[02:15] <fredsua> Cannot move "/home/fredd...top/cdroot" to the trash because you do not have permissions to change it or its parent folder.
[02:15] <fredsua> does anyone know how to get around this?  I am the administrator
[02:17] <ctop> sudo
[02:17] <ctop> or chown
[03:43] <Devo> hello
[03:43] <Devo> anyone around?
[03:43] <ctop> no
[03:44] <ctop> :-)
[03:44] <Devo> hha
[03:44] <Devo> i need to change the display options for my login screen
[03:45] <Devo> xfce is fine, i set it in the control panel, but the login screen is all squished
[03:45] <Devo> and i can't seem to make Xorg do it
[03:58] <mjw-> Devo but once you're logged in it's fine?
[04:06] <Devo> yes
[04:06] <Devo> it switches
[04:06] <Devo> the problem being, when it switches, sometimes my monitor just stays black
[04:18] <cookiemonster077> i need help getting wireless usb dongle to work
[05:15] <runemaste> Would xubuntu run well on a P2 500-600 mhz with 128 - 256 mb ram?
[05:16] <zoredache> it would run ok... but that doesn't mean resource-intensive application would run well
[05:17] <runemaste> im just thinking simple games, word processing... so there wouldnt be too much gui lag?
[05:18] <zoredache> it seems to me, that it would be easier to try it and find out if it is acceptable to you versus me trying to speculate...
[05:19] <runemaste> fair enough
[05:19] <zoredache> I suspect things will run ok
[05:20] <runemaste> now i need to see if i can seperate the computer from my sister... im wondering if its worth installing linux... its running (God help me) M$ at the moment and takes about ~2-3 minutes to boot and a whole minute to log in
[05:47] <Mar1> Hello?
[05:47] <mjw-> *cough*
[05:47] <Mar1> Anyone able to help me out please?
[05:47] <zoredache> Mar1: ask your question
[05:49] <Mar1> (deep breath) I have an old Trident 3d AGP card running on a Dell monitor.  I have to run under safe graphics mode to see anything, but can then install and run as normal.  However...
[05:49] <Mar1> I cannot change any graphics options, or the screen goes black and crap.  Even if I test the current settings, the screen goes all garbled.
[05:49] <Mar1> I basically have to stick with 1024 x 768 and the vesa drivers.
[05:50] <mjw-> I didn't even know trident made AGP cards
[05:50] <Mar1> Trident Blade 8MB.
[05:50] <mjw-> what does    lspci | grep -i vga return
[05:52] <Mar1> No such file or directory.  --> I am currently using a live cd as I borked my install messing round with resolutions and can't see anything anymore.
[05:52] <mjw-> lspci should be on the live cd
[05:52] <mjw-> it's a lowercase L in front
[05:53] <Mar1> Yep.  If I don't type return, I get:
[05:53] <Mar1> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems Blade 3D PCI/AGP (rev 3a)
[05:53] <mjw-> well, in theory, the 'trident' driver supports the card i think
[05:54] <Mar1> Yeah, but again, changing resolutions or drivers makes things go bad when I click test.
[05:54] <mjw-> so you'd have to mount your installation, navigate to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, edit it and find the line that says Driver "vesa"   to Driver "trident"
[05:54] <mjw-> that should have said, and change it to...
[05:55] <Mar1> I have to leave everything as is, again, even as is test doesn't work, yet the display works.
[05:55] <Mar1> When I choose that in the GUI and click test it doesn't work.  Surely that's bad?
[05:56] <mjw-> well it should be the driver that works
[05:56] <mjw-> keep in mind 8MB of video ram is pretty paltry
[05:56] <mjw-> so a lot of modes won't work
[05:56] <Mar1> Yeah, I'm definitely leaning on getting a Radeon 9600, I just hope that works.
[05:58] <Mar1> Could you please tell me the command to mount my install?
[05:58] <mjw-> if you want to get something cheap that will work, an NVidia Geforce2MX or Geforce2MX400 or whatever might be best
[05:58] <mjw-> marl it should appear on the left pane in nautilus
[05:58] <Mar1> I want to power a 2707wfp :p
[05:59] <mjw-> marl: then get a Geforce 7300GS or something
[05:59] <Mar1> That's about 2x the price of a 9600 here in New Zealand.
[05:59] <mjw-> ouch
[06:00] <mjw-> i've not heard great things about the 9600 honestly. An 8xxx series might be a safer bet
[06:00] <mjw-> if you can still find those
[06:01] <mjw-> perhaps an X300?
[06:02] <Mar1> Looking at my xorg.conf which won't display things now, and my old one which worked, my new one references the Trident driver, and my old one uses the vesa driver.  I think I will just give up with this card.
[06:03] <Mar1> I take it resolution and driver changing works okay for everyone else?
[06:03] <mjw-> marl: i tweaked my xorg.conf...of course, i'm on a single resolution LCD basically
[06:05] <Mar1> Can I just rename my old xorg.conf to replace my new not working one?  Or do I need to rebuild something/wear a special hat?
[06:05] <mjw-> marl: no special hats required
[06:09] <Mar1> Can't use the gui to rename it.  It could be a permission thing.  I had the install with a particular username and password.  The Live CD wouldn't know it.  Suggestions?
[06:09] <ron_o> how can I tell which version of xubuntu I have?
[06:10] <mjw-> lsb_release -a
[06:11] <ron_o> I have 7.04 feisty but have 275 updates still. is it safe to do so?
[06:12] <ron_o> for some reason firefox is crashing on me, and perhaps that can solve it.
[06:12] <ron_o> it's not like I need to update.
[06:12] <mjw-> um, it should be safe to update. you've uh just gotten a little behind
[06:13] <mjw-> Mar1 you need to do    sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:13] <ron_o> thanks.
[06:13] <ron_o> it is a bit old.
[06:13] <ron_o> my burn that is.
[06:13] <mjw-> Mar1 and btw there's no way that blade card could power a 2707wfp
[06:14] <Mar1> sudo, of course.  Cheers.
[06:14] <mjw-> it simply doesn't have enough video memory
[06:14] <Mar1> I know, but it is supposed to at least do 1600 x 1200, which is far better than the 1024 x 768 of now.
[06:17] <mjw-> 1920 x 1200 x 24bpp = 6.6MB at a minimum, plus X tends to double buffer nowadays and whatnot so 8MB ain't gonna cut it ;)
[06:18] <Mar1> If my bios has AGP aperture selectable of either 32MB or 64MB, is there any point in a card that has more than 64MB RAM?
[06:19] <mjw-> unless you're going to be doing 3D stuff, I don't think it matters. I'm not all up on AGP apertures and other such settings though
[06:21] <mjw-> certainly > 64MB isn't going to help at all if you're just interested in 2D
[06:26] <Mar1> Yeah, I also hope my 250W power supply could handle a 9600.  Think so, though.
[06:27] <mjw-> as long as you don't get the super-duper-overclocked version of it, probably
[06:28] <Mar1> But that one sounds really good.
[06:28] <mjw-> specifically i've had two people tell me the 9600XT is all kinds of trouble with both the open source and the binary driver
[06:29] <Mar1> What about GeForce 6200?
[06:30] <mjw-> I don't know
[06:30] <mjw-> just don't get a matrox unless you like pain...not that anyone really sells them anymore ;)
[06:31] <mjw-> a matrox G550 DVI -might- be ok but man that card is long in the tooth even
[09:55] <LeAstrale> hi ppl
[09:55] <LeAstrale> any1 in here knows why Xubuntu doesn't remember my xorg settings =
[09:57] <TheSheep> LeAstrale: can you proide more details?
[09:57] <TheSheep> provide
[09:58] <LeAstrale> yes i can... at every boot i install the Nvidia 169.09 from fresh to get a good screen resolution again
[09:59] <LeAstrale> after a reboot xubuntu seems to forget that i've installed drivers at all and wants to start up in low graphics mode
[09:59] <TheSheep> LeAstrale: how do you install it?
[10:02] <LeAstrale> from cli using sh *nvidia driver filename*
[10:02] <LeAstrale> while root
[10:02] <TheSheep> why didn't you install the drivers from the ubuntu repositories?
[10:03] <LeAstrale> because they're no good for my 8800gt.. only the official nvidia drivers can make it work
[10:03] <TheSheep> the drivers in the restricted repositories are the official ones
[10:04] <TheSheep> just use the restricted drivers manager and it will install the right drivers
[10:05] <LeAstrale> restricted drivers management cant seem to find the card
[10:05] <TheSheep> :(
[10:05] <TheSheep> have you reported a bug?
[10:06] <LeAstrale> no i havent.
[10:06] <LeAstrale> i think ill check the forums again
[10:06] <TheSheep> I can't think of a solution for you now, but if you report it, I'm sure it will be fixed in the new version
[10:07] <TheSheep> and there might be a workaround right away
[10:07] <TheSheep> !bugs
[10:07] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[10:08] <LeAstrale> ty TheSheep
[10:09] <TheSheep> LeAstrale: btw, the reason why it disappears every time you reboot is because ubuntu has the directory in which the drivers are kept mounted in a ramdisk
[10:10] <TheSheep> you can see it if you type 'mount'
[10:11] <LeAstrale> what to mount ? :S
[10:11] <deadnecro> just a quick question from  a linux newbie if i may
[10:11] <LeAstrale> ahhh.. tried it :)
[10:13] <LeAstrale> http://xubuntu.pastebin.com/d2756adf3
[10:13] <LeAstrale> here is what the terminakl replied on mount
[10:13] <deadnecro> I have a 2G SD card that I'm trying to format have tried using gnome partition manager and it won't format it also have tried undder windows saying its write protected was wondering if I could force a format with the command line or something
[10:14] <LeAstrale> deadnecro: have you checked the write protection tab on the card it self? if its enabled you won't be able to do anything
[10:15] <deadnecro> well i've tried it in both directions and neither work so I dunno whats going on
[10:15] <deadnecro> I can still read and write to it just cant format it
[10:16] <LeAstrale> just mark all folders and delete them ?
[10:16] <LeAstrale> unless you for some reason need a format
[10:16] <LeAstrale> to a different Fileformat
[10:16] <LeAstrale> deadnecro: camera's and so on can usually format the cards too
[10:17] <LeAstrale> brb
[10:17] <deadnecro> linux won't let me do anything with can only read and write
[10:18] <deadnecro> hasn't been in a camera or anything pretty sure its only been in my laptop and my girlfriensds laptop
[10:18] <deadnecro> can't delete the files as I now don't have any access to a windows machine
[10:22] <LeAstrale> hmm... if you cant alter the files on it then you only have read access AFAIK
[10:22] <LeAstrale> have you tried chmod to alter the permissions ?
[10:25] <deadnecro> ok tried it in my internal card reader even though it was saying it couldn't mount it and formatted it fine
[10:28] <deadnecro> ok so I can format in my internal card reader but cant mount it
[10:28] <deadnecro> if its in my other card reader I cant edit anything
[10:28] <deadnecro> any ideas
[10:28] <LeAstrale> bbl
[11:20] <LeAstrale> back
[11:42] <qwerkus> hello all
[11:42] <qwerkus> I own a site hosted on french isp free.fr
[11:43] <qwerkus> it s free of charge, but isp only allow connection from framce
[11:43] <qwerkus> ... whil i am in germany
[11:43] <qwerkus> *France
[11:44] <qwerkus> Is it possible to have a server running at home in France
[11:44] <qwerkus> and set up some tunnel between that server and my laptop in germany
[11:44] <qwerkus> so i can connect to my isp via a french IP ?
[11:48] <LeAstrale> it should be possible using your home server as proxy
[11:48] <LeAstrale> but thats all i know
[11:49] <runemaste> ... use ssh tunneling
[11:49] <runemaste> ssh server in france ssh client (ie putty for windows... not sure for linux) with tunneling set up
[11:50] <qwerkus> you mean via openssh ?
[11:53] <runemaste> ja
[12:02] <qwerkus> ok
[12:02] <qwerkus> thanks alot
[16:04] <nikolam> hi
[16:05] <nikolam> is there alternative way to make programs install, to sudo make install?
[16:06] <nikolam> I only have *.tar.gz source of program and I would like to make *.deb instead of making it install with ./configure , make , sudo make install
[16:09] <Mannequin> hi. can someone suggest me a burning software for Xubuntu, that let me choose the speed I want to burn an .iso?
[16:09] <TheSheep> Mannequin: brasero
[16:16] <slackl> can anyone help with cd dvd burning issues
[16:16] <Mannequin> TheSheep: I have brasero installed by default, but I didn't find any option to set the speed at which the iso will be burned
[16:17] <slackl> so it seems there are quite a few issues with burning dc etc in ubuntu
[16:30] <LeAstrale> how to change the pages to horizontal in OO Writer?
[16:54] <Darkmystere> Hello can someone help me i cant get my cubecap pictures nor my skydome pictures to take affect
[17:57] <LeAstrale> himppl
[17:57] <LeAstrale> hi ppl i meant :)
[18:10] <slow-motion> hi
[18:11] <LeAstrale> hi slow-motion
[18:12] <slow-motion> hi LeAstrale
[18:33] <danopia> hi
[18:47] <lordzos> I'm having problems SSH logging-in to my remote xubuntu box ... I'm connecting from a Gentoo box to the xubuntu
[18:47] <lordzos> I have a key-pair setup, that was working perfectly with my remote box
[18:48] <lordzos> now, however, I needed to -D a privileged port, so I enabled root login thru SSH temporarily
[18:48] <lordzos> I tried logging in a few times, without success
[18:48] <lordzos> then, dumbly, I logged out of my current SSH session in another window
[18:48] <lordzos> now it's not letting me get back in
[18:48] <lordzos> any ideas?
[18:49] <lordzos> My original keypair was working correctly
[18:49] <lordzos> I'd also set it up to temporarily accept password and challenge response authentication
[18:49] <lordzos> it connects - and prompts me for my password
[18:50] <lordzos> it then doesn't accept this 3 times
[18:50] <lordzos> then it switches from interactive to password mode
[18:50] <lordzos> and asks me again 3 more times
[18:50] <lordzos> it doesn't accept my proper password however
[18:50] <lordzos> and it's not picking up on the keypair at all
[18:51] <lordzos> I've been watching the SSH session using the -vvv param
[18:51] <lordzos> this made me think that it's maybe blocking my IP server-side
[18:51] <lordzos> is this a permanent block, assuming default config?
[18:51] <lordzos> or is it only for an hour or so?
[18:52] <lordzos> I've tried relogging in, after more than 30 minutes ... it's still not allowing me access
[18:52] <lordzos> thanks in advance for your help here ...
[19:17] <whabo> i need help please .. how to you scan for existing wireless networks around you .. instead of typing everything manually??? thank you
[19:20] <whabo>  i need help please .. how to you scan for existing wireless networks around you .. instead of typing everything manually??? thank you ( in xubuntu) because i cant seem to find my network) can anyone shed some light?
[19:23] <whabo> !wireless
[19:23] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[19:38] <whabo> help anyone pleaaseeee
[19:38] <whabo> HELPPP
[19:38] <whabo> is there anyone here???
[19:42] <nikolam> zes
[19:42] <nikolam> yes
[19:42] <nikolam> But i dont have a clue about wireless
[19:42] <nikolam> anyway, i have xfce plugin for xfce panel, called wavelan
[19:43] <nikolam> Wavelan should be something zou are looking for
[19:57] <whabo> oh thx
[20:04] <nikolam> whabo, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_tools_for_Linux
[20:24] <angelus_> hi  all
[20:24] <angelus_> i'm using xubuntu and i rebuilt the alsa drivers to get sound working on my machine
[20:25] <angelus_> now although i can watch dvds and listen to music on my machine, there is no system sound notifications
[20:25] <angelus_> anyone have any idae where i should start looking?
[21:30] <_charlie> I am back
[21:32] <sigve> Hi, does anyone here have any experience with rdesktop?
[21:32] <sigve> more specifically: getting sound to transfer from the server to the client
[21:35] <siggjen> sound workd in rdesktop
[21:35] <vrkhans> can any one know how i can automaticall mount my external drive
[21:36] <sigve> siggjen: what setup did you use?
[21:36] <siggjen> i jsut use tsclient
[21:37] <sigve> what OS are you running on the server?
[21:38] <siggjen> XP SP2
[21:41] <sigve> I'm running Vista, maybe thats the problem
[21:41] <sigve> I tried tsclient, to no avail
[21:42] <siggjen> the sound mixer is available?
[21:43] <sigve> yeah, it shows up with "rdp transport device" or something instead of the regular audio devices
[21:44] <siggjen> i had some problem with sound mixer being busy because of another program used it
[21:45] <sigve> like?
[21:45] <siggjen> firefox, amarok etc
[21:46] <siggjen> depends if you got hw or sw mixer
[21:46] <sigve> sw
[21:46] <sigve> I'll try to close as many programs as possible and try again
[21:48] <siggjen> my fix was to buy an usb soundcard d:
[21:49] <sigve> crap, that costs money ^^
[21:51] <siggjen> and give nice sound quality
[21:51] <sigve> I might have an old pci-card about
[21:51] <sigve> *checks*
[21:52] <siggjen> sb live or such have hw mixer
[21:58] <sigve> sweet, i just found an sb live in an old pc in the basement :D
[22:36] <speaker219> Does anyone know how to make the fonts in firefox look better in xfce?
[22:37] <speaker219> They look very....bad.
[22:37] <speaker219> It almost seems as if the fonts aren't being smoothed...
[23:18] <_Oz_> Greetings, Xubuntu friends!
[23:19] <_Oz_> I have the tiny font problem in Xubuntu.  The system loads and the font sizes are so ridiculously tiny I can't even read them to open a terminal window.  (The text in the terminal window is tiny too.)  How can I boot so that the GUI doesn't load, and I can edit some conf files so that I can fix this problem?  I have GRUB.  Thanks.
[23:33] <sigve> siggjen:
[23:34] <sigve> I finally got the sb live card working, but sound in rdesktop still doesnt work
[23:34] <sigve> any ideas?
[23:37] <_Oz_> Greetings, Xubuntu friends!
[23:37] <_Oz_> I have the tiny font problem in Xubuntu.  The system loads and the font sizes are so ridiculously tiny I can't even read them to open a terminal window.  (The text in the terminal window is tiny too.)  How can I boot so that the GUI doesn't load, and I can edit some conf files so that I can fix this problem?  I have GRUB.  Thanks.
[23:38] <LeAstrale> hi ppl im back :)
[23:42] <_Oz_> Greetings, Xubuntu friends!
[23:42] <_Oz_> I have the tiny font problem in Xubuntu.  The system loads and the font sizes are so ridiculously tiny I can't even read them to open a terminal window.  (The text in the terminal window is tiny too.)  How can I boot so that the GUI doesn't load, and I can edit some conf files so that I can fix this problem?  I have GRUB.  Thanks.
[23:43] <LeAstrale> _Oz_: just boot into the rescue system from you're Grub menu ?
[23:47] <_Oz_> thanks
[23:47] <LeAstrale> yw _Oz_