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nosrednaekimok.... I need a some info for the compiz settings manager that we are doing.... what plugins should go in for each(there are two) effect level?00:17
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nosrednaekimmaybe I should put that on the mailing list?00:26
nosrednaekimor should I just use the ones from the gnome/ubuntu configurator?00:26
voriannosrednaekim: i would think it should match the ubuntu configuration00:36
vorianI also think it should depend on ccsm00:36
nosrednaekimwhat do you mean "depend"?00:36
vorianutilize00:36
nosrednaekimit should pull in ccsm when you install compiz?00:36
vorianin ubuntu you have to install ccsm00:36
vorianright-o :)00:37
vorianbut that's just me00:37
nosrednaekimI'll ask R1ddell00:38
nosrednaekimI think I will use the ubuntu ones though, they seem to have a pretty good mix.00:39
blizzzekgn801:11
Tonio_crimsun_: I'm going to sleep, but I'll stay connected in case you answer in the meantime :)01:43
Tonio_Riddell: kdesudo kde3/kde4 are fixed, -u option now works everytime, and not randomly as before01:44
crimsun_Tonio_: sorry, not in a position to grab the patch.01:44
Tonio_crimsun_: email prefered so that you can read later ?01:44
crimsun_Tonio_: I will look ASAP and ping you01:44
Tonio_crimsun_: oki, no problem :)01:44
crimsun_err, well, no e-mail, so I'll just tell you in here.01:44
Tonio_Riddell: kde3 version uploaded, kde4 released tomorrow01:45
Tonio_crimsun_: okay :)01:45
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ryanakcabashoh: please fix your client04:44
bashohok04:44
ryanakcabashoh: why are you always quitting and rejoining?05:03
bashohsory05:04
bashohIt is not any longer05:04
bashohIt is various channels and ..saying...05:05
blizzzekhi09:04
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Tonio_hi there !10:23
RiddellTonio_!10:24
Riddellhmm, do we really want to use a custom plasma theme?10:24
Tonio_Riddell: for hardy ? I guess no10:25
Tonio_Riddell: for hardy+1, i'd say "of course" ;)10:25
Tonio_Riddell: we probably don't want to provide a high integration/specification level on kde4 atm, right ?10:25
Riddellwell, we don't want to add a load of customisations to kde 4 if we can avoid it10:26
Tonio_Riddell: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KGRUBEditor?content=75442&PHPSESSID=2148199787d06b1ffd9e4fbe06c593ae10:27
Tonio_Riddell: interesting ;) this should be converted to a kcm module, but looks nice !10:27
Tonio_Riddell: sure, but well you talked about a "theme", that's not a big deal on the other hand10:28
Tonio_Riddell: I  agree we should avoid tweaking as much as we did with kde310:28
* Tonio_ prepares kdesudo-kde4 for public release10:29
Tonio_Riddell: talking about customisation, I'm working on the patches you imported from mandriva for xdg directories10:31
Tonio_Riddell: http://toniox.org/tmp/capture78.png10:33
Tonio_Riddell: there's a missing icon for "documents" and also the text should be first char upper imho10:33
Tonio_that's looks a bit "unfinished" atm ;)10:33
Riddell404 - Not Found10:36
Tonio_Riddell: http://toniox.org/temp/capture78.png10:38
Tonio_sorry :)10:38
Riddellwe also need to change k3b, digikam etc to use them10:41
Riddellthose texts are an upstream issue by the way10:43
Tonio_upstream ?10:54
Tonio_which upstream ? those are mandriva patches no ?10:54
Riddellxdg-user-dirs is from freedesktop.org10:54
Tonio_Riddell: I doubt there is an upstream issue on that point, otherwise the folder in ~/ wouldn't be named correctly10:55
Tonio_Riddell: aren't the patches simply not using the good "info" as name ?10:55
RiddellI assume they get the names from xdg-user-dirs10:55
Riddellalthough I don't know why it loses the upper case indeed10:56
Tonio_Riddell: that's what I want to look at10:56
Tonio_Riddell: appart from that the names are perfectly correct, at least in french :)10:56
Tonio_Riddell: about multimedia apps, that's not an easy job since the folders names are localized....11:00
Tonio_Riddell: we can configure the apps within the rc file and that should probably be done in the sources directly...11:00
Tonio_Riddell: do we really want this ?11:00
jpatrickRiddell: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2008-February/003356.html11:01
RiddellTonio_: hmm right.  what a stupid spec it is11:02
Tonio_Riddell: s/we can/we can't/ ;)11:02
Riddelljpatrick: he wants to talk to upstream11:03
Tonio_Riddell: bah, best is to let the users use the folders if they want it11:03
jpatrickRiddell: ok, will tell him11:03
Tonio_Riddell: talking about kdesudo-kde4, there is no messages.sh script atm11:03
Tonio_Riddell: I don't really know how pot extraction works with kde4 so that'll be the purpose of another release, 3.1 probably11:03
RiddellTonio_: you could host kdesudo in KDE's svn, that would solve that problem :)11:04
Tonio_Riddell: hum that's done automagically then ? interesting11:05
Riddellwell it's done by a nightly script11:06
Tonio_Riddell: oki I'll investigate, but I really prefer to stay on bzr since we can manage upload permissions arround launchpad11:08
Tonio_Riddell: also I don't wan't kde's horrible bts to become kdesudo's ;)11:08
Tonio_Riddell: fyi, my "logout freezes X" issue was another ati/fglrx shinny "feature" :'(11:12
Tonio_using radeaonhd fixes.... I can't wait for radeaonhd to provide 2D and 3D acceleration support11:12
Tonio_should happen in a few month now11:12
Tonio_Riddell: I don't know if you seen that, but I commited another system-config-printer-kde with a little fix11:16
Tonio_Riddell: there was some "/home/jr" path to the code, breaking the applet11:16
Riddellperfectly good path that :)11:17
Tonio_Riddell: hehe :)11:19
txwikingerWIll the path be automatically created? ;)11:19
Tonio_Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=kdesudo-kde411:21
Tonio_Riddell: I know you can't wait to revu this one :)11:21
Tonio_apache|mobile: you are invited to revu this one too ;)11:22
apache|mobileTonio_: "Homepage:" should be an entry under "Standards-Version"11:23
apache|mobileTonio_: IMHO you should also indicate in the description that this is the KDE 4 version of kdesudo11:24
jpatrickTonio_: I believe the KDE 4 cdbs has been updated11:24
Tonio_apache|mobile: hum right, that's old packaging in fact, and that changed....11:24
RiddellTonio_: no COPYING.LIB file11:24
Riddellyes, that's an old kde.mk11:25
Tonio_Riddell: do we need one ? there is no more admin/ folder....11:25
Tonio_Riddell: where to get the latest ?11:25
RiddellTonio_: kde4libs11:25
Riddellkcookie.h is LGPL11:26
jpatrickTonio_: or kepas for a smaller package11:26
RiddellTonio_: no COPYING.DOC11:26
jpatrickTonio_: bug #192350 if you need an example for a freeze exception11:27
ubotuLaunchpad bug 192350 in semantik "[Feature Freeze Exception] New upstream release" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19235011:27
jpatricksee comment 711:27
Tonio_jpatrick: thanks11:28
Tonio_Riddell: what is the copying.doc for ?11:28
RiddellTonio_: the documentation licence11:29
Tonio_Riddell: I didn't knew it was a requirement :)11:29
Riddellit's a requirement that the copying licence be included11:30
Tonio_Riddell: hum isn't that the COPYING file ?11:30
Tonio_AHHHHHHHHHHHH oki ;)11:30
Tonio_stupid of me, of course, that's needed11:31
Tonio_we're on sunday, that may explain........ ;)11:31
Tonio_Riddell, apache|mobile: update in revu in a few minutes, I'll ping you11:35
Tonio_Riddell, apache|mobile : http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=kdesudo-kde411:41
Riddellkdesudo-3.0/kdesudo/.deps/11:49
Riddellkdesudo-3.0/kdesudo/.libs/11:49
Tonio_argh, those stupid hidden files.....11:50
Tonio_Riddell: right11:50
RiddellTonio_: debian/copyright should also mention the LGPL11:52
Tonio_Riddell: that also changed ? there was a fight on revu about that ;)11:53
Riddellit's not essential (LGPL can be upgraded to GPL) but it good practice to list all the licences11:53
Riddellwhat happened in the fight on revu?11:54
Riddellhttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUDSPragueSpecs11:56
Tonio_Riddell: it was decided that not all the licences needed to be mentionned as long as the files concerned where comming from other projects (like the kde admin/ folder)11:58
Tonio_Riddell: but now kcookie files are directly in the source, so I guess you are riht11:59
Tonio_right11:59
Tonio_Riddell: I already uploaded on revu with the fix11:59
RiddellI wonder if anyone asked the archive admins11:59
Tonio_Riddell: I did11:59
RiddellI don't remember that :)11:59
Tonio_Riddell: you were saying "I doubt we get any benefit having a stricted NEW policy than debian" ;)12:00
Tonio_stricter12:01
jpatrickRiddell: interesting specs12:02
Riddelljpatrick: interesting good?12:02
jpatrickRiddell: yes12:03
Riddellphew12:06
Tonio_Riddell: I have a few specs to add to, as for example, porting guidance and all pyqt4 devs we did to pykde412:06
Tonio_Riddell: but that's a hudge work I suspect12:06
iRonRiddell: "...How to add policykit use to kcontrol modules?" I'm working on this now ;-)12:10
RiddelliRon: I've seen Frerich Raabe raabe@ kde.org talk about it too, you might want to e-mail him and see what's happening12:13
fftbhi there12:13
Riddellfftb!12:13
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fftbit'll be a little bit OT, but has somebody a .ui file for KMainWindow which I can put in my ~/.designer/templates/ directory?12:14
Riddellnot I12:15
Tonio_Riddell: sorry for bugging you again, but the kdesudo-kde4 should be okay this time :) once approved I'll write the FFe12:16
fftbI try to uic.loadUi("some.ui") with PyKDE4, but somehow my own KMainWindow template is messed up12:17
Riddellfftb: you'd need to show us your code12:19
fftbRiddel: uhh12:19
fftbi am afraid, it's really awkward :/12:20
fftbhmm, i write a new template from scratch and try to keep track of what happens12:23
fftbthx, anyway12:23
RiddellTonio_: advocated12:25
Tonio_Riddell: super thanks12:25
jpatrickTonio_: yes, upload12:25
Tonio_oki12:26
Riddellmornfall: libwibble synced, libept merged (has a gcc 4.3 patch diff, debian bug 455334)12:26
ubotuDebian bug 455334 in libept "FTBFS with GCC 4.3: missing #includes" [Important,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/45533412:26
Tonio_Riddell: can I ping you for FFe ? you're archive admin right ?12:26
mornfallRiddell: Thanks.12:26
RiddellTonio_: I am, dunno how the motu feel about me approving that12:27
RiddellTonio_: however I approve it :)12:27
jpatrick"* Ridell is happy with this, who should know best"12:28
Tonio_well kdesu is broken, so kdesudo is a requirement, in any case12:28
jpatrickRiddell: can I get access in #kubuntu-offtopic?12:31
stdinsometimes it seems like Tm_T is the only -offtopic op12:31
jpatrickdamn12:32
Riddelljpatrick: I don't have op granting powers there, and there's no staffers on duty to give them to me12:38
jpatrickshame, we have a troll in there12:39
Riddelljpatrick: oped12:39
jpatrickRiddell: thanks12:40
Riddelljpatrick: poke nalioth and get him to up my powers there so i can give you proper channel privilages12:40
jpatrickRiddell: will do12:40
Tonio_Riddell: bug 19262212:47
ubotuLaunchpad bug 192622 in kdesudo "[Feature Freeze Exception]New upstream release (kde4 port)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19262212:47
RiddellTonio_: we can probably just put this directly into main since it's from the same codebase as the one alreay in main12:49
RiddellTonio_: so no asking motu for FFe, just upload it and I'll let it through12:50
Tonio_Riddell: you decide on that point :)12:50
Tonio_Riddell: okay ;)12:50
RiddellTonio_: also you can add it to the kubuntu-kde4.hardy seed and update the meta package12:50
Tonio_Riddell: uploaded, I'll change the seeds this afternoon12:53
stdinRiddell: I just -o you in #k, I didn't notice but you've been +o since friday ;)12:53
Riddellstdin: it makes me feel important :)12:54
stdinyou don't need +o to be important to us :)12:55
apacheloggertxwikinger: maybe we should use tags for upstream report tracking?12:55
apacheloggerneeds-upstream-report -> upstream-report12:56
txwikingerwell upstream as a tag?12:56
txwikingerAh ok12:56
txwikingeryes .. I think this is a good idea12:56
* apachelogger goes for it12:56
txwikingerneeds-sync when upstream is fixed?12:56
apacheloggerneeds-upstream-sync12:57
txwikingerWe need to write that down somewhere12:57
stdinapachelogger: I forget, did you apply the kdm-kde4 patch yet?12:57
apacheloggerstdin: nope, ubuntuwire is down :P12:57
* apachelogger should do it with the amarok server, got better uprate anyway12:58
Tonio_I have a little question regarding launchpad12:58
Tonio_how can I had the official tarball in there : https://edge.launchpad.net/kdesudo/+download12:58
Tonio_I can't seem to find the option to upload it12:58
stdinwhich also reminds me, Riddell: http://stdin.me.uk/diffs/kdebase_3.5.8-2ubuntu21.debdiff is the kde3 patch for kdebase to allow choosing between kdm-kde4 and kdm again12:59
apacheloggerTonio_: you will have to link it IIRC13:00
Tonio_apachehow so ?13:00
Tonio_apachelogger: means I can't get the tarball stored on launchpad ?13:00
stdinTonio_: you have to register a series and a release, then add it to that I think13:01
apacheloggerTonio_: yes13:01
apacheloggerjust follow what stdin told you :)13:01
apacheloggerUpload13:01
apachelogger You may upload files up to 60.0 MiB in size.13:01
Riddellstdin: I'll upload that now as part of 3.5.913:07
stdinmakes sense :)13:07
Riddellstdin: want to make a PPA for 3.5.9?13:08
stdinyeah, I'll register a team for it13:09
Tonio_stdin: do you know how to delete a series ?13:11
apacheloggertxwikinger: needs-upstream-report -> upstream -> needs-upstream-sync?13:11
apacheloggerRiddell: what do you think of these tag names for upstream bugs?13:11
txwikingerapachelogger: yes13:11
stdinTonio_: I don't think you can13:12
Riddellapachelogger: I don't know what they mean13:12
apacheloggerRiddell: well, if a bug needs a forward to upstream we tag it needs-upstream-report if it is reported the tag gets changed to upstream and if upstream fixed it but ubuntu version doesn't include it yet, the tag gets changed to need-upstram-sync13:14
Tonio_stdin: :/13:14
apacheloggerTonio_: you could probably file a wish13:14
Riddellapachelogger: probably best discussed with the bug squad13:14
stdinyou'll have to go through an LP admin probably13:14
apacheloggertrue13:14
Tonio_apachelogger: oki, will try ;)13:14
* apachelogger sends txwikinger to discuss with the bug squad13:14
apachelogger:P13:14
txwikingerapachelogger: well you want that in general, or for kde stuff?13:15
apacheloggertxwikinger: just kde, though it might make sense for others as well13:16
apacheloggerI imagine ubuntu also has quite some upstream bugs :)13:16
txwikingerwell, I think we can put it on the wiki-page for the kde project13:16
txwikingerIf we want to extend that to other things I can discuss it with the bug squaddies13:17
apacheloggerok13:17
txwikingerI remember there is a wiki-page that lists tags13:17
txwikingerlet me look for it13:17
* apachelogger notes that LP should have an autoclean feature for tags13:18
apacheloggerthere are like 30000000 of them13:18
apacheloggerand approx 90% are kinda pointless13:18
apacheloggerfail vs. faild vs. failed. vs. fails vs. failure13:18
txwikingeryes that is  an issue of flexibility vs. guidance13:19
txwikingerapachelogger: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Tags13:20
txwikingerI can add a kubuntu section13:20
apacheloggertxwikinger: please :)13:20
txwikingerok13:21
txwikingerapachelogger: How does this look like? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Tags13:26
apacheloggertxwikinger: nice, thanks13:27
txwikingerThat makes searches a lot easier!13:28
apacheloggeroh yeah13:28
apacheloggertxwikinger: I guess we can drop using the kde4 tag then, since it was basically used for that anyway13:28
txwikingerwell.. I tagged all stuff that looked like specifically kde4 bugs13:29
txwikingerI think that still makes sense13:29
txwikingerUntil we get rid of KDE313:29
apacheloggerok13:29
stdinwoo! I just got my first @ubuntu.com spam email :p13:33
jpatrickyou're joking13:33
stdinSubject: enumerators13:34
stdinand it's about viagra or course13:34
jpatrickI get tons of spam from my @kubuntu.org and @... everyday13:35
stdinI meant to my @ubuntu.com, not from an @ubuntu.com13:36
jpatrickyeah, from redirect*13:36
Riddellstdin: 3.5.9 uploading now http://paste.ubuntu.com/4682/13:36
RiddellScottK: if you want to put it into -backports ^^13:36
* stdin get's downloading13:37
Tonio_stdin: thanks for the tip about launchpad, that helped a lot :)13:37
stdinLP is an odd thing to try to figure out, I only know some things through messing about with it when I'm bored ;)13:38
Tonio__I don't know what to think about that bug : https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdesudo/+bug/17243814:09
ubotuLaunchpad bug 172438 in kdesudo "Wish: kdesudo2: A Convenient Hybrid Dialog" [Wishlist,Confirmed]14:09
Tonio__is it a joke ?14:09
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Lurenice, 3.5.9 going into hardy...14:10
Lurehi Tonio_ and others14:10
Tonio_hey Lure !14:10
jpatrick...14:10
RiddellLure: please do try kdepim once it compiles14:11
LureRiddell: sure I will ;-)14:11
jpatrickTonio_: failed to parse bug report14:11
* Riddell watches kosovo14:11
LureRiddell: from balcony? ;-)14:11
Tonio_jpatrick: failed to parse ?14:13
jpatrickTonio_: understnd14:13
Tonio_jpatrick: I don't understand why a "ok" is a real problem for the dialog....... it has never been for any dialog, not gksudo, not kdesu, but here, we are in front of a major bug...... I wonder what to do.....14:14
Tonio_won't fix ?14:14
LureRiddell: do we have FF exception for kde 4.0.x releases? we should somehow get to ScottK's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StandingFeatureFreeze page14:14
Lurewould make life easier for apacheloger and stdin14:15
jpatrickTonio_: if it doesn't affect gksudo, yeah14:16
Lureany firefox user in kde4 around?14:16
Tonio_kwwii: ping ?14:16
NightroseLure: me14:20
RiddellLure: no but we should be able to get one14:21
LureNightrose: does it look ugly in kde4? it seems no nice gtk-qt integration anymore...14:25
LureRiddell: ok, btw - kde4 will move to main in hardy?14:25
NightroseLure: well yes somehow :) - I can get you a screenie if you want14:25
smarterLure: gtk-qt4 engine: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/~ruphy/gtk-qt4-engine/14:26
Luresmarter: cool, need to look into this14:28
RiddellLure: no14:29
Tonio_Riddell: have an idea how does a kpassword get its caption ?14:32
Tonio_Riddell: looks like it inhérits it from the parent process, but what if there isn't any ?14:32
Riddellkpassword?14:32
tseliothi, I would like to use Adept to install packages from an application I'm writing in Python (pyqt4)14:36
Tonio_kpassworddialog, I would like to add a little icon to it14:36
tseliotwould this be the right command?14:36
tseliotkdesu /usr/bin/adept_batch install name_of_the_package14:36
Tonio_Riddell: http://kde-apps.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=72106&file1=72106-1.png&file2=72106-2.png&file3=&name=KdeSudo14:38
Tonio_Riddell: as you can see, kdesudo doesn't have one, and I can't find how to...14:38
Riddelltseliot: yes that's right14:39
tseliotRiddell: thanks14:39
RiddellTonio_: I don't understand what you're asking14:40
Tonio_just find out what I need :)14:42
Tonio_Riddell: I just want an icon on the top left ;)14:42
* ryanakca wonders if he can get a copy of the current ubuntu.com drupal theme15:22
jpatrickyou can15:23
jpatrickerm, it's on wiki.u.c somewhere15:24
ryanakcajpatrick: haha, bzr checkout http://www.ubuntu.com/themes/ubuntu07/    :)15:27
jpatrickryanakca: it's ugly anyway15:27
ryanakca(not that we're supposed to know about that by the looks of it... nothing on the wiki)15:27
ryanakcajpatrick: yeah... but I think its easier to start from scratch based on that than try to work my way back from what I had (massive cleanup) or start completely from scratch15:28
stdinRiddell: did you notice that kdemultimedia-dbg has 2 Depends: lines?16:00
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stdinRiddell: graphviz is now in universe, kdelibs can't have a Build-Depends-Indep on it :/16:49
Riddellstdin: ah, I wondered what the problem was with that16:52
Riddellstdin: do you know why it moved?16:52
stdinnope16:53
stdinI'm not sure why it's not in main tbh, it's maintainer is Ubuntu Core developers16:56
stdinI don't see any of it's build-deps in universe either17:01
* stdin shrugs17:01
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fftbuhm, is here the right place to ask some questions about PyKDE4 und puic4?18:37
fftbor can someone point me to a better location18:38
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Riddellfftb: good as anywhere19:19
fftbRiddel: :) okay19:23
fftbthere is a tool in python-kde5-dev package called pykdeuic419:24
fftbi use it as a replacement for pyuic419:24
fftbbut, when i dont want to compile my .ui files i use ui.loadUi() from PyQt419:25
fftbwhich dont understands pykde... my question: is there a pykde4 equivalent for the loadUi() method in pykde?19:26
fftbanother thing is, even the pykdeuic4 script constructs stuff like "from kmainwindow import kmainwindow" which is wrong19:28
ryanakcaRiddell: do you think Matt / Canonical would mind if I based myself off the ubuntu07 source? (the source/theme for the current ubuntu.com ... quicker than starting from scratch)19:28
ScottKryanakca: My suggestion would be read the license and act accordingly.19:30
fftbi am kinda stucked in the "qt-designer ==> generate .ui ==> use .ui" workflow in PyKDE4, dont know where to start19:30
ryanakcaScottK: no licence :(19:30
Riddellryanakca: that's fine19:31
ScottKryanakca: Then I think the question would be better phrased as would they add one.19:31
nosrednaekimfftb » yeah, I found kde4 widgets don't translate correctly from the .ui to the .py19:31
Riddellfftb: looks like we don't know, you'd need to ask on the pyqt mailing list19:32
Riddellfftb: pykde 4 is very underused and underdocumented19:32
Riddellfftb: so once you find out how it all works, please do write some tutorials on techbase :)19:32
fftb:)19:33
fftbyeah, i had such an idea today19:33
jpatrickryanakca: yeah, there was a note about the license on the wiki19:34
fftbthere is indeed really a need for docs and tool-shaping19:34
fftbthanks guys19:35
ryanakcajpatrick: on wiki.ubuntu.com ? I couldn't find it. I did however find a message from a few years back about giving out the theme when they migrated from moinmoin to drupal19:37
ryanakcaok, last year, my bad :) https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2007-March/001196.html19:38
ryanakcajpatrick: sorry, my bad, found it. "This theme has restrictions on how it can be used: See the README.txt for instructions and details. To summarize, anyone can use this theme but unless you have an official affiliation with Canonical or Ubuntu.com that permits you to have a site that looks like the Ubuntu website, then you must change the look of this theme so that there is no confusion or suggestion that your site has some official ...19:41
ryanakca... relationship."19:41
ryanakcaScottK: ^^19:41
ryanakcahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Templates19:41
stdinRiddell: does kdepim really need libgpg-error-dev (>= 1.4-2ubuntu7) or will 1.4-2ubuntu1 do ?19:42
jpatrickryanakca: bingo, you found it19:42
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_StefanS_evening :)20:47
jpatrickevening _StefanS_20:49
_StefanS_Tonio_: hey, thanks for getting those patches done :)20:49
_StefanS_hey jpatrick20:49
_StefanS_anything happening ?20:50
jpatricknah, I think us europeans are getting ready for bed20:51
ScottKRiddell: Do we want sip4-qt3 4.7.4? http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/sip/chlog.php21:11
Riddellstdin: probably the older version will do21:40
RiddellScottK: depends if it breaks anything :)21:40
ScottKRiddell: Yeah, so I'll defer to your judgement on that.21:42
ScottKPersonally, I'd be inclined to go for it this soon after FF, but won't unless you think it's a good idea.21:43
jpatrickRiddell: you now have boosted access in #kubuntu-offtopic22:19
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blueyedWhat does KDE3 call for hibernation?22:40
smarterblueyed: /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh I think22:40
blueyedAnd KDE4?22:40
smarter /dev/null (:22:41
blueyedKDE3 worked fine, KDE4 does nothing.. ah.. :)22:41
smarterdoes not work too here22:41
blueyedreally? Where gets it called? Or should get called?22:41
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smarterreally what?22:42
blueyed /dev/null22:42
smarterthat was a joke :)22:42
smarter /dev/null is an empty file22:43
blueyedyeah, but would be easier for search and replace.. ;)22:43
blueyedI was just looking at bug 192759 - LP ate my comment though..22:43
ubotuLaunchpad bug 192759 in ubuntu "kde resume from suspend & resume.d scripts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19275922:43
blizzzekgn822:43
blueyedwell, yeah, comment was still available when going back in Konqueror.. \o/22:44
cheguevarammm23:27
cheguevarahttp://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot5uz8.png23:27
cheguevarahmm okular-kde4 doesnt install23:53

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