[00:21] hi === erUSUL_ is now known as erUSUL [00:34] hmm [00:34] drunk and still remember my passwords [00:34] this is no good [00:34] Nafallo: yep; they are too easy [00:34] Nafallo: hey you aren't identified to services [00:34] XD [00:34] fix that fast [00:35] 00:35 [FreeNode] -!- : is identified to services [00:35] Nafallo: way not drunk enough [00:36] erUSUL: easy? at least 15 chars with letters, caps, numbers and special chars. [00:36] shuuure [00:36] and i can read perl [00:37] Nafallo: ;) then you are not drunk enough [00:37] :-D [00:37] Perhaps you could read perl drunk.. [00:37] you guys should come to London :-) [00:37] Pici: that i can't exclude - however i'm not myself drunk [00:37] Its a bit far for me. [00:37] i should for sure [00:38] get proper drunk and then start abusing our powers ;-) [00:38] hm? why would i need to be drunk to do that? [00:39] haha [00:39] XXDD hey i can not do the same here.... [00:39] hehe. I never abuse my powers :-) [00:39] would probably destroy humanity if I did ;-) [09:51] LjL: now I am what's up? [09:51] lemme guess, logs not showing up [09:54] LjL: logs, yay, http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/02/16/%23ubuntu-irc.html [12:04] hy guys [12:04] i need some help with problematic user which is opening channels in ubuntu-* hierarchy and calling them official [12:05] i.e. #kubuntu-hr [12:05] civija: what's up? [12:06] jpatrick: we from #ubuntu-hr have problem with some user [12:06] he has opened #kubuntu-hr and calling it official croatian kubuntu channel [12:07] he has just copied topic from #ubuntu-hr and changed a few letters [12:07] civija: there does not appear to be anything in that channel [12:07] civija: but we can have it closed down if you wish [12:07] we have tryed reason with him and explain him but he just ignores us and has kicked us [12:07] Channel: #kubuntu-hr Registered: 1 day (17h 52m 18s) ago [12:08] jpatrick: maybe he has left in meantime [12:08] look at #kubuntu-hr and #kubuntu-cro [12:08] username was djankov [12:08] I see him [12:09] or CroGNOME [12:09] jpatrick: please try to explain him or close it down [12:09] elkbuntu, you awake? [12:09] civija: so, you'd like to have both closed down? [12:09] yes [12:10] one mo, I'll see what I can do [12:10] ok, tnx [12:11] civija: there's a dodobas in #k-hr [12:12] ompaul, yes, 'sup? [12:12] jpatrick: his a member from #ubuntu-hr, he also has tryed to explain him [12:12] i'll tell him to quit from channel [12:12] elkbuntu: scroll up [12:13] ;) [12:13] civija, are you the croatian contact? [12:14] elkbuntu: i'm member from #ubuntu-hr loco team [12:14] i'm not contact from #ubuntu-hr channel but i can tell him to join here [12:14] civija, requests of this type need to be made by team contacts [12:14] please [12:15] ok, one moment [12:15] * jpatrick is talking to the guy in #k-hr [12:16] elkbuntu, that was what I called you for - sorry I left the room for rejoin lag [12:17] * jpatrick gets the #k-cro guy in [12:18] 06:24 ** mode/#kubuntu-cro [+b *!*n=jon@*ubuntu/member/jpatrick] by djankov [12:18] 06:24 ** jpatrick was kicked from #kubuntu-cro by djankov [djankov] [12:18] elkbuntu: do you need a contact from #ubuntu-hr channel or contact from ubuntu-l10n-hr team? [12:18] yello [12:18] civija, the loco contact [12:18] i see he has kicked jpatrick :) [12:18] civija: not very nice... [12:19] im loco contact for croatian team [12:19] elkbuntu: team owner is ivoks (ubuntu-member) but he is not here right now [12:19] i'm team administrator [12:19] civija, team owner is different from contact. contact is the person we communicate with the team through [12:19] elkbuntu: I could set Riddell on you ;) [12:20] IN YOUR FACE! [12:20] jpatrick, only if he's wearing his kilt [12:20] djankov, please dont troll [12:20] elkbuntu: he is the contact for all #kubuntu* channels [12:21] jpatrick, loco channels are independantly managed unless assistance is requested [12:21] such as now [12:22] * jpatrick off to lunch [12:22] but he doesn't have a loco team, he has just opened channel and called it official [12:22] ompaul, i'm inclined to side with dodobas and civija, based on djankov's display of idiocy [12:22] civija, i'm not doubting it [12:22] elkbuntu, +1 [12:22] elkbuntu: we tried to talk [12:22] dodobas, i believe you [12:22] there is just no way [12:23] he's shown us that quite categorically [12:23] civija, there is a process that needs to be gone through so that in cases where the claim is not valid it does not happen [12:23] ompaul: ok, np [12:24] civija, this is not a reflection on the person making the claim, it is a protection for those acting on any claim, it makes it easy to help / administrate [12:24] ok [12:25] *sigh* as per usual, no staff online :( [12:26] elkbuntu: Dave2 wrote text less than 10 minutes ago [12:29] dodobas, do you wish for the channels to just be forwarded to the existing channel (#ubuntu-hr) and ownership transferred to the #ubuntu-hr owner (ivoks) [12:31] ? [12:31] no forwarding is needed, or ownership [12:31] dodobas, so just close and lock? [12:31] elkbuntu: yes please [12:32] dodobas or civija, please list affected channels [12:32] Dave2, we needs your staffer-fu in a sec [12:32] #kubuntu-hr and #kubuntu-cro [12:33] elkbuntu: you can forward #kubuntu-hr to #ubuntu-hr but please close #kubuntu-cro [12:33] dodobas, are you in agreement with civija's last statement? [12:34] yes, those channels are problematic [12:34] dodobas: do you agree that they forward #kubuntu-hr to #ubuntu-hr? [12:35] this would help if someone tries to open #kubuntu-hr again [12:35] ofcourse [12:35] and if anyone would like to maintain #kubuntu-hr, it can be removed [12:35] dodobas, that is the idea [12:36] kuul, i agree [12:36] dodobas, i personally recommend having #kubuntu-hr, #kubuntu-cro and #kubuntu-croatia (and if non-existant, #ubuntu-cro and #ubuntu-croatia) forwarded to #ubuntu-hr [12:36] that means you have more chance of people getting to the channel with guesses [12:37] right, please make it so [12:37] Dave2, if it's not too much to ask :) ^^ [12:37] civija, pm [12:38] I just need to check who has authority over the #ubuntu- and #kubuntu- namespaces first, not sure how long that'll take [12:39] Dave2, i'm part of the IRC council, we've had our GCFs in for like 5 months now [12:40] technically seveas has authority, but he retired from the role several months ago. freenode is dragging the chain [12:48] !es [12:48] !de [12:48] Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda. [12:48] Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de [12:48] civija, ^^ like that kind of thing [12:48] ompaul: yes, i get it now :) [12:48] wait just a moment [12:48] civija, thanks [12:51] ompaul: Odgovarajući kanal za Hrvatski jezik je #ubuntu-hr, molimo Vas da se pridružite tom kanalu ukoliko trebate pomoć za Ubuntu, hvala. [12:51] wait [12:51] civija, ok [12:51] ompaul: Odgovarajuci kanal za Hrvatski jezik je #ubuntu-hr, molimo Vas da se pridruzite tom kanalu ukoliko trebate pomoc za Ubuntu, hvala. [12:51] please use this one [12:51] tnx [12:52] !no hr is Odgovarajuci kanal za Hrvatski jezik je #ubuntu-hr, molimo Vas da se pridruzite tom kanalu ukoliko trebate pomoc za Ubuntu, hvala. Croatian language support in #ubuntu-hr [12:52] I'll remember that ompaul [12:52] !botsnack [12:52] Yum! Err, I mean, APT! [12:52] hehe, nice bot [12:52] civija, thank you for that [12:52] dodobas, source is available [12:53] ompaul: thank you [12:54] yeah, thx [12:54] civija, no problem [12:55] civija: anything else, just ask [12:55] jpatrick: ok, tnx :) [12:55] ompaul: source is tha force :) [12:55] hahah [12:56] Richard loves ya! [12:56] maybe our chanop would be interested [12:56] dodobas, pm [12:57] * jpatrick wonders what is with the pms [12:57] jpatrick, not irc loco things [12:57] ompaul: ah, ok :) [12:57] jpatrick, getting translations of stuff [12:57] jpatrick: its just another conspiracy theory :) [12:58] dodobas, you weren't supposed to tell him! now he knows we're plotting his downfall! [12:58] dodobas, why is it always the same people with the conspiracy theorys :) [12:58] hahah :) [12:58] what's the difference, he is going to fall anyway [12:58] this is more interesting, now he will fight till the last breath [12:59] yeah, but now someone else will get the glory :( [12:59] its more fun to watch [13:00] elkbuntu: what's a GCF? [13:00] ah, wait, Group contact form [13:00] * elkbuntu pats jpatrick on the head [13:00] oh we're a clever one [13:01] hihi [13:03] :) [13:13] elkbuntu, sorry about that, unfortunately I'm not a GCF person so can't really accelerate the process, as much as I see that it's needed. [13:13] Dave2, so i'm not listed as GC then? [13:13] I'm not sure, no GC people have been around yet [13:14] you mean there's no way for you guys to check other than ask someone? [13:14] Though if you could get Seveas to poke me, then I know that at least one of you will be a GC, and I can do it. [13:14] Not at this point in time, no [13:15] that is rather lame... this is the internet age! [13:15] We're planning on a web-based system to aid this, but it doesn't exist yet, unfortunately [13:16] Dave2, prod [13:16] Dave2, I'm current group contact for Ubuntu [13:17] I agree that the major delay is somewhat of an issue, but unfortunately it's what we've got at the moment. [13:17] Seveas, right [13:17] * Dave2 scrolls up to see what was requested again [13:17] because freenode has been horrendously slow processing our gcf requests we currently have this mess [13:17] Dave2, so either process the GCF of elkbuntu's requests :) [13:17] Unfortunately I'm not a GCF person, so can't do anything to speed it up. [13:18] s/of/or/ [13:18] you could poke the relevant people Dave2 [13:18] Dave2, you have the instruction that is what he means ;-) [13:18] elkbuntu, sorry, dutchism there (of is dutch for or) [13:18] ompaul, yup, that's what I'm just checking [13:18] Dave2, hobbsee would even lend you her pointy stick if you asked nice enough :) [13:18] Dave2, I find it rather unacceptable that the largest community on freenode has to wait many months for processing GCFs [13:18] #kubuntu-hr, #kubuntu-cro, #kubuntu-croatia, #ubuntu-cro and #ubuntu-croatia -> #ubuntu-hr, right? [13:19] Dave2, yep, thanks [13:19] Seveas, I'll do what I can to attempt to get it sped up, but as a non-GCF person I don't have any direct involvement; I know it's definitely not good. [13:23] #kubuntu-croatia, #ubuntu-cro, and #ubuntu-croatia appear to not exist, so I'll let the relevant people deal with those [13:25] Dave2: can you create those too, so if anyone tries to guess a Croatian support channell with those name will be forwared to #ubuntu-hr [13:25] *names [13:26] It's probably simpler for someone directly involved with the channel to register and forward them [13:27] Dave2, dodobas may need instruction on how [13:27] The two channels which were registered are now forwarded [13:27] Dave2: tnx [13:28] so we need to register the channels, and then [13:28] i dont know how to forward them [13:28] dodobas, join and [13:28] Ah, right; once the channel's registered, /msg chanserv set <#channel> guard on, then /msg chanserv set <#channel> mlock +nif #ubuntu-hr [13:29] Dave2 tnx, ill ask, our channel op to do that [13:31] thank you all for your help! [13:32] dodobas, i suggest you do the registering yourself asap, then transfer contactship to ivoks [13:33] or the troll will quickly move to them [13:33] we are doing it right now [13:33] No problem, and sorry about the slow GCF processing issue :/ [13:40] just one more thing to ask [13:41] how to change contact on a channel [13:41] that is currently set to freenode-staff [13:42] if you're a group contact for the project, you ask a member of staff to give it to you. in general channels registered to freenode-staff are closed or redirected, though. [13:45] oki, we'll deal with it if there is need for it [13:48] elkbuntu: ivoks is no logner loco-contact for Croatian team, i'm currently appointed [15:39] jpatrick [15:39] i got mail from RT [15:40] jpatrick: i'm not sure if it means i have to do something, or it's just meant as a notification [15:40] LjL: about ubuntulog in -irc? [15:40] yes jpatrick [15:40] he's here no? :) [15:40] jpatrick: yes but [15:40] you got the mail because you were subscribed [15:41] jpatrick: i can't close that ticket [15:41] because i have no login or password to begin with [15:41] and i never received a ticket number for my request [15:41] LjL: it has been closed [15:41] ok, so was just a FYI [15:41] wasn't clear [15:42] http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/02/16/%23ubuntu-irc.html [15:43] "Fri Feb 15 17:05:55 2008 nick - Status changed from 'open' to 'resolved'" [15:43] and krap that's danroj at the top [15:44] LjL: I'm going to try and get ubuntulog into the -offtopic channels, ok with you? [15:44] jpatrick: yeah, he came in yesterday. but are you quoting from that page? [15:44] jpatrick: uhm, no, likely not [15:45] jpatrick: the offtopic channels were always meant as not logged as far as i'm aware, i'll ask rest of council [15:45] LjL: no, from "https://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=652" [15:45] ah right [15:46] LjL: well, if you need logs for other channels, I've had luck with the Canonical guys [15:48] I don't think the offtopic channels should be logged. [15:49] jpatrick: well, hopefully RT will get smoother for everyone. i don't like the idea that one gets them to do stuff only if they know people [15:49] but i think this issue has been discussed by the CC [15:49] jpatrick, do you do rt? [15:49] wait no i'm silly [15:50] maybe not [15:50] Pricey: no, but I seem to get the Canonical when they're around [15:50] Pricey: yes yes, you're silly, don't worry [15:51] guys* [15:52] LjL: it's not just one guy, they just need more people (appartently) [15:57] jpatrick: sure, not blaming anyone, i don't even remotely know them so that would be silly - just saying it's not an ideal state of things [21:07] are there Ubuntu 7.10 users here? [21:11] ergun: for help go to #ubuntu [21:11] ergun: that's the support channel [21:12] ergun: this is a channel for ubuntu related channel ops [21:14] sorry what are you doing here [21:19] ergun: this channel is for internation ops [21:22] ok have fun guys ! see you