| danroj | hi | 00:21 |
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| === erUSUL_ is now known as erUSUL | ||
| Nafallo | hmm | 00:34 |
| Nafallo | drunk and still remember my passwords | 00:34 |
| Nafallo | this is no good | 00:34 |
| erUSUL | Nafallo: yep; they are too easy | 00:34 |
| LjL | Nafallo: hey you aren't identified to services | 00:34 |
| erUSUL | XD | 00:34 |
| LjL | fix that fast | 00:34 |
| Nafallo | 00:35 [FreeNode] -!- : is identified to services | 00:35 |
| LjL | Nafallo: way not drunk enough | 00:35 |
| Nafallo | erUSUL: easy? at least 15 chars with letters, caps, numbers and special chars. | 00:36 |
| LjL | shuuure | 00:36 |
| LjL | and i can read perl | 00:36 |
| erUSUL | Nafallo: ;) then you are not drunk enough | 00:37 |
| Nafallo | :-D | 00:37 |
| Pici | Perhaps you could read perl drunk.. | 00:37 |
| Nafallo | you guys should come to London :-) | 00:37 |
| LjL | Pici: that i can't exclude - however i'm not myself drunk | 00:37 |
| Pici | Its a bit far for me. | 00:37 |
| LjL | i should for sure | 00:37 |
| Nafallo | get proper drunk and then start abusing our powers ;-) | 00:38 |
| LjL | hm? why would i need to be drunk to do that? | 00:38 |
| Nafallo | haha | 00:39 |
| erUSUL | XXDD hey i can not do the same here.... | 00:39 |
| Nafallo | hehe. I never abuse my powers :-) | 00:39 |
| Nafallo | would probably destroy humanity if I did ;-) | 00:39 |
| jpatrick | LjL: now I am what's up? | 09:51 |
| jpatrick | lemme guess, logs not showing up | 09:51 |
| jpatrick | LjL: logs, yay, http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/02/16/%23ubuntu-irc.html | 09:54 |
| civija | hy guys | 12:04 |
| civija | i need some help with problematic user which is opening channels in ubuntu-* hierarchy and calling them official | 12:04 |
| civija | i.e. #kubuntu-hr | 12:05 |
| jpatrick | civija: what's up? | 12:05 |
| civija | jpatrick: we from #ubuntu-hr have problem with some user | 12:06 |
| civija | he has opened #kubuntu-hr and calling it official croatian kubuntu channel | 12:06 |
| civija | he has just copied topic from #ubuntu-hr and changed a few letters | 12:07 |
| jpatrick | civija: there does not appear to be anything in that channel | 12:07 |
| jpatrick | civija: but we can have it closed down if you wish | 12:07 |
| civija | we have tryed reason with him and explain him but he just ignores us and has kicked us | 12:07 |
| ompaul | Channel: #kubuntu-hr Registered: 1 day (17h 52m 18s) ago | 12:07 |
| civija | jpatrick: maybe he has left in meantime | 12:08 |
| civija | look at #kubuntu-hr and #kubuntu-cro | 12:08 |
| civija | username was djankov | 12:08 |
| jpatrick | I see him | 12:08 |
| civija | or CroGNOME | 12:09 |
| civija | jpatrick: please try to explain him or close it down | 12:09 |
| ompaul | elkbuntu, you awake? | 12:09 |
| jpatrick | civija: so, you'd like to have both closed down? | 12:09 |
| civija | yes | 12:09 |
| jpatrick | one mo, I'll see what I can do | 12:10 |
| civija | ok, tnx | 12:10 |
| jpatrick | civija: there's a dodobas in #k-hr | 12:11 |
| elkbuntu | ompaul, yes, 'sup? | 12:12 |
| civija | jpatrick: his a member from #ubuntu-hr, he also has tryed to explain him | 12:12 |
| civija | i'll tell him to quit from channel | 12:12 |
| jpatrick | elkbuntu: scroll up | 12:12 |
| jpatrick | ;) | 12:13 |
| elkbuntu | civija, are you the croatian contact? | 12:13 |
| civija | elkbuntu: i'm member from #ubuntu-hr loco team | 12:14 |
| civija | i'm not contact from #ubuntu-hr channel but i can tell him to join here | 12:14 |
| elkbuntu | civija, requests of this type need to be made by team contacts | 12:14 |
| elkbuntu | please | 12:14 |
| civija | ok, one moment | 12:15 |
| * jpatrick is talking to the guy in #k-hr | 12:15 | |
| ompaul | elkbuntu, that was what I called you for - sorry I left the room for rejoin lag | 12:16 |
| * jpatrick gets the #k-cro guy in | 12:17 | |
| jpatrick | 06:24 ** mode/#kubuntu-cro [+b *!*n=jon@*ubuntu/member/jpatrick] by djankov | 12:18 |
| jpatrick | 06:24 ** jpatrick was kicked from #kubuntu-cro by djankov [djankov] | 12:18 |
| civija | elkbuntu: do you need a contact from #ubuntu-hr channel or contact from ubuntu-l10n-hr team? | 12:18 |
| dodobas | yello | 12:18 |
| elkbuntu | civija, the loco contact | 12:18 |
| civija | i see he has kicked jpatrick :) | 12:18 |
| jpatrick | civija: not very nice... | 12:18 |
| dodobas | im loco contact for croatian team | 12:19 |
| civija | elkbuntu: team owner is ivoks (ubuntu-member) but he is not here right now | 12:19 |
| civija | i'm team administrator | 12:19 |
| elkbuntu | civija, team owner is different from contact. contact is the person we communicate with the team through | 12:19 |
| jpatrick | elkbuntu: I could set Riddell on you ;) | 12:19 |
| djankov | IN YOUR FACE! | 12:20 |
| elkbuntu | jpatrick, only if he's wearing his kilt | 12:20 |
| elkbuntu | djankov, please dont troll | 12:20 |
| jpatrick | elkbuntu: he is the contact for all #kubuntu* channels | 12:20 |
| elkbuntu | jpatrick, loco channels are independantly managed unless assistance is requested | 12:21 |
| elkbuntu | such as now | 12:21 |
| * jpatrick off to lunch | 12:22 | |
| civija | but he doesn't have a loco team, he has just opened channel and called it official | 12:22 |
| elkbuntu | ompaul, i'm inclined to side with dodobas and civija, based on djankov's display of idiocy | 12:22 |
| elkbuntu | civija, i'm not doubting it | 12:22 |
| ompaul | elkbuntu, +1 | 12:22 |
| dodobas | elkbuntu: we tried to talk | 12:22 |
| elkbuntu | dodobas, i believe you | 12:22 |
| dodobas | there is just no way | 12:22 |
| elkbuntu | he's shown us that quite categorically | 12:23 |
| ompaul | civija, there is a process that needs to be gone through so that in cases where the claim is not valid it does not happen | 12:23 |
| civija | ompaul: ok, np | 12:23 |
| ompaul | civija, this is not a reflection on the person making the claim, it is a protection for those acting on any claim, it makes it easy to help / administrate | 12:24 |
| civija | ok | 12:24 |
| elkbuntu | *sigh* as per usual, no staff online :( | 12:25 |
| Nafallo | elkbuntu: Dave2 wrote text less than 10 minutes ago | 12:26 |
| elkbuntu | dodobas, do you wish for the channels to just be forwarded to the existing channel (#ubuntu-hr) and ownership transferred to the #ubuntu-hr owner (ivoks) | 12:29 |
| Dave2 | ? | 12:31 |
| dodobas | no forwarding is needed, or ownership | 12:31 |
| elkbuntu | dodobas, so just close and lock? | 12:31 |
| civija | elkbuntu: yes please | 12:31 |
| elkbuntu | dodobas or civija, please list affected channels | 12:32 |
| elkbuntu | Dave2, we needs your staffer-fu in a sec | 12:32 |
| civija | #kubuntu-hr and #kubuntu-cro | 12:32 |
| civija | elkbuntu: you can forward #kubuntu-hr to #ubuntu-hr but please close #kubuntu-cro | 12:33 |
| elkbuntu | dodobas, are you in agreement with civija's last statement? | 12:33 |
| dodobas | yes, those channels are problematic | 12:34 |
| civija | dodobas: do you agree that they forward #kubuntu-hr to #ubuntu-hr? | 12:34 |
| civija | this would help if someone tries to open #kubuntu-hr again | 12:35 |
| dodobas | ofcourse | 12:35 |
| dodobas | and if anyone would like to maintain #kubuntu-hr, it can be removed | 12:35 |
| ompaul | dodobas, that is the idea | 12:35 |
| dodobas | kuul, i agree | 12:36 |
| elkbuntu | dodobas, i personally recommend having #kubuntu-hr, #kubuntu-cro and #kubuntu-croatia (and if non-existant, #ubuntu-cro and #ubuntu-croatia) forwarded to #ubuntu-hr | 12:36 |
| elkbuntu | that means you have more chance of people getting to the channel with guesses | 12:36 |
| dodobas | right, please make it so | 12:37 |
| elkbuntu | Dave2, if it's not too much to ask :) ^^ | 12:37 |
| ompaul | civija, pm | 12:37 |
| Dave2 | I just need to check who has authority over the #ubuntu- and #kubuntu- namespaces first, not sure how long that'll take | 12:38 |
| elkbuntu | Dave2, i'm part of the IRC council, we've had our GCFs in for like 5 months now | 12:39 |
| elkbuntu | technically seveas has authority, but he retired from the role several months ago. freenode is dragging the chain | 12:40 |
| ompaul | !es | 12:48 |
| ompaul | !de | 12:48 |
| ubotu | Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda. | 12:48 |
| ubotu | Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de | 12:48 |
| ompaul | civija, ^^ like that kind of thing | 12:48 |
| civija | ompaul: yes, i get it now :) | 12:48 |
| civija | wait just a moment | 12:48 |
| ompaul | civija, thanks | 12:48 |
| civija | ompaul: Odgovarajući kanal za Hrvatski jezik je #ubuntu-hr, molimo Vas da se pridružite tom kanalu ukoliko trebate pomoć za Ubuntu, hvala. | 12:51 |
| civija | wait | 12:51 |
| ompaul | civija, ok | 12:51 |
| civija | ompaul: Odgovarajuci kanal za Hrvatski jezik je #ubuntu-hr, molimo Vas da se pridruzite tom kanalu ukoliko trebate pomoc za Ubuntu, hvala. | 12:51 |
| civija | please use this one | 12:51 |
| civija | tnx | 12:51 |
| ompaul | !no hr is <reply> Odgovarajuci kanal za Hrvatski jezik je #ubuntu-hr, molimo Vas da se pridruzite tom kanalu ukoliko trebate pomoc za Ubuntu, hvala. Croatian language support in #ubuntu-hr | 12:52 |
| ubotu | I'll remember that ompaul | 12:52 |
| ompaul | !botsnack | 12:52 |
| ubotu | Yum! Err, I mean, APT! | 12:52 |
| dodobas | hehe, nice bot | 12:52 |
| ompaul | civija, thank you for that | 12:52 |
| ompaul | dodobas, source is available | 12:52 |
| civija | ompaul: thank you | 12:53 |
| dodobas | yeah, thx | 12:54 |
| ompaul | civija, no problem | 12:54 |
| jpatrick | civija: anything else, just ask | 12:55 |
| civija | jpatrick: ok, tnx :) | 12:55 |
| dodobas | ompaul: source is tha force :) | 12:55 |
| ompaul | hahah | 12:55 |
| ompaul | Richard loves ya! | 12:56 |
| dodobas | maybe our chanop would be interested | 12:56 |
| ompaul | dodobas, pm | 12:56 |
| * jpatrick wonders what is with the pms | 12:57 | |
| ompaul | jpatrick, not irc loco things | 12:57 |
| jpatrick | ompaul: ah, ok :) | 12:57 |
| ompaul | jpatrick, getting translations of stuff | 12:57 |
| dodobas | jpatrick: its just another conspiracy theory :) | 12:57 |
| elkbuntu | dodobas, you weren't supposed to tell him! now he knows we're plotting his downfall! | 12:58 |
| ompaul | dodobas, why is it always the same people with the conspiracy theorys :) | 12:58 |
| civija | hahah :) | 12:58 |
| dodobas | what's the difference, he is going to fall anyway | 12:58 |
| dodobas | this is more interesting, now he will fight till the last breath | 12:58 |
| elkbuntu | yeah, but now someone else will get the glory :( | 12:59 |
| dodobas | its more fun to watch | 12:59 |
| jpatrick | elkbuntu: what's a GCF? | 13:00 |
| jpatrick | ah, wait, Group contact form | 13:00 |
| * elkbuntu pats jpatrick on the head | 13:00 | |
| elkbuntu | oh we're a clever one | 13:00 |
| dodobas | hihi | 13:01 |
| jpatrick | :) | 13:03 |
| Dave2 | elkbuntu, sorry about that, unfortunately I'm not a GCF person so can't really accelerate the process, as much as I see that it's needed. | 13:13 |
| elkbuntu | Dave2, so i'm not listed as GC then? | 13:13 |
| Dave2 | I'm not sure, no GC people have been around yet | 13:13 |
| elkbuntu | you mean there's no way for you guys to check other than ask someone? | 13:14 |
| Dave2 | Though if you could get Seveas to poke me, then I know that at least one of you will be a GC, and I can do it. | 13:14 |
| Dave2 | Not at this point in time, no | 13:14 |
| elkbuntu | that is rather lame... this is the internet age! | 13:15 |
| Dave2 | We're planning on a web-based system to aid this, but it doesn't exist yet, unfortunately | 13:15 |
| Seveas | Dave2, prod | 13:16 |
| Seveas | Dave2, I'm current group contact for Ubuntu | 13:16 |
| Dave2 | I agree that the major delay is somewhat of an issue, but unfortunately it's what we've got at the moment. | 13:17 |
| Dave2 | Seveas, right | 13:17 |
| * Dave2 scrolls up to see what was requested again | 13:17 | |
| Seveas | because freenode has been horrendously slow processing our gcf requests we currently have this mess | 13:17 |
| Seveas | Dave2, so either process the GCF of elkbuntu's requests :) | 13:17 |
| Dave2 | Unfortunately I'm not a GCF person, so can't do anything to speed it up. | 13:17 |
| elkbuntu | s/of/or/ | 13:18 |
| Seveas | you could poke the relevant people Dave2 | 13:18 |
| ompaul | Dave2, you have the instruction that is what he means ;-) | 13:18 |
| Seveas | elkbuntu, sorry, dutchism there (of is dutch for or) | 13:18 |
| Dave2 | ompaul, yup, that's what I'm just checking | 13:18 |
| elkbuntu | Dave2, hobbsee would even lend you her pointy stick if you asked nice enough :) | 13:18 |
| Seveas | Dave2, I find it rather unacceptable that the largest community on freenode has to wait many months for processing GCFs | 13:18 |
| Dave2 | #kubuntu-hr, #kubuntu-cro, #kubuntu-croatia, #ubuntu-cro and #ubuntu-croatia -> #ubuntu-hr, right? | 13:18 |
| elkbuntu | Dave2, yep, thanks | 13:19 |
| Dave2 | Seveas, I'll do what I can to attempt to get it sped up, but as a non-GCF person I don't have any direct involvement; I know it's definitely not good. | 13:19 |
| Dave2 | #kubuntu-croatia, #ubuntu-cro, and #ubuntu-croatia appear to not exist, so I'll let the relevant people deal with those | 13:23 |
| dodobas | Dave2: can you create those too, so if anyone tries to guess a Croatian support channell with those name will be forwared to #ubuntu-hr | 13:25 |
| dodobas | *names | 13:25 |
| Dave2 | It's probably simpler for someone directly involved with the channel to register and forward them | 13:26 |
| elkbuntu | Dave2, dodobas may need instruction on how | 13:27 |
| Dave2 | The two channels which were registered are now forwarded | 13:27 |
| civija | Dave2: tnx | 13:27 |
| dodobas | so we need to register the channels, and then | 13:28 |
| dodobas | i dont know how to forward them | 13:28 |
| ompaul | dodobas, join and | 13:28 |
| Dave2 | Ah, right; once the channel's registered, /msg chanserv set <#channel> guard on, then /msg chanserv set <#channel> mlock +nif #ubuntu-hr | 13:28 |
| dodobas | Dave2 tnx, ill ask, our channel op to do that | 13:29 |
| civija | thank you all for your help! | 13:31 |
| elkbuntu | dodobas, i suggest you do the registering yourself asap, then transfer contactship to ivoks | 13:32 |
| elkbuntu | or the troll will quickly move to them | 13:33 |
| dodobas | we are doing it right now | 13:33 |
| Dave2 | No problem, and sorry about the slow GCF processing issue :/ | 13:33 |
| dodobas | just one more thing to ask | 13:40 |
| dodobas | how to change contact on a channel | 13:41 |
| dodobas | that is currently set to freenode-staff | 13:41 |
| Dave2 | if you're a group contact for the project, you ask a member of staff to give it to you. in general channels registered to freenode-staff are closed or redirected, though. | 13:42 |
| dodobas | oki, we'll deal with it if there is need for it | 13:45 |
| dodobas | elkbuntu: ivoks is no logner loco-contact for Croatian team, i'm currently appointed | 13:48 |
| LjL | jpatrick | 15:39 |
| LjL | i got mail from RT | 15:39 |
| LjL | jpatrick: i'm not sure if it means i have to do something, or it's just meant as a notification | 15:40 |
| jpatrick | LjL: about ubuntulog in -irc? | 15:40 |
| LjL | yes jpatrick | 15:40 |
| jpatrick | he's here no? :) | 15:40 |
| LjL | jpatrick: yes but | 15:40 |
| jpatrick | you got the mail because you were subscribed | 15:40 |
| LjL | jpatrick: i can't close that ticket | 15:41 |
| LjL | because i have no login or password to begin with | 15:41 |
| LjL | and i never received a ticket number for my request | 15:41 |
| jpatrick | LjL: it has been closed | 15:41 |
| LjL | ok, so was just a FYI | 15:41 |
| LjL | wasn't clear | 15:41 |
| jpatrick | http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/02/16/%23ubuntu-irc.html | 15:42 |
| jpatrick | "Fri Feb 15 17:05:55 2008 nick - Status changed from 'open' to 'resolved'" | 15:43 |
| jpatrick | and krap that's danroj at the top | 15:43 |
| jpatrick | LjL: I'm going to try and get ubuntulog into the -offtopic channels, ok with you? | 15:44 |
| LjL | jpatrick: yeah, he came in yesterday. but are you quoting from that page? | 15:44 |
| LjL | jpatrick: uhm, no, likely not | 15:44 |
| LjL | jpatrick: the offtopic channels were always meant as not logged as far as i'm aware, i'll ask rest of council | 15:45 |
| jpatrick | LjL: no, from "https://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=652" | 15:45 |
| LjL | ah right | 15:45 |
| jpatrick | LjL: well, if you need logs for other channels, I've had luck with the Canonical guys | 15:46 |
| Pricey | I don't think the offtopic channels should be logged. | 15:48 |
| LjL | jpatrick: well, hopefully RT will get smoother for everyone. i don't like the idea that one gets them to do stuff only if they know people | 15:49 |
| LjL | but i think this issue has been discussed by the CC | 15:49 |
| Pricey | jpatrick, do you do rt? | 15:49 |
| Pricey | wait no i'm silly | 15:49 |
| Pricey | maybe not | 15:50 |
| jpatrick | Pricey: no, but I seem to get the Canonical when they're around | 15:50 |
| LjL | Pricey: yes yes, you're silly, don't worry | 15:50 |
| jpatrick | guys* | 15:51 |
| jpatrick | LjL: it's not just one guy, they just need more people (appartently) | 15:52 |
| LjL | jpatrick: sure, not blaming anyone, i don't even remotely know them so that would be silly - just saying it's not an ideal state of things | 15:57 |
| ergun | are there Ubuntu 7.10 users here? | 21:07 |
| erUSUL | ergun: for help go to #ubuntu | 21:11 |
| erUSUL | ergun: that's the support channel | 21:11 |
| erUSUL | ergun: this is a channel for ubuntu related channel ops | 21:12 |
| ergun | sorry what are you doing here | 21:14 |
| jpatrick | ergun: this channel is for internation ops | 21:19 |
| ergun | ok have fun guys ! see you | 21:22 |
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