[00:23] <MythbuntuGuest78> hi
[00:23] <MythbuntuGuest78> im using mythtv but i want to mount a networkdriver automaticly how do i do that ?
[00:26] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest78, what do you mean mount a network driver?  You mean a network drive?  Is it NFS or SAMBA?
[00:29] <superm1> rogue780, hi
[00:29] <superm1> long time no see
[00:38] <MythbuntuGuest78> tgm4883_laptop its a sambaserver
[00:38] <MythbuntuGuest78> its a fileserver that i need tot mount
[00:40] <tgm4883_laptop> i assume you want to mount it at boot?
[00:42] <MythbuntuGuest78> yea , but fstab is reading before the network is up so i cant add it in there
[00:43] <tgm4883_laptop> thats odd
[00:43] <tgm4883_laptop> AFAIK, it shouldn't be
[00:43] <tgm4883_laptop> unless its a wireless connection
[00:44] <MythbuntuGuest78> no but it just wont work so i need it to put it somewhere else
[00:44] <tgm4883_laptop> can you mount it from the command line?
[00:44] <MythbuntuGuest78> ye
[00:44] <tgm4883_laptop> what command are you using to mount?
[00:44] <tgm4883_laptop> rhpot1991, ping
[00:45] <MythbuntuGuest78> sudo mount "//192.168.21.10/_-_-_ Films 1 _-_-_" /home/steven/server/Films1 -o uid=1000,password=media,username=mediacenter
[00:46] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm, and that works?
[00:46] <MythbuntuGuest78> yes
[00:47] <MythbuntuGuest18> yes it works perfectly
[00:47] <MythbuntuGuest18> i have added it in a file called mount.sh but its needed to execute automaticly when the pc starts
[00:48] <tgm4883_laptop> is this a mythbuntu install or a ubuntu install with mythtv added?
[00:49] <MythbuntuGuest18> mythbuntu
[00:51] <directhex> network mounts DO work from fstab
[00:51] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest18, how did you add it to fstab?
[00:52] <MythbuntuGuest18> yes but i always get an error
[00:52] <tgm4883_laptop> what error, and what is the fstab line?
[00:52] <MythbuntuGuest18> [mntent]: line 11 in /etc/fstab is bad
[00:52] <MythbuntuGuest18> "//192.168.21.10/_-_-_ Muziek _-_-_" /home/steven/server/Muziek -o uid=1000,password=media,username=mediacenter
[00:52] <directhex> what's the line? /me suspects the spaces are to blame
[00:53] <directhex> hang on, that's nothing like an fstab line
[00:53] <tgm4883_laptop> thats wrong
[00:53] <MythbuntuGuest18> it aint my server its a shared server 30 clients in this building
[00:53] <tgm4883_laptop> should look something like this
[00:53] <tgm4883_laptop> /server/share /mountpoint smbfs userid=foo,passwd=bar,rw 0 0
[00:53] <directhex> CIFS!
[00:53] <directhex> SMBFS IS DEAD!
[00:53] <tgm4883_laptop> err
[00:54] <tgm4883_laptop> yep
[00:54] <tgm4883_laptop> directhex is right
[00:54] <tgm4883_laptop> i just quickly copied and pasted a command
[00:54] <MythbuntuGuest18> hang on ill try
[00:54] <directhex> /despair/SharedData    /media/despair  cifs    auto,iocharset=utf8     0       0
[00:54] <directhex> that's straight from my desktop
[00:54] <directhex> target     mountpoint     filesystem     options     0     0
[00:55] <directhex> ^ that's how an fstab line should look
[00:55] <tgm4883_laptop> I think his line was close though
[00:55] <MythbuntuGuest18> same error
[00:55] <directhex> i *suspect* (but don't hold me to this) that you should manage your spaces using '\ ', i.e. //192.168.21.10/_-_-_\ Muziek\ _-_-_
[00:55] <tgm4883_laptop> "//192.168.21.10/_-_-_ Muziek _-_-_" /home/steven/server/Muziek cifs -o uid=1000,password=media,username=mediacenter 0 0
[00:56] <directhex> NO -o STANZA!
[00:56] <tgm4883_laptop> blarg
[00:56]  * tgm4883_laptop crawls into a whole
[00:56] <tgm4883_laptop> f
[00:56] <tgm4883_laptop> hole
[00:56] <directhex> If the name of the mount
[00:56] <directhex>        point contains spaces these can be escaped as ‘\040’.
[00:56] <directhex> from man fstab
[00:56] <tgm4883_laptop> if you couldn't tell
[00:56]  * tgm4883_laptop uses NFS
[00:57] <directhex> tgm4883, you don't use -o for nfs mounts either!
[00:57] <tgm4883_laptop> i know
[00:57] <tgm4883_laptop> I was just trying to adapt his line
[00:57] <tgm4883_laptop> I don't use most of that stuff
[00:57] <MythbuntuGuest18> same error @ //192.168.21.10/_-_-_/040Muziek/040_-_-_ /home/steven/server/Muziek cifs -o uid=1000,password=media,username=mediacenter 0 0
[00:58] <tgm4883_laptop> post the error
[00:58] <tgm4883_laptop> and no -o
[00:58] <MythbuntuGuest18> [mntent]: line 11 in /etc/fstab is bad
[00:58] <tgm4883_laptop> well, bad and not available are two different things
[00:58] <MythbuntuGuest18> retrying with upper case share name
[00:58] <tgm4883_laptop> remove the -o and try again
[00:58] <directhex> \040 not /040
[00:59] <MythbuntuGuest18> new error hang on : retrying with upper case share name / mount error 6 = No such device or address / Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g.man mount.cifs)
[00:59] <directhex> why are you retying with upper case? what about the above made it look like an upper case issue? O_o
[00:59] <tgm4883_laptop> /192.168.21.10/_-_-_\040Muziek\040_-_-_ /home/steven/server/Muziek cifs uid=1000,password=media,username=mediacenter 0 0
[00:59] <tgm4883_laptop> directhex, ^^ hows that?
[00:59] <directhex> that looks correct to me
[01:00] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest18, try that line ^^
[01:00] <tgm4883_laptop> directhex, does man fstab say anything about special characters?
[01:00] <MythbuntuGuest18> hang on i think i got something
[01:00] <directhex> MythbuntuGuest18, you a long-time windows user, out of interest?
[01:01] <MythbuntuGuest18> i use both
[01:02] <MythbuntuGuest18> rebooting mediacenter and then ill let ya know ive it works
[01:04] <MythbuntuGuest18> it works :D
[01:04] <MythbuntuGuest18> thanks guys !
[01:05] <MythbuntuGuest18> http://pastebin.ca/905806
[02:20] <rogue780> superm1, been busy w/work
[02:21] <superm1> rogue780, ah
[02:21] <superm1> back around for a bit then?
[02:21] <superm1> :)
[02:21] <rogue780> a bit more, yes
[02:22] <rogue780> I like how mythbuntu has come along. I've got two friends set up with it
[02:22] <superm1> aweomse :)
[02:22] <superm1> well you're just in time to test alpha2 if you'd like
[02:22] <superm1> of 8.04
[02:23] <rogue780> sounds good
[02:24] <rogue780> off topic but...anyone know of a good way to dynamically allocate an array of objects?
[02:24] <superm1> malloc?
[02:26] <rogue780> hmm...I should look into that
[02:32] <Kargarian> Hello anyone here?
[02:33] <Tuv0k> superm1, thx for your work
[03:20] <darthanubis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/191459
[03:20] <darthanubis> is there a package for this yet?
[03:56] <superm1> source package
[03:56] <superm1> probably not acked by admins yet
[03:57] <superm1> darthanubis, https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=upnp
[03:57] <superm1> you can build it locally if you want until the archive admins ack it
[04:00] <tgm4883_laptop> keescook, ping
[04:15] <termitor> hello
[04:15] <termitor> some one else can help my on xmvc + nvidia + mplayer (gutsy)
[04:17] <tgm4883_laptop> termitor, no one can help you
[04:17] <tgm4883_laptop> unless you state the problem
[04:18] <termitor> tgm4883: simply (my english is bad) use mplayer -vo xvmc some.vid , and /etc/X11/XcMCConfig = libXvMCNVIDIA.so.1 , gutsy + backport
[04:19] <termitor> and mplayer say video : no video ! no more info about mplayer
[04:20] <termitor> vo_xvmc: X-Video extension 2.2
[04:20] <termitor> vo_xvmc: X-Video MotionCompensation Extension version 1.1
[04:21] <tgm4883_laptop> termitor, what video card?
[04:22] <termitor> Couldn't open video filter 'pp'.
[04:22] <termitor> 7600gs drivers nvidia-new
[04:24] <termitor> tgm4883: some -vf option need ?
[04:29] <termitor> or vc option ?
[04:30] <matt_d> I'm looking to move from my custom myth setup to mythbuntu (to simplify OS and myth updates).  I'm currently running myth trunk, and upstream now has a 0.21-fixes branch.  So is are the weekly trunk builds now going to track this new 0.21 branch?
[04:37] <superm1> matt_d, starting this weekend yeah
[04:37] <superm1> they are already tracked in hardy
[04:39] <matt_d> thanks!  Just to confirm ... the sources at "http://weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org/mythbuntu-trunk/ubuntu", are actually tracking 0.21 now?
[04:40] <superm1> yeah
[04:40] <superm1> about a week old
[04:40] <rhpot1991> superm1: for the record, I had dpkg fail and had to apt-get -f install to make it finish up when upgrading to trunk
[04:41] <superm1> rhpot1991, yeah i know why
[04:41] <superm1> it's fixed in hardy
[04:41] <rhpot1991> alrighty
[04:41] <superm1> and will show up in this weekend's build
[04:41] <superm1> this whole libnet-upnp-perl in NEW sucks though for people
[04:41] <superm1> they can't install mythbackend in hardy until it shows up
[04:41] <rhpot1991> whats that mean exactly?
[04:41] <rhpot1991> ah ok
[04:42] <matt_d> cool.  just curious how will you switch to the real trunk once you want to move back to that.   Or is it "buyer beware" for people using them? :)
[04:42] <rhpot1991> how long will that take?
[04:42] <superm1> matt_d, well honestly haven't thought that far out
[04:42] <matt_d> :P
[04:42] <superm1> there have been tons of complications living in the present
[04:42] <superm1> so you know
[04:43] <superm1> rhpot1991, too long
[04:43] <superm1> because its a weekend
[04:43] <rhpot1991> I hope I can fix my multiple backend issue without dropping wifi, been slacking and haven't tried anything yet
[04:43] <rhpot1991> gonna go watch some recordings, maybe I'll mess with it after that
[04:44] <matt_d> superm1, would you recommend I jump straight to the hardy alpha then?  I've been running myth svn for ages, and submit some patches here and there.  I'm pretty comfortable living on the edge (of myth anyway).
[04:44] <superm1> matt_d, yeah the one we just posted on mythbuntu.org ~2hrs ago
[04:44] <matt_d> ok, thanks mate
[04:44] <superm1> you're gonna have some issues with updates for a few days though i'll warn
[04:45] <superm1> so just be wary
[04:45] <superm1> that's what rhpot1991 and i were just saying
[04:45] <superm1> since libnet-upnp-perl is in source NEW still
[04:45] <matt_d> what kinda update?  you mean hold off on doing any apt-get uprades for a bit?
[04:45] <superm1> moreover, just avoid updates until they are all resolvable
[04:45] <superm1> yeah
[04:45] <superm1> hold off for ~week or so
[04:46] <Lossif> hey for some reason, right after I rebooted my mythbox, my sound will only play for livetv and dvd's but nothing else, no mythvideo or music
[04:46] <matt_d> cool.   Is there a mailing list where these types of things are discussed?
[04:46] <superm1> matt_d, well we have a mailing list, but its not very active
[04:46] <superm1> that's a good idea to announce that there though
[04:46] <matt_d> ok.
[04:46] <superm1> ubuntu-mythtv@lists.ubuntu.com
[04:48] <matt_d> btw, I really like the look of mythbuntu.  I started my adventure with myth a year a go, and cobbled it together from kubuntu.   But it's a bit of a mess ... I'm hopeful that something more standard will be easier to keep undercontrol. :)
[04:48] <Lossif> oh, and I am using digital output for the sound...
[04:48] <superm1> matt_d, thanks.  if you have any suggestions, or if your an artsy kinda guy that wants to help with the look anywhere on anything, we're very open to those sorts of things
[04:49] <superm1> Lossif, try resetting your receiver
[04:49] <superm1> like power cycle it
[04:49] <superm1> and if that doesnt work you can try putting in an ~/.asoundrc like this
[04:50] <superm1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/4634/
[04:50] <Lossif> well the mythbox plays sound with live tv
[04:51] <Lossif> and with dvd's just not anything I ripped or dloaded
[04:51] <Lossif> or any of my mp3's
[04:51] <Lossif> and it did earileir today
[04:51] <superm1> yeah this takes effect box wide
[04:51] <superm1> its an override
[04:51] <matt_d> superm1, cool ... I'm more of a technical/coder type of guy.  My myth setup uses mythwelcome and autoshutdown/startup and that's the area I've submitted most of my myth patches.  So will be interested to see how easy this setup is with mythbuntu.  I'll let you know
[04:52] <superm1> matt_d, well there is no automated setup for a lot of that - that's one of those "we'll get to it when we can", but its fairly easy to activate mythwelcome at least
[04:52] <superm1> matt_d, perhaps you'll be able to help us in integrating items for getting those sorts of things in place
[04:53] <superm1> matt_d, you'll be able to activate mythwelcome in /etc/mythtv/session-settings at least
[04:53] <superm1> documentation may not indicate that as well as it should
[04:54] <matt_d> yeah I'd be interested in helping.  I was poking around the code projects in launchpad.  But I don't really know how the pieces hang together.  I'm pretty familiar with the ubuntu/debian way of doing things, but have not helped doing any direct packaging/building
[04:54] <superm1> well dont worry about the packaging itself, i'm a MOTU so i handle that part
[04:54] <superm1> once you get things setup, drop in #ubuntu-mythtv-dev and myself or another dev can try to start to walk you through how the code works
[04:55] <superm1> and where items would need to be placed codewise to cover different things
[04:55] <matt_d> ok.  I was just going to say the same.  once I get a feel of how it hangs together (e.g. the control center) ... I'll probably get a better idea.   thanks for your help.
[04:56] <superm1> no prob.  best of luck :)
[04:56] <Lossif> superm1: I just updated the ~/.asoundrc and rebooted... lets hope it works
[04:58] <Lossif> nope still no sound with anything other than tv and DVD
[04:58] <superm1> Lossif, well set the other apps to use the alsa:default device
[04:58] <superm1> rather than spdif (like you probably had before)
[04:58] <superm1> and this should force them to work through spdif (indirectly)
[05:00] <Lossif> any idea why it would suddenly stop working after a reboot?
[05:00] <superm1> Lossif, couldn't tell you why, but i've run into the same problems in the past
[05:00] <superm1> that's why i personally switched to this way of doing things
[05:00] <superm1> its much more consistent
[05:01] <Lossif> I had alsa selected already...
[05:01] <superm1> alsa:default?
[05:01] <superm1> or alsa:spdif?
[05:01] <Lossif> ...
[05:01] <Lossif> one sec...
[05:09] <pteague> which do you think would generate more heat? a sata i/o card or a hauppage pvr-500 ?
[05:11] <Lossif> is this what you had in mind for the ~/.asoundrc ?
[05:12] <superm1> yes
[05:12] <superm1> that's what is in my ~/.asoundrc
[05:12] <superm1> for the user that i run mythfrontend as
[05:21] <Lossif> superm1: thanks for you help, its getting late  and I will ahve to tackle this tomorrow, thanks alot though!
[05:21] <superm1> Lossif, no prob, hopefully that fix eventually works for you
[05:22] <superm1> Lossif, its worked great for me for almost 2 years :)
[05:22] <Lossif> well lets hope!
[05:49] <rxd> i was testing enabling mythlcdserver and the resolution after selecting them..now  i get blank screen how do i take them back..are the config written in the mysql database that i can change them?
[06:01] <matt_d> I know this is a tough one.  But can anyone recommend a filesystem for my video partition.  I've always only every used ext3, but I'm considering JFS or XFS.     Or should I just stick with ext3? :)
[06:01] <rhpot1991> I use xfs
[06:02] <rhpot1991> its better to use xfs or jfs cause they handle large file better
[06:02] <rhpot1991> though ext3 is generally more stable, so pick your poison
[06:02] <rxd> i got blank screen after testing enabling mythlcdserver and resolution how do i get them back
[06:10] <matt_d> thanks.  You personally had any issues with xfs?
[06:12] <rhpot1991> none that weren't my fault and sheer stupidity
[06:12] <rhpot1991> I was mounting a usb drive wrong and had it corrupting things every time it would power down
[06:13] <rhpot1991> you are pretty safe with xfs I would say, but ext3 is the best as far as recovery options goes
[06:25] <matt_d> thanks!
[06:26] <matt_d> <stupid question> I'm trying to install mythbuntu on a system without a mouse.  Any idea how to get focus to the "Install mythbuntu" icon on the desktop after the live CD boots?  :)
[06:26] <rhpot1991> tab not doign it?
[06:26] <matt_d> nope
[06:27] <matt_d> I can ctrl+esc to open the "applications menu".
[06:27] <matt_d> but the "install myth" option isn't there.
[06:27] <matt_d> it's probably a std gnome thing... but I'm not a gnome user.
[06:28] <rhpot1991> I've never tried actually, might be quicker to just go get a mouse than wait for an answer
[06:28] <matt_d>  I found an "install" option under the system menu. :)
[06:52] <TGKnIght> hello
[06:52] <TGKnIght> trying to download latest iso for mythbuntu AMD64
[06:52] <TGKnIght> but file is not found
[06:52] <TGKnIght> anyone have a torrent link
[06:54] <superm1> 8.04?
[06:54] <superm1> or 7.10?
[06:54] <superm1> TGKnIght, ^
[06:54] <TGKnIght> hi
[06:55] <TGKnIght> sorry yeah i didn't read what the alpha has
[06:55] <superm1> the alpha2 is 8.04
[06:55] <superm1> which mirror did you try?
[06:55] <TGKnIght> was gonna just get 7.10 for now
[06:55] <TGKnIght> http://linuxtracker.org/download.php?id=4768&name=mythbuntu-7.10-amd64.torrent
[06:56] <superm1> just grab a direct link
[06:56] <superm1> seems the torrents are out of date
[06:56] <superm1> we have ~10 mirrors, so you should get decent speed
[06:56] <TGKnIght> where is a list of mirrors, the links on mythbuntu.org not working for me? http://mythbuntu.org/download/?file=mythbuntu-7.10-amd64.iso
[06:57] <superm1> turn off your adblock plus
[06:57] <TGKnIght> is off
[06:57] <TGKnIght> and i tried in naked ie too
[06:57] <superm1> noscript?
[06:57] <superm1> its a redirect to load balance
[06:57] <TGKnIght> only use abp
[06:57] <superm1> so something on your end is filtering it
[06:57] <TGKnIght> turned off greasemonkey maybe  i had something inthere
[06:59] <TGKnIght> :-/
[06:59] <superm1> worked?
[06:59] <TGKnIght> not yet
[06:59] <rhpot1991> firefox has a safe mode flag
[07:00] <rhpot1991> --safe-mode IIRC
[07:00] <rhpot1991> starts it without any extensions
[07:00] <TGKnIght> k i had a shortcut
[07:00] <superm1> yeah the redirect/loadbalance is javascript
[07:00] <superm1> so
[07:01] <TGKnIght> heh no
[07:01] <TGKnIght> All add-ons have been disabled by safe mode.
[07:02] <TGKnIght> wtf i was able to download the other day
[07:02] <TGKnIght> lemme try from my web server sorry for the hassle but thanks for the help :)
[07:03] <TGKnIght> yeah it worked on there thanks for the help
[07:03] <TGKnIght> maybe my hosts file is blocking it
[07:04] <superm1> well google analytics is used for it
[07:04] <superm1> so if you are filtering that
[07:04] <TGKnIght> wierd part was i added it to trusted sites in my ie and it wouldnt' work there either
[07:04] <TGKnIght> oh well
[07:13] <TGKnIght> thanks for the help bye
[07:22] <Sadarax> I have been having trouble connecting to my Mythbuntu box recently via VNC. (Thread about it here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/vnc-through-ssh-tunnel-connection-problems-after-apt-upgrade-621538/#post3058920).
[07:22] <Sadarax> It happened around the same time as the new kernel images/modules came out around a few days ago
[07:26] <superm1> hardy or gutsy?
[07:27] <superm1> oh looks like gutsy
[07:27] <superm1> (it's entirely broken for hardy atm)
[07:27] <Sadarax> mythbuntu 7.10
[07:27] <superm1> look at your Xorg.0.log
[07:27] <superm1> thats where the vnc module loads
[07:28] <superm1> for mythbuntu
[07:28] <Sadarax> What should I be looking for there?
[07:29] <superm1> any errors about loading that module
[07:29] <Sadarax> I even tried using ssh with -X (for x11 forwarding) but I got a "Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:" error
[07:30] <superm1> if you're going to X forward, you may need to use the -Y
[07:30] <superm1> additionally
[07:30] <Sadarax> Oh, thanks
[07:30] <Sadarax> Hmm, same error
[07:32] <superm1> well that should fix apps randomly crashing from X forwarding
[07:32] <superm1> but that way you are starting VNC
[07:32] <superm1> that's not necessary
[07:32] <superm1> you should have X listening on the vnc port already when you configured vnc in mythbuntu
[07:33] <Sadarax> I don't quite understand. I have been doing this tunneling through SSH with VNC for years now
[07:33] <superm1> yeah i'm just saying the way it was pre-setup, you didnt need to do it like that
[07:34] <Sadarax> Okay. I am willing to try different configurations, but I am just wondering why it was working and then suddenly stopped.
[07:37] <Sadarax> Do you have a suggestion on how to get VNC working again?
[07:38] <superm1> well start out by making sure its listening after you launch that binary
[07:38] <superm1> with netstat
[07:42] <Sadarax> Well, I don't see anything in netstat for vnc or the word tight
[07:42] <Sadarax> And looking at my ~/.vnc/ log file, I see a bunch of errors
[07:43] <Sadarax> Just like I have posted in that thread there
[07:43] <superm1> those are from you killing the X server it looks like though
[07:43] <superm1> the first warnings aren't a big deal it looks like
[07:56] <Sadarax> Like I said, I cannot see any reference to VNC in netstat output. What do I do now?
[08:00] <rxd> enable VNC, do netstat -tap | grep inetd see if 5900 is there
[08:08] <superm1> well inetd might not be there
[08:08] <superm1> but netstat -tap | grep 5900
[08:08] <superm1> would be sufficient
[08:12] <rxd> if i mess up settings and get blank screen running backend and frontend how do i fixed it, is there a conf file to bring back original settings
[08:13] <Sadarax> Well, since i put the desktop on number 9, I see the result for (netstat -tap | grep 590): tcp        0      0 *:5909                  *:*                     LISTEN     5639/Xtightvnc
[08:15] <rxd> Xtightvnc localhost;9
[08:17] <Sadarax> rxd, were you asking a different question, or were you replying to me?
[08:17] <rxd> replying to you
[08:17] <Sadarax> Oh
[08:18] <Sadarax> Yeah, this is the command I use to start VNC on my remote machine: tightvncserver :9 -geometry 1024x768 -depth 16
[08:18] <rxd> and it works
[08:18] <Sadarax> It worked for years until just a few days ago
[08:18] <Sadarax> Then I connect via ssh using the -L 5900:localhost:5909
[08:19] <Sadarax> Then I use a VNC viewer on my local machine and connect to vnc:/127.0.0.1:0 and it opens right up
[08:21] <rxd> i don't understand, like you're port forwarding?
[08:23] <Sadarax> Yeah
[08:23] <Sadarax> I use ssh to encrypt the vnc signal
[08:24] <rxd> hmm i have not done it yet maybe it will work
[08:29] <Sadarax> But here is something... I can't even use X11 forwarding. That is not a VNC problem.
[13:07] <MythbuntuGuest85> HI! i have installed mythtv but my subtitles are SO BIG , how do i set is smaller
[13:12] <MythbuntuGuest85> hm
[13:14] <nibbles> is finland considered eastern or western europe (for mythtv channel setup)
[13:14] <directhex> northern!
[13:14] <nibbles> i dont think there's that option...
[13:17] <MythbuntuGuest85> for setting the subs smaller ?
[13:44] <levander_> When I try to view a dvd, in mythfrontend.log I get: "Failed to open DVD device at /dev/dvd".  Do I need to change the device file for my dvd drive in setup?  How do I figure out what the correct device file is?
[13:45] <levander> I didn't have a registered nick when I typed that.  Did yall see it?
[13:45] <levander> When I try to view a dvd, in mythfrontend.log I get: "Failed to open DVD device at /dev/dvd". Do I need to change the device file for my dvd drive in setup? How do I figure out what the correct device file is?
[13:50] <[nrx]> hey guys. I manually removed files from /var/lib/mytthv/recordings/ but now the backend keeps thinking they're there. Any ideas?
[13:50] <[nrx]> i've tried hitting delete on the backend/web front end/ but they keep coming back in the listings even though the files aren't there.
[14:01] <levander> Well, I figured it out.  My dvd drive isn't plugged into its SATA port inside the computer.
[14:14] <MythbuntuGuest14> good morning
[14:15] <MythbuntuGuest14> getting ready to install 8.02alpha and wondered if there is a good howto for setting up firewire capture from a STB
[14:18] <MythbuntuGuest14> i have already verified that its working with plugreport and firewire_tester but could not get it working reliably with 0.20.2
[14:18] <MythbuntuGuest14> TIA
[18:43] <alexvd_> anyone successfully doing sleep/hibernate on a slavebackend/ frontend with the happaugge silver remote.  What script are you using and where are you placing it?
[19:21] <Lossif> superm1: Last night I was having issues with my mythvideo not playing sound while mythtv was... well I did everything you said, and then went ahead and un-muted everything in alsamixer and IT NOW WORKS!!!
[19:21] <Lossif> thanks alot man!
[19:22] <superm1> Lossif, no prob
[19:22] <superm1> do me a favor and make a wiki entry about it?
[19:22] <superm1> on help.ubuntu.com?
[19:23] <superm1> so that way have a link to point people at in the future if this comes up
[19:23] <superm1> well not if, when
[19:23] <Aquahallic> anyone here running SVN?
[19:30] <Aquahallic> is there some how-to docs on setting up the newest builds to get all the newer features with mythbuntu??
[19:31] <superm1> switch to hardy
[19:31] <superm1> newer builds and newer features are there
[19:32] <Aquahallic> from gutsy?
[19:32] <superm1> yeah if you want the newer features of mythbuntu you need to do that
[19:33] <superm1> if you want just newer trunk mythtv
[19:33] <superm1> there is a weeklybuilds repo
[19:33] <Aquahallic> well... I remember I used to use knoppmyth and it had stuff like mythburn and all that
[19:33] <superm1> mythburn is what mytharchive used to be
[19:33] <superm1> mytharchive replaces that
[19:34] <Aquahallic> but with mythburn there was a web interface
[19:34] <superm1> yeah that never got ported over upstream
[19:34] <Aquahallic> ahh
[19:35] <superm1> i expect that when 0.21 comes out, there is a fair share of stuff that just "isn't" going to work in knoppmyth
[19:35] <superm1> unless they update their patches
[19:35] <Aquahallic> so if I'm running mythbuntu 7.10 are there some docs on how to get the newest features?? (weekly builds) I guess you call it??
[19:35] <superm1> yeah its on the website
[19:35] <superm1> mythbuntu.org
[19:35] <superm1> weekly builds
[19:36] <superm1> that gets you newer mythtv builds, if you want newer mythbuntu features (testing features), you'll just need to upgrade to hardy to do that
[19:36] <Aquahallic> so with the standard install of 7.10 I'm using the trunk builds of mythtv??
[19:36] <superm1> no
[19:36] <superm1> you're using -fixes
[19:36] <superm1> you can activate trunk from how its described on the website
[19:37]  * Aquahallic still doesn't understand all these different builds and naming conventions....:|
[19:37] <superm1> well -fixes is stable
[19:37] <superm1> -trunk is development
[19:37] <superm1> so if you have stability issues with the existing builds, you can turn on those -fixes ones
[19:37] <superm1> if you want to test the newer mythtv features, you can turn on -trunk
[19:37] <superm1> if you want to test newer mythbuntu features, you can switch to hardy
[19:38] <Aquahallic> and there's a readme on mythbuntu.org for switching to Hardy and/or -trunk?
[19:38] <superm1> switching to -trunk is just a matter of adding the repo, switching to hardy is the standard ubuntu procedure
[19:38] <Aquahallic> actually... let me ask this
[19:39] <Aquahallic> is there somewhere I can go and read/compare what's different.. what ya get on the different builds??
[19:39] <superm1> yeah
[19:39] <Aquahallic> gotta link?
[19:39] <superm1> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Release_Notes_-_0.21
[19:40] <Aquahallic> kewl...:)
[19:40] <Aquahallic> does hardy have sipie?
[19:40] <superm1> i dont know what that is
[19:40] <Aquahallic> sirius radio plugin
[19:40] <superm1> for myth?
[19:40] <Aquahallic> yeah
[19:41] <superm1> unofficial plugin i take it?
[19:41] <Aquahallic> there's a sirius and XMRadio plugin
[19:41] <Aquahallic> I had it on knopp
[19:41] <superm1> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sipie
[19:41] <superm1> its not a plugin for myth
[19:41] <superm1> its just a pyGTK app
[19:41] <Aquahallic> ahh
[19:41] <Aquahallic> gotcha'
[19:42] <Aquahallic> they just built thier theme to have the buttons on mythtv then I guess
[19:44] <Aquahallic> hmmm
[19:44] <Aquahallic> I seem to remember one build I did a LONGTIME ago I had callerid
[19:44] <Aquahallic> maybe it wasn't an actual mythtv plugin.. just an app that ran
[19:47] <Aquahallic> superm1: is the 8.04 Alpha 2 the Hardy build?
[19:47] <superm1> yeah
[19:47] <Aquahallic> you running?
[19:47] <superm1> yeah
[19:47] <superm1> well i'm running later than that
[19:47] <superm1> but yeah
[19:47] <Aquahallic> you do a clean install or an upgrade from 7.10?
[19:48] <superm1> i upgraded
[19:48] <Aquahallic> hit any snags?
[19:48] <superm1> well i've resolved the snags that i discovered already
[19:48] <superm1> so people shouldnt hit them
[19:48] <Aquahallic> k
[19:48] <superm1> um well there is one still
[19:48] <superm1> vnc doesn't work properly
[19:48] <Aquahallic> ahh
[19:49] <Aquahallic> no biggie
[19:49] <Aquahallic> let me ask ya this
[19:49] <Aquahallic> I have a laptop that I'm running ubuntu gutsy on... compiz all that
[19:50] <Aquahallic> if I go and upgrade my backend server... my frontend in the family room... then I'll also have to upgrade my gutsy on this laptop to get the newest builds too??
[19:50] <superm1> you have to upgrade everything
[19:50] <Aquahallic> it's not really a mythbuntu box
[19:51] <tgm4883_laptop> superm1, would it be compatible if he were running trunk on the gutsy?
[19:51] <Aquahallic> it's an ubuntu installation and I pulled mythfrontend and plugins down from synaptic
[19:51] <superm1> tgm4883, exactly he needs to put the weekly builds everywhere then
[19:51] <superm1> so if you upgrade any single box, you need the same version on the others
[19:52] <tgm4883_laptop> ok.  .21 and ..20 are not compatible then
[19:52] <Aquahallic> and the weekly builds are the same as what's on the 8.04?
[19:52] <superm1> not at all
[19:52] <superm1> tgm4883, ^
[19:52] <superm1> Aquahallic, they are within about a week of each other right now
[19:52] <Aquahallic> so... would that be something the repos adhere to?
[19:52] <Aquahallic> say.....
[19:53] <Aquahallic> I go with weekly builds on the laptop.. and upgrade the other 2 with 8.04 mythbuntu
[19:53] <Aquahallic> will they stay with the same versions so they're compatible?
[19:53] <superm1> they should
[19:54] <Aquahallic> k
[19:54] <superm1> there shouldnt be any protocol changes between now and release
[19:54] <tgm4883_laptop> as long as its trunk weekly
[19:54] <Aquahallic> hmmm
[19:54] <Aquahallic> decisions decisions decisions
[19:54] <Aquahallic> :P
[19:55] <Aquahallic> if I knew my guide while viewing livetv would quit hanging I'd jump all over it
[19:55] <Aquahallic> LOL
[19:55] <directhex> superm1, there'd better not be, or you look pretty silly for packaging a svn release :p
[19:56] <superm1> directhex, well of course we'd have to increment the builds imm if that happened
[19:56] <superm1> but they are at FF upstream
[19:56] <superm1> so it should be stable
[20:01] <Aquahallic> so are there ALOT more features with 8.04?
[20:04] <Aquahallic> As we announced back when this project was started, we were planning to provide weekly builds of the MythTV release-0-20-fixes branch.
[20:04] <Aquahallic> ^^^ I thought it was .21
[20:07] <superm1> scroll down
[20:07] <superm1> you'll see the trunk stuff
[20:07] <Aquahallic> found it
[20:07] <Aquahallic> :)
[20:08] <Aquahallic> let me see if I understand this right
[20:09] <Aquahallic> right now... with standard 7.10 mythbuntu I'm using .20
[20:09] <superm1> yeah
[20:09] <superm1> 0.20.2
[20:09] <Aquahallic> if I enable the weekly trunk builds I'll be using .21
[20:09] <Aquahallic> which is a pre-release
[20:09] <superm1> well 0.21 isn't out, but a pre-release of it
[20:09] <Aquahallic> ok... so...
[20:10] <Aquahallic> if I stick it out.. and wait for the .21 release....
[20:10] <Aquahallic> and stay on gutsy... and .21 release comes out
[20:11] <Aquahallic> will there be a package update in gutsy?
[20:11] <Aquahallic> without enabling the weekly?
[20:11] <Aquahallic> weekly trunk
[20:12] <Aquahallic> I guess what I'm asking here is.... will there be a .21 package for gutsy or will I have to either enable weekly trunk or upgrade to hardy?
[20:13] <superm1> there will be some way or another for gutsy
[20:13] <superm1> not sure how yet
[20:13] <Aquahallic> I'm just a little leary about upgrading... I have about 11 machines in my house... and I have EVERYTHING playing nicely on gutsy
[20:13] <superm1> i really say dont do it then
[20:14] <superm1> there are chances for breakage, and that's a lot to sort out
[20:14] <Aquahallic> yup
[20:14] <superm1> if it was 2 maybe 3 machines, then i'd say go for it
[20:14] <superm1> but 11?
[20:14] <Aquahallic> that's where my head's at
[20:14] <superm1> na
[20:14] <Aquahallic> well... only 2 mythbuntu machines and my one laptop here that has gutsy on it with a mythfrontend
[20:14] <Aquahallic> so I guess none of the others would really care
[20:15] <Aquahallic> I have a few extra drives... maybe I'll get ambitious and just image out what I have then play around
[20:15] <Aquahallic> so I can ALWAYS revert back
[20:16] <Aquahallic> what's a good way to full backup my backend?
[20:16] <Aquahallic> I've read something about rsync??
[20:17] <superm1> can't really comment much there sorry
[20:17] <Aquahallic> yeah.. that might be more a question for #ubuntu
[20:18] <Aquahallic> man.. this trunk/release/branch mess is SOOO confusing
[20:18] <Aquahallic> LOL
[20:18] <Aquahallic> and I can't really find any "definitive" guide on the differences...:/
[20:19] <superm1> you sound more like the kind of person that should be on -fixes then :)
[20:19] <Aquahallic> reminds me of right triangle trig back in high school.... ALL GREEK until it finally clicks
[20:19] <Aquahallic> then it's like second nature
[20:19] <Aquahallic> yeah.. but I'm a daring SOB
[20:19] <Aquahallic> LOL
[20:20] <superm1> you've heard the expression, if it ain't broke dont fix it though right?
[20:20] <Aquahallic> no no.. I'm an engineer though... "If it ain't broke... fix it BETTER"
[20:20] <Aquahallic> LOL
[20:21] <Aquahallic> it is running well.... only prob I have is that freaking guide that locks up during livetv on my frontend upstairs
[20:21] <Aquahallic> don't do it on my laptop here...
[20:22] <Aquahallic> but.. this is an ATI Radeon with the free drivers.. .and upstairs is an Nvidia with restricted that locks up
[20:22] <Aquahallic> and I mean locks up HARD!
[20:22] <Aquahallic> I've read something about using an nvidia kernel
[20:23] <superm1> yeah i've seen similar problems on nvidia sometimes
[20:23] <superm1> but dont use the guide ever so it doesnt matter much
[20:23] <Aquahallic> yeah.. I remember you told me to use Qt instead of OpenGL
[20:23] <Aquahallic> and that didn't resolve it either....:/
[20:24] <Aquahallic> well.. she don't use the guide up there now either.. .I "Fixed" it... I took the guide button off the remote with lirc...LOL
[20:24] <Aquahallic> I make her scroll the OSD
[20:24] <Aquahallic> :)
[20:25] <superm1> haha
[20:25] <Aquahallic> but man... I DO like some of those newer themes with .21
[20:25] <Aquahallic> SHEEZ... you KNOW I'm convincing myself to do this.. right?
[20:25] <Aquahallic> HAHAHA
[20:26] <Aquahallic> ACTUALLY
[20:26] <Aquahallic> ya know
[20:26] <superm1> haha, just wait a month or so
[20:26] <Aquahallic> I have 2 extra computers
[20:26] <Aquahallic> :)
[20:26] <superm1> put aside a weekend
[20:26] <superm1> and go for it then
[20:26] <Aquahallic> maybe I'll leave the existing intact
[20:26] <Aquahallic> spin up another isolated vlan
[20:26] <Aquahallic> and setup hardy on it
[20:27] <Aquahallic> how's my backend going to act with no capture card in it??
[20:27] <Aquahallic> just to get it up and running
[20:27] <superm1> boring
[20:27] <Aquahallic> JUST to get the install setup
[20:27] <Aquahallic> and h/w working properly
[20:27] <Aquahallic> then do a graceful switch to newer and put my capture card in
[20:28] <superm1> the thing is that your database won't translate over right
[20:28] <Aquahallic> I know it'll be boring but it should let me get all the other h/w in
[20:28] <Aquahallic> well
[20:28] <Aquahallic> hmm
[20:28] <Aquahallic> is there a prep-tool or something?
[20:29] <Aquahallic> or is it expecting to see a full install to be upgraded?
[20:29] <Aquahallic> like say....
[20:29] <Aquahallic> I pull my db off the existing and make a copy
[20:29] <Aquahallic> then prep that one for the new install???
[20:31] <Aquahallic> or.. can I do a new install with virgin DB then maybe port over all my settings from the existing?
[20:31] <Aquahallic> export/import deal?
[20:33] <superm1> its expecting a full install to be upgraded
[20:33] <superm1> you can back up your db
[20:33] <superm1> and then try it
[20:33] <superm1> and revert the db
[20:33] <superm1> but thats about it
[20:33] <Aquahallic> heh.. it really is all or none huh?
[20:33] <Aquahallic> lol
[20:34] <Aquahallic> eeek... actually... that's gonna be messed up if I do... all my IP's will be whacked and machine names in the DB
[20:35] <superm1> yeah
[20:36] <Aquahallic> unless... I set it as a separate vlan.. and use the same IPs on the boxes as I have on my active vlan...:)
[20:36] <Aquahallic> same machine names and all
[20:37] <Aquahallic> is it just the tables that are different in the new version?
[20:37] <Aquahallic> or is the comm. protocol different??
[20:38] <superm1> different protocol
[20:38] <Aquahallic> does it play nicer as far as CPU and bandwidth?
[20:38] <Aquahallic> and disk writes?
[20:39] <superm1> well seems pretty much the same to me
[20:39] <superm1> but i dont know for sure
[20:39] <Aquahallic> k
[20:41] <Aquahallic> hmmm.... .21 has the streaming video from mythweb doesn't it??
[20:41]  * Aquahallic misses that from knoppmyth
[20:48] <Aquahallic> that flash streaming
[20:48] <superm1> yeah its in there
[20:49] <superm1> but you need ffmpeg from medibuntu to use it
[20:52] <Aquahallic> you're talking about the encoder for the backend right??
[20:58] <superm1> yes
[20:59] <Aquahallic> when I look in synaptic package manager it shows it as installed
[20:59] <Aquahallic> is there a different build I need to use?
[20:59] <superm1> just activate medibuntu
[20:59] <superm1> and you'll get it
[21:35] <Tr1p> hi
[21:37] <Tr1p> im using mythtv in a network , so my movies are on a other pc (debian and samba) i mount it in fstab it works perfect BUT when i want to play a movie it wont start , and when i try to play that movie with VLC it starts perfect ...
[21:50] <Tr1p> hmm nobody
[21:57] <darthanubis> The following packages have been kept back:  libmyth-perl
[22:01] <Tr1p> oke
[22:17] <degreseven> I am not able to run the livecd to install mythbuntu. I get through the loading screen just fine & then I just see bright bands of color. obviously a video problem. I've tried all the diff resolutions & display options, but no luck. I'm using a geforce 4, also tried a 6800GT with same problem. Is there another way I cna get this installed, or something else I can try?
[22:39] <superm1> darthanubis, you need libnet-upnp-perl
[22:39] <superm1> darthanubis, https://edge.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/+archive?field.name_filter=upnp&field.status_filter=published
[22:43] <superm1> degreseven, ctrl alt - or ctrl alt +
[22:43] <superm1> once in the live env
[22:43] <degreseven> oh, what does that do?
[22:44] <degreseven> i'll go try it
[22:45] <adaptr> increase or decrease the resolution of the X server
[22:45] <adaptr> if you have multiple resolutions set in xorg.conf -  if not, it does nothing
[22:45] <superm1> well in newer xorg it doesnt go off resolutions listed
[22:46] <adaptr> it doesn't ?
[22:46] <adaptr> which "newer"
[22:46] <adaptr> I run 7.1 AFAIK, and it sure obeys my config file :)
[22:46] <superm1> newer xorg doesnt necessarily have them listed
[22:46] <superm1> is what i'm trying to say
[22:46] <adaptr> it bluddy well should, too
[22:47] <superm1> it does if they are listed
[22:47] <superm1> try booting up a fresh hardy disk, and look at your xorg.conf
[22:47] <superm1> its a little bit "naked"
[22:47] <superm1> you'll see
[22:51] <adaptr> I try to avoid hardies
[22:52] <degreseven> ok, that doesn't do anything. looks like there are no resolutions defined in xorg.conf
[22:52] <degreseven> should I just add some?
[22:53] <adaptr> you can, sure - does it misbehave ?
[22:54] <degreseven> how do you mean?
[22:55] <adaptr> well, what resolution have you got now ?
[22:55] <degreseven> oh, sorry thought you saw my original question. I tried all the resolutions available under the boot menu, they all give me crazy colored stripes flashing across the screen in X
[22:56] <adaptr> on a monitor or a TV ?
[22:56] <degreseven> a tv through svideo, but i tried hooking up a dvi monitor & the same thing happened
[22:57] <adaptr> that sounds dangerously like a too high refresh rate if its an analog monitor, or a busted video card if it's not
[22:57] <adaptr> you can easily drive a TV too high with a PC
[22:57] <adaptr> but DVI ? that sounds... bad
[22:57] <degreseven> digital monitor & i tried another graphics card that I know works
[22:58] <degreseven> i pulled the graphics card out of the pc i'm on right now to test, and exact same thing happened
[22:59] <degreseven> also i have gentoo running just fine on a different disk on the same system right now
[22:59] <degreseven> i know the hardware works
[22:59] <degreseven> i'm sick of gentoo's crap though =P
[22:59] <adaptr> uck!
[22:59] <adaptr> you should have come clean right away, unclean ricer :)
[23:00] <degreseven> =) I used gentoo before ubuntu was around, I've been converting all my pcs over the last year or 2
[23:01] <degreseven> anyways, back on topic... what do i do?
[23:05] <degreseven> i guess I can just install ubuntu with the alternate cd & do all the myth stuff manually
[23:06] <adaptr> ...or you can download mythbuntu and pop it in and be up and running in about half an hour
[23:06] <adaptr> that's what I did
[23:06] <degreseven> but.... the problem we've been discussing... lol
[23:06] <adaptr> I don't know, you never told *me*
[23:07] <degreseven> I am not able to run the livecd to install mythbuntu. I get through the loading screen just fine & then I just see bright bands of color. obviously a video problem. I've tried all the diff resolutions & display options, but no luck. I'm using a geforce 4, also tried a 6800GT with same problem.