| * ogra_cmpc reads the "academic free license" | 02:45 | |
| ogra_cmpc | ... 5) This section intentionally omitted. ... | 02:45 |
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| ogra_cmpc | i wonder if that the academic part of it ... | 02:46 |
| * ogra_cmpc shakes head | 02:46 | |
| LaserJock | heh | 02:46 |
| kgoetz | hehe | 02:46 |
| johnny | lol | 02:47 |
| johnny | ogra wtf is is a classmatepc | 02:48 |
| johnny | hmm.. btw.. i'm not impressed by bzr so far | 02:48 |
| johnny | i was hoping i'd like it better | 02:48 |
| ogra_cmpc | http://www.classmatepc.com/ | 02:48 |
| johnny | oh.. their olpc competition | 02:49 |
| johnny | i forgot about that thing | 02:49 |
| ogra_cmpc | pfft | 02:49 |
| ogra_cmpc | no competition if you look at the HW | 02:49 |
| ogra_cmpc | or at the strategies | 02:50 |
| kgoetz | for what value of 'no'? heh | 02:52 |
| ogra_cmpc | OLPC tries to develop new concepts for hard and software based on sociological studies about human interaction in teaching | 02:53 |
| ogra_cmpc | they are a scientific project .... | 02:53 |
| LaserJock | yep | 02:53 |
| ogra_cmpc | intel is a HW manufacturer ... they want to give every kid in the world a usable laptop and earn some money with it | 02:54 |
| LaserJock | ogra_cmpc: somebody tried to sneak OLPC's squeak into Fedora saying it was "MIT" license ;-) | 02:54 |
| ogra_cmpc | LOL ! | 02:54 |
| LaserJock | I'm surprised they use squeak so much given it's non-freeness | 02:55 |
| ogra_cmpc | especially since fedora really just turns into a second debian regarding their license policy changes recently | 02:55 |
| kgoetz | LaserJock: how does olpcs squeak differer from normal squeak? | 02:56 |
| ogra_cmpc | there were some silly removals i heard of | 02:56 |
| johnny | i've had this prejudice against rpm that i cant shake | 02:57 |
| johnny | have't used an rpm based distro sine 2001 | 02:57 |
| kgoetz | thier being hyper caustios | 02:57 |
| kgoetz | *sp | 02:57 |
| LaserJock | kgoetz: it's got some special stuff to work with OLPC hardware | 03:00 |
| LaserJock | and then they've built a lot of goodies for kids I guess | 03:00 |
| LaserJock | using etoys | 03:00 |
| LaserJock | I've recently spent a week with Fedora when I didn't have an Ubuntu alternate disk around | 03:01 |
| kgoetz | LaserJock: i was wonderin if olpc's version was less-free then the standard squeak, or if its just the normal 'non-freeness' | 03:01 |
| ogra_cmpc | and ? | 03:01 |
| LaserJock | it was definitely better than openSUSE | 03:01 |
| kgoetz | *wondering | 03:01 |
| LaserJock | but some things are hard to get used to | 03:01 |
| LaserJock | I had a lot of problems with networking | 03:02 |
| LaserJock | that "Just Worked" in Ubuntu | 03:02 |
| ogra_cmpc | really ? | 03:02 |
| LaserJock | yeah, Fedora won't work with my uni's VPN | 03:02 |
| ogra_cmpc | they claim their NM works better :P | 03:02 |
| LaserJock | well | 03:02 |
| LaserJock | NM isn't even turned on by default | 03:02 |
| ogra_cmpc | i had some discussions with warren :) | 03:02 |
| ogra_cmpc | heh | 03:02 |
| LaserJock | I had to go into the service config thingy | 03:02 |
| ogra_cmpc | i didnt know that | 03:02 |
| LaserJock | and enable it | 03:02 |
| LaserJock | then go into the network config thingy | 03:03 |
| LaserJock | and tell it to let NM manage the interfaces | 03:03 |
| LaserJock | *that* took me some time to figure out | 03:03 |
| ogra_cmpc | yeah, i can imagine | 03:03 |
| LaserJock | but the VPN issue was the hardest | 03:03 |
| LaserJock | Ubuntu has network-manager-pptp | 03:03 |
| LaserJock | which makes my uni VPN a breeze | 03:03 |
| LaserJock | but I couldn't for the life of me get Fedora to work with it | 03:04 |
| LaserJock | they're really wanting to beef up Edu stuff though | 03:04 |
| LaserJock | not just LTSP | 03:04 |
| ogra_cmpc | well, from hardy+1 on we'll do that too | 03:05 |
| ogra_cmpc | for hardy i just want the cd change to work | 03:05 |
| ogra_cmpc | in hardy+1 we can finally take care for some apps and for filling up the CD | 03:05 |
| ogra_cmpc | warren tries to merge k12ltsp into fedora ... | 03:06 |
| LaserJock | what is the CD situation | 03:07 |
| ogra_cmpc | but he just starts | 03:07 |
| LaserJock | I saw cjwatson making seed changes | 03:07 |
| ogra_cmpc | the seed and germinate chnages are done | 03:07 |
| ogra_cmpc | cd build changes are still missing | 03:07 |
| ogra_cmpc | but should be done next week | 03:07 |
| LaserJock | ok | 03:08 |
| LaserJock | I had wanted to try to get a little more onto it | 03:08 |
| ogra_cmpc | alpha5 will definately have the new setup | 03:08 |
| LaserJock | but squeak is taking most of my *buntu time at the moment :( | 03:08 |
| LaserJock | the new octave3.0 is supposed to be a real good Matlab replacement | 03:08 |
| ogra_cmpc | we need to find a way to only have langpacks on there that are not on the ubuntu cd already | 03:08 |
| LaserJock | oh, that's a good point | 03:09 |
| ogra_cmpc | currently we waste a lot of space | 03:09 |
| LaserJock | ltsp is also on there as well, right? | 03:09 |
| LaserJock | but that doesn't take much space | 03:09 |
| ogra_cmpc | i'm not even sure anyone uses the langpacks from the cd | 03:09 |
| ogra_cmpc | nope | 03:09 |
| ogra_cmpc | no ltsp on there | 03:09 |
| LaserJock | it might be worth having all the gcompris sound packages if we don't already | 03:10 |
| ogra_cmpc | moodle, postgres, apache, php ... | 03:10 |
| LaserJock | those things are a pain to download | 03:10 |
| ogra_cmpc | everything in /live will go to addon | 03:10 |
| ogra_cmpc | -live | 03:10 |
| LaserJock | ah, shipaddon has then | 03:11 |
| LaserJock | *them | 03:11 |
| LaserJock | I spent a good part of the day in #gcompris | 03:11 |
| ogra_cmpc | we'll have the old edubuntu desktop again ... but with the difference that it depends on ubuntu-desktop | 03:11 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 03:11 |
| LaserJock | there's a new release of gcompris I'm gonna try to get into Hardy | 03:11 |
| LaserJock | it should fix a bunch of crashers | 03:11 |
| ogra_cmpc | great | 03:12 |
| * ogra_cmpc thinks he finally found the right combo of apps for a speedy and blingy cmpc desktop | 03:12 | |
| ogra_cmpc | i've tried a good amount of docks now on this HW ... cairo-dock is the first one thats not stuttering ... really impressive | 03:16 |
| LaserJock | I talked to the gcompris Debian maintainer and he said he'd have the new version shortly | 03:18 |
| LaserJock | I'll file a UVFe/sync request after that | 03:18 |
| ogra_cmpc | cool | 03:18 |
| achandrashekar | hello. I had posted to the list with my question(s) as well. Hoep someone can answer here as well. | 07:32 |
| achandrashekar | When installing in standalone mode. I first receive a message on a single nic device that I need to edit /etc/default/dhcp | 07:32 |
| achandrashekar | and then i notice that once installed NOT all packages are installed to make to serve ltsp | 07:32 |
| achandrashekar | as a result, I completely re-installed ltsp-standalone | 07:33 |
| achandrashekar | then..re-edit the dhcp.conf. | 07:33 |
| achandrashekar | The question is - Am I going about the standalone correctly? | 07:33 |
| achandrashekar | Next question is about failover-dhcp | 07:33 |
| achandrashekar | I couldnt get it working following the directions to the T on wiki | 07:34 |
| achandrashekar | but i had only one box installed, do i need both to be up? | 07:34 |
| achandrashekar | I couldnt even get the image to boot on my clients. | 07:34 |
| achandrashekar | but if i try to get a simple config of dhcp.conf...then no issues. | 07:34 |
| achandrashekar | all right we will try the mail lists....again. | 09:43 |
| achandrashekar | :/ | 09:43 |
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| lowercase_ | greetz everyone | 10:38 |
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| edu_help_pls | hello | 20:24 |
| edu_help_pls | is there anybody who can help me with an issue? | 20:24 |
| edu_help_pls | ? | 20:25 |
| edu_help_pls | who can help me with an issue with edubuntu??? | 20:27 |
| laga_ | edu_help_pls: ask a question and wait - someone might have an answer | 20:27 |
| edu_help_pls | ok | 20:27 |
| edu_help_pls | so | 20:27 |
| edu_help_pls | i have tried to implement a project with edubuntu. 1 server and 20 diskless clients. 10/100 24 port switch. 10/100/1000 nic. I need to run Firefox on all clients. But when 3-4-5 clients access a flash website any other client does not respond as the network is suffocated | 20:29 |
| edu_help_pls | the network reaches 12MBs traffic | 20:29 |
| edu_help_pls | why???? | 20:29 |
| edu_help_pls | is flash doing so much traffic???? | 20:29 |
| edu_help_pls | flash=swf | 20:30 |
| laga_ | edu_help_pls: relax with the question marks. i don't have an answer (other than flash playback probably takes a lot of playback as each picture is transmitted over the network). | 20:31 |
| laga_ | maybe someone in here knows :) | 20:31 |
| edu_help_pls | but i hope there is a sollution because otherwise i'm dead | 20:32 |
| edu_help_pls | :( | 20:32 |
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