:45] <_Oz_> what about the default ubuntu loading screen?  Can that be changed?  You know, the orange "ubuntu" with the orange loading bar.
[23:45] <rufus_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4338884
[23:45] <rufus_> maybe someone can help?
[23:46] <pocketdrummer> Vladanian: Ok, tried just rhythym, it opens and says "not playing", then closes.
[23:46] <Slart> _Oz_: changed.. yes.. easily.. no
[23:46] <xobius> rufus, did you config the grub?
[23:46] <eekrano> MagoonD, you have desktop effects on like wobbly windows and such?
[23:46] <elhoir_> NogelS: file or directory not foun
[23:46] <Merkidemis> pike: I'm not THAT much of a noob (got the stuff installed and working for my RAID card, for example), so I know about chmod and the like.  This vexes me.
[23:46] <MagoonD> eekrano, yes i do
[23:46] <xobius> rufus_,  did you config the grub?
[23:46] <Merkidemis> pike: it makes no sense.  it looks like it SHOULD be able to run just fine, but doesn't
[23:46] <elhoir_> NigelS: file or directory not found
[23:46] <_Oz_> slart: please describe what is involved so I may determine if it is something I want to undertake.
[23:47] <NigelS> elhoir_: that would be why it didn't work :)
[23:47] <pike_> Merkidemis: seems odd. dunno man
[23:47] <pocketdrummer> Vladanian: Tried both in usr/bin, neither work. It opens Rhythymbox, but they won't play.
[23:47] <eekrano> MagoonD, are you using a gfx card or just whatever came with the mobo?
[23:47] <TKingdom> Anyone know if the package "unrar" will properly extract split archives?
[23:47] <Slart> !splash
[23:47] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[23:47] <Merkidemis> pike: odd is exactly the reason I came here.
[23:47] <vladanian> pocketdrummer: you put in /usr/bin/rhythmbox in the "use a custom command" box and it didn't work?
[23:47] <pike_> Merkidemis: ls |grep .bin | xargs -i bash {}   :-)
[23:47] <MagoonD> eekrano, graphics card in laptop
[23:47] <Slart> !usplash
[23:47] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[23:47] <eekrano> ah
[23:47] <pocketdrummer> vladanian: Yep.
[23:47] <vladanian> pocketdrummer: are you sure it's installed?
[23:47] <Slart> there is a link there, _Oz_
[23:48] <scjp_> anybody here who can help me out with oracle because oracle is not listening the http port 6065 ??
[23:48] <elhoir_> NigelS:: what could i do?
[23:48] <_Oz_> slart: that doesn't seem too bad.
[23:48] <_Oz_> slart: thanks for that.
[23:48] <Aquahallic> did Terminal Server Client pakage update and get borked?
[23:48] <Slart> _Oz_: you
[23:48] <vladanian> pocketdrummer: I just did exactly that on my machine and it worked
[23:48] <astro76> Merkidemis: do you want to pastebin the output of ls -l in the directory the .bin should be in? not sure what else to tell you ;)
[23:48] <Slart> _Oz_: you're welcome.. I'll be sure to pass all questions about it to you then ;)
[23:48] <NigelS> elhoir_: what's the contents of /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun ?
[23:48] <eekrano> MagoonD, try turning off some of the "nice to have's" like wobbly windows and rotating cube for a moment and tell me if you see a speed difference
[23:48] <kinections> where would I find the .config for the ubuntu hardy heron kernel?
[23:48] <pocketdrummer> vladanian: Maybe I should reinstall? I mean, I can open rhythymbox and play it, but I can launch rhythymbox by clicking on the song... it's weird.
[23:48] <Merkidemis> pike: after the grep -> hldsupdatetool.bin: cannot execute binary file
[23:48] <rustmonster> flashplugin-nonfree on 64-bit gutsy fails the md5 test after downloading the tgz from adobe...
[23:49] <rustmonster> does flash plugin work on 64 bit?
[23:49] <Slart> rustmonster: again?
[23:49] <amenado> rufus_-> what is the problem?  hda vs sda ?
[23:49] <MagoonD> eekrano, i just turned everything off when you mentioned it and same thing
[23:49] <_Oz_> Slart: this link describes the procedure for Edgy.  I'm running Gutsy.  Is it still good?
[23:49] <Slart> rustmonster: it works for me now on 64-bit
[23:49] <rustmonster> Slart: what do you mean?
[23:49] <astro76> Merkidemis: also what is the *exact* command you are trying which is failing?
[23:49] <pocketdrummer> Vladanian: In fact, it doesn't work if I right-click and tell it to use rhythymbox...
[23:49] <eekrano> MagoonD, you're using compiz i assume?
[23:49] <Merkidemis> astro: ./hldsupdatetool.bin
[23:49] <Slart> _Oz_: oh.. it might have changed.. I think I read something about gutsy using a newer version or something..
[23:49] <vladanian> pocketdrummer: it just does nothing?
[23:49] <MagoonD> eekrano,  yes
[23:49] <elhoir_> NigelS: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56151/
[23:49] <pike_> Merkidemis: ls -l should show like : -rwxr-xr-x  the x is the executable bit that has been set.
[23:50] <_Oz_> Slart: damn!  That's the only downside to the documentation...  it constantly gets outdated.
[23:50] <eekrano> MagoonD, do you have the same problem if you're using metacity?
[23:50] <Slart> rustmonster: I use the flash plugin for 64bit.. it was broken about 2 weeks ago but got fixed
[23:50] <rustmonster> the filename is version 9
[23:50] <MagoonD> eekrano, i dont have metacity what is that?
[23:50] <danh1> I wanted to install kvm from hardy.....I have gutsy setup now
[23:50] <Merkidemis> astro: -rwxr-xr-x 1 merkidemis merkidemis 3513408 2008-02-11 18:56 hldsupdatetool.bin
[23:50] <|twiser|> can ark handle .rar files?
[23:50] <rustmonster> hm... okay...
[23:50] <danh1> how can I setup pinning to download kvm from hardy?
[23:51] <Merkidemis> astro: see, this is why after a lot of swearing I came here
[23:51] <pike_> Merkidemis: and ./hldsupdatetool.bin  does nothing?
[23:51] <Slart> danh1: why not just download the deb and install that only
[23:51] <rustmonster> oh well, i'll run windows for the time being and reinstall gutsy later
[23:51] <Slart> _Oz_: indeed.. there might be something newer out there.. I haven't found it though
[23:51] <eekrano> MagoonD, if you do "metacity --replace" in a terminal does that speed things up?
[23:51] <astro76> Merkidemis: indeed
[23:52] <NigelS> elhoir_: did you copy and paste what I typed before or type it accross? maybe you made a typo?from that directory do you have a jre/plugin/i386/ns7 dir?
[23:52] <Merkidemis> pike: it spits out the "no such file or directory" error, even though it lets me tab complete the name
[23:52] <rufus_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4338884
[23:52] <rufus_> maybe someone can help?
[23:52] <_Oz_> kbrooks or slart: I can't seem to change my "theme" in Gutsy despite downloading a new one from Gnome-Look.  When I go to install, I select the tarball and it says invalid format.  Thoughts?
[23:52] <Slart> |twiser|: I don't know about ark.. but file-roller handles rar-files.. if you install rar first
[23:52] <_Oz_> (For the login screen, the tarball was fine.)
[23:52] <pocketdrummer> vladanian: Well, it opens, then says not playing (where the track information goes when you play a song)... then closes rhythmbox altogether.
[23:52] <MagoonD> eekrano, no it doesnt
[23:52] <Slart> _Oz_: nope.. no idea.. haven't really tried downloading new themes
[23:52] <astro76> Merkidemis: what if you do 'sh hldsupdatetool.bin'
[23:53] <johnny_> anyone know a good pastebin
[23:53] <danh1> Slart: How can I find/download the deb?
[23:53] <Pici> !paste | johnny_
[23:53] <eekrano> MagoonD, did your effects go away?
[23:53] <ubotu> johnny_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[23:53] <|twiser|> :~$ sudo apt-get install unrar-free
[23:53] <|twiser|> Password:
[23:53] <|twiser|> E: Type '“deb' is not known on line 44 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:53] <|twiser|> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[23:53] <|twiser|> etho@etho:~$
[23:53] <FloodBot2> |twiser|: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:53] <pike_> Merkidemis: now im getting pissed off :)  try export PATH=$PATH:$(pwd);hldsupdatetool.bin   i mean good god
[23:53] <|twiser|> so sorry
[23:53] <danh1> Slart: I mean, I know it's on the repository, but I had no idea i could just apt-get the particular deb
[23:53] <MagoonD> eekrano, yes they did I select non to turn compiz off too
[23:53] <Merkidemis> astro: syntax error: "(" unexpected
[23:53] <|twiser|> how can fix that
[23:53] <elhoir_> NigelS: here is the ns7 directory http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56153/
[23:53] <astro76> Merkidemis: I think you need to open the .bin with a text editor and see what's up
[23:54] <mar77i> hi there. do you want to see something funny? I don't really know what that should... This is no fake: http://pastebin.ca/905724
[23:54] <eekrano> MagoonD, .... hmmm... your hard drive light keep going or something?
[23:54] <johnny_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56154/
[23:54] <astro76> Merkidemis: pastebin it if you want
[23:54] <johnny_> can someone tell me what the problem is
[23:54] <vladanian> pocketdrummer: and you can play an ogg in rb, just not by clicking on it? I have no idea why it's not working.
[23:54] <MagoonD> eekrano, no i dont think its a hardware or performance issue
[23:54] <Merkidemis> astro: well, its on the other computer and cygwin isn't letting me cut and paste from it
[23:54] <johnny_> unknown user 'postfix' ?
[23:55] <MatBoy> how stable is gutsy ?
[23:55] <johnny_> how do i fix that
[23:55] <eekrano> MagoonD, is your cpu maxed out?
[23:55] <Pici> mar77i: apt is not the name of the program you want.
[23:55] <MagoonD> eekrano, there has to be a file that stores the speed somewhere for mouse acceleration
[23:55] <pocketdrummer> vladanian: Yeah, I'm stumped too.
[23:55] <MagoonD> eekrano, not at all
[23:55] <Slart> danh1: no.. I mean.. download the deb using packages.ubuntu.com.. then install it using "sudo dpkg -i yourdebfilehere.deb"
[23:55] <Pici> mar77i: apt != apt-get
[23:55] <astro76> Merkidemis: what's the first line?
[23:55] <mar77i> Pici: why is anyone thinking I need sun-java6 for that???
[23:55] <johnny_> i upgraded from dapper to edgy and now i cant install anything
[23:55] <Merkidemis> astro: lots of random ascii characters in the bin, though it starts with ^?ELF^A^A^A^@^@^@^@^@^@
[23:55] <johnny_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56154/
[23:55] <johnny_> does anyone know how to fix this
[23:55] <MatBoy> is gutsy stable comparing to Feisty Fawn ?
[23:55] <NigelS> elhoir_: right, so let's try what we tried before - firstly delete firefox-javaplugin.so from /etc/alternatives
[23:55] <danh1> Slart: I gotcha.  I meant I didn't realiez you could downlaod from packages.ubuntu.com
[23:55] <eekrano> MagoonD, mouse acceleration? thats it? i thought you were referring to overall speed
[23:55] <sponger> gutsy is just fine
[23:55] <astro76> Merkidemis: oh okay it is actually a binary
[23:55] <MatBoy> I mean, not buggy the whole time :)
[23:56] <MatBoy> sponger, ok :) thanks
[23:56] <rufus_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4338884
[23:56] <rufus_> maybe someone can help?
[23:56] <MagoonD> eekrano, no just mouse accelration sorry for the confusion
[23:56] <Merkidemis> astro: its the dedicated server stuff for Steam games, like TF2
[23:56] <eekrano> MagoonD, heheh, sorry for makin you go through all that! one sec..
[23:56] <elhoir_> NigelS: already deleted
[23:56] <mar77i> MatBoy: it works for me
[23:56] <_Oz_> slart: I have updated info for you.  Simply do an add/remove or run synaptic and search for "startup manager" and you can control all the usplash stuff from the GUI.
[23:56] <Merkidemis> astro: of course I can't get the UT3 bin to run either
[23:56] <MagoonD> eekrano, np I appreciate any help I can get
[23:56] <MatBoy> mar77i, in my Debian days, I was always running testing
[23:57] <pike_> Merkidemis: youre sshing to it? i think youd like putty better as a windows client
[23:57] <Slart> _Oz_: ah.. that sounds nice.. I'll put that on my "to do"-list.. but now I'm off to bed.. good night
[23:57]  * MatBoy is upgrading now to Gutsy :)
[23:57] <NigelS> elhoir_: then (making sure you're in /etc/alternatives) type ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so firefox-javaplugin.so
[23:57] <Pici> mar77i: Because thats where apt is.  Its a java tool, it just happens to share a very similar name to apt-get.
[23:57] <cappiz> would 01206873333 be a free number to call in the UK?
[23:57] <Merkidemis> pike: yes I am
[23:57] <eekrano> MagoonD, did you try System > Preferences > Mouse under the motion tab?
[23:57] <Pici> !offtopic | cappiz
[23:57] <ubotu> cappiz: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[23:57] <NigelS> cappiz: no, I don't believe so
[23:58] <elhoir_> NigelS: done
[23:58] <NigelS> cappiz: google the area code
[23:58] <Merkidemis> pike: cygwin was more useful in my various programming courses
[23:58] <Liono> here are groups by default that are sudoer groups. what are they
[23:58] <Liono>  how can i know e.g admin is. and if iaim not wrong. plugdev is ,but where can i know that? may be i installed mythtv. and thats an suder too the group mythtv. so where can i know
[23:58] <NigelS> elhoir_: and was there an error this time?
[23:58] <Slart> danh1: you might have to force the install... check the man page for switches.. you'll end up with something like "sudo dpkg -i --force-dependencies yourdebhere.deb"
[23:58] <MagoonD> eekrano, yeah i set acceleration and sensitivity in Motion tab to their highest
[23:58] <Slart> danh1: because the hardy deb will probably depend on something that's not available in gutsy
[23:58] <danh1> lovely
[23:58]  * Shadowfire is away: gnite..
[23:59] <Pici> !away > Shadowfire (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[23:59] <elhoir_> NigelS: no, it has never shown an error
[23:59] <ch08r> If anyone is available , I am frustrated as hell... I have spent the last 3 days searching and trying to get my cdrom drive to work and cant get it to work, looked everywhere on line... anyone able to help me?
[23:59] <pike_> Merkidemis: cygwin is great but the default shell kinda sucks for intance i normally install sshd on cygwin so i can use putty to ssh to my local machine i just like the shell better
[23:59] <NigelS> elhoir_: you said before that there was a no such file error
[23:59]  * pike_ shrugs
[23:59] <astro76> Liono: the only group that has to do with sudoers is admin, other groups typically use group permissions to control access