ldscjp_: wait still00:00
scjp_ld,  okie i am gonna switch place i will be back in few minutes00:00
mefisto__Dr_Willis: it has some script checking for IE or safari on mac00:00
Dr_Willissounds like a site to avoide. :)00:01
Dr_Willisor use that agent-setting tool to make the browser appear as ie00:01
mefisto__konq doesn't work either00:01
mefisto__joe_: check this out too https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5900:02
scjp_ld, r u  really busy ?00:04
ldscjp_: busy, give me 15 mins00:05
arcticpenguin380what filesystem has less overhead then ext3?00:05
joe_download helper dont seem to be workin, I will check out that other one mefisto__00:05
Dr_Willisarcticpenguin380,  ext200:05
arcticpenguin380there both the same00:05
scjp_ld, ok00:05
arcticpenguin380except the journal00:05
unagimefisto__: yes im running compiz00:06
julius__how do i set my auto config for wireless00:07
unagianyone know why alt +f4 would stop closing windows other than the obvious keyboard shortcuts?00:12
julius__dose emit need help00:12
julius__alt f4 , try rebooting00:15
joe_unagi: have you seen this ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22387100:20
unagiim not running xfce00:20
default_opdoes anyone know of  graphical DNS updater utility?00:21
joe_but be same problem though00:21
unagi2 different desktop managers....00:21
joe_might be**00:21
joe_ok, dont try it then00:22
joe_just figured it is free to try00:22
unagihow can i try00:22
unagiim not running xubuntu00:22
unagiif im running ubuntu, how do i go to the K menu....00:22
joe_there must be a simular setting in what you are running ?00:23
unagicorrect but as i have said earlier, settings > keyboard shortcuts hasnt worked00:23
edward__quick noob question - what is the current kernel version I should be seeing in my Kubuntu installation00:24
joe_in keyboard shortcuts, what does it say is the keystroke for closing a window?00:25
unagialt + f400:26
joe_well thats very odd indead00:26
unagino keystroke works00:27
mefisto__unagi: maybe compiz keybindings is stealing that alt+F4. does it work if you turn off compiz?00:27
scjp_ld, whenever you be back just send me two or three messages i am waiting for you !!00:32
ldscjp_: still busy00:33
user__Hi I am trying to make the martian drivers for my modem but i get this error /tmp/ccyHGZDV.s:4852: Error: missing operand, can anyone help00:47
feierfoxhow to auto-shut-down my PC??00:48
Liono_i need a script that runs on boot. and soon after kde lauches and desktop is visible, it locks screen. 2. i need the script to lock screen 'after every 30 minuts of unlock'    is this right :?00:48
Liono_  activate screen "DISPLAY=:0.0 kdesktop_lock --forceunlock"00:48
Liono_  set timeout "at now +60min 'kdesktop_lock --forcelock'"00:48
feierfox: how to auto-shut-down my PC?00:48
Dr_williswhen do you want it to shut down?00:49
tekteendo you want it to always shutdown at the same time?00:50
feierfoxhalf hour00:50
feierfoxafter a00:50
feierfoxjust need a command00:51
feierfoxwant to go to bed now00:51
Dr_willishalt, or shutdown command.00:51
Dr_willisbut some how it needs to get ran as root in a half an hr.00:51
feierfoxand want to shut down my pc a haldf hour later00:51
Dr_willisI got my halt command set SUID. (which is not a good idea) , so i could just make a little script that waits 1/2 an hr. then runs it as my user.00:51
Dr_willisguess ya could use the at command, with sudo.00:52
scjp_ld, ?00:52
tekteenthe at command?00:52
Dr_willisman at00:53
Dr_willis at      executes commands at a specified time.00:53
feierfox shutdown -t 1800 means it will shut down in an half hour?00:53
tekteenecho "shutdown -h now" | at +30 min00:53
Dr_willis Other  valid  forâ00:54
Dr_willis       mats  are  +m,  where m is the number of minutes00:54
tekteenwith sudo00:54
tekteenecho "shutdown -h now" | sudo at +30 min00:54
Dr_willis shutdown +m 3000:54
tekteenI think mine works00:54
Dr_willisdozen of ways to do it. :)00:54
Dr_willissudo shutdown +m 3000:55
Dr_willismight do it00:55
feierfoxthank you all00:55
feierfoxin a half hour you will see me leave or not :)00:55
user__what packages do i need to make a driver?00:55
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)00:55
Dr_willisinstall build-essential for a start00:56
user__Dr_willis: Got it still wont make the driver00:56
Dr_willisuser__,  well 'make a driver' is a bit vague00:56
ubotuThe core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages00:56
default_opCan I delete a folder in my home directory called <mount point> ??  it's empty.  I think it's created from a bad folder direction wehn setting up fstab00:56
user__Dr_willis: I am trying to make the martian modem driver using the source00:57
Dr_willisdefault_op,  rm '<dir name>'00:57
user__Dr_willis: I have build-esentials, make, gcc, cmake and it wont compile00:57
Dr_willisnote the quotes00:57
Dr_willisor rmdir 'whatever' :)00:57
default_opDr_willis: so it's not so important00:58
ldscjp_: give me more time.........00:58
Dr_willisstill tha trick is the quotes00:58
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »00:58
scjp_ld, i hope you not gonna leave me alone becoz i am just waiting for you, you are my hope to get this oracle fixed00:59
Liono_Dr_willis you there01:01
ldscjp_: i'm still online. i hope i will be able to assist you in couple of minutes01:01
Dr_willisin and out. :)01:01
Dr_willisWatching Astro Boy.:)01:01
Liono_how to auto run a script at boot and keep it running when a user logs in.  (in a way that the user or any other user cant stop that script from running or delete the file or logs out of it)?01:01
Dr_willisdepends on what its doing.01:02
Dr_willis/etc/rc.local is one place to start things01:02
Liono_but that will run a thing for ALL users.01:06
Dr_willisrc.local gets ran befor X even starts up.01:06
Dr_willisit gets ran once.. at system boot.01:06
yassine_i've just installed kubuntu 7.10 kde4..... and i want to install kde3.5.8.. wich commande do i have to execute??01:06
Liono_Dr_willis and it continues for ever?01:07
Liono_Dr_willis and it continues running for ever?01:07
Dr_willisLiono_,  basicially. Unless you some how Kill what you ran. or the program exits. :)01:07
Dr_willisI normally use rc.local to run  a few services I made up.01:07
SlimeyPeteyassine_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop will probably work, but I'm not 100% sure.01:07
Liono_ is there  a way that in a user login say 'user1' who is not root or admin. a script is run by a sudoer /admin on boot (so he cant stop it) ?01:09
Liono_Dr_willis ^01:09
p-fCan anyone tell me what fonts are used in the browser on the left in this screenshot please? http://awesome.naquadah.org/screenshots/2.png (the same question applies for the browser's statusbar)01:09
Dr_willisthings ran on BOOT get ran from rc.local01:10
yassine_SlimeyPete: i wanted to be sure, it's : sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop..... thks01:10
Dr_willisor other ways.. how do you expect a user to run somthing. befor the user logs in? :) ya could use su in rc.local to runs omthing as a different user i guess.. dependiong onwhat you are running01:10
Dr_willisIt might be best to tell us what you are trying to run.01:10
ldscjp_: i'm available now.01:14
ldscjp_: where were we? did you reinstall oracle-xe package?01:14
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Liono_Dr_willis ok01:16
adrock358Hey guys01:17
adrock358got a question-ola here01:17
adrock358after I update my system my video card gets screwy, and I can't boot up.  I see all lines of colors and stuff. the only way to fix it is if i unplug my computer to reset the ide settings.01:18
adrock358Anybody have any suggestions?  I am a complete noob.01:18
Dr_williside settings? How the heck are you resetting ide settings?01:19
Dr_willisHow did you install the video card drivers in the first place? what is the video card?01:19
adrock358well, i don't know what it is.  it says something about ide settings01:19
Dr_willisIDE is the hard drive - nothingtodo with the video.01:19
adrock358i didn't install the video card.  just installed ubuntu from live cd01:20
scjp_ld, yes i did01:20
Dr_willisafter installing - one of the first things todo is install the proper video card drivers for your video card.01:20
ldscjp_: i'm downloading oracle-xe now, and i'll try to install and run it01:20
scjp_ld, but there is no "/etc/init.d/oracle-xe" file01:20
adrock358hmmm.  cool.  didn't know that.01:20
Dr_willissame thing i do in windows. :) heh heh..01:20
adrock358is there a way to find out the name of my card?01:20
ldscjp_: the package gets 4 mins to download01:20
adrock358yeah.  i do it in windows too.01:21
scjp_ld, which  i needed it to configure oracle-xe01:21
Dr_willisits your machine.. look in the docs? inside the case?  what drivers do you install in windows?01:21
scjp_ld, i hope you will be able to configure the oracle-xe and then send me the missing files i dont have01:21
ldscjp_: what os are you using?01:21
scjp_ld, i am using ubuntu, kubuntu both01:21
ldscjp_: what version?01:22
scjp_ld, i dont know about the version of kubuntu but ubuntu gutsy 7.10 wait let me check the version of kubuntu01:22
adrock358here's my driver Dr_willis Video:Intel 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller Driver01:23
Dr_willisI know very little about the intel video cards. Not sure what if anything needs tobe installed for them01:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about inetl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:23
scjp_ld, kubuntu version 7.10 gutsy01:23
Dr_willisI do know thers some issues with some intel chipsets - on occasion.01:23
adrock358hmm this si crazy.  got to hit google.  i'll be right back01:24
Dr_willisI would say check theubuntu/kubuntu forums for that exact video card/chipset01:24
adrock358k thanks01:24
Liono_ how to log all the "screen unlocking events"  for ever. and continuous even resumable after shutdowns ?01:26
adrock358dr_willis.  what's the chipset?01:26
Dr_willisin your case01:27
ldscjp_: package downloaded. installing it..01:29
ldscjp_: i have not enough swap space and i need to add some01:30
scjp_ld, http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/linux/install/xe-on-kubuntu.html <----01:31
ldscjp_: i did 'dpkg -i oracle-xe_10.2.0.1-1.0_i386.deb' and installation went ok01:35
ldscjp_: there was problem about libaio but i quickly solved by by 'apt-get install libaio'01:36
scjp_ld, alrite but did you configure it01:37
ldscjp_: yes, no problems01:37
scjp_ld, alrite can you access the web-interface of it01:38
ldscjp_: if it is possible we could change to private channel and you could paste every output of installation progress...01:38
scjp_ld, send me a private message01:39
ldi am not registered user, maybe my message was forbidden01:40
scjp_okie why not register it with the one command01:41
scjp_ld, or you can chat with me on messenger01:42
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ld666scjp_: i'm now registered as user ld666 :)01:44
* Liono_ sees no one knows his problems in 11 channels and 4 networks 2500 users !01:48
Dr_willisgee Liono_  i dident even see you state a problem here lately.01:49
Liono_Dr_willis ok. here goes01:50
selckinyou need cron and 10min of bash scripting01:50
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Liono_ how to log all the "screen unlocking events"  for ever. and continuous even resumable after shutdowns ?01:50
Liono_Dr_willis ^01:50
Dr_willisare they being logged now somewhere?01:51
foiblesis there some sort of codec you need to play high definition properly?01:51
foiblesthe video files i have keep coming out rendered wrong01:51
foiblesor not at all01:51
foibleseven with vlc player01:51
Dr_willisYou are refering to the screen saver locking? or a lptop screen power saving?01:51
Dr_willisfoibles,  just whatever codec the file is in.01:51
Liono_Dr_willis ctrl + alt + L        screen lock. similer to screen saver01:52
Dr_willisfoibles,  there was some issues/bug  i recall with some nvidia cards/video playback01:52
Dr_willisLiono_,  ive never noticed any of that stuff getting logged anywere. Its possible that gnome or kde may have some event handler for it. But ive never seen it mentioned.01:52
Dr_willisThe #kde guys may have info on it.01:53
Liono_2500 dont01:53
Dr_willisI dont even know why you would want to  log when the screensaver kicks in. :)01:53
ArtimusI'm having troubles, I'm unable to change my resolution, I'm stuck at 1024x768.  I can't switch to 800x600 in KDE or with xrandr.  Anyone have any idea?01:54
Dr_willisguess you could poll the processes every 20 sec or so and see if the screen locker is running.. and make a note somewhere in a file.01:54
Dr_willis!fixres | Artimus01:54
ubotuArtimus: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:54
biovoreArtimus: probably xorg setup wrong.. see if 800x600 is set as a resolution01:54
Dr_willisIts possible your Monitor is not set right. also.01:54
Artimusbiovore: Modes           "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"01:55
ArtimusDr_willis: It's set to the same values I've been using for 4 years01:55
ArtimusI blame the nvidia driver for this...01:55
Dr_willisArtimus,  possibially true. :)01:55
biovorepossibly.. nvidia does like to do weird stuff..01:56
ArtimusI can force a resolution change with nvidia-settings...01:56
Dr_willisI normally just set 1 res. and leave it at that.01:56
biovorethey broke alot of stuff with geforce 8 series on linux01:56
ArtimusDr_willis: Tell that to my games.01:56
Dr_willisto use the xrandr thing - dosent one have to enable the proper xrand feature in the xorg.conf also.01:56
Dr_willisI run all my games at my lcd's native res.  so sue me. :)01:56
Dr_willisBut i rarely game under linux.01:57
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Dr_willisi wonder if the alt-ctrl-Numpad + and - will work to change your res.01:57
the_darkside_986hi everyone. does anyone have information on changing the height of the top desktop menu bar (which is not shown by default)01:57
scjp_ld666, ????01:58
ArtimusDr_willis: Nope.  That uses xrandr, I believe.01:58
Dr_willisArtimus,  i think that was a feature way way befor xrandr was around.. but who knows what xorg changed. :)01:58
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:59
ArtimusThis might be it...  Option "UseEdidFreqs" "false".  I had a different value set, it might have been wrong...01:59
JahromeoI need help my adept keeps performing illegal operation type things and closing down01:59
Artimus(I had "UseEDID" "false", not sure if that does anything.  Worth a try)01:59
ld666scjp_: i think private messaging does not work here, because i'm not registered member01:59
scjp_ld666, okie  do you have msn id ?01:59
ld666scjp_: i just became registered a few minutes ago and i have no idea why it does not work02:00
ld666scjp_: no i dont02:00
Dr_willisUseEdid i think tries to grab the proper 'modes' information from your monitor.  - its possible the moniotr is not reporting the right info. thus X wont let you go to a mode it dont  think the moniot can handle.02:00
ArtimusNope, looks like UseEDID alone should have taken care of it.02:00
ArtimusDr_willis: UseEDID "False" disables any EDID features...  I've already got that one, so that's not it.02:01
scjp_ld666, how about that give that command /msg nickserv identify <yourpassword>02:01
ld666scjp_: i did that02:01
Jahromeomy adept keeps closing down due to errors - can anyone help me reinstall it?02:02
cpk1 using the stock feisty kernel and cant seem to get madwifi to work, tried using restricted modules and compiling madwifi from trunk svn but still cant insert ath_pci... any idea why?02:02
scjp_ld666, did you have any messenger id you use ?02:02
scjp_ld666, skype ?02:03
Stratman4300what's the command to restart kicker???02:04
ld666scjp_: now i'm in intermediate environment, best option is irc02:04
ubuntu_does anyone happen to know why when I boot from the cd it doesnt let me log in as root02:05
Dr_willisthe live cd has no root user password.02:05
Dr_willisyou can just 'sudo -i' i think to get a root shell02:05
ubuntu_is there a way to load my desktop preferences02:06
scjp_ld666, okie so if you paste the oracle-xe file contents to pastebin , i want to run the oracle-xe file to check otherwise i am out of the options02:06
ld666scjp_: let's try it02:06
Dr_willisubuntu_,  load them from a installed system to the live cd? Hmm.. Guess ya could copy stuff from  /whevermounted/home/user name to /home/username02:07
ArtimusWell, without restarting X, resolution switching is working again.  Sure, why not...02:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kicker - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:07
scjp_ld666, okie02:07
Dr_willisMagic :)02:07
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ArtimusDr_willis: I added a few lines to xorg.  xrandr might have picked up on that.  Or magic.02:08
ubuntu_i booted frpm the cd.  I am just trying to log in as my root acct on the hd02:08
ld666scjp_: http://pastebin.com/m59f59e8a02:09
Dr_willisEleven Tux Magic.02:09
ubuntu_i know if you let it close kicker its a pain to get your desktop back\02:09
ArtimusAlt+F2 kicker Enter02:10
ubuntu_i dont think u need sudo at all if u boot from the cd02:10
Dr_willisubuntu_,  you can 'chroot' over to the hd's system with the proper use of the chroot command..  depends on what you are trying to do as to whats best.02:10
ubuntu_just log in really02:10
ubuntu__maybe_ work on vega strike development02:11
the_darkside_986afaik, everything admin must be done with "sudo" on the live cd. like grub and mounting. i know this from experience :|02:11
scjp_ld666, command not found same error message even the damn file oracle-xe exists02:12
ld666scjp_: try to figure out which command was not found02:13
scjp_ld666, oracle-xe command02:13
oemneed to connect to my openssh-server02:14
ld666scjp_:  maybe you forgot to 'chmod +x /etc/init.d/oracle-xe'02:14
scjp_ld666, same thing02:15
scjp_ld666, just wana cry02:15
scjp_ld666, should i change the port number or leave it as default 808002:17
Liono_ how to log all the "screen unlocking events"  for ever. and continuous even resumable after shutdowns ?02:17
ld666if you created /etc/init.d/oracle-xe file properly and you made it executable, there should be no error like 'oracle-xe command not found'02:17
scjp_ld666, should i change the port number or leave it as default 808002:18
ld666scjp_: if there is no other software binding to that port, there should be no reson to change it02:18
the_darkside_986i can't find the local config file for the KDE top-menu-bar... i want to put a Kubuntu icon in it and resize it to half size. by default it is too large and looks out of place. any ideas?02:18
Dr_willisthe #kde guys may know.02:20
scjp_ld666, now got loads of errors02:20
the_darkside_986oh ok02:20
ld666scjp_: you can check if any software is using port 8080 by commands: 'fuser -n tcp 8080' or 'netstat -nls | grep 8080'02:20
ld666scjp_: tell me exactly the error messages02:20
scjp_ld666, http://rifers.org/paste/show/669502:21
ubuntu_apt-get update is not considered _admin_ ?02:21
ubuntu_cant run apt-get install even with sudo02:22
Dr_willisInstalling stuff to when booting off the live cd - with the apt-get stuff.. is not doable i think.02:23
ld666scjp_: if the default /usr/lib/oracle/xe/app/oracle/product/10.2.0/server/network/admin/listener.ora file could not be created during installation, there would be a message about it02:23
Dr_willisIf you chroot to the installed system. you can then install stuff02:23
ld666scjp_: please try to pass log from installing the oracle-xe package02:23
scjp_ld666, okie there is no file created at the name of listener.ora at that directory02:24
scjp_ld666, if you have a look on your installation directory you should have listener.ora file, if you can pass me that one, i will just make one02:25
ld666scjp_: that should not be the case here. either oracle gets installed and creates listener.ora, or it had fatal error during installation...02:25
scjp_ld666, okie let me pass you the log fie02:26
ubuntu_did i say thanks02:26
scjp_ld666, how should i find the log file, r we looking for the listener.log file02:27
scjp_ld666, ?02:27
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ubuntu_is there a way to run vega strike on the dinosaur that is my athlon k7t?02:28
ld666scjp_: there should be some output of 'dpkg -i oracle-xe_10.2.0.1-1.0_i386.deb'02:28
adrock358Dr_willis.  i'm back.  i have a question about my video driver.  I went to the ubuntu page to look at how to install my video driver.  However, there are two different options, and I am unsure which to pick.  if you coould help me out I would be in your debt forever.  the link it here, in case you wanted to look at it.  thanks.  I'm under Intel.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56285/02:28
ld666scjp_: that is not ordinary...02:28
scjp_ld666, okie there is just only one log file called listener.log in the log folder02:29
Dr_willisadrock358,  what was yiour chipset anyway?02:30
ld666scjp_: i think private chat started working from now... it will be much easier if we could paste some lines instantenously...02:31
ld666scjp_: let me know if you received my msg on prv02:32
Dr_willisnone of that info really seems to apply.02:35
Dr_willishttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=553741 mentio  Check for video memory setting in the BIOS. Set it at 8192 KB.02:36
Dr_willis!info i91502:37
ubotuPackage i915 does not exist in gutsy02:37
Dr_willis!find i91502:37
ubotuPackage/file i915 does not exist in gutsy02:37
Israphel!find gedit02:37
ubotuFound: gedit-plugins, moaggedit, gedit, gedit-common, gedit-dev02:37
Israphelwhat are you looking for02:38
Liono_how to change system log behaviour. to include things or details. verbose.  etc?02:38
Dr_willisinfo on 82845G  intel video under gutys02:39
adrock358dr_willis  yeah.  I guess i'll try to reset the video memory setting and see what that does.  i'll be back.02:39
kyled185I'm curious, how would I go about finding out why my laptop runs so d*** hot sometimes?02:41
Dr_willisBeause you are a leet haxor? :)02:43
kyled185Dr_willis: ?02:45
kyled185Dr_willis: were you talking to me?02:46
Dr_willisits possible your cpu isent throttling down.  kyled18502:46
Dr_willistheres some extra power saving tools/packages you couldisntall. or test out the powertop  tool and its suggestions.02:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about powertop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:47
kyled185Dr_willis: well, the nvidia proprietary driver is retarded and causes glitches/hangs when it speeds down/up so the current workaround is to disable that02:48
kyled185Dr_willis: would that make heat billow up from underneath my laptop's keyboard and make my fingers sweat?02:49
Dr_willisYep. Video card and cpu run so hot these days. without the right drivers they  get real warm.02:50
kyled185meh, nvidia might have easier drivers to install, but they are just crap when it comes down to it02:51
Jahromeowhat would string be to get skype from konsole - sudo apt-get install skype?"02:51
Jahromeowhat would string be to get skype from konsole - sudo apt-get install skype02:51
Dr_willis!info skype02:51
ubotuPackage skype does not exist in gutsy02:51
Jahromeoits in medibuntu02:51
Jahromeowhich ive added02:51
Dr_willisdo an apt-cache search skype then.02:52
Jahromeoi cant use adept tho as its unstable as hell and perma crashes02:52
Dr_willisand see what it shows.02:52
Dr_willisinstall/use synaptic if you want02:52
kyled185personally I think adept is a little better02:52
kyled185 /drunk02:52
Jahromeojerome@AbadonwareLinux:~$ sudo apt-get install skype-common02:52
JahromeoReading package lists... Done02:52
JahromeoSegmentation fault (core dumped)02:52
Jahromeowhats up with that02:52
Dr_willisi find adept bordering on the usless. :)02:52
Jahromeoit comes up under my apt-get search02:53
Dr_willissounds bad...02:53
eddyHI again...02:53
Jahromeodo adept/synaptic do the same thing02:53
Jahromeojust diff ways of doing it?02:53
Jahromeohad synaptic in pclinux02:53
Dr_willisthey are all front ends to the apt-get tools02:53
biovorethere graphical front ends to the CLI apt-get command02:53
Israphelthey do the same02:54
eddysomeone know about a anjuta anjuta tutorial02:54
Israphelwith different colour02:54
Dr_willisif apt-get is core dumping.. thats bad..02:54
eddyin spanish preferably02:54
Israphelen gallego, a ver si encuentro02:54
eddyspanish avaliable02:54
Jahromeojerome@AbadonwareLinux:~$ sudo apt-get install skype-common02:54
JahromeoReading package lists... Done02:54
JahromeoSegmentation fault (core dumped)02:54
biovoreprobably a hardware problem02:55
Jahromeojerome@AbadonwareLinux:~$ sudo apt-get install synaptic02:55
JahromeoReading package lists... Done02:55
JahromeoSegmentation fault (core dumped)02:55
Jahromeowhat the hell is up with that02:55
Dr_willisor a nasty currupted data file for the apt settings02:55
biovorecould be a corrupted file somewhere02:55
Jahromeomy adept etc is broken02:55
Jahromeomy adept auto crashes when opened02:55
biovoreor hardware failure02:55
Israpheltutorial http://barrapunto.com/articles/07/09/02/2256235.shtml02:55
Jahromeoi had no issues in pclinux02:55
Dr_willisJahromeo,  yes.. we get  it.. :)  somthingis broke with your apt system.02:55
Israpheleddy http://barrapunto.com/articles/07/09/02/2256235.shtml02:55
Jahromeoanyone care to help me fix it? this is a bloody fresh install02:56
Jahromeoonly installed it today and i havnt even used adept yet02:56
Dr_willisfor a start you may want to  boot the live cd. and fsck the filesystem.02:56
Dr_willisits possible theres some disk issue.02:56
biovoreJahromeo: dmesg have any weirdness in it about your harddisk..02:56
kyled185or run memtest8602:56
Dr_willisyea - check dmesg output also.02:57
Jahromeoyou guys are missing the point - this partition just worked 100% with kde pclinux02:57
Jahromeoand its just been formatted again02:57
biovorethat dosn't mean squat torwards what might be wrong02:57
Dr_willisJahromeo,  so what do you want us to do then? It used to work.. your logic implies that its still working....02:57
Jahromeoproblem with my kbuntu install came when it was mirroring repos it got stuck forever then fsckd up sources list02:57
Dr_willisyep. Possible the adept packages/settings got messed up.02:58
ign0ramushello all.  could someone please look at this error message and perhaps give me some insight as to what's going wrong? --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56287/02:58
Jahromeono way to just fix adept from konsole?02:58
Dr_willistry an 'apt-get --version' command ? :) see if tha works02:58
Dr_willisadept is a front end to the apt-get commands.02:58
Jahromeoapt 0.7.6ubuntu14 for i386 compiled on Oct 15 2007 20:39:1002:58
Dr_willisif those are crashing - adept aint going tobe working either.02:58
Dr_willisat leat it dident crash. :)02:59
Dr_willistry a 'sudo apt-get update'  ? see if that crashes02:59
maltronHi all.  Can anyone help me get sound working on my gutsy 64 bit system?  I have a Soundblaster live card (I've tried several others as well) and so far as I can tell the sound system is up and running, but I get no output02:59
biovorelappy% md5sum /usr/bin/apt-get02:59
biovore831133ffe61cd4f97d02fbe61c3f20ec  /usr/bin/apt-get  -- x8602:59
biovoreSB Live should work..02:59
biovoreuse alsamixer from the command line..03:00
biovorethe sound setup is kinda funky in my opinion03:00
JahromeoSegmentation fault (core dumped) - apt get keeps throwing that out03:00
maltronbiovore: funky in a good way?03:00
Israphelwe are two03:00
kyled185maltron: I used to have a soundblaster card and everytime I installed a new linux distro it would default to be muted03:00
Israpheli don't think so03:00
biovoremaltron: funky in a bad way..03:00
biovoremaltron: all the sound drivers all homebrew affairs03:01
maltroni see...03:01
biovoremaltron: some cards work well others don't03:01
Dr_willisJahromeo,  i would sya ask in #ubuntu , someone in there may be better at trouble shooting apt problems.03:01
biovoreJahromeo: what the md5 check sum on /usr/bin/apt-get?03:01
maltronbiovore, kyled185: yeah, I've swapped cards a few times. NOrmally they just work though.  On this machine I used to get sound, but now nothing... bit confused.03:02
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP303:02
Dr_willisif youve swapped out sound cards. You may need to reconfogiure alsa to see/use the new card03:02
oloughlin75alsaconf might help whoever is having sound issues03:02
adrock358Dr_willis.  I'm back.  did you mean the video buffer?  the options are 1 and 8.03:02
maltronDr_willis: as in "sudo apt-get reconfigure alsa"?03:03
Dr_willisadrock358,  no idea. im just repeating what ive seen on the forums/threads. a lot of them are out of date.03:03
Dr_willismaltron,  that may be needed03:03
adrock358i'll check it out03:03
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP303:03
oloughlin75maltron: run sudo alsaconf from the konsole, too03:03
oloughlin75itll search for hardware and aply the driver03:04
maltronok, looks like I need to install some stuff... hang on...03:07
BluesKajmaltron, let's see if your soundcard is seen first of all: cat /proc/asound/cards03:07
maltronmaltron@keats:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards03:08
maltron 0 [V8237          ]: VIA8237 - VIA 823703:08
maltron                      VIA 8237 with AD1980 at 0x1000, irq 2203:08
maltron 1 [Live           ]: EMU10K1 - SBLive! Value [CT4832]03:08
maltron                      SBLive! Value [CT4832] (rev.8, serial:0x80271102) at 0xb800, irq 1803:08
maltronseems to be there03:08
maltronand recognised03:08
BluesKajlspci | grep audio ..to find the name03:08
maltron00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 08)03:09
BluesKajmaltron, asoundconf set-default-card "EMU10k1"03:10
Jahromeobiovre how do i check the md5checksum?03:13
maltronokay, so far no joy03:13
BluesKajmaltron, have done sound system setup in system settings /hardware03:14
biovoreJahromeo: md5sum /usr/bin/apt-get03:14
maltronBluesKaj: where exaclty do you mean?  Which menu?03:16
maltroni think I found the menu03:16
Jahromeobiovore htink unbutu channel solved my issue03:16
Jahromeo pkgcache.bin  srcpkgcache.bin03:16
Jahromeodeleted those03:16
BluesKajmaltron,k-menu/system settings/sound system/enable sound system,then choose hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture,click apply03:16
maltronBluesKaj: it's repeatedly restarting the sound system.  Gets to 90% then starts back at 5% and works upwards again03:18
maltronBluesKaj: it's in a loop03:18
BluesKajok, then just exit03:18
maltronoh hang on03:19
maltronit just worked then03:19
maltronmaybe because some software was installing03:19
maltronnow to test the sound03:19
maltronBluesKaj: okay, still nothing03:20
maltronalsaplayer gives me this message:03:20
maltronsnd_pcm_open: No such device (default)03:20
maltronFailed to initialize plugin!03:20
maltron"/usr/lib/alsaplayer/output/libalsa_out.so failed to load"03:20
BluesKajmaltron, whew , never seen a message like that before03:21
maltronBluesKaj: and that was just the tail!03:21
oloughlin75reinstall from source?03:22
BluesKajin the terminal type alsamixer03:22
maltronalsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device03:22
BluesKajmaltron, go on the internet and search for a linux driver for you soundblaster card03:23
maltronBluesKaj: well the modules seem to be loaded03:24
BluesKajthat's all I can suggest for now ...unless someone else has some ideas, cuz it looks like the driver isn't installed03:24
maltronBluesKaj: from lspci: snd_pcm                94344  5 snd_emu10k1,snd_via82xx,snd_via82xx_modem,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss03:25
maltronemu10k1 is my card!03:25
BluesKajyes and the driver looks like it' isn't installed03:26
maltronwell it comes up in lsmod... I thought that meant it was installed?  I'll check the internet anyway, but as far as I can tell the kernel modules are installed03:27
BluesKajif alsa doesn't see the driver , that no such device message usually comes up03:28
oloughlin75maltron: did you try doing alsaconf in terminal?03:28
maltronoloughlin75: you mean asoundconf03:28
oloughlin75no, alsaconf03:28
BluesKajalsaconf ?03:29
oloughlin75sudo alsaconf03:29
maltron-bash: alsaconf: command not found03:29
oloughlin75hmm, must be new to alsa 1.0.15/16?03:29
maltronI tried looking for it but couldn't find it in the repositories03:29
maltron I thought you must mean asoundconf03:29
oloughlin75ALSA CONFIGURATOR, it scans your hardware and looks for and isntalls the right driver03:30
maltronwhat package is it in?03:30
oloughlin75maltron: im guessing alsa-utils03:30
maltronalready installed, no such command03:31
oloughlin75must be from the newer version of alsa03:31
maltronoloughlin75: seems to have been removed from gutsy03:32
oloughlin75maltron: yes, i am reading the thread about it03:33
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Jahromeoremoved adept for synaptic03:34
Jahromeoso much less buggy03:34
Jahromeoand crash free03:34
oloughlin75maltron: Did you try reinstall alsa-driver alsa-lib and alsa-utils?03:35
maltronno, i'll give that a shot03:36
maltronI'm chekcing out a web page on sound in ubuntu that might help03:36
oloughlin75maltron: to reinstall,right click and mark them as reinstall in adept03:37
oloughlin75alsa-driver alsa-lib and alsa-utils03:38
maltronI''LL do it through apt-get03:38
maltronor not, because alsa-lib isn't a package...03:39
oloughlin75its called something different in the repos, sorry03:39
oloughlin75alsa-base is one03:39
oloughlin75is the other03:40
maltronwhat about libasound etc?03:41
oloughlin75i dont know03:41
oloughlin75you should only need to reinstal alsa-base and alsa-utils03:42
maltronok I've selected them anyway03:42
maltronwon't hurt03:42
oloughlin75alsa is a pain03:42
maltronyeah... although it's never been this painful before!03:43
maltronno, I lie - it was when it still had to be compiled from source and wasn't part of the kernel03:44
maltronI've reinstalled them03:44
maltronoloughlin75: still no sound03:45
oloughlin75try restarting03:45
oloughlin75so everything gets loaded fresh03:45
oloughlin75maltron: have you ever had sound with your sound card?03:46
maltronoloughlin75: with a previous card, yes, but this one was given to me by a friend, because I thought the old one must have been busted03:47
maltronI also have onboard sound which doesn't work03:47
oloughlin75whats the new card?03:47
maltron00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 0803:47
BluesKajSB cards are pretty std ...don't see why alsa doesn't see it03:47
maltronBluesKaj: could it be because the cards are conflicting?03:48
maltronThe machine came with a different sound card which seemed to work for a while03:48
juan_alguien habla español??03:48
oloughlin75!es | juan03:48
ubotujuan: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.03:48
maltronI think at the time I had problems with my headphones, so I thought it was the card and replaced it03:48
maltronheadphones were dodgy, so I solved that problem, but the sound hasn't really worked since03:49
BluesKajmaltron, 2 sound cards ?03:49
maltron1 onboard, 1 pci03:49
maltronthen I swapped the pci one for a different one, then I swapped it again for the SB03:49
BluesKajoh geez , whay didn't you say so ? BIOS has to be reset in Peripherals to disable one card , you make the choice03:50
tj__how would i switch compiz on and off i can't find the option03:50
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maltronBluesKaj: Sorry mate, I thought I did!03:51
maltronBluesKaj: thing is it came with two cards and worked when I first got it... okay, so reboot, go into bios and disable the onboard sound?  I do remember trying that a while back and couldn't find anything in the bios, but I'll give it another go03:52
maltronback in a minute03:52
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion03:52
BluesKajmaltron, can you do that , open the BIOS and disable the onboard (most Likely)03:52
maltronwill do03:52
maltronback in a couple of minutes03:52
tj__i have it installed i just want to switch it off when i go to play a game03:53
BluesKajmaltron," peripherals " in the BIOS03:53
tj__and does anyone know where the mic settings are03:53
BluesKajalsamixer , then kmix03:54
tj__just type in cli?03:54
BluesKajalsamixer yes03:54
BluesKajkmix is the little speaker icon in the panel03:55
tj__ok alsamixer is up what do i do03:55
BluesKajunmute any ctrls with the M key , then use the uo arrow key to increase the volume to 71 or so03:56
BluesKajup arrow03:56
BluesKajunmute = 00\03:57
maltronBluesKaj: sorry, was rebooting03:57
maltronI disabled onboard sound03:57
BluesKajmaltron, did you find the peripherals ?03:57
maltronno, just onboard sound, and I disabled it03:57
maltronit was in the "onboard devices" menu03:58
BluesKajnow run cat /proc/asound/cards03:58
maltronstill getting two sound cards03:58
maltronlemme try again03:59
maltronI'll be back in a couple of minutes.  Rebooting again!03:59
oloughlin75maltron: it might be easiest to just compile from source03:59
maltronhmm, not keen on that route.  Alsa and source code is painful!  Plus, I know it worked once upon a time, so I'd like to fix it.  I'm sure it can be done...04:00
tj__ok my mic works but  not in teamspeak and i hear a echo of everything04:02
Liono_wine.. and virtualisation? any other method used to play non native linux games?04:03
tj__even typeing its kinda cool04:03
tj__liono- cedega04:03
hydrogencedega is wine04:04
hydrogenpretty much04:04
tj__yeah true but its tweaked to run games better u can get it free off thepiratebay.org04:04
ubotupiracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o04:05
tj__they ripped off wine and used their code iots not piracy04:06
BluesKajoloughlin75, you should direct the post to tj__04:06
maltronoloughlin75, BluesKaj: okay, I have sound.04:06
maltronoloughlin75, BluesKaj: strangely alsaplayer doesn't work still04:07
maltronsame error message as before04:07
maltronbut mplayer works04:07
Dr_williscedega is legal.. thepiratebay - is questionable.. :)04:07
tj__got my mic working thanks and no echo04:07
BluesKajalsaplayer is iffy , stick with amarok04:07
maltronBluesKaj: yeah, cool.  Just thought it should work with alsa!04:07
tj__thanks good doctor04:07
adrock358Dr_willis.  The solution was to install start-up manager, and fix my screen resolution.04:07
oloughlin75maltron: sound isnt enough for you?! :D04:08
BluesKajmaltron, alsa is still being used with amarok04:08
Daisuke_Idoand getting cedega from the pirate bay is not legal.04:08
adrock358Does anyone know what the best streaming media prog is?04:08
Daisuke_Idoand supporting cedega is not right.04:08
maltronBluesKaj: yeah, amarok works.  I mean I guess that I thought alsaplayer would have been the ideal tool to test alsa, but I guess not!04:08
maltron BluesKaj, oloughlin: thanks heaps guys, I really appreciate it04:08
oloughlin75maltron: just dont break it!04:09
maltronno worries04:09
maltronI'll keep that in mind!04:09
BluesKajyeah maltron , very few ppl use the alsaplayer04:09
BluesKajwell folks , it's off to the sack time04:09
oloughlin75what -is- alsaplayer?04:09
maltrongood night04:09
BluesKajnite  all04:09
maltronoloughlin75: alsaplayer is a redundant program which clearly nobody should ever use because it doesn't actually work!04:10
oloughlin75alrighty -- i dont think i have it on my system anyway04:10
maltroni installed it I think just a few minutes ago, as I thought, given that it's an alsa program, that it would be useful04:11
maltronactually it isn't!04:11
adrock358streaming media players anyone?  i installed vlc, but it won't play from this one site.  I'll have to look into that.04:11
oloughlin75adrock358: try the mplayer mozilla plugin04:11
oloughlin75!find mplayer mozzila04:12
ubotuFound: kmplayer-base, kmplayer-konq-plugins, kmplayer, kmplayer-doc, python-templayer (and 12 others)04:12
WhereAmI_1TB sata 16MB cache hard drive 230$ at best buy04:12
oloughlin75!find mplayer mozilla04:12
oloughlin75WhereAmI_:  werent they like $500 a few months ago?04:13
WhereAmI_320$ still on the official site04:13
WhereAmI_gotta love technology04:13
WhereAmI_but this is the cheapest one I've seen recently04:13
tj__how do i switch desktop manager from compiz04:14
oloughlin75tj__:  in termal type sudo metacity --replace &04:15
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oloughlin75tj__:  if that doesnt work it should be kwin --replace04:16
Jahromeohey guys what is compiz-fusion install called in kubuntu? is it kde-compiz?04:18
oloughlin75Jahromeo: you need more than that04:19
oloughlin75you need to gett all these commands:04:20
oloughlin75sudo apt-get install compiz-kde compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra04:20
oloughlin75compizconfig-settings-manager emerald librsvg2-common04:20
Jahromeoletting synaptic handle that for now04:20
oloughlin75alright -- compiz-kde :)04:20
Jahromeoummm how can i check what nvidiai drivers 7.10 install by default?04:21
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Jahromeois their a konsole command to see what video drives im running?04:22
oloughlin75the xorg.conf file will tell you04:23
oloughlin75kate /etc.X11.xorg.conf04:23
oloughlin75do NOT sudo it04:24
oloughlin75Jahromeo: yes04:24
oloughlin75no . in the begining04:24
htthCan anyone here help me compile a modem driver?04:24
Jahromeoits empty apparently oloughin04:25
oloughlin75hit alt+f204:25
oloughlin75and type in04:25
oloughlin75kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:25
oloughlin75the driver is under the device section04:25
oloughlin75Driver"nvidia" or "nv"04:26
Jahromeoit says nv04:26
Jahromeoi want to know what version04:27
oloughlin75oh, im not sure how to tel which version specifically04:27
biovorenv is the opensource driver.. nvidia is the closed source one from nvidia04:27
Jahromeoisnt there a driver version like pclinux has 100.xx and 169.xx04:27
biovoreits in nvidia-settings04:28
biovoreI think its also shows up in dmesg04:28
biovorethe nvidia driver from the repos I think is 169.xxx04:28
Jahromeowhere do i find nvidia settings?04:29
biovoreopen a shell04:29
biovoretype nvidia-settings04:29
biovorenot everything is in the gui04:29
Dr_willisThere is a gui program :) its just not in the menus04:29
Jahromeowhy is compiz not on a menu04:30
Dr_willisccsm is the compiz settings tool. Its not installed by default04:30
ubotuTo enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion04:30
Dr_willisThere is aso an optinal system-tray icon tool that lets you start/stop/tweak compiz04:30
Jahromeothough that compiz-kde or kde-compiz whatever it is woulda installed the manager04:31
Jahromeostupid it doesnt04:31
Jahromeobut thanks for help04:31
Dr_williscompiz is not considerd part of the kde stuff..04:31
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion04:31
biovorecompviz and kde don't mix all that well04:31
Dr_willisgives  the info on getting it going.04:32
oloughlin75biovore: they work alright04:32
Dr_williskde4 is not going to play nicely with compiz either. :)04:32
Dr_willisof course - some wouls say that compiz has been pushed out of the nest befor it was ready for primetime04:32
* Dr_willis mixxes his metaphores.04:32
Dr_willisJahromeo,  ccsm is not installed by default by ubuntu either. Its considerd a bit too complex04:33
Dr_willisi think there is a cleaned up ccsm in the works.04:33
Jahromeoweird pclinux u just dl compiz and its there04:33
Dr_willisgo use pclinux then04:33
Dr_willisThey are not related to ubuntu./kuubntu - so they can do whatever they want. :)04:33
Jahromeoheh i just came back from it - repos updates are too slow04:33
biovoreinstall ubuntu (gnome).. there by default04:33
oloughlin75Jahromeo:  pclinux is meant to be very very user friendly04:33
Jahromeoand its based on dying mandiva stuff04:34
Jahromeothats no longer being updated04:34
Jahromeoso no thanks :P04:34
Dr_willisHow much do you want to throw on a user.. and how much space do you have.. and what do you want to be the 'officiaally supported' bits.. is the big limitations04:34
Jahromeoif i already have a version of something will apt-get prompt for overwrite?04:35
oloughlin75is there an enlightenment installer for buntu?04:35
oloughlin75Jahromeo: it wont install it04:35
oloughlin75Jahromeo: itll just say up to day04:35
Dr_willisThere is enlightment for ubuntu, and theres the enligutment desktop spinoffs called 'gOS' and 'gebuntu' as well04:36
Jahromeok trying compiz on here to see if its any diff04:36
oloughlin75i installed gOS earlier and is pissed me off04:36
oloughlin75i liked the desktop though :/04:36
Dr_willisgOS is lacking in ways - as is gebuntu04:36
Dr_willisi dident even find the  desktop that much of an impreoivemnt04:36
oloughlin75i liked how it mixed fluxbox and gnome features04:37
Jahromeois there a wkthru for apt-get e.g. how to look for things in the cache i keep forgetting commands04:37
oloughlin75Jahromeo: man apt-get04:37
asdfasdi'm buying a video card--is nvidia still better for linux?04:38
Jahromeooooo man gives a manual of a command?04:38
Jahromeomore supported than ati yeah04:38
Jahromeoand officially supported better04:38
oloughlin75Jahromeo: man is quite useful :)04:38
biovoreyeah.. nvidia is the best.. followed by intel.. then ati04:38
asdfasdthanks, guys04:38
Dr_willisHmm.. fluxbox? it was using Enlightment  as far as i saw oloughlin7504:39
oloughlin75Dr_willis: no i mean enlightment had features of flux and gnome04:40
Dr_willisoloughlin75,  except that enlightment was around way way befor those 2 :)04:40
Dr_willisenlightment has an intereesting history.04:40
oloughlin75did it have the click for menu befor flux/blackbox?04:41
oloughlin75it would be nice to have the mac os x like bar with the effects that gos had04:41
Dr_willisenlightment has  gone through so many  reinventions its scary04:41
oloughlin75its on r17 i think now04:42
Dr_willisits the always-a-work-inprogress-windowmanager-thatgres-into-a-desktop04:42
oloughlin75is it installable? like enlightenment-desktop or something?04:42
Dr_willisNot noticed. parts are int he repos. but no -desktop package04:43
Dr_willisYou can set up the gos/gebuntu repos and isntall their stuff under ubuntu04:43
oloughlin75i could figure out how to install anything iin gos :/04:43
oloughlin75always missing -something-04:43
Dr_willisuse the package manager same as ubuntu :)04:43
oloughlin75ya but alsa in the repos is old and doesnt support my card04:44
Dr_willisalsa is always old. :)04:44
oloughlin75so i compile from source -- which i couldnt in gos04:44
oloughlin75didnt have kernal source04:44
Dr_willisnever noticed.. they are using ubuntu as the core. so you should of been able to.04:44
oloughlin75tried getting it and it kept failing04:44
Dr_willisi went the other way and installed ubuntu first.. then gebuntu/gos04:44
biovoregos has all that stuff.. it the ubuntu base + enligtenment.. uses the same repos I think..04:45
oloughlin75how do i get the enlightenment part?04:45
Dr_willis!find enlightment04:45
ubotuPackage/file enlightment does not exist in gutsy04:46
Dr_willisit was int he repos.. if i spel it right.04:46
Dr_willisgos/gebuntu uses a teweaked version04:46
oloughlin75thanks Dr_willis04:48
Dr_willisamazing what you find when you google. :)04:48
oloughlin75i found a different one lol04:49
oloughlin75oh i think compiz is messing up04:49
Dr_willisgos wont be using compiz :)04:50
oloughlin75what the remove command for compuz? sudo apt-get purge compiz*?04:52
Dr_willisi wouldent suggest removing it.04:52
Dr_willisit can cause other issues04:52
oloughlin75.......// boo04:53
Dr_willisgo ahead then..... have fun04:53
oloughlin75i dont remember if i set compiz to load on startup04:53
Dr_willisthat was an issue i had.. it still wanted to start even after it was removed...04:54
oloughlin75switching to gos brb :)04:54
Dr_willisubuntu/kubuntu some how rembered it04:54
oloughlin75hola :D04:56
adrock358do you guys know if you have to open ports for streaming media?04:57
Dr_willisthere shouldent be any closed ports by default04:57
oloughlin75adrock358: the mplayer mozilla plugin works well04:57
adrock358i don't know what i use,  but it works fine.  it's just kind of choppy.  but i'm on a wireless connection though04:58
adrock358do you have to open ports though for streaming?04:59
adrock358i'll try to edit firefox so it uses mplayer for streaming.  thank you oloughlin75.04:59
Jahromeodoes kubuntu have any form of vnc client/server installed by default05:00
oloughlin75Dr_willis: do you know what the gos launcher bar is called?05:00
Dr_willisI found gos lacking in other ways.. so i dumped it after about 2 hrs..05:01
oloughlin75eww it puts all the files on top of eachother05:01
Jahromeodr_willis was that a nope to vnc ?05:02
oloughlin75Dr_willis: i install the real one earlier today and dumped it05:02
Jahromeodoes kubuntu have any form of vnc client/server installed by default05:02
Dr_williskde and gnome both have a vnc client/server built in. :)05:02
Dr_willisor you can install others.05:02
wadI booted off the kubuntu 7.1 CD, did "apt-get install openssh-server", and now I'm trying to connect to the box with ssh. What's the default username and password? (The server is a pain to get to physically)05:02
Dr_williskrdc or somthing is the kde one.05:02
Jahromeothanks dr_willis - no tightvnc or such installed by default?05:03
Dr_williswad,  i imagine you need to get on the machine and set a password/username    the default user is 'ubuntu' but has no password. Not sure ssh will let the users in with no password05:04
Dr_willisJahromeo,  not by default - install tightvnc ifyou want.05:04
Dr_willisI tend to use vnc4server/viewer05:04
Dr_willisor kdes own kdrc05:04
wadDr_willis: okay, thanks.05:04
Jahromeocant find tightvnc05:06
Jahromeobut i can find server05:06
Jahromeoheh weird05:06
Dr_willis!find vnc05:06
ubotuFound: libvncserver-dev, xvnc4viewer, directvnc, libsvncpp-dev, libsvncpp0c2a (and 18 others)05:06
Dr_willis!find tightvnc05:06
ubotuFound: tightvncserver, xtightvncviewer, tightvnc-java05:06
Dr_willisI tend touse vnc4server05:07
Dr_willis!find vnc405:07
ubotuFound: xvnc4viewer, vnc4-common, vnc4server05:07
Jahromeoill try tightvnc first using it at work05:07
Jahromeothen ill try vncserver05:07
Jahromeowhats the diff between em?05:07
Jahromeowhere does kubuntu hide vnc in the menu?05:08
Dr_willisno idea.   thatw why i said the name of the command earlier. :005:09
Jahromeowhy dont alot of things auto get imported to menus?05:10
oloughlin75most gui things do05:11
Dr_willisi find the menus are getting way too cluttered as it is05:11
Dr_willishit alt-space and type a few letters05:11
biovoreyou can't do everything from a gui.. GUI components in linux are just option limited front ends to gui tools.05:12
Dr_williskatapult is fun05:12
biovoreits a nice fast simple calculator too :-P05:12
Jahromeonever seen katapult b405:12
sparrkatapult is one of those hidden features of kubuntu that no one ever discovers on their own, i think05:13
sparrit was a mystery to me for so long05:13
Jahromeotrying ur vnc , tightvnc sucks on this :(05:13
oloughlin75so what is it? :D05:13
sparrjust popping up "at random"05:13
sparrits a quick launcher, kinda like mac spotlight05:13
sparror quicksilver05:14
sparrbut less powerful05:14
Dr_williseven vista has a feature similer you can get. :)05:14
Jahromeohow come katapult doesnt find firefox05:14
Jahromeobut i have that installed05:14
oloughlin75it showed a splash and disappeared?05:14
sparrbecause its crap  :)05:14
Dr_willisif you installed firefox recently - i need to reread the menus/cache05:14
sparroloughlin75: you didnt type...05:14
Jahromeoso e.g. restart05:14
Dr_willisor logout..05:14
Dr_willisor reboot 1000000000000 times if you want.05:14
sparrkatapult is a poor imitation of quicksilver...  i wish there was a good file indexing service for linux05:14
oloughlin75sparr:  type what?05:14
sparrid love to have mac's spotlight functionality05:15
Dr_willisor do a song and dance and  then logout. :)05:15
sparroloughlin75: "e"05:15
Dr_willisi always disable indexing. :)05:15
Jahromeogoing to sleep thankls for help guys05:16
oloughlin75how do you get katapult to work?05:16
Dr_willishit alt-space05:16
Dr_willisi think by default05:16
Dr_willisassuming you dident enavle the 'windows compatiabilty' type layout/keyboard thing05:16
oloughlin75it shows a splash screen and disappears05:16
Dr_willistype some ltters05:17
Dr_willisalt-space, then k05:17
oloughlin75  thats so obscure05:17
eddyhi again, i already install the wireless driver with ndiswrapper, but when i try to make a iwlist scan or iwconfig the the system said "no wireless extension"05:24
eddywhat can i do05:25
oloughlin75sudo ndiswrapper -m05:25
oloughlin75then restart the computer05:26
eddyits only that, restart the computer05:26
WhereAmI_does anyone else have problems with amarok loading huge collections?05:26
WhereAmI_like it doesn't load them all?05:26
oloughlin75WhereAmI_: how big?05:26
oloughlin75about how many song?05:27
eddyits really to easy, ok see a05:27
WhereAmI_let me load it05:28
oloughlin75WhereAmI_:  is it more than like 20k songs?05:28
WhereAmI_well I got it to load them all05:28
WhereAmI_I think so05:28
oloughlin75you need to use mysql05:28
WhereAmI_I assume theres a guide online?05:28
oloughlin75ill get you a link05:28
oloughlin75the swlite that amarok uses by default is terrible with more than 10k songs05:29
charlieIs there a command to automatically fix permissons? mine are all messed up05:29
oloughlin75WhereAmI_: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/MySQL_HowTo05:30
WhereAmI_ok thanks05:31
oloughlin75first sudo apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client05:31
WhereAmI_then it should work awesomely?05:31
oloughlin75then read the mysql setup section05:31
oloughlin75then in amarok do setting > configure amarok > collection > set database to mysql and enter the info05:32
charlieIs there a command to automatically fix permissons? mine are all messed up05:32
oloughlin75charlie:  permissions on what?05:32
charlieIt seems the permissions are messed up everywhere05:33
Dr_willisgee... i would say NO.. :)05:33
Dr_willisheh heh05:33
oloughlin75what do you mean?05:33
Dr_willissince   theres a lot of didfferen tperms on different files..05:33
charlieNano warns me it can't access history an stuff05:33
Dr_willisbe more specific and we can try to help05:33
charlieand lynx gives me this05:33
charlieIs there a command to automatically fix permissons? mine are all messed up05:33
charlielynx gives me Can't Access `file://localhost/usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html'05:33
charlieAlert!: Unable to access document.05:33
Dr_willisYour users home dir, should be owned by them and all the files in there should be owned by them.05:33
oloughlin75charlie, you are a limited use for a reason05:33
charlieI assume permissions are screwed up05:33
oloughlin75its for your own proection05:34
charlieI'm the administrator...05:34
Dr_willistry 'nano /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html'05:34
NickPrestacharlie, you shouldn't be running as root.05:34
oloughlin75you really shouldnt05:34
Dr_willisif you want to alter system files. You need to do so with root permissions05:34
charlieWhat makes you think i'm running as root?05:34
charliei'm not running as root05:34
charlieI just tried to start lynx05:34
charliecharlie@ubuntu:~$ lynx05:35
charlieCan't Access `file://localhost/usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html'05:35
charlieAlert!: Unable to access document.05:35
charlielynx: Can't access startfile05:35
charlieAnd other programs have access errors too05:35
Dr_willisIm not sure that  your 'address/path' is correct  for what you are doing05:35
Dr_willislynx /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html05:35
charlieoh boy05:35
charlieI don't think you understand05:35
charlieALL i'm doing is running lynx05:35
charliethat's it05:35
charlieand i get that05:36
charlieMy permissions are messed up.05:36
Dr_willisyou are tyelling it a file.. but the path to that file is most likely NOT /localhost/usr05:36
Dr_willistry cat /localhost/usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html05:36
charlieoh my god05:36
charliei'm not trying to access that file05:36
WhereAmI_do you happen to know if the new amarok will do this better?05:36
Dr_willishttp://localhost/usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html  would be correct.05:37
e`DrAvEnhow do i restart sshd?05:37
charliee`DrAvEn: sudo invoke-rc.d ssh restart05:37
charliei think05:37
oloughlin75WhereAmI_: no, your only choice is to use mysql or postreql or whatever the other one is05:37
charliemight be openssh or something05:37
Dr_willis sudo /etc/init.d/ssh05:38
Dr_willis restart05:38
Dr_willisworks also.. oops 2 lines..05:38
e`DrAvEnthanx hope this works i was unable to connect and i think it's because i don't connect to the net until after sshd is already started05:39
e`DrAvEnhm no luck05:42
benjust got this kubuntu its awesome just waiting to download linux mce05:48
benanyone got linux mce05:48
Dr_willisnever used mce :) i tend to yse Mythtv05:48
benyeah read that too but just the video that goes with linux mce on google video was excellent05:48
benautomated light or ambience controls wow05:49
Dr_willisI uuse mythtv - because it can auto-zap the comercials out of the shows i record. :)05:50
benyeah so i have heard i have Windows MCE downstairs and showanalyzer dose that for me05:50
benor dragon one of them05:51
beni really only wants this linux mce to watch programs that i record05:51
benanyways just checking this program out have a good one05:52
music`freakanybody here can help me out with Amarok?05:52
oloughlin75music`freak: what about it?05:52
music`freakneed help regarding using my iPod with Amarok05:52
music`freakhow do i see all the videos on my iPod in Amarok?05:52
oloughlin75i dont have an ipod :/05:53
music`freaklike i can in iTunes?05:53
oloughlin75might not be able to because amarok is music only05:53
oloughlin75its doesnt play or support video05:53
music`freakany app. for converting Divx/other video formats into iPod video in Linux?05:53
Dr_willisavidmux can do that05:53
Dr_willis!info avidmux05:54
Dr_willisif i can spell it right05:54
ubotuPackage avidmux does not exist in gutsy05:54
Dr_willis!info avidemux05:54
ubotuavidemux (source: avidemux): a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.3.0-0.0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 3270 kB, installed size 8256 kB05:54
music`freakDr_willis:  is it GUI based?05:54
music`freakand does it have an option to convert to iPod video directly?05:54
Dr_willisI dont use an ipod.05:55
music`freakor do i need to mess around with resolutions/format/frame rates?05:55
Dr_willisI got a script made for it that converts to xvid cfor my player05:55
Dr_willisa few clicks.. and it converts.05:55
* music`freak don't know no scripting :/05:55
Dr_willisgotta love scriptable apps05:55
Dr_willisthen hit the avidmux foruims/sites and find one made.05:55
Dr_willisNot like ipod video covnersion would be a 'rare' thing fr someone to do. :)05:56
music`freakdo u have the forum link?05:56
music`freakany other apps. u think might help05:56
Dr_willisi use avidmux under windows and linux for all my converting needs05:57
music`freakthanks Dr_willis06:07
music`freaklater folks06:07
charlieDoes anyone know of a good SFTP/SCP Client? (linux)06:08
Dr_willisgnome and kde file managers can do ssh/sftp. then theres ssh/scp :)06:09
Dr_willisThen theres the fuse-ssh tools.06:09
Dr_willisDepends on your needs06:09
Dr_willisfish:// is the one for kde's file manager i belive.06:09
liz_'sup ppl, how can I get a different user to access the internet?06:27
unagidoes kopete hang alot for everyone else or just me06:30
Dr_willisliz_,  run the app as a different user. :)  depends on the details.06:39
Dr_willisI tend to install/use 'sux' to switch users.06:39
liz_thx Dr_willis, I tried that once and it asked if I used the sudo command..06:40
Dr_willisdepends on what you are running.06:40
Dr_willissudo/su/sux do similer tasks - but with different  reasons/bits. :)06:41
Dr_willis!info sux06:41
ubotusux (source: sux): wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-3.2 (gutsy), package size 8 kB, installed size 64 kB06:41
liz_kubuntu 6.0606:41
Dr_willisi would do a 'sux otheruser' then run the app.06:41
Dr_williswhat APP are you tryign to run anyway?06:41
liz_just trying  to access the internet under a different user06:42
Dr_willissux bgates06:43
Dr_willis:) there ya go...06:43
Dr_willisis one of proberly a dozen ways to do it.06:43
liz_so I have to install sux first? or already on 6.06 and do I run it in root or different user?06:44
Dr_willisusers can use sux. :)06:45
liz_cool, ok, thanks for the info Dr_willis, I'll try that and see how it turns out :-)06:46
tj__is there a good dock for kde07:06
tj__os X-ish07:07
Dr_willisi hate os-x type docs. :)07:07
Dr_willischeck the package manager - theres a few similer.07:07
Dr_willis!find docl07:08
ubotuFound: doclifter07:08
Dr_willis!find dock07:08
ubotuFound: docker, haddock, kdocker, knetdockapp, kooldock (and 3 others)07:08
tj__any suggestions07:08
Dr_willisI hate them all. :)07:08
tj__from someone that uses 107:08
Dr_willisThey all lack functionality that i get with the normal kde panel07:09
tj__yeah but i think it looks cooler :P07:09
Dr_willisgo get a screen shot of a OS-X desktop. and set it as your wallpaper for looks07:10
tj__i do know what u say is true07:10
tj__do they even support kiba-dock anymore07:10
Dr_willisI use dual monitors and a lot of these fancy docks just dont work well with them.07:10
Dr_willis!find kiba07:11
Dr_willisive heard of others using it.07:11
ubotuPackage/file kiba does not exist in gutsy07:11
tj__!find avn07:11
ubotuFile avn found in icedtea-java7-jre, j2re1.4, postgresql-8.1, sun-java5-jre, sun-java6-jre (and 1 others)07:11
tj__i'm trying to remember one i used a whjile back07:12
Dr_willisits avant-window-navagiator or somthing07:12
Dr_willisThat one had real issued with 2 screens07:12
Dr_willisand it requires compiz, or similer07:13
tj__i have compiz07:13
tj__i think i'll stick with the kde dock07:15
tj__!find avant07:15
ubotuFile avant found in wims-modules07:15
Dr_willisits not in the normal repos under gutsy07:16
Dr_willisit is going tobe  in the hardy repos. :)07:16
thechrishey, i'm having playback issues with wma files and wmv files07:28
thechrisany ideas on how to fix this (not trying to install wma/v)07:28
Daisuke_Idoyeah, go to 32 bit.  unless you have 4+gb ram, 64-bit isn't worth the headaches07:29
Daisuke_Idonormally that would be handled by w32codecs...  but it's not 32 anymore!07:30
Daisuke_Idoi apologize if i sound bitter07:30
thechrisi have 8G of ram07:31
thechristhough i'm planning to run 2 virtual computers on my computer07:31
thechrisso it probably works out07:32
biovoreI have had some luck with mplayer07:32
Daisuke_Idothen you have a valid reason to be using 64 bit :)07:33
Daisuke_Idoerm...  is there a build of VLC for 64-bit?07:33
WhereAmI_1TB hard drive for 230$07:34
Daisuke_IdoWhereAmI_: will you STOP spamming that f****** hard drive already?  anyone that cares knows about it, and the rest don't.07:34
thechrisi'll probably end up going with 32b kubunutu then for my desktop OS, and run a 64b server or such07:34
Daisuke_Idowelcome to the free market, the price starts high and falls as time goes on07:35
Daisuke_Idothat's how it works!07:35
thechristhat doens't seem like a terribly good deal07:35
WhereAmI_earlier I said something about it07:35
WhereAmI_now I posted a direct link07:35
thechrislast i had seen it was around 250 for 1T07:35
WhereAmI_[01:36] <shaggylaptop> i might get 207:36
WhereAmI_[01:37] <shaggylaptop> or 4 for my raid5 setup07:36
WhereAmI_[01:37] <shaggylaptop> you seen some with more than 16MB cache?07:36
WhereAmI_that guy liked it in a media center chat07:36
Daisuke_Idowell isn't that just lovely!  would you like a cookie?:07:36
Daisuke_Idotoo bad.07:37
WhereAmI_and I believe for the entire time I shall post this hard drive here every hour or so07:37
thechrisnow i want brownies07:37
WhereAmI_it was going to be the end after that link07:37
Daisuke_IdoWhereAmI_: that would be an extremely bad idea07:37
WhereAmI_but since you like it so much07:37
thechristhats fine by me07:37
Daisuke_Ido*i* can't do anything about it07:37
thechrisi can use /ignore if i care enough07:37
Daisuke_Idothechris: true07:37
thechrisits just a debate of how apathetic i get07:38
Daisuke_Idobut i'm sure there are ops floating around who get irritated by spam07:38
WhereAmI_just like I'm going to daisuke_Ido right now07:38
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WhereAmI_don't need to listen to some idiot that has had a bad day07:38
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Daisuke_Idoi don't need to deal with spam, welcome to ignore!07:38
WhereAmI_showing people a deal, besides most of the time people aren't around 24/7 in an IRC and see two little posts07:39
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dallasbi just downloaded kubuntu and i finally got a wireless connection but i cant pull up any websites anyone know what the problem might be?07:40
dallasbirc works just fine obviously but no internet07:40
Daisuke_Idodallasb: using konqueror?07:40
Daisuke_Idotry installing firefox, just to see if that works.  if so, it's a konqueror issue, if not, it's a little more widespread.  i've seen both07:41
Dr_willisI recall seeing many others with an identical issue.. but i never was able to figure out what the fix was. :)07:41
Dr_willisI though it was somting tiodo with the kde/konqueror proxy settings07:41
Daisuke_IdoDr_willis: same here07:42
ForgeAusgreat 266 ppl on a channel and nobody responds :(07:42
ForgeAusnot here I meant in #Windows07:42
dallasbok, im d/l it now07:42
thechristhats illegal07:42
ForgeAuswhats illegal?07:42
dallasbso is konqueror not a very good browser?07:42
Dr_willisit id 3 am :)07:43
Dr_willisi use firefox or opera07:43
ForgeAusdallasb konqueror is great but its browsing isn't at firefox standards07:43
thechrisi was just kidding.  #windows ; i'm dl'n it ; ...07:43
dallasbahh, i use ff with windows and i love it07:43
Daisuke_Idodallasb: it's a good browser07:43
dallasbfor sure07:43
ForgeAusI'd agree with Daisuke on that :)07:44
dallasbhave you used swiftfox?07:44
Daisuke_Idono, konqueror07:44
ForgeAusits also a wonderful file manager :)07:44
Daisuke_Idooh, wait a tick..  how are you downloading ff?07:44
ForgeAusdallasb easiest way to install firefox is apt-get install firefox07:44
dallasbthats what im doing :)07:44
ForgeAusswiftfox is just a customized version07:44
dallasbor did07:44
ForgeAusyou get to tailor it for your CPU specifically, etc...07:45
dallasbit was an issue with konqueror07:45
dallasbmy connection is pretty slow though...07:46
dallasboh well07:46
Daisuke_Idohrm...  i was going to walk him through fixing the konqueror problem :\07:48
walmikhi all... i want to configure a dlink router which is on xp so that i can get internet on this amd64 laptop to access internet or the network. can anybody pls help...07:57
walmikthis laptop has kubuntu07:57
walmikthe wireless is configured on kubuntu(i think) and i have a direct cable plugged into xp07:58
walmikmefisto__: hi there... r u around07:58
ergeHas anyone managed to get eciadsl working in gutsy?08:00
DreadKnightdoes anyone have experience with A records? pls let me know so we can talk privately, need a bit of help pls08:17
LynoureDreadKnight: Yes, but I only do free support on the channel08:19
DreadKnightLynoure: just a second to see if this guy can help me, other wise we should join the ubuntu-offtopic channel08:20
LynoureDreadKnight: I'm on #kubuntu-offtopic already08:20
DreadKnightLynoure: good :)08:20
tj__so when i add a program such as open arena where would it be located on the drive08:36
ForgeAusgcc 3.3 is not good right?08:40
thumperForgeAus: compared to what?08:44
ForgeAuswell I'm installing Services for Unix 3.5 (ie interix) under my windows08:44
thumperForgeAus: and this relates to kubuntu how08:46
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jussi01hi francky1608:50
francky16hey there justckeckin this chanel out !!08:52
jussi01francky16: great. if you just want to chat, you can also join #kubuntu-offtopic (as this is for support) :D08:53
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:56
francky16okay  thanks !! jussi0108:58
Daisuke_Idothumper: it relates plenty, it will allow him to access NFS shares from windows09:01
Daisuke_Idoand skip the horrible pile of steaming somnrothers that is samba09:01
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kyled185I take offense to that09:26
gold44how to erase cdrw disk?09:34
Dr_willisk3b has a tool for that i think09:37
gold44Dr_willis: i used k3b, it did not work09:38
plantainHey, items from my panel are randomly not in my panel when I reboot (although they still spawn, but in a little window in the top left of my screen), what could be wrong?09:38
gold44it's a VCD, when i popped it in, i dont see a cdrom ico n on desktop09:38
Dr_willisif you erased it...   im not sure it will make an icon on the desktop09:39
Dr_willisif you erased it. :) its no longer a vcd.09:39
gold44Dr_willis: no, when i pop cdrw into drive, icon did not come out09:39
gold44i think an app is using the cdrom09:40
gold44and that is preventing me to erase the disk09:40
Dr_willisNormsally if somting is accessing the cd. it wont let it get ejected.09:40
Dr_williscould just logout to make sure nothingis accessing it.09:40
Dr_willisor check mount command09:41
gold44how to tell totem not to auto start when i pop cd into cdrom?09:41
jussi01gold44: are you running ubuntu or kubuntu?09:43
gold44jussi01: ubuntu09:44
jussi01gold44: you need to be asking in #ubuntu then :)09:45
gold44i did, no luck09:46
jussi01gold44: most people here are not going tobe able to help, as the is kubuntu support. try again in #ubuntu09:46
c1|freakywhat is a good and easy-to-use translation tool? i just need to translate a word some times?09:54
jussi01c1|freaky: check out this article http://www.linux.com/feature/4353909:57
c1|freakyok, thank you :)09:57
jussi01ahhh, oops, not really what you are after09:58
ProudGuys how to uninstall gnome and with all of it's applications?09:58
jussi01Proud: so you have only kde?09:58
jussi01!purekde | Proud09:58
ubotuProud: purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »09:58
ProudYes, I have Kubuntu. Then I've installed GNOME (just to try) but do not like it at all09:59
Kohlrabi"purekde is if you want to remove all (not)GNOME packages and have a default (not)Kubuntu [...]"?10:00
jussi01Kohlrabi: is that what you see?10:02
KohlrabiI see "!"10:03
KohlrabiProbably dnote that you can ask the bot about it?10:03
sraviI have HP Pavilion dv6775us. The trackpad enable/disable key generates XF86Lauch0 key and causes khelpcenter to open. Does anyone know how to disable this?10:03
jussi01Kohlrabi: yes, thats correct10:04
pteaguei'm having issues with the computer locking up... i finally switched to a tty & waited for it to crash again & got the following - http://pastebin.com/m657e3319 - any ideas?10:05
jussi01!shortcuts | sravi10:05
ubotusravi: keyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts10:05
sraviubotu: thanks, i will check this.10:05
jussi01!tanks | sravi10:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tanks - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:06
jussi01!thanks | sravi10:06
ubotusravi: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)10:06
pteaguei turned off swap & i'm still getting my 2nd screen full of errors again10:09
jussi01pteague: I dont know what advice you have been given, but turning off swap does not usually help much.10:11
toxop1asmaquestion: what's better these days, VIA or nvidia chipsets? for linux, i mean10:16
jussi01toxop1asma: nvidia has a lot of support10:17
marzenaHello, I've got a problem. I ve read hear:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/Lenovo3000N200_0769B2G, to use sth like: "To get your keyboard controls working, go to Sound Preferences and under Devices -> Default Mixer track -> Device, choose "HDA Intel (Alsa mixer)". Then choose "PCM" in the list below." But I cannot find this10:18
jussi01marzena: I assume you have a intelhda card?10:19
marzenathe question: Is it posible that I have to install some additional packahes?10:19
jussi01!intelhda | marzena10:19
ubotumarzena: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto10:19
marzenajest intel-hda10:19
toxop1asmajussi01: thanks; i'll just go with nvidia then.10:20
jussi01!hardware | toxop1asma10:20
ubotutoxop1asma: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection10:20
marzenaThe car is working properly, but I can't use the keys near the keybord to mute10:20
jussi01toxop1asma: always good to look a that list10:21
toxop1asmajussi01: neither of the mobos i was looking at is there. does it mean they won't work?10:23
pteaguejussi01> the suggestion was given i think based on the fact that kswapd was listed in the output10:25
jussi01toxop1asma: no, that isnt an exauhastive list10:25
toxop1asmai googled, and found this http://hardware4linux.info/component/18319/ it seems i'm not not assed out as long as i use something that's not ubuntu10:26
toxop1asmathat should have been just one "not"10:27
Jado`hi there, i have problem when installing my broadcom 43xx on kubuntu10:28
Jado`anyone for help ?10:29
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lukas__ist da draußen jdm10:43
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Dr_willisJado`,  the resticted-manager tool installed the drivers i needed for my 43xx card.10:53
Jado`Dr_willis do you know how to install the "software sources" ?11:03
Jado`or someone else ?11:03
Dr_willisenable all the repos with the package manager toom11:06
holaDr_willis: do you know gnome11:08
Dr_willisI use gnome at times. :)11:08
holaDr_willis: i would like to tell to gnome do not ask me user and password when it start and enter so dirtly in the environment....in kde i know how to do that11:09
Dr_willisgdm has a auto login option as well I belive.11:10
Dr_willisYou could set up kdm to auto login also  and have it start up gnome.11:10
holasorry, what is gdm11:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gdm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:11
jpatrick!info gdm11:11
Dr_willisthe gnome login manager = gdm, kdm = kde login manager11:11
ubotugdm (source: gdm): GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.20.1-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1822 kB, installed size 15400 kB11:11
holaDr_willis: ok i dont know how to do that but i will try to find aorund11:12
Dr_willishow are you doing it in kde? You use the kdm config tool to enable auto logging in. - You can just set the default desktop to be gnome if you want to start gnome and still use kde's kdm11:13
holaDr_willis: ahhh  ok...... but if i use ubuntu standalone it is not possibile, or im worng11:14
Dr_willisstandalone? GDM has autologing features also if you are just using gnome.11:14
holaDr_willis: do you know hot to find them11:15
Dr_willisyou might have to edit the gdmrc config file. Not sure if the gdm gui config tool has auto login settings in it or not.\11:15
Dr_willis!find gdm11:15
ubotuFound: feisty-gdm-themes, blubuntu-gdm-theme, edgy-gdm-themes, gdm-themes, gdmap (and 5 others)11:15
Dr_willischeck out the gdm theme manager tool i guess.  :) not sure what its called or  if its isntalled by default.11:15
holaDr_willis: thanks a lot11:15
holaDr_willis: bye11:16
Jado`how can i install "software sources" on kubuntu ?11:20
add616kubuntu is support beryl?11:20
ubotuBeryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz11:20
Dr_willisuse compiz instead11:20
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion11:20
Jado`how can i install "software sources" on kubuntu ?11:21
add616how i can run this through console terminal11:22
ubotusource-o-matic is not available anymore, please use Software Sources (in your Applications / K menu) to configure your repositories. Do NOT enable "Proposed updates" unless you're willing to test possibly seriously flawed packages.11:22
Dr_willisSoftware Sources (in your Applications / K menu) to configure your repositories.11:22
pteagueok, any idea why i can get the 64bit live cd version to run for over 25 minutes running top with no problems, but the installed 64bit version locks up running top?11:22
Dr_willisadd616,  read the !compiz factoid web site and isntall the proper packages to enable compiz11:23
Jado`Dr_willis i can't find it11:23
Dr_willisi just manually edit my  /etc/apt/sources.list or use synaptic, or adept to enable all the extra repositories.11:24
Jado`what should i do with my sources.list ?11:24
Dr_willisshows how to enable all the different repositories (sources)11:26
Jado`i don't have internet on the pc with the problem :/11:26
add616i am using kubuntu not ubuntu11:26
Dr_willisadd616,   that posted !compiz url told how to enable compiz on kubuntu last i looked at it.11:27
Apocalypse_dnHi! how it's going?11:27
Jado`so, Dr_willis ?11:28
romunovi followed this tutorial to install compiz: http://forlong.blogage.de/article/2007/8/29/How-to-install-Compiz-Fusion-on-Ubuntu-Feisty---tutorial-for-advanced-andor-KDE-as-well-as-Xfce-users11:29
Dr_willisJado`,  if you dont have any internet then things get a bit harder.   Wnat are you wanting toinstall anyway? theres some 'aptoncd' commands out. but i never used them11:29
Dr_willisMay be easier to plug the thing in wired somewhere, and isntall whatever you need first.11:29
Jado`i can't plug this doesn't work either : /11:30
Dr_willisif wired networking is not working.. thats very weird.11:30
romunovyou can acces the sources.list by "nano /etc/apt/sources.list"11:30
Jado`yes but what should i do with my sources.list ?11:30
Dr_williswont do much good to worry about sources if you have no networking  :)11:30
Jado`it's working but i can't make it work Dr_willis11:30
Jado`i want to install driver for broadcom 43xx but i have this error : "the sofware source for the package "bcm43xx-fwcutter" is not enabled"11:31
Jado`so i want to enable "sofware source for the package"11:31
romunovyou need to get the url for the repository11:31
Dr_willisJado`,   'software source' = the repository.11:31
Dr_willisits not a 'thing' you download. its a  site/url/server you enable to allow iit to download the needed files.11:31
add616what the function of terminal console11:32
romunovyou need  to google for the repository link for that particular package and copy that link into the sources.list11:32
Dr_willisadd616,  huh?11:32
add616if posible to acces terminal console11:32
Jado`so i need to make function my wired connection ?11:32
Dr_willis Theres the konsole terminal, and  then theres the consoles add616  - for all your command line needs.11:32
Jado`i'll be back11:33
Dr_willisJado`,  that would make things much easier.11:33
add616for now i am downloading in repositories11:34
add616what anti virus to install in kubuntu11:35
stdin!virus | add61611:35
ubotuadd616: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2111:35
ubotuantivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus11:36
add616is safe to used ubuntu?11:38
Dr_willisas safe as anything else is in this world... :)11:39
stdinLinus is not prone to viruses like other OS's are, it's just not a real problem for us11:39
knowbotyes, cool he11:39
add616how to configure network sharing in windows xp11:40
add616using ubuntu linux11:40
JadoDr_willis i plugged a network cable, and i "automatically" configure it, but Konquerors says "an error occurred while loading http://www.google.fr/11:40
Dr_willis read up on internet sharing in the XP help docs/ (f1)  I forget what they call it.11:40
knowbotin windows i hate the scenners, now i don't need them annymore :)11:40
Dr_willisJado,  but irc is working on that machine?11:40
add616i mean in ubuntu linux11:41
add616not in xp11:41
Jadono it's not the same machine ^^11:41
add616sharing files to xp using ubuntu machine11:41
Dr_willisthats not internet connection shareing then. :)11:41
Dr_willisthats setting up samba/shares11:41
ubotuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.11:41
Dr_willistheres a kde front end to confgure samba also. Not sure if its installed by default.11:42
Jadowhen i go to network setting, i can see that there is no "ip address" in front off eth1 (which my eternet connection")11:42
Dr_willisJado,  on my machines eth0 is the wired network, eth1 is the wireless.11:42
Dr_willisJado,  see what 'sudo ifconfig' says11:43
Jadofor me eth0 is wireless and eth1 ethernet11:43
Dr_willisBut i touhgt wireless wasent working...11:43
Jadoyes it is disabled, and i can't enable it11:44
Dr_willis it may be your router is not giving out proper ip#'s or the dhcp server on it is off.  or you got it set to use a static ip. on the wired network thats not correct.11:44
Jadoi try to configure manually ?11:44
Dr_willisif you dont even have an ip# for the interface - you need to reconfigure it.11:45
Dr_willisor just enable dhcp and let it get a ip11:45
Dr_willisThen try pinging google.com with (ping google.com) and also (ping
Jadodhcp is enabled, because i can talk to you with this machine which is configured by dhcp11:45
Jadosudo ifconfig gives me 2 paragraph (one with eth1, the other with lo)11:46
Jadogoogle is responding11:46
Jadohow do i stop the ping ?11:46
compihowzit everyone.... How do i install "wine" on Kubuntu 7.1????????????11:47
Dr_willissame as ya install anything else.. with the package manager.11:47
Dr_willis!info wine11:47
ubotuwine (source: wine): Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.46-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 33097 kB, installed size 103228 kB11:47
Dr_willispackage name is wine11:47
RomanRudenkoI want to try out kubuntu on a VMWare virtual machine and move it over to be the real OS if I like it. Would I have any trouble later on if I stick to using SCSI emulated drive in VMWare (default)?11:47
tomazhow do I change the path for every user that logs on the system?11:48
RomanRudenkoOr should I switch to IDE for that?11:48
Dr_willisRomanRudenko,  you proberly dont want to 'move' the installed system from the vmware hd to a real hd. there may be a lot of little issues.11:48
tomazI mean, the $PATH11:48
compii am not able to install via add/ remove programs as it is not on the list!!!11:48
Dr_willisdefault path is set in /etc/profile I thought.11:48
Dr_williscompi,  enable the extra repositories   its in the 'universe' repository11:48
tomazetc/profile is read every time that i log in?11:48
RomanRudenkoDr_willis: What kind of issues can I expect?11:49
JadoDr_willis, ping to google is working, but http://www.google.fr on Konqueror isn't11:49
compiDr_willis... how do i do that???11:49
Dr_willisRomanRudenko,  at the least  your UUID's in  the grub menus and fstab will be wrong most likely11:49
compithanks... having a look now....11:50
Dr_willisuse Software Sources (in your Applications / K menu) to configure your repositories. is one way also11:50
Dr_willisadept/synaptic and that add/remove programs also have some check box's somewhere to enable them11:50
add616how can activate samba11:51
Dr_willisJado,  try the package manager adept to  update/upgrade the system  see if that works..if so you can then install extra packages.11:51
Dr_willis!samba | add11:51
ubotuadd: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.11:51
RomanRudenkoDr_willis: So a one-off configuration change? That does not sound too bad. Would there be something more crazy to deal with (e.g. modules installed to match the initial virtual hardware, and no autodetection to switch over once installed on new hardware)?11:51
Dr_willis!info samba11:51
ubotusamba (source: samba): a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.3 (gutsy), package size 3751 kB, installed size 9212 kB11:51
JadoDr_willis, ping to google is working, but http://www.google.fr on Konqueror isn't11:52
RomanRudenkoOr this is the kind of crazy thing where only experimenting would give the answer?11:52
Dr_willisRomanRudenko,  plus all the hardware will be totally different. :) not sure how that will affect the sound, and other things.11:52
tomazworked, thanks11:52
Dr_willisRomanRudenko,  id just  do a clean isntall to the real hd. and copy over the needed config files from the virtual install.11:52
add616if possible that windows application can run on ubuntu11:52
add616like ms office, etc...11:53
Dr_willisadd616,  Huh? what does window sapplications have to do with samba?11:53
Dr_williswine can run a lot of windows apps..  but i rarely use it.11:53
Dr_willisHmm.. That repo url-  has not been updated for gutsy.11:54
JadoDr_willis, any idea for me ?11:55
Dr_willisJado,   did the update/upgrade work yet?   it may be that konqueror is just confused. if the package manager is able to see the internet and  download stuff. then you should be avble to enable the extra repos. and install whatever extra drivers you need.11:56
Dr_willisactrually  the restricted-manager tool can proberly auto download them if the network is working11:57
add616compiz is not working11:57
add616how can enable compiz11:57
Dr_willis add616  for starters if ysing nvidia card - you need to install the nvidia drivers.11:57
Jadoi have the same problem from the restricted manager, although ping is working11:58
Jadowhat should i add on the sources.list ?11:58
Dr_willisJado,  fire up adept and use its manage sources feature. to enable the universe and multiverse and other sources11:59
Dr_willisrepository = source :)12:00
add616i completed download in reprisotory, my problem how can activate compiz12:00
Dr_willisadept manager - > adept  menu  -> manage reposiutories.  check all the  different  ones, main, universe, restricted, multiverse and so on.12:01
Dr_willisadd616,   you installed everything that !compiz guide told you?12:01
jeka_hi all12:02
jeka_i go on Kubuntu12:03
JadoDr_willis, i just installed kubuntu, i don't know what to do, i opened adept, what next ?12:03
jeka_i want a legal soft12:03
jpatrickjeka_: legal soft?12:03
jeka_yes =)12:04
jeka_no cracks, keygens12:04
Dr_willistry being a little more clear.12:04
Dr_willisYou normally dont need to pirate stuff for linux12:04
Jadoyes it's what he told12:04
JadoDr_willis i just opened adept, what shoud i do next ?12:05
Dr_willisjado     adept manager - > adept  menu  -> manage reposiutories.  check all the  different  ones, main, universe, restricted, multiverse and so on.12:05
jeka_is IRC on Russian?12:05
ubotuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke12:05
jeka_i bad speak on english12:05
Apocalypse_dnjeka_, where are you from&12:05
Apocalypse_dnsorry fo russian12:06
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jpatrick!enter | Apocalypse_dn12:06
ubotuApocalypse_dn: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!12:06
Apocalypse_dnjpatrick, ok, sorry again))12:07
JadoDr_willis all that were already checked12:11
JadoDr_willis there were nothing more to check12:14
Dr_willisi would update, then upgrade, then try installing whatever it was you were wanting to install again.12:14
Dr_willisnight all - its bed time here.12:18
shadows22excellent boulot...12:20
shadows22salutation! / hi all12:20
Jadosalut ^^12:21
shadows22Ya t il un utilisateur confirmé... qui puisse me dire comment configurer Konversation ... pour Orange? ( irc.voila.fr )12:22
stdin!fr | shadows2212:23
ubotushadows22: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:23
compi_DR_willis.... Many thanks... I came right with installing wine!!!!  tnx....12:23
shadows22ha thx! =)12:23
wsjuniorIs "Administrator mode" of KControl supposed to work?12:24
stdinKConfrol or System Settings?12:25
wsjuniorI think I need to change something to make it work, but I don't know what12:25
wsjuniorstdin: Both12:25
stdinin what release?12:25
wsjuniorIt seems it's a problem with kdesu and sudo12:25
wsjuniorI saw some bug reports without solution12:25
stdinhmm, can you start one from konsole and post the output to pastebin?12:25
wsjuniorYes, sure. Hold on.12:26
Sbucatkaboooom :) hello12:27
wsjuniorstdin: http://rafb.net/p/yBVeua81.html12:28
add616are u familiar with valahalla linux12:28
wsjuniorThis is what i got starting systemsettings and pressing "Administrator mode" button12:28
add616my database program is using valahalla12:28
wsjuniorstdin: It asked for the root password and went back to the same screen after a quick refresh of the window12:30
stdinwsjunior: does this happen every time or just sometimes? ie: does it still happen after a logout/in or a reboot?12:30
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ThecksHey - I'm on the Live CD, wiped my old install with QTParted and I'm trying to install via the install program.12:33
wsjuniorstdin: Just after using sudo12:33
ThecksHowever, it gets to step three and after I click next, it checks the HDD and then just stops.12:33
ThecksStep 3 is choosing your keyboard layout.12:34
stdinwsjunior: does sudo have the same symptoms,  fails after one use on the command line?12:35
ThecksNobody? This is kind of a show stopper for me :(12:37
RomanRudenkoHow do I rotate a screen in kubuntu?12:37
SAngeliHi, is it possible to know why anytime I update my system, I get this error with system crash? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56350/  any advice please?12:38
pteagueThecks> what kind of hard drive?12:40
gundam_rx78nt1has anybody had any problems with that big update to kde from last week?12:41
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Theckspteague: I think I've got it :)12:42
ThecksI'll let cha know12:42
ThecksI restarted and now QTParted is letting me create partitions, hopefully then it will be recognized by the installer :)12:42
gundam_rx78nt1I would like to know if it is safe to perform the update.12:43
SAngeliHi, is it possible to know why anytime I update my system, I get this error with system crash? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56350/  any advice please?12:43
pteagueseems like your missing debugging symbols, but i wouldn't know why12:45
SAngelipteague: any advice how to at least fix this?12:46
SAngelipteague: it is not a nice feeling seeing yon your pc this error12:46
pteagueSAngeli> have you tried reinstalling?  what version did you initially install from?12:47
SAngeliI installed few weeks ago and it is 7.10 latest from cd12:48
SAngeliIt would be not nice to reinstall what already has been istalled12:48
SAngeliperhaps, it should be fixed by knowing which files to reinstall12:48
SAngelibut I do not know which ones12:49
PendetaIs it possible to configure 2 monitors from the LiveCD? Connect to the Internet? View files on a NTFS?12:50
pteaguei know when you run aptitude or apt-get search from the terminal it will tell you whether something is installed or not & whether there is a conflict with something... not sure how to do a search for everything though12:50
sylvain-frHi all12:50
pteaguePendeta> by default the live cd pulls up both my monitors, but in a mirrored view, i haven't tried configuring past there12:51
RomanRudenkoLet me bother you again. How do I rotate the monitor in 7.10?12:51
sev_how many people here?12:52
jussi01 /names12:52
Pendetapteague, can you connect to the Internet?12:52
pteaguePendeta> yep12:52
sylvain-frI search how to disable some buttons on the stop menu (hibernate, turn off, restart...)12:53
Pendetapeteague, can you mount NTFS file system?12:54
pteaguePendeta> kind of depends on what drivers your lan card requires...  a couple of my computers used to have issues as the drivers for their lan card weren't on the install cd... i've not had issues with my 2 desktops or my laptop12:55
pteaguePendeta> i can mount it after i've installed... i've not tried off the live cd12:55
pteaguePendeta> if you're wanting to just mess around with it & not wanting to mess up your windows install... i'd suggest downloading vmware server or virtualbox for windows (both free) & install (k|x)?ubuntu under that12:56
Pendetapteague, I really want to install to duel boot. Problem is that I created a nightmare for myself by installing XP on a fake raid 0+1; I don't know if ubuntu can be installed on that or not.13:01
pteague0+1 is striped & mirrored ?13:02
Pendeta4 hard drives.13:03
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PendetaI've not been able to find any docs about raid 0+1 and ubuntu.13:04
jlr4un Nautilus I could right click on the desktop and access my shell scripts at .gnome2/nautilus-script.13:04
pteaguePendeta> that's the reason i put together a file server...  i'm not sure that you're going to be able to get win raid to work with linux & vice versa13:04
jlr4uHow can I add functionality to the desktop right-click in Kubuntu?13:05
PendetaWhat is a file server?13:06
Jadoanyone knows why i can ping websites but not connect to internet ?13:06
pteaguea separate box that's not used as a desktop13:06
pteaguePendeta> http://www.google.com/search?q=fileserver13:08
LynoureJado: if you can ping websites, you _are_ connected to internet... so what do you mean?13:08
Pendetapteague, thanks. I'll read that.13:08
pteaguei use mine for storing files, my subversion repositories, & my test server for web development13:09
JadoLynoure i mean i can't connect to website by konqueror for example13:09
LynoureJado: Any firewalling at play? what happens if you try a) with an ip?  b) telnet www.google.com 80 ?13:10
ForgeAushey Lynoure :)13:10
ForgeAushehe telnet google?13:10
Jadoi tried ping www.google.fr13:10
Jadoand it worked13:10
ForgeAusJado as long as you don't flood with pings I don't see why it shouldn't13:11
Jadoit shouldn't because i can't access on google.fr (or any other website) in konqueror :(13:11
ForgeAusyou mean you have dns but no browsing?13:12
JadoLynoure telnet www.google.com 80 works well13:12
prince_jammysJado: do---> www-browser google.com13:12
prince_jammysJado: ok if telnet works forget it13:12
pteaguecould be that port 80 or tcp services are blocked...  icmp is a different connection type13:12
Jadogoogle.com contacted, waiting for reply...13:12
connyosishi there. I have a friend who is going to install kubuntu but he doesn't want X to start on boot. He prefers logging in at a prompt and starting X manually should he feel like it. How does one go about making kubuntu not start X at boot?13:13
sarshi some one know a good php editor for kubuntu feaisty fawn ho color php function and give information about param like dreamweaver?13:13
JadoForgeAus i don't know what that means, but i mean that i can ping on the terminal, but i can't browse13:13
prince_jammyssars  don't know, i just use kate13:14
ForgeAusyes but you can resolve domain names like it will connect to www.google.fr you don't need to give it a string of numbers (ie an IP like
ForgeAuswait 295 is invalid but you get my point13:14
pteaguesars> there's something like gphpedit or something... it's more of a gnome app, but it works under kde... however, i prefer eclipse + phpeclipse13:14
Jadoi know what an IP is ^^ but i don't understand what you mean13:15
Jadomy english is bad :/13:15
pteaguekate is nice :)  but just does syntax highlighting13:15
ForgeAuswell dns all it does is translates the name to the number13:15
prince_jammysJado: try in browser window:::
Jadook so dns works well13:15
ForgeAusie www.google.fr has an IP, and that ip is transparent to the user because of DNS13:15
ForgeAusprince I don't think that will fix13:15
sarsthank you i will try eclipce13:16
ForgeAushe has a config issue13:16
ForgeAuseither network config or konqueror config13:16
Jadowww-browser google.com didn't worked13:16
prince_jammysForgeAus: yes, but be13:16
ForgeAusjado I suggest perhaps an apt-get reinstall konqueror (is there a reinstall?) ???13:16
prince_jammysJado: no ouput at all?13:16
Jadowaiting for reply ...13:16
Jadoi stopped it13:16
prince_jammysForgeAus: yes but why would www-browser not work13:16
prince_jammysif its a konq issue13:17
ForgeAusprince configuration issue like I said13:17
pagJado, you can ping, but konq doesn't work? - try disabling knetworkmanager; should fix the issue13:17
ForgeAusfeel free to use www-browser if thats valid instead of konqueror if you like13:17
prince_jammyswww-browser independent of konq13:17
Jado64.233.167.99 doesn't work neither13:17
ForgeAusor get firefox, whatever13:17
Jadowww-browser doesn't work.13:17
ForgeAuskonqueror isn't connected to the internet13:17
ForgeAuswww either?13:17
ForgeAushmmm somethings wrong somewhere13:17
Jadowww ?13:18
ForgeAuscan ping but can't http at all?13:18
ForgeAusJado i was abbreviating13:18
BluesKajHowdy All  : )13:18
ForgeAusexplicityl I meant "www-browser" (I just shortened it)13:18
paghello BluesKaj :-)13:18
BluesKajhi pag13:18
LynoureJado: which browsers have you tried? have you restarted konqueror?13:19
ForgeAusit could be a port thing13:19
ForgeAusif port 80 is blocked by something?13:19
Lynoureproxy settings could do that too13:19
Jadotelnet www.google.com 80 works well13:19
Jadoi don't have proxy13:19
Jadoi tried konqueror only13:19
ForgeAusok well I don't know then13:19
Jadoi restarted my computer several times13:19
pagJado, please: do me a favour; disable knetworkmanager, and try, if the konqueror starts working.13:20
prince_jammysLynoure: he tried konq and a text-only browser:: problem is not konq specific13:20
ForgeAusits not port psecific its not konq specific13:20
ForgeAussounds elusively specific13:20
Lynoureprince_jammys: weird then than telnet to a site works...13:20
ForgeAushard to track down to just one issue13:21
pagJado, I know it sounds like a stupid idea, but I've noticed it works in ~70% of similiar problems13:21
prince_jammysJado: just to quadruple check :::: www-browser any site13:21
prince_jammysJado: other than google :)13:21
ForgeAusyeah well I guess google could have been cached13:21
Jadohow do i disable knetworkmanager ?13:21
ForgeAusbut how do you cache telnet???13:22
pagJado, alt+f2 ->  killall knetworkmanager13:22
prince_jammysah knetworkmanager, that's sounds promising13:22
BluesKajhmm, try Firefox to eliminate konq as the prob13:22
Jadowww-browser www.hp.com --> www.hp.com contacted. waiting for reply ... then nothing13:22
ForgeAusBluesKaj its doesn't appear to be just konqui13:23
prince_jammysJado: read above about knetworkmanager13:23
BluesKajit may not appear to be but are you sure ?13:24
Jadoi killed knetworkmanager process13:24
prince_jammysBluesKaj: yes, tried text only browser and didnt work13:24
Jadobut it still doesn't work13:24
pagJado, restart konqueror?13:24
prince_jammysyou have to restart it, i think13:24
Jadoi restarted it13:25
Jadoshould i restart my pc ?13:25
prince_jammysno, knetworkmanager13:25
pagJado, no.13:25
prince_jammysunless it restarts automatically13:25
* BluesKaj retreats :) 13:25
pagprince_jammys, I'd suggest we keep knetworkmanager off...13:26
prince_jammyspag oh OK13:26
Jadoi resi keep it off13:26
prince_jammysdisregard, i thought it was necessary13:26
Jadoi keep it off*13:26
Jadoi still can ping13:27
Jadoi restarted konqueror but it still doesn't work13:27
pagJado, try the following in Konsole:  sudo /etc/init.d/interfaces resart13:27
ForgeAusprobably not needs restart probably needs reconfig and/or reinstall13:27
LynoureJado: out of curiousity... are you on irc from that machine or another? Does your other networking work?13:28
ForgeAusunless konqui isn't whats wrong of course13:28
thecokoHi, where ara the chanel list?13:28
Jadoi'm on a windows xp machine, my network works well13:28
Jadosudo /etc/init.d/interfaces restart not found :/13:29
dZen|n|hello do some of you have enemy territory game installed ? I have problems with downloading packets13:29
Distro^Junkiehmmm can't get sound outta all my speakers for surround13:29
prince_jammysJado: wireless, correct?13:29
BluesKajDistro^Junkie, have you checked the vol ctrls in alsamixer ?13:30
Distro^Junkieturn on surround and it comes surround in 2 of the speakers13:30
Jadofirst i wanted to connect wireless, but i don't have drivers, then i plugged an ethernet cable in order to download drivers for the wireless, but it didn't work13:30
jpatrickTonio_: yo13:30
BluesKajDistro^Junkie, how about in kmix?13:31
Tonio_jpatrick: re ;)13:31
Tonio_just a little switch to kde4 to take kdesudo snapshots for kde-apps ;)13:31
Jadowhy " sudo /etc/init.d/interfaces restart " isn't found ?13:31
Jadopag prince_jammys have you another idea for me ?13:32
Distro^Junkieand I know they all work cause I dual boot with windows (wife is a mindless winblows user)13:32
prince_jammysJado: no sorry -- but i recall earlier you were having trouble related to wireless13:32
BluesKajok, Distro^Junkie , using amarok ?13:32
pagJado, probably because I remembered the path wrong..13:32
Distro^Junkieamarok or last.fm13:32
prince_jammysJado: or maybe related to having more than one interface? i dont know ... check pag13:33
Distro^Junkieamarok is only giving me the xine engine13:33
Jadoi have two interface13:33
Jadowireless and ethernet13:33
Jadowireless is by defaut but doesn't work13:33
pagJado, and umm.. try installing firefox  (apt works, right?)  then we will at least see, if it works.13:33
Jadoso i'm trying ethernet13:33
BluesKajok Distro^Junkie , but have you got the speaker arrangement tab set for surround 5.1 or whatever setup you have ?13:34
Jado"package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package. this may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoloted, or is only available from another source"13:35
Jadowhen apt-get install firefox13:35
Distro^Junkieyes I do BluesKaj13:35
pagJado, ' sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install firefox '13:36
BluesKajwell, then Distro^Junkie I'm stumped , short of making sure the connections are ok13:36
Jadoadept manager doesn't work neither, when i do "fetch updates" it stucks at 27% "waiting for headers"13:36
Distro^Junkieis alsa installed by default ?13:36
Jadoin the terminal also : 27% "waiting for headers"13:37
Jadowhen apt-get update13:37
pagJado, just wait.. it should timeout at some point13:37
sylvain-frI search how to disable some buttons on the stop menu (hibernate, turn off, restart...)13:37
BluesKajDistro^Junkie, in some cases it's not or you have to set it up in system settings /sound system/hardware tab13:38
ForgeAuswhats it with debian/ubuntu and the whole bash and dash thing??13:38
ForgeAusand how do I counter this? (or is it true?) <wols> bash is installed on EVERY debian by default and is the default shell. always13:38
sylvain-frI search how to disable some buttons on the stop menu (hibernate, turn off, restart...)13:39
pagForgeAus, you can change default shell (at least) in /etc/passwd -file13:39
Jadopag what next ?13:41
pagJado, did firefox install?13:42
Jado"waiting for headers" :/13:42
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pagJado, erm.. press ctrl+c13:42
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siofwolvesI enabled the ATI drivers in Restricted Drivers - System Settings and my box wouldn't boot to the login screen yesterday. according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI thats the way to go too. where do i go next ? btw radeon 9800 is my card.13:43
Jadoi just rebooted my computer and i directly tried www.google.fr on konqueror it worked then i tried a research and it didn't, finally i retried www.google.fr and it wasn't working anymore13:44
sylvain-frDoes someone know "multi-seat" ?13:44
Jadoany other idea ?13:45
siofwolvesbtw  if i try a manual install 'sudo apt-get install dpkg-dev debhelper libstdc++5 dkms' that seems to work, but, './ati-driver-installer-8.443.1-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/gutsy' doesn't. do i need to be in a specifuc directory?13:45
BluesKajsiofwolves, are you on a desktop ?13:45
siofwolvesBluesKaj, yup13:45
BluesKajhave you considered checking for linux drivers for your monitor ?13:46
Jadopag, prince_jammys any other idea for me ?13:46
spawn57is there a way to turn off usplash, my computer isn't starting for some reason, and I wanna see the bootup screen13:47
spawn57um boot up messages13:47
prince_jammysJado: sorry, no -- check on the web?13:48
BluesKajsiofwolves, check system settings/monitor&display/admin mode /configure monitor and look for the appropriate driver in the drop down list...apply , then reboot.13:49
Jadoi searched :/13:49
siofwolvesBluesKaj, ok13:49
rufushow do i install a KDE theme/style?13:51
rufusanyone know13:55
LynoureJado: do you reliably get ips for those sites?13:55
siofwolvesBluesKaj, settings/monitor&display/admin mode/Hardware/Monitor #1 is where i'm changing the setting. i have a packard bell monitor, so trying the basic 'packard bell' setting.13:55
LynoureJado: like I asked earlier, how is your other networking from that machine?13:56
Simon12I just installed Kubuntu, I thought compiz was included?13:56
jpatrick!compiz | Simon1213:57
ubotuSimon12: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion13:57
Simon12and, is there any way to handle multiple screens?13:57
ForgeAussimon yes13:57
ForgeAusyou mean multi-head video adaptor?13:57
Simon12I couldnt find any UI for it13:57
ForgeAusyou need to set the virtual desktop size13:57
Simon12I have a projector I want to dial view13:57
LynoureJado: if it was a computer I was on, I'd strace a browser (the simpler browser the better) and see what it does...13:58
faustthere is a channel for ubuntu in italian?13:58
prince_jammysJado: check this out --- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=36004f7adefb33b96497575224d931cd&t=28203413:58
PeP`Hello, I'm searching the alpha 4 of hardy heron with KDE 4 (!), does the normal kubuntu i386 alternate install CD of hardy alpha4 contain KDE4 or is there a special iso somewhere?13:58
BluesKajsiofwolves, ok , you may end up with a "custom 1" or some such configuration , but don't be alarmed ,especially if it works  :)13:58
ForgeAuswow there is a big one!13:58
BluesKajPeP`, no, hardy and KDE4 are seperate , the default kde in hardy is still 3.5.814:00
IppatsuManfaust: #ubuntu-it14:00
Simon12Right now I see the desktop on both my screen andmy projector, Id like them to be dual view instead14:00
KobolDoes anyone here use Kubuntu (With KDE4) on a laptop?14:00
jpatrick!kde4 > Kobol14:00
KobolI was just going to ask how it performed, didn't need any support, thanks though :P14:01
CaNCeRouS_CraBi m getting horrible static in my ausio system in kubuntu.... there is no problem with earthing plz help14:01
Enissayi've just installed apache, and my browser try to download index.html from www directory... how can i fix this?14:02
PeP`BluesKaj: and do you know where I can download the iso or alpha 4 with KDE4? or would installing a command-line system and then the packages xserver-xorg, xfonts-base, kde4-core and maybe kdm be ok? (bit long...)14:02
CaNCeRouS_CraB i have a dual boot system in windows there is no static ut in kubuntu there is horrible static14:02
BluesKajKDE4 isn't ready for prime time , but if you're adventurous , read the MOTD for kde4 sources14:03
frank23PeP`: check this iso out http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/gutsy/kde4/14:03
frank23PeP`: it's unsupported though14:04
PeP`frank23: thank you14:04
BluesKajCaNCeRouS_CraB, describe static and the setting in which it happens14:05
PeP`frank23: actually that is gutsy...  I am looking for the alpha 4 of hardy14:05
CaNCeRouS_CraBBluesKaj static noise... and default setting i dint do anything with the settings14:06
CaNCeRouS_CraBBluesKaj its sort of a hissing sound14:06
BluesKajare you using amarok or a player of any kind or do you just have the volume cranked up14:06
frank23PeP`: oh. you probably have to install kde4 after you install the regular kubuntu hardy14:08
PeP`frank23: Ok... I wanted to test the combination without the old KDE interfering, but I guess I'm going to have to install a command-line system and then kde4-core14:09
PeP`and xorg14:09
PeP`of course14:09
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Simon12how do I install the nvidia drivers?14:10
Simon12I suppose I better do that before fumbling with my scren settings14:10
frank23PeP`: that should work I guess. bonne chance14:10
PendetaIs anyone here using Kubuntu with an NVIDIA nForce RAID Class Controller set to RAID 0+1?14:11
PeP`frank23: thank you :)14:11
emanuelesera a tt14:12
jpatrick!it | emanuele14:12
ubotuemanuele: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!14:12
spawn57damn kubuntu is crashing alot for me lately14:13
Simon12lol Im such a noob, I cant manage to install flash player for konq.14:16
theunixgeekHow do I add page numbers in OOoWriter? :P14:16
Simon12I just downloaded a .tar.gz  but I dont know what to do with it14:16
spawn57Simon12: flash ...use adept and search for flash-nonfree14:17
spawn57and install it14:17
jpatrick!flash > Simon1214:17
Simon12thank you14:18
Enissayi wanna install php4-mysql wich isn't in the repositories... i download it but i can't install it because it has dependencies with other files.... wich repository do i have to add to install this package and all of it's dependencies?14:21
Simon12I dont get any results when searching for flash-nonfree14:23
SlimeyPeteSimon12: flashplugin-nonfree14:23
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Simon12hm, I klicked "request install" but nothing happens14:25
RomanRudenkoWhy would adept crash on a fresh 7.10 install in VMWare?14:25
SlimeyPeteSimon12: and then you clicked apply?14:25
Simon12status: not installed, request: install14:25
RomanRudenkoI can fetch the package list, but once I try to install it, adept dies14:25
SlimeyPeteSimon12: you have to click Apply Changes14:26
Simon12hm, I dont see any apply, only "Cancel request" and "details"14:26
SlimeyPeteEnissay: I don't think any of the official repositories will help you there. You may have to install all of it manually.14:26
RomanRudenkoAlso, a lot of K-menu entries are prefixed with _: Entry in K-Menu14:27
felixhummelwhere can i find a comprehensive list of kubuntu-compatible (p35-)motherboards?14:27
SlimeyPeteRomanRudenko: might be a good idea to do "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade" in a terminal14:27
felixhummeli found hardware for linux, but the search is... well, see for yourself: http://hardware4linux.info/search/14:28
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Simon12hmmm, was that flash plugin for firefox only?14:28
Simon12because, I dont have firefox installed ( I think) and Konq is still asking me to download flash when I try to watch a video.14:28
SlimeyPeteSimon12: I think you have to fiddle a bit to make it work in Konqueror14:28
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash14:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about konqueror - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:28
Simon12well I rather use firefox anyway14:29
SlimeyPeteMe too. Actually I use Opera but Firefox is my second choice.14:29
ubotuThe Flash plugin installation has been broken for some time. A fix has been released now, although it might not have yet reached all mirrors. If the update fails to install Flash, try « sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree ; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree »14:29
SlimeyPetefelixhummel: I don't think that such a list exists.14:30
SlimeyPetethough there is a compatibility section on the ubuntu wiki somewhere14:30
ubotuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection14:30
SlimeyPeteyeah, there14:30
SlimeyPeteit's not 100% complete though14:30
RomanRudenkoOh, now I know14:31
RomanRudenkoCrashing is Adept Updater's way of saying that network is down :)14:31
BluesKajI've always liked Konq but it has some quirks that irk me , like the jumping cursor in the google searchbar box, when trying to correct or add a word to a pahrase , that's PITA for KB challenged ppl like me .14:31
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SlimeyPeteRomanRudenko: heh, yeah, that sounds like the sort of thing Adept would do14:31
felixhummelthanks, SlimeyPete14:34
alexeyVista c'est génial14:34
Simon12dang, I accedently installed compiz for gnome and not compiz-kde, is it easy to uninstall? :S14:36
RomanRudenkoWhoops... opening that VMWare Tools package with Ark was a big mistake14:38
RomanRudenkoNow it tries to outslow Vista as it is reading and rendering the file tree14:39
peppershi there14:39
peppersI was wondering, is there a command or commands that allows you to check the current doenstream and upstream in b/s or kb/s?14:39
SlimeyPete"sudo apt-get install bwm"14:39
pepperscould you tell me please?14:40
SlimeyPetethen run "bwm"14:40
peppershmm ok lemme try14:40
gundam_rx78nt1has anybody experienced any problems after updating kubuntu last week (in ref: the large kde update)?14:40
Simon12did I screw up my dear system now? :( Can I uninstall compiz?14:40
jpatrickgundam_rx78nt1: kde 3.5.9 has been release..14:40
romunovSimon12: you can uninstall compiz14:42
ahmad_hello, i can't connect to a wireless connection, can you help me to reconfigure my wireless connection?14:42
romunovSimon12: Simon12 see http://forlong.blogage.de/article/2007/8/29/How-to-install-Compiz-Fusion-on-Ubuntu-Feisty---tutorial-for-advanced-andor-KDE-as-well-as-Xfce-users14:42
gundam_rx78nt1jpatrick: so that was that big push last week?14:42
jpatrickgundam_rx78nt1: kde 4.0.1 was the big push last week :)14:43
peppersSlimeyPete, in bwm, what's TX and what's RX?14:44
gundam_rx78nt1jpatrick: I am looking at the update list and it say: kde 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2.214:45
jpatrickgundam_rx78nt1: security update that one14:45
gundam_rx78nt1ahmad_: what is wrong with your wireless configuration?14:46
ubuntufreakI installed Kubuntu 7.04 in my system and after i restarted the screen is weird, how do i correct this14:47
ahmad_i can't connect to a wireless network, is there wrong with the settings?14:48
gundam_rx78nt1are you using the knetwork manager?14:49
SlimeyPetepeppers: TX is transfer, RX is receive14:49
SlimeyPeteso out and in14:49
ubuntufreakIs there anyway to correct the xserver using the live cd14:50
ahmad_gunndam, yup im'm using the knetwork manager.14:50
SlimeyPeteubuntufreak: you can mount your hard disk (it might be automounted in fact) and edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf14:51
SlimeyPeteif that's what you're after14:51
gundam_rx78nt1do you see available wireless netowrks or it doesn't show any?14:52
ahmad_the available network appears at the knetwork manager but still i cant connect.14:53
SlimeyPetehi, crazymax.14:53
crazymaxI see it's enlish chanal14:54
ahmad_gundam, in fact the signal strenth is 71,14:54
gundam_rx78nt1so when you try to connect to a network, what does it tell you?14:54
SlimeyPetecrazymax: yes, but there are other channels for other languages14:55
gundam_rx78nt1that is good enough for a decent connection...14:55
SlimeyPetecrazymax: what language do you speak?14:55
gundam_rx78nt1have you configured any manual connections?14:55
ubotuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke14:55
ahmad_ activating wireless network connection the the the lower portion corega (ra0), the 28% and activation stage: configuring device14:58
gundam_rx78nt1it doesn't go beyond the 28%14:59
ahmad_yup it doesn't go beyond 28%15:00
gundam_rx78nt1have you tried to use any other program besides knetwork manager?15:01
ahmad_no not yet, i try to configure it manually, the rao is enabled at the network interface15:03
shawn_quick question15:03
gundam_rx78nt1if you are not connecting to a wpa encrypted network, then try another wifi manager program.  Many people here has changed the application for that reason.15:04
ahmad_then at the route, the ip address appears same appears at the domain server name15:05
ahmad_ok gundam, i will try after i finish downlowding at the adept updater15:07
TuxOtakuhey guys, how would I go about changing KDE 3.5's default file manager to dolphin instead of konqueror?15:13
ubotuDolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.15:13
TuxOtakuok cool15:14
BluesKajso just sub dolphin for konq in that tutorial15:14
simon_hello, how do I mount a drive?15:15
simon_a ntsf drive to be precise15:18
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter15:18
TuxOtakuone more question...does anyone know if there's a firefox theme based on the new crystal theme in KDE?15:19
BluesKajsimon_, also , install ntfs-3g and ntfs-config if you need access to an external drive .15:19
simon_ic ok15:20
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ethan961new theme ie oxygen?15:21
ethan961there is a skin for ff for crystal, I havnt seen an oxygen one yet15:22
sigma_1234someone is probably still making it15:23
sigma_1234anyway why bother using firefox. use konqueror15:23
BluesKajsigma_1234, unfortunately FF has fewer "issues" on gutsy than konq does.15:25
simon_I can see my drive in the "System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem", but when I click it in the Dolphin - Storage Media I get "hal-storage-fixed-mount-options refused uid 1000" as an error message at the bottom.15:27
prince_jammyssimon: what is the name of the mount point?15:29
siofwolvesafter a week of trying i have installed an ati driver :) i used this guide for anyone that needs it. -> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide15:29
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BluesKajyes siofwolves , it depends on what you want to do with your graphics15:31
BluesKajsiofwolves, I use the restricted driver cuz I want to have google earth , DRI and 3D ,on my onboard low end x200g ati card .15:33
sigma_1234yeah but firefox is so slow and eats resources15:34
BluesKajsigma_1234, I beg to differ ..FF runs clean and fast here15:34
stdincheck it's mem usage15:35
sigma_1234really? where did you download it from?15:35
sigma_1234it uses over 100mb. konq uses about 50 and its a file manager15:36
siofwolvesBluesKaj, i just want to have the correct driver installed for my card, anything which I ran ie, scorched 3D would be very slow, which is'nt right.15:36
simon_hm, Kopete crashes for me when I try to log in at msn, is there another better IM out there for KDE?15:36
BluesKajstdin, it does what I need it to do , konq hasn't kept up with innivations IMO ...was a konq user and fan for a long time but since Gutsy it's too restricted and PITA in some ways15:36
stdinBluesKaj: try FF3, you'll soon switch back :p15:37
* siofwolves is happy now15:37
sigma_1234what is the word kompete supposed to mean?15:38
BluesKajsiofwolves, yesterday I suggested that you use the restricted default driver in system settings advanced15:38
sigma_1234sorry meant kopete15:38
siofwolvesBluesKaj, i couldn't boot though. it frooze before the login screen.15:39
BluesKajstdin, yeah FF3 is not ready for prime time15:39
stdinBluesKaj: tell that to the person that decided to make it the default FF version in hardy :/15:39
BluesKajsiofwolves, did you try to setup your monitor driver like I suggested?15:39
_Angelus_BluesKaj: the only 3issues i found in konq where, a bit flower then FF , you must use and old version of flash or it crashes , and amsn's direct linke to hotmail's acoount doenst workin it (which i dont use anymore cause i changed to gmail(15:40
BluesKaj_Angelus_, and gmail still doesn't render properly in konq15:40
tj__i used the ad/remove programs to install open arena but i can't find the program folder so i can add maps can anyone help15:40
_Angelus_i use gmail from kmail BluesKaj which works very good using pop3 and smtp15:41
siofwolvesBluesKaj, yeah i did earlier, didn't try the restricted default driver in system settings advanced again though. i will next time ;)15:41
BluesKajI'm using FF cuz it works right now ..as soon as konq is brought up to date , I'll switch back .15:41
ForgeAushehe someone should make a kubunturix! :) (kubuntu on interix!)15:42
BluesKajsiofwolves, i suspect it's the same driver as the one you used in that tutorial15:42
siofwolvesheh i have a monitor with packard bell on but it says NEC on the back. (NEC is what is the driver i'm using)15:42
BluesKaj_Angelus_, I'm still using kmail ..works fine with FF as the browser15:43
siofwolvesBluesKaj, i agree. i never knew the monitor needed to be correctly selected. i do now though.15:43
BluesKajyes gmail is linked to my kmail as well15:44
BluesKajsiofwolves, yes ppl overlook the importance of monitor drivers15:44
siofwolvesBluesKaj, thanks for your help. :)15:45
tj__how do i see .folders in the home dir15:47
_Angelus_tj__: command line or dolphin?15:47
tj__i don't see any og the folder in the home folder that start like .folder15:48
tj__dolphin shows the home folder but i guess i'm trying to see hidden folders15:50
Arwenctrl+h perhaps?15:51
Arwenalt+. *15:52
jykkeI am running kubuntu edgy on my laptop I have some problems getting wireless to start with boot15:52
jykkeI made S42wireless-restart and linked that to a shell script in /etc/init.d that does a restart but it does not work15:52
jykkeI need to do manual restart after boot and then the interface is up15:53
tj__alt+. worked thanks alot15:53
simon_Im trying to figure out how to install ntsf-3g15:53
simon_I couldnt find it in the adept manager15:54
simon_how do I do?15:54
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stdin!ntfs-3g | simon_15:56
ubotusimon_: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions15:56
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tj__why does dolphin always give me the error can't save bookmark ever time i close a window out15:58
tj__Unable to save bookmarks in /home/tj/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml. Reported error was: Permission denied. This error message will only be shown once. The cause of the error needs to be fixed as quickly as possible, which is most likely a full hard drive.16:00
sub[t]rnltj__➜ sudo chown tj ~/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml16:00
simon_is there any winamp like app where u canb listen to internet radio?16:01
stdinsimon_: what, you don't like amarok?16:01
tj__i did sudo chown tj ~/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml sorry same error16:01
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stdintj__: try "sudo chown -R tj:tj  ~/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/"16:02
simon_I couldnt find any radio thingy there, will take another look16:02
tj__worked thanks16:04
walmikhello enlightened ones... can anybody pls tell me the right java paeclipseckages to be installed for running16:05
walmikjava packages for eclipse16:05
simon_stdin > "Error loading media. There is no available decoder." :(16:06
Ayabaraanyone with a Dell XPS M1530 about?16:06
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.16:07
simon_weird, I just installed ntsf-config and absoluitly nothing happens when I try to run it from System->NTSF Config Tool16:07
AndreSTChow to read DVD on kubuntu?16:10
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs16:10
AndreSTCjpatrick "for playing DVD" link isnt working16:11
simon_Anyone have an idea of why nothing happens when I run NTSF Config Tool?16:12
selckinrunning it console?16:12
jpatrickAndreSTC: works here16:12
PhilRodhi, stupid question: is there a standard way to control laptop fans in kubuntu, or do I need something specific to my make/model?16:14
jpatrickPhilRod: hmm, I'd like to know that too16:15
PhilRodwell, so apparently the i8k tools will control the fan on my laptop, but I'm running from a live cd, so I'd have to install it somehow. Is that possible on the kubuntu livecd?16:16
simon_selckin: nope16:17
selckintry that, see if it outputs any text16:18
AndreSTCi have a dvd with some files... i put it in the driver... it shows there is a new media found, i click on it to open on a new window and nothing happens... where can i acess the files on the dvd?16:20
simon_selckin, do u know how?16:20
obituaryanybody please tell me how to conect wireless in kubuntu16:21
sigma_1234will ubuntu mobile edition be able to run on the eeepc?16:23
sigma_1234sorry got dc. did anyone reply to my question?16:26
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TuxOtakuis there any way to make the clock applet in kde 3.5's kicker transparent?16:36
Simon121. Anyone knows how to run ntsf-config from the console in kde? 2. Anyone know why I get "there is no available decoder" when trying to listen to a radio stream in Amarok?16:37
ArwenTuxOtaku, set your panel to be transparent16:38
jussi01Simon12: 2. install kubuntu-restricted-extras16:40
jussi01not sure about the ntfs-config - although have you tried running that command?16:40
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Simon12jussi01: Yes, I tried to run just "ntsf-config", said "command not found"16:44
jussi01Simon12: you have a typo, it should be ntfs-config16:45
Simon12that was only here =)16:46
Simon12good eyes tho16:46
Simon12hm no it wasnt, lol16:46
freeksh0w86i can't get ogg vorbis files ripped from CD's to play... i tried both k3b and KAudioCreator. any ideas? i can get older vorbis audio files to play though...16:47
kennethhello all16:47
jussi01freeksh0w86: what error does it give?16:47
jussi01hi kenneth16:47
kennethanyone know what channel i can chat on for emc2 ?16:47
kennethhello juss16:48
jussi01kenneth: what is emc2?16:48
freeksh0w86@jussi01 no errors, all applications that try to play the ogg file either freeze or crash16:48
kennethcnc(machining) software16:48
jussi01kenneth: no idea. sorry16:48
kennethok  thanks anyway16:48
kennethoff to look....have fun..............and thanks again juss16:49
freeksh0w86well, mplayer, when i run it from the command line, keeps trying to select "ffmpeg/libavcodec" to play the ogg16:49
jussi01gah, when will people learn tab completion :(16:49
freeksh0w86er... it is the "vorbis decoder though"16:50
jussi01freeksh0w86: Im not sure what should cause that.16:50
jussi01freeksh0w86: you could look at the !codecs page, but Im not sure anything there will help16:50
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats16:51
freeksh0w86maybe i should just restart KDE and try again since none of my ogg files seem to work right now16:53
jussi01freeksh0w86: that may help...16:53
TuxOtakuArwen, I don't want the ENTIRE panel transparent, I just want the clock to blend in with the pixmapped background I have on my panel16:57
hektikwhats the latest version of the nvidia drivers in the package manager?16:57
ArwenTuxOtaku, doesn't work that way, mfraid16:58
hektikwhats the latest version of the nvidia drivers in the package manager?17:00
jussi01!info nvidia-glx-new | hektik17:01
ubotuhektik: nvidia-glx-new (source: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 ( NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 100.14.19+ (gutsy), package size 4896 kB, installed size 14848 kB17:01
jussi01hektik: please be a little patient ;)17:01
hektikthe only way to run 3d acceleration with nvidia 8800gt is to install the latest drivers from the nvidia webpage right ?17:01
hektiksorry. didnt mean to type twice17:01
jussi01hektik: I suspect so - I think hardy will have the new drivers17:02
hektikwhen does hardy come out ?17:02
jussi01!info nvidia-glx-new hardy | hektik17:03
ubotuhektik: nvidia-glx-new (source: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 ( NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 169.09+ (hardy), package size 5124 kB, installed size 15232 kB17:03
hektikyea, there it is17:03
hektikthats not cool17:05
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto17:11
simon12hm, how do u get the bot to say smart things?17:11
simon12ah there we go17:11
simon12hm, I tried to install the nvidia drivers by installing nvidia-glx-new from the adept manager, installation was successfull, but I cant find any configuration application anywhere.17:13
|Dreams|is it possible to replace kde 3.5 with kde 4?17:13
|Dreams|or should i just wait for the next version of kubuntu17:15
ubotuKDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde417:15
Arwenit is, but whether it's advisable is a whole other question17:15
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion17:16
|Dreams|so i should just wait for the next release17:16
ninherhi all17:17
ubotuThe Flash plugin installation has been broken for some time. A fix has been released now, although it might not have yet reached all mirrors. If the update fails to install Flash, try « sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree ; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree »17:19
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BluesKajthe nonfree flash plug mentioned above , how can that be the the older version that is supposed to work in konqueror ?17:23
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joheyHow can I update to KTorrent 2.2.5 in Gutsy Gibbon?17:46
Arwenjohey, by installing it17:46
jahromeowhere are the .bin files stored for aptget?17:47
NickPresta!info ktorrent17:48
joheyArwen: Is there a package for it, or should I apt-get remove it first and then install it from source or something?17:48
ubotuktorrent (source: ktorrent): BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.1-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 2698 kB, installed size 9932 kB17:48
NickPrestajohey, there is version 2.2.1 in the repos. Any reason why you need 2.2.5?17:48
joheyNickPresta: Yes. <2.2.5 is banned from a site.17:48
Arwenjohey, download the source, copy over the debian packaging information from a Debian source package, build.17:49
NickPrestajohey, ah I see. You would have to compile, it seems.17:49
jahromeowhere are the .bin files stored for aptget?17:49
SlimeyPetethey're .deb, not .bin17:49
NickPrestajohey, I would use checkinstall, to create a deb so your update process is not screwed up in the future.17:49
SlimeyPeteand they're somewhere in /var/apt17:49
Arwenor install the Hardy package Phttp://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/net/ktorrent)17:49
NickPresta!checkinstall > johey17:49
SlimeyPete/var/apt/cache I think17:49
Arwen( http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/net/ktorrent )17:50
ScorpKingjahromeo: /var/cache/apt/archives/17:50
Arwen!checkinstall | do not use17:50
ubotudo not use: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!17:50
jahromeoscorpion maybe you can help me - my apt-get gets corrupted and i get segmentation faults17:50
jpatrickArwen: why not?17:50
jahromeoif im using a frontend such as adept17:50
Arwenjpatrick, it kills dependency handling17:51
jahromeoso i switched to synaptic didnt have the fault whole day and its occured again17:51
jahromeois there a quick fix other than del the bin and using the console?17:51
ScorpKingjahromeo: any errors from the command line?17:51
jahromeocommand line is fine - if i use that , but soon as i use frontend it corrupts the .bin17:51
jahromeono matter if its adept or synaptic17:51
NickPrestaArwen, I don't know if it is a problem but KTorrent in Hardy requires libc6 >= 2.7.1. Gutsy only has
joheyOki, NickPresta. Thanks!17:51
ArwenNickPresta, well, that would be a problem. Hehe.17:51
NickPrestaWhich is why you should use checkinstall install of installing a deb meant for something else :)17:52
ArwenNickPresta, no, that means you should make a proper deb package17:52
Arwenper !packaging17:52
NickPrestaI aware of packing, and I'm not going to argue with you, but some people may find that intimidating and time consuming for something as simple as upgrading a minor version of KTorrent.17:53
jahromeohow does on search for something via apt-get?17:55
NickPrestajahromeo, apt-cache search PACKAGE17:55
ScorpKingjahromeo: maybe reinstall adept?17:55
jahromeoadept/synaptic both do it17:55
jahromeoim not going to use frontends anymore17:55
jahromeothey corrupt my things and cause me headaches17:55
ScorpKingjahromeo: you can also try to start adept_installer from konsole and see if any errors show in konsole17:56
jahromeoit does it with synaptic too17:56
jahromeountil i del those 2.bin files17:57
jahromeoneither will run17:57
jahromeonor will apt-get17:57
NickPrestajahromeo, we need error messages and such. We can't guess the problem (most of the time ;) anyways)17:57
ScorpKingwhat .bin files?17:57
IIVQquestion: how do I disable spell-checking in kubuntu?17:57
NightBirdIIVQ: that may be a program specific thing, what program are you wanting to do it in?17:59
jahromeojerome@AbadonwareLinux:/var/cache/apt$ sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new17:59
jahromeoReading package lists... Done17:59
jahromeoSegmentation fault (core dumped)17:59
jahromeothat is it17:59
jahromeothats all it is17:59
jahromeoi del the .bin and apt-get/frontend works again well synaptic does - adept is a piece of bollocks that keeps crashing so i dont use it17:59
IIVQNightBird, in this case: in XChat17:59
unagianyone have funky crap going on when they start kubuntu, like tray icons not showing up and adept notifier in a window?18:00
ScorpKingjahromeo: what .bin ?18:00
IIVQbut actually, in all programs (except for openoffice)18:00
jahromeoin the apt/cache folder18:00
NickPrestaunagi, you running Compiz Fusion?18:00
NightBirdIIVQ: dunno then18:00
jahromeosudo rm pkgcache.bin srcpkgcache.bin - dels and stops segmentation error to frontend like adept/synaptic18:00
IIVQNightBird, Konqueror also has spell checking on input boxes. It's annoying the hell out of me18:00
unagiNickPresta: yes18:00
NickPrestaunagi, That is the problem. I don't think they know of a fix yet.18:00
ScorpKingjahromeo: what does dmesg | tail say? please don't paste here.18:01
unagiwould it maybe help if i delayed the start of comppiz?18:01
ScorpKing!paste > jahromeo18:01
Distro^JunkieThe ALSA soundsystem is either busy or not present. <--- keep getting this in the last.fm radio player18:01
NickPrestaunagi, I don't think so. Ask in #compiz-fusion. There may be a fix since I last checked.18:02
Distro^Junkiebut its showing it as an option in the player18:02
jahromeoim telling you its the .bin that corrupts18:02
jahromeowhen i del em frontend works fine18:02
jahromeobut ill paste it18:02
ScorpKingjahromeo: i don't say it's not. i just can see why. nothing in dmesg18:03
jahromeonobody yesterday for 2 hrs could tell me why its doing what its doing\18:03
jahromeoin kubuntu/ubuntu/compiz-fusion18:04
jahromeoi had em all stumped18:04
jahromeobest solution was del .bin and dont use a frontend18:04
jahromeowhen im not using frontend it doesnt happen18:04
ScorpKingjahromeo: any full filesystems? see df -h18:04
jahromeocli = fine18:04
jeismaanyone here familiar with perl/longest common subsequence prob?18:04
jeismajahromeo whats the prob?18:04
simon12hello. Im playing around in nvidia settings, trying to get my dual view config to work. It finaly works pretty nice, except that its my secondary monitor that acts as the main one. I cant find any way in the UI to select wich one should be the main one. Anyone knows?18:05
biovoreyou can do everything in CLI.. you can't do everything from a GUI..18:05
biovoresimon12: I think there is an option you can put in xorg.conf to say.. to the right or to the left..  It also maters what port on the graphics card your using.18:05
jahromeoif i use a frontend like adept/synaptic it corrupts pkgcache.bin srcpkgcache.bin and i gotta del em before apt-get will work again or i get segmentation faults18:05
ScorpKingjahromeo: nope, no full disks.18:06
simon12yes, Ive set it to the left, that works fine, except the tasbar is on the right side, and so is the login window.18:06
* ScorpKing thinks..18:06
simon12so I assume the right one is, for some reason, acting as the main monitor18:06
biovoreswap the connections on the graphics card.. (simplest way to go)18:06
simon12that one is a crt18:07
simon12cant do that18:07
jahromeoanway i need to restart x so i can use compiz18:07
biovoreswap where the monitors are sitting on the desk :-P18:07
simon12the monitor I want to be secondary that is now functioning as primary only has a vga input18:07
simon12its actually a projector to be precis :D18:07
simon12and its a pain in the a** to work at the wall :)18:08
simon12(because its behind me lol)18:08
ScorpKingsimon12: have you looked in the monitor and display section in kcontrol?18:08
simon12hm kcontrol..18:08
simon12where do I find this kcontrol?18:09
ScorpKingsimon12: press alt+f2 and type kcontrol18:09
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simon12Only my projector is shown there18:11
jahromeok back graphics is working now18:11
jahromeoso scorpion you have a think on why frontend corrups those .bins?18:14
ScorpKingjahromeo: no idea what else it could be with adept. try asking in #linux and #ubuntu18:14
ScorpKingjahromeo: reinstall adept maybe18:14
jahromeolinux channel aint newb friendly to say the least - they dont like noob users18:14
jahromeoscorpion - it does it on synaptic/adept18:14
jahromeosynaptic only once in like 2 days, adept every time i open18:15
ScorpKingreally weird18:15
jahromeocompiz is working but now i got that error where my x boxes etc dissapear what is string to fix that again? e.g. parts of menus are missing18:15
jahromeoyep it is18:15
NickPrestajahromeo, emerald --replace18:17
jahromeothats not it18:17
jahromeodidnt even have emerald installed18:17
jahromeoits some nvidia command18:17
jahromeothat i cant remember18:17
jahromeoTo fix your compiz window decorations (titlebars) with an nVidia graphics card, run « sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24 », then restart !X.18:18
jahromeoits that18:18
NickPrestaah okay.18:18
Jahromeodoes adept start by default when you start a machine18:20
Jahromeocaus i keep getting adept errors18:20
Arwenis there a way to tell how much of my RAM is being used, discounting buffers and cache?18:20
ScorpKingJahromeo: have you tried - sudo apt-get update ?18:20
NickPrestaArwen, `free`?18:21
ScorpKingJahromeo: it might also be a good idea to look in /var/log/* for any usefull adept errors18:21
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ArwenNickPresta, I suppose that works18:21
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Jahromeohttp://pastebin.com/m138de66e - i get that popup whenever i restart x / restart pc18:22
NickPrestaJahromeo, and this is on Gutsy?18:22
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Jahromeothen i gotta del the 2.bins again18:22
Jahromeoits a pain in the ass18:22
NickPrestaJahromeo, yep, Gutsy. That is really strange. Personally, I would create a topic on ubuntuforums.org. Wait for someone to come and explain the situation.18:23
simon12I managed to move the task bar to the screen that I want to be primary by going in to Configure - KDE Panel, but Im afrid the login screen will still be shown on the projector. Hmm, When the computer starts the loading screen and Grub is shown on the projector aswell. Think its possible to change primary display from bios or something?18:23
Jahromeoif i wanna use apt-get aftger restart then i gotta del the 2.bin18:23
Jahromeorestarting to fix driveri ssues18:24
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Distro^JunkieThe ALSA soundsystem is either busy or not present. <--- keep getting this in the last.fm radio player but its showing it as an option in the player18:26
sigma_1234its prob busy then. can you play music fine in amarok?18:28
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Distro^Junkieeven though its using xine engine18:28
ScorpKingJahromeo: the 2 .bin's seems to be the database. after you delete them you must run sudo apt-get update coz they are supposed to be the from what i can see18:29
Jahromeok ill try that scorp18:30
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noformathello all.  I'm trying to do a kubuntu install here, but the installer won't let me proceed without formatting various partitons.  They've gotta data on them that can't go anywhere else.  Is there any way I can get around this?18:32
ScorpKing!tab > Jahromeo18:32
arcticpenguin380will kubuntu ever have the requirments of vista?18:32
surgyarcticpenguin380: if it ever does you will never see me again18:33
JahromeoScorpKing:  OOO thats nice thanks18:34
ScorpKing:D thants better.18:34
Jahromeoi must say im not liking kubuntu18:35
Jahromeomy firefox wont even run18:35
Jahromeoit doesnt do anything hourglass turns, and then it closes18:35
ScorpKingJahromeo: seems like you have a few not-so-nice problems on that box :P18:36
sigma_1234Jahromeo we meet again :)18:37
Jahromeoyeah im not liking this 7.10 :P18:37
Jahromeotoo buggy for me18:37
Jahromeojerome@AbadonwareLinux:~$ firefox18:37
JahromeoSegmentation fault (core dumped)18:37
Jahromeoif i get one more frikking segmentation error i am going to have the biggest hissy18:37
sigma_1234Yeah those things should work without tinking. kubuntu is prob not liking your hardware18:37
Jahromeowhere are firefox settings stored18:37
Jahromeoits a new machine quad core etc18:38
prince_jammysJahromeo: ~/.mozilla18:38
Jahromeohow do i fix a segmenation fault in firefox18:38
Jahromeoare there more .bins i can del18:38
sigma_1234where did you buy it from? not sahara i hope18:38
Jahromeoi put it together myself18:39
Jahromeocpu sahara - hdd rectron - mboard rectron - keyboard/mouse rectron - case pcmall.co.za - dvd - rectron - ram rectron18:39
Jahromeomostly a rectron machine18:39
prince_jammysJahromeo: don't know -- some people have had success restoring the default preferences, as in "mv ~/.mozilla ~/mozbackup"18:39
prince_jammysJahromeo: gnome or KDE?18:39
prince_jammysJahromeo: yeah i get that sometimes myself and use KDE --- have yet to determine why sometimes firefox hangs and sometimes it doesnt18:40
Jahromeoso how do i fix?18:40
prince_jammysJahromeo: you can try the above -- but it's not necessarily a fix18:41
prince_jammysJahromeo: if it doesn't work, you move the directory back18:41
Jahromeodo i just alt+f2 and run that?18:41
prince_jammysJahromeo: yes18:41
ScorpKingJahromeo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/5739318:42
sigma_1234that sahara stuff is dodgy. is the proc on a one or 3year warranty?18:42
prince_jammysJahromeo: if it doesn't work, then: "mv ~/mozbackup ~/.mozilla"18:42
Jahromeoonly my cpu is sahara scorpion18:42
Jahromeostill no luck18:43
Jahromeo*sigma sorry18:43
Jahromeowilll it be ok to stay with this till new versionn comes out and would upgrade fix all these issues im having hopefully??18:44
Jahromeobandwidth is expensive here and to keep reinstalling and dling 200-300 mb is pissing me off no end18:44
Jahromeoits becoming cheaper to run a windows box even if you have to pay licencing18:44
ScorpKingJahromeo: do a memtest. i don't think your programs is the problem. it could be something with the kernel or memory management but i'm no pro, just guessing18:44
Jahromeothing is scorpion pclinuix was fine18:45
prince_jammysbut it's mozilla that's segfaulting, not apt18:45
Jahromeoand its same pc18:45
sigma_1234something hardware wise sounds realy off on ur pc18:45
Jahromeoi know but apt-get was segmenting too and i fix that by del .bin files for it, is there no such option for ffox?18:45
prince_jammysJahromeo: oooh there's more to it than i thought18:46
sigma_1234you shouldnt have to delete anything18:46
* ScorpKing agrees..18:46
ubotuThe Flash plugin installation has been broken for some time. A fix has been released now, although it might not have yet reached all mirrors. If the update fails to install Flash, try « sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree ; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree »18:46
Jahromeois there a repair option if i reinstall kubuntu?18:47
prince_jammysJahromeo: deleting bin files is playing with fire -- things can become a mess18:47
Jahromeothing is i dont want to lose my 200-300mb of upgrades ive already done18:47
Jahromeomeh its only way to use apt-get18:47
Jahromeomy frontend like synaptic/adept corrupt them18:47
Jahromeoso i no longer use the frontend18:47
Jahromeois there anyway to reinstall kubuntu without losing all my updates? - like a repair install?18:48
ScorpKingJahromeo: take a look at apt-move and apt-cacher. with that you can save all your upgrades18:48
sigma_1234disable updates. your bandwidth is too pricey18:48
Jahromeoyeah sigma this is my point18:48
prince_jammysJahromeo: yes, look into those packages -- also check out package aptoncd18:48
prince_jammys!info aptoncd | Jahromeo18:48
ubotujahromeo: aptoncd (source: aptoncd): Installation disc creator for packages downloaded via APT. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.97-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 135 kB, installed size 1024 kB18:48
Jahromeoif i keep getting hit with nonsense like this im going to use windows - its becoming cheaper even with licencing18:49
ScorpKingaptoncd doesn't support kubuntu. the gnome downloads will be big to get it installed18:49
Jahromeoman is there no repair option like windows - press r - and it reinstall but keeps settings/files18:49
ScorpKingJahromeo: that's why i keep /home on a second partition. ;)18:50
prince_jammysJahromeo: i have never had that "repair" option repair anything for me ,lol18:50
Jahromeoim not worried about personal info there is none on here - but my dls like skype , ffox etc18:50
Jahromeowill those be overwritten?18:50
Jahromeobandwidth is like 10 dollars a gig here18:51
Jahromeoits expensive i cant sit redownloading things again18:51
prince_jammysJahromeo: if you reinstall kubuntu, yes they will be overwritten18:51
ScorpKingJahromeo: all of the settings is in /home/you/.<somehiddenfile>18:51
prince_jammysJahromeo: you can cache the stuff and not have to redownload it18:51
Jahromeosnore im tempted to wait till april18:52
Jahromeoand have the upgrade fix these bugs18:52
Jahromeoi cant format its too expensive18:52
ScorpKingJahromeo: i pay $46 for 1GB btw ;)18:52
sigma_1234what country scorpking?18:54
ScorpKing1GB 3G in South Africa18:54
sigma_1234thats different though. its not a fixed line so should cost more18:55
* BluesKaj is beginning to wonder if it's too much to ask to have konqueror actually work on flash sites , or is this some kind of purst punishment on ppl who like media on websites ?18:56
ScorpKingsigma_1234: true, but i move around a lot18:56
sigma_1234but dam you actually get 3g. i live in metro durban and i dont!18:56
sigma_1234works for me blueskaj. but i uninstalled it to save bandwith18:57
BluesKajback to FF I guess , even the US repos don't seem to have the right flash plugin for konq18:57
ScorpKingBluesKaj: konq use the ff plugin on my box and it works great18:58
sigma_1234nosrednaekim: did you eventually buy a eeepc?18:58
BluesKajweird , it won't go on my setup18:58
llutzBluesKaj: works here too18:58
nosrednaekimsigma_1234 » nah... I really really want one though, but I don't have enough money. I don't want to go to college broke :)18:58
BluesKajwhat , repos are you using ScorpKing ?18:58
ScorpKingBluesKaj: http://za.bla18:59
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!19:00
ubuntu_I have Kubuntu 7.10 install problems19:00
ubuntu_How are you19:00
sigma_1234lol it just got released in sa. surprisingly the same price as in the usa. but thats probably because asus has a local office here19:00
ScorpKingsigma_1234: join offtopic plz19:00
ScorpKing!ask | ubuntu_19:01
ubotuubuntu_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)19:01
BluesKajllutz, what sources are you using ?19:01
llutzBluesKaj: de.archive..19:01
ubuntu_ok thanks19:01
Jahromeoscorpion im also in ZA :P19:01
Jahromeoand 70 rand a gig man, im going to have us capped before long dling updates19:02
BluesKajodd , i changed mine to US , cuz i suspected that the canadian ones weren't up to date19:02
llutzBluesKaj: 0 from    http://de.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-updates/multiverse Packages19:02
ScorpKing:D nice. there is #ubuntu-za btw19:02
ubuntu_ASUS CUSL2 512MB 1GHZ   boots desktop Live CD     but install on 30 GB HD seems to hang up19:02
ubuntu_also QTPart hangs when I try to use that19:02
nosrednaekimubuntu_ » are you trying to do dual-boot?19:04
ubuntu_wipe out whole HD and install just kubuntu using most automated (simple) method possible19:05
nosrednaekimubuntu_ » is it crashing on formatting or partitioning?19:05
ubuntu_I think so19:05
nosrednaekimwhich one.19:05
ubuntu_I got to copying files once (around 66%)19:06
nosrednaekimso it got past formatting.19:06
ubuntu_but mostly freezes whole desktop around 5%19:06
ubuntu_I tried several different HD19:06
nosrednaekimsounds like a bad CD.19:06
ubuntu_I ran CD verify and it passed though19:06
ubuntu_should I run again?19:06
ubuntu_can I verify from the 7.10 liveCD desktup19:07
nosrednaekimyeah, I think there is  checkCD on the grub boot menu19:07
ubuntu_I used that one before19:07
ubuntu_ok I'll check the CD once more19:11
ubuntu_be back in a little bit19:11
nosrednaekimubuntu_ » can't really say what the problem is then...19:11
ubuntu_allways get the wrong slash19:12
vltHello. Since the recent big update for kde programs (example line from /var/log/aptitude: [UPGRADE] konqueror-nsplugins 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27.3 -> 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27.4) nspluginviewer crashes every time. Any known solution?19:19
nosrednaekimthats not what I would call a big update..... but when does it crash?19:20
Jahromeo what is 7.10 - gutsy or feisty?19:20
hydrogenlsb_release -c19:21
BluesKajnope , back to FF , no flash joy in konq19:21
nosrednaekimha, i'm exactly the opposite, flash works in konq, but not in ff19:22
nosrednaekimand I prefer FF19:22
hydrogenflash doesn't work.19:22
emilsedghBluesKaj: FF is wrong, thats Fx :D19:22
hydrogenff doesn't work.19:22
hydrogenuse opera19:22
hydrogenand enjoy life19:22
BluesKajFF works fine , konq doesn't with flash i mean19:22
BluesKajopera is too busy19:23
vltnosrednaekim: Everytime I open a web page containing some element that requires nspluginviewer.19:26
vltnosrednaekim: ... I get a crash report window about nspluginviewer.19:27
nosrednaekimI think the latest version of flash no longer works with konqueror.....19:28
BluesKajwelcome to the nspluginviewer cpuhog app19:28
vltBluesKaj: Any solution?19:29
BluesKajvlt, it seems to depend on your sources.list repositories, whether they have the right version flashplugin-nonfree that works with konqueror . I'm using a US repos source but I haven't been able to get youtube videos to work in konq :(19:34
BluesKajso it seems to be a hit and miss thing, vlt19:35
vltBluesKaj: I use "deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse" ... dapper-updates and dapper-security19:38
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X9nLinux1Hi everybody.  Running Dapper on an old iMac.  Using a second monitor plugged into the extra port.  Just did a fresh install.  The monitor has set up with wrong resolution.  Looks like 640x480.  Went into System settings => Monitors.  Won't reset right. How do I fix?19:42
galbatorixzut, c'est anglais ici ?19:42
galbatorixje suis francais :$19:42
galbatorixI am french19:42
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.19:43
nosrednaekimX9nLinux1 » so you want a higher res?19:44
nosrednaekimX9nLinux1 » does the hardware support it?19:45
nosrednaekimie, the graphics card19:45
X9nLinux1870 x 1152 iirc19:45
X9nLinux1yes it does... it WAS running previously19:45
nosrednaekimok,so you are effectively trying to run dual-head?19:45
X9nLinux1JUST discovered something on side of the settings display panel..19:45
X9nLinux1yes except for that has not yet worked...19:45
nosrednaekimwith different res's on each monitor?19:45
X9nLinux1so far only the secondary monitor is showing with first one going black19:46
X9nLinux1They are probably different, not 100% positive though.19:46
nosrednaekimit may be going black because you are exceeding its res/refresh.19:46
nosrednaekimbut at 640x480, I doubt it ;)19:47
X9nLinux1it is happy during startup, but then goes black when things finish starting up and only second monitor shows19:47
djdarkmanhow can I force reload the alsa?19:48
djdarkmanI can`t seem to find it in ubuntu19:48
nosrednaekimwell, thats because X starts and has a totally different monitor settings than the kernel framebuffer19:48
nosrednaekimdjdarkman » /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart19:48
ScorpKingdjdarkman: it's alsamixer19:48
djdarkmanit doesn`t work19:49
nosrednaekim!dualhead | X9nLinux119:49
ubotuX9nLinux1: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama19:49
X9nLinux1am trying a restart on it right now... lets see how that goes.  Will go check your link in just a minute.19:50
nosrednaekimX9nLinux1 » I really have no clue how to do dual-head, or anything more complicated than a simple mirrored projector set-up19:50
djdarkmannosrednaekim: in knoppix I typed /etc/init.d/alsa force-restart ,and it realy restarted alsa in ubuntu it just doesn`t work19:50
nosrednaekimdjdarkman » whats the problem?19:50
djdarkmannosrednaekim: skype is the problem it messes up some type of recording buffer, voice only works for half an hour19:51
X9nLinux1well, so far I've not found anything good on dual heads on Mac, ... but not done fishing by a long shot19:51
nosrednaekimoh... skype <_<19:51
djdarkmanI have to restart my computer for skype to work again19:51
djdarkmanprobably something with my soundcard driver19:52
nosrednaekimpossibly... did you try restarting sound in system-settings?19:52
hanswernerauch jemand hier der deutsch spricht?19:52
djdarkmanno such option19:54
nosrednaekimwell, change some value, change it back, and hit apply19:54
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de19:54
ubotuext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org19:55
BluesKajany canucks around ?19:56
NickPrestahey BluesKaj19:56
BluesKajNickPresta, hey ...i need a canadian sources.list , if you have one ...forgot to backup19:57
X9nLinux1nosrednaekim : Is there any such thing as some 'vision impared' setting that could be triggered innadvertently somehow?  The resolution is not acting like simply wrong size screen.  Its more like moving around with a magnifying glass all over the place.19:57
nosrednaekimX9nLinux1 » that usually happens when you are sending the monitor a higher res than is supported19:58
theo__Qui parle francais ici ?19:58
NickPrestaBluesKaj, I actually don't have a canadian mirror sources.list. I have http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu repos though.19:58
NickPresta!fr | theo__19:58
ubotutheo__: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.19:58
theo__ah merci19:58
theo__euh thanks19:59
X9nLinux1nosrednaekim : That can't be the case because the exact same hardware had the same version and software a few weeks ago and only had hard drive changed out.20:00
X9nLinux1it appears that the Display 'Configuration' might end up resolving the problem once I find the right one.  Still playing for a bit.20:01
X9nLinux1its odd because it wouldn't log in right at first... but now that it did, its allowing changes fine.20:03
X9nLinux1nosrednaekim: Is there a way to correctly identify the monitor in the software?  (Kind of like Apple's System Profiler)20:07
nosrednaekimX9nLinux1 » yeah I think thats in the last tab.....20:08
nosrednaekimits in the "hardware" tab20:09
X9nLinux1Last tab (Dapper) is power saving... third tab is the one to choose monitor, but it doesn't tell what I have.   "Autodetect" gives the 'main' monitor that is less important right now... so can't get it to figure out how to fix itself20:09
X9nLinux1yeah, that's where I'm at20:10
nosrednaekimX9nLinux1 » you have to be in admin mode20:10
X9nLinux1did that too20:10
nosrednaekimX9nLinux1 » and here in gutsy, its has a choice for promary or secondary20:10
X9nLinux1It 'might' insist that both monitor choice and resolution choice be changed at same time.  Still playing20:11
brendaaluien me puede contestar unas pequeñas preguntas :P20:12
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.20:12
NickPrestahey, kroot20:17
kroot<NickPresta>, where you from? I'm from Ukraine20:18
X9nLinux1nosrednaekim: Monitor keeps 'snapping'.  Is that a normal symptom of wrong refresh rate? (the monitor itself should be fine)20:21
sfireX9nLinux1: you may want to just manually modify the xorg.conf file20:22
sfireI've found the GUI tools to be totally and completely useless20:22
X9nLinux1wouldn't even have a clue how to do that.  Hey, might have something finally starting to behave at least better.  Will know in a minute20:24
X9nLinux1ok, dropped to 1024 x 768 resolution and it not only works, mirroring also is working at the moment20:25
X9nLinux1before on 870 x 1152 (something like that) is was showing just the secondary monitor nicely.  Right now it would be good to get the primary to be able to be turned off/on independent of the second one.20:27
IIVQQuestion: I have a vanilla kubuntu installation here, with the flash-nonfree package installed20:28
IIVQworks fine in firefox, but konqueror crashes on it...20:28
IIVQany ideas?20:28
X9nLinux1In "Size ==> Orientation, the screen only offers choice of one screen.20:28
sfireIIVQ: are you using gutsy?20:28
IIVQsfire: 7.1020:28
draikHow are we coming along with 8.04?20:28
IIVQis that gutsy?20:28
sfireIIVQ: yea.. I couldn't get it to work at all with konqueror in gutsy20:29
sfiredraik: hopefully better than 7.10 ... lol20:29
sfireI regret ever upgrading my desktop to 7.1020:30
IIVQbecause I actually hate firefox ...20:30
draiksfire: :) We all expect as much20:30
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sfire7.10 was like 50 steps backwards20:31
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IIVQI hoped (k)ubuntu would be a step forward from gentoo, which I've been running for 4 years20:36
IIVQand that installation is getting a little ... volatile20:36
sfireIIVQ: not 7.10... 7.10 is about 5 yrs behind its time20:36
IIVQactually I haven't dared to update the gentoo20:36
selckinmore bashing, less facts20:37
IIVQsfire, should I wait for the next release then?20:37
IIVQor go 7.04?20:37
sfireIIVQ: 7.04 is wonderful20:37
sfireI would give 7.04 a try20:37
sfire that is what I'm running on this laptop and everything "just works"20:37
IIVQsfire: is there a way to restart just X (or just KDE), not the whole computer?20:38
sfirectrl + alt + backspace20:38
selckinlogout first20:38
IIVQhow do I disable this @(&#$# strigi desktop search?20:39
selckinuninstall the package20:39
IIVQhmmm. I think kubuntu is a little bit like vista20:40
IIVQit makes me go "how do I disable this"20:40
IIVQwhile all other installations made me go "how do I enable this"?20:40
selckinlearn how to use your software and go cry in a corner20:40
NickPrestaselckin, be nice.20:41
belor1Whats the name of the KDE program that allows you to setup a small network server20:44
chris710how can i download Code:Blocks?20:45
sfirebelor1: what kinda service?20:45
sd32how do I block im's konversation?20:46
belor1a small server that allows you to share files across the network its a program built into KDE. sfire20:46
ubuntu-dronHello everyone. Have an HDA-Intel issue. The official howto doesnt work. In fact, there is something wrong with the hda-intel kernell module. He said "unsupported symbols found". How do I fix it?20:46
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fiendskull9Im trying to run adept after a fresh install update, and its saying another apt-get or aptitude process is already running. and ive thouroughly checked with ps -ef and its not20:48
fiendskull9wait nvm, dpkg --configure -a did the trick20:49
NickPrestafiendskull9, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a20:50
fiendskull9NickPresta: thanks but i already fixed it :P20:50
NickPrestahey sub[t]rnl20:51
sub[t]rnlNickPresta➜ yo yo20:51
fiendskull9i have a 22" widescreen monitor that supports 1680x1050. Ive just finished installing nvidia drivers and i can only go up to 1400x1050. Would the best way to fix this be in the x config, or is there a better way to do it in kubuntu?20:54
sd32run the monitorwith the  plug and play driver20:55
fiendskull9sd32: the pnp driver didnt show 1680x1050 either20:56
sd32ohh sory20:56
NickPrestafiendskull9, using `nvidia-settings`, you can't select 1680x105020:56
sd32are you using the restricted drivers?20:57
fiendskull9sd32: yes20:57
fiendskull9NickPresta: nvidia-settings doesnt show 1680x1050 either20:57
fiendskull9im perfectly fine with tweaking the x config (i come from a long line of gentoo and slackware :P), but i dont know if thatll make kubuntu crap on me20:58
simon12weird, I installed compiz but I dont see it anywhere..20:58
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion20:58
NickPrestafiendskull9, and you're using the 'nvidia' driver and it is in use (and in your xorg.conf)?20:58
fiendskull9NickPresta: yessir, restricted drivers panel shows inuse, and driver "nvidia" in my xorg.conf20:59
sd32does the card support that resoloution?20:59
fiendskull9sd32: 8600gt, and it works in vista and xp20:59
sd32that answers that21:00
fiendskull9and on my gentoo install21:00
fiendskull9so its not the hardware21:00
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NickPrestafiendskull9, try manually adding it to xorg.conf.21:00
fiendskull9like i said, im fine with adding the mode line, im just asking if ubuntu will trip over itself with a user edited xorgconf21:00
fiendskull9ok NickPresta, thank you21:00
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vltAny idea how to fix the nspluginviewer crashing since last update problem?21:04
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vltCan I revert the update?21:07
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simon12lol, can anyone please tell me how to start compiz? I have installed it..21:08
sub[t]rnlcompiz --replace21:08
simon12Thats what I've tried. The screen goes black for a second, and then nothing.....21:09
simon12absolutly nothing.21:10
sub[t]rnlrun ccsm to pick which plugins you would like and to familiarize yourself with the keybindings21:10
simon12The program 'ccsm' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:21:11
simon12sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager21:11
simon12bash: ccsm: command not found21:11
jpatrick!paste > simon1221:12
jpatricksimon12: as it says: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager21:12
simon12but I did install compiz using:21:12
simon12sudo apt-get install compiz-kde compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra21:12
simon12compizconfig-settings-manager emerald librsvg2-common21:12
sub[t]rnlsimon12➜ run the apt-get again that jp told you, see if it installs or says its already current21:13
sub[t]rnlsimon12➜ from the way you pasted it, I'm guessing the last three packages are not installed21:14
simon12ok, as soon as Ive solved the problem I have right now. lol Im using kubuntu 7.10, but a minute ago it told me to upgrade to 7.10..which I did...and now its stuck on "Installing the upgrades" 0%21:14
simon12sub[t]rnl> it was in one line originaly21:15
simon12but I'll try again as soon as the upgrade has finnished lol...(it wont)21:15
sub[t]rnlsimon12➜ how long has it been hanging?21:16
simon125 minutes I suppose21:16
simon12it says "Applying changes"21:16
simon12stuck on 0%21:16
valeryнарод нужна помошь. необходимо при запуске xinit из консоли сделать так, чтобы не появлялся курсор мыши. Закоментил в xorg.conf все что связано с мышью, но при запуске xinit курсор всеравно есть и отвечает на действия мыши. Куда копать??21:16
simon12I dont understand why its upgrading to 7.10 when I allready have 7.10 lol21:17
vlt!ru | valery21:17
ubotuvalery: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke21:17
sub[t]rnlsimon12➜ known bug. sudo killall adept_manager;sudo dpkg --configure -a;sudo apt-get -f install;sudo apt-get update21:17
sub[t]rnlsimon12➜ then try to install the remaining packages for compiz21:17
Lionohow to log all the "screen unlocking events"  for ever. and continuous even resumable after shutdowns ?  log all unlocks for a full month.  (i want to force lock screen. the screen saver has an option but for idle time. i want to force lock. no matter what.)21:17
Lionothe auth.log dont shows successfull unlock events. it only shows unsuccesful ones21:17
Lionousing kubuntu. PAM only logs (in auth.log) the unsuccesful tries. i need the  sucsecfuls ones onlY)21:17
simon12sudo apt-get install compiz-kde compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra21:18
simon12compizconfig-settings-manager emerald librsvg2-common21:18
simon12oops, forget about that paste21:18
simon12here we go: adept_manager: no process killed21:18
MrAgridGood night everybody does someone know why every software i execute next reboot autostart from itself ?21:20
sub[t]rnlMrAgrid➜ system settings -> advanced -> session21:20
vltAny idea how to fix the nspluginviewer crashing since last update problem?21:21
vltCan I revert the update?21:21
sub[t]rnlvlt➜ i'm not sure21:21
ScorpKingMrAgrid: you have save session selected in session management21:21
MrAgridi have Restore previous session selected21:22
MrAgriddo i have to change it21:22
MrAgridto Restore manually saved session or Start with an empty session21:23
sub[t]rnlto whichever you want.21:24
MrAgridi think if i select Start with an empty session compiz, Superkaramba and all the softwares i want them to start will not start ?21:25
ScorpKingMrAgrid: start an empty session will start a new session everytime you log in. if you want apps to start at login link it in .kde/Autostart/21:25
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).21:25
simon12sub[t]rnl: I tries to run compiz install again but got this: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.21:25
MrAgridScopking: ok i get it21:25
snarksterwhat can I use to convert avi to mpg21:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about convert - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:26
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats21:26
MrJoeyYou might be able to use mplayer or ffmpeg21:26
sub[t]rnlsimon12➜ did you do it?21:26
simon12do you mean "sudo killall adept_manager;sudo dpkg --configure -a;sudo apt-get -f install;sudo apt-get update"? if so yes.21:27
sub[t]rnlsimon12➜ i mean, when it said "you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem." did you do it?21:28
MrAgridi have an other question is there a way to make just compiz autostart instead of running kwin and then replace it by compiz21:28
simon12ah.... no...21:28
ScorpKing!autostart | MrAgrid21:28
ubotuMrAgrid: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.21:29
sub[t]rnlMrAgrid➜ echo 'export KDEWM="compiz --replace"' >> .bashrc21:29
simon12ok done, and installation seems to be ok..lets see21:30
sub[t]rnlMrAgrid➜ if you not comfortable with that, use the autostart dir that Scorpking showed you21:30
vltsub[t]rnl: Where to look how to revert the nspluginviewer update?21:30
sub[t]rnl!flash | vlt (check the troubleshooting link)21:30
ubotuvlt (check the troubleshooting link): To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash21:30
MrAgrid<sub[t]rnl> thats what im talking about thank you21:30
MrAgridthank you everybody for the help and good night21:31
ScorpKingMrAgrid: echo "compiz --replace" > .kde/Autostart21:31
MrAgridthank you too <ScorpKing>21:32
ScorpKingyw :D21:32
sub[t]rnlScorpKing➜ (that doesn't work)21:32
ScorpKingsub[t]rnl: ah right21:33
ScorpKingMrAgrid: echo "compiz --replace" > .kde/Autostart/startcompiz.sh21:33
ScorpKingthat's better i hope :)21:33
sub[t]rnlyes sir21:34
ScorpKingthanks sub[t]rnl. hehe21:34
Lionohow can i make all apt, synaptic and adept package managing systems to use 2 proxies simultaneiously  to download packages?21:34
MrAgridok thanks for the help21:34
sub[t]rnlLiono➜ hrm, you can export a proxy in your ~/.bashrc that apt will use21:34
sub[t]rnlLiono➜ export http_proxy=http://yourproxyaddress:proxyport in your ~/.bashrc or edit /etc/apt/apt.conf21:35
sub[t]rnlLiono➜ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto (proxy section at the bottom)21:36
Lionosub[t]rnl ok. but could i run 2 proxies simultaneously?21:38
sub[t]rnldun know21:39
sub[t]rnltcp/udp would have to be sent from the proxy your connecting too, then redirected to another proxy21:40
Lionosub[t]rnl you know my logging problem?21:41
fiendskull9why is kubuntu using a psychotic amount of ram?21:41
sub[t]rnlLiono➜ what are you trying to log again?21:41
Lionohow to log all the "screen unlocking events"  for ever. and continuous even resumable after shutdowns ?  log all unlocks for a full month.  (i want to force lock screen. the screen saver has an option but for idle time. i want to force lock. no matter what.)21:42
sub[t]rnlfiendskull9➜ free -m (pay attention to the buffer/cache line)  Linux buffers and caches as much ram as it can.  Trust me its a feature.21:42
Lionosub[t]rnl ^21:42
Lionothe auth.log dont shows successfull unlock events. it only shows unsuccesful ones21:42
Lionousing kubuntu. PAM only logs (in auth.log) the unsuccesful tries. i need the  sucsecfuls ones onlY)21:42
fiendskull9sub[t]rnl: well my gentoo and slack installs rarely use above 1gb with alot running21:43
snarksterIm trying to find a convert program that some one here suggested.  I think they called it convert it but I cant find that.21:43
sub[t]rnlfiendskull9➜ run free -m and look at the buffer/cache for an idea of how much is "really" being used21:43
fiendskull9ah 1.4gb21:43
sub[t]rnlLiono➜ auth.log should catch any sudo based, if not you can always grep the users ~/.bash_history21:43
fiendskull9so when i need ram itll just throw something out of cache not being used?21:44
vltsub[t]rnl: Thank you. I enabled -backports in sources.list. Now a huge amount of packages are marked as to be updated. How can I avoid this?21:44
sub[t]rnlfiendskull9➜ if you need more ram than is available, linux frees up whats in its buffer, yes21:44
fiendskull9you mean kubuntu :P21:44
simon12I ran "compiz --replace" but then all window decoartions disappeared and I could no longer use my keyboard :\21:45
fiendskull9like i said my gentoo and slack installs dont cache this much21:45
sub[t]rnlfiendskull9➜ thats a shame then :/21:45
fiendskull9didnt affect me that much really :P21:45
sub[t]rnlsimon12➜ make sure you have emerald installed, and do emerald --replace (its the window decorator)21:46
fiendskull9but thank you kind sir sub[t]rnl :)21:46
sub[t]rnlfiendskull9➜ anytime21:46
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion21:46
simon12how do I check if emerald is installed? it shoudl be21:47
simon12(I wasnt able to run emerald -- replace)21:47
NickPrestasimon12, dpkg -l | grep emerald21:47
sub[t]rnlsimon12➜ try to apt-get it again, or run dpkg -L packagename21:47
NickPrestacheck for something that says "ii emerlad"21:47
NickPrestaand then use `dpkg -L emerald` as sub[t]rnl said to see where it is installed and such21:48
simon12ii  emerald                                    0.3~git20070717-0ubuntu1             Decorator for compiz-fusion21:48
simon12ii  libemeraldengine0                          0.3~git20070717-0ubuntu1             Decoration engines for compiz-fusion21:48
NickPrestait is installed.21:48
vltI want to install ONE package from -backports. I enabled it in sources.list. Now a huge amount of packages are marked as to be updated. How can I avoid this?21:49
simon12bah, now I ran "emerald --replace" and then "compiz --replace" and my decoration disappeared again. This time I can still use my keyboard tho. woho!21:50
sub[t]rnlvlt➜ enable the repository, update, then install the one package?21:50
NickPrestavlt, perhaps: sudo apt-get install package=version. sudo apt-get install nautilus=2.2.4-1 for example.21:50
sub[t]rnlsimon12➜ run emerald --replace after compiz --replace, if the decorations are missing21:51
snarksterdoes anyone know how to tell ffmpg to convert avi to mpeg or is there a gui21:51
sub[t]rnlffmpeg -i movie.avi newmovie.mpg21:51
sub[t]rnlthough ffmpeg has a lot more to offer when encoding, check the man pages for more options21:52
surgyanyone know any 2d tile editing programs for devloping tile sets and tile maps for tile based rpg developement?21:55
simon12I cant run emerald --replace after compiz, because as soon as I run compiz --replace my keyboard dies21:57
biovoresurgy: I think the best you could do is use gimp..  Its not plainly obvious that you can do that kind of stuff with it..  So might want  keep it as a last resort kind of thing.21:58
NickPrestasimon12, compiz --replace && emerald --replace21:58
BluesKajsurgy, try the new gimpshop app21:58
sub[t]rnlwonder why emerald isn't loading for him like it should though..21:59
* sub[t]rnl sucks on his teeth21:59
surgyblueskaj googling now, ive never heard of that21:59
prince_jammys!gimpshop | surgy22:00
vltsub[t]rnl: What happens to updates of this package when I disable the repo after installing the package?22:00
ubotusurgy: gimpshop is a hack that makes The Gimp look and feel more like Photoshop.  A .deb for Ubuntu is available via http://plasticbugs.com/?page_id=29422:00
biovoreit dosn't get updated anymore..22:01
sub[t]rnlvlt➜ ^^22:01
prince_jammyssurgy i think there's a package that does exactly what you want but i don't remember what it's called ....22:01
surgyBluesKaj: i dont think acting like photo shop will work for me22:01
Arwenrather than use a UI hack on GIMP... why not use real Photoshop22:01
NickPrestaArwen, because Photoshop costs several hundred dollars22:01
Arwenon an entirely other note, is there a good KDE image editor?22:01
NickPrestaArwen, Krita is decent.22:02
prince_jammysArwen: krita22:02
ArwenNickPresta, and a UI hack feels just as cheap as it is22:02
vltSo what is the reccommended way to define which packages from -backport to use and which not?22:02
Arwenvlt, in /etc/apt/preferences with pins22:02
vltArwen: Thank you, I'll check this ...22:02
NickPrestavlt, http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html for a quick overview. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html22:03
simon12hmmm, in the emerald settings, there's a list of themes. Ive chosen one of them, now how the heck do I apply it? the only button around is Quit.22:06
NickPrestasimon12, you should just click on it. The changes should happen on the fly22:07
simon12in the list it says it uses the engine Oxygen, maybe I have to install that?22:08
ahmoshi there is a hidden folder ,how i can make it un hidden plz?22:08
vltNickPresta: Thank you. What do I use instead of "stable", "unstable" and "testing" from your example on Kubuntu?22:08
vltahmos: Hidden files begin with a ".", so rename it.22:09
simon12hmmm, I just ran "compiz --replace && emerald --replace" and my decoration disappeared again.22:10
ahmosyes ,thank you vlt22:10
simon12I think I will be able to use my keyboard as long as I keep the curson in this text field lol22:10
NickPrestavlt, check out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports#head-3b5c1549058b0cbabeccab98556844dac6c0f93b  There is info for pinning and installing single packages. So `sudo apt-get install -t gutsy-backports amarok` for example.22:10
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vltNickPresta: Aah, ok, there's a default value of 500, so I only need to set -backports lower. Thank you.22:13
illriginalcan anyone recommend a good flash producing program? One similar to Adobe Flash?22:17
simon12ffs. I ran "sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24" and then "compiz --replace && emerald --replace" but I still loose the decor and keyboard22:18
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simon12when I ran "compiz" in the console it said I was missing xgl or something like that. WHats that?22:29
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion22:29
K`zanHi Folks, just set up a NFS export off the server for my roomie here.  Her UID/GID on the server is different from the one on her machine, how can I map that.  tried setting the anonuid and anongid to her account on the server, should that be her account on here machines uid and gid?22:31
conornCan anybody help me with startup programs please? Is there a GUI option in Kubuntu (7.10)? I've tried command line, to no avail :922:34
NickPrestaconorn,  To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local22:36
BluesKajconorn, or you can also, alt+F2 , kdesu konqueror /usr/share/autostart , then add the app you'd like to autostart by dragging it into the file page22:37
BluesKajand saving22:37
conornok, thank you both22:37
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BluesKajNickPresta, i like your tip about "bum"22:44
ecuehey everyone22:44
BluesKaj!hi ecue22:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hi ecue - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:44
ecueNeed help. So many problems!!!22:44
ecuei have a ati radeon 9800 card. Running kubuntu 7.10 gutsy. I'm trying to get my dual monitor to start working22:45
ecuecan anyone help?22:45
BluesKaj!dual heads22:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dual heads - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:46
ubotuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead22:46
ubotuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama22:47
_Angelus_somebody knows a linux application that can convert videos to 3gp format?22:49
Daisuke_Laptop!find 3gp22:49
ubotuPackage/file 3gp does not exist in gutsy22:50
Arwen_Angelus_, 3GP = castrated MP422:50
Arwen!find MP4Box22:50
ubotuPackage/file mp4box does not exist in gutsy22:51
ConstyXIVdoes gutsy have the WebKit konqueror?22:51
_Angelus_Arwen: wrong , there are 2 types of 3GP :)22:51
Daisuke_Laptopthe kind that sucks and the kind that really really sucks?22:51
_Angelus_Arwen: there is the h263 and the mpeg4 types of 3gp22:52
Arwen_Angelus_, I'm assuming you don't mean "Nokia 7650 Video Recorder Video File"?22:52
Arwenotherwise there's only one kind of 3gp22:52
shumanhi there everyone :)22:52
Arweneither way, you just need a video encoder and mp4box from gpac22:53
_Angelus_Arwen: there are those 2 i named , and i need the h263 format of 3gp file22:53
Arwenum... again, 3gp is just a container. It only has one format.22:53
Arwenyou need mp4box and a video encoder22:53
Arwenperhaps MEncoder or ffmpeg22:53
simon12hmmmm I think something is wrong with my emerald. nothing happens when I run emerlad from the console. and when I select a theme in the emerald manager nothing happens. Not to mention that my decoration totaly disappears when I run compiz. Anyone?22:53
Daisuke_Laptopsimon12: emerald --replace22:54
shumancan anyone please tell me how are multimedia keys mapped in kubuntu? I'm curious how it's done...22:54
Daisuke_Laptopand if that doesn't work, #compiz-fusion would probably work better22:54
ConstyXIVi know konqueror has a adblock-like, but does it have anything like noscript?22:55
Enissayi cant access to my exernal hard disk.... but i can access as root... and when i try to copy a file from there it says that the file doesn't exist!!!!! any help...22:56
conornDo I have to get Mplayer do stream Divx?22:56
conornDo I have to get Mplayer *to stream Divx?22:56
Arwenconorn, in order to do what? And MPlayer can't stream anything.22:56
conornStream Divx from eg. Stage622:56
Arwenum... playing streams is not referred to as "streaming"22:57
Arwenfor future reference22:57
Arwenand no you don't, you just need a player that can handle AVI with XviD and MP322:57
Daisuke_Laptoppreferred: vlc22:57
conornyes, like VLC player22:57
Arwenpreferred: mplayer22:57
* Arwen hates VLC. Especially on Kubuntu.22:57
conornsorry, I'll elaborate a bit22:57
shumanso nobody knows how it works?22:58
ArwenVLC doesn't randomly crash when using the open dialog for anyone else?22:58
conornI need to "play a stream" on  web page (stage6) using VLC, preferably.23:00
Arwenum... open -> stream -> enter URL23:00
ecuecan someone point me in the dual head monitor set up site again23:00
sourcemakerIs it possible to synchronize kcalender with lotus notes?23:01
conornyes, ok, but imbedded in a web page....ir. VLc plugin?23:01
conornyes, ok, but imbedded in a web page....ie. VLC plugin?23:01
sourcemakerAnd can I synchronize my blackberry with linux??23:01
NickPrestaecue, Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama23:02
Arwenconorn, why would you ever want video inside a browser? And no, that doesn't work with anything at all last I checked.23:04
Arwenand last I checked, VLC plugin doesn't do anything right23:04
conornArwen, because it worked no problems in Ubuntu with Mplayer, and I've just switched to Kubuntu and am just curious.23:05
conornIt's things like these are important IMO, aimple thinga you qould expect to just......WORK!23:07
conornBTw...I'm only a bit drunk23:07
Arwenwell, actually, my opinion is that no browser should ever do anything besides show web pages23:07
conornwell, you are obviously a good spokesperson for the integration of Linux into society......23:09
Arwenplease, the very core UNIX philosophy is "one tool to do one job"23:10
persen_hello, i've tracked my insane large font sizes when upgrading from feisty to gutsy to this bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/15131123:10
persen_Where can i find info if a patch is made and howto install it?23:10
conornc'mon, get with the times, stop being so idealistic23:10
Arwenum... no?23:11
Arwenanyway, if mplayer-plugin does it for you, go use it23:11
ecuethank you23:13
ecuei've tried a million ways23:13
ecuenothing's working for me23:13
conornlet's all have one thing do a certain task, because it works, and not try to solve problems by sticking to what you know to be safe23:13
ecuestill nothing23:20
ecuei think i'm as dumb as a child23:20
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shaffyi hope someone can help me with my problem.  does anyone know of a way to reinstall the network/connection manager without have your linux box connected to the internet?  can i just download the necessary packages to a flash drive and install them from there?23:28
sfireyep... you can download the packages and all dependancies23:29
sfirejust tell it to install it and see what it is going to want... then go download them23:29
Arwenshaffy, yes. Just make sure you download all of them.23:29
shaffysfire and arwen:  is there anyway to connect my box to the net without a manager?23:31
shaffywill that work for wireless, too?23:31
Arwenprobably not23:31
shaffyokay, so i'll just plug it in,23:32
shaffyand is there any special commands for ifconfig?23:32
Arwen<ifconfig up/down interface> :-P23:32
Arwenprobably "ifconfig up eth0"23:32
sfireshaffy: wireless is iwconfig23:33
shaffyokay, so with ifconfig, if i plug in my ethernet cable, and input "ifconfig up eth0" it should allow me to use the net?23:34
sfire95% of the time yes23:34
shaffyhehe okay.23:34
sfireunless the router doesn't have DHCP or something23:35
shaffythanks hehe.  i'll try it.  brb23:35
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persen_What distro might be better for desktop that kubuntu ? Kubuntu just have this insanely large list of bugs and quirks that im willing to try something else.23:38
shaffiesfire and Arwen:  the only "connection" i'm getting is "lo"  no "eth0" exists23:38
shaffiedoes it need to be plugged in at bootup perhaps?23:38
Arwenhmm, I dunno, never tried these things23:39
nosrednaekimshaffie » you may have to say "ifconfig eth0 up"23:40
Arwenhmm, I knew I was doing something wrong23:40
shaffienosrednaekim:  the problem is, when i just type ifconfig, it only lists "lo"     eth0 is not even present23:40
Arwenthat's because it's not up23:41
nosrednaekimshaffie » right... because its not up.23:41
shaffieokay, well i will try that right now then23:41
ubuntu_I have error line 15, can anyone help me?23:43
ubuntu_occurs on bootup with dual boot, xp/kubuntu23:44
ubuntu_seems to be problem with grub23:44
sub[t]rnlubuntu_➜ you'll need to fix your boot/grub/menu.lst to point to the right partition23:44
ubuntu_how can I do that?23:45
ubuntu_without reloading23:45
sub[t]rnlanyone remember the edit key on the grub loader?23:45
sub[t]rnlis it "e"?23:45
ubuntu_I'm running live cd disk right now23:45
sub[t]rnlubuntu_➜ run sudo fdisk -l23:45
sub[t]rnland show me which partition / is located23:46
shaffienosrednaekim and Arwen:  okay, good news is that "ifconfig eth0 up" worked.  bad news is, the internet still doesn't work.  any ideas?23:46
Arwen*shrug*, can you ping your router?23:46
shaffieArwen:  how do i do that?23:47
ubuntu_linux partition loaded on sda223:47
Arwenping [IP address]23:47
sub[t]rnlubuntu_➜ k, the grub equivalent would be (hd0,3).  So when the grub screen comes up, hit "e" and enter that23:47
shaffieit says the network is unreachable23:47
nosrednaekimshaffie » now that its up, run "sudo dhclient eth0"23:47
Arwenhmm, what does "ifconfig" print?23:47
Arwenor... never mind23:48
BluesKajubuntu_, yes , you may have to put a # (or comment) the line Hiddenmenu in the boot/grub/menu.lst23:48
shaffiei could tell you arwen, it'll just take me some time to print it out23:48
ubuntu_what does e do?23:48
Dr_willise  = edit23:49
ubuntu_is there anything I can do while running live cd?23:49
Arwenubuntu_, you can run the apps on the CD23:50
ubuntu_how do you run it on live cd23:50
Stofferis there any way I can make kwallet save my password and not ask for it every time I log on?23:50
Arwenthat's not KWallet's job23:50
nosrednaekimubuntu_ » you can chroot in....23:50
Arwenyou want X11 autologin, somewhere under the users control panel23:51
ArwenStoffer, ^^23:51
StofferArwen, what if I disable kwallet, because only the network manager uses it23:51
shaffiecan anyone help me to connect my linux box to the internet via ethernet cable and ifconfig?  (i do not have a network manager installed and i can't install one w/o the internet)23:51
ArwenStoffer, won't affect anything (other than network manager)23:51
nosrednaekimshaffie » did you try running dhclient?23:51
ubuntu_can I use qpart, delete partition and reload kubuntu23:51
StofferArwen, will the network manager save the password itself?23:51
Dr_williswith a wired connection, you should jjust be able to plug it in. and when ya boot up - it defsults to dhcp23:51
ArwenStoffer, yeah, just not encrypted23:52
nosrednaekimubuntu_ » thats not the best way....23:52
ubuntu_I would like to reload fresh install23:52
nosrednaekim!grub | ubuntu_23:52
ubotuubuntu_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto23:52
Stofferok, question 2:  is there an irc app that automatically connects to a preset server and channel, and identifies your nick with nickserv?  I can't seem to get xchat to do that23:53
Dr_willisStoffer,  xchat can do that.23:53
BluesKajubuntu_, an alternative is the super grub disk , a very handy boot disk for repairing grub and mbr23:53
Stofferok well then I"m just stupid then, lemme look again23:54
Dr_willisedit the server listing, click the auto connect checkbox. enter the channels to join, enter nickserv password23:54
Stofferok lets try it23:55
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StofferDr_willis, thanks23:56
StofferI've been wanting to do that for years, lol23:56
BluesKajBBL, tv with wifey23:57
Dr_willisStoffer,  its been in there for ages. :)23:58
Stofferyeah, I guess I never thought to hit the "edit" button23:59

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