[00:17] <nosrednaekim> ok.... I need a some info for the compiz settings manager that we are doing.... what plugins should go in for each(there are two) effect level?
[00:26] <nosrednaekim> maybe I should put that on the mailing list?
[00:26] <nosrednaekim> or should I just use the ones from the gnome/ubuntu configurator?
[00:36] <vorian> nosrednaekim: i would think it should match the ubuntu configuration
[00:36] <vorian> I also think it should depend on ccsm
[00:36] <nosrednaekim> what do you mean "depend"?
[00:36] <vorian> utilize
[00:36] <nosrednaekim> it should pull in ccsm when you install compiz?
[00:36] <vorian> in ubuntu you have to install ccsm
[00:37] <vorian> right-o :)
[00:37] <vorian> but that's just me
[00:38] <nosrednaekim> I'll ask R1ddell
[00:39] <nosrednaekim> I think I will use the ubuntu ones though, they seem to have a pretty good mix.
[01:11] <blizzzek> gn8
[01:43] <Tonio_> crimsun_: I'm going to sleep, but I'll stay connected in case you answer in the meantime :)
[01:44] <Tonio_> Riddell: kdesudo kde3/kde4 are fixed, -u option now works everytime, and not randomly as before
[01:44] <crimsun_> Tonio_: sorry, not in a position to grab the patch.
[01:44] <Tonio_> crimsun_: email prefered so that you can read later ?
[01:44] <crimsun_> Tonio_: I will look ASAP and ping you
[01:44] <Tonio_> crimsun_: oki, no problem :)
[01:44] <crimsun_> err, well, no e-mail, so I'll just tell you in here.
[01:45] <Tonio_> Riddell: kde3 version uploaded, kde4 released tomorrow
[01:45] <Tonio_> crimsun_: okay :)
[04:44] <ryanakca> bashoh: please fix your client
[04:44] <bashoh> ok
[05:03] <ryanakca> bashoh: why are you always quitting and rejoining?
[05:04] <bashoh> sory
[05:04] <bashoh> It is not any longer
[05:05] <bashoh> It is various channels and ..saying...
[09:04] <blizzzek> hi
[10:23] <Tonio_> hi there !
[10:24] <Riddell> Tonio_!
[10:24] <Riddell> hmm, do we really want to use a custom plasma theme?
[10:25] <Tonio_> Riddell: for hardy ? I guess no
[10:25] <Tonio_> Riddell: for hardy+1, i'd say "of course" ;)
[10:25] <Tonio_> Riddell: we probably don't want to provide a high integration/specification level on kde4 atm, right ?
[10:26] <Riddell> well, we don't want to add a load of customisations to kde 4 if we can avoid it
[10:27] <Tonio_> Riddell: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KGRUBEditor?content=75442&PHPSESSID=2148199787d06b1ffd9e4fbe06c593ae
[10:27] <Tonio_> Riddell: interesting ;) this should be converted to a kcm module, but looks nice !
[10:28] <Tonio_> Riddell: sure, but well you talked about a "theme", that's not a big deal on the other hand
[10:28] <Tonio_> Riddell: I  agree we should avoid tweaking as much as we did with kde3
[10:29]  * Tonio_ prepares kdesudo-kde4 for public release
[10:31] <Tonio_> Riddell: talking about customisation, I'm working on the patches you imported from mandriva for xdg directories
[10:33] <Tonio_> Riddell: http://toniox.org/tmp/capture78.png
[10:33] <Tonio_> Riddell: there's a missing icon for "documents" and also the text should be first char upper imho
[10:33] <Tonio_> that's looks a bit "unfinished" atm ;)
[10:36] <Riddell> 404 - Not Found
[10:38] <Tonio_> Riddell: http://toniox.org/temp/capture78.png
[10:38] <Tonio_> sorry :)
[10:41] <Riddell> we also need to change k3b, digikam etc to use them
[10:43] <Riddell> those texts are an upstream issue by the way
[10:54] <Tonio_> upstream ?
[10:54] <Tonio_> which upstream ? those are mandriva patches no ?
[10:54] <Riddell> xdg-user-dirs is from freedesktop.org
[10:55] <Tonio_> Riddell: I doubt there is an upstream issue on that point, otherwise the folder in ~/ wouldn't be named correctly
[10:55] <Tonio_> Riddell: aren't the patches simply not using the good "info" as name ?
[10:55] <Riddell> I assume they get the names from xdg-user-dirs
[10:56] <Riddell> although I don't know why it loses the upper case indeed
[10:56] <Tonio_> Riddell: that's what I want to look at
[10:56] <Tonio_> Riddell: appart from that the names are perfectly correct, at least in french :)
[11:00] <Tonio_> Riddell: about multimedia apps, that's not an easy job since the folders names are localized....
[11:00] <Tonio_> Riddell: we can configure the apps within the rc file and that should probably be done in the sources directly...
[11:00] <Tonio_> Riddell: do we really want this ?
[11:01] <jpatrick> Riddell: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2008-February/003356.html
[11:02] <Riddell> Tonio_: hmm right.  what a stupid spec it is
[11:02] <Tonio_> Riddell: s/we can/we can't/ ;)
[11:03] <Riddell> jpatrick: he wants to talk to upstream
[11:03] <Tonio_> Riddell: bah, best is to let the users use the folders if they want it
[11:03] <jpatrick> Riddell: ok, will tell him
[11:03] <Tonio_> Riddell: talking about kdesudo-kde4, there is no messages.sh script atm
[11:03] <Tonio_> Riddell: I don't really know how pot extraction works with kde4 so that'll be the purpose of another release, 3.1 probably
[11:04] <Riddell> Tonio_: you could host kdesudo in KDE's svn, that would solve that problem :)
[11:05] <Tonio_> Riddell: hum that's done automagically then ? interesting
[11:06] <Riddell> well it's done by a nightly script
[11:08] <Tonio_> Riddell: oki I'll investigate, but I really prefer to stay on bzr since we can manage upload permissions arround launchpad
[11:08] <Tonio_> Riddell: also I don't wan't kde's horrible bts to become kdesudo's ;)
[11:12] <Tonio_> Riddell: fyi, my "logout freezes X" issue was another ati/fglrx shinny "feature" :'(
[11:12] <Tonio_> using radeaonhd fixes.... I can't wait for radeaonhd to provide 2D and 3D acceleration support
[11:12] <Tonio_> should happen in a few month now
[11:16] <Tonio_> Riddell: I don't know if you seen that, but I commited another system-config-printer-kde with a little fix
[11:16] <Tonio_> Riddell: there was some "/home/jr" path to the code, breaking the applet
[11:17] <Riddell> perfectly good path that :)
[11:19] <Tonio_> Riddell: hehe :)
[11:19] <txwikinger> WIll the path be automatically created? ;)
[11:21] <Tonio_> Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=kdesudo-kde4
[11:21] <Tonio_> Riddell: I know you can't wait to revu this one :)
[11:22] <Tonio_> apache|mobile: you are invited to revu this one too ;)
[11:23] <apache|mobile> Tonio_: "Homepage:" should be an entry under "Standards-Version"
[11:24] <apache|mobile> Tonio_: IMHO you should also indicate in the description that this is the KDE 4 version of kdesudo
[11:24] <jpatrick> Tonio_: I believe the KDE 4 cdbs has been updated
[11:24] <Tonio_> apache|mobile: hum right, that's old packaging in fact, and that changed....
[11:24] <Riddell> Tonio_: no COPYING.LIB file
[11:25] <Riddell> yes, that's an old kde.mk
[11:25] <Tonio_> Riddell: do we need one ? there is no more admin/ folder....
[11:25] <Tonio_> Riddell: where to get the latest ?
[11:25] <Riddell> Tonio_: kde4libs
[11:26] <Riddell> kcookie.h is LGPL
[11:26] <jpatrick> Tonio_: or kepas for a smaller package
[11:26] <Riddell> Tonio_: no COPYING.DOC
[11:27] <jpatrick> Tonio_: bug #192350 if you need an example for a freeze exception
[11:27] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 192350 in semantik "[Feature Freeze Exception] New upstream release" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192350
[11:27] <jpatrick> see comment 7
[11:28] <Tonio_> jpatrick: thanks
[11:28] <Tonio_> Riddell: what is the copying.doc for ?
[11:29] <Riddell> Tonio_: the documentation licence
[11:29] <Tonio_> Riddell: I didn't knew it was a requirement :)
[11:30] <Riddell> it's a requirement that the copying licence be included
[11:30] <Tonio_> Riddell: hum isn't that the COPYING file ?
[11:30] <Tonio_> AHHHHHHHHHHHH oki ;)
[11:31] <Tonio_> stupid of me, of course, that's needed
[11:31] <Tonio_> we're on sunday, that may explain........ ;)
[11:35] <Tonio_> Riddell, apache|mobile: update in revu in a few minutes, I'll ping you
[11:41] <Tonio_> Riddell, apache|mobile : http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=kdesudo-kde4
[11:49] <Riddell> kdesudo-3.0/kdesudo/.deps/
[11:49] <Riddell> kdesudo-3.0/kdesudo/.libs/
[11:50] <Tonio_> argh, those stupid hidden files.....
[11:50] <Tonio_> Riddell: right
[11:52] <Riddell> Tonio_: debian/copyright should also mention the LGPL
[11:53] <Tonio_> Riddell: that also changed ? there was a fight on revu about that ;)
[11:53] <Riddell> it's not essential (LGPL can be upgraded to GPL) but it good practice to list all the licences
[11:54] <Riddell> what happened in the fight on revu?
[11:56] <Riddell> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUDSPragueSpecs
[11:58] <Tonio_> Riddell: it was decided that not all the licences needed to be mentionned as long as the files concerned where comming from other projects (like the kde admin/ folder)
[11:59] <Tonio_> Riddell: but now kcookie files are directly in the source, so I guess you are riht
[11:59] <Tonio_> right
[11:59] <Tonio_> Riddell: I already uploaded on revu with the fix
[11:59] <Riddell> I wonder if anyone asked the archive admins
[11:59] <Tonio_> Riddell: I did
[11:59] <Riddell> I don't remember that :)
[12:00] <Tonio_> Riddell: you were saying "I doubt we get any benefit having a stricted NEW policy than debian" ;)
[12:01] <Tonio_> stricter
[12:02] <jpatrick> Riddell: interesting specs
[12:02] <Riddell> jpatrick: interesting good?
[12:03] <jpatrick> Riddell: yes
[12:06] <Riddell> phew
[12:06] <Tonio_> Riddell: I have a few specs to add to, as for example, porting guidance and all pyqt4 devs we did to pykde4
[12:06] <Tonio_> Riddell: but that's a hudge work I suspect
[12:10] <iRon> Riddell: "...How to add policykit use to kcontrol modules?" I'm working on this now ;-)
[12:13] <Riddell> iRon: I've seen Frerich Raabe raabe@ kde.org talk about it too, you might want to e-mail him and see what's happening
[12:13] <fftb> hi there
[12:13] <Riddell> fftb!
[12:14] <fftb> it'll be a little bit OT, but has somebody a .ui file for KMainWindow which I can put in my ~/.designer/templates/ directory?
[12:15] <Riddell> not I
[12:16] <Tonio_> Riddell: sorry for bugging you again, but the kdesudo-kde4 should be okay this time :) once approved I'll write the FFe
[12:17] <fftb> I try to uic.loadUi("some.ui") with PyKDE4, but somehow my own KMainWindow template is messed up
[12:19] <Riddell> fftb: you'd need to show us your code
[12:19] <fftb> Riddel: uhh
[12:20] <fftb> i am afraid, it's really awkward :/
[12:23] <fftb> hmm, i write a new template from scratch and try to keep track of what happens
[12:23] <fftb> thx, anyway
[12:25] <Riddell> Tonio_: advocated
[12:25] <Tonio_> Riddell: super thanks
[12:25] <jpatrick> Tonio_: yes, upload
[12:26] <Tonio_> oki
[12:26] <Riddell> mornfall: libwibble synced, libept merged (has a gcc 4.3 patch diff, debian bug 455334)
[12:26] <ubotu> Debian bug 455334 in libept "FTBFS with GCC 4.3: missing #includes" [Important,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/455334
[12:26] <Tonio_> Riddell: can I ping you for FFe ? you're archive admin right ?
[12:26] <mornfall> Riddell: Thanks.
[12:27] <Riddell> Tonio_: I am, dunno how the motu feel about me approving that
[12:27] <Riddell> Tonio_: however I approve it :)
[12:28] <jpatrick> "* Ridell is happy with this, who should know best"
[12:28] <Tonio_> well kdesu is broken, so kdesudo is a requirement, in any case
[12:31] <jpatrick> Riddell: can I get access in #kubuntu-offtopic?
[12:31] <stdin> sometimes it seems like Tm_T is the only -offtopic op
[12:32] <jpatrick> damn
[12:38] <Riddell> jpatrick: I don't have op granting powers there, and there's no staffers on duty to give them to me
[12:39] <jpatrick> shame, we have a troll in there
[12:39] <Riddell> jpatrick: oped
[12:40] <jpatrick> Riddell: thanks
[12:40] <Riddell> jpatrick: poke nalioth and get him to up my powers there so i can give you proper channel privilages
[12:40] <jpatrick> Riddell: will do
[12:47] <Tonio_> Riddell: bug 192622
[12:47] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 192622 in kdesudo "[Feature Freeze Exception]New upstream release (kde4 port)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192622
[12:49] <Riddell> Tonio_: we can probably just put this directly into main since it's from the same codebase as the one alreay in main
[12:50] <Riddell> Tonio_: so no asking motu for FFe, just upload it and I'll let it through
[12:50] <Tonio_> Riddell: you decide on that point :)
[12:50] <Tonio_> Riddell: okay ;)
[12:50] <Riddell> Tonio_: also you can add it to the kubuntu-kde4.hardy seed and update the meta package
[12:53] <Tonio_> Riddell: uploaded, I'll change the seeds this afternoon
[12:53] <stdin> Riddell: I just -o you in #k, I didn't notice but you've been +o since friday ;)
[12:54] <Riddell> stdin: it makes me feel important :)
[12:55] <stdin> you don't need +o to be important to us :)
[12:55] <apachelogger> txwikinger: maybe we should use tags for upstream report tracking?
[12:56] <apachelogger> needs-upstream-report -> upstream-report
[12:56] <txwikinger> well upstream as a tag?
[12:56] <txwikinger> Ah ok
[12:56] <txwikinger> yes .. I think this is a good idea
[12:56]  * apachelogger goes for it
[12:56] <txwikinger> needs-sync when upstream is fixed?
[12:57] <apachelogger> needs-upstream-sync
[12:57] <txwikinger> We need to write that down somewhere
[12:57] <stdin> apachelogger: I forget, did you apply the kdm-kde4 patch yet?
[12:57] <apachelogger> stdin: nope, ubuntuwire is down :P
[12:58]  * apachelogger should do it with the amarok server, got better uprate anyway
[12:58] <Tonio_> I have a little question regarding launchpad
[12:58] <Tonio_> how can I had the official tarball in there : https://edge.launchpad.net/kdesudo/+download
[12:58] <Tonio_> I can't seem to find the option to upload it
[12:59] <stdin> which also reminds me, Riddell: http://stdin.me.uk/diffs/kdebase_3.5.8-2ubuntu21.debdiff is the kde3 patch for kdebase to allow choosing between kdm-kde4 and kdm again
[13:00] <apachelogger> Tonio_: you will have to link it IIRC
[13:00] <Tonio_> apachehow so ?
[13:00] <Tonio_> apachelogger: means I can't get the tarball stored on launchpad ?
[13:01] <stdin> Tonio_: you have to register a series and a release, then add it to that I think
[13:01] <apachelogger> Tonio_: yes
[13:01] <apachelogger> just follow what stdin told you :)
[13:01] <apachelogger> Upload
[13:01] <apachelogger>  You may upload files up to 60.0 MiB in size.
[13:07] <Riddell> stdin: I'll upload that now as part of 3.5.9
[13:07] <stdin> makes sense :)
[13:08] <Riddell> stdin: want to make a PPA for 3.5.9?
[13:09] <stdin> yeah, I'll register a team for it
[13:11] <Tonio_> stdin: do you know how to delete a series ?
[13:11] <apachelogger> txwikinger: needs-upstream-report -> upstream -> needs-upstream-sync?
[13:11] <apachelogger> Riddell: what do you think of these tag names for upstream bugs?
[13:11] <txwikinger> apachelogger: yes
[13:12] <stdin> Tonio_: I don't think you can
[13:12] <Riddell> apachelogger: I don't know what they mean
[13:14] <apachelogger> Riddell: well, if a bug needs a forward to upstream we tag it needs-upstream-report if it is reported the tag gets changed to upstream and if upstream fixed it but ubuntu version doesn't include it yet, the tag gets changed to need-upstram-sync
[13:14] <Tonio_> stdin: :/
[13:14] <apachelogger> Tonio_: you could probably file a wish
[13:14] <Riddell> apachelogger: probably best discussed with the bug squad
[13:14] <stdin> you'll have to go through an LP admin probably
[13:14] <apachelogger> true
[13:14] <Tonio_> apachelogger: oki, will try ;)
[13:14]  * apachelogger sends txwikinger to discuss with the bug squad
[13:14] <apachelogger> :P
[13:15] <txwikinger> apachelogger: well you want that in general, or for kde stuff?
[13:16] <apachelogger> txwikinger: just kde, though it might make sense for others as well
[13:16] <apachelogger> I imagine ubuntu also has quite some upstream bugs :)
[13:16] <txwikinger> well, I think we can put it on the wiki-page for the kde project
[13:17] <txwikinger> If we want to extend that to other things I can discuss it with the bug squaddies
[13:17] <apachelogger> ok
[13:17] <txwikinger> I remember there is a wiki-page that lists tags
[13:17] <txwikinger> let me look for it
[13:18]  * apachelogger notes that LP should have an autoclean feature for tags
[13:18] <apachelogger> there are like 30000000 of them
[13:18] <apachelogger> and approx 90% are kinda pointless
[13:18] <apachelogger> fail vs. faild vs. failed. vs. fails vs. failure
[13:19] <txwikinger> yes that is  an issue of flexibility vs. guidance
[13:20] <txwikinger> apachelogger: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Tags
[13:20] <txwikinger> I can add a kubuntu section
[13:20] <apachelogger> txwikinger: please :)
[13:21] <txwikinger> ok
[13:26] <txwikinger> apachelogger: How does this look like? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Tags
[13:27] <apachelogger> txwikinger: nice, thanks
[13:28] <txwikinger> That makes searches a lot easier!
[13:28] <apachelogger> oh yeah
[13:28] <apachelogger> txwikinger: I guess we can drop using the kde4 tag then, since it was basically used for that anyway
[13:29] <txwikinger> well.. I tagged all stuff that looked like specifically kde4 bugs
[13:29] <txwikinger> I think that still makes sense
[13:29] <txwikinger> Until we get rid of KDE3
[13:29] <apachelogger> ok
[13:33] <stdin> woo! I just got my first @ubuntu.com spam email :p
[13:33] <jpatrick> you're joking
[13:34] <stdin> Subject: enumerators
[13:34] <stdin> and it's about viagra or course
[13:35] <jpatrick> I get tons of spam from my @kubuntu.org and @... everyday
[13:36] <stdin> I meant to my @ubuntu.com, not from an @ubuntu.com
[13:36] <jpatrick> yeah, from redirect*
[13:36] <Riddell> stdin: 3.5.9 uploading now http://paste.ubuntu.com/4682/
[13:36] <Riddell> ScottK: if you want to put it into -backports ^^
[13:37]  * stdin get's downloading
[13:37] <Tonio_> stdin: thanks for the tip about launchpad, that helped a lot :)
[13:38] <stdin> LP is an odd thing to try to figure out, I only know some things through messing about with it when I'm bored ;)
[14:09] <Tonio__> I don't know what to think about that bug : https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdesudo/+bug/172438
[14:09] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 172438 in kdesudo "Wish: kdesudo2: A Convenient Hybrid Dialog" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
[14:09] <Tonio__> is it a joke ?
[14:10] <Lure> nice, 3.5.9 going into hardy...
[14:10] <Lure> hi Tonio_ and others
[14:10] <Tonio_> hey Lure !
[14:10] <jpatrick> ...
[14:11] <Riddell> Lure: please do try kdepim once it compiles
[14:11] <Lure> Riddell: sure I will ;-)
[14:11] <jpatrick> Tonio_: failed to parse bug report
[14:11]  * Riddell watches kosovo
[14:11] <Lure> Riddell: from balcony? ;-)
[14:13] <Tonio_> jpatrick: failed to parse ?
[14:13] <jpatrick> Tonio_: understnd
[14:14] <Tonio_> jpatrick: I don't understand why a "ok" is a real problem for the dialog....... it has never been for any dialog, not gksudo, not kdesu, but here, we are in front of a major bug...... I wonder what to do.....
[14:14] <Tonio_> won't fix ?
[14:14] <Lure> Riddell: do we have FF exception for kde 4.0.x releases? we should somehow get to ScottK's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StandingFeatureFreeze page
[14:15] <Lure> would make life easier for apacheloger and stdin
[14:16] <jpatrick> Tonio_: if it doesn't affect gksudo, yeah
[14:16] <Lure> any firefox user in kde4 around?
[14:16] <Tonio_> kwwii: ping ?
[14:20] <Nightrose> Lure: me
[14:21] <Riddell> Lure: no but we should be able to get one
[14:25] <Lure> Nightrose: does it look ugly in kde4? it seems no nice gtk-qt integration anymore...
[14:25] <Lure> Riddell: ok, btw - kde4 will move to main in hardy?
[14:25] <Nightrose> Lure: well yes somehow :) - I can get you a screenie if you want
[14:26] <smarter> Lure: gtk-qt4 engine: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/~ruphy/gtk-qt4-engine/
[14:28] <Lure> smarter: cool, need to look into this
[14:29] <Riddell> Lure: no
[14:32] <Tonio_> Riddell: have an idea how does a kpassword get its caption ?
[14:32] <Tonio_> Riddell: looks like it inhérits it from the parent process, but what if there isn't any ?
[14:32] <Riddell> kpassword?
[14:36] <tseliot> hi, I would like to use Adept to install packages from an application I'm writing in Python (pyqt4)
[14:36] <Tonio_> kpassworddialog, I would like to add a little icon to it
[14:36] <tseliot> would this be the right command?
[14:36] <tseliot> kdesu /usr/bin/adept_batch install name_of_the_package
[14:38] <Tonio_> Riddell: http://kde-apps.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=72106&file1=72106-1.png&file2=72106-2.png&file3=&name=KdeSudo
[14:38] <Tonio_> Riddell: as you can see, kdesudo doesn't have one, and I can't find how to...
[14:39] <Riddell> tseliot: yes that's right
[14:39] <tseliot> Riddell: thanks
[14:40] <Riddell> Tonio_: I don't understand what you're asking
[14:42] <Tonio_> just find out what I need :)
[14:42] <Tonio_> Riddell: I just want an icon on the top left ;)
[15:22]  * ryanakca wonders if he can get a copy of the current ubuntu.com drupal theme
[15:23] <jpatrick> you can
[15:24] <jpatrick> erm, it's on wiki.u.c somewhere
[15:27] <ryanakca> jpatrick: haha, bzr checkout http://www.ubuntu.com/themes/ubuntu07/    :)
[15:27] <jpatrick> ryanakca: it's ugly anyway
[15:27] <ryanakca> (not that we're supposed to know about that by the looks of it... nothing on the wiki)
[15:28] <ryanakca> jpatrick: yeah... but I think its easier to start from scratch based on that than try to work my way back from what I had (massive cleanup) or start completely from scratch
[16:00] <stdin> Riddell: did you notice that kdemultimedia-dbg has 2 Depends: lines?
[16:49] <stdin> Riddell: graphviz is now in universe, kdelibs can't have a Build-Depends-Indep on it :/
[16:52] <Riddell> stdin: ah, I wondered what the problem was with that
[16:52] <Riddell> stdin: do you know why it moved?
[16:53] <stdin> nope
[16:56] <stdin> I'm not sure why it's not in main tbh, it's maintainer is Ubuntu Core developers
[17:01] <stdin> I don't see any of it's build-deps in universe either
[17:01]  * stdin shrugs
[18:37] <fftb> uhm, is here the right place to ask some questions about PyKDE4 und puic4?
[18:38] <fftb> or can someone point me to a better location
[19:19] <Riddell> fftb: good as anywhere
[19:23] <fftb> Riddel: :) okay
[19:24] <fftb> there is a tool in python-kde5-dev package called pykdeuic4
[19:24] <fftb> i use it as a replacement for pyuic4
[19:25] <fftb> but, when i dont want to compile my .ui files i use ui.loadUi() from PyQt4
[19:26] <fftb> which dont understands pykde... my question: is there a pykde4 equivalent for the loadUi() method in pykde?
[19:28] <fftb> another thing is, even the pykdeuic4 script constructs stuff like "from kmainwindow import kmainwindow" which is wrong
[19:28] <ryanakca> Riddell: do you think Matt / Canonical would mind if I based myself off the ubuntu07 source? (the source/theme for the current ubuntu.com ... quicker than starting from scratch)
[19:30] <ScottK> ryanakca: My suggestion would be read the license and act accordingly.
[19:30] <fftb> i am kinda stucked in the "qt-designer ==> generate .ui ==> use .ui" workflow in PyKDE4, dont know where to start
[19:30] <ryanakca> ScottK: no licence :(
[19:31] <Riddell> ryanakca: that's fine
[19:31] <ScottK> ryanakca: Then I think the question would be better phrased as would they add one.
[19:31] <nosrednaekim> fftb » yeah, I found kde4 widgets don't translate correctly from the .ui to the .py
[19:32] <Riddell> fftb: looks like we don't know, you'd need to ask on the pyqt mailing list
[19:32] <Riddell> fftb: pykde 4 is very underused and underdocumented
[19:32] <Riddell> fftb: so once you find out how it all works, please do write some tutorials on techbase :)
[19:33] <fftb> :)
[19:33] <fftb> yeah, i had such an idea today
[19:34] <jpatrick> ryanakca: yeah, there was a note about the license on the wiki
[19:34] <fftb> there is indeed really a need for docs and tool-shaping
[19:35] <fftb> thanks guys
[19:37] <ryanakca> jpatrick: on wiki.ubuntu.com ? I couldn't find it. I did however find a message from a few years back about giving out the theme when they migrated from moinmoin to drupal
[19:38] <ryanakca> ok, last year, my bad :) https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2007-March/001196.html
[19:41] <ryanakca> jpatrick: sorry, my bad, found it. "This theme has restrictions on how it can be used: See the README.txt for instructions and details. To summarize, anyone can use this theme but unless you have an official affiliation with Canonical or Ubuntu.com that permits you to have a site that looks like the Ubuntu website, then you must change the look of this theme so that there is no confusion or suggestion that your site has some official ...
[19:41] <ryanakca> ... relationship."
[19:41] <ryanakca> ScottK: ^^
[19:41] <ryanakca> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Templates
[19:42] <stdin> Riddell: does kdepim really need libgpg-error-dev (>= 1.4-2ubuntu7) or will 1.4-2ubuntu1 do ?
[19:42] <jpatrick> ryanakca: bingo, you found it
[20:47] <_StefanS_> evening :)
[20:49] <jpatrick> evening _StefanS_
[20:49] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: hey, thanks for getting those patches done :)
[20:49] <_StefanS_> hey jpatrick
[20:50] <_StefanS_> anything happening ?
[20:51] <jpatrick> nah, I think us europeans are getting ready for bed
[21:11] <ScottK> Riddell: Do we want sip4-qt3 4.7.4? http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/sip/chlog.php
[21:40] <Riddell> stdin: probably the older version will do
[21:40] <Riddell> ScottK: depends if it breaks anything :)
[21:42] <ScottK> Riddell: Yeah, so I'll defer to your judgement on that.
[21:43] <ScottK> Personally, I'd be inclined to go for it this soon after FF, but won't unless you think it's a good idea.
[22:19] <jpatrick> Riddell: you now have boosted access in #kubuntu-offtopic
[22:40] <blueyed> What does KDE3 call for hibernation?
[22:40] <smarter> blueyed: /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh I think
[22:40] <blueyed> And KDE4?
[22:41] <smarter>  /dev/null (:
[22:41] <blueyed> KDE3 worked fine, KDE4 does nothing.. ah.. :)
[22:41] <smarter> does not work too here
[22:41] <blueyed> really? Where gets it called? Or should get called?
[22:42] <smarter> really what?
[22:42] <blueyed>  /dev/null
[22:42] <smarter> that was a joke :)
[22:43] <smarter>  /dev/null is an empty file
[22:43] <blueyed> yeah, but would be easier for search and replace.. ;)
[22:43] <blueyed> I was just looking at bug 192759 - LP ate my comment though..
[22:43] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 192759 in ubuntu "kde resume from suspend & resume.d scripts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192759
[22:43] <blizzzek> gn8
[22:44] <blueyed> well, yeah, comment was still available when going back in Konqueror.. \o/
[23:27] <cheguevara> mmm
[23:27] <cheguevara> http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot5uz8.png
[23:53] <cheguevara> hmm okular-kde4 doesnt install